Crime in Sports - #400 - Praise The Lord & Spread 'Em - Jarryd Hayne

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

This week, we head down under to talk about one the country's best rugby players. He also ended up in the NFL, and is praised for his athletic accomplishments. The problem is, he is also very... accomplished in the field of "being accused of rape", which is much less sought after. He's paid settlements, and is currently sitting in an Australian prison!Have the ability to be great at a young age, win just about every accolade possible, in your sport, by the time you're 21, and be convicted of being an awful person, while telling everyone how religious you are with Jarryd Hayne!! Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:33 I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you so much for joining us today. We have a very fun episode because we're going around the world and we're going to go to Australia to cover a rugby player who has a problem keeping his dick in his pants. We'll talk about him. Not only is he a rugby player, he actually played a year in the NFL as well. Oh, no. Yeah, this guy. It's a story that you want to root for the guy, and then you go, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I don't want to root for him anymore. Monster. We will get into this. Wait. I know who he is. I think you do. He was a 49er was a 49er there's not a lot of rugby crossovers in the nfl is the thing so i know it's a lot of american people are gonna go oh that guy yeah i remember that guy uh we will get into that very quickly first of all shut up and give me
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Starting point is 00:04:06 With our asshole of the week. And this guy's an asshole, I'm going to say. Great. Straight off here. Jared, and that is J-A-R-R-Y-D. Yeah. The less common spelling. Jared Lee Hain.
Starting point is 00:04:21 H-A-Y-N-E. Huh. hayne h-a-y-n-e so his actions and you know things really really uh lend themselves more to being a redneck which is good because his middle name is lee so that's perfect a lot of us we find out from small town murder a lot of redneck activity gets taken on by guys named like you know bobby lee shit like that and you know bobby lee shorter short short for Jared is Jerry. And then you got Jerry Lee. And that's a nightmare. You got all that going on. That's a problem.
Starting point is 00:04:51 That's an issue. So Jared was born February 15th, 1988. Young man. Seems very young, right? I would say he grows up in Sydney, I guess, as we'll talk about here. His father was also a rugby player, as he is a rugby player. This is a rugby episode. So as always, when we cover countries that we're not that familiar with,
Starting point is 00:05:14 and of course, sports we have no fucking idea about, we ask that you find our ignorance charming. And we prefer in a sport that's confusing as a motherfucker. Oh, yeah, yeah. Jesus. We've covered like, I don't know, three, four rugby people. And every time I have to include the full rugby rules and what the hell is going on because we still don't understand it. And people have sent us, here's a video.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Just watch this. It's easy. No, it's not. We don't get it. Easier than cricket. I'll give you that. That is true. Cricket, I have no idea. i don't even know why they're wearing what they're wearing in cricket never mind the rest of the whole game of what's going on seems as though the object is
Starting point is 00:05:53 to hit grounders and i don't like that either that which makes no sense it looks like you could hit it harder and farther but you're choosing not to it seems as though the idea of baseball is to hit that motherfucker as fast and far as possible give it a good crack this give it a good yeah this is like very specific there's angles involved which i mean seems fine and all but the pitches go in the dirt and you can still hit it yeah it's it's strange it's it's weird all i do know is i've seen cricket matches where there's like it seems like there's like 60 year old indian men playing which doesn't doesn't seem like that demanding of a sport if If there's 60 year old men playing and rugby, though, looks very demanding. This is a this is a sport for crazy people.
Starting point is 00:06:32 This one's tough. This is one for this is for people who are like, I fought all the kangaroos in my area. Now what? That's I feel like that's what this is. They all lost. Yeah, I've beaten the kangaroos. I beat the kangaroo champ. Now what do I do? Oh, I'll go do this, I guess.
Starting point is 00:06:47 King Roo, I've beat him. King Roo. And also, I will say, they are the craziest people in the world, I feel like, these rugby guys. At the same time, very few of them could actually play in the NFL, because we've had debates on social media about that.
Starting point is 00:07:04 No. Just look at the size of the people like well they play with no pads yes i get that but if if you take um um miles there the fucking gigantic take him and put him in rugby how many people are oh garrett shit how many people are critically injured at the end of a rugby match with that man? Miles Garrett. Yes. You guys, here's the thing. He put on a shirt that didn't have sleeves, and they drug tested him. That's how big he is.
Starting point is 00:07:34 That's how big he is. Not his moves, nothing he did. Oh, God, those are too big. That's unnatural. He's got to be on something. Holy shit. This guy, there was somebody a couple years ago who sent me like a big long thing and debating you know the rugby guys could definitely play in the nfl all i sent
Starting point is 00:07:50 him was a picture of miles garrett and i said this guy plays in the nfl dude i said if this guy played in rugby he'd murder everybody there and he's not even he's like not even the best guy we got he's just huge so there are others there are others who are a lot more yeah just look at this man would you want to play padless fucking rugby with this guy don't think so no so that's that's all i was saying just we have larger the people here yeah enormous whereas he's not that big of a guy crazy yeah it's they are crazy and he that's why he goes in the nfl and he's kind of a small guy in the NFL. Ballsy as fuck, though. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:08:25 Was he punt returning? All balls. Yeah, he was returning kicks and kind of running backing at times. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Running backing? That's what he was doing? Running backing. Running backing.
Starting point is 00:08:34 That's it. Back running. So his father was Manoa Thompson. That's his father's name. And his mother's name is Jody Hayne. And he's got a couple of siblings. He's from Sydney. And his father is Fijian.
Starting point is 00:08:48 So that's how that goes. Father is Fijian. Mother is Australian. In Australia, do they take mom's last name? I think maybe if dad fucking takes off because he was raised by his mother as a single mother. Got it. I think if dad takes off and you're pissed off at him, you don't call yourself by his name. I think that's how it goes.
Starting point is 00:09:09 So his father played professional rugby in South Sydney, western suburbs, and the Auckland Warriors, and also while representing Fiji. So he comes from rugby stock. He's one of three children, grew in you know in minto is the area in kind of a shitty place with a single mom with three kids and you know uh these were housing commission flats which i assume are like uh council housing in england and uh section eight or the projects or whatever the fuck in the u.S. And so I figure, like, those are all kind of equal in the different countries.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Sure. So his mom, I guess that it was not a safe neighborhood at all. No? So much so that his mom would sleep against the door of the front door of the house to ensure nobody would come in and invade the home. Or at least she'd be aware of it happening. That's a good night's sleep. Wow, that's really nice. Every time somebody walks outside, jump out
Starting point is 00:10:12 of bed. That's a terrible way to sleep. Don't invade my home. I guess his father was gone while he was growing up, but then later on popped in. That's what we do. They were friends after that. Yeah, he popped in later on. You're pretty good at rugby, mate friends after that yeah he popped in later on you're pretty good at rugby hard shit yeah all that hard shit's over with all that pain in the ass stuff
Starting point is 00:10:31 now it's just rugby and beer drinking let's let's hang out so he hayne jared began playing junior rugby league for campbell town city uh east campbell town and Cabramatta at the age of six. So he starts playing in leagues at six, and he right away was a pretty good player here. I mean, there's kind of no doubt what his path is going to be. He wins multiple titles. He still holds the under-eight and under-nine-year-old Public school sports association records in the 100 meter, whatever the fuck. Yeah. So he, yeah, he holds all sorts of athletic records.
Starting point is 00:11:13 So that's kind of, that's awesome. You knew what he was going to be like right away here. He went to the John Warby public school, which sounds so Australian. Sure. It's the most Australia. There's no school in Lincoln, Nebraska named the John Warby public school, right? It's so Australia. Warby.
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah. Only Australia has people named Warby. I feel like, I don't know. I think that was the daughter of the, the ex wife in a brother. Where art thou? Maybe. I think that, I think that was the Warby. Yeah, it was Warby. Is it slang for a koala? Maybe. I think that was the Warby game. Yeah, it was Warby.
Starting point is 00:11:45 Is it slang for a koala maybe? I'm not sure. I feel like it's something. Slang for a roo? I don't know. So, yeah, Aldo, he went to Westfield Sports High School, but dropped out of high school early to pursue a career in rugby. So don't need the high school.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Yeah. Very good in in school he signs with the paramata paramata eels and becomes one of the best guys around immediately when he's like 18 years old it's so wild how in in britain and in australia you have a sport that you can drop out of school yeah and still be successful in it and nobody will like make fun of you yeah no we don't have anything like that here no because it's like it's the same thing as a lot of countries have kids at like 12 they kind of choose an area of trade or whatever or profession to go into rather than the general education that's a lot of countries do that so they're
Starting point is 00:12:42 like that's your trade at 12 we see you're better than the other 12 year old so you're gonna yeah i guess that's it's a weird thing we don't do that you can't drop out of high school and just be like well i'm gonna be in the nba people will make fun of you you know what at least they're fucking honest you're right they will make fun at least they're honest there though we pretend like hey don't don't act like sports are the most important thing yeah kid who's six foot ten with a 42 inch vertical leap you need to get good grades and maybe you can go to school for accounting why don't you be an engineer he's not interested in that why would i do that yeah why i can dunk without jumping yeah that's fine even if i'm smart enough to be
Starting point is 00:13:19 an engineer this is so much easier and more fun and lucrative. Why the fuck would I do that? I'll never make $120 million for four years engineering. There's a bunch of tiny, ugly guys that can do that and do great at it. But these people, it's a different story. I want to leap through the air from the foul line and dunk. Different, completely different. There are a bunch of ugly dorks that will do that. Don't worry. Everything will get engineered.
Starting point is 00:13:46 My father was an NBA player. My mother was a Dutch model. So I'm going to do this. Whereas you. Yeah. Whatever the fuck. You know what I mean? You figure out the mathematics.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Yeah. Build me a better hoop to dunk on. Yeah. But it's just funny that we pretend like, hey, he got a fucking D on his test. I don't know if he's going to play this week. Oh, really? He will when you get your DraftKings lineup. He didn't understand pride and prejudice enough, so we're going to.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Who fucking cares? You better hope he plays if you want your fucking parlay to pan out. Yeah, you better goddamn hope so. Your fucking fan duel bullshit. Your kid's dental insurance depends on it yeah the fucking mortgage payment is riding on it if you don't want a fucking divorce get in there so uh he's 18 years old when he makes his debut with the nrl here this is the national rugby league it's the big the big one here paramount eels against the
Starting point is 00:14:45 per uh penrith panthers here and um he i guess the guy who was coaching him the coach of the team jason taylor said quote everyone knew his talent it wasn't just me so he was great he made a good impression here he scored 17 tries within 16 games in his debut season. Wow. Most sports, they're about results. You know what I mean? Goals, baskets, runs. They're like, listen, it's a good try.
Starting point is 00:15:16 It's a really good try. He had a lot of – hey, he was trying, everybody. You shut the fuck up. A lot of effort on that try. 16 tries. Now, let's see you try that hard, mister. But they get points for a try, right? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:28 A try means something different. A try is like actually. It's just funny that in English it's pretty ridiculous. Trying is doing it? That's what I mean. In English, trying means you're trying. It doesn't guarantee results. You failed.
Starting point is 00:15:41 Well, it could mean you're going to succeed. You're trying. But it doesn't guarantee results trying. It just guarantees effort. So, yeah, he did that. He had a personal best of four tries in their 46-12 victory over the Newcastle Knights. Wow. And he was awarded the 2006 Dally M Rookie of the Year Award, had a spot on the Kangaroos Squad.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Oh, he's a roo. Oh, my God. The pageantry of the Roos Squad is renowned, as we all know. The Kangaroos Squad. Australia, I get that it's a lot of stereotypes and it's a lot of the same three jokes, but you really make it fucking easy. That's the problem. You're not into it. You're not helping any.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Everything's named after fucking kangaroos and shit like that. What do you want from us? This is all we can do. We have this and Paul Hogan. We have nothing else from you. You guys got kangaroos, koalas, and wallabies, and that's all we know of you.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Produce some more for us so we can get a better view. And the best part is i love that the australians are the ones laughing the hardest at this because they love getting their balls broken they've got things it just doesn't travel to here because we don't give a fuck about your tim tams we don't care about the tim tams we do the people who give a fuck about your vegemite the people who sent me the box of Australian snacks, that was wonderful. I do enjoy a lot of your snacks. I do.
Starting point is 00:17:08 Yeah, do you? Yeah, they were fucking good. There was a lot of good shit in there. That was Justine, I think. Yeah, that was some good stuff in there. By the way, this episode was sent to us by a listener. Oh, that's great. This episode, we did not know.
Starting point is 00:17:18 The listener's name is, I have it here, Kit McNamara was the name they used. So I don't know if that's the real name. That might not be their name. Don't really care. They the name they used. So I don't know if that's the real name. That might not be their name. Don't really care. They know who they are. They might be running from something because they're Australian. They're running from all kinds of shit. From one end of the island to another.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Not a lot of room to run there. A lot of criminals down there. Yeah. So Jared was also named 2006 Eels Season Rookie of the Year. So he's a great rookie. Now, let's find out about the tries a little bit here. Scoring is this. Points can be scored by one of four ways.
Starting point is 00:17:54 It's a lot of ways. Yeah, run it in. A try is awarded when a player places the ball down in their opponent's dead ball area behind the goal. That's a touchdown. You just put the goal. That's a touchdown. You just put it down. That's a five-pointer you get for that. Oh, yeah. That's a try.
Starting point is 00:18:10 That's big. That's a try. So all of his tries equal that, okay? So those are all points. That's good. Yeah. A conversion is a free kick that the team is awarded after a try to earn two bonus points.
Starting point is 00:18:25 So then you get seven. That's the extra point, I guess, is what that is. It's the extra double. The two-point conversion in this case. A successful kick needs to pass between the upper posts and the top bar of the goal, like a field goal, except it's thin, I think. No, that's Australian rules. It has the real thin field goal. I think it's narrower, too, anyway.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Probably, I'm sure. A penalty kick will gain a team three points and is awarded to a team when the opposing team causes an infringement. You fucking cheating bastards. You infringing cocksuckers. You cheating, they'll get three points.
Starting point is 00:18:57 You cheating bastard. A drop goal can be kicked out of the hand as long as the ball bounces first and can earn a team three points okay hit the ground then you kick it off the ground into the ball but no i think can be kicked out of the hand so you can like punt it right but it has to hit the ground for as long as the ball bounces first so do you have to bounce it and then kick it or do you is it only it doesn't only count if the ball bounces before somebody else like catches it or do you have to bounce it and then kick it? Or does it only count if the ball bounces before somebody else catches it?
Starting point is 00:19:27 Or do you bounce it, hold it, and then kick it? That's what I mean. This is very confusing. These rules are not. Or do you throw it into the ground and then kick it out when it bounces? Okay, so we know what a try is. I'm pretty sure of that. The try we got.
