Crime in Sports - #399 - The Saga Of Uncle Spliffy - Cliff "Uncle Cliffy" Robinson

Episode Date: March 12, 2024

This week, we look at a long time NBA mainstay, who had negative attention, from the start. He loves his weed, and lost a lot of money, and prestige, because players weren't allowed to smoke when he played. He also punched a female cop, in a bar brawl, and did a lot of interesting things, like adopt a girl, who he was falsely paying child support for!Be one of the best 6th men in NBA history, don't apologize for punching a female cop, and lose tens of millions of dollars because of weed with Cliff "Uncle Cliffy" Robinson!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Yeah. And me instead of you, Cliff. I like Cliff Robinson. I like him. He's your kind of guy? I like him. On the court, I like him. He's a versatile.

He was a sixth man, sixth man of the year. Great defender, first of all. Long, versatile in terms of position. You could play him at multiple different positions off the bench yeah the sons were the biggest idiots in the world when they got rid of him because he got busted for fucking weed that was the dumbest shit ever it was that time when they they were they were holy they were yeah man they were trying to lead by example dude colangelo was holier than thou like a motherfucker meanwhile how silver can you be like the rest of the team

doesn't all smoke weed too oh you got caught with a joint so you're out like it's that was just the stupidest thing ever i hated that shit but we'll get into all of that cliff robinson he was born december 16th 1966 here um he's born in buffalo you know you know that? Really? Yeah, he's from Buffalo, New York. I had no idea about that. Wow. He's 6'10", which is deceptive. I think of him as like 6'8", but he's 6'10". I mean, there's centers in the league that are 6'10". He was playing small forward a lot. Wow.

That's how versatile. That's a big lineup. It really is. And he was a big guy. He'd come in and he'd play the three, play the four. He'd play the five if there's an emergency. That's a really great guy to have. He was a good three-point shooter, good outside shooter.

He was, yeah. Damn fucking good player here. Yeah, he goes to high school in Buffalo and all that. So we'll get into all this shit here now. A little bit about his background. He's a junior, first of all. Is that right? The first sign of trouble came with conception.

Makes all the sense. Yeah, as soon as the egg was fertil first sign of trouble came with conception makes all the problem. Yeah. As soon as the egg was fertilized, we should have known something was going on here. His mother is Helena and his father is Clifford Robinson, senior. So now he doesn't ever go by Cliff Robinson, junior. And I think that's because his father took off. So he's not really. Oh, that makes sense.

Not looking to reflect his stupid ass. i just found out right now and he there was never a basketball card that said no junior never nope never saw anything about junior he has five brothers and two sisters holy shit that is eight kids that's a shitload of kids there that's a lot um he loved football the most actually as a child. Loved playing football. But I think he eventually just hided himself out of football. Well, I don't know, man. If he was fast enough as a wide receiver, he could have been great.

Yeah, but you'll break a 6'10 wide receiver in half. Then, yeah. You'll break him right in half. Yeah, he wouldn't have lasted long. Wouldn't have lasted. He's just too tall. And skinny. If you weigh 375, I guess you could be a left tackle maybe or half. Yeah, he wouldn't have lasted long. Wouldn't have lasted. He's just too tall. And skinny. If you weigh 375, I guess you could be a left tackle maybe or something.

Sure, sure. But he's not that. I know. He's a skinny guy, so I don't know what he's going to do. He went to Riverside High School in Buffalo, and that's when he hit a growth spurt in the beginning of high school. He was all in for football, and then he hit this growth spurt, and they were like, you are way too tall for this. We can't do can't do it yeah we don't have any you know those pants that come down to

like below the knees yours are like mid-die right now yeah you look like a fucking waitress on roller skates right now we cannot have this we can't be having this shit we don't have any bigger than that i'm sorry your jersey's a half jersey. It looks like a Miami Dolphins practice jersey. We can't do this shit. This is ridiculous. You just look silly, son. Sorry. So his mother said, why don't you play basketball since you're so tall?

Sure. You're athletic and you're tall. So he didn't play organized basketball until high school. Wow. So he's not a guy that was doing this. He had no idea how to do this. No, because he wasn't a guy that was doing this. He had no idea how to do this. No, because he wasn't a guy that was expected. No one thought he was going to be 6'10".

That just never was a thought. So he- He was doing it for a while. And then once you're 6'10 in high school, you can get your- But a lot of guys, too, that are that big would have just gotten kind of a basic skill set and just been like down low players and try to go over people. But Cliff is a- He's cliff is a he's a shooter he's a shooter he's a boy he can handle the ball pretty well he's a good passer like he's got all the skills like a real versatile skill set so interesting um he said he liked high school

he said it helped me to get prepared playing in the competitions i played in in buffalo to play in the big east conference so um his father left home when he was four and died when he was 10 so oh doesn't really give that much of a shit about dad i feel like i think dad can go fuck himself pretty much truly um his mother didn't his mother got remarried when he was 13 and he did not like his new stepfather named clarence clarence horn didn't like him don't like clarence uh robinson remembers quote a lot of animosity so yeah i mean imagine too you you marry some new lady when this kid's like 13 and then the next year he's six foot ten you're like jesus it's

hard i can't tell him anything anyway but now i really can't tell him anything go in your room duck motherfucker we're not paying for another hospital visit jesus christ i'm tired of you getting stitches in your forehead tired of putting door frames in this house yeah just like harry and the hendersons he's just taking out just blasting holes out of them just head cutouts of every door frame on the top. They're like, well, fuck it. At least through high school, we'll leave that. We'll fix it when he leaves.

He remained close to his mother. And even as an adult, he would call her on a daily basis. Really? Yeah, keep up with mom. His mom said, he'll ask me how to cook something, and it goes from there. So he'll call mom up just for bullshit in here. There's a lot of kids, and that was tough on him. His sister, Alicia, actually scored more than 1,000 points for Canisius College as a player, too.

Is that in Buffalo? I don't know where Canisius is, actually. I've heard of it. I know it's in the Northeast, but I don't know exactly where. Is it Professor X's house? I think it is. Kinesias definitely sounds like some kind of scientific. X-Man school.

It sounds like a scientific cult. Yeah. Are you a member of Kinesias? Class. Yeah. Join us. Join Kinesias. We will take over the world.

It's 8th hour. I got Kinesias. We will take over the world. Take over. Kinesius. Kinesius, yes. His brother, Craig, also was a very good basketball player at Riverside and went to Genesee Community College as well. So, yeah. I guess his family, his brothers and sisters and mother, we're all very close. It'll make you that way. Yeah, well, I mean, if dad's not around, they're either going to suck together or they're going to blow apart one of the two.

And they bound themselves together. A Buffalo person, a guy named Rob Lanier, who played with them, said personally. Buffalo person. Buffalo person. A Buffalo person. Someone from Buffalo. Yeah. Said personally, I always admired the closeness of their family

they always seem to be connected to one another um so yeah he did that he said that uh he did everything he was tough and competitive and had that combination of skill that wasn't necessarily embraced but he was undeniably talented the things they would criticize a big man for in the nba is what made him special his skill in the 80s they did not want big men to shoot three pointers or dribble the ball basically they say if you're unless the play calls for you to be at the top of the key to draw out the center you stay the fuck by that paint and wait for the ball and shut the fuck up this get the rebound and then give it to a guy smaller than you in the same shirt out there or yeah dunk it one of the two

lay up or put it back in there there's coaches i've heard i remember like in the aba reading about that where they're their center they told them if you shoot for me on the foul line i'm going to hit you like i'm physically going to beat the shit out of you stop doing that whereas cliff is a he's a modern day cliff would have been amazing today oh he thrived this yeah in this game forget guys like him him like larry bird guys like that these six nine six ten guys that weren't necessarily the most athletic guys in the world but are good shooters good pat they thrive now because you're not allowed to play defense on them they would kill you now i mean fuck they'd crush you so he's a definitely before his time um he another guy who coached him at riverside another buffalo person

said he loved cliff like a son he said cliff was 5 11 as a high school freshman He said Cliff was 5'11 as a high school freshman. Wow. 5'11. What is that, 14 years old? Yeah. He's only 14. He grows a foot in high school.

That's insane. When he was a sophomore, he only averaged three points a game. Really? That's it. Three points a game. Probably not used to his body, though, right? No, he just sprouted up. Trust me.

As somebody who went from 5'8 to 6'3 in the summer, it takes you a minute to get back to, whoa, what's going on here? You're getting bearings about you. How did my legs and arms get this long? What happened? It's fucking weird. His coach said by his sophomore year, by April of his sophomore year, he was 6'4. And, yeah, he said that somebody said, quote, we were having breakfast once once and one of his teammates said hey Clifford you grow on the weekends

said it seemed like he went home Friday. In April he was 6'4 was he like does he got a notch on his office room? I was going to say he's got a closet with a door frame where he he marks in pencil all the heights of his players throughout the months and years. And then Cliffy's got a closet with a door frame where he marks in pencil all the heights of his players throughout the months and years.

And then Cliffy's got the biggest. Little Cliffy. Let's see. Oh, little Cliffy grew a lot from April to fucking silly. April, he was this. How the fuck do you remember that? My grandkids are on the other side of the frame. It's very nice.

So, yeah, they said he'd leave Friday and come back taller on Monday. When he was a sophomore at the sectionals he had a 20 point game and that was like his biggest game ever and uh but as a junior he averages 24 points a game averages averages and uh he as he was a first team all western new york selection as a senior so um yeah uh his coach said some uh some told me the other day that clifford wasn't recruited much he said uh he really was recruited a lot by the time he was playing those aau games he was six foot six and then six foot eight and getting to be quite a prospect sure sure every time he grew the interest would exponentially grow they'd be like holy shit this kid's still growing attention he could be seven foot nine when he's done we have no idea that's

how scouts are they see potential just keeps going yeah coaches and scouts see potential and if they see someone still growing like he could never stop growing we don't know they're like stock market investors that are gone off the deep end you know it's just gonna go up and up and up forever he may not score he may sit on the bench but we'll sell tickets to see it yeah all might grow between the third and fourth quarter it could happen college coaches are basically like crypto people they're just very optimistic they have no reason to be but they are that's how they are their fingers are always crossed always um howieie Dickman, or Dickinman. Howie Dickinman. Jesus.

Bad name. Dickin Man is his name. Dickin Man. How do you do it? That is terrible. Howie's got his dick in a man is what all of his friends say constantly. Even now, as an adult, works at a college. Absolutely.

They're still like hey i'm not gonna stop hey how he's got his dick in a man come here for a minute yeah i'm 43 if i knew him i'd call him the same thing that's all i would call him um this is a guy who was an assistant coach at kinesias college so back we're back to fucking kinesias again he said their people said he saw the promise in Cliffy before other people did. Yeah. So they said that this guy then moved to coaching the UConn, the Huskies there. Yeah.

And so he put it in people's heads that look at this Cliff Robertson, Robertson, Robinson guy. You should look at him. And so they do. And they recruit him to come to UConn. Oh, is that where he went? That's where he went to high school or college, yeah, UConn. So there was a little incident here while he's a teenager, and this fucked it all up. Right before he goes to the University of Connecticut, he almost doesn't get to go to college over this.

Really? This is how silly the early 80s were. This is like 1985. He is arrested for having a gram of marijuana he's been smoking for years oh yeah since high school you look at cliffy cliffy looks like he got yeah every game always he's like sam perkins was the same way like every game i don't know how they keep the same level of stone the entire game but fuck do they pull it off perfectly they just look like just where i want to be right now always squinting smoked about half a joint got right where i wanted to be and put it out and woo that chill that fucking hoop looks big right now it just

looks big baby he got arrested for a gram of weed which is like a joint that's a pre-roll that's ridiculously a small amount of weed that's nothing i mean that's nothing and uh he is charged and convicted of this crime of this horrible crime against humanity of having a joint's worth of weed as a fucking 18 year old penalty as an 18 year old kid because that's an adult james i'm sure i'm sure it was a fine or whatever it was. Did they teach him a lesson? Yeah, he never wanted to smoke weed again after that. It worked, boy. Yeah. Tough on drugs there.

So he ends up still going to the University of Connecticut, but it was precarious for a minute whether they were going to actually let him come or not because now he's a disgrace. But they said, we can fix him. We can fix God. What year was this was this though 1985 yeah yeah this is the height of the war on drugs and just say no it just started and all that bullshit so this is a big deal zero tolerance for a gram of marijuana for a high school basketball who gives a shit so stupid so he goes to yukon 85 86 they're 12 and 16 so not exactly a national powerhouse wow during this period and uh looking at their team and cliffy's the only guy on the team that'll end up in the nba so that might be why they're not that great did len bias go straight to college or straight to uh the nba or is he a college he played all four years at maryland

where at maryland so yeah oh yukon yukon doesn't play maryland uh yeah i think they do well one The NBA? Or was he a college? He played all four years at Maryland. At Maryland? Maryland, yeah. Oh, UConn. UConn doesn't play Maryland. Yeah, I think they do. Could they? Back then, oh shit, the conferences. Who knows? Did Cliff Robinson play him?

Maybe, because Georgetown would play. They were in the Big East, so they'd play all the Eastern schools. So I don't know if Maryland. Maryland was probably in the ACC, though, or something. I'm not sure, because they change conferences so much now. They may have been in the Pac-10. I don't know if Maryland was probably in the ACC, though, or something. I'm not sure, because they change conferences so much now. They may have been in the Pac-10. I don't know. Back then, they were in the WAC.

I don't fucking know. So Cliffie plays in 28 games in his freshman year here. He's 19 years old, and he averages 5.6 points and 3.1 rebounds a game. Doesn't play that much. So, you know, doing okay. They're breaking him in. Then 86-87 season is when Jim Calhoun took over. Is he still coaching there?

I don't even know. He's probably dead by now, but he was there for a long time. Yeah, it's one of those AI-generated holograms like they did with Tupac that time. They just pop them up. Listen, you can AI-generate a play. I'm sure that they've got Calhoun-influenced AI that's drafting and calling plays for them. Yeah, I hear an NFL team is just going to have the hologram of Vince Lombardi coach next year. They're giving up on coaches.

They've stopped. So thisombardi coach next year. They're giving up on coaches. They've stopped. So this is Cliff's second year, and Cliff is struggling academically. Yeah. Cliff's general interests are basketball and weed, which is fine. Those were my interests at that age too. So believe me, more sympathetic I could not be, but I also didn't have to like you know go to yukon classes yeah and my my career didn't depend on either neither yeah it didn't work i

actually like i said i've said it a hundred times if i knew how my life would have turned out i would have done less in school than i did even less because it really did nothing for me honestly i could have done this if i dropped out in the seventh grade, we could be doing this right now. It wouldn't have been, it wouldn't have mattered. I think it wouldn't have fucking mattered. I just wasted all that time learning algebra. Any algebra ever come up in any of these shows,

people who listen to all of our shows. I don't recall. Do we ever have to solve for X at every time? Is isosceles triangle? What is that geometry? Yeah. One of those, you know what i don't know i'm glad i don't know because that would be a waste of space in my brain i know it's mathematics

and i haven't got a fucking clue i'm better off storing when cliff robinson was six foot four in my brain that has more relevance to what i do for a living it was in april of his sophomore year sophomore year rightore year of high school, yeah. I'll keep that and lose whatever the hell form of algebra I learned in high school. That'll be gone. So Calhoun gives him some academic counseling, which is, here's some fucking hot chick who's going to do your homework for you, is what that meant in the 80s. Or follow her. Yeah.

