Do Go On - 190 - The Dumb and Dumber Bandits

Episode Date: June 12, 2019

In 2005, two Australian men entered a bank in Vail, Colorado - it would become one of the most inept bank heists of all time, this is their story.Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:&...nbsp;www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.com Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasSources/Further Reading:https://www.abc.net.au/austory/dumb-and-dumber/9172642https://www.smh.com.au/world/we-didnt-really-want-to-rob-a-bank-says-dumb-and-dumber-bandit-20100410-rzft.htmlhttps://www.news.com.au/national/dumb-and-dumber-bank-robber-anthony-prince-tells-of-his-survival-inside-us-prison/news-story/588e4f03723212b235c8d5c30aa59310https://www.vaildaily.com/news/do-you-remember-vails-dumb-and-dumber-bank-robbers/https://www.coloradoindependent.com/2010/11/15/bank-teller-in-dumb-and-dumber-robbery-violated-again-by-new-book/https://www.theage.com.au/world/australian-bank-robbers-jailed-in-us-20050924-ge0xh0.htmlhttps://www.sfchronicle.com/entertainment/article/James-Hetfield-moved-to-quiet-Colorado-to-10808564.php Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:02:00 with progressive between June 2022 and May 2023. Potential savings were very discounts not available in our safe and situations. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Warnicki and I'm sitting here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hello! Hello! Let me just tell you, let me just cut you off and start you again and cut you off one more time and we're done. We usually record these shows in Melbourne, Australia. We do. Just tell it behind the curtain.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Well, behind the curtain. And what if I open this curtain in the hotel room we're sitting in, what can you see out there? I can see hundreds of beautiful people enjoying some poolside fun at Osho Resort in Koso Thailand. Thailand, we're in Thailand. Stop perving on all those beautiful people. I won't. Look at those big old sexy people. Oh wow, and there's one real I go, but we will not say who. But if you listen, it's who. That's the mere section. Oh, I hang on, I was looking myself
Starting point is 00:03:21 in the face, and we will not say who I was looking at in the face in the mirror Okay, okay Oh boy, I'm just trying to say my own feelings a little bit. Oh, that's fair. That's fair Thank you for doing that. Yeah, we are in coast and we've been here for a couple of days and uh, oh yeah, we got here yesterday. We're um, yeah, okay Yeah, I can't that is a day, but yeah, I see what you're saying. We've been here on a Monday and a Tuesday. Yeah. So now I'm arguing Samantha.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It's late in the Tuesday, you know? I'll just cut off this terrible fight here. We've been together for less than 24 hours, and we're already killing each other. This time we have separate rooms too, so we can even escape each other, yet we don't, because we love each other so much. Absolutely, and we are on to as part of the Cosmere International Podcast Festival, with the crew from the
Starting point is 00:04:08 Little Dum Dum Club and a bunch of other Australian comedians that are flown to this resort. And the festival starts tonight when we're recording. And when you hear it, that was last night. And if you listen on the day that the music is at. Let me just stop this terrible conversation. And let's get on with the show. This is, it's real nice to be doing this podcast in the sunshine.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Well, I mean in the shade near the sunshine. Yeah, we're in an air conditioned room. There's about 10 metres and I can see sun hitting the grass. But as soon as we finish, we have to go and do some business stuff. You know, it's not all play here. We've got some work to do in tonight. It is, of course, the opening night of the the festival. We're having a big piss up. So what we need to do is get through this report, so we can go and do business drinks.
Starting point is 00:04:53 That's right. Business drinks. That's right. And this show, if you haven't listened to it before, is a show where three good friends, obvious friends, get together. And they take it in turns to research a topic and bring that research back to the class and report it to the other two. The other two don't know what the topic is until we start and we get on to that topic with a question. And this week I'm doing the report. But can I ask a question? Sure. You said obvious friends. Yeah, that was what a one set age is. Very early on. Are we your best friends? In this room. Yes. Best friends in this room.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Yes, yes. Oh my god! Water bottle, your number four. That means tissue box number three. Oh, stop. Stop pointing at how extravagant our hotel room is. Yeah, we got tissue box. Anyway, okay, you ask the question,
Starting point is 00:05:41 get us onto the topic. Here is my question, which Australian bank robbers share their nickname with a movie title? Oh Australian bank robbers. Um, I'm a Gedden. Oh, Titanic. Oh, um, forgetting Sarah Marshall. Get him to the Greek. Robbers. Okay, Robert. Robert. Robert.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Okay. The walkway too. Robert. Robert's a mechanism. Oh, that's pretty good. But no, none of these jumping toys. Who? Is the film actually about the rubbers or is it just a coincidence that the famous film?
Starting point is 00:06:15 No, I think the media took the name of a film and dubbed them with it. What, can you give us a clue about the film? It's about two stupid people. Dumb and Dumber? Yes! Ha ha ha! Oh wow! So it's the Dumb and Dumber robbers or the Dumb and Dumber band?
Starting point is 00:06:34 Ooh, I love a dumb robbery story. Yeah, well, they are fantastic. And apparently plentiful. Yeah. Oh cool. And this topic was suggested by, as far far as I know just one man named Gavin Fry Oh good on your Gavin Fry on your fry. He's always great when only one person has suggested it. Yeah And then there's so many other people that they come in and go how was there only one, you know
Starting point is 00:06:58 You like well because you didn't follow the exhibition for me be one that's a That's a quote from another movie, dominant number two. Back in the habit. Kings of Mikanos. Secret of the use. Ah. Ah, so, let us begin the report. Is that another line? Yeah, that's from another movie.
Starting point is 00:07:19 Oh. You're dressed like lettuce in that you are wearing green. Yeah, and everyone knows lettuce wears green. Look at that lettuce boy. Start the report lettuce boy. On March 21st, 2005, two men wearing ski masks and goggles, brandishing BB guns, entered the West style bank on Hanson Road, Hanson Ranch Road in Vale, which is a wealthy ski resort town in Colorado and the USA. Oh! A sense of United States of America.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Ah! I don't know why it should be USOA. So yeah, a little low, though. Yeah, a little low, though. Why, though? The men yelled at the two bank tellers, a bank teller's named Jessica Gunther and Kim Veskis.
Starting point is 00:08:08 Did they yell Jessica Gunther? Put it in the bag. Veskis, I forgot your first name. Also, I helped Jessica put it in the bag. Some of that apparently swore a bit as well. Oh, there's no need for that. And they said give us all your money. Give us all your fucking money.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Yeah, well, really. I guess that's probably what they probably potty mouth Yuck putting a bad name out there internationally for Australians. So they're Australian guys Yeah, but I haven't told you that there. Okay. Oh, okay. Well, I did it at the start. Yeah in the question One of the tellers was thrown to the floor. Oh, dear And hurt probably Tellers was thrown to the floor and hurt. Probably. And the other was dragged to the vault to get the money. She was told to open it with a gun held against her head. So they were baby guns, but as far as I knew they were real guns.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So they looked quite real. Once in, she filled pillowcases with cash. The pillowcases had their names written on the inside. Are they B-Y-O pillowcases or are they just in the vault? Well, I'm assuming they must have, why are they pillowcases at a bank? Just in case. Maybe they have an Aslumber party. Yeah. Do you think Jessica and Vescaz were about to have a party?
