Crime in Sports - #402 - Murder, Laundry & Bootleg DVDs - Roshaun Jones

Episode Date: April 2, 2024

This week, we check out a not very successful MMA fighter, who was arrested for just about anything you can think. Forgery, bad checks, drugs, assaulting pregnant women, counterfeiting money,... selling bootleg DVDs, driving very poorly... and a double murder. He takes no responsibility for anything, and is awful at hiding his weed. It's Roshaun Jones!!Be arrested several times, before you even start your sport, get arrested for a vicious double homicide, that really seems to be your doing, and tell the world that you're being persecuted with Roshaun Jones!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:01:28 Oh, yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petragallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you folks so much for joining us today on a fun, wild, crazy tale of a guy, very little sports in this one. He didn't have time for sports because it would interrupt his busy getting arrested schedule.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So one of these guys that just squeezed a little bit of sports in between jail bids and standoffs with police and counterfeiting money in DVDs and all sorts of weird shit. And then finally topping it off with a horrific cherry on top of a murder that we'll talk about here. So it's wild stuff. We got all sorts of craziness here. Before we get to that, just want to tell everybody, first of all, thank you for all that you
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Starting point is 00:03:55 Jimmy's going to mispronounce your name horribly while trying his best to read it correctly. So that'll be a lot of fun. We're going to do all of that. That said, let's get to it, because we got a real asshole for us this week here. Roshan, R-O-S-H-A-U-N. And that's important, the spelling, because there is some serious confusion
Starting point is 00:04:17 with another asshole named Roshan Jones. Same name, but R-A-S instead of R-O-S. So. S-H-A-U-N still. Still, same, and Jones. Same name, but R-A-S instead of R-O-S. So S-H-A-U-N still. Still. Same, and Jones. Same thing. This is Roshan Bernard Jones. He is born May 28th, 1983 in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Oh, boy. And he'll have a lot of his problems in Oklahoma as well. I guess he grows up with a sister named Trinetta Jones and from what I understand though he didn't really grow up with his sister because he grew up in various foster care facilities. Oh yeah he's like a wire kid basically like foster care and OKC foster care yeah in the 80s and OKC his parents. His parents just not around at all. And then he apparently, when he was a teenager, and not like 18, more like, you know, 15s region, just went out on his own and left foster care and just, you know, kind of did
Starting point is 00:05:18 his own thing. I figured it out. Yeah, which is interesting here because sometimes that can work out very well and sometimes that can work out very bad. Yeah. And this guy somehow has taken a little from column A and a little from column B and worked it out, which is very strange because he, at some point, I don't know how or when, but at some point he got a bachelor degree in business marketing from Oklahoma State University. I don't know how
Starting point is 00:05:45 he did that. Oh, S.U. I'm not sure how that happened. Really? Business marketing? I don't know. I can't even, I can't envision circumstances that he left foster care as a teenager and then somehow ended up in college graduating and then had this ridiculous life of stupidity afterwards. It just doesn't make sense. It makes no sense.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Did he go to college for sports? I don't think so, no, because he's not really a great athlete at all, as we'll talk about. He's an MMA fighter and he's not good at it. So I don't know what other sports he was doing, but I'm not sure exactly what's going on here with this guy.
Starting point is 00:06:25 Right. But I will say this, Grace, this is Grace. All right. It's from college. He's born, he went to school at some point, life hasn't been good. Let's just say Grace because- But he's got a degree, man. He's got a degree.
Starting point is 00:06:38 No, I don't know how he got the degree because look at it this way. In 2002, he has multiple felony convictions in Illinois for theft and obstructing justice as well. In Illinois. In Illinois. So, I mean, it's not that far from Oklahoma, I guess, is a drive you could put. Yeah, it's a bit.
Starting point is 00:06:59 That would have been when he was 19. So that would have been while he was in college. So at some point in his victorious, yeah, and his victorious marketing, you know, career at Oklahoma State, he was arrested in the middle of it, but then still stayed and got his degree. That's possible. It happens. People get arrested in college. Yeah, I guess. I think around this time we're not sure, but we think he has a son. Okay. This guy isn't famous enough for his sports to know every little thing about him. That's the problem. So he's more famous for crime than sports. Now we found a young man named
Starting point is 00:07:39 Roe Shawn Jones, who seems to be born or the same year, 2002, as when we think he had a son. So. Oh, so he may have a junior. We're thinking this is a possible junior, but it's not, we're not sure. This particular Roshan, here's why I think it might not be him, okay?
Starting point is 00:07:58 There's multiple reasons to think it is, but the reason why it possibly isn't is this Roshan plays high school basketball and he's six foot four. Our Roshan is a little guy. Hmm. Well, maybe his mom's side. He's not a big guy. I don't know. Yeah, maybe his mom's enormous, so I'm not positive, but... My kid's five-eleven. Yeah, but that's, you know, what, three, four inches taller than you? That's not that big.
Starting point is 00:08:24 I mean, that's... you know, what, three, four inches tall or new. That's not that big. I mean, that's- He's not done yet. No, no. Well, yeah, who knows? My dad's 5'10", I'm 6'4". I guess it's possible. Yeah, yeah. But Roshan is like 5'6".
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah, that's not possible. That's, I mean, his mom would have to be like a fucking, all of her family is 6'8". That would be the only way this would work. Yeah. Can you imagine Webster's kid is Shaq? Yeah. I mean, possible. Well, you know.
Starting point is 00:08:49 But most of the time, not likely. That would be incredible. I don't look like I came from my parents. Because my mom's 5'4". She's little. My dad's not that big. I popped out of nowhere. But this is a, I don't know about this.
Starting point is 00:09:03 I want Gary Coleman to have a son the size of Randy Moss. That'd be amazing. It's just a six-five, real live lanky guy. That'd be perfect. That'd be great. Fucking Webster, that's what you want. What the hell's his name? What's Webster's name?
Starting point is 00:09:20 Emmanuel Lewis. Emmanuel Lewis, that's right. Fucking Emmanuel Lewis. Webster is so much easier. My son's huge. Just. Yeah. That'd be weird.
Starting point is 00:09:31 Now, here's the other reason why. Because you figure, if you went to college and got a degree at a four year university, that would mean that from like 18 to 22. So he's born in 83, that would mean that from like 18 to 22. So he's born in 83. That would mean that, you know, we're talking 2005 ish he'd be graduating. Yeah, we'll say. But he seems to get arrested all through college, if that's the truth, then. Wow. We're not sure. Because in 2003 in Missouri, he is arrested for forgery. So that's another different state.
Starting point is 00:10:11 So he's supposed to make perhaps he forged and falsified documents at OSU to be to get. What if he's that? What if he like bullshitted college? Then that would be in Oklahoma. I would assume the charges in Missouri. Spring break, James, he's forging spring break. Time to cry. I don't know what he's doing there, James. He's forging spring break. Time to crime. I don't know what he's doing there. But 2004 he's arrested. This is 2003. He's arrested for it. May 27th, 2003. And he is going to plead guilty to it in June of
Starting point is 00:10:37 2004. Forgery. This all seems like it would be during his college years. You know what I mean? And he's arrested May 27th, which is like right after a school year would end for college. Yeah, that's summertime. So maybe that's how it goes. And even his court date was in the summertime. So I'm not sure how that goes.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But yeah, forgery he ends up with. So who knows? Maybe he forged his son. We're not sure. Yeah. Because we. Forged a baby. Yeah, he said, this tall kid is mine.
Starting point is 00:11:04 And they were like, no, it's not. They arrested him. I'm not sure how it goes here. But his son, possibly son, could be playing basketball in Biloxi, Mississippi. So right now. We don't know. Yeah, right now. Well, no, he would have graduated in 2019.
Starting point is 00:11:18 So he'd be, you know, 23 at this point or something. So yeah, there you go. Uh, then he got his forgery conviction then 2005 He's arrested and will plead guilty for felony obstruction of justice as well Okay, I don't know what this fucking guy is doing, but he seems to be in the mix of a lot of bullshit This is yeah, and he hasn't even started MMA yet. No, no, no, this is pre He hasn't even done a goddamn thing in sports yet. That's what the crazy part about this guy is.
Starting point is 00:11:48 There's really very little sports. And the sports that do happen, he's like Joe Sun, basically. The sports that do happen, it's like, oh, he's just got punched in the dick a lot. OK, that's all he did. That's kind of what we got here. So yeah, since 2002, he has multiple felony arrests for different things in multiple states too.
Starting point is 00:12:13 So I don't know what the hell this guy's up to. Cause I think the obstruction of justice is in Oklahoma. So in three years, that's three felonies in three different states. And he got a, he got an obstruction or some, or what was it in Illinois? That was part of his original, yeah, for theft and obstructing justice in Illinois. What the fuck? So I don't know what his story is, but we're talking three felonies in three years, and that should be his college years, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:39 This should be about when he's getting out of college. In 2006, he is sentenced in Oklahoma City Federal Court to serve, you sir, may fuck off, 10 months in prison he's gonna get for counterfeiting $100 bills in Illinois. I mean, technically I guess he's using- How good do you think you are? Well, he's using his business marketing degree here I guess. He's marketing these $100 bills as real.
Starting point is 00:13:09 I mean that's, he's using his degree, which most people don't do. So you gotta give him credit for that. Let's be honest here. Yeah, a lot of people get into this and then they sell insurance so. Yeah, so he, I mean counterfeit, you have to have an operation to counterfeit $100 bills.
Starting point is 00:13:25 You have to have a printer. You got a printing press. Yeah. You have to have inks and paper and there's a whole, this isn't like a, you don't do this at your computer and print it off on your fucking 2006 laser printer. A lot of people were using fives because they- People don't look at them. Right.
Starting point is 00:13:43 But they were turning those into the hundreds or fifties. Using the bleaching them and look at them. Right. But they were turning those into the hundreds or 50s. Yeah. Bleaching them and stripping them. Because the stripe is in there. Yeah. But it says five, so they were doing 50s. I think that's how it went. Because if you look at it and just see the word five,
Starting point is 00:13:57 and you're looking at a $50 bill, it kind of tricks your mind to see the word 50. I could see that, definitely. Yeah. But hundreds. Hundreds are the most, you look at that thing. Even nowadays when $100 isn't what it used to be 50 years ago or something. It's still the biggest bill we make.
Starting point is 00:14:14 People still take it and they immediately look in the light and they put the marker on it. I mean it's suspicious no matter what. You give a $100 bill, you feel like a criminal. Like, oh yeah, obviously I've been faking my money. I don't have any. Holding several of them feels weird. Yeah, yeah. It feels like one of these has to be fake. I don't like it. I don't like it. This can't all be real. So he serves 10 months in prison. He's serving, you know, sentenced to serve
Starting point is 00:14:40 10 months. He ends up getting out, but then he's repeatedly ordered back to prison for probation violations. Wow. Just keeps getting in trouble. This guy cannot stop getting in trouble, whether it's speeding or weed or this or that or violence, as we'll talk about. But counterfeiting is like the most diabolical shit. I mean apart from violence obviously. It's the most diabolical nonviolent thing because it fucks up so much. And you really got to plan it too. It's a thing that's like hardcore. And it used to be easier to do it back in the day. Charles Manson's guy used to be a counterfeiter. The
Starting point is 00:15:20 one dude that he brought down from San Francisco was like counterfeited amazing $20 bills and he counterfeited them all sorts of money and he made all their IDs and all that kind of shit. Really? Yeah, he was like an expert forger. So diabolical. I think he met in prison and then was hanging out with. Wow. You can ruin a small business that way.
Starting point is 00:15:38 Oh yeah, you could fuck somebody up. You can fuck somebody's whole life up. You could fuck, especially back then if you came in with a bunch of cash and bought something expensive. Putting that right into the system, you fucking asshole. Nowadays, it's really a hard thing to do and the problem also is the agency who looks into this is the Secret Service. Right, you don't wanna fuck with them.
Starting point is 00:15:59 No, they have their shit together, the secret. That's not like your local police force. They're pretty badass. Yeah, they're, if they show up at your door with the little headphones on and all that They have their shit together the secret. That's not like your local police. Yeah If they show up at your door with the little you know headphones on all that like Another year terrified. I don't know about you, but I feel like I'm getting taken to Turkmenistan and putting here for me Struck to a chair and waterboard or something. Yeah, electric in your mouth. Yeah, this isn't gonna be good Not good July 29th, 2007. He's arrested again.
Starting point is 00:16:27 What the fuck, dude? Yeah, this is 2006 is when he's sent to prison. 2007, he's already doing the same thing. And this is arrested for obtaining money or property by means of a false and bogus check. He's kiting bad checks now. So he's stopped getting- He has no money. He's just making his own money. Yeah. He's like, well, shit, they'll catch me if I make hundreds. What
Starting point is 00:16:49 if I just say this is worth a hundred and write it down and then give it to people even though it's not worth several hundreds. This is so much easier than making all this money. This is crazy. Yeah. So he's arrested for that and he is going to plead guilty to that later on, but that's not for years later. This case will be adjudicated. So we'll talk about this. He's a mess. Can we just... Truly. This dude is fucked. I mean, obviously growing up in foster care, probably not the best situation. He's, you know, comes from a bad time here. But if he had the wherewithal to go to college...
