Crime in Sports - #396 - A Nice Bum - "Prince" Hal Chase - Part 2

Episode Date: February 20, 2024

This week, we finish this tale of old timey craziness! We catch up with Hal, as he is being kicked out of baseball. He then plays a huge part in helping to rig the World Series, while being banned from every baseball league in North America. His life quickly tumbles downhill, with drunken escapades, sad stories, and acts of being a terrible father, and all around liar! Will he make the Hall of Fame?? Get kicked out of every baseball league that exists, be called a pathetic wretch, as you peek at a baseball game, through slats of a fence, and be found wandering the streets, not knowing who you are with "Prince" Hal Chase!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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old prince hal chase is who we're talking about we left off old Prince Hal Chase, as we were talking about. We left off with him in 1919, where he was just signed by the New York Giants at the time, the pre-San Francisco Giants. And at the same time, they hired McGraw as manager and got Christy Matthewson there to be a coach. And both of those guys had testified against him like a month earlier in against prince hal chase in a game fixing thing so now they're on the same team and also apparently when he got to the giants he immediately tried to bribe three other players to throw games as soon as he got there so you can tell this is going to go very well for him, obviously. It's already going great. And 1919, as we talked about, is the, that's the

pinnacle year of dirty game-throwing shit, because that's the Black Sox scandal, that's baseball's big black eye. That's the reason Pete Rose still isn't in the Hall of Fame, is because they're still stinging over 1919. It was only 105

years ago, so that's, you know. So the 1919 Giants, 87-53, which is good for second in the National League, which got you absolutely nothing back then. Nothing. Nothing at all back then that would get you. A few more wins gets you the World Series, but nothing where you're at. Not even a ticket to the World Series, probably. No.

Nothing. Wasn't on TV or anything back then. There was no TV. So after McGraw, the manager, found out about the actions of two of the players, Zimmerman and Chase, that he had bribed to throw games, Hal. They suspended Zimmerman, but Chase did not get suspended for some reason. He remained with the Giants for the rest of the season, and there was tons of rumors and speculation about Hal and this Chase guy working together to throw games or fix the lines and shit like that. So the following month, Chase's connections in the gambling world here, Hal, allowed him to profit big time because he bet on the fixed 1919 World Series. And he knew where the fix was in because he's in gambling circle so right he got to make a profit here uh and he somebody said uh one of the gangsters here one of the bookies testified later on in court under oath that hal chase won

forty thousand dollars in bets against the White Sox. $40,000 in 1919. Oh, my. Think about how much fucking money that is back then. I'm going to look up right now exactly what that is because I need to know inflation. It's got to be 1.2, right? It's got to be more than that. You think so?

Yeah, because if you go to 1960, the money is about 10 times. If you add a million dollars, it's $10 million. 1919 is a whole- That's over 40 years. Yeah. So here we go. I got the site up here, inflation calculator. We're going 1919, and we're going $40,000.

Come on. There we go. This fucking site sucks enter forty thousand dollars okay forty thousand dollars seven hundred now seven hundred four thousand five hundred thirteen dollars and twenty nine cents in one bet and one and bets on the world in one day yeah and that that that was a lot back then. I mean. Tax free. You made like $1,000 a year back then in working. So he really did a lot there. He did well.

So McGraw ends up pulling Chase from the lineup. And the club announced that the first baseman is indefinitely suspended. Really? By both leagues. They found out. American and National League suspended him. But he played until September, so that's like the whole season pretty much,

which is funny. And his suspension was finalized the following year by Kennesaw Mountain Landis, the guy who was put in charge of baseball. And he ended up saying that, yeah, he was suspended. So how that year he hit 284, I mean, not too shabby, honestly. Pretty good year for him, especially at 36 years old at this point.

Not bad. Yeah. And 36 back then is a way different 36 than 36 now. Oh, boy. Yeah. And some of these guys are in the peak of their athleticism at 36 now. Back then, 36 was like, whew. Oh, boy.

People looked half dead when they were 28 back then. Yeah, 36. You're starting to keep an eye on your cholesterol now will kill you at 36. They were sunbaked. It's already over. Yeah, they spent every day out in the sun, either on some farm when they were a kid or then all the day games. They were always outside. People looked terrible back then.

36 in 1920? You're looking at plots. oh man which which one you like best people are calling you hey hey old man when you walk down the street you're still alive yeah jesus look at you at 36 now people it's the people are fucking yeah in great shape yeah so they talk about by the way um that's going to be his whole career because he's suspended indefinitely indefinitely he's done well yeah he had bad timing to get caught doing this shit in the same year as the black sock scandal yeah that was bad because they got they brought in the kennessee mountain landis and he fucking did the whole basically if you get caught even breathing at the hint of you being a gambler you're just done

because he was trying to restore baseball's you know but who gives a shit he made baseball he made 40 grand he can retire anyway yeah he made way he made you know probably eight seasons worth of salary in one fucking world series so that's good so they talk about his defense and he was considered one of the best fielders in the game not just at first base but they said he could have fielded any position they talked to him just it didn't even matter um bill james quoted a poem here who's the bill james does the big baseball abstract book every year um and it says quote sometimes a raw recruit in the spring is not just is not a pitching find he has not walter johnson's wing nor maddie's wondrous mind he does not act like harold chase

upon the fielding job but you may find in such case he hits like tyrus cobb so that was his thing so he was the guy that he mentioned as the best fielder basically in this poem at the time but um they also talk about there's a book called the black prince of baseball it's a book on hal chase sure the black prince of baseball and he's very white so it's not an it's literally that he's ethnic thing no he's just like this specter that hangs over every team that he's on like a cloud everything he does is below board and it's all just fucking scheming and scammy so they talked about his defensive abilities and they talk about all of his spectacular plays he made but the problem was it seems like he could make a spectacular play but he was also a fuck-up because in 10 seasons he made 402 errors

which is terrible. He was not a fuck-up. Those are absolutely on purpose. Those are. Gotta be. That's the other thing, yeah. Yeah. And so, because he can make these spectacular plays.

They said on a bunt, he could come in and wheel and throw to any base so fucking well. He's such a good fielder. Yeah. His career fielding average is only 980, which is four points below the average for the period so we don't know how many how much of this is intentional because at first base it's very easy to there's a ball in the dirt and you don't scoop it quite right and there it goes and you look fine but it's even that'll be an error on the shortstop as a matter of fact yeah but at the same time that guy's safe now and a run scored so right first base is a really good position to control a lot

because you have a lot of chances for put outs so um it's suggested now they said bill james in a recent work suggested that chase was only a c minus to grade defensive player at first base they said that he was not wonderful um he and the war which is the wins above replacement he cost his team 65 runs versus an average first baseman so yeah that's that's a guy that's fucking on the dole though so it's impossible to know whether he was great and whether shit or whether half the time he was hung over and was like oh christ the ball's coming at me i don't know i guess that lends to the question james what would you rather be a hall of famer or rich oh rich yeah yeah fuck it fuck it i'll take the errors and and the gambling one yeah when i was you know 21 i would have said a hall of famer obviously you want this legend now i'm like i don't fucking care about

that that's not gonna comfort me in my old age no because now we're over 40 we're worried about actually surviving and like having you know a pot to piss in and not eating cat food when we're 75 so now i'm like fuck you fuck ernie banks keep your adulation and stick it right up your ass unless there's a dollar behind it fuck you no thank you yeah i'd rather be pete rose you no thank you yeah i'd rather be pete rose yeah he's still making money so hell chip plus i mean pete rose can he always has i'm the all-time hits leader so you know that's pretty what are you gonna do yeah obviously i belong there this is silly yeah i'm pretty goddamn good yeah a little bit so uh on february 28th 1920 there is in the San Francisco Bulletin newspaper, Hal Chase is reported on way home.

Said he and Zimmerman missing when Giants board train on way to Texas. So that was when they both got shit canned out of there. And they said that he's reportedly on his way to California to fill a motion picture contract. What? Oh, yeah. way to california to fill a motion picture contract what oh yeah he signed a fucking contract to appear in a movie and he does march 4th 1920 hal chase jumps the giants for movie job that's the headline he didn't jump the giants he got fucking thrown off the giants yeah. Yeah. But the news, what the hell? Scimitar? S-C-I-M-I-T-A-R. That's the title of this newspaper.

I don't know what that is. Fucking that word. March 4th, 1920. And it says that Hal Chase, once prince of first baseman, has turned his back on baseball. He's going into the movies. Okay. He's been thrown out indefinitely from baseball he didn't turn his back wow they turned their back on him i didn't realize players had publicists way back then but he fucking that's pretty impressive they clearly do they had to have while the advanced squad of the new york giants got

underway here for san antonio where they enter spring training. Chase was speeding westward toward Los Angeles to take up the silent drama. This is still silent movies. Friends of the Great First Basement said today that it is highly improbable that he can be lured back to the diamond. He's so happy with movies, you're never going to get him back. Indefinitely suspended, by the way. Jesus.

He's reported to have received a contract calling for more salary than he received last year but he failed to return it to the giants and nothing has been heard from him personally at giants headquarters again not true they didn't offer him a contract he left before the season was over because he was kicked out coupled with chase's unexpected movie came the announcement that heine zimmerman has returned his unsigned contract to the Giants club. Heine was not among the players here because he was the other guy that got shit cam, but they didn't know that the newspapers was all private. So the members of the Giants who made the advanced squad leaving New York were joined in route by other players

and still others will go on to San Antonio from their homes. Wow. So, yeah, he's going to be in movies. March 26, 1920, there's another article. The Cody Cowboy is the name of this newspaper. Oh. Yeah, this is when every city had 30 daily newspapers. It says, Hal Chase about to quit baseball game, anxious to become established in some other businesses. Wow.

Yeah. And it says, peerless Hal Chase has probably played his last game of baseball, recognizing the near approach of the inevitable end of a long and sensational career. He's planning to retire from the national pastime before the opening of another season and may announce his voluntary passing at any time now. Voluntary passing? That sounds like he's going to either shit something or kill himself. Yeah, or suicide. Yeah, one of the two.

Or take a bunch of pills and fucking pass out on a daybed like a Victorian woman. I don't know what's going on. There's no question of failure to negotiate a satisfactory contract with the Giants involved in Chase's determination to quit the Diamond. He simply realizes that he's rapidly nearing the end of his baseball rope and is anxious to become established in some other profession while he's still a comparatively young man. He has several promising propositions under consideration. He got kicked out of B.S. No Choice. He has zero propositions for baseball because he's not allowed.

No. To put it in another way, Hal needs a job now because he's not allowed to play baseball anymore. That would be the better way to put it. Hal's looking for work. Anybody? Anybody got anything for him? So they said Chase, barring one brief adventure with the outlaw of Federal League, or the outlaw california state league they talk about that and everything else they talk about how he's had he's had some problems but they also said that he's more bitterly maligned uh somebody else's than this slim still

boyish and thoroughly likable californian so this is a hardcore fluff piece on a guy who just got suspended for gambling his entire career on baseball. For cheating constantly. For literally cheating. Now, and the thing about it you need to keep in mind is, based on this article right below it, or this ad right below it, I should say, do not get careless with your blood supply. You don't want to do that. You'll end up like Hal. Slinging around willy-nilly.

No, it says impurities invite disease you know they do they do yeah you should pay particular heed to any indication that your blood supply is becoming sluggish blood supply just keep an eye on how quickly your blood's moving around your body because you can really monitor that easily in 1920. If it slows down, you won't know. What the fuck? Or that there is a lessening in its strong and vital force. Every once in a while, open up an artery. Make sure it's still squirting a good distance.

If you're not getting like three feet of spray, you probably got a problem. You're slowed down. Yeah, you keep track of your kids with a notch on the door frame. Yeah. Do the same with your kitchen wall. That's how you do it. Blood's moving today. March 26th, blood moving.

