Crime in Sports - #424 - Human Animal - Nicole Bass

Episode Date: September 3, 2024

This week, we delve into the story of a woman who started out as a successful bodybuilder, and transferred that into notoriety by her many, many appearances on The Howard Stern show. Wrestlin...g was the natural next step, and she was employed by WWE, ECW & others. A very naturally sweet person, she had some outbursts, apparently really enjoying biting police officers, pushing her husband around, and not understanding how check out counters work!Dream of being a frilly girly girl, get yourself big enough to have a DNA test to determine your gender on a national radio show, and choose an officers hand as a tastier snack than a sausage & pepper sandwich with Nicole Bass!!Check us out, every Tuesday!We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman Donate at... patreon.com/crimeinsports or with paypal.com using our email: crimeinsports@gmail.com Get all the CIS & STM merch at crimeinsports.threadless.com Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things CIS & STM!!  Contact us on... twitter.com/crimeinsports crimeinsports@gmail.com facebook.com/Crimeinsports instagram.com/smalltownmurderSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:04:26 We'll fuck your name all up. Don't worry about it. So that said, let's get into this right away. Let's get into it with Nicole Bass. We're going to talk about today. Now Nicole Bass was a, she's a female bodybuilder and wrestler and porn actress and ish. I got, I got her. I got stand-up set here. We can watch She is for lack of a better term a big bitch, let's just say that she is a fucking big woman, I mean
Starting point is 00:05:00 Not and this will come up a lot because the time she is out is the time when China was a huge deal, Joni Lohr, and she makes China look like a fucking nothing. She makes her look tiny. A little girl. A little girl. She looks like, yeah, a dainty little lady. And China was huge, but China's 5'10", which is very big for a woman, but Nicole is 6'2".
Starting point is 00:05:21 She's a fucking big, big one in And her shoulders, you could tell China, she's a big woman and they put her on a bunch of steroids and she looked even bigger. This girl is humongous no matter what. She's just a big person. Even if she wasn't a bodybuilder, she's huge. She's a big one, like her shoulders are wide. She's a big, big girl.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So she's born August 10th, 1964. And Nicole was, yeah. So in the 90s there she was elderly. She was over 30 when she was you know doing all this shit. She started wrestling at you know 33 or something which is extremely old to start wrestling. I mean that's you know that the guys only used to do that back in the day if they were like NFL players that finished up their NFL career They'd start wrestling but other than that, it's you know, they'd have to be athletes So she's born in Queens, New York, by the way, which explains her accent. Yeah, she's a New York girl
Starting point is 00:06:14 Like I said very very large here She's born in Queens. Like we said She it's interesting here. It's very hard to find like childhood details on her. I feel like something bad happened to her, it feels like, in her childhood, and she doesn't talk about it often, because you've seen her on Howard Stern how many times, and did she ever talk about her childhood?
Starting point is 00:06:39 I don't recall, I think I remember her saying she doesn't have a good relationship with her parents, but I don't remember anything abuse wise Something it seems like something had to happen to her or she the fact that she's very big is Plays a lot on her personality. Oh It because she feels very awkward and very out of place her whole life because she's always the biggest girl anybody's ever seen You know what I mean? And that's that that's a lot like now
Starting point is 00:07:06 We have like the WNBA you see girls that are 6'5 and stuff You didn't see women who were 6 foot 2 in 1980 You know just wasn't it was just that much and that's probably a portion I mean, it's probably all of why Howard Stern loved her because he loves the anomaly the weird thing Yeah, and that that's certainly it. I wish I was it. She's a spectacle is the way he would look at it. Yeah, yeah. My friend Richie would know all about everything that's probably happened to her.
Starting point is 00:07:30 I'll bet she's divulged a lot to him. Maybe, so she went to high school in Florida. So she, I guess, grew up down there. She went to Coral Gables High School and graduated there. And she got into bodybuilding first which makes sense because as big as she is it makes a lot of sense here. She was in, this was in Miami, she said when she first got into bodybuilding right after she graduated high school she felt like she was overweight, she weighed 165 pounds at the time which is not overweight for someone
Starting point is 00:08:02 who's 6 foot 2. That's a fair, that seems healthy. That's the way at five foot nine. Yeah, that's not overweight, but she didn't like the way she was proportioned or whatever the fuck here. So she decided she was going to develop and bodybuild. She saw women doing it and was like, Oh, look at that. I could shape this into whatever I want. So here's an article from 1997 from New York Newsday about her and her bodybuilding. Because she came on the scene hard too. I mean, she exploded onto the scene just because physically she's different than the other women. So this article says, quote, it was tough to be a tall, overweight and top heavy teenager. She began weight training
Starting point is 00:08:45 at age 19 after picking up a magazine and seeing bodybuilders such as Bev Francis, who was her coach at the time. And she says, this is Nicole talking, bodybuilding is the only sport I can do. Now she's legally blind in her left eye since birth, by the way. Really? Yes. So that's going to be difficult. When you get into wrestling, you need depth perception in wrestling. Sure.
Starting point is 00:09:10 So a lot of the times people will constantly say the phrase, she has two left feet in the ring. That's like every wrestler says that. Well, that's because she's one dimensional. She's not seeing in stereo. Exactly. Yeah. So you need depth perception.
Starting point is 00:09:23 If you're running at someone, you're going to hit them. You need it to be the exact right thing or else you're gonna look awkward. I don't think I knew that Yeah, so I didn't know that that doesn't help any yeah She said I would have been a great basketball or tennis star, but I can't see the ball. She's yeah I'm huge that would have been great, but I can't see shit She said it was women like Bev who opened the door for women like me back then so She said it was women like Bev who opened the door for women like me back then. So they go on to say in the article, back then was when big biceps were in, when Conan and Rambo were kings, when Jane Fonda workout tapes and share videos were chic.
Starting point is 00:09:58 It was this type of attention that Marie loved about the sport. It was so cool when I first started. This is her? Yes. I guess Marie is her real name, I first started. This is her? Yes. This is I guess Murray is her real name. I think is what we're going with. Yeah, I guess so. Because she said it was exciting for a woman to have muscles and walk out in the public and say they would and they would look and say, Oh my God, look at her. And I was excited that they recognize that I had biceps and that I was different and unique even if they thought I was a freak
Starting point is 00:10:26 Yeah, it was not. Oh my god. Look at her. It was Holy shit, it was people went holy shit. Yeah, and we'll talk to wrestlers later who would like Say like when you see this girl like seriously like don't stare type of thing They go they'd say don say don't sell it too hard because that's fucked up, you know what I mean? They'd go don't sell her because people would see her and go holy shit, what the fuck? We know she's shocking.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Yeah, especially a lot of those wrestlers in like ECW were 5'10, 5'11 and she's not only taller than them but bigger than them. It's like what the fuck? So she also, here's the thing though, she's really a girly girl type girl is the thing. Yeah? Yeah, everybody says that.
Starting point is 00:11:10 She would much rather have been a petite, feminine girly girl, but that's just not the cards she was dealt. So yeah, she liked to ride horses, which wow, okay. Horse, get under me! She's a fucking horse. I said get under me and horse I said get under me horse okay and now climb on top it now ride but it hurt I said go okay stop squeezing me with your thighs please she rides a horse and can touch the ground yeah she
Starting point is 00:11:39 is strong and she also likes to read She likes hairless cats as well. She's been good to that. She had three hairless cats. Really? Yeah, gross. Touching some cat's weird skin. So, no. I don't do that or those hairless dogs either.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Get some fucking fur like a normal dog. Hairless dogs though, their fur feels like a pig. Like it's like coarse and weird. Yeah, it's coarse and hairy. It's hair, it's weird. Hairless cats are, it's just, it's a raisin with eyes. It's so weird. It is.
Starting point is 00:12:13 Well, some hairless dogs are, they look like a nutsack hairless dog. They have like ball, they have ball hair on them. That's what they are. Like sparse ball hair. Yeah, sparse and coarse. Yeah, that's exactly what they are. That's what they are like sparse ball hair. Yeah sparse in court. Yeah, that's exactly what they are fucking disgusting So she ends up like I said getting into bodybuilding and this isn't like the 80s
Starting point is 00:12:33 She gets into bodybuilding So she's in the bodybuilding over ten years before anybody ever sees her in the you know Wrestling or that kind of world but Howard Stern because That's interesting, cause that's not really training for wrestling, cause that's just like breaking your body down for 10 years, really. But a lot of people too, there was a lot of guys back in the day that would start out as bodybuilders. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:12:56 There's like Ultimate Warrior, Sting, guys like that. Those, they were bodybuilders. They were, that's all they were into, but they got into wrestling cause it was something you could get paid to do for having a giant body, that's it. And then your body's just beat? Oh, beaten to shit, absolutely. Crushed, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:11 And that probably doesn't help her either because she's been bodybuilding and beating her body down for over 10 years when she starts, and she's in her mid-30s, so your body is not gonna take well to that, probably. Now run and bounce off those ropes. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Later on, she'll even win the NPC National Bodybuilding
Starting point is 00:13:29 Championship in 1997. So that's later. But still, in 1985, she gets married. And she marries a guy named Bob Fuchs. And her legal name will be Nicole Fuchs after that, F-U-C-H-S Fuchs. She marries this guy and this guy, there seems to be a large range of opinions on this guy from seem like a nice guy to he's a suitcase pimp. Those are the extremes of the spectrum of people's opinions
Starting point is 00:14:02 on this guy. What exactly is a suitcase pimp? We'll get to that. We will have a porn star explain to us what a suitcase pimp is later on. Jasmine St. Clair will explain to us what a suitcase pimp is later. Don't you worry about that. So 1985, she is second in the NPC Eastern USA Championships in the Heavyweight Division. The second the year after she won it or?
Starting point is 00:14:29 No, no. She wins it in 97. But in 85 she's second in the Heavyweight Division, the Eastern USA Championships of it. In 97 she won the National Championships of NPC. Then in 86 the IFBB, which is another bodybuilding federation, then the competition for Ms. International. So I guess that's like Ms. World type of deal. Ms. International. In the heavyweight division, she finished 16th there. So April 3rd, 1986, this is fun here.
Starting point is 00:15:05 This is an ad for the 1986 Tri-State Bodybuilding Competition Open. And there is all the shit, it's pre-judging show at two o'clock, so I guess you just show up and watch them. Teenage Men and Women, so teenage are common, men and women, so they have teenage kids too, at Martin Luther King Junior High School Auditorium, for some reason women, so they have teenage kids too, at Martin Luther King Jr. High School Auditorium, for some reason here.
Starting point is 00:15:28 They got that and... That's the Tri-State one? That's Connecticut, New York, New Jersey? This is in New York City, rear of Lincoln Center, 122 Amsterdam Avenue at 66th Street, and they have the word prejudging next to Martin Luther King's name, which is hilarious. Don't like that. And Nicole Bassett says, she's like the only person she's built.
Starting point is 00:15:48 Nicole Bassett says, Eastern American champion, the world's largest female bodybuilder, quote unquote, it says under it. So she's just like going to be on there as a spectacle for people to look to. She's a draw for the competition, apparently. And that's an interesting way of wording it too, because she's... How do you expect us not to look at somebody as a freak when you describe them literally as a freak?
Starting point is 00:16:14 As the world's largest female bodybuilder. Come stare at her. Pay a nickel. Come on. It's that sideshow kind of mentality. Two bits of gander. Come on in the tent. Look at her, ain't she? The world's largest. Ain't she huge? She'll beat you for a dollar. That's what it is, if you're into that.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yeah. She takes on all comers. So June 20th, 1986 is another Daily News advertisement and it's the 1986 New York City bodybuilding championships Dan Laurie presents and it says under him trainer of champions apparently and there's a picture of the guy that's like one of those check this out here look it's like one of those like 50s Jack LaLanne pictures where he's got his his hands on his hips and he's like look look at me, I'm doing the Superman strong pose.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Superman pose, that's what it is. That's exactly it. And then there's some other chick with a huge perm that's flexing. And this is at the High School of Fashion Industries on West 24th Street. And it says, meet Nicole Bass, female animal. Golly, guys, come on.
Starting point is 00:17:24 Female Animal? What the fuck does that mean? Meet Nicole Bess, Female Animal, learn about bodybuilding and fitness. Tickets are 10 and $15 for this, by the way, to watch people. To see a freak. To watch locals flex and take a gander at a freak.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Now here she is, here's a picture of Nicole we will show you from 1986. Check her out. Wow. Yeah. Now here she is. Here's a picture of Nicole. We will show you from 1986. Check her out. Wow. Yeah. She's got a big perm too. She's got a big old blonde perm at this point because it's 1986. God, she's such a man. She's in mid-lift. She's lifting. This picture, she looks like a male bodybuilder with a silly wig on. That's what she looks like. She looks like a male bodybuilder with a silly wig on. That's what she looks like. She looks like a male bodybuilder dressing like the lead singer Twisted Sister. What was it? D Snider.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Yeah, D Snider. Yeah, she's got a little We're Not Gonna Take It in her there. So Nicole said women have to understand they can be in this sport and still be female. She's trying to say like, listen, I'm still feminine. Because that's the whole thing with her is she's not like, she's not mannish. She's, she wants to be very feminine, it's just people look at her and they go, holy shit bro, what's up with you? Nice guns dude, like they can't help it.
Starting point is 00:18:35 She always had big hair too. Oh yeah, yeah, big hair, big everything. So this article says, Nicole Bass is a six foot two, 190 pound bodybuilder who has 17 inch biceps and claims to be the biggest, heaviest, tallest and strongest women's bodybuilder ever to enter a sanctioned event. Bass will be one of the favorites in the heavyweight division of the 1986 Women's and Mixed Pairs Bodybuilding Championships Saturday at the James L. Knight Convention Center. And she says this, you know what, let's, let's give her an, in their own words, let's give her a voice. You sing it sister. What do you got to say?
Starting point is 00:19:15 She had a fun voice too. Oh, she does. You'll hear it later on the standup. In their own words, quote, I hate walking around with my veins all sticking out, but to be great in this sport, you have to be cut fine. She says I used to be all soft and mushy, but women have to understand that they can be in this sport and still be female. So she's like, I don't want to look like this, but this is the cards I was dealt. Right. So this is what I look like. She said Bass's obsession with bodybuilding began the day she walked in with South Miami Gym wanting to shed some of her fat-filled
Starting point is 00:19:49 165 pound body. Oh you Jesus Christ calm down Hunt fat-filled Okay, jump off a building I'm six for a hundred ninety 195 pounds. And I'm a pretty thin guy. You know what I mean? I haven't been called fat since I was 12. We'll put it that way. So for her to be two inches shorter and 30 pounds lighter and have boobs, she's probably not fat at all.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Just not muscular. She did have boobs. Oh yeah, well she got a boob job later too she says. Yeah, she got implants. But there were certainly boobs there. To begin with, yeah, that's what they say. She was top heavy. And so her fat-filled 165 pound body and quote, to meet some of the cute guys I always saw
Starting point is 00:20:38 going in there, she said too. She wanted to meet the guys. Her waist, now 26 inches, was close to 33 inches at the time and threatened to expand geometrically because of her addiction to ice cream. You fat bitch. Are you kidding me? She loves Agandas. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Being a non-athlete and self-described pig-out artist at the time, she said her future just looked rounder. She's just going gonna keep getting bigger. She said now it's just fish vitamins and vegetables and an occasional offseason pig out. She says quote I'm a genetic freak I don't need to take steroids or any kind of artificial crap. Yeah right. That's what they all said. Hulk Hogan was saying that too. Said Bass as she effortlessly curled 95 pound dumbbells at North Miami Superbodies gym. She's just rolling them up.
Starting point is 00:21:34 Yeah, I don't need steroids. Just twisting her wrist on it. Get the fuck out of here. Hold on. Let me, I've been growing balls. Let me tuck them. I don't need, I don't need testosterone. Wait a second on it. Get the fuck out of here. Hold on, I've been growing balls. Let me tuck them. I don't need testosterone. Wait a second. Wow.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I got these, I don't know what these are, but they hurt if you kick me and they're just dangling from my vagina at this point. If I sit on them, oh boy. Oh boy, I'll tell you what. She said, just give me my sushi and occasional ice cream and I'm happy. That's how she did that?
Starting point is 00:22:04 That's yeah. Jacked, ripped, veins popping out. Cut. Just give me some spicy tuna roll and a fucking and a Ben and Jerry's chunky monkey and boy I will rule the world. The fuck outta here.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Rocky Road and Sam and that's how I got here. I'm sure. That's hilarious. And we know too The fuck out of here Rocky Road and Sam and that's how I got here That's hilarious and then we know too back then all those guys were on massive amounts of steroids even When the wrestling Vince McMahon tried to start the WBC the world bodybuilding championships That was at the time all the steroid stuff was coming down on him So he went to the bodybuilding guys and was like, yeah, you guys gotta do this clean. And they were like, yeah, right. Anyway, hilarious. Sure, okay, we'll all be 210 pounds walking out there. That's not how this works.
