Crime in Sports - #343 - Cookies & Condoms - Steven Van de Velde

Episode Date: February 21, 2023

This week, we delve into something completely different, by discussing a Dutch beach volleyball player, who is accomplishing a very infamous feat, by getting an episode of this show, before his 30th birthday. Based on that, you know he did something horrible, and you're right. He absolutely did. He has everything a person could want, but that's not enough for him, as he also has to insist on being one of the worst people that you can be! Does this take his career away? Not at all. Partners will still play with him, and tournaments will allow him to compete. Like it never happened!Be from a place that's famous for eating the livers of a couple of prominent citizens, be 6'6" and able to spike a volleyball, and make everybody sick, not only with your actions, but your reactions to your actions with Steven Van de Velde!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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He means well. So that said, I think it's time to get into this. Yeah, let's talk about a criminal athlete. Let's talk about someone that I know you've never heard of him. And I know probably nobody's ever heard of this guy unless you live in the Netherlands, unless you're Dutch. I don't know how many. We have a couple ofutch listeners that i know of is there a beach in the dutch sure yeah there's what yeah they're all well it's all water there is it everything's all through there's water through all those countries up and oh it's all sorts of it's known for its water and its canals and its, the lovely beaches

and the, I suppose, I don't know. But this is a Steven Vandevelde and that's Van D D E Veld. He's like Van de Camps. Yes. Vandy Veld. Uh, V E L D E. And he is born August 8th, 1994. So a, uh, a young in here for this show anyway.

Normally, normally, normally you'd need way more time to fuck up to get on this show. This guy, you know, if someone's on this show, 30 under 30. Wow. It's bad. You know what I mean? Born in the 90s. For Christ's sake. How bad of something did they have to do to get on crime and sports before 30?

That's something. We've only had a few. It's impressive. That's a fast 30 years. That's impressive. I got to say. Talk about the 30 under 30. Forbes does it?

Well, we did the 30 under 30. There ain't that many here. No, I don't even know if there's 30. And if there is, that is a disgusting. That's the dirty 30 right there, man. So, man, he is from here we go. Cornelis de Whitlawn, Den Haag, the Netherlands. there yes there's two commas i guess that would be the probably this like the town the state you know province and the country um so i looked up i'm like let's look up where he's from because he's a dutch he plays volleyball he's a dutch volleyball player so we're not going to get like you know tons of background information on him and and he's only 29 so it's not like he has a

storied thing so no it's in a city. But I looked at a town. I don't know what the hell is going on. I don't know what's a city and what's a town over there, too, because everything looks like there's a fucking windmill. It's like the weirdest place. There's a tourist trap, too, right? Well, I mean, Amsterdam is, but that's only in Amsterdam. That's like I don't want to judge the whole place based

on amsterdam i can't imagine i know there's like hills and fields and i doubt there's like you know whorehouses there probably you know red light maybe red light gyrating women in the in the window opium dens and shit like that probably not that's probably just in the red light district in amsterdam so red candle district out here it's the red candle it's the red light district in Amsterdam. Red candle district out here? It's the red candle. It's the red wheat district out here. It's the red tulip district. They had a lot of problems with tulips back in the day, the Dutch.

So I did some looking up here, and I looked it up. And basically what I could find is nothing. Who cares about where he's from? I don't know. It doesn't matter. It's one of the organ, borgen, degen, organ, dorgen, bregen's from i don't know it doesn't matter it's it's one of the go oregon borg and deegan oregon dorgan vegan countries we don't fucking know wooden shoes blah blah blah um you understand all the stereotypes i don't but you guys so i looked it up and it

seems to be named after a a ruling family, from back in the day. So I find these people, okay. The leader for 22 years of this country from 1650 to 1672, I believe, was Johann de Witt or de Witt or however. I don't think. I don't know if they say it the German way or if they say it that way. Johann de. Johann de Witt, okay.

So that's de Wittlan. It's from that. So I'm like, okay, he was the leader. His brother was Cornelis, which is what this town is, Cornelis DeWittlon. So I'm like, all right. So I looked all these up. Cornelis is the older brother. So his younger brother was the ruler of the country.

Son of a bitch. That's always gonna be a something worse you know because if you're the younger brother like you should just accept that you're you're fine with that like i was born second i'm gonna lead a life of leisure and ease and not without half the stress of of this guy you know what i mean you're gonna wash my feet look at harry and william look at what the stress of knowing what you're going to be king makes you it makes you bald as fuck when you're 27 whereas the other one it's still not good but he still had his little red afro till he was at least you know 30 so because he knew he had no yeah it's pretty thin though it's pretty it's a oh you oh it's a yeah it's a wispy it's you look

through and you're like jesus harry what is that some gaps about it's it's yeah, it's a wispy – you look through and you're like, Jesus, Harry, what is that? There's some gaps, bud. It's just all – it's not – he doesn't have any, like, big spots. It's just all thin. Like, you're like, ooh, that's not good, Harry. That could all go away. In one day, you could wake up and be completely bald. I can still see a lot of scalp, sir.

That's a lot – awful lot of scalp under there. You know, so I'm like, that's tough, though, if you're the older brother and you're like, okay, I guess my younger brother's amazing. There you go. Their whole family, their uncle held the position of grand pensionary of Holland between 1619 and 1621. So they're a rich, you know, aristocratic type of family. Okay. So, Oh man.

All right. Their father was an influential, uh, just rich guy, influencer of this day of his day. And their, their mother, same thing came from an influential Dutch military family.

Uh, her, her father was a, uh, a Dutch military leader and cartographer so he made maps so you know that's pretty interesting so through all these marriages these very strategic marriages they ended up consolidating all this power so one of them could be leader of the country which is wild all right so um uh dewitt here the leaderWitt Johan. By the way, this is going somewhere really amazing.

Trust me, this isn't just boring Dutch history. I would not tell you about this if it didn't end up in an incredible place. Okay. So Johan also contributed to theories of financial mathematics. Okay. Banking? financial mathematics okay um he banking yes i guess he wrote a paper or a book called the worth of life annuities compared to redemption bonds what does that mean no i'll tell you this work combined his roles as a statesman and a mathematician and was discussed in the correspondence

between other people and use of probabilities he He was a mathematician at the time. So ever since the Middle Ages, a life annuity, like there's annuities now where you kind of invest in a bunch of things at once and funds were a way that people would invest their money. Really rich people. They would always do that. It's a, you know, you invest in the blue chips and it just keeps earning. So they said the state could provide a widow with a regular income until her death in exchange for a lump sum up front.

So you'd put it in and then they would dish it out to you with interest over time like an investment. So there were also redemption bonds that were more like a state loan. bonds that were more like a state loan, and DeWitt showed that for the same principle, a bond paying 4% interest would result in the same profit as a life annuity of 6%. So that made him super smart. I don't know what that means because I'm an idiot. I don't know shit about money or math, really. I'd like to have some, but that sounds stressful i don't know if not if i have to know that stuff maybe i'm better off because i don't know what's going on there i

can't that is sure low number is better than the high number i don't he just did the math and extrapolated the numbers over time and figured it out but i mean he did they said that the public this publication about life annuities is quote one of the first applications of probability in economics so he like the modern economics he was one of the first guys to come up with just the thing things that we think of is just a simple thing of just you know this versus that at the time they didn't think of it like that. He, I guess, redid how they thought about it. So he's the leader, Johan. Cornelius is his older brother.

So there's a faction that hates them and wants them deposed. That is the Orange Faction, it's called. They call them the Orangists. That's the faction, okay? They get all their money in in concentrate frozen orange it's it's all it's yeah and then billy ray valentine and lewis winthorpe are gonna fuck everybody out of it man they're gonna take these two down that's who these two are randolph and mortimer's now all i'm picturing now they're all gonna get raped on a train car by a gorilla. While Jim Belushi fucking thinks he got laid.

So I love how no one notices. They just let a gorilla rape a man for a continent's worth of travel. They're just like, sure, just have at him. Oh, he looks horny. Just have at him. Oh, he looks horny. So the DeWitts family, their power base was wealthy merchants and old money. I mean, that's who they were.

They were that type of thing. So that's what they were born. And there was another. They would stress Protestant religious moderation and defending commercial interests and that sort of thing. The Orange Faction was the middle class and they wanted somebody from the Dutch House of Orange. That's why they're called the Orange Faction as a counterweight against the. These are just really blue blood aristocrat people that have no idea what's going on at all. You know, at all. They have no clue.

Completely out of touch with the village folks. They have clue they never were their families for generations have been back then there was a a huge divide like i mean now everybody goes to the grocery store i mean you know it's unless you're like a you know i don't think bill gates or elon musk goes to the grocery store but you know whatever i'm just saying regular if you're just a millionaire you go to the grocery store somebody goes but it ain't them it's not them yeah they're not going themselves going i hear that uh i hear zucchinis on sale i'm gonna get on down there peaches are in season oh boy i can't wait so they wanted somebody there so during 1692 the d Dutch refer to this, by the way, it's known as the disaster year. Oh.

The disaster year. What the hell happened? That's not good. France and England attacked them during the Franco-Dutch War. What the fuck? So France and England, by the way, hate each other but seem to like to team up for wars once in a while. They love to bully folks. You don't get any more contentious relations than the French and the English.

They hate each other. They really do. But they tolerate each other. They understand that when there's an aggressor, they really got to band together in both world wars and they figure it out. But somehow you take them off their own little places and they thrive together in Quebec. Yeah, they're doing great together.

Still hating each other, but they can mix and meld. So DeWitt was wounded by a knife-wielding assassin on June 21st of 1692. This is Johan. So he resigned as Grand Pciary pensionary on august 4th thinking that would every people would stop trying to kill him if he did that but that wasn't enough they wanted his head here so his brother who uh cornelis who the town is named after they hated the orangists hated him the most they hated him more more than Johan. He was like, they really fucking hated him.

