Crime in Sports - #413 - Knighted Father, Monster Son - Gary Brabham

Episode Date: June 18, 2024

This week, we look into the career & crimes of a man who is from racing royalty. His father was the first racer to be knighted, and left a large shadow that his son just couldn't seem to fill. His mediocre racing career left a a lot to be desired, but his crimes make you want to be sick. A terrible man, who carried on a "secret double life" for years, while fooling everybody into saying he was "a nice guy"!Never get out of your knighted father's shadow, embarrass your family by being the worst racer in the bunch, then embarrass them even more, with your horrendous, and disgusting crimes with Gary Brabham!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: [e-mail] Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports [e-mail] facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Because we're gonna talk about it it happens all sorts of weird industrial disasters were video of the of the of a Park disaster just recently a boy lost his goddamn leg. Oh, no, this is I Can't wait. So many people, this is I can't wait This is like 40 people instantly incinerated that kind of shit. Yeah, then for small-town murder We're gonna talk about a very weird thing here. We're gonna talk about the cannibal cop. Do you remember this story? Yes. Yes. Oh, he wrote all these Didn't actually do anything

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Well, a few different things. Open wheel? Come on. Yeah, it's Indy later on. It's European type shit. It's Gary Thomas Brabham. B-R-A-B-H-A-M. Brabham.

Brabham here. He is an Australian man, and he comes from a very famous Racing family. I'm on board. I'm listening his father's like his father is sir. Jack Brabham. So oh Yeah, we're taught his dad is like the god of Australian racing like he's yeah He's like mr. Fucking race over there. So from what I understand, very respected. I guess he's born in England, but he's in Australia for most of the time here. He is born March 29th, 1961 in Wimbledon, England.

Really? Yeah, nasty backhand. Yeah, there he is. His dad, like I said, Sir Jack, he's got brothers that are also racers. Jeff, David, Matthew is another one. He's a nephew, like I said, Sir Jack, he's got brothers that are also racers. Jeff, David, Matthew is another one. He's a nephew, and then Sam, another nephew.

So this is, whole family's racing. Long lineage of race family is bound to give you a real dirt bag. It's, and the thing is, they're like very wealthy, very like upstanding, and like, later on he'll be on the Australian Today show So like you know this in the morning Let's talk to him before his first Indy race because it's like oh

He's the son of this racing family and now he's gonna step up to this next thing and they talk to him and at the end It's over and they're like alright. Have a good one and the video goes away and the female host goes what a nice guy I Swear to God what a nice guy. I swear to God, what a nice guy. It's so fucking funny. Oh, those words will haunt you, sugar. It's not good, yeah, 20 years later, she looked like a real dummy.

Real fucking dummy. It's fascinating how that racing is like gentlemen's racing. Because in America, we have drag racing and NASCAR. Those are the ones that people watch the most. Yeah, things that were done to aid in a bet moon shining. Things of that. Yeah, to get away, yeah. And then eventually it turned into top fuel dragsters

and shit like that. It's like, go as fast as you can for very little time and see who wins that. Indy's a little different. The open wheel. Yeah, there's a little bit of that. It's not near as popular as the other shit though. No, but in the rest of the world,

it's 20 times more popular. It's like soccer. It's their soccer. Yeah, it's the rest of the world. That's what they watch. And it's kind of interesting to watch those street races in Europe where they have these crazy Indy cars that are like, you know.

Right, running through the fucking street. And they're on the street, like going around a turn where you'd be like, ah, hey, there's always traffic here in the morning every day on the way to work. And they're just zipping through it. Yeah, people are watching and going, I got a DUI right there. Yeah, look at that. It's where my cousin got hit on a bicycle by a drunk guy, right there.

It's where Jimmy Wissman ran him over with a truck after he had a couple too many. So anyways, he's in all sorts of different racing. He tries to work his way up to IndyCar, which doesn't really work out for him, as we'll talk about. But yeah, Formula One, he starts, I guess, for a while. That's where he has two entries in Formula One. His father is a three-time World Formula One champion. Sir Jack there, yeah.

He's a badass guy. He competed at Indy in the early 60s. Brabham started the rear engine revolution that altered the racing. Yeah, that altered racing. Everything was front engine before that. Yeah, he was a big proponent of the rear. How about that?

Yep, and he's been really good. The father was, I mean, he's a legend in Australia over there. Yeah, in the 60s, I can see it too. The Hot Wheels, I mean, he's a legend in Australia over there. Yeah, in the 60s, I can see it too. The Hot Wheels cars had the engine in the front. Those were open wheeled. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That is true. And then I guess he said, no, from the back. What are we doing? From the back, you fucking idiots. Yeah. Put it in the. Come on, put it in its ass. Let's go. We do it in the reverse in Australia.

Jesus Christ, yeah, we're down under, remember? So his mother is Betty Evelyn Bearsford and yeah she's apparently she allowed old Jack here old Sir Jack to do whatever he wanted in his racing and her job was you know raise the boys three boys and you know all that kind of kind of thing so he was I guess he was also Like to you know fuck around outside marriage a little bit here, sir. Jack. He's sir. Jack come on I mean, what is he supposed to do? Yeah, I'm sir. Jack. I'm a successful racer He likes to fly by the seat of his ass these guys like risk Yeah, but you get knighted and you're supposed to not get knighted pussy?

Yeah, I'll knight you. This is how I knight you. One penis on each shoulder. Bang, bang, bang in the forehead. There you go. That's how you do. Yeah. That's how it works.

So I don't know what to expect from this guy. And these guys, like I said, they like living on the edge. So a lot of times maybe a guy doesn't cheat because he's like, I don't want to get caught. This guy's not afraid of shit like that. He's like, I like the edge. So, you know, a lot of times maybe a guy doesn't cheat because he's like, I don't want to get caught. This guy's not afraid of shit like that. He's like, I like the risk. It's even more defy defy death every day. Yeah. I'm going to fuck her in the living room while my wife sleeps. You know, like something like that. Yeah, that'll be risky enough for me. Those pornos where the guy gets a blowjob from the other side of the other side, the other side of the bed. Yeah, that's the funniest. Like, what the hell is that?

I remember that. Is he like, why? Guide Sheets on sleeping wife? Yeah. The fucking bed is like rocking and she's like like the hands under her face. Like it's a water bed. Bops up and down. You're like, yeah, that's that seems natural. Sure, she wouldn't wake up at all. She wakes up and stretches and she's like, oh nice. Let me join you. Yeah, that's great Okay, very realistic. Yeah, so Jack's second marriage, you know, because the first marriage Sheets on her a ton and she's like listen, I'll stay home with the kids But I'm not you're not gonna just fuck around me. Yeah, so that was over by 1994 and

Jack ended up marrying his secretary Margaret 1999 in 1995 far and wide far and wide and it was right after he got divorced So this tells me she was the one he was banging his secretary for a long time and his wife found out And then he just married his secretary. Because she said, she said if you ever leave, you told me once you leave your wife, you're gonna marry me so here we are, let's do it. I guess she, the boys love their mother though and were kind of pissed off about all this.

But they were adults by then so. He's got, he's the middle child here here Gary. His brother is Jeff that's his older brother and David are his younger brothers. They're both successful race drivers as well. Right. And he'll have a couple of wives to Gary here. First up Wendy and then Rosina later on. So at first he didn't want to follow in his father's footsteps. No? No, at first he thought he was gonna be a farmer. In rural New South Wales, Australia, that was the spot.

So, then he said, no, I wanna, he started getting into cars and all that sort of thing. He actually said at one point, I saw in an interview with him where he said like, he, it would cost so much money to do this to race and to raise all this money that you know He just thought he'd just be a driving instructor instead Not like he thought like at least I can get a job because this is I'm not gonna be able to do this You go to the Brabham school of driving you're gonna. Yeah, it's gonna be successful. That's the thing

I think that's what he thought too. Like, well, you know, I got a good name and all that sort of thing. I have good genes, but this is, but he ended up going forward with it. But learning from Gary Brabham and not his dad. A little less illustrious. It's kind of like how acting classes work. We'll be like, you know, that famous actor? Yeah.

Well, his cousin runs a class. It's under the fucking bridge and you know, it's great, it's really great. But he has like the same last name, that's one of the requirements. Pitt's acting class. It's what I mean. It's his cousin, Gerald.

It's Gerald Pitt, you don't know him? Yeah, no, Jerry's okay, he's not bad, but he knows things. You can see it in his eyes, he just can't get it out. You know how it is. He's got connections, he has to, he's a fit. Yeah, you figure if he thinks you're good, then maybe he'll pass you along to Brad,

next thing you know you're in a big movie. So I think that's how it works. But that's how acting classes go, honestly. There's tons of untalented siblings that have acting schools out there. So he ends up making his racing debut in 1982. So he's 21 in Formula Fords. He finished his first race in third place, which is pretty good. And he broke the sand down Ford lap record in a nine year old car.

So people are very impressed with him. Very, very impressed. So he is hoping to debut in the UK in 1983. He's hoping to be in England here and he's trying to make it happen but it's a money thing apparently. So I guess he does apparently get to do this and get to drive.

This is the font. In England there and I guess his dad was gonna stand by and be like his right hand man there and all that kind of shit. Sure, crew chief. Because it helps him too. That makes people, the cameras are gonna be on his dad the whole time and people are gonna be looking at his dad.

He's gonna get a lot of attention. So that's pretty good. So he ends up, he doesn't, he goes to England like I said, because I guess he didn't get a lot of, nobody cared about him in Australia for some reason. Which is strange, I don't understand why, but he ends up. Too many Brabhams.

Too many Brabhams, he gets lost in the Brabham fold maybe, I'm not sure, and his brother's really good too, so I think that's, he's in like two shadows which is tough. It's hard enough if your dad's really successful at anything but then your older brother too like what are the odds you're gonna be good also? It's gotta be rough to be Rob Kardashian. It's yeah well yeah for many reasons it's gotta be rough to be any of those. Any of them yeah. Any of them really I mean the amount of surgeries you gotta keep having has got to be a lot. Too many people. I'm not into the doctor and that just seems like it's exhausting. I'm not judging them. I don't care what the

fuck they do but it looks like wow. I don't like going for checkups. Any of these pictures you see it's like the bandages must have just been removed because it's they're constantly well that's that looks completely different than it did last time I saw her. That can't be fucking natural. So they gotta stop passing those people off as actors too. And they put them in shows and stuff. Oh, yeah. Yeah. To get attention. Yeah. It's so obnoxious. It's like, come on. You gotta stop with that shit. Is she reading it off of her hand? This is not even good. What are we doing? Stop acting like this is the same as everybody else in the show. It really shows when someone's around, you know, professionals.

I saw an animated show that Kim Kardashian did a voice in and even in fucking animation you could tell. That she's lazy? Yeah. Well, she played an alien, which was perfect. So like her weird flat affect fit the alien. But she wasn't trying to, it was like, what character would she fit?

A fucking alien from outer space. Something that's not of this world. Yeah, she's like a horny alien, perfect. Of course it's horny, why wouldn't it be? Yeah, of course it's horny. Please pee on me. American Horror Story and she leaves like an air of flirty horny shit out there

It's just fucking bizarre. I don't like it at all every time. She's on the screen. I'm just no no I reject this I reject this I refuse to accept that's acting no It's not well because it takes you out of it too because yeah It's when someone's just themself for so long and then oh oh, now you're an actor, it's just strange. Right, right, which are you? You're not a character, you're you. Play you, cameos. Right, are you a personality, are you a fucking character?

Figure it out. Well, you're too famous to do anything with cameos at some point, unless you are an actor, and then that's a different story. But otherwise, you have to do cameos as yourself. Otherwise, it's like, why is that guy there? Well, Cato Cailin, you wouldn't recognize him probably. That's the thing.

