Two In The Think Tank - 291 - Fyre Festival

Episode Date: May 19, 2021

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Just before we start this episode, I just wanted to tell you I've got some live stand-up shows coming up in Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne. The Melbourne one is going to be a live taping, so if you're overseas, hopefully it will be something you can see down the track. But if you're in Sydney, Brisbane and Melbourne, I'd love you to come along. So got the Chippo Hotel at 7pm on the 8th of June in Sydney, then 7pm on the 9th of June, Kingliest Throne, my favourite pub in maybe the world, certainly in Brisbane, and then June 17th at 6.30pm at Stupid Old Studios in Brunswick, which is my favorite place to be. So yeah, hopefully you can come along if you're in or near one of these cities.

It would be awesome to see there. All venues are quite small-ish, so I'm hoping that we'll be able to pack them all out. And yeah, so if you can, I think you probably want to get onto the tickets pretty quick. And if you want, use the discount code do go on or one word for a sweet little discount. So yeah, if you want more details, go to matstewatcomedy.com. Matstewatcomedy.com. Anyway, cheers, now on with the show. Hello and welcome to another episode of Dugo on my name is Dave Warnicki and as always I'm here with Jess Perkins and you better believe it Matt Stewart as well. I believe it and I'm Jess Perkins. Oh and I believe it and I'm Matt Stewart.

That's how he knows Matt Stewart is here. Yeah, the catchphrase we do every episode. All of them. I believe it. I'm Matt Stewart. I just accidentally hit my chair and I went down very quickly. What fun we have. Yeah, that's why we got chairs to go down here.

Mine only goes up. Stupid else studios is pretty fancy. Dave, how does this show work again? Well, what we do is we take it in turns to a report on a topic often suggested by a listener. And whoever's been in charge of the report goes away. Yeah, that's right. Whoever's been a good girl, or top dog. Wow, they're quite different. Take your pick, you've got two options.

Go away, research, it's topic, bring it back to the other two. Who have no idea what the report is even about. Jess, it's your turn to be good girl, such a top dog. I choose top dog. Nice. And the top dog always starts with a question. Which event, named after the process of combustion or burning occurred in April 2017? Five festival. Well done. That's why you're on the top of the leaderboard. Because I was just thinking carburetor. Anyway, yeah, you're too smart. You're

in good mate. Yeah. Fire. I'm like a caveman. Hot fire. Who knows about fire. Fire. Yes, it is fire festival. Fire festival. I'm really excited about this. I don't know too much about it. I never watched that documentary that was all the rage. I watched one of them. I watched the first one that came out. One on Netflix and one that was on like Hulu. Yeah. I'm not sure where that would be available in Australia. I've rewatched the Netflix one.

That's great that you didn't watch it because a lot of this will be new information for you. I love that. I don't know really nothing about it except I've seen a photo of a shit looking sandwich. Exactly right. But it also looked fine. We got different standards on this podcast. I don't mind a cheese and looking sandwich. It's exactly right. But it also looked fine. We got different standards on this podcast. I don't mind a cheese and salad sandwich, but that looked shit. Oh, did it?

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's no surprise that this has been suggested by a lot of people. Around the time, obviously, that the documentaries came out. It's been suggested by Jeff Wise, Rooka Deere, Rory Evans, James Bailey, Zachary Lindros, Keith Ross, Jack Goods, Christina Nitsky, Rory Evans, Trent Mandy, Alex Wait, Dominic and Lauren. So a bunch of different people.

Wow, thank you so much. Also, I think it was only a couple of being in blocktoberfest last year. It was quite popular in that vote as well. Well, it absolutely wiped the floor with this vote. I put up three topics. I did a keyword search in Jack the Hat McViddy for Funny. And I chose three topics where people have described it as a funny story.

Because I was like, I feel like doing something kind of light You know yeah, and this one Like had twice the votes one of the topics didn't get a single vote So no wow and then this one I believe last time I checked had about 65% of the vote So one that didn't get anything that is I'm not really indictment. Yeah, can you name and shame? Mariah Carey. What? No one wanted to hear about Mariah.

No, I wanted to hear about Mariah. Yeah. Bloody hell. They wanted to hear about Faya. Unbelievable. Mariah Carey, very funny. There. No one that she was the keyword.

And a curiously funny person. Just always up to funny antics. Yeah. But we didn't get to hear best. Not a curiously funny person. Just always up to funny antics, but we don't get to hear best. Not a single vote. Not one. That's wild. Yeah. So anyway, Dave, I guess this will mostly be for you. Appreciate that.

I feel like it's been long enough since it happens that if people did watch the docko that came out a couple of years ago, maybe it's not quite fresh. I definitely, you know, rewatching it, I was like, ah, if we're not about that, I'd be fine. Yeah, I watched it at the time. Yeah. I got pretty vague memories. Blink when I two were involved, I think.

Yeah. Great, love them. And, uh, yeah. But I think Americans say 182. 182. 182. Blink when 182. I think we'd probably be correct if they are an American band.

Yeah. So that I'm not saying anything. Are they an American band. How different we are. That was crazy. Wow, was that in the top 10? Because they're really... They are always... Clutch and its straws there.

They always are an album for it. You know, they're album... This was after I was sort of listening to them anyway, but that an album may be in your era to take off your pants and jacket. Have the rock show on it? I, uh... I only got the pun or the joke there when someone tweeted. I only just got the joke of taking off your pants and jacket.

I'm like, the joke can take off your pants and jacket. It's a fashion related joke. Because you're getting naked. I should not wear clothes underneath, so I didn't get it. What do you look like? You would never wear just a jacket, so what do you left standing there in your t-shirt? Exactly.

So the joke? That's funny. The mental image of somebody taking off their pants, but still being there in like shirt and blazer, very funny and shoot somehow. Oh exactly, exactly. That's fun. They never mention the shoes.

So it is a good joke. It is a good joke. Good joke. Okay never mention the shoes. So it is a good joke. It is a good joke. Good joke. Um, okay, so, Fire Festival. It all started with a man boy named Billy McFarlane. Okay, man boy. Man boy. I sort of feel like Billy's really only acceptable as a child,

but Billy Connolly really makes it work, you know. It's off. No judgment. You don't like Billy apart from me. I love Billy. Billy Zane. Oh, okay. Take it back. What about Billy Gibbons? Billy Piper. Yeah. Yeah, what about you Billy Piper? She makes it work. I love Billy for a girl. Love it. Anyway. Is it short for something? Anna Billy. Anna Billy. Drop the Anna. Billy. Anna Billy. Yep. So Billy McFarlane

grew up in New Jersey and told the New York Times that at age 13 he founded an online outsourcing startup that matched clients with web designers. So from a young age he's like oh where are the gaps in the market. Love that. Good for him. I'm a tech genius. It's a real man boy. After graduating high school, he attended Bucknell University to study computer engineering, but dropped out in May of his freshman year, that's the wonderful sophomore mat. A freshman. To found.

And we, I mean, we found out for people at any of the O-Prope, so that some people do say sophomore. sophomore. I'm one of those people. You say fishermen. To actor CEO for the short-lived online advertising platform, Spling! That's a fun word. Spling! It's like a spicy fling. Oh, yeah, a cat. Spling.

No one of those dull flings that you're used to having done. This is the amount of soap or ink. Yeah. Please take me back to my normal life. This is so dull. This is like, oh. Goodness. Yon. This is a boring fling.

A bling. You go on that to make your wife or husband see more interesting back the car. Oh my god. A boring fling would be a boring. A boring. You go on a boring and then you come back and go, I did not realize how good I had it. Yes, that's great.

So he's created Spling, TechCrunch, an online newspaper focusing on tech companies, described Spling as a content sharing network and criticized its similarity to other services which already existed at the time. Oh no. In August of 2013, 22-year-old McFarland with the help of $1.5 million of investor funding launched Magnesis. Oh that's all it takes Matt. All you need is a $1.5 million, a small amount to get going. Self-starter, love that. Yeah. What's that Simpsons quote? It's something like, he saw an already over-credit mark

and it said, me too. So. Well, Magnesis is different. Magnesis was a card-based membership club targeted to millennials. Card-based. Card-based. OK. It was essentially just about status. membership club, targeted to millennials. Card-based. Card-based.

Okay. It was essentially just about status. The card was widely compared to an American Express Black card. Like the Black Card, a Magnesis card was black, made of metal, and promised exclusive member perks. However, unlike an A-Mex, Magnesis cards wasn't, it's not a real charge card. Okay. and Amex, Magnesis cards, it's not a real charge card. Oh, okay. Basically, each card copied the MagStrip information

from a customer's existing bank card from Wells Fargo or Bank of America. And then it could be used as a substitute. It's essentially an accessory. Right. It's still linked to your same, it's just a replacement of your ANZ card, but now you've got this heavy metal thing

that makes you look like you are wealthy. That sounds same, that seems clever. You're sort of playing on people's vanity. Yeah. That feels like the kind of thing that could maybe take off. Yeah. Or you just use your plastic gun.

That's it. I'll chuck mine on my Muffat and Moringo. Moringo, working in retail, where people would hand over their black cards. Honestly, it was just a pain in the ass to swipe it through the machine. They were too thick. And I was also like, I don't care, you buying undies. I don't care. Go away.

Yeah, I saw in recently, gave me their card to buy them something. I was getting lunch at work, something they had in American Express. And I couldn't believe how thick and heavy it was. It'd be annoying to sit on. This is some of them on air. I'm guessing one of the only on air talents. Oh yeah, it's gotta be. No.

What? How much do they pay you very much? Hey, it's all about the status. Hey, are you rich? No. I'm not. Good to know. He answered very quickly.

So I'm gonna agree.. Check my card. My card is full of plastic. So yeah, you just looked wealthy and cool if you had one. By December, the company had about 500 members. Okay, that's pretty good, right? It's not bad. 500 dumb people. If they all tell two of their dumb friends, tell four of their dumb friends. It's friends. There's a pretty good article on fortune.com about it. It says, for $250 per year, members would gain entry to exclusive celebrity events, a concierge service to score hard to get concert tickets, and restaurant reservations, and access to a swanky shared hangout pad.

There's a clip of it in the documentary and it looks like an apartment. Nice. Not a particularly amazing one, just an apartment and people are just sitting around. It's pretty cool. But it's exclusive. Hangout at the club. They'd also get to meet up with other wealthy young folk who like to party. Entrepreneurs, business people, and entertainers. It was also guys, a networking opportunity. Right. Okay, $250 a year. Oh, a small price to pay.

That's nothing. For the networking. Yeah, I mean, that isn't that expensive. Yeah. You can rent out an apartment for the year. I'd bring a little little mattress set up in the corner, move in, hang out pad. Oh, okay. I'm 250. I thought you was setting up your own clubhouse and you were putting a mattress in the corner and I was like, what's that for? I'll leave you now. What are you two with a mattress? Now I understand.

You guys keep it down, I'm trying to get a shot. You exclusive past. Stop networking over there. I'm napworking. It's three of them. Fuck off. In 2014, Magnace has told the press it had about 1,200 members. In September of 2016, McFarlane said he had 30,000 card holders.

