Crime in Sports - #416 - I'm No Pervert - "Fast" Eddie Johnson - Part 3

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

This week, we finish up this tale with Eddie already out of the NBA, but hopefully, on a better path. He wasn't. He was immediately arrested for burglary, and cocaine, then gets busted for se...lling crack to police. In the end, he commits one of the most terrible, awful crimes that even exists, ruining several lives, in the process, including a guy with the same name, who played for the same NBA team. He claims innocence, but is anyone buying it? Snort your way out of the NBA, use up all the good will of your family & friends, and die in in prison, after committing an absolutely unspeakable crime with "Fast" Eddie Johnson!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:39 Thank you folks so much for joining us today on part three of Fast Eddie Johnson. Fast Eddie took three weeks. He's not very fast when it comes to getting through them on episodes, but he's done a lot of garbage and today we get to the penultimate awful shit crime and then some funny lawsuits also that we didn't get to the first time. There's some funny shit. I can't wait to do this. So this is going to be a lot of fun.
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Starting point is 00:02:11 all of it every bit and everything included this week is no different every other week you get new ones this week for crime in sports yeah fun stuff we're gonna talk about fireworks accidents because it's the fourth of July coming up so that'll be a lot of fun Let's find out about that. We have our own fireworks accident stories. I sure do Jimmy's missing a piece of himself because of it So we'll talk about we'll talk about which piece and what happened and then yeah for small-town murder Another very fun one we're gonna talk about the real tombstone Oh, yeah, get into the Wyatt Earps and the Cowboys and you know what the movie didn't tell you like the Earps were kind of dicks
Starting point is 00:02:50 And the Cowboys were even bigger scumbags and you could have thought they were oh, yeah Yeah, and also the endings isn't quite what happened everybody and we'll get into all that stuff. So that's how mix did what? Yes That is a Patreon.com slash crime in sports and you get a shout out at the end of the show to Jimmy's going to mispronounce your name. You got it covered. You can write it down. You can spell it phonetically.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Doesn't matter. It'll get fucked up. And that's normal because yeah, a man's woman, man's name, a woman's name. It's really hard to just be. It's hard to be doing. Oh, there's a Polish name. Then, you know, this Italian name. It's a lot to mix in together., it's hard to be doing, oh, there's a Polish name, then, you know, this Italian name, it's a lot to mix in together.
Starting point is 00:03:27 So it's tough to do. So that said, I think it's time to talk about one of the biggest scumbags of all time. Let's do it, yeah. I mean, the Sergio Mitres of the world might have displaced Fast Eddie as a, and we still haven't decided, I don't think, when we do these re-dos, I don't think they're eligible for scummies
Starting point is 00:03:46 In the new year because they were already up for a scummy So I feel like if you rerelease a movie you can't it's not up for an Oscar You know what I mean? I don't think so. I think it's only on the remaster Yeah, if it's the same script, yeah, just I don't think you could do that So I've got if you've remade the movie in a different movie, that is possible. Yeah. Remake Willy Wonka, it's always up. That's true. So maybe.
Starting point is 00:04:07 We'll see how it goes. So let's get into this here. We're going to start out in 1987. I don't know if we got to where he signed with Seattle for 87, but he signs with Seattle. He was on Seattle for 86, 87. And then that's when he signed the contract for the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And I think that's where we left off here. That's where we left him. So yeah, Seattle extends his contract and the coach, Bernie Bickerstaff, said he's going to be a good boost to the offense for the playoffs. He's a quick, he's fast Eddie so you can inject him in there and he, you know, and he's gonna bring energy to the table. Like Vinny Johnson, Vinny the Microwave Johnson, a guy like that, yeah, quick off the bench guy.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And in the first quarter of game two of the Western Conference Finals, he came off the bench to score 10 points out of that. Wow. And got him an instant offensive boost, but they lost the game, so it doesn't matter. Sure. He thinks that he says though, during the game three,
Starting point is 00:05:11 before the game, Eddie said he would like to think that his performance the night before is just announcing my return to being Eddie Johnson and being a prominent member of the NBA. He said, quote, that felt good. The thing about it is that the Lakers play an aggressive man on man defense. And I felt I could penetrate and make them leave their guys and come after me. You make them penetrate rather than Eddie doing the penetrating, which is his problem here. He said it worked, but it was just us making adjustments to the way they were playing. Now they will adjust
Starting point is 00:05:44 and we'll have to do something else And he said this year after having to play for the Tampa Bay thrillers of the CBA Yeah, he said this year has been my fantasy ride. Oh really? It's his fantasy ride yeah, he said being in Cleveland was a waste and He just joined Tampa because he needed to be out there and be visible to people. He said I knew I was gonna have to work my way back into the league. I went about it the right way in a professional manner. I knew someone would notice if I worked hard at my craft. It's true yeah. And they did yeah
Starting point is 00:06:17 plus they're you know looking for people. They said and Bickerstaff the coach said this is you're not gonna hear this very often about Eddie Johnson So yeah, you can write this down and frame it quote Eddie had been a positive influence on and off the court for our younger guards You want you're letting this guy around Showing the young guys how it's done. No, you keep him in like one of those cages, right you feel like Like a like a North Korean prison camp cage like just enough just as big enough for a man you keep him in there until he's ready to be let out
Starting point is 00:06:51 and play don't let him around your younger guards he's just gonna give him coke yeah he's gonna go you know yeah at least tell him how it's done you know how to buy a house guys you give him a thousand dollars and then you just move in that's how it works Look then is yours, then it's just your house so he was doing well. He said those first few games I was just playing on adrenaline That's what Eddie said what they said Bickerstaff said problems. No. He's been just the opposite of problems really yeah, that's right So that's there wow Wow, that's wild. I just I don't know why you would say this guy is going to be a good like influence. No problems on your other guards. But Bickerstaff said Eddie really helped us against the Lakers
Starting point is 00:07:38 the other night. But on the bench or with the bench we've got production will decide how many minutes each player gets in each game. There's no time to waste in the playoffs. If you're producing, you stay in. If not, you come out. Okay. And he said, Physically, I've worked my way into good shape, but I leave the minutes up to Bernie because he knows what needs to be done. And he said, Listen, Bernie cares about his players. We all worry about ourselves. But when you've got someone like Bernie caring for you, it really makes the difference I figure if you can't play for Bernie, you can't play for anyone Very nice approach to let the coach coach. That's nice. Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:08:14 Hesitate to say it but is he good now has he finally figured out the way it? Yeah, the right way to do things. It seems like he's good now. The coach is saying he's good now Yeah, he is fucking set and ready to go here. So April 10th, 1987, he says he's doing well and he's off drugs. Okay, all done. This is what we need. He's done, he said, this is my favorite line ever.
Starting point is 00:08:38 Quote, cocaine is a big lie. Oh, is it? Yeah, to me, cocaine is one of the few truths in the world. Yeah. A lot of addicts will tell you that it is the truth. It's the truth. For sure. If you do cocaine, you will get high.
Starting point is 00:08:54 That's the truth. Oh, yeah. Cocaine isn't telling you it's going to be good for you. It's not telling you it's going to make you make good life decisions. Its job is to get you high and it does it. What did it tell you, Eddie? Did it speak to you? Picture him picking up a little bag and putting it next to his ear and someone's talking and
Starting point is 00:09:14 he goes, shh, shut up. Trying to hear what this cocaine has to say. It's telling me things. He said when you take cocaine, everything you think is real is not really real. Yeah, that's drugs in not really real. Yeah that's drugs in general usually. Yeah man it's altering your brain. Wait till you take some acid you'll be like wow. Don't you dare try it. Makes me see shit that isn't even there. Never mind. Maybe wade the waters of mushrooms first. Oh shit oh my god so yeah that's they're talking about all of
Starting point is 00:09:42 this stuff and he said since I've been clean I love he's like, that's all in the past now. Now I can, now I can pontificate. Yeah. Now I can think about, it's like a life. It's like when you're done with war, you know what I mean? You come home and you're like back when I was in the war, you know, like it's all over now. It's all ceasefire now. It's all done. But crawling through the muck. Since I've been clean out of the rice patties He said I found out there's so much out there that you can enjoy weird. Oh, I thought the world was just basketball and cocaine I didn't realize that there was a Another gear you could hit here. Yeah, he said all kids should stay away from drugs. That's a really that's terrific
Starting point is 00:10:24 That is quite the statement there, Eddie. Well done, Reagan. In depth, yeah. Also, duh is the other thing. Thanks for the obvious things. I think children should do heroin. Yeah, it's like all children should be given needles and see which ones are good at it.
Starting point is 00:10:45 So see if they can hold their high. He said there's no goodness in them in drugs. No goodness Whatever that means or children. We don't know He said anybody tells you different they're liars. So now they're liars cocaine's a liar The only ones honest here is Eddie not a of people tell him the truth around here. Not at all. Eddie, our Bernie Bickerstaff said, it's not really a gamble when you're talking about somebody's life and you're giving him an opportunity. It's all in Eddie's hands and so far he's done an excellent job for us.
Starting point is 00:11:17 And Eddie said, yeah, because he said he has educated himself about his past problems and now he knows the NBA is a privilege that he needs to take one day at a time. Oh it's not a guarantee. It's not a guarantee. It's not the world doesn't know you being in the NBA you know what I mean. So he said now I know you got to earn. He said quote I realize the consequences you know what let's do it in their own words here I think I think that's appropriate okay in their own words quote I realize the consequences. I'm aware of what I'm dealing with more now
Starting point is 00:11:48 than ever before. It's just something I have to deal with, and I think I'm dealing with it pretty well. I haven't had any problems, but the thing is, I just have to be aware of it all this time. Right, somebody doesn't want to go back to make an eight grand a year playing for Tampa. He's like, man, there was no pussy down there.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Like, I mean, when you're done with the game, the girls don't run up to you. They don't. In the NBA, girls give you coke down there. If you want to get laid, you got to have coke. This is a different dynamic. I'm not used to. It's crazy. Even in the arena, all dudes, all dudes, man. And they won't even want to fuck you it's weird. Real sausage fest at these games. Fucked up man. He said I think we handle this is Bernie Bickerstaff the coach I think we handled it the right way.
Starting point is 00:12:37 We talked to our players before we signed him and they accepted him. So he was coming into a situation where he was wanted. That's it, that's important here. And Eddie finally says the CBA, when he played for the thrillers, which is just a funny name for a team that nobody watches. He said the CBA was one way for me to stay in shape and showcase my talents, but it was really a humbling experience.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I'd pick up a newspaper and see everybody I used to play with working when I wasn't. Doing great. Doing great. Making money. You're like, that guy got laid after that game. Fuck. How many did he get? A lot of Dominique on the cover of Jam magazine.
Starting point is 00:13:16 No shit, man. So yeah, this year for the Sonics overall in 86-87, nine points a game. He's a bench guy. 21 minutes a game now. So not the same. He's not getting the same kind of minutes. But he's getting money still. He's still getting paid. Yeah, he's getting paid and he's not like a cast away anymore. He's not on this island by himself. And they said that he's already been invited back to camp again and they're looking at him as a backup point guard behind Nate McMillan possibly. Oh. So yeah they said that's interesting but they did draft a guy in the third round Tommy
Starting point is 00:13:55 Amaker who they said is expected to battle Johnson for the backup job here. He's gonna lose to Amaker? Yes. So that is a big fluff piece on him saying how yeah right now is great and the future looks way brighter even like it's gonna be so great and then he fails to follow through on mandatory counseling that's part of his deal to be in the NBA mandatory drug counseling. No he's supposed to show up and do these meetings basically. Yeah, those are tough. Reminding you of how much of a piece of shit you are. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:30 That's no good. That's no good at all. It's just counseling, it's probably, it's probably not one-on-one. It's probably just a, you gotta go to AA or you gotta go to NA or whatever the fuck it is. But he doesn't do it and that's part of the deal. So the NBA in July of 87 suspends Eddie Johnson.
