Two In The Think Tank - 273 - The Watergate Scandal

Episode Date: January 13, 2021

The Watergate Scandal was a political scandal that went all the way to the top (President Richard Nixon) between 1972 and 1974. It has been referred to as the scandal of the century and this is the story of how two young journalists helped crack the case wide open!Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodBuy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 12 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoonCheck out our AACTA nominated web series: https://www.youtube.com/user/stupidoldchannel Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:All The President’s Men by Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodwardhttps://www.history.com/topics/1970s/watergatehttps://www.britannica.com/event/Watergate-Scandalhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/watergate/timeline.htmlhttps://www.vox.com/2014/8/7/5970967/what-was-watergate-scandal-nixonhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/watergate/https://www.dummies.com/education/history/american-history/president-richard-nixon-and-the-watergate-scandal/

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I'm Jess. Hi, I'm Matt as well as a very proud member of the team here. And it is good to be back. This is the first episode we're recording since our holiday break. Hope you had a great Christmas and a happy New Year. How did I say that weird? But there's gonna be back in the same place as you too.

We all spread across different states. I got recognized in Tasmania, bought a book and the one by the I said, what brings you down here? I said, I'm just down for the holidays. Wait, how do you know I'm down here? How did I look on the second? I felt my first instinct was, I don't, don't I not fit in around here? My dress please. You look like a terrorist. You look like you come from these parts. I don't, don't I not fit in around here? Hello, what from around. Oh, I'll bring you down here.

Oh, okay. I must be in the out of town. I'm not a local in, huh? Just because I've never been here before. Hey, it's just very cool, very cool bookstore there. Any bookstores are cool books. I've been at the store a few times as well. But first time I've been recognized. Dave, where did you get recognized over your holidays? Just before the break I got recognized in a bannings. Oh, okay. That's fun. That was cool.

I was really hoping you had nothing for that. Oh, and, fuck. I've been recognized. But apart from that, over the holidays, absolutely no recognition and shame on you all. Yes. Come on. Yes. Oh, okay, I'm going to tell an embarrassing story. Okay. I didn't

pride. You said that like, all right. Matt will die of shared shame in this. You'll cringe. No, secondhand embarrassed. I was at a fishing chip shop last year and I made my order and then I went out because I said, I'll be 10 minutes, I said I'll just walk around the block and I came back in and there was a guy sitting there and he goes, excuse me, are you Dave? And he was wearing like a high vis, he didn't work there and I thought, oh man, here we go, all right, here we go. And then I said yes and he goes, oh they just called you a name. I've never felt more like so, so embarrassed such that my first instinct was, this guy knows the book.

But at least you didn't say it. Always nice to be a fan. I thought you had a pen out. Right, with a head shot. I thought you were saying no pictures. Yeah, all right. It'll make this one out too. I will not kiss your baby.

It was, you know, this called your name out. I was like, oh, thanks. Cool, there's called you name out. I was like, oh, thanks. Cool, my fish and chips are ready. Why didn't I? That is a better result, really. Yeah, to be fair, yeah. And I get the fish and chips, yeah. So, oh.

And that was quite nice of him. I mean, too fair. If I was working at the fish and chips shop, if I was having a bad day, I'd be like, all right mate, I'll fucking do that if you don't mind. Yeah, that's right. I don't need you help here. But if you have a great day and that's a nice person, you'd be like, all right mate, I'll fucking do that if you don't mind. Yeah, that's right. I don't need your help here. But if you have a great day and that's a nice person,

you'd be like, no, no, no, it's nice guy. But if I'd said, oh, I'll wait till they call it, thanks mate. Yeah, it's so, it looks like a cycle. Oh, wait, I don't trust you. No, thank you. Yeah, because you're so burnt from not being recognized for your turn on him.

No, fuck you. I said fuck you, sir. No, fuck you. I said fuck you so. No fuck you. And he's just like, oh, I just didn't want your chips to get cold. You're not a nice person. Well, you could have listened to the last week's episode. Hey Dave, for new listeners in this new year, do you want to explain what the show is?

I know you've put out the call for people to put it in a music, in a wad jingle, 60-style sitcom style. Yes, we'd love that. That's a style too much then. Yeah, it's fine. And we do have a few more in the bank. I just then have one locked and loaded today. So can you do a spoken word version? All right. There's three of us here. We take it in turns to report on a topic suggested by a listener more often than not. It is Matt's turn to report on a topic just and I have no idea what he's about to tell us about. And we always start with question.

It was actually pretty good. That was pretty good. Speed run. So if anyone wants to put that into 60 style sitcom style jingle. Or if they could get like William Chatten to read that out of something. And send it through to do go on pod at gmail.com.

Anyway, like Dave said, it is my report today, and we'll start the question. I think it's a pretty easy one to see. Here you go. What event started the convention of adding the suffix gate to simplify a scandal? I don't understand that question at all. Oh, right.

And the answer is water gate. Oh, oh, gate. I got, for some reason, suffix there, to me was just suffic, the place. And so I was like, there's a gate in Suffix that has something to do with it. Got you, Watergate, okay. Suffix, the plural of Suffix.

Yeah. I'm really looking forward to hearing this report. I don't know too much about the original one other than like the two sentence probably summary. But last week. What about from Forest Gump? Oh. It's referenced in Forest Gump.

Oh, I don't remember the reference. What happened? Forest is staying in a hotel and he sees people with flashlights in the building opposite and he calls someone about it because it's distracting him or it's like kicking. So it's implying that he was the one right. Right. Right.

I, it's probably referenced in Weed and Start the Fire. Probably. Probably most things are. Yeah. But yeah, I did not know much about it either. Put it up to the vote. It won in a landslide. Yeah. About 60% or just over 60%.

Would there be an investigation vote gate? I didn't make this should be. Someone hacked the system? Votigate. But it was quite coincidental because there was a similar landslide vote in the story. But this was suggested by Nesta Guero, Tim Randall, Jared Brazil, Kevin Pakrad, Baylor Robert Barnard, Marcus Brisbane and Alexandra Rogers Brassington. What a great crop of names.

Incredible. That sounds like a suffoc named. I don't understand. I do not understand the question one bit. Sorry. But you know how they call everything something. Absolutely. I totally get it now. But I did.

It was just my enunciation of some of those words. And possibly as I was reading it, I was doubting that it made sense as well. So maybe you took on some of that. Yeah, I am an empath. You know, I also have not had more than six hours sleep in five weeks. So yeah, that's not in total. Yeah, in total. At least we sleep in like one hour every three days. Yeah, it's not in total. Yeah, in total. We sleep in like one hour every three days.

Yeah, it's not a good plan. I just stay awake. Oh, that was your plan though. Yeah, I stay awake and then every three days I sleep for an hour. Well, it's actually half an hour every three days. That's awful. Yeah, it's not a good, actually. I'll put to one hour every three days.

Yeah, all of a sudden, if you want to be a cat. Yeah, all of a 10 minutes a day, if you wanted to sleep. Yeah, it's probably better. How an effort through. Anyway, so my brain, no, walk, no good. All right, well, good news. Do you say no walk, no good? No. Yeah, I did.

Oh, no. I think I'm going to be relying pretty heavily on you today. It's been fantastic. Probably a good call. Yeah, it is like, it's a big story. It's too big for one podcast. This would be, that'd be full podcast series about this, I'm sure.

And yes, a lot of great references if people wanna read more about it. I've been reading, or, you know, with my ears, reading the audio book, all the presidents' men, which is what a lot of this report is based on as part of it. I was actually trying to summarize a whole book at one point, and I got to the end of the first chapter,

and that's a good third of the way through my report. Wow. That's dense. It's dense with a lot of stuff. So I skim past a lot of things, like you have to do on a comedy historical podcast. So your book sheet isn't as easy as everyone thinks it is. No one cares about book sheet. I just had a micro nap, Jess, I saw you did too. Well, we have

to knock that off your three day too. No one thinks about bookcheats. Oh, I do. And fortunately, no one else in his room gives a fuck about bookcheats. So thanks so much for thinking we go wow booktits easy we don't think about it at all. Do I really have an ex-exhibition? Okay. Can I? Absolutely not. New year every second year. That's right you've got 12 months off man. After being on 90 episodes last year. Fair enough. Well, let's get into this report. So the Watergate scandal gets its name from the Watergate Office Building, one of six buildings in the Watergate complex in the Foggy Bottom neighborhood of Washington D.C. Foggy Bottom. Foggy Bottom. Probably didn't need a...

High school nickname? In fact, in the neighborhood, but... Foggy Bottom. What's the mascot at the high school foggy bottom high school and they Mask on is a like a black a brown gasses see me now And some shorts yeah, like they've even got like an animated person on the lawn And nobody wants me at that mascot person on the lawn. He'd be like, oh, and nobody wants me in that mascot. Oh, no. And I've drawn the short straw.

If you get a detention, that's what you have to do. Last six weeks, foggy bottom. Fuggy bottom. Go bottom. That's dumb. So early in the morning of June the 17th, 1972. Fuggy morning? It the 17th, 1972. A foggy morning?

It was a foggy morning. So really just after midnight, Watergate Security Guard Frank Will's noticed that a latch on one of the doors in the building had been taped over to stop it from locking properly. This wasn't in any old section of the building either, but where the Democratic National Committee's headquarters was located in the Watergate office building. All the presidents the Democratic National Committee's headquarters was located

in the Watergate Office Building. All the presidents' men that book I was talking about before, book detailing the events of Watergate, described it as an odd place to find the Democrats, the opulent Watergate on the banks of the Potomac in downtown Washington, was as Republican as the Union League Club. It's tenants included many key Republican figures, plus many other prominent figures of the Nixon administration. I should have looked up how to pronounce Potomac, apologies for Washington DC people. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Potomac. Don't leave that car just sitting in a heap. I'm a potomac, right? Is that pick a part? Yes. Sorry, just...

The futuristic complex with its serpent teeth concrete balustrades and equally menacing prices, I looked it up. Those prices were like, it was a hundred grand at the time for a two bedroom apartment, which is now about 650,000. It's prices were like, it was a hundred grand at the time for a two bedroom apartment, which is now about 650,000, it's like, well, it sounds, in an opulent area. Two bedroom apartment for 650? You're doing pretty well.

Oh boy. Yeah, two bedroom apartment. Tell you what, these boomers back then. Yeah, you say how you do. We're probably like kids in, whatever the boom is doing. All right. But they first home for a little

little bugger bread. A bugger bread and a buddy garlic man. I'll throw it in there. Two different kinds of bread. Have you got two loaves of bread? Well, I've got one life and one garlic man. I'll take it. Brilliant.

I love garlic. But apparently the complex had become the symbol of the ruling class in Richard Nixon's Washington. Anyway, so that's just setting up. It doesn't really matter, but it's interesting that it's a slightly strange place for the Democrats, but that is not at all relevant, apart from maybe a point of interest. We're going to U.J. saying, and I'm getting it. Yeah, if you're interested. You know I understand politics. Oh, yeah, big time. We all understand that we get it. We get it. politics. Oh, yeah, big time. We all understand that we get it. We got it. So Frank will's the security guard removed the tape off the latch, not thinking much of it.

But when he returned and found it taped again, he realized something fishing. Well, the fishy was a foot. Hey, I don't know. Some sort of just for last prank video. Am I being punk? Hello. You are a part of you be like, and did I not remove that tape? Anyway, he was way quicker than that. He goes, something weird's happening. I'm calling the cops. And people have said since then, if he didn't think so quick,

a lot of people would have gone, whatever, or I'll call my supervisor and I'll figure it out, but because he called the cops, this whole ball got rolling. Wow. The police are responded to the call with three plane clothes officers in an unmarked car. These officers, Sergeant Paul Leaper,

Officer John Barrett, and Officer Carl Schoffler, were dressed as hippies working the so-called bum squad ships. That's what they called it. Because they would dress like hippies, like bombs. To go undercover. To go undercover, yeah, that would really just patrol on the streets for drug related crimes right Dylan. Yeah, hey Hey, I want to get a want to get buzzed. Hey me and two of my friends

Over here Clean shaven young men We'd like to get buzzed if that is a quieter right with you. Hello fellow bum Yeah, also a bum. Hello, I do not have a house. Nor a wife or children. For a choir, illegal illicit substances. Please speak into this microphone. Well, I think these cups, they, they

learnt in it a fair bit. One of them described their look as sort of a young child's manson. Oh, that's a weird reference. Good look though. A reference to give. That's how he saw himself. And so they've rocked out this, so the security guys, I'll have to call in the big guys. And then three, quote unquote, hippies to him. He's like, what the fuck? Yeah. So the police don't walk down the office hallway, checking rooms left and right as they went along. I'm not necessarily

expecting to find anything, but the way Officer Barrett was talking about it was like, I was kind of shitting myself, which is an amazing kind of sort of openness for a cop to talk about years later. Then all of a sudden he got started, he saw someone's arm hiding behind a glass petition, which doesn't sound the best place to hide. Quick behind this class. I'm Barrett Latest said, it scared the living bejesus out of me. The shit came out. He yelled,

come up with your hands up, I'm gonna blow your head off. And five sets of hands went up. There was a whole crew in there. What, two and a half people? Five sets. Okay. They five hands.

Five hands. Five hands come in. He's like, what the fuck They five sets. Five hands. Five hands come on. He's like, what the fuck? He discarded his ten hands. And I, for some reason, shaded a five sets of hands, thinking he would make it easier to flow. You forgot who you do a podcast with. Somebody who over thinks maths.

If he didn't do it, I would have. You know? Yeah. How many in each set? Five sets of hands. We're gonna have to, like, seven in each set. That's how many people that, that's a lot of people. How many fingers?

Are we counting thumbs as fingers? Oh, that old argument. He saw 50 fingers going in the air. What about thumbs? LAUGHING Including thumbs. Oh my God. So all five men were arrested,

and they apparently gave fake names, but were later found out to be James McCord, Bernard Baker, so Bernard Barker, Frank Sturgis, Eugene O'Martinez, and Virgilio Gonzalez. According to Barrett, this wasn't your normal typical burglary. These were bugging devices, tear gas pens, many, many rolls of film, locksmith tools and thousands of dollars in $100 bills consecutively ordered. I never

quite figured out why that was. Was it to plant them and to track them? Well, I'm not, I don't know why that was. Anyway, or that was just, yeah, someone listening to me and be like, oh, yeah, is it because it's like a skate money? If you've got to go on the run, you got, right, that's why they're sequenced. I guess, yeah, so they normally say that wouldn't be non sequentially ordered. Yeah, and if they're sequentially,

it's like a way to track or something. So yeah, anyway, I probably should have looked into that, but this one got away from me. The fact that an unmarked police car was the one to arrive on scene was very lucky. As the burglars also had former FBI agent Alfred Baldwin working as a look at. He just saw three hippies get out.

Yeah. And apparently because, yeah, they were hippies. He didn't raise the alarm for a walkie talkie like the plan was also Also is offer officer Barrett later told ABC News, if a uniform police carat answer that call could have been a whole different ball game. But also, it's believed that Baldwin was distracted, not just by their uniform, but also because he was across the street watching a movie called Attack of the Puppet People.

