Two In The Think Tank - 276 - The Assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand
Episode Date: February 3, 2021The assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand sparked the First World War, but who was he and what lead to his murder? Find out on this week's episode!Buy tickets to our four live Melbourne podcasts o...n March 28, April 4,11 and 18: https://www.trybooking.com/BOMAA Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodBuy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 12 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoonCheck out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasREFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.britannica.com/topic/morganatic-marriagehttps://www.britannica.com/biography/Franz-Ferdinand-Archduke-of-Austria-Estehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austria-Hungary
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do it manually. Okay. By using my voice, that is.
So thank you so much for listening to the show.
It was your first of a time.
And if not, let's have a brief recap.
What we do here.
We take it and turn to the report on a topic often, but not always suggested by a listener.
It is Matt's turn this week to report, Jess and I have no idea what he's going to talk
about for the next couple of hours.
And to get us on to that topic, he asks a little question.
Yes. And the question is like this, what event is said to have lit the spark of World
War One? Oh my God. Would that be the time that they lit that giant rocket?
Yes. Yes. And then it exploded and it said, fuck you. the time that they lit that giant rocket. Yeah, yes, yes.
And then it exploded and it said,
fuck you.
Yeah, fuck you.
And then both sides went, are they talking on me?
Yeah.
And then the other side went, are they talking on me?
Yeah.
Belgium, let this, let this back.
And then laughter, like behind it, behind everyone's backs.
Yeah.
And then, and then that's what happened.
So you know, that wasn't it.
Would this be the assassinations?
I was gonna say if you need a clue, how about this?
It's the assassination of which arch duke?
France's Ferdinand.
That's it.
The assassination.
Touch duke.
Take me out, friends. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I saw France Verden and live, a couple years ago.
What do they like?
What's that Melbourne venue that everybody hates?
Festival Hall.
Thank you.
It was at Festival Hall.
And it was France Verden and MGMT, bit of a weird combo.
Who went on first?
France.
And then do they play this one?
Michael, something, something Michael?
I don't know. Probably? Probably not. something, something Michael. I don't know.
Probably?
Probably not.
You know that one?
I don't know, but anyway, they were good,
but the venue, the acoustics do suck quite a bit.
Beatles played there.
I know they did.
Now it's owned by a big religious company.
Is it?
Well, I shan't be going back there then.
You hate religion.
A big religious company? Not for me, thank you.
Like, not a religious company, a religion.
Oh, I see.
I guess they're probably a company.
Yeah, I guess in a lot of ways.
Anyway.
So this has been suggested by Josh Johnson from Pennsylvania,
Evan Lloyd from Darbyshire, Jack Rasmussen from Salt Lake City,
and Alex Amoman, also from Pennsylvania.
Wow.
And Alex said this when he suggested it. Do you like murder and Alex Amaman, also from Pennsylvania. Wow. And Alex said this when he suggested it,
do you like murder and intrigue?
This is a story about a small political activist group
that changed the history of the entire world.
Wow.
So yeah, I mean, hopefully I can do the story justice.
That's really sucked me right in.
Yeah, so okay, well before we get right
on to the assassination, you might want to know, who was this france ferdinand? I do want to know,
I mean, it was an archju. I know nothing. Okay, well let me tell you about him. Okay, I don't know
anything about him either. Any connection to the band or coincidence. Pure coincidence. Pure consonants. Wow. They all say, let's just say, uh, letter H, F, all right, R, A, M.
I used that in Puegi board.
So Archduke, Franz Ferdinand, was born in 1863 in Graz, Austria.
He was the eldest son of Archduke Carl Ludwig, and Princess Maria Ananciada of Bourbon
Two Sicilies.
Which is a great name. Bourbon 2 Sicilies. Which is a great name.
Bourbon 2 Sicilies.
Yeah, that's a part of her synonymous verse.
Wow.
I don't really get the naming conventions back then.
There's probably some explanation for it,
but it doesn't seem like any of the immediate relatives
have the same synames necessarily, I don't know.
Archduke Carl Ludwig was the brother of the Emperor of Austria-Hungary, Franz Joseph
is another example.
Two brothers, totally different names.
And the son also.
So you got Ludwig is the brother of Joseph, their surnames, and Ludwig's son's surname
is Fernand.
So I'm guessing it's something else.
Anyway, tweet at me. I'll look forward to the answer. So yeah, he's the nephew of the king,
the emperor. Thoughtco.com writes, as a monarch, Franz Joseph was a staunch,
traditionalist and remains so well into the latter years of his reign,
despite the many great changes
that had led to the weakening of monarchical power
in other parts of Europe.
He resisted all notions of political reform
and viewed himself as the last
of the old school European monarchs.
Is that the only one who does it in a real OG way?
They don't make him like me anymore.
No, because everybody sold out. Everybody wants to like, I don't make them like me anymore. No, everyone's sold out.
Everybody wants to like, I don't know, move with the times
with some shit.
Not me.
Not me.
You know how fashion has changed?
I'm still wearing clothes from the 1940s,
which is where that is in the future.
I'm still actually wearing cavemen loincloths.
Yeah, because I actually keep looking at my life.
Yeah, so whatever loses. It was good enough for Adam Because I actually keep it for you. I haven't wanted to shoot my life.
Yeah.
So, whatever loses.
It was good enough for Adam.
It's good enough for me.
Give me that life.
According to biography.com, France Ferdinand began his military career at the age of 12.
I mean, it's like for me.
Yeah.
I like kids being kids, so I say start at 12.
Yeah.
Okay. Well, I like kids being good, start at one.
Okay.
Yeah, if you want to be the top.
That's why we can't raise children together.
We've had many, but we raised them several times.
I'm like, right, this one is going to the academy.
Just as like, not this one.
This one's going to be my little art friend.
I let all my children wear leaves and express themselves,
however they please.
They should.
They should do a reality show like the dance moms,
but be like military moms.
Oh, military moms is a good title.
Yeah.
Just an idea, just a million dollar idea.
So, join the military at 12.
It was sort of worked his way up through the ranks.
I'm sure no nepotism involved.
And I imagine him being a private and then being like telling him what to do.
And he's like, mate, I'm like the arch duke.
Oh, yes, sorry.
Sorry, yes.
You don't have to swap this poop deck.
And he became major general at the age of 31.
Oh, okay.
It took him age.
No, that's, I think it was a 13. He worked his way up over the next of 31. Oh, okay. I took him age. No, that's, I think it was a 13.
Yeah.
He worked his way up over the next 11 months.
Ha, ha, ha.
After the deaths of his father in 1896,
also the VFLFL was about to begin.
Quintinant?
So I think that the year was about to begin.
So the year before?
Yeah.
The year that was.
I thought it was the same year and then I, you know,
caught myself, I think that's anyway same year and then I caught myself.
I think that's anyway.
I caught yourself in a lie.
Yeah.
Just a 70 years before the Saints won their one
and then the Premiership.
Yeah.
Just found the corner.
So is Dad died in 1896 and Franz Joseph's only son,
Crown Prince Rudolph, died in 1889.
That meant that Franz Ferdinand had all of a sudden become the next in line to the
Austro-Hungarian throne. Wow. The Emperor wasn't too happy about this as Franz Ferdinand's thoughts
on how the Empire should be ruled were very different to his old school ways. He was a real new school
guy. So Franz Ferdinand would like wear shirts, for example. Oh, yeah. He wore clothing.
He wore clothes from the 1950s.
What?
Yeah.
So he looked like a weird spaceman.
Oh, yeah.
Two of his peers.
He was wearing basically a foil.
Yeah.
Aluminium foil wrap.
Is that how you say aluminum?
La-la-la-la-la-la-la.
Cheers.
As sort co-wrote. I just thought it would be better if I did it rather than reading it in a tweet.
You know, it comes from someone you love and who doesn't mind you.
To be fair, the tweet would say, did you just say aluminium as aluminium?
No, it's spelled differently over there.
No, it's not.
Yeah, it is.
What do they also spell it incorrectly. They spell it like aluminum.
That's wild.
I thought it was always spelled the same
and they were ignoring some letters.
As thought code.com writes,
France Ferdinand had little patience
for the ostentatious pomp of the ruling Habsburg class,
which is his family, basically.
He's from the, I don't know how to pronounce it,
it might be Hasburburg or Hababsburg, that's the house.
And they've been for centuries a version of that house
had ruled big chunks of Europe.
Wow.
Nor did he agree with his uncle's harsh stance
towards the rights and autonomy of the Empire's various
national groups.
He felt the old system, which allowed ethnic Germans and ethnic Hungarians to dominate
could not last.
Franz Ferdinand believed the best way to regain the population's loyalty was to make
concessions towards the Slavs and other ethnicities by allowing them greater sovereignty and
influence over the governance of the Empire.
He envisioned the eventual emergence of a type of United States of greater
Austria, with the Empire's many nationalities sharing equally in its administration. So
it's all like because it was an Empire throughout Europe, there was all sorts of nations included
in it, a lot of backgrounds. And he was supposedly trying to make it a bit more equal.
And that sort of sounded pretty noble,
but then on history.com,
it says that Ferdinand believed the Serbs
to be pigs, thieves, murderers and scoundrels.
Look, that's hard to get past.
Yeah.
But I mean, the Serbia was a country bordering the empire,
I think, but there were people with shared backgrounds inside
his empire. So obviously, I don't know how publicly he was saying these things. I imagine not super
publicly, because that wouldn't have gone down all that well. But yeah. See, you know, bloody politicians
and royals always lying. Yeah. Tell us what you really think, even if it's terrible.
Have the guts to say what we're all thinking.
No, now hang on.
Because we're all thinking the same thing.
If you follow that logic.
So it's probably fair to say that it was less noble and more pragmatic
that he was saying, I want to spread, I don't, I want to sort of spread
equality a bit more throughout the empire.
But that's basically to keep the empire intact.
Yeah, exactly. As thought co-continues, he believed strongly that this was the only way to keep
the empire together, to secure his own future as its ruler.
Right, not like everyone deserves rights. It's like, well, we need to give everyone a couple of
rights. Otherwise, I think I'm for the choppy.
Yeah.
Yeah, revolutions before.
I mean, it's, I mean, it's, it's smart.
But yeah, it's not just like he's gone.
I believe everyone should be equal.
I believe if they're not, they might not like me that much.
The result of these disagreements was that the emperor had little love for his nephew
and bristled at the thought of France Ferdinand's future ascension of the throne. Eight love for his nephew and bristled at the thought of France for now and future ascension of the throne.
Aided the idea.
Absolutely bristled.
He bristled.
Aided the idea.
Aided the idea.
Australia Hungary was one of Europe's major powers at the time, having been formed as a
dual monarchy after the Austro-Hungarian compromise of 1867.
I found all this stuff fascinating.
I was spent this week going down a rabbit holes all over the place
And then going, oh, this isn't quite relevant to the report. I haven't to pull myself back, but man
It's you know you understand why some people just get obsessed with the lead up to the world war and and European
History from these years. It's so complex. I mean like you know, it's so complex, I mean like, you know, it's always complex I suppose, but just a wild time.
So many nations forming and then ampires growing and shrinking and all sorts of stuff.
By the time of the assassination, it took in modern-day Austria, Hungary, those two are
reckon you could have guessed, as it was called Austria-Hungry. I don't know. I am stupid.
Also the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia and Herzegovina,
as well as parts of Italy, a small part, a little part of Serbia, Romania, Ukraine and Poland.