Starting point is 00:22:53 Because peanut butter does that. No, people don't look like that normally. That's, people now too, it's so common for people to be on shit now. I'm shocked by it too, by the way. It's weird because for people to be on shit now. I'm shocked by it too like It's weird because normal ass dudes No, but like it's pretty much if you're 40 and a guy and you go to the doctor and you're just like I don't know I'm feeling like 40 and sluggish. Yeah, they'll give you HGH That's what they give you
Starting point is 00:23:19 Cuz I know guys that would do and they're just they're fucking ripped and it's like that's not natural That is that you're not supposed to look like that when you're 51. That's not how nature is made. It's just not how it works. Good for you to be doing it, but. I suppose. If you don't care at all about in 20 years,
Starting point is 00:23:37 the low sodium diet you're gonna be on so your heart doesn't explode. It can't be good. No. Nothing that can make you look like that when you're in your 50s is can be good for you It just can't be it's not great It's taking everything that you'll look like from that's anything positive from 40 to 90 and condensing it to five years Yeah, you get to look like those years for five years if you get if you get off of it
Starting point is 00:24:01 It's gonna look like somebody released a clothes pin in the back of you that made all your skin fall forward and flop because you're just going to be a mess. So, 1986 at the NPC National, she finishes eighth in the heavyweight division. 1987 at the IFBB North American Championships in the heavyweight division. They're all the heavyweight division, I don't need to say that. There's no like 300 pound chicks in another division. She's fourth in that one. 87 NPC USA championships.
Starting point is 00:24:32 She's seventh. The Northeastern States NPC in 1988. She is first in that, wins it all. I'm looking at a picture of her in 88, James. And that is fucking unbelievable., she looks like a skeleton or she looks like you know that the muscle diagram in your fucking It looks like that. It looks like there's just no skin on this unbelievable amount of muscle crazy action figure shit She looks wow. She looks like a human action figure like a human he man figure It's fucking silly bottom abs are just one giant ab. Yeah, she's jacked.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Wow, unbelievable. Obviously, not on anything though. All natural right there, baby. Well, the tilapia did this. What can I say? I love, love, love eel. I just love it. I love unagi.
Starting point is 00:25:21 It's all I can think about. Trout for breakfast, unagi for lunch. Yeah, and then I do a- Get myself a mahi at dinner. Yeah, a little salmon tuna in there. I love unagi, it's all I can think about. Trout for breakfast, unagi for lunch. Yeah, and then I do a- Get myself a mahi at dinner. Yeah, a little salmon tuna in there. Boy, I am set, ready to go. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:25:32 I wake up and this is what I look like, it's wild. Yeah, I eat a little bit of fish too. It's called cod battered in fucking beer. That's the only way I'm eating fish. She's not like, you're not a big fish guy. Not like that, jeez. 1989 NPC at the extravaganza, she finishes third. And then 1990 NPC nationals, she finishes second. So she's a big deal in this.
Starting point is 00:25:57 No matter whether she finishes first or seventh, she's the spectacle everybody talks about at the end. And from 87 to 91, she's just like a goddamn legend. She's everything to this. And people are probably wondering, why isn't she winning all these competitions? Because in bodybuilding, it's so strange. They get it down to, well, that person's tricep muscle
Starting point is 00:26:18 is slightly more sculpted than that person. It's not a matter of, holy shit, what the fuck? Which would be us. If you win, that's a matter of holy shit what the fuck. Which would be us. You win. That's a big bitch. Yeah, holy fuck. If I'm scared of you, you win. That's how it works. And I'm terrified of you. Somebody's calf muscle pops harder when they when they fucking flex their toes or whatever. That person wins for whatever reason. Yeah, and they don't have to look like that. That's why it's a difficult game. May 10th,
Starting point is 00:26:43 1991, there's an article here in the Daily Herald, it's an ad, for the grand opening of Vince's fitness center. Oh Vince, hey Vince, open up your fitness center will ya? This is, where the fuck, oh no, no, yeah it's Florida, it's gotta be Florida. No, it's gotta be Florida down here. Downtown Everett, where the fuck is Everett? I don't know. Washington?
Starting point is 00:27:06 I don't know. Who knows? Guest appearance, Nicole Bass flying in from New York, known as quote, the human animal. The human animal? I mean, humans are animals, by the way. All 100%. She's the human, she's just like, hello,
Starting point is 00:27:26 I'm a nice girl. Yeah, she's like, are there any horses? All right. She's the human animal. She's like, I'm looking for a book tonight because you know, when I'm done eating my sushi, I like to read. She's a human animal.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Pink shirt that says Everlast on it. She's reading Little Women, she's an animal. Look at her. Human animal. Oh man, says Nicole will be giving a seminar at 3 p.m. on bodybuilding, exercise, and nutrition for a stronger, healthier life. Well, that's, that's going to age poorly. Let me tell you. The stronger part's good. Yeah, that definitely. Four dollars to listen to her talk, by the way, Yeah, that definitely. Four dollars to listen to her talk, by the way, to go in there, which is a very strange five's too much, but three's not enough. Weird number to land on. That's like the most singles you can pay.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Yes. How many singles do I need to have here? You need to have five people with you to just be able to give them a 20, get it over with. Fucking ridiculous. So, 1991 IFBB North American Championships. She's fourth in the heavyweight division. She makes her acting debut here. And she will be, she'll do a lot of acting. Because if you need a giant woman, there's your giant woman, someone to go, holy shit, she's bigger than the guy, there's the guy.
Starting point is 00:28:42 She made appearances, and I don't know how the fuck she got into this, but she makes appearances on four different soap operas, which is the very last place I would expect to see her on, would be, if you said, what genre is she doing? I'd go, I don't know, like an action movie, nope, soap operas. Very little humor in those.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Very little humor. How can you possibly place her and just be like take her to dead series yeah unless she's playing a human animal so she made guest appearances on the bold and the beautiful on days of our lives also in 1991 then on general hospital oh general hospital and guiding light in 1992 as well before big before those are the ones I, if you said name, name fucking, I guess one life to live. Oh, you're missing all my children.
Starting point is 00:29:29 One life to live and all my children are the only ones, yeah. With the 80s ones that I remember being on TV when I was a kid. So Life Goes On is that one too? No, Life Goes On is with Corky. Oh. Life Goes On, it's so fun. Dude, three days ago or four days ago,
Starting point is 00:29:44 I had this conversation with Sarah because she didn't know who Corky was. Oh really? And I was like, Corky from Life Goes On, he's got Down syndrome and he was an actor. I thought Corky was dead for like 30 years. Corky's still alive. He's still going? Corky is fucking just thriving. I don't know about thriving. He's had Down syndrome for 50 years, but he's like 50 something years old. Yes. Oh my God. Yeah. I didn't know they lived that long. But he, it's so, I was like, you don't know who Corky is. Cause in the eighties or nineties even and even in the two that you could just say Corky and people knew what you meant.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah. I knew what it was. Yeah. Knew what fucking Corky was. But yeah, life goes on. That was a, he was on that. Which she But yeah, life goes on. He was on that. She was on Guiding Light? She was on Guiding Light, yes. Guiding Light, General Hospital, Bolden the Beautiful, and Days of Our Lives. Wow, all she misses is all my children, that's all. And One Life to Live, too, was the other one.
Starting point is 00:30:35 One Life to Live, there it is. Yeah, somebody in my family watched that. And for like a whole summer, me and my cousin Jesse watched that for some reason when we were children, small children, because we got into it. I don't know why. I got into GH when I was in my 20s. I got into GH.
Starting point is 00:30:50 See how I called General Hospital GH? I got into GH a bit. Oh. I like OLTL, but you were more into GH. So I get it. I was into into GH. So, I get it. I get it, you know what I'm saying? What about GL? Never got into that. No, just GH.
Starting point is 00:31:13 B-A-T-B? Nothing? There was a girl that I was into, she watched GH, so I watched it with her. Oh yeah, fuck it. It was stupid, but I watched it. It was stupid, but I watched it. It was stupid. I used to fight with my aunt when I was very little because she was a teenager when I was little and we used to fight over the TV because I wanted to watch Tom and Jerry and she wanted
Starting point is 00:31:33 to watch General Hospital. She wanted to watch GH when I was like four. I was very upset about that. 1993, NPC National. She's 10th in that one. Beginning in 1993 is when she starts making Howard Stern Show appearances. So Howard found her way before wrestling
Starting point is 00:31:57 and the whole mainstream world kind of found her. Howard was the one. I wonder if Howard saw her on one of those fucking days, cause he's home by then, you know Maybe maybe we're seeing her on it, but I sitting around somebody might have said have you seen the size of that one fucking chick? She's you know Queens and everything. Yeah, so who knows and yeah, she's left. She lives in New York though It's an easy easy guest here Apparently she took part as a contestant in third and Stern's 1993 pay-per-view TV event.
Starting point is 00:32:26 The Miss Howard Stern New Year's Eve pageant. Yeah, there you go. So this is what made her famous, honestly, if we're being honest. I mean, in the bodybuilding world, she was famous, but name me a big bodybuilder right now in the bodybuilding world. Nicole Bass.
Starting point is 00:32:41 Exactly, yeah. The gal? Forget it. All right, name me a bodybuilder who's active right now. Today? in the bodybuilding world. Nicole Bass. Exactly, yeah. The gal? Forget it. All right, name me a bodybuilder who's active right now. Today? No. Right now, as I mean.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Current, so I mean, if you're not in the bodybuilding world, you don't know who the fuck these people are, unless it's the 70s and we're talking about Schwarzenegger and Farigno and guys like that. But since the 70s, no one's given a shit about that or karate. It's just, they're both... The 70s was decades of fucking bodybuilding and karate and then everybody gave up on it. And the only guy that anybody knew in karate
Starting point is 00:33:12 was Daniel Aruzzo. They knew Daniel Aria after, well for us, because we were too young for Bruce Lee shit, because he was dead by the time we, but in the 70s everyone was super into Bruce Lee shit. Was he doing karate? Was that what that was called, Bruce Bruce Or was he doing who knows? He's kicking and punching
Starting point is 00:33:29 Being all Asian and shit. I don't know Being water and Asian he's he's an Asian guy that kicks. We'll call that karate. I have no fucking idea Yeah, especially in the 70s. No one knew the difference. They were like one knew. Yeah. It's an Asian fucking discipline, that's all. That's all. They eat rice and they use chopsticks to cut flies, it doesn't matter. Look at them. Who gives a shit? We have a lot of classic cars, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:33:56 If you wash one nice, you can have it. You can have it. But you have to wash it the correct way. And most importantly, you have to wax it the correct way. Fuck importantly you have to wax it the correct way fuck washing it You can't just leave it on so you got to wax it off at that point right? Yeah goes one way goes the other Yeah, it's been a cruel summer Jimmy It's been a cruel cruel summer So anyway this she gets famous off of this. This is I believe the reason why like a
Starting point is 00:34:30 especially an ECW would have taken her on. Sure. Is because Paul Heyman's a New Yorker and grew up in New York, lived in New York the entire time, probably still does. Sure. Yeah. Yes. Listen to plenty of Howard Stern. So that's probably where that came from. She started appearing, apparently she was fitting right in with the old Wack Pack there. Yes, she was. Yeah, Howard's group, we got a, how's this guy? We got like a midget, we got a guy with no face,
Starting point is 00:34:59 let's bring a giant broad in, we'll get her, the human animal, anybody else? We got the other freaks out there. And human animal is the nicest nickname of anybody in Howard's terms, in fact. They get really terrible things. Insulting nicknames. They're right on the nose.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Yeah, and the thing is, and you would know this from her appearances, she will do anything for a laugh. She learned a long time ago, it's easier to make yourself the butt of the joke than to let someone else do it for a laugh. She learned a long time ago, it's easier to make yourself the butt of the joke than to let someone else do it for you. So she, very self-deprecating person. Her voice was something that, because it's radio, her voice was something that Fred would make fun of a lot. But she would laugh at it too, because it is a crazy voice.
Starting point is 00:35:42 She knew, yeah. And so she was very self-deprecating and also the big joke obviously was about how she's always confused for a man and she would laugh about it too. She's like, totally, yeah. They don't see these tits, what the fuck? So back into bodybuilding, 94 NPC nationals, she's sixth. 95 NPC nationals, she's second. Hey, 96, she's sixth, 95 NPC Nationals, she's second. Hey, 96, she's second, and then 97, she is first in the NPC Nationals, she wins it all.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Then in 97 also she goes for Miss Olympia. Which sounds like a big event. That's the biggest thing I imagine. It's a mountain so it's gotta be big, you know? The IFBB Miss Olympia, and she comes in 14th in that. So then in 1997, she, more I guess acting, it's not really acting, but she plays herself. She plays, not really herself I guess though.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Does she? She's not herself, she's in private parts. Yeah, she's playing herself. But does she say she's Nicole Bass? I don't remember. Yeah, because it's likely, I don't remember the scene. It's the one where they're, I remember exactly, where they have the other guy out there filming her on the street, like filming B-roll. Oh, so, okay. And she's like flexing.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Like Gary Del Bonte doing a prep. Yeah, I remember she's like, she's like flexing in heels and she's like, I don't know what to, yeah, what the fuck, these fucking heels and she's having problems. It's definitely her being Nicole Bass, she's like, I don't know what to, yeah, what the fuck, these fucking heels, and she's having problems. It's definitely her being Nicole Bass. She's playing herself. Okay, I don't know if they, I just don't know if they introduce her as, I don't know if she says, I'm Nicole Bass, or if it's just, she just says, Howard comes to wherever.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Gary probably says, come on, Nicole, say the line. Say something like that. Something like that, I'm sure, yeah, yeah. I don't remember now, I haven't seen it in a while. So, November 21st, 1997, Newsday has an article and the headline is, A Woman of Inner Strength 2. Now we're gonna see the softer side. Biceps and her chest, she's inside.
Starting point is 00:37:37 And not just tits, inside of her tits. You know, did you guys know that inside of a woman's tits is her heart, did you know that? It's in there. Buried beneath lungs and shit. Well, yeah, don you guys know that inside of a woman's tits is her heart? Did you know that? It's in there. Buried beneath lungs and shit. Well, yeah, don't worry about that. Somewhere in her tits. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:37:50 So they said, whether it's all about those staring eyes following her while training at the gym or having to stop to sign autographs at the mall, living with a relentless public goes hand in hand with the title of world's largest female bodybuilder. Nicole Bass still is finding it hard to get used to after all the attention, or get used to all the attention even after 14 years of competition. At 6'2 and a rock solid 205 pounds, Jesus, Bass is a woman's body, is women's bodybuilding's most recognizable star thanks to regular appearances on the Howard Stern Show, Montel and The Geraldo Shows.
Starting point is 00:38:27 She did Montel Williams too. She was on TV. She was a known, she's that giant chick who's on everything. The 33 year old Middle Village resident is also Bodybuilding's newest professional, having won the National Physique Committee's, that's I guess the NPC, National Physique Committee, that's what that stands for. Well, I thought it was something else. I did too.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Yeah. Championship in Dallas on November 2nd. Bass can only hope that the judges are impressed with her when she takes the stage tomorrow when the body-donics pinnacle Miss Olympia returns to Manhattan at the Beacon Theater at 8pm. The prejudging starts at 2. Gotta get prejudged, That's how it is. Her debut coincides with the rematch of current Miss Olympia Kim Czeseski and six-time Miss
Starting point is 00:39:14 Olympia Linda Murray. Not Linda, Linda. Linda. Like I'll lend you that. Yeah. She was on those talk shows for like,'m addicted to to exercise things or then they're like if you don't stop and then they're Bring her you're gonna look like this Yeah, or it was like I look like this and people stare at me It was probably like freak people You know what I mean? They would have that because they would have her all that would have a panel of like some guy with a fucking goiter coming up His forehead that was the size of a fucking football and shit like that and sit him next to it was basically Howard Stern's whack pack but
Starting point is 00:39:46 now on the couch Telling him it's okay to be like that or she's coming out and going I was a dork in high school look at me now. Yeah She would have done great on those like fucking scare the shit out of your teenager shows Oh, yeah, those scared straight shit. Come on. I'll take you in there. I'll show you what it's like girls Oh my god, Jesus Christ you get in here. I'll fuck you some 15 year old girl. Yeah. Oh my god, Jesus this girl scary Yeah, also scheduled will be the Miss Fitness Olympia competition with reigning champion sarin Muldrow Sarin like the gas but not spelled that way Why do they this all have happens when you name your kids
Starting point is 00:40:25 fucked up names. You name them Sarin and Linda. They have no choice. They take steroids and lift things because they're mad at you. They have no choice but to juice up their pecs when you do this. No choice, you're hurting them.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Nicole said, I put my whole life into this. Before this I would never put out the effort but this was the one year I did it, and here I am being mentioned with Kim Chizvnevsky and Linda Murray. Today, women's bodybuilding, this is back to the article, women's bodybuilding is suffering mainly from its own progression. Physiques have become far more muscular and chiseled than was Rachel McLeish's, the first Miss Olympia in the 1980s. The work of the women has been tarnished
Starting point is 00:41:06 with reports of widespread steroid use. People have eyes is all that. Rumors. It's not rumors or reports, it's people looked at someone and goes, oh. Oh, Jesus. People don't look like that normally. You're on steroids.
