Crime in Sports - #53 - The Heart For Murder - The Gruesomeness of Jarrod Wyatt

Episode Date: January 31, 2017

This week, we look at one of the craziest, most depraved, and bloodiest stories we've ever heard about. An up and coming MMA fighter begins to unravel, culminating in a brutal murder that is ...both insanely horrific, and just plain insane. See what happens when things go wrong during a mushroom trip, and a trained fighter, with a sick mind, mistakes you for the devil. It isn't pretty. But we do make it hilarious! Stay tuned for the end of the episode for our 1st Annual CIS Scummy Awards, highlighting the worst of the worst of our first year of the show! Train hard, do drugs, and dismember your sparring partner with Jarrod Wyatt!! Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: crimeinsports@gmail.comDonate on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:34 A first listen is waiting for you when you start your free trial at audible.ca. The Queen of the Courtroom is back. How did I know that? i have crystal ball in my head new cases leave her a long so uh this is not a so this is a period classic judy it's streaming you can say anything it's an all-new season judy justice only on freebie Hello and welcome back to Crime and Sports. Oh, you bet your ass a yay this week, Jimmy. I'm telling you. We have the craziest case ever.
Starting point is 00:01:31 So fun. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I am Jimmy Wissman. Man, we have the craziest case ever. I want to thank all you guys for joining us. Thanks for joining us for the past year. Today is the last episode of our first year of doing Crime and Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Next year is our one year anniversary show, which is insane. Next week, I mean, yeah, next week is our one year anniversary show, which you're going to want to tune in for because it's going to be wild. We have a bona fide genuine serial killer coming at you, so you're going to want to check that out. This week is the craziest story we have ever.
Starting point is 00:02:00 I want to thank everyone. This wraps up the year, James. It's this, and we're going to wrap it up, too, in the end in high fashion. Let me say this real quick. We have never missed a week in a year. And we have done. We have fucking jumped through so many hoops, organized so many things in our personal lives to get this done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:18 And I'm very proud of you. And I'm very proud of me. I'm very proud of this. We did this. Thank you, James. Thank everyone out there. Also, thank Sarah Hunt for doing our social media and all of our graphics and. We did this well. Thank you, James. Thank everyone out there. Also, thank Sarah Hunt for doing our social media and all of our graphics and artwork and
Starting point is 00:02:27 everything. Yeah, thank you guys. You guys have made this what it is and we appreciate it. It's unbelievable. Thank you guys for your iTunes reviews this week and everything like that. The iTunes reviews mean the world to us. Please get on there if you haven't. Please sign in. Do your thing. I know it takes 30 seconds. Give us
Starting point is 00:02:43 five stars. Tell us your following directions. So important. Whatever. It's so important. Drives us up the rankings. Gets us on the charts. Gets us sponsors. All that good stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:52 So please, please do that on the business end if you like us and you'd like to keep hearing more crime and sports. You want to hear us be successful. Please do that. But this week, Jimmy, oh, man, this is a wild one. I can't wait. I hope you enjoyed Dexter Manley last week. He was fucking crazy. That was a lot of fun, that one last week.
Starting point is 00:03:10 And, you know, the amount of people that were so excited about it, too. Yeah. After being able to hear it, because they all knew who he was. He was a big name, Dexter Manley. Huge name. Huge fans. And all of his cocaine was highly publicized. Every time he gets suspended, it was a big deal.
Starting point is 00:03:23 And as we know, he would have a lot of quotes that he would be happy to give the media. Holy shit. Coke-fueled quotes. Man. Why is that a tongue twister? Coke-fueled quotes. That's a tough one. That is not.
Starting point is 00:03:33 That's easy. That's not you. Trust me. That is them. Good Lord. Good Lord. So, yeah, here we are, though, with our one week away from our anniversary show. I can't wait for that one, too.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Stick around after this story, by the way. The story will wrap up a little shorter than normal, and then at the end, we are going to have some amazingly fun stuff for you, one of which Jimmy doesn't even know about, and I'm going to surprise him with it, so I'm not going to tell you, but it's going to be really fun. It'll help bring the past year together.
Starting point is 00:04:00 If you've had questions, where did this come? Where did that come from? We're going to answer it for you. Great. It's one of those. It's going to be a lot of fun at the end. Big stuff. Big, big stuff. But before that, never mind all that stuff. We're going to get to that. Let's get to our crime this week, our criminal, because it is the craziest, most bat shit.
Starting point is 00:04:17 It's one of the craziest crimes I've ever heard about, period. Never mind in sports or it's just insane. Is this a psychotic thing to do? Psychotic isn't the word. I don't even know if psychotic, it's not even psychotic. It's just, you just go, what? No. He did what?
Starting point is 00:04:36 No. Then he kept, what? My head was exploding. God damn it. Let's go. Let's do this. We have now, this is an unknown right here too, which I love giving you guys the unknown cases. We love doing the unknown cases.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Nobody wants to hear more about OJ. Let's hear more about this guy who doesn't even have a Wikipedia page. No Wikipedia page. That's really hard to find information. That's as unknown as it gets. Joe Sun had a fucking Wikipedia page. Yeah, well, shit, he was in an Austin Powers movie. But this guy, I don't even have his middle name.
Starting point is 00:05:06 Really? I have his initial. Okay. He's Jared G. Wyatt. Okay. That's what I have. He's an MMA fighter. All right.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Briefly. Extremely briefly. And we'll get to how brief. More brief than five losses? I couldn't even find his birth date. Wow. I have some info. I know he's born in 1984.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Okay. That's it. I know he had a tough childhood. He's younger than me. He's younger than you. And he, wow, you've never done anything like, he's done way more than you with his life. Trust me. Not in a good way, but he's done something.
Starting point is 00:05:35 He's done something. He had a rough childhood. I know that. I don't know why he had a rough childhood. I just heard quotes of he had a rough childhood. So I'm like, must have had a rough childhood. I don't know. Literally early life.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I know shit about his early life because it's impossible to find. What I found here is so difficult. Basically in the media there is the trial of what happened because it's really sensationalized insanity. And that's it. There's nothing else. And everything on here that I
Starting point is 00:06:01 found was through a local tiny newspaper in Del Norte County, California, which there's nobody there. It's the far extreme northwest California corner on the border with Oregon and the Pacific Ocean. It's there. It is way up there. I found newspaper articles. And after three of them, they don't let you read anymore. What?
Starting point is 00:06:21 They bring up a thing on screen that says you must subscribe to read any more articles. Terrible. They want money out of me. Well, of course of course there's nobody there they've got to finance that paper oh it's horrible robbing from people that give a shit about one thing that happened unreal so basically i had to they put the thing up in the middle of the screen and it's all like shaded around it so i had to like i'm not paying you fuck get out of here i read like 15 articles in the half an inch space under that ad, all shaded, one line at a time. You are a hero. So Patreon.com slash Crime and Sports. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:06:51 God damn it. Donate. You're a hero, James. Yeah. Maybe we can subscribe to some of these sites. But not that one. No. I'm not giving them $10 because I'm never going to look at it again.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Fuck you. I'm not doing that. That's like a free trial of porn. Like my dick's hard, god damn it. Just keep going. Now. Ten more at it again. Fuck you. I'm not doing that. That's like a free trial of porn. Like, my dick's hard, goddammit. Just keep going. Now. Ten more seconds. Now.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Not then. Now it is. You understand? Amazing. So, yeah, it's Jared Wyatt is his name, as we said. He's born 1984. All I know is he started boxing at the age of 10. That's a thing that I know.
Starting point is 00:07:20 That's from one of these articles I had to read in the thing. I know nothing about him up until 2007 otherwise. He's in Crescent City, California. And Kalmuth, California is his other place that he stays later on. And that's it. I'm guessing not living the dream. Oh, he's not living the dream. He's definitely not living the dream.
Starting point is 00:07:41 He's having a rough childhood. He really is. Now, he starts out here, and all these fights. If a guy's a fighter, that's an indication that he's had a rough childhood right there. Just the fact that he's like, I don't want to let people punch me in the face. They've had some issues in their life. They just don't normally get well-adjusted people who've had easy, nice childhoods with good homes and opportunities for college. They're like, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:08:02 I want to let a dude choke me. No, no. It's going to be much better. I'm going to get my underwear, have a guy choke me after. That seems better to me. Cauliflower ear does not even scare me away from that. No, he has one too. Really?
Starting point is 00:08:14 Of course he does. In his mugshot, I could see it. Jesus. Spoiler alert. He gets arrested later. That's an indicator that there's problems in that man's life. Yeah. Because cauliflower ear does not scare him away
Starting point is 00:08:25 from that scare him and attracted him to it he loves it what do you see his quotes about fighting later he loves to fight wow he loves it on april 23rd 2007 he wins first place in the jesus's information was hard to find by the way he wins first place in the soyouwannafight.com tough man contest. The what? Soyouwannafight.com. What year? 2007? 2007.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Soyouwannafight.com tough man contest. It's in Trinidad. They're on the island there in Trinidad at the Char A Heights Casino. It really feels like that was influenced by So You Think You Can Dance. It's one of those stupid TV shows. So you want to fight.com. Interesting. So he goes, I'm sure that was just a skill display.
Starting point is 00:09:11 I'm sure it was Floyd Mayweather and I'm sure lots of skilled professionals were there. No, see, that was probably a bunch of dudes in jean shorts pounding the piss out of each other. So you want to fight tough man contest. They're dragging tractor tires through the parking lot. Oh, without a doubt. Getting limber. We're going to do this. Now, April 30th, 2007, there's an article in this tiny paper that I had to read through
Starting point is 00:09:34 the half an inch screen, through the gray, about local fighters in the area that are training at the Del Norte Health and Fitness Center. There's a bunch of them there. There's a few from the area. They're calling themselves Team Intense. Oh, boy. So he's part of Team Intense. Very clever, fellas.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Yeah, and boy, does he get some intense shit going on. Now, the first fight I can find of his, I don't believe this is not his professional debut. First of all, this is another thing. I don't know what classifies as a professional MMA fight. I don't know what sanctioning it needs to be. And I'm not being a wiseass. I just don't know. I don't know what classifies as a professional MMA fight. I don't know what sanctioning it needs to be. And I'm not being a wiseass. I just don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:08 I don't either. Because it seems like there's no difference between guys beating the shit out of each other here or there or whatever. I don't know if it's the referee has to be of a certain caliber, if you have to pay a commission to do it, if that's the deal. Do I have to do it in front of Mills Lane or that fucking big guy that says, let's get it on? I have no clue what this is. But he fights people presumably paid money to do in front of Mills Lane or that fucking big guy that says, let's get it on? I have no clue what this is. But he fights people, presumably paid money to get in. It's semi-professional. Because they do this shit at a state fair, too.
Starting point is 00:10:32 Every state fair in the country does this shit. This year, wow. He fights at a place called the Golden Bear Casino. Now, to give you a little background on this casino and how luxurious it is and the area it's in, basically there's an article here saying that the year before, or I'm sorry, the month before this fight, saying that the company that owns the casino here, they're announcing that they're going to open a gentleman's club next to the casino, separated by six feet from the casino.
Starting point is 00:11:04 open a gentleman's club next to the casino, okay, separated by six feet from the casino. It will be called the Honey Pot, which will be affiliated with three Louisiana strip clubs, including one on Bourbon Street. That is so gross. So Louisiana, Bourbon Street, middle of nowhere, Northern California. The Honey Pot. The Honey Pot, which sounds disgusting. They have put about $10,000 into renovating the building so far because there was a couple of failed businesses there before that.
Starting point is 00:11:25 They're having trouble finishing because Del Norte County is so sparsely populated, it's populated, that they're having trouble getting a plumber and an electrician to come. They can't find one in the town. That's how rural this place is. Literally, the guy, there's an interview with the guy, and he's like, I just can't get a plumber or an electrician. Like, literally, that's what we're waiting on. We're out of money. I can't fly one in from Fresno.
Starting point is 00:11:44 No, we have the money. It's just like I just can't get one to come out here. Nobody will get in their truck with all their shit and drive two hours to the middle of nowhere. Holy Christ. Unreal. So they said they're spending a lot of time on the stage, really getting that stained up nice, they said. Get all that brass polished up. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:11:57 The club will cost a total of $75,000 to renovate. The town council's pissed off about this. They thought it was going to be an arcade for the kids to play in while their parents were losing all their money at the casino. Oh, it's an arcade. All right. It's an arcade. Hold on to those quarters mommy gives you because you're going to need them for something to eat afterwards after she wipes everything out. So let's do that.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Those poor kids. Imagine that's the saddest arcade in town. Did you ever do that when you were a kid? Go to the arcade? Yeah. Well, no. I mean my parents, my stepfather and my mother took us to Vegas once. Really?
Starting point is 00:12:26 Brought the kids with them to Vegas. It's the most trashy thing to do. No, I'm from New York. There's no gambling. Atlantic City is too far. Don't take the fucking kid down there. And they fucking dropped us in the arcade at Circus Circus, and they went and played fucking blackjack.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Great. So you could be terrorized by clowns. Perfect. Thanks, Mom. I just dropped quarter after quarter into Street Fighter for like three hours. That's the way to do it. I probably spent as much money on Street Fighter as they did on the blackjack table. These kids were not as lucky as you because instead of being an arcade, it was a strip club.
Starting point is 00:12:54 They're getting titties. The guy who's building it said, this is great, the quote on it. Quote, this is going to be a quaint lounge. We use artistic expression through dance. You betcha. Yeah, artistic expression with your tits out. That's very artistic of you. Pop your pussy on a handstand.
Starting point is 00:13:08 That's artistic as fuck. And this casino. Interpretive dance of the yin-yang twins. All right. All right. I have to give you some info on where this casino came from because it's the funniest thing. It just shows if you just try to build a even a casino which you think i can't lose money on that you can fuck that up bad and these people did it
Starting point is 00:13:30 repeatedly this is the fourth the fourth time they've raised this casino up yeah and to a casino four times now this is the fourth try and they think the titties are going to be the driving force that's the one that's going to draw people in that's how much sex sells in America, by the way. They'll drive to the desert for it. Now, it's owned by the Raghini Rancheria Indian tribe. They're kind of a separate of the Yuroks, which they're like in with them. It's the Klamath River tribe altogether. It was the Gold Bear Casino that will be at this point.
