Crime in Sports - #345 - S'mores Over A Genital Fire - Alexis "The Exorcist" Vila

Episode Date: March 7, 2023

This week, we look into the life of a man who won an Olympic medal, before sneaking into the US, from Cuba, on a cargo ship. Within a few years, he committed one of the strangest crimes, in the history of Florida, which is saying something. He ends up having a half decent MMA career, at an older age, but then gets himself involved in one of the most callous, and brutal murders that is possible to commit. What starts out as a nice story, quickly turns to a very scary one!!Float to the US amongst some cargo, on a ship, start your MMA career, after you seem to already have brain damage, and set up of a kidnapping/torture/murder, while training for your next fight with Alexis "The Exorcist" Vila!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That said, let's get into this. We have a lot of crazy ahead of us. So let's talk about our asshole of the week as we do. And this week it is Alexis Vila Perdomo. Ever heard of him? That's a gal. No, Alexis Vila. Oh, it's a fella.

It's a fella. The Perdomo made him a woman somehow? Alexis. Alexis? That could be either way, though. Yeah, you're right. The Spanish culture, they sure do embrace that word. I don't know what it means.

It means something, right? Alex probably. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe it's. Alexis is male orphan. Like Ashley. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Ashley has turned into. If you look, too, there's this map that I saw somewhere on social media that would change over time and show the most popular names there are on the maps. And we were right, by the way. The 70s, for like eight straight years, it's just Jennifer is the number one name in every state. So when we grew up and we were little in the 80s and we had like four Jennifers in every one of our classes. Yeah, it's because everyone was named Jennifer. And then in like the mid-. Yeah, it's because everyone was named Jennifer.

And then in the mid-80s, it changes to Ashley. And it's all Ashley for like 10 years. And then it changes to Emily, and it's all Emily for like seven years. Yeah, it's wild. So people, names catch on. But Alexis wasn't in there. But he's got an interesting nickname. He goes by Alexis Vila. He drops the Per Perdomo and it's a Perdomo.

It's Alexis the Exorcist Vila. Oh, he's a fighter. He's a fighter. Yes, absolutely. No, no, actually, Jimmy. Good basketball player. No, no, no, no, no. He plays.

He plays snooker, but it's a tough sport. It's a tough sport. That snooker, you know? The exorcist. You got to be tough. He's born March 12, 1971 in Villa Clara, Cuba. He's from Cuba. That's the province. It's in northern Cuba and kind of in the middle on the north shore there.

Like the Hernandez brothers, baseball players, El Duque and Jesus, LeVon. They're both from this area, obviously. I'm like, fuck, what is his brother's name? The guy who looked 75 when he was pitching. Fucking LeVon. So that's where he's from. And I don't know if it's because he's from Cuba. He doesn't talk much about it.

He wanted to get out of Cuba. That I do know. That was the goal, was to get out. But I don't have a ton on his childhood other than he has always been a fighter like apparently he even had like as a child he was looking for street fights to get into he's just a real it's probably a real boy named sue situation i get but there's i think there's a hundred guys named alexis in the neighborhood i think probably maybe i don't think that's a i don't think that's a hindrance there for him yeah i think there's a lot of guys named alexis in the neighborhood i think probably maybe i don't think that's a i don't think that's a hindrance there for him yeah i think there's a lot of guys named alexis probably because we've talked about a hundred guys named alexis in these fights yeah russian guys and

yeah yeah spanish most wanted is named alexis yeah so i think i think alexis is a i think let's you know what it's a manly name i think it is so is. It's very Ashley of them. It's very, very, well, Ashley. No, I was going to go with, what's the, there's one that's more than Ashley even. Oh? I can't think of it now. Lauren? It'll come up. I haven't seen or met many guys named Lauren.

Really? No. Oh, I've met so many. Lauren, I've seen. L-O-R-N-E. L-O-R-E-N. That I've never seen. Never seen I've met so many. Lorne, I've seen. L-O-R-N-E. L-O-R-E-N. That I've never seen. Never seen Lorne before, but hey.

I'm going to introduce you to a few Lornes. Let's do it. Let's talk about it, Lorne. They're all sons of bitches, man. They're all fucking cowboys. Cowboys named Lorne? Yeah, it's a very cowboy name. Interesting.

Do you know that? But then Lorne is Jewish, mainly. Maybe they got it from that. Who knows'm a cowboy jewish guy that's what i am god damn it i wear a real small cowboy hat i ride the range but not on saturday if you know what i mean so uh chewing on saturday nope nope none of that stuff so um he's in a lot of street fights from a young age, which is weird because he's not like a big guy. He's at his peak. He's five foot four, 125 pounds. Wow.

He's a tiny, tiny little badass dude. Like he's but he's tiny. I mean, you could if you're big enough, you could just throw him. You know, it doesn't matter what he's trying to do to you. Just pick him up and toss him somewhere. And he started young enough to where he would be fighting much bigger guys. Oh, God, yeah. He's a kid.

So, I mean, he's really aggressive. I'll give him that. He's super aggressive. He actually wins the world champ. He's a wrestler is his main discipline, too. That's what he ends up doing. And by 1993, when he's 22, he's such a good wrestler, he wins back-to-back world championships for the Cuban national team in freestyle wrestling in his weight class in 93 and 94.

So I don't know, man. These street fights are pretty impressive, apparently. He's been good training for them. He ends up representing Cuba in freestyle wrestling in the 1996 Olympics as well. Shit. So that's the Atlanta Olympics, if you remember those. Those were a little bit active. They're marred.

Well, they're memorable. You know that much. They're memorable. I don't remember shit about gold winners, but I do know something. I do know some shit blew up, and that got real crazy real quick. I do know the park was not a great place to be. No, that was a bad place to be. So he's wrestling in the 96 games in the 105.5 pound division.

So 5'4", 105 pounds. That's a very small person. I'm shocked they found five guys in that discipline at that size. That's so tiny. That's just a tiny person. 105 pounds is little. That's my dog's weight more than that. It's almost a novelty act.

Yeah. Right? Two of my dogs weigh more than that. That's a lot. You know? Like 105 is small. My dog's only 35 pounds shy of fighting this mother that's what i mean him and oscar together would kick his ass i think they got they'd have him in weight probably

the two oscars like 55 60 pounds or something that's quite the wrestler he's quite the scrap yeah and oscar's been scrapping with frankie so i mean yeah scrapping with a dog more than twice its size for a long time. Put your paws up, sir. Put your paws up, bitches. Let's go. So he, between 93 and 96, he never placed lower than third in any world championship event. Never? Never. Always podium or better.

He is a bad motherfucker, apparently. Wow. I don't get the exorcist because okay here's what i get that it sounds cool and that it brings up a vaguely devil you know dangerous thing but an exorcist is someone who gets rid of the demons maybe he's bumbling the demons out he's gonna beat the demons out of you listen i'll choke the demon out of you that's's what I'll do. That's a badass answer. Maybe. I will dry hump the demons. You think you're badass? Watch me neutralize you. Dry hump the demons out of you. Yeah. They hate it when you do that.

I'm going to give a demon cauliflower. They hate it. They hate it when you do that. They hate when you make their ears ugly. Yeah. They hate it when you wrap your bare ankles around each other. That really makes the demons uncomfortable. And they're like, hey, listen, guys, we're going to give you some space, we feel like,

because you're doing things that we're not, I don't know, I'm a little uncomfortable. That's all I'm saying. To each his own. We're not judging you, but we're just saying for our comfort. It's just not what we're into. So we're going to go now. It's a different exorcism. this guy's making our joints hurt this is ouch this is not good make it make a demon stand ouch okay that's enough now good god is that i

he's kind of hard let's go this is not good so um he's he's a badass um he ends up being recruited somehow because he's in cube in cuba it's very difficult because when people want to recruit you they have to do it through like back channels it can't be anything like official because then the government will keep an eye on you to make sure you don't get out so you have to act like you're like oh i'm happy i happy. I'm just going to pick some sugar cane. Oh, shit, and hop on a boat and go. Like it has to – it can't be – you can't be like, you know, show your hand too much.

You have to escape. So he ended up being recruited by Michigan State University. Oh. Yeah, the Michigan State Red – Red Hessling coach, the head wrestling coach. Jesus Christ. Red Hessling. He does sound like a wrestling coach. Jesus Christ. Red Hesling. He does sound like a wrestling coach.

He does. Red Hesling. Yeah. Tom Minkle is his name, which also sounds like a wrestling coach from the Midwest. Hey, Tom Minkle here. Your kid's a hell of a grappler. Let me tell you something. He drinks a lot of coffee.

A lot of coffee. He said over that four-year stretch, he was generally regarded as the best wrestler in the world. In the world? Period. Of any weight class so okay that's impressive he's a bad motherfucker um so he yeah he gets the bronze in the olympics which good for him and then he goes on to win the gold medal at the pan-american games in puerto rico in 1997 as well so dude is crushing it. He's badass. I'm going to say it right now. Grace for him. That's it. That's going to be it

because it gets real weird from here on in, man. So he gets to the U.S. in 97. He makes his way over here in 97. He does from... This is crazy because I don't know how there's not more information on this because

this is the most interesting thing ever this is like what's his name the australian guy who shipped himself from england oh i don't know i can't remember the story terribly insane story yeah he shipped himself in cargo vila did from cuba through puerto rico and ended up going. Yeah, he shipped himself and ended up getting to Florida eventually. Much quicker trip, I imagine. Way quicker than England to Australia. He didn't have to stop four times in multiple countries and eat SpaghettiOs out of a can and piss in a bottle. Sit on a shelf for a few days. Yeah, he didn't have to do that.

