Dear Hank & John - 38: The Smelling in Your Dwelling
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Hello and welcome to Dear Hank a John.
Norse I prefer to think of it dear John and Hank.
It's a comedy podcast for me and my brother John, answer your questions, give you a dubious
advice and bring you all the week's news from both Mars and AFC Wimbledon and how you
do in John.
I'm doing well, I'm just back from Northern Jordan where I spent the last few days visiting refugee camps and Syrian refugees who are living in
cities. In Jordan most of the over 600,000 refugees from the Syrian war living in Jordan are
living not in camps but in cities. It was a fascinating trip, very emotionally exhausting. At times, very difficult, but also,
I feel really, really lucky to have been able to go and to have been able to hear some of the
stories of refugees, their families, and also stories from people living in Jordan about how the refugee crisis has
reshaped their country since 10% of all people living in Jordan right now are Syrian refugees,
more than a quarter of people living in Lebanon right now are Syrian refugees.
The scope of the problem is truly overwhelming.
And I think it was really important to me to be able to go there to get a human sense of
it, to be able to see it not in terms of hundreds of thousands and millions and big statistics,
but instead in terms of actual people.
That is fantastic.
And I am really impressed that you did it.
You sound a little bit ill.
Am I making that up? No. No, you're not. I am ill. I drank a lot of tap water and chai and coffee in the camps.
You know, when families offer you food and water and tea, it's important to say yes, especially because you know these are
people who in many cases are only have about 70 cents per day for food and other necessities.
And so you know they're sharing that with you is really important, but of course the water
is not not always super clean.
I also ate some delicious filafel sandwiches with pita bread at the
Zotri refugee camp and might have gotten sick from that. But I also had an amazing pizza
at Zotri. So I could have gotten sick from that. And I had fil an amazing pizza at Zaatri.
So I could have gotten sick from that.
And I had a falafel sandwich at the Auzraq refugee camp.
So I could have gotten sick from that.
It's hard to pinpoint exactly how it happened, Hank,
but the point is it happened.
All right, well, I'm sorry.
But I do thank you for doing that.
I'm really looking forward to hearing more
of the stories coming out of that,
which you were posting on your Tumblr.
And also I hope we'll see in a video next week.
Yeah, Rosieanna gave me my Tumblr password back after almost a year so that I could share
some of the stories from the people we met.
I think, however, that she's going to have to go ahead and take my password back pretty
shortly after I'm done posting
this series of posts.
You can check out my Tumblr phishingbookproceeds.tumblr.com to meet some of the people I met.
But yeah, I think I'm also going to be making videos about it for the next few weeks.
I have to say Hank, before we start the proper podcast, and I ask you how you're doing,
I made a mistake in our previous video by saying that Frank Lundellino Roosevelt packed the
court with extra Supreme Court justices.
Instead, he just threatened to pack the court with extra Supreme Court justices.
Another place where my knowledge of American history pretty sketchy.
So I apologize.
Now, how are you doing?
I'm good. I'm a little overwhelmed after my vacation, just catching up on everything.
We just had our SciShow Patreon livestream where we increased SciShow's Patreon budget by
more than 20%. Thank you very much to all the people who helped us out with that.
That's a huge part of how we're able to kind of keep things running around here is the
support that people show us on Patreon to a SciShow and Crash Course.
That's awesome.
That was very exciting.
And yeah, I've been working long days.
I shot 10 Sci side shows this week,
which is a lot, and I have a quite an intense day today
that I, but after that, after, you know, we hit five o'clock,
I will be, it will be the weekend.
We're recording this on Friday,
and I will be able to not for a couple of days.
I got some stuff that I'll have to do this this weekend, but I don't have
anything on the schedule.
And it's very, very exciting.
Well, I'm very happy for you.
I hope you have a relaxing weekend.
Hank, would you like a short poem for the day?
Sure.
All right.
I picked a short poem today from a Syrian poet, Nizar Kobani.
This is called Light is more important than the lantern.
It's translated by Bifranj and C. Brown. I don't know who those people are, but Light is more
important than the lantern by Nizar Kobani. Light is more important than the lantern. The poem
more important than the notebook and the kiss more important than the notebook, and the kiss more important than the lips. My letters to you are greater and more important than both
of us. They are the only documents where people will discover your beauty and my madness.
Light is more important than the lantern by Nazar Kabani.
That was lovely. Can I tell you one story about my trip to Northern Jordan?
Please do.
One of the things that really struck me was that was the separation of families.
I've been to very poor parts of the world before,
but I've never been to a place where there was so much dislocation and separation.
And I don't think I ever really understood it.
And I certainly still don't understand.
But I'd never really glimpsed before the extent of that trauma.
And one of the things that I saw over and over and over again is that when people would
talk about their relatives who'd been killed in the war or who were in Germany or who were
in Turkey or who were still in Syria.