Starting point is 00:14:03 There's an article about when it's opening. It's the tribe's fourth attempt at a casino in the area. It's a super rural area, like I said. It's right on the Oregon border in the ocean. Like I said, just cram it in the corner of California. Known for huge redwoods and not people, basically, and that's a problem. They tried to open their first casino in 1997, but within a very short time, within two months, a flood destroyed the structure. Wow.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Sounds like it's some old west shit, doesn't it? Like, well, we tried to build it up there, but the river flooded and just took out the whole structure, so we had to move it downstream. And the Indians probably started thinking it's on a burial ground or some shit. This is not 1997 shit. You're losing your casino to a flood. Have you ever heard of a casino being wiped out by a flood? I've heard of people's houses, people in the Midwest, farmers, not goddamn casinos.
Starting point is 00:14:49 New Orleans. Yeah, this is piss poor right here. Now, later in 97, they tried to reopen something, but they didn't have investors yet. So they just opened up a 40-foot trailer and put some fucking slot machines in it. They did that for six months. Talk about a depressing casino gambling environment. You just go into a 40-foot trailer like you're in the special classes at school and they don't have room for you in the building.
Starting point is 00:15:13 The cigarette smoke doesn't dissipate in a 30,000-square-foot casino. No, try a 40-foot trailer. In a 40-foot trailer. She's terrible. Clambake and Marlboro. Jesus. You know who I know wasn't there, though? Electricians or plumbers. It was only other
Starting point is 00:15:28 people. Now, they finally got investors to give them money to build an actual structure. It's like Deadwood here. We had a tent. Now we're going to build a building. Here we go. This was in 1998. It opens in 98. They got investors.
Starting point is 00:15:44 They open up a structure but in 2000 after only two years open it closed because there's no fucking people there stop opening casinos where there's no people jesus christ what do you think people are going to drive three hours to give you money to the middle of no with no other attractions they said before the problems were and there's still problems there is uh there's no gas around there. There's no place to get gas or food or anything else. How about build those things before you build your casino? Build some commerce. Either that or go where there's infrastructure.
Starting point is 00:16:15 Go out in the desert and go, we could build a casino here. We'll run out of gas going home. You could build a casino a lot of fucking places. Yeah, you could build it anywhere. You could build a casino on fucking Mars. It doesn't mean that it's, you know. a lot of fucking places. Yeah, you can build it anywhere. You can build a casino on fucking Mars. It doesn't mean that it's you know. So anyway,
Starting point is 00:16:25 so the Gold Bear, this casino that he'll be fighting at, reopened with the name the Gold Bear Casino, which I think Golden Bear is traditionally the California thing, but whatever, in June 2006. Basically, this casino is just 150 to 200 slot machines in a cafe. That's the whole casino.
Starting point is 00:16:42 I love the casino. Not really worth the drive, I'm saying. They're trying to have boxing or fights of some kind to draw people in just to get them there to take their money, basically, because you have to have something. Right. Now, the fight takes place on June 23, 2007, at the Golden Bear Casino, Klamath, California. Jared Wyatt, our guy here, fights some schmo named James Schumach, who has no history of anything. He was the electrician. He was the guy.
Starting point is 00:17:08 He came in. He got up there, and they were like, he was like, y'all got a room or something? He's like, I forgot my tools. They're like, that's all right. Come in the ring, buddy. It's fine. You got two arms. Come in here.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Let's go. We're going to let this guy beat you around for a while. There's a video of this fight on YouTube. Really? This is the only footage of this guy, and it's on YouTube, and it's the worst video footage I've ever goddamn seen in my life. It is filmed on a phone, and not an iPhone, a 2007 phone. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:17:30 So it's real shaky. Some flip phone, the fucking Motorola Razr. It's the worst film. It's outdoors. It looks like they- It's an open air place. They literally, well, the fight is, they literally just put a ring in the middle of the parking lot or like a field next to it or something.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Remember that open mic I used to run where they used to have one of those nights outside? Yes. Was it like that? Except there's a ring. We used to work at this place. God, Jesus. Early days of comedy. What a shithole that place is.
Starting point is 00:17:58 Every other Friday night, they would have fights in the parking lot. Fight night, yeah. Fight night in the parking lot. And it was just people walking around screaming and hitting shit while you were going over your jokes. And they didn't take kindly to being talked shit to by us either. They came in one night while I was
Starting point is 00:18:13 setting up and they took my mic and were doing a weigh-in stare-down and just took over my stage. And I had like 12 comics sitting in the corner. Not one of us were going to say fuck to these people. They're all shirtless. They just robbed my mic and they're just like 12 comics sitting in the corner. Not one of us were going to say fuck to these people. They're all shirtless. They just robbed my mic, and they're just like, now what do you think about this?
Starting point is 00:18:31 They're just doing their own open mic? It's crazy. Wow. Let them do it. And I just had to let them finish. What are you going to do? Yeah. Those people are crazy because they really want to be Chuck Liddell so bad. They do, and so do these idiots here.
Starting point is 00:18:42 There's so much so that they want to fight in a parking lot, basically. There's a ring up, and it's got a lot of flags on this ring. It's flagged out. Now, they say later on in this article that I found and read through a half inch of gray, they say there was 300 people there. I'm going about 100 people there, it looked like. Most of them look like white supremacists. Oh, I'm sure. Just saying.
Starting point is 00:19:01 I'm sure they look like, yeah. It's a world up there. There's a lot of shirtless white guys with shaved heads. You bet. Running around, really sticking their chests out, looking super supremacy-ish. I don't know. Like they're in the yard. It might have just been hot and they shaved their heads and couldn't have a shirt on, but they look like fucking skinheads.
Starting point is 00:19:17 I'm just saying. Maybe. Can't be sure. Anyway, so yeah. The fight goes. I watched the whole fight. The fight goes about three minutes, basically. It is not a skills display. Hilarious. It's about three minutes, basically. It is not a skills display.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Hilarious. It's not a display of skills. A lot of slap fighting. It looks like, I've said this before, it looks like two sixth graders got in a fight on the playground. And were like, pushed each other, and then one got each other in a headlock, and then they rolled around for a while. I don't know what MMA skills either one of these guys had. It did not look like UFC on TV. It didn't at all.
Starting point is 00:19:44 For most of the fight, Schumacher appears to have the upper hand. He's on top of him. He's doing a bunch of moves. I don't know what the fuck's going on. I can't see, like, if they're together, I can't see who's punching rabbit punches. Schumacher's used to tight spaces, fishing wire in and out of walls and shit. Yeah, he is. He's a top electrician in Del Norte County, Schumacher.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah, he is. He's a top electrician in Del Norte County, Schumach. So eventually, though, Jared turns him over, and they're in the missionary position for about 20 seconds with Jared on top of him. They're in the missionary. That's exactly what they are, in the missionary position. And the camera angle, I can't see what's happening because the camera's at that porn angle. It's like right under Jared's ass. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Like if he was fucking him, you'd see his balls going. One of those. It's that angle. So I can't tell if he's punching him or choking him or doing whatever. But somehow out of this. You'd see his balls going. You'd see his balls going pretty hard. So somehow out of this. I just saw it.
Starting point is 00:20:39 I don't think we've ever had. In my head, I just saw him sling. That's great. The funny part about this fight, too, is there's no announcers or graphics. I didn't know who was who until it was over and his friends looked happy. And I was like, oh, I guess that's Jared. They're just two nondescript white dudes rolling around in a ring in the middle of a parking lot in a shitty no man's land casino in the middle of nowhere in Del Norte, California.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Holy shit. So anyway, Jared ends up getting on his back, on Schumach's back, and chokes him out. All right. I see that. And I'm like, I recognize that. He's choking him, and Schumach ends up tapping, and that's that. So Jared gets up. He's fucking thrilled.
Starting point is 00:21:17 He does a one-handed cartwheel. Oh, no. He does a thing and pops up. He had his whole routine. You know what I mean? I'm going to be this guy. I can't wait until I can do my fucking dance. There's a hundred guys there.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Several skinhead looking guys running the ring to celebrate with him. They're like, the pose they're making, I'm like, that's a skinhead pose. They're very skinheady guys. They're yelling and screaming. Flat hand out salute, that one? Not that, but the way they have their chest out, everything but the salute. It's like, we can't do the salute, but we'll do it. That's too obvious.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Too obvious here. Someone's got it on a flip phone over here. I don't know if I want to do it. It's too on the nose. I'm going to run for office next year. And Del Norte, who knows? He might be running for office. They pan to Schumach, the defeated guy, and he's just sitting there by himself.
Starting point is 00:22:00 And then this girl comes. I think it's his girlfriend just comes in, and she's just sitting there with him in the ring. It was a very sad sight. where does it hurt where does it hurt and then they pan back over to him and there's just it's a fucking skinhead celebration they're jumping up and down then a fight breaks out between his people in the ring jared's posse in the ring and a bunch of people outside the ring awesome they all start fighting and the ropes are going back and forth that's a better fight than the one that just happened. It was awesome. I'm like, here
Starting point is 00:22:25 we go. I was way more interested in that. Now we got action. Yeah, I was way more interested in seeing his balls slap against the fucking dude. So the video ends. The last thing you hear is a security guard telling the other security guards, we need to clear the ring. We need to stop this. Security, come on guys, we need to clear the ring. And then it shuts off. Get that
Starting point is 00:22:41 out of here. I really want to know, but there was an article about the fight at the fight later on in that newspaper. I didn't look at that because my eyes hurt too bad. I only looked at relevant shit at that point. I was like, I can't. I can't. I just can't look at that fight. It's enough.
Starting point is 00:22:53 I've done enough research here for fuck's sake. I've seen what happened. I don't need some reporter to tell me. I've seen it. I've seen it. Saw his balls going. I saw his balls. That's the funniest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:23:04 You know that's what happened. Yeah. His balls were slapping. Swinging. Swinging. So, Wyatt, there is very, like I said, very sparse information, but I did find some cool shit that actually was brought up in court. Awesome. Yes, here we go.
Starting point is 00:23:17 So, now, some earlier criminal activities. Oh, terrific. To show what kind of loon he is, basically. or criminal activities. Oh, terrific. To show what kind of loon he is, basically. Wyatt, in early of 2009, he calls two friends of his to meet him at Pacific Shores. I assume that's the beach of some kind up there.
Starting point is 00:23:35 When the friends get there, he wanted to show them something. Oh, God. He unleashes his two large dogs and has them attack a pig that he recently bought. What? That's what he invited his friends. Come watch my dogs attack a pig. Hey, guys, come here. I got something to show you. That's like the ultimate redneck shit.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Come over, y'all. I got something to show you. And that's what it is. Watch that. Watch animals rip each other. Hey, y'all, watch this. What the fuck? What the fuck?
Starting point is 00:23:56 So the friends are horrified by this. Even though they hang out with him, they're probably loons, too. I don't know if it's the skinhead guys, even, are like, hey, dude, come on. They eventually, like, beg him to stop the mauling. They're like, dude, stop, please. This is horrible. So he does. He calls his dogs off and goes over and stabs the shit out of the pig.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Wow. Just to get it out of the way. So, I mean, he had to put it out of its misery, I guess, but he did it in a pretty brutal way where they were like, oh, my. This guy is out there, boy. He's a little out there. Now, wow. I don't know if that blows to the head or what that makes you do that. Unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:24:28 He's got a bit of a bloodlust, let's say, at this point. It looks like to me. They say that terrible people start with hurting animals. Yeah, always. You know what I mean? And that's a pretty damn good start. That's terrible. There's nothing worse than that.
Starting point is 00:24:41 And he did that with an audience. He made sure there was an audience. He didn that. He made sure there was an audience. He didn't just be like. He called an audience. Yeah. He didn't say, I want to do this now. He promoted that show. He didn't say, I don't know why.
Starting point is 00:24:51 He put that shit on Facebook. Yeah. He's just like, hey, guys, everyone come down to my show. That's the thing. No cover. He didn't just sit there. There happened to be people there. And he's like, I really got to have the dogs maul the pig now.
Starting point is 00:25:04 I'm hankering to see that. He said, Hey, Tom, Bob. Yeah, I know. Come on. And he didn't tell him what I got something for you. And they're like, Hey, maybe he's having a barbecue. Hey, maybe he's got some, some chicken breasts on the grill. Maybe he still does. He's got pork already for you, but you're going to have to clean it up first. Fucking
Starting point is 00:25:19 disaster. Can you field dress a pig? Unbelievable. You can field stab a pig. What a monster. He's actually pretty good with field dressing things we'll get to later. Unfortunately for the rest of the world. This is a fucking horrific story. If you are not okay with graphic shit, I mean, we'll try to be whatever, but this shit is gross. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:25:38 We're going to be graphic. This is a gross-ass story. It's rough, so buckle up now. I'll tell you that. Gross-ass story. It's rough, so buckle up now. I'll tell you that. Fall of 2009, Wyatt does mushrooms, you know, hallucinogen mushrooms, psilocybin mushrooms.
Starting point is 00:25:51 I won't judge him for that. Yeah, three times with a woman he was dating at the time. Now, the woman said he acted progressively weirder every time they did mushrooms. That's generally what happens. During one of the trips, he told his dogs to bite her, which scared the shit out of her. She said they were nipping at her, and he thought it was funny, my god basically so he's kind of a sadistic bastard anyway with this shit and so yeah she he thought it was funny she was freaked out by it no shit god obviously you know what i mean so yeah it's that's that's not a good impression to make why would you keep going and hanging out with the guy that's the thing like which trip was that
Starting point is 00:26:22 they didn't say i hope number three three. It better have been three. Yeah, it should have been three, and that should have been the last one. Well, if it was one, then you're really an idiot. If it was two, you go, well, we're 50-50 so far. Maybe the third one. Maybe it's an odds and evens thing. Next time it'll be fun. But the third time. An odds and evens thing.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Every odd time it's bad or whatever. So October 24, 2009, he actually has his first fight. It's in a cage. There's a still of it that I found on that site. It's in Oregon somewhere. He knocks his opponent out with an elbow in this fight. That is an actual professional sanctioned fight. That counts as his first pro fight.