Starting point is 00:09:17 Yeah, were they wearing pajamas? Yes, it was. It wasn't said so. Do you reckon there's enough room that we could have a Aslumber party while we're here? Yeah, look at the size of that bed. I'll kill up at the bottom like a little dog. Yes, it was. It was. Do you reckon there's enough room that we could have a summer party while we're here? Yeah, look at the size of that bed. I'll kill up at the bottom like a little dog. Sure. I reckon we can make that work, but we do each have a bed.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Ah. Yeah, well, we're here for a few nights, one night in my room, then Matt's, then yeses, the final night, one night off, and then one more night. We'll roll the dice. We'll always get a boob. and then one more night, we'll roll the dice. I'm going to be. Ooh, it's going to be. Ooh. And Ahmed Carr got bogged in the snow, so I was unable to make it to this small branch that day, meaning there was more cash on the premises
Starting point is 00:09:55 than there should have been. And the men got away with approximately $130,000 in US cash. Oh, that's a lot of cash. I mean, it sounds like it a lot, but it's not that much, really, is it? In terms cash. I mean, it sounds like it a lot, but it's not that much really. Is it? In terms of like, I'd take it. Yeah, but would you risk going to jail forever for 130 grand and throwing a woman to the floor? I'd throw a woman to the floor in a fun wrestling match for her consent.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Well, you probably get paid better for that than this. Yeah, good point. It's nothing to like, it's nothing to sneeze at. But yeah, so I guess it's a lot because it was such a tiny bank, no security guards, just the two tellers and the people on premises. Right, that's why it's targeted, I guess. And is it a stroke of a luck for the robbers that the armoured car didn't make it? Yeah, so at least it seemed like a stroke of war. Oh, oh, unless they made it snow. The two men were arrested the following day at Denver Airport trying to flight a Mexico.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Denver Airport you say? Yeah, that's where I blew the fuse for all my belief. That's true. Getting interesting. Visit. We did an episode ages ago for those who don't know about the We did an episode ages ago for those who don't know about the spooky Denver Airport. It was an hour, a live Sydney episode from last year. A lot of conspiracy theories. That's right. Wild conspiracy theories. Going with some great fun time. A lot of fun time.
Starting point is 00:11:16 It was episode 150. Beautiful, beautiful crowd. The two men were Australians, Anthony Prince and Luke Carroll. 19-year year olds from near Boren Bay on the coast of New South Wales. How'd they get over there? How'd they get over there? Oh, planes.
Starting point is 00:11:32 We're on a plane, yeah. I forgot planes. The Memorand Vale on a working holiday, spending their time working at a sports store and snowboarding. So that's the brief summary of events. I'll now go on a more detail to explain who these men, how these men went from being snowboarders to bank robbers, and why they came to be known as the Dumb and Dumber Bandits.
Starting point is 00:11:56 I love, I will now. Yeah, cue amazing music. Duh that at the bit of the album. And it comes up and says, dumb and dumb and rubbers. They started planning their trip when they were 18 and were excited for it to all come together. Prince later told the ABC's Australian story, you familiar with the show? I love Australian story.
Starting point is 00:12:23 It's like for people that are not Australians, what would you call it? It's just like a... It's a profile. A long form, 60 minutes? Yeah, only... No, it's not 60 minutes. 60 minutes is more of a current affair, programs, news. Australian story is literally stories of Australians.
Starting point is 00:12:42 It's a profile. Yes, exactly. I'm just trying to think about a comparable show. Like, this is your life. Kind of, yeah, it just tells, it tells. Not always. It's interesting to me. Yeah, so it'll be a piece of someone's life or an event like in the case.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Yeah. This isn't a robbers. This is your life. Mike Monroe comes out with the film, which is like, oh my god, Michael. Whose voice is this? Oh, that's the police officer who arrested me? Oh my god, I haven't seen Terrence in four years. Oh, Terri. Oh, you're prick, you sent me to jail.
Starting point is 00:13:14 No, Terri, and they have a brawl. Yeah, like that much like that. I'm explaining what the show is. Yeah, I think people get the idea. So, this is what Prince said when he was on ABC, a strong story. Fail was amazing. As soon as we drove into the area, I fell in love with it. It was a great job working nine or five in a sports store.
Starting point is 00:13:34 We were given a lot of time off to hit the mountain, go snowboarding, given season passes for us cheapest chips. So we really looked after. Okay, sounds like everything's going pretty well. Yeah, I mean, some great. Some great. One more because you want.
Starting point is 00:13:48 Friends said they started to feel bullet proof over there. They started pushing the boundary of the law. The boundaries of the law. That's a phrase. They started going to nightclubs on fake ID's because obviously you're going to be 21 over there. Oh yeah. I see that's why I think more American kids should come to Australia.
Starting point is 00:14:07 But if you're an 18, 19-year-old, just wait a couple of years before you go to the US, not the drinking is everything, you know, but it would be nice. Nice to have the option. Yeah! You want to have a Veno with your dinner. So, I've got a great crap brewery saying over there, you know. But American kids listening, kind over there, you know? But American kids listening,
Starting point is 00:14:26 kind of Australia, you can drink here, it's fun. Safely. Yeah, and responsibly. Yeah. And you don't need it to have fun. God no, I don't. No. But let's wrap this up so we can go drink.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Or come to Thailand where they don't give a shit, how old you are. Yeah, they don't really care. So yeah, so the Fakod A-Sing that's on the lower end, obviously. Yeah, that's the lower end. But it's just the boundary. Yeah, that I don't really care. So yeah, so the fake ID thing that's on the lower end, obviously. Yeah, that's the lower end. But it's just the boundary. Yeah, they're just feeling a bit confident. Yeah, then they started seeing some of their shops,
Starting point is 00:14:53 like Walmart, you could buy bow and arrows and guns and all sorts of things. And they're like, this is wild over here. It feels like anything goes. They bought some paintball guns and apparently took them hard. Anything goes, we could get a shotgun. Let's get some paintball guns and apparently took them hard. Anything goes, we could get a shotgun. Let's get some paintball guns. They took them home.
Starting point is 00:15:08 I mean, they just dip in their toe, I guess. And they apparently started shooting the paintball guns, read somewhere through their windows to passing cars and other houses. The cops came, the cops are called and they were charged for that. Oh, okay. Don't know the fences, but it was in real, you know, painting unwanted painting of cars in little balls. Like a jet.
Starting point is 00:15:33 You're going to paint a car. You're about to finish what you started. Yeah. Your punishment is to shoot this car until it's all white. Yeah. Like a dad teaching his car not to smoke. Teaching his car not to smoke. I'm going gonna stand here.
Starting point is 00:15:48 I'm gonna build this into a high packet of cigarettes. It's been shoved up the exhaust. And then we'll see. Maybe still think smoking's cool. 97 Corolla. If you want to break down on the highway again. We'll see. Smoking on my watch.
Starting point is 00:16:04 But I don raised you better. That old cliche. In another incident, they found a credit card and rather than handing it in, they tried to buy an iPod with it. The dates this whole story of a little bit. One iPod of five's. And they were found out for that as well. Prince, this is Prince again, Australian story, said, it was just out of grade, you know? I think that we thought no law applied to us and we had all this confidence
Starting point is 00:16:33 and you know, we felt like we could get away with anything. Even though, why us now, they haven't gotten away with it. Yeah. The credit card didn't work and they've been arrested for shooting cars with paintballs, and they're like, we're bulletproof. We, you guys can't do shit to us. Shoot you can't own me, I bet it wouldn't even hurt me.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I'm basically invisible to you. I'm over here. I'm over here. How's it putting cuffs on him? How'd you do that? And I'm over here. I'm over here, man. If I'd been able to buy that iPod,
Starting point is 00:17:02 I'd be listening to some pretty cool rap music right now, but I wasn't. Somehow I was found out. I had to mistreat me. So these actors stepping stones to the larger crime. Prince went on to say that it just seemed to escalate till the point where we were like, how crazy would it be to take these BB guns into that bank and rob it? That would be crazy, bro. You know? It's a joke. Like, how crazy would it be to take these BB guns into that bank and rob it? That would be crazy, bro.
Starting point is 00:17:27 You know? It's a joke. This is all the quote. It was a small bank, two female employees, no security whatsoever. You'd be stupid not to try it. I think that's the life that it took. It began with a joke, and it was was and then it just slowly subconsciously moved into something which was real
Starting point is 00:17:47 and we talked to ourselves into it. I remember standing out the front of the bank making that decision. Let's do it, we're here now, let's get it done. So I walked in first and Luke was behind me. Let's like we're here, let's just get it done. Get it over and done with. We're gonna, we're gonna rob this bank. So let's just do it.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Let's just get it over and talk. Talk about like it's Christmas shopping. Yeah, no, like all right. I've got presents for grandma. I go on for my mom and my sister and law. Let's just get this over and done with get my brother done that. Rob this bank.