Starting point is 00:41:21 That's just, fuck man. Bodybuilding has been called hardcore, even extreme. Some women bodybuilders have been branded freakish or the dreaded masculine. Although ticket sales have been slow this week for the Super Bowl of Women's Bodybuilding, the sport still has its following. This is Linda Scherzewski or whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:42 It's an acquired taste, I would say. Steroids are definitely an acquired taste. It's an acquired taste I would say. Steroids are definitely an acquired taste. By the way she was once a member of the University of Southern Illinois dance squad. Really? A dance in Saluki she was. Yes. I'm shocked. No shit. She said there's a lot of sacrifice involved in bodybuilding. Women's bodybuilding has opened the doors for other sports. All sports today do at least some type of sacrifice involved in bodybuilding. Women's bodybuilding has opened the doors for other sports. All sports today do at least some type of weightlifting or bodybuilding exercises in their program.
Starting point is 00:42:11 It's a great way of life. And then Linda Murray says, we do this because we want to be unique. I did this because I want to look like this. I am an extreme and I know that. Is it real extreme, Linda? I guess she's like the champ, so she must be. She's gotta be fuckin' ripped and overly weirdly tan and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Yeah, I don't know, what's that about? It makes it pop more. Does it? Yes, yes. Because you'd think that being super white would make it pop more. It doesn't, it doesn't at all. The bronze on the lights, it makes it pop.
Starting point is 00:42:42 That's why wrestlers always went to tanning beds because they said you look more cut. If you're tanned and oiled, you'll look more cut than if you're just fucking doughy and fleshy and pale. I think I'd appreciate them to do both and then I can judge for myself. Let's see you before and after. See you before a spray tan and after one. What do you look like? My opinion changes the tide of this.
Starting point is 00:43:11 Maybe it will. We could do this. We could change it. He said, but there just as there is a public that is turned off by the sport, there are those in the bodybuilding quote cult who appreciate the physically and mentally exhausting regimen of dieting and training. Although many would like to see the sport grow among the general population, they realize it is those within the bodybuilding's cult-like following that keep the sport alive. Linda Murray said, We will always have our fans and they always come and will be interested in who Mr. or Ms. Olympia is. We've just got to stay strong and don't believe the hype. Shavzinski said, we're responsible for keeping the drive
Starting point is 00:43:50 in bodybuilding. It's more acceptable for men to be more muscular. We've got to work to make it more acceptable for women to be looked at that way. And the article goes, and then there's bass. And then there's bass. She said, with 17 inch biceps and 28 inch thighs. 28 inch thighs are that's big. The 17 inch biceps alone are very impressive.
Starting point is 00:44:17 I mean Hulk Hogan always claimed 24 inch biceps and they were never they were 24 inch maybe in like 83. After that there's like 22 and she's actually got a legit 17. This is a big fucking lady. After Urban Suburban Commando? Suburban with Christopher Lloyd. Once they went to the Hollywood Hulk thing, they weren't 24 anymore. No even he said in the late 80s they weren't 24 anymore.
Starting point is 00:44:41 He was touring too much, drinking too much beer. He couldn't do that. So they said 28 inch thighs, Bass will be fulfilling a dream at tomorrow's competition, win or lose. She says, I've worked 14 years from this, said Bass who earned the right to compete upon special invitation from pro body buildings governing body. She's the only one anyone's ever fucking heard of probably. It's like, That's a lot of years, she says. It would be nice for all of New York to be in the audience yelling Nicole, Nicole, Nicole, but that would be a fantasy, I would say.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Let's just say it right now. Grace, that's Grace, I feel like. She's built up. She's the leader of the Wack Pack, unapproposed. Well, I mean, physically, she's certainly gonna. I don't think Beetlejuice has the. I don't think he has the stamina for it. I really don't. I think she could take the rest of the whack pack all by herself. Like if it was Nicole Bass versus the whack back, she's winning.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Versus Wendy. By far. People falling out of physical ailment, crazy people. I don't know. Bigfoot was, he was huge, but I don't think he was coordinated enough to take it. No, this girl was strong too. She's a strong lady. So yeah, great. She's doing well.
Starting point is 00:45:52 The world knows her. It's all positive other than, oh, you're huge. Other than that, it's all positive. Everything's fine. Even Howard Stern's stuff is semi-positive. We joke, but it's okay. Yeah. She's still being, she's beloved.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Howard loves her and he needs her because it's good radio. That's exactly right. It seems like it is. So she ends up training for wrestling at this point. This is when she's into wrestling and she's 34 fucking years old, which is late for wrestling.
Starting point is 00:46:18 A little end, yeah, a little end. She's quote unquote trained by Extreme Championship Wrestling, wrestling ECW the Philadelphia based hardcore shit, okay now This is after ECW. I believe this is right before or right after they got on like TNN member TNN They were on there. This was in 97. They started their first pay-per-view with barely legal So this is when ECW was trying to be the third wrestling company, was trying to make it WWF, WCW, and ECW,
Starting point is 00:46:48 were the three majors. But before this, there was always in the Philly Bingo Hall there, the ECW arena. And oh, I loved it, I thought it was great shit. But national, it's not gonna be a national thing. But all the other ones imitated them. Like when Monday Night Raw did their like in the beginning when it first started
Starting point is 00:47:08 when they were doing it from that fucking ballroom that was like, you know, 600 people in there that was they were imitating ECW type shit. That's what they were and other indies that were trying to get that like we're under the field. I guess the flair of like the involving the crowd and shit like that. That came from that that's ECW a hundred percent ECW had They were the first to have the chance all the time Yeah, they were it was almost like a Rocky Horror picture show you go to an ECW show you knew when to chant You fucked up somebody slipped off the rope the whole crowd chants you fucked up you fucked up when they blow a spot Which is it's tough, it's a tough crowd.
Starting point is 00:47:48 You don't want that at your fucking day job, there's a whole bunch of people screaming at you. That place, ECW Arena is a thousand Philly maniacs. There's no fucking air conditioning in the place. In the summer in Philly, it's a thousand degrees with all these fucking guys in here yelling, screaming, fat dudes drinking beer, fucking guys in here yelling, screaming, fat people, fat dudes drinking beer, shit faced, yelling, screaming.
Starting point is 00:48:08 Sure. Doc words. Yeah, that's what they are. And then a bunch of fucking, if you look at the crowd, it looks like a fucking prison yard. I mean, it's like, holy shit. And then there's Billy Corrigan sitting there with a fucking hood on and a hat. Billy Corrigan was at all this, like tons of the show.
Starting point is 00:48:23 He loved it. He loved it. the smashing pumpkin singer. So she started her professional wrestling career, apparently had her first matches in Japan, is what I see from any of the listings, for NEO Women's Pro Wrestling. Where she- And this is 98?
Starting point is 00:48:40 This is 98, early 98, where she won a tournament there, apparently, she beat Atsuko Mita in the first round of the tournament, then beat Chaparita Asari, and then Kyoko Inoue, she beat after that. So she became the, whatever the fuck that is, the winner of the tournament. They love tournaments in Japan, they love them. They need a bracket to follow.
Starting point is 00:49:03 They love a tournament, like the wrestling, they are always doing tournaments over there. They love that shit. And so China got big around this time? Oh, this is the exact time. That's the other reason why you bring her in is because 97 is when China came in and by 98 she is getting all the publicity. I mean, she was going, they had her in Playboy later and all that, but I mean, she was like getting all the publicity. I mean she was going, they had her in Playboy later and all that, but I mean she was like, everyone knew who the fuck China was.
Starting point is 00:49:28 It was a reference you could make. And so that's ECW goes, we'll grab her. Yeah, and she was youthful at the time, so she wasn't, like she got, she ended up getting bigger when, as she was in wrestling. More roids, more plastic surgery. I think that was so bad, she was, I'll say, she was hot as shit when she, I thought she was so sexy.
Starting point is 00:49:48 In Playboy, oh my god, I loved her. I was a big fan. I was not gonna say that, but okay. I thought she was hot as shit. No, her, it has nothing to do with her body. Her, no. You think that meant that, is it the ass? No, it's the fucking underbite that got me
Starting point is 00:50:01 in the beginning. Oh, count right? Yeah, she looked like a fucking barracuda at first. Little pug. Like a giant barracuda. I was like that's not good at all. I just don't want to see him from the back. When women are too fit from the back it looks like a man's ass and I can't. Yeah. She had that weird thing. Yeah it's a little pug bite. She did like the fucking sling blade thing on her lip. I like french fried potatoes. And I'm like, that's not sexy. I can't deal with that.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I thought she was hot as hell. So she debuts as a valet in 1998 here. And I believe she's got to be involved with Shane Douglas at some point here. She has feuds with Tommy Dreamer and Bula McGillicutty and Mikey Wipreck and all that. Now here is Shane Douglas talking about Nicole. Shane Douglas was like the main ECW guy.
Starting point is 00:50:53 He was there from the beginning. He was, Paul loved him and made him his champ all the time. And he had a big kind of say in a lot of shit. Like people listened to Shane Douglas, at least Paul Heyman did and things like that. So Shane is also a huge blowhard and it's funny to hear him talk all the time. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:11 He's a teacher. He's smarter than your average wrestler too. Yeah. And he loves to make sure you know that, which is one of those things. Like, I'm not stupid. And he's got a voice like this. He's like, I'm not stupid, okay?
Starting point is 00:51:23 Like, it's funny. He's He says for a woman she was a big big big person three bigs triple big six to six three shoulders bigger than most of the guys Yes, and a sweetheart. Oh Nicole Bass was a sweet sweet person to be around. I told my wife, when you meet her, try not to be like shocked because she said, you see her on TV, she's big, when you meet her you're going to go, whoa, that's, don't. Yeah, how do they zoom out and get her all? Try not to sell it, he kept saying.
Starting point is 00:51:59 He said, because the first time you meet her, it takes your breath away. She's a huge specimen. And so he said that his wife flew in for a shower that whatever not flew in drove in or whatever the fuck in there at some hotel. And she said so he said so we're in the lobby of the hotel and I belabored this point to my wife what to expect from the different people when you talk to people. This guy's an asshole. This guy's might be grumpy but he's like this or whatever. Maybe Taz, and my wife was talking to some people, maybe Taz and his wife, and I said,
Starting point is 00:52:28 hey, this is Nicole, and my wife turned around, and he just does this jaw drop, eyes pop thing. What the hell was that? He goes, and I'm thinking, you know, way to not sell her, thanks, like I told you to not do that, but thanks a lot. She said she had her hair all frizzed out and everything, he says, like she looked even bigger when her hair is big and she's big like whoa
Starting point is 00:52:47 That's why like when Andre the giant had the big fro was like, holy fucking shit. Could you be any bigger? You're stretching your head out Your action his head is like just huge and then it's got the hair is twice the size. It was fucking amazing So then they said Shane has asked how she would take all the commentary from the crazy ECW fans because they would you know they would say crazy horribly offensive shit to her all the time and Shane said with a stiff upper lip that's how she took it. She said he said I would yeah he said I would go to the gym with her quite often and she would always
Starting point is 00:53:22 come to me for information and ask me to watch her matches. And so that's when you're in Newin Wrestling, it's you ask a veteran to watch your match and then critique it. What are you doing wrong? What am I doing right? And same way a young comic would ask a comic they respect, would you mind watching my set and telling me how bad I am? So that's...
Starting point is 00:53:41 I mean, that's the... Your goal inside is going, oh, they're going to tell me I'm a genius. But there's no way that's, I mean, that's the, your goal inside is going, oh, they're going to tell me I'm a genius, but there's no way that's happening. I've never asked one person to watch my set. I don't want that. Ever. Don't tell me how bad I am.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Well, it's, I'll figure it out is what it is. It doesn't matter how bad you think I am. I know it sucks, leave me alone. It's fine. And wrestling's different though, because wrestling for everyone to make the money and get paid, the whole card has to be good. So guys are more willing to help each other out
Starting point is 00:54:07 a little bit with that, or like a new guy, I'll watch your match. Some of the guys are ego and they won't help anybody, but some of the guys, they're willing to help the next generation, because you need them to have a business. Whereas comedy, it's like, fuck, a comic will tell you the wrong thing to fuck with you.
Starting point is 00:54:22 So you won't have a better set than them. So it's a totally different thing. It's way more petty. So he says that, and she would always come for information, ask me to watch her matches. What I gathered from all those conversations with Nicole was that she wanted to be a frilly little girl. Wow. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Everybody says that. She really wanted to be like feminine and, and no one would take her like that. But you can't be. It's hard. I mean, you can be, but no one's going to see that. And you know what I mean? It's just, no one's going to see that.
Starting point is 00:54:58 It's just the only way to sell that is in like possibly a place where you're committed, you know, like a mental hospital. Put her in anything pink and lacy and then be like this person thinks that they're a tiny little girl. And you sit them next to the guy wearing the Napoleon hat who thinks he's, yeah. Or wearing the same clothes as her thinking he's a tiny little girl. Thinking, yeah. The cheats from Up and Smoke there. Yeah, yeah. That outfit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:28 So she wanted to be a frilly little girl and dainty and be able to portray all of that. And it just wasn't in the cards for he says, that's the way to put it. He said, so she took the assets God gave her and expounded on them, but she had been a veteran of the, of Howard Stern at that point. And some really horrendous things said about her So that was her shtick. But if you asked her I think deep inside her heart. She'd rather be Francine Francine was Shane Douglas's valet who was a big titted skinny very feminine I mean all the guys were chanting about her tits and they wanted to fuck her and all that
Starting point is 00:56:04 I think she'd rather be Francine there at ringside than Nicole Bass. And Shane is asked if he thinks Nicole ever wanted to even be in wrestling or if it was just a way to make some quick money. Because if you're in the bodybuilding and people know who you are that's a way you can go make some dollars on the side. How do you monetize that? And this is a way. He says I think once she got into it, I think there was some point of respect of what the guys were doing and having fun. But no, I don't think she was a wrestling fan. And at this time China is getting a ton of press. Oh
Starting point is 00:56:38 she's seeing If you're a big giant girl in wrestling, you can make a shitload of money and get very famous off of it And she's trying to do it. Then he says, this is Shane, China, nothing against her, but she was minuscule next to Nicole. If you stood them next to each other, you'd be like, oh, that girl's in a lot of trouble. That girl's going to kick her fucking ass. It's a different body.
Starting point is 00:56:59 It's a different... Exactly. ...different maths. Very different. He said her husband at the time, Bob, I think his name was, that's Bob Fuchs, nice guy, there's one nice guy, see? There's one spectrum. But?
Starting point is 00:57:11 Nice guy, no, would interact with the boys in the back. There were times, not many, but there were times I saw him, I don't want to say browbeat her or abuse her because I think she could have probably ripped him in half if she wanted to, but just like let me explain things to you type of thing like he's gonna sit her down and give her the fucking what-for of what she's doing Wrong and all that shit and knowing her when she and I would go to the gym. She'd talk openly You know, ah, you know, I do feel a little uncomfortable and that sort of thing And I think it was a really sad thing for me because I could tell she yearned to be something else. But like all of us, you're pretty much
Starting point is 00:57:49 stuck with what you have. And in her case, if she could have snapped her fingers, she'd have snapped them and been Francine or anybody else there at ringside, one of the real feminine girls. A lot of times, I think the ECW fans slammed her. And then he says, understand she had no formal training. So that the trained by ECW's bullshit. They needed her to get out there and make money.
Starting point is 00:58:12 So she's a spectacle, put her on there. So when you put somebody who's not trained in a ring, you can't be mad at them for not being great at it. It takes so fucking long. And even now it takes these guys a longer time, I think. Honestly, I mean, they have the, they don't get to do it as much as they did back in the day. You know, in the seventies and the eighties, guys would start wrestling and they'd wrestle literally 360 days a year. So they get good at it pretty
Starting point is 00:58:39 quick. In ECW, they were running like two shows a week and you weren't on all of them. So I mean, it's, you, there was no way for you to get the experience to be almost no way to make enough money to live Either oh no there wasn't there wasn't and that's what ECW's problem was is they didn't have enough shows So then guys started getting plucked and fucking and sniped away by the bigger places So then they would ECW was like we have to pay these guys yeah yeah well Shane Douglas was a teacher while he was doing this yeah he was teaching class and what if he got tenure then his wrestling career so yeah well George the Animal Steel did that really George the Animal Steel for years and years and
Starting point is 00:59:18 years oh when we were little kids and he was wrestling that's when he retired from teaching and wrestled full-time before that he used to only wrestle during the summers that man was in a classroom? He was the football coach and an English teacher at the high school. And because wrestling was regional, none of his students knew who the fuck he was. They had no fucking idea. They had no clue because he'd go to New York and wrestle, then go back to Detroit and teach school. They didn't know what the fuck was going on in New York wrestling, so they didn't see him. And then later on, in the 80s, when it became more national, he said that he came into class one day
Starting point is 00:59:50 and all of his students put out green tongues, and he was like, okay, fine, you got me, fine. Al Snow's daughter has an autograph from him, and for being an English teacher, his penmanship is fucking garbage. I think it was English, might've been science or some shit, I don't know. It was school, he had to read other people's shit
Starting point is 01:00:10 and write notes on their papers. Shoot interviews with him are fun because he's a very smart guy and he's not like, I'm a man, I'm a, one of those guys, he's not kick his ass, he's a total like, an intellectual that's wrestling. So like his view of people and things that happened are very, very fucking good because it's like, he knows this guy's a total like an intellectual that's wrestling so like his view of people and things that happened are very very fucking good because it's like he knows this guy's a Moron and he'll tell you like why he's a moron. It's very funny. So
Starting point is 01:00:33 She he says understand she had no formal training She came into our business as a bodybuilder and she was great at that but she was but she wasn't lazy There was never a time where she was like, oh, I don't need to know this. She wanted to learn. She was trying to learn. Nicole in her own way was really trying to learn. And I just don't I just don't think Paul had her figured in that way. He had her figured in as come see the spectacle. Nicole Bass didn't have her figured in as a serious part of the of the crew, basically. And here is Francine, who was Shane Douglas's valet here and did a lot in the business on her own.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Here is Francine on Nicole, which is interesting because it's a woman's point of view and it's interesting here. She said, I tried to help Nicole as much as I could, but she just didn't get it. When she first got here, she was so used to the bodybuilding. Like I remember we were in the car and she didn't feel like she should have to pay for anything. Like she should have all her expenses paid for her like right away. No paying dues, no anything.
