Two In The Think Tank - 264 - Disney California Adventure Park (with Aunty Donna's Zach Ruane!)

Episode Date: November 11, 2020

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We will not let you down. Now, on with the show. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbroadcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On. My name is Dave Waniki and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart of Jess Perkins. Hi Dave, hi Matt. Hi Jess, I'm Matt Stewart and we've got another guest in with us today as well Dave. It is our absolute pleasure to welcome to the podcast for the first of a time from Auntie Donna, it's Zachary Ruaille.

Yeah. Woo. Sorry to get too comfortable, but I'm going to call you Zach. No, that's fine. I should say for the listener, you asked moments earlier if I prefer Zach and Zachary, and I'm doing a lot of promo for, we'll talk about that in a minute. And at the moment.

No, we won't. And every interview has opened with, is it Zach or Zachary? And like, just, I really haven't thought and about it that much. And now I'm like getting really anxious that it's something I should think about. Well, what are you, like,

what are your family call you? Does anybody call you Zachary? My mother when she's angry with me. Yes, that's the only time I get Jessica. And that's the vibe we like to go for without guests. And I agree with her. But to make you feel like we're scolding you. I used to have a vision.

I used to think, well, when I do comedy, I'll be Zacharwhine. The character is Zacharwhine, but when I do serious projects, it'll be Zachary Rewine. And then someone was like, yeah, but then like that's going to like fuck your Google stuff. Like no one's going to be able to Google you. And I'm like, oh no. And then, and then, and then, and then I think I picked Zachary Rewind from my socials. So then I was sort of doing that.

And then my partner was like, that's a lot of Error sounds. And I was like, are I already R of error sounds, that's a car array you were lying. Oh my god, no. And then I think about two years ago, I just shut down. I was like, I'm not going to think about this question anymore. It's irrelevant. It doesn't matter. And then just something is being born in me this week. Where everyone's asking and I'm like, I don't know. I don't think Dave knew what he was bringing up. One of the outside questions. I thought it would be her, I just just say that at the start. Yeah, great, great, fantastic. Yeah, but really,

you have the Meltdown. You have the crisis. He has a little secret about me. It doesn't matter what you ask me. It will trigger a Meltdown. I think I had about four Meltdowns in the process. But Matt also said, you know how this show works?

I'm like, yeah, I've listened, but I mean, is there secrets? Is there secrets? Is there secrets to have a choice? Yeah, that's a good point. This is a pretty standard stuff. But also a bunch of secrets. Yeah, a few secrets.

But you'll just have to navigate as we get to it. So that'll be fun. We've said a few poopy traps. Yeah. A little poopy traps. Yeah. A few poopy traps, oh, big. What other media have been doing, obviously, you don't do go on one of the big. This is one of the big gets that people

want to go on the circuit. To me, because I'm a nerdy boy. I'm a nerdy boy and I love comedy, but I also just love interesting stuff. I love you. What a nerd. Yeah, I love things that are quite interesting. Bluesa! And so for me, this is a get because it's like,

oh, I get to be a little bit funny, but then I get to just talk, well interrupted. I was about to say uninterrupted, but the whole thing is interrupted. Well interrupted. Shit out of you. I get to talk interrupted about a topic of my choice for an hour plus. Yes. And that is for someone with a nerdy boy with a big ego, this is the guess.

You have been able to do that when you've been interviewed by newspapers. No, not as much. It's a lot of... What's happening with journalism these days? It's a lot of... So we met at acting school in Broden, Mark, me, but we were always drawn to the funny characters. And we thought, well, why don't we do that? And we have... There's a major comedy festival in Melbourne,

and we just thought, let's have a go. There's a lot of that. Yeah. So I was like, please get me on something where I don't have to do that unless, as a bit, I decide to do that. Like I just did. Can we explain what you're on the plugging circuit for?

You've got a new Netflix. Yeah. It's a comedy show, which is something you've been drawn to. Not quite as interesting as I had hoped. I said to the group, we pitched an Netflix six parts sketch show and they said yes and then I was like, well, I have you, which you can sit a 26-part panel show of British people, hosted By Stephen Fry, where maybe I'm the cheeky boy, and it says cheeky things, and the interesting facts are said, and they said, well, that already exists. And I said, oh, you have quite interesting QI, and they're like, no, no, there's 50 of those.

There's already 50, that is one of them. That is one of them. So no, I do have, I have a six-part Netflix comedy, comedy, people are saying special. It's a series with my comedy group, Banzi Donna, which is the biggest thing I've ever done in my life. I'm very nervous and very excited. And that's what I'm here to promote.

And it comes out today. It comes out very same day as this podcast. And it is worldwide. Similarly, it's podcast. Did you know that? We've got a lot of release on it. But do you see a lot of people when you announce it, well, like, is it only on the Australian Netflix and yet they'll reply a lot of times? No, no.

You can get on all the Netflix. It's made by Netflix. We've done things in the past that are geo-blocked and that is a pain. The occasional nut you can see it anywhere is a lot easier than, no, you can't see it right now in your country, but we are worth not a nut watch this face. Consider a VPN, I wouldn't say that. So yeah, it is worldwide, it's very exciting. What time does this podcast go out?

Come out 11 a.m. Melbourne time. 11 a.m. Melbourne time, which I don't know what that is, Pacific time, but our show is coming out 1201 Pacific time today. Right. So in about seven or eight hours. Yeah, I reckon just jump onto your Netflix. It'll probably tell you. Yeah, it's true.

You know, they often do that. That's true. So if it's not there Yeah, it's true. You know, how often do that? That's true. So, if it's not there yet, it's not available, just check in. But here's what you can do, you can go to it, you can go, you can type in anti-donners, big ol' house of fun. This is only relevant for seven hours, so if you're listening to this podcast a day after it's gone up, this is no longer relevant, but you can type that in, you can say, remind me and it'll let you know, it'll put it on your my list.

Yeah. And if you listen to this, you know, in a year or so at the time, you can do that for season two. Well, all season one, which will just sit there as a constant reminder of the fact that we were too weird for the English-speaking world. For your big and spane. Well, big and spane. You're a big and spane.

Absolutely. Very fun. It's so exciting though. I can't wait. It's like it's one of those things where you know how you know this and you joke, Matt, but like you did your tour of the UK and like people came. Yeah, surprisingly. Yeah.

And it's one of those things I think sometimes you just go along your journey as a comedian or as a performer and you do your thing and then one more person, one more person and oh, there's an audience. And you don't really realize and it's always funny the moments where you go, oh wow, this is big. And I remember it was actually when the marketing department at Netflix sent, we'd made the show, I'd met like childhood idols like, we had our Yankovic, there's a cameo, a smile, yeah. Like Scott Ockerman was an EP, like this is

like crazy, crazy, crazy. Kristen Schild does a voiceover, and I was there in the voiceover studio. I was like, errr. Well, the best voice there is. Yeah, yeah. And so it's just this really, really strange experience, but for the most part, I was just stressed about remembering my lines the whole time. And then it wasn't until they sent the Netflix

marketing department sent the first edit of the trailer, and also just like the pictures for like the top of our Facebook and billboards if they would have made them. And it was that email that I freaked out. Yeah. It was like two years after I'd known her at this, I saw this email and I'm like, Oh!

Oh! Oh no! Oh no! They've called me Zach, not Zachary. Oh, no, it's ruined. It's ruined. It's ruined. Oh, that is why they call Matt.

I don't know if you know that he's called none of the pun king on this show. That's a pun. Someone's been out of explain what a pun is to me. Ruined, you know, you know, you know, you know, it was a Netflix comedian. Oh, God. Um, I always you know, it was a Netflix comedian. Oh, God. Um, what? Don't you always just says it's a play on words?

Yeah. But I don't. Play on words. I think there is a, there's got to be double meaning in there. Right. That's surely part of the definition. Surely there's, there's, it's, it's, it's using one word in a different context.

Right. And their puns that don't do that. We, we don't know that. We're not that puns that don't do that? We don't know, Zach. We're not that advanced. Don't know. A sudden massive conglomerate that created a thing where you could just type in pun definition. Zach, you're acting crazy. I mean, stop it. Are you pitching a new show?

Yeah, I think it's a show. I don't know. It's something, all I've got in my head is order the internet, make it ordered and then take control of the entire world with glasses. Those are the thoughts of God. Okay. Hopefully they didn't never came off. They're the Google goggles.

Oh, the Google Glass. Google goggles would have been more than that. Google goggles. That's what the one I didn't come off for. Imagine going for a swim. Should we acknowledge the fact? Is that a child or a cat? It sounds like a goat to me.

It sounds like a goat to me. It sounds like a child or a goat outside wailey. Which almost definitely will not be picked up while he's my friend. No, no. No. If we sound thrown off by someone pleading for their life, it's either a cat or a goat or a child.

Not a mess of chicks, but we assume they're pleading for their life. We're either a cat or a child. None of us have checks, but we're not pleading for their life. We're back in the same room as well. I know. We're in the Arne Donner office. We're in the inner sanctum here. This is where you used to record. We recorded a few early episodes where Broden Kelly from Arne Donner recorded. We recorded. And the Elvis episode with Nick Mason, we recorded in this room.

That's true, yeah. This is before it was the Arnie Donner office. Yeah, we, so we're in the Stubord Old Studios with you guys, and we kind of like took the common room. We're like, we don't have enough space. We'll take the common room, please. And I think there was some controversy around that, some mumbling around the office.

Mostly from me. I was starting rumors. I have a funny story about your podcast, because I, and it's about the fact that we share an office, because I remember I have a friend who's really, really into podcasts. I imagine he's probably listening. I haven't talked to him in years. And I remember the moment I realized you guys were really taking off. Was when he came to me, I used to work at a cinema and he was working at the cinema as well. And he came up to me and he said,

Hey, just so you know, one of the podcasts I listen to, often complained about how loudly you were. LAUGHTER AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH complain about how loudly you were. I often apologize for you loudly rehearsing in the room next door. I was like, wow, guys, are you doing alright? That was your reaction was good for them. Good for them, that's great. I also, I also, because I'm not, like, I've gotten into podcasts podcasts since but at the time I wasn't crazy into podcasts because I also he also was a big fan of daily planet and and and Nick Mason and and I remember I walked up to Nick and I was like

Hey, I have a friend who really liked your podcast It was just like you know when you know from someone's reaction. It's like oh He's one of many, many people. And I am an asshole. Hey, good job, little bug. It was that. It was so that.

And he was like, oh, thank you. Thank you. And he was like, oh, you're very successful. And I didn't know that. Not successful enough, you don't know the real name is podcast, really? Because I don't know why I just called it this daily planet. That's so embarrassing. Well, is that a pun?

No. No, that's just a... That's just a someone who has a Superman on them. Oh, yes. Why is it completely scabbing me? It's a weekly planet. Oh, that's fine. That's fine.

That's why I was yelling. Yeah, you're in the right. I mean, that's why I That's fine. That's why I was, you know, you're in the right. I mean, that's, that's why I'm what is that a part, is weekly planted a part on the daily plan? Well, it's a reference, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, weekly, weekly plan, it is playing off daily plan. That is not a part.

That's an homage. Right. It's a, it's a, like out of necessity, maybe. But like, if the host was named Kayleigh and they called the show the Kayleigh planet You're like that's a pun. Okay, is it? Oh my god I'm at it really really tempted to just Google. I know we've never done that before But I worry that I'm gonna get in the way of like your banter, you know, I'm just gonna stop we could end this right now Hey, but then what are you going to do for content? Exactly.

One of our bits is not, no, I want a pun is, man. Oh, we've only got two bits. The other one is not, no, what's scat and scat. The difference between scat and scat. No, I know the difference. Oh, right. You know, scat also in America also means put. What?

Oh, this is, this is, this is, do you want to the meaning for Parno? Do you want me to hold it? I don't know. I don't know. Um Who wants to just have a guess who wants to just have a guess? I definitely sure. I'd I feel like you said the double meaning I love that. I think that that's in there. Maybe a plan was with the double meaning maybe put those two things together You're covering more bases. Is pun tastic a pun? Yes. Or is that a portmanteau? Well that's great. It's not a portmanteau.

It's not a portmanteau. Exciting news for you. I've got portmanteau in my reply. Yes. And I'm so glad you said it because I was in 100% on the pronunciation. I'm even the fan. So they could be people listening like, oh. That was painful. that was painful.

What is a pun? A pun is a joke exploiting the different possible meanings of a word or the fact that there are words which sound alike but have different meanings. Oh, okay. And a Zach is someone that takes all the fun out of the promise. So everyone, I ruin everything, which is upon because I'm exploiting the fact that these two would sound alike but have different meanings. The best part about that is this time next week we will have forgotten that and we'll

be back here and you won't be here so that's to explain it so we'll have no idea. And also it still doesn't fully, that doesn't compute in my head. No. Where an example come up and I'll be like, I don't still don't know if it is or not. But now I've got some criteria I can sort of tick off. Which I've basically forgotten, but still at one point I heard the words. So that's pretty promising. Yeah. This is the longest intro I've done in so long.