Starting point is 00:18:17 By robbing this bank. I'm giving him cash. I'm giving $130k. Rapping it up, putting it under the tree. That's it. Michael, that's for you. Merry Christmas. I love you.
Starting point is 00:18:24 You deserve it. What's this blood? Stop asking questions. Don. That's it. Michael. That's for you. America's mess. I love you. You do that. What's this blood? Stop asking questions. Don't worry about it. Who did I hurt for this? That was just a woman. Yeah, just vascues. They knew the bank well as it was their local bank. They were regulars there. They're regulars. Just the usual me. Two staff members there. so they probably know them. Yeah, the tellers knew them very well. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:18:48 They cut distinctive figures too. One was tall and lanky, the other short and stocky. By the sounds of it, they were the only two Australian customers of the bank. Oh my god. So while there wasn't much, they could do to hide their obvious frames. You'd assumed that they would have barged in and started yelling in non-Australian accents. Get down! Get down! I would assume that Matt yes. Well, you'd assume wrong.
Starting point is 00:19:11 They barged in and started yelling in broad Australian accents. Gnann, give us some money. Oh, Gnann, it's me, Luke! Con, I can't give us all the money. Come on. Oh, I just a car, how are you? You good? What?
Starting point is 00:19:27 I want to. Oh, gone. I'll tell mom. Is that broad? It's pretty broad. I don't know. I mean, we have very sophisticated Australia. I think I might have the broadest one.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Of the three of us. Did I do my voice change when I was doing that? I was just ain't talking louder. Loud, yeah. Too loud I did. You know, I live for five years in the country. First five. First five. We have a total control of louder. Loud, yeah. Too loud I did. You know I lived for five years in the country. First five. First five, I've been talking for all of us.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Oh right, calling me a slow bow, eh? Yeah, you're a slow bow. So you've been talking for the first four and a half. I've talked, I've talked right over, talked my way out of there. Mom, let me out. That's it, now I'm down in here. Get us out of here, I'm done.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I'm cooked. Come, mom. Come. Get the doctor, I'm ready. Come. I'm bald ready. I was born ready, I'm down in here, get us out of here, I'm done. I'm cooked. Come, mom. Come. Get the doctor, I'm ready. Come. I'm bored, ready. I was born ready, I'm not yet, but I will be born ready. I'm ready to be born, ready.
Starting point is 00:20:12 Mom, mom. So they barged in wearing their goggles, ski gear, they were snowboarders, so they had all their outfits ready to go. But I imagine that their outfits, the people know that they wear. Not necessarily, I think they might have even got special ones for it, potentially. Yeah, treat yourself. And the tellers said they didn't even think much of it.
Starting point is 00:20:37 They're in a ski town, people come in wearing ski gear all the time. They don't normally brand-ish guns. So that was when they said, oh, it's a little whilling to make an exception. Yeah, this one's different. It's also been reported that they were wearing their name tags from their day job. Fuck me. You are not.
Starting point is 00:20:55 No. You are kidding me. You dumb shit. Says sports power and then his name. Yeah. For God's sake. Amazing. So that was reported on in the media,
Starting point is 00:21:03 but I'm sure it also came up in the court. They their lawyers mentioned it in the case so their own lawyers Yeah, own lawyers think there it is yeah, so they would like to believe not guilty Because that just feels more on brand for them that don't quite get it They're bulletproof. What are you gonna do? Get him, send him to jail forever. You can't, you haven't seen. You can't charge or you can't see. So, giving clear giveaways to their identities wasn't the only blunder they made. According to Jessica Gunther, the teller, when she was filling the pillow with cash, the pillowcases with cash,
Starting point is 00:21:44 she got down to the small notes and assuming they wouldn't want to take the dollar bills she asked, you want to carry all these $1 bills? And one of the guys, I think it was Carol replied, shut up, put everything in there, everything, hurry up. Guntherweight had told Australian story, I was just thinking, you're so stupid. You want to carry around like five grand and dollar bills She was offering them help. You don't want this to you. This is a waste of space But I was like he thought she was tricking them or something shut up
Starting point is 00:22:17 So what's these mind games are logic It meant that their getaway was difficult as they were hauling pillowcases so heavy with cash that they had to drag them all on the ground. They were so full they couldn't even close the tops. Flaw out. They went into an alleyway to try and get as much of it as they could into backpacks, but it wouldn't all fit. So they had to abandon about two grand worth of dollar bills into the snow. And that's not plastic money like Australia money.
Starting point is 00:22:44 That shit's just going to disintegrate. Yeah. bills into the snow. And that's not plastic money like Australia money like that shit's just going to disintegrate. Yeah. And when you say they get away, is they get away just put it into a backpack and then walking home? No, apparently they get away plan from there, which I do not understand, was to catch a ski lift. One ticket goods, no, they... I'll be paying in cash. They use their ski passes. Well, they tapped on. Yeah, basically, which helped, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:12 help the prosecutors go, well, we know they were here at this time, moments after the... No! So, yeah, their plan was to... This is what they did, they caught a ski lift to the top of of the mountain snowboarded down with the backpacks full of cash I don't understand why go up to come back down And then they went I mean they were going to go snowboarding anyway. I mean we do this every day as well I was wondering either was it to was it like on an angle?
Starting point is 00:23:40 They came up one side and went down the other or was it because they were like we're fleeing now. Let's do it one last time Or I'm not sure but anyway the plan was to go Then to Denver Airport to get to Mexico. So it's no board to Denver Airport. Yeah, but I don't understand the snowboarding thing But anyway, and yeah, the tapping on meant there was a record of exactly where they were and when. Did they maybe feel like that would be like an alibi? I think I'm giving them too much credit. Could it maybe? Maybe they're like, how could I have been robbing a bank when I'm like half an hour away?
Starting point is 00:24:13 Half an hour later, I was half an hour away on a ski lift. Yeah, so... With a bag of cat... Oh no, I've said too much. Ryan Milburn was one of the cops who was first to arrive at the scene of the crime. Okay, the bank. Officer Milburn's quite nice. So, to put it in the lingo there. He said the bank tellers were able to give an amazing physical description of the culprits,
Starting point is 00:24:38 saying one was so tall with an Australian accent and one was much shorter in Stokja, also with an Australian accent. He went on to in Stokyo also within Australian accent. He went on to say that through our contact with the previous BB gun incident, which I think is the paintball incident, and then my previous contact with the credit card fraud, it pretty much screamed out to all of us that these were our main suspects. I would say we had them identified within eight minutes of the robbery. And that kind of thing is still walking to a ski lift. Yeah, and the cops are like, oh, we know who it is.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Eight minutes. Oh, my God. Brilliant. When Prince and Carol got to Denver, they tried to get a flight to Mexico that afternoon, but that to wait till the next day. But that gave them the rest of the day to figure out what to do with all this cash. They hadn't even booked a flight. They hadn't even really looked up the flights.
Starting point is 00:25:30 No. Which, I mean, internet was around back then. Yeah, well, they were in Gwaland trilly. Yeah, he definitely could have looked it up. So it's going to be a port and go. They looked up the most space for Denver Airport, and I would have probably said you would, you know, top eight friends that had some info about the next flight I think I forget how I used to open one flight to Mexico. I mean there isn't a flight today it's already gone
Starting point is 00:25:52 maybe tomorrow. Can I use my lift pass or to get to Mexico? No. Yes, yes to Mexico. Yes there's no ski lift to Mexico. I'm out and it's high enough and then I'll come down to Mexico. Okay. I don't think you understand. So now they had all day, they had the rest of their day and in that time I figured out what to do with all that cash. How did I went to work? They went back to the sports. Now they hung out in Denver and they had a multi-pronged attack with what to do with this cash, the excess cash, because you can only take so much cash on a fly. Of course.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Some of the things they did, or tried to do, was mail the cash home to Australia. Just I guess just wrapped up in a gas attack or something. Did it make it look pretty? It looked as card-only. It weighs 25 kilos. So you got the tape or something? Yeah, make it look pretty. Like there's card only. Yeah. It weighs 25 kilos. Card only. Don't look at him, that guy.
