Two In The Think Tank - 281 - George Mallory and The 1924 Mount Everest Expedition

Episode Date: March 10, 2021

We all know that Tenzing Norgay and Edmund Hillary were the first to summit Mount Everest... Or were they? In 1924, thirty years earlier George Mallory and Andrew Irvine were seen close to the summit before disappearing, leading to one of the greatest mysteries of the 20th Century. But then, in 1999 - 75 years after the disappearance, some climbers found something BIG!Get tickets to our live shows this March/April:Prime Mates: https://www.trybooking.com/BPEUIBook Cheat: https://www.trybooking.com/BPEUEMatt Stewart - Nostalgia Was Better When I Was A Boy (discount code 'dogoon): https://www.comedyfestival.com.au/2021/shows/nostalgia-was-better-when-i-was-a-boyDo Go On: https://www.trybooking.com/BOMAA Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodMatt’s New Interview Show: ‘Matt Your Heroes’: https://youtu.be/VVsVGkzVNZQBuy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 12 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat:... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Please. Please. Please. Hello and welcome to another episode of Doogawon. My name is Dave Waniki and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. That's Matt. And I'm Matt. Well before we meet Matt, let me tell you that this show, well it's a history program, essentially. We take it and turns the report on a topic often suggested by a listener, and it is my turn this week to give the report you guys don't know what it's going to be about.

So we always start with a question, just to get us on to that pesky little topic. And I reckon you've got a good shot at this, both of you. Especially you, Jess. Why me? Is pesky little topic a clue, do you think? What's pesky Jack Russell's? Oh Jack Russell's

History of Jack Russell's. Oh Okay, my question is who were the first two men to summit Mount Everest? Oh Edmund Hillary Tensignor gay. Yes, that is correct Edmund Hillary and Tensignor gay. Oh, sorry. correct. Edmund Hillary and Tensignor game. Oh, sorry, runner up point for Matt there. Thank you.

Because Jess actually covered this five years ago on the 21st of March in March 2016, because they are the first two people, the history records. That's mean the first ones are called Man Everest. So Jess, like you said, Jess has done this topic already. I was gonna say, I thought we'd done this. Oh, were they?

Oh. Was it possibly George Mallory and Andrew Irvin? Oh. That's what this topic is. Wow. George Mallory and the 1924 Mount Everest expedition. I mean, obviously I remember, but refresh my, the people, the listeners.

Yes. Edmund Hillary. Is it New Zealand? I remember that. Yes. And he went to the summit in... 19, 17, 15, 3. As we all remember, really. Do you remember doing that report at all just?

Oh, yes, I do, yeah. It was at the old studio, yeah. Was it? Yeah, so a few years back. Why do I remember you got, what was it anyway? It was March, it was this month, five years ago, you get that report. Yeah, episode 21, if you wanna go check it out.

Holy shit. Pretty good excuse to not remember. Yeah, five years ago, I don't remember what I did five minutes ago. How did I get here? Help me. No. Okay, wow. Yeah, so let me introduce you to the main character in this story.

Jer, Jer. Jer, Jer. What's the name of this George? But I. Jer, I felt like he was misprousies name. Jer, Jer boy. George Herbert Lee Mallory. The name rings about George Mallory.

I wonder if, anyway, yes. Look, I will admit to you, I did not go back in the 60s or f, so there is a possibility that you mentioned him. Dave, it is International Women's Day at the time of recording. At the time of recording. And you have just admitted to me that you find my voice so great. No, I didn't want to hear a story of two men, the climbing amount and the international women's day.

On today of all days. Even told by a woman. I mean, that's not. It's one woman and two men. Yeah. Well, one of those men is a feminist who tends to ignore gay. No, me. I am a feminist.

I remember I'm the feminist of this podcast. That's why I stand up for women all the time Have you not been that's classic Dave not paying attention to us? Very disappointing yeah, and if I could just have a moment to Well, I think I know where you're going with this Jess and I like that Yes, I should be praise. Thank you so much. I'll accept this prize. Well, George Herbert Lee Mallory was born on June 1886

in Mobily. Mobily. Mobily. Mobily in Cheshire. Oh. Oh, one of those he flies. Mobily is so fun to say. Mobily.

Mobily. Cheshire be a great name for a Cheshire cat. Yeah, Mobily the cat. Mobily. Mobily.. It's actually a great name for a Cheshire cat. Yeah, Mubbly the cat. Mubbly. Mubbly. Mubbly. Who am I kidding? Cats don't come with a golden neck on it. Malorie came from a long line of clergymen, a priest in the like, and he had two sisters and a brother. If don't, did clergymen produce?

I mean, we ask the same thing, but in different ways. Yeah, apparently, was not reproduced. I'm talking about the first bit. Yeah. Do they produce what wrap records? Yeah. So you grew up with a two sisters and a brother and was raised in a 10 bedroom house.

What? Which bedroom to child ratio is ridiculous? My dad was the opposite. There were eight kids in a think two bedroom house. Two bedroom house. They should have moved to Mopoli. Yeah, they should have. When I was a kid, we were, we were a family six in a two bedroom house. Four kids in the one bedroom. Oh, bunk beds. Bunk beds. Hell yeah. Top of bottom. You got top of bottom. Top bunk. Come on. Look at me. Yes! Clive in that bougie lifestyle.

Yeah, that big time dog. Look like a bottom bunk. Absolutely not. Come on. I tell you about the time my brother and I fought the entire way to it. We were going away, I don't remember who we were going. Me tongue. Oh yeah, on the beach.

Yeah, we were going there and we argued the whole drive about who got the top bunkers and you there were bunk beds. And we're sprinting into the bedroom to like shock on the top bunk, run in there, two sets of bunk. Oh. Which is quite the musket top bunk. But are you really on a top bunk if you're not lauding it over someone on the bottom bunk?

That's a great point. I think I just like the adventure of climbing the ladder. Wee! Look at that go. You'd love to climb that Everest because there's a few ladders involved. I don't want to do that. No, that sounds like a bunch of... They are still trying to segue back to the top. Look at the go you love to climb that Everest because there's a few ladders involved. I don't want to do that So I've been deep in man Everest I watch like two or three documentaries on this oh damn and two or three I mean that's a small is your man. You should be out of camp right all right

It was too much. Oh that's not like many but it's still like six hours of your lot I mean like four hours of your life how many hours of your life is it really Dave? Cause you're changing that up a bit too. Oh right, what 17 documentaries? For 18,000 hours. Wow. Okay. Thank you for being honest, finally. And I watched it on top of a four-punk bit.

That's crazy Dave. That's crazy. That's crazy. Wow. Jerk, you are a living person. That's not the good. Not working back at George Judge

Don't be a long report guys and not because of the word count At the age of 13, church When a mathematics scholarship to Winchester College Yeah He's gonna bat That's day one That's Day 1 of him. Lala Luzo! That's the teacher.

Oh, why are you here? Scholarship. Nuh! Well, he was a student there. One of the teachers bullied him. No, recruited Mallory for an outing to the Alps and he developed a strong aptitude for climbing and he was a natural. A natural climber.

Natural climbing. From Britannica here, other climbers of the era noted his natural cat like climbing ability Oh His ability to find and conquer new and difficult roots. Oh, yeah, you could always find a route wait and conquer it Was he a cat? He was a cat judge judge the jessie cat. That's why he wasn't the first person to climb down Everest. He was a cat. Still impressive.

He just dropped a cat off at base camp. It said, go for it. Up you go. Up. There's a mountain line. Well, I said to the cat, I don't want you to go up there. Look at, it's like, well, fuck you. Wow, I've been there in five minutes.

After graduating from the University of Cambridge, he became a schoolmaster. Can you get even earlier? But he continued to refine his climbing skills in the Alps and in Wales. Inside of Wales. Yeah, I mean, they're quite big. Yeah, I guess you could use their ribcage as a ladder.

And yeah, you should do. PBS writes about him, he was a neat and bold rock climber and a competent ice climber, but his greatest assets were vivacity and the love of adventure. That's me. My ears are burning. Vivacity. You have vivacity. You have vivacity.

Matt vivacity. He would seize the moment. This is Matt again. And in courage, his fellow climbers to follow. If he had a weakness, it was the failure to recognize when he'd given enough, would that trait come back to bite him? I think it's going to.

Can you explain that again one more time? Is this like a classic sort of job? Yeah, I can't do much. I can't do much. Yeah, that's what they say. I don't know what to quit. I don't know what to quit. I just keep trying.

Honestly, it is. I don't know when to quit. But when you are on top of a deadly mountain, that's actually not the best at the bit. But when you're working, hey, hey, hey, that's just a pre-abacquian. Pre-abacquian. When you're in sales or something,

actually, no, still probably should quit. When you're like harassing someone at a house. Please buy this funeral package. Please. But to tie this back to everyone's favorite topic and make it technically part six in our series on World War One, Mallory married Ruth Turner just six days before England entered the war.

He then enlisted and served on the battlefield of the Somme in the First World War and rose to the rank of Lieutenant slash Lieutenant. Wow, that is wild. You were, you purposely went out and picked a topic that never ended with World War One. And then I'm like, well, here he is. And still in the war. You have far end to the research before you went, oh no. Oh, for fuck's sake. Because the famous bit doesn't mention that at all. So I'm better go back and, you know, looking to his childhood,

then he's young, he's formative. He's not fucking hell, of course he's in the war. You pick any sort of English band from this era. They're gonna be there. Yeah of English ban from this era. They're gonna be there. Yeah, English, French, German. They like have like, what did I say? 80% for some of those countries.

Crazy. 18 or 49 or something. I definitely remember what you said in those reports. Yeah. Me too. I remember everything, so. A year and a half three children together in 1915, 1917 and 1920. Oh, come on!

Sorry, which makes me think he was coming home from the battlefield, hanging out for a couple of days. Yeah. Going back. No, I'm just up to this, 15, 17, it should be 19, you know, two years apart. Right. That's what bothered me. Yeah, because 15 and 20 felt good.

Yeah. Should have gone 50. Well, unless it was halfway through, 1917, that's beautiful, every two and a half years. Oh, beautiful. Leo, let's say it is. Oh, that's nice. To the day. Every two and a half years, ever, kid, that's lovely.

And three is a good amount of kids, not too many. Well, they're still going, actually, every two and a half years since that day. Oh, really? I thought he doesn't know when to quit. Oh, what a brood. Good. Oh, my word.

That's a lot of children, a lot of mouths to feed. Well, after the war, which if you want to hear more about Matt just did a two-part series explaining the entire thing, the Mount Everest Committee was set up to coordinate and conduct the British reconnaissance of Mount Everest. And in 1921, George Lee Mallory, our main man, George, was chosen as one of the key members of this recon team. How old was he by this time?

He was born in 1889, did you say? Did I say he was born 1886? 86. So, and this is in 1930. 21. 21, so he's 35 mid-30s. I'm a bit over the hill, if you ask me. Yeah.

Get to that age. Yeah. Call it a day mate. Does not know when to quit. What you do? Should be rhetoric. Kick your feet up mate. You're gonna die in here.

You're gonna die in here. What are you doing? Especially back then. Yeah. You're on death storm mate. What do you find he do? A girl up a mountain you goose. What are you up to?

Well I didn't know how high it was. What do you like? He's like a hill, and he's like, I can't fit. This hill keeps going. This is nuts. I had an invented eye, so I could see that. Oh, yeah.

They called a hill Everest. It's a stupid name, but they really stuck with it. So the committee's job was to explore how it might be possible to get to the vicinity of Mount Everest to note possible routes for ascending the mountain and if possible, make the first ascend of of the as yet unclimbed highest mountain in the world. And really it was all just a bit of a pissing contest.

At the beginning of the 20th century, the British participated in contest to be the first to reach the North and South poles, but missed both of those. A desire to restore national prestige led to scrutiny and discussion of the possibility of conquering what they called the third pole, making the first percent of the high. It's not a pass. That's not a call, my dick.

The highest mountain on earth. A lot of that, they're like, all right, so you got to the North Pole, and you got to the South Pole. Well, we're gonna get to the other pole. And honestly, it's the more important one. Yeah, this is way bigger. And it's much harder, so it's even more impressive.

It's real thick as well, actually, it's quite a chunky pole. It's not even like a pole, it's like it's literally a mountain. Yeah, so. But anyway, very cute, we managed to that little cute little pole. Yeah. And walked to a pole.