I'm a scene for a long intro. I have a side project, which I'm not here to long. I'm a theme for a long intro. I have a side project, which I'm not here to promote. I'm here to promote the Netflix show. Okay, all right. But if you were to mention your side project, I'm going to beep it out. Yeah, beep it out.

I have a podcast with my friend, Mishwitch Rob, it's called Mission's Axe, like was I'm a Rama, where we watch much like your Patreon exclusive, where you watch every film starring Ben Fraser, Ben Fraser. Oh, I am. I am. Is it bad? I'm pretty in Frazier.

I watch every movie starring the character actor John Legg-Wazammo. And we, boy or our intro is long, too long. Too long. Surely Legg-Wazamorama is a pun? Yes, I believe so. That's armor armor is a pun. Yes, I believe so that's that's got to be a pun That's our new game is thinking of if we were to do other podcasts about about famous actors and my personal favorite is Michael Shenanza. Oh, that's all that's all I've got Wait, so how is leg was armor armor a pulver a double meaning of leg was armor

The leg was armor and then also like I know, maybe it's not a piece of art. Well, see, this is what I mean. It's fucking confusing. But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but APs, Scott Ockerman here, listen to his podcast and that, that shows all intro. You know, that sort of joys that it's the Exclude Week talk exclusively about whatever band they're talking about. They don't mention it for an hour and a half. We, like I was really, I'm really big into one pop past as of the moment, just because you know, it's less dishes. to one pop past as of the moment, just because it's less dishes.

And I sort of think it. And I can't express to you, I think Legwiz Amarama is more one pop past the talk than it is Legwiz Amarama. Oh! And our fans are like playing along. They're like, oh, and I'm like, but I think deep down they just want us to get to the point.

Yeah. They're humoring you. Yes, it's like, oh, want us to get to the point. Yeah. They're humoring you? Yes, it's like, oh, I can be in on the joke. It's like, you can also just tell us to stop. There's only four of you. Just shoot us at the end. Let us know what you need from us. Well, maybe we should get on with it now.

So the way this show works for new listeners is one of the four of us, in this case, at Zach. We'll go away and research a topic. We'll learn all we can about it. We'll write up a report and we'll bring it back to the others. And then we'll tell them and then they'll listen politely. Pretty much uninterrupted for an hour or so.

This way, Zach's done the report. He's here to learn us about a certain topic. We don't know what the topic is. We get on to the topic with a question. What is this week's questions, Zach's done the report. He's here to learn us about a certain topic. We don't know what the topic is. We get on to the topic with a question. What is this week's questions, Zach? Oh, that's a great question. My question is, name a company that through their history and expertise really shouldn't be messing up

the opening of a new venture. This is based on one of your earlier episodes. Does that take a fantastic question. Thank you. Thank you so much. This is the, I should also use this opportunity to say that thoughtful, considered well-written question, took me maybe 20 minutes to come up with. I had about four hours to do the report.

So start doing some maths and get excited for the second half of this podcast. But I mean we can all admit that one's a fantastic question. A great question. So good. It kind of lost me halfway through a little bit. Well you know just remember that question when I'm hitting the top points. That's all I'm saying. That was it. So it's based on an old episode. So maybe an old episode about a company that we've done. Well yes. Yes. So it's based on an old episode. So maybe an old episode about a company that we've done.

Well, yes, yes. So it's a specific, the topic I have chosen is a specific moment in our specific venture of a company. Now I have accidentally through conversation given this away to most of the people here today. So's right. So, largely Matt, this is on you together. Yes. You did say the topic out loud when you were finishing the report while I was driving you here. You just said the key word. And then went, oh no, oh no.

There are details beyond that that I don't think I've given away. I'm trying to think of some of done Lego, we've done. Stop me when I'm getting ready. I'll say it again. So name a company that through their history, through their history, really shouldn't be messing up the opening of a new venture. Because maybe this company who is very successful,

very well known for many things, but one of the things they do, have failed in the opening of their ventures in the past. Oh, OK. This is talking back to a Matt Stewart classic. Oh, really? It's a very early one. The first to go on, I Matt Stewart classic. Oh, really? The first to go on, I ever listened to. Oh.

Oh, we've talked about this before. Yeah. And then you're a big fan of theme parks. It's a Disney, it's Disneyland. Well, so many good job. Oh, and there's the biggest theme park lover I know. I'm a bit of a, like, like all men, I've taken something I enjoy and I've turned it into facts that

I can say to people until they hate me. I do, I love theme parks, I really love theme parks and it was one of those great moments where I realized that how good your podcast is because you then can have lots of, like, any freak you meet, any nerd you meet, you can be like, oh yeah, I know a little bit about your thing. I did an episode about it once and we had a moment. So you talked many years ago about the opening of Disneyland. Yes. And today I'm going to be talking, can I say now?

Yeah, of course, yes. I think God. The mystery remains for the entire episode. The list has never found out. I'm going to be talking about largely the opening, but also just a bit of the history of Disney California Adventure, which is the theme park directly across from Disneyland. Oh, right. This is a sequel that opened in 2001.

Oh, cool. Yeah, certainly. I don't think I've ever heard of it. No. No, you probably haven't. All right, this is a sequel that opened in 2001. Oh cool. Yeah, so I don't think I've ever heard of it. No, no, you probably haven't. Unless you've been there. And then they're like, what's that? And someone says, that's the other part. Sadly, Jess and I both visited in 1998 on separate family trips.

So we missed it a few years. Wow, that was a car park then. Wow, we probably used it. We stayed in a motel opposite Disneyland, and there was an eye hop that shared a car park with our motel. Wow. It's a big trip.

What a cultured trip that was. I need to say, though, I am such a freak with the, like, such a nerd with theme parks, that everything you've said, there's been about 12 facts per sentence that I want to go and say. So you need to just stop. You need to keep me on track. Should I just jump in? Yeah, sure.

All right, it sounds great. Disney California Adventure, or DCA for short, or Disney California Adventure Park for long. All right. Is one of the 12 Disney theme parks around the world, and was the second part built at the Disneyland Resort, the site of the original Disneyland Park in Anaheim, open in February of 2001, in an area that originally housed the Disneyland Car Park.

The 72 Aka Park is themed after the history and culture of the state of California, located in California, and an owl is derived from tourist attractions like Hollywood and Santa Monica Pier. The park has a number of different California themed lands of oaking iconic locations like Hollywood and the Santa Monica Pier. When you go to the real one, in less than an hour, literally an hour, it's a very special place. That is, because when you go to Las Vegas

and they have the Venetian, which is the Venice scene, oh, that's a long, that's a big trip. It's a phenomenal place. They've since, like, plastered up, which I'll talk to a phenomenal place. They've since like, plused it up, which I'll talk to a little bit. But yeah, it's literally like a Las Vegas theme to casino in Las Vegas. Yes.

DCA for some reason was not a success when it first opened. And today we're going to investigate why. Ooh. That's fun. That's fine. That's great. Yeah, so this is after what had passed on. I thought it's sort of like, you know, Apple products

since the Apple build gets very nice. Yeah, this is literally the iPad of theme parks. It's just like, oh, I don't think that's what he wanted. Are we short? Did he write anything down specifically? Okay, good. It's pretty close like this. Before we launch into the story, I think some context and key terms might help. A lot of people think that Disney theme parks around the world are directly themed to the brand of Disney in the way that Warner Bros. and Movie World on the Gold Coast or Universal

Studios is. While this is largely true now, that wasn't always the case. The first Disney Land in Anaheim, as you would know if you've listened to Matt's episode, was more the singular vision of Walt Disney himself. He did use various characters and films for ride themes and meet and greets, but the majority of the park was its own experience, taking you to the future in tomorrow land, the Wild West in Frontierland, vague orielentis blend of Africa, Southeast Asia and the Middle East in Adventureland. The idea was that a lot of people have, the

idea that a lot of people have of the idea that a lot of people have of a bunch of theme parks with a castle in the middle and then a lot of Disney princesses and rides is only half the story. For example, Walt Disney World in Florida has four theme parks on its property all with different themes and layouts. Oh.

This is, I'm holding back here. Wait, so what's wrong with that? That was the Florida. So that's the Florida Disney World, is it? Yes, yes. Orlando, there's an Orlando on as well, isn't it? So no, Orlando, Florida. And this is where I always come unstuck.

And this is really where I came unstuck. I was like, as I was writing this report, I was sort of hit for about an hour of like, I need to remember, I'm the big note about this stuff, that the people listening are going to ask that very question of what's the difference between Disney Land and Disney World. That's where I've got to start from. That's always confused me.

I do remember that Orlando's one. California's the classic one, which is like in, yeah, outside of LA somewhere. It's about an hour out of LA is Disney land. Yeah That's Anaheim and that's in Anaheim yeah an hour out of California and that's near the studio That's how you think of it and then Basically what happened was everyone was like we need one on the east coast We need one on the east coast so they made Walt Disney World on the on the east coast and the way to remember That is it's bigger,

world is bigger than land. Also, also, when Walt Disney died, they named it Walt Disney World, as opposed to Disneyland, so Walt World. Yeah, right, nice. Also, you can just not be a nerd. be a nerd. One way will not be. We decline. The parks are created, designed and constructed by Walt Disney Imagineering, which is the research and development of the Walt Disney Company. Yeah, I told you I go deep. Originally known as Wed Enterprise from the initials Walter Elias Disney, the arm was renamed to reflect the employees who were originally known as Imagineers, Port Mendo of engineer and imagination. Oh, if that's fantastic.

I like that. But before that, there was no known as wet industry, wet. Wed. Wed. Wed. But I also had wet, and I now thinking that it sounded like a porn. Yeah.

I can't imagine a group of engineers that design Snow White rides is the sort of pornography I want to watch. I think you. Well, everyone's got their niche, so. The Imagineease is a great job title. Isn't it? I'd love to drop that in a party. Yeah, I'm not sure if it's awesome or awful.

It's a bit about it. Somewhere in the middle there. The problem I think is that because anyone that works there is an Imagineer. So there are Imagineers. So it sounds so whimsical. When I hear Imagineer, I imagine someone who just designs these, like, but like the people in charge of land acquisition are

Imagineers. Like the people in charge of like crowd control. It's less fun. Yeah, it's a little bit I remember I met an Imagineer one so I was like oh my god. Oh, this is the coolest thing ever. And yeah, I think he was like like in finance or something. He's in sanitation. You're like, look, that is important, but it's less fun. It sounds mystical and magical, but you need to remember

half of the word is engineer. So it's a good point. This is overseen by a subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company, Disney Parks Experience and Products Inc, formally known as Walt Disney Parks and Resorts Worldwide. Now, the reason why that's relevant is they are the suits. Oh, yep. The Imagineers, wonderful, beautiful, blue sky. Those guys, nah, boo. Take down the suits, yeah. Yeah, boo. Okay, so where does the story of DCA begin? If you're an effective storyteller that is able to reduce stories down for a first-time

listener, probably around the mid-90s, but if you're a big nerd like me, then the story begins on December 15, 1966. You know, 1966, that's the year that my football team, the Saints, won't only promise it. Sorry about that guy. Sorry about that guy. Sorry about that guy. Sorry about that guy. Are you seriously apologizing to a man who's making you listen to...

Oh, I'm not a man. This is my payback. This I grew up in a rural town. So I heard a lot about football and I had to smile politely at night. All you wanted to do was talk about magical lands. That's it. This is now, I make people listen to me talk about the same level of boring. We did a bonus episode recently where Jess told us about a smaller theme park and a new

jersey called Adventureland. Have you heard of that? Oh yeah, yeah, Adventurelands. That's the one. Action park. Action park. Action park. Action park. What did I say? Adventure land.

What the fuck is that? Well, I just said adventure land. It's a part of Disneyland. Oh, that's what I'm saying. It's actually like, yeah, I know adventure land. But no, action park is amazing. It's a phenomenal story. Just the complete lack of anything.

Anything. People died in action land, didn't they? Because they didn't have imaginties. Yes. That was a downfall. They had a lot of imagination. Yeah. And not enough of the endearing. Teenagers in in high up roles. Yeah. Don't teenagers in management positions. This is how I like insulted a single engineer. No, they didn't. No. It's when you're a big Disney nerd or like theme partner, specifically, you end up watching a lot of videos that are like, this, where they're basically like,

and then they designed the ride, which was lots of fun, and then it does this turn, and it's like, but then someone dies. I don't know. Right. And you watch it like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. I got into this because it brings me joy. And you're watching it like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, that was 55. It's 55, wow. They buy the land for the car park or something like that. No, no, they already had the land to the car park. Well, I'll

tell you, exactly what I just criticized. That was the date that American entrepreneur, visionary and union buster Walt Disney passed away at the age of 65. He died in 66, wow. Yeah, he died not long after. He was planning Walt Disney World, which I would say is a very good episode. The original Epcot is a very good episode for you guys. He was planning it, but then he passed away. Right. Yeah, I also mentioned Union Buster as a bit of a gag. He had some bad parts.

