Two In The Think Tank - 178 - Fleetwood Mac, The Making Of 'Rumours'

Episode Date: March 20, 2019

Released in 1977, 'Rumours' is Fleetwood Mac's eleventh album and would go on to become one of the best selling albums in history. But being the scenes, the band were really struggling during the recording. With two inter band relationships splitting up, a whole lot of affairs, a ridiculous amount of drugs and very personal songs written about each other... it's a miracle they were able to record anything, let alone one of the greatest albums of all time.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodSubmit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] tickets to Matt's stand up show (in Perth, Adelaide, Brisbane and Melbourne) with the early bird discount code: dogoon via mattstewartcomedy.com/gigsCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLZ3_Y93BJ4HvwiawUKHCeuBXYWzc1d6Mmhttps://vintageking.com/blog/2017/11/fleetwood-mac-rumours/https://www.soundonsound.com/people/fleetwood-mac-go-your-own-wayhttps://www.ranker.com/list/true-stories-behind-fleetwood-mac-rumours-album/melissa-sartore

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here with Jess Perkins and Matt Schuert. Hi Dave, hi Jess. Hi Matt, hi Dave, hi. That third hi was for everyone else, not included. Greg in the corner there. I think I'm going to go through every listener. Greg, Jerry, Jessica, Sandra. Well, you didn't let me finish. Greg in the corner there, Sandra up in the crawl space, above us. Oh God. Is that what that is? It's very hot.

She should not be up there. Sandra, who's milking a cow. I mean, you already said Sandra. She's milking the cow. What, there's one Sandra in the world. So, yeah, milking the cow in the crawl space? Yeah, you're right. I'm the idiot. Thank you. That's all I, I'm looking at the cow and the cross person. Yeah, you're right. I'm the idiot.

Thank you. That's all I was asking for. Finally, God, it on tape. Oh, there's the only one saying in the world. Oh, that's my impression of Matt. Oh, it's good. Spongebob. Thank you.

Sorry, how are you talking to yourself? How are you talking to yourself, then, Matt? Oh, this is my personager of Matt. Is that your person? Well, that's really good. Yeah, your impersonation of gesturing and impersonation of Matt. No, that was me talking. Oh my, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Hello. Oh. Is that off? Not at all. I'm not here at all.

I'm not here at all. Great to be here back in the studio after having some good fun in Adelaide. Adelaide. Adelaide, more like Adelaide fun place to be. Adelaide, Thurison board, if you want to get in contact with us, Matt can write your slogans. Matt, how much are you going gonna charge to write a slogan? 70 70 100

$7,100 Hmm, I'll accept your offer He's a good negotiator Yeah he is and a good copywriter Hmm Hey, I tell you what we had had so much fun at Adelaide. Why don't we do it again in Melbourne, but four times? Oh, yeah, that's a good idea.

Yeah. On Saturday afternoon, I've enrolled us in the Melbourne International Comedy Festival, Late Entry. Oh! This is like a school? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We will be studying between three and four pm on Saturdays, starting... I like that.

Not this weekend, the weekend after, and March 30. I like an hour of study a week. Yeah, but on Saturday That's when the bad kids are at school. Yeah, it is a detention anyway and But tickets are on sale if you want to watch us do our homework live on stage We're gonna reenact the breakfast club. I'm gonna be the one with red hair Yeah, okay I'm gonna be the jock. You're the little nerd weedie. I'm I'm a neuro-melio, hesterfes, I believe. Yeah. I'm also the jock. Ooh, double jock.

Like, that makes sense. Second jock. So I think Jess will play the body of the jock and you can maybe play like all of you squished down together in a big coat. You can play the head. and maybe play all of your squish down together and a big coat can play the head. Right, so the head is wearing a big coat. Yes, scarf. The eighties fashion and the eighties is very different. So what Mark calls a scarf.

Oh, it's got a big neck coat. It could be toasty. Well played. We'll check on my feet, coats. Yeah. And we're ready. Just time up with these laces. Foot coatsaces Foot coats

Shoot coats, but we are doing for sure as a development international comedy festival at the European beer cafe starting not this weekend The weekend after and we're going right through every Saturday for a row going to be a great time But only gonna release probably two out of the four at least one Probably two on the patreon feeds if you want to see them all if you want to hear them all and see them all come along Yes, and I was talking to a guy named Nick Mason. He was sure he showed an interest of Jumping up one of those I probably should have told you guys this weird. This isn't used to us off mark Anyway, that's something we could do if we want. I like that sizzle now. I'm excited I'm excited for which day should we release the Mason?

I'm excited for the prospect of not having to do any work that episode. Right because he is very funny. He's very equip funny Yeah, he's the equipiest in town. Yeah, well, we make him write the report as well You're saying 100% God, I mean, maybe we have to do one each. Yeah. Oh, I wasn't think we'd do that I was actually gonna get Matt to write mine to do one each. Oh, I wasn't think we'd do that. I was actually going to get Matt to write mine. Fertical. So. I'm a fantastic copywriter. Is that cool? Yeah. Sick. I can kind of pace off Wikipedia for you. You probably might be as good a quality as mine, because my heart won't be in it. Yeah, that's about right. My report's on. I'll send you a link to your heart. Is an in it. I'll send you a link to Wikipedia page. There you go. And I'll say you are a

lifesaver. Now, we must go on the record that we do more than Wikipedia research. That's right. There's a little secret. Every time it's a comment about it's like, no, it's not. No, that is so good. I mean, there's definitely some YouTube in there as well. Yeah, YouTube podcasts, that at least sounds high tech. Yeah. And biographies.com. Oh, yeah, love biographies.com. Britannica.

I love Britannica. I'm also a big fan of. It was the Al something that you used to... Alcation. Alcation. Alcation. Listening back to last one's patron episode about Scotland. Yeah, you've two...

I'm big on Alcation. One of the BBC and the other was Alcation. Oh yeah, BBC is good too. Two of the big ones too. Big fan of BBC, ABC, any of the B.C's. Love it. He's old school. Yeah. He's B-C.

Yeah, I love the before Christian era, B-C-A. It's modernized. The four common era. Fuck. Cardiorn idiot. Sorry, everybody. Hey, I'm also doing a show at the Comedy Festival ads. I think right now I might be in the Brisbane Comedy Festival.

Dave's all right. Am I up in Brisbane right now? Yes, I can see you. Am I via satellite link? Yeah. Come through, LatinClean. So I'm on in a pretty small room there, so potentially you already sold out these shows.

I have no idea, but... Alright, it's just a really like whole lotty fucking stuff. Alright, Captain Bragg. And it's a pretty small room, only 400 people. So I probably sold out in my whole run. I don't even know the money to save. I've probably sold every available ticket. No big deal.

Are you doing 22 at the Melbourne Company Festival? I assume 21 are sold out. What's the non-sold out night? Oh, probably a Wednesday. Please do come along to both of those shows. And also in Sydney, at the Sydney Company Festival, and you come along to both of those shows. And also in Sydney at the Sydney Comedy Festival, and you can find out all about those shows. Boundry at Matsu.com.com slash gigs.

But yeah, Brisbane, I'm been a bit facetious. There's probably good chances to get available. So I'd love to see you there. There's also a good chance they can put this old out. So if you want to get tickets, jump on them quick. Brisbane's a shorter run in a smaller room, so... And he's a massive star. Yeah, I shan't very bright.

Like a diamond. Yeah. Or a little diamond, bro. Like a diamond. Anyway, let's do the show. Now we've got the plugs out the way. It's time to start the show. It is my turn to report on a topic suggested by some listeners. You guys don't know what I'm going to talk about. Now I put this up to...

No Dave, we don't care what you're going to talk about. See my yet different. Listen to about that. But I put this one up to the Patreon votes. My turn at the moment to have nearly all the patrons voting on my topic. And I said it would be a musical topic because you guys have done a lot of museos between you, we've done the Beatles, we've done Bowie, Johnny Cash, Pantera, Pantera, which is...

Rihanna was recently from Naomi. I don't think I've done a musical one. So I've... Elton John. Elton John. Freddie Mercury, I've done a lot of music. Yeah, you've done a lot of musical ones, but I don't think I have.

So I put three museo topics up, over 500 votes. Whoa. The difference between first and second, six votes. Whoa. It's so tight. That is so tight. And this is... The story of a girl.

Gratitude. Gratitude. And why she looks so bad. Good photograph. Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm a little bit more in the world but I'm a little bit more in the world and why she looks so bad because of the photographs absolutely lover when she smiles Is it about that song?

Yeah, we ruined it. I was going to tell that story but really draw it out Why tell it when you can sing it? Yeah A two, three All right, my question for you is because we do get onto the topic with a question if you're on you here The question is ever get onto topic. What is Fleetwood Max Best Selling album? Rumors. It is rumors. Mark up that straightaway. Sorry, that's top 10 all-time high selling.

Absolutely it is. And yeah, that's maybe even top five, it's super, super big. Believe it was currently number eight. It's a lot like greatest hits. People would know most songs without necessarily, I've not really listened to a lot of Fleetwood Mac, but I know so many of their songs. And your mate, Neil Finns, in them now, is it your mate? Why is he my mate?

Paul Kelly's your mate, and he's mate with Paul Kelly. He's a friend of the French. Yeah, I do love Neil Fin. Yes, same. So Fleetwood Mac has been suggested by a few people, and I've decided to hone in on their most famous and probably craziest recording story for rumors, which we will get to, but it's suggested by Kiran

from the south of England, Mimi Zhang from Edmonton, Alberta and Canada, Sean Lannigan from Derry, McKenna, Middle Book from Potstam, New York, Mitchell Simpson from Christchurch and New Zealand, and Abbey Mylock from New York who suggested I do rumors, not everyone I said Fleetwood Mac, but she said, talk about rumors. I'm doing it, Abbey. Nice. I shouldn't be surprised by the quality of Mac, but she said, talk about rumors. I'm doing it Abby. Nice. I shouldn't be surprised by the quality of names,

but yet again, they have delivered, especially Mimi Zhang. Oh, I love that. Oh. They're all fantastic though. Fantastic. You think so? All these absolute legends. So, have you heard rumors then, Matt?

Yeah, I've heard a rumor. I heard rumor. Is that off that? I've heard rumors. You've heard rumors that Matt. Yeah, I've heard a rumor. I heard rumor. Is that off that? I've heard rumors. You heard rumors about you. You have to eat wood mac about me. What have you heard? Because if it's sexy, it's true. It's definitely not. It's the opposite of sexy. Oh, okay. That sounds very unlike. I don't know why people are spreading unsexy rumors about me. Yes, I've heard rumors by Fleetwood Mac. You guys, you see, you're not a huge Mac fan.

No, not a big Mac fan. Remember when we were in the UK, and we would make a running playlist, and one of the rounds was Fleetwood Mac. Do you remember what you chose? Oh, I think I've put dreams in, I think. Which is from rumours. I went Tusk, which is, you told me later than the rumours.

The follow-up album too. Right. I might have gone for never going back. Which is? That's your motto. On Rommers. Ah. Rommers right there. So growing up, my dad, one of his favorite bands ever

is Fleetwood Mac. Probably three favorite artists, Deep Purple, Elton John, Fleetwood Mac. Growing up, I did not enjoy any of them. Put it on in the car and long trips, and I'd be like, oh my God. That's a great top three. Yeah, now an adult fan of all three,

particularly this album, Rumors. And a few years ago, there was something on at the Melbourne Fringe, and I knew someone that was producing a show that they had different measos interpreting every song from Rumors, because it was like, I think the 40th anniversary a couple of years ago.

And yeah, we went along to it, took my dad. Oh, awesome. What a bonding experience. Beautiful. Did he share the tear and say, I love you son? In spirit. Because that would have made Jess furious. Yeah, you would have hated that.

I would have had to have a word. Your dad's soft. I would have been like, give me his address. Just gonna pay a visit. I'm not gonna hurt him on the outside. Jess hates emotions. I'm gonna hurt him on the inside. With emotion.

Yeah. Something you hate. Yeah. I mean, I hate yourself as well. Yeah. Take him out with you. But do you know much about the recording of rumors? Because it's quite famous for the fact that

it was a bit of a tumultuous time in the band, despite that they came out the other side with the 8th best selling album of all time. I know a bit about the spreading of rumors. Ooh. I went to an old girl's school. Yeah, a lot of that. A lot of looking at people as they walk past you, like that's her.

