Crime in Sports - #397 - The Head Of His State - Mark Ingram Sr

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

This week, we head back to the brain damage sports, with a man who was a Super Bowl hero, with a Heisman Trophy winning son, but also a complete mess. He apparently dipped into everything from drugs, to counterfeit money, to stealing Lawrence Taylor's golf clubs, to even worse! Did his claims of brain damage finally get him out of federal prison??Be a Super Bowl hero, run a shady clothing business from the Bahamas, and trade your fake money in for real cash with Mark Ingram Sr!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Miami, the Giants. He was on the Giants Super Bowl team in 90. No. No H in his name at all. No. None. No. It's I-N-G-R-A-M. Ingram. on the giant super bowl with an age 90 uh no no h no name at all no none no not no it's ing r a m ingram yeah uh this is mark ingram senior because mark ingram ii junior let's be realistic here was in the nfl for a while as well and is a an excellent play i mean he was doing fantastic huge star giant star and won the Heisman and all that.

So we'll get into this. Mark Valentino Ingram. Oh, what a great middle name. Valentino is a fun name for a dude, for a black guy born in Rockford, Illinois in 1965. It's old Valentino. Mark Valentino Ingram is awesome. I love it a lot. Who knows if that's a friend of his father's or, you know, you never know why people name their kids middle names.

Middle names are like first name is serious. We got to name them either something that you believe in or people have like biblical or it'll be like I got to name him after my father who died in the war. You know what I mean? There's always like something crazy. Last name, obviously, whatever. And then middle names like, let's have some fun with it. Fuck it. Let's just fast and lose with the middle name. Yeah.

What's your favorite Star Wars character? We'll name him that. Who cares? Yeah. Nobody will ever know. So I go, what's your middle name? Then they'll go, what? What?

Mark Obi-Wan Ingram. What the fuck is that? That's weird. It's a middle name? Then they'll go, what? What? Mark Obi-Wan Ingram? What the fuck is that? That's weird. It's a weird name. Old Chewy. Yeah, or some weird aunt that, you know, somebody no one even remembers. So he's born August 23rd, 1965 in Rockford, Illinois. And he grows up in this area.

And not a lot, actually actually on his early life here. Don't know too much about his early life, which that's fine because he gets into plenty of shit later on. He went to high school in Flint, Michigan, actually. Oh, no. Yes. Flint Northwestern High School and goes to high school in Flint, Michigan. He'll end up going to Michigan State. So he's a Michigan guy through and through here.

His father's name is guy through and through here. His father's name is Leon and not Valentino. No? No. He's an engineer with the Flint Board of Education. What do they need engineers for? I don't know. I don't know if he's I don't know, to design

the actual room they meet in, maybe? I don't know. Fit a table that'll fit in there just right. I don't know what an engineer would be needed for with the Board of Education, but whatever. I can't guess. Unless he's, like, designing the curriculum for the mathematics department, maybe.

I don't know. It's the 60s, so who knows what the hell he was doing. We don't know. It could have been anything. They're naming people Valentino for Christ's sake. Yeah, Valentino is a middle name. What we talking about his mother's name is katherine okay and uh he played high school football flit northwestern like i said he played quarterback in high school really he's a quarter he's only like a 5 10 guy he's not a big guy

at all uh those little kind of quicker receivers that were in vogue back in the day there. Punt returners, yeah. Yeah, the fun part is he was quarterback with Andre Rison as his running back. Holy shit. Ingram and Rison in the backfield of the same high school. What a team. Which is pretty impressive. That's two first-round draft pick wide receivers with athletic ability in your backfield then. Not bad.

So he ends up playing at Michigan State University, which is in East Lansing michigan which is the big college closest to flint i believe so it's you know that's uh if you're from that area you you know that's kind of a big deal so he goes there 1983 is his first year at michigan state that he is a part of anything uh they are four six and one back then yikes not a big powerhouse at the moment no no very bad conference not even two six and ones real bad not even challenging michigan no not even in like the you know the the uncle ben's uh long grain rice bowl or something like not even the worst some weird bowl none of that even because, like, a rivalry in state with the state and the uni. But, Jesus, that's a joke at that point. That's not even – at least we get to face them this year.

Hope we're good in basketball. That's what that is. That's what that means. So this year, Mark does – he doesn't do much. Only four receptions this year. Oh, so he's playing wide receiver. He's playing wide receiver. Yeah, they move him out there because he's very speedy and shit.

So, yeah, I think he has in six games, he has four receptions for 28 yards, which is young. So they're easing him into the whole thing. And this team, I was reading an article about this. This team only threw the ball an average of 12 times, or yeah, threw the ball an average of 12 times or uh yeah threw the ball an average of 12 times a game per game per game because it was an interview with the quarterback where he was like because the next year they start they go 500 they're six and six and they're like how do you feel about never throwing the ball and he's like oh i mean we're playing better so i can't complain about it but of course i'd like to throw the ball every down, obviously, but I can't.

So they ran more the next year? It was the same thing. They were just the same offense. So it was one of those things. Same coach, George Perlis, was their coach. So they're not the type of team where they seem like they're real dynamic to watch. You know what I mean? It's certainly a predictable game plan.

Yeah, and there was a lot of colleges that used to play like that back then. Jesus. They'd either run the option 90% of the time. Oh, my. Growing up in New York, we went to Army football games. And Army back then, they had a good running back and nothing else because they're Army football. So top athletes aren't like, I'd like to be in the military for five years after.

When my stock is highest to go into the NFL, I'd like to then go into the Army for five years. That's what I'd like. It's a tough sell. You know what I mean? It sure is, yeah. So they would run the ball. They would throw the ball like four times a game. It was fucking maddening and mind-numbing to watch, just this constant run the middle run up the middle run up the it was enough so maybe the left maybe the right

oh there we go we're definitely running it running again then they'd be like our running back had 151 yards this game yeah he had fucking 68 carries what do you expect the total yards you guys had 192 what are you talking about who cares yeah and the only times they'd throw would be like on an option, where it would be like half run and then they'd dump it off. So it wasn't like they were throwing it down the field or playing with anything like that. So 84, they go 6-6, which still, they go to a bowl game though. 6-6 is, yes, because Michigan State is a popular school.

Okay. And that's how bowl games work. They're not, this isn't on merit. This is on, it's like stand-up comedy bookings. It's like stand-up comedy book and watch yeah right it's not who's funny it's who's got a better tiktok audience that's all it is so uh they go to the cherry bowl which does not exist and doesn't seem to have existed for a long time that i can remember how was that beats the shit out of me you know who they play at this is how low of a ball this is army they play army just what i told you what a boring day and they lose the cherry bowl to army 10 to 6 ouch so that is three field goals all day

and one touchdown oh one touchdown and not a lot of passing because these are two teams that don't pass. I doubt they saw 20 passes the whole day for both teams combined, which is – Fuck. That's a lot. That's saying something here. They do have Lorenzo White on this team who ended up in the NFL. Lorenzo White? Yeah, Lorenzo White.

He was a running back. Yeah, he was a running back. I think he played for the – Chargers? Oilers, I believe. Oilers. Yeah. Lorenzo White. He was a running back. Yeah, he was a running back. I think he played for the Oilers, I believe. Oilers. Yeah. Lorenzo White. That's far.

I would forget because of Lorenzen Wright. I will never remember that guy. Oh, yeah. Forever. Lorenzen Verngania Wright. Yeah. See what I mean about middle names? Let's just fuck around with this.

Let's name him after Verngania for his middle name. He got a wrestling territory king's name. What a weird thing to name a person. This year, Mark plays in all 11 games, 21 receptions for 479 yards and four touchdowns. The big thing is he's the deep threat. Yeah, sounds like it. That's a lot of yards. He averages 22.8 per reception which is

huge he averages a quarter of the field every time he touches the ball so for every 10 yard pass he catches a 30 my god if you run 10 times in a row you tend to loosen up they start coming forward you get your man coverage on the outside you got a deep deep threat. Bingo, bango. That's it. There you go. Ingram's got a career. Big plays. So 85, they go 7-5. So they went from 5-6 to 6-6 to 7-5. Eek out a few more wins here and there. Oh, yeah.

This will get them a better bowl, too. This year, they go to the Hall of Fame Classic. I don't know. That was replaced by like a weed whacker bowl or like a bug killer ball of some kind. A roundup ball. The Totino's pizza roll ball. I don't know what the fuck's going on here, but they have all this shit. The Hall of Fame classic, they lose this one as well to Georgia Tech, 17 to 14.

They can't win. Not doing. They're not a real big powerhouse here. And again, you look at their lineup, Andre Rison's on the team now. They recruited him in, so that's good. So now you have Ingram and Rison as your deep threats. Who went to

high school together, so that's great. They know each other and they're happy with each other, so that's nice here. They're doing very well, I guess they are individually um there's an article from halloween day uh october 31st 1985 and it's from the detroit free press and the headline is spartans find mark ingram very receptive hardy fucking hard oh yeah that's terrific uh they said um thump here's what it says. This is pathetic. Thump, thump, thump.

Splat, splat, splat. Oops. Smash. No big deal. Mark Ingram has just broken another glass with his ever-present rubber ball. What? Okay. Apparently, he bounces this rubber ball like Rocky in the first Rocky.

He just walks around bouncing a rubber ball and breaks shit with it. Okay. rocky in the first rocky like he just walks around bouncing a rubber ball and break shit with it okay and he said quote i carry it around all the time and keep bouncing it off the walls i throw it and catch it to keep my reflexes and hands sharp sometimes i throw it so it'll ricochet and bounce back at odd angles like a like a super ball from like a fucking like a racquetball okay he's always bouncing it that way it'll bounce back and he's got to react to it and grab it with his hands and i guess as a receiver and he breaks it and then he always always breaking shit too yeah um they said that he's always doing that he's always following the bouncing ball down hallways and dorms through the corridors of the daughtry

football building sometimes to an excess okay he says oh yeah people tell me to quit quite a bit and i've broken a couple of glasses and some pot bottles with the ball but he said this is what keeps him yeah this is what keeps him going so that's what it is he's uh his coach said he's an underrated player he's the reason we throw long last year and this year He's an underrated player. He's the reason we throw long last year and this year. So that's Mark is the shit. They talk about how he's the big deep threat. He says, I was a quarterback in junior high and high school,

so I know what a quarterback goes through. I know I make Dave's job easier by getting open and catching the ball. He's running a 4.3540 at this point. Holy. Which is fucking fast fast even in this league today they would be like all right impressive take a look at him he's not a big guy but he said i can run 4-4 every time but when i see the ball in the air i seem to find another gear i also treasure the end around play we don't see the ball often so i try to make something happen when i do get it yeah any kind of trick play there you can do the end around, so I try to make something happen when I do get it. Any kind of trick play there.

You can do the end around where the receiver gets to run with the ball. Yeah. So they said, as Coach said, he doesn't like mistakes or having people not going 100%. He tells them about it in a private manner. He said he's our enforcer. That's what the coach said. Pulls people aside, yeah. Yeah, he's 5'10", and he's the enforcer.

Ingram said one game, we were down 10 points, and some guys were getting down. I reminded them we still had more than a quarter to play. I won't tell you exactly what I said. I think I can guess probably. Probably told them, play harder. Play harder, you pussy fucks. That's probably had it in there somewhere. He said, I always wanted to be a Spartan.

I enjoyed the campus and the people. Plus, I knew Daryl Turner, Carl Banks, and Lonnie Young. fucks that's probably had it in there somewhere he said i always wanted to be a spartan i enjoyed the campus and the people plus i knew daryl turner carl banks and lonnie young so he said when i first came here i was inexperienced as a wide receiver daryl showed me a lot of things i'm trying to teach andre the same things yeah you you know what you did because andre also had an episode of crime and sports so whatever you taught him you both ended up not only in the same high school backfield, the same wide receiving core in college, but also on the same fucking show about dipshits. So good job. Let's all give them a round of applause, everybody. That's great. That's fucking amazing.

He said that there's some advantage in it not being a passing team. With Lorenzo, meaning Lorenzo White, sometimes people don't respect our passing game. That's better for our receivers. The defensive backs have a tendency to go to sleep. Yeah. That's why you run the ball a lot to open up the receiving. So that year he played in 11 games and had 31 receptions for 675 yards and three touchdowns as well. And that's 21.8 per reception.

So he's still killing it. If they pass more, he'd have as big of numbers as anybody. Sure, yeah. But they just don't pass a lot. 86, Michigan State, 6-5 that year. Back to that. No bowl game that year either. So that's not great.

Good. You don't deserve a fucking bowl game. You're barely 500 assholes. So that year, 35 receptions, 672 yards, five touchdowns. The fact that he doesn't get a lot of balls thrown at him is intriguing to scouts too. It's one of those things where. Really? Yeah, because they're like

what would his numbers be if he was on a team that throws a lot holy shit because this was there were some offenses that threw a lot coming up in this time and so they're like oh man they start you know oh this is like it's almost like he's uh this rough diamond that just needs to be polished and put on display well rough gem yeah so for the uh at the combine, he's 5'10 and 5'8 inches tall, 188 pounds, 5'10, almost 5'11. He's more than halfway to 5'11, though. He's still 5'10. More than 5'10 and a half. This is coming from a guy who says he's 5'8.

Well, I am. And has documentation claiming to be 5'9". I don't know why they did that to me. I didn't ask for that. I didn't ask for that. That's fucking great. I don't need them lying for me. Hey, don't lie here on actual fucking documents.

here on on actual fucking documents actual credentials that are legal like that is a document that i could say you're goddamn right i am the government says so well maybe that'll get you out of trouble someday when you do something someone will be like a guy who's about five seven and he'll be like love five nine so i don't know anything about that. Obviously, since I'm right here. I don't know nothing about it. His 40 time here, 4.42 seconds. So 4.40 is just fine. That's great. Nobody's worried about that. 32-inch vertical jump, so not bad.

Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's a good athlete. So the draft comes around April 28, 1987. 87, by the way, will be the strike year. So that's how Suge Knight ended up playing in the NFL and shit like that. 5'10 or 5'8, it doesn't matter when you've got a near three-foot vertical. That's not bad. Holy fuck.

