Crime in Sports - #6 - Don't They Have Milkbones In Brazil? - The Horrors of Bruno Fernandes De Souza

Episode Date: March 15, 2016

This week, we do some serious Google translating to cover a man who went from the glamour of being the captain of Brazil's most famed soccer team, to kidnapping his ex-porn actress girlfriend, who is also the mother of his child, and having her chopped up, and fed to his dogs.It was all for worth it for the biggest piece of human garbage that we've had so far... Bruno Fernandes De Souza!! Check us out, every Tuesday. We will continue to bring you the biggest idiots in sports history!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Tuesday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Crime in Sports!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Small Town Murder Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/crimeinsportsInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: [e-mail] on Patreon: patreon.com/crimeinsportsPayPal: paypal.me/crimeinsports See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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If you want to get a hold of us, CrimeAndSports at gmail.com, at CrimeAndSports on Twitter, Facebook.com backslash CrimeAndSports. Please do all that stuff and get on board the Crime and Sports movement. Okay, so today, this is so crazy that I have to tell you ahead of time, just you have to listen every second to this because there's going to be a crazy, you're going to hear several parts and you're going to go, oh, this is the crazy part. It's not the crazy part. There is something even crazier at the end. So we will tell you when it's the crazy part. It's not the crazy part. There is something even crazier at the end.

So we will tell you when it's the crazy part. It gets crazier and crazier and the crazy doesn't stop. When you hear something crazy, don't go, okay, that's what they were talking about. It's not. If we don't tell you that's the crazy part, it's not the crazy part yet. Okay. So our subject today is a Brazilian soccer player. Football as they would call it, but we're going to call it soccer because we live in America and if we say football, people here will be very confused. What possessions does he play?

I've never heard of him. He's not a running back. We're going to talk about Bruno Fernandes Dasdores de Souza. Souza. We're going to go with just Bruno. We are going to call him Bruno. Because I'm not saying that shit

90 times today. Most of the time, it's just Bruno Fernandes de Sousa. That's the normal thing. Dos Dores comes in once in a while. He was born in 1984, two days before Christmas, December 23rd, 1984. Thought he was a Christmas angel. He was. He was an angel in the ghetto, let's say.

It's going to come up a lot that he grew up in the favela. This is the slums of Brazil. This is what they call a slum in Brazil. These neighborhoods, Americans and English people, Australia, whatever, I don't know if you have projects there. If you hear rappers, American rappers, rapping about the projects, this is that on steroids. This is the Fifth Ward of Louisiana.

This is insane. This is Cabrini-Greens of Chicago. This is bad shit. There are military patrolling this. That's how bad it is. It's completely, they basically surround it, and inside of it, it's completely controlled by drug lords, and it's just, it's really, really violent and bad stuff.

And you remind people throughout your life that that's where you fucking came from. And people respect you and they fear you because of it. They understand your upbringing at that point. And his upbringing, not that great. He was raised by his grandmother. Parents not around at all. He doesn't ever remember his parents. He went to school until the third grade.

Oh. So highly educated man um surprise he's not very good at fitting into society it was either this or be a novelist something like that you know something he was thinking about he could have been a blogger actually for probably education so he uh his young life got into soccer very young he He had a coach named Edson Alves, who pretty much was his go-to guy. He said he never remembered seeing his parents ever, same thing. He had a tough environment, but the kids showed talent. So he wanted to help them along.

Seems to be a theme with all these guys, that their childhood was so fucked up. None of them came from father and mother, stable background. Parents went to work nine to five and came home to cook dinner and, and see them to bed. If you are living a life where you are not seeing your child every day or not in their life and helping them grow, guess what? They can end up like Bruno and Bruno was a piece of shit, is a piece of shit because he's not dead. No. And Bruno is very far from dead. Is a piece of shit because he's not dead. No, and Bruno is very far from dead.

Bruno is actually coming into even more relevance as we speak every moment. And we'll get to that. We will get to that. Anyway, he's coming up in soccer. He's a good, he's a goaltender. Very good goaltender. He's a nasty goalkeeper. Apparently so good that by 23 he was the starting goaltender for Flamengo.

Yes. Now, Flamengo, from what I understand, excuse me, international soccer fans, if I don't get, first, we have to say up front, we know jack shit about soccer, okay? I played indoor soccer here, and there were no rules. It was just run. That was it. And kick the ball. And this is when I was 23. So

Americans don't give a fuck about offsides. They don't even know it. We don't know any of this shit. I think international soccer is cool as shit too. It looks really cool. The games look exciting. Like, I want in on that. But I don't know anything about it. I don't get it. And I feel like a fucking dipshit going to

any of this and asking, so... What just happened? what is what's that card mean fuck that who's that guy that's a bad thing to ask you'll like it to be set on fire thrown onto the field these are the yankees right these are the yankees of they're it they're it that's that's what you're striving for the cowboys they're the you know major sports franchise you want to play for them and he was the captain at a young age. Right. The captain of Flamengo as the goalkeeper.

He's making over a million dollars a year. Things are good for a kid from the favela. You know what I mean? A million dollars a year in Brazil. A million pounds. A million pounds. I'm sorry. Still, that's a lot of money down there.

Because it costs nothing to live. Absolutely. There's nothing that you're spending money on. And plus, he's a lot of money down there because it costs nothing to live. Absolutely. There's nothing that you're spending money on. And plus, he's a deity, basically. Everything he's getting is for free. You are the goaltender for the team. I mean, you go out and they basically carry you through the streets. It's not like here where they're looking, trying to get a lawsuit

and trying to get the guy to punch him in the face so they can sue them. They're throwing him on chairs and carrying him around town. These people, yeah. I mean, it's crazy's crazy um so yeah he's the goalie became captain of the team um basically i mean it starts very quickly here um he's married at this point he has two kids um when he meets our uh our unfortunate victim here. He's married. He has two children. Now, this is his second wife he's married to

because he was divorced already. And he's 25 years old. And he's already divorced and then remarried and has two kids. It's already evident that he's a nightmare. He gets at third grade.