Oh, the way that Jess is saying said, let anything be, might be foolishly. And card holders instead of the word member, like is he giving out some free ones here? What's going on? 30,000, two months later at a conference in Portugal, he claimed 100,000 customers. Wow.

One million, everyone on Earth has a card. Everyone, prove me wrong. It's that exclusive. I don't have a card, check your pocket. I do have a card. He's also a magician. What is it? Slide of hand? Is that what it's called? Slide of hand. I said slide. Slide. Slide of hand. But he's a slide of hand. He slides into your pocket. And you don't need. Slide on in. He's saying a hundred thousand. A hundred hundred thousand quite a significant growth in a couple of months hundred thousand times 500 day, you know maths What's just 500?

Well, it's 250 sorry. Oh, yeah, yeah Well wait I thought it would have been easy for a mathematician like him the 25 million No idea yeah probably It would start with 25, whatever it is. Yeah. There'd be a 25 at the top. Well it's just time if I'm not going to get the calculator that's the only other thing. I reckon if he's wrong in a second we're going to hear F***! Oh my god. It's not million is it? It's not two and a half million. Two and a half. Yeah, that makes more sense. Two and a half million. No, it is 20. Hold on. I've done the calculation wrong. It's 25 million.

I was right. Sorry. The embarrassingly I typed in the wrong numbers. So I was wrong just with my fingies. So, the business is doing quite well if that is true, the business is doing quite well, if that is true. Great, and I assume it is. Why would Billy's aim lie? That's right. Also from Fortune.com, early on, home base for Magnetis was a townhouse in Manhattan's West Village, which was used to host parties and dinners for members. The well-appointed building was a co-working space by day, with tables to spread out laptops and papers,

and a fancy frat house by night, but a pleat with booze and... Corruzing. Booze and Corruze? Oh, my goodness. The big booze and Corruze. But you can know that word for some reason. Is it like an open bar in here? You could really get good value for your children.

You're sleeping there, you're drinking and eating your meals there. Yeah, you have to hang out with people who are joined to this club. Oh, that's a large prostitute. Yeah, I don't know if I'd be up for it. McFarlane conducted business meetings at the location and he even made all the Magnesis metal cards on site. Did it himself? He's in a car for it.

He's made a hundred000 in the record. Apparently, the landlord wasn't pleased. In a $100,000 lawsuit filed in 2015, the owner alleged that McFarland used a residential space to conduct commercial business, leaving the building trashed. McFarland damaged and destroyed several windows and virtually all the kitchen appliances and left the townhouse in a state of total disrepair, rubble and disarray according to court papers.

McFarlane largely denied the main allegations in court filings. The case was settled in January of 2016. Magnesia subsequently decamped for a more traditional office further up town in Manhattan's Chelsea neighborhood. Right, can you still drink and sleep there? I mean, you can do whatever you want in an office. I don't think they have HR. Yeah, they. And you probably can.

Great, I'll just take that complaint and file it here, walks over to the toilet and flushes it. I just kind of, yeah, it's crazy that he's like in his early 20s and renting out this swanky apartment to run a business out of, but also partying out of it and trashing it. Sounds like he was just looking for people to help him pay his rent. Yeah, that's what he thinks. He was sleeping in another room there, right? It was just... Surely.

He says you just film it all in to be a YouTube or TikTok superstar. Oh my god, yeah. You know they rent those mansions and trash them? You know how they do that. TikTok does. Hopefully you don't understand TikTok. What's more YouTube? It's a hard thing to accept, but you got a little bit of it.

Speak for yourselves. Man, I'm taking, I'm talking to the dad, Dad. You're influencing over there. I know what you're like. Very influential man. Around the same time in 2016, Billy and rapper Jar Rule co-founded Fire Media Incorporated. Love that. Is he just running into Jar Rule and the streets or? Well, Fire Media all came about

because through Magnesis Billy would throw parties and events and one time he tried to book Jar-Roll and it proved to be very difficult wow yeah he got onto this guy on Instagram paid him 500 bucks then he that guy sent him to a different guy who wanted a thousand dollars and then he oh in the end didn't even get through to bloody Jar-Roll it's hard to book Jar book jar rule for a gig but very easy to start a company with it He'll say yes to that. Yeah, he does he just hate performing? No

He loves it. No, so that what they were coming up with with fire media was a talent booking process like a service Like an Uber for booking drugs. Richard, hey, Jarl, it was really hard to contact you. We should create a thing where it's easier for me to contact you. Jarl was like, not just me, how about all my friends as well? Yes, and Billy's like, I mostly just wanted to get a beer with you.

Jarl. I guess if you want to bring some friends, I'm not going to say no, I'm not rude. Do you call them Jarl? Jarl rude. Yes, genuinely, yes. Really gonna say no, I'm not rude. Do you call him jar jar rude? Yes, genuinely. Yes, really jar. I'm just gonna call him jar. Yeah, love that a lot Um, what's our jar rule? What's some of the songs? I'm sure I'd recognize Living it up. Oh, yeah, okay. Is that him? I don't know Is that a son? Everybody here living it up?

But something something something living it up. Oh, yeah, yeah I think. And is he also in Fast and Furious movies? Is that general? No. Oh, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I'm thinking of a different rapper day. Oh. Oh, no, he might be. Yeah, I think you're right. I think you're right. Oh, fuck, I don't know. I'm putting it all on a line here. Yeah.

What's he done? Let's see. Filmography. He's in Fast line here. What's he done? Let's say filmography. He's in Fast and Furious Thank goodness it is general. I know him from the song that Matt sang and then from Fast and Furious. Great. Well, it's just something that I sang as well. Yeah, it could be wrong, but I don't know. Sorry, I didn't mean to do it real.

I thought that it would be quite famous. Like, you know, so I used to everyone else that you would just answer. It's just not a name that I've heard for a long time. Yeah, fair enough. You know, but um... Always on time. It's called Living It Up by Jar Rule, yeah. I gave you my heart, baby, baby, man.

But I'm always remembering just the like the backing parts. I'm not remembering Jar Rule in there. Does that make sense? Yes. So we did say everybody living it up. Oh, that was him. Yeah, that's his thing. Great. Sorry to derail.

No. But now I know who we're talking about. Yes. So yeah, they'd identified a gap in the market and wanted to create a smooth talent booking process for parties, events, festivals, etc. After putting together a team and working on the project for a few months, the discussion turned to how to promote the product. The idea of a festival or a concert was floated. The intention being to invite a bunch of industry professionals chuck on a little show. Great. This idea was taken and run with, quickly escalating to be a luxury festival held in the Bahamas.

Beautiful. Yeah, beautiful. The island in question was Norman's key, which had previously been owned by Carlos Leida Rivas, who was a kingping in Pablo Escobar's cartel. Oh, definitely butchered that name. King King. Oh, no. Billy immediately told everyone the island was Pablo Escobar's, which it wasn't, the current owner leased the island to fire media, although Billy told people he had bought the island, but the owner had strict conditions that they make no reference to Pablo Escobar. They were trying to improve the reputation of the island and didn't want its history to

be mentioned. So relevant to what you're doing. And Pablo Escobar never owned it. Never owned it anyway. Just somebody who's a touchy. Exactly right. Yes. So just keep that in mind. That little fact.

It's irrelevant. They've been asked to not say any. Do not say Pablo Escobar. Great, love that. Yes, you can have the island for your little party. No mention of Pablo. And he's like, I will not say anything about Pablo Pescaba. No worries. Sorry, Billy, I need you to repeat it back. I won't say anything about parbo. Pesca bar. Look, Billy, you keep sort of trailing off there. I need to hear it from you. I won't say that I'm half worse enough.

I won't. So. Good enough. Got on tape. Shake on it. Thank you. So in December of 2016, they hired what in the doc I was referred to as the best in the biz. They got a matte projects to handle the advertising

and marketing and fuck Jerry to handle the social media. Oh, okay. Well, that's that someone has been accused of stealing worth things on Instagram. Jerry. Right. Fuck that guy. Fuck Jerry. So they hired. Tired to diss him. They hired some of the biggest models in the world. Bella had did Emily Radikowski, Hayley Bieber, and took them to the island to shoot a promo video. Right. One camera crew was filming the models,

another just filming Billy, and what he's up to. Get everything on camera. Can we just check it on Billy cam? Billy up to. Oh, get out of a boat. That's fun. The whole shoot was essentially just a party. They were drinking all day and doing whatever they wanted because in Jarl Rules words,

we're spending so much money, we can do whatever we want. Right, he's living it up. You could say, you could say Jarl Rules is living it up. We're spending so much money, we can do whatever we want. Exactly, yeah. What does that mean? So basically in that part of the documentary that one of their like chief marketing offices is trying to arrange a shoot where they all go and

pat some wild pigs. Okay. And somebody on the phone saying we can't do that. And Jarl Raw is saying we're spending so much money if we want to go see the pigs we can see the fucking pigs. Oh, Because there is that there's a famous beach under the Bahamas right with wild pigs. I think so. Yeah. You make it start up again. No that's true. You can definitely go there. But they're told you we're not going there. Yeah. Right. And he's like we're spending so much if I want to see some fucking pigs I'm going to see some fucking pigs. Wow. Which is a you know a great point from Jail rule from Jail. From J pigs. Wow. Um, which is a, you know, a great point from Jail Rule, from Jail.

From Jail. Great. We're on a first name basis. Jeffrey. Um, so yeah, they're just like, they're just partying the whole time. There's footage in the flick stock where Billy is just passed out on the beach in the middle of the day. There's just cameras and stuff.

There's shooting around him and he's just there still clutching a beer passed out on the sand. Billy. Billy. Billy. Billy, Billy. There's other footage, is just Jar Rule yelling at the models to get in the water, bikini optional. So that's fun. He's yelling that out, bikini outfit.

It's night time, they're just all sitting around a fire and he's like, let's get in the water and the girls are like, I don't want to get in the water. He's like, get in the fucking water! He's really gross. Oh my god. That's Billy. No, that was Jar. Oh my God. That's Billy. No, that was Jar Rule. Jar Rule. That's Jar.

And of course, the toast, the Jar Rule love to make. And it was cut a few different times. So he's obviously made this announced this toast a few times. Oh yeah. Said he's to living like movie stars, partying like rock stars and fucking like porn stars. Oh, yeah Jazz they're good. He's like let him go down so well last time. I'm gonna say it again I'll try it again

Rough crowd here we go the same same crowd, but I said I'm spending a lot of money. You will laugh at my jokes. Oh man. But yeah, this whole party promo worked. The press just around the fact that these supermodels were on this trip together was picked up and started to spread. So the promo video comes out and it's really just selling a dream.

A luxurious paradise escape where anything's possible. It's just got the girls on the beach. They're on yachts, they're on jet skis, they're swimming, it's beautiful. And then it sort of cuts to like big crowds and DJ sets and stuff. So it's like, oh, it's island luxurious, amazing fun holiday. You'll get a tan, you'll party, it'll be so fun.

Great, I'm in. When, when can I go? Oh, Dave. Oh, no Oh no no no. Sounds great. Text with the video promised an immersive music festival. Two transformative weekends on the boundaries of the impossible. What is immersive music festival? Dave it's immersive. I mean what festival are you not immersed? Do I have to explain this to you? Sorry, sorry. Immersive music. You're right. That sounds great. Who are immersed? Like water. The festival is like water.

