Crime in Sports - #338 - One Tough Broad - Evelyn Stevens

Episode Date: January 17, 2023

This week, we look into a very different corner of the world, ladies wrestling! The old school women wrestlers were a tough lot. They could perform in the ring, then go clear out a West Texas bar with their fists! This particular woman was one of the very few to claim a legit win over the Fabulous Moolah! She was also married to a famous wrestler, and dated another, before ending up married to gym owner/bodybuilding trainer, and going down a rocky road. Neighbors watched them fighting, in the snow, and heard them fighting, in the house. This all leads to crazy showdown, that is reminiscent of another CIS subject, Sally McNeil!Marry a wrestler, who will NEVER let another man call you a "whore", win the world title from the Fabulous Moolah, and make sure to lave a note, admitting to your crime with Evelyn Stevens!!Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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i don't think we have. This is a first here. And there's a couple more to come. There's, of course, there's a Mexican woman who's a serial killer in the end, it turns out to be. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We've certainly started this. We've heard about her for years. Yeah, so eventually, yeah, we'll cover that one.

But we haven't because other people have, and it's just like, I don't know, get into other shit. into other shit so uh and then there's another one that i didn't know about who turned out to have killed who turned out to be like in a gang and ended up like being like the leader of some gang who murdered many people and i was like holy shit she was a wrestler for years for the right amount of money sally would have wrestled you sally would wrestle anybody for the right amount of money that's true sally mcneil did do like weird apartment photo wrestling which a lot of the girls did back in the 50s and 60s. So that's her 70s. So that's normal. It's a little different wrestling. And it's kind of there's a element of sex involved there.

But usually when the when the two women work in the ring, usually at the end, neither of them come. And that's the difference, I think, with the other one. What Sally was doing. Nobody's clit is stomped with high heels. Yeah. What Sally would do is she would squeeze your head between her thighs until your jizz popped out. That's how that would work.

She did a different type of wrestling. This is an actual worker. She did all the circuits here. Her name is Evelyn. Well, she went by Evelyn Stevens. That's her wrestling name. She did all the circuits here. Her name is Evelyn. Well, she went by Evelyn Stevens. That's her wrestling name. That's not a good name. Evelyn Stevens. Well, she started in 1961, so a different time.

Oh, okay, where you went by your name. Yeah, that's not her real name, but that's her name. I don't actually know what her birth name is. It's really hard to find because she ends up going by in all of her legal documents she goes by her two married names she goes she hyphenates both of like her ex-husband and her new husband's married what so that's yeah that's how that works that's crazy i've never heard of that before that's that's the crazy shit have you ever heard of that before no okay i've heard of women and this i like a lot of women do this just in terms of it's

easier to not change your name back to your maiden name they'll a lot of women for a long time will keep their their husband's names if they had their married name if they had a married name yeah they'll just keep that because it's easier than have going through the whole process of the paperwork until they get married again then they'll then they'll change it right then they'll change it to that or their maiden name or whatever the fuck they want. But usually they don't just tack the new name onto the ex-husband's name. She's just making a collection of names. Like if she's married three, four more times, this could go on indefinitely.

Right. That's like a serial killer keeping the earrings. That's bizarre. That's what that is. Or making their name all of their names afterwards. You know? Hi, I'm Ted Bob Bill fucking. All their names.

Dennis Rader Otero Fox. Yeah, just go all of those things. Nice to meet you. Drop the Rader, though. Just take all of their names. Like you married them all. Dennis Otero Fox. Fuck, if you who dropped the raider though just take all of their names like you married them all dennis otero fogs fuck if you go through the whole list yeah that would be ridiculous wouldn't it dommer would have been forget about it too long that would have been crazy john wayne gacy how

many names can you have so So this is what I mean. We haven't even got to anything about her life. We're talking about her name. And already we're like, what is going on in this fucking story? Why would you do that? Nobody told her that's not how it's done. I don't know why you had to go somewhere to have that other name put on. Right. Yet not take the just no have that other name put on. Right.

Yet not take the, just no joke, just tack it on. No, keep that name. Yeah, I like, I'm going to keep that. My sister, her last, she kept her ex-husband's last name. It's just because she hasn't changed it back yet. Yeah, yeah. But I imagine if she got married again, she'd take that. She wouldn't do it.

Right? It's so funny. She wouldn't just it. Right? It's so funny. She wouldn't just add another name, right? That's crazy. It's so funny. I could see more keeping the name that she has now and just not changing it to the new name more than adding the fucking name onto it. That's the weirdest thing I've ever heard in my life. That's not giving up on it, right?

That's hoping that it comes back. But you're married. It's wild. You've moved on.'s hoping that it comes back but you're married it's wild so you've moved on that's really and that's and it's her legal fucking name in the court document so it's definitely how she did it um evelyn jardine regal r-i-e-g-l-e oh that's why because that's cool shit evelyn jardine rigel now jardine is because she's married to a wrestler that's his last name she was married to another wrestler uh don jardine and uh so would you say keith yeah i was just guessing keith keith keith jardine sounds like a country singer doesn't it you hear keith dar

jardine's newest album yeah it's pretty good uh yeah he was caught out in public saying the n-word but you know you can't say nothing about that keith jardine music boy i'll tell you what but now his albums are selling hotter than ever it's hard yeah it's crazy so evelyn jardine regal goes by evelyn stevens we do know she's born in 1944 we have that or 43 either one it depends that's what we know names dates yeah names dates it's all pretty relative in wrestling you know what i mean amazing she is a fucking she's a party already oh she's a party. This she is. Let's just say these ladies back then to describe wrestling. They were tough broads. That's the best way to put it.

That's the way they describe themselves. Tough. Fuck. These are the type of women that three of these ladies and they weren't they weren't like nowadays. There's different types of lady wrestlers. You have your like college athlete types that are like just like stacked and and you could tell their college they're athletes they've been doing athletic shit their whole life you have those you have kind of the the of the last 20 years like the

diva class who have like you know lip fillers and fake tits and all that kind of shit and they're you know what i mean they're like uh they what I mean? They're like action Barbie dolls. You know what I'm saying? I mean, they do. And some of the girls can work. I'm not saying that. But I mean, the look of them is- Oh, yeah, I'm not taking anything away from their athleticism.

That's what they're trying to, that's what the company's trying to put out. And they encourage these girls to look that way. And then you have your bigger girls and your strength girls and your, you know, like that. And they're amazing workers and they're tough. They are. They're all really tough like that. It's a, and they're, they're amazing workers and they're, they're tough. They are. They're all really tough and you wouldn't want to, I mean,

they'll kick our asses. Don't get me wrong. Some 220 pound chicken wrestling would fuck us up. I'm not saying they wouldn't. We're not saying that at all. But these ladies were like three of these ladies could go into a West Texas bar and clear that motherfucker out physically. Like that type of tough like right break a beer bottle on a fucking bar top and stab somebody tough

you can see them on harley but you'll never see them on the back of one no those kind of chicks these chicks were no fucking joke they're like they're all seriously tough they'll kick a man's ass i mean there's no doubt about it a lot of these ladies who were married to wrestlers, there's a lot of stories like, that dude wasn't afraid of anybody but his fucking wife. His wife was terrifying. She'd kick your ass. And like, no, like seriously, she would beat it. Like Ray Stevens, they always said that.

His wife would kick his ass. She was a wrestler. The Barbarian, they said his wife. Barbarian, remember him? Remember Warlord and Barbarian? Were they the ones that were in Stay Tuned? I don't remember. Barbarian was in WCW, too, like in the Monday Nitro days.

He was teamed with Meng. It was Meng and Barbarian. I remember the name. He's a huge, terrifying man who's known as a very tough Samoan dude. And they said his wife would beat his fucking ass on a regular basis. That's how tough she was with him, with him fighting back. Like she was just a bad bitch and nobody would fuck with her.

And like, so that's the type of women we're talking about here. And they're not big women back then either. These aren't big giant ladies. These are, you know, five foot five, five foot six,

140, 150 pounds and could fuck you up. Like ladies from glow yeah yeah except tough they're not they're not they're really tough they're you know they got a six-pack alone star in their fucking purse that's what they have they're not messing around for the car ride home god i loved that i loved glow so much oh i did too when i was little all the time me too i watched any wrestling when i couldn't remember any of their names but i was just fascinated by maybe it's terrible wrestling it's bad wrestling yeah but yeah it was tough of course it was it was tough some of them were hot they were like yeah you know they're they were wrestling

i don't know yeah there's that's a Yeah. Some of them were stretching the word gorgeous ladies of wrestling. Yeah. I mean, you know, it's wrestling. So you take that. Very, very gratuitous word there. But all right. Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm not going to judge.

There's certainly a lady. All right. Some of them. Yeah. Have you seen like the there's documentaries on GLOW. It's interesting. Is there? Yeah.

Oh, you should watch them. Oh, I'm going to watch them. There's documentaries. And the series was actually pretty good. The GLOW didn't watch the series it's good i did see it was on netflix or hula or whatever netflix i think it's really this is the first season is really good the second season it's it's not really about wrestling anymore it's it's about it's more thing no well the first season is like they're making the company and it's it's loosely based on glow and that sort of shit and it's it's they're making

the company it's very interesting and then the second season it's just like an a workplace drama like sort of where they're just like cat fighting it's not going into gray's anatomy of wrestling yeah then it's they still have like jokes in it and stuff but it's just not as good the second season at all i just want all documentaries i don't want to stop remaking things yeah yeah i don't want to know based on just give me the right just give me the documentary documentary or make up a new story yeah i don't mind yeah everything doesn't have to be a true story that i've already heard but no cousin you know how it is these companies won't make won't take any chances you know that how it is i mean just based on us we know how in this industry it's it's they're interested in you

for what following you have because it's not about it's not about making a following because that's that's a risk of money why would you do that so then they wonder why they want the guarantee and they want the awards yeah what you don't get that they wonder why the tv and film industry is falling apart right i haven't had an original idea in 20 fucking years but why is it falling apart we made iron man 7 i don't understand what the problem is what's the problem then diesel's still alive we're making furious 19 yeah we're making aquaman 12 i don't know what the problem is i can't i don't get why everything's not lining right up for us if we did sound bites i would have put in Aquaman. Right there. Aquaman. That would have been amazing.

