Dark History - 148: Top 3 Ancient Torture Techniques: Forgotten Punishments of the Past

Episode Date: October 23, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I've been watching a lot of scary movies because it's Halloween. You get it. Tis a season. God, which one did I watch recently that was really scary? It doesn't matter. But you know what I did put on? I put on Saw. Do you remember Saw based on a true story? Yeah, I remember thinking Jigsaw was so creepy. And now when I watch, he's kind of cute on his little tricycle. I knew tricycle would be so cute. You know, a couple of years ago, we did a dark history on ancient torture. What's the correlation here? Well, that alone was like way scarier than Saw.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I went back and I looked into my notes for that episode and like, honestly, we only had so much time, so we didn't get to cover a lot. And it's like, you know, there are a ton of other torture techniques that we didn't even get into. So I was like, let's do it baby. You know, let's do it. you know let's do it let's continue the conversation
Starting point is 00:00:47 about ancient torture because these techniques they kept me up at night the torture techniques are creative to say the least here we are once again for the dark history of ancient torture part two. Hi friends, how are you today? My name is Bailey Sarian and I'd like to welcome you to my podcast, Dark History. Here we believe history does not have to be boring. I mean it might be tragic, sometimes it's happy, but either way it's our dark history. So before we get into it, don't forget to like and subscribe
Starting point is 00:01:31 and let me know what you think. I love hearing from you in the comment section and at the end of the episode, usually we like read some comments, you know, so leave a comment, is what I'm saying. Now let's get into it. The other day I heard someone say the phrase, death by a thousand cuts.
Starting point is 00:01:46 And I've heard that phrase before, but I thought it, I didn't really know what it meant. You know, it was just like a phrase, right? Well, turns out it was actually a real thing. And no, it's not a bunch of paper cuts, which I assume that's what it was. Cause when you think about paper cuts hurt really bad, right? They're spicy.
Starting point is 00:02:05 But death by a thousand cuts was actually tied to an ancient torture practice called flaying. Now flaying is the act of removing someone's skin. We mentioned flaying in our first ancient torture episode. And I'm sure in a few murder mystery makeup episodes, if you watch, you know, there's some flaying involved. But the torture method is actually called Ling-chir. And even though Ling-chir is tied to flaying,
Starting point is 00:02:33 it's actually way worse. Flaying was all about slowly removing someone's skin, which sounds pretty awful. I'm sure we all can agree. Ling-chir was all about torturing someone by hacking off, oh, really quick disclaimer, it's kind of gory today. We're gonna kind of like talk about some like meaty, juicy body parts.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Do you know what I'm saying? Just letting you know. With that being said, Ling Chir was all about torturing someone by hacking off chunks of flesh all around the body. This practice actually started in ancient China. So Lingqiao started being used around 220 BC, and apparently it was so successful
Starting point is 00:03:12 that by the mid 1300s AD, this was the most popular way of executing someone. But it wasn't just for anybody. Lingqiao was reserved for the worst kind of people because you'd suffer for like a really long time before actually dying. Like you wanna talk about torture? This is torture.
Starting point is 00:03:31 So it would be for people like traitors who like betrayed their country, high profile murderers and anyone who crossed Chinese royalty. There are a lot of historical accounts of Lingqiu but I heard this one story that was like, what? So let me tell you about it. So this story happens in China in the 1500s. The emperor at the time died in a freak accident and there was nobody in line to take over the throne. So the palace, they were scrambling. So they decided to turn to someone in the emperor's family, his cousin who was 14
Starting point is 00:04:06 years old, his name is Ji Ajing. Now right from the jump the young, I had to like really try on that, you know me, I butcher names all the time so that was hard. Okay but he's 14 years old, he's young right? And right from the jump this young emperor, he had a lot of pressure on him, you know he had no training to become an emperor. He was just like a rich teenager with family connections. So a lot of people thought that he was actually way too young to rule and they had like and honestly they thought like he had no idea what he was doing. Fair and valid. So the emperor decided to send a message to anyone who was doubting him and they were like look if you doubt me you will be exiled or you will be killed. If you have anything to say you better say it right now bitch you know. He wanted to be clear
Starting point is 00:04:50 that he's not going to take shit from anyone so he ended up torturing and killing hundreds of palace officials who I don't know questioned him. Not long after this the emperor started collecting concubines aka sex workers. These women were essentially his live-in sex slaves and they weren't even women, they were pretty much girls. Like the emperor had a preference for his concubines to be under the age had a bizarre plan to live forever. I have a problem. I absolutely love having new clothes. Do I? Sometimes. I mean if it looks good. But I really hate having to go shopping. I know I don't like shopping. I really don't. You know people who like shopping? Good for them. But for me I'm like, I don't want to. I don't like shopping. I really don't. You know people who like shopping? Good for them. But for me, I'm like, mm-mm. I don't want to. I don't want to. I don't want to.
