Crime in Sports - #349 - Keep Your Pants On - Dino Ciccarelli

Episode Date: April 4, 2023

This week, we skate back into the brain damage sports, with a Hall of Fame hockey player, who has definitely been done some terrible things, and has been accused of worse. The main problem appeared to be a desire, on his part, to not have his pants on, during times when his pants should most certainly be on. This leads to some angry neighbors, police surveillance, and an accusation of one of the worst things you could think of... in a limo... with 3 other players, and a 17 year old girl. Quite the wild life, and lack of personal responsibility!!Snap your leg in half, before you even get to the NHL, wear very strange outfits that absolutely don't cover what needs to covered, and have no accountability whatsoever with Dino Ciccarelli!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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My name is James Petrogallo. I'm here with my co-host. Hey, I'm Jimmy Wisman. Welcome to Crime and Sports. And if you're noticing that we both sound like we're a little scratchy today, we just did four shows over the weekend. And wow, it's been four live shows. Four live shows and two airplanes with so much dry air yeah oh my god we've had a lot going on over the weekend so but we have a wild episode for you it's a hockey episode hey so none of us neither of us are huge hockey people but we

try our best and uh the hockey episodes are always amazing because not only are they brain damage sports but i'm gonna go out on a limb here outside of obvious one like boxing where the goal is to punch somebody in the fucking head in the non you know combat sports it's the brain damage east of them all because every every part of the rink and the surface and your opponents is all concussion laden. It's fighting is sanctioned. People are punching each other with fists. They elbow each other as they go by.

They hit each other with sticks. You hit the glass. You hit the boards. The ice is fucking solid as shit. You hit that. These are all concussions waiting to happen. You can get hit in the head with a puck. Yeah.

And they wear the least fucking, I mean, apart from their body having all that shit on it, the main component and operation center of your body has the least padding on it. Well, you didn't have to wear a helmet until like 30 years ago. And even the helmet they have now has a plexiglass eye visor. That's it. And it's not coming down too far. You could still catch a puck behind the ear or something. In the brain base.

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here. Here's some weird goblin tales. So that's patreon.com slash crime and sports and you'll get a shout out at the end of the show jimmy will screw up your name terribly even though he'd love to get it correct and uh here is a name today our subject of the week here is a name that if he donated to our patreon jimmy's fucking head would explode there's a z and it isn't no no but it's italian and jimmy has a really hard time with italian names especially ones with c's in it he's like i don't know if

that's a k a ch or a s i don't know what that is it really freaks him out you guys went and made it so much harder we really we really do make it complicated but most of the names are phonetic it's it's only when you get to if you look at at my name, it's just phonetic, but the C's are where it gets weird. So today we have Dino Cicerelli. You know Dino Cicerelli? He played forever. He played forever and was kind of a big star.

Dino, obviously first name, C-I-C-C-A-R-E-L-L-I. You would not pronounce that. That would take you, you'd give that about seven shots. Ciccarelli. One of them would be right. Ciccarelli. Ciccarelli. Ciccarelli.

Ciccarelli. I know a Ciccia first. Yeah, it would be hilarious to listen to that. And I don't blame you. They're difficult. And so, yeah, he's a hockey player, like we said. Born February 8th, 1960 in Sarnia, Ontario, Canada. Yeah, I know where that is.

He's a Canadian-Italian guy. Canadian Narnia. Canadian Gin here we have. And, oh, I love when we have an Italian athlete because we don't get them that often. No? No. And that's not on purpose. I look for them.

Trust me. I want to make fun of myself a lot but the problem is a there's not a ton of italian athletes nowadays they're just there just isn't there's not a lot that really make the cut there you'll get like a a catcher once in a while in the majors you know you'll get uh you know uh people like that not really anybody in the nba unless they're from italy um right no american italian italian americans in football, you'll get, you know, people like that. Not really anybody in the NBA unless they're from Italy. Right. No American, Italian, Italian-Americans.

In football, maybe you'll get a defensive lineman, big fat Tony Saragusa once in a while, somebody like that. And Tony Parker was Italian, wasn't he? Who? But it was because he was like a military kid. French. French, that's what it is. French, yeah.

And isn't he a military kid? I think so, yeah. Isn't that what that is? Yeah, yeah, and he was born in France. And then you've got guys that look Italian, like Manu Ginobili, and he's not. Yeah, exactly. Now, back in the day, that's why we've done some old boxers, because back in the day, boxing was basically all the slots now filled by anybody of a Hispanic background or Latin

background, those were Italians back in the day. You know what I mean? But they don't really do that anymore. And those guys didn't really get in that much trouble unless they killed somebody because they were fucking controlled by the mob.

So they had a lot of protection from getting busted for shit. But you don't really get many modern day Italian athletes that commit a lot of crimes for some reason. So today is a special treat for us where we get Dino cicerelli

the hockey player his mother celeste oh yes his father vittorio benito there's an italian name yeah celeste sounds like a waitress celeste celeste is an italian name it's very is it really celeste mama celeste the pizzas is frozen pizza, yeah. I see a bright blonde... You tell me what's white trash, I'll tell you what's Italian, okay? A bright blonde woman with a cigarette hanging out of her mouth going, what are you gonna have? That's a Celeste to me. I've seen it. I've seen it on a

pizza box. Yeah, I've seen that too. It's an older, heavyset woman in a house coat, Jimmy. That's what it is. And apparently a platinum blonde truck stop waitress at the same time. But they got that from us, I believe, Jimmy. That's what it is. And apparently a platinum blonde truck stop waitress. That's what I'm saying. At the same time. But they got that from us, I believe, probably.

I assure you they did. Yes, I'm going to say. I didn't know. They saw the pizza box and went, you know, that's a pretty good name. That's a lovely name. Just always reminds me of Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead. What was that? Mama Celeste face up, I get a job. Mama Celeste face down, you're selling oranges on the freeway.

She did. It was. It was Mama Celeste face up. I forgot she flipped the pizza. Flipped to Mama Celeste. So, and Vittorio Benito, of course, the father. He goes by Vic because Vittorio's a mouthful in Canada. It's the pain in the dick, yeah.

Yeah, what's that now? So, he has a younger brother as well well I saw it looks like he's born in 1967 so there's that it's about it's hard to find a lot on his family this guy's very private which is weird like doesn't really talk about his wife and kids later he's got a lot of weird privacy issues here his father though this is fucking uh this is fun here vittoria vittoria cicerelli of 110 ontario street pleaded not guilty pleaded not guilty to assaulting constable 10 uh ken fregan during an issuance of a parking ticket near kintail street he beat up a meter maid he apparently did yeah he's a he was charged with assaulting a police officer when he was 25 years old here which is hilarious and he's found

not guilty a week later during his trial fantastic the guy deserved it he pleaded not guilty that's what i mean he apparently there was definitely a quarrel, but apparently, Dad was in the right for beating this guy up. What are you talking about? You're not giving me no ticket. Oh, and he came over, and I can see it. I wonder if the cop instigated it, if he hit him first or something. I mean, I don't know, but he seemed indignant about it, though. He's like, not the guilty.

Then he fought back and won. Then he fought back and won he fought back and won i'm not sure uh it was surprising honestly this was 1961 this happened so when dino was a year old his dad's beating up cops which is pretty fucking hilarious i gotta say i was surprised that he got away with it honestly back then i don't know maybe it's easier to do in Canada. But either way, the thing that's even more surprising about that that I could find is this, from this time, if you happen to be in Montreal during this time and you need a wig, the wigs are on sale, Jimmy. They're on sale. Wigs, wigs, wigs, it says. Yeah.

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And human hair wiglets. Is that a merkin? What's a wiglet? Is that a pussy? Is that a pussy cover? It's got to be. Right? While they last.

We're not going to sell out of fucking merkins over here. Everybody get down there. Hey, get down there. The merkins are on sale. Come on. They're not going to last. Well, they're going to sell out of fucking Merkins over here. Everybody get down there. Hey, get down there. The Merkins are on sale. Come on. They're not going to last. Wigs, wigs, wigs. We're treating it like a strip club.

They're human hairs. For real. Get down here. Wigs, wigs, wigs. Come on down. Milan Wigs Limited, this is. So you can enjoy that. So a little bit on Dino's early life here.

He said, quote, this is, oh yeah growing up in sarnia uh even though we could pick up the red wings on television and the radio i was a maple leafs fan and if i did have to pick one favorite player it would be dave keon i don't know who that is that's a maple leaf player from like 1966 probably and i big deal yeah yeah my my knowledge of hockey is fleeting at best i'm not gonna lie here um and my knowledge of hockey is definitely 100 rooted in about 19 1988 through maybe 2002 with a heavy emphasis on like the 93 to 95, like when the Rangers won the cup and like, you know, yeah, I had friends who played hockey, so I'd have to sit and watch it. So I knew people and I played the NHL hockey on Sega. So I knew guys names outside of that. I'm really pretty.

Post the great one. Not really that good with it here. So he says, quote, I like the style because he was tenacious and a go-to guy i like the other guys too like paul henderson ron ellis norm allman that group more people i've never heard of uh i remember my dad taking me to my first nhl game when i was around 12 and it was about at olympia stadium with the wings playing the leafs i remember it like it was yesterday by the way i like how they're the leafs and not the leaves right isn't that weird i've always thought that how are they not the toronto maple leaves right right they're fucking what's happening how does that work why is that

the only part of the uh language that we we're all okay with well what is up with that nobody's ever nobody's ever made us think about it. I've never heard that. I want to go up to all their merch and cross out the fucking F and put a... I guess it's because each person is a maple leaf. So you have to say... Each leaf is a leaf.

They're leaves. I don't know. I don't know why this matters. I don't know either, but it's bothering me now. It matters, though. It certainly does. Why does this bother us? I don't know, but it does. The maple matters though it certainly does why does this bother us i don't know but it does the maple leaves yeah it's so fucking strange the one time we all get

to break grammar rules yeah i'm sure someone in canada in canada or no there's no logical reason no no i mean i'm sure someone's brought it up before i'm sure some i'm sure i'm not the first person to notice what terrible english that is but still i don't know then again too in canada they will throw an e on the end of an r so like center is century there so we have to look at it that way doing it if we're doing it like that because each person is a leaf and even still a bunch of leaves is a leaves uh it's a leaves a bunch of leaves is a leaves. It's a leaves. We don't call them the Utah Jazzes.

That's true. Well, the whole team is supposed to be like the- They're all the jazz. They're supposed to be like music that's happening. Jazz. See what I'm saying? So what is one of them? That would be- A note?

It can't be. Yeah, a note, a jazz, an instrument. You're an oboe. Hey. Yeah. I was talking to you. Power forward. 14.

Oboe. That's you. Huh? What the fuck are you talking about? What a bunch of leafs is a leaf. I don't understand it. So anyway, he said, I remember it like it was was yesterday the game that he went to we got there before warm-up and my dad wanted me to go with him to get something to eat but i stayed because

i wanted to watch the warm-up like any kid i dreamed about playing in the nhl like any kid yeah you dream of playing in the nhl jimmy all the time if you're canadian that is holy fuck a culture man gee Every kid wants it. We've talked about it. Do you love that part of baseball and sports, too? I'm still in my 40s. Being at the game, if I'm going to a game, I want to be there so early. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm going early.

I'm going early. Yeah, definitely. I like to go early. I like to see the batting practice. I like to see warm-ups. I like to see how the whole thing comes together. Yeah. I enjoy it.

In basketball, each person comes out and warms up alone it's so much fun to watch it's it's interesting too well they take turns too i like that they have little rituals too i like to see what people's little rituals are yeah baseball yeah i don't know baseball i'm i'm done with it i'm done with it i'm done with it they've changed it too much i can't deal with it anymore and i know yeah they took people who hate baseball and said what would you like us to do to baseball like they took literally a 12 year old they were like hey hey and he's like on instagram and they're like yo and he's hey and they like slap the phone out of his hand for four seconds and they go hey

what would make you like baseball he's like i don't fucking know and he shrugs and picks his phone back up and they're like no no for real just tell us he's like i don't like make it super fast just like they catch and pitch and throw and then home runs and i don't know like maybe do that make the games like an hour long you know just do that fit in an instagram story and okay yeah that's fun make it fit in the tiktok hey you know how all those you know how baseball as far as sports movies go, it's kind of undisputed that baseball relates the best to film? You know why that is? Because there's fucking pauses built into the game.

That's why. That drama in the ninth inning of the hitter looking at the pitcher and the pitcher staring in for the sign and the bases are loaded. We want that to go as long as possible. That's the fucking buildup. That's suspense, God damn it. This is a quickie now. Every time is a fucking quickie.

That's not right. You can have quickies sometimes, and they're fun, but if you have a quickie every time, you're never coming good. You know what I'm saying? Baseball is a big blue ball now. Thank you. It's all it is. It's fucking bullshit now.

I'm sorry. That Colin strikes if they take eight seconds is, I hate that rule. It's fucking insane. It's insane. Eight seconds out of the box and it's a strike. What? You cannot have it be possible to have a fucking game end

because somebody took too long to concentrate before they fucking did something that takes a lot of fucking concentration to do it's ridiculous it's fucking stupid gloves to do the hardest act in all of sports which is put a baseball on a bat it's it's so hard it's so hard one time out and it's i know i i get it people are gonna say oh you sound like fucking old men yelling right this was no this was three years ago it's not old men i'm not saying oh back in the 40s it was better in fucking 2016 it was fucking way better that's what i'm telling you i'm telling you that this this fucking their commissioner right now i hated bud ceiling i

thought he was the worst commissioner i would fucking dig him out of his grave right now and fucking stand him up like a goddamn puppet and make him be the commissioner because he'd be a better commissioner than this fucking asshole. I swear to God. It's really awful. I just want like an old man. I want Ted Williams. I want to figure out what was wrong with Ted Williams so we can unfreeze him, have him come and beat this man to death with a fucking baseball bat and tell him what a fucking moron he is tuna can't off that man oh i swear to god sent in this game again it's defrost the fucking splendid splinter and get him out there fucking taking care of business because i've had it at this point i'm done and i i am you know me i'm a deep baseball fan like fucking i'm

like uh ingrained in it i love it and i am i'm fucking done with it i will never i'm not watching it anymore i'm done i'll go to a minor league game but other than that and really fuck the majors each sport is is evolving maybe that's what it is they're trying to evolve it too fast yes because they want fucking everybody they want it to fit into social media they want it to fit into that they need how do we get kids to watch it i don't care i don't fucking care if they watch it make their have their dad take them like ours did not only that also fucking i don't know maybe have them play it that also helps if they play it they tend to like it. So, you know, even video.