So, what the Epcot? So Epcot is and this is the problem here and this is why this podcast is going to go for five hours and I'm so sorry. Epcot is it currently is the second park at Walt Disney World. So there's four theme parks there. But originally what it was going to be was he wanted to build an entire city with people that lived there, people that worked there and it was going to be like a model city, like the idea that you would come, look at the city and see the potential for what humanity could be. And then he passed away and apparently that day someone came into the office of his brother and said, so what are we doing about Epcot? And his brother said, well, it's dead.

We're making a theme park. We're doing a theme park. It was a great idea. It was a really cool idea. It was only he could do it. Epcot. Epcot, experimental prototype. Community of tomorrow.

Oh, wow. Well done, sir. Thank you. You're a good job. And it's very nice. So why not have the thing that looks at the giant golf ball, right? So now it does. Yeah.

So in the 80s, they were like, all right, let's have a crack at Epcot. But the problem is with someone like Walt Disney, you've got to remember like when he made an animated film, no one except for some randoms in Europe had made a feature made an animated film, no one except for some randoms in Europe had made a feature-length animated film. When he made a theme park, theme park didn't exist.

He had ideas and he pushed into new, like he was a visionary. It was the true imagineer. Yes, yes. Wow. The true imagineer. He was a Steve Jobs. He was that kind of guy. Yeah. Steve Jobs. He was that kind of guy. Steve Jobs.

Thank you. We're doing well today, aren't we? Or as Matt knows him, the Apple Bill Gates guy. The Apple Bill Gates guy. But he had the vision. And it basically was just one of those things where he was always pushing what Disney was. When he wanted to do a theme park, everyone was like, we're an animation company. And now you couldn't imagine a Disney that doesn't do theme parks. So he had stayed around for another 10 years, who knows, maybe Disney would be, we would,

when we think of Disney, we would think of cartoons, theme parks, and futuristic cities, maybe. But we never know. And I think it was probably smart of them to know until they throw a man Actually, that's not true I'm so glad you did all of the gonna have to otherwise the society twice Actually, that's actually actually Any final joy you have around this concept. I'm going to throw some facts at you So like Apple after it the company fell into the trap that many do after the death of their visionary leaders a

combination of nepotism and inertia after a decade of little innovation and forward thinking the Walt Disney company was in trouble After a decade of little innovation and forward thinking, the Walt Disney company was in trouble. After a corporate takeover attempt in the early 80s that would have absolutely decimated the company, shareholders Sid Bass and Roy E. Disney, so Disney's brother, brought in Michael Eisner, a CEO and chairman, and former Warner Brothers chief Frank Wells as president, to replace Ron W. Miller in 1984 and strengthen the company. Eisner was exactly what the company needed. A former executive at Paramount, he had vision and drive and would engage creatively in a way CEO's

hadn't in years. As a little aside, a little side thing, they got trapped in, there was a phrase that they would say in the offices, which was what would Walt do. And they got trapped by that. They became completely trapped by this idea of what would Walt do. Because what happened was they would go what would Walt do. And what they landed on was things he had done in the 40s, 30s, 50s. Yeah. And what what would have done was always push forward.

But that was change. Let's make Cinderella again. Yeah. No, that's make Cinderella again. Yeah. No, I've done that nine times. Cinderella too. What would do now is do a corporate takeover. It should become a multinational conglomerate with no soul. So they were doing what did do? Not what would do.

Would do. That's very good. Yes. Yep. Well said. Well said. I'm really struggling with being the straight guy. Normally I'm the one that freaks these down, but I'm like, no, back to the report.

Go get back to that report. All right, so, Eisner oversaw what was known as the Disney Renaissance or the Disney decade. Our generation would know it for its films, the Little Mermaid, Lion King, Tarzan, Mulan, et cetera, et cetera. But he also drove a revitalization of the parks. The idea of stepping into the movies was introduced. Through deals with George Lucas,

he pushed the creation of several iconic rides. He also introduced a third and eventually a fourth park to Walt Disney World and started plans on Euro Disney and hours drive from Paris. Under Eisenhower's tenure through the addition of the two theme parks and other water park multiple hotels and a revitalized shopping and dining district known as Downtown Disney. That's what I go to Disneyland for the shopping. I go to the food court. Yeah, it's the best food court. That's the best Chinese I've ever had. Yeah, chats in the fashion capital can suck a fuck in my eyes. It's Disneyland or bust for me. I can imagine it would be it'd be pretty brutal being visiting like the

officers of Disney the way they talk like some of these terms would just be so hard to be around it all the time. Just imagine is and everything's sort of fluffy and bullshit. But also they just make it mine. Yeah. I said to downtown Disney very lunch. I have a suspicion though that that sort of stuff is very like it's either right at the end, someone puts it on in the marketing department or it's right at the start, it's the blue sky imagine is, I reckon the people in the parks and resorts are just like numbers, figures, spreadsheets, money, money, money. I reckon I think people imagine it to be like, oh, a magical place of joy and wonder.

And I reckon Bobbi is just like, nah, make me more money, please. You guys need to make me more money and do it however you wish. As long as there's more money. If it's magical and whimsical, if that gets is 0.1% more, then it's sick if not. Yeah, but they don't have spreadsheets and calculator. They call them whims of calculations. They call it, yeah, everything is a portmanteau with imaginations. Imagine ladders.

Imagine like it was that's it. Yes. Walt Disney World went from a one or two day expedition on your trip to Florida to a multi-day experience. Walt Disney World became the destination itself. With people spending their entire trip inside the gates, they even introduced Disney's magical express, a free bus service from Orlando Airport. So that was the thinking, it was like, let's turn this place into one. Yeah, this is your holiday, it's not a day on your holiday, it's this is it.

You come here for many, many, many, many days. You give us many, many dollars. Do you go away? They succeed from the United States, from the North and country. You get a passport. Here's a fun little fact. They kind of, not, not, not, but they are their own city, city like council. So they literally, council is, they have their own fire department, their own police department, they have people that live there who are on the payroll and essentially it's its own county.

That's nuts. Walt Disney World is its own, because it was going to be a city, because they were going to do that and they've just held onto it. So these Disney police. Disney police. Do they have big gloves, like Mickey Mouse hands? Yes, I believe so. Look, I don't know, but I'm going to assume yes.

Yes. I'm going to assume that they do, yes. Yeah, and so it means as well that in Walt Disney World, they have Orlando Universal down the road. Orlando Universal, if ever they build anything new, if ever they build anything tall, they have to check with the road. Orlando Universal, if ever they build anything new, if ever they build anything tall, they have to check with the council. Disneyland can just do it because they are the council. That's incredible. It's pretty full on. Yeah. It's pretty weird. It's a little

bit weird and maybe capitalism had already gone too far. It wasn't long before the top brass turned their attention to the original park, Disneyland in California. Research had shown that most attendees were only spending one day at the park. To most normal people, this is a reasonable amount of time to spend at the end of the month. But to people like me, and to Eisner and Co,

this was millions of dollars that weren't being spent in accommodation, dining, and multi-day tickets. But there was a problem. The Walt Disney company didn't own much land there. As it was Walt's first park, he underestimated the number of cheap motels, diners, convention centres, and I-hops that would pop up around the park. What's an I-hop? International House of Pancakes. Oh, right.

It doesn't sound like a pancake place. No. I shouldn't have as a clothing store. Oh, it's a... Yeah. Some reason. Well, I mean, I was eight, but I remember it sort of like a dine, a kind of layout. Right.

I like pancakes. Pancakes. International House of Pancakes. So it's pretty fancy. Oh, yeah. Do you remember when they changed? Maybe you don't. I was... I think I was there at the time, but they changed their name from IHOP to IHOP for a promotional period, just because they started doing burgers, so they're marketing team. Like, let's just call it the international house of burgers, and it was this fun little idea that they even changed

the signage on a couple of stores and changed their Twitter handle. And then for the next two weeks their poor social media team had to comment on every single tweet that was like, why aren't you doing pancakes anymore? It was just like just tweet out to Twitter. We are still doing our pancakes that you know and love us for. We are still doing our pancakes that you know in love is for Just a bit of fun To talk about our new Ranger burgers. Don't worry. We'll be back to our help soon enough Just like people of the worst

Hoping to cash in on the cool new concept unlike Disney World, where the company had bought parcels of land approximately twice the size of Manhattan. So, for context, that's why they have four theme parks. There's still just huge chunks of land and every other park is just big chunks of land because it's easier to just buy it straight away. Every inch of the land owned by the company was used by either Disney land or the adjacent car park and any attempts to buy property would immediately drive the price up because people would go, oh, Disney's buying, clearly they need my eye-hop too, so I'll just charge

them heaps. The decision was made to build the new park on the site of that said car park. The next challenge, what to build. In 1991, they announced their plans for Westcott. An incredible vision, it was a theme around a utopian vision of the future, similar to Epcot's sensor at Walt Disney World. And it was planned to be the first Disney theme park to contain hotels within the park, with various lands themed to different

countries, each would feature a hotel. It would need a significant land purchases and would cost something in the range of $3 billion. Wow. Which is a lot of money, but for a company like Disney, it's like pocket change. Or so we thought. Drama. No, they just went into some money problems. Unfortunately, Eisner's successes in the late 80s were starting to crack. And the Disney Renaissance was starting to look a lot more like the Disney Dark Ages. Hey guys, I'm really proud of that.

Thank you. Thank you. A number of high profile failures, such as Euro Disney, and announcements and then retractions of such concepts as Port Disney and Disney's America to name a few, meant that Disney was in big financial trouble. Oh, was Euro Disney a failure? Initially, yes. I was very close to talking about that, because it was so similar in its failings to Walt,

that's a Disneyland. Oh, right. There's like a real synergy in that they finished it, and it was beautiful, it was like perfect, because they were like, well, far out, where in Europe, you know, in America, a fake palace castle in the middle of your theme park is kind of cool, but you can see the real,

not true down up the road. So they went all in, they spent heaps of money, they made it really, really beautiful. And everyone in Europe was like, fuck, fuck you. They picked Paris, like they picked France, like the French are not famously welcoming of American culture. So, like we're just gonna take up

a really big bit of your life. Like England would have been like, bring it in, we love it. But like they were really mad. And even just down to in terms of cultural, like cultural imperialism, Euro Disney was a name devised by the Americans. Euro in Europe is just like finance.

It's the Euro, it's just a financial term. Money world, it's literally like, come on down. When you place dollar Disney. Come and spend your money and make us back at the rich. Yeah, right. So they just didn't work. And it's quite famously, it was really beautiful. It's starting to get run down. It's kind of famously the least impressive park after Hong Kong and DCA.

They're fun. I've been to the Paris one, but I don't remember thinking it was a bit shit. Maybe it's because I felt quite sick after going on space mountain even though my tummy doesn't like rides. Oh, I see. I did it. I like, I like, I like, I would love it. That's the biggest problem with becoming a nerd about something is like you would know with your football.

You spend more time being mad at your team than you do just being like, yeah, I love this. It's like, I love this. Why are you shutting that ride down? And you've got to kind of check yourself and be like, oh, we're talking about a pretend ride place. I'm just going to keep up with all the names. So D.C.A. which one's that again? This is the main one. This is Disney California adventure. This is one across the road from the original. This is in California. Yes, I'm talking. Yeah.

Yeah. So DCI is Disney California adventure, which is what they're about to come up with. But at the moment, it's like car park land or something. It's, yeah, it's a place where you park your cars. Imagine that. Imagine. Imagine. Imagine.

What would have done? The park is car. Imagine. Imagine. Imagine. What would have done? Park is car. Park is car. He famously parked it so good. He was a good parker. The budget of three billion was dropped down to 600 million. Which sounds like a lot. There's a big drop. It's a big drop. And for context,

the recent Star Wars themed land Galaxy's Edge, which was just a land in Disneyland, cost over a billion dollars. Wow. Because you've got to think it's like there's safety precautions, it's theming. So 600 million is like a very, very small amount for an entire part. They did save a lot of money though by combining the imagination people and the engineers. Yes. But they downstate sort of halved their workforce. Yeah. They got rid of half their engineers and half their imaginators. And a little, it's a little tough because of COVID, because they have halved their workforce

in the last half months. So, ooh! Yeah, COVID would not be good for things like that. In parts. And one of my favorite tweets, I wish I could like credit this to someone that's probably bad to quote a tweet, you can't credit, but for someone going, I used to watch the Jurassic Park films and think that's absolutely ludicrous. Why would you keep opening the parks with people dying?

And then this happened to me. Because if I open Walt Disney World, they're like, just try to stay away from each other on the side. Just spread out in the lines, okay? I love the idea of people being like, I will not let the death of thousands get in the way of my going on space mountain. Like I love theme parks, but I'd like my Nana more.