He could slip in, you'd never recognize him. You think so? Nowadays, yeah, look at him. Oh, probably today, yeah. I don't know what he looks like now. Once he cut that hair, he looks like everybody else. That hair was the whole, oh, it was great. I remember watching him on the stand

and I was like, how long did it take him? To make it, yeah. To do that. Like he has to go to the salon and get, there's like highlights in it. Oh, his shower had more shit in it than Nicole's, I guarantee it. Absolutely, I mean it looks like this is like

a three and a half hour at the salon event for him to get his hair done. It's not like a- Nicole had shit hair. He had amazing hair. His hair was wild, man. That shit was incredible. But yeah, once you're that famous,

you have to be yourself. You just gotta be that. You gotta be in the show because you're that, the plot point is that Cato Kaelin is having lunch here. Like that's gotta be it. Well that's OJ in a movie. The joke was kind of, here's OJ. He didn't play like a serious dramatic part,

it was kind of like, you know, it's, look it's OJ, you know what I mean? There's a leading rusher being drugged by a car underneath on a carpe crawler. When he's a naked gun, like the way he reacts to things is so silly and that fits the comedy, but it's also the best he can do, you know what I mean? When he's like, hits the wet paint and he's like,

oh, and you know, oh, burns his hands. If it was a good actor doing that, it wouldn't be funny. It's just funny because it's so fucking cheesy. That's the point of it. Yeah, but a good actor is a good actor. And they should be rewarded for it. Exactly. Be slighted by giving roles that a good actor

should be doing to some asshole. Some actor that would have been happy getting scale so he could pay his rent that month. It's probably like, what the fuck? It probably overpaid that asshole too. Yeah, oh absolutely. You know they did. Yeah, sure they did. So in 1984, Brabham here, nothing to do with Cato Kaelin or anything like that.

Sorry, that's a sign. We ran down the trail. We went way down. We went from Kim Kardashian to OJ, which isn't that far off. It's not a far stretch. It's not a far stretch because they know each other. They do. They met.

She called him Uncle OJ, Uncle Juice as a child, so I'm sorry. Our brains just knew those two things together her father and OJ were best friends 20 years so young she probably had OJ with OJ yeah I'm sure in the in the OJ 10 part fucking whatever the hell series with Cuba Gooding jr. one of the things David Schwimmer says is juice juice please don't kill yourself in Kim's bedroom swearwear to God cuz he had his gun that was out in the bedroom. You're like ah god I Wish you had I wish yeah, it might have it might have traumatized her to the point of she wouldn't have done any of this shit We couldn't get suck a dick ever again. Well. She could have just got her job after instead of all this shit like I don't want

Anybody looking at me. I just feel uncomfortable I'm like, I don't want anybody looking at me. I just feel uncomfortable. I had to scrape Uncle Juice's brains off my walls. Off my barbies. Off my new kids on the block poster. Whatever the fuck she had in 1994. So anyway, Brabham here. I don't know what the fuck he's doing. I don't know what any of this racing is and I'm not going to pretend like I do. Please find our ignorance charming, we don't know. It's essentially pole position in real life

and that game was a piece of shit too. Yeah, it seems kind of stupid here. He remained with the series in 1984. It was named P-E-N-I-S-T-O-N-E, penis stone. What? I'm sure it was penistone, but it's penis tone. Tone, not stone. Put it up to your ear. It's not penistone.

Put it up to your ear and see if you can hear the penis tone. That's beef, but there it is. Leave your name after the penis tone. You can tell how big it is by when you slap it on a table next to a phone you can hear the penis tone. What's the tone on that? How high pitched or low pitched it is. Oh my god.

I just had, I don't know what else he was doing but it was still on. He raised penis stone. He raised penis stone here. There's an article though in 84 that said the headline is Gary's on target okay he's doing great champion world champion's son Gary Brabham that's right away shit world champions son is on target to become Britain's top formula Ford 2000 racer that's very specific after finishing second twice at the weekend. The- Formula Ford 2000 in 1984?

Yeah, I don't know how big that could be. The 23 year old son of Sir Jack Brabham, he doesn't even have a name now. He went from champion son, they named the dad. Now it's just that, was beaten home by Irishman Martin Donnelly on Saturday, then qualified on the front row for last Sunday's penultimate round of the BBC Grandstand Trophy Championships Wow, holy shit. I guess he's living in England now and

Yeah Barrick's team penis stone racing Were penalized a thousand pounds which went to charity. What, for their terrible name? For making the announcers repeatedly say penis tone? Oh my God. Ah, fuck, if you have a company and it's called Penistone, why are you jockeying for it to be named anything? Yeah.

Naming anything. And how's that not a record company back in the day? Penistone Records. If said in a smooth enough voice, it's not bad. Come to penis tone. It was a record company for somebody wandering around strip malls in the 70s. I'm signing kids for penis tone. No, that's who made 70s porn music. The walk-a-chicka-bop-a-damp-damp. It's penis tone records made it.

Penisone Records. They knew ahead of time to make sure to get that shit locked down and trademark it because everyone was gonna want it oh my god so I guess he tried his hand at other categories in 18 1984 he raced sports cars in the Thunder sports series oh there and then 80 sports cars I guess what are we doing like a like an 83 Dodge Charger with louvers on it just Chevy Vega what are we what are we racing here exactly? Bad cars. There's a lot of bad cars. A Monte Carlo Super Sport from 82.

What are we racing? Top speed at 88 miles an hour. Yeah, zero to 60 in 12 seconds. Very exciting race there. That's excellent. Nobody could even get a ticket in this race. It was hard. You had to get up by the second lap, you could get. Nobody could even get a ticket in this race. It was hard. You had to get up like by the second lap you could get up enough speed to get a ticket.

He also, he drove an 800 mile an hour, or 800 horsepower. 800 mile an hour would be amazing. Wow. I'd watch that shit. I'm interested in. Hell yeah. 800 miles an hour, Gary. You're no longer the son of champion.

You're 800 mile an hour guy, Gary Brabham. An 800 horsepower Porsche 911 rally car. Fuck. That sounds awesome in the British Rally Cross Grand Prix. And unlike Paul Walker, he survived to tell the tale. That's gotta be like a turbocharged V6 or something. I don't know what the hell they were putting in the early 80s. Porsche didn't have a V8.

I thought they had a, what the fuck is that called? They had a flat four and then the straight sixes and the flat sixes too. Fuck, I can't imagine they had a goddamn V8, but they had to. 800 horsepower? 800 horsepower. There's no way they got that out of a six cylinder. Maybe they just stuck like five turbos on it, just like it's all fucking gassed up with turbos.

There's turbos all over this baby, I'll tell you what. The radio's turbo, you hit the dial thing, it flies up the dial, you gotta be careful, it goes fast. It's air cooled, but the brakes have got turbos's all turbo I'm sorry be careful so he did that and he came in fourth in the BBC grandstand series okay in one instance at Snederton which is the most English sounding town I've ever heard of Snederton it's too close to snot snot. Snatterton? No, it doesn't sound good.

That's a place people are like, I'm gonna get out of Snetterton right now. I can't take it anymore in this fucking town, I tell you what. I had to give a redneck. A little bit of Snetterton in my lungs. My grandpops died of the Snetterton, I tell you what. So we give him a little rednecky in there, I'll tell you what. You're a touch of Alabama since he's a racer too.

Had to try. So he also drove that in 85. He thought he had a car lined up all ready to go in 85. He returned to Australia for Christmas and then he was going to come back and it was all ready for the next year. He returned to Australia for Christmas and then he was gonna come back and it was all ready for the next year and then it didn't happen. The deal fell through. He had no car. So if you have no car and you're a racer you're kind of fucked. You kind of need one of those. You're not a racer. No, you're just a guy with like a jumpsuit who's real excited to do

something that he can't do. It separates me from David Reinhart Jr. You have one of those? You're like an eight-year-old at that point. Yeah, I could buy a suit. Sitting in front of the TV with a football and you're like, I got no field or helmet, but I got a football. I can buy a flame resistant suit. Oh, no problem.

I guarantee it. A hat with like STP on it? No worries. Easy. It's a good wrench hat. I could get one. No problem. I got that. Some gloves. With the hat, I could get one. No problem, I got that. Some gloves, but the car.

I could get the car, yeah. That's the main issue there. So that all fell through, so he resorted to truck racing. Okay. Which is not what I don't think English people. Early adopter. Well yeah, and it doesn't seem very English also. No, no.

That seems like a very American thing to do, to race a truck. The trucks there, I can't imagine they were super fast. No? I don't know. I have shit, I don't know what he was, 85, 85. We didn't have NAS truck and fast trucks here until god damn 90s.

He raced a seven and a half ton Leland Road train at the British Truck GP at Brands Hatch. Seven and a half ton Leland Road train at the British truck GP at Brands Hatch. I don't know. Seven and a half, that's a big fucking truck. That's what I was gonna say. Imagine like five garbage trucks racing. That'd be hilarious.

Or like a bunch of tow trucks. It's like three USA ones. Yeah, that's a lot of trucks, man. That's a lot of truck. That's a lot of trucks. So I don't know what was going on. I don't know how fast or what the speeds were there. But a Ford F750, is that what that seven and a half tons, that's what that would be.

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One of British motor racing's most famous trophies. Well, obviously we've all dreamt of that as a child How many nights did you lay awake in bed? dreamt of that as a child. How many nights did you lay awake in bed dreaming of the Alton Park Gold Cup being in your grasp and being able to show it to everybody to look what I did? That's one of the most famous ones, huh? Apparently so. You could have... Two dozen people know what it is? You could have given that to me as a kid and I would have went like, what do I do with this piece of shit? I don't even know. I like my little league trophies more important than this. This is garbage. Wouldn't know what it was. Not exactly what the Stanley Cup.

No. So it says the 23-year-old Australian son of former world champion Jack Brabham today joined former ski queen Davina Gallica in a new team aiming to repeat history at Alton Park, a challenging circuit set in the Cheshire countryside. What the fuck are you talking, so how does this work? Yeah. Him and like a model, a ski queen, or I guess she'd be like maybe an Olympic skier.

Some lady who's not a race car driver, is she in the passenger seat, is that part of it? She complains that she has to pee for the half the black Dragon her on like roller blades. Oh, that would be great if she's like, yeah That's a sport. I want to see there He says quote my father won the gold cup there on four occasions 57 64 66 and 67 I would love to follow his success Said Gary at the launch of the Kelly Girl Thunder

Sports team in London today. Yikes. That's got to stink, man. Just every article, lead is... Oh yeah, your dad's... Dad's son. A pouch. You got to win some shit or else it's going to stay like that.

It said, he's no stranger to thunder sports, long distance motor racing and 180 mile an hour sports cars. Having driven to victory at Snederton last August. He said, that was the first 180 first win of my racing career. It really meant everything to me. He said he was driving at age 12 and hopes to eventually copy his father's grand plea success. He says, they're going as fast as NASCAR's Grand Prix success, he says. They're going as fast as NASCAR's, James. That's fucking fast. That's very fast, 180, in a distance. The other, the Davina Gallica, it says,

Gallica, 39, twice led Britain's Olympic ski team before returning to motor racing. In a sport dominated by men, she quickly made her mark, breaking five British speed records and winning a place with the Hesketh Grand Prix team. She's just a badass driver. Yeah. I didn't think they had women drivers back then in the sport. That's why I was like oh what's she doing in there but apparently she's a bad motherfucker. I guess if you're on the Olympic ski team, the crazy like Olympic skiing, your balls have to be massive. Man, woman, child, I don't give a fuck.

That is a crazy fucking thing to do. Downhill shit, fuck yeah. Insane, the jumping, fuck that. So if you're ballsy enough for that, I guess racing is right up your alley. I'm impressed by the people that just do the slalom shit. No jumps at all, just back and forth around flags and shit. That's so fast and they're turning on a dime.

Every time they turn you're like, eh, broken legs. Snap your ankle. My knee would explode. Your ACL is gone. And okay. I don't know how they do it. So Gary said, there are not many women racing drivers about, but what I have seen out of Davina as a driver, I know she is competitive and very quick.

Okay. So yeah, there you go. He landed a ride here for the TechSpeed Racing Team. Hell yeah. In a two liter, Shrike P15 Ford. Two liter, that's. Two liter, that's a four cylinder. I guess, yeah, it's a tiny fucking engine.

