Crime in Sports - #342 - A Man Of Violence - Brandon Browner

Episode Date: February 14, 2023

This week, we look at a man who was can best described as equal parts violence, and desire. He fought his way to the NFL, and all the way to being a Super Bowl trivia answer & a member of the "Legion of Boom", but along the way, everything seemed to fall apart. It started with a drug charge, but ends up with an increasingly dangerous & violent streak, directed mainly toward his ex girlfriend, and her family. He takes it to a serious extreme, causing himself to face a possibility of life in prison! A wild ride of a story, and a crazy "where are they, now?"!!Fight your way from Canada to the NFL, be one of only 7 people on earth to do a particular thing, and break into your ex's house, through a window, and cause mass havoc!!Check us out, every Tuesday! We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!!  Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman  Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail]  Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com  Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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So that's how that goes there. So that said, I think it's time to get into this. We have some crazy shit here for you guys. Let's do it. We're going NFL today. Hey. You know, in honor of the Super Bowl. We're going to go NFL.

I love it, yeah. And we are going to talk about Brandon Browner. Remember him? No. You're good for the Browns. No. he's one of the legion of boom guys from seattle remember it was browner cam chancellor remember that whole group i was he a lineman he's a cornerback oh so it was him and him and sherman and oh wow that's he was one of the big guys there and then he played for new england and won the super bowl too. We'll talk all about him. Yeah, I can't believe.

That's hilarious that you don't remember this guy. Less than 10 years ago, he was in all these Super Bowls. He probably beat Denver. I'm sure, many times. Brandon Kemar Browner, K-E-M-A-R is the middle name there. He is born August 2nd, 1984. So young guy still here, not too old. Born in Los Angeles, raised in Los Angeles.

He is an L.A. guy. Now, his childhood, he's got some issues in his childhood, and it's mainly early on. Not him, but his family. Comes up in a tough family here. But he grew up when you and I grew up. And when L.A. was kind of, I mean, it was known for some gangster parts. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, he doesn't grow up that well either.

I mean, he's got his mom and dad. It's his mom, very strict, which we'll find out you kind of have to be when you have this amount of a brood under you. But father, Keith, apparently, from what I understand, was in and out of the prison system. So he was, yeah, he got dad who's in and out of stuff doing some shady shit possibly. And at home, there's an article from his high school years where they say at home he has one sister brianna and a brother ronnell who's 11 okay that's what they say at the time but he also has 15 other brothers and sisters apparently oh so they didn't lie they just left a lot i don't know if they were the only ones living at that home that he was in or what 15 others but there are 17 brothers and sisters so 18 total children apparently between

the mother and the father holy shit i don't know who are stepbrothers stepsisters who lives there who doesn't who's 26 you know what i mean we didn't plan any of this right this is a fucking yeah it's a lot of kids though it's a lot so yeah brandon he see he's an angry guy. I'm just going to say that. He is an angry, angry cat, man. And it showed in his football because he's a hard hitter. For a cornerback, he's a real hard hitter. Cornerback. Corner, corner, yeah.

He's a real hard hitter. He's 6'4", you know, he's 210 pounds. He's a big guy for a corner. He's not a pushover. Is he the baby? He's a big physical corner. No, he's not a baby. He's not a pushover. Is he the baby? He's a big physical corner. No, he's not a baby. He's not the baby.

He's somewhere in the middle there because I think Ron L was the 11th at the time. He's the baby. So he's a real physical guy and he's a real angry guy as we'll find out from some quotes later. He really, really likes – he liked boxing a lot as a kid. Oh, yeah. Real into boxing, which it's – if you're a kid in the 90s, it was easy to get into because all of the lower weight class. Once you got past Tyson and Holyfield and all that kind of shit, all those lower weight classes were a lot of fun in the late 90s with Trinidad and Delahoya and fucking Vargas and all those guys. It was a lot going on.

The heavyweight group really brought a lot of eyes to boxing. And it was a lot of fun to watch because everybody had something different. There was personality and the fights were fantastic. Now they're not near as good anymore. That's the problem. I don't know why that is exactly, but the fights, I don't know. Heavyweight boxing hasn't been anything in 30 years, 25 years. Although I do like Tyson Fury.

I do like watching that guy, and I root for him. Also because he's a fat schlub, and I really enjoy watching him. I don't want to watch a fat guy fight, though. Fat guy win. I don't want to watch a fat guy fight. I want to watch a guy who trained really well and has a fuck, and he's ripped, and he fights another guy who trained really well, and they're both the best. I don't want to watch two fat guys who hit hard fight each other. I just don't.

That's what MMA is for. Looks like when he's done, he's got to check back in for his Amazon shift. Yeah, he's like, I got to go drive the truck. It's parked outside. I got like a dozen, 15 more deliveries to make tonight. A lot of prime today. It's all right. I can do it.

I got time for this fight, I think. No, I mean, he's a great fighter. I'm not trying to take anything away from him. I'm just saying, to watch, you're just like, wow, I don't know. I think it was more fun to watch Mike Tyson fight. Just saying. Yes. You know what I mean?

Muhammad Ali, you know. Just as like a people's champ. Joel Frazier. Yeah, yeah. The every day guy. He's certainly doing it. That's fun and all. But then you see somebody who's in

shape who'll come beat him it should be that's how it should work but he just he's a tough son of a bitch that's all all there is to it but browner liked roy jones jr a lot and in the 90s roy jones was a bad motherfucker i mean you can't he was untouchable he couldn't touch him he was like floyd mayweather but actually could hit you all, you know, hit people back to with some force. So obviously, as a kid who is, you know, built for more aggressive shit, physical, he likes physical sports and stuff like that. So he's into Roy Jones. By the way, I have to say, I mentioned earlier that he's a member of that Seahawks defensive Legion of Boom of Boom, which I really despise that nickname for anything. I really hate that shit. It's so stupid. It's very stupid. I don't like the wordplay on existing phrases for football.

I don't know. The Vikings had the purple people eaters. That's not what they are, though. Nobody ever called them that. You just made that up. Yeah, they picked it, didn't they? Yeah. You don't get to name yourself.

No. You know, the Broncos in the 70s, the Orange Crush defense. Orange Crush was a soda, so that was like a thing. Purple People Eaters was a fucking song, so that was whatever. Legion of... It's just annoying. Screw you and your wordplay i hate wordplay it's just the lowest form of any kind of anything of human communication and i despise it

was uh it was comic books right was is that what that's from what's the legion of doom yeah legion of doom is well number one it was the uh road warriors in wwf when they were there they called them the leg of Doom. But they were from, wasn't it a cartoon thing, the Legion of Doom? Yeah. I think it was comic book characters, right? I thought it was like the Legion of, I don't know. What the fuck?

I'm not into that ship, so I'm not positive. Master of the Universe or some shit like that? It's not that, because I remember He-Man pretty well. But I think it's some sort of people who fly, flying superheroes fight them. I don't know. We're going to get a lot of messages about this one. I'll tell you that much. I don't know why I brought it up because it's just going to be people explaining comic book canon to me that I don't want to hear.

That's all it's going to be. I just liked L.O.B. I thought that was a cool thing to scream. Yeah. I thought it was pretty rad. L.O.B. I thought that was a cool thing to scream. Yeah. I thought it was pretty rad. L.O.B.? Yeah, L.O.B. I thought you said L.L.B.

I was like L.O.B. No, no, L.O.B. L.O.B.? Although Richard Sherman used it like the dumbest time ever. When they beat the Niners in the championship and then he screamed how sorry Michael Craftery Crafter he is and then he just screamed LOB and walked away yeah it's pretty stupid he did kind of ruin it but sir you went to Stanford calm down relax your college roommate Cody is very embarrassed right now. He's saying that you're bringing shame upon the whole hall is the way he put it.

I don't even know what that means because I didn't go to college. You went to Stanford, Richard. Richard. So, anyway, Browner loves Roy Jones Jr. He says that's his favorite thing in sports at the time. This is in high school he's talking about in a newspaper article is to watch a Roy Jones Jr. fight. Nothing else gets him as jacked. He says, quote, he dominates his fights, and I like to see someone just get in there and dominate.

That's what he likes. So that's who he wants to be. And he started getting into Roy Jones Jr.'s fights so much that he decided he wanted to box too. Is that right? I could do this. Yeah. Junior year in high school, he started boxing. Okay.

Yeah. He started. It said it gave him a more aggressive outlook on all sports. Because you see. That's what you need. Well, yeah. Well, I mean, for football. But you see in boxing, when someone is trying to punch you in the face,

you have to punch them back. It's there's no, you better, or he's going to punch you even more. Certainly encouraged. It's, it's probably the best thing to do. I would say to avoid getting punched in the face.

I, in my opinion, I would say if someone said, how do I not get punched in the face? I'd say punch first and more, I guess the, the aggress aggressor not the aggressive not the aggressive he actually won both of his fights that he fought a couple two amateur fights was won both of them he said quote it was fun i learned a lot of new things learned how to play another sport okay he liked it. He said that he liked how demanding physically it was too.

A boxing workout's crazy. It's just crazy. You go three minutes in a ring, you think you're going to die. You go, how the fuck do people do that 12 times in a fight? That's crazy. You've got to do all the things to do to survive, include breathe. Just do the motions of three minutes of boxing. Just do that.

Just that dancing, the punching, the moving, this bobbing back and forth. Now add another guy trying to punch you in the face while you're doing that. Exercise while people are beating you. Don't forget to breathe. Yeah. And don't forget to breathe because you'll fall down. Whatever exercise you do, I don't care if it's Peloton or CrossFit, whatever you do that you think is really hard,

imagine that while someone is actively trying to punch you in the face. Someone who really knows what they're doing, too, is really trying to punch you in the face, and you have to punch them back. Yeah, so just keeping your wind is hard. Never mind getting punched in the face. So Brandon said, I liked being pushed as hard as I could. See how hard I could push myself. That's just the type of person I am.

I like to be pushed to the max. Okay. And we'll find out. He likes to push a lot of people to the max, including people that aren't playing sports. So he did say football, though, was his number one passion. In high school, he also runs track. He's on the track and field team. He's playing football.