Oh, was that mid-term one there? A little bit hard was it? Walked like horizontally to a pole. Oh, I was on mid-term one there. A little bit hard one there. Walked, but horizontally to a pole. Whatever, I'm climbing bitch. I'm climbing. Say bitch. I'm hitting the vert bitch. That's a t-shirt.

But where was Matt Everest at during the early 20th century? I think it was probably still in the same spot. It is right now. Does it move? Well, I don't think Dave would bring it up if that was the case. You're right. He's about to tell us something pretty.

Well, back then, Mount Everest was on the border of Nepal and Tibet, an autonomous region of China. The China Nepal border actually runs across its summit point. So whilst at the type you can simultaneously be at the highest point on Earth and in two countries. Oh, that's sick. Which is kind of fun. Why didn't I know that? Just probably did set it five years ago, but... I just don't feel like something I would have added to that. Geography, no thanks. That's why I didn't know that.

Yeah, that's awesome. The Napali name for the for Everest is Saga Martha, which means the head in the great blue sky. But the Tibetan name for Everest is Saga Martha, which means the head in the great blue sky, but the Tibetan name for Everest is Kwama Lungma, which literally translates as a holy mother. But so in the 1850s, the bridge started measuring stuff. I wanted to know the heights of all the tourists. I'm going to put the dicks. Yeah. I wanted them at Dick's bigger than that mountain. And the one way to find out, get the time. I just sound like they were bored.

Yeah, so measuring stuff. Like watching paint drive. That's measures and stuff. Well, they wanted to know all the heights of all the tallest mountains in the world, led by Andrew Scott War, who was surveyor general of India. That's his title.

That's a cool title. Ever since the time was known to the Brits as peak 15. They're just sort of given them all different numbers. To quote from wikipedia.org, not sure if you've been on this website. Big fan. Yeah, love it. In 1840 on, the British survey wanted to preserve

local names if possible. Like the ones I said earlier. So like the British. An Andrew War, the British surveyor General of India, argued that he could not find any commonly used local name as his search for a local name was hand-poured by Napoleon and to bet exclusion of foreigners. Well, argued that because there were many local names, it would be difficult to favor one over all the others, which I guess

because they have, you know, they both have different names for it. You didn't want a favour one side or the other. It kind of makes sense, but then also. So he decided that, that peak 15, this makes less sense, should be named after a British surveyor, Sir George Everest. Okay. So what did George have to do with? He was a tiebreaker.

Fuck it, so you call it Koma Lunga, okay. We're going to call it Everest. That's nuts. And Sergio would actually oppose the naming. He did not want it to be named after him. Oh my God, I'd take it. A very more... Oh, no, Perkin!

Locally, he was thinking a local name. To make matters worse, how we all say Everest is actually not how he said his name or how I said it in... Ever-A. It was Everest. Oh. It's what he said. Ever-Rist. Ever-Rist. Ever-Rist. Ever-R here. Ever-A. It was ever-rist. Oh. It's what he said.

Ever-rist. Ever-rist. Ever-rist. Ever-rist. So it's slightly different. I mean, it's much, much, isn't it? I think mine was better with ever-a. Ever-a.

That's what it should be called. It sounds like a bottled water. Well, they could be called it. Parsis and ever-a. Would you want a bit parched? Yeah. Well, I can eye off you and ever-a. And then on the cover, it can like, you can have the mountain and your

Assume is like melted glaciers or something. Exactly, but it's not. It's just from my tap. Yes, it's just tap water. Just tap water. And I'm making a neat little profit. Well done. I am a water tycoon.

Jess, you are going to love this next bit. Or hate it. Okay. Everest or pick with me, it's exciting. Everest or peak 15 was measured in 1856 to have a height of 29,000 feet. But they declared it to be 29,000 and two feet. Fuck you! Because they were worried.

They were worried. If they announced it's exact height to be 29,000 feet, everyone would assume that it was just an estimate. Yeah. So they added two more feet to make it sound more accurate. That makes sense. That rings about. That is also very unscientific at the same time.

Because of this the aforementioned Andrew Scott war is sometimes playfully credited with being quote the first person to put two feet on top of Mount Everest. Oh my gosh. Shut up. That's good stuff. Yuck. In meters, that's 8,839 meters. But they rounded it.

You said sometimes he's attributed to who's attributing. Yeah, is it you? Is that your line? I don't know. I wish I had that line. That is a good line. No, it's not. That is a good line. That is a good line. That's like Oscar Wilde or something. He's like, oh, I guess he's the first man to

put an Irish accent out of two fiddles of man Everest. Good stuff. The actual height of the mountain has been disputed by Napoleon China, the two countries that share the mountain. On December the 8th, 2020, only a few months ago, it was jointly announced by the two countries that the new official height is 8,848.86 meters or 29,032 feet. Okay. So it's gained another 30 feet. Yeah, now that's 32 feet. There's now an agreement.

Okay. And I believe at the time they were measuring it because they'd been on Earthquake and they were wondering if it had gotten smaller. Oh. But you know, a couple of things. Yeah. Wow. But you got to know how tall the tallest one is. You got to know.

Demand changed a heart much. Yeah, I mean, this size being activity, you can bring it down a little bit. Well, of course, size being activity. That comes into play, then obviously that'll affect things. There's also, there's a part up the top there called the Hillary step, named after Edmund Hillary, that you used to have to try and get over. That's a dance movie, you see. As he was climbing.

That's why he was so good. He was crazy. Tango the whole way up. Fox shot it down. Because of an earthquake, it's no longer there. It used to be this really hard bit to go up. It was like a sheer rock face. He had to climb at the right up the top,

but it's no longer there because of an earthquake. Ah There you go. So there we go. But how about climbing the damn thing? Well the Brits were keen to give it a crack and I put together the aforementioned 1921 reconnaissance mission The primary objective was mapping and recon and to discover whether a route to the summit could be found from the north side of the mountain. Mallory was a, is our guy? Shush. Shush Mallory. Was a junior climber on the mission, but when the two experienced climbers Harold Rayburn and Alexander Kellis took ill in Rayburn's case and died suddenly in Kellis case. Yeah, that's a joke. Mallorie assumed responsibility for most of the expedition

to the north and east of the mountain. It should be noted that they were, as many of these missions are, able assisted by a large team of local people, Sherpas is one of the Tibetan ethnic groups. Sherpas originally meant people from the east and is actually pronounced Shahwah by the Sherpas' people themselves,

which I did not know. But the term Sherpa in English, in its most recent sense, refers to a variety of ethnic groups in the region, herve exhibit, excellent mountaineering and trekking skills which are now used almost coiloqually. Yeah, right, okay. So any local portals, I think they're sometimes referred to,

well, can be referred to as a Sherpa. Right, cool, I didn't know that, I guess we were kind of butchering it. Shawar. Shawar. And I couldn't even be butchering my fanatic pronunciation. But. Hey, you're trying.

Yeah, SHAR-W-I-A-Shawar. Shawar. Shawar. Hmm. Yeah, and also they've done genetic tests on people that live in that region and because they've lived there for thousands of years and their ancestors, they actually are better at living in that high climate than other people like they can get more oxygen out of higher

altitude and stuff like that. They've lived that high for generation. How interesting is that? They've kind of evolved. It's fascinating how that I don't know amazing in you know in the space of a few generations things like that can I mean that's obviously over a lot of generations but I just mean that things change It's crazy that's awesome. Yeah, it definitely takes more than a few generations because my skin tone has not quite

The climate is also Australia. Yeah, it's part of being ancestors here for No, I love burning easily. So George Mallorraine is crew set off to recon Mount Everest. Sorry, who? Andy's crew? Josh. Ah.

Mallory. I thought it was this new guy. The set off to recon Mount Everest. And when he did so, he wrote to his wife, we are about to walk off the map. Oh, that's a cool line. It's a cool line. He's got a few of these in his diary, I'll read that.

Better than Pesner Putu, feel the top of the f***, that's dark. That is. That was written by a guy who's never climbed a mat. Yeah. You know what I mean? This guy's a panzer pusher for sure. So, are you talking to me again? No, mate, sure. Yes. Are you talking to me again? No mate, no.

Yes. The 1921 trek was successful in its objectives. The expedition produced the first accurate maps of the region around the mountain. And they explored in depth several approaches to the peak. By climbing up the north saddle of the north ridge, which in itself is still high, it's 23,000 feet or 7,000 meters. They spotted a route to the summit via the northeast ridge over an obstacle, now known as the second step. Like that

Mallory, I think I was talking about before, now there's two sections up the top, called the first step and the second step, which is two sections that you've got to climb over to get to the top. Both quite dangerous. So discovered a route and the next year in 1922, they decided to have a real crack at making it to the peak. They had to go without bottled oxygen, which at the time was seen as going against the spirit of mountaineering. Oh. Survival. Yeah, they're going against it. I mean, what's the point if you take oxygen? Breathing, me. So, these days, people will do that.? Breathing, me. So these days people will do that?

Yes. Yeah, absolutely. Is there ever still do without it? There are people who have made it up and back. And it's like a record in itself, if you can make it to the top of other very tall mountains without oxygen. People have also died trying. Right.

And as we'll talk about. It seems a bit silly to think you can go without oxygen. But at this time, I mean no human being had ever been this high before. So they were- He was- Including locals, yeah. Well that history has recorded. Right.

Yeah, because it is, so as I'll talk about up there, it's referred to as the death zone. Ah, okay. Because like you were saying, it would make sense that some of the shower people because they've evolved the lungs for fit for purpose. But even then, even those people are not considered to have ever made it to the top. Right. At this point anyway. So they are going, it is going to the unknown.

I have read some people refer to it like mountaineering there as they're like, these people, it's just like when they went to the moon, like they're going to this completely new place. Right. So they just caught a rocket ship up there. Pretty sure they did take oxygen to the moon though. Yeah, at first they were like, this goes against the spirit.

Of the mooning. Of the mooning. Of the mooning. I, at first they were like, this goes against the spirit. Of the mooning. Of the mooning. It's mooning and earring. I like to move with that, it looks just. Yeah, that's just me. You know what I'm saying, I'm like a suit. I have to wear a suit. Come on, that's the one.

I'm not doing it. I'm like a board shorts kind of guy. Oh, it looks so much more bad. I'll see if I'm out there. Board shorts flip flops, no shit. Yeah, that's a little hangout. So Mallory and Howard Somerville and Edward Norton. What?

Edward Norton is the grandfather of the actor. Ormert's reached the crest of the northeast ridge on this attempt. Despite being hampered and slowed by the thin air, they achieved a record altitude of 26,980 feet or 8,225 meters. This is without oxygen, before weather conditions forced them to turn around in the afternoon. A second attempt a few days later ended disastrously when his party was caught in avalanche that ended up killing seven of the porters. They were having a party. Huh?

That was the problem, the problem. Play music, you know, too much bass in the tune. Oh, causing the avalanche. I probably playing some DMX or something. Yep. Silly. Silly. A second party led by Australian chemist, George Finch.

Just a jury is prick up there when I mention that there's an Australian. Oh, I love chemists. George Finch, Jess did you ever prick up there when I mentioned that there's an Australian name? Oh, I love chemists. George Finch and Jeffrey Bruce, another Australian sounding name. Jeff Bruce. Jeff Bruce. Jeff Bruce. Jeff Bruce.

Jeff Bruce. Jeff Bruce. Jeff Bruce. Oh, Jeff Bruce is the sort I'm going to climb this mountain. I'm Bruce Jeff. You can fuck off that bottle of oxygen. I got a bottle of VB right here. I'm not gonna down off I go.

A total of. I wish I brought more than one bottle. Alright, alright, come on, skip. He's got his cake right with him obviously. You want me to go to the top? Alright, skip. So remind you after that. Let's go.

He's also going to kelp you with him. Bluey. Bluey and skip him obviously. So, Lydia doesn't go anywhere with that bluey and skip. He's wearing a cool hat. He's also got a yut with him. He drives to the small yutro. I never go anywhere with that my holding.

Hahaha. Bruce, I don't think you're going to be able to drive this to the point mate. I've got a fucking V. I don't All right, you know that one massive don't gonna do under the hood piss off piss off it Pills among wall Stay for sorry don't attempt the wrong one Steve walked, so I don't know if time is the wrong one more brother. Peace, though.