Right. You just jump right in. Bikini optional. The festival is bikini optional. Absolutely. You don't have to wear a bikini if you don't want to. The festival's bikini option. Absolutely. You don't have to wear bikini if you don't want to. Oh, well, I will. So on December 12, 2016. Take off your bikini and jacket. Is that work?

Yeah. Because sometimes you get a bit chilly in a bikini, so you put it in a little jacket. Yeah. But then obviously you want to get into your pajamas at night time. You're going to take them off. Yes. So you can dry your bikini. Yeah. Get into your pigeons at night time. We're gonna take them off. Yes. So you can dry your bikini, getting to your pigeons.

Your pigeons. Yeah. They're the pigeon themed pajamas. Yeah. Your pigeons. A lot more. I'm a busy woman, Matt. I don't have a lot of time for full words,

like to mash them together where I can. So December 12, 2016, was the day. Kendall Jenner, Emily Rattakowski, and hundreds of other influences paid by fire simultaneously posted to their Instagram feeds a video with a thumbnail consisting of an orange square and a logo made of stylized flames. They basically just posted orange tiles. So it's just a square, like an image. It's just orange. Not even a video, right? Yeah. It's a kind of a bit like Gabbo is coming.

Gabbo, Gabbo, Gabbo. And you're trying to, you want to leave it like what is this? Wow. Yeah. Yep. And they're like five, it's tall. It's like that ad campaign in the early nine is where Dipper was working out his finger. Yeah, one, two, three, and he's stretching his finger out. And he didn't know what it meant, and it turned out it was Pokeys were coming. Oh. Oh.

What an anticlimax. Do they pay Dipper with a tile? Dipper get a fire tile? Well, how much do you think you would, if you were an influencer, how much would you charge five festivals to post an orange to tolerate in your company? I might take you upwards of a minute and a half to post. And to be honest, if you're a Kindle Jenna, you're probably not even doing it.

Absolutely right, yeah. You're one of your assistants probably is. Yep. 100K. Dave? Is this for everyone or the top person? This is Kindle Jenna. Kindle, up.

Half a million dollars. 250,000. I went too high and I made a little bit. I've done that thing. No, but still 200,000. That is for just for one. Just for one. Oh my goodness.

Yeah. How are they ever going to make the money back? That's a fantastic question. Because in some ways they've done, they've got the hypeup and they're on their way to getting a crowd of this thing But they sell all the tickets are never gonna make the money back. I don't understand. Yeah I guess that's the point of the tickets 250,000 dollars each Oh, that's great because if they sell one ticket off Kendall Jenner that broken even I mean they're not cheap But overnight and you said hundreds of influences, they're probably not all charging that,

but still if they're charging, you know, 10 grand a pop. Yeah, you've spent so much money. And it, I mean, yes, they've paid these influencers some money for the pose, but they've also made some promises to them. And I'll talk about that later. Oh, okay. So overnight, the fire Instagram blew up, was attracting a lot of attention, as was the

website, which offered so much to potential festival goers. In terms of accommodation, there were rustic tents, which were like glamping, bit fancy. Then there were private villas available, and even a private yacht option for about 250K, you could just have a yacht with a private chef on there. Oh, there you go, there's your $250,000. Yeah, easy, so that done. Kendall sells one of them. Dang, I imagine that apart from the costs of the yacht.

I was gonna say the yacht's probably free, right? Yeah, I'll just assume the yacht is free. Yeah, you get it for free. And the chef is free. Yeah, the yacht staff would be free. Yeah. The yacht's fuel, they're working for exposure. Yeah. Your staff would be free. They're working for exposure. Yeah.

Exposing that yacht. Within 48 hours, 95% of the tickets were sold. Wow. But some problems were starting to occur. I know. Like they'd sold so many tickets, they couldn't actually fit that many people on the island. Oh, they could have to build a second island.

And they've sold 95% of their tickets, which is more than they could afford to sell. Yeah. But they didn't even sell all the ones that they thought they could sell. And then they got to 95% and they went, hang on, we should probably do some sums. Oh, hang on.

Have we done any sums yet? How many sums? Get the calculator out. 15's, don't get me on the calculator. They probably did. They'll figure it out. They had heaps of people working with them who know the island and who are making some very good logistical suggestions. OK, great.

So what do you do with handy people like that? You fire them. What? That's not what I would do. Yeah. But is that like a thing like where the fire festival we fire? I don't know.

That means, they literally set them on fire. Yeah, exactly. So a recurring theme throughout this entire story is that someone says hey maybe this isn't a good idea and then they are no longer required. You're fired. So not listening to the sound logic. A little bit like the no one that Naomi Higgins talked to us about. We've got five, any Naysayers for five. Yes, Elizabeth. Holmes. Holmes.

See? Teamwork. Teamwork. Makes a dreamwork. Thanks for nothing, Dave. Matt and I got that one, thank you. Yeah, how many are keeping score? One of the biggest problems was that in the promotional video, some big old text tells

viewers that the island was once owned by Pablo Escobar. So what? They were told not to do that. Yeah. They were told not to do that. And how have you been told that? In the promotional video which has gone viral. Oh yeah, you're right.

Big old. Oh, did that slip in there? I told them not to write that. It was not owned by Pablo. Do you think that's the thing that got them over the edge to selling 95% of the tickets? Like is it the kind of thing that even needed to be in there? I'd, I yeah, I doubt it very much. I don't think that would be a selling point for me, but you know, I'm not the wealthier

elite. That's right. So the owners of the island cancelled their arrangement with McValent soon after. Oh no, they were kicked off the islands. And they got nowhere to put these 95% of sales. Yeah. So they kicked off Norman's key and they only had four months before the festival happened on the 28th of April.

So that that island they did have, they would have been able to do the yachts and the glamping and everything. That was all kind of set up. It's still, they still didn't know no, they didn't have enough space. Right. And there wasn't much infrastructure there, so I think they were going to have to sort of build a lot of stuff.

But now they've got to find another place. Yeah. And hope that this next place has a bit of infrastructure. Yeah, and this is four months out. They don't have a venue. Oh, they booked Woodstock only in a couple of weeks. So it'll be fine. Yeah, I think these sort of people are going to be happy

with Woodstock-like condition. Yeah. On and on $250,000 for a yacht. Yeah. Well, we got you a little rubber dinghy. There you go. Free love. Where are we going to that?

That's a bit of fun, isn't it? Just take a lot of drugs. Take a lot of drugs you won't even know. Where are we going to that? That's a bit of fun, isn't it? Just take a lot of drugs. Take a lot of drugs you won't even know. What's your mum and dad? Ha ha ha ha. After several small islands that seemed like likely venues were turned down, and we've only two months to go before five festivals, so they just lost a lot of time

and they're looking for a new place. The government gave McFarland a permit to use a site on great exumer. In reality, the festival was now going to be in a remote parking lot, north of a sandals resort and nearby Marina where locals boats were stored. Oh, there's boats. That's good. That's good. There's a bit of storage. People need storage. Is it still in the Bahamas? It is. It's great. Great Exuma is not a private or remote island. Instead, the festival was scheduled to take place in an abandoned resort development.

It's just a big, empty block on a fairly big island. That's better. It was gonna be a resort. That could be something. Yeah, this is gonna be a public Eskivaz Resort. Yeah. Don't say that. Material released on social media continued to promote the falsehood that the festival was being hosted on public Eskivars Private Island

with maps of the site altered to make it appear as if it was an island unto itself. The place called Rokers Point, and so it's obviously just like this little section of the bigger island and so they just kind of, when drawing a map, just cut that off like yeah, that's another bit of beach obviously. Right, so like to get there, you get on a boat and they drive you out and then drive you back and they go welcome to the island. We got on over there. Yeah. I can see people getting on the other ferry. They could just walk here. Welcome.

Welcome to the island, Theresa. So now they're on a different island in an abandoned concrete development site with no infrastructure and less than two months before the festival was to begin. The technical production company were contacted around 45 days ahead of the event to set up stages, audio visual, everything.

45 days. So how many booked in before that? No. They didn't think at a music festival, they didn't think of stage sound. Oh no. Didn't think of that. They'd also booked the festival to run at the same time

as the National Regatta, the busiest weekend of the year on the island. The population of the island doubles and hotels are all booked 12 months ahead of time. But 500 of the guests have selected the villa package. So now the organizers are trying to find Airbnb's and houses to accommodate their festival goers. Shit. They'd oversold the tents as well and all influences who had posted a large square on Instagram were promised in return a private villa right on the beach. Oh, and there were hundreds of them. There was about 250 of them and those villas did not exist. Oh no. Yeah, I mean you were paying them hundreds of thousands

of dollars. Why are you promising them another thing? Exactly. I guess it would be good for them to have the Influencers there posting photos of guests, but because I mean their plan is that it's gonna succeed and that's gonna continue. Yeah. So you know having a really good first year probably sets them up, right? Get all the influencers in, them posting photos, people will be wanting to go next year. Great. Well hopefully we can get there one day. You'll be good to, I'll send an email so if we can do a pod there. Oh, live podcast.

Checking that gives us a free tent on the beach. At a very boozy festival. Yeah, I'm sure you have some listeners. Are that demographic? Sure. Hello to Kendall. Yes, and Kendall, if you could up your Patreon. That'd be great.

I buy a lot. A dollar a month, I mean, come on. Come on, girl. I mean, we appreciate it, but come on. We know you've got more. In the doco, one of the guys, Mark Weinstein, he's a music festival consultant, great job title, who was brought in late in the piece to assist,

and he was urging Billy to cancel the influences seeing as they're not paying, and there's nowhere for them to stay. He was like, like, tells them not to come. Yeah. When that was shot down, he told them to cancel some of the ticket holders, because again, there was nowhere for these people to stay.

The response, which a lot of people got was, we're not a problem space company, we're about solutions. You need to be positive. I mean, but he just gave you a solution to your problem. Exactly. How's the tibany is great? It's not a solution. Does that kind of tell you it's no longer required? After this advice? Pretty much. No, he stuck around for a bit longer, but regretted it. But what do you do when you're over committed and you're out of money? You get more from attendees.

Oh, well, they sold more tickets. Well on April 22nd, a week out of the festival, attendees received an email reminding them to load up their festival wristband, which would act as their wallet for the weekend. That's right, it's going to be cashless. Oh my gosh, it's your scratchy money. Yeah, so you load up your, it's like a little, it looks like a smartwatch kind of thing, you load that up and then that's how you pay for food and drinks and whatever you want

around the festival. The email said most attendees have loaded $3,000 for the weekend, but if you want to reserve tables or partake in extra activities, you'll want to load much more. That's what it said. Most people, most people have already put 3000 on. Nobody's getting the same out at the same time.

Nobody's already loaded it up. But if you put 3000 on your real tight-ass or real loser. Yeah, we've only got $3,000 for a weekend. Okay. It's like, do you even want to have fun? Like, do you even belong here? I knew you said this is a week out. Yes. So how's everything looking at this point? Oh, they built some villas. Oh, man. He made it build some stages No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no to build all the shit, they just get more money out of the attendees. A week out and they don't even got to stage it. Yeah.