Starting point is 00:19:39 We got that. Nailed that one. This drop goal, I feel like I need to see it a few times before I really understand what's happening i still won't get it i still yeah did he have to do that why did he do that maybe he's just being fancy so very weird uh the dead ball area by the way the field must be roughly 100 meters long so about a football field and 70 meters wide with a minimum of a 10 meter dead ball area so that's the area behind the goal yeah same as the same as a 10-meter dead ball area. So that's the area behind the goal. Yeah, same as a football field. So there we go.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Yeah, it's a similar, very similar. And if you look at the field, it's similar to a football field. I think it might be a drop wider possibly, 70 yards. It might be narrower. I don't think a football field is wider than 70 yards because it's a – No, fuck no, it's not 70 yards wide. This is 70 meters wide, 100 meters long. This is more like a Canadian football field. which is a lot wider than the Canadian. I think ours are like 40 yards wide.
Starting point is 00:20:30 Something like that, 50 maybe. They're not 70, though. 70 meters. That's a long way. Canadian fields are like that, the Canadian football leagues. Jesus, that's almost a soccer field, man. Humongous, yeah. Canada, they run a lot of weird sideways plays and shit like that
Starting point is 00:20:46 because they have the wide field so they wow the lack of talent makes them have to be a little more creative with what well i mean let's be honest here get a little more space yeah anybody with a 4 3 40 is probably not playing in canada unless they've been arrested several times so yeah let's be honest here um so that's how that goes um now 2006 like i said that all the rookies of the year and all that kind of shit he does very well 2007 new uh new south wales he's in here um he started the season at center but then moved to fullback because there was an injury and he got 12 tries oh including a winning try against the new Zealand Warriors in the first qualifying final of the 2007 NRL final series. So he did well in a playoff game.
Starting point is 00:21:34 I'm getting that from that. Yeah, that's what it sounds like, yeah. We are translating here. So he was accused of diving to impede somebody's momentum after a heavy hit on one of the games. And the coach for the other team, for Brisbane, said, quote, you can talk about ethics in our sport. You talk about not laying on the ground. Then he said that Haynes should be cited for bringing the game into disrepute.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Like a chop block. Yeah, I guess. I don't know what he's trying to stop from happening so sounds like he slid into the feet of somebody maybe somebody was trying to do one of those bouncy kicks and that's fucking disgraceful james it's you know what i've had enough of your shit you know what honestly really there's a certain amount we can take on our ends this ill repute i'm not gonna take it this is bringing shame upon the sport honestly it's this is i'm not gonna stand for it no no this is he's like prince andrew level of
Starting point is 00:22:30 shame at this point it's really just disturbing really honestly if i'm being i don't think i can talk to you i don't think i can watch rugby anymore from being perfectly frank with you out there he uh hayne denied that he d died to deliberately impede somebody's momentum and claim that he was genuinely hurt. Oh, he happened. So I was hurt and I fell down. He was never found guilty of wrongdoing by the NRL judiciary.
Starting point is 00:22:56 They have a whole panel for this. And, uh, yeah. I don't know about it. And then later on in the 2007 grand final qualifier it's getting serious now the grand final he was again accused of diving so people you know say he does that but people they said that uh one player accused him of winking after that's like he got off and winked
Starting point is 00:23:21 like see oh yeah i'm good he was flirting with him yeah he was like hey big guy what's that bulge in your shorts still looking like from down there i saw your whole balls is that a big cup in your pants are you just happy to see me stud so he got up playing it off huh i gotcha oh he said to lay down like this is a guy named clint newton which again very australian to lay down like he is a guy named Clint Newton, which, again, very Australian. To lay down like he did and then get up and wink. I don't think that's in the spirit of the game. Ill repute, not in the spirit. This guy's a disgrace.
Starting point is 00:23:57 That's fascinating, though, the choice of words. Because the NBA people go down all the time. They do that same shit. They wink or when they get the call they'll be uh booker even did he was talking about uh that was a lucas special week when he flopped on purpose yeah flopping is certainly an art soccer does the same shit it's an art yeah it's an art if you're good at it you'll get something out of it there's an art cp3 made a whole fucking career out of it a lot of not winning but the same thing well yeah that's a
Starting point is 00:24:24 jordan made a career out of that and winning he would do that and then use that to win and then put a whole fistful of rings on because of handsome extras so then he says quote straight up or straight after he got up he winked at dallas johnson facing us well dallas johnson sounds like a sexy man probably. That's why I think he winked. I'd wink at him too, I think. Said, whoa, look at you. Tall, dark, and handsome.
Starting point is 00:24:50 How's it going? Dallas Johnson, yeah. Haney denies, or Hane, not Haney. He denies the accusation saying, I don't engage in that shit. I just score tries and make people happy. Okay. Fuck your mother. Right up her fucking. Make people happy. Make people happy, including your mother right up her fucking people make people
Starting point is 00:25:07 happy including your mother bitch how do you like that i make her real happy when i pound that ass she enjoys my try loves my tries he had 12 tries in 2007 by the way 48 points which seems good here the next few years are very confusing because there's like league rugby and then there's rugby where he plays for like national-ish teams which is not like the regular league team so i don't fucking know the difference so i don't really care either is the other thing neither do you i don't think jimmy you give a shit no i couldn't care less couldn't care less it's very complicated and i don't i do like to you give a shit no i couldn't care less couldn't care less it's very complicated and i don't i do like to watch it when i get a chance but it's mostly
Starting point is 00:25:49 because i'm fucking confused and i i enjoy it i'm watching i'm watching it like my dog watches tv like there's shit moving around and there's a lot of action and so you just move moving back and forth i don't know what's actually happening I'm just following colors and movement at that point. Yeah, that's a funny way to think about it. I turn into Oscar. I'm just like, what? Who's that moving quickly over there? Like a cat in front of a fishbowl.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Holy shit. How did I get that? The orange one just went that way. Oh, shit. Okay. I don't know what's happening in there. So I guess he had a suspension in 2008 and uh in 2010 though he was named and played for the nsw blues in an in a in all three losing matches in the 2010 state of the
Starting point is 00:26:38 origin series against the queensland maroons hell yeah wow else team i wow yeah against queensland maroons you know what were they playing in uh the state of origin series oh i think this is where we're from motherfucker i think it's the aboriginal series i think they have to play aboriginal teams too i have no idea i don't know i don't know i think so you really took a shot in the dark on that you could be right but you had no idea what you're talking about i've heard about him i love you like i think he was nodding along as he said it like he was pretty sure convincing myself yeah and then when you stopped i looked in your eyes and you had no idea what you're talking about there was nothing it was the most unsure thing ever right there
Starting point is 00:27:25 yeah if this was an interrogation i'd go let's let's let's talk about that again let's take that back i'm treating this show like it's a game show james yeah and i'm picking a suitcase number 14 the 50 000 rape fucking pyramid we have here probably. So anyway, so 2007 for New South Wales, I guess this is in the, you know, for not in the league, whatever. He had three games and two tries. I guess that's good.
Starting point is 00:28:03 He was the 2007 Dally M Winger of the Year. Dally M, yeah. Dally M. And also the 2007 New South Wales Player of the Year as well. Hell yeah. I'm just going to say it, Grace. Let's just say Grace. That's it. He's a champion, yeah?
Starting point is 00:28:14 I mean, Christ Almighty, he's 20 years old. He's the best. He's 19 years old and he's already this celebrated, amazing guy. Could this last forever? I don't think so. Can't be. It can't be. And it starts getting
Starting point is 00:28:26 some blemishes here in 2008. If you don't know when Crystal Pepsi was discontinued, what was in Al Capone's vault, or which famous meteorologist is Lenny Kravitz's second cousin, then you haven't spent enough time on Wikipedia. But that's okay. I am here for you. I'm Darcy Carden, and I'm inviting you to listen to my new podcast, WikiHole, from SmartList Media. Discover the craziest rabbit holes on Wikipedia with me and my funny friends as we bring the cyber frontier directly to your tympanic membrane. And if you listen to my podcast, you'd learn that that's the sciency term for eardrum. We embark on a hyperlink rollercoaster as we start out on a Wikipedia page and go from link to link to link to link, careening through trivia, oddities, and unexpected connections until we collectively shout, how the hell did we get here?
Starting point is 00:29:16 Follow WikiHole on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to WikiHole ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery see he's not intimidated by anything I can fix that new cases She wanted to fight me leave her a Lo, okay, so not this is not a so this is a period Classic Judy, did you sleep with her? Yes, your honor. You married his cousin His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma Honor. You married his cousin? His brother. That's not him.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door. The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that? I have a crystal ball in my head. It's an all-new season. It's streaming. You can say anything. Judy Justice, only on Freebie. Uh-oh. Judy Justice, only on Freebie. So before the start of the 2008 season, he was out on the town with a St. George player named Mark Gazzanier.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Gazzanier or Gazzanier? Gazzanier. I'm sure it's Gazzanier because it's Australia and they're not going to kowtow to any French pronunciations in any english speaking it's a philip mignon motherfucker that's what they say they don't care um so a fight broke out between them and another group great obviously you want to fight a bunch of rugby players no is the answer to that that's nuts never ever ever um unless you look like miles garrett or you don't have teeth and you don't care yeah or you're a hockey player well you know there's very few otherwise probably not so uh hayne and the other guy gaznier we were then shot at by a gunman in a passing taxi there there are weapons i thought they weren't allowed to have that.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Apparently these people got a hold of some and were popped off a drive-by out of a taxi, which is odd. Yeah. America, listen, we know drive-bys in this country. If there's one thing we know, never out of taxis usually. That's super rare.
Starting point is 00:31:42 Yeah, what was this? What are you, Omar? No, not going to do that. That's super rare. Yeah. What is this? What are you, Omar? No. Not going to do that. He said later on that the shooting incident changed his life and was a turning point in his career. Was it a random ass? There was a brawl and a random fire? Drive-by just happens?
Starting point is 00:32:02 I guess it was directed at them it was at the king's cross nightclub here and shots were fired at them near the corner of ward avenue and kellett street apparently and um one of the radio rugby league commentators said it is my information that the player that was shot at is paramata's jared hayne i I've spoken to their CEO, Dennis Fitzgerald, and he has confirmed that he understands that Jared Hain was the subject of gunfire outside or near the nightclub this morning. We've obviously heard the reports, but we haven't been able to contact Jared Hain. So we are none the wiser in regards to this to that at this stage. We're trying to locate him and others
Starting point is 00:32:45 wow so yeah they're they're apparently this was at 4 a.m too okay again we say 2 a.m whatever happens is your fault because you shouldn't be anywhere at 2 a.m you're going there's trouble and i'm i'm i'm in for that 100%. By 4 a.m. It's for sure your fault. You're now asking for it at this point. You're asking to be shot at, to be out at this point in time. And then once 5 a.m. comes, then it's a whole other, then it turns again. Unless you, if you're still out at 5 a.m., your problem.
Starting point is 00:33:26 If you just woke up, you're making coffee and gunshots come through your window, certainly not on you. Not on you. No, but if you're still out, there's people clean in the streets, and 5 a.m. is a whole other vibe than 4 a.m. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. I'm out at 5 a.m. sometimes. And these cities we go to, and I can't sleep, and I'm walking around at 5 a.m., and I'm like, oh, no. You haven't slept yet? Sometimes not.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Sometimes I'm walking around trying to sleep. Yeah, I have a hard time sleeping sometimes jesus the only time i'm up again at that still up is if like the flights at 6 30 i'm not going to sleep oh no no no never i'll miss it every time absolutely yeah and i panic i lay down shut my eyes and all i think is i'm gonna miss this flight and james is gonna be in the next city all alone and he's going to hate me. He's going to be so mad at me because I fell asleep. I'm forced error, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Why'd you fall asleep? I'm tired too, god damn it. The whole time in my head I hear, why'd you fall asleep? Why would you do that? You knew you can't wake up you know yourself have you set an alarm before gone to bed at like one in the morning woken up at five and it feels like you slept for 12 hours and you're no no no but not like rested just like
Starting point is 00:34:39 it feels like i yeah you wake up oh god what happened oh god where am i i'm in so much trouble yeah yeah i have definitely it's 5 p.m isn't it yeah oh i still feel awful so maybe not maybe i'm okay yeah oh my god uh by the way this shooting was the second in that area in less than 12 hours after the car the that afternoon a 55 year old man was shot in the leg around there, too. It's a rough area. Why would you? Yeah. Wow. People said that the man who was the manager of the Sapphire Suite Club, he's the guy who got shot, was found slumped in its doorway at about 8.40 p.m.
Starting point is 00:35:16 So apparently, by the way, Parramatta signed Hain recently to a $2 million extension on his contract. Oh? Not bad for a 20-year-old. And he was officially announced as rugby league's fastest man after he became the highest-placed league player in the Gatorade Bolt. I guess they have a race to determine who's fastest. And there was other guys in there. David Meade, Michael Jennings, Brett Stewart, and Kevin Gordon didn't participate, even though they're fast.
Starting point is 00:35:48 So he's the fastest guy in rugby. Of the guys that participated. Of the men who participated in the Gatorade thing. Gatorade Bolt. The Gatorade Bolt event. So 2008 World Cup. He had represented Australia, but he was selected to play for the Fijian team because his dad is Fijian. So he can play there for the 2008 Rugby League World Team.
Starting point is 00:36:16 On November 1st, 2008, he made his debut for Fiji against France and got two tries. There you go. Which seems great. Fiji against France and got two tries. There you go. Which seems great. Fiji did well. They advanced to the semifinal qualifier against Ireland, and they had a 30-14 win, and he was very good in it, I guess. They beat the Irish? They beat the Irish, then lost to the Australians at the Sydney Football Stadium.
Starting point is 00:36:43 He said at this point, this whole experience with Fiji and his participation not only helped him become the best rugby league player in the world the next year, but it also made him find God. Oh, Jesus. What's one of the rules of crime in sports, Jimmy? You betcha. He hasn't even fucked up. If you haven't already got it
Starting point is 00:37:06 in your life don't fucking find it because it's going to be trouble most of these athletes nothing against religion this is only for criminal athletes finding jesus only tends to your life it's like a hall pass for them or something they're like oh well now i can rape with impunity it's crazy so it's very weird. Forgiveness. And this is only because this is episode 399. So we've found certain patterns here. That's why we made rules.
Starting point is 00:37:34 No teenagers in your hit squad. Don't name your kid Junior. All these different rules that we have. There's a whole thing about it we have. It's almost research. It absolutely is. So as soon as a guy finds religion, it's trouble a lot of times for an athlete. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:37:49 So he said for the next year after that, he said, I guess he turned to religion at the World Cup. He said for the next year after that, there were sleepless nights. I knew I was a marked man. I was told I was. That was pretty much the pinnacle of where my life was going. A marked man? For what? Marked for what?
Starting point is 00:38:10 Death, James. Death? If you like Steven Seagal. Success? That's true. He'll show you marked for death. Yeah. He said, I sat down and told myself, man, I'm a rugby league player.
Starting point is 00:38:21 I'm not a bikey. Great. Okay. Hey, listen. You say I'm not a bikey. Great. Okay. Hey, listen. You say you're not a bikey. I wouldn't call you a bikey, sir. That's weird. I'm even reluctant to say the word.
