Two In The Think Tank - 277 - The Red Baron
Episode Date: February 10, 2021The most successful pilot of World War I, Manfred von Richthofen AKA 'The Red Baron', had a bit of a shaky start behind the controls of his plane. He soon knocked up victory after victory and quickly ...became the most feared man in the skies. But just how long could his streak last?Buy tickets to our four live Melbourne podcasts on March 28, April 4,11 and 18: https://www.trybooking.com/BOMAA Buy tickets to Matt's stand up show at the Melbourne Comedy Festival: https://www.comedyfestival.com.au/2021/shows/nostalgia-was-better-when-i-was-a-boySupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodBuy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 12 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoonCheck out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-TopicTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comCheck out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasListen to Evelyn's awesome song that explains the show: https://soundcloud.com/epicevie/do-go-on-theme-song REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:
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I think that would be good.
Oh yeah, I didn't even notice it calling you the best means that I'm less than the best.
Yeah.
Which I mean, I knew, but...
But it's not...
Oh yeah.
That's why I didn't stand out to me.
Because it's just the norm.
I wasn't like, oh my God, hang on, I've been slotted.
Well, when people ask you what you do, surely you say, there's Dave with the pies.
Me with the beard. And yes, she's the best.
I wasn't sure it was the beard or the beard,
but I guess either is both very deep,
both very deep looks at me as a person.
Yeah, that's your personality, beard and beard.
Do the beard go.
Mine's pies.
Yeah, mine, and I'm the best.
Yeah, that's right.
That's my thing. That was a beautiful proud. And I'm the best. Yeah, that's right. That's my thing.
Yeah.
That was, that was beautiful.
In the words of Jess Perkins, I would call that cute as fuck.
Oh, that was cute as fuck.
And also, like, very much my taste and music as well.
So I was like, I would listen to so much of your stuff.
Keep making me.
But I don't think it was about us.
Oh, yeah, preferably, but, you know,
not every song can be about perfection. I reckon that my make-make-she-as-hotest 100. Easily, because I'm't think it's about us. Oh yeah, preferably, but you know, not every song can be about perfection.
I reckon that might make next year's hottest 100.
Easily, because I'm gonna rig it.
Can we do that?
Will you be in trouble if you do that?
Will I be in, yeah, I reckon.
But anyway, we always start with a question, Dave.
I have a one probably said,
but I was lost in the melody.
I was so lost in the doot-do-wap, you know.
We always do start with question, David, is your week to do the report, take it away. That is right. Now last week Matt did a
topic, why World War One started the assassination of Archduke, a French fernan, and he did ask me,
hey maybe you could do a follow up World War One topic and I thought yeah great of course I'll
do the history of World War One from this point.
No I've been a little bit more specific and my question is World War One badass manfred von Rick
Thoffen or Rick Hoffen. Great name. Incredible already. Manfred von Rick Thoffen is better known by
what name. Oh you've heard the red bandit. No the red baron. It is the red baron. Yes, fuck you.
You're gonna have to give that to Jim some of that.
Yeah, that's why she's the best because she takes your half answer and wins.
What I did was I mixed up the red baron and the sticky bandits from home alone,
which I'm often doing. Yeah. Do you mean wet bandits?
Well, they came back as sticky bandits. Dave, do you research, mate? Read a book. Watch a movie. Fuck an hour.
I don't do sequels except for Terminator 2. The first film ever made. All right.
We've done plenty of military badass reports on this show mostly from World War Two. Yeah.
Really
From this side of the war, I will say.
Your side.
Well, I think the only one that we've ever been,
that's not on the side that I guess Australia fought
is in the World Wars was the last Japanese soldiers episode.
Oh, yeah.
But don't know if we've ever done a German soldier before.
No.
Wait, were your ancestors still in Germany at the time?
The Warnakies?
No.
Or the Warnakies?
No, they came out on late 40s.
Late 1890s, I believe.
Oh, wow.
All right, just in time for the VFL, AFL.
Come on.
Yeah, as they heard, that's my great, great grandfather,
Heinrich Warnikey, jumped shipets and kilter.
Of Manuver fame?
Well, actually, I had some kilter, so he honestly didn't
jump shipets and kilter and didn't go back.
Right, yeah.
He probably would have supported the Saints if he was supporting.
Which way, excuse me, did?
Yeah.
But then, of course, his great grandson, my grandfather,
or his grandson, my grandfather was a Melbourne subordinate.
I'm so sorry.
Oh, God.
He's usually disappointing.
Well, mainly for that guy.
Well, that demon.
Well, this topic, the red baron, has been suggested by a bunch of people, Dave
Cliff, Zane Hattinger, Alec McElroy, Aaron Wolf, Rowan Lockhart, and of course, one name
only needed for Braden. You know what, we a long time ago, we used to get too distracted,
commenting on every single name, so now we kind of, it's a bit of an unspoken rule that we shut up and let the names all be said but I wanted to
interrupt at every single one of those and be like, fuck that's a good name.
That's a hot crop of names.
That's it and we say that every week but this week in particular we're not just kissing
your butts.
I'm never not kissing your butts.
You're always kissing butts.
Yeah.
Do you guys know much about the red bandit, Slush Baron?
I have heard of it.
In the Simpsons, I think.
Yeah, maybe.
I don't know nothing, to be honest.
Very good.
I think maybe more kills in the air than anyone else.
I had a cool looking plane.
Maybe wore a scarf.
A zero scarf involved.
Maybe some of those fun goggles?
Definitely goggles.
I'm gonna let the helmet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Hercloissizi.
The first couple of things were quite accurate.
Okay.
All right.
Slow applying.
Anyway, I don't want to spoil too much.
So let's let Dave go through the story.
Yeah, let's let Dave tell his little story.
Yeah. Okay, so I've Dave tell his little story. Yeah.
OK, so I've got to put in the disclaimer
that despite my name being Warnegier German name,
for the record, I even mispronounced my own last name
according to a German exchange student I once met.
So I'm going to continue that tradition
by possibly butchering a few of the classics.
You're going to do your best.
I will.
And that's all that anybody can ask me. I've even Googled, I've listened to people how they of the classics. You're gonna do your best. I will. And that's all that anybody can ask.
I've even like Googled, I've listened to people
how they say the name and it's just like,
that sounds fantastic in a German accent.
Yeah.
Here's my attempt.
The man that would one day become the Red Baron,
Manfred von Richthofen,
was born on May 2nd, 1892.
The son of an affluent family of Prussian nobles, his birthplace is now
in modern day Poland.
Hmm. Surely you call a manfrid manny, right?
Yeah, I think so.
I've never heard of anybody actually go by manfrid.
Manfrid, what about that?
Frid man, band. I take it all back.
The other phone number, the band, manfrid man, something, something band. I take it all back. The other phone number the band man from man something something band. Yeah, whatever
Clutch it up round it up. Oh whatever
That's such a fun it's so early to just give up
If it even five minutes. Oh whatever you so you're saying man for man should have called himself manny man
Yes, Freddie man or many Freddie man. Oh, many Freddie man getting a man should accord himself manny man. Yes. Well, Freddie man or manny Freddie man.
Manny Freddie getting a manny petty.
Oh, and which ones which Dave?
Which ones are manny and which ones are petty?
Manny hands, petty feet.
No, petty is children.
Manny men.
Yes, petty.
At all get mannies, children get pennies. Have you heard of the petty curuses of children's
doctor?
Really, I'm really slipping behind the ball this week. First,
this home alone thing, now child doctors.
Embarrassed of twice. Yeah.
Right off the bat. Come on, mate.
Oh, when you're back with some facts about the red baron.
His father was a major all-brecht von Richthoffen. And like their father, the red baron. His father was a major, all-break to von Richthoffen.
And like their father, the red baron or Arby and his brothers
were expected to walk in his footsteps
and join the military.
But before then, as a young boy,
he enjoyed horse riding and game shooting.
There is two hobbies.
Horse riding and shooting little birds.
Ah, game shooting. Not shooting monopoly.
Put a bunch of...
Toy guns.
On posts in a park.
Shoot's out of...
Cop that Hong Kong edition.
We had that growing up.
Really?
Yeah, for some reason.
He was treated privately before becoming a military cadet
at the age of just 11.
But he didn't like taking instruction by his own admission.
He couldn't see the point in doing more than the bare minimum
to pass.
So his teachers thought very little of him.
I think last week, Arch Stoog, Franz Ferdinand
joined the military at 11 as well.
It must have been a thing they used to do.
What are you doing when you were 11?
I got braces.
I joined the army.
Oh yeah.
Yes, firing a submachine guns.
Hmm.
Okay.
Didn't get braces though, so.
Yeah, well.
A braces at 11.
Quite young.
Yeah, I grew early so they could put them on.
I didn't have that much growing left.
Right, okay.
We're the only one.
Looking around the classroom.
Yeah, I haven't been like great six.
That's early, but that means I had them off by year eight, which has been a lot of people starting to
get them.
You're blooming in your age.
Yeah, I was hot in your age.
Fantastic.
Fugly for grade six and you're seven.
Who cares?
You're eight.
You want to be hot in your age.
Hot bitch.
Who's this hot 14 year old?
Yeah.
Uh, that's going to be edited out and used. She brought someone. Yeah, probably. Oh, no.
I was referring to myself. Oh, no, that won't be it. That won't be that bit won't be in no this whole bit
I'm taking about a context and then I've put some context at the end
Don't you wouldn't want to make you look like a fool
I wonder when I make you look like a fool. So our man, Von Richthofen, was an active teenager and won prizes for his gymnastics
on the Horrors on Toolbar.
Oh yeah.
And he was a bit of a thrill seeker.
Oh yeah, gymnastics.
And one day he climbed a lightning pole for fun and attached his hanker chief at the
top.
Ten years later, when visiting his little brother at the academy, he was proud to look up and see the hanky chief at the top. 10 years later, when visiting his little brother at the academy,
he was proud to look up and see the hanky still there.
But he hadn't blown his nose since.
Funny way you can find pride, isn't it?
Yeah.
I'll put that hanky up there.
Yeah, cool.
Absolutely glowing.
Do people like see that hanky?
No.
Well, I'll put that there.
Yeah, all right.
That's me.
Yeah, that's me.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's me.
He completed his schooling in 1911
and joined the third squadron of the Oolan Cavalry Unit.
So he wrote a horse.
Great.
And then he was commissioned as an officer.
As Matt reported on last week,
in the intro, we noticed this,
but what were won,
off in 1914, for reasons we are still unsure why.
No, I explained it in quite a lot of detail last week.
I'm not entirely sure.
Completely confused. I guess someone just said the wrong thing about someone else.
Yeah, that's all I can remember.
No.
Well, the war kicks off in 1914 and being in the military, the Red Baron is ready to fight.
Yeah.
He served as a cavalry reconnaissance officer on both the eastern and western fronts,
but the conditions of World War I were unlike anything that had come before it.
Trench warfare where each side remained in opposing dugout trenches resulted in a bit of stalemate between each side,
and I meant the cavalry and horses were almost useless.
Doesn't trench warfare in hindsight seem quite dumb.
Oh yeah.
You know what I mean?
I'm in my hole, you're in your hole.
Every now and then I'll shoot and then you hide.
And then when I stop shooting, you start shooting.
And we'll do this for many years.
Yeah.
It doesn't sound like fun.
I'm more into cyber wars, you know?
Cyber-borg wars.
Just let the cyber-borgs go at it.