I'm sorry. Fuck it. Video games are good for sports because they make people want to see the sport. It's good. But this is bad. So, all right. I'm done with fucking baseball because this has nothing to do with baseball. He dreamed of playing in the NHL is what I'm getting at.

In peewee, I wasn't good enough for the major peewee team. But then my dad got a call from the coach at a tournament in Niagara Falls because a couple of kids got hurt. So I filled in and ended up staying. So that's how he got into his first kind of good peewee team, I guess. The next year I played Bantam at 14 and played in a major international tournament in British Columbia and competed against Yari Curry, Matt's Newsland. Oh, boy, here come the hard names, and Larry Murphy. Thank you, Larry.

Thank you so much, Larry. I just had a big, huge, deep breath after Larry. Thank you so much. Larry Murphy, only one way to say that. You Irish bastard, I appreciate it. Thank you. Holy fuck. At 15, I was playing junior B in Sarnia

against guys up to 21 years old. And it was a great stepping stone for me because I played four years in juniors in London. So he plays for the Sarnia Bs in 75, 76, 40 games played, and he has 45 goals and 43 assists. He's very good. He's fucking 15. That's incredible. Against 21-year-olds. Against adults.

Up to 21, which there's a huge physical difference between even a 15 and an 18-year-old. Never mind a 15 and a 21-year-old. That guy's got booze on his breath. He's got Molson on his breath. That's a different guy. And I think in Quebec it's 18, so there's 18-year-olds that got booze on their breath. Stubble and Molson. Just fucking not good. I was thinking Quebec, it's 18, so there's 18-year-olds that got booze on their breath. Oh, Stubble and Molson. Yeah.

Just fucking not good. So he plays there and in the Southwestern Ontario Minor Hockey League is what it is. Wow. Of the Ontario Minor Hockey Association. Would you look at that? So many words to qualify it. So much, man. There's so many leagues up there back in the day.

Remember how we went over it with that Steve Durbano, I think, the one time, all these different leagues. He was one of two. Another guy on the team, Phil Esposito, was on his team. I know him, too, so that's how famous he is as a hockey player. They're both, Cicerelli and Esposito, are both in the Hall of Fame. Is that right? Both in the Hockey Hall of Fame. They were both in that.

Yeah, they were both from this team. Not at the same time. Esposito was before him, but still. London Knights after that he plays for. This is a different league. The OMJHL. Oh. I assume that's Ontario and Junior Hockey League is in there.

I don't know. Oh, my Jesus, Hockey League. Oh, my Jesus, Hockey League. league oh my jesus what a shot so he's a 16 year old at this point plays in 66 games 39 goals and 43 assists so shit that's not bad for a kid i mean he's yeah you bring him to the next level he does just as well uh in the playoffs, he had 11 goals in 20 games, which is pretty good that year, too. So, damn, he's a fucking beast, this guy. The next year, he plays in 68 games, has 72 goals and 70 assists. Wow, that's good. Holy shit.

You've got to have so much talent to do this, athletic-wise. Yeah, ice skating's hard. Right, that part is the start of it. Holy shit. You've got to have so much talent to do this, athletic-wise. Yeah. Ice skating's hard. Right. That part is the start of it. If you can't do that, it's over. No. You have to be able to not even think about ice skating. Right.

You've got to be able to do that as easy as you walk and run on a basketball court. Yeah. Because you've got to make decisions. And then hockey's hard, too. Right. The actual gameplay is difficult, also. I play street hockey a lot as a kid you run around and do that not you know a lot but doing that it's fun but it's not that easy stick work is impossible stick work is hard it's it's difficult all that while

trying not to fall down it's difficult and then have hand-eye coordination to be able to put a puck where a man doesn't want you to put it. Yeah, the whole thing is like a magic trick, I will say. I respect hockey a lot, the guys who can do it. It's very impressive. After the season, Dino was awarded the Jim Mahone Memorial Trophy. I'll bet he was good. Yeah, which is given to the highest scoring right winger in the OMJHL.

So there's that. He's the highest scoring right winger in the OMJHL. So there's that. He's the highest scoring right winger. So he's the front three, one of those guys? Yeah, yeah. Or four? I don't know how many are on the fucking field. It's just like basketball except with a goalie. Is it only five?

It's five and a goalie. Is that right? Yeah. Okay, all right. Yeah, five and a goalie. It's basketball. Yeah, the strategy is that right? Yeah. Okay. All right. Yeah, five and a goalie. It's basketball. Yeah, the strategy is kind of the same in basketball when you attack them. It's a centered thing.

The plays are similar, honestly. You can do kind of similar deals like it, except one's a lot harder. So he plays 78-79 for London again. In 30 games, he has eight goals and 11 assists um here that's because he's injured this year um this injury almost ended his whole thing before it got started actually here uh yeah a steel rod had to be inserted into the bone to help healing that's how bad it was uh severe fracture of the femur in his right leg pin Pinning his leg. Oh, my God. He thought he was fucked. Yeah. He said, I caught a rut, went into the back boards, and it snapped.

Oh, no. Went into the boards, and it snapped. Oh, God. That's so rough. Jesus Christ. His foot got stuck in a groove in the ice. Yep. Shitty ice. Jesus, fuck.

They don't take the Zamboni out all the time. Yeah, Zamboni doesn't come in between periods. No. That Hava Nagila, which is a sweet, soothing tune to a hockey player who's broken his leg from a rut. We'll do it at the end of the game. Yeah, he converted to Judaism directly after this. I'm sure, yeah. He said, you know what?

That's a sweet sound. I'm doing it. So he said, you could hear it all over the arena. It was awful. Oh, Jesus Christ, man. I got back playing a year after that, but the leg didn't feel the same. It was awful. Jesus Christ, man. I got back playing a year after that, but the leg didn't feel the same. Mentally, I was down for months, I remember.

Those guys, my dad and the trainer, a lot of people, helped me hold on to that dream. Jesus Christ. He said, I had just beaten out Wayne Gretzky in the OHL with 72 goals, and then I badly broke a leg. The doctors were setting me up to say that I might not be able to play again and it was very discouraging how about that he may have been better than gretzky i mean he had a chance to be yes definitely you can't you're never going to be the same person after you snap your fucking femur in half i mean that's not athletically for sure no you can't be weak forever you can't be it sure. No, you can't be weak forever. You can't be. It just, even your mind, you can't be, it'd be impossible. He said, uh, I was away from home,

going to school, couldn't play and was going to rehab all the time. But my parents, my host parents and trainer kept on encouraging me. The big hurdle for me was my first game back a year later playing in Windsor, our huge rival with around 5 000 in the stands jesus this is for a minor league hockey game junior hockey that is wild 5 000 5 000 there are amazing holy shit that's incredible honestly that's wild i'd lose my mind if 5 000 people came to see us somewhere five yeah five our venue in Chicago holds 2,800 this year. And we're like, if people show up for that, wow, our heads

are going to fucking explode. By the way, come on down to Chicago there. It's April 12th, or not April, August 12th I think. Fill up that joint. But 5,000, holy shit. If you're from Sarnia, you know what? Message us. We'll figure something out. We'll get you in there for a discount. If you're from Sarnia and you know what? Message us. We'll figure something out. We'll get you in there for a discount.

If you're from Sarnia and have played Junior League hockey and you have proof of that, we're going to figure out a way to get you in at a discount. How's that? That's the crime and sports small-town murder guarantee. It's our creed. It goes for any of our shows, actually. You bring us proof of that ahead of time your junior hockey league membership card from half price on us on us half price half price half price

well half of it's on us yeah that's the joke part if i said complimentary that's just nice half price is funny we're really impressed half price how's that that's so uh he's doing all this shit uh he said on my third shift someone nailed me and i got right back up again and i can still remember that hit it gave me confidence that I wasn't going to injure it again yeah I guess you'd have to you know fall off a horse and hurt yourself and then fall off and not hurt yourself to go power game three times and then somebody hit him and somebody yeah yeah took a shot at him he said I went two drafts without being picked up probably because of concerns with my leg and my size he's only 5'10 too he's not a huge guy yeah he's not a big guy at all which i mean back then that's not a lot of guys were 6'3 6'4 like they are now in the league but he said it was like no one wants to buy a

horse with a broken leg but lou nan and the north stars signed me and i made the best of it so um he ends up he's not selected in the draft in the NHL, like we said, but the Minnesota North Stars pick him up. Hell yeah. Back in the day there. That is September 28th, 1979. And they keep him with the Knights for 79-80, you know, like a minor league deal. And he scored 50 goals that year. So 50 goals and 53 assists in 62 games, which is pretty good. Taylor Swift is soaring

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and assists, so they were like, alright, he might be good here. So they bring him up to their minor league team, the Oklahoma City Stars. Oh, they got him. Really? Wow. 1979-80, Oklahoma City, I can't imagine, was a hotbed for hockey. I just can't imagine.

They got ice in fucking Oklahoma City? Right? It's the one rink. And it's, uh, there's probably not a lot of stands. His days of playing before 5,000 are over when he gets there, I'm gonna say, probably, right? Probably have 500 there.

Yeah. I mean, shit. He had three goals and five points in six games. Yeah, six games. I almost said 66 games. 80-81 season. He spends most of the season with Oklahoma City. Plays in 48 games.

He has 32 goals and 57 points. But he gets called up. I don't know if they have September call-ups in hockey like in baseball. But he gets called up for, I guess, the last 19 games of the season, of the 80-81 season. And he has 14 goals and 7 assists, which is a hell of a way to announce your presence in the league, I think, here. Hi, I'm here. So, yeah, that team, the 80-81 team, was a 35-28-17 team. 17 ties.

Pretty good, right? I think so. Third in the Adams here. That was a division at the time. And they go to the playoffs because in hockey most of the league goes to the playoffs back then. And now, too. I think it's 16 out of, like, 28 teams. I don't know how many hockey teams there are.

Around 30, I assume. They all have around 30 teams, it seems know how many hockey teams there are around 30 i assume they all have around 30 teams it seems like everything hovers there yeah and then they're always expanding and retracting so that's what i mean you lose track of shit i mean the coyotes aren't going to be around much longer i don't think dude i am shocked with how much this city hates them they hate them well the owner just got arrested now for strangulation. Like, what are you kidding me? Felony strangulation. Yeah. We are going to do a bonus episode about the Coyotes.

You've got to. They've been a huge disaster. When they were downtown, remember they'd go to the playoffs and Keith Kachuk was there and they'd have the whiteout. So when they go to the playoffs and everything was fine, everybody would wear the fucking white t-shirts they'd give out and everything. Then they moved out to Peoria or Glendale or whatever the fuck it was. And everyone went, are they still in?

No. They left. Okay. Stopped caring completely. Everyone did. I'm not driving an hour to see that shit. Fuck that. Now they've gone.

They're playing at the ASU stadium because they lost their lease in Glendale. So they're playing in front of 5,000. It holds 5,000. It's sold out every night because it's only fucking 5,000 for an NHL game. And they should be in an 18,000 seat fucking place probably. So they're trying to get a new arena built out there. Get the fuck out. No one's building you shit.

Dude, they are not. People are picketing you shit. Dude. Take a hike. They are not. Go. People are picketing. Bye. Bye. Because they want to get some sort of travel tax and shit like that. Fuck off. Fuck off. Because we did it for the NFL.

We did it for other things. That's because that's. Because it's. Yes. They make money, guys. It does something. And the Super Bowl comes there every like six years and it's a huge deal. Yeah, there's a lot.

NHL gives you nothing. Stanley Cup's not coming here because you suck. You suck and you're going to keep sucking because your owner gets arrested for strangulation rather than trying to sign good players. That's not good. Not even in Arizona. Where was he? In Colorado or something?

Yeah, I don't know where he was. It was somewhere else. Somewhere, but he got arrested like an idiot. So they go to the playoffs here. They sweep the Bruins in the first round, win 4-1 in five games over the Sabres, win in six games over Calgary, and go all the way to the Stanley Cup Finals. Wow. He's a rookie.

He goes to the Stanley Cup Finals, but then he runs into, out of the few things I know about hockey, I know the Islanders won like four straight championships during this time. So you run into them. It was like the Flyers and then them. So the 70s and early 80s were covered by dynasties. Rangers and the fucking Red Wings. You're not going to beat them.

The Islanders were the big team. They were a dynasty in the early 80s. I think they won four and then they lost the fifth, I think, to Gretzky. Are the Rangers not good because of the Islanders? Is that what Gretzky. Are the Rangers not good because of the Islanders? Is that what it is? No, the Rangers are not good because they're the Rangers. It's just they've never been good. When they won a title in 94, it was the first in like 300 years

since ice was frozen indoors, I believe. Since we realized that. Since they used to play it on little surfboards on their feet on water, I believe. On water, they used to play it on little surfboards on their feet on water, I believe. On water. They used to do it like that. And they were like, this would be much faster if we froze this. This game would be awesome once they got the technology.

There's rocks underneath until spring. Yeah, exactly. I think that's how that works. He made $132,000 this year. Not bad. That's great. That's equal to $468,831 U.S. dollars today. Not fucking bad.

He's 20. That's awesome. That's great. He's got no responsibility. He's 81-82 season. He has a great year here as well. 55 goals and 51 assists that year. Plays the whole season.

So, I mean, he's a star now. He's an all-star, as a matter of fact. So, good for him. He's an all-star in the playoffs. He plays well four games. He has three goals and an assist. They lose to the Blackhawks in the first round of the playoffs, though, that year. So, he makes $132,000 again.