He's boxing. He said, I had to get back. Football is what I really love. So he also joined the basketball and baseball teams as well in high school. What? He likes to exert physicality in any way he can. I don't understand how to be a parent of a four-sport athlete. That seems fucking nuts.

I feel like the only way to do it is to have 17 other kids and go, I can't make it to any of your games, so just tell me how you did. I don't know. I'm too busy. I got a lot of kids. I just don't understand the transportation. That alone, one sport is bad enough he's really good i feel like a coach will pick him up if they have to like he's he's real

good stop at his house yeah yeah they'll come grab him on the way because he's good they need him it's one of those deals so he played basketball baseball football and ran track and field so he did all of that that's fucking wild he goes to monroe high school for a while and then he goes to slymar high school as a senior slymar slymar s-l-y-m-a-r in la um yeah my cousin knew he went to high school in la he knew of it so it's apparently not a small school or anything like that but he's a wide receiver in high school is that right so yeah that's he's a guy who loves to hit and hitting is his whole physicality is his whole game so it's very weird that he'd be a wide receiver beforehand likes to make contact first yeah but he's six foot four

so he's a big tall fast guy so in high school i mean that's a dominant wide receiver um he he's in the los angeles times he is listed on his team here as the most underrated player on the team coming into his junior year yeah they said that uh in his first five games or his first four games of the year he had five interceptions that year his junior year of high school and he's uh he's really good they're talking about how he's got division one you know college football ability and all these newspaper articles. Yeah, it's pretty interesting.

I can't imagine people like us who didn't bloom for a long time. And still, there's still some petals waiting to pop here. Still close, yeah. We're still not there. Can you imagine the Los Angeles Times doing an article about you when you're 17 years old? It's the biggest paper in California, right? It's one of the bigger ones in the country. It's one of the biggest dailies in the country, especially when newspapers in 2000, when people still got newspapers.

Right. Imagine, and you live in L.A. I would have carried that article around with me everywhere. He's still got it. Guarantee it. So it's just wild just wild man to have that that must be so cool i'd never let that go never no never but it would be yellow and i'd be bequeathing it to somebody check to my children all framed all nice never forget me in a little

tiny frame because i keep it in my pocket remember i get a phone holster but just for that you know i had it shrunk down so i could wear it in a locket. Yeah. Different copies of it had it blown up, so it's in my living room on the wall. So, yeah, I'm watching that, and I'm going, Jesus, that is just jarring. It must be crazy for a 17-year-old. Then I looked right under this in the newspaper in the Los Angeles Times. This is like the high school sports section, which is hilarious.

Right under this article about the 17-year-old kid, there is the sales, Jimmy, the sales. Oh, my God. It's just jack shacks as far as the eye can see. I'm going to read you some of these ads. Strip clubs and fucking stroke joints and everything you can imagine is in the high school sports section. It's wild. First up, Oriental Spa. Sauna, shower, and relaxing.

What do you think relaxing is, Jimmy? They're going to clean you first, make sure your dick isn't filthy, and then they're going to jack you up. Feet up, drained drain balls that's relaxed feet up balls drain um oh no this is this kid has division one talent come get jerked off division one talent yes by the way this isn't even from the Los Angeles Times, these ads. This is from another article about him. This is from the Roy Jones Jr. boxing article. So this is in the Tennessee, and they're talking about him.

This isn't even near him. So these are all in Tennessee. Nashville tongue partlers. Yeah. Oriental Spas on Murfreesboro Road here. What is this? hana um it says nashville's most exclusive relaxation center don't buy weed here y'all wow relaxing is definitely the code word there for gonna jerk you off right gonna relax you it's illegal but will drain your fucking soul all these are relaxing or most

exclusive relaxation relaxation center wink wink it does make it sound like it's really like clean and like everything's white tables you go in in. It's like an Apple store, but then they jerk you off. That's what it seems like. A relaxation center. Everything's white, all right. It's white. Well, what color else would you have it? I mean, you know it's going to happen there.

It better be white. Yeah, you know it's going to happen there. Jesus Christ. How often do you want to change the carpet, really? That white glows under a black light still. Then underneath where it says Nashville's most exclusive relaxation center, there's a phone number. Then under that, in quotes, it says the ultimate in pampered relaxation. So this is a place where you, wow.

The ultimate. What the fuck else could that mean how is this how are these not rated on the daily there is one two three four five six ten words two of them are relaxation do you understand that ten words and two of them are relaxation that is wild very Very obvious. It's 20%. 20% of the words you've spoken are relaxation. Imagine if I spoke to you in every fifth word I said, it's the same word all the time. Relaxation, relaxation, relaxation.

I think you're really interested in doing that. You'd go, what is the code here, right? Like, what does relaxation mean? Why do you keep saying that, dude? Oh, man. Why are you so tense, James? I know just the place for you. It's the most exclusive relaxation center.

Right under that is the original private dancer. Oh. Okay. Erotic, not even exotic, erotic dancing in a private setting. So this is you can also get jerked off here. This is you go there. Yeah. These are all just you just buy women. That's what this is.

Then under that is divas, oriental divas. Like her name is Diva Div Diva's Oriental Relaxation Center. It's a relaxation center. They were so fucking obvious about everything they were doing pre-9-11. Wow, relaxation center. That is wild. And they're open. That feels like there's just like stalls with like milk.

Like the center feels like there's business being done there. There's like, you know what I mean? There's paperwork. Oh, there's business. Lab coats and shit. It's like a dairy cow business. Yeah, that's how it feels like to me. It's just, there's a line.

You go in. It's all stainless steel washed down milking stations yeah yeah like a like a like an outdoor kitchen so uh they're open 9 a.m to 3 a.m at the relaxation center so obviously for six hours to people going to this motherfucker people go in for legitimate medical you know just a nice run at two in the morning on the regular. That's normal. So right there, I think,

you know right away what that's about. Right away, I think. Right, yeah. This is wild. Then you can head on over, once you're good and relaxed, you can head on over to the Brass Stables. Oh, what's there?

It's a gentleman's club located in world-famous Printer's Alley. I don't know what the fuck that is. Free entertainment with ad, 2 to 10 p.m. Yeah, drag the ad in there. Roll your chair. Look at this perfect you're supposed to cut out this coupon you're supposed to walk into a strip club with a fucking newspaper coupon in your hand oh sir nothing less from a place called the stables james right this way sir have our best table oh my he's got the perforated coupon everybody ladies ladies gather around he has the coupon and they all come with oh my tits come out

the coupon at the stables wow how unimpressive are you at the strip club the guy with the newspaper coupon staining your fingers because it's a dark colored ink on the side. It's staining your fingers. It's September game night special free cover with official ticket stub, which is this newspaper coupon. Have lunch on us. No, thanks. I'm OK.

When did nudity and fucking food service become one in these strip clubs? I get that they want the lunch work crowd. Yeah. Was it very common for people to be like, I got to go to get some food? They didn't want to lose their clientele? So they were like, put it in a buffet. We'll lose that excuse real quick. Well, I guess if you're hungry and you want tits, but you have to work the rest of the day, you're going to probably probably go i guess i'll get the tits later because i'm hungry but if you can get food and tits i guess they're thinking they can

get it on the lunch break i suppose but i don't understand what i wouldn't eat anything more than like a sandwich very well wrapped in cellophane that came from the outside and i'd keep it wrapped and i'd like take a little bit off and bite it you know what i mean and then wrap it back over because i don't know it's floating around in there clapping their asses together and shit there's particles everywhere I don't like that there's food yeah look fun is fun but we're eating here this is a lot of ringworms in here and yeah pen up these guys are but sometimes when you get rock hard there's a little bit of some drip you know I don't want extra extra something on the tip of there between you know extra extra something on the

tip of there between the rub it on anything yeah the asses and the taints and the boners it's too much it just smells like it's a lot it smells like you know bleach and body spray in here and i can't take it anymore i don't want to eat in that environment no so um no cover for lunch free buffet with ad so you bring this coupon you're getting the strip club buffet which has been sitting out and someone will rub on you um so there's that the blue and it's byob here as well which makes means the classiest establishments are animals animals guys passing fucking dickle bottles back and forth while they stare at some poor woman's vagina this is disgusting that b does not stand for beer i guarantee that that is booze indeed

yeah um so we'll continue here with this here's another place the showtime show bar nashville's premier gentlemen's club um all the new what is this with this ad, you get in for free. What's with the ad? So that's another coupon. Then there's September, oh, Club Platinum. $5 off your cover with ads. Okay. So come see the one and only shower dance is what they're advertising. Okay.

You're going to watch a woman bathe. Totally nude performances. That's in quotes for some reason. Why is that in quotes? Who are you quoting? Totally nude performances doesn't need quotes. Just put it in capital letters, and if you build it, they will come. You know what I mean?

Yeah. If it says with quotes, it makes me think it's not. Yeah. If you take it out of your pants, they will come. That's how it works so uh september game night special free cover with official ticket stub another one of those so then finally the world famous they're all world famous world famous tiffany's cabaret never heard of it world famous because some fucking country singer

marty robbins jizzed his pants there in 1974 so we're all gonna world famous uh tiffany's cabaret the official or the original i'm sorry gentlemen's club this is it gets gross las vegas style review over 100 of nashville's finest entertainers i hope not at the same time was vegas the first place to pull tits out? What's with the style? I think it's just maybe Las Vegas has its own style. I think cities have their own style of strip club. Do they?

Yeah, because like Atlanta's are like, you know, they'll fuck you when there's gunplay. Shots ring out. It's worse than that in Atlanta. Like L.A. has a certain style. New York is a different. I think it's just a, I don't know. I have no idea. I'm not a strip club guy.

I'm not a strip club guy. I'll be real honest with you. I've been to several of them, James. You know what? I just don't like them. The constant is thongs, titties out. That's the constant. That's it.

I don't know what the style is. This is totally nude, upscale entertainment. Okay. Sometimes the pussy's out. Jesus. Wow. Now serving a full lunch and dinner menu. Thank God for that. And it says Friday, 1130 a.m. till 230 p.m.

Complimentary prime rib buffet. Gross. I'm not. Free prime rib. Okay. Now, I'm not eating roast beef. You know what I mean? I'm not eating that in. You know what I mean? I'm not eating that in here.