Yeah.
And we can, we can just watch TV.
Ha ha ha.
I'm throwing the cyber-borgs in a war.
No idea what they are.
Not quite sure what they are. They're not the ones that are half human, half robot, are war. No idea what they are. Not quite sure what they are.
They're not the ones that are half human, half robot, are they?
Yeah, they may are.
Well, now I was just singing, I was chucking in robots, but...
Which half's human?
Dave?
Genitals.
Half.
Half as you, of you as genitals, Dave?
Yeah, have you not seen RoboCop?
No.
No.
But I don't, I think I'd know if RoboCop
was mostly genitals.
I feel like that would come up in conversation more.
Yeah.
We've talked about this in the past.
The snake is mostly neck,
but I didn't know where RoboCop was mostly cock.
Yeah, that's right.
It's a cock where the couple of guns are touched.
Whoa.
He does.
His head does look a bit like a cock.
Head of a cock.
I mean, it looks like one because.
Oh, thank you.
Oh, god.
Now, horse riders cavalry are pretty useless in the war.
You can't just go prancing around No Man's Land
between the trenches.
He's like, I've backed the wrong horse here by backing any horse at all. So the career
military man was pretty bored. He was doing reconnaissance passing letters around.
He wanted to make a mark. And now he was stuck riding a useless horse. He was then
ordered to join the army supply branch and the thought of transporting goods instead
of actually fighting killed him, he needed action.
So having seen and been inspired by German military aircraft, he applied to join the Imperial
German Army Air Service.
The story goes that in his application, he wrote to his superior officer, quote, my dear
excellency, I have not gone to war in order to collect cheese and eggs, but for another purpose.
Oh.
And that's essentially I'm not here to fuck spiders.
Yeah. I hope this appears like, oh my gosh, we have put you in the wrong spot.
Oh my god, you're not here for...
You're not the cheese and egg man?
Oh, I'm so sorry, that is an admin era, but to be fair we are a little busy.
There's a lot going on.
I don't remember that. Sorry about that. And he's like, yeah, I'm vegan fair, we are a little busy. There's a lot going on. I don't remember that. We did.
Sorry about that.
And he's like, yeah, I'm vegan and this is pretty hard for me.
Yeah, this is honestly making me quite uncomfortable.
It's debated whether this actually happened to that letter, but regardless, he was accepted
into the Air Force.
Okay.
Having only flown a horse.
Yeah, that's right.
I'll be flying an aircraft.
I'll fly a horse.
Say no more.
Right, this way.
Well, I'm a horse. Say no more. Right, this way. Welcome aboard.
How many hovers is this plane having?
What?
Hya!
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're there whipping the plane.
It's been playing and weirdly it's working.
Yeah, oh my god.
How is he doing?
This guy gets results.
Yeah.
Hey.
Yep.
Let me just talk to this plane.
What's that?
Whoa girl, whoa!
She needs petrol.
So you initially trained as an observer and was assigned to an aviation training unit
at Calone.
His job was to accompany an enlisted pilot in a two-seater Elbatross sitting behind the pilot directing him
Where to fly over the lines so he could gather intelligence over enemy lines?
I probably should fit in there. Okay. He's like go that way and
You have to realize the context of the time the right brothers who I've also done a report on only flew the first ever plane the right
Flyer for 12 seconds just 12 years ago. Oh shit. So it's pretty
experimental. Plains had come a long way but they were still pretty basic and at the start
of the war most of them weren't even armed. They didn't have like a drinks cart and...
They didn't have any of that. There was no first class. Just... That was a point. I only
fly first class. That's why we're broke.
We're up the back going, Jess did we really keep doing this?
Do we need to spend the entire tour budget on flying one way to London?
Yes.
I'd like to quote from a website that Matt actually links me to wikipedia.org.
I'm saying that right?
It's very good.
Results.
Enemy pilots at first simply exchanged waves or shook their fists at each other.
Good.
Jews who wait restrictions only small weapons could be carried on board.
Intrepid pilots decided to interfere with enemy reconnaissance by improvised means, including
throwing bricks, grenades, and sometimes rope, which they hoped would entangle the enemy
planes propeller.
Pilots quickly began firing handheld guns at enemy planes.
So the planes are too light, you couldn't have heavy weapons on there, so they took bricks.
Yeah, that's right.
Light bricks.
Okay, all right, they're...
Hollow bricks.
That's wild, yeah.
They didn't have fancy machine guns on the...
And then, like, eventually they're like, fine, I'll just take a hand gun out.
And there is instances, early on in the war
where someone shot down an enemy plane.
But for an hand gun, that's incredible.
Which is amazing.
And then it got to the point where they also
like tough guys flying up next to each other.
And they go, let's do without the guns.
And they dropped the guns out.
And then they sort of just hit their wings.
And they go, come on, let's go.
Mano, a mano.
But then one of the guys realizes he's about to die,
so he pulls out a little knife.
From his sock and starts stepping the plane.
Stabbing the plane, yeah.
And he's the one who was evil all along.
Yeah, bad guy.
And then right at then you're like, oh, maybe he's being fair.
No, he's not.
No, he's not.
Stabbed a plane right in the guts.
Sean Claude van Plain. What a dog. What a dog of a plane. I have no idea what you're referencing.
What are films? Okay. You know those films are there. Let's go. You and me. This whole movie's been
building up to us having a fight. There's some complicated backstory about how I screwed you over
when we used to be buddies fighting on the same side. Now let's go. And then Stallone fights Van Dam and then Stallone's about to kill Van Dam and he's like,
well, let's not fight fear anymore. He's a knife that I prepared earlier.
I mostly watch cartoons.
All right, so you got the bugs bunny.
I'm listening.
The bugs bunny.
Yeah.
I remember Justin Timberlake went up to the Boggsman, he said, drop the ver.
And it really changed everything.
Well, I wish I could remember who he was playing
in that film.
So I always just, so in the social network,
Justin Timberlake played some guy who told the guy playing
Mark Zuckerberg to take the the of Facebook.
I reckon that's probably the tenth time of references
on the show, first time I it. Regretting the explanation.
No, that was great.
It was the naps to go, I wrote.
Edit out the explanation, please do.
Okay, fantastic.
Because we all just got it.
Yeah, everyone did a good order.
This is a good joke.
It's just a good joke.
Well, that's it.
Yeah.
It's just, I beg you, I'm going to actually correct myself there.
It's just a perfect joke.
Perfect joke, thank you. Yes, I beg you, I'm gonna actually correct myself there. It's just a perfect joke.
Perfect, Jack, thank you.
Speaking of great jokes,
and you also added out when I said game hunting
was shooting at board games,
I felt real gross about that.
No.
Really?
Yeah, reckon you could.
No, Matt, you just waited for it to be fun.
People could be.
Yeah, I mean, we know that,
but someone out there is going,
well, this isn't the gold standard I'm used to.
Well, you know, that just proves that we're human.
And sometimes we're a bit shit.
It's the swings that miss the make the swings you hit.
Even better.
If you hit everything you swung at,
you're on, you're on fest, this is my day to day, right?
But then if you miss, when you do hit, it's like, oh man,
that euphoria.
Oh, I cannot wait to finally experience that one day.
Yeah, one day little buddy.
One day.
That's my theory with the saints.
Yeah.
When we finally win a premiership, oh my god.
Yeah, you've warned us before and hopefully, you know, family members that when the Saints
do win a Premiership, you will be disappearing for at least a week.
I will be going to the game with my passport, even though Anna Flagon and a little, and also
a little dagger and a round of ankle.
Just in case.
Just in case. I mean, even though Australia's borders are closed at the moment, you will somehow end
up in the Caribbean. Yeah, I have a funny feeling. On board some sort of super yacht. Yeah,
I have to go Manoamano against the captain. And the mat is the captain. Yeah, when it takes
all because you kill the captain. And then that's how we eventually do a podcast on this national waters, because Matt lets us on his boat.
Yeah, thanks Matt.
Thanks Matt.
And the yacht is called L-Barge.
I love it.
Do it on a bar.
You guys want it on a barge?
Let's try.
It's just a yacht called a barge.
It's actually a super yacht called a barge.
Does your yacht, does your hang on?
Does your yacht super yacht have a pool?
Oh yeah, of course.
Wonder.
Well, I mean, where else would you swim?
Exactly.
In the beautiful waters surrounding it?
No, I think you.
I like chlorine.
Okay, Dave, you may continue now.
No, it'll be a saltwater pool.
Oh, even better.
Makes my hair go all cool and wavy, and I feel fancy.
Do you love a saltwater pool?
Yeah.
I love salt, you know that.
Yes, we love salt, but we also love talking about
how planes were a bit shit at the start of World War One.
Yeah, just like where a bit shit sometimes.
But, well said.
There's nothing like war to necessitate huge advances
in technology and the planes themselves quickly
became weaponized.
Only around the outbreak of the first World War
did the planes start to get equipped with synchronization gear.
The Germans were the first to implement this
on the Focca on decker fighters.
That's fun.
That's fun.
I will be saying Focca a few more times.
I'm like, did you have to go a long way around
to work that into the ripple?
Yeah, definitely.
I definitely read that and thought,
let's go on in.
So synchronization?
So synchronization gear is a synchronization gear.
Although it was a device that allowed the plane's
machine gun to fire bullets through its spinning propeller blades without hitting them. Wow. So it's incredible engineering. Wow, helled. So they
weren't always reliable at first. I would have just aimed them. Like, yeah, I just assumed they'd be
put in a place so they didn't have to shoot through. That must have been possible for balance or something.
Oh, well, when you're at, so you imagine yourself at the controls and one of these old like,
for balance or something. Well, when you're at, so you imagine yourself at the controls and one of these old, like,
fire things, where you're looking is where the plane is aiming.
So the best place if you come up behind someone to shoot them is if you can just fire right
in front of you.
But the propeller is also there.
So they've timed it.
So that in between the blades, the machine gun bullets fire.
That's amazing.
Imagine like being the first one up there going,
well, I'm just going to go.
Wow, how clever.
And they weren't always reliable at first
and continue to get better throughout the war.
But thinking about how fast the propeller spins,
it still blows my mind.
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
Because the Germans were the first
to develop this technology, it really
took their opponents by surprise
during the first couple of years of the war, and this period was referred to as the Focca Scourge.
And one of them, myself.
What did that mean?
What's that?
What's a Focca Scourge?
Probably first I've explained what a Scourge means.
What's a Scourge?
I'll start there. I'll fill this one. What's that? What's a fuck a scooge? She probably first asked if I want a scooge, means?
Yeah, what's a scooge?
I'll start there.
I'll fit this one.
Scooge is a very successful period.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah, great.
That's the, all right.
That clears that up.
Hey Dave, do you go on?
So, Richtoffen's first job was to sort of navigate
from the back seat.
And the first time he went out, Richtoffen, he was just shitting himself.
He wasn't sure what to expect, and as soon as the plane took off, he immediately lost his
bearings.
He's supposed to be in charge of telling the guy where to go.
This is immediately like, you can still see the runway below him.
Where am I?
Where am I?
Where in the air?
Where in the air somehow?
So this is a quote from his book that you later wrote quite
sign
I had not the slightest notion where I was I began very cautiously to look over the side of the country the men looked
Ridiculously small
Yeah, we understand that I
Guess not many people this time have ever flown so it would be mind blowing.
The house as people had been a world of waste.
You had seen people far away though right?
