Crime in Sports - #408 - The Prolific Procreator - Travis Henry

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

This week, we tell the wild tale of an NFL player, who couldn't get out of his own way. He did one thing well, and that's impregnating women. Even in the world of sports, his child output num...bers are remarkable. Once he's suspended from football, he turns to another business to try to pay all that child support... Being a cocaine kingpin! But that also doesn't work out so well, and here he is, on this show!!Make Shawn Kemp jealous of your virility, tell everyone what a good dad you are, and threaten the lives of a man's family, over a coke deal gone awry with Travis Henry!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:52 Oh yay indeed Jimmy, yay indeed. My name is James Petragallo, I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you folks so much for joining us today on another crazy adventure of Crime and Sports. So much fun. I hope you enjoyed the three-part Joe Pepitone saga. Holy. That was maybe one of my favorite stories
Starting point is 00:01:16 we've ever told, just because of his own storytelling is amazing. 100% true. Yeah, people get it. Or maybe not. But either way, some people are like, I don't know how much of the book is true. Who cares? Even if.
Starting point is 00:01:26 He said it. He, that's what he wants to project, which is even funnier. So either way, whether it's true or not, holy shit, it's interesting. So. That's the words he wants you to know about him. It's very interesting.
Starting point is 00:01:36 Oh, and by the way, we have acquired the Joe Pepitone Dong Mag. We have acquired this magazine. We have it. We have Joey Pease D. We have Foxy Lady 1975, whatever month it was. Good God. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Just Vaseline-y pictures of him and his dong. It's fucking hilarious. It's at Crime and Sports or whatever the fuck. Find us on social media and I'll post some with the dong blurred out. I'll post some of the pictures from it because it's fucking hilarious. Pixelated? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Pixelated, you know, draw some. Don't color on it. Oh yeah, I'm gonna color it in. We gotta keep it. And I'm gonna color it in. I'm gonna color it in but stay in the lines and that'll be even funnier. Ha!
Starting point is 00:02:18 Because it's like, well you can still see his dick. It's just not, you know. It's just sharpie. Can't see the skin now, you know. It'll be even funnier. So this week we have some more crazy shit here. This is a more modern guy. You know, we did an older guy.
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Starting point is 00:04:13 and you have tears coming out of your eyes because it's fucking funny. So check that out, do all of that and keep hanging out with us. That said, let's do it with the asshole of the week. Let's get into it here with Travis Dion Henry. Travis Henry, remember him? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Bengals.
Starting point is 00:04:28 The running back, well, the Broncos for a long time. Oh, and the Titans, Bills? Titans and Bills, yeah, you got both of those. So, Travis Henry, nice, not the Dolphins though. Right. As you know, he's not flipper. Travis Henry here, he is famous for having maybe the most kids in sports that we've known about.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Like he competes with Sean Kemp for the most kids by the most women. It's remarkable how many children this guy has. He starts from a young age and just, my God is he fucking potent. He is just, he has so much sperm. It's not even jizz. When he goes, it's just fucking sperm shootout.
Starting point is 00:05:10 There's no liquid in it. It's fucking wild, thick with sperm. Another Henry died in the pickup truck, right? Yes, yeah, yeah, the Wider Chris Henry. This is a different, right, this is an entire different Henry. This is a running back, not a receiver. Yeah, you were thinking of Bengals, you were thinking of Chris Henry.
Starting point is 00:05:30 He never played for the Bengals. This is just Broncos, Titans, Bills for this Travis Henry. Now, Travis Henry is born October 29th, 1978, and he's born in Frostproof, Florida. Frost, say again? Frostproof, Florida. Oh, Frost again? Frost-Proof, Florida. Oh, Frost-Proof. Frost-Proof, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Yeah, is that right? Yeah, won't frost over, you can grow your oranges here. Impossible. Impossible, which it happens sometimes anyway. I believe it does. I'm gonna look up when's the last frost in Frost-Proof, Florida and I'm gonna laugh my ass off. Yeah, cause it's probably this past winter.
Starting point is 00:06:02 They called it that so people would move there and they're like, it doesn't even get cold enough to frost. This is going to be the shit. Frost proof, you guys. Frost proof, baby. So, a little bit about him. His mother's name is Carnella. With a K. Carnella.
Starting point is 00:06:18 And an N, not an M. And an N, yeah, Carnella. And she worked in the Orange Groves down there. Yeah. Yes. And he talks about, as we'll talk about his first job being in the watermelon fields. Really? So yeah, this is a, uh, agricultural area we're talking about here. Um, his father wasn't around early on, which he'll take after that and go, that's a good idea. I should have a bunch of kids and not figured it out. I should have tons of kids and not pay any attention to them.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Noted. Cool. Got that shit. And then he comes back when he starts being famous for football, as dad starts calling him. Hey, man, I've been missing you, Travis. Boy, I'll tell you what. Your mom kept me away.
Starting point is 00:06:56 No shit. So he plays football at Frostproof High. And he's going to end up, well, well basically he's got a problem here. He wants to go to Tennessee to play football, but while in high school he also fathered a child. Get out! Yes, he's got a problem. He started then?
Starting point is 00:07:18 Oh yeah, in high school he already spit a kid out. What the fuck? He said, when I was young I wanted to go to the NFL and actually I was an Alabama fan. He wanted to go play for Alabama, not Tennessee, but yeah. Um, he was parade all American, a mr. Florida football. So the best player in Florida, which is there's so much football going on down there. It's insane. Uh, as a running back at frost proof and as a senior for the football team he rushed for this is as a senior not in one season one season games 12 maybe tops
Starting point is 00:07:52 4087 yards and 42 touchdowns in 14 games what 4000 yards in 14 games he averaged what is that if you do that in the NFL that's considered 400 yards a game. At least if you do that in the NFL that's considered, you know, if you do get a thousand yards in 14 games that's considered a pretty goddamn good run. You do that for a few years in a row and you're probably gonna make the Hall of Fame. That's insane and 42 touchdowns in 14 games also. Ridiculous. So he averages, you know, they didn't do anything I have touchdowns a game. Well, why would you with him? He's just picking what the fuck Wow, you just stacked the line I guess yeah, and it's he's still busting through his team was runner-up state runner-up that year
Starting point is 00:08:37 How the fuck do you lose? I don't know. That's what I mean. Somebody else had a guy The guy throwing fucking somebody else had the John Elway equivalent probably, that's all. Wow. The only way, I don't know how you stop him. His team was state runner-up, like I said, and also he played basketball and ran track. He's only like 5'9", so he must do, he's very athletic, though, so I mean, he could probably,
Starting point is 00:08:59 he's one of those guys that's 5'9", could probably dunk. And insane fast, too. And real fucking fast. Henry was so quick. Oh, he's a fast son of a bitch. The only problem he had was a little bit of bobbles. 5'9 could probably dunk. And insane fast too. And real fucking fast. Henry was so quick. Oh, he's a fast son of a bitch. He was tough too. The only problem he had was a little bit of bobbles.
Starting point is 00:09:09 He dropped the, he'd put it on the ground a few times. He's a fumbler? Well, he was like that with a sperm too, so it works out. He can't ever control it. He can't control it. The ball, jizz, it's all going places he doesn't want it to go. Yeah, just squirting out all the time. So his oldest child was conceived while he was in high school
Starting point is 00:09:26 before he was named Mr. Football. It was obviously unplanned. He's a dad before he was named Mr. Football. It wasn't a plan to like, hey, let's start a family. We're juniors in high school. I'm really good at football, and it's not any fun unless I have a challenge. I need to be thinking thinking I gotta do this well
Starting point is 00:09:45 because I have to support somebody here. I need to not get a good night's sleep and then see if I can keep doing this. That'd be amazing. This is his big statement about it, quote, I'm like whoa, I'm gonna be a dad. Sounds like something a high schooler would say. Yeah, sounds like Keanu Reeves knocks somebody up.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I'm like whoa? Who sang like whoa well who's that guy black Rob that was black right yeah I don't know where the fuck that it was probably that was really I didn't think about it came out of my mouth that was the strangest thing ever yeah and black Rob probably was that song was probably very possible when he said or very popular when he said that. Yeah he's like like I'm like whoa. He heard it in his head. Oh shit 78 he had graduated 96 pre-Black Rob maybe Black Rob heard this and was like whoa having kids in high school like whoa. Whoa. Knockin' that cheerleader up like whoa.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Was that song 97 or 98? Was it later? I think it was like 99, 2000. I don't think it was. No, I thought it was. I'm pretty sure that was popular when I was in high school. It definitely wasn't like 97. It wasn't before 97.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Had to be after 97. You might be right. It may have been after 98 after Busta Rhymes when disaster strikes, probably after that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think it was. It was. I wanna say I remember about it. I bet it was 99, I bet you're right.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Yeah, 99 sounds right to me for some reason, because it's also, that's kinda how the music was going in that direction. Less of like the kinda old school beats and more, less of like the kind of old school beats and more, less of like the samples of the like soul shit that had like the grooving and then more into like the electronic shit. But I can still see that CD in the Best Buy thing
Starting point is 00:11:36 next to Common and, you know what I mean? Oh yeah, I know the section. Yeah. I can see in the- It's perusing. Yeah. I can see the B right next to that C. There they are together. With that same album.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Or I can think of it. Capone? Yeah, Capone would have been right there too. Yeah, probably. Yeah. I swear to fuck it was there. Cone of Noriega was 97. That was their album.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah. I think it may have been there. With the fucking LALA shit on it and all that. I don't want to Google it. But yeah. I don't have time for that shit. I don't wanna google it, but yeah. I don't have time for that shit. I don't have time for this bullshit.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Look at that fucking rap from the late 90s. What are we doing here? There's nothing to do with Travis Henry except for, whoa. Like whoa. Like whoa, man. I'm gonna be a dad. What a dummy. He sounded like he had a Reeves in parenthood, didn't he? Let any old dick be a dad. What a dummy. He sounded like Keanu Reeves in parenthood, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Let any old dick be a father. A butt reaming asshole be a father. So here's an interview that Travis Henry did with the Denver Post writer. He did it later, but it's about his younger life. It kind of goes all through his career, so we'll jump into it every once in a while. A guy named Mike Klis, K-L-I-S was the writer. He said, Florida is a football hotbed for high school talent and you were Mr. Everything in Florida football.
Starting point is 00:12:53 What was that like? What was it like being beloved? It's fucking great. Yeah, it's awesome. It was so great. I got laid so often, I left one in somebody on accident. That's how great it was. Yeah, and I'm not even that concerned about it.
Starting point is 00:13:05 That's the other thing. I have such a good future ahead of me, I'm like, I'll pay this off. It's not even a big deal. Henry said, it was crazy because it got to the point where I was in high school, but I was getting so much national attention. The big city newspapers would come out. I remember the Tampa Tribune would come out with a helicopter numerous times. It was fun.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I got a chance to get where I'm at now. Help me prepare for what I'm doing. Yeah, some fame. So they said, what was a typical summer day for Travis Henry growing up in Frostproof? And he said summer days I was either doing a summer job or lifting weights. We were getting ready to win state. He said, what was your first job? He said, working in a watermelon field. That sounds hard. I'm just gonna go, those things are down low, and then you gotta pick them up.
Starting point is 00:13:51 And they're heavy. And they're heavy. We cut the watermelons from the field and load them up on a diesel truck. Yikes. Jesus. Which is probably good workout though for you. And you have to be careful because it's the product.
Starting point is 00:14:02 You can't just swing it in there because they break, right? You gotta pick it up and set it. it's the product. You can't just swing it in there because they break. Right? You've got to pick it up and set it. That's a nightmare. And then the big diesel would take them to the grocery stores. So 1997 is his freshman year. He ends up going to Tennessee to play. So he played on the same team as Peyton Manning.
Starting point is 00:14:21 Peyton? Yeah. So I mean, that was, he was Peyton Manning's running back. No shit. Think about it. That's good for Peyton Manning. Peyton? Yeah. So I mean that was, he was Peyton Manning's running back. So no shit. Think about that. That's, that's good for Peyton Manning. He had such a good running back. So that makes it a threat. It's easier to pass. So yeah, he, he can take some credit for Peyton Manning's success. So they're 11 and two in 1997, seventh in the eight in the polls there, the AP poll. Um, Like I said, Peyton Manning, Jamal Lewis is also on this team. He's the fucking starter there.
Starting point is 00:14:49 Jamal Lewis, who is a beast as we know. With Henry backing him up? I'm going to read all the guys who played in the NFL from the team. Some of them you know, some of them you don't. But Peyton Manning, T. Martin, quarterback, Steelers drafted him, I want to say. Jamal Lewis, Sean Bryson, Philip Crosby, Travis Stevens, Travis Henry, Peerless Price, Marcus Nash, Andy McCullough, Cedric Wilson, David Martin, and there's a few more down here.
Starting point is 00:15:14 There's a ton of fucking, this is like an all NFL team basically. So that's where he decides to go. And they were seventh? How the fuck are they not the best? That's what I mean. That's the squad that was, that's crazy. He, he, for some reason here in high school or in college, he gets married. Yeah. Not to the girl he had a kid with. Oh, really? Somebody else, a woman. He's 19. He marries a 25 year old lady. And yeah, marries a 25 year old. And later on they'll have this marriage annulled,
Starting point is 00:15:47 which I don't understand how that happens because they have a child. How the fuck do you annul a marriage that a child came from? Yeah, the annulment has to be like within a certain time period, right? Usually. It's gotta be fast.
Starting point is 00:15:59 It's usually like, yeah, it didn't take and we never moved in with each other. They had a fucking kid. Once you have a kid, I mean, that's married as shit. Yeah, you married everything. You've married your DNA for Christ's sake. Yeah, at some point there's different counts on his kids, but at last count we can find,
Starting point is 00:16:16 I think it's either 10 kids by 11 mothers or 11 kids by 12 mothers, or 12 kids by 11 mothers, or 11 kids by 10 mothers. Okay. One of the two. Well, that's that's impossible. Wow. How do you do that? How did two women birth the same kid? Wow. He's his sperm is excellent. That's really so his mother didn't. Henry's mother didn't want him to get married when he was 19. Wasn't it? Yeah. You shouldn't get married, you're in college. He said she was going crazy over it and he said that he filed for an annulment within a year for my mom.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Within a year? I think it has to be like 90 days, doesn't it? A year and you had a kid? That's a marriage. That's a marriage. It just didn't work out. Failed marriage. It's not an annulment. That's crazy. That's what that is. Yeah. That's insanity that failed marriage. It's not an annulment. Yeah, that's what that is. That's crazy. That's what that is, yeah. Yeah, that's insanity that you can have all that. For my mom.