Starting point is 00:26:59 So now he is 1-0, and if you look up a fight record, scroll through 20 pages of other bullshit, and you'll find 1-0, and if you look up a fight record, scroll through 20 pages of other bullshit, and you'll find 1-0 this guy. But it didn't say who he fought. I couldn't find that part. Sorry. We're doing our best here, but he knocks a guy out in Oregon. There's an article in the local paper,
Starting point is 00:27:18 this goddamn Del Norte bullshit, sons of bitches up there wanting money out of me. It's a fluff piece about him and about his fighting and he's a local fight there's nobody fucking there if anyone's doing anything dude if there was a plumber moving into town they'd have a fluff piece on it's like they finally finished the strip club now holy shit so a fighter they're gonna do a little story i wonder if they had heard about the pig i don't think they have tells me no i don't think that made
Starting point is 00:27:43 the paper quite yet so uh he's got a manager now at this. He's got a silver-haired, middle-aged white man because you've got to have one. It's imperative. He has quite the silver statement later on. But right now he's being managed by the local medical marijuana grower in the area. What? A guy named Dante Vitullo. Of course it's Dante.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Who apparently was a fighter and now he doesn't want to fight. He's bankrolling, basically. He's a trainer in a fight and he just bankrolls. He's got tons of money. Bringing the weed money in. Vitulo wants to send him to Iowa to train. Remember our MMA fighters going to Iowa for the training camp? That's where he wants to send him.
Starting point is 00:28:18 He says that Wyatt is – it's very expensive to send him there. Apparently that's a super expensive thing to do. And he says Wyatt is well worth the cost and it's going to come back to him tenfold. How about that? He's got confidence in this Wyatt kid. He's talking about how he's supposed to fight for the Southern Oregon Fight League Championship on June
Starting point is 00:28:35 30th. That sounds special. Yeah, that's coming up, or January 30th of the next year. That's coming up in 2007. So, you know, yeah, it's I guess that's good. I don't know. I looked up this Southern Oregon Fight League champion. There's not much going on with that shit, but I tried to find records to see
Starting point is 00:28:52 if he won that fight or not, but I believe he won because later on he's called a champion by somebody. So I believe he won. That is a really weak-ass championship to be playing. Champion nonetheless. So we have an in their own words. This is So we have an in their own words. Great.
Starting point is 00:29:05 The one and only in their own words. I love it. So fucking, you know, keep it in your pocket and really hang on to it. Make it last. Don't spend it all in one place. So this is in their own words on fighting and just, you know, being whatever. Nudnickery. Nudnickery in general.
Starting point is 00:29:20 This gives you a sense of his personality. Broad overview of what makes the man tick here we go in their own words quote i've been fighting one way or another since i can remember i think that all fighting is worthwhile this is my yoga you can't beat up idiots at the grocery store or the guy that cuts you off frustration builds up and fighting is something that's a great release since starting to fight professionally i never get in actual fights anymore. I can't wait to fight on TV as soon as I can. Oh my god. Wow. This is my yoga?
Starting point is 00:29:49 This is my yoga, and since I started fighting professionally, I never get in fights anymore. That's like, otherwise I was punching everybody. I just couldn't go down the street without punching somebody. It was crazy. So now, he's all set, right? It's 2009. He's about to have that fight in early 2010. Ch choking a guy out
Starting point is 00:30:06 is my downward dog that's his downward dog so now he's not gonna have any off out of the ring problem once he fights in there you're not fighting anybody right yeah he's good now right that's his shit that's his yoga dude so november 2001 wyatt allegedly allegedly punches his girlfriend in the face as she tries to leave for morning coffee. She tries to leave the house to go get morning coffee. And he's like, not today, bitch. I think you're going to go with a black guy today, this fucking idiot.
Starting point is 00:30:33 So apparently the yoga didn't work that day, and he wasn't quite as calm as he thought. You like your coffee like your eyes? Yeah, he's like, you can't beat up the guy in the grocery store or the guy who cuts you off in traffic. Or the guy that makes your coffee. But you can punch your girlfriend if she wants to go get coffee. We're going to get it. That's okay, apparently, with this fucking man.
Starting point is 00:30:49 Unreal now. So now March 17th, 2010. Note the date. March 17th, 2010. Wyatt allegedly punches a 16-year-old boy in the face. Wow. Because he was at the ocean and he didn't like the logo on his surfboard. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:31:04 And made fun of it and walked over and punched him in the face. What the fuck? Wyatt didn't like the logo on his surfboard oh my god and made fun of it and walked over and punched him in the face what the why it didn't like his logo not the kid made fun of his logo why i got mad and punched him he said i don't like your fucking logo and punched the kid what was the logo 16 year old kid it was some brand i looked it up at some i don't know surfing so doesn't matter but it's some it was just a brand it wasn't even like it wasn't like the black panthers or something no that's what i mean he didn't even like... It wasn't like the Black Panthers or something? No, that's what I mean. He didn't have like a, I don't like fucking skinheads.
Starting point is 00:31:28 UFC fighters. He had nothing like that at all. He just, it was crazy. I don't like guys with the last name of Wyatt. I don't like Mohawks because he's got a Mohawk this moron too. Unbelievable. He's got a total Mohawk.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Of course he does. He's an idiot. So yeah, he punches a guy over a surfboard. Apparently his yoga... A 16-year-old kid. 16 years old. That's assaulting a minor. No problem. That's crazy. A 16-year-old kid. 16 years old. That's assaulting a minor. No problem.
Starting point is 00:31:46 That's crazy. No worries. It's all good. But if he punches his girlfriend, of course he'll punch a kid. He doesn't care. This kid's a stranger. His girlfriend at least probably has some value to him, even in his warped mind. In 2010, he is 27?
Starting point is 00:31:59 Yeah. 27, yeah. 27 years old. 26. What a shitbag. Yeah, he's a shitbag. Punching a 16-year-old kid. Punching a 16-year-old.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Punching girlfriends and saying how fighting's his yoga. Wow. My yoga. I don't have anything in my life that I consider my yoga, because I don't know what the benefits of yoga would be for me to compare it. I don't know shit about yoga. Plus, I'm just not... I can't imagine a person being like, this is my yoga. It's the douchiest statement.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Chicks in yoga pants, that's my yoga. I dig those. I would picture this to be like a really sensitive, dorky guy with a ponytail who would say, this is my yoga, when they read a book or something. When they're drinking their nonfat skinny latte. Yeah, this guy, no. My yoga is punching people in the face. And he says he likes striking a lot because he started boxing.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Because it feels good. I like to punch shit, too. Who doesn't? Right. But in that one fight I saw, there was no punches thrown whatsoever. It was literally just rolling around. So much for liking to punch shit. Now, we'll bring into the picture here a guy named, a person named Taylor Powell.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Okay. Taylor Powell is a kid. He's 21 years old at the time. From all accounts, a very, very nice kid. He's a nice guy. He becomes sparring partners with Wyatt here, with Jared. He's a sparring partner. Nice kid. Everybody likes him. He moved to Crescent City right after he turned
Starting point is 00:33:22 18 just to try to make some kind of life for himself. I believe he's from Tennessee originally. I'm assuming he had a rough childhood too. His family was in Tennessee. Yeah, he went to a charter school in high school. And when he came out here, he was going to try to get his GED. That was the first thing he was going to try to do. Yeah, rough childhood.
Starting point is 00:33:36 He's trying to – Generally, overseas people, charter schools are for people that don't go well in public schools and for high school anyway. A lot of times, yeah. Back then, that's how it started. Yeah, back then, yeah. So you went to a charter school to get your high school equivalency, and then if you can't make it in that, you go get your GED, which is you get laughed at, basically.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Yeah, you get your GED. A GED is bullshit. And then you go get a job cleaning the toilets at a strip club at a casino. They call it a high school equivalency, but people on the street will call it a GED is a good enough degree. That's the slang term for it. Exactly. This poor non-GED
Starting point is 00:34:16 recipient, because I never found out if he got it or not. He went there to get it, but probably not. He was distracted. He's 21. He worked at the Good Harvest Cafe in Crescent City, apparently. That was his job, and he was just kind of hanging out. He was a young kid. He was distracted. He's 21. He worked at the Good Harvest Cafe in Crescent City. Apparently that was his job and he was just kind of hanging out. He was a young kid. He found a guy to hang out with that's an up and coming fighter.
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Starting point is 00:36:17 You can listen ad-free on the Amazon Music or Wondery app. March 21, 2010. This is in Requia, California. I don't know how you say that. It's R-E-Q-U-A. Requia. Requia. Roca.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Roca, California. Whatever. He is there. It's Taylor Powell and it's Jared Wyatt. Yeah. And Jared Wyatt, they had worked out, I guess, earlier in the day. They'd been sparring and stuff. He has an upcoming fight, I believe, in April.
Starting point is 00:36:47 That's supposedly a big fight of his coming up that he needs to train for. No, no. Jared Wyatt. He's got his silver-haired middle-aged white man there, the Dante guy. He's got them all set up for a fight. He's handling all his business. Gotcha. So Taylor Powell, Jared Wyatt, and two other friends, one of which is a guy named Justin Davis.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I don't know the fourth friend's name, but I found this fucking Justin Davis. That was hard. Jesus. Justin says that the day before, they all drank mushroom tea. The night before. They all made tea with some mushrooms. Terrible. We're back into hallucinogenic mushrooms here. Now, he said that Wyatt had been acting super strangely the whole night, which he just took
Starting point is 00:37:20 a bunch of fucking mushrooms. That's what you do. Yeah, you're going to act strangely. Now, I don't know what people do with that. I've done mushrooms one time when I was young, and I just giggled. It was like a lot of fun, and I giggled, and that was about it. And then it was over with. And then I got tired and went to sleep, period.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I was hungry afterwards, but that's all it was. I drank tea and felt like I was melting into shit. This guy has a bit of a different reaction, if you can trust what he says. Is he allergic? I just had that possible epiphany maybe he's allergic to mushrooms because he just gets weirder and weirder when he takes it brings out his true dickheadness also too we don't know how brain injuries and and mushrooms mixed together that's a hell of a point and i'm sure it's probably different for everybody there's
Starting point is 00:37:59 probably no standard way that if you have a brain injury and you eat mushrooms you're gonna act like this and we don't know if he hasn't even has a brain injury and you eat mushrooms, you're going to act like this. And we don't know if he even has a brain injury, but I'm sure he does. I feel like he's been hit in the head quite a bit growing up and by his actions, especially. So generally normal people don't fucking sick dogs on a pig. And then when your friends, girlfriend, when you're saying friends tell you, dude, stop that. You walk over and stab, stab, stab. This is normal, right?
Starting point is 00:38:23 It wasn't cool for the dog, but I'll just stab it. Make a pig blood fountain for all of you. Unreal. So I wish he would have stuck with that. So apparently he was acting odd because Davis, Justin Davis, had left the night before. He left his dog at the house. He went to go do something. He left his dog.
Starting point is 00:38:39 He comes back the next morning to get his dog, and the scene he finds in front of him. Oh, boy. Okay. You left boy. Okay. You left the night before. Your friends were partying. You guys ate some mushroom, or you drank some mushroom tea. Everybody's fine. Everybody's having a good time.
Starting point is 00:38:52 Wyatt's acting a little weird. Jared's acting a little strange, but whatever. I'm going to leave the dog here. I'll come back in the morning. I'll get it. You probably figure you come back the next morning, you're going to find them sleeping at all or something, right? Right.
Starting point is 00:39:02 And your dog running around the yard needing to eat. Yeah, maybe a pile of shit in the corner or something. You figure these guys aren't responsible enough to take them out. So when Davis returned, Jared Wyatt was in the middle of the living room. He was naked, completely naked, and covered head to toe in blood. Oh, my God. With blood everywhere. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:39:21 When I say everywhere, from the descriptions of this basically take a bag of blood and put a fucking m80 in it and blow it up in your living room and that's what the shit looked like basically oh my god everything was covered in blood um there's furniture knocked over i mean it's a it's a there was a scene it's a scene there was a struggle yeah look down at the couch he sees taylor powell's bloody and naked and presumably dead body lying on the couch right next to him in the middle of the living room. Oh, my God. Davis is like standing in the doorway with his jaw on the floor. Apparently he didn't even say anything.
Starting point is 00:39:55 He just opened the door and was like, what the fuck is going on? Are they both dead? Wyatt's standing. Jared Wyatt's standing in the middle of the living room. Oh, my God. He's standing over a dead body with blood everywhere. He's standing there. Both of them are naked.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Taylor Powell's naked and looks like he's dead. Why are they naked? And he's naked and covered in blood. He looks over. Jared Wyatt looks over to Justin Davis and tells him, I'm going to cut his heart out now. I'm going to cut his heart out now. Now. Now.
Starting point is 00:40:24 Now. It's like if you want to join in. You know what I mean? Like, hey, there's an extra chair here if you want to pull it on up. What? So Davis smartly backs out, closes the door like, I didn't see any of that. Runs to the near, and it's 2010. I don't know how the hell none of these
Starting point is 00:40:39 people had cell phones. Right. That's fucking some serious white trash happening here. No kidding. So he goes to the nearest place he can find a pay phone and calls the police. He found a pay phone in 2010. He found a pay phone. Around there, though, who knows? They might be everywhere. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:40:53 So he finds a pay phone and calls the police. Thank God he's thinking properly. Yeah. Thank God he didn't be like, oh, let me try to help you. Because when I'm first reading this, I'm like, is this guy going to try to help cover it up? Right. And I'm like, Jesus. No, this guy was like, I'm getting the the fuck out no word on if he even got his dog
Starting point is 00:41:08 like he might have said you know fuck you sparky i'm out i'm going this is nuts i don't know where he could have already eaten the dog for all we know that's a good point i've heard stories he knifes pigs so who even knows who knows right you never know so he uh so police arrive on the scene now Wyatt acts like dude Justin Davis was never there Jared Wyatt is just going right back to his business of what he was doing he's fine he's still bloody right oh he's still bloody police arrive to find Wyatt still completely naked still covered in blood he's now on the couch with Powell's body. Okay? Both covered in blood. Most of Powell's face has been removed. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Skinned. He has no face. He field dressed his head. He has no face. There is an 18 inch cut down his chest. Oh my god. 18 inch cut down his chest. There is an eyeball on the coffee table. Oh my god. An eyeball. What the fuck? Just a god an eyeball what the fuck just a fucking
Starting point is 00:42:06 random eyeball cops show up to find this is what they find oh my god they probably thought the guy was full of shit yeah they made the call sure there's blood everywhere somebody's got a bloody nose i'm gonna go check this out with the mushrooms in this county you know what i mean and he goes now holy shit where's his face where's his face know, because they're like, oh, what the fuck? He looks overseas, the police, and he goes, this is Wyatt's quote on this. Wyatt says, quote, I killed him. He had the devil in him. He doesn't anymore.
