Two In The Think Tank - 292 - Ada Blackjack: The Real Robinson Crusoe (with Cass Paige)

Episode Date: May 26, 2021

In 1921, a small crew set off from Nome in Alaska to Wrangel Island, 85 miles off the northeast coast of Siberia. Due to her work on this expedition, Ada Blackjack would be lauded in the press a couple of years later - tune in for the story!For tickets to Matt's shows in Sydney and Melbourne: https://www.mattstewartcomedy.com/ Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: patreon.com/DoGoOnPodBuy tickets for our screening of The Mummy on September 10: https://www.lidocinemas.com.au/mummyBuy tickets to our streamed shows (there are 12 available to watch now! All with exclusive extra sections): https://sospresents.com/authors/dogoon Check out our AACTA nominated web series: http://bit.ly/DGOWebSeries​ Check out Matt’s Beer show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej4TUguJL58 Submit a topic idea directly to the hat: dogoonpod.com/Submit-a-Topic Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/ Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader Thomas REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/ada-blackjack-arctic-survivor

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please use the discount code do go on for a discount for you, do go and listeners. Alright now on with the show. Hello and welcome to another episode of do go on, my name is Dave Ooniki and as always I'm here with Matt Stewart. Hey Dave, how's it going? So good to be here. It's Dave Ooniki, and as always, I'm here with Matt Stewart. Hey Dave, how's it going? It's so good to be here. Great to be here with you, but not as always. We are joined by a special guest today. It's Caspage!

Hello everybody! Hello Caspage. It was good to do go from my house and come on this episode with you. That's great if you say, if Dugo is in capitals and the rest is in very lower case and then it goes back to on. Oh, we got subscript happening. Love that.

I told Cass before the show, she has to say that in every sentence. That's the, that's the whole idea of this show. You've got to say Dugo on in every, that's right. Cass has never heard the show when she thinks that's what this is. Oh, I do.

Go on. Damn, she's do. Go on. Damn, she's good. Very good. Does the same thing on primates, just every sentence is primates is primates out. And yes, anyway, Dave. Can you explain to Cass and the listeners,

first timers, what this show is? Well, Cass, we are so pleased to be joined by you this week. Thank you so much for coming along. Thank you for having me. What we do here is we take it in terms of a report on a topic often suggested by a listener. One of us takes that topic, goes away. It does a bit of research, brings it back to the group. People, the people it sounds like?

Very nice of them to do that. And you know, being Mr. Nascar this week, it's Matt Schewitz turned to report. Oh. And you can attest to this. It's, it's, it's, some people think that we pretend that we don't know, but you and I genuinely don't know what Matt is about to report on. No idea. He's got one of those laptops that you can't see the other side of.

He's got a one-way laptop. One-way laptop. How many two-way laptops have you seen in your time? Well, I, yeah, oh. Oh, look, if, I think he won Muscat's one. Yeah, he would, perfe. But, if I think Elon Musk has one. Yeah, he would, per. But I haven't seen it in real life. I've seen his star link in real life.

You know the, oh, up in the sky. Yeah, bonkers. I'm the man I know about only in sort of extractive mind in my line of vision. Get off of the sky mate, you're on the telly. He's everywhere. Well, he, he, this very possible, it's very possible that it could be a report on Elon Musk, but we always start with a question.

Matt's gonna ask us that question. That's right. I'll for new listeners, Jess is normally here, but she's not. No, that'd be for old listeners. New listeners wouldn't give you shit about that. Old listeners, Jess is fine. She's just, she's on a holiday. She's on a vacay. Ah, she is. We wish, Jess is fine. She's on a holiday. She's on a vacay.

She is. We wish her all the best. She's having a great time out there. She's boogie boarding. She's climbing rocks, rock climbing, if you will, doing all sorts of things. Absailing. Not sure if only that's true,

but she's having a good time. That's all we know. That's the first course I heard. Yeah, exactly. She's very active, very outdoorsy. All right, Cass, so this is the question. Yes. And someone is out there telling the the score so you could get on the board If you answer this correct question correctly, but days is also obviously in the game. I am currently on the board

But I'm the lowest on the board So actually this could go what wealth me either way because if I get it right I'll go up one But if you get it right, you'll be so I someone below me now. That is exciting, that's good. All right, and I try to write, because I don't know, I hadn't heard of this chapter of history before, so I'm assuming you two might not have either. So I'm asking the question away that you'll have a definite chance at answering.

Okay. Question is, what card game does badass 1920s explorer share her name with. She's that's poorly written. That doesn't make sense. Does it A bad ass or just bad. What a card game does bad ass. So at first names Aida, second name is a card game. And then and she's she was a, she was on a relatively

famous expedition in the 1920s. Famous in the day, back in the day, maybe not so famous. So you just got to guess a card game basically. OK. Don't go first, Kest, do you got a card game on the mind? OK, look, I'm going to throw away my first guess, which was Ada up and down the river. That's a great name. That makes sense if she's an explorer or some sort.

Yeah. Yeah, well, it would make... If you got to pick your last names, I probably would do that one. Pick that one? No, but I was in as if you and I personally the humans that we happen, we got to pick our last names.

Well, I'd also pick this name, which can be really useful. It's very cool. A card game. Rummy. No, it's not Rummy. Good name, though. I'll give you one last guess,

I'm going to give you a clue. It's Cass a card game. Rummy. No, it's not rummy. Good name though. I'll give you one last guess each I'm gonna give you a clue. It's casino card game blackjack. Yes Ada blackjack Ada blackjack. That's cool. Not even an order didn't get that because that is awesome I am oh you're on the board. Yeah Bored on you welcome Oh, bought on you welcome. What a name. What a amazing name. I had a black and that's a legit name. Legit name, yes.

And decent for greatness. I had a black jack's story was suggested by listeners, including Jessica Banner-Zack in Perth, Western Australia, Alicia Moore from McKinney, Texas in the US, or Plato, Texas. She suggested it about a year apart from two different Texan post-codes. Well, she suggested it at home, commuted to work and then thought,

oh, did that go through? Well, I'm here now, I'll do it again. That's possible, that is possible. You got a double tapy submission, so that makes sense. Chris Smith from Peoria in Illinois, USA, and Olivia Krieger in Calgary in Alberta, Canada. Okay, so I mean, I was slightly misleading, maybe saying she's an explorer, because that is not at all how she began, but she's sort of in the end. Anyway, it wasn't a born explorer.

Wasn't born an explorer. What? Most are, you know. Yeah, that's right. They come out wearing car key. And they're ready to go with Safari hat. So, this all takes place in 1921 when a small crew set off from Nome, I should have looked up how to pronounce that, you know, in Alaska, heading for Wrangle Island, 85 miles off the northeast coast of Siberia. The expedition was charged with claiming the island for Canada and the British Empire. The crew was put together by one another name I should have looked up

the pronunciation of. Phil Halmu Stephenson. Stephenson was born in 1879 in Manitoba, Canada, and his parents had immigrated from Iceland to his prior one of Dave's favorite countries. Oh, I love it. Definitely the top two. Oh, do I have a one? Yeah, sure. The Bahamas.

Fantastic choices. Iceland are the Bahamas. Classic bedfellows. Yeah, that's right. You got a one you cool off And then warm up. It's how to best treat Any of your muscle planes. It's how the rich do it. They go to the Bahamas They go to Iceland they go to Bahamas. They go to Iceland. Then the other that's right. Yeah until your legs are feeling good. Yeah So Seventhson went on to study at the University of Iowa and then the University the other that's right. Yeah. Until your legs are feeling good. Yeah. Uh-huh. So, Sevenson went on to study at the University of Iowa and then the University, as well as

the University of North Dakota, I don't know which order it was in. Probably doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. And then he went on to study anthropology at the Graduate School of Harvard. In 1904 and 1905, Seenson was in his parents' homeland of Iceland conducting archeological research. Then in the following years, he was recruited to be a part of the Anglo-American polar exhibition, expedition,

very different thing. He's just shown some pictures. So, is he some sort of archirator or all of the sort? Look at everything I learned at school. That's he's professional show and tell. I was he some sort of curator or all the sort. Look at everything I learned at school. Yeah, that's he's professional show and tell. And then in 1906 and 2007, he lived with the Inuit people of the McKenzie Delta. Then according to a website called Wikipedia.org,

he and Dr. R. Matt always brings that one up. Never heard of it. Yeah, it's actually, I mean, I'm trying to get the word out. They're very good website. And you think it never heard of. Yeah, it's actually, I mean, I'm trying to get the word out. They're very good website. You think it's trustless. You think it's trustless. Yeah, yeah.

And so dot org. Dot org. Yeah, don't know what that's short for, but it sounds like fun to me. But anyway, from Wikipedia.org, he and Dr. R. M. Anderson undertook the ethnological survey of the central Arctic coast of the shores of North America from 1908 to 1912. So he's in work. He's getting out there, he loves the cold. He loves checking things out. He's going to get the bum. He's going to get bug muscles for sure.

Yeah, for sure. You just did he just stay cold? Yeah. It's all over, he's going to freeze up. Yeah. No warm up all cool down. It's a recipe for pulling a muscle. It's all cool down for this guy. Well, maybe that's why. Maybe he needed to hit the Bahamas in between because the next thing he got up to was in 1913 when he organized and directed a Canadian Arctic expedition for the government of Canada. This expedition was ill-fated and is now referred to as the last voyage of the car

luck, which ended with nearly half of the 25-person party perishing. What a piece, a lot of postives there. Oh, is it nearly half because 25 isn't divisible by two? Yeah, that's right. Yes. Because it was at 12. I think it might have been 12. Oh, that's all.

But do we have any information about anyone maybe losing a limb? Could it have been half? Frostbite does kill part of you? That's true. Maybe enough fingers and toes went to make up another half person, half P. How many fingers and toes make up half a P? It's quite a few. A few sets. Yeah, few, few sets. Probably the remaining 13. No one came out with fingers all the time. One of those who died, one of the 12-ish who died was a guy called Alster Mackie or Mack McKay. Is that Ring of Bell Dave?

He had previously been part of the earnest Shackleton's endurance or the Shackleton fantastic expedition. I know one of his descendants. Really? Because we, one of our episodes that people still talk about from years ago was a day of did a report about Shackleton's. Yeah. It's an amazing story of survival, very sad to hear

that guy went through all of that only to die up north, but who's the descendant of Ernest Shackleton or someone on the endurance? Yeah, just to line down descendant of Ernest Shackleton. Amazing. Super lovely. I'm Shackleton. Yeah, it's brilliant. It's a great name. It's a great name.

It's so fun, you want to keep it right? Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. Oh, that's that's great. And one of my favorite bands from high school wrote a song that referenced Shackleton. What was what was your favorite man from last? Enter Shikari. And I'm trying to remember the name of their song. It was about how we need to save the environment. Release the slow. Because the poll caps were melting. Right. And how Shackleton would be rolling in his grave.

Beautiful. With the way that we're treating the Arctic at the moment. He loved the ice. He loved the ice. He didn't want to say it melted. No, well that'd be sad. But then I guess the captain of the Titanic, he'd be doing the opposite of rolling over in his grave.

He's melting shit. Let's see, opposite of rolling. He'd be lying dead still in his grave. Absolutely motionless with joy. Just giving a couple of thumbs up. Keep melting that guy's. So, Seven's, and he had this career, you know, getting in and amongst the ice.

But he obviously survived. He was one of the 13 survivors. Yes, he was. And I mean, I didn't go into too much detail because it feels like it could be a report in itself down the line. But there were accusations that he, he sort of, he went off on a honey expedition and he didn't realize that the boat was going to hit trouble.

But some are like, he knew what he was doing. He was sort of fleeing. Oh, as in he went off and was like, I'm doing my own thing. I'm gonna go, I'm taking a few people, we're gonna go get some food for everyone. And you guys stay here. You guys do you guys want anything? We're going out.

Does anyone want to hit the ground? You're good? Okay, what I'm hearing is you're good and we will go. We'll go, yep. Help, help, sorry, help, help. Yeah, okay, you can help now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's Sorry, kelp. Kelp. Yeah, okay, use me.

I'll get you some help. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's a, yeah, I sort of a seaweed. You can't get you some help. You can't get you some help. Kelp us. Yeah, I'll kelp you. Yeah, probably probably the count is hunting.

So we'll take longer now, because that would be faraging, and I was planning to hunt. I thought you said honey exhibition. It is tricky. I imagine that. It would not go down there when I that I'm off to a honey exhibition. We are cold and starving. But you know, if I was feet paid, I don't want to let these bees down. You know, these apiress to like.

They worked really hard. Take it a little too seriously. Did you remember when that stuff came out where someone did all the equations required to figure out how much honey would cost if we paid bees a living wage? Minimum wage? No. It was stupidly expensive.

I asked because I couldn't remember the number. But imagine heaps. Yeah. That makes, that does make some sense. What are these penny points? They're not just square. It's not like a single bee squirts a jar out of day or whatever. It'd take quite a few of them. That's the thing. It takes so many bees to go collect the little pollen pants you've seen bees after they've

collected pollen. It looks like they were in little pants. It's really good. They're legs of all fat with pollen. They look like the old fashioned plants that go really fad at the thigh. It's brilliant. It's all the buzz. And when they go back to the thing, they have to turn it into honey, which is some sort of body process. And there's, you know, I'm sure they didn't factor this in, but I would imagine there'd be some like, you know, you'd probably get hot work, pay dangerous conditions. You work for one dictator as well. Yeah, it's probably not great. You're not great working conditions. Hey, I just want to put it out there,

not work I'd love to do. All right, you don't want to come back as a bee in your next life. Yeah, imagine if like, to buy ice, you have to pay all the individual molecules, a living wage, a living wage. Like if you just want every molecule that made up the H2O, it would be expensive.