Well, it was meant to be keeping a watch on the burger. What was it watching a movie on? I think it's in a hotel room across the wire. I see. I thought he's at a cinema like he's driving along. You see, I saw him sing Attack of the Puppet movie. I can't miss that. Yeah, I'd be a fool.

How long does Burger King go for? I could probably miss the first air in our hour. I'll never forgive myself if I don't sit. I mean, they don't repeat these things. Yeah. And of course, it was a repeat from it was a movie from about 14 years earlier. But I missed it then that I'm not missing in that.

Make that mistake once. For me once. By the time he realized the cops were there, it was too late for them to escape. He got on to them instead of being able to escape. The cops were already in there. They hid and as we know, soon after that, they were caught red handed. Good one, Baldwin.

How many red hands? Five sets. Five sets of red hands. All right. All different shades. Crimson, scarlet. I'll take blood bread please. Please. Baldwin obviously, he wasn't busted.

He wasn't figured out that he was involved until... He was watching a movie, yeah. He was just like, he saw them being taken away and just sort of awkwardly put popcorn in his mouth. I'm just staying in a hotel. He just turns the volume up on the movie. Draught the shades. Yeah.

Goes to bed. Huhs the show. Yeah. Go to the bed. Huh? I don't know. Oh, it's a show. It wasn't immediately clear what it occurred. Who were these men working for? What was their goal? Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward received a phone call at 9am that morning.

So you know, the arrest was about 230, so this is 6500 hours later, Dave. Yeah, I can do some maths as well. That's five and a half hours later. Fuck. Do you say eight or nine? Nine. Okay, you're right.

Oh, thank God. New piece of shit, Dave. So, he was called in on this Saturday to cover the burglary. It was in his late 20s and he'd been working on the poster about nine months. His first instinct was he was being handed a bit of a dud. There's a dud story. Oh my god. He was shattered. He's like, been in nine months. I thought I was possessed. And he genuinely does sound like he thought he'd done his hard work after nine months and he should have been getting the big stories by this point.

What he didn't realize, this was the story of the century. That is amazing. And he was about to play a key role in nearly past on it. He's still a very famous journalist. Yeah. I mean, really based off of this, he was one of the writers of all the presidents, man, the book that you are, that details details. His own investigation. But it's all in the third person, which threw me off. It's him and another writer who I'll mention. And then Barbox in it says,

and he was looking real wild. He's hot. Did I just describe him? It won't work. It's hot. It's hot, hot as man in the room. Whatever room he was in. There are rooms.

Saunas, Silhada. He's hotter than the sauna. He's even hotter than the room itself. Yeah, that's hot. It was uncomfortable to be near him. That's why he had not many friends. Okay, if you're looking for a reason, that's why. That's why he never settled down. He just didn't want to burden anybody with being that hot

all the time. It's hard. It's a curse, really. According to all the president's men, a book about the scandal that he wrote when Woodward arrived at the post He checked in with the city editor and learned with surprise that the burglar said not broken into the small local democratic party office That he was thinking but the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in the Watergate office apartment hotel complex So he was seeing his head,

it was like, there's some small time democratic breaking. Even that to me, it's like, it still feels like a decent story. They had gas pens. Yeah. And he's like, oh, I can't believe it. I'm lump of the gas pen story. Oh, you can.

The diamond doesn't around here. So maybe this was the biggest story that Woodward had first thought. He also found out that another Washington Post General has had been assigned a story, Carl Bernstein, who would go and write the book with him. So a bunch of people that day were working on the story, but they're the two sort of main guys on the beat,

working on it. This wasn't welcome news to Woodward that Bernstein was involved. Though they had never worked on a story together before, they didn't really get on. No, both in their late 20s, one was 28, one was 29, but had arrived in their roles in very different ways. According to the book, Bernstein was a college dropout. He had started as a copyboy at the Washington Star when he was 16, became a full-time reporter at 19, and had worked at the post since 1966. I don't know if that was the same year, the Saints won. They're one and only AFL premier ship. Fun fact. So far. So far. So far. Yeah. They're only one of that century. Many more to come this. So far. So far.

So on the one hand, you've got Bernstein. This guy, college dropout, he's also got long hair, worked his way up to the where he was. On the other hand, Woodward and started at Yale was a veteran of the Navy, Officer Corps. And Bernstein saw him as a quote, a primordona who played heavily at office politics. Bernstein with his long hair on the other hand, Woodward, sensible haircut. Of course. You'll set your watch to it? Real, yin and yang, Sonora. Definitely watch setting abilities. What a fun odd couple. What I'm predicting is a lot of like, that's not how I do it. Well,

what would you know? Yeah, you're blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they're going to slowly learn to respect each other. And then they're going to be closer than brothers. Yeah. And then they're going to write a book together. Yeah, to be very close to write a book. Yeah, you do. Because you have to share one computer. I remember there's a lot of 72 computers. That probably hardly did exist, actually. I was gonna joke that they didn't, but I guess they probably didn't really.

I bet they would have been on type, right? That's why people had so many kids, no Netflix. They had to do something. I got a type of something. Did a typewriter? What's on the notes? Or a tie for Rita. Tape senorita.

Oh dear. So, to Woodward Bernstein, look like one of those counterculture journalists that he despised. While Bernstein thought that Woodward's rapid rise of the post had less to do with his ability than his establishment credentials. Yeah, I'll boy over here, phoning in a few savers, doing all the office politics bullshit, whereas I've just been here working, yeah.

Work my way up. Work my way up from bootstrap. Bottom. So veteran crime journalists at the post offered a Lewis phone in the first details of the story. Apparently it was a veteran of 35 years. The book talks about him like a bit of a legend around these parts. Never wrote a word down himself was always phoning it into someone to type it out.

That on his grave it says never wrote a word down. Never wrote a word down. Is the first word to you ever wrote down? Even these, these right now. It's a really bad waiter. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got it. Six scrambled eggs.

So what was, what do you want again? Yeah. I was back to the book. The five men arrested at 2.30 a.m. had been dressed in business suits and all had worn playtics rubber surgical gloves. So this is from the book, but it was all found in from that legend. Alfred E. Lewis. Police had seized a walkie-talkie, 40 rolls of unexposed film,

two 35-millimeter cameras, lock picks, pen size tear gas guns, and bugging devices that apparently were capable of picking up both telephone and room conversations. They found over one, they're ahead of the committee, his, they got there when selling parts of the ceiling were taken off where they were clearly gonna be dropping the bugs. So absolutely caught red-handed.

One of the met, I don't know how important this is, it's not, but one of the men had $814. One had $800, one had $215, one had $234, one had $230, Louis had dictated. The sadness all over the phone. They've already got, what have we got there? Imagine if he just calculated that, his head. Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rooms on the second and third floors of the hotel. The men ate lobster and a restaurant there that night, or at the same table. So there's like a hotel and offices and...

Yeah, it's like a whole bit, it's like six different buildings as I would have said. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's a whole complex. This is a swish, little complex of Washington DC. Yeah, it got you. So they're staying in the hotel part while... Yeah, a lot of big players in politics, especially in the Republican scene, have offices and apartments in there. It's so funny to go have a quick lobster meal

before hitting up a burglary. Yeah. You're gonna feel your body, even eating in the same stuff. It's very difficult to get that. Yeah. I mean, it's either naivety or overconfidence or something, but as you'll hear, you know,

they were arrested soon after. I didn't matter that they were eating lobster, but I guess when they were being pulled out, the lobster chef was like, hey, I served them lobster. You never forget a face you serve lobster too. That's like they're going hey is this risky? I'm eating lobster tonight. It'll be fine. What's going to fuck us up? Is our mate watching a movie? Yeah. But it's a classic puppet people. I mean I wouldn't

miss it. What do you mean that guy being like all right I'll go to jail for the crime that's fine. But if you're going to report in the press, can you at least say it's a wonderful life or something with a bit more respect? I was going with a wind, frankly, my dear. Does that one? Please. Please. I do give it a damn.

Woodward heard from Lewis that they were going to be appearing in court that afternoon. So Woodward went along. That's good. That's smart. That's smart. Go in here stuff. Here at the hearing that hippie would never do that. No, he'd feel the stuff. You go talk to a tree of something.

Yeah. See what the tree knows. Yeah, hug your story away. Good luck. At the plume at the preliminary hearing, it was revealed that one of the men James McCord was a recently retired CIA agent. He said, the judge was going, what do you guys do?

And apparently one of them goes, where anti-communists? And they all sort of nodded? Like yeah, that's right, that's our job. That sounds good. And the judge was, apparently the judge, the way talk about it in the book, they're like, the judge was used to hearing weird jobs, but even to him, that was strange. So he sort of pushed him and then...

And how do you make money? And my cord apparently then goes, well, I used to work as an agent. We're about C-O-A, and apparently Woodward said half a loud, holy shit. The C-O-A, sitting at the said half a loud holy shit. The C-O-A sitting at the back of the courtroom. Everyone turn the round. Shut up.

Come on, it's a crime. There's an spectacular couple people. It's not about an audience game. It's not a pantomind in here, okay? A pantomind. A pantomind. That's where they do it in the mind. The iron ore is behind you. Eight reporters from the poster involved in putting the story

together, including Woodward Bernstein and that old bloody legend Lewis. It ran on the front pages of following day with the opening paragraph reading five men, one of whom said, he's a former employee of the Central Intelligence Agency or arrested at 2.30am. Yesterday, in what authority described as an elaborate plot to bug the officers of the Democratic National Committee here. Sounds like a massive story to me. I'm like, holy shit, this must have exploded everything. But that's just not how it happened. I mean, because I guess I know that it goes this way. I'm like, obviously, this looks like something that goes all the way to the top, but no one was really thinking like that.

Apparently, this is again from the book, the thought that the break-in might somehow be the work of the Republicans seemed implausible. What? Like direct opponents. For some reason, they were like, well, it's obviously not the Republicans, let's cross them off.

So, who, it's obviously not the Republicans, let's cross them off the subject. Who could it be? Some people were like, yeah, this just seems like Andy Communist sort of work. On June the 17th and in part that might have been thought because some of the three of the five added Cuban backgrounds and had worked in anti, what's the old Cuban fellow's name? Castro? Castro. It's a anti-Castro sort of place. The old Cuban fellow. There's still from the book. On June 7, 1972, less than a month before the Democratic Convention, the president stood ahead of all announced

Democratic candidates. So this is why they thought, obviously the Republicans wouldn't be wasting their time with this. Nixon, the president, he was serving his first term, he stood ahead of all announced Democratic candidates in the polls by no less than 19 points. It was just a no contest between him and any of the Democrats. Richard Nixon's vision of an emerging Republican majority that would dominate the last quarter of the century appeared possible. The Democratic Party was in disarray as a brutal primary season approach that's end. Senator George McGuaven of South Dakota, considered by the White House and the Democratic Party professionals

alike to be Nixon's weakest opponent, was emerging as the clear favorite to win the Democrat nomination for president. So, I know there's unfortunate ones where they're like, Nixon's like, oh, that McGovern go wins the Democratic thing because I will beat him. And the Democrats are going, he's a man, or the people who were voting on it. The higher ups of the Democrats apparently will like. This is not good for the election, although Nixon was very popular anyway. The story noted, there was no immediate explanation as to why the five suspects would want to bug the Democratic National Committee officers, or whether or not they were working for any other individuals or organizations. Could have just been some wild cats. College students.

Low and operator. Bit of a prank CIA types. Yeah. I've loaned wolves. Yeah. What was that? What was the air heads band called? Oh.

The loan ranges. The barbed loan ranges. Oh, that doesn't make sense. Outside of the XAA agent McCord, the other four men, Barker's, Durge's, Gonzalez and Martinez were from Miami, and of which three were Cuban Americans, and according to the book, all four have been involved in anti-castro activities, and we're also said to have CIA connections. I don't know what a CIA thing is a big connection with a lot of the people involved.

Yeah. Though it's sort of an almost hints that maybe it goes all the way to the top. Yeah, that would be a bit of a, that would ring a bell for me. In my head, I go, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting, ting,

look into that. I think it seems like back then people just trusted I go, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding opponents. He's just got to keep doing what he's doing and he's going to win. Yeah. I guess maybe if he's always been a little bit dodgy, he thinks this is keeping on doing what he's doing. I bugged everyone else's thing, so I'm going to keep doing it, right? They went Bernstein spoke to Barker's wife, Sabaka, one of the Cubans, Cuban Americans. Bernstein spoke to his wife and asked about her husband's CIA connection. His wife replied, I've never known if he works with a CIA or not. The men never tell the women anything about that. Okay. What do you think? Why would we talk about that? Why would I need to know where my husband works? What a fucking ridiculous question. How? Do you ask him? This is Bernstein the hippie thinking that people

talk their partners about their jobs and their names. Bernstein, I'll be the feminist of this podcast mate. So, engine in on my territory. Yeah. Are the date odd? Yes. Where do you go every day? A comment, all right?

Why are you asking me that? How rude. Does that feel like any of your business? The day after the break in Bernstein and Woodward were asked by the editor, by one of their editors to continue working on the story. That day, they also found out that James McCord was the security coordinator for the committee for the re-election of the president, CRP, later pejoratively known as CREEP. So James McCall, one of the five was the security coordinator for Nixon's committee for re-election. Oh, okay.

That's a very direct connection now to the top. That's what you think, but it's still, no one was really necessarily seeing it that way. According to the book, upon hearing this revelation, the two reporters stood in the middle of the newsroom and looked at each other. What the hell do you think it means, Woodward asked? Bernstein didn't know. Okay. He said, what do you think it means? What do you think it means? Why are you asking? You tell me what you think. And I'll tell you what I said. Then I'll say it together. I don't know. Okay. Okay. Yep.

The same day, Nixon's campaign manager, John Mitchell, issued a statement distancing themselves from McCord. So, it seems like he's pretty closely tied to the president because he's, you know, employed by the re-election committee. But the campaign manager, John Mitchell, said this, the person involved is the proprietor of a private security agency He was employed by our committee months ago to assist with the installation of our security system He has as we understand it a number of business clients and interests and we have no knowledge of these relationships We want to emphasize that this man and the other people involved were not operating on either our behalf or without consent

There is no place in our campaign or in the electoral process for this type of activity And we will not permit or condone it. I like it. I didn't ever say his name this man What was his name like we didn't even bring out the like Greg was a Greg I think Harry I don't know, we're not even breathed. Greg, was it Greg, I think Harry? I don't know. I don't know. Let's just say this, man. All he did was install a security camera.

I mean, I don't really know what he did. I asked him what he did and he said, we don't really talk about that, do you? Yeah. So I moved on, I don't want to be rude. Oh, do you remember the names of every tradesperson? You've ever had any of your hands? Yeah, it's a guy popped in.

I can't. Do you remember the name of every director that works for you? Okay. Come on. It does work with us, sure. How did you hear that? You heard some guy pop there. I can't remember the name of every director that works for you. Okay. Come on. It does work with us short, but he does work with a lot of people.