Starting point is 00:42:36 Imagine the look on the cop's face for that. So did he open his chest to pull the devil out? Let's just be the cop for one second. You walk in. You hear this story like a – yeah, I'm sure there's a bloody guy with a – whatever. What the fuck, man? Now what's going on? These jerk-off kids, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:42:52 You show up and you go, whoa. And then there's an eyeball on the table. There's blood everywhere. There's a gash down there. There's a missing face. There's no face. There's no face on this guy. And when the guy who called the cops left, he had a face. He had a face. And there was no gash in there's a missing face there's no face on this guy and when the guy who called the cops
Starting point is 00:43:05 left he had a face and there was no gash in his truck and one of the eyeballs were in his head right now there's an eyeball on the table and he like just what do you pluck it out and he's like i'll put that there so i don't lose it i'll put that you know what i lose the remote all the time so i'm gonna put it next to the remote that way i don't lose either one of them i know he had to have repositioned it a couple times when it rolled. You know. He's like, shit, no, no, lean it back. I really want them to see the color when they come in the door. I don't know if he set up or what. Keep an eye
Starting point is 00:43:32 on that area. Check it. Watch the door for me, will you? Watch the remote. I don't want it to disappear. Sorry. Taylor Powell's family. Jesus Christ. Poor kid. It's horrible. We don't mean to make fun of him. We're not making fun of him, but holy fuck.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Making fun of the thought process of a fucking psycho. And think about, like I said, think about the police officer who comes in there, sees that, has to be like, holy shit. His life has got to be ruined. It's a small town cop. I mean, it's not like he's used to seeing tragic, horrible murder scenes. And then the guy turns to you and says, I killed him. He had the devil in him. Seven years later, that cop is still fucked up.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Oh, he has to just be like, what the fuck just happened? What did I just see? What's going on here? So, yeah, then he tells the police that he also removed some of Powell's organs. He's like, I took some stuff out, basically. I took some shit for myself here. Wow. He's removing organs, this guy I took some shit for myself here. Wow. He's removing organs, this guy.
Starting point is 00:44:28 This is what I'm saying. This is next level bat shit here. The house is a disastrous mess. It's a complete mess. The police find indentations in the wall where Taylor's head was clearly rammed into the wall. We find like a head mark in the wall where it's repeatedly bashed and there's blood all over the fucking place. I can't tell you how much blood there was. They just kept remarking on how much blood there was.
Starting point is 00:44:52 They also find a marijuana growing operation there too. Somebody's got a grow thing going on. So they're like, that's the least of our problems. There's another charge, but we'll deal with that later. Don't care. Let's keep going. The police make one more discovery that is insanely, that's the, I think this is the cherry on top.
Starting point is 00:45:10 This is the top layer of the cake here. Where are his balls going? Police find Powell's charred heart in the wood stove. What? He removed his heart from his chest. Oh my God. And placed it in from his chest. Oh, my God. And placed it in the wood stove. And it was burned.
Starting point is 00:45:27 It was burned. Apparently, he was planning on eating it. What? That was the plan. He was cooking it? He was cooking it. He just threw it in the stove. Must have forgot about it.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Damn it. You know when you have something in the oven and you forget it and you're like, oh, shit, I have those biscuits in there. Shit. He did that with a human heart. Unbelievable. Because I imagine they took it out and he was like, that's where I put that in there. Shit. He did that with a human heart. Unbelievable. Because I imagine they took it out and he was like, that's where I put that.
Starting point is 00:45:48 Fuck. Shit. It's probably done. The mushrooms. I forget where I do. I forget what shit goes on. I don't know what the hell he does. Check it. Is it too hard?
Starting point is 00:45:56 Is it ready? Is it overcooked? Do it on the inside of your thumb. You press. And if it's this much, it's medium. If it's that much, it's medium rare. You son of a bitch. And if it's this much, it's medium.
Starting point is 00:46:02 If it's that much, it's medium rare. You son of a bitch. So Dante Vitulo, our silver-haired middle-aged white man here, says about this crime, not holy shit. I can't believe he has a comment. He's got a comment on this in the paper and everything. He says, quote, he was an undefeated champion. You can't get any more silver-haired than this. He leads with an accomplishment.
Starting point is 00:46:26 No, there's more. The whole thing's an accomplishment. Oh, my God. He says, he was an undefeated champion, and we were on our way. We pretty much had two more fights, and we were on our way up to the UFC. Holy shit. He's like, if only he didn't cut this guy's heart out. By my count, he only had one more fight.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Oh, God. He could have had Joe Rogan talkinggan talking about it totally won this one he i would say this this you can chalk up in the victory column but not for the rest of the world that had to fucking deal with this or taylor's family took an owl that's for sure good grief unbelievable yeah these people too they're right reading the stuff. Their family is so sweet. The Powell family are the sweetest, nicest people. That's why it's like, sorry, we're not going to make fun of Taylor because we're not making fun of Taylor. We're trying our hardest. We're trying our hardest to get through the guy.
Starting point is 00:47:15 This is brutal and grisly. Unbelievable. And if we don't make jokes, it's just going to be gross. How do you tell this story without him? How do you tell this story? This is the way I process shit like this. This is the way you process this. I dare Dateline to get a hold of this and try to tell it with decency.
Starting point is 00:47:28 There's no way. There's no way. This is fucking awful. They might not make jokes about the doneness of the heart and the thing, but whatever. You know what I mean? That's what we do. So I'm sorry if you are offended by this at all. Apologies.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Apologies and fuck off. For no apologies. Because what we do is I'm sorry. This is the show. If you don't like it, unsubscribe. There you go. Anyway, moving on. So March 25th now, 2010.
Starting point is 00:47:50 By the way, they arrest him with no issue. Really? He puts his hands behind his back. He's like, yeah, no problem. Solve the devil. Let's get out of here. That's it. Got to get the devil out of him.
Starting point is 00:47:59 I mean, Jesus, that's it. So they take him out of there. He's going crazy for the next four days in jail. Really? Yeah. Del Norte sheriff asks for a transfer for Wyatt to a different location. Really? They're like, we can't fucking deal with this guy.
Starting point is 00:48:11 It's like a small town sheriff's office with the jail. And he says that Wyatt has tried several suicide attempts. This is in four days. He's tried several suicide attempts and claimed to see and hear people that aren't there. Oh, my God. He claims to see the devil and says that the voices in his head are instructing him to, quote, do violent things. So this sheriff said, for the safety of my staff and other inmates, can we please take
Starting point is 00:48:33 this guy somewhere that has facilities that can fucking take care of him? Because we can't. Put him in a padded cell somewhere elsewhere. Unbelievable. So, I mean, he grows up shittily, apparently. Has this shit, shit you know starts boxing when he's 10 has silver age middle silver haired middle-aged white men he comes up he makes friends with this guy he's now punched a 16 year old his girlfriend that pig is fucking destroyed
Starting point is 00:48:58 and the people that watched it are fucking oh my god justin davis the police officer i can't imagine the family of taylor powell hearing what happened to this poor guy who had his goddamn heart charred in a fucking wood stove i feel bad for all these people jimmy i feel so bad for all these people but not nearly there are people with this name not nearly as bad as i feel for Jared Wyatt, engineering and maintenance manager at an auto dealership in Bowling Green, Kentucky. Jared Wyatt, national account sales manager at Labatt Food Services. Oh, he's doing great. Yeah, Grand Junction, Colorado.
Starting point is 00:49:34 So good for him. He's got legal weed. Jared Wyatt, hospital and health care professional. What the fuck? He's been a direct care worker for the past eight years in bastrop louisiana and finally jared wyatt mechanical engineer at meridian energy in new zealand oh my god all the way in new zealand he went to the university of canterbury which sounds very fancy he went to university canterbury it sounds very very fancy lots of hats there lots of hats it's very very fancy and that's where he went and he did not kill anybody.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Thank goodness. For those people. But I feel bad for those people, man. For real. Unbelievable. What a terrible story this is. And to share a name with this monster. It's the worst, man.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Thank God there's only one Jimmy Wissman. I'm telling you, man. In the entire world, there's only one. My father is a James Petrigalli, but I'm not a junior guy. No. Different middle names. And luckily, I don't think he's going to kill anybody anytime soon. If he does, I'm in deep shit.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Or maybe I'll kill someone and put him in the fucking shit for it. Take that, Dad. How's that? So June 12, 2010, Wyatt finally, because there's been all this shit with sanity and everything else, he's finally entering a plea. He enters a dual plea to the murder charge. He pleads not guilty and not guilty by reason of insanity. So this basically says, I didn't do it, but...
Starting point is 00:50:51 If I did. If I did do it, I was not mentally competent at the time to do it if you decide that I did do it, but I didn't do it. You did do something fucking crazy. Yeah. So that may be legit, but you fucking did it because the cops watched you. And he made statements afterwards. He was like, yeah, yeah, no, I did that.
Starting point is 00:51:09 I totally did. Cut his heart out. Did the whole thing. I mean, he told the cops, we'll get into in the trial exactly what he did because it is disgusting and sick. There's way more details to come. Oh, boy. Don't worry. Come on.
Starting point is 00:51:18 You think I just throw that out there? Not have details? This is fucking shocking. I read this shit through a half inch of gray. Not have details? This is fucking shocking. I read this shit through a half inch of gray. So September 1st, 2011, a preliminary hearing is held to see if there's enough evidence for the DA, John Alexander,
Starting point is 00:51:41 to add a special circumstance on the murder charge with torture to charge against him. So you can special circumstance people, which is for sentencing. Make it aggravated? Make it like an aggravated thing. All right. Now, Jared's attorney, James Fallman, who this fucking silver-haired, middle-aged white guy, I hope he's making overtime. This is a time-and-a-half silver-haired, middle-aged white man. He's an asshole.
Starting point is 00:51:57 And the things that—I can't imagine being an attorney, because you figure you're an attorney, you get certain cases where you're like, I don't know what the hell I'm going to do with this. Yeah. How do you defend this? This one is beyond me. You better have somebody that has done lawyer shit for years and years and years. Lawyer shit.
Starting point is 00:52:13 This is a mess. This is crazy. And he tries his ass off, too. This is a mess. He really tries. He broke a sweat. He put in his time. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:21 This is overtime. He insists, this is James Fallman, he insists that his client was on mushrooms the whole time. He's like, that was a big deal, so it shouldn't be special. He says, quote, my client thought he was talking to the devil. Duh. That doesn't change anything to me. And I don't see how that helps in court. Oh, the devil, you say?
Starting point is 00:52:41 Oh, I'm sorry. My bad. I didn't realize it was the devil. Oh, the devil, you say? Why do you say so? It's the devil. Hey, everybody. No, guys, that was the devil. He had the devil, you say? Oh, I'm sorry. My bad. I didn't realize it was the devil. Oh, the devil, you say? Why do you say so? It's the devil. Hey, everybody. No, guys, he had the devil.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Just throw all the paperwork out. It was the devil. He had to kill him. What else can you do with the devil? You know what I mean? So continuing in this hearing, the DA, John Alexander, says, quote, we do plan to get justice for Mr. Powell, which I hope they do, in order to get the special circumstances. This is the law of what they must prove.
Starting point is 00:53:10 So I'll quote the law here that that Wyatt, quote, intended to kill Powell. Yeah, I mean, you can't survive with your heart on the outside of your body. Not for long. body not for long he said he intended to inflict extreme physical pain and suffering on Powell while he was still alive that he did indeed inflict in extreme physical pain and suffering and that it was done for the calculated purpose of revenge extortion persuasion or any other sadistic reason wow that's special circumstances basically if you tried to make a fucking statement if you're like a mob boss you tie someone to a chair and you Michael Madsen them and you cut their ear off, they go, well, that's you're trying to muscle people. Fucking can't do that, apparently.
Starting point is 00:53:53 I don't know what difference does it make. He ripped the guy's face off. So anyway. And he pulled his eyeball out. And he pulled his eyeball out, which is unreal. So September 1st, same hearing here. Dr. Neil Kushner the he's of the humble county coroner's office i know where humble county is yeah honestly think of that they had to call in
Starting point is 00:54:11 a coroner from another county that's how small we're dealing with here the county has like 21,000 people unbelievable whole fucking county and it's a good size county one of them's a psychopath yeah probably more but definitely one. This guy testifies. He said that he examined Powell's body the day after the death. He points out in the photos the large amount of hemorrhaging with many of Powell's wounds. Now, we'll get into what that means. He said, quote, upon examination of the chest cavity, there was a large amount of blood and the heart had been removed. There was a vital reaction in the liver associated with the incision in the chest. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:54:49 You see where I'm going with this, right? At that point, Powell's mother, Kathy, runs out of the courtroom because she's hurt enough. She's about, she's getting what I'm getting right now. Yeah, yes, exactly. Oh, my God. Kushner said that Powell had extensive abrasions and contusions to the face, blunt force trauma to the head, contusions and hemorrhaging in the brain, and a large cut on his scalp. He also said there was extensive hemorrhaging in the tongue tissue and soft eye tissue. Oh, by the way, he cut his tongue out too. What?
Starting point is 00:55:13 I didn't tell you that part because it's coming up here. All of this says to him that Powell was still alive when all of these wounds happened. My God. All of them. Holy shit. Even alive when his chest was cut open and his heart was removed. Oh, dear Jesus. They think he removed his beating heart.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Oh, my God. Indiana fucking Jones and the Temple of Doom style and held it above his head like a fucking maniac. Oh, my God. Yeah. Let's unpack that. Let's not go on the DA. Let's just for one second. Because all of those medical terms that were just said pointed to the fact that his body was reacting to all of the damage being caused. Which means there was blood coursing through his body and he was breathing and alive.
Starting point is 00:56:04 Alive. He was forcing through his body, and he was breathing and alive. While his face was field dressed, his eyeball was plucked out, his tongue was cut out, and then his chest was opened, and his still beating heart was removed. This was after also- Holy fuck. This is after some serious blunt force trauma to the head. He put his head through the fucking wall. Taylor is a tough motherfucker. He's a tough motherfucker, and this guy is as sick as a
Starting point is 00:56:25 person could be. Wow. This is by far the sickest son of a bitch we've run into so far. Jesus. I mean yeah you can shoot your wife at a
Starting point is 00:56:31 garden party. You could be you know even Eddie Johnson who did the most horrific fucking thing I can think of with a child and everything else. This is worse.