Starting point is 00:17:10 You're an adult that you just had another kid, and you're like, you gotta do this for my mom. I can't be, what the fuck? What does your mom say about you fucking just leaving another child behind now? And also, mom's motive there is probably, hey, maybe be financially smart and take care of mom and get her out of the fucking orange fields
Starting point is 00:17:29 before you just marry people and start having all these goddamn kids. Having more bills to come from. Let's change the lives of the people that changed yours. Man, so he doesn't play much in his freshman year because Jamal Lewis is the starter, and I mean, Jesus Christ, he's a monster. Don't worry, he'll go off to the NFL.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And Sean Bryson too. So he had two rushes for four yards that whole season. Really? His freshman year. A lot of guys are red-shirted their freshman year, so it makes sense. Yeah, two yards to carry, not bad. Two yards, not bad.
Starting point is 00:17:55 1998 Tennessee Volunteers, and this is the, this is Peyton Manning's senior year, 13-0 this year. Holy. And number one in the final polls and all that sort of shit. So yeah, we got Travis Henry now. He's going to play a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:18:13 He had 176 attempts this year for 970 yards, 5.5 a season. They won the national championship. And he had 176 rushing attempts for 970 yards. And did they beat Bama? They beat Florida State at the Fiesta Bowl that year. So he was in Tempe there. He had 19 rushes for 28 yards and one reception for 9 yards in the game. So he's coming along, not too shabby.
Starting point is 00:18:42 1999 Tennessee, actually 1997 was Manning senior year, wasn't it? I don't know. No, no, it would have to be, never mind. I thought he came in the 98 draft. He came out, yeah, that would have been before, after the 97. It must have been the 99 draft because Brady came 2000, right? Yes, or yes, 2000, yeah. Yeah, so I think it was like that. I think it was one and then the other, right? Damn it. Brady came in 2000. Yeah, okay, yeah, he came in 2000.
Starting point is 00:19:11 I wanna say Manning was 98 now. Yeah, I think it's 98. It was a 98 draft. Him and Ryan Lee for 98. So this squad, T. Martin was the quarterback of the undefeated team. So this year, they're nine and three, Tennessee, and they're 13th in the final poll. So this year they're nine and three Tennessee and they're 13th in
Starting point is 00:19:25 the final poll so not quite as good but no Henry is still sharing the backfield but he does have 125 carries for 790 yards and eight touchdowns average is 6.3 a carry which is pretty goddamn good. During college here sometime in between before the 2000 season in addition to his annulled marriage, quote unquote here. So he has one kid from high school, another kid from the adult annulled marriage. While he's in college, he has two more children with other people, two other people. So he goes into the NFL with three kids?
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah. Four? When someone asks him if he's got a condom he laughs hysterically for 20 minutes. Of course not. What is that? Yeah, of course not. The opposite actually. Will you at least pull out? Hell no, I'll stick it in further. I can't wear condoms and come inside you at the same time. It's not going to work for me. 2000 the Tennessee Vols here are 8-4. They lose in the Cotton Bowl to Kansas State. So you know, not the best Casey Claussen is their main quarterback. Oh no. Yeah, yeah, it's gotten gotten bad. They went from from Manning to T. Martin down to Casey Claussen.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Shit. That's terrible. He had 253 rushes for 1314 yards and 11 touchdowns, was named first team all SEC by the Associated Press and the Sporting News. He holds the school records for yards rushing with 3078 rushing attempts with 556 and 100 yard rushing performances with 15. That's almost averaging six yards a carry Over 500 carries that's crazy point to yeah over in college totally average five point five a car. That's insane That's a lot. That's great. That's Bo Jackson numbers and the NFL averaging First down every two carries Mathematically, if you just give it to this guy every play, you're going to be better. You're going to win. Yeah, that's kind of how it works. So he does all
Starting point is 00:21:28 of that. His strength and conditioning coach nicknames him. So now he's got a nickname. Cheese is his nickname. Why? Because he's as tough and as tough and strong as a block of government cheese. Cause he stinks and he holds up for a while. He won't mold. Mold resistant. That's the worst cheese on the planet. Man, that is bad after the worst cheese. Yeah. Not cause he, he aged fine like a fucking Brie or some shit.
Starting point is 00:22:03 It's no, no. Wow. Wow. Wow. So yeah, he does very well. 3,078 rushing yards in college. So he already has over 4,000 rushing, or 7,000 rushing yards in his life, and he hasn't even played in the NFL yet.
Starting point is 00:22:16 That's unreal. That's a lot. He's doing well. He said, quote, "'I look back and I appreciate the grind. "'Having guys like Jamal and Travis, "'and when you look back at it, the grind. Having guys like Jamal and Travis and when you look back at it, we were really pushing each other. In high school, you're the man
Starting point is 00:22:30 and everything goes your way. That process helped me out with the transition to the NFL because it prepared me to compete. So yeah, but the thing about the difference between the NFL and high school is that there's fucking 30, at least 32 more Your your quality or better. You're all that guy. That's the thing. You're all your mr. Football from everywhere It's a totally different deal. So you're not special here in the NFL. It's like it's been squeezed even more We've put it in the civ again and left all those chunks behind and it's only 32 of you if you're the starter.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Yeah. So for the combine he is five nine and one eighths inch 223 pounds. My God that is a stocky son of a bitch right there. No kidding. And he's he's fucking athletic. So for a guy to be that stocky, he's really in shape He has a four point six one forty yard dash, which isn't lightning fast for a running back But he's a more of a power runner. Anyway, he's a yeah if you're five nine two twenty three. That's pretty fucking good It's not it's shoulders. He's very top-heavy. Absolutely. Oh, big shoulders here. Big old shoulders on him. And a 35 and a half inch vertical leap. So he's 5'9", 223 pounds and gets off the ground three feet. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Unbelievable. That ain't too fucking shabby at all. Very good. He got a nine on the Wonderlic, which is not good. Out of like a hundred, right? It's a 50. Out of 50. He got a nine.
Starting point is 00:24:03 That is, remember we did the Wonderlic scores the one time and it was, that nine range is not a good range. It's a bunch of dumb guys in that range. That's crazy dumb. This guy doesn't, well he doesn't even figure, he hasn't figured out condoms yet, so. Yeah, I was gonna, he can't operate rolling something down. Down his penis.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And then keeping it on until after ejaculation. He hasn't figured that out. He's like, I fucked for a while, but I take it off when I'm going to come. It feels better. I got you're defeating the purpose. You're defeating the purpose Travis Henry. That's hilarious. Yup. 2001 NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:24:39 Here we go. 2001. 2001 NFL draft. By the way, the MVP that year of the league, Kurt Warner. Yes, the offensive player of the year, Marshall Falk, defensive player of the year, Michael Strahan. Wow. Rushing leader that year, Priest Holmes.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Remember him? Yeah. When was he good? He was real good. Receiving leader, David Boston. Remember David Boston on the Cardinals? Was he receiving leader at Arizona? The NFL. Yeah. I think so. Yeah, because after that, he washed out receiving leader at Arizona? The NFL, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I think, yeah, because after that he washed out of the league and he had all those fucking steroids, cops, fucking bullshit. He had a lot of problems, David Boston. He was fighting people. He was big too. Oh, he's a big stocky son of a bitch. He was on a lot of shit. Okay, number one draft pick in the 2001 NFL draft.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Jimmy, number one overall. It was a quarterback. It is a quarterback. In 2001. God damn it. overall it was a quarterback it is a quarterback in 2001 god damn it oh it's not oh my god was it was this oh it's the Browns he'll have an episode no no that's 99 99 that's how pain no Peyton Manning was 98 99 was couch I don't know who it is he's a quarterback who will have an episode of this show oh boy to. To give you a hint. Well then go on god damn it. Michael Vick! Who actually... Is that right? This was almost Michael Vick this show. Really? Yes because I'm like well I mean that lady shot her dog so people are talking about fucking dogs. Maybe I'll
Starting point is 00:26:00 fucking... Oh that won't end the career. You don't think so people you know now now no I don't think so It was almost Michael Vick this week So it wasn't so Michael Vick number one overall. That's that's such a shame too with him because I loved him He was so good Lightning fucking fire. He was such a electric player. Everything he did was amazing. Yeah, he was lightning in the bottle. From running to throwing to fucking breaking tackles. He was so great.
Starting point is 00:26:31 If only he'd have been a cannon for an arm. If only he had a fucking heart. If only he had been a fucking dipshit. He wasn't a goddamn monster. Yeah, literally just the worst shit you can think of. Oh, God. The dogs and he's doing it. Number two overall, Leonard Davis from
Starting point is 00:26:45 the Cardinals, another mediocre draft pick for them. They're Gerald Warren, three Justin Smith, LaDani and Tomlinson number five. Man, he's so good. So four people, four teams said, nah, don't want him. That is unbelievable. Yep. Richard Seymour, number six. So Hall of Famer, Hall of Famer, five and six there. Andre Carter, David Terrell, I'm the wide receiver. I remember him. Corrin Robinson. Oh yeah, I'm remembering all these people here. Santana Moss. What a great draft. Guard for the Seattle Seahawks, Steve Hutchinson, who's a Hall of Famer, was also drafted. Number 17. Deuce McAllister, Will Allen, Nate Clements, Adam Archuleta.
Starting point is 00:27:26 A lot of good players in this draft, actually. Todd Hippocrap is in there. Reggie Wayne. Drew Brees, first pick of the second round. Oh my God, the whole shit face. Remember the Chargers got Drew Brees and LaDanie and Tomlinson. In the same draft.
Starting point is 00:27:41 The same fucking time, yeah. That's not bad here. Travis Henry is drafted number 58 overall, second round by the Buffalo Bills. Wow. Yep. And right behind him was Marcus Tuiasasopu and in front of him. I'm trying to think. Oh, Quincy Carter went in front of him. There you go. A few spots.
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Starting point is 00:29:45 Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple podcasts. Yeah, interesting. Anybody go after him that was any good here? Let's find out. Oh, Steve Smith went in the third round. That's a good one, yeah. Wide receiver. Great fucking wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:29:57 He's pretty good. So some decent guys. So now he's an NFL player. He's got four kids already at 22 and he's not he's not a guaranteed money guy early like that you know I mean second round that's not good second round you don't have a baby it's better than me but yeah not a giant signing bonus or anything like that I'm 43 and I don't have four kids so that's the thing see you don't have four kids under the age of five at this moment
Starting point is 00:30:24 time whereas he does. That's a nightmare. That's a fucking disaster. So I'm gonna say, grace at this point. It's a big day. It's all going well for him. Let's find out how it goes. Well, he's going to the 2001 Buffalo Bills,
Starting point is 00:30:36 so right there is a big step down. That sucks, yeah. But he's used to winning a lot. He's going to the Buffalo Bills. Did they have McGahey then? That was right. Or was he still in fucking Baltimore? He was in Miami. McGahey is the next guy.
Starting point is 00:30:48 Miami. Yeah. I mean, he was still in college at Miami, McGahey. Oh, really? Yeah. He didn't come out until 2002 or 2003, I think. So that means Henry gets to start if he's good. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:30:58 And this year, they're 3 in 13, the Bills. They need help. Oh, they need him. So bad. They need lots of help everywhere. They suck. They're fucking terrible. This year, this is a bad squad. Let's see. They have Travis Brown at quarterback. Oh, yeah. I know. Oh, Rob. They're about to get Drew Bledsoe. Yeah. Rob Johnson is their main starter with eight starts there as well. Not good. Not good at all. Not good
Starting point is 00:31:24 at all. Say not at all. Not at all. Clements is going to start right away also because he's a good, a good fucking player here. Who else do they have as their quarterback? I'm trying to pick. Oh, Alex van Pelt is another van Pelt started eight and Rob Johnson started eight games. Oh my God. Yeah, that's not, not good at all. So that's, that's who we're rolling with That's why they're three and thirteen this year and fucking terrible He okay. I'll wait till we talk about I'll talk about the season a little bit and then he gets into some trouble here Not as much as he should have been in for what he did but yeah, okay
Starting point is 00:32:00 He makes his professional debut week one against the Saints. He starts the game starting in week one that They that's a bad team. They need fucking help. He had 22 carries for 58 yards They got crushed by the Saints 24 to 6 in the following game another loss 42 26 to the Colts he scored his first touchdown and He had his first hundred yard game against the Jets in week four in another loss. So well, that's a good statement starting out, though. It's not terrible. He is rookie year here.
Starting point is 00:32:33 He starts 12 games. That's not bad. Has 213 attempts for 729 yards and four touchdowns. Three point four carry. Not terrific, but this offensive line's a fucking disaster. It's a 3-13 team. You're not going to do much here. So in the middle of the season, he gets in trouble and he is sentenced to 100 hours of community service. For what?
Starting point is 00:32:58 Okay. I can't imagine this is 100 hours of community service of a crime. What do you think he did for 100 hours of community service? Reckless driving? That is a littering of an epic proportion. He had a quote unquote consensual relationship, or consensual sexual encounter, quote unquote, with a 15 year old girl. What? You can't have consensual sex with a sophomore.