But I mean, like you said, you could have 100 turbos, who knows. Yeah, if you got that thing souped up, man, anything's possible. Those two liter but I mean like you said you could have a hundred turbos who knows yeah If you got that thing souped up man anything's possible those two liter the VTACs are two liters and those things will do 150 miles an hour down a drag you can get them nasty they get off they get off the line quick to you can make them There's light So he came in second five times I guess him and Davina as a team race, because they're long distance so I think they trade off or whatever, because it's one of those, because we've done

like the 24 hour races where they trade off every few hours and it's a bunch of different drivers. So in 86, his father got a team together under the banner of Jack Brabham Racing. Did he hire his kid? He did. Gary did nine out of 18 British F3 rounds. He said, sorry son. I don't have any room for you. In a Ralt VW RT30 and managed some good results. He came in second at Silverstone, fifth in the championship with 22 points and he was

awarded the Calnet Motor Racing Award for best up and coming British and Commonwealth driver. Shit yeah. So he's like rookie of the year here. So 1986 is when he finds his first lady here. I don't know if it's his first that he's ever been with. I'm sure he's humped on something. But first he's gonna marry here.

And this is from, what's the date, May 11th, 1986. And it said Sir Jack Brabham's lad is Out with the begging is out with the begging bowl. So not only what you're a beggar and you're not even a person with a name He doesn't have a name. You know the paragraph we won't even dignify you Wow, it said Gary Brabham 24 is so skint. I Wow, it said Gary Brabham 24 is so skint, I guess that means broke, that his budding motor racing career is in danger of stalling on the starting grid. He's posted more than 1,000 letters to companies pleading for sponsorship for his one car Formula 3 outfit.

I didn't know there was- I just need one car, guys. There's Formula 3? I didn't know Formula 1 was like a, like, you know, that's crazy. Is there Formula 2? There must be, because there's formula three. I didn't know formula one was like a like, you know, that's crazy. There's, is there formula two? There must be cause there's formula three. How many formulas are there? It's gotta be formula four, right? Formula seven is just like Nissan Altima's with no alterations.

All stock driving in mall racing and mall parking lots of abandoned malls. The baby seat. Yeah, baby seat. And you have to do that spilling your Starbucks. With a baby seat. Yeah, baby seat. And you have to do it without spilling your Starbucks. That's also there. You have to have a full fucking to the top steamy drink. And there's a doll in the baby seat with sensors on it. It cries. If it gets knocked around too much, you lose points.

Every once in a while, you have to stop and change its diaper, too. Everyone has to. That's like the pit stop. You have to stop. Oh, shit. Yeah, otherwise it'll cry. You get docked for that. You get dock docked for that. It's very you get docked time for that

It's it's a tough sport Formula 7 man, watch out Apparently nobody wants it. They say that's how hungry he is to follow in the tire tracks of his Australian father They just keep trying to find new ways to say it too, which is hilarious It's so funny the tire tracks of his father. The back seat of his father's car. Oh man who won the World Drivers Championship three times and is the only man to be knighted for his services to motorsport. Unreal. So that's he's the the king the Lord of Motorsports this guy. Wow that's amazing. Young Gary has had a lucky break for today's

race supporting the Monaco Grand Prix in a 75 pound one-off joint sponsorship by Shell Oils and the Brands Hatch Circuit Management. But Wendy, his Australian bride of five months, is still his number one sponsor. Gary, who rents a bungalow a few hundred yards from his workshop at the Brands Hatch Circuit, says, Wendy is a marvel. When we came here after the wedding back home in Wagga Wagga, that's where they live, Wagga Wagga, she got a job as a secretary to the catering manager at Brands Hatch. She is the breadwinner who keeps us going and pays the bills I run up. She pays pays all the living expenses even goes out to buy pies and sandwiches to keep us going at race meetings Yeah, wow she sends. She's great

Well, he says it right here quote Wendy is a winner And what keeps her going is her belief that I can be the winner. I can be a winner at the wheel of a racing car Wow, so they said Sir Jack, now 60, has given Gary's dream project a limited financial liftoff, but with the team's only car costing £23,000 and engines at £7,500 at a time, expenses for a full season would be around £130,000. And he says Dad can't afford that kind of money. People seem to think he is in the Nicky Lauda class for money, but that isn't so. Well, Nicky Lauda, obviously. I mean, clearly.

He's really killing it. Who's in that class? I mean, honestly, that's ridiculous to think that. Nicky's got it all. He doesn't believe in giving anything on a plate, especially to his sons. He reckons it would make us too soft. He certainly wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth. When he first came to Britain in the 1960s, not only designed his own car, he had to build it himself, including the engine.

Really? Yeah. Gary says, to illustrate how the money side of the game has gone bonkers, Dad told me that the Brabham, oh hospitality bill, sorry it's a newspaper article, it's kind of like goofy at the bottom, hospitality bill for drinks now outstrips the total amount he used to run for a two-car team. So now just the food, just food and drinks, just fucking crafty is a more than fucking, that's wild. Wow, so Gary says he has to choose his races carefully because he doesn't have a lot of money.

He says, for instance, I had to miss the recent race at Thruxton because that's an abrasive circuit and I would have needed three sets of tires at 400 pounds a set. We just can't afford that kind of outlay. So it's, the road's rough, you go through tires there, we can't afford the tires. We can't put $1,200 out. Yeah, it's, the road's rough, you go through tires there, we can't afford the tires. We can't put $1,200 out.

Yeah, that's wild, man. He said, I don't know where the next cash transfusion, I think he means infusion, not transfusion, but that's fine. It could be a transfusion, but mostly it's infusion. Trans means they've taken it all and then given it back. Yeah, or somebody, well you took it from someone and put it in you, I guess, could be that.

So transfusion, sort of, but I think infusion's probably more common. He said if it's one ever comes at all. They said despite the nagging financial worries and an attack of glandular fever, glandular fever earlier in the year, a fever of the glands apparently. I don't know what the fuck that is. My glands got hot. Man, I got hot glands all over the year. A fever of the glands apparently. I don't know what the fuck that is. My glands got hot. Man, I got hot glands all over the place. Gary has made his mark in

Formula 3 with a second place by breaking the lap record at Brands by a full half second. He says, quote, every Formula 3 race sees 30 cars lined up. Of those drivers, at least 80% want to make it into Formula 1. Well, I would fucking hope so. What are they doing in 3? Why would... It should be 100%. Yeah, all of them. What the fuck are they doing otherwise?

Only one will get there if he's very lucky. Only the tough ones make it in this game, and I believe I'm one of the few. To be honest, I expected the Brabham name to be a lot more help to me than it has been so far. It's all they've said about you, man. It doesn't get me sponsors, it just gets me where my name doesn't come up to the second paragraph of an article about me. That's all it does for me. And the Brabham name has gotten you in a car where 20% of the field doesn't give a fuck about this.

They don't even wanna be here. Like I'm thinking about dropping down to Formula 6, man. This is, it's too much work. He said, still I'll keep sending out the sponsorship letters and we won't starve as long as Wendy keeps paying those grocery bills. Oh my. Oh my God, so there's that.

Interesting, so there's that. Interesting. So, 1986 here, they talk about more on him. I guess, Brabham, they say. Apparently he was, they're talking about him being a chauffeur at this point, chauffeuring someone around here. Well, not like literally here, but I'll read the article. You hurtle into Paddock Hill Bend at 95 miles an hour. The track drops away alarmingly to the right and you enter the sharp corner with all the anticipation of being catapulted over a cliff. That sounds like a fucking roller coaster here. The professionals say that whoever goes into Paddock Hill the quickest is the bravest.

There's no room for faint hearts. Cars have been known to mingle with the scenery if taken into the bend wrongly at only 40 miles an hour. Fly off into the woods. We are doing over twice that and the F1 drivers will be going twice as fast as we are. At those speeds, Paddock Hill must be like feeling like lifting off at Cape Kennedy. Brands is one of the world's true racetracks, a genuine examination of a driver's technique, nerve and enterprise. Blind corners, dips, crests and twists. Sounds dangerous as fuck.

It is the perfect balance to the high-speed circus where sheer power and speed are everything, an extracting test demanding concentration at the highest level. I confess objectively to some trepidation after agreeing to be chauffeured and talked through the bends and hazards of the 2.61-mile circuit, despite the credentials of 25-year-old Gary Brabham. Oh, he's riding along. Yeah, one of the most promising Formula 3 drivers in Britain, he holds the lap record for 1.2 mile Brands Hatch Club circuit of 43.8 seconds, averaging 98 miles an hour of speed.

Our car was a Brands Hatch Racing School Ford Escort XR3i. I don't care about those letters, it's an escort. It's a Ford Escort, yeah. I mean, anything you put inside a Ford Escort that makes it very fast it's just funny because it's a Ford Escort going really fast that's silly that just shouldn't be that is funny I knew somebody back in the day in the 90s who had a Ford Escort GT yep my best friend down the street that was his first car and he was pumped jacked black it was white with effects and low. Oh no. He didn't. He did. He did. It was low. No,

put house speakers in it and thought it was the shit. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. It's a piece of trash, man, but he loved it. He certainly loved it. Said it's built for speed, but a more, a mere tortoise compared to the F1 cars. It would take us more than two minutes to complete the circuit, which seemed very quick to me. Yet the lap record set last year in the European Grand Prix by Jacques Lafitte is one minute and 11.52 seconds, average speeds of 131.56 miles an hour. While in practice for that race, Ayrton Senna lapped at over 140 miles an hour.

My God! They said, such has been the development of F1 cars that Gary, who has just clinched a sponsorship deal with Panasonic, now laps brands faster in his F3 car that his father did in 1966 when he won the last F1 World Championship. So I think they're saying the cars now, even the F3 are faster than the old F1s were. Yeah, they're very impressive. Now, it's funny, because in 2024, every car is fast.

Yeah, it's a fucking jet minus wings. It's crazy how fast those things are. I don't even mean here. You can buy a Hyundai and step on it, and it's pretty fucking fast. Every car is pretty good. You know what I mean? Like even shit cars aren't bad. A Kia is pretty fucking fast for the most part. Yeah, it's interesting. So they say a few hours before our drive, he's been first at the scene of a pretty horrendous crash during

testing at the circuit. One of his fellow drivers, Mike Wilds, had careened head-on at more than 100 miles an hour into a crash barrier at Clearways. Jesus. The front of his sports car had disintegrated and Mike was trapped with his knees pressed against his chin. Gary had stood by with a fire extinguisher in case the car exploded while Mike was cut out, suffering from only cuts and bruises. Holy. Gary himself crashed his 33,000 pound F3 Ralt at Silverstone at 120 miles an hour a few weeks earlier, causing $5,000 worth of damage to the car.

He says, if you think you're going to get killed one day, though, you'll never drive. Yeah. That's what I mean, you can't have any, you have to be a psychopath, egomaniacal lunatic. Like when the military, the guys they look for for fighter pilots or like delusionally crazy and egotistical, that's how you have to be to be these guys. Because otherwise if you think about it, you're going to crash. These cars are meant to collapse and destroy

around you. To not kill you. the safety in these is second to none. This is probably the safest driving you can do. And people still die. Yeah, if it flips over, you're fucked. That's what I mean. You're just your head dangling out of that. It's boom, boom, boom, boom. You're just gonna bounce every time.

That would suck, you'd hit your head and then you'd have like a half a second while it flips again and you're like, I wonder if it's, ow, I wonder if it's, ow, I wonder if it's, ow, every wonder if it's, I wonder if it's out. Every time it just keeps going. So they said, uh, anyway, so yeah, Gary was doing that sort of thing. And uh, I guess this track is pretty fucking wild.

I believe that what they're, what they're saying here, he said at one point he was only driving at six tenths of his potential. Gary says it's best to take an early approach to the bend, then apex on the dip afterwards. Well, thanks, Gare. I mean, that's driving, man. That doesn't say, doesn't that, how you go into any turn in any car? I was just driving yesterday and I was like, you know. You go into the apex and then you accelerate.

That's how it goes, man. I took the Corvette out on a windy road on purpose, the old car, and I was like, you know. You go into the apex and then you accelerate. That's how it goes, man. I took the Corvette out on a windy road on purpose, the old car, and I'm like, yay. It's like, slow down. Rrrr, out of the thing. That's great. There it is, yeah.

That's exactly what you do. You feel like a race car guy. Yeah, yeah, except going 30 miles an hour. Yeah. Because it's a really windy road. A Mario and Drift. Yeah, I actually, Sarah actually had it recorded so you can see it.