But for whatever reason, they were separated, many in many cases, you know, husbands and
wives who'd been separated for years, brothers and sisters who hadn't seen each other in
five years, stories like that.
I would ask if they had pictures of their family members.
And I would show them pictures of Henry and Alice and Sarah.
And then they almost always did have pictures,
but they almost never had them printed out
or backed up in any way.
They just had them on their phones.
Sometimes, in many cases, they're old phones
because the pictures were so old, were years old,
and in the interim, they've gotten new, better phones.
And so I would see again and again these pictures
of family members, grainy pictures on phones
that were the only kind of surviving copy,
the only physical connection between aside from memory.
And it was really interesting and moving to me that we've
moved to a place where digital memories are sometimes the only memories. And that you have these old
devices that are kind of unsafe places to keep these things. Yeah. Because you never know what's gonna happen to one of those.
And you're just sort of holding them
and keeping them charged so that you can continue
to have access to your photos.
Right, yeah, that's the only thing that most of the people
I talk to use them for is to look at pictures,
to share pictures with their young kids,
I think because a lot of times, you know,
little kids forget the faces of their parents or of their older brothers who may be in Europe or might have
died in the war. It was a very sobering experience for sure. And, you know, I hope that I can
tell some of the stories effectively, because I think it's so important to counter
the narratives about refugees
that we see this sort of xenophobic narratives
that we hear especially in the West.
Indeed. I've got a first question
that is in reference to that from Parker.
Great.
Who is working in Lesvos, Greece, with refugees from Syria and Iraq and Afghanistan in so many
other places.
And when I call home or post on my blog or Facebook, I get a lot of mixed reactions.
Many of them hostile.
This is probably due to the culture that I call home, the South, the American South,
I assume.
There are so many people who have hostility towards these hurting people and I want to help them understand that these are not ISIS members, they're families who have lost
so much and are searching for a better life.
Any dubious advice on how to help others emphasize empathize would be appreciated.
Well, I do think we have a huge empathy gap when it comes to the refugee experience, whether
it's Syria or Iraq, Afghanistan, South Sudan, wherever
it is, because it's difficult for us to imagine.
And also, I asked a lot of refugees about this while I was in Jordan.
I said, what would you say to Americans who are concerned about ISIS or concerned about, you know, that you might be radical
or that you might have something against the United States.
The thing that struck me the most was that people were not angry at the United States,
at least the people I spoke to, they were very grateful because while UNHCR, the UN's
refugee agency is critically underfunded, The US has stepped up more than many
countries and refugees are keenly aware of that. So I found that really interesting. But what
I heard again and again was people saying, you're right, there are,
like there are in Syria and Iraq,
members of ISIS who wish destruction upon me,
which is why I'm not in Syria anymore,
which is why I had to leave.
And especially, I heard this especially from young men,
because I told, every time I had a chance
to talk to an adult, like a, say, 20 to 35-year-old adult man, I said, you know, one of the things
that we hear a lot in the United States is that this is no longer true, but it used to
be true that most of the refugees coming to Europe were, were adult men. And how do you feel about people saying you
should be in Iraq, in Iraq or in Syria, fighting ISIS or fighting for your country's freedom?
And their response was, that's not how it worked, you know, how it worked was, you were conscripted
into an army that does not reflect your belief or your value system
under punishment of death or murder of your family members.
It's not a question of fighting for freedom.
It's a question of not being conscripted into an army that's trying to,
that if you don't go, they'll kill people in your family.
And the truth is that while there have been crimes committed
by asylum seekers in Europe,
and while there have been crimes committed by refugees
in the US in the past, not Syrian refugees so far as I know,
but it has happened, they're crimes, and Syrian refugees so far as I know, but it has happened.
They're crimes and they should be prosecuted as crimes
and they should not be seen as reflective
of some entire community.
The same way that I wouldn't want the actions
of the young white man who murdered people
in an African-American church while they were at worship
to be reflective of me as a white person.
So we have to prosecute crimes as crimes and not as reflective of some larger failure of
an entire people.
Yeah.
As we get deeper into this election season, it's going to be harder and harder not to talk
about politics and to think about these things in the lens of the election here in America,
because it's very difficult for me not to immediately think of the implications and sort of
like how this works psychologically, which is that we are prone to being afraid of things
that we don't understand. If people we don't understand, if people who are different from us,
and even in small ways, even if those differences are quite small.
And that in order, the best way to get support as a candidate is to make people afraid.
That's what gets people more than any other emotion.
That's what gets people to take actions.
And even if that action is to get up and go vote, then fear is a great motivator.
And I am seeing more and more of this is not really about any legitimate, credible, scary
thing.
There are scary things that happen, but of course, there are lots of different ways that
people get hurt and injured and have their lives become worse.
And, you know, we're not particularly good at judging those threats as humans.