It's just weird. This is all nude. This is too much. It's too much for me. They're open until 5 a.m. on Friday and Saturday. That is crazy. So, anyway, I had to say the high school sports. Framing in, this kid has collegiate talent.

Collegiate potential and likes Roy Jones Jr. So he's an all-West region football star here. All-Valley Mission League selection. I don't know what the hell that means. It's Northern area of Los Angeles as a senior. He was Mission League MVP. Yeah, as a junior he played at Monroe Hills and he went to Slimar. He was a receiver during high school, had 1,726 career yards.

Wow. 24 touchdowns. And he was also playing cornerback where he had 16 career interceptions as well. Jesus Christ. So he was running both sides there and dominating. In the state? Well, as a senior, he also returned three punts for touchdowns as well. Shit. So,

he also lettered in track and field and competing in the high jump, triple jump, and 200 meter. Yeah. Jesus Christ, that's a lot, man. He's busy. This is so much activity. Here's an article I found from April 2000 where he won two events for mission when he

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I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... Matt, this is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy.

Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin his brother that's not him yes ma'am i would make a beeline for the door the emmy award-winning series returns how did i know that i have crystal ball in my head it's an all-new season it's streaming you can say anything. Judy Justice, only on Freebie. He was rated the 62nd best athlete in California, Hawaii, and Nevada. I guess they lumped those together for scouting purposes back then.

By Super Prep Magazine, having 16 interceptions. And he commits to USC in 2000. Staying local. Staying local. 62nd best athlete, not just in football, not just in – because you're going to have baseball players, basketball, everybody in there, huh? Everybody. No, this is everything. Golfers, you name it.

He's 62nd. And California is a giant state. And Hawaii and Nevada, too. So you had Vegas in there. It's a lot. everything every golfers you name it he's 62nd and california is a giant state and hawaii and nevada too so he had vegas in there it's right it's a lot uh he as a receiver he averaged 23.9 yards per catch as a junior oh my that's wild that's just ridiculous every time he touches the ball we get a fourth of the football field that's crazy his. His coach said, he's for real. Well, no shit. He looks as fast and as quick as ever, his other coach said. I don't think the surgery,

he had a little surgery, I don't think the surgery had any effect on his playing ability. I think he will be in the top two or three running backs in the area and could be the best. I don't know why they thought he would. This guy, oh, because he thought he could be a running back, he said, too. They thought he was going to be a good running back. So, anyway, he commits to USC, then a couple months later he said, too. They thought he was going to be a good running back. So anyway, he commits to USC.

Then a couple months later, changes his mind, doesn't want to go to USC, ends up going to Oregon State. Is that right? Yes, which is weird. Those USC teams were 2002 to 2005. That's their big window there. Going to OSU? Why? Went to OSU.

I don't know what it is. Probably because there's a lot of competition at USC, and you're not going to be able to start probably maybe until you're a junior. And I think probably at OSU, maybe at a little, they probably said, we will start you. You know what I mean? Is this Pete Carroll days at USC? It is, right? Yeah, yeah. This is when they start winning national championships.

This is Reggie Bush and Matt Leinart and all those people. That might be why. That might be why. I think it was probably they had too much talent probably. And also maybe he wanted to get away from home. Who knows? Maybe, yeah. So he goes to college, goes to Oregon State.

Red shirts his freshman year. 2003, the Beavers are 8-5, and they go to the Las Vegas Bowl. Very exciting. Yikes. Where they go to the Las Vegas Bowl. Very exciting. Yikes. Where they beat New Mexico 55-14. And he has six interceptions that year. And one run back for a touchdown. So pretty goddamn good is what I'm saying here.

Not too shabby at all. First year? Yeah. He's third in the Pac-10 in interceptions, and he's doing pretty well. Once he's a starter, he starts every game he plays for him for Oregon State. Always a starter. When he's a freshman, he is named to the Freshman All-America Team by the Football Writers Association and the Sporting News in 2003. He was a Pac-10 Conference Freshman of the year and was a member of the all pac-10

second team so not even freshmen just of everybody yeah he's the second team he has played defense in college yeah no offense anymore he may have he may have made a big fucking impact at usc being uh oh i think he would have you know i mean yeah i think he would have yeah they would have looked a lot better he might not have played though he probably that's a big deal when you're a kid, too. You're like, I'm not going to play for like two years. That sucks. I don't want to ride the fucking bench, especially all the tensions on these Fox. You've been such a star.

It's got to be hard for someone to go from. I'm in the Los Angeles Times. I'm in the Tennessee and right above the strip clubs. You read about me, then find out where to relax. You know what I'm saying? I'm selling prime rib already yeah hard to go from that to you don't play you just sit there and watch you know and you're not a star nobody cares about you so i don't know uh he ranked ninth in the nation with six interceptions

had 43 tackles six pass breakups two forced fumbles and three stops for losses. So damn good. Damn good. He says he wanted to play offense, but they didn't let him. He said it was hard to watch the offense play because he said, because I know I can go out and make some of those plays. I know I can make some of those plays that go to these guys, but that's their job, and my job is to play cornerback, so I'm going to do what I have to do at cornerback. So he's like, I'm a better receiver than some of the guys we have. I want that.

He said that cornerback is harder to play than wide receiver, which obviously is you don't – receivers know where they're going, and corners have to guess and go based on hip movements and shit of where you're going. And your job is to stop them from doing what they want to do. That's not going to be easier. Eleven guys on the other team have conspired against you to run something. I have an idea of what they're going to do. You have to stop at all. You've got to guess. He said, at this level, it's very hard.

Someone tells you it isn't, they're lying because it's very tough out here, especially in the Pac-10. Technique has to be sound. We work on our technique day in and day out it's very tough cornerbacks probably the hardest position since i've got uh since i've got to college that's what i found sure so he thinks it's very hard he says that he uses his boxing skills at corner okay oh yeah for the initial bump you know at the line bump he says my bump off the line is a lot more aggressive with these guys it's kind of similar to boxing where you use your hands a lot more that's going to get him in a lot of trouble later on both on the field and off the field by the way using his hands a little bit too much um so he said that he he likes also the contact of

tackling a running back up the middle he likes likes that. He said, just making plays. I just like to bang bang, which sounds like he's going to start a song. That's like the start of a chorus. I just like to bang bang. And he's going to say some other shit. I'm surprised somebody didn't sample that. It wasn't recorded. Especially in like 2002.

I'm surprised Nelly didn't do something with that. You know what I mean? He's just going gonna bang bang so many rappers had like a an interview at the beginning of yeah yeah and then they just dropped the drop the words in there that's how it goes man why not drake could have used that for bang bang yeah i just like to bang bang you could auto-tune it put it up and down people drew a song bang bang for christ's sake uh he said i just like football football's a tough man sport a modern gladiator sport okay so he just likes contact here um he is all america in 2004 all pac-10 conference and uh looking up

looking great everything and looking great. Everything's looking great here. He is always the guy who faces the other team's top receiver in college. He had 44 tackles, nine pass deflections, and a blocked kick also that year. Jesus Christ. So he does very well all over the place. So he's looking good. Here's an interview with him from a newspaper here.

Quick questions with Brandon Browner. Okay. This is when he's a sophomore. What are your goals beyond football? He said, I want to help the kids back home in Los Angeles by coaching, getting involved in the community, that kind of thing. All right. What historical figure would you like to have a dinner conversation with? Oh, boy.

Historical figure. Yeah. Historical. Anybody ever in history. In history. And by the way, this is 2002. Okay. Okay.

Either Martin Luther King Jr. or Michael Jordan. Well. One of those two people. Michael Jordan was, I think, still playing in the NBA at that point in time. So that's highly possible. You could probably work that out. You're all American. You could probably, I don't know, work something out.

Sign with his agent. I bet it would work. Anybody ever, that guy. Yeah. Okay. I'd want to talk to Martin Luther King about being a civil rights activist and with Michael Jordan with Michael Jordan for his sports mind. Now I'd want to talk about the opposite with them. I'd want to talk nothing about nothing with sports with Martin Luther King Jr. He'd never see it coming. He'd never see it coming. Like, where do you stay? You like a man to man guy, more of a zone. I think

he'd be like, what do you think of the hook shot? Is that cheating? What do you think? Yeah. If you get a sky hook, it's pretty unstoppable, right? Okay. And then I'd want to talk to Michael Jordan about nothing but civil rights, which would just confuse him because he'd be like, I don't really talk about politics and that sort of thing much. And he'd be like, but Mike. Did you ever meet Medgar Evers?

Tell me about him. I think that would be fun. If he would have said that, I would have died laughing. I want to mix it up and just throw a monkey wrench in the whole situation. Just see the face. I want to see the look. Yeah. I want to see Mike internally melt down.

Yeah. I'm not talking about this. So Mike would be looking for cameras and shit. I don't want to talk about this on camera. He said, they would be good to learn from. He said, if you were stranded on a desert island, who would you like to be there with you? Who do you think he's going to say? My mama.

Nope, my girlfriend, Deanna Luano. I need pussy. That's awesome that is awesome what are your hobbies playing video games right now my favorite game is Grand Theft Auto San Andreas

it just came out in 2004 fuck it was great it was if it wasn't your favorite game in 2004 you were doing it all wrong yeah

it was great turn off Donkey Kong Country and blow your mind. Yeah, just amazing. But my favorite all-time is Madden 2005, which was the new Madden at the time. So there you go. What's something not many people know about you? Okay. They don't know the person I am for my mind.

What? That's an exact quote. They don't know the person I am for my mind. I'm a good guy to get to know. That's not an answer to the question, first of all. And that first sentence doesn't even make sense. That is a word salad right there. And it's been tossed liberally. They clearly caught you off guard with

that question he did not wow they don't know the person i am from my mind i'm a good guy to get to know uh next question next next question that's we're on to next week yeah and listen i don't think i would have been a great interview at 20 either, probably. I would have said some dumb shit that you wouldn't know what I was talking about either. So not sniping, but still. Wow. Who was the biggest influence in your life? Okay. My girlfriend, Deanna Luana.