Wow. It was the second largest country in Europe at the time,
by area after the Russian Empire, and the third most populous after Russia and the German Empire. But the German Empire had only just formed a few decades earlier as well, which I find fascinating.
I mean like the mid 1800s sometime, that all these different empires, including Prussia,
which I found like a, what is this Prussia?
The Prussia was a big chunk of what is Germany now.
Dave, I know this is where your family's from,
so you've got your preaching in the choir here.
Thank you so much.
Just really saying that for me,
because I'm staring at him glass of God.
What?
But I mean, I would have been staring at you glassy-eyed
if you're saying this to me a week ago.
Yeah.
So that's the power of education.
Yeah.
You could not feel like an idiot.
If you just educate.
Yeah. Like how I said said preaching the choir before which was a phrase that was not relevant
At the time of saying
Yeah, like that I could have got away with it if this was just a conversation at a bar somewhere
Yeah, but unfortunately this is being recorded. No, I would have followed you the toilet instead actually mate
When you said preaching to the choir back then what did you mean by that?
It was the second oh yeah, okay, so second largest and third most populist. So it's big,
it's a big, big country. According to Thought Co again, the Empire boasted a multi-ethnic population
made up of at least 10 different nationalities. These included Austrian Germans,
Hungarians, Czechs, Slovak, Poles, Romanians, Italians,
Croats.
Croats, Croats.
Croats.
Croats, Croats.
And Bosnians among others.
But the Empire was far from United.
Its various ethnic groups and nationalities were constantly competing for control in a state
that was predominantly ruled by the Austrian German Habsburg family, of which France was a member.
And the Hungarian nationals, both of whom resisted
sharing the majority of the power and influence
with the rest of the Empire's diverse population.
For many of those outside the German Hungarian ruling class,
the Empire represented nothing more than an undemocratic
repressive regime occupying their traditional home lands.
Nationalistic sentiments and struggles for autonomy often resulted in public riots and clashes with
the ruling authorities. So there's a lot of tension. It's building and building over generations.
I'll get into these tensions later, but first I'll tell you about the tensions between
Ferdinand and his Emperor Uncle. I mean, I already touched them a little bit.
There was one thing that happened that really brought it to her head a little bit.
This is from Biography.com.
In 1894, France Ferdinand met Countess Sophia Chotec and the couple quickly fell in love.
However, marriage to a Hepsburg required that one be a member of a reigning or formally reigning
dynasty of Europe and the Trottax were neither. I was just some lowly noble family
from Czech Republic. So, like, do they do like a question here? So, just currently,
are you ruling any kingdoms? No. Previously, were you ruling any kingdoms? Uh-huh. No, okay.
I'm afraid the door list does not have your name on it to not.
He's just waiting inside lonely night, not often.
Sorry, he is so sorry.
Uh, the deeply in love, Franz Ferdinand refused to marry anyone else.
So the couple kept their relationship secret.
After the family was informed of their relationship, Emperor Franz Joseph refused
to give his permission to the marriage. Eventually, several influential European leaders, including
Pope Leo the 13th, argued on behalf of the love sick France.
Oh my God.
If you got the Pope and you're calling, that's got to be good.
It's also very funny that other people are weighing in and being like, come on.
Come on.
Hey, love.
They're cute. They're cute.
They're cute.
She's not from a ruling family, but she's,
you know, she's a Countess.
I don't think there's, I can't think of a couple
that I would really actively get behind.
A few of the Pope.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, let's say I'm the Pope.
Yeah.
You're the Pope.
You can't think of a couple you fight for.
No. Not even your own relationship.
No.
What does that say?
It's not even your own.
What do you mean?
Oh, God of all the Pope, I would not approve of this.
Oh, and let this happen.
That's for sure.
Luckily, I'm no Pope, baby.
I think the Pope, according to this article anyway,
on Bography.com was less about, hey, the loves love,
baby.
No, I reckon.
Hey, come on.
That's the vibe I'm getting from your storytelling.
Look at that.
They got it.
They got it.
They got it.
Look at this spark.
That's a once in a lifetime.
That's to a lot in up the room.
They called in the free love pope.
But, uh, free love.
Leo, they said they got The pope did think that the
disagreement between the uncle and nephew was undermining the stability of
the monarchy. Franz Joseph finally agreed on the condition that no descendants
of Franz and his new wife succeed to the throne. The couple married on July
the 1st 1900. So hang on. I can marry the person I want to marry and my kids don't
have to have the pressure of being the reigning monarch. Oh no. That sounds like a sweet
deal. Oh gee, let me think. Where do I fucking sign? Are you kidding me? I feel so bad for
the royal family. You know, like I look at William, I'm like, you seem nice.
What, you got to be the king someday.
That's gonna suck.
Yeah.
And then you look at little George, you're like,
ah, man.
Which kingdom is this one?
Uh, uh, Disneyland.
Disney. Wow.
Wow, they've got a lot of princes and princes.
I know.
So the badge and being the king.
Ooh.
Pressure.
There's a race.
So yeah, I'd be signing that deal. Oh okay I get to be with a person
I want to be with and I don't have to put the pressure on my children. I know.
So the Emperor... Is that what he thought? Yeah basically but despite
agreeing to the wedding he did not attend. Which is really just...
But did the RSVP and then not have been turned up? Oh that's fucked. agreeing to the wedding, he did not attend. Which is really just some.
But did the RSVP and then not a paternal?
You really don't do that.
Oh, that's fucked.
Yeah, because they probably would have waited
for the Emperor to arrive.
Did they get him a present from the registry though?
No.
Oh, he went solo and just bought something off the register.
No, not even.
Did he even put in for a toast?
What?
No, you are joking.
Wishing well.
He did.
He did tick beef though.
On the menu, so there was one extra steak.
What a fucker of the steak's a not cheap.
Yeah, that's the most expensive item.
You could have gone.
A chicken of fish.
It was like $40 per head.
Shit.
Fuck it.
No, I don't know.
I don't know how to host events.
Haven't you posted a wedding?
No.
She is.
Have you lived?
Sadly not.
Yeah, yeah.
You just don't believe it.
Jess is putting up her ring finger.
Oh no, it's not your ring finger.
It's your middle finger.
It's your ring finger.
Thing.
Shut up, Matt.
So even though he didn't attend it,
that wasn't the end of his sort of thumbing his nose to the wedding.
Due to Sophie's lower standing, he gave the marriage little respect.
According to History.com, Sophie also became the victim of countless petty slights.
Oh gosh.
At Imperial Banquets, for example, she entered each room last and was then seated far away
from her husband
at the dinner table.
What?
It was a weird, isn't it such a weird thing?
Oh my God.
She like, imagine that being the king leading an empire, sit it down there at the other end
of the show.
She's at the kids' table every time.
Imagine that being your in-laws, you know?
Yeah.
I just feel like, what am I doing here?
Yeah.
I'll stay home.
I can go back to my own castle, probably.
Despite the strange relationship between the Emperor and Franz Ferdinand, because I don't
know what the surname is or whatever, it's hard to break his name down.
I could say Franz or Ferdinand, I guess, and you know I'm talking about it.
Now I keep saying Franz Ferdinand.
It's fine when you just insist on saying so on his full name.
Isn't it Dave Warnakit? Thank you Jessica Perkins. Oh brutal. So despite this
Australian leadership, the Archduke, France Ferdinand remained the air to the throne,
making him one of the most important people in one of the big European powers of the time.
And he still can't get no respect for his wife? Yeah. I guess he's just waiting for the uncle
to die and then all of a sudden they know she'll get all the respect because he'll be the boss. I mean we've all got an uncle
we're waiting to die so we get respects you know I can relate to that. But I think like basically the
deal was that she wouldn't, she wouldn't get any of the stuff either. Like it's not just the kids
wouldn't be able to rule. Yeah. She't be the queen, I don't think.
Wow, that's brutal.
It seems so unnecessary, but there's like, you know, if you don't marry one of these three
people in the world, then...
Who's probably also your cousin?
Yeah, we should talk about soon that there was a lot of that.
I do enjoy the idea though that you're just thinking, great, well as soon as you're gone,
I'm the Emperor and whatever I say, fucking gun.
Yeah, exactly right.
Oh, what's that?
My kid is next in line?
Yeah.
Okay, that's back on.
Yeah.
Day one.
Yeah, that does feel like I'm in the room.
Fight and sign all the executive orders.
It's just like, well, just repeat all the shit that this old psycho said.
Yeah.
My uncle.
Yeah.
Love him.
First in pieces.
I got it.
Puff. I go. Perth.
Perth.
The relationship between the powers, these big European powers were very delicately balanced.
There was no one major power at the time.
Instead, there were five big powers.
And they were kind of splitting it to complicated alliances.
Electricity.
Gas.
Water. Hydro. Hydro. split in a two complicated alliances. Yes.
Water. Water.
Hydro.
Hydro.
So you're splitting water and hydro.
Is it two different powers?
Water slash hydro.
OK.
Solar.
You say solar?
Solar.
Radiation.
Radiate activity.
Euclipel.
Heart.
Go planets.
Yeah.
The worst, I'm so sorry, Marti.
But what was that?
That would be my, that was what I would choose.
Really?
As a kid watching Captain Planet, you chose heart.
Yeah, I'm all about emotional intelligence.
That's beautiful.
I'd like to connect to people, person to person.
As a ginger, I had to go fire.
Sure.
I mean, I was like, I'm a little bit illiterate.
I'm a little bit illiterate man.
Whatever his name was Greg.
Yeah, Wheeler.
He was Wheeler.
Greg, I think it was.
No, I think it was Greg. Weela. It was Weela. Greg I think it was.
That was Weela.
No I think it was Greg.
Greg Weela.
Greg Weela.
But everyone just called him Greg.
By his first name as his custom you call people by their names.
So.
Anyway.
Dave you probably were like I'll be the monkey or something.
Yeah I boo.
You think I'm a laddard?
Oh Bab he's had a name like that Marty's monkey.
You keep talking and I'll look at that.
So there were five big powers and what you said was wrong.
Okay, well everyone's enjoying your pizzazz, I'm sure.
Thank you.
That's literally the point of the show.
Live feedback, love that.
You're giving pizzazz and I'm giving a sass.
So the five big powers were split in a two complicated alliances.
On the one side there was Russia, France and Britain, and on the other side, Austria-Hungary,
and the relatively new country of Germany.
Amazingly of these five powers, three were ruled by grandsons of Britain's Queen Victoria.
So that makes them all cousins.
That's right.
According to the BBC,
Queen Victoria was sometimes called the grandmama of Europe.
And there was hardly a continental court
that did not boast at least one of her relations.
During World War I,
there were no less than seven of the old Queen's direct descendants
and two more of her co-bergolations on European thrones.
Far out.
And that'sohild.
For the...
For the...
For the nuts.
But three were the big...uh, of the big players. Three of the big powers.
So for the rulers of the world, three greatest nations. This is still from BBC.
I'm not sure.
I'm binging themselves up a little bit.
One of those Bees is for butts. I think one of the others is British. British butts.
Come.
British butts and cucks.
And come.
That's the BBC.
That's the BBC.
There's another, and the other sea.
It's the BBC, say.
Sorry?
BBC, say.
But somehow there's three seas based on what I've just said.
BBC, cc.
Yeah.
The third one, the third one.
Yeah, the third one's a tarpa.
Ah, BBC, cc.
Is that something?
So, it was from the BBC.