Here's a white girl who's going to do your homework, is what that meant in the 80s. Or follow her. Yeah. Here's a white girl who's going to do your homework, is what that meant. And some blonde girl from Iowa would come do it all. So he also said he gave him tough love. Oh. Yeah. So UConn was the worst team in the Big East when Calhoun took over. 12 and 16 is terrible.

But through him, they became a good team what they are they won the NIT tournament in 88 we'll talk about there and Cliff was the first great player that Jim Calhoun ever had there and he always Calhoun always credits Cliff Robinson with putting the program on the map and helping him pave the way um people were still wondering about Cliff's first of all his skills were weird he's a big man that doesn't do big man things he doesn't go inside and you know fucking dominate physically and shit like that and his temperament he was seen as very chill yeah but he was seen as sullen and given to fits of anger as well oh really yeah well it's because you're you're killing my butt yeah quit killing

my butt i got arrested for a gram of weed i'm pissed off i'm high and you're just talking i hate you but that's his high school coach said though that's how he always was yeah that's just yeah well the kids always lie man leave him alone. Yeah. Even as a freshman, even before weed, before he was even tall. When he was sober and tall. He was sober and short, I'm saying. He was emotional. This Russell guy, one of his high school coaches said, he was always real emotional.

Those emotional people, it sometimes works for them and sometimes works against them. But with Clifford, there was a great sense of passion and playing hard and being committed and dedicated to a goal. You can turn all that into a positive. He was always a good kid, but a little emotional and sometimes misunderstood when he was young. He's a kid. You just described a teenage boy.

Misunderstood, yeah. Sometimes he gets pissy. He wants to smoke weed and you won't let him. Yeah. Sometimes he gets pissy. Sometimes wants to smoke weed and you won't let him. Yeah, sometimes he gets pissy. Sometimes he gets extra mad for no reason. And he wants to smoke weed and fuck girls and not do schoolwork and play basketball. Yes, you just described every 18-year-old kid I hung out with when I was 18.

He wants to do a lot of things that the adults don't want him to do. And he doesn't want to talk to them about it. Not at all, no. And even his skill set is like, I'm going to do my own thing. This to talk to them about it not at all no and even his skill set is like i'm gonna do my own thing this is this is my skill set i'm working on here so it's so interesting yeah big time here 1986-87 the first year calhoun is there they go 9 and 19 jesus christ god damn terrible um let's see they have tate george do you remember him really tate george is also.

Good for the Nets. He's a freshman on that team. So that's the only other NBA player. So they recruited at least somebody who's a future NBA player. Shooting guard, I think? He was a shooting guard. Yes, a guard. Yeah.

Tate George. 86-87, he played in 16 games, did Cliffy. So way less games, actually. Averaged 18.1 points a game, though. Jesus. So definitely stepped it up a lot because he averages 35 minutes a game now, which is basically the whole game in college. Yeah, you're going to pour points on when you're playing the whole fucking thing.

Absolutely. 7.4 rebounds, too. Jesus. Turned into a solid player and two assists. 87 and 88, that's when they go 20 and 14 that year so not too shabby at all they do very well um november 88 they won the nit tournament which if you don't know what that is there's the ncaa tournament where they hand out brackets at your office you know and you fill them in and some chick who never watched basketball wins every year

yeah you know that one the hoyas because her boyfriend had one. Yeah. You know that one? She was picking which animals she thought was tougher than the other one. Well, I think a husky would eat a cardinal. So I'm going to go ahead and pick them over that. There's also another tournament. Those are the first 60 whatever teams.

Those are the best teams. Yeah. Then there's like the next 60 teams and then they play to see who's... Best of luck picking that fucking bracket. Good luck, yeah, because you're picking some Division III school you've never heard of. But the Huskies win that in 1988. Really? And Cliff was named to the all-tournament team that year.

Hell yeah. So that got him some attention. 88-89, they're 18-13. The Huskies are here Cliffie plays in 31 games averages 20 points a game 7.4 rebounds and even 20

he's doing well now he's got some attention but NBA scouts don't really know what he is is the problem he's one of those guys they like to look at a guy and project it right onto what he's going to be able to do he's seven one yeah he backs a guy down to the fucking to the hoop he dunks it on shack you knew what he was you could see him doing that in the nba sure penny hardaway he could see he's a point guard but he's

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In 1989? In the 89 draft. Holy fucking what? Jesus. I don't think you'll ever get this. No fucking way I'm going to get Derek Coleman. We've covered it before. I don't know.

We've covered this draft before. It's got a couple of crime and sports alum in it here. I believe it. Purvis Ellison. Never nervous Purvis. Yep. To Sacramento. Number two, Danny Ferry to the Clippers.

They got Ferry and somebody else in the first round, right? They got Danny Manning, I think, that year or the year before maybe. But Ferry wouldn't play for them. Remember, he held out and didn't want to play for them and said he was going to go play in Greece or something because he wouldn't play for the Clippers because they were such a shit franchise. So he went to the Cavs. He went to the Cavs. Yeah, there was a trade or some shit. Number three, old fucking one kidney here, Sean Elliott.

Oh, no shit. Number three, great player. Great one kidney, huh? Yeah, I think he had a kidney problem there. Okay. Either he had one or he had to give one to somebody. Donated to somebody? His brother or something, I don't remember.

Somebody in his family is fucking not good enough. I think Mourning ended up with one kidney, too. I think that's true. Yeah. Number four, Glenn Rice. These are all second-tier players from the 90s is what these are. A bunch of six men or guys that come in late off the bench. A bunch of two-time All-Stars is what they are.

Guys that have just twice in their career hit the All-Star. Number five, J.R. Reid. Another guy that falls right into that category by Charlotte. Number six, Stacey King with the Bulls there. star uh number five jr reed another guy that falls right into that category by charlotte number six stacy king with the with the uh bulls there oof george mcleod number seven there's another he was a good player george mcleod remember when he played for the suns he was a real nice for the nuggets time the nuggets he was a real nice player i really liked him then we get into some guys randy white and tom hammonds poo richardson old old Nick Anderson with Orlando. That was Orlando's, I believe that was their inaugural draft there.

They picked Scott. They picked, yeah, Nick Anderson and then they got Scott Skiles. Mookie Blaylock, number 12, we've talked about him. Tim Hardaway to Golden State at 14. Absolutely. Wow, they got him. They drafted him. They drafted him.

Dana Barros to Seattle. Two picks in a row Seattle got Dana Barros and Sean Kemp. Not bad. Not too shabby. B.J. Armstrong, Blue Edwards. If you plot a Divox, number 26. This is like a whole 90s array of basketball cards. Yeah, this is your tops and upper deck.

This is what you bought. This our our whole youth and laid out in front of us right here this is so fucking funny Kenny battle number 27 Sixers Kenny battle went to Detroit originally then Sherman Douglas 28 Jesus

for in round two Miami originally he played for the Celtics? Miami originally. He played for the Celtics, though, for a long time. I think he was number 20 or something if I was Jersey. Yeah, I think that's right. I think that makes sense here. Then we get into guys you've never heard of. Dyron Nix.

Nope. Frank Cornette. Yikes. Jeff Martin. He actually played a lot of games. Actually, not that many. Never mind. Only played two years.

Stanley Brundy, Jay Edwards, Gary Leonard, Pat Durham. And then finally, at number 36 overall in the second round, Portland chooses Cliff Robinson. Those people were drafted above him. They said, we'll take Stanley Brundy from DePaul first, who played in 16 games in the NBA and averaged 2.3 points a game. Cliff Robinson will play for almost 20 years. We'll take Jay Edwards of Indiana, who played four games and averaged 1.8 points a game. Wow. Over Cliff Robinson.

And the Trailblazers drafted him, huh? Yeah, Portland drafted him. After that, Doug West was in the draft. Not bad. And Chucky Brown, who played for 13 years, too, was taken at 43. Power forward? Yeah, not bad. So, I mean, they got a steal, honestly.

Sure did. I mean, they were smart enough to look at him, but that's how low people thought of Cliff Robinson. Pothead. Yeah. Well, they said, and that was part of it, though. Really? Yeah.

They were like, his temperament's weird. His game's weird. He smokes weed. He's just a weird guy. We don't want that guy. He's weird. Huh. Just a weird guy.

He doesn't- Well, Portland's a great place for that. It's perfect. And the people of Portland don't give a shit if you smoke weed. No. That's all. No. That's a great place for that. It's perfect. And the people of Portland don't give a shit if you smoke weed. No. That's all. That's a very weird place. Just don't construct a giant shantytown under the overpass there.

That's all they ask of you in Portland. Other than that, you can pretty much do what you want there. They're pretty loosey-goosey. We won't throw you out, but we'll certainly judge you when we drive by. It's frowned upon. Yeah. out but well we'll certainly judge you when we drive by it's frowned upon yeah so his that russell guy from high school his coach said he thought he was going in the first round which based on the other guys that went yeah i mean he should that's what i mean anthony cook who the fucking sons

picked that year cliff robinson would have been a better pick anthony cook played in 116 games over four years and averaged what 3.6 points a game or something? I don't even know who the fuck that is. Because he was a garbage player. That's why. Yeah. He was gone by 92. My God.

Yeah, not too great. Russell said, quote, he told me he didn't have to have a tie to wear with his suit for the draft. He said he spent foolish money for a tie in the big city and didn't get picked. He threw his suit coat and tie in the trunk of his car. Wow. He went to the draft and got a suit and spent all his money and then nobody picked him. That's fucking sad. So they took him in the second round and they don't show that, huh?

Yeah, nobody cares about the second round. Jesus Christ. So Calhoun, his college coach, said that after the draft, Robinson told Calhoun, 30 teams made a mistake, and I'm going to show them. Atta boy. They fucked up on me, boy, which is interesting, but there's only, I believe, 28 teams at the time. So that might be.

Listen, he has been smoking weed for a long time. Smoking weed for a while well i guess no because miami and never mind miami and orlando came in that year so were they oh so there was 30 then i think that was 29 and 30 so maybe he's right uh so there's 30 teams but but the first the team one one took a a flyer on you man but yeah they blew it because they didn't pick me in the first round pick them in the first round where you would have got a guaranteed contract i think that was the problem you don't get a guaranteed contract didn't pick me in the first round? They didn't pick him in the first round where he would have got a guaranteed contract. I think that was the problem. You don't get a guaranteed contract unless you're picked in the first round.

And I'm looking. There's only 27 picks in a round here. So I don't know. Wouldn't there be the same amount of picks as there are teams? Unless they trade their pick away, but that team should be picking. Well, then there's still a pick in the first round. It's just not theirs anymore. The pick doesn't go away.

That pick gets picked. Yeah, yeah. I don't know, man. I'm very confused. But if there should be an even number of teams, there shouldn't be an odd number. No, no, no. You would think that, too.

You'd keep it even just to keep the conferences even. I don't know. So 89-90 goes to Portland. Portland's a good team, actually, back then. They were blazers bulls the video game and shit they went to the finals on porter were already there uh yeah they were very good oh man they had fuck they had all kinds of people yeah we're gonna talk about them okay all right i'm just gonna try to remember i can tell you them if you want or you could just you remember them and I'll tell you if you're right. We could play a fucking game here.

I don't care. It's our show. Fuck the week air. There's a big black guy that had like a really gross name. I forget his name. Yeah, big black guy with a gross name. That's a good one. They had another, they had that other big black guy.

Remember him? Yeah. Big black guy. They had him. Really good. Remember that white guy they had that used to shoot from the outside? Detlef Schrempf? No. Whatever white guy they had. That's what he did. Yeah. Big black guy. They had him. Really good. Remember that white guy they had that used to shoot from the outside? Detlef Schrempf? No.

Whatever white guy they had. That's what he did. That's what I mean. There was a big black guy who got rebounds. Chris Mullen played there. A little white guy who just shot threes and didn't do much else. Remember those guys? That's what every team was. Every team.

That's how they were constructed. They finished 59-23 this year, which is nearly that's pretty good. Nearly a 60 win season. That is really good. Good for second in the Pacific division. And, uh, this team consists of Clyde Drexler, Kevin Duckworth.

That's the name. That's the guy. What a gross name. Yeah. Duckworth, Jerome Kersey. That's right. Very good.

Drazen Petrovich on this team. There he is. Holy shit. Dude, Terry Porter on this team. He was a good player. Terry Porter, very underrated player. Drazen Petrovic on this team. There he is. Holy shit. Dude, Terry Porter on this team. He was a good player. Terry Porter, a very underrated player. And Buck Williams also on this team, power forward.

So there's a lot of guys you've heard of on that team. That's a hell of a team, yeah. Second, who the fuck was better than them? I believe, was it the Lakers that year? Oh, it had to be, yeah. I believe it was the Lakers that year, if I'm not mistaken. Could be completely fucking wrong, though. You're 100% right. There's no way you're wrong.

So that year, he plays in 82 games. So every game they play. Every single game. Starts zero. He's not a starter. Sixth man. And that's a lot. Through a lot of Cliff's career, it's not that he's not good

enough to start he's just the perfect six man so he kind of gets fucked in that he's like in wrestling when a guy is a really good worker yeah the guy's a really good worker he never becomes a very rarely becomes a big superstar because he's just so good at making that guy look good so let's just put him in with that guy and then we'll get to him later but make that guy look good and then you end up and the starting lineup for the for the blazers is so solid is he playing behind duckworth or uh kersey uh power forward he is playing behind um duckworth a couple i think buck williams actually is starting oh you might be right kersey's a small forward there petrovich the shooting guard and he's a rookie though petrovich so he might be he might be giving Duckworth a spell. Possibly

even coming in at center. Yeah, because he's the only... Wayne Cooper's also on the roster, but he's a 6'10 guy just like Robinson. They have the same exact physical deal here. Wild. He averages 9.1 points per game that year and 3.8 rebounds. So doesn't set the world on fire only plays 19 minutes a game he's coming into a good team with an established lineup so that's what happens here uh i'm gonna say this grace right now no shit definitely uh because april 30th which is right at the tail end of the season before the playoffs start here he is arrested here which is rookie season rookie end of the rookie season yeah not

great and the the team was trying to decide whether what disciplinary actions they would take because he's arrested not for a gram of weed which i'll always advocate for you if you get arrested for a gram of weed i don't care where it is or under what circumstance but this i can't abide because i can't imagine a situation where i would do this basically or you or sane people i know he's arrested after allegedly assaulting a police woman and two other people outside of a nightclub in portland a police woman i've never even thought of socking a police woman so that's a when you do that you lost me at that point you know i don't know yeah there's a

couple of reasons not to sock that person a few i could think of multiple uh this is two right out of the gate it's 3 30 a.m all right there's a fourth outside of goldie's restaurant and lounge in northwest portland so what do we always say in the wrong man always even the cops in the wrong and she's at work if you're out at 3 30 a.m you're she should have been in bed anything that happens you're wrong or in your house i'm awake but i'm in my house i'm not out wandering around fucking looking to cause trouble everybody go in everybody home at 3 30 in the morning no shoes on no chilling fucking chilling keys to the car put well up in the in a cabinet or something hanging on a hook so when police arrived they found this is a fun

thing to pull up to 20 to 30 people in a giant fucking heathcliff brawl outside of the establishment so there's just arms flying people fighting it's Why are you here, Cliff? Fucking insane. So the police officer, Elaine Sloan, she was 42 years old. He punched a 42-year-old woman. She's old enough to be his mom. She's only got a few more years before she retires, Cliff. She's doing the bullshit security thing. She's 20 years older than you.

