Crime Junkie - MURDERED: Ada Haradine

Episode Date: October 4, 2024

Our card this season is Ada Haradine, the 3 of Clubs from Indiana."The Deck Investigates" returns with Season 2, delving deep into the perplexing case of Ada Haradine, a 40-year-old mother of two who ...vanished without a trace from her Elkhart, Indiana home on a seemingly ordinary Wednesday afternoon in May 1985. Over 14 gripping episodes, we'll meticulously reconstruct the events leading up to Ada's disappearance, explore the initial efforts to find her and the myriad of suspects and theories that emerged in the wake of her vanishing. The investigation takes a dramatic turn when Ada's remains are discovered three years later in a wooded area 12 miles from her home, transforming a missing persons case into a homicide investigation. As law enforcement scrambles to make sense of new evidence, the focus shifts to surprising potential suspects, including Ada's neighbor. Through exclusive interviews with family members, law enforcement, and key witnesses, "The Deck Investigates" grapples with questions about the challenges of pursuing justice decades after a crime. Join us as we peel back the layers of this baffling cold case, reexamine old leads, and shine a light on overlooked details in the quest to finally answer the question: Who killed Ada Haradine, and why? Listen and follow to Season 2 of The Deck Investigates on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts!   View source material and photos for this episode at: thedeckpodcast.com/somethings-wrong Find more of The Deck Investigates on social media.Instagram: @thedeckpodcast | @audiochuckTwitter: @thedeckpodcast_ | @audiochuckFacebook: /TheDeckPodcast | /audiochuckllc The Deck Investigates is hosted by Ashley Flowers. Instagram: @ashleyflowersTikTok: @ashleyflowerscrimejunkieTwitter: @Ash_FlowersFacebook: /AshleyFlowers.AF Text Ashley at (317) 733-7485 to share your thoughts about the case, discuss all things true crime, get behind the scenes updates, and more!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, Crime Junkies, Britt here, and happy Friday. You're probably a little surprised to hear from me today. Well, I'm here because I have the absolute honor of sharing some very exciting news with you all. As you guys know, my girl Ashley is a busy gal, and as usual, she's been working on something special this past year, a special case, one that she lived and breathed with our reporter Nina for months, tracking down every piece of information they could get their hands on. And trust me, there's a lot.
Starting point is 00:00:32 But they're finally ready to tell you what they found in the newest season of The Duck Investigates. In season two, Ashley tells us all about what they uncovered in their deep dive investigation into the case of Ada Haradine, the three of clubs from Indiana. In May of 1985, 40-year-old Ada was at her home in Elkhart, Indiana, when she mysteriously disappeared in the middle of the day. Her disappearance shook the small rural town for years as they extensively searched for
Starting point is 00:01:00 any trail back to Ada, until 1998 when their search came to an end. Over 10 miles away from her home, Ada's remains were discovered in a densely wooded area, which only led to more questions. Who killed Ada Herodine? And how did someone take her in the middle of the day with no one seeing a single thing? For years, investigators were stumped, and unfortunately, Ada's case went cold. But Ashley and Nina are ready to turn up the heat, and I know our crime junkies are too. Now of course, as a perk of being a BFF, I've already gotten the chance to binge the entire season and, you guys, when I tell you my head is spinning, I mean, my head is spinning like a top. Just like last season,
Starting point is 00:01:46 there are a string of people of interest that when you look at each of them individually, you think, they gotta be the guy, right? But then the more you hear about this case, the more you realize you can't be certain of anything. I seriously can't wait for you all to hear this season, and we're giving our Crime Junkies the first full episode right here, right now. But don't worry, there's more. The next three episodes are out and waiting for you over on the Deck Investigates feed right now. And make sure you follow the show so you don't miss new episodes each week.
Starting point is 00:02:20 So without further ado, this is the story of Ada Haradine. Last season when we covered the case of Darlene Hulls, there was a lot I had to leave out. In almost 40 years of case documents, you can't include every detail, even in an 18 episode series. Most are red herrings anyway. But there was one tip that I kept coming back to, mostly because it seemed so fantastical it couldn't be true.
Starting point is 00:02:53 But it was interesting. I always referred to this tip as the Sheila Letters. In a series of letters to law enforcement, a local citizen named Sheila proposed a theory that Darlene's case was connected to the deaths of other women in the area around the same time. Sheila didn't have insight into the cases, she was just working off newspapers, but she said there was a pattern.