So they arrested him on charges of treason. They tortured him. Oh God. And he refused to confess though. So he was sentenced to exile. So his brother went to the jail to help him get started. Johan went to help him get started on his journey into exile, help him pack and shit.

So while they were loading the boxes in the U-Haul, That's a somber load. One of them's like stepping up on the bumper while he's got the end of the couch, and he's like, hold on, let me get, Jesus Christ. You know when you put a couch in a U-Haul and you don't have a ramp, you got to get up there. So they're doing that. While that happened, here comes angry villagers, basically.

Pitch forks and torches, and they want blood from these two. They leave all his shit? No, they wish they could just leave all his shit. Instead, they attacked them. This is the Hague's civil militia. Both brothers were shot and killed and then just left to the mob for the mob to rip them apart. Just tore them apart. I'll give you a here's a quote.

Their naked mutilated bodies were strung up on the nearby public gibbet. I don't know what a gibbet is. I assume some sort of post. Something elevated. While the orangest mob cut out and roasted and ate their livers. You guys. They fucking turned to cannibalism in the streets. Yeah, what is that?

How do you hate somebody so much and then you make them a part of you? Let's eat their livers. Yeah. What the fuck kind of. What the hell is going on? Open them. I want it. Is this how we think of the dutch no i think of the dutch is like a i don't know a calm blonde people they just walk around they

seem pretty they just seem calm to me there's windmill i think of a windmill and calmness because of a windmill windmills are calm to me't know. Marijuana and paid sex makes a lot of smiles. Yeah. There's heroin. I mean, these people are calm. They're not eating each other's goddamn livers over there. What's going on, man? I was like, wow.

Who knew they are vicious? Then some people just cut off and took parts of the bodies either as souvenirs or to eat them. One man plucked out and ate an eyeball what the shit yes um so that's that's what happened god so that's where this town came from see why i told you about math and shit to get to that they ate these people keep loading hurry cornells they're right there oh fuck jesus christ no i can't get up there how important is this painting we're both gonna die leave your love seat it's a piece of shit anyway you know you got it at goodwill god damn it let's go the dog chewed

the corner already oh my god so you know that if if i start talking about math it's going somewhere trust me that's pretty great that's how we get to steven now um steven always a good athlete he's like everybody he's six foot six so oh that you know you're gonna be a good are there a lot of those there yeah tall they're a bunch of tall, blonde. Are they that big? Jesus. It seems like it. He's a big, handsome, blonde, athletic, 6'6", live. You have to be a good athlete to play volleyball.

It's a lot of moving and jumping. It's really an athletic sport. You've got to be able to do a lot of different things with your body and have a lot of body control. And to be 6'6 and have that body control, it's like basketball kind of, you know, in that way. So he played volleyball. I guess he played soccer and tennis when he was a kid and all that kind of shit.

And like I said, if you're a big, good athlete, as a kid you're going to play everything because you're going to be good at it. So he's Dutch and tall and handsome and a great athlete. Grace. That's it. That's it for him. Well, he's too young. Say grace here.

Yeah. Now, I see in different places it says he plays different positions. And volleyball, I know there's some people that hang out in the back more, but I thought they rotate. But you rotate. You move around, right? And he plays two on – beach volleyball, he's playing two on two also. So if you're playing two on two –

I play the left position. Yeah, you kind of go back and forth, and then it can all go break down. It depends on where the ball goes. It's like basketball. Like you can be here, but if someone sets a pick and you have to go here, there's a switch, and now it doesn't matter. You're defending someone else. You have to be able to roll with it.

There's got to be positions, right? Because otherwise it would just be cheating. Who's got the tallest person in front of the net? I guess, but I see that they call him an attacker and a receiver. Okay. So those seem like different opposite things things but i don't know anything about volleyball that sounds like top and a bottom yeah that exactly that's what i was gonna say attacker and receiver really sound like i said you're pitching and catching bottom forever

yeah pitcher catcher let's do attacker receiver although attacker sounds like it's unwanted kind of yeah sounds non-consensual that is anyway i mean it sounds like it but yeah that's not good we'll call him uh definitely receiver receiver should definitely be that's the one yeah the term so he is uh like i said netherlands here um it says by the way that he still has an passport, which I can't believe he'd be allowed to have an EU passport after what he did. Put it that way. Holy ballsack. So he, from what I see here, he wins the Dutch national championships.

Him and a partner win in that thing in the under 20 division in 2011. So he'd have been 17 at that point. And he's winning. He wins there. Now, I have a list here of all the tournaments he's played in pretty much and his actual prize money. Oh. The prize money that his team won.

So it's him and his partner together. So they just split it, right? So yeah, every amount I give you, he gets half of this. And I got to say this. Volleyball does not seem very lucrative. I hope there's, like, a coconut oil endorsement or, like, a – You know, banana boat contract. Yeah, like the big banana boat deal or something because I don't know how the fuck you'd make a living and keep tan and in good shape and on the beach on this money sometimes.

It seems like that. I'm sure that it's lucrative to make those things, but I can't imagine they've got that much to spare, right? I don't know. Whenever you see beach volleyball, there's a bunch of people there, but it looks like there's like 200 people there. Yeah. But I mean like banana boat is like seven dollars for a tube yeah it can't be that lucrative well that shit they can't i mean it's probably probably sell a lot of it though everybody i guess like i mean you know coke is a dollar 29 a bottle but they it's a good point higher you know

lebron james to drink Sprite. I don't know. I don't know the formula and the cost effectiveness. You know who can help us with this? Who's that? You know who can help us with this? Johan DeWitt and his math and his probabilities. This is why we said we're idiots because we don't know these things, and he does. I can't believe how quickly that came back to bite us in the ass.

Tell me the overhead of Sunbum. Yeah. I need to know a lot, and I don't believe how quickly that came back to bite us in the ass. Tell me the overhead of sun bum. Yeah. I need to know a lot and I don't know it. That's literally, I think, what he was talking about, how to go over time and do all that. That's exactly what we don't know how to do because we're stupid. Finances of Coppertone. I need to know what they're making. That little girl with her ass showing, which i don't know why that's still on a

bottle the dog is pulling a child's ass out what is that you know it's funny children's nudity nope not really i think we'll probably put that on the shelf now i think these days right it's like the first america's home video a dog pulling a child's ass yeah and they're like perfect put it on every bottle it's gonna sell so much my god so i see in 2012 here yeah um is when his money starts he makes from what i see no money in 2012 wow professional he is ranked 17th and 9th so he's going up in rank but making no money. 9th? In the country or in the world?

This is in the Netherlands here, I think. His partner is Van Week, W-I-J-K. Oh. I don't know, but they make no money either way, so who gives a shit? In 2013, his partner is this is amazing that this man plays volleyball his name is spikers oh sick s-p-i-j-k-e-r-s his fucking name is spikers that is awesome that's so cool that's like a baseball player named Homer. His last name is Homer. Johnny Homer. No, that's amazing.

Billy Three Pointer. And he plays. It's ridiculous. Spiker? Your last name's Dunk and you're in the NBA. That's the equivalent of that. That's so cool. So this year he makes a couple of bucks.

We're used to talking in millions in our show or at least hundreds of thousands with professional athletes but i see i'll go down the list here april 3rd 2013 they make as a team 112 dollars and 50 cents for the year that day on the april 3rd saturday april 3rd 2013 at this tournament they make 112 so they 66 fucking 25 a pop right there that's not do they do that in dollars or is that like this is an american dollars this is in u.s dollars is it a check or is it merch that's valued at that i think it's think it's a bunch of banana boats. And one artist's rendering of that little girl's bare ass with the dog pulling her underwear down. I think that's what they gave you. I want it to be one pair of Ray-Bans that they have to share.

This is for you guys. One lens for each of you. One for each of you. I got two lenses, one for each of you. One for each of you. I got two lenses, one for each of you. So, April 23rd of that, of 2013, they make $2,300 that year.

Or that day. So, that's not bad. They split that. Then, April 30th, the next week, they make $2,750. Now they're doing it. $2,750. $2,750. No, no. $2 20 2750 dollars okay that's

good so now this these are all by the way this is these are in china this tournament so they had to go to china to make five thousand dollars as a team though which that's a flight hotel yeah i can't imagine even if the dutch are putting you up like to go to China. I'm not going to China for five grand. Like I'm telling you that right now. No way. And I'll take five grand. I'm looking for five grand.

Don't get me wrong. I'm not sneezing at five grand. But if it's in China, you can keep it. That's too fucking far. It's just too far. You won't get anywhere near five grand. Nope, just too far. You might take home $600 after that.

After all that's over with, and I don't know what kind of Chinese income taxes I have to pay on that if I win it over there, and then I got to pay them at home, too. How does that work? Am I getting double taxed here? And I'm splitting $2,300 with my partner for a match? I don't know. Then May 30th, so they make no money for the next month and then may 30th uh there's a tournament and they make 500 okay so again 250 bucks a piece not not great not a ton of money let's just say here is not the most lucrative sport we've talked about yeah um so then on june 11th so it's two weeks later

they make 2750 again so oh boy there's something now 2014 june 10th zero dollars did they lose the tournament or did they win and get nothing i think they lost because they got zero points as well like in the in the whole like uh i think that they do it like nascar or something there's like a points thing and at the end whoever has the most is like the champion yeah type deal um then june 25th though it's a banner day uh they're in i don't even know where the hell this is oh norway they're in norway and uh they win four thousand dollars that day oh that's the biggest day yet crushing it right it, right? That's good. Four grand for an afternoon of volleyball. Sounds pretty good.

Then they're in Russia playing a match on July 2nd. They win nothing. They're in the Czech Republic or somewhere around there. July 9th, they win nothing. So July 15th, they win $5,000, though. Hey. Yeah, they're in the Netherlands. They come home and they take it.

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are their next three matches zero zero and zero so they make 2500 bucks in july but then by september they still better have that 2500 bucks because oh they've been out of money for weeks. Yeah, that's a rough way to go, man. So 2015, they win the national championship. Him and his partner. Him and Michael Van Dorsten. Everybody's got a van over there. Michael Van Dorsten represented the Netherlands in the 2015 European Games after they were the national champions. So they did it.

