Crime in Sports - #52 - Couldn't Read The Warning Signs - The Untruthfulness of Dexter Manley

Episode Date: January 24, 2017

This week, we journey into a world of stupidity, lies, and most of all, cocaine. From being a champion, to ruining the lives of those around him, he ended up as low as a person could be. He l...et down family, friends, wives, team mates, fans, judges, and anyone else he may have come in contact with. This is truly a story about a person, never learning their lesson, as he goes from world famous, to illiterate, to homeless, and back and forth again... Not in that order. Sell your Super Bowl ring, embarrass your family, and run from the police with Dexter Manley!! Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: crimeinsports@gmail.comDonate on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:02:23 I had somebody tell us that we should watch a rugby game or a cricket game and just comment on it. Just comment on the silliness going on. Don't give a fuck. I watched enough rugby to get ready for that, and it was so terrible I couldn't fucking stand myself. It's not even terrible. I don't understand it, and I don't want to. That's the thing. That's the fun.
Starting point is 00:02:43 That's why they enjoyed it. That and us making fun of the Surrender Monkey French. That don't understand it. And I don't want to. That's the thing. That's the fun. That's why they enjoyed it. That and us making fun of the surrender monkey French. That's what's beautiful. Realizing that we don't really have that many French listeners. We say whatever the fuck we want about these people. We're always worried about offending somebody or whatever, but not on that one. We all hate the French. Let's throw it in there.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Fine. Beautiful country with shitty people. We love it. White flag waving sons of bitches. That was a crazy episode. A guy, if you didn't hear, he has a murder committed in front of 60 people. We love it. White flag waving sons of bitches. That was a crazy episode. A guy, if you didn't hear, he has a murder committed in front of 60 people. Just in broad, just there you go. Mark Session. In front of all of his friends. Not even strangers.
Starting point is 00:03:14 They might not know who he is. It was like, oh yeah. He was the guest of honor at the party that he decided to murder at. Assaulted the host's wife. Oh my goodness. In front of 60 people. Go back and listen to Mark Session from last week. It's fucking fascinating. Because it's wife. Oh, my God. That's fucking in front of 60 people. Go back and listen to Marc Cécile from last week. It's fucking fascinating.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Because it's wild. But this week, we got a pile this week. I can't wait. This is something else. A pile of shit? A pile of shit. I love it. A man who has just, he's a human roller coaster, this guy.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Human roller coaster. It's Dexter Manley. All right. Dexter Manley from the nfl dexter keith manly he was born not a junior oh that's good but there is a junior connection don't worry there'll be a junior don't you worry there's always one what do you think he's gonna name his kids let's be honest here come on the hubris so the hubris. So the insanity started on February 2nd, 1958 when Mr. Manley was born. That's his birthday.
Starting point is 00:04:10 That's his birthday. Right from there. And that's when it starts. It's like the Bad to the Bone song. As soon as he popped out, they knew it was over. He grows up in Houston, not a nice area of Houston. He talks about later when college coaches come to recruit him. And the college coaches pull up in limos and shit
Starting point is 00:04:27 because they want to show you how affluent the university is. You need to come there. And he was saying coaches like Bum Phillips and guys like that were getting out of their limousines, walking up to his shack, literally shack on blocks. On bricks. On bricks, on blocks in Houston. It's in the third ward of Houston,
Starting point is 00:04:44 which apparently wasn't a nice place to be back then. He gets into football early. He's a big kid. He grows up to be 6'3", 253. Wow. He's a big guy, and athletic as all hell. He was a really quick, really strong, really athletic freak of nature kind of guy. He tries to impress his father with football because his
Starting point is 00:05:05 father i don't know he wants to impress his dad he says he tells a story about you know he ate like a horse when he was a kid because he just wanted to get bigger and play football better and he said his dad would like buy meat and like chain the refrigerator up so he wouldn't just eat it all right away so that's the type of kid he's voracious appetite uh he comes home for school from school wanting a snack and he's gotta fucking pick a pad he's got to fucking pick a padlock to get a peanut butter and jelly. He's got to break out the bolt cutters to get over there. It's a terrible mess. Dad comes home.
Starting point is 00:05:30 He's just chewing on a T-bone in the corner. It's raw. He doesn't know how to cook. No, that's what I mean. He's like 14 years old. He thought, you know what? We probably would have gone in there because he's rabid for everything, as we're going to find out here. His appetites know no bounds.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Awesome. No bounds. His mother was an alcoholic. pretty bad alcoholic, too. One of them usually is. Had some health problems also. Brother was a drug dealer who was killed. Oh, my God. So his brother died in the streets as a drug dealer in this area.
Starting point is 00:05:55 He had a half-brother who also went in and out of prison for, you know, robberies and this and that. In second grade, he was left back and put into a class for, quote, the retarded. Oh, way to go with your political correctness, Houston. Well, it's 1964, so retarded was actually a kind term then. It was better than fucking doy-doy,
Starting point is 00:06:16 which is what they would have called it before. It was better than fucking dummy. That's what I mean. They likely had school for dummies written up there and the president of the school was like, let's not do that one. It's just scratched out, but you can still see the outline for dummies written up there in the president's school. It's like, let's not do that one. It's just scratched out, but you can still see the outline of dummies. What if we call them retards?
Starting point is 00:06:30 Yeah, that's good. Let's do it. So he's school for the retarded. Interesting here. As he grows up and plays football and becomes a big star high school athlete playing football, he's illiterate. Of course. He never learned to read. He said all he remembers from grammar school is playing with blocks because they put him
Starting point is 00:06:47 in special ed and didn't do anything. Back then, they didn't. The spelling blocks? Just blocks, not even spelling blocks. Really? Yeah. Shit, I wish it was the spelling blocks. He might have known some letters at that point, but he doesn't know anything.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And he said that they just basically leave you behind in special ed back then, which is what I've heard. Yeah. Now, he would copy off people in high school or, you know, beg teachers or use football as a leniency tool, or he would cry to teachers saying that he tried to do this, but he could, but he never said he couldn't read. He couldn't tell anybody. He said he just, there wasn't something he would want to tell anyone.
Starting point is 00:07:18 There's some shame involved in that. A lot of shame, especially if you're a big popular athlete and you say, oh, we can't read now. We're going to win state this year. Not if you can't read Catcher in the rye you fuck and the dumb athlete stereotype I figured was something he was trying to avoid read cat in the hat
Starting point is 00:07:31 that's complicated for him I think hop on pop we'll go back a little here one fish two fish what comes after two you figure it out here go sit in the corner and figure that out Dexter he would have friends or girlfriends write his papers for him. Despite all of this, he receives 37 scholarship offers.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Wow. Yeah, and from huge schools, too. He's a monster. Bam and Auburn, all those guys. He ends up choosing Oklahoma State. Wow. Oklahoma State, which Oklahoma State recruited heavily in Texas back then, so that's no shock there. Now, he gets a six on his ACT exam, which is like an entrance exam.
Starting point is 00:08:08 The average score is 18.2. He got a 6. 6, which honestly is pretty impressive considering that he can't read shit. Honestly, that's probably just doing C, C, C, C, C, C, C. We'll get you a 6 because the average is 18.2. So that's average. That's not great. He did abacadabra.
Starting point is 00:08:26 That's it. They say, I remember it was a social studies teacher in high school telling us that, that if you basically do C, C, C, C, C, C, you'll always get like a 40. Really? He said, yeah, you'll always end up getting like a 40. So I was like, I think maybe that was his strategy. Ball Cs or spell his name. Where's the X, damn it?
Starting point is 00:08:43 Oh, shit, I don't even know how to spell my name. Never mind. He becomes a marketing major in school. What? You don't need to read to be a marketing major. You just go out there and be full of shit and you got it. Perfect. Hey, look at you. You're a college graduate. Full of shit. Well, I mean, he got into college, so he's clearly full of shit.
Starting point is 00:09:00 He's clearly full of shit. He can't even write, so marketing's perfect. Perfect. He says in their own words here about his education and about his lack of any kind of skills or proficiency in anything, he says in their own words, quote, In special education classes, you're going to move on. They knew I couldn't read. I knew I couldn't read and write. But in seventh grade, you don't tell that to your friends.
Starting point is 00:09:19 By tenth grade, I look at my situation. The only thing I had going was football, and it was what I wanted. So if I go back and tell them I can't read, next thing you know, I'm too old to play. That's a smart kid. It is smart. Who can't fucking read and write. Yeah, he's like, I got to get it right. Well, I mean, think about it.
Starting point is 00:09:31 That's every day he's got to get it right. You know what that is? That's street smarts is what that is. That's just fucking survival skills. Yeah. And it's every day since he was little, since, you know, about third grade when they expect everyone to know what they're doing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:42 He's been lying ever since. That's third ward street skills. That's all that is. That's all it is. I feel like he doesn't even have to know what they're doing. He's been lying ever since. That's third ward street skills. That's all that is. I feel like he doesn't even have to think about this. No. This just comes to him to hide the reading thing. That's how you survive. That's like a serial killer.
Starting point is 00:09:52 He's like, no, no, I don't have any rope in my car. I don't know what you're talking about. Black gloves. Never seen them. Never saw them at all. So he goes to college at Oklahoma State. He said Oklahoma State knew he couldn't read, which is amazing. State. He said Oklahoma State knew he couldn't read, which is amazing. We have a guy, an academic advisor at Oklahoma State University named Dale Rourke. And whoa, this guy blows kind of the lid
Starting point is 00:10:13 off this whole thing. And and he said the way he says this is so irritating because he says it like, hey, we were like, yeah, we didn't know he could read. But, you know, everybody fucks each other over, basically. Here's the quote here. Quote, we knew he couldn't read a textbook. I agree we exploited Dexter for four years, but he exploited us. Coaches further their careers with players like Dexter, and players, in turn, groom themselves for pro ball. He did it first? Fuck you, man.
Starting point is 00:10:38 One difference. Yeah. You're making money off of him. Absolutely. While you're putting a kid out there who has no business being in school. Rather than trying to teach him to read, you're just passing him through and throwing him out in the field so you can get money in glory. Except in those paychecks. That's some silver-haired, middle-aged white man shit if I've ever heard it.
Starting point is 00:10:55 That's exactly what that is. That's textbook. That is textbook. We've never had anyone so silver that they had somebody fucking illiterate and still exploited them and then said, well, he exploited me too. Whoa. Holy shit is that silver. What a complete asshole then said, well, he exploited me too. Whoa. Holy shit. Is that silver? That's silly.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Asshole. So yeah, I don't like that guy. I like to just. Like the honesty. But the two wrongs make a right thing that it's just bullshit. The whole thing is. You're a multimillion dollar huge institution with boosters and backers and federal funding and state, but all this type of shit.
Starting point is 00:11:23 And this is some kid from the ghetto who can't read. you're gonna fucking say well he used us he's just trying to survive and make the best out of his situation that's it you're making the best out of the best fucking situation yeah you're taking him pretending he's fine and moving on it's unbelievable uh now at this point too there's some people who are kind of speaking out against this there's a woman named dr jan kemp and i love her i'm in love with Jan Kemp from the University of Georgia. She spoke about not teaching athletes enough and was fired for it. Really?
Starting point is 00:11:52 And she had some salty shit to say about that. I hope so. She said, quote, envious people who reduce the athlete's power by perpetuating the stereotype of inadequate, just a walking checkbook. Once a kid shows money-making potential, the money sharks swarm in a frenzy, wearing the hats of inadequate, just a walking checkbook. Once a kid shows money-making potential, the money sharks swarm in a frenzy, wearing the hats of agents, boosters, and recruiters.
Starting point is 00:12:10 And silver fucking toupees. Yeah, they're not wearing a hat. They're wearing silver hair on top of their head, ready to make money off you. Oh, she's great. And brush your indiscretions over that. She knew about silver-haired middle-aged white men well before we got into this game, Jimmy. Well before. She had it clocked.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Clocked. So in college, there's problems uh with the coach the coach there sucks his first couple years he's fired and they hired jimmy johnson is that right jimmy johnson jimmy johnson from the dallas now from the cowboys from the dolphins from all these this nfl network fucking watch the super bowl he'll be there miami university national championships jimmy johnson's a big deal. And the Dolphins, too, right? The Dolphins in the late 90s. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:47 After Parcells, I think. Right. Yeah, after Parcells. He becomes – so, yeah, the team, when he comes in, when Jimmy Johnson gets there, they get better, obviously, but they also get a shitload of NCAA violations because that's what Jimmy Johnson does. Look at Miami. He basically comes in for a short period, builds it up completely illegally, and then
Starting point is 00:13:07 runs away as it burns to the ground behind him. See you around. Bye. He's the original Pete Carroll. Yeah, he just listens. He hears screams behind him and he's just running. I don't hear anything. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I can't hear it over fucking Hay Sloopy from the fucking band. It's okay, man. So part of these NCAA violations, there's no shocker that they got in trouble for this because Dexter got a new car out of this deal. And he says he remembers getting the new car because he said he walks off the practice field and there's a booster there that gave him a set of keys and
Starting point is 00:13:35 said, come sit in the car. And he sat in the car and it was a brand new car and he said, this is the nicest. I've never been in anything brand new before. This is worth more than the fucking house that I lived in my whole life. He grew up in in the retard class living on a fucking house on blocks in the ghetto with a brother getting shot in the streets he hasn't had a new car so he's like wow and then he turns the radio on and the funny thing is it was the day elvis died is the day he got the car so we know exactly what day he got the car so that was the day elvis died he was like oh man
Starting point is 00:14:01 elvis died and then the guy gave him the keys he said it's all yours and he didn't know what to do with himself it's like well they gave me a car. Holy shit. It says retard on the license plate. It says tard man on the license plate. It says big tard. Unbelievable. It says dex tard.
Starting point is 00:14:16 Dex tard. I like that one. That's better. That's your pun for the week. That's a pretty good one. Put that in your fucking pocket. I'm impressed with that one. I'm even okay with that one.
Starting point is 00:14:23 That one was pretty good. Because if it's on a license plate, it makes sense. Jimmy needs a license plate every week. That's what we need to get him here. Yeah, so anyway, he's got his new car. Elvis is dead. Everybody's happy. This is at Oklahoma State.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Except for Elvis's daughter. Yeah, she's not happy, probably. She will be later when she inherits Gray's Lanch. Go on. And his catalog. So Dexter, there's a big fight at some bar off campus during, I believe, his junior year where he is cut with a box cutter on his face. If you've ever seen, look up a picture, you'll see on our social media.
Starting point is 00:14:54 On his left cheek, there's a giant scar. Badass. Huge scar. It looks like a birth defect. It's so big. I would fucking do that just to fucking have that cool scar. That's a badass scar. It's a badass scar, but it would be cool if you were 6'3", 250, and like a badass football player.