Okay. See how far it sprays. Wow. Put a little mark. Holy shit. Wipe the blood off, mark it with permanent marker. It's wonderful. Then he goes a little Hitler here, this ad.

Mark it with permanent marker. It's wonderful. Then he goes a little Hitler here, this ad. By keeping your blood purified, your system more easily wards off disease that is ever present, waiting to attack whenever there's an opening. A few bottles of SSS, the great vegetable blood medicine. Vegetable blood. blood medicine what vegetable blood it's either blood from vegetables which i've never heard of or you need more vegetables in your blood which also doesn't seem god i love how they knew nothing about your body back then at all it's that it's fascinating man we all these people claim to know so much about our bodies they knew nothing we only know in the past hundred years we barely got

any of this we don't know shit we know more than any the past hundred years, we barely got any of this. We don't know shit. We know more than any doctor did back then, and we're idiots. Me and you. We'd still know nothing. We're morons. We know nothing. If we told doctors some of the shit we know back then, they'd go, oh, my God, this is amazing. Oh, Jesus.

So this vegetable blood medicine, blood vegetables, I like that better, will revitalize your blood and give you new strength and a healthy, vigorous vitality. Make your dick hard, too, is what that sounds like. Everyone needs to know, everyone needs it just now, it's hard to read the old article, the old ad, to keep the system in perfect condition. Go to your drugstore and get a bottle today. And if you need any medical advice, you can obtain it without cost by writing to medical director Swift Specific Company in some laboratory in Atlanta. Swift Company? They're just giving medical advice through the mail? Yeah. You write us, and then we'll have somebody write you back about it don't worry about it and

this is like six weeks and this is taking forever through the mail through the mail in 1920 yeah that's a good point if somebody's really fucked up they're gonna die by the time they get an answer back anyway so it's fine it's 12 weeks later like do i take the vegetable blood or not oh my god so june 9th 1920 this is from the evening star chase and schneider deny implication in mcgee case is the headline here hal chase in the statement issued here said there was quote absolutely no truth in the statement of lee mcgee made on the witness stand in Cincinnati that McGee and Chase in July 1918 bet $500 on the Cincinnati Baseball Club to win from Boston. That seems right in character with Chase. Sure does.

Yeah. Chase, who is playing now, he's, I guess, currently at some point signed on with the San Jose Club of the California Mission League. So now he's playing that league. He said, I was exonerated of all charges of betting by the National Commission after it made a full investigation. I do not know what McGee did at the time of the game he mentioned, but I do know that I did not place any bets. Really?

So there's that. Absolutely. Bullshit. Now, Schneider, on the other hand, Pete Schneider, he said he denies that he was implicated with Lee McGee and Hal Chaston in a plan to have Boston defeat Cincinnati while he was a member of the Reds. He said prior to the game in question, Sherwood McGee told him that he had better be careful as McGee understood that some of the Cincinnati players were betting on Boston. Schneider said that he said, quote, if that's so, I won't work today. So that's how it went. And McGee took the stand in a rebuttal against the charges of dishonest baseball and made a reply to the suit.

I guess he was somebody was suing Chicago. I guess somebody was suing Chicago. Oh, he was suing the Chicago Cubs because of his unconditional release at the beginning of the season and said that he and Hal Chase had bet $500 on the Cincinnati club to win the first game of a doubleheader. So McGee said it happened. Schneider said it didn't. Either way, everybody says Hal Chase was involved. That's the problem here. He's the linchpin to everything always.

Whether one guy did it and the other didn't or vice versa, Hal Chase was in the middle of it and certainly did. If there was a conspiracy of betting, Hal Chase was involved. Yeah. Another guy, John Heidler, who's president of the National League, and Bill Veck. Wow. We know about the Vecks.

There's a whole documentary on them. The Disco Demolition Night and all that shit. Yeah, that's Bill Veck. So they said that he was the president of the Chicago National League Club at the time, as they put it, the Cubs. Heidler testified that McGee made a confession to him and Veck on February 10, 1920, saying that McGee wanted to make a clean breast of the whole thing. It's a weird way to put it. And to set himself back into the game.

McGee said in his confession, Heidler testified, he said that Chase had forced money on him and tempted him to gamble on the game. Sounds like he offered something that he could have said no to. Yeah. So he wants it off of his chest? Is that what he means? I think so. Clean breast? Yeah. Clean slate and off his chest and he mixed those two up and got clean breast.

Let's get a nice clean titty everybody. Ready for a baby to suckle on. Really clean. What do you put in your mouth? You know what I mean? Get all the glitter off of it. Seriously.

I mean, you don't want that. So July 9th, 1920, Hal Chase signs to play first base for Porterville team. Now, Porterville is a small town in Northern California. He's signed to play first base with Porterville against some other team,

uh, on the local lot Sunday afternoon. Oh, Jesus Christ. That's, that's a far fall. Um, yeah,

the news that chase and McHenry will enforce will enforce the local club. It is said will greatly encourage fans who should turn out in large numbers with chances bright for a victory. Yeah. So now in August of that year, who should turn out in large numbers with chances bright for a victory. So now in August of that year, he's now with just a Porterville, some smaller minor league. Dick and all Sam Lott style. Yeah.

Well, a gambling scandal erupts in the Pacific Coast League, and Hal Chase is not only kicked out of baseball in the PCL, he is banned from all PCL parks as well he's not even allowed to watch a game anymore from these parks this man loves do you how long have they been doing over unders and and uh you know i mean all that shit forever how long the national anthem's gonna be how long has there been sport. Why do you think sports exist? Right. That's what this guy was doing, right? I mean, yeah.

Absolutely. Was he doing that far in? Yeah. He was doing, I mean, he's throwing. Parleys and shit? I don't know if they were doing that in baseball, if they got that specific about it, if it was just win-loss. I'm sure there's point spreads or run spreads or whatever the fuck it works. But, yeah, I assume gambling was different 100 years ago.

But, I mean, the only reason it exists is to gamble on. That's literally how it lasted through the times when it wasn't that lucrative before TV deals and all that kind of shit. That's how it lasted. It's been a gambler thing forever. If you don't know when Crystal Pepsi was discontinued, what was in Al Capone's vault,

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This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am.

I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that? I i have crystal ball in my head it's an all-new season it's streaming you can say anything judy justice only on freebie do you think if and i'm not talking about making it illegal or legal. If for some reason there was some alien that could control the planet, okay, and made it so no one could gamble on football anymore, like literally not even like me and you, we wouldn't even, our brains wouldn't be able to put it together to gamble on football.

How long do you think football would be on television? Oh, God, Jesus. It wouldn't last through the next season i want to i want to jadedly say that there's purists and people that love it enough that they those 12 people would not be enough to fucking do 12 people in each market isn't doing it plus fantasy too i'm saying throw all that that's that's what football is it does not exist for anything else right and the nfl isn't there no sports are going to stop what what is happening now because they are making the actual entities are making millions oh yeah they're partnering with them now they're letting them name stadiums after

them and shit yeah they don't yeah now they're just all in on that disgusting amounts of money instead of trying to keep gambling away from football they made it so let's have the super bowl in vegas and have our top sponsors be gambling things great i'm not making i don't give a fuck either way i don't care do whatever you're gonna do but shit that's vice i do not enjoy what they're doing uh no i'm uh co-signing on all of it and not telling people look there you have family members that cannot control themselves with this that's the problem a problem yes like i yes for long times there's been degenerate fucking gamblers and getting their legs broken by guys and all this type of shit these this is different they will take your

fucking house now right that's That's different. Right. A mobster. Right. They're not coming for your house. They want your VIG every week. Yeah. So, yeah, they might rough you up a little bit, break your arm, but not if you need both arms for work because they want your fucking VIG every week. They'll figure out a way to make so you can owe them principal forever.

If you build widgets with your hands, they'll break your feet. Yeah. They hope that you can't pay them back and you can only pay the VIG. That way they can make that forever off of you. Forever. They're a credit card company. Yes. You'll actually lose your fucking house now.

It's a different thing. And there's got to be. There's going to be murders. There's going to be murders. I mean, this is, like I said, don't give a shit. No. You're fucking, I don't care. This is your problem, not mine said, don't give a shit. No. You're fucking, I don't care.

This is your problem, not mine. I didn't start this. I'm not the type to litigate people's vices and legislate them. I don't fucking care. Gambling, prostitution, you know, you can regulate it if it's legal. It's going to ruin lives. But this is a fucking totally different thing. It is ruining fucking lives. Real time.

Yeah. Real time. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of people, we talk about this all the time, but there's a lot of people that bitch and bitch and bitch, and I want to see their fucking bank statements. How much do you gamble, you fat motherfucker? How much do you gamble as you complain about shit from your $80,000 truck, you fucking

asshole, and talk about how blue collar you are driving a car that costs more than any mercedes and you're sitting there ah these fucking people shut the fuck up these people with their expensive college educations your truck costs more than two years at fucking yale you moron what the fuck are you talking about shut up it is unbelievable yeah you've made your main investment in your life your truck i can't believe how much money people have i'm i'm blown away how well people are doing because i'm i'd love to know how you did it well i just want to see yeah and if you're bitching yeah you're having a genuine tough time that's shit that's horrible fucking horrific but when people bitch and they're also

gambling on the nfl every week that's a problem that pisses me off hey you know what you can cut out i got an idea don't show me your your 12-way parlay if you're complaining about gas prices yes and it used to be that guy you go well stop fucking gambling because you knew he was a degenerate and he had to go down to the bar to play spets but now he does it on his phone and what the fuck god Right on the phone. Goddamn shit. Shut up. Shut up about that. So anyway, he's banned from all the parks in the PCL for allegedly attempting to bribe a Salt Lake City pitcher named Spider Baum prior to the game they were playing. He tried to bribe him.

That day he was also banned by the Mission League where he had played before. So he's just a fucking mess it's over yeah he can't he can't even play in small leagues now so they said that the this is the salt lake tribune says scandal rocks our league uh maggart released borton suspended chase bard those are the players here salt lake outfielder under suspicion for accepting three hundred dollars from vernon player jesus christ so everybody was approached by hal chase Those are the players here. Salt Lake outfielder under suspicion for accepting $300 from Vernon player. Jesus Christ. So everybody was approached by Hal Chase, though.

He's the guy who started everything, which is really fucking funny, I think. He's always in the middle of it. If he's around, you might as well just check and see. Trying to get bribed today? Start looking through people's pockets. I bet they got extra cash. The Maggart guy's name is Harley Maggart. Fascinating.

He's the outfielder for Salt Lake City who was released. Then Babe Borton, the first baseman of Vernon, was also indefinitely suspended as well. Harley Maggart. And Hal Chase is just barred from everything. And they said that he came to him with a proposition to make some easy money, Chase told Baum, the president said, and that he had some friends who were willing to bet large sums of money on the games, provided they had the edge. That's what he told them.

And the guy indignantly refused the pitcher. He would not do it, and he told on him. So they said immediately after this offer was made, Borton left the hotel at Los Angeles with Maggart and paid him at some Los Angeles bank the sum of $300, that's the other people here, which Maggart admitted to receiving but which he claimed was for

a gambling debt incurred the year before. Chase, who's been playing every Sunday with the San Jose team of the California Mission League, was barred tonight from further participation in the circus contest and must forfeit whatever interest he may have in the San Jose

club. So if they gave him a piece of the club to play there, he can't have that anymore either. They said that he, because the directors thought he was allowed to come to the league to begin with because they thought that he was repentant and felt it would be unfair to punish him for sins committed outside of the league. Sure, sure.