Have you asked them? If they're president. Whoever they are. Yeah, doubt it. Do your job. I'm actually offended. Yeah. Well, that's sort of front foot stuff.

Yeah, well actually, I think that's just affecting the great work that our boys and girls out there in the CIA or wherever he's connected or not connected to Does not ask not me. I don't know him. What are you even? I've never been another person before. Who are you a person? I haven't seen one. Sit. Oh cool. I haven't even seen a mirror. Do I look like you? Do we look the same? Will we look the same? You're just a death to 2020. Yes. Lisa Kudra, a lot of that kind of energy.

I never said that. A lot of I never said that. That looks that was fine. I was a pretty good fan. That's a good fan. Yeah. I was very tired, I don't know. I was on my phone for a bit.

Yeah, it was fine. I enjoyed it. It felt like it could have been a little bit shorter. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It could have been a half hour thing But I found that was I found the the soccer mom very funny very good and to know who who surprised me Hugh Grant was actually very good very funny. I was like, what's that? Have you have any a sane Paddenton bear? Oh fantastic point. Yeah. No, I haven't seen the second one. Which one's either the bad guy? It must be the second one.

Oh, it must be the second one. So I'll watch that. Yeah, it's very good in that too. Have you not seen Notting Hill? Oh my god, he's so fopish. Oh my goodness. Didn't he played one character for so long? Yeah, yeah, but I did.

And it's sort of really. He nailed it. So for weddings in the funeral, it would be in like, I think that's my favorite film. I saw this film, The Gentleman, if you're saying that, it's like a guy, a richie film one or a few years ago you're saying that, it's like a guy richy film. Yeah. And he plays like a kind of a manipulative, bad guy journalist in that.

And he's, you know, what's it again, it's slightly different. It's probably not miles away from what he played in there, death of 2020. That film had its issues. Just let me say that. Okay. And. And move on. Move on. Yeah. Thank you for saying it had some good points

Thank you for being brave hey, you know, it was missing Dave's man. That's all if I think I richy I in my head I pictured Jason Statham. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's fair. I don't know what he looks like I picture it's been emotional. I was a no thanks Turkish on sweet enough Anyway, how do we get there? Sorry. Sorry to new listeners who have turned off. But look forward to your YouTube comment. Your YouTube comments of trash.

This is trash, you are not funny. No, don't comment, don't listen, I don't care. I'm gonna come to your house, I'm gonna skin you alive. So I'll be deleting that comment right now for you. Yeah, I can't control it when she's like this. I'm gonna have a 10 minute power nap and then I'm gonna murder you. There's only one for the week, so you know what I'm gonna be fresh AF to fuck you up. Okay, I think everyone should take that warning. So, so John Mitchell's basically said,

no, like, yeah, it's not nothing to do with us. That wasn't enough for the Democratic National Chairman, Laurent O'Brien, though, who said that the break-in raised the ugliest question about the integrity of the political process that I've encountered in a quarter of a century of political activity. No's statement of innocence by Mr. Nixon's campaign manager John Mitchell will dispel these questions. Hey, Andy, I think maybe that day or soon after he sued for a million bucks.

Don't know what happened with that. I see him, he got a million bucks. That's it. I'm selling for a million bucks. I'm selling for a million bucks. What a country. Woodward hit the phone's hard. I mean, this is the whole story. And a lot of what I don't talk about is woodward

and Bernstein hitting the phones, traveling all around the country, talking to people who are on the inside and near the inside. Inside adjacent. Inside adjacent. Often on the down low, off record. Oh, they're inside a Jason on the down low.

Yeah, exactly. So he has to get only 10s and he has a different points. Yeah. And that is. All right. That is well, you know, you get a result and see the result. So they, they, they, yeah, that was so much of this story is them just slowly nutting it out over the years. I mean, you get the result.

It's all about it. So Woodward hit the phone hard, chasing up any leads or half leads, speaking to anyone who knew McCord. He started building up a profile on him, deeply religious, a family man, XFBI, XCIA, and despite what Mitchell said, quote, those who knew him agreed that he worked full time for the president's re-election committee. But like it wasn't a secret in his circles, he worked full time. He has seven photos of him with the president.

Yeah. Well, I think they were, yeah, they probably had just a little of a buffer between creep and the president, but, you know, there was, He's not just some dude, Yeah. That like, did you catering? Yeah, exactly.

60 years ago. That's right. Yeah. I don't even remember all the catering. I don't remember. There was some good cannabas that day. Actually, those sandwiches were fantastic. Fantastic.

Salmon and avocado on rye. Wow. I remember that, but I do not remember that man. I've said too much. Interestingly, four of the people would would spoke to describe him as the consummate government man, reluctant to act on his own initiative, respectful of the chain of command, unquestioning

in following orders. And other thing that makes you go, well, it sounds like a guy who wouldn't have acted without people from above telling him he should be. Yeah. Never had an original thought of a life this guy, a really dull fuck honestly. If Nixon told me to do it, all of his jokes, especially next to him, chain emails. That was it. All of his jokes, especially next to him. Especially next tod or whatever his name is. Accurate. What's the record? Oh, there's distracted, so last night when I'm writing this, I had one eye on the cricket and there's a new Melbourne renegades player.

He's like an 18-year-old. And if he gets big, he's going to have the best name in World Cricket. Jake Fraser McGurk. McGur Uh, Jake Fraser McGurk. Mugurk! Jake Fraser McGurk. That is good. And Fraser McGurk, because that's hyphenated. Yeah.

Well, I mean, you've got two great names like that. Yeah, it's good. It's hard to say. But you also think that's one of the greatest names in Cricket. Oh, will be, yeah. Sure. Okay. I mean, who are you thinking?

Shane Moore. Shane Moore. That's a great name. That's a side to the name you could set your watch to. I'm certainly fucking cricketer, I know. I don't know. I can't name one more. Don Bradman. Oh, I've got it.

I'm not a name. Brett Lee. Oh, yeah. I mean, you've named some super boring names. Oh yeah. Compare those to what the name I just said. Yeah, I can't remember it. Shrazen McGurk. Fraser McGurk. Okay. That, yeah. Compare those to what the name I just said. Yeah, I can't remember it. Raise them a good phrase. I'm a good. Okay. That's great. It's all right. I mean,

what was that? What's that AFL play we're talking about? Jaron. Jaron Geary. Science captain. Jaron. What's the other name? Grion Myers. What's the other name? Grion Myers. The parents made it up. I feel like crying. I love it. Crying. Yuck. Jaren. Calling break or something. Break. Break comes into ball. Break.

Break. Well, his dad's name was Brett and his uncle's name was Greg. Greg. So this is actually a beautiful tribute to him. To Brook to out beautiful baby boy break. Where am I? I don't know. How do I get there? I'm like so sorry. You're talking about Mick. Oh yes. Yeah. And that's right. So what was typing up this story, he identified McGurk Greg McCord. Identified McCord and said he was from Creep

and then without asking. So he ended in a first few pages to the editor and then without asking Bernstein sort of looking over his shoulder and he took it and across the room, Woodward's like, my Bernstein's taking my pages and taking to his desk and he started typing and he's like, hang on, he's rewriting my story and he said he was afraid of this anyway, he had a reputation for sort of moving in on people's

stories and putting his byline on it. The vulture, yeah. Then he went over and he read the rewritten version and he was like, oh no, it's better. Oh crap. Oh damn. That's really, really good. So I guess, yeah, it felt like maybe the, I don't think they were ever like full best mates around him, but I think they started, they definitely respected each other more and they were both integral, equally integral and bringing this whole story to light. In the early hours of the following morning, Woodward received a call from the post-night police reporter Eugene Pekinski. According to the book,

Pekinski had something from one of the police sources of his to address books, blowing to two of the Miami men at rest inside the audience. So they also on them had address books with a lot of details. One of them contained the name and phone number of a Howard E Hunt with the small notations W House and WH. If you can correct them. Hang on, give me a sec. Oh, who's house? Oh, I was thinking of like, you know how they sometimes call toilets wash closets?

Oh, yeah. I was in King Wash House. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Great. So is it like a direction tour, like the closest public toilet in case they needed to use the facilities? Yeah, did they have IBS, so they needed to keep track of toilets? Yeah, I think I don't know. This is before toilet apps.

You gotta remember that. Yeah, now there's so many toilet apps to choose. I mean, everyone's got multiple toilet apps. Yes, I've got a lot of them. I mean, what is this smartphone, except a giant thing for toilet app information? And then to look at while you're on the toilet. Exactly, you look at where your next toilet's gonna be.

If you plan your stop, yeah. You stop at one, you know what you're going next. You know me, I'm a planner. I'm a burger, we play. I'll piss in about 46 minutes. So one to a two, go to two and one. So each of them, that honestly that is almost as dumb as let's call her L Simpson. No, that's too obvious. How about Lisa S? Yeah, so I guess they were not thinking about it being found, I guess.

They were not planning it all on being busted. But I mean, why not just go plan? Why not just write White House? Yeah, I can write WS. Yeah, it's a good point. So Woodward, go ahead. Well, that's interesting. I'll try and call this guy.

He found a listing for Howard Hunt in Potomac, Maryland, an affluent horse country suburb of Montgomery County, but there was no answer. I mean, it was late at night, this is the middle of the night. So he went back to the office following day and continued to try and track down this mysterious Howard Hunt from W. House. Woodward called an old friend of his who worked for the federal government. His friend said that he couldn't talk long but that the Watergate case was going to heat up before hanging out. Oh hot waterhouse. Watergate. Woodward tried chasing down Howard Hunt by calling the White House. He thought maybe this

W house could be the White House. Let's try, Roll the Dice. Hello, one house is a use. And that's what he did, he just called the White House. And it sent, there's something that I noticed through this book as well, was a lot of places were like, you'd call them and they'd give you information. The White House, he caught one point, I don't think I go through it,

but he called the library at the White House and it's like, I need to know this guy works there, what books he has taken out. And they gave him, there's also any else more questions and then they call back later and said, hey, I probably shouldn't have said, that's stuff that I said. Oh no.

And then later I went, I never said that stuff to you. No, it's sort of, yeah, it's just a way more trusting time. So he's collecting information bit by bit, phone call after phone call. The operator at the White House couldn't locate, huh? But he just called the White House and said, I work for the paper, give you fine, hunt. They all can't find him, and then they went before they hung out there. Actually, there's one other place he might be in Mr Colson's office.

And then they tried, but Mr Colson's secretary gave Woodward the number for a PRFM said he's not in at the moment, but he also does some work at this PRFM. You should call him there. Like real open with information like that. Woodward asked an assistant editor who Colson was. Who's this Colson guy? Charles W. Colson, special counsel to the president of the United States, was the White House hatchet man the reply came.

It was like muscle, you know, it was the fixer kind of guy or the finisher. Who in West Wing would that be? Hard to say. Yeah, I'd done yeah. I almost quoted West Wing like on air on radio the other day. Yeah. Because I was talking about the 25th Amendment in the news. And I was like, yes, like how the president gets shot

in the West Wing and he has to sign the 25th, he has to sign papers saying the vice president is in control. I understand it. Can you beat your tongue, dude? Yeah, I did. You should have said it. I should have said it. And I didn't know I regret it every day. So this Colson guy, this hatchet man, was talked about by an

anonymous quote a year earlier in a article in the post with the quote, as one of the original backroom boys, the brokers, the guys who fix things when they break down and do the dirty work when it's necessary. That's who they described, Colson as an anonymous source, which was published a year earlier. So he's going, okay. So he's connected, he's working with this guy, he's connected to this Baccheroan boy, regional Baccheroan boy. So within a few days of the break in the journalists had connected one of the burglars, McCord, to the Republican National Committee,

and now connected the burglars to Hunt and Hunt to Colson. Colson being the backroom boy. I mean, I'm with you. Yeah, I'm following. So if they're not connecting the dots all the way up to the top, they're getting a fair way up there. Yeah. And people.

And people that are just like, oh yeah, sure, I'll send you a, when do you want this medical record sent? Yeah. Sure. You want the president's personal journal? I don't see why. Yeah, I'm just, I'll get him to send it over himself.

He'll drop it over. Nick sees like, oh, go. All right, well, oh, that was a good Nick sent. Was that a good Nick? I want to try one later when I quote him. Okay, cool. It's Bayer's John Futurama. Okay, yeah.

His head in a jar of Futurama. Oh, that's right. Woodward dialed the number for the PR agency and asked for Hunt. How the exchange went down again comes from the book. Quite a fan of this quick exchange. And I'm going into a bit more detail about their hunt for details early. And I sort of start skimming over things soon because this goes on for years. This is day after day and we're only in the first week. So he calls this PR firm and the voice answers, how would hunt here? Woodward

says, how woodward from the... Hey, what's up, and woodward? Woodward from the Washington Post hunt replied, yes, what is it? Woodward asked hunt wise name and phone number were in the address books of two of the men arrested at the Watergate. How it hunt replied, good God. No.

Oh crap. I definitely shouldn't have said that. Howard Hunt replied, come on. Woodward phone, Robert Bennett, to ask about hunt. Bennett was the president of the public relations firm that he was working at and hunt was at. And also the son of a Republican senator. Bennett replied, I guess there's no secret that Howard was with the CIA. That had been a secret to Woodward. So it's just another guy's in their XCIA. He then called the CIA where he found out that Hunter had been with them from 49 to 70, so 21 years. And again, they just gave that information. The central intelligence agency. Not so smart.

So is another two C-I-A in the five? Yes. What? No, Hunt was in the book. He wasn't one of the burglars, but he's connected. Oh, okay, gotcha, gotcha, but connected back to it. Yeah. I can't believe you could just call the C-I-A back then and ask for info about their

agent. Let's try it out. It's interesting because in some ways it makes sense. You're like, they're working for us. It's a public thing. I need a report about it. Shouldn't I be able to know? But yeah, you go, and that does put some,

surely that puts some things at risk and privacy and all that sort of things as well. Sort of like, you know, the Australian parliament was built so that the lawn meant that you could basically walk on top of parliament. And you know, the Australian parliament was built so that the lawn meant that you could basically walk on top of parliament. And, you know, the people who were above parliament, the politicians will always remember, you know, it's symbolic. If I'm remembering this right. Yeah. And then a couple of years ago, they put up a fence. So they could do that even more. They could close it off for security reasons. Yeah. So you sort of go, wow, I

kind of get that, yeah, maybe there'd be security reasons, but also it is It's the parliament house where yeah, it's it's a curious thing Do you think how often do you think politicians get told I pay your wages? As much as people who are for true J. Oh, no, that actually has never happened to me there But it happened to me working at a call center one time. I pay your What I was like, I don't think you do, mate. I bought a dishwasher, I pay your work. It wasn't even a, yeah, it wasn't even like a call center

call center, anyway. Yeah, it was like a, it's a multi million dollar, I think now billion dollar company in Australia. That's fine, I'll pay your work. And it's one customer who'd placed a couple of ads was like, I pay your wage, they're like, I don't think you do, mate. Wait, hang on.