But he gets there and he ends up in Florida. So he yeah. He said, quote, I just felt unsatisfied without recognition. I was a champion who lived in bad conditions. I had no future in Cuba. That's why I made the decision to change my life. So, OK, mind you, he's 33 years old when he gets here it's an old man oh no no no he i'm sorry he's only 20 23 at this point but later on he doesn't fight until way later in his life

mma style because he has a problem is a ways to get to to start uh yeah i suppose it is so uh but yeah he gets here when he's 23 through cargo and and here he is, and he's ready to start fighting. He wants to open a gym. He wants to fight professionally. He wants to do a bunch of things. Sure. So there's a guy who he meets who helps him, another Cuban guy. Red Kessling.

Name what's that? Red Kessling. Yes, it's Tom Minkello is his name. It's Alexis Tom Minkello. Manuel Marin is his name. Like Cheech Marin, but Manuel Marin. He is a Cuban guy, and he was born there, came here, and he's got other business partners. And he started out opening up bodegas in new york city in

the 80s so you know your little corner stores and later went to miami where he opened 30 presidente supermarkets okay so he's a big time he's a big time you know cuban success story yeah business entrepreneurial started little businesses and then just expanded them to big growth. Yeah. Yeah. And then these two moved, you know, these two knew each other from the Cuban community. Now, Alexis, he came over in a cargo ship and he moved to North Carolina originally. Not sure why.

And then he ended up in Michigan at Michigan State also. So he ends up going to college, actually, which is pretty cool. According to the 2001 profile on Vela on the website, the school's wrestling, you know, whatever, program website, Vela defected to the U.S. after the 97 Pan American Games in Puerto Rico where he won a gold medal. So he was he's already in the U.S. there. So he just stayed. Apparently, I'm just going to hang out and then float over to Miami or wherever the fuck he was. So he called a friend of his who had been his brother's wrestling coach in Cuba and also had defected to the United States and said, is there any way he could help him defect?

Can he help me get out too? So that's Manuel Marin. He's the guy who helped him defect, basically. And a guy that's already here and he's successful, it kind of helps you out tremendously. He's probably got some channels that most people don't have. Get you a job at least, get you set up, get help you with the legal avenues you have to go through for to try to get citizenship and all that kind of thing so he arranged this marin arranged for vila to be in one

of his cargo ships he didn't have to hide they knew he was there the crew knows he's there and stuff so he didn't have to like be in a fucking box which is helpful but he hit amongst those air chirpings that go on your roof yeah it just he's up in there watching well it spins around his head no he's he hides in with the cargo and uh that goes to florida and then once he's on the land he's from cuba so he can pop in so So yeah, no future in Cuba. And he said, I knew that I had no future. When I did not return to Cuba with my team, my mother, my family, my friends, everybody thought I was dead. He didn't tell anybody he was doing this.

That's the thing. He had to keep it hush hush. Otherwise, they would have known. He said, but when I got to Miami, I was able to contact them and tell them I was fine. So he just got out. But he claimed political asylum. And the Cuban government refused to release any of his records is the problem because they're punishing him. So including he had a degree in physical education and he couldn't use that at all.

It doesn't translate. They didn't. Yeah. They wouldn't even give him the records of it. So even if it would translate, you know. So now 1999. So this is, you know, right after he gets here, he and before he goes to Michigan State, he is convicted of petty theft and credit card fraud in Miami-Dade County. Don't know how that happened. There's very little information on it because he wasn't anybody really at the time.

He was kind of laying low, you know, just a refugee, for Christ's sake, type of situation. So not refugee, but political asylum. It's a pretty common crime there. It happens in pretty much everywhere. So I think if you look. Especially Miami-Dade. Look at, like, arrest records of towns they have like go to your mugshot local mugshot website and you'll see so many credit card fraud and identity theft and

that's just it's very common it's people it's a lot of it and they also a lot of it's for pills and shit yeah yeah but they blanket that with like it's not just a random person they stole it from it could be their grandmother's yeah we don't know but it's still assuming their identity to use it so yeah we don't know if he and this is one of those things too he could have bought a hot card on the street to to be you know to be use old school terminology could have got a hot card on the street that's i was trying to be real 40s about it it's a hot card on the street there but no he could have got a stolen card then people will say hey there's you know a limit on this to 200 i'll give it to you for 50 and i know kids that used to hustle because they'd steal credit cards and go to the gas station and be like i'll fill your tank up and

you give me half of what it costs in cash and they'd be like oh people be like yeah okay they knew they were fucking committing fraud but they didn't care they were getting half price gas i mean you know shit who cares especially if you go to like a you know an area where people don't have a lot of money like you know wherever we were hanging out all the time so none of us had any money so they're not gonna notice if it's what cards being used on the fucking pump they don't give a fuck too they're the gas station didn't care because it's a lot of charges they loved it so yeah it's everybody scamming everybody so who knows what that, but he is convicted of that. Doesn't seem to affect him, though, because he goes to college next year.

Great. By 2000, he is on the MSU, Michigan State University, wrestling team. He takes a – well, he's not on the team. He takes a job as an assistant coach for the team. I thought he was on the team. He's not. He takes an assistant coaching job on the team, which is weird. He leaves the team he's not he takes an assistant coaching job on the team which is weird he leaves

the team in 2003 okay now he's you know 32 years old at this point yeah but he's building his resume yes he is um uh the assistant wrestling coach roger chandler said that he didn't know why he left just left no no idea why so um he said later on that he left michigan after breaking up with a woman that's what he told the newspaper oh yeah you really want to see that girl yeah you don't want to see that tree that thing and none of that building my job i'll relocate oh there's that little italian restaurant no no we're going we're leaving so now i think about it yeah it's i can't can't do it i'm moving out so So that's 2003 he leaves. I don't know what he does in the first part of 2004 or late 2003, but by July 4th, 2004, I know exactly where he is.

And that's at the Fort Lauderdale Airport in Florida. How do I know that he's at the Fort Lauderdale Airport? Well, because he took his Lincoln Navigator and drove it through the doors in Terminal 3 of the airport. That is a fascinating... Go on and keep it. Yeah, you got to see the pictures of it, too. It's fucking wild, man. Why'd he do that?

Check this shit out, dude. Look at this. Roll over. Look at that. Here is the damage he did. Holy shit! Look at that. Here's the car.

He put it in the whole airport. Yeah, he bashed through.. Here's the car. He put it in the whole airport. Yeah, he bashed through, came through the wall. He just drove it through the wall. This is like not an accident. He didn't bump into it. He plowed into it at full fucking speed. They said it's going to be over. And just barely post 9-11.

This is real bad. Oh, yeah, you can't do this then. The airports were really secure, and they said it's over $100, dollars worth of damage he did to the airport too he fucked all sorts of shit up yeah i can't imagine those automatic doors and all that those are expensive probably yeah big pane of windows um so it's in the paper that he's being held um suspect is ex-wrestler from cuba is there they're ex they're calling it a terrorist attack at that point. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So a guy who, you know, yeah, well, yeah, he's not a wrestler anymore. He's a foreign national damaging your airport. Yeah, that's that's terrible.

Yeah. That's how they're going to consider it. Two thousand fucking four. Yeah. So, yeah, they said, yeah, Cuban defector that was once called one of the best freestyle wrestlers in the world. Yikes. I guess after it plowed into the southeast airlines ticket counter that used to be an airline by the way southeast southeast probably a small

regional carrier i assume right i don't fucking know probably equivalent to southwest we go from jacksonville all the way down to tampa and uh over to miami up to fort lauderdale back to jacksonville it's a loop it's a loop we do you need to get to augusta you better oh we don't hire a cab we don't fly out of the state jesus christ we're not licensed to go outside the airspace so after he plowed into the ticket he hit the ticket counter man like he didn't just unbelievable he could have killed people multiple lucky luckily nobody flies southeast airlines and there wasn't a big line to check your bags i guess yeah so he hit the wall on the top of the departure level after that so he plowed through the ticket counter and went into

a wall he didn't just like that still of him going through it was like a still from the video camera footage of him first he got all the way in him first plowing through the window. He got all the way in. Yeah. He plowed through the window and drove through the terminal, through the ticket counter, into a wall in the departures area. Unbelievable. That's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot. And then once he came to a stop, I guess, because you can only drive so far in an airport apparently.

Sure. He got out and tried to run away i mean he's a lot of places you could go he's a little guy he's gonna be real you know he can kind of get in and out of small spaces i guess blend in hide in the walls pretend you know what just stand near a family pretend you're one of the kids that's all hold the man's hand yeah grab a mickey mouse thing and hold it up and be like hey we went to disneyland too i know it's fort lauderdale but still close enough close enough what the fuck do you want from me it can't all be magic today yeah so he was quickly tackled by two sheriff's

office deputies because they were like he drew a lot of attention to himself yeah driving in they were pretty they were pretty intent on seeing whoever came out of that car and having a chit chat with him so they weren't going to just he isn't a this isn't a three shells game we see you where you this isn't a where did he go it's like holy shit okay there he is tackle him also an air marshal who had witnessed the whole thing as well. Right. So his motivation is unclear, the newspaper goes on to say. He was taken to the Broward County General Medical Center to be treated for minor injuries, and they said he could be held under the state's Baker Act,

which is to hold people that are a danger to themselves or others, so he can be held on a mental hold while they figure out what charges to charge him with for this because 51 50 is he crazy did he fucking did he uh you know have a stroke did he black out you know is he on medication is he a narcoleptic like why would you do this there's no good reason for this bananas thing to do he doesn't have like a beef with the airport he didn't you know he wasn't like bumped from first class for by southeast airlines at one point now he's seeking vengeance none of that happened they lost my bag that one time because we've all wanted to do that i'm not

gonna lie oh dear god i wanted to park it right fucking right up somebody's ass that time in boston when they lost my bag we were doing those live shows if i had a lincoln navigator and the wherewithal at any way to drive it right through the american airlines ticket counter i absolutely fucking would have right in boston logan's oh absolutely with fucking wu-tang bumping out of the shit just don't give a fuck i don't care james fitcher gallo ain't nothing to fuck yeah the f going to say the first one. Protect your neck, bitches. Not even any of the fucking albums later on. Not Triumph, you know, just because that would make sense.