Let's see what kind of money that gets you in 2015. Well, May 9th through June 17th of 2015, they made zero, zero, zero, zero, and zero. Five straight goose eggs. They are not doing great james um it's tough it's a tough gig i mean and then june 26th though they make seven thousand dollars at a tournament in uh in the netherlands at least the money is climbing when they do win that's yeah that's great but then the next three august 15th 20th 28th, so that's the next month, they make zero, zero, and zero. Fucking donuts. So it's feast or famine here, honestly.

Oh, man, this is worse than selling cars. This is bad. This is bad business. This is like stand-up comedy. This is like being like a cruise ship comic or something. You get a couple of gigs and you're like, I better get some more here soon. If I don't get booked, it's over. You know, one of those deals.

So yeah, his partner, by the way, when he's Dutch champion, in 2015 he wins another tournament to be Dutch champion, and his co-player, his partner is Dirk Bolle at that point. Then after that three days after he's a champion he is brought up on some charges

in England the English have indicted him or whatever the English equivalent of that is brought him up on charges and that hangs in the air until January 8, 2016, when he's finally arrested and extradited to England. Oh, they took him back.

They yanked his ass over there to England. Now, yeah, he's fucking extradited. So if another country is going to come pull you out of your country, you had to have done something bad. There's a question that we need to talk about for sure. You didn't like write your name on the wall and spray paint or some shit. You did something. You didn't piss in an alley.

You didn't. You didn't. You stole a car or worse. This is bad. Okay. He, when he's 19 and 20 years old here, 2014-ish and on, he had made friends with a girl on Facebook. Oh, no. Commented on a photograph on a person's Facebook account. And then they began talking back and forth here on Snapchat and Facebook and Instagram facebook instagram yeah going on all the socials

and um she's 12 when they meet though that's the problem she's she's 12 years old and he's absolutely she knows that he is well aware of it she tells him i'm 12 years old and he goes i'm 19 20 whatever he is at the time no problem they're talking um he said he was a volleyball player who played for his country and she you know so she could uh you know see who he was and she researched him on the internet to confirm that that's who he was she was talking to on skype they were skyping back and forth so she wanted to make sure he wasn't cat fishing her right saying oh i'm a six foot six dutch volleyball player and you're just some They were Skyping back and forth. Oh, my God. So she wanted to make sure he wasn't catfishing her. Right, right. Saying, oh, I'm a six-foot-six Dutch volleyball player, and you're just some troll. I'm a giant of that.

Yeah. She found out, wow, you actually are that guy. And she's a child also. A baby. That's like a seventh grader, 12 years old. Dude, I have one. It's a baby. They're a tiny child.

That's a tiny, tiny child. And they're so bitchy. How long is the list of things you would let her do by herself outside? It's so short. It's real, real, real fucking short. There's a very small time window that I'll allow that to. Yeah. Take the trash out.

Oh, yeah, there on on the property is one thing but i mean off property there oh there's zero how many how many adult dutch volleyball players would you let her hang out with that she met on social media uh let's see seven thousand dollars one month and then nothing nothing nothing and nothing not a lot One month and then nothing, nothing, nothing, and nothing. Not a lot. There's the same amount of them that he made in August, was it? Yeah, exactly.

Zero. This is disgusting is what this is. So he's talking to her on social media. You can call that grooming would be the best word for that. The technical, medical, I guess you could say, legal word for that would be grooming a very young child here for weird activity because there's no reason to be friends with a 12-year-old. Yeah, none. Beyond if you're a famous athlete or you're an athlete and some 12 year olds writes you a letter or an email or social media saying you're really cool and you go awesome dude you know you keep playing too and all that that's great that's fine babe ruth used to go sit with a bunch of kids and talk about baseball

and shit and they take a picture of it that's fine yeah this is not okay i don't think babe ruth would have skyped anybody i don't think he was way too drunk to figure out how Skype worked. How do I get this? I can't hear you. I can't. It's the microphone. It doesn't work. I don't know.

Shit. I don't know what to do here. Never mind. Bye. Click. Is my camera on? Bye. And he'd just break it.

Just hit it with a bat. So, oh, this is gross um it gets way worse um what so he's talking to this child which right away i you know whatever legal action you can take against this guy for that even as i'm okay with there should be some it's the whole it's the whole premise of of to catch a predator yet somehow those guys don't all get charges, which is fucking crazy. It's so dependent. It's dependent on very specific legal things, though. Yeah, I get it. It is dumb.

If they show up, come on, arrest them. If you show up and it's- Dude. But you don't know. A lot of times, too, though, and this is because I saw one case where somebody, I want to say somebody sued them or some shit like that. A bunch of them did because they don't show and I'm not defending pedophiles by any

mean but they don't show exactly a lot of times it's the messages that they're sending these people they're not showing them totally you know what I'm saying so it feels like you're defending it. No no no I'm saying that legally they fuck themselves by sending messages that make the other shit null and void.

That would actually get them. So they fuck up their own legal case is what I mean. It's the scumbags, but legally they fuck up what you can do. They essentially entrap them and that throws it all away. But sending your dick to a person that says I'm 12, that should be enough to lock them up for a long time. I think that is. I think the ones that don't get arrested hopefully aren't the dick people, I would hope. You should at least spend a night in jail for that.

You're getting taken to the ground and cuffed at least for that. I don't know if charges are going to be filed or whatever. That's up to the attorneys, but someone handcuff this guy, please. Even if we drop the charges, there should still be like a little tab in his file that you can click and it pops up and says, was once on to catch a predator. Yeah, he was on. That should definitely be on all your resumes. Your resume should certainly lead off with, as seen on.

That one guy that said. References Chris Hansen. that one guy that said that references chris hansen looked right into the camera james and said a virgin would be the cleanest and best thing i could get and chris was like say one word and it got him to repeat pardon Pardon? Doc, she is 13. What the fuck are you talking about? Are you out of your fucking mind? The grossest words are said by these people. They're pedophiles. They're disgusting people.

Yeah, obviously. But they showed up, and that's enough for me. I don't give a fuck. I agree. I don't give a fuck what was said. I agree. I don't care. If you're invited to a house by a 12-year-old that tells you they're home alone and you've discussed filthy shit with them, away with you. We should at least cuff them up.

We should at least cuff them up. I'm talking about when we're talking about a district attorney actually taking an indictment to a grand jury. There's certain parameters everything has to meet. And if you fucked it up, then you've messed up their legal case. There's that sort of shit. Yeah, there is still the air of opportunity of lying. And when you show up, it's a 25-year-old girl who makes fun of you for trying to fuck a 12-year-old and then you bang a 25-year-old.

Or more than likely, it's a 48-year-old man. or or more than likely it's a 48 year old man that's more than likely who it is and so i don't know if that's it but yes we should you show up you're getting cuffed i believe no matter what every time you're getting tackled and cuffed i want them to show up in the kitchen hey what's going on chris hansen walks out they get all freaked out then one a huge guy comes out and tackles them just blast them. Tell them you can go out that door if you'd like. NFL defensive MVP that year. You hire them. It's a big deal for them.

They come out and just blast. Boom. Full pads and everything. Just pow. Blast this guy into the fucking wall. Plow him through the drywall. That would be amazing. Hit him like a streaker.

Yeah. Up against the counter. Just pow. Condoms falling against the counter, just pow. Condoms falling out of their pockets and shit. That's what I want. I'm so mad at him for ruining that show because it's so good, and he just fucking threw it all away. The new one sucks.

The new one sucks so bad. Oh, God. It was great to watch. Because he's in his 60s banging 19- and 20-year-old girls, and now he looks like a jerk. Now it's all ruined. The look on those guys' faces when he would pop out was amazing. Because he's the opposite of an underage girl. Yeah.

He looks like whoever the underage girl's dad is. That's what he looks like. Like, oh, shit, it's just her dad home. Uh-oh. They all thought that. Yeah. Are you the dad? Oh, damn.

And then after a while, everyone knew it was Chris Hansen, and that's worse than the girl's dad. At least the girl's dad isn't beaming this to a satellite feed that's going out to NBC. He might kick my ass, but it's not on national television. One guy goes, I know who you are. And Chris goes, you do? He goes, yeah, I've seen the show. And the guy goes, oh, so why'd you show up? And he goes, you know, I had a feeling this might be what this is.

He's like, so why'd you show up then? And he's like, I don't know, Chris. And then the cameras come out. I'm a pedophile. That's why. I'm disgusting. Why would I want to fuck kids? That's a bigger question, Chris.

The larger question here is why do I want to fuck kids to begin with? Chris, let's start there and we'll work to. It's your ego, Chris. We'll work our way up to why I would want to be on your show. The bigger question needs to be answered. Why? And Chris blew it. It's all ruined ruined now and i want it back so bad it's so good good but he was like because chris hansen was like this everybody liked him because

he was like this hurrah he'd step in what are you doing here and then like snarky and mean he was snark well why'd you bring cookies then? You know, he was like, he would really make the person stew in it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Why'd you say you wanted to show him your penis? What? I didn't say that. Is this your penis?

You said, hold on. You said, I can't wait to show you my penis. Is this, is that you? Are you, are you, are you mighty penis. Is that you? Are you MightyPenis426 at Yahoo.com? That's you, right? So this is your penis. It's penis penis. It's all penis, sir.

Did you say I want to lick you? I love when they go, please don't read the chat. Yeah, please don't read it. Oh, no, no. We're going to read it. I know what I said. Don't say it. I know what I said. That's all it out loud. I know what I said.

That's all right. We'll put the text on screen. We don't need to read it out loud. Did you really tell a 12-year-old that you want to make her cum? Chris said that to a man. Oh, I know. I know. He would say that like, hmm, really.