Starting point is 00:33:26 It's not possible. Not in New York State. No, not in this country, I'm pretty sure. In most places, a 15 year old sophomore relationship is not consensual, no matter what. She can't, she's not allowed to say that. She's not allowed to want your penis. And you're not allowed, even no matter how bad she does,
Starting point is 00:33:42 you're not allowed to put it in her. Are you sure this happened? It's in the newspaper. 100 hours of community service for having consensual sex with a 15-year-old girl, I guess because they didn't want to press charges and nobody wanted to cooperate. So they were like, I don't know, he's famous, fuck it. I think this is, famous people are,
Starting point is 00:34:01 every fuck, that's silver-haired. Every time we talk about somebody, you know, that's, there's somebody, they're Every time we talk about somebody, you know, that's, there's somebody, they're like, how do they get that little of a sentence for that? Well, there you go. Cause he owns a football team. Yeah, Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:34:13 He's doing pretty well. He makes $209,000 base salary. Total cash paid to him with bonus and everything this year, $1,189,000. Not bad. Which he probably owes most of in child support by now. Well, he owes at least, I don't know, 30% of that probably in fucking taxes. He's got some problems, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:34 He's got that going on. Right out of the gate. So 2002, the bills are eight and eight, much better. Much better at eight and eight, not bad at all. I mean, that's better than three and fucking 10 or three and 13. So yeah, this year is when they get Drew Bledsoe. So that's why he starts all 16 games, stabilizes everything a little bit here. This year, Travis plays in all 16 games, 325 carries for 1,438 yards.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Oh, 4.4 a carry. Now we're talking 13 touchdowns and he's a pro bowler. How did they do that? Drew Bledsoe quarterback. They got a decent quarterback in there. Turned it right the fuck around. If you're not afraid of the quarterback, you can put eight in the box and fucking crush the running
Starting point is 00:35:19 game. That's the issue. You got it with Bledsoe. Super blitz all the way around the corner every time. Bledsoe, if you put those deep guys one on one, he can throw that far and fucking get it to them. So you're in trouble. He scored his first receiving touchdown
Starting point is 00:35:35 on a 26-yard reception from Bledsoe to win a game against the Bears. And yeah, he had 159 yards in a game against the Texans and won offensive player of the week. So not bad. He's doing well. Total cash paid to him this year, $300,000. Because now it's his base salary.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Yeah, he's just getting, oh. He's on a second round draft pick, low second round draft pick rookie contract. So not a lot. This is not that lucrative. 300 grand and 10% 10% to you know For you got your agent you got your lawyer at this one 1,400 yards for 1,400 yards. Yeah So 2003 they go six and ten the bills back to not doing so hot here
Starting point is 00:36:17 I don't know why drew blood so still there playing all 16 games Travis starts 15 games has Bledsoe still there playing all 16 games. Travis starts 15 games, has 1,356 rushing yards this year, 4.1 per carry, 10 touchdowns. He makes $689,000 there. Okay. So, not only that, sometime in early 2004, he fathers another son out of wedlock with a woman named Jamisha Beekham. He doesn't have enough money to have five kids. He does not, especially not ones that live in his house. No.
Starting point is 00:36:50 This is like pay for living expenses for all of them, not I pay for a house and they all live in it. You know what I mean? He needs to pay for five separate fucking houses now. There's a lot of households to support. None of these are with the same woman either. It's not even like he can consolidate any. All five of these women are probably gonna want their fair share there too.
Starting point is 00:37:08 And you know, you don't get a kid every time you fuck. So how much sex does this guy have in? Either he's got him lined up down the hall or he is just super sperm like just the most virile son of a bitch in the world. Yeah, he gets fucked five times and has five kids. That's amazing. Yeah, he's like, God damn it again. I wore a condom this happened. Of course, I do it every time. Shit.
Starting point is 00:37:32 2004, Bills are nine and seven. They got a new head coach, Mike Malarkey there. And yeah, again, Drew Bledsoe, still the quarterback. He has played all 16 games in every season here. He is injured for the later part of the year and ends up losing his starting job because they drafted Willis McGahey this year. So, in week eight, Willis McGahey takes over. Travis only appears in five or in 10 games because he's injured and he only starts five games.
Starting point is 00:38:03 And McGahey was so good, right out of the gate too. Which was wild, because he had that ACL injury, that's why he didn't come in until week eight. Remember, he was out the first part of the year. So he only starts five games, 94 attempts, 326 yards this year, so not good for him. He did not want to be a backup and demanded a trade. I don't want to fucking be a sir. I'm a 1400 yard guy I'm trying to play for a new contract and you guys put me on the bench. So you're a
Starting point is 00:38:33 $300,000 a year guy. Yeah. Well, he wants to be more. Well, he's a 1400 yard guy though Yeah, so he's like if you let me play numbers out. He's gonna make that money He's gonna make it his next contract But if this guy started now what the fuck's he gonna do? So he's gotta go prove himself. He makes 750 grand that year. It's not so bad. Not so bad.
Starting point is 00:38:52 He, July 19th, 2005, the Bills acquiesce and trade him to the Tennessee Titans. So, you're gonna trade him to the Titans who are four and 12 that year. Oh God, he loves going to shit-ass teams. another bad fucking team now, but the fact that Tennessee wants him because he's a Tennessee Yeah, volunteer superstar. So that's they want the Tennessee guys down there and that team They're about to turn that motherfucker around aren't they? I think well they had just come from being good Yes, they were for the Super Bowl and they were good
Starting point is 00:39:22 I think they're gonna get okay again, and then Steve McNair is gonna get shot and that's gonna be that Oh Steve McNair is gonna get murdered and that's gonna be the end of it. Yeah fucking bitch. We did it We did a patreon and the murder of Steve McNair and we're like you fucking asshole. What a bitch bitch Don't shoot him. You ruined so much. Why did you kill him? That was fucked up. So that's what he does. September 27th, 2005, he is going to be suspended for a substance abuse violation. That's right. He's a weed guy. He's a weed guy.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Absolutely. So Jeff Fisher declined to comment. No comment at all. Then later on though, Fisher said the league negotiated or notified the titans of the suspension but didn't have any specifics about the violation or Travis' appeal. Jeff Fisher says, quote, Travis is extremely regretful for his actions, for his choices and for his decisions. He's a grown man who smoked weed.
Starting point is 00:40:21 It's not the end of the world. It's they're acting like he ate a baby, like on TV. He killed his dog. Shot it for no reason. His choices and his decisions, James? Choices, decisions, actions, all of it. Ideas. Ideas, his penis also.
Starting point is 00:40:38 He's extremely regretful what he's done with his penis. Too many kids already. Choices and decisions. Choices, decisions. Act there of all of it. You know, things of that nature. He says, it has affected him personally, his family, and obviously has hurt this football team.
Starting point is 00:40:54 We will in all likelihood make a move over the next couple days to replace Travis on the roster. Oh my God. For the time he's out at least. They gotta get somebody. Yeah, because they don't know how long he's out. Yeah, so I guess he gets suspended without pay, which I guess helps their salary cap.
Starting point is 00:41:09 So they were excited about that. They were like, well, at least it helps our salary cap. We can hire somebody else. Yeah, it takes a couple of fucking games off of our shit there. Fisher said they asked the league officials about Henry before the trade, and were only told that he was in a league mandated program.
Starting point is 00:41:25 So they didn't know because it's like you first time you just have to go to counseling when the second time you're suspended. So they didn't know where he was on the chart, how far along is he as far as being suspended. And Fisher said at that point, we felt that Travis was in the program and things were moving along well. Obviously, no one really knows what took place between now and then. What we do is, what we do know is Will be without his services for the next four weeks. Right. Yep. And they said, will his participation in the program mean that the suspension punished a second violation? And he said, that's not necessarily correct. We don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So while on suspension, he's allowed to attend meetings and work out at the headquarters, but you know, that's it. Now, he didn't get suspended by the league for getting convicted of having sex with a 15-year-old girl. That was fine. That was fine. Do your community service. He had weed in his system four weeks. Oh my God, we don't know what's wrong with this guy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah, the NFL didn't have its head up its ass at all, right? Penifilia proclivities. Yeah. Fine. Fine. That's between him and the courts. That's between him, the state, the courts, and that girl's fucking dad. Outside of that, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:42:42 And the governor. And the stork because he didn't knock her up somehow. So he says, we expect Travis to get help, fully comply with the league requirements as far as the suspension is concerned. That would include testing, counseling, et cetera, et cetera. It's weed. We expect him to get help.
Starting point is 00:43:01 To do all the gets and help. My only hope is that Travis will be in the best football shape of his life in four weeks. Oh my God. So he's reinstated, obviously, a little while later, a week later or a month later. He does make $1,122,951 that year. And he took four weeks off.
Starting point is 00:43:19 That's not so bad. Four weeks off and he only played 10 games and he started one game, 88 carries, 335 yards. For a million dollars. For over 1.1 mil he got for that. That's not bad. I think I could run for my life for 88 yards. I'll try.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I'll certainly try. I'll certainly give it a look-see, you know what I'm saying? Let's see if I can't get around the edge a couple of times. Who wants to give us a shot here? Let's do it. I might dive it through the middle of the, dive under the legs of a tackle. You might get two yards at a time.
Starting point is 00:43:49 We'll give it a try. I mean, I'm pretty tall, play wide receiver. Maybe I can. They're like six, eight. I can all squeeze through their fucking hips. Go underneath them. I think I can do it for 88 yards. I'll definitely try.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Oh, 88 carries, 88 carries, yeah. How many yards? 3.5 a carry it is. Okay. I'll definitely try. Oh, 88 carries. 88 carries, yeah. How many yards? 3.5 a carry it is. OK, so. 3.8 a carry. So you don't have to actually get somewhere. Almost 400 yards? Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah, no, no. I don't know if I can do that. I'll take it 88 times. I'm not guaranteeing any results. How about that? Give me the ball 88 times, and I'll try. I'll try hard. That's 250 for 100 yards, though.
Starting point is 00:44:24 That's not bad. It's not a very good payday It's pretty decent 2006 Titans are eight and eight this year. So yeah still having some problems He is he plays 14 games starts 13 has 270 carries for 1211 yards 4.5 a carry now So he's back to pretty good baseline Travis Henry and he makes eight hundred twenty thousand dollars this year. Wow. For the beating you take this is not lucrative enough. No and because of the way contracts go the money's staggered and weird like that you can do fucking great and make two hundred thousand dollars then you put up decent numbers make eight hundred thousand
Starting point is 00:45:00 dollars and it's just because it's just based on what you're what you're worth that year. NFL running backs unless you you're a first-rounder, which they don't draft a lot of them in the first round anymore because they're like, ah, we'll just pick one up later. They're considered just garbage that you pick up and throw away. That is just not enough money. Have you ever seen an old running back walk? It looks like it hurts. There's like three different limps going on.
Starting point is 00:45:23 Watch OJ walk. It's like, however they got to wherever they're at, it looks like they rode a dog. Yeah, and they're like, oh, I don't know what's my equilibrium's all fucked up. What's happening? They're all fucked up looking. Hips and fucking knees are all messed up. So 820, I mean, when you think about how much money you'll actually retain once you can't walk right anymore, it's not enough. And once you've paid for what you've gotta pay for. That's what I mean. Prescriptions, surgeries, everything. It's gonna be.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And now you gotta go to work somewhere. Fuckin' limping. Yeah, cause you got no goddamn money. You gotta limp. House might be paid off, but you gotta pay the fuckin' maintenance on that monstrosity. You gotta pay that.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Not to mention, how many kids do you have? Yeah, insurance, taxes on it, you got kids to feed, put them through college, oh my God. So March 3rd, 2007, the Titans released Travis to avoid paying him the bonus they have to pay him. Ah! Because he has one of those contracts where if he's on the roster on this day,
Starting point is 00:46:19 it's a roster bonus. Yeah, he gets money, yeah. So no. So they release him. Apparently, they released him on Saturday after negotiations failed to rework a contract that contained an $8.3 million bonus due on Monday. They released him to not pay $8.3 million. No, they didn't. No, but they were in negotiations and it fell through because he wanted the $8.3 million.
Starting point is 00:46:42 He wanted the $8.3 million and they wanted to renegotiate the contract so they didn't have to pay him the 8.3 and rather than have to pay him it, they just released him. Which, he was counting on 8.3. So he's been playing for his whole life and it's gone. Oh my God. So, yep, he was flying to Denver to talk with the Broncos
Starting point is 00:47:01 but the Titans remained hopeful that they could lure him back at some point. They want to be able to sign him, but they just didn't. Yeah, for 8.3, guys. You can get me. Yeah, how about that? How about an 8.3 bonus? How about that?
Starting point is 00:47:11 About earned that ballpark? That's where I'm at. I was like, whoa, that's a lot of money. Like whoa. The Titans were like, whoa. Like, whoa. Sit down. Too much.
Starting point is 00:47:21 So they said, we have not closed the door on Travis and we're continuing to talk but today was a trigger date for a roster bonus that we were unwilling to pay and they knew that a Strong run game is important as an important part of what the team is about and Travis can be a big part of that Over the next couple days. We'll continue to work on the right deal for both of us. Oh Man, so I yeah the Titans said they wanted to keep him, but, meh, who knows here. Not at that price. Not at that price. So March 6th, 2007, the Broncos sign him instead.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Yeah, they did. He was pissed off that they did that to him, and I don't blame him, honestly. I don't blame him either. I get it. They made a deal to pay him that, and they're like, oh, we just won't pay him that when the time comes. He's about to equally frustrate me when he squirts the ball at the fucking 19 on, oh fucking charcoal. They were terrible anyway, it didn't matter
Starting point is 00:48:07 whether he was bubbling or not, they were awful. Still the feel could when they've got a drive going and he throws a fucking steal. They didn't have a quarterback anyway, so he would have thrown an interception, it didn't matter. It was just, he was just part of the mix at that point. That was sad, I remember that. That was a really depressing time.
Starting point is 00:48:21 Yeah, football, whenever you hear about, I see people complaining all the time about the money that quarterbacks get in signing bonuses and shit like that. You have to, because the NFL will not pay you the money that they agree to pay you. These contracts are, they can get out of them any time they want, and you're stuck in it. So that's how they work.
Starting point is 00:48:39 Unless you are a superstar performing incredibly, they don't give a shit. You're gone. Any of you, if you had that contract at work, you'd be horrified and you'd be living in terror every day of your fucking life. So it's horrible, it's a bad way to do it. Was this fucking Thiebaud in 2007? Was he there or was it away?
Starting point is 00:48:58 We'll find out here in a second, but that's even worse because fucking Thiebaud was the worst goddamn quarterback that's ever played in this fucking league. I can throw the ball better than Tim Thiebaud. That's fucking sad. And the Patriots did that on purpose. I still in my heart believe that 100% that Belichick has unleashed that piece of shit McDaniels on AFC teams on purpose. I really think that. That's possible. He's like the, this is a wrestling reference. He's the Vince Russo. They sent him in to go.