So whatever happened there is not my, you know, we're not going to mind our business over here. They said this latest episode is enough, however. So we're done with him now. Done with Hal. But they're making him forfeit it, not sell it, not gamble it. No, no, no. Yeah. You can gamble it. no yeah you can get it

in credit hey hal let's double or nothing on sunday's game what do you say hal either you own part of two teams or you got nothing what do you say so the president mccarthy of the league issued this statement i have this day notified i want to put like an echo over this, notified all clubs of the Pacific Coast League that admission to our parks shall hereafter be refused, Hal Chase. If reports are true, Chase has done more to discredit baseball than any single individual. It was hoped that his activities would be ended

with the elimination from the major leagues and would not extend further. Last week, however, at Los Angeles, Chase, so it has been reported to me, approached pitcher Charles A. Baum of the Salt Lake Club with a proposition to make some easy money. I have this in a signed statement from Baum. Chase went on to explain that he has had some friends who are willing to bet on these games if they knew the outcome. Chase will hereafter not be

permitted in any park in our league. It is unfortunate that no further punishment can be imposed. We can't reach him now. Certainly there is no punishment too severe, but perhaps the contempt of men and women who love baseball and who believe in a clean sport will prove sufficient penalty.

Nothing too severe? We could kill him if we want. That's what I mean. Yeah. Nothing is too severe. I wish we could kill him, but they won't allow it. So the only thing I'm mad about is I have no recourse on him now because I kicked him out. That's what the guy said.

I wish we could kill him. That would be great. So that is fucking hilarious. I said some easy money. Chase is gone. They said, hell, Chase could not be located, is what the newspaper said. He did not attend a game between Vernon and Sacramento today, although he has attended several Coast games here recently. Friends of Chase said he has left Los Angeles for San Jose.

here recently, friends of Chase said he has left Los Angeles for San Jose. So he was living in L.A. at the time, and he called the Los Angeles examiner that night and denied all the allegations against him. He blamed his, quote, enemies in baseball. They're after me. Yes, my enemies. My enemies are trying to take me down. Don't you understand it?

There's nothing better than a my enemies excuse. Yeah. It's my enemies in baseball is fucking hilarious way to go. Oh, okay. It's not just the same thing you've been doing all the time for 20 years. Yeah. Yeah. This is totally different now.

And he was banned in two other California leagues when efforts were made to sign him. The league immediately banned him. So he's not allowed to play anywhere, basically. Nobody wants him. Nobody wants him. Well, it puts your whole shit in, it throws your all integrity right out the window and questions everything, every play that's made, especially if he's involved.

And who wants to go watch a game that might be fucking fixed? I mean, it's different if you watch wrestling and you know it's fixed. That's a different story. You're not like, oh, they screwed my man over. You know it's part of the story. Whereas in baseball, you're like, what the fuck? You want to see an honest thing here.

Every other goddamn sport. Another one that's high up in the league here says, if reports are true, Chase has done more to discredit baseball than any other single individual well a team through the world series the last year so let's be fucking let's calm down a little bit more than any individual yeah many individual it was hoped that his activities would be ended with his elimination from there but he's not permitted in any park and uh there you go so chase was first linked to the whole black sock scandal thinking of speaking of him, in testimony by Rube Benton on September 23, 1920.

He charged Chase and Zimmerman tried to bribe him $800 to throw a game against the Cubs the year before. So they're really – then Bill Burns is the guy who – one of the series fixers. He said that Chase won over $40,000 betting on the series because the bets were through him, so he knows it for a fact. And that is fucking amazing. I love it. This is hilarious. I love this guy. He's just.

He's a lot. Well, it's like he doesn't even, he just keeps doing it. He doesn't, yeah. At least you. Penalty means learn your lesson and stop. Yeah. You know what he's doing, at least, though. You always know what he's doing. So someone like that, even if they're all bad, you know that they're bad, at least.

So you go, oh, that guy's a scumbag. Okay. And treat him accordingly. He's just the worst. We get it. Yeah. So October 23rd, 1920, he is indicted. Oh.

Yep. A Chicago grand jury for complicity in fixing baseball games. He's accused of being one of the instigators of, quote, game selling. He had been previously, obviously, expelled from every park in the fucking league and in the country and all that. 13 indicted in the big league ball scandal here. And this is also part for show because they're trying to they're trying to anybody who's had a whisper of it they're trying to absolutely just grill them so the public goes oh baseball's not messing around with those people they must be serious this is this is this game

matters to america at this point and uh it is the game in america yeah and if their integrity is fucked and they're they just had a world series be thrown then oh man they better yeah they better take a run at anybody that's gambling and this is right about is a terrible time because it's right on the cusp of a whole new era of baseball yeah this is babe ruth just went to the yankees Yankee Stadium is going to be built in 1923. And I'm just using that as an example of that was a different era of baseball. Whole runs came in. It became more exciting to the public anyway and all that kind of shit. So it's a big deal here. So indictments, though, being handed down, all these indictments, indictments against 10 of the men named today previously had been voted but were re-voted to

overcome legal technicalities while the other three abatel hal chase and william burns had only been unofficially mentioned in connection with the investigation so according to testimony at least several hundred thousand dollars was bet and won in the World Series. Chase was the first man to suggest throwing the series. So Chase didn't even think about that. Think about that. He wasn't even on the fucking team, and he was the guy helping throw the World Series. He didn't even play for either of the teams.

And he still figured out how to get to them all. Yeah. Well, it was his idea, I guess, or part of his idea. He called in others to help him harry long a chicagoan told the jury he alone placed twenty thousand dollars in bets on cincinnati for sport sullivan of boston and testimony has been received concerning many other large bets it was said besides chase attell and burns today's indictments covered two alleged gamblers, Sullivan, a man known to the jury only as Brown. Mysterious.

Mr. Brown. Mr. Brown. And the eight players owned by the Chicago American League Club. Eight men out. Those eight. So it's them, a couple gamblers, and our guy. That's who's involved in this. Uh-oh.

What a fucking idiot. Officials from the state's attorney's office revealed sufficient of the jury proceedings to show the testimony has been given that Chase who was expelled from the major league and barred from league parks in the west was one of the chief instigators of the game selling

now November 23rd 1920 obviously he's had a long summer this is a sure has Hal Chase's wife says i've had enough now is she she would enjoy to split and part ways that's it this is his second wife mind you okay by the way we'll hear again from his first wife the alleged baby burner we'll hear we'll hear more from her coming up soon here she comes back around she'd come back with a recipe yeah a, a recipe for fucking sautéed fucking broiled baby.

Seven herbs and spices. Oh, my God. Speaking of that, by the way, we had a Patreon episode recently that was the old-timey crimes that we did, which are hilarious. And we were laughing about somebody who was run over by a train or some shit on a baby. Something happened to somebody in 1891. We got a message saying, I am done with you guys. I'm canceling my Patreon. I was disgusted to hear you guys laugh about that happening to a baby.

That baby would have been, even if it lived the longest life, it would still have been dead for 30 years at this point. Who fucking cares? The death was funny. It's the idea. I think it was, was it the wagon wheel? I don't remember what it was. It doesn't matter. They weren't specific.

It's ridiculous that it was possible to die that way. That's crazy. And everyone that died in 1891, no one that ever has even met them is still alive. It can hurt nobody to laugh at this shit. Everybody's long dead. Relax. Holy crap. You's long dead. Relax. Holy crap. You're going to hurt yourself.

Jesus. So Mrs. Hal Chase here, Anna M. Chase, is entering a suit for divorce from Hal. Probably saying this is completely embarrassing is what she's probably saying. Yeah. What a complete disgrace. You weren't even on the team. You weren't even on the team. You weren't even on that team. Man, you're a fuck-up.

So in her petition, states they were married May 27, 1913, she charges Chase with, these are her reasons for divorce, because you had to have reasons back then for divorce. Yeah. Anybody did. You couldn't just be like,

I don't like that person anymore. I mean, you still have to have one, right, when you fill out your divorce paperwork? You can just say irreconcilable differences now. Which that's the problem we don't like each other easy but back then it was yeah the differences it had to be abuse abandonment cheating there had to be some some reason for it back then so she charges him with associating with other women which i mean obviously i'm sure in all of his dealings, there's ladies around.

Associating? Associating. With spending money in gambling and other shit. So just pissing money away. Sure. She says she left him several times, but always returned to him on his promise to do better. Yeah. I'll do better, baby.

I promise. She said since last March, he has given her a grand total of $1. That's not good. So the divorce was granted January 26, 1921. Now, April 1921, the district attorney for the Cook County prosecution sent warrants to arrest all the indicted ballplayers and gamblers. Chase was picked up leaving a theater in San Jose on April 25th. He's arrested. Wow.

Yep. Wanted in connection with Chicago baseball scandal is the big newspaper headline. And, yeah, he's just as involved as anybody else. Does it say what theater it was? It does not in San Jose. No, it just said he was arrested by local officers on a warrant as he left the theater. That's all they said. Unfortunately, the theater didn't get a plug.

That's a shame. I know why you're asking that, too, because the improv is an old theater out there. Yeah, it's a beautiful, old, old, old place. It might be that, or it's someplace they knocked down 80 years ago. Or it's a place right next door to it. Yeah. Who knows? So California, though, refuses to allow extradition to Illinois because of an incorrectly issued arrest warrant.

So Chase never stands trial. What? He never stands trial. what he never stands trial that's why you don't hear about hal chase and the trials and all that because cook county didn't dot their i's and cross their t's on fucking paperwork and california refused to to extradite him based on they didn't fix because you can fix paperwork right apparently not or do you only get one chart one try one shot that's it One shot. You misspelled that. See, now he's free. Be careful. So all of the accused players, though, were acquitted on August 2nd, 1921,

if we remember from our bonus episode on that. The baseball commissioner, Kennesaw Mountain Landis, later declared that any players who had been involved in throwing games would be banned from baseball, which included Chase. But he never formally ruled on Chase. He was just still under his previous indefinite suspension. He doesn't have to rule on him because he's not allowed to play anyway. That's the thing.

So that's how it goes. August 10th, 1921, there's an article that says, quote, Hal Chase seen as forlorn man. Oh, he's forlorn. Players catch him peeping through fence as Pacific Coast leaguers play. Oh, that's so sad. Is it really though? Is it just funny?

It's the funniest, saddest thing ever. There's like a bunch of eight year olds trying to, they're like, dude, let us get our turn, grandpa. And he's like, you shut the fuck up. I got money on this. Is he looking through like the slat, like the slim, or is he looking through the knot? Yeah, I picture a knot hole. There's a knot hole. He popped a knot hole in it.

There's like 12 eight-year-olds and Chan Hal. Yeah, trying to watch the game. Yeah, and they're like, come on, mister, move. You've got to give us our turn. And they all take turns at the Nod Hall. That is so fucking sad. So sad. That is the saddest shit ever.

Oh, my God. That is shit ever. Oh, my God. They say, as graphic comparison of the Hal Chase of today and the Hal Chase who performed so brilliantly on the diamonds of the big leagues not so many years ago is found. What is that? It's this old newspaper. It's too light. It's something in the following article by Thomas S. Rice, which recently appeared in The Washington Times. Thomas S. Rice, which recently appeared in The Washington Times, quote, that the mills of the gods may grind rapidly as well as grind exceedingly fine, as illustrated by a story told by George A. Putnam, business manager of the San Francisco Baseball Club of the Pacific Coast League.