Starting point is 00:17:22 Right. Why go to college if you're just gonna do this? If you, yeah, if you have a college degree and you're doing this instead, it's completely on you at that point. Right. Once you get a college degree, and I get that, yeah, a lot of people go to college and have a hard time finding jobs and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:17:39 but you have a leg up on a lot of people. Right. Once you get a college degree your whole Childhood all that's kind of washed away at that point you've you've especially in 2003 2004 yes, I was like yeah golden age of having a fucking degree. Yeah Absolutely, it was the easy time to be an American Yeah, you could get a degree you get a decent job And that was a lot easier than it is now so and 20 20 years before that even easier. So it's easier. Right. Yeah. 20 years before that way easier. So forget it. It just keeps going back and getting harder and harder. But yeah, I feel like that washes
Starting point is 00:18:13 away your past in terms of what you should be able to accomplish. Sure. But I guess you still have whatever mental issues you might have from that. I guess you're not a different person just because you got a piece of paper that says you're you might have from that. You're not a different person just because you got a piece of paper that says you're you know about business marketing. Yeah, just because the paper says you're better than a lot of people doesn't mean that between the years you're better than a lot of people. Doesn't change very much here. So that's July 29th, 2007. He's arrested for that. Now, October 16th, 2007. Yeah, he's arrested again. This is in a traffic stop. He's stopped for not wearing a seatbelt. Oh, okay. Now, he stopped there, not wearing a seatbelt, and then he ends up
Starting point is 00:18:55 being, cop comes up, smells some weed, and says, all right, here we go, and we're going to get him out of the car. Pulled over at 10.m. Thursday I believe this is Oklahoma City it's on 15th Street about three blocks east of Broadway and the officers the problem is if you smell weed it's one thing yes because a lot you can say I smell weed and you don't smell weed I mean that's if you watch on patrol there's the one guy in South Carolina who's never pulled over a car that he doesn't smell weed. He searches, there's no weed half the time. But I've seen him pull cars over where he literally the car drove by and he said, I
Starting point is 00:19:33 smelled weed and driving by in the car. The one is the best when he had the ride along person with him and he's fucking they had their windows up and a car and they were at an intersection and a car drove by and he threw the lights on and he's like, you smell that? I smell marijuana as it went by. Your windows are up. You fucking magically can smell weed as it goes by at 40 miles an hour through closed windows. So I always have the blend door open on the AC. I want to get that outside air in here. None of this recycled bullshit. I need to smell all the weed air.
Starting point is 00:20:06 No circulating shit. I want outside air. That's one thing, but the problem here is this fucking guy, this genius, left the bag of weed just sitting on the seat. On the seat. Yeah. So the cop came in, said, what you got there? And he was like, oh, that's not great here. That's a bag of weed. And then they said, well, let's see your license. He goes, I don't have a license on me, of course.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I got some weed if you want to hang for a while. I'll roll something up. Hey, man, I'm cool. I'll share. It's all right. You got some chips in the car back there or something. We could have a party over here. Got anything to snack on?
Starting point is 00:20:47 I got no ID, but I got weed. I do have weed. So he says, well, I don't have a license, but I can tell you who I am and you can verify it. I'm D'Angelo Thompson. And here's my birth date, which isn't his birth date. So it gives a false name and birth date. So that's not going to work. No matter what your name and birthday is, if you're in possession of something, they're going to arrest either, whether they arrest
Starting point is 00:21:13 Roshan or D'Angelo for it, it's still you. You're still in jail. Somebody's still going to town and it happens to be your body. That's it. He's just trying to not trigger the, pulling him up on the system and going, oh, look at you with charges every three months Look at you. Mr. I'm on parole. Yeah exactly So during the search they found 12 more bags of weed again It's one thing if he just had his little personal stash and it's sitting on the seat and that's fine And you know they take it and what are you gonna do arrest the guy for an eighth you leave him the fuck alone
Starting point is 00:21:48 He's got two selling weed and he's got all his bags. He's moving it, yeah. And when someone's selling weed, you probably shouldn't keep a bag of it out on the passenger seat for people to see. That's when you really should hide it. There was probably someone coming to get that bag. That's true. He was selling 12 bags containing a total of about 80 grams of weed too. So that's three ounces. So that's not bad. That's three ounces.
Starting point is 00:22:10 That's several quarters. Yeah, three ounces of weed that is about. So that's a good amount of weed. It's not bad. Not a little bit. It was hidden between the sunroof and headliner. Wow. So did he put it like that little?
Starting point is 00:22:24 Oh, pulled it closed. Yep. It was popped it all up there. I'll bet. I'll bet he grabbed them all off the seat, put them all up there and didn't realize he left that one on the seat. That's possible, but that's very possible is through him and close the thing. The funny part was if a cop shine the flashlight on the sun roof, wouldn't you just see? Oh, it's all of it. And they do that. They shine lights and everything. So they probably looked up and they were like, well, we see what looks like a dozen bags of wheat up here. Is there popcorn up here?
Starting point is 00:22:52 What is that? Yeah. Oh, is that the wheat? Oh, you have snacks. Okay, good. Oh, no, that's wheat. So, yeah. That's very... It's a very ingenious plan of where to hide it. If it's tinted, you're in good shape.
Starting point is 00:23:08 It would have to be so tinted to block out flashlight. That's the problem. You're really... Reflective tinted. That's real dumb, I think. That's a dumb one. I'm going to go out on a limb. It's very funny.
Starting point is 00:23:20 It's hilarious. It's one of the dumber ways we We've had a person get caught for weed And the fun part is this is my favorite part of the whole thing the slider thing when the cop opened it 12 bags of weed just fell out which had to be hilarious Like a snake game. Yeah He's probably scared him. He's like that's all I have man. Just what's on the seat and they're like well We're gonna look around that's all I have, man, just what's on the seat. And they're like, well, we're going to look around. That's all I got. And it's like, shh, shh, shh, shh, weed everywhere. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:23:49 Four bags hit me in the head as I opened this. There's weed everywhere now. Ha, that's so funny. I hope it scared the cop like he thought bugs or spiders were falling out of the, oh, god, it's just weed. It's all right. And he said who put those up there That's not mine You framed me man. You know Rashaan said I didn't know that was there. That's not my I never opened that sunroof
Starting point is 00:24:14 I bought the car Two years opened. I've never opened it must have come with the car Holy shit You know there was a CD in there too so I'll bet that and that Mariah Carrier is. That would explain third eye blind in there. Okay now I get it. Alright. Very good. Shit that's why they charged me an extra hundred bucks for this car. Very funny. This guy is awesome. Then they search him obviously too, his person, and they find his fucking ID on him. Which is also hilarious when you're trying to hide who you are.
Starting point is 00:24:56 He clearly thought he got all that weed tucked away. He didn't know that bag was there. Why say I don't have my ID? They're going to search you when they see the weed. When you don't have an ID anyway, they're going to run your shit. You're probably going to at least get taken out of the car at that point. And then the bag of weed on your... You might have gotten away with it if there wasn't a bag of weed on your seat. That's the thing. If they could identify you as somebody, let's say you gave them a friend of yours that looks like you sort of, and they ran it.
Starting point is 00:25:25 And they're like, yeah, that's him. He's been arrested though. He knows this. He knows it. That's why. So then they found his card and they were like, so, okay, D'Angelo Thompson, this says you're Rashawn Bernard Jones.
Starting point is 00:25:39 They said, why'd you lie to us? He goes, oh, I got a bunch of warrants. That's why. They're like, oh, all right, well, that makes a lot. This whole thing. See all that weed? I got more warrants. Yeah, this is the tip of my shit iceberg right now
Starting point is 00:25:51 because I got a whole lot of warrants. More warrants than weed. Yeah, this is whole other issue here. Yeah, that's funny. Then while they were being booked, while he was being booked, this is the other dumb thing. While he's being booked, they find another bag containing weed on him
Starting point is 00:26:07 Where was it which is now a separate charge because he's trying to cause he brought it in yes when they're searching you out there They'd say do you have anything else on you or in you or anything like that? Because if you tell me now it'll be a regular charge if you tell me if they find it at the jail It's gonna be an extra charge. They're gonna charge you. Right, because then you just brought contraband inside. Exactly. So he says, you know, he said he had nothing,
Starting point is 00:26:31 but they find another. Idiot. And this was obviously his personal stash. They found like a gram and a half in a bag in his pocket. He was probably using that smoke. But still, know where all your weed is. This is the thing. When you have 14 bags
Starting point is 00:26:45 of weed, literally 12 in the sun roof, one in the seat, one in his pants, it's hard to keep track of all that weed, especially if you're like a weed smoker. That's the other thing. Especially if you're stoned, it makes it difficult. So they also found $250 on him, which anybody could have $250, but they confiscated as drug money that he sold drugs, and that's how he got it, quote unquote drugs. I learned that about the contraband thing via an Instagram clip of a man arrest. He's in the back of a cop car, and they're asking him,
Starting point is 00:27:17 and he is fucking with these cops to the end. And then at the end they go, if you tell us now, it's a normal charge, take you inside, it's another charge because you brought contraband inside. He goes. Oh, no. Will I get arrested? Was this recently? Yes. Yes. It's the guy who then had a shitload of Xanax on him when they got jail. Yes Yes, that was on on patrol. They showed that Funny thing I've ever seen Oh, no, will I get arrested?
Starting point is 00:27:46 He was like real sarcastic and a real twat. He was like an insult comic basically up there while he has zero legs to stand on. They're just arresting him. He's just fucking with them to fuck with them. Yep, and then they told him that. And again, then he got a shitload of extra. That was the guy who, then they told him that, and then he got a shitload of extra. That was the guy who, then they found out before, because he was, him and his girlfriend
Starting point is 00:28:08 were like in a bathroom, in a public bathroom, and they came in and found them shooting up. That's what the problem was. And they said they weren't, they were asleep in there. That was because they had shot up. So they nodded off. He was saying that, you know, we don't do anything, we didn't do anything. Then they found out Ten minutes before the cops got there. He posted pictures of them on social media
Starting point is 00:28:36 With his girlfriend sitting on his shoulders in the bathroom mirror while they were had meth pipes in their mouth He's of dumbest fuck ever and he's like really this is this is that guy represents a good portion of America today Yeah, does yeah confidently fucking stupid as shit Confidently confidently blowing it confidently throwing everything out the window, but but I'm right cuz I'm me and you're this Yeah, it's one of you fucking jackass if you go to the grocery store You see ten of these fucking people out there. You want to fucking clothesline them from behind. We all do. We get it. You're not a bad person for wanting that.
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Starting point is 00:31:07 Shnook is available exclusively and ad-free on Wondry+. Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple podcasts. I love that. This doesn't bother me. Okay, stupid. Yeah, his life is effectively over. He's already thrown everything away. I don't care. He's already thrown everything away. I don't care whether you're sad about it or not.
Starting point is 00:31:27 Make all the shit you want. Guess who's going home tonight and fucking cracking a beer at the end of the night and guess who's going to have their cavity searched in fucking five minutes. Guess who's about to eat terrible food in jail tonight. Yes. There's no reason to act like that. And I'm not a fucking, oh, I love the cops and whatever. If they're nice, fine.
Starting point is 00:31:46 If they're dicks, then fine. But fucking not about you. Don't be an asshole like that to people when you're wrong. You're in the wrong. Just to be a stick in the mud. Yeah. If you're in the wrong, don't be a dick. If you have nothing on you, you did nothing wrong,
Starting point is 00:32:01 and people are harassed, then you'd be like, hey, get the fuck off of me, all right? This is ridiculous. You guys are being assholes. Oh, what are you being then you could be sarcastic, but if you're in the wrong You just posted a picture of you guys smoking meth in a public fucking bathroom You got all sorts of drugs on you chill the fuck out and be cool about it trying to get away with this So Afternoon nap in a fucking, in a bathroom.
Starting point is 00:32:26 In like a park restroom, like a public park, or it was a public place of some kind, some kind of uh. Yeah, it was weird. So Rashawn, he was in the Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Oklahoma County Jail, in the Oklahoma County Jail on, uh, after this, but then a hold was placed on him by the US Marshal Service because he's on like federal fucking parole for counterfeiting money. So they're like, we'll take a chat with him too. So Rashaan is buried in just layers deep of bureaucracy and different police agencies at all. One piece of his ass.
Starting point is 00:33:02 All of this so far. I mean, you'd want to be able to dig your life out of a hole at some point. This is like a 15-year hole already. Yeah. And he's in his 20s. He's in his fucking 20s. He's not even 30 yet. And the other thing, he hasn't had one sports anything yet, by the way.
Starting point is 00:33:20 Never played a game. Have we mentioned the word sports or fight or... Unbelievable. Any of that shit? He's just an idiot with a big record. So he's charged with possession of a controlled substance, which is insane that that's a controlled substance with intent to distribute. So yes, he's charged with that. He's also charged with possession of drug paraphernalia, possession of proceeds derived from a violation of the USDS Act,
Starting point is 00:33:49 and possession with intent to distribute again on a separate charge, and the different charges there. Okay, so he's going to have to plead guilty to all these things. He pleads guilty the next month to all the weed stuff and all of everything, Because he has to. He's got, he's completely fucked here. Then he, they also found out that he had been arrested before that and it kind of slipped under the radar for selling counterfeit DVDs, driving under the influence and another charge of distribution of marijuana in another place. Oh my God. So he's even selling bootleg DVDs. Pirated, oh.
Starting point is 00:34:29 You know they had time codes on them or like a guy getting up and walking in front of the camera, one of those. Yeah, some really low budget pirated shit. Of 2007, so it's like Borat in the Simpsons movie. That's what he's pirating. The tail end of anything piratable. Yeah, yeah, that was when, yeah, you get it digitally.