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Starting point is 00:07:11 Yeah, they always want that, huh? And he believed that there was some sort of magic that could help him achieve this. And this magic, he believed, would come from his teenage lovers. Aside from being a predator and being attracted to younger girls, there was like an added bonus to them being so young. So their youth made them pure. And he believed that purity was a key to immortality. And he's like, oh, if only you could bottle it.
Starting point is 00:07:39 So in order to be immortal, the emperor creates a potion, a potion that he calls red lead. Mmm yummy sounds good. What's in it? Well listen, the emperor kept these young girls around to collect their menstrual blood. Menstruation. Oh yes menstruation that's all right so he did that and then once he had enough he he put it like in a cup he'd mix it with like a few other ingredients and i guess he would drink it we don't really know the details about how exactly he was collecting the period blood and honestly i was thinking maybe they actually invented the diva cup before the diva cup, because how else was he getting it?
Starting point is 00:08:31 Huh? Maybe, I don't know. And my thought was, why did he think that the menstrual blood specifically was gonna do this? And why did he think to drink it, but let him do his thing. He genuinely believed that it was working, okay? I mean, every day he was waking up and he's like, not dead yet, so it must be working. Sadly, these young girls didn't have a choice. Once they were chosen, they had to service the emperor, otherwise they'd
Starting point is 00:08:54 face poverty or death. So it's like, what are you gonna choose? Yeah, I'll bleed in a cup. Sure. As the years go on, the emperor kind of starts to lose it. He becomes paranoid, violent, a little jumpy, you know, and in his violent moments he would pick one of his his girls to have them beaten to death in front of him. So while he was emperor, the emperor allegedly had over 200 of his girls beaten to death. These girls were sick and tired of this psychotic emperor, right? And plus it's like, when are you next? I might be next. They gotta get rid of them. They're miserable. They're trapped. They needed to take action. Too bad they can't bleed out poison. Kill them that way.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Hmm. In 1542, 16 of the emperor's lovers put their heads together to come up with a way out. They were going to kill the emperor and escape the palace. Great, you know, do it, yeah. So one day they waited until the emperor felt safe in the company of one of his favorite young girls. Then once his defenses were down and he had been in there for a while, you know, doing stuff, they knocked on the door.
Starting point is 00:10:20 They were like, how's it going in here? Do you guys need anything? Snacks? A condom? Period blood? Bam, they all jumped the emperor. Oh yeah, you get him girls, you know? So they grabbed his arms, they grabbed his legs,
Starting point is 00:10:35 and they hold him down. And then one of the girls takes a ribbon from her hair. Love that. She wraps it tight around his throat. She's like, ah, and she's strangling him. She's like, she's dying, I'm gonna kill her. And then after a few minutes, I guess one of the girls loses her nerve.
Starting point is 00:10:53 I don't know. This dumb girl, maybe she got scared because this is the, all she knew was this life. And she probably just got freaked out, but she loses it and she runs out and she goes to the emperor's wife. Her name was Phong and she's like screaming at her like oh my god you need to come and see like what's happening. So by this point the girls think that they've killed the emperor but before they
Starting point is 00:11:19 could escape empress Phong calls the palace guards in. So these guards all come in, they pull the women off of the emperor and then they arrest the girls. So to their horror, they watch as the guards revive the emperor. They're like, fuck, damn it. Turns out he wasn't dead. He was just unconscious.
Starting point is 00:11:42 They were so close, you know, and he was like in a coma like state for the next few days. Empress Fong knew that her husband would want her to take care of business while he was in a coma. She was like, yeah, he definitely wants me to take over. He said that. He definitely told me I should do that.
Starting point is 00:12:02 I mean, really? Do you really think he would want a woman in charge? Come on. Anywho, but look, she probably had some personal beef with these women, you know? So, I mean, they were sleeping with her husband, so she saw an opportunity to eat for revenge. So, she takes over and Empress Vong decides to sentence all of the women to death. Even the one who warned her or let her know. So she went with the harshest punishment the law had to offer. Lingchur.
Starting point is 00:12:33 First, the women were brought to the public part of the city. Then they were stripped naked and forcibly tied to a wooden post totally exposed. And then the torture began. Now the goal was to get the victims to stay alive for as long as possible. So they could experience like the most pain. So one by one, each girl has her flesh hacked off. So they would start cutting at your thigh meat, your arms.
Starting point is 00:13:02 They would cut the boobage, anywhere that there might be like extra flesh, you know, because they want you to stay alive. They don't want to kill you. They would slowly work their way up to places like your heart, your face, and like your neck. Not the face. Then over the course of the next few days, chunks of their skin and flesh were hacked
Starting point is 00:13:21 off piece by piece. I mean, just enough for them to like feel horrible pain. The pictures are gross. People's bones and organs are like fully exposed and they're alive. It just looks awful, awful. I mean, if they didn't die from bleeding out, they would die from infection, okay?