Putnam ran across the trail of the Brooklyn Superbas in St. Louis recently when he was on a swing through the major leagues to buy and sell players. That doesn't sound good. His club was the one which summarily released pitcher Tom Seaton and Casey Smith last year on charges of throwing games. And in connection with that, he told this anecdote. Outside of San Francisco in the small towns is the Mission League, composed of semi-pro clubs containing many old professional ball players who turn an honest penny on the side in the sport now that they have passed from the big show and are regularly engaged in other occupations. Among the towns in the Mission League is San Jose, and

San Jose is a semi-pro park that would delight Ring Lardner. I don't know who the fuck that is. Far out in center is an ambitious scoreboard, liberally decorated with the advertising sign of the town's leading hardware merchant

and a strong supporter of the team. About a month ago, San Jose was playing at home and a ball was hit to center. It was diligently pursued by two outfielders, both formerly inorganized baseball, one of them a major leaguer in his day. They chased the ball up to the scoreboard and tried to retrieve it before it

took a bad, a bad bound that carried out of the, out of the height of the umpire, but failed. As the two veterans whipped around the corner of the board, they surprised a man peeping at the game through the planking. He was seedy in apparel oh no he's all shabby had a beard of several days growth and a general air of utter forlornness he just it looks like a hobo back there peeking on the game they surprised the scumbag he had his dick in his hand he was whacking it through the planks and they caught him both outfielders were at first indifferent to the stranger but at a

second glance glance identified him the utterly forlorn stranger was hal chase who two years ago was a member of the new york giants at a salary that was probably beyond that which until war times was paid a united states senator it was the same Hal Chase who had been tried by the National League on the charge of throwing games here, the same Hal Chase who had been given another chance by the New York National League Club, the same Hal Chase who had been fired by the New York National League Club on charges which were never fully explained but were clearly understood to be based upon his alleged crookedness. It's the same Hal Chase who had left New York, returned to his home state of California,

and been barred from the ballparks of that state on the ground of being involved in betting transactions. It's the same Hal Chase who stands before the world bearing unrefuted charges of having crooked crooked crooked the game which brought him fame and fortune and which is an institution of which his country has been vastly proud should remain an outcast forever uh he would no more he would no more be uh no more than bearing part of the penalty he deserves if every man who had had a hand in the crooking of the national game should die in an outcast gutter despised by the Potter's Field men who bury him, it would be no more than they deserved. Die in gutters? They're wishing the worst on him. Not even be respected by the guys who bury bums in Potter's's field which is where you go when you have no

money and the city just needs a place to put you so they stick you out in the field right that even the people who dig the pauper's graves should even hold the slightest hint of reverence for you they should die in the gutter in the gutter there that would be no more than they deserved that he deserves jesus christ that is wild so where do you go when you can't go anywhere else you go well i mean he's watching peep shows already yeah no he's gonna end up in arizona of course is that right last chance outlaw central back then. I mean, it was barely a state. It was a state for like eight years or some shit.

Ten years. So he spent most of the 20s playing semi-pro ball in Arizona. Different teams. Nogales, Williams, Jerome. All over. All over. An outlaw team in Douglas, which also had Chick Gandil, Buck Weaver, and Lefty williams of the

black socks scandal fame so uh send him down to the fucking border yeah he's basically border towns is what it is and jerome up in the mountains and you know williams is way the fuck up there too that's a yeah that's a long way to travel out of the. Yeah, there's not great roads back then through those mountains. He was in Douglas in 1926 when the radio evangelist Amy Semple McPherson turned up there claiming to have been abducted by Mexican bandits. Whoa. That's how she – okay. She was an evangelistic religious lady. And like most people who outwardly fucking can't shut the fuck up about their religion she's full of shit that's the thing she's a big fat lie yeah people who quietly

observe their religion and go by the tenets of it right they usually are fine and honest people people who don't shut the fuck up about how holy they are you we know the end of that so yeah turns out this amy semple mcpherson and rather than being abducted by Mexican bandits of what she actually said, she had run off with her radio engineer. I was just going to say she ran off with a man. to throwing a game and later claimed that chase had contemplated blackmailing sister amy threatening to reveal that she had disappeared to have an abortion though no evidence exists to corroborate that story no paperwork or anything which i don't know if a 1921 back desert abortion had a fucking here's your chart yeah i don't i don't understand i don't know how much paperwork really was involved in those probably not a ton i would probably There probably wasn't a lot of paperwork involved with straight up and down ones.

You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. The ones that insurance covered, I don't think there was a lot of paperwork on them. Jesus Christ. A few months later, he tore both Achilles tendons in a car accident. Oh, fuck. We'll talk about that later. Then he went to Mexicoxico or in 1925 he made

made plans to organize a professional baseball league but american league president ban johnson got word of it and he pressured the mexican authorities to deport hal chase oh my god like it's just gonna be a big scam just deport him trust us yeah we know so uh yeah that's june 28th 1923 ban johnson urges mexicans to steer clear of hal chase which is hilarious that sounds like all mexican people yeah hey mexicans stay away from him how funny would it be ban johnson urges mexicans to steer clear of jimmy wisman that'd be such a weird thing to see in print wouldn't it why why do they have to stay away from that man stay away from him that's the indianapolis star with their hilarious headline and they say hal chase for many years

a star of the diamond an idol of baseball fans but now disgraced will be kicked out of mexico where he recently went seeking new fortunes kicked out Mexico. He recently went to scam people. Yeah, that's what's going on. Ban Johnson said he recently learned the chase had crossed the border with the idea of teaching baseball to the Mexicans. Okay. Like they were on Mars.

He has written a letter to the Mexican embassy urging them to take immediate steps to prevent the Mexicans from learning the Hal Chase brand of baseball. OK, it's understood the Johnson letter was accompanied by another similar communication from William M. Mooney, postmaster of the city of Washington and close friend of Ben Johnson. Senor Tellez replied to Ben Johnson yesterday, assuring the American League president that he that he and other officials in the Mexican government would do everything possible to keep all undesirable baseball players out of Mexico in order that the game may acquire a taint in its infancy there.

He said baseball is not under government control in Mexico, however. is not under government control in Mexico, however. While it will not be possible for orders to be issued arbitrarily that Hal Chase shall be dismissed from his position as head of the team at Nogales, I've taken steps through what seem to be proper channels to bring the matter to the attention of my government. So we'll just kick him out of the whole country. Right. We can't tell him what not to do, but we can tell him not to be here.

Certainly. Yeah, because he was recruited and hired by the Nogales Internationals to play first base and manage the club for 1923, which is a lot of opportunity to throw games. So he had played for Jerome before that and also Williams. So they say that he's negotiating with Mexico, with the president of Mexico, to become the commissioner of the new Mexican Baseball League. I wonder where the baseball diamond for that place, for the Jerome team was. Who the fuck knows? Yeah, I don't know where it could have been. Where would you fucking put, I guess it would be down at the bottom of the hill, right?

I was going to say it would have to be at the bottom of the hill or they'd have to really flatten something out. Oh boy, yeah, that's a, or you're hitting off the side of a cliff. Yeah, a big enough patch of land that's not hilly. It doesn't exist. It doesn't really exist in Jerome. It'd have to be down in the valley area of it there. So they said, Hal chased. Here's another article.

Hal chased to be Mexico's Landis, meaning the commissioner of baseball down there. Yep. He's going to start his league, and that's what it's all about. Said he went to Mexico. Now he's going to start his league, and that's what it's all about. He said he went to Mexico. Now he's going to run the league. He said it won't be but a year now, Hal said, when any baseball team, before annexing the title of world's champions, will have to beat our best team.

So in the course of a year, he'll have teams that can compete with any major league team. Give me nine months. The Mexicans are natural ball players and are developing a love for the game. Taylor Swift is soaring high. Her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans. She's broken billboard records and made Grammys history, not to mention becoming a billionaire in the process. But along the way, Taylor has had to wage war,

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and demonstrate to baseball fans of the United States that I was Dreyfus. I was the Dreyfus and not the Benedict Arnold of organized baseball. Oh, he's the other side. Would he be able to sue and say that they're not, say that they can't say they're world champions if they didn't play us? I don't think so. That's, you can say you're world champions of your league. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, what's the, what are you suing under the title of your league yeah yeah yeah i mean you what's the what are you suing under the title of your claiming you're the best in the world i can call myself the world champion of anything and no one can sue me for it you know what i mean they call me an asshole and call me a liar but they can't sue me really cleanest toes around i'm the world champion of cleaning toes. The world champion. So the Fresno Bee, April 6, 1925,

Hal chased a play in Frontier League that opens April 18th. So they're talking about El Paso, Fort, it's going to be, how many teams here is this? El Paso, Douglas, Fort Bayard, and Juarez. These teams were formed to be in this league. Border teams, yeah. Four of them. Yeah.

El Paso's protest against the playing of Hal Chase, banished major leaguer and Douglas manager, was overridden. So that's hilarious. Douglas refusing to enter the organization without him. Chase runs a saloon at Agua Prietaxico across the line from douglas is that right he runs a bar fucking border saloon oh my god across the border from douglas like yeah it is it's fucking miserable oh that is there's no there's no water there's nothing there that's bad he's got a bar there holy shit here so april 8th 1925 there it's again from el paso and they keep talking about he's the former yankee and now he's going to be doing this he's going to isn't it exciting so um may may hell chase from what

is this april 18th 1925 may hell. May Chase Hal Chase from Outlaw League is the headline. Hal Chase, former baseball star who stands banished from organized baseball, has been a recent storm center in the Independent Frontier League, having been made manager of the Douglas team. They said that Chase, he may be kicked out of the league is what they're saying. So just for being Hal. Why not? His mother dies on April 28th, 1925 and was buried in San Jose.

And he was one of the pallbearers, Hal was. So he's 36 at this point. Or not 36. This is a different time. He's trying to get something going because he's got nothing. One guy in the sporting news said Chase soon became a desert drifter of the Southwest. For a while, he did quite well playing in an independent copper mining league in which competition and bets were high. playing in an independent copper mining league in which competition and bets were high.

However, as he lost his ability and speed, he played ball for as low as a dollar or a few drinks a game. Oh. Oh. He wants. Water or booze? The guy out there is probably tainted water. Yeah, but that certainly tells you how far he's slid. If he's playing for water or playing for booze. Drinks.

Yeah. God, I mean, no shit. He once operated an auto laundry in Tucson. I don't know if that's a laundromat or car wash. I'm not sure. And worked at various menial tasks. He tried to drown his sorrow in the panther juice of the Southwest, and it undermined his health. The panther juice. Panther juice. Wow. Isn't it undermined his health. The Panther juice.

Panther juice. Wow. Isn't that what Charlie Sheen was drinking? I've never heard of that. Neither have I. Panther juice? Wow. That's what I'm always calling it from now on.

Yeah, after any live show. You guys, do you want to go get a Panther juice? Go grab a Panther juice together. Come on, man. Let's do it. I don't feel like it. Come on, man. Let's do it. I don't feel like it. Come on. The panthers are biting tonight.

All right. What are you doing? You're blowing it. So this is a guy from Tucson named Roy Druckman who tells us stories of Hal when this guy, Roy, is 84 years old. He remembered Hal from back in the day. And he said it is he privately published a memoir, a memoir and wrote back in the mid 20s. There were three or four local semi pro ball teams, the strongest of which was usually the Southern Pacific Rails. I was just out of school and was the team's regular shortstop. I and another gringo by the name of Joe Wagner were the only members

of the team who were neither Indian nor Mexican-American. We played one unforgettable series in Bisbee on the 4th of July. God, that sounds hot. Wow. Holy shit, that's hot. Against a team which included one of the members of the Chicago Black Sox of the infamous 1919 World Series. series. Buck Weaver played third base and another famous player who had been banned from baseball for life for some unsavory acts, Hal Chase, played first base for the Bisbee team in that series. They beat us with ease, but it was exciting to watch these former big leaguers perform.

Several other of the Black Sox players played in and around the border towns here, he goes on to say, but it was Chase who made the most vivid impression. Quote, it was at the end, it was at the tag end of his life. He was on his uppers at the bottom of the barrel. Jesus. I met Hal during the late 20s. I was still playing a little semi-pro ball. And he said that he was most struck by the fact that Hal Chase played a very, very far back first base. He said it was like he was playing shallow right field. I guess he had the I don't know why, you know, that was just his style. He's like in the grass on the first base?