So, um, so I- That's actually something I sound like you don't really love theme parks. I know. Is that the choice? Yeah. Yeah. It's theme parks on Nana. Yeah, from Nana. Good choice. Thank you so much. Does it agree? I was going to scrap the Westcott idea and took 30 of Disney's top executives for a three day retreat to Aspen, Colorado. There's a lot of coke done at this retreat. So much coke. I just love how, oh, shit, that's the idea of like, oh, magic wonder, 30 executives on a corporate retreat to Aspen, Colorado. At the end of that three day retreat, the idea

of a California themed park had been locked in. The most magical of all the states. How many ideas from the whiteboard before they got to that? Yeah, a lot. I imagine a great deal. We should have a Melbourne themed theme park in Melbourne, though. I think Luna Park is a little bit too broad. Yeah, I'd love to see a small reel too. Yes, and I'd love the scale. Like, their food court would be like a laneway. You know what I mean? That is fun. It's fun. It's literally like instead of Sovereign Hill in Ballarat. So Sovereign Hill,

as you've got international listeners, I should explain. Sovereign Hill is like a little outdoor museum that evokes the gold rush era of Ballarat, a city just out of Melbourne. It'll be like Ballarat Land, and it's Ballarat now. Yeah. Come to Ballarat, see a smaller version of Ballarat. That's true.

There's many reports about the blue sky meetings that happen on that retreat, but the main reasoning that is given is that Surface found that tourists that came for one day were then spending many other days seeing attractions in California. How dare they! The thinking was to give them those attractions in one part It's the most like corporate logic. It's like we're gonna lock the imaginies out and we're gonna we're gonna make this decision How good is it? I keep going on these one day trips where I fly over the Grand Canyon. What do we have a smaller Grand Canyon. But what do we have a smaller Grand Canyon? Essentially, it's a whole. Yeah, not that big admittedly.

Yeah. I remember the first time I went to Disneyland, in Disneyland, from the 60s, they have a New Orleans square. I don't know if you remember that for when you were eight, but you probably don't, because you're not a new, like me. But they have a New all in square and I remember thinking that was so funny when I was there. I was there for the first time. I thought, isn't that funny that like in the 60s, the idea of a theme park is to take you to other places.

And in the 60s, it was exciting to go, this is what's on the other side of America. Because most people didn't go there. And I thought that was funny, because I thought that would be like having a little Perth square at Luna Park, you know? Like that was funny to me, and I love that 30 years later, they thought, let's just do what you're in, but smaller. Yeah. It's amazing. That's nuts.

It's literally the stupidest thing. And I love it and I hate it. It's just, you know, you get so far up your own asses, like in Beesda or whatever, you forget that like, like consumers are just like you, they think like you. Yes, the consumer will want this. It's like, do you want this? Do you go to that? God knows. It was a good idea in theory and Disney was pumped. On January 14, a Los Angeles time, the Los Angeles Times published an article titled, The Most Jam Pact Theme Park

on Earth Question Mark. And here's the quote, senior Disney officials acknowledged that there will be days when California Adventure will have to turn patrons away, particularly in the first weeks after the park opens. Obviously they had learnt their lessons from opening day of Disney Land where it was so swamped, they had, I'm assuming you remember this report you did five years ago. I remember pretty well.

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That's the paint the grass green in certain areas. There's just like apparently tomorrow land was just like an exhibition for Monsanto. That's it. They did have weeds that were growing. They put little fences around and put Latin names to make it look like they were there on purpose. Amazing. Yeah. Amazing.

There's a ride now in Disneyland that's a mountain. It's a fake mountain. It's called the Madahorn Bob Sleds. And before that was, before it was that, it was just a hill. And they were like, it's a hill. Yeah. Woo! That hill was just what they dug up to make a pond next.

That's what I was like, oh! This is what we got from Grand Canyon, isn't it? So because of that, every opening sense is famous that they've overestimated. They thought Disney, Paris Disneyland, they're like, stay back, don't come. Yeah, just star wars, man. But I don't want you. They locked out like, past holders, they're like, don't come, it's going to be busy. And now every single opening in Disney's history since then has been,

oh, there's only like five people here. So, you know, exactly you one of those five people. No, do you know, no, no. I'm a big, like, I'm a big nerd for this stuff, but I like to wait until it's settled. And also, I like the magic of going to these places. So I used to think, if I ever lived in LA, I would go every weekend. And then I did, I lived there for like six months

for the Netflix show, and about able now now on Netflix. Or possibly in seven hours. I haven't been talking for about seven hours, I think. So I should be getting to it. But I only went, I went for three days, Michael Eisner's dream was achieved. I went for three days, I went on another, like on a work trip,

funnily enough, That's a whole other story But I didn't go lots and lots and lots because then it becomes like a shopping mall then it loses its magic Yeah, so I actually don't go that regularly Is it it's like I was was it the Simpsons that had like a it's new years eve every 10 minutes or something? Yeah, every 15 so it loses it its specialness if you do it that often. That's probably based on Disney Springs. No, Disney Springs or Downtown Disney, whatever it was called then, did New Year's Eve every night under the ice in the year.

Oh, I wish I was dead. Yeah. Executives and Imagineers were so confident of DCA success is dead. Exactly. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. We've been up Disney Land a bit. That were like, they were already making plans. Oh, that's so... It's going to take away from Disneyland. We're actually going to ruin our other business. No, you've ruined both, because now we're the fuck to people park.

Yeah. Did they think of that? Yeah, I think it was. Some of that didn't really consider. We're going to be packed out, but people will walk from now on. We have built over the entire car park. No they've got a bus directly from Orlando Airport. It's a cross-stabmarine now. It's a good park at the airport. It is very funny now like the car parks there are too far away.

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your trial today at Noom.com. That's n-o-o-m.com to sign up for your trial today. Hey, and good news guys, we're getting into rough dot point territory now. So the park opened in early 2001 and let me talk you through some of what it was. The park's entrance was a three-dimensional representation of a picture postcard of California. California. California. You walked past giant letters spelling California alongside a large ceramic mural representing California stuff. You walked under a dodgy fake golden-great bridge

before revealing a large, tacky golden statue representing the sun. Well, Disney, imagine you. One of California's biggest landmobuks. I'm people love the sun. Is it, are they the sun shone state or something? They, I believe they are and it is very sunny. The issue with a big statue of the sun is there is also the real sun when you're in a thing fire.

So, you know, that's kind of the thing. We can get that for free just to head down the road. Walt Disney, imagine a Kevin Rafferty described it as something that frankly you could have seen that at a shopping mall in Newport Beach. It's like, why is that here? That was very bitter. The park was not successful for a number of reasons, and a lot of people have analyzed

why since. I've just made a little list of them. I didn't want to do the whole thing because I was getting a little over, over, over, Zalus. The California theme, obviously. On opening day of Disneyland, Walt Red, an opening dedication that featured the words, here age relives fond memories of the past, and here youth may save the challenge and promise of the future. The vision for these parks was to literally transport guests to different times and places and this park was re-creating things down the road.

On top of this is significant proportion of guests, locals and pass holders. Unlike Walt Disney World, Disneyland was and still is largely a local park. So just for context, I'll come back to when I lived in LA. I was living in Hollywood. I was living around the corner from the Chinese theatre from like Hollywood Boulevard. And you know, you stress sometimes you're living there, that's where you buy groceries, I then went to Disneyland as like a weekend away escape. And they have a recreation of Hollywood Boulevard. They have your supermarket there. Why is there not a... Same people working there.

It's literally insane. The other reason is 9-11. that stopped international travel out in the way. Oh, yeah. So what, what, once was it opening? It opened in February. Yeah, okay, yeah. It's had a little run. That a little run. And a pre-9-11 world.

And then, then everything changed. And then everything changed. International travel went out the window, domestic travel went out the window. It was at the time one of the three times Disneyland had closed. It was immediately after 9.11, though, like this might be a target. Let's shut it down, work it out. So it's shut for I think two days after that. Wow. Which at the time it was then going to shut down then when JFK died and there was one

other, like after a earthquake. And now it's been closed for like six months. Yeah, wow. But at the time, that was one of the few reasons that had shut down. Number three is a lack of a berm. Now, according to www.info.com, the berm is a dirt wall that surrounds many Disney parks, particularly castle parks such as the Magic Kingdom or Disneyland, with the goal of visually separating the outside world from the one of fantasy and adventure within.

This is seemingly very niche, but when there is literally a suburb and IHOPs just outside, it's actually subconsciously very important. On multiple attractions at Disney California Adventure, nearby hotels, power lines, radio towers, and the Anaheim Convention Center are all visible to guests, reducing the sense of immersion. The other reason is just like the lack of Disney magic. There's an ad that you can watch for when it opened and it's Woody and Buzz looking at Disney California adventure and the princess, they're like,

what is this new place? And in it, they're saying they the princess, they're like, what is this new place? And in it, they're saying they're rides, they're like, yeah, and then in it, the princess are saying they're princes and they're like, no. No. No. No, just it's weird. Number five. Who's the script of that? No. No, it goes, no, but. Who's crypto that? No.

No, it goes, no, but there is a big grizzly bear. It's like, well, that's not as good as a person. It's for everyone. Number five, the head of the park's poll press law, who by all accounts, was a corporate stooge, relied on merchandising and retail staff, instead of imaginaries, to design the bulk of the park. This led to the park having a serious lack of

rides compared to retail experiences. And a lot of the rides that were there were off the shelf. Some of the attractions were soren over California. That was the one unquestionable hit of the park. It's a motion flight simulator that employs a mechanical lift system, a projection, artificial sense, and wind to simulate hang gliding over the best sites

of California, which is a thrilling experience. Superstar Limbo, which is a slow limo drive through California through Los Angeles, is. You can just get a little limbo ride the best part is of that I Great this is the best one because the line was a recreation of LAX So the idea of the stories you land in LAX and then you go on a oh my god on the Simpson's they parody Theme parks and they have the line simulator. That is basically what they're doing there.

Literally, the airport line simulator. LAX for anyone who's been there is the worst airport in the world. The idea that in a theme park, they're recreating the worst theme park in the world. The worst place, the airport in the world. And then what happens then is you then get into a limo and ride around and this celebrity audio animatronics of such early 2000 celebrities as Drew Carey,

what big goalberg, the host of who wants to be a millionaire. And originally it was... And he was like, I'm not kidding, I'm not kidding. I imagine that. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. And he's just saying some crooks here. Yeah. And originally it was going to be like a high speed thing to get to a premiere, but they were designing the ride in 1998. They were pretty close to finishing high speed limousine in 1998.

Yeah. And so Stoyana died in a crash from that. So then their alternative rather than scrapping the ride was to just make it a slow ride. I do remember in 97 when Diana died, everything changed. Everything changed. Everything changed. This is the two biggest moments.

I love that the two biggest, most traumatic moments in sort of that period in history Negatively affected a theme park in California and that's like why that's the context I'm giving it My personal favorite the sourdough tour. Oh my god I was just gonna throw that Would you like to hear about the sale? Yes, sir. So, I was too aware when I talked to you about the sale of dough and how they make sale of dough and the history of sale of dough. Then at the end you could have some sale of dough. This is not what I picture a Disney park to be like.

No, no, you could argue that it's a bit shit. The best part is it's, I think Colin mockery or someone from that show, from the improv. Whose line? Whose line. And Rosie O'Donnell, I believe. Just video of them going, come on, let's teach you about sourdough cracking jokes. I mean, that does. It sounds like it could be all right, but it's not a Disney. No, no, and also it's not. It's not.

There's something about that that sounds kind of amazing. Well, you get a free slice of sourdough. Yeah, wow. You get to see the making the sourdough. I love bread. I love eating bread. I love a sourdough. Absolutely.

It feels like a lot of tension would be built up when they're talking about bread. I'm just like, man, I can't wait to eat something with bread. I love eating bread. I love a salto. Absolutely. It feels like a lot of tension would be built up when they're talking about bread. I'm just like, man, I can't wait to eat something with bread. Get to see some of the bread. Yeah. All the different stages of bread. I mean, you can make jokes, but that sounds like an excuse. It really is. It really is, I think, the clearest distillation of what happens when you get the retail and dining people

to create an attraction. Yeah. They have you walk through a kitchen and look at Salvador that you can then buy. A really bitter baker who's like, everyone eats the sourdough, but nobody asks how you make the sourdough. Or like when they were having those blue skies in Colorado, like one morning morning one of them just got a fresh hot slice of sourdough I just went this is it This is it this is it this is going in let's open let's pull back that curtain

I'm sorry have you ever been to Victoria's sort of Disneyland alternative Ned Kelly Light and Sound show in Glen Rowan No, you haven't been you got to get you love theme parks. I mean, it's, oh my goodness. It's smaller, but it's all, it's all animatronics. I love pre-recorded gunshots. And it was built like decades ago and it hasn't changed since. Wow. I love that. Yeah. if you ever drive Melbourne, Sydney, it's not too far off the path. That's amazing.