You know, that's her. That's her. Yeah. What a head pointing. Yeah. Oh, so much. Don't look so much passive aggression. So yeah, I know a thing or two about rumors. I only vaguely know that there were relationships in the band and they maybe were going sour around this time. Oh, is that an understatement? It's a crazy story and we're going to get into it, but to give some background here, I think it would make first formed in London in 1967 and they were initially a blues band.

67? Hmm, how was it two years later? I wish it was a year before so they could have shared the year with the Saints' Premiership Success of 1966. No, you don't want to, the Saints deserve that all to themselves. That's true. That's true. I'm glad nothing else big happened that year.

Nothing. Beatles didn't release any sort of classic albums. New. England didn't win any big. No, no, no. Socketrophies. There's never won any big Socketrophies. No, they've never brought anything kind of as far as I can remember.

So they're initially a blues band. Guitarist Peter Green was the guitarist for a blues act called John Male and the Blues Breakers, where he'd replaced a young Eric Clapton. The bass player of the band was John McVeigh and the drummer was a man called Mick Fleetwood. No relation. No relation. I mean, coins are... I imagine.

T, do you? Yeah, so I've got to point out which one of these people are related to me. I imagine. To you? Yeah, so I've got to point out which one of these people are related to me. It's easy to say who isn't. Right, fair. Peter Green and Mick Fleet would have previously played together in a band called Shotgun Express that featured a young Rod Stewart on vocals. Oh man.

There's a lot of cross-pollination of the English rock bands. And a lot of the vibe is happening here. There's a lot of cross-pollination of English rock bands. And a lot of the vibe is happening here. There's a lot of future rock and pop legends. Right. Sort of all working it out. But all choosing real shitty band names. Shock on Express. horrendous.

John Maillan the Blues breakers. And we love her ender, but that sucks. The Blues breakers. Why are you breaking the Blues? Oh god. The whole breakers, that's something. Unless they mean like, blues, like, I've got the blues, like depression. Yeah, some breakin' out, I'm getting happy again.

Yeah, in that case, I'm on board. But is that a good name for a book band? We don't know the context. That's true. That's right, a formerly blue band. Inspired by the success of cream, the yardbirds and Jimmy Hendrix, three of the members of the Blues breakers, Peter Green, Nick Fleetwood and eventually John McVeigh decided to break

away from mail in 1967. They formed a band with Jeremy Spencer and Green, one day quips that they should call the band Fleetwood Mac, named after the combining the names of drummer McFleetwood and bassist John McVee. after the combining the names of drummer Mick Fleetwood and bassist John Mick V. Okay. So he suggested we should name it after you two. Yeah. Why? You know, I'd be like, gonna piss me in there too.

Yeah, I think they thought that was a little bit straight. Fleetwood, Fleetwood green sounds good. Sounds pretty good. But maybe it was just a modest guy. No, don't trust him. I reckon what was his play there? What do you reckon he was up to? He's up to no good.

No good. Okay. Well, he did put his name onto the band a little bit. In 1968, the band released their debut album and it was called Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac. Oh, right. So the only one missing out there is... That sucks.

Jeremy Spencer, the other guitarist, is a bit like, I'm also in the band. Yeah, so it's That is a little bracket that says Jeremy Feet Jeremy and then in the picture Jeremy's here to the rest of the bands and opposed a bit he's sort of breaking through it with his hands and Spirit fingers and Jeremy Classic Jeremy.

It was an instant success this album in the UK. It was in the top 10 for most of that year and told very, very well, but it was largely unnoticed in the USA. So I didn't realize that they're British. Do they bring in American members? You're gonna tell us all this real soon. Sorry, sorry, Jess. Shut the fuck up. But at this time us all this real soon. Sorry, Jess.

Shut the fuck up. But at this time, there were 100% made in the UK. Right. The second album, Mr. Wonderful. Ah! Still a blues album. Yuck. But they added in horn sections and their friend.

That, what were you thinking? They added in their horny spirit. It was a lot more sexual this time. It was very horny Yeah, that became a scar band The way I'm strong I'm pretty sure she's doing the full house theme when she skats. Oh, I'm scarring. Oh, you're scarring. Sorry scarring Oh, I'm scarring. Oh, you're scarring. Sorry, scarring.

Scarring your pants. Oh, give your scarring yourself. Give her a cloth. All right, they, they added in horns. Go to need a bigger cloth. I don't know, that is sort of like a jaws reference for some reason. But like in a British room.

Just like the Fleetwood Mac first. Well, look on on there. Of jaws. Yeah, a lot and also not a lot going on there. If jaws were set in England and they needed to clean up a big mess, I think it would sound a little going on there. Of Jules. Yeah a lot and also not a lot going on there. If Jules were said in England and they needed to clean up a big mess I think it would sound a little I would have been a big Vegas comic in the 80s. So it was something like this. We're going to need a big cloth. Governor. Thank you. And standing avation, bow, bow except flowers.

ofation, bow, bow, except flowers, drive off in your Lamborghini. Kissed and kissed nearest beautiful lady. He's looking at like a checklist in his hand. All right, who's up? So they added in horn sections and their friend Christine perfect played piano. She became close to the band in particular basis John McVeat. She married in 1968 and became Christine McVeat. Oh, that's so much better. I didn't think you could get better than perfection.

Yeah. But Christine McVeat is better. Good, great, perfect. McVeat. She sort of also married into naming rights of the band. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, she's naming rights of the band. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, she's now half of the band. Now there's two members that it's named after the Macbeth. And they've dropped the top half? Peter Green.

Peter Green? Yeah, so that was just the name of the album but the band was always Fleetwood Mac. It's a real weird name for an album. Mm. I guess in his mind he's like, who knows how long this will last? Yeah. Or probably never make a top 10 all time selling album?

I mean, my last band was called Shotgun Express. Who cares? Nothing can be worse. Checkmate. A singer and songwriter Peter Green started to suffer mentally after ingesting away to many hallucinogenic drugs and left the band claiming he was going to give away all of his earnings and he sort of just disappeared. We're not fully disappeared, but sort of just left.

Oh, he didn't just evaporate. No. We're not idiots, Dave. We have done full reports about people disappearing. What's that guy? The evaporating couple. Yeah, the first Christmas time. The 27 club.

Oh. Manic Street Preacher's guy that literally has never been seen. Yeah, that's sure does happen. Just people do go missing. Sure, but they're not a part of hot water that just evaporates. Well, pots of hot water also do. Wow, good point. I'm staying corrected.

A pot of the more likely will evaporate. Once I injected too many hallucinogenics, is that the version? And they hallucinogens. And my pot of hot water said, I'm out of here and it evaporated. So, you know, do with that what you will. How'd you cook your skinny? I said, I'm gonna need a bigger cloth for some reason.

I was high as a car, I was saying anything. That's when we knew you were high. He's cooking dinner, I'm gonna need a bigger cloth. All right, we're gonna need Uber rates. Matt's gonna be in there a while, and no food is coming out. Looks like he spilled his hot tea on the floor, and clean losing it. He's crying about it.

Jess is furious. Matt, don't feel anything idiots. So Petty Green's gone. He's evaporated. Don't feel anything idiots. So Petty Green's gone, he's evaporated. Christine McVeigh, who had initially retired from the industry upon marrying John McVeigh, planning to live as a housewife. I was laughing there for the record at Jess's face. Oh, what was the face I was reading?

I was just pure disappointment. All right, so she had initially retired from the industry, planning to live as a housewife too. Yeah, because you didn't do anything do anything. You know my husband now. She joined she went from housewife to being in the band full-time as co-lead vocalist and songwriter. That's quite a change. Quite a change. John didn't write the songs, so they were like, oh, Peter's gone. Mick doesn't write the songs. We're gonna need someone to write the songs so they were like oh Peter's gone, Mick doesn't write the songs. We're gonna need someone to write the songs.

Wife put down that large cloth and come and be in the bed. Yeah. I mean that's not fair actually. Sorry, I was a little, I was, I was, I was just, I get mad because that was the expectation at the time. Now if that's just your choice, more power to you. You say your pro choice? With band members retiring? Okay. I think anyone can do whatever they want and you shouldn't listen to a dumb podcaster. Hey, hey, hey.

With a stupid opinion. Hey. I'm gonna go too far the other way if I have kids and just be like, I'm gonna get another job. And then I'll just never see my kids. I'll show society. Yeah, I'll show them. No. Oh show them take this patriarchy No one gives a shit. I'm gonna work myself to death. Yeah, that'll show all of you get a job in a mind

27 hours a day. I'm never gonna see my kids because fuck them. They come in like mommy. I'm like die look at me I don't know what that look like Literally can't see him. They've while on tour in February 1971, so Christine's in the band now guitarist and other vocalist, Jeremy Spencer said he was going out, quote, to get a magazine, but he never returned. He's like, the dead meat does. He's going to get cigarettes.

After I'm going out to get cigarettes. After... I'm going out to get a... a... magazine. Yeah, that's it. A magazine. A magazine also means like a bunch of bullets, doesn't it? Oh, shit, Dave. Which one was it?

Were there any big bank robberies that weekend? Oh my god, Dave. Well, after several days of frantic searching, the band discovered that Spencer had joined a religious cult, the children of God. Some magazines. He had also. And that's about a real great brochure.

He had also taken a lot of drugs and refused to continue touring with the band. They're on a tour. He goes out to get a magazine. Apparently, he met someone who he just found really convincing and he was looking for something in his life of that. Like a charismatic cult leader.

Yeah, and to this day, he still remains a member of that church. Oh. Oh, a world is that. That's cool. That's cool. I love dedication. I love that he's still alive. Sometimes cults don't end that well. You know, so we're taking a lot of drugs. Most of the cults that we mention on this podcast do not end too well. No, we really should find a nice cult. Let's get a good cult just so we

can be like not old. Not old cult. Hashtag it. Yeah. Thank you. So now he's gone. You guitarist needed Danny Cohen became the other guitarist during this time and his tenure with the band ended in 1972 when he too had a meltdown. He smashed his head into a wall, smashed his guitar and trashed the dressing room before a gig all because he thought one of the other members was out of tune. He refused to go on that night and just heckled the band from the mixing desk. He was fired. Oh, he stayed and heckled. Don't people deserve a second chance? He stayed and heckled. Yeah. He was also whacked out a lot. Basically, he was young too, he was only 19 at the time,

and they're like, he's a really talented guy. Great guitarist, but he cannot handle the rock and roll off stuff. So now that's three guitarists that have all lost it. I'm a little bit like the band from the spoof, the drummers. Yeah, the spinal stuff. Got to do it. Yeah, they are exploiting, they kick exploiting.

The next guitarist, Bob Weston was fired after he had an affair with Mick Fleetwood's wife, Jenny Boyd, who sister Patty Boyd was married to George Harrison and would later marry Eric Clapton. Yeah. Oh man, she has great taste. Yeah, amazing, right? Go patty.

Patty. Patty. Patty boy, but we're talking about Jenny Boyd. I know, but I'm just saying, patty, I mean, do name yourself, but that's a terrible name and you could change that. Patty, I like it quite like it. Patty, patty, patty. Like a burger.

Oh, the more I say it, the more, patty, patty. Paddy, patty. Like a burger. Oh, the more I say it, the more I hate it. Paddy. Beatty, beatty. And I'm saying that and I call you Maddy. So take from that what you will. Paddy cake. Paddy cake, you know, you got cow patties, which is couch-y.

Oh, that's true. That's true. I'm sorry. You got all beautiful things. Paddy boy. Jenny Boyd, we're doing a Jenny boy. Jenny Boyd hadn't affair with Bob Weston and she was married to Mick Fleetwood. This affair led to the cancellation of their planned US tour.

Their manager wasn't happy with this and decided to continue the Fleetwood Mac tour without Fleetwood Mac. Good. He put together a whole new band under that name claiming that he are into the name. He could have it. He just put together a whole new band and then they would, they turned up to the gigs and people were like, that's not Fleetwood. Did what did the, I'm guessing there was a ruling saying

that that was not the case? Yeah, they sued him, yeah. Sorry. Sorry. You can't just claim to own the name. That would be written down somewhere with some signatures. It's like, my name is Fleetwood. I'm a Mick Fleetwood.

It does happen though, like Little River Band, well they all did quit it and that was in writing in a contract, but there's a band going around America calling themselves Little River Band who don't have any original members while the original members like, oh, we'd like to be the Little River Band again, but they all quit the band.