3'2 isn't that fantastic. It's not? I mean, for like a guy who works at walmart it's pretty good but for like a an nba player that would be pretty not great that'd be average yeah that'd be about yeah that would be not great an nfl player doesn't jump that high generally right receivers do a lot so you'll get receivers now that have jesus randy moss had like a 40 inch vertical yeah but he's a fucking freak yeah yeah yeah no it's good it's not bad at all 32 inches is still very good but it's not like incredible that didn't make anybody go oh shit he really gets up you know i mean that's like oh yeah that's pretty average for

for that guy five ten he can almost dunk right yeah maybe that seems like you'd be close to it anyway depending on how long your arms are foot and a half for an arm i guess above the head i guess you know what i mean because yeah yeah six eight inches before yeah your elbow would be yeah it's about another foot now maybe it's got it's got to be fucking close well maybe i don't know so 87 draft the who was the mvp by the way the year in 87 j Jimmy. 87? Was it Thomas or Taylor, I mean? It's John Elway, Jimmy. In 87, was it? 87, John Elway.

No shit. Yeah, 87, John Elway there. The offensive player of the year was Jerry Rice. Defensive player of the year, Reggie White. How'd that work out for John? They lost to the Redskins in the Super Bowl. Not great. Passing leader that year?

I'll give you 100 guesses who led the league in passing yardage, and you'd never get it. And when I tell you, it'll be shocking. Was it an Oilers quarterback or some shit? No, Neil Lomax. Remember him, the Cardinals quarterback? Yeah, it was Neil Lomax. He was the passing leader?

3,387 yards. Because also, he didn't play for five games because of the strike. Okay. Nobody played. So the whole season was kind of weird. He might have crossed the line earlier, too, and got more yards. Because that's kind of how it worked. Number one pick in the draft, 87, Jimmy Westman.

Oh, boy. 87. 87 draft. I don't have a goddamn clue. Vinny Testaverde. Oh, God. 87. 87 draft. I don't have a goddamn clue. Vinny Testaverde. Oh, God. Yep. Vinny Testaverde going to Tampa.

That guy was a number one pick. Overall, yeah. Wow. Huge. Big time. From Miami, they were a big time college powerhouse. Incredible. He was considered great at the time.

Corneliusennett number two the great buffalo bill linebacker he was really good alonzo highsmith brent full uh brent fullwood a couple of average running backs there um the kelly stouffer's the for the next quarterback picked at number six right kelly stouffer you might have remembered him from Chris Berman puns. Oh, okay. Talking about Stouffer's lasagna. Oh, was it? You have the same immediate comic reaction as Chris Berman in 1989.

35 years ago, fucking Chris Berman. Rumbling, stumbling. Because there's never been anything as famous as that's been a Stouffer. There's no other Stouffer that matters as much as lasagna. As famous as that's been a stouffer. There's no other stouffer that matters as much as lasagna. As much as the lasagna and whatever else they produce. The divorce father meal.

That's embarrassing. That's a frozen lasagna. Somebody tried to recruit me to a multi-level marketing one time by feeding me frozen lasagna. Stop it. I swear to God. I swear to God. They took my ex-wife and i when we were we were younger whatever first married i think my wife was pregnant with our first child so it was that

long ago and these people were church people that were like into this and it's a friend of mine that became a church person they invited us over just to hang out we were like all right fine we'll go be nice and then it was a whole big thing to get us to sell like detergent and shit that they had pallets of in their garage and like weird energy drinks that before that was a big deal. Knock off shit. All this weird shit. And they're like, you should do that. And I'm like, I don't have any fucking money. So you're barking up the wrong tree.

But you thought lasagna? You thought Stouffer's frozen lasagna was going to steal the deal? That was going to get me. But that was their sale. Like, what can we do? Well, he's Italian. Maybe we can. I know how we can do it.

We'll give him frozen lasagna and then he'll be putty in our hands. I can't make lasagna. He'll be putty in our hands. I don't know what else he eats. Frozen lasagna. And Wonder Bread to dip in. Did it have butter and at least garlic powder on it? No, it was a frozen lasagna.

They took it out of the oven and put it on the fucking table. Poof. Took the film off it, popped it in, took it out. Pow. There you go. And then took the twisty tie off the Wonder Bread and put a couple of slices out. And it was like, there we go. Would you like to be in business with us in a highly unprofitable adventure here where you give us some of your money for some reason?

Nope. I think I'm okay on that. Thank you very much. See how we eat? You could eat this way too. Ooh, look at this. A patio home on the west side in Glendale and fucking frozen lasagna with Wonder Bread. Who doesn't want

to live like this? Like a fucking king. A patio home by ASU West is where it was. Fuck out of here. You too, James. For a little bit of your money, you could live like this. I could eat terrible lasagna also? Sweet.

Sweet. Oh, man. Holy shit. So let's see. Shane Conlon in this draft jerome brown the philadelphia eagle who died remember him no died in the early 90s he was active when he died defensive tackle oh oh was it was it during practice and he killed over i don't remember if it was a car accident it was a car oh yeah. Oh, well, that's okay. Jerome Brown, yeah. Number 10, Hall of Famer Rod Woodson. Fantastic, yeah. Instead of Kelly Stouffer or Brent Fullwood, you could have had one of the best fucking

cornerbacks that ever lived. In the history, yeah. Yeah. They said, Jerry Rice said, they said, rank cornerbacks that were good against you. And he goes, there's only two that I even thought about. Everybody else, just do whatever you want to. He said, literally, just do whatever you want to anybody. He goes, except for Dion and Rod Woodson.

He goes, everybody else is. And yeah, he goes, and Charles Woodson later on, he said, was good too. Everybody else sucked. There's Rod, Dion, and everybody else. That's it. He said, everybody else, you just do it wherever you want to them. It wasn't even a thought of who was over there. It didn't matter.

Just a fucking body in a uniform that I'm going to shit on here. What an enjoyable way to live your life. Got to be that good at something. When you're talented. Yeah. Must be great. Number 26 overall, speaking of the state of Michigan, Jim Harbaugh from the Bears. Is that right?

To the Bears at quarterback there from Michigan. And then the last, oh, Denver, by the way, picked up Ricky Natil that year. Okay. I know you remember him, the wide receiver for Denver. Big fan. Number 28, last pick of the first round, the New York Giants select Mark Ingram as wide receiver. Yep.

See, the world champion New York Giants, too. They won the championship the year before, so they get the last pick. They pick him, and they could use a little pop in the passing game, the Giants. They weren't a real down-the-field type of team. No, that was beating the Broncos that year. Oh, that. Yeah, I remember that.

After that, though, second round here, this is not a real stocked draft when it comes to Hall of Famers. In the first two rounds, there's one Hall of Famer. Just Rod. And that's Rod Woodson. Yeah, everybody else. You've got guys like Nate Odoms and guys like that. Good players that were around a long time, but not like, holy shit, that guy. That guy's phenomenal.

Mark Carrier, the wide receiver, not the very good cornerback or safety. So he's drafted. He's in the first round. Honestly, going at the end of the first round could be worse i mean you go earlier and you get better money but you go to a terrible team sure yeah vinny testaverti is getting a lot of money but he's gonna get the shit beaten out of him and win like six games in the next five years so if you don't know when crystal pepsi was discontinued what was in al capone's vault or which famous meteorologist is Lenny Kravitz's second cousin, then you haven't spent enough time on Wikipedia.

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Only on Freebie. Not a lot of fun. They're going to make him pray to play in Cleveland, for Christ's sake. Yeah, to play in Cleveland and everywhere else he ends up. The Jets. He's going to think the Jets are a good decision after that. It's better than Tampa. Yeah.

And then also there's not a lot of pressure on – you're coming into a world championship team. So they're not expecting you to, oh, our first-round pick. Testaverde's expected to turn a franchise around. We're at the top. We're at the pinnacle. This guy's expected to run a pretty decent down-the-field route on third downs. That's pretty much being a pretty good slot guy. That's really all they're expecting out of him.

Just don't cost us that game against the Cowboys later this year. Yeah, if we throw it to you, don't fucking drop it, please. There it is. And Ingram, if I'm not mistaken, I'm 99% sure that he put together one of the best first down getting plays I've ever seen in the Super Bowl against the Bills. He caught a ball short of the first down by, you know, I think it was like a third and 12,

and he caught it like, you know i think it was like a you know third and twelve and he he caught it like you know six yards down the field and like did this twisting turning somehow got to the first down thing that saved the game for the giants very underrated play and i'm 99 sure that's what happened so there he is he's sitting on top of the world yeah grace that's number one that That's Grace. He's going to play in the Super Bowl, and this is Grace. This is definitely Grace because at this point, pretty much like a week after the draft, we hear about some shit that he did in 1985. What did you do?

And the headline of this article is, Mark Ingram, Giants top pick, gets a grip on his life. That's not good. No. That's bad here. They said, at the time, he recalled it, gets a grip on his life. That's not good. No. That's bad here. They said at the time, he recalled, it seemed like a harmless thing to do. I'm intrigued. What was it? But after 24 days in a Michigan jail, Mark Ingram realized he had made the biggest mistake of his life.

Yeah. What was it? That's not great. Two years ago, the Michigan State wide receiver walked into an unlocked campus dormitory room and stole a wallet containing $5 and a credit card. What? That seemed like a good thing to do? That seemed like a harmless thing to do. Burglary seems harmless. Yeah.

That's normal. Walked into an unlocked room and pilfered things hey everybody if you're about to commit burglary because you think it feels like a harmless thing to do don't fucking do it because it's not harmless you'll be sitting in a jail for 24 days no one 24 days for for five dollars and a credit card this is when he was a junior by the way he was caught though probably using the credit card and was sentenced to you sir may fuck off 90 days in jail he got for that holy he must have used the credit card yeah he had to have used the credit card five dollars isn't going to cut it no you know that's not he could have got patreon but

instead he's going to jail that's how it works here could have heard the story could have heard some fun shit uh ingram said, I'm not glad it happened. Well, no shit you're not glad it happened. I bet you don't even care that it happened. I bet you're not glad you got caught. No. Well, lucky for him, he had another year to play football to make everyone forget about it. Because if that happened after his senior year, that would have been tough on the draft.

He said, it made me mature a lot. If there's a silver lining, it's that I learned my lesson. There it is. I want to tell you also, he absolutely did not learn his lesson. No? No, no. So he had a penchant for burglary? Everything he does has like a whiff and a stink of this exact bullshit behind it.

He's a moron. A lot of stealing out in the open and shit like that he's an idiot so he was convicted of breaking and entering his sentence was reduced to 30 days in jail and three years probation after he agreed to pay 20 restitution to the victim he took a credit card for 20 dollars he filled his tank up with gas that's what he did yeah and that was that idiot and then he's going to jail for that 20 on two please wow uh he can't leave this he couldn't leave the state of michigan without permission and uh and also to graduate he was doing that and uh ingram was given a jail term because he was on

larceny probation from a previous incident that they don't have documentation of wow yes so the details were not available of that incident after serving 24 days at the ingham ingham i guess county prison in mason michigan he they permitted him to return to school and the coach said this is his coach george perlis hair turning silver as he speaks right he's like 22 yards a catch i don't give a fuck i'll give that kid 20 bucks i don't care yeah whatever uh quote it was a dorm room it was unlocked he took it and he paid dearly for it he admitted it he said he was sorry he didn't hide anything we end it we end it right there that's it

he's a good guy shit happens kids do dumb things um so they said that carl banks who was his teammate at michigan state and was a great linebacker for the giants it was banks and lt were nasty back in the day he said that he's going to keep a close eye on ingram while he's in new york oh don't you worry about it he said i'm gonna keep a close eye on them in the biggest city yeah now that we're gonna give him like a million dollars and let him loose in the biggest city in America where everything's open 24 hours a day I got him and he's on the world champion New York Giants I can't imagine he'd get in any trouble yeah you know what all the

linebackers will take LT he'll take him at night. That'll keep him out of trouble. Are you kidding me? Oh, we got way worse guys here. Don't worry about it. Yeah. That's insane. He said, Mark will go crazy if he's locked up at home. He's active, and I have to show him some things.

He likes to party, and if he's going to party, he might as well do it with me, I guess you're saying, and not just out doing shit. He's not a big hellraiser. He's a kid. I think he'll do well with me i guess you say they're not just out doing shit he's not a big hellraiser he's a kid i think he'll do well with me cracking the whip if he gets out of line i'll tell his mother on him oh that's what he said yeah he thinks his mom matters i guess so they actually went to his mother katherine after her arrest and she declined comment after her arrest after his arrest oh okay line comment oh jesus god leon the father though said that the incident brought the family together oh well then thank god why would well that's actually what he does next he actually does thank god quote we're a very religious family

i think it made mark grow we knew the lord would work things out we had a lot of faith thank god so they actually did thank god for larceny thank god for that person's invasion of their space and privacy and chronic holy shit the giants say they have faith that ingram can bolster their receiving core so they don't really give a shit, honestly. Because their leading receiver the last year was Mark Bavaro, who's a tight end, who shouldn't be your leading receiver. Nowadays, maybe, but back then,

tight ends weren't your leading receiver. That's generally your dump-off guy because everybody else was covered. That meant you're going over the middle because your receivers can't get any separation. And Bavaro, there could be three guys on him over the middle because your receivers can't get any separation. And Bavaro, there could be three guys on him over the middle. They dump it off and they bounce off him. He was just a big, giant

fucking guinea, scary bastard. He's the guy that Parcells said he was afraid of. When he was a rookie, he goes, see that Bavaro guy? He goes, wouldn't want to run into him in an alley, huh? Jesus Christ. He's a stone-faced son of a bitch, isn't he? He's like, that fucking guy is tough.

But, you know, still shouldn't be leading the team in receiving. The leading receiver the year before for the team, leading wide receiver, had 534 yards. Wow. Yeah, the Giants were not great going down the field. They really weren't. Mark said, I'm just looking to make a contribution. That's it.

So Parcell said he's got good speed. He's elusive. He's run some pretty good track times this spring. I hope he can help us out there. No doubt. That's all. So July 31st, 87, he's ready to play, ready to practice. He's got his contract all signed, and he says that he hopes he has better luck catching passes than checking his luggage.

It's a little luggage problem. Uh-oh. What happened? Yeah. His luggage, he flew from Michigan to Newark, and none of his luggage showed up. Oh. So, yeah, he showed up. He's got nothing.

He said, I checked four bags, and I had to go back to the airport to get them the next day. Not one of them showed up. Nothing showed up. Not one of checked four bags and I had to go back to the airport to get them the next day. All of, not one of them showed up. Nothing showed up. Not, not one of his four bags. They all went somewhere else. He, uh, he signed a four year, $1.25 million deal, which was good for an end of the first round wide receiver back then. And he didn't show up at training camp Thursday morning. Didn't tell anybody why.