You really should drop into some of the favourites. Look, I really, then, it all fell apart here in my... I need to be full disclosure here. My piece, my written piece kind of fell apart at this point because I went into maybe a little too much detail up top, which we could argue as fair. This is it, we know this is all in your heart and in your mind already, just let it spew forth. Alright, fine.

Alright, then. We are fascinated. It did very, very badly. No, it did very, very badly, but they pretty much started getting to work straight away fixing the problems. It became one of those moments where $600 million is like a lot of money to spend, but... It's also not. It's also not. Yeah.

And if you spend $600 million on something, you... Or if you don't spend enough money, you're going to lose more money than if you spend the right amount of money, if that makes sense. You've got to spend money to make money. That's what it's all about. I've always said that, and people quote me on it. That's absolutely right, and you are very wealthy. You're such a filthy capo.

Oh yeah, proudly. You spend a lot of money in your time. I've spent too much money they shut down the super star limo ride pretty quickly turned it into a monster's in cry what drew carry I'm sorry I never got to see it in that broke my heart that's amazing yeah they just slowed it down and such a weird decision it feels like like a small you know like it doesn't feel like a big thing like this, they would make a decision like that.

It was gonna be fast. Just to it slow. But the limb, I get stuck in traffic. It's fun. It's weird. But it's still limos. It's a realistic experience. L.A. famous like a terrible traffic.

I can't believe I've never heard of this. Everything about it is so odd. It's very special. It's very, very special. It's the particularly the sourdough bread. Yeah. You learn about bread. Disneyland. Right, you'd be looking across the road. Kids have in the time of their life. We're in a battle of us.

Maybe like slowly plotting through with the Rosio Donald. Tell you about bread. What are we? I think that some people would only have one day to spend it either park and they go, oh, let's go to the new one. That's going to be the best thing. Oh, bang. And then you're right, Matt, you are seeing people on that new Tower of Terror or whatever it is because that's so tall.

You can see people going, yeah. What's your hands are like needing some salad on it? Oh, no, you didn't actually get to need the salad. You watched the end. Watch the watch Ryan's style. I'm like, oh my god. The other part that I also love was they had a part like the agriculture of California and they had just some tractors and that you could just sit on and apparently it's Wobby's world. It is Wobby's world, it's just Wobby's world.

When you get on the fake tram, even though you've caught the tram out there to go to Wobby's school. They're literally just tractors you can sit on. So they shut down Superstar Limbo, the drop tower that was planned for Disneyland, they ended up building in California. I'm trying to get anyone. How did they shoehorn it into the Californian thing? Well, because it was Hollywood, the Hollywood Tower of Terror,

right, was the original thing. They were gonna make it a frontier drop tower, they made it the Hollywood Tower of Terror. Brilliant, that's brilliant. They're very smart. You just put a Hollywood at the front. You could do anything. He doesn't think, you let the Imagineers do what they smart. You just put a Hollywood at the front. You could do anything. He has the thing, you let the Imagineers do what they do.

You give them a few billion dollars, they're gonna deliver. Then Bob Iger became in charge. He took the place of CEO. And he described in an interview, he described it as a brand withdrawal. He basically said that anytime you don't commit to a brand, it's a brand withdrawal. He basically said that anytime you don't commit to a brand, it's a brand withdrawal. And he invested $1.1 billion in fixing the park.

So some of the things they did was they changed it from a caricature to more of a celebration. The Paradise Pier, which is the Santa Monica Pier recreation, they made it into an old fashion version of that. They got rid of the postcard entrance and changed it to a vision of Los Angeles when Walt Disney first arrived in 1937. So they tried to go back to that romantic idea of Disney's history.

They went from parody to pastiche. Like the golden age of Hollywood. And it's actually lovely when you go there now. That's what I'm sort of. Yeah, it sounds much nicer. Yes. Yeah. Still a little weird. Because you can see Hollywood up the road. Can I rather see this old tiny pier?

They did the Hollywood sign and all that as well. So they got rid of, they had stuff like that, they got rid of all of that. I think they might still have a bit of a Hollywood sign kind of thing, but it's mostly all gone. They added Carsland, which was the car park came back. I really like that. Carsland. Which you would think doesn't work, but it actually does work because Carsland is all about,

or Cars and movies, all about Route 66, which Ann was at Santa Monica Pier, so it connects to Paradise Pier. They then changed Paradise Pier to Pixar Pier, which works a little bit less well They changed then Hollywood Tower of Terror to mission break out The Marvel boys in space also doesn't quite work as well And to conclude so they should they've slowly just backed away from the California. So what happened is they leaned into the California. There's been this, that's almost like a graph, if you will, of like it was really bad.

And then it got more and more classy. And then they just like started adding more and more. But here's the thing, right. It was always a bit, eh? And like, it's a really fun ride. You go on the ride and then who's the space marvel people? Guardians of the Galaxy? You're in the Guardians of the Galaxy. It's a lot of fun. And most people don't think that much. Most people don't go, this was in, why is this in Hollywood land? Yeah. Most people are like, oh yeah. Yeah, absolutely.

We're up there to do. They probably made it in Hollywood. Yeah. So quite, it's a Hollywood movie. I think they filmed it in the Lanter, but it kind of worked. It doesn't have the history, the detail, and the perfection of Disneyland. But a lot of people will tell you it's the better park, it has better food, the salad is. So the salad, I think, is still there? It has better rides and don't worry, it still has the salad until it.

That's the new bucket list goal for me to do the salad. Because it's going to go. And I think we are, this is an escape. I do escape is a me do escape is and we shouldn't talk too much about the state of the world. But the state of the world means that I don't think they're going to get to getting rid of the sourdough tour as quickly as they were going to. But it's still there and let me tell you, it's very special. So you've done the sourdough tour? Yeah, that was the first thing I did. Yeah. So I'd been to Disneyland a couple of times,

but I'd only ever been there for a day. So when I went to California Adventure Park, I was so excited about this notion, and you go there and they give you a little free piece of sour dough. It's not even a slice. It's like a tiny little, tiny little piece. Oh, this is one of the weirdest things ever.

I love that that didn't get rid of it. Like, Bob Iga came in and he was like, all right, we got to change this out. We got to make this better. We got to like really get the best, it has the best rides now. Soren is one of the best rides. It's incredible.

The mission breakout is so much fun. And Credit Coast though, which was originally California Screamin' Really great, right? That is a pun. Okay California Screamin' and in credit coaster. Yeah, cuz it's a yeah, I mean because it's not the same word as Dreamin It's just it's changed the word but it's a pun is cuz it rhymes. It's the sound alike You sound alike thing. That's why I'm getting close to all the time.

Thanks for teaching us. Thank you. Yeah, thank you, Zach. I'm thank you. You're welcome. Did you like California adventure land? Yeah. Yeah.

I want to go. I'll go there before I go to the old one. Yeah, I wouldn't recommend. No, no, no, still go out original. I was legit about to ask if you got one day, which one would you say is better? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not there for the history per se, but you do feel it. It's got like a, the reason I fell in love with it when I went, because a lot of people assume I must have gone as a kid, and that's why I'm obsessed.

I went like five years ago. And, I love this. And the reason I became obsessed with it was because I remember, I remember I was on a like a work trip, and the people were like, like I call it a work trip, but I was on a like a work trip and the people were like like I call it a work trip was I was there with Google and YouTube and I was like oh you've got a free day. Let's go to a theme park.

We've got we can either go to Universal or we can go to Disney and I was like oh Disney that's Kitty that's like I'd rather go to Universal. I got outvoted and we ended up going and you go there to Disneyland and the entrance has got nothing to do with Disney. It's like a train station and then you step in and the main entrance has nothing to do with Disney. It's like a recreation of Disney's childhood town. It's called Main Street USA. There's a castle at the end. There's all these things that have nothing to do with the corporate brand and you go, oh, this is a creative project. This is a single person's creative venture. And then it's been added on, it's been plus, there's better rides have been put in. You can now go to Star Wars and do all the fun stuff.

Like, IZNDA did a lot of really cool stuff, but there's something to the creative vision of the place that is underrated, I think. So I would say go to Disneyland. Okay. We'll have to drag away from the sourdough experience. Yeah. Hopefully just a two days. Yeah. We just have to make sure we have two days. Because we're not missing out on sourdough. Yeah.

Because you've got to go to the same old experience. I need to see some classic California sites without leaving Disney. Yeah. That's what I want. It's very funny. That's great. It's very, very funny.

And it's one of those things. I think most people that go now are like, oh, that one has all the best rides. It's got better food. It's all right. Disney lands kind of like cute and fun too. Like it's, people don't, but when you know the history, it's something so funny about it.

Like they've done so much good work. It's a good theme park now. It's worth the like, $100 and something dollars it costs to go. It really is worth it. Yeah. But deep down is just the shitdest idea, but it's ever come out of corporate America. And that's why I love Disney's California

adventure. How many of you been, so you said there's eight, is it? There's 12. 12. Oh, this is, I'm like, I really am a, I love this shit. So there's 12 parks, but there's there's there's there's less resorts. So there's two parks at Disneyland Resort, so Disneyland, California, adventure. Walt Disney Land, no world, there's Magic Kingdom, which is kind of very similar to Disneyland. There is Epcot, which we talked about, which is sort of like not the city. It's a kind of world showcase, future world kind of thing, very 80s, which I've not been to. Animal Kingdom, which is like halfway between a zoo and a theme park,

but plus there's Avatar length there now. Okay. Because you know, more like... Oh, that's come here. The new Avatar movies are coming, so I'll just do it. The Sixth War Avatar, or something.

Yeah, there's a whole bunch of Avatar films made. Yeah, they've made. Founded them all in one go, and there's a lot of current movie for Sixth, but there's like a bunch of sequels and they were all being made at the same time. Wow. Yeah, it's interesting,

because everyone's forgotten about it. Yeah. But it was huge at the time. What's the highest-moving movie of all time? Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's everyone's forgotten about it. Yeah. But it was huge at the time. The highest-grossing movie of all time, yeah. Yeah, it's, it's a lot of stuff. But crazy to go. Well, obviously, people will want six sequels. Yeah, it's just very constant.

Start with one and see how it goes. I was, I'm a big believer, because I had my doubts, but I'm like, all right, James Cameron has always been on the money. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? But little Disney connection,

Jeffrey Katzemberg, who was the head of the like Yeah. But little Disney connection, Jeffrey Katzenberg, who was the head of the like, film studio at Disney, during the Disney decade, left and created Dreamworks, has never gotten it wrong. So all the Disney movies you love was Jeffrey Katzenberg. Then he left and made Shrek. Disney went downhill, he made Shrek, he made Dreamworks.

Oh, damn. And that was great. So everyone, so it's like this guy knew what was up and then he had an idea a few years ago, a new streaming service and everyone was like, sounds kind of naff, but he's never been wrong and that streaming service was a streaming service named Quibi. I don't know if you guys know anything about Quibi.

The Quibi, when was it, we were out for about three months, it cost them $1.7 billion they raised. And it's called a short for quick bites and you could watch things both vertically and horizontally. And it was very, very bad. They did a lot of bad stuff and it was terrible. And that makes me think that maybe James Cameron doesn't know what he's doing and the Avatar sequels are going to suck as bad as a first-hand bitch. Nearly everyone, the hot streak ends at some point. Pasty. Yeah.

Yeah. And like, I don't know, about Avatar 2. What about 3, 4, 5? What do you think of those? Or 6? 6, 7, 8, 9. But I will say they released a behind the scenes picture because there's a lot of underwater stuff forever tattooed. Where did it, so where was Avatar land? Did you say? That's in animal kingdom. Sorry, I should get back to what is already a diversion

from the presentation I finished. So there's animal kingdom and then there is a place called Hollywood Studios, which is very, has like, links to... It was basically because Orlando Universal Studios was gonna open, so they just bet them to it. And in Paris, they have Euro Disney, which was now, it's called Disneyland Paris,

which is very, very beautiful, but a little run down apparently, I've not been... Did that turn into a success after its tough start? I think they kind of got it rolling. But what happened was they promised a second park, and then they lost a lot of money there. They lost a lot of money at Disney California Adventure. So then they opened a Hollywood Studios themed park there,

which is apparently just very bad. Like it's just like three airport hangers with some stuff. Oh. And then Hong Kong Disneyland, again, they didn't have money because of the things I've just mentioned. Also not great. Shanghai Disneyland, which is apparently great.

I've been to Hong Kong. I've been to California. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's cool. Is it've been to California. Cool. Yeah. Yeah. I guess it's cool. Is it a bucket list for you to say them all? Yeah, that's it.

I think I'm, you know, funny on Shanghai, because you know, it's like co-owned by the mainland Chinese government and there are a bit of crook, aren't I? Are you gonna, okay, he brought your politics here. I thought I told you to check that at the door. I'm sorry. You haven't got the cap on. Here we let it go. But yeah, that's my little love letter to Disney California adventure.

Great. Fantastic report. Thank you so much. Yeah, well done. Do you feel, okay, generally people will finish and then we'll stop recording and they'll say, was that okay? That felt terrible. And we have to tell them that we all feel that.