Starting point is 00:38:33 I don't even know if that's a racist word in Australia. I don't know. It's not a racist word here. Bikey, bikey, bikey. What the fuck do I care? I don't fucking know. I'm a little worried. Plead ignorance.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Suck a dick, everybody. Don't care. Hard enough to keep track of what's offensive in this country i can't fucking go around the world sorry about it you have a goddamn survey of what words offend you in those countries i'm not a gangster maybe that's some sort of criminal a bikey i don't know maybe um i'm not a gangster uh he said but the way that whole year developed, it became such a God-glorifying year. Oh. I don't know what that means. Give it up to him, James.
Starting point is 00:39:12 A God-glorifying year? Give it up to the guy. Come on. He made it all possible. Sure, yeah. It was something that changed my life and made me who I am today. Okay. Wait till you hear about what he is today when he's saying that.
Starting point is 00:39:27 It's not good. Yikes. Not great at all. 2009, he played at 5'8". Yep. Me too. My whole life. 5'8".
Starting point is 00:39:39 Jimmy, how tall are you? 5'8". 5'8". 5'8", mate. He played at 5'8". 5'8". 5'8", mate. He played at 5'8". That's a position. I don't know what the hell that means. 5'8".
Starting point is 00:39:51 Fifth position of the eight on the field, I guess. I'm sure. Why don't you just call him five, then? Why 5'8"? Yeah. Play the five spot. We know that. It's five.
Starting point is 00:39:58 In basketball, you're not two-fifths if you're a shooting guard. You're a two. You know what I mean? Playing three-five. Yeah. I'm the three-fifth, mate. No, you're not. You're a fucking small forward.
Starting point is 00:40:12 That's it. Son of a bitch. Get it together, people. You're confusing the fuck out of me. Stop making this confusing sport more confusing. Yeah, and you wonder why we can't figure the fuck out? You got a 5-8. You a bunch of bikey cunts?
Starting point is 00:40:27 That's what happens. I don't know what that means. You got a 5-8, you son of a bitch. You lousy bastards. He moved back to his preferred fullback position before the round eight clash with the North Queensland Cowboys. Oh. Which sounds like an all-gay team, that sounds like, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:40:49 For some reason, I don't know why. You get Queens and Cowboys together. You can't do that. The North Queensland Cowboys sounds like a drag show. It sounds like they're dressed like the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders. Exactly, yeah. And they play rugby in it. Very weird. Smart start, mate. cheerleaders exactly yeah we're gonna play rugby in this yeah very weird night um and a guy named dean ritchie of the daily telegraph called him the most gifted paramata player since the great
Starting point is 00:41:16 brett kenny god damn you're comparing him to brett kenny come on guys hey let's not get ahead of ourselves jesus christ dean ritchie of the Daily Telegraph. So, yeah, he was doing well. He did well in 2009. His influence, I'm going to read something from an article here. His influence on the game from fullback was lauded by many pundits as the Eels made a late-season surge. eels made a late season surge from round 19 to round 24 he won six consecutive man of the match awards wow six in a row that's given to the best dressed player every game it's just your hair is in perfect position it's a totally different thing your skirt is straight it's very nice he was
Starting point is 00:42:01 described as the best player in any code of football in Australia by a guy named Phil Gould, who I've never heard of, so that means very little to me. But a very neat guy. He's still great, evidently. By the way, to win the Man of the Match award, you have to successfully wrestle an alligator beforehand, or a crocodile, actually, I believe is what it is. Take one of its teeth. You have to, and wear it as an necklace. You have to prove it. Yeah, you make one of those hats with the teeth around it. That's what it is. Take one of its teeth. You have to. And wear it as a necklace. And then you got to prove it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:25 You make one of those hats with the teeth around it. That's what you do. He won fullback of the year. At one point, he became one of the youngest winners of the prestigious award of fullback of the year. And only the second fullback in history to be crowned Dally M player of the year.
Starting point is 00:42:42 Second only. Yeah. I don't know what's what the hell that is here um they said he ran 4229 meters with the ball in 2009 more than any other player in the league shit that seems like a lot i don't know how the game works so i'm not sure if it's scrimmage i guess whatever scrimmage is meters uh yeah i don't know. But he's good, apparently, for all. I'm reading this just to tell people who don't know anything. He's good.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Far as I'm concerned, he's Mr. Rugby. He seems to be Mr. Rugby. And also, they called him the Hane Train. Or they had a Hane. The Sydney Network Hane Train. Weird. Strange. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:22 New trains. I guess they were going to have a a train in the train system they were going to paint a train for him if they won some match i guess i don't know so 2009 26 games 14 tries 57 points shit sounds great he got a 1.5 million dollar a season um they i guess he was offered at this point Australian rules football offered him a 1.5 million dollar a year contract to quit rugby league and take up Australian rules
Starting point is 00:43:51 football so he said no he was going to remain in the national rugby league and play with Parramatta for four more years at 500 grand a season so that is instead of 1.5 million a year he's taking 500,000 a season. Oh. Hmm. So that is, instead of $1.5 million a year, he's taking $500,000 per year. He's going to run four years for $2 million rather than one and a half for one. That's very strange.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Yeah. Hmm. Odd. You Australians have an odd value system. You sure do. Money is important. You should get some. It's good for you.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Yeah. Your homes are insanely priced. Yeah. You better get that. It's good for you. Your homes are insanely priced. You better get that job and work on it. No shit. Well, I guess they would be because you can only live on the coast, really. You could probably get a house in the middle of the fucking desert for cheap, I bet. In the middle of the outback? I bet the commute inland is cheaper.
Starting point is 00:44:43 I don't know. I think I'm talking like miles and miles. I would think it would be like a two-day commute. Yeah, you can. Like powder dust? Yeah, out there, way out there. End of the train line, like that documentary I watch. I've talked about it a bunch of times.
Starting point is 00:44:55 Where the train tracks end. I feel like that's probably pretty cheap. You could probably buy most of the town. You could probably get a lot there, yeah. I mean, there's nothing to do, but you're there. No, there's no water so 2010 uh area here he was selected to play for australia on the wing in their victory against new zealand he was named co-captain of paramata in 2013 that's later on but he's doing well here uh he is voted by the public to play fullback for the NRL's All-Star team in the inaugural 2010 All-Stars match.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Well, it sounds like he's doing great, Chet. Fantastic. I mean, doing really well. Very impressive, yeah. Doing well 2010. He had 11 tries in 22 games and was the player of the year for his team. 2010, he also played some for Australia and New South Wales as well. He's an all star. March 25th though, or actually in 2011, he decides that he
Starting point is 00:45:51 tells everybody he's 23. He says he's going to quit rugby league. It's over. I'm done. To pursue his dream of playing in the NFL, National Football League. That's his dream. In America. And his plan is he wants to enter college and play through the collegiate system, play a couple years in college, and then enter the draft.
Starting point is 00:46:11 That's his plan. He's going to be 25. Yeah, but I mean, there's guys that did that. A few guys have done that over the years. Yeah, quarterbacks mostly. They'll do that. The guys that play baseball and then play. There's a few of them.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Some wide receivers were walk-ons at like 23, 24. But 25 late james it's oh it's late it's late but i mean your body's mature at least i guess yeah but he didn't he dropped out of high school and never got his high school certificate which is the australian so he was ineligible to play college football right so he couldn't play college football because they wouldn't accept high school man no so march 25th 2011 he talks about you know they there's an article about him and they say quote the kid who grew up in a housing pro and housing commission at minto in sydney's west rocks uh in sydney's west rocks up to paramata training yesterday driving his $130,000 BMW. Wow. Yep. Jared Hain steps out of his four-wheel drive, and before he even makes it through the stadium gates,
Starting point is 00:47:11 he's pulled aside for his first TV interview. Four-wheel drive? He's driving a G-Wagon? No, no. The Beamers. There's four all-wheel drive. Oh, BMW. Got it.
Starting point is 00:47:20 BMW, yeah, yeah. So they said that they were talking about apparently he had some there was some sort of uh rescue here we'll talk about he rescued somebody from the water he saved someone's fucking life apparently yeah and so they said do you see yourself as a hero oh boy they ask him all the time do you see yourself as a hero he saved a young female tourist life while out for a morning swim with his dad. So there you go. And he said, no, no.
Starting point is 00:47:48 The people that do it every day, they're the heroes. Okay. There's people who are constantly pulling people out from drowning. All the people out there having day swims with their dads and just saving people every day. Fuck yeah. He said she was obviously distressed and I was telling her to relax. And she was just saying she effing can't relax and i was saying well you're going to have to love you're going
Starting point is 00:48:09 to have to love there's no comma there so i didn't know you're gonna have to love damn it oh okay he says he can't relax well then just love he said just love love he said divine intervention played a hand in this as well. He said, I was actually supposed to meet up with a friend from church and one of the pastors and something happened and we didn't do it. He said, so the pastor said, that's divine intervention because Jesus sent you a different way because you were needed. Yeah. His wife had the liquid shits and he had to take his kid to school and that's divine intervention because she had fucking curry last night.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Fuck out of here. He drank too much and had the brown bottle flu this morning. Oh, shit. Jesus struck him with a hangover for you to save lives. Save lives, everybody. He said,
Starting point is 00:49:01 if I had gone and had brekkie, I guess that's breakfast, with him, thank God that's breakfast, with him. Thank God that hasn't caught on over here. If I hear people going, we're going out for brekkie this morning, I would fucking murder people. I couldn't take that. I couldn't take it. I couldn't take it.
Starting point is 00:49:16 That would be the end of everything for me, as if to see people on Instagram going, brekkie with my baby. I'd fucking, I will stab you in the face for that. I can't take it. Brecky. Everything over there has turned into shit like that.
Starting point is 00:49:31 That's the most annoying word I've ever heard. That's the weird part. Yeah, that's a very foodie thing to say. No, it was like if you stuck just a knitting needle in someone's ear. My eye had the same. Stabbed my brain. Wrecky. With him, I wouldn't have been at the beach, so it's mysterious how things work.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Mysterious. Divine intervention. He decided to go swimming, and that's what happened. So there you go. He says, I guess church has been a big thing for me, and I enjoy it as well. I probably go there twice a week. He's had a religious awakening, he said. That's what happened here.
Starting point is 00:50:08 He said being shot at helped too. That helped put it all into perspective. It doesn't make you think a little bit. Yeah. His manager said, and I keep saying, his best is yet to come. His manager's name is Wayne Beavis, by the way. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:50:25 Hilarious. And the assistant manager, Donald Butthead. Yes. It's very. So they said, think of what he was doing as a 21-year-old. He was simply outstanding. He was the best talent I've seen since Brad Fittler. My God.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Not Brad. If you're invoking the name of Bradad fittler we're really this is another level i didn't realize we were at yeah i didn't know it was to the fittler level of panic here and mate at 23 he still has a lot to offer okay absolutely so uh that's he said that he first discovered beavis explained this he first first discovered our guy here, Jared, as a wide-eyed 15-year-old, a wild-eyed 15-year-old, who grew up from a tough, broken home and is a kid who makes good against all odds. He said, and he has found a faith that suits him and gives him security and the comfort that he needs. I mean, you know what football is like.
Starting point is 00:51:21 It can overtake people. It offers a lot of things. It offers competition. It offers a lot of things. It offers competition. It offers personal challenge. It offers financial reward. But sometimes it can be a very hollow place. So I think the church gives him the balance and the exit from all that hype. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:36 Speaking of exits, his 10% gives me TP for my bunghole. TP for my bunghole. I am also a big fan of fire fire fire i don't know if you mentioned that yeah fire how could you go around in your life with the last name of beavis ever it's just hilarious if your surname is beavis at this point you know you got how many people are like for real when they meet you right really all right hey your whole family no shit really pop up you have grandma beavis you call her okay that's that's amazing sure we're going to Grandma Beavis' for Christmas. No problem. We all get, can we vote this year on what name we're all changing it to? Because we can't do this anymore.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's certainly not Beavis anymore, right? She's got it written on her fucking mailbox, you guys. This is not fair. Oh, God, that's fucking hilarious. Oh, man. So he talks all about him, and he says how good of a player he is and how he's wonderful and he's so young and he's great and Christian and fantastic. But you have to learn young that you're going to have to make a lot of big adjustments, especially with the amount of media pressure and scrutiny on the players. It's something that when you're young, you just want to play in front of big crowds and you don't really think of the downside of it. But there is always a downside to everything, just as there's an upside.
Starting point is 00:53:17 It's something that you never really adjust to. I guess you can alter certain things, but you can't really adjust to it. You can't really adjust to being insanely famous. I don't know how you do that we don't have any idea obviously but i mean i don't know how you would if you could yeah that's i feel bad for i'm okay i'm now i now feel bad for ben affleck because he loves dunkin donuts and that poor bastard gets a photo of him constantly carrying fucking it's got to be so embarrassing for him. He's just like, oh, they got me again. But he's also being paid for that, too, though.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Is he? Yeah, he gets paid. He does campaigns with them. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, like, he probably started getting the campaigns because the poor bastard was filmed and photoed leaving his house or showing up to the house. I don't know. Always with the fucking Dunkin'. It's true.
Starting point is 00:54:04 He turned it into a payday, though. for him and he gets donuts the fuck i don't duncan i'll do the shit for donuts tell you what jimmy and i will go out there we'll say glazed munchkins yeah i got a duncan like right down the street if i could just stop there anytime like kramer from seinfeld and get and the coffee's actually good it's actually good i like it hot chocolate everywhere else sucks it's actually good i dig it duncan so it's in every fucking airport i love that oh that too you got that july 23rd 2011 there's a little nightclub incident here i don't know if he was if it was like a prayer nightclub or what mr fucking divine intervention over here sydney's king's cross nightclub district he was in uh hayne was
Starting point is 00:54:52 allegedly headbutted by a patron at the beach house nightclub where he was celebrating a friend's birthday i guess king's cross huh in the king's cross uh hayne had lodged a complaint with police over the incident and uh they were investigating it. And this is the same area he was shot at a few years ago. He came back. Yeah, this is where he hangs out. This is the nightclub district. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:15 The Hayne incident comes ahead of when another guy, Benji Marshall, just got charged with assaulting a guy at a McDonald's recently. So they're making a big deal. He's interviewed Haynes about the nightclub incident, and he said he was the one who was assaulted. He's the victim, yeah. He said it was about 1.20 a.m. today, the police said. Again.
Starting point is 00:55:37 There you go. I'm the victim. No, you're not. Not at 1.20. No, if you're fighting another guy, that's what happens at 1.20. You dumb shit. Everybody's shit fucking hammered by then.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Get the fuck out. All right. The two men, aged 23 and 25, were at a nightclub on Roslyn Street. Police are investigating allegations that the men became involved in an altercation, which resulted in the 25-year-old sustaining a cut above his eye. He was taken to St. Vincent's Hospital. However, he left before receiving treatment. So they're investigating the whole thing here, I guess, because this guy had a cut over his
Starting point is 00:56:09 eye, but they're claiming that he was the guy assaulting Hayne. And Hayne is leaving to not have documentation done, which doesn't look good. That's what happened. That's the bad part. So they said the Eels said they're sticking by him here because he's their best player, I'm sure. We're sticking by him. Why? The details of the incident?