They got Billy anything. Maybe they have a stage, but they don't, yeah, they... Amazing. It's fucked. Oh, this is stressful. Matter of mind you as well, there's not a whole lot of infrastructure on the island, so internet isn't great. So these wristbands haven't been tested and almost definitely won't work

because that would entirely rely on Wi-Fi and there isn't good Wi-Fi there or any. There's no cell phone service. Right and also the money they put on there they won't have on there because we need that money to build you. Yeah. Sorry, your balance is 3000 to us it says zero. Yeah, I've used that. But the plan worked in that. People did load up their wristband sum and the first batch of attendees to do so loaded around $800,000 worth. Great. That's good. It's nuts.

Was that by a stage? Hopefully. So 250 villas? Yeah, we're about a week out. They don't have enough tents. Around 350 people do not have a place to stay at. Okay, see tents feels like one of the easier ones. Go to the shop. Yeah, yeah.

For awesome tents. Well, they were using it rather than the fancy glamping things. And I think I have this written down somewhere, but rather than the fancy glamping tents, they're just using leftover hurricane tents, they're just like little domes. Oh, yeah. And it is quite hot there. So it's not going to be good. Yeah, about 350 people, this is 10 days out. 350 people do not have a place to stay yet.

They are, they do not have enough beds. But they don't know that. No, I'm no, no, no, god no. And they're not thinking about just cancelling their tickets. No. They're just gonna see what happens. Yeah. So houses that have been booked haven't been paid for yet.

So there's people that are wrenching out their homes and they haven't had any money. So the good thing is that Instagram influences and that sort of stuff, they're normally, they're gonna come and just be okay with downgrades that they haven't heard about. I'm sure that'll be fun. You're normally, they're gonna come and just be okay with downgrades that they haven't heard about. I'm sure that'll be fine.

I'm sure that'll be fine. So casual, they go, I'll go with the flow, I reckon. That'll go well, and they won't say anything about it online. No. So the brand will still be fine. Great. And that's all I care about, the brand. Originally there was a $6 million star catering contract

that had been arranged, but they didn't have $6 million. So Billy fired the catering company. Again, this is like two weeks out. Festival had promised uniquely authentic island cuisine, local seafood, the Hamine style sushi, and even a pig roast. But now they had no caterer. For 5,000 people they're expecting. Well, how much does a fishing rod cost? Get out there. Get out there.

This is no experience. It's a new skill. There's no more local food than that food right there. And there's no hunger like the desperation of, you're going to starve. So now, yeah, we're about a week out in OK to a glamorous dancer actually left over Hurricane Tense with air mattresses in them. People are asking questions on social media because there's no information provided about their accommodation, all logistics, and no one's getting an answer. So all the social media posts, people are asking very legitimate questions,

just like, hey, because they took down, they did have like a floor plan of what your fancy tent would look like and then they took that down, probably at the point they realized they could not provide those fancy tents and then people have said, so could you give us like a floor plan

just so we know what to bring? Like I don't know what to pack because I don't know what you're providing because you haven't put that anywhere and I love the idea of people being like, you know, legitimate question. Can I get a floor plan for the time? But you're spending so much. Right.

And then there, and it's like glamping. So they're also sort of asking like, are there power points in there? Like what? Oh, okay. Yeah. Should I be bringing my hair dryer? Yes. important questions. But so they're not getting any answers.

Bill needs to see knowing this. The social media team were told to delete any negative comments. Always good, just delete them all. It's gonna be a great dictator. Yeah, and then eventually just turn comments off altogether. Great, no longer people can't comment. People cannot ask you questions. So canceling the festival wasn't an option.

It absolutely was, but it wasn't because- It feels like they even still the best option. Yeah, great, because Billy was in so much debt to investors and didn't have any festival insurance so the show had to go on. Basically, if he didn't get some of the money, but he's fucked, like he's just absolutely cooked it. Now everyone's favorite part of the docker of course, and Dave you might have seen

memes or clips or parodies of this at the time. Customs refuse to release four containers of every on water unless they will pay $175,000. Billy called Andy King and associated of his who was helping him with the festival and asked him to take one for the team and go down to customs and suck dick in exchange for the release of the water. I've done really hit people reference some sort of blood jobs scenario but that so the boss is asking someone to go down there and do that to release several cases of water. Absolutely a case for HR. It is so fucked.

Yeah, exactly. Like I've vaguely remember watching it and the assumption was that for some reason that the guy who would be releasing the water would want his dick suck. Yeah. But it turns out that's not at all the case. No. He's just going. At least, just assuming that everyone wants their dick suck. So just give him what he wants. That's a at all the case. No. He's just going, at least assuming that. Everyone wants their dick sucks.

So just give him what he wants. That's a little bit like, I don't know. Yeah, you're right. The customs guy just gave him the water in the end and said, OK, just take it. But we're top of your list for paying us as soon as you've got the money. And Andy says, thank you very much.

And off he goes. But it felt a little bit like Billy went, Andy your gay, go suck a dick. Right, so it wasn't like, all right, say Billy, I've just been speaking to customs, they've given us two options. It's either 175K or I can suck the manager off. No, it feels like Billy's gone.

I know how it can fix this. I'll send a guy down. Oh my God. Yeah, like he just doesn't understand how anything works. Yeah, and so Andy goes, chats to the guy and the guy says, okay, have the water. Oh. But I think just the part that he's talking about it essentially

shows you how fucked it was and how desperate they were to get shit done and how much of an absolute cluster fuck the festival is and also just how the people working around Billy kind of get swept up in his bullshit. Not that they all agreeing with him all the time a lot of people like this is for everyone's like this is fuck Is this our classic cult leader sort of yeah, what do we say? They've always got a bit of cat charisma or something Well, and he's also the one who kind of talks about He was thinking about Woodstock and he's like nobody now remembers the people who died or the injuries Or there was no food or that was this or this or the mud. You know, they just think about it as this legendary thing

I think maybe They all the none of them quite want to walk away in case they pull it off right because you want to be a part of it If it does go well. Maybe it's that kind of cycle of Yeah, or also just feeling kind of obligated because you've been working on it for a while and so now you kind of feel like you have to fix things and make it work so that it can go ahead? I don't know.

But yeah, he did not have to suck a dick. Right. So that's baffling. But he was prepared to. He was prepared to. And he speaks so candidly about- I think he says that. Dimension, it's so funny.

He actually expected that to happen. Yes, he- So this is what he says. He goes, I went home, I had a shower, I used some mouthwash, and I went down there fully prepared to suck a dick. Because I was like, whoa, what is happening? What is happening? What is happening?

I just want to be paid. And can I just say, is the paid thing like legal or is that a bribe? No, I think it was a like a tax or an import tax Okay, right right right. I just want to show it was like hey And there's like something huge like not shipping containers. Maybe like semi-trail excise But so much water the fact that they've got water is something that yeah They've got water like real base level stuff. Yes We won't lose people to dying of dehydration they've got water is something though. Yeah, they've got water. Like real base level stuff. Yes.

We weren't lose people to dying of dehydration. That's great. And they'll probably survive for, like it's a weekend. You'd survive for a couple of days of that food. Yeah. If you know. Yeah. So you've got water.

That's right. Do lots of drugs. Yeah, I was going to say people are probably on things anyway. Yeah. You won't be thinking about your food. Anyway, so I just knew that if I didn't mention that part, I would get a lot of emails because everybody was just like, what?

Yeah, I can. And watching that and it got parodyed a lot. And it really, Andy King's like, he's been on Instagram now. Anyway, so the opening day of the festival is upon us. Early in the morning of April 27th, heavy rain fell on great Exuma, soaking the open tents and mattresses

piled out in the open air for guests' arrival later that day. Oh, so the mattresses are wet. Yeah. It's something we've done a few episodes about kind of disastrous opening days. But I think for the most part, they not normally pulled off to some extent. I'm thinking of Disney Land in particular.

All these things went wrong, but they sort of got away with it and it's still a successful job. And you look like, I think with Woodstock, you look back and go, everyone thinks. Woodstock is another good example, but yeah, this, it doesn't feel like they're anywhere near it. I feel like they could retain themselves. To reckon? Yeah.

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not the private jets that all the promotional material alluded to, but small, crappy planes packed to the brim. People have like, they're filming themselves on the way and they're like, this is like lower than coach. I don't know. These are influencers and stuff, so they're like, it's nice. It's nice.

It's nice seats on this plane. Yeah, how much? How much? How much were the tickets that meant they thought they were all gonna get private jets? Yeah, I know, it did vary quite a bit, but you could have like, yeah, at the yacht for 250 grand, there was like a VIP package where essentially you were like in with the talent.

And but it was like, it was a house of eight. So in total, I think it was like 500 grand or something. It was fucking crazy. Yeah, right. 500 grand or something. It was fucking crazy. It's so much money. 500 grand, a sleeper Jason to jar. Yeah. Yeah. You haven't talked about the lineup too much.

How far along do they get booking it? Like they advertise the lineup. Am I right and saying Blink when I two were in vote? Yeah, no that is true. I think I didn't know it down because most of them did not turn up. Right, well lucky them. Well, I think I'll talk about Blink 1-8-2-1-a-sec, but having a look at the lineup here, I've just Googled it again, major laser, disclosure,

skepta, catering art, a clap tone. Lots and lots of artists. It would have been a good festival. Yeah, yeah, no, it definitely would have, would have. But okay, so the first, yeah, the first flights arrived, but seeing as the tents were ruined, the first arrivals were brought to an impromptu beach party at a beach side restaurant, where they were applied with alcohol and kept waiting for around six hours.

Oh, I was just trying to distract them. Hey, over here. Yeah. Well, frantic preparations at the festival site continued. So they just took him to a bar and just got him drunk. In the sun for six hours, you just been on a plane. What was that going with it?

Six hours. For a bit, yeah. They were kind of like, oh, yeah, cool. And then after a while, it started to sort of click for a few people, it's something's not right. Right. Later arrivals were taken directly to the grounds by school buses.

Private school buses. No, there's big yellow bad boys. Driven by celebrities. Charles at the wheel, he's like, I was in Fast and the Furious, I can drive pretty quick. I can drive. I can drive quite fast. Where's the nuts on this thing? Wait, the bus. Woohoo!

So yeah, they're taken by school bus and the true state of the festival site became apparent. Their accommodations were little more than scattered disaster relief tents with dirt floors, some with mattresses that were soaking wet as a result of the morning rain. A dirt floor. Lockers for their valuables were still being unpacked as festivals attendees arrived at the site. Like, all these lockers and their, on their side, piled up, still wrapped in plastic.

There's nowhere for people to put their stuff. Luggage was brought to the site in a semi-trailer at around 8 p. 8pm with no organization or logistics and people were just told to grab their bags. Oh shit. There's hundreds of people trying to find their bags here and then help themselves to attend. No planning or allocation just a free for them.