Aquaman. If we were a morning, like, zoo radio show. See, morning zoo. That's where Johnny Depp's drop goes. That would be played constantly, though. Aquaman. We'd play that all the time. Because that cracked us both up more than anything.

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So she's born in Tampa. Born in Tampa, but raised in Nashville, Tennessee. Jesus. Yeah, and Tampa, obviously, in the 40s is a way different time than Tampa then. And we don't know in the 40s her father might have been stationed in Tampa. I mean, that's during the war, military times, who the fuck knows. And it may not have been that in tampa the i mean that's a during the war military times who the fuck knows and it may not have been that far off from what it is today oh i'm sure it was a what was it whores and thieves and pirates then too all right well then it's the same probably

in the 40s fuck yeah same thing uh but she's raised in nashville nashville obviously tennessee especially the memphis area steeped in wrestling always. The South has always been a wrestling hotbed. And Tennessee is an area where you could drive to wrestling in several different territories there. So Tennessee is really like that. They love their wrestling. Memphis was the last territory to die. Yeah, it stayed alive longer than anybody else.

Memphis has always had its own thing going on um she in high school and everything played basketball and was a cheerleader is that right yes she's by the way 60s yeah she's hot by the way that's the thing yeah back then there was kind of uh kind of uh you know uh not as attractive broads that were the bad guys. And then there was hot broads who were the, and I use broads because they always call themselves broads back then. Yeah, they were the baby faces. So she was a cheerleader. She played, like I said, basketball.

She got into wrestling in 61, and she's 5'4", 5'5", 110 pounds. She's little. Holy shit. Yeah, she's very little when she gets into this. She's a little blonde waif thing, but she's very cute. So she'd say in interviews, and we don't know, because wrestlers were never. Who knows? Everything was kayfabe back then.

It was all bullshit. It was all a big smokescreen screen so nobody ever said who they actually were or where they were actually from or any of that shit so she claimed that she started liking wrestling from quote roughhousing with her brother so you know wrestling around with her brother made her tough and maybe she was like a you know kind of what they call a tomboy back then where she liked to you know play rough and tumble, quote unquote, boy shit out in the yard. And it's probably at least partially true because brothers and sisters constantly fight. Yeah, and if there's a brother and a sister, especially if he's older,

he'll be like, you're playing football because we don't have enough people. So you're the wide receiver now. You know, it's just how it would be. Yeah. She said, they told me I was too light, so I took the falls, body slams, and punishment. Then I came back for more, and now I'm doing well. So that's her original deal. She originally got into the game with Moolah, as everybody did back then in the early 60s.

From the mid-50s on, you had two choices if you were a woman to get into wrestling. Only two choices if you were a woman to get into wrestling only two choices you either went through moolah's camp was one or you married a wrestler and then he brought you in as his valet manager and then you worked your way in like that which a lot of women got in that way too a lot of big stars got in that way that's your elizabeth's your precious your baby dolls your all of those people and then you have your and that's how Moolah, I think, originally got in when she was married to a guy back in the 30s or some shit in the 40s. So or you could go through Moolah's camp and she went through Moolah's camp, which if you're a lady wrestler, that was the way to go. Except she was one of the ones. There wasn't a lot of them who broke away from mula's camp and told mula to

go fuck herself and still had a career afterwards so most of the time if you did that basically mula would have you blackballed kind of a thing that was the big rumor all for then because otherwise if you left she wanted a cut of your money forever right that was how it worked um but she evelyn became such a like a you know a name that she couldn't really do that to her. People still wanted to book her. You just couldn't. She was good, and she was known. So if you can draw.

Do you think Moolah chose that name because it is also a slang term for money? No, that is why. Is she just doing it right in front of people's faces? No, she said when she was a wrestler, one of the promoters said that you're the moolah that's what she said he said you're the money that's he said you're the moolah kid you're the money because she could she could make the money so she called herself the fabulous moolah after that she was saying amazing and she always came out like saying like look at me i'm the champion i'm fucking rich i'm everything that was her whole thing like i'm the best look at me she's'm the champion. I'm fucking rich. I'm everything. That was her whole thing. Like, I'm the best.

Look at me. She's the Bernie made off of wrestling. Absolutely. Just flaunting it right in your fucking face. Right. I'm literally calling myself what I'm doing. He might as well call himself Bernie Ponzi. Like that would have been Ponzi made up.

Maybe if he married someone, he could have just tacked it on made off ponzi perfect bernice ponzi bernice ponzi made off fucking stevens jardine regal just add them all up all up oh christ so she was and part of her part of her appeal evelyn was that she was hot yeah she was hotter than most of the other ladies she just was i mean there's a i'll show you a picture here oh boy of her getting off is this is this my how do i have it on here now oh i i don't have it on here i will put it in the social media, though. But it's her getting off of a plane, and she's in, like, 1963, and she's, like, I mean, she looks like she's a playmate getting off this fucking airplane. Like, it's ridiculous.

She's blonde, and she's, like, stacked, and she's got, like, muscular legs, and she's fucking hot. I mean, there's no. She looks like the flight attendant eye candy. Exactly. She's fucking hot. I mean, there's no. She looks like the flight attendant eye candy. Exactly.

Like the one that they would put on like, you know, on a commercial for, hey, this. She'll be serving you and maybe getting you in a headlock. She might squeeze your head until you come. You never know. One way or another, your head's involved. Yeah, no shit. So she ended up actually being a heel a lot of the times because she was pretty, and she played it off that way as far as like, you're a bunch of losers and I'm pretty. A little bait and switch, yeah.

Type of thing, which works also. It's like the handsome wrestler who's like, you people, I'll take all your women are drooling over me, the ravishing Rick Ruge, you know, Hernandez model. Roman Reigns was that way until now he's a good guy, right? I don't know shit about Roman Reigns. I can't tolerate wrestling. I think he was a bad guy and now everybody roots for him. I don't know. I'm out for the last 15 years. I tried.

I can't watch a bunch of guys with groomed beards and carefully planned tattoos and waxed eyebrows. I can't do it, dude. I can't. I can't do it. Show me a guy with a pizza slice on his forearm. That's the guy I want to win. Show me a guy who looks like he would kick the shit out of half a bar. That's who I want to see in the ring because that's, I want to see him fight another guy

who looks like he can kick the shit out of half a bar and you put those together. Or a guy who's a pussy, who you think is a pussy and acts like he's tough, and then you want the tough guy to beat him up. That's wrestling. I don't want to see two of these groomed motherfuckers in there. I can't see it anymore. I can't do it. Who's great sweating?

I can't do it, dude. I can't do it. It's like they're so ridiculous. I want outcasts. I don't want these fucking people. I want weirdos and outcasts and people who had nowhere else to go. That's who I want outcasts. I don't want these fucking people. I want weirdos and outcasts and people who had nowhere else to go. And like, that's who I want. The Rock was popular in high school.

I don't want this. Yeah. And he was great at it. Don't get me wrong. He was, yeah. But he's, you know, he's fucking third generation. So what do you expect? Of course he's going to be great at it.

He had it in his blood. You know what I mean? But people like that who aren't like that, I don't want that. Stone Cold was a great wrestler because he washed out of football and had nowhere else to go. That's what he did. blood you know what i mean but people like that who aren't like that i don't want that stone cold was a great wrestler because he washed out of football and had nowhere else to go that's what he did literally it's ugly yeah washed out of football knee fucked up where am i going okay i got stringy thinning blonde hair you know i'm pretty tough i'm a pretty big guy and he got into that that's drank beer every night that's what i want to see out there i want to see these

fucking people goldbergberg, too. A lot of these guys were washed out football players or they were wrestlers from the beginning or whatever it was. But that's that's what I want to see. Just I want to see freaks. I don't want to see these fucking people out there. I saw Jim Duggan. I don't. Yeah. Cross die.

Spit on his fucking beard. Show me that. I get that the guys now are working at a different level and they're working at a higher level. I understand that. But I also don't want to see that either. I don't want to see fucking choreographed acrobatics. I want to see at least give me the I don't know. See a guy that drinks Pennzoil.

Yeah. Drink Pennzoil. That's fine. Roddy Piper did a fucking promo where he smashed a bottle of beer on his head. I want to see that glass fucking bottle. Show me that. Look how bottle of beer on his head. I want to see that. A glass fucking bottle. Show me that. Look how crazy I am. That's what I want to see.

Let me be well-spoken for a moment here. These writers wrote me these wonderful lines last night. Let me show you in a polished way how I can deliver them. I just got my facial hair done perfectly. Do you see the lines here? That's nice. My eyebrows are waxed. I know you That's nice. My eyebrows are waxed. I know you'll enjoy that.

My beard is waxed. I spent an hour at the hairdresser today, and they said my roots are looking wonderful. I don't want to fucking see that. I want a guy who fucking bleaches his hair in a shitty motel sink after the fucking matches. That's what I want. Got some on his shoulder hair. it's more fun i don't care well either way so that's what she does she ends up competing all over the place and she starts i found her first match that i can find is in may of 1961 jesus where she appears to be in a mixed tag

with uh midget wrestlers awesome yes and that makes a lot of sense because and i'm gonna say midget wrestlers because they call themselves midget wrestlers and that's what they prefer to be called so i'm not gonna you know if it makes you uncomfortable sorry sorry about argue with them they'll kick your ass they're tough they're tough son of a bitches i love it when it's one guy fighting two sometimes three four of them it's amazing three foot eight a muscle man that's all those motherfuckers are so they uh the the girls and the midgets had their own they kind of traveled in the same circuit because they didn't stay one place like normally a guy will come in and he will be in a territory for six months to a year yeah work a couple of programs and depending on how successful he is and then he'll go to the next territory.

The girls and the midgets didn't do that. They'd come in for a month to each territory because they were just a special attraction. That's all they were. So they'd go around their circuit for two weeks or a month and then they would move on to the next territory. Now there was 40 territories back then so you could do that all year and everybody had work but they had their own little stable where they would do

their own matches and they had their own shit worked out because they were always together going to different territories. So they did a best her first match I can find is a best two out of three falls. Her and Lord Littlebrook, who is still wrestling in the fucking 80s, man. Wow.