That's a real heartbreaking one, but it does sound like legally there, as you know, it's in black and white unfortunately. You know about that story? No, I did not. Yeah, because I were about to play, because I were about to have a big like 30 year anniversary and I was going to plan Jimmy Fallon or something. And the original members were like, we'd prefer if you didn't have this weird cover band play on your show to celebrate when we started our band. Oh. Happy birthday, other guys whose name we stole.

Dendendendend. You didn't write any of the songs. You started your going around playing them legally without name and yeah, that must be frustrating. Yeah, that's not cool. But also they did quit and gave up the rights of their name. So I don't think you can. Yeah, I mean not cool. But also they did quit and gave up the rights of their name, so I don't think you can

Yeah, I mean these people aren't quitting. They're just going hey that guy banged my wife I'm not gonna go on tour with you exactly and it's my band So no one's going on tour and the man it is like people were notice. Yeah, they don't know what bands look like They just have a long hair in this era put them on to put on some long hair dudes Somehow through all these ups and downs, the band managed to stay together and the different lineups released nine albums between 1968 and 1974. So they went through all those guitarists who all lost it in different ways and left to do other things. Did they go through a lot of the songwriters as well? Yes, so nearly all those guitarists were

the songwriters, them and Christine McVey on piano. So John the bassist and McFleet were the drummer. They're the long term guys, but they don't write any of the songs. So Fleetwood still put Max gone? No, Max still in there. The two Max are there. Yeah, so basically that's all that's left now.

So all of a sudden their name seems really smart. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe they're more invested because the name's right. True. So they've had some success early on and then they just sort of just kept going, kept going, kept going. And in 1974, with the hopes of restarting their career, the band moved to California. They're only remaining guitarist Bob Welch left that year in 1974.

He Welched. Leaving only members. Droma McFleetwood, bassist John McVee, and his wife, keyboard player, vocalist and songwriter, Christine McVee. Their marriage was also incredibly strained because of John's rampant alcoholism at this time. Oh, John. So they're all very much living the rock and roll lifestyle. Yeah, it doesn't feel like any of them are really handling it.

The rock and roll lifestyle seems like it sucks. Are you going to be fun for a night? Yeah. And then the rest of the time, it's like, I swear, fucking cup of tea. I know. And like it sucks. Are you gonna be fun for a night? And then the rest of the time, it's like, I swear fucking cup of tea. And like eight hours. Yeah, you can have that cup of tea, you're just gonna have half a bottle of bourbon for us.

And then you've earned yourself a cup of tea. It does, it feels like a massive trap. Like, because the problem is, it's all your works at night time. So you're like, I don't have to get up. So it's just like, and it just rolls on over and over and you're drinking to get rid of the hangover and it's very clear.

You're gonna sleep, good bed. But apparently, I believe that most of the wrong sounds don't really drink anymore. And I heard rumors ages ago, the album. And I don't know if this has been confirmed or not, but Keith Richards would still be swigging from a bottle of bourbon but it was really just tea or something in there and they'd be sitting backstage drinking cups and saying. Well that's his image, yeah right. But I'm pretty

sure he's even said he doesn't, he can't really live like that anymore. No one can. Yeah. But at the age of like 23. You're living out this fantasy of everyone else. You're being who they need you to be. No. Be tricky. Oh, have I? That's why so many people die. Young or seemingly. Have I just ruined my rep then?

No, I think people knew. Yeah, everyone knows you're weak. I'm not weak. So tell me have another drink of tequila. It's not weak to not drink dine. Oh yeah, God, I love that. That's the good stuff. Matt's straight to the gin. Oh yeah. Jess, she's got nothing. She's sober and a loser. Come on. Come on. Just get into the vibe. No. Okay. Okay. She's pretty good at avoiding peer pressure.

Yeah. Well done. I'm actually very stubborn. So as soon as people start to peer pressure me, I buckle down. Yeah. Even if I wanted to do it, and if you like, No, do it, do it, then I'll be like,

Fuck you, no. So like the plane starts going down, you're the emergency, right? People like, Help us open the door. Well, if you're all gonna tell me to do it, I'm not gonna do it. And then I put on an extra seat belt.

You're wearing two seat belts, huh? Just try and get me out of this seat. I said that arms close, like, fuck you, fuck you then, you can fuck off. No, fuck you, fuck off. No one's told you don't fuck yourself, no, fuck you, no, fuck you. Um, Bryce, yeah, I'm not gonna brace.

White stops that, brace, brace, brace. I'm not doing it, you can say it as much as I like. I'm not gonna brace. Wait, stop that brace, brace, brace. I'm not doing it. You can say it as much as I like. I'm not bracing. Don't even know what it means. I do not listen. I still the band managed to stay together in the Mipke, California and Mick Fleet would begin the search for a new guitarist and co-lead singer. Whilst Fleetwood was scoping out South City Studios as a potential recording spot in Los Angeles, the house engineer Keith Olson played him a track that he'd recorded in the studio. It was called Frozen Love from the album Buckingham Nix released in 1973. Buckingham Nix was an album by a duo consisting of American singer-songwriters and lovers,

Stevie Nix on vocals, and Lindsay Buckingham on vocals and guitars. guitars, multiple guitars at once, very impressive. He's pretty amazing. So he's one of his feet, one of his hands, one of his balls. Really? That's definitely the most impressive. No, from fact, his balls are left-handed. So two guitars go this way and then the other one goes the other way. That's cool. That's cool for symmetry or something. balls are left handed. So two guitars go this way and then the other one goes the other way. Oh yeah. That's cool. That's cool for symmetry or something.

It just looks a lot better on these balls. Yeah. It looks better on these balls. Rock and roll is all about the image. Yes. Despite the fact that Buckingham next to the album had been a flop, Mick Fleetwood liked what he'd heard and approached Lindsay Buckingham and asked if he wanted to join Fleetwood Mac.

Lindsey agreed on the provisor that they also bring on board his musical partner and girlfriend Stevie Nicks. They were a package deal. He said loyalty. Yeah, I liked that but yes, Stevie Nicks, she doesn't sound too good. I bet she's going to suck. Yeah, she sucks. I bet they're going to rule.

They're going to rule the day. My pick now is at Stevie Nicks sucks. I bet they're gonna rule the day. My pick now is at Stephen X sucks. Yeah. Well, they made a deal with the devil. Yeah, Stephen X. Mick did. He agreed and now the band had five members. We've got Mick Fleetwood on drums, John McVey on bass guitar and rampant alcoholism.

Christine McVey on piano and vocals, Lindsay Buckingham on guitar and vocals, and Stevie Nicks on vocals. Two women in the band, oh, disaster! Their periods will sink up. And they'll both be crazy at the same time. Oh, no. For a few days a month, we don't talk to them. Because they go a little bit.

We put them in a little cage. We lock them in a hotel room. Yeah, they're a bit too much. Obviously our rampant alcoholism's fine. The rest of them are. Oh, I mean, that's 31 days a month, even when the month only has 28 days. Yeah, they're just drunk 31.

I feed in a couple of extra. Wait, you said that this was gonna be a report just about rumors. Yeah, it is. Okay. This is all a rumor. Oh, okay about rumors. Yeah, it is. Okay. This is all a rumor. Oh, okay, sure. Please, Matt, come on.

Come on, Matt. Sorry, I need a grip. I need a grip. When you look at the rumors bit, but it would have been, I mean, all that early stuff, it's something to take off to the story. Oh, I call you Maddie Boy. Now I'm gonna call you Paddy Boyd.

Thank you. Yeah, shocking name, Paddy. IE or Y? Double TY. I'm gonna call you Patty Boyd. Allmusic.com describes Stevie Nix as bringing something new to the band with a quote, a husky voice and a sexy hippie gypsy stage persona that gave the band a charismatic front woman. I knew that. Roo. Yeah. I quite sure. Yeah, she sounds like bad news. Stevie and Lindsay both wrote songs and so did Christine McVease. So now the band have three songwriters and three different vocalists. Interesting. Too many? I mean, we have three vocalists and it's exhausting. And let me just say,

And it's exhausting and let me just say Barbara Oh fucking hell let me hang in there. Why don't you join in? How did what happened? You just said Barbara in yeah, yeah, it's just a joint forgot sake you don't get you guys haven't been in bands like me I get it. Oh yeah, weedwacker or whatever. The weedwacker express. Weedwacker express is a better name than weed hornet. This new lineup released their first album together in 1975 called Fleetwood Mac. Sometimes referred to as the Fleetwood Mac white album.

I like the mid-career self-titled. Yeah. It had a much more pop orientated sound than the earlier blues stuff and slowly became a huge hit reaching number one in the USA in 1976 on the strength of the singles over my head and say you love me written by Christine McVeigh. Love me, love me, say that you let that one here. Absolutely not and Stevie Nicks penned the song ReAnnen. ReAnnen, ReAnnen, I never knew that a galuck you could ever look so fine.

Reannun. Correct. Yes, the album sold over 5 million copies in the US alone, so it was a big, big seller. So they'd finally cracked the big time. Here we go, now they're going to fire Stevie Niggs. Well, they went on... She is troubled. They went on an extensive tour and were now raking in

the cash. So now they're quite wealthy. But there was also pressure from the record company to come up with their new album, the next thing. Jesus, God answer his pants, doesn't he? This record label, man, I guess, thanks. For the record, just give me a thumbs up. And there was also a hell of a lot of internal pressure going on with the relationships of the band members. Here we have the famous relationship troubles that Matt alluded to. Oh, Matt alluded. According to Christine, the McVees were happily married for about three years. As I said earlier, when they had initially married, she said she was going to retire

from the music industry altogether, but then Peter Green left the band and she was invited to join. So now her and her husband are living and working together all the time in a very stressful but also very rock and roll job. So they're rock and play in a rock band. Well, they're all drinking, they're all doing drugs. It's a stressful job. Do you think of it as a rock and roll job? Well, I mean, I arguably, I'm level, surely. It's all about the lifestyle. It's not like podcasting, which is a real rock and roll job. Oh my God. It is.

We've got Coke coming out our wazoo. Can I put a bag in there? She had to get spawn out of my was so So Christine wasn't happy with the marriage so she began to affair with Martin Birch fleet would max married sound engineer in 1973 John McVee was drinking heavily by now and she was saying quote more hide than jekyll oh Hides a bad one right. Yes, mr. Hyde. It's not always this bad. Jekyll's his dish. Jekyll and Hyde.

I like that. That's fine. So he was getting his ass out more than he's doing. Yeah. All right, let's make love. All right, it's Mr. Hyde. All right, John, I don't know what you're into. Yeah.

This is not what I signed up for. Mr. Hyde. What she doesn't know what you're into. This is not what I signed up for. Mr. Hard. What she doesn't know is that he lost his penis in a poker game. He hasn't had the balls literally to tell it. Yes, and now he's like, how about we try something new? Just thought, this is all I've got, Christine. This is all I've got. Love me for me.

Get in there. Ah, Christine, who was having an affair, was pretty open to the bad at all. And she even considered leaving the band to make a solo album with sound engineer and love the birch. But then he went back to his wife and she went back to John. That's romantic.

Going back to someone is so romantic. Well, love a left, so. I'm back, I guess. Showing me a butt. to someone is so romantic. Well, I love a left-side. I'm back, I guess. Show me your butt. On the last tour to promote the self-tired album, I was talking about earlier. Christine decided to break out with John for good. So they started divorcing in the middle of the band's tour.

They started divorcing. After eight years of marriage. Three good years, though. Three good years. Five. Not all in a row, either. One on one off. One on one off. And then Three good years. Five. Not all in a row. So one on one off, one on one off, and then two bad ones. Okay.

As soon as we have two bad years, I feel like quick. Yeah, I think that's fair. She said, look, I know it was bad timing to divorce you in the middle of the tour, but I can't stand this anymore. John did not take it well and started taking more substances and displayed increasingly erratic behavior. According to one biography, he would pace up and down the hotel corridor at night, yelling Christine's name, while she hid in a room and cried. What would he yell? Christine! You can see what he didn't

sing. You can see what I do. Oh, it's so beautiful. The couple stopped talking to each other socially and discussed only musical matters. That's good. Keep it business. So off stage, no chat. Yeah. The only things I would say to each other is stuff like, sorry, what key is this song in? See, okay. Business, business, business.