Starting point is 00:15:09 5'8", kind of a doughy 165, not so cool. You'd want a big scar on your face. You'd be like, somebody raped you, didn't they? They raped you and cut you out bad, huh? They got you good. They got you, huh? You were in jail, weren't you? Yeah, they got you.
Starting point is 00:15:20 That looks like a total prison shiv on your face there because it's a thick one, too. So that's not great. But in college, too, he's face there because it's a thick one, too. So that's not great. But in college, too, he's a beast. It's a raised scar, right? It's kind of like welted and kind of bubbly. Man, it's nasty looking. It's a nasty looking scar. I fucking love scars.
Starting point is 00:15:35 That's cool. It looks like it was deep and he didn't go to the doctor right away. He could jam his tongue through it. Oh, brother. He could have put his fucking four fingers through that thing. He could have got a cavity filled through it definitely definitely so uh you know he's a hot item as at a college but he like i said the personal problems and also too back then that recruiting shit would come to light yeah everybody was doing it but when it came to light people were like oh
Starting point is 00:15:57 don't want to go near that guy unless they were eric dickerson and then they dropped him number two overall of course you know he was a beast hall Hall of Famer. It's going to happen. April 28th, 29th, 1981 is the NFL draft. It was at the New York Sheraton Hotel in New York City. What day? April what? April 28th and 29th. It's a two-day affair here.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Now, this is the draft. You have to be an old football fan for this, but George Rogers goes number one to the New Orleans Saints. He's a running back and was a damn fine running back for a while. Lawrence Taylor, number two to the Giants. And hell of a pick by Bill Parcells there in the Giants. George Young there, the GM. That was one, too.
Starting point is 00:16:31 They didn't want him. They were like, oh, what do we need more defense for? Parcells was like, you get that son of a bitch now. Because he's the best one ever on defense. Because he's a monster. He's going to make rule changes. Fucking draft him. Yeah, he's dread.
Starting point is 00:16:42 They didn't count sacks until the year after he came in. I'll put it that way. Change some shit. He's going to break legs. Well, we'll get into that. Okay. Because we're dealing with a Washington Redskin here in a second. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Now, Ronnie Lott also drafted that year. Is that right? Ronnie Lott. Listen to this lineup. Ronnie Lott, Mike Singletary. My God. Dennis Smith, Bronco Free Safety. I think he's probably a Hall of Famer by now, too.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I don't think he is yet. Howie Long, who we all know from TV. My God, this defense was stacked. And your favorite, Chris Collins. Oh, fucking cunt. We get to round. I hate that man so much. I just can't stand his homerism, his bullshit, because he played for Cincy.
Starting point is 00:17:20 So any time that the Denver Broncos play, he can't wait to run them down. You know, the score could be 31 to 3. Denver's, the game's long over in the third quarter. And he's like, listen, this is why Denver's not going to win this game. I'll fucking choke you, Chris. Well, at least he's not frosting his hair blonde and going out pretending he's a
Starting point is 00:17:39 fucking thing. What is Skip Ellis' talent? Arguing with black people? Is that his talent? Hey, if you put a black guy next to me, I'll argue with him. Even if I agree, I'll figure out how to fucking take the point. It's fine. I have no pride. I don't have any pride. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:17:53 What do I care? I don't have any pride. Look at my hair. Integrity. I wipe my ass with integrity. I bleach my hair with integrity. Look at me. I'm a fucking moron.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I love, by the way, this week when the Cowboys lost news on there. You're complaining about it. Good. Good. Deal with it. I don't like the Cowboys lost news on, they're going to be complaining about it. Good. Good. Deal with it. I don't like the Cowboys, but for business purposes, I had a cowboy lined up if they went to the Super Bowl for this, because I'm not fucking around. I know how to get listeners.
Starting point is 00:18:12 So I had that. And seeing that, I went, you know what? I don't even give a fuck about my listeners. Screw you, Skip Ballas, you frosty-haired douchebag. Stop ironing your face, you fuck. You pile of frosted turd. I hate you. Jesus Christ. All right. So Chris Collinsworthed turd. I hate you. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:18:25 All right. So Chris Collinsworth. And Skip Bell. We don't like either one of these people anyway. Skip Bell has nothing to do with this draft, by the way. I don't know why he came up. I felt rage and I went, I hate too. I hate too, Jimmy.
Starting point is 00:18:38 It's raging. Washington, when they get to the fifth round, chooses Dexter. All right. Fifth round, number 119 overall by Washington. That's not a bad pick. Not a bad pick. Now, Washington that year really stacked. This is one of those drafts where they didn't get a quarterback
Starting point is 00:18:52 or they didn't get anything like that, but they got pieces. That meant a lot. They got Dexter Manley here. They got Russ Grimm early, who's a Hall of Fame offensive lineman, and also Joe Jacoby as a free agent half of the draft, who's, again, a longtime Redskins anchor of that offensive line. Only guy really to get drafted after Manley who was worth anything was Redskins wide receiver Charlie Brown. How about that?
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah, he drafted. Also Wade Wilson was there, but he sucked. So we're not going to talk about him. But yeah, the Redskins did really well that year. Charlie Brown, Dexter Manley, two big offensive linemen. Not too shabby. He comes in 1981. He's a character from the start.
Starting point is 00:19:27 He's the original. In baseball you hear about Manny Ramirez. He's Manny being Manny. You always hear that thing. He's the original Dexter being Dexter. They used to say. That was their thing. That's Dexter being Dexter. He was a crazy. He's a gregarious guy. This is the thing about Dexter Manley. He sounds like a psychopath
Starting point is 00:19:44 so far, but he's the most gregarious, happy, giggly. He has this high pitch. He laughs. He's like this happy, huge, smiley, giggly guy. And he's a complete disaster. But people like him. They wish he would shut up. He likes to talk about opponents.
Starting point is 00:19:59 And that obviously coaches don't want you to talk shit about opponents. Like, hey, that's going to make him play harder. Stop doing that. Hey, fuck face want you to talk shit about opponents. Like, hey, that's going to make them play harder. Stop doing that. Hey, fuck face. Hey, fuck head. Stop. I don't want the rest of my offensive line to have to be trying to shore up free safeties coming in and take off my quarterback's head.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Oh, shit. So he's a right defensive end. Which, if you're not a football fan, he's on the defensive line, not the team with the ball on the line with the hand down. When the guy gets the ball to throw it, he's the guy trying to kill him. He's the guy twice his size trying to murder him from the backside. That's him. And he's a right defensive end too so he's coming from people's backsides,
Starting point is 00:20:29 going up against left tackles. He's a badass pass rusher. He plays in his 1981 season, plays 16 games every game. He only starts nine games, which they probably brought him in slowly and had him start after that. They had to find out if he was any good. He's a fifth rounder. Who knows? 1982.
Starting point is 00:20:45 This is amazing. Between the 81 and 82 season, they want to keep him out of trouble. Yeah. They're like, he's a wild, he's crazy. He's out there. He's a kid. He's going to get in trouble. Now he's got some money in his pocket.
Starting point is 00:20:56 Let's calm this down. He gets the refrigerator and the fucking locker room chained. Absolutely. They're like, he's going to eat all our meat. This guy's a monster. All of our meat. So to keep him out of trouble, they get him an off-season job. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Okay. Off-season job is as a deputy sheriff. What? Okay. Now he was actually sworn in as a sheriff. Who is he? Steven Seagal? That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Shaq did it too. He thought he was like, I thought I was going to get a gun and I'd be running around Washington chasing people. No, you idiot. No, no, no. But they deputized him, gave him a badge, and he actually had like responsibilities that he had to deal with. But basically he used it as something, as a fun source.
Starting point is 00:21:30 He had an orange Mercedes that he would put a police light in and he would just pull people over and fuck with them like super troopers basically. That's all he did. Let's go play the meow game, that bullshit. What an asshole. He would pull them over and just be like, hey, listen, you got to obey the laws of the land and only you can prevent forest fires and he'd just do that kind of shit.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And then just walk away and they'd be like, is that Dexter Manley? Did Dexter Manley just tell me to drown my fire? Is that the dude the Redskins drafted? He had a badge, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:57 I don't know what's going on here. That had to be the most confusing. Imagine Super Troopers but an NFL player recognized well in the city pulling a guy over and then doing that. They would be twice as confused.
Starting point is 00:22:06 With this high-voiced giggle. Yeah, the hee-hee-hee. It was the weirdest shit, man. Does he come up to the passenger side, like the blind side? He runs up to the passenger side. Got your blind side, boy. Got you. My God.
Starting point is 00:22:18 So then the football season starts. In July, he stops being a deputy because the training camp starts. He's got to obviously be a— He's got responsibilities. He's not a deputy once the season starts.. He's got to obviously be a— He's got responsibilities. He's not a deputy once the season starts. That's important. It's going to come up big later on. But he'll file your paperwork for your missing cat after the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Not quite. He'll do other shit, and we'll find out here. Now, two weeks into the season, the 82 season, a strike happens. This is a player strike season. It's a very shortened season. The players and owners, they're out for 57 days. They come to an agreement finally on November 16th, 1982. The games were to resume that weekend, and they're just going to do it as a nine-game schedule.
Starting point is 00:22:52 So if you look at NFL records, teams play nine games in 1982. They play 16 normally, and 16 teams were going to be in the playoffs. Back then, there was way less teams. There was only 20-something teams. 16, and they called it a Super Bowl tournament. I guess because nine games in football isn't enough to know if anybody's that good. There's teams that are six and three after nine games that end up 10 and six. It's not six and 10.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Week 10 is generally when you start talking about the playoffs. Yeah, because there could be a fucking fluke being nine and one in week 10, and then they finish the season 9-7. So they put them in the playoffs, get 16 teams in there, let them fight it out to the death here. The players in the strike want an increased minimum pay, and they also want a one-time $60 million payment, and then other benefits like retirement things, health things, that sort of shit. One-time $60 million per player? No, no.
Starting point is 00:23:42 One-time $60 to all the players just to make up for it. Okay, just to, like, disperse it? It's a back pay, basically. Is time 60 to all the players just to make up for it. Okay, just to like disperse it? It's a back pay basically. Is that like fucking 50 bucks a person? Exactly. We've owed you this for a while, whatever. I think it goes to the union or something. So November 24th, 1982, this is eight days later when the football's going to start.
Starting point is 00:23:59 He's had all this time off to do whatever he wants. Football starts again. He's arrested in the Washington suburbs. to do whatever he wants. Football starts again. He's arrested in the Washington Suppers. And they pull him over, and he has temporary plates on his car. It's a new car.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Temporary plates. And the cop said it looked like the date was altered on the plates. So they pull him over. He tries to get out of it by flashing his badge and saying he's a cop, and it's okay. So he's arrested for impersonating an officer and altering the temporary plates in his car. How much of a bitch does that? Oh, God, that hurts so much.
Starting point is 00:24:30 What an idiot. What a fucking idiot. I mean, if I'm deputized, I'm going to figure that might work. I might try it. He quit on July 13th. That's the problem. It's over. It's done.
Starting point is 00:24:42 If he did that in June, they would have been like, oh, okay, you're a deputy. But he's not anymore. He just still has the badge. He should have probably said, you know, a couple months ago, I was a deputy. No, he tried to just be like, flash the badge and be like, it's cool, man. Go about your business. It's cool. It's all right.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Hey, look, police business. We all get it. I know. Police business. I'm trying out a new TRP. Trying out a new temporary plate. Sometimes you're busy with your police work. Sometimes I'm busy with my police work. You know what I'm saying? Let's TRP trying out a new temporary plate sometimes you're busy with your police work sometimes I'm busy with my police work
Starting point is 00:25:07 let's respect each other's territory I feel like he was doing it I was trying my penmanship you dumb son of a bitch I'm not good at reading and writing I was trying to write a new 10 back there read this ticket is everything correct I don't know never mind
Starting point is 00:25:23 I'm a cop you know he's in jail. So good. He plays in all nine games that year. Has six and a half sacks in nine games, which is great. Three fumble recoveries and an interception. He's a monster. It's only his second year.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Team goes eight and one that year. I think the linemen got an interception. Yeah. That's incredible. Probably a tip. I don't think things like that. But it's still pretty incredible. It's still great.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Washington is nasty that year. Defense is nasty. So nasty. They go all the way to the super bowl through the super bowl tournament and on january 30th 1983 is the super bowl and it's at the rose bowl in pasadena california 103 667 in attendance holy that is a big crowd man that's amazing it's the redskins versus the dolphins this is pre dan marino dolphins They drafted Dan Marino that year. Gotcha. So they won't have Dan Marino for three more months when they draft him. This is old-timey kind of stunted Dolphin offense, basically.
Starting point is 00:26:13 It's a rematch of Super Bowl VII in the early 70s there, which the Dolphins won 14-7. You might want to look at Hunter S. Thompson's Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail 72. He is at the Super Bowl during that. There's a big, long thing about it. It's very, very funny shit. Anyway, John Riggins wins the MVP of that Super Bowl as 166 yards. If you've ever seen old NFL highlights, there's a highlight of him running. He's a white dude.
Starting point is 00:26:36 He looks like the best way to describe John Riggins would be he's a guy that you could invite over to help you with drywall, and he would just want beer. He'd just be like, just get a 12-pack. He's money, money. He is a square of them. He looks just like a square. It's crazy how square he is. There's an old clip of him.
Starting point is 00:26:54 It's a Redskins, a white Redskins running back running, and basically he's running and he's breaking tackles, and somebody grabs his jersey and pulls it, and he, like, runs out of it and keeps going. It's, like, one of the most classic NFL highlights they showed in the beginning of everything. Because you can't fucking wrap your arms around a square. That's true. He ran for 166 yards that day, which was a Super Bowl record and good for the MVP.
Starting point is 00:27:17 The Redskins were actually also three-point underdogs in that game. Is that right? They were three-point underdogs. Dexter goes in and guarantees a win. Wow. He pulled a Joe Namath. He's a second-year player. He's not even the quarterback. He's a defensive end. And he goes to the press and said, I guarantee you we're going to beat the Dolphins.
Starting point is 00:27:34 That's like Leon Lett opening his stupid mouth. They made a big deal out of it, and the coaches were like, you moron. Shut up. What are you doing? Nobody wants to hear from a lineman, you dope. You can't even read and write. So quarterback Joe Theismann, who you might know from television. Called him a retard?