That would have been great. Tiffany from Tiffany's Cabaret. Very relaxing. Give me brain just the way I like. mother brenda fisher okay she did it all without a husband i come from a one-parent household she did it all took care of three kids worked multiple jobs to take care of us and we always had a roof over our heads so yeah i don't know if some of the kids were older i don't know if maybe the dad had 15 kids separately, which he's in and out of prison. Who knows?

I mean, that's possible. Jesus. They said, what was your childhood fear? Oh, boy. What do you think? Being hungry? Not eating tonight? No, he said, I've always been afraid of death.

Really? Well, yeah. I mean, obviously. When you ask someone, besides death, obviously, besides, when you ask someone, what's your biggest, besides death, obviously. Right, but in which way does death present itself that you're most afraid of? How about that one? Okay, yeah, that would be. Death by bear, death by fire, death by shark.

What are you afraid of? You're really afraid of being attacked by an animal, aren't you? I am. Being trapped in a forest fire being eaten by a grizzly bear that seems to be your most your biggest fear that's why i don't want to go in the ocean it's why no it's the reason for a lot of things that i don't do he said i've always been afraid of death nothing happened or anything like that i've just always been afraid of death oh well yeah what else what i'd say

besides death what's your fear in life since death is something we all share in your youth certainly for sure it frightens you because you're like oh my god it take this life for granted yeah but when you're a kid you go that'll never happen to me though right good yeah i'm i'm fine i'm not that's he didn't follow up that question they just left it that's it uh the the reporter cliff kirkpatrick just said what good enough for me solid answer we'll leave it at that i don't know if he was like running off the practice field with his helmet under his arm while he was hitting him with these questions that would make sense for they don't know the person I am for my mind as he's running by. That would make sense.

What's your pet peeve? Players who give up. Players who don't try hard and players who whine. That's his pet peeve. At the combine, he is 6'3.5", 221 pounds. That's a big corner. That's a lot of cornerback right there.

32 and whatever his length and his hands don't matter. 40-yard dash, 4.68, which is not great for a cornerback. No, it's not. It's a little slow. That's a slow corner, more of a safety type of speed here. What else here? Vertical jump, 36-and-a-half-inch vertical jump. That's good.

That's not bad. That's not bad for a big man like that. It's pretty good. Yeah. And bench press, I think it's 225 pounds, 13 reps. So not bad. Jimmy, 2005 NFL draft, number one overall pick is? Matt Weiner?

No. No. No, I think he was like. It's a quarterback, though, right? When he went, he was like sixth or 11th. Was it Jadavian Clowney? 11th to the Cardinals. 11th to the Cardinals, I want to say.

Was it Clowney in 2005? It is Alex Smith. Oh, my, really? It is Alex Smith, yeah. This is the draft that Aaron Rodgers was supposed to go maybe one, maybe three, but no lower than five. And then every time they drafted someone, they'd cut to him getting sadder and sadder.

Remember that? Sad Aaron Rodgers, sadder Aaron Rodgers remember that sad aaron rogers sadder aaron rogers and then by the end it was just they're like what do you think of this they just drafted they just drafted a guy didn't even play in college last year he was bagging groceries uh before that he played for appalachian state for half a season they drafted him ahead of you how do you feel about that alex or aaron and he's just like you know you gotta you just never know where you go and uh you just got to be happy to go wherever you go and uh whoever picks me i'm gonna be thrilled about it just can't wait to learn that playbook learn the playbook get to work and uh

that goes i lost millions of dollars tonight i did i just i just watched about 50 million guaranteed dollars slip through my fingers tonight um yeah so several years you guys are going to be uh doing the same thing to a man called mattress mac every time a baseball is hit every uh i'm just going to watch brett farr for a couple years now i suppose so there's that alex smith what no cornerbacks in this draft because he's a cornerback al uh pac-man's the first one adam pac-man jones the first one antrell roll carlos rogers there's a bunch of them in here uh all together though browner's not drafted at all is that right he's not drafted and a lot of, there's a lot of guys who aren't drafted. Like the guys who get drafted in the sixth and seventh rounds sometimes aren't as coveted as the guys who the teams sign as free agents immediately after the draft.

Okay. A lot of teams are waiting for guys hoping they don't get drafted so they can sign him as a free agent and not have to waste that pick. You know what I'm saying? Browner becomes that guy. And the Broncos sign Brandon Brown browner is that right absolutely like i think the day after the draft they signed him never heard of him well that's because he broke his arm during training camp and the broncos waived him in august and then they ended up no one claimed him so because he's a undrafted rookie with a broken arm so not really

a big hot commodity yeah so they place him on the ir after that okay so he plays play him yeah plays it on injured reserve um they said here's an article here saying he'll miss the entire season with a broken arm placed on injured reserve they said he impressed the coaches with several interceptions and aggressive play in training camp and was a strong defender in goal line and red zone drills, but then he broke his arm. Poor bastard. Holy shit. He had it, man. That was tough. He made $150,000 that year, though. Not bad.

So, I mean, it's something. Broken wing, yeah. But July 25, 2006, training camp the next year, they waive him. Oh, done. So they get rid of him. So he doesn't play any football in 2006 doesn't only plays training camp in 2005 oh my god so he has no job he's just unemployed so he signs with canada he goes to canada oh my god the cfl signs, this guy has his route to the NFL is amazing. Like he would be such an incredibly inspirational story to people. It's like people who want to accomplish something, I guess, if he wasn't a complete pile of dog shit as a person.

Yeah. As a as a person, he's terrible. So he said that, you know, this whole time he's like he's sad about it. In 2007, he said two years away, talking about football, he said two years with no football, two frustrating years, a couple of workouts by NFL teams. That was just about it, just sitting around waiting for the phone to ring. I'm a football player.

That's what I do. I'm not a 9-to-5 guy. I'm a 1-to- to sixty guy which i think you mean zero to sixty is what you're trying to say it's gotta be to know me for who i am in my mind i'm a one to sixty guy i'm a one to sixty guy i guess that means he never stops he's at least he's at least trucking at one. Yeah, he doesn't go zero. He's always at least puttering.

Always idling. Always moving a little. Not a nine-to-fiver, though. He says that he's got a real sense of urgency now. He really wants to play football. And he had a son named Matthew this year as well, so now he's an unemployed father, which isn't great. He said, quote, suddenly you're a parent, you're a father, no income. So, yeah, there's a sense of desperation.

You wonder what's going to happen. So I'm excited to be here in Canada, where he signed, to have this opportunity. I can't wait to get out and play again. So he wants to be there, and so he signs with the calgary stampeters of the nfl james i am panicking for him right aren't you getting like oh no this i hope this doesn't work out oh my god yeah and he went he didn't graduate college so he doesn't have a degree on anything in particular now he's going to play four years in Canada and he's going to do very very well there. Let's see, interception-wise, where is he

on interceptions? He's got forced fumbles too. He's forcing a ton of fumbles here. He's really killing it. So, he wins a Grey Cup championship with Calgary in 2008, which is their Super Bowl, I suppose. Yeah, yeah.

They give you like a – you mean like a thing of maple syrup for the whole team. It's a big one. It's a gray cup full of poutine. Full of poutine and then there's syrup on the side. So he is all CFL, which is their Pro Bowl, I guess, all pro or whatever, in 2008, 9, and 10. So he does really well in Canada. He crushes it up there. And he wants to take another run at the NFL,

playing so well in Canada for four years, he's hoping someone notices him. And who notices him but the Seattle Seahawks, and who is their coach? Pete Carroll. Pete Carroll. Son of a bitch. I know that guy.

Hey, remember when you said no to me, you asshole? That's that guy I wanted from high school. Let's take a look. And that's just enough to get a guy to go, well, let's look at his film real quick. You know what I mean? See how he's doing now. Hey, look at him. Holy shit.

He's a big guy. I was ready to take a chance on that kid. Yeah, and that's when they were building that defensive backfield in Seattle. It's a big physical backfield, defensive backfield. It's big and physical. That was what they were all about. And NFL coaches love to, when they do get in control of it, love to put their stamp on things and get their guys.

And if that was a guy he picked so long ago, getting a chance to take a run at him now, that's awesome. That's huge for him. And also coaches are divas and they don't like to be rejected. So anybody that rejects a coach, he's be he's gonna keep coming back to you coaches are like comedy bookers reject a comedy booker they'll keep bothering you to do shit that it's beneath you yeah yeah it's because it's just the way it is it's weird so i hate to be told no by someone doing well damn it you must bow to me be my wh whore, too. Come on, jackass.

So he's known as a real hothead on the field, though. Really? Yeah, he's got a temper. Well, he leads the league in penalties committed in the regular season in 2011, 2014, and 2015. In the NFL? In the whole NFL. Yeah, leads the league three years here in in penalties so he's good like that 2011 seattle uh they're seven and nine that year that's kind of when it's building

so no playoffs or anything like that he does well though plays all 16 games they start him in all 16 games is that right and they said and they asked carol he said well he's not really a rookie because he's 27 years old i mean the guy the guy's – he's a man. If he's not a starter now, then when type of thing. That's a great point. He has six picks for him too. Great. Six interceptions.

He ran one back for 94 yards, which was a – That's a team record against the Giants in week five. So – or, yeah, week five, not bad. He has two brought back total for interceptions. So really good. A lot of tackles, too. Not bad at all. He has two interceptions in one game against the Philadelphia Eagles that year as well.

And they're praising him, even though he does a lot of stupid shit because he leads the league in penalties this year. though he does a lot of stupid shit because he leads the league in penalties this year um still uh a former uh a former seahawks linebacker dave wyman praises him and says quote i understand if you want to focus on the penalties and the downside of browner but i'll take that guy i'll take a guy that will stand toe-to-toe with some of the best athletes in the world body slam them when necessary and fight them tooth and nail on every single play given that we've uh in the world, body slam them when necessary, and fight them tooth and nail on every single play. Given what we've in the defensive backfield here in Seattle over the past few years, I think he left out the word had, I, for one, can swallow a few pass interference and holding

penalties on the way to interceptions and deflecting passes. Could it be possible that the entire tempo and personality of this defensive team is based on a tone set by a cornerback? I say yes. So he's saying Browners, the guy set in the whole tone of the backfield, he can lead our, our team as, as a,

as a, as a captain. He said he's the Legion of boom starts with this guy. He said, how many corners in the history of the NFL have been physical enough to get the kind of penalty that he got during the Redskins game? This is a compliment on a penalty, which is funny. He got so aggressive he got a penalty.