He's done with school. Married, divorced. Married again. Two kids, 25. Shit moves quick in Brazil. Shit moves along. And he's already cheating on her. Now, there apparently too this is like these guys just have the run of the mill of the women sure they have footballer parties they call them and that's basically

girls come for you to fucking do whatever do whatever with it's insane so we meet elisa samundo samudio what a beautiful samudioundo. Samudio. What a beautiful name. Samudio. Elisa Samudio. I am so sorry if I butchered these names. I'm guessing it's Eliza. It's Elisa, actually. I've heard it pronounced by Brazilian people as Elisa.

Her mother pronounced it. It's a beautiful name. I saw an interview with her mother. The only word I recognized was Elisa in the entire interview. I have delved deep into Portuguese, guys. Seriously. I've been translating Portuguese articles, watching Portuguese videos. I'm like, I don't know what they're saying, but I'm going to glean something from this facial expression if it kills me.

This episode of Crime is Forced brought to you by Google Translate. Brought to you by Google Translate. Aliza, they met in 2009 at a footballer party. 2009 at a footballer party. She had also formerly claimed to have a thing, a little relationship with the Real Madrid star, Cristiano Ronaldo. I remember this.

Even I know who he is and I don't know shit about soccer. He's a big deal. Yeah, he's a big deal over there. I mean, in Europe. So anyway, she was a wannabe model, basically. She was trying to be a model. She did porn all right she did porn which is a interesting case there i'll be googling that they got together uh she

was known as like his little soccer groupie his girl that went around his jimmy snooker's girl for they all have that's that road nancy he's her nancy he's this road road this yes exactly so so yeah three months into this she's pregnant all right so i mean i feel like to be fair to all parties yeah this is probably what she's going for yeah she's trying to get into modeling she's doing porn she'll throw anything at the wall and see what's absolutely not saying what happened to her or throwing anything at her uterus what happened to her not deserved because of this, but let's be fair. Let's call a spade a spade. Let's call a whore a whore.

Let's call a whore a whore. And she's probably a whore. I'm not saying anything about that. She's in porn. She's a whore. And standards in Brazil might be a lot different. A little bit looser. I'm not sure.

A little looser with it. So I'm not going to. She immediately says she's going to file a fraternity suit um obviously that's the whole point she goes on tabloid uh british tabloid tv brazilian version of extra and outed him about this whole thing said he told her to fuck off basically said that the baby was her problem he wasn't his he didn't want to hear about yeah so she's like okay i'll go on tv and talk about this so at this point he's not very happy about no um he was seen hitting her in public in september of 2009 while you know i

think while pregnant and uh so that but no nothing happened because apparently in brazil you can hit your side woman in the street you know if she's under six months pregnant it's okay i think there's a rule down there. There's some interesting laws. They'll carry you on a chair to go knock the shit out of her. If people in Brazil listen to this, I'm sorry if we're just completely, you know, denigrating the country. American Nimrod pigs.

You have some interesting fucking rules down there that we're going to get to later under the heading of crazy shit, the crazy part. we're going to get to later on under the heading of crazy shit the crazy part so anyway um eliza finally uh goes to the police in october of 09 right uh she's five months pregnant she's telling the cops of these attacks and threats told of an incident where he slapped her and said that uh said that he uh that she uh he didn't know whether to kill her or not. And she said it would be worse to kill her. He'll get in trouble. And he said, not if I dump you somewhere.

They won't know I did it. Jesus. No arrest takes place. Nothing. This is just on, you know. It's just recorded information. It's information. These are his psychotic words.

And something else happens during this time period. It doesn't come out until later. So I'm going to wait until later to say where it is. Okay. So at this point, basically, you know, he told Eliza he was going to take her to discuss payments. And we're going to, you know, we're going to talk about everything like that. Let's talk about what paycheck it's coming out of. He was giving her the Ray Carruth, basically.

And if you'd heard our Ray Carruth episode, he basically told a pregnant woman, like, hey, it's all good. I'm going to take care of it. Don't worry. And then he killed her. Follow me to the bone collector. Exactly. Let's go watch the bone collector. And then I'm going to have Tracy Morgan shoot you from a moving car. This is a little bit different. She has the baby now. She has the baby. And February 10th, 2010, has a little boy named Bruninho. Oh, boy. Little Bruno, okay? Now she is demanding child support. Absolutely.

Shit is not playing around anymore. She's demanding this child support. Told police that this is the thing that happened here. Told police that while she was pregnant, he kidnapped her, was held hostage by him and his associates. He put a gun to her head and said, you don't know who I am. You don't know what I'm capable of. I'm from the favela.

And forced her to take a black market abortion drug. Nice guy. That's so not funny. MVP. And I love it. What a fucking loon. So at this point, you would imagine, this is while she's pregnant,

you would imagine at that point she'd be like, I'm going to stay far away from this guy. And I need to get to a doctor as soon as possible because I just took some black market I don't know what he gave me. That could have been anything. I don't know what I put in my body. I'm going to assume they were not prenatals. Anything you take while there's a

gun to your head is probably not good. You probably should worry about that. I'm going to assume they were not prenatals. Anything you take while there's a gun to your head is probably not good. You probably should worry about that. I'm from the favela. There it is right there. That's him screaming, Cabrini greens. And at that point, she should have said, I don't know what you're capable of. You don't know what I'm capable of. I've done Brazilian porn.

Do you understand the volume of things that have been inside my ass? It's astounding. Not just... You can't hurt me. And then you followed it, sir. You can't hurt me. I'm already dead. I'm already dead.

You can't kill me. My immune system is so strong. I've done Brazilian porn. Oh, my goodness. That's the Trump card. That's beautiful. So, things are going... He's giving her the Trump card. That's beautiful. So, things are going,

he's giving her the sweet talk, you know, we're working out, we're working out. So, four months goes by, we're in June,

June 4th, Elisa disappears all of a sudden. Now, all of a sudden, she's gone. Bruno said, they talked,

and he's doing TV interviews, they're, you know, putting cameras in his face and he's saying, I'm so sad, I heard her father talking, I, you know, putting cameras in his face. And he's saying, I'm so sad. I heard her father talking. I, you know, I hope she shows up.

