Dark History - 154: The Mass Murderer Who Inspired Hitler: How Mussolini Manipulated a Nation

Episode Date: December 18, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Listen, I am very interested in dictators. I read so much about Stalin last year. I mean, we even did a two parter on him and wow, you know, he killed a lot of people. Today's main character has a lot in common with Stalin. You'll see what I mean. He was besties with Hitler. He survived not one, not two, not three, but four assassination attempts. On top of that, after he survived, he tried to cancel
Starting point is 00:00:27 Christmas. Well, and he killed like a lot of people. Kind of should throw that in there. Today we're talking about Benito Mussolini. Mussolini kind of sounds like, um, I don't know, pasta. Doesn't it? No, it doesn't? Okay. But it's actually the name of one of the most horrific mass murders in history. I mean, he's responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people. But you know, I've always heard about the guy and I was just like, where did he come from? Like, why was he such a monster?
Starting point is 00:01:00 Like what made him so powerful? And why did so many people support him? Well, those are the questions I wanted to know the answers to. So let's learn about Benito Mussolini in today's episode of Dark History. ["Dark History Theme"] Hi friends, I hope you're having a wonderful day today.
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Starting point is 00:01:52 Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini was born on July 29th, 1883. I'm just gonna call him Mussolini because like that's how everyone really knows the guy really, right? Yeah. So Mussolini was like the oldest of three children. He grew up in a small village called Dovia where his dad was a blacksmith and his mom was a school teacher. So his dad Alessandro wasn't like the other people in the religious town. Like he actually really hated the church. Alessandro basically thought the
Starting point is 00:02:26 church should stay like out of people's lives and be separate from the government. And he really like passed this hatred down to his son. Alessandro seemed like an intense guy. Like he was angry and it was said that he was physically abusive towards his wife and the kids. And like Mussolini's dad would drill into his head that he needed to be educated. Like it was very, very important to him. Maybe because his dad didn't have an education and like he wanted a better life for his son than he had, you know?
Starting point is 00:03:00 Despite this, a lot of people look down on the family, mainly like by other relatives. Mussolini's mom was from like, I guess a wealthier family. And you know, they thought that she married down when she got with Alessandro. You know, like he's this uneducated blacksmith. Well, it was said that at a young age, Mussolini, he would start acting out, you know, just misbehaving. And he had a bit of an anger problem himself. Now, maybe because of this, he was sent to boarding school
Starting point is 00:03:30 when he was 12 years old, and I guess things only got harder for him. So while he was at boarding school, Mussolini was treated differently than a lot of the other kids. Like, he was poor and from, like, this small town, and the other kids just like looked down on him because of this.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Now this was very upsetting to young Mussolini. He wasn't gonna take her out from these kids so he started getting into fights with other classmates and at one point he pulled a knife out on a kid. Oh yeah. And this ended up getting him expelled. After this, his family had to find another school for him which was not easy with his track record.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Mussolini ended up at a state-run school meant to create future teachers. You know, like maybe he would follow in his mother's footsteps. Overall, he does better at this school, mainly because there was like a better mixture of middle and lower class families there. He, I guess, would still get into fights,
Starting point is 00:04:24 but it was fine, because in 1901 he would go on to graduate. You know, after this, there were like high hopes that young Mussolini would go on to become a great educator, a teacher, like mommy. I know, and could you imagine if he was a teacher? You'd be like, oh my God, Mussolini was my third grade teacher, that's wild.
Starting point is 00:04:42 But this career wouldn't last very long. Sometimes trying to figure out what everyone wants to eat can be challenging. I mean, I look at Joe and I'm like, Joe, what do you wanna eat? Thai, of course, you know, Thai, it's always Thai. And then I ask Paul, I'm like, Paul, what do you wanna eat? Oh, he's like, anything but Thai.