I want to say I think Lord Littlebrook is in the goddamn WrestleMania 3 King Kong Bundy with two midgets versus Hillbilly Jim and two midgets. I want to say he's in that match. That's an awesome match that's it's that's cool you'll love the ending because it ends in a disqualification when king kong bundy just attacks the other midgets the rules are big guys fight big guys little guys fight little guys and bundy just loses it starts tossing little dudes all over the fucking ring this is fucking 450 pound monster throwing what looks like people the size of fourth graders all over the ring.

It's awesome. It's a terrible match. It's cheesy as shit. But the ending is like, now this is wrestling right here. A big, fat, bald guy with his eyebrows shaved off just like, I will crush a midget under my fucking boots. This is circus-cali caliber entertainment i'm in this is

good stuff right here this is terrible like gulliver's travels if gulliver just absolutely throwing them as they're tying them down all over the place so her and lord littlebrook beat bull brummel and peggy king i've heard of peggy king too another female wrestler there for about 20 years there there was a stable of female wrestlers and they were the wrestlers that they were they were good you didn't break in there was a you know a lot of these ladies like evelyn stevens and your donna christianellos and all those they had like a i don't like this at all they sound like tennis players i want yeah i need to know what they are like the divas they have goofy fucking names and you know what they are like this is there's just regular they all have regular names they all have regular

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New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. OK, so, um. Not this is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her?

Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that?

I have a crystal ball in my head. It's an all-new season. It's streaming. You can say anything. Judy Justice, only on Freebie. So that's for, she's starting in Central States Wrestling, which is Missouri, and I believe that's the one that's Bob Geigel at the time, who's known as the cheapest son of a bitch in the history of the world of wrestling which says something for wrestling that he's the cheapest guy ever in a wrestling territory um next up she's up the next month I see her again this is in Omaha her first match was in St. Joseph Missouri her second one is in Omaha and it's a mixed tag match

again I don't oh it's got to be yeah it's midgets again because I see tiny row in there uh it's Evelyn Stevens and Cowboy Bradley versus Millie Stafford and tiny row and uh tiny row Cowboy's a midget uh I suppose no the Cowboy's it has to be yeah he's got to be big Big hat, little guy. Little guy, big hat. That's all hat, no body. That's all, yeah. Yeah, he's a badass. But her first singles match I see is in June.

It's like 10 days after that last one with, again, Central States. It's in St. Joseph, Missouri, and she beats Jessica Rogers. Sounds like two reporters are fighting. Evelyn Stevens and Jessica Rogers. Whoever wins gets the story. Go. Battle it out to call the weather. Battle it out.

They come in black and white skirt suits that those lady reporters would wear back then, and you watch them fight in black and white. Never heard the word barometer said so much. Oh, man. So later on that month, so she's in the circuit at that point. Best two out of three falls. She's teaming with Cowboy Bradley again. They must have made quite the team.

Versus Tiny Rowe and Kathy Starr that time. So then she's in tag team matches. Her and Peggy King, who she was against in her first match, now she's tagging with her. A mere month later, she's tagging with her, Jimmy. Think about that. My God. The reconciliation that must have occurred. They must have shown her mutual respect for each other, Jimmy. That's trying to find a storyline here.

I really like the way you beat up that midget. Me too. I like what you did with mine. That was pretty good. Kicked him right in the face. Good job. Me too. I like what you did with mine.

That was pretty good. Kicked him right in the face. Good job. So they lose to Millie Stafford and Dot Dotson. Dot Dotson. Dot Dotson. Yeah, they didn't really do much with these names here. Then the next night, or like a week later, now Evelyn is tagging with Millie Stafford.

Oh. I don't know what happened. And she's beating up Dot Dotson and Jessica Rogers, who they defeat. So I don't know what kind of change of heart goes on here. I think Evelyn has shifting loyalties. That's what I'm going to say. I'm going to come right out and say it. I don't think you can trust her. No.

I don't think you can trust her. It's like she's just, every person she meets, she loves them. She loves them, and she's going to tag with them, and the next thing you know, she's just she's every person she meets she loves them she loves them and that's she's going to tag with them and the next thing you know she's going to be beating their asses so uh uh she the one that match though that was at the keel auditorium in st louis which was a big deal that was a nwa's it's kind of their at the time their crown jewel was the st louis territory and to fight at the keel was a kind of a big deal for her so in her first year in the business she right away she's fighting there that had sam much much nick as the guy who ran it who's like known as the most respected guy in the nwa for 40 years or so so uh she was there next up she uh she has a title match here wow this is at the civic

auditorium in honolulu, Hawaii. Get out. So this is why people wanted to be wrestlers, too, back then. For the vacation. You're seeing, you're going places. If you're some chick in Nashville and you don't have a future, your family can't afford to send you to college or secretarial school or whatever the fuck back then, and you didn't marry some football player whose father owns an insurance company or some shit, you're going to be stuck in Nashville for a while.

So instead, in her first year in the business, she's going to Hawaii. I've never seen Hawaii. No. In six months, she went from St. Joseph, Missouri to Honolulu. Wow. That's pretty fucking cool. So not too bad. She loses a title match to Kathy Starr, but that's fine.

She got a title match with the NWA. That means it's a. Go put your feet in the sand. You'll be all right. Yeah. Yeah. U.S. U.S.

Women's title belt, not the main title belt. Next up, she's wrestling for the AWA. Vergogna, we've talked about many times. We can actually do an episode on now with the shorter time period with his ending, you remember what he did so yeah that'll actually be fun um so uh she's in the awa getting beat by barbara baker again not a real you know what i mean doesn't really the names are so bad they sound like tennis players they really do they do they sound like tennis players or local anchor women yeah one of the two i'm barbara baker here's the news you can see that i'm evelyn stevens here's what happened today all of these things kust in wisconsin that's cussed yes that's where i see them all is

that's what i see the wisconsin at a news desk sitting there. Hi, I'm Evelyn Stevens with her hair done all nice. Next to me is Barbara Baker. I'm Pamela King. Was it Patty King? Who was it? Peggy King. I'm Peggy King. Peggy King sounds like a tennis player and only a tennis player. But all of Jessica Rogers? That sounds like Jessica Rabbit. That sounds like a

reporter. Barbara Baker here with Evelyn Stevens and they're going to tell you, run down the news, tell you what's going on, the facts of the day, and move on. Here's Bob of sports. And here we go to Cowboy Bradley for weather. Cowboy Bradley for sports. Little guy, big hat. And there he is.

Let me tell you what happened today in Texas sports, buddy. Okay. We made the great newscast so uh she's uh in awa again and she went from the awa their territory is big she was in bismarck north dakota oh boy and then in rochester minnesota a couple days later and then uh back to central states where she's teaming up with Anne Reagan, Ronald's sister, to beat Barbara Baker and Jessica Rogers. So they definitely get the newscast because they beat them. They sure do. Two out of three falls here.

Wrestling at the Chase. And May 26, 1962, she's at NWA Wrestling at the Chase, which is the TV taping there. And that's a huge deal to do that at that point in time. And the Chase is the Chase Hotel in St. Louis, which we know of. Yes. You know the Chase Hotel? That's why last time we were there, I stayed there because it's the place where wrestling was. Yeah.

And I found out where the fuck it was. And I was like, holy shit. There was this was the fucking chase. Wow. Cool. Not there now, obviously. But it was cool to know that was there. So she goes on to she she's in a five man or five woman battle royal at one point.

Five. Oh, wow. Five. I'd love to see that. Five. That is wild. Judy Glover won it. It was Anne Reagan, Judy Glover, Evelyn Stevens, Jessica Rogers, and Kathy Starr.

At all times, there's a two-on-one happening. That's why they're doing it. That's why you have that. And you notice these women are all working together all the time. Yeah. They're their own little circuit. And you can see they go from Central States to St. Louis to Hawaii to

AWA and they go through all the different things and they're an attraction because there's something different. So you'd have, they would talk about like in the AWA they would talk about they had a certain thing they would do like they'd have battle royals one month, they'd have Andre the Giant and then they'd have the girls

and the midgets in another month and that would be their attraction and they'd have certain times where they month. They'd have Andre the Giant. And then they'd have the girls and the midgets in another month. And that would be their attraction. And they'd have certain times where those were the attractions. Brilliant. So, yeah. There's a six-woman match here. Oh, no. This isn't.

Holy shit. Yeah, six. Evelyn Stevens, Judy Glover, and Penny Banner. Hey. That's a reporter. That's a field reporter. Penny Banner in the field. It never stops.

I'm at the corner of 14th and Amsterdam where there's several dead bodies lying about. That's what that is. I think Evelyn left off. Yeah. They beat Anne Reagan, Jessica Rogers, and Kathy Starr. And then she goes to Texas after that. She ends up in Amarillo territory, which is the Funks own that. Terry Funk's dad, Dory Funk Sr., owns that.

That is a rough and tumble. It's Texas wrestling. I mean, it's blood and guts and fighting. And you had to hear the punches hit the faces. People wanted to hear the punches hit the faces people wanted they wanted to hear that these are these are rough and tumble people in the 60s in amarillo you know what i mean um so she's the champion down there by 67 you lose i'm looking at all of her shit and it's like you kind of lose track of her from 63 to 67 even though you know she's working all over the place

but she doesn't have any like things. She's going around circuits. By 67, she's the Texas champion, and I see her defending her title and beating somebody that year. So she stays the champ, it looks like, for a little while here. She beats Mae Young. You know who Mae Young is, right, from the Attitude Era? No. The old lady who was hanging out with Fabulous Moolah?

Oh. That's her. She's little, right? Yeah. Well, so's Evelyn. Oh, yeah. Good point. Yeah.

Yeah. They end up fighting there. Okay. So Evelyn beats her, keeps her title, loses her title to Barbara Galento. Hey. Who sounds like a tough broad from the neighborhood in Philly. I got my ass kicked by barbara galento i went into the store i came out for a minute she kicked the shit out of me for no reason i don't know what happened her husband it was barbara galento yeah well the galento brothers are her all of brothers, and they're known for being very tough.