For the rulers of the world's three greatest nations, King George V of Great Britain and
Sa, Zah, Nicholas II of Russia, on the one hand, and the German Kaiser will harm the
second on the other, they were not simply cousins, they were first cousins.
If their grandmother Queen Victoria had still been alive, said the Kaiser, they were not simply cousins, they were first cousins. If their grandmother
queen Victoria had still been alive said the cause, she would never have allowed them to go on a war
with each other. Hey Christmas being like, I apologize, I apologize now. You stopped this world
war right now. She has a big t-shirt that has three heads in it and she makes them all wear it
and it's a friendship t-shirt and they could take it off after they've made up. And the four other monarchs are like,
what are we there t-shirts?
She's like, well, well,
and one of the three great actions.
What do you want to do?
Have a fucking t-shirt with seven heads?
Don't be ridiculous, Matt.
It's a three-headed t-shirt.
Come on.
We've all heard of that.
Ha ha ha ha.
Definitely that's a thing.
Come on, nah.
She died in 1901, so a year after the wedding.
Apart from Germany, Britain and Russia, the other European
throne's a direct descendant set on,
were in Greece, Romania, Spain and Norway.
Who's heard of any of them?
As places, yeah.
What?
Yeah.
Norway. Whatever happened to that one. Norway. What? Yeah. So are they?
Norway.
Whatever happened to that one.
Norway.
That's silly.
That's not a thing.
Norway.
Someone punking you, man.
You're making shit up, man.
No, I read this.
I'll read this.
This is supposed to be a fact-based comedy podcast.
You're reading a little heavily into the comedy, my friend.
That's right.
If I'm making up bullshit.
Is that supposed to sound like no way?
Yeah, no way. Like, Norway. Is that what's supposed that supposed to sound like no way? Yeah, no way, like no way.
Is that what's supposed to be?
Oh, sorry, I was trying to punk you guys.
Yeah, you have to get up.
You have to get up.
You have to get up.
Yeah, you have to get up.
We know it's actually pretty late, right?
It's cool.
According to the Imperial War Museum website,
the creation of a unified Germany in 1871,
I said somewhere in the mid-1870s,
1871 to be precise, had disturbed the old balance of power in Europe.
Fear of Germany encouraged France and Russia to form an alliance in 1894,
this pushed Germany into closer alliance with its neighbour,
the Austro-Hungarian Empire.
During the 1900s, a dangerous rift arose between Russia and Austria-Hungary,
who had conflicting ambitions
in South Eastern Europe, which is sort of coming, that's a lot of that tension is where
the old assassination happened and what led to it.
This conflict was one of the many keys to the following events.
According to Britannica, France Ferdinand tried to restore the Austro-Russian understanding
without endangering the alliance for Germany, without luck obviously.
And from 1906 onward, France Ferdinand's influence in military matters grew.
On October 6th, 1908, Austria-Hungary announced it was annexing Bosnian Herzegovina, officially
taking it over from the faltering Ottoman Empire. So they'd sort of been in there for a
little while, maybe a few decades. But now with the Ottoman Empire
starting to crumble, they went in and officially annexed it,
saying this is now part of our empire.
Franz Ferdinand apparently opposed the annexation, thinking it
would make these tense political situations worse,
but when ahead, regardless.
I mean, I think a lot of paperwork.
Oh, yeah.
Annexing a country.
Yeah.
Against a lot of the inhabitants will.
Yeah, and then you've got to update your maps all the time.
Yeah.
Oh, great time to be like a cartographer.
Yeah, nowadays, it's like, well, I mean, do you want to know what's the different colours
or mostly green? Yeah, that's right. How many times I mean, do you want to lots of different colors or mostly green?
Yeah, that's right.
How many times can I read as on this map?
Yeah, so that's, you know, it's tough.
When South Sudan came in a couple of years ago,
the Globe man goes like, finally, thank goodness.
We're gonna have to redo it.
I was literally putting a padlock on the factory,
we were going under.
Yeah, we were out.
We were out.
Everyone's got a globe.
And then I got the phone call and I called back all the staff
who were walking away, holding their hats, sadly.
And I said, guys, hey, come back.
We've got globes to make and they cheered,
they threw their hats up in the air.
It was beautiful.
That is beautiful.
Yeah, that was me when I owned a globe factory.
Wow. Yeah, I sold the globe I owned a globe factory. Wow.
Yeah, I sold the globe factory.
It's doing incredibly well.
I'm rich.
Whoa, you sold it at the right time.
Yeah, yeah.
Perfect.
A savvy business woman, like I said, I'm rich.
Don't look into it.
Yeah, but I didn't say perfect.
Ha.
This is from history.com, and this is about
when the annexation.
When the rebellion by the Committee of Union and Progress, the so-called Young Turks, I
knew that term, Young Turks, but I didn't know that was what it came from.
They took the Ottoman government by storm in 1908.
Their Baron Aloes von Arentel, who was the foreign minister of Austria-Hungary,
so is Empire's chance to assert its dominance in the Balkans.
So the France Fernandes like, don't do this, but Baron Aloes von Arenthal thought,
I'm gonna do it anyway. This is my shot. So he saw the, the Sultan's weakness there.
He saw this as the opportunity, but also Russia,
their great rival for power in the Balkans was also reeling.
It had just been done in the Russo Japanese War
and internal revolution of 1905.
So Russia was on the back foot a little bit
after a big loss in Japan.
He saw a lot of wars.
Yeah. I know I never He sells a lot of wars. Yeah.
I know, I never knew about a Russian Japanese war.
No.
I think so.
But again, I'm stupid.
So I don't know much.
Well, if you don't know about a war in 1905,
you are stupid.
I'm stupid.
I'm glad you said it.
Should I go back to school, Billy Madison style?
Yeah, if you won't want to take over the Empire.
Yes.
Of course.
Well then, yeah, you should.
Okay, well, that's settled.
That's settled.
Are you going to go now?
Are you going to wait to end episode?
I might wait until it's morning.
Okay, great.
At an appropriate school time.
I can.
But then you have to go to school.
So the announcement in October of 1908
of Austria-Hungary's annexation of Bosnia and Herzegovnia
upset the fragile balance of power in the Balkans
in raging Serbia and pan-slavic nationalists
throughout Europe.
Though weak in Russia was forced to submit
to its humiliation, it's foreign office still viewed
Austria-Hungary's actions as overly aggressive
and threatening. Russia's response was to encourage pro-Russian, anti-Austrian sentiment in Serbia
and other Balkan provinces, provoking Austrian fears of Slavic expansionism in the region.
So I just sort of had a low-key campaign that they couldn't fight
in the old school guns can't away.
But they're just like sending messages whispering.
Austria's shit passed on.
That's what I'm saying.
That suck.
You guys should, you should boot.
I heard they still wet the bed.
Yeah, that sort of stuff, or I can.
And that's to give their mom to change their sheets
in the middle of the night.
No.
That was what, yeah.
Official comment from Austria, hungry. No. No. I, yeah. Official comment from Austria-Hungary.
No.
No.
A dime.
No, it didn't happen like that.
Mom, tell him.
I can't.
And so there, there was starting to fear Austria
and Hungary, the Austria-Hungary.
We're starting to fear this, the Slavic expansionism.
And it sounds like these fears were pretty justified
according to the thought co-article the majority of Serbs were staunch nationalist and the Serbian
kingdom just to just off to the side of Austria-Hungary saw itself as the great hope for the sovereignty
of Slavic peoples in the Balkans. The great dream of Serbian nationalist was the unification
of Slavic peoples in a single sovereign state.
I wanted to grow Serbia basically to have a big empire with all the Slavic nations, so
I'd rather them being bowing down to this Austrian and Hungary empire.
Pro-Ostrian monarchs had ruled Serbia since the late 19th century, but the last of these monarchs, King Alexander
the First of Serbia, was deposed and executed in 1903. Oh dear. So yeah, it's interesting,
he was a Serbian king, but he was faithful to the Austrian Empire, but the people under him didn't love that and eventually that led to a coup d'état.
How long for?
Let's say two days.
Safe to assume.
A two-day coup d'état.
A blipso.
The best length.
Which is now known as the May coup.
Among the others, killed in it were the Queen, the Prime Minister, and
the Minister of the Army. It was a full-on coup d'état. Wow! It's probably longer than
two days around them all. Yeah, good point. Yeah, I think it was pretty quick.
22-day coup d'état? Yeah, that's good. This next little bit about the coup d'état
is from this great resource called Wikipedia.org.
Okay.
And it's got great info on there to recommend looking it up.
Kind of pretty much, and anything.
But it's kind of underrated.
For example, you could look up Captain Planet
and find out that the monkey's name is in fact,
Suki or Suchi, my apologies.
You could do that, you should.
Why don't you?
Because then you could find out if that's true or not.
That is from wikipedia.org.
Wow.
Fantastic stuff.
This is also from wikipedia.org.
The Royal Couples murder upset and shocked most of Europe.
So I think it seems fair enough.
I'm shocked 100 years later.
The King and Queen have been killed.
Yeah, that would be it. I reckon that would make easily top five pages of a newspaper now. Yeah, really so page five
Easily somewhere. Yeah, no page one. One page one is still a sale on white goods at Harby Norman. Yeah,
Of course. Well, you know, then his paper industry isn't doing so. Whatever it is.
The first four pages are ads, but that fifth page
you have this Royal Couples murder.
And then another four pages of ads, exactly.
So a lot of shock through Europe,
but many Serbs reacted enthusiastically.
Russia immediately recognized the National Assembly's decision
declaring P to the First as the next King of Serbia
and expressed satisfaction that the
inter-dynastic intrigues which had plagued the country since the early 19th century had
been brought to an end.
Oh, they were like, well, that's the end of that chapter.
Isn't that funny?
They were like, well, obviously, this violent coup d'état will probably, that'll be the
end of that.
I imagine we'll have smooth sailing from here.
So we've also killed the elected prime minister and also the head of the Army, but this guy's
Peter. Pretty good.
Pointer.
Welcome, Pete.
Austria-Hungary declared its neutrality on the matter, but privately, policymakers in Vienna
expressed hope that Peter's ascension would have a placating effect. They're like, well,
now they've got the guy they want
in there, hopefully this will all settle down
and I'll just happily be a part of our empire now.
Sounds to be like everyone's hoping,
Ruffa is hoping that as well, right?
Everyone's just sort of crossing their fingers.
Well, I believe we can just put this pillow
over our face and when I wake up tomorrow
everything will still be.
Do you still have a pillow on top of your face, Dave?
I actually do.
On top of your face.
Because of the eye thing. Yeah, Dave. I actually do. On top of your face. Yeah.
Because of the eye thing.
Yeah, I don't like light.
So you put a pillow over the top of your face?
In the morning when the light comes in, yes.
OK.
It would look like you're trying to put yourself down.
Yeah.
Does your girlfriend ever help by pressing it down a little?
Yeah, yeah.
Is this what you need?
She's like, can you see light?
Can you see light now?
I'm going to walk you a lot.
Go to walk you a lot. Ha ha ha ha.
That's good.
Interesting.
But I don't think Russia was really hoping that.
I think they wanted things to kick off.
Because they wanted to be taken territory down there.
Oh, OK.
This is still from Wiki.org.
The United Kingdom demanded that the chief conspirators
be severely punished, and when
the Royal Serbian government neglected to carry out this request, the British severed
all diplomatic ties.
Several other European nations followed in the UK's footsteps and severed ties as well.
Peter, King Peter, the first, lacked the power or authority to punish the conspirators.
