Distractible - No Topic Left Beef

Episode Date: March 29, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sasquatch here. You know, I get a lot of attention wherever I go. Hey Sasquatch, over here! So when I need a judgment-free zone, I go to Planet Fitness. Get started for one dollar down and then only fifteen dollars a month. Offer ends April 12th. Forty-nine dollar annual fee applies. See Home Club for details. Good evening, gentle listener, and welcome to Distractable. This episode, wailing Wade, silly and nip appreciator, explains twitching butts, cleave cam, and reports on a bad tutor.
Starting point is 00:00:29 My great remark marvels at IMAX's, explains massive holes, and gets into big cameras. Battered Bob is the hottest sailor, fails to bluff Bach, Dorides poor professors, and has high lick standards. From Iron L lung spoilers to silver medals yes it's time for no topic left to beef now sit back and prepare to be distracted and enjoy the show good morning evening afternoon night everyone welcome back to distractable I'm today's host and a person with the inability to speak normally, Wade.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Hope you all had a fantastic day. Shut up, co-host. Sorry, that just fucking killed me for some reason. You've never been here before. This is the show where one of us hosts, the other two compete for points, and the winner gets to host the next episode. And usually they get to do their intros uninterrupted,
Starting point is 00:01:24 but today I do not. Well, I don't know if that's a usual parameter. How are you doing, fellows? Mark and Bob, my cohost, I introduce you. I don't know, this has been a mess. I'm once again in a new space. Wow, it looks like there's a carrot smoking wheat behind you. Wow, look at that.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah, Wade told this really hilarious joke right before recording started about this carrot that was smoking on some wheat. It was so funny. We were laughing. Yeah, I almost didn't make it. Is it your space? No, it's Airbnb.
Starting point is 00:01:53 It's an Airbnb that's right over the airport. It's great. You got your own planes and whatnot? That's pretty fancy. I suppose in the final stages of movie nonsense. Um, but nearing the finish line. I see you have an official iron lung shirt on. Yeah, I do. There's a large spoiler on the back.
Starting point is 00:02:10 I can't turn around no matter what. Mark, there's a very reflective picture frame behind you spoiling your life's work. Oh no, actually, it's not that big a deal. I could show you if you want, you wanna see? You should show the camera and have the editors, you should just blur it out. God, I hope they blur Yeah, so it's oh my god. Is that a carrot? carrot smoking wheat
Starting point is 00:02:32 I Didn't know iron lung had carrots mark was actually just misleading He talked a lot about how much fake blood there was on set the wheat budget was astronomical are we making wheat a budget was astronomical. Are we making wheat a... Never mind. Can't think of the word.
Starting point is 00:02:49 We can talk about weed. We were talking about wheat. You were the one who said the carrot was sucking on wheat. Was that a substitute for drugs for you? No, because it was like the stereotypical, like, I don't know, not Western, but like, I don't know, you approach like the old guy at the Southern saloon. He's got his hat over his head. He's got like wheat in his mouth, you know, oh you knew it in town the mysterious stranger voice
Starting point is 00:03:13 Maybe we should have a shootout at high noon Bob. What's new with you? I'm sure listeners can tell I sound a little sick as I am I'm gonna talk about the baby. So anyone who hates that, sorry. In the last week, we have had possibly the worst night with James and also three of the best nights of sleep with him like since he was born. So it's been a really weird mix of stuff. He's teething right now and he has like three molars coming in all at the same time, which is incredibly painful. And so there was one night he could not exist without just screaming because it was like agony, like constant agony, didn't sleep the whole night. It was just him, it was trying to do anything
Starting point is 00:03:51 to keep him from just screaming in pain. But then three other nights around that, he has slept for like eight straight hours without waking up or anything, which is not, he usually wakes up at least a couple times. He slept like he was a rock and it's been weird because those have been fantastic nights but also I've been sick so that didn't help me sleep very much but then the one night where he literally just didn't sleep was just
Starting point is 00:04:16 absolute chaos and ruined the next week of everything because my schedule was all off he was crazy we didn't sleep so anyway we're in a wild time with the baby right now. But he's cute, he's starting to talk. He knows what sound a horse makes. Oh. If you look at him, you go, James, what sound does a horse make? He goes, nay!
Starting point is 00:04:36 It's amazing, it's very cute. Oh, that's cute. Wait, when did he say his first words? Well, he's been saying like mama and daddaf nine or 10 months, he started really saying like mama and dad f. 9 or 10 months he started really saying stuff. But before the new year he was talking and saying some stuff but like his speech is about to explode. He's gonna start saying all kinds of stuff. I don't have any way to segue back into this but did I mention that B&H was actually nice after the camera purchase. This is- You did, we talked about that, right?
Starting point is 00:05:06 Someone reached out after you smoked them out on our podcast and then they worked them out for you. I just reamed them thoroughly. And I got the camera back from Red after the upgrade because they facilitated that for a discount. I've used the shit out of that camera. I just this past week, I probably probably put I put about 40 hours on the camera because it already had 12. How many hours does it get to the gallon?