Starting point is 00:14:44 Oh. And that's it, now he fucked up, that's part of the deal so the NBA in July of 87 suspends Eddie Johnson. Oh, and that's it now. He fucked up. That's it Now it's all over with because you can't fucking amaker. We got a maker. We got a maker Yeah, they're not they were he had to be perfect from now on that's it. No speeding tickets No talking at a turn none of this shit He was like not a starter on the thinnest device. And then he goes and does this and they're like, well, we don't need that shit. Goodbye. Fuck off. And that's it for him. So that's going to be his career. Uh, career averages here, 15.1 points a game. Not bad. 2.3 rebounds and 5.1 assists. All because he missed a meeting. I mean, while it was the funnel was thinner, the funnel was wide before he could a meeting. All because he missed a meeting. I mean, well, it was, the funnel was thinner.
Starting point is 00:15:26 The funnel was wide before he could miss meetings, he could fucking come late, high on coke, it was fine. Now you miss one meeting, you're out. Fuck off. It wasn't because he missed a meeting, but I mean, that was a straw. It turns out, that's what came out publicly, that he didn't go to a counseling session, but it turns out he was arrested for coke again. That's why. Oh, God. Which is why he didn't show up for the meeting, which is why
Starting point is 00:15:49 he was suspended. Yeah. What are you going to do? Show up and go just got out of jail for more coke? I just got coke guys. Fuck man. I only want coke. So October 16th 1987 here they're talking about he is arrested again and being held at the Fulton County jail on several charges. Yes no Fulton County is Atlanta that's where Atlanta is. Is it? Oh Fulton County Stadium was where the Braves used to play. Fulton County? Yeah that was the stadium they played in was Fulton County Stadium before they built Ted Turner Field. I'm sure. Is that Fulton County? Yeah, that was the stadium they played in, was Fulton County Stadium before they built Ted Turner Field or whatever the fuck it is now. I'm sure there's another Fulton,
Starting point is 00:16:29 but that's probably where he was in Atlanta. I'm sure, yeah, he's in Atlanta, because I guess he made his home base there when he was with the Hawks for those years. So he's arrested for passing a bad check. Uh-oh. He's out of the league for like three months, he's already got no money.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Is he writing checks for Coke? I don't know if you can, I don't know if, and and then the coke dealer was like I already gave him an eight ball like I can't Know it's he'd snorted it all up. I have no recourse here. I got to take him to court also aggravated assault and theft of services as well What do you do probably with the bad check? That's probably in there Someone said this check is bad And then he punched him and took what he had anyway
Starting point is 00:17:07 If it sounds like if I have to put together a scenario from the charges like that joke I used to do about people's yeah the same fucking thing I feel like maybe it was like a cab ride tried to write a check that makes sense They wouldn't take a check so they punched him and so he punched a check at him and ran off also simple a bad simple battery And here's the cherry on top, abandonment of a minor child. What? So he's in a cab, he writes a check, they say this isn't any good and then he punches the cab driver and runs away and leaves his kid in the car.
Starting point is 00:17:39 That's what it sounds like to me at this point. Then take the child. Take this child as collateral. So that's not great. That doesn't look good. No, that's so bad. And it's right before the start of the NBA season too. So if he wasn't ever coming back before, now he's definitely never fucking coming back
Starting point is 00:17:55 again. So he was transported to Lake County, Florida from Atlanta on drug charges. I guess his drug charges in Florida were more. Authorities in Atlanta served him with a warrant charging him with the sale of cocaine and possession of cocaine with intent to sell in Florida. Oh no. That's worse now.
Starting point is 00:18:15 This is way worse than punching a cab driver. Bell was set at $40,000 and he can't afford it. No, he doesn't have that. Passing bad checks. His checks are bad. Yeah, he's like, can I write a check for that? No, fuck. God damn it.
Starting point is 00:18:31 Do you take eight year olds? Can I just leave you with a child? I've got children. I've got children. One's named after me, what do you say? So he is moved there. Now by December, now all come all the articles about how it's all going down the train.
Starting point is 00:18:47 It's all it's all over for six months ago. He was the greatest thing since sliced bread success story and fluff pieces left and right. And Eddie's done this a lot of like on the train and then it's ugly in six months, like real ugly. It gets so fucking bad. It's now he's it's Orlando Sentinel to like home area and Dealing drugs. I love the first Fucking sentence of this it says Wearsdale native Eddie Johnson jr. His dad's like hey come on When he's in the NBA he was never Eddie Johnson jr. Right never said Eddie Johnson jr. Drops 25 on the nets. That never was a fucking thing that was said. Now he's a complete fuck up, not even a pro ball player
Starting point is 00:19:30 anymore. Now he's junior. Thanks a lot guys. He's a fucking draft in a couple rounds after tree Rollins is just Eddie Johnson. Now it's junior. Now it's junior. Great. So they're saying in this article, counselors are pleading with him to get help for reported drug, alcohol, and mental health problems, and family and friends quote, have tearfully waited up at night, praying that Fast Eddie would somehow safely steer himself home. Holy fuck, he's a disaster. They said long fascinated by the powerful euphoria illicit drugs can bring, Johnson figuratively has had his finger poised on a hair trigger self-destruct button for more
Starting point is 00:20:12 than a decade. Wow, an admitted cocaine addict who began experimenting with the drug as a student at Auburn, Johnson has slammed into a dead end. His place of residence these days is a gray, spiritless cell at Lake County Jail. Jesus Christ. He, by the way, is arrested here for selling the sale of Coke. Twenty dollars worth of crack to undercover cops. That's what he did. Twenty bucks. Twenty bucks. So he's selling crack though. That's what that says. Enough to where he sold it to virtual strangers if they're agents. He doesn't know that much about him. Yeah, he doesn't know anything about these people. It's not like he split
Starting point is 00:20:53 a bag with his friend or something and they charged him with sales. This is... Oh boy. Selling under covers. He could be sentenced to as much as 18 months in prison. And this article says long enough to force him to miss another NBA season I think it's we can pretty much put the NBA on the shelf at this point yeah he's been getting arrested constantly since he hasn't played last time yeah not good at all so he's a fucking mess they say now his pace once his frenetic off the court is on it is more deliberate having been throttled by the leg irons he must wear when greeting a visitor at the jail. Not too fast with leg
Starting point is 00:21:31 irons. They said that he insists he's been clean and steadfastly maintains his innocence. So he's arrested for coke related shit like three times in five months and that's all bullshit. Yeah. And selling to undercover agents. I'm innocent. Totally. Well, he says not only is he innocent of the July, this is for July 29th is when this happened when they're charging him now.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Not only is he innocent, he said, I wasn't even in central Florida on that day. Oh. It was another, you know how many Eddie Johnsons there are? A shitload. We'll find out in a little while. A lot of them. So fucking many of them. Yeah, we do know at least one of them.
Starting point is 00:22:11 Oh yeah, that'll come up too by the way. So yeah, they said this was by the way outside of a bar west of Leesburg, Florida. Oh boy. I got $20 worth of crack to sell you outside of a bar. And is his excuse quote. I'm not an unintelligent guy. I would not sell cocaine I have more going for me than to sell a $20 rock. No, you don't you don't Name one fucking thing you have going for you at this moment Also, that's a lot of syllables to say, I'm not dumb. I'm not dumb.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I'm not an unintelligent guy. A what? Because that sounds more intelligent than to say, I'm not stupid, man. So then they talk about his brother, Frank, here. He said, Eddie was once a high roller who insisted on the finest cars, even if he just test drove them and drove them.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Yeah, even if he just takes them home. Jesus. And the most expensive restaurants, though he bristles at suggestions that he's broke, how could he not be broke? Yeah. How do you have money at all? You didn't make $30 million. How are you going to have any fucking money?
Starting point is 00:23:20 You can't afford bail. Well, they said, even though he says he's not broke, he can't afford the $4,000 he needs to pay a bail bondsman to get out from under his $40,000 bail. So if you sit in jail in lieu of four grand, you don't have four grand. You don't have money. You're broke. Because guess what you do if you had four grand? You'd fucking pay that bail.
Starting point is 00:23:40 You'd get the fuck out of jail. Every fucking time. It'll do anything. So, before his arrest, by the way, he had just separated from his wife, who by the way was born in Italy. Oh no shit. Yeah, she said, I've had enough of you. And that was that.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Oh man, she probably tried to cut him. I swear to God, that's rough. So that's a good gal to get, with that spaghetti sucker of hers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, as we know. That's a good one. So at the Lake County Jail here, they're talking about he sits behind a heavy wire screen and bars that are clearly visible from the street. He awaits a trial date that may be set when he's arrayed Wednesday. It is his decision, he says, not to post bail. He could post the bail any time he wants.
Starting point is 00:24:29 I'm teaching Eddie a lesson. You know what? Sometimes Big Eddie's got to sit little Eddie down and have a little chat with him. And that's what I'm doing right now. He says, quote, I am content. No, you're not. You're content in jail? You can't say I'm an upstanding citizen and I am content. No, you're not. You're content in jail? You can't say I'm an upstanding citizen
Starting point is 00:24:48 and I'm content in jail. That's not normal. Normal people are not content in jail. He ate it. If you are, fucking, you're a dangerous person. Yes, only scumbags are content in jail. They get to jail and they go, all right, now I can relax.
Starting point is 00:25:04 No. And you know, I can sit. I'm fine sitting. I don't care where it is. The problem is it's the people that you're around. That's the main problem. And I'm not content being around whoever has to be in jail. And then we're all shitting in front of each other. That's the other thing. I got to watch grown men poop. I don't need to see that. Basic human needs and I've got to do those while somebody else does theirs and they happen To be a fucking child abuser or a rapist or anything fuck. He's doing yeah content Consent I'm content to sit here until I can get this behind me. Okay. Yeah, it is wild
Starting point is 00:25:41 I don't see how that's gonna How does he expect people to believe that? Let's just say that. And how are you gonna put it behind you? By doing time? You're content doing time? That's fucking insane. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:25:55 So in July, he apparently in July, he was, the NBA was tipped off that he'd been seen drinking beer in a bar in Atlanta. He's not allowed to do any of that shit. So the league ordered him back to the NBA drug treatment facility in California, but he argued to his counselors that he hadn't had a relapse. He said, I just drank a beer. I didn't have any fucking relapse.
Starting point is 00:26:17 I'm not on coke. So he got all pissed off and walked out. He was supposed to be there for two weeks and he just walked out. Oh. And that's when the NBA suspended him and so they say in this article even if he's clear to these charges in Lake County of selling crack to undercover officers he can't play in the NBA again until he returns to Van Nuys and is discharged by his counselors. Yeah. So the NBA's three strikes plan they said he risks being banned for life from the NBA if his alleged cocaine related problems be continue and He says I'm not on drugs. Why won't anybody believe me?
Starting point is 00:26:57 I'm not on drugs. He says and I quote holy fuck. He's out of his mind. This is a long one, too This is fun quote. I get tired of my name being slandered by drugs. Drugs are just out there. Drugs are slandering him. Yeah, Coke is talking shit. I've heard it whisper and now other people can hear it too. People know cocaine talks to you. Blow talks, man.
Starting point is 00:27:18 It lies. It lies, it slanders people. That's the main thing. It's not the thing that fucks you up your life and all that It just talks a lot of shit. He said my thing is your thing is cocaine Eddie. That's stop right there. That's your thing It's coke. He said my thing is every time a problem arises. It doesn't have to do with drugs My wife and I were having some problems. I was staying with friends The only reason I was with our staying with friends is because I didn't want to have any confrontations with my wife. To them, meaning as drug counselors, that behavior was irrational.