He also felt a deep sense of obligation towards them, acknowledging that he would not have
been able to assume the throne were it not for their actions.
We're not that they killed his predecessors.
Guys, to be fair, I wouldn't be speaking with you right now, they hadn't done that,
so I'm pretty cool with it.
I just feel like I own one.
Yeah, you know what? I don't know. I just feel like I own one. Yeah, you know what?
Like, I don't know.
I just, they scratch my back.
I scratch there.
You know what I mean?
They cut off that guy's hair that I cut mine off hopefully
and comes picking nicely about them.
I mean, even just that coup d'état was, yeah.
Sounded like it was, there was,
there's a few different stories about it,
but one of them was that they had a safe room,
the King and Queen, but there was a party or something and their wardrobe was blocking
their exit from it, so they ended up when they stormed the palace, they found them
there trapped.
Because of a wardrobe malfunction.
Because of a wardrobe malfunction.
Imagine that.
But there was another story that they were hiding in that wardrobe, which seems like
that was never going to be an easy escape from that.
One of them is there was a tunnel and a secret escape out the back and the other one, they
were hiding in a cupboard.
They were wearing a dressing gown and hanging on a coat hanger, hoping that someone would
open it all clear in here.
Just dressing gowns.
Yeah.
That's I mean all this stuff like these stories
and how frequent they were,
there were like these weren't standalone.
This wasn't fully out of the blue or anything.
There were times where people just got killed.
Like this whole story is leading up to a royal being murdered.
Yeah, you really started with a spoiler too.
Yeah, sorry.
With disemointing.
It's like, oh, what's going to happen?
I know.
Don't get too attached.
It's amazing that this, you know, you think of the being,
we're living in wild times lately,
but it's got nothing on some of this stuff.
Yeah, it's true.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
It's weird that humans have so much faith in ourselves
to be good, but it's like, we've got no evidence
to be good.
What a track record.
Pick a 10 year period of any time you should.
It's been shit house.
Like we really suck.
Uh, so the execution was carried out by conspirators
believed to have connections to the black hand.
A secret military society formed in 1901
by officers in the army of the Kingdom of Serbia.
So actual officers in the Serbian army.
It's one of the most, I don't know,
like depending on who you are,
you probably see them as goodies or baddies,
probably more people baddies, I don't know.
But that name is bad as.
Incredible. Did you know of that? Dave?
Were you just reacting to cool sounding names? Yes, I do
I believe we'll be hearing more from them, but I do also I was reacting because it is one of the cool
Snames. Yeah, it's very good. I remember it because it's like
Holy shit. Yeah, I got scared immediately like someone they were going around the the table mentioning and as soon as that name came up
They went well don't even bother with any other suggestions.
And like, am I booking the black hand party co
to do my child's birthday party?
No, it's terrifying, you know what I mean?
Like it's very clear immediately that it's scary.
Yeah, I don't know what,
because I'm picturing like a black leather glove.
Same.
And it's strangling you.
Nothing scary.
It's just a hand crawling along the toes.
Hahaha.
Like the head.
Like a thing in the head.
I don't say it.
But weirdly, like that should have creeped me up.
But I liked the thing.
Yeah.
That's what he was funny.
He was gay.
Or it was funny.
It was funny.
Is it?
The later a photo was a man, I don't know.
Yeah. Oh, good point. And did he ever wear a man? I don't know. Yeah.
Oh, a good point.
And did he ever wear a glove?
But then there's cousin Eat as well.
There is cousin Eat as well.
There is also cousin Eat.
Right.
He sounded so funny.
Yeah.
And I had a little hat on.
That's funny.
I really did enjoy that show a lot.
Yeah.
So to explain the black hand a little bit more, this from Thoughtco.
The aim of the black hand was the unification of all Southern Slavic peoples into a single
Slavic nation, state of Yugoslavia, with Serbia as its leading member, and to protect
those Slavs and Serbs still living under Austro-Hungarian rule by any means necessary.
The group relished in the ethnic and nationalistic strife that had overtaken Austria-Hungry and
sought to stoke the flames of its decline. Calished in the ethnic and nationalistic strife that had overtaken Austria-Hungary and sought
to stoke the flames of its decline.
Anything that was potentially bad for its powerful northern neighbour was seen as potentially
good for Serbia.
The high ranking Serbian military positions of its founding members put the group in a unique
position to carry out Klandestan operations deep within Austria-Hungry itself.
Love clandestine as a word.
This included army colonel Dragoutin Demitrivic,
who would later become the head of the Serbian military intelligence,
and also the leader of the Black Hand.
Leader Dragoutin.
The Black Hand frequently sent its spies into Austria-Hungry
to commit acts of sabotage order for meant
Discontent amongst Slavic peoples inside the Empire their various anti-Austrian propaganda campaigns were designed
You were spent
You gonna vote for somebody who worth a bit
Yeah, if you want it, that's fine. I mean our Prime Minister has been
Accused of shitting himself in a mackage. Yeah Yeah, if you want it, that's fine. I mean our Prime Minister has been accused of
shitting himself in a mackage. Yeah, that's funny. He's still our Prime Minister. Yeah, I don't think this
was like trying to affect votes. This was more trying to recruit people to violently overthrow via
piss. Yeah, piss is on the bed. Oh, it'll do it. Here comes Prince Pisser.
It's a real power move.
Pissin.
So that's right, pissin on your people. Yeah.
Yeah.
That's powerful.
My dog does it.
Oh well, if you've got a powerful, powerful stream.
That's right.
So the various propaganda campaigns were designed, especially to attract and recruit
angry and restless Slavic youths with strong nationalistic sentiments.
That's all from that thought-co article.
Of these youths, three were named Gavrillo Princip, Trifco Grubez, and Nidelco Caprinovic.
We'll talk more about them in a minute, but as fair to say, when Archduke Franz Ferton
and Agrade to visit the newly annexed
Bosnia and Herzegovina in June of 1914, there was a huge amount of tension simmering in the
background and probably in the foreground too. Sounds more actually, it's probably more foreground.
We got three days simmering, but I mean it was, I think it was foreground because apparently
Ferdinand reportedly said to a few people beforehand, like, I reckon there might be some bullets waiting for me down there and sorry,
and he had premonitions of dying and stuff apparently.
And yet he was like, let's go!
Anyway, that's an invite.
I love it, I love it.
I love it. I love it, man.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it.
I love it. I love it. I love it. I love RSV paid. Yeah. Prick. Such a prick. Puff.
Ha ha ha ha.
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The plan visit divided locals. It wasn't particularly popular. They've just been
officially taken in as part of the Austrian Hungarian Empire, and a lot of the people down there
were not happy about it. According to Britannica, Balkan politics were turbulent,
and the neighboring kingdom of Serbia covered Bosnia. Moreover, the date chosen for this imperial visit in Hasburg,
show of force, was June the 28th, a black date in Serbian history.
It was the anniversary of the Turkish victory over Serbia
at the Battle of Kosovo in 1389,
which was many centuries early,
but apparently still a very important date there.
And this fan, the flames of descent
among Serbian nationalists even further.
And if you like that,
Ferdinand and his, Krony said,
pick that date on purpose?
It doesn't, well, I hadn't read anything suggesting that
because remembering that Ferdinand supposedly
is not trying to, he's trying to be like,
hey, we're all in the together and stuff.
I don't think he was going there to be like,
oh, he fuck heads, I'm here to rule over you.
That's the impression I've got from what I'm doing.
Oh, this is an important day for you,
not anymore, fuckos.
Yeah.
He's not doing that.
Okay, but it sounds like if he wasn't aware,
he was a bit naive to it at the very least,
but I'm not sure. Maybe he could.
Did they have like Google Calendar or Wikipedia back then?
Exactly.
Look it up.
Look it up, mate.
Yes, on this day, surely you've got someone looking stuff up for you.
Are you serious?
Next in line of the throne.
Insane.
And you're not looking shit up.
You're not looking shit up.
What is wrong with you?
What are you doing?
You shouldn't be in that position.
I'm with your grandfather or uncle or whoever the fuck it is now.
Uncle Stan.
Remains uncle throughout his life.
No.
He's like, look, he's rocking out.
He hasn't graduated.
Well, he was my uncle, but...
Yeah, he's my grandfather.
Pump him up the grandfather.
You can do that.
Yeah.
I call all my uncles grandpa.
Just to confuse him.
Before your grandpa's uncle?
No, I call him, I call my grandpa Dave.
And his name is Eddie.
Well, that is confusing.
That's broken my brain.
I'm confused.
No, everyone thinks he has Alzheimer's, but really,
I'm just confusing him.
He can say, my name's Eddie.
And everyone's like, yeah, okay.
We know, and I'm going, can I Dave?
Could you see him?
He gone hell.
So I've been giving a lot of, I mean, there's all been backgrounds so far, but now we're
getting to the action of the...
Getting to the foreground?
Yes, we're getting to the foreground now.
As well as the Serbian hate is in the foreground.
Yes, gotcha.
And I'm taking a lot of this part of the story from a few different history.com articles
Great website. I've already
Quoted three different history.com articles. I think they really they they like the story of the
World War one. Yeah, they get pretty keen on
I don't know history. Yeah, oh, yeah, that's what I would argue
They love it. Okay, no, if you loved history so much then why you're written on a parchment.
Yeah, I didn't think so.
Yeah, fuck heads.
God damn.
Let's get everyone.
Should we?
Yeah.
Alright, line them up.
Who's next?
Who's next?
Come on.
Here we go.
Alright, well, when we get to someone you really want to wrap it.
Yeah, I'm going to fucking let it rip.
And then I'm going to tell them I'm going to be so far behind him.
Burr.
It says from hisj.com.
Upon learning of Ferdinand's upcoming visit, the Young Bosnians, a secret revolutionary
society of peasant students, began plotting to assassinate him.
Straight up, he was coming.
That a different target earlier, didn't quite work out, couldn't get it together in time.
Seems like they just keen to assassinate. They want to make a big statement. Well, they are, work out, couldn't get it together in time. Seems like they're just keen to assassinate.
They want to make a big statement.
Well, they're, I mean, these are young guys.
These ones are talking about the mango, 19-year-old.
Wow.
And they've sort of been radicalized, I guess, via the black hand and other such organizations.
In May, Gavrilo Princep, Trifco Grab Grubbers, and Nadelco, Cabrinavitch,
traveled to the Serbian capital of Belgrade, where they received six handheld bombs,
four semi-automatic pistols, and cyanide suicide capsules from members of the so-called Black
Hand, a terrorist group, with its close ties to the Serbian Army.
Right, I was wondering who was giving them that first it sounded a bit like as they crossed the border.
Welcome, please come on in.
What would you like, showbiz?
How many suicide capsules should I put in here?
Six.
There's a guy on the phone.
There's people that scoop and stuff out.
How many scoops would you like?
Punitive cyanide please.
After practicing with their pistols in a Belgrade Park,
the three men journeyed back to the...
I didn't just walk in the dog.
People are just practicing gum.
Soon shoot.
And they yelling,
Cop that, France, Ferdinand.
Yeah.
And you're like, oh my god, they're trying to shoot my dog, France, Ferdinand.
Please come along.
From away from there.
That was not you, there's no...
Cop that, France, Ferdinand, it's given away too much.
Cop that, Archduke, F Ferdinand. Yeah, there we go. No. Cop that, Archduke, they're not. Copped that French, I don't know, it's given away too much. Copped that archduke F Ferdinand.
Yeah, there we go.
No.
Copped that archduke France F.