Starting point is 00:27:50 Quarterback Joe Theismann said, Dexter's a retard. He was brought up in the retard schools. And when that guy hit him with the box cutter, I'm mad it wasn't his throat. He said about him guaranteeing the victory, you'd think the teammates would be mad. This is kind of a loose team, though. He said, quote, it's Dexter. If he didn't say something, we would have probably been surprised. They're like, he's an idiot.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Of course we expect that from him. During the game, he has a huge fumble on a sack when the Redskins are down 7-0. That changes the momentum of the entire game. Oh, boy. Blast the quarterback. The Redskins get possession of the ball. They end up winning 27-7. Wow.
Starting point is 00:28:24 This game. They're 27-17, the Redskins do. Now, a little funny thing I like to do with the Super Bowl here, because we know what a big deal the halftime show and American Anthem are nowadays when they do it. Not such a big deal back in 1983. I was looking at those recently, and I was thinking the same thing. When did this fucking become such a big deal? And it was fairly recent.
Starting point is 00:28:42 It was recent. It really was. It was like Michael Jackson's Super Bowl with the Bills and Dolphins, or Bills and Cowboys, I think. Now, the halftime show that year was, wow, quote, Bob Janney Productions presents Kaleido Super Scope with the LA Super Drill Team. I wouldn't stick around. Who's watching that?
Starting point is 00:28:59 Fuck that. That's what I mean. No one's, that's not getting- The halftime show was not a halftime show. That's not getting ratings, I don't think, on that one here. And I'll bet that guy had to fucking pay to be in it. Oh, yeah. Probably.
Starting point is 00:29:09 You know he did. Or back then they just thought, that's a good act that'll entertain. I don't know who was booking this shit back then, but apparently nobody who knows anything of going on. No, let's get, you know, someone who's big in 1983. Let's get Bruce Springsteen. Yeah, right. No doubt.
Starting point is 00:29:22 No. I don't think so. We're going to get somebody with the word production in their fucking name. We're going to get a Kaleido Super Scope with the LA Super Drill Team. There's two supers in that title. What a bunch of shit. Bullshit. That's why they did it.
Starting point is 00:29:34 They're like, this is the Super Bowl. We're getting everybody that has super in it. It's like an Asian buffet. Super Dave Osborne's going to get shot out of a fucking cannon. It's like a Chinese buffet. We just put super in the title a whole bunch, and people will come. They like it. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Now, on his play, Dexter thought he was a bad son of a bitch back then. Yeah. We have an in their own words on that. And there are a lot of in their own words. He said, I had to stop. It was another one where I'm like, I can't take all these in their own words. I've got to pick and choose so many. He said, quote, in their own words, quote, to be very frank with you, I'm in the top five.
Starting point is 00:30:04 You know, I'm believing in myself. I have confidence. Top five player in the league? Top five defensive players in the league. Okay. Pass rusher-wise, he's not wrong probably. 1983 season, he plays all 16 games, starts all 16 games, gets 11 sacks, which is a beast. That's nasty.
Starting point is 00:30:22 Team goes 14-2 that year. Good God. Smoking team. That was kind of the hogs, those offensive a beast. That's nasty. Team goes 14-2 that year. Good God. Smoking team. That was kind of the hogs, those offensive linemen, the hogs. I don't know if you remember. I know guys would dress like pigs in the stands. In Washington, they still do. That's why they're doing it, because they call the offensive line the hogs.
Starting point is 00:30:35 I think, you know what, there was a story that came out fairly recently. Those guys gave up their season tickets. There was like four of them or whatever. They were pissed. Yeah, they were pissed that they sucked. And they're like, fuck it, I'm not doing this anymore. I'm not going to dress up in this bullshit in freezing weather to come watch this team get their ass kicked.
Starting point is 00:30:53 And pay $300 a pop for it. No thanks. On that offensive line, there was a guy named Dave Butts. If you ever just look up a picture of Dave Butts, and he's like, you know, should be poster boy for concussion protocol he never put on a different helmet or let them fix his helmet or logo so his helmet
Starting point is 00:31:12 had huge gouges in it and chunks taken out of the logo because the offensive lineman the first thing they used to do was butt heads with the defensive line on every play he just wouldn't let them fix his helmet up so that way he would show he was tough right way of whatever it's probably that and a little bit of the fucking baseball players wearing dirty socks. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:29 What's that word I'm looking for? Yeah, superstition. That's the word. It's a superstition probably. The Redskins go back to the Super Bowl that year, January 22nd, 1984, Super Bowl XVIII against the Raiders that year. It's in Tampa Stadium, Tampa, Florida, 73,000 in attendance. Redskins are three-point favorites this time.
Starting point is 00:31:46 The Raiders, this is those Raiders team with Marcus Allen and Jim Plunkett. So badass. Howie Long, that was those teams. It bums me out that they were so badass. Yeah. This was the year where the Apple, the famous 1984 commercial, the Apple Macintosh commercial, the computer commercial. It's like one of the most famous commercials in the history of advertising. It only aired once.
Starting point is 00:32:06 It aired during the Super Bowl. Is that right? Yeah, this was the Super Bowl. This is the Super Bowl that it aired on. Barry Manilow sang the national anthem. Wow. Oh, yeah. Imagine him crooning that out.
Starting point is 00:32:16 That's so sad. Well, it's better than nothing, what they had before. Yeah, but that's not a fucking... They probably had some eight-year-old kid who won a contest the year before, so at least it's something. The halftime show was, quote, salute to the superstars of the silver screen. Again, super. Super. But that sounds boring as shit.
Starting point is 00:32:33 That's the halftime show? What was that, anyway? Salute to the superstars of the silver screen. You're going to parade some fucking actors out there? That's entertainment? I feel like they brought John Wayne out to the 50 and he waved and turned around and they were like, and now this guy, and they waved and turned around and they were like, and now this guy. And they waved and turned around.
Starting point is 00:32:46 A bunch of people with emphysema walked out there and fucking walked back out. Not great for ratings here. Marcus Allen is the MVP with 191 rushing yards, which is a new record that year, and leads the Raiders to a 38-9 win that day. My God. It's known as Black Sunday because the Raiders were black. So they owned that day. Unbelievable. Crushed them.
Starting point is 00:33:06 On Dexter's playing, teammate Charles Mann. Charles Mann was like, Charles Mann was another defensive lineman. And these two were kind of the, they were the opposite of each other, basically. Manley was crazy and wild and all this shit. And like Manley was like, he talked like this. He was a black guy, but he spoke like this, damn it. And he was like, listen, listen here, pal. He was one of these guys.
Starting point is 00:33:26 He did chunky soup commercials. That's good chunky soup. Is that right? Yeah, he was number 71 and Manley was number 72. Okay. They were on the line. And so Charles Mann, it seems like a really smart guy. Everything you hear him say, he sounds very intelligent.
Starting point is 00:33:40 He says about Dexter Manley, Dexter liked to sack the quarterback, didn't give a shit about anything else. Yeah. He said, quote, Dexter did not care about the run he would tell me quite frankly they pay me to get sacked dexter was smart though because you really get fanfare for the sacks yeah he knew what he was doing with that and that's what he wanted to do he's a showman this guy 1984 plays in 15 games 13 and a half sacks beastlyly. Team goes 11 and five. Almost a sack a game. They lose early in the playoffs. His sacking is, he really is a beast of a pass rusher. This guy was a great, great pass rusher.
Starting point is 00:34:12 If he could have kept his shit together, he really could have been one of the all-time great pass rushers. And he was still a great pass rusher. He was in the Washington Ring of Honor and all that kind of thing. Now, 1985, and during this season, we have a Monday night football game. This is an extremely famous game. Please look it up on YouTube. Theismann broken leg is all you need to look up.
Starting point is 00:34:31 This is when Lawrence Taylor snapped Joe Theismann's leg like a wishbone. It was amazing. It's beautiful. Comes around, grabs him by the top half. Theismann tries to lean away, and his leg gets stuck in the ground. And Taylor just says, no, I'm going to pull you this way. And just pulls him so hard that it snaps his leg in half. That's how hard he pulled stuck in the ground and Taylor just says, no, I'm going to pull you this way. He just pulls him so hard that it snaps his leg in half. That's how hard he pulled
Starting point is 00:34:48 him to the ground. You can hear it snap. It wasn't one of these where someone landed on him. No. Literally, with LT's torque, he broke this guy's leg. From his hips. Insane. Insane. Look that up on YouTube. It's horrible and disgusting and there's a bone sticking out of his leg. It's
Starting point is 00:35:03 one of the grossest football injuries in the history of the league. His leg goes sideways on national television. It's horrible. He's freaking out. You even see Lawrence Taylor freaking out. Oh, my God. Imagine you're that coked up, and you see that. You're like, ah!
Starting point is 00:35:15 What the fuck? Oh, my God. There's a bone sticking out. Holy shit. I'm going to do a line off it. No, wait. Is that a line? Paramedics.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Paramedics. He's got a line on his leg. Is that a line? It's a fat-ass rail. Now's got a line on his leg. Is that a line, man? It's a fat-ass rail. Now, Dexter saw this broken leg, and it freaked him out. Really? It freaked him out watching it happen because he says, in their own words about this, he says, in their own words, quote, I was standing on the sideline and watched Lawrence Taylor take out Joe Theismann, and I was petrified.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I said, what if that happened to me? What am I going to do? I'm 28 years old, and I couldn't even spell about. I took a test, and the lady told me I was at a second grade reading level. I was functionally illiterate. Hilarious. So that's hilarious. This guy is petrified to lose his livelihood and he can't even read.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Nothing is funnier than that. He's fucking about and can't even spell it. Can't even spell it. He has no idea how to do it. He'd love to make up a t-shirt but he doesn't know how to uh now 85 season he had a great season that season on the field 15 sacks and 16 games again that's huge yeah that's lt numbers yeah and during that time it was since since like they started recording sacks in 82 it was like lawrence taylor dexter manley were one
Starting point is 00:36:22 and two going and when you think about like the guys that get sacks now, it's not the sack that it was then. Because then it was fucking pummeling the quarterback. The quarterback was taking hard shots. And the defensive line, we could take cheap shots. They could head slap. Manley said he used to take, well, he had his hand down. He'd hold some dirt in his hand.
Starting point is 00:36:40 And when he came up, he'd throw it in the offensive line in his face sometimes. That was even one of his strategies. He's like, I take it, I throw it in the face. He's like, refs never saw it though. What? Take it,'d throw it in the offensive line in his face sometimes. That was even one of his strategies. He's like, I take it, I throw it in the face. He's like, refs never saw it, though. What? Take it, I throw it in the face. That is unbelievable. It's so funny the way he did it.
Starting point is 00:36:51 He's like, pow, I throw it in the face. It was really, really funny. Team goes 10-6, no playoffs that year. Now, early 1986, Mark Manley. Real quickly, take that, Kansas City. Because Kansas City, every year they go 10-6 and don't make the playoffs. They want to fucking change the rules. Let's get three fucking wild cards from a division.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Fuck you, Kansas City. Go to hell, Kansas City. Eat shit. And then they go this year and they lose right away. That's what you get, Kansas City. One and done. Eat shit, you bastards. They've always been like that.
Starting point is 00:37:18 I hate them so much. Ever since Steve DeBerg was their quarterback, they've been in the first round. And always bitching. Always bounced in the first round. Now, bitching. Always bounced in the first round. Now, early 1986, Manley enters drug rehab. He's got a little bit of a problem that's going to come up a lot through his career. He likes the cocaine. Of course he does.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Really, really likes the cocaine. Because he can afford it. Yeah, absolutely. And it's a good time, apparently, for him. Now, as a part of this rehab, he's supposed to write a journal every day and share it with the group. When did he start the coke? Do we have that? Because I have a feeling that he started it when he was a deputy and he got the keys to the evidence room. And he's like, what's in this shit?
Starting point is 00:37:54 He says, from what he says, and we don't know if this is true, he says that during the 1982 season, he went home with a lady, some woman he met. And he said she was real sexy and she came out wearing, like, G-string panties and all this shit and she had cocaine. And so he was like, yeah, all right, you know, blah, blah, blah. He says that's how it got started. To me, that's, he's trying to pick what's the way where it makes me look least responsible. Yeah. Oh, I was just a young guy wanting some woman and she had it. Well, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:38:19 I don't believe anything he says. Here's the thing that ruins that argument. When you're an NFL star and you make all kinds of money, that chick's impressed by you. You don't have to do shit to impress her. I don't believe anything this guy says. Here's the thing that ruins that argument. When you're an NFL star and you make all kinds of money, that chick's impressed by you. You don't have to do shit to impress her. I don't believe anything this guy says basically here. So obviously he's supposed to write a journal every day in drug rehab. Clearly he can't. That's not going to happen at all.
Starting point is 00:38:36 How about teach him first? How about teach him something? So he tells his wife at this point that he's illiterate. She didn't know. She finds a school for him to go to, the Washington Lab School. No, he hid it from everybody. He hid it from everybody. He has a wife, Glenda, at this point that he's illiterate she didn't know uh she finds a school for him to go to the washington lab no no he hid it from everybody he hid it from everybody he has a wife glenda at this point hey baby write these checks that's what it is and the kids later on too his kids say that they remember that like you know he would get something that needed to be read and he'd hand it to the wife always he always handed it to glenda there to say oh here you take it and they
Starting point is 00:39:01 just thought oh well she handles this and but then now they were like oh because he can't read that's why later on. I wrapped this gift. Now write Santa on it. Write Santa. I don't know how to write it. I wrote Satan. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I got some letters, right, because it's backwards. You're not going to have the same message. Dad, this gift is from Satan. That's weird. Why did Satan give me a Nintendo? I don't understand it. Oh, my God. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:22 Joe Theismann says of Dexter Manley's illiteracy, he says, quote, Dexter had the last locker before he walked out to the practice field. I was walking out one day and he was reading a newspaper. Something didn't look right. I walk back and he's reading The Wall Street Journal upside down. I mean, that's a guy trying to impress his friends. I know what numbers are. He said he would when he first came into Redskins later on, he said, I would walk in, I'd buy the Wall Street Journal and put it under my arm just because I wanted to be different. He said, I didn't want everybody to think that I was just some dumb football. I wanted everyone to be like, ooh, look at him. He's mysterious. He reads the Wall.
Starting point is 00:39:54 He's got a stock portfolio. Right. 1982 football players. It's upside down. And it's upside down. So kind of ruining his whole vibe here. Like just a stereotypical dummy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Another teammate said, quote, we'd go out to eat and Dexter would say, what are you having? And I'd tell him and he'd say, yeah, I'll have the same thing because he couldn't read the fucking menu. He couldn't read the menu, guys. I mean. How do you not pick up on this shit? Dude, steak, hamburger. You think you just recognize words after a while. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Even worse, like at some point your teammates got to go, motherfucker, I haven't seen you read a thing ever. Also, too, don't you eat what you want to eat? Don't you have a craving for something? Why do you always crave what I crave? What is up with that? That's really weird. Stalking me or some shit? I get the mushroom burger minus mushrooms.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Why are you getting the same thing? What is going on? That's a weird order. You don't realize that? It's very strange. You know that? I just want the flavor on the bun. I said put it on, then wipe it off. You said the same thing. It doesn't make any sense. That's a weird order. You don't realize that? It's very strange. You know that? I just want the flavor on the bun. I said, put it on, then wipe it off.