Starting point is 00:26:52 It's a real thick card. It's a wad of card. They also bought Drulu, including gold diamond rings. And Prince also said that he tried buying a Rolex with $5 bills. And he described that experience as interesting But which made it sound like he they were like you can't do that. Yeah, they also paid their taxi driver 20 grand that That's one six of the money you've stolen It's a big chunk. Why is it to the that must be a hell of a trip
Starting point is 00:27:23 Maybe yeah, I wonder, I don't know how, if, I don't know if that was from, maybe it was from Vale to, to Denver, let me see how far that is. 19 minutes. You get a thousand dollars per minute. Plus what? Little something for yourself. Plus I'm going to round it up because I hate numbers like nine teams like just go one more. You can keep it a change. And our Aaron 40. Yeah, probably cost you about 20k. The bloody crooks. The crooks. Despite all of this, when they got to the airport the following morning, they still
Starting point is 00:28:04 had too much cash to get through customs. So they decided to chuck the excess in the bin. What? Go find another taxi driver. Before they did this though, they went into a bathroom and took photos posing with the cash. That's a momentum. So I'm saying, yes, I did it.
Starting point is 00:28:24 Prince remembers having, there's a quote, a weird feeling that this was going to come back to haunt him. And he was right. Just this part, just this part. Yeah, he did it anyway. Just the photo part. Yeah, as he's doing it. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:28:34 This feels like a bad idea. It was right, these photos would be used as evidence by prosecutors. But I like to think he was like, oh, this could be a bad idea. This is my bad side. There we go. The FBI. That's the money shot.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Oh, that's good stuff. That. That joke. I'm apprauding myself. That joke is the money shot. I'm very tired. Maybe jet lagged, I don't know. So I think these are some like, I was familiar with these photos because they made big news
Starting point is 00:29:07 in Australia at the time. And it was the Australian media that dubbed them the Dumb and Dumber Bandits. The FBI had sent out an alert to transport hubs in the area, including the Denver airport, would be the main one, with photos in a description of the pair. Prince described arriving at the airport saying, we come strolling inside by side. They waited for us to just file through that custom section, which is a bottleneck.
Starting point is 00:29:33 I gave my passport to this lady, and she kind of looked at me, and it was a bit of a strange look, and she's like, yes sir, if you could just come through here, this security check over here, it's just a random check. I was like, yes sweet, whatever. If you could just come through here, this security check over here. It's just a random check.
Starting point is 00:29:45 I was like, yes, wait, whatever. And by the time I looked up, there was probably about 30 police that just came out of nowhere with guns drawn screaming at us. Get on the floor, don't move, don't move, you're under arrest. And I thought to myself, yes, this is a pretty random security. This is totally random. Wow. Yeah, sweet whatever. It gets on the floor. Cool, it is cool. Cool, it's a procedure. I'm so happy. Happy to help. I have no drugs or anything on me.
Starting point is 00:30:13 You're protecting us from the baddies. And I thank you for that. Happy to take five minutes out of my day to make sure we're all safe. The Americans, they do security pretty full of. I don't know you yet to take your shoes off, but also now, 30 guns drawn at you, as they check in your pants, okay? I don't know if that happened to be honest, but you don't like to assume that,
Starting point is 00:30:34 you don't like to assume anything really. Pants were checked. It was take some time. Wait, was this, where was this? This is a Denver airport. This is still at Denver, they haven't even gotten. No, they bought their tickets the next day and they've chucked the money in the bin. Yeah, right, sorry. I thought they'd made it back to Australia or something.
Starting point is 00:30:52 They haven't even done that. No, they haven't even made two journeys. One or three really. One's up a hill. One's down a hill and then they had a $20,000 taxi ride. Now they're in Denver. That's it. Yeah, go on but that's it. Yeah, God it's not police have known who they are 480 seconds after they left the bank And this is now 24 hours later brilliant
Starting point is 00:31:14 I like it kind of like they obviously were just like where they're gonna rock up at the airport We know they're gonna be there. They had 30 people. It's, FBI agents and stuff. Because they have nothing about you would be like, let's think outside of the box of these two. I reckon they're going to come up with a pretty wily escape plan. Block all the exits. They're the, these cops are like, yeah, they're going to be at the airport. Oh, look at that. They've paid for flights on a credit card. So we know exactly when they're leaving. Excellent. Like the head FBI guy didn't even have to say, oh units, go, go, go. They were slowly walked up to them. I suppose I'll pull my gun out just for show.
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Starting point is 00:33:25 National Average 12 Month Savings of $744 by New Customer Surveyed, who saved with progressive between June 2022 and May 2023. Potential savings will vary. This account's not available in all safe and situations. of the rest and yeah that's a feeling like no other. For sure, just feeling your heart just drop, yeah it was pretty intense. They cuffed us up, took us out back and as we walked out I could see all these facts machines and computer, that dates it as well, facts machines, all these facts machines
Starting point is 00:33:58 and computers with our faces on it and put us both into these holding tanks separate. And they cuffed us to this little iron bed and that was that all over red Rover or itchy ditch. Rigidage all over red Rover. These are the arseistoos ever. Yeah. So yeah, they're they're now arrested and they were charged and sent to court. They entered guilty pleas and with the amount of evidence against them,
Starting point is 00:34:25 it would have been wild to do otherwise. Ha ha ha ha ha. What do you mean? No, I didn't do it. No, I mistaken identity. Yeah. What are these photos on your Instagram? This is a set up Photoshop.
Starting point is 00:34:37 I mean, Photoshop. Yeah. They were up for a potential maximum sentence of 25 years. Oh dear. And the prosecution asked for at least seven. The defense painted a picture of two hapless goofballs. Yeah, that's why I was saying they were in their name tags. You know, I was trying to make them idiots.
Starting point is 00:34:54 These idiots, they don't deserve to go to a wife of 25 years. These idiots weren't surviving prison. Yeah. But the defense painted a different picture saying, two athletic young men going into a bank with what look like real firearms and pushing people around is a horrific event. You mean the prosecution? Yeah, what do I say? You said the defense twice.
Starting point is 00:35:13 Okay, the prosecution. Yeah, that makes my little bit worse. It sounds like they represent themselves. You're on it. It's actually representing my soul. It's a horrific crime and then the other one gets up and says, we are too dumb Throw the book at us don't throw anything at us. We can't even catch
Starting point is 00:35:31 We're high-plus and the other ones like no, we're really athletic Everything's on purpose. There is some irony about me talking about these two dumb guys as I'm struggling to put a full sentence together about these two dumb guys as I'm struggling to put a full sentence together. The age newspaper in Australia reported on the adjudication at the time saying, tears flowed as Australia's bumbling, bank robbing duo Luke Carroll and Anthony Prince and their parents made emotional pleas for mercy in a US court. The dramatic tear field speeches appeared to have helped the US district court judge Philip Fieger as he jailed the two in the two mates nicknamed Dumb and Dumber by the press for far less than the maximum
Starting point is 00:36:09 25 year sentence. Carol was sentenced to five years in US prison while New Zealand board prince was handed a four and a half year jail term. What do I? I think my guess and I don't know I don't think the judge ever said this but I think either read it or I probably just read it to be honest. Something was like, well, I put it together with my, uh, now's. Thanks, Poro. But I think he was the one who threw the woman to the ground.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Carol. So he got more violent act. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Which I think also made the crime, uh, uh, more full on crime than it would have been otherwise if they did touch him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Yeah. I like also like how the age put in New Zealand board and prints. Yeah. He's not one of ours. There's an unnecessary little factoid there. Yeah. According to another report, they were also find with more than 21 grand to make up for the money not recovered from the robbery,
Starting point is 00:37:03 which I hope is the taxi driver just got away with that 20. That'd be so sweet. But I imagine he would have, he would have had, like how did they find that out? Yeah, for them to know. Yeah, I think he probably would have lost it. But 20 grand, that's like 10 grand each.
Starting point is 00:37:21 That's not that much. No. To have to pay you. Five years in, apparently everything I've read from this, especially was the American jail system is brutal. Yeah. And would that mean that obviously like five years would be up ages ago now? Would they not be allowed back in the US?