Starting point is 00:56:30 No, no. He's our best player. So we've decided to stick by him. We certainly stand by our best player. Fuck, man. So it's believed that Haynes was out celebrating the birthday, but people are like, why do you keep going back there? You got shot at and headbutted now. Can it be enough now?
Starting point is 00:56:50 He said that Haynes said he was confronted by a patron and assaulted before retaliating in self-defense. That's his story. Oh. He headbutted me, so then I clocked him on and fucking cut his eye open. He headbutted me, so then I beat the living shit out of him. Yeah, but I mentioned I'm a rugby player. So, you know, that's not good. July 25th, 2011, right after this,
Starting point is 00:57:15 he decides that he's banning himself from King's Cross, from the whole area. Probably for the best. The gunshot didn't do it. That didn't do it. It's the time he had to fight back you know he said i'm not doing he said he's declared it off limits to him it's just too too much shit he said he's got to get out of there and uh not do it the incident there was
Starting point is 00:57:35 conflicting reports of what happened in the fight so both men agreed to withdraw their statements from the police and just say fucking let it go everybody it go. Everybody said we're both dropping it. Everybody just dropped it. They both agreed to drop it because they would have to have been a big, giant innocent. Yeah. Yeah. They're both fine.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Um, so they asked him, uh, why he had gone back after he'd been shot at. And he said, that's a good question. That's a very good. It is.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Yeah. So answer that motherfucker. He said, I learned, I learned a good lesson that the last time, and I don't go anywhere near as much as what I used to, it was a birthday party that was a friend of mine and that's where I went there. So he said, that's all it was. He said, there was some banter that went on between me and another person at the venue that was lighthearted at first,
Starting point is 00:58:19 but ended up going a bit too far. Hmm. Yeah, that's it. He said that that morning I spoke with the person, and after talking to him, we both decided not to pursue the matter any further. After speaking with him, we both agreed that there was no malice intended.
Starting point is 00:58:34 You headbutted and punched each other. That's malice in my book. I didn't intend anything, right? He said that we're right. We're good, right? There was no hard feelings between us and we're both happy to move forward that's also kind of australian yeah you know just that we banged around a little bit it's fine now you punched me too mate that's it that's all it is so they um
Starting point is 00:58:56 he said what do you do lock yourself in a cage 24 7 i'm sure there are people who would like me to do that but i'm a human being and it's getting to the point where you can't even go out and celebrate a friend's birthday. Getting to the point? Getting to the point. Okay. His manager here, or the NRL boss, I'm sorry, this is of the league, David Gallup, he said, I'd prefer it if none of my players went out to any nightclub at any night and drank any alcohol, but that's not going to happen. Clearly not.
Starting point is 00:59:24 So 2012, he's further finding God here. More Fiji stuff. He's hanging out in Fiji. Really? Yeah, he's talking about how it's about not only the getting shot at, but the Fiji thing. He said that all of this can change people's lives and you can be taken on a journey to places you never thought possible. What is this, reading Rainbow now? I didn't know Jesus was reading Rainbow. That's what it sounds like.
Starting point is 00:59:54 He jumped into a pool of drinking water, James, and it was amazing. I probably found Jesus in there. Apparently so. He said, to see and feel things you've never believed possible, being so fulfilled that you'll undeniably understand who Jesus is. Yeah. So he's all in on that. That's fine for him. Jay and Fiji. Whatever's good for you, dude. Hey, keeps you out of trouble, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:00:17 2013, he's playing, he injured his hamstring and had to sit out a series against New South Wales that would or force New South Wales. And so he had to sit that out. 2013, he was a starting fullback on the NRL All-Stars team again. Yep. So he's doing well there. 2013, he organized two American football training sessions with college team UTS. I don't even know what the fuck that is. Taylor Swift is soaring high, her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans. She's broken billboard records and made Grammys history,
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Starting point is 01:01:34 or Wondery app. University of Tennessee, Southern, or some shit. Texas State? I have no idea. Between the seasons of the rugby league and NRL seasons here. And so he also requested Gridiron Australia, which is an organization, organize an open trial with an NFL franchise. But I guess he couldn't do that because he already had a contractual commitment in 2013 to play.
Starting point is 01:02:02 So that's how that worked he was named at center by australian coach for the kangaroos squad again as that goes there um i guess they beat the shit out of the united states uh 62 to nothing we don't really play rugby is the thing yeah but let's not play it at all that's the result well we take all of our football-type players, and they all play football. So, you know, that's just how it works. We don't have those. And then we let bar bouncers who also smoke play this, I assume. Probably, or small guys who didn't make football but still want to tackle people.
Starting point is 01:02:41 Guys smaller than Allstott? But Hain also scored three tries and set up two in Australia's 64-0 win over Fiji as well. Okay. So they're crushing motherfuckers, man. They're doing great. They said that of the team, this is his teammate Brett Morris, said, If there was a Harlem Globetrotters of rugby league, he'd be in it. To play outside him for the last couple weeks is something i'll remember they're saying he's silly good like he can be you know spinning the ball on his finger
Starting point is 01:03:09 doing shit this is the best one so yeah very very very good um the the hayne plane here okay this is his celebration which is not that big of a celebration i'll give you and i uh just a guess of what the hayne plane celebration is he does it like the new york jets yep he does it like a like an eight-year-old who's pretending to fly yeah who's pretending to go brum brum that's what he's doing he puts his hands out wide and runs. See a picture of him doing it? Look at him. Yay. There it is. He looks like he's saying, yay.
Starting point is 01:03:50 I did it. I can fly. Yay. Hayne playing. Whee. During the 2014 players poll, where 100 players from 16 clubs are interviewed, Hayne was voted best in the game. Not too shabby.
Starting point is 01:04:09 So that's how good he is. More about representative rugby. Finally, October 2014, we'll skip over the representative rugby stuff because I don't think anyone gives a shit other than like five hardcore Australian rugby fans here. Hey, wait, that's his best part. Oh, I was waiting for that one game against New South Kingsfart.
Starting point is 01:04:28 They fucking. Kingsfart. New South Kingsfart. You never heard of them? That's why I turned into this shit. Oh, you fucking American bikey cunts. Look at you. I saw his name and I clicked on it.
Starting point is 01:04:47 And I was like, I can't wait for that part. And now nothing. Nothing. Nothing. You cocksuckers. So he decides he holds a press conference and he said he will be departing the rugby league in pursuit of an nfl career really he's going yep he said that he was in negotiations before that for a new
Starting point is 01:05:13 five-year contract worth 1.35 million a season which is would have been the largest playing contract ever offered to an nrl player but instead he's doing that he was the 2014 everything player of the year fullback of the year representative of the year top try scorer and new south wales player of the year as well he's everything they're gonna pay him 1.35 a year that's that's what that's worth yeah that's crazy um reggie bush who is his future 49ers teammate uh-huh uh said that he viewed his tapes his like highlights from rugby league and said he actually looks like an nfl running back looks like he could come in and play with us tomorrow why not throw some pads on him what the fuck if he's fast enough he can take a beating what the hell so on march 3rd 2015 the Niners, San Francisco 49ers, gave him a contract.
Starting point is 01:06:07 They signed him to a three-year contract with a base salary of $1,575,000 over the duration of the contract. So that's for three years. That's what he's being offered for one year of rugby. He doesn't understand how money works. No, he doesn't understand time. Time and money and how there's an end to when you can play hardcore violin athletics. And you should save every dime you can. He doesn't know how time works at all.
Starting point is 01:06:37 He's like, I'm getting two million over here, mate. I'm going to run this one. All right, well, this one is just for one year. You can get another contract. Yeah, but this one's right now. Well, this one is just for one year. You can get another contract. Yeah, but this one's right now. It's right now. I got it. Four years, you idiot.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Well, that was four years, 1.35 million per season. So that would have been like over five. No, the other one was 500,000 per season. Yeah, exactly. And then that other team was offering him 1.5 for one season. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. And he's like, oh, am i that's it oh i'm gonna do it and he's also guaranteed 115 000 if you if uh should he not make the roster so if he fails then he still gets 115 grand so great and then he can go back home and make more money exactly do whatever he wants
Starting point is 01:07:22 so 2015 niners they're a terrible team looking for anything. They're 5-11 this year. Not good. Yeah. The whole season? This is before they were good, yeah. Okay. I guess there was off-season workouts in Phoenix in early 2015,
Starting point is 01:07:37 and Colin Kaepernick called him a phenomenal athlete. He was the starting quarterback of the Niners and said it doesn't seem like there's much of a learning curve for him. That's the other thing about football. There's a few positions, quarterback, center, middle linebacker, that you need to know a lot. You need to know all the fucking plays, what everybody's doing at all times and everything else. Then there's other positions like running back and defensive tackle where they can go right left and you run that fucking direction block everybody in your way that's it it helps for a running back to know
Starting point is 01:08:10 where guys are pulling yeah who's going where yeah because you may have literally you may have a guard pull and go the other off the opposite direction they're literally told what hole to go through yeah so they're like you're going through the four so whatever they're doing up there doesn't matter you just have to know whether you have to hesitate a second if there's a pull or something like that and know what hole you're going through. Sure. So you can take guys and like punt returner. Can you catch? Are you fast?
Starting point is 01:08:33 End zone's that way. There is no science to it. Wedge left. See ya. There's no science to it at all. It's literally run for your life and don't get tackled. Yeah, there's that. Yeah. Honestly. They can call if life and don't get tackled. Yeah, there's that.
Starting point is 01:08:47 But they can call if the ball is going right, they can say, we're going to run that motherfucker to the opposite side, but for the most part it's right up the middle. The runner still goes wherever the holes are, though. Yeah, where players are not. That's where they go. So it doesn't matter what the plan is in a kickoff, because by the time 40 yards
Starting point is 01:09:04 of 20 guys running happens, the whole thing can fall apart. With a head full of steam, forget it. That's why they got – like even back in the day, the Cowboys drafted the Olympic sprinter in the 60s and ended up being a good wide receiver for years. He's an NFL Hall of Famer now. So, yeah, that shit happens because you just need athletes in the NFL. Like I said, except for quarterback, middle linebacker, center. Those are the guys that need to know everything and what everybody's doing. So he is expected to compete for running back, kick returner,
Starting point is 01:09:32 and special teams type positions here. Made his preseason debut against the Houston Texans, making a 53-yard run the second time he touched the ball. Yeah, and that was big news. It was huge. He had five runs for 63 yards and two punt returns for 24 yards and a kick return for 33 yards. So he did just fine, and it's a big deal that he's going to blaze the trail here.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Yep. He said they were talking about how NFL is a unique game, and so there's a lot of different little nuances to learn and shit like that. But his coach, Jim Tomasula, says don't get carried away with the hype, but he also looks like he's going to make the roster because he's pretty tough and, you know, all that sort of thing. So in his second preseason game, he finished as the game's leading rusher with 54 yards on eight
Starting point is 01:10:25 carries wow and uh yeah pretty damn good also had a punt return and um did well caught a pass for 27 yards it was like an older over the shoulder catch pretty good he's a good player they're not i mean you give him a chance and he'll bust through a hole that's pretty much what he is so he announces in september that he got his first u.s majors uh u.s sponsorship deal as well who is that under armor oh under armor yeah that's that lingerie for men that's the yeah that's the uh under shit you sweat on here that's what nike nike employees call it really they call it lingerie for men that's fucking funny so lingerie doesn't have their logo all over everything fuck over it jesus christ imagine a victoria's secret had big vss's all over on the crotch of your panties because that's what's going on there yeah totally
Starting point is 01:11:18 different uh he said it was over the course of the last couple months they went back and forth and uh you know that's what they they did. They're very happy. They said they've got some great guys on board, Patty Mills, Steph Curry, who I definitely look up to and have been taking the U.S. by storm. Wait a minute. What? Steph Curry. Like, does he think Steph Curry's Australian? Oh, I see what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:11:40 Yeah, an underarmor. He's talking about him joining that roster. Because Patty Mills is Australian, too. That's why I thought he was saying that. He thought. I thought he was lumping him in there. I was like, you dumb dummy's not Australian at all. You're really stupid, dude.
Starting point is 01:11:56 You've been hitting the head enough already. Never mind. So, yeah, he said that he's excited. He's going to make the team here. Great. And, yeah, he said he can't wait for opening night he said i've been here four months and it's torture and uh he's ready to go his nfl debut regular season september 14 2015 against the uh minnesota vikings he recorded 20 yards from scrimmage the The Niners won that game. However, his first, this is Monday night football. Yep.
Starting point is 01:12:27 His first game. Showcase it. His first punt reception, he fucking bobbled it and dropped it. Torched it back. Oh, no! He buffed it. He dropped the kick. Really?
Starting point is 01:12:37 Can't do that. That's big. Not on Monday night football, man. Which, yep. He shook it off, though. He said he was doing fine and he's he's happy that spotlight is tough man that's very tough it really is it's a brutal fucking spotlight so december 2015 um something happened that will come up later just remember
Starting point is 01:12:57 to december 2015 while all this is going on okay um so i guess he was taken off the roster put on the practice squad then returned back to the 53 man roster the muff did it huh well he's just going back and forth because he's a um he flubbed three punts since the first six games they said so that's can't do that punt returning is hard and you can't and that ball And that ball is so small, and you've got to compete with how fast is that ball going to get here versus how fast is that man going to get here. That's not easy to do. And a lot of these guys, I mean, for the most part, normally they've been returning punts or kicks or at least been a receiver or something for the last few years of college and high school.
Starting point is 01:13:42 So he doesn't really have the experience in doing this. But that season, 2015, he plays in eight games. He started one. 17 rushes for 52 yards. He had some decent return yards and caught a few passes too. Caught six passes as well. No touchdowns. The kick returns, no touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:14:03 He had in eight games, he had, what is this, eight returns, eight kick returns for 76 yards. So not terrific, we'll say here. Not even 10 yards a kick return. Not doing amazingly here. And he also, I guess, caused three fumbles, though, on defense. Oh. Because he plays special teams.
Starting point is 01:14:22 Yeah. So special teams, receivers, and running backs will run down and tackle people here. He announced his retirement from the NFL on May 15, 2016. Damn it. Okay, that's the best one they had. Yeah. And you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:14:38 That's what I'm saying. And he's out already. It's not an insult, but it's a totally different fucking game here. He literally contributed the you know over a season he contributed the same amount of uh yardage as uh one guy does in one game pretty much yeah yeah that's pretty much what he did yeah that didn't do very well at all uh better in the preseason i guess yeah he joined the fiji sevens team oh in hopes of playing the 2016 summer olympics in rio and um he explained that he retired due to not wanting to learn a new playbook as the 49ers had just hired chip kelly to be their
Starting point is 01:15:13 new coach for 2016 yeah i'm sure that's what it was in the nfl that's how it goes every time there's a new coach you have to learn literally 7 000 new plays like that's hundreds of new plays you have to learn a whole new system everything that's every time that's what you know why because the last scheme didn't fucking work and we were 5 and 11 right it's pretty bad new scheme assholes so uh yeah he announces his retirement he said uh he wants to play in the olympics he said i simply could not pass that chance up the The Olympics has been something I have admired since I was a little boy, and it's an opportunity I feel very similar
Starting point is 01:15:50 to me joining the NFL. He's 6'2", 220, by the way. He's not a tiny guy or anything. He's a big fucking guy. He said, the support and understanding from the 49ers organization was unbelievable when I let them know about my decision to pursue another dream.