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Starting point is 00:06:37 for his bad attitude. And this is just one of many jobs he would lose for his terrible behavior. But Mussolini wasn't just like a problem in his professional life. Around this time, Mussolini was accused of sexual assault. Not ideal, great. Between being a sexual predator
Starting point is 00:06:57 and like not being able to hold down a job, Mussolini, he just like decides to move, you know? That'll solve everything. So in 1902, he ends up moving to Switzerland to dodge the Italian draft. While he's there, he finally finds something that he's kind of good at. Public speaking.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Oh no, oh yes. Mussolini was considered a revolutionary socialist. And this is different from what socialism is known as today. I mean, everyone has a different version really, but basically for him at this time, he was an extremist who believed in using violence to get what you want. Now to make this happen,
Starting point is 00:07:39 he starts to make a name for himself speaking out against the church and the Italian government. So he ends up holding like rallies and demonstrations where he is essentially telling people to use violence against these establishments and this type of talk ends up getting him arrested like a couple of times. And while you know this is not great for his record, it's earning him major street cred. People really start to respect him all because he is like passionate and unafraid to speak his mind. People love that shit, huh? Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:15 In fact, his speeches start to get him some attention from other revolutionary socialists. There are like some other rising stars on the political scene. They start to take notice of this Mussolini guy and some look at this time as the beginning of his rise to power. By 1909, Mussolini had moved back to Italy to a place called Trent and here his career really starts to take off. He gets a job as an editor for a newspaper called The Future of the Worker. Essentially saying that it isn't strong enough to be of service to the Italian people and
Starting point is 00:08:52 that they need new, powerful leadership. After World War I, Italy was in shambles. There was no stable political system in place and people felt like the government wasn't strong enough to solve problems like inflation and unemployment which were at an all-time high after the war. And once he's in this position, Mussolini takes full advantage of it. He starts to like churn out articles riling people up against the government. So he's spreading propaganda and getting people to see things from like his point of view. And he's advocating for violence in like all situations. So he's like, hey, the government passed like
Starting point is 00:09:34 some kind of crappy law, use violence. Someone is looking at you the wrong way, use violence. And you know, Stalin did almost exactly the same thing. I mean mean he even ran the revolutionary newspaper where he rallied people against the king. They're like scissor sisters, you know? But back to Moosey. He once said quote, let us have a dagger between our teeth, a bomb in our hands, and an infinite scorn in our hearts. So he's like making a lot of people upset,
Starting point is 00:10:06 but he's also gaining a following. People are like, oh, I like this guy. And you know what they say, I mean, any press is good press. So around this same time, it's like 1910, Lucilini is like 26 years old, and he actually had a little hobby, a little a little side hustle. Yeah I didn't see this one coming. I was like what? He was an author. Yeah and
Starting point is 00:10:33 specifically he was writing a romance novel. Mm-hmm. I know it's kind of like a plot twist. I was like what? Romance? Novel? Huh? But it's called the Cardinal's Mistress. And the story, it takes place in Trent, but like 200 years before, and it tells the story of a 17th century Cardinal's affair with his mistress, Claudia. And it turns out to be very popular with the people in town. I imagine the women in town are like, ah, he's an amazing political leader. He's super romantic. What can he do?
Starting point is 00:11:11 I mean, was it good? How many good read stars does it have? Let me know. Have you read it? So he's doing that, but you know, Mussolini like mainly, you know, politics seems to be his thing. He was back to like doing his favorite thing,
Starting point is 00:11:26 stirring the pot and convincing people to like violently protest against the government. Now, naturally, this is going to attract the attention of the police. So Mussolini would get into altercations with the police and boom, like he's right back in prison. And this would happen like several different times and then something kind of unexpected happens besides the novel. Mussolini falls in love. In 1910 he meets a woman named
Starting point is 00:11:58 Rochelle and guess how they know each other? Well, Rochelle was the daughter of his father's mistress. His father's mistress. So his father's doing his thing with this mistress. It's her daughter. Okay, got it. Cool. Mussolini and Rochelle, they fall in love. They quickly move in together.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And at first he tells her, you know, he's gonna marry her, but he doesn't, he doesn't follow through. Then I guess he essentially like ghosts her. So after this, you know, Rochelle's parents don't really like Mussolini. Plus, you know, her mom was sleeping with his dad, so it was complicated and messy. Now the story is that when Mussolini comes back a year later, he is set on marrying Rochelle.