That could be your mom. And you were like, fuck you, bitch, pow. She's old enough to be your mom cliffy cliffy cliffs did someone not give cliffy his weed that night maybe maybe he just smoked it all the city of portland should have said listen we got to keep cliffy stoned when he's stoned he's fine's really a happy guy. We can't let him be crazy. He's off the weed. He's punching female cops. I can't have that. And he's home at midnight. Sloan stated

in her police report that she was trying to break up a fight when she was knocked to the ground by a violent blow to the side of the head. She got sucker punched. She got fucking popped here, yeah. Her report said she received abrasions and had ringing in her ears. Yeah, because she got punched by a 6'10 man.

That's fucking huge. He boxed her ears, for Christ's sake. Yeah. She suffered also a bruised kneecap that made it hard for her to walk, and she had to stay home from work for a little while, a few days, nothing big. She didn't know who hit her.

She just said she got sucker punched fell down you know everything kind of went ringy at that point but the manager of the nightclub gerald marshall said he was right there watching the whole thing and he saw cliff robinson punched her in the side of the head wow and robinson was taken into custody because of that and um no right he just saw somebody grabbing his friend right i i don't know how do you not know first of all you punched a chick so yeah that's that's the first problem i've been in a brawl and i've never been like i'm gonna real fast didn't she yeah where's that where's that blonde brought i'm gonna punch her right in the head never thought

of that and second of all outside of a night, I assume a uniformed police officer is dressed very differently than anybody else. And the jingling and jangling of her gun belt with her handcuffs and such probably would give you just a hint that this is a police officer. Yeah, the weird short sleeve down her arms. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's enough. That'll do it. He probably punched her butt loose.

The patch on the sleeve. Yeah, that'll do it. She probably punched her butt loose. The patch on the sleeve. Yeah, that'll do it. She went down reassembling her bun. That's a problem. But, I mean, as fast as she went down, he should have known right then, oh, I think that was a check. Yeah, he should have been grabbing to help her up before she hit the ground. Uh-oh, sorry about that. Oh, no.

So fucking unreal so uh after his arrest uh rest two night nightclub patrons told police they also had been punched in the face by cliff so cliff was just going around dominating this fight dominating this club this club and the fun part is about this is everybody knows it's him because he's a foot fucking taller than everybody else so they just see his head going from spot to spot punching people. It's obvious. Raining them down. Yeah. If someone looked over the whole scene, they'd go, I don't know what happened, but I know that really tall guy was punching the shit out of people.

That's the only person you saw. They're so tall. That guy got a bunch of licks. I saw every one of those. You'd see nobody else's punches, wouldn't you? That's fucking insane. Do you notice how he's not bleeding? Also, he's not bleeding and he's in a fighting stance.

He's been blasting people. Wow. So he was cited on three counts of fourth degree assault. That seems low. Fourth degree. He's a woman. Yeah. It seems like you made a paper airplane and threw it at them. That's fourth degree assault that seems low fourth degree hmm that's a woman yeah it seems like you like made a paper airplane and throw it at them that's fourth degree assault hit somebody in the ear yeah we and one count of disorderly conduct these are all misdemeanors here no assault

on a police officer none of that no somehow very lucky i would say you could say i guess i was a melee and i didn't see but usually still you get charged. She said that the police officer said she, as she wrote the citations at the jail before Robinson's release, Robinson told her, quote, if I'd known you were giving me all these tickets, I would have made the hit worthwhile, he told her. He didn't apologize and go, you know about to you know what we all know what we thought he was going to say if i had known you were a woman a police officer a woman yeah several other things i wouldn't have he said i should have hit you harder i don't know this is gonna cost me yeah i'd have blasted your face off i'd have made shit worthwhile. She also said that Robinson made several, quote, ethnic comments about the last name of her partner,

Officer Susan Ficini, of course. Referring to her as, quote, Fettuccine, and mimicking her as he was read his rights. Namaste, Choli. Anything else? Thanks, Cliff, you uncreative cunt. Thanks. Thanks a lot.

Very creative, Cliff. He's hammering the eye ties. And punching women. As soon as I first read that, I was like, for some reason, I just know it. Yep, that's exactly what I thought. I don't know why. It just fits perfect. Fettuccine. Thanks. Called's exactly what I thought. I don't know why. It just fits perfect.

Fettuccine. Thanks. Called her Fettuccine. Called her Fettuccine and mimicked her. So. Did he do like a Mario voice? I'm sure he was like, hey, it's a Fettuccine. I have the right to remain silent, huh?

No, but me. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, Cliff, you dick. You're such an asshole, Cliff. Officer Susan Fettuccine. Oh, boy. Robinson later denies having struck the policewoman, which is funny because everyone heard him saying, I'd hit you harder, all that shit.

He said he swung at other people in self-defense. He said, quote, you know what? Let's do it in their own words here. It's a short one, but I think it's worth it because this is, he punched a cop and that's pretty fucking funny. It feels very what were you wearing, but why were you there, Cliff? Yeah, what are you doing, Cliff? What are you doing? Let's find out.

In their own words, quote, I was in this place and some people were giving my brother a hard time. The next thing I knew, someone swung at me. I swung back. I was the only one picked up. I didn't hit any cops. I wasn't out of my mind and I wasn't drunk. You may not have been drunk. He said, yeah, he had a couple of drinks but didn't think he was drunk.

And people are swinging at him. So, God damn it. Yeah. So the Blazers said in a statement that they will reserve any comment on the alleged incident involving Cliff Robinson until he's had his day in court. In other words, fuck it. We're cool with it as long as he doesn't get in. As long as this goes away in the papers and nobody stops buying tickets we're fine with it hair silver fucking ready to go holy shit they said following the disposition of this matter

the trailblazers will take appropriate disciplinary action if it is called for at that time so um they said it didn't they didn't indicate that alcohol was a contributing factor in this incident he wasn't wildly drunk or anything like that alcohol was a contributing factor in this incident. He wasn't wildly drunk or anything like that. So they were like, that's okay. He was released on his own recognizance and joined by and joined the team for its trip to Dallas where they were playing the Mavericks in the best of five Western conference playoff series. Oh my God. He's going to the playoffs after punching a cop.

That's fucking insane. So, um, six hours before the incident, he had scored five points in their win over the Mavs. That's how he celebrates shit. Yeah. So that season, the Blazers beat the Mavericks. They sweep them in the first round. This is when the Mavs still sucked back then. Then a seven-game series, they beat the Spurs 4-3, edging them out.

I mean, this is David Robinson. This is the new Spurs here. Then they go to the Western Conference Finals and play who, Jimmy? The Lakers. The Phoenix Suns. Is that right? And beat them 4-2 in the series. They had to, yeah.

The Suns went to the championship that year? Went all the way to the conference. Isn't that weird? You never even know about it. Then they get smoked in five games in the finals by the Pistons who were running over people. I mean, that was just how they did it. Yeah, you weren't beating them at that point. They were smoking Michael Jordan on the way to the playoffs.

They were beating Jordan. They were beating the Celtics. They were tough. Was it Aguirre? Was he the starter? And then the rest of them are like fucking all Hall of Famers? Dumars? Dumars, Thomas,

Lambier, Thomas, and fucking, yeah, what's his fuck? Rick Mahorn on that team. Jesus Christ! Guys, that was a loaded up team, man. What a team! So May 3rd, 1990, this is a few days after the incident here. Now he's going to apologize.

Now he apologizes. He says, quote, I want to apologize to my teammates, coaches, and fans for the incident in which I was involved last Saturday night. He said, I have great respect for the Portland Police Department and recognize they were only there to do their job. Right now, all I want to concentrate on is the upcoming playoff series with San Antonio. So, yeah, yeah. That's sort of an apology. Yeah. For which I was involved.

He's not saying he did it. Who's he apologizing to? I don't know. His teammates. He said teammates, coaches, and fans. What about the lady? He didn't punch any of those people, by the way. No, not one of those people got punched.

They might have been fans beforehand, but probably not after that. Yeah. So at this point. I don't think Miss Fettuccine gives a fuck about you anymore. Fettuccine's throwing out all her Blazers jerseys at this point. She is not having the shit. Old Officer Fettuccine there. Fuck, man.

So May 30th, 1990, he apologizes to the police in portland so a month goes by and he apologizes to apologizes to fans and for punching a police woman in the face he pleads guilty to one degree of fourth degree assault which is a misdemeanor and they drop the disorderly conduct charge against him and they sentence sentence him to you, sir, may fuck off one year's probation and a $250 fine. And he has to perform 50 hours of community service and undergo counseling for anger management. James, go punch a female cop and see if you get that. From behind in the side of the head. Don't let her see it

coming not even head up like put your dukes up bitch we're going at it i will kick you right in the pussy don't fucking fuck with me run up and sneak her don't even let her know it's coming that is awesome um wow wow years. Go play basketball with some kids. That is wild, man. That is a that's I can't believe it. That is a light sentence. Good for him. He's a female cop.

And I was punching other people. He just said, right. I don't give a fuck. I'm in this brawl. I'm hitting people. Holy. So June 7th, 1990. He we hear from his family a little

bit here. And this is an article from the Buffalo News. So they're very proud of him. Local boy. Yeah. It says Blazer Mania hits Swish family Robinson. Swish family Robinson. Like Swiss family but with a basketball. Yeah. Oof. Blazer

Mania is the current fad throughout Oregon, but it's just as hot in one home in Buffalo. Forget Clyde Drexler, Jerome Kersey, or Terry Porter. On Chelsea Place, the number one Portland Trailblazer is Cliff Robinson. His family clustered around the television Tuesday night to watch Robinson, the Buffalo native and Portland rookie, play against the Pistons in the opener of the NBA finals. Yeah.

So they're saying his sister, Alicia, says it's been intense the whole playoffs. One game, I think I bit all my nails off to the very tip. And his mother said, it's the same as it's been for quite a while now. It's very exciting. The night they beat Phoenix to clinch the title, the phone was buzzing off the hook. Uh-huh. Yeah. And a cop's ears are still ringing.

They're ringing off the hook, too. Jesus Christ. He has a seven-year-old brother at this point, by the way. Really? That's how long of a stretch there is here. Hmm. So they say, he said, she said, this is mom, I talked to Clifford this afternoon.

He's real nervous, so I was just trying to calm him down. He's always had confidence in himself. He'll say, oh mom, don't worry, we'll win. I told him the same thing about this series. Well, mom was wrong. Mom was wrong. She said that she hasn't been able to find any Blazers jerseys in Buffalo.

Weird. She said, I went to some stores looking for Portland gear, and I couldn't find it anywhere. At one place, the clerk even said, trying to jump on the bandwagon, are we? No, I've been on this one for 22 years or so. He's my kid. They could have also asked him to send a sweatsh I don't know, 22 years or so. He's my kid. They could have also asked him to send a sweatshirt anytime in the last nine months or so. Yeah, there's a team shop. What the fuck, Cliff?

Hey, Cliffy, can you send some t-shirts for your brothers and sisters? I'm sure he gets them for free. What are we talking about here? Oh, man. She said, I really wanted him to play in a closer place so we could shoot over and see him. We've gone to Cleveland and Philadelphia, but it's too long of a flight to Portland. Fuck him. Yeah.

He's out there. I'm tired of this shit. They said, this is his sister Alicia, Clifford's tough times in college are paying off now. I read a quote from Coach Jim Calhoun where he said Clifford had helped set the table and now they were eating a great meal. He felt like he had a part in that team. He said, and she said, it's been amazing this run in Portland here. You ask him if he's excited and he just says, yeah. He's trying to take it in stride.

He's real low key about it. Here there's a lot of jumping, screaming, yelling, and high-fiving. And then they lost. They should probably smoke a bowl or two. Everybody should chill the fuck out a little bit here. So in the playoffs, he averages 6.5 points a game. So not too bad. 90-90, well, he's off the bench too.

90-91, 63-19 the Blazers are. Jesus Christ. Smoking hot. Fucking this year they beat Seattle in the first round. It goes all five. And then they beat seattle in the first round it goes all five and then they beat the jazz in the second round and then they go to the western conference finals where they lose to the lakers that year is that right yep in six 91 91 they lose to the lakers yeah wow is that the last time the lakers were any good until recently um Well, until the 2000s, until Kobe. Until Kobe, yeah.

Yeah. I mean, they went to the playoffs, but that was that Del Harris fucking era. It was a different era. Yeah. Vlade was the best they had. Yeah. Magic came back all fat after three years. That was weird.

James Worthy was over with. AC Green was already on the Suns. It was a different team. Exactly. Instead of Kareem Abdul-Jabbarbar they had vlade which is not the same uh we'll just say here kurt rambis yeah and he went to the suns too yeah this year cliffy plays 82 games starts 11 of them 11.7 points and uh 4.3 rebounds 1.8 assists so he goes up in every category yeah and his minutes go up a little bit too so that helps i think he's got to be able to play some minutes

to be able to actually do anything and the playoffs he averaged 10.3 points a game too so there you go contributed a little bit 90 91 he made 250 000 in salary wow Wow. Second round draft pick. Doesn't make a lot. Ouch. They're lucky to be there. 91-92, 57-25, the team goes. They beat the Lakers in the first round of the playoffs. This time they beat the Suns in the second round of the playoffs.

Then they beat the Jazz in six games in the Western Conference finals. Go all the way to the finals where we get a Sega game, a good Sega Genesis game out of it, Bulls Blazers, and they lose in six to Chicago. This is Jordan's first... Nobody's beating

them. Yeah, this is a big deal here. So this team that year, Cliffy averages 12.4 points a game, so much better. June 12th 1992 he uh there's a big article saying cliff climbs toward role as nba star they're calling him the blazers backup center at this point even though he's a power forward and plays small forward all half the time too

but there's a big article about how he's coming into his own and, you know, he's the best reserve guy. He's very versatile. And in the post season, he's a good guy. Yeah. One of his coaches said he's been improving every year. And I think he's going to continue to improve. He's going to be a very good player in this league.

I think he can be as good as he wants to be because he has all the physical tools to be an excellent player. And Cliff says the same thing he says i think i'm capable of being a consistent all-star in this league with continued development and added confidence i just need to keep doing what i'm doing yeah and he and he was he was so good he was really good i i loved i loved him i thought he was fucking excellent um so they said uh quote i just think that the people here in portland have had the opportunity to see cliff robinson to meet cliff robinson and to get to know him a lot of other teams didn't give me a chance to do

that they felt i was an attitude problem he's referring to himself in the third person that's a quote from weird now yeah he said He said Cliff Robinson twice in two sentences. Cliff, what the fuck are you doing? Uh, they felt that I was an attitude problem and that I didn't know where I got the, and I don't know where I got that rap from, but I'm happy where I am right now. I knew what kind of person I was and I am secure with who I am now. I know that I don't have a bad attitude. Okay. I would say so. Interesting here. There's another article about him dancing from here.

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It was no big deal. You've got your own dance, Cliff. They said the game, the playoff game, was preceded by a long scoreboard video that showed Robinson dancing to music that only he heard, putting his right foot in, his left foot out, shaking all about, while the blazer maniac sang revised lyrics to Do the Locomotion.