Huh. Choice of words. Fascinating. Interesting. That's how he would say it. He wouldn't come out outraged would be the thing. He wouldn't come out like you scumbag. He'd come out like

curious. It was like just ponderous. Interesting. He'd pop out like this is like the most interesting thing he's ever seen. You know I got some questions. He wouldn't even come out like I would like hop out.

He'd just walk into a room. I'd just pop into the open doorway like gotcha. You know what I mean? Gotcha motherfucker. Yeah bitches. You pedophile motherfucker. You didn't expect this bass in the voice did you? Yeah that's right. Aaron Donald tackle his ass. Yeah get him.

Come on. That's what I'd have going on. that's right Aaron Donald tackle his ass yeah get him you know come on that's what I'd have going on that would be great and then I'd be standing over his fucking prone broken body being like did you say is this your penis sir is this your penis and just put it like two inches from his face

sir Sir, is this your penis? And just put it like two inches from his face. Sir. I'm sure it's blurry right now, but is this your penis? I know there's blood on your eyes, but wipe it away and tell me if this is your penis. We'll put it on the screen so everyone can see it. Don't worry. It's the greatest show that ever happened, man. It's so good. It had it all. He threw it away. He threw it away he threw it away he threw it all away gone that's so sad man that's so sad it's

the greatest thing it's like whoever hosts that show we have to keep him in a bubble so they don't go out and do some shit that's like what he's talking about don't ruin it all don't listen don't you dare fucking ruin this. Stop fucking your credibility. This is awesome. There's no one that you can trust, really, that you know is not. No. You can't do it with anybody. Mitt Romney's going to host it?

You know what I mean? Who's a complete dork or a Mormon or something? I don't know. At least they're not women. Mike Pence can do it. That's not political, by the way. That is making fun of him being really weird. Why don't you trust yourself?

On a personal level, I don't give a fuck about the politics. Just on a personal level, I'd be like. That's a very bizarre fact about you, man. If you were friends with their kids, you'd be like, your dad's kind of weird. He's a fucking dork. Dude's a dork that's all either way that goes for i could pick somebody on the other side and we'll go yeah that dude's a dork i don't give a shit it's not political at all so um anyway uh this is this asshole he's an awful man back to this particular asshole here. He's arrested, extradited to England, been commenting, doing all that kind of shit. The reason he's arrested, though, is because on Saturday, August the 2nd, 2014,

now to go back and look at his tournaments here because I'm checking that out, 2014, July 23rd, made zero money in a tournament. August 7th, made zero money in a tournament august 7th made zero money in a tournament nothing in between august 2nd he's in england oh so there you go uh he's in england hanging out uh to going to meet this girl milton keens uh canes milton canes keens keens Milton Keynes. Keynes. Milton Keynes. Keynes. Keynes. Milton Keynes. Yeah, it's a place. It's a town. Travels there, gets on a flight, goes there, and meets her. Okay. Okay.

Now, she told her family she was staying at a friend's house. Oh, God, Jesus. And snuck out and tried to book a hotel room but couldn't get a hotel room. Because she's 12. Because she's 12. Because she's 12. And he got there. They couldn't find a room. There was no rooms.

There was no hotel rooms. This could be all for naught. He traveled all the way there without getting on Expedia for a minute or whatever the fuck. I'm trying to think of 2014 where people travel sites, people, anything, just a hotel in this town velocity. Figure it out.

Google. He doesn't think to do that ahead of time. So he's a, not a real four. He doesn't have a lot of foresight for a, for a pedophile. Cause as we see from those shows, those pedophiles come prepared.

Oh boy. Do they have, they've been planning this this is their whole thing this is it's like they're you know like ted bundy had a kit in the back that's what like their kit this is my kid fucking kit drove an hour and 40 minutes he stopped nearby so that the pizza's still hot exactly exactly he baked these cookies today these aren't old these are fresh baked with you know and there's a penis bump in the car. I love

when they find weird sexual shit on them too. That's the best. One guy had a dildo that one time. See the dildo guy? Every one of them are like I wasn't going to do nothing. Really man? Yeah. That's why you brought condoms and dildos. The dildo though.

What were you planning on doing with this? What is he? I love when they ask questions that there's no other answer to than the obvious answer. That's the question I love. What were you planning on doing with condoms? We were going to make water balloons and throw them at each other. No. What do you think I was going to do with condoms?

Fill them with water and put them in the freezer. We're going to make water balloons and throw them at each other. No. What do you think I was going to do with condoms? Fill them with water and put them in the freezer. We're going to have popsicles later. Put them inside of a child. I'm a creep. What do you think? I was going to put it on. See that penis that you have a picture of? I was going to put one on it.

You were just going to put one of them on there probably. So this. Wow. I'm going to put one of them on there probably. So this. Wow. Put it in a preteen. This is disgusting. So they couldn't find a room. So they went to Fertson Lake there, which is in the town that they were at, where they drank bally's. He gave her liquor.

Irish cream. Fucking bally's, dude. Wow. that they were at where they drank baileys he gave her liquor irish cream fucking baileys dude because that's palatable for a child yeah but it's gonna make that girl throw up he's out of wine coolers jimmy what do you want it's not making zima eight years yeah he's really upset he's like damn it if i only had some zima I could really. And then she gave him oral sex here. Oh, Jesus. I'm being clinical from the court document here. We don't need to go further than that. We get it. We get it, and we're all grossed out by it.

So, unfortunately, Chris Hansen didn't emerge from the lake like the Loch Ness Monster and say, What are you doing there with this? He's so late. What are you doing with that Bailey's? So, oh my God, Jesus Christ. And that night, they stayed together. This is fucking

ridiculous, okay? He's a 19 year old national Dutch champion and this guy's traveling inter country into another country crossing borders for pedophilia pedophilia across borders is not what we're supposed to be going for here he's doing this to get there doesn't even have a hotel room fucking gets oral sex from a 12 year old which is fucking disgusting it took him this was like three months of grooming too by the way online shit they slept in cardboard boxes under a stairway

at the at the premier inn at some shit hotel so romance they slept in cardboard boxes like fucking rail hobos under the hotel. You gotta find big boxes and now you're on a on a trek around town to find housing. No wonder why this scumbag likes 12 year olds.

Yeah. A 19 year old. No. A 19 year old. She might blow you by the lake. Right. You could probably if you give her enough bellies

maybe she'll blow you by the lake. you could probably if you give her enough bellies maybe she'll blow you by the lake but if you go hey let's go sleep in these cardboard boxes now she'll go no i'm not doing that and then also she's definitely not going to do anything else with you ever again no no so instead he could cut windows in this and write flower shop on the front it's fun for this girl yeah maybe they're just playing house maybe that's what it is yeah they turn the box upside down you're like stewie from family guy when he sat there at the table and maybe yeah maybe that's what happened because that would be perfect because she's 12 that That's awful. Absolutely awful.

Holy shit. I think my friends had a fort when we were 12. You know, like that's what you do when you're 12. Wow. So they slept in cardboard boxes. And then the next day, they're still not able to book a hotel room. I don't know if there's a convention in town. It's summer.

It's the travel season. The travel. I don't understand what's going on. But this place, there is not a convention in town. It's summer. It's the travel season. The travel. I don't understand what's going on. But this place, there is not a goddamn hotel room in sight. So they went to her parents' house where her parents were at work. They were gone. So he ends up having sex with her in her sister's bedroom. Oh, God.

Jesus. He ends up. Yeah. Well, I don't care. She's 12. He rapes this girl in her sister's bedroom jesus he ends up yeah well i don't care she's 12 he rapes this girl in her sister's bedroom it's 12 i don't care care if she's into it or not she's 12 she's not she's not legally allowed to be into it yet and you're not legally allowed to care if she's into it you're not supposed to do it reason even them asking those people to come to the house on that show i don't care don't care disgusting disgusting so um she did and this god damn it um i have to just say this for the legal stuff but it's pretty fucking gross stuff here um i am going to read exactly what the prosecutor will say here um while he did not ejaculate inside her and stopped when she said it hurt, before he returned to the Netherlands, he advised her to go get the morning after pill because, you know, he didn't use any condom or anything, obviously, because, you know, fuck.

If you're going to travel. Didn't even bring a condom. So, I mean, all the at least the to catch a predator guys usually bring condoms. The catch a predator guys usually bring condoms. So at least they're in their wallet planning on having safe pedophilia instead of whatever this is. Fucking disgustingness. So she goes to a family planning clinic that because she's 12. There's no they don't. There's no medical privacy yet until you're of a certain age.

It's different. I think it's 14 in the United States. It's different states. But it's I don't know what it is there oh because she was not 13 it's 13 there she wasn't 13 so they not only notified her parents they notified the authorities of this yeah so um they were called in and um think of that how did he not think a child buying morning after pills maybe gonna raise some red flags you figure out how to here's two things you should have thought of before you got there hotel room yeah and that if you were gonna do that you fucking scumbag i'm not trying now i don't want

to encourage anybody to yeah i don't want to give you a blueprint yeah here's how you get away with it more easily that's not what i'm saying here uh, then he booked a flight home and traveled on back to the Netherlands that night. That was the only thing he went there for. Yep. Literally slept in a box and then banged her. And then this is disgusting. Fucking rapes a child.

So, um, yeah, he does this. Um, then I love, by the way, there's an article from an English newspaper.

I think it's the mirror that says, quote, the pervert flew from his home in the Netherlands to Milton Keynes Buckinghamshire in 2014 after forming a relationship with his victim on Facebook the pervert flew he's just not even his name he's just the pervert which is amazing that's perfect comic book villain for sure the pervert and he's just off yeah with a big p on villain for sure. The pervert. And he's just all, meh, with a big P on his chest. I'm the pervert, meh. Big P on his chest and just a rock hard dick on his thigh.