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Starting point is 00:29:57 Legacy, and Black History for Real. He said, then there was a report about me drinking a beer. They said I'm not allowed to drink a beer because of the program. I went out there to Van Nuys, but the thing is they wanted me to go into the program. I refused. The thing is. The thing is, he loves saying that, but the thing is, but my thing is cocaine. So the doctors who administer the league's drug program cited confidentiality and wouldn't say anything about it. But everyone who knows Eddie Johnson's like,
Starting point is 00:30:26 come on, we all know what the fuck Eddie Johnson's doing here. Give me a goddamn break here. So yeah, he's a fucking mess. And the president of the Orlando Magic said, Eddie became a time bomb every summer. That's what happened, and that's exactly what it is. Remember Ted Turner said, if we could just find something for Eddie to do in July.
Starting point is 00:30:45 Keep him between the rails for that month. That's all it is. So he said that everything has been a fucking mess for Eddie and in September he failed to appear in Atlanta for a court hearing regarding a suspended license as well. In October he was held at the jail for passing a bad check and doing all that shit, the abandonment of a child. He was arrested for writing a bad check to the Hyatt Regency Hotel for $380.95. Then he was charged with hiring a taxi and refusing to pay. So the bad check is from there, that's from the taxi. It is a taxi. Refusing to pay, which then would make you have to punch a cab driver. Yep. Or, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Cab drivers back then, if you didn't pay them, they were going to fight you for it. That's how it worked. They're going to keep you in the car until the cops get here and then you pay. Something's going to happen here. They said authorities in Atlanta say most of the charges against him there have been dropped or otherwise resolved. Apparently, as he was about to be released, they ran a computer check against his social security number and what popped up was the warrant for his arrest from
Starting point is 00:31:49 Lake County for selling crack to fucking undercover agents. So they said it's, you know, pretty easy to figure this one out. They said that drug buys today apparently are so easy to make that undercover agents will make a slew in one weekend, often secretly videotaping the transactions. And they said arrests aren't made for weeks and months after they gather all the evidence. Takes a little bit, yeah. Figure out who they're writing warrants for and shit like that. We got to set the case up and then we'll knock it down.
Starting point is 00:32:17 Yeah, he does have a private lawyer though. No, really? Which is surprising. He has a lawyer who's not a public defender an attorney named Richard Boylston dick Boylston He said that it is my understanding that this is a one-time sale and that it occurred at night I don't know whether any they videotaped the by but Eddie Eddie's maintaining his innocence You just never know what these kind of buys anything on the street Can or anybody on the street can go around bragging that they're Eddie Johnson the pro basketball player is it is possible that it could have been a case of mistaken identity also people know him because he's Eddie
Starting point is 00:32:52 Johnson the basketball player which makes him very much more easily identifiable to people as everyone in the bar goes yeah that's fast Eddie Johnson you know the basketball player right and then somebody else goes yeah that motherfucker cost me three grand when he didn't come to the spread. When he doesn't show up for games and shit. Wow. The Sonics said, they're back in the mix now, the Sonics, they said there are an awful lot
Starting point is 00:33:17 of people pulling for Eddie Johnson, including this organization. But when you talk about Eddie Johnson playing basketball again, you're talking about something that is light years away Like what is him playing basketball again? Like first of all, he's older now But they're saying like he is nowhere near being considered playing basketball like Forward or backward because both there's no way it's happening forward. That's impossible. Either when he's 45 or 17, but not now. I think is what they're getting at.
Starting point is 00:33:50 So that's how that goes. Yeah, he said that he had a chance here and not their fault that he fucked it up. Yep, Eddie said that the thing that hurts is all the aggravation it's caused my family, my mother and my father and my fans. Being a public figure does not help. I understand what goes with the position.
Starting point is 00:34:10 I know a lot of responsibility goes with it and I have a responsibility to young people. Oh boy, keep that quote for later. I have a responsibility to young people. I guess you do. I am really upset with myself that I am in this situation and I will do everything I can to clear my name Yes, I know I have always lived fast. I am fast Eddie Johnson Fucking weird thing to say so in all of this steadfastly clearing his name and all this February 27th 1988 He pleads guilty to drug charges.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Oh. Pleads guilty to selling people, selling undercover officers cocaine, and he is ordered to perform, you sir, may fuck off, 250 hours of community service. Okay. During which he has to make the high school lecture circuit in Lake County to warn students about the dangers of drugs. Oh, the embarrassment. Yep. And the judge said, hey, I'm not giving Eddie a break, by the way, just so everybody knows. He's being given a chance to help youngsters lead better lives.
Starting point is 00:35:18 Why? I don't know. I think we've already had that. He's already had that chance, like a lot. I guess they're using him as a commodity. As like, you know what I mean? Exam already had that. He's already had that chance, like a lot. I guess they're using him as a commodity, as like, you know what I mean? An example? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I guess in the 80s, nowadays you can pull out anywhere and there's a hundred athletes that have had a problem and they can go talk to people. In the 80s, there wasn't a lot of guys who had admittedly gone through problems, I think, is probably what it was. Yeah, I don't think that you need an athlete to show how bad drugs are. Just grab any addict that lives on the street,
Starting point is 00:35:50 and that didn't tell you how bad it is. Grab a crackhead, yeah, that would help a lot. Get an actor. Just right off the street. But I think they're like, he fucked up an NBA career. He didn't have to do it. That's how bad that this shit is, is what they're trying to say here.
Starting point is 00:36:05 I think it's easier to fall into drugs when you've got expendable cash. Find a guy that has a nine to five in his living paycheck to paycheck and still throw it away. That poor bastard, that's the one that you're like, how did you do it? How were you partying originally? Yeah, how did you? Because an NBA player can spend 20 grand over a weekend and party and then get hooked on the shit and all that.
Starting point is 00:36:28 But not if you're with your friends and you all put in $20. How are you that into it? How did the finance director get this deal? Yeah, what the fuck, man? Wow. So he was represented by a public defender here because his private attorney dropped off
Starting point is 00:36:44 because he couldn't afford to pay him, which is pretty fucking funny. The judge said, if you or anyone in the courtroom think the reason you're not receiving a prison sentence is because you're a professional athlete, then you're sadly mistaken. I am not a basketball fan. No?
Starting point is 00:37:00 No, so if you got busted for that, they'd send you to high schools to talk about people? Probably not. I think the only reason he's getting this is literally because he's a fucking NBA player. The only comment Johnson made when he asked the whole time was asking the judge about transferring the jurisdiction of his probation and community service. He said, what are the chances of me getting those transferred to Atlanta? And they said, do the high school circuit first,
Starting point is 00:37:27 complete that and then we'll talk about it here. How's it go? I go on out to Atlanta. But I get out of here, yeah. By the way, the bar that he sold the crack at was the Bluebird Bar at County Road 468, west of Leesburg, Florida. That doesn't sound right.
Starting point is 00:37:44 That sounds shitty. That sounds so bad. June of 88, Tree Rollins is speaking out. Oh? Yeah, let's talk to the Tree here, see what he has to say. He said, that little white powder must be some kind of monster. Yes, it is, as we found out from a lot of people on the show. Did Metallica hear that?
Starting point is 00:38:04 Some kind of monster. They're like wow, Tree's a poetic genius. That's a great name for a documentary about watching us fall apart before your eyes. What do you say? We should do that. So it is, that's the thing. He said why would a professional athlete let this little powder jeopardize everything and Rollins said I haven't found that answer so all I can do is try to get let young people know what I've seen he said he spends his offseason tree does driving from one basketball camp to another to spread the sordid message about what he's witnessed in the NBA and especially? Especially Eddie Johnson, he tells them about Terry Furlough,
Starting point is 00:38:46 Eddie's best friend who died, talk about him. He talks about John Drew, who's a guy we'll do an episode about here, and another Coke guy, and of course Eddie Johnson. He's like, Eddie's in jail. He's like, this guy was good, he's my teammate, and teammate in college, we got drafted together, all this shit, now he's in jail.
Starting point is 00:39:04 And they said, does it help these talks to kids? And Eddie said, I was taking one of the campers home this morning. That's weird. And he was asking me if I enjoyed playing basketball. I told him that I'm doing what I love doing. I told him that in order for me to make the money I'm making now, I'd have to be a top executive or the owner of one of one of those major companies And I get about three months paid vacation for someone to go out and jeopardize all of that is just I really haven't found the answer
Starting point is 00:39:32 Yeah Yeah, that's as a normal person As laypeople that's what we go. We go. Holy fuck. That's the most insane greatest opportunity in the world And you're like man good fuck them. No, it's just that it the most insane greatest opportunity in the world. And you're like, man, good, fuck them. Not just that, it's just like I can do this for a third of the time that I would have to work a day job and still retire with way more money than I would. That's the fucking thing. And then I could figure out, I could do all the coke I want after that.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Right. Yeah. You know, I have to make the money first. The problem is by the time it's over and you're done and you've made all the money, and now you don't need the Coke because you're comfortable. Well also now, I mean the Coke is,
Starting point is 00:40:13 you're not living a fast lifestyle. You're sitting at home or hanging out with your family. You're not around people that have Coke now. Yeah, you generally don't need to be out trying to get pussy till four in the morning, I think is the main thing. I think that's the thing that fuels a lot of the beginnings of it, is that. You probably get pussy around 7.30 p.m. and then you're in bed by 8.15.
Starting point is 00:40:31 That's it. Maybe on a Sunday morning, you never know. See how it goes. She wakes you up friendly-like. Yeah, all friendly-like. So, Tree is looking at this like a normal person, though. That's how a normal person would look at his life and go, yeah, motherfucker, how do you, Jesus. Tree says the young players should know that not everybody wants to be your friend just for the sake of being your friend.
Starting point is 00:40:53 They should be able to tell what some people are out there to see what they can get. If you let yourself get involved with that, that's what happens. In the limelight, we are professional athletes. Now he's fucking singing Rush songs. In the limelight, we are professional athletes. It's very, very easy to get drugs.
Starting point is 00:41:12 In fact, it's easier right now to get drugs than it is to get a free meal. And all you, if you go to a restaurant rather than picking up the check, it's way easier for someone to come give you, offer you drugs. Really? Offer you coke. We get coke offered to us all the time. So yeah, it's way easier for someone to come give you offer you drugs yeah for you coke we get coke offered to us all the time so yeah it's gotta be and it's not the 80s and we have said a hundred times we don't fucking do coke and people still come up and go you guys want some coke no we don't but yeah we don't get free meals fucking anywhere no we're worried about our hearts
Starting point is 00:41:43 exploding at the mall. That's nice, yeah. That's nice, yeah. I got a couple of free things, but nothing crazy. Nothing that's like, you know, all the time or anything. No, God no. No, God no. Fuck so.
Starting point is 00:41:54 He says, yeah, you just can't explain it. Terry Furlough is one of the greatest guys ever. John Drew, Eddie Johnson, all those guys had so much talent, but you couldn't talk to them. I always knew when Eddie was having problems because he'd call me and when he got his when he got the stuff he would always shave his head. He's all jacked up and he starts shaving his head because he's bored. Yep he said and all because of that little white powder. Kids sometimes ask me how I know so much about drugs. They asked me how I how do I know that they might not be able to beat the problem.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I always come back to them and tell them I've never seen anybody come back from drugs and have a normal life. Jesus, really? How many people? Ever? I can name a thousand people who have done that. In the 80s it was different though. It really was.