So they did a Do the Locomotion and showed Cliff Robinson dancing. So they said, there are Uncle Cliffy t-shirts. Arthur Murray Dance Studios will publish those footprint diagrams any day now chiropractors will warn the elderly no big deal robinson sashayed out there on sunday when the music died and shot two for 11 that's not great maybe practice some shooting drills instead of fucking dancing cliff oh my god two for 11. Two for 11.

They said the next Wednesday night it was Uncle Cliffy's turn. He played 27 busy minutes, scoring 17 points more than the entire Chicago bench combined. Wow. Grabbing six rebounds and having two steals and getting a big block on a Horace Grant shot down the stretch. Fuck. The coach, Rick Adleman, said, I didn't even know about the Uncle Cliffy until three days later. That shows you how aware I am as a coach.

That's not good. No. I don't think that's very good. Don't say that, Rick. You're going to get fired. That is fucking weird. Carlissimo is coming for your job next week. Yeah, no shit, man.

So they said he was playing very good defense and that was a big deal robinson who wears a headband varying the color with his mood i always wondered why yeah because he wore different color headbands i always wondered how you wear a red one a black one or a white or a white one yeah he said that um he wasn't going to allow dance critics to climb inside his head and fuck with him leave me alone he said everybody is gonna miss some shots i had to come back and keep my head up i can't let what anybody puts in the paper affect me i'm here to play

basketball i have to maintain a level of confidence a high level of self-esteem yeah that's right god damn it um so that's what he said uh that year in the playoffs 10.8 points a game. He makes $474,000 that year. There you go. Getting good now. 92-93, 51-31. They lose in the first round of the playoffs to San Antonio that year, which is rough. There's an SI article here. So Sports Illustrated did a piece on him. February 22, 1993.

And they said, Robinson brought daughter Jessica out to Portland last fall. Jessica is five. By some account, she's quite a handful. She creates her own space, Robinson says. He says, I swear she can sit and write her name perfect for a half hour, and then suddenly she can't make a letter. Yeah, five-year-old, that's called, I think, at that point. So they said, he said, due to his father, this is what they say in the article, due to his childhood, fatherhood was not something he understood all that well, except as a source of abandonment or disappointment. Sorry, Clarence.

Jesus, Clarence Horn. Didn't want him. Fuck him. I'd rather have that guy that's dead. Cliff Senior poisoned the well for Clarence. There's no winning for Clarence Horn. Didn't want him. Fuck him. I'd rather have that guy that's dead. Cliff Senior poisoned the well for Clarence. There's no winning for Clarence there. Clarence lost before the game started. Yep.

It was over while the video of him doing the locomotion was still playing. Cliff's junior year, Clarence had a son with Cliff's mom, and he still wasn't accepting him. He's like, you're leaving any day homes Clarence will be gone soon fuck that guy so he said as a sore they say as a source of abandonment or disappointment or in the case of Jessica as a reason to write a check oh the girl's mother he claimed dinged him for half his rookie salary which he thought was way out of line that seems like 125 she doesn't get to she doesn't get to ding you 125 grand seems a bit maybe that's a little bit much he said i didn't mind paying money i just thought it was too much yeah you don't let her set the price dude

they say in trying to get the child support case reopened two years ago so his payments might be reduced robinson suffered the shock of his young lifetime. The blood tests, which are done as a matter of course in such proceedings, showed that he could not have been Jessica's father. Oh, no. I will. Wow. I will treat you like a police woman at that point. It's like talking to Pauly walnuts at that point yeah you got two

fucking choices the first one includes me getting my money back yeah both of them include it but the one includes you limping for a while and one includes you not limping for a while my money back so which way do you want to do it you're gonna pay points on it now i'll tell you that much fuck that yeah you're paying points um wow wow they said this was stunning it was his out it was his out of course he was free and clear except that he would lie awake at night and wonder about jessica i wonder yeah what she's doing with my fucking money is what i'd be like i'm sorry found her real dad yeah i like kids and all but if the kid if the kid was 16 listen listen i'm sorry i'm being fucking as real as can be and the fact that jimmy's wiping tears from his eyes and took glasses off that's what i'm wondering i think you agree with

me here yeah i'm wondering why she's got such a nice couch yeah that's a real sweet care bear backpack you got there you little twat hand it over that's mine it better be full of cash from your mother or else we're going to have a fucking problem. That's mine. That's right. I swear to God. I swear to God. Oh, Jesus Christ. If this kid is 16, you go, well, fuck. You know what? It's my kid now.

It doesn't matter. Five? I'm sorry. That kid will barely fucking remember me that kid will barely remember me you remember a lot from pre-5 i don't fuck it who cares unless she's got your basketball card i mean fine that's great that's some yeah that's your uncle cliffy remember him we all remember it's everybody's Uncle Cliffy, you dumb... Don't worry about it. Pretentious bitch.

You don't get to claim him to yourself. Jesus Christ, man. Selfish asshole. Oh, you selfish little shit. What do you want? Fro-ups on my dime? Yeah, what the fuck? It's not even my game.

I'm being honest everybody this is honesty i can sit here and go well yeah because you know when you get an attachment to fuck that i ain't paying that kind of money for a kid that's not mine fuck you give it back fuck that you you should be able to write a check. You have a lot of money to afford pens. Yeah. Hey, if you want, point me to the real father. I'll get it out of his ass. But someone's paying me.

Somebody's paying me back. Someone's paying me back. I don't care who it is. It's so funny. At this point, fuck. Put that little Jessica in some commercials. Make her work for me. I don't care who it is. It's so funny. At this point, fuck. Put that little Jessica in some commercials. Make her work for me. I don't know.

See if she's cute. I don't know what she's doing with my fucking money. That's right. That's what I'm lying awake wondering. Gave her 125 grand. Did she buy a house? What did she do with that fucking money i'd be wondering what i could have done with that money yeah fuck yeah not buy barbie dolls i'll tell you that no daydreaming about a boat that she stole from me stole my boat

hi little girl. You boat-stealing bitch. Hey, Jessica. You dream-snatching, boat-stealing bitch. I should have a boat called the Jessica, you little asshole. When I get my money back, that's what I'm gonna buy. I'm gonna put your name on the back and send you a

fucking picture. Take it out of your mom's ass. I'm going to fucking be pissed. If you want one, you can work hard too. Yeah, get a boat, grow to 6'10". I don't know what to tell you. Work it out. He goes on to say, the girl's mother was still going it alone back in his old neighborhood and she had been burdened with two additional children.

It's not like somebody dropped them off on her porch she had two additional children these are her kids there are kids where are these where's the fucking oh my god so good lord he would lie awake worried what kind of life lay ahead for jessica of course it wasn't his problem and that's where the article should end it of course it wasn't his problem anyway portland kicks off the season against seattle next season. Cliffie's looking to be in the starting lineup because he has his mind free and clear of this fucking kid that he doesn't have to

pay for. This is not his kid. Yes. Of course it wasn't his problem. He liked Jessica, was crazy about her in fact, but she did slow him down. No way it was his problem. The fact of the matter, and this is what kept him awake, was that it was Jessica's problem. So with the tenuous blessing of Jessica's mother, Cliff brought the little girl to Portland in October.

It's not your kid! Tenuous blessing of her mother. Yes, please take this child and pay for everything she wants for the next few months. I got two more if you're interested in any. You looking for a boy? They're not yours either either in the market for a boy you're who's not yours looking for a four-foot manifestation of another guy's jizz because i have others here it is somebody else's over incubated yes exactly over incubated is the greatest way to put that holy shit wow so they say jessica lives with him and his sister not even a visit to live

his sister his sister elisa there uh herself a single parent and a basketball player for the aau portland saints the this summer he plans to begin the process of legally adopting jessica Elisa there, herself a single parent and a basketball player for the AAU Portland Saints. This summer he plans to begin the process of legally adopting Jessica. What the fuck is happening? Taking her in the second round, you might say, is the end of it. Which is such a

hilarious way to put that. Swartz Illustrated said, taking her in the second round, you might say. And I was like, that's better than anything I came up with, so good for you. taking her in the second round, you might say. And I was like, that's better than anything I came up with. So good for you. Taking her in the second round. Second round. 30 teams overlooked her also.

Yeah. At least one other guy. Oh, man. That's fucking hilarious. Jesus Christ. That's a brutal last line. That is brutal. So now he's legally adopted a kid he has no legal tie to but now he has he has made his own legal ties to this child yeah

through guilt so this season he plays in 82 games so he's played in every game of every season that he's been in the nba uh which is pretty. That shows how the best, they always say the best ability is availability. So if you're hurt, it doesn't matter how good you are, because it doesn't matter. Last Eric Rose, who cares? Yeah, Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, he only starts 12 games, though, because he's the sixth man. He wins the NBA Sixth Man of the Year Award.

Is that right? Yeah, he takes that home, that's always his his role i mean he's the best at it he's so fucking good he averages 19.1 points a game which is for a non starter yeah how the fuck do you do that as a non-starter that's incredible here uh 6.6 rebounds 2.2 assists he's got two blocks a game that year which which is center numbers. That's pretty damn good. And 1.2 steals also. He's fucking good. 31.4 minutes per game played. So that's a lot for a bench guy.

He also makes $1,665,000. That is a pay increase. That's Jessica's lucky little kid, boy. Yeah. Imagine that. Your non-father father who's rich and famous is going to adopt you what is she fucking willis and arnold drummond this is ridiculous a real different the guy your mom lied to with their fingers crossed hoping just happened to be a decent fucking person you better

be thankful more than decent just fuck 93 94 trail 93-94 Trail Blazers, 47-35. So they just get a few games worse every year since 92. Because it's kind of the same team. They haven't really. Yeah. They added like Cliff Dudley and Rod Strickland. The difference is the West was getting so fucking strong. It was good.

Yeah. And Phoenix became a bigger powerhouse. And Seattle was really good. And Malone started getting good with Stockton down there. Those twoah god damn the west was great was a fucking they were unbeatable and in 93 94 they lose to houston in the first round of the playoffs and nothing wrong with that as we know now houston was just they were unstoppable that year so uh this season here he's an all-star this year as well okay which is pretty fucking great plays in all 82 games starts 64 this year wow 20.1 points 6.7 rebounds 1.9 assists 1.4 steals fucking killing

it they must have put him in at center and he's just fucking playing center this season yeah that's what it is and that's a fast fucking lineup He played his first two years mainly power forward. Then he played small forward in 91, 92. Then back to power forward. Now he's playing center and starting rather than being off the bench. And the fastest center in the fucking league, too. So rather than being off the bench at small forward, he's now a starting center. That's how versatile this fucking guy is.

That's incredible. Incredible stuff here. He makes $2,336,000 also this year. Yeah, you bet. In 93 money. That is goddamn good. 94-95, Blazers 44-38. So getting worse and worse and worse.

They lose in the first round. They get swept by the Suns that year. Oh. Swept by them. No shame there. February 22, 1995, his streak of consecutive games is over. He's played in every game he's been in the league. It was 461 straight games.

And he finally missed a game with a sprained ankle. It was a six-year span. Third longest streak in the current NBA. Longest current streak he had going on. The streak is still the franchise record for the Blazers. Really, today? Yep, still to this day. So nowadays, the guys sit out all the time.

It's considered fucking resting and all that shit. So guys don't play 82 games for no reason anymore. So that year he only played in 75 games, 73 21.3 points a game so he's gone up in points per game every single year he's been in the league incredible he's gone up 5.6 rebounds 2.6 assists 1.1 steals 1.1 blocks goddamn good 2 million 732 thousand dollars fantastic uh 95 96 pj carlissimo takes over there he is there he is i knew he was coming he's coming somewhere you're out uh 44 and 38 they go and they lose to the jazz in the first round of the playoffs so now they're just that first round playoff lost team yeah that's how this team goes

this is when they become the jailblazers too too, around this time. The Sabonis finally comes on the team now. Oh! Yeah, Rameel Robinson, Harvey Grant, Chris Dudley, Rod Strickland. They're an exciting team. Buck Williams still on the team in his 14th year. Jesus! This year, Cliffie, 21.1 points a game, 5.7 rebounds, 2.4 assists. Like the same exact year he had last year.

Yeah. Damn good um and now he's now he's playing power forward because arvidas is the true center yeah no he's and this is the fast tough lineup he's now playing small forward really yes he went from not he went from playing center to then moving to small forward after who the fuck do they have playing power forward now uh power for williams harvey grant is oh yeah harvey grant it was a starter yeah harvey grant Who the fuck do they have playing power forward now? Power forward. Buck Williams. Harvey Grant is their power forward. Oh, yeah, Harvey Grant, too. Harvey Grant was a starter.

Harvey Grant, Reggie Slater, Gary Trent was also on the team. Jesus Christ. Yeah, they had a bunch of power forwards. Big, tough. And then Buck Williams also. Yeah. And they had Dudley backing up Sabonis, and they also had Elmore Spencer at center, too. So they had a lot of big guys up front.

$3,018,000 that year. Now, July 29th, 1996. There's an article here that is hilarious. First it's Cliff Robinson and then right under it, it's even better. It's Robinson and his agent are

unhappy with the Blazers. They say they claim the Blazers broke a promise when they picked when the team picked up the forward's $3. Really? Yeah. They say they claim the Blazers broke a promise when the team picked up the forward's $3.2 million option. He had an option, but he wanted to sign a long-term deal. And they were like, oh, we'll just pick up your option for cheap. So his agent said, if something doesn't get done, then I can tell you right now, Clifford doesn't want to be in Portland.

They had asked for a seven-year, $84 million contract. What? get done then i can tell you right now clifford doesn't want to be in portland they had they had asked for a seven year 84 million dollar contract what instead got a one year 3.2 million dollar contract was much different so the difference of about 81 million dollars in that deal we're we're not exactly close to uh it looks like's like, you don't understand. I got a teenage girl here. This life is getting expensive. Yeah. How many other kids out there aren't mine that I'm going to pay for? It could be as-

I need $84 million. It's infinite, really. It could be billions of them. Oh, man. So the agent said that Robinson was promised a lucrative new contract two years ago during a meeting with Paul Allen, who is the owner of the Blazers and a huge billionaire. But now Robinson and Marshall believe they were misled by the team's president and general manager. The team's president said, he's Bob Witsit, he said that no promise was ever made.

He said, I was very clear on that two years ago. So, yeah, they picked up. I thought we were talking to Ramil, actually. I missed it. There was also another Robinson on this team, too, James Robinson. They had James, Cliff, and Ramil Robinson all on this team. I misunderstood my Robinson. I didn't know which Robinson I was talking to.

I'm so sorry. He said that when the Blazers picked up his option, they made it so he can't make any more money this year. And the agent said Bob broke a promise. He wasn't supposed to pick up the option. He was supposed to sign a new deal at the same time as Robinson's option was due, and he didn't do that. And they said that Cliff can't do anything about this until he is a free agent now. So his agent said what Cliff probably should do is play it out he's got no choice in the matter right he's got to play it out and then try to get

a new deal they said that uh that the president had no business giving out a seven-year 46.68 million dollar contract to kenny anderson or working a trade for isaiah rider until robinson was taken care of. Oh. He said they fucked up their priorities here. Yeah. Right under that, it's Warrior Smith turned self in. Okay. J.R. Smith?