Starting point is 00:05:29 Gas-powered camera. It makes the audio so complicated. That would make Gilling Action such more of a boss move. You know what's so funny is if you've ever seen a video of an IMAX camera movie. You're like, RUR, people really like the big experience. Is the IMAX one, two reels of film too, or is it just an enormous? I know the frames that it shoots on are like- They're enormous, and also IMAX reels can be multiple huge reels, and these reels are like maybe a meter in diameter,
Starting point is 00:06:19 maybe even more than that. Like, I don't even know how to, I've never seen one in person, but I've seen videos of people loading them into the projector. They are million dollar machines just to project it. It's not an easy thing to do it, but I haven't seen Dune Part 2 or anything like that, and I didn't see Oppenheimer in IMAX, but I've heard just like, man, the experience is so much grander. Is IMAX just a bigger screen like for the viewing experience? It's a specific camera and film form factor that gives you a different
Starting point is 00:06:48 viewing experience, yes. Do you want the actual technical differences? No. I'd be interested. Go ahead Mark. Well he's the host I can't. Well no I do want to know I thought you said do I know what the technical differences is? I don't but I do want to know. I thought yeah I thought you were just completely like, nope, let's move on. I thought he asked if I do know. I'm also an idiot. Please go on. So Wade, your camcorder has what's known as a one inch sensor. That's at least average.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Yes, it's very average. You keep telling yourself that buddy. Yeah, it should be very, very proud. So a one inch sensor, as far as I know, it's not actually one inch. They have these weird naming conventions for it, but it might be one inch from corner to corner, right? Of the actual size of the sensor itself. It might be one inch from corner to corner. Hopefully that's actually what it is. Because sometimes like there's,
Starting point is 00:07:36 they have like micro four thirds and a one, one eighth inch sensor where they turn the proportion around to make it look like it's bigger than it really is when it's really like No, but in standard movie making there's what's called super 35. There's also what's called like Academy 35 format, but roughly they're all about the same where it's based on the actual film is 35 millimeters from corner to corner or some arrangement of that, but it's about 22 by 18 and a half millimeters end to end right so it's about
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yay, big. It's kind of the size that you imagined film would be yeah exactly now IMAX is 70 millimeters by 48.5 it's not just double as big because as you grow in volume or as you grow in these dimensions the volume grows cubically like the actual or squarely not cubically I'm thinking three dimensions. The volume increases at a larger proportional rate to the dimensions of the outer perimeter. I said shapes got it. When shapes get bigger, their size gets larger. I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:08:47 And so what you're able to capture with this, I'm trying to pull up a picture. There was one that was good in Oppenheimer that showed the actual resolution gain from there. Oh, have you seen it? It's the one of like the close up of his eye and then it zooms into his eye. Have either of you seen that?
Starting point is 00:09:04 I've not seen the movie or I've not seen anything really it. I'll leave it to the editors because I don't think I'll be able to find in time I'm only on a laptop. I don't have a second monitor. I lied to you. No, they're gonna see it The editors are gonna put it in there. I won't all right, so I'm gonna paint you a visual story You're like the listeners right? You gotta listen. It's a it's a picture here of Well, you could look at me me, cause I'm your reference. Well then I'm not a listener. All right, you know what?
Starting point is 00:09:27 Everyone come to Spotify so you can look at Mark. So imagine a picture of Cillian Murphy, Oppenheimer, right? Is that how you pronounce his name? I thought it was Cillian, is it Cillian? Cillian Murphy. Hey Siri, how do you pronounce Cillian Murphy's name? It is with a hard C, it's Cillian Murphy.
Starting point is 00:09:42 All right, it's like a, you know, a bust shot. From the nips to the tips of his head, right? With IMAX, you can zoom in on the eye, and in this image there is like a... What about the nips? His nips. From nips to the tips of his head. You can zoom in on those too, right? We're not zooming on his nips, he's got a shirt on. Anyway, you zoom in on his eye, and the IMAX, you can zoom in all the way on his eye,
Starting point is 00:10:03 from a normal shot though shot that size, and you can see the details of the reflection of his eye and the IMAX you can zoom in all the way on his eye from a normal shot though shot that size and you can see the details of the reflection of his eye. That is the resolution of IMAX film versus versus Super 35 format. But it's not just that that changes the perspective of what you're seeing because there is an entirely different depth of field experience when you are dealing with larger sensor formats. So what you call on most cameras, you have an f-stop in film cameras, right? So you have an f-stop, which is just,
Starting point is 00:10:33 it's a mathematical interpretation for an easy number that goes down the more open the aperture is and it goes up the closed it is. So it's like an f22 is a really narrow thing. You have a really, uh, really deep depth of field. Most everything is in focus, but there's not a lot of light coming through. With a IMAX film strip, you have a huge circle, an image circle that's coming through onto there.
Starting point is 00:10:57 The depth of field is incredibly thin. Sometimes if it's wide open, the depth of field is like this. So it creates this, and it's just a totally different perspective of how you are looking at things because things will be more out of focus in the distance than they are. And usually not always, but usually cinematic looks are based on depth of field and framing and and shot composition based on how that depth of field is treated or lighting is based around that. And you have to light differently in terms of these massive aperture because more light is going in.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But also the film needs needs more light because more light has to cover a larger surface area. It's all a balance and it creates a different look. It's it's a lot of people might go like, well, it's not that different was actually it's fundamentally different. There's an entire different kind of calculations you have to make based on all the different parameters. You have to treat it differently. You have to do it differently. You have to use different lenses. Like, and you know, I'm not trying to talk about lenses,
Starting point is 00:11:55 but literally the lenses for this have to be custom made and massive because most of them are meant for film cameras. They're meant for shooting on this. Their actual image circles are not this big and so you you have to have different all this different equipment and what it does is it creates an entirely different viewing experience. And also it's 3x2. Usually when it's projected in iMacs it's 3x2. So usually if you think of old TVs it was 4x3 so it was a square-ish look to it. 3x2 is actually less square than 4 by 3, but it's not 16 by 9.
Starting point is 00:12:30 3 by 2 is 1.5 aspect ratio, right? 1.79 is 16 by 9. 2.35 is typical widescreen cinematic. Those are the aspect ratios. The ratio of how wide it is to how tall it is. 2.35 is 2.35 long to one tall, 16 by nine is 1.8-ish. So 1.8 times as long as one tall, 1.5 times as one tall.