Starting point is 00:42:42 These people, they were just, they hadn't had time to do it, fuck up, recover and then live 10 years of sobriety. The fucking up was still new at that point. People were still keeping it between the rails in the 60s and 70s I guess and then the 80s happened and it really went off the rails. And wait till the 90s man, you're about to see Robert Downey Jr. have a real turnaround. It happens a lot. Coke was once the early 80s is when the price plummeted and that's when everybody started doing it. Then it wasn't just like for rich people and shit then it
Starting point is 00:43:16 was everyone started doing it. He said no one can have a problem. Everyone can have a coke problem that they can't beat. He said no matter how long they stayed in a rehab center, everybody I've seen who's had a problem with drugs has gotten right back into it. I've never seen anybody beat it. Not one. Tree, I think you've been around five people that you know of here. I think you only know Eddie Johnson. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:43:37 So they talk about Chris Washburn, who you know about. We talked about him too. And he said when he came to us at the middle of the season, we tried everything as a team to get into the family and get him to hang out with us we haven't been able to bring him in and he's still having problems yeah I would say so so that was they were saying during the fourth quarter timeout of a game seven of the Atlanta Boston playoff series. The camera zoomed in on Chris Washburn and there he was asleep on the bench. He was asleep.
Starting point is 00:44:11 So November 23rd, 1988, Eddie is good now. Now he's good. He's doing great. Yep, according to his brother, Frank. Look at this tree. Yep, what do you think of that? According to Frank, his brother says that his addiction is waned. He said he's getting therapy and doing his community service.
Starting point is 00:44:32 He's not working, just getting his life together and he's doing great. That's good. Yep. So August 1989, doing great. Remember this, he is at the top of everything. He's arrested. Uh oh. For breaking into two houses. Remember this. He is at the top of everything. He's arrested for breaking into two houses. Oh my.
Starting point is 00:44:48 And he acknowledges stealing $9,130 worth of goods to buy crack. Nine thousand dollars? Nine grand worth of shit to buy crack is what he said. Wow. He's going to fence that for 20 bucks? That is fucking amazing. Yeah, all that for $100 worth of crack. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:45:08 So he is gonna be charged with two counts of burglary, two counts of grand theft, and jailed on a $14,000 bond. He is obviously, this isn't good for him. He's a fucking mess. Later that year, he unlawfully admits unlawfully entering a woman's home and taking her $250 VCR, which he then sold for $20 on the street to buy crack. That is the crackiest thing.
Starting point is 00:45:33 That's the crackiest thing of all time right there, as we've talked about. Now you can be a crackhead and shit, but there's no more VCRs to steal. The crackheadiest thing you could do is steal a VCR and fucking For crack. It's really a shame. I'm nostalgic for those times I'm this down to somebody's house for a sound design jank for VCR times. Yeah They stole my toshiba To sell for $20 for crack money. And VCRs were expensive back then. Yeah, they were.
Starting point is 00:46:08 They were fucking pricey. So September 2nd, 89 here, he charged with all this shit and wow, in the second burglary, it was only $900 were taken, including a VCR and a rifle. Oh no, you can't do that. No, but you can sell that for some quick cash though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Quick cash.
Starting point is 00:46:27 Then in 2000 now, we're gonna fast forward quite a bit, the 90s, Eddie just dropped off the face of the earth. Silence, yeah. He got arrested a lot, we know, but there's not anything out there. They stopped reporting on his arrests because he didn't matter anymore. Because he didn't matter.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Didn't fucking matter anymore. It's just another bracket. And it's so hard. I looked up, I mean, we did a lot on this to try to find details of some of these and on all of the background search websites. Strange thing, there's a shitload of Eddie Johnsons out there.
Starting point is 00:46:56 Yeah, it's a couple of very popular names. I found people with his exact first, middle, and last name born in the same month and year as him. Wow. So I mean it's so fucking confusing when you get to that. That's going on. But with no arrests. So now by 19, that's the 89 thing. By 2000, he's still smoking crack, doing coke. He's still doing the exact, nothing has changed from 89 to 2000 mind you in 2000 he strikes a deputy several times during a drug arrest
Starting point is 00:47:35 Fighting him fighting him off. He should be so used to this by now any hands behind your back. You have drugs He should just immediately yeah If he sees a cop on the street, he should just put his hands behind his back just out of reflex He's got to be afraid by now that behind his back, just out of reflex. Yeah, but he's gotta be afraid by now that every arrest could be the last one that puts him away forever, you know what I mean? He doesn't know. And then he's gonna exacerbate it by punching?
Starting point is 00:47:54 Don't do that. Fuck no. So, well then they got in and they were booking him. During booking, he tried to punch the cop in the nose again and missed. Again. And missed, he didn't get him there Then he's released from that
Starting point is 00:48:13 Later that year he is and this is very sad for fast Eddie Johnson, okay Shit has gone awry for his fastness He is shoplifting at Target. Oh No gets out of the store and is chased down by a Target security guard. Oh no. No, no, no, no, no, no. That man needs Target popcorn on his break, man. And now he's known as Fast Target security guard. I can now take your title of Fast since I outran you.
Starting point is 00:48:42 Well, that guy's all charged up on popcorn and I see this is a he's he's got a he did it with a cherry icy in his hand which is the more impressive part that's what's more impressive he was like out of the straws he fucking was running it's a lot of sugar it'll get you do that and do you know what Eddie stole from the store? Oh, was it a VCR? $98.94 worth of clothes in 2000. Oh boy. What, did he put four pairs of pants on? That's what I mean, yeah, he must have.
Starting point is 00:49:13 He probably did that old thing. Two pairs of something, yeah. Or had a bag and just stuck the shit in the bag and took off, I don't know if it was for him. Changed his shoes, I don't know. I don't know if it was for him or to sell. $100 outfit from fucking Target? From Target.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Jesus. Shit. So then some more time goes by. By 2006, July of 2006, he's charged with battery on a law enforcement officer and resisting or obstructing an officer without violence too. Okay. So, not good. No.
Starting point is 00:49:42 That's July 2006. Then August 2006, now we're going to have to get into dates because it's very specific, August 6th 2006, okay? He is charged with sexual battery and burglary in commission of a rape of a 25 year old woman in an Ocala, Florida motel room Yikes Eddie. This is you are just into an disgusting motel Sexual battery and burglary
Starting point is 00:50:14 I don't know if he was he she might have let him in and then he started beating her up and stealing her shit And raping her who knows because I didn't see like breaking and entering or any of that burglary is that's just stealing some shit without you know force who just took it so apparently that's not great at all. This could just be a crack party. It could have been that's what I mean he could have got out of control he's like I'd be where's the razor I'm trying to shave my head. She didn't have it so you know he lost his fucking mind. Give me a Mach 3.
Starting point is 00:50:41 Give me a mark three. Give me a mark three now So that is our August 6 2006 6 August 9th 2006 three days later 72 hours later. Yes, okay He is arrested for one of the worst things you could possibly do on as People walking on two fucking legs He's arrested for sexually assaulting an eight-year-old girl. What? Eight.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Not 18. 72 hours after rape. After rape he's like, well, let me do this now. An eight-year-old. Which, of all the things we've heard from Eddie so far, usually, you're a, pedophiles are usually pedophiles. It's baked in, you know what I mean? And usually it's not new. You don't graduate to that. No, even if later on they get caught for being a pedophile, you go, oh yeah, there was a
Starting point is 00:51:36 few weird things he did. This has never come up before. He's raped adult women. So it's very strange that all of a sudden now he's raping eight year olds. But this is what he did. And he is going to be held without bail for doing this. Finally, someone's going to hold him without bail. Johnson tells the Marion County judge that he wants to. This is a man. Okay. You're on trial for raping an eight year old. You know, I'm not Jimmy, you're on trial for raping. eight-year-old. You. No, I'm not. Jimmy, you're on trial for raping an eight-year-old. All right, let's see where this goes. Okay, who are you hiring as a lawyer? Fucking, I am finding, every time I have,
Starting point is 00:52:16 I'm finding the best person. But what kind of person's it gonna be? It's gonna be a lady, number one. A very nice lady. A very nice lady, soft-spoken, who's gonna vouch for me. Who doesn't believe this either. She's horrified that it would happen to anybody, but not my client.
Starting point is 00:52:31 No, he says, I'd like to represent myself. Oh my God. Yeah. I'm the only person who can get the app on this. The only person that can explain this is me. Is me. And they went, we're gonna go ahead and assign you a public defender because...
Starting point is 00:52:46 You can't defend this. You're just on a lot of coke right now and you've got a hubris going on that you really feel like you could do this. But once you come down, you'll know you can't. It's not good. Wow. Maybe he just doesn't want to tell somebody what he did and he just wants to lie. I'll just do it myself.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Yeah. I can lie to myself, but it's hard to lie to anybody else. He's charged with sexual battery on a child under the age of 12. That has a ring to it, doesn't it? And residential burglary for entering the apartment where the girl was staying while her mother was out. Now, I don't know why the mother's leaving fucking eight-year-olds at home alone either, but I doubt she thought rape was gonna be the worst thing could happen Well, I mean if she's locked in the house usually in I mean there's financial situation to make people leave kids All the time, but if she's locked in the house, that's about as safe as it gets, right? You thought worse happened. She can burn a pop-tart. You know what I mean? Yeah, like that's the worst that's gonna happen here
Starting point is 00:53:43 She's gonna make a mess but not be raped by an NBA player. I don't think that was what was that's not That's not on the list of worries. It's not on a list of worries in this article It says he is not to be confused with the Eddie Johnson who's now a television analyst for the Phoenix Suns Yeah, that'll come up big because the Chicago Tribune forgot to put that in there And as a matter of fact when this first came out the Chicago Tribune forgot to put that in there. And as a matter of fact, when this first came out, the Chicago Tribune reported it as that Eddie Johnson has been arrested for this. We'll find out. Literally, they were like, I don't know, I just saw it and put it out and check it. And they were like, what are you fucking talking about?
Starting point is 00:54:17 Why this day one of journalism? You son of a bitch. Fucking idiot. So the girl and her three brothers were staying in the apartment where while their mother, the mother went out to register them for school. Get the fuck out of here. It's August. So she went to register. She just, they had moved to this apartment recently, so she's got to register them for
Starting point is 00:54:39 a new school. And it's such a pain in the ass to take four kids with you. Just stay home. I'll get this handle. I'll be right back. Yep. Apparently, the door was open. The mother didn't lock the door, one of the kids unlocked the door. Eddie Johnson just walked into the apartment uninvited and told the girl's six-year-old brother to go ahead and lock that door behind me. So the kid locked the door. Johnson then told this little girl to go into her bedroom where he went in there, pulled her pants off and fondled her first, and then raped her. Good Lord. A fucking child. And then said,
Starting point is 00:55:19 don't tell anybody about this. Okay. Great. Thanks, Eddie Mums the word Ed. Yeah, well just this is all what the fuck man this is horrible. Yeah, not to tell anyone about what just happened. And then before then he like they all went out in the living room and then he tried to kiss her in the kitchen before he left the apartment as well. Yikes. You fucking disgusting piece of shit. Like it's a real legit date. Like he just had a date with an eight-year-old that wasn't planned. He just stopped by. Soon as the mother got home, the girl told her exactly what happened, which good. I'm glad that she wasn't afraid to say that. The girl's mother then went to police. Thank fuck the girl. You know what I mean? Thank fuck everyone's got their shit together enough to be like Yeah, I know this is bad that he did to me number one
Starting point is 00:56:10 Which means that he it probably hasn't happened to her before which is good And then the mother goes holy fuck police is the first thing she thinks proper Wow sometimes we get it where that doesn't happen so right The girl's mother told detectives she knew Eddie from the neighborhood, but he never had permission to be in the house. She didn't say. She's an around the way boy.