Peace, I'll video get some of the cards. Just drive me up. Man, never is. One hand on the dash. Listen to Akadakka. Akadakka. That was a nice drive. This one's for Bond.

Akadakka. That's driving to the top, now, never is. Driving to the top, now, never is. Getting to the top and then reversing all the way back down. Am I doing back there? I've got my troop. How? How it hurts? So there's an Australian called George Finch and a non-Australian called Geoffrey Bruce.

Wasted name. They reached a record elevation of 27,300 feet, 8,300 meters, using bottled oxygen, both for climbing and as a first for sleeping. Oh. That would use it as a pillow. Okay. That's right. Before that. Better than nothing. Yeah, good neck support. I look into these two men and Jeffrey Bruce, it said that before this expedition, he'd never climbed a mountain. Wow. And now because he's cousin,

another Bruce was the leader of the expedition, he'd been invited and now he'd climbed higher than anyone in human history. Amazing. I don't know. Oh, I thought, yeah, people tell me this is hard. I'll just add a cracker and a broke all the records. Yeah, it's not that hard.

I actually hate people who do that. Oh, I haven't trained for this marathon, but yeah, I'll give it a crack. Oh, there we go. And they do really well and you're like, you know what, fuck you. I try hard at living and I'm fucking it up all the time. How do you know?

And then all these other people come, babies. Just do it, this, don't it. First day, live right through it. And fucking little dogs. I think you're the most tiny little dog. You think it a puppy's? I'm thinkin' a puppy, sorry through it and fucking little dogs I'm trying little dog you think it a puppies. I'm doing a puppy. Sorry. Yeah, those little dogs same deal Just getting born and then living and then they're just even dogs can do it just walking. Yeah, they walk straight I did I yeah, yeah, I crawl for like horses. Whoa. Yeah, no, it's crazy. It's honestly great. Born standing up just like Whoa, yeah, no, it's crazy. It's honestly crazy. Born standing up. Just like station.

And as to the other guy Aussie George Finch, this is a bit from his bio. Finch was first married to Alicia Betty Fisher from London. But the time he returned from the front, so he was also at the wall. Sorry, Matt. In 1910, I get a new territory here. Do you know this guy? Probably normal. Matt in 1910 get a new territory here. Do you know this guy? He probably normal. Red or animal? Red or let's go. In 1917 he came back to find that his wife had given birth to a son from a relationship with another man, went worth jock Campbell, an Indian army officer. That boy was the future Oscar-winning film actor Peter Finch, who's an Aussie. George separated the infant from his mother and had his relatives raised him as his own son, even though he was not the biological father. Peter did not see his parents again until he returned to Britain and found fame in his 30s. He won an Oscar

for the film network after he died in 1976, so along with Heath Ledger and another Aussie, he's the only actor to win an Oscar posthumously. Huh. And that little rabbit hole is why I love researching these things. Yeah. That's interesting. Oh, I find who this guy is. Oh, he came back from the war and took his wife's baby. Yeah, why?

Where did he took his wife's baby? He took the baby. He forced the wife and said, I'm taking this baby. And then they raised him and then he, you know, and then I'm like, oh, I know that guy because he's like the first Aussie Actor to win I'm guessing the mum was cool with him taking the baby fair. Yeah, very stupid I don't they didn't know he did not see his parents again till he went to Britain

He's the wait the parents didn't know that he did a fenced the actor right Just a little a little side story there little side cell. Yeah, that's a baffling story. I've heard of PD Finch. Mm-hmm. And yeah, I guess that's why. Good one for pub trivia, that one. Good on you, Peter Finch. But I just want to quickly talk about the death zone

that I talked about before. Yeah. I said that on the second everest expedition at first, they didn't use oxygen, but then they decided to use it. And that really was a game changer. These days any height above 8,000 meters or 26,000 feet is commonly referred to as the death zone. How way to the death zone? Dent, down.

There's only 14 peaks on Earth that reach this height, and they're all in the Himalayas and Caracaram regions in Asia. They're all sort of around this part of the world, only 14. In the death zone, oxygen is so limited that the body's cells start to die. Whoa. Climbers, judgment becomes impaired, and they can experience heart attacks, strokes, get fluid in their lungs,

brain swelling, and severe altitude sickness. I think you struggle to eat and swallow and you, you can't sleep, and your body just starts to break down. Sometimes people lose the ability to make rational thoughts, which when you're in a deadly environment is not a good combination. Yeah. Basically, human beings aren't meant to be up there. That's fair. One man is supposed to be up there birds Plains Consuberman go up there. Consuberman on the flash I feel a set probably the Superman outrun flash. Oh, yeah sure

One mountaineer says it feels like running on a treadmill and breathing through a straw. I mean, just getting to the treadmill feels a bit like that sometimes. So yeah, I get it. I'm an athlete. That's what I'm saying. Should I climb mountain? I think you should. I do love to climb, but more like monkey bars kind of thing, you know?

Yeah. I love to climb. I love to climb. I do. I love to climb. I do. I love it. When the amount of oxygen in your blood falls below a certain level, your heart rate soles up to 140 beats per minute, which increases your risk of heart attack. And then you add, you know, strenuous exercise up there.

And it is, it's hard. And the longer you spend up there, the more danger you're in. These days, people try and minimise how many hours you're actually exposed to it. Bottle oxygen means you can stay up there longer and climb at least twice as fast. So it's crazy to think that Mallory and the gang got so far without oxygen on that second trip at all. Yeah. Sadly, that second trip was not successful. They reached a record of 8,325 meters, but had to return because of faulty equipment.

But Mallory decided to go for a third attempt in 1924, a culmination of his efforts in the last two expeditions. But this time he was 37 years old and he knew his window was running out. Imagine being 37, and not just curling up into a ball waiting for death. Imagine that. Crazy. Just bonkers.

Don't you reckon? Yeah. I mean, I remember being that age. Many, many moons ago. Yeah. I've had a second win since, but, um, do you get a second win at a, at a hundred and thirty seven? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Sort of flips the other way. It does, yeah. I've had third, fourth and fifth wins too. Yeah. And they've all been great. And now I feel as young as ever. I feel like a 30-year-old. Wow, he feels that young.

Yeah, because that is young. That is, that is. That on the record. Pretty young. That's like, that's a established one. That's a baby. Oh my god, you have your whole life ahead of you. 30, right?

Everything that's been up to this point, and who cares, just don't worry about the right. If you haven't achieved anything, and who cares? You're right about it. You got so much time. Yeah, right, you got like 70 more years, right? A little baby. Yeah, sure, right.

Well, I know more than that, but yeah. Thank God. But for him, he was, do a diaphim allery is in his opinion. And he was less certain about returning this time. And it's about this time that he gave you some most famous quote. He was asked the question, why get a get a dog up here. Beautiful. That was one of his. Yeah. That's saying we always use. And that was actually for me, that's beautiful. Get a dog up here.

Get a dog up here. What does that mean? Well, it means when a man loves a dog very much. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that dog up here. I never really thought about it. Anyway, sorry. What was his other famous quote?

His second most famous quote, he was asked, why did you want to climb Mount Everest? And he retorted. Why the fuck not? He said, because it's there. Oh, okay. And that this has been called the most famous three words in mountaineering. Because it's there because it's there and that really sums up the attitude of many people. That's kind of my attitude towards

cake in the fridge. Why did you eat it? Why did you want that fourth piece of cake? It was there. What am I gonna do? Leave it there? Am I gonna climb that with my teeth? I'm gonna climb it with my teeth. That's what I'm gonna bloody do. Are you giggly and get a dog up here?

Yeah. Is that even a saying? Yeah. Apparently, according to OutbackDictionary.com, it says, common way of saying go fuck yourself. Also can be used as a friendly term of endearment. dictionary.com says common way of saying go fuck yourself. Also can be used as a friendly term of endearment. It has many meanings,

and depending on the way it is said, could almost mean anything. Beautiful. These are really in language. But it's funny, because another urban dictionary says it means have an alcoholic beverage. Huh.

I reckon we've looked this up before. Have we? And a strong question derived from hair of the dog that beat you. That is really ringing a bell here. Yeah, that makes sense. Hair of the dog get a dog up your life. Yeah. So that's beer of the day, maybe.

Yeah. Drinking at 9 a.m. A very cool thing to do. That's a way they go like, I feel really rotten from drinking so much. I'll just keep doing it. Well, Jess, I don't know when, none of us do that. No.

I don't know why you're... I know, I'm saying that about this. Do people do that? I believe. Disappointing. I know. Yuck. Yuck.

I'm really a white kid, no, I don't know. No, I don't know. But Dave, if I can interrupt you for a moment to ask a question. All right, hands on buzzers. When you use the bathroom, you always close the door behind you, right? Eh, no.

Eh, yes. Okay, I'm gonna take your first hand, which is no. Don't, mate. When you use the bathroom, you always close the door behind you, right? Close and lock. Okay, very private man.

Because you don't want random passabies looking in on you. No. Or even people in your own home. That's the honest, that's passabies, it's me. Yeah, Dave's always doing that. Can I come? Can I come too? So if you always close the bathroom door,

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the GI Bill. Now is the time mycomputercareer.edu. Well, let me tell you about this third expedition. It took place in 1926 and was headed by the same leaders the 1922 expedition, General Charles G. Bruce, another Bruce. What? Was that it? That was his... Yeah, he was the one that hired his cousin, who'd never climbed him out in the then his cousin broke a record. There was also a main man, George Mallory, how was Somerville, Edward Norton, notice Teddy, and Jeffrey Bruce, the cousin that had broken the record the last time.

So he did so well that I was like, well get your cousin back. And he still didn't do it. He's only ever climbed one mountain and he did it real good, so get him in. He's one from one. Yeah. Because of the devastation of the ever-present World War I, there were a whole lot of generation, a whole generation of young men had been wiped out. There weren't many younger men going around

to join these expeditions, so they kept using the same sort of men in their late 30s. Right. But they did choose one young man, almost as an experiment to see how he would handle the conditions, and that lucky man was 22-year-old Andrew Sandy Irvin. According to national geographic, unlike more seasoned members of the British team,

Irvin had limited climbing experience, having scaled modest peaks in Norway, Wales, and in the Alps far from the giants of the Himalayah. Oh. I mean, Amy said that they got Bruce last time and he had never climbed him out at all. So. He still hasn't even drove up in the queue.

You want to think from up there? From the top. Sorry the shop. There's a bottle of there isn't it? There's a camel at least He was a back of Benson hedges Urban was a very handy young man, but I love this Mallory later wrote home to his wife Because he kept a diary every day that urban quote could be relied on for anything except perhaps conversation. Ah. Shots fired there.

What a burn. Just a bit of a dull conversation. Yeah, he's just boring. How we didn't associate with all these old men that he was hanging out with? Yeah, I was young and cool. You're when you're young and cool and you're hanging out with older people and you're like I can't connect to you but all. Oh yeah.

Five years of this. That's what I get out of this old timer. Sometimes he says stuff and I'm like, what's he talking about? What are you talking about? Do you even know what a tamagotchi is? I really enjoy it. I love listening to the wisdom of people older than me. He's older than you, trees.

You whispering to trees. Tell me, tell me about yourself. Let me learn from your leaf. That turtles, it's really old turtles. No, no, I'm older than all of them. So it's trees. It's mainly trees. Trasin coral reefs.

Coral reefs? Yes. There's some coral reefs. Some ancient ruins. Yeah, there's some mortals out there. There are not. There are. So you stop it.

Zeus. Oh yeah, you have a chat to Zeus there? Yeah, I feel the Greek gods. You like to learn from your elders, like Zeus. Zeus, he's been around a bit. I was like, how do you say it? Do it again. Zeus.

That is fun, beautiful. That was really beautiful. Just saying his name. it? Do it again. Zeus. That is fun. Beautiful. That was a little bit of fun. Just saying his name. I know, but it's easy. That's how he says it. It's better than how I say it somehow. And that's rare. Most of the time, if it was a competition,

Tony and I may say something like that. Oh, you're an official, you're like an official professional broadcaster. Yeah. That makes sense. Yeah. Erwin was the youngest member of the crew, but he'd won the respective his team as improved his usefulness but completely redesigning their new fangled oxygen gear.