Business, that's all I did. Not that. Then there was Stevie Nix and Lindsay Buckingham, the other couple. This is a quote from Stevie Nix. Lindsay and I were in total chaos a year before we met Fleetwood Mac. I had already moved out of our apartment

a couple of times and then had to move in because I couldn't afford it. Our relationship was already in dire straits. But it was, oh. Did these bands really do? They're the first ballin' out of love. They're all hanging out. But if we'd broken up within the first six months

of Fleetwood Mac, they would have been no record and we would have been in big trouble. So when we joined the band and we took the decision to hang in there. So they're staying in the relationship for the band. And also that means Buckingham cut a deal to bring in his partner who was sort of he wasn't even getting on very well. Yeah. So that completely on again off again and apparently constantly fighting. And finally, Mick Fleetwood, who was a little bit out of a band relationship, but don't worry, he gets his own dose of turmoil because he was now divorcing his wife, Boyd. Remember, she hadn't affair with the band's earlier guitarist, Bob Weston. So it's very,

very messy and they had to go straight from touring into a recording studio to record their next album. It really seems like they should go straight from touring into a recording studio to record their next album. It really seems like they should go straight from touring into therapy. Oh, that's so dust, doesn't it? Oh, dearie. So the band started recording their next album in February 1976, with the hope of releasing it in September and then going on another big tour. Stop touring! It was decided that they'd record it away from their homes and they'd go to the record plant, a recording studio in Sorcerlito, California. Sorcerlito.

Sorcerlito. That is fun to say, Matt, have a go. Sorcerlito. Oh, he does it so well. So, over the Golden Gate Bridge. Do you have any idea how old the members are at the stage? Because in my head, because you know, they were old when I was a baby, basically, or they seemingly were.

So in my head now, they're still like, you know, they're my parents age or something. Right, no, they are all in their late 20s. Right, so it's kind of, yeah, going through a lot of stuff. You're in your 20s. You're also millionaires. Are you just million about them? Well, him and me at your millionaires. Uh-huh. Okay. Okay. And he's still wondering. I'm seeing a lot of similarities. Okay. Yeah,

having affairs with each other's partners. Yes, I'm all right. Okay. I've read that with the broom. You've got multiple big albums. Okay. Okay. Photo albums on my bookcase. Oh, I've got music albums. For those who's the world's coolest story photos. And you're about to go on another worldwide tour after recording an album in September? Can you just let me know if you talk about me or the band? Yeah, do you mean the worldwide tour does that count?

Cosamellian Test or podcast festival? Yeah, I was talking about UJS. Thank you, I was just about checking. Can you just keep it on track here? That's a lot of correlations, because I think at the time, the band were doing similar things. Oh, okay. Well, there you go.

Sorry, I wasn't listening for the long half an hour, so I don't track the whole time. Oh, so they're at the record plant. Christine, McVean, Nick, who had grown quite close on their recent tour decided to live in two neighboring apartments near the city's harbor. Well, the three men of the band stayed at the studio's lodge in the hills nearby.

I don't think it was there to see, like the man said, you go, you go do your thing over there. I think that's what it was. No, I think I might have been like, yeah, I don't want to hang out with you guys anymore. It might have been like, oh, sorry guys, two bedroom apartment. Oh, no, we really wanted you to come here too. But there's only one other place available and it's on the other side of town. So we're going to do that. My name is. Sorry. Audio engineer's Richard Dashett and Ken Kelly were hired to record and produce the album with the band. Richard Desheh or Deshehut.

It's called Desheh. Desheh away. We got Desheh and Calle. Oh hello. Okay, that's it. We're doing that. Our Richard Desheh had previously- We're not doing Desheh away. Well, you can go fuck yourself.

Well, we've got to do Richard Desheh, Ken Calle away. Thank you. That's good. Ken Calli away. Thank you. That's good. Ken Kalei away. Kalei away. Kalei away. I don't know what that is. Really changed everyone. So we got Richard Dache, Ken Kalei. Richard had previously worked on the Buckingham Knicks record I talked about earlier. And Ken Kalei, fun fact, is the father of Grammy Award winner Colby Kalei. Oh, that. Oh, never heard of that. It starts in my toes. Yeah, I know that.

I looked her up. Yeah, I do. I was like, I remember that song now. I've looked it up. It was probably off an ad for a supermarket or something. Okay, I reckon. Oh, they pay well though. Before the recording, Mick gave each of the engineers, Richard and Ken and old Chinese

Ching coin and said good luck. Wait, what? They're into sort of holistic and hippie things as well. Like Chinese coins. Yeah, they like all the hippie. They know they like that. Yeah, have a dollar. Oh, here we go.

Hippie Dippy. No, they're just like new world-y type a dollar. Oh, here we go. Hit the dippy. No, they're just like, they're like new world-y type things. They surround themselves with that kind of stuff. Like China. Like China, and it works. Oh, fuck up, you know what I mean. Anyway, he gave him the coin. He was being a whanker in other words.

And they gave him the coin for good luck, which I didn't work at first because the rumours session did not start well. It took the engineers Calais and Dashai 8 days just to find a bass sound that they liked, and in the meantime, they nearly got fired. They complained that the windowless studio B that they were recording in sound are dead. They tried experimenting with different mic placements and amplifiers trying to make a bigger sound, but they couldn't capture the massive live sound that the band were hoping for. To me, it sounds like they didn't know what they were doing,

because this is what this is them reflecting on it years later. Quot, everything sounded like a miniature person. We were splitting these miniature instruments. And we were just pulling our hair out. Richard and I tried everything to make the sound bigger, but nothing would work. You could have seen the tan of the volume. Well, nothing would work. I think I just need to turn up the volume. Well, okay, listen.

Finally, I got pissed off. I said, God damn it, what the hell is going on here? I literally just started turning knobs. Within about five minutes of doing this on a track, we were trying to cut. It was sounding great. So yes, they literally said to turn it up. Great. It sounds like many people playing time with a quiet instrument. I can barely hear that.

I can't hear, shh, grab that fucking Chinese coin. That's great, while the coin worked. How did they get this gig? Was there already a huge band? I think these people have already recorded albums before. Not, yeah, but albums that didn't do well. That's right, because you know why? Because on the radio, people like, sorry, is that a guitar or? I think the radio is cut out. No, it's before. Not yet, but albums that didn't do well. That's right, because you know why?

Because on the radio, people are like, sorry, is that a guitar? I think the radio is cut out. Is that a tiny, tiny man? Someone's whispering softly. And catchy, got a cool beat. Nick Fleetwood heard that and went, I want that miniature man in my band. The band jammed live in the studio and Mick Fleet would often play his drum kit outside the studio's partition screen, so they're all like looking at each other, but he's on the

outside. So he could make eye contact with, engage the engineers, reactions to the music's groove because he wanted them to like it. At first they thought that they were just being hired to basically hit record and that the band would produce it themselves, but then they started asking them questions like, which take did you like? And they were like, oh, I actually have to concentrate. Oh, that's right.

It's not what I signed up for. Yeah, right. So then they ended up being quite a producer and having big roles in the actual sound of the album. But Lindsay Buckingham became the real creative force behind the recording and had a real vision for even for having an even popier album than the previous one. During the formative stages of compositions Buckingham and Christine McVeigh played guitar and piano together to create the album's basic structures. Christine was the only formally trained

musician of the group but her and Buckingham really complemented each other well with their songs. Oh dear. Okay. And they're gentle. Well. Wait, is one of these, the one without a dick now? No, that's John McVee. Oh, John McVee, sorry. And Christine hasn't seen a dick for a while. Except for that sound engineer. Yeah, true.

Yeah. But it's always room for more dicks. Yeah. When, whenever someone says, John McVee, we play this one in D, he would run out of the room. Right, yeah. And they'd all be like,

you why do you keep asking me to stop? Put it in A. That's what he wants. Put it in A for A. I got one of those. Also the three vocalists, Nick Spuckingham and McVeek all heard voices that blended perfectly to create amazing harmonies.

And this became a real secret weapon for the group. I mean, it's also a secret. You just said it. So obviously other people knew to write it down for you to then read it. No secret weapon before it was released. Oh, okay. Mick Fleetwood had removed all the clocks from the studio and it didn't even, it didn't have any windows, so nobody could tell what't even, it didn't have any windows.

So nobody could tell what time of day it was when they were recording. And that's when someone said, we're gonna need a bigger clock. Why didn't they just check their phones? I think it was sent a little something. I like it. If George was about time.

Yeah. They're like, these tiny people have all these tiny clocks. They're like, these tiny people have all these tiny clocks. Ah, drugs and alcohol were flying left, right, and center. The UK members, Mick Fleetwood, John and Christine, apparently preferring alcohol. The US contingent Buckingham and Nick's preferring marijuana. Buckingham kept a big tape box full of pot at the studio, and he was apparently always seen rolling a joint. All right, that's the original odd couple. You like marijuana. I like coke. Was it coke?

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Bags and bags of coke. Bags and bags. They would work 15 hours a day and then try and start at the same time the next day, but every day the time blew out because they worked so late. And they didn't have a clock. They didn't have a clock. And this kept happening until eventually one day,

they started their day at 10 pm. Oh dear. Because it slept all day. Soon they were working until 4am every night, until they decided to take the next day off. But after they did this once, they felt like they'd lost too much time. And from that point on, it was decided that they would have no more days off. Uh-huh.

That's a bad idea. I was thinking I was going to have the opposite effect where they go. Hey, that was pretty good. Yeah, that was more days off. The beach was really funny. So to pick themselves up, they started taking cocaine. They saw no alternatives. They were taking it.

They saw no alternatives. It's like a good night's sleep. What? I'm sorry. I don't understand. Did you say coke? Is this another American English thing? We don't have that.

Have you guys eaten any actual food today? Sorry. Are you racking up some coke for me? I'm sorry, what are we doing here? Chris Down, the owner of the record plant studio, recalled the situation 20 years later. He said, quote, the bad would come in at seven at night, have a big feast, party till one or two in the morning,

and then when they were so whacked out that they couldn't do anything, then they'd start recording. Okay. That sounds like a bad time. But all of this led to like one of the biggest albums of all time. Sure, but like imagine, I'm imagining the opposite. It's one or two movie tropes, right? There's either that they're completely whacked and then they pick up instruments and they're

really good, which it sounds like it is. Oh! Stop playing the friends theme song. But I want to look, I want to look. Oh no, we recorded the friends theme song again. Well they pick up the instruments and then they hit, they're veryatter, it's backwards. Yeah, it's like a hit record. That sounds great. Yoko, what do you think of this?

Plink, plunk, plunk. Screamed in the little recording machine there. LAUGHTER Mick Fleetwood, the drummer famously once estimated that if he laid out all of the cocaine he'd ever snorted into a single line, it would stretch for seven miles. What a weird brag. I could have done seven miles of coke.

They spent millions of dollars on the stuff. It's over their lives. It's ridiculous. He later wrote, quote, the tales of excess are true, but we'd all be dead already if we weren't made of stronger stuff. Which is kind of true because several of the earlier members I mentioned being part of the group, the people that have the breakdown. A lot of those people are now dead and died in their 50s and 60s, but these five core members are all still alive. So I don't know if they actually are like quite

strong constitutions to survive this kind of stuff, but yeah. Kapate, I'm going to bed. Oh,, I love tea. Yeah. I love bed. I love bed. I love bed. I love peppermint. I love peppermint. I don't mind a peppermint. Yeah, I love a peppermint. I'm an El Gray man.

I'm a herbal girl. Ooh. I've got a passion fruit and high biscuits tea in my cupboard. Holy shit, it's good. I can't get my head around that. Yeah, it's amazing. I don't know. So, will you American?

That's British? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's amazing. So, what about you, American? Matt's British? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Ah, yeah. No, Matt. You're supposed to say I'm British. Hi.

Well, I went to, you know, I said, oh, well, yeah, I'll have a cup of tea and do it. I realized, you know, like that bad pulmacan, anything I had to do occasionally. Very good pulmacan. I realized recently, I'm impersonating, I heard Dana Carvey do it on a podcast recently. I'm like, oh, I think I'm impersonating

Dana Carvey impersonating Paul McCartney. So you've been, you heard only recently. Yeah, I'm wondering if I ever heard it before. I'm not that I remember, it's very funny. He, um, you know. Ha. The band were taking so much co-occurring this period that they considered thanking their co-dealer on the album's credits.