Starting point is 00:40:46 You said the same thing. It doesn't make any sense. That's so weird. Taylor Swift is soaring high. Her every move captured in the news cycle and devoured by her devoted fans. She's broken billboard records and made Grammys history, not to mention becoming a billionaire in the process. But along the way, Taylor has had to wage war,
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Starting point is 00:41:55 I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period. Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her?
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Starting point is 00:42:24 It's an all-new season. It's streaming. You can say anything. Judy Justice, only on Freebie. Freebie. So during the 1986, in 1986 here, after all this insanity here, this is before the season,
Starting point is 00:42:45 Dexter's in a Garfinkel's department store in the Washington suburbs, and he passes out. You'd think, cocaine. Holy shit. That's probably way too much cocaine. No, worse. He's taken to Georgetown Hospital, and they find a cyst on his brain about the size of a quarter. So it's the size of a quarter, so they're like, let's wait and see, because it's not malignant or anything. They're like, let's take.
Starting point is 00:43:08 It's not a tumor. It's a cyst. They say, let's take a wait and see approach and see if it grows, or we don't want to go diving into your brain if it's not going to change, basically, if it doesn't affect you. Meanwhile, he's passing out in department stores, so it is affecting him. It's kind of affecting him. He's supposed to return every six months for an MRI. Do you think he's coming back every six months for an MRI? Of course he's not.
Starting point is 00:43:25 He's a fucking moron. 1986, he has his best season. Best season by far. 16 games started, all the games. 18 and a half sacks that year. My God. Monstrous Pro Bowl, first team All-Pro. Would have been Defensive Player of the Year,
Starting point is 00:43:38 but Lawrence Taylor had the best season in the history of football that year. So, sorry. Sorry, man. He had 21 and a half sacks and just was a dominant force, intercepting passes. And he was a, that was his, that's peak Lawrence Taylor there. He's a first team all-pro. Like I said, team goes 12 and four, but they lose in the NFC championship to that Giants team with LT on them.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Deal with that. They roughed them up in that game. I remember that game. It was cold. It was in New York, in the Meadowlands, wind blowing cold and shitty and nice. Is that them beating the Bills in the Super Bowl? No, that is 86. That's when they beat the Broncos. That's when Phil McConkie
Starting point is 00:44:12 catch off Mark Bavaro's hands. I'm familiar. I know you are. You'll be familiar with this next year's Super Bowl also then. The 87 season comes along. Once again, two games in, there's a strike. And they called it a they said they were calling a 24-day strike. So they knew – I don't know how you can know how long a strike can last.
Starting point is 00:44:31 That defeats the purpose of that. Week three games were canceled completely. And then when it wasn't resolved by week four, they brought in replacement players. All right. Have you ever seen the replacements with Keanu Reeves? This is the bullshit they were coming off of basically. Weeks four and five were played with replacement players, which were just cast offs from the USFL or the CFL or one of the CFL teams had just dissolved.
Starting point is 00:44:50 So they got all their guys, they got some USFL, whatever. Scrubs just to fucking try to fill seats. 15. Salvage a season. Yeah. 15% of, yeah, because they're losing money. They lost a fortune. 15%.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Hemorrhaging. Hemorrhaging. It's like a river, that money. Oh, yeah. It was in the, I think it was two $300 million they lost during this right here. My God. Now, 15% of the actual players crossed the picket line. Oh, is that right?
Starting point is 00:45:14 So these shitheads here, yeah, these non-fucking Is it Dexter? No, no. Dexter stayed out. It was Joe Montana, Doug Flutie, Steve Largent, Mark Gastineau. Wow. All the playboy types. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:24 All the pretty boy types. All the guys that need money. All the playboy types. Yeah. All the pretty boy types. All the guys that need money. All the guys with endorsements already and shit like that. Yeah. Now, the season was shortened to 15 games that year. We'll get to how that season ended. During that season, Mike Ditka throws gum at a San Francisco fan. Throws a piece of gum at him for talking shit to him.
Starting point is 00:45:41 Mike Ditka, the old Bears coach. He's on television. He's a real tough guy. What are you doing? It takes a lot to get a piece of gum out of that man shit to him. Mike Dick of the old Bears coach. He's on television. He's a real tough guy. What are you doing? It takes a lot to get a piece of gum out of that man's mouth. Yeah, he likes his gum. So they asked a bunch of NFL players about that because it was a big deal. The head coach threw a piece of gum at a fan.
Starting point is 00:45:55 So Manley called him a bum. He called Mike Dick a bum in the paper. Oh, don't do that. So Mike Dick has said, oh, that guy's got the IQ of a grapefruit. He called him a retard. Yes, exactly. Number one, that's the perfect piece of fruit to call somebody to a grapefruit. But number two, if Mike Dick is calling you dumb, have you ever heard Mike Dick speak?
Starting point is 00:46:16 If he's calling you a retard, you're a retard. And I mean retard. I don't even mean anything else. That's horrible. I saw him on the NFL Network in a fucking mock turtleneck with a zipper, and the zipper is up, so the turtleneck's up. And then he's got a sport coat over that. He doesn't care.
Starting point is 00:46:31 He's fucking dumb. He's a crazy person, man. He's a crazy. So, yeah, he's an IQ of a grapefruit. And he called him a grapefruit. He called him the IQ of a grapefruit. Right, while he was chewing gum. He was smacking away.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yeah, he's a grapefruit. Oh, that guy. Yeah, he's a grapefruit. He's like Norm MacDonald's Burt Reynolds impersonation on Saturday Night Live. That's how he talks all the time. Yeah, yeah, all right. That guy. Hey, he's a great group. Oh, that guy. Yeah, he's a great group. He's like Norm MacDonald's Burt Reynolds impersonation on Saturday Night Live. That's how he talks all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, that guy. He's a great group.
Starting point is 00:46:49 He's at the IQ of a great group. So Manley, next game against the Bears in the 87 season, Manley has a giant game, sacks the shit out of Jim McMahon. He actually plays the run that game. He's screaming at the Chicago sideline to run at him. Run at me, Mike. Run at me. Send him over here. And he screams at the he's screaming at the chicago sideline to run at him run at me mike thinker run at me send him over here and he dominates the game so i mean he when he puts his mind to it this grapefruit is a badass and well he also uh he had he uh had t-shirts made up someone else must have given the order i'm sure his wife gave the order because it says grapefruit the breakfast of champions you know the picture of the grapefruit which is hilarious
Starting point is 00:47:22 but there's about three words there that I know he can't spell. So pretty sure he had someone else put the R in there. I'm going to go. Grapefruit Breakfast and Champions. No fucking way he can spell those. I'm going to say breakfast he definitely didn't know how to spell. That's a break. No way. He might have got champion because he's seen it on hats and t-shirts a lot.
Starting point is 00:47:42 He's looking at his ring to spell it. What's that, champ? Let's see if he holds on to that ring. Which one's champion? Point that one out. He does have a ring for now. We'll get into that. Oh, great.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Well, here's he's going. The 87 season is, again, a strike-shortened season. Like we said, they had 11 games total that he was in that the main guys were playing. He played in 10 of the games, had eight and a half sacks, so he's still good. Team goes 11 and four. They go through the playoffs all the way to the Super Bowl. January 31st, 1988, Jack Murphy Stadium in San Diego, about 73,000 in attendance. Herb Alpert did the national anthem.
Starting point is 00:48:18 What? He's a Spanish horn guy. What the fuck? I have no idea who that is. He's great at that. He was a Spanish horn guy from the 60s. I have no idea who that is. He's great at that. If you like old Spanish music from the 60s, he's got a cool vibe. He's the cool Esteban of that time.
Starting point is 00:48:34 I don't think he sings, though. It's weird. And now the halftime show was Chubby Checker and the Rockettes. What? All these shows are for people that are 80. Not just that, but they're combining two acts that don't even know each other. I think Chubby Checker came out, sang some shit, did the twist, and then he left, and then the Rockettes came and did some kicks, and then they brought it. What kind of entertainment is that?
Starting point is 00:48:52 It's not entertainment. The Rockettes came out and kicked to fucking Santa's Red Nose Reindeer or some shit? I think he did. No, Chubby Checker did the twist. He's the twist. So they came out and kicked to the twist. Okay, they kicked to the ass shit. Maybe he said to do the kick, and then they kicked.
Starting point is 00:49:05 I don't know. He might have changed the words. I don't think they performed together. Anytime I think of the Rockettes, I just think of some winter wonderland play. Yeah. That's all it is. Christmas. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:49:13 They're in fucking slutty Santa outfits. Washington crushes Denver in the Super Bowl, as I remember. It was brutal. I didn't like them that year. That was the Doug Williams first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl. That was a big deal. Timmy Smith had a giant 220-yard game, that unknown running back. Washington wins 42-10.
Starting point is 00:49:28 It was ugly, though. I remember that. That was an extremely ugly Super Bowl. 1988 season, he's still with Washington. Only nine sacks that season, which still— That's still pretty impressive. He's tapering it off, but it's still impressive. Nine sacks isn't bad because you figure a sack can go either way.
Starting point is 00:49:43 One guy, you know, he stumbles or another guy hits him. He could get half sacks a bunch of times, but it's still impressive. Nine sacks isn't bad because you figure a sack can go either way. One guy, you know, he stumbles or another guy hits him. He could get half sacks a bunch of times, and that's still great. A guy just dumps the ball off, and that would have been a sack, things like that. Team goes seven and nine, so that's not great. No. 1989, Dexter, he can read now. 89, he's reading at a ninth grade level. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:01 That's not bad. He says he will donate $250 every single sack he makes this year to children's literacy. That's nice. Good for you, Dexter. That's nice. He cares about the kids. What a nice guy. In 1989, he's also brought before a Senate committee.
Starting point is 00:50:17 He is brought into the Senate of the United States. Three years ago, he couldn't read. He couldn't read. And that's what they want to talk to him about. They want to talk to him about why colleges are letting people, colleges and high schools, are letting people skate through who can't read based on their athletic prowess. That's a Senate hearing?
Starting point is 00:50:31 It should take you ten minutes to know why. This is like the steroid hearing. We're going to bring in Mark McGuire, and we need a whole panel of congressmen to know if he did steroids. Why is your head giant? Why are you a giant orange lunatic? Why is that? What the fuck? Why are your forearms the size of my thigh?
Starting point is 00:50:48 Can you explain that to me, sir? Pretty quick hearing, I think. How many curls does it take to get that? It doesn't. It takes a fucking couple of vials of this. It's not creatine, asshole. They go in and they hear and Dexter cries. He says he couldn't read.
Starting point is 00:51:01 He cried. There's senators crying like, oh, this poor guy. They all come out. I saw an interview with Harry Reid, who's a current senator in Nevada and was the leader of the Democratic whatever. And he said that, you know, he was just heartbreaking to see him in there.
Starting point is 00:51:13 And it was, you know, he was so brave for coming forward and all this type of shit. So now he's a hero at this point for 19. He's a brave guy. He came out. He said he couldn't read. He shed light on the problem of illiteracy and he went and talked about it in front of the entire nation.
Starting point is 00:51:30 So did we solve the problem? Well, the problem is there's fucking money to be made. That's the problem. Well, he's doing well. November 1989, he fails his third drug test and is suspended for life from the league. So that's how great of a... Thank God for the Senate.
Starting point is 00:51:45 The Senate had him in there. He was the greatest guy in the world for like a month and a half, and the next thing you know, you're out forever. As soon as the tears dry, he's fucking gone forever. Yep, fails his third drug test. He's gone from the league, suspended for life at that point in the November of 89, cuts the 89 season short form. He only played in 10 games because there was another five, six left on the schedule.
Starting point is 00:52:05 He had nine sacks in those 10 games. That's great. He's still fucking on top of his game. Now, I think the Senate thing really gave him some cachet, though, because he's banned for life at this point. And November 1990, one year later, he is reinstated by Paul Tagliabue, who is a hardcore silverhead. Yeah. Obviously, he's like, we need to get this guy back in here. We need stars in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:52:24 We need stars. He's been busted three times for cocaine this guy back in here. We need stars in the NFL. We need stars. He's been busted three times for cocaine, but yeah, let's give him another chance here. And for fucking impersonating a police officer. Yeah, and for, that was just dumb. I think they looked at him like, he's 23. He couldn't read for fuck's sake. He couldn't read.
Starting point is 00:52:37 But he could alter a temporary license plate. He knows his numbers. He hired somebody to do that. He threw somebody a 20 and said, write a date that's beyond that one. Whenever an adult says they can't read, I always feel like it's in the 1800s and people are like, I've been lettered since I was four. I always feel like it's that.
Starting point is 00:52:55 I'm not lettered. It was one of those things. It's that and I don't know how to swim. Those are the two that I'm just like, where the fuck were you raised? Just move your arms. You can do it. Were you raised by wolves? That is not a black joke, by the way. It's purely
Starting point is 00:53:08 coincidental. Purely coincidental. Does any adult that can't swim, it's like, what the fuck were you doing your whole life? So 1990, nobody wants him in 1990 because he's suspended constantly, but one team gives him a shot. It's the Phoenix Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Of course. Phoenix Cardinals had just moved to Phoenix two years before that and just needed something because no one here gave a shit about this team in Phoenix. They played at ASU, which is a big dump with benches seats. It doesn't even have seats. It has benches. Benches and bleachers. Bleachers, that's what I meant.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Steel fucking bleachers with no backs. In 110 degrees. Good luck with that shit. Oh, it was the worst. This was a terrible team, too. They were 5-11. Coach Joe Bugle. Oh, my God, Bugle, then. This was Tim Rosenbaugh was the quarterback.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Oh, my God. Johnny Johnson was their number one running back. They don't even have Ricky Prohl yet. Ricky Prohl is their number one receiver. Their best receiver is white. He's fucking white. Not just white, with a blonde fucking mullet. I'm pretty sure Johnny Johnson was white, too. At least half white. He's fucking white. Not just white with a blonde fucking mullet. I'm pretty sure Johnny Johnson was white, too.
Starting point is 00:54:06 At least half white. You can't have a running back and a receiver that are white and be your top thing and expect to win in the NFL. This is not happening. I'm sorry. Ricky Pro was like a tiny. That's reality. Fucking reality, guys.
