Two In The Think Tank - 246 - The 1968 Olympic Salute

Episode Date: July 8, 2020

On October the 16th, 1968, Olympic athletes Tommie Smith and John Carlos stood with their fists in the air during the medal ceremony for the 200m sprint, a gesture that would make front page news around the world. This is the story of what led to that iconic moment and its aftermath.Buy tickets to our live streamed shows on July 18 + 25, August 1st + 8:https://sospresents.com/catalogSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCheck out our web series: https://www.youtube.com/user/stupidoldchannel Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicVote for the albums to be covered on Listen Now:https://www.eSurveysPro.com/Survey.aspx?id=b43703e6-0295-4c89-9235-c92351a83a48Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/caught-in-time-black-power-salute-mexico-1968-kpw6zfw78lhhttps://www.britannica.com/event/Mexico-City-1968-Olympic-Gameshttps://www.smithsonianmag.com/articles/olympic-athletes-who-took-a-stand-593920/#y5HSFO8gwwgwGu8L.99https://web.archive.org/web/20200417174345/https://www.sports-reference.com/olympics/summer/1968/ATH/mens-200-metres.html

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Oh, but I won't. I'll wave at you. Oh, but I won't. I'll wave at, let's do the show. Just how does it work again? Well, look, we've been doing this for four and a bit years, Matt. Hopefully you remember by now that each week one of us goes away to our little study hole and research is a topic and then brings it back to the other two who politely listened but also interrupt a lot.

And this week Matt Stewart has done all of the studying slash research and as always he's going to kick it off with a question. And my question is this week if you don't mind let me up to it. Wasn't just finishing writing some extra info. What is the 1968 Olympics 200m sprint most famous for? 1968 Olympics 200m sprint. It is the Mexican City Olympics. Is this a certain political salute? It is a certain political salute. Oh!

I'll accept that answer because it, one of the main actors in the salute sort of dismisses that it's often called a black-pow salute and he maintains that it was more of a human right salute. Oh fantastic. But yeah, it is still you'll you'll find a lot of articles written about it called a black power salute But I feel like you got to take his word for it as he was the one who did it. So he's probably the one who knows more than most but Well, let me begin this report Fantastic It happened on October 16th 1968 the US Olympic athletes Tommy Smith and John Carlos stood with their fists in the air during the metal ceremony for the 200m sprint.

This gesture would become front page news around the world. It was the 1968 Summer Olympics in Mexico City, according to Britannica, the 1968 Olympic Games in Mexico City were the most politically charged Olympics since the 1936 Games in Berlin. OK, I was going to be like, oh, there was enough. So, yep, good to say since then. Yes. And there was a lot of stuff going on around this Olympics.

I'm going to list a bunch of things here that would all be very worthy of a full hour and a half report in themselves. Smith and Carlos, the two key players we're talking about, they wanted to use their metal winds to highlight the social issues, oiling the United States at the time. According to History.com, racial tensions were at a height and the civil rights movement had given way to the Black Power movement. African Americans like Smith and Carlos were frustrated by what they saw as the passive

nature of the civil rights movement. They sought out active forms of protest and advocated for racial pride, black nationalism and dramatic action rather than incremental change. 1968 was already a traumatic year for the United States. The country was deeply divided over the Vietnam War and the civil rights movement. Martin Luther King, Jr., was assassinated only months before the Olympics as was Senator Robert F. Kennedy. The King assassination led to the holy week uprising with rights and civil unrest in more than

100 US cities. So, I mean, it's just sort of like, breeze over a few of the biggest experiments of the 20th century. I should say we normally mention who suggested the topic. Absolutely. So this topic was suggested by Jordan Hayden, Ben, Hannah White, Bernard Thomas,

Sophie Waldron, and Miguel Acosta. That's always a fantastic collection of names. Yeah, I was gonna say, it's probably something that's been suggested a few times. So it's not surprising to hear a few names there, because it's a pretty amazing story. Yes. Did you too know much about it?

Bits and pieces, yeah. I feel like I knew very little. I know the photos for iconic. Yes, yep. But the backing story, the race itself, I just didn't really know. Well, that's true. I don't really think about the race that they just run. Yeah, that's right. So, one day first and third or first and second, first and third.

First and third, yeah, that's right. So, yeah, I mean, amazing athletes. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, we'll talk about really amazing athletes. Yeah, wow. History.com goes on. In lead up to the Olympic Smith and Carlos helped organize the Olympic project for human rights,

a group that reflected their black pride and social consciousness. The group saw the Olympic Games as an opportunity to agitate for better treatment of Black athletes and Black people around the world. Its demands included hiring more Black coaches and rescinding Olympic invitations to Rhodesia and South Africa, both of which participated, sorry, practiced apartheid. Though the project initially proposed a boycott of the Olympics altogether, Smith and Carlos decided to compete in the hopes that they could use their achievements as a platform for broader change. Yeah, so there was a long buildup where it looked like Black American athletes were going to boycott.

Wow. But they... Yeah, it was... It sounded like that's why it was going to go for quite a while leading up and then they changed their minds, I think, with the thoughts that they'll be on the main stage of the world and they'll maybe be able to make a bigger stand by attending rather than not. It's hard to know what.

I'm sure going into an Olympics, you're already putting an insane amount of pressure on yourself, you know, just to do well. But then if you're also going to sort of make that kind of statement, you'd be putting extra pressure on yourself to do well. Yes. Getting knocked out in the first round, you're like, no, fuck. Was the 200 meters real, was that 16 seconds or something? Well, anyway, just, it's, just started 20 seconds or whatever, or just over 20 seconds. So how long it takes?

Anyway, but you just got to stuff up that one time for years and not make it to the final, and then you're like, ah, I was going to use that for my platform. Exactly, yeah. Now it's gone. Yeah, amazing. Yeah, that's right, I didn't really thought about that

for the extra pressure on you. Yeah. I mean, it proves my worth on so many levels. Yeah. Whereas if you say, I'm the best in the world at this, and I'm not going to do it, I'm not going to show you my talents. And you don't have to.

That is in some ways. That's the sure thing statement. And that's what I've done every Olympics. I mean, I would. But I am the fastest man alive. I mean, I would, but... I am the fastest man alive. Traditionally, the Olympics are framishes, and I'd hate to... I hate to overshadow everybody just how they're having a go. Yeah, that's true, it's not too rough as well.

Sociologist Harry Edwards had the idea of African American athletes boycotting the games to protest racial inequalities in the United States. And according to the Smithsonian, quote, as students at San Jose State University, where Edwards was teaching, Smith and Carlos took part in that conversation. Carlos, born and raised in Harlem, was quote, an extreme extrovert with a challenging personality, says Edwards, now emeritus professor of sociology at the University of California and Berkeley, with a challenging personality, says Edwards. Now, Emeritus, Professor of Sociology at the University of California in Berkeley.

Smith, the son of sharecroppers who grew up in rural Texas in California, was a much softer private person, again, according to Edwards. Smith grew up on a farm, and I was watched this documentary which was made by an Australian man, a 10 years or so, back called Salute and Smith is featured in that.

And he tells his story, he would go to school for 8 hours and work in the fields for 12 hours a day. And he's like, people are saying, that's not possible. And he goes, look at me, I'm telling you, I did it. It is possible. It's brutal. That's not enough sleep. No, that's all I'm like. If you remember at the start where I said,

I love a slumber party, that's not enough sleep. This guy's not getting involved at the slumber party. He told the story of his, he was asking his daddy, we wanted to run and he's dead. That's like, they were poor, they needed asking his daddy, we wanted to run, you know, that's like, I was poor, I needed the money, I just had to work. And, but then he had, there was a teacher at his school that his dad kind of locked who was encouraging him to run. So his dad said, he'd give him a chance, he said, you can run tomorrow.

But if you come second, you're back in the field next week. Wow. And Smith was like, so I didn't lose too many races from then on. So he's good at putting the pressure on himself and winning high stakes right here. Did that from the very beginning? Yeah.

Every race is for your career. Ten days before the opening of the games, a group of unarmed students gathered to protest in Mexico City's three culture square, Botanica states that they were there protesting the Mexican government's use of funds for the Olympics rather than for social programs. Apparently quite a few thousand people were there, students unarmed and despite that the government sent in bulldozers to disperse them before the army open fire at the crowd This is just before an Olympic 10 days before the Olympics, which is all about coming together and peace and the world's eyes are on that city all

Exactly So and there it was it was swept under the carpet by the government and the media didn't really know or report on the full extent, even athletes there didn't know the full extent of it all. Right, because you know, they get there a couple of weeks beforehand, don't you? Yeah, I think to acclimatize all that sort of stuff. So apparently the government's official death count was four, but we've seen other estimates suggesting up to 3,000 students were massacred. What?

They rounded it down to four. Yeah. Fuck, I had never heard that. There's other estimates in between, but they're sort of like... Somewhere between four and 3,000. So when you, they say this is one of the most politically charged and... Fuck! Olympic games ever, this just happened just before.

And I think in part it was, the way I sort of read it was the government, like we don't want anything distracting from our, we're putting on a great game, we're showing the world how great we are, we don't want to see these protests. So Jesus. I would say not the way of going about it. No. It's a big call I know, but these brutal events are said to have deeply affected Carlos and Smith. When Carlos arrived, you know, Parvamut, so he didn't know the full extent, it was still like, this is not right, they're just trying to have this say, you know, Parvamut, so he didn't know the full extent was still like, this is not right. They're just trying to have this, say, you know, even though they were kind of protesting

ants, the Olympics, they're like, they're just suggesting that the government could be spending more money on its own people. And how do you respond to that? Killing your own people? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Holy shit. Well, I mean, less people means less money you have to spend on them, so. Fucking hell.