Wow. But unfortunately, he died. Quote, unfortunately, he got snuffed, executed before the thing came out. Fleetwood wrote in his first memoir. He got killed in a gangland killing. They're just having multiple memoirs. Yeah, he's that's his first one. Wow, I'm going to write at 80. Come on. One and done. Get it all. That's what you took away from that story. Wow, he's got multiple memoirs. Be more efficient, Mick. Come on, mate. You're a drama

in some band. They kept their cocaine and develop it, bag underneath the mixing desk and would take a hit anytime they felt tired recording engineer mr. Calais Pranked them one day when you pretended to drop the bag and spilt fake fake cocaine all over the floor and apparently the band wanted to kill him Ah, but it sounds like they have so much of it. Yeah, what a confusing world they're living in you have to go and get more right I can't, I can't. What a prank. Did they, I think I saw it on punked.

Yeah. They did that on punked. Yeah, when they exposed, I saw every, if painful cocaine addiction. Yeah. Oh, check this out. I've got your coke, Mel Gibson. Oh, no, I've spills it everywhere.

Oh. Allegedly, Dave. I don't, I don't know if that's common knowledge. That's never happened. Not Al Mel. He's never had any troubles. Don't tell me. Not Mel.

No. Not Mel. He's been so good for so many years. What's your favorite Mel Gibson role? The Bavar. That's where he had a communicator with a B beaver puppet. Yes. Was that any good? Yeah. Yeah. For a male Gibson film. Oh, my favorite was Gallipoli. Oh wow. I'm gonna have to watch that. It's hot. Followed closely by what women want.

A really good movie. He really turned narkey campaigns on their heads. Just do it. That was him. That was him. That was Mel Gibson. That film is actually a documentary. A lot of people think it's a fiction. I didn't.

No, I know. I'm just saying. Oh, sorry. Some idiots. People stupider than I. Yes. Dave Tugan. So amongst the music and the drugs the relationship troubles continued

Christine McVee would sneak a new boyfriend into the studio just as John was walking out another door Christine had now started dating Fleetwood max lighting director curry grant Curry She's so close to carry grant. Yeah I think he's named world's carry grant, but now he's like, fuck, I got to change it to... No, no. No curry. Did anyone else get hungry then?

No. Oh man. I'm peckish. For some curry Grant? No, chips. Always want chips. Chips with a garlic known on the side. Oh, I know, yeah.

Talking. Hmm. Her ex-husband John McVee did not take the breakout well and started working out with band groupies back at what Mixley would describe as a Bored L.O. Without with blacked out rooms thick-shag carpets deprivation tanks and a very liberal sprinkling of assorted drugs There you go. That's awful. That's where they're staying. Yeah, don't sound fun. Does it? No, give me a balcony Capity yeah a balcony, cup of tea. Yeah. A fucking blanket. And 9 p.m. I'm going to bed.

Have you started a place that wouldn't give you a blanket? You sound a furious about that. Yeah, man, I'm gonna give you a blanket. Give me a fucking blanket. Give me a blanket! Don't be unreasonable. I think all these places would have those things too. Okay.

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Have you eaten? Then have you? balance. Yeah. They don't like to have you in, then have your gang. Yes. Honestly. What we've learnt more modern times about the rock and roll lifestyle. And this instance, have your Coke and eat it too. Eat it being healthy. Yeah, maybe a digestive biscuit.

Yeah. A lensy-bucking-am and Stevie Nicks kept fighting about everything. One of the producers recalled the way they had to record one of the songs. I remember them singing background vocals to you make loving fun, sitting on two stalls in front of a pair of microphones, directly facing me on the other side of the control room glass. And if we had to stop the tape for whatever reason, during the few seconds that it took to be re-wound

They'd be shouting and screaming at another I'd be thinking go tape go tape hurry hurry. That's it. Play because he didn't play in that go Stop it like you fucking maggot. That's amazing Such pros. Yeah, that does sound there's something really kind of admirable They are really dedicated to the music about faking it. Yeah, just to be, there's something really kind of admirable. They are really dedicated to the music. About faking it. Yeah, just to be able to get through it. I imagine many others would fall apart in the second census.

Then there was drama Mick Fleetwood. He wasn't banging anyone in the band. So it was fine. Right? Oh no, Mick. He was banging his drums. That's what it calls his balls. Fleetwood maxed reputation for burning each other was well known. No, Meg. The bang in his drum. That's what it calls his balls.

Fleetwood Max reputation for burning each other was well known, and was starting to be constantly written about in the media. It was played out for laughs on their first rolling stone cover, which depicted the entire band in bed with one another. Legendary rock and roll photographer, any Libavits took the photos. She said, I thought it'd be nice and polite, and I brought a bunch of cocaine for everyone.

That is very polite. She British or American, that feels like real British hospitality. American, there you go. You say like, bring a plate of coke. Just make it a mirror. The two ex-couples in the band didn't want to lie next to each other.

Christine Lay with Lindsay Buckingham, and Mick Fleetwood Lay with Stevie Nix. And on the other side of the band, John McVee can be seen lying alone holding a plate boy magazine. Bit of fun. Yeah, that's fun for John. They had to lie there for three hours. And in the time, Nick spent snuggling with Fleetwood. They made a deep impression on each other. Fleetwood later wrote that the shoot caused him to realize that he and Nick's had quote definitely known each other in

previous lives. I told you he's a wanker. Nick Fleetwood's a wanker. He believed in some of this. But they were in bed for three hours. And finally getting some rest. Did you say made a deep impression? Yeah, that's what I thought too. Did that what they said? Well, they not wearing pants. Eventually, they also began an affair with or without pants.

Without pants. Scandalized. So everyone of the band has slept with at least one other member. Some two members. Wow. The dream. I'd want to sleep with every member and then I'd get to it and be like, oh it's only me left. And then I just have to go and stand by a cliff. Oh my credits roll. That's the end of your memoir. My one memoir, Mick! The final fapping chapter.

Ah! Does I fapping right there? I believe so. By that you mean looking off into the middle distance? Yes, I am my memoir fapping into the distance, yes! Sipping a cup of tea whilst having a good fap. I thought to myself, yes, I've done it. Fap, fap, fap.

That's it, great, it's wrong. There was also tension between band members that weren't having sex. bassist John McVey and guitarist Lindsay Buckingham fought a lot too. And McVey reportedly threw a glass of vodka at Buckingham's face on one occasion. So they're sexually frustrated?

Or do you mean that they're not having sex with someone else in the band? Or they're just not having sex in general? No, sorry, they're just they're not having sex with each other. Right. But maybe they should. But still, basically everyone's fighting at some stage.

Yeah. All the members thought about quitting at some point. As Stephen Nextleta said, the music was so good it kept us from flipping out. It has been up yourself. Oh, this music is my favorite. You won't even give it to him now, I'm glad it's such a big classic album. A bit arrogant.

Tall poppy, here they. It's in Australia and why. That's right. Yeah, you're believing yourself. Get out. A national floral here they. See Australian way. That's right. Yeah, keep believing yourself, get out. And national floral emblem is the tall puppy. It's our national sport. Cut them down. No.

Don't stick your neck up or your head. Maybe. Dust your neck. Dust your neck. Your neck's fine. Just stick your neck up. Try. Try to get just my neck up.

And it wasn't just a relationship drama that the band had to way through the recording itself had problems one thing that hadn't counted on was because they're recording to tape back in those days every time they played it back it slowly began to wear out this wasn't usually such a big problem because bands didn't spend this much time in a recording studio back in the day it smashed it out live you know the first Beatles album they're recording in a day but. Back in the day, you'd smash it out live. You know, the first Beatles album, they're recorded in a day. But they'd played the tapes back so much that the tapes and recordings began to lose all definition. They noticed when they played the drums back and they couldn't tell the difference between the kick drum and the snare. It just sounded like, boom, boom, boom, boom. They're like, okay.

So they had to go back. Did they need to turn the volume up? Yeah, yeah, okay. So they had to go back. Do they need to turn the volume up? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two of us. He doesn't have to do it. He doesn't have to do it. He doesn't have to do it. Define that shit. Oh, they had to go back to the original recordings

and a specialist was hired to match the original tracks using a VSO, a very speed oscillator to get them all in time together. So you had to listen to different tracks and slow them down or speed them up. So everything, one at a a time and it took hours. Six hours. Actually, I was talking to you documentary. They were talking about how epic this was and I'm pretty sure they said it took him 14 hours. It wasn't even that long.

He comes in, he goes, yep, okay, no worries. I'll have him on your desk tomorrow. Yeah, okay. Well, it took us eight days to be able to find the volume button. So that's pretty impressive. Really good. But this and other delays, because it took so long to write and record the album, they meant a sell out autumn tour of the US had to be canceled to allow the completion of the album, whose schedule release date of September 1976 was pushed back. So. Now, all of a sudden this album's so expensive, that pressure is building,

having a canceled tours because of it. Yeah, so that's costing money. The record label was like, we're spending millions of dollars on this. The cost of millions or one. You're spending all of the profits on Coke. So if it flopped after all this, it would have been a disaster.

Must have been feeling some pressure. Yeah, totally. But they also sound like they fully believed it. Yeah. At least looking back, I imagine there must have been some doubt at the time. Yeah, it's so easy looking back to be like, yeah, we knew it's held 40 million copies anyway.

A strange side effect of living so intensely, but still making this music together was that they were talking to each other through their own songs and lyrics. Mikaela said the only drawback was that John couldn't talk back because he doesn't sing. So the other three songwriters that are all singing about each other, but John just has to go boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah, you hear that?

Is that impression of the bass? Yeah. Very good. Thank you so much. I played for many years. Did not touch the D string, though. It did not. No, you didn't have one. It's all on the A.

What I'm going to do now is just go through the album song by song. Will you sing them for us? Yeah. Thank you. To avoid copyright. I will do a bad job. Usually. But you'll have to put in the effort to do a bad job. Yeah, of course. Yeah, because you're an angel

Sing them all to the tune of one of the classic brown hornet. No, what's your bank? We don't wait on it songs I mean you've got never knew yeah criminal decisions. Yep Yeah, there was Yeah, three songs. I band had like two end covers. We recorded. I can, I can play it to you. We recorded an EP at a recording studio. Yes, you will play that to us. Yes. I'm trying to think never knew. That's another one. You said that already. Oh, has that one. That was the first thing he said. Anyway, we don't hear it so bad, we don't want it, but... Anyway, one day we'll do the biopic. I will do the massive, massive report, the six hour epic. Yeah.

Because it will take me that long to remember the fourth song on that album, that record. Anyway, so Rumors had 11 songs over two sides on records as they were back in that day, and it goes for just over 40 minutes in total. The opening track of the album is called Second Hand Use. My favorite part of Second Hand Use is that I like to imagine that they were like, all right, we just need a chorus for this. Somebody go step away, write the chorus, bring it back. I'm like, I wrote it, don't worry, I got it.

And they get into the recording studio. And it's just, ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-ow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-bow-b-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch the rules, they're piling us. They're piling us. They're scratching chairs. They're doing it. They're bap bap bap bally. You know what I mean. Yeah, they are with each other and other people. And chairs. Oh, John McVee put his A on that chair. Oh, so. There's never a data put there.

But if he did, he would. He'd put his A on that chair. Our next track on the album is Stephen Xpend Dreams. My opinion, Fleetwood Max Best's song. And the public agreed it became the only number one song for the band in the US and sold over a million copies there. And it goes Dave. Higher and higher, straight up we'll fly.

Bamp bamp bamp bamp bamp bamp. Higher and higher, we'll be higher. Van Haewen, Sammy Haewen. Oh yeah, of course. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it.

And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. And I'm going to sing it. in sliced stone and included a sunken bed and Stevie wrote the song in the bed on an electric piano and apparently it came to her in 10 minutes. She recorded the song on a cassette and instantly knew that she'd written something good. She recorded in 2009, it was a rough take just me singing solo and playing piano.

Even though he was mad with me at the time, Lindsay played it and he looked up at me and smiled. What was going on between us was sad. We were couples who couldn't make it through, but as musicians, we still respected each other. That's one of those amazing albums, you know, like so many classic albums would be a partnership or one key songwriter. But this is just like through a crazy series of events that led to these five being together. And then all of them have written bangers, like all type of great songs.