That's our guy. He said he hit a player legally inbounds but knocked him so far out of bounds that the referees flagged him for unnecessary roughness. Enough said. Wow. A legal hit got called for unnecessary roughness. He makes $375,000 this year, though, which is probably more than he made the entire Canadian sojourn there. So December 5th, 2012 here, though, or the next year. I'm sorry.

So this is 2012. 2012, they go 11-5 that year. Yes, they did. He's suspended on December 5th, 2012. We'll talk about's suspended on december 5th 2012 we'll talk about that um well let's see we'll talk about it he's got some stuff going on with him he's uh there's some things uh there's uh penalties there's uh positive weed tests there's um they'll claim the league will claim peds after a while here so 11 and 55, Seattle goes to the playoffs, and they beat Washington in the wild card round and then lose to Atlanta 30-28.

Heartbreaker there, heartbreaker. So he starts 12 games because he's suspended for four of them. So he starts all the ones he's there for, three interceptions, a fumble recovery, three forced fumbles, so still physical and all that kind of shit. He's suspended for violating the NFL's performance enhancing drug policy for using a prescription drug. OK, well, we don't know what it was.

You put a bunch of guys that have to compete for their job in a room together and throw one who's very new to this at fucking 28 years old. Yeah. See if they don't try some shit to try to stay on this roster. Yes. Well, they ask Olympic athletes. They always do it. It's been a poll. They ask all the time.

If you could get us, if you could be, if I can inject you with something right now that would guarantee you a gold medal, but it would take 20 years off your life. Would you take it? It's like nine, 98 percent of

them say yes absolutely they don't give a fuck about that so that's you're living in the moment as an athlete because you only have a moment really so um he's also added to the pro bowl roster as a replacement for the injured carlos rogers so really not bad yeah pretty goddamn good um he's good i mean shit he's a good player. Everybody respects him. He makes $465,000 that year. Not bad, but he also loses $109,411 in fines for not getting paid for the games that he missed for the suspension and he's also um on uh he hit for a hit on packers wide receiver greg jennings he is fined seven thousand eight hundred seventy five dollars for that so december 31st he's reinstated again and he plays in the playoffs 2013 seattle this is a magical year for them they go 13 and three they beat the saints in the playoffs they beat the 49ers in the playoffs richard sherman yells some dumb shit i tell him you went to stanford chief

and then they go on to the super bowl to just beat the piss out of denver in that my god it was embarrassing that was a bad game james i had to leave that game that was bad oh i know i sat there with my elway jersey on going, what are we doing here, guys? What's happening? I went to a neighbor's house, and some lady in a Vikings jersey screamed for the first snap. I know. Was she lost? I was furious.

What the hell is wrong with her? Bad snap. Peyton fumbles. Seahawks recover. This lady screams. And it was either leave or call her a cunt in front of her husband. And I chose to leave. Good God.

A Vikings jersey? I was losing my mind. I was like, you bitch. How dare you? How dare you? I have my entire life invested in this at this moment. And you have nothing. With your Vikings jersey. You don't care at all.

No. And your fucking Nate Burleson jersey. Fuck you. Get the fuck out of here, Nate Burleson. 43-8 this game is. Yeah. Bad one. Not good.

Seattle wins, so he's a Super Bowl champion, though. But there's an issue with this because he didn't get to play in the Super Bowl. Did you know that? What? He didn't get to play in the Super Bowl. Did you know that? What? He didn't get to play in the Super Bowl here. That season he played in eight games, started all eight, had a pick, a couple of things, but December 18, 2013, the NFL suspended him. Wow.

This is a big deal. Apparently, they erroneously reported that he was facing indefinite suspension for again violating the NFL's performance enhancing drug rules. This kept him out of the Super Bowl and the playoffs. But the suspension was later changed to reflect a substance abuse issue related to missing drug tests during the time Browner was unsigned by an NFL team and was playing in the CFL. So because he had played for the Broncos, technically he was under the NFL umbrella because he had a year there. He was missing mandatory drug tests that he wasn't in the fucking league. He didn't care.

He's in Canada. So they did that, and that's apparently what it was um and it was a marijuana test he was tested positive a couple times for weed too so his agent peter schaefer told usa today that they're going to file a lawsuit on behalf of browner whom the nfl suspended indefinitely after he tested positive for marijuana because he tested positive again then they said he had drug tests. So they were like, retroactively, between that and this, you're suspended. So Schaefer questioned the NFL's substance abuse policy, our program, and its testing process and the suspension, claiming his client was moved from stage one to stage three for

failing to cooperate with three tests. They said he tested positive and they called it a third positive test because he hadn't taken the test that he wasn't in the NFL for. Right. Wasn't even in the country. Yeah, he's in goddamn Calgary. Do you know how far out in the middle of nowhere Calgary is? He probably didn't even hear an NFL season was happening.

He asked a moose, do you know what's going on with my drug test? And they said, and kept fucking going. I guess that's the noise mooses make. I don't know. Taylor Swift is soaring high. Her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans. She's broken billboard records and made Grammys history, not to mention becoming a billionaire in the process. But along the way, Taylor has had to wage war, first by taking on a very powerful, very famous manager, Scooter Braun, and then by going up against the biggest live events company, Ticketmaster. Hi, I'm David

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He put it on a reindeer. He thought this was the right one. It didn't work out that way. It's not his fault. So Schaefer claims Browner was never contacted by the program to even schedule these tests and should not have been subjected to testing because he wasn't even in the fucking league.

Right. Can they test you too? Can they test me? Like who? I get that he played a year or was on injured reserve for a year, but by 2009, it's a moot point. It's been four years since he's been in the NFL.

What are we talking about? He's been indefinitely suspended for a long time by now you know geez oh i would have been well out of the league i'm calling josh gordon a pussy fucking lightweight what are we talking about they're suckers yeah punks they got nothing so uh Schaefer told Pro Football Talk in December that he and Browner would, quote, sue the living daylights out of the league. Yeah, this is a lawsuit thing here. He did accept responsibilities for his actions. Browner did and apologized while disagreeing with the circumstances. He said, quote, Although I disagree with the circumstances surrounding my suspension, I accept responsibility for all of my actions, and I apologize for any that causes any unflattering reflections of my family and the Seahawks. I believe in my innocence and will continue to fight with all legal resources available to me.

Go Hawks. Okay. Okay. And Schaefer said he's going to be a free agent once they reinstate him. Yeah. So there you go. Well, if he would have said go 12s, be a free agent once they reinstate him. So there you go. If he would have said go 12s, then he would have had a lot more back. Yeah.

He made $773,756 this year, but he loses $95,675 in the suspension. March 5th, 2014, with the lawsuit pending, about to be filed, the NFL reinstates him and says, our bad. Whoops-a-daisy. And it is reduced from an indefinite suspension to the first four games of the 2014 season. Oh. Which seems silly because he missed the fucking playoffs in the Super Bowl. He missed the best thing that's going to happen to him. Yeah, well, not quite.

March 15, 2014, he is a free agent, and the New England Patriots sign him. Oh, you son of a bitch. Always trying to find someone who's coming off a suspension or getting out of jail soon or something like that. Get a treat, babe. Yeah. So, well, not really because they signed Browner to a three-year, $17 million contract. Holy shit. They gave him some dough.

Yeah. He's a player. They gave him some dough. Oh, my God. They want to hit her back there. But August 30th is when his suspension kicks in for the season um so september 30th he's reinstated from suspension so he misses the first four games then he doesn't play in two games the patriots keep him out to i guess learn the system and all that kind of shit he ends up playing nine

games with the patriots that year um one interception not a not a huge impact on the team but the patriots go 12 and 4 yeah beat the ravens crush the cults and then beat seattle in the super bowl that's right that was the malcolm butler interception yeah that is yeah at the goal line with russell wilson 28 14 was the end of that game so he So he's on that team. Browner becomes one of a very select group of people to ever win two consecutive Super Bowls as members of two different teams. Do you know how few times that's happened? Consecutive? Oh, God.

Two consecutive with different teams. There's seven players in history who have done it. Is that right? Seven. He's one of them. One of them, a bunch of them are names that you'd know, and you'd go, yeah, oh, that's right, okay. And if I gave you time, you'd probably figure out one or two of them. There is one that I could sit the biggest football fan down in the world

and give them until the end of time, and they would never fucking come up with it based on just thinking about it, unless you knew it. Is one Bill Romanowski? No, it's not. It's not. But think cornerbacks. Oh, really?

Corners? Yeah. 90s. 90s. Corners. Revis played for the Jets. What fucking Super Bowl was he in? Didn't he go somewhere else?

The Patriots, I think. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Did Deion do it? Deion is one. Deion with Sam Fran and then Dallas in 94, 95. Did Dion do it? Dion is one. Dion with San Fran and then Dallas in 94, 95. Did anybody else do it? Derek Martin, who did it with Green Bay and Pittsburgh in the 2009-10s.

Yeah, that's one that you go, oh, yeah, I know that name, but I don't know that. Ken Norton Jr. with Dallas and San Francisco. That's a thing. Romanowski was a good guess. I would have also guessed Charles Haley possibly, but that didn't work either. Then in 2017, both Chris Long and LeGarrette Blount joined it when they went to the Eagles from the Patriots and beat the Patriots there. And then here's the last guy. What?

Russ Hochstein. Who the fuck is he? Exactly. hockstein who the fuck is he exactly he's an offensive lineman yeah who in 2002 played one game for the bucks but was on their roster yeah in 2003 he played one game for the pats but was on the roster that's the best way to do it that's amazing that's amazing by the way way to do it fucking incredible good for him that's what i said good for you man enjoy your two rings sir so 2014 by the way leading the league in penalties this year again for uh brown browner uh two million nine hundred and fifty thousand dollars that we make so that's fantastic

he's already your payday he's already lost more money than i've made and he's got a big payday he's doing great he's doing great um and he has to pay 8 268 dollars for an unsportsmanlike conduct against how much miami 8 268 dollars okay let's just say grace that's grace you're on that short list yeah this is grace right here man it's You dug your way out from, you know, you were unemployed. You worked your way through Canada, stuck with it, didn't, you know, get to say, oh, I don't want to do this anymore. This is too hard. The NFL doesn't want me. Stuck with it.