Starting point is 01:16:05 They were like, yeah, we were going to cut you anyway. That's great. Good luck. Can you imagine James being so good at one thing that you can parlay it into an entirely different thing at the elite level and then be like, ah, not for me. I'm going to go do this other thing. A third dream. I'll go back again.
Starting point is 01:16:22 Yeah. Now I want to play in the Olympics too. A third dream. That is fucking amazing. Wow. So 2016, after returning to America, or returning to Australia, he meets, I guess, Amelia Bonici. Or Bonici. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:38 Some girl here that he meets. Some model, yeah. I'm sure she's not unattractive. She's insane yeah so uh he makes his rugby sevens debut for fiji in 2016 he completed five of the six matches for a total game time of approximately 15 minutes i don't even know if that's good or not i don't know um september 13 2016 he is filmed this is weird oh okay um he was caught on video apparently handing five thousand dollars in cash to a hell's angel okay which is well you generally people who give five thousand dollars to the
Starting point is 01:17:23 member of a criminal gang, that's something. They're not usually Christian fucking, you know, upstanding guys. It's rarely for the toy drive. Yeah. If he was handing it to a representative of the Bloods, it would be, hey, what the fuck, it's the same thing. So they obtained footage of him associating with this person,
Starting point is 01:17:43 and I guess this guy was a former player, though. Maybe he was buying him a motorcycle. Maybe he was helping him out. Maybe he's a player who's fallen on hard times, and he's fucking giving him a shot. Who knows? Maybe his motor went. You've got to buy him a new motor.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Shit. Guys help out players like that all the time that they've played with that have fallen on hard times. The NRL's integrity unit will now take place, they said, looking into his association with known and accused criminals. Oh. They're falling on hard times. The NRL's integrity unit will now take place, they said, looking into his association with known and accused criminals. Oh. Yes.
Starting point is 01:18:15 They said that the, he said, Haynes, this is the guy who he gave it to, Haynes, he just gave me five grand. He said, cash money, fam, cash money. Oh. And appears to say something, and some other guy was there who was a convicted criminal as well so yeah it wasn't like oh here you're down on your luck he was like cash money fam that's a different yeah that's a different that was a different deal morgan that's not paying your rent no shit so he um i guess he guess he's going. He returned to the rugby league.
Starting point is 01:18:46 He signed a deal worth $1.2 million per season, by the way, to play what he's playing now. So he's doing very fucking well, I would say. So we have 2016. He's playing for Gold Coast. I don't know. He had 20 tries in 21 games, which seems great. That's great. Jesus. And then 2016, he doesn't do as well. I don't know. He had 20 tries in 21 games, which seems great. That's great. That's 2014.
Starting point is 01:19:06 Jesus. And then 2016 he doesn't do as well. Yeah, I don't know what any of that means. So 2017 he is on, for New South Wales, three games, two tries. And he represented Fiji in the 2017 World Cup and the 2018 Pacific Rugby League tests as well. Now, 2017, December 21st. World Cup and the 2018 Pacific Rugby League tests as well. Okay. Now, 2017, December 21st. Remember that 2015? Yeah, in December.
Starting point is 01:19:33 In December. Well, the thing that happened is he's being accused of raping a woman while in the United States. In San Fran? Yes. While he was with the San Francisco 49ers, he's accused of engaging in non-consensual sexual intercourse, which is, I believe, rape. What a fucking... You don't need all those syllables, man. If this was Jeopardy, you'd say, non-consensual sexual intercourse. What is rape, Alex, would be the answer to that.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Right? I think. Yeah. would be the answer to that right i think yeah with a woman identified as ms v because they're not giving her name out obviously in december 2015 so um i guess the district district attorney's office reviewed the case and later rejected it based on insufficient evidence haynes said uh issued a statement saying he unequivocally and vehemently denies the allegations. The woman is seeking a jury trial in compensation for the emotional pain, anguish, and severe distress it caused. The suit includes complaints of sexual battery, violence, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and negligence. Apparently, the plaintiff grew up in the Santa Clara area and had met several acquaintances of Jared.
Starting point is 01:20:48 And, uh, they, on one night in 2015, she was out with some friends during the day and attended a portion of a 49er football game in the afternoon. After the game, she went to a restaurant with friends where she drank before going to another bar where she became heavily intoxicated. where she drank before going to another bar where she became heavily intoxicated. A friend of Haynes had been texting her, and the footballer allegedly attended the same bar later on. During a police interview after the event, a friend of this Ms. V's said she had never seen the plaintiff so intoxicated, meaning the victim here. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:22 So they said she then alleges she and Hayne, this is Ms. V, alleges she and Hayne took an Uber back to his home where she was taken to a bedroom. She encountered a man with the defendant's build coming toward her. She said, the man put his hands on my shoulders and flipped her around so she was no longer facing him. This is from the suit here. The man instructed her no kissing, and shortly after, she experienced an extremely sharp pain in her vagina.
Starting point is 01:21:51 The next morning, she awoke in the same room and in the same bed. She was naked and had a sheet over her and was in significant pain. She claimed she was a virgin at the time of the encounter as well. Oh, God. And was afraid to become forward for several months and sought medical treatment. Later, Jared admitted in documents that they hooked up is the way he put it. But he called it consensual. According to the suit, the victim reported the rape to the San Jose Police Department in May of 2016.
Starting point is 01:22:26 And the report to police came the same month as he left the 49ers. So it was the same exact time she reported to the cops. They went and talked to him and he said, I retire from football. Consensual. Yes, that's that's interesting here. Just just an interesting coincidence there. A little coinkydink. So they said, we note that
Starting point is 01:22:49 the police in the United States did not proceed with any criminal proceedings, but we will review the information available and continue to monitor the civil case. That's Australian leagues there. So I guess on behalf of Haney, his law firm issued a statement. Mr. Hain and his management are aware of recent media speculation in relation to a civil complaint filed in the
Starting point is 01:23:13 United States of America claiming or making certain allegations in relation to an event which allegedly occurred in 2015 whilst playing for the 49ers. Mr. Hain has not been served with any proceedings or formal complaint relating to the incident. Mr. Hain has not been served with any proceedings or formal complaint relating to the incident. Mr. Hain previously addressed a complaint that made to the district attorney's office in the county of Santa Clara in 2016, and the district attorney did not proceed any further with the matter due to insufficient evidence to substantiate the allegations. Mr. Hain provided all reasonable assistance to the district attorney with that investigation. He unequivocally and vehemently denies the allegations, which are the subject
Starting point is 01:23:49 of the civil complaint, and he won't be making any more comments. Yeah, fuck off is what they say. So 2017, Moore comes out about this lawsuit and yeah, he just keeps saying, no, no, no, lawsuit and uh yeah he just keeps saying no no no didn't happen at all um not going on apparently so the church issued a statement in the wake of all this condemning any form this is the hillsong church that he belongs to condemning any form of sexual violence or abuse but they didn't say he did it yeah um he responded he landed in tel aviv after leaving sydney and uh answered questions at the airport and i guess a bunch of reporters showed up and he just answered wow that's all he said that's all he said that's it uh the full hillsong church's full statement read while we don't know the circumstances behind the allegations jared is facing in the usa
Starting point is 01:24:42 we condemn any form of sexual violence or abuse. Wow. Not saying he did nothing, but hey, if he did, we're not into it. My God. They're really taking a stand there. Dying on a big hill. Yeah. He says his family's been torn apart by these allegations.
Starting point is 01:24:58 I'm sure. He says our whole family's been torn apart by this. We're going through hell. That's what his stepmother said. Stepmother Tamara Regan and said, Jared has done nothing wrong. There's not even enough evidence to charge him. We're totally
Starting point is 01:25:11 standing by him. Enough's enough. Okay. Enough meaning one time. So, that's how that's going. He's playing rugby still. Plays for Gold Coast. 17 games, eight tries that year he the lawsuit though the rape lawsuit is set for california jury trial though oh boy yep it's uh
Starting point is 01:25:34 appears to be headed toward a trial uh they failed to resolve the matter in mediation talks yeah because she said you raped me and he said no i didn No, I didn't. And I'm not giving you money. So that's not going to work out. They're going to have to go to court for that one. So they're doing all of that. They said after an evening, this is the filing after an evening out with mutual friends in San Jose. Plaintiff alleges she was sexually assaulted by the defendant at his residence. Defendant denies this allegation.
Starting point is 01:26:03 That's the whole bottom line of the court deal. So they're going to go do this here. She claims she was too drunk to give consent, and he claims that she willingly engaged in sexual interaction that did not include sexual intercourse. He's saying he didn't even have sex with her. She's saying not only did we have sex, I was a virgin until we had sex.
Starting point is 01:26:23 She's saying not only did we have sex, I was a virgin until we had sex. So that is definitely not fucking stories that go together at all. Not even close to parallel fucking stories here. By the way, his lawyer is the guy who defended successfully Derrick Rose in a rape trial. No kidding. Yeah, so he's got experience here. So he's facing this battle. It's going to be a long trial they say it could be a long deal um you know it could last a long time yeah that lawyer's uh mortgage has anything to say about it he's like we're gonna
Starting point is 01:26:57 drag this out this is going to be very expensive it's really going to cost a lot of money could be just years we're gonna have to bring in a lot of experts on this one. I'm just saying. It could be Olympic swimming pool size. Yeah. His whole thing is that she didn't report it to the police for five months. So in his mind, that's the end of it right there. He starts playing poorly, I guess, also.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Playing rugby poorly. there um he starts playing poorly i guess also playing rugby poorly um they called it at one point they said quote after watching a mediocre display of one of the announcers wondered if he still even wants to play anymore oh no yeah uh one guy said i'm starting to wonder whether jared hayne really wants to play anymore his body language to me at times gives me a sense that he doesn't have that love for it anymore. It's his body language for me. I've just got concerns that he's had enough. So, yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:51 What is he, pushing 30? Is he walking down the field? What is his body language saying? Since he's returned from the NFL, it's been underwhelming, to say the least, his play. His time at Gold Coast, one person's quote here, was disastrous, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:28:08 And you thought the happy homecoming back to Parramatta, who showed some real hunger and resolve at the end of last year, really started to find some metal. That, adding Jared Hain and Kane Evans and the likes, would have sent them to the top of the tree this year, and it's been underwhelming. They said that Jared's career is in dangerous territory likes would have sent them to the top of the tree this year. And it's been underwhelming. Okay. They said that, um,
Starting point is 01:28:26 uh, Jared's career is in dangerous territory because he's got 10 weeks left to convince Parramatta. He deserves a new contract next season. He's 30 years of age. He's a two time Dally M medal winner. He has all the potential in the world, but if his career was to end now,
Starting point is 01:28:41 uh, would it reach the heights? It could have. So yeah, not good. November 15, 2018, here, the New South Wales Sex Crime Squad, that's Australia, is investigating an alleged incident on the NRL grand final night with Jared here. He's being investigated after a woman made allegations to the police against him of sexual assault in Australia. In Australia.
Starting point is 01:29:10 Oh, boy. They said it occurred on an incident on September 30th. Allegedly, the woman had been in touch with Hane on social media. It's alleged that Hane traveled to a house in the Hunter region to meet her and the pair had sex. The woman claims she suffered injuries during the encounter. Does he just have a giant cock that he assaults people with? Here it comes, mate. Yeah, it's tearing things for Christ's sake.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Ripping people apart. Is he rough? Is he raping people? What's wrong with this fucking guy? Does he have sex and violence together? Does that kind of thing? Yeah, I don't know. wrong with this fucking guy does he does he have sex and violence together that kind of yeah i i don't know um they claim i guess members of the woman's family said they're furious about the
Starting point is 01:29:50 incident and they claim the woman went to a doctor and say she has photographs to support her claim as well a statement from the police said police are investigating reports of a woman was sexually assaulted by a 30 year old man in late sept. And the investigation is being led by detectives from the child abuse and sex crime squad. Those are the same squad. That's a depressing place to work. God damn it. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:30:14 Oh, you found the rapist. Good. Now go. Somebody just burned their child up. Go find that too. That's rough, man.
Starting point is 01:30:21 So they said no charges have been laid yet. Just an investigation here. But it's not going to help him to get a new contract. No. Matter of fact, it's going to do the opposite. It's going to hurt quite a bit here. So he won't comment. He said no comment on this.
Starting point is 01:30:38 It's obviously, you know, he's denying it basically. Then he is charged with sexual assault and will have to appear in court with it in Sydney. In Australia. In Australia, yeah. He had to go to a Sydney police station with his manager and was later charged over the sexual assault of this 26-year-old woman. And so he is not doing well. That's a lot of trouble, man. He's in a shit of a mess now because it doesn't look good just in general in public perception, too.
Starting point is 01:31:06 If you have like one rape lawsuit on one continent and then the cops are charging with rape on another continent, it's kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Australian ice cube looking at you. That's no good. You're kind of fucking your shit up at that point. You're fucking your life all up. I mean, I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:31:23 How do you even go outside? Because he's very famous everyone knows who he is oh boy and then you know they're like hey they don't want to only talk to you about football now they're like hey did you rape that chick like that's a lot those chicks you gotta you gotta stay inside for that shit because you've you've painted yourself in a corner let's just say sure enough he's in so he does he stays home he I'm going to remember he's just not going out to the nightclubs anymore. He's not allowed in King's Cross. He's banned himself. Didn't spend a lot
Starting point is 01:31:50 of time at home, though, and he noticed, goddammit, the plumbing in this place just isn't what it should be. It's just not. You flush things, they don't go all the way down. He needs to call somebody to help him. And he finds his man, and he calls Paul Calhoun, shitpipe enthusiast. Who else would he call? And he finds his man and he calls Paul Calhoun shit pipe enthusiast. Who else would he call?
Starting point is 01:32:05 And he says. How is it you came to arrive here, fella? What the fuck are you doing? Jesus Christ. I'm telling you, I've seen some impacted shit pipes in my life, guy. But you, weren't you like the best player going? Like you could have been the hero of the whole country? You could have been the next Crocodile Dundee.
Starting point is 01:32:35 Do you understand that? You could have been doing Foster's commercials all over the fucking world for the next 50 goddamn years. Instead, what are you doing? You're injuring people with your penis? Guy, what's happening? You know how lucrative a mid-tier steakhouse is in America? Ah, for Christ's sake, you could have opened one. You could have opened three.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Dan Marley's had places open for 35 fucking years. He couldn't even play. You know what I'm saying? Give me a goddamn break. Anyway, your shit pipes look terrible. I'm going to tell you that. I can't even clean them out. You need lawyers in here to help me with these shit pipes.
Starting point is 01:33:05 That's how fucked up your shit pipes are, buddy. I'd say I'd slap your wife, but you don't have one. And frankly, I'm happy you don't have one because she wouldn't need a slap. You would have done enough on your own. All right, I got to go. I'm going poof in a cloud of shit and pipes. He's gone. And Jared is not helping because now he's like, I can't even flush my toilet.