So, not bad. 82-83 season season he's again an all-star 37 goals 38 assists does pretty well you know it's that's good i mean shit yeah i'm impressed i couldn't do that in the playoffs nine games he does pretty well there let's see the playoffs they go they play they beat the maple leafs in the first round and then lose to Chicago again in the second round. Yeah. Got to beat the Leafs. His team here makes $132,000. He had a $50,000 incentive bonus in his contract if he got 40 goals or 80 points during the regular season.

So at least 40 goals or a total of 80 with the goals and assists. He ended up with 37 goals and 75 points. But since he missed three games because he was suspended late in the season, the team granted him a three-game grace period in the first round of the playoffs to meet the bonus objective. Yeah, they were like, we'll give you the extra three games. He didn't get it, though. He didn't get all the way there.

Oh, God damn it. That was kind of sad. Yeah, he missed out on it. It was very nice of them to try to help him out. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, that is Minnesota, everybody, right there. That's as Minnesota nice as it gets. Like, oh, you know what?

You did get suspended those three games, and that's not really fair to you. You have to get the whole time to give it a good shot. So, you know what? You did get suspended those three games, and that's not really fair to you. You have to get the whole time to give it a good shot. So you know what? Let's bring it along a bit. Yeah. Let's give it one more go. So that year, he's 38 goals, 33 assists in the 83-84 season. Very good.

71 points again. Fuck, he's killing it. This guy's good as shit. He's the best fucking ice skating guinea I've ever heard of. That's pretty... Right? Jesus Christ. Very rare, yeah. Not a lot of us ice skate. I'll tell you what, I don't know

a lot of ice skating guineas, but... A lot of them have been ice, but that ain't it. I mean, yeah, they might go out on the ice a little bit, but not for these purposes. So, 83-84 playoffs, 16 games, because they go all the way to the conference finals before they're swept by Edmonton,

which is Gretzky and Messier together. What are you going to do? They're the ones who ended up finally beating the Islanders, if I remember correctly, in the finals. I hope I'm getting that right, by the way. If I'm not remembering that, I'm going to feel like a real asshole. 83-84, $132,000 again. They got them locked up

pretty good here. 84-85 in 51 games. He has 15 goals, 17 assists. And the team here, God, the team sucks. They go, check this out. They're 25-43-12. That's their record. That's embarrassing. They go to check this out, they're 25-43-12. That's their record.

That's embarrassing. They go to the playoffs. What? Yes, that's a playoff record. That's what I mean. You can't have that. This year we're only having 12 teams in the playoffs. Sorry.

That's all. They lost or didn't win 55 games. Yeah, this year we're having less teams. Sorry, got to be 500 to be in the playoffs. They're close to it. This isn't even close. Even if you add the ties with the wins, that's still 37 and 43. That's not good.

That is not good at all. So, yeah, and they sweep the Blues in the first round. Imagine going to the playoffs, getting swept by a team who's nowhere near 500. What did the Blues have as a record? I think they were 12 and fucking 68. 70 or whatever how many fucking games there are. They lose to Chicago again in the next round of the playoffs, though. So he makes $132,000 that year again.

They got him locked up. Next year, 75 games, 44 goals and 45 assists. So 89 points, his highest output since 81-82. Doing very well. Yeah, that fucking sounds really good to me. The team, 38-33-9. So actually 500. They go to the playoffs and lose to the Blues.

Man, who was very angry from last year losing to a bad team we should put less effort in the regular season and then just kick everybody's ass that's what we should do that's what they should do well it seems like why wouldn't you do that when you can go fucking well under 500 and not make the playoffs why would you try that hard during the regular season use it as a practice the stanley cup could have 25 fucking wins why bother putting any effort into this shit yeah why that's what i mean it's all that matters is the playoffs and that's kind of what the nba is now that's why they yeah take a lot of time off because everybody makes the playoffs if you're 500 you make the playoffs if you're a decent team you don't want to burn out in the regular season. You want to have it ready for the playoffs. So October of 1985, there is a little bit of a tragedy going on in his family here. They're talking about him and his teammates are holding a vigil at the Hennepin County Medical Center where his nine-month-old daughter is recovering from serious burns.

Oh, my God. Yeah. Jenna Cicerelli, that's his daughter's name, was in satisfactory condition here. This is from the Century Daily Times. This is what it is. I swear to God. And it says that during a family gathering Saturday in Ontario, Jenna pulled a pot of boiling water on herself.

Oh, no. Oh, my God. That's the most horrifying burns to see. Those are so, so bad. Oh, man. As both of us as parents just went away from the mic like, oh, Jesus Christ, because it scares the shit out of you. They scab so bad.

That's fucking hard's it looks so awful the poor thing i can't imagine the pain that that must be that's for an eight month old you can't even nine month old you can't even explain it to them wait wait how did that kid pull i don't know maybe it was close in a high chair possibly or it couldn't have been walking around pulling fucking pulling pots down that kid would be a she a sasquatch no like that's crazy baby from roger rat yeah what is going on here with that's a huge baby yeah she was smoking a game i was gonna say she was going around she was going to the beer to get a fridge and was trying to check on it on the way god that's so scary uh we're going to the fridge to get a beer did i say going to the beer

to get a fridge whatever you know what the fuck I'm talking about. You know where it is. You didn't catch it, so okay. They're together. Yeah, they're together. So they brought in, I guess, an air ambulance, they called it. I guess a medevac type of situation. Brought her to the medical center's burn unit for treatment of second and third degree burns on her chin, neck, chest, and arms.

Oh, poor kid. third degree burns on her chin neck chest and arms oh poor kid um dino said this is the most italian thing anybody i could picture this he said if i could let it be me i would in a second that's such an it's yeah such an italian dad i take places with her in a minute god please switch us places and put burns upon my face burn me god fucking dramatic he said quote she's so small and so helpless just laying there one minute she'll be laughing in the next minute she'll start crying from the pain jesus christ that is fucking horrible uh he and his wife linda wife Linda said they feel helpless to help because they can't sit in a hospital.

Yeah, he says, quote, all you can do is sit there with her and try to keep her laughing, but it's so depressing because she's so miserable. Holy fuck. Linda's having a hard time trying to swallow everything that's happened. I guess it's part of being a parent. These things happen. But this is our first child, and we're like any other parent.

We're scared. Yeah, your first kid. If it was like your fourth, fifth, you're like, eh, I don't know. We'll figure it out. First kid, and in nine months, you've made what feels like the biggest blunder of your life.

Oh, you've fucked up so bad. We broke it already? Jesus Christ, we can't have nice things. Nine months? that's all we shoot you shoot the first bit you're careful yeah right you're barely as old as you carried her for for my sake same amount same amount yeah the first kid's the old joke where you're driving 15 miles an hour home from the hospital and all that shit and yeah that's you don't want pot boiling water make a mistake like that jesus that you feel like is your mistake.

That's a fifth kid fuck up right there. Yeah, yeah. That's a fifth kid fuck up. That is. Because by the fifth kid, you go 15 miles an hour with the first kid. By the fifth kid, you're like, I called you on Uber. You don't even. Yeah, by the fifth kid, this is the mistake that the first kid made.

You blame the first kid for letting this one get hurt. See that scar all over her? You want to look like that? There's a pot up there. Watch out. All right. There you go. Jesus Christ.

So they're scared, obviously. He does say that his daughter is, quote, a tough little girl, and he believes she's handling it well. And the North Stars have told dino to stay with his family as long as he needs to and don't worry about it you're good you know you need to stay there a couple weeks we understand if you miss some games again yeah minnesota put the ointment on her and we'll be here when you come back yeah well jesus you can't leave your wife there with the situation you gotta fucking you to hunker down here. He said, quote, I went straight to the hospital and my wife and I were every day, or were there every day and every night for three weeks.

He said, Jesus, man, that is fucking wild. He said, I was a wreck just sitting there watching her go through so much pain with there being absolutely nothing you could do about it. It just tears your insides away. Yeah. Eventually the hurt was so much, and I couldn't do anything that I decided to come back to the club. But in retrospect, I don't think it was a very good idea. I wasn't very much good for the five or six games, for the first five or six games.

I don't think I scored my first goal until 18 games into the season. Oh, my. A little distracted. Understandable. Understandable. What was mine, yeah. A little distracted. Understandable. Understandable. Mind, yeah. To be somewhere else, you'd be on the phone constantly getting updates, and that would be terrible.

He said, the doctors tell us that by the time they're finished, you'll have to know she was burned, and we'll have to look for the scars to notice them. Fortunately, none of the water went on her face. Yeah. That's a fucking, Jesus Christ, that's lucky. He said, though, quote, I find i appreciate my family all the more now well yeah once your little girl's melted you kind of start you really start to take stock you know what i'm saying that's a very uh obvious statement man i'm sure you do oh jesus man when i go home i'll be much more

aware of her yeah be much more aware of where the pots are boiling and remember last time we weren't aware yeah jesus christ we realized that it could have been a whole lot worse and we have so much to be thankful for no shit she had skin grafts and ended up recovering beautifully. Wow. Yeah, good for her. Man, that's a fucking horrible thing to have happen. Holy shit. So he makes $132,000, though, again, so good for him.

All of that gone to skin grafts. That's going to say skin grafts are, what do they cost? What's a skin graft go for nowadays? $132,000, $133,000. 86, 87, he plays in 80 games, 52 goals, 51 assists. So he's back at that point. He's back and ready to go. Minnesota actually doesn't make the playoffs. Holy shit, they're one of the four teams in the league who didn't make the playoffs.

They were 30, 40, and 10, and it didn't quite cut it. So no good. He makes $132,000. makes 132 grand wow sign long fucking term boy exact same pay no raise uh 87 88 67 games played here 41 goals 45 assists he's fucking nasty man he really is nasty uh that team goes wow what a terrible team 1948 and 13 and they made the playoffs no i'm just kidding they didn't make the playoffs no 19 wins 19 wins they're terrible uh november 25th 1987 during this season so dino has a good season but he's had an interesting little thing that happened here on this day on November 25th, 1987, right around Thanksgiving. This is from Eden Prairie, Minnesota.

He was arrested this week for indecent exposure. What? Unexpected. Why is his dick out? Sir, can we, hey, Dino, dino excuse me you come here for a minute buddy indecent indecent exposure you know what it is when it's a dude it it's gotta be his dick nothing else is indecent you can walk around with your shirt off any all you want it's it's your dick's out the man's dick was out here's the question though was it out at somebody or just in general

because that's a big difference. Yeah. Was there an emergency? Did he have to pee? Is it one of those? Because we saw a dick in Portland the other day. Sure did. 48 hours ago, Jimmy and I were looking at a penis together.

I've never wanted to not see a dick more. We looked and we were like, oh, his dick is out. Let's go inside. Let's let him deal with this alone. his dick is out we should let's go inside let's let him deal with this alone he was peeing like you've you've everybody that's ever been to a really bad bar in a really bad neighborhood has seen the man pee with his forehead on the wall yep and he was a forehead on a brick wall yep it's one of those pisses at his sides i've then seen people fall asleep in that position as well so that's right we've all been there for that one thankfully it

was raining so it washed right into our shoes jesus christ man that is uh so you gotta wonder yeah is it is it an aggressive thing or was this i mean really your dick shouldn't be out in public at all but was it a piss or was it like, hey, look at my cock, lady? You know what I mean? One of those. Those are a huge difference. Entirely different. This apparently was an ongoing situation.

This wasn't a one time always dicks out thing. He was arrested at his home based on observations of a city police officer. Oh, your dicks out in front of a cop. You really got problems. Your dick should always be away and there's a situation where a cop was intimidated enough to wait and follow well it's captain jim clark said this in the release he said quote the officer had been observing him due to complaints of previous indecent exposure so they were the neighbors have been complaining

so they were like we'll keep an eye on him and see if he takes his cock out and he does what that's not okay uh and they said that this uh female exposure the indecent exposure had been witnessed by a female residence of the neighborhood here so his dick's out around ladies who you know you don't take your dick out around ladies that's not cool unless they ask you to and then by all means unfurl but unsheathe yourself at that point but until then let's give it a minute let's keep it in the holster fellas you know what i'm saying he said the case has been forwarded to the city lawyer for issuance of a formal complaint yeah they said well what happened here they asked the north stars huh here's your buddy here what's going on and they said that they quote have no comment at this point regarding dino cicerelli's

legal problems that's it silver what about his cock out do you have any yeah what about his the things about his cock out he's like well his daughter was burned very badly yeah but his dick was out yeah but that was really maybe that's why daughter was burned very badly. Yeah, but his dick was out. Yeah, but that was really, maybe that's why. It was very, very traumatic for him. Maybe she was trying to get away. Yeah, right. He was trying to pull it onto that. He was arrested after he was observed nude outside of his house.

And this was a multiple time thing, like we said. The accounts were conflicting, but according to one of his neighbors, time thing like we said the accounts were conflicting but according to one of his neighbors he was fond of wandering around his yard in just a sweatshirt and socks if that what how are you what is he fucking donald duck no you can't do that you can't walk around with just a shirt and shoes on that's not okay no you can skip the socks and the sweater and just have pants on you can trade in two for one that's ridiculous one part of your body needs to be covered and that's your cock and balls how are you fond of that how do you put that outfit on and then then open the door and be fond of that i i don't understand what how you'd, well, my balls are out and I like to feel the nice outdoor breeze on it.

This feels better. Well, and you're wearing a sweatshirt, so here's my theory, okay? Either it's hot outside and you're doing some sort of self-regulation where you're wearing the sweatshirt, but that's only because you're getting a big cooling mechanism from the bottom part of you, or it's chilly out and you're like, ooh, it's chilly, better put on a sweatshirt, but that's only because you're getting a big cooling mechanism from the bottom part of you. Or it's chilly out and you're like, ooh, it's chilly. Better put on a sweatshirt, but your balls don't get cold. Because he has socks on, too, which tells me it's a little chilly. Yeah, the ground's cold.

It's not like a summertime where he's just going out there in his underwear or in a bathing suit or something. Why would you protect your feet and nipples but not your fucking balls? Not your cock and balls and asshole and paint it's the most the most vulnerable oh any animal could come up and just peck his asshole out you don't know you have no idea what's gonna happen out there the most susceptible to weather and injury you have it all out injury and you're just and legal action as well so things of both nature and madman structure are all in a mess here scared to death now they asked dino about it he finally has a comment and he said listen the reports are greatly exaggerated basically of me always walking around with my cock out outside that's's not right. He said it was a one time thing.