That we are really good at being afraid of other people who we see as not like us or who we see
might be trying to take advantage of us or worse. And that fear mongering is so much more powerful than hope
mongering than thinking about,
like feeling the connection between all humans
and knowing that these people more than anyone
in the world need help right now. And it's very unpleasant to watch how the conversation
is progressing in America.
So as far as Parker's actual question goes, I don't even know.
I just hope that people can find fear to be not the emotion to grasp onto and to make such an important part of how they
see the world.
Yeah, Parker, the only thing that I would say in addition to that is to keep telling
these people's stories because they don't have access to the same platforms that you do
in most cases. In most cases, they same platforms that you do in most cases.
In most cases, they can't write in English in most cases. They don't have the kind of internet
access that allows them to tell their own stories. So quote their stories, tell their stories,
share their stories, and many people will react negatively to that. Many people will doubt your
sincerity or their sincerity, but at least it gives them something of a voice
in this conversation because I think one of the biggest
problems right now is that we hear a lot about
what Donald Trump thinks of Islam,
but not a lot about what Muslims think of Islam.
And so I think just share those stories
and keep up your good work.
We're grateful for it.
Yeah, thank you Parker.
And thank you John for helping share those stories
and helping us bridge that empathy gap.
We have another question.
This one is from Miss D, who asks,
dear Hank and John, it's a little, it's a problem,
but it is a smaller problem.
I'm a middle school teacher, and I love my students.
My biggest complaint I have about them
is they leave a trail of half-empty water bottles behind them wherever they go. There are currently
three half-empty water bottles in my room right now, and I try to encourage reusable water
bottles with their name written in Sharpie, but there are just 11 years old, and they have
whatever their parents send them to school with. I feel bad, not just about the wasted
plastic, but the water. I drink a lot of tea,
and I'm really tempted to just put all that extra water
I find into my electric tea kettle
and boil the heck out of it.
And then make,
will that get rid of all the child germs?
Or should I just find a plant to water them with?
I mean, as someone who currently has a probable case of dysentery, I am inclined to get the
plant, Misty.
Um, yeah, I mean, I, first of all, if you do, if you boil the water and make tea out of
it, it will indeed kill those weird child germs, but you, uh, to kill all of them.
I'm not really concerned about you killing
all of them, because I think probably none of your children in class have cholera, but
you might still get sick.
It's not unless you boil it for like 10 minutes or something, which is just energy efficient,
and you don't want that.
Yeah, as long as you boil it for 5 to 10 minutes, you should actually be fine. And that's coming from someone who's generally,
you know, a little bit cautious on these topics.
But I think it's fine in theory.
There's just something about it in practice
that I find worse.
Yeah, and also I think if you end up boiling that water
for longer than usual, the energy that you're using
to do that is probably going to offset any energy you save
by saving the water.
But the other thing I'd say is that is probably going to offset any energy you save by saving the water. But the other thing I'd say is,
that is so annoying.
And it is annoying for me because of the plastic,
not because of the water.
You know, obviously the water waste is something
but it is not substantial.
And if they drink it,
they probably wouldn't get that much out of it anyway.
They'd probably just peel a little more next time
they went to the bathroom.
But I mean, I know a guy who will go nameless
who leaves half empty bottles of Diet Dr. Pepper
all over the world.
And I find it a little bit frustrating.
It is.
To be like,
to be like,
why did you just open,
why did you just open a new bottle of Diet Dr. Pepper
when there is clearly one right there that is half empty?
I mean, they just taste so great when they're fresh.
There's just nothing like that first sip of a diet, Dr. Pepper.
Oh my god.
Speaking of which, Hank.
But what do I have to do to get sponsored by diet, Dr. Pepper?
I am the greatest spokesperson they have ever had.
I don't know, John.
Maybe someone listening is in the marketing department
at Dr. Pepper Enterprises, which is, I believe.
By the way, I'm enjoying a delicious diet,
Dr. Pepper right now.
I'm sure you are.
I believe that Dr. Pepper is a separate company
from Pepsi and Coke, is that correct?
That is correct, yes, they are their own entity.
That's crazy.
There's nothing like diet, Dr. Pepper,
it's unique in the world.
Yeah, that's very interesting.
You know, Dr. Pepper has its own bottled water.
There's like Aquafina and Dessani
are the Pepsi and Coke ones.
And then there's a separate Dr. Pepper bottled water,
which I ran into in an airport when I was thirsty.
And I felt bad about it, don't worry.
But I did not have my reusable water bottle with me.
But yeah, I think that you should take an entire lesson
out of your week and just pack the other four days
full of the stuff you would normally teach on that Wednesday.
And then on Wednesday, you say,
we're gonna have a special class,
and today we're gonna talk about reuse and recycling,
and how the future generations will see us
as the most profligate, wasteful bunch of turds
that ever existed on the surface of the planet,
and how did we squander our wonderful,
wonderful level of excess that we had in America in the
21st century?
Oh, by tossing water bottles when they were half empty.