Even some people are like, I paid $200,000. Do I get a better tent? No. No. Attendees started to post on social media, highlighting the issues such as no lighting to help people find their way around, an unfinished gravel lot, a lack of medical personnel or event staff,

no cell phone or internet service, not enough portable toilets, no running water, and heavy-handed security. These problems were exacerbated as a festival had been promoted as a cashless event, leaving many attendees without money for taxi fares or other expenses, like if they wanted to get out of there, they couldn't. They never cashed on them. The tweet that broke the internet, though, was the most depressing sandwich you've ever seen. The tweet read, the dinner at,

the dinner that at Fire Festival promised us was catered by Steven Star is literally bread, cheese, and salad with dressing. And the photo is exactly that. And it's not like it, it doesn't look like a sandwich. It's just two shitty pieces of bread with some cheese not quite on the bread and then there's salad over in a corner.

Oh yeah, I'm looking at it now. I mean, I would still eat that. I mean, I'd put it together. Yeah, and it looks like, go like craft singles cheese as well. Yeah, it's not great. But, that looks fresh. But again, when you've been told it's gonna be this five star dining experience

and you've paid so much money and some of these people are probably quite wealthy but others are probably like really saving or putting this all on credit cards to like you know for the status for the it's sorry they're putting on their magnesium or magnesium. Magnes Magnesium, that's the title that actually would be better. What he was actually selling in the end wasn't a festival, it was a life lesson. Yeah, yeah, prank her. In the Dock-O-One, Guy points out that a bunch of very famous models posting orange tiles on the Instagram is essentially what built the entire festival and one kid with a few

hundred followers posted a picture of cheese on toast and pretty much destroyed it. So the festival, it just became a real clustered fuck from there. People didn't have places to sleep. It was just a big old mess. Eventually the festival was a surely cancelled. It was all in that same night. The cancel it on night one. Yeah. So I think I read that like a local band, because I think it was sort of like the night before, the festival probably starts the next day. You know how you often get in the night before. Yeah. And there might be like some light entertainment on

and then, you know, the next day's the main thing. I think a local band like performed for a bit, but that was it because Bl Blink-1-8-2 pulled out the day of, and other acts just did not turn up. I think they were just like, oh, that's a clusterfuck. So anyway, they definitely could have canceled before hundreds of people had arrived to a remote island.

So now- Not that remote, though. Not that remote. One of the good things about it was that- At least it wasn't that remote though not that remote one of the good things about it Not that remote at least it wasn't that remote but it's still very hard to you know It's not like you could just go to the airport and get on a flight right Because the flights had been canceled so well that will that just use one of their private jet yeah the most of the attendees were stranded.

Flights to and fro were canceled. And the first flight back to Miami boarded at 1.30 AM, the next morning, but was delayed for hours due to issues with the flights manifest. And it was canceled after sunrise and passengers were locked in the airport terminal with no access to food, water or conditioning. They're just stuck there. Oh, what a nightmare.

You can't go anywhere. Flight eventually left Exuma later that morning and more charter flights to Miami departed throughout the day. The Bahamas Ministry of Tourism apologized on behalf of the nation and denied having any responsibility for how the events unfolded. Like it's not their fault. The workers who constructed the site and who had worked at the restaurant that provided meals for the festival were never paid and Marianne Rolly owned the restaurant at Exuma Point in the Bahamas that was hired to cater. She was an audience favourite when the docker came out and she broke the hearts of viewers when she said that she was out of pocket around 50k.

Oh, she was feeding people. So she had 10 staff working 24-7 to be feeding staff to be like just, yeah, they were cooking constantly. And then everybody just fucked off. There's a whole bit in the docker which it was sort of hard to get all that much information out of, but essentially when the festival got canceled, it was official, all the workers turned up at this house where Billy and all their headhontos were staying and like they just stood at the front like pay us. And so everybody fled. There was like talk of Everybody fled. There was like talk of, you know, from the people, the workers sort of saying like,

take them hostage, like to hold them for ransom. It was like there was talk of it getting violent. So all of these, Andy King again, this guy who was prepared to suck dick to take one for the team. He talks about swapping clothes with somebody, jumping the back of a car just to be driven away. It was like very scary and full on for them. So they, all of the fire festival staff have just

fucked off, nobody's been paid, and she had 10 staff working for us, so she's paid them. So she's down 50 grand. But after the documentary was released, a GoFundMe was set up and raised $140,000. Oh, wow. That's great. So that's actually a matter of profit.

Yeah, she's talking very well. So that's a nice little bit of good news in it. So five festival announced that it would offer all attendees a choice between a full refund or VIP tickets to the following year's festival. VIP, I'm in love with VIP. You can have VIP tickets to next year, which probably enough never happened.

What? I know. I reckon most people would have asked the refund. Yeah, did they get it? Probably not. So also, let's keep in mind, the whole reason this festival happened was because they were trying to promote an app.

That's right, they didn't even, this isn't their main thing. No it's not, but while the festival was happening, our whole team of people was still in the state's working on the fire app, which was the whole point of this thing. So the festival falls apart and Billy comes back to the office and fucks everyone over. It's in the docko, it was recorded, he says, we're not firing anybody, we're just letting you know there'll be no payroll in the short term. There's no official employment.

And one of the staff members is like, so you won't fire us, which means we'd be eligible for unemployment benefits. You're just making us quit, and therefore we're not eligible. So you just fucked them right up. Why? What's in it for him doing it that way? I have no idea. Probably nothing? I don't know.

Jesus. There's just no payroll at the moment. So everyone's fucked. He doesn't like negativity. Yeah. That's a small positive if you just wait. Surely that cancer's being fired. Yeah. So they should be eligible for unemployment benefits. So as a result of the festival,

Billi McFarlane and Jarrol were the subject of a $100 million lawsuit in the state of California with Jarrol later being dismissed from the lawsuit by a judge in July 2019. The lawsuit alleges fraud, breach of contract, breach of covenant of good faith, which was basically partly due to the inadequate catering and the incident where attendees were locked in the airport, and negligent misrepresentation.

In April of 2021, only a month ago from the time of recording, a potential $2 million settlement with class members was proposed, in which each of the 277 ticket holders who joined the action would receive approximately $7,000 each or $7,200 the proposal had not yet been approved by a judge a hearing was scheduled for May 13, 2021. That's today. Whoa whoa whoa. Or like, we're ahead, so tomorrow in the store. Whoa. So it's ongoing. Yeah.

But by the time the episode comes out, it'll be out there. It'll be out. I know. In addition to the class action lawsuit that was filed in May of 2017, six federal and four individual lawsuits were filed in relation to this festival as well.

In July, this is fun. In July of 2017, McFarland was represented by a public defender at a bail hearing after his previous legal team had not been paid enough to continue to represent him. So he's got no cash. Should I ever pay it anyone? No, absolutely not. That's how he's so wealthy. If you'd never paid rent or bored anything,

you'd be so rich. True. You know when you look at your bank statement and it says how much money you've put in, you're like, how? Where'd that go? Yeah, he taxed at the end of the year, so he made this much,

I'm like, no, why am I so poor? What did I have anything? Anyway, March 2018, Billy pleaded guilty to two counts of wire fraud in federal court in Manhattan and admitted to using fake documents to attract investors to put more than $26 million into his company. And he agreed to forfeit that $26 million. In June of 2018, he was charged with selling fraudulent

tickets to events such as the Met Gala Burning Man and Coachella while out on bail. So, he's faking tickets? Yes, to like the Met Gala, which is not a ticketed event. Right, you have to be invited, right? You have to be invited and you have to be like approved by an winter. Exactly. Wait, it's, what, why is he doing this? Why is he doing this? He just can't stop scammers. You want to buy this ticket? You'll sit next to Beyonce. Like he's gone from kind of like blurry. Like if he could have pulled that off, it wouldn't have been a scam. Was he intending for that festival to be like that the whole time?

No, I don't think so, but Magnesis. I think you just get too stuck in it. Because Magneson was like, it was one of those things where you could get tickets to these exclusive events and a discount of price and people would do that and then the day before their tickets would be cancelled. Oh. Like it was- Even before, right? Yeah, yeah. So from the very first one with Magneson- It's always been pretty dodgy.

Because this one now is straight up just forging tickets. Yeah, that's fucking crazy. But that's while he's out on bail while he's being investigated for fraud. He's an idiot, allegedly nailed it. So in October of 2018, he was sentenced to six years in federal prison.

He's currently incarcerated. I did not know that. In Ohio? Oh, the great state. He must feel lucky. That is like, if you're gonna be incarcerated anywhere, I'd be incarcerated there. If you can be incarcerated anywhere,

I'd be incarcerated. In there. Yeah. And even Jarl Rule, I didn't write this down, but there was like a very funny tweet from Jarl Rule, sort of like, he also frauded me. I'm also a big old victim. That was kind of once the doco came out and everyone was like, Jarl Rule, what the fuck? Jarl. And then when everybody was really outpouring

a lot of support for Marianne and all the people in the Bahamas who had put so much work into it. And for them, it was a really big thing coming to the Bahamas and it was an ongoing thing. It was set up, I think the discussion was like, for at least five years. So they're like, this is ongoing work

and a big boost to our economy. That's huge. And then she's lost all that money. So when people like, this is ongoing work and a big boost to our economy. That's huge. And then she's lost all that money. So when people like tweeting about her, Jarl Rool was like, oh, I'm so sorry, you know, so sorry. No, we need to hurt anybody. Oh, Jarl Rool was going to be like, I've also set up a go fund me. For me.

Yeah, it's been really hard. Go fund Jarl. Go fund Jarl. It's a new app. Actually, having a festival to launch it. But anyway, and one of them, Mark, one of the guys in the docker, You're a fun job. It's a new app, actually having a festival to launch it. But anyway, and one of them, Mark, one of the guys in the docker, he sort of says like, he just wouldn't be surprised if in 10 years time, you know, Billy's doing something

very similar that probably will end in a similar way. Yeah, do you think? It feels like he doesn't learn. So well, publicized now. Yeah. You'd think that people wouldn't fall for it again. Nothing like this anyway. He'd hope so. He might have to go to a different market.

He's done young people now. Might start defrauding the elderly. Yeah. He's got door to door. It was stuck 2030. He's only like 2930, so he's got plenty of time ahead of him to uh, consummore people. So maybe that can be a fun update I can do one day. Yeah. But um, that is my uh, my report on Fire Festival.

I, the happy ending their day. Well, obviously be attending. 2022. I've got my ticket. Yes. Every year it rolls over of course. Of course. The original year. They say, would you like your refund? I said no, it's roller. I'm gonna get it I'm getting a triple VRP He gets better and better and within flash and I'm actually up. Yeah money. I've only paid $20,000 that's that ticket now Today's prices 21,000 That's a savvy investment. So looking forward does feel like he wasn't miles off

That's a savvy investment. So looking forward. Does it feel like he wasn't miles off making, like if he just had a little better business knack or something, he probably could have pulled off something this, but I don't know. Or maybe if you just listen to people a little bit more. Yeah, I think it's that, because everybody who had known him from a, you know, a young age,

because his first company, Splings, Splings, Splings. He was about 20. So there were some people who would know him since then, and they were like, he's like a genius. Right. Such a good entrepreneur, he's got a good sort of eye for, you know, what people want, et cetera, because he's very charismatic, he's a great salesman,

all that kind of thing. I think maybe it is that that ego or, yeah, something gets in the way and you can't listen to other people because you know everything. Sorry, I was talking about you specifically there, man. I don't have a lot of belief.