Starting point is 00:56:32 She doesn't even know him from the NBA. She just said, I know him from the neighborhood. Didn't tell him he can stop by when my kids are home alone and hang out with them at all. He was arrested in a field near the apartment building. So he just went and hung out. A field. He told detectives, yeah, I field near the apartment building. So he just went and hung out. A field. He told detectives, yeah, I was in the apartment
Starting point is 00:56:48 with the kids, but I didn't do anything. He said that the kids were jumping on the bed while I was there, that's it. They were just jumping on the bed, and they were like, what'd you do? Put himself in the crime scene. Oh yeah, well he knows he went in there and left fingerprints everywhere probably.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Yeah, oh there's that, yeah. He knows he's to say I was there, but I can't say, you know, I was there and then attacked a fucking eight-year-old. So he said they were just jumping on the bed the whole time I was there. So this girl doesn't know the difference between being raped and jumping on a bed apparently. She's real dumb. This kid is what Eddie's saying. He did tell, they said, well, did you touch this girl in a sexual manner did you kiss her did you have sex with her he said I kissed her on the head one time oh and they said do that they said why would you do that exactly is what they said and he said that he does it to all the neighborhood children quote as a friendly gesture oh sir I'll tell you what all crackheads within a
Starting point is 00:57:47 fucking sound of my voice right now please don't kiss my or jimmy's children on the forehead we beg you and especially not all the children that you live around no but definitely stay away from mine i'll kill you for that shit what the fuck yeah? Yeah, we'll fight. We will be going to fight for that. I'll certainly go, what'd you do that for? Yeah, why'd you do that? He denies entering the girls home at all to the newspaper. When the newspaper talked to him, he said, I never went in there. But his, his statement to the police says they were jumping on the bed, jumping on the bed, kissing, I'm kissing foreheads, that's all I'm doing here. He told the newspaper that the girl's mother is a friend to whom he gives money.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I give her money sometimes, that's all it is. Where do you get money, Eddie? From where? She didn't know that I'm lay-awaying her children. Not at all, it was for later. She didn't know I was purchasing her daughter for later activities. Then he says, and this is the fucking wildest shit ever, I love them kids like my own.
Starting point is 00:58:51 I'm no pervert. I'm no pervert. I'm a loving father. I don't go over there unless her mother is there and then I'll go to get something to eat. Wow. Yeah. I'll go to get something to eat. Wow. Yeah. I'll go to get something to eat. Okay. Okay. Since 1989,
Starting point is 00:59:08 his convictions are burglary, battery, robbery, marijuana possession, possession of drug paraphernalia, resisting arrest, battery of law enforcement, resisting and obstructing officers with and without violence. This is all six years. This is in a yeah, I think he in this period. He's a fucking mess. So now August 10th 2006, he's still in jail and he's denied bail and they do not let him represent himself, which is nice. Can't do it. And then he's also got the other sexual assault charges. Right. This is this is just the tip of the iceberg, babe. There's so much. So by August 11th, this is three days after this attack took place, there's an article saying, the other Eddie Johnson wants his reputation back. Will the real Eddie Johnson please stand up?
Starting point is 00:59:59 Oh my fucking God. He wants his dignity, his reputation, he wants this guy to just never exist. And they have a picture of the two of them next to each other here, which doesn't help any, that's not helping, saying here's the two of them next to each other. Don't put my face in the paper.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Now it looks like we're in cahoots now. You put us, our pictures a quarter inch apart. Now it looks like we tag teamed an eight year old, you fucking jerks. Eiffel towered a child now, this looks like. So this is, the article says, quote, Eddie Johnson, good Eddie Johnson, there's good Eddie and bad Eddie,
Starting point is 01:00:32 good Eddie Johnson is still getting over what he calls the worst day of his life. He did nothing to anybody, by the way. It gets worse, because I didn't know his background. He scratched his way out of the Cabrini Green housing project in Chicago. This poor bastard fashioned a long and successful NBA career, turned that into an opportunity on TV and built a reputation as an all-around good guy who loves to work with kids. Oh, this poor bastard. Shit. It couldn't get any worse.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Not now he doesn't. His worst scrape with the law involved a couple of traffic tickets. Now he's dealing with a case of mistaken identity that shocked him and his friends and he fears may have permanently sullied his reputation. Probably, yeah. They said, well, how does it feel? And he said, devastating, hard to explain. He said Eddie Johnson was mistaken in some media reports, including in his home fucking town of Chicago,
Starting point is 01:01:28 for another Eddie Johnson. Didn't Skip Bayless do this? I don't know if he was one of the ones who did it. No, he did a different mistake. The Eddie Johnson, who had nothing to do with that accusation, is a former Illinois star who went on to a 17-year career, including a three-year stay with the Seattle Super Sox. That's the problem.
Starting point is 01:01:46 The same team. And they came in the league three years apart. God damn it. He was drafted in 81, and Fast Eddie was drafted in 78, or whatever. God, fuck. They both played for the Sonics. That's fucking rough.
Starting point is 01:01:59 They said, interestingly, Eddie Johnson from Florida also played with the Sonics. When some media reports about the alleged crime included the Illinois Eddie Johnson's bio information and a photo linked on the internet, his phone started ringing. I bet it did. You a child rapist? What the fuck, bro? The bummer is like he was another one of those just like in the Folkest. He wasn't like a superstar. He wasn't an all-star. No.
Starting point is 01:02:27 It's not like there was two Troy Aitmans and one of them's a rapist. This is just another two. His name is wallpaper too. It's nothing that sticks in anybody's mind. It's Eddie Johnson. Right. It's as if there was two Wes Welkers. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:40 It's not two Magic Johnsons. It's Eddie Johnson. You know what I'm saying? So he said, the thing that disappointed me the most is some people who were overzealous enough to think it was me and attack me with ferocity, I can't comprehend. Oh, he better be thankful there was no Twitter.
Starting point is 01:02:56 Fuck yeah, oh man. Well, this is 2000, yeah, 2008, so it's 2006. It's closed. It's not, it's, oh yeah, it's just still MySpace. Just missed it, yeah. He said, that's the part that didn't allow me to sleep last night. That's the part that forced me to reach out
Starting point is 01:03:10 to as many people as I could and say, shame on you, that's not me. This is Edward Arnett Johnson. Now, our guy's Eddie Lee Johnson. They said that he does color commentary, he's doing great. He said, he called me really, this is Charles Barkley, he called me really upset about it.
Starting point is 01:03:31 He said, and Eddie said, it's a tough situ, or this is Charles about Eddie, it's a tough situation. He was on vacation in Hawaii. He didn't know this was even going on. He gets back and the first thing he knows, he's dealing with this. He's such a good dude, it's an unfortunate situation. You guys are riding a horse on a beach.
Starting point is 01:03:49 He's fucking, oh my god, he's eating pork in the sand. He's teeing off on a golf course while this guy's raving a child and then he's home. Comes home with a lei around his neck and people are like, yeah, I got lei, do ya? You scumbag, you fucking piece of shit. He's like what did I do? The enticer with the purple flowers you piece of garbage so what I didn't like poi. I don't understand what the problem is What's the issue? Charles Barkley said I feel bad for Eddie Johnson of Phoenix And I feel really badly for Eddie Johnson of Auburn because he never got his life together
Starting point is 01:04:23 And they both went to Auburn. So they said when Eddie Johnson of Phoenix was still playing and Eddie Johnson of Auburn was retired and getting into frequent trouble with the law, there was little problem differentiating the two because one was a player and one wasn't. Now they're both retired. He said there'd be a news story about Eddie Johnson, but they knew it wasn't me because I was on the court and in the box score. So you know, it wasn't me. I was on the court and in the box score so you know it wasn't me I was playing that night now they're both out of the game and especially in the offseason he said it's fuck he said he has to his goal now for the next several days is to get the word out about it's
Starting point is 01:04:57 not me the word out the word he said quote my name is everything I tell everybody I don't fuck kids. I'm not a kid fucker. It's the worst thing ever. He said, I don't fault the other Eddie Johnson for having that name. I'd fault him for fucking kids. Yeah, I'd fault him for what he does.
Starting point is 01:05:15 Anybody famous with my name, I'm gonna be like, keep your fucking Ps and Qs straight, asshole. Thank fuck there's no more James Petragallo's than anybody, my father, but I don't think he's planning on any public endeavors in the near future. I'm the only Jimmy Wissman, thank fuck, because I don't need. We found more Jimmy Wissman, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:05:32 With a Y. With a Y. We found others though. There's no Jimmy with an IE, not one. Leave me some time, I'll find it. That there is. He said, I don't fault the other Eddie Johnson for having that name. I think it's a great name.
Starting point is 01:05:49 It used to be. I think it's a great name. He just doesn't happen to be a great guy. No, he's not. No, he doesn't. So November 19th, 2006, Eddie's sitting in jail and Doing his thing in jail. They said no longer number three for the Atlanta Hawks. He's now inmate number zero zero zero 9158 every newspaper Yeah, that we've ever had loves to loves to do that as a habitual felon He faces life in prison if convicted of charge on charges He sexually assaulted an 8 year
Starting point is 01:06:25 old girl and a 25 year old woman in separate incidents. He's facing life? Life, yeah. Wow. Eddie said, quote, I don't blame anybody for what happened to me but myself. Good. Good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:39 Well done. You don't blame a fucking 8 year old for you raping her weird? Or a 6 year old brother for letting you in? Yeah, I mean he locked the door. He said, it's not the money. Oh, he said, I could make excuses, but there's no excuse. It's not the money. People fail to understand when you're involved with the drug culture, it's the
Starting point is 01:06:56 hustle that goes along with it. Fucking kids is nowhere part of that. Stealing VCRs, all that other shit. I can go, okay, it's drugs and we can figure it out. But once you're molesting children, there's no... You don't understand. Yeah. You don't get the lifestyle, man. The hustle, man. It'll force you right into her arms.
Starting point is 01:07:16 You know what Omar says, it's all in the game, right? I think that's what he was talking about, right? It pushes you right into an eight-year-old's arms. That's how it happens happens man. They talk about him being in a faded red and white jail jumpsuit that hangs loosely. Yeah, that somebody else used to wear. It's an extra large and he weighs a hundred and fucking sixty pounds. They say he acknowledges his long rap sheet and persistent drug problems but denies ever stealing anything despite frequent accusations and being chased down
Starting point is 01:07:46 and tackled by a target security guard. What the fuck are you talking about? He also vigorously denies doing anything inappropriate with the eight-year-old girl and the woman from two days earlier. Really? Denies it? Nope. He said didn't do it at all.
Starting point is 01:08:00 I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about. That's fucked up. He's going to make that eight-year-old go to the, sit on the stand and tell a court what he did? That's fucked up, man. They'll probably, they do her in chambers, usually. They don't make children of that age
Starting point is 01:08:15 do it in an open court. I hope so, Jesus. That age, they take their testimony on camera. Videotape it, yeah. In chambers, and then they play it for the jury. That's easy. They keep it from public. Still she has to say it.