Yeah, maybe what about what are the things the animals get involved in? We're just like, that's fine. Okay, figs, how figs have to have a wasp die in them. To get pollinated or to grow into a fig or something? God, I'm trying to remember what a fig is. Figs of fruit tastes very good with blue cheese if you put it in the oven. Oh yeah.

Oh, come on, Matt, you know. They got blue cheese on them. Yeah, they go well with a tasting platter. Figs, I've heard, I know fig jam means is like a, is a, I've put down with someone who thinks they're pretty good. Yeah, there's an acronym. It's an acronym, yes.

Yes, it is. All right, anyway, I've lost, so I, yeah, I guess, so, I mean, the difference between my water and ice thing and yours is bees probably, they're more, Is water alive? You know, where do you draw a line there? Well, some people have hide boundaries.

I'm actually a level 17. So... Yeah, ice can cast a shadow. Water has difficulty, but I definitely does so. Really? Okay, that's where I draw the line between water and ice. Anyway. So, but I think you were trying to say that we're a bit sus on this guy Yeah, I think he's you know how how good it is, but anyways Well, he's very good at it if he knows when to sometimes the best thing you can do is quit and you have and knowing when to quit is a skill

That's right. No one to hold him and fold him like his friend Blackjack Yeah, when she coming in Soon just setting up setting it up because the only reason she gets over there is because of this guy Stephenson He continued with the explosion still 1918 at one point apparently he survived a 96 day stretch Same only eating animals Arctic animals, he shot with his rifle.

Is that same? So he was carrying 96 bullets within the whole time. It would have to be more, because he's not gonna get it every time. Well, what if they line up in front of each other? You're gonna try. I don't know if we'll have to eat one animal a day either. Maybe he had... And is this a kind of shot a big one and had it over a few days?

Not a six day. No, that genuinely helps me understand it a bit better. But is he proud of this? He's like, I went off and did this. Or did he do it for survival? I think it was for survival, yeah. Right, it wasn't like bragging. Yeah, it seemed to happen to be where they, you know, not as much as known about when

ice was going to block your ships in and whatever. Not like all the stuff I know about it now. So by the time of the 1921 expedition, he had many years of experience surviving and exploring Arctic regions. With this in mind, how confident are you feeling about this upcoming, upcoming expedition to Rangel Island? I'm feeling so confident. Like I said, this guy knows when to keep going and when to back off. When to leave the party.

Okay, well, that actually that holds up. That definitely holds up. So this is from an article in Atlas Obscura written by Tessa Hulls, and she describes Stephenson as a charismatic Arctic explorer, but calls the expedition, at best an ill-conceived venture, at worst, it was a willfully negligent act of astonishing hubris. Using the pull of his celebrity as a seasoned explorer, Stephenson assembled a team of four star-struck young men, Alan Crawford, 20, Law Knight, great name, 28, Fred Mora,

28, and Milton Gaul, 19, to claim Wrangler Island for the British Empire. Even though Britain had never shown the slightest interest in wanting it. He's just taken it on himself for some reason to take this island off the coast of Siberia. No one wants this mate. He's like, oh yeah, boy, I'm gonna go get it. That's a classic Taylor's in it

of being like, I'll bring the, this is for the Queen. Yeah, I guess so. So he is a big hit. That is a the queen. Yeah, I guess yeah, so he is a 21 king king okay and queen yeah, well there would have been a queen as well that's right. The current queen's dad is that who's who we're dealing with in the 20s? So our grand son resident monocus. That's right. That's right. Actually I should say I do support the monarchy of bees, the queen respect to her. I do too. I do think we should pay.

It must have sounded like I was trying to put down the bees by talking about ice, but I was really just trying to bring it back to the ice report and really sounded like I was having a swiped bees, but I love the work they do out there. Pretty sure. Isn't it something like we wouldn't exist without them? Yeah, well, they're pollinators, so a lot of our fruit and vegetable requires a B,

or millions, and we need them to eat. Okay, I love eating, so I love B's. Pay B's a living way. If B's a chance. But I, oh. No, I'm not editing, so don way. You've b's a chance. But I, oh. No, uh, I'm not editing, so don't let me say anything else like that. Um, I was, uh, can George the fifth? Oh, so he was, he was pretty much like, if I impress dad, maybe I'll be good.

Maybe everyone will think I'm good. He'd have, it's got that kind of vibe about it, doesn't it? Yeah. Also, I have noticed, maybe it's just the things I've read. But anytime a story starts off by describing someone as charismatic, it never ends well, does it? Yeah, there was.

When that's the leading trait, someone dies. So is that charisma for something not so good? Yeah, people have been sucked into something. It's not like a leader or something like that. Someone wants to describe pretty much how it's not the victim's fault. How do they get pulled into this world? Yes, they always care as Maddie. You're about to question why someone would do this well.

I need to say they were very charismatic. Just to remind you, we all want friends. Okay. So keep in mind your need for human connection as we go into this story. So you, you know, all this experience, Stephenson has, he's putting this team together. He wants to put the flag in their climate for daddy.

So this will make dad love me. Daddy George. It's obvious you'd assume that he'd be there in the expedition as part of the team. Right? Oh, right. Yeah, for sure. Not just like controlling everything from Zoom or something. Well, no, it was more of the Zoom option. Checking in.

How you guys have a going out there? Great. Cool. I'm just sitting in front of my file at home. Yeah. And Cass used it before. Like he knows when to quit. And well, that's, I guess, he pre-quit this one.

He never even went. That's, well, I guess, if you're that charismatic, go into management. You know, you halfway there. Right. But so this is something that no one wants him to do. And then he can't even be asked doing it himself. Yeah, that's right.

So he sort of, he helped fund it. I think he all gonna, he got the cash together. Right. But yeah, he for whatever reason, he didn't go out there himself. According to Holes, those Stephenson picked the team and funded the mission. He never had any intention of joining the party himself and sent his woefully inexperienced

team north with only six months of supply and hollow assurances that the friendly Arctic would provide ample game to augment their stores until a ship picked them up the following year. No. Friendly Arctic. That's in quotations. That's what he said. The rest...

Because I really, I think Hulls maybe was overplaying the team's inexperienced a bit. A couple of them, including Fred Mora, for instance, was a relatively experienced seaman who had survived eight months on Wrangle Island. It actually survived on Wrangle Island for eight months, 70 years prior. So he's been there.

He's been there. If people have been there, how has he not, it's certainly, it must have been claimed, right? Yeah, it's just off the coast of Siberia. I don't know if it was worth it. I mean, it already had a name. Oh, the idea of claiming it is definitely, I'm guessing it's a violent thing

they're going to try and do. No, it's not an island that Britain even has its sights on. It's not like to them, they didn't see it as a useful space or anything. It was like a wilderness. So hang on, when they said they're going to go claim it then. Yes. What do they mean? They just wanted to change the color on the maps, I guess. You know, just went there and put a flag down.

So does that? And then hope that everyone else was like, yeah, that flag counts even though this is kind of already Russia. And guys already been there. Yeah. I've been in and out. I've lived there. There's a jet ski zoom around outside.

There's like a general store. There's a jet ski zoom around outside. There's a general store. Why goes a great question? Just, it would be cheaper to just print new maps and tell lies. Yeah, exactly. Just say, you're not a flier. You just gotta look. Who's gonna check? We figured, when did those girls figure out how to fake the fairy photographs?

They were children, you know? That was a similar time to this. Yeah, exactly. It would have been, they could have effected it. He also, I think it was also for scientific research, which is often the secondary reason this boat coming a year down the track to pick them up, others said, this one of those stories that isn't super well documented, so there's varying details about it. Some were like, the ship was coming to pick them up, some were saying, they were meant to be there for two years and it was gonna drop off supplies

or maybe drop off supplies and change over the crew. But anyway, as ship was meant to be coming the following year, either way. And that was all part of you. You only need six months of supplies, heaps of animals to kill and eat there. So, no stress. Anyway, I'm at home.

Remember, feed up. So if one of the guys has already been there, surely he would know if that'm at home. Remember, feed up. So, if one of the guys has already been there, surely he would know if that's a lie or not right? Yeah, that's right. Oh, no, since you live there, we've actually dropped off like 10,000 cattle. So, there's heaps of me. Yeah, it's totally different to when you were there. Oh, great, because it was barren when I was there.

Also, when he held, he would have been, yeah, he would have been 20 or 21 when he was there. Also, what held where he would have been, yeah, he would have been 20 or 21 when he was there. So I imagine when he was there, he was, he would have been a young apprentice or whatever semen. So potentially it's hard to know how much he would have actually known. Now he's going as a senior member of the party. Well, I mean, all of them have senior members. Right.

Not many of them. But he wasn't very observant as a child. Who knows? Maybe he was. Maybe he wasn't. Yeah, so Mora who survived time on Wrangle Island, that was in 1914 after the ship wreck of the Carluck, which I talked about before.

Oh, so they wrecked on that island? Yeah, oh, it wrecked near that island in ice, oh, wrecked near that on in ice, you know, the I I think it's that area does the ice just grow out from a landmass, you know, like because the water is freezing or whatever. Yeah, well, the water is freezing. Then that's ice. Yeah. So I guess maybe it was it was near the island or whatever. And also, I think pack ice drift quite a lot. Yeah. They talk about that a lot. Those sort of that was part of it. That ice drifted.

So I don't think he would have had memories of it like, oh, it's a great spot to hang out. Oh, beautiful spot. He was probably just like, oh, I'm excited to go there on purpose. Well, I thought I was an unhappy accident. This time I'll absolutely dominate. Because I'm prepared for six months at least.

Wikipedia.org suggests the explorers were handpicked by Stephenson based upon their previous experience and academic credentials. Stephenson considered those with advanced knowledge in the fields of geography and other sciences for the expedition. So Wikipedia is more like, well, that one article by Hulls was like, they're so underprepared. Wikipedia's like, now they picked a pretty good team here. Do I suppose one's looking at it

from the perspective of this is what was, this is what he did at the time. He chose prepared people and this.org site is really, really suggesting that, I don't know, the other one, it was the other article wasn't it? Yeah, Hulls. Oh, well, that's, you know, we suggesting that, um, I would have had the other one, it was the other article, wasn't it? Yeah, holes.

Oh, well, that's, you know, we know that now. Yeah. We know that we're all hopefully under prepared now. Yes, that's right. Easy to say. Yeah. Atlas Obscura. Oh, come on, Atlas Obscura.

Here was charismatic. Uh, so we're a short one member of the final five, five go. And the fifth and final member of the party was Ada Blackjack. According to Katie Serena, running for all that's interesting, though the crew was vastly under experience for the missions, Stephenson believed they were well enough equipped to manage for themselves apart from one thing. They needed a seamstress, preferably an Alaska native who spoke English. And this is where Blackjack comes in. Sorry to continue as an innu-piet woman, Indigenous to Alaska, Blackjack was expected to have

been taught survival and hunting skills. However being raised by Methodist missionaries, she was given almost no practical survival skills. She did however no English, at least enough to read the Bible. So there was an assumption made that because she was an inupient woman, she would have survival skills out in the icy wilderness, but she wasn't brought up in no way. And no one asked. It seems like it. This seems, this woman's history seems like it's just

stacks of racism on top of each other. Yep. Oh no. But I mean, doesn't that make it more satisfying that she's the badass of the story? Oh yeah. She needed money, the article goes on to say she needed money badly at the time after her husband had run out on her, leaving her with a five-year-old son.

She had nearly no money. Her son, Bennett, suffered from tuberculosis and his care was too expensive for Blackjack to manage. So upon hearing that there was an expedition that needed an English speaking Alaska native with sewing experience and was willing to pay a then unheard of 50 bucks a month, she jumped at the chance. So she took this up, she took up the option, it wasn't particularly well suited to her, but she was kind of desperate and that's why she went along.

Oh, I mean, we've all applied for a job that we thought, I don't know if I could get this. Oh, you're like, am I qualified? And then they're high, you think, well, do you know what? At this point, it's their fault. That's right. If they didn't check properly, I have the job. I did all my piece. Yeah.

It's their fault if they chose wrong. And I can't assume responsibility for that. I will only assume responsibility for my money. Thank you very much. But also she was exactly what they asked for. Yeah, she filled the job description. She didn't, I'm guessing they didn't ask and therefore she didn't know that they were assuming

a whole bunch of stuff. Yeah. So who was Ada Blackjack? Well, according to Hull Ada Blackjack? Well, according to Hulls Blackjack, wasn't her birth name. That was one of the good things her husband left her with.

It's a great name. Her original name's also great. Ada De La Tuck. She was born in 1898 in Spruce Creek, Alaska, a remote settlement north of the Arctic Circle, near the Gold Rush town of Nome, N-O-M-E, have you pronounced that? History has largely forgotten her,

though Jennifer Niven's 2004 biography, Aida Blackjack, a true story of survival in the Arctic, painted a comprehensive picture of her life. I think that story was really what brought her story into the modern mind world. I'm so glad to be part of the modern mind world. Wow, I feel like I'm there right now. Thanks so much for helping me out, you two.