Starting point is 00:49:27 There's all the rumors, it's always been the conspiracy theory that Vince Russo was sent to WCW to ruin them and so then Vince ended up buying him after he crashed him in the ground. I would not be surprised. This son of a bitch goes to teams and reworks them and ruins them for five, six years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fucking, I hate him so much.
Starting point is 00:49:43 And why they keep giving him a chance. He releases a plague rat into the locker room and just like. That's Josh McDaniels. And he's the fucking worst. He's a monster. Josh plague rat McDaniels. That's nice. What a piece of shit. How the NFL keeps that guy around. I have no idea. No shit. So it's a five year deal with the Broncos with 12 million dollars in guaranteed bonuses. So they have to pay him those. That's okay. That's a pretty good deal.
Starting point is 00:50:10 That's good. Yeah, he's happy about that here. The Broncos didn't announce the signing. It was disclosed by somebody here. I guess they got rid of Tatum Bell, who was the running back before that. Oh, and he another one that was a fucking squirt machine. He was a fumble machine. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:50:24 That's why he was gone. They brought in another one so fast and you know what that's a great point though that they are Interchangeable as fuck. They're the same guy Some just one just one drops the ball less Less fumbly. That's it. Yeah, so August 30th 2007 He's got some some problems with child support judgments against him He's got some problems with child support judgments against him. He's not paying. He's not paying his shit here. Yeah, apparently the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that court documents in Georgia in
Starting point is 00:50:53 a child support case show that he fathered, at this point in his life, by 2007, nine children by nine women in four different southern states. Holy. He is repopulating the Confederacy all by himself. Holy shit. He's been ordered to pay child support for seven of them. I don't know why not the other two. Yeah, what's the matter with that?
Starting point is 00:51:18 Considered worthy of them. He had to borrow money from the Titans to fulfill one of the judgments at the time. That's how he was borrowing money from the team to pay child support so he didn't have to go to jail. So he could fucking play. Robin Peter to pay Paul, literally. Yeah, Robin, yeah, Tennessee to pay fucking Jamisha or whatever her name was. Or Travis. Or Travis.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Last week a judge in DeKalb County, Georgia ordered Henry to provide $3,000 a month and fund a $250,000 trust by the spring for a boy he fathered out of wedlock three years ago with Jamisha Beecham. Come on! $250,000. $250,000 trust. In case he... In three grand a month.... And three grand a month.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Okay. Three grand a month. Look, I understand children. Your responsibilities? Yes. That's insane. What does that kid need that kind of money for? That seems like a lot, but it's also an NFL football player.
Starting point is 00:52:18 He's got nine kids, James. And he just signed a contract that gives him $12 million in guaranteed bonuses. I think that's what this is. She was going for it and the judge said, well, he has it. They gave it to him. He can do it. I mean, whatever. Man.
Starting point is 00:52:33 So 2007 Broncos, there's seven and nine, more Mike Shanahan here. And yeah, this team just not... Who's the quarterback? Jay Cutler is the quarterback. Yeah, that's right. That was a bad decision again. Yeah he had all the tools and none of the brain so that worked out real well. Fucking terrible neck beard. Fuck yeah we got John Lynch on this team, Brandon Marshall another alum, CIS alum here. Brandon Stokely on that team. Oh that that's right. He was good too. After the Colts.
Starting point is 00:53:05 So September 10th, 2007, he's got a court date, nothing major, but it's just him. He was parked in a handicapped spot with no sticker, so he has to go. You couldn't be less handicapped than a guy rushing for fucking 1,400 yards in the NFL. He can so get to any store from any parking space. It's ridiculous. And enough energy left over to impregnate nine women. Yeah, who knows how many women he impregnates on the way to the store?
Starting point is 00:53:37 We don't know. What an impatient fuck he's parking in the handicaps. He's just entitled. I'm an entitled asshole. I'll impregnate every nine different women. I'll park in fucking handicapped spots. He's just entitled. I'm an entitled asshole. I'll pregnant nine different women. I'll park in fucking handicapped spots. I play for the football team here. I'll do what I want.
Starting point is 00:53:50 I do what I need. So more from that interview with the Denver Post. This is from September 2007, so from this exact time. And the guy says, it's nobody's business, but, which is a funny way to start it. But I'd like to pry into your business. It's nobody's business, but would you like to tell all the readers of the greater Denver area your personal business?
Starting point is 00:54:09 That's what he basically says. But a few weeks ago there was a story about you having children out of wedlock. I can't imagine you were pleased to have your personal life outed like that. Well if you're a public figure and you have nine kids by nine women you have to expect that might come up. Pretty interesting. It's fucking hilarious, sorry. He says, let me put it like this. I love how he starts off.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Oh, boy. That's like the more professional version of what had happened was. Let me put it like this. Yeah. I know people who are in similar situations. I know players who are in the same situation I've been in. They have nine kids by nine women.
Starting point is 00:54:47 You do? Wow. Who are they? Yeah. Tell us their names because we need more material. We know Antonio Cramardi and that other guy. That's all we know. That's it.
Starting point is 00:54:59 And Sean Kemp, who didn't even play in the NFL, but he's out there. He said, I wasn't worried about it coming out. I didn't like the way they went about it. That's what hurt me about it. Hurt you? He said I got a lot of phone calls from players I know. I'm not going to say any names but they were saying I've got kids and nothing was said because there's not nine of them and they're not taking you to court. That's why. Yeah because you're not paying, you're not funding a $250,000 trust. Wow. Yeah, that's new.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Just in case you don't pay it, because that's what that is. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's that. Plus, you're going to take care of him in the future, too. It's a college fund and everything else. He said, I don't want to comment any more about it. It's my business. I'm a good father.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Really? I'm a good father. How the... I take care of my kids is the next line. Of course it is. First of all, if your court orders you to, you do, number one. And you don't really, because we'll find out that no matter what they say, you still don't do it.
Starting point is 00:55:55 And you can't be a good father to nine kids in nine different houses. You can't. No. You can't be a good father to nine kids in one house. If you were married to one lady and you all lived in the same house and you had nine fucking kids, you are a terrible father to most of them. You pick two of your favorites and you let the rest of the chips fall where they fucking may. That's what people do. And how do you say that cliche stupid shit line, 10 years after Chris Rock already made
Starting point is 00:56:20 fun of it? Yes, that's the other thing. I take care of my kids. You idiot. You're supposed Yeah, you're supposed to take care of your kids. You dumb motherfucker. Exactly. That's what it is, but he doesn't. That's the other thing. No, of course not.
Starting point is 00:56:32 It's scattered around the fucking South. How could he? You live in Denver and one lives in DeKalb County. You're not even, it's halfway across the fucking country. Well, there's none of them that you can't be. None of them live in Denver, do they? I don't think so. I mean, maybe he's knocked somebody up in Denver.
Starting point is 00:56:48 Maybe four or five of them. If he's been there for a minute, he's got somebody pregnant probably. Vesectomy, Travis, vasectomy. He said, I just didn't like the way people tried to make it out, make me out to be somebody I'm not. Those people don't know me. Nobody knows what I've been through. Nine women is what you've been through. Yeah, mad pussy. That knows what I've been through What nine?
Starting point is 00:57:06 Bad pussy that's what you've been plowing your way through. We know what you've been through. We're very well aware pussy in court dates We get it So the guy says can I let bronco fans know you financially support your children and have a relationship with them." And he said, most definitely. Please tell them. He literally said, can I let them know that? I'm trying to fluff you up as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:57:35 This is a fluff piece, Travis. My hair is turning silver before your very eyes. Please. I beg you, tell everybody. Don't stop telling people. He said, I've got something I'm going to do this season to solidify all that what the fuck does that mean? He's gonna do the Ronald McDonald house and move them all in what the fuck he's talking about. He's about to fund nine trusts. Yeah He said but that's my private business. I'm gonna keep it private not so fast Travis because we're gonna talk all about it
Starting point is 00:58:02 Guy said that's cool. I hear you so fast Travis because we're gonna talk all about it. Guy said that's cool I hear you and Travis said you can call my mama and ask her how I am with all my kids and she'll tell you. My mama she's the most reliable source you're gonna find here. The person that loves me the most will say the nicest things about me probably. Probably not the court reporter but your mama. What about the judge? How about the judge? Let's hear about that. She says, the reporter says, if there's one thing I've learned through the interviewing all these stars on top of the world, it's that the top doesn't seem like it's all that
Starting point is 00:58:34 great. Right. She's got some down, more money, more problems. He said- Yeah, if you want to rock and roll. Travis said, most of my life I always wanted to be this icon, a football star, and it's funny. I signed this big contract, this is my seventh year, and out of all this time now they want
Starting point is 00:58:52 to dig deep. It's funny, but that's the way it is. The most famous you are. Is it funny? It's not funny at all. It's how it works, man. Yeah, because if you worked at fucking IKEA, you wouldn't you wouldn't make 12 million dollars and no one fucking care What you did with your kids, but and if you did make 12 million dollars at Ikea
Starting point is 00:59:09 Everybody at Ikea is gonna wonder how the fuck you got there And when they when they wonder that they start digging and asking questions how the fuck did he get here? Oh, well, there are nine kids in its wake. That's how it got here. That's Yeah, that's how it got here. Yeah He said let's talk Denver. Have you got yourself settled in? got here. That's it. Yeah, that's how it got here. Yeah. He said, let's talk Denver. Have you got yourself settled in? And he said, I bought myself a town home. I'm settling in right now. I'm just focused on football because I know the team is supporting me. I know coach Shanahan has got my back. He reassured me of that.
Starting point is 00:59:39 So I just want to go out and help this team win. They say, what do you like to do in your time away from Dove Valley? He says, I like bowling. That's it? Yeah, because all my kids like it. Yeah, well, the way I do it, it's like one pin for each kid. So I try to, oh, damn it, little Tammy's still standing. Fuck, he names all the pins after his kids.
Starting point is 01:00:01 It's the one thing that all of us can do together. Yeah, everybody's enough room for us in a fucking venue. An entire bowling alley. He's got to get a fucking like a short bus to pick all his kids up if he wants to do anything with them. Yeah, there's no nine seaters. He has to drive a 12 passenger van to be able to drive. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Not even the moms. The moms got to drive their own cars. Oh, they can't come with. They can't. It's got to be a, it's a convoy of two passenger vans. Just get a school bus.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Travis's family. Nancy's love story could have been ripped right out of the pages of one of her own novels. She was a romance mystery writer who happens to be married to a chef. But this story didn't end with a happily ever after. When I stepped into the kitchen, I could see that Chef Brophy was on the ground.
Starting point is 01:00:49 And I heard somebody say, call 911. As writers, we'd written our share of murder mysteries. So when suspicion turned to Dan's wife, Nancy, we weren't that surprised. The first person they look at would be the spouse. We understand that's usually the way they do it. But we began to wonder, had Nancy gotten so wrapped up in her own novels.
Starting point is 01:01:08 There are murders in all of the books. That she was playing them out in real life? You can listen to Happily Never After, Dan and Nancy, early and ad free right now, by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts. If you're listening to this podcast, by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple podcasts. Mr. Bolland's Medical Mysteries. And as the name suggests, it's a show about medical mysteries, a genre that many fans have been asking us to dive into for years, and we finally decided to take the plunge and the show is awesome.
Starting point is 01:01:52 In this free weekly show, we explore bizarre unheard of diseases, strange medical mishaps, unexplainable deaths, and everything in between. Each story is totally true and totally terrifying. Go follow Mr. Bolland's Medical Mysteries wherever you get your podcasts. And if you're a Prime member, you can listen early and ad free on Amazon Music. He said, I'm a typical guy who likes video games. I like to shoot pool. I like going to the movies. I like to eat spaghetti for my meals. All of them. All you eat is spaghetti.
Starting point is 01:02:24 He's a 15 year old boy, James. I'm surprised he didn't say, I like to eat fucking spaghetti O's for all my meals. I also want to say, I like to spend time with my girlfriend. Oh, watch out. Your womb is in deep trouble. It is about to be penetrated. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:39 We spend a lot of time together. Not your kids in there anywhere. In all of those things, did you hear doing doing... If you have nine kids and someone says, what do you do in your free time? All these fucking kids! That's what I do! Everything! Are you kidding me? Holy shit! Just drop them off! A whole bunch of fucking hobbies that he has. I don't know how. A bunch of shit that people with no kids do. Bowling, video games. You have nine kids! Spending time with my girlfriend? Shooting pool, going to the movies. Who with no kids do. Bowling, video games. You have nine kids. Spending time with my girlfriend?
Starting point is 01:03:06 Shooting pool, going to the movies. Who with nine kids gets to go to the movies and shoot pool and shit? How do you have an hour and a half of unabridged free time? That's it. The only thing that's normal for a person with nine kids is eating spaghetti, because that's all they can afford normally.
Starting point is 01:03:22 I've got two kids. I haven't watched a fucking solid movie straight in years. I watch it 30 minutes at a time. Yeah. I'm going to pause this. You won't till they're adults. Till they get the fuck out of here. They say, well, what's your bowling average?
Starting point is 01:03:39 That's what's the most important thing here. He says, I'm about a 175. It's something I try to keep up. That's pretty good, 175. Is it? It's not bad for a non, like a non-professional bowler. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, I guess 180, yeah, 180.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Unless you're in like a league and you play three times a week or something. Bowling 210 or something. For a casual bowler, that's not bad. Yeah, it's not bad. Not too terrible. Next question, you cook your own spaghetti? I'm glad they're hitting him with the...
Starting point is 01:04:04 They're really digging deep. Yeah, the deep digging, hard hitting questions here. Barbara Walters, move aside! Do you boil water? Is that your thing? Do you boil water? He said, yeah, I make real good spaghetti. I try to make it every week.