We sat to each other. Every time. Yeah, we still feel that. Yeah, we still know, was that okay? And the others go, yes. Yeah. So. We want to tell you before just to,

in case there's any doubt, it was terrible. It was really bad. Absolutely. Well, here's what happened is I wrote a lot of detail and then I got to dot points about halfway through, but I think I really picked it back up at the end. Oh, that's sourdough to her. We love, yeah, that's so everything. Honestly, all the other reason we knew there were dot points, because you mentioned it a

lot. Yeah, otherwise, we would have even noticed what I should have done is bluffed. Yes. You just knew you know you knew your shit. It's in your soul. I can feel it. What's your pick of the Australian ones? Like which are basically all in Queensland, aren't they? Yeah, well in all seriousness I'm very excited for all the borders to open because I'm keen to go back. And I haven't been in so long that I couldn't say, I'm sure they're all not great by comparison. Probably Warner Brothers Movie World.

It's a fun fact about Warner Brothers Movie World. They hired when they built the first part of it, they hired someone who was involved in the hub and spoke design of the original Disneyland. So it was one of his last projects. So there's a little bit of Disney, of movie world that has that Disneyland sort of... The magic.

But from photos that I've seen, it's gone a little. Yeah, I went, I went to all for the year that California World War Open in 2001. Oh, okay, great. And yeah, as I was, you know, I was in school and it was exciting. I've never, I've never been to any of the real, like, the proper American ones. So I don't know how to compare it. And they were all pretty, starting. But I think I remember ranking up at the time. Dream World was the best. Then Wetten Wild, then Movie World, then Sea World.

Here's my question to you. Do any of you remember the Gremlins ride at Movie World? No, there's a video online about it. And it's really very funny. It's a very funny, very weird ride. Because movie world, the whole thing was you're at the movies, you experience the movies. They're like, how do we do a movie? How do we do a ride about Gremlins, which everybody loves at the early 90s, but also go with this behind the scenes, DVD extras don't exist yet, theme. And they went, people went, the idea as you went and you're watching things,

like clips of movies and then the gremlins take over and then you go on the ride and the gremlins are there, but then also, Beetlejuice is there. And then the gremlins and Beetlejuice fight and then I think Beetlejuice wins. And then they'll be like, thanks Beetlejuice fight, and then I think Beetlejuice wins. And then they'll be like, thanks Beetlejuice, and that's the end of the ride. That's real weird.

It's a very, and then apparently when they re-created movie world in Germany, and they re-created that ride, but Beetlejuice wasn't as successful. So it's Alph. Oh my God. So this is the attention to detail. Disney has, or they lost for a moment, but that movie world has less of, which has its own charm.

I think speaking of Beetlejuice, what's the first time I'm just on Halloween just going? It was pretty good. But someone was saying, I was reading online that Tim Burns and other one who sort of seemed like to everyone as genius could do no wrong and then sort of fell off a cliff. I can't remember all the movie it was and there was a theory I read that as his hair, the style was deteriorated so was his films. I heard a theory about Tim Burton that was as the bigger his budget, the worse the film. Right. Which I think is pretty good. I can't happen, I think. Yeah.

Because yeah, you can do more stuff. People say about the Star Wars guy as well, right? Yeah. They're early films are better because they have to improvise. And what's interesting when I was doing my research for this was there's a clip in the Imagineering story, which is a series on Disney Plus, which is very funny, very good, but very funny if you know the full story

because there's a lot of like this wonderful thing, I'm like, I know that that sucked or washed out of things about it. But there's a clip of Michael Eisner saying, you know, I actually think, you know, a smaller budget can really like help creativity, like exactly that logic. And then I cut to a shot of just this giant orange ride that they had at C. California. It's like this is the man who led to the sourdough tour.

Sometimes you need the money. Yeah, sometimes you need the money. Love the sourdough, it's the best bit. Oh, it's so good. I can't wait to go do the sourdough ride. Well, that brings us to everyone's favourite section of the show, the Fat Quotal Questions section, which has a jingle I think is like this. Fat Quotal Question. Bing! You always remember the ding.

So, in this section, our Patreon supporters who go to patreon.com slash two gone pod. And if they're on the Sydney Shahnberg Deluxe Memorial Rest in Peace edition level. And I can only imagine if the great Sid Shahnberg created a theme park, it would probably be similar to what we talked about today. He is an ideas man. He is. Not great ideas, but a lot of them. He would have improved about the right. He is an ideas man. Not great ideas, but he would have improved with the sound of experience. He's the one we learn about him in the back

to the future episode where he wanted to rename it Space Man from Pluto. And he wanted a chimp. A chimp instead of a doll. I think he actually, I can't, I think maybe he was the one who made him change from a chpanzee with dog. Yeah, maybe. And he said there's never been a hip move with a chimpanzee. Yeah, that's it. Yeah. He had all his weird logics. And I mean, that one was fine.

The dog was fine. But yeah, they were like, Space Man from Pluto. Apparently Spielberg sent a message back saying, we got your memo very funny. We're having a great laugh about it. back saying, we got your memo very funny. We're having a great laugh about it. As if I'd play it like, so he'd be too embarrassed to actually fight for it. Space man from Pluto, was there any proposal?

He was to make it about Space Man. He was going to say there was a scene where when Marty arrives back in time, he's wearing this plutonium protection suit. And so he can't look like a space man. And they were going to, he said, we write in one other thing that'll connect it to it. And that's all it would have been. And how baffling that would have been for the public. Back to the future. What I love about that is there's those moments where now we see that's one of the greatest names. Like back to the future is... Great thing.

Like it's kind of probably why it was successful. The idea that there would have been a conversation around that really tickles me in a place of creativity. And I've been the guy voting against the things. You know? Yeah, you want to go to Universal World. But the idea of being the guy that was like back to the future. Yeah, I can go forward to the future Should I be about a spaceman from Pluto? I would have called it quibbles

So when people sign up on that level they can give us a factor quote or a question We read out a few each week. They also get get to give themselves a title. Our first one comes from Daniel Headley, given himself the title of resident, do go onologist. To go onologist? Yeah, that's probably it. Yeah. Do go onologist. Thank you. And Daniels asked the question here. What is, I have, and I don't read him until I read him,

Zach. That's great so that's great. That's good. So far, there hasn't been any particularly offensive that I've had to go, ooh. Thank goodness. So Daniel writes, there are only three countries in the world that don't use the metric system. Liberia, is that right?

Liberia, my son, that right? Yeah. Because you could also say Liberia, but it's Liberia. Yeah. Oh, because I'm thinking, anyway. Thinking Libya? I'm thinking Libya. Yeah, Liberia, Myanmar, and the United States.

Wow. Wow. That number might be down to 2018 Liberia, commerce, and industry minister Wilson Taipei, that the government plans to adopt the metric system in order to promote accountability and transparency in trade. Well, this is a question. I reckon that's a fact.

I said, yes, I copied and pasted this after googling most interesting facts, but hey, it's still interesting. That's pretty interesting. That's really, definitely a fact. Yes. Well, if it is a fact, I'm assuming it's a fact. Yes. That's my answer. Yes. Yes. Yes. I wanted to let you question market the end. My my answer is sour dough. Lock it in Eddie. Thank you so much, Daniel. Headly for that great question. Next

one comes from Dominic Stevenson, who's called himself the rector of Burton Coggles. I don't understand, but I love it. Dominic is offered a fact, which is H.C. in Pacific Ocean is pronounced differently. Wow. He wrote the wow. I agree. Pass. Pass. Pass. Pass. Pass. Pass. Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh and a lot of like the idea yesterday I did a lot of the in depth ones. I've been very like on for a really long time and I'm just loving to say, oh wow. Give me that fact. That's interesting. Okay, alright. Yeah, sit back in your lap. Yeah, enjoy.

This next one comes from main Galaga who's given themselves a title of theme, It's a back-and-roll act. Yeah, enjoy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, console edition. That was a question to this person. Oh, I'm engaging with that is coming out soon as a yes it is. Will it be on the Nintendo Switch for just an eye?

I have no idea. I know I have no idea. Thing is cross. I did a little bit of that game though. A lot of fun. Well, Maine. I'm saying Maine MA EN. Maine, Hurricane. Well, Maine, I'm saying Maine, MA, EN. Maine, I reckon. Maine. Maine. Maine writes, I'm planning post lockdown holidays. I'd like to come to Australia. Where would you recommend?

I like Kitch nonsense, like World's biggest whatever, and comedy and pubs. I do not like big spiders. I'm in the UK if that makes a difference. Oh, I've only had a Melbourne land or something like that. Yeah, God, that'd be good. Kitch, kitch, kitch. Because I love kitch. That's why I love the Disney land. Yeah. Each is like my number one.

I like teaky. Do you think the Ned Kelly, Lotton Sancho, would equal kitch? Do, like, it's pretty kids. Sovereign Hill's pretty fun. Oh yeah. Is that kid? And then the big things, the big banana. The big banana. The big banana, which is not big enough to warrant its big title, the big banana, which

is part of its channel. The big banana is the original, so I didn't have anything to scale against. Really? I learned that just recently. That's right. I'm listening to a Bill Bryson audio book where he travels around Australia. That's fantastic. He went to the Ned Kelly Lund sound show. I have to go to this. And he couldn't believe it was worth $15. Too high? Oh, rough. But he also really loved it. He's like it was worth

every dollar going in. Worth all $15. Well It's really going in this is because I'm guessing right is book in the 90s. Any the owner who would have also been running it and taking the money at the front, they said that's $45 for the straight of you. $45 is a good. And the audiobooks got the guy does this bad broad Australian accent when he does Australian characters. He guys, good. Mike, what Disneyland in there? Incredible.

There's apparently Dream World started as that it was going to be Australia's Disneyland. And like every single place, I was just like, oh, we could just put some rollercoasters here. It's like it's a lot easier to just put rollercoasters in there. Just spread out some rollercoasters. Yeah. So it's called the Ned Kelly story now. Oh.

And it is number 12 of 12 things to do in Glen Rowan all over the world. Wow. I'm not a big fan. Have you heard about the Titanic dining experience in? I don't know what's happening with it, but it was... And Williams Town, that one? Yes, yeah, apparently it's a three hour theater show in Williams Town, and the guy who created it

just loves Titanic. And you sit and eat like you're on the Titanic. Yeah, there's different classes. Is there really... You go first, second, and third class. Amazing. That sounds phenomenal. My favorite part is it actually works because people did sit and eat on the Titanic until the point that it starts sinking

because the idea of like, oh, dessert. I mean, you're finishing your dessert while the ship goes down is so funny to me. That's so funny. Does the water come up on their ankles or anything like that? Look, I don't know, but I'm going as soon as I can. I've not been to many theatre restaurant shows because I imagine I would love them, but I think they're a bit like back to Ihop

pancakes where they're great for the first bite and then you have to sit through it for three hours. Three hours, my goodness. Yeah, and I just imagine the foods probably not very good because they're not focusing on that. Yeah. And it's just sort of that mass produced. Yeah. Yeah. That's fun. Just a final note on the NED Kelly story.

Oh, yes. Just what a travel is saying. And the first thing is, quote, this authentic reenactment is likely to scare young children and the occasional adult. That's what a travel is the same. It's a bit is the same. It's a bit scary. A problem of them too.

So yeah, I guess for Maine, that's probably my big tip, Java. What's your big banana, big pineapple? Oh, the big things, yeah. Yeah, I would definitely say those things. It's hard to know, isn't it? It's hard to know your own kit. Yeah, for sure. Your own sort of country's quirks, you know,

because I think that's, you've got to ask outsiders what the weirds are. Yeah, you never say it. It's just like, I'll just live here. Yeah. We're not going to see the weird sites. We're like, I love. We're like, I love how Australians are always like, you know, Melbourne's as good as the

European cities and it's like, then why would they leave Europe? It's a very long flight. But to enjoy the city that they've never been to. Yeah, yeah. What does that even mean as good as? Like there's a rating you can rate a city somehow? Yeah, and it's very strange. And it's always like, oh, why are we always advertising the crocodiles and the desert?

You know, we've got beautiful theater companies. And so because they have them in Europe. They don't have big, there. They're sick crocodiles. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, it's just kind of a great balance. If you don't like big spiders, I wouldn't worry too much about spiders. You're not going to say them. Depending on where you go.

But I've taken out three spiders from my land room this week to put outside. How big are we talking? Just like 20 cent piece. Yeah, right. I don't know what big means. And I had to assume they're not going to harm me. Big pineapple. Big pineapple.

Yeah. Where's that? To be up north. It's in Queensland, I believe. And I think it's quite big. Yeah. But I was quite small when I went to the group pineapple. So who knows? Who knows? Now it might be, you know, just a bit taller new.

Yeah. Where's the big Humpty Dumpty? I've got a photo of me when I'm very young in front of the big Humpty Dumpty. There's a big Humpty Dumpty. There's a big Humpty Dumpty. Yeah, I don't know where that photo was taken, but... I've just looked up the big Humpty Dumpty and what travellers are saying is likely to scare young children in the case of an adult.