And then they're winking as if they're.
So they're practiced with their pistols as well from his joke on.
The three men journey back to Bosnia,
receiving help from black hand associates
to smuggle their weapons across the border.
It does feel like they're like,
hey, little, hey, boys.
Do the hard stuff for us.
We've got jobs, we're in the army.
We can't do an assassination in the carousels.
Do you want to?
Do you want to do it?
How'd it be great?
How'd it be really good for us?
Hope you get a little gun.
That'll be fun.
To this day, it remains unclear whether the Serbian government
participated in the scheme.
So there's still a lot of merciness around it.
It was still from history.com.
Ferdinand and Sophie departed their estate for Bosnia Herzegovnia on June 23rd.
Having received multiple warnings to cancel the trip, the Archduke knew that danger
potentially awaited them.
After arriving at a spa town a few miles outside of Sarajevo.
I'm listening. The capital of Bosnia. And Ferdinand attended two days of military exercises
while Sophie visited schools and orphanages. So it's a classic, you know, like a royal tour.
Yeah. Like I watched the crown and there's a lot of that in that.
Absolutely. They show it painstakingly in the detail and the crown of
of that in that. Absolutely. They show it painstakingly in the detail in the crown of
Diana and Charles, coming around Australian stuff. On a whim, the couple drove in one evening to check out Sarajevo's bazaars. While there, they attracted a crowd of onlookers, including
Princeip, the guy who was training to kill him. But nothing happened and apparently they were treated with warmth and politeness.
He hugged them both. Yeah. And he said, I'm going to kill you tomorrow. Pardon what?
Said so nice to meet you. Oh, thank you too. Tomorrow. I'll see you tomorrow. Great.
This is where the address where we're staying. Room 103. Yeah, you seem very nice. He's
up in. He's a key. Yeah. He's up fin. Hey, I'm an open door kind of ruler.
That's right. That's me. Well, I mean, as you'll hear, I'll say it now, they published ahead
of time the routes that we're going to drive along in their open top Okay. Did he also draw a little like target on his head?
Yes.
Which was missed and got him in the neck,
but anyway, we'll get to that.
Following a banquet with religious and political leaders,
only one day of events remained before third and end
and so if you would have returned home.
That morning, June 28, the Archduke Center telegramed
to his elder son, congratulating him
on his latest exam results
I broke my heart. I don't know why I read him that broke my mind like oh man
The archjuic is a good dad. So they did have kids. Yeah. I've read somewhere that Sophie's pregnant But that doesn't seem to come up a lot
But if it is this is even more fucked. What's about to happen? Oh my god stop spoiling it
This is even more fucked, what's about to happen. Oh my God, stop spoiling it!
He and Sophie then boarded a train
for the short ride into Sarajevo.
For once, Sophie was permitted to walk alongside
for an and during a brief troop inspection.
Oh my God, Sophie, congratulations.
I thought the uncle was like, fine, have it.
Once.
I get, maybe it was just he wasn't around.
Yeah, that's right, actually.
And he's telling
you run don't tell Uncle. Please don't tell Uncle. Don't tell Uncle. So after that the couple got
in an open top car for a motorcade ride to City Hall. The car in front of them was supposed to carry
six specially trained officers but instead had only one plus three local policemen. What were the
other five?
In fact, throughout the trip,
Austro-Hungarian officials allegedly
focused more attention on dinner menus
than security details.
This is still according to history.com.
It's a wild zing, a hundred and something years later.
They won't worry about food poisoning
than assassination.
Oh, is that what you're thinking?
Maybe.
He's got a very delicate stomach.
Yeah, I'd try exactly.
If he gets the runs, Parade's gonna be very difficult for him.
He's in an open top carb, and still it'll smell really bad.
So there were seven young Bosians, I mentioned three earlier.
They spread out along the route, and they'd all had bombs
and guns and stuff.
So that was like, if the first guy doesn't do it,
the next guy will, there's a bunch of... Holy shit.
...to do it. And so they were spread out across a pale cave.
That also gives you, like, if you're the first guy, you're like, wow, I'll let him go.
This is five, six more of these bombs. That is exactly what happened the first guy lost his nerve.
So don't worry about it, I'm not the last.
If you're the seventh person, you're like,
fuck, don't put this on me!
How has he got here?
But you'd be at the first, you'd be like,
how to be done easily before you're in the next six hours.
I haven't even looked at how to throw this,
like, activate this bomb.
I won't have to do anything, but I'll say,
I wouldn't bloody done it.
I would've.
Bloody hell.
That's right, I definitely would have. So that so the
main route was along this road, which ran parallel to the Miljaka River, when the motorcade passed by
with Onits route that had been pre-published, Cabronovic, Cabronovic,
asked which car carried the archduke. So that already passed one guy, he didn't, he lost his nerve,
then it's going past Capronovitch, who I believe was dying of tuberculosis or something. So he was
sort of like, I'm going anywhere. I only saw that on one video, but I took that guy's word,
I've already said it in a British accent. Oh, that makes it true. That makes it much sucker for those scholarly sounding
brits. That's right.
That's right.
That's why I love a dow.
I trust anything she says.
Of course.
So Cabranovic, so which of the cars
has got the archstuking it and someone said,
that one.
So then he hurled his bomb at the car.
That's in that e-be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
I'm not even looking for a photo.
I am not involved.
Jesus.
The bomb bounced off the folded up roof.
So it's an open top limousine car with the roof folded back,
canvas roof, whatever.
It bounced off the roof rolled under the car behind,
exploding which wounded two army officers and several
bystanders, but left third and out and Sophie essentially unharmed. Apparently
Cabronovitch then swallowed a cyanide pill. I got this from hardcore histories. He swallowed
the cyanide pill, jumped into the river, basically going double-chance to, he's just
going to kill himself, one of these two ways.
The cyanide pill apparently didn't have the desired effect, only made him spew up.
And then the riverbed wasn't, there wasn't enough water in there to drown, and it was quickly apprehended.
So he was just spushing about in the mud. And his own vomit. Yeah.
Just had a spew for nothing. But then apparently did...
Oh, I spewed for this.
When did you spew for anything, Jess?
What a weed thing to say.
Oh God, I'm planning on spewed for nothing.
What a waste of it.
What a waste of it.
What a waste of oil.
What a waste of it.
What a waste of it.
What a waste of it.
What a waste of it. What a waste of it. What a waste of it. What a waste of oil.'s a point of that spew. Ugh. So this is back to the history.cov article.
Why do I say anything?
It's very insane.
I love it.
I like it.
I don't think I'll speak for a bit.
I'll go on time out.
You go.
No, I love it.
No, don't say that, Dave, out of pity.
So as he's being taken away according to hisu.com,
he shouted out, I'm a Serbian hero. Sort of yelled according to hisu.com, he shouted out,
I'm a Serbian hero, sort of yelled out to the crowd.
All right.
Okay, but not.
So it might have been a really good spew.
I just had a vomit.
I just had a vomit.
We've all screamed that while we're being carried out
of a pub.
Innocent people.
He's just yelling,
I'm never drinking side-eyed again
Someone's holding his hair back
Carole
Sorry
You saying that to the police, men are asking him. I love you.
Okay, now I wait till.
Apparently a couple of the young Bosians who were there to kill had good looks and didn't
take their chances.
I think, you know, these young kids are going, wait, what am I, I don't want to kill someone.
I get, you know, I'm putting thoughts into their heads.
But rather than immediately flee Sarajevo,
Ferdinand decided to continue on to the planned event
at City Hall.
Principe was like, I think he sort of assumed
that the bomb had worked, and then he found out later,
and he's like, oh shit, so he was just sort of like
hanging around town.
But Fernand's like, what a pro, he's like,
oh, we'll still go, I almost got blown up,
but I'll go to this event at the city hall,
you know, I don't wanna let people down,
let my uncle do that time to me.
That's not a link?
Varus V-Pate.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Artic B.
I mean, exactly.
I'm not letting another state go to waste.
And then, so after that event, he insisted on visiting the wounded officers in the hospital.
He's like, I gotta go visit them.
They put their lives online for me.
I gotta go visit them.
They, then they went quickly.
So they drove quickly back down that main route but they're going to
obviously turn off to go a different way because they're now going to hospital which wasn't planned.
And at this point the driver of his car, possibly a few cars in the motorcade, made the wrong turn,
not realizing there'd been a change of plans. That's what the first car goes down and everyone's up there.
Hey, well, follow us.
Sure, Tony knows where he's going.
Yeah.
And they turned down what was a very busy street,
a Franz Joseph Street.
Wow.
Which is the uncle's name, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So.
And a glacier.
Wow.
Really, Franz Joseph Glacier.
So, that was obviously named during his reign, I suppose.
Maybe.
Could be a coincidence.
So, yes.
On being told that he'd made the wrong turn,
the driver stopped to try and reverse back, but stalled.
Oh, how embarrassing.
So, on a busy street too.
Everyone's looking Oh my God.
Everyone's looking.
Oh God.
As it turned out, the location they stopped and stored was horribly unlucky as it was where
Gavarillo concept was standing.
Get fired.
Right in front of it.
No way.
Yeah.
And he's about to take history forever.
That's incredible.
According to the Smithsonian, for the Archduke to be presented as a stationary target to
the one man in a crowd of thousands still determined to kill him was a remarkable stroke
of bad luck.
But even then, the odd still favoured France for an ounce of evil.
Principe was so hammed in by the crowd that he was unable to pull out and prime the
bomb he was carrying.
Instead, he was forced to resort to his pistol, but failed to actually aim it.
According to his own testimony, Princeip confessed,
where I aimed, I do not know, adding that he had raised his gun against the automobile without aiming,
and even turned my head as I shot.
Even allowing for the point blank range, because he stopped six feet from...
Holy shit! Holy shit! Incredible! Woah! I shot even allowing for the point blank range because he stopped six feet in that incredible
it is pretty striking giving these circumstances that the killer fired just two
bullets and that one struck Sophie who was sitting alongside him while the other
hit the air to the throne it is astonishing that both rounds proved almost
immediately fatal Sophie was hit in the stomach and a husband in the neck.
The bullet severing is jugular vein.
There was nothing any doctor could have done to save either of them.
Whoa!
That is incredible.
Fuck.
So he's turned away.
He's not even looking where he's shooting.
Yeah.
And both shots that he fires.
He said that he was not trying to kill Sophie.
He was hoping to kill Yacht Stuke.
Wow.
And it just happened to be standing there on the wrong street.
Just because they took a wrong turn.
And it's what hardcore history you guys like.
It's like if you ever believe in fate and destiny,
it just feels like, and this is the moment
that kicks off World War I.
Yeah, crazy.
Oh, that World War I, there's no World War II.
Yeah, exactly.
And everything changes.
Yeah.
Imagine we don't exist, probably.
Yeah.
Living on the moon.
Ha ha ha.
Yeah, you meant because we'd be living on the moon.
We'd be living on the moon.
Yeah, we don't exist like this.
We exist as moon men.
Yeah, yeah.
Podcasting moon men.
Obviously, we'd do the same job, surely.
There's a popular telling of the story, which until this week I thought was the true
one was that, um,
Principle was, uh, in that position because he'd sort of given up
on the day, on the assassination,
he was there to have a sandwich at Schiller's delicatessen,
which I believe was right in that location.
And he's sort of halfway through eating his sandwich
and then looks up and goes, holy shit.
But apparently that's a modern invention that...