Stayed in there. Won back-to-back Super Bowls. Actually got to play in this one. I'll bet he's the only undrafted that ever did that. That's possible. I don't know if Russ Hochstein was drafted either, though. I'll check on him. I know all the other guys were drafted, but I'm not sure about Russ Hochstein.

If he was drafted, this will be the only undrafted player ever to win back-to-back Super Bowls. That's awesome. That's a great, great fucking point. But the Patriots waive him. They don't want him anymore. Done. Too much money. They're not interested.

So he ends up March 13, 2015, signs with the New Orleans Saints. Okay. They wanted some hard hitting back there, so they go 7-9 that year, no playoffs, and it doesn't go very well for him here he starts all 16 games only one interception no forced fumbles one fumble recovery um doesn't do very well here's a timeline i got here of of his kind of not great season with the saints it's it's wow okay signs

march 12th yeah j. July 19th. He makes a comment that he eventually wants to return to the Seahawks. Okay. Which isn't good. Well, you just signed three-year $15 million contract. You went, I'd like to go back to Seattle sometime. You haven't even put the helmet on yet that we're paying you to wear. You just got here.

Can't say that. You literally just got here. You really just got here. Jesus. August 13th, suffers a leg injury in the first preseason games, and people are upset. September 2nd returns to practice after the leg injury, so that was a few weeks.

November 2nd, Browner, wow, sets a record this day for, wow, 14 penalties he's got by November 2nd. He's leading the league with already 14 penalties through like seven games of the season. Yeah, half the season. Not good. Then November 8th, he gets into an argument with a local reporter following a loss to the Titans.

So he starts fighting with a local reporter. That's never good. November 15th, he avoids making a tackle so he could land a cheap shot on a Redskins offensive tackle. So he not only landed a cheap shot, he blew the play to do it, which is not good. Allowed a few extra yards just to throw out some pain that is fucked up um december 7th he gets in a twitter argument with shannon sharp december 13th ties the nfl record for most penalties by one player against the tampa bay buccaneers in one, no, for a season.

He tied the season record. It's December. December 21st breaks the NFL record for most penalties on Monday Night Football, too, so the whole nation could watch. That's nice. Wow. December 27th, he's booed by the New Orleans home crowd during a game against Jacksonville. Yeah.

And then February 5th, right after the season, reveals that he's no longer going to be with the Saints on Twitter. And then the next month they officially release him. Then in April he says, well, I was playing all last year with a torn MCL. So that was the problem. That's why I sucked last year. So there you go. He was rated. You know how they rate cornerbacks. They's why I sucked last year. So there you go. He was rated.

You know how they rate cornerbacks. They have everything is in numbers now. He was rated as one of the least effective cornerbacks in the league that year and received more penalties, obviously, than any other player in the history of the league since they began keeping the statistics. So not good. And the Raiders are known for being dirty. Oh, yeah. Yeah yeah that's what i'm saying this is he's a mess this is post bounty gate and everything oh yeah yeah still doing it so then once that happens he gets released somebody on this is instagram i think somebody

on instagram matthew z whirling were line, good thing the Saints got rid of your sorry ass. And what'd he do? He responded with Saints weak ass fuck. Ass, not as. Not as. Ass. Saints weak ass fuck. This is no punctuation.

I took that few millions ran with it sucka sucka okay yeah and get your weight up when you address me is the next thing he said which is funny yeah i'm a heavyweight you know yeah i listen to you tremendous so he's kind of a mess uh he also he realizes it that he's turning into a bit of a mess. He's already feeding the trolls, though, James. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's already doing it. It's certainly over.

He's too famous for that. He did make $5,048,601 that year, though. Being the least productive in the history. So not bad. He said, quote, I noticed my life start to spiral downward. I saw the turning point in my career. I got older and the younger cats in the league

started to take a toll on me. It started to have a mental effect on me too. Yeah, you think you're not good enough anymore and that's why you get penalties. That's a lot of times. When a cornerback starts getting penalties like that's when you move them to safety, and then if they still get penalties, that's when there's no really where else for them to go.

The penalties are because they can't keep up with what's going on. That's the penalties. He's not stupid. He knows what's illegal, but when a guy's blowing by him, he'd rather hold him than fucking let him run by him and catch an interception or catch a touchdown passer so that's kind of how it goes and then just some things he he's a he likes to be violent so sometimes he just makes dumb tackles that are too hard so uh you get beat and we get beat all day long oh my god the

frustration has to be incredible i'd want to blast somebody insane yeah oh how the hell would you not um he also has uh he's fined eight thousand something dollars this year as well for an excessive face mask penalty that he had that year so they release him like we said in march april 18th 2016 what do you think happens, Jimmy? He retires. Mm-mm. What? No. He is signed by the Seattle Seahawks. Yep.

Oh, my God. Going to do it. Full circle. Signs a veteran minimum salary. So that deal that they have as an exemption. $760,000 with the Saints and reforming the Legion legion of boom pete carroll said he said though browner's going to play a different role than last time he's going to be a hybrid safety corner linebacker in the nickel package he's going to be he's a vers he looks at him as a

versatile guy in a nickel package if he's minimally and uh this team is falling apart rapidly exactly he looks at him as a guy in the nickel package. If the other team ends up running, he can come up and stop the run, or he can cover a guy if necessary. He's big enough to cover tight ends, and it's a little nostalgia. Exactly. It'll keep that jersey you bought. It's still relevant.

No shit. The ugly one with the fucking road with the road safety green on it are the seahawks worried about like a mac truck bearing down on the playing field or something what are they why are why are they wearing reflective colors i don't know what the color choice was hell is wrong with that it's so weird that's me with a who enjoys a team that wears uh eye searing orange the official color there eye sear orange yeah and still that yeah that fucking safety rep yellow is wow it's terrible green it's weird is that green green i think it's green i can't look at it long enough to determine you know

what it is jimmy chartreuse we've talked about this before so we're gonna call it chartreuse you're chartreuse and blue you chartreuse ass motherfucker so people i need to know me who i am in my mind He signs with them to reinvigorate the defense. Yes. And so that's April. So July, when training camp is going on, he's got other things going on. He is under investigation by Pomona, California police after an assault allegation was made against him. According to a police report here, police responded to a call to a residence about 8 o'clock. And when they got there, they found out that Browner had assaulted the father of his child's mother.

Fantastic. Grandfather. Yeah, his baby's grandfather. He assaulted this man. Oh, my. The argument between the two men was in the driveway of the house. Browner assaulted him and then left the scene in his white Bentley. That's a pretty solid day.

Yep, that's not a bad day. There's countless times I wanted to punch my ex-wife's dad right in the fucking face. But I would not have had the luxury of jumping into a Bentley. Yeah, just cruising off. Take that, that motherfucker and cruise off in your bentley watch the taillights of my bentley disappear he didn't understand who i was in my mind that's the thing i showed him i showed him so he uh he said that they were the victim says they were arguing and browner just became violent and attacked him in the driveway um so

took off they said that they fired a filed a police report and the guy claims injuries and all that all of this is tmz was like the only people to get this this was under it was under the written this a couple of things he did didn't come out for like two months after it happened it's really weird and then eventually finally tmz was the one that broke them so tmz loves violent athletes, though. They fucking love them. Oh, yeah, yeah. They love that shit. They love that shit.

They love that shit. It's divisive, too. Yeah, it's their favorite. So let's do an In Their Own Words about having him explain what's happened to his life. What's happened? What the fuck is wrong with you? Let's figure it out here because it's funny. Let's do In Their Own Words.

Because it's funny. Let's do, in their own words, quote, You don't realize the good in your life until it crash or fall away. He said, My significant other experienced the worst side of me. I didn't realize the damage I was causing her because I used to pacify her with things, with money, gifts, and credit cards for shopping sprees. But a person get tired of being mistreated i tried so hard to keep up

yeah he well a person get tired of being mistreated jimmy that's that's the bottom line these are this is an exact quote from the newspaper i'm not being who's being mistreated his his i, his ex. He said, I didn't realize the damage I was causing. Yeah, my significant other experienced the worst side of me. Poor thing. She got a credit card. And money and gifts.

Well, she's got other things, as we'll talk about, too. He said that his mental imbalances at this point, the wealth that he had out of nowhere. Yeah. All this shit has added up into kind of an arrogance that got him to take for granted the things that were important specifically he thought they would be there forever is that what he's saying i think so i think he took it all for granted um but they say he will not face assault charges on this though investigation reportedly ended without any charges there.

Their witnesses said that the, I guess the witnesses to the incident became uncooperative as authorities tried to continue the investigation. In other words, he said, tell your dad, I'll give him 10 grand if he shuts the fuck up. Yeah.

Allegedly or in my opinion. And they said, sure, why not? And that's the end of it. I think probably probably would happen. Tell him this is going to get way worse if he doesn't shut up. Or him and his girlfriend made up,

and then that's what happens a lot, too, in these things. Nobody wants to press charges. You may have called Dad and said, hey, listen, I live in a nice house. Shut your mouth. Well, if Dad's an uncooperative witness now, what's the point of doing the charges if he's not going to do anything? So they said they never were able to locate or interview him as well. witness now what's the point of doing the charges if he's not going to do anything so um so they said they never were able to locate or interview him as well oh so he never even got talked to

about that but they were all this going on so the case is closed they drop the charges there you go august 29 2016 seattle drops him oh like yeah we picked him up on kind of a flyer anyway and now he's beaten up as no we can't have this this is crazy what's he gonna do here so family driveway fights no thank you nope they release him after their third preseason game like i don't think so here so um yeah he doesn't make really anything off of this so in his career because that's going to be the end of the NFL for him, nobody wants him after that, he made $12,518,357. Oh, that's nothing. That's not, well, yeah, that's not enough if you are driving a Bentley around. Right.