No, no. Protect your neck, motherfucker. Coming through. Watch out. Raw, I'm going to give it to you with no trivia. Oh, I'm going to give it to you with no trivia. So inside the terminal, this terminal housed Air Tran, U.S. Airways, and Bahamas Air. There's glass everywhere, obviously.

There's rubble all over the place. They say, quote, a pile of rubble lay where the counter once was, which is hilarious. And in the vestibule, pieces of the ceiling were ripped out. My God. He tore this place up, man. It's wild. He hit something that dislodged ceiling and kept going, tore out more. Kept going. They go on to say travelers were terrified when an SUV drove into a terminal at the airport.

This is amazing. Also, questions are being asked about security in the future. How is it he can just drive into the airport? Well, how are you going to stop that? Yeah. Well, now they put those concrete pillars like every three feet now in front of those airports. Yeah, I guess so. The jerseys, yeah.

Yeah, like all the New York airports have those concrete terminals for the most part. It would be really hard to drive in there. Even some of the driving lanes, there's nowhere to go outside those lanes anyway no still line those with the concrete like oh you're gonna pull to the shoulder and sit here and where am i gonna go yeah by the fucking long-term parking lot yeah that's a by the quote cell phone lot what is that about by the way i don't know the cell phone lot the what we how early are you getting to the airport why the cell phone lot too like we use our phones wherever you can pull over here and use it you don't have to go to a specific lot try to keep people from jamming

up the area i get it people are picked up but how fucking early are you that you're just gonna go sit there i've never gone if i'm that early i go i park and then go in the airport to meet the person you know it's easier such an asshole than circling or sitting in a lot so circling's a nightmare apparently the people in the airport freaked out all the passengers and shit because they thought it was a terrorist attack because this is 2004 and boy were we paranoid at the airport so yeah and uh this is july 4th so it's a holiday weekend oh god it's wild man just people in their flag shirts their buttoned down flag shirts screaming running from the fort lauderdale airport out a giant hole in the fucking glass of the terminal

yeah so and then he gets out and he's cuban they don't know they're like he's dark i don't know out a giant hole in the fucking glass of the terminal. Ah! Yeah. So, and then he gets out, and he's Cuban. They don't know. They're like, he's dark. I don't know something. He said some shit. I don't know if it was Spanish, or he said ala, or I don't know what the fuck happened.

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Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. So, Alexis, so, Balsama, something. So, they ran for their lives, as they put it here. We don't know what the, why. It's a red Lincoln Navigator, by the way. Jesus Christ. He said, and here's the resident uh june

deluca is a resident she of philadelphia who is flying home she said we thought it was terrorists i thought we were all gonna die uh her cousin joanne also from pennsylvania here joanne and june from pennsylvania we're going back to scrranton, but this was crazy. Before we could get there, this is a lot. Goddamn, Al Exis is attacking. Oh, boy. She said, quote, what else could you think on the 4th of July? Terrorist attack on the

4th of July. They're taking out our greatest source of freedom, the Fort Lauderdale Airport. Oh, shit. If they get that, it's all over with man this country's gonna crumble drive a heart a stake right into the heart of democracy at the southeast airlines ticket counter at the fort lauderdale hollywood florida airport what's next jacksonville palm best palm what what could we do i think i drive a flaming truck right into a cracker barrel tallahassee ain't safe tell them up there ain't safe tell them all tell them y'all

let them know watch out kissing me they're coming for you j Jesus Christ. They said, quote, everybody started screaming. Women were crying. Somehow no one was hurt in all of this. That's unbelievable. I don't know how. I don't know if the- $100,000 in structural damage. And he plowed through a ticket counter.

Glass flew everywhere. I mean, you just imagine somebody would get glass cuts on him or something. But apparently the plowing through the glass, there was nobody right there at the time. And I would assume that's pretty loud. Everyone probably saw that and dove from the area, I would assume. That tells you how shit your airline is. Yeah, I guess there was not a lot of people there. And they said it was very light compared to the rest of the weekend.

This was 9.45 a.m.m too which is a very weird time the one of the airport spokesman people said uh airport spokesman said if this would have been yesterday there would have been a hundred people here there are times of the day when there was a queue going out the door wow um holy shit man so yeah they it's registered to him it's not like a stolen car or anything they're just trying to figure out what the fuck um they said this it was speeding outside somebody said uh one of the cops said it was going quote at a pretty good clip i'll bet no shit had made it through a ticket counter and he said he said there's not a skid mark it's not like he tried to stop there's not a skid mark the man wipes very well he's very

conscientious with his butthole i'll just say that not a little bit not one little bit so i believe he uses wet wipes nerves of steel something because i'd i'd tell you what my seat would have had a little something on it i'm just saying that so the they questioned how this could have happened obviously this became a big thing the brow Broward County Sheriff, Ken Jen, said that his agency had been recommending since September 11th that metal posts surrounded by concrete be placed between the roadways and sidewalks, but they hadn't done it yet. They said, we felt very strongly that it's in everybody's best interest to do it. They have not done it. We would continue recommending it. An automobile would have a very difficult time, if not an impossible time, getting through that.

And it would at least disable it enough to where it couldn't plow through a ticket counter. Hopefully it'll at least disable its radiator and it'll overheat in a second. Something. Well, this isn't – the weird part is this airport must just be an open invitation to drive through it or something because this happened in 1992 also at this exact terminal. Really? Yes. Another guy from Michigan, by the way, another Michigan man, John Kuzemka, who sounds like he's from Michigan, he drove through the doors of the Continental Airlines terminal at the airport but stopped before he got to the ticket counter, which is nice of him. That's good.

He told deputies that, quote, the devil made him do it. So possibly different motivations. We're not sure. But on purpose. But he definitely do it. He was charged with driving under the influence and failure to use due care. was driving under the influence and failure to use due care so in 92 when you drove through an airport you just went the devil made me do it they were like oh you poor bastard get over here whereas in 2004 they were like he's an international terrorist yeah he's here for the blood of our

children and we'll settle for nothing less otherwise it is failure to use care it is fucking amazing man i love they have the there's a newspaper thing here where they have the whole uh it's suv's path through terminal and it's got all these bullet points and they have the a picture of a lincoln navigator and it says lincoln navigator his car year 1998 horsepower weight, 5150, which is really ironic that it's in the way of it's 5150 when we're talking about driving through the airport. And the last guy said the devil made him do it. That is just nah. You can't beat that for fucking coincidence.

Oh, my God. Look at that. 204.8 inches long, 79.9 inches wide, and 75.2 inches high. So, yes, he drove through the first set of automatic doors into the vestibule, drove through the second set of automatic doors, hit the Southeast Airlines ticket counter, then hits the wall behind the counter, which was back a ways, and finally came to a rest. Because I believe there's probably, like, the luggage mechanics are back there and shit. That whole, like, belt is right there.

Yeah, there's stuff. When they pick it up and put it on that little, you know, conveyor belt, it goes back there. There's got to be a big machine that's pretty heavy set up. There's got to be another belt back there that takes it somewhere else. And then somewhere there's a motor that makes that belt move, which has to be pretty big because suitcases can be heavy. It's got to be big as shit. It's got to be big gotta be biggest shit it's gotta have as much horsepower as a navigator i would imagine the the little map of it is hilarious too because it has like little explosions of the points of him hitting it's fucking funny so the illustration yeah well

here look at the illustration here move over he's got oh yeah so here's the path of him he came over here and instead of making that left he just stayed straight right in bang bang there's another bang about a hundred feet that is right here too to the ticket counter that's a long fucking distance man so big airport that's um that's something uh he is crazy so october 19th 2004 he admits in federal court that he intentionally no shit obviously yeah rammed his suv into the airport but uh he he still wouldn't say what his motive was he wouldn't say why he just said yes i did it and i meant to and they were like why and he was like don't worry about it i don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it. Yeah. I don't want to discuss it. So was he going out with a woman who was working the ticket counter of the Southeast Airlines?

Or what was his deal, man? Or worse, did she just not have anything to do with the airport at all? And he just wanted her to see his name in the news. But what a weird thing to do. You have to be a little off to go, for whatever reason,'m not feeling right today i'm angry you know what i'm going to the fucking airport and i'm going to drive through terminal three that's a crazy thought to have what does that do for you depends on how much travel you've done if you really hate it yeah i mean like i said i've wanted to but to make me go out of my way to do it is a whole other thing right i could As soon as I leave, the rage is gone.

Yeah. I could see on the way to the airport if I had a flight. And I was like, I don't want to go on this flight. And then you plow through the airport. I could get that. I don't want to go there. But this is a completely different thing here. This is beyond.

It's very interesting. The security has now improvised some improvements at the airport they put now then by the end of the year they had 200 permanent barriers there so what they have everywhere now they also have a road that turns right in front of their door yeah that's dangerous as fuck yeah if you don't have anything to block a car it can get speed up coming down the thing and just plow right through the windows. That is definitely a thing. Wow, Jesus, that's wild. Some poor bastard just got off a terrible flight and now he gets hit by a Lincoln Navigator in the airport.

What a mess. Oh, God. I thought the flight sucked. Jesus. He pleads guilty to U.S. District Court Judge Donald Graham to intentionally using a motor vehicle to seriously damage and disrupt an international airport, which I did not know was a law specifically. That's got to be a new law. That's a specific law. Yeah. Intentionally using a motor vehicle to seriously damage and disrupt an international airport.

Very specific. If it's a regional airport, that's a whole other bag of worms there. That's the difference between murder and manslaughter. Yeah, that's a lot. He faces up to 20 years in prison with this plea. I guess the only thing that he will say, so you know it's a lie. That's why I say his motivation is still kind of a mystery, is he says he got lost while driving. Got lost while driving and ended up at the airport.

Got lost and ended up taking the wrong exit and ended up at the airport. So rather than circle and look for an exit, he decided I'll just go. The quickest route is the way the crow flies, which is through the airport. We're going as the crow flies. You're not going to go all the way around now and loop it? Fuck this. Wow. But if I get through this terminal, I go through another, and then that's where the road out is at.