I'm so upset about this. He's, you know, and everybody, they suspect, everyone suspects him. But they're also like, oh, this poor guy, if in case. But this is funny. He's married with two kids. Yeah, that's the craziest part. And they're interviewing him on TV going, you're a porno star girlfriend that you knocked up on the side and tried to give a black... Hey, where's she at? You know where she's at? He's like, I'm so sad. I hope she turns up. Rather than,

I don't know that person. If that was me and my wife sees me on TV and my two kids are there, she doesn't even find out what I'm talking about. There's no questions. Once again, different standards in Brazil. Brazil has some weird shit going on. This is, you know,

basically at this point, the lead investigator in this case, Edson Moriera, basically called him cold and calculated and said he started planning this murder as soon as the baby was born, and I think probably before that as a matter of fact. Sitting here in this chair, I'm going to assume that that detective is spot on.

He's probably spot on. That's a good detective. He's the only one in that country that has any fucking sense. That's the thing, because you're going to see, basically, all this information comes from a cousin. He has a whole team that he puts together for this. We really have to get into this team. He has a hit squad. It's comprised of his cousins.

He's got two of his cousins. One was a minor at the time jorge rosa he was the one who flipped that's really talker yeah he walked them through the crime scene you don't put a 17 year old in your hit squad he said this is where we strangled her he was pointing spots out it was not good uh he had another cousin uh sergio rosa salas that was another one that they got together. Also, and then the main guy. This guy. This is like a ruthless Kaiser Soze, basically, of contract killers. This is some Brazilian

former military police guy who specializes in contract killing and disappearing of bodies. How shady is that? He's a bad man. This is the worst person we've dealt with. And this guy knows him he had him on let me just call him real quick

Jimmy Snuka wouldn't want to fuck with this guy no nine cops two police dogs not this guy no bad stuff

that one man outnumbers those dogs and police it's not good this man was Santos this guy Marcos

Paracido Santo, known as Bola. That was his nickname. He's the former policeman. Do we know what Bola means? Bola, I don't know. Probably guy who kills women and children and puts them in the country.

He strangles folks. That's, in this case, exactly what ended up happening, basically. Also to Luis Henrique Ferreira Romano, nickname Jimmy. Spaghetti! Spaghetti. No, we've had several translations. One translation says spaghetti, and then we go to noodles, which is noodles.

I love spaghetti. I wanted to just stick it spaghetti, but noodles sounds like a... Yeah, bolo and noodles we have here. Bolo and noodles? This is perfect. That love spaghetti. I wanted to just stick it spaghetti. But noodles sounds like a... Yeah, bolo and noodles we have here. Bolo and noodles? That's terrific. It's bola, but it's not bolo and noodles. Nicknamed spaghetti. So this guy, I love spaghetti. Noodles sounds just like an idiot. Is that the guy that flipped on him? Was noodles the guy that flipped?

I want him to be so bad. Noodles sounds like an idiot. Noodles isn't it. Now noodles is like what you'd hear of an athlete, like an NBA player's entourage from his younger days. He's got to get rid of those friends hanging around him. This is noodles. Noodles is a favela friend from childhood who probably didn't have the greatest of upbringings either.

These two probably shouldn't be around each other. It's not good, the whole deal. Also, too, his ex-wife. His ex-wife is involved in this. So that's why that now makes so much more sense. Of course she's not bitching and screaming at the... She knows where the bitch's body

is. She knows what happened. The ex-wife, not his current wife. This is his ex-wife. Not the one he has two kids with. That's even more psychotic. Yes, he involves this woman. The layers are so deep. It's insane. So he gets a divorce from her.

Why did you divorce her? That's a ride or die bitch. That bitch has your back. Keep that one around. Post-divorce, she will apparently care for the baby of the woman you just had murdered. Because that's what she did. Oh, my God. He handed the baby off to her and said, hey, take care of the baby.

Anybody asks, you say elise is off on a shopping trip in sao paulo because that was his story that he heard she was there so anyway she ends up dropping the kid off uh with a bunch of friends of his who also end up going to jail later who are like in the favela there by his country home basically two cousins night in question the 4th of june 2010 two of his cousins pick her up from her hotel uh pick her up one of the cousins that she knows about another cousin hiding in the back of bruno's range rover with a gun what was the ruse though what did they tell her they told her they were taking her to bruno on the other side of the city and bruno they were going to go look bruno had told her they were doing? They told her they were taking her to Bruno on the other side of the city. And Bruno, they were going to go look. Bruno had told her they were going to look for an apartment with her.

He was going to look for an apartment with her out by his country house, basically, where his family was. Because they've already threatened you and made you take a black market abortion pill. But she's thinking. The logical step is jump in this car and let's go house shopping. Absolutely. But with these men, it's the same thing every time. They play on the side. They get these women pregnant.

They have all this money. You don't want anything to do with them? Fine. Pay your child support and move on. Stop killing people. What the hell is wrong with you? Stop it. Is it worth everything you have to not have to pay $1,000 a month?

But in Brazil, it's not everything. Good Lord. It doesn't come down to everything in Brazil. We'll get there. And he initially says, too, I mean, they question him initially, and he says, you know, he had no knowledge of anything. You know, his cousins, what his cousins said, he's astonished and scared by it. He acts like, oh, my God, these people are crazy.

I'm terrified of my cousin. He's from the favela. Yeah, so basically they get in the car. They're in the Range Rover. Eliza thinks that it's just the one cousin who got her from the hotel. All of a sudden, boom, next cousin pops out of the back with a gun. She freaks out, rightfully so. This has happened to her before with them.

This is deja vu. Oh, yeah, there you are. Kidnapped, held hostage. She's like, oh, here we go again with these guys. And beer. And beer, there you go. Jimmy popping a beer. So she's having a little deja vu.