I gifted engineer and tinkerer. He had taken the oxygen sets apart and put them back together, making them lighter, less cumbersome, and less prone to breaking. Awesome. Having said that, by today's standards, the tanks were pretty primitive. The same size tanks in the 21st century could hold twice as much oxygen.

Wow. So just they now we just really pack in the oxen. Yeah, that's right. We worked that way. There's cram it in there. It's like vacuum seal of oxygen. Yeah, you can act a vacuum up to it and put in reverse There's little bags when you put it in the back

I mean, they're pretty I've never used one the way we were You go on a holiday and you get over there and tell the everything's in a vacuum So bad Oh, where? He got a Michael library, but he's so good Because he can't take the vacuum. You're gonna be fine.

You can't take it back. I'm going to... You try it, I can't. I'm going to try it back. Thank you. Oh, I'm definitely going to get the vacuum in like this. I'm just keeping... But I'm taking pictures with the vacuum.

Alright, let me just check, alright? Yeah, it's a Wixworth of underpants, beauticians vacuum cleaner. Why is that so funny? Is that funny or am I tired? That's funny. That's funny. That all the space saved by using the vacuum cleaner is taken up by the vacuum cleaner. I mean, obviously, if you're taking all those those clothes over you're going to wear them at some point right? How do you get them back in?

You're going to take a vacuum cleaner. Oh, hello, my tummy. I'm going to have a time out for a bit. They probably have different nozzles and different regions. Oh my god, the European nozzles. How do you know if you're saying... Like it's very pronger or something probably. If you're saying it at a hotel, how are you going to know they're going to have the right

vacuum cleaner? The right nozzle. Do you have Wi-Fi, a business centre, a vacuum cleaner, Australian nozzle vacuum cleaner? That was fun. You got a vacuum adapter. Yeah. Do you have a noceania adapter? Do you have one of them? For the vacuum. Sorry, not for the power.

It's also the same one using Argentina, I believe. So their oxygen tanks were pretty primitive. So was their clothing? Advanced fabrics and materials make much of today's high-altitude gear, stronger, warmer, lighter, and more reliable than the technology and clothing available to Mallory and Irvin in 924. But their gear, heavily influenced by Apollo explorers, was cutting edge at the time.

On the top half of their bodies, they wore six layers, made up of natural materials like wool, silk and flannel. Basically, they look like they're walking around in tweed suits up there. That's a strong look. I love that very much. These days, climbers were modern, breathable synthetic materials, which dramatically improved wind and water proofing. You were like a full duck down suit. You'd be cozy. You'd be like walking around in a dune. Hmm. Well they also didn't have crampons back in. Snaggy. They didn't have crampons. We love crampons here. They're sort of ice for that term of boots or things to put over your boots, but they had leather shoes and used ice access

to cut into ice and steady themselves. Leather shoes. Yeah, with a little grip on the bottom, but it's not like today. Yeah, wow. They also didn't have harnesses that are employed today, but rather tied ropes around themselves that they attach to the others.

This meant that if someone fell, they could hope to be supported, but the rope would dig into the chest of the person supporting the fallen. These days harnesses evenly distribute weight and are much safer. Also, modern ropes can hold twice as much weight. So back then, you really like, if you fall over, I hope I can hold you up. It's even, yeah, it makes it so much more impressive that they've gotten as high as they have with very little equipment. I mean, it's like, it's in, and in same task

to undertake now with all the technology and improvements that they have. Oh, yeah, like for now you have GPS things and emergency beacons and all sorts of like safety material. It's still incredible dangerous, but back then there's none of that. Nothing, enough of that. There are in suits and leather boots.

Yeah. Super leather boot. What did you think of that? I just looked at a map for a bit about how? I mean, it was a proof of what I was talking about. Pad on the back box. Please praise me, it was that. That's a very sad.

That's a very good debut album title. Yeah. Just Perkins suits leather boots. And leather boots. That's good. I was that. So it looks like a debut album title. Yeah. Just Perkins suits. And leather boots. That's good. I like that. Thank you. Also, as well as the vacuum in the suitcase, they also had an entire giant film camera

operated by John BL Null to document the trek. And there's actually footage that exists that you can watch online. They made a, they released a documentary about it in the 20s. All up they had a shitload of supplies probably carried by 60 porters. Oh That assisted them And the idea would be they'd set up a camp and the porters would help carry all the stuff up and then a couple of them would go up higher And have a crack and then come back down to the main camp right okay just on there on their own. Yeah

One important item that Mallory carried with him was a photograph of his wife Ruth. Oh my God, he is so whipped. He's going on this incredibly dangerous journey, don't get to what picture of the Mrs. For a while. Yeah, he probably loves her. Oh, oh, oh, that's quite nice. New concept? Yeah, what's that? Love. Show me love. What is love?

He carried the photo in his vest pocket and told her that if he made it to the peak of Everest, he would leave it there as proof. He'd be like, technically you did it, babe. Babe, this one's for you. We did it together, babe. Babe, you dropped the photo and it's just blown over the side. I should have thought of that. Should have brought some blue tape.

Should have got a magnet. Just to follow the misso boys. Do I know what? I love my wife. Get over it. Have you noticed that guys are saying wifey more now? It's such a weird change from missus or misso. Fucking hate misses. Hate misses. I feel like a hate wifey even more. Yeah, wifey's not good.

Just say wife. The wifey. Yeah. Because it's so rarely said in a positive way. It's always like I've got a blogger check with the misso, you know? Yuck. Just say a name. She has a fucking name.

I mean, we all know her name. But just like, okay. She's standing right there. You have to do the first time. People who've never met your wife. You say my wife, Lauren, whatever her name. But just like, okay. She's standing right there. People you have to do the first time, people who never met your wife. You say, my wife, Lauren, whatever her name is. Your wife's Lauren. Yeah, Lauren, you've met her. And then you just use her name from then on

because they know who the fuck you're talking about. All right, what if my wife's name is Miso? Okay. Very confusing. So are these confusing. My wifey, Miso. From that point, I can transition to Miso. So, these confusing. My wifey, miso. From that point, I can translate this to miso. Nicknamed the soup.

But you're not gonna call her my miso if that's her name. No. There you go. Great, that's the difference. I tell you no. That's a capital M. Miso and I the other day were walking the dog. Yeah, the miso.

Yeah, see this is the difference. Yuck. The miso. The miso. Hey, look, I think it's all in good fun. Iuck. The miso. The miso. Ah, alright, hey look, I think it's all in good fun. I think it is. I think it's stupid.

I think it's stupid, but what I'm gonna do. Should I say boy fee? What is the, what are the ladies say? Hus bow. Hubby. Not a fan of husband. Hubby, yeah, I want that. Hubby and wifey, that's probably the equivalent.

What's the equivalent of a miso? I don't know. Hubby. I don't know. Hubbo. I don't think women do it. The old man. The old man. Because the old man's your dad. Right.

But I, and ball and chain is only women as well. I don't think women do it. I think we just say husband or boyfriend or partner. Sack of shit. Sack of shit. The three-loader. The old suck of shit. Yeah. That dipstick I live with. That's, you might not say a condescending thing, but the way you raise your eyebrows when

you say it, it dips it all the way. Oh, okay. What would you say like Greg? Yeah. Yeah, so Greg the other day. Dave's given some great brow action there. Yeah, some good. Lola those eyebrows. Can they hear that, Drunken? Yeah. And the other one. Anyway, what do we fucking call it? He's taking a picture of his wife. Right, oh my God.

Yeah, he said, and he said, hey, if I make it up there, I'm gonna put these together. It's a tribute to you, I'll leave it up there. Gruecks are the wifey. Gruecks are the wifey. She's like, oh, my hubby's just climbing a mountain. Don't worry about it. He's gone there for the third time in three years.

He has not been a great dad at this point. Yeah, thatby's just climbing a mountain. Don't worry about it. He's gone there for the third time in three years. He has not been a great dad at this point. Yeah, that's not been around a lot. The children don't know him all that well, but there's a lot of money in mountaineering I'm told. But at least he hasn't snatched him from like you. That's right, that raised someone else's child. In June, the girl.

I have a funny feeling. You're leaving a bit out where they needed someone to look after their kid or something. I was just reading the quiet of his bio. Put it out there. What more can Dave do on the research? That's true. An Australian Oscar winner.

That's probably the information wouldn't be out there. On one of our greatest sums. Can you name him? Aaron Finch. Opening batsman. Captain of the T20 sort Inchi What if he's related to the actor his name that is Peter Finch great work. He's got it

I can't lie. I just Actually miss the mouthing Anyway, I actually missed the mouthing so I was going to let you know you could have got no way with that. Alright, well in June the group made multiple attempts at the summit. They would break away as I said from the main group and pears and try to make it as high as they could then rejoin the camp. Mallory and Bruce went first but bad weather made them abort their attempt. Edward Norton and Howard Somerville made the next summit attempt on June the 4th.

They had to leave later than they had hoped because of a spilled water bottle I've had to call the airline a few times so you got to wait actually I've just built my water What is added? Add it instantly frozen one of them to the ground My left arm is trapped. So they had to pause and cut up. You got to have to lick me. No! And then he goes, oh no! But my tongue is now attached to your arm! Is anyone going to your hot water? Oh no!

Oh the instant regret was very very good. I do have to have a tie about now I think. That's for... I should clarify. The spill water bottle makes them late because they had to melt more ice before they left because they got to have water on the trip. But I read that and that's very funny. Alright everyone ready? Phone keys, water bottle, oh shit. Oh no. You're going Oh, I have a lot of fun here. Oh, so they went alone a long later than they expected because of the water bottle incident.

Oh, no. Edward Teddy Norton alone reached 8,572 meters before he abandoned the attempt. This was an especially epic climb considering that due to a mechanical malfunction, he had to do it without any oxygen. This was a record height without oxygen which stood for the next five decades. Wow. Until 1978. Wow.

The highest anyone ever been, he's like, well, I've lost my water bottle. Oh, the oxygen's not working. I'm just going to have a go. What was the full heart again? It's 9,000 something. What's it? It's a close. Yeah, it's close, but I must say you think, oh, there's only 300 meters extra to go. But that's uphill.

The heart, the top. It's very, very difficult. It's not like you just run the last 300 meters. He's what I was just thinking. It's 8,8 difficult. It's not like you're just like, just run the last 300 meters. He's what I was just thinking. It's 8,840 meters. Right. So Ed would noten does this very impressive thing way back when, but at any time somebody tries to Google him to find out more about the action.

The act of counting out. A guy who's not climbed a mountain, I assume. He's never climbed a mountain, I assume. He betrayed a neo-Nazi. I assume. And a guy who's drove in a mini- assume. He betrayed a neo-nazzi. I assume. And a guy who's drove in a mini-mine, mini-cooper. And a guy who's in Italy. Got green when he was mad.

Yeah. What about you, Google, Donatello, and an inter-tell comes up. The. He'd be pissed off if he was sculpted. I'm like, fuck an hour. Oh, come on. Get your hand off it.

Turtle. He's the nerd one as well. He'd be shattered. Yeah. I'm not even the cool one. Don and Tello is the cool one. He's the nerd. Oh, yeah, which is so cool. These are so cool.

Intelligence is cool. I wish I was intelligent. Me too. I also wish you were intelligent. Well, it's just a pretty face over here. What? Lucky I'm gorgeous. Lucky.

I'm gonna keep trying to explain things to you. Yeah, no, don't give up on me. Keep trying, but probably just be a pretty face forever. I guess that's it for me. Just to be you. That is my value. Just honey. Waste. Just a honey. Wasted on a podcast.

What a curse. Yeah. So the first two attempts, they had to abort. The third and final attempt on this trip again involved our main man, Georges Mellerie. And he surprised everyone when he chose to take as his partner, not one of the older and more experienced climbers, but our young and inexperienced student, Andrew Sandy Irvin.

Oh, he's come around to him a bit, does he? Yeah, well, there's debate as to why he chose Irvin. The most logical it would seem is because he was the best with oxygen bottles, and Mallorin knew that they're going to make it the secret is oxygen that works. Right. Also, this other kid is young. He's very strong and apparently very brave. Great. Something.

It's not good conversationally. It's not great conversationally, but everything else. He's gunned her. When one of the documentaries I was, I watched on it was saying that Mallory had marked up all the other guys and thought, even though their experience climbers, I reckon when it came down to it, some of these other guys might sort of freak out a bit or say, now let's not keep going, let's go back.