You know, fuck with the Galento brothers. If she doesn't beat you up, then they'll all come for you, so you're in trouble. They send out Barbara first. It's a real insult when she shows up to kick the shit out of you. Yeah. They're not even wasting their time with you. They just sent Barbara? Oh, Christ.

Oh, no. They don't respect me at all barbara's just their knuckles gonna kick your ass um next up this is interesting because uh it's her and a guy named nick kozak versus and this is a mixed tag male and female versus barbara galento and gary hart who if you're a wrestling fan, you know who Gary Hart is because he's one of the more famous managers in history and bookers of Texas for a long time and just a legend in the world of wrestling, Gary Hart is. I don't know if you know who he is. Bald guy, had a mustache a lot. We're talking about the 80s, had a bald guy mustache, known for always carrying a straight razor and shit like that he's a and a gun he's like he's a bad motherfucker gary hart he's crazy yeah these were old time tough guys and people would

try to assault them in parking lots and shit for being bad guys so bad guys carried weapons with them yeah i mean there's not a story of a bad guy back in the day there's not a bad guy back in the day who doesn't have a story of having to pull out guns on people and fucking tell them to go away. Even people like Jerry Lawler have like 10 stories of pulling guns on people. Yeah. This is very common. Really? The guy that carries a straight razor is the scariest fucking person on the planet. That's old school.

Gary's a Chicago guy. So he's just that's old school. Like just some street shit. I will cut your ass. That's a school. Gary's a Chicago guy, so that's old school, like just some street shit. I will cut your ass. That's a wild fucking weapon. When I was a teenager, we used to carry box cutters. That's what it was. It's the same thing.

But a box cutter, I mean, the blade on it is so much smaller than a straight razor. A straight razor is so big. The box cutters are the ones you click out, so you can make that shit five inches long. Breaks off, yeah. Yeah, that's what we used to carry around because that's what everybody had. A straight razor is basically that, but it doesn't break.

It doesn't break. No, yeah, these are disposable. You want to throw these down a sewer if you had to use one. That's the thing. Straight razors and shit you got from... Yeah, the straight razor is expensive. You want to hang on to that for a while.

Get that from your grandfather. You're going to keep that. It's got an elephant tusk fucking handle. It's got etching in it and shit. It's got your grandfather's're gonna keep that it's got an elephant tusk fucking yeah it's got etching in it and shit like it's got your grandfather's initials and shit it's a different deal so it's interesting who she crossed paths crosses paths with paths cross with i just said so that's the thing in 68 here in july i see her and Pat Patterson, who is the, you know, Pat Patterson, the booker of the WWE forever and a big, huge star in his own right as a wrestler. This is early in his career, his first five years of his career, versus Dory Funk and Evelyn Stevens. And Dory Funk, this is Dory Funk Sr., the patriarch of the Funk clan here.

So that's pretty interesting. Next up, I got her and ricky romero beating barbara galento and the sniper these are all amarillo shows here then i see they're in georgia and in georgia she's fighting barbara galento because they have a match worked out so they take it to all the territories um she beats jessica rogers for the title again in texas in 68 i see a lot of mixed tags here she She's with Gary Hart. Ooh, here's one with Danny Hodge. Danny Hodge is known as the toughest

made-of-leather man ever. Jim Ross has, like, he's, Danny Hodge is his idol. He was a wrestler. Danny Hodge was undefeated in four years of Division I wrestling and all this crazy shit, and he was a wrestler too.

And he's known as the toughest guy ever. He crashed his car in a pond and broke his neck and swam out with a broken neck. And then walked to the road and got home. He used to go to promote the wrestling in small towns back in the 60s and shit. promote the wrestling in small towns back in the 60s and shit he would go to like he'd go to the down to the hardware store and he'd buy 10 pairs of pliers and he'd sit there and break all

the pliers with his hands and he'd have a box of apples and he'd just crush apples with his hands he'd just go pop and they'd explode in your hand try to do that show shit and he's doing it for real because people would then he'd show wow this guy's really tough he's not full of shit well I want to go see him fight somebody.

That type of shit. So that's what they used to have to do back in the day. But he's famous for that. Danny Hodge. These are six man. Wow. Six man matches. Danny Hodge, Evelyn Stevens and Lorenzo Parente.

I wonder what his gimmick was. Hey, I'm here in Texas. Nice to see you. Hey, I'm in Oklahoma Texas. Nice to see you. Hey, I'm in Oklahoma. This is in Oklahoma. Where do you get a good spaghetti around here, huh? I do like the new wrestler that is the pizza guy. I like him a lot.

I don't know anything about a pizza guy at all. He's not in the WWE. He's in like NWA or TNA or something. What is it? AEW. But he has a pizza crust that he's been to. Oh, I saw that bullshit. I hate that shit.

I love him. No. Fuck out of here with that crap. He's probably a Mexican guy, but I love him. I hate that shit. That's that to me. I can't deal with that shit. He's smacking people with a pizza crust.

That's so stupid. That's so stupid. It is dumb and I love it. i yeah i just want it to be i get that it's fake and i get that it's i just want it to be plausible okay just plausible and i'll stretch plausible i'll stretch plausible to the point of a guy on the mat while macho man climbs up to the top rope and poses for a second and then does a flying elbow. But he's beat him up for 20 minutes.

So he's got 20 minutes into this. That's the end of plausibility because he would at least jump up to the top and act like he was doing it quick. Yeah. The get up and then guys lay in there and you climb up. Then you climb up to the top of a ladder and then you do eight hand gestures that they know of and get them to chant something and then make another pose and then do a backflip eight times the whole time he hasn't moved down there i can't deal with that that's still recovering that that to me is that's over the line for me where i'm like okay i'm i'm not

a complete moron please don't i'm willing to be stupid for you but don't make a complete moron. Please don't. I'm willing to be stupid for you, but don't make me a moron. That's all I ask. And the pizza dough is obviously not real because if you're – pizza dough comes apart. Yeah, it does. You can make it real. You can spin it and smack somebody. It turns. It changes into different shapes.

And this thing just stays flat. What kind of dough is that? Yeah. What kind of dough are you using, Chief? What do you got here? Oh, man. So they end up fighting Jack Donovan, Mrs. Jack Donovan. That's a gimmick for you.

Mrs. That Guy. Sure. I'm that guy if he wore a dress. Yeah, why not? And Ron Reed, she texas title here in houston where she beats k noble who again sounds like a texas beauty queen k noble here's a weird mixed tag evelyn stevens and notorious kid diddler fucking disgusting pedophile grizzly smith that's who she teams up with here if you don't know from our history that

is jake the snake roberts father and sam houston's father and rockin robbins father and jake the snake was conceived when yeah grizzly smith went out on a date with jake's mother and during the date raped his date's 14 year old daughter right resulting in jake the snake roberts and then married that 14 year old and his mother-in-law in Jake the Snake Roberts and then married that 14 year old. And his mother in law became the woman he went on a date with while he raped her daughter. That's Grizzly Smith. And that has already happened. So that's the type of guy we're dealing with here.

Gross. He was literally banned from several towns where they had to. The cops had to talk to the promoters to say, don't bring him back here. Yeah. Oh, several towns, don't bring him back. They actually would lose the money of not coming back to that town to make sure that Grizzly Smith didn't go get arrested there because he was diddling kids. But they beat Betty Nicoli and Rene Goulet,

who wrestled as a jobber in the 80s still with WWF. He was terrible back then. So then Texas women's title. Evelyn Stevens beats Joanne Mullinick. Mullin you, I guess. I don't know. I see her beating Tony Rose in Fort Worth. I see her beating Tony Rose again in Fort Worth.

So this is around this time is when she meets Don Jardine. Don Jardine is a very famous guy in the wrestling world, you know, for old school wrestling world. He's better known as the Spoiler, which was his gimmick. He's a masked guy known as the Spoiler, managed by Gary Hart. Very famous guy, but a lot of people know his name because he became a trainer later on, and he's the guy who trained The Undertaker.

Oh. Yes. Very similarly, when Undertaker first started, you know how he walks the ring ropes? He'll go up on the top rope and then just walk out on them all weird? You didn't really see people doing that before him. The only guy that really did that before him was Don Jardim, who taught him to do that. him the only guy that really did that before him was john don jardine who taught him to do that that's why he did that as like a tribute to his trainer and um all the old school wrestling people when he did that they were like oh shit it's like the spoiler i've never seen anybody do that since

the spoiler type of thing so uh he's a big guy don jardine 6 5 over 250 so back then in the 60s he was a fucking monster that was one of the you know one of the giants back then outside of like ernie ladd and a couple of guys that were 610 611 he was pretty fucking big um you know a tiny wife huh yeah got him a tiny little blonde wife here um so that's john dart don jardine real name donald delbert dart jardine so there's your first last name for Evelyn. And that's how Gary Hart got involved in her life and his life and all that sort of shit. Now, they end up in Australia at one point here. What?

The whole crew. Jim Barnett, who's a famous wrestling promoter all the way up through the 90s in fucking WCW, he's still holding on. He's the guy that every time his name is brought up every wrestler who's sitting around at the table whenever there's a discussion we'll do an impression of him oh you just say jim barnett wrestlers will go my boy my boy that's he called everybody my boy my boy and he'd talk like that so everyone has that impression and they all laugh so he started off up a big promotion in Australia at this point. And here's an excerpt from Gary Hart's very good book.

Gary Hart wrote a memoir about wrestling, and it's fucking phenomenal. It's great. It's out there, too. If you look on the internet, I'll give you the name of it at the end of the show. And if you look on the internet, there's a PDF of it because it was out of print for a long time.

So you can actually download it and read it. Here's some shit here from Gary Hart's book. Jim, meaning Barnett, also brought female wrestling to Australia. And one of the girls he brought was Evelyn Stevens, who coincidentally had been dating Don Jardine for about eight months. who coincidentally had been dating Don Jardine for about eight months. Evelyn arrived on a Wednesday afternoon and checked into the Koala Motel, which that sounds like a joke. That sounds like, what am I staying at the Koala Motel?