Unbelievable. Unbelievable. So the cousin and her have a struggle. She tries to jump out of the Range Rover. He pulls her in. She goes for the gun, grabs it. He ends up bashing her in the head with the gun three times, according to the younger cousin.

Wow. Now this comes in big because you bash somebody in the head with a gun three times, they tend to bleed. Yeah, yeah, there's blood everywhere. So this is a big deal later on, bash somebody in the head with a gun three times, they tend to bleed. Yeah, yeah. There's blood everywhere. So this is a big deal later on, this blood in the car, because this is what ties him. Gotcha. It ties him to this whole thing.

She tries to get out of the car. Yeah. They drive seven hours through the night. Okay. This is hundreds of miles through whatever, I don't know what kind of, probably not the best freeway. It's probably not like the I-40 going across America. You're doing 40 down dirt roads. You're doing, I don't know what kind of, probably not the best freeway. It's probably not like the I-40 going across America. You're doing 40 down dirt roads. You're doing, I don't know what the hell they have in Brazil.

There's probably monkeys jumping out of the road. I'm not sure. You've got anacondas chasing you and shit. In case you haven't noticed, we don't know anything about Brazil. No. We've tried. And this story is making me never want to visit. I don't think I want to go to Brazil.

I'm not going to go see the Rio games. They drive her seven hours through the night to Bruno's country home near a place called Belo Horizonte. That is the country home there. Sounds beautiful. Yeah. Basically what they say is they keep her captive for six days, torturing her. Sounds logical. Beating her.

I don't know what the reason of the torture was for. I don't know if they were trying to get her to disavow the child support or anything. She was going to go on her merry way again which is going to go on extra at that point. Maybe they took her to a different house every day and she didn't like it so they just beat her every day. What's the matter with that one? It's got an open floor plan.

It's modern kitchen. Look at those appliances. They're stainless steel. They're stainless steel. I love them. There's tile backsplash. The fuck is wrong with you I love the you can read it from the bottom in a drawer

I just like that I don't know why the garage is too small alright sorry so this is when the cousin walks them through the crime basically

the investigator was Alessandra Wilke she's the investigator who gets walked through this whole thing there's a video with him there with her

so that's next level cause he's just like yeah then we strangled her over there in portuguese so it was translated i assume that's what he said it very casual i assume emotion was the same in portuguese so he looked very and they wrapped her up with a tie that's how they strangled her that's basically they took her from this home over to a contract killer of bola's house yeah basically she said the cousins testified or told her the investigators at this point she told bola i don't want to be beaten anymore and he said okay don't worry you won't be beaten anymore you're gonna die and then strangled her with a necktie this was after just days of torture unbelievable so this is the 10th of june um team name is Bowlin' Noodles.

Bowlin' Noodles. Now, the cousin testifies that Bruno is here. All right. Bruno wasn't there for the pickup, but they brought her to Bruno. Bruno is witnessing this. Bruno witnesses the killing. And then he also says Bruno participated

in the dismemberment process. Jeez. Because now they dismember her, and you know what they do to her? Flatter dogs. A nice, you know, you figure maybe a nice, like a little grave under a tree in a sunset.

They deboned and disemboweled her and turned her into two separate piles and then took the meat and gave it to his Rottweilers. Rottweilers. Unbelievable. And these weren't like pet Rottweilers. No. These were property roaming Rottweilers. Rottweilers. Unbelievable. And these weren't like pet Rottweilers. No.

These were property roaming Rottweilers, as they called them. Yeah, he's a free range. Which, free range ro... Which, if this was an American story, that would be the part people would be pissed about. They'd be like, I don't know if he had any involvement with that girl,

but those dogs should not be left outside like that. That is bad supervision. It rains all the time bad supervision. It rains all the time in Brazil. It rains. Who's feeding them in the country home? And they're just collecting rainwater. That's illegal, by the way. That would be. You can't collect rainwater for drinking. So that would be the thing here. So yeah, the cousin testified that the bones were buried in concrete at Bola's house. They never found the body, so that's a good possibility. The plan was to kill the baby,

apparently. That's what the cousin testified. The plan was to also kill the baby, but they didn't. That's a special kind of fucking evil, man. That's, they decided, so even this band of lunatics had enough whatever in them, morality at least,

to say, maybe we don't need to kill the baby. The baby's five months old. As much of a piece of shit as Ray Carruth was, at least he tried to do it before the baby was born. You know what I mean?

Without meeting the child and being all cold. This was insane. This is fucking crazy. A four-month-old baby and they're going to fucking murder it? Jesus.

So instead, he gives it to his ex-wife, like we said. Ex-wife takes the baby, has it for a few days. Kind and caring. Drops him off in a nearby favela in a

friend's house. Gangster this kid up. Gangster this kid up. Get him some tattoos. Put a red rag in his pocket. So the baby is found two weeks later. Sagan pants and everything. Yeah, it was Sagan pants. The baby tried to stab the officer that found him.

It was very, very... Sagan his pampers. It was bad. But this favela, the house that they found him was right near this country house that they took her to. So it was in Bruno's neighborhood. It's a little suspect. Now, Bruno's obviously under investigation. Now, at this point, too, he's still playing.

He's playing. People are shouting, killer, baby killer, because they hadn't found his baby yet. So they're shouting, baby killer. They're shouting all this shit at him. And he going out there going you know trying to play goalie playing he's out there like you can't get it by shake it off yeah so that's a that's a chant that you know yeah you suck is nothing compared to baby killer that's a bad one he's hearing he's hearing chants that that that vietnam vets heard coming off of planes yeah so finally june 29th comes around and the police at this point find blood in the Range Rover.

Yeah. From the gun thing. Matches the DNA to Aliza and Bruno is fucked at this point. Surprise, surprise. Cousin at this point makes the full confession. Yeah. This is once this is found. You don't have a 17 year old in your hit squad.

Not a good move. Not a good move. Implicates Bruno. Of course. And now it's on. Yeah. This is the Bruno. Of course. And now it's on. Yeah. This is the trial of the century. This was quoted from a press guy down there as Brazilian OJ.