When Carlos arrived, he noticed that the route that they were driven into the athlete's village, the Olympic village, was lined with big, colorful billboards that were painted by a school children and stuff. And he walked up, close to get a look to see what happened, and he realized that they were just covering

the slums and all the cool poverty that was just behind it. Babies wrapped in newspaper, and then you mentioned and just like, like, abject poverty behind, just sort of papering it over to show the greatest of the pictures. They were actually papering it over to show the Great actually papering it over wow. Yeah, she is so it was I mean all that's grim and like I say that probably deserves its own report in itself

that Massacre and but That's just the backdrop of these games so at these these games, the 1968 games, 112 countries were represented by around 5,500 athletes from Britannica. The high elevation of Mexico City at 7,500 feet was both a benefit and a hindrance to track and field competitors. The sprinters and field athletes strived in the thin air. For instance, Americans Bob Beaman in the long jump and Lee Evans in the 400 meter run, Shattered World Records and Dick Fosbury won the high jump with his revolutionary Fosbury flop technique. Oh yeah! I didn't, I didn't realize that was so recent. I always

picture that to be like in the 20s or something. I asked in a, I was hosting trivia with some friends the other day. And one of my questions was in which sport would you perform a Fosley-Rue flum? That's so funny. I was also talking about this with my parents the other day and it turns out my auntie's father was one of the coaches at the 68 Olympics in athletics. And because of the altitude, when they were going into their hotel rooms,

everyone has to take the stairs. That was him, Neville. No, no, no. No, not the head coach coach. No, I wasn't a head coach. Oh, I could see in that documentary, Neville like it was him, but it was really your uncle. And it may well have been. You dog, Neville.

No, I mean, this is like a third-hand story about arms telling. But yeah, telling them to take the stairs so they could use to the altitude and they couldn't make it three or four flights. Four flights, yeah. So the... These are elite athletes, they can't take the stairs. Because Australia didn't... We don't have any altitude high enough to do a training camp,

so they just weren't used to it at all. Whereas some of the other countries like America have places they could go in their only country and train for a bit beforehand. Yeah, the Australians were pretty shattered by it by the sounds of it. How tall was this building? Yeah. God, can't breathe that bit. The 200 meter sprint is best remembered for the protest on the podium, but it was a remarkable event regardless. This is from sportsreference.com. Coming into the Etony Smith was considered

the best 200 meter runner, but Drone Carlos had won the Olympic trials in an unratified world record of 19.7 seconds. It was not accepted because the shoes had too many spikes. I went up to code at that point. Too many spikes. Yeah, they were a new kind of, I think they were brush souls or something. They were just at a different kind of thing that hadn't been okay.

Interesting. They also have rockets. Rockets, yes. Each spike was a rocket. Too many rockets, you're allowed for. Yeah. Well, yeah, five. That's why Astro Boy was Disc Golf like that. Robbed. Smith had won the AAU, which I think is the amateur athletic union in 67 and 68. Walt Carlos was a 1967 Pan American champion. So they were two athletes at the top of their games and they were sort of neck and neck in terms of who was the best. Smith

was the current ratified world record holder with a top of 20 seconds flat, which he achieved in Sacramento in 1966. I was saying to you that my football team the St. Cooter Saints won the VFL Premiership, they won an only VFL I have. Wow, is there any relation between the events? No, unfortunately not. I would have loved for Smith to have been recruited by the Saints, where I can, we would have definitely added a bit of zip off the half-fath line. Yeah, a bit of speed in there.

A bit of zip. A bit of zip. A bit of zip. A bit of zip. A bit of zip. Who can we get? Oh, there. Fossus man in the world. I'm going to need a bit of zip. Who can we get? Oh, I could try the fastest man in the world. Yeah, get him on the blow.

Yeah. That's such a dumb to get him on the blow. What do we call phone's blowers? I don't get that. That'd be a thing. I reckon, like, originally, you had to blow them to... that's how they were powered. Who are you blowing the phone the operator to blow the operator and then they dull all right Who do you want to call? Get them on the blowy is what it used to be

So at this point no one had officially broken the 22nd mark point no one had officially broken the 22nd mark. Oh right, go right. So that's, that's bloody quick isn't it? Some had done it, obviously, just with rocket shoes. With rocket shoes. Yeah. 19.7, that's crazy. Yeah, like, I can do it in 30 seconds.

Breaking 10 seconds for 100 meters is super fast. Doing it twice in a row. Also very fast. There were 50 competitors split up across the seven heats. John Carlos won his heat in 20.54 seconds. That was the first eight. Tommy Smith was in the second heat. He broke the Olympic record in his heat, winning in 20.37 seconds.

That newly set record was then broken in the sixth heat by Australian Peter Norman in 20.17 seconds. Which is his personal record. He'd never run that fast before. I think there's got sounds like... Reading between the lines a bit, it sounds like for longer distance runners, a high altitude made it harder, but for the sprinters some reason, maybe it helped them a bit. But he's also said that the track over there wasn't used to running on that back home, he'd

run on grass and stuff. And then over there, this stuff was called Tartan, and he's like every step it felt like I was getting an extra four inches. It felt like it was bouncing off it. It was springy. He was on a rocket track. He's like, what is this a trampoline? Tracles up that is crazy. It's like when you're at the airport and you're walking really fast on that on the

Travelator. Yeah, I feel like a god. Yeah, but you just you just walking normally, but you're just passing normal walkers Yeah, I can't see you later Suggers, this is what you say You realize it. Oh, I'm going past the gate. I can't get off I got a backer. I got a double back. You go into the first. Backer up. You try to climb off the side. With your bag. Help me. Help me. Help me. No more walkers.

I know it is made fun of you, but I need your help. Help me. That's funny. I love that this guy said, because you would have thought that what you're used to training and if you went to something different it would be bad for your routine. Yeah. But he's got this amazing. He said it's great. So I think his best before them was about 20.5.

So he's knocked a big chunk off. Big chunk. I mean, a big chunk it also, no time at all. You know, like in running, yeah, sure, but it's fractions of a second. Yeah, yeah, that's right. But yeah, it's wild. He's no one had run that fast in the Olympics ever before. Wow. Wow. Another Australian was also, you know, amongst the Greg Lewis one, he's seven at a time of 20.71 seconds. That's the last I'll mention of him, but I just saw it just in case Greg Lewis's grandson is a listener,

I'd throw him a bone. What about his granddaughter? No, not for her. Not for her. Oh, Grant, look, do you want to have him looked up his family? What about great, great, grand children? Yeah, yeah, they are all invited to get a real thrill. What about his nieces and nephews?

Yes, nibbling, as I should say any of the nibbles nibbling. It's very fun. So cute According to history.com Norman was a working classboy from Melbourne The very city we're in right now Melbourne Melbourne 1942 he was born in Cobrag The road from Shibidol's years. Though he was poor, this is still from history.com. Though he was poor growing up, Norman was an extraordinarily fast runner and learned to race on spikes that his father, a butcher, borrowed due to lack of funds. In 1960, the teenager burst onto the national running scene

as a junior winning his first major title in Victoria. From then on he became a major contender in Australia and track and field. Powerful sprinter. His specialty was his finishes, an area in which some short course runners falter. Apparently he starts a real bad finishes were real great. I mean, like you said, it's so minimal. I mean, most of a hundred or two hundred meters sprint. It's all the same thing. Yeah, imagine if you fix up your starts, Peter. You're a bit slow.

You lose a lot of time. Yeah. So I just breaking Olympic records. He, um, so he was doing a bit of athletics and he got into running a bit by accident. Uh, the relay team was one man short. So they, and apparently the story goes that he, he and his mate were asked, is either if you want to just fill in on the relay team, he was doing a hard jump and shot put at that time, long jump. And he goes, yeah, I'll be up for it. And they're like, the three guys, they'll have you in front and you just have to run to the finish line and win the race, but they'll be smashing it.

But apparently there was a bit of a fumble in the first bat and change over, so he was a little while back and he just flew home and won the race for him. And he was one of the best on the track. And he'd never run before. Yeah, which should have been a funny thing to realize. I used to do the relay, but I never went first or third because I didn't like running around the corner. Oh, right. Just the straights for me, thanks.

That's true. So second or fourth, traditionally, the fastest person. Yeah. That's what you use saying, Bolt is right. Yeah, that's the way it's bringing on home. Fourth is your fastest. So yeah, that's funny that you had the power, though, to make that demand.

So you're obviously a powerful runner. Oh, it's it's funny that you had that you had the power though to make that demand So you're obviously a powerful runner. I was fast. Yeah In the quarter final Smith Carlos and Norman all won their heats moving on to the semifinals Tommy Smith won his semifinal Again breaking the Olympic record this time in 20.14 seconds So the Olympic record has been broken multiple times already. Awesome. Before John Carlos broke it once more in his semi-final. So I think that's 4 times. Each of those three guys have had at least once broken so far. Peter Norman finished in a close second place with the time of 20.22. So 0.1 seconds.

Oh, is this still in semi? That's semi. Yeah. So they've all qualified now for the final, which makes sense because we know that they're on the podium at the end. So be wild for them not to qualify. That's how good it is. Unfortunately for Smith. Someone else dropped out. He ran onto the podium. He was there.

Oh, I'd never run an Olympic final before, but all right. I reckon I can give it a try. I'll give it a go. They're like, the other guys will get you in front. You just have to run to the finish line. Oh my god, he's got a medal. Unfortunately for Smith, he pulled an abductor muscle during a semi-final.

I've never even heard of that muscle. What's that? Jesse, all the weights, personal. Yeah, I met. It's up high in the leg, the weights person, isn't it? Yeah, I know. It's up high on the leg, I think. Oh, yeah. Up doctor. I think so.

Hello. I don't think I've got one. No, I don't think you do, mate. So he was still able to run in the final, but I mean, obviously that's a bit of a blow for who would be the favorite going to the race. I mean, pulling a muscle in your leg when you're a runner. And your race is the next day for the final.