Rock hard dick and his whole front is just like a Velcro patch that he can flap. He can pull open at any point. And he wears a trench coat. For sure. So, yeah, that's how the parents found out about it. The parents were mondo mucho pissed off about this, as you might imagine. You know, you fly here to get my daughter drunk and rape her. So, you know, not great at all.

and rape her so yeah that's not good you know not great at all um then after that even though there was a goddamn warrant for his arrest in england that he knew about from fucking august of 2015 he kept they had continued contact after that oh my god he still kept talking to her they continued to speak online with him sending her a request to follow him on Instagram as late as November, as late as months after this. When the authorities already knew about this shit and he was already going to be arrested for it. How? I guess, I mean, you got big things going on in your government and people will look

for it, but somebody crossing state lines and country lines. Country lines. International borders. You have to show your passport to do that. EU pass, that's EU. So I don't know. Can you go within the EU? I'm sure there's some sort of paperwork check-in between countries.

Christ, right? Yeah, there's got to be a keep an eye on who comes and goes. I get it. It's not the 40s. It's probably not armed guards or anything, but I don't know. Something probably. Maybe there should be. A big gate guards or anything but i don't know something maybe there should be a big gate that comes down i don't know this girl would still have her innocence had you had that

uh they'd let this guy in anywhere yeah he's got i'm playing volleyball oh come right in you tall fucking six foot four hands look at you six six six oh my god never mind six four he's yeah so Oh, my God. Never mind 6'4". Yeah. So he kept in contact with her. You know what made him stop, Jimmy? What? Did her parents log in? No, no. His legal team finally said, we weren't going to court on this. Stop talking to this girl.

You're still, literally, we have trial in like two weeks. You're still talking to her. Are you? There's no way this is the first time that if they if they have to step in to stop him it's been oh my god three he got three months of grooming and flew over there got a blow job from a 12 year old and then fucking and then slept in a box with her banged her at her parents house and then fucking gets in a on a plane and flies right back oh god he does this

this is this is jam yeah how many girls is he talking to that's what i want to know because he didn't just pick oh this is just this one girl how many let's see how many accusers does crystalia have one right no shit no it's like 20. Yeah. 30. I don't know. There's a lot. Allegedly. Whatever the fuck. But fuck him. Yeah. Yeah.

Accusers. But still, where there's smoke, there's a fucking warehouse fire. Raging in front of us. A whole warehouse is on fire. A whole apartment complex is burning down when you see one little thing of smoke in the pedophilia ring. It's not good. Flammable cans of a full the term tip of the

iceberg doesn't even come close to what we're talking about here so oh my god uh does his lawyers tell him to stop finally okay and he stops talking to her now the police statement here the chief crown prosecutor for the tames and uh chiltern crown prosecution service uh adrian foster is his name yes i swear to god i was like perfect one letter in from from a from a decent running back yeah it was like perfect uh so uh they said quote uh the victim was befriended by steven vandervelde via social media mainly skype facebook and snapchat after a few months of chatting almost every day vandervelde who that's the other thing how do you what do you how about what the fire inside of you to do that has to be so great for you to talk to a 12-year-old every day.

Have you ever talked to a 12-year-old who's not your child? No. Like one of their friends or something? Yeah. Like, hey, how's it going? How's school going? You don't care what that kid has to say. You don't give a shit about what they have to say.

They don't know anything. They're not funny. They're not interesting interesting they have no life experience shut up yeah shut the fuck up back there i don't know you can talk when i'll ask what you want from mcdonald's before that shut the fuck up and really i don't even care you're not interested i'm buying what i want to buy you anyway that's it you're thoroughly uninteresting at 12. You really are. To an adult, you have nothing to offer. If I ask a question out loud, it's because I'm waiting for myself to answer it, not you. I don't need you.

A 12-year-old has nothing to offer socially to an adult. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Ding! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything.

You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um...

This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him.

Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that? I have a crystal ball in my head. The Emmy Award winning series returns. How did I know that? I have crystal ball in my head. It's an all new season. It's streaming. You can say anything.

Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. This is terrible. Yeah. This is terrible. Yeah. Vandervelde traveled from the UK to Holland on 2nd of August 2014 and raped the young girl before traveling home again on August 3rd. She trusted him and believed he loved her.

But due to her age was in absolutely no position to give true and free consent to the sexual acts. Obviously. So even in Europe, it doesn't matter so they said well roman polanski's allowed to escape he's been sitting over there forever good point you know uh that's in where is he uh i don't know he's in europe i don't know where yeah i don't know what country he went i don't either i don't hungry or something does that still exist i don't either. I don't care. Hungary or some shit? Does that still exist? I don't even know. I think that's where he's from. Or is he from the Czechoslovakia?

I think that's where he's from. You know what? Poland? He's Polish. I know that much. Polanski sounds pretty Polish. That seems like right on the nose. Yeah.

It sounds like he's from Milwaukee, so it's got to be something to do with Polish. He said that. That'd be hilarious. I'd love to see a truck driver from Milwaukee named Roman Polanski. Because you know there is one. How you doing? Roman Polanski here. Good to meet you. Good to meet you.

So, they said Van Veldt had extensive contact with the victim on social media prior to the offense being committed and was fully aware of her age. Despite this, Van Veldt, who was well-respected in his home country for playing volleyball at a national level, traveled to the UK with the sole purpose of meeting the victim and subsequently raped her. I hope this trial, well, he goes on to say he's going to, whatever. I hope this trial, well, he goes in to say he's going to, whatever. They say hope it acts as a deterrent to other adults who communicate inappropriately with children online. They say also that they take all reports of sexual offenses toward children seriously and you should report them and all that. So in court, they're like, okay, if you want to go to trial here's the deal in the uk a person can receive a life sentence if convicted of the rape of a child is that right that's possible um although the sentencing guidelines can go up to um from 19 years there's a whole bunch of different

sentencing guidelines but in the netherlands the maximum sentence for rape is 12 years period what the shit and they have a deal where there's a deal with the dutch where the dutch will not extradite someone unless there is an agreement that the sentence will be served with the sentence will be served in the netherlands so it's it's it's testy when you're dealing with other countries and all that sort of thing. International extradition agreements are a hairy thing. So maybe that's why he went to England to do this. I don't know. So he – in court though, the lawyers are like, you can't take this to trial because, A, they're going to get a worse sentence if you take it to trial.

You're going to be found guilty. We have miles. You make a spend money on this? It's a slam dunk, sir. They have months of social media interaction on him. They have her talking about what happened, which go ahead and put her on the stand and see what happens. You're going for life if you put her on the stand. You're fucked.

Let a jury see a 12-year-old and hear a 12-year-old describe sex acts? Forget it. Especially in court, as we'll talk about later on, what she says is he would have been screwed. So he ends up admitting to and pleading guilty to, essentially, here, three counts of rape against a child. Three counts. Yeah. Three. Oh, boy.

Wow, which is, I don't know how that works, but it's three counts altogether. I mean, there was one act on the beach or wherever the fuck that happened. Then there was the other act there. And who knows what happened in the box. Yeah. Something happened in the box. Yikes. I'm sure he diddled her or something.

Yeah. Gross. So he's convicted of three counts. March 22nd, 2016 is his sentencing here. So the prosecution steps up and going for some sentencing. They're going to have some stank on this shit. Sandra Beck is the prosecutor. And she says, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

She says about the young lady, quote, she describes that she had met Stephen Vandervelde on Facebook. They spoke regularly through that, and he made her feel special. She certainly made it clear she was seven years younger than him. This relationship over social media was taking place over a period of time. They continued to speak online,

and she goes on to describe the acts, which we don't have to do again, and then also describes how he was telling her to request him on Instagram as late as fucking six months ago. Last week. Well, yeah, until his lawyers told him not to, basically. So the defense attorney comes up and, whew, you got to, wow, I don't know how you do this. How do you prepare this even? I mean, Jesus Christ, you get up and go, I mean, he's so tall. I mean, I don't know what you say to this. Linda Strudwick is the poor. And that was all it was spur of the moment.

She said it was this wasn't a planned thing that he was working on. It was just like, hey, I'll go there right now. She said the tube and jumped up there on an easy plane and done deal. She said she insists that he is not a predatory young man, quote unquote. Oh, Linda. Not at all. She said. And this is, man, this I don't know how how somebody, if the family of this girl is in the courtroom,

I don't know how somebody didn't get up and clothesline this broad right off her fucking feet when she said this. Quote, this was a caring and loving relationship between two people. A girl who was nearly 13, like that makes it any fucking better. Oh, she was nearly 13 like that makes it any fucking better oh she was almost 13 well christ yeah she'd have been starting her junior year in college by then so i'm sure this is fine i cannot imagine how gross i would feel if i said how old are you and the person said nearly 13 nearly 13 oh okay so you're nearly five years away from someone being even allowed legally to talk to you. So gross. You're nearly still illegal. Yeah. Jesus Christ. You're nearly still believe in Santa Claus. This is crazy. That's what you're nearly. This is nuts.

That's what you're nearly. This is nuts. You're as near to legal age of sexual contact as you are to a bedtime story and a fucking sippy cup. Is the Easter bunny coming? Yeah. When is the tooth fairy going to be here? How much money will they give me? That's where you are. Just as near.