And they're like, yeah, actually, that's where you're staying. The Emu Lodge was all full. Sorry, we couldn't fit you in. But at cocktail hour, there are shrimp on the bar. There are shrimp. Sorry, we couldn't fit you in. But at cocktail hour, there are shrimp on the barbie. There are shrimp. Sorry, it's every stereotype possible. We'll all compare knife sizes after that. That's how this works.

The Koala Motel, which is where a lot of the working girls did their tricks with the men in town. She's saying the local broth town. This is the. He's staying at the local brothel. The Hooker Motel. Yeah, the Hooker Motel. Just that's where they're staying. So he says that night, Don and Evelyn double dated with me and my wife.

Went out for a nice double date. We went out to eat. And then we saw a Tom Jones concert at the Silver Spade. Well, isn't that nice? Wow. What an outing they had. What a day. Not bad, right?

For like the 60s, that's hot shit. Not bad. It's a big day. He said, after that, we stopped by the Texas Tavern to have a few drinks. They have a Texas Tavern there? Why do they have that thing? Wow, that's weird. Interesting.

They had to go just to see what it was about since they're all Texas people. What does Australia think Texas is? Yeah, that would be fucking hilarious, wouldn't it? It really would. I want to know. Sight unseen, an Australian that has to build a tavern about America. Never been to America, never researched anything, just everything they've ever heard there's tons of places like that actually though there is uh in that h john benjamin book that we always talk about there that failure is an option he talks about going to paris in the mid 80s and he went to some bar that was an american theme bar and he said it was just like the place he worked in that the the fajita place he worked in he goes

it really reminded me of it it was disturbing. It was really disturbing. They did a really good job. It really felt like it. It was strange. They went to the Texas Tavern to have a few drinks and then went to the Koala Motel because my wife had asked Evelyn to bring over certain things that she couldn't get in Australia, like brownie

and cake mixes. She wanted to make brownies and cakes and they didn't have the kind she wanted over there. The girls were both dressed up because we had gone to a nice restaurant and a Tom Jones concert and as we walked into the motel and started toward the elevator the guy behind the desk yelled,

Hey, you can't take those whores upstairs. You can't take those whores upstairs screaming it across the lobby this wasn't they were at the desk they're at the elevator this is hey no Those whores up there? Oi! Oi! That is funny. That is wonderful. You can't take those whores up there. Now, that is Gary Hart's wife and this guy's fiance. Right.

Two very tough, one guy who carries a straight razor, and the other guy who's 6'5", 275 pounds and is agile enough to walk on a rope. So what does that tell you is going to happen here? I will future train a man known the world over. Come here. Yeah, come here for a minute. So he said, Don turned around and glared at him asking,

what did you just say? Oh, God. The guy behind the desk glared right back and answered, I said, you can't take them whores upstairs. He doubled down. You didn't hear me them whores there those two in case you were wondering especially the blonde one she's pretty hot she looks like she's cost a couple bucks more no whores is what i'm getting at oh god this scene this isn't gonna go well obviously no

no shit so you're gonna hear a lot of oi oi coming from somewhere please stop mate yeah yeah please good god he said don then told me to take the girls up in the elevator and wait in the room i in turn turn, told the girls to go up on their own because I was concerned about what might transpire. Concern for that man's safety. Yeah. Keep my friend out of prison, probably. He said I knew how Don could get. Yeah.

Now, the girls could have kicked his ass on their own. That's the funny part. When the girls got on the elevator, soon as the doors closed, Don leaped over the desk, hit the guy, knocked him up against the wall, picked him up, and threw him over the desk into the foyer. Then

proceeded to throw him through a plate glass window out onto a patio that had a big wishing well pond, and proceeded to stomp him in the chest and stomach. You're going to kill this man. Yeah, he's already punched him, hit him against the wall, thrown him over a desk, then through a plate glass window. Now he stomped him and he's still not done.

And the guy just wants him to not take whores upstairs. He's just like, I just, he just could have said it's my wife. It's fine. I'm just saying i just he just gonna said it's my wife it's fine i'm just saying i'm just telling you hotel policy yeah well probably don't call people's wife a whore and that's what's gonna happen watch whose wife you call a whore next time i don't think in australia whore is an insult i think it's i mean i think it's a job title it's almost yeah it's almost like the old west you're saying? Yeah. Like that was considered an honorable thing.

Yeah. I'm a whore. Oh, okay, yeah. Here's my business card. I'm a whore. It's like being a CPA back then. Seriously, you're a professional, you're a thing. I have a tax stamp for this. I'm a whore.

Absolutely. Yeah, that's exactly different. I think it's the same thing in Australia probably. Still to this day, I assume, right? Well, it's legal there, so yeah. Oh, okay. Well, there you go. Good.

Good for you, Australia. Watch who you talk to, though, I got to say. Watch who you talk about. Careful that they're American because it's not the same word here. It's like cunt. Yeah, you called your wife a whore and a cunt. So after he stomped his chest and stomach, then he lodged his head up against a brick wall. And I quickly grabbed the guy by his legs and pulled him back because I knew that Don was going to boot him right in the head.

Against a wall. Against a wall. He was going to blow his head up like a cantaloupe because he called his wife a whore unknowingly. I pulled him back to save him but now his crotch was spread open because he pulled one leg and yanked him out Don looked at me and grinned and said good idea oh my god

I'm not helping you sir I'm trying to help him by the way Gary Hart's book full of stories just like this any old wrestlers memoir you can get your hands on, get your hands on, because it's all just crazy fucking stories like this. So good idea. All right.

He then kicked the guy right in the crotch, picked him up, and threw him in the pond. Oh, my God. I was stunned and said, Don, get out of here right now and go back to the apartment. I'll take care of the girls. Don took off in a flash, and the guy on the floor was messed up really bad. Yeah, I guess he was. I called an ambulance and begged, please hurry. Someone's hurt very bad at the Koala Motel.

When the police arrived, a witness told them that the attacker was me, so the cops asked me who I was. I put my best innocent face on and replied, to be honest, I don't know him. I only know his name is Tex, and he's here on R&R from Vietnam. Some crazy Vietnam guy. I don't fucking know, man. They're doing crazy shit in the bush over there, bro. I heard some wild stuff. He ran upstairs with a necklace of ears.

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out on him. Yeah. So he's like, I don't know who the fuck he is. So he said, the police took my passport for four days and took three statements from me but never pursued it any further. What Don did was brutal, but the guy behind the desk was a punk and got what was coming to him. While that story shows the viciousness of Don, it also shows what a loyal friend he could be. Call his girl a whore, he will.

So, I mean, you can see why Evelyn would be so attracted to him. Loyal friend and terrific defending husband. I would say so. As a friend, Don in every way was a great guy and would give you the shirt off his back. I've literally seen him give his wrestling boots to new young guys who couldn't afford boots. He even gave Dusty Rhodes, the Dusty Rhodes, three ring outfits when he was starting out. What Don did that night at the Koala Hotel was done out of respect for me my wife and his girlfriend don is a very special guy but if you mess with him there's a heavy price to pay so this is what wrestling was back then guys like that shit man who could

handle themselves and you know back then if you got in a fight in town and got your ass kicked you got fired right because then you were bullshit and so everyone in town and got your ass kicked, you got fired. Right. Because then you were bullshit. And so everyone in town had to know, oh, you don't fuck with those wrestlers. They'll kick the shit out of you. So I think everyone in Australia probably knew that that wasn't a good idea. They got the picture pretty quick. They got the picture quick here, even the koalas. So in 69, I'm looking.

Oh, there she is. Evelyn Stevens defeats Donna Christianello. There it is in Australia. She fights Donna Christian. Hello. All over the place. Melbourne, Sydney, Melbourne, Sydney again. Here's a Donna Christian. Hello. Mario Milano. Tex McKenzie. Tex McKenzie beat Evelyn Stevens, Murphy, the Magnificent and theiler, who is her husband, Don Jardine. So she has a couple of matches here where she does mixed tags with her husband. She beats Maria DeLeon. Her and Jose Lothario, who, by the way, is the guy who trained Shawn Michaels. So, yeah, beat Joe Blanchard, who is a guy who ended up, Jesus Christ, Joe Blanchard ended up taking over Southwest Championship Wrestling all the way into the 80s. He's the guy who ended up, Jesus Christ, Joe Blanchard ended up taking over Southwest Championship Wrestling all the way into the 80s.

He's the first guy who had the program on USA Network that Vince McMahon took over when he couldn't afford it anymore. So, yeah, that's back in the early 80s. That's who Joe Blanchard is. And he's Tully Blanchard's father, by the way. There you go. So she fights there, Joe Blanchardard and maria de leon all right so um we have all of that i found a match here i found a card there's a newspaper card here like you know what happened in the in the matches and i see dory jr and terry funk is on this card

dick murdoch's on here all these fucking people and and a guy named The Mummy. Oh. The Mummy beat P.Y. Chung. Oh, my God. Imagine what the stereotypes were in Texas in 1968 of P.Y. Chung. I feel dirty already. Wow. I feel terrible.

I feel like I did it. Oh, you know? That's not good. That's not good. I certainly feel complicit. it. Oh, you know, that's not good. That's not good. I certainly feel complicit. Yeah, don't you? Don't you feel a little sticky on that one? Yikes.

So 1969, Stevens is credited with an article in the April 1969 edition of The Wrestler magazine, which was around forever. When I was a little kid in the 80s, I used to get it, uh, called sex and the girl wrestler was the name of the article. Okay. I'm reading a photo of Stevens accompanied the piece and it focused on dating difficulties and leering fans in the arenas. Guys can't call her and shit like that. So,

uh, this is from the article. Now we don't, I don't know if this is a, they say it's, it's the most, it's called the most outspoken article ever written by a girl wrestler. So that's what it's called.

And back then, a lot of these interviews were just made up by the magazines. But there seems to be a consensus that she really said this for some reason. So I'm going to credit her with this here. She now in the photo, she's got like a bikini on and you know she's looking hot uh and it says quote uh what makes these old guys feel like boys again i suppose is the sight of two shapely young women dressed in scanty bathing suits clawing each other and being forced into rather suggestive positions you think yeah oftentimes these positions can be downright embarrassing but we can't help that when your opponent catches you just right and pulls your

legs apart there isn't much you can do about it yeah yeah i was gonna say that's why that line right there is gonna get so many more dirty old men to the match hold on a sec they pull your legs apart and there's nothing you can do about it tell me more there's very little material there and some are bigger than others. Sometimes something might fall out. I'm walking. Just ladies doing that to each other? Oh, boy.