Oh, no. But he was still able to run in the final. He had to do so though with his thigh wrapped. I'm guessing that's where the abductor is in. Yeah, it's right. It's like in your groin. Yeah. All right, that explains it.

I don't know. You don't, yeah. I never groin. Your body skips from your belly. It's like in your groin. Yeah, all right, that explains it. I don't know if I'm, yeah. I never groin. Your body skips from your belly. It's kind of, it's like, to your knees instead of a, it's groin and into your thigh a bit. I depends, yeah. Yeah, that feels like a pretty important running muscle there,

is it? Yeah, because the abductor is used to pull a body part away from the midline of the body. So for example, the abed muscles of the leg spread the legs away from the midline. So yeah, your pelvis kind of area. Probably quite sore if you're running on that. Oh, so that would be super painful. Anyway, the stage for an epic final showdown was set.

There was a false start, which I guess built up the tension even more. There was a hotly anticipated race. The Australian commentator who was over there, Tony Carlton, remarked, this is the hottest 200 meter field ever assembled at the Olympic Games. That's cool. So there were babes too. Yeah, super hot field. Awesome.

Check out his rig. Oh my God. They were like, if you don't run that fast, you can certainly walk the catwalk. Yeah, it's fine. I'd like to see your gutter muscle. New rule this year, boys, I'm going to run topless. So it just came in on the...

So what was that? Was that? I'm just getting a word in. Yeah, everyone's got their tops off. Yeah. Sorry about that. We've got these new special G-string running shorts. Sorry, sorry fellas. Can keep your shoes on obviously, but tops do have to go.

So. I'm afraid this event has been upgraded to a by-athlon, and you will now have to run the race and then do a swimsuit competition, and the average of that will win the gold medal. We'll get you in these white t-shirts. Oh, sorry. Oh, this pose has got crazy.

Oh, I can't do it. So the race had to restart after it was start. The second start, everyone got away clean. Carlos was leading the field around the bend by a solid meter and a half. He was flying, he got out of the box for great. But then the last 50 meters Smith accelerated. As did Norman and Smith flew out to a two and a half meter lead.

Whoa! Even on one and a half legs. And even though he slowed down and raises arms to celebrate the winners across the line, he still finished in a new world record time of 19.83 seconds. Oh, wow. We'll record with a dodgy abducted muscle. And celebrating to it. Yeah, you see at the end, he sort of, he slows over the last few paces. So he could have smashed it by even further.

Norman flew home to finish second in 20.06. He flew back to Australia. He flew home. To celebrate. To celebrate. But he forgot to go to bed right before he flew to his father Philip, finished on, and was disqualified. So he comes second.

And he just pipped Carlos who finished in 20.1 seconds. You can see at the end, Carlos sort of looks to his left and he sees Smith passing and Mrs. Norman coming down the other side. Amazingly the first four runners including fourth place Edwin Roberts from Trinidad and Tobago, who finished in a time of 20.34 seconds, all had beaten the Olympic record-smithead set in his first heat the day before. That was just like, it was just a hot race super fast. Everyone was babin' no tops.

Oh, wow. Oh, the dream. I'd commentate that, Olympics want to tell you. So the race in itself, which you just never hear about was amazing in itself. World record, like beating quite a, like those markers, like the 22nd marker. Oh, yeah, yeah, it's, it's, yeah, it's, it's pretty amazing that that's never talked about at the same time. Most weight loss programs are short-term fixes, but managing your weight needs a long-term solution.

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For Peloton's best offer of the season head to one peloton dot com all access membership separate terms apply Later that day, Carlos and Smith were ready to make their iconic protest, but it wasn't just raising their glove fists. Their protests included many symbols, according to history.com. As the athletes waited to go to the podium, Carlos and Smith told Norman that they planned to use their win as an opportunity to protest. Smith and Carlson decided to appear on the podium bearing symbols of protest and strength. Black socked feet without shoes to bring attention to black poverty,

beads to protest lynchings, and raised black glove fists to represent their solidarity and support with black people and oppress people around the world. This is from the Washington Post. The protest had been something the athletes planned carefully. Everything captured in the photo held a special significance. Smith and Carlos had walked slowly to the stand as if in morning. Their hands clashed behind their backs, each holding a running shoe. They walked across the grass of the stadium in black stocking feet.

They had taken off their shoes specifically to protest poverty in the United States. To protest the lynchings of black people, they wore a scarf and beads. Quote, I looked at my feet in the high socks and thought about all the black poverty I'd seen from Harlem to East Texas, Carlisaw and his 2011 book written with Dave Zirin, the John Carlos story. I fingered my beads and thought about the pictures I'd seen of the strange fruit swinging from the popular trees in the south.

They bowed respectfully as the Olympic official placed their medals around their necks, but when the anthem began to play, they lowered their heads to protest the hypocrisy of a country that proclaimed to uphold freedom and human rights around the world, but neglected to protect the rights of black Americans. Carlos unzipped his Olympic jacket in defiance of Olympic etiquette, but in support of, quote, all the working class people, black and white, in Harlem, who had to struggle and work with their hands all day. Carlos had deliberately covered up the USA on his uniform with a black t-shirt to quote,

reflect the shame I felt that my country was traveling at a snails pace towards something that should be obvious to all people of goodwill. Then the anthem started and we raised our fists into the air. When Smith thrust his fists into the air, the crowd fell silent. Carlos and Smith recalled later that they knew it by openly defining Olympic rules, there would be repercussions. So I, that's a, I mean, I know the photo I knew the, the fist and the gloves, but I knew nothing of all, like that was so.

I've really thought about everything. Yeah, every little element. They were wearing the black socks through the whole meat as well. Yeah. little element. They were wearing the black socks through the whole meat as well. Yep. And yeah, but it's just like so symbolic, every little element of it. And because of the backlash that we're going to talk about soon, they never really got to explain a lot of that stuff at the time. So yeah, the media really seemed to rile road it as if they were, they were just troublem makers and misusing the Olympics, which is about coming together for politics.

But they didn't really ever get to explain, or at least their message didn't seem to get through, that they, I mean, what they were talking about was it was highlighting negative things, but it was doing it in a pretty positive kind of way. Yeah it was almost like an art piece. Yeah. I can pull it out every little detail. Yeah. Before heading out to the ceremony Carlos realized that he'd left his gloves back at the accommodation at the Olympic, what do you call it, the Imperialage. Really? This is when it was suggested that he take one of Smith's gloves. This is why in the photo you'll notice that Smith is raising his right fist and Carlos is raising his left fist.

They each had one of Smith's gloves. That's something I never noticed either, which is to me it's sort of adds something to the story as well. It's kind of Norman, the Australian who came second, he asked if he could be involved in the protest. And according to history.com, Carlos and Smith suggested he wear a badge for the Olympic project for human rights that they were involved in. They'd all been a lot of the members of the American team were wearing these badges. They didn't have a spare one though,

because Norman said he was keen to, but they didn't have a spare one. So before the ceremony, Carlos got one off an American Rower Paul Hoffman who was walking by. The way they tell the story in salute was that Carlos sort of shook his hand with his right hand and with his left hand unpicked the badge and took it off without him. No, but they also talked to Hoffman and he said he was stoked to be handing it over to Norman. This is from history.com. Australia was experiencing

racial tensions of its own. For years it had been governed by its white Australia policy, which dramatically limited immigration to the country by non-white people. While the Australian government welcomed new residents from predominantly white areas like the Baltics, it regularly turned down non-European migrants. In 1966, the other sense won that's one, the permission.

It was say that. No, I actually didn't say that. Sorry, that was just sort of muscle memory getting in. In 1966, the government made the first steps towards abolishing the policy, but its effects reverberated throughout Australia. Non-Australians weren't the only people discriminated against. Aboriginal Australians too were historically oppressed in the country, which forced Aboriginal children into boarding schools, while removing others from their families, and placing them with what households.

Which is now known as the stolen generations. Norman supported his fellow Olympians' protests, in part because of the intolerance he had witnessed in Australia. Australia was not a crucible of tolerance, note Steve Geo-Jarkas, a sports study specialist from Australia. Norman, a teacher and guarded by a Salvation Army faith, took part in the Black Power salute because of his opposition to racism and the White Australian policy. Leading up to the games, there was a lot of talk about potential protests, and there was already talk about violent backlash. According to the salute documentary about Peter Norman's involvement in the protest, the three men feared for their

lives as they walked out to the podium. Death threats had been flying for weeks, and it was rumored that gunmen might be in the crowd ready to cut down anyone who dispoiled the games with an anti-racist protest. Oh, wild. So that was something going through their heads even just walking out there like they might be. I was just thinking before that like it takes a lot of guts to make that kind of statement on such a public platform, but yeah, adding that there had been death threats and already violence and anger, that is fucked, that is crazy. Imagine being in the crowd and seeing that being like, this just isn't the Olympics. I know, I make this right.

I'll shoot one of them. Yeah. What? It's all about the games that are about human beings. They're all be the hero. Yeah, self-righting humanity is the whole thing. As Smith and Carlos stood with their heads bowed and their fist raised, the American national anthem played, but the stadium fell quiet. Smith later recalled that you could hear a pin drop.

Wow. Or as Carlos would write, the stadium became eerily quiet. For a few seconds, you honestly could have heard a Frog Piss on Cotton. Both beautiful sayings we all use all the time. So, and then I actually did hear that. My God, you could hear a piss. You could hear a Frog Piss on Cotton in here. I think, yeah, that probably, I didn't really thought about that, but that probably shows you the two different characters. Smith is here a a pin drop, Carlos, frog pissing on cotton. Then he said, there's something awful about hearing 50,000 people go saw. Piss on cotton, yeah. That is not a nice end. Oh yeah, that would be so unnerving. 50,000 people go quiet. That is terrifying.