He'd been close up to people his whole life.
The house as seemed to come out of a child's toy box he wrote.
Everything seemed pretty.
Cologne was in the background.
The cathedral looked like a little toy.
It was a glorious feeling to be so high above the earth, to be the master of the air. I didn't care where I was, and
if I'd extremely sad, my pilot thought it was time to go down again, already I was
canning down the hours to the time we should start again. So he immediately got oss, but
he loved it, and it was hooked on the feeling. Oh, got chuckle. Oh, that sounds like an absolute fucker spurge.
That's not what it was.
That was better.
You made it better.
Fucker splurge.
Fucker splurge.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
His friend, George Zuma, right name for a pilot. Yes. Tought him how to fly solo.
And on Christmas Day 1915, Richthofen
passed his final examinations.
Wow.
It was around this time that Richthofen
encouraged his younger brother,
Lothar von Richthofen, to join the Air Force.
It was a good Lothar.
Basically telling him,
if you do anything else in the army, you'll be bored.
He thought he was saving his brother from boredom. Right. Uh-oh. The senior, Rick Hoffman, studied aerial tactics
under the master German strategist, Hauptmann Oswald Bulker, who was one of the original
fighter pilots. Wow. Because it's so new that there are, like, the first people that
have ever done this are still around. Yeah.
Still doing it.
Yeah, wow.
In March, 1916, he joined the number two bomber squadron
flying a two-seater Elbatross C3.
And he didn't have the flying start,
you might expect for someone whose name we know
over a hundred years later.
Imagine there's not many pilots from this era
that you can name.
So you'd expect him to have a great start.
Yeah. Well, in fact, to have a great start. Yeah.
Well, in fact, he looks like a pretty shit pilot, the first time I've gotten him there.
He couldn't control the plane and even had a minor crash during his first flight.
Oh dear.
Whoopsie.
Uh oh.
How do I see?
I've had a little whoopsy.
Well, he's still, he's trying to figure it out after years on a horse, right?
Yeah.
slightly different.
The one that the ideals stepping stone in between
would be one of them flying horses.
Yeah.
Yes, or a merry-go-round.
Oh, yeah.
Get him on the...
Now I get it.
He's like, oh, the people look like Tiny.
He ends from up here.
Yeah.
Well, despite this less than ideal start
when he crashed the plate on his first go,
he flew his first combat mission
after less than 30 hours of flight instruction.
So imagine that, you get 30 hours
and then you're out there fighting.
How much are you able to do to get your license?
Your driver's license down?
It's like 120 hours, okay?
That is what I think that is what they say to master
or anything, you gotta get your 30 flying hours
Yeah, so they say you won't get good at stand up until you've done 30 hours on stage
Yeah, and then you'll probably be the best the best I was so I'm felt done 30 hours
Yeah, Chris rocks done 30 hours God how long do you reckon you've done?
I reckon 15
15 16 seconds.
Yeah, it's probably there, right?
Yeah.
So I'm on my way, I'm in the journey.
Oh, of course.
Yeah, but you know, you'll get there.
I stepped on once, maybe you step back off.
Yep.
And then another time I was trying to go to the bathroom.
Yep.
And I didn't realize I'd cross the stage.
And so then I had to cross back.
And that all added up to 16 second
the link.
Yeah, great.
You looked down at the stopwatch and you went, thank God for that.
Yeah, thank God for that.
I'm on that.
Oh yeah, accidentally walked across the stage at that time.
Yeah.
Oh, whoopsie.
Yeah, I see.
I know your point.
So, I unfailed was not happy.
That's a big stage too.
Yeah, I said, sorry, Jair.
It's like I caught him, Jair.
Sorry. happy. That's a big stage too. Yeah, I said sorry, Jair. It's like I come Jair.
Sorry. How does he respond to you, Liam Jair? He sort of, he just had a look at me like,
I respect you because we're both comics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're the only people he really
cares about. Was this look as three or four large security guards? Yeah. It's your way. Yeah, I knew,
I knew you'd only send them if he
was threatened.
Oh, yeah, connection.
Threatened by.
Threatened in connection.
Yeah.
Threatened by how good you are, exactly.
He was like, oh no.
Dave, could you edit out?
I can't.
So he got cocky early on and drove through,
I try to say drove flew through a storm against a more experienced pilot's advice
and realized when he got to the other side
that he was lucky to make it and vowed to never do that again.
Okay.
Unless specifically ordered, of course,
he was prepared to do anything.
Yeah.
In 1916, Bulca, the legendary pilot,
I mentioned before, one of the first ever fighter pilots,
was putting together his own squadron called the Yast-2
and he selected Richthoff and to join. Oh cool. So not a great start but you impressed people
early on so he got a shot. He had a good attitude. Did he show some moxie maybe? Yeah well I mean
his attitude was why do more than the bare minimum. No that was when he was cute. No he was yeah he was
prepared to put it all on the line.
Bulk was such a legend in the world of military piloting
that it could be said he wrote the book on it.
Wow.
Because he did.
Wow.
OK.
He wrote a book on fundamental aerial maneuvers
of aerial combat called the Dicta Bulkha.
There are eight fundamental rules, and these helped man
for it von Richthofen become the greatest pilot of his day.
These are the rules.
Try to secure advantages before attacking.
If possible, keep the sun behind you.
This puts the glare of the sun at the enemy's eyes and makes it difficult to see you and impossible for him to shoot with any accuracy.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Always carry through an attack when you've started it.
Okay. Fire only at close range and only when your opponent is properly in your science.
Yeah. Always keep an eye on your opponent and never let yourself be deceived by ruses.
Oh yeah, don't fall for ruses. If you say a ruse and you're just like, hold
I'm going to fall for this one. Yeah. You're a full four. That's a good looking Roo's over there.
Like, I'll investigate that Roo's.
What's that behind that Roo's?
Yeah, but check it out.
Number five, in any form of attack,
it is essential to assail your enemy from behind.
I imagine back then it was difficult
to shoot back with so that's what.
From behind, sun's behind you.
You're like, they keep like moving.
I'm like, mate, you really need to stay in this straight line
here.
I need to sun behind me and I do in front, please.
Come on.
I'm gonna shoot you otherwise.
So rude.
Selfish and rude.
That's even worse, that's a double whammy.
This one sounds risky to me, but if your opponent dives on you, do not try to evade his
onslaught, but fly to meet it.
So, play chicken.
Yeah.
I went over the enemy's lines, never forget your own line of retreat.
A big problem back then is you get over enemy's lines and your engine would fail or you
get shot down and then, you you know you get captured. Yeah. So watch out for that.
And finally, for the squadron, attack on principle in groups of four or six when the
fight breaks up into a series of single combat take care that several do not go for the
same opponent.
So man up.
One on one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Many of Bulkers concepts conceived in 1916 are still applicable today, including the use
of sun and altitude, surprise attacks, and turning to meet a threat.
Oh wow.
People are still taught that.
Over 100 years later.
Amazing.
Rictoff had employed the list of tactics and his first confirmed downing of an enemy aircraft
happened on September 17th and 1916.
His autobiography states,
quote,
I honored the fallen enemy by placing a stone
on his beautiful grave.
The ultimate tribute.
Beautiful.
Stone, it was in his shoe,
making him quite uncomfortable.
So while it was passing the grave.
He does empty it.
Yeah.
Beautiful, beautiful.
Beautiful, beautiful.
Beautiful, beautiful grave. Beautiful grave. To celebrate his first victory,
Rictoffen ordered a silver cup engraved with the date and the type of enemy plane.
A tradition he maintained throughout most of his career. He's kept silver cups of all of his
his wins. And he had to keep expanding the trophy kept. Wow. Because now a flying ace, it's a distinguished title
given to a military aviator credited with shooting down
five or more enemy aircraft during aerial combat.
So you get five, your effort was an ace for life.
Wow.
Five doesn't seem like that much over the course
of hopefully a long career.
I mean, I haven't done it,
so I'm not saying it's not impressive.
Because that shows how hard it is to do.
Yeah, so that's sort of the scale we're working on here.
Five people go, oh shit, you're pretty,
you're really good. Wow.
You're like in the top percentile type thing.
And I say the Baron kept up his tradition
of getting an engraved silver cup
for most of his victories.
He did so until his 60th victory. Wow.
When the war limited the availability of silver
in Germany. So he ran out of silver for his cups.
Whoa.
Yeah, so five's good.
Five's in really impressive.
Yes, he got to 60 and went, I, okay, and they went, mate, we can't keep giving you
silver cups.
Wow. That's nuts.
His most famous scalp came early on when on the 23rd of November 1916 the Baron shot down British ace
Major Lanna Hawker VC the Baron described him as the Bolca of the Brits
Yeah, wow, he's like you know, he's hero and a VC his version. Yeah, and a Victoria Cross recipient and he shot him down pretty early on
Probably a sign of pretty good things to come for the Baron.
Sadly, he also saw Bulca, his own hero, shot down soon after that. Bulca was credited with 40
victories, which was in Gordar, as incredible at a time. So maybe he's that for a bit of a scale.
The man considered one of the godfathers of this whole thing had 40 victories.
Right. Now, I've already mentioned that he's going to get to at least 60. Wow.
I've rectified and received the poor
their marite in January 1917, which is a
Middle after the he's 16th confirmed kill. That's the highest military honor in Germany at the time and informally known as the blue max.
Oh the blue max. So you got that pretty pretty early on. He also assumed
command of Yastur 11, which ultimately included some of the elite German pilots, many of
whom he trained himself. Several of whom later became leaders of their own squadrons. His
younger brother, Lothar, was also a member. So his brother was also very, very good.
Yeah, wow. It was also during this time that Rictoffen took the step
of painting his Elbatross plane bright red.
You later wrote quote,
it occurred to me to have my packing case painted all over
in starring red.
The result was that everyone got to know my red bird.
My opponents also seem to have heard of the color transformation.
Oh.
So it was like a psych out almost.
Yeah, because it's kind of like counterintuitive.
You think about it like most of the time,
like even that's flying from the sun,
you want to do a surprise attack
and now he's cockily painted his plane
the most obvious color.
It's a bit of an arrogance thing, isn't it?
Not an arrogance, like yeah, that's right.
It's a psych out thing, like come at me.
You can easily identify me, I'm not scared.
Yeah, so that would only make his,
his the myth around him bigger.
Mm.
It would him big in it.
It would him big in the men.
Would you not agree, Dave?
So it would him big in it?
I believe a noble spirit in begins to the smallest man.
Yeah, that applies here.
Crominulent. From then on on you almost always flew a red plane of some sort, including the celebrated Focker tri-plane, which was a distinctive three-winged aircraft, which he's most commonly associated.
Is that takes me back to an Ony-3? Three wings. Why? Three layers. I see. Okay. I was imagining two on one side one on one. Oh no. So it's from the front. Three
horizontally. Yes. In his book he writes of a battle and it's almost like he knew he'd made it when
this happened. He'd just shot down an English plane. He said, I had the impression that my opponent
was wounded, for he did not fire a single shot. When I'd got down to an altitude of about 1,500 feet and in trouble, compelled me to land without
making any curves. The result was very comical. My enemy with his burning machine landed
smoothly, while I, his victor, came down next to him in barbed wire of our trenches and
my machine overturned. So he just crashed next to him. The two Englishmen who were not
a little surprised at my collapse greeted me like sportsmen.
As mentioned before, they had not fired a shot.