Starting point is 01:04:17 I try to make it every Thursday night. Yeah, so how do you do it, Travis? Is it noodles in a box and sauce in a jar? Because I know it is I think it's prego. Yeah. It a hundred percent is. I think it's prego. Got any business interests outside football? Yeah, they're all I mean I invest in these children Nine kids. Hoping one of these nine can pick up the pace because I need some money too. No shit man He says my main focus is on football, but I have ventured out into doing some things
Starting point is 01:04:47 I'd like to do after football. Properties, the real estate business, that's hilarious. In 2007? In 2007. Oh no. Yeah. And what he ends up really doing after football is even funnier. It's a better investment, more surefire investment, let me tell you.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Better real estate in 2007. Better than that. He said, this season I worked on some stories with former players who are in tough shape physically and financially. This is the reporter obviously. I guess the moral of their story is keep an eye on that portfolio.
Starting point is 01:05:17 You're going to play a while, but life without football will be here before you know it. And he says, okay, I'm gonna do it in their own words here on this one. This'll be fun. So he says, okay I'm gonna do it in their own words here on this one, this will be fun. So he says in their own words, quote, I know I can't believe this is the third game of the year already. I know some players who are out of the game too and I've already blown my share of money. I know how it is and I've learned a lot from it. I'm just glad I got another opportunity to come here and sign a big contract or whatever.
Starting point is 01:05:45 I've been blessed because I know it isn't forever. I'm preparing myself. I'm focusing on what I have to focus on right now, and that's football. But at the end, I'm going to have things lined up most definitely. Most definitely. No, you're not, sir.
Starting point is 01:06:01 I'll tell you right now. I'll predict your future, because I know it. Bet you won't. Bet you won't. Bet you won't. They say there was a lot of hype about how your style of running would fit in perfect with the offensive line here, but there's one thing to read about it and another thing to see it. And Travis said, this may sound crazy, but I just found out that I was leading the league and rushing. I'm not trying to read the papers because I want to stay focused. The thing is, I still think there's more to see. With the line I've got, I can do some big things.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Yeah, but this is week three you just said. This is week three, yeah. Oh my. That's nothing to lead in week three. After week one, somebody leads. Someone's in the lead. Yeah, someone had a good day. They said the thing is you could go for 130 every week and defenses won't gear up to stop you because of what you have at quarterback and receiver
Starting point is 01:06:46 because they're so scared of Jay Cutler. Wow, Denver, I get that the air is thin and you're all stone but calm the fuck down up there. Cheer, chill out. That kid made a shitload of money for doing absolutely fucking nothing. To be fresh ass. If you just hang around as a quarterback in the NFL,
Starting point is 01:07:07 doesn't matter what you've ever done, you're leaving with hundreds of millions of dollars. It's just the way it is. And you put up seven, eight wins a season, somebody will hire you. One season, because they saw it. And that's how many people in the world can play quarterback in the NFL well.
Starting point is 01:07:21 It's very rare. There isn't even 32 of them. There isn't even one per team who can play well. So it's that limited to fucking so few people that it makes sense actually. So he says, we look good on paper, but we've gotta put everything together. We've been putting up yards,
Starting point is 01:07:35 but we haven't opened up the way we should be opening up. And that's scary to think about for me. I'm like, whoa. He said it again? He said, I'm like, whoa. Twice. I'm like, whoa, twice. I'm like, whoa. Twice.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And that is the same conversation. And I'm like, whoa. And that's an exclamation point, too, on that. I'm like, whoa. Did Black Rob do this to him? I think Black Rob. Travis Henry. Black Rob was just a nickname for Travis Henry.
Starting point is 01:08:00 I think he is Travis Henry. His aliens. Spitting kids out like, whoa. Losing money like, whoa. Like, whoa. Gonna be broke like, whoa. He said, I know I expect more and my teammates expect more. That's a good thing. Yeah. Okay. October 5th, 2007. He has failed another drug test. Oh, Travis. This is less than a month after that interview. He's failed another drug test. It's weed again. He's on the brink of a one-year suspension now.
Starting point is 01:08:29 This was so fucking stupid. Wow. Jesus Christ, man. Goodell, how could you? Positive for marijuana, he filed a petition against the NFL and state Supreme Court in Suffolk County, oh, in Long Island there, to stop the league from testing a second urine sample
Starting point is 01:08:46 and taking disciplinary action against him. Henry said, there was no valid reason why any unlawful substance would be in my urine. This must be a mistake. Don't test the other one. It's a mistake. Please don't test that. No.
Starting point is 01:09:03 He, I guess, he gets, he's subject to random testing every month and a second positive test would result in an automatic one-year suspension. He sought a court order blocking a second test to confirm that the original test result was positive that the NFL rejected rejected the toxicologist designated by Henry to be present for a second test. So Henry said, I'm bringing in my guy to oversee this, and they said no. Interesting. He really thinks that they're fucking with this.
Starting point is 01:09:31 He's Mayfield, he's the NFL Mayfield. Fucking with my pee, man. Yeah. Everybody wants to fuck with Travis's urine. Everybody wants everything that comes out of my dick. Kids, urine. Is it Jeremy? Is that the other guy?
Starting point is 01:09:44 Jeremy Mayfield, those names? Jeremy Mayfield, yeah, absolutely. Jeremy, is that the other guy? Jeremy Mayfield, those say that? Jeremy Mayfield, yeah. Yeah, NASCAR was putting meth in his piss. Putting meth in his piss, and apparently in his house, because then they find it is, they're coming in and just fucking really making sure. Put a meth thing to say. That's wild.
Starting point is 01:09:58 He got caught with meth and meth in his system. He's like, they're putting it in my piss, and I don't know where that other meth came from. What is that? And then his wife contacts us, cause she's mad cause we noticed. Fucking crazy shit. We caught on to what he was saying.
Starting point is 01:10:11 Yeah. Because we listened to what he said. We just heard him, that's all. Just heard him. So, according to the league's drug policy, players appointed expert cannot be associated with the testing lab processing the test and his toxicologist, Dr. William Claussen, was linked to the lab.
Starting point is 01:10:33 So he said, if I fail this test, I will be suspended for one year from my employment and will be obliged to repay all signing bonuses paid to date. Oh my God. I will be prejudiced if my expert cannot observe these tests. This is, he smoked weed. He didn't fuck, he has, he fucked a 15 year old. Remember this? Let's not forget this.
Starting point is 01:10:54 That part's bad. Now he smoked fucking weed and we're acting like he could, he's gonna lose everything over weed. This is so fucking stupid. And the other part is that there's, look man, I realize it's his fault, but there are nine children that are going to suffer because of this if he's suspended. That's crazy. That's the crazy part.
Starting point is 01:11:10 That's fucked up. It's a $22 million contract with 12 million guaranteed. He's granted a temporary restraining order in state court, but the next day, NFL lawyers appealed to the state appellate division, which granted a motion to toss out the restraining order. Oh, it's a fucking mess, absolute mess. And he lives in a state where this is about
Starting point is 01:11:29 to be legal anyway, so quick. Yeah, it's so fucking dumb. So November 13th, 2007, they're still fighting, and Shanahan is, here's a Fort Collins, Colorado headline, Shanahan and Henry's Corner. His silver is fucked like Shanahan. Just, yeah. This is a guy that loves winning.
Starting point is 01:11:48 A guy who needs a running game. Yeah. He'd be standing in front of Ted Bundy going, listen, I really, he seems, he's a nice guy, right? This is crazy. This couldn't have been him that did it. What are we talking about? A guy who realizes that 10 years ago,
Starting point is 01:12:01 Super Bowls are wearing thin on his reputation. He's about to be gone. Yeah, hasn't won shit since John Elway. 1999 was a long time ago. So now the coach says that Henry passed drug and lie detector tests. They're giving him lie detector tests. They're doing polygraphs in Cherry Hill.
Starting point is 01:12:24 It says Travis Henry has convinced coach Mike Shanahan. He's not a pothead Okay, I don't know any Bob Marley songs. It's I know none nothing What are you talking about? Like whoa? Yeah, so he's a hat Shanahan is confident that he's not gonna be suspended. He said, this is Shanahan, if I thought the test was positive, Travis would not be on our football team. Shanahan said he passed a lie detector test and a hair sample test taken from Henry also
Starting point is 01:12:56 comes back negative. He said, all tests except one have come back negative, referring to the urine sample. He said, let's give him a chance to have his day in court. Oh my God, that's fucking funny. So he states that the positive test result was due to what, Jimmy? What? Secondhand marijuana smoke.
Starting point is 01:13:18 No. Yeah, that happens. No, it doesn't actually. It does not happen. That is. That ruins lives, James. No, that's hilarious. That is, I had a friend in high school who was on probation and he tried to use that
Starting point is 01:13:29 as an excuse and the probation officer said, now I'm going to violate you because that's bullshit. Because you lied to me. Why would you lie to me? If you said I smoked weed, I wouldn't have cared. Don't say you sat in a car with people smoking weed. It wouldn't come up on your test, stupid. That's not how it works.
Starting point is 01:13:43 Just from being in the general air. So they said the defense of hair samples and lie detector tests was irrelevant and unconvincing, the league said. Yeah, they said, but our substance abuse program is based on meeting the highest standards and respecting player rights in all phases of its administration.
Starting point is 01:14:00 So December 5th, 2007, Travis Henry wins his appeal against drug suspension. Really? That is amazing. Yep, he wins his appeal. He disputed the results, contended the league violated the policy, and now that they said that not allowing an expert of his choosing to be present for the testing violated his rights. So there you go.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Shanahan is fined for comments about the substance abuse program that week as well. 25 grand he's fined by Goodell. For saying it's bullshit, yeah. For inappropriate comments. His comments regarding Travis Henry, who won his appeal. I guess fucking, Shanahan said, listen, had he failed the lie detector test,
Starting point is 01:14:44 he would have considered releasing him, but he passed the test and he said, you know, it's bullshit He so he said this it's ridiculous that they're doing this to him and obviously it's bullshit And I made enough money to cough up 25 grand to back you didn't give a fuck Yeah, and I would think that fucking Pat Boland would have paid that if they were so probably and you know And goodell probably only levied it because he was embarrassed that a coach is backing up the player on on rules that the league makes them abide by. That's all. They know he's smoked weed, stop it. It's ridiculous. Yeah he got caught before. This is the third fucking time or whatever however many times it takes to trigger a year suspension. And he's winning on a fucking technicality. That's all.
Starting point is 01:15:23 That's yeah he got off like OJ. Yeah, this is similar Yeah, so this year he plays in 12 games starts 7 has 691 yards 4.1 per carry He makes six million six hundred ninety five thousand dollars cash paid this year Not too shabby yeah this year though. That's a nice payday. Not too shabby. 2008 he says he restructured his deal with the Broncos prior to his scheduled six million dollar bonus that he was supposed to make. He previously stated he said I want to make it right with the Broncos, the fans and myself. I want to be a Bronco and
Starting point is 01:15:58 make it all right. That sounds like a guy that did nothing wrong. Did nothing wrong. Just wanna be a Bronco, make it all right. I just wanna stay here and just hang out with the kids and just make it all right, baby. It's gonna be a different day. Just a great magnanimous dad around here. Just wanna help. That's all I am. Me, my nine kids, we're all gonna stay. He said, I don't wanna be anywhere else. I owe these people something for all that happened last year.
Starting point is 01:16:18 Yeah, they just, they saved you millions and millions of dollars. I wanna clear my name there, and I'm so hungry to do right there. So he's so hungry to do right at this point. So Henry paid $250,000 to his, and it was attorneys, he had a trial entered a contempt order against Henry that he failed to pay the first two trust payments
Starting point is 01:16:40 on the date supervised for that kid. So he paid the total sum of 250 grand and it was attorney's escrow account and so he had to pay it. He got taken into court. June 2nd 2008, Broncos released Travis Henry. What? They release him. Yes, they say that we did not feel his commitment to the Broncos was enough to warrant a spot on this football team Mike Shanahan said. He's just too inconsistent as a person not as a running back as a human. As a people. As a people. I'm not gonna get into details of what he did or didn't do if you don't do the little things obviously you can't count on somebody so that's why he's released. Holy shit, Shanahan's, he made a fool out of Shani,
Starting point is 01:17:27 that's what happened. Yep, he didn't like that at all. So he is facing a drug suspension again in July of 2008. There it is, yep. He again tested positive for marijuana, again. Broncos said they were not aware of the ruling before they released him, just lucky timing. So, just a little lucky thing there.
Starting point is 01:17:47 June 15th, 2008, by the way, he's in court for some more traffic stuff, no driver's license and, uh, operating a motor vehicle without having a driver's license. I just don't understand. Why do you not have a driver's license? Don't you have to, don't you have parenting time? You got to go pick up your kids. Why do you not have a car and a license? How do you not have a fucking driver's license? How are you? That's insane? That's fucking nuts. I don't understand. Wow. I have my driver's licenses in good standing and I'm a disaster at shit like that
Starting point is 01:18:15 Keeping up with things. I'm awful at it. Forget keeping up with it. I'm bad at doing the actual thing the driving I'm surprised. I haven't taken it from Email reminders aren't even good enough for me. I need a text reminder and then if you can text me again too. Like I have no fucking idea what I'm doing in the world. So the NFL suspends Travis Henry on August 30th, 2008. So yep, he is going to be suspended for at least one year. Wow. And you have not solidified yourself in the NFL like Ricky Williams did by this time.
Starting point is 01:18:49 You know what I mean? No. You can't afford to be shut out for weed at this point. You're considered a pretty good running back. But at this point when you come back you're gonna be a reclamation project that's gonna have to sign for minimum and prove yourself. Right.
Starting point is 01:19:04 That's all you're able to be able to do. And it's not even because you're injury prone, it's because you're dummy prone. Yup, you're a fucking idiot. So he immediately, obviously, now he's suspended. He's going to have to find a way to make some money. This is a guy who can't just have no income. He's got too much going out. Right, he's got too many kids.
Starting point is 01:19:19 So he does, he finds something else here. The failed test, by the way, was reportedly dated May 2008, showing that he used marijuana five months after winning his appeal for... Hilarious. Which is funny. So, September 30th, 2008, by the end of the fucking month, he is arrested, along with an accomplice, following a six kilo of cocaine sting, according to federal authority. He's started running a coke ring.