Starting point is 00:13:39 And the crowd would apparently be like celebrating as these women cried out in pain. I get it because to them like they were seen these girls were seen as like traitors or whatever you know so they're celebrating their slow death and this was brutal not only because of like what people physically would go through but what it represents. I know you're like well what does it represent Bailey? Well people believed that because Lingchur disfigured and dismembered your physical body that you would never have a chance at being resurrected and slash or finding peace in the afterlife. So victims that were
Starting point is 00:14:17 tied to those wooden posts were terrified to die because they really didn't know what would be waiting for them on the other side. As for the Emperor well he lived you know and he eventually woke up from his coma and they really didn't know what would be waiting for them on the other side. As for the emperor, well, he lived, you know, and he eventually woke up from his coma. And when Empress Fong told them that, you know, she's like, I took care of business, babe, don't worry. Well, like I assumed he was pissed. He's like, who put you in charge, bitch? You know, he was upset. She had killed his favorite little girl without even asking him first. So a few years later, there was like a fire in the palace.
Starting point is 00:14:53 And while palace officials were evacuating, the emperor ordered his men to let Empress Fong burn to death. It's not funny. It's just like, of course he did, you know, cause he is psycho. And that's what you get for trying to do something nice. Eventually, governments across the world were forced to acknowledge that Lingchur was just too brutal and it was outlawed. I was curious about other forms of royal torture because royals really were different you know they have the money
Starting point is 00:15:28 and power to come up with like any kind of torture device that they wanted i feel like a lot of people in power are like either masochist or sadist and like this kind of just proves that to kind of be true yeah anywho but let me tell you, I came across like this other torture technique that just like made me barf a little. Did it? No. But it should've. It's dark and it seems straight out of a movie.
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Starting point is 00:18:37 This, this, okay? Listen, so in the sixth century BC, Joan, when is sixth century? You don't know either? I should have Googled it. Anyhow, this guy named Phalaris, he was the ruler of this Greek colony called Acragis. The only thing we know about him is his legacy as a ruler.
Starting point is 00:18:59 And every piece of writing we found on this guy tells the same story. He was a terrible person. The end. Not just kidding. So first of all, he was known to be like a tyrant, a cruel, oppressive leader, you know, over his people. He was power obsessed.
Starting point is 00:19:20 He didn't play by the rules to get what he wanted and he took what he wanted by violent force, including the throne. Years earlier, before his king era, Filaris was hired to build a temple of Zeus near Acragis. And he must have been stoked because the city was like popping off at the time, you know? It was considered like the rich part of ancient Greece. So he's like, what? you want me to build a temple? Stick, you know? So Philaris was supposed to show up, build a temple, get his payment and get the fuck out of there.
Starting point is 00:19:51 So he shows up with a big group of workers making it seem like he was taking the job seriously. But Philaris had no plans to build that temple. He had secretly armed all of his workers so that they could take over the city. So Philaris and his men violently take over killing anyone who stood in their way and Phalaris becomes the ruler of one of the richest parts of Greece. So the people of the city they weren't they weren't stoked because they had known about this guy for a while and
Starting point is 00:20:21 they knew that he had pretty questionable practices. So there was like rumors going around and some of the rumors that were going around, well one in particular was that this guy was a cannibal. Oh yeah. According to some writers from the second century. He enjoyed eating sucklings, aka babies, which is worse babies or menstruation? Would you rather eat babies or drink period blood? Let me know down below. Okay, so he liked to eat babies, allegedly rumors people were like, oh, I heard that Valeris actually killed and ate his own son. I know I know I wonder what he ate first the legs the arms the head I don't know.
Starting point is 00:21:13 A famous Roman philosopher Cicero you get it Chicago okay no right, so Roman philosopher, his name is Cicero, Cicero described Philaris as someone whose quote, "'Cruelty is notorious beyond that of all others.'" Wow, you think? Okay, so some people believe that like these accounts of him being a cannibal were actually just a metaphor for what an awful and terrifying leader he was. But it's repeated so many times in ancient texts, it's like, you know, there's gotta be some truths in there.
Starting point is 00:21:50 Maybe, I don't know. But Filaris had quite the reputation in town. So he had a kink for torture. What do you call that? Now, is this a masochism or is this sadism? Cause I always mix up the two, but he had, you know, he liked torture. He got off on it and he enjoyed executing people in like slow, terrible ways.
Starting point is 00:22:13 So one writer said, quote, "'Felaris was cruel in his designs and even more cruel in his executions. He perpetrated all kinds of outrages on innocent people. People that worked for him were like walking on eggshells all the time because everyone's afraid, like don't piss him off, he will chop your head off and eat your body.