Oh, nice. Maybe I'll post it just to show, look at me, I'm a race car guy. Look at me racing. I'm going 28 right now around this fucking turn. Oh my God, I'm trying not to crash though. So they said that Gary said apologetically, I was only driving at six tenths of my potential.

I hope you didn't find it too boring because he took a guy around. So that's how it goes here. He's chauffeuring around a know, I hope you didn't find it too boring, because he took a guy around. So that's how it goes here. He's chauffeuring around a writer, I guess. So I don't know what he's doing. I don't know how to read these fucking stats at all. In 86, he did a bunch of races. Looks like he came in, let's see, sixth, 11th, second,

fifth, 10th, fourth, fifth, fourth, 15th, fourth. It's a lot of top 10. That's fifth in total points, eleventh, second, fifth, tenth, fourth, fifth, fourth, fifteenth, fourth. It's a lot of top ten. That's fifth in total points, I guess, for the whole circuit there. 1987, here's an article where they mention his name before his father's. How about it? He's broken through. Farningham's young motor racer, Gary Brabham, picked up third prize in the 15,000 pound CalNet Awards presentation

at the London Hilton recently. So look at him. He's not the son of somebody. Formula one star Nigel Mansell. Jesus Christ, could you be more British? Sounds like a... Nigel. Yeah, that's the big guy.

Could it be any other country in the world that has Nigel Mansell? In cars, if the villain was British, that would have been his name. That's very impressive. Absolutely. Nigel Mansell. Mansell sounds like a car. Wasn't that one of the villains in the Herbie movies? Like an old, Nigel Mansell, with his car, he's gonna get Herbie out of the way. I don't know. What a fun car, that thing was alive. Ah, it was great, it was a bug, it blinked its fuckin'

personality. Yeah, it blinked its little eyes and everything, it was fuckin' dope. Crazy. I liked that shit when I was a kid. So, this, I guess here's a sponsorship, they said that he handed over a personal sponsorship contract worth over 1,500 pounds and a trophy

to the 24-year-old Gary at the star-studded reception. The star-studded reception. 1,500 bucks is what this guy won. It doesn't say who was there and that he won $1,500. What stars were studying this fucking place? Wasted their time. Come on, man. So March of 1987, here is a headline, Brabham Eyes Hat Trick.

Okay, that's great. Gary Brabham, 25, second of Sir Jack Brabham's three racing driver sons. At least his name came first. That's a, it's improvement. Still first paragraph. He has two others. came first. That's an improvement. Still first paragraph. He has two others. Yeah, and there's two others.

Hopes to complete a family treble by winning the first race of the season at Silverstone Saturday. Elder brother Jeff, 33, driving a Nissan won the opening round of the LMSA series in Miami, Florida at the weekend. Youngest of the trio, David, 21, was awarded first place in the opening drive of the season at the Wheel of a Van Demon at Orem Park in Sydney in his native Australia in the Coca-Cola Championship. Oh my God, so they are pumping him up to win as the third son.

This weekend. To win. Oh, Jesus. Both his brothers won this weekend already. Now he's going to win. What if he doesn't? What if now he's a loser? Loser son of Sir Jack Brabham, Gary.

The third most successful son. My God, man. He said that Gary explained that David was in the lead on the last lap when he crossed the brow of a hill only to be balked by a standard oh a stranded back marker wow okay David spun said Gary and then T-boned but and then was T-boned by one of the chasing cars but the officials decided the result on the penultimate lap which gave David first place because they had to do it was a big this all happened at the end so the officials had to decide what happened Gary will drive a Ralt Brabham VW in the Formula

3 championship opening race announced a major sponsorship deal with Panasonic. So he's got Panasonic here. Panasonic backed him for 15 out of 19 rounds in 1987. Good for him. He won two races at Silverstone and Donington coming in sixth overall with 37 points. So, and his race is fifth, second, first, fourth, fourth, seventh, ninth, 33rd, seventh, first, sixth, fifth. Not bad. That 33 had to be something broken, right? There's no way that that's just what it is that day. There's like three, four races where you were tired too,

where your car broke or some shit happened, and I don't know, he had to shit really bad and he couldn't be out there. He showed his versatility though in 87 by driving a Group A Toyota Supra rally car. That's pretty fucking badass. That's pretty cool. Hell yeah. At the British Rally Sprint Round in 87 too.

Those are pretty, you don't see those a lot. A bit boxy and fun. Yeah. At Brands Hatch coming a marvelous third. Marvelous, the article said. He then returned briefly to Australia and then in the Bathurst 1000 Bathurst? Or maybe it might be Batheurst possibly sharing a works BMW M3 with Juan Manuel's Fangio the second. Running a thousand miles in one of those? That's so fun. That's pretty awesome. It was up to fifth before Fangio glanced a stricken car in the rain god damn it

Fangio you idiot one ruined my life one Manuel dickhead fuckhead nice job crashed it crashing my bullshit So I guess he does well, I mean people are saying you look at how great he's doing But then he's not he's still in know, F12, which is a problem here. Not good. 1988 for the British F3 championship, he joined Bowman Racing to race a Ralt VW RT32 and he did well, I guess, and finished, let's see, they said he finished second. He won four races to finish second in points that year in 88

so not bad and he did it was ninth fifth second third fourth twenty first second fourth third second second first eighth first eighth first first he's got a he won a few that's right if he comes in eighth he's winning the next race so watch for that. And he came in second with 81 points. And very good. He also won the Scottish Super Prix and the Alton Park Gold Cup, which as we know, prestigious. Yeah, it's the most famous. Yeah, so emulating Hill to the honor of emulating their fathers.

Oh, he beat Hill to emulate his fathers, who both had won the trophy. There we go. So here's an article on the whole dynasty, the Brabham dynasty. Here comes Jack's sons. This is from the Sydney Morning Herald, August of 1988. So for Gary Brabham, the last four years have been tough.

And one of the things that has made life so hard is his name, Brabham. One would think a young racing car driver whose father happened to be Jack Brabham would have made it, and that's the problem. Everybody assumed just that. Gary arrived in Britain determined to make it to Formula One racing, he couldn't find a sponsor. He said, they just looked at me and said, your old man's rich, why doesn't he help you?

To a point, yeah. If he doesn't believe in you, why should I? Yeah, he's fucking knighted for Christ's sake. Yeah, and if they didn't say that, they say, you're a Brabham, how come you can't find a sponsor? There must be something wrong with you. Yeah, exactly. But Sir Jack Brabham, three-time World Formula One Champion, has no intention of overshadowing his sons.

Well then stop going by sir, and that'll help. That'll help a lot. No intention. No intention of overshadowing them with my knighthood. Sorry. The Queen touched me with a sword for fuck's sake. It's cool. It's fine.

Don't worry about it. That's fucking incredible. Yeah, no intention of overshadowing. If any one of them makes World Championship, it will be all their own work. He said, quote, I can't hold the wheel for them. That's what Jack says. I give them all the advice, but then it's up to them. All three sons are into it, obviously.

He said, I didn't plan it that way, but it's good. It gives me something to do. Gary said he and David, the youngest, became interested in racing when their father wasn't around. Whenever Sir Jack went overseas, they would climb onto the tractors on their farm near Wagga Wagga and belted around the place, quote unquote. And it said, Elvis, eldest son, not Elvis son,

eldest son Jeffrey went into motor racing early and did well in Formula Three in Britain, but he failed to raise the enormous sums of money he needed to get into Formula One as well. And Jeffrey's now racing sports cars successfully in America for Nissan on a comfortable salary. And they said he'll probably never race Formula One, but he's happy doing what he enjoys.

Gary and David are determined to have a crack at Formula One. But Gary says, success was not determined by ability on the track, but by powers of persuasion off the track. He's like, you need sponsors. That's what it's all about. Being a good driver doesn't fucking matter if nobody's paying for you to drive, which is true.

And he said, this is the year he has been able to concentrate on driving without being distracted by trying to find money and all the secondary jobs he had to do for himself. His first two years in Britain were so hard he nearly gave up. In 1985 he didn't drive at all. He said, I was just mentally exhausted. I didn't get to a stage where I wanted to get in the car. So then he ended up going better. And he said, if you've got good backers, they want you to win. So they

give you what you need. That makes sense. They're big enough to take you to Formula one. That'd be good. So yeah, that's, that's the problem here is money, money, money, money is what this is all about. This isn't like, Oh, I'm making the team. And then you go there. You got to raise your own fucking money. It's gotta be the most expensive sport on the planet. It's so expensive to race anything. You have to be, you have to have great sponsors or win a lot or else you're fucked essentially here.

So he came in fifth at Macau or Massau, I don't know, and won the Bruce McLaren Motor Racing Award. Oh, it's gotta be the guy that made the McLaren, right? Oh yeah, it has to be. Is there more McLarens out there? I don't know. So they said he's gonna test in Formula One, October 1988. Okay.

So he's gonna make it. Gary Brabham, 27, second of three-time world champion, second son of three-time world champion, Sir Jack Brabham, will soon be at the wheel of a Grand Prix car. Wow. By winning the Cellnet Formula 3 Super Prix at Brands Hatch yesterday, he collected not only the £4,000 first prize, but also the chance of a day's testing in a Benetton Formula 1 car probably in December. So that's what he's gonna do. Lucky him. So I guess he during the year they say Brabham already proven his testing abilities when he had developed the

Avon radial tire for F3 use. Oh, Avon's great. 1989 here I guess he was supposed to drive 1989 here, I guess he was supposed to drive for somebody, but he ended up not driving for somebody that was supposed to be a bigger sponsor, and he ended up getting a lower one. He drove in the British F3000 series with Bromley Motorsport. I don't even know what the hell that is. I imagine it's a team, huh? Oh yeah, I know it's a, but I don't know what they're racing. I don't know if they're racing lawn mowers or what. I have no fucking clue.

He also managed to secure some outings in the International F3000 Series for a Bromley and Leighton House teams in Raynard 89D Cosworth. Is that a car? Is it a place? I don't know. I have no clue what the hell that is. 1989, he's testing a new Mazda. For the first time ever Mazda cars UK will enter the competitive world of single seater

racing at Snederton circuit. For me that is a single seat. I can rest my elbows on both windows of those things. That's scary. So they're building those and I guess Brabham is one of the people in. We've all been there, turning to the internet to self-diagnose our inexplicable pains, debilitating body aches, sudden fevers, and strange rashes. Though our minds tend to spiral to worst-case scenarios, it's usually nothing, but for an unlucky few, these unsuspecting symptoms can start the clock ticking on a terrifying

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Since he's not a junior, we have to explain to you who he is. Who the fuck he is. Who finished second in last year's F3 championships and nine IS tackling the, oh, and nine IS, I don't know what that is, tackling the 1989 European F3000 series has been able to give vital feedback about the Mazda. So he's a good, they go to him to see. David Palmer, publicity director of Mazda cars

said since the heyday of the RX-7 in the early 80s yeah those are cool in the 80s though man those way look at that thing that's a pain in the ass to work on oh god yeah when Mazda held a dominant position in touring car racing I've been looking for a suitable method of returning to the circuits I am not expecting any resounding results as we take part in the final few events of the season, rather just some justification for our efforts." Yeah. So they're going to throw their Mazda hat in the ring here. There we go.

So Gary was, he ran one of those 24 hour races here and he was in fourth at the 21-hour mark when his gearbox had a problem and finishing 13th Shit, so that's an issue and that happens. So if you're driving a car at top speed for 24 hours, it's yeah shit breaks sometimes They are not you're not used for that. No So looking at this in 89 This is the F I guess formula 3000 so is that F3 I guess he finished first in 89 in points does it go all the way to 3000 I guess I'm in F 1312 and I tell you guys it's not what's cracked up to be it's just not F

3000 is just walking his formula one 1, is that actually Formula 1000? Is that what that is? They just shortened it? I don't fucking know, but he's first in the series. OK. He's with all the points. His races are third, first, second, sixth, first, fifth, fifth, first, second, first.