And they could not understand why I had landed so clumsily.
They were the first Englishmen who had brought down alive.
Consequently, it gave me particular pleasure to talk to them.
I asked them whether they had previously seen my machine in the air.
And one of them replied, oh yes
I know your machine very well. We call it the petite Rouge or the little red
So you just shut down this guy and then whenever man oh, yeah
Yeah, I've seen my plane before and they guys like oh, yes good sports. Yes. Well done. Well done sir
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Alright, back to the Red Baron.
We've rigged off in the helmet his powers in full flight, the Yastra 11 Squadron achieved
unparalleled success in the skies.
This peaked during April 1917.
In that month alone, the Red Baron single-handedly downed 22 British aircraft,
including four in a single day,
raising his own tally to 52.
Wow.
So 22 in a month.
That's nice.
And as I said before, five is pretty impressive.
Yeah.
Isn't that it doesn't that show how silly it all is?
Obviously, war's very silly, but that's like,
these people have no problem with each other,
but they're just going about trying to kill each other.
Yeah.
And they're the first ones I've brought down alive.
Yeah.
Yeah, crazy.
So it was quite interesting to have actually be able
to speak to them rather than just put a stone
on their grave.
Tragically, for the British at this time,
their training was inferior to begin with,
and they were losing so many men to replace the fall
and they had to keep training to a minimum and would often send out pilots well before they were ready. And men to replace the fall and they had to keep training to a minimum
and it would often send out pilots well before they were ready. And of course the less experienced
pilots were more likely to get taken out and it quickly became a vicious cycle. Yeah.
Where it's like, great, eight hours training, you know how to turn that thing on, get out there,
and suddenly... Go to Madison Square Garden. Yeah.
Not ready. You know what I mean? You've like just started flying and suddenly you've got the red
baron behind you, you're
going, oh shit.
Yeah.
So all of a sudden his numbers aren't that impressive.
He's shooting down children who've just, you know, went to walk.
In toy planes, yeah.
I'm trying to think of, if I've ever done 22 of anything in a month, maybe lived through
days.
Okay. 22. I've done 22 in a month. Maybe lived through days. Okay, 22, 22 in a month. Meals. Okay.
In a month. Easily, yes. Including four and one days. Sleeps. Sleeps. That's not
that. No, that's impossible. Sorry, stupid. I hate myself. You're just a loyal. I'm a lawyer. Stop fibbing. I've got bloody fibbing fibbing archery.
Hang on Matt. I just have to ask David question on your behalf. Thank you. Dave, could you edit that out?
Well I left it in when I accidentally said Archimedes. Well, I left it in when I accidentally said Archimedes. Well, Fibonacci instead of Archimedes.
So I'll never forget the tone with which you yelled fuck.
I was in the bathroom, Jules.
Oh, no.
Oh.
According to history.com, unlike many of World War I's top pilots who prided themselves on white knuckle erybatics,
Rick Hoffman was a very conservative and calculating tactician.
Preparing to avoid unnecessary risks, he typically fought in formation and relied on the out of his wingman
to ambush his enemies by diving at them from above.
Hmm.
So rather than taking crazy risks, some of them are a bit like, ah, I'll go out there and do a few flips, it'll be right.
This is more of your Steve War than your March War.
Yes.
Perfect analogy.
Absolutely.
That everybody understands, especially in this room.
So you're given the captaincy, but he won't do much commentating later.
Ah, ah, ah.
Really?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, big time.
Big time. Oh, yeah, I'm following.
Walking in with a bow up.
Not that resty of a batsman.
Yeah.
More of a, use the ice man gets the most out of himself,
makes the song sweet, famous.
That's right.
He's got that little red hang heap for some reason.
I think everyone's a boy down here.
Yeah, we're all getting up to, yeah.
You also released a photography book recently,
so there's something.
Yeah, so in these travels through India.
Yeah.
What a guy.
Yeah, that was like, watch the documentary about it.
It's good stuff.
I grew up a Mark War guy, but I reckon as I get older,
I've flipped, I'm now a Steve War.
Wow.
Even though I told you at the time that Steve War told me to piss off.
No, I love this.
I was at the Australian opening the tennis and he was, you know, there's all these different
things going on the outside courts. I just had an outside pass, would have been 14 or
15 or something.
And I think he was the captain at the time,
maybe the Australian cricket captain at the time.
And he was giving, he had some sunglasses deal
and he's given away sunglasses.
And the crowd sort of dispersed,
he's running out of sunnies, I go up to him,
I go, can I have a pair of sunnies?
And he goes, no, sorry mate, we we're all out and he's someone who is
handled or whatever and I go what about those ones on your head and he said
piss off idiot. Yeah this is piss off idiot I'm pretty sure it was
piss off something. Piss off mate or something like that.
And you're liking better because Mark all later told you to fuck off either you. You went, I'm a stable man. Piss off idiot.
I mean, you did deserve it.
No, 100%.
I was thinking back, I'm like, yeah, Farrell, I'll play the smart off.
Show you, be like, little 10 kid.
That's pretty, that's a pretty good quit.
Yeah.
Piss off idiot.
Oh, that's a great moment.
He's fucked off you little asshole.
I hate you.
Representing that sunglasses brand. Piss off moment. He's fucked off you little asshole. He's representing that sunglasses brand.
Piss off idiot.
That's so funny.
He's had a bad day.
He would know, but he would say that he looked at his hand
or like the cheek of this guy, he laughed.
And he has piss off of you.
Yeah.
It wasn't like with hate or anything.
Well, that's what we tell ourselves, isn't it, buddy?
No, no, no, no.
He thought I was incredibly funny and charming. Oh, no, no, no. He thought I was incredibly funny and charming.
Oh, no, I don't.
I think he was just like laughing at the cheek like this.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Kids at it, I sort of think.
He hated you.
He hated me, I still probably.
He knows you.
He knows you are right.
He looks you up on Facebook, you know.
He thinks about this as much as I do.
This once every now and again when his name comes up.
Peace off, idiot.
The red battering was given command
of the combined fighter squadrons number 4, 6, 10, and 11.
This new super unit was highly mobile
and could move it short notice to different parts
of the fronts as required. They became frequently known as the flying circus.
Due to the units brightly coloured aircraft and its mobility, including the use of tents,
trains and caravans where appropriate.
Is that where the term flying circus comes from?
As in multi-pathans?
I'm thinking so.
Yeah, right, there you go.
Actually, and this report, yeah, referencing a few previous topics here.
Although Riktoffen was now performing the duties of a lieutenant colonel, which is a
wing commander in modern royal air force terms, he was never promoted past the relatively
junior rank of Ritmeister equivalent to Captain in the British Army.
It's the Ritmeister.
A fun title.
Well, while we're talking about his rank in title, Richthofton was Friar, literally
free Lord, a title of nobility often translated as Baron.
Okay.
During his lifetime, he was more frequently described in Germany as derotter camp flager.
Fieryously translated as the red battle Battle Flyer or the Red Fighter pilot.
I really wish it was the whatever I said at the start.
Siky Bandit.
The Red Bandit.
The Red Bandit, thank you.
This name was used as the title of Richthoffin's 1917 autobiography.
You probably wrote it himself, but it was highly edited and censored by the German government.
Who used it as propaganda to be like, check out this war here a story, you should sign
up and find.
Yeah, right.
Took out all the bits for his like, I was so lonely up there.
I was really scared, I watched a lot of my friends die.
Take that out, take that out.
They left in the bit where it was flying along and it was had a wink in the middle of the
front.
Yeah, because I mean everybody reading that's like finally a private place to wax.
This wall's really taken away my ability to wink prominently.
That's why we're fighting, right?
I have to share a room with my 14 siblings.
I just want to wink.
People from the wing.
I'm so good.
I'm enlisting.
Sigour, there's trench, wank fear.
Let's take to the skies.
The Baron himself became a beloved propaganda symbol in Germany where he was lavished with
military decorations and featured numerous news articles and on postcards further increasing
his fame and reputation.
But he is now commonly referred to as a red Baron.
All over the world.
I like the idea of being on a postcard,
really just boosting your fame.
I'll take you to the next level.
What being on there?
You can buy a 10 pack of me at the post office, you know?
Yeah, pick it up, write a message on one side.
Yep.
Picture me on the other.
Put me on your fridge.
You bloody bitch.
In his own diaries, the aviator referred to himself
as the rot camp flagger, the red fighter pilot.
But he was also known as the petite rouge and the red knight.
In his own diary.
Yeah.
Not just, if I had a diary, it would be like, today I went to the shop.
He's writing today, Des Lugan, Flugan, Faden, Rugan went to the shops.
Yeah, and...
Did I might have mispronounced some of that? No, you were close to the knight, was probably. That's what it's like. That's what it's like. That's what it's like. That's what it's like. That's what it's like.
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really in the second. Yeah, it's the sky.
And a country on the other side, it wasn't, I mean, I should look into it probably before
making such savings. Right. Are you asking me to do a history of all-raw-one?
Thank you. Thank you. I mean, can I put it any more clearly?
And then, Dave, if you could follow it up with a World War II as well, that would be ideal. Fantastic. Even more clearly. And then Dave, if you could follow it up with World War II as well, that would be ideal.
Fantastic.
Even more complicated.
Genuinely would love a podcast, Dave, by you, to us in the room about World War I and
World War II.
That's all.
If it takes you a few weeks, that's fine.
Yeah, if we...
Like a few weeks off, is that what you're saying?
Yeah, yeah.
Because otherwise, it's split up and it's almost every month and we forget stuff. So it would make sense for it to be consecutive. Yes. Okay. So yes,
please. Please. Please. So you do like each episode is a year, not in 14, not in 15, not in 16,
17, not in 18. There you go. I'm gonna two weeks off and then I straight to a photo. Yeah.
Two weeks off. But obviously it's two weeks off for all of us.
It'd be weird for Matt to do some sort of biography
in between the walls.
So we'll all have a break and then back we come.
Or maybe in those two weeks,
you just do a couple of reports about the years in between.
Yeah, I write.
It's happening in the years.
Like the Great Depression.
Yeah. Yeah, something fun and light, and then back into war.
Like exactly, I mean, everyone needs like a little,
a little reset totally.
Well, I was gonna get one final name that he's been called
is the Ace of Aces.
Ooh, that's good.
Which is such a badass name.
Yeah.
I would have started, you were right early, that's a bad name. The Ace of Aces, that's not good. Which is such a bad ass name. Yeah. I would have started, you were right early.
That's a bad name.
The Ace of Aces, that's not good.
You don't think so, that's such a cool,
that's a cool title.
The Ace of Base, that's a cool bad name.
Yeah, that's good.
But the Ace of, like you're roaming Ace with Ace.
The Ace ate my face.
Ace, the Ace of Faces, yeah, I'm in.
No, no, no, to the said Ace of my Faces.
I said my Faces. Does it have to rhyme for something to be cool? That was a joke. Yeah, I'm in. No, no, no, I said, I said my face. I said my faces. Does
I have to rhyme for something to be cool? So you're saying, yeah, I don't even know who
you are. Well, they call me the ace of aces. Oh, it's bad. It's cool. Ace of aces. Because
okay, yeah, it's very cool. He's the best, because do you think being called a phyta pilot ace or an ace phyta pilot?
Yeah, that's very.
That's cool.
Yeah, but he's the ace of the aces.
Oh, I lost it, because I thought that was cool.
You have lost it.
The ace of aces.