I'm sure that's the other side. Yeah, that takes me back to where I was going. Okay, this is an exit. There are some airports that I've gotten into that i was just like i can't what is i don't know how to get out of here i've lost it especially the phoenix yeah there's been a oh a police chase where a guy got in there and couldn't get out i've been stuck he got caught when i first moved there i've been stuck where the fuck yeah 44th what god damn it is that the east valley this doesn't make any sense i don't want to go to Mesa. What the hell's going on? It's bad.

So his public defender, though, during this, he says that his client didn't deliberately ram it through Terminal 3. He said, quote, this is the understatement of the year, quote, it was just a bad accident. It was a bad accident? What are you talking about? There's no no skid marks he didn't stop till a wall stopped him he gassed it through the ticket counter that's not an accident the lawyer said it wasn't it was just a bad accident it wasn't like he was driving around looking to drive through the airport it was reckless driving he wasn't paying a whole lot of attention there's a fucking airport there okay if he hit a kid on a fucking tricycle and said i wasn't paying attention i go yeah

he's lower than the hood i could see that the airport is a huge building i don't even know that with planes wasn't you can't you can't lead with it's a bad accident and then say he wasn't paying a lot of attention i mean that's how that's an accident i guess not paying a lot of attention but that leans right into uh so careless an accident's gonna happen well that's i guess for sentencing it's important for them to say you know not on purpose i guess is better than meant to drive through an airport which which could kill people. And, I mean, obviously, Jesus Christ, how dangerous is that? That's insane.

Deleting intent from the whole argument is enormous. Yeah, you can't miss it. So he was driving 45 miles an hour, which is three times the speed limit on that terminal road. It's a 15-mile-an-hour. Yeah, 15 miles an hour. Yeah, there's people everywhere. He is jamming through there um which so in court they're talking about you know all of this shit uh he wasn't paying a whole lot of

attention what a dumb thing to say at the airport um he and of course why would he try to flee do you think he'd get out confused holy shit who put the airport here where did they put an airport with this i thought this was a cornfield i think they've got a better argument with he's 5-4 he couldn't see over the steering that would have been good he didn't left his phone book at home these things would have all been fine dr jones was gone oh at 9 45 too jesus christ at the time of the accident by the way he said he was suicidal as well and um friends of his because they're trying to figure out why friends of his say he might have had problems trying to obtain citizenship so he was

angry at that so they were that was what they were speculating but who knows um i guess he wanted to compete for the u.s and the olympic team and they thought maybe that was part of it too i don't know how that's going to help. That's definitely going to work against you, my friend. Driving your car through the airport, 105.5 pound division, isn't looking for any new applicants right now. Less than three years post 9-11. I mean, what are you doing?

Oh, my God. This is nuts. So I guess he had arrived in Florida a couple days before because his half brother lives down there so that makes sense um his lawyer said and this is also one of the dumbest things a lawyer has ever said in court quote there isn't a shred of proof that he was trying to hurt anyone or hurt himself except except the fact that he drove a lincoln Navigator 45 miles an hour into an area where there's just people standing around most of the time. That means I don't give a fuck. Into a fucking airport.

Yeah. At the very least, it's complete disregard for if anyone is hurt or not. It's himself included. He's driving into an area where people shit loads of people are on foot think about that he hasn't even done anything in sports yet also besides the olympics by the way he's going to be a professional fighter everyone some foreshadowing weird right because he's in his 30s and just drove through a fucking airport seems really weird that he would then mount an athletic career after that.

But, hey, you know what? On crime and sports, anything's possible. That's why we love this show. When you wish upon a star, anything is possible, even if you want to drive through the Fort Lauderdale Airport. I believe that's how the rhyme goes. Jiminy Cricket. That's how Disney said it, right?

I think. So, wow. He also told a woman nearby that he was disoriented and depressed. And he said, I didn't know where I was. I reached, this is his excuse in court. I didn't know where I was. I reached down to pick up a cell phone that had fallen. And without realizing it, I hit the i hit the accelerator quote the rest is

confusing for me well what are you 87 years old confusing for everyone sir this is holy shit same excuse as your grandfather with dementia gives when he barrels into a 7-eleven no fuck what a holy shit so he ends up uh getting sent to federal prison i don't know what his uh sentence ended up being but he ended up serving three years in federal prison for it so three years that's a good amount of time yeah to serve when you're hoping to mount an athletic career and you're in your 30s generally not a good thing for you time is definitely of the essence totally um so when he gets out of jail though in 2007 he is ready to be an mma fighter he has a nick he's worked out his nick like he he sat in his cell going i'm gonna draw little drawings what my shorts are

gonna look like and like my name is the exorcist now that sounds cool, and that's what he did here. So on December 11, 2007, fresh out of federal prison, four subpar mental things, too. That's the other problem. His head isn't great at this moment. I'm going to go out on a limb here again. He's going into it with scrambled eggs. And he's going to go get hit in the head? Are you fucking kidding me? He's going to fight MMA?

But he does. In Fort Lauderdale, Florida, nonetheless, he fights. So did they advertise it as come see the crazy? Remember that guy who drove through the airport a few years ago? Want to see him fight a guy? That's a pretty good advertisement. I might go see that. Wouldn't you?

It's not bad. Remember the craziest guy ever? We got him in a ring fighting. How wild is this? We got him doing crazy shit. Come through. We penned him in. We've concentrated all that crazy into one direction.

It's going to be fun. We've taken the car away from him. Come in. Yeah. Well, you know what? We might give it to him. Who knows? We'll see.

We'll see how the night goes. Maybe he could just drive it into the ring and hit the guy with the car and then keep going. That'll be the fight. 1-0. It's his finishing move. It's his finishing move. Run your ass over. So this is CHF, which is Crazy Horse Fights.

That's what he wrote. Oh, is it Crazy Horse? What? Is it his production? I don't think so. No, no, no, because that's with a K. He was Crazy Horse with a k he had he was crazy horse with a k this is crazy horse fights that guy can't mount a fucking he can't mount much at all you

think he's gonna fill out paperwork that's proper to where they let him do the event i don't know that he can write i don't know that he knows his name at this point he's been nuts so he fights steve nelson who was four-0 coming into this whole deal, so not bad. You know what I mean? He's fighting a guy who's actually won fights, never lost one. He'll finish out his career 5-2, Steve Nelson,

so not a Hall of Famer exactly. Didn't hang out. No, this fight goes into the second round, and at 3-52, Alexis wins with a submission here, a guillotine choke. And that's that, and he's 1-0. By the way, right under that, there's an advertisement in case you don't want to. In case the MMA fights for that night, because there's an advertisement for the fights. Right under it here, though, you can go see, where the fuck is this?

the fights right under it here though you can go see where the fuck is this um um the uh it's some dania damia beach dania dania beach okay you can go see poker ponies and high lie hey oh baby what does that mean that's right you can oh there's commas in a lot of yeah a lot of shit to gamble it's all shit to gamble on. You can also see all the NFL games. There's $1 beer, hot dogs, and sodas. That sounds tremendous. Wednesday night, 16-ounce draft beers, hot dog with fries, soda, ice cream,

and margaritas, and frozen pina coladas, all 99 cents each. Wow. Wow, that sounds, there's going to be vomit on the floor. That doesn't exist anymore. No, there's vomit on the floor anymore no there's vomit on the floor there that is a for sure you can play texas hold them there and they're simulcast high lie greyhounds harness thoroughbreds and you can fucking bet everything so that's i want to know what high lie is it's that thing where the guys have like the like the scoop thing on their

hand like a like a scooper. You know what I mean? It looks like a dust buster without the bottom. Where you can rock the ball? Yeah, it looks like they took the bottom off a dust buster, and it's just the top, and you're flinging a ball out of it. The people have those for their dogs. It's that.

I used to do that when I was a kid. Yeah, I don't know what the goal of the game is, but it was mildly popular. That's a great point. They tried to make a big deal out of it in the 70s, if I want to say. People with money backed it and tried to make it a big deal. It was on TV for a while, on ABC or something. But then it fizzled, and then it just became old people in Florida bet on it. They don't even know if they know what they're betting on, but they're betting on it.

I'll bet the hooks are blue. Well, you can just say, I'll bet a bet a dog a horse and that team in high lie you know and that was you could bet on all those things and then have 99 cent hot dogs and shit and see if you win anything that's fine like a decent day as i said it's not a bad day if you're 75 years old and looking for a slow pace that's not bad so september 27 2008 now so he waits nine months to fight again he's in albuquerque new mexico poor bastard uh at warpath is the name of the promotion here warpath i don't like that very much no he fights tyler taz weathers old taz here uh taz is three and2 coming into this fight, 8-9 for his career. Taz versus The Exorcist. Who's going to win? We've all wanted to know that forever. Well, it's a unanimous decision. It goes all three rounds, and The Exorcist comes out on top over T Miami. This is G-Force Fights, which is the sister organization of G-Spot Fights,

which is a very different fight. It really is. Somebody's going to come either way. I was going to say, the winners are calculated in a way different way. Put it that way. People aren't sad to lose that one. So Bad Blood 1 is the name of the event. He fights Ralph Acosta, who's known as the Spider Monkey.

Yeah, there's a bunch of them. That's a very common name. The Spider Monkey. He's 3-1 coming in, 17-14 for his career. Okay. So this only goes one minute, though, this fight. Oh. Because Alexis wins with a TKO with only goes one minute though this fight oh because alexis wins with a tko with punches in one minute so is that right he punched the shit out of this guy in a minute and one

spider monkey so he's three and oh now alexis is december 13 2008 these are a lot of fights november september november december this is at the american airlines arena in miami florida that's a big one that's a big one anything with an airlines i don't know i'm worried about him going there he might get confused and drive his car into the fucking plow through the ticketing area as well go ahead and fight yeah why not uh this is mfa mixed fighting alliance and the name of this car, the name of the event, Jimmy? You can Mad Lib it because they all have the same. What do you think it is?