Starting point is 00:12:51 But when he asks her parents for permission, they're like, hmmm, no. No. But you know, he won't take no for an answer. He's a dictator in training so he's like, no means yes. So I guess at this point he pulls out a gun and literally at gunpoint he's like I'm gonna marry your daughter or I'm gonna kill myself and her. Geez and apparently like this worked and Rochelle and Mussolini they end up getting married. I know imagine the wedding Rochelle's mom has to pretend to be meeting Mussolini's dad for the first time, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:26 like they're not having an affair. They're like, oh my God, hi, it's so nice to meet you. I've never met you before. This is our first time meeting, right? We just met? Yeah. So he gets married and you know, it doesn't calm him down or anything
Starting point is 00:13:40 because in 1911, he ends up going right back to prison after getting arrested at a protest for clashing with the police. And then World War I breaks out and he like barely just gets out of prison and now his ass was getting drafted. He really has no choice but to go to war, he has to. And while he's fighting he starts keeping a diary and at some point he has like this big lightbulb moment.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Basically he starts to think war is actually great. It brings people together. He's like, yeah, he believed it gave everyone a common cause to fight about. Now he doesn't end up serving for that long. I guess he ends up getting medically discharged. We don't really know a hundred percent why, but most likely it was either because of, you know, a grenade injury or because he got syphilis.
Starting point is 00:14:31 You know? We don't know. So, uh, back then, I guess syphilis was pretty common for soldiers to have. Not, well, they would get it and then get discharged. Now that he's out of the military, Mousini turns his attention to world domination as one does. In 1919, he forms a vigilante group. Look, I can't say what this group was called, but it basically means the Italian Fighting League. Anyway, forming this group is seen as the unofficial beginning of the Italian Fascist Party.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So the Italian Fascist Party was all about extreme pride and loyalty to their country. They wanted to build a powerful unified Italy and restore its quote ancient glory. Another core belief was authoritarian rule, aka having one single strong leader with complete control over the government. This is kind of the opposite of a democracy where the people get to have a say in things. They also believe this control should extend into all aspects of life, like even personal beliefs.
Starting point is 00:15:42 So zero freedom of speech was like a big part of this. And of course they really wanted a strong military because they were obsessed with like war and they glorified it. And they saw conquering other countries as a way of achieving greatness. And you know, it was interesting to learn like Mussolini is actually the first person
Starting point is 00:16:03 to call this type of government Fascism. Yeah, he's the one who like actually like made the word Like he's not the first dictator or the first person to ever think of these ideas But he's the one who actually gave it a name. So between 1920 and 1922 Mussolini takes this group of his closest followers and they go around like terrorizing Italy together. So he calls his crew the black shirts. But I was looking at pictures, they are kind of stylish. I don't know, they're very stylish people. But Mussolini is like targeting anyone
Starting point is 00:16:38 who speaks out against him and anyone who doesn't share his personal views. This group, they're like beating people on the street, they're killing people if they like got in the way, just like asserting dominance and making a name for themselves. Well, you know, word is getting around and Mussolini's politics had inspired
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Starting point is 00:19:20 So even though it may seem crazy that anyone like this guy who was running around with like a crew Beating people up what they saw was a powerful man who was promising to like make Their lives and their country better He was telling everyone that he was gonna bring back law and order in a time when Italy was just going through Political chaos he vowed to build a strong military and expand Italy's territory. And on top of that, he was kind of charming and knew how to work a crowd.
Starting point is 00:19:54 I feel like someone who's a good public speaker is usually good at that. You gotta get people to like you. So he was good at that. Whenever he was speaking, people kind of felt like they were a part of something bigger. You know, they were inspired. Like this guy was gonna be their answer.