Starting point is 01:19:46 That's the way he's gonna make up for this. Right now. Now. Let's go. I need to make money, I got kids. So I found the affidavit from the federal authorities that this is his arrest document that describes everything he did in detail
Starting point is 01:20:01 and it's fucking, listening to how it all fell apart is hilarious. Oh shit. Okay. So this is a special agent for the Drug Enforcement Administration, the DEA, in the Billings Montana office and this is arrest warrants for Travis Henry and James Mack. That's his partner in this whole thing. Based on information contained below, they believed Travis and James Mack and others did knowingly and intentionally conspire to distribute and possess with
Starting point is 01:20:28 the intent to distribute five kilograms or more of a mixture or control or substance containing a detectable amount of cocaine. So fucking dealing coke. The charges are filed. It involves cocaine worth about a hundred thousand dollars and everybody said that Travis was the money guy in this. He was taking whatever he had left and investing it in this. Wow. Apparently from the court documents, and we'll get to it in detail, but he told a customer that he and his family were all dead
Starting point is 01:20:58 if they didn't come up with 40 grand worth of cocaine that was lost when their home was robbed. There's a bad man or man after us now. I got nine kids motherfucker, I need that money. So to make up for the stolen cocaine they gave another customer two kilograms of fake cocaine, basically drywall, with one kilogram of real cocaine. So they mixed it all together. So Mac is a convicted robber by the way. He was going to sell drywall
Starting point is 01:21:27 to people to snort. Yeah. He doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't care. Oh my God. Um, so they do a big sting that cocaine is provided by the DEA chemist in San Diego. Let's talk about it. Okay. At approximately 7 25 PM on September 16th, 2008, Montana Highway Patrol Trooper Buck O'Neill, hell yeah, the baseball player, the Hall of Fame Negro League player who's hilarious too, he lived forever, he was really cool and fun. Yeah, I don't know if it's him or not, but I do know he rode a horse to stop this car. Yeah, he definitely did. Buck O'Neill, pull over. The horse nays instead of a siren. And DEA agent Joseph Kirkland made a vehicle stop on a Chevrolet Impala with a Nevada license plate
Starting point is 01:22:13 on Interstate 90 near mile marker 474. The vehicle was registered to individuals with Nevada addresses. There was a driver and one passenger in the vehicle. Both driver and passenger were removed from the vehicle, searched and secured outside the vehicle. So Special Agent Kirkland, Special Agent Diane Jenkins, and Montana Division of Criminal Investigation Agent Jeff Neddins
Starting point is 01:22:35 searched the vehicle. Kirkland found a black duffel bag which contained approximately six pounds of marijuana and approximately three kilograms of cocaine. How fucking fast were you going? Wow, you dummy. That gave them the opportunity to search this car. Oh, well maybe it's the five pounds of weed smell in the car.
Starting point is 01:22:55 That plus they knew it. You don't get pulled over by a highway patrol trooper with a DEA agent unless they know what you're doing. They're usually not partners. No, yeah, usually not. Come on, Buck, let's get out there. Not a lot of ride alongs with the DEA agent unless they know what you're doing. They're usually not partners. Yeah, usually not. Come on, Buck, let's get out there. Not a lot of ride alongs with the DEA. No, come on, pull him over.
Starting point is 01:23:11 So Diane Jenkins, special agent, drove the vehicle to the Montana Division of Criminal Investigation office in Billings where the vehicle was secured. The driver and passenger were also transferred there. Immediately following the passenger's arrest, the passenger, who eventually became a cooperating subject, CS1 he'll be known as, debriefed with investigators at the office of the Montana Division of Criminal Investigation. Present at the interview were all these people, they read him his rights.
Starting point is 01:23:40 So he got pulled over at, what time did I say he got pulled over? 7.25. By 8.10 he got pulled over at what time did I say he got pulled over? 725. By 810 he was cooperating. By 810. 45 fucking minutes after the lights went on. They said this is trafficking. You're in a lot of trouble. He goes, I'll tell you everything you want to know. I'll tell you everything you need to know. This is not my fucking money and I don't care. This is not my drugs. He said he would love to speak with investigators at that time. Super psyched to do it. I won't tell you anything. Number one because not only is he fucked with this, he's also in trouble with these. This is the guy who he's he's
Starting point is 01:24:18 40 grand light so he's trying to do favors for them to get their good graces. This is not gonna go over well. No. So according to this informant, he was traveling to Billings, Montana to deliver three kilograms of cocaine and six pounds of marijuana. The three kilograms of cocaine were to be delivered to a resident of Billings. The customer was to pay 20,000 for each kilo. The six pounds of weed were to be delivered to another resident of Billings. And this customer was to pay $600 a pound for the marijuana. He's got multiple stops to make?
Starting point is 01:24:48 Multiple stops to make. Oh my god, he's a fucking Amazon driver for drugs? Almost there. The informant identified his sources of supply for the cocaine and the marijuana as James Mack, aka T, and Travis Henry, who's not T. James Mack doesn't have a T in his name. No, one T in his fucking name.
Starting point is 01:25:09 This guy was, the informant was essentially a transporter of drugs and money and was going to be paid $5,000 for transporting the drugs to Billings and transporting all proceeds back to Travis Henry in Denver. Yeah. Henry in Denver. Money guy. The informant stated that the house of the drug associate in Billings, another customer, was broken into and was robbed of $40,000. That's the one we talked about. According to this informant, customer number three here was also obtained cocaine directly from the defendants, Mack and Henry in Denver.
Starting point is 01:25:40 Since this informant introduced customer three to Mack and Henry, Mack and Henry were holding the informant equally responsible for the Mack and Henry Mack and Henry were holding the the informant Equally responsible for the forty thousand dollar loss because they said you're the one who introduced us to that asshole You're part of this you that's why he's making this run. He has no choice Yeah So they said in addition to the above transactions the informant on two occasions had delivered cocaine to another customer customer number four in Billings, Montana pride I didn't know there
Starting point is 01:26:05 was this many drugs going into Billings. Yeah, Billings was such a hotbed for cocaine. No shit on September 16th, 2008. So he was doing this the second the drug test came back failed. He started doing this. And the DEA was well aware of it already. Quickly, quickly. Yeah, he didn't like build a drug empire and then get taken down. He just started. So they said on the second occasion, the informant delivered two kilos of cocaine. The cocaine was sold for 21,500 a kilo. According to the confidential informant here, Henry was the money guy and was owed the $40,000 lost in the robbery.
Starting point is 01:26:39 As a result, Henry was threatening this informant and his family demanding that this informant pay the $40,000 lost by that customer that he introduced him to. According to this informant, Henry said that this informant's family and customer number three's family were all dead if they didn't come up with the money. Did he accidentally text that to the DEA? You're all dead.
Starting point is 01:27:00 How did they know? I don't know, he's not good at this apparently. No. He's as good at this as holding onto the ball going through the hole. So in order to avoid being killed by Henry, Mac and the informant came up with a plan to rip off customer one by supplying him with one kilo of real cocaine and two kilos of fake cocaine, which was drywall. The $40,000 made from the sale of the two sham kilos would be used to pay off the $40,000 debt owed to them.
Starting point is 01:27:29 What a dickhead. Wow. According to this informant, the plan was now a failure because one kilogram of the real cocaine and two of the fake kilograms was what the DEA seized from his impala at the time of the traffic stop. So now we've lost five cocaine. Now we're all fucked. Yeah, five cocaine. The informant agreed to cooperate proactively and meet with Mack and Henry to discuss the
Starting point is 01:27:52 events. I'll wear a wire. The meeting was monitored and recorded by law enforcement. You fucking idiot. He's probably getting someone pregnant in the background. That's how dumb he is. On September 18th, 2008, two days after the highway stop, so this is all moving very quickly.
Starting point is 01:28:10 So fast. 45 minutes there in Informant, two days later. Pull over to wear a wire? Full fucking, yeah, monitored and recorded here. Two days after the highway stop, the Informant and Mac met in Aurora, Colorado. The informant lied to Mac and told him that he had been successful in ripping off the customer for the money, but that all the money the $40,000 owed plus additional drug proceeds
Starting point is 01:28:34 from the sale was seized on his return trip to Denver by the highway patrol. Mac told the informant that he's going to have to tell Travis Henry about the loss of this money. You're going You're in trouble so on September 22nd 2008 here a recorded monitored phone call Was made to Henry by this informant. So now he's got Henry on here Informant told Henry about the highway seizure of the money. They took all my money
Starting point is 01:29:01 Also told Henry that he arranged for three kilograms of cocaine to be fronted to Henry to repay the money seized during the highway stop. So he said, I got someone to front you the more coke, so you're good. Don't worry, I'm going to replace the coke. I'll replace it. Henry told the informant that he would call the informant when he got to Denver. On September 26, 2008, another call between the informant and Mack, where the informant advised Mack that the informant had arranged for five kilos of cocaine to be delivered
Starting point is 01:29:31 to Denver. Don't worry, more is a coming. We've got five cokes coming to you. Coming to you. Five fucking cans of coke. The cops will never be able to crack that code. Five 12 packs. He said that he told Mack that three kilos would be fronted and
Starting point is 01:29:45 the other two could be purchased for an additional 40,000. Mac told the informant that Henry was interested in the five kilogram cocaine transaction. He's going to do it. So September 27th, the next day, Henry arrived unexpectedly at the informants residence. That's terrifying. Yeah, that's generally because I've also got a saw in the trunk. I figured something out. You're going to come with me now. Yeah, I pictured the scene from Scarface in the bathtub. I've changed my mind about those cokes.
Starting point is 01:30:13 Yeah, because I'm going to take your limbs instead. Henry asked the informant about the five kilos. The informant told Henry the five kilos of cocaine would arrive in Denver on Tuesday, September 30th. Henry and the informant agreed that the informant would front Henry three grams of coke and Henry would purchase the remaining two for 40,000. On September 29th, another conversation between the informant and Henry where the informant and Henry confirmed that the transaction for five kilograms will take place the next day at the
Starting point is 01:30:45 informants residence. Oh boy. So September 30th here it is D-Day here. Now 3 23 p.m. a recorded monitor telephone conversation was conducted between him and Henry. Informant tells Henry the coke would beat in town a couple of hours and that the informant would call Henry when it arrived. a couple of hours and that the informant would call Henry when it arrived. At 5.43 p.m. that day, he makes another call and tells him the cocaine is here. It showed up. Happy days are here again. I'm going to fix all that ails us. All that ails us. 6.15 p.m. Henry and Mac arrive at the apartment here. The informant talked with Henry and Mac briefly and then retrieved a duffel bag that held six kilos of cocaine. He put the duffel bag on the kitchen counter.
Starting point is 01:31:32 Mac opens the bag and took out a kilo of cocaine. Mac cut himself trying to open the package. He sliced his hand. He can't operate a knife. He's not good at this. So Henry took the package, or took the kilogram here, took the kilo, and broke off a piece of the Coke, broke off a little chunk here. Henry and Mac then started cooking the cocaine
Starting point is 01:31:54 to test its quality. That's how much they know what they're doing. They immediately know how to start cooking the shit up. They're like, you got a pot and this and that. Wow. Cooking it. So Travis is no neophyte. Yeah. At all. He's not just a money man. He's very well versed in the chemistry of cocaine and how to make it into fucking rocks. Crack. He knows. Yeah. I mean, he didn't
Starting point is 01:32:17 just see menace to society one time when they did it on there. He's actually knows what he's doing. Quick. He's bubbling it. yeah. They said, quote, after they rocked up the cocaine. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. And saw that it was good quality, because it's from the DEA in San Diego. We know it's good quality. It's the best there is.
Starting point is 01:32:33 It's pretty decent. It's what they've seized. Yeah. Henry and Mac packaged up all six kilograms of cocaine in a duffel bag. Henry took the duffel bag and he and Mac went out the front door of the residence. As they exited the residence, law enforcement quote contacted Henry and Mack in an effort to place them under arrest. Contacted is one way to put it. They said DEA freeze. Jumped out with guns drawn and scared them half to death. Government officials. Mack immediately went to the ground and was secured by police. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:05 And Travis... He runs motherfucker. He's got a double bag, which is like a ball. He's going for it. He fucking ran. He took off. He's on tuck it and run, babe. Fuck that shit.
Starting point is 01:33:18 Yeah. Defenses can't catch me. I don't even have an offensive line. I'll take my chances. Twenty-five up the middle. He fucking runs from police and is apprehended a few houses away after a short pursuit. They probably had people down the block as well.
Starting point is 01:33:31 Yeah, of course. Cut them off. Yeah. Yeah, they had somebody in a bush a couple blocks away. Yeah, or just sitting blocking off the street or something. So he's apprehended. He's secured by the police. In all the stories, it never says he tried to run
Starting point is 01:33:41 and they caught him a few houses down, only in the affidavit, which is hilarious. A lot of the stories don't say that. tried to run and they caught him a few houses down, only in the affidavit, which is hilarious. A lot of the stories don't say that. Some do, but most don't. So he's secured by the police and they say that he did knowingly intentionally conspire to distribute and possess with the intent to distribute five kilos or more of coke. Oh my God, he's in so much trouble. He's in a lot of fucking trouble.
Starting point is 01:34:03 What he's in trouble, like a mandatory minimum kind of trouble. Yeah, this is this is five to ten right right out of the gate. This is some prison shit. Yeah, this is a Not good. Yeah, that's fucking funny that the DEA can just pop pump out six kilos of fucking coke. No problem There you go. He's produce it real quick. It's sitting in a fucking room. Yeah, they have it. We'll go grab it. Unless it's in the NYPD with that old thing when they did the whole French connection bust. And then they checked it like five years later and none of it was real. It had all been replaced by fucking fake shit.
Starting point is 01:34:37 Baby powder or shit. It's so fucking funny. They just had robbed it blind. March 3rd, 2009 here. Not only is he arrested now for that, but I guess he's out on bail for this. And so he's arrested again March 3rd 2009 on charges that he owes $16,000 in child support payments.
Starting point is 01:34:54 Oh, deadbeat death loss. Deadbeat death. And I'm shocked it's not more, if I'm being fucking honest with you. Yeah, that's pretty cheap. That's not that bad. So March 13th, he's serving a 179 day term in Polk Jail. So this is down in Frostproof.