It's amazing. And Lindsay later said you couldn't think of five more different people with the personalities, but somehow when he put us in a room together, we made good songs. Wow. The song dreams is in part about Lindsay, the opening line is, now here you go again,

you say you want your freedom. Well, who am I to keep you down? So she's singing about him there. Track three is an acoustic number sung by Lindsey Buckingham called Never Going Back Again. It's all about Lindsey meeting a new woman. To achieve a brighter sound in guitar tone on the acoustic guitars, producer Kale had studio texts

change the strings on Buckingham's guitar every 20 minutes. Whoa! The roadies were not happy about this. They were even more pissed off when they realized that they'd recorded all the guitar parts in the wrong key and they had to do it all again the next time. Oh my god. But I love that song. I think it's probably my second favorite song. I love it. After Dreams. The next track was another hit written by Christine McVe. Don't stop thinking about tomorrow. Oh, right. He's just banging her after banging it. It reflects her feelings after her separation from Fleetwood and Max Bass guitarist John McVe after eight years of marriage. She later recalled, don't stop was just a feeling. It just seemed to be a

pleasant revelation that yesterday's gone. I'm not sure that he's playing bass while she's singing. I'm so excited that all that's behind me. Yeah. You me. Well, and it's right now. It's beside me. The song became the theme music for United States presidential candidate, Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign and he used the song Lots of Times over the years. Sort of became his theme song. Don't solve the emat tomorrow with you. Track five, another hit. Go your own way. You can go yeah, I have a video of you singing that song. Where were we?

At the old studios. Really? Who downstairs in an office, you hadn't had a lot of sleep and you were sitting on a table seeing that song, not realizing I was feeling you. Oh, if it's any good, you should release it. It's not good. And passion. So yes, I'll release it. You should have read about it in just this first memoir.

How many haven't, three? Yeah, like a tripditch. I'm like a, I'm like a bell. I believe in trilogies. So she said, she, she, oh, like a trip ditch. I'm like a I'm like a bell. I believe in trilogies. So she said she. Yeah, I just heard it. Yeah, I just played a clip of a bell.

I believe in trilogies. That one must have been one of that's one of the biggest ones, but these are all like huge. Yeah, these are. I don't know. The track one is probably not a huge shoot song, but it's pretty well known.

Oh, I can. I'll. Oh, sorry. Second hand news. Yeah, yeah.'s pretty well known. I like it. There we go. Album track. Oh, sorry. Second hand news. Second news. So far, the singles have been Dreams. Don't stop and now go your own way, which was released as the album's first single and helped to build hype for the album because it was a hit.

Lindsay wrote the song about letting Stevie go her own way and both of them moving on even though they're finally at heart. The opening line is, loving you isn't the right thing to do. Love you. Oh, man. It's good. Another one of the lines is packing up, shacking up is all you want to do. A line here refused to take out despite her objections. This is what she said to Rolling Stone years later.

I very much resented him telling the world that packing up, shacking up with different men was all I wanted to do. He knew it wasn't true. It was just an angry thing that he'd said. Every time those words would come on stage, I wanted to go over and kill him. He knew it. So he really pushed my buttons through that. It was like, I'll make you suffer for leaving me. And I did. Oh, that's a good idea. Like, since I would have read that, Lyric is meaning on again, off again, packing up one to leave and then checking up again. Yeah, now I was with other people, if you say. Yeah, that's, well, that sounds awful.

I don't think you'd get away with a kind of behavior at all. Is he calling her a slut? Is that sort of like slut before slut was a thing? I don't know. Well, I mean, he's not, he's not, is he saying it's good or bad? He's just saying that she's focusing on it. That's what you want to do. You want to do.

Look, I'm not, I'm not in a great position as a, you know, a celibate man. I don't, I shouldn't really comment on such. Not by choice. Well, hang on, no. LAUGHTER Couldn't bloody get any if you wanted to. That is not true.

It's true and you bloody know it. Celebrate this afternoon anyway. Celebrate for the last 40 minutes. We've been recording for over an hour. Yeah, I mean, flapping boys and girls. Oh, there's a few little regrets creeping in there. Alright, so that's all my ideal element, starting now. Okay.

I'm so sorry. I just couldn't do it, I'm out. That's our own, the bet. Great episode. I'm out. Crimer laying down the cache on the coffee table or the table or whatever. That is so funny. Classic Cramer sort of laying it down from so anyway.

Just the final bit on Go Your Own Way, which was written by Lindsay. Lindsay was driving one day when back home in LA. When you heard the song played on the radio for the first time by DJ called Be Mitchell Reed, who was quite influential and had a lot to do with going over to the UK and bringing the Beatles back to the US on the radio and stuff. Be Mitchell introduced it as the latest Fleetwood Max song. Lindsay was loving it, grooving along, feeling accomplished to hear the first single on the radio. Then it came back to Reed and he said, yeah, I don't know about that one. Oh. So Lindsay was taking her back.

So Lindsay drove to the studio. What admitted him? He called the studio during the next song and they put him on air and he's like, hey, it's Lindsay Buckingham. I just heard you play my song and he's like, oh, hi, Lindsay. And he's like, why didn't you like my song? And Reed said, I just couldn't find the beat. Ah, luckily Reed was wrong. It became the band's first top 10 hit single in the US.

That's pretty embarrassing. It was murdered. That I wanted to find unknown person. An unknown curly-head guitarist. Does it seem like a weird play to call up and just so like so publicly show how insecure you are? But obviously didn't affect but people can I mean it's very subjective. Yeah people are to be like no I'm digging no one love no one in the world no song in the world is love by everyone. No. Have you heard weed on it? Oh, sorry. Yeah, have you heard your voice when you say weed hornet fast, it sounds like weed on it.

Is that fun? Was that part of the fun? Yeah, that's part of the fun. What are the, it's an, a bear name that's funny the first time you hear it. The less funny it's time. It's time, yeah. Weed on it. Weed on it. Weed on it.

Okay. So good. I know that my, one of my best friends in the world, Tom Mitchell, singer of Weed Hornet, listen to this podcast. So shout out to you, Tom. Shout out to you. Tom, Weed Hornet reunion. Can we make an effort? I'm just saying. Tom, let's make it happen. Let's get T-shirts. Could we do a live show sometime where Weed Hornet played the after party? That would be so, so good. Who else was in weed hornet?

Rowan on drums. Sure. Rowan, are you still in contact with Rowan? Yes, I'm a score reunion a few months ago. Cause if he's not in, let's get on to Mick Fleeck. Mick, I think. Bobby. You know, Bobby.

You've been looking for a band that will take you to the next level. Yeah. I think we got it. You can write a third memoir about this chapter in your life. Don't stop thinking about tomorrow, Mick. Yesterday's gone, and yesterday is Fleetwood Mac. Yeah.

Tomorrow is Wade Hornock. Yeah. Where the future baby. Well, let me know if you want to see some Wade Hornock reunion. Was that interesting? Let's review. Oh, and Jamie Younger. Oh, cop that, Jamie.

No, he was the best. Okay. Where's Jamie now? Haven't seen, he moved schools. I haven't seen you evaporated. Yeah, but he was, oh my god, he was such a great guy. Derek can you be up for a reunion? Oh, of course. If I said a buy a drink. Not me personally. I mean like the do-go-on business. The Royal Eye. Yes. Yeah, the Queen will buy him a drink. Is that what you're saying? Yeah, yeah.

I reckon we can. I reckon she could. What she does to do is wink her Royal Eye and a drink will be brought. John McVeigh wished he could wink his Royal Eye. But he didn't have one. Far from his Royal Eye. Far from his Royal Eye. Far from his Royal Eye. You should've been playing poker then.

That's on him. That is on him. Oh, poor John. Anyway, the final track on the first part of the album was Christine McVease Piano Bell and Songbird and was released as the B-side to Dreams. For you. It's basically just Christine singing beautiful like that. And there'll be no cry at her on the piano with a little bit of guitar at a delay.

Unlike the rest of the album, it wasn't recorded at the studio, but rather live at the Zella Beck ball auditorium in California. Is that the, is, you know, Avicassacity? Is that her? She covered that, I guess. I didn't even realize all the flit would work. Maybe I've never heard rumors. I probably haven't. Yes, it has been covered quite a bit. Yeah, right. Great song. Yes, so they recorded it in an empty auditorium.

Set the mood, the producer Kelly put a dozen roses on the piano and hooked up a giant spotlight. It was recorded on the stage in a completely empty room and the sound was captured with 15 separate microphones. Whoa! And how'd it be done in one take?

So Christine recorded it over and over again, all night until 7am, the next morning. I love that. How'd it be recorded in one take? So they had to do it over and over again. Ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Ha-ha-ha. Wow. We need to do the Jiminy Dillocker scene again.

15 microphones. Yeah, they were pretty excessive with everything. Feels like a bit much. We've only got three here. Wow, man, we've got five. No, I know, but we're only using three. Okay, sure. Because we don't three of us.

Yeah, but if we had a piano, we'd have a few more mics. Would we? Yeah. I know, I can. During that tour, ex-husband John McVe will watch her play it from the side of stage, and he'd weep every night. Later on when they toured, she'd asked, do I have to keep playing that every night?

And they said, of course, one of your best songs. She said, but I'm sick of crying. So she was also crying, was crying. Oh, but also, stop showing emotion, your big douchebags. Crap. Crap. Yeah, get over it. That is why I brought this story out. So the emotion.

You could bring it. Oh, they both cry, you audacious said. Oh, we crying. Get over it. Nodes. I think it's beautiful. No, it's weak. I cried once.

What? I cried. You leave this studio right now, yes's weak. I cried once. What? You leave this studio right now, yes, man. Do the same thing that what you lose a big game. No, I- Have you ever cried over football? I don't think so, but I've definitely been upset about it. You've cried. I don't have ever cried about football.

That's ruined your day. It's ruined my weekends quite a bit. There's still, if I accidently, I, in Perth, right, I walk past this pub and it was called the brass monkey. I'm like, I'm gonna go and have a beer. I look up to the screen, there's a replay of a Saints game. I'm like, this is my pub. Then I realize it's the Saints 2009 Grandfather where we lost in the last minutes of the

game. It's a big U-turn. Yeah. Put my finger out. Yeah. I thought that story was gonna go, you found what makes you cry, you saw a pub called the brass monkey and you thought,

two of my favorite things, drinking and primates. I can't get any better than this. There was anything more beautiful. Oh god, stop me. Actually, I was, yeah. I think I reckon most likely to cry these days on an aeroplane watching a movie Yeah, apparently there's something about aeroplane that I was feeling emotional. I always feel yeah heightened emotions

He has discussed me. I sat in between you on long flights. Yeah, not knowing I was sitting in between Absolute waspays. Oh, don't worry. I don't watch anything that will make me cry anymore. I just watch action films. Yeah. It doesn't matter what it is. The Incredibles 2 you're watching. We watched I- You watched it three times because you kept falling asleep.

And then you're hugging a pillow. You're... Yeah, it was so cute. So cute with the Incredibles 2 just playing on your screen. It's good fun. Hey Dave, I'm gonna wrap to protect. Oh, sorry, you're watching Fight Club or something. I knew a hugging a knife.

Rocky back in Baltimore went, oh these cute. Little cute pants. Anyway, what's... Cadm, when it comes. What's on the B side? Well side two of the album opens with The Chain. The only song from the album credited to all five members because it was made up of several previously rejected songs being combined. It has a really great John McVease line. Has that Loving Fun, which you wrote about her then boyfriend Curry Grant.

There's a bit of a shot at her ex-husband John. Oh, because loving used to be so difficult. It became the album's fourth top 10 hit. It was a chore, but now it's fun and something's changed. I don't know if I recognize it for name. It's a real lame name for a song. Yeah. You'd know if you heard it. Go on.

I just started and then realized I've forgotten most of it. Right. How does the chorus go? I think it's you make loving fun. You make loving fun. You want to fun the night away. Ha, ha, ha. I don't know what that is. You make me feel like dancing.

That's what it is. Leo Sayer. Now in Australia, not please. We've broken Dave's brain. Oh, I just, so I was just looking ahead because the next one I don't have anything fun to write. Track 9 is called I Don't Want to Know, written by Stevie Nicks. I love that song.

Oh, great, because it's gonna say... I don't want to know the reason why love is... That's all I've written about that one. I don't think I... Yeah, I don't think I know that one. It's fun. All right. The second last track is O Daddy.