Starting point is 00:56:40 This is horrific. This is this is some horror movie monster shit. Like literally this is you would expect better behavior out of Dracula than this. This is horrific. This is some horror movie monster shit. Like literally, you would expect better behavior out of Dracula. This is the stuff that my children come into my bedroom and tell me they're scared of. Well, here he is. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:56:54 Now you can reassure them that he is real. The boogeyman exists. Let's find out if he's off the streets at least. Oh my God. So yeah, all of this suggests that he was alive. Like I said, unbelievable. That right there, sir, is the heart of the story. Oh, my God. So, yeah, all of this suggests that he was alive. Like I said, unbelievable. That right there, sir, is the heart of the story. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:09 You punning son of a bitch. That is crazy. That is crazy. Psychotic what-the-fuck behavior. What the fuck? That's the only way to describe it. This is a big pile of what the fuck. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:57:21 The judge should have said that when bringing the case to— What the fuck? To order the case of what the should have said that when bringing the case to... What the fuck? To utter the case of what the fuck just happened here. Anybody explain this shit to me? When you were describing all that stuff, my face went cold. Oh, I know. You were like, no fucking way. That's a detail I hid from Jimmy out of this case that he didn't know.
Starting point is 00:57:38 That's crazy. I wanted your natural reaction to that. Holy shit. Because my natural reaction at 2.30 in the morning in my dining room table reading this was, what the fuck? No. No. How do you get to that point? No. Because the dude, they did
Starting point is 00:57:53 the mushrooms. The dude left. He sobered up and came back to get his dog. You would presume that everybody else that took mushrooms has sobered up by now. When he came in he probably thought they'll be sleeping. They'll be sleeping. Hopefully they let my dog out or fed it or gave it some water or something. No. They're not sleeping.
Starting point is 00:58:10 They're still under full control of those mushrooms. Let's also talk about mushrooms for a moment because like I said, I don't know how that affects brain damage and mushrooms is affected, but I've never even heard of somebody freaking out on like on acid someone might freak out. Mushrooms are mild when it comes to that. I've never even heard of somebody freaking out on like on acid. Someone might. Yeah. Weird.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Shins are mild when it comes to that. I've never even heard anybody like harming anybody on acid. I've heard of like they harm themselves. Yeah. Well, I've heard a couple of stories there. Who knows if they're even true. Like the inflammatory shit from the 70s where they were like kids are killing each other and ripping their intestines out and shit like that. But you don't expect it.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And then mushroom. I've never heard of this. Yeah. Mushrooms. Mushrooms. their intestines out and shit like that. But you don't expect it. And then mushroom. I've never heard of this reaction to mushrooms. Never. Mushrooms, I've always seen like a weepy-eyed fucking dude with long hair be like, dude, you want some mushrooms? Like a fucking weirdo.
Starting point is 00:58:53 He'd giggle for a while. Right. Whoa. But this guy. Do you see the colors? That shit. Not this guy's got the devil in him. I need to pull it out. I need to pull it out.
Starting point is 00:59:00 It starts with his heart. Oh, wait. No, his eyeball. And his tongue. And his face skin. Nice. Unbelievable. Now, the DA, John Alexander, asked if Kushner's findings, the doctor, were consistent with
Starting point is 00:59:14 Wyatt's statement to a detective that said that he cut out Powell's tongue and heart with scissors. He did it with scissors. He opened his chest and then clipped off whatever's connecting it. Oh, my God. Clipped off the arteries or whatever and yanked the goddamn thing out. Same thing with his tongue. And you know it was the same scissors he fucking trims the dingleberries off the dogs with.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. It's the same. Some filthy ass. He trims up his mohawk with them, I'm sure, this fucking asshole. So Kushner said that, yes, it was. And he also said it would have been very painful because, quote, there are a considerable amount of nerves in the tongue. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:59:52 No shit. Oh, Jesus. Also examined the heart, tongue, and eyeball separately from the body, just on their own. He played with it, knocked it around a little bit. He played some marbles with the eyeball. Now, the attorney, Fallman, asked Kushner whether the hemorrhaging could have been caused in another way. He said, quote, with choking of someone, isn't it accompanied by hemorrhaging of the eyeballs? And he's working OT, this fucking guy.
Starting point is 01:00:15 He's like, let me find something. I don't know. That's all I can find. Have you ever heard of an eyeball popping out from choking? Let's just say he choked him to death while he was still alive. Then what? And then he removes it after death. Does that make it better, I guess?
Starting point is 01:00:28 He's trying to, I don't know. He's really working hard. He's trying. He's earning his silver hair, this guy. Kushner said that, yes, that sometimes happens, but I doubt it here. Fallman also asked him if there were any injuries that could have been the singular cause of death. You think?
Starting point is 01:00:44 Kushner answered, yes, the removal of the heart. And he added, you fucking dummy. In the middle of court. Jesus Christ. Maybe the heart. Maybe the heart. Dick fucking shit. Maybe opening his chest could have made him bleed to death.
Starting point is 01:00:58 And then removing the heart. Right. Also blunt force trauma to the head. He said that could have done it too. Amongst other organs in there. Pretty sure that heart thing did it based on the other shit. It's kind of the one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:09 He said, quote, Kushner said, quote, it's hard to say whether Powell was conscious or unconscious during the blunt force trauma. It's possible a person would feel some pain even if they were partly unconscious. Yeah. Fulman asked if any of the injuries came after death, and Kushner said that possibly some of the facial injuries were the only ones, but not the tongue, heart, everything else. Maybe he ripped his face off after he died. All right. I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Why would you do that? Right. Yeah. So during these closing arguments now, there's closing arguments, Fallman said that the state had – Fallman, the defense attorney, is trying to tell them that the state had not met. This is all for – this isn't even the trial. Here's the one thing, though. I got to interject in that trial. If I'm the fucking police or anybody, I'd have just been like the fucking witness said he came through the door.
Starting point is 01:01:55 The face was gone and the chest was still closed. I'm going to cut his heart out. None of that shit happened until all that stuff on his face happened and then he pulled the heart out. That's what happened. I think he had a face when Davis was there. He had a face and eyeballs and a tongue. So he wasn't dead yet. And then he did all
Starting point is 01:02:16 of that in the time it took him to call the cops and everything else. He even had it cooked a fucking medium well. All that shit. That's a lot of stuff to do. Keep in mind, this is not the trial. This is the opening. This is a hearing about the special circumstances.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Just whether they're going to put special circumstances on the charge. This is all coming out. Fallman, the defense attorney, silver-haired, middle-aged white man extraordinaire, said that the state had not met the burden of proof for special circumstances, saying there was no calculated purpose for all this. He said, quote, the mere fact that horrible pain is inflicted is not enough. Wow. This might be the silverest man we've ever encountered. That is a dicky thing to say. This could be the silverest guy ever, right?
Starting point is 01:02:56 The fact that he really fucked him up means nothing. No. That's not important here. Let's talk about what really is important. Now, DA John Alexander, the district attorney, said that Wyatt stated that he cut out the tongue because Powell was still whispering. What? That's why he cut out the tongue. Or he was just imagining that he was whispering.
Starting point is 01:03:15 That's the thing, yeah. But he was probably going, please stop, please stop. Don't fucking kill me anymore. He says, quote, when you look at the totality of the circumstances this definitely satisfies the sadistic reason I would say no shit I just saw in my head from full metal jacket that
Starting point is 01:03:32 the girl going shoot me yeah yeah yeah the sniper yeah the sniper hilarious hilarious I can't believe I just said that what a fucking mess man this is this is what we're dealing with this is a disaster this is still hasn't even gone to trial yet. Terrible.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I mean, he's like sitting in his cell trying not to kill himself, probably, I would think. Well, I mean, trying to kill himself. He's tried four times already. He says he tries to say that he's mentally incompetent. If you're the attorney, what else do you have? Not much. You just say, he's fucking crazy. Have you talked to this guy for five minutes, will you? Literally.
Starting point is 01:04:07 He's tried to kill himself in his cell four times. We have been here for 11 days. Let's go over what he did. Let's just look at what the police saw when they arrived, and you tell me that's normal behavior. I don't think it fucking was. So, yeah, he's sitting in a cell. I mean, the cell's probably gross, too. It's just a gray mess. It's in a shitty small thing, you cell. I mean, the cell's probably gross, too. It's just a gray mess.
Starting point is 01:04:25 It's in a shitty small thing, you know what I mean? And then the bar's open. And it's Dexter Manley, interior decorator from New York City. And he says... How is it you've come to arrive here? This place is a mess. It's terrible in here. What are you wearing?
Starting point is 01:04:50 So drab. What are you wearing? I could spruce it up. I could put some curtains. Is that an eyeball? We're going to have to put that somewhere. You can't leave that out. That's not a design is what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:05:02 I can store that somewhere for you. I'm going to design something for you. It's going to be wonderful. It's great. I love it. But just how are you here? I mean, seriously, like why did you come here? What's wrong with you?
Starting point is 01:05:14 And then he leaves. Poof. In a cloud of smoke, he's gone. In a cloud of rainbow smoke. In a cloud of glitter, he's gone. Poof. Out of there. Hilarious.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And it's right back to his cell and drab and he probably hallucinated it he's like did i just see what the fuck i should have cut his fucking heart out he said i will cut your heart so on may 7th 2012 doctor testifies there's a doctor testifying about his competency that wyatt is incompetent to stand trial and according to this doctor because he's unaware of the court proceedings. He'll be examined by other people. For some reason, later on, two weeks later, the defense goes to the judge and he goes, I explained it to him.
Starting point is 01:05:55 He gets shit now. Now he's fine. Literally, he's not crazy. The judge was like, okay, we've got to clear this up. Does he understand shit or not? And the defense literally said, I think it's okay now. We're fine. He said, I explained shit to him. I think he gets it. We had a sit down.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Literally. Told him that hearts aren't cool to cut out. They're like, he understands what's going on in court now because that's the only way they can say that you're not competent to stand trial is if you literally don't understand what's going on. You have no idea where you are or why you're there. So that's the only way. And he says, I explained it to him.
Starting point is 01:06:25 He knows where he is. He understands why he's here so we can proceed, which is an odd thing for a defense attorney to do. You think you go, I keep trying. He's just crazy. He's fucking crazy. He ate a guy's face, ripped his face off. What do you want from me?
Starting point is 01:06:38 I don't know. What am I, a magician? He field dressed his friend. Wow. So, and a pig. So on May 15th, 2012, the judge requests a competency hearing. He's like, let's get this all cleared up. And so they find on May 26th, 2012, the judge rules him competent to stand trial. Thank fuck for that. No doubt. Get this guy put away. I think let's let's fucking move it right along.
Starting point is 01:06:58 Wow. On August 31st, 2012, there's pretrial motions. Why it will be, this is crazy. This is like just laying out what's going to happen in this court case for the day, or for the trial. Wyatt will be, for the whole proceeding, for the trial, he will be chained to a 150-pound chair. Wow. They're going to chain him down so he can't, I don't know, rip anybody's eyeballs out, we'll say. DA said, quote, he'll be chained to the heavy chair, restricting his mobility. Good for all of us.
Starting point is 01:07:27 That's a fucking badass chair. Yeah, that's pretty awesome. I have a lazy boy in my house. I don't think it weighs 150 pounds. I need one of those for my son. Yeah. So I have a nine-year-old son with ADHD. Fucking get him something like that.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Christ almighty. He'd be like, this is great exercise. I love it. Trying to get out of here. Boom. Bench press it. Jesus. So he will have the use of his arms so he can write and motion to his attorney and do shit like that.
Starting point is 01:07:50 They can't just Hannibal Lecter him and pull him in a deal. If there's ever a candidate for it, he's it. Oh, my God. Jesus Christ. He deserves a mask and the whole nine yards, a dolly and all that shit. He really does. So September 7th, 2012, this is four days before the trial is set to begin. A trial is going to go on.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Wyatt decides he doesn't want to go for trial. He pleads guilty to first-degree murder. Good call. Pleads guilty to first-degree murder. He agrees to a preliminary agreement of 50 years to life, making him eligible for parole in 2062. They just wanted some kind of parole. His poor, long-suffering asshole attorney here, James Fallman, said, quote, we looked for an agreement that would at least give him
Starting point is 01:08:35 the opportunity to be paroled someday. He was too damn high for it to be premeditated. As bad as 50 years to life sounds, it's better than life without the possibility of parole. Or the death penalty. Or the death penalty, which originally they were looking at it, and then they ended up taking that off the table. But official sentencing will be the next month in October, on
Starting point is 01:08:54 October 4th. That makes him 79. Yeah, exactly, when he gets out. So that's really not going to happen. I don't know. Maybe. Guys like this live forever. Fast calls like this live forever. So, of the plea da the district attorney john alexander said quote the earliest he'll be able to see a parole board is 2062 we saved taylor's we saved taylor's family the agony from reliving the incident at trial
Starting point is 01:09:16 which is true uh attorney fallman here again said that why it took the deal because he didn't want to have to have his family testify or testify himself. He just wanted it over with, and he was seeing shit anyway. He was coming down hard. Also, they charged him with a firearm infraction. Really? Even though it wasn't used in the crime, that's the thing that warrants an automatic 50-year because there was a firearm around when he did this. Oh, nice. So that gives him an automatic 50-year.
Starting point is 01:09:43 That's going to come up in a second, though, here. They left the weed-growing operation out of the end entirely? Yeah, they just said whatever. Wash it? Wow. No, it's California, too. The laws for weed aren't that stiff. I mean, they're like, what are we going to charge him with there?
Starting point is 01:09:55 We're trying to get him for 100 years and get him off. Now, October 2nd, two days before official sentencing, the plea deal is revised. They have to vacate the pleas and redo it differently. This time, Wyatt pleads guilty to first degree murder and three counts of mayhem. OK, now this he will serve 47 years to life for this. This will get rid of the gun charge. And the reason why they got rid of the gun charge was actually really smart legal maneuvering on the part of the DA. He said, quote, research over the weekend convinced me that there was a distinct possibility that the plea might not have held up several years down the line in
Starting point is 01:10:33 an appellate court. Obviously, he was disgust with Taylor's mother and she was amenable to it. And I'm glad we were able to craft something I'm totally confident we'll stand up to on appeal. Nice. Because later on, they would have came to court and said, well, there was no gun used in this crime. So why is that on there? Take that off of there. Oh, you've been in jail 15 years. Time served. Now you're going to go fucking for parole.