Starting point is 01:01:33 And I tried to explain to her this isn't bodybuilding and she'd be like in bodybuilding they send a car. They pick me up in a car. Now I'll have to go rent a car. Yeah. Why aren't they picking me up? Yeah. a car, now I'll have to go rent a car. Yeah, why aren't they picking me up? Yeah, in wrestling back in the day, that was like if you were a big star,
Starting point is 01:01:48 you could work in as part of your deal, is they're gonna pay your expenses or whatever, like an ECW, but otherwise, you just paid your expenses. Figure yourself out, yeah. And if you made any money on a show, lucky you, basically, that's how it worked. She then says she wanted everybody to remember everybody else's spots. Meaning in the ring she wanted everyone to know what everybody
Starting point is 01:02:11 like a football offense. Yeah, no the other matches that have no fucking bearing on yours. No, no, not in that. Everybody in the match that's going on, you know everything they're supposed to do and they know everything you're supposed to do and when it's supposed to happen. But that's not how they do it back then. Now they might plan it all out, but back then it was, you know your spot. You know once this happens, when this guy throws this guy over the top rope, then I go and do this.
Starting point is 01:02:38 And then I wait for the next thing to happen that I'm waiting for my cue, basically. But then the people in between know their cues off of what they're doing, so it all flows. You know what I mean? So she said she wanted everybody to remember everybody else's spots so they could help each other. Like if you forgot where the fuck you were,
Starting point is 01:02:54 someone could help you. And I was like, no, you remember your spot, the boys remember theirs. I don't think she ever got it. She really didn't get the business. And during Halloween, every time someone would see something with Frankenstein they turned to her and say Like that's you. Well, that's what Fred would do too for her voice. Yeah, what you do Herman Munster. Yeah
Starting point is 01:03:17 And she's not on my balls. Oh And she'd get so mad Francine said she had a good heart I just feel like she didn't really understand what the business was about which is So common of a thing to be said for people who come from outside the wrestling business into the rest of business the same thing We see these fucking people How many times have you done a show with like a local fucking? Radio guy comes on and does five minutes or something He has no idea how to interact in the green room with people because they're not part
Starting point is 01:03:46 of it. And you don't get it. He doesn't have an interaction with the crowd either because he's not used to that. He just talks into the mic and that whether they react or not, you keep going. Yeah, you just keep going. You don't know what they're reacting to. That's why this shit is fucking weird. It's weird for us because we're used to a response.
Starting point is 01:04:04 That's why the people that do a show alone, they're out of fucking minds. I can't imagine. Imagine yelling into a void and not, you say something funny, I laugh. I say something funny, you laugh. It's okay, we hope other people agree. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:04:15 I don't know, so that seems crazy. So she said that she didn't know or understand what the business was all about. Now, September 15th, 1998 is the big deal on Howard Stern where the results of her DNA test are in. She agreed to do a DNA test to find out if she was quote, really a woman or not. You heard this, right, during this time?
Starting point is 01:04:41 Of course. Yeah, obviously she knew she's a woman and they all know she's a woman, but it's ratings and that's what you do. And she showed her vagina to Robin in the bathroom. Yes. I mean, it's very obvious she's a woman. Yes, she's obviously a woman.
Starting point is 01:04:57 She's as big. But it's good radio, it's funny radio, it's riveting radio, and that's what Howard cares about. Yeah. And she doesn't want to let down the team Nicole She wants to be a part of the show and if she does this It's gonna keep her around more and keep her relevant to the show. So she's another yeah, she doesn't care stupid She knows how it's gonna come out. It's not like I'm worried about she's not sweating the results or anything
Starting point is 01:05:19 Yeah, it's not a it's not Chris Watts going into a. I was gonna say, it's not a polygraph test. You're like, I'm not sure if I didn't... And even he knew what was gonna happen. He knew what was up here. So they said, Nicole was a little late getting to the studio, so everyone, this is a quote from the show, so everyone thought that she wasn't going to show up at all. She came in and complained about the way Alan had treated her when he took the swabs from her mouth and took the photos of her. He accidentally called her sir while he was doing the test.
Starting point is 01:05:50 And Nicole got very upset. That's fucked up. In her mind, inside of this, if you cracked open this big person, you took an axe and then opened her up, there'd be like a little be like a little feminine girl in there who's like- A little Barbie in there. A little Barbie in there and you're like, hello sir, and she's like, got it! Which I can totally understand. But as a guy, when there's someone towering over you and she's got arms like that, it
Starting point is 01:06:19 feels masculine and your natural response is being polite to say, to say, sir, to a masculine person. I think it's also a thing of like guys not having, I don't know, I think guys are uncomfortable with a girl that seems like they could kick their ass. I think there's some certain discomfort with that, so you feel like you have to like, what up, sir, like I can't treat you like a woman, you're a man, it's weird.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Or Howard probably said, there's an extra five hundo in it if you say sir. Call her sir, see what happens. They said Nicole also brought her plastic surgeon with her to back up her claim of being female. Well, here's what Alan said about Nicole. Quote, Nicole Bass is definitely a woman. Some people were hoping for the results
Starting point is 01:07:03 to come out the other way, but it didn't happen. So that brings that controversy to an end. That's what they said about it. So there you go. But there were pictures of her genitals that were much more swollen, I guess, is the word than you would assume or exactly how swollen you would assume. I don't know. If you're lifting that much weight, something's gotta pop out, I figure. Something's gotta go.
Starting point is 01:07:27 You know what I mean? Something's gotta give. So I figure you're gonna, it's gonna like, you're gonna pop it. Behind all that pressure, you're gonna push shit out. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're gonna go from an Innie to an Outie real fast probably, so.
Starting point is 01:07:38 And who gives a shit? Oh, whatever. Yeah, a vagina's a vagina, it's all good. So she ends up in WWE here, WWF at the time, it wasn't WWE for two or three more years. So she debuts at WrestleMania 15. Wow. So big debut, March 28, 1999, as Sable's bodyguard.
Starting point is 01:07:59 Now do you remember Sable? She was, oh, I loved her too. Really? She was also in Playboy. I had that one too. Two like fake blonde, fake tits, fake this, fake that. I don't like that like, I don't like that like polished, I'm a woman with my big fake tits and like,
Starting point is 01:08:15 she looked like a Fox News anchor. Like I don't like that look, that's not attractive to me. I think, I think Vince was like reading my diary. Just marketing these women to me. I loved everything he put out. Vince was obsessed with her. Vince McMahon and Vince Russo were both obsessed with Sable. And she was smaller than Chyna, right?
Starting point is 01:08:38 She was a model, not a bodybuilder. Yeah, she wasn't, I mean height-wise too. Oh yeah, no, she's smaller. Yeah, definitely. She was Marc M she wasn't. I mean, height wise, too. Oh, yeah. No, no, smaller. Yeah, yeah, definitely. She she was Mark Mero's wife. That's how she got into it. Mark Mero, the wrestler. Yeah. Johnny B. Bad and WCW. That's his wife. She just happened to come to the WWF interview with him.
Starting point is 01:08:56 And they were like, look at her. Oh, we got to have her on. She's beautiful. You were whacking it to her. Playboy. I liked her a lot, a whole lot. So she debuted Sable's bodyguard here. She also has matches, they do intergender matches there where they have man, like a mixed tag team basically.
Starting point is 01:09:17 And her and Val Venis, if you remember the Val Venis character, he was the porn star guy who wore a towel over his junk all the time. And yeah, and they defeated D'Lo Brown and Ivory, who Ivory was on all those tough enough ones and she was on the Surreal Life as well, I believe. Really? That one, yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Then also on May 2nd, 99, she defeats Debra. That can't be Debra like fucking Debra McMichael. No, she was in WCW still either way It was a 12 second match. So they threw her in an evening gown match. Yeah So it was to can tear the evening ground gown off the other So it might have been just a regular like a small change suits And she just grabbed her fucking ripped it in the sick of seven pieces here. That was on Monday Night Raw actually I'm ripped into six or seven pieces here. That was on Monday Night Raw, actually.
Starting point is 01:10:04 Then WWF No Mercy, 1999 UK pay-per-view, she defeats Tori as well in 27 seconds. So yeah, it was Deborah McMichael. Yeah, she's in an extended feud with Deborah McMichael, which is ridiculous, because Deborah McMichael maybe weighs 120 pounds. You know, she has- And she's wrestling Nicole Bass?
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yes, she's the one that used to come out with Steve McMichael and WCW and like the long dress and like have the southern accent and all that. She was, she wasn't she married to Steve Austin, I believe at one point too. She I think was, she was the one in the Steve Austin Chris Adams love triangle, if I'm not mistaken. Really? I believe it was, she was involved in that, Deborah McMichael. And then she was with Steve McMichael and then somebody else too.
Starting point is 01:10:51 It's an interesting couple of dudes to be torn between. It's a strange, very odd. All right, sure. Very, very odd. Englishmen or a fucking hillbilly, one of the two. Sable married Brock Lesnar, is that true? Maybe later, I don't know. I know it. This wasn't this wasn't good for her relationship with her husband who went to the bottom of the
Starting point is 01:11:10 card and ended up getting released and then she's a big star. So yeah. So this was Bass and Val Venus against Jeff Jarrett and Deborah at 99 over the edge, which I don't even know why you would have that. This match was the match that took directly took place directly after Owen Hart died at the paper. Oh my god. So they dropped Owen Hart from the ceiling. He's dead. They bring fucking haul his carcass out of the ring and then bring in this go on and then bring in Val Venus after that. It's fucking ridiculous. Ridiculous. His name rhymes with penis. Let's go on purpose. Yeah. It's fucking ridiculous, ridiculous. A guy whose name rhymes with penis, let's go. On purpose, yeah, he's the porn guy.
Starting point is 01:11:50 That was one of the scummiest things that anybody's ever fucking done. How do you keep going? That is one of the scummiest fucking things I've ever, ever, ever, ever fucking heard of in a major, you would expect that in a third world country or something. Someone died, they just kept on with the show
Starting point is 01:12:07 and we'd be like, that's horrifying. They- We're in Bangladesh, what do you expect? Yeah, that's what happens. They fucking peeled this man's fucking corpse from the ring and were like, all right guys, get out there, your music's starting. Are you fucking crazy?
Starting point is 01:12:23 There's still blood everywhere. Wow, that was disgusting. That told you all you need to know about Vince McMahon right there. Piece of shit. So, yeah, so anyway, Nicole Bass and Val Venus obviously beat these two because to have Nicole and Debra in the ring is silly.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Nicole could beat up seven Debra's at the same time. Like, even if they had high heels, they were swinging at her. Like in a video game. Her abilities of just throwing people is absurd. She's huge. She's just monstrous. She's also in a pay-per-view event May 28th, 1999
Starting point is 01:12:56 for Power Pro Wrestling in Memphis, Tennessee. Brandon Baxter and her defeated C.B. Wyatt and Derek King. So, she's always been a woman. By the way, here's a, from a newspaper, the Kokomo Tribune from June 24th, 1999. Like asking questions of the editorial staff. Question, was Nicole Bass ever a man? What is her real name? They wrote that in?
Starting point is 01:13:21 They wrote that and they answered it. Nicole Bass is and always has been a woman and her married name is Fuchs let's just walk it she's a woman always has been write a letter to the newspaper and then wait for it to maybe get answered oh good I was wondering about that and keep reading every day this is a 1999 there was better ways to find information. Yeah. Dogpile exists. Google exists for Christ's sake.
Starting point is 01:13:48 No shit. Now she leaves the WWF in 1999 and files a lawsuit against the WWF for sexual harassment. September 9th, or September 10th, 1999. This is like a women's, I think this glow GLO W glue of wrestling here this event where she is a I guess she defeats Ryan Shamrock okay oh Ken's Ken's brother yeah gotta be right yeah yeah then the next night she beats him again. So she beats this guy twice in a row. September 17th here, looks like there's two matches. She defeats Allison Snow in a match and then there's a gauntlet where she defeats Amy,
Starting point is 01:14:37 Angel, John, Mimi, Ring Crew Garrett, Ring Crew Lauren. She beats a bunch of people at the same time. And then a few ushers. She just beat up everybody in the building. Hey, French fry lady, let's go bitch! Anybody still standing? Come here. Come on!
Starting point is 01:14:54 Let's go ushers, it's on bitch! November 20th, 1999, she defeats the Blue-netic BLU. I wonder if that is the Blue Meie probably because this is XPW. XPW, there's a whole, we'll do a bonus episode on it probably, but there's a whole fucking thing about it. There's a dark side of wrestling on it too. And XPW is owned by Rob Black, who's a porn producer. So that tells you what we're dealing with here.
Starting point is 01:15:24 So that's how Jasmine St. Clair gets involved in this also, who's the porn producer. So that tells you what we're dealing with here. So that's how Jasmine St. Clair gets involved in this also, who is the porn actress who did the gang bang films, who films, you know, as they were considered by the Academy. She did the fuck 300 guys in a day movie. But she didn't end up fucking all of them, did she? No, she said it was the biggest lie in the history of film. She said it was actually about like 30 guys and only 10 of them could actually get it up
Starting point is 01:15:48 And that was what she because that's fucking we still got it just because she can participate doesn't mean we can We're interested in this So that's the crazy part about gang bangs when they do those it's's just like, the novelty of it isn't hot to us, PS. No. Any guy that is, they can't. It's weird. They can't qualify to be a part of this. Very weird, yeah, real weird fucking thing to do,
Starting point is 01:16:14 honestly, as a guy. I'm not interested in seeing your balls. What was her name? Jasmine St. Clair. Okay. She was going for the record of most guys having sex within a day and all that, then she made another video where there was a bunch of guys fucking her. Anyway, she married the Blue Meanie, the wrestler from ECW.
Starting point is 01:16:32 And then she ended up partially financing three PW wrestling later on for the Blue Meanie gang being gangbang money with gangbang cash, which apparently is a lot of money in gang bangs. Hear that everybody? There's something out there for all of us. Okay Don't tell me you can't make a living when there's money in gang bangs not for the guy doing it. No She then beat in a two-on-one handicap match She beat felony and the bloonatik and she also defeats dynamite D on December 17th and she also defeats Dynamite D on December 17th, 1999,
Starting point is 01:17:08 which I just picture Sweet D from Always Sunny and a giant woman beating the shit out of her. And the joke's on her. Yup, and then 1999, here is more quote unquote acting. This is a Rob Black production, of course, the guy who ran XPW, which means it's a porn. It is called Pain and Suffering. Oh no. It's an hour and 15 minutes long directed by Lizzie Borden nice to see that she came out of her previous troubles with a Career intact. That's good. Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:34 And stars Nicole bass on nature blossom. Whoever the fuck that is Everett, I don't know who that is Hunk Hollywood. That's a great name for a fucking porn guy, Christy Mist, who she's come up in other people's porns that we've talked about before, Christy with an I, Christy Mist, M-Y-S-T, and Alexandra Silk star in this. And it is under the tags of sex, anal sex, hardcore, and oral sex. So I think there might there's sex involved. I think there might have been sex involved, but I feel like this is Nicole Bass like forcing
Starting point is 01:18:10 women to do things. I think it's probably the whole plot there. January or breaking a guy down and then like, I don't know. January 14th, 2000, CWF wrestling she for the title she defeats Ryan Wing and becomes the women's title holder in Wayne, New Jersey. January 29 2000 she beats Jasmine St. Clair which is very weird to put a little skinny big boob porn actor in the fucking ring with her. She can take a pounding I'm told.
Starting point is 01:18:42 She can take a pounding, I'm told. She can take a real pounding. This is XPW Abuse of Power, which is a good way to put it. And this is at the Vogue Theater in Los Angeles. I don't even know where the fuck that is. It may be closed by now. Probably. Or it's that, they just renamed that terrible place we fucking played that was in between the pawn shops and the liquor stores.