Starting point is 01:08:28 She has to say it in front of a judge and lawyers. These are grownups who aren't their mom. You know what I mean? That's fucking disturbing. So Johnson spent, this is from this article, Johnson spent much of the money he made in the NBA, but saves saved some and still receives deferred payments from what from what so you steal a VCR yeah to sell for $20 on the street for crack and then you're like my dividends haven't come in this month yet are you out of your fucking mind
Starting point is 01:08:58 still waiting on my paycheck yeah I can't pay this $4000 bail what yeah no crack heads have stocks ever left They sold those a long fucking time ago. They don't even have their wedding ring. Never mind stocks So he did they said well, what do you get how much and he declined to provide details? No, you know how that is but wrote in a court affidavit of an indigent status that he made $300 a week. So that's what he's getting, $1,200 a month. That ain't gonna do it. He's written his own court motions to dismiss or reduce his bond and persistently tries
Starting point is 01:09:38 to represent himself despite having obviously no legal background other than being in a courtroom a hundred times previously. He's got a lot of legal background other than being in a courtroom a hundred times previously. He's got a lot of legal background. He's like, I've seen defense attorneys operate more than anybody, honestly. I'm an expert at this. I know how to file shit. He is a few dozen credentials short of his college degree. A few dozen, by the way, credits.
Starting point is 01:09:59 Yeah, a few dozen credits short of a college degree and a bar exam short of being a lawyer. He had a whole bar exam here. He does say that all three of his kids have graduated from college. I don't know if that's true or not. But then he says, and he loves saying this phrase, I'm not an unintelligent. He loves saying that. He says, I'm not an unintelligent black man. I'm an intelligent black man. I paid my dues for what I've done previously He says drugs drove him to his previous misdeeds and now he's happy that he's gotten past his addiction. He's good now Now that he's sitting in jail and can't get crack. He's happy that he's overcoming Is he hmm trying to garner sympathy with the black man part because Because I've never heard anybody say, I'm not a dumb white guy.
Starting point is 01:10:46 I'm a smart white guy. I'm a smart white guy. What are you doing? Why are you bringing that into it? Or the opposite. They do it like as a joke, like I'm just a dumb white boy. I don't know shit about nothing. Yeah, I've heard that.
Starting point is 01:10:56 Yeah, I've heard that before. Johnson says he doesn't keep up with anyone from the league. Yeah, who's going to talk to you? Right. What are you up to? Well, I don't know. I'm on vacation with my family oh I just stole a VCR and sold it for $20 to smoke crack tonight that's they're into different things here I'm on my way to a date oh yeah oh weird I don't know we're gonna
Starting point is 01:11:16 watch some wah-wah-wah I was gonna say I don't know I'll open the door and find out I'll start opening a port apartment doors and find out. I'll start opening apartment doors and find out. They said in jail though he's still known as Fast Eddie. He said he reads and writes and plays a lot of basketball and he's facing life in prison. So they said that life in prison would make this his permanent home court. Jail. So October 29th, 2008 he's on trial for this, the sexual assault here. On the woman or the child? Both. Well he faces sexual battery on a person under 12, lewd and lascivious molestation. Jesus, that could, if you couldn't make the word molestation worse, they figured out a way. And lewd and lascivious in front of it on charges of molestation of a person under 12 and burglary
Starting point is 01:12:05 of a dwelling with battery. A conviction for any of these crimes could land him in prison for life because he's a habitual. So I think they're doing those two things separately. Prosecutors allege that he did this on October 8th. The girl was 10 now, testified that Johnson entered through the unlocked door where she and her three younger brothers were home alone watching television. And yeah, they said a neighbor that had been tasked with babysitting the kids had stepped outside for a minute. So this person said I got to go run over here for five minutes. And this guy said, oh, cool and went right in there. My God. That's how much of a fucking predator
Starting point is 01:12:45 He is that he was waiting for people to leave He was probably sitting in the field watching doors for people to leave so you break into people's houses because that's what he does He breaks into people's shit So the girl told the assistant state's attorney on direct examination that Johnson followed her to the bedroom Locked the door then pushed a dresser in front of the door to block any entry by any of the other children. He barricaded this poor child in the room. Oh man, yeah, he took her pants off, took his pants off, told her not to tell anybody.
Starting point is 01:13:16 I won't get into the details of that. That's fucking gross and I don't need it. So I don't need nightmares tonight. She then told the court that after they left the bedroom, Johnson began kissing her on the arms and neck in view of her brothers. The girl's mother testified that she arrived home to find her daughter curled up in a ball
Starting point is 01:13:36 and crying in her brother's room. You know, she was just attacked by a fucking monster. The mother called the police, the officers arrested him about a block away from the apartment complex. Oh my God. The court appointed lawyer for Eddie, because he can't represent himself, told the jurors in his opening statement
Starting point is 01:13:55 that Johnson was this family's benefactor, gave them money all the time, and a quote, big brother figure to the victim victims older brother Who thought the lawyer was supposed to make it better that sounds worse right? Just gonna say that sounds worse than a stranger. No, this is someone she trusts. It's it's better. It's fine You know said he groomed her This will only destroy her trust of anybody for the rest of her life, rather than just
Starting point is 01:14:26 being afraid of strangers. This will destroy friends, family, intimate relationships of any kind. Really fuck them up good, we feel like. This is perfect. Especially of any guy. Men and her life, it's over for them. That's what I mean. I fucked it all up.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Trusting nobody. Not going to trust anybody. Fucking Jesus Christ. Even her family, she's not gonna trust here. So yeah, Benefactor Big Brother also told the jury that the accusations were plainly false and said that no DNA or other physical evidence links Eddie to any sexual act.
Starting point is 01:15:00 What? Hmm. That was there. I didn't do it because there's no you have no DNA What about four kid they just made it up? Let's make up Hey four kids that don't know anything about sex because they're under eight Let's make up that that some guy from the neighborhood came in that we see and just raped us That's normal right the kids do that all the time. Yeah, so Johnson sat there and
Starting point is 01:15:22 Kids do that all the time. So Johnson sat there and they said that there was a brief hiccup in the proceedings when the victim's mother entered the courtroom and took the stand, two female jurors immediately raised their hands to say, I know her. Oh no. Not good, can't have that. No.
Starting point is 01:15:40 So one juror said that she told the judge that she lives across the street from her and Knows the mother to have a bad drug habit because the juror knows this from her own past drug use I have a drug problem. I used to do drugs with her and that we're all crackheads in the same neighborhood Yeah, so I mean that is a jury of your peers. I will say that. That's as clear as it gets. That's a jury, yeah. They're from the block and they do the same thing.
Starting point is 01:16:09 No one gets it more than them, but I don't think you do. Everybody from around the way. Is there nobody else that'll be a juror? What's going on? How do they do this? How about this? You can't find 12 fucking people in the state of Florida that don't have a crack problem to be on a fucking jury.
Starting point is 01:16:25 That's where we're at now, Florida. You don't have 12 clean people in the state of Florida that don't have a crack problem to be on a fucking jury That's where we're at now, Florida. You don't have 12 clean people in the whole state Holy shit that is Amazing not only that she's from the same lives across the street for the cross the street Did drugs with Eddie too? Yeah, I've seen Eddie around the neighborhood, too Did they just go to a crack party and just be like can all of you Please be on a jury All of anybody a guys, you know, we'll do tomorrow that you know what they pay 12 bucks a day anybody up for it Yeah
Starting point is 01:16:54 Two days and you'll get a rock. Oh, so the prosecutor requests to strike that juror and replace her with an alternate Obviously can't have a neighborhood crackhead on the journal. The judge says, no, she's good, keep her. That'll do. That'll do. No, she's all right. I don't want to get into any of this. Sounds like she's familiar. She knows.
Starting point is 01:17:12 She knows what's up. That's insane. They talk about in court, obviously, his extensive criminal record. And he's been arrested, they said, since he's retired and moved back to Ocala, he's been arrested almost 30 times in Marion County. Christ! 30! Think about that. 30! 30! Do you know I can get gather most of my friends and some of them are shitheads and I can't gather 30 arrests between them. 30 is a lot of arrests.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Wow. Man. He had recently been released from prison before this, before these charges happened. So yeah, he's still in court here. Then the jury comes in, including fucking crackhead number four over here. And he is the two days of testimony and argument. He goes to the jury at 2.15 in the afternoon. By 3.45 they have a verdict. Really? Yeah, they believe this kid, I think, is what's going on.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Or they don't at all believe the kid. You said like an hour and a half, right? An hour and a half. That's fast. Fast. Real fast, fast like Eddie on Coke. Right now? Right fucking now. An hour and a half is the forms to fill out. That's Eddie on Coke. Right now. Right fucking now.
Starting point is 01:18:27 An hour and a half is the forms to fill out. That's all it is. That's so quick. That's so quick. One vote and filling out the forms. So he is at the defense table and they came out and said, guilty of all this shit. Yeah. Fucking guilty.
Starting point is 01:18:43 So in closing arguments, the lawyers urged the jurors to use their common sense and conclude both lawyers said that use your common sense and they did. So the assistant state attorney said, imagine how painful it would be to cause this and held up. Oh my God. Jesus H Christ. This is we definitely didn't talk about this on the first run through this. So the prosecutor held up to the jury and this is right before, this is why I think deliberations were so quick, a photograph of the eight year old girl's swollen genital area taken during a medical examination several days after the rape.
Starting point is 01:19:21 What? I'm sorry. Serving on a jury is one thing. I will serve. I'll do whatever I got to do. But I'm not looking at pictures of eight-year-old girls fucking genitalia. No. Of any kind.
Starting point is 01:19:32 Never mind swollen and medical. Especially battered. Yeah. Oh my God. How fucking horrifying. I would have left. I'm sorry. I'm done.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I'm sorry. You can't make me look at this. You can't. You can just show it. You should't make me look at this. You can't. You can just show it. You should be arrested for showing me that. Some doctor went, got down and took a picture of it. That's illegal. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:19:53 Destroy that photo right now. Fuck yeah. That's somewhere in files somewhere. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Jesus. I'm disgusted. So then it's-
Starting point is 01:20:01 Even medical science reasons. No. No. Don't take- I don't want- Look at it. Des Even medical science reasons. No, don't take- No, I don't want, there's no reason. Look at it, describe it to us. Don't take a picture of it. We don't need to have pictures of eight-year-old girls' genitalia ever.
Starting point is 01:20:13 There's no reason for it. We don't need to waste Kodak film on that, stop it. No, that is gross. They could have even said, we would have pictures, but that would be super weird to take pictures of an eight-year-old's genitalia, right? And the jury would be nodding, like, yeah, totally. That would be super fucking weird.
Starting point is 01:20:25 Please don't show us that. We'd love to show you the damage, but we felt that was above and beyond our scope with the camera. And if you gave the jury like a vote, can we just stipulate there's a picture here? They go, yeah, let's just say it. There's a picture.
Starting point is 01:20:39 We get it. You have a picture. We believe you. Don't you dare. If you don't believe it, we'll show you the picture. I believe it. I fucking believe it, okay? Put it down, please.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Put it back in the folder. It would be weird for us to show that, right? Right? Wouldn't that be weird? And the jurors would be like, yes. Very thankfully you didn't show us that. And I don't even know if you're Eddie Johnson's attorney, who would you even choose? Because there's normally like strategies of who you choose for a juror yeah who would you even look for no can we can we go to death row and
Starting point is 01:21:14 find child rapists I mean yeah who are you looking you don't want women on the jury oh you don't want men either you don't want the man when I fucking beat us into death probably. Yeah, you want people that hate children. Yeah, maybe like an old person who has been bothered by children for years and hates them. That's the only thing. Or a guy that only has nieces and nephews
Starting point is 01:21:36 and dreads the day his family calls him to ask to babysit. Yeah. That guy. But even still, he has no sexual attraction to these kids. And he's like, if somebody raped one of these kids, I'd kill him. That's what the guy would say, you know what I mean? It's hard. So the prosecutor holds up the picture, makes the jurors look at it, and points to Eddie
Starting point is 01:21:55 Johnson and says, it was force caused by that man. God damn it. He did this. He's lucky the jurors found him guilty and didn't lynch him right there in the fucking room and start tearing him limb from limb apart, just fucking ripping him. How do you not want to tar and feather that man? That's what I mean, ripping his arms off and beating them with him. That's just, what a monster.
