Do Go On - 295 - Cathy Freeman

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Starting point is 00:02:06 Potential savings will vary, discounts not available in all safe and situations. Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go On, my name is Dev Wonki and as always I'm here with Math Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hello! Hello! What a pleasure to be here with you Dave and Jess, Sika Perkins. Oh, thank you! Math, you Stewart! What a blow! That's so good.

Starting point is 00:02:42 What a blow, anyone's mind to know that I'm actually technically not called Dave. Wait, what? My full name is David. Does that blow anyone's mind? Wait, hang on a second. That doesn't make any sense. Why have we been calling you Dave all this time? Where does that come from? Well, is that your middle name?

Starting point is 00:02:55 We've got no time to discuss that because Jess, how does this show work? Oh, for why, me? Okay, so this show works. One of the three of us takes the topic off and suggested, by our listeners, we go away, we research the topic, we bring it back to the other two, who listen patiently, but also interrupt a fair bit. There's some laughter, sometimes there's tears,

Starting point is 00:03:15 that's usually off-podcast. And there's friendship along the way. Did I nail that? That's great. A great time. A lot of tears of joy, of course. Yeah, of course. And we always start with a question. And it is my turn to do the report of my question to you, Matt and David.

Starting point is 00:03:36 That's no time. My question is, what event occurred on the 25th of September 2000? 2000. Oh, are we doing the Olympics? Well, you've already done the Sydney Olympics opening ceremony. That's right. Is it the closing ceremony? It is not the closing ceremony. Yeah, that would be wild.

Starting point is 00:03:57 That is like Grand Final week 2000. That was a SNN smashing the demons. Is that what we're talking about? Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to be talking about Essenden versus no. Er, okay, you were on the right kind of track with Olympics. Okay. What was sort of the, one of the biggest events in the...

Starting point is 00:04:19 Was it Nikki Webster CD launch? Ah, Ben Kissen, you're strawberry Kissen. There's only a couple of weeks after she's really wanting to capitalize on the buzz. You got to be quick. You got to be. You know, people forget. Alright, what about, what, what, what, so one of the big events. Is it Kathy Freeman's, uh, gold medal?

Starting point is 00:04:41 Boom, yes it is. Oh, it is Look, it's a little bit of a spoiler but also people probably know I probably though personally never heard of this event So wow well, I want to say 200 meters. I want to say 400 meters Yes, yes It was longer than 200 It was a track double 200. Yeah, it's a lap of the track. It's a lap of the track. But I wanted to talk a little bit.

Starting point is 00:05:09 I would call the event. I would call the track. A lap of the track. Track lap. Track lap. Track lap. Track lap's fun. Yeah, that's fun.

Starting point is 00:05:16 Gold medals in the track lap. Yeah, I wanted to talk about this event, but also talk about the person behind the event. Kathy Freeman. I didn't find any of also talk about the person behind the event. Kathy Freeman. I didn't find knew the name of the person who like drew the lines on the track. That'll be see, I could have made mine up, nobody would know. Anyway, yeah, so I have free choice at the moment and I was very, very surprised that Kathy Freeman hasn't been suggested by anyone in the house.

Starting point is 00:05:44 Really? Can I get on there right now? Please do, because I wasn't baffled by that. I was like, she was like my childhood hero. Surely I'm not alone there. And in doing a bit more research, I definitely was not. So yeah, I wanted to talk to you a bit about the life and that fateful day in September 2000. Do you remember the 25th night of September? Exactly, that's what the song's about. I'll be so curious to find out if, because obviously Kathy Freeman's a legend in Australia,

Starting point is 00:06:15 I wonder how well she's known internationally. She would have been quite well known at the time, but I don't know. People 20 years later are still thinking about her every day like I do in other parts of the world. I think about her every day. I love Kathy Freeman. Ah, she's an absolute legend. She carried the whole nation on her back.

Starting point is 00:06:34 You're not wrong, Matt, but let's not get emotional too early. We do the tears off the pole. Well, here's something straight off the bat that's going to blow your mind. Her real name is Catherine. What? What? I know. It's like, we're okay.

Starting point is 00:06:50 Everything is all lie. Yeah, we can know someone. And then I was like, okay, Kathy must be her middle name. But her middle name is Astrid. Catherine Kathy. Yeah. Because why would we be calling her Kathy otherwise? What was I come from? It's crazy.

Starting point is 00:07:05 What was I come from? Where does it come from, David? I don't know. Gosh. Catherine Astrid, Salome Freeman, born on the 16th of February 1973 in Mackay in Queensland. Her mother Cecilia is of the Google Yelangie people of far North Queensland, and along with her grandmother was born in the indigenous community of Palm Island. Her father was born in Wuribindi,

Starting point is 00:07:30 and is of the Biri Guber people of central Queensland. And her athletic ability seemed to be a genetic blessing. Her father, Norman Freeman, earned the nickname of Twinkle Toes. Oh, yes, that was on the dance floor, though. Was that his middleman? His middleman was Twinkle Toes. Oh, yes, that was on the dance floor, though. Was that his, was that his millename? His millename was Twinkle Toes. How funny, how funny is someone having both the nickname Twinkle Toes and the real name Norman?

Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah. What a combo. It's a great combo. He followed in his own father's footsteps and played rugby league and he was known for his speed and agility, hence the nickname Twinkle Toys. Kathy herself said legend has it that my father and my grandfather were asked to go to a club in England, but because of the way it was, at the time they weren't allowed.

Starting point is 00:08:18 Obviously because her father and grandfather were indigenous people and you know, oh, I'll get into it. She's one of five children. She has three brothers, Norman Garth and Gavin and a sister, Ann Marie. That's brilliant. That's brilliant. Norman Garth and Gavin. Gavin, love it.

Starting point is 00:08:40 They are all great comedy names. The girls really got the best names there. Ann Marie, Catherine, yeah, they did well. Ann Marie had cerebral palsy, spent much of her life in the Buribi Care Facility in Rockhampton. And Kathy had her first running race at the age of five, and she fell in love with the sport. It helped the...

Starting point is 00:09:02 Her first running race, Jess, so you've specified running race. What's she racing cars prior to this? Yes, she was. Yes. We didn't spoil her there, but yes, she was a junior go-cart and then full on car racing. Yeah, full on cars. Full on cars.

Starting point is 00:09:17 Couldn't reach the pedals, but yeah, pretty impressive. She took up a couple of track clips. A couple of track clips. But yeah, so she fell in love with, right, with running really early on. It definitely helped that she won her first race, but people started to notice her natural ability for me, young age. It's like an interview with one of the primary school teachers who was like, holy shit, this kid is, she's got something and we've got a helper get there, which is pretty cool. I can you just imagine how quick she would have been, like obviously she's very very fast,

Starting point is 00:09:49 the best in the world at one point. But you know when you're in primary school and there's the quickest kid in your school and you're like, oh my god, they're so fast. But on the world stage, they're like the 15th or 20th thousandth fastest person in the world. Of course, yes. Because they're going to be fastest person in the world. Of course, yes. Because there's gonna be the fastest in the world. Yeah. Is there any more deflating moment than seeing the fastest kid

Starting point is 00:10:09 at your school get flogged more in the fastest kid of another school? I didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those.

Starting point is 00:10:19 He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. He didn't even make the top of those. One girl said within a year's shot of me, oh shit, I'm against Jess. Because she knew she should have a fucking chance. That's great.