Starting point is 01:19:03 That was the Palace, James. It's never changed. Oh yeah, that's right. That was Skid Row. It's been called that since the liquor stores. That was the palace, James. It's never changed. Yeah, that's right. It's been called that since the 1880s. That was right. It was Houdini. That was the one with Houdini's trapdoor and all that shit. And I'm like, Houdini would have needed a trapdoor
Starting point is 01:19:12 if the fucking neighborhood was like it is now. He would have needed that trapdoor for another reason. There were stalls for the elephants for him to ride out. Yes, I remember. So that the homeless couldn't get him. That was fucking nuts. I'm up high. You can't get me now.
Starting point is 01:19:24 He just threw pennies to the people as he paraded out and his shit. Jasmine St. Clair on Nicole, okay, she said, and this is interesting because she's not, wasn't a trained lifelong wrestling business person, so it's a different point of view. She said, I honestly felt sad for her sometimes I remember going out to eat with her after some shows and guys would say stuff to me and Nicole would walk up to the guys And say are you saying something to my girlfriend and they'd all be like, no, sorry She'd terrify them. That's not why she felt bad for him, but that's a funny little side story there Yeah, I mean that's no one no guys gonna be like, yeah
Starting point is 01:20:02 I am she you don't want to get beat up by a giant woman at the White Castle probably that's not a giant woman who just Proclaimed to be a lesbian and it's gonna fight you over his over her girl gonna throw you through the front window of IHOP I don't think that's at 2 a.m.. We don't need that She said but I felt bad for her. I felt like her husband I think he was his own version of a suitcase pimp. Do you know what a suitcase pimp is? She asks. The interviewer also didn't know what a suitcase pimp is. I do not Jasmine, please tell me. A younger English fellow and he said, no, no, I don't. I don't believe I know. And she says this, quote, a suitcase pimp is this it is a man that lives off a woman
Starting point is 01:20:46 But promotes her career so much But is strictly in it for financial gain and doesn't really give two fucks about her at the end of the day So a pimp that doesn't force a girl to fuck but instead Doesn't do shit, but like acts like they're sure So basically like a housewife is what they just described, or an early 20th century woman, and you know what I mean, that's the role of a suitcase pimp. And doesn't give a fuck about her.
Starting point is 01:21:14 Yeah, and old school, yeah, you go out, yeah honey, you make the whatever, but not cleaning the house or taking care of the kids or doing any of the things that women did when they were housewives 75 years ago. Iceberg Slim liked these women. He cared about these women. They just also made money for him,
Starting point is 01:21:29 is what she's trying to say. I don't know about that. Iceberg Slim was a different kind of, he was a pimp pimp. He was a little vicious. Yeah, he was a pimp pimp. But he still cared about them, or at least he tried to let on them.
Starting point is 01:21:41 Anybody heating up a wire hanger to beat somebody with probably doesn't care that much about them. Little less than they should probably. He'll wear her, oh, he doesn't really give a fuck about her at the end of the day. He'll wear her to the bone. A lot of girls in the adult film industry have this, you know, like yeah, oh yeah, my girlfriend does all this
Starting point is 01:21:59 and she's pumping the career, but she's sucking a bunch of dicks so you have money. Right. You know? So dicks so you have money. Right. You know? So she said, you'd have this. Then if you ever saw the movie Star 80 with Eric Roberts, it's based upon the tragedy of Dorothy Stratton. That's a suitcase pimp.
Starting point is 01:22:16 So I just remembered he would be there, and he was overly nice, and it's like, what's your fucking purpose again? I was nice to him out of respect for Nicole. So everything from nice guy to suitcase pimp, we have no idea. Dorothy Stratton was the Playboy model that the suitcase pimp murdered her in the room, right? Exactly, yes, that's the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:22:36 That's a crazy movie. That was piece of shit. So she, then they asked how was she in the ring? And everybody says, love the girl girl but not great in the ring Jasmine said when she gave me a power slam. She fucked up my ribs pretty bad Then she was like straddling me like are you okay? She made that voice And I was like I didn't mean to hurt you. Oh, I'm sorry
Starting point is 01:23:01 And I was like just get the fuck off of me And we didn't talk for like a few days. And then everything was fine after that. She said, I feel as though there was much to her that people gave, or much more to her than people gave her credit for. And she was great in ECW and she was great in XPW. She was great wherever she went. Well, not in the ring, but she was a spectacle, definitely.
Starting point is 01:23:21 Then she's in April 15th, 2000. This looks like NWA New Jersey. I didn't even know. NWA Jersey. Jersey NWA. Come over here. Let's go right on the beach, Atlantic City. It's gonna be great.
Starting point is 01:23:34 She, Amy Lee, defeats Nicole Bass. I don't know who Amy Lee is, but that must be a big bitch. She's from Evanescence. Oh. She sings a lot of songs, guys. 2000, she's in I Love to Hurt You, which is an X-rated movie directed by Lizzie Borden and starring Nicole Bass. Looks like just Nicole Bass, the only one on the IMDB, and of course Rob Black is the
Starting point is 01:23:59 executive producer and it is under sex, anal sex, hardcore, oral sex. She's just hammering herself? I don know maybe it beats me forcing a guy to I don't know sticking his whole head inside of her I have no idea what he's doing wearing her like a hat. Yeah This is April 20th 2000. She beats riptide. I guess at the CWF event then she's also in manhandled This movie is so good it has two directors. Robert Black and Slane Wayne is the other director. And she's in this and she's again the only talent listed on the IMDB. So I don't know what's going on here. She has to be hurting someone. If it's manhandled, she's got to be handling someone. Who's she handling?
Starting point is 01:24:45 Is she handling herself and they're like... Saying she's a man? That doesn't make sense. I don't like that. It's very weird. That's me. I don't know. She beats Dina for the NWA Jersey Women's title on May 12, 2000 and then defeats Deanna the next night. So Dina then Deanna. Maybe give them different names. Maybe get like Sean.
Starting point is 01:25:07 Yeah. Fucking. S-H-A-W-N something like that. Yeah, what the fuck? I guess. Then she's in Violence on Violence. Oh yeah. Directed and written and directed by Slayne Wayne.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Really? Now this also has John Cronus in it who was a wrestler He was a wrestler. He's an ECW wrestler, so I don't know I never knew he did porn He's her and him. I don't know but it's it's stars Nicole Bass John Cronus Kelly There's no picture, so I don't know if it's a guy or a chick. Joey Strange, and then Jacqueline Lick. That might be the best porn name I've ever heard. Jacqueline Lick, I like that one a lot, that's great. Then and she's working for WXW Wrestling.
Starting point is 01:25:57 She's in a three-way match, this is a three-way match, not a video. Defeating, or someone else beat her and somebody else, I don't fucking know. It doesn't matter next video up This does matter spank those bitches, too Now Listen, it didn't have it didn't have the same warmth of plot really that smack spank those bitches one had failure of a sequel It's no no no it expounds on the story a bit.
Starting point is 01:26:25 So it's like, okay, yes, thank those bitches too. We're spanking more bitches this time and everything like that. But yeah, more spanking. There's a certain visceral connection that your that your brain just makes with spank those bitches one that I feel like spank those bitches to just feels like a real, you know, just a glossy version of it. It's just too glossy. I like it raw, Jimmy. I felt spanked those bitches one, spanked the wrong bitches. Really? Oh, it's okay. I think they were spanking these bitches.
Starting point is 01:26:53 I feel like, you know what, it probably is all cleared up and spanked those bitches three, and we just didn't see the entire, we didn't see the whole catalog because they probably, I'm sure all the issues are worked out of which bitches needed to be spanked and were spanked rightfully or wrongly. That's probably what they should do first is sort that out before we start any part. You know what really then you could have had multiple sequels of spanking the right bitches and that's really what's important spanking the right bitch. Spanking those bitches. Two. This stars Nicole Bass.
Starting point is 01:27:28 Is this also directed by Slane Wayne? Of course it is. We'll find out. Stars, no, Tom Byron is the producer, Robert Black, Rob Black obviously, exec producer. Starring Nicole Bass, Cleo, Kimmy with an I, these are no pictures for any of these. One M?
Starting point is 01:27:47 Yeah, one M, K-I-M-I. Sure, she's Asian, obviously. Yeah. You know she's Asian. Cleo's the black girl, go on. Based on porn, she's Asian, that's a black girl. Something for everybody. Yep, Jamie Lee, who I assume is Jamie Lee Curtis's
Starting point is 01:28:02 alter ego here doing this. Well, the main writer of Ted Lasso, her name's Jamie Lee. She's a comedian. She's so funny. From humble beginnings, Jimmy, from humble beginnings of spank those bitches too. She was beaten into Hollywood. Wow. Well, you know what? She's paid her dues. I'm going to say it right now. Good for you, Jamie Lee. Good for you. Also, Nikki Steele in this.
Starting point is 01:28:26 This is Nikki with an I and Steele with an E. And then again, Joey Strange is in this. Of course. He's spanking these bitches. Spanking all these bitches. And it says it's just sex and hardcore. I don't see anal or oral in there at all. So I don't know what's going on here. She looks like NWA Jersey.
Starting point is 01:28:42 This is at the Wildwood Convention Hall on August 24th, 2000. She's beaten by Yoshiko Tamura defeats her and wins the Jersey title. So Nicole though is going to take all that frustration out on another movie where she stars in Beat Your Ass. You bet she will. And this is, there's a description none of these other ones have descriptions of what the plot is here because I mean obviously but this has a fucking description this is directed by Rob Bass also stars Anita
Starting point is 01:29:16 Campbell Randy Storm and Kasorn Swan whoever the fuck that is okay quote Christy Mist gets pummeled for being a naughty girl by Nicole bass ex WWF star who is her abusive girlfriend? What this is you ever want to watch fucking women beat each other up and make each other eat her eat their pussies Is this a fucking you ever want to beat off to domestic violence? Rape come on over sweet domestic violence porn awesome What a fucking weird thing here don't Know she has some legal problems as you had to understand. Yeah, it's unraveling if you're going down
Starting point is 01:29:56 Yeah, bottom rung or I guess middle middle rung wrestling to bottom rung wrestling down to porn to pay your bills Yeah, and Fred Norris is calling you fucking Herman Munster. While you're spanking those bitches for money. It's not going well. It's not going well. September 18th, 2000, Daily News, their headline is getting out of hand. Bodybuilder bit officer during brawl, cops say. What?
Starting point is 01:30:25 Oh, she's pulling a Sally McNeil. Remember when Sally McNeil, they tried to come get her during a bar brawl and she jumped up on the table, started kicking cops in the face? That's what we have going on here. She's biting people. Yup, a 6 foot to 230 pound woman wrestler and bodybuilder who's a regular guest on Howard Stern's radio show was arrested on charges of biting a cop during a melee at the San Gennaro feast. What the fuck? Get some sausage and peppers and a fucking, what are we, and a napoleon and a fucking move on. What are we
Starting point is 01:30:54 doing? Get some schvayadel and shut the fuck up. What are you beating people up for at San Gennaro? What kind of conflict can a cannoli not satisfy? I don't understand this. Sausage and peppers can bring the world together on a good fucking bread. What are we doing? You find me the father spirit l truck and you won't leave there will be no anger How many guys think about all the fucking people hanging out the San Gennaro festival? That's gone. Look at this fucking broad over here She's good. I got a bitch a cop comes up nightstick out And there's a guy going ten bucks on the broad three to one I'm taking let's go people were betting on it. She's biting them. I'm telling you the broads got fucking moxie. Let me
Starting point is 01:31:33 We can do this. Let's go. Come on kick his fucking ass, sweetheart Taking bets on who takes damage Betty has a bite mark I'll take that bet. He's gonna be the boy in black and blue when he's fucking done over here, this guy. She's gonna kick his fucking ass. Let's go! He's eating this fucking sandwich.
Starting point is 01:31:53 Eating a field farm hero while he's saying it. And then black and blue line this guy. Yeah, that's what it is. That's all they're gonna have to do. It took six cops to subdue Nicole Bass. Oh my God. Yeah, there is not. It's a giant strong person. It took six cops to subdue Nicole Bats. Oh my god. Yeah, there is not.
Starting point is 01:32:07 It's a giant strong person. There's not a lineup card that she's been on that was full of women that could beat her. If six cops. Six cops. Couldn't do it. Wow, a former World Wrestling Federation star who bills herself as the world's biggest female bodybuilder. Her stepdaughter, Jennifer Fuchs, told the Daily News. This is my stepmom beating a cop up.
Starting point is 01:32:29 Fuchs, 31, this is the stepdaughter said, quote, there were two cops on each of her arms. One had a foot on her back and the sixth was grabbing her hair and macing her eyes. Jesus Christ. Like Gulliver's Travels. Wow. No shit. Yeah, they got her all pinned down.
Starting point is 01:32:44 She's going to break all of the restraints. Like Gulliver's Travels. Wow. No shit. Yeah, they got her all pinned down. She's going to break all of the restraints. A man standing on her chest with like a fire extinguisher full of mace and can't hold her down. It's not working. She said she was going to spank us bitches. Does that mean anything to anybody?
Starting point is 01:33:03 I'd love to hurt you. Wow. Fuchs, the stepdaughter, by the way, the stepdaughter is 31 and Nicole is 36 at this point. So her husband is got to be, he's got to be at least 15, 20 years older than her. She's got a daughter. So they go on. Fuchs said the trouble started at about 10.45 pm Saturday after her boyfriend, meaning Nicole's boyfriend, this woman's father, and Bass bought heroes at Mulberry and Kenmare streets in the heart of the famed Little Italy feast.
Starting point is 01:33:39 They were trying to make their way through the narrow packed streets when Alexander Ronane, 21, of Queens, allegedly punched Fuchs in the back of the head, meaning the husband, not the, not the, you wouldn't punch her in the back of the head. No fucking way. She'd turn around and shove that fucking sandwich right up your asshole. When her father came to her aid,
Starting point is 01:34:03 oh no, this guy punched her, punched the stepdaughter. Oh. When her father came to her aid, oh no, this guy punched her, punched the stepdaughter. When her father came to her aid, Ronane slapped him, so slapped Fuchs, the husband. Her boyfriend, meaning stepdaughter boyfriend, John Rupp, 30 of Long Island joined the fray, she said. So now it's a fucking brawl. Three people in one family on one guy. Wow. Authorities said Bass of Queens, Nicole Bass, scratched Ronane's neck, but Fuchs insisted Bass was not involved in the brawl and was jumped by the cops when she tried to give
Starting point is 01:34:35 her handcuffed husband his heart medication. Oh Jesus Christ. That's how old he is. She's in her 30s? And he's got heart medication. My god. Cops said Bass, who has 18 inch biceps and both she can bench press 350 pounds, chomped down on the right hand of Officer James Secreto. Secreto was treated at St. Vincent's Medical Center.
Starting point is 01:34:56 A second cop was treated for a minor injury in the scuffle too. Now here is Robert Fuchs, Nicole's husband, said, my wife was totally on the sidelines until she was grabbed by six officers. The fight had nothing to do with the Howard Stern show or my wife, he said. He's 52, by the way. Oh boy.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Had nothing to do with that. Bass, who was often chided by Stern for her deep voice and even submitted to an on-air DNA test to prove she's a woman, spoke softly last night at her arraignment on felony assault charges. The bodybuilder, clad in a white tank top, blue jeans and black boots, declined to comment
Starting point is 01:35:32 after being released on her own recognizance. The fuchs' Rupp and Ronane were charged with misdemeanor assault and released with a desk appearance ticket, Cop said. Holy fucking shit. That's a fascinating description of a wardrobe too. I'm sure it didn't look near as normal as that sounds. No, because her in a tank top is gonna- Giant tank top, huge fucking boobs. Huge shoulders and boobs and arms coming out of it.
Starting point is 01:35:59 I mean, Jesus Christ. She looked like a wrestler. Yeah, she looked like Hulk Hogan from the back probably. You know what I mean? Like early years Hulk Hogan before he was chubby. So that's how that goes. Now this is all at the San Gennaro feast. It's very sad.
Starting point is 01:36:15 She goes home after that. She gets a rain. She didn't even get a chance to eat her fucking hero. She had a veal parm that she got nothing of. This is fucking sad shit. It's very, very sad. She depresses her, honestly. It depresses her a little bit. She's sitting around in the house,
Starting point is 01:36:29 and people starting shit with her, and cops taking her down and all that. And then. Dreaming about the glory days of porn. Dreaming about the glory days of porn, and also delicious Italian food is also what she's dreaming at. And that must summon something up from the heavens,
Starting point is 01:36:43 because there's a knock on the door, and it's my grandma. Oh, look at her, she's dreaming at and that must summon something up from the heavens because there's a knock on the door and it's my grandma oh look at her she's back it's Italian grandma and she says ma how is it you've come to arrive here ma why why you come here ma I see yeah they call you man okay but you see I I have different name for you I I call put on is mainly because You go it's spank. What's the spank these bitches? But why you spank the bitches? Why for why why you do that? You bite you do bite the copy you spank. No, it's no good for me I you know, I can't anymore with you. I'm sorry. I got you
Starting point is 01:37:29 No, you're not the not even shiny like skin of the seal. I can't Poof and then in a in a cloud of homemade cavatelli and tomato sauce. She's gone and Nicole's very confused She tried to bite her but grandma's quick. She's quick and also she has a knife, so Nicole knows not to fuck with grandma. Grandma's like, I cut you. That's it. I had no fight with you. I cut. That's it.