Starting point is 00:12:53 As a quick aside, I realized those different resolutions recently and how much I've adapted to the more widescreen format. And the reason I bring that up, Molly has been reading a bunch, she reads tons of books. And apparently a couple of her books mentioned like a 90s show lasted two seasons that came back in 2017 for like one season called Twin Peaks. You ever heard Twin Peaks? Oh yeah, Twin Peaks, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I had never seen it, we'd never seen it. So we started watching it and it was so weird seeing a square show on like a rectangular monitor again. And I remember whenever we first went to like the widescreen format I was like very like opposed I like the symmetry of the square look but going back I was like oh this is terrible god it's so horrible. Wade hates everything new. I do I do hate everything new. The square the square is now new so Wade hates the square when the square was not new and the rectangle was new god damn you rectangle
Starting point is 00:13:45 Well, I mean it's just symmetrical and I like symmetry old man Yells at cloud meme is just Wade's entire existence. I don't know movies always were widescreen though TVs were Made I don't know why I think it might have been with cathode ray technology. It couldn't project wider. I don't know. I guess it could. It would just be a smaller... I don't know why they went square for TV. Because theaters were almost... Well, actually, no. Maybe old theaters. I can't speak because I'm not an expert in this, but... I don't know when the switch, the differentiation came between those.
Starting point is 00:14:19 This says... This is a Quora answer, so... Let's take that with a... This says the 4-3 aspect ratio was copied from the standard movie aspect at the time in the late 1940s. Right, I did know this because yeah, they were 4x3 and then people wanted more width. That's how anamorphics came into play
Starting point is 00:14:38 because film was always squarish, 4x3 or 3x2 little squares because that's just the way it was. It was more efficient to do it that way for the image and then if they wanted a wider one They would use anamorphic lens to squeeze Light from the sides to fit on the square and then they would use an anamorphic projector to project it back and stretch it out And that's how you got a wider screen So wide screen actually might be the outlier, but it was stylistically nice because you just got more information on that screen. More sideways, not as much up and down as you might like.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Yeah, we want vertical movies. Wait, can I just say that I'm incredibly disappointed you didn't make an Animorph joke when Mark kept saying the word anamorphic. It came to mind, I pictured it. I know it did. I think it's one of the first 10 books where like Jake turns into like a leopard
Starting point is 00:15:24 and they go to some forest. I don't, I read it 30 years ago, so I don't really remember a whole lot about it, but that's always the book cover of the mind. Nice lens chat, Mark. Thanks. I always managed to work it in. It is interesting though. I think film in the process of like how things have changed and then going back and watching
Starting point is 00:15:39 something from the nineties and even just like the campy 90s style of drama like Twin Peaks is an FBI agent and he is like so stereotypically like 90s FBI agent that it's like obscene watching people with their like corded rotary phones it was like the good old days. Another thing I know about Twin Peaks is that there's an episode of Psych where they solve a crime a mystery in a town called Dual Spires and it's like a it's like a riff on Twin Peaks. And that's, so I only know like the weird psych meme references to that show. I've never seen it. But it looks super weird. Yeah, we've only watched one episode so far and it's, you know, a drama 90s like murder mystery drama type deal. Very stereotypical characters even more so than
Starting point is 00:16:21 today. Like you are very cast into your role. If you're the FBI agent, you wear a suit, you have like your talking thing, you're above everybody. Like, I don't know, you're just so over and above your role. It's just, it's really funny. Amy's a big fan of Twin Peaks. We haven't watched it together though, which is something she wants to do. But the director, what's the director of that's name?
Starting point is 00:16:42 He's pretty famous for being like a out there stylistically Director it was directed by David Lynch. Absolutely. That was like his his start and Yeah, he's done a whole bunch of stuff like a whole bunch of stuff and he has a very specific style kind of like a you know Wes Anderson has a specific style not that their styles are similar But you get a director and it's like very just like even even Dune's director Dennis Dennis villain or whatever got it. He has a very specific style and you know his his you know His style comes across and and I I think that movies nowadays I'm always watching a video that was talking about this is like it should allow directors to embrace their style
Starting point is 00:17:25 Instead of being like just try to you know least common denominator. Oh, he also did Blade Runner 2044 49 For what what's the year 2040 something 2049? That's the one yeah, so he's done a lot of those really grand Setpieces and you know that that lends well to IMAX He also has a certain pacing that you know not a lot of people like because he likes to take his time his movies are typically longer, but they're beautiful Like that's the thing is like I like seeing beautiful imagery in movies I like seeing grand worlds because I want to be pulled into that world and and I think like all these movies are Trying to break down the barriers of seeing into these worlds and allowing yourself to be immersed Just like with games is like it's it's not that it needs to be pretty,
Starting point is 00:18:06 but sometimes you want to just feel like you're in that world and a lot of the work going into it can be spent in the wrong places to make these cinematics in games. Whereas a cinematic is a storytelling tool that directors for movies usually do to get people into it, but for games, it's the experience of actually playing in that world that gets people into it.