And giving credit cards for shopping sprees. Oh, my God. That's going to go real fast. So he is out of the league. is out of the league. He does sign up for and plays during this time in a developmental spring football league in West Virginia. Oh, what does that pay? Nothing.

It's a development. You probably have to pay to play, I bet. I bet you pay. I don't have the credit card. I got to get a job. I got a wow. I need to pay for my job. Hold on.

I got to go buy my job. Oh, my God. Where's the card? So obviously things are not going well for him right now. Things are spiraling. Could it get any worse? It can. Well, it can.

And May 25th, 2017, it sure as shit does. He's arrested for possession of cocaine. Oh, no. What? Yep. Arrested in L.A. for possession of cocaine and ends up taking a terribly weird-looking shirtless mugshot. Is that right? He goes from Super Bowl champion Bill Belichick can't wait to give you millions of dollars to a shirtless cocaine mugshot on TMZ. Two years. Looking like he did half the coke before they

caught him not good man all it took was two years for this god you're getting arrested without a shirt that's a that's another level of fucked up if you have all your clothes on when you get arrested that's one thing yeah the more clothes the less clothes you have when you're arrested the more the worse the incident. No shirt, that's a level down. No shoes, even farther down. You get arrested barefoot, that's a low bottom tier right there. Exposed blood in the mugshot?

Uh-oh. Not good. Not good at all. So, yep, he's arrested at 7.04 a.m. With coke? Pulled him over and he was in possession of a controlled substance and under the influence at 7.04 a.m. With coke? Pulled him over, and he was in possession of a controlled substance and under the influence at 7.04 a.m. They got him at the end. He was going home.

This is a mess. Oh, my God. This is not good at all. I mean, it just— What happened last night, sir? This story, there's no real crime in the beginning. It's just this climb up this mountaintop to get to Grace. And then this fucking plummet from Grace is like, he needs a parachute. This is crazy.

It's like Grace is a cliff edge. He worked his whole life to be a piece of shit. Yeah. It's like he got to the mountaintop, then jumped off it going, Grace! As he fell down. I hate success! What the fuck? September 12th, 2017,

he is arrested in Laverne, California for making criminal threats against who? Obviously, his ex-girlfriend, Marin Foster, who's the same woman whose father he beat up. Is that the girl that he wanted on the desert island with him? No, it's not.

That was Dej. No, that was something else. Dej Dwan or something else. So Marin or Marine Foster, the mother of his two children, by the way, files for a temporary restraining order against him. In her written application, she cites browner as having assaulted her on multiple occasions um uh let's see her list of injuries that she's received from him broken her tailbone busted her eardrum and gave her quote several black eyes obviously not at the same time you can only get two of those but right it's black guys face and head knocked her down

tailbone my yep also says in the in her report that browner threatened to kill her quoting him as saying and this is an exact quote uh quote i'ma bust you up i mma i'ma bust you up i'm a dangerous man i believe that and I believe both of those things. He was taken into custody here. They arrest him for this because that's a lot. At 8.30 p.m., he's just taken into custody. Bail set at $50,000 for that. He posted it, was out by the end of the night.

Picked him up at 8.30, out by 11. Jesus. at 8.30, out by 11. Jesus. So October 2017, despite his girlfriend here, Foster, going to court and trying to get this restraining order on a permanent basis

and saying all the things that happen, the court finds no basis in which to order a permanent restraining order. So she's going to have to file for a series of temporary ones, which is silly. So that's october of 2017 may 6th 2018 he uh he's gonna be arrested again here this time for battery and child endangerment oh boy this guy's fucking a menace, bro. He's dangerous. He's doing the very typical signs of domestic abuse.

CTE? Yeah. Yeah. Well, CTE that turns into that. Yeah. All right. Because this didn't happen apparently before. Right.

The behavior is brought on by that, but it's sick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's sick. Totally. It's sick. It's sick. It's sick.

It's sick. It's sick. It's sick. What he does. Cooling off period, honeymoon. Yep. Absolutely. Right back to beat the shit out of it.

Everything's fine. And then next thing you know, off period, honeymoon. Yep, absolutely. Right back to beat the shit out of him. Everything's fine. And then next thing you know, we're endangering children. Yes. Oh, it's certainly escalating. Here we get to. This is a lot, though. This is wild. Prosecutors allege that Browner inflicted, quote, unjustifiable physical pain and mental

suffering against a two-year-old child. What? As well as using force and violence against marin foster the mom what is happening dude this is a guy who's out of control like this is a guy this is this is he's spiraling this is spinning hard spinning really hard he needs like uh some jail or some rehab or he needs a kick in the ass is what he needs. He needs to stop fucking hitting women and kids is what he fucking needs to do. So June 22, 2018, he's in court for all this shit here. He's going to make a deal that will kind of wipe out a couple of things and kind of lump everything into one here.

He pleads. I guess he's trying. He's not going to, though. I guess he's trying. He's not going to, though. He pleads no contest in Los Angeles County Superior Court to misdemeanor charges of battery and cruelty to a child by inflicting injury. Gross. So he pleads to that. He is sentenced to probation, but he's already on probation.

Okay. So you can't double probation a person. This is an animal house. The next one's going to be double secret probation. And then we're really going to have to start having consequences after that. So he's going to be sent to jail for violating his probation. By getting on probation. By being on probation.

The problem is the jail is overcrowded because it's L.A. County Jail. Oh, no. So after two days, they let him out. So they restack him with another three years of probation, 48 hours of community service, and an order to stay away from Marin Foster for three years. Okay. So there's that. So, I mean, dude, I am scared for anybody around this guy and his wingspan because this is – now it's her, her dad, and the kid. Right. It's everybody around.

And the frustrating part is that, like, he has rights to be able to see his children. Yeah. Likely. Even in L.A. with these charges, he probably is still allowed to see them. But if he pleads to abusing them, he might not be able to. Maybe he's not but if he's possible ordered to stay away from her for three years now he has to involve other people to do the child exchange so if he is going to see his kids there's probably going to be a chance that she just fucking well shows up to give him the kids

anyway or her dad yeah well i think this is an. I don't think he's allowed near this kid. He might not be allowed him. Yeah. Because what he pled to was I charge as a battery in cruelty to a child by inflicting injury. So in this case, the child's the victim. Yeah. And it says he can't go near the victim for three years. Oh, boy. So I think the mother has one and now the kid can't have the kid either. So this is fucking bad.

I mean, I feel bad for this woman and these people, everybody, the Seahawks. I do. I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Brandon Browner, a student at the University of Georgia. Poor guy. Brandon Browner, owner at Fadeaway Barbershop. Oh, come on.

I love a barber. That's sad. Come get lined up by a man. Come get lined up. Don't turn your back on him, though. Brandon Browner. Actually, go see that man and get a nice fade. I'm sure they're wonderful fades.

Brandon Browner, grill cook at Lee's Famous Recipe Chicken in Dayton, Ohio. And Brandon Browner, student at, I can't even pronounce this. It's in Germany. Delman Horst, Germany. Certainly not him. Not him. Put it that way. July 2018.

What's he going to do? Where do you even go from here? You're not allowed near people. The NFL doesn't want you. You got to take a time out and try and bank on Super Bowl champions somewhere. Be a fucking high school football coach. Or at the urging of Michael Vick, you join him in the American Flag Football League. Oh, Mike.

To play for the Roadrunners. This isn't good for him. He likes hitting people. That's what I mean. Flag football for the Roadrunners. This isn't good for him. He likes hitting people. That's what I mean. Flag football is the opposite of this. It was founded in 2016 by Wall Street executive Jeff Lewis. When you see it, they play in shorts and a t-shirt, and they have flags, except the quarterbacks have these little helmets on.

They're not helmets. They're these little just like pads with no face mask, almost like a wrestling gear. But the ear flaps are just kind of up on them because there's no chin strap. It looks ridiculous. It's so funny. Why even put it on him? There's no hitting. What, is he going to trip and fall and hit his head?

What are we doing? It's seven-on-seven football, which is no lines. It's all thrown. Well, there's a couple people on the line anyway. Yeah, they have a go clock, which enhances the game of flag football. Wow. They actually have a deal with the NFL Network to broadcast games too. Is that right? Yes. They signed it right before COVID, NFL Network to broadcast games, too. Is that right?

Yes. They signed it right before COVID, and then they had to delay everything for that, but it's still in place. Look, it's nostalgia. You can watch Michael Vick play football still. Sort of. Seven-on-seven, 12-man roster, 60-minute game. Same kind of thing. They have two-minute warning and all that kind of shit. of thing. They have two minute warning and all that kind of shit. Field is divided into four 25 yard boxes and first downs are awarded each time the

offense reaches the next box. No blocking, no kicking, no fumbles. Kickoffs are replaced with a long throw off and there's no touchbacks. Stupid. One lateral per play, two laterals on the throwoff for punt returns.

Incidental contact is permitted. Bump into a guy by accident. What else here? Oh, once the ball snapped, the defense has to wait two seconds to rush the quarterback like elementary school. One Mississippi, two Mississippi. One Mississippi, two Mississippi. And then you chase the guy.

What are we, fucking kidding me? Is it sixth grade? I kind of want to watch this. I kind of do too. This is ridiculous. Wow. The quarterback will have a total of four seconds to release the ball or cross the line of scrimmage. Wow.

The quarterback cannot run unless rushed. So you can't have like a planned running play for a quarterback. not run unless rushed so you can't have like a planned running play yeah for a quarterback um all all players are eligible to catch balls except for the designated center who must stay on the spot to mark the line of scrimmage because we don't hire refs to keep track of that kind of shit oh man that's fucking funny pitches and handoffs aren't allowed are are permitted north south handoffs are not so you gotta like pitch it out okay interesting uh yeah so terrell owens was involved in this for a minute yeah uh michael vick there and um jesus christ the tournament they had a tournament to kick it off and the tournament was broken into uh single elimination brackets

with 32 teams primarily amateurs on one side and then they had professional players on the other, which seems like not much of a game. Anyway, he plays a game for the Roadrunners in Kennesaw, Georgia here in early July of 2018. What do they pay for that? Again, I feel like you have to pay the fee for the flags and the higher refs and shit i don't feel like this is you want to play flag football bring your flags bring your flags i mean if they

have an nfl network deal they should get paid now but i don't know what you're getting paid for that it's got to be a grand a person right it's like remember that's remember where were we orlando we were in that hotel and it took like an hour and a half for lunch to come in that restaurant and we were watching that weird sport on tv we're like kids i don't even remember what the fuck it was it was the weirdest thing in the world but i was like this is on tv what's happening don't put anything on tv you gotta fill those daytime hours you know sporting tv needs fucking content they do so right after he plays this game a few days later j, July 8th, 2018, back to the old Laverne Police Department here in California. Officers originally respond to reports of a male who broke into a residence through a locked window on a Sunday morning at 10 o'clock in the morning.