This is weird. You're as close to a sippy cup as you are to legal sexual encounters when you're 12. You're right in the middle. That is horrific. My Christ, this is bad stuff. So she then said, I'll just read that again. This was a caring and loving relationship between two people, a girl who was nearly 13 and an older boy of 19 boy nearly 13 older boy of 19 no a this is like a resume like she's like well i'll say i stayed two months longer in that job

and started two months earlier on that one and we just filled in my gap there make that gap a little smaller. He's a boy of 19. She's a young woman of nearly 13. That's like crazy. But one who is very young and more of an adolescent. That's what she says about her client here. An older boy of 19, but one who is very young and more of an adolescent. The age gap is not quite so stark as it might have prior seemed. Are you out of your mind? She's 12. This guy is a fucking international athlete he goes all over the world you're a worldly guy i'm sorry if you're 19

and you've been to china i've never been to china no i've never been he's been to like 20 countries that i've seen playing volleyball this is a worldly traveled man he's not a fucking boy it's ridiculous he's got a passport and uh travels by himself he's fine he fucking tours like van halen for christ's sake he's you kidding me this is insane just because he still thinks the word penis is funny doesn't mean he's not an adult fuck yeah exactly because he's a jerk off doesn't mean that he's legally young um steven did not come to this country for the purpose of having sex even though that's all he did there right literally as soon as he was done he fucking left oh my god he made it plain that as far as he was concerned she was too young plain by grooming her then coming there um miss a is who

they call her in court we're not going to release her name obviously miss a said she wanted to lose her virginity to him so well you're a child come back in i don't know when six seven years and if you're still fucking looking for it we'll we'll give it a shit chat but up until then no but then probably not because i'll be almost 30 and you'll be like in college and then i'll be like oh you're annoying so no never mind and you'll probably be like oh you're almost 30 now it was so much hotter when you were yeah not what you are oh god this lawyer went on to say that he has shown genuine remorse and was devastated at his actions just devastated he's it's been killing him he she said that he's a steady young man who does not fish fit the quote laddish sporting stereotype you know he's not like the you know

going out there sports guy yeah he's not a playboy. He's a steady young man. Having only had two previous sexual relationships between the ages of 16 to 18. That's what she claims. A handsome fucking six foot six international athletes only had two sexual relationships. That guy's only had two sexual relationships and he's 6'6 and has been to China? Yeah. He has paid for dozens of women, I guarantee you. In all the weird countries he's been in, the teams, they go do weird shit and get massages. It's gross.

Yeah, gross. Despite the good looks and fan base, Stephen Vandeville did not take advantage of his looks for love in a relationship. So despite the fact that women throw themselves at him, he was just too pure for that and was saving himself for a 12 year old. Either that or they're too old for him. Yeah, you think? Fuck. They began to chat on a daily basis. And I asked I asked this court to accept that this was not grooming.

There was mutual support against mutual support as two angst-ridden juveniles he's not a juvenile he's 19 fucking years old over there he can drink right yeah 18 he bought the bally's for her yeah right she called him a boy and a juvenile in both of those things um then she goes on he's lost a stellar sporting career and he's been great oh well that sucks he's made like 25 grand with him and his partner this is a silver-haired middle-aged white man here this this woman lawyer from holland uh wow um or from england he's lost a stellar sporting career and he's being branded a rapist. Yeah. Weird how words have meanings.

Isn't that strange? Didn't he plead to it? So he's calling himself a rapist. He won't eat meat. He's being branded a vegetarian. This is ridiculous. Well, guess what? Holy shit.

He's lost that. He's a rapist. In Holland, the term means violent sexual assault without consent. Not content. The headline says it all. A sex monster. It's plainly a career ender for him. So his whole life's been destroyed.

You don't need to kick him while he's down is what the thing is. He's just a poor boy. Nobody loves him. He's just a poor boy from a poor family. That's all it is rape does not imply violence lady yeah no it doesn't that's the thing rape implies sex you're not allowed to have right that's what it implies in whatever aspect that is sex that is not permitted whether or not she wanted it that's not permitted not okay yeah she doesn't she's not old enough to permit that sort of thing um so the lawyer then uh said that he genuinely regrets it quote there's genuine remorse he's lost his

wow so that she says again it is a career ender. So the judge now before sentencing, the judge is no, it's a man. Judge Francis Sheridan, which is good because I think it's a guy though. And only you want, I would want a guy to sentence this guy. Go ahead. Cause you got to go. You fucking nobody. A woman's going to hate him, but we want to choke this guy go ahead because you gotta go you fucking nobody a woman's gonna hate him but yeah we want to choke this son of a bitch because we're like we we have like a visceral

like physical defense of our daughters type of thing where we're like you fucking go near a child i remember when my kid was 12 i'd rip your fucking head off and it's a protection basis there yeah i will spike it over a volleyball net when I'm done. So, Francis Sheridan said, you were a hugely talented athlete who enjoyed the adulation of the crowd, but you also have a dark side, and it is that that brought you to this court.

Yes, indeed. Prior to coming to this country, you were training as a potential Olympian. Your hopes of representing your country now lie as a shattered dream. Clearly what's coming next is going to ruin everything. This is really good. Your actions in those two days

in England have wrecked your life, and you could, had you never come to England and committed these offenses, have been a leader in your sport. You had been in the UK for a little over six hours when you allowed this girl to give you oral sex. This is rape on account of her age. She instigated that activity as she thought that's what you do when you are, quote, in love, because that's what she testified in this thing. By the way,

she also testified here that she has since tried to kill herself because she feels bad because his life is ruined. She feels like she did this to him. Yep. Not that he's a pedophile and not her fault. That justifies why the law in England is as wise as it is in prohibiting a child from consenting. A young, naive, foolish young child. Two youngs. Two youngs, a child, and a naive.

That's the correct way to do it yeah had formed the view that you loved her in reality you only knew her on the internet had never met her before and were fully aware of the age difference you sir yeah may fuck off he is sentenced to this is three counts four years on each count okay to be served concurrently though four years four years he got for this and he gets to go home to serve because he's sentenced under dutch standards yeah so the maximum they could give him was 12 they gave him concurrent now he has to do that he also must remain on the sex offenders registry indefinitely. I would hope so. And also made subject to a sexual harm prevention order. I hope that's a guy who goes around in front of him going, sexual predator, sexual offender,

sexual harm, beware, sexual harm, ringing a bell, sexual harm, ringing a bell, clang, clang. Ringing a shame bell. Sexual harm, clang, clang. That's what I hope. That would be amazing. I did children. He puts a wig on. He looks like an 18th century Englishman, and he gets a bell, and he's assigned to him.

We found a new job for Chris Hansen because his old job sucks. He sleeps on his porch and he's like, oh, here he is, up and out. And he leaves in the morning, ah, sexual harm, coming through. Chris' haircut's a disaster now. He looks so bad. Throw a powdered wig on and do the shame run. I want that. That's all.

Sexual harm, coming through. Here he is. Have a seat right there. coming through here we have a seat right there have a seat have a seat right there sexual arm he's probably got cookies he's got cookies i don't know why i'll ask him cookies and condoms cookies and condoms that's the should be the title of i think that's the title of this episode is what that is. Cookies and condoms, I think, is the only way to do that. So he is also banned from contacting her until she turns 18, which I think should go without saying, probably. It should be for life. I guess when she's an adult, she can do what she wants, I guess. Yeah, I mean, Christ, that teacher married that kid over here.

What's from the 90s? The Mary Kay Laterno lady. They got fucking married and had kids when she got out of prison. So that did torture her internally forever. Oh, yeah. She ended up dying of like 97 different kinds of cancer. The poor lady. Jesus Christ.

I don't know. Who knows? So probably not here. I don't know. Who knows? Probably not. Probably not. Probably not here. I don't think so. So the police issued a statement in the court. This is like the government statement. Quote, the convictions in today's sentence serve as an important message to people who have been in the victim, who have been the victim of crimes such as these or that those that know such crimes are being committed, that they should come forward so that the attackers can be brought to justice and that others can be saved from the horrific

ordeal of abuse. The CPS, which is the not our CPS took her baby CPS. This is that's the court is what it's called. The big long title that things were CPS was the acronym for that. So there is that. Where am I? Yes. So CPS will work closely with its partners as it did with Tames Valley Police.

In this case, the emotional impact on the victim and her family of the aberrant actions of this man, abhorrent actions actually. They're aberrant and abhorrent. We'll say they're both. Is impossible to quantify. I hope that the convictions and today's sentence give some small amount of comfort to them. Our thoughts are very much with them at this time. So he serves in a Dutch prison here. Like I said, there has to be a guarantee the person will be returned when sentenced to

the Netherlands. So the Ministry of Justice spokesperson said, it is this government's policy that a foreign national offender should serve their sentence in their own country wherever possible. So England said the same thing. They want to buy pay for him. Let them do it. You know, a foreign national, all foreign national offenders given a custodial sentence are referred for consideration for deportation at the earliest possible opportunity.

So he is, he serves barely a year. Oh, my barely a year. He gets for this. That is wild shit, man. Um,

so by 2017, March of 2017, he's out of jail and saying really dumb shit, really dumb shit. Cause he's clear and free and he doesn't care but in your life indefinite sexual predator don't say anything I feel like the stank is a little lighter over there

because no one seems to give a shit people still play volleyball with him how are you going to get a volleyball partner it's you and pedo so it's us two against you and pedo so it's us two against you and pedo his name would be fucking pedo over there that's it me and you and then you and pedo okay yeah there you go what the fuck man who wants to be his oh my god so he says he plans on making the olympic team that's what he's gonna try to make the olympic team he's complaining

though too because he's like i'm gonna have to restart my career slowly because you know i wasn't able to keep in top physical shape in jail i had a lot of downtime it kind of sucks he was like a year dude it's well and he's fucking 20 who cares you should be able to how fast did you fall apart in one year in jail in your 20 you can eat carl's junior every day when you're fucking 20 and be fine i I say that because that's the worst one. That's the equivalent of Hardee's in the East. So not great. Yeah.

So he also said about this, quote, in England, the punishments are a lot higher. They were laughing about my four years. Baby sentence is what they called it. So when he was in baby sentence like that's not what they meant sir no yeah i meant you're going because of the baby oh jesus christ he said he felt sorry for himself he had to watch the fireworks from from prison on new year's eve yeah that's how it works he said he wept to himself in an amsterdam prison while he watched the fireworks on New Year's Eve. It was only one set, one New Year's Eve, so quit bitching.