Starting point is 00:18:26 So it's different, but you know, it's all about like specific art direction and vision and cohesiveness in that vision. Well, I do have a topic, unless you all want to talk about anything else before I hop in. Did you talk about the hot tubs? So there was a moment where Twitch had allowed
Starting point is 00:18:41 limited amounts of adult content, right? I don't know what exactly they allowed or didn't allow, but it lasted all of like a day before they got rid of it or changed it, right? You're talking about the artistic nudity rules changed that they did and then undid. I don't know what all was allowed or not allowed because it didn't really affect me much,
Starting point is 00:18:56 but I know that like a lot of thumbnails on Twitch were like just nude this, nude that, apparently Twitch backtracked, they're like, oh, this is bad, we gotta get rid of it. So they changed it. Bob, what are you wiping? Sorry. I thought that that had changed how
Starting point is 00:19:09 some other things had worked. Cause I know I've had some friends that had emotes, for example, where it was like a dog's butt or something. It was called like a dumpy emote or, you know, booty little whatever. And Twitch had started getting rid of those emotes. They were like, no, these emotes aren't appropriate. You can't have a dog wagging its butt
Starting point is 00:19:24 or you can't have this, no butts. Well, I was talking to Bob and there was like a recommended hot tub stream and I was like, well, I don't know what you can even do on those anymore because I thought they'd change the rules. So I opened it up to take a look because I was just curious and boy, oh boy, was I surprised. Remember there were two cameras. One of them was an oil, literally just an oiled up zoom in on someone's butt. And the other one was like them in the, you know, the front face with them there. It definitely wasn't like a swimsuit. It was definitely underwear standing there talking But they weren't even in a hot tub They were just standing somewhere with covered in oil, which you know, I don't care twitch can allow nudity
Starting point is 00:19:55 They can not allow nudity. It doesn't affect me. I don't care I'm gonna keep making normal clothes gaming content. That's just what I do boring It did strike me as odd that there was just like with maybe a quarter inch of cloth naked girl butt, but you can't have an emote of a dog shaking its butt or just a like an emote of an animated character or whatever, like a non even sexualized butt. It was just an interesting contrast in my mind because I feel like if you're going to allow a real human butt to be shown completely barren, you would allow an emote of whatever. I'm not saying ban the butt, you can, but I don't get the discrepancy there. No, no, you're onto something. I like Wade's latest rallying cry. Ban the butt! Ban the butt! I think that we can all get behind this.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Subreddit support him! I have to say, Wade, I was gonna let you dig your own hole before I said anything. The thing you're talking about, as far as I understand it, had no impact on hot tub streaming. Oh, okay. I must have dreamed that then. It was a rule allowing artistic nudity, which expanded the... People were sort of taking advantage of it to be like, well, isn't porn art?
Starting point is 00:21:00 This is my art, right? Because if you make sexual content then that is your... People had to push the limits the moment the rule came to see yeah yeah so so immediately twitch was like oh not that and then they backtracked on the rule change that they did and but like the hot tub stuff that's always been that didn't that's not going anywhere that's a core part of twitch wait that's like the good good stuff you know that reminded me I saw someone retweeted this uh literally the other day you know how the vtubers are becoming a bigger thing people have
Starting point is 00:21:30 like their vtuber avatars and a lot of them are kind of like busty anime girls there was um a vtube screenshot of like this person was like their busty anime girl in the corner but the screen was their torso zoomed in and they had like, um, promokeed out the skin color of the boobs and you watched the gameplay through the see-through cleavage while their full skin was in the bottom. So it was like their body, the line of like the breast and this is where you saw the game being played. That's very funny. This is not related at all, but can I but I just want to throw this out there. On the subreddit, someone posted a drawing of us as like Sailor Moon character type looking things.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And I just want to say, of the three of us, I was the hot one, and thank you. Like, we were all hot, but I was the hottest one. And I appreciate you. If I was prepared, I would have their username. But you know who you are. It was on the subreddit? Go to the subreddit. It's a picture of the three of us as like Sailor Moon.
Starting point is 00:22:34 And I'm hot. House underscore Staber 69. Is that the one? Probably. If it's Sailor Moon, aren't you? Oh, but I'm on r slash Sailor Moon, not r slash Distractable. No, u slash MCR dash G dash Note. Did you just shout out a random username from someone who made Sailor Moon art that wasn't even us?
Starting point is 00:22:54 I just- I think someone else posted their artwork on a different thing. I don't know how this works, man. I don't read it very well. You don't say- you don't say the u. I just wanna- it's fine. Well, it's got a u slash and then the MCR dash why is a slash bad but a dash good? They all have U slash that's the format of username. I don't know that because I don't read it much. No that's the format of internet URLs in general you should know that forward slashes are a separator between oh man only Sith speaking absolute I'm not saying that you have to learn but you've had so much time to learn
Starting point is 00:23:35 It's like, you know, this is just he he's a toddler that's learned There's an expression that sometimes gets him what's he wants and it was always subreddit defend me and he just started shouting that and then things Happen and so confirmation bias just let him to be like that if I say that That'll get me good results I mean I go there I look and they say nice things about me mostly and minus like the three people that are like You know what everyone else here is wrong fuck Wade market Bob are always right Yeah, I'll sit for your guys all to count. Everyone else is on my side Wade market Bob are always right. Yeah, I'll sit for your guys alt accounts. Everyone else is on my side anyway
Starting point is 00:24:08 All right, we have about 20 minutes here to do an actual episode No, but what about talking about VTubers cuz I was gonna talk about the I saw you know, what sure I'll save this I'll button this one. Let's go ahead VTubers I was doing like have you seen videos that look at how complex those VTuber models are the number of parameters that are listed in like the skeletal structures on those models. I can't explain it in like specific terms or maybe it's not that grandiose, but I saw like it was on TikTok or something and someone just like scrolling, scrolling and scrolling and all these lists of things that were physically movable or had like some kind of physicality
Starting point is 00:24:40 to them on the models and like the different layers of it and how to get different costuming to work in there. It's extremely complex. Yeah, they get pretty intricate, man. Yeah, and the way that it can like real-time motion capture for that, even in movies, that's difficult. Like even in movies, that can be a difficult process and there's so much pioneering going on in this world of motion capture for Vtubers that it is expanding in a way that makes it more accessible for home filmmakers to have motion capture of that level. It's kind of crazy to even think about, but it's true.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And then you can have an absolutely intricate model that moves in the way that you want it to move, and do whatever it is, and you have artists that, like, spend hundreds of hours making these things. And it's just like, it's just an incredibly complex thing that you never thought would be at this point, but that's kind of just how humans do. It's like, we just elevate way past where it needs to be. I wonder if we're gonna get to the point where like at home people have to do makeup, like they do for motion capture.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Like I don't know if you've ever watched the behind the scenes like when they were making the last of us, but they have to wear like the head rigs and you know, I'm sure it's just very common, but like that's the example I can think when they were making the last of us But I have to wear like the head rigs and you know, I'm pretty very common But like that's the example I can think of they like the dots all over everything for the capture points Like imagine like getting ready to stream and you're like, alright, here's my head rig. Here's my dots and uh, alright Here's my Joel from last of us avatar. I mean, I'm sure that some people did because back but not anymore I don't think because nowadays you can just take like webcam footage and get a perfect match of everything that you need well
Starting point is 00:26:09 and a lot like I've corridors been doing this forever the the technology that's in the iPhone face ID stuff the depth mapping that that has it's like you don't need the dots it has an incredibly accurate 3d depth mapping thing of your face it's always one of those things where the top end is always going to rise at a pretty much stable rate, but the bottom end of the most accessible version of it goes down actually, where you can get access to it. So like the average, or it pulls everyone up. It's like a curve on a test where it's like the higher up it goes, and then the more people
Starting point is 00:26:40 innovate from the bottom is like the curve and everyone can get close enough to like 80% of where movies are is closing in on that gap. And that's how technology can help individual creators. And this is a sphere where it is interesting. There's certain other, you know, you could talk about VTubers on a grand scale of like they're taking our camera based creators jobs. But I think technologically it's it's very cool to see how this gets pushed because the more tools that are in people's pockets
Starting point is 00:27:09 for individual creativity, the better in my opinion. That reminded me, I don't know why this is completely unrelated, but this is distractible. This is the show where we get distracted. In fourth grade, our teacher gave us a social studies test, but she accidentally gave us the wrong one, so it was a test for a subject matter we hadn't covered yet.