Didn't tell Parcells. It's the first day of training camp or second day or something. It's your first day of your job. And, yes, so nobody knew where he was. But Ingram, I guess his bags were mixed up and that's what he had to do. He had to go to the airport to get all of his shit. But he should have made a phone call. He only got three of them Thursday.

Oh? to get all of his shit. But he should have made a phone call. He only got three of them Thursday. The problem is the fourth one is the one with his cleats and his football shit in it. So they couldn't find that one. You have to bring your own cleats when you play for the New York football giants. You don't have to, but your practice cleats. Guys have practice cleats they like that are broken in a certain way. Yeah, because it's hot out there. They're running around running around he said i had to get a new pair for practice he was waiting at the airport for four hours while they looked for his bags where are they looking

imagine okay imagine first of all when someone loses your bags it's fucking enraging okay yeah now imagine sitting at the newark airport for four hours while people incompetently try to find your shit. And you know that Bill Parcells is getting madder by the minute. You know it. You know he's getting pissed off. And you get there. You're like, oh, fuck. He's going to give it to me bad.

He's going to have Carl Banks clothesline me. This is terrible. He could have made it to L.A. in that amount of time, for Christ's sake. He could have flown back and forth to Michigan again. It's ridiculous here. So they said that he looked good out there. They said they expect big things. Mark said, quote, I want to start.

I have some things I want to prove. I want to prove I can play in this league. Wants to start? Is that insulting as your first day there doesn't you know i mean you haven't even fit in yet you're telling somebody to take your job at the same time you wouldn't want that from an offensive tackle i feel like no but from a wide receiver they're a different breed and they have to live a different you have to say that but yeah you want that out of your wide receiver.

You want them to go, I'm the fastest, baddest motherfucker in this fucking world. That's how wide receivers have to be. But you're coming into the practice facility of the guys that just did it all. Yeah. No, no, no. It's true. All these guys are champions. By the way, I'm taking your jobs. No one has 600 yards in that receiving corps.

So at that point, you you go everyone says that's the only weak spot on the team so it's like well i'd like to start because fuck this place yeah and i did have 600 yards last year and we didn't throw it hardly at all either yeah and if you're like parcells you go well yeah what are you gonna say i want to play i want to ride the bench i want a guy who wants to start i'd really like to sit and watch yeah you want all your guys to want to start ideally yeah you want some guys going i'm making an easy paycheck here that's not the guy you want I'd really like to sit and watch. You want all your guys to want to start, ideally. Yeah. You don't want some guys going, I'm making an easy paycheck here.

That's not the guy you want on the team. I'm just a big fan, and I started playing football so that I could get the best view of the game. And they give me free shirts. It's pretty cool. Free shirts. All the Gatorade I can drink. It's as much as I want. And if we win, I can pour it on the coach.

It's great. So 86 Giants, by the way, invented that that the gatorade dump is that right carl banks was the guy who he invented it carl banks was the guy who did it first he's the guy who started dumping it on parcells over the season then parcells started looking for it so they'd have to hide him and he'd come up and sneak up on him it was a because it was the only time parcellels couldn't get mad because they just won so he'd have to be like yeah you fucking assholes it's 12 degrees and you just dumped ice cold gatorade on me but thanks yeah we won great yeah i got gatorade frozen to my armpit hair thank you they still do it and it's that's where it came from the 86 giants yeah did that and and a lot of coaches

still try to evade it and oh yeah yeah take it you're not getting away just take it they used to do it back in the day they get like the big coats and like someone would hold it up and carl banks would walk behind it like a curtain and then the guys would like move the coat and he'd pop out and dump it on for ourselves at the last second like they really got theatric about it over the course of the season it was fun there's a sure there's a super cut on youtube of it. It's fucking hilarious. Yeah. So Ingram says,

right now I'm not concerned about the competition. I'm concerned about Mark Ingram. He's already in the third person. He's already Ricky Henderson. He hasn't made a snap in the NFL. No, he's not even born yet, I don't think. Possibly not. He said, if I put everything together, I know I can play in this league.

Okay. Sometime around this time, not sure exactly when, he gets married to a woman named Shonda. Yeah. So he'll marry her. So 87, the Giants, coming off a Super Bowl winning season of one of the best defenses of all time. They were nasty shit. They go six and nine this year. Oh, no.

The strike also fucked everything up. Yeah. All sorts of shit. It must have made players leave, right, because of the contracts? Just guys came in at different times, and then there was guys that hadn't been playing, and then they went from sitting on their couch for the last like you know yeah eight months to playing in an nfl game some of the teams had guys that came back earlier so they were more together and it was it was a totally just a big mess the 87 season this is uh six and nine under bill parcells phil sims at quarterback lt on the team all that kind

of shit uh mark we'll find out here, doesn't play that much. He only plays in nine games, doesn't start any, has two receptions for 32 yards. So not exactly setting the world on fire. No, he didn't impress anybody. In year one. 1988 Giants, they go 10-6. Decent team here

not too bad but not really great that was the year I believe they lost to the Rams in the playoffs if I'm thinking here same team here they kept this team together for a long time this year he starts 4 games only plays in 7 though

starts for 13 receptions for 158 yards and one touchdown. Okay. Not exactly, again, the center of the offense here, I would say. Not good at all. 89-12-4, the Giants go. There you go. This is when they lost to the Rams.

I'm sorry. They lost to the Rams 19-13 in the playoff, and that was, I believe, a bullshit pass interference call on Mark Collins, I want to say, over the middle. Yes, I believe that was the. Jim Everett? Jim Everett, yeah. Fucking Jim Everett.

Yeah, he sucked. He really sucked, man. Yeah. So that year, December 21st, 1989, his son is born. That's it. Mark Ingram Jr. Yeah. He can can call himself too he's a fucking junior shut up junior is he is he valentino that's a junior it's it's gotta be he's mark ingram fucking second yeah that's a junior yeah he this he's born in new hack or not new hackensack just

hackensack new jersey and his mother is his wife. So not the son's wife. Yeah, it's Shonda. It's Shonda. He didn't marry his birth mother. That would have been weird. Yeah. So he plays in all 16 games this year. Only starts three.

17 receptions, 290 yards, one touchdown. 17.1 per reception, though, so he's the deep threat. That's pretty good, yeah. He is the deep threat. 1990 Giants, this was a fun season they go 13 and 3 this year and i remember their losses because they lost to san francisco on monday night when both teams were 10 and 0 coming into the game wow which is that was cool that's a fun monday night game and they lost seven to six that was the fucking oh god that was the game yeah

phil sims got in a fight with ron Ronnie Lott after the last play of the game. It was fun. And they lost to the Bills later on, I believe, too. So they go 13-3. That's when Phil Simms got hurt and Jeff Hostetler came in. Beat the Bears in the divisional round 31-3. The championship game against the Niners, probably one of the best games I've ever seen in my life there. That was the one where Leonard Marshall exploded Joe Montana

and knocked him out for two years, and then he came back on the Chiefs. That's how bad he – he knocked him to the Midwest. He knocked him into the Midwest. That was pretty impressive. Gave him a taste for barbecue is what he did. But that was 15-13 last-second kick for the Giants. It was fucking beautiful. And then they beat the Bills in maybe one of the other better games

I've ever seen in my life, 2019. And I believe that was the big play for Mark Ingram where he really stretched a play out into a first down that saved the game, honestly. There's a bunch of plays like that. In a 2019 game, you're going to get... Every play is fucking very important. Yeah, there's a lot of

plays that are super fucking important uh he starts all three playoff games that season by the way and has 11 receptions for 168 yards in the playoffs so they not bad parcells trusted trusted him somehow here in the playoffs that year he started 14 out of 16 games in the regular season 26 receptions 499 yards five touchdowns 19.2 per reception and super bowl champion and a super bowl champion so now he's got a ring he's feeling good yeah everything's great yeah it's uh in the super bowl it was him that caught it it was on third and 13 and carl bank said we got him the ball in the open field, and he just went back to the sandlot in Flint, Michigan. That's what happened here. It was third and 13 from the Buffalo 32,

and the score was 12-10 Bills at that point. So they needed this. They needed it bad. Hostetler completed a short pass to Ingram, who had to get another fucking 10 yards or 8 yards out of this. Haas-Stettler did him no favors is basically what happened. He just dumped it to him. Shit, this is all I got.

Do something. Yeah, please. He broke a tackle, then spun. The guy had him locked up. It was like, oh, he's dead, and he just spun, and he was free. It was the weirdest fucking thing ever. That was short of the 20. Then he faked a guy out, did a juke, and then got wrapped spun and he was free. It was the weirdest fucking thing ever. That was short of the 20. Then he faked a guy out,

did a juke and then got wrapped up and spun free again. And then somehow while a guy was tackling him, squirted forwarding stretch for the first time. It was honestly like, it was like in a movie. Like, yeah, you'd be like,

Oh, come on. That guy would attack me. That would never happen. Yeah. He's not going to bounce off like those things over the course of a game, but not on one play, a guy doing all this shit. It really looked scripted.

It was fucking incredible. So it made it possible for them to go ahead and score a touchdown that put them ahead, that saved the game. So 1991, no more Bill Parcells. They bring in this drip named Ray Hanley, who was just a big sack of turds. He looked like... There was an interim coach in between Parcells, and who was next?

Dan Reeves, after this, you're thinking of. Reeves, that's it. Yeah, Reeves came in after... Hanley's a huge failure. Like, you know at Dairy Queen, they put soft-serve ice cream in, and it just comes and it piles up, and then it's a little turd thing, a little swirly on top. That's this man with shit. He's a cone of soft serve shit that's got a little swirly do on top.

Well, where the hell did he come from? Because they didn't just hire the crossing guard as head coach. I believe they did. Was he the offensive coordinator first? No, no, no. He was coordinator other places. He was around. He's a coach, but they decided to give him a shot.

He's a different kind of coach than Parcells, too. The guy's got a little burned out of being yelled at. But Parcells quit. He retired. Went out on top. So they go 8-8 that year and don't go to the playoffs. Ouch. Yeah, and also Belichick left and all that kind of shit, too.

He went to Cleveland and everything like that. So this year, too, they were fucking with Phil Simms. Their quarterback situation was weird. Mark starts 13 games, plays in all 16, career-high 51 receptions for 824 yards and three touchdowns. Okay. Every year of his career, he's had more receptions and yards than the year before. So he's doing okay, but he's not setting the world on fire. But then, again, he's a guy when he can leave the Giants,

they're going to be interested in him because none of the receivers do well in this offense. It's a running offense. It's just a ball control offense. And he's probably the three receiver also, or fourth. He's not number one. Yeah, he's in the top two, I think, because it was like Stephen Baker, I think, was there, and he was big on them. And then they got, who'd they get from the Broncos? They get Mark Clayton around this time, too, I believe.

Or not from the Broncos, from the Dolphins. I believe they picked somebody up. So 92 Giants, 6-10 that year. believe they picked somebody up so 92 giants six and ten that year again just you know it's all about uh ray handley yeah yeah ray handley's a mess and this this was a boring team to watch too not not fun at all so this year he plays in 12 games starts all 12 had 27 receptions for 408 yards so going down a little bit the next year he's going to end up in miami okay so 93 finally for you've had this mess with phil sims and haas detler and this ball control offense and now you're going to go down to miami out of the arena yeah out of the windy

the wind of the meadowlands too that's why it's bad for passing at the meadowlands because it's windy as fuck there and they swirl. Balls get knocked around. And at that stadium, too, the way the drainage went, the middle of the field was much higher than the sides of the field. Okay. So if you rolled right as a quarterback and looked left and you had a 5'10 receiver, you'd only see his head because it was a big mound between you. The field is like a fucking road. Yeah. It's not meant for a great passing offense to take place there shoulders yeah it's tough 93 though you go down to miami you got the you know warm weather dan marino tossing around beaches oh boy now you're on to something

they go nine and seven that year and miss the playoffs, though. But still, it's got to be a decent life down there for you, I would say. Not bad. I think Dave – oh, no, that was a different guy. I was going to say, is Dave Meggett on this team? But it was a guy named Dave Merritt, so a different guy. 93, he starts all 16 games for the first time in his career, has 44 receptions for 707 yards and six touchdowns. Wow.

So does much better with Dan Marino throwing him the ball. Shocker. Next year they go 10-6 for winning the division. They beat the Chiefs in the wild card round. I believe that's the end of Joe Montana's career. I think he played to 94. And Derek Thomas is about to die? He dies in like 99, I believe, Derek Thomas.

Oh, okay. So he's got a little while. Yeah. He's got a few more years left before he'll perish in a terrible car accident, tragically. Horrible way to die. Jesus Christ. That was bad. That's crazy that he could die at all.

He was so big and so powerful. I remember that came on the news. I was like, that's weird. Is that right? Yeah. Derek Thomas? That's not right, right? How big was the car that hit him for christ's sake that's what i mean he must have jesus wow how the hell did he do that that's weird i remember thinking was that intentional did he do that on purpose like how does that guy die yeah it's strange so they lose to the chargers

21 22 in the next round of the playoffs so that's how. So that's how that goes. That's how that goes. Still, he's doing okay. In a game against the Jets, he caught four touchdown passes. Ingram does. Is that right? In one game, yeah, which is pretty impressive. That can't have been done many times in the NFL at that point. Four TD catches in one game?

Yeah, that's a lot. This is a famous game. The biggest of these catches was the game-winning touchdown because it was a high-scoring game. This was the famous Dan Marino pretending to spike the ball and then throwing it for a touchdown. Oh, and then flipping it, yeah. The famous fake spike that's like they play it all the time.

Anytime it's an end of a game, they play it. But he's the guy who caught the touchdown pass off the Jets there jets there so uh that was a fun play so uh a lot of a lot of good shit here he says marino said it was one of the most satisfying wins he ever had in his life so that's trickery yeah why not in 1994 he made 1.2 million dollars as well wow not too shabby. Had six touchdowns over the course of the regular season. 506 yards. Same exact amount of receptions as the year before, 44. March 21, 1995, traded by the Dolphins to the Green Bay Packers. Really?