Ice Age. There Will Be Blood. There you go. There you go. So 2008, the movie. That was out too. So there you go. Ian Wolfe he fights, who is 0-0 coming in.

It's a debut for Ian Wolfe. Brand new man. And Ian Wolfe, his MMA career lasts a grand total of 35 seconds. Oh. Because he never fights again and loses by submission to a rear naked joke and goes, well, that was ridiculous. Yeah, it must have been real painful. I'm never doing that again.

His entire career is 35 seconds long. That is awesome. Yeah. 4-0 for Alexis. So February 6, 2009 at the Tachi or Taki Place, a palace, hotel, and casino in Lemoore, California. And this is PFC, best of both worlds. PFC. Yeah.

He's in the main event that night oh actually that's how shitty this organization is they have a 37 year old fucking guy who drove through an airport in their main event who only has four fights under his belt professional fighting championship i guess you can tout that he's an olympian an olympic medalist and a world champion wrestler i'd tell criminal that's yeah also he's crazy he's technically very well skilled and insane so yeah what's gonna happen who knows anything could happen he might take your legs out he might drive through the ring we have no idea we have no he might bring a flamethrower we have no clue so he fights ben nguyen or uh nguyen or the vietnamese name that when yeah that everybody in las vegas has on their

name tags that's right yeah at all the casinos uh and it's i guess it's when uh when because it's his name is ben ten when oh ten is his nickname not bad yeah uh five and one career for him he'll finish 16 and nine uh this fight goes into the second round where alexis wins knocks him out with a punch alexis is tough as shit he's a tough little bastard yeah he is well think about it he's like hardened he's he's like you know he's like a prison yeah he's like when they bash iron shit and you hit it with the hammer while it's all red. That's what he is. He's been tempered and worked over and, you know, he's hardened now. Stretched and heated more.

And then put in the water where and he's all now he's hard. He went to prison. Flames come out. Yeah. He went to prison. He was street fighting. He's winning. He's in the Olympics.

He's had a long life so far. He's a tough kid. Christ. He's winning. He's in the Olympics. He's had a long life so far. He's a tough kid. Christ, he's ready. He's close to retirement already. So September 26, 2009 at the Bank United Center in Coral Gables, Florida. This is G-Force. G-Force fights again. Again, yeah.

Bad Blood 2. Oh, man. Cody Belly fights. Cody Bell's 8 and 6 coming in, and this will be Cody Bell's last fight. Alexis is going to exercise the will to fight from Cody's body is what he's going to exercise. And TKO with punches in the second round. 6-0 for Alexis. So he's doing very well.

April 30, 2010. Miami Beach Convention Center, Miami, Florida, MFA New Generation 1. Sure, there's going to be dozens and dozens of those. There will be 36. He's in the main event again. Great. This time versus Sean Hall, who's 3-1 coming in. And this fight, again, TKO with punches in the second round.

So he fucks around with you in the first round. And then if you can't hang with him, I guess he knocks your ass out in the second round. I guess. Which it's weird that he's a world champion and Olympic level wrestler. And he's winning the last three fights with punches. Hammering people. That's so strange. And he's so small.

And he's so small. When I was watching his fights, he's like shorter than everybody so small and he's so small when i was watching his fights he's like shorter than everybody else too everybody's like five seven you know 125 pounds and he's five four and a half but he's got reach he's he's got a reach longer than the guys who are three four inches taller than him huh in all of his fights so So I think. Bizarrely put together. Yes. Yeah. Strangely put together. So 7-0. June 25th, 2010. MFA New Generation 2.

There you go. Back with a vengeance here. He's in the main event again where he fights Omar Baby Sass Chowdhury. Baby Sass. Baby Sass. I don't know what the fuck that means he throws fits james but it's not scary i will say that granted i'm sure he could kick both of our asses at the same time but you don't have goldfish he will throw a tantrum but if we were on the ground bleeding together

we'd be giggling over his his name is Baby Sass. He'd be tired of beating us by the time we would still be laughing at his name. Old Baby Sass. Old Baby Sass. 13 and 7 coming in here, Old Baby Sass. And this goes into the third round. TKO with punches again for Alexis. Again.

So he's punching the shit out of people. I don't know if it's that they he thinks they expect him to wrestle so he punches i don't know what it is more if he's just it's gotta be right i suppose too if you're street fighting when you're seven in cuba you probably know how to punch a little bit so he's they're probably not wanting to go to the ground with him because he can probably not you want to stand up he's an olympic wrestler but you're not as good as him at wrestling yeah you're not as good as him probably he fights like his life depends on it yeah because it does he's you know was in federal prison before this so the uh my a miami mma marketer named frank morajan mori morion uh he said that he met Alexis at a couple of events,

and he said for four years he was riding high, winning and winning. He's only 5'4". Every small guy has something to prove. When you talk to him, he was all over the place. When I talked to him, he was at 100 miles an hour. You know, maybe he's a little nuts, which is probably you would expect that. He's a rambler. He's a rambler.

He's insane. Papa was a Rolling Stone and had brain damage is the problem. So he is February 12, 2011. He's like 40 years old now. This is wild. At the U.S. Century Bank Arena in Miami again. MFA, new generation four. So there's he Arena in Miami again. MFA New Generation 4. So there's...

He's in 75% of them. They're really trying to make a thing out of this. He's in the main event again against Louis Houdini McKenzie. Yeah. Houdini. He's going to escape from your shit. He's 11-5 coming into the fight. He'll finish his career 13-13.

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fight and then passed away so nine and oh for alexis now he's starting to run a gym now where he's training people as well because he is 40 and he has to know that this isn't going to be like he's not going to be world champion for 10 years yeah so he's running american top gym or american top team is the name of it it's a gym in kendall florida i guess where he trains mma fighters okay that's what he's doing one of the guys he trains is a guy named ariel the panther gandula or gandu uh do you or whatever the fuck g-a-n-d-u-l-l-a so depends on where he's from he uh he he is is an MMA fighter. The Panther, we'll call him, because, I mean, that's a cool name.

The Panther's hanging out with The Exorcist. And in the spring of 2011, the Panther started coming into this gym, meets Alexis and meets all the people and hangs out. While he's training here in 2011 he hears some uh gym associates just some people he knows from the gym talking about a job that's being offered by manual marin okay a job so he runs a shit lotus yeah the grocery king so maybe he's got like a i don't know like a regional vice presidency open or something produce guy yeah he's a big fight fan too so that's how they all know him and uh yeah he owns south florida presidente supermarkets all of them so um what ends up

going on here is there's a guy uh named salazar camilo salazar. And Jenny Marin, who is Manuel Marin's wife at the time, estranged or whatever. Yeah, Jenny, she goes by. Another Jennifer. She meets with Salazar, Camilo Salazar, we'll talk about who he is, for coffee in February 2011. So Manuel Marin apparently was having her followed or something at the time because he confronted them while having coffee. Oh.

And took his wife and left. Takes Jenny and leaves. Makes a scene. She gets out of the car and jumps into a taxi and takes off. Okay. So this is a mess. Screaming. Boy, boy.

There's coffee and yelling, and then he leaves with her. She jumps out of the car, gets in a taxi. He's trying to follow it. It's a mess. She goes to a friend's house. So Manuel Marin is uber pissed off. He is just angry as shit. And now he doesn't have his wife to take it out on because she took off.

So he gets out of the car, goes back into the cafe, and wants to fight Camilo Salazar instead. That's not a good idea. Yeah. So the problem is this doesn't stop the relationship between Jenny and Salazar, apparently. They keep seeing each other. So this is the job that we're talking about. So the Panther, he,

uh, he hears that the job is to help kidnap Salazar. That's the job. Holy shit. Yeah. That's what's going on here. So, um,

he knew, um, he knew, he knew Vila originally from a gym called the Young Tigers Gym where they trained together. And he said that he started getting involved, the Panther did, in 2011. In May of 2011, when the Panther was at the gym, he overheard Vila, another guy named Isaac that we'll talk about, and an unidentified man talk about the job for Marin. Quote, unquote, the job. Because Jenny's cheating on marin and

marin doesn't like he doesn't like it so he's gonna recruit fighters to i guess you know rough this guy up scare him yeah we leave her well apparently he confronted him marin confronted salazar and that didn't do anything that so he said well maybe i gotta get some tougher guys basically i'm a businessman maybe i get some badasses they basically. I'm a businessman. Maybe I get some badasses. They do it. So everyone knew Marin. He hangs around in the local fight circles. He's rich. He helps these gyms, too.

He gives some money sometimes. So that's the plan. The other guys involved are Roberto Isaac. That's the other guy. And Alexis here, the exorcist as well. So this happens in early June of 2011. june 1st as a matter of fact the earliest june you can get so uh camilo salazar is described as a family man who also fucks around on the side but that's fine ones other people's families but yeah active in church

um helps raise money for his parish saint steph, where he and his wife would plan events like the annual arts show. He's married also. Oh, absolutely married. He's married with a church arts show, which no bigger supporter of the arts than the church traditionally. They love it. They love self-expression and finding the boundaries of human expression. Nothing more than that. Meanwhile, some of their art is

the ugliest on the planet and some is great also michelangelo painted amazing religious things that are wonderful but yeah you know he's lucky the church didn't burn him at the stake for it he's lucky they liked it is what i'm getting at back then they were a little touchy for a long for a long time too i'm sure they got what they paid for no shit so um he did all things like that they had a new baby he and his wife as well uh lives in a secluded wooded coconut grove neighborhood a nice nice little house um he and his wife daisy both have busy careers they run an events plan his wife runs an events planning company and and one of her clients is Volvo. So she was, during this time, organizing a big event.