Oh, he just he was just investigating a noise he heard coming from the garage. All right. So he was inside of his house. Yeah. With, by the way, a two year old daughter at this point. I did say that I have a little more heightened awareness around my daughter. Yeah. If I hear a noise, I might just start running. I might just might just start running for some reason his dick is out around the house around a

child number i don't know if the kid's home or not i'm not going to say that but seems like it's a habit for him to not have pants on in his home which you know what there's plenty of nudist people out there i'm not gonna whatever you got whatever you're into i don't give a fuck but once you hear a noise you know what you do next to the garage next to all exits just have a like a pair of pants there just like a you saved a speedo yeah just a speedo something you can throw on real quick even if it's just like a a velcro skirt to wrap around yourself just a like a fireman exactly have your gear maybe have it like that so you can just step right into the pants and go so you you're quick. I don't care.

Have a setup, an apparatus. They're easy. The fireman ones just have suspenders. No zipper, no belt, nothing. Just step right into them, pow. Something. Step outside. Step outside.

But if your balls are out, that's more important than the noise that's outside. Put them away. Also, you're going to go investigate with your balls out why are you doing that that's the other thing is that where you where you want to confront trouble not me best case scenario it's like an animal or something which i don't want my dick out around an animal and no worst case it's somebody who's broken into your house and now you have to enter combat with your balls flopping around like eastern promises i don't want that either so how impressingly threatening is his penis that that's the weapon maybe that's what it is maybe he's just got a fucking hammer down there and he's like it's

gonna scare him if he hears a noise he takes his pants off and he goes out is there a problem and people go jesus no i guess not never mind holy shit wow yeah because if you broke into someone's house and just a monstrously huge dong came out you might be like holy shit it's distracting it would be enough to take you off your mission anyway it'll it'll give the person whose dick is out a couple extra seconds exactly where people where people will be like, God damn. Oh, what is that? Don't use that on me, I hope. Hey. Hey, now. So, yeah, he pleads innocent to two counts of indecent exposure in this whole deal here.

He enters the pleas after he waived his first appearance in court and said, you know, I'm there for the pleas. And they said he just had a sweatshirt on. And they said he just had a sweatshirt on January 6th, 88. So during this whole thing, while this is going on in the courts, he also, I guess, a rookie defenseman named Luke Richardson had cross checked him along the boards. Oh, boy. Which is going to piss off a veteran player a lot. God damn it, Luke. So he got minor penalties for slashing and roughing. And apparently Cicerelli said he'd been hit a

few times after the whistle by this asshole too so he's a little bit pissed off so with about three minutes left in the second period cicerelli quote hit richardson on the side of the head and neck then on the top of the helmet before missing with a third swipe of his stick oh my he beat him with a stick repeatedly not not just once. We've all seen the McSorley. Yeah. And he falls down, knocks the guy out. That was a shot.

He repeatedly beat this man with a stick like Joe Pesci. He went full fucking Pesci and Casino here. Neck and then on top of the head and then tried to get him a third time and missed? And hit him, yeah. I guess a swipe on top of the helmet before missing with a third swipe. Got it, yeah. And then he started yelling, you hear a little fucking and missed? I guess I swiped the top of the helmet before missing with a third swipe. And then he started yelling, You hear a little fucking girl, Ace? Where's the fucking tough guy that told my friend

to go fuck himself, huh? He's sticking up his fucking ass. Where's the fucking tough guy now? That's what he said. He's beating him with a stick. We were just talking about Casino before the episode. Sorry. Great shit. So he received a major penalty for high sticking and a match penalty for deliberate attempt to injure. Or better known as assault.

Better known as assault with a deadly weapon. Honestly, it's a fucking stick with a fucking pretty nasty part on the end. It's a fucking wooden sight. It's called a blade. hook on the pretty nasty part on the end it's a fucking wooden site it's called a blade you know so they uh they gave him a six that gave the leafs a six minute power play where they scored twice and tied the game so didn't help there either uh minnesota's assistant coach said if the referee won't help him dino has to help himself he did what he had to do to protect himself he's getting hit late and he got cross-checked and it was like, motherfucker, this is how we handle that here.

Which makes sense. That guy won't do it again probably. Cicerelli later on says, quote, the same guy got me twice. He stuck me in the neck, then cross-checked me into the boards and nothing gets called. If the officials call everything and call it early, then this stuff doesn't happen. So there you go. yeah i would say uh also he said the coach told him dino do what you have to do so he said i'm gonna go fuck that guy up and he said you gotta fuck him up you gotta fuck him up uh it was he also they also called it the worst swix uh swick stinging, Jesus Christ, stick swinging display that he had seen in Maple Leaf Gardens in at least two decades, the coach said.

So it's not great. You're going to find me in a real bad mood. Yep. Dino, the coach said, quote, Dino wasn't right by any means, but it wasn't as bad as I was led to believe. Oh, the commissioner said that. It was his first stick offense, and it was provoked. However, though, he does receive a 10-game suspension. Wow.

He says it was apparent that through anger he lost control, and although no serious injury resulted, his actions were potentially dangerous. Yeah. If he hit him once, fine, because he cross-checked me, but it's repeatedly trying to beat the guy. He went full. He was trying to beat the guy. He went full. He was trying to injure him.

Yeah. He was like fucking Sonny Corleone beating up his brother-in-law for smacking his sister around. Not going to stop. Can't do that. That's not going to work. So he said, Cicerelli said the suspension was a little severe, but he said, quote, if this is what it takes for the league to clean things up, then I'll accept it. But he said, quote, if this is what it takes for the league to clean things up, then I'll accept it.

But he said, sure, I overreacted, but I'm not going to have my career end because someone does that to me. It was a buildup of a lot of guys slashing me and running me. I'm a little guy, 5'10", 180, and I'm not going to fight. My only self-defense is to keep my stick in my hands, and that's what I did. If the officials don't protect me, I have to protect myself. Okay. Yeah. He's a scorer and a sister and a small guy.

He's the guy that the enforcers protect. And why is the guy, this is what I don't understand, why is whoever the guy is on their team whose job it is to make sure shit like that doesn't happen, why is he having to do, you never saw Wayne Gretzky have to beat somebody with a stick because he always had fucking, you know, McSorley or somebody like that watching his back. That would do it for him. That's why you have that guy. So your goal scorer doesn't get suspended for eight fucking games. Your thug does.

That's the point. That's why you have an enforcer. The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Ding! The queen of the courtroom is back.

I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone.

OK, so, um. Not this is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother.

That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that? I have a crystal ball in my head. It's an all-new season. It's streaming. You can say anything.

Judy Justice. Only on Freebie. Fuck, who was their enforcer? I don't know back then, but they really needed one. I would have no fucking clue. If I was that ownership, the first thing I would do right then is go, who's the fucking mean know meanest guy we can get yeah yeah to protect him because this is ridiculous we clearly need one because we don't have one yeah our guy had to fucking go joe pesci on him to to make a point so uh they said obviously this is the team obviously it hurts us but it's one of those things we have to accept dino can't let it and the hockey club can't let it get the best of us.

We have to accept it, and everybody will have to pick up the slack. All right. But the police also issue a warrant for his arrest on assault charges following the stick-swinging incident. They are going on assault, huh? They do do that, yes. During the game there, he did all of that, blah, blah, blah. And they announced that the league would suspend him for 10 games.

And then the police said they will try to arrest Cicerelli when Minnesota goes to Toronto for the February 24th game. If he's not with the team, he'll be arrested and held for a court appearance the next time he comes to Toronto. So he goes to Toronto,

he's going to fucking get arrested. They said, quote, we have officers at Maple Leaf Gardens. And if we feel the assault is a little more than what falls under the guidelines of a bit of a scuffle in a hockey game, we do conduct investigation and we try to speak to the crown attorney. In the Cicerelli case, there was a weapon used, which was a hockey stick that was used to hit the man in the head. Yeah, I mean, that makes sense.

It's an assault charge. He said, Dino said, quote, if it happens again, I'll do the same thing. Oh, my God. He's learned no lessons. Don't fuck with me. Don't cross check me. You fuck with me. I'm going to fucking hit you in the head with a stick.

I don't care. You have to do that. We'll get people to stop. Yeah. Yeah. You can't say, oh, OK, you can hit me again now and take cheap shots at me because i'm you know thoroughly chastened no and if it happens again i'll you'll be coming out of your coma right when i come out of jail i was gonna say and i'll fucking come down there and i'll bust your fucking head wide open again

he's not flying he's stupid i'm stupid that's my business that's my business that's amazing he said that uh uh he swung his stick like a baseball bat right over my head is what the other player said he hit me in the head two or three times it sort of stunned me well yeah no shit he's got hit in the head three times with a hockey stick, stupid. So that's wild. He said, this is Cicerelli, quote, I don't understand. Well, you know, let's do it in their own words for this. What do you say? Yeah.

Let's see what's going on with that. I think he needs it in their own words here. He says, quote, in their own words, I don't understand it. Hundreds of things like this have happened before. Why now? Oh, I could have seen if the guy was hurt, but if I wanted to hurt him, I could have hurt him. I don't see what the

police have to do with none of this. I don't consider it serious. They've arrested a lot of guys in Toronto over the years and nothing's ever happened. I'll be out on the street in five minutes. Come for me. Let's go. I'll be out on the street before dinner, pal.

I'll be eating linguine and clams before you even fucking even know it, buddy. You don't even know nothing about it. Right about the time I get out. Right about the time I get out of jail, you'll be coming out of your coma, hopefully. Hopefully. So January 28th, 1988, he is going to plead guilty for indecent exposure. Okay, we still got that one. We still got his dick out to deal with before we deal with him beating a man's head in with a stick.

Under the plea agreement, a second count of indecent exposure was dismissed, and he will be placed on probation for one year in order to complete counseling as well, which I believe, Dino, why is your dick out all the time? Put your dick away. I feel like that is the more, the bigger penalty. That's the pressing matter. You've got to talk to somebody else about this. Yeah. They should come to his house, advise him about some safety pants by the door, you know?

Just throw them on, buddy. That's the embarrassing part fuck probation to go see somebody from time to time you got to talk to somebody face to face and discuss the incident and if he fails to do that he could be sentenced to 90 days in jail oh so he's got he's got to do it yeah um the charge to which he pleaded guilty will be dismissed and the offense expunged if he's not arrested or convicted in any similar offenses as well. So they're cutting him some slack here in Minnesota. Jesus, that's fucking funny. I love how they had a surveillance team set up to look for his dick.

And he's saying it's only one time, but why would there be a surveillance team if there was a a team of dino pecker watchers there's a team of guys going when he comes out with that dick out boy we swoop in keep an eye out for the chicharella yeah keep an eye out for his little chicharelli that's what he calls it so uh that is fucking wild um i guess a neighbor said that she had seen it she'd seen him expose himself at least four times in the previous month when she had driven by the house. In a month? In a month. Four times in a month.

Hi. This happened in November in Minnesota. It's cold. It's cold as shit out there. Your dick is not going to look impressive in November in Minnesota with it out. It's just not. You don't want that out? No. It's just not. You don't want that out. No.

It's not like you're showing off at that point. I don't care who you are. It's going to be fucking, it's going to, like a turtle, it's going to be. It's got to be incredible in summer. Retracted. Oh, in the summer it's swinging all over the place. But in the winter, in the winter you're going to have to find it. Just a robin's egg sitting there.

You're going to have to coax him out. So the defense lawyer says he only pleaded guilty because he wants to move on with his life. That's it. And they said he's not going to dwell on it. His lawyer said, quote, it would be a waste of his time and my time and the court's time to dwell on this issue. Let's forget it ever happened. What do you say? Let's not talk about my dick anymore.

Let's not talk about Dino's dick anymore. That is fucking amazing. They asked the North Stars any comment, and they said no. Not a word. We sidestepped this whole incident. Not going to do that. I'd rather not. No, we're good.

You know what? No. August 25th, 1988 is his whole court for his stick swinging incident here uh he's had a dick swinging incident in the court and a dentist dick swinging incident swings everything this guy swinging everything so uh the um the uh he said quote if he gets one day in jail this is the uh it was who this? Ron, oh, of Los Angeles. Okay, of another team. He says if he gets one day in jail, I know about 12 guys who should get life.

So they're like, this is a normal thing that happens. But they're trying to set a precedent here. He's convicted on assault charges stemming from this. So he's actually convicted. And they said, the one guy, the Hockey League guy said, quote, if they're going to set a precedent, they should get the right guys. They should get the guys who instigate that sort of thing. So, yeah, he spent less than two hours in jail before being released when notice of appeal was filed. filed and he said quote it was okay at the courthouse because they put me in the women's cell and i was the only one there but it was a little but it was a little scary in there he said um he said the fellow inmates were real nice when they learned who he was yeah yeah he said i ended up signing autographs i asked a couple i asked some for paper and a guard gave me some

he just pushed it through the bars, the police were pretty friendly toward me. Yeah. He said, maybe I overreacted, is what he said. Quote, but there's been more severe cases. I just think the judge wanted to use me as precedent. But if I'm going to be an example, then the NHL is going to have to step in and stop all the fighting and stick swinging. So, yeah. He said, this is ridiculous.

He gets released from jail. He goes to a hotel and flies back to Minneapolis. And, yeah, so 10-game suspension. It's fucking silly. He said, his agent said, you have to eliminate stick swinging. I think most people agree fighting is going to happen in hockey and nothing is going to happen with fighting unless it's premeditated. But if you raise your stick, you're going to get in trouble.

Yeah, that makes sense. He later says, though, he's pissed off. He said, quote, They don't show you the clips before it happened and what set me off. Luke Richardson, six foot five and I'm five foot ten. And he cross checked me right about right about the hockey, right about the hockey pants. And I thought I broke my ribs like where they come up to, I guess, because they come up to rib height. I looked over at the referee, and there was no call on the play. I guess the Italian blood came out of me.