Are you Greg and a counts? Yeah. I can't agree. I've finally put a voice to the name. Thanks for always. Pay it on time. So yeah, so now we know Hans is guy at the CAA. Woodward then spoke to an unnamed source who was high up in a government agency, unclear who, and they confirmed that Hunt was involved.

Though the source only gave information on the understanding that he couldn't be quoted even anonymously, and this source would later be known as deep throat. If you remember, here is one of the sort of the famous parts of this story, but I'll get into their relationship a little bit later. keep through it. If you remember, here is one of the sort of the famous parts of the story, but I'll get into their relationship a little bit later. But it runs out, runs throughout. Woodwood is continuously meeting on and off with him, and that classic sort of way, and a car park, smoking a cigarette. I think it's probably where a lot of tropes have come from. And at least from the movie version of this story.

They even have a character in X-Files, you remember, called Deepthro in the first season. Yeah, exactly. Meeting him, like, in front of, like, the Lincoln Memorial or something at 3am. Yes. Both wearing black trench coats. And the Simpson's, Boof at a bit.

Yeah, where were the Smithers? Where were the Smithers? He's not going to give them away, and then, I mean, just blast blasting with the lights. Had lights on. The post published another story. This one titled White House Consultant Link to Bugging Suspects. Flows off the time.

Beautiful. The morning the story came out. Presidential press secretary. Now you probably. CJ. CJ, yes, great. But this time, it wasn't CJ, this before CJ got the job.

Oh, yeah, I mean, it's 70, two was a baby. Ronald Ziegler. Sounds like it wasn't there. Toby Ziegler. Yeah. Yeah. So I wonder that's probably not a coincidence. They probably named him off from, I guess. So the president, press secretary, Ronald Ziegler was asked a question about the break-in. He replied dismissively saying,

certain elements may try to stretch this beyond what it is before describing the incident as a third-rate burglary attempt that did not warrant further White House comment. There's no big deal. I mean, they might be trying to draw some conclusions that aren't there. God, Slian, Dale something. Look for you guys.

We're not gonna waste that time. You're a joke. You're a joke. You're a joke. You're a joke. Get out. Get out of my press gallery or whatever this room's called. I should know that.

Make a note. Let me check that. Get back to you in our briefs after that. I'll take that notice. I'll take that notice. See you back here at four o'clock. With a better attitude. Yeah, but you, you better of fucked off. The current one, Kaylee McAnany's attitude

and back of all, with the presses genuinely, almost that end, taking this to the... Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah, right. If you would report the truth in your papers, it's very... Wow. I mean, that is what she's asking.

That feels like... That's reasonable. That's reasonable. Yeah, and as a generalist, I think that probably what should be happening. Yeah, and if that's not what's happening, I imagine she would be... What's being reported then? Fike things. Lame- three media star

Okay, I'm not fake news. What? Honestly that does that fiction. It does so when fake news is reported According to a later report in the Washington Post quote the next day Nixon and chief of staff HR Halderman privately discussed how to get the CIA to tell the FBI to back off from the burglary investigation. Nixon's in it. He's in it. But they're just denying, denying, denying. Always a good move, I think. Yes. Denied, denied, denied. So what has he done? He's having private discussions about how to cover it all off and also getting the FBI to back off.

via the CIA. Right. Can you call the FBI to the back off? Please, I don't listen when I call the... I was just a little bit grey and grey. Excuse me. He's kind of me. Grey from a count? Yes. He never pays me on time. The president's like an impatement. How much does the president make?

Like half a million dollars a year? Yeah, they get paid, like, well for a normal person, but not well for, like, a real famous person. They're so famous. Kanye would get more for sure. He'd be taking a pay card if he got that gig. What about, like... He's probably glad he didn't.

What about now? Like, is Obama set full? Because he can't get a job, Kenny. They make so, I think it's like a lot of positive. It makes so much on speaking to us and like deal. We'll feel Netflix deal. Yeah, just. Michelle's got the Spotify deal.

No, they do have a gravy train anyway, but then they can cash in on all sorts of things. Cause they do have like some sort of pension though, don't they? Yeah, yeah. They'll never have to work in that of its stuff forever or thing. I think they did a $50 million book deal So they probably a cream on top. Yeah, they're probably all right then. Yeah, you have been wearing is that way I mean sleeping? Yeah, I'm so worried about Barack Obama

Somebody you think of the Obama let's wrap this up so I can go to bed He invested well Because in my mind he didn't exist until he was president. Yeah. So it's like, you've got like four years man, maybe eight. You only wait for four years man. What about Trump? Where was he before this?

Is he having any money? I don't know. Is he planned well? I'm pretty sure it would almost, there'd be maybe nearly no exceptions where it wasn't a pay cut to become president. Yeah, wow. So normally rich people get the gig. They have to be in some way to speak very naively from the other side of the world.

But yeah, I believe that to be true. What if you step up for Joe Biden because he's been a senator, I imagine a president gets a true, more or a sender. Yeah, that's a good point. But even senators, aren't they not like often from wealth and they have lots of Money and stuff. I think he's the first non-Ibi league All right, yes, I'm always saying it was it was noteworthy these catholic. Yeah, I saw that too Since

Interesting what JFK was the first yeah, and I think it was at the time that was like controversial. Wow. Yeah. And I did see it noted that he was Catholic and I was like, okay. Yeah. I can't say I think about Catholic. Catholicism must be more mainstream here or something. I believe so, yeah.

Because I think a lot of our prime ministers have been Catholic. Maybe it's more on the labours side. Is that the classic thing? Anyway, we can make side track where we'd so be in. Sorry. Oh, follow. That's funny. It's like, we don't, our kind of Christianity doesn't like their slightly different kind of Christianity. So at the press conference on the afternoon of June 22, President Nixon made his first public comment about the incident saying, the White House has no involvement whatsoever,

and this particular sort of, I mean, that was Bernie Sanders doing Donald Duck. But I loved it. Closer than my Donald Duck on whatever reason. Yeah, that was close to your Donald Duck than your genuine attempt at a Donald Duck. Why was that Donald? I was on a Patreon program but I was on a Patreon.

Yeah, it definitely works. You haven't a crack. Bernstein and Woodward both found the phrasing in this particular incident interesting. They're like, not a weird way to phrase it. Say it again, but not in a dumb voice. The White House has no involvement, whatever, in this particular incident.

In this particular incident. But what's that? Oh, we've got involvement in other incidents. Of course. Which makes sense. And is it phrased like this? There's no involvement. Whatever. Yeah, that's how it sounds. Despite still working hard on the story and feeling like it was a big one around a month later, according to the book, the Watergate story had stalled. Maybe even died. The reporters could not understand why. They're like, this is a big thing, but it was just getting sort of squashed from inside the government. They were getting the CIA to stop the FBI investigating and also just sort of stopping people talking a bit and the pressure was on to get it spot on.

But the higher ups even at the Washington Post who did seem to believe in the story were starting to move on as well. Despite Bernstein's protests, he was made to go back to reporting on what he was doing before this, Virginia state politics. And at the same time, wood was doing before this, Virginia state politics. And at the same time, Woodward was like,

I'm taking a vacation. Yeah, you know what, you need a break. It's been full on for a little bit, but I... I'm gonna go sit in a beach, you know, have a cocktail. Yeah, Mack, it's so... Oh, run. Take me there. No.

Take me with you, Woodward. It's my holiday. It's my holiday, me, with you woodwood. It's my holiday. It's my holiday me, Mr Woodwood. I'm going to say Bob. Bob Woodwood. Bob. On the day that Woodwood left on his vacation, another key player in the scandal would come into the frame.

This happened when quote, the Long Island afternoon paper Newsday, which is another one that seemed to be in on the story, not a lot of the mainstream media seemed to be in it as much as Washington Post's line-stream. But a few, I think the New York Times seems to have been in it a bit, and Newsday, but it does seem like the Washington Post was the biggest player. Anyway, when the Long Island afternoon paper Newsday reported that the former White House aide named Gordon Liddy, who had been working as a lawyer for the campaign committee, had been fired by John Mitchell in June for refusing to answer FBI questions about Watergate. I was like, oh, is this Liddy guy? Gordon Liddy, interesting.

Three days later, the high ups at the post called Bernstein back said, stories ago again. The only three days later, they had to break for, the New York Times had a story linking Liddy to one of the burglars, Bernad Barker, and things were heating up again. Is Woodward on holiday? Yeah, Woodward's on holiday, so he's about to come back on. Well, all right.

I guess we're doing it again. Through all of this, the FBI were also conducting their own investigation, although it sounds like CIA were not making that easy, but they were supposedly having a wide-ranging investigation of their own. I am focusing a bit more on the journalist's investigation because it is probably better documented because they wrote a book about it. And that's the document that I'm mainly using.

Anyhow, the work they'd been doing meant that Woodward and Bernstein and the FBI had now identified two co-conspirators in the burglary, Hunt and Leedy. The investigation took Bernstein down to Miami, where it was collaborating with an investigator employed by a Miami district attorney. This is one of the many leads. He's bouncing all the way around the country. One thing they talk about a bit in the book is that he has this ability to always make his plane, but he always gets there at the nick of time. He's always stressful. He's always dashing onto the plane at the last second. And that's what he did on this time as well when he went down to Miami. When he was down there working with this investigator, they found a $25,000 check which he was able to connect to CREEP with one of the

burglar's Bernard Barker. So directly from one of the burglar's to the committee for the re-election. $25,000. And how did he find this check with you? He's walking to a bank and say hello. $25,000. And how did you find this check with these walking door back and say hello? And he checks the cash in any of these people's names lately and that's so please try this one of these. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just check out the back. Yeah, I want to see the vault.

Here's a key. Yeah, go. We're going to go out the back. Drop them back when you're down there. Okay. We've only got 18 copies of that key. We're about to go for a sandwich. This was, he was working with an investigator

who was working with a Miami district attorney. So they had some ins to get information that they needed, even you know, in need. So into the vault of the bank. Yeah, with the case. This was the first time the post was able to directly link the burglary and the Nixon campaign funds.

They also found evidence of many more tens of thousands of dollars being involved. The following day on August 1st, the post published a story titled Bug Suspect got campaign funds. Part of the article reads, the check was made out by a Florida bank to Kenneth H. Dullberg, the president's campaign finance chairman for the Midwest, so very directly linking to the campaign finance there. Dullberg said that last night that in early April, he turned the check over to the treasurer of the committee for the re-election of the president, or to Moris Stands himself. Stands are the guy, another one of the committee for the re-election of the president, or to Moris Stands himself. Stands

are the guy, another one of the big players, I don't talk about him too much, but he's like one of the money men. He's holding a lot of this cash, this secret sort of slash-fun cash. Stands form a secretary of commerce under Mr. Nixon is now the finance chief of the president's re-election effort. Dalberg said he didn't have the vagus idea how the check got into the bank account of the real estate firm owned by a burn at Barker, one of the break-in suspects, and stands could not be reached for comment. According to a court testimony by government prosecutors, Barker's bank account, in which

the 25 grand was deposited, was the same account from which Barker later withdrew a large number of $100 bills. About 53 of these $100 bills were found on the five men after they were arrested at Watergate. So I guess that's why it was important that they were those sequentially noted bills because they were able to trace them directly now through the re-election fund. That was basically, it sort of shows pretty clearly that the campaign funds paid them to do this bugging

and it goes all the way to the top. A lot of the money, no, no, are you being saying that from the start? Well, you know, I've got a little bit of haunts right up my sleeve. You should have been there, man. You got to crack this baby white open. Yeah, I've been cracked and open. Yeah, it's interesting. A lot of haunts. I don't miss it. You should have been there, Matt. You got to crack this baby water. I've got to crack it open.

Yeah, it's interesting. A lot of this money they would be sending it down in Mexico. They had this Mexican guy put in a bank account and then sending it back up. And that was how they were helping launder it. But in this instance, it was just a check. Ah, yes.

That's easily traceable. So that's not like they didn't do too much to cover their tracks. No, amazing. God damn it. Well Matt, this is an absolute riveting tale, but would you mind by interrupt you just for one moment? Please. I've got to tell you and the good people at home that this week's episode is brought to them by Express VPN.

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being keep planners in it all as well. According to the book, the seven men were charged with as many as eight separate counts each, all related to conspiracy, burglary, and the federal wiretapping statute prohibiting electronic interception of oral communications. Bernstein and Woodward were despondent. The charges didn't go further and didn't take down anyone high up the chain. Despite mounting evidence, they're like, this is all small stuff. Why aren't they, like the break-in was big news and that kicked it all off, but it wasn't the biggest thing what it revealed was when all the way to the top. Okay, so you keep saying that, but I'm still not entirely sure what it means.

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He didn't tell anyone. He's literally meeting him in a car park. Yes. And this is how it all went down. This was their system. His identity was unknown to anyone else. He could be contacted only on very important occasions. Woodward had promised he would never...

It was birthday. Yeah never... He's birthday. Yeah, birthday. Yeah. Most public holiday. He wanted a penalty rate. Yeah, I don't blame him. So Woodward had promised he would never identify him or his position to anyone.

And further, he had agreed never to quote the man even as an anonymous source. That was always, you know, that's underlying all the time. The discussions would be only to confirm information that had been obtained elsewhere and to add some perspective. So it's basically just got this guy who knows the whole story pretty much. And if you go to him, you say, is this right? And he goes say, yeah, you're on the right track.

Keep looking in this way. Yeah. Follow the money. That sort of stuff. Yeah. So he's these this way. Yeah, follow the money, that sort of stuff. Yeah. See these cat tracers? Yeah. Boom, bingo.

You got it. You're right here. Stepping on this cigarette. Yeah. Hey, bad, bad, bad, bad. You're too low. Better up. And you're like, I'm sorry, you've lost me at that one.

Let me just say Woodward, strike three. What does that mean? I don't know. All right, I'll call Babe Root. Yeah. Am I in trouble or something? It goes on in the book to say, in newspaper terminology, the fact that he wouldn't be quite or anything, it meant that the discussions were a deep background,

that's what it was known as. Woodward explained the arrangement to the managing editor Howard Simons one day. He had taken to calling a source my friend. That's what Woodward was going, my friend told me, my friend agrees, that's it. You all right, we get it, Woodward, you got a friend. Okay, not all of us are so lucky, all right. But Simmons dubbed him Deep Throat, the title of a celebrated pornographic movie and the name stuck.

A celebrated pornographic. Really, celebrated. The user is a big black, it was a mainstream box office here at the time. Right. Which was, but it was pornographic. Well, this is the golden age pornography. Oh yeah. And I guess he's just taken deep background Deep throat. I'm sorry. He's done Initially the two spoke only over the phone, but soon deep throat said it wasn't safe to do that anymore and said if they were to talk in person If they were to talk it had to be in person The book continues deep throat didn't want to use the foreign even to set up the meetings. He suggested that

Woodward would open the drapes in his apartment as a signal. Deepthroat could check each day if the drapes were open, the two would meet that night. But Woodward liked to let the sun in at time and suggested another signal. Yeah, that does make sense. I've got plants, man. You can tell his family not to open the drapes under any sex sense. Funny that you say he's got plants, because that's what he used.