Yeah, he's back there. I guess his reaction time is what he's worried about probably. He probably has less reaction time than he used to. But he said, quote, Hal Chase was a bum when I knew him. Go on. I met him the first time at the Cave Bar in Nogales.

A friend said, Hal, let's see how you swing. He was swinging a pool cue at pieces of paper that were tossed at him. Everyone was drunk. During Prohibition, he was around here three or four years. He did odd jobs and he used to borrow money from me. I was managing an old opera house on Congress Street where the Baker's Shoe Company is now. Wow. In Tucson.

In Tucson. Hal used to get his mail there. He once came in. That's, yeah, think about that. Wow. He didn't even have an address. Hal used to get his mail there. Once he came in, and I was in a bad mood.

He asked me for money, and I told him I only had 15 cents on me. We visited for a while and when he got up to leave, he said, Roy, can I have that 15 cents? I can buy a loaf of bread. Can I have your last 15 cents? 15 cents. I gave it to him and couldn't stop thinking that a man in the position of needing such a pittance was really near the end of the line yeah he said he wore old worn out clothes he'd come in once a week for his mail he got very little mainly from his family jesus christ he said he'd talk about baseball

he didn't have anything else to talk about chase spent a lot of time at dooley's pool hall on stone between congress and Pennington. They said apparently Chase was apparently one time a world-class pool player. There's witnesses that said that he's played very close with some of the top pool players in the world at that time. He was that good. But this guy said he never saw Chase playing pool. He said Chase preferred to sit and visit than watch with hang out with the college kids and drink and watch them play pool he was betting yep he's betting that's exactly what it is so they asked chase how he's probably probably the fucking guy holding the

bets i bet he's probably a bookmaker yeah he's taking a fucking a little scrape off at all and that's that sure asked how he made a living this, quote, Chase said he'd paint a barn, clean a yard, chop wood. He'd do anything to try to keep his body and soul together. He still drank, but I only saw him intoxicated the time I met him in Nogales. He said he was appalled by Chase's lifestyle, but he still harbors a soft spot for him. He says, and this is the quote you want said about you, he was very outgoing and friendly. He was nice looking when cleaned up. He was a bum, but he was a nice

bum. A nice bum. He literally was a bum. He was a hobo. That's the title of this episode for sure. A nice bum. So, that is great. But they said that he didn't like his manual labor and you could find him in the smokehouse or at the neighboring B&P pool hall, other people said.

Smokehouse was the restaurant, right? Yes, I believe so. Probably had a pool table there. But they said that he was a very good pool player. Other people did see him play pool. I guess these pool halls would be people from El Paso would come in and try to hustle games from the people who lived here. And one guy said that Chase in the pool halls,

he said he would gather all of his, this guy said he was a kid at the time, and all of his friends would gather to watch Hal play pool. He said, damn right, he was a good pool player. But he couldn't make much of a living out of it because nobody had any money back then right everybody's poor living in douglas in the 20s so you could beat everybody but they don't have anything to lose to you it doesn't matter yeah so um there you go they also said that the major leaguers were nothing special to the citizens of douglas they said their players were friendly but they didn't have no friends here.

Why? That's pretty much Arizona in general. Yes. They don't give a fuck about anybody. Unless they're insane stars. Except for all the people who sold out our show in November at Stand Up Live. You people

are fantastic. The rest of everybody else, you know who we're talking about. You're in traffic. You know. So July 27th, 1926 here. His son, remember Hal Chase Jr.? Yeah, whatever happened to him? Well, he comes to live with him for a while.

He's running a saloon, gambling, drinking drinking and sort of playing baseball in douglas arizona really yeah come on in that's a good place for hal jr when he's 16 let's bring him into this mix so uh yeah hal jr talks about how he came in and um they there's articles about how hal jr when he's in high school in douglas he comes to stay with his dad, he hits a home run. And Hal Jr. himself later on will say they made a big deal out of it, and it wasn't a big deal. He said it actually didn't go over the fence. It hit the ground and went through a hole in the fence. But everybody said it was a home run.

And they put it in the newspaper that Hal Chase's kid blasted this home run out. So next thing you know, there was teams trying to sign him. Like professional teams. They're like, it's Hal Chase's kid blasted this home run out. So next thing you know, there was teams trying to sign him. Like professional teams. They're like, it's Hal Chase's kid. He hit this home run. He's probably just a chip off the old block. Turns out, he said, it was just a big overhyped thing. He wasn't that good of a ball player.

And he knew it. He said it just wasn't. So he did go sign with the San Francisco Mission Club and said, I'm a ball player. And they said, so's your old man. So they were like, yeah, we know you. He said, my name is Hal Chase Jr. Right away. So they were like, yeah.

We're very well aware because you said the name Hal Chase. Yeah, we get who that is here. So he's hanging out with his son and there's an article here from 1926. This is what got his son signed. Hal Chase's son is a Sandlot star, already signed with Mission for Trial when he quit school. He said so.

Yeah, he's a kid. It's a big deal. He said his kid's only 16. Young Hal is only 16, but has the seasoned ivory hunters in Rapture already. Okay. He has the seasoned ivory hunters in rapture, so the people looking for good ball players, I guess, scouts.

Even those who have seen hopefuls fade repeatedly are enthused for at this stage, he's just like his dad was in the days he was too, a San Francisco Sandlotter. And the kid himself say he's out to equal his father's record for a reason.

He said, I know my father has been accused of many things. He could not be blamed for. He was made the goat. I'm going into baseball in the hope that I can redeem the name, Hal chase. Oh, this kid's the ultimate junior man.

He thinks he can fix it. He's going to fix it all. Yup. I hope I can be as good a player as my father. I couldn't be better under any circumstance. So they said he's attending the same high school that Hal did back in the day there. And like his dad, he throws left-handed, bats right-handed. They said he's built like his father, has a strong resemblance, and even the same characteristic gestures out on the ball field.

Yes. The boy doesn't know whether to be a pitcher or a first baseman. Old Hal was tried at shortstop and third base and catcher before he came to premier first baseman. So young Hal has another year in high school. He'll not join the Missions as a player until 1928 training camp, but in the meantime he's putting on a uniform every time the Mission Club is home, working out with the veterans who are glad to give their lore, give their lore to a lad of such natural ability.

So here's more on this father son relationship here. This comes from Hal Chase later on when he's 80 years old. Hal Chase Jr. Yeah. Oh, yes. He then he this because that was in the paper, fluff pieces. Later on, he's actually talking about his life, and he said he was two when his parents were divorced, as we found out. They got divorced early. He didn't see his dad again until he was 16. That's the first time he Catholic Church over her divorce. The divorce.

Which a lot of people moved out west for that. It was a place to start over. My grandmother even did that in the 60s. It was just what you did, which just wasn't done in those days. She took a job at an ice cream store in San Francisco and sent me to live with my grandparents. They're skipping over the whole help burn a baby thing. How about that part? Yeah.

So the mom sent Hal Jr. to live with Hal's parents in San Jose. It sounds cruel, but it really wasn't. It was harder on her. She remarried when I was nine. So Chase moved in with his mother and his stepfather, who was a welder. Yeah. And seven years later,

his dad showed up when he was 16. He said, my father came to California when I was 16 and asked to bring me to Arizona where he was playing in the Copper League. His mother and stepfather agreed. And Hal was in Douglas for eight months. He enrolled in Douglas High School, and he said, quote, when I arrived in Douglas, my father left the next day to go to Flagstaff. I was just an appendage, easy to get along without.

He put me in a rooming house, got me a meal ticket at a coffee shop, and left me with a dollar. I had no idea when he'd be back. To go play baseball? Yeah. Stay here, eat there, see you soon, bye. I'll be back. I'll be back. When he did come back 10 days later,

the first thing he said to me was, do you have any money? Do you have any change of that dollar? That dollar I gave you 10 days ago? When I told him no, he said, what happened to the dollar I gave you? He was kidding. Okay, that's good. He certainly wasn't cheap. It wasn't

that he didn't care. He just did as much as he was capable of. He just didn't think. So, he said things didn't get any better for him. He said, quote, this is Hal Jr., I wasn't too well accepted in the town. I was a stranger living with my father in a rooming house a block from the Gadsden Motel.

My father was usually gone. That was the great indication of how carefree my dad was. I never had an opportunity to be close to him. He was traveling most of the time, and he always seemed to have a girl somewhere, one of my uncles mentioned. I got homesick for California and went back eight months later he's like i'm gonna go play ball and fuck a few women and i'll be back at some point here's a dollar so he you know it sounds cruel no apart from that i mean your mom your mom fucking barbecued a baby yeah this is the your whole this Both of your parents are cruel. Everything is weird here.

He says about him in the end, quote, he was a nice guy when he had money and was on top. Money didn't mean anything to him, really. He took care of his parents, bought them a house in San Jose. For all the things that happened to him, he was not bitter. Well, it's all self-inflicted. That's the thing. He's not a terrible guy. He just scams.

He's a scammer. That's all. He's not a terrible guy he just scams he's a scammer that's all he's not being he's not being hurt by anybody else like no he did it to himself yeah that's a he can't be bitter he forced his way they kept giving him more chances and he was like no no i'll fuck that up too don't worry if he was bitter he'd be only bitter at himself. That's be the person to be bitter at. Now, August 24th, 1926, this kind of sucks and pretty much ruins any chance of playing even this low-level baseball for much more time here. Because basically they started having just people drive the teams. They didn't have a bus or anything. So they just started having people from the town who would volunteer, would drive players places.

Volunteer Ubers. Yeah, basically to drive them to the next games. And there's a car accident here. And he and another player are injured pretty badly in this car accident. They were driving to Silver City and thought he had passed. I guess this driver thought he had passed the last curve when he came unexpectedly to another curb, which he could not negotiate. The car overturned

and both men received numerous lacerations and bruises but didn't have any serious injury. Chase received severe lacerations about his head, arms, chest, and legs in addition to painful bruising about his head and I guess his

legs are fucked up too. He hurt his legs. Both of them? I suppose so. That's what they're telling me here. And they said he's going to return home to California as soon as he's able to travel. So he's going to be about two weeks before he can even go anywhere.

So, yeah, they talk about him and his accident. There's a little more on go anywhere. So, yeah, they talk about him and his accident. There's a little more on it here. Apparently, there was a... Oh, this is him. Okay, never mind. This is a month later after this. That's August. Now, a month later in September,

here, he's injured in another car accident. Oh, no. Yes. Him and another car, which he drives on the Whittingham stage route, while trying to clutch a slipping something, he accidentally stepped

on the gas so the car shot suddenly forward and struck an electric light pole. Oh, no. Near Lyman Tuttle's farm. The car was completely or considerably damaged. Mr. Chase escaped serious injury on the farm. The car was considerably damaged. Mr. Chase escaped serious injury on the count of his stooping position. He was stunned and lamed a good deal, and several fingers were lacerated.

They took him to the hospital, and he was to return home. So how much do you want to bet he was shit-faced when that happened? Oh, for sure. Had to be, right? He confused pedals and gunned it into a fucking pole yeah that doesn't sound good so he moved to night or he moves to el paso in 1927 and spends the rest of the 20s playing for a bunch of shitty semi-pro teams also goes prospecting for gold in the severe sierra ne Sierra Nevada mountains is also what he does for a living for a while, too. Oh, Jesus.

Not just an expedition. No, not just for fun. Not a fun weekend like they have the parks where you could do that now. No, no, no. He was like, I need to make some dough. So August 2nd, 1927, we find all of that out. And then we also find out, oh, wow, men, Harry Rose opens his new store Thursday. Hell, yeah.