Starting point is 01:33:25 This is great. He flush my toilet. Right. He took my shit pipes apart. November 21st, 2018, the alleged victim here claims she suffered injuries to her genital area and sought medical assistance from a doctor. Hayne was granted bail under strict conditions. Twenty thousand dollar bond was one of them here. And this, by the way this offense faces a possible 20-year jail sentence wow this is not it's not little serious too yep he had to turn himself into the cops and uh all that kind of shit and uh that's what's going
Starting point is 01:33:59 on so they're they're gonna plow forward with this okay And the NRL boss, Todd Greenberg, hair turning silver, said, I'm not going to talk about it. I'm not going to talk about the issues for Jared. These are serious issues, and I'm not going to add any comments to them. Please don't put us together. He's not even signed to a team right now. This is very gross, and I don't want to talk about it. So he pleads not guilty is what he plead, is what he pled. And on the way in, all the reporters were asking,
Starting point is 01:34:29 how will you plead? Is your career over? What's going on? Do you plead my career's over? Do you hurt people with your penis? Why are you doing this? That's not great. How big is it?
Starting point is 01:34:38 So, yeah, he's doing all of that. Total, it looks like that's the end of his career, it looks like, as far as NRL competition. He had 214 games, 121 tries in his career there. 2018, he plays for Fiji again. Whatever. Who cares? February 13, 2019, he doesn't show up for court, apparently.
Starting point is 01:34:59 Really? I guess his bail has been varied so he can go to Newcastle to attend court after for this accusation here. I don't know what's going on here, but I guess there was a confusion of which court he was going to. So he didn't show up for the right court. I don't know if he showed up at the other court, but I hope he did. Whatever. 2019 in May, they say he's close to settling his civil rape case in California. OK. in May, they say he's close to settling his civil rape case in California. They said the parties are in
Starting point is 01:35:28 the district court judge said the parties are currently in settlement talks and may be close to achieving a resolution on the entire matter. Wow, that's interesting. I would say they've agreed to a brief and limited continuance of the
Starting point is 01:35:43 court proceedings to do that here. I guess it's for monetary damages. May 15, 2019, he's got another problem here. He has to go to court again to face a second count of aggravated sexual assault against a woman here again. In Australia? Yeah, he's got to go to court before local judge magistrate before the local court magistrate john chicken john johnny chicken johnny chicken and i'm saying it is spelled chicken there's no other way it's chicken his
Starting point is 01:36:18 name is john chicken Chicken, your honor. I'll read right from this. Mr. Chicken said he had not been living in a bubble and understood Hane was facing a second aggravated sexual assault charge here as well. I guarantee there is a restaurant called Mr. Chicken. It should be if there's not. Should be if there's not. Yeah. So I guess they're saying that Hain had sex with a woman without her consent, recklessly inflicted actual bodily harm during the rape and all of that. So now they're saying there's something else.
Starting point is 01:36:52 Okay. August 31st, 2019. He settles the U.S. rape case. For a payment of just under $100,000. The U.S. one? That's the U.S. case. Yeah. He settles that. That one wasn't a criminal proceeding. It was just, you know,000. The U.S. one? That's the U.S. case. Yeah, he settles that. That one wasn't a criminal proceeding.
Starting point is 01:37:06 It was just, you know, whatever. So that's how it goes. So he gives her $100,000, and that's that. So the NRL said they have moved to improve off-field behavior via the introduction of its no-fault stand-down policy after a spate of off-field incidents. The new protocols were brought in after there were 66 separate allegations of players behaving badly in the space of four years. Sixty-six over four years.
Starting point is 01:37:34 That's not even that bad. That doesn't seem that bad if you've seen the NFL. The NFL has way more than that. They have a lot less players in rugby, though. Okay. The NFL has like 55 guys a team 53 man roster per team that's a shitload of players and then all the practice squad guys too yeah i mean that's a lot there's thousands of guys it's different for these guys here um so i guess his trial gets postponed
Starting point is 01:37:57 um to get a jury in april 9th 2020 and And so that's what's going to happen. I guess they didn't have enough time to start before they could get a jury impaneled. I'm not sure if there's like some sort of time limit, weird regulations in their court proceedings or whatever. Now, November 23rd, 2020, he says that he was in Newcastle celebrating a fellow player's Bucks weekend. I guess that's a bachelor party probably. Yeah, Buck and Doe.
Starting point is 01:38:28 Yeah. When he allegedly raped the woman. Jesus had a bachelor party. No, no, no. I think he's saying I wasn't here. I was gone. He said he was the jury panel was told Hane had been in the area for a two-day Bucks party with West
Starting point is 01:38:43 Tigers player Kevin Nakama. Several other players were there as well. He's alleged to have gone to the woman's, oh, I guess, no, they're saying he was there. He was alleged to have gone to the woman's home on the outskirts of town on the grand final day of that weekend. He's represented by a lawyer here, and that's what they're doing. So November 24, 2020, woman's text to Jared Hain after the rape come out. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:39:10 The woman who has accused him of rape says she just wanted to meet him and hoped it would turn into something. She wanted to see what he was about and see if she was whatever. But she said no to the sexual acts that occurred inside her bedroom, and that's what happened here. He had paid $550 for a taxi to drive him back to Sydney and asked the driver to stop on the way. After spending some time in her bedroom, the driver knocked on the door, and Hayne went outside to talk to the driver. The woman said, my heart dropped kind of thing because i thought he had only come there for one reason she said she told her mother as much and she wasn't interested she uh she said there's no way in hell i was going to touch him i was angry i was hurt i was sad i think the whole
Starting point is 01:39:57 time in my mind i thought one day could turn into something she thought he came over to hang out and then she found out he had a taxi waiting outside so he came over to bang her out real quick and try to get in the taxi so she was like oh well fuck you then yeah she said though back in the bedroom after she he came in from talking to the driver he forced himself on her and um leaving her with a bleeding injury god jesus she said i'm not sure whether he bit me or cut me or whatever the hell he did, but I was saying, no, I don't want to, and then I was bleeding everywhere.
Starting point is 01:40:31 And the court was shown a graphic video she took of her bed showing the blood she had lost. And in an hour, the hour after she left, after Hayne left, she sent Hayne two messages, two texts. One said, I'm hurting so much. And one said, I know I have talked about sex and stuff so much, but I didn't want to do that after knowing the taxi was waiting for you.
Starting point is 01:40:53 I'm sitting in my room crying because I feel so weird. And the court heard she received only one response, which said, go doctor tomorrow. With no connector words or anything go doctor tomorrow he takes texts like as like just a very like post-it note uh yeah just a real roundabout ideas yeah go real bullet points um his lawyer said nothing in that room was done against her will. They both intended to have sex. It was not going to be romantic, but it was going to be sexual. He told the jury that Hayne must have accidentally scratched her during the encounter. But the woman told the court that she didn't plan for this to happen.
Starting point is 01:41:40 She said, I pretty much just wanted to meet him, meet him in person. I didn't have any plans for what we would do or what would happen so um yeah she also during this trial she broke down in tears and was on the stand for a rigorous cross exam obviously at one point she said as she walked from the courtroom she looked at him and said quote you're a fucking piece of shit this was after his lawyer badgered her on the stands yeah um i guess during this intense questioning from the lawyer he asked one question and she said quote it is irrelevant no means fucking no so all the stuff you're bringing up i said don't put your dick in me and he put his dick in me which is the end of this that's that's the end we go home now jesus christ yeah um she said you're making me look stupid he
Starting point is 01:42:29 fucking knows what i said that sounds pretty uh straightforward i think here so um they said i thought you were the other woman at one point during a test snapchat messages she said i thought you would have at least asked whether or not I'm okay by now. And Haynes said, you said you were okay the last time we spoke, question mark. She said, you knew I definitely wasn't okay from the damage that night. It was pretty messed up and you just left me that way. You should have stopped when I said so. Then he wrote back, what the fuck are you on about?
Starting point is 01:43:03 WTF are you on about? Three exclamation points. Dude. I stopped straight away and made sure you're okay. We spoke for a while after and made sure you're okay before you left, before I left. You're starting to sound sus. He's a 14-year-old girl. I was going to say, so now he's a 12-year-old girl.
Starting point is 01:43:23 And then he wrote back at one point, that is completely untrue. Everything we did, you consented to. At one point, there's messages in the trial that are read between this woman and a friend of hers in which she wrote, I'm too scared to report it. He would have the money to ruin me. That's sad to hear. That's super fucked. Fucked. So then it was taken further.
Starting point is 01:43:44 She wrote to Hane. I've been told to report what happened. He replied, what? Followed by any allegations? Question mark. Okay. Yeah, I got one. Wow. He takes the stand during the trial saying he's apologetic after injuring her, but he
Starting point is 01:44:02 said it was consensual. He's like, sorry. I mean, I don't know, Mike. I didn't mean to mean to threw down some fucking some penis i don't know what to tell you he said that he gave evidence and blah blah blah the victim here he said quote um oh no this is what she wrote in one message quote i'm not gonna lie this is over instagram i imagined what it would be like to be fucking you when you started talking. Hane also told the court she sent him nudes and lingerie shots on Snapshot. He said it was a bit full on straight away.
Starting point is 01:44:36 She was pretty straight to the point. Okay. He said he's been drinking all day and he was intoxicated, but he was aware of his surroundings when he went over to her house. He said, I knew she was keen. Best case scenario, I'd be having sex with her. Worst case scenario, I'd introduce myself. That's when they asked what her intentions were. Her mother answered the front door when he went over.
Starting point is 01:45:00 Yeah, mad keen, bro. Mom's home? Come on. He said, I thought it was weird. I'd never met her before. Why would you get your mom to answer the door? Inside, he said that she appeared nervous, so he said he played a couple of his go-to songs,
Starting point is 01:45:15 which included Ed Sheeran. What a douchebag. Okay. Well, same to you. I hate this man now. He said, this girl's nervous. My go-to. This is what Ed Sheeran makes the pussy flow is what he said.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Puddle under her. Pow. Ed Sheeran. Here's a little shape of you. That's how hot I am right now. Jesus Christ. Ed Sheeran. Ed Sheeran.
Starting point is 01:45:42 His go-to is what he said. In 2000 when? 20. 21. 2021.-to's is what he said. In 2000 when? 20. 21. 2021. It is Australia. It takes a while for things to get there. It's his go-to's, though.
Starting point is 01:45:53 That'll calm him right down. In 2021. Yep. That's where he's going. He's got it covered, baby. Oh, God, Jesus. That's so funny. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:46:01 That is really ridiculous. I fucking love it. Ed Sheeran, he's only gotten worse with age. It's his go-to is pop one of those on his phone and pow. The panty dropper, Ed the panty dropper Sheeran. Ed Sheeran covering some Bruce Springsteen. Yeah. Let's hear the Ed Sheeran glory days cover.
Starting point is 01:46:30 That's what I want to hear. In 2021. 2021. So he said on the stand that she noticed his taxi was waiting outside and asked him about it. He said, I just kind of stared at her and answered in my head, you knew I was going to Sydney, so why the confusion? He then went outside, told the driver to wait. The woman had previously claimed that's when she told her mother he was only here for one thing and there was no way she was going to have sex with him.
Starting point is 01:47:00 sex with him. So Haynes said when he realized the Roosters were winning the grand final, he went into the lounge room to watch the end of the game with her mother. What a bizarre man. This is so weird. The court then, he then told everyone that he told her, the court heard he told her he was jealous then at that point he said of the game because he wanted to play he said i had a chance to sign with them back in 2016 so those thoughts of it could have been me winning the comp that's the jealousy then he went back into the bedroom where
Starting point is 01:47:37 he said he kissed her she kissed him back and then they took off they each took off their own pants he said i knew she didn't want to have sex, but I thought I'd just please her. Yikes. He said she didn't say no or stop, as she said she did now, and that she was enjoying it. He then said he noticed a liquid. There's a lot of liquids going on there. You got to be a little more specific, Chief.
Starting point is 01:48:02 He said it was like a shock. I jumped up. I jumped up and looked at my hand straight away and there was blood. I said it's obviously just my finger. It has obviously cut you and she was a bit rattled. What does she have? Fucking talons on
Starting point is 01:48:17 his fingers? What's going on? Jesus. He said that he reassured her and told her if it was still painful tomorrow, she should go to the doctor. And then he says he left. Okay. So then in the next hour, she sent text messages,
Starting point is 01:48:32 which said, I'm hurting so much. I know I've talked about sex and stuff so much, but I didn't want to do that after knowing the taxi was waiting for you. And he replied, go to go doctor tomorrow. Yeah. So they, they asked him about it he said i
Starting point is 01:48:46 remembered reading it you know what do i reply i've already explained how the blood came out i've explained what to do then i've told her how to be a woman and i told her take care of those things patch up your leaky vag and talk to me another time. I told her that. Holy shit. So then the court was played a phone call from a former teammate, Mitchell Pierce, which was recorded by police. I don't know why they had the phone tap, but Pierce asked, quote,
Starting point is 01:49:17 who's this Sheila come out saying something about you? And he said, full-blown weirdo, is what Hayne replied. Then he said, I'll get her for defamation easy that was his text back so now november 30th he's on the stand he agrees that consent was up in the air what yeah he said this is fucking amazing he admitted now that he was knocked back twice by her. But, you know, eventually she gave in. So, yeah, I mean, he's like, well, you know, two no's and a yes is a yes is the way he put it. Two no's and a quiet is a yes is the way he put it, which is disturbing. He said that she had given him promising signs and messages she was willing to partake in sexual activity,
Starting point is 01:50:06 She had given him promising signs and messages she was willing to partake in sexual activity, including nudes and stuff like that. The prosecutor said nothing she'd done indicated she would consent to sexual activity once you arrived. And he said yes. Yeah, that's true. They said consent was effectively up in the air, they asked him, and he said yes. Wow. He then told the court that once he got to her house, she said she didn't want to have sex. But then when she pulled her pants off and he proceeded to kiss and touch her, she never said no.
Starting point is 01:50:35 Is what he says. He also says that he had met her years earlier in 2014. At some point he had met her. And there was that um so yeah he said that he went back through instagram and found a message she sent to him in 2014 uh that he sent her saying good luck in a modeling competition so next day in court um here this is crazy He's on the stand the whole fucking time. He, I guess, he's being cross-examined. And he said, I know what I did so you can figure out the times for yourself. Because they were asking him about what time did this happen, what time did that happen. So they said, they asked him how intense the counter was.
Starting point is 01:51:19 And he said, what do you mean? Which is a good question. Yeah. And then they were offered suggestions. Like, is it soft, gentle, forceful, forceful rough you know what are we talking about here give us a descriptive word then he said i started slow then i went a bit faster you know like fucking or raping in this case or in any other case allegedly Allegedly, I don't know. He's claiming that it was just his fingers? No, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:51:48 He's saying there was, I guess, other. Yeah. He said, I don't know how to judge force. So the crown here, the prosecutor alleges that the woman did not consent and pulled away and told him stop and no. He was also, they asked him about a $50 bill that was found on the woman's bed afterwards. He dropped a 50 on her, she's saying. Clean yourself up. Yep, like Sonny Corleone breaking your camera.