You know the Melbourne baseball team's called the aces
and they've all got to have killed five people.
Before they could win the game.
On the field?
Yeah.
Yeah, it gets really bloody.
Wow.
We do baseball a little different here.
The Baron endured numerous close calls during his flying career, having to crash land a couple
of times, but he suffered his first serious war wound on July 6, 1917 when he sustained a fractured
skull after being grazed by a bullet during a dog fight with a British aircraft.
Wow.
Well, they call them dog fights, by the way,
when they go, man, I'm man.
Yeah.
Playing on plane.
It's a dog fight.
I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.
Because that's our dog's fight in here.
Yeah.
Shooting guns at each other in between this spinning propellant.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah, dog fight.
As I understand them, never had a dog,
but that's how I picture that fight. Oh, yeah. Big time. We have to go I understand him, never had a dog, but that's how I picked with a fight.
Oh yeah, big time.
We have to go to the park, take his plane.
Here we go.
Help him take off and then just sit back
and watch if he fights on the dogs.
Tearful goodbye, hopefully, survives again.
Good luck, Goose.
You are four months old.
It's time to eat.
Goose isn't Goose one of the names of one of the fighters in that movie.
Yeah, everyone's like, oh, you're going to get another dog name at Maverick.
I'm like, no.
I've seen these dog fights already.
Yeah, I'm sick of watching my little dog go off to war every day at the park.
I go take him to a different park, but this one's convenient.
So he was shot, well kind of shot,
grazed, but it fractured his skull. He was able to regain consciousness and time to make a force landing, but he was then hospitalized. And this is one of the few times he wasn't flying
an all-red plane. Is that any relation to being shot down? I don't know, but I'm thinking yes.
Probably yes. He was grounded for 40 days. He required multiple operations and to be honest, he never quite recovered.
Some historians have since speculated that he may have been suffering from PTSD post-traumatic
stress disorder, and he also suffered from headaches and nausea.
Despite this, he insisted on flying again.
He had become a legend in Germany, and it was fear that his death would be a big blow
to the morale of the German people, so he was kind of encouraged to retire on top.
But he refused a ground job after his crash, and despite injuries, he stated, every poor
fellow in the trenches must do his duty.
So he's like, I got it as well.
So therefore, he continued to fly in combat.
It does not sound like he was doing very well.
This is what he wrote of the time.
This is his diary.
He doesn't refer to it in something third-person.
Disappointing.
He says, I feel terrible after every air battle,
probably an after effect of my head wound.
When I again sit foot on the ground,
I withdraw to my quarters and don't see anybody
or hear anything.
I think of the war as it really is,
not with a horror
and a roar as the people at home imagine that it is much more serious, bitter. That's
the kind of stuff that the German government would be like, all right, it's a red pin
through that section. The war is sick. I love it. I wish wars went forever.
So he and he's only really started to feel like this since he got shot or yeah, right people second the fun out of it a bit
Formally star ends of really you. You look through his diaries. It's like wow. He's really changing tone now
Yeah, now that it's not just him killing people. Yeah
In 1937 Richthoff and mother the Baroness von Richthoff and published I'm gonna have a crack here mine
Craig stagboard my war diary a V diary, a vivid memoir of her war years.
PBS published in the excerpt of a diary that I'll link to. It recalled the last time
her now famous son visited the family home. And it reminds you of the horrors of war.
This is him returning home a changed man. She writes, together we inspected the pictures
that man for it had brought along from the front.
A very fine photo showed a group of young flying officers, his comrades from the first
action he saw in Russia, in the centre below them was Manfred. I looked at the picture
of all the laughing young men and was pleased with it. What has become of him I pointed
to the first? Fallen. I indicated the second, also dead, and his voice sounded harsh asked no further. They're all dead
This is back in her own words all dead except man for it as if he read my thoughts from my forehead
He said you won't need to worry in the air. I have nothing to fear not in the air
We can cope with them even if there are many more meaning the enemy
But imagine that point of the photo being like he's dead. He's gone
Yeah, and then he's she's looking at a sunlight recovering from a horrific injury, being quite worried about him.
Yeah, understandable. Yeah, brutal. Yeah, it is funny that he's obviously not connected.
The people he's killing with being real people. Yeah.
And then, but the people on his side is really bumming him out. He's like that sucks.
I guess you can't.
You obviously wouldn't be able to be like,
I really need to look into this person.
I want to know about their wife and kids.
Yeah, oh gosh.
Waiting at home, probably going to be devastated now
that I've shot their father down.
Yeah.
He's kind of got the attitude until this point anyway of like,
you know, nights like joling with each other.
Yeah. And it's like, you know, you're doing it
for the glory of the nation.
And you know, and he's like, I'm prepared to die there,
prepared to die with both being like these vay,
brave men with lots of valor,
but as the war's gone on,
he's sort of opened up his eyes a bit to be like,
oh, actually this is pretty, pretty bleak.
Yeah.
Later he had to see a dentist drink this visit
and his mother heard him say, actually, there's really no point no point in it anymore like why am I bothering to see the dentist? Yeah
This that's grim. Well, despite his injuries and changed outlook after this horrific crash
Estonis singly the baron managed another 23 victories far out which even if you did just that would be an incredible record
But sadly, awkward things must come to an end.
Oh no, he didn't lose his wisdom teeth.
Oh no, he's not his whizzies.
I'd give anything to have my whizzies back.
Oh, miss them every day.
I kept mine in a jar.
Kiss them good night.
No, not whizzies.
No, no.
The shake come up a little bit.
Ooh.
Sometimes I forget that I don't have them there,
and I try and chew with the back of my mouth.
I can't do it.
Solid.
Phantom whizzies.
Oh no.
Sometimes I try to draw any kind of wisdom.
Uh-oh.
I can't.
From the back.
I sucked them from you.
God.
I'm dumb.
I'm dumb now.
I didn't tell me it had happened.
I thought I just called a wisdom teeth.
It's a fun reason.
Every time I take one out,
they get a little smarter.
I wake up a little bit.
I wake up a little bit.
You look over the dentist,
he's got 50, 70.
He's got 500 wisdom teeth.
I found out that it was a little bit of two-few teeth.
I don't have enough teeth.
Oh, you need a donor.
What do you mean you don't have enough?
I've only got 24 teeth. Oh, you need a donor. What do you mean you don't have enough? I've only got 24 teeth.
It's not that many teeth.
You only have 24 teeth.
Yeah.
And you wouldn't even enter 26.
No, it's like 32 or something, I think, is.
Yeah, right.
Normal adult math is 32 teeth.
Yeah, I've got 24.
Is it normal to have 24 teeth?
It says people also ask.
Yeah, and it says that by the age of eight, normal to have 24 teeth? It says people also ask.
Yeah, and it says that by the age of eight,
you have about 24 teeth.
So I got the same man of teeth as an eight-year-old.
Which one's you reckon you missing molars?
I'm missing.
I had six teeth taken up before I had braces,
but they weren't all adult teeth.
And then I have had my wisdom teeth out.
So even if like two of them were adult teeth,
I'm missing six teeth that sort of adds up, you know?
Wow.
But yeah, it was a day that rattled me, let me tell you.
I think I've got 28, I just try to get out of my toe.
Do you still have that?
And that and four have been taken out.
Yeah, that's about right.
Look at you, a little perfect mouth.
Wow.
Congrats on that perfect mouth.
Well, I've long suspected that under that beard was a perfect mouth.
Oh my God.
I just counted.
69 teeth.
Nice.
I'm sorry Dave, all good things must come to an end.
Oh yeah, sorry, all good things must come to an end.
Hopefully the barren's family is listening, hoping for good news.
I know, like, let's get to it.
From the front?
Oh, no.
It's not talking about your fucking teeth.
It's our son out there.
On April 21st, 1918, Richthofen flew off with nine other planes from the airfield at
Kappy France.
Soon the German flyers were in combat with a squadron of RAF, sop with camels, led by
Canadian pilot Arthur Roy Brown.
At some point during his battle,
the Red Baron was pursuing a plane piloted
by novice Canadian pilot named Wilfred Wop May.
Who would let it go on to help search
for the man Trapper of Rat River?
I mentioned him in that report.
Wow.
Wow, what a life.
He was the last person pursued
and also he was a novice pilot.
So, one of those people, you look back and go,
oh, fuck, it's the Red Baron.
Oh, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
Oh, shit, shit, shit.
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck.
No, what I do, what I do, what I do,
what I do, I object to see.
Not invented yet.
Oh, shit.
So, the Red Baron's chasing what may,
who had reportedly been on the tail of the Red Baron's cousin who
had just joined the squad.
So the Red Baron sees his cousin being attacked and goes, I'm going to help him out.
No fuck you.
No fuck you on the red fucking Baron.
He flew uncharacteristically low and into enemy territory.
So he really followed Watme.
And this is against one of his own rules and his own usual tactics.
According to the University of Kansas, the Red Baron himself was chased away by a
seasoned Canadian pilot, Captain Arthur Brown, who had dived steeply and fired at him before
climbing to avoid crashing into the ground.
The Baron resumed his pursuit of may, but shortly, facing concentrated fire from Australian
troops on the ground, he met a rough landing in a field near the Somme River.
The soldiers who had fired on his plane from the ground
got to his wrecked Fokka troplain,
and may or may not have heard his last words,
which allegedly included the word
Kapoot, meaning defeated or destroyed.
Rumour to be one of the last things he said.
He said his name in the third person,
and then he said, could put it.
He had been struck by a single bullet in the chest and despite his injuries, he was able
to crash land before dying.
So he crashed the...
He'd still landed the plane, pretty good.
The plane was not badly damaged by the landing, but it was soon taken apart by souvenir hunters.
They all recognised it as a very famous plane.
And the big question is, well, who actually shot him down?
Well, let me just tell you over a century later,
people are still debating it.
Wow, it's a mystery.
Ah.
The raft credited Brown, this shooting down the Red Baron,
that's the Canadian pilot.
But it has now generally agreed that the bullet,
which hit Rick Hoffman, was fired from the ground.
There were many Australian soldiers on the ground firing at the plane because it was at such
low altitude and some contend that the entry and exit points of the bullet would indicate that
the fatal shot came from an Australian machine gun unit. Wow. And the people who suggest that are. Aussies. Australia. Yeah.
Clinging on to railing. Aussie Aussie Aussie.
Well, even the trusted source that is in cyclopetia Britannica rights,
quote, he was killed in his red Focka triplane when caught in a barrage of Australian
enemy ground fire during a battle. And if it's good enough for Britannica,
it's good enough for this guy. Okay.
It's so weird how we will cling on to any reference to Australia
because when it was like Australian told us I was like,
woo!
I know, honestly, me too.
I was like, that's kind of interesting.
That's us!
That's us! We Australian!
Wow!
We're involved!
We've got such a complex because we're so far away from everything and such a
relatively young country in terms of white Australia. So it's always like we were there cool
Yeah, and also like so few people and you know to be honest relevance on a world stage. Yeah, you go
Wow, we shot down the red barit. Well per capita. We did pretty good at this Olympics
down the red baron. Well per capita we did pretty good at this Olympics.
Yeah.
Per capita we did pretty well at shooting down this red baron.
Yeah, oh right.
Pretty good.
Let's take that win everybody.
Honestly though it is so contestant.
If you Google red baron, which I did to this day, most of the articles that come up are
titled, who really shot the red baron or we finally know who shot down the red baron.