Starting point is 00:34:50 The first Transformers. Yeah. That was when people would still film it in the theater, and that was a pirate before they could get digital pirates, which obviously is a little more relevant now. So May 29, 2010. I'm assuming he did some time for all of this. Sounds like it. Yeah. So, cause he has no more interactions with police until 2010. So you can, you can, you can tell if he's out and about by if he's arrested or
Starting point is 00:35:18 not. Cause otherwise you can assume he's in jail because he's doing something here. Yeah. So May 29th, 2010, he is arrested for exceeding the posted speed limit by more than 20 miles an hour. So reckless driving essentially reckless. Yeah. Yep. Um, also operating a vehicle on a highway without a license. Second offense, 20 over with no license, no license, 20 over. It's cool. I'm good. Um, guess what? He's going to plead to these, not guilty, no over. It's cool. I'm good. Guess what he's going to plead to these. Not guilty? No guilty. He's guilty. He knows just to plead guilty because what else are you going to do? I'm not going to fight it. What am I going to do? They're going to give me a worse sentence.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I definitely was driving and I certainly don't have a license. It's hard to dispute those facts. The speed one, because of the reckless driving and because of his record, his court fines for this were $17,750. He was fined for that. Oh my God. I don't know what the fuck else he had if he had 100 tickets on back log or whatever, but $17,000. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:22 That's steep. And then another $2,250 for operating a vehicle on a highway without a license. So 20 grand. $20,000. Yeah. He's fine. $20,000. How's he supposed to dig out of that?
Starting point is 00:36:35 I have no goddamn idea. Maybe that's in lieu of prison. Is there interest if you don't pay at all? Because if so, that's worse than a credit card, right? Yeah. At that point, you're into like a mob boss. You're fucking you're paying the VIG every week. You're like what do I got? I thought I took it at two points you're telling me two and a half? Jesus Christ what the fuck am I? Jesus Christ this is crazy. How many points can I pay? So he's some he's out of jail here by June 11th, 2011.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And I only know that because that is his first MMA fight. Really? So he decides what career can a man have. I have a college degree, so that's a leg up. But I also have just an extensive arrest record that is being picked. I mean, anything he's gonna go do for a position of employment
Starting point is 00:37:32 With his degree is going to do a background check and they're going to see that whatever he's going to be employed for is He's gonna ruin that he's gonna steal from us unless you do marketing for like a vape company or something Yeah, they're gonna do a background check on you that I assume that he's gonna he's gonna rob us a vape company I would assume they want you to have a criminal record. That's the only probably. Yeah, like you need to relate to our yeah, our shit culture that's sucking on these things. Yeah. So he's June, it's June 11 2011. He fights Houston stout. Houston stout's a two and one fighter coming into this fight finishes his career five and four four so not exactly an illustrious career But at the same time more wins and losses Above 500 which is more than we can say for our fighting records of professional career fights. This is with big dog promotions
Starting point is 00:38:19 Brick town brawl six is the event and The company start a fucking... That's what I was thinking. He, fat husky guy clothes? Yeah, unless this is like a really like an underground thing. Otherwise I would imagine you can't just name your shit Big Dogs. You can't just name yourself Big Dogs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:36 These guys are pretty famous. I bet it was them. I bet it was them. Had to be, right? Like, yeah, let's just sponsor it. It could just be a sponsored thing. I don't know. But this fight goes into the second round and it is stopped Or there's a submission at 36 seconds with punches. So Roshan wins it
Starting point is 00:38:53 He punches Houston stout into submission great. So he's one to know You would think with all of his jail time and extensive crime. He'd be good at fighting by now, I would hope. Probably, yeah. He's not even fighting the case, but... No, no, he just bleeds guilty to everything. Fuck it. At least he knows when he's caught. He's been, yeah. The judges submit him constantly. On the side of the road, he'll try to get out of it, but once he's in court, he's like, look, I got a lot stacked against me. I'm gonna tap out.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Yeah. So July 9th, less than a month later, he fights his second MMA fight against Javier ObrejĆ³n, who's an 0-1 fighter coming into this fight. Okay. But he's a 14 and 17 career fighter. So he ended up, you know, that's 31 fights. It's not bad. Figuring it out. Yeah. This is at CS, I'm sorry, SCS 6, Sugar Creek Showdown 6. Sugar Creek. Which sounds like it takes place just next to a creek while people throw beer cans at them, doesn't it? Yeah, while people, it's lit by people in their Bic lighters.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah. They go meet by the creek around 8, and that's Sugar Creek Showdown. Six, they've had five previous Sugar Creek Showdowns. By the way, the last one he was in was Brick Town Brawl Six. So he pops up in sixes for these promotions. This one, a fight only goes two minutes and 52 seconds into the first round before it is a TKO, it's waved off with Roshan getting beaten up with punches and losing.
Starting point is 00:40:28 And now he knows what it's like. Now he knows what it's like here. Which is interesting of what happens exactly a month later is very interesting after this. So he's beaten unmercifully till the referee has to stop a man from beating him. Any further, yeah. That's one and one now, his record.
Starting point is 00:40:45 So a month later, August 11th, 2011, he does some beating of his own. And that is he's gonna be arrested and charged with assault and battery, domestic abuse committed against a pregnant woman. Why? He beat up a fucking his pregnant girlfriend. Why? I don't know. He's angry. He got beat up the month before. That's what I mean. He's like, I got beat up. Now you're
Starting point is 00:41:10 going to feel what it costs to how I put food on the table. Like he's a fucking asshole. Oh, he punched a... I don't know why you'd ever punch a pregnant lady. I can't imagine. That would take a lot. I can't unless she's got a gun on me. All right. I don't know. Yeah like It's not my baby mom. Yeah. Yeah, I don't give a fuck about that kid. What's up? I'll kick you right in its soft spot. Bring it on bitch. That's a different story If you don't know the lazy because pregnant women are always starting fist fights and like long places like that Just certainly starting arguments. Oh, everywhere. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:46 No. So he does. This is that's a crazy fucking charge, man. This is unbelievable. It's in Oklahoma and not good at all here. This charge later on will be dismissed. So usually do that. Usually when there's a dismissal, it's because the other party will not testify against him
Starting point is 00:42:05 and then they really don't have a whole lot at that point. They have her statements which then she'll refute. So what are you going to do? So that takes, it's two more years before he fights. He fought in June of 2011 or July of 2011. Then he has all this going on. I'm pretty sure he's in jail the whole time till court. Got to be, right?
Starting point is 00:42:25 Because he fights less than, he fights about two weeks after the court date. After the charges of drop? Yeah. Yeah. So he was in jail that whole time. June 7th, 2013, he fights David the Boss, Boss Nick. Nice word, sir. The boss, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:43 He's 1-0 coming into this fight, so it's going well. He's one and oh, coming into this fight. So yeah, it's going well boss. 12 and seven for his career. So that's pretty good. I mean, there's, there's at least seven other that are better than a bossy. Yeah. Oh shit. We have Boston around a bit. Yeah. This is at C three fights is the name of the promotion. And it said fighting for and then in quotes, more M O O R E than money. Fighting for more than money. Yeah. Cause more Chrysler Buick is sponsoring this. I think it is.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Yeah. Big dogs pulled out. Big dogs said that we can't have our name on this. These pregnant wife eaters in our promotion. And somehow they got GM and Chrysler in the same dealership. What a great promotion. This must be C3 fights. They're like, when were you out of jail for punching a pregnant woman?
Starting point is 00:43:31 What was that? Two weeks ago? By all means. Please do. Please fill out this fucking W2. Thank you. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:40 This fight goes all the way into the third round, 24 seconds into the third round where it is stopped, it is waved off as Boss Nick apparently bossed around Rashaun Jones with punches and it's a TKO. So Rashaun is now one and two. He got punched. So he punched the shit out of somebody in one fight and now since then he's gotten the shit punched out of him twice.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yes and he also punched a pregnant woman, so we can assume he won that fight. Yeah, probably. So he's one and two in official MMA action. I'm going to say two and two though in reality, let's say. Pretty sure he probably beat the pregnant woman. Not in a good way, but still. So 2013 here also, right after that happens apparently,
Starting point is 00:44:26 looks like within days of this, he is arrested again. And this is for domestic abuse, assault, and battery. What does he, why? He gets beat up and gets mad. Frustrated, yeah. And goes and beats his wife up, or his girlfriend up, or somebody up. I mean, I don't know the situation, but.
Starting point is 00:44:44 A gal of some sort, yeah. Seems that way, I don't know the situation, but... A gal of some sort, yeah. Seems that way. I don't know. He's also arrested for interference with an emergency telephone call. Oh, took the phone away. She tried to call 911. He said, not so fast, bitch, which is not okay. That's illegal, yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Also another case of domestic abuse, another charge of domestic abuse, assault and battery, and that's Abdom. What is that, ABDOM? Is that a domicile residing in the same place, somebody who lives with you type of thing? I don't know what that is, but either way, shitloads, a lot of arrests here. Abduction domination, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah, I'm not sure, is that a sexual thing? Maybe. BDSM ABDOM, I'm into BDSM, ABDOM, you know how it is. Is it abduction of a domestic partner? That's possible, yeah, assault and battery, but do you think that would be a separate charge? I'll bet it's assault and battery of domestic. Of AB domestic, yeah, assault and battery,
Starting point is 00:45:38 but the other charge is just domestic abuse, assault and battery, and then there's a separate charge of ABDOM, domestic abuse, assault and battery. So I don't know, there are two separate charges, I don't understand, then there's a separate charge of abdomn domestic abuse assault and battery. So I don't know, there's two separate charges. I don't understand. Maybe there's someone else there. Maybe he did it twice.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Maybe he did it a left and a right and he caught one for each. Maybe I'll punch you and your mama. I don't know how it is. Did he punch the baby? I say, God, I hope not. The kid's a month old. If at most he's a month, that'd be horrible. Jesus, is he that much
Starting point is 00:46:05 of a monster just punching fucking infants? I wouldn't put it past him. He's done everything else. What's the difference? Fuck you, baby. How dare you say my hundreds aren't real. My name's D'Angelo. Don't look in the sun roof. All right. So August of 2013, I suppose while he's in jail for that, might as well try him on his other thing and he is, I guess, convicted now of misdemeanor bogus check charges from 2007. This is when they're finally charged. Remember those?
Starting point is 00:46:38 July 29, 2007, I think. So that's when they finally get dealt with here. He is convicted in 2014 of counts of domestic assault and battery and interference with an emergency telephone call. Here we go, yeah. He is ordered back to federal prison again, because this is also a probation violation. Oh, by the way, this isn't the only probation violations.
Starting point is 00:47:04 He also failed drug tests for using cocaine as well. Oh, he likes coke too? Jesus Christ! He likes whatever he can get his hands on. Think about all he's doing. You can't do all that sober. You need a cure for that shit. Cocaine is perfect.
Starting point is 00:47:17 But the acceleration, he's gone from... He's committed every crime there is. Oh, he's really getting a rainbow. It's a full house really. Where's the rape and murder man? You're doing everything. Well hang on. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:47:30 It's not over yet. Jesus Christ. He just escalates this man. Yeah. Small to large and it's gonna, he's gonna get real large here pretty soon. He had the fucking, the mozzarella sticks, he had the poppers.
Starting point is 00:47:44 He's got it all. He's into the meal now. He's got everything, he's already had the calamari. He's got the whole big plate of spaghetti. Yeah, he's ready to go, he's got a veal parm in front of him, let's get it on. So in addition to the cocaine use, the test came back positive for cocaine, they went to his house to arrest him,
Starting point is 00:48:03 he also had a shotgun at his house, which he's absolutely not allowed to have at this point. Yeah, that's the bread and the... And they found more illegal DVDs in there as well. So he's got a lot of problems here. A federal judge said that Jones, quote, has been engaged in the production of large quantities of illegal DVDs and CDs And had been selling them for one dollar to two dollars and fifty cents That's his big scam. In 2000 when? 13-2007 to 2013. He's selling DVDs for two bucks. Well, that's the all you could sell them for by then
Starting point is 00:48:41 By time streaming put two bucks you're like nah for two bucks bucks Yeah, what the fuck but not if it's a bootleg He's what is the what's the end all of this? How many do you have to sell to make a living? Oh god thousands thousands and thousands of dollars to pay your rent and car payments And I mean just to pay the mortgage you've got to say you got to sell to two thousand of those every yeah Does beating pregnant women count? Does he get paid for that? Holy shit. Is someone paying to watch that?
Starting point is 00:49:10 Is that how he's making a living? Because I don't understand it. That's how you use your marketing degree. Oklahoma State University should be disgusted with this man. So March 27, 2015. He's out of jail at this point. I know this because he fights a fight. That's how I know he's out of jail at this point. I know this because he fights a fight. That's how I know he's out of jail.
Starting point is 00:49:29 So there's MMA groups that are just waiting for this man to be released from prison so he can go fight quick. This is Richard Richie Bowen. Make sure, just call yourself Richie Bowen. You don't have to call yourself Richard. You don't gotta tell us that your name's Richard. We know. We get it. We already knew.
Starting point is 00:49:46 We knew. He's one and one coming in. Three and one career fighter. So obviously he wins this fight, does Richie Bowen. And this is at HD Boxing Rampage at Remington. I don't know what the fuck that is, but this is a first round submission loss for Roshan at three minutes and 29 seconds.
Starting point is 00:50:06 So Roshan is now one and three. Wow. Not great. No. He's got a worse record in MMA than court cases, I think. He's not doing well. Terrible. Not doing well. Absolutely terrible. September 12th, 2015, so a few months later,
Starting point is 00:50:20 he fights Austin Reed Ward is his name. Reed Ward. Yeah. Known as Prest Ward is his name. Reed Ward. Yeah. Known as Preston is his nickname. So I don't know, he wants the most normal names possible. Austin Preston Reed Ward. Okay. Which just sounds like a nickname
Starting point is 00:50:36 for a prep school student is what it sounds like. You know Preston Reed Ward, right? Just wanna be dorkier. Oh God, it just sounds like his father sits on the board of something You know what I mean? I just need to be I just need everybody to know How white I am yes, I need to use my mother's maiden name in my name Which was like that's old school like old money shit You know if you ever watch Mad Men and when when Pete introduces himself as Peter Dyckman candle Campbell
Starting point is 00:51:03 That means he really wants to impress you that his mother's part of that family. Needs you to know that the Dykman clan is prevalent here as well. Yes, we used to own all of New York City, so that was 200 years ago, we were hot shit. This guy, it's his MMA debut for old Austin Preston Reed Ward.