He said he had to take so much time off training, so now he's going to have to rebuild his body. He said that his body's not the same, quote, as I sat around for a while doing nothing. He says he doesn't consider himself a sex monster, and he should definitely be allowed to rejoin the dutch national volleyball team this is ridiculous he said i don't think the same thing well he goes on to get in the detail here quote oh man you know what let's let's give it in their own words here because this is actually yeah this is perfect okay let's do it in there. Like I didn't even come. I pulled out. Damn it. He gives like the Bill Murray at the end of a kingpin really early on that

one. Okay. In their own words, quote, I do want to correct all this nonsense, which has been written up about me when I was locked up. I did not read any of it on purpose but i understand that it was quite bad that i have been branded as a sex monster as a

pedophile that i am not really not everyone can have an opinion about me but it is only fair that they also know my side of the story and if i want to return to the Dutch national team, I do need to start talking about the last years. What's a pedophile, James? Someone who's attracted to children, I believe, is what that is. What's a 12-year-old? Anybody not classify a 12-year-old as a child, you are sexually attracted and actually follow through on it. Pedophile. 12 year old as a child you are sexually attracted and actually followed through on it pedophile a human being who was born 12 years ago is a child i'm gonna have to go ahead and say yeah that words have meanings they really do i really enjoy vocabulary and words having meanings and things

like that and uh especially those ones that's a strong one. It's a strong word. It's a word you got it. You got to make sure it has the correct meaning and that it fits. And if you know, like this show, we don't throw that shit around. No willy nilly on this show at all. Like that's not a tough word to accuse somebody of. It's a terrible thing. So they have to really be that because that's the worst thing you can be in society. Yeah.

Even in prison. That's you're the worst. It's like you gotta you gotta earn that yeah in prison you do much better if you cut your kid's head off than fuck them so you know what i mean that says a lot for that so he said that his actions also were unbelievably stupid and he agreed that he should have known better he said he also uh wow he said we this about the young girl quote we both had our problems very different ones though yours are with international travel and trying to make the olympic team hers are with math class there's a big fucking difference very different yours are targeting children and hers are being targeted by pedophiles

hers is the new line of my little ponies don't come out till after christmas and she's upset about it that's different hers are handling her booze that you bought her you fucking we both had our problems that gave a sort of mutual affection it is all my fault i do not understand why i let it come to this point i do out of file so there's a children's group that's pretty pissed off adam the nspcc it's their dutch word so i have no idea what that means um vandervelde's lack of remorse and self-pity is breathtaking and we can only begin to imagine how distressed his victim must feel if she sees his comments grooming can leave a child feeling ashamed or even guilty because they believe they have somehow willingly participated when in fact an adult has

preyed upon them in order to sexually exploit them and that's exactly how she feels she feels guilty it's fucking terrible um so the dutch volleyball association said that they asked them what are you going to do with him they said well his main focus is getting his life back on track rather than returning to his playing career right now they said for us it's too early uh way too early in in this process to conclude anything with regard to volleyball with regard to any future decisions to be made, will be guided by Dutch law. They should not be using words like it's a little too early. It's a little too early.

You know, like when he touched that girl. A little too early. A little too early. About seven years too early for us to talk about this. They should always say seven years too early. I mean, so they feel terrible for this kid too she feels bad it's it's a fucking bad situation i feel bad for a lot of people in this story jimmy but not nearly as bad as i fear oh fuck no as i feel for steven vandevelde managing director at the Woody Group. What? I couldn't make that up if I fucking tried.

The Boner Group? In Ghent. I don't even know where Ghent is. I thought that was from Middle Earth or something. I didn't even know that still existed as a place. He says, let's find out what the Woody Group is. He says, let's find out what the Woody Group is. He says, started out as a banker, left the finance industry to grow in a management role while learning about marketing, customer service, operations, and hard-selling models. Finally, it all came together in the position as marketing director of the Woody Group, a beautiful, modern, and ambitious company active in fashion and textile.

There we go. Clothing company. Read all about it on the woodygroup.com and tell them thank you that your managing director is not a pedophile that's good he probably got so many emails going my god what happened why did you this is terrible jesus steven vandevelde a belgian bicycle rider okay uh he did 8.8 kilometers yesterday. I say he keeps his thing live. Currently in February, he has ridden 163.6 kilometers, and he's done this over nine hours, two minutes, and 16 seconds of riding.

We're barely halfway through the month. Holy shit. He's doing well. And it's winter. So good for you. the month holy shit he's doing well he's doing and it's winter so good for you uh and then finally steven van der veld which it's just an r off which is he pops up in a search so you're in there you're in within search parameters who is i found him on imdb he's known for a movie called disappearance in 2017 he is in the camera and electrical department as a grip assistant. So and also a mistaken for a pedophile.

So 2017, guess who is back in action playing some volleyball? Oh, yeah. He makes, let's see, from May 13th, 2017 through September 2nd, 2017. He has one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine matches. He makes $0. What is it with this sport? Ugots. October 11th, he makes $2,900 in China, all the way in China.

And then, that's not him, that's his team made $2,900. And then he comes back october 25th and makes 300 bucks two weeks later so useless 3,200 over way too long a period that's it fucking terrible 2018 he makes a couple of bucks two thousand dollars and then but then he doesn't make any money till the next month and then february twenty six hundred dollars in march he makes five hundred dollars one match 150 another match a thousand dollars in may didn't play at all in april i assume his schedule isn't probably there's probably still some places that are like we don't want him we have ball boys and stuff and yeah they're kids and we're not gonna have him around for free around here yeah it, it's no good. So $2,000 one day, 0-0, 1,000, 0-0, 0-0.

He starts making better money in 2019. August 2019 through November, he makes $2,500 one match. Two weeks later, makes $4,000. You better bring it in and save it. Better save it. September 4th, he makes $12,000. So he makes six. That's the Rome World Tour Finals.

So that's a big one, I guess. Makes $6,000 for himself. Then $3,000, $2,000, $2,600. So, you know. Starts to cash in now. Just not. But those are like a month apart. Oh, yeah.

Plus his travel expenses. I don't know how much suntan lotion he goes through. It's got to cost him. Is family paying for his life or what? I would assume so, probably. Together with his partner, Dirk Boley, who somehow was like, sure, I'll be your partner again. Why not? They finished third at the Blooming Beach.

What the fuck, Alsmir place at the 2018 FIVB Beach Volleyball World Tour. He also was on a team at one point. Some team let him be on the team. Abian, Lycurgus, Groningen. That's

the team here. Whole team. 2019, they win the bronze at the World tour and then win fifth place at the world tour finals in rome that's that twelve thousand dollars in 2019 so first place probably got you some dough um through 2019 and 2020 okay i'll just i'll read off 2019 this is march through july so this is a good you know four months here so how we started yeah zero dollars ten thousand dollars zero zero zero zero four thousand eight thousand not a lot yeah and that's split between right two people somebody else yeah yeah uh next up 2020 for this is uh from march through september

2020 oh boy right in the thick of the right at the beginning of covid and right through the thick of it yep four thousand zero zero zero twenty five hundred okay not good he gets married what a fucking hot german volleyball player marries him named kim berens b-e-h-r-e-n-s gorgeous athletic fucking german volleyball player um she's an outside hitter just like they call him too um which i would call him more of an inside hitter. He's disgusting. She's two years older than him. Tall woman fucking doing great. They get married. They look like, I mean,

they're going to make six foot eight blonde children. They're fucking crazy. Next up, he's a, these tournaments I'm looking at all through 2021 and 2022, they made $50,000 in one tournaments, one tournament, the world tour finals in Sardinia, they made 50 grand.

Otherwise, the most they made was 10 grand in a day. And a lot of the times it was 1,000, 2,400, that sort of shit. This was peak plan for him though now. Yeah. This is not lucrative. It's really not with all this travel. I would assume you have to be like an Olympic champion that would then get sponsorships and hosting gigs and things like that. But he's not going to get any of that, obviously, because he's a pedophile.

You can't have him giving things to children. Especially now he's not going to be like a sunblock, suntan lotion. Nothing that can be used as lubricant is going to be fucking, you're not going to have a pedophile be the spokesman for it. Especially keep him away from the tanning oil. Yes, definitely. He's winning matches though.

In 2022, I see him winning a bunch of matches, doing pretty well. So if you can't get enough of him, I don't know, be 12 and on social media or head over to the netherlands and catch a fucking beach volleyball match but that is steven vandervelde quite the asshole quite the piece of shit i would say that is i'm gonna go ahead out on a limb in here and say he's up for a scummy

he's gonna be up for a scummy right it's it's buck zumhoff level almost because that was his daughter. That would have been way worse. But this is gross. Very recently. This is disgusting. Shopped for babies. That's gross. This is gross. And by the way, the scummies are coming up in a couple weeks.

Yeah. We are going to make the scummies a whole episode. We're going to do the this year scummies, obviously the last calendar year. the this year scummies obviously the last calendar year then we're going to do also a all-time scummies on the same episode we're going to take all the long formers you know what i'm saying all the ones that were long that that we're going to cut it off right there and that's going to be your all times ending with lawrence taylor that'll be the last one eligible for an all-time scummy and we are going to have all-time scummy awards, which is going to be amazing. Amazing, because it's going to be all the winners of Scumbag of the Year, all the winners, and they're all going to go up against each other,

and we're going to see who is the worst person who ever had a long-form crime in sports. We can't wait to do that. We should do a rest bingo one year, too. Oh, sure. At January 1st, we draft and take nine players or however big bingo is. We could do it for seasons, even. We could do it like, you know, we could break the year up into three seasons. Yeah.

You know? And then whoever, somebody wins a prize. There's got to be a prize. I'll make a fucking. We'll send out something. Yeah, I'll make a trophy. We'll send out some merch or something. We'll make a trophy.

That'd be great. We should. Make a trophy for scummy winner out something. Yeah, I'll make a trophy. We'll send out some merch or something. We'll make a trophy. That'd be great. We should. Make a trophy for scummy winner or something. Scummy winner and then send it to them. Yeah, we're going to have the scummy soon, so look out for those. He's going to be definitely a candidate for something. For sure. Not that much.

He's going to be up for scumbag of the year. I'm going to tell you right now. He's a piece of shit. Oh, my God. His wife better keep a close eye on him and don't have children. No, no, no. Oh, boy. No, no, no, no.