Instead, when Woodward had an urgent inquiry to make, he would move a flower pot with a red flag to the rear of his balcony. During the day, deep throat would check to see if the pot had been moved. If it had, he and Woodward would meet at around 2am in a pre-designated underground parking garage. Woodward would leave his six-four apartment and walk down the back stairs into an alley. Walking and taking two or more taxes to the garage, he could be reasonably sure that no one had followed him. In the garage, the two could talk

for an hour or more without being seen. So that was the system. That makes me anxious. Yeah. And it really was a similar sort of thing again in X files. He puts an X. And he tapes a black X in the window when he wants to meet. Wow. The molder puts the, yeah, that's his signal. And then he puts a lamp over it.

So it's quite obvious here. Yeah. So it's similar. Again, that feels like that's probably where it's it came from So it sounds like that's complicated anyway, right? But walking and taking tour more taxis Was the best case scenario if taxis were hard to find as they often were at night It might take woodwood almost two hours to get there on foot Which you have to do somebody just at that two hour walk. I mean he'd always have four hour round trip He'd always have to leave two hours just to get there on foot, which you have to do sometimes. You just have to two hour walk. I mean, he'd always have to. Four hour round trip.

He'd always have to leave two hours just to get together. Yeah, so I believe at midnight, just in case, I guess. Does he have a family? I don't think so. Just going out for another four hour walk. I would have left him. I wouldn't have left him after the second walk.

P.S. baby, clip those streaks close. Frustratingly, on two occasions, the meeting had been set, and then the man had not shown up. A depressing and frightening experience as Woodward had waited for more than an hour, alone in an underground garage in the middle of the night. And one occasion he thought he'd been,

he was being followed as well, he was shitting himself. Oh my God. This is from the book still. If Deepthroat wanted a meeting on the other hand, which was rare, but did happen sometimes, there was a different procedure. Each morning Woodward would check page 20 of his New York Times delivered to his apartment house before 7am.

If a meeting was requested, the page number would be circled, and the hands of a clock indicating the time of the rendezvous would appear in a lower corner of the page. Woodward did not know how deep throat got to his paper, but he did. He just, he was the White House paperboy. He was the paperboy. All the way to the top. Paperboy sits just above. President.

President. According to Britannica, with deep throat's help, Woodward and Bernstein kept up a steady stream of scoops demonstrating since I'm skipping through a lot of stuff here. The direct involvement of Nixon's intimits, which is I think what they may need to say, close allies in Watergate activities. No, it's his underwear.

What is he wearing? He's wearing J-strings. Nixon's underwear was involved in Watergate activities. They're all, they're cruel, gonna go. They're all the cruel congoal. But they're all gonna wear my G-Bass. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. They also found that the Watergate wiretapping and break-in had been financed through a legally lauded campaign

contributions. And in a blockbuster, October 10th, front page article, that the Watergate bugging incident stemmed from a massive campaign of political spying and sabotage conducted on behalf of President Nixon's re-election and directed by officials of the White House, part of a, quote, basic strategy of the Nixon re-election effort. This article, this huge bombshell, what seemingly bombshell article, was titled FBI Finds Nixon Aid, Sabotage Democrats.

I'll catch you on. And I went on to say, intelligence work is normal during a campaign and is said to be carried out by both political parties. But federal investigators said what they uncovered being done by the Nixon forces is unprecedented in scope and intensity. They said it included following members of Democratic candidates families and assembling dossiers on their personal lives, forging letters and distributing them under the candidates' letterheads, leaking false and manufactured items to the press, throwing campaign schedules in a disarray, seizing confidential campaign

files, and investigating the lives of dozens of Democratic campaign workers. In addition, investigators said that the activities included planting provocateurs in the ranks of organizations expected to demonstrate at the Republican and Democratic conventions. There was a big team. There were people across the country working in amongst it. But amazingly, this story, this huge bombshell story didn't create that much havoc at all. As the election campaign, and this is all like in the closing stages of an election campaign, you'd be like, well, that's going to hurt Nixon. No. But as the election campaign continued

to ramp up, not many other media outlets were really following the case, apart from some of those ones I was talking about before. And the White House continued to attack the post coverage as biased and misleading from a liberal newspaper, making out like the post was basically working for the Democratic election campaign. Fake news, lame, fake media, that sort of stuff. And I think not the speaker, the spokes, what was his name? The press secretary. Press secretary. I think he was, he was pretty much on the front foot with all that sort of stuff.

In the run up to election day Bernstein and Woodward were looking forward to it being all over there. Like we just want to get this election out of the way now. They are increasingly frustrated running into one stone wall after another as they got closer the election insiders weren't talking to them much anymore. Though multiple suggested they would open up again after Nixon's inevitable election victory which he seemed to be cruising towards. None of the stories published by the posts seemed to make a dent in the Nixon campaign. The general public loved him and trusted him so much so that amongst the posts coverage,

an election-eaved poll showed respondents overwhelmingly trusted Nixon over Democratic candidate and opponent George McEvan. That's so funny because now post 50 years later, I don't know about you guys, but I think of him. Imagine him as so untrustworthy. Yeah, absolutely. He had a corruption. But like, he was really, really popular. Yeah, so popular. And trusted. Amazing. The White House's insistent that the post was quietly working for G-Magavan's campaign must have frustrated Woodward. Because according to the book, Woodward was a registered Republican.

But he did not vote in this election. He couldn't decide whether he was more uneasy with the disorganization and naive idealism of McGalvin's campaign or with Richard Nixon's conduct. No, funny. I don't know. This McGalvin guy, he seems to be a bit idealist. And Nixon, who I know is super dodgy. I don't want to vote for a reason. So it's tough. One of them is disorganized.

Gotta remember that. So equally bad. Oh yeah. There's bad people on both sides. And he believed that not voting enabled him to be more objective in reporting on Watergate, which I think maybe that makes sense to me on some level. But that view Bernstein regarded as silly. Bernstein voted for the government unenthusiastically and unhesitatingly. Then bet in the office pool that Nixon would win with 54%. He's like, it's going to be a strong win to Nixon. And Nixon did go on to win the 1972 election, but with an even bigger landslide. He won. Guess how many of the states he won? Um, more than 12.

Yes, for sure. Well, this could be slower than I was expecting. 34, 49. Wow. What? Holy shit. McGulvin only won Massachusetts. I'm like, well, I was looking at the map.

I'm like, whoa, it's just a full red map with this little blip of blue on the, I was gonna say top right, the North East. That was amazing. But I mean, in the popular vote, it was 47 million to 29 million. Huge. It's about 60, bit over 60 percent, much like this topic one in a landslide. According to the book, the self-confidence that flowed from the electoral triumph had emboldened

the president's men. The post-election offensive was led by Charles Colson, who we talked about before, the 41-year-old former Marine Corps captain and White House commandant on political warfare. About a week after the election, Colson travelled to Maine to address the New England Society of Newspaper editors. He opened the speech by noting that his home state, Massachusetts, was the only one that had gone for George McGalvin. The president he joked had decided to mend some fences and locate a new federal installation

in Massachusetts and nuclear waste disposal center in Harvard Square, a bit of a funny joke there. Assuring his audience that the first amendment is alive in Well in Washington, which one's that? That free speech? No, that'll shout not. You know the 25th, you don't know the first? Well, the 25th is different.

And it came up in the news this week. Mint. Okay, let's see here. Here we go. First amendment, the old first. No, no, no. Played in the first, so fifth is where you don't have to talk, I think. Yeah, I'm playing the first. I'm playing the first. So fifth is where you don't have to talk, I think.

Yeah, I'm currently so. Um, it protects freedom of speech. That's the first. Oh, yeah. Um, yes. So he was assuring his audience at the first. Amendment is a live and well in Washington. He accused the post of McCarthyism and called Bradley, the self-appointed leader of that

tiny little fringe of arrogant elitists, or Bradley, sorry, is one of the posts. He's another key player that Harley mentioned, but he's one of the big dogs at the post. Gotcha. He calls Bradley, the self-appointed leader of that tiny little fringe of arrogant elitists who affect the healthy mainstream of American journalism with their own peculiar view of the world. And my best friend. I love him.

He says, and the rest of the country isn't just sitting out here waiting to be told what they're supposed to think. It's funny, it's like it's stuff that you're still here all the time now still. We, you know, this is all fake news kind of stuff. Well, we know Colson Newy was talking shit as well because he knew that a lot of their stories or their stories were basically all spot on. But he was saying, oh, flies. There's probably a leader's over here. The journalists were frustrated, obviously, but not deterred in their investigation, continued in earnest.

They spoke to many more keen outsiders and continued to break the case open. I won't go into all the details of all these people. There's so many. There was a bookkeeper who was big key partner. She gave a lot of great info and there was someone on, they were talking to someone in a jury at one point who they weren't really meant to and they got in a bit of trouble, but that's okay, not too much trouble. Anyway, I'm not going into any of that.

So, the audio book of all the president's man is great. The voice actor and it's great, he's got it. He's got a big, slightly gravely American voice. And he does a slight Nixon. He doesn't go full Nixon Nixon like I can and do. Well that's the thing I think it's about knowing your limitations. Yeah. And if you can't go full Nixon, don't go full Nixon. Yeah. No. So that audio book goes for about 10 hours and I at one point I'm like,

oh if I just keep summarizing all of it so will our episode. It's already probably going to be a long-shoot one. But anyway, yeah, so definitely recommend listening to that. And there's a movie of that as well with people with Kane. We're pretty hot cast. Oh, anyhow, one key player I will talk about is a judge named John Syracad. He was the one who didn't know. He sort of told him off a bit for talking about Jura. But he didn buh, buh, buh. But he didn't sell him out. Noughty. So he was the chief judge of the United States District Court for the District of Columbia.

According to Britannica, the trial of the five arrested burglars, say it was the judge in this case, and two accomplices began in federal court less than two weeks before Nixon's second term inauguration. The relatively narrow indictment on charges of burglary, conspiracy and violation of federal wiretapping laws itself spoke to the success of the White House in containing the scandal. This is what frustrated the journalists, they're like, these charges are such small time for what.

This is just the tiny tip of the iceberg sort of thing. The presiding judge, John J. Syracer, however, kept badgering defendants and witnesses on matters not covered in the indictment, namely the financial and institutional involvement of the White House and the re-election campaign. It sounds like I don't know how ethical or how I think he was sort of using his court to almost have his own investigation, which wasn't directly linked to it. So, I don't, yeah, I imagine that would have annoyed many people as well, but he helped crack this thing wide open. Except for Lidian McCord, all the defendants played a guilty, and after a 16-day trial, Lidian McCord were also found guilty. Britannica goes on to say that the judges tactics landed a

big win when he was handed an extraordinary letter by McCord prior to sentencing saying in the letter he explained that the defendants had been pressured to plead guilty and purge themselves about the involvement of higher ups on March 23, Syracco read the letter in open court. So this is now McCord, this ex-CEIA guy, who's the government man, he's gone. He's confessed, basically. And let's say we've been thrown under the bus, but this is bigger than what is going on here. In the meantime, the Senate had voted 77 to nothing to set up a special investigating

committee looking into abuses in the 1972 presidential campaign. The committee was to be overseen by a well-respected conservative North Carolina Democrat Samuel Irvin Jr. North Carolina should not have mentioned that but they do have blue fire in here. Yes. Sorry for new listeners, that's just a fun fact I like to drop in when North Carolina comes up. And I should double check it. I never have.

With impending indictments of many of his top aides, Nixon announced the result to his own investigation. Okay. Well, you know what? You know, it's interesting. I've been investigating for a while now and I didn't find anything Oh my god, and if anything actually found out that my pain is above average Yeah, I found as big of an even I thought even I thought I was be very humble about it apparently and I also found two dollars in an old jacket

I've been investigating all pockets Case closed I was getting a conference case closed. No, it's not that far off. I never am. His own investigation found no one in this administration, but presently employed was involved in this very bizarre incident. Honestly, it's weird. I don't even understand it.

It's so weird, but it's certainly none of us were involved. And I did a pretty thorough investigation to figure that out. According to Britannica on April 17th, presidential spokesman Ziegler infamously told the press that all previous White House statements about Watergate were now quote, inoperative. Sort of like saying, not canon anymore, I guess. It's a strange thingative. It's an inoperative. It's an inoperative. It's an inoperative. It's an inoperative. It's an inoperative. It's an inoperative. It's an inoperative.

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He also helped break this thing. What open? His two closest aides, his chief of staff, Halderman and John D. N. Rolickman and Attorney General Richard Klein dynast. Nixon protested his- I won, Dynast, I clined dynast. Nixon protested his own in a synonymous cooperation with future investigations,

even while including legalistic language that implied strong limits to that cooperation. I see, sorry, these other people, they've resigned. And he's, well, we got rid of the bad apples. Yeah, it's just slowly throwing more people under the bus. And yeah, it does have that kind of feel like he's going, you know, he's in a hot air balloon and he's running out of sandbags to drop. Yeah, he's about to hit the ground.

He's going to have to dump himself eventually. This is what he said. This is a bit long to do his voice. I'll start off and then I'll go into a mutual Matt accent. I want to talk to you, and I'm about my heart. There'd been an effort to conceal the facts both from the public from you and from me. I wanted to be fair. Today in one of the most difficult decisions of my presidency, I accepted the resignations of two of my closest associates, Bob Holderman and John Andrew O'Lachman, two of the finest public servants that has been my privilege to know. The easiest course would be me to blame those who I delegated the responsibility

to run this campaign. But that would be the cowardly thing to do. Brackets on the hero. In any organization, the man at the top must bear the responsibility. Wait, hang on, is he going to, sounds like he's going to resign? No, it's still very much sounding like he's saying, I didn't know what they were up to. But he's going to be saying he's bearing the responsibility. That means I guess, ultimate responsibility. Yeah, okay. Good.

So, you know, this is all solved. So, as my responsibility to accept their resignation. Yeah, I think that's basically that responsibility, therefore, belongs here in this office. I accept it. It was the system that has brought the facts to light. A system that in this case has included accept it. It was the system that has brought the facts to light. A system that in this case has included a determined grand jury, honest prosecutors, a courageous judge, John Syracco, and vigorous, free press. I must now turn my full attention once again to the

larger duties of this office. I owe it to this great office that I hold and owe it to you to our country. There can be no white wash at the White House. Two wrongs, don't make a right. He just started like losing his mind. Love America, I love America. God bless America and God bless each and every one of you. Ice cream for all. I'm hurt and hand is worth two in the morning.

I'm hurt. So he lost his mind. I'm looking, he's just going. But he's just said that people closer and closer to me, they're going under the bus. But he's like, I have to accept full responsibility, but now I have to go back and do my job. Yeah, I got to do my job.

That's what being president is is doing the job. Go to the book White House Press Secretary Ronald Ziegler publicly apologized to the Washington Post. This was the next day. And two of its reporters for his earlier criticism of their investigation, investigative reporting of the Watergate conspiracy. At the White House briefing, a reporter asked Ziegler if the White House didn't know the post in apology. Ziegler said, in thinking of it all at this point in time, yes, I would like to apologize to the post and I would apologize to Mr. Woodward and Mr. Bernstein.