That's always been my issue. Yeah, maybe it's that that just stopped him from actually thriving. Yeah, good potential. Just to be able to get all, it's weird to say, but it's sort of like what a wild achievement to have such a big clusterfuck. Yeah.

Like you've brought in so many people, you've fucked over so many people. So many people. And achievement in itself. Imagine the admin involved with just like. To be that bad. Making false claims about how well your business is doing and stuff like that, it must just be so much work.

Yeah, and he just wouldn't have the thing that I would have, which is guilt and stress. I wouldn't, I would ruin you. Yeah, none of that. But yeah, he's obviously just missing those parts of his brain or something where he just is able to not feel guilty about fucking everyone over. Feel awful. But well, yeah, maybe just says that thing we doesn't see it that way. Yeah. I mean, lack of shame. I got, I was unlucky. That's all. So super.

A few things went against us. It was a good plan. Yeah. Hey Dave, when you, there's actually a fan of articles saying five rappers who appear in the Fast and Furious franchise. Oh cool. It's one of the biggest employees of rappers in the world. Yeah, who are the... Who are the... Jar rules first listed.

I think he's a recurring character, I believe. But so is Ludacris. Ludacris is the one I was thinking of. He's in 2, six seven and eight okay Whereas jar rules only in the first one. Oh So when you say recurring I was thinking of ludicrous Then gin is in the second one. I've never even heard of gin gin

Bowwows and three and seven. Oh, yeah. He no longer little. We talked about him recently. Australia's own Ikea Zelia. Australia. Zelia. Zelia. In film number 7. I don't know that.

I think I stopped watching it number 5. Don't tell Michelle Brazier. She loves that series. I watched them all in a chunk at some point to get up to date. And I enjoyed them, but I couldn't tell you a thing about it. Yeah, not at all But they had cars in it so my brother loved it. So I was not heavy rotation at our house I watch gone in 60 seconds recently. Oh, yeah, I was a cage. Yeah, that was pretty good But it's sort of it just sort of ends and you're like, huh?

What's gone in 60 seconds? Yeah, that's, I guess, the car. I think it's. The car is gone from the people who own the car. The car is at the car in 60 seconds, right? Gotcha. Because the movie did go for quite a lot longer than that, which was disappointing. What, 60 minutes?

Even more. What? Yeah, I just kept going. 65. Well, possibly. But it felt like long ago. That's nuts. There was some fun stuff in it, but yeah, 65 I like well possibly but it felt like long ago There was some you know some fun stuff in it, but yeah, it just felt like a bit of nothing anyway whatever We're not here to talk about that. We're here to talk about the music of gin. Oh, yeah

Let me look up gin for you Dave If I felt J I N or GI I N Well, there's multiple things here. There's a Chinese state. There's a dynasty. Well, no. Hang on, here we go. Gin.

Here we go. 2013 Turkish German film. No, that's not him. So many jins. It's a beer, it looks like a lot of famous Japanese people named Jin. I don't know, I can't find him. I've found him already.

M-C-G-N. There he is, so found him Hong Kong American rapper. Damn. You're not find him. Go catch phrases in fan culture. Jin's catch phrase is Aya, a Chinese interjection roughly equivalent to, oh my gosh. Good for him.

That's cute. Good for Jin. Good for Jin. But anyway, guys that brings us to everyone's favorite part of the show. The fact quote a question section, which I think has a little jingle, I guess I'm out of this. The fact quote a question section, which I think has a little jingle. I guess some of this. The quote a question.

Ginn. The way is remembers the gin. I mean, that's the jingle for this section, but really it's the section that opens up this whole second half of our show, which we don't really have a name for, but it's just the second half, the better half. And just went down on a chair again. Well, that's out of it. just the second half. Yeah. The better half. And... We did it again. Just went down on a chair again. Well, that's out of it.

Just keep going down on each other. Whoa! You guys pay the tax. Just a second. So, yeah, in this section, we'd like to thank a bunch of our supporters. If you get on board at patreon.com, such do go on pod or do go on pod.com you can support us for a bunch of different levels, different amounts of money and this is sounding very much like five or five or so.

But we honestly we put out the stuff every month. Yeah, we get we're good. We're good on our problems. We've got a multi-year track record here people. We actually do. Put out over a hundred bonus episodes. We put out. We do. We go down on chairs, we put out episodes. The most recent bonus episode that we put out probably last week at this stage, but when this one comes out is I went back and did one of our most requested mystery topics, Diet Love Pass. We did many years ago. I did a Diet Love Pass part two because it's been two in the last year or so

New scientific breakthroughs that might explain what happened to those poor Russians. That was a fun episode We recorded last night and we laughed a lot. Yeah Very silly, but a lot of fun. So there's a bunch of yeah, like they've said over a hundred bonus episodes You can get at the moment There's also things like Facebook group that you can get involved in, it's like an exclusive beach party in a way. Yeah, absolutely.

And the catering is fan testing. Very good. And one of the other things you can get involved in, if you're on the Sydney Shamburgs like Memorial additional level, you have to give us a factor quote or a question. You also get to give us, give yourself a title and we've got four of those to read out now.

Should I, is that all I need to say before we go into these? I believe so. Alright, so first up we have Gadigah from the UK. Gadigah. Gadigah. And Gadigah has given himself the title of, waiting to hear a five, got that promotion. They said they'd be in touch,

but that was a decade ago. Fingers crossed. You'll think it's crossed? Gary, do you work with these people every day? That's a long wait. Gary J has asked a question. Here is the question. I found out not long ago,

Colotelli was first broadcast in Australia on ABC TV on the 28th of Feb. Bracket, I thought I'd make it easy for you to pronounce Feb, right? Right Feb instead of February. 1956. Oh, that's TV. It was not in 56. Colot TV was 75. Yeah, way later. He said it was on something called Anti-Jack Introduces Color in a one off tele special edition

of the Anti-Jack show, which is a clip they play every now and then on sort of his TV dockers in Australia, where the color sort of creeping up from the bottom of the screen and the characters are saying, but get it down like it was a rising water almost. Pretty clever. It hasn't got to a question yet, Gatti, but we'll continue on.

It was created two years after the Annie Jack show finished and featured the main character, Annie Jack, played by Graham Bond, even though she had been killed off in the last season in 1973. The episode was five minutes long and was the first show on ABC television to be broadcast in color. He said, oh yeah, my question is, is anti-jack any relation to anti-donna? I'm sorry for wasting your time and hope everyone is well in keeping safe. Not at all. Anti-Jack is actually anti-donna's anti. Yes. Oh right.

You know, you hope as a young person that one day you'll grow up and be an anti yourself. And that did happen for anti-donna. So yes, actually, yes, strong relation there. And they worked and they took up the family business of comedy. Yeah, working color. Working color. Yeah, but you, working color. Yeah, but you're working color.

Geno anti-jacks catchphrase or what it was. Was it? I tried to remember Gen's catchphrase. That was it. It was a rip your bloody arms off. Oh, that's fun. That's good stuff. You know, aunties.

Classic aunties. Well, it was like a, yeah, I don't know. Anyway, I've never seen an episode or anything, but apparently it was very, it was pretty, it was good stuff. Yeah, great. The comedy doesn't always date that well. And you see, clips sometimes you go,

this is what the parents generation laughed at, there you go. But I think classic stuff, I should probably check out more. You know, like our kids all think yours are mine. We'll think that the stuff we find. Have you got some news? But?

The stuff we find funny, he'll be so lame to them. And that'll be so heartbreaking. Yeah, do I mean, I guess the lesson is don't share any of your passions with anyone else? Yeah, that mean, I guess the lesson is don't don't share any of you, any of your passions with anyone else. Yeah, that's a great point. Especially from other generations. Learned that in the bloody, the bloody River Dancer episodes. Get over it. I won't get over it. Get over it. No. So just ones that are kidd you. I don't know. I don't know. We should ask the doctor.

We should wait, we should ask. It's been a while. I think we've skipped a step, but I'm... I'll be a... Godfather of Hero. Well, well, yeah, just wait and we'll get back to you. You know, let's you know. I'll let you know.

I'll let you know. I'll let you know. I'll let you know. Put on my application. The next one comes from Paul Mller, who's given himself the title of On Bad Man. That's funny. And Paul's offered us a fact. Here is the fact. There's another longest run here.

This fact is inspired by the report on big things as tourist attractions, which was another one of the bonus reports. If you only hear that, go to patreon.com slash.tv Go on pod or that's right. We're on pod.com. I brought down the history of in Australia, if you're not familiar, we have a lot of big things around the place. Your big pineapple, your big bananas, your big potatoes.

We love it big. We're a sunburned country and we love big shit. And one of them was a big shit. Big shit. There is roadside tourist attractions as what we found most of them to be. But what a here this fact from Mellor. When I was butter boy, my family often made the short trip from old to blackpool in northwest England.

To spend the day by the sea and enjoy the fun, fair rides and general cheesiness of the resort. Fair to blackpool is a resort town. That sounds fun. I remembered recently that on several occasions there was a huge replica of King Kong climbing the blackpool tower and it used to scare the crap out of me. Never understanding what it was properly back then I did a bit of research. Turns out that in 1983 for the 50th anniversary of the original 1933 movie, an 85-foot tall inflatable

King Kong was attached to the mass of the Empire State Building at a cost of $100,000. However the giant fake primate did not fare well in the wind so high up and was taken down soon after. The eight-story nylon King Kong balloon, which had a blow out in an armpit during a test, developed a hole in its left shoulder during inflation and lay in a heap on the side of the building's mass. The beast cause mayhem on the streets below as people. And mayhem in the sheets.

Not a generous lover. King Kong. The beast cause may have been on the streets and in the sheets. As people in the city were looking up instead of at the traffic, two biplanes in the bollocks of those that shot King Kong down a half century before buzzed the building, dodging five helicopters that carried photographers and some jet airliners flying special routes to give passengers a view of the ape. The following year an inflatable Kong appeared in Blackpool. I'm not sure how long it was there, what happened to it since, or even how it was organized,

but some of the photos are pretty crazy. It is no wonder I would not walk near it as a kid. That is a, well that's a good, that's a fact, is it fun, Jess? Thank you. Yes, it is pretty fun. Wow. It's certainly not boring, which is my domain.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. So this is just how we work, you know, without one of us. Like crumble. That's right, because faxa one of three things, boring, grim, or fun. Exactly.. That's right, because faxa one of three things. Boring, grim or fun. Exactly. Uh, thank you very much Paul.

This next one comes from David Loring, who, do you want to try to see if you can find a photo that come on in Blackpool or in the Blarp one in 83? Uh, this one comes from David Loring. Captain, uh, the top, given himself the title, of Captain of the Edison to actually functional blood test machine relay team. Remember, at the run the blood

to another room to protect the machine? Oh yeah, yeah, pretend that it was working. That's right, that's so funny. And David has offered a fact as well. David's fact is, the color magenta is a lie. What? It's known as an extra spectral color, which means there's no visible wavelength of light that corresponds to the color.