This is fucking great. No, Joe Smith. Remember him? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Joe Smith turned himself into police and was arrested Sunday after the Golden State Warriors forward was accused of smashing a beer bottle on the back of a male exotic dancer during a barroom brawl. That's a headline.

I have so many questions. There's a lot of questions. Why were there male exotic dancers in a place you were? Where are you, Joe Smith? Yeah. What are you hanging out at? The dancer required 22 stitches to close his gash, which is funny because that's a great line. To close his gash.

Hilarious. Joe fucked that man up. He hit him with a fucking beer bottle in the back of the head. Opened him up. Yeah, like it's the Old West or something. He's going behind fucking breaking shit on people's head. The dancer required 22 stitches, and another dancer contends Smith and his group wanted the floor to themselves early Friday so the player could begin celebrating his 21st birthday. 21 years old.

21 years old. That's a good age to smash a beer bottle over the head of your first male exotic dancer. That's a really good age for that. That's fun. He got male strippers for his birthday. That's cute. Well done, Joe. Hey, nice job, Joe. I'm sure the old fellas loved that.

It really was. He was ahead of his time. Chesapeake policewoman Elizabeth Jones says Smith showed up at the police station with his lawyers at about noon. He was released on his own recognizance and is to appear in court later on. Jones said the malicious wounding charge is a class two felony in which prison sentences generally run from five years to life. Holy. That's a lot.

Len Elmore, Smith's former agent said the allegations that smith attacked anyone surprised him l they had already not agents anymore but he said it doesn't sound like something joe smith would do oh okay all right never mind then yeah i guess it's good fuck it it probably didn't happen don't worry i'm sure it's fine 96 97 uh The Blazers are 49-33 and still getting bounced in the first round of the playoffs this time by L.A. L.A. this year, yeah. This is Isaiah Ryder, Jermaine O'Neal's rookie year this year. Wow. Because they drafted him, if you remember.

So bonus, Trent Rasheed Wallace is in his second year on the team this year. This is a stacked fucking. Like in the 90s, this is like Kenny Anderson, Stacey Augman's on this team. This is like, if you could run with any team as a playground team, this is your squad. So fun.

Yeah. Augman was fucking made of plastic. Jesus. This is so Aaron McKee. This is a great team to watch. A lot of fun. I loved Rasheed Wallace too. Another guy. Stacey Augman was so much fun. Great player. Yeah, he came from Atlanta, I guess, at that point.

Because I know he was in Atlanta for a while there. Yeah, he played with Dominique for three, four years before he moved up there. That's right. So January 11, 1997, the Blazers suspend Cliffie. He is suspended for one game for his actions in a loss two nights earlier against Miami. He referred to P.J. Carlissimo with an expletive after being

pulled out of the game. He called him a name. He probably called him Fettuccine because he's Carlissimo. Hey, P.J. Fettuccine. P.J. Cacciatore. Fuck you, man. P.J PJ Cavatelli can suck my dick. Hear me?

You heard? Cataloni. Yeah. So there he is. He's going to sit out a game against Detroit. That year, that's his only game he missed. He played in 81 games otherwise. Started 79, down to 15.1 points a game though for some reason i guess

that's a stacked team too yeah i mean how's he getting minutes yeah well he's got 38 minutes a game he's got plenty of minutes but oh the ball gets distributed a lot i think around this team to keep people happy yeah you got jr rider he's a fucking ball hog you got guys like that um he He makes $2,924,000 that year. Not bad. Now, July 31st, 1997. Free agency. Well, that and a little bit of an incident here. Uh-oh. He's a free agent, and he was seen getting into his vehicle with his brothers and friends on the way to play in a paintball tournament.

Oh. Okay. A neighbor of his, looking their nosy, not own business-minding asses out their window, saw a group of five men getting into a car with what they perceived as assault rifles. What? They're going to play paintball. They're paintball guns. It's like his brothers and shit

are going to play paintball with him. So they saw these people getting into a car carrying big guns and called the cops and had no fucking idea what a paintball gun is nope none at all wow you know that that big jug of shit on top of the gun the most no yes no guns have that no guns have a fucking reservoir of bright pink balls in them. For the most part. There might be some. A giant jug welded to the top of this gun. What do you think that is?

A lime green fucking ball. You think that's Gatorade in case you get thirsty during your fucking massacre? In case you get thirsty while you're slaughtering school children. So, yeah, his vehicle was, they pulled him, I mean, they did the full felony stop with the blockade. They did a whole fucking thing. They closed off streets. Oh, my God, how embarrassing. They got tanks and shields, and they acted like these guys were on their way to fucking, you know, take down the White House or something.

That's what they were acting like. Rather than five dudes in their 20s going to play paintball. One of them a very famous person in this area for numerous years. Yeah. So with news cameras rolling and numerous assault rifles pointed at their they had the whole fucking news was there helicopters were swimming around there's a big disturbance downtown portland all this shit cliff robbins had no idea what was going on he's at gunpoint he's like what the fuck is happening i have no idea what you're doing uh so then they got him away and he's they why he watched as the

officers located the paintball guns in the vehicle, stood there looking at them and looking at each other like, this isn't what we're looking for, right? Then tore the car apart to look for other shit. Anything else, yeah. Because they were like, well, these aren't the guns, obviously. Maybe there are other guns. No one could think that all these tiny yellow balls on top of the gun would be. This can't be what someone called in. is an illegal search now right well and for cliff here there was a roach from a joint in the armrest i'm sure there was a fucking roach from a joint oh boy in an armrest it wasn't located

it was in the passenger armrest by the way um which is not in, well, it's probably in his reach, but it's not technically. They don't consider that in a car, the reach. It probably has his fingerprints on it because it probably went around the car a few times. Sure it did. It was a Hummer, like the Hummer Ones with the big middle console, so he actually might not have been able to reach it here. Probably not. But somehow he's charged with cannabis possession it's his car rather than going hey what we just did was crazy um we are so sorry you have a roach let's just call this a wash

shake hands you're embarrassed we're embarrassed i'm embarrassed it's all good instead they're fine and he gets he gets arrested for having a roach. Well, yeah, because we just spent all this gas money to stop you with all these vehicles. There's a helicopter up there. Someone has to be taken away in cuffs. We got to go somewhere. You block off a road. Whether it's a drop or not.

Yeah. You block off a street for a half hour. There better be some handcuffs involved. There better not. Yeah, just get in. Okay, guys, drive safe. And then you pull off that can't be the way it works that's what they're doing to save face how embarrassing it's fucking ridiculous um the media's coverage now um it went from like this should have been what the fuck first of all

everybody should be red facedfaced this is bad but instead it somehow turned into not what big fuck-ups the cops are and how people should mind their own fucking business and also hey how not every five black guys is going out to kill everybody in the mid-90s which is also a thing that was a big deal those are not going that ain't it instead it was yep there's cliff being an irresponsible asshole letting everybody down again. That's literally what the narrative was. Cliff found with a weed again. What a bum.

All this shit. It's like, what are you talking about? Everybody should be wearing a red headband right now to match the color of their face. Exactly. 23 years later in 2020, the city of Portland admitted what was reported was not the whole story and issued a formal apology to Cliff Robinson. Oh, the poor bastard. But at that point, I mean, it was 23 years later. The damage is done. It's over.

It doesn't matter. You cost him money is what you did. He's been out of the NBA for fucking 10 years now. If you think that didn't affect his contract, you're out of your fucking mind you're out of your fucking mind yeah so here's from the albany democrat herald uh august or july 31st 1997 braze uh blazers brush with the law again oh wow because uh gary trent was accused of punching a man several times in the face and choking him after the man said he accidentally set off a burglar alarm in trent's home so rather than resetting it he chose to pummel the man which is a he just beat the guy

yeah uh meanwhile cliff robinson was cited by portland police for possession of marijuana it's the third time this year that trent has been accused of assault he'll definitely get his own episode by the way we're in i can't wait all about gary trent for sure because he uh that's a lot um yeah they said that uh yeah some guy spent the night at his house we'll go over it when he gets his own episode but the uh the cliff robinson thing was another another problem here the alleged weapon turned out to be a paintball gun and uh that's that so at that point i can't believe they they kept looking further in that car they should have said oh we're fucking idiots oh my god this lady said you guys had guns oh we fucked up bad so august 25th 97 signs as a free agent with the sons couldn't have been worse

timing like less than a month before he needs a new contract his value just plummeted yeah plummeted especially with the stupid Colangelos and their fucking, you know, all their bullshit. Cannellonios there. So, uh, 97-98 Suns. 56-26.

They were still decent for the next year or two. This is a team in transition, by the way. You got Sed Sabalis, you got Rex Chapman. KJ's still there, but also Jason Kidd. KJ and Jason Kidd on the same fucking team. I didn't know that.

Danny Manning on that team. George McCloud. Antonio McDyess. A young Steve Nash. You had fucking Kevin Johnson, Jason Kidd, and Steve Nash on the same squad. For what? That's crazy. Didn't they do the trade with Nash and Kidd and Steve Nash on the same squad. For what? That's crazy. Didn't they do the trade with Nash and Kidd?

They traded to get... Because they were both at Dallas at one point, too. The Suns drafted Nash. Yeah, but Kidd and Nash were both at Dallas at one point, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Jamal Mash. Yes, they were. And then they went back.

That's so weird. Dennis Scott was on this team. Remember, yeah, yeah. With Jamal Mashburn. Yes, they were. And then they went back. That's so weird. Dennis Scott was on this team. Remember? I forgot about Dennis Scott. Yeah, I do. I do remember that. Hot Rod Williams was their center. Yeah.

Him. And remember Horatio Lamas? No. No? He was a fat Mexican guy. That's exactly. I assumed. He was a fat guy from Mexico that went to Grand Canyon University.

So he was like a local guy, and he played like two minutes a game in garbage time. And when he'd come in, the entire upper deck would erupt in cheers. It was like fucking soccer chants would be going on. Easy! They'd go fucking crazy up there. It was hilarious. Good stuff there. It was hilarious. Good stuff there. So that year, Cliffy, 14.2 points a game.

He's down to 29.5 minutes because that's a stacked team, too. There's a lot going on on that team here. But he's still a good player for Phoenix here. Makes a million dollars that year for the Suns. He wanted $84 million. I think he got a bonus or something here though um now 8 98 99 phoenix 27 and 23 that's the strike year uh they lose to the blazers fucking get swept by the blazers there in the playoffs that year and this year on this team

um yeah he ends up with 16.4 points per game, was seventh in the defensive player of the year voting as well. Wow. So very good. Played in all 50 games and played some damn good defense. It's at this point here I should mention he has at least, and this is besides young Jessica who we know isn't his, actual his own.

Is it six? His own little jizz snowmen. He has at least seven children. Seven. That we know of. Wow. That we can patch together. So that could be.

We don't know if they're lying or not. How many of those are his? If they are, he'd just feel guilty anyway. There could be five more or five less. We have no idea. In the ballpark of seven. He's very guilty. What are you doing, Cliff?

His son, Isaiah Robinson, played basketball for Jefferson High in Portland and the Houston Baptist Huskies for college. So not too bad there. He makes a kid who plays ball. Makes $3.5 million this year for his son. So he definitely didn't get that giant contract he wanted no he didn't no and that really hurt him was that fucking one stupid arrest 99 2000 53 and 29 this is the danny ange scott skiles team they both coach remember with the the was

it robert ory throwing a towel and fucking angel's face and all that kind of shit. He had to go after that. Penny Hardaway on this team. They still had Kevin Johnson that late. What? Jesus, doesn't he have kid touching to do? No shit. He's got a lot of mayoral kid touching to work on there. Sean Marion's rookie year. This is when they got Luke Longley.

Oliver Miller on this team. Rodney Rogers. They hung on to Oliver Miller for this team, Rodney Rogers. They hung on to Oliver Miller for 10 fucking years almost? For the seventh season he's in. Good Lord. They had Penny Hardaway, Kevin Johnson, Jason Kidd all on the same team this year. Why?

I don't know. What the fuck is happening? That's wild. This is when Penny was like, his career was basically fucked because he hurt himself. He was so great before. This is when they signed Gug Google out of that big deal. Dude, I saw him last week. Thank God he looks like shit. I hope so.

He does. He looks so bad. He looks 100 years old. He deserves it with all that money. Hopefully it's like some sort of Greek legend. He's probably worrying about how to spend it. Yeah. It aged him.

I don't know how to spend all this money. It's killing me. What do I do? The weight of it just crushed his... Yeah. He probably feels bad for how big his bank account is. He's got to. And that's what's crushing him, is the regret that Cliff Robinson doesn't have any money

and he has all of it. He's got it all. I took all of Cliff Robinson's got it all i'll take i took all cliff robinson's money feeling good he comes up with january 17 2000 he has a career high this year they say 11 years ago cliff robinson wasn't drafted until the second round because of concerns about his attitude that's how they start this out with oh my god jason kidd said it's not just on the offensive end he plays both ends of the court. He's a warrior. He wants to go out and win every game.

He makes my job a lot easier. He scores 50 in a game that day. Really? Yep, not too shabby. He said, I just think I'm confident about what I do. I've played against a lot of guys in the NBA. I know what I can do against certain guys. I think I've just kind of matured into the type

of player that I am now where I better understand where I can attack defenders. Who did you drop 50 on? They dropped 50 on the Nuggets. Oh, okay. They should be. Shitty at that point. He became the oldest player in NBA

history to get his first 50-point game. He's 33 years old-point game. 38? He's 33 years old, two months. What? Oldest guy to have his first game. Because normally that's, you know, you don't have a huge game when you're 23 or something. 26, Jordan and Kobe and those guys.

He was, I believe, eighth in the defensive player of the year voting. And so he was a great player that year. Just fucking really nasty only played uh minute wise 35.5 minutes a game but had 18.5 points doing just fine and making 6.125 million dollars oh shit not bad 2000 2001 sons scott skiles coaching now christ now we got vinnie del negro cory blunt tony tony delk mario ellie they have everybody else fucking elliot perry all these soccer soccer leaders when they got him the center that didn't work a bunch of people from other teams none of these guys are drafted these are guys at the end. This is when they were patching together guys' fourth best teams, fourth best players and putting them on this team.

But February 5th, 2001 is when he gets arrested. He gets arrested. He's the team's leading scorer at the time, by the way, Cliff is. He's arrested, charged with marijuana and drug paraphernalia possession and driving under the influence. charged with marijuana and drug paraphernalia possession and driving under the influence this was where of course in scottsdale at 1 30 a.m which if you've ever been to phoenix if you played there for years you know don't drive in scottsdale at 1 30 a.m unless you want to get pulled over you just don't do it you're getting stopped yeah they're it's they're fucking everywhere that's what they do crawling i've never seen a more heavy police presence than this.

It's fucking insane. So there's just teams looking for the bars and the strip clubs. And this is the heyday of the toughest DUIs laws in the country. Oh, yeah. This is it right here. If you had two beers, we'll make you sleep in the desert for a month with fucking in a hole in the ground while animals ass fuck you. Ridiculous. So they stopped him for going 55 in a 40.

That's a little fast. Cutting it short there. But that's where everyone drives on Scottsdale Road or anywhere over there. And weaving in and out of traffic. That's probably the problem. Okay, that's not good. He initially refused to get out of the car, number one. I don't blame him.