Starting point is 00:27:27 After we took the test, she showed us the curve. The average, I think, was like a 46% because it was multiple choice, so like people just guessed. So the average was 46. One student had a 96% on the test. And that's how the teacher figured out they were cheating on things. It was because everyone flunked and then one kid got a 96.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Like you saw all of the dots over here. The average was like up here and then there was one person way over here by themselves with a 96 percent. Dude, you just know all the like a straight A students in that class. They were like, all right, I'm ready for this. Sat down, get their pencil out. Then they look at the test and they're just like Oh God
Starting point is 00:28:10 There's like mental breakdowns happening internally. And that ripples out from everyone looking over at them going like oh no Yeah I always cheat off them Like I've never had that experience I'm not to go off on more changes, but I've never had that experience in school where I look at a test in high school. In college, in engineering school, yes absolutely, I've flipped over a test and I've been like, what? Was that even taught? But in high school
Starting point is 00:28:38 I've never had that experience where I flip over a test and I didn't know at least somewhat of what was being talked about there because I can't I can't Because if you guess if you guess at a multiple choice test you just completely guess you should average out to 50% You should no actually no you should average 25 a b c d 50% Oh, there's always two right answers in my right Two wrongs make a right well either way it's like I feel like I've never flipped over a test in high school and been like, oh, fuck. It's like they tell you what's going to be on the test and then you just glance at what that is and then you take the test.
Starting point is 00:29:14 You don't even need to really study that hard because you can get 80%. I'm totally with you, Mark. That's how I am. I have, I have, I think I've told this story. I have one time where I was struck by that in my entire life and it scared the shit out of me. I don't think it works that way for everybody I think other people need a lot more preparation I have I have literally gone into a test where all I did was like skim the book and not I hadn't paid a single ounce of attention and I got to the test and I was like
Starting point is 00:29:41 No, the one time that did happen where I got totally hosed It was a thing I was shouldn't I should have been prepared for but it wasn't like a class. When I went to music school when you show up to school they assess where you are to see if you should be in like honors music theory classes and so when you get there for like orientation you take a test and it's supposed to be like a basic test like oh any dummy could pretty much solve most of these problems but if you do really well you get advanced. I turned it over and I swear to God, the first thing was just an empty music stave, and then they started playing music on the speakers and they were like, alright, write that down.
Starting point is 00:30:14 And I was like, what? And everyone around me was like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And I was like, oh, fuck, how did I get into music school? Guys, wait, wait a minute! Oh my god! Guys, it's in treble clef, I don't even know what this is! Whoa, shit! I just immediately gave up and it was kind of funny, because I remember they would just do stuff, they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:30:35 they'd play a chord on the piano and be like, BOOM! Alright, write what notes are in that chord and I'd be like, Pfft! Oh shit, you're all- oh man, god damn it! I keep thinking it's a joke, but it's not a joke. You should have buzzed out your finger kind of say, Aga buddha for
Starting point is 00:30:54 start, start writing math like, Hey, I got eight. I put in the hydratiq equation. I had that same experience at a much sadder degree. I like junior high. We had to take a music class as a person who didn't really learn much about I learned a lot more about music playing guitar here and rock band that I ever had known prior. So like I remember sitting in the class and the teacher started playing something and she's like, all right, name all of the instruments or instrument types you hear. I was like, okay, drums, and not drums. And I was like, I don't know, there was strings or piano,
Starting point is 00:31:30 don't piano have fucking strings in them? Are they strings? I don't know. What is a piano? Is it a string instrument? I don't know. It's kind of a string instrument. It is strings that make the sound.
Starting point is 00:31:39 So Junior, I had no idea. So I remember writing down drums and I was like, guitar, it was like some classic song Was not guitar old small wooden guitar old medium wooden guitar Blow stick. Yeah, it was like I don't know there were there were flutes and all kinds of stuff I did not know a thing, but I remember like listening to it I was watching everyone else write shit down I was like all I had was drums and then I started writing
Starting point is 00:32:03 I don't know. I had like the start of a letter and I was like, I don't even know what word I'm writing, cause I don't know. Did you just make up instruments? I knew like three instruments back then, you know? Like I had no experience with music. The guitar, the bitar, the snitar. I knew there was guitar, bass, drums, flute,
Starting point is 00:32:21 and saxophone and piano. That might've been the only instruments I knew. Oh, I don't know why that, this hilarious tic-tac I saw was, you know, Neil deGrasse Tyson, he always makes statements that, you know, sometimes aren't true, because he's like, he didn't get Dune because they were, you know, in Dune you hit the sand and it resonates. Oh, I saw this. And then, yeah, he's like, if you hit sand, no one's gonna hear it. And it cuts to someone buried in sand in the distance at a hand, like,
Starting point is 00:32:45 10 feet away going, on the sand, and you just hear a muffled voice go, I hear it. I hear it, it's real. Yeah, no, that one's so funny. He's so, he's so, like, he does the Neil deGrasse Tyson thing where he's like, it's sand, it's, if you thump sand, no one hears that. You can't thump sand. Sand is sand. Sand. And then the person is just like, thump. Well, and you can hear it in the video too. You hear it, they're like, they're hitting sand and you hear the thump audibly.