Starting point is 01:10:52 Fuck. Which is smart. That's who he was thinking doing this shit. Instead, he gets him now. He agrees to 47 years is the minimum. Final sentencing is on October 4th. Many of Powell's relatives testified during sentencing. Nice.
Starting point is 01:11:05 Good for them. Show of support. Powell's sister, Erin, said, quote, Powell lived a life of dignity and respect, and his death was neither of those. I struggle to believe his life was actually complete. She's not wrong. He was 21. His life was not complete. He had a lot left to do.
Starting point is 01:11:20 Poor guy. Then the poor mother here, Kathy Powell, she she said she's so nice she said a lot of things about they asked her about how this has affected her she works at an ophthalmologist so she says she sees eyeballs every day oh my god think of her son and like this basically she gave statements of just torment the only thing worse would be if she was a cardiologist you dealt with somebody's heart all day jesus she felt terrible because she was visiting her other son in Tennessee when this happened. So she felt like she wasn't. Yeah, she should have been there. She said, I felt like I wasn't there for my son, even though she said I took it for granted that he would be there. He would always be there. And it's so sad.
Starting point is 01:11:56 He's off in California living his dream. Jesus. And this is how nice this woman is. This is how nice the Wyatt family was also at the at this sentencing hearing. And she actually, she also was mad at Fallman. She kept talking shit about Fallman in the press because she was upset that Fallman would not let her contact the family. Really? She wanted to talk to the Wyatt family.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Yeah, because they're both losing their sons. She wanted to let them know that she was not upset with them and that she forgives them. This is how nice she is. In court, her last thing she says, she motions to the Wyatt family and says, quote, I know it breaks your family also. Both of our families have been affected by this. I'm so sorry. She's saying I'm so sorry to them.
Starting point is 01:12:37 That's how nice of a person she is. What a heart. Oh, I didn't mean to say that. I didn't. Oh, good God. Jesus Christ. At least she's still got hers. That was a complete accident.
Starting point is 01:12:47 She's a man. Wow. Jesus Christ. That's okay. I feel like a piece of shit. Nah, pun number two. It's fine. We'll call it pun number two.
Starting point is 01:12:56 She's a wonderful woman. She's a wonderful woman. Good God. With a great attached heart. She described how she got the call and everything, like how they called her. They called her, and apparently the husband got the call and didn't believe it. They told the husband, you know, blah, blah, blah. And she said she heard the husband go, you're lying.
Starting point is 01:13:12 I don't believe you. Who is this? Like he thought they were full of shit. So it was really difficult. That's how much they believed in their boy. The mother was not aware of the mutilation being before he died until after the second hearing. She found out in court. They told her that these wounds were post-mortem and that he didn't suffer in all of this.
Starting point is 01:13:36 And it turns out in court, she finds out that he suffered as much as a human being could possibly suffer. That's the worst thing to tell a mother. That's why she ran out of that courtroom when I told you about there. That was why. That's horrible, man. It's horrible. So on October 4th, Del Norte Superior Court Judge William Follett says, holy shit, this
Starting point is 01:13:54 is coming from a judge who sees everything, said, quote, the murders I see are so often senseless, but the brutality and horror involved in this case exceed all the bounds I have seen. No doubt. So when the judge is like, dude, you're the worst piece of shit I've ever seen, you're in tough shit, you, sir, may fuck off four consecutive life sentences, eat a dick. Wow. Still eligible for parole in 47 years.
Starting point is 01:14:19 He's not going to get it. He's not going to get it. No way. They're going to take one look at his file and go, oh. Oh, you're that guy. You're the guy with the eyeball. Yeah, yeah no we're not letting you out the eyeball was the like minimalist part of your case that was get the fuck out of here this is there's so much more attached to you uh now october 4th same case here this is the sentencing uh the da alexander said
Starting point is 01:14:42 quote if you listen to the powell family yesterday and why and why its family weep in the hallway, you saw two families broken and devastated for life. No shit. Fuck yeah. And Fallman said, Wyatt's attorney said, quote, I thought that I thought it was very sad. The statements people made were very heartbreaking. Heartbreak. Don't use the word heart in your thing. What a shit back idiot.
Starting point is 01:15:02 I even as soon as it came out of my mouth, I felt like a dick and apologized. And this is his fucking lawyer. This is on the courthouse steps right afterwards. What an asshole. So you have to be even more sensitive because it just happened. He said, yeah, people made were very heartbreaking. When somebody dies, there's never a good result for anybody. Well, no fucking shit.
Starting point is 01:15:20 That's the truth. But, sir, this was exceptionally gross. Exceptionally horrible. And horrible. It's the truth. But, sir, this was exceptionally gross. This was gross. Exceptionally horrible. And horrible. It's a horrifying. You never want your kid to go through that. No.
Starting point is 01:15:31 Ever. No. And to find out why he was still alive. In court. Yeah. From a medical examiner who's clinically describing it. It's not like somebody sat you down and said, okay, and they sensitively gave you the information. This is a medical examiner coldly saying his heart was ripped from his chest
Starting point is 01:15:46 and cut with scissors and his eyeball was removed. I mean, how do you fucking hear that? It's got to be worse hearing it clinically like that rather than somebody with some emotional involvement with it for you. That's horrible. So Jared White is currently in San Quentin. Good. They sent him to San Quentin.
Starting point is 01:16:01 The most terrible place in California next to Pelican Bay. About the most terrible place in in california next to pelican bay about the most terrible guy we can think of i mean honestly i can't think of somebody worse than him that's the kind of guy that deserves to be in that shithole we've had a lot of murder and a lot of horrible shit happened but i'm trying to think of what's second place oh i i guess it's burning that girl in the car that craig titus that's pretty bad titus and uh what's her name but she was dead already she was dead already. She was dead already. They did stun gun her. Maybe the grooming of the entire family.
Starting point is 01:16:29 Joe's son. He didn't kill anybody. You know what, though? Here, let's get into some stuff here. We have for you guys a surprise tonight. We have a surprise tonight. First of all, since it's the end of the first year of Crime and Sports, we have a couple surprises for you tonight.
Starting point is 01:16:43 First, we're going to go over the rules with you. Oh, fantastic. These are the rules that we've accumulated over time. Because a lot of people, you'll hear us go, oh, Jesus, don't name your son after yourself. Oh, don't find religion. Right. These are rules that we've accumulated. And we're going to explain them to you, where they came from, why we have them.
Starting point is 01:16:58 And then after that, we have the most fun ever. I worked on this. This is a surprise. We are going to have the Crime and Sports Year One Scummy Awards. The scummies. You're giving away scummies. It's an honor to receive a scummy. Should we send them something? Should they
Starting point is 01:17:13 jail cell if they're still alive? There is no honor on or off the field that matches the prestige of receiving a scummy. None. MVP? No. I am so proud of you for a pun like scummy scummy world heavyweight champion no the scummy is on top of it all so good the scummy tops the pile but before we get into that i do want to say one thing here from uh i have to complain about something here and it's a fucking
Starting point is 01:17:39 complaint you've heard me complain about skip ballast before and i have a new skip ballast jimmy i have a fucking new one i'm so fucking angry at this shit i don't know if any of you guys ever listen to colin cowherd yeah colin cowherd's a sports guy and like i said crime and sports people crime people give me about two minutes and we'll get into the scummies and we'll get into lots of funny shit about criminal athletes but for one second i have to rant about this cocksucker i listen to colin cowherd show once in a while just to keep up on sports shit, basically. And it's basically like, hey, who won last night? Is this guy hurt? Oh, Russell
Starting point is 01:18:09 Westbrook keeps having triple doubles. Terrific. I need to know some sports shit, basically. And I don't have cable, so I can't fucking watch highlight shows. So I need radio and podcasts. So this is what I do. So I listen to this asshole, and he consistently does the same bullshit as Skip Bayless. He is now the new skip ballast
Starting point is 01:18:25 cowherd cowherd's the new skip ballast because he does it in a way that's not so obnoxious yeah but he's still every one of his quote little fucking hot takes yeah are just the opposite of logic yeah it's just i don't know i'm gonna be bold as fuck i'm gonna be bull i'm just gonna tell you you know tom bray's gonna have a terrible game he's fucking not. And you know he's fucking not. And you're betting on them, you fucking asshole. He's playing the Jets, Cowherd. Fuck you. And it goes from week to week to week. Literally. It's true. He will rip
Starting point is 01:18:53 fucking somebody and the next week he'll be saying how great. It's like, dude, we were here last week. What is wrong with you? And then to make matters worse, he has hooked himself up with that fucking hack Jason Whitlock, who is worse than him and Skip Bayless put together. This piece of shit has no fucking scruples at all. He's this guy, and I'm going to say this, and I'm a white guy, whatever, I can't say whatever.
Starting point is 01:19:14 He's a fucking black guy that says whatever you would think the opposite of what a black guy would say. That's his game. That's his fucking game. If you're up there going, isn't Martin Luther King great? He's going to come up with a reason why Martin Luther King isn't so fucking great. What a dildo. And then these two now have decided to get together. He's a fat fuck too.
Starting point is 01:19:35 These two have decided to get together and have a show where they jerk each other off, supporting each other's bullshit. It's the fucking worst. This guy's a hack. Stop listening to him. Turn him off or listen to him. See how fucking bad he is and then tweet at him, you hack fat fuck. Stop it with your goddamn fucking, oh, this guy makes me so goddamn mad. He does it with everything.
Starting point is 01:19:57 He's this old, he is the typical, he's pulling the, he's trying to be Bill Cosby before he was raping, before everyone knew he was a rapist. He's trying to be Bill Cosby, pull up your pants bullshit. That's his rapist he's trying to be Bill Cosby pull up your pants bullshit that's his whole thing pull up your pants pull up your pants everybody be a gentleman yeah go fuck yourself pull up your pants he tried to say the other day that LeBron James LeBron fucking James who has is not allowed to have a fucking political opinion LeBron James now I'm sorry LeBron James number Now, I'm sorry. LeBron James, number one, there's a goddamn city that has an economic fucking rebirth because of only him. He has made probably, and I don't give a shit what your politics are. You know Trump's a marketing guy and his net worth is marketing.
Starting point is 01:20:36 I guarantee you LeBron has more liquid dollars than fucking Donald Trump does. He's not allowed to have a fucking opinion on shit. Why is that? There's like seven stars in the NBA and none of them are as big of a star as LeBron. Jason Whitlock went on a whole goddamn huge rant about LeBron shouldn't keep his mouth shut and all that. Go fuck yourself. Eat shit, Jason.
Starting point is 01:20:55 How about you keep your mouth shut? What the fuck have you done to earn your fucking opinion? That's the truth. What have you done, Jason? What have you done to earn your goddamn fucking opinion? You latched on to Colin Cowherd who already had a huge audience Colin Cowherd he tries so hard to spoon feed Whitlock to us
Starting point is 01:21:09 he keeps saying we're going to have Whitlock Whitlock guess what no one watches Whitlock's fucking show nobody wants Jason Whitlock Colin no one cares fuck you stop being yeah and Cowherd's a smart guy which pisses me off when you hear him he's a smart guy and he could be fucking better that's why I know it's calculated.
Starting point is 01:21:26 I really think Skip Bayless is like he thinks he found something like I can just say dumb shit and they'll listen. I feel like he thinks he discovered fucking plutonium whereas Cowherd has a goddamn chart where he's like if I say this, it'll piss these people off driving ratings here. He's got like
Starting point is 01:21:41 bubble graphs and shit. He's a cock sucking mad scientist is what he is. He thinks he's a defensive coordinator driving his audience. Yeah, exactly. Okay, sorry I had to get that out of my system. But sports people, you'll get me. Now, okay. That's been bothering me all week.
Starting point is 01:21:56 All right. Now, first of all, I'd like to explain the rules. And I'd also like to explain the origins of a couple things. You hear us say silver-haired, middle-aged white man all the time. It's a very common theme in this show. That's their enabler. That's the guy, usually a coach, usually somebody like that, who no matter what the detriment this person is to society, they will back them and do whatever it is to keep them out of trouble if it benefits the silver-haired, middle-aged white man personally.
Starting point is 01:22:23 That money has got to keep coming in. It's a lawyer. It's a coach. It's guys like that. And it doesn't. It's an agent. It's a fucking best friend. Yes.
Starting point is 01:22:31 They don't have a lot of people. Silver haired or white. Right. It turns out most of the time they are silver haired middle aged white men. So it became a thing. Right. Also, we've had a lot of people ask us where the shawarma man and the Mexican pimp came from.
Starting point is 01:22:43 Two different episodes. Two different episodes. Mexican pimp is Willie Mayss akins episode i believe it's 26 uh willie mays akins was in a in a motel room in mexico he was he was a world series hero a couple years before now he's out of the league playing baseball in mexico he had uh bought a hooker yeah and while he was in the bathroom doing a shitload of coke because he had a horrible cocaine problem that's why he was in mexico while he was doing a bunch of coke, the hooker had robbed him and run away and taken all his money. So a few minutes later, he's sitting there broke with no hooker.
Starting point is 01:23:13 Feeling like shit. Wired out of his mind, and there's a knock at the door, and he opens it, and it's a Mexican pimp with two guns blazing, looking at him. Pointing them right at him. Pointing at him, thinking he robbed him. The guy comes in. The Mexican pimp recognized who he was because it had been in the local paper that a big star put the guns down, poured him a drink, called him over and just sat him there and said, how is you've come to arrive here?
Starting point is 01:23:39 That was what he said to him. He said in Spanish, how is it you've come to arrive here? He actually said to him, how the fuck does this happen to you, man? In Spanish, and it sounded beautiful. And I said, that's the question we need to ask every single athlete. How is it you've come to arrive here? And then the shawarma man was Dave Meggett. I think it's episode 30 or 31, 32, something like that.