But you reckon this young guy was gung ho, and if Mallory said, let's keep going, he'd go, no worries. And you know what, like, if he's not a great conversational, there's two cares, you're mountaineering with him, not dating him. Yeah, and actually feels like, you know when you're doing something really hard,

people like, I don't wanna talk right now. Yeah, it actually feels like you know when you're doing something really hard and people like I don't want to talk right now Yeah, ever like I occasionally do one of those sort of fun runs or and They're people chatting and like I'm just really struggling to keep breathing Just I on the project just shut the fuck up. Yeah, in this case you just like I want this guy to just know what he's doing You know you don't need to have a chat. So that sounds like a good deal. I don't want to talk at all unless it's about carabiners and I'm going to fall to my death, okay? That's all I want to talk about.

So on the evening of June the 5th, Urban and Mallory camped at 23,000 feet on a narrow snow saddle connecting the north face of Everest. They were getting ready to make one last push to the summit the following morning. They had their oxygen, they had their VPK vest pocket, Kodak camera, ready to take photos of the summit to prove that they'd made it. In his diary the younger Irvin wrote that his fair skin had been cracked and blistered by the sun. You wrote, quote, my face is perfect agony. Have prepared two oxygen apparatus for our start tomorrow morning. Oh man, that sucks. Yeah. Yeah. That was a little segmented SPF. Sunscreen. Sorry guys.

You got to wear it even on a cast day, guys. Jeff Bruce would have been wearing a Nacubra. He would have been alright. Keeps wearing the sun and the flies. He's got little corks on it. Oh no doubt about that. The Sony flies on there in every... The next morning to quit from the wire.in, an Indian website with a great three-part article on this expedition. On June the 8th, 1924. Nearly 30 years before Old Mate 10-Gay. Yeah, almost exactly three decades.

10's in Norway. 10's in Norway, sorry. And Kiwi, Edmund, Hillary. Why can't I remember those names? And that actor's name is? Peter Finch. Great. All right.

Just in mouth of that. 10's in Norway. Edmund Hillary fuck We've got to remember I'm as old as the sea So June the 8th 1924 at 8,140 meters they stepped out of their tiny two-man tent Close the flap secured it and donned the heavy oxygen apparatus Turning towards the summit of Mount Everest, they climbed into the unknown on a route no human being had ever tronced.

I'd believe that is a word if you just came into it. I have combined two words that was just tronced since Mount Everest was created. Tronced tronz, I tron his gaze towards the summit. A thick, cottony veil had obscured the upper reaches of the mountain, but at 12.50pm, the swirling clouds lifted momentarily, revealing Mallory and Irvin moving expeditiously. He later wrote, upward about 800 feet from the summit. O'Dell reported, this is a quote from him.

My eyes became fixed on one tiny black spot silhouetted on a small snow crest. The first then approached the great rock step and shortly emerged at the top. The second did likewise. Then the whole fascinating vision vanished, enveloped in cloud once more. So he's watched them go out there

and he thought it was the second step, which means they're very close to the summit. And then nothing. That's right. This is a mystery episode. I guess that makes sense. It's like either they did it or they did it. Yeah. So this is sort of like that, um, yeah, that sort of funny middle ground where no one knows. Whoa. So they possibly did do it. Well, Oda was the last man to see them alive. You went to various camps up and down the mountain hoping to find a sign of the two men.

But he found nothing at Camp 6, which is very high up in the mountain. He laid six blankets in a cross on the snow, which was a signal to the people down below. No trace can be found, given up hope awaiting orders. Shit. Then he walked all the way to the top, couldn't see him there, walked back down. Couldn't see him anywhere. Thought, you know where I'll be able to see everything at the top. Yeah.

Get a bird's eye view. So he walked up there, had a look around. Had a look around. Took a few snaps obviously, wasn't he? Nothing. Oh, you can see? One, V8 Holden. Yeah.

Doing dowry. Yeah. I love the Australian culture. Well, back home in England, words in spread and Mallory and Irvin became national heroes. Magdalena College, one of the constituent colleges of the University of Cambridge, where Mallory had studied, erected a memorial stone in one of its courts. A court renamed for Mallory. The University of Oxford where Irvin studied erected a memorial stone in his memory and in Sapolska, Theodral, the massive one in London, a ceremony took place which was attended

by King George V and other dignitaries as well as the families and friends of the climbers. So at the time, huge news. Wow. Whole country knows who these two men are. Tragically, Irvin's parents, he's the younger one, left their back door open for three years afterwards, just in case he came home. Oh, that's it.

It's also a bit unsafe. Leave it unlocked. Sure, but not wide open. It's wide open. God, anyone can just wander in there. If he makes it all the way back to your house, he can probably open the door. And it all knock.

And especially if you keep saying that to the papers, we've left the back door wide open. And you're like, someone's really sweet. That's very heartbroken. Sorry if she's still listening. Sorry to tease you a bit there. You did come in with beautiful gesture.

No, that's really, you're right. A very heart-breaking, very sweet. Just the hope. It quickly became one of the greatest mysteries of the 20th century. What happened to George Mallory and Andrew Irvin? Did they make it to the summit before they disappeared? A feat that would mean that they beat Tending Norge and Edmund Hillary by nearly 30 years. Wow!

In 1933, a clue appeared. Some nine years after the disappearance of Mallory and Irvin, Percy Win Harris, a member of the fourth British Everest expedition discovered an ISACs around 8,460 meters, about 20 meters below the ridge and some 230 meters before the first step. The Swiss manufacturers named match those of a number supplied to the 1924 expedition. And since only Malir and Irvine had climbed that high along the ridge route, it must have belonged to one of them. It was speculated that it might have been dropped in a fall. It was later confirmed three decades later in 1963 to belong to Irvine because of distinctive

marks on the handle. So they're like, ah, that's the young guy's eye sex. Wow. Why did he drop it? What happened? Ah, a bear. It'd be really? It could have been a bear. Bloody hell.

Up there, bear up there. You left a little look at me. I'm not talking. Oh no. It's the concept of what I was, the mental image I was like, was funny. And I was like was funny and I realized why I was like an arm Just like a round arm. That's funny. Yeah, what he said quite a bit more graphic Oh no

I'm just letting you sit in that moment, Jess. In May 1991, a 1924 oxygen cylinder was found 8,480 meters, 20 meters higher, and 60 meters closer to the first step than the ISACs, meaning that that was the minimum height the parrot reached. So I'm like, oh, I must have gotten this high because the oxygen wouldn't have gone up if it was. Yes. That's a good point. Unless it was helium. Oh, yeah, was it helium? Yeah, I kind of oxygen. No, we're doing funny voices up there. Look at me. I'm on top of that. Oh my god. I'm gonna make it up here. I'm not very good at conversation, but do that. I'm gonna find a voice. Hey, lick me out. Oh no.

According to PBS, in between these two discoveries in 1975, a Chinese climber named Wang Hongbao. Wang Hongbao left his tent at Camp 6 on Mount Everest and went for a walk. What? It was gone for about 20 minutes. So that's for a fucking walk when you're on Mount Everest? Just clearing his head. Yeah, Wang, what are you doing? During which time he came upon the body of a climber that he later described to a fellow climber as being quote, an old English dead because of the vintage clothes the body was wearing. No other English climbers known to have died at that elevation on Everest. So it is presumed that the body could be that of either George Malior or Andrew Irvin. Wang revealed he's found only four years later in 1979

during a Japanese expedition on Everest when he confided his story to a fellow client. Oh, he didn't tell anybody. Didn't tell anyone at the time. Oh. Time is a different, aren't they? They're just a different breed of people. Yeah.

Like you're saying dead bodies and you're not mentioning it to anyone. Yeah, mention it. Because then you could take someone there and go there. Isn't that something they just see? They just know that they're probably climbing over bodies. Yeah, honestly, I'm so hard to bring them down. At least, they're so many of them. And this is illustrates how dangerous it is. Tragically, so he tells this Japanese man, 1979, oh, you know, I once saw this English dead man up here, tragically and frustratingly for the mystery,

the very next day after telling someone, Wang was killed in an avalanche, so no more is known about his find. So now I can interview him, I'll get any more clues. It was, yeah. Because it isn't that amazing, you think, oh, it's, you know, you just go up and find these bodies, but they'd be every chance is buried on the snow, depending on the weather.

And it's also so hard to move around. Yeah, and they can fall into a hole or a crevice. Yeah, a crevice. They could be wearing a crevice. Austin Pell. He's like, hmm, I don't think he was wearing a crevade. If someone's put a crevade on him, they'll never find him. That's probably someone else who wasn't wearing a crevade.

And if you needed a little drink, you could have a caress. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of options here. In 1986, Tom Holes-Alaman, who had dedicated his life to solving the mystery, led the first team to look for Mallory and Irvin. He had narrowed his search down to a specific spot he thought Mallory's body might be. Sadly, his team were hammered by heavy, unusual snow and had to come and came back empty-handed. Sadly, the mystery remained. What you was at? 1986. Shit. Wow. But this mystery captured the imagination of so many people over seven decades, like if

you were in the climbing community, everyone knows this story. Why don't they just send up a drone? Oh. I'm just going up on a helicopter. Yeah, but I thought about that. I'm going to talk a bit about drones. Oh. And are you guys picturing this Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzig Norge see them at the peak of the mountain. Oh, they're

up there dead. And they go, they're both at the very peak. And they go, they sort of look at each other, don't say anything. And then just kick them off. It's a bit of a nudge. Yeah. And they say, into a whoops, a crobat. Yeah, no, I don't even say whoops They just wink at each other and I never speak it was a special hands Yeah, I take the photo on top. Yeah, look each other out if you're looking at photo. It's all Russian If you zoom into the background of that fatiguing see a body you're whizzing Got whizzed on I think it's whizzing in 80 miles an hour.

But so everyone, if you're into Everest or climbing everyone knows this story. Captured the imagination for people for seven decades and it's fascination persisted. In 1999 the Mallory and Urban Research Expedition was put together. Sponsored in part by the TV show Nova and the BBC, the goal of the expedition led by Eric Simonson was to discover evidence of whether George Mallory and Andrew Irvin had been the first to summit Mount Everest. In 1999.

1999. All right. So this is like 75 years later. Yeah. Using the clues that had been found over the decades, the ISACs, the oxygen canister, Wang siding of an English body, they hoped they could narrow down the search area. They're like, all right, put these clues together.

The ultimate hope was to find the bodies and then the camera that could hopefully prove if the pair had taken the photo of there before they died. If they were to find the bodies in camera, it would be one of the biggest discoveries of the 20th century. So it was decided that they should implement a code to use over the radio in the event of making the find. The code word, bolder, would be used if they'd found Mallory or Irvin's bodies.

Oh no, what happened? What happened? It's like kind of bolder. I also thought, what are you doing? That's like, what's the bolder rolling down? I'm not what are you doing? That's like what's the Boulder rolling down? I'm not at it. Yeah, say like a honking clown though, or something. Yeah.

All right, I've made the, oh, yell, Avalanche. Avalanche. Three times. I'll add red. I'll add red. Save me, I'm dying. Tell my family, I love them. Oh, he's found something.

The climbers found an oxygen bottle from the 1975 expedition that Wang, who had spotted the so-called English dead, had been a part of. So they knew their like, Wang was here. Yeah, even that would be fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. It's like they're unearthing these sort of recent history archaeological digs almost. Yeah, and like, because there'd be so many oxygen tanks there.

Wouldn't it? Wouldn't it be quite preserved up in that climate? Yeah, because it's so cold all the time. And not many bugs and other animals that would eat stuff. Yeah, of course. So, neither in the right area and the group of climbers spread out to cover more ground. Up until this point, the expedition had taken five weeks. So, there'd been up there a long time.

Within hours of searching, American climber Conrad Anker found something. And let me just say, Boulder! Oh, he found a Boulder. I forgot what that means. Is that mean Boulder? No way. He'd found a frozen body at 26,760 feet, 8,157 meters on the north face of the mountain. He had just found George Mallory. Sorry, Gavu. George Mallory, who'd been lying out in the open for three quarters of a century.

Oh my God. No. Wow. How's he looking? Was he alive? Well, first he was sadly deceased. He'd missed him by a couple of minutes. Wow! How's he looking? Was he alive? Well, first he was sadly deceased. He'd missed him by a couple of minutes.