Starting point is 00:51:21 He'll turn out to be a five and seven career fighter, so he'll fight a few fights. This, this is at RCWC fall brawl and goes into the third round at three 45 in the third round. So that's a really getting into the fight. It's a TKO with punches. It's the fight has stopped and Roshan finally wins one. This is his first win since his pregnant domestic partner. Since he fought his pregnant domestic. Yeah. Since he fucking punched her into submission. The wait is over.
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Starting point is 00:54:42 Alex Ryder, new episodes now streaming on Amazon Freevy. So he's two and three now. So that was, what is that, September 12, 2015. What is this, November 13, 2015. He is going to be arrested here. I don't know how he got arrested. He was pulled over for not wearing a seatbelt. Put your seatbelt on. That's how you got pulled over for the weed that time.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Right. Seatbelt. I think he'd wear the seatbelt. Somehow they take him in. I don't know if he's because of his record or he's got a, you know, if you see this guy, grab him and just encase him or what, but somehow he's arrested, but he's out by November 20th. We know that. So he's out within a week and he's fighting Clayton. My as his name, MAI like Clayton, my known as my tie, like a my tie, the Python. Yeah. Yeah. The Python, the Python. He is seven and one, you know, he's got to be all submission shit. He'll wrap you all up and squeeze you.
Starting point is 00:55:43 You know what I mean? You wouldn't expect punches to come from the Python. They don't have arms at all. He's spelled P-A-I. The Python. He is seven and one coming into this fight. And eight and three career. So, decent fighter. This is Bellator 146.
Starting point is 00:56:02 So Bellator's fighting in Bellator. Bellator's a fucking big company. That's real, yeah. This guy has just gotten arrested last week and has been in and out of prison constantly and they're like, we need to hire him. There's a group that doesn't do a background check. Nope.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And they're two and, he's only a two and three fighter. He's not even a good fighter. Right. So it makes no sense. Either they don't do a background check or they don't give a fuck about your background in that check. Oh, they don't care. They're like, oh, I think beating of a domestic partner is considered a positive in that company.
Starting point is 00:56:32 All of it is probably. Yeah, in my opinion. I don't know. Oh, he beat up a pregnant lady? Oh, fuck. He's going to relate to our crowd perfectly. He's still in three, but his wife's got black eyes, you guys. Do me a favor. They tell the ringer now, when you announce it, make sure to put that in there. You know. Shoot.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Say that. In this corner. He's been arrested for beating up his pregnant domestic partner. Russia, jelly. Fucking pirated merch being sold in the parking lots. People tried to get a pirated copy of parenthood sign. Come on man, sign it for me bro. You made this bro. Steve Martin was supposed to be like 36 in that movie.
Starting point is 00:57:24 That's hilarious. Yeah. Well he was supposed to be like 36 in that movie. That's hilarious. Yeah. Well, he was only like 42, I think. So that's the other thing. That was even funnier. Yeah, because the kid in the beginning is like, I'm 36. They're like, you're about to sell me that that man's 36 years old. But he did look exactly like that when he was 36.
Starting point is 00:57:41 That's the thing. He looked exactly like that when he was 24. That's the problem. Yeah. That's the problem, yeah. That's the way to do it in showbiz. You don't want to, if people age in front of people, oh look at that person. Just be George Burns when you're 19. Look 100 as early as possible and people will be like, wow he still looks the same 20 years
Starting point is 00:57:56 from now. The guy doesn't age. People go, remarkable, man look at that. Paul Rudd's doing it wrong because it's going to go wrong for him one day. It's gotta, it's gotta. You can't stay youthful forever, that won't work. That won't work. You end up like DiCaprio and you just get a fat face.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Yeah, eee, shit, that's not good at all. You just get a weird fat baby face, which is strange. It's going so weird for him. Yeah, well I heard he's got like the biggest cock in the world, so I think he'll. Is that right? Between having the biggest cock on earth world. So I think he'll- Is that right? Between being that having the biggest cock on earth and like having hundreds of millions of dollars
Starting point is 00:58:28 and being an international movie star, something tells me he'll pull through. I don't know what it is. Where did you hear that? It's multiple places. Really? The one book I read, the chick that said she burned down Kevin Costner's bedroom,
Starting point is 00:58:42 remember that chick? She went out with all those people. She said that his dick was fighting. Oh my God. She said his, and she fucked everybody, like every rock star, she said his penis is actually terrifying, like she was scared of it. What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:58:54 Like the lady with Leon Spinks, like that sort of thing. Like oh God, Jesus, is it gonna talk to me? Now there's three people in the room. Yeah, it's not fair for a guy like that to have a midget penis. That's not fair. And I don't mean a midget. I'm talking it's the size of a midget. A penis the size of a midget.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Of a small man. Yeah. Not fair. What the fuck? Yep, yep, yep. Maybe that's why he's feeding it to 19-year-olds, because they're the only ones with the elasticity that can handle it.
Starting point is 00:59:25 No, no, I think you gotta get yourself. I'd imagine you gotta be like, you gotta find somebody who's really been around a few times here. You might be right. A 19 year old, you're gonna scare her into, scare her away from this. She's gonna join a convent when you're done with her.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Jesus Christ. Maybe somebody with no elasticity is the answer there. You're probably right. Yeah, you need like Mama Dugger or whatever. What's her name? Somebody has to like stuff a uterus back in there before he gets started. It's been dragging behind her.
Starting point is 00:59:58 He put a car in reverse and put it in drive, put it in... That's how you fuck her. That's how it goes. Go back and forth from drive to reverse with a 67 Bonneville. And in the middle of it, a kid just comes out once in a while. You never know, just walks on out of there. You're like, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:00:18 It walks out like kicking a soccer ball. You're like, what's going on in here? What's happening in this giant vagina? Fucking vomit-tucker with the pot of hell. Oh, Christ. That's ridiculous. So back to Bellator 146 there. Yeah, Bellator.
Starting point is 01:00:40 It's a legit company. This is Kato versus Manhoff is the main event. Kato's a good fighter. I don't know who he is, but I'm sure he is. Now this is from November 20th, 2015. This only goes 225 into the first round before his submission from a guillotine happens, and it is a loss for Roshan.
Starting point is 01:01:02 So Roshan is not- Roshan got guillotined. He got guillotined, He's now two and four. The Python lived up to his name. Yeah. He did. Python, Python. My Thai Python. Now March 12th, 2016, he fights Travis the Reaper Quintero. Yeah. The Reaper. This is his debut fight. I don't know if this is current or if he's done fighting or what, but he's 7-0 career, this guy. Shit!
Starting point is 01:01:29 So we know what happens. This is at FCF, which is Freestyle Cage Fighting, 51. Round 2, 3 minutes and 52 seconds into the fight. It's a TKO with punches. So the ref came in and stopped this one, and he's two and five now, Rashaan. Not doing too well here, I would say. Next up, these names are getting progressively weirder by the way for these nicknames for fighters. Started out with Preston, which is as normal as you get. Then it went to the Python. Then the Reaper. Now he fights Jacob Akin, the
Starting point is 01:02:02 Rosedale Strangler Holy fuck which sounds like somebody we cover on small town murder. He's known as the Rosedale Strangler He feels like someone the police are after yeah He's from Kansas City is why that's guy Yeah, Rosedale Strangler who is seven and seven coming into this fight ten and eleven for his career This is conquest promotions Oh town Throwdown at the U. O Town Throwdown at the U. Maybe Omaha, Oklahoma City. Oklahoma City, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:35 One of those two. O Town Throwdown at the U. This fight against Jacob the Rossdale Strangler, Rosedale Strangler Aiken, only goes 45 seconds. Really? It is a arm bar submission for the Rosedale Strangler. So he strangles Roshan into submission. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Roshan is now two and six. He is not good at all. Nothing in his life is working. At all, nothing. This isn't working, being out of jail isn't working yeah he's a better counterfeiter you might as well he did he probably made better money at that yeah now november 5th 2016 now this few months later he fights jeremiah castillo nickname paco so old paco here he is nine and 27 coming into this fight he's worse worse at this. Yeah, I was gonna say
Starting point is 01:03:26 does Roshan see his future here in this man? Paco, you stink at this man. Cauliflower ears and permanently blackened eyes. 27 losses? Shit, well that's not his career. He'll end up 11 and 33. Jesus fuck Paco. He wins one out of every four four Yeah, 25 percent on this and he kept that going nine and 27. That's exactly that and then 11 and 33 That's he's just her consistency. Yes, one out of four, baby. I'll win him you consistently stink Paco Suck Paco, but Paco is fighting a two and six fighter here, so he might have a shot. This is at Rines Karate, R-I-N-E, Rines Karate, battle on Boot Hill, this is. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:15 Okay. Only last two minutes and 18 seconds, not much of a battle. Oh, it's real quick, yeah. I think the original battle of Boot Hill lasted a little longer than that. I mean, that's just the cemetery, right? For real? Yeah, yeah,'s just the cemetery, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, the cemetery. There's probably a battle there.
Starting point is 01:04:28 We'll call it a battle, I don't know. That's how people... They probably just kick, yeah, they just kick dirt over them. What are we doing here? Why are we moving these people? We're in a field. Let's just leave it here.
Starting point is 01:04:37 And let's just make this the cemetery. What are we doing? Put a cross... Let's make this the cemetery from now on. Give me a shitload of crosses and a sign. Let's go. That's a cemetery now. Somebody start writing fun poems.
Starting point is 01:04:48 We'll write them on these. Let's do it. Come on. Real like folksy shit from the 1700s. You know what I mean? Make it funny about why this guy's dead. Yeah. How it has to do with liquor and women and gunshots.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Things like that. Stray gunfire and things. Got any gambling jokes? Yeah. Sexually transmitted diseases, let's do those. Any jokes about gambling or the Germans? Anything like that? Or rocks that are coming out of his penis?
Starting point is 01:05:21 Oh, man. So Paco, Battle of Boothill, two minutes and 18 seconds this fight lasts. Fast! Before a submission happens due to an arm bar and now Roshan is two and seven. Oh no, Paco beat him? Paco beats him too. He's two and seven and this will end his storied and illustrious career as an MMA fighter. I mean, it's probably a good choice.
Starting point is 01:05:46 That's all the sports here, folks. That's it. That's the best choice he's made so far is quitting this. So that's November 5th, 2016. Now he may have fought more, because at this point he was fighting every few months. He won't have the chance though to fight anymore because he's got a lot of other problems that he's going to be very busy with including a homicide investigation. What year is this?
Starting point is 01:06:09 2017. He may as well. He's committed every single crime. He's climbing the ladder, Jimmy, the corporate ladder. November 5th, 2016 was his fight. January 23rd, 2017, Dell City, which is Oklahoma, police investigating double homicide inside a laundromat. Two. Two.
Starting point is 01:06:30 They're investigating two people were found shot inside the laundry station at 4000 Southeast 15th Street. And it was a man and a woman. The woman was the manager of the laundromat and the man was a customer of the laundromat. Dude, if you're okay okay, I've been, and I'm gonna say this because I've been here, unless you live in like a very crammed city, which then it's a lot of people don't have washers
Starting point is 01:06:54 and dryers, they go to the laundromat. Going to the laundromat is not a good thing. No. It's a sign of this isn't going well because at every time I've had to go to laundromats, it's because I'm in a situation that is not wonderful and I don't have my own washer and dryer. It's not on purpose. You gotta aspire to have one of those in your domicile.
Starting point is 01:07:13 Oh, I couldn't wait. When we first started this and I had to go to the laundromat all the time, I moved into a house with a washer and dryer. I was like, this is making it. This is the pinnacle of success. They said if you work hard good things happen, and I'm watching my clothes spin right now without Smelling other people this is fantastic We're waiting waiting along so that nobody steals the quarters
Starting point is 01:07:36 I leave for my next load of laundry or steals my first load of laundry All of the clothes if you can fucking smell people over a dozen dryers with fabric softener going around emitting good smelling air, it's smelly in there. Work harder. Get out of there. So the poor bastard who was at the store, that's the guy I feel the worst for because his life wasn't going great anyway. He's doing his fucking laundry and his laundromat going, this is miserable.
Starting point is 01:08:05 And then he gets murdered, which even sucks even more. Unbelievable. So the store manager who was killed, her name is Nikiya Jackson. And so a bunch of her family members gathered around the laundry station as police. Like the police are investigating. Her family all showed up like, hey, what's
Starting point is 01:08:23 going on with my girl here? And this is from her dad Horace Jackson. He said she's a mom and she just turned to grandma. Oh, that's brutal. And I'm her. I'm a great grandfather and she was so passionate for the kids. She was the day manager at the laundry station. She'd been working there a couple years. She opened up the store early in the mornings and her dad always said that he worried about her doing that because in the winter it's dark out and shit. You don't know who's lurking. He said it was always uneasy with her because she opens and it would be dark and it would
Starting point is 01:09:02 be like six and she was punctual and she had a couple of times she would come to work and stuff would be broken and windows cracked and they don't keep money in here. It's a fucking laundromat. Yeah you've never seen a coin-op laundromat in a very nice neighborhood. No. It's always in the... Yeah. Right because they have they have those at their house. They have washers and dryers there. Yeah that's what happens. Yeah it's always in a terrible neighborhood where crime happens. Yeah, and they don't keep large amounts
Starting point is 01:09:29 of fucking money there. No, it's quarters. The cash that's taken is taken into a machine. So it's like it goes in, you never go, that's where all the big dollar, that's where all the big bills are in there. That's Fort Knox, right? It's all singles too, a five.