Camilo's 43. He was the vice president in a number of business ventures with his father, Eduardo Salazar, who's a real estate investor. So on June 1st, Camilo drops off the infant daughter at his wife's office. She goes to work, and then when he leaves to go wherever, he drops the baby off with her. This is about 10.30 a.m. He realized he left the baby's pacifier in the car. When he dropped the baby off, he was like, ah, fuck, I've got to go out to the car and get the pacifier. I left it in the car.

He never comes back in. Okay. So she's like, what the hell she goes out where where is he you know what's going on well turns out he's abducted from the street wow yeah um so yeah that's that's wild i guess uh the panther had got a phone call just before 8 a.m from isaac and uh the panther would say later quote he wanted me to go with him to cash a check because somebody owed him money. So within a few minutes, Isaac showed up at the Panther's apartment driving a white four-door pickup truck that he said that Marin had rented for him. So it's a rental.

Panther said, sure, I'll go along. Panther said, sure, I'll go along. So they drove to the 2400 block of the, oh my God, Inagua Avenue. Inagua? I don't know what the fuck that is. Who cares? In Coconut Grove. I do not care about Coconut Grove in the slightest.

Fuck that place. Where Salazar lived. Okay? That's where they're going. Isaac claimed that Salazar owed him money. That's what he was telling the panther. At least that's what the panther says. Now, they parked and watched the house for a bit.

As you do when someone owes you money. You just stalk them. Yeah. So Isaac said he'd been watching Salazar for a few days and knew the family routine and that Salazar drove his wife to work every morning. Okay. So then the two drove to where Salazar's wife worked, which was on Southwest 31st Avenue. They parked down the street and they waited. They saw Salazar walk out of the building toward his SUV,

and the Panther would say, Roberto drives fast and goes right behind him. He said that Roberto Isaac then grabbed some plastic zip ties. This doesn't sound like cashing a check or collecting money anymore. And clipped a walkie-talkie on his waist. It's real dangerous in these banks sometimes. Well, this is to pose as a police officer. Okay.

I have zip ties and a walkie-talkie, which means obviously police officer to me. Not badge or gun or any of that. More about zip ties and walkie-talkie, which means obviously police officer to me, not badge or gun or any of that. More about zip ties and walkie-talkies are what I look for. So, wow. Isaac jumped out of the truck and approached Salazar and cuffed him behind his back. He just like bum-rushed him and was like, police, blah, blah, blah, you know, grabbed him, zip-tied his hands. Salazar, the panther said he seemed seemed confused but he didn't put up a fight he was saying what's going on here what's going on um so isaac takes salazar's car keys and gives

them to the panther who puts them in uh in the uh in the suv in the guy's suv okay so by the way when he does that the panther touches the outside of the SUV and leaves a fingerprint on it. Idiot. Idiot. So that's not good. Why not just take the keys and throw them somewhere? So phone records will corroborate that Isaac and the Panther were together near their home, the cell tower pings, near the Salazar home in Coconut Grove there. So they get Salazar tied up in the back seat and they drive away.

Now, Panther said he repeatedly called Vila, who was in Las Vegas at the time. He said, I wanted to ask him what was going on. And Vila kept blowing it off, saying he couldn't talk right now. So Vila recruited him for this and didn't tell him that, hey, we're going to zip tie a guy and throw him in the back of the fucking truck and take him away. Yes. According to, according to the Panther.

So the Panther kept asking, which in the cell phone records match up to that. He keeps calling Vila going, what the fuck? Vila's blowing it off. So they arrive at Isaac's home. He's going to say, why not take your work home with you?

That's nice. The kids. Yeah. You know, they're going to want to see this, what dad does for a living. Isaac's home. Why not take your work home with you? That's nice. Yeah, you know, they're going to want to see this, what dad does for a living. How else are they going to have any respect for the guy for Christ's sake? So, he said that the Panthers sent an unidentified man from the gym, the guy who was talking with Vila when he

first heard about this. He came in and helped Isaac carry Salazar into the house. The body, yeah. Yeah, he's zip-tied here. So the Panther said that he'll say later he stayed in the rental pickup truck for at least two hours, repeatedly calling both Vila and Isaac to find out what was going on and what was happening inside the house.

And phone records corroborate that, including calls to Isaac, who was in the same place geographically, but repeated calls to him over a two-hour period. So it's not, he's probably outside in the truck. He's probably telling the truth. So he said that Roberto Isaac told him to wait for him out in the car and that nothing was going on. Nothing's going on. Don't worry about it.

Just wait out there. Okay? So the panther said, finally, Isaac and the mystery gym guy come outside carrying Salazar, who is now also bound by the feet as well. Oh. So now it's not just his hand. And they shove him into the back cab of the rental truck. They drive north, according to cell phone records.

By this point, Isaac tells Salazar that he has a problem with someone else's wife. That's what he's telling him. He's got a problem with someone else's wife. So they drive near Fort Lauderdale in a warehouse district where they meet Marin. Manuel Marin's there. So that's where they're taking him. He's driving a blue SUV. Marin is.

So Salazar sits up and sees Marin. Now the Panther says, quote, he looks at the other vehicle and he starts saying that he has problems with that man. He became upset. He's starting to figure out what's going on here yeah um so uh they open up the truck isaac and marin do and they pull salazar out and shove him into marin's suv oh god okay a white plastic tarp covered the back seat by the way which is a bad sign yeah someone put you in a car that's all tarped up. That's not good. And you know that you have a problem with this man.

This man hates you. Oh, yeah. The Panther said, quote, he was struggling and he was saying, why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? So Isaac said, he tells the Panther that they're going to, quote, give the man a beating. And they thought that the Panther was going to jump. Hey, help out. Yeah, you help out, too, since you're good at this and all. He'll be a professional fighter, the Panther was going to jump. Hey, help out. Yeah, you help out too, since you're good at this and all.

He'll be a professional fighter, the Panther here. So the Panther said that he didn't go that far, wouldn't do it. He said while everybody else put him in Marin's SUV, the Panther said he started up the rental truck and drove off and went home. Took off. He said, quote, I was scared. I want nothing to do with this. Didn't want any part of that shit.

So they end up driving. This is Isaac and Marin. They drive Salazar out to a rural area east of Okeechobee. Yeah. Or Okeechobee Road near Northwest 137th Avenue. God damn it. Where they just have some fun with him for a while. Oh, boy.

They torture him. Yeah. They end up slitting his throat as well, but not before they set his genitals on fire. Whoa. Yeah, that's part of the torture. Set his whole bottom half on fire then they slit his throat

then they just burn up his body they set him on fire anyway yeah their phones by the way will be tracked to the area where the body will eventually be found here and Florida Sun Pass which is you know when you're driving

to go through toll shit you know what I mean yeah Florida Sun Pass, which is when you're driving to go through toll shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. Florida Sun Pass marks them placed Marin's SUV in the area at the time of the murder as well. That is a bummer about toll roads. You can't shake that. Your car was there. You can't just throw a quarter in a thing anymore.

There's an electronic thing. Tracking, finding every fucking route you took. Yep. Holy shit. Also, the Panthers' cell phone records show that his cell phone was never near where Salazar was taken, and instead it tracks back to exactly what he said back to his apartment. So he told the truth about it. Now, when he gets home, he keeps calling Vila

because Vila was the guy who put this all together. Vila later apologized for getting him involved and told him to shut the fuck up about it. Listen, sorry you're upset about it, but... I realize I got nothing to hold over your head, but, you know. Not really anything to talk about right now so later that night after dark isaac and marin showed up to the panthers apartment to get the rental truck um isaac didn't appear to have blood on him but he said something was off

he said that he quote smelled of gas panther said that i that the guy smelled of gas not good yeah um before they drove off here isaac uh says that marin paid him twenty thousand dollars so um now panther said he never saw anybody again again any of these guys or anybody associated with the gym either he just stopped going there so later that night when marin uh when they got back to the house, Jenny, his wife, Marin's wife, saw Manuel with a hat on and saw that the other guy had a fresh set of clothes on. So they were like, okay. Manuel Marin goes to the airport three days later and flies to France and disappears.

Takes off. I'm really craving them. You know what I could really use right now? Fuck, one of those baguettes that you just need to eat it on the street. Nice declare. So the next day, June 2, 2011, the burned and mutilated body of Camilo Salazar is found in the Florida Everglades. The medical examiner said that Salazar's hands had been bound and that he received multiple blows to the face and head, which resulted in a fractured skull and jaw. And they said that a hard object like a golf club was used during the beating.

Holy. Not like anyone in Florida has golf clubs, right? Right. So he said after he was beaten, Salazar's throat was slit with a knife or a box cutter, and they said he was still alive and that he kneeled over onto his back, and after this, gasoline was poured onto his genitals and a fire was lit. They believe he was still alive when that happened. That's crazy. So this was,

this was brutal. This was fucking brutal. Um, uh, his truck, which is a 2002 Chevy trailblazer was found parked where they had it there originally. Um,

so, wow. Um, this is interesting. Now in the business area where he disappeared right outside his wife's office there they said that the police never interviewed anybody around there they shouldn't no the press came around ask anything there no i mean it's just the site of the kidnapping who would he was just taken off the streets in broad fucking daylight at 10 30 in the morning nobody would have seen that right i mean honestly really

wow who knows it's florida they may not have they may not have that's what i mean who knows they forgot they said uh the neighbor said though they didn't know what happened they heard from around what happened but they didn't know much about it but they were pretty freaked out about it you know people are being kidnapped outside the office obviously so the this this is right across the street from the baseball fields and tennis courts used by the local boys and girls club so you know yeah they do say that other than a few vagrants in the area there's really been no serious crime though it's not a not a big deal um they't, police don't realize that the disappearance is linked with this body because they don't know who this person is

until a day later. And then they get an ID from the medical examiner and they go, oh, okay, that's what that is here. His pastor called him a wonderful human being and said, we're all just in a state of shock. The director of the church's art show, they said, quote, I need to respect their wishes and not talk anymore about it. They're blown away by it, how bad this is. So September 24th, 2011, BFC Bellator Fighting Championships 51.