I approached him, and we got our sticks up. I learned to survive with that kind of size difference. You have to be tough, and you have to keep your stick up, because these guys are going to take liberties on you. Oh, is what he said after that. Cross check is when you take the stick in both hands and push it, right? Yeah, use it as a- So he put it right in his gut.

In his ribs, yeah. So he said, that hurt, so he fucking whacked him. He said, I went overboard a little bit. He insulted him a little bit. He said, that's- I went overboard a little bit, but that's how you get respect in this league. It's about respect, Jimmy. It's about respect.

Sometimes you got to call a guy a mutt. Jesus Christ. Why does it have to be so stereotypical? Dino. Why? He runs with it. Why, why, why? He embraces it.

Why does it have to be so stereotypical? Everything he's saying is things I was saying is a joke Jesus Christ Tell you get respect In this league let me tell you If the same play happened again I would do the same thing again He said guys learn to leave me

Alone because they know I wasn't going to be Intimidated he said it was a Media circus and I didn't really care I was sentenced to a day in jail but I Spent just two hours in there signing autographs and they let me go. I'm free. Look at that. Celebrity in there. I'm free, Ma.

I'm free every morning. But every morning I'm free. I get a nice one every night, Ma, but in the morning I'm free. So he's free. Just settle down, Dino. Let's just settle down. Let's just settle down. Yeah, I want you to settle down.

So 878080 makes 210 000 so good for him um he apparently um gets married he and linda weren't married before we're here we had the baby with yeah just living together um he gets married and he's his agent said dino's a happily married man He and Linda Cicerelli tied the knot in 88. However, the family likes to keep their married life away from the public. Yeah. Listen, this is private. Hey. Oh, back up over here. None of your business.

He's such a stereotype. It's none of your business. Calm down. Why don't you mind your fucking business? How many kids you have? Why don't you mind your business, all right? This is a personal, private matter, I don't think. What do you care?

What do you care? What are yous doing? 88-89 with Minnesota he starts out with, but he's traded in the middle of the year. Okay. March 7th, 89, he's traded to the Washington Capitals. So, gone. Total that year, 76 games, 44 goals, 30 assists. So, still has a damn fine year, but he's traded.

The Capitals that year go to the playoffs. They're 41-29-10, first in their division. So, looks good, but they lose in the first round of the Flyers. Oh, no. None of it matters. 88-89, he was holding out during training camp this year, and he doesn't sign until two days before training camp where he signs a four-year contract with the Minnesota North Stars again.

What? Yeah, the Capitals got him for half. They gave up two players to get him for half a season. Oh, and they were doing great. They just wanted to get a new guy another they were great yeah somebody to put them over the top make a playoff charge and lost in the first round of the playoffs yep and then lost him yep he signs a four-year contract with the north stars worth 325 000 per season and has a bunch of bonuses as well okay so damn good for that time that's $804,000 now so not bad

$89.90 here for wait for is he in Washington now? I thought he got traded back to Minnesota signed a four year contract with the North Stars in the 88-89 oh that was before the season oh and then they traded him after that

because he's already signed for three years that makes sense so he's in Washington. I apologize, Washington fans. Okay. Capital fans there. So 80 games played. That's D.C., right? Obviously.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Capitals, uh-huh. Capitals. D.C. In D.C., 80 games he plays, 41 goals, 38 assists. So not bad. He's having a good year here. The Capitals go to the playoffs.

They're under.500, but they go to the playoffs. Of course they do. They beat the Devils, then the Rangers. So after they've ruined most of the metropolitan New York area's season here, they get swept by Boston. There you go. May 20, 1990, or May 12, 1990. I apologize. By the way, here's an article from the aniston uh aniston

star our friends over there at the aniston star down there in alabama down there in alabama here through the new york times service but there it is um apparently the u.s attorney's office is investigating charges that four members of the was capitals subjected a 17-year-old girl to rape and sodomy. Oh, God. In a limousine in Georgetown. That's not good. Gee, it'd be so much harder to do that if your dick was put away. Right.

That's the thing that... He fits in real well in D.C. with all the perverts. Oh, my God. he fits in real well in dc with all the perverts oh my god uh the girl filed charges with the dc police who reportedly found reason to believe that a crime had occurred good for her lieutenant said there's evidence of sexual activity uh the police and she's 17 so none of them should be fucking having sex with her no matter what no matter how in how much she wants to zero evidence of this there should be none. Nope.

Well, if there was any evidence, it should be from about two and a half minutes of sexual activity with another 17-year-old. Not some fucking hockey player. That would be it. So the police said the girl told them she'd been talking to some of the players at a team party in a Georgetown bar. Why is she at a team party in a georgetown bar why is she at a team party and why who let her in who said let's let fucking young this is why it's so much because i know why because i've been a bouncer before i've seen bouncers not id girls that are attractive that's why they don't fucking care they want attractive girls in a bar so there you go probably does not look 17 which is no

excuse they should fucking idea here so she's not hanging around yeah yeah when you're inside she probably fits in but at the door with that plastic thing in her pocket that says uh junior at a high school because she probably doesn't she's her fucking high school id in her pocket she just got there from field hockey practice so she's you know a little late to the party so uh they said that uh that four capitals uh or i guess cicerelli i'm sorry cicerelli's the one who started this dino grabbed her by the arm and pulled her out of the building she said dino jesus christ i mean i'm happy he didn't hit her with a stick but i don't know what's gonna happen now she said he forced her into a limousine that was parked in the in the alley

behind the bar yeah another player was already inside the car and then two other players came in the car after as well yeah the u.s attorney's office is considering whether to present the evidence to a grand jury and um an official who noted that that uh you know rape was an official noted that rape's a hard crime to prove they actually they said that in the newspaper good lord he said that only after being promised anonymity oh that's fucking amazing he said i'll give you a quote but you can't quote me use my name i'll say this and he said well rape's an awful hard time wow i that's a terrible thing to say poof the accused players are cicerelli jeff cortenall neil sheehy and scott stevens have we we've talked about scott stevens before um so uh they said that uh wow lawyers for cortenol and

cicerelli didn't return any messages there and um the owner of the capitals um jesus christ this guy's gotta he's unavailable this guy he said unavailable for comment right now but the spokesperson for the capitals said they had no comment also. So at least they're not sweeping it under the rug here. Wow. They canceled a, after this, they canceled a salute to the Capitol celebration. Fucking scheduled for the next day. That salute's going to be a middle finger. Oh, my God.

Jesus. The police said the girl told them she'd been invited to the party by she he and so she didn't even sneak in she said she got invited a player invited a 17 year old to the party she had been accompanied by several friends and uh wow that is gross that is fucking something here uh they said because it's a juvenile and a sex offense we're very careful about what information we give out. Our investigators have presented the facts to the U.S. Attorney's Office. We turned the case over to the U.S. Attorney's Office to save the victim from telling her story twice. They will decide whether there's any prosecutorial merit.

Wow. Okay. Jesus. Okay. May 8th, 1990. Another player, Nick Kiprios here. Kiprios. Yeah, that's how you say it, I believe.

Kiprios. He said that he saw this. He watched it happen? Yeah, they have a witness now. That's not great here. This is, man, Jesus Christ. He says that he saw the limo incident. He said that he witnessed several of his teammates struggling with a 17 year old girl

oh my god struggling this is like a physical that's disturbing holding her down that's disturbing four fucking guys are gonna four hockey players are gonna run a forcible train on a junior in high school it's disturbing a fucking join in on a rape train the rape train what the fuck man this guy can't do that he saw he said he saw it he's the washing he's the left winger of the team here and he said he briefly stepped into the limousine but quickly exited when he saw the woman struggling with the other players rather than going hey why you're raping that girl why don't you stop this this is terrible i feel like if you go hey hey, stop raping her, that would probably make them at least pause for a moment.

Maybe the girl can crawl out of the fucking limo here. You know these guys. It's not like you were like, oh, you walk down an alley and there's four dangerous people with their fucking switchblades out and you go, I'm going to back away from this and go call the cops. These are your teammates. Hey, Dino, stop raping. Put your dick away. What the fuck, man? away from this and go call the cops like these are your teammates yeah hey dino stop right put your dick away what the fuck man um another capitals player right wing steve leach he told

investigators that he dated the alleged victim why are they hanging out with 17 year olds why are they saying worse things what it gets worse they raped a 17 year old then it gets worse is what they're saying that's the that's what the headline of the story should be but don't worry there's more disgusting details to come oh my god it's like a rape tooth it's got a deep we invited her and a bunch of her other uh adolescent girlfriends to come along. And also, she's his ex-girlfriend. High school friends. Yeah. Why is she his ex-girlfriend?

Hey, come on. What is happening here? He said that he dated her before and she called him later on in the day to tell him about what happened in the limousine. Hey, your teammates fucking raped me, apparently. What happened in the limousine? Hey, your teammates fucking rape me. Apparently she told police and him that for the players participated in raping and sodomizing her. Golly.

Think about this. Oh, this is right from the newspaper inside the limo parked right outside the champion sports bar. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That is fucking disturbing. And you can hear the warrant playing in there and shit. You're like, this is awful. In D.C., where there are so many women that'll buy. You know what I mean?

This is a town. Chock full of people willing to do this. This is prostitute Mecca over here. You could buy anything, any kind of woman you want. And they're discreet and everything else. These politicians would be completely fucked if this industry didn't exist. These women will do it with a smile. Absolutely.

Not struggling to get free. This is terrible, and you're ruining somebody. You can find out what kind of weird butthole play the premiere of China likes at the same time. It'll be a lot of fun. This poor girl's going to have so much damage. So much damage. Yeah, so no charges have been filed yet and team officials have certainly declined to comment on the incident they're like we uh no again they get fucking again it happens they interviewed a 22 year old named sharice mayo who went to the champions with her that night and she said that she spoke to her the next

morning and accompanied her to the hospital where she was examined uh mayo's a waitress who works with the 17 year old girl at a sports bar in fairfax that's how she knows these guys yep fairfax virginia she works at a sports bar this is why you can't have a 17 year old working in a fucking bar at night this is bad bad news here. Told, by the way, there's laws trying to be passed right now for it to be legal in, I think it's Iowa and a couple other Midwestern states, for 15

to 17 year olds to work behind the bars at places. Behind the bars. Yes. Because you should have drunkards hitting on 15 year olds. That's going to be, 16 year olds, that's going to be terrific for everything. This is why you shouldn't have that happen, people in those fucking states. Jesus Christ.

So, yeah, they really want child labor to come back in the Midwest. They need it. In the South. They love it. Yeah, they really want it for some reason. That's where all these laws are being proposed, a bunch of them right now. So don't fucking blame me if you're mad at that. So Washington Post, this woman told the Washington Post that she had made arrangements to go with her friend to Champions that night for the party.

She said that the 17-year-old picked her up at the restaurant she worked at at 9.30, and Mayo said that they arrived at Champions at about 10. Mayo said once inside the bar, she showed her ID, and her friend explained that she didn't have her ID with her, but she knows a bunch of the players. So obviously she's fine. Yeah. And they let her in. That's how. Hey, Dino, they're harassing me, but she's with us. Don't worry.

No, she's cool. Yeah, I dated her. It's my ex-girlfriend. Come on. Holy balls. No 17-year-old should say about a hockey player. That's my ex-girlfriend come on holy balls no 17 year old should say about a hockey player that's my ex-boyfriend no that's never really disturbing especially one that's in the show like i can see one junior hockey league that's my ex-boyfriend but that's fine playing in the show no never mind that show this show fuck that so mayo said that after about two hours the pair split up and then didn't talk again until the next

morning during the employees meeting at the bar they worked at and she said that her play the players offered her a ride to her car in the limo that's why she got in it she said they said yeah we'll give you a ride to your car and uh she said that in her account that uh steven stepped out of the limo and ordered the limo driver to get out and be a lookout for the four players too that is kidnapping yeah and they should fucking be if they charge them they should charge this limo driver too i'm sorry i don't give a fuck if that's your job or not you don't fucking let people be raped that's not part of your job if you get fired i have a feeling you have recourse for that if so yeah they fired me because they they think i should let people be raped in the car and i i was against it so that's please so this gets a lot of attention for a minute here um obviously. But he gets lucky.

Dino and the other players get really lucky because apparently this was a huge story, obviously, as you can imagine, four local fucking huge athletes raping a teenager. But then the drug trial of Mayor Marion Barry pops up. Oh, thanks a lot, you crackhead. With the mayor smoking crack there. And that kind of knocks it

off the front page and it becomes way less of a big deal so they got lucky about that one you know they're like huge and then they re-elected him is that right and then oh yeah later a couple years later they re-elected him he came back and was like i'm clean now america loves a recovery we love it more than anything we love to tear them down and then watch them climb the fucking steps. Build them up, tear them down, because how much that shows we have the power. We can build you up, tear you down. Then, you know what? Even if you're in the gutter, we can pick you up, polish you off, and fucking stick you back out there again.

That's how much power we have. Look at Brendan Fraser. Pulled him right out of a fucking gutter. You put him in. Fatten up, tubby. Let's go, motherfucker. Here's your oscar get the fuck out of here see how we did that aren't we amazing that's what people do they love it here so um this obviously pissed people off about 50 protesters showed up to protest the capitals games calling

themselves the outraged women of was Washington was their title, I guess. I feel like 50 is a little light for this. Right? Oh, wow. There should be a – Is that the name of it? Ow. Ow.

Yeah. Outraged Women – I think it's more like James Brown, like ow. Okay. You don't have the of O. You just – it's O-W-W. Is that what you think? Yeah.

Yeah. Those are the capitalized ones. Ow. That's a – Yeah. Ow. That's exactly what she said, I'm sure. That's what I mean.

That's rough. I'm surprised there's only 50 people there. Especially there. Yeah, they love to picket shit. That's what I mean. But there's more to picket there. That seems like a thing to picket. But you're going to be low on the picket scale in Washington.

You know what I mean? They're talking about nuclear weapons and fucking things like that. But you're going to be low on the picket scale in Washington. You know what I mean? They're talking about nuclear weapons and fucking things like that. And then you're like, this girl at the bar, it's terrible. But when we're talking about world destruction. We have a hockey team? Yeah. Also, do we have a hockey team?