Not bad. Pretty good here. Then in the 24 hour of Le Mans, which we've covered guys that did that before, he was driving a Porsche and came in 13th. So 19th. He does great in a Mazda and can't figure it out in a fucking Porsche? Yeah, Porsche. Yeah, loves the Mazda though.

Here we go. 14, or I'm sorry, 1990, March 10th, 1990. Sydney Morning Herald. The headline does not have his father in it. How about that? Gary Brabham's attitude scores him a new life in the fast lane. And then it says Friday, this time last month, Gary Brabham was preparing for life as a has-been after winning the 1989 Formula 3 championship.

Yeah, that's what it is, Formula 3000. Sir Jack Brabham's middle son was coming to terms. See, they had to do it. Second paragraph. Damn it. Fucking A with the few options that were open to him. Right in the chin. Three weeks later, here he is in Phoenix, ready to have a crack at qualifying for his first Formula One race. Phoenix, Arizona? Yep. Absolutely. At 28, he has very nearly made it to the top of the chosen sport. I was within 24 hours of signing for Japan, Brabham said. It would have meant that I would never have had a chance at Formula One. But he does have a chance now, by all accounts not a very big one, at least not yet.

When the green light flashes for pre-qualifying laps at Phoenix, Bradman will be at the controls of a new car powered by a radical new W12 engine, prepared by the brand new Life Racing Engines team. That's a 12 cylinder babe. Wow, he said, there's a lot of work to do. If I can get this car into the points by the end of the season, it will make my reputation. Uh huh. Yeah, the team has been strung together with a budget of about 3.5 million Australian dollars.

Wow. Yeah, this is a much more expensive endeavor. Not 130 grand. This is three million plus. And they're running it on one of the fastest tracks at PIR. That's a fast fucking track. Yeah, this team is gonna, that's what they're laying out. They said some teams lay out as much as 50 million dollars

Wow, which is insanity He said back when my dad was racing. They didn't really have sponsorships didn't need it in 1966 me won the world championship They spent less on less than these big teams will spend on catering this year. They go back to that We've heard that Gary heard that fucking 86. Yeah Three years like I fucking 86. Yep. It's three years later. He's like, I'm using old material. I don't have anything. I didn't write anything new. Got old jokes here. It used to be the car was cheaper than food. In Russia, car pays for you.

Sorry, I watched Yakov Smirnov the other night. It is the 80s and, you know, didn't know what to do. Smirnoff the other night it is the 80s and you know didn't know what to do so they said as Gary Brabham climbed from Formula Ford 1600 over 18 years of racing money has been the biggest obstacle bar one he said it took me two years to convince dad that I should give it a go I was a bit of a rat bag back then a rat bag the fuck does that mean he shows no signs of it now small and slight dressed in a neon pink and green shirt this Brabham looks more like a kid from the suburbs with than a potential world-beater he admits that

the glamour side of racing is not his strong side instead he approaches his work with the steady eye of a craftsman he said said you have to be selfish. It's a selfish sport. But some of the drivers go over the top. I'd rather be part of the team I'm working with. The mechanics will put you in that little bit of extra effort if you don't behave like some of these hard-nosed snobby little types. If you're not a prick to the people who work for you, they try harder. That's a real fucking, real thing there. He said, like his father, they say, Brabham is more than just a hothead with a lead foot. But that doesn't stop him from being

excited at the opportunities opening up for him. So he's ready to go here. He works out to keep fit, spending a lot of time on neck exercises. And he's managed to cut his smoking down to about five cigarettes a day. Attaboy. Good for you. He said he hopes all this effort will pay off He said dad could have helped me all the way through but his philosophy and mine is that if you do it that way

You won't handle the hard times when they happen. I've been through so many lows. It's really made me hungry So he's ready to go here Here we go. It's an Italian life racing engines team is what he does and they signed him as a driver but it wasn't a big deal here. It didn't work out very well for him. His engine blew in the fourth lap and that was that. So he didn't get to really qualify very well in that. So there...

Fourth lap? He ran around the track four times and blew it up? Blew it up, yeah. So this engine wasn't exactly, it was an experimental engine, apparently it was not in the, we're not ready for the, it's prototype phase,

we're not producing this fucking thing. W12, it must be two V6s or something? I don't know how that would work. Yeah, they said basically the car was some 15 to 20 seconds off pre-qualifying pace at least, some 15 to 20 seconds off pre qualifying. Oh, no. At least translating to about 25 seconds of pole time. When it was clear, no improvement was forthcoming.

He did the smart thing and got out giving someone else a chance to waste their time. So there you go. That year, Formula One, he races, um, nothing. He didn't qualify twice. Yeah. Two did not qualify. So that's that Formula 3 though here. He finishes 8th or 11th in 1990 for middle bridge racing. So yeah, he's not tearing it up. But after Formula 1, he goes back to Formula 3 like I said and doesn't do that great Then he decides he's gonna join his brother Jeff on the IMSA circuit What is that one of Gary Brabham or one Brabham has been too much?

For most of the competitors in the IMSA camel camel GTP sports car series What the fuck it's probably is. Next year there will be a second member of the Australian racing clan in America. Jeff Brabham on the verge of winning his third straight GT prototype title this weekend in the camel Grand Prix of Southern California will welcome younger brother Gary to the series in 91. Gary Brabham the middle son of three among three time Formula One champion Jack Brabham. Yeah. Holy shit. There we go. Gary says off off the racetrack, Jeff will still be my big brother on the racetrack. He'll just be another driver. I'll have to beat.

But Jeff is in a class as the class of the field and I can learn from him. We can help each other. So he's like, if my brother's the the best I'll try it too. Fuck it. Why not? Nothing else is working for me. Yeah, the rest of it's a shit fucking pile and he can't he can't compete in anything except for f3 He's just not fast enough. I Guess isn't that's good cars either is the problem. Yeah, he's not getting good sponsorship. So he's gotta be a shit driver. What comes first, the chicken or the egg, the shit driver or the lack of sponsors? That's the thing.

You know what I mean? It's one of those, we don't know. Is he a shit driver or is he never getting the opportunity to be a good driver? Yeah, but you gotta have talent to get the fucking opportunities. I mean, the NBA, everybody's talking about not drafting LeBron's kid, because he's not that good. Yeah, that's true. Your dad can be great at something, and you're just not. Well, it happens all the fucking time.

Yeah. There's a Dale Berra out there, Yogi's kid, you know what I mean? There's so many. Richard Petty's son is terrible at racing. We can name a million athletes where the kid turned out to be a pile of shit.

The kid sucks. Michael Jordan Jr. didn't do shit. You know what I mean? That tells you a lot. The best guy. Kid couldn't hack it. Dropped out. Tough, man.

It's tough. And you're always going to have that so-and-so's son. That's brutal. It's tough, man. So they say that the younger Brabham won the British Formula 3000 championship in 89. This year had a brief trial with the life team in Formula 1, failing to make it through pre-qualifying

on the first two races of the season before engine problems. He went on to run the Formula 3000 championship with a pair of third place finishes as his best efforts of the season. The announcement was made Friday at a news conference at Del Mar fairgrounds, how many press were there for this announcement, where Sunday's race will be run on a temporary circuit. Also at the news conference, IMSA announced some expected changes for the next season. The series will initiate a bonus

point system with one point for winning the pole, one point for leading the most laps, and one point for driving the fastest lap in the race. Any driver who can sweep those three points and win the race will earn at least two more bonus points. What used to be known as an endurance series continues to move toward made-for-TV sprint events of two hours or less with only the traditional season opening Daytona 24 hours, the Sebring 12 hours and the 500 kilometer camel continental as events longer than 300 kilometers. So they're trying to make it so people can actually watch it and not just heard it.

Two hours of cars is a long fucking time, man. 24 is insane. Jeez. No one's watching that all the time. That's impossible to watch that. I gotta sleep, fuck you guys. Yeah, nevermind, you guys taking naps. I get a nap now too.

So in 1991, that's where he does, he does all of this. I guess his brother Jeff won the race, the 12 hour race that year. He's gonna race April 2nd here. He shared his Nissan's 12 hours of Sebring victory with his brother Jeff and Derek Daly. And so there we go. That's he, I guess, teamed up.

Gary, whose brother won three of the past four Miami events, will get his first laps over the 1.87 mile downtown street course Good lord. and practice Friday afternoon. Holy shit. I can't imagine That's fun. Well, here's a well, this is a blast from the crime and sports past. The car is the same one Jean Paul, Jr and Kevin Kevin Kogan drove to a second, and fucking missing, looking for,

fucking killed women, remember that? There's women missing, there's one that was found dead, and he disappeared and last was seen like surfing in Thailand or some shit. Jean Paul is still out there, the authorities are still looking for him, he is an absolute fugitive for years. And a bad man, a bad bad man, evidently. is still out there. The authorities are still looking for him. He is an absolute fugitive for years.

And a bad man. Bad, bad man. A bad man. Yeah. Evidently. Yeah. Well, yeah. Allegedly. We got a lot of people contacted us when we first did that story. It's like episode 30 or something. Yeah. Was saying how, yeah, there's a whole search for her and this is a big deal, man, that no one has forgotten that. So here's also-

Well, I did for a second. Yeah, we didn't remember. So the Miami Herald, that's where this article is from. And right under this, also occurring in Florida, Gainesville's nude relays halted. What? 45 male and female runners from 10 college track teams competed Sunday in Gainesville in what was dubbed the second annual nude relays. The runners-

Gainesville, Florida people. Gainesville. Yikes. The runners stripped down for an unlit sprint around the University of Florida track stadium at 2.30 in the morning. So it's pitch black out there. What I mean, you see after a minute. The runners competed for one hour or until the police turned on the stadium lights and

the athletes left. No arrests were made. This is not a sanctioned event. This is just some shit that happened here. It had been planned since the first secret nude relays in 1990 attracted a handful of runners. The legend of that first race gained momentum at NCAA meets around the country. So it became like a viral thing before the internet.

And it started to overshadow the Florida relays. And so there you go. Oh my god. So I guess he drove in a Nissan in a 28, two hour, sorry, a two hour race at Miami and got turned, came in eighth. And so that's good, I suppose. I don't fucking and so that's good I suppose I don't fucking know if that's good or not. He also I think he had pants on so I take I give him less credit if I'm being honest

with you. He also races some in Australia in 1991 and then in 1992 he rejoined Nissan Performance Technology and he drove the 24-hour Daytona race and had to retire while he was in third place Skyline or some shit. That's a good car. That's a fucking dope ass. They had one of the Japanese ones. That's badass So 12 hours of Sebring him and his brother came in second that time and his brother and some other guy Yeah, driving in some Nissan NPT-918. Okay. I don't know what the fuck that is at all.

It's probably some fucking, it's a race car. Little Euro racer, yeah. You can't buy that, yeah. You know, in England a lot of those little tiny cars are like, oh, they love those, because those are like the little racers, because they don't have like, the roads are small. They can't give you like a Dodge Challenger over there.

I mean, you could, but it's gonna be a pain in the ass to park at places and shit. They don't have lifted trucks there. There's no way they can drive those on those roads. There's gotta be a couple of hillbillies over there, right? You think so? I'm positive there's English rednecks who have seen what's going on over here

and been like, oh, right, yeah. Jack it up. Oh, look at that, hey. Oh, look at that, oh, Oh, look at that, oh yeah. And fucking put it all up. I'll pull a fucking castle, hey. Yeah, old British people just stare at them and shake their heads.

What are you doing with that? What are you doing? I'm gonna go steal Buckingham Palace. Oh, take the whole thing, hey, huh? Drag it off the foundation. The Queen's carriage, I'm gonna fucking pull it with this fucking thing. See how the Queen likes a little speed, eh? Oh, right.

Hang on. A little bit of exhaust on her, yeah. Fill in the castle with black smoke. Black smoke around. Rolling coal down Buckingham Palace. That's right. Oh, you like that, you wriggly bitch? All right. That's right. Oh, you like that, you wrinkly bitch? All right.

That's right. Running it past those guards that don't move. You better chase, innit? In it. Chase, innit? In it. Yeah, that's right. Faster than you thought, eh?