This was the Brazilian OJ trial. That makes sense. The star, the captain of the biggest team, of the biggest sport, in the biggest city. Here it was, man. I mean, they were in Rio. This was it. The circus begins. I saw footage of him being arrested,

coming to the jail, coming to the police station, in the police car and getting out. It looked like New Year's Eve in Times Square. The streets were packed. It looked like a riot was going on. It looked like somebody drew a cartoon of Allah and people went batshit.

That's what it looked like. It was was fucking nuts and it was just a soccer player with a missing girlfriend at this point but yeah so uh once they find the blood in the Range Rover that's the cousin confesses that way that's they know everything that happened uh they strangled her with a necktie that whole thing uh Bruno's arrested, charged with kidnapping, formation of a criminal gang, and murder. Okay, faces, Which all makes sense.

Yeah, he's facing a lot of time, he denies everything, said the last she knew, the last he knew, she said she was going to Sao Paulo, and he hopes that,

and he, at this time, still believed that's where she was. She didn't notice. She didn't check her phone at all. You know,

she didn't check. She hasn't been calling, nothing. No, she didn't get on Yahoo, just check the front page, news stories, nothing. She hasn't called me for any booty calls lately, so I guess that's where she is. Shit, I'm missing apparently. I was shopping, I don't know. Once we get into the case, the cousins start recanting the confessions because they realize what the fuck's going on. Yeah, they just blew it.

They also realize that Bruno's a dangerous guy, I think, and they're going, hmm, he's paying someone 8,000 pounds to kill a woman and a baby, potentially. I don't mean much.

I don't think a cousin is that fucking important. If his son isn't shit to him, what's a cousin? I can give a fuck about my cousin. The defense's main contention, this is beautiful,

the defense's whole case in the beginning was, well, there's no proof she's dead. Where is she? She's shopping. That was the case. He's like, well, that was, you know, she's shopping. She's clearly looking for new shoes. She doesn't give a shit about that baby. Yeah, so they asked the defense attorney in this interview, they're like, well, can you explain, you know, why they found the baby with friends of his near his house without the mother anywhere

to be seen. And he said, well, we haven't asked Bruno about that, so we don't know. Maybe that's a question you should ask. That's like first. That's tops on the list. I would say so. Maybe second, right after, where the fuck is she? Where the fuck is she? So the baby goes with Elisa's mother, this poor woman. They share an interview with her. She's just got this poor baby and there's a dead dog what a saint of a lady Ray Carruth's mother all over

except this kid is not a pudding baby this kid is fine I saw him running around playing soccer which I would think I would hate that fucking sport

put that ball down why do they do that put that ball down why do they gravitate to that stop put the ball down now but they're trying to

get out of the favela I don't know so yeah so they charge Bruno's ex favela. I don't know. So, yeah. So they charge Bruno's ex-wife, Dayane. I don't know. It's Dayane, Diane. I don't know how the hell you want to say it. But Rodriguez.

Dayane Rodriguez was charged, but found not guilty of helping as the jury said she was forced to. The ex-wife? The ex-wife. She was forced to. She was forced. She had no choice. She was scared of him. All right. buy that honestly if she really if she was married to him she probably knew what he was maybe a little aware yeah she knows what just happened here

she's going yeah i'll take the baby sure yeah i can babysit no problem over saturday yeah no i'm open saturday actually i had plans but i can cancel i'm over for the next six months oh my goodness so two and then 2012 uh one of bruno's friends and another ex-girlfriend of his was also convicted of helping. Jesus. Ex-wife, ex-girlfriends. This guy is a Pied Piper of dumb Brazilian women. That's how important soccer is to this fucking country.

Yeah. They're still on his side. Football is huge here. We love football. It's enormous. OJ's ex-girlfriends did not help him. No. There's no way.

They're not even going to his defense. He kicked my ass, too. Exactly. He kicked my ass, too. Can I show you a picture of a black eye? That's what they're doing. Yes, I have lots of them. Unbelievable.

Look at my album. So on the 8th, he's convicted. On the 7th, because down there there apparently the sentencing is very much the leniency is very much based on if you confess or not if you confess apparently that is a huge uh point in your chip in your in your side for for uh mitigating circumstances and a lower sentence so he confesses that he knew about the death from his cousin, but he didn't order the killing at all. And he blamed Luis Henrique Noodles there. All right.

For the whole thing. I got a feeling Noodles is dumb as fuck. This is Noodles' whole deal. Noodles is the master. Noodles couldn't mastermind wiping his ass, I don't think, from the sounds of Noodles. But Noodles is apparently the mastermind here so yeah so he's saying he had nothing to do with it but he's completely aware of it now now i'd like to talk about it because it's going to help me in my case but guess what it was all

noodles it was all noodles he said i wasn't there pulling noodles did it and you know he's like yeah you know sometimes i guess a buddy thinks i'm gonna help my friend out i'll just kidnap that girl torture for six days, and kill her, and then leave the baby with his ex-wife. Because that's what friends do. Right. Jimmy, do me a favor. Would you?

Go fuck yourself. I'm saying it right now. I don't even know the story. That's what friends do. Friends don't just... Even if I... But imagine you just did that on a whim. Like you thought,

I bet he would like it if I did this. That's really a step you're taking. So on March 8th... There's a... I mean... You come to dinner and you go,

I don't know if we're having steak or chicken. I'm just gonna grab a nice bottle of white and assume that that's what he wants. That's more or less

what he did. That's taking a chance. I'm gonna assume that he would like this bitch killed. I'm going to assume he would like this woman fed to his dogs. I'm going to just presumptually feed his pets with his road gash. Oh, God. So March 8, 2013, he's 28 years old at this point. He's convicted of ordering the murder. He gets 22 years in prison.

Now, Brazil has some odd sentencing guidelines. That's crazy. Brazil, no one can serve more than 30 years in prison for a particular crime. For anything. That's a rule in Brazil. For anything. And also, they also have special little loopholes that allow you, after three to four years of good behavior in prison, no matter what your crime, they allow you little concessions like work release.