Starting point is 00:20:13 And he was like one of the first political leaders that so many women were also like swooning over. Well, I mean, people were kind of doing that with Stalin too, no? Well, whatever. He was really playing like into his sex appeal. But if you look at pictures of him, I'm like, bitch, where? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:20:33 But okay, people were loving it. Isn't it funny though, Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini kind of all have the same weird trifecta story going on? I don't know. Okay, but Mussolini, he was really into being a sex symbol he loved it and sometimes when he was being filmed he would like rip his shirt off yeah like literally and like people were like oh my god oh you know just like uh he's so hairy it's hot and around this time he starts to go by the nickname El Duce, which means the guide or the conductor in Italian.
Starting point is 00:21:08 With everything set in place, on November 9th, 1921, Mussolini officially transforms his loyal black shirts into the National Fascist Party. And he makes himself the leader. And this party really blew up overnight. Before the rebrand, there had been around like 30,000 members, which is a lot, but now this had grown to about 320,000 members. Well, everyone's getting all riled up, right?
Starting point is 00:21:39 Like Mussolini is gonna change Italy. On October 22nd, 1922, Mussolini and 30,000 of his black shirts crew members decided to take the government by force. They believed that if they can show how strong they were, they could force the king and the government to give them power. So they decided, you know, to organize like a big march to the capital city of Rome to demand control. And this became known as the March on Rome. Okay, so they're marching up, whatever, right?
Starting point is 00:22:12 And along the way, they are causing, you know, a lot of destruction. They like break into buildings, they destroy public property, they terrorize anyone who's in their way. It kind of is very on brand for him. I mean, he's all about violence, so that's what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And by the time they reached the Capitol, I guess they had killed around 40 people. I guess at this point, the prime minister tries to impose martial law, which is essentially when the military steps in and enforces law and order during times of chaos. But the king of Italy, his name was King Victor Emmanuel III, he tells the prime minister not to. He was worried that if they didn't give Mussolini what he wanted, there might be a lot more chaos, violence, and like death, you know?
Starting point is 00:23:07 So they just like did nothing at first. So for three more days, Rome was terrorized by Mussolini's crew. Finally, on October 28th, the Prime Minister and his cabinet resign and like word gets back to Mussolini. So he ends up going to see the king. So the king he ends up it's like a lot more complicated than this but like listen here's what like the simplified version he decides to make Mussolini the Prime Minister of Italy which meant that Mussolini became the leader of the government. After all this this, I mean, essentially he's getting,
Starting point is 00:23:46 he got what he wanted. And so Mussolini orders the Blackshirts to leave Rome. And eight days later, on October 30th, 1922, Mussolini officially gained power over Italy. Mussolini did manage to cut through the chaos and like make things happen for the people. He launched big infrastructure projects. He built roads, railways, and even a new airport. And um you know people are like, fuck yeah we love this guy.
Starting point is 00:24:16 You know? It's kind of like it's like a really really toxic relationship. It's always great in the beginning right right? They give you all of this railways, airports, roads, and then it goes shit. It goes south and then it gets bad. So this is what Mussolini is doing. He's like buttering everyone up. Anyhow, but because of all this, like Mussolini was able to like boost the economy and reduce unemployment and like things people were like, this is great. this is great. He was like making good on all like the promises to the people, but there was a downside because living under, you know, him as a dictator
Starting point is 00:24:54 meant that nothing was as it seemed. Mussolini was also a master of spin, like spin class, but not, but kind of because soul cycle is kinda like culty, right? Anyways, but he had newspapers and radio stations like pumping out propaganda day and night, telling everyone like, he's amazing. Isn't life amazing under his rule? And he never allowed any negative stories
Starting point is 00:25:22 about him to be published, because why would he, you know? And while Mussolini is like living it up, thinking he's invincible, someone was getting ready to like finally overtake him. Oh yes, a man was rising to power in Germany. I think about this a lot. I think if I could have any superpower in the world,
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Starting point is 00:28:20 and gained control of the country. And he had a lot of people who liked him a lot. One of his biggest fans was Adolf Hitler. Yeah, Hitler was a big fan girl when it came to Mussolini. He found his rise to power inspirational. He's like, wow, that guy really did it. And in 1923, just about a year after Mussolini ordered the march on Rome,
Starting point is 00:28:46 Hitler decides imitation is the most sincere form of flattery. So he gets his Nazis to organize a march on Berlin. But Hitler's version of this march on the Capitol was like, it wasn't as successful. People died and ultimately, like Hitler was arrested for treason. So while Hitler's in jail, he actually writes his autobiography called
Starting point is 00:29:10 Mein Kampf, aka My Struggle. But in this autobiography, he actually name checks Mussolini, calling him one of the greatest men ever, really. This comes across Mussolini's desk and he's like, mm, okay. Like it's, I don't know. Like I guess he just doesn't really care for it.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I mean, this was like Mussolini's, you know, 15 minutes of fame and like now someone was trying to like come in and like steal his thunder, you know? So he wasn't really flattered. He was kind of annoyed, but pretty much Mussolini like ignores it. He's like, okay, thanks for the shout out, I guess, thing, like doesn't say anything, moves on.