Watch papers for announcement. Thank fuck for that. There's that under it. April 10th, 1928 here. He's playing baseball again, like we said, and he keeps playing. He's playing for Porterville again now. So they've banned him. Now he's okay to go back again, apparently.

So 1929, May 29th, 1929. It's old timers today is what the article's headline here. Former big league first baseman and former manager Cleveland Indians, St. Louis Browns and Kansas City Federals written especially for central press and morning call. Somewhere in the war torn land of Mexico is the last news I heard from him still. If the last news I heard from him still holds good is an aging athlete making a gallant fight against the enemy who wins in the end over all athletes time.

Ooh, that's a good enemy. Oh yeah. The man is how chase as graceful and ensure an an athlete as has ever donned a baseball uniform. Last I heard of Hal, he was managing a semi-pro outfit out in Nogales, Sonora, Mexico, where the revolution caused him to move back to the United States or not. I do not know. So they're like, no one knows where he is, basically, is what they're talking about here. They said, you know, we don't know where he is.

He might still be in Mexico. Who knows? So his brother now, Albert, who's 60, dies at this point as well. So now he's got a dead brother. That's in 1928. 1930, December 29th, 1933 is so this is a depression now later yeah yeah um and he is the word great depression fits not only the country but him as well yeah this is the boston globe so big newspaper yep and the headline is, Old Diamond Star Now Down and Out.

Hal Chase Does Odd Jobs and Washes Autos. Listen to this article. A Disheveled and Broken Figure Stumbled into the Gorgeous Lobby of the Hotel El Conquistador. Disheveled and Broken Figure. Good God. Jesus. He looked in the mirror before he left the house. He was like, all right, this is the best I can do. And they were like, disheveled and broken.

There you go. Wow, says special dispatch to the New York World-Telegram under the date December 26th from Tucson, Arizona. I'd like to see Doc Barrett, he told the clerk. Charlie Barrett is the veteran trainer of the Columbia University football team being polished up for the New Year's Day game with Stanford. Chase muttered the man in filthy clothing, Chase, tell the doc it's Hal Chase. Barrett couldn't believe it and came down to the lobby to ascertain who the imposter was. He's like, that's not Hal Chase.

Who's this phony? But it wasn't a pretender. Although Barrett scarcely recognized him, there stood once glamorous Prince Hal, the baseball immortal considered by many to have been the greatest first baseman who ever lived. Barrett trained the old New York Highlanders with whom Chase played a score of eight years ago when he was at the height of his fame. Tears poured down the cheeks of both as they embraced each other. The sight of Barrett brought happy memories and no doubt bitter regrets to Chase, ostracized from baseball for

well, making it easy, for well, to make it easy, sharp practice is how they call it. After being outlawed, he drifted back to San Jose. He's barred from everything. He drifted down to the border.

They keep using drifted and broken. And it's the words they're using. Prince Hal made a living until the bottom dropped out of the copper mines. He couldn't return to California. The home folks looked upon him with a scant. So he remained out on the, out in the desert. He gets a CWA job now, which is a government works job.

This is for unemployed people to give them some kind of money. And now and then washes automobiles in a Tucson garage at 50 cents a copy. With his second wife, he lives in tourist camps. So now he's got another wife, who's actually his third wife if he's got another wife now. Yeah. Living in tourist camps. I think that's like Hoovervilles basically, like transient villages. Tent cities.

Yeah. What was your biggest thrill in baseball, Barrett asked him. One would think it would have come to Prince Hal while he was knocking them out of their seats big time, but it didn't. Quote, That was it. Yep. Chase was a left-handed pitcher for the University of Santa Clara and caught the next day. This particular afternoon, he was catching against the University of California.

They describe he caught a fucking bunt. It doesn't matter. How about the day you won 40 grand in one day? That's what I want to hear. That's a good fucking day. So the Barrett said, quote, How old are you, Hal? Forty six, replied Chase. How old are you, Hal? Forty-six, replied Chase. They again shook hands.

The tramp who was once Prince Hal shuffled out into the blazing desert sun. Then a local sports writer said, quote, why only the other day he told me he was 48. Oh, no. And then another guy, Barrett, pipes up and said he's the guy who went to see the trainer, said, quote, well, I happen to know that he's 51. So I know how old he is. I was the trainer. Yeah. Even though he's down and out, he's still Hal.

So, yep, that's all he's doing now. So January 2nd, 1934, Hal Chase tells the newspaper that, quote, he was king of them all. Yeah. Yep. newspaper that quote he was king of them all yeah yep he uh they said he now depends upon a few dollars he can pick up playing with nondescript semi-pro teams around arizona it's 1934 he's 50 jesus fuck fuck kind of thing is that so um yeah they say the it's just that's what he's doing he's just he has to depend on bullshit bullshit what he can do uh his dad dies james edgar chase uh dies here his dad was from east mckayist maine by the way no shit yeah he's a maine guy died uh there at the home of his daughter here um who was his sister his father was

88 years old actually how about it not too shabby there in the 30s in the 30s yeah wow made it far that's a fucking hell of a run man you got to be a sturdy individual for that that's a mainer that's what that is yeah that's he's seen some shit didn't even have penicillin yet i mean you were fucking right wow april 20th, 1936. Okay. He does not have a great day. No. This is from the Fresno Bee. It's from Oakland.

Hal Chase, 53, who ranked a decade ago as one of the greatest first basemen in baseball, was severely injured when he was struck by a car today. Why are cars so dangerous for him? Fuck, man. A lot of people got hit by cars back then. The roads weren't happy. They didn't have the fucking crosswalks and shit. Attendance at the Alameda Hospital said his condition was only fair after he suffered lacerations about the head and body and a concussion of the brain. Jesus.

Instead of the one of the hands or the feet? Instead of the one of the hands or the instead of the one of the hands so you know he's he's just in a you know it's in a world of shit world of shit world of shit he's free he's quickly just spiraling downhill he's if he was a snowball he'd be getting too big to make a snowman out of at this point you'd lose him in there so he's laying in his hospital bed he doesn't know what to do with himself he's just so sad he doesn't know what to do with himself all of a sudden he hears some dogs barking coming from down the hallways oh great allow dogs in the hospital and through his doorway who is it it's bobby colorado that's right animal trainer from fredericksburg te Texas, and he says... How is it you come to arrive here?

What the fuck is wrong with you? I'm looking around. Look at you. You're getting hit by cars every 10 fucking minutes. Terrible. It says you got another wife, but I'm going to... I think you lied, Hal. I don't think you got another wife. I really don't.

The last one left you. You're a bum, you're a nice bum and I understand that you should get yourself a dog is all I'm gonna say how I really think you should get yourself a dog because I think loneliness is your main problem right now might be true plus I think a dog is probably a little bit smarter than you at this point might be able to discourage you from doing dumb shit or at least bark at you when a car is coming toward you yeah and gonna hit you in the fucking head so you know what i mean let's get a dog but oh jesus christ i gotta go take three forties dogs outside right now i gotta go but it's been good talking to you good luck buddy i gotta go and then poof in a cloud of dog shit and marinara sauce dog shit and marinara he's Dog shit and marinara. He's gone. And Hal is very confused. He's absolutely

confused. He tried to bet with Bobby while he was there. He's like, will you take bets? He's like, I don't do that no more. You know what I mean? I bet she drops four logs. How much you want to bet? How much you want to bet? How much you want to bet? How many shit and piss? We're not betting on the dogs. So now the first Hall of Fame balloting for the initial inaugural Hall of Fame for baseball is in 1936. And he receives a couple of votes, actually. Really? During the inaugural voting, he garnered 11 votes and was named on 4.9% of the ballots. And he had like 70%, so that's not 75% or whatever.

It's not great, but somebody's heard of him. It's pretty good. Other people who did get in, Connie Mack, Rube Marquard, Three Finger Brown, Mordecai Three Finger Brown, Charlie Gerringer, and John McGraw, as well as Shoeless Joe Jackson, who was banned. Yeah. Yep. In 1937, he received 18 votes uh hal does which is nine percent

so it actually went up and then after the 37 vote he was dropped from the ballot he never received the 75 you know needed here so um that's that and he uh here he goes may 5thth, 1936. He's going to spend the night in the pokey now. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. Hal Chase is jailed. Ball star held as drunk driver. Oh, no.

Hal Chase, one of baseball's immortals, often called the greatest first baseman to play in the major leagues, shook his head sadly in the county jail today and said, quote, it was all a mistake. The last 20 years of your life? yes, it was all a mistake, Al. You're right. You are one of the first professional athletes ever to get a DUI. Yeah, he's one of the first ones. He's like, God, Dad, I didn't even think it was possible to get a DUI. I didn't know that was illegal.

I didn't know it was a law. I didn't know it was a rule. Yeah, I knew it was a rule. I didn't know it was a law. It was a rule. Yeah, it was a rule. I didn't know it was a law. Back then, most of the time, they'd be like, well, how far are you going? Well, you be careful. Don't fucking, you know, don't go too fast or something. They didn't really.

Let us go first and tell people to get out of the way. Yeah. You had to be like stumbling, falling over drunk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I heard something. I think it was in the 60s. Care remember where? Possibly Texas, where the legal limit was 0.15 my god that was what they would test you at all 0.15 you know

how fucking drunk that is that's really drunk that's a literal extreme dui in arizona that was anything under that you were fine so it's quote it seems that Hal imbibing too freely of the cup that cheers drove his automobile in Williams last night in such a way to endanger life, limb and property. Now he's in jail charged with drunk driving. Hal has to stay in jail today because it's election day and Judge Recker's office in Williams is closed. He will probably go before the judge tomorrow. Jesus Christ. So unbelievable. He is now just floating around between Arizona and California working menial jobs, doing day labor.

Yeah. Getting drunk afterwards. So long to get to California from Arizona back then. So long. The roads were terrible. The 10 didn't exist. So it was in a car that does 20 miles an hour fuck man yeah and you'd have to stop and add water all the time these cars were not great light your headlights who's got a who's got a match if we got a match i need my headlights jesus march, 1941. There's an article in the register here.

Headline, Hal Chase bedridden, apathetic to game. What does that mean? Oh, man. Chase is bedridden for four months in the Colusa County Hospital with a stomach disorder. Doesn't give a whoop in a rain barrel for baseball if he can't play the game, he says. A whoop in a rain barrel. A whoop in a rain barrel. baseball if he can't play the game, he says. A whoop in a rain barrel. Whoop in a rain barrel. That's old timey.

Wow. Not a whoop in a rain barrel. How do we not name the episode Not a Whoop in a Rain Barrel? I don't even know what the fuck that means. I have no idea what that means. That makes no sense. That is fucking interesting so despite his 58 years Chase is still the outward picture of health standing 6 feet and

weighing 190 pounds he's embarrassed to be termed one of baseball's immortals quote shucks he said today there were lots of first basemen who were better there was Fred Tenney of the Boston Braves I learned a lot by watching him so they talked about

he claims to have introduced the squeeze play into the major leagues when he was with the Yankees back in the day. That's what he says. He said he learned the play from Charlie Graham when Charlie Graham was managing the Tacoma Tigers. He brought it into major league baseball is what he said. Brought it here. Yep.

That's what he says. They asked that he played in college he played two games in college and they asked him whether he graduated and he said quote hell no i didn't graduate which is what i say when people ask me about high school hell no i didn't graduate i only went to class twice. I was interested in baseball. Okay. Interesting. He said that once, uh,

he said the lack of education, he said once caused him to turn down a stage offer for $1,500 a week. Cause he wasn't good at reading a script. Oh, yep. He joined Los Angeles in oh four. They talk about his baseball career. Um,

he said, they said in these days, by the way, this is 1941, in these days of astronomical salaries for ballplayers, which is pretty funny, because they made a lot more, a great player, an all-star, made a lot more than your average guy,

but not like the difference between $30 million, $40 million a year and $60 grand a year. It wasn't that much of a difference. So they said chase his peak of $7,000 seems picky. You Nish. He figures he earned $150,000 from the game, but he didn't save it. He was too much of a good time.