Hey, sometimes you just let the man go. Let the man flounder. You never know what genius will come up from a flandering man. Yeah, mind-willed. You see his hand waving out of the water and you give him a high five. Yeah, you got this buddy. And you get scared away. What's the word I was trying to say?

Side-guest. Side-guest. Yeah, that's even better than what I was busting for. It might be. I hope that's right. If I'm not right, don't tell me. I'm not sure if a story is quiet in the zeitgeist, but it's at least in the...

It's in the Geist. I don't know what this words mean. It's in the Geist, if not the zeitgeist. The article goes on it says, at the age of 16 she married Jack Blackjack, which is amazing. Jack Blackjack. No.

A local dog Moussha, and together they had three children. A dog what, sorry? Musha, Musha? I'm assuming it's someone who Musha's dog. Oh, when you have pets, you're like, Musha. I guess so. Go.

I hope it's not actually just like smushing them into a little paste or something. Come here, fire, though. No. I'm a dog food maker. No, no, no, I'm a dog, I'm not a dog food maker. Uh, together had three children, two died young before, um, uh, Bennett came along. Uh, to the bandit blackjack.

Yes. That's a great name too. Very good. But then Jack deserted Ada on the Seaward Peninsula in 1921. The abandoned Blackjack, this is what it's called. You need a sense yourself. Because there was another story, another article suggested he drowned. But this one suggests he just left her and her kid or their kid.

And she had to walk 40 miles back to Nome with her five-year-old son, Bennett. When he was too tired to walk, she carried him, the boy suffered from tuberculosis, like I said before, and Blackjack lacked the resources to properly care for him. Distitute, she placed Bennett in a local orphanage, vowing that she would find a way to make enough money to bring him back home. It was during this time that Blackjack heard word of an expedition heading for Wrangler Island. They were seeking an Alaska native seamstress who spoke English.

That's me. Article continues. Blackjack had many misgivings about shipping out with an expedition of four men, especially as she had initially been promised, she would be one of many Alaska natives in the party. But the odd jobs of sewing and housekeeping she was picking up in Rome were never going to be enough to bring Ben at home. And the Rangel Island expedition promised a salary of $50 a month, which was huge to her then. But she rocked up ready to go, expecting there to be a bunch of other Alaskans there, and she was the only one.

So it was the five of them. There was many, there was a few families there as well. She was gonna be hanging out with sort of. Brave girl. I think at one point, yeah, the idea was that the women were gonna be sewing and that sort of stuff and the men were going to be hunting and then I guess the other four guys are just going to be concentrating on planting the flag. Doing that, that thing that with the flag, we need a bunch of guys and you get to push it into place from from flat. Yes.

I've only seen one picture. Yes, I've only seen one picture Stephenson wrote in his 1925 book about the exhibition so that gives away a bit that he survived From his father's I wouldn't want to put that together. So thanks for pointing that out He wrote a book called the adventure of Wrangel Island. It's so rich that he's writing a book For his armchair So this is from it theangle party tried to engage at Nome, some inupiate families and did so actually, but when the time came to sale, they arrived at the boat landing only at a blackjack who had been expecting to go along as a member of one of these families

engaged. One, I love the slightly flowery way of writing back then. As a member of one of those families engaged, when she found that the others had broken their bargain, she also wanted to withdraw, but was prevailed upon to go by the assurance that the ship, the silver wave, would call in at a settlement between no and wrangle to hire families in which Ada could then take her place. So she, they're like, well, we'll get some families

along the way. They did not do that. Yes. Do you think I even tried to do that? I think I said I couldn't, it's unclear, but yeah, maybe they tried. So the traveling party of five was complete. Crawford, night, mora, gaule and blackjack.

That sounds like a magic spell. They're all great names, right? Yeah. On September the 9th, 1921, the crew of five, plus a cat named Vick, set sail from... One crew of six. On the Civil Way. Come on, was that the captain? Captain Vick?

Captain Cat. So, and I'm pretty sure, I don't think that was sailing this ship. I think that would just being, they were saying this ship, I think they were just being, they were getting dropped off by the ship. Although nothing makes that all that clear either. The Silver Wave arrived on Rangel Island on September 16th, so it took a week to get there, not the longest voyage. In a dictated statement printed in Stephenson's book, Blackjack wrote,

When we got to Rangel Island, the land looked very large to me, but they said that it was only a small island. I thought at first that I would turn back, but I decided it wouldn't be fair to the boys. Soon after we arrived, I started to sow. According to an article on LitSightAlasker.org by Alexandra J. McClannahan, the island encompasses an area of about 2000 square miles. It's 80 miles long and 18 to 30 miles wide, which makes it about half the size of Puerto Rico, which is how I

like to have things measured. How many Puerto Rico's is this island? How many Puerto Rico's is this island that we're on? Do we know Australia? Yeah, I would say a lot of That is that specific. How many how many Puerto Rico's is Tasmania? I I want to know how big this small big small island is. I mean, it's pretty well. Well, 80 miles long. Matt's brought out the phone.

So it's like 10 M&M origin stories. How many Puerto Rico's would fit in Tasmania? Is it gonna know that? I doubt it. I don't know. Imagine if you're asking Google a question it's never heard before. You got a Google mark here. Oh, came up with how many times would Tasmania fit inside Victoria?

It's not a question I asked. This is why I trust only.orgers not.coms. How about you continue on and I'll work it out. Thanks so much Dave. The party planted a Canadian flag on their arrival and Crawford sent a letter back to Stephenson which was received a month later saying, arrived at Wrangle Island last night.

Letter to you contains documents. Lots of driftwood and tracks looking forward to good winter. No ice yet. This was the only word received from the party. Oh no. Because I think they just sent this letter back with the ship. There was no plan for communication apart from that. So they're out on this island without any way of getting back or communicating. So they got to the island, put a flag up and they're like, whew, time to set up camp.

Yeah. And wait a year. When you said that it was gonna be a year till like a ship picked them up, I was thinking, oh, there must be a really long travel time. It was only a week. Yeah, that's right. Just basically swim home, basically. If that's driftwood, just grab it. Yeah, just drift on the wood.

Come on. Standard one is the other one as a paddle. It's easy. Two-step process, it's fine. Oh, well, I haven't answered to the question. Oh, yes. Tasmania is seven and a half Puerto It's easy. Two-step process, it's fine. Oh well I haven't answered to the question. Oh yes. Tasmania is seven and a half Puerto Rico's. Seven and a half Puerto Rico's. So this island would be fit into Tasmania 15 times. Okay. We presume it's castes that help. Okay, okay so we're thinking one-fifteenth of Tasmania. That's what you're imagining. Okay that's pretty,

and now I also have to consider that I'm small. So if I were to stand on one-fifteenth of Tasmania. That's what you're imagining. Okay, now I also have to consider that I'm small. So if I were to stand on 115th of Tasmania, I'd be like, I can't see the end of it. Yeah. Yeah, it's bit like it's big. It's not, some articles talked about like a spec in the sea, but it's very visible on maps. You know, it's like, it's not tiny.

It's a decent chunk of. Some islands are tiny. Island. I think my great grandma grewer. Some islands are tiny. Island. I think my great grandma grew up on. Name one. Name one. Ocean Island. My great grandma grew up on there, I think, was like three kilometers by three kilometers.

No, I don't know, I'm going to have to assume you're locking. Yeah, fair enough, it's not a lot of maps, it's too small. Wow. Yeah. Oh, you know, actually, yeah, it's a real island, it's just not any map, it's just small. Yeah, it's a real island, but's just not on any map. It's just small. It's a real island, but I actually don't know how it's doing with global warming, to be honest.

Reminds me of when a guy at school said he won a World Surfing Championship. And we said, oh, cool. Can we show, I see the trophy. And he said, oh, I was too big to fit on the plane. Sort of similar to that. Only yours is small. His was too big.

Yeah, it's too small to see on a map. The island is real. It just goes to a different globe. Same guy said he got binned by a shark, but wouldn't be able to show us the scar because it was too cold. It was too cold to lift your shirt. Do you believe him?

Yeah, of course. Well, I mean, you're interesting, man. I mean, you'd be a full not to believe him. I mean, you don't become the world champion of surfing without encountering a shark or two. I'm surprised. And he had the one bite, you know, he's lucky. Yeah, only one that he told us about.

He wasn't the kind of guy who would just go around telling everyone Things that had happened to him God know what you don't want to brag. No, not that kind of character He doesn't like attention The so Stephenson's back home now claiming you know getting into the media claiming the success of the of the mission and New York Times article Ran a little while later saying, Stephenson claims Wrangler Island for Great Britain. The expedition he sent out last fall has established possession,

says explorer, timed to force all Japan. He's telling people he's like, Japan's after it. We don't get it, Japan. No proof of this at all. No one's saying Japan's not coming after it though. I already did before. I'll bet they'd probably just turn around because I saw us here. So I'd damn look at that flag. Look at that flag. Clearly there's now. No, it's the same colors as ours. We got we got to we got to get in there. Back to Japan.

Stephenson denies that this this is still from New York Times. Stephenson denies that this is still from New York Times. Stephenson denies that Russia, to whom the island is a lot on maps, has any right to it. I think once it's a lot on the map, it's got to be at least a discussion about whether or not they have a right to it. I mean, that very much, I feel like that's them showing their whole last there, just coming along and be like, you know, there's actually no reason it's theirs. It's like, buddy, do you have a reason? I mean, people from your country and your kingdom, your commonwealth aren't even claiming

they want it. The King's like, what are you talking about? All of that, does that sound like I've just read a few, like a paragraph of the article? That was the headline and subhead lines Wow just to suck you in Really feels like you've told us the whole story Well, see opposite of bearing a lead So so he's back at home comfortable. I'm picture him in front of a fire

I'm picturing him in front of a fire. Me, so was it me. Like my hug and he, honest all this. Be sure, yeah, like it's roaring, like he's got. Yeah, a coin's ringing in hot, just going, yeah, that's right. Yeah, we're having great success. Yeah, feet in socks, blanket over legs. So meanwhile, his crew is settling in on Rangel Island. Judith Stephenson's assurances,

that they would be able to easily live off the land. And the idea that there was a ship coming next year with more suppliers anyway. They only had the suppliers for the six months. And I'm like reading this gun. Ooh. And at first, the party found things pretty much as Stephenson promised.

According to Serena, with her article from the bloody, all that's interesting, the crew arrived as winter dawned, but were well stocked with enough supplies to last through the cold months. Then when the spring came, along with it came plentiful game. Throughout the summer, the crew survived by hunting and fishing. McLennan Hand continues. They stayed at first in a tent then built a snowhouse, and in the spring of 1922, the man killed more than 30 seals and 10 polar bears,

as well as geese and ducks. It's a five-person crew. Two polar bears each. Yeah. Oh, can you eat polar bears? Or maybe they were just having a go. Maybe they couldn't eat polar bears. Or maybe they, oh no, the head of samestress, maybe they were just one of the skin.

Right, that's true. You gotta think of how they keep, I mean, you're probably seeing a polar bear being like, that's the warmest guy here. I got to get in one of those. Yeah, in my head, I assume they would have packed jackets, but why is the same stress there otherwise? Why not why do you need to have things made?

Take like your jacket and then two backups or something. Yeah She's got a luxury in a five-person crew one of them's a tailor like constantly do you need those pants taken up? Yeah, she's like what are we doing? What are we doing? Maybe to make tents and stuff even those would you maybe repair and stuff. When you eat enough sealy, you're gonna need your pants let out. You're expanding. I mean, I assume it's to...

When you said that, I assume it was to make things out of fur because if you are as warm as the animals, then you've done it. You're right, but like if there's five people, it's not like they're having kids or anything. They don't have new people to look after. Once you've got enough jackets each. Well, yeah, well, Matt did say she pulled up, she started sewing. Did she then just kind of stop? Hey, did she pulled up and started sewing? What was she sewing? She had a wig on the ship. Do they turn up and they're wearing board shorts and like,

shit, blackjack, come on. Hey, anything in your need, you can buy there at Wrangler. Yeah, I've only bought carry on. So much cheaper. I bought 35 pairs of underwear in case I shoot myself 32 times, but either then I realize we're here for a year. Oh, no, I need to put it in order. Can you show me up some more underwears? Can I please have 500 pairs of underwear? So Blackjack she kept a diary. And so there's bits and pieces that are straight from her writing pen or they also had a typewriter. So one of the other different times.

But according to Blackjack, the meat seemed to be plentiful and that summer night or they also had a typewriter. So one of the other different times. But according to Blackjack, the meat seemed to be plentiful and that summer night went off by himself to explore and swam across the skeleton river. She doesn't. Oh, that's like, no, don't do that. If it's gotten that name, yes, they are white. And we're in the old times.

People, people called them as their season. Yeah, that's right. We're in the old times, people called them a zessism. Yeah, that's right. Well, he was never well again after that. Okay. That checks out. That does check out. Never well again.

What does that mean? He was sickly and they weren't sure why. Throughout the summer, the group waited for the supply boat to arrive, but Stephenson's promised boat had been unable to reach the island because of ice. I love the name of the boat. It's called the Teddy Bear. And because they didn't have any communication equipment, the Teddy Bear couldn't communicate to them that, hey, we're nearby, but we can't, we're caught in the ice. We're not gonna be able to make it. Get you better keep thinking of other plans to make it. Yeah, so maybe stock up on some meat for you later. I mean, you've got 10 bears.

You reckon you can make them last? Bears were famously good for making it through the winter. So I assume that's what that is about. So the New York Times ran a headline then saying, Arctic rescuers on the teddy bear caught in the ice. If you didn't know, you'd be like, what the fuck are you talking about? Arctic rescuers. It sounds like the editors tripping.