Starting point is 00:29:50 Mussolini was like absolutely obsessed with holding onto his position of power. And while he was in charge, there was no freedom. So when he was in charge, you know, he banned political parties, he controlled the media and used secret police to like silence anyone who disagreed with him. There were also no elections, so a lot of people were feeling like powerless and oppressed.
Starting point is 00:30:13 He used violence and intimidation to keep control. And if you did speak out against him, you were arrested, imprisoned, and sometimes killed. To fund his projects, he raised taxes and forced people to work under like really tough conditions. And there were many broken promises and a loss of trust happening within the people. So, you know, over time, this is like, when people were like really liking Mussolini,
Starting point is 00:30:42 like people are starting to seem differently. To add some fun into the mix, he, Mussolini was like fighting, I don't know if it's a private war or like a personal war against Christmas. I don't know. I don't think he got any gifts. And he just like, he hated Christmas.
Starting point is 00:30:59 He really hated it. Christmas was a huge deal in Italy. That's because the whole country was Catholic and if you remember Mussolini hates religion. But all this Christmas stuff seemed to really get under his skin. Now he didn't ban Christmas but he did strictly prohibit newspapers from mentioning it. He once said Christmas is nothing more than the 25th of December. Okay. Alright. I mean he's not wrong.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It is the 25th of December. He saw Christmas as a distraction and just like a total waste of time. So he decided he was going to replace traditional holidays with new ones that lined up more with his fascist agenda. He wanted something less Christmas and more… folksy? But you know it had to be something very Italian. So he finds like the perfect person to replace Santa
Starting point is 00:31:50 or like a perfect mascot, something known in Italy as La Baffana. According to Italian folklore, La Baffana was a witch who brought gifts to good children and lumps of coal to naughty children on January 6th. Which is kind of weird cause it's like, still kind of like Christmas, right? But okay.
Starting point is 00:32:09 It was like a non-religious Christmas, okay? Cause you know, he hates, he hates all that. He hates everything, really. Anyways, life under Mussolini was becoming no fun. It wasn't fun, people were not liking it. And this is when the reality of life under a dictatorship starts to set in for a lot of people. There were more of his spies than ever and violence was everywhere. He once said, we do not
Starting point is 00:32:35 argue with those who disagree with us. We destroy them. Oh yeah. I think I've seen bumper stickers like that before. Oh god. Yeah, so things are just not great. And when he originally was like gone to the office or whatever, you know, the government, he told the Italian people that he would expand the country. And so he decided to invade Ethiopia. Ethiopia. Yeah, I know. I was like, what? What? What? Well, listen, again, it's complicated, but I'll simplify it for you. I mean, technically, he wanted to do it because the government tried to get Ethiopia once before and failed and it was considered like an embarrassment to the country. So he wanted to get Ethiopia to kind of prove to everyone that he could do it. And then also, like, I think they wanted the land and stuff because
Starting point is 00:33:28 it was going to make good crops and whatnot. But really, I think he just wanted to do it because, you know, he wanted to expand, obviously, Italy's power. And they continued to like build an empire. So he ends up doing it. And the invasion of Ethiopia was absolutely brutal. There were like countless deaths, according to the Ethiopian government, ends up doing it and the invasion of Ethiopia was absolutely brutal. There were like countless deaths. According to the Ethiopian government almost 400,000
Starting point is 00:33:50 civilians were killed. Mussolini had his people bomb villages and used mustard gas attacks. He destroyed entire villages and farms and the Italians even set up concentration camps in Ethiopia. I mean it was awful. It was brutal and a lot of people died. I mean even the animals they weren't safe. It's like two million horses, shit ton of cows. I think like six million cows, seven million sheep and goats. And it wasn't because he hated animals. It was because he wanted the Ethiopians to starve. So this invasion led to major loss of life and had a lot of people realizing that maybe life under El-Duche wasn't what he promised. Between 1925 and 1926 there were four assassination attempts on Mussolini's life and you know there are people I mean yeah the anger