Starting point is 01:37:52 So, wrestling fans apparently, this is funny, there's different articles about when she got arrested. And they said, wrestling fans were split on Bass's arrest. Here is a 14-year-old wrestling fan named Natasha Rodriguez of Manhattan while sitting in the WWF Cafe in Times Square, which never a thing is more dated anything to a particular time than sitting in the WWF Cafe in Times Square. Yes, they had a wrestling cafe in Times Square. That was back when back when ESPN had restaurants, remember? That was back when any brand that was popular, you just stick it on a restaurant and it was
Starting point is 01:38:31 good. She said, quote, it's typical. It would be just like her. How do you know? How do you, you're 14. I watched her on wrestling and that's what she was like on there. A 14-year- old so familiar with her. Yep. And then finally John Martino, a 21 year old of Locust Valley, Long Island, he insisted,
Starting point is 01:38:52 he said quote, she's a good wrestler and a very nice person. And then Angelo Landoli, 14 years old from Cranford, New Jersey said this is a this guy has a huge he was 14 then which means 24 years ago so he's 38 now this guy's a fucking nightmare on the internet a fucking nightmare on yes quote I think it's a lie it didn't happen the entire Italian American fucking community of New York watched her bite a cup. I think it's a lie. It didn't happen. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Sorry. Never mind. I am just blowing the moon landing. You know exactly who that guy is on the fucking internet. Exactly. That guy's a guy who goes COVID wasn't real. He's that guy. It wasn't even a real thing.
Starting point is 01:39:42 Never mind anything else. It didn't even exist. Never happened. Never happened. It's't even a real thing never mind anything else. It didn't even exist never happened never had it's not even a real disease December 8th, which I don't give a fuck what your thoughts are but the fucking disease existed And if you don't post that on the internet don't post that on the internet December 8th 2000 She's having some problems. This is from the time times ledger Nicole bass giant woman wrestler, is in very poor shape.
Starting point is 01:40:06 What? Okay, that's a weird opening line. She is hospitalized with a serious case of pancreatitis. What? An often fatal disease. It was first thought to be a very bad case of the flu. Worse, because, and I'm throwing this in, because she is a wrestler and all the other things she does,
Starting point is 01:40:24 they go on to say worse, she has no health insurance and faces- Oh, I remember this. Lengthy hospitalization. Fans can send cards and greetings or small donations to help her and they have a PO box in Middle Village here you can send it to. She's back by March though, so she must be okay.
Starting point is 01:40:42 Yeah. By March 2001, she's wrestling for CWF for the women's title where she's winning the title defeating little Jean and Tracy Taylor. In three months she's wrestling? Three months she's back in the ring. So that was December 8th, 2000. By March 23rd, 2001 she's defending her title. So June 12th, 2001 there's a plea deal here via the New York Post, we'll get this, says
Starting point is 01:41:05 the world's largest female bodybuilder pleaded guilty yesterday to disorderly conduct, bringing to a close her bizarre little Italy cop biting incident. Nicole Bass said as she walked out of the courtroom, quote, it goes away. Okay. A former wrestling superstar is a frequent guest on the Howard Sterns show where she took a DNA test. She'll now have a misdemeanor record, but will serve no jail time under the plea deal
Starting point is 01:41:32 reached just as a Manhattan criminal court judge was set to begin a jury selection. The conviction would have meant up to a year in jail for Bass. Cops said Bass displayed chompians-in-ship form last year. Chompy-in-ship form? Chompy-in-ship, that's the New York Post for you. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:49 Yes. Punny cunts. Punny cunts they are. Throw a little pun in there about a championship and a bite, hell yeah. Every once in a while one'll be funny. Yeah. But most of the time they're just terrible.
Starting point is 01:42:01 Chompy-in-ship is not funny. The one that was funny, and we still have it, is Sarah bought it because it was so funny. It was when, not that what was happening was funny, the headline was funny. It was kids on Long Island. There was like a rash of high school kids that were fucking going around doing Nazi shit like heiling, heil Hitlering around the hallways and yelling at Jewish kids. And it's, the headline was, the kids are all right, which was fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 01:42:24 You were taking a sip when I said that. the kids are all right, which was fucking hilarious Yeah, sorry here you were taking a sip when I said that we got the kids are all right. I was like, all right That's a funny fucking headline you know, that's because puns are stupid because It's the lowest form of comedy because yes what dads do to try to make their children because the dad wants to say something dumb And and offensive but he can't can't because kids are in the room So we try to dumb it down to them You can't say the kids are all right to an eight-year-old and have them understand what they want that mean shit No, see that's why that one's a funnier one because at least you have to have some historical knowledge
Starting point is 01:42:58 It's not right play on a word. You gotta get yeah Comedy works as a levels thing level one is puns. It's the whatever Easiest thing is if something sounds likeizz, you say it's jizz. You know what I mean? It's the very, anybody could fucking do it. And that's if you're at a blue collar job, there's one asshole who never shuts the fuck up and constantly has puns and thinks they're hilarious
Starting point is 01:43:19 and laughs his ass off at his own bullshit. But it keeps him out of HR. Yes. Then there's second level comedy, which is like open mic shit, which is like lame joke. Then the third level is the ones where like a professional comedian will dig further and go that's cheap, that's not good, this is where it is down here. Most people don't dig that far. Those are the ones that get you fucking done for your life. So they said that it's, her lawyer said that he'd been prepared to show jurors that Bass
Starting point is 01:43:51 was no biter. They said it's far more likely that you get teeth marks on your knuckles from punching someone in the mouth than from getting bit. That's a good point. So that's a good point. So that's what they were going to try to do. I've got a scar. Oh, God. Yeah, Jesus. I have a bunch point. So that's a good point. So that's what they were going to try to do. I've got a scar. Oh, God, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Jesus, I have a bunch of them from that. I got one from punching my brother in the fucking mouth. Oh, none of mine are from family. Yeah, we're trash. We fight others. Yeah, for your family. Yeah, yeah, that's what, yeah. Our family teams up and like, yeah, white trash fights each other.
Starting point is 01:44:23 We fight our family and then we don't talk to each other ever again. Yeah yeah we do other we do other shit we were watching Dexter and after the Trinity killer kills Rita there, spoiler alert if you haven't seen Dexter, after he kills Rita there and then he wants to you know he's pissed off and I was like imagine if somebody killed you. I was like imagine if somebody killed you I was like imagine Like to said to Sarah. I was like just imagine how how we would hunt somebody for that like And I named like all my cousins that would help and she's like oh they would absolutely Help hunt I said they would totally help me kill somebody for it. My family would just be thrilled
Starting point is 01:44:57 They don't have to buy another Christmas gift for something like oh Scratch her off Thanksgiving. She ain't coming That's one portion portion we don't have to buy Jesus September 11 2002 female wrestler pins hope on court is from the daily news get ready for smackdown in Brooklyn Federal Court exclamation point fucking a in this corner coming in at six foot two two hundred thirty pounds his bodybuilder Nicole Bass. In the other corner are Bass' ex-bosses at the World Wrestling Federation, now known
Starting point is 01:45:31 as World Wrestling Entertainment, who she charges sexually harassed and abused her. Scheduled to testify, WWE honcho Vince McMahon and a herd of wrestlers. Yesterday, lawyers for Bass and the WWE squared off before federal judge Nicholas Garofis in a battle over legal issues before jury selection. Although Bass had been assured by WWE executives that she would be treated like a professional athlete, the former finalist for Ms. Olympia bodybuilding title was subjected to numerous quote indignities during her five-month stint in 1999. That's wrestling. Did Vince shit in her mouth?
Starting point is 01:46:08 No, but I mean they play pranks. They, yeah, peed on her. I believe it now. She charges that the female wrestlers were accosted in their locker rooms while undressed or coming out of the show by male WWE or out of the shower by mail WWEs and officials which has happened that's true it's fucked up bass said that during a show in Florida a male wrestler called her mister and later when her back was turned graphically simulated a sexual act directed toward her buttocks he do you know behind her yeah he acted like he
Starting point is 01:46:43 was fucking her in the ass. A week after the Florida incident, Bass claims she was sexually assaulted by WWE manager Steve Lombardi. What? The Brooklyn brawler? Okay. Steve Lombardi's worked there since like 1983 and he was a guy who is known for, Jesus Christ, this is crazy crazy but he's a guy that's known for being hmm how do I put this okay no no Terry Garvin is an office guy who was known as a who was known as a guy who would fuck talent uh-huh. Male talent. Yeah. And they made fun of, like it was such a known thing that Steve Lombardi was fucking, no, was doing what he was do, letting Terry Garvin do what he wanted to him so he could be in the WWE. That they used to make jokes about
Starting point is 01:47:40 it on commentary. There's house shows that have Steve Lombardi on them wrestling and they're talking about, oh he's a new guy. And there's one where Vince McMahon's like, yeah, yeah, he's from the Terry Garvin School of Self Defense he went to. But saying it 100% serious, like people think that's a thing, but all the wrestlers know what he's talking about. And he says, yes, a lot of, and Lord Alfred Hayes jumps in and he goes, yes, a lot of go behind techniques and a lot of defensive from behindes jumps in he goes yes a lot of go-behind techniques and a lot of defensive from behind techniques you learn in the Terry Garvin School of Self. They're just saying this guy fucks them in the ass on television and it was
Starting point is 01:48:13 nobody knew what they were talking about until later so that's pretty funny so I had no idea that Steve Lombardi even was interested in women but aboard a flight to England for a No Mercy tour, she further charges that at another show, she was bashed over the head with a real guitar instead of a gimmicked one that was supposed to break apart easily on impact. That's a common thing, because Jake the Snake Roberts claimed that he became a drug addict because Honky Tonk Man hit him
Starting point is 01:48:39 in the head with a guitar. Meanwhile, he was a crackhead for years before that. And there's a difference between being hit with An acoustic guitar versus I don't know like a fucking key tar. Okay. Yeah like a Gibson like no No, it's an acoustic guitar and Jeff Jared It's his gimmick and honky-tonk gimmick before that and they're they're gimmick like a motherfucker of these guitars They go in with a fucking razor blade and cut it all up so when it hits you it explodes. You're not actually doing it.
Starting point is 01:49:07 But it still it hurts a little bit. All the guys say you feel it but it's nothing horrible. But she says that they didn't gimmick it and later on all the wrestlers are like it's a fucking absolutely gimmick. That's bullshit. WWE lawyer Jerry McDivitt argued that the crass hijinks were quote all part of entertainment clearly protected by freedom of speech. How the fuck is sexual harassment part of entertainment protected by freedom of speech? And the alleged freedom of speech to say I'll tongue fuck your ass. I'm gonna pretend
Starting point is 01:49:37 to hump you from the back. That's odd speech. I mean it would be freedom of speech if the government was telling you you couldn't show that on TV That would be a freedom of speech issue, but or if the government's arresting is private. We're doing that's different. That would be a free That's different. Yeah people job is shutting you filing I get I get very annoyed when people mix ups when they say freedom of speech and they mean Consequences of speech there's different things freedom of speech means you literally consequences of speech. There's different things. Freedom of speech means you literally won't be thrown in jail for what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:50:09 There's nothing in the Constitution that says everyone won't treat you like a cunt because you're a dick and you said some dumb shit. That's not in there. There's nothing in the Constitution that says call a black guy the N-word and he doesn't get to punch you in the fucking mouth for it. That's part of it here. McDevitt also claims the guitar attack was done by a female wrestler who quote didn't get the stunt right. Yeah. Okay. Now
Starting point is 01:50:31 September 18th 2002, WWE is saying that this is all bullshit. Obviously here they said dressed immurely in a black jacket and below the knee skirt. The 6 foot 2, 230 pound bass listened impassively as the WWE lawyer Jerry McDevitt trashed her as a no talent. Wow, blasted her as a no talent. McDevitt said, some people don't make it and end up bitter, and I'm afraid that's what this case is about. She had very limited wrestling skills She was counseled to get better at her craft and she didn't do it Yeah, now I guess her lawyers here said there's a huge difference between Conduct that was scripted and what happened the sexual harassment she experienced was not part of any script
Starting point is 01:51:21 Makes sense So they say the next up a few days later, wrestlers teary tale of groping is a headline from the daily news. They say big girls do cry is the first sentence. Jesus. New bodybuilder Nicole Bass got weepy at her sexual harassment trial yesterday as she described how she was allegedly fondled on a plane by a veteran grappler turned groper. Oh boy, that must be talking about Lombardi. Bass took the witness stand in federal court to testify how life for her in the world wrestling entertainment circuit was a nightmare of loudish behavior. She became teary-eyed and sniffled loudly when asked about a flight in the spring of 1999 to Manchester, England, where she and other wrestlers were scheduled to perform in No Mercy.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Bass alleges that longtime WWE employee Steve Lombardi, who has wrestled for 20 years under various names including the Brooklyn Brawler, Abe Knuckleball Schwartz, put a move on her during the flight that was clearly foul. As what it says, she said Steve Lombardi, reeking of alcohol, first tried to impress her with flirty lines such as make a muscle and feel my chest. That's wow okay. Then as Bass reached over her head to stuff a large duffel bag in the over hair had been, she testified Lombardi moved in from behind and grabbed her breasts. Oh, can't do that. I was shocked, she said.
Starting point is 01:52:50 I was pressed up against the galley wall and he was pressed up with me with pressed up pressed up with his groin grinding against me. I smacked him and pushed him off me. No one has ever in my whole life grabbed me like that ever. That I believe. I absolutely believe that because he'd be terrified. He'd be like, this bitch is gonna knock me out if I grow up her.
Starting point is 01:53:13 And also, I don't know if you can't. I don't know if very many people are capable of doing that. Yeah, that's, wow, you'd have, that's balls. Lombardi shook his head in the courtroom as Bass testified that he later threatened that if she reported the incident, she would get hurt in the ring, like he'd tell someone to hurt her. Bass also talked on the stand about other experiences during the five months on the
Starting point is 01:53:32 wrestling circuit and described her role as bodyguard to Sable here. Sable was what WWE termed eye candy, Bass said. She was very beautiful, but she couldn't take as many bumps as me. Yeah, she's not gonna... Sable didn't get her ass kicked in there all the time bumping around. Bass said it was common for male wrestlers like Triple H and Big Show to barge into the women's locker room without knocking while she was wearing only a bra and panties. She also disputed last week's testimony by Vince McMahon that she couldn't cut it as a wrestler
Starting point is 01:54:04 because she had two left feet. Now, a it as a wrestler because she had two left feet. Now a lot of wrestlers said she had two left feet. That's a common phrase. She insisted she was a quick learner at WWE training camp where wrestlers are taught the fine art of falling body slamming opponents, pulling hair, and chain wrestling. It's a tango. It's not really fighting, she said. You have to keep practicing, Bass told her lawyer, or you get ring rot. Okay. Ring rot. Okay. Ring rot. Ring rot. September 25th, 2002, jurors yesterday got ringside seats
Starting point is 01:54:32 to wrestling's antics of angry Amazon Nicole Bass. Holy shit. Jesus, courtesy of video. They are just trashing her. Fuck it, yeah, the first sentence is always, she's hideous, anyway, here's her, what's happening. Juiced up TV announcers on the tapes roared that the six foot three, 230 pound bodybuilder
Starting point is 01:54:53 was the monster and a freak of nature and a walking, talking female nightmare. But instead of shining in the spotlight, Bass was typically seen on the tapes taking on minor roles in the raucous ring, including hapless bodyguard or girlfriend to famous wrestlers. Defense lawyer Jerry McDivitt claims Bass filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against the WWE out of bitterness over being fired because she bombed on TV. As McDivitt grilled the frizzy blonde Bass on the witness stand, he would frequently interrupt
Starting point is 01:55:23 her testimony with videos portraying her schmaltzy schtick. She could be seen on the tape cheering on her partner, then stoically entering the ring mid-match to hurl an opponent by the neck to the mat. At one point she climbs through the ropes to help her quote love interest superstar Val Venus, but mistakenly smashes a guitar over his head promoter said the manly voiced bass has had one scripted line to repeat What was it? Wow one scripted line to repeat quote. I want your slide trombone in my brass section In my brass section in my brass section. Now, right now. She would growl at Venus. Brooklyn federal judge Nicholas Garafelis pulled the plug on WWE Lawyers Video Show when they asked to play other tapes of
Starting point is 01:56:18 good wrestlers. The judge said, I'm not going to let you create a production to be shown in Brooklyn federal court. The next thing I know you not going to let you create a production to be shown in Brooklyn Federal Court. The next thing I know, you're going to be directing a steel cage in here. Next thing you know, it's going to be a fucking, literally a zoo in a wrestling match. An actual wrestling match and possibly some slide trombones in my brass section. Yes. Well, it may never know.