We would all have to say that mistakes were made in terms of comments. I was over enthusiastic in my comments about the post, particularly if you look at them in the context of developments that have taken place. Now that I know that I was, they were right, I guess. That context. When we were wrong, we were wrong. As we were in this case, a Ziegler finished, he started to say, but, but then he was cut off by a reporter who said, now don't take it back, Ron. It was about to budd it. No, it's pretty. It was about to buddhist, no, it's pretty. Apparently, I think Woodward called him and thanked him for the apology. Then when Irving, so now the big committee hearing is kicking off this big Senate committee,

and this began on May 17th, and they were fully televised by three major networks. The country was glued to the coverage, according to Britannica, trading volume shot down on the New York Stock Exchange. How's wives threatened not to do a stitch of housework for as long as the hearings lasted? College students gathered around TV sets and corridors and between and sometimes during classes. High school TVs set up TVs in the cafeteria for all-day civics lessons. Never have I enjoyed watching television more than the past two weeks, one Washington post letter writer testified with the spectacle of a high human drama into woven with the finest possible example of the democratic process of work unfolding before my eyes hour after

hour with no rehearsal, no candelarfter, very little commentary, bracket, none needed, and festival, almost no commercial interruption. And who's in socks? God bless America. I've never seen better television, really, really. Hours and hours and hours of people grumbling, so on this date. Oh, sorry, let me just find that note here. Fucking through pages.

Fascinating. Apparently, though, Britannicus says the feeling was not universal, universal. Sticklers, including independent prosecutor Archibald Cox, who will talk about soon, to cry at the unfairness of what he characterizes as trying the principles in the media. So this shouldn't be a trial by media.

This should be done behind closed doors, I think. Game show and soap opera fans also complained about the preemption of their favorite programs that were taken off the air so that they could watch another fun game show. People talking slow. Most significantly for the later ideological direction of the country, though hardly noticed by elites at the time, large portions of Americans derided the entire business as a political witch hunt and would continue to do so into the 21st century. So they're saying, I guess they're saying that sort of led into some of this trumpism in the very divided country now, maybe, is how I can't have read that. Still, some 35 million or so Americans watch

the urban hearings at one time or another. So a lot of more than all of Australia's population watched it at some point. So much came out of the hearing, including in the spring of 1969, national security advisor Henry Kissinger, wiretapped his staffers. In 1970, the White House set up an illegal money laundering operation to fund its favoured Senate candidates. It was revealed that as the 1972 campaign season rolled around, roving cells of saboteurs devised ways to weaken individual democratic presidential campaigns, while making it look like the campaigns were actually sabotaging each other. The questioning of young Nixon Aids left senators incredulous with their

explanations that ends justify the means. Morality had become semi-official White House policy. Like that the young AIDS were, they were like, yeah, we did some illegal stuff. What was the problem? But that was the point, right? That was the problem there. Yeah, why are you even asking about it? Another continuing thread was the examination of illegal sources of the money that funded

the various claim desk sign operations. And the drama was further intensified by an ongoing investigation of the White House's attempts at stifling the panel's investigation even as it was still underway. So the White House was still trying to make it harder even, I guess that, yeah, they must have seen the writing on the wall, but still he was holding on to power through all of this. The committee tried to get to the bottom of how much Nixon knew or his vice chairman Baker put it. What did the president know and when? Did he know it? See, that's an important question. People don't always ask. That sounds like

another one of those game shows. What did the president know and when? Did he know what's right after this? Ha ha ha. My, Nixon maintained basically, he knew nothing. Sure. Hey, box tops are made, but I didn't know about it. Yeah, what's, oh wow, what happened? I don't know.

It's impossible to do something about it, but I don't know about it, which I didn't, otherwise I would have done something about it. And my fingers in my ears, oh what? La la la la. But then on June 25th, 1973, this idea was thrown into doubt when recently resigned White House aide,

John Wesley Dean III gave a seven hour statement followed by five days of cross examination. According to Britannica, Dean's account established the president as the prime mover behind the scandal and cover up. However, these revelations were greeted with skepticism by many. It appeared that the entire extraordinary business would devolve into a stalemate. The President's word against one of his aides. This only lasted until the following month, though, went

on the 16th of July, former White House staffer Alexander P. Butterfield revealed that Nixon secretly had conversations in his offices recorded. All of them. All conversations in his offices were recorded and all those tapes were sitting there. Holy shit. He was very, apparently very paranoid guy. And so that's what a lot of this stuff was about. He was cruising to victory. And he was so paranoid about it all. And that's why he had all these, I mean, this whole thing that he was doing sounds like it was born out of some paranoia. But he's presumably making this recordings in case other people screw him over. But now he's just screwed himself. Oh no. The Senate committee, as well as

Judge Syracur and an independent special prosecutor I mentioned before archable cocks also painted the tapes, but Nixon refused to provide them. He said executive privilege. I don't have to. I'm president. I don't have to do it. I got executive surely would have destroyed the tapes as well. Right. Are you wondering why the fuck you didn't do that? Yeah. One day one of this of this? Yeah, that's what I would wonder as well. Right, but he said, I don't recall any tapes. Be yeah, and said he said, no, I'm presidents, I don't have to. He said, I'll provide written summaries of the tapes instead.

Written summaries where I can redact anything that I want to. Yeah, or just make it up. Yeah. Yeah. This offer was rejected by Cox. Anyway, so here's a conversation with this guy, so he came in, he said, hello, Mr. President. I said, hello, how are you? He says, wow, your penis looks incredibly big today.

Yeah. Whoa. Why are you getting an average of every... Even bigger than I remember, and it was already quite big. Yeah, my goodness, Mr. President. Mr. President, do you want to explain to me why you were a penis about during this meeting? Uh, no comment. Well, that's what I was trying to protect myself from,

whole along to try to embarrass me one time. My fly was I've done, and I flopped the chop. My passive hog to the point through. I'm really sorry about that. I'm really sorry that the hog got out, you know? It's very distracting for everybody else. I'm standing there working. It's time the hogs got hog got out, you know. It's very distracting for everybody else. I understand. That's the time the hog's going to get out of the star.

You cannot be timed. It's good to reaffirty your underpants. It's a star. See that, that are a big band. Yeah, star is good. Star is the limit. That's right. I'm done.

Yeah. Then on October 20th, Nixon took the extraordinary step of ordering his attorney general, Elliot Richardson, to sack special prosecutor Cox. Cox has gone, I need the tapes. Nixon goes, with sack Cox. Surely, that does not look good for you, public. Yeah. This kicked off what became dramatically known as the Saturday night massacre, where both

Richardson and the deputy attorney general, William D. Ruckles-Shouse resigned instead of carrying out the order. Holy shit. So Cox was finally dismissed by solicitor general named Robert Bork. According to Britannica, it was another extraordinary historical moment. Finally dismissed by solicitor general named Robert Bork. According to Britannica, it was another extraordinary historical moment. Many responsible American officials

literally feared a White House coup d'état. One-day coup d'état. Amongst all this on October the 10th, 1973, Vice President Spiro Agnew, who I've mentioned at all, and never heard of before. Hi. He resigned before pleading no contest to charges of tax evasion and money law-ordering. It's just, uh, fish rot to the head or whatever.

It's just like everyone involved seems a bit dicy. Wow. This opened the door for Gerald Ford to become the new Vice President. Do you like beer or not, Jones? Hello, Homer. Ford accepted the offer, apparently telling his wife that the vice presidency would be a nice way to end his political career.

He had told her before this, he'd been trying to become the majority leader in the house. I was the senator, I think in the house. And, but he was the minority leader. So he was campaigning for a long time, trying to get more Republican numbers in so that he'd be the majority leader. And then he told his wife,

I'm gonna have one last crack at the next election after that I'm retiring. And then this happened. He's like, well, vice president, that's not bad. That's not a bad way to finish up. Someone argue that's even better than being majority later. So some would say. Some would say.

Maybe less powerful, I don't know. I don't understand the system. I don't fully. I'm here for the title. And that's all. Public pressure grew over the following days leading to Nixon finally agreeing to handing over the nine tapes on October 23. Despite agreeing to hand over the nine tapes on October 23. Despite agreeing to hand over the nine tapes,

he only handed over seven, and one of those tapes had a strange eight and a half minute silent spot. Huh. Oh, I guess that. Maybe Richard was just sitting at his desk reading for a bit. Maybe no one was in the room.

Yeah. And everybody think of that? Yeah, I don't understand why they didn't even think of that. Why do you think it's so suspicious that people were chatting and then it goes really quiet for 18 minutes and then those same two people, the chat you get. Yeah, so the last thing that said about all the sciences, so the illegal thing we're gonna do is,

and the science for an hour of minutes, and then, all right, we'll do that illegal thing. And then, see you later. I don't know why didn't eliminate the illegal part as well. Seems like even still he kind of incriminated himself. In November at Disney World in Florida, the president told an audience of editors on national TV, I didn't realize it's a real quote, but it is,

he told him, in November, I am not a croc. Yeah, yeah. I thought that was just like a Simpson thing or something. Formal impeachment proceedings were launched in May of 1974 and That's like six months later. Yeah, so just dragged out a fair bit and they listening to the tapes in the the hearing Yeah, it's all there's all just oh my god. I think if I've got my dates right no guarantee on that um and Nixon was made to hand over further tapes according to to Britannica, on August 5th,

the president supplied transcripts of three tapes that clearly implicated him in the cover-up with these revelations. Nixon's last support and Congress evaporated. Basically, the Republicans came and said, I think they were sort of saying the impeachment vote will get up. Yeah. So just fall on your sword. And he announces resignation on August the 8th stating that he no longer had a strong enough political base with which to govern. Nixon left office at noon the following day on August the 9th. When Nixon resigned, Gerald Ford, hey, Homer, Nixon resigned Gerald Ford. Hey, Homer. It was swan.

It's not weird that's all we know about him. We've played on the Simpsons once right at the end of an episode. Yeah. Well now we know this about him as well. Nixon resigned. Gerald Ford was sworn in as the 38th president of the United States. Not a bad way to finish his career. Yeah, not bad.

And his wife's like, I just wanted to go to fucking Hawaii. I agree to the VP thing, but. Yeah, but that was the final straw. Didn't agree to the P. Now I'm the, now I'm the FL. I'm the FL now. What? He made history. I mean, by becoming president, but he also made history becoming the first president

to have gotten the gig without having first won an election as either president or vice president. Sometimes vice presidents had to step up to presidency, but he wasn't elected either way. Then on September the and apparently it was still quite popular. Yeah, right. That was going to ask that. And then I thought Joan asked questions. But that's good that they use pop. popped on ask questions. I don't I tell you where I work up seven went on the C. I have that's what you think in So then on September the 8th Ford granted Nixon a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes He may have committed while president may have committed so what and then he can come up and be like I killed 11 people Yeah, and Ford's like he was fully pardoned fully pardoned. Yeah Not everyone like Dolly Parton too. Fully pardoned. Yeah. Fully pardoned. And ever promised you. No,

it's a different thing. Dolly Parton's thing is song about being pardoned. And a rose garden. I don't think so. I've confused myself again. So not. So he was lucky in that way. But not everyone else was so lucky. The Watergate scandal resulted in 69 government officials being charged and 48 being found guilty. What a nice amount. According to Britannica, by the time of the pardon, enough Americans had become convinced that Nixon was guilty of crimes, that when Ford had pardoned him as quid pro quo for becoming

president, that was what they were thinking. Then the approval rating of the otherwise popular new president collapsed overnight. Yeah. Now, it's sort of, it's sound that that was kind of the end of his, that was the beginning of the end of it for him. Nixon lived on. There's interviews you can watch with him where he's been like post president, been a bit more open about stuff Kind of you know, I can't I feel like I can't watch things so I oh I watch I hey he seems alright I just gotta I feel you would definitely end up in a cult yeah I'd be leading it, but you'd be in it. Yeah, you'd be drinking the cool. Yeah, some good ideas

be in it. Yeah. You'd be drinking the cool. Yeah, some good ideas. So you did some crimes, what I mean? Am I all I'd have to be with him? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He died. Oh, good things must come down and Nixon died in 1994, after which the rest of the tapes were released and now available to the public, apparently people have been going through them and people still find interesting tidbits. What?

This one is the one that stood out to me the most is from Britannica again, including the discovery in these tapes was that Nixon ordered the fire bombing of the Washington D.C. think tank, the Brookings Institution, which was never carried out, in an attempt to remove records suggesting that he had conspired to sabotage the 1968 Paris peace talks so that his democratic opponent in that year's presidential election, whilst President Hubert Humphrey, could not run on a record of having helped end the Vietnam war. So to help get a little edge in the election,

he ordered a building be fire bombed. Fucking out. Whoa, I'm just kidding. It was never carried out. So I don't know if he had second thoughts, so I don't know why it wasn't carried out. But. I didn't have enough thought.

I blew my mind. Like isn't it funny? Because it's a, you go crimes where it's like moving money around and stuff that hurt a lot of people in different ways, subverting justice and all these sort of things like these are bad things but that's just like you know, and you will have a beer with this guy. Well, I forgot about that. Uh, before we finish up, I figure I should talk about the identity of Deep Throat on May 31st 2005. It was finally revealed. Vanity Fair magazine identified a former top FBI official named Mark Felt as Deep Throat. He was a second-in-charge at FBI at the time, so he was a big dog. Wow. So how did he know all that? So he was, I mean, he was the FBI investigations were happening, but they were being quashed

a bit from using that word right, but he was keen to get the truth. So that's why he was sort of motivated to help the journals a bit. I guess is what I, my reading of it is. So felt identity as Washington's most celebrated secret source had been an objective speculation for more than 30 years where it post reported David Von Dreal the next day. According to the Post, his true identity, the object of countless guesses over the years, remained secret until Vanity Fair's story. I'm the guy they called Deepthroat, Felt told family members.

He was telling people. He was telling people. I think why I think, no, I think once it was out. That was sort of, and was it out with his permission? Or was it like that? I think so, yeah, I think it was out with his friend. He was quiet, I think it was in his 90s at this point. So even if he was saying it, his family were like,

aha, yeah. I'm Deep Throat. All right, Grapp, please, please, follow me. All right, all right, okay, Grapp. I'm Deep Throat, okay. Oh my God. And everyone both people together. All right, oh, okay, Grapp. I gave it to you. Okay. Oh my God. And everyone of the nursing homes,

you're like, I'm deep friends. Like, oh God. I'm the real deep friend. No, no. You have some jelly. Woodward Road at the time. I was thankful for any more sort of information, confirmation or assistance felt gave me,

while Carl and I were attempting to understand the many headed monster of Watergate. Because of his position, virtually atop the chief investigative agency, his words and guidance had immense and at times even staggering authority. But as the post noted, Woodward and Bernstein also expressed a concern that the deep throat story has over the years come to obscure the many other elements that went into exposing the Watergate story, including other sources, other investigators, high impact senate hearings, a shocking trove of secret

White House tape recordings and the decisive intervention of a unanimous US Supreme Court. It feels like they're saying deep throat's getting too much credit. We did a lot of work, okay. That is what they're saying, but they're also spreading around bit, and I think Bernstein, especially, because he never even talked to deep throat. Yeah.