Damn, I thought he was away, isn't it? So heartbreaking. So now we had to tell the others of his discovery because they've spread out. So he gets on the radio and he told the New York Times Boulder was the code word for body. So I sat down on my pack, got out my radio and broadcast a message.

He said, last time I went bouldering in my hobnails, I fell off. He said I was the first thing that came to mind. I just say, boulding you, fuckhead. I just threw in hobnails because of an old hobnailed boot, the kind that went out of style back in the 1940s, was still laced onto the Deadman's right foot. What was it? Why couldn't they just say we found the body? Yeah, just say hey, me, Boulder. I don't understand. They want to like other people attract attention. Okay.

Apparently his friend only heard the part where he said hobnails. He's like, I could see him 50 yards above me and away to the east. Jake sat down, read about his radio and said, what was that Conrad? Eventually he just got away. For the other way.

This is such a weird system. But they shared the discovery. I went bouldering in my hobnails. Are you okay with? Do you need oxygen? Yeah, I'm like you're losing it. At this heart, you really can become delusional. The Deadman was definitely George,

because the label sewn into his shirt even bore his name. Gage. It's, they checked and it said, Gage, Mallory. Wow, his ears. Wow. He was in a way quite mummified. The freezing conditions of the mountain had kept him relatively intact.

Conrad, Anko, who found him recalled, he lay face down, head uphill, frozen into the slope. A tuft of hair stuck out from the leather, pilots capy-hat on his head. It seems likely that he was still alive when he had come to rest in this position. There were no gloves on his hands. A National Geographic Wright, Mal Malorie's entire back was exposed. The reserve skin so clean and white that it looked like a marble statue. He's back was exposed.

Yeah. So the clothes had worn away, or that might have happened at the time. I think the clothes have worn away there. Right. Wow. Interesting. A severed cord tied around his waist

had left rope marks on his torso, so it would have dug in really dear. Oh. A clue that at some point, Malorie likely had taken around his waist, had left rope marks on his torso, so I would have dug in really dear. I clue that at some point, Mallory likely had taken a hard swinging fall. And there is fascinating footage online that I watched because it was a documentary, which I was.

It would be very proud of watching two documentaries. No, I only said this because I watched it before I read the family were upset that the video of this of his body was released. So it's up to you whether you search it out or not. It is very much like they describe. It's, it looks like a mannequin because it's like a like a plastic. He's back his white and his family would be his like, did he have kids? Yeah, he had three children. So it probably be his grandchildren and great grandchildren. Geez, yeah. That's sad for the kids.

Just a mist to not know for so long. Never knew. Would they around still, I guess? I'm not sure if they, I think one of them was alive, but the other two, because they'd be in there, you know, 80s themselves. Yeah. But that would be some sort of closure. Yeah, because you know, kind of what happened.

Amazingly Mallory's body was just a hundred feet away from where Tom Hall's out had been looking in 1986. Remember, he's the guy that went out, dedicated his life to finding it, but then went out and it was too snowy. Oh, shit, he was close. 30 meters away. That was the body. So he was in the right spot. So in 1999, part of the biggest mystery of the century had been solved. The team searched around, but sadly, there was no trace of the camera. had been solved. The team searched around but sadly there was no trace of the camera. This is it. Well this has led many Everest historians to conclude that Irvin must have been carrying it. This makes sense considering he was the better photographer and would have known the British public would want photos of the older and more famous Mallory.

Yeah. So he'd be the one taking the photo of Mallory. He can't do selfies back then. Another thing there, guess, selfie stick, idiots. But another thing that adds to the mystery, notably absent, was a certain photo of Ruth. Oh, which he was gonna place at the top of the mound. And it was not found in his vest pocket. Does that mean he'd made it and left it up there for? Or does it mean it had disintegrated over 75 years.

Oh, how do you bought it out in his dying moments? Does it look at it or something? It's flattered away. Flattered away. Or has someone else find the body and taken the photo out in those decades? Who knows? Wow, that would be a weird thing to have done.

Yeah, that would be weird. What was found in his pockets was Malarie's green tinted goggles, leading people to speculate that he was descending at night when he wouldn't need them His wristwatch had stopped between one and two, but it can't be sure of it was AM or PM Right trying to narrow it down how long they how long were they alive after Odell saw them up there in the midst? Right. Yep. It was determined that he does the watch stop when you die when you die Yeah, watchers are connected to your heart or is it back then you have to wind him. Yeah, whining. So you could trace it back or it might have been damaged in the fall. That kind of thing.

It was the term that he died from injuries sustained in a fall. He had fractures on his right leg, but the lack of extreme injuries indicated that he had not tumbled very far. His waist showed severe rope jerk motelling, great word, showing the two had been rope together when they fell. It's speculated that here in Irvin had been tied together, one of them had fallen and after not being able to pull the other one back up, they cut them loose. But they're not sure. Oh, that's fucking brutal. But also probably necessary. Yeah.

Before leaving the side of Malorie's death, the expedition conducted an anglican service for the climber and covered his remains with a can, which is like a pile of stones. So it sort of buried him up there. But what about his younger partner, Sandy Irvin? Sadly, his body was not discovered in the vicinity. Zhu Jing was deputy leader of the Chinese expedition

that made the first descent of Everest Northside in May 1960. He later claimed that after bailing from the summit attempt, he was taking a shortcut down through a yellow band when he spotted an old dead body inside a crevice at approximately 27,200 feet. At the time of this sighting, the only two people who had died this high on the north face of Everest were Mallory and Irvine, because they now know where Mallory was, had he spotted Irvine. So in 2019, a national geographic expedition

that included Mark Sinot, who read a great article that includes an account of their Everest journey And as photos is truly fascinating and he actually made also one of the documentaries and I'll link to both of those because the footage is It's awesome. Wow They went looking in the area that you jing described in 2019 so not that long ago. They had a group of drones. Yes Jess Okay fly around searching the crevices for the body of urban They didn't find it sadly and it's presumed that his body and the camera is still out there somewhere No one out luck We're probably gonna put this out in the universe. I'm really hoping that in like three weeks it turns out

It does that does happen some of the done episodes where soon after a movie's announced about it or yeah, or you know deep, you know some of the mysteries of Or all my soul forest fence treasure was found. Yes DB Cooper or you know continually has updates. Yeah, so yeah killer sort of things put that out into the universe updates, zodiac killer, sort of things. Let's put that out into the universe. So they didn't find it in 2019. Sadly, the Tally for Deaths on Everest greatly increased that year with 11 people dying on the summit. And a lot of the time, as Matt mentioned,

the bodies have to be left up there on the mountain. In fact, nearly 300 people are known to have died on Everest. Nepal's government estimates that most of them, perhaps 200, remain up there. 200 bodies. Yeah. Nearly half the people who have died on Everest. Nepal's government estimates that most of them perhaps 200 remain up there. 200 bodies. Yeah, nearly half the people who have died on Everest have been Sherpa Guides too. The reason they're left there is because of how dangerous it is to transport a heavy weight at that level. To quote from an article on all that's interesting, when someone dies on Everest, especially in the death zone, it's almost impossible to retrieve the body. The weather conditions, the terrain,

and the lack of oxygen makes it difficult to get to the bodies. Even if they can be found, they usually stuck to the ground and froze it in place. Right, well, just have a suggestion there. How could we possibly remove them? Hair dryers. See frost them a little bit. That's clever. And just scoot them down. We're, we'll drive them down. Ride them down. We'll lick them out and ride them down.

That's my advice. Ride them down. And fast. Yeah. So there's a lot of bodies up there, including presumably urban, but some of the bodies have even become well-known markers for other climbers. The most famous example is nicknamed Green Boots, because the man is wearing bright green boots.

That makes sense. The body is curled up, lying on his side in a limestone elcove cave that nearly all climbers have reached the summit pass by. About 80% of climbers is estimated to take shelter in the same cave that the man died in on their way up, because it's right near the top. The identity of green boots is highly contested but it is most widely believed that it is a seawang peljure, a 28-year-old Indian climber who died in 1996 during a controversial season where 12 people died. In 2014 it was noted that the body of green boots had disappeared, possibly being pushed

over the side, buried or retrieved, but there are reports of it having reappeared in 2017. What? But that's the most famous dead body up there. Right. And there's a, you can Google a photo of it, and it's not graphic because it just looks like someone lying there in there, they're gear, and that's the most amazing part of it is it looks like that he could have been there

for five minutes, so on taking that, but really, it's been there for a quarter of a century. Wow. Just lying there. Wow. So there's hundreds of bodies up there. Green bits, just one of them. Irvin is probably one of them.

Somewhere out there. Dave, that is a grim fact. Is that grim? Matt can tell us. Here's another grim fact. Overall, the death to summit ratio was about 4%. So 4% of people that go up there do die. The question is, would you climb?

Yes, just as a proper picture of green boots. Doesn't it just look like a guy that's just lying there in the snow? Yeah, yeah, right. Very 90s too, so I reckon they might be right. That's... I don't think I would, I definitely wouldn't do it. No, absolutely not. There was a point when I was resaging this going,

oh my god, it's so cool. And then I watched the, I keep talking about it, the documentary. It is so terrifying looking. Yeah. It's not the terrifying bits, it's just the brutality of it. Yeah.

Hey, yeah, I sleeping in an ice cold, strong on a breeze. And also, I didn't realize this because I looked into, if you want to go there, it's very, very expensive. Uh, you go there and it's not just like you go there on a tour and you walk up it. Yeah. Most people that summit go there for two months because you've got to go to the base camp, which itself is very, very high, climatized. You go up a little bit, you get ready to get a climatized to that height, then you come

back down, and you go up a little bit further, so you can go up and down, up and down, up and down, up and down. And in some seasons, there's usually about a week, it's usually in about May, where the conditions are perfect, or better than usual, to climb the top. Some seasons, there's only one day, or a few hours, where the weather is good, so you just have to wait it out for that weather. Because it's so tall, it's up in a jet stream, so there's crazy winds and all sorts of

terrible weather up there. And that's why you sometimes, a couple of years ago, a photo went viral of all these people, those like a line of people to the top. Yeah. And I saw that and went, what the fuck? And I thought it was like that all the time, but that's because those people have all been waiting for like the one day.

Right. So the 200 people that are going to climb that year, all go, shit, we've got to go now. But that's actually made it much more dangerous because there's people get stalled at the top. So now they spend more time in the death zone. Yeah, right. And the more time you spend up in the moment.

Now, like, I'm not bailing the conditions are turning, but I'm so close. Yeah, that's what people get stubborn. They get up there or they go, oh, I'm about to lose the light. But now, I've got to go. I'm really close and they get up there. It gets too dark or the conditions suddenly change and they just can't make it back. So more people die on the way down, having made it than on the way up. Wow.

Which is so scary. Would you have good Wi-Fi at the top though? Yeah, yeah. Like, could you at least post the selfie? Yeah, before. So if you die on the way back, it's like, who cares? I mean, like, you'd be like all like, air dropping your photos to everyone. So if one of you die, the others could at least upload the photo for you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Wi-Fi. Do you get good with the wife? The wife of a wifey. Oh, but that is George Mallory and Andrew Irvin. That's nuts. So still not sure, we're not sure if they made it or not. No, we'll never know. Well, we might. What do they think? It seems like probably not or is is it there is a split? It's difficult to say so a lot of people so the guy that saw them Odell

He swore at the time that he saw them at the second step, which is very close to the top right If you get to that level, they're thinking they probably would have made it right later on He was like I'm not so sure maybe it was the first step, which is quite a lot further back Well, it's not that in in meters it's not that far, but it's just a lot more difficult. Yeah. People affected in there like, all right, if they're made into the second step,

they probably could have made it. First step, not so sure. Yeah. If they made it and fell on the way back down, or if they bailed because of the conditions, and then fell on the way back down. It's just, yeah. Until we find that camera,

yeah, which we probably never will. And did I think that the photos, the film would have survived this? Yeah, apparently Kodak has said there's a chance that they could develop if the camera is found. Wow, great. They're not guaranteeing it, but it was kept in in certain conditions they say, yeah, there's a possibility. So fingers crossed one day, Irvin's body turns up with a great story. Thanks so much for telling it Dave. And that brings us to everyone's favorite section.