Charlie ready to set up the drinks for the boys at the drop of his glove. Same. He's a good time. Charlie, a nice bum. Yeah. Who isn't like that? So the toughest pitcher in the old days was Walter Johnson, he says.

I never could get many hits off Walter. And that's a confession and a concession from a man who hit.341 with the Reds the days before the rabbit ball. July 30th, that was April 14th, 1941. July 30th, 1942. Hal has a stroke. Not good. Not good medicine in 42. No, no, not good at all for strokes. So he apparently collapsed on a downtown street from a stroke.

Had a stroke and just fell over. In Arizona? Yeah, they said he's 69. Oh, this was in Alameda, California. Okay. He's 59. They said he suffered no serious effects from his collapse, and hospital attendants said he would only briefly be incapacitated. Oh, that's great.

So apparently it was a small stroke. He underwent treatment at Colusa, California Hospital last year for a leg ailment in 1906. Now they talk about his career. August 1st, 1942, two days later. Okay. He's awake, but. Two days later. Yeah. Okay. He's awake, but now he doesn't know who the fuck he is. Oh, really?

He's got amnesia. Oh. They let him out of the hospital, apparently, but a little early, I would say. He was, now he's in the hospital again, in Oakland's Highland Hospital. Quote, the former baseball wonder man was found wandering and wondering on an Alameda lawn, torn and tattered with no resemblance to the dapper and deaf diamond digger. Jesus Christ.

Dapper and deaf diamond digger. Wow. Who showed the world how baseball should be played. Yeah. On a bet. Right now. Money on the bet. Right now, our sympathies are wholeheartedly on the side of this one-time, knee-panted local youth who went from here to Santa Clara and from Santa Clara to immortal fame in the public mind. We say in the public mind because Hal Chase will never be cast in bronze at Cooperstown.

A scandal which barred him from the game prevented that. But those days are gone, and he's taken his punishment by being torn from his first base. So the past in our mind's eye is now a running movie of quick footwork, a brown glove snatching a white pellet one jump ahead of an anxious runner, a quick bat smacking one down the line. This person thinks they're writing a novel. Just quit your job as a sports writer,

write your fucking novel, because it's annoying. It's leaking over into your work. He's in tough straits now. He was and perhaps still is a victim of amnesia. He's left his Williams home to take a Bay Area defense job and never arrived. Because now there's a lot of war jobs.

It's the middle of the war. And he's so fucked up he never made it? Yep. A woman phoned police that a ragged and tattered man was wandering on her lawn. It was Hal Chase, who at one time could have danced a figure eight, the Highland fling, and done a hand flip over the same lawn and still put the runner out. So time does pass. We make fame and we make mistakes and are praised and booed,

especially in the most upsy-down game in the world, baseball. Upsy-downsy. He doesn't know downsy, though. It's just upsy-downs. Yeah, it's upsy-downs. We wish Hal Chase, son of a local sawmill man, recovery from his illness. And besides that, the best of luck. His wheel of fortune has certainly been kept spinning all of his 55 years.

He's about due for another lucky number. And's not 55 no he's older so that's sad now if you're feeling sad about that and you're reading this newspaper another thing you might be feeling sad about is that you're not smelling as good as you'd like to smell well often yeah if you happen to be in Reno, Nevada, July 30th, 1942, do we have some ads for you? The sales, Jimmy. It's a great place to be selling smell good. It is. New Underarm Cream Deodorant Safely Stops Perspiration. Oh.

And this is like, it's arid, but it's like a can of it. Like an aerosol? No, no, no. Like you, but it's like a can of it. Like a... Aerosol? No, no, no. Like you dip your fingers in and wipe it on there. Like some Brill Crane? I was going to say like the shit you put on after you get grease on your hands working on a car. Yeah. Like that shit.

You scoop out. Fucking Gojo? That's what it is. It smells really good. That stuff smells like gasoline. I love that shit. Oh, I love it. Goddamn Gojo.

I get my hands dirty on purpose, so my dad would make me do that, use that shit when Oh, I love it. Goddamn Gojo. I get my hands dirty on purpose, so my dad would make me do that, use that shit when I was a kid in his garage. I'd be like, yeah, that smells good. The white stuff that's smooth? Smells like gasoline and citrus almost. It's the white stuff that's smooth. I always had the- Not the gritty shit. That's what I had, though.

Something orange. I remember that, too. I forget the name. Oh, the orange. He had that, too. Yes. the all the orange he had that too yes that stuff he had that too that was a case the other shit couldn't get it off yeah you need the little pellets yeah he had like two things of it on the wall yeah i used to do white stuff i loved the the orange was no good so good god i remember that so clearly this is uh uh cream

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To see, it says quote air conditioned correctly there's wrong wrong way the too hot too cold where you can go watch shirley temple quote shirley's uh rug cutting jitterbug is the thing over this uh glamour girls watch out here comes shirley the queen of teens because now she's not a little kid anymore now she's a teenager yeah she's smooth she's snazzy she's sensational in her first big dancing romancing grown-up hit and she's like got a boy next to her romancing romancing is like a some teenage kid next her. And how she drives the boys wild. Oh, my God.

Yeah, she's like early fucking Hannah Montana, I guess, is what they're going for here. The first striptease. Yep. And then also, Edward, oh, this is the name of the movie. Edward Small presents Shirley Temple in Miss Annie Rooney. That's the name of the movie. So go see that here. Here's an article from August 3rd, 1943 by Grantland Rice.

And if you've heard of Grantland, there was a sports media company and stuff. They named it after him because Grantland Rice was like the most famous sports reporter there was back then. He wrote good stuff. So this is from the Akron Beacon Journal. So this is from the Akron Beacon Journal, and they talk about how good he was here and talking about – here's one here. Well, we'll say this. Lightning hands. Chase had an amazing pair of hands.

They were chained or unchained lightning. No matter how badly the ball bounded, he always had a hand in the right spot. In this respect, he was a sleight of hand man. On a spring training trip throughout the South, we were walking along some street when Hal stopped in front of a fruit stand. He carried on some sort of conversation with the man in charge and then started on his way. After walking a block, he handed me two oranges and a banana and an apple, which he had lifted in front of the dealer's eyes. Standing at his side, I had never seen him make a motion with either hand. He stole a bunch of fruit. Without seeing it, that means he's done this a lot.

He's just a scammer. That's what I mean. He's the type of guy who's just always got a scam. He could just steal fruit in front of a fucking guy. Wow. October 23, 1942 here. He is booked again. Here.

This is a month after he's got had a stroke and he doesn't know where he is. Yeah. He's now out and fine again. They were right. He's not incapacitated for long. He's instead booked on charges of driving while intoxicated again. Second DUI. He's just a drunk.

He's a drunk bum now. He's a nice bum, but he's a bum. Yeah. Police said Chase and a companion, a 31-year-old Enid Black, a stenographer, a woman he's got with him, half his age, was also taken into custody. Wow. What the hell did she do? Hammered too? They said he was driving erratically and when stopped, told the officers, quote, they stopped him.

He got out and they were like, we're going to have to arrest you. You're obviously shit-faced. He said, quote, you shouldn't arrest a man as famous as I am. I'm Hal Chase, the baseball player. They're like, who? We don't know. I wasn't born yet when you played. To me, if I was him, I would hide that fact from the cops

because that just means oh we know you're shit-faced and probably stealing my wallet out of my pocket as we speak there's no google available back there so they can't see that he's a scumbag they just booked him into jail here uh yep they called him a 48 year old salesman of huntington park california oh boy that's what they said he was uh i guess he was just until recently he was living at the wpa single men's camp what even is that that's a that's the work program yeah it's for hobos essentially that would be riding the rails if they didn't have some menial amount of work from the federal government works projects. Yeah.

And so they had camps for these guys to stay at so they could work there two days a week. They were allowed to make a couple of bucks. Separate the men from the women so that you don't have, like, rapes and stuff. Yeah. And fucking babies from people who can't have babies. Right. So, I mean, guys, I mean mean going from being like new york yank a fucking new york yankee yeah you know what i mean and like a you're just a big deal in baseball

or in the world and people know who you are and you know to now you're here i mean you gotta feel bad for he's in a camp he is i mean i feel yes his son he what he knew him for fucking eight months and who knows if he ever talked to him again. Right. I mean, I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. Too many. All the bettors that lost money on his bullshit, but not nearly as bad as I feel for Hal Chase. How is it possible?

From Adele, Iowa. Adele, Iowa. He is Hal Chase, MPHBSNRN. Sounds like a bunch of nursing shit. Yeah, he's a nurse. He's a nurse here. Registered nurse with 25 years of experience. So not our guy.

Hal Chase, retired battalion chief at Santa Clara County Fire Department. Oh, no. That's where he went to college there. So I don't know if there's a connection there or what, but there we go. Hal Chase, civil lawyer, Petaluma, California. Really? So another guy at the Chase law offices as well. Oh. He says, quote, I'm directed and focused and a focused attorney who never accepts a case that I wouldn't take through trial if necessary. Yeah. That's the guy here. There's an actor from way back in the day, Hal Chase. When Hal Chase first came to Arizona, Nogales, backers of the international contended that he was not allowed to form an organized baseball.

So they're talking about this. There's another guy, I guess. Hal Chase was an actor at the time. Poor bastard. So they're talking about how this guy at the time kind of got fucked over and he died also. He spent 50 years in profession played muskogee 25 years ago wow yes um so yeah he's gonna uh retire i guess hal chase health facilities surveyor at state of iowa executive branch yeah was also that guy so lots of fun no No. July 19th, 1944 here.

They're talking and he's reminiscing and they're asking him for some questions here. They say the greatest ballplayers I ever saw. That's easy. Pitchers, well, there was Christy Mathewson, old Pete Alexander, Walter Johnson, and Three Finger Brown. There's Ty Cobb, a fat guy named Ruth, and Joe Jackson in the outfield. Catchers, let's see now. Roger Breschinen, I guess I'd have to put Roy Schalk in there with Roger. Dutchman at short, Rogers Hornsby at second, Hans Wagner there at whatever,

George Sisler at first. They talk about Trish Speaker. They said he was great, all right, but not in their class. They said, not bad. Now all you have to do is put Hal Chase in there in place of Sisler, and you have my team. People saying, an old ballplayer saying, Hal Chase belongs on the all-time team.

He said, Hal said, no, no, leave me out of it. They were talking to him and another old ballplayer. And they said, how could you leave Hal Chase off any all-time list, any all-star team? He was the greatest, wasn't he? At least that's what I was always believed. And the musty records will back up that belief to the hilt. Hal Chase, one of the finest fielding first basemen to ever step on the diamond, leaned over and whispered, I'm just here on a little vacation, sort of a birthday celebration.

You know I'll be 58 in a couple days. Probably not. July 21st, to be exact. I feel pretty good, though. So, yeah, people are saying he was the best. They said that he's still interested in baseball as much as he ever was. He said, quote, I've seen about a dozen games this season. Even went out to seeosh gibson play the other day the famous negro league babe ruth josh gibson uh there's a hitter one of the greatest of all time he hit two home runs and

they were belts say if he played at the polo ground 75 games a year he'd hit 75 home runs that fat guy was the greatest of all of course nobody can come close to that ruth he was the greatest that ever lived better than than Cobb or anybody else. If Ruth had shortened up on that bat, he'd have hit over 400 every year. But Gibson comes as close to Ruth as you'll ever get. Is that right? So, yeah, that's how good Josh Gibson was. I've always heard that.