So he's like, I did a lot of work as well. It wasn't just deep throat giving, it was only confirming something. How many times did you move a pot plant and then walk two hours to meet someone in a car park? That's the cool puddle. Yeah. This is from Bernstein, and basically saying,

that he felt's role in all this can be overstated. Sort of Bernstein said. But he goes on to say, when we wrote the book, we didn't think his role would achieve such mythical dimensions. You see there that felt such deep throat, largely confirmed information we had already gotten from other sources. So he confirmed it. He didn't, he wasn't the one. We got the info and then he helped confirm it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think, I mean, the name deep throat definitely would have helped on that as well.

And the fact that it turned out to be second in charge at the FPL. Yeah, huge. Fun fact to finish. Well, fact to finish. Thank you, I'll decide. The term follow the money was popularized by the 1976 film, all the President's men, which was based on the book by Bernstein and Woodward. The film stars Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman as Woodward and Bernstein. And the phrase is now shorthand for suggesting corruption can be uncovered by examining money transfers between parties. Follow the money. That's a fact. That was for that's cool. How was that fun? How was that fun? You'd say that around at the dinner party, would you? Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that waylands me this is when they're parodying it as well.

Follow the money. Like jumping on a cigarette. Follow the money. Well, follow the money like Trump in a cigarette for the money Yeah, so I thought I was fun because I didn't know that but well, it's not your call to make I didn't like all you do grim facts. There's nothing grim about that though. Surely man, and I do find nothing good There's nothing fun about it. That's that's true. That's the important point to me I believe it is a fact it is a fact And I'm just the fact guy. And I agree that that is just a plain fact. That is a fact.

It's just a fact. The film was a huge box office success as well. And apparently, the book that they were writing initially burnt scene in Woodward was going to be more about, it was going to be less about their investigation and more about what it was gonna be less about their investigation and more about the, what Nixon was up to and said it was sort of more from their perspective and how the investigation unfolded.

But then as they were into writing it, Redford approached them and said, I want to make a film out of it. If you tell it from this perspective, I'll buy the option. So they changed the direction then apparently. Yeah, it's all, it had a budget of eight and a half million and it made over 70 million. Wow. It's a big pick it.

I'm gonna watch it. I was planning on watching it before we did this episode. Yeah, I haven't heard of it, but that's a good cast. You're right, hot cast. Hot cast. Not a red thread, god damn. Even as an old man, you're like, oh, yeah. I would. Never not hot. Never not. Not as though,, god damn. Even as an old man, you're like, oh, yeah. I would.

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So hopefully that was a good sort of jumping off point for them. A good, yeah. Because like I say, there's, you know, there's so much. It's a day- day to day investigations. Yeah. And that was zigzagging across the country, following that money, following that money. So fun.

Stop trying to convince me. Walking to the garage. Yeah, that's great. Walking back from the garage, moving a pop plan around. Oh, walking back from the garage, imagine Alfred hasn't trained for two hours. That's a five hour journey now.

I should say, I'm pretty sure during it it he moved to be closer to the garage. That makes sense. Don't change who's a different garage. He moved to be above. Yeah. You've moved above the garage. He bought one of the storage things in the garage and he lived in there. So anyway, that brings us to everyone's favorite part of the show, the fact quote of question, section which I think has a jingle to go smell it. Fat quote or quest, yay! I always remember the ding. I did this part of the show by myself for last week's episode and I had to do the preamble of setting it up, but I believe it does a little jingle and then I had to sing it and then

I had to do the ding and I was like, this is so much work. Yeah, I did it all the week before. And I was losing my mind. I was sitting in bed, down in Tazzy, after having a few beers and I before. And I was one take, obviously. Yeah. And I reckon I will lost my mind.

I hated it. Did you felt like things went right? I've never missed you guys more. Did you do the trip dig club? Yes. Did you hype them up? I was so excited. I did it all. I did it all. I've never missed you guys more than you do the trip did club. Yes. Did you hype them up? I did it all. I did it all. I did every single bit. I got a lot of I drew the line. I couldn't possibly do it. I didn't want them to feel like they had been ripped off. I know But I said if you felt ripped off, send us an email. If you care about this, and if this is something really important, you let us know. You really should. Did they let you know? Nobody has.

Well, that makes me feel absolutely redundant. Yeah. And Dave, we've been saying that for years. Well, the hype man is an essential part of the show. Yes, I am. I am the hype man for you. Yeah, but the idea is central bit. Who are you hyping if I'm not here? Oh, exactly. And you prove that by not I'm not here? Oh. Exactly. And you prove that by not having anyone to hide last week. All right, well, let's do some facts and quotes and some quotes. Yeah. So you can get involved in this by going to petron.com slash to go on pod.

Yeah, this is very bizarre. I've even ever heard of before. Or you can go to do go on pod.com. And it's all explained there. And you get involved at the Sydney Shamburg Dux Memorial edition, wrestling peace level, and then you can get involved with all sorts of rewards at different levels. I mean, get on there and you'll see. But it explains it pretty well. But we're talking three bonus episodes. You can be in the Facebook group, you get

pre-sale tickets to live streams, and also live shows. You also get little discounts. A weekly news letter. On some of the higher things, we get a monthly video message. There's all sorts of things, depending on where you are on level. The Sydney Shambu one is one of the higher ones. You get nearly all that stuff, probably, a video message, but you also get to give us a fact to quote or a question. You also get to give yourself a title. This week, Sashar Ine's stat has given herself the title of animal wrangler and has offered up a quote. And Sashar's quote is reporter. Did you visit the pathion during your trip to Greece? Shaquille and Neil. I can't really remember the names of the clubs that we went to. Oh, what's one of his nicknames? Shaqfou.

Shaqfou. Shaqfou, you've done it again. So good. Here comes the Shaqfou. That's a fun quote. What are the names of the clubs? The path and on, very good stuff. I can't tell if he's in on that or not.

You know, the funny guys are very funny guys. Yeah, I reckon he's in on that for sure. Thank you so much, Sasha, great quote. I don't read these sort of read them. So when I slightly butcher it, like I did then, that's not my fault. No, that's not your fault. I mean, I've just done a whole episode

of slightly butchering my own report, so. That's just your eyes not communicating with your brain. That's not your fault. Not my fault, it's my eyes and my brain. Yeah. Take it up to them, take it up to them. Yeah, good luck. Because I'll wear the top of this, this problem.

Oh, do you think I'm involved with those guys? I mean, my eyes have worked with me sometimes, sure. Sure. But my eyes have looked at a lot of things. My eyes work with a lot, sure. Sure. But my eyes have looked at a lot of things. My eyes work with a lot of people. No. No. Uh, next one's from Paul McNally.

Maybe I wonder if you have any relation to Rand. Rand McNally. And Paul, Paul's title is official environmental disaster assessor of the Dugo on Report Universe bracket still working through the Halifax explosion Holy moly. That's big that big work. Yeah. Sorry about that Paul. Hopefully hopefully you've been paid or right. Yeah, a lot of cleanup Paul asks a question. Here is his question. This question is specifically for Matt. Sorry Justin Dave. No, great. I'll sit this one out I You'll have a nap. Matt, can you please say thank you to my fellow patron and now brother-in-law Ian Mar as in Ray Mar, you were correct. How did he know?

Oh, yeah, okay. For the congrats video he got you to do for myself and my wife. It was great, very loose and very fun. I did a cameo video for welcoming him into the family, A&MAR. And what a funny way to thank me. Wait, what's the question? Oh, this is good. That's the question is, can you. Oh, can you please say thank you to my fellow? Oh, yes, okay.

And the answer is no. Ha ha ha ha ha. I've been so confused. fellow. Oh yes, okay. And the answer is no. Ha ha ha ha. I've been so confused. I absolutely not. So next. Ha ha ha ha. So that's it. I have a funny that absolutely confused me.

All of a sudden I thought I was talking to Ian Ma. But no, this is from Paul McNally. Yes. Paul wants me to thank Ian Ma. Ian Ma, thank you so much. Because Ian welcomed Paul into the family. Yes. Through you. That's very nice.

Did they talk exclusively through you? Yeah, it's us. Maybe learn to communicate my bro. I love it. I think it's so fun. Can you ask Ian to pass the salt? But like, there's a time difference. So Paul's really gone without salt for a long time. I love it. I love it. They talked exclusively through Patreon and Cameo Shadows. Great work Paul. Thank you very much. And obviously great work, A&MAR. Next one comes from Kevin Vincent, who has given himself a title of chief engineer for do-go-on search for extraterrestrial intelligence, doing God's work there. Oh, Kevin has offered us,

Kevin has offered us a fact just for Dave laughing. Oh, that's very funny. I saw a little clap because that made me laugh so much and then just imitated my clap. I put my like to bottom up. I'm clapping you wrist. I'm clapping my wrist.

You can't hear this. Yeah, he looks so dumb. What, I love it. I love it so much. Sorry. I'm sorry Kevin's given us a fact and his fact is the square kilometer array or that's a radio telescope being built in Western Australia is so sensitive it could detect an airport radar at a distance of 10 light years. 10 light years covers 10 to 12 stars. Whoa. That's big. I reckon I have a funny feeling that because you shorten square kilometer array to scar, I reckon that might be where that fact came from.

But I really be my favorite my favorite music So that also your favorite radio telescope. Yes, that's um, I That's I can never get my head around. Yeah, I don't I don't understand that at all, but it sounds amazing It's a long long way that it can detect a little signal. And Kevin, you're I think he's I'm guessing he works in that field. So, um, great, great work. Great work. Like I said, don't go to work. Keep watching the skis.

I mean, skies. This final one comes from Zach Dobran, who is the president of Ramayana's for the day one. Quote. Day one. Who knows what you were talking about when you said it. Some listeners who seem to think they made sense. They are obviously off their rock. You didn't know.

Yeah, that was amazing. That was the only way you were going with that. Oh, did you? Yeah, I got it. I can't even remember what that episode was. That was me, though. Zach Dobran has a question, what is one cultural, slash social norm in the world that you would change

if you could and why? Oh, that's a lot of life. That's clapping with risks. Yeah, and the people not clapping with risks. Oh, that's really fun. Oh, okay, them in system, they have to wash your hair at the hairdressers. Do not like that.

I love them. I love getting my hair done. Not like a head massage. I think it should be optional. Okay. A lot of places it doesn't seem optional. Feels weird if I say please don't touch me. I've got a weird one and people make fun of me for this.

But I would stop people blowing out candles on birthday cakes. Oh, because it's a bit gross. Yeah. I agree. I'm also now with, you know, co-vertile stuff. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

But do you think you're an alien? You're an alien. You're a blowing spedal onto the cake and they go to want some? Especially your child. Yeah, I was going to say it should be like a certain age. It takes like two. Sometimes they're taking one. 10 or 11,000 goes.

And they're literally going. 11,000 goes. Yeah. To do it, because I don't dare literally go. 11,000 goes. Yeah. To do it, because I don't know how to blow air yet. No. Yeah. That's a good one. Oh yeah.

I thought I was really expecting you to turn on me there. Oh, OK. The birthday Grinch is here. Ah, bloody. That's odd. I don't feel a bit like that as well. I like to lick my fingers and put them out like that. Tss.

I like to lick my fingers and rub it on top of the cake. I finger the cake. Well, not blow on it, but I'll finger it. How do you, um, do you so staunch about that that you will not eat a cake this had? I don't think I ate cakes that much anyway, but yeah, I pretty much won't eat those cakes. It makes it an easy decision. What if it looks fucking good? Oh, be tricky. Yeah. And yeah, it depends on where I am in my head. More cakes for me. But I agree that if it's something that you could silently change,

for me, the head is a thing. I love that. Just make the, either you get the candles. It's a bit of fun, but I can't. Maybe there could be like a birthday candle stick. And it's a separate tradition where people go and blow out a candle. Well, I mean,, that sounds joyful. Kids will love it. Hey kids, go get the stick. It's time to blow out this stick. And then they can go over the test of both worlds.

Or, your own ideas like the birthday Grinch, they, before they light the candles, they cut out a small segment, put it in a bowl, and you're holding it. You've got like a piece of glad rubber with the top of it. And then they get hazmat too. Right, now a little Jesse, now you can blow out your cake. All right, Jesse, you have an idea for some. No, I can't think of anything.

I think I must just be incredibly easy going. Yeah, you just love. I love everyone. Tradition. I don't care about spit. Yeah, I think, I mean, you know, like most people say, it doesn't really hurt anyone. It's just meant that some people who had

calls that they didn't need to get. Yeah, absolutely. No, I think you're right on that one, but I can't think of anything. Hmm, good examples though, but no, I can't think of anything. Not like... I've heard people talking about getting rid of handshakes for good and hugs with people unless you're real close,

or even all together. I don't always like, you'll meet someone for the first time and they'll go for the hug and I'm like, I don't fucking know you. Well, you're going for the cheek kiss. Yeah. I don't really like that. I only like that with people I really know

and their cheeks. They don't even know. Go for my mouth. You want that? Yeah. If you get a kiss, don't. Let's not waste this. But I know you're incredibly well and I would hug you,

but I've never kissed you on the cheek. I think, no, I think a hug is more than that. I agree with you that it shouldn't be just given away to a stranger. I think the kiss on the cheek is an old still thing, right? We don't do it really, yeah. That's an Arnie's thing. Yeah.

I definitely hate it as a kid every family gathering. It would, you know, the kisses of hand shakes. I'd be like, oh, yeah, it might be dying out, maybe. But it can be a little bit, I don't know. I find it really annoying when you'll meet, you'll meet someone for the first time and they'll shake everyone's hands and then kiss the lady.

I'm like, shake my fucking hand. Yeah, I agree. You're allowed to shake women's hands. Yeah, that's right. Just shake my hand and say nice to meet you. I don't wanna hug you, you're a you. I don't want to hug you. You're a stranger. I don't want you to kiss me on the cheek.

Yeah, it's obviously that's just like a taught thing. But yeah, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have to shake everything. You can do that. It's fine. We have hands. But it's funny because I know some people like Joshel, I'm sure I've heard him say that he'll never go back to shaking hands again. He never really liked it anyway. Any of that stuff. people like Josh L, I'm sure I've heard him say that he'll never go back to shaking hands again.

He never really liked it anyway. Any of that stuff. But I always, I don't know if some reason the shaking hands doesn't really matter even though that would be equally trans trans trans transporting, let's say. I am. What about? Can we start? Can we start James?

Thank you of sharing. What about the convention of people that sometimes you'll have one flavor of chip in a bowl and we'll get down to a certain level. Oh, no. Then I'll top it up with another fucker. Oh, you are a fucking psychopath. Never. I would make that illegal if I could.

You finish those chips. What the fuck? Or if it's just like crumbs and nobody's touching frages, clean out that fucking bowl. Tilt it out. I don't want Doritos mixed with salt and vinegar chips. What are you doing? Yes, good. I'm glad I'm not weird in this.