Starting point is 01:35:10 He's spending his days in an isolation cell at the South County Jail. Wow. Since the, I guess, since the interview he had before, where he had nine and nine, now he's got 11 kids by 10 women, by the way. He's got two with one gal. One gal was so special. Yeah, she's so special, he had to drop another load on her. So he's arrested that he owed
Starting point is 01:35:34 $16,600 in child support payments. He could have paid the debt to avoid the jail term, but he said he didn't have any money. No, that's why he was trafficking coke. Yep. He owes child support payments to at least three children in Polk County. One an eight-year-old boy was born during his two-year marriage while a student on a full scholarship, so that was his college one. Henry's lawyer argued into Kalb County, Georgia for the reduction of the $3,000 a month payment for his five-year-old
Starting point is 01:36:05 son. He argued that Henry did not have enough money because he no longer received an NFL salary and he's got impending federal fucking felony drug charges. Oh, he's in so much trouble, you guys. This is just the tip of it. Sitting in his hometown jail. Just that is so fucking bad. So ugly.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Waiting to be sentenced. It's really fucking bad and it's ugly in there. Yeah, it's grimy. He's not used to this anymore. He's used to opulence. He's used to nice things now. Plays in Cherry Creek, James. Yeah, he wants to fucking spruce this place up a little.
Starting point is 01:36:38 So who does he call? That's right. There's a knock at the door and who is it? It's Dexter Manley, interior designer from New York City. And he says, how is it you've come to arrive here? Like, seriously? Oh my God. Cocaine threats? 10 children with 11. come on, 11, 10, whatever you do? You sir are white trash. I'm sorry, you're white trash.
Starting point is 01:37:10 This is as trashy as it comes. Look at you. This is the disgrace. You know what, I won't fix this place up. You deserve to live in squalor, sir. This is- You don't have any money to pay anyway. Just stop.
Starting point is 01:37:22 Stop it now. And then, no, no, no, no, he's not here. No. Let me in. Oh, stop. Just ignore him. Ignore him. You have enough problems. Trust me. Let me in now. He's virile. Look at him. Oh God. He looks at a woman and she's pregnant. Oh, come on. Hang out with me, Travis. Travis, can you hear me? Travis you like poop Travis do you impregnate them and then poop on them I'm interested in your lifestyle Travis let me in so I have to go Florida trash it makes all the sense he's never gonna stop if I if I don't leave I have to then stop it you just stop no I mean he's
Starting point is 01:38:00 virile that's I have to go goodbye poofof. And in a poof of feathers and boas, he's all gone and glitter and Vince has gone too, thankfully for everybody. How trash, how Florida trash is Travis Henry? Travis Henry should be on the flag, I think. Yeah, he is. He's surrounded by all of his kids with a with a mosaic of the women behind him I think that would be perfect really Fantastic at being Florida man. He is so by 2009. He's in the newspaper
Starting point is 01:38:35 Yeah, and they're saying he's broke after injuries and drug problems and quote prolific procreating which prolific Procreating which Prolific Pro creator is the name of the yeah for sure that's pretty good pretty pretty right on the nose Jesus Christ they said quote Travis Henry was rattling off his children's ages which ranged from 3 to 11 he paused and took a breath before finishing. You can't get those out in one breath, all his kids. He always gotta do his count from three to 11. All of them are right there. Oh man, so they're talking about his prolific procreating generated by child support disputes
Starting point is 01:39:17 have highlighted how futile the NFL's attempts can be at educating its players about making wise choices. He likes pussy. You're not gonna have, you're gonna have as many symposiums as you like They're still gonna like pussy every guy a young I'm a young fucking guy with money and they don't realize how fuck dude if you gave me 12 million dollars when I was 22 I'd be dead and there'd be a bunch of children. Oh wait all over the place a bunch of children in my wake. All over the place.
Starting point is 01:39:42 That doesn't sound right. A bunch of children in my wake. A bunch of children at your wake, not in your wake. Yeah, that's what it is. And they'd all be saying, why is daddy asleep? Because they'd be so young, they wouldn't fucking understand. They wouldn't get it. $12 million, you'd think it's gonna be forever,
Starting point is 01:39:59 but it's just fucking not when there's that many kids. Dude, this is crazy because he got busted in a huge federal drug bust, and that isn't even the news. The news is how many fucking kids he has. That's crazy. Yeah, cocaine, who cares? He has done it nine times. Yeah, they asked him about his fiscal responsibilities
Starting point is 01:40:17 to his children, and he said, quote, they've got my blood, I've got to deal with it. Which is a great way to put it. That's not the answer. Yeah, he was under house arrest for the drug matter at this point, waiting to go to trial here. He had returned from Atlanta, where a judge put him in jail, obviously. This was in his payments. He said, I love all of my kids. But he said he couldn't afford the designated amounts estimated by his attorney at $170,000 a year.
Starting point is 01:40:50 He said, I've lost everything in this mess I've gotten myself into. I would say. Then he says, he said he was, you know, he was got married when he was 19 to one of the women and all that. And he said that Henry's mother didn't like that. He said she was going crazy over it. So he that's when he got divorced for her So two more kids over there Attending the NFL rookie symposium as a draft pick. He watched a skit that dramatized the repercussions of imprudent sexual activity
Starting point is 01:41:25 And then he said that he laughed throughout the sketch. What the fuck? Well, I mean, that was, we should have known. Yeah, I mean, he's already has four kids. This is already past him anyway. It's not funny, man. Horse is out of the barn, sir. This is... Is it funny now, Travis? How about now? He said, quote, I thought that ain't ever gonna happen to me. Uh-huh. Oh yes it will here. He maintained he was in involved long-term relationships with many of the mothers. Some he said, he said some of them told him he was that they were using birth control and he was surprised at discovering that they'd become pregnant by him. Maybe you're just that good man. That's what he said. Well I did use protection at first then they'd be saying they'd be on the pill
Starting point is 01:42:08 They said they'd be on the pill. I mean when they say they'd be on the pill they'd be on the pill, you know I was an idiot to trust them second or third time with them. I did not second time nine times, okay He said it like they were in a relationship for a year, and after a year, it was like, well, now I'm on the pill and stuff, so let's, second or third time I was with them. He fucked them second time raw dogging them, and he's like, weird that I have kids. What the fuck do you expect? Can't believe it.
Starting point is 01:42:35 And he did that nine times. Yeah. Second or third time with them, I didn't use it, then boom. He said in four instances, he said, quote, I was trapped. He said if not for his football cache and accompanying wealth, I guarantee you this wouldn't have happened. No, that's not how that works. Just because of the football doesn't
Starting point is 01:42:54 mean you don't get people pregnant. Oh, man. He said, my counselor asks me, how can you do the same thing over and over? And he said he never does have an answer for him. Because he's insane He's insane just keeps happening His answer is this quote knock on wood or something. I'm blessed not to have AIDS that never crossed my mind
Starting point is 01:43:21 The look on your face was like who is this asshole? This is fucking, the look on your face was like, who is this asshole? This is like. Who says that? He's such a fucking idiot, man. I got nine kids, but at least it's not AIDS. What? I mean, yeah, it's not AIDS.
Starting point is 01:43:33 10, 11 kids with no AIDS. You're gonna die broke either way, man. Oh my God. Jesus Christ, man. What a dim shit. In an interview with the lawyer who represents Jamisha Beecham, the one mother of his one baby, characterized Henry's spending, quote,
Starting point is 01:43:51 like there was no tomorrow. Yes. And thus depriving his children of money. Yeah, piling on that, he also failed the drug test, so he suspended, he couldn't play if he wanted to, even if he wasn't in jail. He insists, though, that his body has three more seasons in it.
Starting point is 01:44:06 Said I could do it. He said I'm seeking to modify my child support obligations. He said some of the mothers and their lawyers will have none of that saying that he has squandered a small fortune on luxuries like cars and jewelry. Henry said I feel sorry for the guy. This is the one attorney, I feel sorry for the guy. Trust, oh, this is the one attorney. I feel sorry for the guy. Trust me. On the other hand, when you take those kinds of actions,
Starting point is 01:44:30 there are consequences. He could have taken care of the money. He argued, Henry, that within the context of athletes, he was not, you know, out of line. Living wild, yeah. Yeah, he said he contended he owned no more than three vehicles at once and figured he'd spent 250 grand on jewelry. He said, quote, that ain't a lot.
Starting point is 01:44:50 It's a lot. It's a lot, yeah. It's a house back then. Yeah, that's a lot. He said, that ain't a lot. He said, though, he hopes to pawn some of his jewelry to pay off one of his debts. No, no.
Starting point is 01:45:01 So he can gain his freedom. Take it to a jeweler and sell it for top dollars. Don't pawn anything. No, put it on fucking freedom take it to a jeweler and sell it for top dollars. Don't don't pawn anything No, put it on fucking eBay and say it's yours sell it to somebody Yeah, see who has some weird fucking fixation on the volunteers. Whatever. Yeah. Yeah He then says quote. I have a big heart a Big heart and a big sperm reservoir as well big old jazz reservoir. Yeah, I was taking care of a lot of people I was acting
Starting point is 01:45:25 like somebody who never had nothing, could never get into that saving mode. I guess not. His lawyer said, Travis is tackling this head on. I love when they use football fucking terms. That's so annoying. He said it's humbling for them to ask for help. Guys like him, athletes in a bad position. He said, yeah, Henry, he said that, they talk about his father disappeared and then resurfaced when he started coming around, and he said, there was no love lost. He wasn't around when I needed him to be.
Starting point is 01:45:55 But now he said he gets along with him. He said he voices no love for some of the mothers of his children. Really? He said everything was cool before he signed that contract in Denver and then quote, they were out for blood. They were out to get something from you that you haven't given them at all. That's the thing.
Starting point is 01:46:14 They were out for help raising your fucking children. Yeah. Idiot. Oh my God. He said after his drug arrest, he developed severe migraines that required a visit to an emergency room. His mother, yeah, his mother once phoned worried that he was contemplating suicide and he told her that he wasn't.
Starting point is 01:46:34 He said I'm trying to get through this storm and he said, he tells now he wants to be able to do the NFL symposium so he can tell the rookies don't think it can't happen to you. Yeah, I need them to pay me 20 grand every year. Come on, I need a gig. Back in Denver, his fiance awaits. Get the fuck out of here. They set a wedding date but agreed to postpone it until after all this shit's over.
Starting point is 01:46:58 Until he serves his time. Yeah, one subject they agree on, neither wants children. Well, they're gonna have some. Oh, that's great. Don't worry about that. Well, they do, because then he'll have two more kids by her, because he has 10, 11 kids and 10 women, remember? So that didn't work out.
Starting point is 01:47:12 He, April 17, 2009, he is going to plead guilty to trafficking cocaine in federal court. Wow. This could land him in prison for 10 years or more. Holy shit. He admitted to a single count of conspiracy to possess cocaine with intent to distribute after being arrested as the money guy here and um yep he's going to prison. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:36 May 22nd 2009 he's taken into federal custody after violating the conditions of his bond. Oh no Travis what did you do? Post conviction pre-sentencing. Yeah. Fucking idiot. He ruled that he violated conditions set by a Montana judge when he used alcohol. Okay, so I got you.
Starting point is 01:47:54 Yeah, he was arrested by US Marshals and Polk County Sheriff's Deputies in Auburndale. Yeah, telephone message left with his attorney was not immediately returned, there you go. June 18th, 2009. Oh, this isn left with his attorney was not immediately returned. There you go. June 18th, 2009. Oh, this isn't with them. An orange woman. This is the Orlando Sentinel. Orange woman. This is the headline.
Starting point is 01:48:13 NFL veteran fathered twins owes money. God, he has acknowledged nine children with nine different mothers. But this woman says the number is actually 11. So it's not his wife, actually, that he has acknowledged nine children with nine different mothers, but this woman says the number is actually 11. So it's not his wife actually that he has kids with. Vanessa Colbert recently became the second woman in Orange County trying to collect child support from Henry. She says the former athlete fathered her twins who are now 18 months old. So a woman wasn't even so special that he put two in there.
Starting point is 01:48:42 It was an accident that there's two in there. An accident. Yep. Shit. He owes more than $11,000 in back support in two cases at this point. The Orange County women have joined a long line of mothers seeking money from the man who once played
Starting point is 01:48:56 for the Broncos, Titans, and Bills. So this has become like a class action suit. Yeah. You shouldn't have enough baby mamas to have a class action against you for this. This is fucking crazy. Yeah, like T-Mobile leaked your fucking social security number. That's crazy. His lawyer says right now there's nothing, meaning no money. So he's got no
Starting point is 01:49:17 money. He said there's a detailed flow chart of the children, by the way, in the child support cases. It includes each child's date of birth, mother, and place of residence. Then there are Henry's monthly payments. According to this affidavit, 2008 financial affidavit, he spent about $1,100 to talk on the phone, about $2,500 on clothes, another $2,500 on entertainment, $1,500 on gifts. Among his assets at the time, $100,000 Mercedes, a $25,000 Cadillac Escalade, $50,000 in jewelry. And he said he had some heavy liabilities, $100,000 owed to lawyers, and $140 grand owed to a jeweler.
Starting point is 01:49:59 Wow. His lawyer says, quote, it's a typical catastrophe. That's a great line, a typical catastrophe, which great oxymoron. He said, people who are young, who make a lot of money, sometimes don't plan well enough in advance here, obviously. And his lawyer also said, at the end of the day, he still has a responsibility to the children.
Starting point is 01:50:22 So July 16 2009 a federal judge this is sentencing now in Florida. Here we go they sentence him to you sir may fuck off three years in prison. What? Which isn't bad. Incredibly light. Yeah. He threatened to kill people over coke money. That's right. And ran and tried to flee. Yeah. That's the other thing not just like he had some coke. He's trying to kill a man over coke. That's right. And ran and tried to flee. Yeah, that's the other thing. Not just like he had some coke. He's going to kill a man over coke. That's a lot. That's trying to be a kingpin shit.
Starting point is 01:50:49 That's really a lot more money. He's lucky he's a fucking athlete. So he gets that plus five years probation as well and a 500 hour drug treatment program. Okay, he's not completing that. Yeah. Well, the fine is waived. There's a big fine and that's waived because they said that the judge said he can't afford to fight. He can't pay that, no.