For a fourth-round pick. So not too much there. So he goes to the Packers. He's going to do it again, isn't he? He's going to go on another team here. Well, we'll find out if he gets there. The 95 Packers almost make the Super Bowl. Yeah.

If you remember, they beat the Falcons in the wild card round. They went 11-5 in the regular season. Beat the Niners 27-17. Wow. And they were the Super Bowl champs from the year before. And then lose in the conference championship 38-27 to Dallas, which, fuck them. They went on to beat Pittsburgh in the Super Bowl out in Phoenix there. In Arizona, yeah.

At ASU there, Sun Devil Stadium. Yikes. Oh, fuck. And you, what a, ew. The reward is to play there? Well, the worst thing, imagine paying like three grand to sit on a metal fucking bleacher bench i'd be fucking livid i don't even get a chair for three grand this guy's touching me next to me his fat hip is fucking touching me some fuck from North Carolina sat in those bleachers like, this is the Super Bowl?

This man's sweat is on my shirt. I paid $3,000 for this. Unbelievable. I would lose my mind if that happened. Excuse me, ushers, where are my seats? Because they've just put down some metal for me to sit on. I bought a chair. This is just a plank.

And it's a metal plank, too. It's just a metal plank. It has a number sticker on it. I don't know what that is. Where does my seat end and this one begin is my question. Because even on Spirit Airlines, there's a divider between the seats. Help me. I just put my asshole on the number and hope his is smaller than mine what

what is this this is not a solution i could fly around the world five times on spirit for this money this is ridiculous with an actual seat you with a seat cheap sons of bitches so you treat college students like that is that right okay all right wow thanks a Thanks a lot. Real nice. This is no wonder why. This is why you guys don't get a stadium because you treat people like this. We're from out of town. We're guests. No wonder why ASU doesn't get any fucking interest from anybody else. This place sucks.

So Green Bay that year, he has a decent year, I guess. He only starts nine games, so doesn't start them all. 39 catches, 469 yards, and three touchdowns. So he's, again, never lighting the world on fire. Just very average, but he hangs in there. He does not hang on for their championship season the next year. No, they move him, huh? Yep, he ends up in Philly the next year.

He goes to the Eagles, who are 10-6 that year. God, he's always on 10-6 teams. Always. They lost 14-0 to the Niners in the wildcard round in the playoffs. He knows what it's like to win. He does. Yeah, he's won a Super Bowl, and he was a big part of it. He was a hero.

Not so much. It's going to be depressing if he ever plays for a shitty team, because how do you play for a shit team when you're used to going 10 and 6 every goddamn season every goddamn year yeah 3 and 13 would be tough for him college was his worst time that was you know that wasn't great so for philly that year he only plays in five games and starts zero two receptions for 33 yards they don't even use him and he retires at the end of the season yeah if you're a small wide receiver and you lose a half a fucking half a whatever second on your 40 time you're fucked i mean that's it if you go from a four four four four to a four six and you're

five ten sure you don't really have a lot of have any have any bit of reaction time pulled off either because he's been hit. Fuck, man. This is a time when the receiver got clobbered and he played in. Oh, over the middle. You got popped. Fuck, man. And he played in New York. He played in Miami.

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They do that with Elway. Right. It's like, are you joking? Watch a fucking game and watch what he had to do compared to now when you're like you just throw the ball guys allowed to catch it and run four fucking steps before someone can tackle him and not just that the talent of of receivers has it seems like gone but they're bigger than the roof man yes they're huge they're just so good

and good john elway did name name seven receivers that john elway threw to you know what i mean yeah exactly it's very hard he didn't have great there weren't a lot of great guys there no no there wasn't he had to do it the they named the three amigos weren't even good receivers that's because you couldn't remember any of their goddamn names that was the point yeah Yeah. It's not good. And today you've got, fuck, I could probably name 15 incredible receivers. Oh, God, tons. That's crazy. Damn it, that's who the Giants got in 92. It was Mark Jackson from the Broncos.

Oh, really? Not Mark Clayton from the Dolphins. Mark Jackson from the Broncos. Okay, thank you. I didn't realize he played for New York. Yeah, he went there. I remember him playing when he was washed up, basically. Right before HBO.

And everyone went, wow, wow, you're probably a better receiver when John Elway's throwing at you, we just realized. As opposed to fucking Jeff Hostetler. It was a little different. So Ingram retires after 128 games in the league. so ingram retires after 128 games in the league he has 265 receptions for three uh 3 926 yards 14.8 per reception and 26 touchdowns that's his whole career so years or so eight years yeah what was it one two three four five six oh no it was 10 years 10 10 years but that shortened season okay yeah 10 seasons so he retires after retiring he does what most people do after retirement. Jimmy, it's what our plans are.

You know what our plans are for when we eventually retire from the podcast? We are going to move to the Bahamas to start open and run a shady clothing business. That's our plan, and he stole it, and I'm pissed about that. That's our exit plan. Is that that's all right that's what he did he went to the bahamas to run a very shady clothing business that went out of business and didn't make any money and there was like legal clouds over it and i don't know if he was like enslaving people to fucking force them to stitch things yeah so i guess all right well bahama man uh clothing is not going to

happen, huh? Not going to happen. I hope he was making like Hawaiian shirts too down there. That's what I picture. They all got pineapples. That would be great. But either way, what he's not doing, we know he's making clothes, we know he's hanging out, but what he's definitely not doing is paying his child support.

That's a problem. Oh, what? Because September 11th, 1999, he's arrested in Florida as a deadbeat dad. That is his September 11th. September 11th was bad for me on a couple of notes. It was ruined for me long ago. I got a preview of it two years earlier when I was arrested in Jersey City and arraigned in Florida on a Hudson County warrant for failure to make good on $200,000 in delinquent child support payments. Mark.

He owes a house worth of child support payments. That's a lot. That's high child support, right? He hasn't paid it in years. He's never paid it. He's never paid it. He's never paid it. And it probably, I assume, is still based on his NFL salary. He probably hasn't gotten it adjusted.

So it's probably stacking and stacking and stacking. And there's interest. And interest and everything else. So this is an issue, obviously. It's a problem. Holy fuck. So much so that he's held without bail at the Broward County Jail. You owe so much money, we're not even going to let you leave to go get the money.

Oh, I could go home, but I owe too much money to go home. My kids are hungry, so I'm here. That's what I'm here for. There's having an extradition hearing and all that kind of shit um they said that this arrest was the first time the hudson county sheriff's department sought ever sought to extradite a deadbeat parent from out of state usually usually that keeps you at bay just don't come into the state he said we're going to go after these out-of-state deadbeats who obviously have the means to support their children they're saying he owes so much they're like this is

above and beyond this isn't he you know he owes seven grand or something this is literally a house yeah he could sign over like a whole house to her and that might cover it so that's a lot of people work that for their whole life to earn that much money to buy a house and a car that's so much money. Well, he's arrested at his house in Fort Lauderdale. They come to his house and just get him. His house that he lives in, by the way, at the time, back then, valued at $750,000. You son of a bitch.

That's a mansion in Florida back then. It's a crazy house. He's living in a fucking mansion owing $200,000 sitting there. He also has... Can't live in a $300,000, $400,000 house and pay your child support? Jesus Christ, man. He also needs a brand new

1999 Ford Expedition and a brand new 1999 BMW as well. He's got his driveway. Huge house, expensive cars, flashy shit and he's not paying his child support. Poor Mark, too. He's like, do I pay? I can pay for my kids to have health care and stuff.

Or that new Beamer's pretty nice. Have you heard of the Expedition? It's the same as the Cadillac Escalade, but made by Ford. Yeah, it's a little different. We're going to do it. It shows this isn't even for Mark Ingram Jr. This is another kid? This is for a six-year-old daughter who lives with her mother in Hudson County in the town of Gutenberg.

Idiot. He was ordered to pay $750 a week, so three grand a month in 1999. Whoa. But those payments haven't been made for more than four years. He stopped paying when she was two. That's enough.

Wow. That should last. That should hold him. Okay. So November 7th, 2000, he goes on drumroll Jimmyroll jimmy the mori povich show oh wow he wants no shit he's not the dad did you pull that out did you know that i know i just guessed right now thinking he wants to do a father thing yeah roll that back a second i just said he went on and out of everything he could have went on i could have said a space shuttle to the moon.

I could have said he went on a tirade in a public fucking subway. You could have said Splash Mountain. I could have said Splash Mountain. I could have said Sally Jessie Raphael. I could have said Ricky Lake. I could have said Jerry Springer. You could have said Weight Watchers. Anything.

Nice sad Maury Poe. I could have said on about some bullshit it could have been anything anything Jimmy said without I hope everybody caught that without a fucking hesitation he said Maury Povich yeah and then I went yeah Maury Povich. How'd you know that? And then he didn't go, holy fuck. How did I guess that? Of every possible thing that someone could be on. I could have said on morphine, on birth control, anything in the world. On about some bullshit. About some bullshit. And you just said Maury Povich and didn't find that interesting.

Didn't even bat an eye. You kept going, and I went, hold on, did you say Maury Povich? And you were like, yeah, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, wait a second. Did you know this already? No. How the fuck did you guess that? It was magic.

Where did you get that from? You led me down the path of not being the father. I guess it wasn't that he wasn't the father. It was he didn't make payments. I didn't say he was swiping his sheet. That's why he's going there? Because he didn't make payments? Well, that's what you'd imagine.

But no, it's actually, it turns out that it's not even him on the show. Oh, what? Okay, back it up. What happened? There's a man named Aaron Williams. Uh-huh. And apparently, okay, there was someone, he ended up in a party where a Grammy-winning jazz singer named Diane Shore had an entourage that was with her going into the party. And he just slipped in the entourage and went into this party and act like he was a part of it so he introduced himself around as mark ingram the wide receiver oh get

the fuck out of here he just picked mark ingram out of the air i guess maybe he looks like him or he's you know i don't know same size 510 does like a little juke move. He's like, see that? See, I'm Mark Ingram. Look at that. See Heisman pose? To Carl Griffin of GPA Records. Okay. Griffin referred Mark Ingram, quote unquote, to friends he had on the Maury Povich show. Oh, my God. So the producers booked him in a show devoted to the title of sports groupies

so it was a show where they're going to get athletes on to talk about groupies and groupies are going to come on talk about why they do it and that's the whole point he's gonna be marty he goes on the show yeah he's on stage this guy will, chatting, talking about groupies and all this shit, doing the whole thing. During this time, a producer who just was doing their homework now, a little bit late, contacted the Giants and discovered that Ingram, this isn't Mark Ingram. They know that because they called Mark Ingram and he was at his house in Detroit. And they said, is this Mark Ingram? Yeah. The wide receiver?

Yeah, motherfucker. Yeah. Who's this? They're like, you're not on the Maury Povich show right now? He's like, what? Who says I'm the father? Fuck that. Tell me about groupies.

Will you talk to us about groupies? Please. Yeah. Will you talk to us about groupies? Please? Yeah. So the show spokeswoman here, Linda Littman, said, when we called Griffin to tell him, you could hear his jaw hit the ground.

So that's what they said. So they were like, your guy that you referred to us is not the guy who you referred to us. And he was on the show. Yeah, we filmed like a whole. We had to throw the fucking show out and redo it it we filmed like half the show with this idiot talking about shit we had seven fights we're pissed yeah he threw a chair of it yeah he hit a stripper in the face with a folding chair this is for no reason now can't air a second of it you fucking jerk what a mess january 26th, 2001. This is fun from the Miami Herald.

Ex-Dolphin takes a new hit is the deal here. Now he's on some bullshit. Now he's on some bullshit. Well, what he's on is, and there's a picture of it, he's on a closed circuit TV screen during his bond hearing is what he's on. Oh, Jesus. Oh, for the deadbeat dad stuff. No, this is for something else. What the fuck, man it's all gonna fall apart now it's it's downhill from here so he allegedly acquired eleven thousand dollars in counterfeit money oh let's fuck with the secret service now that's what i want to fuck with. That's who handles that. $11,000? $11,000 on a recent trip to New York.

This is an affidavit in federal court said. Another guy, Alan Knoll, was arrested with him for grand theft auto. It told investigators that Ingram asked Knoll if he knew where the counterfeit bills could be exchanged for real currency. I knew it was fake, yeah. He knew it was fake. He asked Knoll if he would help in distributing the bills to department stores or banks. Oh, God, Jesus.

Yeah, go and buy a pack of gum with a 50 and get real money back here. Get change. They found $3,209 in counterfeit bills in Mark Ingram's pockets after they arrested him for driving a stolen Ford Expedition. Oh, my God. He has a Ford Expedition. Why is he driving a stolen? I like this one better. Fuck you. I should have got it in white. Yes. What the fuck here? He's awaiting a federal bond hearing for 18 counts of possession of federal of counterfeit bills, he posted his bond. So he's got bond money, but he doesn't have child support money.

He said, dressed in a gray T-shirt and blue leather jacket, a grim-faced Ingram appeared on closed-circuit television Thursday during the bond hearing. Grim. It's very grim. Grim-faced. Grim Ingram now. He said, Ingram told the judge, uh quote i don't know what's going on your honor judge was like you had fake money yeah that's what's going on i know what's going on yeah ingram told his attorney though this is great this is where it really gets fun he really

becomes really fun for the next hour here he told his attorney thursday that the ford expedition belonged to who jimmy you should let it roll off your tongue maury povich lawrence taylor this is lt's expedition which will only get search charter at that point i believe oh fuck well we gotta take the wheel wells off and shit there's got to be coke in here somewhere. Yeah, don't say it's his, man. Anybody else but his. And his golf clubs and other belongings belonging to LT were discovered inside the car. So did he steal from LT?

I don't know if he stole. He had played golf with Lawrence Taylor in weston on monday but was borrowing the car without knowing it had been stolen is what ingram's attorney said they played golf and then he borrowed the car but didn't know that that lt reported it stolen okay did he know you were borrowing it that's the question of that's whether you're stealing it or not if someone's sure yeah did you leave the golf course with it? Why was all his golf shit in it still? He just took his car.

They went golfing, and LT was like, I'm going to the 19th hole. And the tie went on, and he was like, okay, cool. And then just took his car and drove away. I'm going to go on home. All right, I'll see you around then. I'm going to play another round. Enjoy your day. LT's got to walk around in golf cleats for the rest of the day because the sneakers are in the back of his truck.