Starting point is 00:10:28 And then I ran against Larissa, who absolutely smoked me. So... I think that another girl got your head. Well, no, I beat her. Just couldn't ever beat Larissa. Oh, shit, I'm against Larissa. She's just too fast. I wonder what she's doing now.

Starting point is 00:10:43 Everyone turned to the girl next to him. It's the same thing. Oh, no. Oh, but I just heard that one thing. It was like, yeah, damn straight. She made your own faster. Kathy's parents, Cecilia Norman, split up in 1978 when she was five years old.

Starting point is 00:11:00 And a few years later, her mother married a man named Bruce Barber. This is a question. Bruce, another cracking name named Bruce Barber. Bruce another cracking man. Bruce Barber, how good is that? Bruce Barber, pleasure to meet you. Bruce Barber, how do you bloody do? There's a quote from Kathy. She says, I was 10 when my family and I moved from a coy to a place named Huyenden in the desert region of far North West Queensland.

Starting point is 00:11:27 The vast desert land with its wide open skies and incredible red land was another perfect setting to cultivate my love of running. Bruce wanted to encourage his step-daughter to pursue her athletic dreams and became her very first coach, despite not knowing that much about athletics himself. But he just wanted to help.

Starting point is 00:11:46 We wanted to be supportive. Guy run, run quicker. Faster. Yeah. That's good, but even faster. Do it again faster though. That fast run you just did. Do you reckon you could do that ever so slightly faster?

Starting point is 00:11:56 Go have a crack. Fantastic. Maybe next time you could maybe try and beat a Lissa. I don't know. Good boy. Good luck. Yeah, good luck, mate. Yeah. He quickly. Oh, give it a go. Good fuck it, I love it. Yeah, give it a like, man. He quickly realized Kathy's ability was a bit beyond his help,

Starting point is 00:12:10 but nonetheless by her... Give it a go, she had a... Give it a go, I don't know how to do it. I told her to go faster. And she did. I made a lot of noise. Where do we go from there? Nonetheless by her early teens,

Starting point is 00:12:24 she had a collection of regional and national titles having competed in the 100 meters, 200 meters, high jump and long jump. She's getting a munched. And that was just in drag racing. What about running? I'm getting to it. You've got to get to know a person first. She looked at those cars one day and said, I reckon I could run pretty quick too. She looked at those cars one day and said, I reckon I could run pretty quick too. I reckon I would watch like underage drag racing. Eight year old clever girl. Would you watch like adults doing it?

Starting point is 00:12:55 No, boring. They got long legs. I'd also watch high jumping a car. That would be sick. Yes. Yes. Just keep raising the bike. I'll clear that. That would be sick. Yes. Yes. Just keep raising my bike. I'll clear that.

Starting point is 00:13:07 I'll clear that. I'll clear that. You've got to have fun. I'll give you a round. Is that cool? Younger driver racing cars, too. Cars doing high jump. Yes.

Starting point is 00:13:18 A logical, the next logical thing. I thought there was no bad ideas here, man. I thought this was a safe place. I thought that too. Tell me you wouldn't, just tell me you wouldn't watch it. Tell me you wouldn't watch if that was an option. Yeah, would you watch that? Would you say, oh, you're no thanks, I'll go to bed.

Starting point is 00:13:30 ESPN. Car hijump, come on, you're not turning that off. Car. I'd watch the inaugural one for sure. I think it would get old. The first and last. There's no driver in it, they just put a brick on them and accelerate them.

Starting point is 00:13:42 No humans get hurt, but the cars are fucked. Why don't you get kids to drive the cars now watching? Put a little helmet on them, alright? Kathy's brother Norman was also a gifted runner and the siblings trained together. And we're both recipients of sporting scholarships to trained together and were both recipients of sporting scholarships to Coral Buying International School in 1987, where Kathy was coached by professionally by Romanian Mike Danilla, who later became a key influence throughout her career. He provided a strict training regiment for the young athlete. The following year she was awarded a scholarship to an exclusive girl school called Fairhome College in Tawumba.

Starting point is 00:14:25 And in a competition in 1989, she ran 11.67 seconds in the 100 meters. The world record is 10.49. So she's done it in 11.67. But it's pretty fast. So by 15, she's 1.18 seconds off the world record. Is that the current at the time or the current now? I think that's still the record. Wow.

Starting point is 00:14:47 That was set by American Florence Griffith Joyner. Oh, yeah, she's had it for decades. And she also has the second and third fastest times. I've never tried, I don't think, but I reckon I could probably go about that fast. Drinking. Yeah. If we get Barry Barber to help coach me.

Starting point is 00:15:07 Bruce. Bruce, Steven, better. Bruce. So yeah, she's 15. She's, you know, she's already incredibly fast. And like I said before, by her early teens, she had regional and national titles and her coach, Danilla, began to think about entering her

Starting point is 00:15:23 in the Commonwealth Games trials in Sydney. She was selected as a member of Australia's four by 100 real estate team for the 1990 Commonwealth Games in Auckland. Her teammates were Monique Dunston, Kathy Sandbell, and Kerry Johnson, and with a time of 43.87 seconds, they won the gold medal. Kathy was the first ever

Starting point is 00:15:45 Aboriginal Commonwealth game gold medalist and one of the youngest Commonwealth games gold medalist as well. She was 16 years old. Oh, that's amazing. They were the real glory days of Commonwealth games. Back when Australia was real good at them. I thought we do it. Now we do okay and come off games because the Americans aren't there. Well, that's it used to definitely be true, but then the UK started putting money into it. Yeah. And then we were like, no, this is shit.

Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah, you're right. The 90s into the early 2000s were a really good year for us with athletics, swimming. Oh, yeah. Clear good. I mean, we've always been pretty average at basketball, but, uh, that's no, I just saw the world rankings for the men's. We're third in the world. Yeah. K is 41st.

Starting point is 00:16:35 Wow. Someone on the Planet Broadcasting great mates group posted it. They said, they said, ah, they're an English guy. And he's like, I've just been getting into basketball and I realize that we're really awful at it. Let me see. It's no reason not to get into it. It's a great game. That's pretty good.

Starting point is 00:16:52 And top 41. That's pretty good. Is that bad? I think it. And as well, wouldn't it be fun to be British and be an underdog and something? Great point. They should try it. Yeah, give it a go.

Starting point is 00:17:04 Yeah. And just looking up here, the. Yeah, give it a go. Yeah. And just looking up here, the women's team currently ranked number two. Australians. All right. Yeah, Australian women's basketball has always been great. The opals, have they had an Olympic gold yet? But they've been real close. The men's are always out of the medals, but the women's team wins medals most Olympics, I think. Yeah, definitely remember silver in Athens. So anyway, first over after you've... Is this the episode about basketball, sorry Jess. God, I wish.

Starting point is 00:17:30 No, I don't, I love Kathy Freeman so much. So first ever Aboriginal Commonwealth Games gold medalist and she's 16 years old. What were you doing when you were 16, Jess? When in Commonwealth Awards? I bloody giving it a go. Let's run and do a high jump. In a car? In a car? In a car?

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Starting point is 00:18:45 And she recalls winning a race as a 10-year-old and not being given the trophy, apparently, because she was black. Didn't give her the trophy. What the fuck? Yeah. This is in the 70s. This is not that long ago. It's completely fucked.