He said it was like being in the eye of a hurricane. Oh. So Norman standing at the front, they're all facing in a single file to look towards the American flag. So Norman, he knew what they were going to do. And he said, even without saying, I mean, knew they were doing it because of the way the crowd reacted in that way. Right. And you know how often these days,

because I've only ever watched Modern Olympics, like in my lifetime, of course, often there's so many events going on at the same time that they may have like a ceremony going on by the long jump might. And he said it's one of the, it was one of the hotly talked about events. And the hot content was everyone stopped. Woof, what's going on over there? Don't never mind the Fosby flop. There's something in there. Don't never mind the Fosby flop. There's something in there. Yeah. No Fosby

flops here. Look at that. I'm Fosby rock art. But I just want to point out those athletes not their value. Not their value. But they were absolutely hot. A great habit to get into. It's not your value, but you're gorgeous. So the 50,000 people totally silent for a moment, but then according to History.com, the stadium burst in a race of snares and angry insults. No. But the stadium is made up of people from all over the world. Yeah, so I imagine that it wouldn't have been 50,000 people. Do I imagine it would have been, it sounds like it was enough to cut through.

Fuck. That's awful. In the press conference after the event, Smith stated that when he wins, he's just an American. But if he does something bad, then his race is brought into it. We are black and we're proud of being black, he said. Black America will understand what we did to not. According to a BBC report at the time, within a couple of hours, the actions of the two Americans were being condemned by the International Olympic Committee. A spokesperson for the organization said it was a deliberate and violent breach of the fundamental principles of the Olympic spirit.

It is widely expected the two will be expelled from the Olympic village and sent back to the US. To me it just doesn't, I don't, I mean at the different time, but I think even now they're not athletes aren't allowed to make such statements. But to me it just, I'd, yeah. Yeah, I mean, the Olympics is always political, because people don't go to certain countries, don't go to other countries because they've got issues with other countries. They've got beef.

Yeah, they've got beef, you know? Governments bid for it and fund them, and it's all very political. It's very political, yeah. A lot of maneuvering behind the scenes. It feels like one of the most political things there is. But often when you hear people say we don't like you getting political at sport and happens in the NFL a lot, people what I think they mean is we don't like you getting political with things I disagree with.

Right. Yeah, it's quite frustrating. Now, I feel like people like the AFL often backs some sort of a positive, what seemingly to me, positive cause, and there'll be always people on line, footy fans, supposedly saying, just can't we just play stick to footy, try winning the game stop getting distracted but

they never they don't talk about that in you know of like there's a st. Scam the Maddie's match where they're raising funds for medical research but if it's to raise the st. also player pride game which is about respecting everybody that one's political. Yeah. Yeah. If it's just play 41, you're saying that for all. You're not saying that during the last post before the answer. Yeah. Yeah. Let's not make this political. So it's a bit frustrating and it just seems like that's just a long term thing. That's just my cock opinion. So they were expecting, so that article where

it was said they were widely expected to be expelled from the Olympic village, sent back to the US, that was written at the time, and they were right, that's what happened. Really? In the salute documentary, one of the American who would have been the one on the American Olympic committee, he's like, I'm not making that cold. He's getting pressure from the who would have been the one on the American Olympic Committee. He's like, I'm not making that cold. He's getting pressure from the IOC to do that. And he's like, I'm not doing it.

If you wanna do it, you do it, but don't put that on to us. And then they said, if you don't expel them, I think this is what he said. If you don't expel them, the whole American teams expelled. What are you talking about? That just wouldn't have happened. Actually, that would be Australia's dream because if the Americans are out,

we can actually win some gold medals. Get us in there. So I commonwealth game is our time to shine. I used to be until the brits got good again. So I started caring about sport again 10 years ago. That's it. It's our only chance to win basketball, that's for sure. Yeah, well top four on the Olympics three different times. The guys led boomers.

Andy, Andy guys, that beautiful man. What a layup. What a head of hair. What a bat. Yeah, he's a baby. Go topless, gaysie. Shirts and skins, gaysie skins. That's me playing one-on-one with him. Imagine me trying to take on Andrew Gase. He was holding the ball just above your head. Just a little bit of friendly one-on-one. Let's play horse. Oh, that's not pants off.

Kaisy. Pine horse. Jimmy's got a big dick. I'll see him that's right, yeah. Look at that. Don't you dare. So yes, so that's exactly what happened. They were kicked out.

This is from history.com. Smith and Carlos were rushed from the stadium, suspended by the. They were kicked out, this is from history.com. Smith and Carlos were rushed from the stadium, suspended by the US team, and kicked out of the Olympic village for turning their metal ceremony into a political statement. They went home to the United States only to face serious backlash, including more death threats. Fuckin' hell! So, you know, you work so hard for so long and then you win gold and bronze at the Olympics. You don't even get a second to appreciate that.

No, no, no, that's not the most important thing to them in everything that's happening. But at the same time, it's just like, you've just done something truly remarkable and you don't even get a second to celebrate that. Yes. That's mental. Yeah. I mean, and I've seen a few people say this and possibly in the documents as well, it's like they, they won, they deserve the right to celebrate that however they like.

Yeah. They've got, they've got a minute on the podium. Why can't they quietly do a protest trying to bring attention to what they see as injustice? It just feels... They weren't being violent, they weren't being aggressive at all. Right, they just lifted their hands up. Should be allowed to do it every one in that minute.

Like, can you want to do a magic trick or something over there, that close up magic. Yeah, that's you. The other cameraman, bring him in, bring him in the other deck of cards, make the gold medal disappear. I deck everyone. If you want to prank someone, that's your thing. Yeah, I'd prank you.

I do a prank. And so if you finish first, you can deck second and third. Yeah. Second can deck third. Yeah, and then I'll deck. Second can't deck first. No, first can deck anyone. Third is not decking anyone. They're decking themselves. Third can

deck the noble person who gives it to them like their third baron of this one was a vicar or something they could attack them. And then there's always somebody else that follows that person with a little plate that holds the middle and maybe some flowers. They're dax. Yeah, they're dax. Keep it up all over their dax. Dactia. I'm not. I'm number one, dactia.

But they're all aware that they'll probably get dax because that's what becomes popular. You can do anything and then all of a sudden the new tradition is everyone's been dax. So all the dignitaries are always wearing some really strongly waistbanded boxa shorts. They've put their belt very tight that day. But my aim is as many people in one news, like,

and so I'm off the podium. Damn. I'm running as fast as I can, just dacking everyone inside, and they can't resist. Like one of those world record attempts that you see on the TV shows, like, how many watermelons can you headbutt and roll, and they line them up, and you'll just duck and down the line.

It's amazing, Jessica Perkins has now broken an Olympic record of the most dacks in one minute. She's done it! Lightning's had to have a bunch of shoes done it! But then they realize that you've got too many spikes on your shoes and it is unratified. It's a rocket dacking. Would you get extra points for getting the undies as well? Or is that a, is that a? I don't know, no, I think you can just scroll off on. Because it takes more art to just get the pants.

And no one, no one's out there looking to see cock and ball. Yeah, I just want to have their cock and ball shown. Just jocks. Channel seven's bit for the rights. They don't want to show that. Yeah, you're right. Two hard to blur life.

Yeah, especially with once you're through. Ha ha to blur life. Yeah, especially once you're through. We have blur for 60 people. Honestly, there is not enough screen left that is not to be blurred, because I've checked them all. They'd be aware of that too. So they'd probably have to shoot from behind. Yeah, just bumps. Because bumps are, there's different levels

of nudity, right? Or nudity. Nudity. Nud-D-TAY. NU-D-TAY. Ha ha ha. Anyway, sorry. I want to silly do you know? It's a scratch, but...

But they... I agree with the documentary they should... They're allowed to do whatever they want. Yeah, they... Especially if it's quiet protest, it's not violent. Not inciting any hatred or anything. It's just... Quietly...

Pointing out... There's a... A few changes that maybe should be made. Yeah. Smith and Carlos still talk about that now. They're like, you know, there's been modern protests and they're like, as long as it's respectful, it's not vulgar. I don't know. So maybe they won't like the dacking, not do you.

It was the guy who came out of the Big Brother House and he put... The boy would tape on his face. Yeah, he put tape on his face. The Big Brother House. That was a harmless protest. Yeah. He didn't get... Well, he had already been evicted from the Big Brother House, so I suppose he did get sent

home. So it's very overseas. This is... It might not remember that iconic moment. So he'd gone to the Big Brother House and they search you before you go in to make sure, I don't know, to make sure you're not bringing anything that they don't want you to into the house. Some sort of dacking gloves or anything like that. And he'd taped inside his t-shirt, I believe, like a piece of paper that said, like, free of the refugees. Right. And then when he was in the, he got a

victim and he usually did the interview with the host. He comes out Tape over his mouth and then you just sat there and He'll the sign his name is Merlin Merlin. Oh wow What a great name Holy moly grittles like they should have been doing close-up magic Merlin, when you get to do these tricks you promise to We booked you for the magic, Merlin. Merlin. You've been in the big brother house for two months.

You haven't had a single trick. That's how you were evicted. The other people in the house were just getting bored of you. God damn it. So I guess what I'm saying is, did they think of just doing that? Well, it hadn't happened yet, so they weren't. The Merlin influence, because everyone protests that way now.

Yeah, obviously, it's in the middle of the day. Did they do the Merlin way? So yeah, I keep coming back to this. The two of the fastest men of all time had just, compete in this amazing meet, breaking multiple records, each of them breaking the Olympic record, finishing with Tommy Smith breaking the World Record, and then they go home to America

where they should be heroes, for multiple reasons, at least just for running real fast, but also for standing up for equality and whatnot, but instead they go home for death threats. The Smithsonian writes that among the fallout for Smith and whatnot, but instead they go home for death threats. The Smithsonian writes that among the fallout for Smith and Carlos, this columnist named Brent Musburger, dubbed them Blackskins Storm Troopers. Villains.