Starting point is 00:54:15 No way. No way. Not happening. He was like a tiny Brian Bosworth. He was. He was fast. He could catch. A little blonde mullet coming out of the back of his hair.
Starting point is 00:54:24 He's a white guy. That's it. He's so fucking flimsy. He's catch. A little blonde mullet coming out of the back of his hair. He's a white guy. That's it. He's so fucking flimsy. He's a coach now, I believe. Ricky Pro? I don't know. I think he's a wide receivers coach. He was around forever.
Starting point is 00:54:32 He went and played for the Rams on those great Rams teams in the early 2000s there, late 90s. The greatest show on turf. Exactly. 1991, he goes and plays for the Tampa Bay Bucs. Oh, my God. Now he's bouncing around. Dog days of the Bucs. Oh, my God. Now he's bouncing around. Dog days of the Bucs. This is back when they had the white uniforms with the peach fucking guy who looked like
Starting point is 00:54:50 he was coming on to you on the side of the helmet with a knife in his teeth. He looked like Donald Trump in drag. That's what it looked like. That's a good point. Yeah. The guy on their helmet looked like- With a fucking knife in his teeth. He looked like he was just looking at everybody going, hey, big guy.
Starting point is 00:55:03 How you doing? Hey, you. Hey, fella. Hey, fella. What you got in your pants? I like that was just looking at everybody going, hey, big guy. How you doing? Hey, you. Hey, fella. Hey, fella. What you got in your pants? I like that. I like the cut of your jeans, mister. Grab you by the pussy.
Starting point is 00:55:11 One of those. Yeah. I'll grab you by the man pussy. By the man pussy. Good God, no. This fucking magician beard and mustache. So fucking, wow. Consisted with his hat.
Starting point is 00:55:22 It's a swashbuckler. Lately homoerotic. Oh, it was so homoerotic. I feel like that's why the team lost so much. They just didn't feel confident about themselves. Can we get a mascot for like the locker room? Yeah, I can design one of those. Yeah, he's just going to stand in the corner and leer.
Starting point is 00:55:35 That's where he'll leer with a look on his face and a knife in his teeth. Creepiest fucking thing. So he makes, he's been making over a million dollars a year for the Redskins here for a while. He makes $700,000 this year with the Bucs. They pick him for a whole season. He's from the beginning. Loses a third of his income.
Starting point is 00:55:50 That's not so bad. Not so bad here. 14 games played, seven starts. But you can buy a lot of Coke with $300,000. You can. This is $700,000 here. Oh, the $300,000 he missed. Yeah, the $300,000 he's missing out on.
Starting point is 00:56:00 That's just Coke money. That's money he was going to give to his children or something else, I would believe. Or some charity for all the sacks he was going to get. By the way, yeah, his son was born in the late 80s there, Dexter Manley II, which we all know is a fucking junior. So don't bullshit me. Keep that second shit. Put it away. You're a junior.
Starting point is 00:56:16 Put your Roman numerals right up your fucking ass. Hands behind your back and call yourself junior because you're going to get arrested. And just, that's it. Sorry. So beautiful. So the team goes three and 13 get arrested. And just, that's it. So beautiful. So the team goes 3-13 that year. Awful, awful team. Yeah, their coach, Richard Williamson, was fired after this one year. He never head coached again.
Starting point is 00:56:35 He was offensive coordinator for the 2000 and 2001 Carolina Panthers. Was it Testaverde, the quarterback then? Vinny Testaverde. Reggie Cobb was there. Broderickb was there. Broderick Thomas was there. What a shit team. Keith McCants. Keith McCants back then.
Starting point is 00:56:50 You watched the Broke documentary. ESPN 30 for 30 about broke athletes. Keith McCants is on there, and he's clearly on a lot of pills. He's just slurring. He's like, no, I'll just do this. You're like, dude, what are you on, bro? You're on camera, asshole. You guys said you'd give me 40 bucks
Starting point is 00:57:06 for this interview, right? You're going to give it to me, right? So Reggie Cobb led the team with 752 yards rushing. So that tells you what kind of shit team that is. December of 1991, end of November, Dexter fails another drug test. He has been banned for life. They let him back in
Starting point is 00:57:21 again. This one I can understand. When your team goes 3-13, you might need a rail or two. He said he did coke in a hotel room, and it was just one time. No, it wasn't. Which is bullshit. Here's his quote on the final suspension. In their own words, quote, It wasn't even a $15 high to blow a million-dollar career.
Starting point is 00:57:39 I'm a con man, a manipulator, a liar, and a cheat. But I'm not a druggie. I used to be, but I'm not. It hurts to know that the country thinks Dexter Manley is destitute on drugs. I busted my ass to get my pride and self-respect back. What a price I have to pay. I don't believe this has happened. I love the first part of that statement where he's like, I'm a con man, I'm a thief, and I'm a liar.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Now listen to the rest of what I'm about to say. What? I don't want to hear another word, sir. I'm a con man. I'm a manipulator. Manipulator. A liar and a cheat. And a cheat.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Now trust what I'm about to say. But here's a statement that I'd like you to believe. Okay. Sure, Dexter. I'm out. We're all buying that shit. By the way, there was facts in there that were fucking false anyway. Completely.
Starting point is 00:58:22 A $15 high to blow a million-dollar career. $700,000, sir. Not even a million. No, yeah, you're lying all over the place, Dexter. I don't believe anything you said. I can prove everything you're saying is going to be a lie because you just lied to me. He made multiple millions. Maybe that was his thought process on it.
Starting point is 00:58:38 But I think he was just, it sounded better. A $15 high to take away a million dollars. It would have sounded not as fun if it said a $15 high to take away a $700,000 career. They would have said, you know, that could have been snappier, I think. I think you're still high, Dexter. You don't make bumper stickers, do you? It's not very snappy. Over the course of his career, 143 games because he's done in the NFL now.
Starting point is 00:58:58 This is it for that. 97.5 sacks, which is fantastic. My God. That is top tier. That's really, really excellent. There's not a lot of guys who have in the 100 sack level. That's Hall of Fame status career. Absolutely. It's close. It really is.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Dexter, by 1992 If it weren't for that pesky banning. Damn banning. Keep banning me. Goddamn cocaine. So next year, 1992, Dexter's wife, they're to the point where Dexter's wife will not let him leave the house with more than $10 in his pocket. He is being monitored by him.
Starting point is 00:59:25 She knows. I picture him rolling up a 20 and sticking it up his ass to get out of the house like he's in prison. You know what I mean? He's got a 20 jammed in his crack just in case. You never know. Oh, that one hurt. Jesus, that hurt. She made him.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Jimmy loves it when you jam money up somebody's ass. It was funny to me because I saw it happen. Saw the visual? Like him in the bathroom? Like, I'm going to shove money up somebody's ass. It was funny to me because I saw it happen. Saw the visual? Like him in the bathroom, like, I'm going to shove this up my ass quick. Well, we're talking about coke, and you roll up bills to do coke, so I didn't know where you were going. And then you just went with Jim. For later. He needs it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 What if I need to get high? It was surprising. It was sneaky. She makes him empty his pockets, takes all his credit cards and shit like that, like tries to send him out. Sounds like an untrusting wife. You know he's got money up his ass. Do you blame her for Christ's sake? I don't blame her at all.
Starting point is 01:00:10 She's got all the reason in the world. It's just like, fuck. Yeah, she was so, there's a big thing about when he got the last test basically that he failed. She said, she does this whole thing about where she's so embarrassed and she can't believe it and he, you know, embarrassed his whole family and everybody believed in him and we were trying and he couldn't stop and he was just, she basically said, you were sober for a year. You know how to be sober.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Why can't you do this, basically. Because he wasn't. Because he wasn't sober. But in 1992, let me ask you a question, Jimmy. Let's say you've been in the NFL. Let's say you've done horrible things. You've failed a bunch of drug tests. Where do you go when the NFL doesn't want you
Starting point is 01:00:45 anymore you know when i get really lonely i like to call my family and go home no no no he goes to canada to play football because that's what every complete nfl disaster does the canadians don't give a shit they're like i've heard of him sign him up hey so uh he signs with the Ottawa Rough Riders. Yes. He'll make between $70,000 and $80,000. Oh, my God. That's a 90% pay cut. Dexter will be the subject of random drug tests as part of his contract, which seems reasonable. Also, too, he has a column for the Ottawa Sun, which he says, quote,
Starting point is 01:01:19 a guy sort of helped me write. No shit he did. I was just going there. You are very limited in your reading and writing. You're making 80 grand a year. Are you paying him or is the son paying you? Apparently this is common for when athletes have articles. They have a basic.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Ghost writer. He'll have an idea. Like, I want to talk about this and that and blah, blah, blah. And they're like, all right, I'll write it. Put it in sentences that human beings can read. We'll talk about this and that. I'll go talk about this and that. I'll figure it out. Yeah. I'll go talk about this and that.
Starting point is 01:01:47 He also hosts a radio show in Ottawa. And he'll keep hosting and coming on to radio shows later on. Now, he's excited to be in Ottawa. He says, in their own words about this, quote, I never thought in a million years that I'd be playing again. I've lost my rights in the NFL. This is the next best thing. He's basically saying, can you believe how stupid these fucking people are? It's incredible.
Starting point is 01:02:06 They gave me four chances. I fucked them all up. Four months of the year, this place is covered in coke. Covered in it. I'm going to give it a shot. It might be good. We'll never know.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I'm going to snort Canada. He's so dumb, he would try it. Snort my way from here to Saskatoon. I think I can't. So September 92, you barely can read. You got kicked out of the league. You're playing in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:02:26 You release a book, of course. You need to release a book called Educating Dexter. It came out about his reading struggles and all that type of shit. There's an article in October of 1992 about how Dexter can read now. They make a big deal about how he reads the menu at hula hands with no trouble oh jesus they literally there's a thing where he's like i'll take this burger blah blah blah and he goes wait hold on a second i changed my mind i'd like this burger but without that like you know see i read it on the menu they're very hula hand i think there's pictures on the
Starting point is 01:02:56 fucking menu first of all but he's very impressed by the hula hands menu he claims he has not done cocaine since february of 92's good. He's clean. Two sons and a daughter. He's ready to face the world. It's just awesome that they put an article out bragging that he can read. There's a million articles about him. Hey, he's literate now. Isn't this great?
Starting point is 01:03:16 Because they're promoting the book. That's so fucking amazing. They have to show, look, he reads. Ridiculous. Now he wrote a book. He just learned how to read and now he wrote a book. I wish that people gave so much shit about me that they'd write some article when i when i learned some new trade just learned anything jimmy learned how to draw dicks really well jimmy learned what the capital
Starting point is 01:03:33 of spain was so jimmy's so good at geography he entered a geography b jimmy's found out what the scrum was in rugby now it's's going to write a book about it. That's what it basically is. If we said, no, we know about rugby. Let's write a book about it. He knows how to read. He can write now. We're going to write shit about it.
Starting point is 01:03:52 That's so crazy. Now, on his drug problem, he said, Dexter Manley said in their own words, quote, my kids mean more than drugs, but not all the time. I get that first hit and drugs are more important i never escalated i didn't free base i didn't inject i just snorted what the fuck this is his like i'm a i just i've been snorting everything but i didn't inject it i love that for sometimes but not all the time sometimes i really want my kids are everything to me. Unless there's Coke. Unless there's Coke in your body.
Starting point is 01:04:27 You got any Coke on you? No? All right, then I love my kids. That is amazing. So 1993, despite having a terrible year with Ottawa where he wasn't ready to play, they re-sign him, okay? Teammates are publicly speaking out about this. I was watching all these interviews with Canadian guys.
Starting point is 01:04:41 It was hilarious. Offensive lineman Glenn Kulka of the team said, quote, we still don't feel that he's going to fit into our system. And I still truly believe that, but time will only tell. And our management, or the ownership, I should say, has made the decision to give him a shot. Now that he's here, all we can do is give him a shot. Those fucking idiots here are ruining everything.
Starting point is 01:04:58 They hired him. What are we going to do? I guess run him out there. Whatever. That is a long way to say talk to my boss. Talk to the Biden of shit. I didn't hire him. Even in their own words on re-signing with Ottawa, quote, in their own words from Dexter, quote,
Starting point is 01:05:12 Last year I failed. This year I won't fail. It's sort of like Rocky No. 2. He didn't fail that last one. He failed the first one, but he didn't fail the second. I won't fail this one. You can take that to the bank. Except for you told me that you're a liar, a
Starting point is 01:05:25 con man, and a cheat. I'd like to refer back to the I am a con man, a manipulator, a liar, and a cheat. So anytime you hear anything, have those words ringing in your head here. 1993, same year with Ottawa. Ownership demands that the coaches play
Starting point is 01:05:42 manly, and so the defensive line coach Jim Daly and defensive coordinator Mike Roach both quit in protest. I'm sure they found work as like a curling coach or something. There's like eight football teams up there, and they're like, I quit. They're like, that's pretty ballsy, dude. I don't know. Not a lot going on. I think I'd stick with it, bro.
Starting point is 01:05:57 I think you just take it. You're like a manager to fucking Hortons. Yeah, manager. Go get the hula hands. You know the menu? Yeah. So 1993, his wife Glenda divorces him, obviously. Plus, when they're done with football, this happens with athletes.
Starting point is 01:06:09 When they're done in their home, they're like, now what do I do with this crazy asshole? He hasn't written her a card in so many years. No. Now, 1994, he's done with football. He's done with Ottawa. Of course. There's only one thing to do when you're done with football and you're in a bad place. You move back home. Back home. Rule number, like, three. Do not move back to your home. That's only one thing to do when you're done with football and you're in a bad place. You move back home.
Starting point is 01:06:25 Back home. Rule number, like, three. Do not move back to your home. That's where I was going earlier. Good God. He moves back to Houston. You stupid asshole. Third ward.
Starting point is 01:06:34 He says about Houston, quote, I really started using drugs then. Oh, I'll bet. Before he wasn't. He was kicked out of the NFL and Canada and everything else. He wasn't using drugs. But now he really got it. Now I'm really going to tie one on. And he does.
Starting point is 01:06:47 By fall of 1994, his Mercedes is repossessed and he's homeless. And he's got an $8,000 a week cocaine habit and no home or car. And no job. And we have an in their own words about this Houston situation. In their own words, quote, drugs were really accessible in Houston. You've lost your career. Your wife is gone. Your kids are gone. And you still think you're on cloud nine cocaine makes you think you're on top
Starting point is 01:07:09 of the world i had money when i went to houston in nine months i was homeless i was living on the steps on the doorstep of the ymca where they'd have to run me off do you hear that anybody that does coke right now that's what happens what the fuck holy shit lived on the doorstep of the YMCA. Doorstep of the YMCA. His home was seven square feet. So now you know. Outside of operating hours. Yeah, while they're shooing him off. Hey, get out of here.