Starting point is 00:18:59 And I think it's like a great opportunity and very important to talk about it because I think something that particularly old white people struggle to understand is how important representation is. You know, that we throw around the phrase, you can't be what you can't see, but as white people, we can't really understand that because we're everywhere. And that's sort of, I'm generalizing there as well. It's like white cis people or white able-bodied people. When you, you don't fit that mold, you don't see yourself represented anywhere. You're not in books or film or anything like that. And we're obviously getting a lot better at that, but it's still pretty average.

Starting point is 00:19:41 So I think it's huge because Cathy's, of course, not the first Aboriginal person to do something impressive or a note, but she's this young, strong, talented woman she's driven and focused and she's not just setting an example for young Indigenous kids, but throughout her whole career she's being celebrated and cheered on by all Australians, which is incredibly important for the young indigenous kids to see. So it's massive, and it gets bigger and bigger and bigger as her career progresses. So 1990 is also a difficult year for the family

Starting point is 00:20:16 because Kathy's older sister Anne Marie passed away. In every docker or interview I've seen, Kathy talks about how much her sister inspired her. She credits Anne Marie with being the reason she is who she is. Growing up with her gave Kathy a great appreciation for what she could do and to appreciate the things that you've been given. And there's a nice part in a documentary that came out last year, it's called Freeman, where her mum Cecilia says, she ran for a sister. That's what drove her to succeed.

Starting point is 00:20:45 So it's pretty amazing, too. The next couple of years were busy for Kathy. She competed in her second world junior championships in Seoul, South Korea. She competed only in the 200 metres, winning the Silver Medal. And also in 92, she participated in her first Olympic Games in Barcelona.

Starting point is 00:21:03 Sorry, Jess. Bathalona. Sorry, sorry. I Ah, sorry, just Bathalona. Ah, sorry, sorry, I always butcher that one. Bathalona. She made it to the second heat in the 400 metres, which at the time was looking like it was going to be her specialty event, and finished in seventh place as part of the women's 4x100 relay team. So she kind of continues to do the 200 and the 4x100 throughout her career,

Starting point is 00:21:24 but 400 is really her like her specialty. Her breakout year happened in 1994 when she entered into the world's elite for the first time. And what I mean by that is she took 1.3 seconds from her 400 meter personal best, achieving 50.04 seconds. She set all time personal bests in the 100 meters. 100 meters, her PB was 11.24 and her 200 meters best was 22.25, which is very fast. One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi.

Starting point is 00:21:59 She's already done the first quarter. Four five Mississippi six we know the six through eight seconds are a lot faster seven eight nine Mississippi 10 Mississippi you know and that goes all the way through to 22.78 Mississippi's yeah and she's done she's done it's over done and I'm still trying to you know go through the states of America on the starting line, which is my pregame routine. It's a little superstition of mine. I always get stuck on the periodic table.

Starting point is 00:22:32 I really can start on the periodic table. Competing at the 1994 Commonwealth Games in Canada, she once again ran as part of the four by a hundred real a winning silver. The team had originally finished first, but were later disqualified and knocked back to silver. After Freeman obstructed the Nigerian runner, so they got knocked back. I thought, like, if you get, if you disqualified for anything, you're out, but they just got knocked back to silver. Very interesting. And what does she do to abstract? I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure on that. It just said that she obstructed them. I'm not sure. Yeah, I'm not 100% sure on that. It just said that she obstructed them.

Starting point is 00:23:06 I'm not entirely sure how. I wonder if it was one of those. It depends on the rules, maybe of each race. But I know, I know like when I used to watch horse racing a bit, they, if there was a protest, it wouldn't necessarily rule out the horse who infringed. It would just, they'd go, they'd sort of figure out where in the field that they should be shuffled to

Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah, interesting not sure like if you if you step out of your lane in There four by a hundred you usually disqualified. I don't But I don't I've never really seen it that they just drop back a notch, but I'm I'm absolutely Not an expert here. I don't know why I'm fighting with the information. I have I'm absolutely not an expert here. I don't know why I'm fighting with the information I have. I'm like, I don't know. Well, as long as it was helpful that I brought up a vague memory of horse racing. And I'm talking about when I did into school

Starting point is 00:23:54 four by a hundred relay. I assume similar rules to Olympics. And my rules. Well, Commonwealth Games or whatever. She won both gold in both the 200 meter and 400 meter, the first woman to do so in the Commonwealth Games. Yeah, right. She got gold in two and four, but she caused controversy within the Australian Olympic, Commonwealth team with her post-Race celebration by carrying both the Australian flag and the Aboriginal flag.

Starting point is 00:24:21 So I remember vaguely there was controversy about that. I thought that was in Sydney. Where was that? This is in 94 in Canada. It just seems like such a bizarre thing to get upset about. I know. It was seen as an act of defiance and improper to associate the Aboriginal flag and the Australian flag together.

Starting point is 00:24:41 Very, very strange. Can you guess the age and skin colour of the men who are protesting this? Oh, do you remember any of the names? No, it was the... Was it a dick pound involved? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha He was like the head of the Commonwealth team, I don't know. But it was kind of hard, I was very annoyed watching it, but then there was like Vox Pop's done by, the news interviewing just regular Australians

Starting point is 00:25:15 who are all going, why don't you do the big deal? Makes a lot of us like, she should have both. So that was, I was like, okay, at least, at least it's not everybody, but the media of course picked it up. Kathy was being interviewed at one time. As in, you know, those kind of interviews, I say in inverted commas when somebody's just trying to walk somewhere and there's just media all around them, like, oh, they're

Starting point is 00:25:35 galley, that's all these questions. Kathy, thanks for coming to our interview. I'm going to the show. I'm trying to get to the car. Yeah. But she said, with all due respect, I don't care. I'm here to run and that's all I'm going to do. And that is exactly what she did. All throughout her career, her running career, all she wanted to do was run. She would do state comps and things that she probably

Starting point is 00:25:55 didn't have to do anymore because she just loved to run and she loved to race. In 1996, she ran the stall gift for international listeners or Aussies who aren't familiar, the stall gift is held in a town called Stoll. It's about 240 Ks. West, Northwest of Melbourne. It's been held in all, but five years since 1878. It's a very old and very famous and prestigious foot-rays. It's run on grass and athletes a handicap according to form and ability and start off at varying marks along the track. So when she went to run it, she was starting 42 meters behind the rest of the runners. She actually started in Melbourne.

Starting point is 00:26:35 Yeah. She's 42 meters back of a 400 meter race. She watched some of the other competitors on the train while she was running to the... She had to start three weeks early. Yeah, it was incredible, an amazing achievement. The race is on YouTube, it is actually an incredible watch. So 200 meters in, she's still quite far behind

Starting point is 00:26:57 the rest of the races, it looks like she can't make up the distance. But then she just closes the gap. It's so subtle and quick and she's just suddenly right behind them and then she's passing them and one of the other runners, Lewis, elbows her. But Kathy doesn't even flinch and just keeps going. And in like the last 50 meters, she just overtakes them all and wins with a 42 meter handicap. She wins. I've seen that race a few times. It's so fun to watch someone come just swoop a field like that.