What does that mean? Oh, Villains, okay. Yeah, it almost sounds like a positive thing. What was his name? Brent Musburger. Brent Musburger. Brent Musburger. Yeah, apparently he would gain fame as a TV sportscaster, but was then a columnist for the Chicago American newspaper.

And they also got a lot of anonymous death threats. The pressure color says was a factor in his then wife's suicide in 1977. No. One minute everything was sunny and happy, the next minute was chaos and crazy says. Smith recalls, I had no job and no education and I was married with a seven-month year old son. This is from the salute documentary. Smith returned from the Olympics' destitute as the holder of 11 world records. The only employment he could find was manual labor washing cars. What? He later recalled and this from the doc as well. I got fired because of my belief in equality. My boss said if you

don't stop this trashy talk you've been doing you won't have a job. 11 times, holder of 11 world records. Talking about equality and being like, oh, that's enough. And he's not a conspiracy theorist, you know? Yeah, but just one day. You believe in five Gs causing corrode of our? No, mate, if you don't stop banging on a mat flat earth,

I'm gonna have to get someone else. Yeah. We sell globes. Yeah, and you keep convincing people. Not to buy globes. Yeah, and you keep convincing people not to buy globes. You're ruining business. That makes sense. That makes sense. I think I'm in the... In the docker, I was also mentioned they were...

They weren't allowed to compete anymore as well. What? The Olympic body band, I think the bar band. They're just one, they're just one first and third at the Olympics. They are the best you have. None of it makes sense to me. So if I'm focusing on the negatives too much, but it is, all of this is pretty mind blowing to me.

But I love to, you go back, you hear them in multiple interviews. They say no regrets, they do it the same again. Yeah, wow. That's kind of heartening. They're very strong people. In salute Carlos remembered that his brothers were discharged from the army two days after the protests. What?

They were like, what happened? And they go down, they're like, what did you do? Doesn't that, doesn't make any sense to me. Doesn't make any sense. But nothing to do with them. Yeah. But it's just out of spite. It's just fuck you and fuck everyone.

How dare you stand up. Exactly. How dare you disagree? So we're just going to ruin everything. And it's just out of spite. There's no logical purpose to it. According to Smithsonian, Smith earned a bachelor's degree in social science from San Jose State in 1969,

and a master's in sociology from Goddard Cambridge graduate program in social change in Boston in 1976. After teaching and coaching at Oberlin College in Ohio, he settled in Southern California where he taught sociology and health and coach track at Santa Monica College. This is like he sort of put it all to one side as much as he could and lived to what it sounds like kind of a a nice life. And he's still kicking, he's still liven it. He's retired now though. According to blackpass.org, after graduating from San Jose

stayed in 1968, he played wide receiver for the Cincinnati Bengals. There's a little fun fact now, saying he'd offer a bit of zip for the same. Yeah. Well, he did that for the Cincinnati Bengals and NFL. And then that's before he went to coach Obulan College in Ohio and become a teacher. As for Carlos, Black Past says, after graduating from San Jose State 1970, Carlos briefly played professional

football himself with the Philadelphia Eagles in the NFL. And then the Montreal Allo allo to alloo. How did what's that? It's a French. He's top allo wets allo wets allo wet. I was well anyway that's what you played for the Montreal allo wets and the Toronto arega noughts which is fun what's an arega nought.

Those people that hang out with Jason. I assume this I always thought some sort of astronaut. I mean, what do they go under the sea? You know Jason and the Argonauts? No. Argonauts were a band of heroes in Greek mythology who in the years before the Trojan War accompanied Jason to cultures and his quest to find the Golden Fleece. Well, don't, Dave. Well, you know, other things, Golden. quest to find the golden fleece. Well done Dave.

Well you know other things golden, golden tonsils, golden fleece. Golden fleece. Which I'm going right now. Yeah, I know you are blinding. Yeah, sorry about that. Was that rain just quite ostentatious to rock up to the podcast wearing this? But I mean, you've got it flaunted.

No, please don't. I'll cover up. Or go shirtless. Thank you. Please show skins. Will you record? Let's do a shirt and skins podcast. That's not your value, Dave. Well, I know. But thank you for that. Thank you. It's God for that. Carlos also kind of followed Smith in a way to become a counselor and tracking field coach at Palm Springs High School in California. So they followed similar career paths after the Olympics.

In the decades after the 68 Olympics, Smith and Carlos would have what Smith described as a strained and strange relationship. According to the Smith's Zonian, Carlos says he actually let Smith pass him in 1968, because, quote, Tommy Smith would have never put his fist in the sky had I won the race. Smith who won the race in a world record 19.83 seconds dismisses that claim as nonsense. And I, yeah, I, or who knows, but I feel like,

if I was gonna have a guess, I'm with Tommy Smith on this side. Just watching the race. It didn't Yeah, anyway Yeah, the fact that it was world record time. Yeah, he hadn't let him go. Yeah, yeah, right otherwise What was he was he thinking that he could shave two seconds? Yeah, I was I've seen a quite a few times that the Aussie man I've seen a quite a few times that the Aussie man, Peter Norman, has said he didn't think anyone could have beaten him without a motorbike. Smith is so fast couldn't beat him without

a motorbike. And that's fast. Imagine once he saw all segues. What a blow his mind. Both men insist they have no regrets about 1968. I went up there as a dignified black man and said, what's going on is wrong Carlos says. Their process, Smith says, was a cry for freedom and for human rights. We had to be seen because we couldn't be heard. It's a pretty great quote. Yeah.

Norman faced backlash of his own. Norman the Aussie man for his part in the protest. It's such a low key part, but it was seen as been huge by the other athletes. It was just standing with them basically. He didn't put his fists in the air. He wore the badge. It's very subtle sort of way to be involved, but he did face backlash all the same. He was keen to compete

at the 1972 Munich Olympics, but according to Norman, despite qualifying multiple times for the 100 and 200 metre sprints, the Australian Olympic Committee decided not to send him on some sort of technicality. I think they said he was injured at a certain time. And instead they sent no sprinters. What? As if they'd sent any, they'd have to send him. This is according to Norman. Yeah.

At that point, he says he was ranked number five in the world. So probably could have got a run. Could have done pretty well again. Which seems like an odd decision for the Australian Olympic Committee to make. He quit athletics that day. The day found that out. Shit.

And took up amateur footy in the Victorian amateur league. So yeah, I didn't even connect that. So then in the interview. So they went on to footy afterwards. I mean, the VAFA and the NFL slightly different standards, but still. It makes sense though, if you've spent so much time training and that's such a huge part of your life, how do you just stop?

You know, you may as well funnel that into something else. Yeah. Unless you want to stop, then stop. Yeah, that's fun too. You do you. Yeah, but if you've done it every day, you're right. Yeah, exactly.

It's like swimmers, like they train insane hours and then once you retire and you retire young, it's like you're so used to exercising so much that if you just stop, it's gonna be such a shock to the system. Right. Yeah, often they put on weight and things, don't they? Because it's like you usually you're burning 30,000 and thousands of... Absolutely. ...pillagers and now you're not getting up at 5.3. Yeah, and swimming for three hours and then going to school and then going and swimming

for another three hours. You know, the training is insane. It's a big change. This is still on Norman from history.com. All good things must come to an end. He died without being acknowledged for his contributions to the sport. Though he kept his silver medal, he was regularly excluded from events related to the sport. Even when the Olympics came to Sydney in 2000, he was not recognized.

That's awful. And so at that point, and still now, his time and that race is still the Australian record. And he wasn't acknowledged. No. It's too 1968. There'll be some involvement. They're like, wait, wasn't he? Surely he was. And others, but it seems like it's gotta be on purpose, right? It's either a bigger oversight or people in the committee

32 years later were holding a grudge about him standing there wearing a badge for equality. It's such a weird thing for people to be upset about. You want everyone to be treated equally. You're a boss. You're never running this down again. What are you talking about? But I haven't written about this, but I did hear about the...

He's very well respected, or at least he was in the American athletics world. And even though he wasn't even invited officially to the Australian Olympics by the organizers, an American did invite him, he bought him flights, he let him... He gave him his hotel room to stay in. He said, hey, you're coming as a guest of honor to the Michael Johnson's birthday party tonight. He was like the world star and the 200 meters at time. Michael Johnson met him and he's like, I'm a big fan. All the team members seemed to know who he was and he's like, I didn't think anyone knew much about me. But he found that he'd made a real big impact in the American athletics world. And

they really, I think, made him feel pretty good during the 2000 Olympics when the Australian Olympic Committee did not. I'm glad he got to have some involvement. Yeah. He was at the 1956 Olympics as a boy because he was from Melbourne. That's the home town Olympics. Apparently he got in by, he rocked up, he didn't have a ticket and he saw a guy

loading up a, like he had a pie van and he goes, I'm listening. And he said, oh, can I give you any help or anything and the pie man was like, I don't see what you're doing, he goes, you can have one of these pie trays, cell pies go in. If you sell any, bring me the money back and give me that, just chuck the pie tray back in the van

before you go. But yeah, you go and have fun. So I think that's what it would be. And he did that for a couple of days in a row. He stole 26 pies every day. Every day. Didn't sell one. He just go in and put the pie tray straight down.

That's a great story. When Norman died in 2006, Carlos and Smith, who had kept in touch with Norman for years, were Paul Barrett's his funeral. That's beautiful. Yeah, so they flew, I think, Norman's nephew flew them down and they spoke really kindly there as well. I think they remained, I don't know, super close friends, as of distance, but they stayed in contact.