Starting point is 00:34:44 towards Mussolini was definitely growing people definitely wanted to see are people I mean yeah the anger towards Mussolini was definitely growing. People definitely wanted to see him killed. I mean he was he was responsible for a lot of lives lost and even though there were people who were trying to kill him there were still others who were absolutely obsessed with him. One of Mussolini's biggest fans was a girl named Clara Pitacci and she would write him fan letters all the time. So Clara is writing him for a few years and she's not getting any response.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And then there was this one day where she's driving down some road and she realizes that Mussolini had just like passed her car. So she gets her driver to turn around and follow him. So eventually the cars both stop and Clara she yells out to Moosey who's in the other car. She's like, yeah hi yo I've been riding to you since I was a teenager. I'm imagining that's how she's, hey Moosey eat my pussy. She's like I'm imagining that's how she's, hey, Moosey, eat my pussy. She's like, I'm your biggest fan. And you know, Mussolini, he likes to have his ego stroked.
Starting point is 00:35:51 He likes the attention. He likes a pretty lady. And before you know it, the two of them are having a sexual love affair. At the time, Claire is only like 20, and Mooseyoussy is like 49 so could be your dad. The affair is like pretty hot and heavy you know she's like having sex with him almost daily at his office in Rome. I don't know where um his actual wife was but he was banging. Anyways so over in Germany Hitler was about to make Mussolini regret
Starting point is 00:36:26 ignoring his fan mail. By 1933, Hitler was the chancellor of Germany. So he was in full control of the country. And on the day that he was sworn into office, Hitler writes a note to Mussolini. He basically says like, thank you for the inspo, couldn't have done it without you, BB, we have to get together soon. LOL. Yeah so he's trying to get Mussolini's attention
Starting point is 00:36:51 and Mussolini is just not into it. He's not into it. He's like this dude's weird, he's like obsessed with me. You know? Maybe he felt threatened, maybe he was jealous because Hitler was now getting a lot of attention because at this point people were not liking Mussolini like they used to. They were, I mean, people were kind of, Hitler was like taken to the limelight now. At the end of the day, Hitler and Mussolini basically had the same political beliefs.
Starting point is 00:37:15 They both left violence and death. They both were ugly. They both were dictators. They both like killed a lot. They just had a lot in common. So, you know, it's just kind of weird. You think they'd be best friends. You really think they'd be like, yeah, I thought they would be. So a few months later, Mussolini gives a speech saying that Italy and Germany have the same goals.
Starting point is 00:37:37 So he decides like, Hey, if I can't beat him, I might as well join them. You know, so in September, 1937, Mussolini goes to Germany to meet Hitler. And it's like a really big deal. Like hundreds of thousands of people are there to greet, to greet him and just like, what? I don't know. They're just like stoked.
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Starting point is 00:39:28 Personal styling for everyone get started today at stitch fix comm slash dark history at stitch fix comm Dark history So Hitler had promised Mousi that he wouldn't invade Czechos Czechoslovakia. Oh, you know, I can't pronounce words. Anyways, he told him he wasn't invade Czechoslovakia. You know I can't pronounce words. Anyways he told him he wasn't gonna invade Czechoslovakia. Thank you so much. And he ended up doing it a month later.
Starting point is 00:39:55 So, uh oh. But you know, Hitler, he decides to invade it anyways. And he didn't give Mussolini a heads up. So Mussolini is pretty pissed off because they made a pact and I'm like, what? He went behind his back and did that and it was confusing. So it's like, does this guy like me? Does he hate me?