Every time he gets out of the car, it's trouble. He's like, listen, I'm a tall drink of water. I'm going to keep myself folded on up in here. You don't need to stretch me out. I'm all right. Last time I got out of the car, there were a lot of guns involved. Yeah, it was rough. He's driving a yellow porsche

too like if you could possibly draw more attention to yourself weaving in and out of traffic than driving a yellow porsche i'm not sure how that's possible why would you so they said he initially refused ended up getting out of the car then appeared to be disoriented as he twice refused a field sobriety test yeah and then they also discovered some weed and a pipe in one of his bags. Smoking a bowl. Leave a bowl. Not even, like, actively. It was in his bag in the back.

I smoked that a while ago. Yeah. It's for the hotel later or something, whatever. He was released on his own recognizance and charged with two felonies, possession of marijuana and possession of drug paraphernalia. Yes, that was a felony in Phoenix until they made it just completely legal. It went from one day a felony to the next day in joy, perfectly fine. Not even a DUI.

Yeah, no, and a misdemeanor DUI. This was the third problem with a member of the Sons in the law this year. Yeah. That's why. So it was because Jason Kidd got arrested on domestic violence. See our Jason Kidd episode where we talk all about it. And then Penny Hardaway was charged with threatening his mother, the mother of his daughter, with a gun.

Remember that one? No. I do remember that. That charge was later dropped. Okay. Apparently he didn't point it at her. He told her he was going to shoot her. He just brandished it. I will shoot you with That charge was later dropped. Okay. Apparently he didn't point it at her. He told her he was going to shoot her. He just brandished it.

I will shoot you with my gun that you know I have. You know where it is. Yeah. So they were very freaked out, the sons. Robinson said, I want to say this is a very embarrassing situation for myself, especially under the circumstances we've been going through. I definitely want to apologize to my teammates and the organization for putting added stress on the team. He scored 16.4 points per game that year

and started all 82 games and played 33.5 minutes and played great defense and rebounded tough and did all of that and made $6,890,000 and Colangelo's wanted him gone. Scumbag. Costing us $7 million. What a piece of shit.

How dare he play great defense and smoke weed. We'll go over that roster and figure out who smoked weed, and he's not the only one. He wasn't smoking by himself after the game. They trade him to the Pistons for Judd Bushler and John Wallace. That's who they got for him. What? That's why the Suns suck, because they will trade a great player for Judd Bushler and John Wallace because he had weed in his car.

Rather than just going, grow up, fan base. These are giant men who fucking smoke weed after they play basketball for a living. Nothing they do you can relate to. Their lives are completely different than yours. Stop worrying about it. Shut the fuck up and watch them dunk. Did you make seven million dollars last year? You don't relate to

him. You don't relate to any of this shit, you fucking assholes. Show me your yellow Porsche. Yeah, you got a yellow porsche i didn't think so where's your paintball gun where's your daughter that's not even yours that you adopt anyway does that happen no it's a pretty good guy he's a decent cat this guy i would say all bullshit aside he seems like a decent guy apart from punching that female and saying i would have hit you harder if i knew I was going to jail.

That was a lot. But, I mean, that also was a long time ago. That could have been the alcohol talking. We don't know. And a long time ago, too. Yeah, yeah. I mean, he might have matured some after that. So with the Pistons that year, 2001, 2002, they go 50-32.

Wow. So not bad. They beat the Raptors in the first round of the playoffs and then get their asses kicked by the Celtics in the second round of the playoffs. He rejoins Rasheed there, doesn't he? On this team, we have Jerry Stackhouse, Corliss Williamson, Ben Wallace. Yeah. It's that team.

Okay, no Rasheed yet. No, Dana Barrows, though. He gets back with them again. Yeah, yeah. So there's that. He scores 14.6 points per game that year. But, I mean, he's Cliff Robinson. He's doing exactly what you want him to do.

All the little things that guys don't do is what he does. Plays hard. He also makes $7,656,250 that year. He's done great. Not too, I would say, yeah. Jesus, he's made almost not to i would say yeah jesus he's made almost 50 million dollars fuck yeah july 11 2000 cliff robinson has pleads guilty to misdemeanor marijuana possession in detroit no in phoenix phoenix has to plead guilty to this he's sentenced to you sir

they fuck off 12 months probation okay so they gave him a year of probation which was the same as he got for punching a woman yeah with a badge on yeah punching a woman with a badge and a gun fucking ridiculous and 750 fine and 24 hours of community service and the possession of the drug paraphernalia charge was dropped because that's ridiculous um yeah they said that his blood alcohol level was 0.146 oh he was pretty heavy at that time the dui limit was 0.10 still in arizona oh really that was point extreme wasn't 0.15 no a regular was 0.10 they didn't even have extreme yet. They didn't pass extreme until years later. That was a thing, yeah.

How about that? So he pleaded guilty to the drunken driving charge as well and served 24 hours of jail time to do that, and that's to do alcohol counseling. So the next year, exact same record, 50-32 for the Pistons. This year they beat the magic in the playoffs they beat the sixers in the playoffs then get swept by the nets in the eastern conference final really they'll go on to get shit hammered by the lakers with kobe and fucking shack so that wasn't

even it was a sad deal richard hamilton on the team now another yukon guy uh richard richard hamilton danny man's on this team. Tayshaun Prince. Very end. Got to be right. For Danny? Yeah. Year 14 for Danny.

Jesus Christ. It's 13 for Cliffy. Yeah. Yeah, you're not right. Getting up there. So this year, 12.2 points a game. So it's going down. He went all the way up to a peak, and then he started going down again. But he's still, Cliff Robinson still fills in a lot yeah eight million four hundred twenty one thousand dollars

at that point holy shit then he's traded by the pistons to golden state at that point it's cliff and pepe sanchez what yes there was an nba player named pepe sanchez which i was unaware of i'll be honest with you. Definitely didn't remember old Pepe out there. I think he was Speedy Gonzalez's other cousin. Not Slowpoke Rodriguez. He was a different guy. For Bob Sura.

Oh, yeah, the little guy. I forgot all about Bob Sura. He was so good. September 21, 2003, Cliffy gets married. It's about time. Cliffy, you've got nine kids. This one's not even mine. I don't know.

You got any kids, I'll adopt them. Fuck it. This is Heather Lufkins he marries here. Her parents are John and Gina Lufkins. This is like the marriage announcement of, of, uh, where are they from? I don't fucking know. It doesn't matter. They got married in Barbados.

Oh, they're yeah. So the bride wore a custom made European gown of white silk and char moose, char mouse, flash chiffon. Who the fuck cares? I don't know why. Shamoy.

Okay. Shamoy. I'll take your word for it. That's what Jackson says, right? Yeah. Chamoy. Okay. Chamoy. I'll take your word for it. It's something Michael Jackson says, right? Yeah. Chamoy. Flash your phone. Chamoy.

That's Michael's thing, and he grabs his dick. It's either him or RuPaul that says it, but somebody says it. Yeah, one of them says it. I think it's chammy. Is it a chammy cloth? Is that what she's wearing? I think she's wearing a nice chammy. It's a nice chammy there. It's's chamois. Is it a chamois cloth? Is that what she's wearing? I think she's wearing a nice chamois.

It's a nice chamois there. It's a chamois. And then afterwards, if the car's wet, you can get it dry really quick with only one small towel. It's pretty amazing. It's the wedding night. You're going to need this chamois. You're going to need the old chamois there. She was actually given away by her father. That's nice.

Oh, that's nice. Very nice. The reception was held in detroit oh married in barbados and then in detroit reception in detroit all right yeah flower girls were the daughter of the bride and the daughter of the groom so she has more kids let's add to this um and the ring bearer was jaylen robinson who is his son okay so who the fuck knows how many kids he has and where they are 2003 2004 golden state you know 37 and 45 they sucked yeah that is uh under coach eric musselman jesus christ i forgot he was a coach i forgot he was a coach i forgot about er Musselman. He's probably still in the league somewhere as like strength and conditioning. I'm sure.

Some assistant or some front office guy assistant to the general manager or some bullshit. Somebody latching on to make money. Rex Chapman is employed by the Suns for some reason. Yeah, he is. I don't know what the fuck he does. I don't know. Does he teach people how to dunk? I don't know.

I don't know. Maybe he teaches them how to be on Twitter. I don't know what he does. Yeah, teaches them how to rep i don't know i don't know maybe he teaches them how to be on twitter i don't know what he does yeah teaches him how to repost repost shit on twitter teaches them to get a gmail account so they can get twitter yeah do that there you go done okay i'm gonna go now uh this team interesting mix of people on this team calvert uh calbert cheney yeah speedy claxton eric dampier Chaney, yeah. Yeah, Speedy Claxton, Eric Dampier, Mike Dunleavy, Adonald Foyle, Avery Johnson, Popeye Jones. What? Yeah, Cherokee Parks.

Wow. Jason Richardson, second year. That piece of shit. Yep. Cliff Robinson and Nick Van Exel. Wow. Yeah. So, weird team.

That is a bizarre team. Bizarre mixture. Maybe that's why they sucked. Only 11.8 points per game, but he's eighth in defensive player of the year voting. Really? Yeah. He plays in all 82 games, but they miss the playoffs. This is his first time in his career that he does not play in the playoffs.

First time. Every other time his team made the playoffs. Ouch. He does make $4.7. First time. Every other time his team made the playoffs. Ouch. He does make $4.7 million, though. Not bad. And he had to play with Jason. Keep your wife away from that guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Watch out for that. Jesus Christ. He's a brand new wife. That's why he had to put a ring on it. Jason's going to sneak in there. Jason's coming to town. Oh, fuck, man. I don't want to play with him.

So 2004, 2005 Warriors. 34-48, even worse. Coach Mike Montgomery now. Their executive is Chris Mullen, it says. Really? Very nice, yeah. They have pretty much the same team, adding Baron Davis to it. And Derek Fisher, I guess. Bring some gunplay here.

Throw him in there. Yeah, why not? 8.5 points a game for Cliffie. Only plays in 42 games. Starts 29. Oh, no. Things are starting to go downhill. But in the Calgary Herald from February 2, 2005, there's an article that says,

Who's in trouble today? I guess it's a who's fucking up today thing. Yeah. Who's fucking up today thing? Yeah. And the Robinson was suspended Tuesday for five games without pay for violating the NBA's drug policy. Robinson did not dispute the league's decision, but refused to reveal the specific violation. Robinson said, I wouldn't say they're wrong.

It's their position and you have to abide by that. I've always been someone who will stand up and accept when I'm wrong and that's the case ok that's right there you guys yeah you still couldn't fucking smoke weed and fail a test they used to test the guys at the beginning of the season though which was and so all the guys would like stop smoking

for a month and then they'd do the test and then they'd start smoking again because that was their deal later on and then finally the NBA has said you're allowed to fuck they don't drug test you for weed anymore you're the guys can smoke as much weed as they want now do whatever you want do whatever you want we don't care it has nothing couldn't have anything less to do with what you're doing if your performance on the court suffers you'll get cut and we don't care we'll trade you if yeah it's not like that it's not like they were getting sued if somebody broke an ankle on the court that's what i mean it's it's ridiculous their job were getting sued if somebody broke an ankle on the court. That's what I mean.

It's ridiculous. This is their job. They know what they're doing. Most of them aren't high while they play. And if they are high while they play, it's because they know by now they play better that way. Right. So leave them the fuck alone. These guys are professionals.

This isn't high school. Don't you want to sell the best product you can sell? I would think. So February 14thth less than two weeks later he's traded by golden state okay they want to get rid of him because nobody in the bay area smokes weed god forbid we all know that here it's so sober around here jesus to the new jersey nets for a second round draft pick dude it's like they to punish him move him as fucking far as they possibly yes from fucking portland all the way down to phoenix from phoenix all the way the fuck to detroit from

detroit all the way the fuck to san francisco and now they're really punishing him sending him to new jersey that's a costly move my fuck man, man. That's 10 grand. They go 42-40 and get swept by the heat in the first round of the playoffs that year. This is Eldon Campbell, Vince Carter on this team. Forgot about that. What do we got here? Donnell Harvey, Richard Jefferson,

Jason Kidd, Ron Mercer, Alonzo Mourning on this team. Jesus, there's a lot of guys in and out of this team. This year, he only gets, what is this, total in the whole season, 7.5 points a game. Yikes.

Not doing too fucking well. He does make, let's see, $5,287,000 that year. There you go. We'll take that. That's a good payday. I would say. 2005-06, they're going to lose to the Heat in the playoffs again.

They go 49-33, pretty much the same squad. He averages 6.9 points per game this year. Yes, but he also is 14th and 6th man of the year voting. Okay. I don't know how deep they go to those. Top 50 choices, 14th. He's middle of the year voting okay i don't know how deep they go to those top 50 choices 14th he's middle of the road there's only there's only 32 teams so there can only be 13 of or 32 of them but i mean well 14 yeah i guess so yeah six men that's 32 teams six men middling of there may 13th 2006 the league suspends robinson for five games for Violating the league's anti-drug policy.

Oh. This was going into the second round of the playoff series against Miami that this happened. So it's the second suspension in a little more than a year. The suspension will begin with game three, and he'll miss the rest of the best of the seven series against the Heat. So he's suspended for the playoffs, which is completely fucked, basically. Yep. The Nets general manager said, or president said, the timing is obviously not very good.

Not good at all. They needed him. They said he was especially valuable because he plays very good defense against Shaq, they said. Oh. He knows how to get in Shaq's head and knows how to. He's an experienced guy. A guy like that has tricks and shit.

Your size, you can't just muscle him. He knows what to do. And he can jump. He's a blocker. He can contend your shot without having to put his body in jeopardy. Yeah. They said they started a different guy, but Robinson played the more of the total minutes against Shaq in the first two games.

And now they're pretty much fucked, though, because they don't really have a lot to go against. And they get killed by Miami. His teammates, though, here, they said that they're behind him. One of his teammates here said, we're behind Cliff 100%. Coach talked about family and how important family is. You're not with family just through the good times. The mood of this team is we just have to stay focused and get the job done. Yeah.

So the NBA required any player who was convicted of a marijuana charge to enroll in the marijuana treatment program. Oh. So that's what this is. They got a treatment program? Treat treatment program. Oh. So that's what this is. They got a treatment program? Treatment program. Fucking ridiculous. So stupid. Yeah.

Yeah, this is really ruining them. So they said, it obviously catches you off guard because Cliff is such a good person and a good teammate. Why would those things be mutually exclusive of each other? Smoking weed and being a decent person. I don't. Why would those things be mutually exclusive of each other? Smoking weed and being a decent person.

I don't know why that's. I never, I had no idea. He's a piece of shit. Wow. I thought he was a good guy, but apparently. I didn't know he was such a terrible drug addict.

He's adopting kids that aren't his and doing all these nice things, but apparently just a menace to society. He hasn't been arrested for anything other than DUI, and I mean, punching that woman. That was a long time ago. Yeah, that was a while ago, but it happened. Yeah. So 4.5 points per game that year.

Obviously not terrific. Makes $2.5 million. Next year, the Nets are 500, but still make the playoffs somehow. And they win a fucking series. They beat the Raptors in the first round and then lose to the Cavs in the second round. And that's the Bron James Cavs there. December 26, 2006, Robinson is named to UConn's all-century men's basketball team.