Oh, my god. So the Kansas City Star talks about him in 1993, January 16th. Australian racer Gary Brabham has signed a contract with Dick Simon Racing, first time they haven't mentioned his father. Hold on though. For the 1993 IndyCar season, Brabham, son of three time world Formula One champion Sir Jack Brabham, will make his IndyCar debut in his homeland March 21st in the Australian IndyCar Grand Prix. That's the whole article. Two sentences and they had to mention his father. Unbelievable.

That is fucking hilarious by the way. By the way, right under this is thoughts from Coach Ditka here from Ditka's point of view. What's Coach got to say? Mike Ditka, the ex Chicago Bears coach on a variety of things. On William the refrigerator Perry, quote, we called him the other day. Supposedly he weighs 325. Hey, who knows? He's running twice a day from the refrigerator to the bathroom.

He's saying he's a fat fuck. They said, what's wrong with Donnell Wolford, who is the Bears cornerback? And he said, what's wrong with him? He can't cover anybody. That's what's wrong with him They said well Well, yeah, I remember that guy What do you think about the Metrodome in Minneapolis? And he said they could convert it into a national armory and it would be more useful than what it's used for now

I know they could grow grass on it and use it for livestock. He said it's a piece of shit. He hates Why are they asking coach these wild ass questions? Why are they just like three random questions with Coach is a weird fucking thing to do. I don't get it. 93 and 94, he made appearances at the Australian Gold Coast IndyCar race. And until 2000, he was the only Australian to do so.

Which is funny, because it's the Australian race yeah I think they want a local he qualified a at 20th that year in 93 Brabham did here not too shabby and so this year he only he was just on and off doing this American open wheel racing results I see he's 40th he came in 14th in the first race I don't know if I don't know what he's good 14th in the first race. He's not good anymore, what happened? I don't know what he's good at, that's the thing. I don't know if he was ever great or if he's just mediocre and his dad has a good name or, I don't know what the fuck it is here.

He probably had a good team at first and then, cause I mean, your quality of your finish is gonna depend on the car. I would think so, yeah. Rule one, you gotta have a great car. If you don't have a great car, you're not gonna win. You're not gonna win, no, you have to have a great car and be really good at racing, actually, and driving. Yeah, you have to be so, yeah. Rule one, you gotta have a great car. If you don't have a great car, you're not gonna win. You're not gonna win. No, you have to have a great car

and be really good at racing, actually, and driving. Yeah, you gotta be talented, yeah. You gotta have it all. It's one of those sports. So, 1995, he retires from international motor racing and begins to offer advanced driver training courses. Here you go, yeah. He's gonna go back to racing, but this is for a second.

He's like, hold on, I can't do this. He has an operation on the Gold Coast, but he's also tutored overseas. And 93, by the way, was when he was on the Australian Today Show and they were like, what a nice guy. He trained Rowan Atkinson. What? Mr. Bean. Mr. Bean and Captain Mark Phillips for the British GP celebrity race and he also taught celebrities competing in the Australian GP

Celebrity races Gary has also been hired by the likes of Porsche Rover Ford Volkswagen GM and Mercedes to drive at press launches Cool, just like do here's a showcase little example. Yeah, he's going to drive it and then skid out to the side there. Look at that. They said he couldn't help himself when he was given a chance to drive a Brabham Repco BT23 in the Race of Legends support race in the Adelaide 500 V8 supercar event in 2000. And he came in third. Really? So I'm going to say Grace here. In 2000?

He's had a career. He's retired. He still has a good name He's like, you know, he's racing. He's hanging out with mr. Bean, you know, I mean asking him questions He won't fucking answer him. He's getting frustrated with mr. Bean Stealing Whistler's mother and putting it in the trunk. You know how it goes so we'll say grace with that and the problem here is once retires, he's up to no good from the start. And this is a guy, this is one of these where some of them are, you know, a lot of crime is sprinkled in throughout the course of the thing. And some of them it's, you know, this is one where it's kind of all from now, it's just

downhill and it's over with for him. And he's a fucking disaster. and what he's doing is horrible from 2003 to 2007 he's just up to no good. We'll talk about what happens what he does Well, it doesn't get found out until 2009 when he was up to during this years go by in 2009 he is going to and this is the fucked up thing No one will find out about this is the fucked up thing. No one will find out about this, by the way, in 2009. This did not come out in 2009.

This was somehow completely suppressed from the news, sealed up, nobody knows about it. I don't know if it's because his father is Sir is what it is, but in 2009- He knelt in front of the fucking Queen, James. Well, his son knelt in front of the fucking Queen James well his son knelt in front of something much more disturbing oh what he do he pleads guilty in 2009 like I said this won't come out for years of charges of quote indecent dealing of a child under twelve years oh yeah he's molesting a child for years. He does it for years too. And it's completely, completely,

they think to protect his father who was still alive at the time and whatever. So it's completely suppressed. He's found guilty of this and served time in a high security section of the Wacol jail. And I guess it was completely like no one knew about it at all. It wasn't a big thing. Cause you'd think it's a son of three time F1 champion.

That's all they kept saying. Yeah. Hey, keep my name out of this one. The one time they decide not to talk about him. So that happens in 2009. He was molesting this girl in 2003 and on. By the way, one, we'll talk about it, never mind. So that's horrible, but in 2009 nobody finds out about this.

So he's still angel guy. What a nice guy. He's still that guy. May 19th, 2014, his dad dies. Sir Jack. And the reason why I kept reading you all of these racing articles was to show how famous his father was too.

Because to show, not just go, he's really famous. Every article is son of three times blah, blah, blah, blah, and then him. But this is how it's so big that it gets, this is the silverest of silver here. They could suppress molesting kids. This is fucking crazy. So May 19th, 2014, Sir Jack Brabham dies at age 88.

So yes, he dies at his home in the Gold Coast, Queensland here. Died after, died of, no, he died after a long battle with a terrible kidney condition for which he underwent dialysis three times a week in recent years. Oh Jesus that's so awful. Holy shit the iconic sportsman born in Hurtsville New South Wales that's how they love how they describe him that's fucking wild according to the statement the brit media the brit gave to the media today Dennis said the world led the word legend is often used to describe

successful sportsmen, but often it exaggerates their status. In the case of Sir Jack Brabham, however, it's entirely justified. Yeah, that's what they said. After retiring from the sport to be a full-time family man, Sir Jack didn't abandon the world of motorsport for good. He's fucking his secretary. Yeah. Yeah. So he's going to do fine. At this point, the family name is still gold.

No one knows what his son has done. Then March 14th or March 24, 2016, guess what? He gets fucking busted again. Oh, no. And now 2009 comes out too. 2016 guess what he gets fucking busted again. Oh No, and now 2009 comes out too that he's this is the second fucking time It's almost like if you made it public and people knew to keep their fucking kids away from him this might not happen weird, right? Hmm, so he was convicted Here, which is I guess the trial had been delayed since

2013 for three years. So his dad was still alive when he got arrested the first time. Yes, well this thing is she was molested between the years of 2003 and 2007. Didn't tell her mother until 2013. Oh my. Okay and she, by the way, is the sister of the other girl. He went to jail for molesting. Oh no. So I think this girl saw how that whole thing

affected the family and said, I'll keep my mouth shut. I'm not saying anything. I'm not saying shit. He molested, I believe, there were six and eight were the girls when he was molesting them. Who were they? Family, friends? They won't say, it's a privacy matter.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess that's a good point. They don't want to say how it is, but they say it happened in a car he did it. Ew, a lot. He was molesting these girls. It's fucking... He feels safe in a car. Yeah, abused her in a four-year period. Oh, Jesus. But that's when he started six and eight with these two girls, from what I've heard here, allegedly.

So, not allegedly, he's in jail. He went to jail. So they said a lot of, it's pretty fucking disgusting, basically. He's initially charged with one count of rape and six counts of indecent treatment, but was found not guilty of five counts, somehow. He was convicted of one count of rape and one count of indecent treatment of a girl under the age of 12 So yeah, he pleaded not guilty since the beginning of the trial and After the verdicts were handed down. That's when the court was told that he had a criminal history of this before So they describe all this then they say Gary who's also the brother of

LeMans winners David and Jeff Brad leave us out of this. Not us, say dad he's dead. No they fucking sandwich it between them talking about how he doesn't say he's guilty of fucking kids and he's got a criminal history what are we doing here? Oh my god so they say that uh Jesus Christ, somewhat successful in junior formula and winning the British Formula 3000 championship in 89, he tried his luck in F1 but with disastrous results. Gary was part of arguably the worst F1 team in history during the 1990 season. Life F1, for which he failed to pre-qualify for two races. Pre-qualify, fuck qualifying.

Oh my God, that's fucking funny. A few more attempts with sports car racing didn't end much better either, concluding his racing career with not a single high level win. Wow, that's not good. His father Jack passed away in 2014, and they said it was liver disease here,

so I think it was kidneys though, I think they just fucked up. Sounds like dad may have been a drinker. The jury in this case, by the way, here's a headline, quote, no evidence, no proof, no chance of justice for Gary Brabham. Jury retires in Brabham rape trial by Melanie Petranik, the Courier mail, March 24th 2016. Say that again, no evidence, no proof, no chance of justice for Gary Brabham. That's what old Melanie's saying here.

I don't like the way Melanie worded that. Let's read this and see if Melanie, she means something different. Let's give her the benefit of the doubt, Melanie. A jury has retired to decide the fate of motor racing champion Sir Jack Brabham's son, who is allegedly on trial for allegedly raping a young girl as she sat on his lap in a car. Oh, you disgusting motherfucker. They don't even say his name in the first... He fucked it. It's just all about dad.

Wow! Don't say my name during that sentence unless I did that please. Don't do that. Gary Thomas Brabham 45 pleaded not guilty to seven charges in the Brisbane District Court on Monday. It's been alleged the girl was aged between six and ten at the time he touched her in a sexual way between 2003 and 2007. The jury was shown a 2012 video of the girl, now 19, telling a police officer

that Brabham touched her when she was six years old as she sat on his lap wearing shorts when he drove a car while he drove he's doing this. The girl said on another occasion, yeah the balls, the fucking balls. She'd been sick at her home in Brisbane's West. Brabham came into her room, sat beside her and quote rubbed his hand on her vagina. Yeah. Yeah. Um, quote, I was crying. The girl said he was sort of like comforting me as he was touching me He made it seem to me. I was crying because I was sick, but I was crying because he was touching me

Like oh my god Better you yeah a bitch bring your fever right down here. Oh my god the girl said afterwards She tried to get away from him as quickly as possible The girl said afterwards she tried to get away from him as quickly as possible After that so the jury began to deliberate its verdict about 3 30 p.m.. Yesterday Holy shit now. They are The thing is is there he he's saying it's just it's my word against theirs And it's all made up in these they've conspired against me years apart from each other Because they really got it in for me.

Tell you what, these guys, they are not fans of F1 racing or anything like that. They hate Volkswagens. They fucking hate F3000 racing. And they hate anyone who's been knighted, I think, also. And I think F1 to 3000, they are despisers of it. So he's sitting here waiting for the jury to come back on this one.

He's already gone to jail for this. So it seems like this would be a pretty major offense and also an offense that would probably get the shit kicked from you in most jails. Oh my. I would hope in Australia even also. Maybe they're more lenient but I doubt it. Maybe it's worse. I was going to say they will hit you with a kangaroo.

Pick it right up by the ankles and that's I think that's what you have to do is that you have to fight kangaroos if you're. They beat you with a kangaroo. Pick it right up by the ankles. I think that's what you have to do is that you have to fight kangaroos if you're... They beat you with a foster scan. Give you a koala herpes or whatever it is. Gonorrhea? I think it's syphilis. I think it's syphilis, yeah. Koalas of syphilis. So imagine him, he's got to be sitting in that fucking courtroom waiting to hear... Oh boy. His fate? His fate, like in the lawyers, with the lawyers and all that, after, well, the jury's retired, or sitting in his little holding cell,

as if it's, that's another thing there. But yeah, he's sitting there, he's very confused, and then out of nowhere, though, there's a knock on the door. He's like, I hope this is someone telling me that everything's gonna be okay. It's not, though. He's looking down the barrel of two guns baby. It's the Mexican pimp of course. Guns blazin'. And he says... How is it you've come to arrive here? Why are you here? You my friend are

Disgusting and I will say that with full knowledge that I let's be honest here. I sell women You know I mean I sell them right I'd sell them highest bidder I don't care and give a fuck but here's the thing Even I'm ashamed to be in the room with you. That's you I sell women. I sell adult women though at least That's you. I sell women. I sell adult women, though, at least. Women. I get women as different. You sell, I have a staunch policy of background investigation with cross-check with local

and federal governmental agencies. I don't fuck around with the kids. You sir are scum. Truly. And then poof, in a cloud of bullets and tequila, he's gone. And Gary was very afraid because he's never met a Mexican before and he's like, what happened?