They stayed in contact and remained friendly. You could hear that they all had a lot of respect for each other. It took until 2012 for the Australian Government to apologise for the treatment Norman received in his home country, but this is still from his she.com But even though it cost him his career and much of his happiness Norman would have done it over again I want to silver medal he told the New York Times in 2000 But really I ended up running the fastest race of my life to become part of something that transcended the games According to the conversation, the website,

there are two statues commemorating the salute in America. Quote, one of them is at the new National Museum of African American History and Culture in Washington, DC, which depicts the three sprinters. And the other, quote, was erected in 2005 on the campus of Smith and Carlis as alma mater, San Jose State University in California. For this piece, the second place podium was left empty.

Norman had declined to be depicted to allow visitors to stand in his place in solidarity with the two Americans instead. And you see a lot of photos, like that people take stand, take their photos, it's a really great, interactive kind of statue. At the statues unveiling, Norman Smokes has smoked. He was nervous. Yeah. I've just seen someone with my hands, you know. But he also spoke, saying, athletes work an entire lifetime

for the privilege and the honor of standing on an Olympic dius, dais. Why? To hear the adulation of the rest of the world when they stand up there. These two guys gave away that glory in 1968. And San Jose State, you're giving them back that glory today and I thank you for that. Wow, that's lovely. Really lovely quote. I've found this article just before we recorded.

And this is only from early in this week week it's off the Bleacher Report and it quotes an interview that he did just recently so I thought I just read the whole article is pretty short. Dr. Tommy Smith told Turner Sports Ernie Johnson on NBA together that he still receives death threats 52 years after he and John Carlos's human rights salute during the 200 meter metal ceremony at the 1968 Summer Olympics in Mexico City. That is crazy. That's fucking why?

Johnson asked Smith how people viewed him and about the difficulties he endured when he came back home following the games. He replied, I still received death threats. And then Johnson replied, hold it, hold it. Dr. Smith really? And Smith said, oh yes, that's very easy for me to say because I'm the one that read the letters. I'm the one that answered the phone. I'm the one that was on the streets. Yes, yes, I don't lie. I just tell the truth like it is. And I move on and do the best I can to be honest with everybody. Smith then mentioned that his wife tried to report the death threats to police.

My wife when I was in Mexico, so this is right back, my wife when I was in Mexico received death threats while I was gone. While I was in Mexico City, the police station even, even she told them what she was going through through they laughed her right out of the station Smith then added that he received hate mail as recently as two months ago about the 1968 protest Smith who called this protest a cry for freedom one gold despite racing with a pooled groin That's probably there we go. That's all we needed. Well, it was a caron. A caron.

A doctor. I love the, we've learnt that. I've never forget that. I'm not great with muscles. I'm good with bones. I'm not good with muscles. I guess you said you'll never forget it. I'd already forgot it.

What was it? Oh, there we go. I've heard of the groin. I have, when I was a kid, I had groin running issues, and it was the worst. Very painful. And I was pretty chronic it sort of once you get an issue with it, you can hang around for a while. So it's, yeah, I mean that just hammers at home how amazing this run was.

And yeah, I was going to finish with another part from his own website, but maybe I don't need to do it. It sort of does just go back through things again. But it finishes by saying, Dr Smith is the first place in record-breaking medalist has been asked numerous times what he was doing and or thinking in that moment. His response, praying. I was praying underneath the ble- the bleachers. I was praying on the walk-up to the victory stand, and the entire time I was up there. It was not a black power salute as has been written on numerous occasions. It was a human's right salute,

human right salute more than anything else. And I guess that is the end of my report. Wow. About the 1968 human rights salute. I'm not sure what I'll call this episode. Maybe it'll even be called the 1968 Olympics 200 meter sprint. Yeah, maybe. But yeah, anyway, we can talk about that later. It's called the salute. Oh, the salute. That's beautiful. The one finger salute. Yeah, I mean a lot of Aussies

Might have heard that story. Australians have a real inferiority complex as well So any way that we can tie ourselves to anything interesting by God will do it. So I've heard that story only from the context of Peter Norman and how he was involved and people will really hold on to the fact that he actually was the one who suggested they wear one glove each. So in a way, he's the hero there. And you know, there were consequences for him and he was an amazing person himself, but I knew very little about the two men actively involved. Yeah, and that came up a lot and a lot of the articles.

Because I think Pete and Orman, until 10 or so years ago when his nephew put out the documentary, that was when he started getting his recognition. But I think it's almost over corrected. So we're missing the point if we're focusing on the white guy in this story. Absolutely, yeah, yeah, we're going, isn't this white man wonderful? And it's like, no, no, let's, yes, sure. But that's not what it was all about.

And Peter Norman wouldn't have wanted us to consider him the real hero of this story. The interview's so well in this. And that documentary, I mean, probably for obvious reasons, it focuses on him. It was made by his nephew. And it is really good. But yeah, I think it yeah, he speaks so well and I would assume that he would not

enjoy it ending up that way. Like he did with the statue. I was thinking that yeah. Chose to not even be represented in it if he had the choice. He's saying thanks for doing this for them. It's not about him. Yeah. Yeah. So I did have that thought as I was reading on my head. There was plenty more of his story that I could tell, but also plenty more of the other two. But yeah, interesting to look at, you know, the race and the Olympics as a whole. I didn't know, I was almost embarrassed at the start

that I didn't know about the massacre and things like that. It was a long time before I was alive. Yeah, and it was covered up for apparently quite a long time until the full weight of it really came out. That's a wild. Great story. It's the kind of thing that's the kind of report that hopefully Dave will do one day

and we can really learn all about it. Hmm. He intend. But not a great story and I didn't know as much about those two guys so it was nice to hear a bit about them too. Yes and just the fact that it never really comes up that he was a world-beating, world record holder. He, uh, Tommy Smith, he just seems like a real, real nice guy as well. I can talk.

Love a grown man that still goes by Tommy too. Yeah. With an I.E. Two. Oh, okay. Bit different. That's fun. John Carlson is great too.

I really, yeah, I, I enjoyed them all. Big bit of who's Johnny Carlson, obviously that, um, Johnny Carlson is great too. I really yeah, I enjoy them all. It'd be better if he was Johnny Carlson, obviously. Johnny Carlson and Pety Norman. Wow, like you just think because we just don't as a country we don't have sprinters. So that's why that's that is one of the commoners. I was going to say, ships. Who made who we never made a final, did he, in the Olympic? We've got some hurdlers. Surely, shurps.

Yeah, but some decent hurdlers. Good hurdlers. Yana Pittman. Sally Pearson. Yeah, she's like the best. Yeah, she's very good. But I think, yeah, that's why it's so wild that he wasn't invented the 2000 Olympics.

Australia's greatest ever sprinted. An invented or invited. Yeah, exactly. He still holds a record decades later. And you don't, you don't honor him. I should double check that. But that's what they said. Well, I mean, that documentary was 10 years old.

So that was 10 years ago. But I mean, who's now you're going to Australian sprinting the last 10 years ago, but I mean, who's, now you're in an Australian sprinter in the last 10 years? I don't keep my eyes on the athletics as much as maybe I should. I love the earths. Yeah, did you got into it a bit growing up? Probably because I liked doing it myself. Right. So I did watch a lot of athletics.

Yeah, but no, not so much of late. What are my favorite events to watch at the Olympics? Swimming? Gymnastics. Oh, yeah. I look away when they land, but apart from that love gymnastics. If anything that Royal and HG are commentating? I'm in.

No, I've got to report many. Thank you for sharing. It is still held by Peter Norman. That's wild. Amazing. Sorry, sherbs. No, I didn't make a choice. What's that 52 years ago? That's fucking mental. Was he quite old when he died? Do you remember? No, it was quite young actually. It was 64. Oh, no. Yeah, 64. So, he was quite a young man at the Olympics too then. Yeah, yeah.

So, he was born in 42. So, he's, well, you know, that's probably standard running age. Or I can add to what maybe the peak of Olympic fashion as well, with the 68. They did a little shorts. So, they, oh, yeah. So, tracks it. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I'm thinking of the running shorts. So, Matt, so, Matt's just showing us the iconic photo. I think one of the reasons I didn't know. I think in the running shorts. So, Matt's just showing us the iconic photo. I think one of the reasons I didn't know about the socks is that they are covered up by officials in that angle. Oh, I think that angle. Yeah, I thought it was that. There are other angles of it. I mean, there's also the man who took the photo.

I could have talked a bit about him. He didn't even think it was a big deal as he took it. There's quite a few people got the shots, but he got the best ones fully showing everything. It's the most iconic one, the one that you've probably seen. And he didn't think of it as a big deal apparently. He didn't seem to notice the crowd was reacting in any particular way.

Well, it didn't seem quite to him because it was just like, do his camera. And the other 50 photographers around him, it didn't seem quiet to him because it was just like, do his camera and the other 50 photographers around. It was very loud. Yeah, there are types of stuff to read and watch on this. If you want to get more to the story, as always, there'll be links in the show notes. There are multiple documentaries.

The one I watched was the one that a few of our listeners who suggested the topic that was, I think, their way into the story, and that's why they suggested that I don't watch that one. But there's other ones that I'm keen to watch some American ones as well. And maybe if you're interested, you could do the same. Here you go, on.

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Mick Muff's. I mean, Mark Muff. I'm a bracket wife of laughs. Mike Muff's, thanks. Robert, Jai's asked us a question this week. It's going to say that the Mark's were using Donut of Muff, so I don't know if he needs to have a word to the president. He's a muffler. Jai, could you, if there's been don't have muffs, so I don't know if he needs to have a word to the president There's a muffler's

Joy, I could you if there's been any positive Problems this week then that's because you haven't been doing you got damped job Anyway, Joy asks the question if you had to rename Australia states what would you call them and why? well, you know what They're okay the East Coast has like, I guess, interesting names for one of a bit of a word. But then it's just that one, South Australia is Western Australia and Northern Territory. You know, give them something a bit of fun.