Starting point is 00:27:28 It just looks like they're on a travel later. Yeah, it's incredible. She has an amazing running style, and she's obviously very, very quick. By the 1996 Olympics, Kathy was seen as the biggest challenger to French runner, Marie-Joseph Peric, who Kathy described as the biggest challenger to French runner Marie-Joseph Perric, who Kathy described as the sort of woman who struck fear in the hearts of most athletes. Kind of like you to Ellie or whoever. Larissa. Larissa. Just she was this statuesque striking powerful woman. She was a very intimidating athlete

Starting point is 00:28:06 and one that Kathy was determined to beat. And just to paint you a picture, Perrek is five foot 10 or 1.8 meters tall. She's lean but very, very muscular, a classic sprinter body but with extra definition. She's just... Sorry, Jessica, you just cut out for a second. Are you describing me or...

Starting point is 00:28:27 Just a little joke there. She sounds like she's built for the right. Yeah, she's this incredible, yeah, really statuesque, amazing. Kathy is 5'5", 20cm shorter, also very lean, just much smaller and kind of unassuming. She's still very like a great muscle definition, but I feel like if you just saw Kathy Freeman walking down the street and you didn't know she was Kathy Freeman, you wouldn't think she was the elite athlete that she is. Yeah. Whereas I feel like if you saw Perric, you'd be like, oh yeah.

Starting point is 00:29:01 Yeah. I'm not sure what sport you do, but you're incredible at it. So at the 95-world championships of year prior, Kathy had run the wrong race in her coach's words. She'd started too fast, she'd run out of steam, and in the last 100 metres, she'd fallen from second place to about fifth. So she was determined not to make that same mistake again.

Starting point is 00:29:22 Peric had run a time of 48.86. So Kathy Freeman wrote a big note for herself that said 48.6. That's what she was going to aim for. She was, all right, 95, you did 48.86, I'm going to do 48.6. So at the 400 meter final, Kathy's on her tail and Peric was challenged in a way that she hadn't been for a very long time. And while Kathy didn't beat her, she came in second and wiped a full second of her own personal best. And pushed Peric to an Olympic record of 48.65.

Starting point is 00:29:54 Wow, that had been awesome race to watch live. The race is amazing. I've seen it and... There's such a height difference in them. And Peric's stride is so long, because she's got such long legs, but Kathy is sort of like long legs short torso. So she's kind of, they look size wise,

Starting point is 00:30:15 so different to each other, but she's really like, she's so, so close to her and they're both really pushing. It's amazing to watch. And Kathy says that Perik was very inspiring. She says she gave me permission to be bold with my goals. Which is really nice. They raised it. Like literally. Yes. Perik went up to the great she permission. Kathy said thank you. Kathy did eventually beat Perik at a at a Grand Prix race in Belgium.

Starting point is 00:30:45 Car racing, yeah. Yes, she got it. She got to do something in the office. She's got to do the F1 car. She'll observe her race. How crazy is this? Over the next four years between 96 and 2000, Kathy wins 41 out of 42 races.

Starting point is 00:30:59 And the one that she lost was only due to injury. 41 out of 42 races. She's unstoppable. That is a hot streak. Yeah. By 1998, she's one of the most famous people in Australia. She's awarded Australian of the year. I believe the only person to be both young Australian and Australian of the year. I hope she gets the oldest Australian of the year down the track. Yeah, another big grudel net.

Starting point is 00:31:21 Get the trifecta. Elderly Australian of the year. The pressure was already being put on her Get the trifecta. Elderly Australian of the year. The pressure was already being put on her about the upcoming 2000 Olympics. Newtaper headline said, hope of a nation rests on Freeman's shoulders. Bit of pressure? Yeah, I was a joke of a four when I said the whole country was on her back. It was so much pressure. The pressure was insane. By 99, she was the first woman ever to win back-to-back world championships in the 400 meters. And meanwhile, Perik had been struggling with ill health for a few years but made a comeback

Starting point is 00:31:51 just in time for the 2000 Olympics. She's back. She's back. And this is what this has all been leading up to, the 2000 Olympic Games. So September 15, 2000, the opening ceremony. Oh, tell me more. If people want to more in depth, look at that. Yeah, I've done a whole report. Nearly six years ago. Wow. Shout out to the horse whispers out there.

Starting point is 00:32:16 Do you want a good job? Yes, my memory. My memory. Yeah, I did a whole thing on the opening ceremony. It was a pretty formative event in my childhood. So very close to my heart. For the first time in recent Olympic history, the opening ceremony concluded with the lighting of the Olympic cauldron.

Starting point is 00:32:32 And while Tina Arena and the Sydney Children's Choir and the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra performed the flame, we see Australian Olympic gold medalist Herb Elliott with the torch bringing it towards the stadium. Then to celebrate 100 years of women's participation in the Olympics, we see the torch pass to a series of Australian champions, and the crowd is going absolutely wild

Starting point is 00:32:53 because they don't know who it's gonna be. And these are like, cream with a crop, these are like big stars in Australian sport. And I talked about this on the opening ceremony episode, but it's worth mentioning again. So first off is Betty Cuthbert, a four-time gold medal runner who had MS, so was being pushed in a wheelchair by Raylene Boyle, three-time silver medalist.

Starting point is 00:33:15 They passed on... Betty, also a fantastic name. Betty, incredible. They passed it on to Dawn Fraser, four gold and four silver medals, and one of Australia's most famous swimmers. Next is Shirley Strickland, who won more Olympic medals than any other Australian in running sports. She got three bronze, three gold and one silver.

Starting point is 00:33:35 Then it's handed to Shane Gould, a swimmer who won three gold, a silver and a bronze, all at the 72 Olympics. Amazing. She did one Olympics and retired at 17. What a way to do it. Then Debbie Flintoff King, who runs through the athletes who are gathered in the middle of the stadium, and Debbie runs the torch to the base of a long set of stairs

Starting point is 00:33:56 that lead to the cauldron, where Kathy Freeman is standing. So it's a pretty big honor that she's been chosen to light the Cauldron, especially as they sort of celebrate these Australian legends of sport. It's kind of like them saying, here's another legend, which is pretty significant. Yes, they're literally passing the torch. Yeah. Oh, I love that symbolism. Yeah, they must have been thinking about that, but that is amazing, because you're like talking about the pressure on her.

Starting point is 00:34:26 Yeah. Now they're going, we're putting you already amongst this group of famous Australian gold medal winners. Yeah. You aren't that yet, but we expect to look back on this and see you as fitting in their company, which is what how it played out, but Jesus, it's just another chunk of pressure on her back. Yeah, sometimes athletes don't even go to the opening ceremony because they're still in training or their events coming up so they don't want to even go out. Let alone the rehearsals,

Starting point is 00:34:53 the pressure of this, like, imagine it's not just a party, you're doing a job out there. Yeah, the closing ceremony probably has a bit more of a relief kind of party feel for them, but this one, especially if you're one of the first events to happen, you might be performing. You might be competing the next day. Lola Lola. Probably not gonna go. You probably joined your vocal warm-up.

Starting point is 00:35:17 Worm up the pipes, you know, getting ready out there. When you said Tina Arena sang the flame, is that covering the cheap trick song? Is that a different song? It's a different song. Yeah, they've got, they write originals for the opening ceremony, sure. That would have been funny though. So yeah, as that's announced, it's Kathy Freeman, the crowd goes absolutely batshit. As does Ten-Year-Old Jess watching at home.