Starting point is 01:09:44 The coin op. If people are going crazy, it's a coin op big bills are in there. That's Fort Knox right there. It's all singles too. The coin-off. A five if people are going crazy. It's a coin-off. What are we doing? So that's bad. The police believe robbery is the motive here. Oh wow. Robbing a fucking law. I mean it's a soft target.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yeah, you don't expect someone to whip a shotgun out from under the counter, but at the same time there's nothing there. That's why. Right. Risk reward. It's low risk because there's low reward. Yeah, what are you going to run out with your pants falling down from quarters? Wait, give me all your quarters. Yeah, gonna be easy to catch the guy, just wait for all the rolls of quarters at the
Starting point is 01:10:15 grocery store. Jesus, the store manager was being robbed at gunpoint and the customer tried to help her. Oh no. So this guy was as good a Samaritan as this guy, rather than just be like, fuck this and leaving, I don't give a fuck, I'll call the cops from out there, he tried to help this woman and was shot for it.
Starting point is 01:10:35 So they said an altercation occurred inside the drop office there. The customer that was inside attempted to assist her to help her out and both of them were shot in the process. Another customer that was inside attempted to assist her to help her out and both of them were shot in the process. Another customer walked in minutes later and saw found the two bodies. That's how police were notified. They were lucky that you showed up when you did because a we get to find the bodies but be you're still alive. If you'd have shown up five minutes earlier, maybe you're not here. Yeah, you'd be fucking dead to this
Starting point is 01:11:04 guy looks like he was shooting whoever was around. So this is the other part that's really stupid about doing this in a business in 2017. There's cameras everywhere. Oh boy. Even at a laundromat, there's cameras everywhere. Cameras, cameras, cameras, cameras. Mostly at a laundromat.
Starting point is 01:11:22 Yeah, which is, that'd be the most boring surveillance footage to watch as people sitting there staring at their phones while shit spins Reading yeah reading news or playing an app or whatever the fuck People are in like a state of suspended animation at the laundromat like yeah It looks like the footage from from the bus and speed It's like when a lizard gets too cold. Yeah. And they're like, no, he's still alive. You just got to warm him up.
Starting point is 01:11:50 And then he starts moving again. That's what happens in a laundromat. You're a lizard person. Fucking weird. So the police said surveillance from inside the business shows a very violent scene. They said, quote, this is from the police. There is surveillance video available. It's violent. It was pretty brutal. Anybody that would go kill somebody over laundry change. Wow, dude. What's the
Starting point is 01:12:15 world coming to man? That's what her dad said. Wow, dude. What's the world coming to man? Which is yeah. I mean, he killed my daughter over laundromat change, what the fuck, bro? What are you doing? Her friends and family said she had no enemies, this isn't like a beef that was getting, you know, fucking ironed out here. He said she's always very nice to everybody, she was just trying to make a living for her family
Starting point is 01:12:38 by showing up at a laundromat at 6 a.m. every day. This is a hard working person, I wouldn't do that. No! You showing up at a fucking laundromat at 6 a.m.? 6 a.m. every day. This is a hard workin' person. I wouldn't do that. You showin' up at a fuckin' laundromat at 6 a.m.? 6 a.m., no. Things, yeah, that's, wow, that's pretty impressive. So, here's Horace again. They just wanted to hurt my baby because for some little laundry change.
Starting point is 01:12:57 That's not worth it to take my baby's life. No. If you steal from a laundromat and don't hurt anybody, you're still some of the scummest of the earth. You're still, you're trash if you steal from a laundromat and don't hurt anybody, you're still some of the scum of the earth. You're trash if you steal from a laundromat. But if you're willing to kill over it? And murdering over it?
Starting point is 01:13:14 Way worse. Killing someone's grandma. Yikes. That's fucked up, man. And then the second victim is a 60-year-old man. Oh, for heaven's sake. He shot a... What the fuck fuck bro?
Starting point is 01:13:26 What's he gonna do? A 60 year old man named Russ Roberts. Yeah, you're a fucking MMA fighter who's what? 30, not even 35 year old MMA fighter. What are you afraid that this guy's gonna submit you to a rear naked choke? Knock the guy, punch him, knock him down, kick him, who cares? Chances are pretty good that he could probably take him. That's what I was going to say, the records show.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Not bad. So, old Russ Roberts here was 60 years old and a friend of his said he was just a super nice guy. He lived, that's the woman who works, who manages the apartment complex where he has lived. They said you could count on him always. Down in building four, he would always keep an eye out. His neighborhood watch over there. Maybe he shouldn't, you know what? Also, maybe he got a little too into minding other people's
Starting point is 01:14:14 businesses is the other thing. If you do the watch, you're always looking out and you're going to try and interfere here. This is why I signed up. You're not a cop and you're not Superman. So when a 35 year old guy with a gun is trying to rob a place, let him rob the laundry change. Maybe just say, don't hurt the girl. Take the money and don't hurt the girl. Yeah. Don't hurt her.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Just take the money. Maybe throw a couple bucks in there to sweeten the pot. I don't know. I've got a wallet. Yeah. Here, take mine. So I guess Roberts was there to begin with when Rashawn came in with the gun. So that's another dumb thing. I would wait until there's nobody else in there if I was going to begin with when Rashawn came in with the gun. So that's another dumb thing.
Starting point is 01:14:45 I would wait until there's nobody else in there. If I was going to rob a place, I wouldn't say, well, there's a guy in there, but fuck it. Like Rashawn so lazy, he couldn't even show up at six. Yeah. Is there six twenty? Lazy fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Jesus Christ, man. They said he got into an altercation with Nikia Jackson. She wasn't going easy. I guess. She just got going easy, I guess, Nikia. She just got the fucking gun off of me. That's when Robert stepped in to help. And yeah, that's what happened. The apartment manager said, I said,
Starting point is 01:15:14 that would be just like him to jump in and try to help, because he was just that type of man. It's a great loss for society. Really, he was a great, a society? Not just the apartment complex or our friends or our, me and you too. All of, yeah, we're all, are you sitting out there listening, driving to work right now?
Starting point is 01:15:32 I miss him. You miss him and you don't even know it yet. He will be missed, I will miss him for sure. So January 25th, 2017 is when they released the 911 call. And that the person, you know, it stumbled upon this at the laundry station. They said, quote, it looks like a robbery, two victims on the floor, I just walked in.
Starting point is 01:15:55 When they got there. I didn't do it though, yeah. I just walked in. I swear I just found him. I, shit, I mean, yeah, luckily for him there's cameras, because that would be, otherwise I'd walk in and see that, and be like, I'm going to turn right back around and leave. We're using my sleeve to open the door, and I was never here. That's the other thing, too.
Starting point is 01:16:13 Now you can't walk away from things, because there's so many cameras. Oh, yeah, they'll see you doing that. You can't commit them, and if you see them, you better not walk away. No, especially if there's people, actually these people, they could have been dying on the floor, you'd call 911 at that point, I guess.
Starting point is 01:16:28 So unless, you know, people, if you come across a decomposing body that's been there for a month. You could probably walk away from that. You could probably walk away from it. There's people looking for them, I'm sure, and all that kind of thing, but this is like, maybe medical assistance could be administered.
Starting point is 01:16:42 If you find a decomposing body, there's no cameras on you. Because they would have found it. That's why it's there. They would have seen it already. You know you're alone. So either walk away or do some weird necrophilia or whatever you're into. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Walk away is what I'm saying. Don't do that. Probably walk away, yeah. So yeah, that's rough, man. So they keep talking about, her father keeps talking about how, why would someone do this for this kind of money? Why would someone do this for no money?
Starting point is 01:17:11 I don't understand it. There's not thousands of dollars in there. It's not like, oh, on Mondays they do the big drop. It's a bunch of singles. So finally, January 27th, police announced that they do have a person in custody for this murder. Oh.
Starting point is 01:17:29 Here, they have a person in custody and yeah, Horace Jackson, the dad said, at least I know he's in custody, but she'll never be replaced. I just grieve for my family, kids and grandkids. They're suffering behind this. We've got to go and grow up real fast and deal with this grief. Yeah. So that's fucking horrible. But they arrest Roshan for it anyway. It's Roshan. Yeah, they arrest him. And they're just saying that they arrested him on this Friday. I think it happened on a Monday. So it took a few days. How did they get him? Did they know who... Was he wearing a mask? Was he just?
Starting point is 01:18:06 I assume he doesn't seem very bright. I'm going to we'll get into it. But yeah, I'm going to say the surveillance really helped out a lot here. So they arrested him. He's charged with two counts of first degree murder. Wow. The US Marshals who still keep an eye on him because of all his bullshit. And the Midwest police performed surveillance on his apartment and then finally pulled him
Starting point is 01:18:28 over for a traffic stop at 2.50 p.m. and this is the marshals and the detectives and the Midwest City Police Department and they arrest him there. He's taken into custody without incident because it sounds like three different agencies all probably had a, they did a felony stop on him. That's with assault rifles pointed and guys had, you know, he didn't, they didn't walk up to his car and said, this isn't license or registration. This is get out and walk backwards to the sound of my voice
Starting point is 01:18:54 with your hands over your fucking head. Pulling your shirt up so he still didn't have any weapons. Keep your hands where I can see them at all times. If they move, our fingers are gonna move too. Yeah, well, they know that he's dangerous this guy. That's the thing This article says that his Facebook page shows he was a father a husband and a professional mixed martial arts fighter. Well, yeah Don't know much about his kid. He beats the shit out of his fucking girlfriend or wife and he's a pretty terrible MMA fighter So he's about as good as I am That's why you never believe social media because he's none of those things he proves it right there social media is a fraud it's all a fraud
Starting point is 01:19:35 you can make yourself anything you want yeah so they talk about at this point how much they you know how much of a criminal history has and then they found a connection here they found out that Nikia Jackson knows him they know each other that's even worse he fucking knows her because he sold his bootlegs his CDs and DVDs right by the laundromat really yes because that's where he sell these things so she probably chased him away a few times. Yeah, remember, or not even chased him away, talked to him, because they're all right there.
Starting point is 01:20:10 She probably doesn't give a fuck. They give away shit like that. Remember, this is The Sopranos, when he asks his girl, you want to watch the 50 Cent movie? They were giving it away at the car wash. It's one of those, you've got the DVD down in the car. So you'd sell bootleg CDs for a dollar or two in places where you think people would buy them.
Starting point is 01:20:29 And that's a shit laundromat. So that's where she was selling them. So that's what's fucked up. Dad, her dad Horace Jackson said, that's what gets me about this guy. He knew her. Unbelievable. How much madder would you be at that point? It wasn't even random. it's way more personal. He said he knew what kind of lady she was and
Starting point is 01:20:49 for him to go and do something like that it's pretty sad. Dirty, yeah. That's fucked up and that's why probably she was fighting with him and wasn't just giving up the money. If it was a stranger came in with a gun she probably would have handed over. She probably said Rochon what the fuck are you doing? What are you doing? I know you stupid, what the fuck, you can't, well you're robbing me now sell your fucking DVDs, bro But that's probably why he shot her because she probably said his name
Starting point is 01:21:11 Yeah, she knew him she fucking knew him could identify him and probably would he she probably said as soon as you walk out that door I'm gonna call the cops for Sean fuck you Yeah, generally why you don't rob people you know you know on video, and you know the person Generally while you don't rob people you know you know on video and you know the person And you're known in that area you you're the guy selling shit and the cops know you hang out around there You're one of the first fucking people they're gonna want to look for to talk to yeah Yeah, you're you're they're very well aware of you, and they've arrested you before probably yes That's the other thing they know all about about you, your record, everything. So the family of Russ Roberts said, we are glad Jones is off the street so he cannot hurt anyone else
Starting point is 01:21:50 in their family. Our thoughts and prayers go out to the Jackson family too. They said he, they describe him as a good and caring man. And the way he died was proof of the kind of life he lived. His one relative said he was just doing what was right. He would never consider himself a hero. So they said evidence led them to Jones, but the investigation is still ongoing, but they think they got their guy here. Obviously, they're pretty fucking sure. They said, quote, this is Del City police major Jody Suit.
Starting point is 01:22:21 We feel strongly that we have the right person. Yeah. I would say so here. Yeah, 42, Nikia Jackson was, by the way. Jesus. Wow. The police went on to say, I won't go into any part of the investigation as far as how he's linked to these individuals at this point because we still have a lot of footwork and a lot of investigation left to complete. He said, but it's by no means over. I feel comfortable that this is the person who killed the two individuals there. That doesn't mean that there couldn't be other people involved or who have knowledge that haven't come forward.
Starting point is 01:22:55 Yes, I would say so. Yeah, they were called at 630 a.m. to go there. Roberts was shot. Jackson was shot multiple times, more than two, they said, and Roberts... 630 AM. 630 AM. And Roberts was shot twice. So it wasn't even, I'm going to shoot you, get you away from me. I'm going to kill you. Right. I'm killing everybody.
Starting point is 01:23:18 It was meant to murder. This is for murder. Yeah. They said they never had large amounts of cash at the laundromat and they said they wouldn't say what he got or how much he got. He won't say it, Rashaan won't give it up, how much he got, so no one even knows. It's $300. Yeah, I guess his Facebook page was a lot about his workouts for MMA.
Starting point is 01:23:41 In one Facebook post, he wrote about his life, stating that he's had over 10 years in prison and so far. We know probably probably 15 right? Yeah all those times where he's not fighting he's in prison and he said quote a lot of street drama. So he had a lot of street drama 10 years in prison foster, bullets of failed marriage and failed relationships. He described September of 2016 as being one of the worst months of his life, but quote, adversity only makes you, you, just a you, stronger. It's how you deal with it that defines what kind of man you will become. That's what he wrote on Facebook. Oh, what a cheese dick bastardization of the phrase. It's a very common fucking thing to say,
Starting point is 01:24:30 but he's turning it into a dumb thing. Yeah, that's the kind of man you'll become. The kind of man who shoots a fucking grandma at fucking six o'clock in the morning and so on. A grandma and grandpa at six thirty in the morning at a laundromat for quarters. That's really, you're quite the man, I will say. Great job, buddy. So he's sitting in prison now. Yep. Obviously, he's sitting in jail. This is 2017, and he said it's not him.