I reckon if I was to rename them, I would play a prank on Australia. What would you do? Where would you do? South Australia. South Australia is now Western Australia. Northern territory, still Northern territory. Just so when you look at it, you're not that confused. Right.

So people, low into a false sense of security. Queensland becomes Canada, New South Wales, Giles House. Yep. Giles House Wales. New Giles House Wales.. Giles House Wales. New Giles House. Wales. Victoria and Tasmania swap names. Love that.

Would be Tasmanian. Yeah. What do you think? Fantastic. That's a bit of fun. I'm okay with that. So, prank chair, Westonstral and Southstral. Got them.

Got them a beauty. Yeah. It would be so much easier for us to do than America for instance for their 50 Yeah, I would say I just know more after great thank you to players There it is yeah, Nikki Wimma from Western Shaka Western Shire Wimma land. That's pretty good Just Wimma sounds Wimma. Yeah Wimma is great Ben Long current players from the Northern Territory call it long land Like that love Love that.

Who else do we got? Tasmanians, Darryl Bulldogs from down there, I believe. Bulldogs. That's black. Yeah. These are fucking great. Miletime favorite, Frankie Packett. It's from Victoria.

Packett. Packett. It's Packett, enough? Yeah, Packett's good. Packett's good. Packett, Aneia. Aneia, you've got, he's new, so, he has plenty of hazes from up there, so. Hey, is Mania?

Oh, I love that. And then Queensland. I know Nick Riva was born in Tasmania, but he lived, he grew up mainly on the gold coast. I'll take it. Take that. So, Riva. Land. Riva land. Yeah, okay, great. Take that. So, Reewald. Land. Reewald Land.

Yeah, okay, great. Love that. Well done. Hey, go, Jyre, that answers your question. Jyre, hopefully that is exactly the kind of... Do you think that Jyre's intending to propose a referendum and is trying to get some ideas for what we should rename everything? If so, look, give me a call.

We can talk through some of those. There's a lot of options for Victoria for other players. Obviously Robert Harvey. Maybe we could like, we could like rename like Christmas Island or something. Oh yeah. Island. Harvey Bay.

Stewie Low as well. Harvey Bay. We could call Harvey Bay Harvey. Yeah, change the E to the A. Yeah, great. Fantastic. What about this one? Harvey Bay. We could call Harvey Bay, Harvey Bay. Change the E to the A. Yeah. Yeah, great. Fantastic.

What about this one? Thank you so much, Joe. Where is it from? Joe Trombley. Who? Any relation? Maybe because his title is the average Canadian. And our friend, Al set Trombley, virtual, is from Canada.

Joe has given us a fact. Oh, I love a fact, Joel. I love a fact. Hit us with it, Joel. Joel's fact is, John B. Good Enough, which sounds like a completely made-up name, won the 2019 Nobel Prize in Chemistry

for the development of lithium ion batteries. Is that true, Dave? Well, that's a great name. John B. Good Enough. Sorry. And I? I think that is. Johnny B. Good Enough What's a great name? John be good enough. And I I think that is Johnny be good enough What a great name John be good enough Fantastic so good. Yeah, oh honestly everyone read the nominees and went just give it to that guy John come on. It'll be funny when we read it out lithium who cares? I don't care who cares? Whatever give him

Give him the medal. Give him the medal. Someone said his name, John, John be good enough and the other one was like, yeah, you're right. He is. Give it to him. Thank you so much, Joel, Tron Blay. From Tessa Chilcott, Tessa offers us a quote.

Tessa given herself the title Creative Director of Oscillation and Fashion. Sorry about excessive use of track pants. Never apologize for that. Sorry for the excessive use of track pants and old teas. We're working on it. No, please, you've perfected it. Don't worry about what genes yesterday for the first time in ages. I was like, what are these prisons? I've been wearing a tuxedo in isolation. Do you have, do you sleep in pajamas? Yeah, shorts though, pajamas shorts. Can't picture you in shorts. Really?

What about when we went to the toilet? I have a poor imagination. We went to the toilet. I had a short time. I was like, what's the problem? I was like, what's the problem? I was like, what's the problem? I was like, what's the problem?

I was like, what's the problem? I was like, what's the problem? I was like, what's the problem? I was like, what's the problem? I was like, what's the problem? I was like, what's the problem? I was like, what's the problem? Yeah, shorts though, jama shorts. Can't picture you in shorts. Really? What about when we were at the time? Poor imagination. We were at the Thailand? Yeah, it did have shorts on. Yeah, right.

Yeah, I was wearing a tuxedo on the floor. And it was nice. Quick dry tuxedo. Anyway, Tessa, chill cod is offered as a quote. And that quote is, I'm free of all prejudice. I hate everybody equally. That's from WC Fields. Very good.

Very dry. You've been ripped off a lot since then, I think WC. I think that's bound to be on a t-shirt. And finally, this one's from Luke Durham, and Luke has titled himself Chief Researcher in the Do-Go-On Archives. Oh, it's good to have someone working away down there. Thank God. Not twirling in our ad caves. It's getting messy in there.

And this is another quote. And this one comes from Terry Pratchett. And it says, it's vital to remember who you really are. It's very important. It isn't a good idea to rely on other people or things to do it for you. You see, they always get it wrong. That's pretty good. Oh, it's nice.

Yeah. To approach it, I had some good ideas too, I reckon. Remember who you are, because other people will get it wrong. That's good. Yeah, you stop relying on other people to for your, what do you call that sort of stuff, your identity or whatever. Should probably take feedback though, if people are saying you're acting like a real asshole. No, no, no, no, this is my, I didn't only I know who I am. I'm the legend. I'm the best. The people like you're even asked, well,

you've got it wrong. Yeah, I think you'll find I'm the best. It's very p-said. No, but in essence, that's a lovely quote. That's good. Ah, love that. So that gets us to everyone else's favorite section of the show. If you didn't love that, this is your fate. Well, this is for you. We thank a few of our Patrons,

and Jess, you normally give us a little bit of a game to play here. Yes, I thought of this earlier. What if we gave them their Olympic event? Oh, great. Oh, that's good stuff. Real event? Does it matter?

I was thinking real, but you can make one up if you want. Well, not necessarily. Oh, can I kick things off? Please. Well. We're very desperately set for this episode. Please! We beat this!

I would love to thank, uh, from Preston in Victoria. I would love to thank Alice Carol. Alice Carol. It's a nice name, it's a nice. It's a nice. Well done, Alice. You didn't, you nailed it. And Alice Carol is, of course, a fantastic athlete

in the field of... Discus. Oh, discuscus nice one incredible technique a really yes Strange grip or what are we talking about yeah little on orthodox on the group, but Gets results every time wow see grips it with that teeth. Yes spins around real quick. Yeah, it's Actually, she saw a dog with a frisbee and got inspired her dentist is so mad spins around real quick and just goes, shuck. It's actually... She's sort of a dog with a frisbee and we've got it in spot. Her dentist is so mad. But...

But still supporting, right? Of course, of course. But... When you're good, you're good. The dentist is like, we are going to have to replace your teeth. But, in the meantime, you are winning world records that I support you. So yeah, pretty amazing. Congratulations, Ellis. Great work, Ellis. Well done, Ellis.

I would also like to thank from Redfern in New South Wales. That's in Sydney. Oh, I've heard of it. I would love to thank Constantina Terris. Constantina Terris, great name. I think Constantina won gold in the frog pissing on cotton event. Yes. Wow. Train to the best frogs. Yeah, sort of like the equestrian events.

They're not really doing the work. Yeah. They're just riding a horse. But they trained the horse to do the frog. They're riding the frog and the. They're just riding a horse. But they trained the horse to do the... They're riding the frog and the frog then pisses on cotton. Yeah, but it's an accuracy sort of competition. Yeah, yeah.

They have to draw... Pissed design. Yeah. It's quite beautiful actually. It's like artistic. It's like rhythmic gymnastics. Yeah, artistic. They also have a little ribbon and a little frog hand.

And a ball. Honestly, there's a lot going on in the competition. So many things to judge. As baffling the first time you watch it. Now I feel too, I'm going to get the hang of it. For giving us discus. Yeah, it's a deal with their mouth. Yep, nope, you're right.

Yeah, you're right. Wow, well done. Well done, contact Dana. Can I thank you another couple of legends here? Please. I'd love to thank from a rollie stone in Western Australia. Rollie stone. Also known as South Australia and mine, you can't drink.

I'd call this a rollie stone. Yeah, from windmill rollie stone is good as well. I would like to at least suburb. I'd like to thank Caitlin Turner. Caitlin Turner. Caitlin Turner, who I think is a silver medalist, so second comes right after first, they're pretty good, in a hot air ballooning,

which I believe was actually at the Olympics very early on. No way, hot air ballooning. What'd you have to do? Go up and down real quick. Would it be like a long distance race, kind of thing? No, I'm thinking that maybe I could do a bonus episode on maybe weird. Because I've had some strange events. That's not that much weirder than sailing being in there, right?

Well, I guess. It's just a wind. How do you control which direction the balloon goes in? I'm like, I'm going to look this up to sink case and I'm making this up. Yeah, wonder. You know, I can change how, which direction the air is going, see around a campfire, the smoke's blowing out of your point at it, and you say, what, rabbit. And then it'll move to a different direction. Is that right?

So maybe they're just doing it. Maybe they're just doing it in hot eblin. Is that not a thing that everyone grew up with as a kid? No. We had to fire you, the person who's... We didn't have to burn things in the backyard to stay warm. We had a fireplace. We had a fireplace.

It was very bougie. So the fireplace was in the backyard? On cold nights, our mum would go get our PJs and we'd get changed in front of the fire where it was warm. Oh I love that. That's nice. Ah Baloney. Baloney was part of the 1900s Summer Olympics. 1900. It's generally now considered non-official, but the aeronautical pioneer Henry DeLavo set two world records for distance and duration. I reckon bring it back.