Starting point is 00:35:39 Also, Tanya. Who's there, little mind? Ten-Year-Old Dave, head in the bucket because I had gastro that night. I was cheering from within my bucket I can't eat it maggots Matt what was a hundred and ten year old you up to that night? I was always probably wearing a top hat somewhere. Yeah, I mean up in it. No, I remember I was at a house party that night.

Starting point is 00:36:06 And it was pretty loose. I imagine I can't remember it super well, but I remember there was a fight there. And yeah, the fight at the party. At the party. Oh, everyone in top hat, you know, a pretty sophisticated party. I say good stuff. Yeah. Everyone fighting. Everyone had their fists pretty sophisticated party. I say good sir. Yeah. Whatever I'm fighting. Everyone had their fists up like this.

Starting point is 00:36:27 A lot of water. What have you do? What about you to a duel? Yeah. We're all in our hundred and hundred and forty, hundred and fifty. So I'm demanding a satisfaction. That's right.

Starting point is 00:36:39 A lot of, yeah, a lot of, a lot of gloves were thrown under the ground. Yeah. Gauntlets throw it well. So yeah, a huge moment, a lot of pressure. She runs up the stairs, steps into the middle of a pool of water, where she bends down a lights a ring of fire around herself. And Johnny Cash came out at this point. Colored and then rose out of the water above her head.

Starting point is 00:37:04 And it was transported up a long waterfall where it finally rested on a tall silver pedestal above the stadium and that's where it stayed for the entire Olympics. So before she'd even run a race, she was the star of the Olympics. But with that came pressure and not only on her, but anyone who might be a threat to her metal chances. Anyone like Marie Jerezé Pérek, perhaps. Oh dear. Upon her arrival in Sydney, she was met with insane media attention and pressure. She claimed that a man gained access to her apartment building and verbally abused her.

Starting point is 00:37:38 Jesus. Although this was denied by management of the apartments. She said the pressure from the media was like nothing she'd experienced before. And that the only pressure athletes like her should have to deal with is the pressure of the competition. Are they saying that she made up the fact that a man came and yelled at her? Or are they saying there wasn't abuse,

Starting point is 00:37:56 they were praising her, I heard it, I heard it. They were saying go, Marie, go, Marie. Go. That is such a strange thing. I know. It's very odd. And about 24 hours before the 400-meter competition began, Porek left Sydney. The media, of course, were very kind about it. Oh, she left Sydney. Was she handicapping herself? She running from Melbourne? I'm going to start from Melbourne. See, at the finish line. No, they, they claimed she knew she couldn't

Starting point is 00:38:25 beat Kathy, so she chickened out. Literally, one newspaper headline said, Madame Wazelle, let chicken. Oh, ridiculous. And even in interviews in this documentary that happened from last year, so almost 20 years later, the people being interviewed kind of like, yeah, she just couldn't have it. And it's like, okay, she hasn't run, or she hasn't competed for four years due to ill health, and I'm not sure what sort of health issues she was happening, but she was unwell. And so then she comes back and she's treated this way

Starting point is 00:38:55 and she's already pretty vulnerable and the psychology of sport is incredibly important and she hasn't got that sort of thick skin because she hasn't been competing for four years and she's been pretty unwell. She's been treated incredibly badly. Do you blame her for backing out? I wouldn't, I don't blame her.

Starting point is 00:39:10 Isn't she already an Olympic gold medalist? I mean, what has she got to prove to these people? Exactly, but people like us, she just, you know, wanted to go out on top. She knew she couldn't win the race, so, you know, just go out while you're a gold medalist. And it's like, she's a human being. Yeah, you spend four years coming back.

Starting point is 00:39:24 I doubt you're just going to pull out the last second. Exactly. Yeah. And it's like, she's a human being. Yeah, you spend four years coming back at that, you're just gonna pull out the last second just. Exactly. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. What was it? So I missed it. What was the reasoning for pulling out? Well, she didn't really give a reason, but years later, she was quoted as saying,

Starting point is 00:39:36 the 400 meters in Sydney was not a race against Kathy Freeman. It was a race against an entire nation which had its problems. I was only prepared for a 400 meter race. Right. So it wasn't like an injury or something. It was the, but she was basically handed out of it by the media.

Starting point is 00:39:54 Yeah. That is because the media wanted Cathy to win. They didn't want, they didn't want Perrector win. And so they were asked holes to her. And then even now kind of go, Wig. It's like, go, pfft, wig. It's like nah, it's insane. Yeah, as we discovered last week

Starting point is 00:40:10 with the Steve Bartman incident, sport can drive people absolutely wild. Yeah, yeah, that's true. People act very irrationally. And I'm talking about the media here, not her, the way that people and the public, people breaking into a house to put her off, that's just not okay.

Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah, exactly right. And then that sort of being downplayed, like, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. But even as we're seeing more recently, and I mean, this will date this podcast a little bit, but with Naomi Osaka, you know, saying she doesn't want to do media appearances, and the media could be going absolutely fucking crazy about that as if that's the most important part of tennis. And it's like no, they're people, sports their job, but they're a human being.

Starting point is 00:40:54 So yeah, I definitely feel for Marija's a perreq. I've probably been saying her name wrongs entire time. It's so funny, I don't remember her at all. No, I know. Me either, I didn't know any of this, I don't remember her at all. No, I know. Me either. I didn't know any of this. I don't remember that story line or anything. No, it's still one, but you know.

Starting point is 00:41:10 But it wasn't really shown to us because it was just all about Kathy. I mean, it was in, yeah, I don't know. But you were saying, front pages of the page, was it, you know, sat cool on her a chicken? And so I just don't remember it any of that, which feels like that was obviously a big story at the time. Yeah, but I really wasn't reading the paper at 10, so I probably didn't see a lot of that.

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Starting point is 00:43:27 23 TV cameras, which doesn't seem like that much, but at the time they're like 23 cameras. Several hundred journalists. Seven, twenty-P. I've got 23 cameras on me right now. GoPro's. This is before my phone's guys. This is before my phone's guys. A smartphone back to the year 2000 and blowing everyone's minds.

Starting point is 00:43:46 Oh, it's looking crazy. This goes in my pocket. They wouldn't know what to do. What's a pocket? Look at you like some sort of alien. Pocket in your pants. It's going on. You're crazy.

Starting point is 00:43:59 Surely you need some sort of suitcase to take that around with. There's over 110,000 people in the stands stands, millions of people tuning in around the world. I did, it said in one news report, billions, and I was like, I don't know, can't be billions, but a lot of people. Trillions. Trillion. Trillion to watch the race that was called the race of our lives.

Starting point is 00:44:23 Like sans of the hourglass. This is the race of our lives. Like Sans of the Hourglass. This is the race of our lives. As the 400 meter women's finalist walked out onto the track, the crowd is deafening. It is so loud in the stadium. Kathy said her main concern was controlling her emotions. She said, I become very switched on and aggressive.

Starting point is 00:44:43 I don't have done it before in a race where I've just really gone too hard too early and not had the strength to come home in the last 100. So she and her coach Peter Fortune, incredible name. Oh my goodness. Is that a real name? Yeah, I'd want him. I'd want him to coach me. What's, depending on what his middle name is, is it good fortune or Peter bad fortune? Because that changes everything. It's Peter Miss fortune. They had a plan which he'd written down on a little piece of paper. Here's that plan. If his middle name was Wheel of, then I'm involved.