So these women were protesting the sports bar champions there. And they say that they were upset about the treatment of the case and the lack of outrage from people as well, which, yeah, that sounds really fair. The sport, the public director of the team said, we're going on with business as usual. How do you not pause? They said it's too early to tell whether the allegations against the players will have any impact on next season's ticket sales. That's not what we asked. Wow. He said, quote, we've had a lot of letters, a lot of calls from fans and season ticket holders who are concerned about the situation. There have been comments from people who've said, we've heard what has happened.

Is this true? What's going on? But most of them end up saying, when will the team be saying something and then just keeping their tickets? They don't care. They ask questions, though. June 30th, 1990,

the grand jury declines to indict any of them. Holy. None of them. They voted not to indict one of these people. They all denied her accusations or kept silent. Some of them just pled the fifth at the grand jury thing there. I guess originally they didn't make any. Some of them made statements.

Some of them didn't. They said that the grand jury decision hinged on the quote, the girl's credibility. Oh, this never mind the witness who's a fucking another hockey player who said, I open a fucking limo door and went, oh, don't want to go in there. Someone's being raped. What about him? They probably said, well, he didn't stay long enough to really see what was going on. I guarantee you. He just sees a woman squirming.

Oh, yeah. Well, two guys hold down her shoulders. That's great. I've had a woman squirm that was enjoying it before, James. You don't know. Yeah. You don't know what she's into. What a fucking mess.

Holy shit. They said that the authorities were certain there had been sexual activity in that limousine, but the grand jury did not believe that she was forced to have sex with the players. That's what it was. She comes out and makes a statement here, too. She was obviously upset with the grand jury vote. She said, I'm not finished with it yet. I'm not going to give up.

So I guess she's going to sue them now. She'd have to do here. The Jesus, the owner of the Capitals said, quote, although there was no criminal activity involved in the incident, we realized there's been substantial damage to the image of the Washington capitals organization within the community. We deeply regret this situation and we do not condone or excuse the conduct of the players involved and their failure to appreciate the responsibility they have to shoulder as role models for young people. What a terrible way to put it. What a terrible statement. From beginning to end, there was no criminal activity. You don't know that.

There just wasn't anything that they could be charged with. That they were indicted on, for Christ's sake. Asshole. This is, wow. Wow. If you have any sack as a fucking owner i could never and if you if four of your fucking players yeah i don't even care if it was voluntary if they if they pulled a fucking seven drunk 17 year old girl into a fucking limousine and had sex with her all those players

are off my fucking team period i don't care who they are. You're fucking gone. End of story, motherfucker. That's it. Period and done. I don't care if we don't go to the playoffs next year. Presumably, if I own a sports team,

I could still pay my rent if we don't fucking win the Stanley Cup next year. We'll fucking start over. Fuck this. I'm not going to be known as the asshole

who has a bunch of rapists on his team. I'm not doing that. I don't want to wander around town and see these fucking jerseys of these players popping this up yeah i'm not gonna be any part of that i don't want to be the guy who's like oh yeah all your rapey employees like no fuck that i'm not involved in this they're scum and they're gone so fuck that shit that even for oh my god that's terrible. Dino says, quote, I'm relieved.

I bet you are. I'm sure. I'm glad it's over so I can get on with my life with my family in the capitals. His wife should be fucking livid. She should hate him. Put your pants on. Unless you're in our bedroom, pants stay on. Right.

Bedroom, locker room. Those are the only two places your pants are allowed to be off. That's it. He's doing the if allegedly uh if this happened that's the progression the natural progression that they do absolutely very common absolutely abso-fucking-lutely and what comes after that murder we all know that's what's why i'm not every time, but it's a lot. Silence. So don't get caught. Yeah, that's what they do. Fucking insane. So, wow.

She, he, the other player said, quote, obviously, I'm extremely relieved. I'm very concerned about the young fans who idolized us. I've got out of my way for them and will continue to do so. You've got out of your way for the young fans to date them is what you've got out of your way to do i've gone out of my way to give their number you know my number to them and you know give them free drink tickets for the bars i go to so i can get them a little lubed up you know how it goes you go out of my way to get bouncers to stop looking at their id yeah get bouncers to look the other other way i hope the thing they will learn from this is the importance of telling the truth. They can see what happens when the truth isn't told.

This motherfucker turned it as, this is what happened when people lie. What? You gotta be, wow. Sheehy, you're a cunt. You're a fucking, I'm sorry, I don't care who you are. That's a terrible thing to say. Yeah, you are a fucking twat. I'd love to hit you in the head with a hockey stick right now.

I would love to. Love to. She he declined to comment at first when he was asked if he had sex with the girl. And then yesterday after yesterday, you know, when they're talking to him, he declined to say what happened in the limo as well. Only saying, quote, the grand jury has spoken. That's all that needs to be said. You know who says that fuck you how's that people who are lying yeah hey she you can suck my dick how's that and then we'll

see if the grand jury fucking what they think about it oh my god how about me and jimmy fucking run a knife tower on you how's that sound and we'll see what the grand jury thinks about it you fucking twat fuck is he still alive if? If he's alive, please, everybody. First name? If he has a fucking Twitter, social media, call him a fucking cunt on there, please. Fuck him. Fuck this guy.

Is it S-H-E-E? S-H-E-E-H-Y. Oh, my. Look his ass up. See if he's alive and fucking out there. Because if he is, this guy deserves to be treated like an asshole. Look up Sheehy Capitals. I'm sure they'll come up.

He's still alive. He's only 63. Oh, good, good. That's not even considered an elderly person, right? No. We could fight him fairly, I think, still. He's a tough son of a bitch. He's in the NHL.

He doesn't even qualify for Social Security yet, James. I think the two of us together could take his old ass he's got to have some hobbly injuries i'm sure he's tough as hell yeah but he'll take whatever we deliver but and yeah a hockey stick and two people i feel like we could take him because i want to fight this man right now i really do two on one don't get me wrong yeah yeah he's a tough son of a bitch he's a hockey player no no no but the two of us yeah yeah well one of us is in the front of you. The other's coming from the back.

Just know that. It's happening. Kind of like your night in a limo, Sheehy. Yeah. That's exactly what I'm talking about. And we'll see how it ends up. You never know. Like I said.

Who knows? Who knows? We'll see where it goes, Sheehy. And then we'll see what the grand jury says about it. You fucking jerk. What a fucking asshole these people are happens when people lie this is what yeah people like me get inconvenienced right fucking piece of shit oh my god so she said the girl said she was very confident that the truth would come out she

wouldn't discuss the details of the case on advice of her attorneys and said that a civil lawsuit is possible her and her parents who were present during the also there during the interview her parents praised the police and prosecutors for their handling of the matter you know they said wasn't their fault the grand jury wouldn't do what they took us seriously she has trophies from downhill skiing and figure skating by the way she's an athlete she's not some that's the other thing she's this is not some fucking you know some desperate girl who's like from a trailer park and all that she's an athlete she's not some that's the other thing she's this is not some fucking you know some desperate girl who's like from a trailer park and all that she's a fucking athlete with her life ahead of her this isn't a good thing for her this doesn't make her who looks up to like

yes that idolizes athletes that are professionals right in a cold weather sport there yeah and and they're talking to her when they when the statements that they say to kids should always look up to us we're sorry that we hurt children that looked up to look up to us no just the one that's the one you hurt that's fucking crazy she said she's not even really a sports fan she just likes to play sports she's an athlete she said she's been to three or four capitals games but only when like a friend of uh because she was a friend of one of the players she said she never attended any party involving the hockey players before that night that was the first time she said i'm not a fan of the capitals i don't consider me a groupie as they put it that's how they kept saying it was

some groupie it was some groupie she's 17 man you can't be a groupie at 17 no it's illegal i'm sorry you can't be a groupie if someone's in high school you just can't be that's fucking ridiculous that's oh that's sweet that kid likes us that's what that is right that's what that is yeah that's sweet at that point and why would you why would you want that anyway when plenty of 28 year old women that's the other thing around the dick like a nobody's business like a banshee and willing what and what that's what I mean willing there's plenty of 28 year

old women who would have wanted all four of them to fucking do that there's a lot of women not every woman but a lot of women out there who like athletes and would be fine with that that's the thing so find one of them or hire one i don't care but five make sure they're adults make sure they've at least graduated high school please make sure they don't have fucking chemistry class in the morning this is ridiculous right you make

stuff you miss two of the things that make sex good the consenting adult part you don't have consent and you don't even have an adult you don't even have a motherfucking adult yeah and i don't care if the i don't know if the legal age of consent is 17 in there it doesn't matter we all know what the fuck that is right if i if my daughter's 17 and you're an adult and you fuck her we all know what it is everybody out there if someone what age is it to that you're not mad if they fuck your daughter 17 adult you're mad you're coming with a stick and you're beating the shit out of that guy i hope if you're any kind of fucking parent you are anyway because i would father that gives a shit yeah holy shit jesus christ so wow i that's she he though that was especially had some stank on it i want what a fucking twat.

He is. That's a man on social media. That's like that's probably done that before. Yeah. That sounds like that. What do you want? That's what that happens. Yeah.

Jesus Christ. They asked her, quote, you know, how do you feel about the whole situation? She said, how do I feel? I feel I have lots of feelings, but there aren't. There's not a way to point out how I really feel. I feel angry, very angry. Her mother said she spent a lot of time blocking things out. I'm always worried about her.

I've been very proud of her for coming forward, but as a mother, I'm very worried. That's the other thing. Got both her parents there next to her. This is not some wayward runaway kid here who's, you know, was in jail for crystal meth two weeks before that and, you know, is worldly. Huge credit to the interviewer to expose how young she still is that the word she uses to – she doesn't have an extensive vocabulary because she's still so young. Angry. She's stuck on angry. That's where she's at so young angry she's stuck on angry yeah that's where she's

at and her blanket ass word and also when your head's swimming your brain stops do stops picking up other words and shit and they use what's most basic so that's the other thing i think she's swimming i think in her head with this probably destroyed um yeah that's uh that's fucking wild man so the washington post that had quoted kiprios because that's the one that I'm like, a guy said he saw it here. Yes. They said that the quote, oh, my God, he said later on, those statements are incorrect. I neither observed what was reported, nor did I ever make a statement to such a statement to investigators. So why do we have his quotes then?

Yeah. Yeah. Are you just what are you i'm are you trying to keep your job i don't what is happening somebody get to you what happened yeah um a source close to the investigation said that kip rios told the grand jury that he stepped inside the limo and saw the girl inside laughing and joking with the players that's what he said now meanwhile he then he said none of that even happened kiprios told the grand jury according to this person that uh he then left the limousine to get a bucket of chicken and when he returned he saw no indication the girl was being forced to do anything against her will that's what he told the grand jury so they, wow. I don't know, man. I'm just.

That doesn't tell me what's going on in that limo. That tells me I saw nothing or doing nothing. He's trying to paint it like she's just sitting there in the car. Oh, my God. Yeah. That's not what's happening. Holy fuck, man. Well, here's a paper here.

Here's an article from the newspaper. Scott Stevens chose to leave. Apparently he was gone. Selling himself to St. Louis. Jeff Cortnall asked to be traded away and was. I wouldn't want to be on this team if I was one of these four guys. Neil Sheehy broke an ankle. Good.

I hope it hurt. Conveniently. I wish it was both. Quote, conveniently, some might suggest ow my ankle i won't be back for at least three months if ever um wow that's fucking wild i don't even know what to say about that uh so dino cicerelli remained the only guy in uniform that was in that involved in that incident and dino says quote i didn't want to run away. I wanted to clear the air. I went to management and told them if they wanted me, I certainly wanted to be here. Oh, my God.

That is fucking wild. I don't know how the after the indecent exposure, you just be like, I don't want to hear another word about this guy's dick on my team. No, he said he campaigned to stay. He said the management had treated him well. He liked the team. He liked the fans. He had a good year on the ice. So why go? Why the fuck should I leave? He said going to another town won't help. The issue will be raised again and again. It doesn't matter where it'll be. It'll be there. You can't turn from it. Scott and Jeff will hear about it in St. Louis. Jeff will hear about it in St. Louis. So he's tried to have a public relation effort.

He telephoned season ticket holders who canceled because of him. People who called and said, I'm canceling because of that guy. He called them personally. I don't want these tickets because I think a rapist is on your team. And the team said, oh, we'll have the rapist call your house. Allegedly. How are you free? Yeah.

How about we have unsolicited calls from a man who you think is a rapist? That's what I would like. And then you can give us money again. He's telemarket public relationing? Oh, my God. Just sitting at a switchboard dialing numbers. And he comes back to this word. Nick, why do you, or Dino, why do you have to be such a fucking stereotype? Quote, they were shocked to hear from me, but I think they respected me for calling.

It's about respect. He loves respect. Yeah, he's a guinea, right? I wish I was a seasoned ticket holder. I would have loved to get that phone call. I know. Just parating him. What's up, Cicerape?

How you doing? That's immediately. Hey, it's Dino Cicerape on the phone. You want to talk to my wife? She'd love to talk to you. She's, I'd love to. Come here. Come here, honey. It's Cicerape. Come on. I got a daughter that wants to yell at you. Yeah. Oh, by the way, I also have a 17

year old, and if i see you anywhere near my property i'm gonna shoot you with a rifle i'm gonna drop you with a fucking deer rifle if you cross onto my grass i swear to god i don't carry a bower around here i carry a browning come on yeah that's what i you have your cock out i have this out for god for you only specifically come on by so uh he said he'd appear at charity all sorts of charity functions community gatherings he said every place he went he delivered the same message he's sorry and he said quote i shouldn't have been in that situation for obvious reasons i'm married i have three kids we know that's another question that's we didn't even bring that part up yet that's

that's how far down the list that is we don't care about your dumb wife who lets you fucking walk around with your cock hanging out around the house around the kids and everything we don't really care what she has to say either fuck her too how about the part where you were in a fucking limo with a 17 year old-old? There you go. Christ. I humiliated my wife and angered the heck out of her. Oh, my God. Can you imagine?