He likes 12-year-olds, and especially just the way he's like, oh, I had to watch the fireworks from like, you know. Yeah, the lack of remorse is crazy. You're lucky you weren't in jail for 20 years, you asshole. Yeah. Are you kidding me? You could have got life. You penetrated a 12-year-old. Are you nuts?

More than once. Are you fucking nuts, dude? It's awful. Yeah. In more than one place. Are you out of your mind? Disgusting. I can't imagine.

Voluntary or not, I feel like I'd throw in kidnapping on that, too. Yeah. She lied to her parents and went with this fucking adult who knew that? Yeah. Kidnapping. Fuck you. Gross. So if you like this show, if you like the show in general tell the world about it get on whatever app you're listening on it does help out the show a lot and give us five stars and say something nice it's

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jonestown sex in the people's temple to be more specific because some of it's before jonestown that is jim jones and you know all of that and the kool-aid and everything but we're not going to talk about that we're going to talk about the sexual aspect of it who was fucking who what happens when one guy has complete control over the lives of a thousand other people including sexually yeah very weird shit happens so join us for that patreon.com slash crime and sports now i'd like to hear about the people tell me tell me about these people who would never ever ever ever groom children and fly to england to have sex with. But they have given us money.

Tell me about these people. Hit me with these names right now. This week's executive producers are Corporal Carl Kirshner and his birthday bride, Christy. They're celebrating their anniversary and her birthday. Happy anniversary. Thank you. Happy birthday. Also, Moto Fab, Susan and John McQuilkin.

They came to our St. Louis show and thanked us. Cool, thank you. So much. Yeah, Jordan Bennett, Midnight Wombat. She brought me a cigar in a fucking humidor tube. It's very, very thoughtful. Gorgeous. Maddie Lynch brought me, she's a talented baker.

She brought us cookies with our faces on them. They're very nice. Morgan and Leah in Pittsburgh, Nicole Anderson and Kelly Ray. Jennifer Krimmel. Ayla Krista. Dylan, Liz, Gary, Derek, and Ash. Remember Derek from Stand Up Live? He was there also.

My man. Jacob Waltrip and his five-month girlfriend who bowled with me in St. Louis. Thank you guys so much for everything you do. You're fantastic. Fuck yeah. Other producers this week are Esteban, a.k.a. Cirque. I guess that's a nickname. I don't know. Sure. I don't know what you do, you're fantastic. Other producers this week are Esteban, a.k.a. Cirque. I guess that's a nickname. I don't know.

Sure. I don't know what you do, Esteban, but Cirque sounds frightening. Sounds badass. Don and Jess Voss. Lisa Noble's sister, Robin. Happy birthday. Jim Ignatowski, I think that is. Oh, yeah.

Reverend Jim. There it is. WWWF great Steve King. Oh, my. I don't know. Old school there. Fucking old school is what that is. There it is. WWWF great Steve King. Oh, my. I don't know. Old school there. Fucking old school is what that is. That's scary.

He brings them hard. Peyton Meadows. Jimmy Dix. Jimmy. Jimmy's Dixie Normus. No, it's not. Don't spread that rumor. It's horrifically small.

Horrifically medium. Alan Hunkin. Tiffany Gonzalez says, eat your checkers, James. Eat your checkers. Eat your checkers. Eat your checkers. I love that. Darcy Standifer. Jane Melkinoff.

Melkinoff. Janice Hill. Overboard. Eat your checkers. Yes. Yeah, yeah. I thought you meant Janice Melkinoff. No.

She and I? Jane Melkinoff. All right. Stephen Lynch, but not that one probably. Carolyn Bonkoski. Bonk probably. Carolyn Bonkoski. Bonkoski. Bonkoski. I don't know.

Jennifer. Oh, Michelle. Michelle Mixel. Mixel maybe. Jennifer Stevens. Brandy Huntley. Brendan Ables. Maik Gibson.

Hey, Brendan. What's up, buddy? Hey, buddy. Little buddy. We've seen him so many times. Fuck yeah, man. What a good guy. Great kid. Maik. Maiki. Ma buddy. We've seen him so many times. He's a good kid. Fuck yeah, man. What a good guy. Great kid. Make Mayicki.

Mayicki? Mayicki Gibson. I don't know. Mike. It's two A's and an I. M-A-A-I-K-E. That's Mike. Mike.

Yeah, I like that. That's good. That's good. Griffin Monaghan. Monaghanon. Elizabeth Knowles. Maile Strangfeld. Vitter?

Vider. Viter? Viter Ferreira? I think it's Viter. Jacey? Maybe Jace. I don't know. Janice.

Horsey. Hersey. Janice. Hersey. F-E-A. Lauren with no last name. Matthew Baker. Lady Magenta 100.

Sasa with no last name. Hither El Hodiri. Hither? All right. Nikki Beam. Come hither. Christy Con hither all right nicky beam uh christy conch conchary contrary i don't know uh nicole armston armstrong uh jackie with no last name michael kalish kalish the second amanda angler duncan gelder misty lake yep uh kaylee church scott with no

last name matt kimmel. Christopher Hamilton. Kathy Riley. Kurt Geneshevich. What? Genovesh? Rosie, 16. John Dewey. Franny Ann Lancaster. James Lane.

Amber Elliott. Kim Gutierrez. Scarlett Jendro. Anthony Burnett, I think. Jake Henson. Mike Espe. Rascal the Asshole. That feels like an instruction.

Sarah Holland, Luzlino Reyes. Heaven Instead, Gabriela Novak. Tadia, with no last name. A. Witts, Ted Perron, Chance Bosket. Bosket? That's a cool name. Bosquet. Christina Wilson.

Tracy Rambo Harris is even cooler. Tim Veranzan. Yeah, that's a cool name. Ver Wilson. Tracy Rambo Harris is even cooler. Tim Veranazan. Yeah, that's a cool name. Veranazan. Veranazan. That feels like a drug. Mickey Calley. Anthony Simmons in the UK.

Elizabeth Weddock. Weddock. Ronald Murphy. Alyssa Rubio. Rubel. Paul Mitchell. Not the hair guy. Wow.

He has enough money from his hair supplies. Paul Mitchell and vo5 uh michael mertens john brophy victoria hines maybe hens uh laura marker james wiggers alice allison allison hawking uh ren keegan lauren gazin yesine uh bl duff fishing zane carl heather washburn, Patty Butters, Tracy Barber, Tricia Ogle, Cody Ceruber. Ceruber? Ceruber.

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Ceruber. Ceruber. Ceruber. Ceruber. Ceruber. Ceruber. Ceruber. Ceruber. Ceruber. Ceruber I'm sorry. Tara Snyder, Kristen Henson, Senseless Slevin, Brian with no last name, Dave Clarion, Aaron Snyder, Gina with no last name, Russell Johnson, Casey Heinrich, Colin King, Heidi B., Steena Nilsen, Mark Chappas, Trish with no last name, Mark Brown, Regina Ebner, Josh James Foster, Katie Phillips, Renee Lupfer, Greg Bradshaw, Beatrice, Queen B, Krakow. Happy Valentine's Day. Butch Howell, Jenny Dorsainville, Sydney Portis, Catherine Mazur, Sarah Slattery, Elizabeth Pagot, Carrie Keener, Melissa Gray, Amy Mack, Ellie with no last name, Christy Brinkerhoff, Kat McGowan, Tommy Dugan, Dougan maybe, Liz Lawson. I saw Jim's brother. Likely.

Tommy and John. Jim? Jim. It was Jim. Yeah. I saw him. S.M. Lake Elliott. Whitney with no last name, AC Brown, Erica Rangel, Adam Stokes, Courtney Kleppinger, Andre Hance, April Warner, Lexi McClellan, Wes Rager, Merck Haynes, Caitlin

Buchanan, Silas Pritchard, Taken, Taken, Taken, oh, Barozo. What? Jacqueline Buchanan, Silas Pritchard, Takenoborotso. What? Takenoborotso. Yeah, I'm sure that's exactly what it is, Mark. Somebody just mashed the keyboard. That's not real, right? Is it an Italian name, Jimmy? It's literally T-A-K-I-N-O-B-O-R-U-D-E-S-U.

No, that's not an Italian. No, I don't think it is. Taken over roots to do. I like it, though. I want that to be a first name. Just because it broke your head, I like it. Just because it ruins me. I hope somebody has to say that every day.

James Jeckenkubik. Jekeubik. Chris Weichedowitz. somebody has to say that every day james jack and cube kick jack and cubic jacubic uh chris wachita wits what a chow it's brian richard that sounded like taylor munson daniel kelly logan ring it ring it well rindon slugbacker yeah rindles. Rindles. Rindles. Rack and sprack. I feel like the coach. Zach Nabbitt, no car starting struggle is going to tell me otherwise. The coach from Rookie of the Year calling him Rigginspruger. Paul Joggerst. Grant with no last name.

Asha with no last name. Anthony Gutierrez. Daniel Maltinato. Maldonado. Maldonado. Maldonado. Maldonado. Is that whatado. Maldonado. Maldonado. Is that what it was?

Thank you, Daniel. Abby Lee, Rachel Bonnet, Donald Martin, Raymond Kramer, Don Jackson. Josh would know the last name. Brady would know the last name. Leon Potter, Pellcraft, Pellicraft maybe. Kevin Coffey, Austin Rohrer, Samantha Anderson, Kaylin Kayen, Keane. pel craft pelly craft maybe kevin coffee austin rururur uh samantha anderson kaylin k and keen uh john fainer fiener maybe uh jennifer wilkening matthew and misty sibb daytona fort ference ference uh talia tassar talia uh shane baker liz mary liz mary santiago that's a fun one Hannah Glenn Zach Klein Marilyn Neugeberger

Neugebauer Rachel Donaldson Jen and Sean Tip Toe TJ Strader Chawla Hamilton Paul Peterson Robert Levitt

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