Starting point is 00:45:16 Peter Wheel of Fortune. Matt, I'm trying to tell you how to win a 400 meter race. That should be listening. And he's stick to this plan. And you'll win. This is not a little bit of paper. Matt, I'm trying to tell you how to win a 400 meter race. Yeah, that should be listening. And he's stick to this plan. Right down up. And you'll win. I've written a little bit of paper. This was a scrap of paper.

Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah. I've been to a museum now that scrap. So here's a plan. If anybody out there wants to win 400 meters, here's what you do. Okay. Fast start for 50 meters, no longer. Okay.

Starting point is 00:45:43 Then you move from very fast to fast, relaxed. OK. Great. I'm that all. I think of that all the time. That's your state. But you do that until the 200 meter point. Then you pick up on the bend a little to make sure of a position,

Starting point is 00:45:59 because the bend you guys slower. So you don't want to slow down too much. You pick up on the bend. Pick up on the bend. Then from 120 meters to go, you go hard and you hold form until the finish line. That is how you win a 400 meter. That's how I would have done it too. Yeah, great. For celebrate. Celebrate. I wasn't good at the two or 400 meters I wasn't good at like the two or 400 meters because I didn't know how to like not go 100%. I was like, it's running or I'm not.

Starting point is 00:46:32 What do you want from me? That's why the 100 meters was my event. So at the starting blobs, she took off her track suit and revealed that underneath she was wearing a green, gold and silver Nike Swift suit, that famous suit. These days you call it a morph suit. It's called a Swift suit at the time. They'd been developing it for a really long time, and they weren't even sure if she was

Starting point is 00:46:52 going to wear it for the race. Like one of the Nike executives is interviewing the documentary, and when she like took off her jumper, he was like, she's wearing it. That's good. What are revealed? Did you say that to his friend in the crowd? Look, she's wearing it. She's wearing it. That's good. What a reveal. Did he say that to his friend in the crowd? Look, she's wearing it. She's wearing it.

Starting point is 00:47:08 He's like, what? Andy Serger's ended up wearing one of those when he portrayed Schmigel in the water of the rings. For extra speed. Extra speed. Had balls on it extra as well. She didn't run with balls on it, though. No, that would have slowed down the aerodynamics.

Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah. Too much drag on them bulls. Problem I often face when I'm running. Um, US sprinter Michael Johnson, whose race was up after Kathie's, said that they were supposed to stay in that little walkway underneath the stadium until they were a lot of race time, but all eight runners of his race came out just to watch Kathie's race. Oh, see. It was this huge event.

Starting point is 00:47:46 Just the atmosphere would have been electric. Mark Johnson, I was wondering if that was around his side. It was the girl with the golden shoes. Twinkle, twinkle. Yeah, he might call it. His race was up next. And I think I talk about it a bit later, but his race was delayed by ages because of the celebrations, spoilers. From the very beginning of the race,

Starting point is 00:48:07 the second her fate leaves the blocks, everything is going to plan. She describes it as feeling like she's barely making contact with the ground. Oh, that doesn't feel good. She's floating. Is that legal? Come back, come back, come back. You're getting it. She's actually on a Segway. She went 400 meters up. But she didn't fasten any others.

Starting point is 00:48:35 She did it 11 seconds, so wow. Her body feels good, she feels strong, and her coach said she looked so relaxed that it looked like she was jogging down the track. So everything's going well. As the runners come around the bend, Kathy is in third position. People watching journalist coaches, everyone, has a moment where they think it's all over. She hasn't done it.

Starting point is 00:48:57 They've come around the last bend, and she's like slipping behind. Kathy, however, is in complete control. She talks about reading other people and paying attention to how they're running and how they're competing. And with 120 metres to go, she's waiting. She's waiting for someone to challenge, someone to push. She's just sitting back and waiting. She talks about how Lorraine Graham from Jamaica is leading,

Starting point is 00:49:22 but Kathy says she could tell Lorraine didn't think she could win it. So with 80 minutes to go, 80 minutes, 80 minutes to go. She's really waiting back at this point. She's really from that 80. 80 minutes to go, Kathy strikes. In the docker, she says, my ancestors were the first people to walk on this land. It's a really powerful force. Those girls were always going to have to come up against my ancestors were the first people to walk on this land. It's a really powerful force. Those girls were always going to have to come up against my ancestors.

Starting point is 00:49:49 She's really pulling from her connection. Eight of me to say, watching it, like, watching it looks like it's just in the space of a few strides she's pulled out in front. It's so quick how she just sort of goes, oh, okay, none of you are going to push, I will. So she continues to power through almost like she's gliding, she's so fast and she crosses the finish line at a time of 49.11 seconds. Lorraine Graham behind her at 49.58. She's fucking done it! Yes, Kathy. Huge surprise for you guys, I'm sure most people listening had no idea based on Matt's

Starting point is 00:50:26 answer to the question at the start and no clue. This is where we were going. How about at the start? I think I really built up the story. You beat Matt saying what color metal it is. So when Kathy Freeman won a beef, metal could be anything, could be anything. Yes. She metals though. She metals. Top three, but what one is it? Which one? I think it could be anything. Yes. She met us, though. She met us through the medlo. Talk for a while. What one is it? Which one?

Starting point is 00:50:48 Kathy Freeman was only the second Australian Aboriginal Olympic champion. The first was Nova Paris who had won for hockey four years earlier in Atlanta. She's only the second Aboriginal Australian. Isn't that crazy? And this is in 2000. After the race, Freeman took a victory lap carrying both the Aboriginal and Australian flags. And yeah, like I said before, the victory lap

Starting point is 00:51:10 took so long that it delayed the next race by several minutes, but no one cared because it was this huge monumental moment in not only Australian sporting history, but also just a big cultural moment for Australians as well. So absolutely massive. And yeah, it's definitely worth watching some of her races.

Starting point is 00:51:30 There'll be links in the description of this episode because she's a really, really amazing runner. She didn't compete in 2001. In 2002, she returned to the track tractor compete as a member of Australia's victorious 4x400 meter relay at the Commonwealth Games and it was during this year that Kathy noticed that the drive to win the real fire within her There wasn't there anymore, so she sort of decided it was it was time to walk away. She didn't have the drive Yeah, right and in 2003 she announced her retirement from racing. She was 30 years old. Oh, my goodness.

Starting point is 00:52:08 Have I missed my opportunity? No. OK. I'm going to say yes. You're done. What, wait, what, what opportunity you may to do what? To set the world record for the highest jump in a car.

Starting point is 00:52:22 No, you have not. We have not missed your opportunity at all. Thank you. So there you go. I believe in you. I haven't really mentioned much about her personal life, but just briefly, since retiring from athletics, she's become involved in a range of community and charitable activities. She was an ambassador of the Australian Indigenous Education Foundation until 2012. Between 1999 and 2003, she was married to Alexander Sandy Bodeca, incredible name, Sandy Bodeca. He was a Nike executive, but yeah, they split up in 2003. In 2007, she founded the Kathy Freeman Foundation

Starting point is 00:52:59 and the foundation works with four remote indigenous communities to close the gap in education between Indigenous and non-Indigenous Australian children by offering incentives for kids to attend school. And they've had a lot of massive impact in those communities as well. In 2009 she married Stockbroker James Merch and they have one child together, a daughter named Ruby who was born in 2011. And finally just a couple of, I guess, her awards, recognitions, obviously, like I mentioned before, Australian of the year in 1998. She won the Australian Sports Medal in 2000. She was given an Order of Australia Medal in 2001.