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah, that's right. Or for just a really long time. Yeah, I think ever. You kind of are going to Disneyland, you dickheads. Not in America. Not the OG. No. But you can go to the one in, where'd you go?
Starting point is 00:37:51 Dave, Paris? I haven't been to Paris. There's Tokyo. Tokyo, Hong Kong. Shanghai. What, a hell? Yeah. They're everywhere.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Really diluted the brand. Yeah. It's less fun now. Yeah, somehow that ruins the experience in LA and Florida. Yeah. As you can probably tell from the lack of quotes from him, Luke Carroll has laid low since the crime, while Prince has been very open and public about his experiences, even writing a book about it called Bank robbery for beginners. Oh my god. He's like he hasn't learned. Learned from the best. Yeah. But how you can get caught in 48 hours or less.
Starting point is 00:38:30 Yeah, it's a catchy title I guess. But it, you know, it upsets some people, including Bank to Jessica Guinta, who had forgiven Prince, Prince had written a handwritten letter to her around the time, saying our sorry was all that sort of stuff. I think she sort of forgave him. I think maybe, yeah, maybe was. Maybe both, yeah. And apparently she sort of accepted his apology at the time, but when this book came out, she told reporters that it made her feel incredibly violated and disrespected, saying, for him to publish such personal details about my horrifying experience in his words,
Starting point is 00:39:08 without any warning or my permission, and to share it with the world, is a huge slap in the face to someone who reached out to him and stood up for him. Going on to say that it's hard to see him profiting from the crime when she and the other teller are still feeling the effects of it. The other teller, Kim Vaskas, having ongoing pain from the injury. And yeah, I think she's
Starting point is 00:39:29 still isn't able to play the sport. She likes to play in these sort of things. I mean, this is in 2010. So this was five years after the incident, which is now nine years ago. So I don't have an update on that, but obviously quite long term effects from the injury. So I'd like you say profiting from crimes never a good thing. Yeah, which you're not allowed to do in America, I believe. It's the Sun of Sam, something or other, Sun of Sam rule. But obviously, because it's published in Australia, that's some sort of a loophole around it, mate.
Starting point is 00:39:58 I'm not sure. I'm not sure. Prince calls the book a story of criminal stupidity, and it's very serious consequences. He talks about how he had to join a white supremacist gang in prison to survive. He said it was all very divided racially in the prison system and you had to join a gang. He supposedly had to join a white supremacist gang. You can't just go about your business.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah, I read that. It's like holy shit. That's which gang would you join? Oh, probably the the happy friends. Yeah, that option. The one that make daisy chains on the daisy chain twins. Yeah, the daisy chain boys is only two Is Matt one of them all. Yes, Matt. In American prison. Don't worry, we can handle us. We hold the power. And he also talked in the book. He also talks about being cut with a blade in an
Starting point is 00:40:59 argument about changing TV channels. Got a deep gash. I mean, he just wouldn't argue with anyone in there, would you? But he talked about that as well, like you can't it, you can't, you have to stand up for yourself, otherwise it never ends. Even if you stand up for yourself and you get beaten, that's better in the long term he was saying. He was saying, if someone cuts in front of you and line line when you're lining up for lunch, if
Starting point is 00:41:25 you don't say anything then you're going to be a target. Yeah, because you're easy, you're soft. Is that right? Yeah, I am easy and soft. Yeah, so you got it. Yeah, anyway. Dave, you are difficult and rock hard. Oh, that's so, especially in prison.
Starting point is 00:41:44 This is a little bit like my, what I started at uni was about criminology. It was a bit about this stuff, mainly more about Australian system. But it was talked about how like prisons systems, they often just become places that are kind of criminal training grounds. They're not places that we get rehabilitated. They just make people go in and come out even harder. When they went in, it doesn't seem like it makes much sense. Maybe it's not a good idea for you Dave. Yeah, I couldn't come out any harder. It wouldn't be dangerous, medically.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Yeah, dangerous. For me and other people. The American system has a lot of privatized prisons. So they make money from having prisoners. So there's no, it's kind of a weird system that rewards companies for people being punished with jail terms. It's pretty fascinating sort of system but it doesn't seem to, it seems pretty broken but anyhow, that is a long lapster degree. So I'm only going on a fairy vague memories. Do you have a degree in hand? That was back great in hand. Yeah, you'd have to do a refresher course
Starting point is 00:42:52 or something if you wanted to practice as a criminologist. And everyone needs a good criminologist. Like I've got my chiropractor, my psychologist, dietician, but I am in the market for a new criminal. You don't have a brain surgeon either Jess, you know, there are a lot of things you don't have that are still worthwhile. Wow, Matt. Wow. Do you have a brain surgeon?
Starting point is 00:43:18 Of course! I've got a more retainer. I'm broke! My brain's fine. I don't know what I'm doing. That will surprise listness that My brain's fine. I owe it. Well, that will surprise listeners that my brain is fine. Like physically, mentally, whoo boy. It bad in there. It bad. You look at me when I confess my feelings to you. It bad in there. It bad.
Starting point is 00:43:42 She's tapping her head. It bads it here. For the record, she's tapping her head. Okay, it's rest. I wonder if you can hear it. Is that coming through? Oh, that's coming through. Yeah, I out and clear. Apparently, his co-author, who I'm not sure it even was, but the co-author of the book has contacted Gunther to say Prince was planning on using the proceeds to pay back his parents for all the money they had spent in the aftermath of the robbery. I guess they had to fly over on enough that to pay money for his defense and stuff like
Starting point is 00:44:13 that, but I don't know if that made her feel any better. It's like, yeah, I mean, he's making money out of this story. It's her that made it. Find another, get a job. Find another way to earn the money, I guess. If it was like, I'm donating all the money to a charity or something. You're okay. And it leaves, like, I think one of the things that seems to, like she mentioned that he
Starting point is 00:44:34 didn't tell her the first she heard about it was when he's promoting it. Yeah, no, let it know. Let it know and fight. Go, is this going to be an issue? Maybe, yeah, I don't know. It just seems, seems like a weird thing to look Especially if I was using their names Then it's like well, and their names are very readily available on the
Starting point is 00:44:52 Reported whole way through so yeah, good point either way, I think you know everyone would know And she would find out she was saying she she had to quit like I think they both moved on from the bank industry She worked there since she was 17 or something. She went and started and she, at that point, was struggling for work. So it's like on top of her struggling to find work, she's seen this guy who made her life a bit of a nightmare is making money off the story that she was involved in. That's not okay. Well, they're both back in Oz now.
Starting point is 00:45:23 You're just? Yes, they are now both back home in Australia. And according to an article on news.com.au in 2010, this is when the articles from Prince said that it's still good mates with Luke Carroll saying, I still catch up with him for a surf. I can confide in him. He's my partner in crime. Oh, you suck.
Starting point is 00:45:49 You suck. You don't get to laugh about it. You haven't learned anything you dumbass. I think it does sound like he has learned, but yeah, he's sort of, I don't know. No. The article also addressed the Dumb and Dumber Tag, quoting Prince is saying,
Starting point is 00:46:03 Tartus Shake, it's the first thing people talk about, dumb and dumb, but I've come to terms with it. I've matured and I'm extremely confident about the person I am. I'm happy to laugh about it. It's confidence I got you in this mess in the first place. Maybe dial down some of that confidence. You won't end up in jail. He said...
Starting point is 00:46:22 I can buy a paintball gun. I can rob a bank. I'm a what's a premises now How did this happen? Confidence baby What yeah, I miss you and the way told it was that he wasn't actually a what's a premise So he put his in there just like playing that having to join again. Yeah He went on to say I'm extremely remorseful, but there's a flip side, and that is,
Starting point is 00:46:47 and that it was a crazy funny thing, and it's okay to laugh. Obviously it's a stupid thing that I did, and I deserve it. It's not, I mean, it's not that funny. Yeah, the problem is, I mean, the main problem is there are two people who've been scarred by this who are fully innocent in it.