Starting point is 01:52:11 He denied it was meant as hush money, saying it must have fallen out of his pocket. Yeah, when asked how he felt about what he learned about the whole thing had been reported, he said, I was fuming because she was full of shit now um the ed sheeran song is being used by his defense in the rape trial really like listen we're gonna play this song for you every lady in the jury get out of here they're gonna play it in court has your panties doesn't have your panties off by the end of it then our client's a guilty man but if you do innocent we're gonna put a humidity tester in every pair of pants every pair you ready you can't hide it we'll put a mirror down there see how this goes foggy in here whoa so they and they acknowledge the prosecution in closing statements they acknowledge his fame and success but urge the jury not to let this
Starting point is 01:53:01 impact the decision they said jared hayain has achieved a level of fame and success beyond that of which most of us will achieve. And his lawyer, Hain's lawyer, said Jared Hain did not commit these offenses. He did not disregard protests to stop. He did not sexually assault her. Yeah, they said they had suggestive interactions, and they argued that Hain had good reason to think the young woman was going
Starting point is 01:53:25 to engage in a fling with him but you can't that doesn't matter right none of that matters say the words yep so then the lawyer said a sing-along to an ed sheeran song not only are we going to play we're going to sing along to it and then i i'm gonna do this to you and put the lyrics up like this is a karaoke night is everybody ready wow on the night of the alleged assault was something done to quote break the ice here's a good quote he went he went to his go-to songs he was being nice this is not the action of a person hell-bent on sex there's no other reason to play an ed sheeran song unless you're trying to get laid in 2020. Or 2016 this happened.
Starting point is 01:54:09 I think it happened in 2018 or something. Wow. The defense urged the jury to draw on their own life experiences when considering the evidence. Jesus Christ. Here we go. The jury deliberates for two days before they decided to tell the judge
Starting point is 01:54:27 deadlocked what yep no decision is made they said no amount of deliberation will change this they shortly after they were told the decision of 11 to 1 would be accepted they said that that did not resolve the split, and they were discharged. They aren't even close enough for that. Not even close enough for that. So right after that's done, January of 2021, he marries that Amelia lady. What?
Starting point is 01:54:55 Who doesn't want to get married with this asshole? And they're going to have three kids together in the next, like, three years too. So he has a sexual assault retrial date set for March. He squeezed a wedding in between his sex assault trials. That's nice. March, jury retries him again.
Starting point is 01:55:13 Here he goes. Again, pleads not guilty. March 22, 2001, this trial is only five days. Goes on a lot shorter time. 2021? 2021. March 22nd 2021 he is found guilty this time of sexually assaulting a woman near newcastle my god found him not guilty of further charges
Starting point is 01:55:34 which included recklessly inflicting actual bodily harm but the big one there they got him on here he's been granted bail on fifty50,000 surety for sentencing. So he'll be out during sentencing. He said outside the court, I told the truth and I'll do it all again. What all again? I don't know if raping or telling the truth. What does that mean? I hope he means telling the truth here.
Starting point is 01:55:59 Yeah. So they said the victim here, I believe. Oh, no, this is the detective superintendent said we want to know. We want people to come forward to us. We want to hear your story and we need you to know that we believe you and we will be on the journey with you. So this is he's not it's not great being jerking these days. This is so bad. He's leaving just a trail of bleeding vaginas in his wake at this point.
Starting point is 01:56:29 Where there's smoke, there's fire, man. This is frightening. It's three people now on two different continents. It's not good. It's bad for everybody. I mean, I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I really do. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Jared Hain, dishwasher at Burger King in Memphis, Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:56:51 If his life isn't bad enough, that he's a dishwasher. An accused and convicted rapist. A Memphis Burger King dishwasher. They don't even set him loose on the fries. When he Googles his name, it comes up rapist or alleged rapist or whatever. Convicted, right? Convicted at this point, yes. March 23, 2021, this is after the conviction,
Starting point is 01:57:15 his recorded phone calls become public. Okay, so in one of the calls, this is part of the one where the guy asks him about Sheila. Yeah, the Sheila. Hane has heard telling a friend and one that Sheila went to the NRL. And the guy said, which one? And he said, from Newcastle. And Hane said, what the fuck, man?
Starting point is 01:57:38 What a weirdo. Short time later, he took a call from NRL star Mitchell Pierce. And he said, who's this Sheila coming out saying something about you? And he said, we were just fooling around, and she, like, she, like, bled a bit. It was weird. That's what Hayne told him. It's weird. It seems like every girl I'm involved with is bleeding.
Starting point is 01:57:58 She's bleeding all over the place. He said, quote, then she wigged out. I said, nah, listen, you're sweet. I said, fucking like my fingernail must said nah listen you're sweet i said fucking like my fingernail must have clipped you maybe you should have clipped those what do you keep your shit tight if you're going to be vigorously fingering people vigorously figuring fingering strangers fucking weird so they said you could tell so that i guess the police had began um listening to his calls after they were
Starting point is 01:58:26 alerted to the allegation by the NRL Integrity Commission six and a half weeks after the assault. So he didn't even know that he was going to be charged yet. Then he told another caller, you could tell she's fucked, mate. Just a weirdo, mate. You know, a young cow just carrying on.
Starting point is 01:58:42 So, yeah, that's not great. That doesn't sound good at all. So, then there's all of her stuff as well. The court heard that a jail sentence is inevitable, and he's going to be sentenced May 6, 2021.
Starting point is 01:58:58 Apparently, as his victim was escorted out of the court by police, she was being spat at. People were spitting at her as she was leaving the courtroom. Rugby fans are vicious. That is fucking horrible. The judge said it was clear the woman had been resisting Hayne during the sexual assault at her home.
Starting point is 01:59:19 She said, quote, I do not accept he was not aware she was attempting to push him away and trying to physically resist him. It is very clear that she said no several times. I have found the offender was fully aware that the victim was not consenting and went ahead anyway. His decision to do so increases the objective seriousness. You, sir, may fuck off a maximum of five years and nine months in prison okay yes um that is fucking crazy he went to a house not his sentence the whole proceeding he went to live we went to a house where a girl lives with her mother drove a cab there told the cabbie just hold on a sec i'll be right back i'm gonna go bang this broad out real
Starting point is 02:00:05 quick in the house that her mother lives in the middle of the afternoon un-fucking-believable wow the victim had said i've spent countless hours crying and feeling a violation feeling dirty doesn't that doesn't go away i have nightmares and flashbacks of his face looking through me sometimes i can't get out of bed what i experienced was horrible nobody should ever have to feel that way i'm destroyed and damaged but i'm still standing your body remembers but your mind doesn't forget i've survived this and i have protected a tiny spark of my life so um it's a lot this is obviously a lot um now his he's still married by the way he's been married a hundred days when he's sentenced to prison here.
Starting point is 02:00:49 She's standing by her man, by the way. What a gal. Yep. She said it's all good. She's going to raise their four-year-old daughter. She was born in December 2016, and she was at all the court hearings, and she believes in him 100%. Just couldn't be more on his side.
Starting point is 02:01:11 That's it. Hayne wrote, quote, he who finds a wife finds a good thing and obtains favor from the Lord, Proverbs 18.22. That's what he wrote. Sounds like a fortune cookie. And he said, it's been a roller coaster, but I'm thankful for God and what the Holy Spirit has done through us. It's only by the grace of God we are here and excited and moving forward as husband and wife. Yikes. Yikesy, yikesy, yikesy.
Starting point is 02:01:41 So he says we were meant to be. So, wow. Anyway, he's trying to figure this out. Now he's got an appeal coming, I guess. But he's taken right away to jail, obviously. He's going to be appealed. I guess he was allowed to travel to Western Australia. Oh, this is a mission.
Starting point is 02:02:02 They're talking about he did missionary work, so they shouldn't sentence him to get so Western Australia. Oh, this is a mission. They're talking about he did missionary work so they shouldn't sentence him to get so much here. Police reviewing video after his supporters allegedly abused the victim outside of court. They're saying that supporters outside the court she was leaving and they said they spit at her
Starting point is 02:02:19 and yelled shit at her. As court sheriffs approached the man and others urging them to settle down, the same group became involved in a scuffle with the media as Haynes' pregnant wife was ushered to a car. This is fucking nuts, man. Getting crazy. So that's not great.
Starting point is 02:02:41 I've never seen that here in the States. Thankfully, no. Mike Tyson, when he was convicted of rape, nobody stood outside the court and spit on the, you know. Robin Givens? No, the rape. I can't remember her name. Did he rape Robin? No, he was married to Robin.
Starting point is 02:02:57 He beat the shit out of Robin a lot. He raped the Miss Black Indiana contestant. So, yeah, that's not good. So, May 11, 2021, a supporter of his is fined for spitting outside the court. They found out who spit, and they charged him with spitting outside the court. Got him. Yeah, so they're going to fine him, whatever. September 22, 2021, he's sued for damages by victim of sexual assault.
Starting point is 02:03:24 Oh? Yeah, he's serving a minimum by victim of sexual assault. Oh? Yeah. He's serving a minimum three years and eight months sentence for this. So now she gets to sue him for monetary value as well here. February 14th, 2022, Jared Hayne has his sexual assault convictions reversed and a retrial is ordered. Really? Reversed? It is reversed.
Starting point is 02:03:51 His manager, Wayne Beavis, said it's a great day, a great result. Yeah, yeah. Thanks, Beavis and Mr. Chicken. This is a great trial. He's released from prison, awaiting a retrial. He has 15 bail requirements, including living with his wife, reporting to police three times a week. He's been sentenced to live with his wife. And not associating with witnesses or the victim here.
Starting point is 02:04:18 He is banned from the entire local government area of Newcastle, cannot have his passport back, or go within 500 meters of an international port such as an airport. So stay the fuck in your house is what they told him. So now he's got to face a third trial now over this. There's another trial they're going to do. And they said the prosecutor said they should they have to do it. It doesn't matter. They have to.
Starting point is 02:04:43 It's expensive. It's a pain in the ass, but we're doing it. So doing it so another trial i mean you're gonna have a lot of the same evidence here obviously um he pleads not guilty again the judge said you'll find out if you don't already know um concentrate on the evidence in this trial this trial alone is what she tells the jury so hey everybody can't take anything you've known before and put it in here and all that. She gives the evidence again on trial. Imagine having to go fucking say that again on there. Yeah, that's a lot.
Starting point is 02:05:17 Get spit at again. They said that they really get into the Ed Sheeran thing. Yeah. I guess the jury was told she sat on the bed. He laid down and asked for a laptop. Give me your laptop. I just bought it by password. And what did they sing along to?
Starting point is 02:05:36 What? Ed Sheeran's which song, you think, Jimmy? Is it Not Shaping You? No, no, no. It was his cover of Wonderwall. It is a cover? Fucking Wonderwall. Yeah, it's Oasis shit.
Starting point is 02:05:49 Yeah, Oasis shit, Wonderwall. Oh my God. Yeah, my Wonderwall. That crap. He covered a song. He covered it. It's not even Ed Sheeran. Let's hear this cover.
Starting point is 02:05:57 No. Oh, it's Ed Sheeran covering Oasis. Yeah, that's my point, is it? It's not even his fucking song. It's him singing, not writing. Yeah, exactly. Somebody. Jesus. Yeah, that's my point, is that it's not even this fucking song. It's him singing, not writing. Yeah, exactly. So they said the woman found the whole singing along to songs thing to be quite awkward, is what they said.
Starting point is 02:06:12 Yeah. They said that they heard the, he's trying to get her to sing along to Ed Sheeran covers while there's a taxi beeping outside. It's beeping. While the meter's running. Yeah. She said that that changed everything she said she was possibly gonna fuck him until she realized he had a waiting taxi out there and that's all he she was just a stop off to dump some jizz and leave she's literally a quick stop a quick trip a fucking wah-wah once he found that as she found out, and he went outside to talk to the driver. That's when she told her mom, well, he ain't getting fucked now.
Starting point is 02:06:46 Yeah. Not happening now. So, yeah. At one point, he said it was an up-in-the-air, best-case scenario. I'd be having sex with her, worst-case scenario, introducing myself thing. He said that again. He told the jury that it made her feel like absolute crap and was said she was stupid for flirting with him from the start and all that kind of shit. They go through everything here.
Starting point is 02:07:14 The woman claims that he forced off her jeans despite her efforts to pull them up, saying no and stop. He says that she took them off herself. She described his actions as forceful, fast, and rough, and she said no, no Jared, about three or four times. It's alleged he continued to perform sexual acts on her, but
Starting point is 02:07:35 only stopped when he realized, I think he was fingering her and cut her open. That's what happened. She was bleeding from her genitalia. Jesus. She said that she got in the shower to clean off the blood, and she was swelling and stinging on her genitalia. Jesus. She said that she got in the shower to clean off the blood and she was swelling and stinging on her genitalia. She had my God. She said, yeah, she talked about the the the the text messages back and forth. She said, I don't know what to feel.
Starting point is 02:07:57 I told my mom it was a nosebleed and I'm sitting in my room crying. That's what she texted him. How much fucking blood was there? It seems like a lot of blood. I guess she had pictures of it and it would be quite a bit here. Got on her face for Christ's sake? No shit. Wow. So March 23rd,
Starting point is 02:08:13 2023, the rape victim's deleted texts show initial interest in Hayne could have changed. So deleted texts sent by her here I guess showed a different. He's saying all these texts are obvious. So a string of messages from 2018.
Starting point is 02:08:38 She said she would only agree to see him on September 30th if her friend wasn't going to spend time with her that night. Like, I got a friend. If she's not going to be here, you can come over. One said, I feel like a fucking idiot. Are you coming over? If we aren't going to keep talking,'m going to say yes to jared otherwise i won't let him that's to a friend hey i'm holding this guy off saying come over or not so you got to tell me um the friend told the court he thought she was joking and chose not to respond to most of her messages because he was out with a friend for lunch she said he replied
Starting point is 02:09:05 quote you honestly lost me at jared hayne is your side boy and then had added four laughing emojis like that's not true just didn't believe her yeah so um yeah that's how that goes um she said the on the stand she said the taxi made her desire to have sex with him evaporate. That's what she said. The jury retires as rape trial number three closes up here. Wow. Jesus Christ, man. The defense attorney tells the jurors that the woman was much less than honest with police, gave inaccurate evidence and put the boot in, accusing Hain of sexual assault after a disappointing end to a meeting that she had insisted on.
Starting point is 02:09:51 Oh, boy. So the media reports presented a more damaging picture of Hain than the jury knows was the case. She said outside the court, you're not here to determine whether everything Hain does is a nice thing. The polite thing. Those are distractions. By the way, he's got this girlfriend and a baby at home, and he's so Christian and stopping off to fuck a groupie, at the time what he thought was a groupie,
Starting point is 02:10:15 some chick from Instagram. He's a real big Christian. From Snapchat and Instagram, both there. Wow. That is fucking wild. So here we go. The judge here, the jury comes back April 4th, 2023. And the judge told the six men and women on the jury to preserve to persevere as they returned a note saying they were unable to reach a unanimous verdict.