That's your lecture for you.
Rub it all in there, 11-year-old faces.
Make them feel that guilt.
Oh, man.
Our comedy podcast finally got briefly funny.
Okay, Hank, we've got another question.
This one comes from Nick who writes,
Dear Hank John, if understand what me say
when speak English bad, why need speak English good?
You know, this is a great question.
And I was thinking about it.
I was thinking about it a lot while I was eating breakfast
and reading these questions.
And, you know, honestly, I think a lot of the reason is how much information we pack,
not into just what we say, but how we say it.
And I don't mean like, how you say it, like, get up there and be a good public speaker.
I mean, the way that we talk says a lot, like, it is a way that we judge each other.
And so I'm not saying that this is a good thing.
I'm saying that it is a thing.
That when we speak correctly, people think more highly of us.
I would agree, except that I would say that there is no such
actual thing as speaking correctly.
As correctly.
Yes.
Yes.
So we speak in a certain way that sounds like the way that,
yes.
Right.
That sentence, by the way, was undiagrammable, and therefore technically incorrect.
So my argument about this, Nick, is that I understood what you meant when in your question,
but it wasn't as clear to me as quickly as it would have been if you'd said,
if people understand me when I speak English poorly, why should I speak English well?
And so for me, grammar and language
is not only about overall comprehension,
it's also about the speed at which that comprehension
can happen, because that means that we can have
sort of a more transparent conversation.
Like language ultimately should be completely transparent,
in my opinion, at least.
It should just be sort of the sound waves
through which ideas travel between people.
And every time we make that less clear,
or we make it in some way opaque, we're doing damage
to the quality of conversation that you and I can have together.
And so that's my argument for, if not grammatically correct English or the King's English or
whatever, at least a shared agreed upon English. That in the end is all I think that really matters, is that we agree upon like what language,
what kind of language choices we're going to make so that when we have conversations or
when we're reading, we can do so with clarity.
Well, I don't want to, I don't want to spend too much time on this question, but what
about like the way that people create new languages?
If we say that we want maximum clarity,
then what we're saying is we want one universal structured
English that is all the same and everybody speaks the same
English, but what does that take away from new versions
of English or accented Englishes or new ways of speaking?
Well, no, I don't think we want one version of English that everyone speaks, because I don't
think that we necessarily want everyone to understand us when we're speaking, right?
So like, I think there are, that's one of the reasons that we change language is so that
people, people who we don't want to understand us, one understand us.
Another reason we change language, and I think this is a very cool and interesting reason,
is because the language that exists does not do a good job of describing our experience.
So we can create words or phrases that will do a better job, and that will all sort of
immediately understand, or a certain group anyway will immediately understand
the meaning of because it just sounds right
or it feels right or whatever.
So I'm not against in any way,
I'm not opposed to language changing.
I think it should change,
but I think it should be,
as transparent as possible when you're having a conversation.
All right, we got another question just from Jordica who asks,
dear Hank and John, Hank believes that you can, I, that you can learn a lot about someone
by their favorite bridge. I think the way a person's house smells says a lot.
Fess up. What's the smelling in your dwelling?
Hank only asked that question because he liked the rhyme at the end.
Well, yes, partially. I think that there is a lovely thing
about a well-constructed question
that has a nice little rhyme.
But also, I wanted to talk about death for this question
because the smelling in my dwelling
is very depressingly non-smelling
because it's not full of dogfarts anymore, John.
I walk in every day and I'm like,
I'm like, not only is there
not a happy waggy thing there to say, hey, there's also not that smell. Never that smell.
Yeah, it is funny. I mean, the people and animals in your house sort of make up the way
you smell it and when it doesn't smell like that, it doesn't feel like your house. I'm
sorry about that Hank. I don't know what the smelling in my house is,
precisely because it's the smell in my house,
but I know if it changes.
So I'm sure that if I walked in and Willie suddenly weren't there,
I would sense his absence in an ol' factory manner.
It's weird, not something that you think about until it's not there.
But yeah, my house does not smell a great deal. It's weird, not something that you think about until it's not there. But yeah, my house does not smell a great deal.
It's fairly new.
But I go back to Florida and I'm like, everything smells like mold.
And then my face starts to explode.
Because apparently I didn't realize how allergic I was to mold until I left Florida and was
like, oh, I can breathe.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Wonderful.
Oh man.
Florida.
It's so Florida-y.
It's so Florida-y.
All right, I think we have another question.
This one comes from Mary who writes,
dear John and Hank,
some people have for whatever reason
started to believe that the earth is actually flat.
After years of evidence suggesting it is round,
not just years, really millennia, really longer than millennia,
really billions of years of evidence suggesting that it is round.
Obviously, the earth is round.
I strongly agree, Mary.
I'm glad that we could start from that point.
But it got me wondering, what would life be like if the earth were flat?
How would it be different?