They don't know who did this. They just know he's out there, found in a field. There's no anything to go with this other than, shit, how do we figure this out? So he fights, Vela fights Joe Warren, who's 7-1. He's a 15-8 career fighter. This is one minute and four seconds into the first round. Alexis wins by

KO with a punch, so knocks his ass out. Fantastic. October 22, 2011, he is in the Kokopa Casino in Yuma, Arizona. Yikes. Oh my god. Good lord. I'd rather do it in a parking lot than anywhere else. Oh, Jesus.

This is Bellator Fighting Championships 55, where he fights Marcos Loro Galvao. 10-4 coming in. This is a split decision. Goes all the whole distance. Split decision, but a win for Alexis. He's 11-0. Look, it's exhausting being in Yuma.

You can't. You don't have much. It'll suck the will to live out of you. I was going to say, when your brain doesn't work, then your body is going to follow. So November 26, 2011, Caesars Hotel and Casino, Atlantic City, New Jersey. Bellator Fighting Championships, 59. He fights Eduardo Dududontis. Dudu.

D-U-D-U, not D-O-O-D-O-O. But still, Dudu is not a great name. He's 12-2 coming into this fight. 23-7 he'll be for his career. This fight goes the whole distance, and it is a unanimous decision loss for Alexis. Really? That's his first loss, yeah. Dudu shitted on him.

Dudu shitted on his whole plan. He is 40, so, I mean, you know. Yeah. Not great. Do-do shit it on him. Do-do shit it on his whole plan. He is 40, so, I mean, you know. It's not easy. You ready to go professional MMA fighting right now, Jimmy? That on your horizon? He's four inches smaller than me. No way. Four?

Come on, Jimmy. So, April 13, 2012. Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City, New new jersey bellator fighting championship 65 he fights luis alberto noguera noguera noguera 11 and 2 coming in and this one is uh this one will go the distance again unanimous decision loss again for alexis so it's over 11 and 2 now he's fucking all up april 26 2012 he gets married though because you know how things go and we always say in crime and sports when everything is going well when you've just participated in a horrible kidnap torture murder um and your career is in the shitter and you're 40 years old and well aged out of your career as well things are going well you need to get married add another person to this mix that's all that will

help a man named doodoo has ruined your life doodoo beat you but adriana marries you so okay they get married in miami but they later divorce pretty quickly of course we'll find out why she later married and is still married currently to Joel Casamayor, the boxer. Is that right? Yeah, another Cuban, too. Also, Alexis has a daughter in Cuba somewhere. Really? So before he left, he had a daughter.

Never got her out, I guess. So January 19, 2013, the Bank United Center, Coral Gables, Florida, where dreams come true. This is CFA 9, Night of Champions. He fights Josh the Gremlin Sampo, who's 8-2. And this is, this goes, it's in the fifth round. The other ones were three rounders. This is five. Two minutes and 26 seconds into the fifth round, Alexis loses by submission to a guillotine choke so 11 and 3

not going well may 24th 2013 and coral g-A-R, Czar Sklavos. His nickname? Guess. I'll give you. I'll give you. The executioner. The gunfighter. Yeah.

Czar Sklavos says Old West to me. Just shouts it out. Seven and two again coming. Everybody's seven and two. Gunfighter in a sport where those aren't allowed. No guns allowed. This goes the entire distance again. Three rounds this time, though.

Unanimous decision. Win for Alexis this time. So having a hard time ending them here. September 11, 2013 at the Bongo's Cuban Cafe in Miami. He fights for CFA Fight Night 1 one he's in the main event versus wascar it's like nascar with a w wascar wascar cruise known as elmer fudd's kid wascar yeah he's a wascally wascar wabbit I hate Waskar. His nickname, La Avispa.

La Avispa. He's 5-2 coming in, and this is a win for Alexis. Submission with a guillotine choke in the first round. October 26, 2013, back in Coral Gables, fighting Josh Reddinghaus, known as The Finisher. Yeah. Well, where are you going to finish, Chief? Hopefully it's not on me. What's his record?

Well, his finishing move is once you're knocked out, he stands over you and fucking busts one on you. Yeah. Stands over and turns it into a Bukkake film. Nine and two coming in. Not bad. This is a unanimous decision loss again and uh it was tough yeah he had to take the finisher after that poor alexis so he was very upset after this match leaving with goo on him that's right 13 and 4 january 18 2014 seminal hard rock hotel and

casino hollywood florida and uh this is the World Series of Fighting 8. He fights Saidmar Hanario. Okay. Yeah, he's 8-4 coming in. This is a unanimous decision again. Win for Alexis this time, 14-4. August 9, 2014. This is at the Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Vegas, actually. Holy shit this is at the hard rock hotel and casino in Vegas.

Actually. Holy shit. It doesn't even exist anymore. No way. Knock that. Yeah. That's something else now, right?

Yeah. But, uh, is it virgin? Something. I stayed there once years ago in like 2004. It was fucking, the rooms were fucking cool.

Yeah. They were cool. They had like cool, like, you know, rock pictures like the, the TV. They had cool rock pictures. The TV, they had special channels that showed nothing but old concerts all the time.

It was pretty cool. Yeah, it was dope. Not that we were in the room, but still. This is Brandon Hempelman, he fights, who's known as Hot Rod. Brandon Hot Rod Hempelman. He's 9-2 coming in. Un unanimous decision again

here for alexis 14 and five uh the next fight february of 2015 there's still murder stuff's going to happen by the way um he this is uh magic city casino in miami uh fight time 23 mayhem in miami he's in the main event versus mar Ador who is 8-2. Again, this is a loss for him in the first round where he is knocked out with a knee to the body. Oh, shit. Oh, that's got to hurt

so bad. Yeah, it really hurts when you're 44 years old, too. That hurts a lot more. Please stop doing that. It would be the end of the fight. Please stop. That'll give you so much heartburn and indigestion. Oh, man. 14 and 6 now. So he was 11 and 0 at one point.

June 10, 2016. He's 45 years old. This is in Coral Gables again. He fights Abdiel Velasquez, known as the Nightmare. He's 6 and 2 coming in in and this is a majority decision loss here so 14 and 7 now fuck august 5th 2016 and uh coral gables florida again this is a titan fc40 and he fights a jorge calvo martin who's 8-0 coming in. And this goes all three rounds.

Unanimous decision. Win for Alexis. So he ruins that guy's perfect record. That is going to be his last fight, though, because I think he's 45, so it's getting a little silly now. You're telling me an investigation didn't stop it? Well, no, because he is not arrested until June 17th, 2018. Wow.

That long. Years. Years. Five years. Six years. Seven years. Seven years, that is. Oh, my God.

Almost to the week. So he's finally arrested. When he is confronted by Detective Christopher Villano, this is amazing, to say I want to talk to you and told him what it was about. This is what the detective said, quote, he threatened to kick my ass.

No, no, you don't understand. You're caught. That is amazing. Holy shit. His defense lawyer here, when he's arrested trying to get bail for him, said, He's a father of four. He's been in this country since 1997. On two separate occasions, he's met with detectives and the prosecutor. At the last meeting, the prosecutor told him,

I have enough to charge you with murder. He still didn't leave the country. He's anxious to defend himself. Can't wait. I have enough to charge you with murder he still didn't leave the country he's anxious to defend himself can't wait i have enough to charge you i'm not going anywhere and he didn't leave um they said you know his defense is he was in las vegas at the time of the killing preparing for a match this is ridiculous um but court records show obviously that a surgeon calls with marin leading up to the killing and 26 phone calls between him and the other three men the day of the murder. He's coordinating it all.

Yeah, he's coordinating it all from Vegas. Yeah, that's all. On two occasion, homicide detectives confronted him about the calls. And the one detective who was threatened to have his ass kicked said he didn't specifically explain them and um they said the substance of those phone calls you don't know what they were about and he said he doesn't that's in court so they could so their his defense was those phone calls could have been anything yeah in the middle of a murder they oftentimes call and say hey what's that recipe well for your rigatoni i forgot how much garlic do you think the previous week they they all watched the naked gun together and they've

just been calling back and forth with like lines from it and you know it's been a real like a they're like how did we not see this movie for 30 fucking years man 30 years i never saw this movie it's been great forever i don't know why i gave him shawarma man's accent but there you go so colin's saying shit like don't call me shirley's like that wasn't even in the movie it wasn't even in the movie so jenny marin said her husband was constantly on the phone during a yacht trip they took in May 2011, right before the murder in the Bahamas. And when they returned to their waterfront home on June 1st, 2011, Marin ran out with one of his employees, Antonio Hernandez. That's the unnamed, unidentified man. So, yeah, Alexis is arrested, charged with second-degree murder involving a conspiracy and weapon.

Wow. He is in deep shit there. And his lawyer very easily simply said, quote, my client was in Las Vegas and really had nothing to do with it. They're calling you in the midst of this. I don't know what to tell you here. He's being held without bail for this as well. Are they going to try to claim butt dialing or something? They're going to say they're just chatting, man.

Friends talk to each other. Wow. So it's wild. So he's not going to be able to get out of jail here. They said that he certainly has the ability to leave the country. August 28, 2018, Marin finally turns himself in. Really? Because he's been on the lam for years. They've been looking to talk to him, and he's finally turns himself in. Really?

He's been on the lam for years. They've been looking to talk to him, and he's been on the lam. In France. Yeah, he's wanted there. He turned himself in to Spanish authorities outside the U.S. Embassy in Madrid, Spain. Wow. On that day, he was about. Yeah, that's what he's been doing. He was about to enter the agency center when police officers assigned there were suspicious of his activities.