Starting point is 00:33:11 That's so fucking funny. That guy needs to go touch some sand. He's never been out there. He's only, he's only addressed sand theoretic, theory, wow, theoretically. Theoretically, I think is a word. It's like theoretically, but specifically about one theory. Skrillet, Skrillet. Skrillet's a, a ba-ba-ba- a word. It's like theoretically but specifically about one theory. Skrillit! Skrillit!
Starting point is 00:33:25 Skrillit's a... a b-b-b-b-bomb wrapper. What's it called? Uh... Are you starting to say dubstep? That's it! Skrillit! The b-b-b-bomb wrapper! God damn! We're killing it today, guys! I had a topic ready! For anyone still in school, I have a handy tip tip This is circling back to something we stopped talking about
Starting point is 00:33:48 Because it worked for my ADHD, right? I was in class and I would never pay attention But the teachers always go tap tap tap tap X equals C Hmm, they'll always do more emphasis when they're pointing at something that'll be on the test and And that's when you take a note. That's when you're like, eh, okay, alright. They'll- they'll give it away. DUDES, HERE'S THE TIP! ONLY PAY ATTENTION WITH THE TEACHER! MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM I remember that thing because otherwise I'm just daydreaming or falling asleep and whenever they go Puh-puh, huh? And then that would be on the test and I would I would know that and that's how I got through everything I didn't really study that much. I did the homework assignments, but it's like they'll always tell you what's on the test
Starting point is 00:34:34 They may not give a study guide, but they'll always be like it's like they want you to succeed Yeah, it's like we're trying to teach you this thing Except for my philosophy of sports teacher in college, I will never forgive that man for wanting us to fail. Why do we need to get the balls to the hoop? I wish, dude. I was so excited for that class. Nothing has ever equaled the disappointment
Starting point is 00:34:56 as far as school goes. As going into that class, like, I'm gonna have one really fun class this semester. I took like two or three senior capstones because I'm an idiot. I knew I was overdoing it. I was gonna have all these hard, like graduate level classes, but it's like philosophy of sports.
Starting point is 00:35:09 It's like a hundred level class. It's gonna be easy. It's gonna be interesting. It's gonna be fun. I cannot wait. And it was the hardest fucking thing I ever did in my life. Cause the teacher was just like, I don't want you all to have an easy time here
Starting point is 00:35:19 and think my class is just an easy pass. I won't get you to have to work for it. Man, he was onto you, huh? I told you guys a story, haven't I? about how I took him to lunch and like basically told him he was a bad teacher? Yeah, I remember that, I think. I just have never forgotten that, man, in that class. I do find that confusing. Like, I get that college professors are not the same as like teachers, and teachers just want you to succeed. Teachers do it because they're like, I love teaching, I love kids, I want
Starting point is 00:35:42 the kids to learn and enjoy learning and whatever, right? Professors are there because it's their job. They might be teachers, but they're not necessarily... I get that. But some professors, man, holy shit, go do something else. Like it's like they're there to spite the students and I get they're there to do their research or whatever, right? Like that's the maybe their main motivation. But why do they have to teach kids called courses like jesus christ there should be an aptitude test or like a personality test or something where some some professors are just like half of you are going to fail this is how i like it enjoy suffering let's begin and it's like well that's not i didn't learn shit from you you just i hated you i hated you i hated your class You made me like the subject matter that you taught even less.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Like why why is that? Don't do that. Okay, you're not a teacher. That's fine. But like don't don't do that. Yeah, I think I'm not a harm-precedent sure but I'm pretty sure that it's exactly what you were saying is like there are people there who are at the pinnacle of their field that want to work in a lab and the lab just happens to be attached to a college campus and the only way that they can get a job working in the lab and the lab just happens to be attached to a college campus and the only way that they can get a job working in the lab is by being like alright I'm an expert in the field and the college is like well you gotta teach our students and they're like UGHH, oh fine. Let them just do the re- they're real smart.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Let them do the fun smart research stuff. Let the ones who don't hate humanity teach the humans about stuff. Like, Jesus Christ. They're like the Dr. House of teachers. They just want the interesting things to happen. They're like, I'll tolerate the rest of you. I would even be happy with House. House is a total a-hole, but he did not suffer idiots and he would not suffer mistakes. And he did teach. He just did it in a way that was as adversarial and shitty, but like he wanted his people to be excellent. He just like wasn't nice. I would take that over a professor who was literally just like,
Starting point is 00:37:30 I fucking hate you. Prepare to fail. And if you're smart, prepare to extra fail because I hate that you think you're smart. It's like, yeah, girl, gross. It might also be that they they have PhD level classes that they prefer to teach and they have to teach also the 101s and they're just like these stupid fresh out of high school kids that they don't care about learning so I'm not going to treat them but it's like yeah they are at the top of their field but it's also like these students want to be there but yeah there's a whole I never went to post-graduate school none of us really did that right none of us would have wasted our time going to graduate school or law school or anything. Hey I have a doctorate. It's the wrong kind of doctorate and my wife will remind you
Starting point is 00:38:11 repeatedly that it's not a real doctorate but it's called a jurist doctorate god damn it and I do technically have a title. I don't get to be called Dr. Bob but you have to call me Bob Esquire. Bob Myskerm Esquire. That's me baby. Depending on subject matter, I do get teachers being difficult. Like I had some really tough teachers in high school, but they were like difficult but fair. And I think that's where the line needs to be drawn. You need to be fair about it. My philosophy of sports teacher, not fair. The questions he asked