And just so you can mention death in the podcast, would we all die?
Thanks for the opportunity to mention death, Mary.
Of course we would all die.
Yes!
Yes, we would all die if the Earth were flat.
We would all die in the process of it becoming round.
What?
Well, yeah, because if you had a flat Earth,
it would like, if you had the mass of the Earth stretched out at a flat disk or whatever shape you want,
it would coalesce via gravity, it would break apart,
and form a sphere.
Oh yeah, so we would all die.
Everything would die, and then the earth would have to reform,
and then you'd have to go through all 4.5 billion years
of the earth's history before you had anything,
even approaching the level of interestingness of this podcast.
So, so that's what would happen.
Hank, are you at all fascinated by conspiracy theories along the lines of the
earth is actually flat? Or do you just find them ludicrous? Or like, or like, there's
the, or there's the Cyberman Earth on the other side of the Sun
that's just matching our orbit and we never can see it.
Oh, no, that's real.
I believe that planet has a name,
but I can't remember its name.
It was, I think it was Maloria.
Maloria, of course, yeah.
Maloria is real, we just can't see it.
Yeah, I, I, you know, there is one
that I am kind of fascinated by.
It's called the Shadow Microbiome.
No, the shadow, the shadow biosphere, the shadow biosphere.
That's what it's called.
And it's the idea that there is a whole other biosphere
on Earth that we do not know about and can't detect
because it doesn't use the same chemistry
as the life that we know about.
So does this idea basically that like if we, if we go to Mars, life could be so different that we know about. So it's this idea basically that like if we go to Mars,
life could be so different that we wouldn't even know
it existed because none of the systems we use
for testing for life would work on it.
And so if that's possible, then why isn't there
a possibility that here on Earth,
there are a bunch of microorganisms
that don't have mitochondria, they don't use DNA,
they don't use any of the same proteins we use.
And so when we do tests to see if there are living things,
we're like, well, nothing there,
but maybe there is something alive there.
It's just so different that we cannot tell
that there's a living thing there.
Now, I don't think that this is actually a thing that is real.
I don't think that the shadow microbi-
the shadow bi-
I don't think that the shadow biosphere is real.
I think that it, like, there is a tiny, tiny, tiny chance
that it could be, and that is fascinating.
Well, but this would just be microscopic organisms, right?
This wouldn't be, like a whole simulation.
You're right, yes, no, I mean, there are like shadow dogs.
A shadow biosphere that had like dogs in it,
we would see them.
Okay.
They would reflect, they would still absorb and reflect light.
Right, so just to confirm here, what you're telling me
is that it's possible that in addition to half of my body
being bacteria, another half of my body
could be organisms that I just don't know our life.
Yeah.
The good news is they really probably could not do any damage to you if they were based
on completely different chemistry.
They would see you as maybe a source of water, maybe a source of warmth, but it would be
very difficult for them to interact with any of your biological systems because of
how different they would be.
Can I tell you my favorite conspiracy theory?
All right, go.
There is a conspiracy theory on the internet.
You can Google it that Stephen Hawking,
the theoretical physicist, was replaced by a different Stephen Hawking
in about 1985.
That's real weird.
And there are lots and lots and lots of people who believe it.
And the amount of research that they have done into it is horrifying and it's
just a very strange corner of the internet.
I'm always fascinated by the strange corners of the internet if not always encouraged by
them, but that is one of the stranger ones I have come across.
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with a finger, yet somehow the impact of a flick
does not kill them.
Can you explain these superhero insects to me?
I cannot, but I bet Hank can.
I can, I can.
Basically, flick something really small,
bug sized, like a piece of crust,
which I have on my desk, which I just flicked,
and then flick your desk.
Flick something hard that's not gonna move.
You will feel a difference between the thing
that happened to your finger.
You will feel that the flicking of the flea
of the piece of dust did not hurt.
The flicking, you don't even wanna do it.
Do you're like, oh, I'm not going to flicking something hard.
So what's happening is, you know, force, which is the thing
that's going to kill the bug, is mass times acceleration.
And when you are pushing on a bug, your mass, the amount
of mass that you are transferring is gigantic.
When you're flicking a bug, the only mass involved
isn't the mass of you.
It's the mass of the bug, which is very small.
Now, if you flick a big bug,
if you flick like a tarantula in the face, don't do that,
or you flick like a horse fly,
you could kill that bug,
because it's like flicking something hard and big,
and you're gonna transfer all of that kinetic energy
into the bug,
whereas, and into the mass of that bug. So you're
going to get a large force. But if you're flicking like a net or something, then that force
is very small because the mass of the net is very small, which allows them to live through
very significant changes in acceleration.
Well, that is just fascinating. I'm so grateful for this lesson in physics.
All right. I do have another one that I wanted to get to, which is from Grace.
Grace asks, dear Hank and John, over the last few years, I've gained a greater confidence
in myself.