Who is that? What was that language? What is going on here? We don't have Mexican people in Australia, I'm not sure. So there he is, March 26th, 2016 here. Wow, he is, the headline's great. Gold Coast Base Driver, Son of Sir Jack Brabham, a serial child molester. Oh, god damn it.

So the fucked up part is, if you take the other part out, you can take an out of context where it says, Sir Jack Brabham, a serial child molester. Don't put my name in these sentences. What if someone is blind in one eye and they only see half the sentence? I'm fucked. And the only thing worse than a child molester is a serial child molester. It said Gary Brabham, son of motor racing legend Sir Jack Brabham,

even they have to say it in the body of the article too, is a serial child molester The man met Liz for Christ's sake. Oh my god. Who for years hid his crimes behind a wall of lies. Only his ashamed family knew the truth. Yeah, because they, I'm sure that's where his first marriage went, or a second marriage. Oh, maybe so. Brabham managed to have his name suppressed as he served out his time in high security at Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-Wal-W He holy like what mob guys used to tell their kids. Yeah, I was out west being a cowboy. That's what happened

Yeah, I had to go off to college. I had to go to college for a few. It's fucking ridiculous. That's what he said he was doing He wow in an interview. He said I enjoyed sports cars I think the one thing I enjoyed most of all was testing and I had a good reputation for it Well, that's your only good reputation. I got to test different cars. Even Nissan used to fly me to America just to test. He said he talked up running a few high performance days with dad and vowed to develop a workplace health and safety initiatives to reduce company car accidents. But this week the sham ended when the 54-year-old was again convicted of one count of rape

and six of indecent treatment of a child under the age of 12. He was found not guilty of five other counts of indecent treatment. His victims are sisters. Oh my. And the devastation caused by Brabham was described by family friends as, quote, extensive.

Yeah. Yeah. I would say. Yeah, that will fuck a child up man. The mother said it's been nearly a nine-year ordeal for us. This has been a really difficult time for our family. It's nearly now over and the truth has come out. We've got sentencing in three weeks. It's probably a relief the truth has come out but I just don't know how to feel. It hasn't really sunk in. The thing is he was saying he didn't do it. He had no remorse because he didn't do it. And the mother outside

talked to the press. I saw the video and she was like, this is fucking crazy. They're like, it makes me even angrier that he won't even admit to it and say sorry. Like this is fucking ridiculous. And he's up there preaching about driver safety and the safety of a vehicle when he's got a kid on his lap and he's touching her while he's driving. That's gotta be much more distracting than drinking, right? I would say, and dangerous too. Never mind a car seat.

Right. You can hurt that child horribly. So he said, they go on to say, friends and family were stunned by the lack of remorse from the gray haired balding former sports star, he left the Brisbane District Court for a smoke between breaks in his trial during the week. One of Gary's relatives said there is no remorse. He looks and smiles and shakes his head." Meaning Gary, when they're telling the details he's like, yeah right, like, what the fuck man? They said, but they also watched as his brother Jeff bowed

his head as the prosecution summed up the shocking details of the case. They saw Jeff's wife Rosina in tears. Outside the court, Jeff, his brother, on approaching the victim's family was apologetic, telling them, quote, I'm only here because he's my brother. Before leaving, he placed his hand on the shoulder of a woman and told her, good luck. He's like, I know my brother's a piece of shit. I get it. I believe you. I'm just here to show him that I know that he is still alive. Jesus Christ. She says they described after one of the five separate incidents of molestation between

2003 and 2007 with the one girl, the girl was aged between six and ten. She recalled sobbing after Brabham rubbed his hand on her as she sat on a toy chest. A friend of the family told Gold Coast Bulletin he was what psychologists would call a groomer. He would set the scene up. He would groom the target into a false sense of safety. A fucking monster is what he is. I'd rather somebody jumped out of an alley and went, at least you know to be fucking scared. This guy.

This is a real life monster. To lure somebody in with trust of especially a child's trust and like years fucking disturbing and disgusting and a really dangerously bad person. So they said Brabham did not give any evidence of his trial relatives and friends see him facing his biggest challenge to acknowledge the pain of his victims. So he is going to get some jail time here. He is sentenced to Here we go. You sir may fuck off two years and three months in prison With the suspended after six months

He does gonna do six months boy. You guys are lenient, Australia This is a second time fucking a kid or touching kids molesting kids I don't care what he's doing with them get touching them in any way and a relative of his other victim that's the sisters sisters and the grooming and all of it this is just six months what the fuck are we doing Australia hey holy shit is there a vicious there. Is there a wallaby in charge? What's happening down there? Did wildlife make this decision?

Yeah, they must have. Another article from the next day says, the racing car driver who posed as a happily married family man while molesting young girls. That's the headline. Gary Brabham, the son of motor racing legend Sir Jack Brabham. Poor bastard is dead. If you missed that Gary Brabham part, Jesus Christ, this could be so bad for his legend. How many people scanned it and was like, did you know Jack Brabham was fucking kids? Jesus Christ. He's a bad guy. And then moved on to another story. I

had no idea. Oh wow. Led a double life where he appeared as a happily married man while secretly destroying the childhood of two young sisters. After he began a six month jail term last night, the mother of the children he abused spoke for the first time about the emotional and financial pain in almost a decade long fight by her family to gain justice. In 2009, Brabham pleaded guilty to charges of indecent dealing of a child under 12. His name was suppressed on being released from jail, but he always feared his crimes would be revealed and destroy his reputation in the motor racing royal family.

After a second court case, the 54-year-old last month was convicted of one count of rape and one count of indecent dealing of a child under 12, and yesterday was sentenced to two years and three months in prison to be suspended after six months. The girl's mother told the bulletin, quote, the offenses against the children were hidden and secretive. He was living his double life, playing the happily married man and then grooming my children. God, Jesus. Because it was suppressed then, he could get away with it. He was always concerned about the family, the family name. It was always

think of the family. And who knows how many other kids he fucking diddled. Yeah he came to America for Christ's sake. You telling me those are the only two children he was attracted to? That ain't the way it works man. That's he likes kids. This is fucking gross. Wow because it was suppressed then he could get away with it he was oh my god. In sentencing the judge said he had shown no remorse and he said quote you have brought great shame upon yourself and your family. Shame. Your family name is very well known given your father's position in life you know you might as well say three time racing champion Jack Brabham.

Sir Jack Brabham. Yeah, you were in a position of trust and you breached that trust in a most offensive way. In a most foul way. You sir may fuck off, barely go to jail. He says all that and then says six months. Are you fucking kidding me? The mother said also, this is

the girls who were abused, that mother said by failing to show remorse he put her daughter through hell during that trial. Asked about the length of the sentence she said, it's not sufficient. I think it should have been more for the offense. There was no remorse whatsoever. She said her family has suffered, he's caused her family to suffer a large financial and emotional loss. Quote, it's a nine year ordeal. My daughters have had their innocence taken away from them. They can never get that back. I feel nothing toward him. I'm very glad that he's going to spend the first night of the next six months in jail where he belongs. September of 2016, he his appeal for... He appeals it? Oh he appealed

it he's got some balls dude this guy does not give a fuck. Yeah that's that's crazy he appealed it and they told him to get fucked. You got six months you asshole go serve it. Yeah you're to be lucky you know what here's another ten years now fuck you we're tired of your bullshit. So I feel terrible for those fucking girls, man. Honest to Christ. Those poor kids and the whole family too, especially if you're the parents and you feel like you can't protect these girls. Because obviously...

You go through all of that and the man gets almost no time. That's so brutal. Well, and obviously the parents, if he was around them for four years and was in their rooms And he's driving them places. They were obviously Trusting of him and put the kids in his in his possession so as a parent you'd feel awful Because if like if you send your kid to school and the kid the teacher diddles your kid That's awful and everything, but you're like well. I sent him to school What was I supposed to do not send him to school? Just keep him in a fucking cave in the basement

So nobody touches him like that would be one thing But when it's somebody that you could have kept them away from even though there was no reason to as a parent I would assume you'd feel guilty even though you have no reason to unless it was somebody that you know Obviously you shouldn't had him around but this isn't that person. This is a his father is a fucking lord for whatever the fuck So sir, I mean, yeah, you gotta feel bad for the brothers here because they're disgraced Poor Jack's name's been dragged all through the mud on this. It's terrible. I feel bad for all these people Jimmy Yeah, but not nearly as bad as I feel God is there a lot Gary Brabham? Laborer at Ross and Associates in Utica, New York. He's like, luckily no one here's ever heard

of this fucking guy. He went to LaGuardia Community College, which is, is that on the runway C? Where the fuck is that? Terminal B? Outside the Delta Sky Club in Terminal B? Where the fuck are we talking about here? LaGuardia Community.

But the best part, oh my God, he went to Boces, holy shit. What is that? BoCiS is the school that they send you to when you get kicked out of school. It's also like if it's an industrial thing, so if you're like really going to be a car mechanic or whatever, a trade, but it's also that's whether you're forced to go and you're kicked out of school before you're 16. I know a million kids who went to BoCiS.

And LaGuardia Community, James. Yeah, and LaGuardia Community College, you know. Gotta have... Poor bastard, got his bag handler certificate there. I got a degree from LaGuardia Community College. What? My fucking degree's no good here, like... It's a frontier terminal.

Oh, it's a good terminal. That's not his fucking spirit bullshit, it's a United terminal, you fucking assholes. Get out of here, it's all right, it's not good it's a good terminal. That's not his fucking spirit bullshit. It's in the United terminal you fucking assholes get out of here It's all right. It's not bad It's a regular airline. I know what I'm doing this is ridiculous. And shares a name with a terrible human being And he is he says a heavy equipment operator CDL driving school So he has the word driving in there too So if you look up Gary Brabham driving it will come up with this guy because it's in his LinkedIn profile.

He's driven a seven and a half ton truck. Probably. He definitely has. He absolutely has. And also Gary Brabham, consulting geologist in the greater Perth area. Oh, this poor bastard. He's probably named after him. That is horrible. Oh no, that's so bad. He went to Edith Cowan University, this guy. And his profile picture is him at the big giant wheel of a big boat. Like a big sailboat. He's got the wheel, he's Captain Ron in it over here. And this poor bastard, everyone's just like, you scumbag.

Well, you got a boat to lure kids, Gar? You're a disgrace to your father's good name, Gar. He's like, that's not my father. Stop. Trying to drive this boat and tell you about rocks, you fucking assholes. And finally, Gary Brabham Jr. Oh, what? Who is also from Utica, so I'm assuming that is Gary Brabham's son.

This poor bastard. He's like, fuck fuck both of us my dad went to fucking LaGuardia for Christ's sake my dad went to LaGuardia over here. This is ridiculous So it says Gary Brabham's network very Brabham's net worth and this obviously there's no way He has 20 bucks just to show you how off these things are says he has one to five million dollars Yeah, what's the five no no no one to five no he's not doing one to five million There's no fucking way in the world here, so there you go Have fun can't get enough of this scumbag piece of shit kid fucking loser

Well, you can get a Gary Brabham IMS a Nissan auto race black and white publicity photo five by seven not signed Unsigned just a picture of him. Look at this fucking goofball, too. Look at him He looks like a molesting art teachers or something like a molesting science teacher he this is $28 the balls plus nine seventy in, so you're going to spend almost $40. It's not even his dad. On just a picture of a- Of a child molester.

Some guy's molesting offspring. Of a good guy's molesting offspring. And then a Gary Brabham Australia Leighton House Racing March 89, whatever the fuck. It's a picture of him in a fucking single seat car. It's $5.65 Australian dollars Australian dollars plus 332 shipping from Australia. So we can get that. A picture of a child molester, should we get one? It's not even the him, which is great.