Starting point is 01:07:32 That's the other thing, too. They're shooing him the fuck off this whole time. Get out of here, you vagrant. I don't even know what to say about that. I used to be Dexter Manley. Dude, this guy, think about it. Let's break this down for one second. He moves to Houston, back to his hometown.
Starting point is 01:07:45 He was probably thinking, yeah, I got a little bit of a problem, but I'm going home. I got a brand new car. As he said, he had a brand new 94 Mercedes. This was a 94. He's got a brand new car. He has money in the bank, at least in his pockets. He's not a multimillionaire anymore, but he's got enough money where he feels good for the very second. Goes back, goes to talk to people.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Kids mean everything to him at this point. Everything to him. Everything. But also, he is a con man, a manipulator, a to talk to people. Kids mean everything to him at this point. Everything to him. Everything. But also he is a con man, a manipulator, a liar, a cheat. And he spends, how do you not? You go there, you have all this shit. You moved home, you've lost your career, you've lost your wife, you've lost everything. I get the depression and wanting to just bury yourself in something, drugs,
Starting point is 01:08:21 some activity that doesn't remind you of this shit all the time. But drugs are what lost you all this shit all the time but drugs are what lost you all this shit and now you're losing your fucking everything he's sleeping on the steps of ymca when it happens though and you start to get into that and run back to the to depression and then you run back to your addiction a lot of times it's just it's just a friend fucking pookie on the street goes well i'll get you high once that'll make you forget about it but and the YMCA, that's where homeless people sleep.
Starting point is 01:08:48 That's where people with no money go to sleep is at the YMCA. He can't even get in there. How big of a fuck up do you have to be to not be allowed in the front steps of the YMCA? I'm like, oh shit. I just imagine before that he'd be like pulling up in his Mercedes and they're like, oh, it's Dexter. And I'm like, get out of here. They're shooting him off
Starting point is 01:09:04 with a broom. So it's only a matter of time. The guy with the jacket is back. It's only a matter of time until it's November 13th, 1994. Oh boy. And he is arrested for possession of a controlled substance. Of course. He spends 9th December of 1994 at the Betty Ford Clinic, which I don't know how the hell
Starting point is 01:09:23 he got in the Betty Ford Center at all. How the fuck does he afford that? I don't know. I don't know if the hell he got in the Betty Ford Center at all. How the fuck does he afford that? I don't know. I don't know if the state appointed or some shit. I don't even know. The Betty Ford is expensive. And I'm thinking, too, this is pre when like nowadays, I feel like if you're retired and you have a problem, I think the NFL
Starting point is 01:09:37 has a program for that. Like fucking World Wrestling Entertainment has a program for that where they send out a letter to everybody that's ever worked there. Well, they've got it. Hey, if you have an issue, we'll pay for it. So I think, I don't know if the league, I don't even know. The union pension or some shit. That's what I'm thinking. Is it something in the union provisions?
Starting point is 01:09:51 But if it was, then there'd probably be a whole lot less guys being a complete fucking disaster up until that point. You know what I'm saying? It's nuts. So he spends that in the Betty Ford clinic, which isn't great for him. So terrible. Christmas with Betty Ford. Is it his rap album? It is.
Starting point is 01:10:08 That's his rap album, Christmas with Betty. Now, January 24th, 1995, so he just gets out of rehab. He is at the Marriott Hotel West Loop in Houston. He's having a hard time. He's a mess. He apparently runs up a very large phone bill there in the hotel. Because back then, and still now, too, it's a hotel time. He's a mess. He apparently runs up a very large phone bill there in the hotel. Because back then, and still now too, there's a hotel recently and
Starting point is 01:10:27 they still want like, it's like after the first 10 minutes, it's like $1.50 a minute for a local call. And we have cell phones. So who the fuck is ever using that now? Who's using that phone? Back then you had to. So he was using the phone and he was unable to pay the phone bill. So he just barricaded himself in his room.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Oh my God. So management couldn't get him and they they couldn't get him, and he wouldn't come out. And they were like, you know, they kind of got tired of his act here, so they called the cops on him. Hey, by the way, your phone bill is still cheaper than every night's rent that you're not paying. That you're not paying either. So they call the police, and the police come, and they have to, like, break into his room basically to get him out.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And so they arrest him for theft of services. Yeah. Or the phone bill. That's what that fucking amounts to. He gets in the cop car. They take him to the police station. They get him out of the cop car. And then they go through the back seat and they find a crack pipe in the back seat.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Full of cocaine residue. Who left this? Who left this back here? Who'd you arrest before me? Oh, yeah. Dexter. Oh, yeah. He's the guy.
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Starting point is 01:13:29 In the early 90s, a Marriott was pretty nice. That was nice. That's decent. At least that's like mid-level shit right here. This is not. He's at a motel, and he is depressed. I don't blame him at this point. He's completely depressed, and he calls a Houston sportscaster who works for a local TV station named Steve
Starting point is 01:13:45 Buckhance and Buckhance and him, Dexter worked for this radio station. Okay, this was the one he was on before. He was on this TV station so he knew this guy very well and he called him. Think about this too. He hasn't worked there. This is a guy he worked with years ago.
Starting point is 01:14:02 He hasn't worked with this guy in a while and he's in a room and he's feeling suicidal. Oh, God. And he has nobody to call but an ex-coworker. Wow. That's sad to me. It's really sad. That's a man that won the fucking Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:14:17 He has NFC championship rings. Yeah. And he's calling a guy he talked to 15 years ago to tell him that he doesn't feel so good. And he told him that he was threatening suicide. He said he was going to kill himself. So Steve, Buck Shantz, a good friend, he calls the police and says he's in this
Starting point is 01:14:35 hotel. Go get him. He's going to kill himself. Which anybody would do for their friend, I think. When they get there, they find him and he also has a bunch of cocaine on him. They arrest him for possession of a controlled substance. I'm going to kill myself right after I do all this coke. Right after I do all this coke. So, yeah, he's – now, see, now this is – so that's January, February.
Starting point is 01:14:53 He was arrested in November. He's having a bad period here. Houston has done this. He moved back to Houston less than a year and a half ago, and he's already homeless and being arrested constantly. Don't move home. And suicidal. And suicidal, yeah, which I don't fucking blame him for. He has all this shit.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Now, July 25th 1995, Dexter is arrested by Harris County Organized Crime and Narcotics Task Force. Oh, God. He was apparently hanging out in some drug spots and buying drugs in some drug spots where the vice squad is working.
Starting point is 01:15:24 They were investigating this for a long time and he had the the bad luck of doing buying shit from that day of course from the spot of the day they were going to raid this shit right and basically they chase him down the highway he's on a freeway they pull him over on the freeway they you know because they watched him buy it and everything like that they pull him over on the freeway when When officers attempt to arrest him, he runs down the freeway. He starts running down the shoulder of the freeway. Not even like into the woods, down the shoulder of the freeway. Problem was there was a news camera there that caught this entire thing.
Starting point is 01:15:56 Oh, my God. This was broadcast back to Washington, back to his kids saw this on television. Oh, no. His kids saw him, cops attempting to arrest him, and him running down the freeway and then being caught by the cops, and also to, when he was caught, guess what he had on him? A whole bunch of crack. He's got some crack on him.
Starting point is 01:16:17 Oh, he's got crack now. Crack now. He's escalated down a crack. He's not a druggie, though, remember. De-escalated. Remember, he's a con man, a manipulator, a liar, and a cheat, but he's not a druggie. That is one thing that he is not. He has pride.
Starting point is 01:16:30 Don't you dare put him in that category. So he was being held for driving without a license and being investigated for the drugs because they wanted to see if he had any other investigative— I'm dying to know what kind of car that was. —link into that group. I have no idea. It didn't say. I want to know so bad.
Starting point is 01:16:44 It wasn't a Mercedes. No. It was a fucking Tercel with like, the fenders were different colors. Bald tires. He borrowed it from somebody he went to high school with. A fucking rented tire on the back. So August 4th, 1995, Dexter pleads guilty to two counts of possession of cocaine. This is from two of his older arrests.
Starting point is 01:17:05 I believe it's the February and the January. He is sentenced to four years in prison. Oh, God. That's no shit. He gets four years in August of 95. He doesn't do the whole four years, though. He's out in November 96. Good behavior.
Starting point is 01:17:19 Good behavior. And it was funny, too. There's an article about when he was in prison, how he was a high-profile inmate. Everybody knew him. Of course. There was this big article about how security is a big problem in prisons when they have a high-profile guy like that because they don't know people are going to try to
Starting point is 01:17:34 mess with him or try to kill him. It's bad publicity for the jail when someone famous gets killed in it, basically. Somebody with 19 sacks in the NFL is knifed. That's two Super Bowl rings. It's probably that we don't. Somebody with 19 sacks in the NFL is knifed. Someone with 97 and a half sacks. Right, for his career.
Starting point is 01:17:47 That's two Super Bowl rings. It's probably that we don't want to have him bleeding out in the commissary. So, you know, let's try. Let's not have him knifed by the Aryan Brotherhood. That'd be good. That'd be good. He's already got a big scar. So November 1996, he's paroled.
Starting point is 01:18:01 So he's out. He's out on the street. Two years. Two years. Less than two years. Year and a half, he finds a woman. Quickly. 1997, he's out. He's out on the street. Two years. Two years. Less than two years. Year and a half. He finds a woman. Quickly.
Starting point is 01:18:08 1997, he gets married. Because when things are going wrong in your life. You find love. And you moved home to your hometown. Time to get married. You're getting arrested for cocaine. You got to get married. There's only, Jesus, have some kids quick.
Starting point is 01:18:19 Hurry up. Get her pregnant. If there's ever a time in your life to get married, and you may as well do it when you're flat-ass broke because at least you don't have shit to lose. I don't know where he... This woman is an angel, basically. Yeah. Her name's Lydia. They went to high school together. He's known her since high school.
Starting point is 01:18:34 She was the high school valedictorian. Wow. So she can read. Yeah. She can read. She can read, but clearly her life has gone downhill, too. No. What?
Starting point is 01:18:42 She went to Howard University on a full scholarship. Oh, my God. Full scholarship, valedictorian, and is an engineer. She's an engineer, and she's going to marry a guy that's got a crack habit? This fucking dum-dum with Dex Tard as his license plate. You can't spell engineer. Oh, he could never spell engineer. I had to think about engineer for a second.
Starting point is 01:19:01 Those double E's. Yeah, I had to think about it. So this guy's like, what does your wife do? I can't spell it, but I'll tell you. You know what I mean? She runs trains and shit. She can't.
Starting point is 01:19:10 He can't spell valedictorian scholarship or engineer. Any of those things about his wife. spelling Howard. I don't know shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I know a guy named Howard. So 1998, things are getting bad for Dexter. He goes into a pawn shop in 1998. Oh, no. Pouring sweat, sweating profusely.
Starting point is 01:19:29 He's a sweaty guy anyway. If you see him now. The bubbles are popping off him. He's got sweat. I mean, he is sweat pouring off. He takes out his 1983 Super Bowl ring, the one against the Dolphins, his first one, and he sells it for $1,000. $1,000 he sells it for.
Starting point is 01:19:46 You think we can get it for that? There's a story. I'll tell you what happened to that ring. Okay. This is altogether, by the way, in his life, he would end up so far now going to 30. This is funny, 37, another 37, 37 scholarship offers. He went to 37 trips to rehab. So he went from 37 scholarships to 37 rehabs. That's impressive.
Starting point is 01:20:06 That's a life right there. That's a bookend, let me tell you. No doubt. So 1999, he's with his friend. That defines this podcast. That defines the success and then the fucking crash. 37 universities
Starting point is 01:20:22 are scouting you and want you terribly. 37 universities are scouting you and want you. Yeah. Bad. Terribly. Bad. 37 places will give you a scholarship, and now you have 37 scholarships to rehab. Insane, right? 37 rehab scholarships. That's terrible.
Starting point is 01:20:36 He's the king of rehab, this guy. 1999, next year, he's on a plane. He's boarding a plane to Canton, Ohio for some football-related thing. The Hall of Fame. Yeah, but I don't think it was the actual induction. He's going to go visit. He'll go see some busts. It was some event. I think he was going to just sniff the air
Starting point is 01:20:56 and be like, these guys aren't on a bunch of cocaine. They haven't been banned from the league for life. Oh, look, that guy was drafted the same year as me. Oh, no. Look at that. Oh, wow. Okay. That's not great. Hey, look, Howie Long's on television. We were drafted. Okay, I'm going to stop now.
Starting point is 01:21:08 Never mind. The only guy who he doesn't feel jealous of is Lawrence Taylor, who's getting arrested as much as him at this point. That's it. The only fucking guy. But still had a better career. But still played. He was so good that they didn't even care about the cocaine.
Starting point is 01:21:18 They were like, you just keep snorting. They didn't care that he was locking his head coach out of practice. Didn't matter. They didn't give a fuck. Ever watch him play? Look up his highlight reel and tell me it mattered. Yeah practice. Didn't matter. Didn't give a fuck. Ever watch him play? Look up his highlight reel and tell me it mattered. Yeah, it doesn't matter. So Dexter boards the plane.
Starting point is 01:21:29 It's a lifetime friend of his named John O'Quinn. John O'Quinn surprises him on the plane, giving him his Super Bowl ring back. What? He went out. He purchased the ring for $15,000. This asshole at the pawn shop had quite the fucking markup. That guy's a dick. He's a dick. He purchases it as a surprise for Dexter.
Starting point is 01:21:50 Dexter tells him, no. He tells him, please hold on to that for me. Because I'll sell it again. He literally said, I don't trust myself. He said he couldn't trust himself, that he wouldn't pawn it again. He said, quote, I had another run in me. So that tells you, I wasn't done yet. I was going to be on them YMCA steps pretty goddamn quick.
Starting point is 01:22:07 I was planning on it about 8 o'clock tonight, so you might want to keep that ring in your pocket. I don't want to waste your 15 grand. I was already fixing a Google YMCA's in Canton. That's it. So, I mean, you hang on to that, please. By the way, can you get a cot in your hotel room and I'll just sleep there? I don't need much. I'm cool.
Starting point is 01:22:22 You got a front step I can use? You may want to rip the phone out of the fucking wall, though. Because I will use it, god damn it. This is all going to your credit card, right? Yeah. Mind if I use the phone quick? Real quick. I'm not going to take long.