Starting point is 00:22:33 Like, I don't know. And the only way to gain favor with someone like Filaris was to impress him with something awful. You're like, look, I brought a dead baby. Here you go. This is where a man named Perilous walked in. Now Perilous and Filaris already technically they know each other. I mean, their names are so similar. You know, they kind of like a Cheech and Chong thing going on. But maybe that's why you have
Starting point is 00:23:04 Filaris didn't like him because their name was so similar and he's like, there could only be one. So Perilous is apparently the royal sculptor. So he makes like all the pottery and the statues and the stuff that we dig up and we put in museums. He was doing that and he would do this for Filaris. So he was was cool with Polaris. They knew each other. He was like, hey, love that pot you made me. And Polaris asked him like for a meeting. He's like, hey, I want to meet with you. I have an idea. So Polaris comes in and is like, my tyrant, would you like another torture device? And Polaris is, I guess, boner boner alert you know he's like what yeah so I guess all of his old torture methods just weren't doing it for him
Starting point is 00:23:52 anymore he was bored you know he wanted to spice it up a little he's like I need something new so Filaris knew if Perilous was brave enough to offer to make a new torture device that he would take it seriously because if Perilous was brave enough to offer to make a new torture device that he would take it seriously. Because if Perilous didn't impress him, he knew he could be sentenced to death. So Perilous goes back to his little place and he is like brainstorming. He's gotta come up with some real dark shit.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Maybe he smokes a little bit of the devil's lettuce. He's like, I need some inspo. So he knew, whatever he made, it had to be unlike anything anyone had ever seen before. And most importantly, it had to be torturous. Had to be brutal, had to be bad. Had to be the worst of the worst. Had to be awful, creative, dark,
Starting point is 00:24:47 and murderous. So Perilous is done and then he returns to Polaris. So Perilous is like, close your eyes, no peeking, okay, I got a surprise. And then the servants, they roll something in. Polaris is like, what is it? I can't wait, oh my god! And then, you know, Polaris is like, okay, open your eyes. And Polaris... He is shocked. It's so beautiful. It's a big statue of a bull. You know, he's like, okay, great, great I love this bull but what is it? Well
Starting point is 00:25:27 Perilous explains okay he calls it the brazen bull. So brazen means made of bronze and it's not a statue. Nay nay it's a torture device. He's like, okay, I'm drooling, tell me more. But he shows him the backside of the statue because that's where there's a door. Well, okay, look, if we wanna get technical here, there are some people who say the door was like on the butt and then some say it was on the bull's side, but there's a door, okay?
Starting point is 00:26:01 And Polaris, he opens up the door, he shows him like inside and it's hollow. And it's just like a big empty space. And Polaris is like, what? Like, I don't get it. Like, what, is this a pinata? Like, I don't understand. So Perilous explains.
Starting point is 00:26:18 He's like, listen, here's what you do. You take your victim, you tie them up, and then you force them through the door, and then you shut the door, and then you lock them into this brazen bowl. And then it's like, okay, and well, then you light a fire underneath the bull statue and the bronze heats up. The whole thing, because it's made of bronze, right? So the whole thing heats up, slowly burns and cooks the person alive. So Filaris is like, okay, love, but not really seeing the vision. And then in that moment, I guess,
Starting point is 00:27:07 Perilous was like, oh, just you wait because I'm not done yet. So Perilous tells him, he's like, look, the best part. Well, it's kind of fun. It's like a nice little treat. He tells him that when you close the person inside and you start roasting them alive, naturally they're gonna scream.
Starting point is 00:27:27 Well, inside the bull, there are these complicated tubes. It kind of looks like a tuba. It connects to the bull's mouth. Okay, got it? So when someone is screaming in pain, you know, cause they're slowly brain to death, their screams go through these tubes and it it turns into like a roar that comes out of the bull's mouth that's art he's like wow you
Starting point is 00:27:54 really went off you know you made all those pots and plates and stuff and this is what you make next like that's creativity right there do you know what a bowl sounds like? Cause I didn't, so YouTube did. So it's kind of like this deep haunting moo. It's like, wait, no. I honestly kind of nailed it. So when the person is cooking inside, these tubes make it sound like it's a bowl yelling. That's different, right?
Starting point is 00:28:23 Like that's a special kind of fucked up. That's dark. So for a little moment, Filaris is like, oh my God, love. You know, he's loving it. He is in shock that Perilous perfectly nailed what he was looking for. He's like, the bull basically takes away their humanity
Starting point is 00:28:40 as they die. Perfect. I love that. So legend has it, Filaris' mood, I don't know, takes a turn. Some say he was disgusted with the device and others say he was actually jealous that he didn't think of this idea himself. Get this. He was ready to see how this bowl worked. So Filaris goes to Perilous and he's like, hey can you demonstrate like how the bull noise works? Because like I don't get it. So Perilous
Starting point is 00:29:13 is like, oh my god yeah like for sure I'll show you. So he gets inside. He's like, okay see the horns are here, watch, whatever. Filaris shuts the door. And Perilous starts to yell to demonstrate the noise. According to legend, Filaris lights a fire underneath the bull and listens to the bull roar as Perilous slowly burns to death. I guess he wanted to see it in action, Filaris. He's like, I want a real demonstration, so let me just do it. In some versions of this story, he pulls Perilous out when he's half-cooked and throws him off
Starting point is 00:29:56 of a cliff. Scholars say that Filaris used this torture method on his worst enemies. I'm rolling my eyes, because it's like, I'm sure. I'm sure he's probably like, that guy, put him in, you know? But when someone was inside and they were getting cooked and the bull would like roar, I guess you could hear it like all throughout the city. And Filaris, oh, he loved it.