Really? Absolutely. His number 00 was retired for UConn's game. They did it in a game against Syracuse. And, yeah, they did great there. This year he averages 4.1 points a game, and that is the end of his career. 1380 games played, 14.2 points a game, 4.6 rebounds, 2.2 assists, and one hole steal and one hole block he averages.

He averaged 14 points a game over fucking 1,400 games? Over that many games. Unbelievable. I mean, he played, look at his power forward, power forward, small forward, power forward, center. Then he played small forward for six straight years, then power forward for six straight years, or four straight years, then center for two years, then power forward, then back to center again for his last year.

An average 14 points a game on all of that. The NBA never figured out what to do with Cliff Robinson. That's unbelievable. They never figured it out. Like I said, he would be a huge fucking star in today's game. He really would. They would know exactly what to do with him and use his skill set perfectly. Or they would know exactly where to put

him based on each lineup he would that guy would never leave the fucking floor no they'd love him he can play everywhere yeah he'd be great and he'd be so valuable because he can plug holes anywhere yeah um so he's with nine kids he certainly was yeah no shit made 1.6 million that year. He's waived by the Nets. And he says this. He said that Robinson would often ask people that he knew that smoked weed and later on in the cannabis community that he would hang out with in events and private settings. He would ask them a certain question. He said, what's the most expensive cannabis that you ever smoked?

And, you know, people would say I paid $700 for some really good half ounce of some shit, and it was from here, and it was all that. He said he would reply, quote, I once smoked a joint that cost over a million dollars. What? Meaning that that was the Nets contract wasn't extended due to him violating the cannabis policy. Yeah. And he said that he smoked part of one joint, and that's why he failed the test, which I don't buy. If you haven't smoked in months and you've smoked part of one joint, it'll be out of your system by tomorrow or the next day. You're good.

He smoked a joint that cost him $84 million because that's why the trailblazers got rid of him. He was smoking a joint joint he smoked half a joint right before the test probably maybe that's what happened there so uh he is one of seven players to record 1300 steals and 1300 block shots in their career is that right the others are listen to this list kevin garnett julius irving dr j Dr. J, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Ben Wallace, and Bobby Jones. Who the fuck is Bobby Jones? He's, I think, an ABA guy, an old-timey guy. Okay, from 100 years ago.

From the 60s. Wow. But otherwise, Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame. Pothead. Hall of Fame. Oh, God forbid. He smoked weed. All together. Cock puncher. Cock cop punching weed smoking some bitch 61 million 579 625 dollars he made 61 million dollars

61 holy shit which is still not as much as that one contract should have paid him. Right. The one that they said they agreed to. So, yep, there's an article about him here in 2008, an article about former players who still live in Oregon. Oh. Because he still lives in Portland. What a big deal. So he said he loved it, he likes the climate, and he loves it. He says, I played for eight years here.

The fans were great to me, and I established a lot of good friendships over here. it's a nice place for my children to grow up i love camping and doing the outdoor things here in oregon it's been kind of like the perfect fit camping what fucking sleeping bag have you found that stows your big ass two of them he puts them zips them together i love it here the cops The cops hate me, but I love it here. He pulls the one down on down to his torso over the head. Yeah, the cops hate me. The SWAT team is...

No, they were real nice to me. 2009, he declares bankruptcy. What? Bankruptcy. How? After 2009, he was invested in real estate. That was his big investment. Oh, no.

Done. Bank, no. Done. Bankruptcy. At the time of his bankruptcy, he listed assets of over $12 million and liabilities of just over $11 million. Fucked. Yeah. Yeah, so they said in the end, it turned out he had a negative net worth of about $5.3 million there. Ouch. So not there. Ouch. So not good at all.

And he's having many problems. So I don't even know if he's got abandoned properties. Jesus. He's sitting in a tent in Portland. He doesn't know what to do here. He's camping, man. Yeah. All of his shit's probably foreclosed.

What's he going to do? He's just sitting. Good thing he likes camping. That's a good place to do it. Real good. Lots of trees. Lots of trees. Lots of forest. So, I don't know.

He's just sitting in a hotel room maybe. You know, he's going to get away from seven kids. Until there's a knock on the door, Jimmy. Oh, boy. And he opens the door and, oh, my goodness, it's the Mexican pimp. There he is, guns blazing. Two pistols pointed right at him. And he doesn't even, he's not even a member of the Portland Police Department.

It's shocking. And he says... How is it you've come to arrive here? Why? It's honestly shocking. Why are you here, my friend? You drink the tequila. First of all, if you get busted for the weed, if you want the weed, you get it from me, first of all.

I not only sell women, I sell the finest cannabis you will find in the Southwest or the West Coast at all. By the way, if you're going to punch a cop, make sure to knock her out cold next time. That's another thing. And then drag her away and sell her to men for money, for sexual purposes. Really, that's what I would have done. So whatever you're doing is very bad. Oh, my. And I don't even know what to say to you anymore.

You have fucked it up, and now you have no money. Pathetic. I can't believe it. I leave now. Poof. And in a poof of tequila and handguns, he's gone. Wow. So he's bankrupt.

That's crazy. I can't believe it. That's fucked up, man. And then to make matters worse, if it's not bad enough, April 3rd 2009 robinson's home is broken into in portland i'd leave portland if i was in portland hates me i'm out it does it does it all hates you the three million dollar home of former trailblazer forward cliff robinson was hit by burglars who loaded up on several big screen tvs guitars and other valuable items. They took everything. Yep. Robinson's real estate agent called police to say someone had broken into his home in the western suburb of North Plains.

The home is for sale, and the Robinson family wasn't for—they were still living there, but they weren't home at the time. They disabled a security gate and broke through the front door. Wow. Holy shit, man. That's crazy. So then, what is this, about a week later, a week and a half later, three people are arrested in the burglary. Yeah. Sheriff's people said they arrested three people in connection with the burglary at his home.

They recovered more than $100,000 in stolen property. Scumbags. How dare you? A guy who plays in the league for 20 years has a $10,000 watch. He's got shit like that. He's got a couple $3,000 guitars. You think his wife doesn't have a diamond necklace that's big or some earrings that are honking or some shit like that? Yeah, if he likes guitars, he's got like Eric Clapton's guitar, 72 or something.

There's one with Jimi Hend hendrix fingertips on it yeah uh aaron gleghorn eric young and emily jane cammet were arrested emily emily jane why are you letting these guys drag you into this shit they told her if you come over and prove you're not his daughter he'll adopt you and so she was like okay and then turns out no that's not what they were there for. He's just going to give you a bunch of money. Yeah, he'll just give it to you. He doesn't care. It's totally cool.

You got to call yourself Emily Jane Robinson after that, but that's not a big deal. That's easy. They searched a residence the police did on Fifth Avenue in Vancouver and recovered five guitars, two off-road vehicles, and a motorcycle belonging to Robinson. Canadians did this? Yeah, apparently so. There's Vancouver, Washington, too. Yeah, there is. Yeah, so maybe it's there.

Yeah, Washington County. So it was, yep. Clark County, Washington County detectives then searched Clegghorn's residence at Northeast 8th Avenue, also in Vancouver, and recovered more stolen property, including custom-made bowling balls. Why would you take that? Stealing Cliffy's custom bowling balls? It's got his fucking name on it.

Not to mention, if you're escaping with shit, I have these big, giant, heavy weight things. I'm just going to run with those. Pick something lighter and more valuable, you fucking idiot. And something you can fucking move fast. You can't put that shit on eBay. Good Christ. Then a third location in Vancouver was searched after Gleghorn's arrest, and the additional off-road vehicle was recovered. They fucking took dirt bikes?

Yeah, they took everything. How do you take off on a dirt bike carrying bowling balls? Wow. Jesus Christ. I know. On a dirt bike carrying bowling balls? Wow. Jesus Christ. I know. On a dirt bike with bowling balls. Dragging behind you. Just married.

They're just. Thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk. Thunk, thunk, thunk, thunk. Just making bottles. Three cans and two bowling balls back there. That's what you got. Jesus Christ. Brat, brat.

One of the idiots was staying with his parents when this happened and the parents said they had no idea that there was stolen property being stored behind their house mom there's a dirt bike out there where do you think he got it jesus christ man uh and uh uh camit the emily jane was arrested in beaverton on charges of aggravated theft she also faces charges from an unrelated incident and was booked into the cliff county jail he's a bad bitch three from her residence three guitars an amp and an autographed 1994 nba all-star basketball were recovered from her residence the whole she took the ball with all the all because all the guys get him signed by everybody she just took that from him baby you you gotta move that you can't just keep that the dumbest part of this article says quote the three suspects all knew one another no shit did that oh what are you doing here what are you i was breaking in two you want to team up sure i'm

emily jane Nice to meet you. 30 Spider-Man point and a 20 Robin the Joint. What the fuck are you talking about? Of course they knew each other. You didn't have to tell us that. That's unnecessary. Oh, boy. Yeah, they said whoever broke in either brought a truck or made several trips because there's a lot of big shit.

Things still missing, including a custom-made go-kart, a set of custom-made golf clubs because he's 6'10 yeah um two large pioneer flat screen televisions they get sold for crack quickly yeah those are gone fast yeah uh they don't have a vin on them so those will go fast two bass guitars a white quad off-road vehicle and a tall white mountain bike all these are tall items we can assume um so they get sentenced here um by the way they said a 1200 gucci purse uh dozens of designer shoes were taken five bass guitars what how did they do they show for the fucking u-haul i guess they must have a big truck and. They took vehicles, for Christ's sake. They're not driving away in four-wheelers down this fucking nice road. Dragging golf clubs?

And bowling balls. They apparently boasted because they robbed a famous person, so they were boasting about it. Idiots. One of the burglars even gave a friend the basketball signed by the All-Stars. Wow. But one of the burglars tried to sell one of the ATVs, and that buyer tipped off the police because he thought it was stolen. Right, right. And so they ended up arresting more people, by the way.

They ended up arresting nine burglars altogether. Wow. Nine. And six of them received sentences ranging from three months probation to 36 months in prison. They said in the end it was over $200,000 worth of items stolen. It's a whole ring. It's fucking, it's insane, man. So they said, I guess the Robinsons sent a letter to the prosecutors saying, quote,

no matter how much of our belongings have been recovered, the fact is they were taken, used, and touched and kept in places we have no idea of. Well, they don't have diseases now. Your quad doesn't have syphilis. You'll be okay. It's got the clap. I'm going to put my ass on that. Yeah. The very fact that they would go into our twin baby boy's room.

Gee, how many kids does he fucking have? Oh, yeah. My God. Our twin baby boy's room and steal from them shows how low these people are. They violated us on the most extreme level. That's all fair. Altogether, Emily Jane Camet, Eric Wayne Young, Donald Beckin, Tabitha Hollisbow, Jesse Rain Shields, and Monica Ann Sutter were all sentenced. There's a lot of women in there.

Yeah, that's weird. Sentenced earlier in the month were Doria Nicole Watson, Donald Sean Beale, and Aaron J. Gleghorn. They all got 36 months in prison. Three years. Doria and Donald got three years and two months probation. Aaron Gleghorn got 36 months in prison. That's a lot.

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's quite a bit of there. So they all appeared in court and they're all going to jail. Robinson said a once beautiful place to live and raise a family is now marked as a home robbed by criminals and unsafe to live. We can only hope no other families or individuals will have to suffer at the hands of these low lives. They said... Come on, man.

They said they're still missing jewelry and stereo equipment and the insurance only covered one-third of the amount it cost to repair the damage. Right. Now his house, April 27, 2011, his house will be auctioned. Oh. It will be fucking auctioned. Yep.

He couldn't sell it? Nope. He declared bankruptcy, and his 5,900-square-foot Hillsboro home, which sits on 16 acres, will be auctioned to pay his creditors. Yep. Do we know how much it went for? Well, at the time of the bankruptcy filing, Robinson listed assets of over $12 million, liabilities of just over $11 million. The bankruptcy

remains unresolved, and a filing made earlier this month listed liabilities of about $12.4 million, assets of $7.1 million. The reserve price on the home is $1.35 million. Wow. So, 2013-2014,

fuck it, he goes on Survivor. The reality show. I had no idea. What? No fucking clue he went on there. Why would he do this? I have no clue. The theme for the season was brains versus brawn versus beauty.

And Robinson was placed on the brawn team, of course, obviously the beauty team. He did not initially plan to reveal his identity he didn't tell anybody who he was he's 6'10 they know you're somebody until he shows up i mean we know what you look like cliff he was recognized by young huang who had admitted being a fan of robinson once his identity was revealed then he was like fuck it i'm cliff robinson he just started telling people so um after tribe swap which sounds horny all the women were pregnant with cliff it was so weird and he had he was paying for kids of warney that were just theirs and it was strange now he needs to win the prize money just to take care of all the kids all these kids trish hegarty revealed her strong distaste for Robinson and convinced fellow tribe mate Tony Vlachos to vote with her to eliminate him.

He was the fifth contestant to be voted out, finishing in 14th place. Oh, my God. Not good. That's, you gotta, they teamed up on him. Just like a six-man voting, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Six-man voting and survivor. Trish better be a black woman.

Otherwise, that looks real fucking racist. That looks bad. It looks mean. You feel bad for the guy. For strong dislike. He's always getting picked on. You're picking on Uncle Cliffy. Can't do that.

I feel bad for Cliffy, but not nearly as bad as I feel for Clifford L. Robinson, who was convicted in 2007 of a slaying of a bachelor party robbery murder. My God. Yes, he will be sentenced to, I believe they said he was the guy was coldly executed with a 45 caliber pistol. Jesus, Cliff. Robinson extended his condolences to the family, but added, I can't stand here and accept responsibility or apologize for his murder or the events leading up to it. Why? Because he said he didn't pull the trigger. Somebody else pulled the trigger.

It was apparently a gang thing there. So that's an issue. Also, Clifford Robinson, M.D., radiation oncologist. Hell, yeah. Yeah. He's a medical medicine associate director of clinical programs director, whatever the fuck that is. He's an enthusiast. University of Washington School of Medicine.

And then also 2016, a West Virginia fugitive who was arrested in Louisiana named Clifford Randall Robinson of Princeton. I mean, Jesus Christ. Arrested in connection with numerous alleged sex crimes involving juveniles. Turns out it was just a paintball gun. Yeah. Turns out people are actually 2060s chicks and they're not related to him at all. Under indictment for incest and sexual abuse by a guardian. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Yep, that's a real piece of shit here. What a monster. And then finally, the most mistaken identity, Clifford Trent Robinson, who was an NBA player, 6'9", 220. What? Our guy Cliff is 6'10", 225, who played. He was drafted in 1979 in the first round of the NBA draft and played all the way to 1994. Overlapped five years with this Cliff Robinson.

Wow. Did they think it was him when he was up for draft? Did I get drafted again? What the fuck? I thought I was already drafted. So this guy, though, when it's pretty crazy, though, that he when he get arrested, people would call him and he'd be like, not me. Not me. Not the other guy. Yep. So, yeah, he was drafted there. He's once had a 45 point game against Detroit. And that was he was only he was a teenager at that point.

He was the youngest player in the NBA two years running, that Cliff Robinson. Wow. Yep. He even had a good rookie season as a teenager, 13.6 points, 7.2 rebounds a game. And 45 points against Detroit are the most ever scored in an NBA game by a teenager. Today still? I think so, yeah. Wow. And then he was traded for Otis Birdsong, who was a very good fucking player, an excellent player.