We'll get to that in a minute. Oh, by the way, guys. Can you imagine if America was like that? Everybody, we haven't got to the crazy shit yet. Remember when I said there's crazy shit? The dogs, the thing. the thing nothing to do with it eight guys military policemen ex-wives girlfriends concrete and bone not even close so hang tight for a minute okay we're getting there this shit is wild can you imagine though any crime anything i mean is anything you're charged with maximum you can do is 30 years yeah anything

up to and including I don't know kidnapping a woman holding her hostage for six days torturing her strangling her and feeding her to fucking dogs anything up to and including that that's as bad as it gets I think that's the worst thing you can do Ted Ted Bundy, at least. Gary Ridgway, Ted Bundy. They threw them in the woods. Jeffrey Dahmer. All these people would serve 30 years in Brazil. At least they didn't feed them to dogs. I feel like that's worse. I feel like I'd rather be a Dahmer victim than have sex with this guy.

Because this guy is going to end up fucking... I really don't want to have sex with him. I'd rather be in a vat of acid than be fed to somebody's fucking dog. That's crazy. I don't want to be fed to somebody's dog. That sounds terrible. Then have your bones buried in concrete. You're in separate locations.

You're wherever the dog shits you out. By a guy named Bola, which makes it worse. That just sounds... Bola noodles are fucking... Sounds like he wears a bandana over his mouth. Like an old-time... Like he's a band... I am Bola.

And that's all he says. You give him money and he hacks people. He's got like a bee tattooed on him somewhere. And at this point, too, they had other proceedings before this. He had already been convicted of the kidnapping and attempted forcible abortion from earlier. That already happened. So he was already sentenced to four years and six months for that. And then he gets an additional 22 years for the uh ordering of the

murder yeah but uh yeah you only get four years and six months for kidnapping a pregnant woman holding her hostage at gunpoint telling you're gonna kill her and shoving an anti-abortion shoving a plan b down her throat not even a plan b that's at least made in the lab this is probably just this bola probably made this noodles made this and like put it in the corner of a ziploc bag and I can't stop because it's insanity wait this is nothing to do with these victims but it's just that this is happening and that is crazy what happens after this is the craziest part this is we're still not there yet guys i mean the judge uh marixa fabian rodriguez he said that this was a meticulously calculated execution he said this guy was twisted

and instilled in his personality a total misunderstanding of values that's putting it lightly bang bang understatement of the year once again we've gone over the crime if you want to call that a misunderstanding misstating of values or whatever that's so yeah three to four years they they get some freedoms um all these eight people total i think were convicted of crimes i don't know if that includes i don't know if that includes the ex-wife or not it might have been seven that were actually convicted uh bruno told the court that his best friend old old Luis Henrique Romayo, a.k.a. Noodles, he had paid someone to kill her and that Bruno didn't know anything about it, but he, quote, accepted it.

He said, hey, he did it, he did it. She's dead, he did it. I've got my closure. That's a very understanding friend. It's the type of guy, if you borrowed his car, if you put a dent in in it he'd be like no problem turn it in with the with the check engine light on it's all right oh don't worry i'll take care of it a little low on wiper fluid i got that it's fine so yeah he claimed he wasn't there at all uh and he said the cousin told him what happened and he was scared and astonished like i said earlier cousin said they tied up her hands and chopped

up her body fed him to the dogs it It was fucking horrible. Oh, my God. So he sits in prison, and then comes March of 2014. At this point, he's been convicted of the ordering of the murder for one year. Two years ago, this month. He's been in custody for approximately four years because 2000, a little less than four years, he's been in custody since this whole thing started.

He's only got 18 years to go. He's got, yeah, well, had 18 years to go. And then, ladies and gentlemen, here's where the crazy shit is occurring. I want to put bells and whistles, crazy shit, crazy shit, because here it is. At this point, he's 28 years old, March of 2014. he's 28 years old, March of 2014. He is allowed to sign a five-year contract to 10 goal for Montes Claros. For Montes Claros of the Capinato Mineiro League.

I know I fucked that up. He's playing soccer. Not yet, but he signs... He's allowed to sign a contract a five-year contract this wasn't like we'll take a flyer on him let's invite him to spring training this is a five-year contract five goddamn years and it's just whenever he can get out to play basically they're real loose with it you show up when you show up type of thing when you got the time it's like charlie sheen in major league you know he's like i don't know if I can make it by then.

Pay phone in the prison. Get a crazy haircut and show up whenever you got the chance. Basically, this is one of the conditions. We were saying the three to four years, if you have good behavior in a Brazilian jail, you can apply to do things like work release, including playing goddamn professional big league soccer and making millions of fucking dollars.

Unbelievable. He's allowed to sign this. Under the terms of something like this, he would be accompanied by a police escort at all times. I don't know if that's, like, on the field. I don't know if they stand, like, on either sides of the goal in case he makes a run for it. I don't know how the fuck that works,

but he always has a police escort. He's tapped for the world cup team at this point because this is who we want representing the nation yeah this is our finest woman murderer and dog feeder have him trot out there to sing our national anthem the finest rottweiler breeding man in the entire they're strong uh villier uh mosella mosella i'm so sorry brazil uh he is the montes claros president uh his quote about this because this was his decision to do it is italian by the way this man is a fucking asshole i'm talking about you i'm italian italian i'm not brazilian some sort this is i don't think portuguese it's all fucking rooted in spanish it's not

i might be i don't know i don't know anything go on so his quote here is it's all about giving an opportunity to a player to a human for him it's a chance to return to play to the club he is an athlete who can strengthen the team and it's a way to invest in the social side jesus christ you want to invest in the social side go find some shithead kid in the favela who hasn't killed a fucking woman you fed her to a dog yet and to a woman's mom he's a fucking murderer but you know jesus christ hey you know what this guy tends a hell of a goal let me tell you buddy holy shit ray rice still hasn't played in the NFL, guys. He hasn't gotten a sniff. No. This guy's got a five-year deal. Wow. I'm just going to say wow. He's got a five-year

deal. Ray Rice has a fucking hell of a right hook. And that's it. On a complete side note, the person I feel worse, just the worst for in this whole scenario, it's not Elisa. It's not even Elisa's mother. It's not little Bruninho. You know who it is? It's some guy that shares the name Bruno Fernandez de Souza with him and has a fucking LinkedIn profile of this poor bastard standing there smiling.