Starting point is 00:47:03 That's what I mean. And like, no, it's funny. It's funny. Outside of that, maybe, but... It's funny to us laughing at all of the things that you did and your overconfidence and stupidity, but the actual crime that you went to jail for is not funny. Yeah, it's a genuinely violent crime. And it's how terribly you didn't think things through.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And that's what's funny, but you don't get to be in on that joke because you're just an idiot. It's like Gunther said that when they first came in, she was like, she wasn't sure about the gun. She said, maybe their fakes, but then she said, when he was holding it to her head, saying put the money in the back. She was so scared that she could never remember the combination for the safe of these yellow and
Starting point is 00:47:51 outer. So she was, I mean, it's pretty traumatic stuff. Yeah, it's awful. So it's not funny. But I mean, then you've got, not that this makes it better, but there are people like, you know, Chopper Reed, which was another topic that I put up for the vote against this one. And he wrote books and made money and became a sort of a public personality. And he's supposedly killed quite a few people. But then the people who killed with A Underworld
Starting point is 00:48:17 forgot, I don't know. But I mean, they're sort of, it's like a spectrum of fucked upness, but yeah, anyway, um, obviously using fake IDs, that's on one end. Yeah. And then taking guns to a man. I never did that, by the way, I never used a fake ID. Me either. What I did was, I'd get in, uh, before they put the security on the toilet. Yes. Hide in the toilets.
Starting point is 00:48:44 And then wait for long enough. How long we talk? That's exactly what my high school boyfriend did because he was born in the fair the following year, right? So he would do exactly that. We'd go to the knot. Did you go to the knot? No, that was that was my local uni pub I went there. That's where we would go. We went to the edge. He was right across the road from our school. Yeah, okay We'd go to the knot and we'd get there at about like six and have dinner and the security was on from eight, which is when most people turned up. And then when they came around and checked our IDs, he'd just go to the toilet and we'd message him when he could come out.
Starting point is 00:49:16 That's several times. I see the security ended up figuring that out. And when they did that, so they'd do a lap asking people for our days who are already inside. And then they'd go into the towards again. Well, you've been here a long time. Anything OK? Can you have the slide your ID under the door? Remember, one time the security were coming around.
Starting point is 00:49:39 I didn't do this, heaps of times. One time, the security were coming around asking for our days. And so I went to a table of old people. Like, I thought of him as old people as 17, but they'll probably like, 28 or something. So I went up to them. Oh, practically did. I went up to them and I was like,
Starting point is 00:49:59 hey, what, yeah, you have a few drinks how's it going? Instead of thing. So then security came down around and check ideas. You know, he's not checking the old people. Yeah. But he really came up to me and goes, you're 18?
Starting point is 00:50:11 I said, yeah, yeah. I'm like, oh, cool. And he didn't ask for ID. And then the rest of the time, oh, what do you do? So I'm like, I'm in this now. I'm in this line. I'm like, yeah, I'm a 22-year-old. And I just started, I just said everything about my older sister. I'm like I'm in this now. I'm in this line. I'm like yeah, I'm a 22 year old and I just started
Starting point is 00:50:25 I just said everything about my older sister I'm studying marketing and don't ask me any questions and I'm a shell But if she's listening we definitely know you name. Yes, we know it's not a show That's right. Thank you. You nailed it So so he's saying it was stupid, it's funny and whatever. I'm a more stupid, it's hilarious. I accept the dumb and dumb of name, there's nothing I can do about that.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I was an idiot. Yeah. I accept the name, like there's a choice here. Yeah. All right, punishment fits the crew, I'm dumb and dumb. Oh! And then his friend named Rashid Habib was on a showing story as well.
Starting point is 00:51:08 And this is the last little bit I got for the report. Talking about the dumb and dumb and dumb name, he said, yeah, he doesn't really care about the dumb and dumb attack. It all ended up actually helping him in the end because it showed that they were just two stupid kids that had gone to American Robter Bank. And I guess their prison sentence reflected that. So he can't really
Starting point is 00:51:27 complain about the dumb and double tag. They were pretty dumb. That's so good. But I think and it does seem like that is that their lower sentence probably did come out of the the fact that they were seen as being you know real dumb. They're just like oh these idiots they didn't really know what they were doing. They were just all of a sudden robbing a bank. And that's kind of how they told the story, right? And I was saying they were like, oh, let's do it.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Yeah. I guess let's do it. Let's pull it off like a band-aid. Let's get it done. Yeah, yeah. Get it done. Get it over and done with. And yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I mean, yeah, so the amount of money they just chucked in bins. Or in the snow. That's insane. So it's the end of the Dumb and Dumb a report. I do have one fun fact. Yay! I'll just come.
Starting point is 00:52:12 Dumb one of these for a while. Um, it's not super fun, but it's about the town of Vale. I clicked on its Wikipedia page. I always like to see the notable residents. Oh, I love it. Lum-Ni. Vale, Colorado's notable residents include Metallica Frontman James Headfield. Oh I love it, alumni. Veil Colorados notable residents include Metallica frontman James Hetfield, this little ski town. He moved there not too long ago
Starting point is 00:52:32 from his long term home in the Bay Area so it could feel like a part of nature. As well as taking part in his favorite hobbies like hunting. And yelling, you. But he wanted to hunt with less judgment. He found in the Bay area it was very judgy and he used the word elites a few times, a leetus. He's like out on about shooting a whale. The tourists watching it. Yeah, he's got a cannon. Stop judging me. He fucking the telecoms. He said it. He found that showing up with a deer on the bumper doesn't fly with the elitists of Marin County So what he he used a lady also said and another quote he said was their kind of
Starting point is 00:53:15 organic eating didn't didn't jive with my kind of Organic eating and I don't know what is that mean? Was he kicked out of a restaurant? I'm not sure. He just sounds like he's the guy who calls up I'm radio to complain about the kids. Yeah, kids are just. So he's a 50 year old, absolute multi-millionaire
Starting point is 00:53:34 and he's calling other people the latest. Yeah, I know, it's always funny. The people who use the latest is, it was a little bit ironic. He also, they did one thing, and I'm not sure about this, apparently it kicked up a bit of a stink. There was a popular hiking trail that went through his property,
Starting point is 00:53:51 and he fenced off his part of the property, so they couldn't, that trail could go through there anymore. Part of him, he's like, yeah, that's a dick move. Does that really affect you? The other part is like, I mean, it is private property. I guess he's able to do that if he wants to. Yeah, I guess, I mean, if you're on like quite a bit of property and it's nowhere near your house and people are just kind of
Starting point is 00:54:09 skimming the corner of your property on a track that they've been walking for many, many, it is a little bit weird. But if it's like in your backyard and you like to be nude, then it's like through his, it takes in like his porch. He was just stepping over his hammock and the front porch. You have to swim through his pool to get to the other side. Then I agree. If fan stuff is pool.
Starting point is 00:54:32 It was so safety, the kids didn't want to fall in love. Oh, this dick. He fucking elite. But also maybe it was, maybe it was because neighbours were pissing him off giving him trouble for the things he was, his hobbies and stuff. stuff and he's like well fuck you then I'm cutting off your hiking trail. I don't know who knows. It's funny how people
Starting point is 00:54:51 Get old I get property and stuff and all of a sudden become real petty with stuff There's some point in your life where you get real petty about I guess when you've got property It's a lot better of an opportunity to be petty But imagine if you're on a hiking trail and you're like, Oh, it says proper property. We should make it through. You then James Hettfield rocks up in his youth shooting at you with a moose gun or something. Like a musket. Imagine it be a musket man.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Musket musket man. That's blasting on his right. I want to be a musket man. Is there any was that a fun fact, Bob? That was pretty fun. Oh, I was a fun digression. I want to be a musket man. Is there any was that a fun fact pop? That's pretty fun Oh, I was a fun Degression I enjoyed that yeah, I enjoyed that I enjoyed that whole report man That was a thank you so old story. How do you heard of that? Yes, Tom and Doma Eat I think that photo vague there rings a bell, but maybe not me poor. It's quite it's so recent
Starting point is 00:55:40 I don't remember it. Yeah, I thought when you I thought earlier day view it you were being a bit knowing and you were holding back on... No! No! No memory of that. This is the photo, which I will post somewhere. Oh, no, I don't remember that. That's it's photo in the bathroom. And that...