Do you reckon that something you kept up with? Do you reckon you could have. So in the old times, because you don't get a lot of correspondence right so you just Read the paper and every few months you'd be like oh the teddy bear would you have your favorite ships? Oh, I'm sure back then No much going on you really need something to do yeah, or you Genuinely you probably would have had something you waved off and then you'd read in the paper Yeah, okay, you got a cor went off. Yeah, I was there. You got a cork board of all there are articles on it.

Pind you a bedroom wall. So, and was that just the headline or was that? That was yeah, I only, well, I just thought it was a funny headline. But I mean the article, obviously, it's again, a lot of, it's a lot of Stephenson talking about how great everything's going on. No, we're not meant to have been able to hear from him. It's like a couple of them are reckon they're probably not enjoying the cold.

No, it's too much. So far he's had no ability to find out how they're doing. Months and months have passed. They're great, I assume. Yeah. One of them sick. Never to recover. He doesn't know that.

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Oh man. Yeah, I'm like goodness. The sickness was a mystery to the crew, but to me, it doesn't connect at all to the skeleton river. I mean, it was just coincidence because they now think he was likely suffering from a severe case of undiagnosed scurvy, Probably not a lot of lemon trees on that. You reckon he got that in skeleton river? I reckon he might have sucked all the lemon juice out.

All the vitamin C went into the sea. On January the 28th, 1923, the crew was starving and running out of options for food. I mean, it was foolish to send two people to help, and one of them is most sickly dude. Well, I assume they thought he was sick, but you know, he's not going to be sick forever and never recover with something that we haven't diagnosed. They didn't figure out that they had to put him back in the skeleton river for the skeleton to return his soul

No one called it wait for high time. They didn't know about scurvy yet So now they're starving Yes, they'll do they but they had so many 30 seals. I may aren't how quickly can you they must have been like living it up like King Yeah, you see you. Oh, there's a bit left on that one. Who cares? Throw it out. New one. Cack open a new one. Cack open a new seal.

So there's struggling running out of options. And the three quote, healthy men, go all more on Crawford left Blackjack to look after night and set off on foot to cross the Siberian ice in an attempt to find help. In her journal, Blackjack wrote, they promised that they would come back after they got to know him with a ship if they could and if they couldn't, they would come over with a dog team next winter. They left with a team of five dogs and a big slate of supplies.

So they, isn't that funny? It's like, was that the last supplies that they left with, that big slate of supplies? Just eat the dogs. Yeah, that was the, this, this is the first time these dogs have come up. Yeah. So they just, you say I need the dogs. No, I'm saying, what you're eating, the dogs, you can't get out now. Then you can't get out. Then why didn't they go with the dogs? Yeah, I get, I'm guessing it's just a space thing, but I mean, she said herself, and maybe this was her point.

Big slip of supplies, maybe that was her point in her diary, I'm pretty be honest, I'm not saying anything, but that was a pretty big slip of supplies. I don't, I'm not sure they accounted for this, but in my mind, if you're feeding dogs, you have to feed them meat, which means it's stuff that you could be eating.

Yeah, but I suppose that if they travel so fast, a cover ground that you couldn't cover it. And also, if you've got a guy who's sick and bedridden, he's maybe not surviving, they'd have to camp out in rougher conditions and like a built up snow house. I don't know, am I, you're asking questions and I just think I'm giving pretty good answers. I like him, I like him. I'm sweating.

In my mind, I know this is wrong, I wanna put that out there, but in my mind I'm like, just have everyone lie want to put that out there. But in my mind, I'm like, just have everyone lie down on the sled. So it's less air resistant. And then the dogs will be fine. Yes. And everyone keeps warm. Body warmth reigns a little bit. And then the snow slippery. Yeah. It's fine. Slide home. Find a heel. Roll. Tissue control. So they left with their team of five dogs, the big set of supplies. And those three men were never seen again. Oh my goodness.

Oh, what about the dogs? Oh, the dogs. They're still around today. Oh, do you know anything about the cat? Yeah, cat still, cat stayed at the camp. So the cat didn't go off with the cat. I survived as yeah, I'd be like thinking cat Wherever you're going. I'm going with the cats So they've gone off never seen again. Well, they heard from again. No, no, tasted again

No, I don't need them According to Serena no word of them reaching any Siberian towns was ever recorded So they just they lost out there in the ice somewhere. Should we find them? I mean, their bones, it still be out there. I mean, it's skeleton river. That's the first place I'd look. If you check skeleton river.

So now it's blackjack, this sick guy and captain cat. Yes. Hangin' out, think the cat in their structure. Yes, that's right. And of course you wouldn't want to eat the cat, but you would think about it every day, right? Yeah. And as you feed it, you'd be like, you fuck it up.

That's the thing, again, cats eat meat, which means you could be eating what the cat's eating. Do you want to be eating cat food? I mean, how long before you get into the whiskers? I don't know. I look at cat food, I think. Maybe more dog food, but some of it's stuff. Some of it looks pretty good to me.

Oh, the wet food with the jelly? Yeah, maybe not the wet food. You prefer like the dog biscuits. You like dry food. Are we going like... Sums, so chunky and calv, that's what I mean too. Help me have a slice of that. Oh, yum.

Do you want to heat it up or colds fine? Straight out of the fridge. it, that's what I'm into. Help me have a slice of that. Oh, yum. Do you want to heat it up or colds fine? Straight out the fridge. Oh, that's right. That's right, the fridge. Feel like devinor frits if it's straight out the fridge. Yeah, nice, thin slice. A little deli slice, tritz. Bit of cheese.

Bit of pepper, tomato. Fig and blue cheese. Oh, tomato sauce between just some white bread. Oh, yeah. Fantastic. I saw that's all of it. Tomato sauce just between white bread, including the dog food or just. Oh, including the dog food or just...

Oh, including the dog food. Okay, you're the start of an anime thing you like to wait. And then it was onion, I imagine. And you know, you have some of the crunchy stuff for an appetizer. Yeah, or a garnish. Or herbs.

I think, well, okay, if we're working with this, I think it's important to mix our textures to really elevate the palate. So if we've got the soft on the bottom, just maybe a little bit of the dog biscuits in it. Has croutons. Yeah, like maybe crumbed up a bit fine. Okay. So it surprises your mouth.

You're like, what are we eating? What is this? If I'm ever going on an expedition, you're coming as chef. We've got our dog food chef here. It's like if you can make me hungry based on dog food, or I reckon, I mean, I did a lot of it myself, but. It was a team effort.

We're all hungry for dog food now. Yeah. I'm going to whack it for a smack. Roll chums, chum. So Blackjack and the Unwell Knight, alone at camp. Unbeknownst to them, they're the only ones who anyone even knows what happened to them from here. Knights bedridden. So it's sort of like Blackjack and Knight are left

to fend for themselves, but really it's Blackjack is left to fend for both of them. And the cat. And the cat. Well, the cat's probably looking after itself as cats do. According to Serena, Blackjack took over the duties of the three men in addition to her own Dayin and dayin still sewing

She's still doing still making you have it's got to fill this order Wait, what are the duties she's doing? I guess she's expecting them to come Maybe they come back. Well, that'd be fun. Maybe they come back and have a spring collection You're autumn wear. So, day in and day out, she stacked wood, cared for night, hunted for food, made dinner, and tended to the camp. She was the chef and the seamstress. Right.

Recording all of her activities in a diary or typing them out on the ship's typewriter, which I love that they brought that, but not enough food supplies. Although it does sound like it, that they had enough meat to last. I mean, I don't know, I'm no meat expert, but it feels like ten-pollabers should say it a couple of years. They would have kept all right in the ice. You would have thought you could have made like a little ice box out of them. They need some food preservation experts. Yeah. I once saw someone doing survivalist stuff, and they smoked enough fish to last some six weeks. Wow.

But then they got that thing where, you know, like paradoxicals on dressing, you know, and if you get really, really cold, do you think you're hot and you take away your clothes off? Oh, yes. That can happen if you are very, very hungry as well. He ordered food enough for six weeks and then we're starving to death.

Oh, yeah. It's a thing that happens. So hungry that you think you're full. Well, I assume what it was is because he was so lacking in food, he just kept storing it and storing it, but he just didn't eat any. You think I can't eat it now? Right.

I mean, I've got to make this last. It's like me as a kid with Easter eggs. Good eat it now. Right. I mean, I've got to make this last. It's like me as a kid with Easter eggs. Good at it now. Next Easter comes around and I go, oh, double Easter eggs, is she? Yeah. According to a 1924 LA Times article, she served as Dr. Nurse Companion Servant

and Huntswoman in one. Love that. She wearing different hats for these roles. Yeah, she's so-to-self-ultimate. Yeah. According to Maclana-Han, she kept a bag of warm sand at night's feet and sowed pillows of oatmeal sack stuffed with cotton to ease his bed sores. Just sounds like she's dominating.

She's just nailing everything. Yeah, right. And she had no survival skills before. Yeah, supposedly. And she had no survival skills before. Yeah, supposedly. Amazing. I'm guessing you think a knight must be appreciating this. Yeah, for sure. Well, apparently you did not.

According to Hull, the dying man projected the rage he felt over his helplessness onto her, criticizing her constantly for not taking better care of him. Blackjack did not outwardly allow his blows to land but confided in her diary writing. He never stopped to think how much it's hard for women to take form man's place, to woodwork, and to hunt for something to eat for him,

and do weighting to his bed, and take his shit out for him. She's just like, it's so's like, how's he never really, I'm doing everything. She's so patient even in her private diary. She's like, has he ever thought about how I'm doing all the things? And he's still saying I'm not doing enough.

Yeah, it's your diary. You can just be as mean as you want. Yeah, but still still considering like, I want to be that he's mountaineant all the day. He's never stopped to think. This went on for months. Not finally succumbed to his illness though on June the 23rd, 1923.

So there was a few months of this who had worked in doing all the jobs of keeping two of them a lot. I wonder if you feel relief or you think, oh no, now I'm alone. Yeah, I mean, like you can't. No companion, but also, it was a bit of a prick. Yeah, and I was, you know,

I was having to do a lot of work to keep him going in a way that he's not happy. But I guess you'd be hoping that someone's coming to rescue you any day. Maybe that's what keeps you down. Try to get day by day. Yeah, you'd also have, you'd be hoping that someone's coming to rescue you any day. Maybe that's what keeps you trying to get day by day Yeah, you'd also have You'd have less to do and that could potentially be

Horrible right alone with nothing to do and no idea what if anyone's coming. Yeah, I mean in my life of luxury I'm like I just like cooking more if I'm cooking for another person. So I can't even imagine what this would be like She recorded the event on the camp's typewriter writing, the date of Mr. Knight's death, he died on June 23rd. I don't know what time he died though. Anyway, I'll write the date just to let Mr. Stephenson know what month he died and what date of the month. Written by Mrs. Ada Blackjack. I was just like, I don't know, I don't really care. Just in case, Devon's in one scenario. Anyway, don't know what time, sorry, I'm really busy. So not death left Blackjack is the last surviving member of the party. For someone without

any real experience in the Arctic elements, it must have been a challenging scenario to say the least, but then you have returning to her son, back in Alaska, Blackjack got to work surviving, you know? Sorry, and it continues. As she didn't have the strength to bury Knight's body, she left him in his sleeping bag and constructed a wall of boxes and old supplies around him to protect him from animals and the elements. Then she moved into the storage tent and fortified it for survival. Basically, just because it was not a pleasant place to live anymore, because it was a slowly, very slowly decaying body in there. Because it was still cold, but. Oh, he's on ice.

Yeah. Article goes on, using old supplies and boxes, she constructed a cupboard in which she kept her field glasses and ammunition as well as a gun rack where she kept her rifle and a raised platform that she could hunt from. I wish I could see this this sounds amazing. So sick I think there are photos for a woman who would spend her life terrified by polar bears isn't that amazing that's some she always had this big fear of polar bears. By two years in our journey, Ada Blackjack was a natural at tracking them. So she didn't hunt them. She tracked them to find out where other prey was so that she could hunt that,

and also to make sure they didn't get too close to her camp. There were close calls. At one point, when she was out hunting, she barely escaped and attacked from a mother polar bear in her cub. She wrote of the ordeal. Finally, I realized it was a polar bear and I was 400 yards from my tent. I turned and ran and just as hard as I could until I got to my tent. I was just about ready to faint when I got there too. Still pretty chilled about it. Hull writes, for three months, Blackjack was alone.

She learned how to set trap salua white foxes, says she learned. I mean, she taught herself. She's getting a YouTube tutorial. How do you find out how to do that? That's wild, right? Yeah, yeah, you're right, that language is wrong. She self-taught everything, self-taught tracker,

self-taught wood mechanic. Yeah, I guess some of the others, there might have been things she picked up, and then there would have been equipment around. She just figured out how to use. Yeah. So she built up that stand, so she basically had a spot to look out

and protect the camp from polar bears on watch. So she's also our own century. Yeah. Amazing. So she taught herself to shoot birds, build a platform above her shelter that so she could spot polar bears in the distance, crafted a skin boat from driftwood and stretch canvas after the one initially brought to the island was lost in a storm. She even experimented with the expedition's photography equipment, taking pictures of herself standing

outside the camp. So there's a bunch of photos. Is she just started teaching herself photography? In short, she was done pretty well for herself. Like I think it really actually, you were saying the night thing dying? Yeah, it sounds like she's excelled with that. Yeah, really. Then on August the 20th, 1923, almost two years after landing, two years, Harold Nois and his crew aboard the Donaldson arrived to rescue. Nois? Nois. That's what she was thinking.