However, my family has increasingly begun to refer to this confidence as narcissism.
How do I sustain this confidence without becoming narcissistic?
Is narcissism necessarily a bad thing?
And if so, where is the line between confidence
in oneself and narcissism?
Any advice, especially do be his advice,
which would be much appreciated.
Oh, man, yeah, that's a difficult question.
I think ultimately, if people are telling you
that you have a problem with narcissism,
you should probably listen to them.
I mean, I don't think that confidence and narcissism
are mutually exclusive. Do you think?
No, I do think that they are different things though.
I'll be honest with you, John.
But yeah, that's what I was just saying.
I've been thinking about this question all morning
because there's such, we need this.
We need to feel valued and valuable to be humans.
But at the same time, there is definitely this thing
where I really don't like people who feel that in a way
and like have the source of that be something
that I find unpleasant.
And I think that a lot of times narcissism is in fact when the source of your confidence
is either, I think in the best-case scenario, it's something that you don't, like people
see is something you don't deserve.
So if you are very powerful and wealthy and you feel very confident because of your wealth,
then it's like, well, but you were just born wealthy,
then that's very strange. That's like saying, I'm better than other people because I have this
thing that other people don't have. And maybe there's an element of that. Is your confidence
in you being better than other people, or is your confidence in comparison to you, and how you
feel you are, you like achieving for yourself
what you feel like are the right things for a person to be.
And I think that that confidence is a wonderful thing, but that means that confidence and being
humble are not like are completely like you can be both of those things at the same time.
Whereas, yeah, I think that there's a way to be confident
and also to be so confident that you're kind of
reveling in it and maybe reveling in it
a kind of confidence in a thing that you maybe
aren't even responsible for,
that it can be really off-putting to people.
I think that was a great answer, Hank.
I'm not going to try to add to it.
I do, do however want to
answer one more question before we get
to the news from marz a cold dead rock in space and a fc winbledon
the greatest achievement in the history of human cannot i cannot believe it's time for that already it can
be time for that already this question comes from Rachel who asks dear john and hank
why is it that whenever money is shown on TV or in the movies, it is so obviously fake?
Not just large amounts, but even single-dollar bills. I can understand not wanting to use real money on set
but it seems to me like the props department goes out of its way to make the money not look real.
So, I think that you might actually be mistaken
because sometimes I have seen real money used on movie sets in paper
towns. They use real money just like a couple dollar bills. When it's one dollar bills,
I think they tend to use real money. When it's large amounts of money, they do use fake
money. And do you want to know why they use fake money, Hank?
Because it's hard to get a bunch of money. That is incorrect. Okay. Oh wait, no, that is
correct. But do you want to know why the money is obviously That is incorrect. Okay. Oh wait, no, that is correct,
but do you want to know why the money is obviously fake?
No, because you cannot get,
because it is illegal to have accurate looking fake money.
That is right.
And in 2000, when a big budget movie blew up a billion dollars worth of
uh... hundred
dollar fake bills and sent them flying everywhere
used them
because they were very compelling
and they passed them off as legitimate
and then the secret service arrested
the uh... props master who had created the bill
so as you can imagine people people who work in Hollywood,
not anxious to be arrested, these days
make the money look pretty fake.
Wow, that's fascinating.
I mean, you'd think maybe they just make the backs look fake,
like not printing anything on the backs if they're not gonna
shit, but maybe, I don't know.
That's really cool.
There's a possible other explanation here,
which is that maybe you're watching old movies
when money looked different.
Yeah, that's a great point.
Yeah, because it wasn't so long ago
that American bills looked very different.
And yet we continue to print them
all the exact same size,
which is openly discriminatory toward blind people.
We can make all kinds of different changes,
but for some reason, we refuse to make that one.
Also, we continue to make pennies, which is ludicrous.
Okay, we're gonna do one more question,
but we're gonna do it after the news
from Mars and AFC Wimbleton.
We're gonna shake up the format a little bit here.
Basically what I'm trying to do is force people
to listen to the news from Mars and AFC Wimbledon. This last question is gonna be a doozy too, so you've got to stay.
Yeah, it's got to be so good.
John did a bunch of research for it.
What's the news from Mars, Hank?
The news from Mars is some new information about the Mars's ancient history.
Now, John, you know that Mars has the largest volcano in the solar system.
I did know that.
No, I didn't.
You've got Olympus Mons, which is the biggest volcano ever,
and then you have a few other very large volcanoes that are very small compared to Olympus Mons,
but still freaking gigantic.
And around 3 billion to 3.5 billion years ago,
is when these volcanoes first started erupting.
Now, they are still potentially still erupting even to this day.
Now, the most recent eruption of Olympus Mons, very small eruption, happened like less than
a hundred thousand years ago, which is geologic time, not a long time.
So it's possible that there are still eruptions to come.