Starting point is 00:55:58 It's even like here in the back. It's him like... Oh, it's a bad photo too. He's doing fish. What do you call him? Ducklips. Yes, it was very cool back then though to be fair. It's gonna stack one hand and then the other hand is fanning out hundreds.
Starting point is 00:56:09 20s. Oh God. Well these are the ones who was putting in the bin. You wouldn't put hundreds in the bin? No, they probably would. Yeah, but I don't know. It's a tricky one. The worst thing about it is that woman is still injured.
Starting point is 00:56:25 There's some of that in here that I'm okay with him. But I don't like him. Yeah, I don't know. It's hard. He was 19. That's not classic thing. I mean, it's not that young. And that is the classic thing,
Starting point is 00:56:40 the you forgive boys being boys when really, not most people aren't whole it likes knocking people to the ground. I mean just for example you and I never used a fake ID. We didn't even go on the lowest end of their rebellion spectrum. And for example we hit in toilets. I didn't know I waited till I was 80. The other dumbest heist we've talked about recently, the Loomis Fargo heist. I've described that as a victimless crime almost, because the employee of an armoured car business stole the money. No one ever got hurt out of it.
Starting point is 00:57:13 And they were fucking dumb, absolutely. But these people, I've traumatized and hurt two ladies. Yeah. So it's not a victimless crime. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Toad. Toad. All right. There was a victim in that other crime, yeah, yeah. So, I tore it out. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:25 There was a victim in that other crime, because the owners of that cash, I suppose. Yes, but they weren't sure it as well. So I guess the insurance company is the victim, if they're the victim, I'm kind of okay. I don't care, yeah. I know you shouldn't be, but I can't be. Yeah. I don't think the insurance can be an excuse listening. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Poor Rod Amy. Lucky. You only pay me. I'm just listening. Yeah, poor old Amy. Lucky, you're with Amy. Well, we just paid them back those millions with a free plug. My parents still call it double AMI. Oh, I love that classic squire. Squire, everyone. Squire.
Starting point is 00:57:58 So that brings us to everyone's favorite segment of the show. It's the fact quote or question. I can't believe we're taking this long to get to the best bit. Yeah, everything else is preamble. And the fact quote or question section is where one of our Patreon supporters, and if you wanna be a Patreon supporter, you can get a Patreon.com slash do go on pod.
Starting point is 00:58:18 And you get a whole bunch of different rewards, including bonus episodes. There's a big back catalog there. You also get shout outs what you're gonna do soon, you also get weekly newsletter that Bob now writes. Yep. This time she's gonna be writing it poolside. And you'll be able to tell. Oh, there's a lot of different vibes.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I have a wet message. Also, I forgot about it. So thank you for the reminder, Matt. You should attach a photo. Yeah. So for people of my, my knees, like hot dogs or legs, my ride. Or work office for the day. So Nick, I suppose, post a letter.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Yeah. So at the hotel where we were last night, which has this beautiful view, and it says office for the day, and it's a photo of the beautiful view, and the top of his laptop, and he just see porn hub is open. That's one of, he loves that bit. He loves leaving porn hub. It's very, very close. With that, beautiful view is very funny. So one of the big rewards, Patreon's get, if you're on the Sydney-Shanberg Deluxe slash resting piece level, you get to give us a factor quote or a question. This week it's Kevin Eulace's pack rad. Oh he's back! But for more! Kevin! And to be for Kevin Kevin. One of the other things you get to do in the Patreon, in the fact quite a question. Second is give yourself a title
Starting point is 00:59:47 and Kevin's given himself the title of VICE, Jr. Lobbyboy in training of the Grand Dugo on Hotel. And his... I'd be the concierge of a hotel. Oh, well you are. Then you are. That's what you be. That's what you are. Thank you. Dave's just picking up that's what you are. Thank you Dave's just picking up some room service I think what'd you get there Dave? fish tacos Fish time can I be a junior Bellboy? Yes, and I will be the senior Bellboy the biggest Bellboy there is
Starting point is 01:00:21 Bell and thank you Kevin's fact quoted question is a fact is a fact and I'll read it. And as people know, I don't read these until I read them. And I'm reading it now. Operation read, here we go. One of my favorite facts about is wait, okay. One of my favorite facts about the band rush. I love that already.
Starting point is 01:00:41 That means he's got a lot of favorite facts, but one of his favorite facts about the band rush is that love that already, that means he's got a lot of favorite facts, but one of his favorite facts about the band Rush is that their number one charting song isn't on any of their albums. The song is called Take Off and is on the 1981 comedy album, the great white North album and featured Getty Lee, the lead singer of Rush.
Starting point is 01:00:59 It was advertised as the hit single on the album and ended up peaking at number 16 on the Billboard Top 100. Higher than any other rush song had charted in America. This makes their best-selling song, a song that has two Canadian stereotypes jabbering in the background. And he's linked to the song, which I guess I'll link in the show description, but it's basically it's a sketch where he's, I guess he sings on it or something. I mean, this is what I should we should read it at a time.
Starting point is 01:01:26 We don't read them at a time, we don't want she links ahead of time, but the point is that the highest rating songs on their album. The highest rating song is like not really one of their songs. Yeah, right, gotcha. Okay, you're real nice to me. Okay, okay. This is the hit single section of our album, Good Day.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Good Day. Getty Lee is here from Rush. Hi, Getty, I'm Bob McKenzie, this is my brother Doug. How's it going, Getty? Oh, it's going pretty good. Good day. Good day, good day. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Okay, well, that's same like a hit song to me. How good they are non-hits are. Yeah, if I know hip music and I do, that is one of them. That's a radio DJ. That is a hip music. Would you be spinning that track? Oh, I'd be spinning that track on radio.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Yeah. Where I work as a DJ. Oh, a disc. Jockey. I jockey the discs. Yes. Oh, is that what that means? Yeah, I ride them. You ride the discs. Jockey the discs, yes. Oh, is that what that means? Yeah, I ride them.
Starting point is 01:02:26 You ride the discs. I ride the discs, baby. I love it. Well, that is a good fact. I like that. And that band is in, I love you, man. Right. Is that that, yeah, that's them.
Starting point is 01:02:37 So that comic duo, they're characters called Bob and Doug McKenzie. So they're like Canadian, stereotype, slash brothers. And they, it was a sketch in 1980. Bob was played by Rick Moranis and Doug by Dave Thomas. Although originally created as filler to both satisfy and mock network Canadian content demands, the duo became a pop culture phenomenon
Starting point is 01:03:00 in both Canada and the United States. Oh. And they're. Oh. And that- So it was that high, but then people loved it. For you. I get it. Oh, you get it. You get it.