Yeah, that's going to get dirty. I can imagine you're fighting over me. Sure, let's go. Oh, man. She says, but you can never convince that old man in the first row of that. He has the idea as he stares up at the ring with eyeballs popping that the girls are trying to stir him up. Yeah. So that's what she says about that whole thing.

So she marries Don Jardine, as we know. During the 70s, she dabbles in like some stunt work and some like low-budget movies and some acting. But I can't – I don't know if she acted under what name because I can't find her in any IMDb or anything. She might have just done some stunt work in some B-movies or whatever the fuck. So eventually she divorces Don Jardine. Don't know why. I don't know if he threw her over a desk and threw a plate glass window or what. But eventually.

He stopped defending her for being called a whore. I guess eventually she got called a whore one too many times. He said it's not worth it. I don't know what happened but she ends up dating wahoo mcdaniel who is one of the craziest son of a bitch has ever not only in wrestling but in football as well he's known as it he played eight seasons in the afl actually wow really yeah he's a real no shit he went to the university of oklahoma he's a legend playing football, and he's a psychopath lunatic. What's his real name?

Ed McDaniel. I think it's Ed is his real name. I can see how you get there. He's an Indian. He's a Native American with a headdress. His dad is like 116th Chickasaw and 116th Choctaw and the rest, whatever, and his mom's German. So we'll make it up as we go. Exactly.

But at least he's part Indian. Yeah, yeah. They're still there. It's better than fucking Jack Scarpa, a Guinea from Philly, who played Chief J. Strongbow. Better than that. I think he was also the Indian in Ernest Goes to Camp. Wahoo? Or Chief J. Strongbow? No, no, no.

Strongbow. Really? Yeah, I think so. Oh, man. Now, Wahoo's crazy. So this is who she decides to date. Now, we already know she dates a guy who tosses around a motel clerk with impunity. Wahoo is a lunatic.

So just to give you a couple of Wahoo stories and then give you a story about how tough Evelyn is in comparison. Okay. of wahoo stories and then give you a story about how tough evelyn is in comparison okay um here is uh a a guard on the football team from oklahoma okay yeah yeah wahoo by the way played in the afl he played for the broncos for a minute he played for the jets for several years he was right from the beginning he was also on the for on the dolphins expansion team he's on the first dolphins roster yeah uh he uh but in in in new york the the announcer would say rather than tackle made by this person when wahoo made a tackle he just had wahoo on the back of his jersey he did so he was he hate me before he hate me we're talking in the early 60s. Not even his name.

He just has it on the back of his jersey. It's incredible. And when he made a tackle because he was a linebacker, the announcer would say, tackle made by who? And the crowd would chant Wahoo. That was their every time he made a tackle. So that was a big deal. This one guy says about him, he was the type of guy who actually bet someone he could run from Midland to Odessa, Texas. That's a long way. Yeah. He said it was like 20 or 30 miles but why and but wahoo didn't have a body for running he's like 5 11 280 he's a you know not exactly a distance runner type of physique he said so he

completes the run he did it he's just crazy wah crazy, Wahoo. And then in Odessa, they bet again, double or nothing, that he couldn't drink a quart of oil. Oh, my God. He's going to do it. Yeah. He said, Wahoo drank half a quart and passed out. Yeah, it's fucking poison. He said, I was reading that story in Sports Illustrated, sitting next to Wah on a plane flying to a game and asked him if it was true. I couldn't believe it, but he told me all about it.

Oh, my God. Yeah. And this is what he says. Quote, I'd been running 10 miles a day training for OU. This is Wahoo for the OU wrestling team. And I accepted a challenge from some people in the athletic dorm. The bet was that I could run from the front steps of the dorm in Norman to the city limits of Chickasha, which we did a Small Town Murder episode about, without stopping. So I put on shorts and a t-shirt and took off right at noon. They followed me in a car to make sure I didn't stop.

Uphill, downhill, God, it was brutal. But finally I reached the top of a hill and below there was chicochet uh 36 miles in exactly six hours flat he ran six miles an hour it's pretty impressive wow i collected 185 for that as a bet that in the late 50s that's a lot of money for fucking nearly 40 miles so that's that's like it's almost suicide man, that's a lot of money. For fucking nearly 40 miles, though? That's almost suicide, man. But that's like a month's salary for an adult in 1958. That's a lot.

And then he drank motor oil. Yeah, but Marathon died after, what is it, 16 miles? Yeah, this is 36 miles. This is twice that. He's run two Marathons. This is insane. Wow. He said, and later, after word of that Chickasha stunt got around, I started running shorter distances from Norman to Oklahoma City, just 20 miles, against fraternity relay teams. I'd give them a half a mile head start, but didn't like the long – oh, he said his coach, Bud.

Bud didn't like the long haul running either, though. Didn't want him to run that much. That's crazy. His knees. So he he's talks about motor oil. He's this is what he said about it. Wahoo. That oil made me sick for months. Every time I I'd sweat, I could feel the stuff oozing out. I smelled like an old pickup truck. Oh, my God. He said, in those days, I'd do anything on a bet. Eat a gallon can of jalapeno peppers.

Didn't matter. Gross. Jesus Christ. So his buddy here from school said, quote, our first trip to New York to play the Jets. This is later on when he's playing for somebody else. First trip to New York to play the Jets. This is later on when he's playing for somebody else. First trip to New York to play the Jets. The police were waiting for him outside the plane. They arrested him.

They all knew him. He had some disturbing the peace ticket or some traffic ticket he had to pay. One of the coaches went with him and paid her $300 or $400 fine so he could play that day. So there's that. Midway through the 68 season, on the eve of a game at Denver, neighbors, this is his friend neighbors, received a phone call from Wahoo at 3.30 a.m. Wahoo had gotten a fight in Denver with some cops.

Some cops. You get a call at 3.30, hello, half asleep, what's up, what's going on? I got in a fight with some cops. What? That's not a fight. I mean, apart from a bunch of dirty cops, you're generally in the wrong every time. That's not a fight with some cops. Some people tried to arrest me and I got away after beating them up.

That's a different fight. Unless this is The Sop the sopranos they're probably in the wrong well he told them that he got in a fight with some cops and he had to put the old sleeper hold on a few of them a few a few of them said to put a few cops to sleep jesus christ um now uh he said that wahoo called me on the phone another guy said wahoo called him on the phone too but he said i didn't do anything they just everything, and then I had to put him to sleep. So the general manager or the coach, George Wilson, he says about George Wilson, George Wilson came to my room and said he didn't have a choice.

They traded him to San Diego right then in the middle of the night, and it was the last time I saw him. They traded him and got him on a plane so he didn't get so he didn't get arrested they just they traded him out of the jurisdiction real quick man so he said another time uh this was when we were they were with the broncos he said somebody was making popcorn for mcdaniel and a half dozen other teammates in his training camp hotel room they said the assistant comes around and gives notices of people being cut. This is the Turk that comes around. You've all seen hard knocks. They come around, bring your playbook and come see coach, right?

So the assistant giving notices to those being cut was coming door to door down the hall. The knock came on the door. This is a guy named Mingo. He said the knock came on Mingo's door. A player in the room was about to be cut. Wahoo had this Bowie knife he carried around. When they opened the door, Wahoo let out an Indian yell and threw the knife into the wall. That guy went running down the hall so fast yelling, he's crazy.

He's trying to kill me. Let him stay. Fuck it. i don't care anymore who's being cut not me not me wahoo not wahoo um the other weird part is his wahoo was a good baseball player too he's a great athlete um his pony league which is a little league team league his pony league coach in midland texas was george herbert bush first first president bush was his right little league coach yeah how fucking weird is that at the time he was just an oil guy and um you know was in the war and all that shit and

his father was a senator and all that crap but he uh the former president said quote i remember wahoo mcdaniel well he was a good kid and a pretty fair baseball player too he had his ups and downs but i'll always remember him as a wonderful kid who captured the imagination of west texas in the 1950s he was idolized and worshipped by everyone who knew him and then uh he just said yeah bush was my baseball coach in high school that's all that's all deal now we set the table for Wahoo to tell you what a crazy fuck he is, obviously. And there's a million fights he's in, and he's known as a real tough guy. This is from a book.

It says, quote, McDaniel's most famous lost fight may have been with his girlfriend at the time, Evelyn Stevens. Jesus Christ. Okay. This Christ. Okay. This is the story. McDaniel Wahoo's fooling around with other girls, obviously, because he's a wrestler. He's fooling around with other girls.

Evelyn heard about it, found out about it, and rolled up on him in a bar one night. This is fucking amazing. Rolled up on him at a bar one night and he's chatting up some young lady here and he's all shit-faced at the bar so what she did was knocked him kicked the bar stool out from under him oh shit so he fell on the ground and then stomped him out in

the fucking bar put the fucking boots to him and worked his ass over stomped him punched him whooped his fucking ass left the girl sitting there didn't say shit to her not her fucking problem or fault this motherfucker so that's who evelyn is don't make a fool out of evelyn she will whoop your ass and even a tough wrestler, she'll kick his ass in the bar. And everybody was like, oh, man, that's Evelyn. So she goes on in the 60s, working Texas most of the time. She's the champ here and there, on and off, on and off. Gary Hart gets her a title match with Fabulous Moolah here for the NWA women's title.

Now, when Moolah in the 80s, when she had her big thing with Wendy Richter and all that, they said that Fabulous Moolah has held the belt for like 28 years or any all that bullshit. She had it most of the time, but she lost it a few times over that 28 years. And one of the times was to Evelyn Stevens, which is three times she lost the belt and one of them is to Evelyn Stevens. So that's how much respect Evelyn has. So here's an excerpt again from the Gary Hart book. It's called My Life in Wrestling by the way, the book.