He walked home click clacking, man. Click, click, click, click, click. So that's what his attorney said. He didn't know that it had been. He borrowed the car without knowing it had been stolen. So according to Ingram here, LT didn't lend him the truck. The truck was stolen, and then he borrowed it after someone stole it. Somebody had already stolen it from him.

This is what his attorney said. I borrowed it from the guy that stole it. Yeah, I borrowed it from the guy that stole it from my friend who I played golf with, and I kept all of his stuff. This is why I could never be a lawyer, because a lawyer or a politician, I couldn't take one fact and go, how do I twist this to my advantage to mean the opposite of what the actual obvious truth is. Right. I couldn't do that. When you know the person you're representing is wrong, how the fuck do you make them right?

That's the thing. Well, this is how you do it. Or at least right enough that it doesn't – right enough that you can sleep at night like i don't know how i don't know how you do it i don't know how right enough that you can at least think in your own mind that you're not the father you know what i mean right enough right enough to make that cash worth keeping so his lawyer said quote he was a victim of circumstance. That's how you do it. That's how you do that. That is amazing.

That's fucking awesome. He said, I can only tell you that once he calls back, we'll talk to him. I don't know why he hasn't returned calls, meaning Lawrence Taylor. Yeah. If LT would just call and say that it's cool that Mark Ingram has this, it's totally fine. So I don't even know why we're here. Perhaps that's why he hasn't called back because it's not fucking cool. It's totally not cool here.

How did he require, by the way, this is fucking fun. The tag on the expedition was not registered. But with the VIN number, the police identified the car as a budget rental car stolen from a miami gas station in december 1999 not lawrence taylor's ford expedition unless lt which i wouldn't put it past him but we did an episode and i don't remember the episode where he stole a ford expedition from a fucking miami gas station i don't remember that one so somebody was gassing up their rental car and somebody stole it from them yes i think that's what happened jesus christ that's what happened i don't know what's going on or lt was gassing up his shit and mark ingram stole it from a gas station that's the other possible thing and sold it to a rental car company and then somebody else stole it from them

then stole it from them so yeah this is from them. Yeah, this is ridiculous. I saw a thing on patrol there like two months ago where a guy stole a tricycle. A grown man stole like a large tricycle. They tracked him down. The guy ran away. Two cops chased his ass and as they go,

the tricycle was left right by the cop car. It was sitting there. By the time they got back from chasing him, they caught him. They fucking all this shit. Big thing. They're all out of breath. Someone else had stolen the tricycle was left right by the cop car was sitting there by the time they got back from chasing and they caught him they fucking all this shit big thing they're all out of breath someone else had stolen the tricycle he looks he goes where's the where's the tricycle and he starts asking neighbors he goes do you see some this tricycle and they're like i don't know and he smiles and then he gets on the radio he goes um the whole thing the reason why we're here the tricycle some it just got restolen again yeah someone else just restole it now. What is Reno 911?

This is fucking, that's exactly what it was. It was like, this is ridiculous. They come out. The way he comes out and looks, it was 100% dangle. Coming out and looking around like, oh, fuck. We left the bike sitting here. We didn't even secure it. That was dumb on our bus.

Shit. Shit. Okay. It was fucking hilarious. Release the drug lord back to the drug kingpin. Oh, God. It's so fucking funny. I'll show it to you. Shit. Okay. It was fucking hilarious. Release the drug lord back to the drug kingpin. Oh, God. It's so fucking funny. I'll show it to you.

It's hilarious. So where did he get the counterfeit bills? That's a great question. From a sale of T-shirts from his clothing manufacturer to a Jamaican client. But his lawyer says that's where he got the bill. Some Jamaicans gave it to him. He didn't know they were fake. He made a legitimate sale of his T-shirts of his highly lucrative clothing company.

They paid him in fake money. And then his friend lent him a stolen truck. This poor guy. He's a victim of circumstance. I have no idea what's happening. I mean, I can't imagine sounds either he's the unluckiest that's a terrible day is the cia following him around setting him up either that or he's just not very honest one of the two and he's really bad at crime yeah that's the thing they said he told seat T-shirts, quote, on the side.

Meanwhile, what else are you doing? You're not playing football anymore. No, no, sir. That's on the front. You're right in the front and center. Right up the middle. And they said, well, what's the name of the company that you sold the T-shirts to that gave you counterfeit money? And they said, oh, we don't know.

They paid cash. They don't know. They paid cash so that there's no invoice or anything. Yeah, it was in a parking lot behind a pizza place. Who knows? They gave me all this cash and two girls. I sold the girls. I sold the girls.

I kept the cash. The lawyer said, quote, he hasn't exactly told us that he had knowledge it was counterfeit. So when they asked whether Ingram had been in New York recently, his lawyer replied that his client made frequent trips there to visit family members. So they said, yeah, of course. He had a wife. They said he has a wife and four children up there. Oh, God, Jesus. Don't know who the other two are.

We know a daughter he doesn't pay for and a future husband. Yeah, and Mark Ingram II. So he said that Ingram was doing this Knoll guy a favor Tuesday afternoon by dropping him off at 8600 block of Northwest 41st Street, where Noel was to pick up a car left there by an employee. The car was a Dodge Durango, which had been stolen, and detectives were watching it on an anonymous tip just as Noel walked up to it and searched for the keys inside. They're like, oh, here's an idiot. Let's do this.

Hilarious. Once he found the keys, Noel walked back. Took a bait car. He took a bait car. Once he found the keys, he walked back to the expedition, got inside, and Ingram then drove him back to the Dodge. By the way, the expedition is stolen, too. Does this seem like, are you getting it now? SUVs? Both SUVs? suvs both suvs yeah this is what they're

doing here um wow that's wild so that's what's going on for mark ingram he's he's transporting a guy to steal more suvs while he is in a stolen suv and he also apparently stole more lawrence taylor's golf clubs right yeah does he still have those he still has's golf clubs. Right. Yeah. Does he still have those? He still has the golf clubs. That's the other problem. I bet he stole those back in New York years and years and years ago. Years ago. Just took them out of his locker.

LT was like, did I? Shit, I probably gave them to somebody. I don't remember where I put my clubs. I'll buy new ones. So this is hilarious. When he stopped to drop the guy back off at the stolen car, you heard that thing of golf clubs rattling in a car when you stop? Rattle against each other. You heard that. Good clubs those are nice ones oh yeah i'm sure he got him for free somewhere yeah there's some golden bears i guarantee it so he's

he's freed on 75 000 bond he posts a 75 000 u.s bond on the counterfeit cash charge but will not be allowed to travel to the bahamas for his t-shirt business okay he's like i gotta be able to travel there they're like we're not letting you out of the country moron no it's another country sir no no no no the judge said uh ingram who uh you know was a big receiver here he said he could go to new york on business quote by the most direct method but cannot travel out of the country and must surrender his passport. This is how they describe him in this article. Ingram appeared in court with a shaved head, puffy face, short beard,

gray sports t-shirt, black slacks, and handcuffs. That's a nice accessory. Yeah, that's not good. To face the complaint, which will be upgraded to an indictment in three weeks his lawyer said ingram will plead not guilty to the charge he's like i don't even know what's going on this lawyer this is very confusing uh yes so that's what he just claims he got this money from another place from this company doesn't remember the company he's an innocent victim of the whole thing and lt lent him a truck and he

doesn't know anything about anything i'm dressed like i'm hungover on sunday that's all it is yeah i'm looking like i've had a real rough week here february 15 2001 is the upgraded charge they're talking about now um the u.s attorney's office upgrades a charge uh after this he's charged with carrying that money like we said he was released on bond. The U.S. attorney, Guy A. Lewis, said no one is above the law. When you violate federal law, you'll be held accountable for your actions. Jesus Christ. And the lawyer here said he didn't have any comment.

So there's that. The Secret Service agent said that Ingram brought $11,000 in counterfeit bills. That's the total here. This could carry a possible 15-year federal prison sentence. Yeah, this is a big fucking deal. It's a bad one, yeah. They don't like it when you put fake money into the system. That could fuck everything up.

Right. Two or three hundred dollar bills sucks, but $11,000? How do you even trace that back? Who the hell knows? That's what I mean. Jesus. So March 20th, 2001 here, he is arraigned on charges that he violated his probation when he was arrested for driving a stolen SUV and possessing counterfeit money.

They figured out that he was also on probation somewhere. Jesus Christ. Like, oh, you get charged that. So that's fun here. He's arrested for that. And his second arrest violated the terms of his probation. So he's taken into custody on March 9th. Very exciting here, obviously.

So not only that, right below this, and this is hilarious hilarious a high school basketball coach was charged with smoking marijuana with four students before a state playoff game in new jersey in 1999 99 is like the kids fucking they shoot the lights out when you get a couple of puffs in them what do you want look i walked in they were smoking so i just said i'll hit it too that's it it's not like i didn't bring it oh my god adrian matthew a physical education teacher who coaches the boys varsity at lenape high school was arrested at his home um here they accused him of possessing marijuana ecstasy and drug paraphernalia at his home when he was arrested they charged him with four counts of distributing drugs from the february 28th

gathering here holy Holy shit. And also he's charged in another town where the school is located with four counts of luring or enticing children, which sounds way worse than it actually was. Sexual intentions. Yeah. He was smoking a joint with 17 year olds. That is for non-sexual purposes that all of we know anyway. I don't know. Maybe he had more.

It sounds as though he's just luring them and dicing them to get high. To look at his dick. Yeah, but lure and dice, those two words together mean entirely different things. Yeah, they mean your dick's out. Yeah. They mean come into this room. Yeah, I know it's dark in here, but come in. No, reach out for the light switch.

It's in a weird spot. Just reach down. It's a a weird spot. Just reach down. It's a little bit down. There it is. Now lift it up and put it down. Lift it up. There you go. Keep doing that.

Keep throwing the switch, kid. You got to warm it up first before it comes on. It's one of those lights. It's a warm-up light. One of those shake weights. It's like that. You got to earn it. So March 23, 2001, Mark Ingram plans to plead guilty in the counterfeit cash charge because he faces a longer sentence for violating probation, I guess. His lawyer says it's in his interest to take this.

The working agreement is that he's going to plead guilty to possessing the $3,290 in counterfeit bills. And, you know, hopefully that'll work. They offered him, the judge offers him a 364-day jail term if he admits the violation. But he risks a five-year sentence if he contests it. So do your year. Yeah. Yeah. The sentencing guidelines here call for six months in prison.

And he said he hopes the federal sentence will run at the same time as the state term. And he can just be out in six months and be done with it. So he enters his guilty plea in April of 2001. And rather than stand trial, he's going to do it. The counterfeit money, by the way, was tens, twenties, fifties, and fifties and hundreds that's crazy man that's too much it wasn't just hundreds at ten no one looks twice at a ten nope that's uh back in the day the biggest counterfeiters used to do back when two dollar bills were a big deal in the early 20th century they'd make two dollar bills and five dollar bills that's all they'd make because that's no one ever fucking questioned

them right it's it's so little it's such a 20 they look at oh that's a big one a hundred forget about it jesus christ that was a 50s hundreds you're looking for the band every time yeah no shit um so they said also that um he asked a bank teller part of the whole thing was mark ingerman asked a bank teller to swap $11,000 in counterfeit cash for either cash or traveler's checks. Uh-huh. But they said no. Right. Because they're like, why do you want to do that?

Ingram and the teller talked by phone two days before he was arrested in his stolen car. He's a fucking idiot. Let's just say that. He's a jackass. So July 31st, 2001, he's a jackass so um july 31st 2001 he's gonna get sentenced and um he's you sir may fuck off one year in prison that's what he's gonna get for violating his probation his defense lawyer said it's like a double whammy he's been punished twice for the original offense under the judge i mean but he's doing multiple dumb things that's the problem the judge under

this whole deal ingram will begin sentencing his federal or begin serving his federal sentence when his state term ends in november and then could go free the next may so they're they're consecutive not concurrent yeah and then he'll be on it's bedtime so he's going somewhere else yeah yeah that's what i mean it's it's he's got to get out of one place and go to another place, which is fucking rough here. They talk about, they're still talking about Lawrence Taylor, but we never really figure out if that was real or not, the Lawrence Taylor thing. It wasn't. It probably wasn't. He was breaking laws elsewhere.

All sorts of places so he stays quiet for a couple years though he does stay quiet um february 4th 2007 they're in the newspaper here that the 1990 super bowl ring belonging to mark ingram sold for 20 375 dollars year. That's pretty good. He hocked his ring. Yeah, you could Giants fans, you can get some dough out of it. 20 grand? Fuck yeah.

And especially he made a big play in that game. So it's not just like he's a backup fucking guard or something. That's like getting Plaxico's ring. That's a pretty good ring. It's not bad. Yeah. August 18th, 2007, this has taken it down to another level. We've gone from one thing to child support, and now he's stolen golf clubs and fucking counterfeit cash.

Take it down even lower. Below counterfeit cash. Former Eagle Ingram accused of purse theft. Former Eagle. The Eagles get slapped with this shit. Well, this is the atlantic city newspaper okay all right whatever knew if it was a miami it'd be former dolphin in wisconsin it'd be former packer this is very funny that he got former eagle he was barely there it's in yeah yeah well

it's in philly so that'll they're like what eagles player did that uh yescused of purse theft. Oh, my God. This is... On the street? Sad. He's accused of breaking into a garage and stealing a purse from a car. Wow. You fucking scumbag. That's just scum. That's trash.

That's absolute trash here. Where somebody parked their car at their home, he just broke in and took it. He's like, they think they leave their person there. Yeah. He's charged with felony count of breaking and entering of a building in a misdemeanor larceny charge. Yeah. The purse, which contains some cash and credit cards. At least that dorm room was unlocked and open.

Right. You broke into a garage. Oh, my God. Was stolen in december in grand grand blanc township near flint um yeah that's he had to turn himself in and get arraigned and everything like that and he's released on a ten thousand dollar personal recognizance bond so i don't know i wouldn't trust him to do anything at this point so no he said he's got a flint address listed for him and uh he told the court he was in the process of retaining a lawyer

he faces up to 10 years in prison if he's convicted for breaking and entering because that's big investigators found fingerprints at the crime scene that matched ingram's prints no one saw him he didn't even wear gloves they someone called and said someone broke in my garage they did a crime scene investigation pulled prints off and got a match on this fucking idiot that's how he got caught he's a fucking idiot wow say just don't leave your house i'm sorry at this point yeah hire someone to run your t-shirt business or whatever bullshit you got going on going to robinson's may to read buy merchandise what are you going to do return it with and then get regular money and purse snatching that's what you're doing you're purse snatching now you're trying this is all crackhead

shit that he's doing now it's crackhead shit it's terrible still owes money and child support doesn't he i'm sure he didn't pay back $400,000 worth or whatever. He's not paying that. So, no, he's sitting there trying not to get arrested probably. Yeah, yeah. Hiding out, being embarrassed. It's all terrible. And it gets even worse when he hears a knock at the door.