Nois. They arrived to rescue, but rescues in inverted commas. Oh. Didn't really need rescuing. Oh, hey, great. Sorry about that. Oh, good. I was like, you knowues in inverted commas. Oh, didn't really need rescuing. Oh, hey, great. Sorry. Oh, good. Oh, yeah. I'm so like, you know, in slay for us, I mean, horrific.

Hey, do we have cat updates right now? Cat still doing fine. Yes! Cats of I, it's her and the cat. What's she talking to the cat? God, I'd be talking. Oh, I'm talking to the cat. I was thinking, as you were talking about how you would even

mentally do anything, I'm like, you just would never, you would have to keep talking yourself. Yeah, you'd Wilson it. You'd have to sing songs. Talk to the cat and then do a diary every day trying to, you know, get your thoughts out, but you're reading it out loud or something. Yeah. And just, I'm, it's kind of interesting to think how many more skills you would have learned if you were there. Yeah, no, Dave, you're right. She's been a podcasting. She might have. Just enough time. I've never just rocked up and... So they've rocked up to rescue her. Noice, Harold Noice.

He was an old... He used to work with Old Mate. I've said it in there so many times. Who's the guy? Stephenson? Stephenson. I constantly picture him in there so many times. Who's the guy? Stephenson? Stephenson. I constantly picture him in a nightcap. Yeah, he's nodding off.

Yeah, I'm nodding off. Yeah, over the long run. With a browser brand in his hand. Oh, yeah, still. Keep your goals up. Oh, over there. Yeah, fat red cheeks. What a world club.

Where's the bolt? So, so, noise and the crew arrive. And have they been sent to find them? Yeah, I think that's the idea. They know, well, I think they're assuming everyone's gonna still be there. Yeah. But rather than finding someone in dire need of rescue,

like they were anticipating, the ship's crew noted that, quote, blackjack had mastered her environment so far that it seems likely she could have lived there another year, although the isolation would have been a dreadful experience. The press dubbed Blackjack, the female Robinson Crusoe, and Holes, Robinson Crusoe, classic bookwright David.

Yeah. If you go around to that one, I'm a true. Haven't written, haven't read it. No, but it was one of those first ones that was written as if it was a true story. And publishing for a while, people were like, oh, this is the real guy. but it was one of those first ones that was written as if it was a true story. Right. And publishing it for a while people were like, oh, this is the real guy. Right.

Well, I eat a blackjack is a real person. Yes, I suppose. It's funny that it's called the female Robinson Crusoe, not the real Robinson Crusoe. Anyway, and Hulls continues, sorry, the feminist of the podcast, that to throw that in. You're a woman before you're real.

And Hulls continues, as news of the expeditions, tragic end spread, Blackjack found herself at the epicenter of a flurry of press attention, lauding her as a hero and praising her for her courage. But the quiet seems just shied away from the attention and titles, insisting that she was simply a mother who would need to get home to her son. Not all the attention was positive though, as McLeanahan writes, she was criticized by one of her rescuers for not finding a way to save Knight's life. Oh, I'm like, why didn't you just cure as scurvy? You don't know that's what he died of. You've learned everything else. Why didn't you enroll in medical school?

That's weird. I mean, I see you've got these like oat bags and warm sand to tend to him, but did you consider, I don't know, sucking the poison out of his wounds. Like, did you blood let? Always blood, blood. But maybe this is nice. So because night's parents eventually indicated her after meeting with an issuing a statement that Blackjack had done everything possible to save their son's life. On her return, Hull says, Ada was re-noted with Bennett, her son, and used her payment, which was much less than she'd been promised.

I mean, 50 a month for two years, right? Yeah. So step, I think it was even underpaid, yeah, the contract was for a year, and I think it was underpaid on even that. Do you know what the modern equivalent would be? I'd monitor it lately. Dave, can you look that up? 1921, 50 per hour, 50 dollars. Canadian dollars? I think American, US, USD. But she used that payment to seek treatment for her sons

to Berkulosis in Seattle, at the Seattle hospital. She later had a second son named Billy and returned to live in Alaska. Apparently she got into, she used some of her skills that she taught herself. She had her reindeer and stuff of reindeer, reindeer, some sort of deer. Yeah, no. Good on the correction because it's less getting into something a more continuing your natural talent. Yeah, that's right Finally developed skills. Did you find out I do have a number from official data dot org?

Who have an inflation calculator? $50 in 1921 is equivalent to just under $750 today. So that's $750 in 1921 is equivalent to just under $750 today. So that's $750 US. US? So that's, yeah. So. About $1,000 a dollar, so not.

So 12 grand. And they are underpaid on that. I mean, that's not a lot for a year's worth of work, especially when I'm sure she was doing the work at four. Yeah, should I do a name? And again, hazard pay, I think she should have included. Yeah. Yeah, so she had another she returned at another son, moved back to Alaska, but despite this seemingly happy ending, blackjacks remaining

years were tinge with pervasive sadness and poverty, while Stephenson and others are including noise profited from the story of the tragic expedition, Blackjack saw none of that money, and smear campaigns against her character later emerged claiming that she had callously refused to care for night, but like I said, night's parents said, no. Yeah, it's so weird they needed to, maybe, I don't know, yeah, I'm not sure what the motivation

there was. Again, probably racism. Yeah, jealousy, potentially. She was seen as the hero, because she was clearly the hero of the story. Yeah. Sevensons, I come, actually, actually I'm the female Roberts and Cruiser. So there might even be a bit of, you know, well, patriarchal thinking and thinking, oh, the little guy should have survived. And the woman should know.

That's right. If you could survive, why couldn't this be added? Yeah, why couldn't he? What did you do? Also, because you are a mother or a woman, therefore, no mother things. Why couldn't you make him better? You should have known how to do that Cass I don't don't want to be rude you again, but I'll do the feminizing round here. Okay, so okay. I'm so sorry

Thank you I'm that that you leave that sort of stuff for me I'm sorry. I won't take up space. Thank you. Stop taking up my space Let me lean in for a moment. People understand I don't know any listening usually. So her son, Bennett's health issues were never fully resolved and he died of a stroke in 1972 at the age of 58. Blackjack followed her son roughly a decade later,

passing away in a nursing home in Palma, Alaska, at the age of 85, and she was buried by Bennett's side. She extended his life so much though. So much, yes. And she lived to 85, she lived in 1983, she passed. I'm amazing. Oh, my God. So she would have seen parachute pants.

Yeah, the parachute pants were seen that early. Did she invent? Probably actually seen the pants. Yeah, to parachute pants, but she invented? She invented? She probably actually seemed to be. Yeah, for sure. Big influence. Actually, yeah, she based them on pollen pants. After a death, her second son, Billy spoke lovingly of his mother, saying, I consider my mother, Ada Blackjack, to be one of the most loving mothers in the world and one of the greatest heroines in the history of Arctic exploration.

She survived against all odds. It's a wonderful story that should not be lost of her self-discovery and cultural reawakening and it's a story of a mother fighting to survive to live so she could carry on with her son Bennett and help him fight the illness that was consuming him. She succeeded and I was born later. Her story of survival in the Arctic will be a great chapter in the history of the Arctic and Alaska. Time is running out and soon this chapter will fade away unless we care enough to make

a record of it. After his mother passed Billy mounted a plaque on her grave, which simply said, the heroin of Wrangle Island, which is very sweet. Well, yeah, because it's sort of like, wasn't the nicest end, but it's so, the way Billy, I just love that, except what Billy's said. That's really beautiful. And we all think we have the most loving mothers, but I mean, that goes probably right, right? Yeah.

I mean, how many of your mullers have gone to the Arctic and learned how to survive for two years in the wilderness just to try and earn 50 bucks a month? I don't think mine has. I don't have a word to it about it. I don't think I can claim that on mine either. Come on. Yeah, maybe I'm on with the top five, but yeah. Yeah, so that's pretty much the end of the report. I guess

is there the one loose end is the island, despite the flag being planted, the island has always remained as part of Russia and is now a wildlife refuge and as a fun fact according to that great website wikipedia.org, Wrangle Island is the last known place on earth where woolly mammoths survived until around 4,000 years ago. That little island, that's the last known spot where woolly mamm manas. So thinking about size relativity, woolly manas probably did think it was pretty small. Yeah, for them.

Yeah. Yeah, they're dying out everyone. That's the last spot. Yeah, shut it. Anyway, that's my report on the legendary Ada Blackjack. Oh, I absolutely loved it. Love that love. Love an Arctic story and Antarctic story

and I love survival story. And what, do you know what else we love? Love. Love. We love love, we love moms. We love, we love our happy ending. I think that is a happy ending. Like if you, if your story starts out

with a two years in the Arctic and it ends with old age death. Yeah. You're in your mid-Aidies. Yeah. Are you crazy? So yeah, quite amazing. Yeah. And I really enjoyed reading about it. It just like, where's the movie? There should be a Hollywood movie about this. I'm trying to, there's a few other people who, Chris Smith, his suggestion, when they suggest the topic, Cass, Westers can write a little bit next to say why. And this is what Chris Smith wrote. All stories of policy, survival, of fascinating.. And this time it isn't a white guy. Which that one I saw later, but my favorite one was, let me find it here, was by Jessica Bannerzak. She wrote, three in one, the story of an in-ear pit woman who in

1921 volunteered to accompany four Americans, such Canadian men on a mission to the remote Wrangle Island in Russia. They meant to claim the island for Canada, was stranded for two years, and only ate a survived biography, adventure, and a mystery? What? We love a good pitch. That's a great pitch. And anyone can suggest a topic at any time

through our website, dogoonpod.com. Yes. And there are, there's submit a topic. Submit a topic and there are thousands in there. So if there is something that makes it stand out like that, it really does help. Yeah. You've got to make it pop.

Yeah, I don't feel like it's a salad. I'm really, I really, I look at the title and then the, it's because there are some that just, they don't write anything in the white. I think this would be an interesting topic. If you're suggesting it and you can't think of a reason I've been listening to it. Yeah, anyway, thank you so much for listening,

Cass and Dave. Cass, do you wanna hang around for the second part of the show? Yeah. It's most listened as favorite part of the show. Oh, well, I'd love to join everyone for that. That would be wonderful. Right. Well, actually, it starts off with a jingle.

Basically, we think of a few of our Patreon supporters. We also, we answer a few questions. We just have a bit of fun, and it actually has a jingle, and just normally does a jingle, Dave, so you might have to do it this way, because it's a go again. Facts quote our question. You always remember the ding. Cast that must have been a full on thing to say.

That was beautiful. A jingle isn't a jingle without a dingle. That's true. I use my whole dingle. So the way this works is people can get involved going to, by going to patch on.com such to go on pod or do go on pod.com. And depending on the level you sign up to, there's different rewards and, and benefits, whatever you call them, including on,

some levels you get bonus episodes, three per month. Yeah, three per month. Yeah, three per month. There's over 100 in the back catalog now that people can listen to. So you say if I signed up to the Dugone pod patient right now, I'd immediately get access to 100 episodes. Exactly. Over 100.

I mean, that's good value. That does sound like good value. That's right, even in 1921 money, that's good value. And you can also, you get other things like access to the exclusive Facebook Patreon group and other such things. You get to voting, rights, all the topics. You know about live shows before anyone else. Get a bit of presale, get in there. Pretty much not about anything before everyone else. And in all aspects of what? Part of a cool club actually. Honestly, it it is a club slash cult. So I said, but nice.

Ah, charismatic. Yeah, exactly. Those words are both. Three of the letters in those words are the same. Club and a cult. Whoa. Oh my goodness. And what is a B, but not a T who's touching his toes? Yes, that's what I've always said. I've heard him say that.

So one of the other things you get to do is give us a fact to quote a question. You have to be on the Sydney Shindburg, Dox Memorial Edition, Rest in Peace level, or something along those lines. And if you're involved in that, you get to give us a fact to quote a question. And you also get to give yourself a title this week. I'm going to read out four, much like every other week.

And the first one comes from Drew Fawesburg, who's given himself the title of the beloved side admiral. I guess it's opposed to the dreaded rear admiral. That's funny. That's fun. Good fun. I'll let myself up to Wedgie's, willies, and the dreaded rear admiral. So Drew has given us a quote. And I don't think it's probably the least used of the three.

And Drew Forsberg's quote is, Diplomatic immunity. And that was said by the South African guy and lethal weapon too, immediately prior to said immunity being revoked by LAPD officer Danny Glover. It's a great moment in cinematic history. And I really appreciate you Drew for bringing that up. Any thoughts on that? I mean, it's just a quote. No, a big fan. Haven't seen the movie. Don't need to know. Yeah, are you familiar with that bit? No. No, well, I'm not, but it feels like I'm so glad you got to experience with the first time here.