Starting point is 00:03:18 The women's initials. All the women had the last initial H, and the first initials were descending through the alphabet, like A-H, B-H, C-H, D-H, and so on. Now she didn't even have all the letters. She couldn't find a C-H. So there weren't enough data points to make the argument compelling. Not for police back then,
Starting point is 00:03:39 because there's no record of them talking to her, and it didn't really make sense for us to chase that lead early on when we had so many more viable ones that needed work. But we did put out feelers. We tried unsuccessfully getting in touch with Sheila and I began looking at the other cases she pointed to. The AH case that happened almost a year
Starting point is 00:04:01 after Darlene was killed. This woman, Ada Heredine, was a stay-at-home mother and wife taken in the middle of the day from her home in Elkhart, Indiana, just an hour away from Darlene. Ada's case is still unsolved. That's pretty much all you'll get from archived newspaper reports. So if I wanted to know more,
Starting point is 00:04:23 we were gonna have to go digging ourselves. And before I even got the chance, guess who I got an email from? Ashley, I hope this email finds you well. I'm a listener of Crime Junkie, The Deck, and The Deck Investigates, as well as other audio truck productions. I'm not sure where to start on this email,
Starting point is 00:04:43 so I will dive in. I'm one of the granddaughters of Ada, so I will dive in. I'm one of the granddaughters of Ada Heredine. My dad is her firstborn son. She is the three of clubs on the third edition of Cold Case Cards in Indiana. Ada was taken from her house in Elkhart, Indiana on May 8, 1985. She was last seen at 3 p.m. My uncle, her second son, got off the bus at 3 20. He did not see her that afternoon and decided to go to the neighbors since she was at home. She was never seen again and was discovered just over three years
Starting point is 00:05:14 later on May 12th 1988 in Cass County by mushroom hunters. We don't know much more about her case although over the years my dad has begun to talk about it more. My sisters and I are big years, my dad has begun to talk about it more. My sisters and I are big fans, and when I was listening to the DECK Investigates, I texted them about how similar the Darlene Hulls case was to Ada's. My youngest sister then reminded me that Darlene's daughter, Kristen, had reached out to her a few years ago to see if there was any connection to the two cases as well. The area where Ada's body was found is actually on the way to and from my house in Indianapolis,
Starting point is 00:05:49 in my parents' house in Michigan. Every time we pass that area, she is all I can think about. I know you must get tons of messages and I do want to thank you and applaud you for all that you do. Bringing light to these cases can really do wonders and I hope that all of these cases can get some answers. I would love to see your case highlighted, and I know my dad and uncle would love to get answers.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I would be more than happy to talk to or to be a point of contact. I know my youngest sister would be too. It saddens us all that we never were able to meet her. My mom only met her once when her and my dad were dating at Ball State. From all of the stories, she seemed like a kind soul and a great mother.
Starting point is 00:06:29 Thanks for taking the time to read this. Best, McKenna Herodine Shoots. That's it, I was in. And I'm gonna do the one thing you're not supposed to do in storytelling. I'm gonna give you the answer to the question that's been posed right at the top. I don't think Darlene's case and Ada's case are connected,
Starting point is 00:06:49 but what we, me and my reporter Nina, uncovered to come to that conclusion is a story in its own right. A bewildering maze of suspects and theories. Multiple law enforcement agencies have twisted and turned through this labyrinth, trying to make sense of something that makes absolutely no sense. The more I learned, the more I realized that Season 2 of The Deck Investigates was unfolding
Starting point is 00:07:15 right before my eyes. And you'll have a front row seat as we retrace the steps of an investigation that spans decades, confront assumptions that may not hold up under scrutiny, and try to unravel a mystery that has haunted a family for generations. This is the story of Ada Haradine, the three of clubs from Indiana. I'm Ashley Flowers, and this is Season 2 of the Deck Investigates. This is episode one, Something's Wrong. Forty-year-old Ada Heredine was a quiet woman who lived on a quiet street in a quiet neighborhood,
Starting point is 00:08:03 a long way from the prisoner of war camp she was born in back in Germany. Her parents, the Vanlews, immigrated to the specific corner of the world where I grew up, along the Michigan-Indiana border, affectionately known by locals as Michiana. As a young woman, Ada found work for a wealthy family at their lodge, and it was that wealthy family son, Carl Edwin Heredine Jr., known as Ed, who gave Ada her upper class quiet life. Make no mistake though, Ada was no wilting flower. She was strong and smart, and though she didn't work outside of the home,
Starting point is 00:08:39 that was only because she had always been too busy working in it. Between their 19-year-old son away at college and their nine-year-old in elementary school, Ada had been a full-time mother and homemaker pretty much every day of their 20 years of marriage. She ran the household finances and operations, and what little time wasn't occupied by her kids she filled with church or home renovation projects,
Starting point is 00:09:01 yard work, and social activities. She actually ticked all those boxes one late spring day in 1985, the last day that she was ever seen alive. Ada wasn't even supposed to be at her home in Elkhart on May 8th, 1985. She initially had plans to visit a friend in Fort Wayne, Indiana, about an hour and a half away,
Starting point is 00:09:24 but she rescheduled the trip when she found out her younger son's school was holding a Mother's Day Mass. She didn't want Jeff to be the only one without his mom there. So when that morning started, she was still in bed as Ed left early to hit the gym before work. After getting up herself and getting ready, she and their son Jeff headed off
Starting point is 00:09:40 to the Mother's Day service. It was uneventful, routine, if you will, in the way that most mass services are. After that, Jeff went off to class. And if Ada made any stops on her way home, they couldn't have taken long, because she was at the house by 11 when her niece Susan arrived to go to a luncheon with her.