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who has given himself a nickname associate, or the title, I should say, the Associate Director of saying nice upon any mention or sighting of 69 and also ensuring all titles within the organization a kept short and concise and easy to remember because otherwise we might run out of space on our business cards and that would be ideal. Really would it? Hang on, can you have a question in a title?

I'll look into it and procurement Thanks so much Aiden bit of a bit of a use of irony there a bit of fun Now Aiden has given us a fact and As long as his title was it looks like he's gone long on the facts. Well, here we go And as long as his title was, it looks like he's gone long on the facts. Well, here we go. So you guys were talking about coincidences at the end of the Frans Ferdinand episode. Here's one for you.

On the day I was born, my dad was 30 years, five months, and 18 years old. 11,127 days in total. On the day my son was born, I was 30 years, five months, and 18 days old. 11,127 days in total. Both my son and I, I mean, that already is a great. That's awesome. Just that is cool. Is there more?

There's more. Yeah, there's more. Well, I mean, if the, if the, if the six, six and a half been involved, is the only way it wouldn't have been. Yeah, they've made it nicer for sure. I should say I don't read these so, read them. So I'm, I'm being blown away in real time here. He goes on to say, both my son and I are first born,

so my dad and I became fathers at the exact same stages of our lives. And whatever age my son is, I'm the same age as my dad was when I, when I was at that point. Sorry, just a fun blow of it, you got what I'm saying? Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, could you think about it and be like,

oh, what was Dad doing at this time? Which is really nice and has helped me in a way I didn't really expect. We only copped it by chance when we were out for dinner for my 30th. My wife was pregnant at the time, and my dad mentioned to how my mom had been at a similar stage with her pregnancy at the time of his 30th, too.

Most people would have left it there, but I immediately took out my phone and calculated the date that the birth needed to happen. But we lose this incredible coincidence. My son is four now, and I adore him in a way, I can hardly express no matter what he does, no matter who he becomes, no matter where he goes in life, I will stand behind him always and make sure he's happy, he's safe and he knows he's loved. That said, if he breaks this chain by failing producer first one, May the first 2047, then I will immediately cut him off forever. I don't think he would do this to me, but I have instructed my legal team to make preparations for the other safe son. That's so great.. That's so sad. That's so great. I love that so much.

That's awesome. Great fact, Aiden. I love your work. I wish you'd also open up a new section, in fact, quite a question or coincidence. Yeah. Fact, quite a question or coincidence today. Pfft.

Ha ha ha ha. I just said, look, I love it. Maybe I'll have to think of a video later. Could it doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.

I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it.

I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Next one comes from Nick Fidian, whose title is nikipedia.org. Oh, I love it.

That's very good. And Nick's also given us a fact. Here is his. Kleenex tissues were originally designed to be used for gas masks. When there was a cotton shortage during World War I, Kimberley Clark developed a thin flat cotton substitute that the army tried to use as a filter in gas masks.

The war ended before scientists perfected the material for gas masks. So the company redeveloped it to be smoother and softer than marketed Kleenex as facial tissue instead. Huh, wow, there you go. There you go. That's somewhere between fun and grim. Yes.

Yeah, cause it use for casmas. Oh, I'm thankful, I love it, I love it tissue. You love them. Great. In America, you know, they talk, in America they just use Kleenex into changeably with tissue. Yeah, am I grinding all the bit? Can I grab a Kleenex? Hmm.

Which is a bit of fun. But she's also, do they mean casmas? Can I grab a Kleenex? Especially if you're nanosang it. Yeah. Is there a term for that if you're for those products that have sort of become synonymous or the brand name that's become synonymous?

Right, like escalator. Escalator speedo. What? Yeah, for the brand. What? What's our heroine? What's an escalator called then? Yo-yo. Moving stairs, some of that.

What? That's nuts. Dave, yo. Moving stairs, some of that. What? That's nuts. Dave, you're crazy. Big. Buy no bairos when I'm thinking, I'm sorry. Bairos. All the people, they just prefer to a panzer bairo. Yeah.

I do. I do. I do that. Yeah. People older than me. Old, old. Is that it? I didn't realize I was an old person.

I think it might have like a lot of bairos. But dad probably does. I call it a pen. Yeah, I'll have a cool environment. That'd probably do. I call it a pen. Yeah, I'll probably say pen as well. I would know what you may if you say bar, right? I call it Inky Pencil.

Inky, Inks Dick. I give you an Inks Dick. Stap. Chuck is an Inks Dick. Inks Dick. Oh, fuck, that's called a Bick. Chuck is a Bick. Thank you very much.

Nick. Next one comes from Roy Phillips who's given himself the title of the Swiss witch, witch, witch, witch, switch, switch, wrist, watch. Oh, well, I feel like you nailed that. Yeah, I feel like you said a lot of the same words. I was never in control of it, but I feel like I was panicking the whole way through. Because I start like, if that's, I don't know if it's always Roy, but someone else has tried to get me with these tongue twisters before. And I don't, because I don't read them before I start. So I'm like, I'm like, oh no, I mean now. Probably the best way to do it.

It's going to get worse before it gets better. Yeah, that. Now Roy has asked a question. His question is, what's your favorite one-liner jokes? And he's given his example. I just thought of one, I don't know, it's not quite a one-liner, but just based on the escalator. Ascalator, I'm going to fuck it up, but escalators. escalators don't break. I don't reckon you fucked it up yet. I think I have. escalators don't break.

Let me find it's a Mitch Hedberg joke that is often quoted and it's so funny that I was, here we go. An escalator can never break. It can only become stairs. You should never see an escalator temporarily out of order sign. Just escalator temporarily stairs. Sorry for the convenience.

It's kind of a three line of a silk. That is good. That's fun. What about you guys? I used to love Dmitry Martin. Yeah. Drugs with a guitar? I'm trying to think of any of them.

One of his that comes to mind, he said something like, there's not a lot of difference between saying, I'm sorry, and I apologize. I'm until you're at a funeral. Yeah. That's great. One of his is talking about getting pajamas with pockets because which is great because I used to have to hold stuff while I slipped That's I like that. What about Kyle Chandler's famous joke

something like um Um, she's the duck sandwich because I was like, something like, um, um, she's a duck sandwich. Oh my god. They've done dumb club fans love it. Something about duck sandwich. Finally, the duck so, the duck so close to the thing that it's always wanted.

Oh god. No. It's good, but I can't eat. Yeah. Mitch Hedberg had a lot of as well. Oh, good. Ordering a club sandwich. And I can't eat. Yeah. Mitch Hedberg had a lot of as well, that. Oh, good. Ordering a club sandwich.

And I'm not even a member. I don't know how I got away. It's great. It's great. Carlos is and a big shout out to him, other than what I said, though, obviously. And the delivery was pretty good for mine, but you have to be okay.

Like, honestly, the fans of their podcast love it so much. I think if you think so, I'm not that it's, it's, it's, it's a great, most requested joke, but it, duck sandwiches make me feel sad because they're finally got so close to the bread they love, but they're in no shape to eat it. Great work, Carl.

I'm a good, what about Dimitri Martin who's like, I bought a cactus, but it died. Good to know I'm less nurturing than a desert. I don't know, that's good. Ah. Good to know I'm less nurturing than a desert. Oh, yeah. That's good. Yeah. Uh, I should say this is from, uh, Roy Phillips, and Roy's, uh, he's answered his own question, which we always say. Love that, Roy.

Good work. Uh, Roy's favorite is a Tim Vinejoke. The Tim Vinejoke. Oh, I love him. He's great. The advantages of Ezio Righami are twofold. I've googled Tim Vine jokes and that's the one that comes out number one. Great work, Roy. That's a good one. I don't think about my favorite one line is all that often.

Why did the Taliban burn 10,000 copies of pink floids dark side of the moon in a public square? Because it's terrible. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And finally, from Tom Goodall, also a question. Tom's, oh sorry, Tom has given himself the title of Tester and chafed the cream viscosity for the do-go-on-scone. Oh, that's an important job. Well do-go-on-scone, depending on how you say it. You say scone or scone. Scone. Scone.

Scone. Oh, scondin. Tom's question is, do you guys ever come across topics that really interest you, have loads of material to work with, but you can't do them because they just won't work for comedic purposes? Context, the first episode I listened to was about Chernobyl, so I guess the list must be pretty small. Yeah, I reckon there are certain serial kills that get suggested sometimes.

I'm just like, I don't think we can. We have lines that we draw there. These are like horrific stuff. Yeah. And we have done some pretty horrific ones. Yeah, so no, but it's, yeah, it's a level that I think we got to sort of involve kind of our, for what our majority of listeners don't want to hear about. Yeah, yeah, there's definitely some that you kind of go, or bit too

fucked, or heart very hard to make funny, but we've that's through a bit of trial and error too. We've had some that we've gone, well that was impossible to make fun. And we don't do that again. Yeah, for sure. And sometimes people like, I notice in the hat, we'll be like, this one's really fucked. Yeah. No, maybe not. Like, do one on human experiments in the Second World War. Like, no, thanks.

Yeah. I don't want to read that myself. Or, yeah, torture devices from the 18th century. Oh, no. I don't want to talk about it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

But yeah. So, but yeah, in terms of ones that would interest me, I think for the most part, if it interests me personally, then I assume that the listens will be interested and I think I would be up for doing it. Yeah, if you're interested in it, you can generally make it interesting because you give a shit about it.

Yeah, there's maybe there's something like, once I did one at a live show about St. Kilda legend Tony plug a locket and as I was doing it That one was really not maybe just not alive Live in Manchester with it. Yeah, that was like no idea what the game is So looking at me real funny Great story though Yes, all right well that brings us to the section where

we thank a few of our other great supporters on the Patreon. Jess, do you normally have a little game to play based on the topic? What are you reckon today? What they take with them when trying to reach the summer of Everest. Oh, all right. Absolutely. And get a vacuum, oxygen, photo of the miso. God, we've had some fun riffs. And I forgot about the vacuum. I'll never forget it now. I think there's ever so, more than anything

is being remembered for licking it. For what? Licking. So I'd love to say, first up from Benbrook in Texas, Jeremy Klein. Jeremy Klein. Jeremy Klein brought a recliner with him. No. Yeah. What inspired that thought process?

Comfort. Okay. Jeremy Klein on the recliner. Like a full lazy boy set up. Yeah. On wheels with a police system. No. Surround sound.

So he has to carry it. Yeah, but, but with it. Whenever a guy goes, no, nice, and they're all killed up in the snow, and he's in his recliner. He's like, worth it. Oxygen tank for a pillow, he's like. He a little ripper.

He won, cheers. A ripper, dipper. Oh, nice one. Good work, Jeremy Klein, the recliner. I'd also love to thank from Hepburn in SK Canada. Saskatchewan. Do you reckon I believe? You'd be right.

A George W. Hembery. Oh, George. Oh, George. George. No, George. How was it? It started out. Yeah.

I can't even think of how I- It's that, it rhymed with, because I kept thinking that at some point it was going to make sense that it rhymed with um, scourge. I think it was George. It was George. George. George. George.

George Herbert Lincoln. So what's uh, George W. Embry bringing? Uh, recorder. Recorder? Recorder for a- He's just playing my heart will go on. So what's uh, George W. Embry bringing? Uh, recorder. Recliner recorder. Recorder for a- He's just playing my heart will go on. Every night they're like annoying and back around. They'll be like, there's no oxygen up here

and still you're able to play that. I'd be crying tears. Those tears would be freezing crying tears of laughter. I didn't know. Didn't have to specify the tears. I'd be crying blood. On your... Gege.

Thank you, Gege. Thanks you, Judge. Thanks you, Judge Abidj. And finally for me, I'd love to thank from... Minimony. In... Maybe Wisconsin in the United States, W.I. Minimony.

Minimony. W.I. Wisconsin Davo. I think so. I'd love to thank Ben Minder. Ben Minder. Dave brought a... A copy of the Best of Jerry Springer on DVD.

Oh! Just in case. Yeah, you want to die with that. Clutching Jerry Springer. Didn't have a missode to bring a picture of, so we thought who's the next best thing? Jerry Springer. Jerry, Jerry. Obviously. Can I touch Steve's head?