Do you know, it feels like it feels like I've been delivered like a monster shake. You remember when monster shakes were pretty big? No. Like unicorn shakes. It pretty much be a milkshake, but you would cover the outside of the container with like syrup and... Oh, yeah. Can you pick it off? No, like they used to come in like handled jars,

like you know the Mason jars with handles on the, like dripped syrup hole on the outside and they cover it with cream and ice cream. Kinda made for Instagram. Yeah, it was more for the photo than the, exactly. It's like someone's presented me with a Monteshake. I've looked at it and thought,

I don't want to touch it, because I'm going to be sticky. And so what I've done is taken like the sour worm or whatever off the top and just eaten that and been like, you know what, that was the best bit. Diplomatic immunity. Is it you or Jess who loves to say it? I would imagine most people love to say it. I feel like you've both quoted on the show multiple times. Yeah, I feel like I haven't

said in a while, but I used to, I mean, I probably because I've forgotten, I'd forgotten about it to them, but I always loved it. Favorite bit of that movie for sure. Hands down. How's your South African cast? Can you do diplomatic immunity? Better than than me because I really feel like I used to think I could do it but maybe it was you who used to do it frequently yeah I was unconvinced by my performance there I can only say Roy Busty Roy Busty oh no I was bad what I can say to me a grudge is just a blast you pork y'all call yeah great face there. The next one comes from Rachel Johnson, who has given herself the title of Supervisor of Pipes and Pies.

Wow. Oh, okay, great. Is there a pipe that brings the pie to my gop? Pipe is just a pie with a pen. Oh my goodness. And what is a P, if not a T touch on the toes. Thank you. Oh.

Okay. So Rachel's asking a question here. The question is, last time I asked what reality TV show you'd each choose to go on. So this time I'll ask which TV quiz show or game show you'd most likely go on. And Rachel has done what I really encourage people to do. If you ask a question, please answer it yourself as well. Do you want Rachel's ant, you answer first because yours might be the same American. I know you're a big fan of this show. Definitely pointless.

Yes, Rachel. Oh my goodness. I love that show so, so much. So great show. First fell in love with it when I went to England about eight years ago and it just happened to be on during the afternoon and I made sure that I was home. I'm in a holiday where I've paid lots like all of my student money to go somewhere and I'm making sure at 4 p.m. every day I'm back in the hotel so I can watch this TV.

Yeah, but it's part of being in the culture. Exactly, I experienced it. I love Yeah, but it's part of being in the culture. Exactly. I experienced it. I love it. And now it's up on a watch episode on YouTube and stuff like that. Love it. Pointless is like the opposite of family food, yeah?

Yes, that's right. You have to try and find the most obscure answer. Love to be random. I'll live for it. So good. But do you have an answer, Cass? Have to be a quiz show specifically. Cass? Um, well, there have to be a, so it's a quiz show specifically. Yes.

Oh, well, look. Well, I reckon all game shows, sorry. Yeah, probably game show. Okay, my show. Ooh. We should go on to Keshe's castle. To Keshe's castle. Keshe's castle.

To Keshe's castle. Oh, what's that? It's the, it's more of an obstacle. It's the Japanese obstacle course. One game show. Oh, what's that? It's the... it's more of an obstacle. It's the Japanese obstacle course one. Oh, yeah, awesome. It would just be fun to get wallet by one of those, but hang on, no, let's go back family if you, family if you'd family if you'd. Oh, family if you could go on as a family. Yeah, we could be a family. Is that a louder? Yeah, well, do you know what? Oh, maybe family feeds a good one because you can go one because every now and then they'll do like a charity one or they'll do a special

so you don't have to be a family but you can be an other kind of unit. Yeah. So we could be the podcasting Melbourne family. I like that. Well, obviously for copyright reasons has nothing to do with family feud but at the start of last year, do you remember

we had family food? Oh. Which was a similarly different. different game show in some ways, but where we actually had Sandspans radio versus planet broadcasting. And I'd exist somewhere. It's in Musics is somewhere, we filmed the video of it,

and I hosted it with Jackson Bailey. That was so fun, we raised money for the bushfires. Yeah, I remember the old tragedy of yours. My goodness, so that was sort of January, February last year before the bushfires. Yeah, I also remember the old tragedy of your... My goodness, so that was sort of January, February last year, before the world changed. But that's a great answer. I love the Japanese game show, Matt. Yeah, this is a tricky one. I mean, they're all saying, fun.

I'd love to be on Wheel of Fortune saying, top dollar. You love dollar. I can see that sort of stuff real funny. When a quiz show is around for so long that there's like cliches that come up. And finale, Boo-yah. What about no deal? Imagine saying no deal to a suitcase.

No deal, Andrew, no deal. No deal. Lock it in Eddie. Yeah, but yeah, that's right. Who wants to be a millionaire? Um, all right, but I love, I think like you, Dave, I love the really weird, daggy English ones.

Oh, like eggheads. Eggheads, it just looks like a show where they don't realize TV cameras are all. It really doesn't. I was like, they have no, do they know people are watching? What's eggheads? There's a team of four, like trivia masters. Yeah, they're the eggheads. And then a team of four challenges them.

And the A.H. is nearly always a win. But then what's the opposite of charisma? Because that's everyone on that show. If the A.K. competence. If I'm one of the A.K. heads in maths is also one of he gets an answer wrong. I'm like, oh, yes. All right, I knew that one.

Like it's so brutal to each other. Yeah, it's a real strange vibe that one. But there's so many of those English ones that we don't get. But only the tipping point. What's that one? That's on in afternoon TV, at Moment in Australia, where it's a quiz show, and then you get tokens

that drop in this big machine. It looks like something you play at time zone or something. Right, and it's pretty good. They bounce down and you want them to knock over the edge and every token that ends up landing over the tipping point He had a grand or something you get to keep that token Oh one six tokens so weird. It's like light flashing lights and you know, they zoom heart crash zoom and then it's just the same sort of Just

Couple of people talking like they don't realize the cameras are on. You know, they're just so sort of mumbling and love it. So good. Yeah, I got. I wish we had more of a game show culture here because my dream would be to just come up with a concept for one. Yeah. I think we do have a little bit of a game show culture.

I think we're just maybe we sit outside of it. Maybe it's not the culture we want. You want to set up a new game show. A rival game you always do. Basically see what's successful in like European market and bring it over here and do an adaptation. Yeah, we franchise. But I'd love to come up with something new. Right. Just love the idea of it. Don't care who hosted just want to do the concept. I did like I did like we did a countdown here. We did letters and numbers and that was nice. Yeah. Yeah.

You still carry gentle vibes. What a fun. Our Bake Off shows, I guess it's not really a quiz or a quiz. David Assel. I had no idea a little bit was the, he was the... Our letters and numbers person. Dictionary guy. Fantastic work.

That was, that had the vibe of the English shows a little bit. Yeah. That's sort of, it's just very chilled out. A lot of ideas there, but it didn't have any of the crash rooms or anything that Tipping Point adds. Tipping Point of Bazaar dichotomy of styles. And Rachel's answer, tell me, we're going on pointless together

because you're playing pairs. Yeah, great, I think that makes sense. Great question, thank you so much, Rachel. No, what's Rachel? That was pointless, yeah. I think that makes sense. Great question. Thank you so much, Rachel. No, what's Rachel? That was pointless, yeah. I didn't already say that. Yeah, so you implied, but I thought there might be an explanation for Rachel.

No, no explanation, just. Yeah, great. So hopefully Rachel, do you want to do pointless? I would. I've wanted to sign to it. Could go and pointless together. I think that's a great idea. That'd be a lot of fun.

Thank you so much for that question, Rachel. I'd really, I'd be up for going on any quizzes. I'd quite a lot of, I'd like to quit. on any quizzes. I'd quite like it, I like it. They're fun. I often wonder what my topic would be on hard quiz. Do you guys ever wonder this? Yeah, hard quiz. That's an Australian one.

That's a good one. I think that's an Aussie creation. But it is very similar to others, right? What did that one of Peter Berner used to host? The Einstein factor. Not that far off that one. It's similar to that, but with a sassy host of Peter Berner used to host? Oh, the Einstein factor. Not that far off that. It's similar to that, but with a sassy host. Tom Wilson, who does a great job?

Well, Peter Berner, sassy enough for you. Not the way that Tom is. Yeah. Yes. I had another thought there, it does not matter at all. Thank you, Rachel. This next one come, did you ask me something that I just ignored?

Yeah, your expert for topic. Oh, sorry. Your expert topic would be on hard quiz. I don't I'm not I'm not sure It could depending on the way it would be whatever I just read about maybe Tism But I don't even think I'd probably they'd be real Tism like hard quits Yeah, but what you do you have to you pick your of you get your date and you'd be like all right I'm studying that yeah study it up. Yeah No, but I guess I didn't consider that of course you'd have lead up time I whenever I imagine hard hard quiz. I always imagine I'm I'd be on the spot immediately Bro like quick we're gonna quiz you or something obscure my oh no sure sure sure like I love the Simpsons

But it's so broad. Yeah, I Very difficult. So many things. You'd have to say season three. Yeah, you would say three, episode one is first 15 minutes. No, 15 seconds. The opening sequence, I know, we're off by heart. Yeah, I've got all the questions to be like on frame 72. What color hair? Great. My favorite frame, actually, I think it you Tom, I'll take this one. Can you just name the pantone color of the crusty family's hair? Oh, absolutely, I can. Did you come up with that case? I look, if I were put in a situation

where I had to go on hard quiz tomorrow, I'd probably be like, Sans Pants Radio, the company I work for, I'm like, I reckon I reckon I know more than most about that, but I don't know the most, you know? I could still fail. But nothing feels as good as watching a hard quiz and getting one of the questions right? Oh, from someone else's category. Oh my god. Oh, my goodness, I do know about 1950s kettles or something. Okay, so the next one comes from Nicole de Morton, oh, from Horsham and Vic, not everyone

puts in their place there, so I love that Nicole. Good McDonald's there. That's good intel. Nicole's given herself the title of probably fucking accounts payable as usual, but honestly it's fine, someone has to do it, just as long as there's free biscuits. I mean Nicole you get to choose But I love that I love an accounts payable with a bit of sass I remember I like we've got good biscuits like full assorted creams. Oh, yeah. I'm Sola now for the assorted. I love Monte Carlo. Yeah, well feels like

Thanks to number two final take a Delta cream, whatever Delta cream, that's slipping down the list. But we're not as as orange cream. Orange cream. Orange slice. Orange slice. That what is. Yeah, and what's the other one? The take a shot of the biscuit world. Yeah, it's always left. Yeah, shop shop. It's always left. Yeah, shop, shop or greens are always left. No, orange slices are always left. Oh, yeah.

But that's it, okay. You gotta dedicate some secret time to learning to love the leftovers. That's smart, yeah. I personally love a Brazil nut, but I would never tell anyone. Great, you'd be like, oh gosh. Another Brazil nut for me, inside do you like, yes. Well, you just join in eating all the rest of the nuts.

You see, your favorite biscuit isn't the popular biscuit. Yeah, that's a good place to be. Be quiet. Be quiet that that's your favorite biscuit. You eat the other biscuits with everyone else. And then you go to play the biscuits just for you. Yeah, that's good. Do you really think the key to the Monte Carlo

is whatever that red outside? Why don't I make the whole biscuit like that? Why don't they make the whole biscuit out of the red layer? I think that would be great. So Nicole's got a question as well. Here it is, it's longer. Did you know that it has been scientifically proven to asterisk that we'll come back to?

That accounts payable is the one job that no human being has ever planned to do. They just end up there, wallowing in deep, a deep pit of regret. It's not even real accounting, just admin with a lot more migraines and instances of, as per my previous email. Just admin with a lot more migraines and instances of As per my previous email

And this was the double asterisk Disclaimer the science is just my own anecdotal study of noting the number of times. I've wanted to die by approximately 2 15 p.m. I'm curious is there a job you would absolutely never do even if there was no other option? Oh, so many. Yeah. Bricklayer. Uh, uh, creator. See, any job where I could also get ripped. Yeah. Oh, my exercise, I just don't know exercise.

It's a dental exercise is the way to go. You just need to make sure that you save so that you can quit before your body breaks. Window washer for high rise? Terrifying, couldn't do that. And these are, I think I was like, I surgeon or something, but I guess there's other reasons why I can't do that. Yeah.

Yeah, but I think all the ones you've said seem like just they're all good jobs. I'm not throwing shade on these people. No, I know, but I just feel like that would be good jobs to do for me and my bod. I would not be, I'd just die one. You bod a change for a quiz. You'd become ripped one again. Oh my goodness. You're in the end.

And I could be a brickie. I reckon you could be a brickie or I think it could be a brick. Oh Yeah, you get a get a technique down basically this I don't want it this to be misconstrued This is the ultimate respect to the brickie by me saying I could never do what you do No, I don't know the anyone was interpreting that as you Shit job I think I understood you to be like I can't do it I feel like you just start small, small bricks, some Lego.

I work your way up to do it. I'm really bad at Lego, I always have been. What how? Say what? I don't enjoy it. I don't like following instructions. Okay. But do you have fun when you play with Lego?

Yeah, I like building my own stuff. That's a skill. It always becomes a block. I suppose that would be an issue if you would task with house and you were like, oh yeah, I built my own stuff. That's a skill. It always becomes a block. I suppose that would be an issue if you would task with house and you were like, no. Yeah, no, I want it to be a block. We really just need a wall here, mate. Well, you get a block. It's a real thick wall.

Uh, yeah, cast job you would never do. Job I would never do. Job I would never do. Yeah. Oh. What about like, you know, abattoir work or something like that? I think I'd find that a bit hard. Oh, yeah. I was trying to, yeah.

I was the thing, even the other end, being a vet would be very difficult because you have to deal with so many sick animals. Right. I'd find that difficult. I've heard that a lot of vet work is putting animals down. Yeah, I find that very... Yeah.