There's so many historians who are yeah are so big on this.
Just to go back a sec there, David, did you say you Google to the red baron?
Yes, I did. Just to make sure he wasn't canceled.
No, I had to get through his background a little bit, you know.
I don't get on here, speak for an hour about someone in people's week.
It's like, oh my god.
Shit, you know what he did
He shut down many people which I'll reveal the final tally into a second
But despite his plane being pulled apart for souvenirs his body was treated with respect
Ally troops recovered it and buried him with full military on it
So they held like a full service had the 12 gunshots lit all that stuff because he was such a respected
Enemy which according to some diaries in the Australian War Museum which
I'll also link to the Aussies that were there that day it did not go that down
that well with everyone on the ground some people are a bit like why are we
honoring him like this I will I only want to honor him if we know that our
soldiers are being honored like this on the other side okay I don't think they
are all right are the red baron was just 25 years old when he dollarsed.
Whoa!
I'm picturing a middle-aged man with a mustache.
I was thinking before I was like,
I mean, it's 25 year old could have a mustache.
Yeah, well, I mean Dave couldn't have, but now.
That's right, I've only come to my own last year or so.
Oh, the 25 year olds might have been able to grow a facial hair.
That's Nazi was 25.
And this is, this blue man mind as well.
It was just 19 months between his first victory
and his last.
No way.
And in that time?
And in that time, and also his last victory came
just one day before he died.
So it was prolific right up until the end.
Incredible.
In those short 19 months, he had 80 confirmed aerial victories.
80. 80 80 thank God
It's not like 82 bang on 80 bang on 80 which proved to be the most of any pilot on either side of World War one
So he really was the ace of aces. Oh, so I'm trying to make ace of aces. Come on
It's not a thing. It'll never be a thing. It's not gonna catch on. It's not gonna happen
What 80 80?
80, the closest was a French guy got 75.
Fucking hell, that's still.
Which is amazing, honestly, yeah, but, like,
I mean, that's very close.
But 80 is like, fun, in 19 months as well.
Yeah, such a short period of time.
It's 25 years old, and before that, you know,
we didn't really fly, we just learned to fly
and then became the best up there.
It's amazing.
25, wow.
That is hectic.
So he died quite young, obviously.
As head of his own squadron, he had to be replaced
and he was succeeded by fellow ace, Herman Goring,
who would survive the war to become famous in World War II
as Hitler's right hand man.
Oh.
And was one of the most powerful people in Nazi Germany.
I've never heard of him, I don't know.
Herman Goring?
Yeah, that name vaguely rang a bell in that, okay, that makes sense.
Very famous for stealing a lot of Jewish artwork,
and I'm asking, like it became an obsession of him
to have his own hundreds of millions of dollars
worth of paintings and jewelry and stuff like that.
Yeah, but so he was also a great ace in the world war one, but he survived and then would
go on to be an extremely powerful person in Nazi Germany.
The Red Baron's younger brother, Lothar von Richthoffen, also became an ace and had 40 kills
to his name. So it's still incredible. And he survived the war.
He continued to fly after the war however and sadly died in a crash
in 1922 at the age of 27.
So young.
Yeah, right. And the Red Baron has been depicted in
popular culture all over the place. His legend has just grown and grown and
he's been in film and movies, Sno on peanuts frequently imagined being a world where one fighter
pilot and the red barren was his opponent.
Um, including in the most recent peanuts movie so it's still a recurring motive.
But of course Matt, the big question is what about band names?
Well I'm glad you asked because I have found on Spotify there's a lot, but with different
spellings there's one with two hours in barren.
Oh, there's actually two with two hours in barren.
There's the red barren, there's red barren, there's another red barren, action in the red
barren, red barren band, but the only one on Wikipedia.org. Oh yes.
Is the Red Baron Band?
And they were an American Christian and straightage band
where they primarily played a hardcore punk style of music.
They're from West Palm Beach, Florida,
performing between 040 and I.
So I don't think they were particularly successful,
but successful enough to get an
orange page.
Orch. Well, I also discovered one. And that was Spanish heavy metal band that achieved
international success in the 1980s. Baron Royo, which is, Royo was red in Spanish.
Okay. In 2017, they were ranked number 18 on Rolling Stones 50 greatest Spanish rock bands.
Oh, okay. Well, there you go, they're probably the one then.
But the red baron has inspired so many bands
that have not gone on to do great things,
but a lot of bands.
And some of them are probably good, I haven't listened to that.
So if you're just going quantity over quality.
Yeah, he's had a lot of kills again.
Yeah, fucking hell, he's good. He can't be stopped. He cannot be stopped quantity over quality. Yeah, he's had a lot of kills again. Yeah, fucking hell, he's good.
He can't be stopped.
He cannot be stopped even after death.
Wow, that's really interesting, Dave.
I knew none of that, none at all.
I must say, I knew there was some Aussie connection
with what happened, you know, people claiming,
what happened with when he was shot down,
but I really didn't know anything about him either.
And it just blew my mind that he was only active
for so a few months and he was so prolific.
And that five is considered an ace and he had an ace.
Yeah, well, they just, I mean, they just had to come up with that title ace of aces because
they, you know, they're all, oh, I don't really expect this.
And it's just a, it is a cool nickname as well.
That's got to be a big part of it.
And having a red plane, those are the kinds of things that all get someone going in the consciousness or whatever, the public
consciousness.
In the history books.
Yeah.
Nice work day, great report. Well, that brings us to everyone's favorite section of the
show. I believe the fact quote or question section, which has a jingle which goes something
like this.
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This was a personal choice by myself. But next week's we'll just have chosen
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I'm able to talk more about them later.
But this one, you get to give us a factor quote
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And the first one comes from Catherine Klo.
Catherine C, L-O-U-G-H, Klo, Klaow, Kloff.
Kloff?
Kloff? Kloff.
Yeah.
Catherine writes,
or firstly, she gets to give herself a title, which is record holder
for most coffee sprayed across dash from laughing it do go on.
But not again, it's record.
Apparently those guys are real bastards.
Yeah, they're real preachers.
But you're reckon, is she an ace of this?
Is this happen five times or more?
Yeah, I get that feeling.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, record holder, yeah.
It's not a really sticky dash now. Catherine asked the question. You three are just the best.
Oh, Catherine, fantastic start of question. Great question. I'm listening. True or false?
True. And of kept us laughing for many years, even when things were a bit grim. Is there anything we can do for you to say thank you?
Money.
No.
I think writing lovely messages like that is very nice.
Catherine.
Yeah, you've already done a lot.
I guess the usual way to support the show, I would say, tell a friend.
Yeah, absolutely.
That is very nice.
Get on social media if that's your thing.
Spread the word about it.
Give us a review on something nice.
It is always nice too.
Because that just sort of, yeah,
gets us out there and the more people that find us,
you know, the more likely we're going to keep going.
I reckon a lot of the people who listen,
probably the majority,
found us because someone recommended to us to them.
It's someone on another podcast or a friend,
a family member.
It's a real word of mouth game.
So we appreciate anyone who has ever.
I do know there are also people who are just someone, probably listened to today, who just
search on their pod at Red Baron and they will just feel like learning about the Red Baron
today.
But I hope you hear about that Spanish rock band from the 80s.
Oh, they're a Red Baron fanatic who just wants to listen to feel frustrated at people who aren't quite
nailing certain pronunciations and things. But anyway, yeah, Katherine, what a lovely message.
Thanks so much. I mean, you're already supporting us on the Patreon. Oh, that's, I mean, that's a huge way to support the show.
So thank you so much. Absolutely. You are a legend. Thank you so much.
Katherine, the next one and thanks so much for spraying that coffee. Keep spraying that coffee.
Best way to support us is spraying that coffee.
Because you pull up with the lights and you go,
someone's laughing so hard over there
that they just spray their coffee.
One in the window.
Hey, what are you listening to over there?
Because I assume you're listening to something.
I'll send you a link.
Yeah.
Yeah, air drop you a link.
Oh, air drop.
Oh, air drop.
Oh, no, they're sending me a photo of someone's butt.
Yeah, it's sick. on. Oh, hair drop. Oh, no, they just sent me a photo of someone's butt.
Yeah, it's pretty sick.
Ha, ha, ha, ha.
I plan the long game.
If you've got, honestly, I mean, I should say this off pod,
but stop hair dropping me pictures of butts.
I'll send you 50, you got to guess which is mine.
Oh, I know.
I know that touch anywhere.
All right, 50 of mine from the different angles.
Ha, ha, ha.
The next one comes from Paul Mellor, who has given himself the title of Ambassador for
Do Go On, Bracket, Oldham Branch, close bracket.
Love it, awesome. We've been really, really many to expand.
Yeah.
Further round Oldham.
Yeah. Oldham.
Oldham.
Sorry, we've also got someone, I believe we're trying to recruit someone in Oldham.
Yes. So we're really to recruit someone in Aldham.
Yes.
So we're really spreading, but Aldham, one of my favorite places.
Paul has given us a fact, this is Paul's fact.
Did you know that the first British fried chip originated in Tommyfield, Aldham, in around
1860, from which the origins of fish and chip shops and the fast food industries can
be traced.
Wow.
Great work.
Love you bringing back to older, my favorite voice.
And thank you.
Thank you for Chippies.
Yes, honestly.
Wow.
My favorite food, Chippies.
Says, I don't quite,
I think it's the top of an area
and I can't figure out what it is.
So I'll just say it as it's written.
There is no named Old Hamer associated with this milestone in food history,
but shortly afterwards Mr. John Lee's established the first fish and chip shop in the world,
locally in a wooden kiosk in Mosley.
Around the same time, another gent, Mr. Joseph Marlin, claimed the same in London.
Whoever fried the first chip may be a mystery, but my town claimed the origin.
Thanks Paul and I think that red
like there wasn't a topo, didn't it?
I didn't hear a topo.
I was wrong. Okay great.
Sorry Paul.
Can I piggyback off that fact?
Yeah. This might be very obvious
and people are like, yeah we all know that,
but I didn't know this.
You know how you got to a place
to have triple cooked chips?
No. No. You know that? Triple cooked fries, like they've been fried three times. I kind of think you know how that had a pop
No, well this fact is gonna absolutely bomb
I feel like everywhere's got those things. I've heard of beer-battered chips. Yeah, triple cooked fries never had those
Well, you know, I can't ever think of double cooked fries. Just fries, I've had fries. That sounds very oily.
It'd be almost too crispy.
Well, for the people at home that are cultured
and have experienced triple cooked chips,
this might blow your mind or you might be like,
yeah, we all know that.
They were invented by Heston Blumenthol.
Oh, that makes sense.
1993.
That does make sense.
Heston, he's crazy.
He's crazy, but, oh man,
I thought everyone had tried a triple cook chip.
Where are you getting triple cook chips?
It's just like a pub staple.
We really don't think we're mixing the same circles.
Yeah, you must go to the fancy affluent.
The pubs we go to just says chips,
get them or don't fuck it.
Yeah, that's on the menu.
It's very aggressive.
So,
Don't take us to this fancy establishment.
Well, I have just Googled triple-cooked chips in Melbourne,
and the number one thing that comes up is
try the triple-cooked chips at Rockpool Bar and Grill,
which is a famously expensive restaurant.
Yeah.
Okay, sorry, Bron.
You fancy a little fart.
If you really out of yourself there as a fancy little fart.
This next one comes from
McGarry J and the UK.