Starting point is 01:56:41 She said she feared retaliation after the Lombardi incident. She said she was threatened to be dropped on her head in the ring if she told anyone But under questioning Bass admitted her feet never left the ground in any of her televised matches No, she wasn't getting body slammed. What that wasn't happened pick her up. That's it Yeah, other than the guys there's not gonna be a lot of You know fucking Debra McMichael's not body slamming her the The massive body builder dissolved into tears as McDivitt grilled her on inconsistencies in her testimony. Bass admitted on the witness stand that her former lawyers artificially pumped up an earlier
Starting point is 01:57:15 version of her lawsuit, inflating her income and demanding an excess of $120 million in damages. Bass claims that during her four months as a quote superstar wrestler for WWE, she was repeatedly subjected to unwelcome sexual advances and intrusions into the locker room. Bass added that she was horrified and disgusted when wrestler Shawn Heartbreak Kid Michaels once called her Mr. during a live spot in which she acted the part of a bodyguard to female wrestler Sable. And that's some shit Michaels would do on his own on TV because he was just, he was
Starting point is 01:57:48 a giant asshole, a gaping fucking pulsating asshole and no one disagrees with that. Even his friends at the time were like, he was a huge dick back then, huge dick. Now here's Val Venus on her lawsuit because I looked it up, I found a shoot interview where he's talking about this and he said he was super pissed at her for filing it For no other reason that other than he had to come and testify on his day off And he's like you don't get a lot of days off back then you get like one day off every month or two and I Gotta fucking spend it in court with this shit. He was pissed. He said that they talked about her getting hit with an quote un-gimmick guitar and he
Starting point is 01:58:33 says that she didn't have any issue with the guitar and she didn't say anything about it until the court case. He said I never heard a word about the guitar her until then. He says quote, they were erroneous charges and she was just looking to get money. One thing that amazed me and kind of disappointed me and that was she was always really cool and always seemed like she wanted to learn but the reality is the extent of her athleticism was lifting iron and dieting. That was what she was good at. She had two left feet in the ring.
Starting point is 01:59:01 She just couldn't get it. Some people just don't get it and as much as I tried to work with her to see her go from every moment knowing her super nice person to the way she comes across trying to learn it. But then in court, I'm on the stand and she's sitting right across from me. Never once did she look me in the eye. To me it was like, okay, I know where this woman's integrity is at. It's in the can can deep in the garbage can Right up her own can and she's trying to say that they fired her for something and she couldn't get it and that's and that Figured her on that figured when when she was getting it
Starting point is 01:59:38 But the reason she got fired she was given every opportunity in the world to learn and it was just one of those things that wasn't Working out and on the stand they asked what were your reports to the office about her? She was given every opportunity in the world to learn and it was just one of those things that wasn't working out. And on the stand they asked, what were your reports to the office about her? And I'm just being honest and I'm telling them, I'm, you know, everything I can, she's got two left feet in there. A few other guys that were working with her too, same thing. They ended up getting rid of her, but she wouldn't even look me in the eye in court when she was so nice before.
Starting point is 02:00:03 And that's when I realized, okay, there's an integrity issue and she's using a company and lying in court, or she's suing a company and lying in court. So September 22nd, 2002, Daily News, a smackdown for good taste. What does that mean? There was talk about sushi and the gorilla stand, the gorilla position actually, not the stand,
Starting point is 02:00:23 sexual harassment and gender confusion. Not the usual fodder for Brooklyn Federal Court to be sure. No fucking shit. So they said that quote, you present yourself on national TV and radio shows as somebody who kind of enjoys the banter of being questioned whether you're really even a woman. That's what she's asked by Jerry McDevitt. In court? Wow. In court. She said, it is part of my schtick, yes. So they went on with that.
Starting point is 02:00:50 McMahon testified that the lawsuit alleging she was sexually assaulted and male employees routinely barged into the women's locker room is a smear on his family-owned business. My mom and pop, tiny little shop that is literally the only large wrestling company in the fucking world because we just bought the one that Ted Turner owned. We're just a little...
Starting point is 02:01:13 So meager. We're like a food truck really. I mean any loss of profit, we're done. We got diesel cost. That's it man. That's a serious charge from the maestro of raunchy storylines that have included gay-bashing, mock crucifixions and an 82-year-old woman bearing her breasts. A lawsuit like this is a dream for that company, said Shauna Sale, who co-authored Sex, Lies and Headlocks, the real story of Vince McMahon and the World Wrestling Federation. It confirms the WWE is raunch,
Starting point is 02:01:45 and everything that happens on camera is just like what happens backstage. So they're like, the WWE, this is just free advertisement for them. They love it. So yeah, October 9th, 2002, the Brooklyn jury throws out the sexual harassment case of Nicole Bass.
Starting point is 02:02:01 Said she sat- Threw it out. Calmly in federal court as eight jurors rejected her lawsuit Which allegedly which alleged she was subjected to all that bass sued for an unspecified amount in damages She said quote I stood up for women. I stood up to have a huge I stood up to a huge corporation I stuck to my guns. It was very much an ordeal to me to have to go through this process So she continued to make Appearances on Howard Stern forever. Yeah for a long she didn't stop till 2017
Starting point is 02:02:33 Yeah Okay, May 30th 2005. Here we go She's having some problems again. Apparently she got shit-faced and beat up her husband. Oh She beat up Bob? Yeah, well here it is 2005 her husband said quote she started to hit me I was afraid. Fair. Yeah. I said please I'm 57 I've had three heart attacks I can't afford this. Please I've had so many heart attacks. Please don't beat me up anymore you're huge. I can't afford this. Please don't beat me up anymore. You're huge. I can't afford this. I was afraid for myself. There's no way I could touch her. She's 230 pounds, six foot two. She knows how to box. She's a South paw and she's a pro wrestler.
Starting point is 02:03:18 So it's like Rocky. No one wants to fight us. Even if I was a boxer, she's a South paw. I'm worried about her left hook coming at me here. And she's a pro wrestler. There's no way I could go near her. She'd kill me. She said that, I guess she has pancreatitis still bothers her from time to time. He said she had trouble filling her prescription for Oxycontin. She's hooked on painkillers as her issue.
Starting point is 02:03:43 And this is in 2006? 2005? This is 2005. Oh boy. He said that doubled over in pain she began drinking heavily to self-medicate. He said she was drinking a half gallon of vodka a day. What? Oh no. Oh wow. How'd they handle a day?
Starting point is 02:04:02 Wow. He said she finally hit rock bottom and threatening to take a bunch of pills and slit her wrists. And her husband said, of course, she would never do either. She's a sweetheart. She wouldn't hurt anybody, but went on alcohol, dot, dot, dot. Anything's possible. He said that he was so worried about his wife that he made a move to call the cops,
Starting point is 02:04:21 and that's when she attacked him, which is a separate charge, too. You can't stop someone from calling for help, but that's what Alcoholics and pill poppers. Yeah, they'll do they'll attack. They will don't want you to intervene in there They don't they want to keep getting drunk. Yeah, this will fuck the whole thing up He said she actually punched me a few times threw about four shots into my chest. Oh about four shots into my chest. Oh my god. Four shots from her? Imagine she's a he and a giant jacked up dude who's 40 and beaten the hell out of a 57 year
Starting point is 02:04:50 old woman. They'd fucking put him in prison forever. This is crazy. He finally managed to call 911 he said and when police arrived, quote, she was as sweet as a lamb. Yeah. Turned it off like that. Just like these domestic violence calls you see it on cops or whatever they shop
Starting point is 02:05:06 I don't know what she's talking. She's in there acting crazy. I don't know what's going me while you go in there She's got blood all over her face. There's poles punched in the wall. I don't understand Wow Then this is fucking interesting He said that she accidentally bit an officer's hand on this occasion too. That's her go-to move. You go to her mouth, she'll bite your fucking hand.
Starting point is 02:05:31 As she fell on the stairs and he reached to help her. She wasn't charged for that because it was like in a melee. But this is the second time in four years that she's been charged with biting a cop's hand. Something tells me she bites cops' hands. That's just the way it is. But the police sources said that Bass was emotionally distraught when they arrived and a bit of the and bit the hand of the officer who was wearing leather gloves at the time and he wasn't injured. That's why they didn't charge her for it because there was no injury. So she was losing it. Bass was taken to Elmhurst Hospital Psychiatric Unit
Starting point is 02:06:06 where she's gonna be on a 72 hour hold. Wow, it was the second time she has bitten a police officer. They said she obviously pleaded guilty to disorderly conduct here. Okay, here we go, March 24th, 2010. All right now September 1999 is when she brought the lawsuit against the WWE with Steve Lombardi and all that October 8th 2002 after the trial the jury returned the verdict for the defendants obviously now
Starting point is 02:06:38 2010 she's proceeding pro se which means she's her own fucking lawyer Submitted a one-page handwritten submission to the court, which is also signed by Jonathan Lee Rich's Bernard Hopkins, that Bernard Hopkins, middleweight champion of the world, Bernard Hopkins, and Randy Macho Man Savage. In 2010? In 2010, yeah, this is fucking crazy. So yeah, the submission states that plaintiffs,
Starting point is 02:07:07 Savage, Hopkins and Riches seek to intervene in the case with newly discovered evidence. Specifically, they seek to intervention to present documents, exhibits and photographs to support Nicole Bass. Additionally, Riches and Hopkins claim that like Nicole, they were sexually harassed by the WWE. Who the fuck is sexually harassing Bernard Hopkins? Not me. He will beat the shit out of you. Are you kidding me? That's a bad motherfucker. Not only is he one of the greatest boxers of all time, he did fucking like eight years in prison too. That's a bad man. He's dangerous. Yeah. He's a bad man. People have asked us to
Starting point is 02:07:44 do his episode, but it's hard because he did his thing before he was famous and then just had a great career. So it's maybe it's a record reverse crime in sports. We'll do it. Eventually he's, we're not going to have many people left and we're doing him. So eventually we'll do it. Um, the proposed interveners claim to have newly discovered financial statements, which call into question the courts impartiality in the matter. Interesting. They argue that recusal is appropriate because of the court's alleged financial dealings with the WWF and they mean the court, they mean the judge there.
Starting point is 02:08:16 Along with attending their wrestling matches and purchasing WWE sportswear. This guy buys merch. Yeah, you can't be the judge if you buy merch of one of the fucking cloth, one of the people in front of you. If you were a judge and we were sitting there and you have a shut up and give me murder t-shirt and you're sitting next to somebody who you don't know, we're fucking winning probably. You know what I mean? Yeah, you got a Vince Mc, if you got an undertaker shirt on under your robe, there's a problem. Yeah, there's an issue. Because plaintiff and the proposed interveners appear pro se in this matter, their motion must be read liberally and interpreted to raise the strongest arguments it suggests.
Starting point is 02:08:49 That's the legal thing here. Therefore, the court construes the submission as two motions. First, Randy Savage, Bernard Hopkins, and Jonathan Lee Rich's move for intervention under federal rule 24 of the federal rules of civil procedure. Second, plaintiff moves for relief from judgment under Rule 60 on the basis of newly discovered evidence and the court's failure to recuse itself. So they're saying that, yeah, courts evaluating timeliness consider the totality of circumstances focusing on a variety of factors, the length of time the applicant knew or should have known of his interest in the litigation before making a motion,
Starting point is 02:09:29 prejudice to existing parties resulting from the applicant's delay, prejudice to the applicant if the motion is denied, and presence of unusual circumstances for or against the finding of timeliness. Okay. So they're talking about all of this shit here. They said the relief from judgment, I'm trying to find where the beef of it is, but I got a lot of legalese in here just for fun. Plaintiff also argues that relief from judgment is warranted because the court failed to recuse
Starting point is 02:09:55 itself from hearing the case. Now that is very interesting, I would say. They accused the court, the judge, of having financial dealings with the WWE here even assuming meaning buying tickets, buying sportswear, even assuming the plaintiffs unsupported allegations regarding the court's connections with the WWE were true. A reasonable person would not question the court's impartiality in this matter. Moreover, plaintiff points to no instances in which the court treated her unfairly or exhibited bias in providing over the trial.
Starting point is 02:10:28 Accordingly, her motion for recusal must be denied. Okay. So they say that their motions for intervention, meaning Savage, Hopkins and Rich's motion for intervention is also denied and plaintiff's motion for release from judgment is denied. So everybody fuck off is what they just said here And the WWE attorney when it came out McDevitt said that he didn't expect the appeal to go anywhere Because the case is now time barred under the applicable statute of limitations. So there you go That's how it works
Starting point is 02:11:00 The case was partially. Okay 2013 Bob dies. Oh, no Bob the suit Bob suitcase pimp fuchs dies. Did she she beat a heart attack into him? He died at age 64 Yeah, so young. Yep suffering from a heart condition. He died in his sleep. That's a great way to go Anyway, how did this guy do that made his heart? Fuck his heart was no good even though were their relationship was shaky at times Bob's death exacted a heavy toll on Nicole she was his nurse and caretaker for the last couple years and But though she mourned Bob Nicole maintained a positive attitude and would find a second life companion after falling in love with her business partner
Starting point is 02:11:40 Kristen Moroni wait Yes, really? Yes. She's into the she's a gal. She's into the ladies. Yeah she's into the ladies. Now I'm gonna give you a minute of this. Maybe. I mean who knows. I have for you. Oh she got a stand up. Would you like to hear her stand up comedy? Yeah. Any interest in that whatsoever here? When did she do stand-up? This is from November 9, 2014. And it's at the comic strip in New York, too. No kidding.
Starting point is 02:12:12 Roasting Howard Stern's The Elephant Boy. Oh, they had Elephant Boy get roasted? And he's sitting on stage. You see him up there? Oh, my. Yeah, there he is. Jesus. The beginning of it's her making fun of him for not being able to speak well, which is
Starting point is 02:12:27 Very fun. Let me make sure the volume So, yeah Nice! Everybody is saying, are you Nicole Bass? She's one of my dives, I mean my girlfriends. Clef, are those things real? She goes up and feels her tits. Nice! That's the one thing great about being a woman. I remember when I got my boot job, it was like I just wanted to go up and go over to the women and say, well, what do they feel like if you get breast implants?
Starting point is 02:13:09 I got mine pierced. Did you get yours pierced or did you just spill the clit? What? Just spill the clit. What the fuck is going on? Rich gets upset because I'm always stealing his boyfriend. I mean, I don't know what to say, really. I just expect to come on stage at the infamous comedy club.
Starting point is 02:13:31 That's for comedy strip. Uncanny comedy comedy strip. Comedy club. Fuck you, fuck your family. So many trademarks and whatnot that go around. This is a mess. I have my first date that I have had since my husband passed. And actually, I'm kind of happy that she passed because he's
Starting point is 02:13:54 not going through any suffering anymore. But also, I get a free pass. He's not to see this. To get married again. Holy cow. It's like, honey, make me this. Honey, clean this. Do that. In fact, come on. I'm going to read you some of the comments by the way. 50th birthday and he was really upset. Okay. Oh boy. That's about, you get the idea.
Starting point is 02:14:26 Yeah. I'm going to read you some of the comments by the way. Oh boy. She's got sweet tits, dude. They're fake, yeah. Here is one. She's actually really funny. I'd hire her to perform at my comedy club any day.
Starting point is 02:14:40 Nicole should consider this as a new career move. Who wrote that? What are you talking about? Who wrote that? Some dipshit. Another one here. Carrot Top sure looks weird these days, that's pretty fun. Wow. Wow, she's so funny.
Starting point is 02:14:58 What was, was there a, did I miss a punch line? There is no jokes, even in the beginning there's no jokes. There's a bunch of them. Herman Munster laughs, somebody comments, there you go. Yeah, that's... A bunch of people go, she's funny, she should get into comedy. What the fuck is going on?
Starting point is 02:15:18 That's terrible, she went up there and rambled for fucking seven minutes and left. That's not comedy. So I mean, it's comedy. With hard nipples, hard nipples, blasting through a tight dress. You could see the whole, areola and everything. How's there areola so hard?
Starting point is 02:15:33 That's what I mean. It's right there popping. I don't think I've ever seen the whole circle. It's one thing to suck at wrestling and go home. It's another thing to suck at comedy because you knew you sucked at comedy and there was nobody else up there to help cover it up. And there's a sign right behind you telling you where you are. She said, yeah, comedy
Starting point is 02:15:50 strip, the comedy club, comedy club, comedy strip, iconic comedy strip. Yes. I'm fucking believable. She's going to feel bad. And she's a mess. I mean, yeah, I mean, this now her husband's dead he had to go through some stuff all this stuff. I mean honestly Jimmy I feel bad for all these people. How many are there? But not nearly as bad as I feel for Nicole Bass research manager healthcare public equities and New York New York. Nicole Bass, restaurant and real estate investor, owner-operator at Summit Zero, chief growth officer at South Oats Holdings in Salida, Colorado. We got her and Nicole Bass, a senior attorney at King & Spalding.
Starting point is 02:16:38 I'll defend your balls. I'll defend your balls. Well, her practice focuses on electronic discovery issues, particular discovery of your balls, particularly in with respect to the representation of clients matters and matters of product liability and governmental investigations. Okay. June 25th, 2015. Here she comes. She is arrested again here in Queens for trying to just steal shit from a supermarket. Oh she's so broke she's stealing groceries. Yep police said they arrested her around 8 p.m. after she packed up a bag and a shopping card at the stop and shop with $1,045 worth of groceries and fifty nine dollars worth of beauty supplies and left the store That's so much piled high. Yep
Starting point is 02:17:30 They said that uh, yeah, and it's not like you everyone isn't staring at her to begin with. Yeah, it's not like she's blending in She was stopped by the security She was stopped by the score store security guard 152 food items and 17 beauty items. She got the most, she's supermarket sweeping, man. Wow, she's loading it up, loading up meat and fish. Fish is expensive. She's going out to coffee, she got the diapers. Fuck yeah, she's like, I can do it.