Any job that involved killing an animal or a person, like I wouldn't be good at pushing the button. Right. I know there's a lot of jobs involved killing people, but I guess hitman. Or woman. Would you ever be hit man such a woman? Yes, I don't think I'd take up the role of his person Yeah, I don't know

I just don't want to kill anyone What was the job accounts payable? That's just that's invoicing I've never understood so there's accounts payable and there's accounts receivable and in my mind So if I'm business right yeah, and I'm accounts payable. Oh my god. Okay, you pay for to me, but if I'm accounts receivable I'm receiving the money. Yeah, how How does that work? Receiving the money and you're paying the money. I Wanted an admin job where I had to say

that I was accounts payable or accounts receivable, just to put everything through the system. Like nothing, don't do what's happening. It was just the way it went through it was a small business. But I still can't remember. I did that job. Oh no. Well, I imagine Nicole is fuming right now.

Oh. Yeah, that's Nicole is fuming right now. Yeah, that's right. Her area of expertise on the other side of the slide. So it's a sledge hard quiz. I just thought you were going to more likely win. Yeah. So did you have an answer there, Cass? No animal killing.

Or people killing. Dave's no brick laying. He'd love to kill animals. Be happy to do that. Yeah, that's right. But as long as I don't have to kill them with bricks. And I don't want any. He's not laying brick into skulls. That counts. Nima? I'm, yeah, I'm thinking like surgeons. So. But yeah, there's, there's reason I just never would be able to do that. I don't think of a job. I don't believe in yourself. Neither of you believing in yourself.

I also just want to be doctor because I don't like medical stuff like. I believe in yourself. Neither of you believing in yourself. I also just want to be a doctor because I don't like medical stuff. I find it a bit... Yeah, I know the TV show is come on. I'm like, who's watching this? It's a people who like, I love seeing people sick. I don't know. That's how they get their jolly. So I don't know.

That's a high-riding TV show. Sick people in Australia anyway. Sick people MD or whatever it's cool. Oh, yeah. Is that the one where they're like, careful, this might be pretty distressing. You're like, all right and it's like this person's dying. You're like, oh, and you're not, you can't save them. Well, I hope their family got a lot of money.

Yeah. Okay. That's all, there's all you can think of. You're like, well, I hope they got a lot of money and that has genuinely helped them. Carve costs. Yeah. Is there anything else?

Yeah. I'm being the editor on that TV show. That's a job I wouldn't do. Oh. I need to watch a lot of footage for that. Probably the cameraman even more. Or woman. No, but I mean, anyway.

And finally, from Murray Somerville, who Murray's given himself the title of Senior Head Illustrator of Random Doo Go On Moments 2021. And Murray's offered us a... A great artist too, by the way. You posted in the Facebook group a lot. Oh, you love the style. We're talking about the style. Love that style.

I wish we had him all just to post publicly. I, whenever I say it, my good, do you mind if we post this on our feed? Yeah, a few times we have posted on our Instagram page. Do you want to have a look? No. That's really, really good. They should all be out there.

They'll all on the, sorry, what was, what was the handle for that Instagram page? Mm, I do go on part. I do go on part. I do go on part. I do go on part. Check it out on pod. I do go on pod. Check it out everybody. Randy,

Give it a follow and you'll find your Randy some of it. That's right. What an artist. And this is Murray's Randy. I can just call him Randy. I'm so sorry. Murray that might have been, I thought that was just a random. Randy,

sorry, Murray. I don't know. That's exciting, Murray. You gave yourself a title. You got a title. That's right. You're Randy some, I don't know. That's exciting, Murray. You gave yourself a title, you got a title. That's right, you read me some. Read me. All right, what's he got?

Fact-quad-quad-quad question. Fact. And the fact is, I recently started working in an opera company and started to hear people say, chukers before a show. I soon found out that wishing and one another good luck before performance is actually bad luck. Instead, you say say chookers. This is an Aussie slang and dates to the 1900s when a full house meant that the cast would be given chicken to eat after the show. Before curtain up

someone would count how many people were in the audience if there were a lot. The person counting would yell chookers to let the cast know they wouldn't go hungry. So chookers came to me in good luck. I didn't write, yeah, in my head that wasn't an Australian only thing, but it... Yeah. There you go. That's awesome.

I've dabbled in the theater, and I assumed that chukas was the thing you said to everyone, but that was because all my friends were also in the theater. So, I would come out into other social circles and be like, chukas, and it would make no sense. That's what I was like, are you talking about? Definitely, it's linked in a stand-up. Stand-up is a big thing.

That people will say it to you sometimes. Well, that's what got me, because I started saying it around people who did comedy gigs and at work, where we do podcasting, we do gigs of podcasting. And everyone was like, they accepted it. Yeah. I went out to talk to people with desk jobs.

That's like, what are you talking to me about? I'm like, you know, when you're in an off-money, you buy chicken. Do you think, you know, in accounts payable, they say, trickers? Yeah, I think so. When are we in a chicken dinner? So, do they just break a leg's another classic one?

Maybe that's just, is it? I don't know where that comes from though. Murray, you've got a task for next. In the opera, do they also say toy? Toy. Anyway, may I put that before? Maybe an baby opera. Yeah, maybe toy.

Toy. All right. Or a word similar to that, anyway. Cass, would you believe we've only just begun this second part of the show? Let's whiz through this. We are, honestly, this is to be an epically long episode. We also love to thank some of our supporters.

And normally it just comes up with a little game where something based on the show topic, we attach to each person. So maybe if the topic was about dogs, we might give everyone a dog name. Okay. Just as better at it than me, obviously. That's why it's not my role.

Okay. Do you have an idea there? Something based on... Okay, if we were all stranded on the island together, what's the job you take up? Okay. We all get one usual job, you know? Seem sure it's taken. Yep, seems shirt is taken.

But all the rest of her jobs need to be divvied because she's working really hard and we wanna give Mama break, you know? Sounds fantastic. Maybe I'm gonna construct the cupboard, you know? But we still got, you know, the gun rack, we need wound tenders. Okay, all right, how about this Dave?

We'll do, you and I'll do five each. Cass is gonna come up with all the jobs. She feels ready to go. Okay, great, great, great. So I'll kick off with the first five. If that makes you feel okay Dave, I'd start it, send it with a way that didn't have an easy way to finish it.

If that makes you feel okay Dave. Um, I guess. So firstly, I'd love to thank from Montessano in Washington in the United States. Alice Bar or Bear, BA-W-E with an accent. Where's the accent? Over the E. Ah. The upward going on.

Beret. Beret, okay. Alice, Beret or Bear or Barry. Beret. Beret, okay. Alice, Beret or Ber, or Barry or Beret. Alice. What's Alice's job cast? Alice will be making based on their name. They will be assisting A to the seamstress in constructing polar bear hats or Beret. Wow. in constructing polar bear hats or berets. Whoa.

That is a bad race. Out of the heads or just out of any part of the what, fair? I think Alice is pretty resourceful. Yeah. And Alice is not going to let any part of the polar bear go to waste. Every part of the polar bear will be used to make a different beret. Wow, so you might have a Scroat beret first. Yes, Scroat beret.

Beber-ray, no bold beable have a bare head with these beber-rays. Why couldn't I stop them? She wore a Scroo-temi-bur-ray. The kind fan. Hit that, in tactic. Still. Ah, tick fuck. All right, thank you so much to Alice and apologies

for the last little bit there. I'd also love to thank from Burnaby in British Columbia and Canada, I think. Rebecca Sue, HSU, Sue. What do you, what's Rebecca? From Burnaby? Rebecca from Burnaby. Oh, fire duty. Fire duty. Rebecca will be starting and ending the fire. Ending it. Yeah. I will end you fire.

It is Rebecca's choice when the fire starts and ends. None of us get a say. That's not our job. We don't want to have a say. That's all Rebecca On your Rebecca, I believe in you start that fire Rebecca shoe According according to How do you how to pronounce on YouTube? Thanks so much Rebecca shoe great name love it And great work there with the fire putting in and putting out. And I would also have to thank from Coburg, just up the road in Victoria, Australia. Alex Tilly.

Alex Tilly, what's Alex Tilly up to at camp in the Arctic? Now, Alex ising the land. This, I'm gonna be real, not fruitful. But I think it's important that we all have work to do. And I'm glad Alex has a job. What is tilling the land? Oh, it's when you sort of turn over the soil to grow crops. So Kat Stevens album, T for the Tillerman,

is that someone giving dinner for the person who's tilling the land? I always thought it was the beverage of T. Oh, but I don't know. I don't know if a Tillerman is that. I mean all good questions though, aren't they? Yeah, oh god, I'll be full of them. Yeah, we're full of something. All CUNE away. I've got a lot of eyes in me as well, but Alex, Tilla, way, Tilla, way, fantastic work, we need it. It will. And, you know, if we, if we till enough of the land, maybe some of the snow is going to melt a bit.

And maybe it will come to fruition. If the land is able to be toned over over enough or you're going to destroy the dirt. Really no middle ground with this one. Either nothing will ever grow again or you will make something grow for the first time in many years. Worth taking a part. And a centitainment for the rest of us. So thank you, Alex. Thank you, Alex.

Next I'd love to thank from Ashford in Great Britain. Someone with a fantastically British sounding name, Elliott Crosby McCulloch. Oh, that's fun. That's very British to me. That's phenomenal. Elliott's gonna be in charge of beverages. Oh, you gotta stay hydrated.

Gotta stay hydrated, gotta have fun with it. Thank you, is there any creaming sodas? Well, that's up to Elliot. I think at this point, maybe there is going to be some theatrics we are in the wilderness. So maybe Elliot is doing some artisanal things with water. So maybe we're collecting ice chips to melt slowly over the water, maybe we can all become

familiar of water. We can see what the difference between the snow, water, the ice water, one that we collect off of, do we leaves? Right, I love this. Yeah. Water semiliay, Elliott. On taste testing.

Yep, it will imagine if you, because you know how you go to different people's houses, and you're like, some people have good water and some people have bad water. This pauses on. Yeah. Yeah. This porous is odd. What? Sure.

Yeah, how some taps a good, take the water tastes better? Yeah. Yeah, some people have good water at their house and some people know that a lot of states and cities here have terrible water. I think we need Rachel Johnson to get involved there as the supervisor of pipes and pies.

I think the pipe will be fine. Yeah, that is that is all pipe. So I'd love to think once more, Alice Rebecca, Alex, Elliott, and finally, Bronn here. Is it, if I got one more, dammit, I can't count from Portland, Oregon, in the United States, I'd love to think, Bron, stole Engelsen. What's Bron up to? Bron is in charge of meat tenderization. Okay. There's a lot of meat. Well, that's the thing, there's a lot of meat.

And when we're looking at animals in the Arctic, there's gonna be a lot of different fat content, fat concentrations, and we're gonna see what we can do. So Bron does have a little bit of a dangerous job. Bron is going to attempt to reg of a dangerous job. Bronn is going to attempt to reguse some polar bear. Regue? Wow. Sorry, I mean wag-wag-you. Oh, wag-you. Not regue. I mean, regue will come later, but try and massage a polar bear until all of the blubber ripples into the meat and it's a lovely, melty treat for you.

Is it while the polar bear's still alive? Yeah. Bronn's really taking them for the whole team and it is for the sake of taste buds. We do have, we do have someone else just for the regular feeds, but bronze for when we want to treat ourselves. That's, yeah, great. I want to, I want to, yeah. I want it because I, I never really, obviously, I have to put this into practice, but, so I don't, I'm not an, I'm not an meat eater per se.

Yeah. So I wonder how long would take me to place like this before I just get into polar bear. Or is it you're going to have alternative options? Oh, Bron is specifically on meat, that is a rare expertise. Maybe someone from Dave's crew can help with vegetation, but we don't know. I think, well, I don't know. I can't answer that for you. Yeah, because that's the thing. You'd be hungry.

And it's the polar bears there. Yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Waste not what not. Waste not what not. I mean, I've always said that. I mean, if you go, we're not gonna waste you, so.

Right. Yeah, you'll eat me. Yeah. And I think we should eat each other. But, grain fed, I'll, you know, you get a pretty good pros, me. you wait me. Yeah, and I think we should eat it up grain fed I'll you know you get a pretty good cross me That's good that Matt well goes to it. Yeah Thank you so that's so nice you like yeah, I am tenderizing you That's the process. Oh, yeah, I'll be dead by it. I'm gonna get tender as my car

It's really been playing up. Yeah, if you find yourself out in the wilderness and you're all getting pretty hungry and then one of your friends starts getting handsy, you're next. Yeah, you're on the chopping block. All right, I would like to thank from Marrero in Louisiana.

I'm a shout-out Allen, a body junior. Oh, it's a shout-out. Well, yeah, there's a big shout out too. So we're sorry It's my turn to thank a couple of people is what we're doing. So Alan also gets a role But it's Alan a body or a baby maybe this over there junior love a junior Ah, what's Alan doing around our camp? Alan's filling trees Love that. Yep. And then just, is Alan meant to be felling trees?

Is that helpful to us? Or is Alan on a rampage? Yeah, just taking stuff. Alan hates trees. Alan came here to do the opposite of a wreck to flag. It's to take down any standing structure. but do the opposite of a recta flag. It's to take down any standing structure. We do have other members of the crew who will make use of the trees,

but no, Alan, Alan is simply getting ripped from felling the trees. And we get the wood gets used, you know? We need fires. Yes. Yeah, but I mean, Rocky Punch Me, Alan Fels Trees. Yeah. You gotta choose, hey, get ripped. Well, that's great.