And he tried to avoid them before they were able to grab him and run a background check and then said, oh, Jesus Christ, look at this. So they said that he had actually exhausted his visitor's permit in Spain. That's why they were holding him. And then the officers noticed that the fbi was seeking his arrest for murder so they were like hey look at this hey bad guy yeah so they detained him on the spot so november 6th 2019 shit's going on in court um so they said it was orchestrated by manuel marin who you know believed the affair was going on like we said uh marin had known vela because he originally gave him a job stocking shelves when he first came to the country here and also

vela had trained his son in wrestling as well trained marin's son in wrestling um also vela invested in the wrestling studio for vela so or Marin invested in the Vila studio. So they all said he was like a father figure to Vila. So he did all of this. He got him here on a ship. So when Marin asks him for a favor. You better fucking do it. You're going to have to do it.

Yeah, that's how it works. So he, that's what he does. And yeah, he fled to Spain and to France and then Spain. And he is extradited to Florida, obviously. And when they look into the whole thing, they say that they find out that Jenny was apparently an old girlfriend of Camilo's from way back of Salazar's. And they had been reconnecting here. And so that was the whole thing here. Now, Alexis is pretty fucked, obviously.

He's in deep shit. He's in deep shit. He could have killed many people driving through an airport. Sure. He plotted to have a man tortured and killed here. He is really dangerous to a lot of people, anyone around him. And he's got four kids? Jesus, thanks a lot. I feel bad for those kids, got four kids jesus thanks a lot i feel bad for those kids you know what i mean sure feel bad for all these people jimmy is not not nearly as bad

as i feel for alexis vila commercial director at g-o-a-t-c-h it's in capital letters uh here he used to work for adidas this is is in the greater Barcelona metropolitan area in Spain. Alexis Vila. I don't know what this is because it's in Spanish, but he's in the Toulouse metropolitan area. Terrific. So there you go. Alexis Vila, Executivo de Ventas and Business BCN.

So there's that. It's a busy version. And Alexis Vila, student at ESADE Business School in Barcelona. So there's all sorts of Alexis Vilas running around. Also, Alexis Perdomo, if you prefer his full name, he has a bachelor's degree focused on international business and finance, communication and global studies from Drury University. And he is in the Springfield-Branson, Missouri area at this point. And Alexis Vila, a lady who is the senior director of UHN Connected Care and Ultim Health in Toronto, Ontario. She's a very nice-looking lady terrible murderer yeah with a wild disguise he went from a tiny dark cuban man to a very white

blonde woman impressive canadian woman is just an impressive uh makeup job you're not just say you could go from anything to anything. That's that big of a switch. Wow. Incredible makeup work. So in court here, the Panther is the star witness. He saw it all. He was there for it all and didn't participate in any of it.

So it's pretty interesting. He's also going to get a reduced sentence, but he's going to have to do some jail as well here. Sing for us. His MMA record, by the way, was eight and nine, the Panther. So, yeah, 15 and seven for Alexis. So, yeah, not bad. He, after this whole murder, took his wife and moved to Vancouver. And then a year before this, Vila messaged him on Facebook to tell him that the police had issued him a subpoena. Hey, guess what?

Let's talk about this on an easily accessible social media direct messaging thing here. So they end up finding him and the Panther comes back. He voluntarily returned to Miami after years on the run in Vancouver, pleaded guilty and agreed to spend 36 months in prison in exchange for his testimony. He was a part of a murder. So, I mean, they could have charged him with murder. Three years. I mean, that's, I don't know if that's parole, half of that he's going to do. I don't know.

Or even, you know, 28 months. Who knows? Three years is even light. That's light. He participated in a fucking murder. He kidnapped, helped kidnap a man for fuck's sake. He saw what dick and balls look like when they get lit on fire well no he left before that he took off before that that was that was actually um you know corroborated by the phone records

that he didn't see that there during the kidnapping kidnapping and some torture probably yeah he knew what was going on yeah he knew what was going on so Yeah, he knew what was going on. So, yeah, he testifies that he was duped into serving as the muscle for this, and he didn't want to. He said, I didn't do anything to stop the kidnapping, he said in court. That's one of the things he said. So he was trying to do that. He's lost his job as a welder, and he said he's been having a hard time living as a fugitive. having a hard time living as a fugitive after news broke that he'd been implicated and had a subpoena he lost his job as a welder and almost committed suicide by throwing himself in front of a train he testified cancel culture again oh yeah all i did was one little murder seven years ago

comes back to bite me and guess what see what happens my whole life's ruined this is bullshit oh what's just one murder you participate in one horrible kidnap torture murder and it's like you know they're never gonna stop with you about that unbelievable so they said why'd you decide to tell the truth and he said i wanted to feel right i was carrying all the weight of what happened and they offered me a pretty good deal so right i've only got to serve three years that's it so he testified against perdomo he are you know vila roberto isaac maron all of them uh does all the trials here and uh they said he looked he was uh quote balding and haggard sporting a

thin beard glasses and a red jumpsuit reserved for high profile inmates he spoke softly and with a slight stutter that's the panthers description by the newspaper sounds like me sporting it well not a thin beard no it's pretty thick yeah you got a thin now yeah i'll give you glasses and i't know, slap a red jumpsuit on you. Balding. Balding, I guess. But you're not haggard. So, no, you're fine.

So they said, they asked him, the defense lawyers said, they cast him as a liar. They said, you're just trying to get a deal. That's your only thing here. You know, blah, blah, blah. He, by the way, when he first came over here, the Panther, he had fled Cuba in 94 on a raft, spending six days at sea before the Coast Guard picked him up. My God. Yeah, that was how he got there. His wife and son drowned months later while trying to follow him in the same journey. Oh, my God.

So he had remarried and he was depressed after that he got he got into fighting and trained in judo and wrestling and that's how he started with vila and that's how he started getting his life back here um he said he won for his first they said he won his first four bouts and he said now i can go for my dream this is why i'm here and then he didn't do very well after that so eight nine record and then he's in a murder plot getting fired as a fucking as a wrestler now he said that he was training with the young tigers and kendall vila walked in with isaac and introduced him to a longtime friend who was a gang member that's the unknown guy quote unquote hernandez. The Panther will say he was a Latin king.

And they said that they began discussing everything. And the Panther said, I don't know. I thought it was a normal job, like a supermarket job. He thought there was like a job, like a literal job. He was like, I'll take a job, sure. I'll double bag everything. And they were like, this is really easy. Got any zip ties?

Like, well, okay. That's weird. So,'re like, this is really easy. Got any zip ties? I'm like, well, okay. That's weird. So, yeah, he explained the whole plot. He says that they drove to the office of the wife and, you know, they saw him walk into his car. And he said when he saw, the panther said when he saw Isaac put the zip ties on him, panther said, I stood there frozen. I didn't know what to do. So then they handed the panther the car keys and asked him to throw them in the man's car that's when he touched the passenger

side of the car that's how they connected everything that was the way they connected it all it was boom boom through panther's thumbprint there um so then they did all the things we told you about here he said he kept trying to, you know, kept trying to get a hold of Vila and all that sort of thing. When they asked him to beat up Salazar, he said, quote, I said, I'm not going to do that. He hasn't done anything to me. So that's when he took off.

And yeah, they just figured they'd leave him alone. And because they're not like, they're not like mob guys who would have said, we got to kill this guy. Yeah, that's the thing. They're just mad this guy fucked his wife. So he said, I started, this is Panther, I started the car quickly, and I leave with the car.

Later on, he said that when he called Vila angry, Vila said, quote, this is what Panther said, quote, he told me he was sorry for what happened. He also told me if i didn't touch camilo nothing was going to happen he told me just to keep my mouth shut yeah so they said that um later that night they showed up at panther's apartment to pick up the rental and isaac told panther that if he hadn't driven away marin was going to pay you twenty thousand dollars and that's when he says he smelled the gasoline and all that and he would learn you know what happened to him and so he and his wife and his three kids fled to vancouver sought asylum there

he said he was afraid of not only the authorities but the latin kings as well his wife opened a hair salon he was training mma students and working as a welder and then he said i lost my job i lost it all my life was going downhill. I wanted to throw myself in front of a train. So he agreed to cooperate instead. So that's good. He laid out this whole story to the cops. His wife and children remain in Canada,

and he won't be allowed to return there until after he finishes his sentence, obviously. And he says he doesn't know when he's going to see his wife and kids again. Either way uh vila is convicted of facilitating the whole thing like we said evidence showed that he maintained phone contact and contact and did all that kind of shit so he is sentenced to yeah you sir may fuck off 15 years in prison. Wow. 15 years of prison. Surprisingly light.

Yeah. Because he, he was in the conspiracy of the whole thing, not the actual participant of the, you know, physical torture. Now, Roberto Isaac and Marin are charged with second degree murder with a deadly

weapon, conspiracy and kidnapping. There's a lot. Uh, Isaac is found guilty of the actual kidnapping and murder he's sentenced to life in prison yeah for him um 36 months like we said for the panther and uh manuel marine here uh he is uh charged with second degree murder with a deadly weapon conspiracy and kidnapping and sentenced to usurp.

Hey, fuck off. Life in prison for that as well. There's no way he's getting off. That's it. So that is where our guy remains. Of course. Can't get enough. I don't know.

You can watch his fights on YouTube because he's not making much more news anytime soon. I don't think he's going to make another fight. No, unless he escapes the fucking prison like he got out of Cuba. That's the only thing I can see. He might not be fighting anymore. He might be finally done when he's in his 60s he'll try probably but doesn't mean he can do it holy shit man so that's a wild ass story that's crazy all of it's crazy he came over here happened it's this sounds like i made the whole thing up and i didn't i'm not gonna say and i did and it's a joke it's not a joke that's all true that's crazy from everything he came over here in the cargo and he was yeah he's a goal he's a you know a medalist in the olympics he's not fighting till he's in his

late 30s it's the whole none of it should have happened it's crazy and then and then fucking orchestrates a murder unbelievable because one guy is jealous that somebody's banging his wife. It's fucking insane, but what are you going to do? There you go. There's Alexis the Exorcist Vila, everybody. Wow, not letting us down this week, MMA. I'll tell you something.

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