Starting point is 00:53:42 She received the Olympic Order. She won the Deadly Awards 2003 for female sportsperson of the year. She was inducted into the Sport Australia Hall of Fame in 2005, and the Queensland Sport Hall of Fame in 2009. And so her main kind of thing now is working with the Cathy Freeman Foundation and working with Indigenous communities, you know, in closing that gap with kids to be better educated, which is absolutely massive. Did you, earlier you mentioned that in one of the races, she closed the gap? Was that intentional? Yeah, it wasn't intentional, no. I just didn't know how else to, I guess, describe what she had done there, but no, but yes, it was intentional and clever.

Starting point is 00:54:27 Like we talked about last week's episode, that famous, not quite winning Olympic anthem, put a gap in it. That was in my head. All weekend. Go, New, good thing. Go, is that one? Yeah. It's going to be in there for days again now.

Starting point is 00:54:45 I might have been even called, go, you good thing, go, you good thing, put it, gap in that, go, you good thing, go. It's in there now. That's my report on Kathy Freeman. Fantastic. Great work. Great report, I am. Great work. Great work. Great report, I am. So glad to get a bit of a refresher on that.

Starting point is 00:55:08 What a subordinate, remember, it's just kind of a shame that the whole thing with parake, what a bummer that is. Yeah. I wonder what Kathy Freeman thinks about her not being there. Would it have been, you know, if she beat parake, that would have been an even greater moment perhaps. Or it didn't feel like it affected it, I mean, but yeah, it's just such a shame.

Starting point is 00:55:32 She talked a little bit about it and yeah, it was that sort of thing that there was even a clip. And I mean, it's a free, it's a documentary about Kathy Freeman. So obviously it's going to be favorable towards her. But when it's talking about you know, Peric and her experience with the media sort of goes to a press conference with Kathy Freeman as well. And she says like you know she's just there to have a good time and she doesn't want too much pressure. And then she says I hope you're treating Marie with the respect that she is due. Right. So she had a lot of respect for each other. Well, it's, Kathy definitely had a lot of respect for Perek. I think maybe after that incident, Perek, I don't know how she felt about Kathy Freeman afterwards. In an interview, there was something like, what would you say to Kathy Freeman now? And she was like, nothing. But it's not Kathy Freeman's fault

Starting point is 00:56:27 that the Australian media were hounding her so much. You know, so it's a bit tricky there, but yeah, she sort of talks about it like, it would have been great. It was sort of what she was working towards was to, she's going, if I want to be the best, I have to beat the best. Yeah. And she was working towards Perix, she's going, if I want to be the best, I have to beat the best. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:56:45 And she was working towards Perik's, you know, times and working towards beating her. And she didn't get to. And she's like, and now that race never happened. And it will never happen. Right. Yeah. You don't think they're login' us a rematch?

Starting point is 00:56:57 Oh, that'd be good. That'd be so good. That'd be so good. In the, in the mouth. That's so good. That'd be pretty sick. It is like, I mean, it's like the media was so full on to both of them, but one of them in such a negative way.

Starting point is 00:57:14 But I imagine both would have made it harder though, like, of course, the pressure on Kathy frame into win would have been, you know, a lot of people would have crumpled under that I'd say Absolutely, not that I obviously the negative stuff would have been worse I don't think anyone was yelling positive things at Kathy after breaking to her house, but um maybe they were Well according to management they were so Yeah, they were actually just left their flowers and said if I said she needed anything and so that

Starting point is 00:57:46 was very nice about it. Anyway, yeah, that is my report. Well, now it's time for everyone's favourite section of the show. The fact to quote all question section, but really it's more of a whole second half of the episode where we thank our great supporters and you know, we let our listeners get to know us a little bit better because... That's right. That's right. ...we try to get that to. Exactly. Some of our great supporters get to ask us the question,

Starting point is 00:58:11 give us a fact, or tell us a quote in this section called Fat Quotat Question, which has a little jingle to go, something a little like this. Fat Quotat Question. And they never forgets the ding, which is important. Now, the way this works is you get involved at the Sydney Shindler level of our Patreon, and you can do that by going to patreon.com. So I should go on, or do go on pod.com.

Starting point is 00:58:39 And once you're in there, you sign up to the Sydney Shindler level. There's a bunch of different levels. Dave, what are some of the other levels and rewards or things you can get for being a supporter? Well, there are, honestly, there's quite a few. We put out three bonus episodes per month. We put out an episode of phrasing the bar, our Brendan Fraser theme to podcast. We put out a bonus mini report every single month and also another,

Starting point is 00:59:04 another episode, sometimes it's a quiz, sometimes it's a little Q&A, all sorts of stuff in there. And also you get tickets to shows and live streams before anyone else does, you get discounts on those things as well. You can be in our Facebook group, which is just for Patreon supporters, very lovely place on the internet. And we put out a newsletter, or yeah, all sorts of stuff and also many many shout-outs which you're about to hear a few of. And yeah and and all of that goes towards keeping this show running our great supporters. Yeah the reason we do this bloody show so we really appreciate everyone. That's the only way that we're able to talk about stuff from the Sydney Olympics six years on.

Starting point is 00:59:43 It's the only way. I'll never stop talking about the Sydney Olympics. I love your enthusiasm for it, Jess. It's, it's, it's fucking wonderful. Because honestly, it was a huge time in Aussie culture. So yeah, absolutely was. So for this first part, it's the fact, quote, a question section, where people get to give us a fact, quote, a question.

Starting point is 01:00:07 They also get to give themselves a title and I read it out on the show for the first time. So sometimes they mess with me, let's see if they've done it here. First one up, we've got Jacob Giron or Giron, perhaps, who's given himself the title of lead detective on the case of Matt's Orban Orban Locks. Oh, what a, I think it's a pretty easy case, genetics. No, I reckon that's a full task force dedicated to that mystery.

Starting point is 01:00:32 I like it, he said Orban. I never know what colour hair to say. I just, generally I say red, but it has sort of dulled over the years. My beard has some bright red, but my head has. Not dulled, it's not dull. Hey, it's darkened. It's darkened, it's got a bit messy.

Starting point is 01:00:50 It is open, it is a bit open. But open feels good, I like open. I don't. But the beard really throws people off because it is very yet red. Yeah, flaming. Starting to understand why we need it, we need it so undeadicated to cracking open this case.

Starting point is 01:01:03 I see, yeah. Yeah, I thought it was open and shut. And I was wrong. So Jacob asked the question, if you could have any celebrity on the pod, who would it be? Kathy Frayneman. Oh, that would be awesome actually.

Starting point is 01:01:15 Oh, okay, who's a good celebrity? Yeah, and I want to do, should we be thinking of ones we've had on in the past with a story or? Dolly Parton. Oh, yeah, great. I would love to a story or. Dolly Parton. Oh, yeah. I would love to have a chat to Dolly Parton. I love you, good. Mari Curie. So we could ask, did you invent Panic Hillin? Did you?