Unless LeBron scored 45 at some point. He may have. He might have because he came in, he had a lot of time left as a teenager. Kobe was terrible his first couple of years. He sucked. Both, though? Kobe was bad his first couple of years. He was fucking firing up air balls all over the place and shit. He was just a mess.

He could dunk, but he was a kid. He wasn't any good. So 2014, he takes a trip to North Korea. Why? On a team assembled by Dennis Rodman as part of the basketball diplomacy effort here. Yeah. There. It was an exhibition match against the north korean senior national

basketball team to celebrate the birthday of kim jong-un that's right who else want with them kenny anderson vin baker craig hodges doug christie sleepy floyd charles d smith and four street ballers probably some and one guys or something i hope he smoked weed in north korea they got good weed in North Korea. I'll tell you that. He went over there with the intention of just meeting and connecting with the people. He didn't want to do any of the political side of the shit. He said he just wanted to see what was going on over there.

He said he most of the team was unaware that it was the leader's birthday and the game was a celebration of that. Right. They were just going to play basketball. celebration of that right they were just going to play basketball uh he said if we had more facts of this and that uh of this that and the other to make better decisions things might have been different we may uh we might not have gone right he said that uh they did he thought he connected with the common people but that got overshadowed by all the political crap that he wanted no part of he said that he met kim jong-un very kim kim jong-un very briefly and shook his hand, but most of the time was spent with the people helping show them around theunken interview with Dennis Rodman on CNN, Robinson said they all spoke beforehand and we're going to avoid discussing the

political and just keep it about basketball. But then Robin got worked up and went off the whole script. And Robinson said it made him uncomfortable. He wanted a part of the shit. October 24th, 2014. He is arrested. Cliff is what multiple charges stemming from stemming from a suspected drunken driving stop.

He was stopped by police after the Buffalo Bills home game against the Minnesota Vikings after he failed to use a designated merging lane and was found to be intoxicated. Yeah. He refused a breathalyzer test. Of course. And was charged with DWI and DWI with a child passenger in the car, endangering the welfare of a child, second-degree aggravated, unlicensed operation.

Didn't have a license either. Doesn't even have a license. And a couple of traffic violations for the original reason. Cliff. He's subject to at least one felony charge per the terms of Leandra's law, a New York state law that makes it an automatic felony for the first offense of drunken driving with a child 15 years or younger inside the vehicle. Under 15, Cliff? Under 15. Yeah.

As a kid, one of his kids. What are you doing, man? January 21st, 2016, he's starting a weed business, he decided. Uncle Spliffy. May as well. That's what he's starting a weed business, he decided. Uncle Spliffy. May as well. That's what he's doing. Yep. He wants to enter the next phase of his career, and he says he's now a marijuana advocate

and will be a speaker at the Cannabis Collaborative Conference in February in Portland. He plans to use his operation in Portland, a grow operation, and he's calling himself Uncle Spliffy now, and he says, I think I've always been an advocate for cannabis. It's calming. Calms my stomach, calms my nerves a little bit. So from that point, I see a lot of positives. That's it.

So he does that. I think I'm an advocate. We all know you're an advocate. Yeah, I think I've been an advocate. You've been an advocate since day one, bud. We know here. So, yeah, he's the president of Uncle Spiffy, this business. And, yeah, people thought it was cool.

They liked Cliff Robinson, and now he can actually smoke his weed and make his weed. You can buy his weed. He says, yeah, I have a guy who's very good at growing. We're going to have extracts and topicals. And he says that, you know, he hopes to start a cannabis club, too, with tiered membership and a plan that he doesn't want to talk about right now. Oh, boy. He said, we started something from the ground floor. I played basketball for 18 years, but they were playing basketball before I played played and they were selling cannabis before, but they weren't selling it legally. So now we're in a position

where we can do something groundbreaking and we can have to take responsibility for that seriously. Yeah. He said, you find a way. There's been plenty of bathrooms with showers running and towels on the door with steam. I played on one team and i couldn't even be on the same floor with everybody the whole floor was just smoked out i told the trainer to put me on a different floor i'm a little bit more cautious because uh cautious about how i smoke i'm not out in the open like everybody else that's what he said because he's just not used to being able to be out in the open but he said there's a team of probably the blazers, I would imagine, where the whole fucking floor was filled with weed. Or Detroit, yeah. So he said he preferred marijuana to prescription drugs and pharmaceuticals for his pain when he was a player.

He said, if you're a player, if your knee's a little sore, they'll give you a bunch of pills. And he was like, I don't want the pills. I just want weed. So he said he liked it. And he said, quote, when you look at a commercial on TV about a prescription drug, they always give you 20 side effects that come with it. And he said, he said, quote, when you look at a commercial on TV about a prescription drug, they always give you 20 side effects that come with it. Really, we live in an age where you should be concerned about

that kind of stuff. Why not have an alternative? There you go. He says he never felt like weed was a burdensome thing for his career, never a threat. He said, you know, other than getting suspended, that's what fucked my career up, but the weed didn't make me play worse what time he was playing bad he was in his late 30s for christ's sake yeah it's ridiculous um so he said he smokes less now than he used to

he said he's a more savvy consumer he prefers sativa to indica sativa is the upper indica is the downer because it allows him to be more functional and he said he didn't know the difference back when he played he said he started educating himself about marijuana after he was done playing and now he knows a whole lot about it and uh yeah so he also uh it's they said the conference despite it being centered around cannabis was a run-of-the-mill business expo not anything zany that might be expected when the product being marketed is weed. There was a few jumbo jars filled with marijuana, T-shirts or signs printed with bad puns, the open distaste for New Jersey Governor Chris Christie, and free Ben & Jerry's because he hates weed.

But the overall attitude was decidedly one of boring professionalism. I've been to one of those cannabis events. It's a bunch of people telling you their business stuff and they're not even stoned because they're trying to sell you shit it's boring very fucking boring um yeah did nothing it's mainly for if you're in the business it's great but otherwise no um so they're talking about how all these players used to get busted and people would get all pissy about it and rashid wallace got in trouble and it's fucking silly they were talking about back in the day everybody got in trouble in portland and now here we all here we are embracing these guys yeah march 8th 2017 cliffy is hospitalized with a stroke oh no oh yeah. Oh, yeah. 50 years old.

And he is in the hospital not doing well. He suffers a hemorrhage a few days later. Not good here. They said a minor brain hemorrhage, saying he'll be in rehabilitation for a while. He was being treated in the hospital. He said, I want the Trailblazers fans and friends to know I'm doing well and in the process of getting better. My family and I appreciate the players and well wishes. I had an unfortunate incident with a minor brain hemorrhage, which means I'll be in rehabilitation for a while. But I'm excited about trying to get past this bump.

I'm improving every day. So he's trying. By April 30th, he's doing okay. He says, the outpouring of love and encouragement from so many people has helped me stay positive um yeah he said he was paralyzed across the left side of his body oh my god yeah he said i see how people can get down on the process to go from walking and talking and doing what you want to do in the blink of an eye not being able to do that is so upsetting i can see how people get discouraged.

The support I've received from everyone has helped me be able to deal with this a whole lot better. An athlete is – you tell an athlete this is what you do to fix something, they'll do it because they're just used to that. So you go to rehab. You do this exercise this many times. They just know that shit. So they're good patients a lot of times when it comes to stuff like that. So they're good patients a lot of times when it comes to stuff like that. So he said he met this reporter, met with him for coffee.

And he said, Cliff said, I'm feeling good. I thought it would be a slower process for me to get to this point. But I'm doing well. I'm getting back to my daily routine. He says, I've gotten up a couple times in the night to go to the bathroom that night. I've gotten up a couple times and everything was fine. Once I got up to start the day, I went to step out of bathroom that night. I'd gotten up a couple times and everything was fine. Once I got up to start the day, I went to step out of bed and fell.

I tried to get back up and I couldn't move the left side of my body. Jesus. So he called his housemate, LaVon Scott, to help him. He said he was able to help me get to my feet and I thought I'd be okay, but I had no movement on my left side. He said he never lost consciousness and always had all of his mental faculties, but his body didn't work.

So he said it was such a scary moment. I was dead weight. We couldn't even get me to the car. So an ambulance had to come get him. Showed what happened. They said they believe the cause was high blood pressure. And he said that he'd had high blood pressure for years and never treated it. He said, I knew I needed to keep an eye on it, but I ignored it. I took for that he'd had high blood pressure for years and never treated it. He said,

I knew I needed to keep an eye on it, but I ignored it. I took for granted. I'd be okay. They feel invincible. These guys, you know, sure.

Fucking. He said that my symptoms were on the mild side. It could have been much worse. I could have, it could have led to total paralysis. I could have been permanently paralyzed. I could have lost my life. Yeah.

He was in the hospital for a month. He said, the first thing to come back was my arm. And then it's been a slow process down to the leg. He wears a brace on his leg to support it at this point. He said, I still can't lift my toes to keep them from dragging on the ground. I have about 60% back in my arm. I still have to get the strength back. I pretty much have the mobility back now. I'm still working on things like coordination with the hand. He said he's on medication. He's going to rehab twice a week. And he said that, you know, just trying to get the use of his leg back, basically.

He's in bad shape. By the way, he said, I'm going to make some changes in my diet and toward leading to a more healthy lifestyle. I'm going to try to look more toward the future and not just tomorrow. Three of Robinson's six children, sons Jalen and Isaiah and daughter Jessica, who's not his daughter, live in Portland. Daughters Savannah's in Bend. His twins, Lyle and who?

Clifford III. Aye, aye, motherfucking aye, live in Arizona. Really? Yep. Jessica has a six-year-old son now, Jace, who's close to his grandfather, quote unquote. He's a ball of energy, Robinson says. I want to be around to enjoy being his grandpa. And he also plans to, you know, he said his plans to begin an Uncle Spliffy marijuana operation in Portland have taken a turn.

He partnered with Pistol Point Cannabis, helping with licensing and marketing the product. He said, I'm excited to get back to work as we work on some long-term goals we set for the company. He said people have been supportive on social media, and he's thankful for them. People come up to him at the grocery store and all that kind of shit. He said, they said it's possible I won't get 100% of my movement back, but after playing 18 years in the NBA, I know what my body's capable of doing. I know the healing it's capable of. It's a matter of me staying encouraged and going through the process. Odds are in my favor. I'm optimistic. I'm anxious

to get back to bowling. I still have a lot of golf to play. I still have a lot of life to live. All right. So he says, get checked. Take care of things. You can't take that stuff for granted, especially when you're getting up in age. It's a thing called quality of life. We all have to keep an eye on that.

So the 17th of 2017, May 16th, he endorses an Oregon Senate bill about cannabis consumption. Okay. Talking about all this type of shit. He said, I am Cliff Robinson. He testified before a committee. Yeah. I am a retired professional basketball player, having played a large part of my career with the great Portland Trailblazers

organization. During my 18 years in the NBA, I used cannabis medically, preferring a natural plant over narcotic painkillers. I've experienced its medical benefits and personally and have witnessed the plant improve the lives of many athletes. Today I am dedicating my life to the fight to allow professional athletes, the ability to use cannabis, a much safer medicine than the prescription narcotics pushed upon Americans

today. So he goes on to talk about Oxycontin and alcohol and he's seen people do all sorts of – players do all sorts of shit to cope with the pain. And, yeah, he said it's fucked up. So, yeah, whatever that bill is. June 21, 2017, he says that he wants to aim to knock the myth down that athletes and cannabis don't mix. He's like, it's a very good mix, actually. We do great together. Super, super fucking't mix. He's like, it's a very good mix, actually. We do great together. Super, super fucking good mix.

And, yeah, so that's what he's trying to do with the Uncle Spliffy brand. He said, I played 18 years in the NBA and used cannabis on and off along the way and didn't have a problem. So what the fuck, basically. They said that it's very popular in the NBA, too. Yeah, yeah. It really should be fine. March 7, 2018, he has a tumor removed. He had

cancer? He had a tumor. I don't know if it's cancer, but they said that he had a tumor removed from his jaw. He said that he had surgery. He said, it's been a tough year for me. Between a stroke and getting a tumor removed from my jaw, I continue to stay positive. So if you can do it, so if I can do it, so can you.

He left I out. If I can do it, yeah. Yeah. Please keep me in your prayers. And that's his tweets. And then a short time later, he tweeted out, no cancer. Great. So that's good.

It's just a tumor. 2019, he appears in the Netflix film, Grass is Greener, which examines the history of cannabis prohibition in the United States documentary. 2009, he goes, 2019, I'm sorry, he undergoes surgery for cancer treatment again. So I don't know where that was. Then August 29th, 2020, Cliff is dead. What? At 53, Cliff is dead. What? At 53, Cliff Robinson died in his home in Portland of lymphoma.

He had cancer. He ended up having cancer. Yeah, the year-long battle with cancer. And he told nobody. I guess, no. I guess the following year, he had the thing from the jaw. And yeah, that's it. He said no cancer. I guess it was there.

Yeah. Patrick Ewing said, I had the pleasure of battling with Cliff for 13 years. He was a warrior on the court and an even better man off of it. Rex Chapman said, Devastated with the passing of one of the best teammates ever,

Clifford Robinson. Guy absolutely loved to hoop, never missed a practice, guarded the toughest guy every night, and was a walking bucket. A great dad laughed every day. That's great. Danielle Marshall said, I'm so glad it's raining today. I'm going to need it to hide my tears. Not my big bro, man.

Uncle Cliffy taught me all I needed to know to be a stretch forward the nba yukon family has lost another great one r.i.p uncle cliffy another guy that wore a headband another headband guy probably after him so can't get enough of cliff robinson wow man i don't know his rookie card uh is uh the hoops version here i think it's overpriced here at a hundred dollars on uh ebay that sounds like too much people look on the black market you might get one of his uh old four hoops version here. I think it's overpriced here at $100 on eBay. That sounds like too much. Maybe keep a look on the black market. You might get one of his old four-wheelers.

I was going to say, you could get a bass guitar maybe. Get a dirt bike. Good bowling ball. Also, a vintage 1990s champion Portland Trailblazers Cliff Robinson white NBA jersey here. $150 are best offer. It's an old school vintage one. Is is not is it signed no not signed at all i'm just an old school it's a little pricey and then of course you can always go to uncle spliffy.com yeah to keep up with his products and that everybody supporters cliff robinson fucking fam he's got a lot of them jesus he's got a lot he's got kids

that aren't his he's got a third he's got all sorts of shit so my god oh kind of just a crazy story a cliff not a bad guy not a bad guy he's not a we play idiot or asshole he's kind of neither he's just a guy just uh caught up in wrong place wrong time um if he keeps smoking and yeah if he didn't punch that that cop i don't drive drunk with kids in the car. But I just like the guy. He's a tough guy. He played well on the court. He wasn't an asshole. He didn't look like he was out to hurt people for the most part, unless you were a cop breaking up a brawl.

Or a kid in the passenger seat. Or a kid in the passenger seat. But other than that, I mean, I don't know. So he's a tough one. God damn it. If he wasn't just those two shitty incidents. That's it. He'd be a great guy.

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Dick Sweat. Yeah. Richard Sweat. Emily Moreau. Jerry Kay. Elena Gleason. Lindsey Buntrock. Shanti Terese.

Terese. Mona Martinez. Whitney Aaron. Jermaine Left. He didn't come back. Meg would know last name. Erica would know last name. Brooke Fuller.

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