Starting point is 00:30:23 He loved the theater of it all, the performance, it was beautiful and he loved terrifying people so he's like this is great, this is beautiful, this is art. So after Polaris dies, they think it's around like 554 BC, the people of the city stormed the temple. So I guess together they picked up the brazen bull. They hauled it outside and they threw it into the ocean. It's such a bummer that you know they couldn't put him in the the bull himself and like torture him huh? Bummer. But the reason that we know about the brazen bull is because of the many tales that have been written about it throughout history. And some people don't necessarily blame
Starting point is 00:31:09 Falares for using it. He's a psychopath. If you give a psychopath a cookie they're probably going to eat it you know? Instead people blame Perilous for inventing it in the first place, which is so dumb. Well, I mean, that's actually, that's an interesting take because when you think about it, do you blame the guy who invented it or do you blame the guy who used it? I think we can blame both of them and call them both sick, but you know, it's just, I don't know, whatever.
Starting point is 00:31:46 So I guess there are like no piece of the actual bowl has ever been found. And I don't know if any of you guys have ever been to the torture museum and they have like a replica of the brazen bowl and it's huge and it's terrifying. But yeah, they actually have never found a piece of like the real thing. So some people actually kind of think it's fake.
Starting point is 00:32:09 Moral of the story, people are sick. So, brazen bowl, real or not? I think it is. The second it dips below 70 degrees, I am reaching for my sweaters. It makes it feel like fall. But here's the thing nobody talks about when it comes to those big comfy sweaters.
Starting point is 00:32:30 B-O. I live in Southern California. Here, like, it doesn't get that chilly. So like, I'm wearing a sweater. I'm like, oh my God, fall, ah. But then after a full day of running errands in this cute wool sweater, whoo! Them armpits.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I sort of reach for my deodorant and stick it at home, but sometimes that doesn't even do the trick, it just lingers. What if you could get a deodorant that just makes you fresh all over? Because maybe, you know, you know what I'm saying, like under here, under the boobage, you get that sweat, I get that sweat. So that's why I use Lumi. Listen, it's a deodorant that was created by OBGYN who noticed that normal BO was being misdiagnosed
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Starting point is 00:34:49 That's code DARKHISTORY at Lumideodorant.com. Please support our show and tell them we sent you. Please support our show and tell them we sent you. Smell fresher, stay drier, and boost your confidence from head to toe with looming. So the next form of torture is probably the simplest form of torture that we've talked about today. There are no bells, whistles, or bowls. But I think that's what makes it kinda way worse. In the late 400s BC in ancient Persia, there were two brothers, Cyrus and Artaxerxes.
Starting point is 00:35:32 But we're gonna call him Arta, because it's easier for me, I'm so sorry. So Arta, listen, he was sometimes called the mindful because he was usually very gentle and thoughtful. I mean, at least in comparison to his brother. Cyrus was the younger brother, so he was like the favorite. So Cyrus and Arta were both royalty because their father was king of Persia. So their dad dies. They're like, no, naturally, Arta, who's the oldest, was set to take the throne. But his mom was not happy about this.
Starting point is 00:36:10 She was like I want Cyrus, my favorite son, to take over. But because he was the youngest, that was out of the question. On the day that Arta was set to take the throne, there's an incident. So a priest rushes in and tells Arta that he thinks Cyrus is planning to kill him so that he could be king. So the priest runs in there. He's like Arta, Cyrus is waiting for you in the other room and when you walk in there he's going to jump you. This priest, he knew Cyrus really well and he's a priest. So Arta is like, you know, I believe you. So Arta sends guards to find Cyrus.