Oh, no. He's like, oh, Christ, who the hell is that now? He looks out. He's like, is it local police, FBI? He's like Henry Hill in Goodfellas. Like he has helicopters, I hear. What is that? But instead of any of those people, it's someone much more interesting.

It's Dexter Manley, interior designer from New York City. And he says, How is it you've come to arrive here? Oh, my Lord. Jesus, look at you. You, purse snatching? Golf clubs. I mean, fashionable, yes.

But you took the insides of it, the cash. You're white trash, sir. I'm sorry. You, sir, are white trash. I've seen it before, and I'm seeing it again right before my eyes. Look at you. Vince, he's out. Vince is out in the van.

He doesn't even want to come in here. I said, oh, you can come in with me this time, Vince. And he said, no, no. You know how he talks. He's like, blah, blah, blah. I don't know. I can't do a Vince impression. But he was like, I'm not even interested because I keep cash out in cash out in the open and, like, I don't trust this guy.

And, like, I like to golf also. I'm worth too much. I'm just disgusted with you. You're disgusting. You're just trash. I think you should just head down to Fort Lauderdale and just live on a beach or something with the rest of the trash. Just enjoy. I'm done with you.

Dooney and Burke? Disgusting. Poof. with you dooney and burke disgusting poof and then in a cloud of of feathers and boas and and all sorts of shit here uh he disappears and mark ingram is like now am i hallucinating now who the fuck was that a cop no good counterfeit person oh so september 20th 2007 he's ordered to trial in the theft case. Yeah. Ordered to stand trial on charges he broke into a garage and stole a woman's purse.

My God. Fucking pathetic. He's going on trial for charges of larceny of more than $1,000 and first-degree home invasion. They have degrees of that. That sounds bad. First-degree home invasion sound to me if you say first degree home invasion i'm in my living room then the door was kicked in watching a disney movie with my autistic grandson and a fucking door comes flying off the hinges while a man with a shotgun

goes on the ground motherfuckers and ties us all up that's that's a home invasion yeah there is a door jam a door jam has to be repaired after this i fucking deadbolt just pow the whole thing comes on there's splinters absolutely that's the only thing i can think of here but that's what they're charging him with wow first degree home invasion that sounds bad bad. September 6, 2008, arrest warrant is issued for him again. He's not even in jail. This is for failing for a third time to appear in federal court for sentencing on a money laundering and bank fraud conviction. Oh, my God. He's not doing well.

Let's just say he's on the lam, Jimmy. He's on the lam like a gangster fraud. Yeah, he's a bad guy. Bad, bad guy. District Judge Dennis Hurley issued a warrant and said it won't be Marshals at the Long Island Courthouse on the eve of his next court date. Yeah. He's expected to get seven and a half to nine and a half years in prison. Whoa. That's why he's not showing up. He's not showing up to be told to go to prison. For a decade. Yeah.

It's a long fucking time. So his attorney said that Ingram had contacted him early Friday morning saying that his car had broken down on the Pennsylvania highway as he was driving from his home in Flint, Michigan to Long Island. I'm on the way there and I'm just standing next to just a smoking heaping. I could steal a car. You don't want me to do that. So it's going to be a while. I'm on the turnpike, guys. Holy shit. steal a car you don't want me to do that so it's gonna be a while i'm on the turnpike guys holy shit um two previous sentencing hearings were postponed after ingram went to emergency rooms complaining of illnesses that were later found to be non-existent non-existent my chest

hurts it feels like a lot of stress and like a lot of weight i can can't breathe. Oh, it's anxiety. This is because of my behavior I did this? I did this to me. This isn't just normal. Oh, it's because I don't want to go to prison. That's what it is. These are consequences? Is that what you're saying?

Jesus Christ, man. The U.S. District Attorney Dick Donahue here, he said, Mr. Ingram feels these court appearances are optional. Yeah. I would say so. So they said also federal prosecutors in Fort Lauderdale in New York said Ingram cashed more than $300,000 in phony checks and laundered another $200,000. That's why he's in trouble. Was he trying to pay his child support, or was this just for himself? I guess this was for himself.

Well, the problem is he pleaded guilty to laundering money he believed to be proceeds from narcotics deals as well as bank fraud for cash and counterfeit checks. So he was trying to clean street money is what he was trying to do. He needed a prop joe there that's the problem or just a restaurant man something yeah open a fucking bar like a gangster in the in the 70s get your head out of your ass although he pleaded guilty nearly three years ago prosecutors say he'd sought to revoke the plea deal and has fired three previously court-appointed attorneys and personally made court filings claiming he should not be sent to prison he's just like writing down i should not

be sent to prison don't send me please don't say he couldn't find a lawyer that would say anything but no you already pledged you're going to prison you don't understand how this works no i do i can give me a post-it i'll take it. Well, that's pretty much what it is. Prosecutors recurred to a court filing from Ingram this past May as, quote, rambling, confusing, outlandish, and largely incoherent. Oh, I want to read it so bad. Among his contentions were that he was immune from prosecution because why, Jimmy? Why? He has diplomatic immunity as a head of state. I'm a sovereign citizen. As a head of state as a head of state citizen

as a head of state he didn't even say that he said he's the head of some country ingramonia it's in michigan somewhere it's just north of flint what the fuck you could drink the water in ingramonia is the only difference. He wrote that in a court document. Unbelievable. That he should be immune because he has diplomatic immunity as the head of state. As a head of state. As a, not the. From somewhere.

You got to lend me the same courtesy you'd lend, say, the prime minister of Belgium. Just, it's all the same, right? Whoever that may be. I don't even know if they have a prime minister in belgium they might have a president or king or i don't know we know as much as he knows it's the problem holy shit so september 21st 2008 they finally get him into court here the head of state and all he had to really put the affairs of state on the shelf for a minute. The head and ass of state. It's all here.

All parts of the state here. He was sentenced to, you, sir, may fuck off seven years in prison. Federal. Federal prison. Oh, boy. Third term behind bars here. He is ordered to also, ordered in Long Island federal court to pay 252 000 in restitution that man played the super bowl wow holy shit he's free on 200 000 bail until december 5th when he has to turn himself in so uh he said that his criminal record since he's had the one he's had since 96 since his retirement is

quote not who i am it's exactly the only thing you've done though yeah but i'm the head of state a head of i'm the head of yeah head of some bahamian bahamian island there's a small one out there and i'm the head of it he said it hurts me to my core. I've made mistakes. Yes, he does. You have. Yep. His sentencing was delayed as he tried to, like I said, revoke all that shit and enjoying diplomatic immunity as a head of state. He said he counsels troubled youths. He volunteers with various charities and understands that his football feats make him a role model.

stands at his football feats make him a role model. And the judge actually noted the dedication and commitment Ingram showed on the football field, but also his criminal record, which includes seven previous convictions and goes back 23 years. This is just who you are. And also, deadbeat dad, don't give me this, I'm a role model. You got kids and you're not even role models to them. You're a fucking, you don't even buy them food. You're not even a dad. Fuck a role model. You got kids and you're not even role models to them. You're a fucking... You don't even buy them food. You're not even a dad. Fuck a role model.

The judge said he is, like many of us, multifaceted. That's one way to put it. He fucks up in a lot of ways. Jesus. 92 months in prison and up to five years probation too after that. Oh my god, that's a lot.

Which is crazy shit so december 11th 2008 he's on the lam he's not turning himself in to go to prison he fucking took off he's on the lamp yeah he's fast he's got he runs a 435 december 5th he's supposed to turn himself in december 11th Fucking gone. Gone. There we go. He's somewhere here. Arrest warrant issued for him after he failed to report to federal prison to begin serving his nearly eight years. Oh, Jesus. For his bullshit. He was ordered to surrender in Ashland, Kentucky last Friday, but he just didn't show up. Ouch.

He just never showed up. That's amazing. It's fucking hilarious. up. Ouch. He just never showed up. That's amazing. It's fucking hilarious. A spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office where he was prosecuted says a warrant was issued for him and he's still on the lam

so we'll find him. Does John Walsh find him? He should. It's going to be lucky. Better him than Chris Hansen, I suppose. Of all people. Could you rather have find you? John Walsh means you're going to jail, but Chris Hansen's much worse. I think I'd rather be called a scumbag than be a scumbag.

Yeah, exactly. That's one thing. So he sought to remain free until after the college football season so he could watch his son's freshman season as a running back at the University of Alabama. That's what he was trying to do. Why do you want to watch that? You haven't contributed to this. Nope.

January 4th, 2009, he's finally captured. Not turned himself in, captured. Captured. Where did they catch him? Captured. He's arrested in Michigan after nearly a month on the fucking lam here, or more than a month on the lam. They tracked the retired wide receiver to a hotel room in Flint, Michigan.

Oh, boy. Let's replace that H with an M probably in this situation. Yeah, it's single. After a manhunt that began when he failed to turn up for federal prison, you know, turning himself in, the hotel wasn't far from his home, by the way. Because he's a fucking moron. And he's staying in the hotel motel because he doesn't want to be caught. Right.

So, yeah, that's. Yeah. Wow. So he's maintaining the home. Why would you maintain the home? Just just abandon it. Fucking idiot, man. That was he wanted to.

Wow. The arrest came just before the start of his son's biggest game, which was the Sugar Bowl matchup. He was trying to stay free until the end of that, he said. Marshals had been looking for him in New Orleans where the game was played. That's where they were looking for him. They thought he'd be down there. But no, he was in a fucking motel room. He was going to watch it at B-Dubs.

That's all. Jesus. So January 11, 2009. This is perfect for our show. The Daily News,ork daily news huge headline big letters a giant fall from grace there you go exactly that's how we said yeah perfect quote the money launderer and the drug lord shared a table in the fort lauderdale restaurant sizing each other up as they were sitting down. The hulking Cuban-American dealer was built like an NFL lineman, 6'4", 350 pounds.

He wore a silk shirt and plenty of bling. He was actually an undercover FBI agent. His guest, 6 inches short or 150 pounds lighter, exuded the easy charm of a con man he was actually the former nfl player drafted number one by the giants um back in 91 he was the david tyree of his time giants always have some receiver saving their ass too that fucked up uh yeah by the time of 2001 sit-down, Ingram was working from a different playbook,

about to start a long losing streak. Wideout is behind bars for the third time in eight years, busted January 2nd in an $89-a-night Michigan motel room. Oh, boy. Mark. What does that place look like? Oh, you know what it looks like, because we used to stay in shitholes like that.

Just like the Motel 8? Just like the Vagabond. That's what it is. A very old set of furniture in there. Good Lord. They say the preacher's son, I guess his dad was a preacher too, the preacher's son was sitting on his bed watching TV in his underwear just before he was cuffed and led away he said he

had hoped to watch his son play for alabama in the sugar roll in the sugar bowl in his underwear in his underwear he's just chilling yeah it's probably hot in there bad air conditioning in his underwear that's michigan in the winter never mind yeah so they said arrest was not in his game plan that's the head of the u.s marshall's fugitive task force um yeah they said arrest was not in his game plan. That's the head of the U.S. Marshals Fugitive Task Force. Yeah, they said the undercover work of Jack Garcia led to Ingram's latest conviction and saw hard times ahead for Ingram during their meetings. Quote, he didn't walk around with the confidence of, hey, I'm a pro athlete, is what Garcia said. He walked around with the confidence of, I'm a thief, a crook, and a criminal. I'm good at this.

Don't worry. I'm a hustler. Fuck being an athlete. He didn't care. And they said he walked around with the confidence of I'm a thief, a crook and a criminal. I'm good at this. Don't worry. Yeah. I'm a hustler. Fuck being an athlete. He didn't care. And they said he really was. They said he was finding he was doing drug shit. So they said he obviously needed it, even though his money had clearly run out.

Garcia said this guy had had his hand in everything. Another undercover bought stolen cars from him yeah that's what he was he was walking around with counterfeit money he talked about organized crime connections oh boy jesus fucking christ um he also boasted of regular golf dates with oj simpson which is hilarious yeah he hangs out with OJ. What year is this? This is 2005. Wow. This is 2000.

What fucking year is this? How did I lose that? 2009, 2009, not five. How long has OJ been out? Since 96. Oh, and then he went for the Heisman stuff in Vegas. That was later, though, huh? Yeah, that was later.

So, yeah, he's been hanging out with them. He's also been hanging out with LT and everything like that. They said he couldn't get out of his own way. He was once cited for failing to pay child support and was jailed twice, once for theft and once for counterfeiting. Ingram, once cheered by 78,000 fans in Giants Stadium, pleading guilty to a near-empty Long Island courtroom. I just love that line.

Oh, wow. Yep, that's funny. He took off. He went on the fucking lam. They said Garcia owns a memento of his days chasing Ingram. He bought a signed photo of the receiver making his Super Bowl catch. To Garcia. Oh, no, he didn't write it to that.

He said, to Garcia, it symbolizes opportunity lost. You talk about crashing and burning. This guy gives it a whole new meaning. Oh, he really fumbled it. The perfect crime and sports candidate. Fumbling all over the place. February 27, 2009. He's in federal prison.

What could he do wrong now? What'd he do? He faces new charges in New York now. Is he running a drug empire behind bars? New charges. He's facing a bail jumping charge at this point from before, saying he failed to report to federal prison in December, so he's going to get extra time for that.

He pleaded not guilty to that charge somehow. How do you... Were you there when you said you's going to get extra time for that. He pleaded not guilty to that charge somehow. How do you... Were you there when you said you were going to be? No, but I was in my underwear watching the Sugar Bowl. Yeah. You can stop after no. That'll do. Kind of a either pass or fail here.

Right, but the Sugar Bowl. But the Sugar Bowl was on. March 29, 2009, pleads guilty to bail jumping now in federal court. And as a part of his plea deal here, I guess he's going to serve another 21 to 27 months in prison. Almost two more years. Another two. Or more. Just for a month on the lam.