What do you want to bet it's Browner? Huh? in the morning. What do you want to bet it's Browner? Huh. Well, he did. At 10.07 a.m., he broke into Marin Foster's home through a window. It's terrifying? Yeah. That restraining order is still in place. Oh, well in place.

Someone noticed a man attempting to break through a locked window and call the goddamn cops because if you see someone breaking into your neighbor's locked window, you probably the cops mind your own business and all but jesus christ you know um they said the investigation determined browner physically once they jesus he broke in confronted her she tried to flee she tried to run away he chased her outside dragged her back into the residence when she attempted to flee oh my god he then quote physically harmed and made threats to kill her while in the residence

oh boy um during the incident wow jesus christ this is fucking bad he hit her he threatened to kill her he uh dragged her and tried to smother her in the carpet while her two children, who are also his two children, were present and watching. That's not okay. Yes, he was threatening to kill her and mushing her face in the carpet. Oh, boy. Hard, like fucking her up. Then he, Jesus Christ, when he was done with that, I don't know what would be done for him.

When he's finally done done he went in and stole her rolex valued at twenty thousand dollars a woman's rolex and then fled the residence well i i bought that for you i assume he thinks it's his but i bought that i'm gonna and i need money now so yeah there you go um he was located within a few hours of the incident and was taken into custody here. So charges are four felonies. No more misdemeanors. Oh, this is aggravated assault? No, it's more than that.

This is attempted murder. Really? He beat the shit out of this woman, actually tried to smother her in the carpet while saying, I'm going to kill you. I'm trying to kill you. So that's attempted murder. That's fucked up, man. With two kids present. One we know is like three years old at this point because he's not allowed to be around this kid. Attempted murder,

robbery, burglary, and false imprisonment. Not good at all. Those are not good. And two misdemeanor counts of child endangerment as well for having them present while this happens. So this is not good for Brandon. December 4th, 2018, goes to court pretty promptly and pleads no contest to attempted murder.

This looks terrible. Otherwise, what are you going to do? They have all this evidence of you. You broke restraining orders. They're going to fucking- You got kids screaming, Daddy, no. He's facing life in prison before he pleads. Oh, yeah. He's facing life in prison and being held on $10 million bond.

Attempted murder of somebody that has a restraining order against you. This is exactly what the Brady Laws try to fucking keep from happening. He's life in prison. He is doing there. Well, he's got to. He's up for it. He's facing it, yeah. So to do this, he has to admit to the attempted murder

and plead no contest to that felony as well as pleading to two misdemeanor counts of cruelty to a child in a negotiated plea here the prosecutor will drop the robbery burglary false imprisonment charges and so if he had not accepted it though he faced possible life in prison and he was fucked. I mean, even the kids saw it. It's not good. So, um, here is the judge going to talk to him before he sentences him here. Sentencing. Here's a,

you sir, right here, big time. In spite of this horrible outcome, I am thankful to God. You didn't kill her and the officers didn't hurt you because it could be much worse for all of us in this courtroom. Our hope for you, Brandon, is that you use this time to get the help you desperately need.

You, sir, may fuck off eight years in prison. Huh. Yeah, he got lucky. He got lucky, honestly. That is insanely generous. That is generous. If he doesn't play football, that judge says something different than, I hope you used this time, and I'm glad the officers didn't hurt you. He's lucky.

For sure. He's younger than me, James. Therefore, with eight years, he's getting out, and he's still going to be in the prime of his life. Oh, we'll tell you when he's up for parole. I'll tell you. Oh, God. Oh, we'll tell you when he's up for parole. I'll tell you.

Oh, God. He also issued a 10-year protective stay-away order for both Marin and his two children. Stay the fuck away from them 10 years. Like, that's a long time, man. So his kids are going to be like 15 when he gets to see him again, if they want to see him. I don't know. So February 2019, he changes his mind, tries to pull back the plea. He's like, eight years, shit in prison?

That sounds terrible. You think that's a long time? He thinks that's a long time, but he's lucky that this judge, in my opinion, helped him. The judge wouldn't let him pull his plea back. Said, nope, it's already done. Fuck off. Which I think he would have been worse off otherwise. So he was sent to the Wasco State Prison near Bakersfield, and he will be eligible for parole in November 2023.

So soon. Soon. There's no way he's getting paroled. He's going to win a scummy, and I know which one it is. There's no way he wins parole. I bet he does. You think so? I feel like they want a football

player like that they want to if he goes in there and says man i was really on the wrong track and prison set me right oh i feel like they're gonna fucking lock stock and barrel that shit yeah i i hope not but i i think he's dangerous at this point personally for me yeah i think he's fucking dangerous. I wouldn't want him around me. I don't want him out. I wish he got life. He's a fucking – and he's just getting more dangerous. Yes.

It's getting worse and worse and worse. So 2021, he's in San Quentin at this point. Whoa. Yeah. He's in a four by nine prison cell here. Four by nine is small. Think about four cell here. 4x9 is small. Think about four. Yeah, four feet alone.

Four. He's 6'4". Any measurement. He's so big. As a tall person, same height as him, when you stretch your arms out and you can't stretch them out, it's really claustrophobic, and I don't like it. Yeah, I'm wider than four feet when I stretch out, and I'm a little – Definitely. You're supposed to be as wide as you are tall.

Yeah. Your arm span. So he has to. He has to go the other way on the nine foot side. And he can almost touch that probably. Shit, man. So he said, being in that small cell with no room to even stretch out your arm, bumping into the the locker make you not want to ever come back to prison that should be more than that making me not want to go back to prison my friend

um brandon there should be a lot of reasons that you don't want to go back to prison that yeah that being probably down way down the list where he'd say all the shit and then he'd be like and this fucking cell is so tiny you know that too right i want them to know who i am in my mind man i saw shawshank there's a lot of reasons not want to be in there holy shit he says it's a humbling experience from having everything now to now sitting at the game tables on a prison yard. Dude, you could have used the flag football experience for this. You didn't need to do this.

No, that's what I mean. That should have been humbling enough. Yeah, I just played flag football for 14 people in the audience. With T.O. and fucking Michael Vick. No, shit. He was saying how they started an intramural basketball league in San Quentin, the San Quentin IBL.

He's going to be a part of that. And he said, it's cool to see that the prison officials got something like this for us to do. It's cool to see the good talent out here for us to enjoy. So yeah, he says that he's in prison. He said this is the first time

he's been in prison in his life. And he didn't want to talk about the case obviously of course not that's embarrassing yeah um he says that he's waiting by the way the ibl the san quentin intramural basketball league is having a draft and that's what he's that's what he's into right now is where he's going to go in the draft focusing on that he says as i'm looking at this draft, this is sad, Jimmy. He can't wait to be drafted in the prison intramural league. I need to be the most athletic man behind the wall. They should not draft him and then pick him up afterwards. That would be great.

That would be incredible. Then make him go play in Oregon for a couple of years and then have him come down. Just conspire against him for his jail career. He said, as I'm looking at this draft, it kind of reminds me of the drafts I've seen over the years. I've seen the new guys get excited, and I think of all the things they have to look forward to when they come into all this money. Oh, and now he's talking about the NFL draft after that. Cause they said, how does this compare to the NFL draft? Um, he says that,

um, when they, when they mentioned his two kids, they say, quote, at the mention of his kids, he drops his head and lets out a disparaging sigh. Yeah.

My focus is, yeah, my focus is on them. I do it all for them. What? Go to prison, beat their mother, beat their grandfather, scare the shit out of him, out of them, traumatize them. What do you do for them. What? Go to prison? Beat their mother? Beat their grandfather?

Scare the shit out of them? Traumatize them? What do you do for them exactly? I just want to do what I have to do so I can get home as quick as possible. And then what? Have another seven years you're not allowed to talk to them? What are you talking about? You asshole. about you asshole he says he said he needs to do as many programs as he possibly can so he can earn

the positive programming credits that'll reduce his sentence and make him a more attractive parole um parole candidate i guess to say um so there he is he's in san quentin he's living for his kids even though he's not going to see them. And that, everybody, is Brandon goddamn Browner. I hate him. Yeah, he's a real asshole. He's the worst. That is a mess of a person. Thank fuck for the L.A. system to actually jail him,

but eight years is not enough. He's going to get out in four to six, and that's ugly. Can you imagine if she didn't report that what the next step is the next step is he would have went over there and killed her in front of the kids yeah yeah or killed the kids killed everybody himself i don't know because the guys if he has cte anything's possible these guys his rage is on belcher you never know hyper focused on a specific person why is he so mad at her he he blames her for not having any money, doesn't he? Here's what I was just going to say. My theory is that he has no money because he's not in the NFL anymore,

and he's super pissed off about that, can't live his lifestyle, can't do any of the things he wants to do, and he thinks about all the money he gave to her, and he thinks of that as like that should come back to him now, and that's why I'm broke, rather than just because I'm not playing football anymore. I dumbed myself out of the league, and I didn't save my money and i drive a bentley around and i put nails and extensions on this chick all the time and yeah lex watches and fucking bentleys or

whatever the fuck else he spent on her that's your fault dude you're that's your fault yeah so that that's what that's what i think it is too i think there's a lot of that and they'll probably child support whatever he's paying for child support you fucking trap me into these kids and all that shit that shit happens with the guys that so they think so talented in the nfl and it turned into he thinks he's the best person on earth this will yeah exactly in the nfl i might not be the best guy but damn it in this house i am that's his type of thing so wow if you like that show let the the world know. Let them know what's going on in your mind. Yeah. And get on whatever kind of a person you are.

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