Starting point is 00:36:49 So the guards go looking and they find him in the other room exactly where the priest said he would be. So it's not a great look, but also he's like, hey priest, good job, you know? But Arta is spooked. He's like, my brother's trying to freaking kill me. So he decides to have his brother executed. I mean, look, even if Cyrus wasn't going to kill him that day,
Starting point is 00:37:09 he probably would try to someday. So just, you know, get rid of him. So Arta is set on executing him. But before he could, his mom rushes in and she's panicking. She pleads with Arta, she's like, please don't kill Cyrus. He's my baby boy, I love him, whatever. So he's like, fine mom, and he listens. So he's like, look, I won't kill him, I'll just banish him. You happy with that, mom? She's like, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:37 So Cyrus gets banished. Great. Things are great, things are fine. King Arta is ruling, the Empire is at peace. But then, Cyrus comes back around. Now, Cyrus, while he was banished, he had a lot of time to think about some things. What else are you going to do when you're banished, you know? But Cyrus couldn't stop thinking about what Arta had done to him. I mean there wasn't any evidence that he was going to kill Arta. It was just a rumor from a priest and priests are known to lie. So he was pissed.
Starting point is 00:38:16 So a couple years go by he's thinking he's like f my brother you know he tells himself like you know what I'm gonna go back and I'm going to take the throne. I'm gonna do whatever it takes to have the throne and I don't even care if I die trying. At this time, he was living in Greece. Now, Greece had fought Persia decades before, so there was like some beef between the two countries. So it's not hard for Cyrus to find people and like build up an army that's ready to fight the two countries. So it's not hard for Cyrus to find people
Starting point is 00:38:45 and like build up an army that's ready to fight the Persians. He's like, hey, aren't you still mad at Persia? Me too, join my army. So he builds up his own army and they decide to invade Persia. Him and his army, they destroy anyone and everything that's like in their way. And he has one goal to get to the palace and kill his brother.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Now the journey from like Greece to Persia is long so you know word gets gets back to Arta that Cyrus is on his way to kill him. So Cyrus is like all right you, you know, okay, well, I gotta be ready to fight. Finally, Cyrus reaches the front of the palace and you know who's there waiting for him? Arta. And the two of them just go at it. They're on horseback, throwing spears at each other. I mean, it's wild.
Starting point is 00:39:39 So they both end up wounding each other. And apparently Cyrus gets hit and his horse freaks out starts running around all crazy. Cyrus is stuck on the horse so he's just getting like tossed around like a salad. So the a soldier who works for Arta sees Cyrus and he doesn't know that Cyrus is Arta's brother. So the soldier is like, I just need to protect my king. So the soldier stabs Cyrus in the head with a spear. So Cyrus falls off the horse, he bleats out, and then he dies. Now Cyrus's death ends the battle and the whole invasion.
Starting point is 00:40:22 And now you're thinking, you're like, Bailey, what? That's not torture, that's just a spear in the head. And you're right. Because plot twist, Cyrus isn't the one who gets tortured. Oh nay nay. It's his killer. So Arda finds the soldier who killed Cyrus. His name was Mithridates. He's just like a regular soldier, you know, no biggie. And I guess this is like a very big problem for Arta. You see, this random soldier killing his brother does not make the king look strong. It makes him look weak. Arta's like, I'm the one who should have killed him. Not you. Who the fuck are you? You know, he's like really upset about this. So the king strikes up a deal with this guy. He's like, look, I'll give you a bunch of jewels and some treasure if you just tell people that I killed him and not you. I mean he doesn't want people to know like what really happened because it will make him look
Starting point is 00:41:21 weak. After the battle there's a banquet and Mithra Deities shows up all decked out. He's wearing like all his jewels and stuff. He's like look. Towards the end of the banquet you know someone goes up to Mithra Deities and was like oh my god like you look so good like how did you get so rich? I just saw you the other day like you you were just like sweeping you know like what do you what what happened so Mithra deities is like oh like wouldn't you like to know he's like bragging whatever he's being annoying you know those people when you ask them something and they're like they do that they're being vague or giving you an answer with a question and you're like yeah i would like to know that's why i asked you know know, you're just like, just tell me that's annoying.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So he was doing that. He was being that bitch. So then in front of like the whole party, after a few like goblets too many, Mithridates, he's like, okay, he's probably like dropped, you know, he's like, okay, okay. I'm just gonna say it. I did it. I killed Cyrus. And the king paid me to keep quiet. And then so he says this loudly and everybody hears and everyone was like, you know? So he says this drunk, stupid, being sloppy and even though he just spilled like literally the hottest tea ever. Unfortunately, he also insulted the king in front of everyone and at the banquet there were some high
Starting point is 00:42:50 up advisors and also his mommy. He looked bad. The king looked bad. I guess mom is pissed off because she like found she just found out who really killed her favorite son so she tells Arda like, look, however you punish this guy, make it harsh. So the king arrests Mithridates and he sentences him to death, which doesn't make sense. Like he helped you out, but whatever. And of course, like it couldn't be something simple. Like, I don't know, beheading, you know, no biggie.