Starting point is 01:22:16 So the defense attorney said there's not sufficient evidence to convict him of these crimes. He said, this is a case where physical evidence should exist, pointing out the lack of DNA evidence in the girl's bedroom where this took place. So he said, this is ridiculous. No, this never happened. And apparently, yeah. So here comes sentencing, comes around, and oh boy here we go, you sir may fuck off mandatory life sentence without
Starting point is 01:22:53 found as a habitual offender, life without fuck off Eddie Johnson wow 51 in jail for the rest of his fucking life played for the sonics played for the sonics now fucking life. Played for the Sonics. Played for the Sonics. 51. 50 fucking 1. Oh my god, he has so much time to go. He has so much time.
Starting point is 01:23:11 He's so fucked. And now he's sitting in, as they described, a spiritless gray cell. Right. That's what he gets to sit in from now on. I'm gonna soul him there. Nothing, nothing. I mean, it was spiritless.
Starting point is 01:23:23 But, you know, Eddie's not used to that. No. And he's, Eddie's used to, you know, he said you like the fancy life they talked about. He liked expensive dinners. He liked nice furniture. He liked things like that. He likes his environment to have some spirit. Sure. So he calls the only person that can help him in this situation. It's Dexter Manley, interior designer from New York City. And he says, how is it you've come to arrive here? Holy fucking shit, man. Like you are, you're white trash, sir.
Starting point is 01:24:00 I'm sorry. This is the trashiest thing you've ever done. I've never heard of trash like this. You know these people and you did it? Like's it's bad. If you like you didn't know them That's like oh a stranger and you're raping. Oh gross. This is like extra gross this is that Let me in there Vince Vince. I'm telling you you don't want this one Vince. No Vince. He's gross. He's gross He's all cracky too. He has no like
Starting point is 01:24:24 No, Vince is gross. He's gross. He's all cracky too. He has no like In overalls not good. I want to see him on him tell him to take his Vince. I'm telling you Vince It's enough. It's a do you know what he did? Hold on Eddie you stay here one second. I'm gonna go I gotta talk to Vince Jesus Christ, oh my never mind I Poop on people and that's disgusting. I can't I'm out. I'm out. Never mind me too. I'm not enjoy your spiritless Grayness here that he was taking his pants off. He's like, oh shit. I'm gonna get ready Poof and he's gone, you know, you boas and feathers he's gone. And Eddie's very confused and he's going to remain confused. Not as confused though as these people that we're
Starting point is 01:25:15 about to talk about, these Eddie Johnsons. One, and we talked about him on the first one, Eddie Johnson was a linebacker for the Cleveland Browns. So he played for a Cleveland team, which is not good. And he is a member, he played from 81 to 90. Yeah, he was a linebacker, and he's a member of the Cleveland Browns Legends ring. Really? Yeah, so he's like, his name's up. One of their favorites, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:39 His name's up at the stadium somewhere. Jim Brown. Holy shit. Eddie J. Johnson there, that's the, I believe that's the linebacker Jim Brown. Holy shit. Eddie J. Johnson there. That's the, I believe that's the linebacker. Yeah, for Cleveland and he played for Louisville. He was known as the assassin during his time in there, which is better than being known as the child rapist.
Starting point is 01:25:57 The rapist. Much fucking better. Crack headed child rapist. Crack headed child rapist. He was, he did have problems of himself though, his own. He was sentenced to 12 months of probation and 200 hours of community service in 1995 for harboring his half brother who was a fugitive felon. But I mean, you know, that's, I would harbor my brother too.
Starting point is 01:26:19 That's your brother. Yeah, you got to harbor family. That's how it works. Also Eddie Johnson, vice president of customer experience, vice president of customer support, vice president of operations for looks like the Zero Fox Company. I don't know what that is. No idea. He went to the University of Maryland, Baltimore, that guy.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Also Eddie Johnson, owner of Life Tech for You. Some other guy here in Dallas, Texas. Eddie Johnson, investor, owner designer at Verdure Watches, applied jewelry professional in New York City. My God. Then, fuck me, here's an article about Cindy Holman to marry Eddie Johnson. Some poor guy who's getting married. Cindy, don't do it. Cindy,man to marry Eddie Johnson. Some poor guy is getting married. Don't do it.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Cindy, please stop Cindy. He's some blonde guy too. Then here is a October from October 1987, any Eddie Johnson, a triple murderer. Oh shit, that poor bastard. Aransas Pass here. Eddie James Johnson charged with capital murder in connection with the triple slaying,
Starting point is 01:27:27 will remain in jail without bond. Let's hope so. Holy fucking shit. Yeah, he shot, let's see, oh, shot a 10-year-old. That's nice. So he murdered a 10-year-old. At least he kept his dick in his pants, though. On his defense, dick firmly in his defense. Didn't hurt. Dick firmly in his pants.
Starting point is 01:27:47 Didn't give him lifelong trauma. Nope. I'd still rather have my kids around this guy probably. If given the choice, I'd rather be murdered than raped. I can't tell you. I can't side with it more. Especially as an eight-year-old, again with an adult. That's fucking crazy here.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Also here, Eddie Johnson who appears to be a musician because the American Polish Club in Florida has an Eddie Johnson playing music in multiple different nights. Old fashioned Sunday Polish family picnic, he's playing that. Several gigs the whole weekend. Several gigs here, absolutely absolutely also another one Lee's McCray head men's basketball coach
Starting point is 01:28:32 Keith Walker announced that freshman Eddie Johnson a former standout at Statesville High was recently named Bobcats player of the week Eddie T Johnson we'll talk about him for a second, a retired Chicago police officer, he was the 62nd superintendent of the Chicago Police Department from March 2016 until December 2019. There's a, we'll fight, I'll talk about that with you. Then there's also a soccer player named Eddie Johnson
Starting point is 01:29:03 who's a popular soccer player. And then of course, the most disgraced, poor, poor, poor, Eddie Johnson, the basketball player, who is four years younger than our Eddie. Oh, God, it's too much. It's too much. Drafted in 81, it's all right there. He was six man of the year in 89. Yeah, for the Sonics, right?
Starting point is 01:29:24 For, yes guess the Sonics I know 89 he was with the Suns. Yes. Oh six man of the year for the Suns there Unbelievable there. That's Eddie Arnett Johnson speaking of Eddie 2014 the other Eddie Johnson the good Eddie Eddie sues the Chicago Tribune in 2014. Really? This is eight years later. Yes, I guess identify to him the Tribune adapted the story from another story that had been published a day earlier by the Associated Press. That story titled Ex-NBA Star Johnson Accused in Sex Rap had a dateline of Ocala, Florida and was placed on the wire at 1142 p.m. It began with the lead paragraph,
Starting point is 01:30:08 former NBA All-Star Eddie Johnson has been arrested and charged with sexually assaulting an eight-year-old girl, authorities said Tuesday night. The 10-paragraph article noted Johnson had numerous prior convictions. The 10th and final paragraph indicated that Johnson, a 6'2 guard from Auburn University, played in the NBA from 77-87 with all the teams, represented the Hawks in the All-Star game, all that. The editors on duty that night at the Tribune scanned the first few paragraphs of the story. They didn't read till the end.
Starting point is 01:30:41 And since they're in Chicago, that's the first Eddie Johnson that popped up in their mind was the one that's from here. So they read the first few paragraphs and adapted the piece for its daily feature entitled Press Box, whereby the editors on duty would review incoming articles and digest them into short news reports to summarize news stories of note. The deadline for closing the print edition was 1230 a.m.,
Starting point is 01:31:07 so there wasn't a lot of time, it's less than an hour. Oh, they got an hour, yep. One of the editor's colleagues saw the AP article and told one of the other writers that there was a story about Eddie Johnson and that Johnson played for the University of Illinois. Shapiro, the one guy, clicked on the link and read the first three or four paragraphs of
Starting point is 01:31:26 the story. Determined that the story was newsworthy, performed a cut and paste of the portion of the article he felt was pertinent. Jerk off. In this case, it's the first two paragraphs, which they talk about. That's the inverted pyramid is how they do their thing, basically. They start out, or the pyramid, yeah, inverted pyramid. basically they start out or the pyramid yeah inverted pyramid So you start out and then wrap it up and then wrap it up
Starting point is 01:31:48 Which is the most fucking annoying thing in the world and it's the laziest fucking journalism It's so you see that that oh am I interested in this article right the first paragraph, and then I'll read the details I get what they're doing, but it's it's fucking lazy fucking tell your story and especially it's lazy And it's annoying from our purposes because I have to move all this shit around to make it make sense in a chronological fashion. So it bothers the fuck out of me. God damn it. It's my, it's the bane of my existence.
Starting point is 01:32:13 I swear to Christ. Well, and it's, and it's human nature that, that makes them have to write that because we're lazy. It's not just them either. We're lazy and we're like, ah, this is boring. This is stupid. And we move on to the next article. Yeah. If it's not fucking,
Starting point is 01:32:26 if it doesn't grab the reader and they'll fucking walk away from it. We're giving you the meat in the first article. That doesn't grab you. Nothing. Well, you don't need to read everything to get to that. Well, this guy here, um, fuck man, Shapiro also drafted the caption former NBA, a lion eye star accused of sexual assault and addedhole. And added the word Illinois to the first paragraph of the article to make it local so people would be interested in it.
Starting point is 01:32:50 The editor was unaware that there were two Eddie Johnsons who played in the fucking NBA. One with a clean image and one with not. So Daniel McGrath, Associate Managing Editor for Sports, the top supervisor for the sports department stated this was typically all that was necessary and relevant for the purposes of adding a story to the press box section. McGrath explained that the AP stories typically follow the inverted pyramid or AP style where
Starting point is 01:33:17 all essential information is given, is contained within the first two or top two or three paragraphs. Given the volume of material that the wire editor must review This guy said that it was not always practical or possible to read the entire article. Well, you know what? Maybe you shouldn't this is why? So they said on the morning of August 9th McGrath identified the error in the press box section by reading the paper and by an email Sent to him from a reader. Yeah reading the paper and by an email sent to him from a reader. Yeah. So McGrath believed that there was an error
Starting point is 01:33:47 because the AP story was from Florida and that the Eddie Johnson he knew was from Illinois and lived in Phoenix, and he knew there was an age discrepancy. So he contacted the sports editor, asked him to check the story, and then they corrected it. They posted a correction. But that's like two days after the Chicago fucking Tribune
Starting point is 01:34:05 said you're a child rapist. Right. So McGrath took a call from Good Eddie Johnson's marketing representative, his PR person, and then from Eddie himself called. McGrath informed them that he was aware that the plaintiff was misidentified, Good Eddie, and that the Tribune was investigating the issue and determining the best steps to set the record straight and rectify it. McGrath apologized and informed Eddie that they were
Starting point is 01:34:33 heartsick over this very serious issue. So sorry we called you a child molester. So sorry we said you're the worst person alive. The next day they not only published a retraction and an apology, they entitled it An Apology to Chicago's Eddie Johnson, written by the editor himself. It's a 13 paragraph article prominently placed on page two of the sports section.
Starting point is 01:34:54 That's not good enough. Nope, front page, babe. Front page of news. We fucked up so, we called the guy a child rapist yesterday. Fix that shit. We understand if you never read our fucking newspaper ever again. Holy shit. Especially Eddie Johnson.
Starting point is 01:35:10 He's got beef. So they said also they highlighted his, good Eddie's, distinguished career, many charity and community accomplishments. They started the article by noting that, um, haste to make deadline is no excuse for putting incorrect information in a newspaper and included several facts that were tip-offs or red flags in the story that made the error even more embarrassing. They noted that it was Florida. They knew he lived in Phoenix.