Starting point is 00:38:38 not fair, nothing to do with learning, nothing to do with learning the subject matter or approaching it, nothing to do with philosophy. It was about finding the most obscure fact, putting it on a quiz or a test so that you would likely fail the test because he didn't want people to have an easy time. But like if you're preparing people to go to like med school or you know, it's like boot camp, right? There's some fields where it's like you got to be ready for things. If something horrible happens, you have to know and be able to react quickly like, oh, I got to stop the bleeding. I'm going to be able to do this. So I get things like that where it's like crucial that it's difficult
Starting point is 00:39:08 because you need to be prepared for those situations. But like you said, some professors literally are just there to be smarter than you remind you that they're smarter than you not care about teaching you and just want you to get it. I had a teacher in philosophy. It was logic. I think it was called philosophy logic where it was basically like mathematics in philosophy where it was like you had to solve these like logic equations and he was brilliant. One of the smartest people I've ever actually met, like he could just see, he was one of those people like with the things flying around, he would see this complicated equation, he would like know the answer, like he could just immediately break it down and see the answer and he would write the answer down because his brain just
Starting point is 00:39:43 worked in that logic way. But for us, we had to like write it out. It would be like 30 steps to figure out the final solution. And you could tell that he was frustrated that it took us longer to solve things than it took him. Because it seemed like he had things that he wanted to get to, to teach, to talk about, to have like peers to work with him on to actually solve
Starting point is 00:40:03 that none of us would ever get to the level of being able to do. So he would teach the 101s or whatever, the 100 level classes, and you could tell he was just bored out of his mind going over the basics because his brain was just operating on a whole other plane of existence than teaching basic logic rules. What a dick. He wasn't even necessarily intentionally a dick like some teachers like you mentioned, Art, but he was just, he just wasn't like, he wasn't social, teachers like you mentioned are but he was just he just wasn't like He wasn't social. He had no social skills He was a he was bad at communicating but like you could tell he knew what the fuck he was doing
Starting point is 00:40:32 He was a good doer not a good shower. I'm a I'm an academic grower not an academic show or they call me It's also, I remember what I was going to say, it's that test taking is not an accurate representation of knowing the subject matter. No, no it's not. It's rote recitation and actual execution of it. I'm an excellent test taker. I'm a pretty good test taker too, because yeah, that's kind of the thing where I learn best by doing, and I think everyone does, like it's really easy to solidify knowledge that occupies all of your senses.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Like you see it, you hear it, you touch it, you interact with it, you taste it if you want. Did you know, we talked about this before, you can look at anything and you can imagine how it would be to lick it. To lick what? You can know the texture of anything by looking at something in your room or on the wall and imagine licking it And you'll know what it would be like to lick it Have you ever done that made yourself uncomfortable like if there's like a screw sticking out of the wall you might yourself licking
Starting point is 00:41:32 Like you hit the screws like you can feel it cut your tongue. It's like oh fuck. No. Yeah, I can totally do that That's that requires no visual imagination. It's just as purely sensory thing Can you feel yourself hitting something unexpected to like you're looking like a wall? I guess what I'm imagining it if I I'm like, oh well, I would I wouldn't I would lick around that I wouldn't lick that. That's what I think. I don't think oh no a screw. I can't steer There's no brakes on this tongue Yeah, no, I just wouldn't lick the the sharp thing I would lick elsewhere or stop before I got to it is what happens in my mind. But, you know, everyone thinks differently, I guess.
Starting point is 00:42:12 It's like in my brain, my tongue can go anywhere. This sounds very sexual, this conversation. As a person with a toddler in my house, I could tell you, it's a very base human instinct to want to lick stuff. It's an interesting way to figure out sensory things and figure out what the deal is with stuff. Because your fingers only feel so much when you're licking and putting in your mouth and tasting.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Whole other world of experiences. You can learn a lot by licking stuff. Go out there and lick your dreams, everyone. Lick your dreams, lick your nightmares, yep. I like your theory, Mark. Is there a thing that you don't know what it would be like to lick? And I'm not saying like, oh, what's it like to lick like lava or something but
Starting point is 00:42:47 like like I'm thinking right now I have a I have a desk pad on my desk it's like kind of a neoprene kind of thing. I'm not a hundred percent confident because I've never actually licked it. I don't know what it would be like to lick this in the same way of like I don't know drywall or is there anything that like you don't know how it would be? I mean it's all basic house stuff so I can't really see anything too crazy. So I really don't know. Lava I guess I don't know what it'd be like to lick that. Not good. There's no brakes on this tongue. I can't stop.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Maybe that thing would happen. What's it called? The Leidenfrost effect? Where a barrier of steam would form between your tongue and the lava and you'd get like, it would be like really slippery and it wouldn't burn you. What about like certain textures? Like if you feel like a velvet fabric with your fingers, I imagine if you licked it you'd have a different experience than you would with your finger because I feel like the liquid on your tongue would change it a bit, but I can't fully get it, but I feel like it would be- Wet velvet is kind of gross. I don't know if I've ever felt wet velvet, so I don't know if I can-
Starting point is 00:43:44 My brain can't quite go there to wet velvet right now. I have actually licked velvet in real life, I can tell you, so I do know that one, but that is a weird one. I need no further information anyway. That story can end there. It was a pillow, okay? It was a pillow.
Starting point is 00:43:59 Calm down. It was undies. Is there velvet under, would that be so weird, the feeling, oh, I don't like the texture of velvet. It's filling up between my thighs or driving me nuts. Oh, God, it's horrible. What's this episode about? I never got to my topic because Mark was like, I want to keep talking about VTubers.