Starting point is 00:09:58 The two chatted for a little bit until Ada's friend Judy picked them up at around 1130 to take them to the local YMCA. The whole time, Susan thought Ada seemed to be in a good mood, like usual. All the ladies were talking about getting things ready for summer and opening up the houses. And one lady was saying how she couldn't get her storm shutter
Starting point is 00:10:20 or wind screens or whatever it is that you put on for winter. She couldn't get them off, and her husband is gone, and she didn't know how to do it. And Ada thought that was so funny that she was this helpless woman shutter or wind screens or whatever it is that you put on for winter. She couldn't get them off and her husband is gone and, you know, she didn't know how to do it. And Ada thought that was so funny that she was just helpless woman because Ada was, Ada could take care of herself. She was the cool aunt. Judy dropped them back at the house by 1 30 and Susan and Ada settled
Starting point is 00:10:39 into chat a little more. They had lots of catching up to do because Susan actually lived in Arizona at the time. She'd gone off to college there and now that she had graduated she had come into town interviewing for some jobs hoping that she and her husband could relocate back to the area. The reason Ada and I were so close is because no matter where we lived and they spending my summers here working for my grandparents and running the resort and Ada did the same thing. She was there all summer,
Starting point is 00:11:05 and she was kind of the surrogate, big sister, young aunt that was a friend and an aunt. We all had dinner together in my grandparents' kitchen. We sat around the big table. We all worked together. We all played together. So the women were seated in the family room, enjoying their time together,
Starting point is 00:11:24 when suddenly they heard a noise coming from near the entryway. Like a thud. Like if you ran into the wall. That's what it sounded like to me. It just sounded like a thud to me. The noise didn't scare them, per se, but it made them curious. No one else was supposed to be home, and the Herodines didn't have any pets.
Starting point is 00:11:45 So they looked around a bit, even checked outside near the front door. But they didn't see anything that might've caused the sound. By 2.05, Susan had to leave for a job interview at a local bank. Ada, meanwhile, had plans of her own. Susan remembers her saying that she was gonna change
Starting point is 00:12:02 and do some yard work. But she was still wearing the dressy outfit she'd worn to lunch, a rose-colored skirt and a short-sleeved sweater when Susan left. She walked out with me and walked to the mailbox at the end of the driveway. And we had been talking about, because it was May, we were getting excited for summer. They had just bought a ski boat. So she opened the mailbox and there was a ski magazine that had come as I'm pulling out,
Starting point is 00:12:27 backing out of the driveway. She holds up the ski magazine like, you know, summer's coming. Left alone, it's assumed that Ada went back inside and changed out of her clothes and into something she could do yard work in. The rose colored skirt and short sleeve sweater she'd been wearing when Susan left were found neatly put away,
Starting point is 00:12:46 and the shower and sink in the bathroom off her and Ed's bedroom were wet, as if she had washed up. Her family would also find that water-skiing magazine that Ada had grabbed from the mailbox on a little accent table near the living room. One of the next-door neighbors, 22-year-old Steve Dye, saw Ada outside sometime between two and three doing yard work in a t-shirt and either shorts or jeans. He couldn't remember which. He hadn't seen anything suspicious. The only unfamiliar car he remembered in the Herodines driveway was a blue Lincoln,
Starting point is 00:13:18 which turned out to be what Susan had been driving. Another man from the neighborhood named Hal Combs was out for his usual walk when he saw Ada in her driveway deep in conversation with a man that he didn't recognize. An unfamiliar car, presumably the man's, was parked toward the back of her driveway. Now he said normally Ada would throw a friendly wave or hello Hal's way, but this time she was so focused
Starting point is 00:13:41 on the chat that she didn't even acknowledge him, which surprised him. But this time she was so focused on the chat that she didn't even acknowledge him, which surprised him. Still, there was nothing alarming about the encounter he witnessed. The Herodines had been doing some remodeling and various workers had been in and out, so at the time Hal figured the man was just another contractor. The timing of Hal's sighting did change from his first statement to his second, but his final answer was that he saw Ada at 310 p.m.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But by the time Jeff's school bus pulled up to the house 10 minutes later, Ada was gone. The school bus would drop me off literally right in front of the house. I'd get home from school, she was just always there. It was like clockwork at our house. As Jeff went to let himself in, he noticed that their front door was ajar. Although the screen door in front of it was closed and locked, blocking his access to the house.