He says, quote, in October 1978 I had Moolah booked in a couple of matches against Evelyn Stevens and I thought it would be a good idea to do a quickie title switch. They do that from time to time. These quickie title switches just to spike a territory it'll help get some get some get some talk going on they did it Ric Flair would drop it in Japan for a day and win it back and shit like that so um he says there were a couple

of problems with that however first of all Moolah first won the belt in 1956 and she didn't like losing it this is 1978 yeah oh my god 22 years later yeah she doesn't like losing it. This is 1978. Oh, my God. 22 years later. Yeah. She doesn't like losing it. That's yeah. She's an she's getting up there to an age.

I mean, you could tell she looks like someone's grandma's beating people up by the 80s. It's weird. Second, Evelyn wasn't one of Moolah's girls. She was considered independent. So Moolah doesn't want to drop the title of some chick that she doesn't control. Because otherwise, maybe she'll run away with it. What does Moolah know, you know? So she said it was rare enough that she was getting in the ring with someone she didn't control.

And now I was asking her to drop her belt to that person. Moolah had a lot of trust in me, though. So when I asked her if we could do a title switch, she agreed. Evelyn Stevens won the title on october 8th 1978 but she only had it for there's conflicting stories whether she had it for two days or eight days i'm not sure which it was but she's one of the three people who can say that she actually pinned mula and won her fucking title clean or four because i guess wendy richter could say it later but i guess four but at the time three she was the third person

she lost it actually Moolah dropped it once to Betty Boucher or Boucher in 1966 in Japan just for a day or two then she in February 2nd 1976

she lost it to Sue Tex Green Green by submission that night. So the problem with that was, this is a thing, I don't know how true this is, but legend has it that that match turned into a shoot. Went off what was supposed to happen. And apparently this girl lost her fucking mind and decided to put her in a real fucking submission hold after a while. So that's the rumor. Don't know how true that is. So we'll see.

Apparently, though, the girl wasn't going to give back the title, wasn't going to lose it back to her. Apparently the legend has it that Vince McMahon Sr. stepped in and brokered a thing here to get her to give the title back after that because she didn't win it by real circumstances. So altogether, Evelyn Stevens held the Women's Texas – NWA Texas Women's Championship five times, the NWA World Women's Championship one time. NWA World Women's Championship one time. And apparently because it was technically WWF recognized the weird things, I guess you could kind of call her WWE, WWF, WWWF champion sort of thing.

So she ended up continuing from 78. She's still wrestling through. Yeah, all over the place. South Carolina, I her uh in houston all through texas wrestling central states again um i think she's in memphis here a little bit um oh look at this she has a match where uh her and dutch mantel beat angel and rick rude this is in rick rude's rookie year so she goes all the way from danny hodge to rick rude like it's a real long fucking way through here um she if i see a street fight this is southwest championship this is joe blanchard this is blood and gut shit um where she she's beaten susan green is that sue tex green that is

that's the same yep that's the same one that beat old uh mula there so she's a bad fucking woman there she's pretty tough um So I see her wrestling all through 84. Then, from what I find here, she finds a new man around this time. Yeah, a new man. Frank Regal, the second of her names. R-I-E-G-L-E.

Frank is a bodybuilder and knows a lot of the wrestlers because they come to his gym and he trains people. So he's a big jacked fucking dude like them. He's a he owns a fitness center and it's called Powerhouse Gym and Fitness Center. So that tells you what that is right there. He opened it in the mid 70s and it's been thriving, doing well for him.

Now, Evelyn, she ends up getting in a from what i understand in 84 the last match i find her in is uh october 7th 1984 southwest championship wrestling uh freeman coliseum san antonio texas she beats princess jasmine it's the last thing i see and then apparently she is in a snowmobiling accident or Oh, I'm sorry, an automobile accident, not snowmobile. That's more common, way more common. Snowmobiles kill a lot of people. Yeah, fucking a lot of people up here. So she got in a car accident and hurt herself pretty good,

and she's been in the fucking ring for over 20 years on top of it. So she is sore. She's ridden in a lot of cars for a lot of hours, taking a lot of bumps. That's a lot. So she ends up. She's ridden in a lot of cars for a lot of hours, taking a lot of bumps. That's a lot. So she ends up retiring at this point. And she's 40 at this point, which is still young in wrestling kind of. But, you know, John, if you're banged up like that.

So she ends up retiring and she ends up working at the fitness center with her husband, Frank, here as a trainer. And she would coach women in fitness and training uh wrestling hopefuls also she would kind of teach you give you the basics and shit like that she knows oh she's legit yeah she's been in the business for 20 something she beat mula for christ's sake she knows what she's doing and then um and also too she's in great shape you can see her she is fucking she's not like uh letting herself go or anything like that. She is in gym shape. Now, Frank is also a big guy here. Here's a guy named, you ever hear of Jeep Swenson, Jimmy, a wrestler?

He's in a bunch of movies, too. He's like always some silent big oaf guy on the side. Let me show you this man here. Roll your chair, please. Look at this thing. Oh, do I know him you might have seen jeep swenson somewhere but he i mean he's that's a character for sure he's a ridiculous looking cast like yeah very that's all natural obviously yeah what's he a 30 inch arms probably

i mean that's probably an extra extra large shirt and he is giving it the business. It's fucking, he is fucking it right. It just called his girlfriend a whore in Australia. He's pounding it. Wow, that shirt is taking some abuse. He is stretching its crotch right open. That's impressive. He's a big write it up man. Yeah, I'd love to be stretching a shirt like that for those reasons.

Man. In those areas you mean? Yeah. Now he trained with Frank and he says Frank has been in the bodybuilding business since he's a young man and he knows what he's doing and he trained under him as well. Jeep did. So look at me. I'm huge.

Frank's good. If he reaches too hard for anything that sleeve rips right oh everything rips his whole shirt no way that sleeve has a chance he just has to flex and that shirt's gonna explode it looks like that's what it looks like it is part of him now it's wild yeah i'll look up jeep swenson everybody it's crazy it's robert jeep swenson so the frank and evelyn move in together in july of 1984 and they live together, work together, do all this shit up until August 22nd of 1986. That is when she ends up moving out because there's a bit of a problem. He apparently reportedly threw her 10 feet across a room, according to an affidavit in court records here.

She said that she was terrified of Frank's violent temper and that he had and that she's been a victim of physical abuse of his in the past. She said, quote, Frank Regal has a violent and ungovernable temper ungovernable temper um he flies into rages for no reason he uses steroids and other drugs in conjunction with his weight training well we've now found the reason yeah i mean that he's training that guy what do you expect yeah i believe these drugs are making him progressively irrational and violent he has threatened my life and now I fear for my life. That's what she said. So the judge granted a restraining

order for her there and it's a dual restraining order. Everybody stay the fuck away from everybody. Nobody talk or see anybody. Yeah. Evelyn's divorce attorney at this point because she files for divorce Diane O'Hare said that her client

is under psychiatric care since this has started and that um they also filed a police report state with the affidavit saying that frank threw her across a room also several neighbors have witnessed her have witnessed him tossing her back and forth in the front yard in the snow wow is it they just practicing bumps what are they doing out there like but was it aggressive or was it to train i he's not training though they're both in their 40s at this point what were they training for he's just fighting his wife in the snow he's just beating up his wife in the snow i think is what it is he's just a big righted up asshole who's tossing his wife around in the snow. And like I said, she can take care of herself, but he's a big fucking guy.

Physically, he can toss her around. Remember, oh my God, what's her name? We did a whole bonus episode about her. Christy Martin. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Christy Martin, tough as nails, but there's a different, it's different, you know? When a man's punching you, it's for real. And he's a boxer, too. yeah so and this is a big giant

strong guy so september 86 is when she files a divorce petition the next month uh and um now the whole thing this is the weird part he contends that they were never married so she files a divorce and he says i i contest the divorce not for reasons that I don't want a divorce, for reasons that we were never married to begin with, which is a very strange answer to a divorce proceeding. It also seems very easy to prove. Yeah, it's very strange. So the judge signs a mutual restraining order. Stay away from each other. October, November goes by with relatively little flare-up or fanfare between the two they

stay away from each other then at one point december 18th 1986 so a week before christmas 1986 frank is coming home from the powerhouse gym this is in the san antonio area by the way coming home from the powerhouse gym drives home gets home at some point during the night, during this evening. Apparently she's there. I don't know if she was supposed to be there, if they were seeing each other beside this, despite the restraining order, or if she just violated the restraining order and came over. I'm not sure what it is, but he came home to his own residence and she was there, which is not legal at this point in time. At some point during this argument, they get in an argument, and at some point she shoots him at point-blank range.

She takes a gun out and she shoots him at point-blank range three times in the face and chest oh boy not fucking around shoots to kill eliminating the target yeah shoots to kill uh now we don't know if he's not gonna this is a sally mcneil situation now we have no we have a big roided up angry guy with a history of abuse that that neighbors have witnessed and everything else it's documented abuse and now they're together um we don't know if he was beating her up she's not even supposed to be there so did he invite her over and then got in a rage and then she shot him in self-defense or did she show up without his permission and uh he tried to throw her out and she shot him we have no fucking idea

what happened at this point it's all up to it's, she's the only one left and the only one who was there. But she did leave a note at the scene. Uh-oh. Which is different. He's dead now. He's dead. She kills him. Three shots, face and chest.

He's dead. Shit. So she leaves a letter at the scene that says, my God in heaven, forgive me for what I've done, which is not a good start for your defense case. I have reached out to everyone for help. I love Frank enough enough for us to die together. So she writes a suicide note. Yeah, she's killed him. She's ready to turn the gun on herself, writes a suicide note, but then doesn't kill herself.

She took off after that now um the prosecutor in the case clearly because they're a prosecutor they they say that evelyn was the one to blame for for how the whole thing went down because they're going to prosecute her for murder now um he says if anybody was the aggressor in this relationship it was her she just blew him away there's nothing in the lady's background to indicate she was a timid wallflower the pattern of the battered wife syndrome does not fit her at all she was a wrestler wrestlers are actors okay so she's a wrestler so she couldn't possibly be telling the truth about what happened that's what he said anything they say't believe anything they say now. But they're actors, but they're also super tough at the same time, even though they're

phony. Do you see what he just did? He just said, she's super tough. Look at her in the ring, body slamming another chick, but she's also so full of shit because look at her. She's not really body slamming that chick, but she is because that's how tough she is. What are you talking about? Just talked in a circle.