So, Maine, yeah, we're saying go to see the big things and maybe get to Glen Rowan if you're in country Victoria to see the, a lot, the Ned Kelly story. Plus, there's the big Ned Kelly out there as well. Oh, yeah, on the same street, the big Ned Kelly's right there as well. So you can knock off two and one there

and obviously get to the Titanic. Get to that Titanic, maybe not. Maybe not the Titanic one. Now, let me go and I'll report back to that. Maybe not the Titanic one. Let me go and I'll report back. And the last I do is from already Matthews. And this is a quote, already writes, hello, in honor of veterans day coming up in the States, when did he write this? He wrote this about a month ago. I still coming up. Yes, it is. It's November 11th. It's the same. Oh, remember November.

It's right now. Oh, yes, today. It's the day this comes out. Oh, my God. It's the same as our Remembrance Day. Remembrance Day. And also, the fifth anniversary for me first ever uploaded this show.

Oh, my God. It's a big day today. Remember, remember November 11th. So, Odee's going to share some of his It's a big day today. Remember, remember November 11. So Odie's going to share some of his favorite quotes from Chasty Puller, one of his favorite reports as a report you did pop up. Number one, Sun, when the Marine Corps wanted to have a wife, you'll be issued one.

But two, we've been looking for the enemy for several days now. We've finally found them. We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem of getting to these people and killing them. Jesse. Oh, right. Three. He's a, he's a war hero. He was like a, I just did a little Google. This is what I'm doing. I'm like keeping track. He's a multi-medal winner through, and he's like, I think,

because we've got quite a few American service people listeners. Yeah, right. And I think they, they've a bunch of them have said, Chessie pull it to them is just like their God from remembering correctly. I'm looking at a photo of him with like a bulldog wearing a little army hat and I'm on board.

Love that. Is it because of the dog? Yeah, the dog's very cute. Yeah. Yeah. How do I do it? And third one is where the where the hell do you put on a bayonet? Where the hell do you put the bayonet?

He said this while at a flamethrower demonstration, apparently Puller wanted to be ready to stab the man he said on fire. He just loved, he loved war, I reckon. Yeah. Chasty. I think these are pretty funny and as a marine vet, I also want to say thank you. A lot of the people in my unit loved this episode when it came out. Thanks for everything. There you go. That's nice. Tempify. That's nice. Tempify. That's nice.

Tempify. Here's Odie. Oh, that's nice. I don't, I don't remember any of that. I wonder if you got to those quotes in the report. What a character. All right. And guess in the, in the past have, uh, realized midway through that this second part of the show goes bad as long as the first wave. I'm not aware of this segment. There's a very funny moment with your podcast where it did go from an hour to an hour and 10, an hour and 20, an hour and 30.

And I just assumed you were just getting a little more luxurious and then realized that it was this sort of. It's been a bit of both as well because the reports have been getting longer again lately. We did our first one, almost made three hours. Amazing. And that was the report or that was over two hours of it. And did you release the whole three hours? Yeah.

That's great. I'm a big fan of this though. I like the sort of settling in nature of it. The energy kind of changes. It's like the after party. Yeah, look at it. It's like, alright. Now it's just us and the patrons.

Yeah, it really is us and the troublemakers. We've turned the music down. We'll just have it a chat. So we also like to thank a few of our other patron supporters who like, uh, support us on Patreon at the shout out level. And Justin, we comes up with a little game based on the theme. Yeah. I was talking about...

Maybe give him a ride or... Yeah, give him a ride. Yeah. Or you give him a Disney character. Oh, that's fun. But we didn't really talk too much about characters. Well, there wasn't any characters. Yeah.

You could give them... Mark Eliza was a bit of a character. That's very true. You could give them like a bad corporate idea. You could have a blue sky. It's only around blue sky thinking in Denver. I love that, except I just don't think I could come up with that many bad ideas. Yeah, maybe we come up with other rods that, you know, like the bread experience.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, love that. Yeah, okay. We'll come up with some sort of experience slash ride for them. Maybe you can use their name or where they're from as inspiration. So first, if I may, I'd love to thank from, we're not sure where, actually. That's not super helpful. Use that as information, information. Here we go. Ainsley Frank. Ainsley Frank.

Maybe the Anne Frank. No. Um. Ha ha. Ainsley, Ainsley Harriet, of course, is the, is the overexcitable British chef who hosts the British version of Ready Steady Cook. Oh. Oh. So maybe like a Ready Steady Cook experience.

So some people will bring their own food to the theme park to save money. What about you go to the experience and whatever five ingredients people from the audience put on stage, a chef has to come up with something out of that. But instead of a chef, it's just a 19 year old employee who did a two week course on how to do ready to cook. That's Rosie O'Donnell. There's a video introduction from Rosie O'Donnell. She's had to do every combination pre-plan so whatever it is they type it in and they. Five peanut butter sandwiches, two That is how we just do panadoles. I can't come. So I say sugar and a celery stick and the rosyote tunnel. Whips it into something digitally. That's great.

Thank you so much, Ainsley Frank. I think that's a fantastic idea. I'd also love to thank from Phoenix, Arizona. Sean Hoffman. Hey. You're next. Something Phoenix related, maybe. Yeah, Rising Phoenix. Rising Phoenix. Oh, okay. So Phoenix, a Phoenix would rise from the ashes. Yeah.

So it's a, it's a ride where you, you come through fire. Yeah. That's very hot. Oh, okay. And quite dangerous. So it's like you're rising through the ashes. Yeah. And then you get shot up into the air through. First they make you dress as a bird. Yeah. Like a big elaborate bird costume. Yeah, but it gets seized every time. So it's a different bird costume every time.

Wow, that's good. I think that could be really good. I think Sean would love that. Yeah. And you're taken through via a video of Dustin Hoffman in characters, brain man. Yeah. Perfect. Exactly how I envisioned it.

Awesome. I think you're going to go on. Thank you so much. Sean Hoffman. And finally, I'd love to thank from Harrod in Ohio, God's country. America's greatest state. Dean Cooley.

What about you know, well, Harrods is of course the famous, very expensive out market department store in London. What if it's like a, like a Harrods recreation, where you go in and spend too much money and you don't get that much? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna spend the experience.

It's sort of like from the outside It looks like a small version of harrads and from the inside it looks like a place where you can just buy all the merch You can buy from all the other merch shop around it. Yeah, but more expensive. Yeah But more expensive. It cost ten times as much. Now we're thinking like Now we're thinking corporate. See when you said your your Phoenix idea I was like that's good, but instead of what you've described, we just buy something from a shop and just make a really mediocre ride for cheap

and then charge people a lot of money for it. This is that's good. I'd do our good. Yeah, I know, what's up. Oh, damn. How do we normally do three of these eight, right? Yeah. Well, they're my three.

So thank you so much to Anzaly Sean and Dean. Oh, I'll go next then. Oh, no. And I would love to thank from Houston, Texas. I'd love to thank Hannah Dunning. Well, they're basketball team as the Rockets. Okay. And Dunning, Dunny,ny maybe sit on a toilet in a rock. It's not the whole rocket

It's the it's experiencing going to the toilet. Yeah, how you hate it's back So you do that vacuum. Yeah, there's like a vacuum Yeah, so you piss into a vacuum I love that that's great. I was thinking though we could talk to the people at the rocket See if we could do some sort of synergy thinking though we could talk to the people at the rocket see if we could do some sort of synergy thing. Maybe possibly like a video screen with some rockets players they talk you can upcharge them. Right. A really exciting opportunity as you exit you can buy some rockets merch. Right. So like when you're on the toilet like James

Harden comes out and like gives you a pet talk. What's your toilet? Yeah. That's good. This is awful. It's a bad thing. No, you're committing. You're honestly evaluating for sure. That's very, very good. I'd also love to thank from what country is SE? Sweden, I think. Sweden.

And what does I butcher this? Are you looking it up at that? Yeah. Yeah, it's in Sweden. Just great work. Oh, with 836 inhabitants in 2012. Wow. And that place is called Jess. What is an omelette due to an O again? That lengthens it, I think. There might be like, Volsio. Yeah, I reckon. Maybe. I think that's a great interpretation. I would love to thank.

Harsha. Mm. Warfinch. Oh, beautiful. Harsha. Harsha. Warfinch from Volsio. Volsio.

Volsio. Okay. So. That's Swedish. I've got a fun idea. I just couldn't Google Sweetish largest companies. So the H&M experience. Right. Basically, the way the H&M experience works is you go in and you see sort of it's a cool fashion show where you are the paparazzi and you sit down and you get to press a little

thing, it makes little flashes and on stage is different park employees doing the runway of the latest H&M clothes. Afterwards you just walk through a small H&M store where you can purchase your home with H&M products and also the photos. People come around to your house and go, who's that on the catwalk? You're like, uh, the 17 year old that sells turkey legs. I took that photo. I took that photo. The H&M experience. The H&M experience.

I think we're now, we're starting to really cook now. Yeah, now we're getting it. Oh, that's it. That's great. Thank you so much. K, that's it. That's a great. Thank you so much. Kaja, Kaja. Thank you so much. Great name.

I would also love to thank from Hawthorne East here in Victoria. I'd love to thank Jemima Knox. Oh, obviously the Hawthorne football team is the Hawks. Yep. They have a training facility that built out in the and the outer east there. But maybe some sort of like Aflone Eastland. Have you ever done an episode, sorry, this is off topic, but kind of very much on topic, about the AFL experience.

About the experience. Wasn't there a there was like an exhibition in the middle of the city in like the early 2000s. I reckon you should get Broden Kelly from Antidona on to talk about this called the AFL experience. I don't know, it's like you spend $50 to go and like, keep a full bullet of video screened and then like watch a video of James Herd being like, good on you, mate.

Wow. Wow. For my ex ex went to Aspen. I reckon. So what went to Aspen? We came up with that idea. Wow. So something to ask him. Oh, I can't. So what we're going to ask him with that idea. Wow. So something like that, maybe.

Yeah, that's good. So yeah, we have a like, but a Hawthorne exclusive. And it's set it, it's you go to the city, but it's as if you're in the Eastern suburbs. Yeah. It's a recreation of Hawthorne. Yeah. That's great. That beautiful.

Is Hawthorn, does it? Hawthorn have a riverly cinema or lead-o? Yes, both. You know, like a miniature. Sorry to break. A miniature, a miniature lead-o cinema, you go in and you watch a 20 minute movie about the sights and sounds of Hawthorn. And on the way out, Jeff Kenneth tracks your hand.

Yes! Well done. Well done. And Jeff Kenneth impersonator. But we don't want to make it, it's not like, current halls on this is like, hallthorn from 2006 or something. Yeah, yeah. Obviously. You've got to be sort of a classic hallthorn.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. You can get on the number 70 tram and it just takes you around the outskirts of this, this hallthorn legs. Yeah, I love that. Like that. Oh, I like the scenne land. Yeah, I love that. I like that. Oh, I like the scenic railway. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, I love that. It's got a little tram. That's fantastic. Pretty good. Thanks, Grandma. Druman and Nick Mason. Yeah. Jumama and Nox, it's not the great name.

Jesus is a great batch of names here today. Very good. Oh, wait, is that my third? That's my third. Yes. Yes. It's the day. Well, I was going to just keep going. I was having fun. I would like to think now from

Mantin in New South Wales, Sarah Smith. Sarah Smith. Okay. Not the Sarah Smith who hosts breakfastes on Triple R. I mean, I think she lives in Melbourne. Mantin Glen Mantin was a footballer who played Ascendant and just Calton in the 90s and the other 2000s, like the Glen experience. It's famous glens Glen McGraw Glen Robbins. Glen McGraw Glen Robbins. Glen McGraw, of course. The Rowan shopping center in Glen Wavelin.

Yeah. Oh, you could have a smaller version of the Glen Rowan net kelvin. Oh, yes. Sound, sound, sound, sure. A recreation of the Glen, a small version of the small version of Glen Rowan. Yes. Glen will. This is grass.

All the famous glens. And then the tackles are like, where everyone's a Glen. Danny Boy would play a lot, only would have changed it to Gleny Boy. Oh, Gleny Boy. From because it already has the lick from Gleiny to Gleiny. But now you just, yeah, get rid of Danny. Yeah. That's off Danny.

I love that. I think this could be really good. That might be our best yet. You guys have a real corporate mind. You're making the real money now. But now, what's the, where's the synergy coming here though? Well, I think you maybe maybe talk to different glens They're representation their management and maybe Glenn merch. I really just see like your favorite glens

Glenn 20 Sposiboy That you can buy The merch has name tags says my mom. My name is Glenn. Yeah, That's all they are. I reckon the Glenn 20 experience, I really see something. Remember in the 90s, where touch screens weren't very common? So places like science works and stuff had touch screens. And you go in and there's these big screens. And it's like a digital recreation of a messy kitchen

and you use the touch screen to clean the kitchen. That's my the Glen 20x for you. Oh, that's good. Yeah, absolutely. And ask the would you just sort of maybe step into a Glen 20 store and pass some various Glen 20 products. I should say the Glen badges of both spellings of Glen one and or two ends. Well, that's good to be inclusive.