Starting point is 00:14:40 He saw a note from Ada on the door, but it wasn't for him. She had written it earlier that day to the sprinkler repairman, letting him know about an issue their system was having. The garage door was also locked, and for a minute, Jeff wondered if he'd be stuck outside. But there was one more door he could try. He made his way around to the back of the house, where a rake and gardening tool were leaning against the wall near a bay window.
Starting point is 00:15:03 I'm sure Jeff didn't even make note of it. He was probably too focused on getting inside. And luckily, he found that the back screen door was unlocked. Once inside, he called out for his mom. But the house was quiet and empty. Now, Ada wasn't the kind of mom to just leave things to chance. On the rare occasion she planned to be gone when Jeff got home, she would arrange for someone to be there.
Starting point is 00:15:29 So Jeff was confused, but not necessarily worried. Her orange Chevy Citation was right there parked in the driveway, so how far could she possibly have gone? Jeff decided to have a snack, change out of his school clothes, and then he settled in to do what kids in the 80s did after school. I think I remember turning the TV on and watching some cartoons at the time, probably some Scooby-Doo or something, and then I remember my dad calling.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Ed was calling from the office. He'd actually been calling Ada sporadically all day to try and firm up plans for the family to go to a local baseball game later that night. And he knew Ada was often out and about during the day, running errands, seeing friends, so it wasn't weird that he hadn't gotten ahold of her earlier. But late afternoons were for Jeff. I recall us having a quick conversation and then him maybe expressing some concern about mom not being there, but nothing really even still registered as being unusual or alarming to me. Ed, however, did register it as unusual, especially when he got home from work at around 515 and Ada
Starting point is 00:16:36 was still MIA. By that point, though, Jeff wasn't alone. Susan had actually returned from her interview planning to go to that baseball game Ed had been trying to call Ada about all day. So Ed asked if she knew where Ada was. But Susan was just as in the dark as everyone else. She had assumed Ada would be here just like everyone else. And Susan says she remembers Ed's immediate concern. He's like, well, something's wrong
Starting point is 00:17:03 because she would be home. She's never not home when Jeff gets home. Ed waited around for a little bit, hoping that she would come home. But when she didn't, he decided it was time to take the search outside of the house. Ed and Susan and even Jeff started checking in with their neighbors and calling around to friends and relatives, hoping someone knew where Ada was. Somebody in the family asked me to start, you know, going to check down at some friend's house. Their next door neighbor, Steve's mom, Ray Dye, called the local hospital to make sure Ada wasn't there, and she helped them search the house again. And when Steve got home that evening,
Starting point is 00:17:40 he was able to help fill them in on a few blanks, telling them about seeing Ada first in her dressy clothes sometime in the late morning, and then again in the afternoon, changed into her clothes to do yard work. And he said he didn't notice anything out of the ordinary when he left to go to a friend's place at around 4.45. As the minutes ticked by, Ed's fear just grew, and he realized that he couldn't handle this alone. So he called his parents, and he realized that he couldn't handle this alone. So he called his parents, and he decided to bring in the big guns. His sister Betty's husband, a guy named Larry Saarhat.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Because you see, Larry was a retired FBI agent. He would know how they should handle this. Now Larry passed away in 2018, but his wife Betty remembers getting that call, or the message, rather. They had to call Ed back, and when they learned that Ada was gone, Larry did know what to do. Call the police. By this time, daylight had faded, and the gravity of the situation had begun to sink
Starting point is 00:18:38 in for all of them. They knew that the only way Ada wouldn't have been home was if someone was keeping her from it. So at 8.15, they made a call to Elkhart PD. They knew that the only way Ada wouldn't have been home was if someone was keeping her from it. So at 8.15, they made a call to Elkhart PD. Susan says they wondered if they were going to get a ransom demand. After all, the hair dynes were well off and everyone knew Ed owned a business, Carlton Manufacturing, which specialized in upholstered furniture.
Starting point is 00:19:01 In Elkhart, there's a lot of businessmen, a lot of entrepreneurs, and he was connected with that whole circle of successful businessmen. A ransom demand actually seemed like one of the better possible outcomes. I mean, at least it would mean Ada was still alive. So as police began their investigation, her loved ones hoped and prayed for a call. But when the phone rang, it wasn't Ada or an abductor with instructions on how to secure her return. When Ed answered, there was only silence on the other end. Ed repeated hellos over and over, but the caller didn't say a word. Until eventually, Ed hung up on them.
Starting point is 00:19:47 When the nothing came in that night about a phone call or a ransom or an accident or anything like that, then I think people were like, this is bad. You can listen to episode 2, No One Saw a Thing, right now, wherever you get your podcasts.

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