Starting point is 00:43:22 He instead sentences him to something called Scaphism now this is where it gets a little nasty apparently death by scaphism is also called The boats I know At first I was like the boats is this like a cute little boat ride to the afterlife like do they put your dead body in? A boat and like send you down the river you you know? Cause that's kind of cute, but no, okay? Skafism is where someone would build a wooden box around your torso. I don't know, cause based off the pictures,
Starting point is 00:43:57 it looks like it's around your whole body and then your arms, your head, and your legs are sticking out. So it's like you're a turtle and it's your turtle shell and all around you is this wooden box and you're like you can't move you're just locked in here okay. So Mithra Dainis is put into this wooden shell and then floated in the water on his back and he's looking directly at the sun every day. He can't move, he can't cover his eyes, nothing, right? He's force fed a bunch of food.
Starting point is 00:44:30 And it's like, sure, you can refuse to eat it, but if you refuse to eat it, some bozos swim out and like stab you in the eyes. So next they would pour a mixture of milk and honey all over him. And then they would also like get in those little holes and then like pour it inside the wooden shell that he's trapped in. At first you're like oh cute like slippery but really he's just sitting in the sun full of food covered in milk and honey.
Starting point is 00:45:00 It's like okay where's this going but then you think about it. Bugs. Bugs start appearing and they are loving this. They're like, ooh food, delicious. And they start feasting. Apparently bugs would cover the body so fast that you couldn't even see this guy's face anymore. So his eyes are completely covered by bugs eating the milk and honey and chewing into his face. Then the bugs, they start eating the parts of his body trapped inside the boat. You're like, well, that sucks. I know, but we're not done. Because listen, remember all the food that they were forced to eat? Well, it's got to come out, you know? So guess what?
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yep, they purposely fed him food that would give him major diarrhea. Mm-hmm. So he starts pooping himself inside this wooden shell. And he's just filling this little shell with diarrhea. And that causes the boat to smell, you know? Hot sun, diarrhea, bugs, milk and honey, it's just like, oh, oh, and then your arms and your legs are stuck, so it's like, think of bugs like crawling all over
Starting point is 00:46:14 you and you can't like itch it or swat it away and then you have diarrhea all over you, yeah, that's torture. And then like, you know, more bugs show up because they love di- Korea. They're like, this is great. Bugs are just like, there's a lot going on. What kind of bugs? Well, if you must know, worms, beetles, bugs that love poop, bugs. And for like a little while these bugs just live in the poop and they're like poop sorry poop and this whole thing isn't just gross and uncomfortable it's it's gonna kill you because after a while your poop isn't enough for these bugs so they start just like going to the source aka your butthole. So these these worms they start crawling all inside you and they start eating you until you die. And this method of torture can last for days. Now allegedly Mithates, it took him like 17 days to die.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Like who thought of this? Especially the diarrhea part. Like that's... okay. Alright. So look, if you were going to be tortured to death, which one would you choose? That's a good question. Let me think about this. I don't want to do the bowl because that just sounds like awful and like put them in the boat with the diarrhea. And then the flaying, I can't think of an answer actually. But let me know what you choose, baby or menstrual blood.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Have you ever traveled to another country and noticed their toilet situation is totally different from the United States, especially in Europe. They have bidets everywhere. Let me tell you, one time I went to Japan, this was many, many moons ago, and they had these bidets everywhere. Like, it was a magical moment.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I was hesitant to try them at first, but then I did, and my life was forever changed, or my butt was, depending on who we ask, you know? So then when I got back home from my trip, I was super bummed because I was like, now I gotta go back to like toilet paper? It doesn't make sense. How come they have it figured out over there and we don't?
Starting point is 00:48:35 And it seems like the United States has never really embraced the bidet until they met Tushy. Let me tell you about Tushy. Tushy is a bidet that easily attaches to your toilet and is designed to remove 99% of bacteria for a cleaner, gentler experience than wiping alone. Oh, look, don't be afraid of it. Trust me, you are going to love it
Starting point is 00:48:57 because it makes you feel extra clean and you'll use less toilet paper. And if you've lived through 2020, you know how important that could be. Oh, I love it. It's incredible, you guys. I don't know why everyone's so afraid of, like if you use it, you feel so much cleaner.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Like toilet paper makes no sense. And even though I've got an amazing crew ready to help, guess what? You don't need them. Sorry, guys. I know you got dressed up for this and you look fabulous, but we don't need you after all. Plus I don't trust you with my toilet. Tushy makes installation easy. It takes less than 10 minutes and doesn't need any additional plumbing or electricity. Tushy is beginner friendly and their
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Starting point is 00:50:10 any advice from me, this should be it. Get a bidet. It's time to finally feel like shower fresh, okay? And join the two million butts who already made the switch to Hello TushyBidet. For a limited time, our listeners get 10% off their first bidet order when you use code darkhistory at checkout. That's 10% off your first bidet order at hellotushy.com with promo code darkhistory. Stop being afraid. Just sit, relax, and enjoy it, okay?