Starting point is 01:22:35 Hold on. Leave the room, though. It's going to take a while. So January 10, 2001. He's arrested for cocaine possession. Again, big shocker. He's back up to cocaine again, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:45 Listen to how dumb this one. Oh, God. At least before, like they had reason to talk to him. The police. This is just him being an idiot. OK, it's at the Infinity Hotel in Houston. Police. This is unreal.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Police were serving a search warrant or serving a warrant to arrest someone else. Had nothing to do with Dexter. Didn't know the guy. They were not there for Dexter Manley. They were there for some other guy. This is 2001. This is 2001. So these cops probably don't even remember him.
Starting point is 01:23:15 Probably not. This Dex-tard, what he does, he drops his crack pipe because the cops are there and he gets paranoid like, oh, they're here for me because everybody needs to, you know, he's a narcissist. He drops his crack pipe and takes the cocaine out of his pocket and swallows it right in front of the cops. Cops heard the crack pipe hit the ground, looked at him, and he's swallowing a thing of cocaine. So they go over. They go, hey, Bob, you want to get the guy we came for? I'm going to go grab him quick.
Starting point is 01:23:42 And then they go over and arrest him because he's a fucking moron. We'll double up on our fucking quota this month. It's okay. Call someone else in with another car. He's arrested for evidence tampering for the cocaine, possession of cocaine. He's got a paraphernalia with the pipe and everything. Now, March 19, 2002, he's convicted of possession of cocaine. He agrees to let the judge suggest sentencing and do the sentencing because they said, do you want the judge or the jury?
Starting point is 01:24:07 Because he had an option whether the judge or the jury would sentence, and he says, I'll let the judge do it because at this point, he's had good luck with people on benches feeling bad for him basically. Senators have felt bad for him. He figures he can put one by a fucking judge, a local Houston area judge. Now, he pleads guilty. Like I said, he's convicted of all this right he must come back in for a pre-sentencing meeting he's released on twenty thousand dollars bond this is march 19th he's got to be back on march 22nd for a pre-sentencing meeting yeah with him and the da and his lawyers and they're going to talk about whatever uh march 22nd fails to show up for the
Starting point is 01:24:39 pre-sentencing meeting obviously judge issues a warrant for his arrest yeah so he's on the lam now jesus he's gone he's going he's been fucking everywhere he's been in and out of prison somehow his wife is still with him there's that run he had left in him this is the run he had left in him he's got a super bowl ring sitting in some guy's safe to literally in some guy's safe because he can't he's he can't even possess the super bowl ring because he doesn't trust himself that he won't sell it he doesn't trust himself how's anybody else supposed it. He doesn't trust himself. How is anybody else supposed to? He's out wandering the streets.
Starting point is 01:25:06 He has $10 in his fucking pocket. And he's like, what can I buy for $10? I don't know. I guess I'll get some shawarma. And he goes into a place. And it's the shawarma man. And he says. How is it you've come to arrive here?
Starting point is 01:25:22 Man, why are you here, man? Are you? You no read. I'm not. I'm no from country I read still. You dumb. I write C menu. I write that. Maybe that's why you don't know why signs say close.
Starting point is 01:25:32 Signs say close. You don't even know. You want shawarma? Look at the menu. That word come from me. I write. You saw stew. You have ring, beautiful big ring.
Starting point is 01:25:41 You sell? You sell for what? For cocaine? You dumb, man. Signs say closed. I don't know. I'm not. No shawarma for you.
Starting point is 01:25:48 No. Okay, fine. You want lamb? I make for you. I make for you. It's okay. That's what I do. I make shawarma.
Starting point is 01:25:53 I make for you. It's okay. Hey, there you go. I cut the pizza. No cocaine. I have a problem. I have a problem, though. So you eat and you leave because you can't stay here.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Two minutes later, we'll both be in a hotel room. My friend come out and ask if we want to party. I swallow cocaine. It's not good. It's bad. It's bad. I don't like it. Signs say closed.
Starting point is 01:26:13 So March 29th, a week later, 2002, Dexter is sentenced to the maximum sentence for this crime. Maybe he should have went with the jury. Get some sympathy from them. District Judge Elsa Alcala said, quote, I do think that you need drug treatment. I do see that you need mental health counseling because you are so self-destructive. But I also think you need to be punished. Elsa doesn't watch football. No.
Starting point is 01:26:35 She could give a fuck. She even said later on, too, that, you know, he might have been a famous guy out there in the courtroom. He's just another defendant. She hit it. She banged him extra hard to say that I'm not putting up with that shit in my court i'm not a silver-haired middle-aged white man and i don't watch the nfl i could give a fuck about you don't care you sir may fuck off two years oh two years in jail for that for swallowing a crack rock in front of tampering with evidence that's yeah that's pretty steep that's steep man that is that's honestly kind
Starting point is 01:27:01 of rough i was like whoa two years j. Jesus Christ. That's a lot. That's like, what the fuck, man? So March 4th, 2004, he's released from prison. He served about two years in prison, give or take a month or so. Did the courts give him any sort of treatment that he must undergo? He's got to undergo some treatment. He claims that from October 2004 to October 2005, he was clean. He says he stayed clean that whole time.
Starting point is 01:27:24 But what is he? What is what? What is he? He's a manipulator? He's a liar. He's a liar. He's a con man, manipulator, liar, and a cheat. And a cheat, right.
Starting point is 01:27:33 But, Jimmy, not a druggie. He's good now. He's good now. He wasn't doing the cocaine. He was just swallowing it. He was holding it for someone else inside the lining of his stomach. That's all he was doing. I'm just going to put it down here for later.
Starting point is 01:27:46 So on February 1, 2006, his son, Dexter Manley Jr., actually does something good. He signs a letter of intent to go to Oregon University to play football for old Chip Kelly up there. So he's actually going to go have a good time. He ends up transferring later on. He's a bit of a washout. He's not a washout. He's a good player, and he also go have a good time. Good. He ends up transferring later on. He's a bit of a... Washout? He's not a washout.
Starting point is 01:28:06 He's a good player, and he also seems like a nice kid, but it seems like he's had a tough upbringing, and he's not quite that stable. Is there a little bit of Dexter in him? He has a learning disability, too, like his dad. He had the same kind of problem, but they actually, you know... They diagnosed it, figured it out. They diagnosed it. His mother sent him to a special...
Starting point is 01:28:21 No child left behind. His mother sent him to a special school to help him and all that shit. Oh, is it because dad had millions of dollars? Yeah. They said they would put him in a cab to school every day. It's that sort of thing. Like, I can't afford to send my kids to school in a cab every day. Me neither.
Starting point is 01:28:34 Not even Uber. There's a bus over there. Fucking walk your ass. So, yeah, June 16, 2006 now. He was sober for that little week. Claims he was sober. Dexter goes out at night. He talks about how he had triggers for things.
Starting point is 01:28:50 He said, I was driving my car this night, and I had, I think he said he had Barry White playing on the stereo. It was something like that, and it was in a nice car, in a new car with good music playing smooth. So sexy. And he said it was a trigger for him. Hell yeah. He just couldn't help it. That was a trigger. Like that cool, good life.
Starting point is 01:29:07 Rather than this feels good, I don't want to be in prison. He's like, this is good, but I need to go to jail for two years. This feels good, but you know what would feel better? To be chased down the freeway by police officers as I jam crack down my throat. That would be much better. I think that would be what I'm going for. You know what would feel better is if I heard screaming while I was laying on a concrete bed. That would feel so great.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Or if I get kicked off the YMCA steps. So Dexter, by the middle of the night, he is high and wandering the street. He has ditched his car. He's out wandering the street. A bunch of police officers surround him. They say that he – the cops said he looked high, but that wasn't their concern. They said there was something wrong with him, clearly. Like he wasn't comprehending things like beyond being high and they were like, there's something
Starting point is 01:29:50 fucking wrong with this guy. So rather than arresting him, they were merciful. They actually took him to the hospital where he, he was belligerent at the hospital. He didn't want to be there. He was happy to not be arrested, but he was belligerent until they send him home. They were like, fuck this guy. They sent him home. They were like, fuck this guy. They sent him home. He ends up having the next day, his wife takes him to Georgetown Hospital where he must undergo 15 hours of surgery to remove that cyst from his brain from 1986 that has now grown and caused a lot of swelling in his brain.
Starting point is 01:30:20 That's what's going on. And he didn't even know where he was that night. He was just kind of out there. Good God. Claims that when he got done with the surgery, he was so thankful for life that he decided that he didn't want to roll the dice anymore and he wanted to live. He also said, and this is the biggest load of shit I've ever heard. He says the tumor removal made him no longer want cocaine. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 01:30:43 He just had it. Jimmy. They found in his medulla oblongata. It was just a little like in the back of a doll, like by the battery. He had a little cocaine activator switch, and they just had to turn it off. That's the problem. This whole time, my cocaine need was in the tumor. They forgot to turn him off.
Starting point is 01:31:00 That's all it was. That's all it was. All he needed to do was flick that little switch. He blamed all of us. The one that says, not the try me switch. No. Flip it was. All he needed to do was flick that little switch. He blamed Paul. Not the try me switch. Flip it to play and I'm good. This is the ultimate. I'm good now.
Starting point is 01:31:11 This is the ultimate I'm good now. This is the ultimate I'm fucking good now. Yeah, what the hell. What? Unbelievable. I don't even know how to respond to that. He'd said that the tumor caused his cocaine addiction. Now he's fine. Doesn't ever want it again. That is fascinating.
Starting point is 01:31:27 So in 2009, John O'Quinn, our friend with the Super Bowl ring, dies in a car accident. Oh no! He's dead. Dexter doesn't have his ring back yet. That was 10 years ago. Dexter contacts the estate about his ring. They tell him that John put a special clause in his will about the ring. This guy took
Starting point is 01:31:44 care of the ring in his will. I think he was a lawyer, this guy, too. Smart man. He said that basically the only person that the estate will talk to about the ring is his wife, Lydia. Nice. Won't give it to him. Has to go through Lydia. And also, Dexter has to have a certain amount of clean time
Starting point is 01:32:00 according to Lydia to get this ring back. Nice. So it's like this big thing where he has to not be a jerk off. He has to have to be pretty sure he's not going to pawn it in the next six months. Probably, I think, is what they're going for here. Now, at this point, I mean, Jesus Christ, man. Talk about a career. He's come up.
Starting point is 01:32:16 He's gotten stabbed with a box cutter. His fucking brother got killed. I mean, Jesus, he goes in the NFL. He acts like an idiot. He talks shit. He gets suspended all the time. He's still a idiot. He talks shit. He gets suspended all the time. Still a hero. Coach is fired.
Starting point is 01:32:27 He's been arrested. He's got to put his wife and his kids through fucking hell. They finally give up, divorce him, tear apart the family, moves back to his hometown. He's homeless. He's being arrested. He's jamming crack down his throat, running down the fucking freeway. I mean, he's a menace to society. What a disaster.
Starting point is 01:32:43 I feel bad for all these people, Jimmy. I feel so bad for all these people. Get out of here. How many fucking people did you find? Not nearly as bad as I feel for Dexter Manley, an interior decorator in the New York City area. Dexter, so manly.
Starting point is 01:33:00 I love manly. That seems like a very flamboyant gay man. He's like, I'm Dexter Manley. Dexter Manley. I love men. Yeah, that seems like a very flamboyant gay man. He's like, I'm Dexter Manley. Dexter Manley, pleased to meet you. He didn't even, he wasn't even born with that name. He picked it, and then people were like, dude, do you realize that was a football player? I don't care.
Starting point is 01:33:15 I don't even care. I don't care. Nobody knows. I don't care. He even stands with his hands, like, on his hips, all fucked up, like, upside down. Yeah, yeah, I feel like he does that a lot, too. He's like, I don't give a fuck. I will design the shit out of your room.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Don't think I won't. We're going to Brooklyn. I'm Dexter and I'm Manley. Let me tell you something. I feel like that's a guy. I feel like that's him. Dexter Manley, president of Tabloid Exclusion, a broadcast media company in Brooklyn, New York.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Another one in New York. Another one in New York. And Dexter Manley Jr., I feel bad for, his son, who is now a sales manager at Park Place Motor Cars, Mercedes-Benz in Dallas. Oh, no. I'm 99% sure that's his son. There's a picture of him. It looks just like his son.
Starting point is 01:33:58 I found him on some car dealership rating site. At least it's a Mercedes dealer. Yeah, but from Chip Kelly to selling cars, like playing in Oregon. This is what college football is, though. College football is 98% guys who are going to go get decent jobs selling cars through some booster that they knew.
Starting point is 01:34:16 He's going to go get a cushy job selling Mercedes. And then 2% of guys go to the NFL and do a bunch of cocaine and go to jail 20 times. That's college. Go to the NFL for three years and then wind up doing coke. Watch a college game. All those guys on the field, two of them will be in the NFL. The rest of them will be doing this.
Starting point is 01:34:31 That's it. They'll be selling Mercedes-Benz at a fucking, you know, at a dealership somewhere. So sad. It's sad because in 2009, Dexter Manley Jr. signed with the Hamilton Tiger Cats of the CFL. So again, he's going to Canada too. He's already there.
Starting point is 01:34:45 He might as well jam a 20 up his ass and just call himself Dexter Senior. It doesn't matter at this point. What's the difference? So, finally, in February of 2010, Dexter gets his Super Bowl ring back. Now, I assume they never mentioned the other ring. So I assume that he only sold this one. But if you were that destitute, what are you going to have, a goddamn Super Bowl ring hanging around? I would think he'd sell that. never said he said that was the ring
Starting point is 01:35:06 maybe maybe the wife somehow wrapped that one up like when she was going through his pockets and stuff right that's true pulling all the money lost in the divorce honestly it's possible i mean she she would she i'm sure she had some things to say where the court would have been like let's just give her whatever she wants whatever she wants wow has she put this guy through that fucking guy is in jail because as i as it says here the the you know kids were important but not when cocaine cocaine not so much when cocaine's there you know what i mean we should give her everything because he is a cheat a manipulator a liar that's true he did say that in the newspaper so why don't we just go ahead and give it to her uh on we have an in their own words on his super bowl ring here in their own
Starting point is 01:35:43 words i do cherish it i keep it in a safe deposit box. I was a young prize bull. Now I'm more experienced and more mature. I have a bright future days ahead in front of me from here on out. I don't think there's no more dark days. I know there's no more dark days. So he's good now. Yes.
Starting point is 01:35:58 He's good now, right? He cannot stop saying it. Jimmy, he's good. God damn it. So good. So good. July 17, 2012, he joins the NFL brain damage lawsuit. Of course he does.
Starting point is 01:36:08 He claims that the cyst on his brain was caused by football. Wow. So he's claiming the football caused the cyst on his brain, which caused his cocaine addiction. Which caused his life to be a complete mess. I have a 20 jammed up my ass on the YMCA steps because I played football. Basically, that's his blame. Full of shit. Wow.