Hi, Gary.
And Gary J's title is next in Tibet.
It's a little cricket tournament.
That's good Gary.
Oh, this one Gary, good area is Gary.
All right, Gary rewards a question.
I love my cricket.
Oh, there you go.
What?
We didn't know that Gary.
I love my cricket so I was wondering
if you were playing cricket
hypothetically. And one of your co-hosts came into bat while you were fielding in close, maybe
silly mid-off. How did you sledge them to get in their head? Well, I mean, what did we just call Dave?
Fancy little fuck? Fancy little fuck. Hey boys, check out this out this fancy little actually nothing works on Dave that's what's hard
no I reckon I know what works on Dave
wait we go
Dave we just took a group photo
you look a bit shit
your eyes are closed I'm posting it
oh please don't
oh please don't
I know I've been bold out
oh no
Gary why are you starting
turf war do go on?
How would we throw Matt off his game?
I would just say, hey Matt, piss off idiot. Steve War since his beta.
I just have some PTSD. He's a hard one.
And to Jess, I would just whisper, hey, you've never done this before.
That's a really hard ball.
You could get seriously injured.
Just walk around.
I think probably what any of us could say to any of us would be, you're bad at cricket.
You are not good at this.
You will, this will not go well.
Dave, you've never been good at sports.
Why are you starting in your 30s?
You can't even hold the bat. Yeah, great question, Gary.
Great one.
Ideally though, I should say, and this is a rule on primates.
If you ask a question, you've got to answer the question.
Yeah, yeah.
So in that case, Gary, we really needed what sledge we would be able to give to you in
reply. No pressure. Don't have to answer it now, but next time you ask a question or
anyone ask a question. Answer it. Answer as well. For fun. And also to give us an
answer. I thought you were asking me for fuck's sake. For fun! Come on! And finally this
week on the fact quote a question, we've got one from Roy Phillips and it's another question.
Let's see if Roy falls to the rules.
I like that. That I probably haven't ever said apart from one problem.
But you've said that you enjoy it when it happens. Yeah.
Yeah. You've definitely praised it.
So this one from, oh Roy Phillips, sorry whose title is Tongue Twister Extraordinaire.
What are you doing with that tongue?
Mr. Extraordinaire. What?
What are you doing with that tongue?
La, la, la, la, la, la.
Roy asks, have you used any of the facts you learn
on this show in conversation?
Oh, and he does, he answers.
Yes, well done, Roy.
I guess I definitely have, but you know, I don't retain much.
I can't think of specifics, but I have definitely been like,
yeah, we've done a report on that.
And I remember this part.
Yeah, I remember two.
One that first came to mind,
which I've definitely dropped into conversations was
that hue and pine never rot.
Yeah, amazing. Thank you Andy Matthews for that one.
I love that one.
From the gentleman Bush Range episode,
he had a whole chunk on hue and pine, blue and my mind.
The other one that comes to mind,
I remember telling a few people after we recorded,
was the Franklin expedition,
how, spoiler if you haven't heard it,
but how it turned out the tins were soldered cheaply
and the lead ended up poisoning the food.
Yeah.
Mm, that is a wild, what a wild, they packed so much food.
Yeah.
That was so well prepared.
It wasn't good.
And that's what brought him on stuck.
I like to tell people about how
Dolly Pattons I will always love you.
It's not in fact a love song, but a resignation song.
That's a great fact.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Saying it to Porta Wagner in his office.
So good.
As a resignation.
And he said, you can leave, as long as I can produce this record or something like that.
Some of that.
Yeah, great.
He said, I've definitely used that as well.
Yeah.
He said, I'm going to have to stop you there.
I really have to take this call.
So if you could just, and I second hold it there.
Sorry, darling, sorry.
I've definitely, yeah, we'll whip out the old factor route.
Like tonight.
Dave, that's what is nickname for is Johnson.
The factor route.
The factor route.
Yeah, we're about the factor route.
And then once I've put that away, then I tell people,
so interesting two bits.
And then I say, my friend Elsa, trauma virtual,
telling me that the plural for penis is penis.
Penis!
Quite a good fact.
I forgot that fact, that's a great fact.
I reckon people say penite.
Yeah, it is.
Penite penises.
But it's penis.
Penis, what's Roy's one?
Roy's is, I use the challenge of blowing up because the O rings were too cold
at work the other day.
I applied, it applied to the situation.
Okay, got you.
Also just everyone's quiet in the office.
So the challenger went down because the O-ring.
Okay, Roy.
Thanks for having me.
We talked about this, Roy.
Roy, we're trying to run the Kindergarten here, Roy.
Yeah, please stop telling the children about tragedies.
They were all very good examples of facts, quotes and questions.
Thank you so much, Catherine Paul, Gary and Roy.
Thanks everyone.
I'd like to say you get involved on that if you go to the City Shamburg
Deluxe Memorial level edition.
Fantastic.
Now we also like to thank a few other supporters
who are on the shout out level, which I always forget what it is,
but I think it's one of...
$5 a month or more.
Yes.
Asprod.
Asprod level.
Just on becomes a little game to play, something to do with the topic, and it would
be any thought...
It's got to be a colour and a title.
Oh yeah.
Fantastic.
We've got to give them their own bad-ass title.
A colour and a term for not being able to have kids.
So now quickly we'll run out of that. color and a term for not being able to have kids.
So now quickly we'll run out of that. So the blue star isle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Don't waste it Dave, save it.
No, it can be it can be a color anything.
Great.
Love it.
All right.
Well, if I can kick it off, I'd love to say thank you so much from
Makina in Illinois United States.
Sean Gallagher.
Sean Gallagher.
Sean Gallagher. How about the green whipper snipper?
Yes.
I love it.
Cause you know, spinning blades.
Yeah, that's kind of an assure.
You hear it and you go, what's that?
Oh my God, it's the green whipper snipper.
I think green doesn't make you sound as scary as red. Somebody's the red whipper snipper. I think green doesn't make you sound as scary as red.
Somebody's in the red whipper snipper sounds more scary.
Green's good.
See, are you kind of imagine he,
he doesn't in a friendly way.
Wait, are these people all killing,
are they all killing machines?
That's for them to decide.
Okay, fantastic.
In a way, aren't we all killing machines?
So many ways. You know what I mean? Thank you so much, Sean, you green whipper
snipper. And I'd also love to thank without a location or a surname. I'd love to
thank supporter of of over a year Annie. Annie. Annie.
You know, I must go up here.
What are you thinking?
Well, I'll give you a color just me.
Go up for something like this.
Yeah.
In the UK somewhere.
Okay.
Okay, what about the
the Move
Whale?
Oh, that's pretty good.
The Move Whale.
The Move Whale.
That's awesome.
That could be a cute picture book.
Yeah, it's like little move whale.
And it's like, it's like the little whale is move and it's like, oh I'm different.
It's like the rainbow fish.
What's the rainbow fish thing?
Yeah, and then it ends up becoming a string that it shares its little scales that a rainbow
with the others.
Yeah, it's like that.
So I'm different.
But then that's what makes you special.
That's right.
The move whale. The little move whale. That's cute. but then that's what makes you special. That's right. The Move Wild. Yeah, a little Move Wild.
That's cute.
Matt, that's cute.
That's cute.
Move Wild.
Move was my Nana's favorite color.
There you go.
But he's a real Nana color.
I don't know my grandma's favorite color.
I'll ask her next time.
Well, I was lucky I got in because she has passed on.
So get in while you still can.
Yeah, ask that question while you can.
Because that information, you know, that goes with them.
Probably I haven't put that down anyway.
Yeah. Well, actually, that's a good note too.
While you are alive, write down some of what you've ever
called for the next generation.
I was like, on the record here, my and his blue.
Mine's green.
Yes.
Also,
blue. Yes. Thank, blue, yes.
Thank you.
And I think that's us, isn't it?
You two always teaming up.
Yeah, I guess you.
Bit different, but so small.
It makes with you and then another primary color.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect.
That's us.
That's us.
Two or three.
Yeah, but that's us.
But then what's interesting about is that you and Dave have blue eyes and I have green
eyes.
Whoa.
What?
Yeah.
So it's like it should be you and I should swap but it just works this way.
I'm tripping it out.
I know.
Am I a wanker for liking blue then?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because essentially you're just saying I love my own eyes.
What I do.
They're beautiful.
So you see? I was at a market resting, there was a stall there,
they exclusively take a photo of your eyes
and then print it out.
Oh, okay.
That's for what?
Do you just have a,
like as artwork?
So you could just have artwork in your house of your own eye.
Yeah.
Okay.
I kept walking.
We are running out of business ideas, aren't we?
They were not quite sure.
People do a lot of like, you know, pet portraits.
And maybe it's the new, you know, how you, like people had those bumper stickers of their families.
Like the little stick figures, maybe the new thing is like the eyeball of everybody.
But our family.
Yeah, I can.
Oh, everyone's eyeball in the family.
Yeah.
Yeah, the new thing up on the top of the mantle.
Wow. Wow.
Beautiful.
So lovely.
Beautiful love.
Actually, Dave, I'm going to need the details of that mark.
A real feature piece.
And finally for me, I'd love to thank from Pascovow,
just down the road in Melbourne, Zoe Clippingdale.
Oh, that's a fantastic name, Zoe.
Yeah, glower yellow.
Yes.
Because I accidentally said glowy, that felt right.
Oh, it's really gold, but flurry yellow.
Gold, yeah, gold.
Gold, finch.
Oh, gold finch, which is a kind of bird.
Yeah, that's right.
And also that's a book, the golden finch.
Yes, but I'm not ripping any of them up. I'm sure no it's the gold not golden as the golden
Goldfinch the golden finch is different as goldfinch Dave
So get your head out of your butt. Sorry everyone. Thank you Zoe and fantastic name if I may say sorry
Clip and oh it's a fantastic name. That is this the goldfinch., it's not even gold pin. You said the title.
I said the wrong title.
Fuck, fuck.
Sorry, Zoe.
Can I thank some people as well?
That'd be so good.
Thank you so much.
I would love to thank from Coleroy in New South Wales,
James Cox.
The Purple Panda.
Purple Panda.
Your favorite animal, the panda. I love them
Those one this week went viral
It went it's node in Washington DC where they got some of the national zoo and they absolutely loved it
Oh, and there's this vision like from the security cameras of the pandas of this wonder sliding down a hill on its back
And then it crawled to the top and just did it again
That's the kind of love I need in my day.
Oh, it was so beautiful, really.
That's the best.
So thank you, James.
James, the purple panda cocks.
I would also love to thank from Smithtown, New York, Peter J. Evans, Peter Evans.
I know, that's why it's put the J in there.
Yeah, you got it.
So I doubt that from Smithtown, New York years ago, no idea that we have a controversial chef
in Australia called Pete Evans, who's about quite a lot of
bullshit.
Yes.
I didn't realize we had a couple of scientists in there.
Should go today.
Yeah.
Your debunking that chef's science.
OK, here we go.
There it all now. But Peter J Evans, uh, uh, the beige bandicoot.
Oh, yeah, you saved with bandicoot,
because beige obviously, a very beige color.
Baaish, beige bandicoot.
Baaish bandicoot's great.
That's cute.
Yeah, it's cute, bandicoot.
Baaish bandicoot. Copyright there? Should we get T-shirts, mate? That's bandicoot as fuck. Yeah, it's cute. Bendy cute. Oh, Bendy cute. Bendy cute.