Brick. Duration is such a fun record to hold, but I took ages. It took long, the longest. I did it for ages. Well, he was the best until Caitlin Turner from W.A. came in and smashed it. Thank you so much. I'd also like to thank now, I'm going to have ever called themselves that. I think they should. I'd like to thank Amy Casey. Amy Casey. Amy Casey. Amy Casey. One in calculator sports.

She can type boobies. Yeah, she can type any word. Any word. Any word. You just have to spin it upside down. Yeah, real skills. And she could do it fast. That's a really incredible end of a long duration. Yeah, but also slowly. That is. Yeah, she can do a marathon of it.

It's amazing. Yeah, she was called the Wizard of Calculating. Yeah, really. That really flows through the sort of like. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my goodness.

She's the the campus of Calculus. That's better but it makes a sense. Anyway, anyway, so many people there, Amy Casey, thanks for running the show. Thank you so much, Amy. Sorry for that. I'd love Casey. Thanks for running the show. Thank you, Sarah, Jamie. Sorry for that. I'd love to thank you for May. Please.

From Dudley in England. Dudley. Dudley. Mark Harris. Mark Harris. Mark Harris. He also wrote a record, well, actually, no, sorry, Olympic record for a fastest time

to change a flat battery in his mum's car. Oh, wow. We're not talking a tie, we're talking to battery. Take the whole battery out, change it. She was on a way to the shops, had a hairdressers appointment. Oh, so it's in real life sort of thing. Yeah, no, you just mail in a video of what you've done.

Right. And they are calculated. Because that is stiff if your mum doesn't drive. Well, I mean, there are a lot of countries that... Of course, I don't have much access to lakes or ocean for sailing. We don't say anything about that. Could we not just have someone else playing the role of mum with that battery?

Oh, yeah, for sure. Well, this is the first ever time, and that's where the event came from. Oh, okay. He was the first ever Do it six minutes six minutes change the battery. I don't know if that's fast or slow Yeah, I remember where I was the day that someone beat the six-minute mom. Yeah Barrier I'm kind of to say she made it down. I've got her hair curled She looked fantastic get Get a perm.

She got a perm. Oh my word. This event was very 80s. I'm really so very happy. That's a very happy event. Wow. Mark Harris. What are you guys doing, Mrs. Harris?

I'd also love to thank from Tracy in California in the United States. Trevor Hammond. Trevor Hammond is the world analim pick record holder at car flipping. Oh. Like as in like can do it up and sell it on. Or...

That is something a bloody rich boy like you would say. Daddy, let's flip some yachts this summer. But he goes to pick apart. Caesar broken down Nissen Polsa, does it up, sells it for a tidy little profit. No, I meant more like he can physically flip a car. Oh wow. Yeah, although like on a wood lid or on to back on a wood wheel full flip Well, there's two different events. Well, there's a few different events. Obviously. There's the distance. Yeah, flipping So you just constantly rolling the car so maybe some momentum there can definitely help It's got to be an easier way to move a car.

What's the type of a... It's like a... No, but it doesn't have a tree. Right. And it's... And the handbrake is stuck on. Yeah, so he just flips it. What's the weightlifting event, something in snatch?

Clean and jerk. That snatch. Snatches as one, isn't it? Yeah, clean and jerk and snatch. Clean and jerk. That snatch. Snatch is as one, isn't it? Yeah, clean and jerk and snatch. Snatch. So, the clean and jerk is basically that you flip it, it's a normal car as it is. You flip it onto its lid and then over again, in quick succession. So, the clean is onto the lid.

Jerk is back under the lid. That's right. Snatch is just flip it fully, 360. Wow. Yeah, less people can do that. Someone must have noticed before that if you change around a jerk and clean, it totally changes its meaning. It is the sexiest of the Olympic events.

Maybe they haven't, and maybe they shouldn't have. Clean a jerk, you're doing it in the wrong order, man. You can't clean before you jerk. You should claim before you jerk. I should have saved the mint for after. Well, thanks everyone that supports the show there. We truly appreciate that. There's only one thing left to do,

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But just pop your name down. Yeah, so we got a booking. We're gonna go You're gonna book yourself in have a kid. That's great. Yeah, I can I put myself down Yeah, you've already got your own one. Oh great. Oh, I'm a place. Yes, mate. I've given can I put myself down? Yeah, you've already got your own one. Oh, great. I'll have one, please. Yes, Matt, I've given you, you've got one. Where do I joy after? Oh my God. Is there a form or? No, I've put a little plaque on it.

It says Matt's to you. Okay. Do not disturb. Well, I'll ask a manager if they've put any further info. If it was easy for you, I could rename yours Windmar. Oh, I see it. Yeah. Oh, Niki Windmar.

Tism wrote a song about him. Really? Father and son. Windmar, Windmar, Windmar, Windmar, Lock it. That's Nicky Wimmer. Tism wrote a song about him. Really? Father and son. Wimmer, Wimmer, Wimmer to lock it. That's how you become a mortal. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we break down Victoria into different places. So lock it is in the sort of in the Ballarat area. Yeah. And then you've got Peckett. Oh, I actually, so Peckett down on the the Mornington Oh, I actually, so pack it down on the the morning to Peninsula. Picked, it's Chilla. Picked, pick it, Chilla.

Picked, Chilla. Picked, Chilla. Picked, Chilla. Anyway, we do have one inductee into the Triptage Club. Did you tell us what? No, who's playing this week? This week, we are very, very lucky to be joined live by none other than the boss himself Bruce Springsteen.

No way. Little treat for Matt. Thank you so much for getting him down. That's exciting. Wow. I've seen him a couple times in huge outdoor shows, wanted an rena and wanted a hill and a hanging rock. But never inside a little club, that'll be a real thrill. What's he playing, just a bit everything? Yeah, a bit of everything.

Is he doing the classic thing where he just takes a request from the crowd if they hold up banners? Yeah, for sure. And I'll smile around this, basically everyone has their own banner. Yeah, everyone gets a go. That'll be annoying for sight lines but... Well I mean it's more of a personal experience. Bruce just points to you when you go, all right we're out my banner. Yeah. All right what Bruce song do you request when he points at you Jess? Um, um, I mean... Dave.

Born to run. Damn it, what's he gonna say? Can I go again? Yeah BORN TO RUN! Oh, we're gonna be that twice. I'd like to be a striped back accopala version. I don't know what I picked. It's a tough call.

Tough question. How refused to answer it. You asked it. That's unfair. I don't know, maybe it made me the river. You made us look like you did. Maybe. I'd say do up there, Kazali. I've seen him do Thunder Road once,

but you did like a stripped down version. I'd love to see the full E Street band version of Thunder Road. Oh, we got the whole band. We got the whole band. Oh, great. Good on us. We've got their own sleep pods. Fantastic. So we've got one inductee. One inductee from Los Angeles in California.

They should call that logo land. Wow. From from logo land in the United States. I'd love to induct in Sydney Scott. Sydney Scott. Welcome in. Welcome. Welcome. Enjoy the boss. Yeah. Is there a can of here? Oh yeah, we've got little mini hot dogs. Oh, yum

That's good Bruce Springstain food, right exactly love hot dogs and chippies and beer. It's like going to the baseball Anyhow welcome aboard Sydney Scott you bloody legend. Thanks so much Sydney Scott and bloody legend. Thanks so much Sydney Scott and to everyone that's enjoying the music of Bruce Springsteen in the Trittles Club this week and if you want to join them you can one more time go to patreon.com slash do go on pot. I'd love to to it tweeted us what your what your Bruce Springsteen request would be mine was a pretty boring in the end really. I loved to hear, I went in when I first saw him with four, I'm like these are the four I want to hear and he didn't play any of them. Now a four big songs, I'm like I'd be a chance to see all these. The night before, he played two shows at the same place at Hanging Rock. Not before, he played all four.

Of course he did. He mixes up his sadly so much that you just, you never know what you're going to get, because he just takes requests. The second time I saw him halfway it was an hour into the show and he goes all right we're going to play born in the USA in full. Then he played his whole 80s album like big huge hit album one of his many and then played another hour after that again. He played for three hours. Oh my God. Wow. It was fantastic. So I did get to see one of my big four that night

because he played that whole album, which he played glory days. Far out. That's a long time to play. Yeah. I get too tired. Me too. Yeah.

Tom Morello was guessing on guitar that night as well. He was on that tour. Anyway, anyway. That brings the end of the show, but I would love to hear people's boss requests. Yeah, let us know. And you can also let us know any other stuff by tweeting us at Dugo OnPod or hitting us at Dugo OnPod on Facebook, Instagram, and dogoonpod.gmail.com. We haven't even mentioned the web series, have we? on Facebook, Instagram, and do go on pod.gmail.com.

Oh, we haven't even mentioned the web series, have we? We've been, put an ad web series over the last couple of months. There are now seven episodes up, there's two more to go. And we'd absolutely love if you could check it out. Yeah, we've had a lot of fun with them. A lot of people have put in a lot of work. So we would love it if you would go and give them a watch and share them around

and just enjoy them. Yeah, make everyone watch it. Make everyone know what you're doing. Make them, and that's on the, uh, Stupid Old Channel on YouTube. If you win an Olympic gold medal, use your time on the podium to play that, who clipped the one of those videos.

You just have to, you're holding a laptop, pointing to the screen and giving a thumbs up to the camera. Good stuff. Good stuff. Yeah, do that please. All right, you know, honestly, if you want to go home to a backlash in your home country, that might be a short way to do. That would have been a funny game to play with the patrons of what would they spend their

one minute doing, but instead we gave them amazing world records. Yeah, and honestly, I kind of think that Smith and Carlos probably, they probably nailed it. They got it right the first time. But in terms of their event, running for 200 meters, that could be Jewish. And I think we did that. That could do with the Jewishing. We Jewish to the extreme.

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