Starting point is 01:36:28 By the way, his whole story is about this literacy thing. Do you know there's people at Oklahoma State who say that he's full of shit and he could read? Really? There are people who administered that test. I saw this on message boards, but it's not legitimate journalism. It's people like, I went to OSU and the lady I know said this, so I can't include that. This person said this. But even I have have fucking integrity look it up skip bailish you fucking frosty douche so anyway these people are saying when he did his entrance exam he was reading
Starting point is 01:36:55 at like a ninth grade level like he wasn't a genius but he was functional they said that's why in three days when he learned how to read it was because he already fucking knew that already that's that's the thing like they're saying that he probably, he figured out that he could get sympathy and they would be like, oh, how dare they do that to you? They didn't teach you how to read. Wow. You know, it's one of those things. Because he's a manipulator.
Starting point is 01:37:14 Yes, exactly. And a liar. And a con man. And a con man. And a cheat. And a cheat. It's so fucking funny, man. That's the best part of it, I think, is that whole.
Starting point is 01:37:22 That statement sums up his whole life. It sums up his whole life. It sums up his whole life. Just those words, that first sentence of that statement is so perfect and poignant to describe everything that is Dexter Manley. Rather than the grapefruit t-shirt, he should have made that t-shirt. I'm a liar. I'm a cheat. Just to warn people. Just to warn people.
Starting point is 01:37:41 Now, he's getting fun now, too. April 28, 2013. I'm getting fun. Now it's not cocaine. he's getting fun now, too. April 28, 2013. I'm getting fun. Now it's not cocaine. It's just stupidity in public. October 28, 2013, Dexter is on a radio show on WTOP in Washington, D.C. They ask him a question about there was a game that the Redskins played and Troy Aikman was the announcer. They said, was it a jinx having Troy Aikman up there?
Starting point is 01:38:03 Because the Redskins and Cowboys are giant rivals, if you don't know. And he said, quote, Troy Aikman was the announcer. They said, was it a jinx having Troy Aikman up there? Because the Redskins and Cowboys are giant rivals, if you don't know. And he said, quote, Troy Aikman's a queer. On live radio. Yes. The host literally went, whoa, hey, whoa, hey, we don't need that here. And he goes, oh, you know, you know. And the guy goes, right away the host said, do you want to apologize to Troy for saying that? And he goes, that's really not what we're trying to do here.
Starting point is 01:38:25 And he goes, nope, I meant it. He doubled down. And they're like, yeah, but man, you can't be saying this and that. He's like, no, no, I'm sorry I said that. But you know, I'm not going to apologize to Troy for it. It has nothing to do with anything. And they just cut the commercial. All right, we're here with Dexter Manley, and we'll be back later.
Starting point is 01:38:39 And then he was banned from the radio station. Never allowed. Troy Aikman's a queer. No longer. Troy Aikman's a queer he literally said was there a jinx you think because of Troy Aikman haha and he went yeah Troy Aikman's a queer okay interesting so there's a joke by Artie Lange about the the Eagles having a jail down below yeah the stadium and he said that somebody got arrested and was down there in front of the judge. And the judge goes, I'm going to throw the book at you unless you can give me a statement that justifies your actions. Give me a statement or else I'm going to throw the book at you.
Starting point is 01:39:15 And he goes, Troy Aikman's a fag. That's amazing. That'll probably get you let off in Philly. Jesus. So, man, that's awesome. I love that just everybody in that division from the Eagles to the fucking Redskins. That's a rumor that's been going around for 30 years that Troy Aikman is gay. So that's one of those things.
Starting point is 01:39:38 You can't call him a queer either. I apologize. I've done a bad gay accent. Sorry. And then we throw in queer and fag. He said queer i'm in the clear on this one i was quoting a joke yeah send your complaints to at wisman sucks not to me so all right 2015 the nfl network airs dexter manley a football Football Life, which is a really, really interesting documentary basically covering all the shit I said except in less detail. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Because it's not on crime and sports. Nobody has us. Nobody has our detail, Dan. Nobody has this. God damn it. So he's starting to go out and be – he's working and he's also doing public appearances. June 20th, 2015, there's a free event, Dexter Manley Live at the Father's Day Breakfast at Salem Fields Community Church.
Starting point is 01:40:28 Oh, that sounds luxurious. Oh, yeah. It says he'll also be guest speaker at the Sunday service, and this is a quote, giving you, quote, stories from his NFL career as well as his walk with Christ. Stories from his NFL career and his walk with Christ. He's going to tell you about his walk with Christ right after he tells you Troy Aikman's a queer. Hey, Troy Aikman's a queer now.
Starting point is 01:40:48 Let me tell you about Jesus. Wait till you hear what he says about Joe Namath. Wait till you hear what he says about Tom Brady. It's worse. It's worse than that. It's great. Giselle's a whore. Yeah, Giselle's a whore.
Starting point is 01:41:01 I walked with Jesus right into a cell. Jesus helped me get the cocaine from my ass he was my cellmate he was my cellmate we called him jesus oh so june 22nd 2015 he is at this point too he's working at a company called ce construction and property management in the dc metro area he's some sort of uh some sort of management person for this. He's a mascot, basically. Superintendent of something. Yeah, so there's a big fluff piece on him out there. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:41:29 The fluff pieces are coming hard and heavy now. It is June 22, 2015. He's called Troy Aikman a queer just two years ago on public television. Let's not write anything about how great of a man he is. The title of this fluff piece is called, quote, Faith Saved Former Football Star Dexter Manley from Fumbling Life. First of all, he has fumbled dozens of times. So that's a load of shit. I'm sitting here with my mouth.
Starting point is 01:41:55 I see you. You're like, are you fucking kidding me? How the fuck can you even write that and be like without writing that and then being like, can you fucking believe I'm going to write this? He talks about how he did drugs because of his low self-esteem and everything, and he says even, quote, in their own words on religion, quote, God is real. He answered my prayers. I had a praying grandmother, and he answered her prayers, too. I was lost, but now I'm found, and if I'm found, he can find you, too.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Oh, boy. He's a pitch man now. He learned the words to fucking- He's a pitch man now. And literally, they said after that, because he was at church doing that, they played Amazing Grace in the church club. They literally, like, he queued it up. He fucking queued it up.
Starting point is 01:42:32 So he's good now, right? Wraith has stopped him from fumbling life. Oh, my God. He found religion. Totally. Jun-Tan. He's breaking every fucking rule. The junior.
Starting point is 01:42:41 Yeah. Move back home. Everything. Fucking religion. Everything. Everything. Away from his silver-haired middle-aged woman. All of this shit. God, Jesus. Cocaine. He's every broken rule. The junior. Move back home. Everything. Fucking religion. Everything. Away from his silver hair, middle-aged woman, all of this shit. God, Jesus. Cocaine.
Starting point is 01:42:47 He's every broken rule. But now faith has saved him from a fumbling life. Right? It's good, right? He's good now. Everybody. Crime and sports. He's good now, right?
Starting point is 01:42:57 It's over. It's a happy life. June 10th, 2016, Manley is wanted for assault. Of who? Montgomery County Police say that it was a guy at his job at CE Construction that said that the guy was working. He was on his phone, and Manly came over and punched him, and he woke up in the hospital. That was it. He woke up in the hospital.
Starting point is 01:43:18 This is the best story that we've ever done. This is so fun. Unreal, man. Unreal. Now, January 2nd, I skipped over one thing to get to that because it was just too good to go right from church to that. But in January of 2016, he's on a show on CBS on television talking about football. I have him as an analyst. He's talking about Robert Griffin III, who's a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:43:39 And he says, quote, most of the black athletes, they like running. They're probably used to running from the law. Wow. He says that. And you see everybody just go, what the fuck? There's white guys around him that just distance. They're like, I can't look to be laughing at that. That's not going to be okay for me. I'm going to get fired if I laugh at that.
Starting point is 01:43:54 So he says that like a complete moron. Next day, Dexter apologizes for the black quarterback remark, saying, quote, I say some things I don't think about sometimes. Well, no shit, moron. Like Troy Aikman's a queer. I don't think Robert Griffith III has been in trouble with the law yet, has he? I don't think so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:44:11 I mean, he cheated on and got a girl pregnant while he was married to somebody else. But no, you know, he's a dick, but he's not a scumbag. So September 24th, 2015 here. Manley has a big rant on 106.7 radio in Washington. It's the fan on Tom Brady. Basically saying that Tom Brady is a piece of garbage. He'd take every quarterback in the league over him. He'd take Aaron Rodgers over him.
Starting point is 01:44:35 He'd take Matt Bryan over him. He'd take anybody. He named like five quarterbacks. Like, I'll take any of those. He can't even get a first down. He's not athletic at all. He's got things around him and a good coach. He's garbage.
Starting point is 01:44:44 He said, quote, Tom Brady couldn't even pack Joe Theismann's jock. Well, I mean. I think it's just hilarious. Couldn't pack his jock. Does he mean, like, put it in a duffel bag? Or does he mean, like, take Joe Theismann's dick and, like, put it into his jock strap? His own cock couldn't fill the expanses of Theismann's large jock. I think it's funnier to think that he couldn't take Joe Theismann's dick and put it into his jock's jock.
Starting point is 01:45:11 He said earlier about Joe Montana and his career when he first started playing, he said that he was going to ring his clock. What? I had an interview and they said, what? Do you mean ring his bell or clean his clock, sir? That's what he said. He goes, I guess you ring a bell and you clean a clock. I don't know. He was just like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:45:24 I'm going to ring his clock. I'm dextorted. I'm sorry. It bell or clean his clock. That's what he said. He goes, I guess you ring a bell and you clean a clock. I don't know. He was just like, I don't know. I'm going to ring his clock. I'm dextorted. I'm sorry. It happens. Since second grade. June 17, 2016, he celebrates 10 years sober, which I'm not buying for a fucking minute, but okay. I'm out.
Starting point is 01:45:37 So August 23, 2016, this is a few weeks later, a month later, he pleads guilty to assault of the man at CE Construction, receives one year probation, community service, anger management, and a $200 fine. So apparently it's backed off a little bit. Now, obviously, you love Dexter Manley, all you guys. And if you can't get enough of Dexter Manley, you need to go to his website, DexterManley.com. It looks terrible. The letters are all pixelated and everything is like up in the upper 10 of the screen like it's not spread it's terrible it's like nintendo
Starting point is 01:46:10 graphics it's like an illiterate guy on cocaine you know what i mean it's like it's just not very good the 20 up his ass there's a big flag up top a big header that says troy aikman's a queer queer aikman uh so it says on the banner on it says, quote, compassion, literacy, motivation. Because now he's a speaker also. Now, if you really got to get Educating Dexter, the fine publication, the book he put out in 92, written by Dexter and a guy named Tom Friend. More like Tom Friend. Tom Friend. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:46:41 You can go to Amazon.com. They have 39 copies used for as low as one cent and 15 new from four dollars. So you can get that real cheap. You can also sports memorabilia dot com. There's several autographed pictures and cards and mini helmets. You can get all of his pictures are autographed. Pictures are about thirty five bucks. They have one of him about to hit John Elway that you would enjoy very much. Also, an autographed jersey of his for $149.99 if you really need some Dexter. Or if you don't want the autograph, you just want to put on a Dexter jersey, stick a 20 up your ass and have people think you're a great guy,
Starting point is 01:47:14 you can go to NFLshop.com and get the Dexter Manley jersey for $139.99 there. Wow. Only an extra $10 for his autograph, so go for that. That's pretty amazing. It really is. Now, on January 6th. For an eight ball. Not bad.
Starting point is 01:47:27 Not even. Just for a tiny bit. Just a key bump. It's all good. You can get his autograph. January 6th, 2017 at the Tally Ho Theater in Leesburg, Virginia. They had the Legends of the Gridiron Show with Dexter Manley, John Riggins, and Joe Jacoby.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Quote, an intimate night of stories from the men who lived it. Tickets were 59 bucks a pop for that one. Holy shit. That's like going to a Redskins game. A big chunk of that was to pay John Riggins up. Let's be honest. They were like, Joe Jacoby, we could get some other just big white guy and say he's Joe Jacoby. Manley, he's got the scar, but he'll do shit for 20 bucks.
Starting point is 01:48:01 He'll show up for a rolled up 20. It's easy to jam in there. Put it up my ass because I've got to go home. I don't want my wife to find it. Also, too, if you seriously can't get enough of Dexter Manley and the book's not enough for you, the website's not enough for you. The personal appearance for $12. You need Dexter Manley to come to you and speak about something. You can go to SportsSpeakers360.com.
Starting point is 01:48:22 You can get Manley to speak in an event. There's a link for Manley's booking agent there. Can I guess? His quote? Yeah. Go ahead. I'm going to go with $350. $2,500 to $5,000 is his price range.
Starting point is 01:48:34 Holy shit. So if you want Dexter Manley, you've got to pony up at least $2,500. That is way too much. Way too much. And then another $2,500 in cocaine. It gets very expensive to have him there. And he's going to run up your phone bill. And he is currently working for Gali, G-A-L-I, Gali Service Industries, Inc.
Starting point is 01:48:50 It looks like a cleaning, like an industrial cleaning company. He's a janitor. He is. Dexter's on the website at galliservice.com as the director of public relations. Big smiley picture of him like it never happened. Just who I want to talk about my company. His picture is literally like, I'm good now. It's all right. So that's Dexter Manley. Oh. Big smiley picture of him like it never happened. Just who I want to talk about my company. His picture is literally like, I'm good now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:07 It's all right. So that's Dexter Manley. Jesus. Jesus. He's the PR guy for a company now. Yeah. He's the PR guy. He's a liar.
Starting point is 01:49:15 Well, actually, he's a liar, a cheat, a manipulator, a con man. That's perfect for a PR guy. You know what? Fucking PR. You're not wrong. He's the only honest PR guy in the world because he's the only one who's going to, everyone else are going to act like they're telling the truth. No.
Starting point is 01:49:27 Liar. And he'll tell you about it. Thank fuck for that. That's Dexter Manley, guys. Holy shit. Wow. Was that a trip or what? And Troy Aikman's a queer.
Starting point is 01:49:37 Queer. You know how much information that was? It's all separate. That was awesome. That was a tough one, man. That was a tough one to build. So fun. Glad we did it because it was a blast. Yeah. Guys, if like what you hear here please like once again get on itunes give us
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Starting point is 01:50:10 We need to sponsor this stuff in some way. I want to make a huge plea to all of you. James is being very humble, but if you can give any dimes or nickels to us, I would really appreciate it because I have to get this man some fucking health insurance. Before I die. Do not let me do this on my own because I will come in here and go, welcome to Crime and Sports. This week it's Dexter Manley.
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