He didn't have a sandwich. Yeah, apparently it was very unlikely
There would have even been sandwiches there at the time. He'd never eaten a sandwich. Yeah, sandwiches apparently weren't big
Sorry, I will not be calling this week's episode history is most important sandwich. No
Yeah, it's unfortunate. I mean it's when I read I was reading this article and
And going oh no, it's, what was it on?
I mean, these will all be in the show notes, but the article was in the Smithsonian.
And I was, I think he said that it was really only in this century that story sort of started
coming up.
It's like quite a modern invention.
Yeah, which is strange.
What a strange thing to catch the part.
Yeah, I mean, it's so interesting
without the sandwich.
Yeah, why do we need the sandwich?
Because we're not very,
it's incredible.
There's obviously like a story started by Subway.
Yeah, that's right.
So, I get really was eating fresh.
Yeah. Yeah, they've right. So I get really was eating fresh. Yeah
Yeah, they've It's all some move. Honestly, they've had a great history with their spokespeople over me
This is actually this guy who murdered someone wasn't the worst of them
Arguably
So it was just short of his 20th birthday and because of that, Prince
was too young for the death penalty and instead was sentenced to 20 years
behind bars. We apparently tried to turn the gun on himself but couldn't get it
happening before he got arrested. He missed. He got those these two incredible shots
and then he missed everything else. But he didn't see out his 20-year sentence.
He died in prison of tuberculosis at the age of just 23.
Oh wow, only a few years later.
With Europe's power struggles sitting
in such a delicate balance,
the death of Archduke Franz Ferdinand
proved to be the spark that would ignite the First World War.
Cogniz history.com.
First, Austria-Hungary gained German support
for punitive action against Serbia.
They got in contact with the Wilhelm, I think he said,
if we go in, will you back us?
No, yeah.
Then it sent Serbia and ultimatum,
an ultimatum, apparently worded in a way
that made acceptance unlikely,
basically terms that you would battle to agree to.
Guaranteeing a war.
No one wears pants for 18 years.
Oh, they love pants in Serbia.
Can't I have a pants, no pants or war?
Choose, no pants or war.
Fuck, you're right.
Jops out.
This is still from his.com.
Serbia proposed arbitration to resolve the dispute,
but Austria-Hungry instead declared war on July 28th, 1914, exactly a month after Ferdinand's death.
By the following week, Germany, Russia, France, Belgium, Montenegro, and Great Britain had all been drawn into the conflict.
Put simply, and I hope I got this right, Russia got involved because of its alliance with Serbia, then Germany declared war on Russia due to their alliance with Austria-Hungary,
and Britain declared war on Germany after Germany invaded the neutral Belgium, who Britain
had agreed to protect, and then the rest as we know is history.
And I was kind of hoping, I put this seed day, well I thought I'm asking you, I said,
you don't know what the topic is yet, but would you be up for doing the next part of the
story?
I'm about, my topic tomorrow is the start of a story, would you be up for doing the next part of the story? I'm about, my topic tomorrow is the start of a story.
Would you be up for doing the next part?
I don't know how you would tackle that.
It'd be like the start of World War One.
The next four years of World War One.
I think you'd be-
They just do World War One.
It's the biggest topic ever.
No, I'm not suggesting you do all of that.
Maybe one of the major battles or something
in the early stage, but whether or not you,
yeah, you can find a way into that.
I just thought it might be fun if, and then Jess, you'd take up a story after the week after that.
Yeah.
It's just an idea.
Tell me if you don't want me to do that.
I mean, I can edit this out either way.
Yeah.
So then after the war, Austria-Hungary was dissolved, and the Gavrillo-princip dream of a
Slavic nation was achieved when the Kingdom of Serbs,
Croats, and Slaveans was formed on December 1, 1918, late renamed Yugoslavia, which has also
since been dissolved. In a 2014 article marking the 100 year anniversary of the assassination,
the Guardian wrote that,
Princip remains a polarizing figure, revered by many of Bosnia's Serbs,
but derided as a murderer by the country's Muslims and Croats."
So that's the end of my report.
I was going to propose a new segment that I want to try and do each week after our report.
And that is, and it was inspired by last week's Dillinger Escape Plan connection.
So each week I'm going to ask a question, has this week's topic inspired a band name?
This week, it's a no but
we'll see see how we go in future weeks oh man I was like here we go and you say
when this is gonna be great all right obviously France for a man but yeah I
thought I'm like I wonder I wonder if that would be the case every week so I'm
gonna I'm gonna try and do even when you're doing the report next week, I'll be giving you World War One.
Yeah, that would be a pretty epic band name, World War One.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Be pretty hard to Google.
Yeah, good point.
World War One band.
Yeah, World War One is the band.
Yes.
The World War One band.
Okay, that's good.
So I mean, I feel like I say this every time.
It's tricky to summarize these huge stories
and how much, once you start doing the events proceeding,
it's like how far back to go,
how in depth you go into it, very complicated.
But I found nearly all of what I said,
I didn't know, I knew about the wild coincidence.
And I was hoping you didn't know. I didn't know at all.
Because I knew Dave probably. I looked at Dave for like mutual shock and he was watching my reaction.
Yeah. I was like, oh you both knew that one, okay. This is news for me. What? Yeah, well I mean, I
remember. Crazy. Yeah, I only knew it relatively recently, but it's
just amazing that that's how the first world all kicked off. Got to be one of history's
biggest and worst coincidences. Yeah. I love when I love hearing stories of, you know,
fate, whatever you want to call it, serendipity, coincidence, whatever. I love, I love when that
happens. Yeah, I find it like... Even in this case?
Ah, less so, but you still go that incredible.
It's very mind blowing.
Yeah.
Because it's, yeah, so heartbreaking.
Yeah.
But it's like knowing what it leads to, because it's so long ago and everything happened
as it happened.
It's just like when I see you just go, holy shit.
Yeah, incredible.
Wild.
You know, and I'm always able go, holy shit. Yeah, incredible. Wild.
And I'm always able to express in words what I'm feeling. And I think I just did that.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's how I do it.
So anyway, thanks for listening to that.
We'll be back next week with another story.
But before we move on, we really should do
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You get to give the fact-quadal a question.
You also get to give yourself a title.
First up, we've got Dominic Stevenson,
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Oh, yeah.
Mr. Rovell over.
I added that bit.
That's mine.
I came up with that.
Wow, I wish it meant something.
You are good.
And Dominic has offered us a fact.
Love a fact.
Love a fact.
It means I don't have to think of an answer.
Oh yeah.
I like the question, but yeah, the question sometimes you're like, oh that's a good question.
I don't have a good answer.
But his fact is hip hop otomontostrocequiperdelephobia is the name for a fear of long words.
That is cruel. That is cruel.
That is mean, and also very funny.
That's a great fact.
Is that a real fact, Dave?
I feel like you would know that somewhere.
No, I don't know.
That is not, but I choose to believe
because I want to believe.
That's good.
Keep watching the skis.
The next one comes from Jordan Nassie,
who's given himself the title of
just a slip of the tongue away from being Jordan Nassie.
Okay.
Oh Jordan Nassie.
That's it.
He's putting Nassie in his own title.
Okay.
I like yours better.
Yeah, I go with that next time you're opening
with that on a Tinder profile. Maybe don't drop
Nazi in there, but you are close, yes.
You like this one, Jess, because it is another fact.
Fuck yeah, Jordan.
Oh, and it's a World War fact as well.
In World War II, there was a Canadian one-eyed soldier who took an entire town single-handed.
He is the only Canadian to receive a distinguished service
medal in two wars.
His name is Leo Major, and he's a major badass.
He sounds like a badass.
He is a major in rank as well.
Major Major is pretty awesome.
There's a band called Major Major back in the day, wasn't it?
There's always a band. Maybe he's still a band. There's a band called Major Major back in the day, wasn't there? There's always a band.
Maybe he's seen the stars.
There's always a band.
What's the guy from the Catch 22?
Is there someone in that called something like Major Major or something?
Oh, I actually haven't read it so much.
Sure.
The day for the bookworm of the show.
The booktruck.
The nerd of the show is what it means there.
I'm gonna see if Google.org has the answer here.
It's a frequently requested booktweet topic, I'll say.
Yeah, there is a major major as one of the characters, isn't it?
Well, that is very good.
That is very good.
They did a good one.
Well done, Joseph Haller. Very good. They did a good one. Well done, Trace of Hela. Very good. The next one here comes from Kelly
Clark, whose title is phenomenally philanthropic phenomenologist. Damn it close. Phenomenally philanthropic,
philanthropic. Phenomenally philanthropic, phenomenologist.
That's as good as I'm going to give Kelly.
And Kelly's asking a question.
The question is, did you know that Patrons, in addition to all the cool perks listed
by Matt at the beginning of everybody's favourite section, also have access to a do-go-on-what-sap
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Even I didn't know that.
What?
That's a, I mean, that feels like a fact,
but it was a question because it started with,
did you know?
Well, the answer is no.
No, that is a lie.
I think I may have seen people post about discord,
still don't fully understand what it is.
I don't understand what it is.
But what do you, there's a WhatsApp group?
Wow.
That would be insane.
You can be involved in that if you want to get involved
on the Patreon and all these opportunities open up to you
Yeah, wow, thank you for that question Kelly Clark. I'm not a protecting that not a paper tree on the supporter
We can rely out so I'm not in there, but very nice patrons. I will not pay money for this
Oh, I won't
The final one here on that sad note
Uh, the final one here, on that sad note, comes from Colin and Lee Wright, who are the senior and junior liaisons to all mole people.
Oh!
Fantastic.
Can you pass this message on to them?
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
No, fuck you.
Give me back the golden woman.
Where is she?
What have you done with the golden woman?
What were you gonna say, Dave?
I was gonna just say, why? Why? Oh, that's bad, I should've said. What have you done with the Golden Woman? What were you gonna say, Dave? I was gonna just say, why?
Why?
Why?
Oh, that's better, I should've let you.
What if we done to hurt you?
You should've let you say it.
I wanted to cut you.
No, fuck you, it's funny.
No, fuck you.
No, fuck you.
No, fuck you.
And Colin and Lee Wright giving us a fact.
Another fact, yes, if you love an author.
Wow, thanks.
Three facts and a fact to scars as well. You're a fact. Another fact just. That's full of love and respect. Three facts and a fact to scars as well.
Yeah.
And it goes like this, fact.
I like it. It says again.
Love it.
Matt is reading this without having screened it.
So I could basically make him say whatever I want.
Oh, true.
That's a lot of responsibility.
That's the first factor for me.
Second fact, shredded wheat cereal, spray
paint, the Ferris wheel, and the United States Pledge of Allegiance were all invented for
and they booed at the 1893 Chicago World's Fair, where HH Holmes was hanging out being
shady AF. So what are the four? So it was the Ferris wheel. I remember knowing that. Ferris wheel, wheat cereal, spray paint, and the United States Pledge of Allegiance.
Wow. The big four.
I've thought about that as a good topic.
World fair?
That world fair, I guess.
A shredded cereal.
Shredded white cereal.
Yeah, well I mean cereal, wasn't that was invented to stop people?
Wanking. And it worked. We've never wanked since was that just cornflakes cornflakes and it worked
Have you eaten cornflakes ever in your life?
Yes, and have you wanked since not with cornflakes in my mouth exactly it worked or
Without mission accomplished
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What do you got today?
Mm.
Mm.
Mm.
Mm.
Mm.
Mm.
Mm.
I think there's a mousy in here.
Mm.
Mm.
I don't know with this one.