Angered the heck out of her. Imagine coming home to that. That's the one that should be angry. The 17-year-old's not angry. This one's angry. She's angry, yeah. I embarrassed my family, the team, and the fans. And they said, did you embarrass yourself? And he said, sure I did.

Because he didn't mention that in his fucking, I embarrassed all these other people. What about you, stupid? You should be embarrassed. How do you feel about it? Fuck, man. He said, I feel real bad about the situation. Oh, problem solved.

I feel real bad about it. I've apologized. I've tried to make amends. And they actually asked him have you spoken to the girl yeah how about her i hope not he said no and they said do you feel sorry for her that's a oh that question says a lot about who he is right now these are the kind of questions this is like when they ask a murder suspect what do you think should happen to the guy who did this? Right. This is what that is. He says, quote, I've got to watch what I say.

He said, that's what he said. I've got to watch what I say. Do you feel sorry for her? I got to watch what I say? Yep. Then they said, do you feel sorry for her? And no, he wouldn't answer because he said there's a possible civil suit. If he says he feels sorry for her, that could come back against him.

So he wouldn't do that. So I don't know how. This is wild. He told the season ticket holders and the media accounts of what happened. And he said what everybody thinks happened, it didn't happen. He said it didn't happen the way people said it did. But he hasn't denied that he was there. He hasn't denied sexual activity took place.

He said, I made a mistake being there, but that's all he would say. And then he'd say, I can't go into details. So he said he has no idea if the fans will forgive him. He says he hopes most of them will. He said, I'd ask them to understand that I'm human and I make mistakes. Ew. Dude. What? hopes most of them will he said i'd ask them to understand that i'm human and i make mistakes dude what this is a wow that's a lot dude i'm human wow he's trying to just say that four guys got into a limo with a girl that wanted it and we all had sex with her yeah we all romped on her that's hockey yeah i'm only human i'm only He's fucking, that's hockey is what he said, basically. What? That's hockey.

I never want to be a part of hockey. Nope. That's professional athletes, basically. Oh, boy. He said, wow. He said that he'll be taunted, obviously, by players on the road. And he said, that comes with the territory when you're a goal scorer. No.

You get it. They're not booing you because you're scoring goals. They go, boo, you rapist goal scorer. That's what they say. It's different. There's a different level of gusto when they think you raped a teenager. It's different. So happens when you're a goal scorer.

When you're a goal scorer. Is that what he calls raping a teenager or allegedly raping a teenager is scoring a goal? Wow. He said that when they ask him what he's learned, he said, quote, I've got to be careful. Every mistake I make is public. That's what he learned. That's what he learned. I've got to be more careful.

That is the progression from cock out to murder i've learned that you shouldn't leave them alive to fucking tell their stories that that's the progression five years down the line in in a killer i'm not saying he's right do that but that's the that's what he's learned accelerated because the media is involved oh quickly oh i've learned to keep that shit real quiet. Make sure that limo's like in a garage somewhere in an airplane hangar. How about I've learned never to make mistakes? Wow. That's fucking wild.

That's wild. And then the owner came over. While Cicerelli was chatting with the press answering these questions, the owner, Abe Pollan, came by. Or Pollen. He came by and gave him a nice hug around the shoulders and says, how's the family? Ew. Still, what? And the press should have said, still mad at him for rape, he said.

He said his wife thinks he raped her, allegedly, I don't know. Still mad. She's mad. His wife will be mad forever. It's not a happy place when he goes home. That's what it is. When Lorena Bobbitt cut John Bobbitt's dick off there, John Wayne Bobbitt's dick off,

she went, oh, why didn't I think of that? Fuck. Bitch. God damn it. Fuck, that would have been the thing to do. Damn it.

So he made 360 grand for that year, though. 90-91, 54 games, 21 goals, 18 assists. Washington is, are they any good? Eh, they lose to Pittsburgh in the playoffs. They were a 500 team.

Very mediocre. The Capitals, in November 8, 1990, they went to play the New York Rangers, and they played multiple times the Beatles song, I Saw Her Standing There. Yeah, New York's vicious, man. Oh, yeah. times the Beatles song I saw her standing there which if you don't know the lyrics are she was just 17 you know what I mean yeah so that's what they played repeat yeah the bleacher the bleacher guys at Yankee Stadium learned Japanese taunts to yell at Ichiro like the whole section learn how to speak fucking how to yell mean shit in japanese just to fuck with one guy you know they really take it to heart they take it to heart

that's fucking beautiful so 375 grand he makes for that 91 92 78 games played, 38 goals, 38 assists. As long as you keep producing, you can have your dick out, in, away, fucking anywhere you want it. So not bad at all for that. Washington that year, they were 45-27-8, so very good and lost in the first round to the Penguins. So this is the Lemieux Penguins. Goddamn Mario Lemieux, he's so good he's fucking good he made 400 grand that year though not bad but june 20th 1992 it's the end of the season he is traded by the capitals to the detroit red wings for kevin miller so getting out of there he says this is uh dino quote i was ecstatic to come to the Wings because they had a great team.

I was close to home and they were one of the original six. So it was a dream come true. I did more setting up in front of the net with Detroit because we had great perimeter players. So he said, I wondered how I'm going to get on the power play when you have Iserman and Fedorov and Lindstrom, Lindstrom uh lidstrom and coffee which i know all those fucking names they were nasty in those video games a great fucking team fuck yeah so i stuck my nose in even more in front of the net so i could be on the top power play i think the fans took to me a little bit because it's a blue collar town and they liked how hard i played we had some great teams and we're like a machine but unfortunately we couldn't get it done when I was there.

They like that blue-collar thing, because that's one thing that blue-collar fan base can relate to is fucking teenagers in limos. You know what I mean? That's one thing when you go to a factory every day and shit, you think, man, can't wait till the weekend so me and my friends could run trains

on teenagers in limousines parked outside sports bars for our special occasions. That's's the thing about blue collar people they uh they they're they're right at a party they do they do but they're right in that middle class where not a lot of girls want to fuck them because they don't make a lot of money so when they do get to get it uh sometimes they take it you gotta gotta go wild, man. Holy shit. So, 41 goals, 56 assists that year. A lot of people to fucking pass to there. Not bad at all.

They go to the playoffs. I assume they lost. Yes, they lost to the Maple Leafs. Yeah. Four to three. So, fall seven it goes there that year. He does make $850,000 that year. Jesus.

So he upped it big time. That is equivalent to $1,773,000 today. That goes so far in Detroit. Yeah, especially back then, too, when it was really going wrong, starting to fall apart in the middle at the end of falling apart. So 93-94, 66 games, 28 goals, 29 assists. So, Christ, he's's doing so well jesus man why is he doing so good on the ice and so shitty off of it um so fuck man uh detroit that year he makes 1 million 400 000 that year he crushed it cleaning up 94 95 16 goals 27 assists and only 42 games so i don't know if he was fucking hurt or what but um the team though goes all the way to the stanley cup finals before being swept by the devils that

year oh yeah yeah yeah swept by the devils that way i think the rangers won the year before if i'm not 93 94 i think they won yeah um that was a big deal in new york when i lived there that was like holy shit look at that so 828 571 dollars this is because there was a lockout this season and so his 1 million 450 thousand dollar salary was prorated for a 48 game season that's 95 96 here um he plays in 64 games and um there we go 22 goals 21 assists that year the team they go to the about 62 13 and 7 they were that's a good team that's a real good team and they lose to the avalanche in the conference finals and they won the whole thing anyway so it's patrick w It was Patrick Waugh and all that shit. He makes $1,250,000, though. Jesus Christ.

Not bad. August 27th, 96, traded by Detroit to the Tampa Bay Lightning. Okay. This is a new team. Which is not one of the original six at all. Brand fucking new, and it's going about as well as you would expect it to. at all. It's brand fucking new and it's going about

as well as you would expect it to. We shall have teams in New York, Detroit, Chicago, Montreal, Toronto, and Tampa Bay.

That is where hockey shall be played. I don't know what the... The only ice there is in your fucking margarita. That's it. And it's melting quickly, so hurry up. Very fast.

Suck it down before it's on the outside of the glass. Oh, man. Their jersey should just be like button-ups with palm trees all over them, I feel like. Some Tommy Bahama shit. And they should have sandals with ice skates on the bottom, because if you go to Tampa, hope you want to look at a lot of men feet bottom because if you go to Tampa, hope you want to look at a lot of men's feet because you're going to see a lot of it. Hope you're dying to look at men's feet constantly.

Lots of calloused heels around here. Yep. Lots of that going on. It's like cracked heels. You're going to see a lot of it. Oh, that's Tampa, the town of cracked heels. Bruised thighs and cracked heels. That's Tampa, the land of bruised thighs and cracked heels. Thatised thighs and cracked heels. That's Tampa.

The land of bruised thighs and cracked heels. That should be your town motto. That's right. Bruised thighs and cracked heels. So Tampa, not as good. 32-40 that year. They don't even go to the playoffs. He does make $1,250,000, and he's an all-star that year.

So pretty good. $250,000, and he's an all-star that year, so pretty good. 97-98, he's traded in the middle of the year by Tampa with Jeff Norton, Jim Norton's hockey-playing brother, I think, to the Florida Panthers. So they're going to keep him in Florida because Florida really needs multiple hockey teams. That's what it needs bad. Are those still there? I think they are, yeah. I don't know. They got two hockey teams? Two hockey teams that's what it needs bad are those still there i think they are yeah i don't

know they got two hockey teams two hockey teams yes florida has two hockey teams for a long time florida had two hockey teams and minnesota had none so that was that's the type of world we're living in here did the panthers move to nashville is that who's the predators are or did the predators get a fucking no that's an expansion team is that right because they got there was yeah i think there were an expansion wow nashville they're good they're real didn't they come in when carolina came in carolina has a hockey team there you go there you go yeah they play in fucking like raleigh-Durham area. That's hysterical. I think so, yeah. That's ridiculous.

I'm sorry, Canada. I can't. Yeah, we apologize for taking your fucking, your beloved sport, dragging it into a limousine outside of a sports bar and running a train on it with some of the worst states we have to offer. We apologize. Breaking the holy piss out of it with South Carolina. states we have to offer we apologize the holy piss out of it with south carolina texas phoenix and two fucking florida teams just fucking holding it down and having its way at it

just ripping it to pieces carolina nashville open and they go oh i'm joining in too let's go they start fucking romping on it holy balls people in the stands my god is happening did you see that that fight at a hockey where oh yeah that was great that little billy with the mullet screams talking all sorts of shit to an old man and then catches one he's shot 50 year old that guy was twice his size don't talk shit to a person twice your size. You deserve everything you get. Who has higher ground. Do you not understand how gravity works? Gravity. Every military operation since the beginning of time.

You don't take fire from above. Somebody needed to take him aside and tell him about Little Round Top. Nobody needs to anymore. He learned. He knows now. Beforehand. In school, someone should have took him aside and said, during the Civil War, there was Gettysburg.

A little round top is something we need to discuss. He learned. He got done from high ground. He learned fast. Holy shit, man. So the Panthers go 24, 43, and 15. Who cares? They suck.

$1,250,000 he makes. Wow. 98, 99. He1,250,000 he makes. Wow. 98, 99. He's still playing, by the way. He's 38 years old this year. He only plays in 14 games, 6 goals, 1 assist, and that is the end of his hockey career.

Okay. In his career, though, he does end up with 602 games played, 332 goals, 319 assists. That's amazing. More points than games played. That's one of those stats that catches your eye immediately when you see that. That's a big one here.

Florida wasn't any good that year also. They sucked 30-34, so they sucked. He makes for this year, including base salary, signing bonus, bonuses, and deferred income from another season, he makes $2,174,688 for a total of $11,597,259 in his hockey career. That's a nice go-away. It's a nice go-away. Not bad. He retires August 31, 1999.

There, he said quote i tried skating a bit last week and the same soreness and stiffness was there uh there's no use kidding myself anymore you're almost 40 yeah it's gonna hurt the nhl is not made for a 40 year old age no that's not right you know it's not good hang it up chief it's too much i'd put ice skates on for a 40 year old man. That's not right. You know, it's not good. Hang it up, chief. It's too much. If I put ice skates on for a day, I'd fucking suffer for a week and then giggle about how I don't belong there.

This is, wow, I'm in pain. Can you believe I did that? The first day. What an idiot. If one of us ice skated for three hours, we wouldn't be able to move our legs for a month. Every muscle in them would lock up solid. I flew and was sore for three,, we wouldn't be able to move our legs for a month. Every muscle in them would lock up solid. I flew and was sore

for three, four hours. I'm still trying to uncurl myself from the fucking flight from Portland 12 hours ago. Jesus Christ, trust me. Walking through the airport after getting off that plane, my neck is so stiff. I sat.

Just like stretching the whole time going to baggage play. I'm like, it was sick. Yeah. I get off the plane. I'm like 6'1". I got to stretch back out to 6'4". I'm all compressed into three short inches, three inches shorter. So his 608 career goals are the most goals scored by a draft-eligible player

who was never drafted by an NHL team. Wow. So that's impressive. He's the best scoring free agent nobody pickup that anybody's ever had. So that's pretty impressive. That's scoring walk-on. Yep. Here's other records.

Most points by a rookie. One playoff season he had 21 in the 81 playoffs. One season's playoff season by a rookie uh one playoff season he had 21 in the 81 playoffs most you know one season's playoff season by a rookie most goals by a rookie in one playoff season 14 because that was most points most goals and fastest player to score 20 goals uh in the 86 87 regular season he scored 20 goals in 15 games fuck so not So not bad. June 22, 2010, it's announced that he's going to the Hall of Fame. Holy shit. Yep, he's going to the Hall of Fame. He said, I'm very honored.

I didn't want to get too excited this year. When I got the call, I knew if it was going to happen, it was going to happen at a certain time. When I got it, I was just very excited and very honored to be a part of the Hall of Fame. You start thinking about all the people along the way that's helped you it's a little emotional i just lost my mom a few months ago and my dad a few years ago probably from shame i'm gonna add in there the embarrassment oh no yeah why my why you do that for it would have been nice for them to be around, but I know they're going to be down.