Starting point is 01:24:58 He's saying it's not him. His family says, quote, this is just not him. Oh, they said it too. this is just not him. A quote from the family. They said it too. This is just not him. That's, nope, they said he ended up, they think he got killed there about $20 in cash. What?
Starting point is 01:25:18 $20. Gross. 20 fucking dollars is what he got. What's worse? He killed $10 a person. What the fuck, man? That's disturbing. I don't think there's much worse than that.
Starting point is 01:25:32 No, dude, that's disturbing, man. That's not even crackhead shit. That's worse than crackhead shit. That's some other, I don't even know, man. That's evil. That's just evil. Oh, boy. We've had people kill on this show for a lot of reasons.
Starting point is 01:25:44 Yeah. Kill so they don't have to cover something else up or because you don't want them to That's just evil. Oh boy. We've had people kill on this show for a lot of reasons. Yeah. Kill to cover something else up or because you don't want them to have your baby because whatever. We've had these crazy things. Never $20. That's fucking... $20.
Starting point is 01:25:55 That's fucking pathetic, man. That's just sad. His sister, Trinita, said, this is just not him. This is not, and I'm going to fight for him. Really? It's not him. His entire criminal history that he's to fight for him. Really? It's not him. His entire criminal history that he's had so far, he's never shot anybody. So this isn't him.
Starting point is 01:26:10 He's done everything else. So what's the difference between this and that? Yeah. That's the and Trinita said, so yes, he's pled guilty to drug and domestic violence charges, but he couldn't have done this. And this and that and this and DVDs and this is what Trinita said, quote, I mean, I understand y'all need somebody. I understand that.
Starting point is 01:26:31 I understand somebody did do this, but please they're ridiculing him and he is not the person. He's not. Maybe there's video. Yo, that is, yeah, like, come on, man. So he's got people fighting for him. He's sitting in jail. He doesn't know what the fuck to do. You're screwed.
Starting point is 01:26:51 Double first degree murder charges. You got a public defender. In Oklahoma? In Oklahoma. Oh yeah, they're talking about death penalty already. And if you're in this situation, if you needed to rob for $20, you don't have an attorney. You're getting a public defender. You're kind of fucked.
Starting point is 01:27:07 So he doesn't know what to do with himself, honestly. He's sitting there and then he needs advice, really, is what it is. He needs a friend. And sure enough, he gets a very lucky break. The cell door opens, and it's someone very unexpected. We haven't seen in a long while. It's Italian Grandma.
Starting point is 01:27:24 Where'd she come from? It's a friend. It's the ghost of Italian Grandma. She is back, she's got a big plate of menagat and she's there for ya, and she says... ["Ghost of Italian Grandma"] Ma, how is it you've come to arrive here? Ma, why are you here?
Starting point is 01:27:42 Look at you. Ma, you kill somebody, Grandma. Ma, yo. She's such a stray. Ma, why you here? Look at you. Ma you kill somebody grandma. She's such a straight. Ma why you do that? Ma look at you. You look like you could be handsome boy and nice young man instead. Why you kill people. The Russ he seemed like a nice man. I would make him a food instead. I'm a city here with you. You're but you're very shiny I will say like like like the skin of the seal, very shiny. I like, you have a nice tone, very good. I don't think I'm gonna make you anything.
Starting point is 01:28:13 No, I have to go. I feel, I've been dead for a couple years, so I feel a little bit tired right now. I haven't been up in a while, but. I need to lay down. I'm not gonna lay down. I'll be back another time, though. I'm gonna go back into right now. I haven't been up in a while, but. I need to lay down. I'm not gonna lay down. I'll be back another time though. I'm gonna go back into my mausoleum.
Starting point is 01:28:28 Okay, goodbye, poof. And in a cloud of all sorts of tasty, delicious things, an amaretto and sambuca, my grandma is back in the afterlife. She has to lay down. She has to lay down. She has to lay down. She's a little, I'm a little bit tired. I don't know, my little bit.
Starting point is 01:28:49 Take a brandy and lay down. I have a little drink, I lay down. So he's very surprised. He's like, oh, what the fuck? That was shocking. Took a swing at her and missed. Yeah, went right through her. Went right through her. Much like other fights, he missed.
Starting point is 01:29:08 Yeah, he missed. He got beat by my 93-year-old ghost of a grandma. Pin to the ground. She won in two minutes and 18 seconds by a submission from a guillotine show. Took the man I got with her. Yes, I might take this with me. I give to nicer people in nicer cells I give to nicer people who are you know in jail for no reason I feel bad The nice man two drawers down for me. Yeah
Starting point is 01:29:36 He's very skinny. I don't know he died something bad Fatten him up my fatten him up. So she's talking about what an angel her brother Roshan is, Trinita, here and police told the Jones family the incident was caught on camera and it's him. Yeah. What the fuck? And she says, not him. Really? One me. Okay. She's fucking shagging it out hardcore here. One me. She said, quote, I feel for the victims' families.
Starting point is 01:30:12 I do. I really do. And I know he's been crying because he knew these people too. So he hasn't been crying because he's in jail. He's been mourning them. Yeah, he's grieving, you guys. He's grieving. Such good friends. Yeah, he's fucking, you guys. Grieving, such good friends.
Starting point is 01:30:25 Yeah, he's fucking, Rashaan, Trinita said he was doing very well financially, so he wouldn't do this. No. She said he's an MMA fighter, and he does very well financially. No. Dave.
Starting point is 01:30:36 He's doing $100 fights. One article states that he was on a downward spiral in his career. He never was an upward. He has two wins. He's two and seven. He's been in a downward spiral since 22. Yup. He's had no money. He's got debts and financial problems and kids and child support and all this shit. Trinitas said, though, he doesn't ask anyone for anything. So for
Starting point is 01:30:59 him to have to go to a laundromat and rob them for $20, it's just not possible. Okay. Yeah. No, it's not just not possible. Okay. Yeah. No, it's not possible is what it is. Yeah. He should have asked people for shit rather than robbing them. That would have been better. Right.
Starting point is 01:31:11 Ask you for help. Ask someone else for help. She claims that the laundry station is where he goes to wash his clothes. So he knows her very well, this woman. Oh my God. She said he wasn't there that morning because he was home watching one of his kids. Oh Which one who knows one of his kids She's asking her fan her and her family members are asking for help here. They're like help us free him This is their no, not the right guy
Starting point is 01:31:38 They said quote if you know anything about who really did this, please This is not letting an innocent man go to jail because this is not letting an innocent man go to jail for something he didn't do. That's a weird statement. It's just wrong. It's just wrong. So then some more details come out here about this murder. And they said that possible a little more on the motive. Um, here that's a possibility. They said that according to the arrest warrant, they reviewed the footage and saw a suspect carrying a white plastic bag walking into the business's drop off station, which I guess they do your laundry. I don't know before running around the counter and attacking her. He started beating her up, is what he did. Wow.
Starting point is 01:32:26 And was having a hard time with a 42-year-old grandma. Couldn't handle her. Yeah, couldn't handle her. She's 42, she's got a grandbaby. She's beating that kid all day long. She does go by the mongoose, Nikia Jackson, though. You know, so. She's gonna kick his ass.
Starting point is 01:32:42 She's chasing her grandchild and telling that child no, she can handle him. Jesus. The affidavit says while the suspect is fighting with Jackson, Russ Roberts, who is inside the main store washing his clothes, comes in and attempts to grab the suspect off of Jackson. Okay. So he's a fucking... No, he's trying to be a hero here.
Starting point is 01:33:01 He's trying to stop a man from beating up a fucking 43 year old woman During this altercation Roberts is shot multiple times and drops to the floor The suspect then turns his attention back to Jackson and shoots her multiple times fucking cold as ice Unbelievable to shoot this guy off and then turn around to this woman who's cowering I'm whatever, and just a woman you know and just pump shots in or cold. That's crazy. As fucking ice.
Starting point is 01:33:28 He then grabs a green bank bag, you know, the fucking deposit bags every business has. With a little lock on it. Yeah, with a little lock, like my grandfather had at the barber shop. Has a 20 in it. Yeah, it's probably, $20 in singles is what it's in there. It's got a 10 of five and five ones.
Starting point is 01:33:43 Fuck, yeah, for change. How the day begins. Fuck, and store cash and then exits the laundry station leaving behind the white trash bag on the countertop. Leaving his clothes. Leaving whatever was in there there. Now, while interviewing other employees at the business, one employee told police that Roshon Jones was angry that one of his friends had been fired from the laundry station by Nakia Jackson. So this is like, I'm bad at her and I might as well take $30 while I'm there.
Starting point is 01:34:15 Secondary vengeance for a friend? For a friend's guts fired from a minimum wage job. Right. He could be working at Arby's by the end of the week. Who gives a shit? Like find anything. Yeah. I've worked minimum wage minimum wage jobs and you go from one to the other to the other. They're always hiring and they're always firing. That's how it works. You always get fired. You always find another one. It's not a big deal. Nope.
Starting point is 01:34:37 So the employee went on to say that Jones allegedly said that quote, maybe he should rob this place. That's his friend who he was mad about said that he told him maybe I should rob it if you got fired fuck that place so investigators continued looking into the clothing that was inside the plastic bag he left his fucking clothes there and he's going it's not me someone else had a bag of your clothes who had a bag of your clothes? Who had a bag of your laundry? This is your turbo, man. How many people have bags of your laundry, Jimmy, that they could plant at murder scenes? I hope nobody.
Starting point is 01:35:13 He said there were several items there that were able to be linked to Jones. The affidavit claims that a memorial shirt for Pearhead was found in the bag, which refers to Jones's family member who was shirt for Pearhead was found in the bag, which refers to Jones's family member who was nicknamed Pearhead. His family member that died? Yes, they called him Pearhead. They made memorial shirts for him. He had one.
Starting point is 01:35:35 It was in the fucking bag, which is very specific to one family. Very personal. Yeah. Also, investigators found a red medium-sized Sims Boxing Academy shirt and contacted the gym's owner. Yeah. The owner said the suspect's footwork in the video was that of a trained fighter and that only 20 of those shirts had been made.
Starting point is 01:35:56 So he showed him the video and he goes, oh, the way he's moving his feet, he knows how to throw his shit. He's a trained fighter. And there's only about 20 of these, so they could narrow it down quickly. 20 guys, yeah. The owner said that one of the five adults
Starting point is 01:36:09 he gave a medium-sized shirt to was Rashaun Jones. Yeah, there's 20 of them, then narrow it down to medium. It's small, medium, large, extra large, yes. So he gave away five mediums, and he's one of them. Oh boy, that was easy. Dude, this is so, he's one of them. Oh boy that and Dude, this is so he's fucked is what this is the quickest investigation ever. It's so fucked So he is charged with these killings obviously and look the key it there. She looks very nice So does Russ he looks like a nice guy look at these two. Oh They look like nice people Russ looks so much fun. Yeah, Russ looks like he's got like stories. He's got great jokes
Starting point is 01:36:45 Yeah, you get a couple of beers in a music He says some fun things Nikita looks like a very nice lady. Yeah Nice attractive lady fucked up. Yeah, what a dick and there's him being a fucking asshole. So oh Man, that is wild. By the way, they also reported he used to place posters with the you know They also reported he used to place posters with the, you know, acquiescence of Nikia Jackson for his upcoming fights in the laundromat. He used to post them on the bulletin board if she would allow it.
Starting point is 01:37:13 Post them on the windows and shit. She would allow him to do that because he was there. The guy that sold you a Borat was also fighting here this week. Yeah, if I give you a Borat, will you let me put this up on the wall? So July 19th. Fine, I'll sweeten the pot with wedding crashers. Okay, fine. Fine. You want that but you're a little more, you know, you're a couple years older. Here's old school. How
Starting point is 01:37:37 about that? Will Ferrell running around. Everyone doesn't want to see that. Come on. It's a brand new hangover. Brand new. Perfect, all three of them, or five of them, or however many of those they fucking made. So July 19th, 2017, he is proclaiming his innocence after a preliminary hearing. Yes he is.
Starting point is 01:37:59 He's saying he listened to the evidence against him, which is overwhelming. And they talked about all the surveillance video and everything like that. They said you could see him lunge at Jackson. You can't see his face on there. But they said all of the other shit, his clothes were in there.
Starting point is 01:38:15 There were nobody else's fucking clothes. They also testified that surveillance video from a nearby gas station showed a white Honda Pilot, the same car Jones was arrested in, in the area at the time of the murders. It drives a Honda Pilot like a mother of three going to soccer practice. Very nice. Front wheel drive SUV. What a piece of shit. Jesus. The laundromat employee that was his friend testified at the preliminary hearing that Jones was upset over the firing of this long time laundromat employee and that he told her several days before the murders that he was going to rob their place.
Starting point is 01:38:52 A part owner of the laundromat testified that there was maybe $200 missing. Wow. So that could have been like a whole day's take. They asked him, does he have anything to say? And he said, or no, this was not in court, this was as he was walking out, news camera said, anything to say? And he said, quote, I'm innocent.
Starting point is 01:39:11 Are you? Innocent. His girlfriend, who he was living with at the time, testified there that there was nothing unusual about his behavior after the crime. Yikes. That's disturbing, that means he's a cold-blooded fuck. She first said she could not recognize the person in the surveillance video, but then
Starting point is 01:39:29 admitted she thought it did look like Jones based on the way he moved and his mannerisms. It's him. You know your significant other on video. That's the other face. They said one of Jones's friends who attended the preliminary hearing said he does not believe Jones is capable of murder. No. Really?