He is the sales administration and customer service senior manager at Ajinomoto, Brazil. Of all the shit luck. And if you Google search this guy, you will come up with him. This poor son of a bitch. Everything was going, he's a senior manager. Everything's going fine. Then he's like, what's his, who did, oh, fuck.

Shit. Come on, man. I've got 11 names. how does he have all of them he's innocent he didn't do it i like that guy oh my god so he says uh we got a quote from bruno at this point um you do a little in their own words all right in their own words are you ready this This is Bruno. This is Bruno from prison here. I was silent. And who was the... No, no, no. That'll come later. This is a quote.

I was silent during the alleged crime. I saw it happen and just let it happen. Nothing I say will bring Elisa back. But if I knew where the body was, I would indicate. Thanks, champ. Thanks, buddy. You're a saint. That is amazing. Says that he's

going to fight Eliza's mother for custody of Bruninho. Holy Christ. Plans on fighting for custody of Bruninho. He has not seen his own kids in two years since he's been in prison. He said, I will fight for him for his guard. I'll bring him to my side.

But that's the one he's choosing. That's the one he's going to go after. I'll bring him to my side. Something tells's the one he's choosing. That's the one he's going to go after. I'll bring him to my side. Something tells me that's the wrong side he needs to be at. Bad, and also too, this is translator

from Portuguese, so these are my, I don't know if it's anonymous. It's loose, right. It's loose, but that's what he's, I'll bring him to my side. Yeah.

That's scary enough. You know what I mean? I don't want to know exactly what he meant. That's plenty. He's, he's, he's, you know, he says he could be in playing shape in three to four months. So he lost some weight originally, but now he's getting back in shape. You know, he doesn't have the muscle mass he used to, but three, four months of training, he's fucking ready to get in the goal. Boy, he's ready to go. I can't imagine if the, if the, if

they talk about the shit food in our prison system. I can't imagine their system has much better food. Another quote from him. Here we go. Quote from Bruno. By wanting to preserve friendship with Luis Henrique Noodles, I did not tell the truth to police. I am firm in what I say. I have not commanded to kill Elisa. In the investigation, there is no proof.

It's so fun. didn't uh he's firm he's firm it was noodles the whole time it sounds like he's like a eight-year-old that got caught for breaking a window he's like it was my friend noodles noodles like there is no one named noodles in this neighborhood no he is he moved just moved here from Utah. It's Noodles. He goes to another school. He goes to another school. He didn't do it. You don't know him. His name is Noodles, I promise.

So in April of 2013, this is right around when he signs, a month after he, this is right after he gets convicted. Yeah. He gets in trouble for threatening inmates and another guard after they talked about his wife. This is the punishment for this, which I find amusing. No visits and no sunbathing for 30 days, mister. That's it.

No sunbathing. I'm picturing them all out there tanned with those reflective things. With those fucking goggles on his eyes. I did a little more research. Apparently sunbathing is what they call wreck time in the yard. That's when they play soccer and they fucking work out outside you don't get to play outside

it's technically known as sunbathing which is amazing and fucking hilarious so it's like i could just picture a bunch of brazilian guys like no i need my shine again i'm sorry i'm terrible with accents i'm not gonna accent anything here um this is amazing uh he had a suicide attempt in prison why the hell not um and he said and we'll get to what he said about that in a little bit here uh uh yeah he uh got really into religion at this point super into evangelical christianity him and chad curtis so goddamn guilty i want him and chad Chad Curtis to hang out so bad. Because... I want Bola to meet Chad Curtis really bad. Yeah, that's the thing.

Strangling with a Donald Trump. That would be phenomenal. So yeah, he was in solitary and attempted suicide. Got heavy into Christianity. He really wants to return and play. He says... Another quote from him. I will return and play he says another quote from him I will return to play

I really want to play ball again leave this place unfortunately wanting isn't power but I believe in the miracle of God you better hope there is no miracle of God because if there is the miracle will be

if there was no miracle of god because if there is the miracle is coming for you how the miracle that that that if there was a miracle of god it would be how a soccer ball could be crammed up his ass as he tries to block it because that would be deflated and then it inflates inside of this fucking idiot um this is another one that i love another quote from him for this is the ego here this is the ego on this guy is amazing. He's just like, I don't know. People just kill women for me. He says, for all I did for Flamengo, his former team,

and all Flamengo has done for me, I feel like I'm an idol of the club. I was the first player that the children would come up and embrace. This is after he's convicted. He's an idol of the club? The first one the kids would embrace.

Are you out of your fucking mind? Holy shit. An idol to the club? What the? You're an idol to like, I don't know. To murderers everywhere. To serial killers that are really like on the up. Yeah.

On the upswing. He's going to win the love of his son. He's also suing, I believe, Flamengo, saying that they owe him a million pounds in rights and pay. And it's like, because they canceled his contract when he was convicted for beating a woman into a dog. So he's trying to sue them, because apparently he's got bills,

he's got child support of his own kids, of Bruno. Yeah. Bruninho fucking Junior there. He's got bills stacking up. He's saying he's not making any dough. The bills are piling up. I got no money. He weeds the prison yard.

That's what he does. In his cell, this is another thing, too. In his cell, he has a concrete bed a mattress a blanket a pillow and a tv said he likes to watch his soccer games and uh he likes to answer letters fan letters he gets fan letters first of all um hey great save by the way my dogs are hungry do they sell fucking purina in brazil yes down there fucking jesus uh Ingrid, his wife, apparently she visits every Saturday. And once a month, hey, they get a conjugal visit together. That is a delusional bitch, man.