Starting point is 01:24:00 Dave Meggett was accused of rape. Fucking landlord. Yeah, he was accused of rape like eight times yeah and what he was trying to his lawyers were trying to smear one of his victims right so they got a statement from her ex-landlord in the paper and it was clearly a foreigner yeah like there was words it was awesome she say she have money then she no give to us was the was the exact quote i was like she says she have money then she no give to us was the exact quote. I was like, she say she have money, then she no give to us. And then it turned into, you know, I don't know how that happened. Sounds like a guy that sells shawarma.
Starting point is 01:24:31 I think that's what he said. Yeah, sounds like somebody who sells shawarma. Next thing you know, I made up a fucking song and here we are. And he fucking exists now. Now he exists. And Dexter Manley, interior designer, was from last episode when there was a guy actually named Dexter Manley who was an interior designer we know that's not his real name that's so great it's too perfect that's the only reason why I do that voice is because he named himself Dexter Manley interior designer he is flamboyant he's a I gotta come up with like some house music for
Starting point is 01:24:58 his shit his name was like girly and he was like I can't do that one everybody keeps making fun of me I'm going Dexter Dexter. Dexter's strong. Dexter. Dexter. Sounds like I'm a big, strong man. And then Manly. Dexter, man, doesn't get any better than that. Yes.
Starting point is 01:25:11 And then he looked it up and was like, fuck. And he snapped and everything. That's it. He already had business cards made up when he found out. He was like, God damn it. I have to run with it. I guess I'm Dexter Manly. Now, so we're going to go over a couple of our rules with you here.
Starting point is 01:25:23 These are the rules we've come up with over time. Number one, way to eat here with the scummies, by the way. That would be great. Number one, never, never move back to your hometown. Ever. Ever. Leave and stay gone. If you're an athlete and you're a big star and you start to crumble and you move back to your hometown, good Lord, you'll be in prison in six months.
Starting point is 01:25:40 No time at all. You will be doing cocaine. Because you resort all the wrong people. Right. You resort back to the same old friends doing the same old bad shit. And guess what you fall into? Bullshit. Right.
Starting point is 01:25:49 Now, when things are going badly, do not get married. Yeah. Don't get married. Don't do that. How many people have we had just got out of prison and then they had another crack arrest and they just got kicked out of the league and they're like, I know, I'll get married now. And then you got married.
Starting point is 01:26:03 You're like, why? Why? Clearly, every decision you are making right now is wrong right do not commit yourself legally else make your decisions for you wow don't yeah stop committing yourself to another human being legally what the fuck is wrong with you also keep your silver-haired middle-aged white man close even close the guys who get away with shit and actually get out of prison and and and rejoin society have very very strong silver-haired middle-aged white man support, and it works for them. Do not have a teenager in your hit squad. We've had this happen a couple times.
Starting point is 01:26:34 First with Bruno Fernandez de Sousa, who killed his girlfriend, chopped her up, and had her fed to a dog. Who's his cousin? He had a teenage cousin who ended up flipping on him and telling the whole story to the police. Big problem. And a documentary and everything else. So don't do that. We had a couple other times where somebody had like a 17-year-old kid. I'm like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 01:26:50 Don't do that. No minors. Absolutely. Do not, when things are going bad, do not find religion. No religion. Stop it. If you've made it this far without religion, it's not going to fucking help you. It will take you down a farther
Starting point is 01:27:05 down the path of wrong it just will normally i'm not saying that does that to everybody but if you're a criminal athlete with charges pending right there's just something about finding religion that makes you go out and do the same shit over again but worse this time it's the icy part of the slope is just straight the fuck down totally man that's the perfect analogy you said that before i'm like yes, yes, that's right. You got it, dude. You nailed that shit, man. Don't find religion.
Starting point is 01:27:29 And finally, number one, and most importantly, for the love of Christ, don't name your kids after yourself. It's so bad. Don't. Out of 53 episodes, now this is our 53rd, we have had, I believe it's 15 juniors. 15 juniors. Almost a third of them. And that doesn't count the juniors who they named after themselves
Starting point is 01:27:50 who then did shit that we just haven't done a story on yet. Holy shit. It's terrible. It really is remarkable. Honestly, at first it was funny. That's like three guys named Junior. And then by 50, you're like, dude, what the fuck? What the fuck is going on here? This is an epidemic.
Starting point is 01:28:05 There's a problem. Just don't do it. Junior doesn't fucking, just because you're proud of yourself and you want a guy to carry on your fucking legacy, just give him your last name and move on. It's fine. Give him your middle name after you. Give him your middle name. Or give him your same first name, but a different middle name.
Starting point is 01:28:19 Like my father had the decency to do, so I'm not a fucking criminal. Thanks, Dad. Jesus Christ almighty. So, yeah, those are our rules in general. That was so fun. And there's a couple that are very specific to episodes, but those are the ones that come up repeatedly and constantly and that we really feel like everybody should know, especially if you're an athlete out there, especially if you're an athlete that might be getting into some trouble. Keep those rules close to your heart. Now, let's get into it, Jimmy.
Starting point is 01:28:43 This is amazing. I'm so excited. Keep those rules close to your heart. Now, let's get into it, Jimmy. This is amazing. I'm so excited. The pageantry involved in the year one crime and sports scummy awards. Let's do it. These are the scummiest people. No honor matches it, Jimmy. No honor. No honor. No honor matches. No honor.
Starting point is 01:29:06 No honor. No honor at all. How did you do the categories? This I can't wait for. First, we have a couple of honoraries. There's no competition for it. It's like when they give someone a Lifetime Achievement Award or something like that. It's not a competitive category, just somebody. We are giving the Golden Gilretha Award for Best Mother of a Criminal Athlete.
Starting point is 01:29:25 This is for Most Supportive Mother of a Criminal Athlete. No matter what they do, she's got to play every day. She flies to another state to be there. This goes to Gilretha Dotson. Yes, she was so good. Carlton Dotson's mother, I believe it's episode 11 or 12. We're naming
Starting point is 01:29:42 the award after her, giving her the first annual. She stuck with this guy after he killed a guy, possibly tried to cut his head off in the desert, and just went basically batshit. She's still stuck there. She said it was her fault. She was begging, can I serve the time for him? That's how bad she felt for the whole thing. Don't blame Baylor.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Don't blame the coach. Blame me. Me. Mama Gilretha, as we call her. Mama Gilretha did it wrong. So the Golden Gilretha Awards there, that goes to her. Gilretha Dodson. Also, too, I got to give this award.
Starting point is 01:30:12 It's another honorary award. But not nearly as bad as award, okay? This is for the unluckiest non-athlete with the name of a criminal athlete. All right. The unluckiest one that you're like, dude, they're going to really think that's him. Yeah. That goes to Arch Leaster. This poor Arch Leaster.
Starting point is 01:30:33 It's exact same spelling. And that's a really, really rare name. That's a tough one. It's a tough one. There's a C-H in that shit. And Arch Leaster, if you remember, had all sorts of financial crimes. If you go back and listen to Arch Leaster. He's a swindler like a motherfucker. If you go back and listen to Arch Leaster.
Starting point is 01:30:46 He's a swindler like a motherfucker. He ruined people's lives. He's a horrible person. Stole money from everybody he ever came in contact with. Was a horrible gambler. All this shit. Well, this poor Arch Leaster is a financial advisor. He wants you to give him your money.
Starting point is 01:31:01 The fucking luck. In Scottsdale, Arizona. So if you're in Scottsdale, Arizona and you need some financial advice, give Arch Leaster a try. It's not his fault. It's just not his fault. He has no, he's not going to gamble your money. Maybe he will. Don't put that on me.
Starting point is 01:31:13 But he won't do it. But at least this isn't the same guy. Not the same guy. There might be two Swindlers. Now we have competitive categories here. Awesome. This is the first annual Skip Bayless Award for the biggest liar. Can I guess? This is the biggest. Well, we have for the biggest liar. Can I guess? Well, we have a three.
Starting point is 01:31:28 We have three. Okay. We have Lenny Dykstra is up for this award. Art Schliester, also up for this award. Russell Erksleben is the third one with an honorable mention. We're not going to put him in because he was just last week, but honorable mention to Dexter Manley, who had a full rant on how much of a con man, cheat, manipulator, and liar he was. I'm tempted not to give it to him anyway,
Starting point is 01:31:50 just because he admitted it. The other three, just like, they're trying to fucking act like they're upstanding people still. Yes, they are. I am going to give this award, Jimmy. This is a real toss-up, because all these people did,
Starting point is 01:32:01 but the fashion that he did it in, it goes to lenny dykstra it goes to lenny that's what i was going with too he his he lied to hbo he lied to on camera talking about how great his life is in a fucking empty mansion that was up for fucking auction he owed millions and millions of dollars and he literally said i have money and took took 70 dollars out of his pocket dollars and bills out of his pocket it's like see i have money they were like that's not what you owe 10 million dollars that's like 80 bucks that doesn't pay the water bill here the fuck is wrong with you so lenny dykstra for being a complete liar piece of shit and also too for the the far one
Starting point is 01:32:39 of the funnier awful statements that anyone's ever made of i'm not racist i don't hate women look at my magazine look at the first three magazines i put out quote ever look at the covers two darkies and a bitch the bitch part puts it right the fuck over darkies and a bitch so these three were a toss-up honestly and the two darkies and a bitch comment put it over the top. For the biggest liar award. Congratulations to Lenny Dykstra. Hope you keep that in your head. Hope you're doing well eating all that pussy because that's his new claim to fame. Oh, he loves it, yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:12 He was on Howard Stern fucking pimping out. That's all he talks about now. It's crazy. What a vile human being. Our next category here is the best self-given nickname ever. We have guys who love to give themselves nicknames, which should be another rule. That's a popular one. First of all, we have Clifford ATN with the Black Rhino.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Yeah. We have Evangelos Goussis with the Vampire Gigolo. Oh, this is going to be tough because I know the last one. Robert Rozier as the Gorilla Pimp. The Gorilla Pimp. This is a tough one. I like Vampire Gigolo. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Well, that wasn't given to Evangelogus. That was one of the guys who was killed. Oh, that's right. As a victim. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guy that he killed would call himself the Vampire Gigolo. He was proud of the Vampire Gigolo. So what do you think here out of these three, Jim?
Starting point is 01:33:59 I'm going to let you award this category. I'm going to go ahead and give it to the gorilla pimp. I think you should. Yeah, the gorilla pimp. I think you're right. He wins. He definitely wins. Congratulations. Congratulations. Serving life in prison in California. We'll go ahead and send you that award.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Don't worry about that. Now, best silver-haired middle-aged white man award. This is the most helpful. This is a good one. The person who has caused us the most shit with their enabling. We have three choices here. Number one is going to actually be Fallman from the case we with their enabling. Right. Okay? We have three choices here. Okay. Number one is going to actually be Fallman from the case we just covered. All right.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Working overtime, working hard, getting in at the last second. Number two is going to be Coach Pagone. Oh, yeah. Way back in episode number two, if you listen to Lawrence Phillips, that is also the origin of In Their Own Words. Right. In Their Own Words music is because Lawrence Phillips was writing letters to his old coach.
Starting point is 01:34:46 In crayon. It wasn't, but that's what we imagined. It sounded like a 10-year-old writing a letter from camp. He was like, dear Coach Pagone, it's really rough in here. The guys are jerks. Like, that's literally what he was saying. So I went home and I put together, and the song is actually called Letters from Camp.
Starting point is 01:35:03 That's the title from the song, because I thought it was just going to be for that episode and then I said fuck it let's just put it under all their clothes and make them sound super melodramatic and fucking hilarious so uh with this one and the third one is Pete Roselle okay Pete Roselle the commissioner of the 80s who oversaw of the NFL commissioner in the 80s who oversaw more cocaine craziness reinstatement of scent of suspensions that should have never been reinstated, and every fucking thing else. And the winner in this category goes to Pete Rozelle for pure volume. For just fucking everything up.
Starting point is 01:35:36 He just had so many guys. Open door policy. Everybody on Coke's welcome. So much. I mean, you could gamble he'd let you back in. Look at Schliester. He did everything wrong. Terrible. Kept getting let back in here. Now we have I mean, you could gamble. He'd let you back in. Look at Schliester. He did everything wrong. Terrible.
Starting point is 01:35:46 Kept getting let back in here. Now, we have the dumbest scumbag that we've encountered. This is on pure IQ points and the guy who you would least want to be like, you know, Jeopardy or Trivial Pursuit partners with at a party. Okay. We have number one, Tommy Morrison. Yeah. Tommy Morrison was so stupid.
Starting point is 01:36:08 He did not think that HIV caused AIDS and then died of AIDS. Right. While insisting he did not have AIDS. He did not have AIDS. Because HIV doesn't cause AIDS. Right. So, yeah, that's Tommy. Dexter Manley for not being able to fucking read until he was 30 years old. Being a Dex-tard.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Being a Dex-tard. He didn't, you know, illiteracy. He went to a school for retards. He did. That's what he called it. Not us. That's his work, not ours. And third, Marvin Barnes, who did not understand how time zones work and said he would not get in a plane because
Starting point is 01:36:35 of, quote, I ain't getting in no time machine. This was the toughest category we had. Winner here. It's tough, but I really think it has to go to Tommy Morrison. How do you fucking... The other two, you can blame the system
Starting point is 01:36:52 for breaking, for letting them down. But for him, he has books and he goes to see a doctor who tells him, you have AIDS. He goes, nah, motherfucker, I don't got AIDS. He literally said, no, not me. He said, HIV doesn't cause AIDS, dude. No, I had HIV, but now I don't have it anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:07 I got rid of it, and even if I did have it, it doesn't cause AIDS anymore. I just got the flu, so treat this. I can't. You have AIDS, and it's going to kill you. Your immune system is decimated. There isn't one. And also, too, he was having unprotected sex with his girlfriend all the way up to the end when he was having AIDS because he convinced that idiot that she can't get AIDS because he can't get AIDS.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Because he doesn't have AIDS. No one's got AIDS. So Tommy Morrison, the dumbest scumbag of the year. We're going to do this every year. I love this. This is the longest fall from glory. This is not counting prison. This is on the outside.
Starting point is 01:37:37 How far have you fallen? Yeah. From what height have you come, basically? Okay. Now, the first candidate would be Daryl Alums. Daryl Alums, who was a basketball star who ended up homeless. And in his final act that I saw of criminality recently was run out of a Bev Mart for stealing wine and coming in and threatening people and being the crazy homeless guy that threatens people. That's a pretty good fall from grace.