Copyright there.
Should we get T-shirts back?
That's Bendy cutest fuck.
Oh yeah.
That's good.
You could be that person.
I could be that person.
You could be that person who says stuff like that.
You said it's the Bendy, I mean, I wouldn't.
I don't think David.
You could be that person.
But I could be that person.
Yeah, for sure.
I'd be happy if you said that.
The Bendy cute is Bendy cutest fuck. Thank you, Peter. The beige bandacute is bandacute as fuck.
Thank you, Peter.
And I would finally love to thank
from Silver Spring MD.
Merrill and Merrill and Merrill.
I mean, that's already a color and a thing.
Silver Spring.
I'd love to thank Will Hancock.
The Silver Spring.
The Silver Spring.
I've heard that.
No, that's Will already where he lives.
He's at every day when it's something different the gold
What is on goal?
The bronze fountain
I
was thinking more like a spring oh
Sinky the bronze spring
bronze slinky the bronze spring key. I like that bronze spring
The bronze-sling key. The bronze-sbrinky.
I like that.
The bronze-sbrinky.
Put it in.
Ah, snorted.
Pretty good.
Sorry about that.
Did you enjoy that?
Dave, do you want to bring us home?
I would love to.
Thanks, Will Hancock.
The bronze-sbrinky.
Bronze-sbrinky.
I love it, thanks.
From a Hawthorne South Australia,
Kate Conroy.
Kate Conroy.
Okay, what about the chocolate?
Ooh.
The chocolate.
Uh, a train carriage.
Oh, that's cool.
The chocolate train carriage.
Chocolate train carriage.
So, sort of satisfying to say, chocolate train carriage.
Yeah, I like it.
I imagine Polaro for some reason. Yeah. Right in the chocolate train carriage. So it's sort of satisfying to say, chocolate train carriage. Yeah, I like it. I imagine Polaro for some reason,
riding the chocolate train carriage.
Polaro on the chocolate train carriage,
the mystery of the chocolate train carriage.
Thank you so much for your support, Kate Conroy,
the chocolate train carriage.
I'd like to thank now from Highland Heights, Ohio.
Oh, God's high.
Drew Fawzberg.
Drew Fawzberg. Drew Fawzberg.
On your Drew?
Name's today.
God damn.
Uh, Drew Fawzberg, the white.
Uh, uh, lizard.
The white lizard.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
Yeah, I love it.
Pfft, pfft, pfft.
Yeah.
That's my lizard sound. Wow, it. That's my lizard say.
Wow, it's a pretty good lizard impression.
Because they need to soak up the sun, right?
And what would help do that?
Was that reflected?
No, it reflects it.
Reflects it which means he has to work harder.
Yeah.
No, smarter.
But has all his friends hang around.
Yeah, there's a bunch of wild lizards.
They have a really nice time.
And they're just reflecting off each other. It's essentially just a big pool party. Yeah. there's a bunch of wireless. They haven't really nice time. And they just, it's all reflecting off each other.
It's essentially just a big pool party.
Yeah.
All year round for them.
Oh.
It's a good life, better wireless.
I love it.
I would like to thank now from Adelaide South Australia.
A fun person to thank is Grace Brooks.
Grace Brooks Orange.
Pinyada.
Orange Pinyada.
Oh, I love it. Orange, good color. Yeah. Yeah, Pinyada. Orange Pinyata. Orange, good color.
Yeah, Pinyata, fun thing.
Yes, everyone loves a Pinyata.
Yes.
You get to smash it, you get to eat lollies.
There was a Pinyata at the, neither of you attended,
which obviously heard everyone's feelings
at the Stupid Old Christmas party.
There was a Pinyata and Beckpatraitis, absolutely.
Oh, I think it was Beck, absolutely smashed the shit out of it.
Like, a few people did and it was pretty brutal.
It was confronting.
One of the things were you laughing and then everyone stops.
It's watching Beck, like, like, attack it off the rope.
And she was just using a fist to punch the shit in the back.
Now, it was just one hit.
She just hit it in the sweetest spot and and it exploded and flew to there. Amazing.
Oh, so good.
Yeah, good times.
Merry Christmas everyone.
It's nice to think back to that beautiful year, 2020.
I miss it.
Thanks, Grace Brooks, Orange Pinyata.
Yeah, well, that doesn't quite bring us into the episode.
I was meaning to mention on this episode I I
During the week I was doing a gig and beforehand someone came up to me and said hey you Matt Stewart
I said yeah, they're like I'm a do-go-on, uh, but all my head was like
Out of the game I was I was also with two like well-known comedians
So I all right, so I thought she was gonna say hey, I'm sorry, are you?
And said, yeah, so I'm like, oh, there's a bit confused.
And then we had a brief conversation.
I have a real bad feeling I was rude.
Anyway, if you're listening, I'm sorry.
And I hope you had a great night.
That's nice.
I'm sure you weren't rude.
Could you just, I've met you before.
Did you tell them to piss off, idiot?
Yeah, I did say piss off, idiot.
You're like, my hero did that to me.
I'm sorry.
You just, you become what you say.
And I saw Steve all tell me to piss off, idiot.
And you assume that you are her hero.
So.
She also asked me a son.
She didn't know what.
That'd be very funny.
No, at the time, his twin brother was my cricketing hero.
So I assume my brother was a hero.
Yeah, that works.
She's a big fan of the plumbing work of Tom.
Hi, sorry, are you Tom's two-hours brother?
Pits off.
Oh, that happened to me once.
Back when I was selling air conditioning,
I was on a site that I was working on a big job on.
And this guy apparently went up to my brother
who was doing the plumbing there
and we didn't either of us knew he said,
your brother doesn't happen to sell air conditioning,
does he?
Just thought in how we were.
He's like, I would never take that gamble to get,
you know what I say again an idiot when you go hey
You kind of look like this person. I know any chance like I'd never would bother asking that but
Anyway, very fun side track there. Um, so this is the part of the show just before we close out
We welcome some people into the tripped itch club very exclusive club
And you get involved in this if you have supported us on
the shout out level or above for three years, completing the tripped-itch. And there's a whole club
you're invited into. I'm on the dog at the Velvet Road. We've got the list. I'm going to read out
some names. As you come in, Dave will then hype you up, Jess then hypes up Dave because he needs
he needs it. Thank you. But Jess has also put together a little menu
that's some hors d'oeuvres and some cocktails.
Dave's booked a band.
What do we got?
What's on the menu?
Well, it's a bit of a double whammy.
Obviously, we're possible.
We like to theme it to this week's topic.
And this week, everything we have to eat a drink is red
and we'll make you baron.
Oh, okay.
Oh, my God. So probably, yeah, I guess depending on make you barren. Okay. Oh my god.
So probably, yeah, I guess depending on where you're at.
Yeah, in your life, maybe...
Maybe do or don't drink.
Yeah, I mean, we've still got everything from previous weeks
and just a normal sort of bar.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a pretty hectic menu, actually.
It's honestly too much, you know?
We should start rotating something off.
Yeah. Like that time you said water.
Was that me or was that Jackson?
Oh, I could have been Jackson.
We probably should keep water as an option.
Yeah, keep water.
Anyway, this week we've got bloody marries and vodka cranberry juice.
Yep.
And all of these will make you baron.
Well, I'm lacing them with stuff that makes you baron.
Oh, good. Yes, a bloody marion. I'm doing that them with stuff that makes you Baron, yes. I bloody
Baron. Because of the red Baron. What else am I supposed to do with Baron? Well I mean
you could just have the red drinks. Cold and red barons. I don't have to actually make
people Baron. Oh no yeah you're right. Is it too late if you already mixed them up?
No but I have bought a lot of drugs. So it would feel wasteful.
Yeah, right, okay.
I've done it on the company card though.
So if you're okay with me just flashing all of our money
down the toilet.
Yeah, I think so.
Sure, I think in this case, yes.
To not make all of our patrons barren.
Yeah, well just in case someone accidentally has one
and they're looking to have kids.
Okay.
Anyway, any food. Yeah, we've got a Maggarita pizza, lots of have kids. Okay. Anyway, any food?
Yeah, we've got Margaret A. Pizza,
lots of tomato-based things.
Oh, that's sick.
Soup.
And Dave, what the hell did you book?
You want to go and bar and have some soup?
Yeah, I mean, you don't have enough tea.
It's perfect.
Shut up, you're the one with the fuck disophagus.
You have some soup, so boy.
I love soup, so thank you.
Of course you do.
Thank you so much.
The band this week is Eurythmix.
Oh.
Who I've just read here, do you know this?
If this is correct, Eurythmix were formed
in Waga Waga Australia.
What?
That cannot be true.
That's not true.
Dave Stewart and Annie Lennonix.
It says Stewart and Lennonix were both previously
in the tourist, a band which broke up in 1980.
Eurythmix performed later that year in Woggle Woggle, Australia.
No kidding.
Can't tell you that's true or not, but still, is that a fun fact?
Is that from the Orge.
That's from the Orge.
Yeah.
When I used to fact check for a TV quiz show,
we weren't allowed to use Wikipedia as a reference,
but they said it's a really good starting point, um,
because they have to use references on there. So then you go back to their references, but they said it's a really good starting point because they have to use references
on there. So then you go back to their references. But I've got it here in Sydney Morning Harold saying
it's true. Yeah, trust them probably. All right, so let's bring some people in. First of all,
let's do this. I'd love to welcome in from Bristol and Great Britain.
It's Mr. Thomas Keywood.
Oh, the key word to this night going off is here.
I don't know where he was going to go with that one.
Thank you.
Only three tonight.
So the second of three from Lyndonhurst in New York York United States, Anthony Torres.
Torres to me straight.
Is this gonna be a great night?
Yes it is!
Torres like, tap.
Shut up and just say the third name. Shut the fuck up.
I wanna say it's all about momentum.
And finally from Athens in God's Country, Ohio, it's Graham Cosh.
Or Cok. Which one are we going with? Cosh. from Athens in God's country Ohio, it's Graham Kosh or Koch.
Which one are we going with?
Koch.
Koch.
Oh my gosh.
Okay, thank you so much.
Thank you.
Oh my gosh!
Thank you so much!
We're coming down.
I can't believe it Graham, pleasure.
Put my hand out.
So proper shake.
She probably didn't know that to do anymore,
but still, anything happens in this club. So welcome in Graham Anthony and Thomas, make
yourselves at home. Grab yourselves one of the cocktails which will not make you
paranoid. Yeah. Or that's been a bit precious about it. Just be safe and have one of the other Some of you So I don't know if I fully trust this
Well that brings us to the end of the episode
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Sundays 8.30pm, the European beer cafe. We can't wait to get back in front of a live crowd.
Yeah, but like we're recording this ahead of time and it's
there all shows are over half sold already. So there's only 13 tickets to the first show left at this stage.
Yes, so get involved if you can.
And yeah, you can find us on, where can you find us again, Jess?
You can find us at pissoffidiot.com.
Oh, we've got to buy that, man.
Sorry, no, you can find us at do go on pod on all the socials Facebook Twitter Instagram and do go on pod at gmail.com and do go on pod dot com
And you'll be pleased know that piss off idiot dot com is not currently taking
All right, let's do it. Steve war. It's I mean it's his catchphrase
Yeah, you really you can be selling sunglasses on this website
So thank you so much for listening guys, we'll be back next week with another episode,
but until then, I'll say thank you and goodbye.
Later.
Bye.
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