Starting point is 01:39:46 Yeah. He said this. This is Jimmy Thompson's his name. Does he know D'Angelo? I think maybe that's where he got the name from. Yeah. He said, we've stood alongside each other feeding the poor and helping the homeless. So I don't understand.
Starting point is 01:40:01 This doesn't seem like him at all to me. They say they have a videotape the videotape is not has been constantly said that it was not you know You can't really identify the person in the videotape So, you know, there you go. So August there they announced they are going to seek the death penalty against him. Oh Yeah, they're gonna go right after him They said prosecutor said at the present time there exists a probability that the defendant will commit criminal acts of violence that would constitute a continuing threat to society. They also called these killings especially heinous, atrocious or cruel and doing all
Starting point is 01:40:38 this for $200. Now 2018, you think he'd want to keep cool in prison? Yeah, keep it, at minimum, you know, keep it chill. Yeah, now he is arrested in prison, charged in prison I should say, with possession of contraband in a penal institution. What did he have? Don't know on that particular one. That's, and don't worry, there's way more coming up.
Starting point is 01:41:00 But we know exactly what he had. That was in August, August 13th, 2018. Then in 2022, still waiting for trial, by the way. Five years. Five fucking years. This happens all the time. There's a female college basketball player named Kamiya Street, who I've been waiting for the trial since like 2018. I've had this fucking case on my list and just hasn't happened yet. She's still waiting. So it's gotta be a slam dunk for them to do that. Right. Well, I think there's delays anyway, because both sides want the delays because the defense wants to be able to build their case and then the prosecution and then COVID happened, which delayed everything
Starting point is 01:41:37 a couple of years. So I think that is part of this whole thing. So April 13th, 2022, he's charged with possession of contraband by an inmate cell phones. Okay. Phones, multiple phones. He's hustling phones in there. Also, that was what? That was April 13th. So same day, unlawful possession of CDS with intent to distribute controlled substance. Oh. Xanax. He's selling Xanax. He sells Xanax in prison Xanax and fucking cell phones. He's moving all the big stuff, all the big shit. So that was then also in the exact same thing. He is aggravated trafficking of illegal drugs. He's arrested for aggravated trafficking of illegal drugs, heroin. Oh my God. Xanax, heroin and cell phones. What in the fuck do you need the good shit? You go to Roshan. He's the worst. He's a terrible fucking person. He's the worst of all of them.
Starting point is 01:42:36 That that all happened in May and April of 2022. So his cell got raided, obviously, and they found all this shit. Now, May 29th, 2022, there is a change.org petition that starts with him. Please change, stop being a bad man. Stop being an asshole, yeah. It's not a petition to him, it's a petition from him. Here we go, here is his, he's gonna, this is his pitch, man, to save him. Wow.
Starting point is 01:43:03 Okay, it's long too too I'll read it all he said quote my name is Roshan Jones I'm currently detained in Oklahoma City County Jail yes jail not prison five years in jail five years in the county jail is brutal guys nightmare they get they get guys to plead to things by holding them in county jail for long enough because they want to get to prison by holding them in county jail for long enough because they want to get to prison because the conditions are a lot better than a jail. Maybe that's a strategy here? I don't know if it's a strategy here, but it's a strategy that they use all the time.
Starting point is 01:43:34 They try to wait you out. Yes, jail, not prison. I've been here for over five and a half years with no trial. I have been wrongfully charged. They have not been able to find enough supporting evidence to move forward with no trial. I have been wrongfully charged. They have not been able to find enough supporting evidence to move forward with the trial." I don't know if that's true or if that's his, that's kind of a glass half empty kind of thing there. That's how he perceives it.
Starting point is 01:43:52 I was charged with two counts of first degree murder and I'm currently facing the death penalty. They're trying to kill me! Exclamation point. That's what that means. They refuse to just dismiss the case although the evidence they currently have points to my release You're fucking closer that you get someone else went to do your laundry. What does he say? What the fuck the number one thing that points to my release is they have an actual video footage of the crime and it's not Me in the video. No, that's not what anybody said. Your girlfriend said sure looks like him Your sister said that your sister said it's not you. That's the only person that said that.
Starting point is 01:44:28 That's it. That's it. I am a black male standing five feet eight inches tall. The real murderer in the video is a male much taller with a heavier body weight than me. This man is also a different ethnicity than myself. It is apparent in the video that the man is not black, yet they refuse to dismiss the charges. Okay, well, who did you give your fucking laundry to? You answer me who you gave your laundry to and then we'll check into them and if they're guilty, we'll let you out in a heartbeat. Are you saying somebody broke into your place and stole your whites? Stole, just you had them in a plastic bag ready to go.
Starting point is 01:45:04 And they're like like these will do Yeah, and then went to the place that you just told someone three days before that you were gonna go rob You're gonna rob. Yeah. Yeah, that's what happened there Wow Prosecution has withheld evidence that could free me Hit evidence that would lead to an immediate dismissal and destroyed evidence that points to my innocence Okay, well you can file things for that. Here's a good time to disclose that. You want us to believe you.
Starting point is 01:45:31 You're throwing the pitch. Tell us what that is. That's the thing. Tell us and file something in court that exclusively says what it is and then let a judge talk about it. That's what happens all the time. They'll do it fast. They'll do it.
Starting point is 01:45:42 They'll get right on it. I don't want to get sued. Yeah, exactly. Prosecution has intentionally provided false information to several different judges throughout the duration of this case and continues to prolong the case with no trial date set due to their refusal to submit evidence needed to proceed. I have not had a trial and my constitutional rights have been violated. Wow.
Starting point is 01:46:04 I have lost my friends and my career. Get the fuck out of here. What career? You were a criminal. Dude, you were selling bootleg shit and going two and seven in MMA. That's not a fucking career. You're a career criminal.
Starting point is 01:46:16 Yeah, you are. He hasn't been able to wrap. They got you off the street. Yeah, they stopped you from criming. But he's continued it in jail. He's selling heroin and Xanax and cell phones. You're doing great. You're doing fantastic.
Starting point is 01:46:28 This is your career. They have made, they have completely defamed my character on the news and through the media. You know, with court filing saying you're guilty. With facts and shit. Yeah. News and social media outlets reported a criminal history that was not true and can literally be verified by a real background check. Which, by by the way I have a background check thing and that's how I found all those fucking arrests so they are real. We got you. Yes I had a
Starting point is 01:46:51 troubled upbringing I grew up in foster care and have been on my own since I was a teenager but I have not obtained any new offenses since 2013. Absolutely not fucking true. Absolutely not true I can show them to you. That's what's on his record. We've got you, man. We know what you're doing. That is, wow, I don't even know what to say about that. How can you just say that when you can just Google it? Anybody can Google it. He was just arrested. That is a frustrated sentence so many people have said.
Starting point is 01:47:24 I can't, yeah, I can't even. How can you just say that? How can you just say that? A month ago, he was just arrested for four fucking things. That was a month ago. How can you say that? How can you say that? This is, wow, this is frustrating.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Yeah. Holy fucking shit. What is this? I lost my friends and career. Yes, blah, blah, blah. What is this? I lost my friends and career Yes, well blah. Okay. All right The last felony offense was in 2003. No, it wasn't Absolutely wasn't you were caught counterfeiting money after that more than if the fucking Secret Service came to your house you fucking idiot. Oh I do not have the criminal
Starting point is 01:48:01 History they pinned on me. I was on the right path and my life was in order. I have a bachelor's degree in business marketing from Oklahoma State University and was actively professional fighting for the mixed martial arts, MMA. No, you weren't. It was the other thing. You were, but you were just getting beat every week.
Starting point is 01:48:20 I was actually home with my newborn son when this crime took place and they ignored my confirmed alibi Which was confirmed by your sister who? Said you're a great guy who never did anything wrong Confirmed would be like showing you on camera at home with your kid Rather than showing your car at a nearby gas station you fucking idiot or you on camera murdering people Yeah, they found my clothes at the laundromat
Starting point is 01:48:44 But they chose to ignore the fact that I dropped my clothes off weekly found my clothes at the laundromat but they chose to ignore the fact that I dropped my clothes off weekly to be washed at the laundromat. Yes, the guy that dropped those off chased people around the counter and shot them. Yes. We know who dropped those clothes off, the murderer. The murderer, that we know. Whether it's you or not, we don't know. You just said you dropped your clothes off but that person who dropped your clothes off murdered somebody. So who the fuck dropped your clothes off, but that person who dropped your clothes off murdered somebody So who the fuck dropped your clothes off you can solve this whole case by telling us who the murderer is who dropped your clothes off
Starting point is 01:49:11 There it is Wow, so whoever had your clothes did this Wow they choose to also ignore the oh, that's it They choose to also ignore that finding finding clothes there that also belonged to my entire family So someone in your family. So who? Your newborn son? Is that who killed him? Right. Who else had a pearhead shirt and a fucking boxing shirt
Starting point is 01:49:33 together? Who had both of those shirts? You. Well, some of the other clothes in there must have been his whole family. Yeah. So you or someone you're related to killed them. Killed them.
Starting point is 01:49:42 So disclose it. Give up cousin Pookie and let's get this over with because I'm fucking tired of this, James. Otherwise, you stay there. Staying there. Lastly, they're ignoring the fact that I owned a fitness gym at the time, no record of that, and gave out t-shirts from the gym along with
Starting point is 01:49:58 my personal clothing and often donated clothing to Goodwill. He's saying that this could be. He is so nice, James. He gives his own shirt off his back to people all the time. Too much charity is what it is. Didn't realize he gave away his pearhead shirt and it all got fucked up. I gave away my pair of thieves boxers.
Starting point is 01:50:20 Yeah. But those are two separate things. I dropped my clothes off at the laundry either way. But now you're saying that might not even be your clothes. That could be clothes you've donated and given to people and also clothes from your family somehow got in there. And a person who moves like you dropped them off and killed the person, but it wasn't you,
Starting point is 01:50:38 even though you were parked nearby and at home with your son at the same time. Somebody wants to be you so bad, they move and act like you, and then follow you around and take your discarded clothing. They wait for you to dump shit in a goodwill bin and then they dive in and get it, that's how it works.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Wow, before I was arrested for a murder I had nothing to do with, I was a professional MMA fighter, I owned a construction company called Judah Construction LLC, I owned a gym called Judah Supreme Fitness, and I was also a landlord for a property I owned. None of this shit is verified at all, by the way. He owned property and two companies? He sold bootleg DVDs in 2016 outside of a laundromat.
Starting point is 01:51:23 James, you don't know many construction owners owners obviously, because that's what they do. Especially gym owners too. Yeah. Mr. Bally's used to sit out in front of 24 hour fitness and throw those out. Since the arrest, I've been denounced by the association association which has caused my fighting record to be damaged Your fighting records are two and seven. He's saying now they're They're saying he lost fights. He didn't lose No, you put that's on fucking record exactly to the second when you lost not only that and it's all filmed
Starting point is 01:52:00 It's been a room another. There's another guy who beat you. What about him? He can say, no, I kicked his fucking ass. It's been ruined. This guy's such a fucking liar. I'm so frustrated with this guy right now. I hate this guy. I don't like him at all. This court case has caused sales of Honda Pilots to plummet. Yeah, plummeted.
Starting point is 01:52:20 It's ruined. Nobody goes to the laundromat anymore. People are walking around funky with dirty clothes. I Swear to fucking God. I at this point. I hope he didn't do it and gets convicted anyway, because I can't stand him That's the only thing that will give me justice. They don't use the quarter as currency anymore. You guys No, stay the card thing. You got to put it in you buy a card thing. That's what they do. Oh God, okay card thing you gotta put it in you buy a card thing that's what they do oh god okay fighting was my life that's a sad fucking life two and seven yeah and I worked hard to build my reputation as a piss poor fighter who loses most of his
Starting point is 01:52:55 fights you didn't have a nickname yeah before this event took place I was a husband and a father well you still are you can't take no one can take that away from you adjudicated criminal doesn't mean you're not a husband and a father. Well you still are. You can't take, no one can take that away from you. Yeah, adjudicated criminal doesn't mean you're not a husband and father. You're just a criminal father now. The Green River killer is also a husband and a father. Still a, BTK's a dad. You know that. Yeah, sure is. Daughters on the internet doing all that thing. He's a dad.
Starting point is 01:53:17 Yeah. I have lost my wife and my family because of this. I have not seen or touched my children in over five years. They're probably being kept away from you because people think you're a murderer. Yeah. Last week I fought back my tears because my daughter graduated from high school and I could not be there. A month before that she went to prom and I tried my hardest to be involved all while being behind a jail cell. How do you be involved in prom? I don't know, picking up the dress?
Starting point is 01:53:45 Swing by visiting day before on your way to prom so I can see you guys all in your formals here. Bring that fucking corsage through security. They'll let you take it. Leave the pin in the car. Yeah, you're going to have to leave the pin in the car for sure. Use tape. My youngest son struggles to remember who I am.
Starting point is 01:54:01 Oh, thank God. I struggle, yeah, good, he can maybe forget you. I struggled to maintain a relationship with my children, which has been beyond heartbreaking because I was a very active father before this took place. I grew up in foster care without parents, so it has always been important to me to be everything to my children
Starting point is 01:54:17 that my parents were not to me. I am not supposed to be here. That's a funny way to say it. He's like Dante in Clerks. I'm not even supposed to be here. That's a funny way to say it. He's like Dante and clerks. I'm not even supposed to be here today. I'm not supposed to be here and I'm fighting for my life literally. I am facing the death penalty. They've ignored the law and violated my rights or I would have gone to trial by now. News outlet media have collaborated with the criminal justice department for the
Starting point is 01:54:45 state of Oklahoma to defame my character to assist with an indictment being obtained." So now they're all in it together. I'm no longer in trust of their criminal justice system as they have shown the measures they are willing to take. Yes, arresting murderers. Yeah, that's an extreme measure. You're right. They have taken my life away from me. Instead of dismissing the charges and going after the real suspect, they have let ego step in and are refusing to drop the charges. Yeah. All of the things are saying allegedly, obviously it's not been whatever, but still the state of Oklahoma has demonstrated their lack of integrity. Someone has dropped the ball in prosecution and they know it, but they continue to hold me captive.