Or in simpler terms, magenta doesn't exist. What we perceive as magenta is actually a combination of red and blue light battling it out in our brains, and making us think we see a color that's not really there. Whoa! Alright, that's not a grim fact, is it boring Dave? No! But it's very interesting.

We need a full topic. Interesting fun? Yeah, I'm telling someone, like even if you don't go into it, magenta's not real, you go, that's fun. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. Please dig a one. Well, you're the expert here, but if it was up to me. Magenta's not real, you is a photo of King Kong 1984. Whoa!

That's good. Oh, look at him go. Love it. That's awesome. That's in 1984, but that photo looks like it's from 100 years ago. Totally. Oh, there it is in color. Oh, yeah, love it.

Yeah, I'd be scared of that. Look better in black and white. Yeah. Everything does. Everything does. The... Arty. Ha ha ha ha. All right, cheers to you, David.

Finally, we've got one. Sorry. The related photo, Panicked Woman believes Blackpool Tower is melting after Boyfriend's Photoshop prank. He just photoshopped very badly that tower. Look at it, wobbly. And as obviously, he sent that to her. So bad.

Oh, that is so good. That's great. She had written blackpool towers, started melting today. This is her applying caps. No way, new message. What the hell? How did it melt?

How did it melt? How the fuck in the tower melt? Don't know, man, too hot I think you're in fun. I'm so excited. Something very funny about Collegiate Parton and man. How the fuck in the tower, Mel? Don't I, man, too hot, I think you're a thug. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha That's so fun. Older the guilt would have kicked in and out of that. Just joking. It's a very good Photoshop for me, very good. Yeah, you were right to be fooled. I failed it. All right, so the final fact-quite-a-question, this week comes from Nathan Swop,

who has given himself the title of Master of Joining Petrions at 1 a.m. Ah, an important role. And Nathan's asked the question. His question. I like it though. I think the most succinct of all of the entry so far. This one's from Nathan. What past topic would you like to see as a film or novel?

Or could be improved with a primate? Okay, past topic. What would make a good film, which should be some sort of like adventure kind of topic or something? I feel like the woman who fell from the sky, which is a short documentary on that, but I feel like it could be a feature length movie. Emily Blunt. Great.

That's why I'm putting forward. Yeah. She would be wondering, yeah, to the jungle. feature length movie Emily Blunt great that's why I'm putting forward yep she wouldn't that wandering yeah to the jungle wasn't she quite young yes yes very young in the 20s I believe I mean if they could age down Samuel Jackson and Captain Marvel they can make him a little bit more like a down Samuel Jackson surely he's right for the throw let's get him in there he's in every movie he He can do anything. I'm thinking about the, I can't quite remember a name,

but the woman who was on the run, her family took her on the run. Yes. Oh, Pauline Dakin. Pauline Dakin, yeah. That's a great story. That was a very cool story. That felt like it could be,

definitely, if it had a great story. And it could be like, like we were with the report with you about not sure what's real and what's not. Yeah, yeah could be definitely if it had a right. And it could be like, like we were with the report with you about not sure what's real and what's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, that's really good. You could really play with it. Yeah, I think a primate in that would take away from that a little bit.

You'd be like, OK, they've gone too far. Yeah. So no primate in that one. What's a good topic to add a primate into though? Maybe one of the hosts. Maybe the, yeah, that trans-e book house. So let's get one. A chimp as a getaway driver.

Drive-ass thing. Yes, that's fantastic. Very interesting. The chimp in there. Chimp driver. They're very good drivers, chimps. I assume. I can only assume.

If we can do it, they can do it. I reckon that this week's episode could make a good documentary or two. Okay, but could it be improved by a primate? Yes. Okay. I think the festival could have been. Yeah, for sure.

I know what it gave me. It wasn't something to do. A primate. Yeah. Do the primate. Do it. Do the primate. Do it.

Do the primate. Do the primate. Do the primate. Do the primate. Do the primate. Do it, would? A champ. A champ. Yeah. Oh, OK. Arnie Jack. Played by a champ. Played by a champ. Perfect. The other thing we'd like to do is think a few of our Patreon supporters have been on the

shout out level. Justin, on the comes up with a little game, somehow related to the episode. Yeah. So one of the things I forgot to mention in the report was that some of the attractions at the festival had on offer. One of them was a treasure hunt, which we love here. We love treasure hunt. We love treasure hunt.

We love treasure hunt. So I'm thinking these people, we give them all an activity or some kind of stall or something that they're running at a festival. Okay, great. What do I mean? At that they're running at a festival. Okay, great. You know what I mean? At a working festival or a failed festival? Working. Like if I festival, if they pulled it off and it really was a luxurious thing

that they were hoping for, what are these people doing at the festival? They can be part taking or they can be running it. Maybe part taking, that's more fun for them. Oh, great. Well, if I can kick off, I'd love to thank someone who's been waiting patiently, just got in contact asking if I'd missed shouting them out, and it turns out I had. So thank you so much from Round Rock in Texas in the United States. Melissa Shook. in the United States. Melissa Shook. Melissa Shook is competing in a

Hula hoop competition. Oh! But Hula hoop's diamond encrusted. Wow. Yeah, that's right, that's FI. FI. FI. Yeah.

That's a classy hoop. And so far, Melissa is up to four hoops on the go once. Oh, right. It's had to, it's a sort of a quantity. It's both, quantity and quality. I'm quality. Quality of the, okay. Sort of judged like the Olympic star.

Exactly right, yes. Oh, the gymnastics. There is a rigorous criteria. German judged notoriously hard in the hula hoop. Thank you very much Melissa. I'd also love to thank from Gugong in New South Wales Australia. Patrick does well or does well. Patrick is at a dolphin show.

Everybody gets their own dolphin. Wow. And throughout the course of an afternoon, you are taught how to do a trick with your dolphin. It is questionable, ethically. Yeah, I'm feeling for the dolphin. Yeah, that's very on-brand for this festival. Exactly. They are incredibly wealthy assholes. So not you, obviously, Patrick. You just, you're just going along for the experience and the fun, but the people running it Asshole, so I'm free to open that but you get it often and you and your dolphin actually had a really beautiful connection

And that dolphin told you telepathically that they're actually quite happy. Oh, that's nice. So it's okay Nice That was a good save. Yeah, Patrick and finally from me, I'd love to thank again from Texas, from Garland in Texas in the United States. Josh Harmon. Josh is playing table tennis. Okay. He's playing against former multi-wilburden champion

Pete Sanpress. Wow. Everyone pistol. Hey everyone, you play, you everyone gets their own former Wilburden champion that you play table tennis. And a fun little twist. It's not just table tennis, like over the table,

you kind of have to bend over here, you back. It's like this huge life-size table tennis court. Yeah, it's a lifestyle. You stand on the table. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have to just oversized paddles? Yeah, yeah, they're much bigger, the net is bigger. And you have to do a bit of running up and down.

Right, still just big ping pong plastic balls. Yes. Right. That sounds fun. But they're like very big. They're like volleyball size balls. And then what they you realize when you leave the court, it's not a really big table tennis thing. You just get shrunk down. They've got that technology there. And then they put you back obviously. Yeah, I mean, put Pete back as well. Yeah, Pete's fine. Yeah, checking him, Pete, pistol, Pete's welfare. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll pistol.

He was unstoppable. It was boring when I was a kid. I'm just like, yeah. He was gonna win. I was one of again. Great. Yeah. So there's always been someone like that in tennis. I think

Special in the men's so it's been something like that Domino does always a dog Get boring because she just wins all the time Very sweet of you to say pop Who else wants to thank some I'll jump in if you don't mind Bob. I don't mind, please I would like to thank from ring stead in DK's Denmark. Denmark. Holy. Yes. Love this. To Maya or Maha. It's MHA8. Maya. Lickagard. Wow. Maya Lickagard. Fantastic name, man. It is Denmark as well. Awesome. From Denmark. Thank you so much for your support. I've made some pretty crap suggestions

So very open. No, I love you. You're the ethical dolphins. Yeah, that was good I love when I go to my favorite music festival the Meredith music festival There's I never really I've went to it the first year. I don't think I've been to the since but it's an outdoor cinema where I once watched Pumping iron with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Oh cool. So cinema murder. They were there used to be at least fun They had one that splendor and I never went idiot. So I can't I think maybe what what film should Marja watch? They Actually screening films that aren't out in cinemas yet.

You gotta remember, this is a fancy festival. Yeah, and they introduce by the stars. Yes! Yes, these are like first cuts and Leonardo DiCaprio is saying stuff like, I just let it, we'd love to know your feedback. We'd love to know. Yeah, let me know. This is a lot of rough cuts.

They just actually today's rushes. Come up and chat to me personally afterwards. Or like it gets to the end of your day, sorry, we haven't shot this in yet. So I'm going to do it with a few volunteers. So I'll be me. You want to come up, you can play Kate Winslet over here. And here we go. Yeah, right. And Kate's in the back there. I'm going, I'll, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. We got Marja.

Marja here. Who's very versatile. So versatile in the acting space. So, did you go with Marja or Marja? Could be a soft J. Could be Marja. Marja, Marja. Not sure.

But Likigard, more confident with that. Likigard, yeah, it's similar to, you know, Likki Lee. Yes. Same spelling of the first time, I think L, Y, K, K, E. Fun fact. That is fun. It's a Licky Lee's not Danish. Not Japanese.

She's boring. Oh no. Where's Licky from? Hmm. Swedish. While you look up that I will move on to our next fantastic supporter who is from Virginia in the United States, it is Logan Acker.

Logan Acker, getting Salem, Virginia. A special sort of futuristic massage. Oh, you know, it's a long, hard day. Best festivaling, partying. Yeah, but they've got this new technology. What does it get under your skin type. Yeah, it's like it glows red Very relaxed. It feels warm. It's like warm inside of you. Yeah, that's cool Yeah, you suddenly forgive your dad. Wow, that's powerful. Yeah, it's not just for muscles. It's also for brains. That's cool It's powerful. Yeah, it's not just for muscles. It's also for brains. That's cool

Jesse can I have a go is it my turn? No, I mean you're gonna go in the fix of my brain. So yeah Give your dad Too far gone I love you listen to John from Griffith in the Australian capital territory. He showed out to and white. And white. What about, and white. They're taking you into a tent and they show you a new color.

Whoa. Whoa. Like one that, that, that, that, that does fit to me that, that does seem like the kind of thing that rich people would do. It's like, it's not even like a new shade. It's literally a new color. What, you can't even imagine what it is, but when you see it you go I've never seen anything like that We're not letting everyone else see this and we probably never will

Is everyone seeing the same color was everybody see a different? Oh How many colors can they come up? No, there's one color and you'll come out and you go that was worth it Did you see the color? Did you see the color? How do you describe it? That was worth it. Did you see the color? Did you see the color? How do you describe it? Wow What's that it's hard to and that they even build it? They've even named it and white. Oh Is that misleading? Yeah, yeah, you go what it's gonna be similar to white. It's not it's unlike in I can't describe it to you It's amazing. Wow make you feel something tell me like if you're merging two of the primary colors together Which two you imagine you can't get it. Really? It's a fourth primary color. Whoa. Yeah. Fourth primary.