If it wasn't a sandwich, maybe what... Were they eating?
When they...
A sesame? No, that's not...
What about the biggest coincidence of their life?
Yeah, great.
Yeah, okay, sure.
Oh, okay.
Dave, Dave's got it in the first place.
I feel so happy, yeah.
I feel happy.
Oh, okay, hold on.
Let me just give me like 15 minutes.
It's still like...
What about like what genre there...
Their... Band would be?
The band that's named after their name.
Oh yeah.
Oh okay right, because Franz Birdon
and was that a pop rock band?
Yeah, no, maybe Quinson, it fuck that's hard.
Oh what, what their assassination sparked?
That's bad.
It's all bad.
It's a great topic.
I feel like we can do the coincidence as well.
Quintinance is a coincidence.
I reckon we can do that.
Dave, look at it.
He's already at his 15 minutes.
We did pause there.
Dave's at 15.
Let the record show.
So what's up with you?
That there was no 15 minute break.
He got his pen and pat out.
He's got a lot of notes.
He's ready to go.
He called a few friends. He's got a lot of info in front of him.
All right, so day first one from Helsham in Great Britain.
Steven Jaggers.
Oh, that's fucking good, isn't it?
It's good, no.
Steven Jaggers, what about Steven Jaggers
on his way to the International Space Station?
It's flying there.
Yeah. And he felt's flying there. Yeah.
And he felt a little hungry.
Yeah.
And the only chocolate on board, a milky way.
Oh, that's cool.
What?
What did that say?
That's what of the chat?
He was a bit peckish, so he went for a chocolate.
I was afraid to, because he's had breakfast.
Obviously, you eat well before you.
That's a rule from NASA.
Oh, yeah.
Shredded wheat.
Yeah, exactly. Thank you. And then on the before you, that's a rule from NASA. Oh yeah. Shredded wheat.
Yeah, exactly, thank you.
And then on the way up, he's thinking, oh fuck,
now we're in the boring bit.
We survived the take off.
Really love a little bit of chocolate.
What's this?
Oh my god, I'm in the Milky Way.
And then he looked over to his friend
and what were they eating?
A musba.
Oh, that's a bit of fun.
That's a bit of fun.
What a crazy coincidence. You know, the thing is he felt like an M&M
Yeah, but I even look like one
We have fun here. We're gonna be great dads
But I will raise mine in the army and yours
I've I drifted off a quite a while ago
I'm not being modest. I drifted off quite a while ago.
That was probably the best.
We just done seven jaggeds, so I thought,
Yes!
I don't care what I was thinking.
I was thinking about, wait, I've got a new fridge coming.
How did that work?
I guess I've got to take the stuff out of the fridge.
Yeah.
Yeah, you get off to do that, yeah.
Anyway, yeah, so the little peeking over where my mind was. I don't thank you so much, Stephen
Jaggers. That's looking about a fridge. Well, you guys would have been talking about some
real engaging stuff. Yeah, how I call it a stuff. We're going to be great dads, etc, etc.
Let's move on. The next one, we don't know where he's from, but his name is Bryson Sullivan.
Well, that's a good name.
Bryson Sullivan.
And he coincidentally, he found out he was lactose intolerant
whilst touring a soy factory.
Oh, okay, because did he have...
That makes sense.
Did he have like soy milk for the first time
and for the first time in his life after a coffee, he didn't shit himself. Now he got his results, his doctor called him. And he have, did he have like soy milk for the first time in, for the first time in his life after a coffee,
he didn't shit himself.
Now he got his results, he's Dr. Colder.
And he said,
He said, sorry, I'm just in the middle of a tour,
but I'll quickly take this school.
I'll take this school.
Oh, it's the lactose, this is making me shit myself.
After every coffee.
And then he went wild, had six coffees that day.
No problem, no shit.
Wow, obviously, there was some shit,
but it was, you know, a normal consistency. Good, good.
Is that kind of what you were hoping for, Dave?
That's good. That's good stuff.
Is it? Dave?
I loved that.
Okay.
And finally for me, I'd, thanks so much, Bryson, Solven.
Congratulations on your new love of soy.
I'd also love to thank
from Satan in South Australia.
Nicholas Mobre. Nicholas Mobre.
Nicholas Mobre. Yes, just what's his coincidence?
He was traveling on the spirit of Tasmania.
Okay, so that's a ship here in Melbourne
that goes to Tasmania.
That's right, Melbourne has.
Crosses are mighty best, straight.
When he was visited by the spirit of Tasmania. That's right, Melmeth. Crosses are the Marty Best, right? When he was visited by the spirit of Tasmania.
Wow. No. All the time. And even the spirit was like,
Yo, wait, how you all right? Holy shit. We all thought that's
fucking crazy, man. The spirit was like, I was always due to
spook it or not,
wherever you were.
I was just one of the yelts you were here.
This is crazy.
Can we not say that let's get a selfie?
This is crazy.
No one will believe this.
So when you say the spirit of Tasman,
and you mean the spirit of Aval Tasman, yes.
Yeah, wow.
Yes.
Yeah, amazing.
I know, it was incredible.
They both got selfies.
Obviously neither of them turned up
in each other's photos
as is custom. We don't turn up a ghost photo. Oh, he took a ghost photo. Yeah, of course. And humans don't chop in. What, you think ghosts don't have cell phones? Read a fucking book, Matt.
You're embarrassing yourself. Yeah, okay, no fair enough. You're embarrassing all of us.
Why are you thanking me? Thanks. I'm ripping you a new one.
Why are you thanking me for that?
I'm ruthlessly owning you right now.
I appreciate it.
Thanks so much.
Wow.
Do you want to thank a few?
Yeah, I would love to thank some people.
I do want to apologize to Nicholas as well.
I'll try not to contribute much to the quid to this game.
No, that was great.
They're getting better.
I'll get in better way. Each one's been better since that is really ordinary game. No, that was great. They're getting better. They're getting better.
Each one's been better since that is really ordinary stuff.
Milky Way, come on.
That's a coincidence.
I don't know if it is.
I would love to think.
That is a coincidence.
It went.
It was already on board.
It would be a coincidence.
Yes, so they packed it on purpose.
Oh, okay.
What about this?
Let's change that.
No, but then it's okay.
He had a positive celebration.
Celebrations. And out of all the ones he picked, it was it's okay. He had a box of... ...sell-a-br- celebrations.
And out of all the ones he picked, it was in Milky Way.
Many ignored the Mars and the galaxy.
No, no, they...
That's not real.
I mean, he could have had a multi-series.
What if...
Mate, what if...
He had a packet of... What of bounty might what if a out of packet of
What did you just say walk packet celebration? He had a packet of favorites. Yeah, every favorite and somehow there was a Milky Way in there. Thank you
Yes, thank you. Let me get better. I don't know
I mean it makes it confused
More breaking he skipped to the morrow
Which is like a knockoff Mars bar.
But I love it.
I prefer a morrow.
It's the only place to get them now,
as in the little ones.
I love them all right about them.
Anyway, I would love to thank from Cambridge in the UK,
Barnaby Slater.
Barnaby Slater.
I want to tell you something though,
on a road trip last.
Can you work with coincidence in here?
I'm also bound to be slater.
Okay, yeah, never mind, I might tell the story.
Collision is okay.
No, I want to hear the story, I just want to see you work.
I'll tell you the story then, let's see if we can work.
Okay.
Okay, so on a road trip last summer,
pre-COVID summer, sort of like the second two summers ago,
we got very into air hockey.
Everywhere we went, there was air hockey.
So we just played a lot of air hockey
and we named it the Slater Cup.
And we would be playing air hockey
and every time you got a goal and then the person
we would go slater.
And it was very fun.
To the point where we were considered buying an air hockey table
instead of a dining table, we got a-
Oh, that would be smart.
Just put a piece of board over the top.
I'm going to take a view of the slate of a brand of table.
I don't remember where Slater came from.
But I think that works in well with Barnaby Slater.
Who happened to be in the hotel game room that we were playing Slater Cup here.
And we yelled Slater. And Barnaby said, yes, how can I help you? Hello, it's me Barn playing Slater Cup here. And we yelled Slater.
And Barnaby said, yes, how can I help you?
Hello, it's me Barnaby Slater.
From Cambridge in England.
That's how they talk.
My word it is.
Yeah, what are the odds of that?
No, no, what are the odds of it?
We'd yell Slater to Barnaby Slater.
About the exact moment.
Barnaby Slater, fantastic coincidence.
And thank you so much for your support.
I would secondarily, so exciting.
What a way to thank you.
So sorry, Bonabee.
I would love to thank, from Fairyland,
in Queen's land.
Have you guys had a Fairyland?
No, I love it though.
Incredible.
So I know Fairyland is a kid.
Was there like big, like Goldilocks statues and stuff?
I don't know.
Isn't there a place outside of Melbourne
somebody called Fairyland?
Well, this is in Queensland.
So there's two Fairylands.
Two?
I would love to thank Aaron Cells.
He's a real estate agent.
In Fairyland.
That's the coincidence.
Like, is he so name cells?
Is he so sales?
Yeah.
Or is that nominate of determination,
neither vision? Sorry, mate, you just had to just trail it off there. No. do you sell? Yeah. Or is that nominee of determination, an efficient?
Sorry mate, you just had to just trail it off there.
No, no, no.
You nailed that sentence is what he did.
You heard me Dave.
So you think a coincidence there is that Aaron is a real estate agent?
Because imagine if you were looking, you get a real estate agent, you'd see then go,
well this guy has changed his name, he'd have to turn up and say, hi, I'm Aaron Cells, yes, it's my real name, just to say.
But I'm not, I don't know about you, money bags, but I am more looking for an Aaron rents,
kind of real estate agent.
Well, the irony is that he doesn't sell, he rents properties.
Yeah, okay, he's a property manager.
Which is a great noble job, if my property manager is listening.
David Quirk, you're used to say that's my actual name, David Quirk. It's not the funny
stage times, my whole name Quirk. Is that your impression? It's pretty good.
There's a little attempt there. So we're sticking with Aaron as a real
stage. That's something that he says occasionally on stage
that I sail the time, little joke there.
Yeah, it's a good one.
I enjoy that a lot.
Yeah, no, he's a property manager.
So you're not a salesperson at all?
Yeah, perfect.
Oh, oh, no, no, no.
We'll save it.
You know, so he works at a real estate agent,
but it's the cleaner.
But he doesn't do any of the selling.
He thinks it like as he on his TV ad,
people would do a double thumb point
of sorts as Aaron Cells.
100%.
Yeah.
But everyone thinks it's actually a very cool lad.
It's not one of those ads
where people go, what a fucking way.
He probably would be Aaron puts on the market, Aaron Cells.
Ah!
Very good. You give house to Aaron
sells
house Aaron give me house Aaron
Aaron sells at least for a number's written in
cry
Aaron it was already bad. How we met in so much.
Hey, you are.
Welcome.
Well played.
Thank you so much.
That's all.
Thank you, Aaron.
Thank you for your money.
Thank you so much, man.
You're supporting.
Money.
You say money and it makes it sound gross.
It is gross.
Support is what they're really offering.
It's a business, baby.
That's right.
Some of the Aaron's cells understand.
I would finally love to thank, from Bradford, in West Yorkshire, Ashley Dickinson.
Ashley Dickinson.
Fantastic name.
Quinson is here.
Of course, once upon a time, Ashley Dickinson was having, she was having, if she was at the, he or she,
was at the birthing center, cow birthing center.