Look at the picture. It's just the car? It's just the back of the car with him driving in it. He might be in it, we don't know. Very tip top of his helmet, could be you, could be me, could be anybody. It's a car that a child molester sat in. There's a car, there's a child molester driving away.

So that's Gary Brabham Jr. now. Good God. Hold on one second, because we're not done yet. What do you got? We have to do an update on somebody. Off of Gary Brabham. We have to do an update on one of just the more tragic figures that we've ever had in crime and sports history.

It's a guy that we feel terrible for because he's not, he's always the victim of things. Delante West. Oh my God, it's so sad. It's so sad. If you see, for a minute there, he was like, It looked like it was gonna be okay. He was going, yeah, I remember he was showing up

at people's stuff and people were like, oh no, I think Delante West is okay, and I remember going, I don't think so. Not so fast, he's very mentally ill, and unless he's got a- Very drug addicted. And very drug addicted, and those two things together are terrifying, and unless you're balancing those out

somehow and doing all that, I don't know how it's gonna be the end of bad times for him, and sadly enough, and honestly, this is just sad, this last week actually. Just arrested again. He's arrested again and look at it, do you see his picture? I don't wanna look at it again, god damn it. Poor bastard, he looks terrible.

Why does he always have that sore right there? Is that a sore, is it a birthmark? I think it's a birthmark that he picks at and it gets red. It's gotta be, right? Cause it's always there. He was arrested in Virginia on misdemeanor charges of violating the conditions of his release

and resisting arrest. Yeah, and he ran because he was on drugs again. Yep, he's on drugs again. He's always getting the shit beaten out of him. It's just sad stuff. They say they spotted him about 1 a.m. in Grovedon, Virginia. James, he's Bubbles. He's Bubbles. He looks like Bubbles Grovedon, Virginia. James, he's Bubbles. He's Bubbles.

He looks like Bubbles now, too. He does. And he is Bubbles. He's enormous Bubbles. He gets just beat up all the time. Well, that would be like Bubbles' friend would be the white guy there as a Johnny boy. No, his Bubbles started getting beaten up by that same guy over and over and over. That's true.

Over and over and they were robbing him. That's who he is now, yeah. But he's just this giant guy and it's terrible. It's really sad. So 1 a.m. in Grovedon, Virginia, the police saw him and sought to serve a warrant on him because they had a warrant for his arrest. He took off and the officers found him unresponsive after losing sight of him during the chase. When they found him, he was out cold.

He took a bunch of drugs. They had the Narcan. And then ran. Yeah. They said Narcan was used here, initially administered, to West and didn't have the desired effect, according to the statement. Then he was transported to a hospital,

and the Narcan worked after being administered a second time. Just someone didn't do it right. Or how much was he under? You know what I mean? Wow. He was released from the hospital and transported to the detention center.

And yeah, I mean, he's bipolar, he's got a hardcore substance abuse problem. He was treated at a Florida rehab in 2021 and ended up working at the facility after Mark Cuban helped him get his life. Remember Mark Cuban said, it's gonna make it my thing to get to Lonte West. I don't know what happened,

but he ran away from the nest apparently because he quit helping or he took off. Cuban picked the Lante West up at a gas station in September 2020 after pictures circulated of him panhandling. So yeah, and it turns out so the Lante is not over there. I mean, that poor guy, for Christ's sake, I want him to get help because he's not hurting people. He's not a bad person. He's just killing himself. He went from fucking LeBron's mother to this. It's just a tragic thing.

What's going on, man? Who hurt you? Show us on the doll. Like, where did it happen? Because this is fucking horrible. I feel so bad for this guy. So sad. So sad.

So anyway, there you go. There is Gary Brabham and son of three time Formula One champion Jack Brab, Sir Jack Brabham, obviously. You can't say his name and not say that. It just comes right after. Or say the Jack thing first and then say son. Yeah, and then say his name. Serial child molester.

Serial child molester. That's a label you wanna headline on you. Serial child molester, Jimmy W a label you want to headline on you. Serial child molester Jimmy Wisman. How'd you like to have that on you? No. Terrible. I don't want that. Dad's a serial race winner. Yeah. Serial child molester. Not the same. Not quite the same. I mean he fucked the secretary of the dad, but that's fine. At least she was like of working age. Right. At least like, you At least out in the world and an adult. So anyway, there you go. There's that crazy story.

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the right now holy shit Jimmy hit me with the names of the people who would never ever ever put the word serial child molester after our names. Hit me with them right now. This week's interviewer is Cameron Kuschwara. Cameron, thank you so much. Wow, nice pronunciation. Thank you. Amber Lowndes, Jordan Bennett of course, Neelu Robson, Johnny Neelu.

It's terrific to see you again. Awesome to see you again. She was at the San Francisco show, yeah. Diana Michalski, Raymond Rust, yeah that's right, they were, weren't they? Yeah, they were both, I was talking to them both at the same time at one point. I was like, look at this shit.

And also Tyler Ringer, thank you so much. And Dawn Sherman, she says, cheers to the only two men who gave me 500 moments of pure bliss. I don't know what that means. Salute Shantani 500 more. Let's do it. She's a mother. She should have gotten way more than that. Way more, I would hope.

Shit. We'll be back to Philly soon. Oh, fuck yeah. Next year. Next year we'll be back. Other producers this week, Peyton Meadows, Abigail Gafford, Janice Hill, Whitney Green. Happy birthday, Whitney. Happy birthday, Whitney.

And Tenniel Headley Blake. I think happy birthday Whitney. Happy birthday Whitney. Tenniel Headley Blake, I think that's it, Tenniel? I don't know. Colleen Frank, I can't pronounce shit. Tyler DiMarco, Starkweather Christina, I think it might be Christina Starkweather. Charles Starkweather's daughter? Ew.

No? Joel with no last name. Broomstick, I think? Melon, it's B-R-M-S-T-I-K, that. Broomstick, I think? Melon, it's B-R-M-S-T-I-K, that's broomstick, right? That sounds like a license plate broomstick, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Melin, Melin Wagner? Melin, Melin.

Melin. Me, Lin. I don't know, maybe it's Melin. James, nice to meet you. Also, someone named Lin. Joy DiVincenzo. Kristen Chartier. Laura, Laura Buckle.

Hayley French. Margaret Nash. Samantha Van de Kratz. Van de Kratz. Kayla B. John Boehner. That's probably not that one. Yeah, I'm sure it is.

Former Speaker of the House, I'm sure. Yeah, hey, listen. Tammy Garrison. Sarah Lupson. Lupson Canova. Lupson N'Kova. All right, Lupus Nenkova. Lupus, don't put Lupus in the port person. That's her name.

Oh, it's Lopus. Yeah, there you go. Lopus Nenkova. She's like, now I'm Lupus, thanks a lot. God damn it. Daniel Duffy, Jennifer Ross, Craig Holden, Jack Lay, oh boy, Larchevac, Larchevac, Jennifer, nope, that's Jessica, Alberti,

Emanuel, Emanuel, that's a, isn't that a poem? I don't know. I don't know. It may be a song too, who knows? Bill Redon. Sounds like an eagle song. Yeah. Emanuel.

It's probably a Christmas song. It's a Don Henley for sure. Stephanie Hankins, Andrea Krishka, Crystal Fart. Oh boy. Oh good. Crystal fart, I like that. Crystal fart, Cristal fart. Cristal fart, there we go.

That's an expensive fart. It's a fart from a nice bottle of champagne. Merritt with no last name, Jessica Rich, Randy Sherman, Carla Mass, Carla Mass, Laurie with no last name, Erica Hawley, Stephanie Schillinger, Tatum, Tatum and Plant has two patrons, thank you so much. Thank you. Aidan McGrath, Cindy Finney, Carlos Romero, Pamela Cutter, Ida Fitch, Albert James Horn, Kristen Bray, Angel-Faced Killer, oh boy. Hillary with no last name, Rhonda Haskell, Scott Geisler, Patrick Spencer, Rebecca McIntosh,

16, because there was 15 others. River Tuggin' Phil, James, he's tuggin' on the river. Oh, he's fillin' it up, that takes a lot to fill a river from tuggin'. Let me tell you somethin'. He sings that old song. Whoa. Jeff Davis, Just Christy, Olivia De Palma,

Mark would know last name, Katie would know last name, Cappy Arnold, Ronan Lane, Hannah Brooke, Justine Charters, Paige Bassey, Kate Maloney, Mikel Page, maybe it's Mikel, oh yeah it's Mikel, Trina Miller, Danielle Gibson, Polly would know last name, Tina Mulcahy, Kelly Reeves, Jenny Hinajosa, Casey Breeze would know, oh that's her last name, Jonathan Darnell, Kim Bernard, Brandon Bruce, Annika Johnson, Renee Jamerson, Jane Pinkerton, David Gundino, Jordan with no last name, Sarah Hallberg, oh, Grakenverb, I think that's what that says.

Alex, Alex Powell, Isaac Larson, Lynn Oliver, Rachel Tautow maybe, Michaela Zivic, Stetson with no last name, Nicholas Willman, Tracy with no last name, C and the letter G, CG, Jennifer Lawson, Heather Martin, Quinn Dawson, Carlton Powell, Heather C, Jeff Willis, Kaylee Pinoce, Pinoce, Mateen Stewart, Tabitha Colvin, Michelle Rolison, Daniel with no last name, DMIJ79, Terry Kennedy, Sarah Zinger, Courtney- Someone forgot to put their name. It's just a- they mashed the keyboard and pressed enter.

Sarah Zinger, Courtney Whitworth, Katie DeGrande, DeGrand probably, Jerrica Marie, Christy Weed, Tanya Dobro, oh boy, Dobro Zdonsky, Amy Mason, Jason Pearson, Tammy Little, Doug Flash, Michael Gilliand, Gilli Land, good Christ, that's a tough one, Diane Warman, Lisa Danforth, Justine, would know last name, Chris, not Christ. Chris Crow. We got the Speaker of the House, ex Speaker of the House, we got fucking Christ, you know, fucking Buddha's gonna give us a couple bucks next month, you never know. Nyler, Nyla, with no last name,

Bomber307, Greg Lindbergh, the baby, grew up. Tiffany Muzzy, yikes, Mousy, golly. Commander in Queef, oh, the commander, James. Well, and the ex-speaker of the house. Both? In Queef. Wow, now that is, we've really cracked this different stratosphere here.

Classy people. Charlie Kane, Honeynit. Harry would know last name. Happy birthday, Julia Menk. C. Ryan Shields. Meyerlunk Queen. Dakota Experiments Transmedia Universe. I don't know what that is. Will Nelson. Definitely not Willie, but certainly a Will named Nelson. Moe with no last name, probably the bartender. Sarah Talent. Sarah Kelly. Darren Wilson. Amy Pendergrass, Pendergrass, Petergrass, no, that's an N.

Beth Story, Ryan Maralotte, Heather Sims, Bree Beach, Thomas Riser, Bea with no last name, Reed Sadler, Brad Halsey, Joe Murphy, Ocho with no last name, Ruby Gonzalez, Tina Miranda, Jonathan Grover, Alex Kenny, Lexi with no last name, Jennifer Mielke, C and B. What is this? Justin Hanley, Jhildi 11, Dan Danmott,

BF, our best friend evidently, Dakota Savage, Nora Bird, Justine Nyk, Newguist, oh it's a Q, yeah, Nikki MF, MF and Star, she's a star James, don't tell her she's not. Motherfucking star bitch, that's right. Angie with no last name, Jim B, Mandy 100, DJ Jordan, Jeanette Nix, JC Jutai, Rebecca Morgan, Harrison Bequetti, Brian Himmler, oh my fucking, we're moving on. Joe Ayers. That's a tough one.

Elwood Blues. Watch what you name your kids. Heinrich's a bad idea. Just changed the last name. How fucking great could the last name be that, I mean it's overshadowed. I don't think anybody's gonna. That is not good yeah yeah no you can't there's a few names from there about five of them that you really don't want can't do it Joe Ayers Elwood blues Desiree would know last name Nancy Hamilton Jeremiah Romero Tony Tone punky ween

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