That's going to change. Exactly. Seriously, this is alien technology. Holy shit. Wow. That's exciting. That's terrifying. Yeah. And let us know if you can describe it to us. That would, I mean, it sounds like it's impossible to do, but but and have a go. May I thank some people as well? Pleasy. I would love to thank. Pleasy from Houston, Texas. Well, Texans today. Yeah. I love it. I'd love to thank Heather Ringman. Heather is in the custom fragrance tense yes make no smell yeah it's funny my mum used to call farting making smells who made a smell?

what a positive spin that is hey look at your kids creating things that's nice look at your making smells and I was in promise call in prep so first year it was a FN would say pops yeah who's done popsops? Pops is good. Fluff. Fluff. Who's Fluffed? Who Fluffed up?

By the way, who's dropped your guts? Which is a perfect. It's very visceral. Oh, that really pick them up. Pick up your guts. Drop their guts over you. But if you want to, like, if you want to do in this tent, you can make a smell of someone dropping their guts. you. But if you want to do in this tent, you can make a smell of someone dropping their guts. Absolutely.

You can make anything you want. But ideally, more positive smells, right? Yeah, but you know, it's whatever's positive to you. Oh, that's true. We've probably worked through a few things in that massive place. You've got some smells you need to get out. Hahaha. Hahaha. Hahaha. Uh oh.

Hahaha. It's happening. Hahaha. Enjoy that one over there. Sometimes I just think, why do you talk, Jess? Why? That's what you do best. It's my job.

Okay, thank you Heather. I would also love to thank from Gottenberg. Oh, now I'm over to Sweden. I would love to thank Adam Norman. Adam Norman. Adam Norman, I love that. What about? Okay, it's a paint in your own Picasso.

Yes, but it's actual Picasso. It's worth, oh wait, what? So you come in like they bring in a Picasso and you get to paint over it. If you want, you get to add to it. So it's like a collab between you. I put a dick on it. And a couple of P.

That's amazing. I would, I would definitely put a dick on it. Would you put a dick on the crotch? Not. So what if it's a fruit bowl of fruit? Put a dick on it. Put a dick on it. So you walk in the tent and they go,

this is worth $80 million. Dick. And they hand you a branch and go, go for it son. Yes, this is more, this is all the sort of stuff I picture rich people doing. Yeah, like, hey, you can destroy stuff. Getting your own dolphin wasn't good enough for you. No, I just don't take pictures.

I think rich people normally care too much for dolphins to be that cruel. But they don't give a shit about public Picasso. Yeah, public Picasso. And dead paint your own Picasso. Paint your own Picasso is pretty great. Adam is actually a very good artist. Yeah, thank goodness.

The dick is very loveless. It's very, it's a beautiful, beautiful picture. You really go, was it a photograph? Adam is actually a very good artist. Thank goodness. The dick is very lifelike. It's a beer. It's a beautiful beer. You really go, is that a photograph? Why is it this cubist image with all sorts of stuff going on? There's a nose and a knee on the same part of the body, and then there's also a life size, but also very well painted dick.

Is that dick 3D? No, the shadowing is just that good. Wow. Yeah, that one's very talented. It's talented, yeah. Has someone put their dick through this painting? Someone's standing by in that painting with their dick through it? It's fine if they are, but I'm just, oh no,

it is just that accurate. So well done Adam, you're big perv. And finally, finally yeah finally for me. I would love to thank from some land Gorgeous love to thank Joel Trumblay We know another Canadian man named Trumblay So it's funny to leave you hanging there, but I'm gonna give him. Who?

Sorry? I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't know. So what's Joel being up to? I think Joel is... Oh, oh.

Okay, no, you probably need to say that. No, nothing that made me make that sound. Joel is riding a dinosaur. Oh wow, dinosaur rides. They brought one back? They bring that, okay that's a dinosaur. I was picturing Plotty. Is this what we're talking about, a big one or a little one?

It's a big dinosaur. Whoa. They've brought it back. They've essentially created Jurassic Park. You can have up to 10 people on the back of this dinosaur. There's like a little dinosaur setting. If you pay more, can you do it with a celebrity? Yeah. He looks up a separate thing.

That's a separate thing. It's hanging out with you or something. On a dinosaur. Yeah. Yeah, you're doing it with a celebrity on the back of a dinosaur. Nothing harder than that. I've always wanted to do it on the back of the dinosaur. Well, I meant just hanging it also on the dinosaur, but if you want to take it to the next

cell. When ever happens happens, you know? Hey, Dave, how manyities have you done it with? I would know that it's that none. Evurgent. Whatever happens on a dinosaur stays on a dinosaur. Yeah, that's all I say. So thank you.

Although I don't want to kiss and tell. What happened between me? I came on the back of that dinosaur and the cum swapped. Oh, I did it. They added that bit out, please. No. Well, please. That was a lot.

That was a lot. I really hope most people have stopped listening but now. I have. That's everyone we're thinking there. The last thing we got to do is thank a few people for being long-term supporters, tripditch club members. So to get involved in this is all you have to do is be a legend. A legend who supports on the shout out level or above for three straight years. Amazing. And how are we doing it this week? We've been sharing it around a bit lately.

I've enjoyed sharing it around but I'm... We'll go back to the classic. No, no, no, not at all. I know for sure that I'll be bad at trying to hype people up. But it doesn't, that's great, honestly. And then I'll hype you up. But that's great, honestly. And then I'll hype you up if you like. Yeah, okay. And then you've got to go.

So I'll read them out. How many are there? If there's lots, I don't want to do it. There's not that. I don't think there's that many. We could go one than the other if you like. You want to warm into it, because it's your first time. Yeah, that'll be good.

And then we'll hype each other up. Yeah, of course. Love that. So this episode comes out on the 19th of May 2021. What a beautiful day. Going down in history. So we've got one, two, three, four, five, six, six, three, eight. We can do that. Easy. So the Triptage Club, it's like an exclusive place like, basically it's like a very expensive bungalow on the beach. A villa, right? A villa right on the floor. You can also, we've also got a yacht.

We make a lot of promises about this club, but we follow through on these promises. Yes, that's right. We book music, we have great food, we have great drinks every week, it changes. Yes, I'm sitting on the door, I've got the door list, I'll read out the names before Jess and Dave hype them up and then hype each other up. Jess behind the bar, have you got a cocktail here? Have you all been to do that? Sing as you do in the hyping? No, that's whatever. I got an idea. Great. I had an idea for a drink before and I lost it. But food wise, we've got an assortment of cheese sandwiches. They'm so pretty. They're all in those shitty little polystyrene containers.

It could be fireball shots. Yes, and a lot of tequila. That's good. Yes, and they're very expensive. Wait, and we normally don't charge for drinks. Yeah, but these ones are going to cost you a limb. They're very expensive. Yeah, we're going to rip your bloody arms off.

I'm going to rip your bloody arms off. I'm gonna rip your bloody arms off. And Dave, you normally book a band, anyone from the five of us, you'll want. We booked a lot tonight. It's every rapper that's appeared in the Fast and the Furious and Furious and Furious. What, gin? Headlined by gin.

He got gin. Gin. Fantastic. How can I? Is that my birthday? I thought it was gin. Yeah, gin. Fuck, are you able to do a gin shot with gin?

Wow. A shot of gin, first of all, is cooked. Oh, no. Oh, my God. You are fucked. If you're onto the shots of gin, shotting botanicals. Oh, my goodness.

So, the first cab off the rank, got in contact with me today today saying that they've been on supporting us for well over three years, but they, there was a bit of a clerical error at their end. And anyway, it's a real pleasure to welcome them in, pushing towards a year after when they should have been, I think, about six months,000,000,000. About it, six months anyway. So you're ready to go? Yes. From Wichita in Kansas in the United States.

It's Michael Derrizzy. Oh, Michael Derrizzy. Wichia doing tonight. Coming into the club. Yes. Then you hype Jess up. Yeah, great. We hype each other.

Oh yeah, Hell yeah Jess, great. We hype each other. Oh yeah, just great hype in. Thank you. I think we've added a new step of hype. Just keep them momentum going. I didn't get that one. Which is what you're doing tonight. You don't have to get it. Which you're doing tonight.

You just have to keep them going. Yep, yep, yep. All right, well that one was way up above. Now I'm going to down with it these new ones Coming in at a much more popular manner. Yes. Yes, Dave. You did it. All right now from Melbourne Can jade the Rizzy getting the Rizzy with it. Okay. Is that something I thought I was like busy getting busy? Yeah Yeah, yeah great From Melbourne in Victoria Australia. it's Georgia Robinson. Oh, here's to you, Georgia Roberts. That was to the cloud. Good stuff.

From... I'm faint. Can't you, you'll get through it. We've had a few Scandinavians in today from in today from Porson Mone in Norway, it's Asmond Nordhagen. Oh, Norway, you're having a bad time. You're having a good time. Yes. From Brighton in State CO, Colorado, or reckon in the United States Dominic Webster.

Well, you're brightened up this party. Woo! Dominic Webster. Well, you're brought to that this party. From where are we in Victoria, Australia, Emily in Oxcowski. Emily, where's the, where she been on my life, where are we? I was thinking, where are you being? I think it was gonna be. Yes, thank you. I thought it was gonna be a man so I was gonna say where he be. Yeah. But then I had to sort of backtrack, but where he be? He be!

From Birmingham in Great Britain, it's Troy's swaffa. Oh, Troy's swaffa for what? From Birmingham, a brummy. I'm great Britain. Birmingham up to see you! You're quite that good, hell yeah! At what point does it hit the top of his drink bottle with his finger if you tie it up? Yeah, yeah.

Letterman style, sort of. Alright, that's it, that's all we have. Oh my goodness, finish with the best weather. Birmingham up to see you. So welcome in Troy and Malin, Dominique, Asmond, Georgia and Michael. And yeah, if you want to get involved in any of that stuff, patreon.com, such as DuguomPod or DuguomPod.com.

Follow us on the social medias, DuguomPod on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter. Fantastic. Our email address is Dugu on pod at jmail.com. And yes. You're arguing that me. What? Yes. Michael Derrissy said that he sent an email while back to explain

this thing and he didn't get a reply. And I said, honestly, I'm really going to have a sharp word to Jess because she replies, wall emails and one of you is a liar. And then I called him a liar, no caps and exclamation marks. Great. I said, is you calling Jess a liar? Because I did respond with invisible ink. With magenta. So I fully can't see it.

Yeah, that doesn't exist. But that brings us to the end of the episode. What a fun time we've had, learning about the Fire Festival. I can't wait till we have our own Fire Esk Festival when we do a live podcast on a barge in international waters. Yeah, that's right. Do you think we should get jar-involved? Of course.

Definitely. If only there was an app that we could book him through. Yeah. Oh, well. Just love to paste on an Instagram to reach out to another person on Instagram. Yeah. See, on the way?

Eventually, we'll get in touch with jar. We've got to get gin involved. That's for sure. Oh, just headlining. We're going to photo-listen to some of Gin's work. Well, that is it for another week. Thank you so much. We're closing on 300 episodes.

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