And they get to spend the night together. Holy shit. He gets to have sex with his wife. I want a chick like her. My wife fucking hates me already. I haven't even killed anybody yet. You didn't kill a woman that you were banging on the side that she, a porn star

that went to extra, told on you, then you kidnapped her, forced a black market abortion pill down her throat, had the baby, kidnapped her again, had her killed, fed to dogs, involved your ex-wife in the plot, and another girlfriend you were fucking.

This all comes out and then she comes and fucks him once a month and another girlfriend you're fucking. This all comes out. Holy shit. And then she comes and fucks him once a month and they spend the night together. Isn't that sweet? My wife wouldn't fuck me after I fucked a Brazilian porn star. No.

Forget all the rest of the shit. You bring home a nice paycheck and she won't fuck you. This guy's in the can. He weeds the fucking yard for a living. Unbelievable. Trying to get in soccer shape. I wash her car

and I don't get a blowjob. Forget this. That's how hard it is to latch on to someone down there. I'm going to fucking Google her. I want her number so bad. She is the shit. My wife's Spanish

and she fucking hates me. This is possibly my favorite thing in the world here. The defense says that Bruno didn't commit the crime crime he was trusting of a friend he deserves to re-engage the keeper profession what is it a fucking noble the keeper perfect what i i know i'm i'm very just i i don't even know flabbergasted with this but the things these

people say are just like the the ball's on you. Your balls are so big, it's choking me. I can't even get words out. Fucking, the most important man in America is Obama. And if he fucking murdered, or had somebody murdered, they're not saying

pulling him out of prison, he must embrace the presidential position. He really deserves to get back to prison. He must embrace the presidential position. He really deserves to get back to it. He fucking fed some woman to some dogs. He doesn't even say

he deserves to resume his life, to try to raise his kids and his family. He says he deserves to, you know, re-engage to keep her profession. To keep her profession. What the fuck?

Dude, I like sports a lot. Get the fucking shit out of your ass, man. Come on. Get the shit out of your ass. I like sports a lot. I your fucking shit out of your ass, man. Come on. Get your head out of your ass. I like sports a lot. I really like it. I do.

Holy shit. I'm really into sports, but not that much. So let me... We're going to play a little game at this point. And we are going to also bring in our music for In Their Own Words, which you might recognize from Lawrence Phillips' Letters from Prison. They were a big hit. Episode 2, if you want to check that out,

because that was really one of the funnier things we've ever done, in my opinion. So let's do this. This is an interview with Bruno in prison. Recent interview. And Jimmy is going to be the interviewer, and I am going to be Bruno. I love this so much. Because he's such a wonderful man.

Okay, let's begin. Go ahead, Jim. All right. You believe you can return to football, even serving time in a closed system? My goal is to serve time with dignity. I want to get out of jail and come out on top if you happen to go out to play.

Some people still trust me. Who else encourages me to return to the pitches? My wife, Ingrid? I want to play for her. Noble. Noble gentleman. That's me. That's not him.

That's me. I'm trying so hard to keep it together. Next question. What about the signing of the contract with Montes Carlos? I thank God and the president of Montes Carlos for this opportunity. I think he might be God in this guy's case, let's just say. But let's stop. He might as well be God.

Back to him. But for this opportunity, I was very moved. I wish my wife was beside me on the day I signed the contract. When she came to visit me, we hugged and cried enough. It's the beginning of a lifetime. signed the contract. When she came to visit me, we hugged and cried enough. It's the beginning of a lifetime. How did the interviewer not laugh at this? This is fucking insanity. Yeah, it gets worse. Besides getting the judicial release to play and train under escort, do you think you'll be able to get transferred to Montes Claros? I believe I will play again.

I really want to play again. Unfortunately, wanting is not power. But I believe in the miracle of God. I hope he can break the hearts of those who will judge me. Not only does he want the hearts broken of those who... I want a crush. I want the fucking... I want the blood to run down the fist of the God

that strangles their heart. How dare these people judge me for killing a woman and feeding them to my dogs. Damn it. What assholes. Just fuck. What scene can you imagine your possible return to football? I dream to play in the new mini-era. Hear the crowd shouting my name.

Not hurt to dream. It depends on the legal part now. To err is human. Remain error is stupid. I was wrong and I'm paying dearly for my mistake. I'm sorry, but I did not stop chasing. I want to pay for my mistake and get back on top. It is time to start. There are two ways. If you look in the prison system as a punishment, out of here you'll end up worse than when you entered. If you see it as a learning experience, you do better. I see it that way. I have an uncle who is a pastor.

With success, I walked away from God. But inside, I reconciled myself to God. This year I'll be baptized. I will get out of prison a better person. I can tell you somebody who wishes he would have stopped chasing. That poor Aliza. Fucking fucking guy and it goes on this is this is bruno fernandez de saza he's a fucking loon and guess what this whole process is going on in court he is fighting to get transferred so he can play at montes claros there's a there's a wrangling over this. The government's trying to say,

hey, why should you get a police escort? Right. Transferring. First they denied him because they said the prison there was too overcrowded. He couldn't come. And now they're saying that, you know, why should you get a police escort

and all that's going to be expensive to the state. Another thing, too, this Montes Claros team is broke. They are, they have, they're like a shit draw. Right. They're like the Kansas City Royals. They won, they have, they're like a shit draw. Right. They're like the Kansas City Royals.

They won the World Series. Right. They're like a shit draw. They're like the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah, they're a shit drawing team and they are subsidized

heavily by the local government. Wow. So the citizens are like, why the fuck is my tax money paying some murdering dog feeding asshole Yeah. who's in prison?

Right. What the fuck is going on? So, this is really getting to be a hot button political issue down there too. So stay tuned. We will keep you updated on the happenings and new occurrences from this insane case and whether this guy actually gets on the field or not.

He's got a contract in place ready to go. There are American criminals that thrive in prison begging for somebody like this to come into the system so they can shank them, so they can knife them and have some sort of recognizability in prison as that's the guy that fucked up so and so.

These guys get laid once a month though. I really think that takes a lot of it out of it possibly where they're like, you know, I'd like to kill Johnny but I don't know. My legs aren't under me right now. I had my wife here three days ago. I'm a little winded. I got it out of me.

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