Okay.
I'm really looking forward to it.
This is my answer.
Yeah, we too. When they're
It said
Didn't realize you're gonna go there. They got got lost on the way and was looking for directions got out and
They were lost on their way back from getting
Leg sculpting
Surgery and as they went in someone was pointing at a couple new born calves. I said, look at those two beautiful new calves.
And Ashley said, thank you so much.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
And it was a bit awkward, but um, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that,
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Yeah, it's great.
Yeah, I don't know if you can tell.
I didn't know where that was going where I started.
But look at the amazing destination you ended up.
Incredible dismount.
Ashley must be stoked with that.
That's a full run.
Thanks Ashley, you're all...
Thanks so much Ashley.
I would now like to thank from Kenna Windra in New South Wales, Jack Beath.
Jack Beath.
Sort of about, Jack went out for a hike.
Listening to Queen.
Yeah, lovely.
Bohemian Rhapsody. Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, bump, classic brie. Wow, that's a wild quiz. What a coincidence. Out of all the bands.
And you happen to be listening to Quain.
Yeah.
You do that.
A such an obscure band.
Yeah, that's right.
Amazing.
And I bet all the people around Jack were like,
who's that?
What band do you talk about?
Who, what?
Quain.
Isn't that Quain Elizabeth the second, you mean?
Have some respect.
No, they're an incredibly cool band.
What?
You mean that old band with that crazy shaggy hair
was once a cool rocker?
What?
I don't believe you.
I believe you.
Quincidence.
That is a coincidence.
I believe it.
What I'd love about Ridley's Believe It or Not,
the TV show is it would have Dean Kane,
OK, Superman at the end, you'd say a story and then go,
believe it or not.
And then you'd say, believe it.
Maybe like, well, is it, believe it or not?
Are you giving us the option?
Or are you telling me to believe it now, Dean?
Or is it like a...
You've been forcing this on me?
Yeah.
It's like a multiple choice and then you're telling me the answer?
Be Superman.
Believe it or not.
Believe it.
Believe it.
And then you'd walk away and then maybe like a like a teaky torch would go out or something.
And you go, oh, is that controlled by someone on the set?
Sure.
Or was that a coincidence that went out?
Oh no.
Thank you Dean Kay.
Believe it.
Believe it.
So thank you so much to Jack Beeth there rocking out with Brian May and the Forest.
I would now like to thank from Adelston in England.
This is Sophie Shooter.
Sophie Shooter!
Who does a lot of great work in our Patreon Facebook group.
Keeps the community spirit alive. So thank you so much Sophie.
Yes. I think you haven't done one in a bit.
That's very much on purpose.
Do you start? All right. Sophie was a minor or meat base today.
Warsaw. Sophie was walking down the meat aisle at the local supermarket.
Yes. When, of course, she saw the very cow whose meat she was buying.
The cow was walking through going,
has anybody seen chunks of meat?
Presumably bleeding out.
Yeah.
And so if he was like, oh my God, it's so crazy.
I actually just picked this up.
Let me stitch this back into you.
And the cow made a full recovery.
Oh wow.
Quincidental and warming. Stop making me do this.
Life's amazing.
A life-saving coincidence.
Yeah.
Wow, Sophie shoot a well done.
Yeah, she saved a cow's life and made a life on friend.
Just somebody else in a different aisle.
Oh, okay.
That's a coincidence.
They both reached for the same bag of lollies.
Oh.
A strong conversation and, um, yeah.
And then a cow came and said, is anyone seen my hooves been bored for a while I thought it was going to be a big deal. I thought it was going to be a big deal. I thought it was going to be a big deal.
I thought it was going to be a big deal.
I thought it was going to be a big deal.
I thought it was going to be a big deal.
I thought it was going to be a big deal.
I thought it was going to be a big deal.
I thought it was going to be a big deal.
I thought it was going to be a big deal.
I thought it was going to be a big deal.
I thought it was going to be a big deal.
I thought it was going to be a big deal. I'd like to thank finally thanks someone someone's had a bit of fun here
And it seems like they've made up a place. Okay, which I find a little bit offensive there from
Scoot
there
There's seven from a place the country is listed as Norway
from a place, the country is listed as Norway. Oh, wow.
I'm telling you that's a real country.
Matt, did you plant this?
No, it sounds like no way we get it, mate.
We can't.
Oh, no, why?
Okay, okay.
It's so cool that we got a listener, not only a listener,
but a patron supporter in Norway, that's sick.
Awesome.
All right, that is cool.
We have heard of that.
That was a joke.
No, thank you so much for your support.
We know what this is.
And I would like to thank now and also modern and shaven
Hmm, I think Dave said it better. Yeah, and he said it worse, right?
It's that it's so bad. I said it mine took 15 seconds to get it
Is it is that weird the Dave said a better because he said it worse?
It's so weird. That's weird. I would like to thank lean or Lenny Hoyn-Niers
Coincidence coincidence. What about lean was flying their kite? Yep, and I got tangled with another kite
Yes, do you know who was flying?
Brian
And he said fucking hell
And he said fucking hell. I paid 40 pound for that. Shit. And the coincidence is that another paid tromb supporter.
Yeah, can you put all the met brine mate? Exactly.
We listed nine names and all of those nine, two have had incidents with Brian mate.
That's crazy, that's crazy. Yeah, exactly.
Brian mate has cracked the practice hits have two of those
nine people.
Brian May.
Fucking hell.
Mom, it looked like a dragon and then you ruined it.
Yeah, that's crazy.
Okay.
Thank you so much.
Lay, lean.
Yeah.
Lean, so thank you so much to Lane, Sophie Jack, Ashley,
Aaron, Barnaby, and Nicholas, Bryson, and Steven. Legends won it all.
Absolutely. Jesse, you don't explain the TripTitch Club.
So the TripTitch Club is a very special club. We like to take Pedro and Sue support us
for three consecutive years. I like to think of it as like an airport lounge,
but way cooler.
And you don't have to get on a plane after.
Like a good airport lounge, like a seaport lounge.
It's like a, it's like kind of like a country club,
but like not wonky.
It is exclusive, but you know.
But we're not a leetist.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely right.
I picture a lot of like crushed red velvet curtains and stuff.
Yeah, okay, yeah.
I don't know why that is.
So we've got bar.
Bar cocktail lounge, sort of there.
Yeah, there's booths, everyone gets their own booth.
We've got music every week and a rotating menu
of all hors d'oeuvres and cocktail specials.
This week, of course, we will be having
the food of Austria.
Oh, probably sausages.
Sossages.
They've begun sausages.
There's more your part of the world.
What do they do in Austria?
And other treats.
And what's the cocktail?
Cocktail is the...
Schwarzenegger.
Schwarzenegger.
Oh, that is Schwarzenegger. Schwarzenegger. Oh, that is, what's in that? Protein powder, steroids, and a little bit chocolate.
Wow.
A peanut butter and banana.
It's a protein smoothie.
Are we talking Vienna sausage?
Oh.
Vienna's apple strudel.
Oh, yeah.
Weiner Schnitzel.
Yes.
Potato goulash.
It gets a bit of a sweet.
Oh, yeah.
And a nodel. Yes, all Goulart. Oh, yeah.
And a nodal? Yes, all that, yes.
Oh, I want to hold this.
This food sounds so good.
I'm just looking this up as well.
Powiddle is a thick sweet jam made from plums.
Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, the plums,
ooh, me plums, ooh, me plums.
Oh, me plums.
Is what you say about the jam. Ooh, me plums, jam. Oh, me plums, Oh, me plums. Oh, me plums. Oh, me plums. Is what you say about the jam.
Yeah.
Oh, me plums.
Jamicious.
There we go.
And Dave, who, uh, you are obviously in charge of booking the musical accent's week,
who have we got performing this week?
Uh, well, unfortunately no bands did tie back to the topic this week, uh, in any way,
shape or form.
So we are sadly left with the music of the Bee Gees.
Oh, we couldn't get Frankie Brian, mate. There was a number one album last week was one of the
one of the BGs, probably the living one, and he...Barry?
Barry Gibb, and he had an album which was the songs of the BGs.
Oh, yeah, up at re-song with other artists. I think Dolly Parton did one with him.
Bloody hell, that's quite a boon.
But opening for him is of course the famous Austrian singer, Falco.
Oh, I'm a dais, I'm a dais.
Is that Falco?
Come and rock me, I'm a dais.
Great.
So I'll read the names off the list, welcoming people in so they can get settled in, listen
to some Falco tunes, grab a Shwotsmaker Off Jess.
And as you come in, Dave's your hot man,
he's gonna hype you right up.
Dave, of course, needs his own hot person.
I can't see my contract.
Yes, plays that role.
Yes.
Do you answer the hot man or hot person?
No, I think hot man is like a, is a gender neutral term.
Right, okay. Okay, so we've got a few in this week
Crazy seven we got seven days. That's right momentum. We can do you really have to keep me up just because
Let's do it all right from leads in great Britain. It's James Underwood. Oh
Let me lead you to the dance
Great Britain, it's James Underwood. Oh well the Duke is here. The Duke is here.
Matt we need momentum. Okay from Carmichael in California of the United States,
is Daniel McMeans.
Sure, this guy I'm McMeans.
He's making nice.
From 69.
Uh, Dallas, Texas in the US, it's Manigaza.
Ooh.
There's not many galsas.
Like, Manigaza. There's not many guzzas like many guzzas.
Hopefully, uh, many, uh,
guzzas strips down to his bare essentials.
Stick to the script from a red beach.
It's got things he could do.
In the orchard.
It's not that easy as a pound.
In that easy.
It's Steven Brown.
Oh, well, they're not. It was Steven Brown. Oh, well, the night.
It was, you know, I wanted to paint the town red, but now I want to paint it brown.
It's a brown town, all right.
Like I said, it's not as easy as it looks.
It gives you so much shit, the heat truss and it's fucking crickets.
Brown town, what the fuck?
What are we doing in this club?
It's a it's a fun place
You hate shit. Yeah, that's right
Wasn't a shiver like a thing right, sorry
I thought you were trying to say that he was gonna. Don't read. Yeah, that's what it sounds like go to brown town
He's got a charming thing. No
What's have me I was building on what you said
It's a rhyming thing. No.
What's have meaning?
I thought I was building up when you said.
What's have meaning?
Why do we have for a mind job that week after week?
The things you said, we're going to consequences.
You said, we're going to paint the town brand.
I said, yeah, it's going to brand.
I thought I was getting involved.
No, you're not being good.
Just wanted to be involved.
Sick of sitting on the sidebind.
You two getting to hype each other.
All right, come on. What happens when you try?
You do the next one, and we'll give you feedback. Yeah, go on do the next one do it all yourself
That was the last one
But let me make up a name. All right, please come on down Matt Stewart
Who knew it? It's our man Matt Stewart pretty good actually
Well, that brings us to the end of the episode.
Damn it. He really showed me up there.
By using a thing he's used multiple times, Matt is his own name.
I was sent chat to it.
Chat spew it.
I am better at this than you.
So that brings us to the episode just where can people find us?
They can find us at our houses!
No, I will tell you our addresses. The boys won't tell me theirs.
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With Dinosaur, if you're just gonna fucking recap it.
Don't make me do it for nothing.
Anyway, Dave, food is home.
Yeah, Dave tells me people can find us on Patreon.
Did we say our website?
Do go on pod.com, of course, there's a link there to click to Patreon.
But if you need to type it in manual, it's www.patreon.com slash do go on pod.
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