Starting point is 00:50:45 Jeez. Now I don't know about you, but I feel like I just watched three horror movies in a row. Or listened to three horror movies in a row. It's hard to believe that these ancient torture techniques aren't just something from like a movie, right? All three of the torture methods we talked about today were real and they happen to real people.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Diarrhea boat, real. Bull, real. Filet mignon, real. Now watching the torture was actually a form of entertainment to people. I don't blame them. There wasn't much to do back then. I think the reason that it's not discussed in textbooks is because one it's shameful and two it probably gives people ideas But I think we can all agree that this is fucked up and that's what we're all about here at dark history Anywho today's episode was wilds I know it's hard to only pick three we can go on and on and on and on about torture techniques
Starting point is 00:51:39 There's so many it's never-ending these people were fucked up. up these people were gross i thought we were gross nowadays you know no i mean yes we are but like oh that's a different that's different that's different okay bear with me with this transition but speaking of gross have you ever gotten hair in your food at a restaurant you know after today's episode it's really not that gross i'll take it i'll still still eat it, it's fine. Have you ever gotten sick after eating out? Yeah, again, not that bad after today's episode, huh? Well, look, it makes you realize how much trust we put in people making our food, you know?
Starting point is 00:52:14 We just assume that they're being safe and no one wants us to be sick with the food that they made us. But back in the 1920s, there was a cook named Mary Mallon who spread a deadly disease to dozens of people and some think she did it on purpose. I like this episode. Okay listen next episode we'll be talking about the deadliest cook in American history. Now, was she a menace or a victim herself? Oh, I can't wait to hear your guys's hot takes because it kind of gets you thinking, this girl. It really will. It'll get you thinking. And you know what inspired me to do this episode
Starting point is 00:52:59 of Dark History? I was getting sick over and over and over again and I kept going back to my doctor and my doctor was like oh my god I'm gonna start calling you Typhoid Mary and I was like Typhoid Mary? Who's that? And now we have an episode of Dark History so I have to shout out my doctor for calling me Typhoid Mary. Thanks doc. So be sure to join us next time for the dark history of Typhoid Mary. By the way, we are dark next week, meaning there won't be an upload, but we're back on November 6th. I'm gonna go off to take a long hot shower after today's episode. Thank you for hanging out with me.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Did you know you can join me over on my YouTube where you can actually watch these episodes on Thursday after the podcast airs? And while you're there you can also catch my murder, mystery, and makeup. And don't forget to subscribe because I'm here for you with new content all the time. I'd love to hear your guys' reactions to today's story so make sure to leave a comment down below so I can see what you guys are saying. I can't wait to read this comment section. I'm sure it'll be great. And your comment might even be featured in a future episode. Now let's read a couple of comments
Starting point is 00:54:09 that you guys have left me. AlexBose305 left us a comment saying, perfect timing for my lunch break, lol, eating my rolled tacos in my car, and watching Dark History. Well Alex, I hope you aren't eating lunch while listening to this episode. If you are, I'm sorry. Don't hate me. What kind of tacos are you eating? Oh, rolled tacos. What kind of meat? And do you, what do you put on your
Starting point is 00:54:38 taco? What kind of car? What's your social security? Personal last name? Date of birth? Address? Mother's maiden name? First animal's name? Just let me know. Thanks for watching, I appreciate you. I hope you had a good lunch.
Starting point is 00:54:56 Jasmine Parnell, 7-6-9-7 left me a comment saying, "'I love watching your channel. "'My husband watches your channel when he's away "'from home to go to sleep because it makes him miss home a little bit less. Jasmine, thank you so much for your comment. That is very sweet. Tell your husband hi. Thank you. Thank you for watching. Um, does he fall asleep when he's watching? I hear I put a lot of people to sleep. Now I'm not sure if that's a compliment or a bad thing. I'll take it. I'll take it. Whatever. You know, that's okay. That's fine. Anywho, thank you for watching. I appreciate you and love ya bitch. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Thank you! Lisa Mercer 8651 left us an episode suggestion saying, The dark history of Google. How does Google know everything? Lisa, Lisa, Lisa, Lisa, Lisa. This is a great idea. It's kind of funny that I would have like, I would have to Google the history of Google. So I'm not sure how that would work. I will look into this though because that's not a bad idea. I think I'd make for an interesting episode because like Google started off as one thing and now where it is today is completely different than what they originally stood for and that could make a really interesting episode. You know I'm pissing off so many people here at Dark History. I'm gonna get murdered aren't I? Yeah. Anywho, love you guys for watching. I also appreciate you for commenting and engaging and don't forget to
Starting point is 00:56:22 leave a comment because maybe you'll be featured in a future episode and hey if you don't know dark history is an audio boom original a special thank you to our expert dr. Nancy Park professor of history California State University East Bay and I'm your host Bailey Sarian I hope you have a good day you make make good choices. Be safe out there. And I'll be talking to you guys later. Goodbye. Oh. Ah.

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