Starting point is 01:51:09 He said, I'd rather give that to the kids that he fucking has fathered. So if he completes a drug program while in prison, his sentence could be reduced by one year. Oh, that's great. So yeah, August of 2012. So when did he go? That was July 2009. By August of 2012, at did he go that was July 2009 by August of 2012 at a prison released He does two fucking years for threatening someone's life over coke that's which seems real fucking light But James you got to understand to a man Barksdale did more time than that
Starting point is 01:51:38 This man is now beyond his prime to oh yeah in so much trouble so oh He's so fucked that he owes so much money still. He's in so much trouble. All of his fucking kids. He's got to feel bad for these kids going, where's dad? I don't know. We don't even know. I feel bad.
Starting point is 01:51:53 I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. But not nearly as bad as I feel for Travis Henry, marketing and sales development ops at Snowflake and author of Busting Silos. Let me show you this guy. He couldn't be any less like this. He looks like he looks Mormon. Yeah, dating app profile. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 01:52:16 It's fucking hilarious. Just a blonde guy and he's in Denver. This guy too. Poor bastard. Oh, I feel terrible for him. Travis Henry, wealth advisor at Crescent. Well, I'm definitely not going to him, unfortunately. Nope.
Starting point is 01:52:28 That's really unfortunate for this pork. It's not his fault. If you live in Miami, Fort Lauderdale, give this guy a shot. It's not the same guy. If you've got any kind of wealth to manage. And also, he does sports and entertainment as well. That guy does?
Starting point is 01:52:42 Yeah, advocate for diversity in tech and venture capital in Miami-Fort Lauderdale. So are you sure that's not him? Oh it's not him. No, it's certainly not him. He went to Yale. He didn't go to Tennessee and play football. He went to Yale, this man. No, they wouldn't even let him on the campus to play a game at Yale. No, they're afraid to impregnate somebody. Also, he has assets under management exceeding $10 billion. Holy shit! So he's doing just fine, this guy.
Starting point is 01:53:10 Yeah. He did, though. He was a four-year letterman in all Ivy League selection, helping Yale win the 2006 Ivy League Football Championship. Wow! So he's actually a football player named Travis Fucking Henry, who lives in Florida and manages ten billion dollars and is doing so much better.
Starting point is 01:53:29 So much fucking better. Didn't play in the NFL and has way more money. Way more fucking money. He did so much better with himself. Travis Henry, professor of radiology, chief of cardiothoracic imaging division at Duke University. Holy shit. He's got an important job.
Starting point is 01:53:47 Yeah, is he just chopping up stuff saying breathe deep on this? I guess so, man. And then finally, Travis Henry from the show My 600-pound Life. What? There's a big fat guy named Travis Henry? Big giant fat guy, 617 pounds of Travis Henry. So that's like three Travis Henry's that we have.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Three of our Travis Henry's. Yeah, so he was on the show and apparently lost some weight. He shed 238 pounds. Wow. On the show, achieving a final weight of 379, which is like an offensive lineman. That's not bad at all. Yeah, he's doing well.
Starting point is 01:54:21 That guy, so apparently he's doing well. I don't know what he's doing now, but he's doing fine. And also Travis Henry, physical therapist. Yeah, licensed physical therapist with the Bone and Joint Institute of Tennessee. So again, he also went to the University of Tennessee. Wow. Holy shit. So August 6, 2012, he's played out his suspension. That's all over. He was in jail for 2012, he's played out his suspension. That's all over. He was in jail for that. He's out of jail, reinstated by the NFL.
Starting point is 01:54:49 Okay. Reinstated. They don't care. Tampa Tribune come back in the works for ex-NFL star. Henry 33 working out. Too old for a running back. Oh boy. Unless you're Walter Payton, that's not gonna work. Yeah, so they said he's trying to come back. Oh boy. Unless you're Walter Payton that's not gonna work. Yeah so they said
Starting point is 01:55:06 he's trying to come back he's really last time he played was 2007. He said I have fresh legs. That's what he said I have fresh legs. Six years ago. He said quote what motivated me was players like Michael Vick and Plaxico Burris getting into trouble then getting back into society and redeeming themselves every hole Nobody is happy about Michael Vick getting back And now everybody was so mad he had a lot of support after a while did but it's not a people are like Just be served his times decided like just because there's a backlash if you Like I said, you could blow up a fucking school and if enough people hate you there'll be a group of people that go no he's okay he took a dog by the leash and slammed it it's fuck him and
Starting point is 01:55:53 forever I don't nobody minded after that though unbelievable fucking crazy sweet lefty sling of that wall nobody gives a shit fuck him forever he said I agree fuck yeah I'm all about it. Oh man. He said, I've had a good time to look back and reflect on my life and set goals for myself. I never imagined myself going to prison. In my time away, people would know who I was and talk in a disappointed way like I threw away my career.
Starting point is 01:56:18 Yeah, you did. Like you threw it away. You threatened to kill a man over coke, dude. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. You can't do that. And then tried to substitute it with drywall. You're a dick. Fucking dick in all accounts.
Starting point is 01:56:31 You're not even a trustworthy drug dealer. No, you're a terrible drug dealer. Because drugs are, there is no recourse except, so that's the ultimate like fucking, are you an upstanding person? Are you even honest in drug deals? Not even not even he said it just haunts me when I think about it I see guys like Vic and Burris and I say why can't that be me? Burris shot himself like it. Yeah, that was stupid. Don't compare yourself to Burris. Yeah
Starting point is 01:57:01 Shit fucking stupid not the same He said that quote. I think, this is his trainer, I think one of the biggest things dealing with the older athletes is seeing how long they've been off. One of the things I noticed with older veterans is they make tremendous gains in a hurry. I'm already seeing improvement of what Travis is working on and getting done already. He still has a good burst. He's got to have more than that to play in the NFL. Fucking stamina and longevity. Yeah, no shit. You know what? Let's do another in their own words. I think it's appropriate here because he really has a whole thing to say here in their own words
Starting point is 01:57:36 quote, people make mistakes. It's what you do after to get back up. I just want to show young kids and people that people make mistakes and that you can get up and that you can fight. You can't ever let anyone tell you, trust me a lot of people told me that being reinstated was going to be impossible. I agree. You can stand up and you can fight and you can try your best to succeed, but you can't compete in the NFL at the top level at 33 was six years off. You can't do it. It's just not gonna happen.
Starting point is 01:58:07 And I love how he says, I wanna show the kids. How about show all of your kids first? You have enough. You got nine. You don't need to show any outside kids. You've got an audience, man. November 2nd, 2017, a decal judge swats down a request by Travis Henry for a temporary cut in child support payments
Starting point is 01:58:24 for one of the nine children that he's paying for. The ruling comes at the end of a nearly all-day hearing where he said that he said on whether or not he can still afford to pay $3,000 a month to get. Oh, he can't. No. His attorney said he can't pay that much because he doesn't get an NFL paycheck anymore and he's in danger of fucking anything could happen here. So it's fucking ridiculous obviously this whole thing.
Starting point is 01:58:50 He says now that I look at back at my life, not all my decisions were good and now I'm paying for it. I just want to make good. I just want to take care of my children. I want to get my life back together. Okay, that's good. That's it. So don't know what happens.
Starting point is 01:59:04 He's still trying to pay child support doing all this He's been quiet for a few years now, but you can't get enough of him. Well, you can get an autographed This is a Buffalo Bills Jersey autographed only 59.99. Yeah, there's no way it's expensive That's not bad. You're trying to be a kingpin. That's hilarious, we gotta get that. We have a Mike Richardson, we'll get him. Sheldon, oh, you fucked a 15-year-old, that was weird. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know if I, I don't know, we've got Buck Zumaugh, we may as well have him. That's true.
Starting point is 01:59:34 Fuck. Might as well, fuck him. Travis Henry signed Tennessee, with a ball in the Tennessee uniform, 2395, picture of him. And then a Travis Henry signed full-size Tennessee Helmet so it's a real size helmet. Yeah, it's one of the nice ones too not It's real nice. It's a real good one. Yeah 400 bucks for that bad boy my plus 3450 shipping which $400 don't think so big trav I doubt it
Starting point is 02:00:01 So who the fuck is selling that? Who's paying that? Some asshole, anyway. Some Tennessee fan will probably get it. There you go, everybody. That's Travis Henry. Wow. What an incredible asshole he is. I had no idea he did that to himself.
Starting point is 02:00:17 No, it's all self-inflicted as fuck. He ruined his career, threw away his financial security. His life, James. His life, threatened to kill people. He's a fucking moron. Wow. Wow. If you like that story, tell everyone about it.
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Starting point is 02:01:55 we're gonna talk about the craziest execution methods in history. Yeah? Yeah, creative shit people came up with. What if we did this and that and then his arm popped off and then this thing beat him with his own arm to death? That'd be fun, right? That's the kind of shit they used people came up with. What if we did this and that and then his arm popped off and then this thing beat him with his own arm to death? That'd be fun, right? That's the kind of shit they used to come up with.
Starting point is 02:02:09 We'll talk about all that. Draw and quarter, man. They would have had you to horses and explode you. That was an idea that they had. I bet everything will come off and he'll die. Yeah, probably, okay. So there you go. There's that, get in there.
Starting point is 02:02:21 Patreon.com slash Crime and Sports, all that and tons more. Follow us on social media at Crime and Sports on that. Get in there. Patreon.com slash crime and sports, all that and tons more. Follow us on social media at crime and sports on all the major outlets there. Keep doing that and Jimmy, I need you to do something for me right now. I need you to hit me with the list of people who would never, never, ever, ever have tons of kids with us and then not give us any child support. Jimmy, hit me with the names of the only list around that has more names than Travis Henry's child list, his Christmas card fucking list. Hit me with the names of the only list around that has more names than Travis Henry's child list, his Christmas card fucking list.
Starting point is 02:02:47 Hit me with them right now. This week's executive producers are David Cook, Samara, Samara, Samara, Slocum? Slocum. Carly wrote a back. She did. And yeah. Rode it back.
Starting point is 02:02:59 You guys, we can't do this without you. So we can't tell you how much we appreciate you guys. Fuck yeah. It's truly amazing. And our best friend, Jelly Roll, also a giant executive producer, because he's so nice to us, talking about us on Amazon and other podcasts.
Starting point is 02:03:18 What a great guy. He did an interview and said that we were his guilty pleasure podcast. And he had the look on his face was the look of someone telling about something that they really like. Yeah, these guys are hilarious and I was like, great. Thank you. What a guy, man.
Starting point is 02:03:31 Thank you. Other producers this week are Kelly snap and Alexis snap. I don't know if you know this, but she graduated from pharmacy school. Congratulations. Count those pills. Payton Meadows, Povellias, Povellias, Povellius, Povellius, what is this man? Povellius Pescevius? Wow, good one.
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Starting point is 02:07:16 Yeah, I don't know who it is. Yeah, but it's Beth, that's her name. Emma Roberts, Jennifer Hall, Sandra Ewing, Lindsay W885, Meg would know last name, Saraya Pariah, Sandra Ewing, Lindsey W. 885. Meg, with no last name, Saraya Pariah, peri area. Linda Duffini. Matt Horch, Rachael, it's probably Rachel, with no last name. Autumn Schmitz, Schmititis.
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Starting point is 02:08:00 I know what you're doing. Colby with no last name, Mariah White. Right. Dirty Al Green. Dirty Al Green. Not Dirty Al Green. He needs filth. Dirty Al Green, but dirty. Divine. Devaney. It's Divine DC. That's what that is. Randy Brown. Jackson with no last name. Kristin McNeil. Connor Pail. Pamela Doherty. Paula Welch. Melinda Wilson, Akiko Schoen, Christine Guggenberger, Emma Burns, Dylan Smith, Margaret Wright, Shakhty, is that Shakhty? Yeah. Brittany Rain, Rain, oh boy, Renee, Jordan Collard, Joel Lee, Moon, I think, Tyler Harris, Autumn Davis, Stephanie Marie, what is this? Alexandra Paradice, Paradis, Zachary Rydell, Patrick,
Starting point is 02:08:49 oh, Bakies, Jagger, Jagger, Muhay, Muhay, Penny, Jack, Mick's kid, Penny with no last name, Elliot Tilden, Josh Stanley, Brie B, Jenny Becerra, Sarah Goldsmith, Justin Simmons, Nick Vargas, Sherry Holm, Emma Louise, Anne Rice-Jones, Ellen T. Crosby, Anna, Anna, oh it's Rice, Reese Rice, Anna T. Contreras, oh Anna Contreras, Ellen T. Crosby, Rosie Cheeks, Megan Hale, Hale? Haley, Haley Ray, alright, Emily Revelles. It's falling apart. Heather with no last name. Stephanie Huber. Fred with no last name. Claymore
Starting point is 02:09:31 with no last name. Garrett Bowman, Jamie Southard, Southard, Sout-hard, Melinda Shacher, Hunter McLeed, Drew with no last name. Jeannie Ray, Scott Campbell, Mindful Movement, Damian Davis, Melissa Lalani, Leah Crago, Maguire Detlefson, I think it is, and Tristan Yacklin. He lost his battle to depression, man, and it's fucked up. Thank you so much, John, for spending that time with us. Thank you for being a part of this. Tristan, I'm furious. And if you've got fucking anything, you guys, fucking talk to somebody.
Starting point is 02:10:11 Reach out. Don't do this. I wanted to say to Jason Fuller, too, and Jason Fuller and his family, too. They had a bit of a tragedy. Super fucked up, man. Real sorry I'm thinking about you guys. Yeah, sorry, you, your wife.
Starting point is 02:10:22 You guys are really nice to us and have known you for so long. The victims are the ones left behind man. Don't do this to people. It's fucking horrible. Get help, reach out. Look, you're doing it because you're feeling like a burden. You're not and don't feel like that. If I knew the words, I'd fix it. Listen, if they're two hours into a comedy show and are two and a half hours into a Comedy show and there and right now they're considering it. We've done a terrible job really So really fucked this we've really fucked up if you're this far into the show, so we'll put it that way So hopefully we haven't put made it worse for you Definitely for sure talk talk it out. It's uh it's not worth it. Thank you everybody so much for what you do for us
Starting point is 02:11:06 and being there for us. You're amazing. Thank you for all that you do, we're blown away by it honestly. We can't thank you enough, we're so weird, we don't even know what to say about it because we're blown away by it. I literally think about you guys every day.
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