Thank you so much, Sarah Smith from Glen Man and New South Wales. Thank you. So I like to thank now from Powys in Great Britain. I'm thinking this is probably a Welsh place. That is James Burton. And I apologize if I've said that incorrectly there. It's a James. No, I think you got that right.

My answer is your middle name. More on powens. P-O-W-Y-O-E. I've got a Google Powys. P-O-W-Y-Y. Yes. Very Welsh. Okay. You didn't have a go at the city though, Dave. I don't think you noticed you skipped over the city. I didn't get to skip over shit. Yeah, no, I'm not going to have a crack in on, come on, babe. Well and truly under the bus. It is in Wales, absolutely. I'll start you off. Lower. Now you have a go. Then it is C. Looks like come trim. There is no vowels in the first word. That's amazing. And then the second word, there's a couple.

I'm not even gonna, it would be offensive for me to have a crack to be honest. So I'm not going to have a go. But thank you to James Burton. Oh, and Alan. James Burton. I'm really offensive if you have a go. I've just called it come trench. James Burton. Okay.

Tim Burton. Yeah. Tim Burton. Tim Burton. Tim Rawls. Well, I've got about, of course, you got the Adelaide Crowe's player. The Bert Man Bert Man Bert Man Bert Man. Tim Burton, like a Tim Burton land is pretty great. Yeah. You know, I think that's one of those

things where it could be awesome. But if you went to Denver, Colorado, you did your Coke, you came out of that. You do like Tim Burton, but only the stuff he's made in the last five years. Yes, Willie Wonka. So that's the other wrong, Willie Wonka. It's like, it's all the things you got to be got that big eyes movie, which was pretty solid, but that's what the attraction is People looking around like where's it would see the hands now. No, we're too expensive the right People that desperate to have a night before Christmas t-shirt. I'm afraid we don't have those. I'm so sorry

But we do have we do have the dark place or whatever Where is that one about a vampire that no one really watch. Did you want a T-shirt? I saw that one of the cinemas. So do I. That was the last one I saw at the cinemas. You know what I mean? That was the one where I was like I think. I think I'm done. I think I'm done. I think I'm done. I think I'm done. I think I'm done. He's not going to save this. I think someone needs to come in here and tell them to stop.

This is what happens when art happens in a frictionless vacuum. Can I do this? Yeah. Someone has to start saying, you know. Hey, we want to remake Dark Shadows and we're going to have Johnny Depp do whatever the fuck he wants to make up that's not very effective. Can I do that? All right.

Yeah, sure. He's $20 million. Yeah, his version of Dumbo. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't, did you? Did you watch that? No, but apparently, doesn't it like, have you seen it? Yeah. Apparently, it's like, because the original Dumbo is only like an hour and a bit.

Yeah, right. So they were like, how do you redo a movie that's quite short? People want longer movies now. Now most people would go, don't do it. Then the next thing you'd do is like maybe just pat it out. A little, like like just have a few more scenes. Like that terrifying pink elephant scene longer and scarier. They loved Disney movies

loved like just that weird crook bit that upset you. Kids movies then were just like and we have to have that one scene that just gives them nightmares. Yeah. But there was that film. They just added another 40 minutes of plot. So apparently where the old Dumbo ended, this just kept going and he goes to the city. What is he, babe? Literally, they just like, Dumbos day out. It's like, it's like, it's too short.

It's that, it's that, like. I got no problem. It's just like, it's like, it's too short. It's that, it's that, like. I got no problem with shorter movies. That's fine. I don't know what, I'm suddenly at annoyed that every film's on for over two hours now. Yeah. The amount of like movies I've watched with, like the, the, the, the, the, the hour. Thank you for making it. There's a beetle juice

to announce. Yeah. All right. All right. Have we thanked one more? So that's James Burton heading up, Tim Burton learned. And finally, I would like to thank from Kotheel Oxfordshire and great Britain, Kate Doherty. Hey Doherty, okay, Count and Playa Sam Doherty. The also Doherty's gym. Oh yeah, Doherty's gym. Gymland. Muscle, muscle, muscle, learn. Yeah, muscle, learn. Do you think for Muscle, muscle land. Yeah, muscle land.

Do you need for your muscles? And there's all those, those cut out things where you put your head in and you're a very muscle man. And there's a lot of like skinny teenage boys that are a bit musly wearing like fake muscles. So you're just kidding me. I love muscle land brought to you by Doherty's. And I have the food cord, everything comes in like in the style of a protein bar.

Yeah, any meal in bar for you or at seafood. Yeah, yeah, seafood or you can eat buffet. And there is a gym like there's a like a gym at the in there, but it's like not a re like it's like kind of fun. It's almost like a play. Yeah. Yeah, they're like, yeah, instead of the big weights, it's all a lot.

So you have everyone can look like you're photo-culture. Yeah, they love like bad theme parks, love a photo-operunity. They're like, the reason this corner has very little going on is for a photo, but yeah, you like, yeah, it looks like you're lifting a big weight. Yeah, and there's like Arnie on the wall or something saying,

you can do it. Yeah. Something like that. Well, you can be in that famous handshake with Arnie. Yeah. The kind of memes you can with him and from Predator. Car Weathers. Car Weathers.

Oh, that's Car Weathers. I'm going after one. But maybe that's maybe that's like maybe that's they tried to get Arnie, but Arnie's like no I have an investment in gold's gym, so unfortunately I can't be a part of the Doherty's project Yeah, so then it's Cal weather If you and Cal weather, it's you and Cal weather Yeah, Cal weather is in rest of development, is that?

Is that Cal weather? Yeah, it's so fun And he's always stealing stuff Yeah, that version of Cal weatherathers, which totally be up. Here they come in person, do it for, you finish eating that protein barrel of the rest of it. I think muscle world sounds like the worst place on earth. Yeah.

Love it. I want to go there. I want to go there too. I'm imagining that the weights look heavy, but they really like. But the bars already have a bend in them, so it looks like you're lifting really high. Oh, that's really cool. They go that far.

That's really, and there's like that, and they're kind of, they're made of a material that's not quite durable enough. So within two or three years, it really does just look like a soft foam, because it's got chips in it. And no one's really making it work anymore. No one's replacing it. Yeah, because it's muscle world. And they lose the dough, it's got chips in it. And no one's really making it work anymore. No one's replacing it.

Yeah, because it's muscle world. And they lose the doughdy's sponsorship. Yeah, yeah. But you can see that just spray painted over. Yeah. This little independent gym's actually. Actually, this is too expensive for us. This is a briefstint of fitness first.

Yeah. Muscle world be fitness first. Yeah, I'm so sorry. So through all of the different jibs until they're like, no, thank you. Oh, man. All right, well, that brings to the last few people we need to thank.

And these are new members in the trip ditch club. People have been supporting us for three years on the shout out level. Get, they get inducted into the trip ditch club. I'm standing in the door to develop a road. So impressed by that three years. I became Owen Wilson. Oh wow. So the way this work is, I'll read out that name, let

I mean, Jess is working on the bar in this club. She's put together a cocktail, different every week and some sort of all derves They've books the band maybe maybe we could pass everyone of these duties Oh, yes, so we usually have a live act that could be dead or alive anyone anything can happen in this club performing live Who do you think would like to serenade our patrons tonight? Is it just any anyone so last week was sting? Oh, I think this music of sting. Yeah, which is nice of him to say yes to. Yeah. I don't always do that, but that's like a sing the music of anything.

But sometimes, you know, like could be dead. What's your dream gig? So, it's like one artist is going to sing for them. Yeah, they're in the corner. There's a little stage set up and you can either go and rock out with them or you can just have it playing the bass. While you're thinking about it, Zach, Jess, what do we got for our durs and drinks?

Okay, well, in like a classic sort of theme park vibe, what's classic theme park food? Like chips, corn dogs, hot dogs, popcorn, definitely chips. Oh, very loves cotton candy. Yeah. Love fairy floss. And then drinks wise, you can have anything you want. It's just going to come in a cup that's three times too big. I can't believe that.

It's going to be like bigger than your head. And everything served in that. You could have milk, or you could have like a peanut collada. It's all coming in the same cup. Oh, I have a peanut collada, please. Okay, great. No problem. I have a peanut collada.

Here's your very big cup. I'll have three ladies of milk, please. No problem. Your favorite drink of all time. Here's your very big cup. I'll have three ladies of milk, please. No problem. You'll have a drink of all time. He's a very big cup. And who, who we got playing? Well, so here's the thing, right? I didn't think to make it theme park related.

If it was theme park related, it would be a 19 year old girl who looks a bit like Marilyn Monroe. But because for some reason, when she said, artists, you know, usually I take a little while to think of someone like in an instant, I've not thought of this for a very long time, but in an instant, I thought of William Shatton as spoken word. Common people. Even remember that brief period of William Shatton that it spoke and words. That's great. That just came to me and I feel like I need to be honest to that. That's my truth. I love it. Big fan of that.

I think our Patreon supporters will love that too. Yeah, yeah, that honest to that. That's my truth. I love it. Big fan of that. I think our Patreon supporters will love that too. Yeah, yeah, that's an absolute truth. Alright, now Dave normally hot. He's like the hot man. Is there anything he'll hop them up basically? No, and then Jess normally hops up Dave. I didn't hype him up.

He gets a bit shy. Yeah, maybe you could hop Jess up. Okay, for sure. I'll just see whoops man. Oh, I'd like to hype them up. There's only two inductees this week. It would go. Oh, there's only two inductees this week. Firstly from Never Serrett, Zion in Illinois, it's Michael Schneider.

Yes. You don't be the Schneider. Come on in. Yes. I don't know what it means, but yeah, all right. I'm not entirely sure. What's up?

Come on. It was a It was a Pan on Deny. You want me to Schneider? I guess now I get it. Come on in and from South Milwaukee in Wisconsin, I think it is Samantha M. Hitchcock. Oh She's Milwaukee in here Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, good for you for supporting for such an extended period of time.

All right, well, that brings us to the end of the episode. I guess before we go, we should say one more time. Please do check out the new Netflix show, Arnie Donners, big old house of fun. Mm-hmm. They held it. Fantastic. We're so excited They held it. Fantastic. We're so excited to see it.

The trailer looks fantastic. There's a very good chance of by the time people are listening, even if they're listening as soon as it's come out that I've already watched all of it. That there's a very good chance of that. Is it bingeable? Is all dropping at once? Yeah, it's all dropping at once. It's six episodes.

I would recommend binging it. You know, I think we've tried really hard. Sketch is a hard one to make bingeable, but we tried really hard to give it like running jokes and bits and bumps and it's like, it doesn't like have a arc because it's sketch, but it has like running jokes and callbacks and I think the bet, I think the funnest way to do it

is all at once. Yeah. 12-01,01 AM Pacific time. Get that algorithm cooking for us, please God. Please. And you can follow, we'll put your Twitter handle in the show. No, that's what you're what's your best one to get on to? The Twitter or Instagram? It depends on what you follow, what you do.

You do your best work everywhere. Yeah. And there's also not one but two podcasts where we can hear you on. There's the Aunty Donna podcast. Yes. Which I've been getting quite into, like, very, very funny stuff. We did, there's an episode called Funny Mums and Dads, which is my personal favourite.

And we've got one. I think it's coming out this Saturday, I think, which is a Funny Mums and Dad sequel, where Funny Mom and two Funny Dads are on a bus trip through Italy and they meet a Funny, funny dad from America. It's a lot of fun. Sounds great. And there's also, like, was Armorama with Mish. Yeah, which is more of this ilk, more this kind of

Chitty Chatti, bit fun, bit silly, bit chill, bit talking about a movie you've never seen and never will, but sounds interesting. maybe I'll get around to watching that and then you don't probably like and people can find us a do-go-on on Patreon and on Gmail and on YouTube and Twitter. Instagram, Facebook, everywhere. Like you were on Gmail so congrats on the award. Oh, no, that's very exciting. Thank you so much. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.

We talked about it on BookTreat, the other show that we... Oh, yeah. ...that I did that you guys were the guests on, but we haven't talked about it on here, that our web series was nominated for an actor. So thanks everyone that watched that show. It's still available online. Check it out on your YouTube. Actors, if you're people overseas, it's the proper proper...

It's like our Emmy sort of Emmy Academy Awards thing and they have like our web series. So it's proper, proper good guys. Oh yeah, with a real deal. Thank you so much. That's okay. I just think it's important for when there's a person from the outside on. You can't tell your American and British listeners how big of a deal it is. You've got you got to be like whenever so I can be like no thank you thank you yeah that's actually why we are done up thank you so much for joining us Zach thank you Zachary Mr. Ruhlain thank you so much well thank you everyone for listening at home, and I'll see you next week.

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