Starting point is 00:40:14 I'm confused. But Musalini pretends like no big deal. I'm not bothered. Everything's fine. And then Hitler decides to invade Poland. Now again, he had promised Musi that he was not going to do that. So Musi is like, what the fuck? What is this guy doing? Like I'm so confused.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Hitler's doing this and it's not making him look weak. His own government starts to think that he's like Hitler's kind of like little bitch. Well Hitler's doing this and around the same time Italy loses control of North Africa. So now to a lot of people all of that death and destruction happened for no freaking reason. So after this, Mussolini was more unpopular than ever. This was his worst nightmare. His own people started to blame him for the weak turn the country was taking.
Starting point is 00:41:19 By 1943 it's becoming more and more clear which way World War II was going to end and Italy here they had a sense that they were gonna be on the losing side. So around midnight on July 25th the Fascist Grand Council voted Mussolini out of office. Yes, one of the big reasons was because it was clear that Mussolini's alliance with Nazi Germany was not a great move. There were major economic problems happening in Italy, like food shortages, there were bombings, and widespread suffering. Many saw Mussolini as a liability rather than an asset, and they believed if he stayed in charge, it would lead Italy to more destruction. But as the council voted I guess Mussolini just like sat there and like didn't say anything. I mean honestly
Starting point is 00:42:09 he's kind of defeated at this point everything that had gone to shit. Now after this meeting Mussolini was sent to see the king. This time the king stands up for himself and dismissed Mussolini as prime minister. And then to top it all off, Mussolini was arrested, finally ending his 21 year rule. Now you think it ends there, but it doesn't. Cause going to prison was bad news for Mussolini. Cause this is the prison,
Starting point is 00:42:38 like all the prisons are filled with people who hated him. Because anytime anyone like spoke up badly about Mussolini, they'd be like arrested, in jail whatever so he was going to prison with all those people well but then because the story never ends out of nowhere Hitler comes to his rescue Hitler uses multiple planes to send in dozens of soldiers to break Mussolini out of prison. Now Hitler, he had like some kind of like bigger plans. He wants to set Mussolini up as like his puppet
Starting point is 00:43:18 controlling the Northern part of Italy. So he does just that. He puts Mussolini in charge of Northern Italy to keep it simple. And it really looks like he's in charge again, but really Hitler was the one pulling the strings and like telling him what to do. And Mussolini kind of like had to because this guy just like bailed him out of prison. So it was like, oh, fuck, you know, Mussolini gave speeches and tried to play the part. But if he didn't do a convincing job then Hitler would evade the rest of Italy so it's law pressure for Mussolini here he would be the one like responsible for
Starting point is 00:43:54 everything you know eventually Mussolini realizes that this whole arrangement is not going to work it's not gonna work out for him. So he decides the only thing he can do is like get out of Italy. So he decides he's gonna freaking make a run for it. Leave the country. Get the fuck out of there. So he and his mistress Clara, the fangirl, yeah they're soul fucking. They decide to run away together and leave everything behind. So the way that they're gonna do it is they were gonna dress up as German officers, okay, blend in a little bit and then get the fuck out like in the middle of the night and no one would know because they look like German officers. So their goal was to get to the Swiss border and to them it was like the perfect plan. The only thing
Starting point is 00:44:43 they had to do was like not get caught. I wonder how they got the outfits. I don't know. But they did. So on April 27th, 1945, Mussolini and Clara reached Lake Como when suddenly they were recognized. Oh yes. It's over baby. They get caught, they're in trouble. The people who caught them sentenced them all to death. So the following afternoon on April 28th, Mussolini and Clara were executed. He was 61 years old. Pretty crazy, like they just like executed them
Starting point is 00:45:24 and it was like the end. No last words. No. So now the wild part, the wild part is that their bodies were taken to Milan and left in the town square where, you know, the town square is where like everyone goes, right? So the people or whoever the officers, the executors, the people in charge, they hang Mussolini and Clara's bodies, their dead bodies upside down in the town square. And there's like some other people with them as well,
Starting point is 00:45:59 cause they were also caught with the group, these two. So they're all hanging upside down. Now the Italian citizens use this moment to like take out their anger. They treated their bodies like a pinata. Oh yes, they spit on Mussolini's lifeless body. They threw things at him. They tried to get the candy out of him.