Starting point is 00:44:15 And then we went into, we've gone everywhere except for my topic. We've, that was the, that was the postponement, but literally we never got to my topic. And now we're like, so I got to save my topic for a different day. We, this just ended up being like dudes, we haven't talked in like two weeks. Let's catch up. Did you give any points who what's happening? I do have points. Is it time? So just go ahead and go through the points. I mean, it's your those I don't know. I'm just should I end this train wreck of derailment? I guess I can I should have known by my intro that This this was gonna go off kilter today can i just say i really i really enjoy we've had i feel like we've had a few of these episodes recently where the small talk just
Starting point is 00:44:49 dominated the entire episode and we got to like an hour in and we were like oh i guess we'll just send it there i enjoy these a lot these are very fun too and i was also surprised when the first one of these came out i was like oh the subreddit is gonna hate that shit they're gonna be like this episode's about nothing not a word everyone. Not a word. Everyone was like, yeah, just as funny as ever. Who needs topics? These are good for us because it's like, we just get to catch up and talk about whatever we want to. It's just like our friendship time just coincides
Starting point is 00:45:14 with like content time. We're like, let's just catch up like friends do, but also I guess film it and let the world watch. And I think that we get to just genuinely talk about whatever the hell's on our mind. And whenever you have a passion or something, like an idea that comes to mind when you just talk about it It's less like forced into like thinking about a topic
Starting point is 00:45:29 I don't know how to describe it to lick each other's brains for a bit I dream there was an episode where you were like putting things in your mouth Bob Oh, no, wait, though. There was an episode where Bob was putting things in the mouth. I remember that there was an episode where I It was the ICC or something and I've made a joke about that and I was like if we ever do video We'll do an episode about me putting things in my mouth. That was a lie The subreddit has been talking about that since forever. You don't want an episode of me putting things in my mouth one I have a small mouth too. That's not that interesting There's not even a lot of stuff in my office that hasn't already been in my mouth
Starting point is 00:46:01 So sorry to pop your bubble on that one, but I didn didn't mean to crush you, subreddit, but now you know. No, no, yeah, subreddit, now you know definitively. Suck it. Yeah, this has been fun. I've got a topic for next time, that's cool. I mean, I'm a topic ahead, and I guess I can go ahead and share the points and we can see where we ended up.
Starting point is 00:46:19 I currently have me at minus two for TikTokvies, TikTokvies, TikTok movies, I don't know. Something about the... That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. I lost two points for it. Bob, I have you at 11 points for baby roller coaster, beans, no brakes, grower not show her. Those are the notes I wrote. Mark, I have you at 12 points, which I guess is one more than Bob for wheat IMAX Vtube Call college nips. That's not what it says call in Oh Killian Killian nips Killian Killian Murphy's nips
Starting point is 00:46:55 And then I just have dot dot dot by points. I don't know what that means, but dot dot dot points I'll take them really extensive note-taking. I appreciate the details Look, I did about as good as I normally do. Mark, you win by one because Bob asked for a point count and that's where we were at. So congrats. I guess that's where this one wraps up. Do you have a winner speech? Uh, yes, probably. I mean, I have to, right? Not really. I could give you a winner speech. No, no, no. I don't want any kind of technicalities coming in on the bylaws that maybe I don't fully understand. I really got to read that Constitution, you know Nah, that sounds like it's dead wasted time speaking of the season is ending right? We need to have a season winner
Starting point is 00:47:32 No, we are gonna postpone that I thought we were gonna we were gonna roll the end of the last season into the beginning cuz it was only it ended It was already happened. We could go back and just retroactively have a have a season seasons one through three champion tell you what I hosted this episode I'll declare myself season champion I think maybe the numbers might actually be in your favor because I have not won a lot towards the last few weeks you both say that but I swear when I look at the thing it looks like we're pretty like rotated through pretty clearly wait I'm pretty sure you stole ten wins from me and thus our way ahead and also I'm way behind
Starting point is 00:48:05 Yeah, and we were gonna do that because we're gonna give us a chance to reset. Okay, so I think wait All right, wait is the winner I hereby as winner I I'm humbled by this win and I feel like I I do deserve it but I feel undeserving and I promise to one day reach the lofty heights of deserveishness that is Encoupled with the winning status of me Bob do you have I'm gonna call this a not winner speech cuz I'm not giving loser speeches this year or ever again Cuz I'm not a loser. I just didn't happen to win this episode
Starting point is 00:48:41 That's okay, because it goes on it never never ends. This this not winner speech is sponsored by me. I'm here to tell you about me. Me is good. Me is on the internet and me is available on many places. Just find me at them and watch me do them and you will enjoy it. I guarantee it as me I can tell you me is good Me.com slash distractible. That's me.com Slash D I S T R A C T I B L E going there right now wait Well, you know, I don't want to steal your thunder weight, but I'm going to you know We can say for the first time in months truthfully What? truthfully Don't tell me that say it again, I don't want to make any empty promises, but I'm like name 90% sure merch exists
Starting point is 00:49:31 I got bad news. You know how we've been saying the website link. I think it's different Refreshing the editor definitely put it on screen visually and also definitely used an AI voice to say it correctly or something like that. Just a text speech doesn't have to be AI. Microsoft Sam. Or editors, record your own voices doing impressions of us saying it. Yeah, Sam, use your own voice. I'm your boss, you have to do that. Anyway, uh...
Starting point is 00:50:01 Damn, the boss card coming out from Bob! Distractable store.com Anyway, no, I think it's true. I think that's real and that's my point That's it for this one where there was no topic. There were no rules There were points and there was two winners kind of you can find us online Mark and Markiplier, Bob at MySkirm, me at Minion777 or LordMinion777 like Bob said merch Mark will be hosting the next one. well maybe we'll have a topic. Maybe it'll just be more of us chillin', killin', talkin', Killian Murphy style.
Starting point is 00:50:31 Killin'? Stay tuned for that. Until next time, don't forget to tip your nips.

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