But, man, that's an extreme. But I was even thinking like light and tangy and salt and vinegar. People do. Like, yeah, I want to know what I'm getting. You go in Doritos to fucking S and V. I went for an extreme example to win you over to my side. But you obviously didn't need any win.

I'm sorry, Dion, that's ridiculous. We should move. Oh, thank you so much for the question. What a fantastic question that was. I really kicked off some heated debate. Thank you very much. No fuck you. Thanks, Kevin Paul and Sasha as well for their quotes

and questions and facts we got one of each today, which is nice. Love that. But we also like to think a few of our other patrons. We normally do it by some little game Somehow to do with the episode we just had just any thoughts today. Well Something we see a lot today is it went all the way to the top All the way to the top and I want to know which it did in the end. It really did It truly did so I was baffling for a long time for me. I was like what does he mean? What's he getting at?

So this time the the top was president. So now I want to know and there was also a foggy bottom. foggy bottom. So is that it? I don't think that was a foggy bottom to the president. I don't think that's it. Got all the way down to the foggy bottom. I don't think that's anything but thank you for reminding me. It started from the foggy bottom and it made it to the top all the way to the top. I think that's almost something. The whole thing started at the foggy bottom and I made it all the way to the top. I think that's something. She has patients made it.

Yes, what's your idea? I was like, what? Who's at the top? So it like, I don't know how to explain what I mean. Right. Let's just go with an example. All right. You do the first one. Okay. And then we'll understand what you mean. So if I could kick it off, I'd love to thank

from Stauberidge in England, Claire Johnson. And Claire Johnson is, she's investigating something and it's going all the way to the top, Santa Claus. Oh man, he knows some stuff. Okay, no, I still didn't get it, but Santa Claus is the next in this case. Exactly right, yes. So this goes the elves a few elves have been caught Yeah, but this one actually good and for a long time they're like wow I don't know what these elves are have these elves dragged in this way, but

Sanitala. Yeah. Oh, oh, I am not a Okay, yes you are we have to do an impression of each of them Great love him. Ho, ho, ho, no, no, no comment. Oh, ho, ho, no comment. I would have just gone, ho, ho, no comment. Yeah, I just, no, no, no comment would have, could we edit that?

Could that be edited? I mean, that's entirely up to you. I'm editing this week's episode. I think the people might find that all of that remains. Ha ha ha ha. I'm not by choice. All right, so I'd also love to thank from Bansdett and Surrey in Great Britain, William Townsend.

Oh, I think it goes all the way to the top and by that I mean, Greg from the Wiggles. Oh, Stinky Greg! Well, the front man. Bloody Greg. That's interesting because from the outside in, it always seems like the blue wiggles the top. Yeah, you'd think that. He wants you to think that. But yellow is the Papa people, by the way.

Exactly, he's one of the Papa people. He's one of the Papa people? Wow, William Townsend. So, uh, oh, I'm not a freshman. Wake up, Jeff. I am not a crook. Yeah. Beautiful. Beautiful. And William Townsend is involved somehow in this or he's cracked. He's cracked or wide open. He's been watching the Wiggles for years and he's like, hang on a second. I'm loving that phrase cracked

at wide open. I said it to you guys. I was saying without you knowing what the topic was, I was saying I was finding it hard to write the report. It was so dense. I didn't know how to get into it. And then I sent you a message late last night. I said, I think I've cracked it wide open. It makes complete sense now. Yeah, now you know. I mean, no idea what you were talking about. William Townsend, well done. Great work. Cracking Greg open wide open. And finally, I'd love to thank from a granok or granok in Inverclade in Great Britain, Scott Coventry. Scott Coventry, obviously, goes all the way to the top to Her Majesty the Queen. Oh, no! She's in on it. Yeah. I know. But he's broken it open. Half a funny,

that name did sound Scottish-like. And I reckon, I reckon's broken it open. Half a funny thing, that name did sound Scottish like. And I reckon, I reckon that Scott would love. Yeah, you take that, wouldn't you? It would be pretty stoked. Bring it down the coin. It is in Scotland. Hmm. Yeah.

New, I am not a crook. That is a great, yeah. New. T. I'm not a crook. You too. So, the investigators were there. No, I'm not a crook. You two. Say it to the investor guy to some of the...

No, I'm not a crook. Tea. It definitely has something to do with the corgis as well. Yeah. The corgis, yeah. Some like... Poppy farm. That's that's the way.

Fucking I'm Pellet's is a poppy farm for corgis. One of the corgis shits out some poppy seeds. And at first it seems like, wait what did you say? I thought you meant like a, like a baby dog. What does poppy, what do poppies make? Heroin or Coke? Heroin. Hero.

I'm sorry. Heroin. I'm mosey on here. What is he like? Oh, I think Jessusy. I'm here. What is he like? Oh, I'm just looking at you and you said, all right, one of the makes up, but she's had a puppy, a puppy seed.

And Ellie, you're talking about it. I was like, why is he going with it? No, she's selling black market puppies. Oh, wow. Do you see what, yeah. That's surprising. Yeah. There you go.

Well, money's taught. Yeah, money talks. Follow it. Follow the money. Follow the money. Okay, now I get that that's a fun fact. Okay, thank God. Follow it. Follow the money. Follow the money. Okay. Now I get that that's a fun fact. Okay. Thank God. I'm lying. That's a stillable fact. All right. Who's going next? Thanks God. Thanks William. Thanks, Claire. I would love to go. I would love to thank from Daven Tree. Oh, I'm sure. I would love to thank Louis Williams. Louis Williams, all the way to the top. It could also be Louis, but it's probably, I don't know.

We're talking all the way to the top. Gill McGlockland. No! How do the AFL... You are joking. And I mean, you know, I would not be all that surprised if something was found out to went all the way to the top there. Yeah. He was involved in one of those OPS scandals, I'm pretty sure. Oh, yeah, there's always an OPS. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly. Allegedly.

I mean, what I love at Louise done there is as Englishman. Come in. Yeah. Gill has no idea. He knows who he even is. Yeah. But he's come in possibly as an O'Pare. Yeah. Because the O'Pare scandal, if you don't know, it wasn't like they weren't trading O'Pare's earnings. It was they, they used their influence to get a visa. Yeah. They got a visa through to it, you know, call up just relevant ministers and stuff like that. But Louis, he's cracked it wide open. Whoa, the OPS scandal.

You don't see an Englishman coming for the AFL head. And what's the saying here? Oh, hang on. Goal, six points. I'm not a crook. Goal, six points. As I say, goal, six points. What's the football phrase? Goal, six points. As I say, goal six points. What's the football phrase?

Goal six points. Yeah, goal six points. Everyone says that all the time. Goal six points. I say, come on, come on. Dusty. Oh, yeah. Goal six points.

Goal six points. Goal six points, they chant. And that's definitely what Gilmaglucklin, the head of the NFL. He's also a goal on point. Yeah. So far. Matt, he's a goal six points up. Goal six points up. Just because you might not know,

then you've got a goal. You get six points. I would also love to thank from Greensboro in North Carolina. Oh, where the fire engines are blue. Can't it's a nice short back now. Thank God. I would love to thank Tomahawk Eastridge. Wow. Strong name. Tomahawk Eastridge. One of my patterns bands. My patterns record label, maybe goes all the way to the top there. Oh, wow. Never set it out loud. I pick a cack. That is it. I pick a cack. I think I think I pick a

cack. Wow. I'm like, Patten. This is it. I'm not a crook. Perfect. Thank you. He's getting better and better. Honestly, it was very difficult to do an impression of Gilmueg Locklund. So I'm glad we brought it back to someone who vaguely, I know what they sound like. Yeah. And also we did a past topic of the show. What's that, Phil? That's right, we didn't talk about enough about that. And the Queen.

Yes. Meesh. Who did the Queen? I did very early on. Over five years ago. Fucking hell, thank you. Good that I have no idea then. And you talked about, because I watched the crown this season,

one of the episodes was dedicated to that guy, Broke In. Oh, yes, I just watched that. It's a good app. I was sad to say there was it was fairly fictionalized because he yes The scene quite a dark trouble from like this. Yeah, this happened. Yeah, the scene between them was a really good, but Not accurate. Yeah, it was Netflix. Um, and finally for me, I'd love to thank from Dublin in Dublin in Ireland. I would love to thank Tyrell Tyrell. Tyrell. It goes all the way to the top and there's only one Irish person that goes all the way to the top. Oh no, don't do it. You better put it in. Don't piss off Connor. Yeah, he goes all the way. Connor's a big sportsman. Pick a Nara sports star. Who are you talking to?

I'm like, let me think of one. Owen Morgan. Owen Morgan, the cricketer. The cricketer. Who would you say is for an Irish sports star? No, that's a good one. I would have said St Patrick. The mid to knee, Paid Polo or something?

Surely. At some point St Patrick. St Patrick, at some point, St Patrick. St Patrick. There you go. St Patrick's line. Like Anelli, maybe Jim Starns. These are all Australian Irish. Even the one I named,

play thing that could wrinkle in. Okay. Let's go with St Patrick. St goes all the way to St Patrick. Who sounds like? Woo! I'm wasted on St. Patrick's Day. I'm not a crook.

Man, you can, you know, he's telling the truth because he's wasted. Yeah. Yes. I think that does say that says a lot about it, doesn't it? So thank you so much to Connor Tierle there. On your corner? I would like to thank from Barrow Infinite's. Cumbria, great Britain, fantastic there, Jack Hall.

Jack Hall, that's a name you can set you watch to. Yeah, Jack Hall. Four and four, Jack Hall. Jack Hall. Jack Hall from where? Cumbria. Don't know anything about it, let's Cumbria. Tell me about Cumbria Dave. Barrow Infinite's is thererow in finesse is there.

Okay. Jack lives there. Oh, Jack Daniels. Yeah. It goes all right at the top. Jack Daniels. Yeah, all the top of what? Tennessee bourbon industry.

Oh, wow. Tennessee whiskey. Yeah. Yeah, whiskey. No. I don't know. Yeah, that's good. It is.

And what is it? Old number 49 is it the number? What's the number? Yeah, it's the certain recipe, isn't it? Old number seven. Old number seven. Oh, I don't know. Seven seven is a 49. All right, whatever. I drink seven bottles of night. Yeah, old number seven. It's a top selling American whiskey in the world. Oh, and I'm not a crook. Thank you. Perfection. Thank you, Jack Hall.

Hey, you mean more than Jack Hall to us? Beautiful. I would like to thank another one from Dublin and Dublin. Claire, Mulholl. Claire, Mulholl, another Dubliner. What about it goes all the way to the top and above the top? I'm talking about the edge.

Wow! You think Bono's calling the shots. He ain't nice. It's all about the edge. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The edge. Real name.

It's something like Greg Partridge or something. Oh, it's Greg Edge. Greg Edge. Greg Edge. Greg Edge. Sean Greg Edge's Greg Edge. Greg Edge. Greg Edge. Greg Edge. Sean Greg Edge, Dan Ode. Oh, I'm Greg Edge. Ah, I played a guitar.

Yeah. I'm putting on next set here, actually. Oh, I'm Irish. I'm Irish. I'm Irish. And not a kind of heavy, do you say that? Not a croc. I'm Greg Edge, I'm not a croc.

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Take that. That's right. Wow, so is that sort of the top of the, you know, theater? Is he sort of the head of theater? Yes, he's the head of theater. Bloody hell. And it goes all the way back to him. Yes. So now is the winter of our discontent.

I am not a crook. Perfect. Thou is not the crooketh. Thou shall not crooketh. Well that just brings us to the end of that section of the Patreon shoutout. It's thank you to everyone that does support us on Patreon and Matt, there's only one thing left to do before we put this baby home. Well, that's to get into the Triptage Club. See who we've got to welcome in this week.

And we have a few inductees. The way the Triptage Club works is if you assigned up to support us on the shout out level or above for three plus years, you get inducted into the Triptage Club, a beautiful club where we're really being curating a sweet vibe in here for a little while now. I'm on the door with the checklists, I got the door list here on the cookboard. Jess is putting together some more derves, some cocktails. Yes. Dave's booked a band. Who's your book this week, Dave? We've got West Life. Okay. Oh, boy band. Yeah, hell yeah. Is that Ronan Keating's band?

Yes. Yeah. Oh, I'm feeling there's also the other boy town, boys aren't. Boys aren't. Yeah, which is West Life. Look at what? West Life. All right, West Life, best life.

The other one's Brian McFadden. Brian? Holy shit. What do you believe? The first person to be inducted this week. Before we induct him though, just what are you serving here today? Where's life is Brian McFadden? Okay, fantastic, I love it. And they're great song,

swear it again. This week in honor of the topic, Watergate, we are serving water. You are shitting me. No, people people been asking for a while, but it didn't feel appropriate and today's the day We can actually serve water now as for food. I have pulled out a gate From out the front it's a little wooden gate so for us help yourself to bits of wood Yum love wood wood. Yep. All right.

I mean, all the other food is still up. And other bands are still playing. Little food, I've got a bit of wood. This is the worst combination music I've ever heard and drink. Oh, mate. I got water, good food. What a fucking thing.

Brian McFadden, mate. What did he want? I'm so sorry. So we can get Ron and Keating. We'll get him next week I'm gonna win out with Delta good surprises Oh, we got him well shit That's my line. Oh, no, who we got who we got all right. I'm gonna hide yeah

We're not work What we're talking about I'll hype up these people and they just will hype me up. I was looking ahead, there's a Ronan coming up but he's not here today. Who have we got today? Firstly, we got three days, okay. Oh, God. So start strong and strong, please.

And middle strong. Oh, really strong. Yeah, middle strong. From Mayfield Heights in Ohio, God's country, it's Nicholas Gilbert. Oh, I pronounce you not Gilbert. Yes Good to you. Yeah, thanks. Thanks for Sometimes I need just to explain and otherwise it doesn't make any sense that I feel I've

Might have forgot to explain that Dave hyped some up as they come in and to the the club and then just Hops up and down yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it to the momentum. Yeah, all right. Second up from human villain Tasmania, go absolutely beautiful country down there. Zach Luellen. Zach attack Luellen, yeah. Yeah. Zach middle name attack Luellen Papa, yeah. Thank you, thank you so much.

You're really trying to see me. Finally from Medford in Oregon in the United States. It's Connor Smith. Oh, let's put this to Medford! Come on! Put it to bed! Put it to bed! Was there not four? No, just three.

Three. You did it. You did it. Start strong and strong. Middle wasn't that great, but I feel like we brought it home. Yes, absolutely. Put it to Medford. Yes. My throat is horse from all that hyping. Well, like we brought it home. Yes, absolutely. Put it to bed, Fidget. Yes.

My throat is horse from all that hyping. Well, that brings us to the end of the episode. Jess, you can rest those golden tonsils for the night for, you know, 10 minutes or whatever you're doing. Thank you so much. Because that is the end. If people want to find us, they can find us a do-go-on pod on all the major things. Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, at gmail.com.com for our website patreon.com slash

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