Starting point is 01:55:29 Oh. Captive. Now he's a prisoner of like a different thing. He's been captured. Political prisoner. Yeah. They continue to pursue the death penalty, which is extreme when they have no evidence. Well, pursuing the death. Yeah, it would be extreme to kill someone without any evidence, but if they convict you, that meant there's evidence, and then it's not that extreme because you killed two people, including a 42-year-old woman in cold blood.
Starting point is 01:55:52 They're pursuing it because it's apropos of the crime that's been committed. And that's the law in the book state. Right, don't commit crimes like that in Oklahoma, man. Yeah, and I mean, like I said, we're not huge death penalty advocates and we don't know shit, but this is a... I'm not sure if he did or not,
Starting point is 01:56:08 but try not to suck any dicks on your way through the parking lot. That's it, yeah, try not to suck any dicks on your way through the parking lot. I'm 37? Yeah, that's how he's acting. He just found out his girlfriend fucked snowball. That's my favorite when he tells Randall, my girlfriend sucked 36 ticks in a row.
Starting point is 01:56:35 In a row is the best question. In a row? So they continue to pursue the death penalty. They continue with the plans to end my life. Please get enraged. Please share my story. Please contact the City of Oklahoma Prosecution Office and demand my charges be dismissed. Please sign the petition and please contact the state of Oklahoma legislators and let
Starting point is 01:57:05 them know what is taking place in their state. I fight by writing my story. Please fight for my life by taking action. Please fight for me by getting my story out and demanding action. I deserve to live! Exclamation point. And that. He thinks that, he thinks that I'm just going to call and call and they're gonna go I demand you let him go there
Starting point is 01:57:27 Oh, oh, yeah, okay. Well since you demand as he says city of Oklahoma Prosecution office as Roshan says let him go. That didn't work. Sorry. I don't know man. They said no So I mean, yeah, this is I mean there's people that you There's a family with no mother and grandmother Us's family and there's an apartment complex missing the nosy guy who knows what everybody's doing when they get new cars and shit You know, I feel bad for those people you have to I don't feel bad for him I feel bad for all those people Jimmy. Yeah, but not nearly as I bad as I feel for Rashaun Jones customer who's a woman by the way,
Starting point is 01:58:06 customer service healthcare industry in National City, California, who went to the University of San Diego. Rashaun Jones, some guy on Instagram, has a thing that says, we buy houses cash and fast. He says he was an Olympic trainer and is now a podcaster, YouTuber, vegan and a non-profit at Seoul City Boxing. Rashaun Jones, founder of the Jones Administration. From Trenton, New Jersey. There's him. He went to New Jersey City University.
Starting point is 01:58:46 And there's that guy. Rashawn Jones, data engineer, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. He went to Penn Medical School. Oh. Jesus Christ. Or no, he works at Penn Medicine. He went to Rutgers. Never mind.
Starting point is 01:58:58 OK. Yeah, well. Still pretty good, more than we did. And then finally. And then finally, Rashawnon Jones with an A. Roshon, who will have his own episode. Oh! Because he is another criminal athlete.
Starting point is 01:59:13 He is a member of the, was a member of the Miami Hurricanes football team. And have you guys all seen that picture? It's a meme where they have the Miami football team and they're all holding hands and doing a memorial in midfield around a fallen teammate that's been murdered. He of course was on the team and he was holding hands with everybody honoring the man that he murdered. It's fucking bonkers. So a murderer football player there. So
Starting point is 01:59:42 there you go. Cold as fuck. So those are Roshon Jones and that is Roshon Jones. He's still sitting there. Who knows what's gonna happen. I mean eventually they're gonna either have to try him or fucking let him go. They can't keep him forever. I don't know that how long do they probably have him right now on parole charges while right well, he's gonna keep him in there, right? He's got that then he was also had all the charges in jail. So at this point, he's got those processing He's probably got things for that. So they're holding him no matter what and then It's just whether they're gonna try him or not. It seems pretty damning from my our point of view
Starting point is 02:00:21 Yeah, his excuses of it was my family's laundry, it might have been people's laundry that I gave away to them at Goodwill and they might have gathered it together with my family's laundry, brought it there, killed people I know outside of a place I hung out at. And left my shit there. And left my shit there.
Starting point is 02:00:38 Because I'm wealthy, I have all these businesses and I'm doing great. It's kind of a flimsy excuse, so I'm not sure how that works. Either way, check it out, keep up on that case, and obviously when there is a resolution to it, we will definitely give you an update to it. We've been waiting for this for years. I've had him on the list since 2017 since this happened.
Starting point is 02:00:57 Somebody had sent me an article, MMA fighter arrested for fucking murder, and I was like, oh awesome, put that on the list. It's on a weathered, like tattered piece of paper from this list from 2017 from fucking seven years ago. And it was like, we're doing this, I'm tired of waiting. Fuck Oklahoma. Fuck him.
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Starting point is 02:03:20 week, including this week where for Crime and Sports we're going to talk about Hans Neumann who is a chess player who has been accused of having a vibrator up his ass to know what chess moves to make. And he's not the only one that's done this. There's other people that have done it. So we're going to try to find other people. Did you find how he found out what the vibrations meant? Do we have that? You have to have a code. It's probably a horse code thing, I would assume. Gross. Possibly. You feeling your prostate?
Starting point is 02:03:48 Rook tonight six or whatever the fuck is. You do that and you go, while he sits there. I feel it in my gut wounds. It's supposed to be here. Fucking eyes twitching and shit. Dicks getting hard and all weird. Strange stuff. Laugh villages.
Starting point is 02:04:02 Yeah. Anybody hear that? Shh. Anybody? No? OK, strange stuff. Wrappelogist. Yeah. Anybody hear that? Anybody? No? Okay, nevermind. And then for Small Town Murder, we're going to talk about something I've wanted to talk about for years, because I've been looking at it since I was a kid.
Starting point is 02:04:14 D.B. Cooper. And other people have done it too, I know that. But there's some new stuff actually that came out very recently that we're going to talk about and just kind of go over the whole thing, because it's really fucking weird and it's one of the most amazing, we have so few things that are absolute mysteries like this. And so that'll be a fun one.
Starting point is 02:04:31 Nobody got hurt. No, nobody got hurt, he was nice to everybody. He treated everybody like gold. He's a real gentleman, everybody said. I don't know, he's just this normal guy. So that said, yeah, do all of that. Patreon.com slash crime and sport sport shut up and give me murder Comm is where you get everything tickets to live shows join us for our virtual live show 420
Starting point is 02:04:51 Can't wait and you can see costumes and we're gonna make Jimmy smoke weed out of devices that he's gonna be terrified of so let's go That's gonna be a lot of fun, but never mind all that you I need I need need need to hear the names of the most wonderful Never mind all that, Jimmy. I need, I need, need, need to hear the names of the most wonderful fucking people on Earth who keep this show going and who have kept this show going for years and years and who we couldn't do this without. Jimmy, hit me with the fucking list. This week's negative producer Laura Turner
Starting point is 02:05:18 was Vasquez, Peyton Meadows, Janice Hill, Kyle Morwig on his way to the Blue Pearl buffet, James. Hey, going to the Blue Pearl. That's under your stupid opinions, Robert. It's evidently located down the street from his kid's headquarters. They've been there before, and they go there a lot. Careful, careful. Keep me posted, Kyle.
Starting point is 02:05:37 Jordan Bennett donating on behalf of the memory of Brother Deeg. I'm so upset to find out that Brother Deegh was a great musician, so go find his shit. D-E-G-E. Martha Gilreith, Dustin Mobley, and Jesse Hines. Thank you all so much for being a part of this. You are tremendous. Other producers this week are the unfunny comic
Starting point is 02:06:00 Joey Bishop. Who is that? Do we know who that is? Joey Bishop was part of the Rat Pack. Oh, got it. He was's part of the Rat Pack. Oh He was the comic of the rat pack Louis Skolnik president of the tri-lams. That's nice With the glasses from revenge of the nerds. Not the main guy
Starting point is 02:06:23 Not Anthony Edwards Not the black guy not Anthony Edwards. No, no. Captain. Not Booker, not the black guy, not Anthony Edwards. The main one, yeah. Captain Lou Albino is coined by Rowdy Rowdy Piper. I didn't know that. He called him Lou Albino. Did you know that? I never heard him call him Lou Albino. During the Cyndi Lauper times.
Starting point is 02:06:38 I don't know. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, they were always arguing then. That could happen. Sharon Jones also. Thank you, Sharon. Thank you. Joshua Waite, Julie R. Heather Varvel, CJ and Jacob Mutson, Mercedes Roof, just one Mercedes, not plural.
Starting point is 02:06:51 Just one. Yeah, fuck that. Nick with no last name, Jessica Hippey, hype. Keep some room in the garage. Mel with no last name, Ian McClements, Edward Overbay, Sally Coltas Isabel Cooper Jason Gajon Courtney Damron Is that real? Yeah, it is Marla Marla burro Bureau Marla Bureau Chrissy Hatfield Jennifer B Giant James Richter Lex Atkins Rena Riannon Riannon McCovey Pauline would know last name. Is that a song too? Yeah, you're right Karen Hachi Pauline with no last name. Is that a song too, Kyle? Damn it. It's Lee with Mac. Yeah, you're right. Karen Hachi, hi-chee, almost hi-tachi. Brian with no last name.
Starting point is 02:07:30 Brian Williamson, probably the same guy, two different patrons. I don't know, maybe two Brian's back to back. Thank you, Brian, one and two. Both of you Brian's. Andrew Fisher, Andrea Hermanson, Andrea maybe. Colton with no last name. Keith Wardell, Steve Gilree, Ryan Larson,
Starting point is 02:07:47 Joe Werner, Lewis Lewis, Luis Lewis, I don't know, Elaine Oldendorf, Bishop Williams, don't put two words back to back and have me try to pronounce each one different. You can use them in Jimmy here. Mike Geary, Kim Whiteman, Jenna Utter, oh that is Charlie's daughter I imagine. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 02:08:07 Charlie Utter and what was her name? Joni, god damn it. Joni. Joni Stubbs. God damn it. Lisa Cole, Destiny Burkhalter, Mallory McCool, Dylan Valesky, Michelle Schleich. Mike would know last name, Sydney Trimble, Danielle Demare, Demare, Rachel B, 21, Fuzzy Nips, Emily with no last name,
Starting point is 02:08:30 Melissa Truax, Amanda Burrell, Burrell, Burrell, yeah, Ariel Clark, Christy B, Analisa, Analisa? Ha ha, Analisa. Violet Hernandez, Will Warren, Tracy Holmes, Ryan Carruco, Akumoto. I heard your name was Annalisa. Now, I'm just saying. Any of that true?
Starting point is 02:08:56 Y'all wanna hang out later? Just saying, wanna get a drink? Cerebrator. Come by, watch the race later. I'm trying some poppers. NASCAR zone, Yeah, come on. Kevin Hoard, Phyllis and Mickenich. SeƱorita Dave Grohl.
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Starting point is 02:09:45 A-M-A-I-E, is that Amy? A-M-A-E? Wow. Am-E-E. Am-I-E-I-E. All right, G. Willikers, G, the letter G, Willikers. Ah, Batman. Gotcha. Shannon De Silva, Matthew Welsenbach, Jessica Patterson,
Starting point is 02:10:02 oh yeah, OJ's glove, James. Oh! That's fantastic. And that's now weson, OJ's glove, James. Oh! That's fantastic. And that's now we know where OJ's glove is. Perfect, I've been wondering where that's been at. Carrie Lennon, Christopher Murray, Jordan Jost, Marjorie Bui-Collard, Jim Harrington, Valerie Clark, Sam McAllister, Christa Lai, Lee, Christa Lee,
Starting point is 02:10:21 Amanda Wilkie Newton, Emily Chandler, this show brought to you by the letter B. Isaac Black. Austin Ireland. F me so gently with a chainsaw. What? Oh, all right. Just lovingly gliding in and out.
Starting point is 02:10:36 Yikes. That's like with the Buick in the Crime and Sports episode. Yeah. With the Bonneville, sorry, the Pontiac. The 67 Bonneville. Yeah, 67 Bonneville. Back in Crime and Sports. And I would know last name. James Pontiac. The 67 Bonneville. Yeah, 67 Bonneville, back in crime and sports.
Starting point is 02:10:46 And I would know last name, James Perrier, Wendy Barnes, Josh Burton, and Angelique Solgat, Icarus Icairus Icarus. Oh, Icarus. 189 Stackhouse. And also, the legend of flying too close to the sun. Patricia Coleman, Arnette Gutierrez, Nina Ruth Sutherland, Debbie Vivarino,
Starting point is 02:11:07 Celeste Robinson-Mazou, Bill Whitmer, Fanny GZ, Diana Marie Trippley, Trippy, Tri-P, Dripple. All right, Judy Tilly, Kelsey Carpenter, Nancy Perozzi, Tyna Tina, it's not Tyna, Tryon, Cindy Smith, Heather Letterley, John Stewart, probably not, Daniel Beauchamp, Lindsay Phelps, Anna and Tom, Kendall Rodman, Happy Birthday Jaden, Jack and Finn said so.
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Starting point is 02:11:57 It really keeps the show going, and just thank you for everything. We hope you enjoy all the Patreon and all the regular material we're putting out. We can't stop. We'll keep putting more out. Damn it. This is how we eat dinner.
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