But back, 3 billion to 3.5 billion years ago, when these volcanoes were forming,
a remarkable thing happened,
where they were so massive,
they made Mars like lopsided,
and the entire planet shifted around its core.
So like imagine, like you put your fist over your fist
and you move your, that's what happened.
Like, Mars stayed in the same place,
but the surface of Mars shifted around.
Does that make sense?
Oh boy, that makes sense.
This means that when we're looking at the surface of Mars,
we're not looking at how it was always oriented,
that it actually has slipped.
And so if you are thinking about like how
Martian seasons were four billion years ago,
they were different than they are now.
Now of course, that was all very long ago,
probably before any life could have formed on Mars
before any of the features that we see on Mars
that they have been, that are relating to water existed.
So we're not, of course, we don't know what Mars
looked like three points seven billion years ago, but it's pretty cool that we can tell this one thing about the history of
Mars that happened so very long ago.
It is fascinating. You know what I find even more fascinating is that the earth is actually
flat.
Yeah. Well, only for a little bit. We better, we better, you know what I mean while we
can.
Okay, I'm excited to move on to the news from AFC Wimbledon Hank
because I was actually at AFC Wimbledon's game
against Oxford United.
I got to meet manager Neil Artley,
first team coach Simon Bassie.
I got to meet all the players Hank.
I went into the locker room before the game
and shook hands.
That's pretty cool.
With every single player from the team, including autobioweck and Fenwa, I told Lyle Taylor
that we called him the Montserrati and Messy and he looked briefly confused because, of
course, he is not actually from Montserrat.
He's from England, but because he has a grandparent from Montserrat, he plays for the Montserrat
national team.
But he seemed quite pleased with the nickname.
I told Callum Kennedy that Meredith,
the producer of the AFC Wimbledon Wimbley Wambles,
is a big fan of his and he was delighted.
I got, it was so fun to meet all of the players.
And the atmosphere, it must be said,
at the stadium was just amazing.
The John Green stand was packed. It was sold out there was singing it was wonderful
uh... andy barchham scored a goal for winaldon and they lost two to one
uh... that's too bad
because oxford's right there at the top of the table that's right oxford's up
there at the top of the table but then we played league leading north hampton
next uh... who are way at the top of the table, but then we played league leading Northampton next,
who are way at the top of the table.
There are 11 points clear,
and we tied them one-one.
So we took one point away from that game at Northampton,
which is a really pretty important point, it must be said.
And while it would have been ideal to win that game
against Oxford and put that would have put us in a position potentially where we could have,
I don't know, maybe, you know, maybe ended up in those top three spots that are automatically
promoted. That isn't, you know, that isn't how it happened. Instead, we lost that game, which was a bummer.
Right.
So you're probably, it's, it's, it's, it's, it'll be a real hard fight
to get up in those top three spots now.
It's looking like we're not going to get up in those top three spots
at this point.
So what we have instead is to get into one of the spots between four and seven.
So we can get into the playoffs and maybe get promoted
that way.
It's it's gonna be difficult right now. We are eighth with 52 points
but the team that is fifth only has 53 points
so it should be possible. I should add Hank
that Wimbledon's crucial tying goal against League Leading Northampton was scored by none other than the Montserratty and Messi-Lyle Taylor, who's just had a fantastic season for us.
So we are currently in eighth, which means that we are missing out on the playoffs, but only one point away from fifth, unfortunately, 12 points away from the automatic promotion spot that is third place.
So that's looking unlikely with just 13 games to go, but hope is the thing with feathers Hank.
Hope is the thing with feathers. All right. Well, I've got some notes here.
We're gonna start putting podcasts notes up on
up on deerhank and up on on the dear Hankajan Patreon.
So you will be able to see some of the things
that we talk about and the thing that I wanna show you
this week in our podcast notes is from Kyla,
who says, looks like somebody already beat me to it.
So you know that there are feral cows in Hong Kong.
However, I bet you didn't know that they enjoy
pumpkin spice cliff bars.
I visited Hong Kong a couple of weeks ago
and have attached some photos for your enjoyment.
The cows are on Ngun Gang Ping Island. I don't speak this language.
And the cows wander around, but are kept out of the vicinity of the monastery and the big
boot that they have there. And I may have accidentally let a stampede of feral cows as they followed me
looking for more cliff bars and petting, but I don't regret it.
Says Kyla.
So we're going to post some of Kyla's pictures of feral cows in Hong Kong.
And then we also have, hey, can I confirm that you can visit all of that stuff on the
Patreon, even if you don't support us on Patreon, right?
That is absolutely true, which I was going to mention in reference to Tim's question,
who says, dear Hank and John, one quick question concerning the podcast,
where are we supposed to discuss the podcast?
Or rather, is there a place on the internet
where the podcast is discussed?
And can I join?
You can.
There's conversations going on on the SoundCloud,
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there are conversations happening on the Patreon.
Now, you don't have to be a patron
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and we encourage you to do that.