Right. It doesn't matter how tough she is. If her husband was five foot five and weighed 110 pounds that would make a difference but he's a giant jacked up bodybuilder so who beats her up already we know that for a fact so she might be why she's there though i mean that's the that's different yeah yeah but to put it that way is a weird way to put it it's just bizarre here's a by the way i'll show you a mugshot of her not looking like a crazy sexpot wrestler. Oh, my God.

What is that? Who is that? She's got big, giant granny glasses on. She looks like my mom. They go, her glasses go below her nose. They're so big. They almost touch her lips. Yeah.

We'll post her mugshot on the social media. If she smiles, those touch her lips yeah i'll show we'll post her mugshot on the social media smiles those touch her lips yeah absolutely those are some big old glasses yeah um so she there she is she's in jail and you don't know i mean i don't know who to feel bad for here you know what i mean like he's dead but was he does he deserve it was she... I don't know. I don't know what happened. Is she a monster or is he? All I do know is I don't know who to feel bad for there, but I do know who to feel bad for otherwise. And it's Evelyn Stevens, U.S. Olympic bicycle team, I guess it would be. She won the Exergy Tour following the final stage breakaway, cementing her claim to a berth in the U.S. Olympic team for the London Games back in the day there.

She took second place in a sprint with some other fucking person. I don't know. She biked for a shitload a long time. Also, don't fuck with her. Don't fuck with her. Yeah. So there's her, who she now is the principal something for KKR, which is a credit.

Some credit. I don't know. She does some financial shit now. That was close. There you go. So Evelyn, I mean, this could go either. This could be a long trial. You know what I mean?

With what happened here and there. Evelyn just pleads guilty. Really? They get her to plead. I don't know what it is. I don't know why the prosecution, if they're so sure of everything, I don't know why they would even take a plea here. If she cold-bloodedly went over to a man's house who had a restraining order against her and shot him in the face, they should have been going for the death penalty in Texas.

Or they were unsure that that's really what happened, and the guy had his thumb up his ass, this prosecutor, and said, I don't know what happened, so I'll just take what I can get. I suppose they scared her with the letter, right? And was like i'll can i'll just admit to it it looks terrible and i yeah i think neither side wants to wants to try this case today this does today this goes to trial and she is home free by probably yeah probably this is nobody wants this trial there's the letter on her behalf that she doesn't want and they don't want the fact that they can't, you know, obviously. She shouldn't have been there because of the restraining order. Yeah, they don't know what happened. So she pleads guilty to this, and the sentencing comes down.

You, ma'am, may fuck off. 20 years in prison she gets for this. Holy shit. She gets 20, which in Texasas that's not a lot for shooting somebody three times in the face and chest and killing them in their own home that's is it not well not in texas jesus christ yeah texas you rob a liquor store and you know the guy with you shoots someone you get the death penalty that's just no no joke there was vacuum life in prison insides once you shrink so while they laugh so while she's in prison. Your insides. Watch you shrink while they laugh.

While they laugh. So while she's in prison, though, there is a building clemency movement for battered women over this time in the late 80s and early 90s. It's a nationwide movement prompted to help release women who could prove through hospital records, police reports, or eyewitness accounts that they were killed because they were that they killed someone because they were in an abusive, long term abusive relationship. Right. So 1991 comes around as her first opportunity for parole. And she is let out with parole. How about it? Ninety one. They let her right out with this movement behind her and the fact that she this time she's like in her late 40s.

You know what I mean? And she's with the big five, five years. Not even not even was foreign change. Possible murder. Yeah. Foreign change. She did. So she after that, she applies for clemency because otherwise she's got 15 years of parole in front of her.

The clemency would make it so she's not even on parole. Wow. Okay. There is a big movement. There's an advocacy group up to basically trying to assist a bunch of these women in Texas. There's a group there to get help. The inmates need to provide names and phone numbers to outside contacts. They have 93 women that have applied for clemency through this group,

and 70 of them have submitted documents, trials or letters or trial transcripts to support everything. So actually as paperwork, the parole board at this point in 92 had screened 13 candidates and rejected 11 of them. Oh yeah. Said that they could apply again the next year, but they were rejected at that point.

So now there's two cases up before the board coming up. One of them is Evelyn's. Yeah, there's Linda Beal who's 52 years old, who is a Houston grandmother who killed somebody, and Evelyn obviously, who's going by Evelyn Jardine

Regal in the court docs here, who is 49 at this point. She's born in 43 then. She's born because this is 92. And one of the board people said, it's kind of strange why these cases got picked and others did not. We want the board to send some more cases over. So they were wondering about that. It's the, what is it, the Texas council on family violence is one of the people involved here

so they um they're one of they just turned a lady down who shot her boyfriend who said she said was abusive they just turned that down um they got uh it's some of the i guess they're getting like if there's a five person board they're getting three, two votes to get these people sent back or to not give them clemency here. They said lawyers familiar with Evelyn's case paint a picture of a fatal attraction relationship in which both of them say they were abused. Over the course of this relationship, Frank has said she has done abusive shit to him too. So this is – you know what I mean? they both have affidavits yeah yeah so it's it's a little bit different so uh in 1993 um her case comes up before the board and she is denied clemency on that so she ended up having to do all that time uh in parole anyway I mean, she was out of jail, which is fine. As long as you don't kill anybody else, you should be okay.

And they probably are going to offer clemency to the people that were convicted on shoddy evidence more faster than they will somebody who fucking pled. Yeah. Yeah. Guilty. That letter, too, just looks tough because I guess there was more to it that wasn't released. Now, she's still alive to this day, from what I understand. She remarried again at some point. We don't know if she just added a tacton name on or what.

From what I've heard, though, she was going under her new married name and dropped the other two. So now she's really, really, you can't find her now. She's trying to be anonymous. Her new husband probably broke that information to her. know you don't have to do this you know you could just lose them other two names right really yeah drop them it's really easy so apparently she was living in florida under a new name at this point she'd be 80 years old this year she'd be 80 can't get enough of evelyn well you can see oh here's a good picture for you here's one of the pictures you can buy on ebay it's from 1970 of her there she is jimmy not bad yeah yeah that was 1970 too like before that she was i dream of genie shit yeah yeah

she's blonde she's statuesque there's also a cool 1968 wrestling review magazine with her on the cover and it says evelyn stevens and she's got somebody in a chin lock and her hair is all crazy and it says blonde bombshell from texas it's pretty fucking cool i want this man i'm gonna buy this i think it's a cool magazine it's fucking cool man and then um also you definitely take a look for if you want to hear crazy wrestling stories my life in wrestling with a little help from my friends by gary hart is also something you need to find yourself a hold of that is evelyn stevens everybody evelyn jardine regal rigel and one fucking hell of a crazy story wow lady wrestling man the craziest shit going so i i i'm surprised to be on i'm very surprised that there aren't more

of these that are just like this you know i mean identical absolutely yeah you get two jacked up people living in the same fucking house that are both physical yeah and then opinions and shit yeah like sally and ray like right just like these two i mean yeah it's shoulders it's your weak ass shoulders big fucking i'm not developed underdeveloped shoulders that's what i wonder if that was the beef here too maybe that's do you know they didn't mention that once in that netflix documentary i know not once how are you not gonna met it kept coming up they can't i look at gripe with her I did the fucking research trust me it kept coming up his biggest complaint was her tiny bit shoulders he would complain to other

people about her shoulders that's how bad it was to hurt other people it was really a conversation it's so weird I was like man bring that up somewhere don't show me your meth fueled son I want to see I want to hear all about all the shit ray said to you that's why you listen to crime and sports right there for the good stuff

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We'll play the whole interview. That way we can react to it and stuff. Yes. We'll'll play that whole thing i'll play it for you and we'll talk about it and you'll be able to hear it he's a mess this guy it's an interview with a homeless man i guess a hitchhiker kind of a wanderer he claims it's about three minutes after he murders a man with a fucking hatchet in the street. In traffic. Defending other people, apparently, and becomes this national hero because he's such a weirdo. And then three weeks later, he ends up in prison for a horrific act. It's amazing.

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Look for that, where we talk about reviews. As you know, if you listen to Small Town Murder, we do town reviews. And then we branch that out on patreon into reviews of everything and uh we would do episodes like that and they're some of the best received and most beloved episodes and we said that's where we have the most fun so we're gonna do it yeah any like i said it could be the diner at the newark airport a sleazy motel with somebody's court schedule drawn on the wall and bloody razors laying around and shit in rural Missouri. It might be a cross-stitching class in Salt Lake City, Utah.

Who knows? But we'll read the reviews because the internet is all reviews and we'll talk all about it. It's going to be amazing. We cannot wait for this show to start. It's going to start late February, early March. We'll have a date for you, but get ready for it. We cannot wait. That said, Jimmy, I think I want to hear the names of the people who would never, ever, ever make fun of our underdeveloped shoulders or toss us over a hotel desk and through a play class window.

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His balls are swollen, though. That's the only problem. His balls are swollen until they're going to pop. And, of course, Jordan Bennett. Thank you, guys. Thank you, Jordan. For everything you do. Her balls also swollen right up.

Other producers this week are Hannah Escaldarone, Stan the Lariat Hanson, Rabbi Smolovich, and Shida Perlman's anniversary. Congratulations. Congrats. Wow. Who is Stan the Lariat? Is he aitta Perlman's anniversary. Congratulations. Congrats. Wow. Who is Stan the Lariat? Is he a wrestler? He's a wrestler.

Oh, yeah. He's a wrestler. Former AWA champion. Also, Regina Breiholtz, Colm Alexander, A-Stay Bearcat. I don't know what that is. I don't know. It's a foreign name. It's got weird characters.

I can't. Oh, cool. A-Stay Bearcat is their name thanks Bearcat from an American happy hour checking in in Wright, Wyoming Janice Hill, Finn Jeremy Tracy Smith, Carmen

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