Starting point is 01:35:35 It didn't make sense. So Eddie Johnson, good Eddie, testified he was on Hawaii, in Hawaii on vacation with his family when it was published, but he received several calls, emails, and complaints regarding it. And he said that he's long dealt with the issue, as the other Eddie Johnson has repeated troubles with the law, but never to this extent. He said, it's only been a nuisance. This is a hindrance.
Starting point is 01:35:57 They called me a crackhead, not a child rapist. That's fine. So as far as good Eddie was concerned, the damage was done. So he filed a libel complaint with three counts sounding in negligence, false light, and defamation. And on appeal, they ended up dismissing it. So Good Eddie appeals and argued that the circuit court erred in finding that he failed to present a genuine issue of material fact and argued that there's evidence of record from which a jury could find that the Tribune acted with actual malice and reckless disregard for the truth. I don't think actual malice
Starting point is 01:36:34 is true. I think reckless disregard is serious. You fucked up bad with somebody here. That's a lot. So they said actual malice is not demonstrated through a showing of ill will or malice or motivation simply for profits, but with a reckless disregard for truth that includes a high degree of awareness of probable falsity or that the defendant had serious doubts as to the truth of the statement. But they didn't have serious doubts. They just thought it was true. Anyway, so they said, the plaintiff failed to present clear and convincing evidence that the defendant's employees seriously doubted the truth of the article before it was true. Anyway, so they said the plaintiff failed to present clear and convincing evidence that
Starting point is 01:37:05 the defendant's employees seriously doubted the truth of the article before it was published. That's what I mean. I don't think they did either. I think they thought it was fucking true. So they said the tribune's malfeasance and nonfeasance do not rise to the level of malice necessary to create a genuine issue of material fact that would warrant reversal of emotion for summary judgment on a claim of defamatory damages. So if that this Eddie can't get more fucked over.
Starting point is 01:37:30 They didn't eat. They fucking dismissed it. They dismissed it. And then he appealed and they dismissed it again. Oh my God. Now let's talk about that other Eddie Johnson, Chicago Police Department. Yeah, the guy that was superintendent. Yeah. He had some issues is why he left. Oh, yeah, he only did it for three years. Yep, in 2024 a federal judge threw out a lawsuit that accused him of sexually assaulting a female officer. This name is a curse. It's fucking, yeah. Cynthia Donald had been a member of Eddie Johnson's security detail when she said that he assaulted her multiple times over several years.
Starting point is 01:38:09 The suit also alleges that Johnson suppressed evidence. They said, Eddie Johnson repeatedly abused and harassed me and made it clear I had to follow his orders, which included unwanted sexual activity in order to keep my job. The Chicago Police Department and City of Chicago need to be held accountable for what happened to me and what is likely happening to other female officers." Apparently this happened, I guess they said that he in 2019, I guess this is right before
Starting point is 01:38:35 he quit. The police supervisor Johnson here, the superintendent was found slumped over the wheel of his SUV and he later admitted to having drinks with this Donald earlier in the night. Yikes. So, not good. A federal judge tossed all claims in the case, citing the sexual relationship between Johnson and Donald was consensual. Explicit text messages, which showed Donald telling Johnson that she loved him, in addition
Starting point is 01:39:02 to photos, led to the decision. They said though Donald presented some evidence that could be construed as signals to Johnson that his conduct was unwelcome, it's overwhelmed by evidence to the contrary. Don't fuck your coworkers. Don't fuck your fucking subordinates especially. Yeah. Yeah. Christ almighty if you're both equal, whatever.
Starting point is 01:39:21 And that's how people meet for the most part. Don't fuck your subordinates. Don't fuck your coworkers. Most adults, before apps especially, they met people at work. Yeah, unless you work at a restaurant, don't fuck your coworkers. Yeah, yeah, if you work at a restaurant,
Starting point is 01:39:36 none of it matters anyway, just fuck each other. It's two in the morning, nobody cares. Nobody cares. So Donald told the judge she was intimidated by Johnson and sought to appease him to avoid harm and keep her job. Anyway, October 26th, 2020, Fast Eddie Johnson is dead. What? Bad Eddie is dead.
Starting point is 01:39:58 Bad Eddie is dead Ed now. Dead Eddie. We didn't talk about that because he wasn't dead yet. He wasn't dead yet. No, he was the first time Yep, he passed away his death was confirmed by the mortuary in Florida I guess is we have his corpse here. So we know he's dead. There he is. Yep So he is 65 years old. He'll be buried at the Wearsdale Community Cemetery. So back home there
Starting point is 01:40:23 So we don't get a cause of death on fat study. I assume it's sludge from, brain sludge from being pure evil, I assume is what they alive possibly. 67, 68? 65. 65, a life of coke. That's young in prison though. That is young, but you know, he can't have a, his body can't be in good shape
Starting point is 01:40:43 after doing drugs for that long. He only did 16 years on child rape. rape on child rape he got away with it. He snuck out through the through the back door you could say November 4th 2020 so this is directly after that here Which is fucking hilarious like the next week az central calm which is Arizona's yeah Yeah, it says even Channel 3's newspaper. Yeah. It says, even in death, Fast Eddie Johnson gets mixed up with Our Eddie Johnson.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Oh, no! Who is fine. I thought he died, too. It's so funny. The best thing about basketball is the unexpected lessons it can teach. Like this one, slow down. It comes in the context of Fast Eddie Johnson getting mixed up
Starting point is 01:41:23 with Our Eddie Johnson again. Our Eddie Johnson played for the Suns and Sonics. Fast Eddie Johnson played for the Hawks and Sonics. They both could fill it up when they got cooking, but that's pretty much where it stops. Fast Eddie had some serious legal problems and died in prison last month. He was 65. Our Eddie's been doing great, hosting a radio show and calling it like he sees it on Sun's broadcast.
Starting point is 01:41:52 He was alive and well when someone sent him fast Eddie's obituary with our Eddie's photo. Oh, what? Yep. It was all over the place. People are so and the obituary people don't know shit about sports. So they just look up Eddie Johnson basketball and that's the first guy that comes up. He's more famous. He uses faggots on the obituary. So they just look up Eddie Johnson basketball and that's the first guy that comes up. He's more famous. Boom. You can imagine how that went over, but our Eddie handled it the way he usually handles things
Starting point is 01:42:13 smoothly, like a jump shot that floats through nothing but net. It was just a continuation of mix ups that come just because somebody has the same name, our Eddie Johnson said. Part of why it wasn't a big deal was because it wasn't the first time it happened a few years ago It happened when he actually got arrested our Eddie said they put out stories all over the country saying it was me I fucking sued for it as a matter of fact
Starting point is 01:42:38 I didn't see my face attached to a cop that fucking subordinates Because of his not just because of his name. It's just because of his name. Fuck you, that's not why. Stop being lazy. Yeah, you lazy fucks. That's what's going on. Because of a black guy that played basketball.
Starting point is 01:42:53 Say it, you racist fucks. Say it, say it. I think basketball's probably a big part of it. Yeah, it's the basketball. And the Sonics. They played for the same team. That hurts, man. They said, he didn't get mad.
Starting point is 01:43:04 He just took the issue to court to clear his name. Yeah. They said, he didn't get mad. He just took the issue to court to clear his name, but the lesson is clear for journalists and everybody else, but mostly journalists. Please do their research. Already Johnson said, that's the history major in me. I was graded to the max taking tests. You know if you take a history class, you're not taking too many multiple choice tests. You're writing essays. and so you learn.
Starting point is 01:43:26 You learn that you can't do silly stuff. You really have to be cognizant of your work, especially in a situation like that. Somebody's lost their life and now you're going to apply a picture. You have to make sure it's the right picture. I'm not an unintelligent man. I'm not an unintelligent black man. You said, I think our world right now, man, we're in such a hurry because of the competitiveness, especially in the news business where I want to get the story out first.
Starting point is 01:43:50 A lot of times they make mistakes. And the newspaper said, it's true, we do. Hell, I've made mistakes. There's no doubt about it. I'll make more. It's a part of life. Thank goodness that this instance wasn't a huge deal. No one in our Eddie's family saw the story and thought it was him. Hey are you dead dad? It's easier to know that he's dead than
Starting point is 01:44:11 arrested. When he shows up to his job they're like we thought you died. Oh shit what are you doing here? He reached out to the AP, the organization that made the error. It was the fucking Associated Press. It wasn't even like some local Florida newspaper. The Ocala Times can fuck that up. Is it always somebody that's got like a Pulitzer or something? Yeah, people that can do better. They have the resources to do better. And they said that Eddie asked them to correct it,
Starting point is 01:44:40 and they did. They said the story's being retransmitted to note that the photo of former Suns player Eddie Johnson that was erroneously linked to the story previously has been deleted. The photo should have been a former Hawks player Eddie Johnson. Holy shit. Our Eddie has kept things low key. He didn't even talk to his wife about it Tuesday night. He waited until it was resolved to tell her what happened. Hey baby, they think I'm dead. The unfortunate thing is that for those of us with common names, this sort of thing is bound to come up.
Starting point is 01:45:09 I've never had this problem once in my entire life. For me, there's Greg Moore who used to run the Denver Post, a Greg Moore who used to drive IndyCar, a Greg Moore who runs the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Conference, and a Greg Moore who played in the NHL. I've got a buddy in the news business named Stanley Roberts. He isn't the center who played at LSU. Heaven help the Ed Smiths of the world. Our Eddie doesn't have much advice for the matter.
Starting point is 01:45:36 It's hard, isn't it? Our Eddie Johnson said. For me, I don't see any way out of it. There are thousands of Eddie Johnsons. If you look up Eddie Johnson, you'll see thousands. Holy fuck is he right. Trust me. As both me and my cousin Ian can attest to,
Starting point is 01:45:50 fucking A is he right. He said, I have a think, I have a unique middle name. I'm not gonna use it. I don't know what my mom was thinking about when she gave me that middle name, so I'm not gonna use it. And then they said, it's our net. So he said, I'm not gonna use the paper. Said, we'll go ahead and put it in for you.
Starting point is 01:46:07 Don't worry. We got this, Eddie. Oh my god. Our Eddie Arnett Johnson, he asked his mother where she got it. She doesn't even know, our Eddie said. I was one of seven kids. She was probably like, I'm going to be creative for this one.
Starting point is 01:46:20 She had a right to be creative. She had to carry me. So anyway, Eddie said, it's a good and bad thing. He said, maybe there's a silver lining. He said, it's a right to be creative. She had to carry me. So anyway, Eddie said, it's a good and bad thing. He said, maybe there's a silver lining. He said, it's a good and bad thing. The bad thing is you don't want it to happen. The good thing is, well, they were wrong this time. Like I'm not dead. I guess. Yeah. That's the way I look at it. So can't get enough of fast Eddie. Well, you can get a fast Eddie Johnson signed. I don't want anything that his DNA is touched. No.
Starting point is 01:46:45 Nothing. I don't want his signature. Signed 1981-82 Tops card for $39.95. Then I want this one for the studio. The Fast Eddie Johnson 1978 basketball card. It's his rookie card. It's a 1978 rookie card. It's $2.99.
Starting point is 01:47:00 $2.99. You know, because he's a rapist and all. The very first card that's ever been made of him as a professional athlete, $2.99. I want it bad. I'm going to get that. You can't buy much for that anymore. No, you really can't. You can't even get Patreon, which is only $5 a month for us. Right. Yes, as we'll get into. If you like that story, all three parts of it, tell everyone about it. Get on whatever app you're on and tell the world about
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