Oh, I hate O Daddy. Really? I hate it. I skip it every time. The term, just the word daddy is... O Daddy, no, I don't like the song, but also daddy's gross. I do like, quite like the chorus of it. I skip it every time. The term, just the word daddy is. Oh, daddy. No, I don't like the song, but also daddy's gross. I do like, quite like the chorus of it. I Christine wrote this song about Mick Fleetwood

who was the only parent at the time. Right. Yeah, okay. And he's listed it as the song is one of his favorite Fleetwood max songs of all time. Of course, because it was written about him. That was about him. Near the end of the song, Mick V,

play some random notes on the keyboard. These were not originally intended to be part of the song, and McVeigh only played them to get the attention of the recordings' studios' control room, but the band liked them so much that they did not remove them from the song. So it's like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi, Oi velvet bags. Yeah, this seems very, it's like everyone's experience with the kids' drugs. That's what I was so big, I get my related. Diamond-incusted spoons, velvet bags. For me, it fitted right into the incense and candles and all that stuff. And I really imagined it could overtake everything, never thinking in a million years that it would overtake me. Really? Really? You didn't, that never could remind you.

She didn't count herself in everything. Oh, wow, that's sad. Again, therapy. I'm above everything, Max. Oh, okay. Come on. Also therapy, that's the attitude too. So there's the tracks. The album cover itself, it's quite famous and often parodied. The front cover of rumors was taken by Herbert W. W. W.

W. W. Then you just had a stutter. Herbert Wuerthington. Yeah, I didn't like that. No. This is called Herbert Wuerthington. Yeah. It features Mick Fleetwood and Stevie Nicks with Stevie dressed in her Riannen stage persona. Right. She'd created for the song Riannen, sorry Riannen, on the previous album. Another interesting note is the two balls that can be seen, seen hanging between Mixley and...

Certainly not McVease. Yeah, no, he wasn't invited to this shoot. So they're literally, if you haven't seen the album cover, they're sort of posing with each other and Mixx got this like stylized ponytail going on. It looks like quite a cool shot, but if you look closely at it, he's got these two brown balls that are hanging from his belt,

hanging between his legs. The balls are actually lavatory chains used to flush a toilet. Oh my God. Megan had a couple of drinks and he brought them out of the toilet, he broke them off the toilet and brought them into the photoshoot and they just stayed in the final shot. I was very destructive, I ripped them off the toilet and had them hanging down between my legs he later recalled. He loved a good dick and ball prank.

Oh, that's so mean for his fellow band member. Well, maybe this was a taunting McVeigh because he went through a lengthy period of placing a dildo on the top of his bass drum. Nicknamed Harold, the sex toy became a sort of mascot during the early years of the band. Until one day, when they were playing at an American Southern Baptist college, and they were nearly arrested for the sexual display. It's had a dildo on the room. That's cool. I'd never noticed those. I think I just assume they were like, they dangled off his jacket because he kind of looks like a pirate or something. He's wearing sort of a pirate or like a like a place coat and stuff. Three musketeers sort of outfit.

I've done a side by side of that and Xavier Michael Lee's character doing Dengelberries. David Price. David Price. I'm a David Price. Oh my goodness, I love David Price. David Price is amazing and he has a product that he's trying to sell called Dengelberries and they look just like that. Yeah.

And I sent that to him and I think he liked it I have to share that sketch It's very good stuff. I wonder if it was inspired. I thought it would make yeah I think that one features El Setra by Bertel. I believe so. If he was here he'd say share should we share? I think that's doable. Yeah, and then I'd say, oh, I didn't see that. Al, hi. Hello. There we go. Thank you so much.

I've got my Alistair catchphrase. Hello. Thank you for your name, man. If you got hello. OK. Hey, I've got so many characters. True. It's got nothing to look.

Stop your eye there. Alistair, coincidentally, is on this week's primates for next week's. He's on a real soon primates. Looking forward to that. Oh yeah. Very funny. So if you're Michael Eadies, coincidentally on last week's book cheat. Oh, there you go. What a guy. What a couple of guys. Hey, we should get him to get the David Price gang back together.

Oh my god. The video channel is happening. I genuinely went up to David Reesley and said, let's do it, let's make some more sketches. And the conversation continues. It fizzled, didn't it? He said, yeah, Matt, that'd be great. I've just got to pop out for a bit. And you're like, where are you going? Can I come?

And he's like, oh, just kind of, all of my phones are ringing. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, pretty confident that things are moving along in the right direction. How do we tell it? We will share some of the sketches, but if you're near YouTube right now, type in David Praise and you'll see a man presenting fucked up infomercials and man, are they good?

They're so great. Alright, Fleetwood Mac, we're nearly there. They kicked off a massive international tour to promote rumours that began on February 4th, 1977. As the tour went on, the band became increasingly concerned that fans in the media were more interested in the stories behind the music than the new music itself. Because there were all these rumours going around about them, sleeping with each other, so that's all the media out talking about. Lindsay suggested that they call the album

rumours because during the recording, they were all keeping diaries and probably writing about each other. Stevie Nicks kept taking more and more cocaine to keep up with the hectic schedule until she lost her voice. Nicks reportedly bought $1 million worth of cocaine and it burned a hole in her nose the size of a dime. Yuck! How big is a dime? The size of a Chinese coin. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha that she, this is from the daily mail, so I don't know how true this is, but uh, rumours spread that she had to have the drug blown up her dairy air by an assistant. By an assistant?

No assistant is getting paid enough. I don't know. To blow it, poke up your eyes. Pretty rich at this time. Yeah. And yeah, I mean, I feel like that's a one person job anyway. Do you need an assistant for that? How are you going to blow it up your ass?

You're coming along, Stroh. Try. Try. How are you going to link the house? How healthy is your lungs? Just get it. It's your lungs. What?

He's talking about a bendy stroke. Yeah. Don't look at me like I'm an idiot, David. You're a fool. I'm not a fool. You wasted all that money on your assistant, Matt and I blowing our own drugs up our own ass. Yeah. And sometimes I'll pick chubbers. Yeah, that really says. So you're helping each other. Yeah, but we're still two asses, two lots of drugs, two lots of lungs. I'm sure the assistant's getting some as well. Oh, okay.

Uh, now in S-70 she no longer takes cocaine. Oh, congratulations Steve. For a long time it really dominated her life. What an, and it's an expensive habit. Obviously a million bucks. And that's back in the 70s. In the 70s and the 80s, it's crazy. Rumas was finally released in February 1977.

It was an instant success. It stayed at the top of the billboard 200 for 31 non-consecutive weeks while also reaching number one in the UK, Australia, Canada and New Zealand. It won the Grammy Award for album of the year. Oh wow, that's big Grammy. Because they often fuck that up. Like in hindsight, the Grammy's soul won't give it to an album that stands a test of times, that's.

Yeah, they actually gave it to probably the best album of that year. Yeah, well done. All three major US trade publications at the time, which were Billboard, Cash Box and Record World, named their album of the year 1977. By March, a little over a year later, after it had been released, the album had sold over 10 million copies worldwide, including eight in the US alone. It has now sold over 40 million copies worldwide, and it's the fifth best-selling album of all time in the USA,

the 11th best-selling album in the UK, and about the eighth best-selling album ever worldwide. Whoa! Mick Fleetwood describes it as the most important album we ever made because it allowed us to continue recording for years to come. This lineup of the band stayed together for three more albums, Tusk, Mirage and Tango in the night. They still hate each other though?

No, they had a bit of shit to sort out, yeah, but they all sort of moved on and married other people. That's so great. I love it when people can figure it out. That's kind of nice, even though it's obviously awful. But it's a nice, that's nice that they were able to figure that stuff out. Yeah, I guess so. These next three albums were pretty, well very successful in their own right, but nothing could ever match rumors.

They're currently on a world tour right now with Christine McV back after retiring from live touring in 1998, so she took 12 years off. But Lindsay Buckingham was kicked out of the band before the tour and is currently suing them. Who was kicked out just for this tour? Yeah, and he's been replaced by a Neil Finn from Split Dance and Croutett House and Mike Campbell, formerly of Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers. So it took two people to replace him. And Fleetwood Mac to this day have sold over 100 million albums worldwide. 100 million million.

Yeah. Whoa. Actually, that should be records worldwide because that counts singles as well. But over 100, making them one of the best selling out acts of all time. Incredible. Yeah, but what an absolutely crazy story.

So what, they're in their 70s now? Yeah, they're in their 70s and they're still touring and still selling out massive arrangements. I must be exhausting. But so who remains in the band then? So everyone except for... Everyone except me. Really? Stevie Nicks.

McFleet would John McVe and Christine McVe still kept her name even though she married someone else. So and they've been divorced for so long. Over 40 years. She's married to someone else and she's still in a band with her ex-husband. She said that she now thinks of him like a brother. Oh, gross. Well, it was like an ex from so long ago, it would feel like that.

Okay, yeah, but just say best friend. Like don't go brother, you know. Okay. Like we know what you used to do. Right. Don't do that with your sibling. That makes sense. Yucky. So many rules with your gestures. Don't cry. Don't incest. What next? It's just a fun side note to bring two topics together. Christine McVeigh from 1979 to 1982 was engaged to Dennis Wilson from the Beach Boys.

He's the one that died, but also the one that died. Sorry, the one that died young and the only surfer and also the one that hung around with Charles Manson that you talked about on the Charles Manson episode. So she was engaged to him for three years. It's a long engagement. Yeah, lock it down. Sarah died. You crazy But, I mean, the fact that you're putting it off so long. Maybe there's a sign. Yeah. We should do a relationship advice column. Yeah.

What's that a blog? It's always got a blog! I think you said. I think you should. Send your questions. To Locked Bag. Oh, well, that's it. That is the end of round.

What a great story. I knew there were relationship troubles, and that was really, and it was a huge album, but that's all unusual. Yeah, all I knew was that Thunder only happens when it was raining. Which is untrue. Oh.

Yeah, Thunder can happen with that, right? Absolutely. Who wrote that one? Idiot, an idiot. Stabby Nick's, I'd like to tell you that there's a thing called dry thunder so stevey nix is still in the band What he calls these balls. Yes, I can't believe it all but one and he only just got booted Yeah, that's right. So they why do they boot him? It has not been artistic differences. It hasn't been actually stated why he says that he just got kicked out of the band and they're a bit like

I don't know weird That's a bit sad. They've got over so much. What could it have been? I know and then I looked at the set list and they're still playing his songs too so. That's, that'd be brutal. Maybe they just really want to kneel Finn in there. Why not? I love kneel Finn. He's great. He's great. He's like hey can I be in your band? They're like kneel Finn we love you. Sure. Lindsay you're out. Oh what? They're like, Neil Finn, we love you. Sure, Lindsay, you're out. Oh, what? Nails in.

We got nails. Fair enough. Everyone loves nails. Can you say how to kneel for me? Ah, kneels great. Dave, that was a great report. Well done. Thank you so much.

And I believe completes the tripditch of music episodes, spanning the genres, spanning the the eras, the decades, we had Brianna, Tism now it would be beautiful a thing of absolute beauty well done bringing you know the Rianna Theme Rianna and Rianna Yeah Yanna I You're a Yanna say if Reannond you've done it again you are incredible. He has done it again. Well another stellar report

Reanna Are you combining Rihanna Rihanna and Rosanna? Some great work. God. He is talented, isn't he? Thank you. I can do it all. I bless the reins down in Brianna. Well, that does bring us to the end of the report section of the podcast, but there's still yet time. There's always time for our favorite part of the show,

which is where we spend a little bit of time getting to know our Patreon. That's right. I have not a Simpson's reference and that just reminded me of our... And now for my favorite part of the show, this is cross-eat-the-clown, talk to the audience, oh, God. This is always death.

What I love about that the most is that we've done multiple Simpson's references. What have we done? Jiminy Jellikas. Oh, yeah. Matt, they're just conversational. So this week's Fact Quotal Question. Fact Quotal Question is a segment where we take one of our Patreon supporters,

who is on the Sydney Sharnberg level on Patreon, and they get to send in a fact, a quote, or a question, and also give themselves a title. This week in the Fact, quote or question game, I guess is this a game? Come on, man. Segment, thank you. It is Chloe Warren, her first time in...