Starting point is 00:46:22 You know what I'm saying? Just beating the crap out of his body. It was nuts. It was nuts. Then his body was like taken down from this situation they built to hang him. And then people like stomped on him, stomped on his face.
Starting point is 00:46:36 His face was completely like caved in. They beat him with the ends of their guns. Oh, the people were pissed and they did not hold back. Everyone got a turn. I mean, by this point, over one million people had died because of Mussolini. His policies, his pointless wars, and the violence he stirred up caused all this death. So people were mad and they let him know or let his body know. Mussolini's body was mutilated so badly that it became almost unrecognizable. Finally, American troops stepped in and ordered the bodies to be sent to the morgue. And then whatever was left of the dictator was buried in an unmarked grave.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Now Rochelle, Mussolini's wife, she survived the war on her own just fine. And years and years go by. And then one day in like 1966, I know I would love to get a word from her, like girl, what was up with your man? And why did you support all that? Anyways, but one day in 1966, she's minding her own business when an envelope is delivered to her home or whatever.
Starting point is 00:47:51 She's like, Oh my God, what is this? It's not my birthday. She opens it up and inside was a piece of human brain. And it was like, what? And she finds out that it was actually a piece of Mussolini's brain. So she finds out that apparently like American soldiers they had taken part of his brain to be studied. Scientists want to know what the brain of a vicious dictator looked like and like if
Starting point is 00:48:17 there was anything different with it really right? Like does a dictator have a different kind of brain? Let's study it. Um yeah so they did. And then they sent it back to her. But they were also curious to see whether he had syphilis, you know? I don't know, maybe that caused him to go crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:33 I guess like syphilis can like impact your decision making. So maybe him, Stalin, Hitler, maybe they all had syphilis. At the end of the day the syphilis results were inconclusive but the Washington Post said in an article that the brain, his brain, was quote average. So I don't know if that's good or bad. I kind of want there to be something fucked up with his brain because then we could all point to something and be like see Yeah, makes sense but
Starting point is 00:49:08 average Thank you for tuning in to today's episode on Benito Mussolini His rise to power, rain and downfall offer us a valuable lesson about the dangers of unchecked authority and the consequences of Fascism, you know as we look back on history, it's crucial to remember its impact on the present. Now, it feels like Mussolini isn't a dictator we know that much about compared to Hitler or Stalin. Especially when the guy in charge is an... I mean, they're always egomaniacs, you know? They're always... you have to be an egomaniac to be a dictator.
Starting point is 00:49:45 My god. The insane oppression Mussolini forced on the Italian people created generations of trauma that people are still feeling today. So even though he gets swept under the rug and he's considered like only the number 13 on the list of deadliest mass murders, Mussolini is still like a super important cautionary tale. Well friends, that is the TLDR of Mussolini. What does TLDR
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Starting point is 00:50:50 back in the new year on January 8th so come back because that will be the dark history of diabetes. Thanks for hanging out with me today. You can join me over on my YouTube where you can watch these episodes on Thursday after the podcast airs. Hi! And while you're there you can also catch my murder mystery and makeup. Now before we leave let's read a couple of comments you guys left me. StarGroomer88, that's a questionable name. What does that mean? Sorry, let me get over your username. I'm sure you're great. So I just jumped on the Bailey bandwagon and I've no- I've been here since 2013, where you been?
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Starting point is 00:52:58 an episode about the Vietnam War? Ooh, that's a topic I feel like I need to know more about. Honestly though, if you want to sit and read the dictionary, I would still tune in. Millie! You know, we've had a lot of requests to cover the Vietnam War and we've talked about it a ton on the show and I don't know why we've never done it, but we should. I think this is my sign. And thank you for the suggestion.
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