If we've got Alan Felling the Trees, it means that over, planes overhead can see us, which is good. That helps us. Someone's noticing deforestation. People are pretty on top of that these days. That gets us seen faster. And then we've got all this wood, more wood than we know it to deal with. You know, maybe Bronze is going to smoke some meat, you know, with wood chips.

So we take down, we'll Allen gets rid of so much of the forest that protests start kicking off. And then we just use one of the protestors' mobile phones to call for help. Yeah, the protestors come over, you're like, okay, we'll stop Allen. If you take me home, please, please let me come on your plane. Oh God. Yeah, this is a good plan. Alan's just saved the day. Yeah, because we look at Alan and like, we are leaving Alan behind, I imagine.

We go to leave and Alan's like, no, my place is here, my work isn't done. This tree, Alan's full of trees. And he turns and he takes on all the protesters. Yeah, we're like, Alan, we don't need the wood. We turn around. It's like, it was never about the wood. You go. I'll hold him off. No, a very mad idea, we're all good to go.

No, it's time for me to fell fellas Well, I'd like to thank now from the greatest of Britons place called Bangor and that is the location for Sasha or Sasha eyes and stat Sashar eyes and stat Sasha or Sasha is on vegetation It is mainly leaves at this point Alan does bring down a lot of leaves from up high, which is good. From out pie.

Because the trees go into the sky. Oh, high pies. Up, out pie. Out pie. Out, oh. Elpon, do we try to say that? I thought Cassette out pie. Oh, up high.

But she said, oh, not our pie, our pie. Up, hi. This what? So I think I'm really hungry for pie. We did it. And honestly, the pie wasn't even mentioned. And usually I'm the pie, but Matt is. Every single time food has come up,

I have salivated a little bit. Yeah, I'm real hungry. It was embarrassing when it was dog food, but it was fine when I was talking about wagyu. But now it it's wise that don't exist. Sasha Eisenstatt, thank you so much. We appreciate that and great to have you on board. I would like to thank now from Emory ville in California, and sheka sing and sheka sing. And sheka's on construction. Great. Yeah. Is that real construction? Is that like, like,

sopranos style? Another on waist management. But you know, when you have, when someone says, oh, working construction. I think it's a front. That's a front. You know, you sus on everyone who works in construction.

I mean, what, why else do you think I want to avoid being a bricklayer if you know what I mean? Ah. Yeah, the foundations of this house are very wonicky. Yeah, I'm really appreciate that you guys let me feel so comfortable. I can try your material.

I loved it. Anytime you get a pun, we love. Obviously, Matt, big pun king. I don't understand puns. I accidentally do them sometimes. Yeah, maybe so you're saying they people sort of construct like concrete shoes and that sort of stuff. That's what you're saying. Yeah, exactly. You don't want to be wearing those. So thank you so much, Anne Chica, and I'm not going to

double cross you. From Pennsylvania now, from Brian's, how do I say this? Now, from Brian's, how do I say this? Brian Xville, Brian Xville. Beautiful, great. I'm not heard of it, but I love it. I would like to thank Ian Clansack. Ian Clansack from Pennsylvania. Ian's doing the video diaries. Now, we don't have the technology now,

but Ian's documenting everything that they can, making sure that they write everything down in script form. Oh, right, okay. Ian thinks it's gonna be a play, really we're gonna find it in 50 years and turn it into a cinema. So we can do a paper at it. Oh, absolutely, yeah.

Very efficient. Yeah, we do have other members who were on first draft from revision, but Ian's taking it down on the front lines. This is good news. Very happy about this. Thanks Ian. Playwright, slash documentary and I like it.

And finally I'd like to thank from Perth right here in Western Australia. And by that I mean right here in Australia. We're not at Western Australia. But Sarah, Wittum or Wittum, thank you so much Sarah. Now, fine a roll, Cass. What do we need? What's left? I tell you, you're either with him or you're against him. A final roll, Cass. What do we need? What's left?

I tell you, you're either with them or you're against them. Am I right? Is that a pun? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Thank you so much for making me feel comfortable. Right? Beautiful stuff. And big thank you to Sarah, most dangerous job of all testing berries we find.

Oh, that is a classic treat. We found a big red one. That is a classic phrase. We found a big red one. That is a, yeah. Yeah. Why is one that looks so good and juicy? Well, that's the thing we got strawberries and raspberries and blueberries.

What are we testing for the noodles? I don't think you've anything read that's poison. Yeah. I can think of red things that are venomous, but what red thing is poison? Surely we just don't eat them. Yeah, but I don't even know about them. And I know everything. You know, every fruit.

And every fruit and berry. No, red ones are always the classic. I mean, there's a thing in nature to say, do not eat this. Why does strawberries do? Reds, the idea is to not eat it. Yeah, it's a warning. So warning for all animals.

It's like, it's why those really poisonous frogs at that color, because if you eat them, you die. Right. Redback spiders, they're venomous. I'm afraid that Sarah's eating them all. Hey Sarah, eat this frog. It's not just berry judicie, it's anything red. Yeah.

Not a red duty. Oh, not another redback. Oh, not another red back. Well, thank you so much to those supporters. There's only one last thing we got to do, Cass. Would you believe it? The segment lives on. We induct a few people in our tripped-itch club. Ooh.

Supporters have been on the shout-out level for three is straight, get inducted to this very exclusive section. I feel like a Hall of Fame. Oh my gosh. Slap. Club. We've got a full bar set up in there. We have live fame. Oh my gosh. A lot. A club. We've got a full bar set up in there.

We have live music. We have drinks. We have all derves. And once you're in, you're in for life. Are you up for Philly and Jess's role here as well? Yes. What she would normally do is come up with an or derv or a food thing that's usually related to the topic and a drink or cocktail.

Okay. While I'm on the door, I've got the door list here. I'm going to read out the names. Then Dave normally hips them up. Yep. He's also booked a band. Who have you booked this week? Well, we've got a classic Icelandic. We've got Bjorks Lashbjörk.

Wow. Oh, brilliant. So, thank you so much. Probably the most famous Icelander. Yeah, I would say it say definitely up there famous. I See your Ross Yeah, they're also from there famous Iceland people if you Google it Your comes up as number one for playing family food

Yeah, she's definitely on the board Arts and yeah, do you have what are you thinking for food and drink? So is it one per new entrance? No, it's just one for everyone. The menu grows every week. Everything that Jess has already come up with is available. Brilliant. But there's a new item to the menu.

We have 600 people working in the kitchen. That is brilliant. And it's so many more than we had when we were you know out in the out in the Arctic so we're doing an all-devin cocktail yeah based on what we found okay so we will the cocktail will be based on ice water fantastic yeah it is gonna have an ash rim from the fire beautiful and it will also you know what no the cocktail is maybe the oat milk from the bag. Used to care for the sick man. Oh.

Foot milk. Mm. Foot milk. So it's going to be oat milk made from dripped ice water. From our lovely, I've forgotten which of our delightful helpers is on the water simileae roll. Important roll. A really important roll. They've collected the ice water. They've gotten the oats. Important role. A really important role.

They've collected the ice water. They've gotten the oats. Oh, it's an oatmeal thing. It's got an ash rim. So let's think, oh, it's feeling like toast. It's feeling, I'm feeling toast vibes. What goes with toast? Mama laid jam.

That is good. Okay, so we're going to get jam made out of the red berries that Sarah has tested. And we are going to get jam made out of the red berries that Sarah has tested. And we are going to distill, oh, actually, the alcohol is going to be brandy and it's going to be from the, oh, sand, he's sent, sent to, the man by the fire with the night cap.

Yes. Oh, Stephenson. Stephenson, it's going to be Stephenson's brandy and it's going to taste like a boozy toast with marmalade. Oh, that sounds great. I think Jess said water last time, so. Okay.

Love that. Love the thought that's gone into that fantastic and maybe a little food on the side. Maybe the toast to dip it in. Just literal toast. Yeah, and the toast is gonna be spread with massage polo bear wagyu. Oh, fantastic. Oh, thank goodness.

I'm glad we're making use of a 10 colo bear carcasses that we have delivered. Yeah, that's just this week. We're definitely gonna run out of the wagyu about half a third and it will be replaced with chum. And no one's gonna know. No, no. So there are only four inductees this week and the way this is going to work, Cass, is

I'll say their name, Dave then hops them up. He's dead. So you picture them. They're running into the club. I'm just going to develop it rope. Dave's hopping them up. But Dave is a sensitive soul and he doesn't always feel like he's done the best hype job. So then your job is to hype Dave up every hot man needs a hype woman

Thank you so much behind every hype man is a hype woman beautifully said Okay, so Let's get into it. We this is this is nice and fuss just like the rest of the show very snappy I'm feeling good. Who we welcome in tonight. All right. Let me check this guest list Matt Read him out. Here we go. All right from Bell Davis in Western Australia. It's Samuel Limberry Limber up for limber. Am I right? Yeah? Jave. Oh my god out here with the the finger guns wow put them away, buddy

We don't have a license to carry those Prap, Prap, thank you so much. The next person is from address unknown and surname unknown. It's Aiden Oh a Faden without Aiden. Thank goodness he's here. Oh God and we'd be lost without you two days From this yeah All of right in great Britain. It's Matt Baba. Oh Habara a fever for Baba. Oh God and days got such a presence like that remember the cartoon with the elephant named Baba Finally from a horse in Victoria Australia. It's Lauren Andrew in Victoria, Australia, it's Lauren Andrew. Oh.

Awesome. I was feeling portioned before you turned up tonight. Oh, I know we all richer for your company day. Yeah, thank you. I love it. It's like, I'm being like, let's try and make this about me. Thank you so much. You made me feel great.

You're honestly a great high person. Appreciate that. You know what Dave? You make the job easy. Thank you so much. You made me feel great. You're honestly a great high person. Appreciate that. You know what Dave? You make the job easy. Thank you. Well, that brings us to the end of the episode. PASS you made it. Thank you so much.

Sticking out late. Thanks so much for everyone for joining us. Those who made to the end, the true believers would appreciate you most of all. Dave, how can people find the show online or whatever? Well, I must say that I recently rewatched the footage. We will be releasing some live episodes that we filmed at the Melbourne Comedy Festival soon. Details to come, but as in the edit, I watched I called some members of the audience true believers and Matt goes, we never call you that and he just did it. This feels good.

This feels good. Yes, we're going to be a stupid old, stupid old presents. Yeah, SOS presents.com. We'll have the four live shows we, I think we're talking about it. Maybe it being one ticket, get you access to all four.

Sounds good to see. A four-puck super pass. Yes, that's right. So keep your eyes out for that. Be coming out very, very soon. We will of course announce it on here on the social media. But you that's right. So keep your eyes out for that. Be coming out very, very soon. We will of course announce it on here on the social media. But you can get in contact with us at dogoonpod.com.

But we are just a few podcasts here at dogoonpod.com. Many, many more podcasts can be found at sanspantsradio.com in our right cast. Oh, that is right. That is right. Yeah, including, because if, what about do go D&D? Or D&D go work?

Do go D&D. I think it's do go D. That's on the Sandpants network. I was a co-pro. Yeah. I know we're gonna do another one of those if we're, yeah, we keep saying, oh, one throw out out again.

And hopefully we haven't missed that window. Yeah, we keep getting put back in. No, it's sandspantsreader.com. A new host, many shows missed that window. Yeah, we keep getting put back in. No, it sounds pantsreader.com. I knew hosts many shows on that network. Yeah, I'm on some D&D. That's D&D's for nerds. I'm on shut up a second. I like to describe that one as,

hey, you got thoughts you don't want. We'll give you new ones. It's like follow the sleeper to sleep over with your friends. Lots of that. That's nice. And we're Dave and I and Jess have all been on multiple episodes of different ones there. Yeah, I think.

Yeah, you guys. So most recent one I was on was a Haggwood's footy episode, which happened after a Saints win. So I was pretty chirpy. You were up for it that day. And did you read to it before you knew the result? No, I think that, I mean, I'd be happy to go on anytime. But I think they only asked me on after a win.

Yeah, I found out. Because I think they maybe think I'm more sensitive than I am. Normally by the time they record mid-week, or whenever it is, I've moved on. It is hard to understand you when you're crying though. I've experienced that. It's hard to talk through tears. Oh no.

But yeah, I definitely encourage people to check out more of your shows, Cass. And of course, you've been on many episodes of Bookcheat and Primates over the years. One of our absolute favorite guests and we've been absolutely stoked that you could come on. Do go on. Yes. My absolute honor to be here. Thank you so much.

One of the primates dream team. Absolutely. Yeah. On the most recent primates episode, the love episode, if you haven't heard it, it's fantastic stuff. recent primates episode, the live episode, if you haven't heard it. It's fantastic stuff. Castels a great story about a royal who died at the hands of a monkey. Oh, that was awesome. And I was in the room watching the live show. And I've got to say, you made me feel like a bit of a hack because you wheeled off this amazing story with zero notes in front of you. We're always cheating with a bit of a laptop or something in front of us, but you just

just rifted basically straight from the top of your door. Amazing. Well, look, I would have come out a lot better had I given myself some notes. I just don't think it could have it. It just came out. It was it was very, very funny and very interesting. So yeah, people can check that out too. But I guess that's it for another week of Doogawon and until next week I will say thank you so much for listening and until then goodbye! This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now. You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising. But what if you could be saving money by switching to Progressive? Drivers who save by switching save nearly $750 on average, and auto-customers qualify

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