Welcome Chloe. Welcome, it's a safe space, Chloe. Yeah. She's given herself the title of Vice-Sub-Deputy Chief Scientist of the show. Oh, I love that. Oh, we need the one of those. So I'm glad you're here.

Thank God. That's been a vacant position for quite a while. We had to advertise for months. Yep. And she is given, this is probably the rare of the three options. She's given us a, well, actually, I'd say the vast majority of questions. And she has given us a fact. Ooh, I love a fact because I don't have to think of an answer.

Yes. But you can be awestruck. Yeah, I love being awestruck. Can we say true or false, but always to say true? Yeah. Okay, true or false? Okay, hit me. This is from the Vice-Sub-Deputy Chief Scientist of the show.

Matt reading it for the first time. Here we go. Yeah, I should serve of new people to the show. Uh, I don't really, I don't screen these in any way. Many genes get their name from the phenotype, i.e. physical characteristics, which arise when the gene is mutated. When researchers discover a gene which calls the common fruit fly,

bracket, drossophila, melon, melon, no gasta. Close bracket. To grow an arrangement of spines long, it's axis. They dubbed a gene, sonic hedgehog. I love scientists. Well, there you go, true. I'm going to say, oh, I don't know. No, I'm going to go with Dave, true. go. True. I'm going to say, oh, I don't know. No, I'm going to go with

Dave. True. It is true. It's got a little bit of a false feel to me. Yeah, it sounds like bullshit. I can't just say that Chloe proved that she is the scientist of the show. Yeah, we needed her. Quite a few of those words. I do not understand. I did not say anything you said until Sonic the Hedgehog. So obviously pronounce them all spot on. Obviously. Yeah. Thanks so much, Chloe. That's great.

Sonic the Hedgehog. Is that a game you guys ever played? I was an Nintendo boy. I had a super Nintendo. I played a little Sonic at Friendshouse, is you know? Right. Yeah. Yeah, I was a social Sonic player.

Yeah. I dabbled in Sonic. I'm not addicted. Yeah. You could give up whenever I wanted to. Yeah. I never thought that Sonic could take over my life and get it did. That's very nice. Thanks so much, Chloe.

Thank you so much for your support. And also another thing we like to do with our petrions is shout out a few and give them a big thank you. And we also, along with the thank you, we also just organize a little bit of a game. I think we should use their surnames to make a band name. Okay, great. Oh, great. Well, is it possible because we shout out to two people each that we can buy in the two to make it? I think that's real nice. So we got to pick out which half and which full you take one full and one half

And I'm it's max I mean McVee's not even a Mac So you can transform it a little bit. Yeah, okay a little bit of transformation Can't just a little bit of your own and then we give them a divisive role in the band Are they the druggy are they the bowler. Are they the one who dangles fake balls? I think of it. Oh, well, I'd love to thank firstly, a couple of K-Members of this new band. Firstly, from Putnam Valley in New York, it's Adam Gia Battista. Oh, wow. Adam Gia Battista.

I need to work with him. That's a beautiful name from Putnam Valley as well, like that in New York. Putnam, I reckon they probably say. Putnam. Right. His English say Putnam in London, so this would be Putnam. I think so. Who knows?

I could be your own. Do you love culture? I love culture. I love getting a little bit of culture. I love culture. I feel like we just got a little bit of culture now. Is one of the characters in the Crucible Putnam? Maybe.

Goody Putnam maybe? Maybe. Oh, fucking, I'll hide all those goodies. Yeah, that's a good. Goody Proctor. Goody Proctor Sucked. Goody Proctor Sucked. Anyway.

So Adam Jim Batista, which I love that name as well. It's great surname. And who else has any Adam's band? And also from Australia, since it's a great surname. And who else has he known as Ben? And also from Australia, so this is a multi-continental group from Mossman in New South Wales, Dominic O'Kelly. Ooh. O'Kelly.

Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. I feel like maybe okay, Jim Batista, or something like O'Kelly, okay. Oh, okay. Or it could be Doc, Dominic O'Kelly, Doc Batista, look Dave. Doc Batista's cool.

That sounds good, Doc Batista. Oh they sound like a reggae group. Yeah. Or like a funk infused band. Or a reggae group. Or I can funk. Doc Batista. You guys are already gonna split this band up,

but it's this creative tension. What kind of music do they play Matt? Doctor, just a that's a funk. That's a funk. I can they play there a skat band The scat and all over the place You are spying less so that you won't choose between one of us Dominica only has a butt grow a spine like that something that a jug fly. Yeah See we learn so you two are I can make up the other maybe the three of us

Form fill out the five members. Oh, so we're now joining three new bands. Yes. See I got time. Yeah So I reckon Adam's Adam's on drums Doc is frontman. Yeah, I'm just I'm back in the pocket on the base Jess is dancing and singing. No singing dancing. Backpops. Dave on the pops. Every day. Golden totses on the gold. Such a beautiful instrument, isn't that? It's beautiful. It can be. May I thank some people slash former band? Please, please.

Thank you. I would like to thank, from also New South Wales, Ferry Meadow. Well, that's the name. In New South Wales. Oh, okay. It's a beautiful,

quite a vanilla name in comparison to be honest. I'd like to thank Christopher Taylor. Oh, that is a good name. Beautiful name. Christopher. If your name was Ferry meadow, that would be an a lot more impressed. That's true. Uh, Chris Taylor, thank you Chris. Do you think it's Chris Taylor from the Chaser? Probably.

Yeah, great. Well, thanks so much for your support. I think that would make sense. That's why he has not given us his address, but instead a locked box. Yes, I mean it's Christ. Imagine that. Chris, you were always my favorite. This is interesting because we had an American and an Australian. Now we've got the same.

We've got Chris, New South Wales and from Buffalo in New York. How Bill. Elijah, Jimisin. Jimisin, that sounds like I'm making up a name at the moment. Jimmison, I'm sure I've used as a great name. What I love about this is we've teamed up two people from New York with two people from New South Wales. Yeah.

Rather than put the two people from New York into a band together, it can't be done. It can't be done. Elijah, Jimmison, that's a fantastic name. That's it. We're a band of the world. So we've already formed a doc Batista. What's this new band called? I want to use Jimicin. Jimicin feels good. Right. Can you have something in sun? Oh, that sounds quite cool. Yeah, nice. Taylor and sun. Yeah, Taylor and sun. Like Mumford and Son. Taylor and Son. Yeah.

I like that. They seem they're alive. And Chris is playing one instrument. Chris is on the banjo. Yeah. Boring bing bing bing bing bing bing. Elijah though is on percussion. Not just drums, all sorts of different percussion.

Bungos. Bungos. Tim Penini. Tim Penini. Oh yeah. I love that Tim Penini. Sometimes he just puts one of those big marching drums on front of him and just bangs away at that.

He also has that Irish drum. Yep. Outside and ice cream. Containers. Yeah, he does it all. The thing with the beer bottle caps on it. Yeah. From the bush band.

I didn't tell you to stop. And what are we playing? I think we've got the same. For a viciously, I'm learning multiple. Oh, okay, we're the same instruments and all of our brain with different genres. Sure, of course. So the first band was scat. Funk. So the first band scat funk reggae, what's this band? I like just have the eyes on this one. What? Oh, gee, thank you so much. I'll say mine first, and then you can

just jump on shit all over it. All right, come on. No, this won't be a scout band. They are a prog. This go? Bush bands. Oh, that is good to work. I mean, we've got the beer bowl.

Exactly. And we've got the bag pipes, which is. One of those interests that can just slide into any genre without people really noticing it. Imagine trying to have one of those big and big bottle things. Flogger phones. Yes, that's what it's called. In any other type of bag, you look like an idiot.

You would. Some would say you look like an idiot even in a bush band. I was confusing the lager phone with a clay jug. What about... Boom. Never ever stop in the middle of phone with a clay jug, whatever. Never ever stop the middle of a hoedown. Okay, that's a great band name, Tyler and son. Okay, Jimis and Zairplane. I'd like to thank If I could.

Of course. Thank you so, so much. From Spearfish, fantastic name. Already. Amazing. I'm on board early. I want to use that in the band. South Dakota.

OK. We had a South Dakota before. South Dakota. Let me look up a quick factor. South Dakota. It's South Dakota. Is that, I think that might be Matt Rushmore. It is. I've always wanted to go.

I really want to go. Oh wow, looks like everything's called Wincave National Park. There's a photo of a bison. And who are we thanking? I would like to thank Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Peter Roosevelt and Abraham Lincoln all pitching in to 250 each a month. Thank you so much. Now I'd like to thank from spearfish South Dakota page

Mick Feeley. That is a sick bass player, American. Alright. Feeley on bass. Sorry. That's probably out of my spot. Oh, we could be double bass. Oh, a dishollowing bass. Julling bass is... Thank you so much, Mick Feeley. And we're going to pair you up. Chooling bass is, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, d I can't get in a respect. So let me try my best to say, thank you from Oslo in Norway, Oystein Espodal. Did they think they'd say it with like a straw? Oystein.

Oystein. Oh, confident. I think we've met this person. Oh, we have met some great Norwegians in London. I think this is one of them. And in Birmingham as well. We met some Oystein as I'm confident he said his name so many times and I tried so many times. Yeah, I'm guessing something like Weiston. No, it wasn't even was it Oystein. Oh

Stein it was always Stein. Yes Well, I think I can combine What about Mick Feeley Spedal oh yeah, that sounds like a cool name. What a fantastic page Mick Feeley. I cannot get over how good that is I've seen that name around admittedly Around the patreon world. Have you ever seen the name Espadal? I don't think I've ever heard of an Espadal But I love that name. Mick Feeley Spedal. I think that sounds like a good name. McFeeley Spedals, yeah. So Page McFeeley, I think,

is gonna be on bass as well. So we've got two bass players. What is Oystein playing? I think the reins, you know. Oh, okay. Just sort of controlling the weather. Wow. Yeah, sort of like a Sutton's sound show.

So it could be a really good show. It could be like, nothing happens. Yeah. Just two bass players playing. No, I mean, you're still in the band as well. Oh, so of course, backpops. But it's just such a dancing and singing. Backpops is such an unnoticeable instrument, I was so sad.

But you barely noticed that. Wait, how do you? Either way, they're controlling the weather. So they're going to bring down rain in the sad songs which just hates and she's furiously dancing during those songs. She hates it when the scar cross. You are not singing in the rain but you are dancing in the rain. She's doing a sad jig. I never heard of it before angry jig. Looks like a glum jig to me. How's this face not angry? Look at these eyebrows.

Are you okay? They are angry. Yeah, they're not too angry. I've never felt it before. Because that would be an emotion. You've never felt anything. No, I'm numb. Once again, everybody, therapy. It helps you.

Become numb. It's just a trillion light and state. If you don't feel anything, you never feel bad. To be honest, that's a good point. Yeah, good neutral. Yeah. But thanks to all our fantastic Patreon supporters and those three bands will be coming to us a festival near you soon. I think we're going to make our own festival headlined by Brown Horton.

Weathe Horton. So for legal reasons, because we can't get around round back we'll have to call it brown horn it. Why can't you get round round back? Why do I keep going to say Ronin? I think it's Ronin Katie. It was Ronin Katie in the end. That's why we aren't bad at game back. Here's some Meeeeeish and how you can see. What was that good? Yep. Why'd you start laughing?

I love that so much. Well yeah I think that's one of the worst songs of all time. But you've almost turned me around. Oh, come on, there's worse songs than that, isn't it? The smile on your face tells me no, that you need me. There's a truth in your eyes, saying you'll never leave me. The touch of your head, touch my hand my hand makes me I forgot the word says you'll catch me says you'll catch me

Whenever I go line line and then say it best say it best when you say nothing at all. Key change. There's more on your face! There's more on your face! I used to be able to play that on piano. Really? It used to be. Great. What? You love it now?

Yeah, geez. I just never thought I would. But, holy moly. Hey, let's get the fuck out of here. That just brings us to the end of the show. Thanks so much everyone for listening, supporting, subscribing, reviewing on iTunes and other platforms that is very, very nice, suggesting to friends. Sometimes we tweet out the episode or put on Instagram if people or a Facebook for that

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So, I see a pin number six, now it's six, six, six, six. What a waste of evil when you put it on that. I'd consider changing it, but it's just too hard. Yeah. It's too hard to change that six. It's too hard to call it my bank. I mean, theyes around. Too hard, I have to call them a bank. I mean, they won't even respect me and put Mr. and my credit card.

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