Starting point is 02:10:42 They deliberated more than 20 hours and retired a week ago. So they said they've been diligently performing their duties, but haven't been able to come. They said, get the fuck back in there and keep trying. Next day they come back, and he is found guilty of rape now. Sexual intercourse without consent. Here are two counts of that. So not good at all.
Starting point is 02:11:07 So now he's found guilty again. And he said he was devastated, devastated when they asked him how he felt about that. April 5th, 2023, new text messages come out, by the way. Uh-oh. New text messages come out that they were steamy messages, they call them here. This was two weeks before they met in person. She wrote, you're absolutely gorgeous.
Starting point is 02:11:33 He said, price it, was his reply. I don't know what that means. The woman replied, price what? And then she said, do you think I'm an escort or something? Because I'm not. Later in the'm an escort or something because i'm not later in the conversation she told him i'm not gonna lie i imagine what it'd be like to be fucking you when
Starting point is 02:11:50 you first started talking she apologized and then he replied very steamy yeah the prosecutor told the jury it was clear she found him sexually attractive which doesn't mean you want to fuck somebody when they stop by there. September 22nd, she had texted him asking him when she was going to see him. And he said she said, when are you going to be free? I'm never in Sydney. And he responded, I've got my own little one down ATM. She crook at the moment. At the moment.
Starting point is 02:12:24 I got my own little one down at the moment. She crook. Okay, there we go. The woman replied saying, poor thing, and complimented him on being a good dad. You're such a good dad. Now come over here and cheat on your wife with me. The night before the incident, the jury was told that
Starting point is 02:12:40 Hayne invited the woman to join him and his friends at the party. She declined and asked whether he'd still be there the following night, but he said, nah, going back tomorrow. She said, stay one more night. I am ruined with a frowny face. Otherwise, take me back. Ha, I'm full serious and something.
Starting point is 02:13:00 I can't tonight, babe. Coffee in the morning. So then text with another man. On the same day she was texting Hayne, they heard that she was messaging another guy. And that was, she said, you have made me feel fucking terrible today. Bye. And the man said, I didn't want, oh, they asked him why she sent that. And he said, because I didn't want to go see her. So the jury was told, the woman then wrote, are you going to talk to me?
Starting point is 02:13:26 Otherwise, I won't at least answer me and stop being a dick. So these sound like normal things. And then he said, you honestly lost me at Jared Haynes, your side boy. So that's so funny. That is fucking hilarious. So, yeah, that's that's how that goes. They keep going on with these text messages. She said she was feeling like an idiot. Are you coming over? I'm going to say yes to Jared. You don't have to come here. You'll be ages. You're being a jerk is what she said to the other guy. You said maybe. So I'm asking if you're not blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay. So he ends up coming over and that all happens. And we talked about all of that. So the other thing is that she told several people, I guess, that she was afraid to come forward because he would ruin her because he has money.
Starting point is 02:14:17 So that's how that goes. April 6th, 2023, the bail is continued. So he's able to stay out on bail here. He's going to be sentenced at a later date. And his wife said she's just devastated, obviously. Sure. His lawyer said it would be so oppressive to take this man from his family while those arrangements are being made. They're saying let him stay out until he's at least until he gets sentenced here.
Starting point is 02:14:43 But they jail him ahead of sentencing oh is that right instead yep they jail him ahead they said the presumption of innocence has been overcome and for all purposes within the criminal justice system it is established that mr hayne is a person who committed two extremely grave sexual offenses yeah um so he's awaiting sentencing and i guess the victim said it's just she she keeps getting, you know, harassed and everything else. And she said that it's been a never ending nightmare for five years since this started. Yeah. So again, he is sentenced to you, sir.
Starting point is 02:15:16 May fuck off four years and nine months in jail now. Wow. Yep. A sentence was handed down. The minimum is three years years and he exclaimed fucking three years bro three years is what he exclaimed here and um so now he's got to go to prison apparently years yeah for three years it's a four-year sentence it's the third trial he's had for this jesus christ i don't even know what to say about this it's
Starting point is 02:15:45 that a girl can be willing to sleep with people uh and even though she says no you're still going to get after and then act like and then you're gonna throw the fact that she's down in her face that's fucked up it's very fucking fucked up just just because she's willing to fuck sometimes and by the way this time he weighs he weighs 104 kilograms that's and she weighs 48 okay twice so he's more than twice her weight yeah that's the other thing is a problem um his lawyer by the way wow um the lawyer said the length of the offending was more important in the context of the case and would affect the objective seriousness. She told the court that there was an unambiguous and mutual sexual content in the lead up to the rape. The court heard the act occurred between two grown adults with the woman knowing who Jared Haynes was before urging him to come over. Then they said, quote, there is an eloquent testament of Mr. Haynes' pastor
Starting point is 02:16:47 of his commitment to his Christian faith. What? So she goes on to all that and then says, you should read the letter from his pastor that says what a great Christian he is. In the previous breath, they were talking about how he was going to go cheat on his girlfriend
Starting point is 02:17:00 and go fuck this girl real quick. Great guy. What is going on here um they said he doesn't the lawyer said that he's a very different man than the person who committed the offense in 2018 he doesn't possess the personality and thought patterns and sexual arousal patterns of a sex offender he's also and also because of his life which has turned around considerably since the hiatus in the relationship with his now wife. Wow. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 02:17:31 So he can tone it down sometimes. He's been a Christian, I thought, since like 2012. So what the fuck are you talking about here? The jury deliberated for 23 and a half hours on this also here. May 13, 2023, 25 minutes of outside time and an isolated cell is what he's got right now that's what he gets 25 minutes a day and uh there he is he is a prisoner number oh by the way he uh he has a couple of jobs here sewing clothes or doing prison laundry or two of his jobs. He is referred to as prisoner six, six,
Starting point is 02:18:06 one, seven, three, six in a three meter by four meter cell. Oh Jesus. So nine by 12 with only 25 minutes of outside time allowed to walk around and read his Bible. So there you go.
Starting point is 02:18:21 That's what he gets to do. And, um, by the way, that whole encounter with the woman who he's charged for, 46 minutes from the time he arrived to the time he left. We know that from the taxi because they had a fucking meter going. They had a time going, yeah.
Starting point is 02:18:33 They know exactly how long he was in there. And he watched some NRL, too. And he watched, yeah. Wow. That includes watching the end of his shit. A little NRL, a little Ed Sheeran, a little finger, jump in the car. Jump back in. He was earning $48.96 a week to wash fellow inmates' sheets for 42 hours a week.
Starting point is 02:18:54 So not exactly making the same kind of cash he used to make. June 26, 2023, he is now completely fucked financially, forced to sell off investment properties to fund his failed $13,000 a day legal fight. Wow. Then he was fleeced out of $780,000 by a con man he met in prison. Why would you give money to somebody you met in prison? He's going to set him up so that when he gets out, everything will be all right. Conned out of $780,000 in what, Jimmy?
Starting point is 02:19:26 Bitcoin. Scammed him. Got him in crypto. Yep. A fraudster named Ishan Saneer Sapadin convinced Hain that he made millions of dollars investing with Australian billionaire Mike Cannon Brooks. The con man told Hain and other inmates he could deliver big returns if they invested with him. It's understood that Hayne and the other inmates' money was transferred by people or organizations outside the jail who had access to their bank accounts or money,
Starting point is 02:19:56 and it was transferred to business accounts that were controlled by other people, and then it was fucking gone. So... That guy's probably dead. Yeah, not good at all. At all, we'll say here. Holy shit. So he's in a lot of fucking trouble.
Starting point is 02:20:13 He used to have a bunch of millions of dollars in investment properties, and they're all fucking gone now. All gone. Everything's gone. They called him a property aficionado, who's now not aficionado of anything. And they called him a property aficionado, who's now not aficionado of anything. July 1st, 2023, there is a, quote, life-threatening prison emergency during a touch footy game with fellow inmates. Yeah. And there's a video, a jail footy match involving rapist Jared Hain ended in horror when a player collapsed and stopped breathing on the pitch. Oh, no.
Starting point is 02:20:44 Yeah. Prison staff sprint across the field to pick him up and take him away. Hayne can be seen holding a towel up to protect the man from the sun as the prison guards work to revive him. He suffered a heart attack. Not like somebody stabbed him. Here, that would have been a shanking or something. It's natural causes over there.
Starting point is 02:21:01 They figured, oh, no, something happened to him, but nothing happened to him. He once had over five million dollars. Now he's got nothing and he's trying to cover fucking prisoners getting heart attacks. Now, another problem here, he's set for another fight as the woman was he was found guilty of sexually assaulting, began the civil proceedings against him now as well. He already paid one hundred thousand to the woman in Californiaia and now he's being sued here as well not good he's set to fight it's a 750 000 lawsuit oh but he's saying he's got an appeal looming so they can't do this can you just never ending appeal shit evidently i don't know how this works but they let him out they let him back in this is fucking wild man um she says that she didn't want any money um but now she's suing
Starting point is 02:21:53 so they're they're making her lawyers are saying thought she didn't want any money now she's suing well maybe if you get abused and spit on for long enough maybe you want to sue too yeah i mean uh what are you gonna do i don't If I get raped, I think I might want a house out of it. Yeah, fuck you. Yeah, why should you be rich? Right. You're rich and I'm raped? Eat shit.
Starting point is 02:22:12 Why is that a good trade-off? This is a bullshit trade-off, man. So he has to go to court again. He'll try to overturn his rape convictions a third time. This is 2024, January 25th, 2024. So it just fucking happened. At this point, he's eligible for parole in May of 2025. Might as well just fucking stay in there at this point.
Starting point is 02:22:33 Just get it over with. So he's going to watch a via audiovisual link from custody while the appeal is heard in April. It's not a retrial. It's just an appeal, obviously. So we'll see what happens. That hasn't happened yet. February 12, 2024,
Starting point is 02:22:50 he is denied being able to watch the Super Bowl. Oh, because of the Niners. Because it's the Niners, yeah. It went on at 10.30 a.m. here in Australia. He will be required to undergo prison work and won't get a
Starting point is 02:23:05 pass to be able to watch the game he said can i get a pass for three hours they said nope no you know the rake he said on weekdays inmates are required to participate in programs training education and work during the day inmates can watch network television when they're in their cells during lockdown or during lock-in on TVs or inmate tablets. Inmates will be expected to attend regular activities on Monday. Oh, and that's the next day. It's Monday there. It's not Sunday there.
Starting point is 02:23:33 So he's fucked. He never got to watch the Super Bowl this year. The guy, the supporter who spat in the direction of his rape victim, is awarded $35,000 in defamation. What? And defamation ruling. Apparently, despite a judge finding he engaged in, quote, generally disgraceful behavior here, this is Mina Grice is the name,
Starting point is 02:23:57 was among a group of attendees, a group of people attending the courthouse here. I don't know what's going on here, but this guy, Grice denied he spat at the victim. He sued Seven Network Journalism thing for media for defamation over this. And he won. So there you go. I don't know what,
Starting point is 02:24:21 we don't know what the fuck happened, but he's got uh 35 money yeah so march 6 2024 this is what the last fucking four days ago yeah so um he is trying to huh okay he's trying to overturn the conviction again here like i said so um he he's got a hearing set for april 3rd and it's set to last four hours and uh there he is so he's trying to get it squashed or quashed for the second time here we'll see it'll be happening while you're waiting for that can't get enough jared hayne well we have for you the jared hayne apparel snapback baseball cap red black. He's got his own brand here.
Starting point is 02:25:05 Check that out. With the J and the H there. Wow. Look at that. $14 Australian. Yeah. You can get it shipped to the U.S. for $18 if you want to wear the red hat of a rapist here. Red with a black bill and it's got black J-H with lines next to the H's too.
Starting point is 02:25:24 Fascinating that he picked red you know the color of blood when he's getting yeah rape charge against him or a woman said she bled all over the bed probably not the best thing for but maybe go with some yellow i don't know something that's that's discharged still pus i don't like it i don't like it no pus colored bullshit so there you go everybody that wow That is Jared Hain. And let's see. He might get out. Who knows?
Starting point is 02:25:47 He might be out next month. We have no idea. Adjudicated rapist at this point, though. Yeah, seems like kind of a bad guy. Bad guy because of this, and not only because of the rape stuff, but even if he's not a rapist, I don't like these asshole, I'm- except for at night when I fuck groupies bullshit. Via cab. I can't stand that bullshit.
Starting point is 02:26:10 That's why Michael Irvin was the same way. I don't care if you do coke and fuck groupies. Don't tell me what a Christian you are. Stop that. Stop. Don't make sure the camera gets your prayer circle and then go out there and then do that and be like, the Lord and Jesus, fuck you. Shut up. Hate that shit.
Starting point is 02:26:29 So that's why I hate this guy because he's a fucking hypocritical twat. Sorry, he's Australian. Australian, he's a hypocritical cunt. He's a bikey cunt. That's probably what he is. There you go. So if you like that show, tell the world about it. Give us a review.
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Starting point is 02:28:28 Jimmy hit me with the names of the most wonderful goddamn people who keep this show going and know what the crime and sports movement is all about let's hear them executive producer of Bobby Evil Bobby Borsich Evil Bobby Margaret Spuchepka
Starting point is 02:28:43 Madeline Herman Kyle Norweg Sitch. Wow. Evil Bobby. All right. Margaret Spuchepka. Spuchepka. They're coming hard with the names this week. Kyle Norweg. Pat McGroin. Also, I imagine their uncle and aunt Rub and Tug. Yeah, definitely. Jillian Fryer. Maybe Jillian. It's Jillian, right?
Starting point is 02:28:58 It's got to be Jillian. I don't know. More than likely, but you never know. Isaac Bechivitz Singer. Dr. Reverend Alex Rieger. Private Eye Mel Saddam. What is it? Alex Rieger is Judd Hirsch on Taxi.
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Starting point is 02:29:21 Last year I told her she could do better. This year I think she did yeah rebecca sorensen uh janice hill marga martha gilreath uh maybe it's gilretha uh martha gilretha is in the award uh yes i think that i'm not sure i maybe dodson's mom is it might be a reference uh ral ral varick uh from club platinum what's club platinum what is that that's something that's It might be a reference. Raul Varick from Club Platinum. What's Club Platinum? What is that? That's something.
Starting point is 02:29:48 Fucking beats the shit out of me. That's a reference to something, I think. That's like a strip club, right? Unless Raul Varick just loves their business and they want us to know. Atlanta Strip Club? It's got to be. I assume. Gold Club.
Starting point is 02:29:58 This one's something like that. Something, yeah. Kane Porter. Keeney? Maybe Kenny. No last name. Summer with no last name. Sage Marie, Gabrielle Prohl.
Starting point is 02:30:07 I think that's Ricky's kid. Emily Baca. He was great. That guy was awesome. He was a great player. Certainly went away so fast with zero. He's not a Hall of Famer. He's so fun.
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