Hey, Dave, can I ask you a quick question? Sure. Why does Colonel Sanders keep the 11 herbs and spices of Kentucky fried chickens original recipe a secret? Why? Because he's ashamed of them. It's pretty similar to the other one, but it's still good. Hey, can I also thank some people? Yes. Thank you so much. I would love to

thank from Sheffield and Great Britain. Hannah Wheeling. What is Hannah Wheelan brought up? We're in a deal and she's bringing a collection of her business cards. Fantastic. She's networking her way to the top. Oh, Granny. Oh, Greenbelt tea when you were these all wet. There's never a time that you shouldn't be networking. A, B, N. Hey, can you pull me out from this ledge?

Sure, but first, let me tell you about my elevator pitch. Yeah, so yeah, good for you, Hannah. And, you know, keep hustling, girl. Keep hustling, girl. I would also love to thank, from Moulvin East, here in Victoria, I would love to thank Thomas Duncan. Thomas Duncan. Tom Duncan.

Duncan Donuts. Thomas Duncan. Tom Duncan. Duncan donuts. He obviously would bring his full Baking kitchen setup. Yes Alvin. Yep. What else do you have? Mixing bowl. Yep. Mixed master. Bag of flour. Heaps of flour. Different size rolling pins. Yes. Small one. Big one. Medium. Yep. Back up big one. Maybe a baking tray baking tray butter. Yes There's little frilly things you put cupcakes in. Yeah, petty pans. Thank you salt sugar salt sugar Chocolate yeah, but a chocolate

And of course a knife why sprinkles sprinkle and approving tray. Yes, of course. Is that a thing? For breads. Proving draw. Proving draw. Yes. I've watched the great Australian bake off. Have I ever told you how much I love it when they say something's got a really nice, crispy snap, something I can't remember what I was even saying.

All right. Ha. Something like that. What is the thing that I like from that show? The crunch. Crunch, crunch, crunch. Now I get what you're saying. Yeah, is that what you told you about?

I think so. I think so. When you were hampered. Oh, mate, come on. You were absolutely sloshed. So that's where I'm going to the bus. You were. I had a dog up me.

I had a dog right up me. I had a dog deep up me. Thank you very much, Thomas. And thank you for, you know, baking lots of goods for your fellow explorers. And finally for me, I would love to thank from Brisbane in Queensland, Jack Taylor. Jack Taylor has brought in one of those

mini umbrellas that you put in cocktails. Just one. Just one. Okay, what's he doing with it? Is that a lucky umbrella? I might rain up there. Yeah, no, you're right. You know, you wouldn't want it to rain in your cocktail. I mean, he's got a spin and collard up there. You don't want to be there. Is everything made of paper for Jack? Yeah. Oh, Jack's going to die. Oh no. Sorry, Jack. Paper suit. You are dead. Paper, masher.

D-E-D-D, that's what my English teacher's used to say. That's a Simpson thing, isn't it? One girl in my class is like, that's not how you spell it. to say. And then one- That's a Simpson thing, isn't it? One girl in my class is like, man, it's not how you spell it. And I was like, you're gonna go far in life. To the teacher, cause she couldn't spell. Which was a English teacher, it's crazy. Oh, that was on a bit, she was there. No, it was definitely a bit.

From the Simpson's, right? Maybe. Is it? I'm making that up. It definitely could be, I don't remember. Dave, over to you. I would love to thank three beautiful people. And I have a- Good to pop people.

A better than they are. Absolute A grade. Hotties? Absolute hotties, it's worth it. I'd like to thank not their value, but still. Wow. From Willowyn in Queensland, Max Callahan. Back to back, Queenslanders.

What are you reckon? Max the Axe Callahan will of course have brought a Circula saw. Oh, fantastic. Perfect. The cutting through the ice. Which I read today on International Women's Day was invented by a woman. Wow. Circula saw.

You know that's very cool. There is literally, literally nothing we can't do other than peacet standing up, but we try. Haven't you heard of the sheepie? I have, but they are often made of paper. They just disintegrate. Oh, that is something that just got Jack Taylor's attention. I would now like to thank from, you know, love this, from Dawson Creek. What? In British Columbia and Canada. Cassie Hayward.

Cassie Hayward. From Dawson Creek. Is he more of a Dawson or a Pacey kind of girl? I don't know. Who were you, just Dawson or team Pacey? I never worked. Aren't they friends? Why were they have different team?

Dorsen. Because Joey was gonna end up with one of the other. Pacey. Pacey was the only one that was on the Marty Ducks. Pacey's a stupid name. Pacey. I'm team Pacey. And Kacey Hayward has brought with...

I'm Tame Michelle Williams. Hockey stick. Oh, okay. From the band, Destiny's Child. You are I'm a show balloon. Yeah, you're a party. You set for self-defense or for playing a game up there. First one to smack a puck off the top of the bathroom. That'd be cool. That'd be very good. I

wonder if anyone's ever got a golf ball off the top. Surely. If you'd be allowed. That's sure that's going to kill someone. Surely you'd be allowed. That's sure that's going to kill someone. Surely you'd be up there going, I've got energy to have a full swing. Let's play nine. Play no, play 18. Let's do it. That's party. Thanks, Cassie Hayward. No, I'm I'm I'm carrying all the essentials, including my 14 clubs. I don't know which club I want to select. Oh my god I didn't want a seven. I would like to thank from finally from Fitzroy in Victoria. Jo Jo Mullin. Jo Jo Mullin. Jo Jo. Where does it zip in the falcons? Maybe bringing Pat Falcon Bird. Who? Oh fantastic. It's got a, it's a really smart, JoJo, my one's got a really smart pet Falcon Bird.

Okay. Who can sort of like seek search ahead and come back and I can talk. It's like, oh, hard, old doll. I've looked up ahead. Let's go. Go. Go.

To. I love it. I think it's have a, because I don't have the same, I don't have human mouths, they speak slightly differently. So you got the outside of their big. Yeah, outside of the big. Makes sense. Yeah. Oh, thanks so much, JoJo. Mullen.

Thank you to JoJo, Cassie Max, Jack Thomas, Hannah, Ben and George and Jeremy. Thank you so much for your support, you bloody legends. That only leaves us with, welcome some people into the TripTitch Club, which is the very exclusive club that we, we're members of, I think we're actually the first three members of it.

Oh yeah, I think so. I think so. I think I was actually the first member and then a couple episodes later, Jess came in and then I think Dave brought up the rear. And then we started bringing in other members who've been supporting us since the, for three years on the shout out level.

And the way this normally works is I'm saying on the door, I got a clipboard, I'll read out their names, then Dave, hop some up. You feel, you're coming into the club you're feeling good oh you are hot Dave normally has quite like a bad plan with based on your city of residence oh whoa whoa whoa whoa sorry just as you hear me say bad what do you mean you mean bad as in like Michael Jackson bad I'm bad I'm really really bad like that so I know I'm not not as bad as Michael Jackson I'm'm bad. I'm really really bad. Do you mean like that? Set the way, no, I'm not as bad as Michael Jackson. I'm not saying you're doing any sort of felonies,

but you are allegedly. But what I'm saying is, you know, isn't that the point? They're kind of not very good and that's why you didn't get me to do them. What? Because you didn't want them, wait, I'm confused. You are so jealous of Dave. Oh my God, I've got a talent.

He's gifted. I'm sorry, what's going on? Get over it. The fact that Dave is talking about the following story. Sorry that you've got the boring job I was just reading out of name. Sorry about it. And that I hype him up and just hives me up.

Yes. And I mean, I was getting to that Dave, we've got him up, Paulie, and then Jess does it best to make Dave feel good about it. No, no, no, no, feel good about it. Oh my God. We are a classic combination. And then anyway prior to that Dave's also booked a band, usually because he has a booking in advance even though there are opportunities for the band to be linked nicely to the

topic Dave often gets it wrong but Jess also gets a organism food and drinks. What do you got this week, Jess? This week we have little mini umbrellas to go in everything obviously, like Dave was just saying. But food wise, we have nachos in the shape of a mountain. Oh, great. and you can die. Wow. 4% chance. Just to give you that Everest experience. Yeah, there's a good chance you will die.

4 in 100. What's that one in 25? I will be deadly. Yes. You're lacing one in 25 with poison. No. I know. Yes.

Yes. And Dave, who have you booked? Well, I had booked snow patrol, but look, I didn't want to step myself in the ears, so I sent them home and DJ, Jazzy, Jeff and the Fresh Prince. Oh, fantastic. Boom shake the room. So here we go, here we go, here we go, here we go. Yo, now I'm gonna be reading out the name, then Dave's gonna do his best. I didn't realize he was doing his best. I honestly thought he was purposely doing it poorly,

but- What are you talking about? I'm talking about, so I'm embarrassing when you don't get it. I can't know, I'm looking forward to this now. This is Dave doing these good hot things. How many of you got? Three.

Easy. Real or three, Dave? Three peaked. Yeah. So I'm just warming up. You're a one, I turned into something They're doing these good. How many of you got three easy real a three day three Pete Yeah, sorry, I'm just warming up. I hear a word. I turn into something else. Yeah, that's what I do a hear words And I turn them into something else. Yeah, it's your it's your gift life is a play. Yes. I'm an actor Yeah, okay all the world's a stay. Yeah, so I'm reading the script But I'm making up the Trump flipping the script. Yeah, I'm ready. He's in I'm reading the script, but I'm making up the script. I'm flipping the script. Wow, he's in. I'm ready. He's pumped himself up.

All right, so I'd love to welcome these three in. Just, I'm going to need you. Please grab some nachos if you're feeling brave and grab a drink. And enjoy it, Chazie Jeff. I've also got a drink in the shape of a mountain. Wow, love that. Very good. Okay, so first up, I'd love to welcome him in the shape of a mountain. Wow, love that, love that. Very good.

Okay, so first up, I'd love to welcome into the Triptage Club from Preston in Victoria, Australia. It's David Potsy, Cunningham. I'm feeling impressed! Yeah! Thank you. David, love you.

You ain't no potsy, that's my bad thought. Dave, that is the best one you've ever done on this. How did you come up with that? Complement, I'll take it, thank you. This next one, from Brisbane in Queensland Australia, it's Joshua Peel. I can see the appeal of letting you in, Josh. Fuckin' ill.

Too much of a joke. It's funny, you. New listeners are gonna be like, it's pretty bad. But it's not as bad as Matt was making out. But this is actually Dave's best go at it so far. You're ruining the momentum again. We've talked about it. And finally.

This is going to be great. I've just lost it now. So finally from a Sheffield in South Yorkshire, great Britain, it's Alexandra Rogers Brassington. A lot, a lot to work with here. This, I gotta tell you, this is absolutely top brass. Yes. Top brass. Yes.

Thank you. This, this is top brass. What does that mean? According to the, to Alexandra. This. Your colleague, Alexandra, this. She's top brass. Okay. Andton. Yeah. Alright, well there you go. That's Dave. Alexandra this your colleague Alexandra this she stopped brass canton yeah all right

Well, there you go. That's Dave doing his best. Thank you so much I would only ever give my best in anything I ever do yeah, and I excel at everything I ever do Just ask my my teammates on my tennis team from 2003 and That brings us to the end of the episode I think people can find us on all the social medias at do go on pod. Do go on pod.com is our website, if you want to support us, like we said, you can go there or go to patreon.com slash do go on pod.

You can find us at our own dresses, just send me a message and I will give them out willingly. Because that is not true. You gotta stop saying that because people do send them. You can also see us alive in concert. Yeah. We're doing four do go on shows, like we said at the top of the midst. You can also see us live in concert. Yeah. We're doing four do-go on shows, like we said,

at the top of the podcast. And the one off book cheat and primate shows are on sale. That is Sunday, April 4th. We can see all three podcasts plus Matt's Danup show in the same day. Plus we'll even let you have time for a meal break. Dave, I just had a great idea.

One day we've got to do a live show with a house band. I would love that so much. Fun with that B. That would be so fun. Can we make that happen? No. I'm looking. Jess, you work in the music biz.

Come on, you can get someone else. Who do you, could you get the Veronica's or someone to be a house band? Who do we get the Veronica's? I could, but I won't. Damn it. Damn it. I will not get the Veronica's.

Could you get the chats? Yes, I could. What about the chats? What about Skegs? I won't. Damn it. Damn it. I will not get the Veronica's jacket. Could you get the chats? Yes, I could. What about the chats? What about the Shags? I could get Shags, but I won't. Just Perkins here on Trouble J. Coming up, we've got the latest from Shags. We love music here, Trouble J.

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