I know they're going to be down watching with a big smile on their face. Did he just say his parents are in hell? I know they're going to be down watching with a big smile on their face. Or do they get a little vacation from up there to come down here to be in the audience? I guess. They're going to come down and watch. He just said his parents are in hell. Let's just say that.

Yeah. They're down there watching me. No shit. he just said his parents are in hell let's just say that yeah they're down there that's wild no shit press reports said that uh basically it took him eight years it took him eight years to get in because of the off the ice shit that happened yeah they had to do all that uh post retirement he has four daughters by the way what this fucking guy oh my god how can a guy with four daughters not see what that's about? Yeah. Hey, Dino, what happened if four hockey players romped on your 17-year-old? Oh, I'd kill them with my hockey stick.

Oh, weird. Okay. Or is that like nature's punishment for what he does to women? Fuck. I hope they don't make him stare in the face. Yeah. That are going to hate him? They probably don't hate him, though. He has nine grandchildren at the time. He lived in the face. Yeah. That are going to hate him. They probably don't hate him, though.

He has nine grandchildren at the time. He lived in suburban Detroit where he has bars. He has his own bars. Yeah. His Cicerellis, they're called. Really? In Detroit, yep. Are they still open?

Oh, Christ, we're going to be going there May 5th to Detroit. I might head over to one and make some waves. Make some stickers that are mean and stick them all over the place. We should definitely put crime and sports. Listen, everybody, if you're in Detroit and Cicerelli's is still going on, by the way, I don't know if it is. We'll find out here. But if it's still going on please whatever you do do

not go there and put crime and sports stickers all over don't so mean that's so fucked up don't don't do that seriously that would be terrible all over the menus or no in the bathroom or don't message us and ask us for stickers and we'll send them to you for that purpose don't do that because we wouldn't that'd be terrible that'd be awful so rude that would be very rude so if you i mean if you insist on doing it obviously there's nothing we can do about it because we're only human but don't do it we would never we would never sanction vandalism of any kind so he said about the bars and don't and don't don't track down neil sheehy and call him a cunt constantly either that would be terrible thing to do we don't and don't don't track down neil sheehy and call him a cunt constantly either that would be terrible thing to do we don't we're never turning people on anybody but don't yell it in his

ear at his fucking self-checkout of his never ever do that no no don't slap the bible out of his hand in church and say you know we're sitting here with don't do that whatever he does i don't know tomatoes yeah what do you got there cut tomatoes huh um he says about dino says about the bars they're doing real well it's kind of my new challenge i'm there quite a bit it's fun and keeps me busy i gotta do something right yeah so you need to stay busy stay please stay busy here is a uh here's Here's a review from a former employee. Okay. This review is from April 4th, 2019, so there's a good chance these are still around. This was Shelby Township, Michigan.

This was a food runner, host, and server, former employee. He says, quote, as a food runner, I was always doing something. Whether it's running food or helping make dressings, I always had something to do. Serving was fun. The guests and staff are very nice. Depending on the day, people may stay longer to watch specific games. The manager on duty is always present and frequently interacts with the customers. I learned a lot about alcohol here and how to multitask really well.

The hardest part of the job was having to carry large trays with heavy plates it took me a few times to build up the strength for them however you can ask a fellow co-worker to follow you if you need the help the most enjoyable part was the staff they were all very friendly fun and helpful okay so he loved his job there he loved his jobs there he said it was a fun pros discounts sometimes discounts, sometimes free lunch, fun environment. Cons, short breaks, no health care. Well, that's a bar. You work in a bar, sir.

Welcome to the service industry, friend. I mean, that's tough. But there are people here. Dino made. You don't. It's hard to feel bad for Dino. But. You made a splash with this name, my friend.

Holy. There are people that I do feel bad for dino but you made a splash with this name my friend holy um there are people that i do feel bad for jimmy all of them and that is dino cicerelli yeah software build engineer at flagstar bank in farmington michigan oh my god he's in the state he went to Western Michigan University. You poor bastard. And Dino Cicerelli, client relations manager at TechWeld in New York. So there are people that- That Farmington is in Detroit, James. There you go. Well, that's fucked up. And Dino Cicerelli, commercial director at, what is this?

AZ, I don't know, what the fuck? Organic and Natural Wine. Some bullshit. It's in Italy. and it's in a brutsi holy shit that's where my family's from brutsi so look at that that's where my grandmother's from not invited to the company picnic where everybody's bringing their daughters nope keep your daughters at home on capitals day everybody so that is dino cicerelli and uh one hell of a wild story i gotta say I am that is gross

we're all grossed out great player but boy the amazing player not good don't like the allegations and I gotta say the thing that makes it so believable is his dick was out all the time showing people it we know the progression from small town murder

we know how that works we know the psychological progression of that is if they're showing it to people next, next is they're going to make them touch it, too. That's how it works. So I don't know if you enjoyed that show. Like we said, absolutely. Do not put crime and sports stickers around his bar or call Neil Sheehy a fucking cunt and say that they're so I hope he's still limping from his broken ankle. Absolutely. That would be cruel to do do and we never would recommend to do that whatsoever so unfortunately 60 and

probably doesn't know what a podcast is no not at all and if he does he would probably want to hunt us down yeah but if they want to come to our show yeah May 5th in Detroit yeah they're more than welcome half price like we said half price and we're gonna make fun of you most of the time.

So there is that. There is that. So if you want to come down, we will call you Dino Cicerepi. That's going to happen. So you're welcome to come in, though. You never know. Come on by. By the way, you should definitely head over to ShutUpAndGiveMeMurder.com

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another one here. Almost there. For the crime and sports this week, we're going to talk about the murder of Bruiser Brody and try to find some humor in that sad story. The ridiculous characters talking about all these things. That's pretty funny. Tony Atlas picking up a doctor and physically bringing him to a patient is hilarious. That right there is very funny.

There's plenty to laugh at. Delivered him with a feat. Yeah, here you go. I brought you a doctor. Then we'll talk about for small town murder, which you'll obviously have access to as well we are going to talk all about haunted hotels which are a fun subject i've actually stated a couple of those and uh well i'll let you know if i've seen anything so check those out patreon.com slash crime and sports plus you will absolutely get a shout out which is coming up in just a second but first definitely follow us on social media as well. You get updates for everything.

That is at Crime and Sports on Twitter and Facebook, at Small Town Murder on Instagram. That said, Jimmy, hit me with the names of the people who would never, ever take either of our daughters into a limo and do terrible things to them. Please hit me with them now. This week's executive producers are Wanda Lovejoy's Granny Edna, Jordan Bennett, Cara Dunnett, I believe,

Guinevere Day McPherson, not Sunny Day. Just happens to have the middle name of Day, it looks like. Oh, no. Or last. I don't know if it's hyphenated. It's possible. Other producers this week are Liz Vasquez, Rachel Ann Meredith in Canada. Thank you for coming down to the shows.

And Liz came to the show in Seattle. Seattle. Thanks, Liz. Good to see you guys. Was it Seattle? It all blends together. It was definitely Seattle. And her daughter's doing fantastic, which is wonderful.

Great. She's really thriving. Luke Joseph Scarpa. I believe that's Chief J. Strombo, is it? That's Joe Scarpa, yeah. Yep, that's him. Isaac Farkstein and the Family Foundation of Arts. That's nice. that's uh chief jay strombo is it yeah that's uh joe scarpa yeah yep that's him uh isaac parkstein and the family foundation of arts that's nice baby stinky from avid and costello i didn't i don't i

i gotta get back and watch i gotta brush up on my avid and costello history rodney lloyd and his friend mike hunt sure jesus yeah. Yaffe Rodney. Peyton Meadows, Lumberg fucked her. I don't think he fucked Peyton. Lumber fucker? That would hurt. Oh, Lumberg. I thought you said Lumber fucker. I'm like, what, like the knotholes?

I don't think he fucked Peyton Meadows. Careful. I think that was from Stephanie in Minnesota. Those are separate things. Okay, fair enough. Janice Hill, Tiffany Gonzalez. Did I say Stephanie? It was Tiffany who's, god enough. Janice Hill, Tiffany Gonzalez. Did I say Stephanie? It was Tiffany.

God damn. Whatever. Matthew Berube. Yeah, Berube. Holly McDaniel, Julia Collins, Hannah Bichell. Bickle? It's got to be Bickle, right? It's not Bichell.

I would probably imagine. Just Shell. Marissa Sherwood, Elizabeth Nedrow, James Spicer, Caitlin McCarthy, Victor and Jennifer Quinones, Miranda Pacheco, Dave True, Juan Merguia, Elizabeth LeBlanc, Elizabeth Fiorello, Kevin Stidworthy, Alice Schaefer, Kristen Campbell, Shannon with no last name, Bobby Jennings, Sue Stiebel, Josh Hamiltonbel. Stiebel, probably. Josh Hamilton. Soggy Bottom.

Soaps. Jake Atkinson. Cindy McGee. A. Swanson. Susan LeFevre. LeFevre. Laura Herrick. LeFevre.

Herrick. Herrick. Chloe Cody. S. Dierberg. Karen. Oh, boy. Hamlet. Aaron Snyder.

Marie O'Brien. Tim. Nope, that's Tina, Maran, Marin, Nicole Milton, Jessica Wolfe, Crystal Moore, Safdie with no last name, Rachel Sigourney, Kathleen Ettinger, Courtney Richmond, Tiffany with no last name, Kelsey Medlin, Ryan Baird, Midge and Millie's booksellers, Kirsten Chase, Stump Chunkman, Lauren Denae, Nicholas with no last name, Johnny Joned, Joned maybe, Emily Miller, Heather McAfee. What happened? Rachel. Who's Rachel? Rachel Hachel. McAfee. What happened? Hachel. Who's Hachel?

Rachel and Heather's friend, Hachel. Sean Carter, Elizabeth West, Mary with no last name, OMG Reptar, Justin Smith, Abigail Trigo. Jay-Z donated to us? That's great. Did I say Jay-Z? What? Where did I go?

Sean Carter donated to us. Oh, yes. Sean Carter, Jay-Z. Abigail Trigo. Trigo. Nicole Little-Taylor. Little. I think it's hyphenated.

Little-Taylor. Little-Taylor. Samantha Leach. David Stanford. Rebecca McIntosh. Allie Velasco. Vicky Camacho. Camacho.

Camacho and Velasco. Victor. Vicky Macho Camacho? Hell yeah. Michelle Schmitz, Rick Formica. He makes shit piles of money. Amanda Kaser, bucket of wriggling peckers. Remember those? I do.

Whole bucket of them. She's as useless as a bucket of wriggling peckers. Lance Ravella. Wriggling peckers. Griselda Green. Paul Adkins. Jake Bell. Corey Howard.

George B. Rihanna McNeil-Resser. Elizabeth with no last name. Robert Carter. Eric Young. Stephen Fallon. Chasey. Chassy.

What? Weimer? Chasey, probably. Matthew with no last name. Kaylee Allen. Sean Kelly. Marge. It's not Marge.

It's Marge. I don't know how to do that. M-A-R-G. How do they do that? Shin. Marge. It's not Marge. It's Marge. I don't know how to do that. M-A-R-G. How do they do that? Shin. Marge. Marge Shin? Marg.

Marg Shin? Okay. Maybe Marg, like a margarita. Are they doing this to try to get me to say Marg's? Got any Margs? I don't know. Maybe. Rashawn Richardson, Garrett Smith, David Goodrich, Catherine Snedeker, Darcy Ellis, Kate Shaw, Isaac Jermu, Maggie Henderson,

Christy Crowder, Pritchard M. Heer, Sparky Bigtime. That's funny. That's definitely BTK. Very funny. Yes. Jessica Villarreal. That's disgusting, but very funny. Jenna with no last name.

Heather Costas. Dottie. Scott Parker. Keegan LaChapelle Jenna with no last name. Heather Costas. Dottie. Scott Parker. Keegan LaChapelle. Quay Zox. Eddie Retch. Lexi Hub. Ian Barber.

Area Corkum. J-O. Hey, that's a good one. J-N-O. J period, O period. That's a person. Darcy Covergirl. Brian Horner.

Juggaload. That's gross. Kendall Yeagle. Darren McKibben. Courtney.ney hyde joey neal jonathan mckinney blake edwards hayley b melanie kirk daniel daniel daniel peña uh becky zick uh cezic so i don't know angelo santoro uh michael mntyre, Colton C. Slinsky, Emily Brewer, G. Meesey, Gavin Murray, Austin Wallace, Karen Moreno, Tanner Rose, Lauren Hansinger, Melinda White, J.R. Smith, probably not that one, Tommy Johnston, Rihanna Fritzler. Jay-Z and J.R. Smith.

Can you believe it? What a big week for us. Sheila with no last name, Kyle Bird. Rena Fritzler. Laymon. Laymon. Laymon Templeton. Christine Davis. Ellen Whitman.

Yep. Katie. Laymon. Syzimic. Syma Zach. Syma Zach. Syma Zach? Danielle Froheiser.

Froheiser. Maggie Cowan. Celeste. Celeste Rocha. It's an Italian lady. There you go. Who's a dev? Who's a dev with no last name?

Shonda Rutland, Daniel Sandomenico, KD Nicholas, Sarah Kay, Leah Strasdis, Stacey Frost, Cindy Abernathy, Chelsea Romeroero Maureen McLaughlin Joe Alvarez Keith Dilley Ty with no last name Tyler Weingard Judy Stinson Perry Buck

Diane Pepper Jonathan Martinez Shatya Jones Melissa with no last name Rachel Collins Carl with no last name Laura Irvine Mark with no last name. Rachel Collins. Tron Gard. Carl with no last name. Laura Irvine. Mark with no last name.

Sean Costello. Pocket Spaghetti. 7-10. Gross. Ian Crowell. Oh, that's Italian people with spaghetti in their pockets. Emily Johnson. Got it.

Monica Santiago. Val Birch. I got Kevin Tappy in my front pocket right now. Victor Hernandez. Lisa Bingaman. Gertrude Gloria. diego centeno missy t-1-2-1-7 that's a employee name or something meredith telly uh tilly they're punching missy t-1-2-1-7 meredith tilly kayla henson uh cosmo skywalker angela kinley and amanda garros

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