Starting point is 02:17:58 Yeah, you gotta get the beauty stuff. That's where it is. Yeah. You gotta get hoses. Those hoses are like 30 fucking bucks. Throw the hoses in the car You stupid bitch. That's what husbands are yelling at their wives. I Love that fucking show. So um
Starting point is 02:18:12 She she is charged with petty larceny and criminal possession of stolen property And the prosecutor said if she stays out of trouble for six months, the charges will be dismissed. Oh, that's nice So they're giving her that cuz she had her psychiatric problems, obviously. She's had some issues. She here, one neighbor said, I know she's a little down on her luck right now. Oh, shit. It's just not like her, it's not.
Starting point is 02:18:37 It's really just too bad. I hope she gets everything straightened out. That's the thing. Everybody that dealt with her says she's a really nice person. No one that dealt with her is like, she's a fucking bitch and a prima. Everyone's like, she's a nice person and you feel bad for her because she can't be the person she wants to be. There's a reason Howard keeps people on this
Starting point is 02:18:56 show and first is they go along to get along. Good people that help create good radio, Howard keeps them around forever. To a fault too, because there are some that don't even have good, don't even make good radio, they're just, they're a nightmare listening to, but Howard likes them as people and he keeps them around. That happens. February 16th, 2017, her girlfriend, Kristen, posts a statement on Nicole's official Facebook page stating that Nicole has been hospitalized after being found unconscious at her apartment. Oh no. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:19:26 Later that day, she is declared to be medically brain dead following a heart attack. Wow. Yep. September, February 17th, the next day, they say she's not dead but will be taken off life support as new theories emerge. Oh, that is fucked up. Yeah. There's been a lot of comments from former wrestlers who
Starting point is 02:19:46 suspected that drugs have been involved in her medical issues which I mean I think she's been on I mean Oxy's for a long time she which is every other wrestler was James yep no shit yeah so they said a few days this is what they posted on her Facebook page they said a few days ago Nicole got very sick she was brought into the hospital and they did everything they could to help her. I've been sitting here with her in her room 24 seven since she got here, making sure she was being given the best possible care. Today we learn that there is nothing else that can be done. Nicole was an amazing woman.
Starting point is 02:20:20 Now we're into was. Strong not only on on the outside, but the inside as well. Beautiful soul and kind heart. Many people knew Nicole, but few ever got close enough to know the real woman that she was. I got to be one of those lucky few. And yeah, so they said that, yeah, well, I guess that they said that at first they said that before she passed, she had said was, but then they asked the girlfriend, she wasn't even dead yet. And she said that she thought of her as already gone because they told her there was nothing
Starting point is 02:20:49 else she could do. Heart attack caused all this and they said nothing else she could do. There's also questions though as to what caused the heart attack. Ex-PAC here, Sean Waltman, he said that he initially believed the medical issues might have been drug related. He noted that Bass had been having a rough time in life since the death of her husband. He said, I was making an assumption that maybe there were drugs involved and that's not a good assumption to make.
Starting point is 02:21:15 It's wrong. It's a pretty safe guess. If you're going to take a wild guess about someone in my industry dying, it's a pretty safe one to make. It's 80%. in my industry dying, it's a pretty safe one to make. She struggled, it's pretty, yeah, you're gonna, it's 80%, so. It's a better bet than most, yeah. Yeah, she struggled the past few years.
Starting point is 02:21:33 Her husband died and they had a really codependent relationship. She, they really needed each other. So, yeah, aside from confirming that she wasn't dead yet, the pro wrestling sheet noted that it isn't sure whether police have investigated what happened to her. Then on the 19th, they finally announced in the paper that she has died. And they start out with Nicole Bass, the Queens-born bodybuilder turned pro wrestler and Howard Stern whackpacker has died.
Starting point is 02:22:03 Nice. That is fucking crazy. So yeah, that's her. Now she is dead. She, what is, oh, oh, this is a different person. I'm sorry, nevermind. She laughed at herself, didn't mind being a part of the joke, a great spirit, as someone from the Stern Show said.
Starting point is 02:22:22 On her Facebook page, people shared stories about her and all this shit, and people liked her. Yeah. One person here, this is Kathleen Bernard, said, I met Nicole at a bodybuilding contest in New Jersey in the 1980s. I was so nervous to get up on stage, and she was so positive and supportive.
Starting point is 02:22:40 She cheered and clapped from the sidelines, and that gave me confidence to complete my routine. I liked her spirit and can-do attitude That's nice. That's very nice Another woman said they have I have absolutely no words I was privileged to know Nicole and her late husband Bob She was truly a soft beautiful soul and I smile whenever I think of her. I'm so sad to hear she's gone. So Yep, July 11th, 2023.
Starting point is 02:23:08 This is an excerpt from William Ginsberg article at prowrestlingstories.com here. And he says, over the years, I've gone to her lectures, wrestling appearances, autograph signings, and most everything in between. I even got her on a stage to do a stand up. This guy's responsible. She was a natural just being herself and the road trips were always a blast. Yeah, not a comedy. Are we there yet? Are we there yet? Are we there yet? She'd rib and torment whoever was driving and laugh that huge deep laugh of hers. Ho ho ho.
Starting point is 02:23:37 Ho ho ho. Eating in restaurants was always a production. She inevitably had some special food complex diet that she was following and had almost a doctor's knowledge of food, nutrition and the human body. Yeah, those bodybuilders are super fucking weird like that. He said, talked about them talking deep conversations. He said, she spoke of her hopes and dreams and how she wanted to be a role model and mentor to kids and her frustrations when that didn't quite fall into place. One conversation always stayed with me.
Starting point is 02:24:07 Evan, I'd love to come to your party, she confessed with a tinge of sadness in her voice, but I don't feel like being Nicole Bass tonight. Oh, Nicole. Yep. You see, when she walked out the door, she had to be on and everybody wanted that picture, that autograph, that Howard Stern anecdote, that little piece of her. And although she told me she loved Howard and his fans and generally took the jokes in stride, there were moments when the are you a man schtick wore on her.
Starting point is 02:24:33 To counter that, she just adored looking feminine and getting compliments on her appearance. It's not easy being different, she'd say in certain appearances. And I mean, yeah, she's fucking huge. They said like Dietrich Bader when Dietrich Bader dressed in drag in. Yeah, kind of. Yeah. You know what I mean, yeah, she's a fucking huge they said like Dietrich Bader when Dietrich Bader dressed in drag in in yeah Yeah, you know I mean she had that she just had a big jawbone outside of that She still looked like a woman those Jesus Christ. Those tits are incredible, man Here's a picture of them from the front they're very oh look at Jesus that's all titty That's all titty, man. Jesus.
Starting point is 02:25:06 That's all titty right there. So they said Nicole had mixed emotions about wrestling. They said one of the things was the trauma of being there the fateful night when Owen Hart died and being expected to perform. They said, in a fog after he had been wheeled right past her before having to walk through the curtains, they were the next match. So they were waiting, watching. Nicole deeply loved and ultimately became a caretaker for her older husband Bob, who
Starting point is 02:25:30 was also a unique and colorful, quite the colorful character. In his own way, he was her biggest fan, boasting of her trophies and awards, including winning the 1997 MPC bodybuilding championships. A former gym owner he'd boast, Nicole can bench 315 pounds, deteriorating for years from a heart condition. His passing hit her hard. And I think that's probably what it is here. They said that she'd have health issues,
Starting point is 02:25:57 she'd be on death's door, and then months later, she'd be in shape again. Like just snap right back to it. He goes on to say she was special, wonderful, street smart, both fun and ever so funny with the biggest of hearts to match her biggest of bodies. She brought an awful lot of people, happiness and laughs. I can still hear that big laugh of hers that made people's heads turn. I miss her every day. They were looking up like her net worth. She was stealing groceries. She has nothing.
Starting point is 02:26:27 Can't get enough Nicole Bass. Well, you can get an ECW Wrestling Magazine pinup, it was in the thing, of her with Jerry Lynn up on her shoulders in a fireman's carry. And she's way bigger than fucking Jerry Lynn. Jerry Lynn was a good wrestler been around for a long time. I mean look at the she looks she's Looks like so big he looks like a kid who's like fucking mom is throwing her throwing him up on her back That's six dollars and 29 cents you can get that for or a Nicole bass sign WWE Matt photo of This is a big one. What is this 1999? I guess she's in the ring. It's wow. It's got her I It's got her fucking her autograph. They want $300 our best offer for that. What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, that's fucking wild so either way oh quickly by the way, that's Nicole Bass. And very quickly, Jared Hayne there, the rugby player we've been going back and forth with played for the Niners. He will not stand trial for a fourth time in the rate.
Starting point is 02:27:45 It's three times he's been convicted and fucking appealed out. So they said I can't just do this on my imagine They said we've considered all the factors and it's fucking pointless now and we keep putting the same people through it. It's bullshit So there you go with it. He gets away with it. There you go everybody Well, we broke his balls for a while other than us. He gets away with it. So Yeah, he took a bit of a beating. So there you go Everyone there is Nicole Bass and a fucking very interesting story about honestly what seems like a very nice person. Yeah, I wish she was alive to talk about it and why do you keep biting people, Nicole? Yeah, that's your go-to move.
Starting point is 02:28:15 You can just rip them, rip their arms off. You don't need to bite them. So I'm looking forward to getting emails from my friend telling me great stories about her because I know he loved her. I know he did. Yeah, yeah. That's good to hear. So yeah, it'll be interesting to hear in the future.
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Starting point is 02:29:44 We're gonna do theme park disasters again. So popular, we got to do it quarterly because people fucking love it. Then for Small Town Murder, it's back again. It's been almost nine months, I believe, since we've done one. Prisoner dating game is back, baby. Let's line Jimmy up with felons from four young ladies, four young men. Only thing they have in common is they are violent fucking convicted felons who are currently incarcerated. He's gonna pick some and then we're gonna find out who the fuck they are and more importantly, what they did.
Starting point is 02:30:13 A lot of fun. Patreon.com slash crime and sports. And that's not all you get. You also get a shout out at the end of the show, which is right fucking now. Jimmy, hit me with the names of the people who would never, ever, ever, ever confuse our genders and cause us to bite them.
Starting point is 02:30:29 Hit me with them right now. This was executive producer Carol Braun, who did a road trip with Cross Country with us. You didn't know, but you went, James. That was fantastic. Thank you, Carol. We had fun, and thank you for stopping at McDonald's for me. I need a Big Mac sometimes.
Starting point is 02:30:41 Lovely. Thank you. Nikki Weed, happy birthday. Ape man says so. Happy birthday. He adores you. Joy Winters, I'll tell you more about that later. Thank you Joy, you're terrific.
Starting point is 02:30:54 Make sure to say that, because it didn't sound like it. They're like, oh boy, this crazy bitch anyway. Not her. Jagger Remini, thank you so much Jagger. And Franny and Oz, you're the best. I miss you so much. Thank you. Other producers this week are Janice Hill, Dubrovsko, wait, Dubrovko Zaha, for Donna. Oh, that's a donation for Donna.
Starting point is 02:31:15 I don't know how to say Dubrovko's name, and I apologize about it. Other producers continuing are Aaron Donaghan, Nicholas Hansen, Michelle, with no last name, Jessica Emilejankich. Oh, no way. Matt Dequette, Duquette. Gwen Harrison, Margaret Richardson, Mikaela, nope, yeah, Mikaela Rurek, is it Mikaela, it is Mikaela. Trier of Pods, Emery Delphi.
Starting point is 02:31:38 Anthony Gommair, Gommair, Gommair, maybe. Ruthanne Marcel, wrestling fan. Dylan, you should be happy this week, maybe. Ruthann Marcel, wrestling fan. Dylan Pellis. You should be happy this week, sir. Or ma'am. Who the fuck knows? Who knows? Dylan Pellis.
Starting point is 02:31:52 William Reed Keely with no last name. Andy Stevins, Katie Lynn Moore, Luna Mist, Candice Quinn, Suzanne Bee. Debbie with no last name. Christina Bolliard, Brandon, no, Brayden. Brayden Jenkins. Brayden! Sydney Wilhite. KC with no last name, Christina Bolliard, Brandon, no, Brayden, Brayden Jenkins. Brayden. Sydney Willhite.
Starting point is 02:32:07 Casey with no last name, Tom with no last name, Jenny Jones, probably not that one, but I wish. Maybe. What a show. God damn, it was a train wreck, and I loved every horrible minute of it. She was a decent comic in the 80s. Yeah, and she had that weird guy on the show
Starting point is 02:32:23 that fucked everybody, I forget his name. She had a guy who murdered somebody too on the show. Yeah, but there was a guy that was on several episodes and they dressed him as somebody else and gave him a different name and he fucked people all the time. Sydney Hollandeck, Kara Scott, Adam McCarthy, John Macal, Macalouf. Oh boy. EvolvedSquid, Shanna Johnson, Lindsay with no last name, Michelle Shump, Anne, Anne Warner Smith, Cecilia Ashbridge, Bad Wolf, Terry Kincaid, Martin Behrens, Chris
Starting point is 02:32:54 Bedmore, Carmel with no last name, Christina Blunt Jones, Chris Stone, Perry Holbrook, Laurel with no last name, Josh Gallup, Carly Smith, Summer Colangelo Keating, Krista Bax, Ressa Wilder, Rebecca Benai, Tara Kemp, Jessica Stewart, Dallas Johnson, Becca Kayla, Dice Up Games, Jamie with no last name, Katie Claridge, Big J Stutz, Courtney Johnson, Rocho. Rocho. Dallas Johnson sounds like a news reporter. Well, now take you to weather,cho. Dallas Johnson sounds like a news reporter. Dallas Johnson in the field getting pummeled by this hurricane.
Starting point is 02:33:29 He is the low man on the totem pole and he'd probably be fired and shipped off to Tampa next year. Up to you, Kiprota. We just hired him and he came in from Omaha. Come on. Courtney Johnson or show Dakota Williamson, Ryan Wisonant. Marianne would know last name I and S, the letters I and S, Scully with no last name, Andrew with no last name, Sandy with no last name, Ellen Hendricks,
Starting point is 02:33:51 Andrea with no last name, Fletcher Ames, Ashley Strigler, Maggie Gorshchukichka, Gorsi Zorgica, Curtis Long, Mike Jackson, Rebecca Grapevine, me, lifted and gifted, Patrick Deterding, Kristen Basden, Tina with no last name, Lexis Holting, Hugh Hoyting, Sam Farron, Nick Brooks, Leslie Loves to Laugh, Anastasia Wilson, Ryan Williams, Stephanie Mochella, Cheryl, Cheryl Murnane, Cheyenne Eckhoff, Laura Hanson, Anita Shea, Heather Webb, Mike Pepper, Carol, Carol Spike, Smitty with no last name, Jamie Robbins, Centauri Cetro, Jungle Fever, I don't like that, Dustin with no last name, Liss with no last name, not that I, I just don't like the words.
Starting point is 02:34:40 I get it, I get it. Shit. It's a movie. Yeah, it's a thing. And a song. Howie Cordoza, Jesus, God, right, I wish I didn it. I get it. I get it. Shit. It's a movie. Yeah. It's a thing too. And a song. Howie Cordoza. Jesus. God, right. I wish I didn't. All right. Megan Siler. Robin Jody Murrer? Oh, is that? No, it's not Murrer. That's somebody else. What was her name?
Starting point is 02:34:56 Remember Laura? Laura Murrer. Ah, there you go. Yes. Yes. All right. Maybe it's the same family. John Bryan Hall IV. Marty? Marty, Mary, Mary Bome, Austin Jones, Doug Archie K. Bettendorf, Bev with no last name, Victoria Melson, Burr Town, Rick Giuliani, ooh, damn it, that's tough, man. Alex Eicher, Krista Bax, I said that,
Starting point is 02:35:20 she donated both ways, or two times, thank you, Krista. Rebecca Kuspert. Nia Anthony, Maddie Mandi Ratner. Oh, hope you're not fucking family of that other. What's that? What was that guy's name? Ratner? That fucking monster? Yeah, what a piece of shit. All right, Michael Sly, Jordan Castaneda, Julie Nylander, Jessica with no last name, Mygen Amelio. Holy fuck, Brittany, Brittany Ann Nicole, Kevin
Starting point is 02:35:46 Danin, Rudy Levernchik, Riley with no last name, Gloria Santana Almorez, Kat Gray, Tim with no last name, Alan with no last name, Diane Borg, Morgan Marie Chaffee, Daniel Porter, Whiskey Biz, oh that's Bryce, Bryce, thank you, Mark Rouse, Trevor Dunn, Jeremy Thompson, B. Sobinski, Sobisinski, C. Note the Goat, Danielle, with no last name, Cheyenne Clark, Jessica with no last name, Alexis from Texas, because if you say Alexis Texas, that is a very different gal.
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