Wow, I hope that month was good for you. Holy shit. He still says, I just wanted to watch my kid play football. He still missed the game, right? I missed the game. December 12, 2009, by the way, Mark Ingram Jr. won the Heisman Trophy. He did? And he's just embarrassed horribly by fucking his father's name at this point.

Thanks, Dad. Thanks, asshole. Rather than standing next to me, putting your arm around me, going, it's been a long road and all this. You're sitting in federal prison, you dumb fuck. Well done, dickhead. Oh, my God. So that's what he did. And he was apologetic, though.

They said that when he turned himself in and all that. That's very sad for poor young Mark Ingram here. I feel bad for that kid. Sure, man. He's got to go through the rest of his life with that shit on his back. Yeah. Ingram Jr. said this, My father has been a great influence on my life, and I love him to death.

That's what he said when he received the Heisman. Wow. He had no comment following his father's sentencing oh he said i'll just talk about heisman stuff let's just do that uh so he is uh stuck here draft day 2011 mark ingram jr receives an emotional message from his jailed father. What? That's fucking amazing. Senior is in jail, and during the draft here, by the way, Mark Ingram Jr. is drafted by the New Orleans Saints in the first round, pick number 28, exactly the same as his father.

Wild. They were both picked in round one, pick 28. Wow. Isn't that weird? What are the fucking odds of that? That's so weird. So his dad obviously- 25 years apart?

His dad was drafted in 87? His dad was drafted in 87 and to 2011. Yeah. So 24 years apart. 24 years, yeah. Wow. That's pretty amazing. He sent us a message to his son that had him in tears.

Oh, what'd he say? He said he was drafted just in tears there yeah oh yeah he said quote son hold on this is what am i doing here how dare he i mean he is not make this in their own words he is his son but come on let's do it man let's let's do it right in their own words quote son first of, I'd like to congratulate you for being a great person and accomplishing your dream of being drafted and having the opportunity

to play professional football. You've made me a proud father. I'm so proud of the young man you've become. I want to tell... Oh, yeah, that's it there. Sorry. That's it. And then he... His son burst into tears. Well, somebody shanked him with a fucking broken off piece of metal they got from under their bunk. And it kind of took him out of frame.

He didn't even get a chance to say, tomorrow when you get paid, can you put 20 on my J bank? Yeah. Can you please hit my commissary up? Because I need honey buns. He didn't say any of that shit. His son said this. Here's Mark Ingram Jr. Qur quote this is hilarious oh boy i want to tell my dad that i love him and i miss you dog you called your imprisoned father dog first of all

can't do that i miss you dog miss you dog this isn't your homie at all this is your dad when was the last time he saw him? You know what I mean? That's what I mean. Well, he says, you've been a positive influence in my life. This is the last time you were at a game, in the stands. When did you buy a pretzel last? When were you free to do that? Without being sought by federal marshals. Holy shit. He said, you've been

a positive influence in my entire life, so I just want to say thank you and let you know that I love you, man. We did it. Dog. Yeah. Bro. Pickups.

Wow. Oh, boy. So April 30th, 2011. Here. He's still a fantastic dad, according to this fluff piece there. Mark Ingram Jr. says that he grew up with a lot of emotion, but he loves his dad. Shonda Ingram said, quote, he has three sisters and I have two sisters, so he grew up with a lot of emotion. In our home, we just like to show.

We like to show love and we show our feelings. We always let him know it was okay to show your feelings. That doesn't show whether you're a man or not. Everybody can cry. It's good to cry. His dad probably cries quite a bit. Every day. I would imagine here.

Ingram said, quote, he coached me in everything. Uh-oh. He taught me how to wrap my body in phone books to protect against getting stabbed in the yard, which is pretty fun. He told me Robinson's May doesn't look very hard at 20s. He said it's totally cool. He helped out in football practice and in track. Every step of the way throughout every phase of my life, he's been there and been a positive influence on me.

He's been in and out of prison for the last 10 years. That's impossible. That's my dad, but he's also my best friend. That's not good. Wow. And Shonda said that no matter what mark's legal troubles he's always had time to reach out to his son shonda said they have a great relationship even though his dad is not available to him every day he talks to him often and he is a big part of our lives he calls and we talk about things he knows what's going on he's always been a great wonderful father

and has had a big impact on mark's life how do you think you think that's what she says when there's no cameras around fuck no that deadbeat that motherfucker owes me so much money scumbag lying conning thieving fucking cheating. Lawrence Taylor stealing pussy ass motherfucker. He stole my purse. You know how many times I drove a kid to practice because this motherfucker didn't have a car or wasn't around? Well, I feel bad. You've just won the Heisman and this is what the questions are like. So did your imprisoned scumbag father help you much?

Like that kind of sucks. Obviously not. No, clearly not. i feel bad for shonda still having to talk positive shit about her ex-husband i feel bad for people who lock their purses and cars in their own garages yeah i feel bad for all these people jimmy but not nearly as bad dear god there's so many as i feel for mark ingram co-founder and producing director of the Chicago Jazz Philharmonic. Really? Which is certainly not what this guy would do.

Mark Ingram, head of global real estate at Gensler in Los Angeles, California. He went to Pepperdine. The hell is Gensler? Some company. I don't know. Mark Ingram, director of advanced dram engineering at Micron Technology in Boise. That's a smart man. That's not our guy.

No. Our guy would be figuring out how he could sell this shit for counterfeit dollars. I'd just steal that. And Mark Ingram, associate vice president and director of athletics at the University of Alabama, Birmingham. Do not give that man a checkbook. Holy shit. That poor bastard. Also Mark Ingram,

senior government and corporate strategist and co-founder of world ranked innovation. That's probably him in Ohio. He went to the U S he was in the U S air force and went to the Harvard Kennedy school. What is wow. That's a smart U.S. Air Force and went to the Harvard Kennedy School. Wow, that's a smart guy. Yeah, I think he's got his whole resume here. He's done quite a lot of shit.

His title sounds like straight-up bullshit, and whatever he's doing sounds like fake shit. In the Air Force, he was directed energy weapons experimentation campaign lead oh i'm frightened by this terrifying hey listen we're not saying anything bad about you this guy can vaporize our houses enjoy whatever weapon you're in charge of man it sounds fucking dangerous if i hear a drone i'm running from now on because oh you won't hear it whatever one he's in control of you won't hear it. That's true. Whatever one he's in control of, you won't hear shit. People drive by the next day, wasn't there a house there? Yeah, it's going to be End of Sopranos for you.

Just dark. Done. Fuck yeah. Jesus Christ. Is he dead or not? You know. You know. You know what happened.

December 28, 2014, a Sports Illustrated article on mark ingram the second here uh and they're talking about how junior was 10 years old he remembers being 10 years old when the fbi agents began banging on the door holy shit best friend yep the best friend big mark because that's what they all called him big mark wasn't home but the agents rummaged through the drawers and cabinets and underbeds. Little Mark and his mother Shonda were told not to move, not to turn around and watch. We're looking for Bestie. Yeah, all sorts of shit.

Where's your boy? Where's dog at? Where's your dog? He said, you okay? Shonda asked in a whisper, and Little Mark's response was, I'm okay if you're okay. A few days later is when he was charged with two counts of automobile theft and federal counterfeiting. Jesus Christ.

And then they picked up the story, and they said that Shonda was worried about the shame and embarrassment and how it would affect her son. She said she wanted to keep him home from school, so nobody knew. They said he grabbed his backpack and headed off to the fifth grade. That right god damn it it's better than wherever my dad is i'll be all right yeah he said uh he said my dad always asked me to not let in all not let it all affect me and to be the man of the house i wasn't going to let him down jesus with his father in prison, Mark and his little and his three younger sisters, Maya, Mia, and Malia. Oh, boy.

It's all M's here. Wow. They said that, you know, he felt like he had to raise, you know, help be a dad figure, too, you know, and all that kind of shit. This is fucking wild, man. This poor guy. They said the family once had money and they went from that to little mark receiving free lunches at school yeah he had money always so yeah and then it went away because dad threw it all away yeah he said the dad who had taken him to play golf and all

that kind of shit was now gone and they said that he was shonda said even for a kid like mark who always had a good head on his shoulders so much changes when a parent goes to prison you're talking about the whole structure yeah and also little mark learned about the criminal justice system it learned what uh solitary confinement was shit like that based on where his dad was. Yeah. One time he went to visit his dad in a facility in Beaumont, Texas, and they turned him away when he arrived because he had shorts on. You have to wear long pants. Really? Yeah. So he didn't have pants with him, so he walked around the parking lot asking other visitors, including a couple of women, if he could buy their pants from them.

The guards finally said, fuck it, let him in. Because they're like, it's whatever. The kid's trying to buy pants in the parking lot, you guys. We can either A, arrest him for whatever he's doing out there, or let him, either way, he's coming into jail. So let's just let him in. We don't have to feed him if we let him in to just see his dad, right? Let's just do that. Just send him back out. we don't have to put him up at that point here they said though he's been unwaveringly loyal writing letters to his dad calling him emails

and they said are you mad at your dad are you upset at your dad and he said no upset for him but not adam he's my dad you know upset for him he's a complete he's what crime and sports why we did this show guys like this just he's done nothing positive man that is ridiculous um he said in football it was actually easier because he had a few parents a few teammates who had parents in prison at times at times so he said that that was actually helpful for him there ingram said it's not the kind of thing you talk about but a lot of us went through this At times. So he said that that was actually helpful for him there. Ingram said, it's not the kind of thing you talk about, but a lot of us went through this. So, you know, he said, yeah, what the fuck?

They're talking about Big Mark's prison term is ending soon. His release date isn't until November 2015, but he told his children he'll be out in late February. So, yeah, they said he's been trying to have more contacts with him, but he had exhausted his monthly allotment of phone minutes, and so he couldn't get in there. Little Mark wants to be clear on this point. He said he is excited for his dad to get out. He said when you have parents that are gone,

you want them back more than anything. Sure. He said he wants his dad to see him play in the nfl he also said he wants him to he's never visited the home his son rents in new orleans or his big house in south florida and all that kind of shit so he's like i want my dad to see what i've done and see what i've what i've become yeah uh shonda said there's there's this readjustment period where it's going to uh where it's like getting to know the person all over again. To be honest, yeah, I think my son Mark is apprehensive about that.

Yeah, he said he's a little worried. He said, my dad has always asked me to not let it all affect me and to be the man, and I'm still not going to let him down. So there we go. He's ready to go do his thing. Early 2015, he is released from prison. Okay. And Mark Jr. leads a shopping spree for children who have a parent in jail. Is that right?

That's an interesting case. Is your dad locked up? Nah, I haven't seen him in like 10 years. Well, fuck that. Call me back when he's locked up. A weird thing. So Ingram said it made me sad, so he thought it would make other kids sad. So it's a $100 per child holiday shopping spree put on by his Mark Ingram Foundation,

which is committed to helping underprivileged children across the U.S. and those especially challenged by the absence of an incarcerated parent. How many kids does he take? $100 a kid? That goes fast. Among the kids in here, among the people there, he took Thomas Morstead, Justin Drescher, Craig Robertson, Senio Calamete, Vaughn Bell, Brandon Cooks, Cam Jordan,

Roman Harper, Marcus Murphy, Kobe Fienener, and Terran Armstead. Yeah, they're all helping. So you got to give them credit for doing something that fucking decent. We're making fun of athletes for doing shitty things on this show. So if they do something nice, you got to say that, too. It's $100 per kid and that many athletes. There better be like fucking 1,000 kids, right? Yeah, because there's like a foundation there and all that kind of shit.

So he says this. This is Mark Ingram talking to the kids. He said, I'm here to let you know you can accomplish anything you set out to do. The statistics are astronomical. If you have one or two parents in jail, you're at least 50% more likely to end up in jail. That's the main objective here,

to bring some love and joy to them and their families during the holidays. It's very important to me. Or if you are a world-class athlete and can win the Heisman Trophy, then it's a little different for you. But that's not you. So finally here in May 9th, 2018, Mark Ingram Jr. is suspended by the league for violation of the performance-enhancing drugs policy.

Is that right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Here. The league says that he'll be eligible to participate in all offseason and preseason practices and games and will be eligible to play in the first regular season game next year. They haven't commented on his suspension.

This was the last year he rushed for a career high 1124 yards and 12 touchdowns. Yeah. So May 14th, 2018 Mark Ingram Sr. fucked again here. Could be headed back to federal prison after police found about a hundred marijuana plants and a handgun

inside his condo. Oh, you can't have a gun and that, man. No, you can't have all that. And this was 2018 before weed was legal in New York. And a hundred of them is a lot. 100 looks like that's not for yourself. That's a jungle, man. Yeah, you're selling.

That's an operation to grow and sell. So he was on federally supervised release before this for similar actions, which isn't great. Police were called to a home he was renting at 114 riverview boulevard on may 25th 2017 uh and uh the landlord tenant dispute occurred it's a landlord called the cops the landlord said my the house i rent to this man smells a lot like weed i can smell it from fucking staten island so we got a problem because we're nowhere near 100 plants smells so bad. That's a lot. The landlord-tenant dispute occurred and a marijuana grow operation was discovered on the property, says the Flushing police. They also found a loaded handgun in the closet of the master bedroom, hidden between two sweatshirts, which is a violation of his probation. Also found a bullet on the television stand, which is a whole separate thing.

His department said they had to send the gun and ammunition for forensic analysis. That's why it took a year for the violation report to be filed in federal court. The court file shows DNA analysis were conducted on the firearm in magazine. He was not arrested at the time because he had a valid Michigan medical marijuana card. So they said, we thought we'd write it up and turn it over to the prosecutor and let them deal with it. Right. So they allegedly violated his supervised release by possessing the firearm and ammunition and not paying his $500 per month restitution since July 2016 and not notifying his probation officer about a change in address. Almost like he wants to go back to prison.

Yeah. He's done nothing that they told him to do. Wow. He had a violation hearing. A judge could modify the conditions of his release, terminate his supervised release before his original release date, or revoke his supervised release and send him back to prison. He can do anything he wants, this judge, really.

So this is a fucking problem. April 7,, 2020 here. He's been sentenced to 21 months in federal prison. So he gets sentenced back to 21 months in prison for having the gun in the weed. So now he's in prison. It's April 2020, which not a time you want to be in jail. Not a good time. No, no.