Starting point is 01:03:11 You get it. As a radio DJ. Oh, that's a radio disc jockey. I get it. So thanks so much for that fact, Kevin. Yeah, thanks, Kevin. Thank you, Kevin. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 01:03:21 I had an idea. So what we do at the end of the episode as well is that we like to thank some of our Patreons who contribute to the show and make this possible. And we like to give them a shout out. And if you want to be one of those people, you can go to patreon.com slash do go on pod. Is that right? Is it pod? Yeah, that's right. Fuck yeah, nailed it. You guys never let me get this far. And I did it. And you panic it. You I did it And panic it panic I'm spirally help me someone take over And what we usually do is I'm making me to the game of it and I've thought of one I thought because this one was dumb and dumb abandons. I think we should give them all group names based on films
Starting point is 01:03:59 Oh fantastic. Is that okay? They all bandits? They can be bandits or do you want to think of something else as well? Or just bandits. I love the word bandits. So let's go bandits. I love the wet bandits and the sticky bandits. The BMX bandits. Yeah, those are the best bandits obviously. But we're going to make some new bandits now. I'd love to kick it off if I could. Please. Because this is a very special moment for me. I'd love to kick it off if I could. Please. Because this is a very special moment for me. I'd love to thank from
Starting point is 01:04:27 Fairborn. Fairborn in Ohio. Fairborn. David Nelson. David. Oh, hi-oh. Do you want to leave it? I still can't believe we've got listeners in Ohio. Do you want it to be Ohio related then? Oh, hi-oh, yes, please. Okay Oh wait, it's movie related. All right. What about I mean you made the rules. I know but I then forgot the rules Is where's Wayne's world set Wayne's world is set in America? Yeah, I thought they are you know? My role in California why Wayne's world let me look that up set in America. Yeah, I thought they, are they in Ohio? Am I wrong? I'm missing California.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Why? Wayne's world. Let me look that up. Wayne. And there's people listening, screaming at the... I'm there from Aurora, Illinois. Aurora, Illinois. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. All three of us have said we love that movie. I was singing Chicago. Is that, is that near Aurora Illinois? I don't know I just banged my elbow honestly that it hurts so much that you know when you you like We don't really function Well, I was just good good famous people from Ohio. Okay, we've got Neil Armstrong
Starting point is 01:05:40 It's not banned. So what about man on the moon? Louis Armstrong. Yeah Bandits Armstrong is not banned. So what about man on the moon? Louis Armstrong. Yeah bandits Man on the moon bandits first man on the moon in brackets bandits in brackets bandits Yeah, yeah great bandit wait, what does he have a team? Michael Collins Yeah, Michael Collins is the getaway. He's always the second fiddle Collins. Go on, stay behind. He's always the second fiddle. That's great.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Thank you. David. Thank you so much, David. David. And the man on the moon bandets. I'd also love to thank from Houston, Texas, Rocket Country. There's a man on the moon's where he begin. Houston with Norman Paz.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Norman Paz. Norman Paz? Norman Paz? Will that be a soft Z? I don't think so. Norman Paz. Norman Paz. What's Norman Paz? Will that be a soft Zed? I don't think so. Norman Paz. All right, a movie. Man on the moon. Bandits.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Are they all Jim Carey films? Yeah, okay. Dumber Dumber. Yeah, on the moon. Okay, yeah, all right. Okay, great, great. All right, okay. Yes, man.
Starting point is 01:06:44 I feel I'm gonna real positive feeling about Norman Paz. The Yes, Man Bandits. Yes, man Bandits. Great. Great. OK. Yes, man. I feel I'm going to real positive feeling about Norman Paz. Yes, man, bandit. Yes, man, bandit. I love it. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 01:06:51 I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that.
Starting point is 01:06:59 I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. I love that. banded friends. Yes banded. I Hate myself so much. I'd love to thank some people. I'd like to thank from
Starting point is 01:07:15 Kottati California definitely said that wrong, but I like it and they should think about naming it that Nissa Hesse Mr. Hesse is a fantastic name, by the way. Somebody Kutati. Ha ha ha ha. Yes. I want about the Batman Forever bandit. Yes!
Starting point is 01:07:34 Yes! We didn't. We got three. Batman bandits. Three more. Which Batman was he in again? Batman Forever. He was also in the puzzle, who was he?
Starting point is 01:07:44 He was the riddler. I was gonna end again Batman forever. He was also the puzzle. He was the ridler Question marks on him. I was like yeah the puzzle That is that's the one that Nick Mason told us the story of Yeah, handling his buffoonery. Yeah, I do carry I cannot handle your buffoonery I will I will know wasn't I can't handle it Jim Carrey, I cannot handle your buffenary. I will not, no, I wasn't, I can't handle it. It was, it was something really. I cannot sanction your buffenary. Sanctuary.
Starting point is 01:08:09 In that game. From. So eloquent. What's his name? I forgot his fucking name. Oh, I don't know. I've found another one. I've found another one.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I've found another one. I'm technically fucking this up because of today. I've even found another one. That's doing it. Just here we got. We have got from Kingsford and New South Wales. Eric Lee. Eric Lee and the true man show, bandit.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Yes! Yes! I can't believe we're doing so well! We're doing this. Two more, we only need two more. Thank you so much, Eric Lee. Thank you, Eric Lee. The true man of my heart.
Starting point is 01:08:42 Ha ha ha, Dave. Bring us home. I'd like to thank now from Droid Witch in Worcestershire. That's a fantastic Why's it Droid Witch Worcestershire? I'd like to thank Ern Arosmith and the Ancomand to the legend continues uncredited cameo bandit Well done Well done, you had one ready to go. According to Wiki, he had an uncredited cameo in Ancaman 2 as Scott.
Starting point is 01:09:08 What do I uncredited? Scott Riles. There you go. So thank you so much to earn Arosmith, the Ancaman 2 uncredited cameo bit. We've got to do it. And Bob to bring us out. I'd Davie got one like. Alright.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Take us home with a shout out to from Salford and Greater Manchester. Oh, one of you were ever a member of the Salford Laptop Club, which we visited last year. I'd like to thank from Salford, Thomas Rees. Thomas Rees, what are Thomas's bandits? And the cable guy bandit. Close it up.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Close it up. Close and no. I would have accepted the Tunnel Sunshine of the Spotless Man. I thought about that. P-Man Pie, apparently there's a film called P-Kenn Pie. Or Sonich, Sonich, the Hedge Man. Sonich. Is the bad guy on the new one?
Starting point is 01:09:59 Sonich. Dr. Robotnik. Sonich. Thank you so much. Thomas Ernerik, Nese Im Norman and David. And one last time you can go to patreon.com-dougawon-pod. There's also a Facebook group, which we'll post a few little bits and pieces in there of our travels. Well, I've posted one photo, but still. And...
Starting point is 01:10:23 Because of Jess and she was having a lovely sit. I was having a good sit. You know, I love a sit. We love a sit. I'm sitting right now. And I'm loving it. So that really brings us very close to the end of the episode. Dave, is there anything else we need to say?
Starting point is 01:10:35 No, we just need to say, um, pray for us in Kosovo. It's a tough life here. Yes. Hope you thought so with us. If you're in Kosovo, we will see you soon. Yeah, first show tomorrow night. Live on the beach on the sands of Costa Mewi. And we'll put one of the, we're doing at least two,
Starting point is 01:10:51 we're doing two live shows. Yeah, two live shows here. So at least one of those will go out out, so you'll be able to hear, and the other one might be heard by Patreons. That's right, so we won't hear that. We said the link many times, but you can check that out.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And all the links to all our stuff, including the email, the Facebook, the Instagram, the tweets, the merchandise. We don't have to worry about that very much. We don't have to worry about that very much. You've got to do go on pod.com. That's our website. Yeah, check it out.
Starting point is 01:11:16 And we've got the YouTube series. We're nearly up to date again, aren't we, Matt? We've got a bunch of live shows going up. I'm working my way on that, but they're all just slowly being released every a couple of weeks at youtube.com slash do go on pod. Who would have thought? Would you believe? We did it.
Starting point is 01:11:32 We thought it did it. Well that does bring us to the end of the episode. We have to go to the opening night party now. Yeah, sorry guys. Engage in some business. We've got to go to a party. Sorry. Okay.
Starting point is 01:11:43 Business drinks. Well. Networking. Networking. Sorry. Okay. Yeah, no. Business drinks. Well, networking. Networking. Meeting with associates. That's right. Meeting people in the groove and shakken and bacon. Shmewzing. Shmewzing.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Yesterday Matt ate a schnickers. I ate a schnickers. Well, in anticipation. Well, it's the card. It's a funny. It was one in the little fridge and I ate it. He ate it. But then when he told us about it, he actually said schnickers. Schnickers. And honestly, it's one in the little fridge, and I... He ate it, but then when he told us about it,
Starting point is 01:12:05 he actually said, Snickers. Snickers. And honestly, it's one of the best moments of my life. It's definitely a story that, for some reason, keeps coming back up. Yeah. I ate a Snickers. You wouldn't think that I would have been,
Starting point is 01:12:16 I would have heard that back at me three or four times. I'm not gonna have that. I was gonna be opening line tonight at this party. Yeah, hello. Do you like Snickers? You should meet Matt Stewart. Yes. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 01:12:29 All right, let's get out of here. All right, thank you so much for listening. We'll be back next week with another episode, as we said before, but until then, thank you so much. And I will say goodbye. Bye. Bye. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit Planet Broadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates.
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