Starting point is 01:38:01 Ryan Leaf. Oh, that's it. Yeah. From fucking number one draft pick to fucking goodbye number two overall getting a huge giant contract to breaking into people's houses to steal the pills out of their medicine to now giving speeches about how to not do that yeah which he'll be back and trying to talk to johnny manziel and really basically just latch on to somebody else that he can keep his name out there. Let's get those two together. That'll be a good party for everybody.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Jesus Christ. So Ryan Leaf, number two. Number three, Larry Bethea. That's a good one. Larry Bethea returned down going to Harvard to play football for Michigan State and ended up shooting himself in the head outside of a crack house, flop house. God, that's so terrible to laugh at. Because he had nothing else.
Starting point is 01:38:43 He had stole money from his mother. He wiped out his mother's life savings and then shot himself in the head outside of a crack house. This is a good category. That's Bigger's longest fall from glory. I'm going to let you pick this one, Jeremy. Go ahead. I'm going to fucking just throw that envelope right over there to Bethea because that is definitely 100%. You don't rob your mother.
Starting point is 01:39:03 You don't rob your mother and then die outside of a crack house to a self-inflicted gunshot wound. That's 100% Harry. That's very sad. Now, this is one of my favorite categories. We only have four categories left. They're very exciting. This is one of my favorites here. Most likely to have a second crime and sports episode.
Starting point is 01:39:20 Most likely to do more and fuck up again. Okay, we have Isaiah Ryder, just for sheer volume. This guy's been arrested over 30 times, and he's a pro at it. This guy, when you need someone to get arrested, he's your guy. He's better at that than he is at playing basketball. Oh, yeah, he's been doing it much longer. He's much better at it. He's an all-star when it comes to that.
Starting point is 01:39:39 Jason Williams, who is so fucking stupid and arrogant that I feel like he could fuck up again very easily. Jason Williams back in episode four, I believe, shot his little driver in the face. And he's out there. So anything can happen. He's out there hitting trees and shit already. He's still got money in his pocket, too, which scares me.
Starting point is 01:39:54 You betcha. That's bad. And third, Marlon King, a British soccer player who can't stop fucking up and being a complete jerk to everybody. This category, just based on odds. If I was an odds maker, I'm going to have to give it to Isaiah Riley. Yes. Just based on pure volume.
Starting point is 01:40:10 You know, the other two. Pure volume and the fact that he's out of money. And he's out of, yeah. That's a big problem. When you're out of money and you're a criminal. And you're a criminal. Career criminal. Doesn't matter, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:19 Your career for crime is much longer than it is basketball. That's a problem. And you've had a 25-year cocaine problem, which can reoccur often. Those ignite when you're really out of money. Yeah. Now, this category here, person you'd least want to date your daughter. Thank you, Mel Hall. This category.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Actually, Mel Hall did not make the cut, shockingly enough. First would be Dave Maggett, who, if he is in the same room as your daughter she's getting raped you betcha much this guy raped everything he ever touched i swear to god he met a cat once he raped it he rapes everything he's just a raper he was the one who has the famous quote time to pay up bitch that's right as he dragged an unconscious woman off to rape a horrible person uh second would be john paul., who has not one but two missing women pushed over the side of a boat in the ocean. And they have not found him. Yeah, he's last seen in the Fiji Islands somewhere. We have no idea where the hell he is.
Starting point is 01:41:15 That's right. Who knows? Or in Thailand with a surf shop. And third and finally, Bruno Fernandez de Sousa, who actually not only he had a pregnant girlfriend that he first kidnapped and forced at gunpoint to take a black market abortion drug. And when that didn't work and the kid was born, he kidnapped the kid, took it to his ex-girlfriend's house and took her, tortured her for days and eventually killed her, cut her up and fed her to his Rottweilers.
Starting point is 01:41:43 And then buried the rest of her in concrete. In concrete with a guy named Bola, I believe. That's right. Wow, that was a long time ago. That's, I believe, episode six, and we were going back a long way. Who are you giving it to? I am giving this to Bruno Fernandez de Sousa. At least the ocean would be an easier way to go, and neither of these guys.
Starting point is 01:42:02 Dave Meggett's close, too, but that's a tough one. Meggett was the one that slammed the girl's hand in the door, too, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was Meggett's close, too, but that's a tough one. Meggett was the one that slammed the girl's hand in the door, too, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That was Meggett. Yeah, he's a piece of shit. He had to go on. What a vile human being. Now, second to last here, most likely to find and kill me. Who is most likely to hunt me
Starting point is 01:42:18 down and kill me like a dog in the street for doing this to them? Number one is Lee Murray. He's crazy, and he seems like he'd just want to kill anybody. And he's up's up in canada right moroccan prison oh that's right so he's scaring me uh john paul senior because we don't even know where he is he could be in the building right now he could be waiting outside the door for us right now to cut my fucking throat so him i don't know and third ion crotaro one in canada who is a crazy guy who blew up a police station and everything else he's a psychopath maybe a jeep salesman and a jeep salesman and he is known for
Starting point is 01:42:51 literally coming down to wrestle because he was a wrestler from canada to the states shirtless in an open jeep in the middle of winter he's a crazy son of a bitch i am going to give this one to ion crotaro because he has the most access. We're on the same continent. I feel like he could just get in his Jeep, come right to my house and kill me where the other two would have a harder time. We have great infrastructure in interstates here. I'm sure he could get here quick. It's terrific.
Starting point is 01:43:16 And then finally, here it is. The most, just the biggest award. This is the big one, guys. This is the picture. This is it right here. The biggest scumbag of the year. 53 men. Who is the big one, guys. This is the best picture. This is it right here. The biggest scumbag of the year. 53 men. Who is the biggest scumbag of them all? You're finalists
Starting point is 01:43:32 for this category, Jimmy. We have Joe Sun. Joe Sun, who was the guy, he played Oddjob or Random Task in Austin Powers. The first Austin Powers movie. He kidnapped a woman and probably the most terrifying rape that we've covered. The worst thing I've, yeah, the worst rape I've, this episode today, it was the that
Starting point is 01:43:51 of rape, basically. Threatened to kill her, held a gun to her head, acted like he was going to kill her. Raped her with the gun. Raped her repeatedly, everywhere he possibly could, with the gun, with everything. Said he was going to kill her and ended up letting her go, running into the horrible scene, just the horrible scene. Just a horrible person. Ruined Christmas for her forever.
Starting point is 01:44:08 Generally just a horrible person. Number two, Eddie Johnson. Eddie Johnson was arrested over 100 times, and his final crime was raping an eight-year-old girl. Oh, Jesus. An eight-year-old girl, okay? And number three, Bruno Fernandez de Sousaa back in the list again for killing his girlfriend. Like I said, feeding her a black market abortion drug at gunpoint when that didn't work, killing her, chopping her up, having her fed to Rottweilers and encased in concrete.
Starting point is 01:44:35 This award. This was a tough one. Yeah, the judges, they were up all night with this. I kept knocking on the door and they kept saying five more minutes. And then eventually the white smoke came up and I said we have a new saint. We've chosen a new scumbag and it's Eddie Johnson. Scumbag of the year. A hundred arrests
Starting point is 01:44:54 and finally to top it off raping an eight year old girl. That is beyond the pale. At least Bruno Fernandez at least that girl, that woman he chopped up at least chose to talk to him at some point. Joe Sundman, an eight-year-old girl, that takes the cake. The extenuating circumstance, too.
Starting point is 01:45:13 Not extenuating. What's the fucking word? The qualifying part of that rape, too, is that he slid a dresser in front of the door, not to keep the girl in, but to keep the people out that were in the fucking house. Yes. He did this. That's vile. With people there and said-
Starting point is 01:45:29 What a horrible person. I don't want anyone to stop me while I'm doing this. Luckily, he's in prison for life. Yay. So he can get fucked right off. Bye, Fast Eddie. And that is the year one Crime and Sports Scummy Awards. Yay.
Starting point is 01:45:43 I hope everybody liked the Scummy Awards and liked year one of Crime and Sports in general. This has been such a fun year. I've had a blast, guys. Between watching this grow, watching it expand, and watching the audience expand and interact on social media and everywhere has been fucking incredible. It's wild. It really is. It's really worth every effort and moment that we put into this. So thank all of you for listening.
Starting point is 01:46:07 Thank you guys for building this with us. It's been great. I'll tell you right now, I basically don't sleep from Tuesday to Thursday. I go home on Thursday nights. We're recording on a Thursday night. I go home and we record Small Town Murder the same night. So we got done recording that. Now we're recording this.
Starting point is 01:46:23 I go home and I sit there and I basically stare at the wall like a complete catatonic for like 12 hours i just stare at the wall and just go good god i got through it because i have been doing nothing but research and all the shit and i do it i like to do it coming up to the day so i want to get most of it done the day of so it's a mess and it's so fucking worth it guys i love it so much and we just we we have so much fun doing this and thanks for for joining us to make it so we can do this and we're not doing it for ourselves right and it's become something and don't don't because of you guys for the building of this has been more rapid now than before the beginning stages of wanting to quit because the audience was so small and it didn't feel worth it. Now it's so rewarding to come in here and sit down at this amazing console that we get to record at.
Starting point is 01:47:17 And it's because of you guys. So thank you. Thank you guys so much. Amazing, amazing thank you to all of you. We went from my living room to like another room in a house that we got to this. To a room that's a studio that's the size of my living room. And it's an amazing
Starting point is 01:47:32 top notch studio and it sounds good and we hope you guys are enjoying the sound of it. Studio that's worth as much as my house. Honestly, yeah really. Thank you guys. We couldn't do this without you really. We're not journalists. We've said it before. We're not journalists. We're not we don't have a network. We're not anything. All we are are a couple of comics. We're not even famous We've said it before. We're not journalists. We don't have a network. We're not anything. All we are are a couple of comics. We're not even
Starting point is 01:47:47 famous comics. I wish I knew Joe Rogan. That's what I mean. We've only been doing comedy five and six years. So, I mean, we're not household names. We don't have Comedy Central specials. We don't have any of that. This is the most recognition we've got for anything. So, thank you guys so much. It makes us feel
Starting point is 01:48:03 great. We love it. We hope you guys love it. It makes us feel great. Yeah. We love it. We hope you guys love it. We're not journalists. It's all you guys. The crime and sports movement have spread this thing and it's out of our hands now, man. It's a wildfire and we're happy to have it. And we love letting it spread.
Starting point is 01:48:16 That's our crime and sports deal here. Thank you guys so much. We're going to do some shout outs right now. Let me grab those. Jimmy's got a bunch of shout outs to do. And, man, we're just excited. It's great. If you need to get a hold of shout outs to do. And, uh, damn, we're just excited. It's, it's great.
Starting point is 01:48:25 If you need to get ahold of me, let's do our social media quick first. Uh, you can get ahold of me at Jimmy P is funny on all, whatever. And, uh, James Petrigal,
Starting point is 01:48:33 you can look for my name. Also, if you want to get a shout out, first thing you can do iTunes review, iTunes, iTunes, iTunes, please five stars.
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Starting point is 01:49:07 So please do that if you want. There's some cool rewards on there and whatever, but you just know that you're helping out the show and we appreciate it more than you know. And if you want to get a hold of us also on social media and get one of these shout outs, you can follow us at Twitter. On Twitter, you can follow us at Crime and Sports. Instagram at Crime and Sports. Facebook.com slash Crime and Sports. Crimeandsports at gmail.com if you want to send us an email,
Starting point is 01:49:30 and you'll get a nice shout-out like this. Brett Bate, Melissa Teufel, Michael Carter, Nicola Duncan. I don't know. Becky Figueroa, Mike Stoff. Yeah, Nicola. It's foreign. Nicola. It's foreign. Nicola. I know it.
Starting point is 01:49:47 I'm terrible at this. Mike Stoff, Benjamin Mark Gale III. Don't you dare, sir. You get rid of that. You're walking on thin wire, brother. I'm sorry. Dude, just stay in the lines, dude. Just keep it between the lines and just go forward.
Starting point is 01:50:01 Ten and two, brother. The speed limit. Don't speed. Lucretia Walton-Hester, Anthony Buckley, Ash Preston, Emily Zaleski, Dave Sonsdahl, John Keane, Alan Berokovich in Buffalo Grove, Illinois, Aziza Z. Mbali in England, and Brett Bate. I already said Brett Bate. In Wrexham, North Wales.
Starting point is 01:50:21 So much. We love you so much, Brett. We said you twice. And of course, too, the course of the year, the people who have been with us the whole time. The kind of the North Wales. So much. We love you so much, Brett. We said you twice. And of course, too, the course of the year, the people who have been with us the whole time, the kind of the horsemen, the guys,
Starting point is 01:50:29 the Busby and Jay Wedbetter, and Shauna Storia, and then Monge. Monge, Sean, you four have been fucking amazing. So thank you guys. And of course,
Starting point is 01:50:37 the good Reverend Jonathan Gilliam. Yeah, man. We've got to throw him in there. He's always been supporting of us, the good Rev. And we hope the good Rev, we know the Rev's been going through some times.
Starting point is 01:50:46 It's all good, Rev, man. We got you back, brother. He got new glasses this week. Good for you, buddy. I hope everything's working out. I hope you're feeling better about everything and about life in general. Yeah, man. Because, man, life is good.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Yeah. It's good. It's been amazing. He got us twice a week. That's it. And make sure, by the way, you know this show comes out every Tuesday. Make sure every single Thursday to check out Small Town Murder. Yes.
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Starting point is 01:52:01 The wait is over. So far, you're not losing. The only thing you're losing is my patience. Quickly, I see that. Ding! The queen of the courtroom is back. I didn't do anything. You wouldn't know the truth if it came up
Starting point is 01:52:15 and slapped you in the face. I see he's not intimidated by anything. I can fix that. New cases. She wanted to fight me. Leave her alone. Okay, so, um... This is not a so. This is a period.
Starting point is 01:52:32 Classic Judy. Did you sleep with her? Yes, Your Honor. You married his cousin. His brother. That's not him. Yes, ma'am. I would make a beeline for the door.
Starting point is 01:52:43 The Emmy Award-winning series returns. How did I know that? I have a crystal ball in my head. It's an all-new season. It's streaming. You can say anything. Judy Justice. Only on Freebie.

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