They said, yeah, he was right there. He said, Chase said, you know how Gibson happened to start playing pro ball? Well, one day at the old Pittsburgh Crawfords, we're moving out of Pittsburgh in a bus. They happened to stop alongside of a Sandlot Diamond on account of a traffic tie-up. So they all took a look out the windows to watch the game in progress. There was a mighty loud crack, and a couple of seconds later, a ball bounced off the top of the bus, which was parked about 400 feet from the home plate.

Oscar Charlestown, who managed the Crawfords at the time, got right out of the bus and hot-footed after the kid who had socked the ball. He signed the boy right on the spot, waited until he got home and got some clothes, and then took him along on the bus. That boy was Josh Gibson, just 16 years old. He's over 35 now, but he still can hit. So that's what they were talking about. I don't know. That sounds like a legend. That's what they were talking about that's i don't know

that sounds like a legend you know that's probably not true but it's a great fucking story solid story hit a bus with the ball hit the teams that's a great tryout oh my god um they talk about babe ruth he said that um ruth used to piss people off because he was so fucking good. Chase talked about a story which concerned Ruth and Leo DeRocher, who's like one of the craziest son of a bitches to ever play the game. He said Ruth used to burn DeRocher. He'd say to Leo, anything you can hit, I can catch right in my teeth. So you can't hit for shit.

I'm better than you and fuck with him. So he said Chase still gets emotionally upset when he and the talk comes around to his final days as a player. So they talk about how he gets upset that he got kicked out of the game, that he's a disgrace and has a terrible reputation. So March 30th, 1947, Hal Chase, seriously ill.

Oh no. Right after that Prince Hal, they talk about, um, he's seriously ill and, um, he might end seriously ill and he might not make it out of this. Yeah. So they say he lingers near death. So that is a couple days later, still lingering near death.

Attendants at Memorial Hospital reported that the condition of the old-time baseball star remains unchanged. He'd been in serious condition from a kidney ailment and complications for a week. He retired from the Major Leagues in 1919. Those widely publicized brief French bathing suits never will become... What the fuck is that? That's the next thing that says. What? It goes

right there, 1919. Those widely publicized brief French bathing suits, Speedo type things, never will become fashionable in america says elsa shipparelli they are not stylish she writes in the american magazine and besides they would never be allowed on our beaches a man's dying i would like to show you this there is no break no there isn't even a it's a paragraph new paragraph but there isn't even a new paragraph, but there isn't even any break in the type at all. It's one article under one headline. Look at that.

A man's clinging to life, and she hates the bathing suits. Clinging to life. April 24th. He's still not doing well here. That's not good. Hal Chase says this. In the sporting news, they talk to him, and he says, I'd give anything if I could start in it all over again.

What a change there would be in the life of Hal chase. I was all wrong, at least in most things. And my best proof is that I'm flat on my back without a dime. Yeah. Yeah. He's sick and dying and nobody gives a shit about him. He said,

I am an outcast and I haven't a good name. I'm the loser. Just like all gamblers are. There you go. I'm the loser. He said, I am an outcast and I haven't a good name. I'm the loser, just like all gamblers are. There you go. I'm the loser, he said. Oh, man. I'm the loser. He then ends up living with his sister in Williams, California, because he just has nowhere else to go.

May 18th, 1947, he dies. Yep, he's dead. Death came at 1045 a.m. They attributed it to heart and kidney ailments complicated by age. He's like 60. Yeah, but it's booze. Yeah, it's that he's lived a horrible life. He's eaten and drank shit forever, and he's done.

So they said he'd been in the hospital since March,, you know, the end of Prince Hal, basically. It's about what your body can take, 60 years of living like shit, and that's about it. Yeah, that's all, man. And they say that a guy here, Gil Badeau, he's a Los Angeles Dodgers scout and a guy who knew Chase and knew all about him. who knew Chase and knew all about him. He said, quote, if you go back and look at the death certificate of the guys who played with Hal Chase, like look at everybody else who died around there,

he said you'll see that they list occupations like plumber, farmer, factory worker, things like that. Yet Hal Chase, even when he was 53 years old, listed in the Tucson City Directory his occupation as ball player wow yeah hal chase thought of himself as a professional ball player player for every one of his 64 years the last article said he died said he was 57 by the way right so that's hilarious here um yeah

they said in recent years he lived with his sister. He seldom talked about baseball, which he did. He did a sporting news article for Christ's sake. They said his trophies were gone. His scrapbooks were gone. His only memories, some of them unpleasant were left with him. Um, that is fucking sad shit. Um, he said, Chase had said, quote, sure. I knew about that, about the fixing of the world series.

He said, but I was no squealer. Oh, I don't, I don't tell on peeps. He said, I didn't tell on people. I just took what I had. He said, baseball was good to me. I guess I made $150,000 in all and legitimately in baseball, but I muffed my big chance. I guess I got a little too smart for my own good.

So they said he's been in and out of the hospital. His legs were all fucked up. He's been hobbling around until recently, but recently he's been in and out of the hospital. His legs were all fucked up. He's been hobbling around until recently, but recently he's been all messed up. In the last couple of weeks, he's been in comas for 36 hours two different times. Jesus. They said each time he rallied and came out of them with a wisecrack, but not quite. Now he's actually dead. And yep, he said he played his last game of baseball professionally

in Williams, California in 1939. And he said it was just too fast for him and it was a softball game. He said that was enough here. He never got to play in the World Series which was his ambition in life, he said. I mean, he could have maybe if he didn't throw a bunch of games. So who so i mean you did that to yourself yeah you did it to

yourself that's very sad but not quite as sad as what would happen if you're in the lexington herald here and it says don't be a wish i had be glad you did start your baby chicks on Kentucky Queen starting shit. Whatever this is. Yeah. Yeah. Kentucky Queen starting and growing mash. Feed for growing chicks. An abundance of vitamin A to guard against colds.

An abundance of vitamin D for prevention of rickets. An abundance of vitamin G for rapid growth. Keep your chickens without rickets. Without rickets. No chicken rickets. No other food is needed from hatchlings to pullet age of five months just this shit so get some of that also you certainly want to stop in if you're in lexington kentucky in 1947 on may 19th and see that the lexingtonians as it says here are proud of the famous trumpet man, Billy Butterfield.

Oh, Billy. He's just some pudgy blonde guy in a bow tie holding a trumpet. Plays the trumpet. Capitol record hit band coming tomorrow night only. He's a former Transylvania college student who has gone to the top with his trumpet playing and fine band. Transylvania. Oh, yeah.

He went to Transylvania. There's reservations on the phone here you can get. The mellow music of Bill Cross and his new band as well. The finest music in the bluegrass. So get in there. February 20th, 1948. He's lucky he didn't outlive her. Her sister dies too.

The sister who he was living with drops dead as well. So that isn't good. Miss Jessie Mae Topham passed away here. And, yeah, she's dead. So February 17, 1952, there's an article here talking about Hal Chase and his legacy. And they said, why in a delay is a thing that says baseball fans throughout the country were greatly pleased to see those two fine outfielders, Harry Heilman and Paul Wainer, selected for baseball's Hall of Fame at Cooperstown, New York. But why the delay in naming the great California boy Hal Chase for the honor? Well, if you think that's a delay, wait till you see now.

It's 75 years later. He's still on it. Now it's 75 years later. He's still on it. Is it because most of those making selections never saw the player perform? Or is it on account of some kind of prejudice against Hal Chase? The gambling thing? I wouldn't call that prejudice.

I'd call it just, you know, consequences for actions that you did, right? I think. You know, cheating and such. Yeah. It's like murdering a guy and go, they won't let me out of prison. It's a prejudice against me and my murdering. I don't know what it is. In the long history of baseball and the National League and American Leagues have had a long list of fine first basemen.

But Hal Chase made plays around first base that others have never attempted. Years ago, Fred Tenney came out of Brown University to join the New York Giants and initiated a new technique on playing first, which was improved on and perfected by Hal Chase of the New York Highlanders, Chicago White Sox, and Cincinnati Reds. So the next time selections are being made for the Hall of Fame, let's hope that Hal Chase, the king of first baseman, is chosen. Wow, that is something else. This is F.H. Hayes of the Pittsburgh Press. He says, I'll tell you about Chase.

He was a picture ball player. You fellas today would call him a fancy Dan, whatever that is. You couldn't keep your eyes off him. This is the most old-timey guy ever. He fascinated you, but some performers look good doing nothing. That was Chase. Yeah. Look good doing nothing. So, yes, he dies there. He is

buried in the Oak Hill Memorial Park. You can still go see him. Section S Block 39, Lot 3, Space 4 in San Jose, California. So if you live in San Jose, you're going to that cemetery, go take a peek at Hal. Send us a picture at Crime and California. So San Jose, you're going to that cemetery. Go pick,

take a peek at house and it's a picture at crime and sports. So do that. Uh, there is the, his, his, uh, his gravestone here.

It says that he, uh, the beloved Mary J. Oh, that's his wife is there to Mary J. So a different, he was married at some point here. Um,

she died in 1925. What the fuck? What? Yeah. Apparently he, he died in 1925 what the fuck what yeah apparently he he died in uh i don't know what the hell's going on there apparently she died in 25 i guess so somebody else uh so you can't get enough hal chase you can get on ebay the 1911 t205 piedmontmont Gold Border Tobacco Baseball Card here. Hal Chase's baseball card. One of those old-time little tobacco cards. It's in decent shape for an old card.

I mean, not like a mint condition for sales. $50.99. Wow. That sounds great. I'd love to have that. That sounds very, very reasonable. And the back of the card is cool, too. There's a little things about him and uh stats a couple of stats

and everything is the only one you could find nope there is also here uh ian dug up here 1915 american caramel company that's who made it american caramel company which i think that might have been hershey's before they changed because maybe hershey's chocolate used to be a caramel company really and then at the world's, he found chocolate and was like, well, how the fuck do you make that? Learn how to make it. And it sold better than caramel. So he did that. So I don't know if that's a different caramel company or what.

But this is the E106 Hal Chase here. It's $895. That's a card? It's actually graded. I'll show it to you. It's in great shape. Look at it. I can't see that.

Oh, here. Sorry, my monitor wasn't turned enough for you. You got to roll it. Oh, wow. It's a drawing, though, because no pictures were around. That's wild. Yeah, not a pic. Couldn't put it on a baseball card.

They were all drawings back then. That's wild. That's what it is. $895 is the buy it now. But I mean, it's an in good shape 1915 baseball card. So even the commons are worth something on those. So you can get that. The back of that said, this card is one of a set of 48 leading baseball players in the

National American and Federal Leagues. One card is given with every piece of baseball caramel manufactured by the American Caramel Company, York, Pennsylvanialvania i think it is i think that's yeah it's gotta be them under the famous brand of pcw so there you go everybody that is prince hal chase a nice holy shit that is why way more story than i expected there to be there for a hundred year old story hundred so many, so many years. He died 75 years ago for Christ's sake. Yeah. This was one where I was like,

I hope there's a, I picked him out and I was like, he sounds like a real character, like a fun one. I hope there's enough to fill a couple hours. It's like, holy shit. He was such an asshole.

He's got a shitload of DUIs too. Oh God. Think about all the ones that weren't in the paper. Right. Yeah. Like if he was at some town that, you know, doesn't know who the fuck he is.

Didn't know he was a baseball player. Like jesus christ or he just wobbled down the road not threatening life or property or anything they're just like ah fuck it let him be fuck it ran into a wall but they were like i don't know it's his car fuck him there you go that's how chase everybody if you enjoyed that or enjoyed any show you've ever heard of crime and sports head over to whatever app you're listening on. Give us five stars. It really does help. We don't know why,

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