Not a good time. He says now that he should be released from his federal prison sentence during the coronavirus outbreak. And what is the reason for it, Jimmy? I don't know. Why? He has brain damage. That's why. Brain damage.

It's dementia. I got dementia. Yep. He says that absolutely. Not dementia. Yep. He says that absolutely. He's serving a sentence for violating his supervised release stemming from all that.

And he said, please, I'm all fucked up. The prosecutors are fighting it, though. They cited Ingram's long criminal record as a reason to keep him behind bars and said his alleged dementia does not leave him more susceptible to COVID, which is what he was saying. Oh, he's saying my brain's damaged. Therefore, I can get sicker faster. It's sick. I'm going to be off. I won't even know it.

I won't even remember. I'm sick. I don't even recognize it. They said Ingram might be granted home confinement under the new legislation and attorney general's directive, which is for vulnerable inmates to be released during COVID in this time. Then again, he might not. But either way, he should not be permitted to push his way into the queue past other inmates who are less dangerous and more vulnerable than him. Yeah, I would say so.

He's a fucking he's been a problem all the time. Yeah. U.S. attorney filed a motion to move him to urging the denial to move him to home confinement and saying that, again, he shouldn't be able to cut in line and he's not eligible for compassionate release. He knows he's not fucking walking in the walls not knowing where his name is. Like he's one of the fucking Manson girls? Like he's got cancer and he's going to die next week?

Next week. It's ready to go. He said his current, he's like Jimmy Carter right now. That's what he is. He's just barely holding on. Just teeter. Teeter tonight. He's like 102. We're waiting for it any day. His current prison sentence stems from his second failure on supervised

release is what the prosecutor said. So it's questionable whether Ingram would cease engaging in serious criminal conduct. Right. That's kind of all he's ever done unless he was playing football. That's how he makes his money. Yeah. They said,

given Ingram's record, it's also highly questionable that he'd be able to abide by terms of home confinement, much less adhere to the CDC's social distancing protocols and the governor's stay-at-home order. Time and time again, Ingram has been unwilling to follow even far more basic societal norms, such as don't deal drugs and don't commit fraud. That's a very funny speech don't steal

purses at a lady's garages that's pretty basic you learn that when you're fucking you want him to wear a mask and remain six feet away from people he can't even not do drugs and deal even not sell drugs or use he can't even not grow a weed plants. Yeah, 100. He said, why would anyone think that he would follow these protocols or anything like that? He said, because Ingram would be unlikely to take these directives seriously, he'd also be far more likely than other members of the public to contract COVID-19 and perhaps more likely than he would be in prison and would be more likely to spread it to other people. True, yeah. No matter where he goes, he's going to be a menace is what they're saying. Don't give him the chance.

He's been diagnosed with dementia or CTE, actually, more accurately. But they said the disease can only be determined following an autopsy. So that's what they think is it, but they don't know. They said that his memory loss has worsened in the last year, his neurologist wrote. His neurologist said he may drive, but his wife does not let him. Ingram cannot recall where he's supposed to go. So, the doctor

continues, he can dress himself, but needs to be reminded to shower and brush his teeth. He can't be left by himself or under supervision, except by his wife or close friends. Gets very angry easily and can be set off by anything. Complains of headaches. And during the exam, the neurologist said

that Ingram started crying when discussing his personal care and functional abilities. He said Ingram is at risk for possibly fatal outcomes that could be better treated if he was granted home confinement. Remember on The Sopranos when Junior did this and he was sitting in the judge's chamber in a wheelchair with an oxygen mask? I don't know where I'm going. I'm too sick and all this shit.

Basically what he's doing here. That's what it feels like. That's what it feels like. They said this court should consider the total harm and benefits to prisoner and society that continued imprisonment will yield relative to the heightened health risks posed to Mr. Ingram during this rapidly encroaching pandemic. Okay. April 16th, 2020. Mark Ingram to be released to home confinement. Really? Yep.

It's approved that he goes home. He has 10 months remaining on his 21-month sentence for violating supervised release for bank fraud and all that kind of shit. So they filed a motion, and they're going to do it. There we go. They said he's got dementia. He doesn't know what the fuck he's doing. So 2021 NFL season, week 10, Mark Ingram Jr. became the New Orleans Saints' all-time rushing leader. That's right.

Or rushing yards leader. Yep, against the Titans. Surpassing who, Jimmy? Who? Shit, the Saints? Deuce McAllister. Oh, Deuce, yeah. Yeah, he's one of those you forget about, too.

July 26, 2023, just teeming with dementia. Really? Obviously. No, I don't think so, because instead he is training kids in a football camp. Really? Obviously. No, I don't think so because instead he is doing he's training kids in a football camp. Really? He seems to be able to remember to show up and know how to run drills there. And remembers football?

Yep. The McGonigal Elementary School, our building, McGonigal News Mark Ingram Sr. comes to summer camp. We are honored to have the first round NFL selection and talented wide receiver mark ingram senior share his expertise with our young athletes he's going to show him how to make a 20 look real that's what he's going to show him hydroponics yeah it's a better way to do this

kids mark's mark's journey has been truly inspiring really really there's no i have not been inspired by one fucking thing that's happened here. No. It's inspired me to have less faith in people this whole episode. It's inspired me to think less of even his son. Yeah. Just for not saying what a piece of shit. Your dedication and achievements inspire our young athletes as they continue to chase their dreams. And there's all sorts of pictures. Look at this. Here's all sorts of pic look at this here's

all sorts of pictures riddled with dementia check him out oh he's doing great he's standing walking running posing he's doing great smiling talking to kids hand on shoulders kids are smiling they're not like oh they're not like this crazy motherfucker i can't remember my name they look like hey doesn't look like he's been set off today no no not at all uh his net worth which is not true at all yeah here uh from i love these stupid things whatever his son gives him whatever his allowance is they say he has a net worth of four million dollars which what he has how much of it is in counterfeit monopoly money like what are we talking about here how much of it is in counterfeit Monopoly money? Like, what are we talking about here? How much of it is rainbow-colored? Yeah.

Benjamin Price. It has a cartoon character's face on it. This is ridiculous, so I don't think he has any money, unless his son gave him $4 million. Yeah. That's all I can say. Can't get enough Mark Ingram? Well, you can get an autographed, signed, 8x10 photo of him

that I'm going to 100% buy and put up here in the studio. $19 or best offer. Oh, I can give you a better offer. $12. That's great. He's on the Giants, running with the ball, number 82. What a nice autograph there. Or if you really can't get enough Mark Ingram, you can book him.

And I don't mean in jail. You can book him to come wherever the fuck you are. How much? And he'll start yapping. Yeah. Here we go. Mark Ingram, this is one of those fucking sites. Book Mark Ingram for your next event.

He is available for corporate appearances, speaking engagements, meet and greets, endorsements, and virtual events. Oh, wow. He must be just chock full of dementia, apparently. Virtual, too. Virtual speaking engagements, meet and greets. He doesn't know where he is. Travel available on request, and fee range, please contact. He's not going to put that out there.

Oh, we'll talk about that. This shit's going to be under the table. Yeah. I'm not paying taxes for that out there. Oh, we'll talk about that. Depends. This shit's going to be under the table. What do you got? Yeah. I'm not paying taxes for this shit. No way. No. So, yeah, it's Athlete Speakers you can contact to find. Anybody wants to find out, it's 800-916-6008 is their phone number.

Or you can go online, but their phone number was sitting right in front of you. Junior's made enough money to really fix that man's life, though. He could definitely help him some, I would say. But, you know, who knows if he wants to. He's got to have some sort of business set up so that he can pay his father. You know what I mean? A dividend or something. Pay my father.

He's my head of corporate whatever the fuck. He's the head of state. He works for my foundation and does the whatever. Yeah, he's the head of state. He's the head of state. He has diplomatic immunity. does the whatever yeah he's a head of state he's diplomatic immunity of the mark ingram foundation holy shit mark ingram land head of state right here and that everybody is mark ingram my god man he's a disaster right that's a lot who knew that that's what i mean his son playing for the Saints, he's so good. So good.

So good. He's a great running back. Terrific running back. Did he retire by now? Is it over? I think so. It was 2011 he was drafted. But he got in trouble for weed when? Yeah, he definitely got in trouble.

He got in trouble for steroids, for PED. It was steroids? It was performance enhancing drugs he got in trouble for. So I don't know if it's steroids, HGH, whatever, some kind of bad substance. A man made $32 million, for Christ's sake. Hopefully he can help his dad out a little bit here. So there you go. That's Mark Ingram.

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Hope he put in more than the five on that one. He sure did. He stretched his fucking five otherwise. You son of a bitch, Cody. That's a very cheap way to go get advertising. It's genius on your part, Cody Gachetta. That's why we did it. Other producers this week, Peyton Meadows, Diana in Maine, Janice Hill, Trey Volkanar,

Stephanie Addis, Dalton Johnson, 31, Maura with no last name, Merica Izor, Alyssa Marica. All right. Allison Enos, Brooke Andress. Jesus. Serena? That's a fascinating way to spell Serena. S-A-R-I-N-A-H? That's got to be Serena, right?

Yeah, I've seen it, but not with the H. That is interesting. All right, Becky Smith, Wendell Whitmore, Samantha Brown, Nikki Holler, Adina Smith, Catherine Lowe, Kaylee Moore, Hannah Rebecca, Samantha Breach, Rock Langston, Sherry Cooper, Courtney Belenji, Kenneth D'oose uh justin with no last name samuel when now the kim reaper amon with no last name amen maybe ej hansen michael hilton anthony yasso uh marky win t.s irish 2 leo with no last name michael sweet man the second enrique bush uh megan with no last name. Cryptid Zef.

Ingrid Carey. Molly Bojera. Kiana Butler. Kiana. It's Kiana. All right. Clint Salisbury. Drew Dessen.

Maggie Byers. Oh, boy. Amaryllis May. Alyssa with no last name. Casey Ryan. Armando Martinez. Ricky with no last name. Matt N.

John Ramirez. Marty DeLellis. Allie Darling. Susan Alonge. Along Matt N. John Ramirez. Marty DeLellis. Allie Darling. Susan Alonge. Along maybe. Aaron Pittman. Jelen would know. Jelen?

Jelen. Jelen? Jelen. What is that? Jelen? Is it Jelen? Just Jelen. Is it Jelen?

Janelle Jackie. Lenata. Lenata Larson. Emma would know last name. Anne Marie Watson. Leanne Stavrakis. Stavrakis. Stavrak-Marie Watson, Leanne Stavrakos. Stavrakos. Stavrakos.

I don't know. Stavrakos. Stavrakos. Stavrakos. Yeah. Is it a Greek name? Yes. Yeah. Larissa Yarmulich.

Add that to the list. Italians. Eastern Europeans. We'll add the Greeks to the list of names Jimmy can't pronounce. If he wasn't on fucking Full House, I wouldn't know how to say his name. Kathleen Reeves. Jess Bromley. Andrew Payton.

Brad Webbs. Carrie would know the last name. JD would know the last name. Tina Fabby. Fabby? Fabby, maybe. Zach would know the last name. Amelia Bennett.

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Cy FYI. I don't know what that is. Bryce with no last name. Lauren McDermott. Geroy. Geroy O'Connor. They have discount mugs. Sorry.

Talked over that last name. You want to say that again? And more, Jay. And more. Sorry. Couldn't help it. Geroito, Connor, Leah, Leah Goltz, Oh, full of Belatio, Belatio, Boletino. Leah Goltz.

Bellatio. Bellatio? Boletino. Johnny Fellatio. Connie Cunnilingus. We got all sorts of people. We're just making shit up now. Blowjob Barnes.

Boletino? What is that? Bellatio Barnes. Jennifer Blum. Julie Devitt. Go forth. Gina Everett. Delilah Jenkins. Harold Jewison. Jewison? John Rose. Alec would know that's

name. Rachel Eckhoff. Donald J. Plant. Alyssa Hernandez. Joel Val. Oh, it's Val. Laura Colbrook. Gregory Bradshaw. Grand Mimi, Faith Grizzle, Mary Bailey, Amanda Lambert-Alaway, Helen Thiel, Peter M. Janey, Gresham, Stasia, with no last name, Emily Garr, Pat Walter, Anna Santini, Josh Rokusek, Josh Warner, Scott Warner, that's what it is, Elizabeth West, Robin Hallmunt, Ashley Rowe, Jason Kuhn, Frantic, and Frowsy. Alexi, oh, those are probably dogs or something, right?

Alexi with no last name. Nana with no last name. Jessica Parker, but not that one. Emmy Manisik, Maranisik, Sean Lankes, Payne with no last name, Jessica Parker, but not that one. Emmy Manisik, Maranisik, Sean Lankes, Payne would know his last name, Rachel DeVoe, Caitlin Barber, Vicki Wilkerson, Coffee Shakes,

Celia, Dinna Poe, Tyler Barton, Lydia Y.E. would know last name. Just this show brought to you by the letter E. Rachel Rittman, Emma Salisbury, Thomas Stonestreet, Moss Shuttner, Emma Salisbury, Thomas Stone Street, Moss Shuttner, Ryan Luchmipersad, Ross Tomlinson, Scott Brady, Trisha Mitzel, Teresa Moore, that's a name, Dana Santos, Paige with no last name, James Nilsen, Cadence Blackledge,

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Kevin with no last name. Kelly with no last name. Bunny with no last name. G-Ma with no last name. Aiden with no last name. We're almost out of lifeboats. Jordan Dietrich, Chelsea Tanner, Josh Weintraub, Nicole Gray, Dr. Jizz Cummington. We're all going down with the ship.

TJ Williams, Julia Bulick, head 100, CHO, snap. I don't know what any of that means. Sam R. Simone, that's the name of this ship. It'll be on the side of it at the bottom. Simone Stratton, Brennan Sharp, Alexandra Zoft. Zoft. No, it's Zot. Oh, like those fucking...

Remember those Zots, those candies? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck, those fucking remember those zots those candies fuck those were rad with the fizz inside i hope alexandra's got that money mark connor uh todd mavray less uh elizabeth fight timothy rogers amina ziggler leon spinks his massive hog i imagine it was blanche we talked about it lady was afraid of it oh that's that's right. Susan Anderson, LaCarle Blum, Johnny Helmers, Amanda Wheeler, Wendy Vanderberg, Brighton Hayes, and fucking every one of our patrons. You're amazing. Thank you, everybody. You wonderful, goddamn amazing, magnificent bastards. We can't do it without you.

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