And I hope that there are interesting conversations going on there,
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And also, you will be able to listen to the podcast there.
Yeah, so basically, if you go to patreon.com slash deerhankinjohn,
you have the option to support our podcast here and help out Nick who edits the show and Claudia are in turn
But you don't really have to you get 99% of the benefits just by going to the web page
You can see everything the only thing that you don't have access to is our monthly
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Nonetheless, we appreciate all of your support on Patreon.
It really helps out with the show.
So thank you, but you don't need to support the podcast
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All right. And now we have our final question question which comes from Shelby, Dear Hank and John,
given its varying price points throughout the world,
how much in USD would it actually cost
to buy the world a Coke?
Hahaha.
Hahaha.
I mean, this is an exceptionally difficult question to answer.
So one of the reasons that this is such a difficult question to answer is that you've got
to count whether or not different municipalities charge extra for you to return the can, like
you get a five cent or ten cent refund, you know?
Yeah, and then you've got soda taxes in some places in America. You're not going to get an exact number.
Could we get a... You're not going to get an exact number. Yeah. But what I have seen is that there is a website called And it says that the global average price of one can of Coca-Cola is $2.65 for 12 ounces,
for 330 milliliters.
I think that this is wrong.
I also think that this is wrong.
You also think that it is wrong?
Yeah, because that's not how much it can at Coke costs.
Yeah, I think that it is wrong because it says that in the United States, the price is $4.23, which seems
high. Yeah, that seems pretty wrong. So I think we've got a lot of like wrong answers
that have messed up who much.com. My theory is that a can of coke because I base this on having traveled
to four countries. So this is a very round estimate, okay. But I just bought a can of Pepsi
at the Azeroth refugee camp in northern Jordan. I've purchased a can of Coke in Odys, Ababa, Ethiopia.
I've purchased Coke in the Dominican Republic
in Mexico, in the United States, in Canada.
None of these places, by the way,
have diet, Dr. Pepper, except for the United States
in Canada, or else I wouldn't have purchased a Coke,
believe me.
And I'm going to say that the average price of a Coke
on Earth is 75 cents.
That is my round guess.
Just buying one Coke.
Obviously, if you buy 12 Cokes at a time, you get a bulk discount.
But I think the average price for one Coke is around 75 cents.
You think that's too high-hank?
Well, I think if you're going to buy the World of Coke, you're going to get a bulk discount.
Okay, let's assume that we get a bulk discount.
In that case, a 12 pack is like
three bucks and 12 divided by three. Yeah, I'm going to say 25. I'm going to say if
we are going to try and buy seven billion coaks, we can get a pretty steep discount. So
I'm going to say 25 cents and I'm going to say that's hot. Okay, so let's say it's 25 cents. There's currently, well, what is the world's current population?
World's current population.
Google says the world's current population is 7.125 billion.
That's a very round number.
That's at most correct within the nearest million, but whatever, we're doing our best here.
So we're going to say 7.125 billion times 0.25.
You could buy the world a Coke for my goodness. That is a lot of money.
Around 1.8 billion dollars.
About 1.78 billion dollars will buy you, well, will buy the world a can of Coke, a piece.
Uh, however, are we gonna say that maybe we don't want to buy
Cokes for the babies? And we'll leave it at that time.
Do we not, though, I don't want to buy Cokes especially for the babies?
I don't. I think we should drop off everyone under the age of six.
Let's just not, let's just say, leave that up to their parents.
Actually Hank, there's something that you haven't considered
at all that neither of us have considered
and that I'm not even sure the question considered,
which is that if we're going to say
how much would it actually cost to buy the world a Coke?
Why are we limiting the access of Coke only to one particular species?
It's true, John. It's true. If you got to buy a Coke for every single ant, then you're going to
run out of money real fast. Well, the nice thing about ants, though, is that they don't need like
one Coke a piece, you know? Like 500 million of them can use one Coke. Right, share a Coke.
Yeah, yeah, just pour one out on the hill
and they'll be like, that's scary
and then they'll be like, no, it's nuts.
Do more.
And they'll end up like dying in the syrup of the Coke,
but oh, what a death it shall be.
Sounds about right, John.
All right.
All right, Hank, what did we learn today?
Oh, yeah, we learned that the Coca-Cola company
will not sponsor us, but not because we don't,
not because they don't want to,
because we don't want them to,
because we would die of Dr. Pepper to sponsor us.
That's right, it's Dr. Pepper or nobody.
And of course, we learned that the earth is round
and that if it weren't, it would become round.
We learned that someone once went to jail for making a movie prop that looked too realistic.
Actually, I'm not sure they went to jail. That might be like me talking about FDR packing the court, but the secret service came calling.
And of course we learned that bugs don't die when we flick them because of F equaling
MA.
That's correct.
Thank you, John, for podcasting with me today.
Thank you all of you people for listening to the podcast today.
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