Starting point is 01:01:33 Wasn't you? Tell me the celebrity Mari Curie. That's the famous nerds answer to this question. Sorry about that. I'm trying to think of a celebrity. I'm going to quickly Google celebrity. Oh, great. You can't even think of us celebrity. Celebrity. Think of a famous person, a Kardashian. Yeah, Matt knows a mole. Kenna. Kenna. That's quite good. Okay. That's quite good. the celebrity Wikipedia page, the first picture, is of Andy Warhol.

Starting point is 01:02:08 Okay, Andy Warhol, what'd you have in mind? Absolutely, I would. Oh, because of his e-coin, the phrase, 15 minutes of fame, that makes sense. Did he? David Letterman's there, he'd be great to have on. What phrase did he coin? Doesn't have any phrases coin, but here.

Starting point is 01:02:22 Take the way, but James. Oh, Kim Kardashian's there, Jess the way, LeBron James. Oh, Kim Kardashian's there, Jess. Yeah, she's a celebrity. Paris Hilton. They've got the house of Windsor. They're all the photos I've got on the... Of those, I'll choose David Letterman, please.

Starting point is 01:02:38 Okay. I'll take LeBron. Great. Great. And Jess, who are you taking from that list? Oh, from that list? Sorry. No, she already picked Dolly. Don't make it. Dolly, it's going to be Dolly. But yeah, Kathy Freeman would be, I'd love to hear the inside scoop. Thank you so much for that

Starting point is 01:02:56 question, Jacob. Next one comes from Carolyn Slater, who's given herself the title of sausage roll maker, but willing to give P pies a crack for Dave's sake. Thank you so much. Oh, nice. I've always been more of a roll man myself. Oh, well, I wish you were there yesterday when there's a fantastic bakery near where I work and I went down, they sell out every day.

Starting point is 01:03:18 So you gotta get there at a certain time. They should make more stuff. Oh, honestly, I get furious sometimes. I've been there at 11.55 AM, not even midday, and they're sold out of pies. Unbelievable. And they make it three pies a day. I think so, and I'm trying to buy them all.

Starting point is 01:03:35 Yesterday, I'm sent down to buy three pies, one for myself, two for colleagues. I get there. There's only two pies and one sausage roll left. I come back. Did you pull in your roll? Oh, I have to be like, oh, which one do you want? Now, I'll have anything.

Starting point is 01:03:50 You'll take the sausage roll? No worries, I'm just saying that to them. It's really quick. It's really quick. Okay, I'm not falling in love. That was great, that was great. That was always my Friday tuck shop. Was a sausage roll with sauce and a strawberry big M.

Starting point is 01:04:04 Yes. Got a good con. Yes, Matt, you and I, kindred spirits. So that I'm we're only we've only got to to Carolyn's title, but she's offered offered us a quote. And here it is. Carolyn writes, this is a quote from artist Lisa Kongdon, who is an amazing illustrator from the United States. It consists of four statements that you may have read in other contexts or phrase differently by other people. I like these a lot. Thanks, Carolyn. All right, here we go. Number one,

Starting point is 01:04:37 you cannot and will not please everyone. That is a fact of life. Number two, by taking care of your own needs, you will sometimes disappoint or even anger other people. Number three, how other people react to your choice is not your responsibility. And number four, the greatest responsibility you have is to your own well-being and happiness. Disagree with all of us. I have happiness very much the responsibility of other people. Yeah, no, those are all good things to remember, but very hard to do so. Yeah, I like them too. I feel like I'd put a fifth one in there going, still care about other people a bit. It is like four ways to make it all about you, but it is, you know,

Starting point is 01:05:27 being a bit facetious there, but you know, they do sound, they do sound like some good things to think about though. Lisa Kongdon, familiar with her work? No. Great name. Condon. Are we Kong? C-O-N-G-D-O-N. I'm on board now. I thought it was one letter away from Condon, but we're back in the game. It's two letters away. Exactly. Two letters, two steps, it's fine, Lisa. It's a... I'll allow it. Very bright and colorful stuff coming up. I'm enjoying what I'm seeing. I'm all about big colorful art. Then you would love Andy Warhol. Yeah, I like some of this stuff. Looks like good wrapping paper designs.

Starting point is 01:06:16 Or like rugs or something like that. Okay. Man, that is not a compliment to an artist. I take both of those back. It looks great. I never, I never rug of that. Okay. Man, that is not a compliment to an artist, is it? I take both of those back. It looks great. I never, I never rugged that. I reckon wrapping paper's more offensive. I'd rip that open.

Starting point is 01:06:36 No, yeah, that, there's a big, yeah, I like that sort of stuff. Good stuff. Love your work there. Lisa Kongdon, if you are listening. Thank you so much for that quote, Carolyn. Next one comes from Braden Douglas. It's given himself the title of Brevity Boy. Ooh, this sounds like a snappy one coming up. Braden's offered us a quote, and that quote is, to make up for that half hour long submarine fact, oh, you get remember that submarine fact

Starting point is 01:07:06 that was quite a mini-reportant self. A few more. I think I've repressed it. I didn't remember it at all. It was about camouflage. Anyway, Braden is making up for that long one with a short one here today. And that is, Brevady is the soul of wit.

Starting point is 01:07:21 You know, he said that. Full staff. Lisa Condon. Shake speed. Is it, yeah, I think it's Jack full staff. Oh, he said that. False staff. Lisa Condon. Shakespeare. Yeah, I think it's Jack false staff. Oh, who's that? Is it right? See a character.

Starting point is 01:07:31 Oh, not we're actually, no, I'm thinking of brevity is. Brevity is, dab that. That is what it is. That's good. That is good. Brevity is. Can I be quoted as that? Yes.

Starting point is 01:07:46 Can I put that on your team's turn? No, I'm thinking of the other, the false off quote, discretion. It's a better part of Vella. Oh, yeah. Fantastic. So, David, are you admitting you fucked up? Yeah, fuck you, I am. It is from Hamlet, Act 2, Scene 2.

Starting point is 01:08:01 Who could forget? You apparently. Yeah, you could forget. You just did fuck it in front of everyone. That's what I'm saying. Dave, did you think we'd forgotten what happened 30 seconds earlier? I was making fun of myself there, I'll be honest. Okay, let me be brief. All right, and finally, we've got Vincienzo Bonadonna. Vinny! He's given himself the title of, I'm actually that Italian greyhound that Jess knows,

Starting point is 01:08:37 shout out to all the toppers. Vincienzo! My former neighbour who I miss every day, not dead, they just moved. To the farm? Yeah. Do you doggo? Is there still a thing where you say doggo's and puppies?

Starting point is 01:08:54 I don't personally, but a lot of people do, yes. I'm still waiting it out. I might get a dog once I've done it. So you just say papa. Dave says papa, don't you day? I think I say papa. You just say Papa. My Papa. You just say Papa. You call all dogs Papa and I look at it. Yeah, but sometimes that doesn't go so well at the park when I say, oh, what's your pup's name? And they look at me

Starting point is 01:09:14 and go, it's not a pup. It's five years old. And I'm like, yeah, but I'm saying, what's your dog's name? Mate, come on, fucking hell. It's kind of like, you know, even though we're adults now, we're always our parents' children. It's kind of like, you know, even though we're adults now, we're always our parents' children, you know? That's right, the kids. Yeah. Exactly, they still see us as the kids.

Starting point is 01:09:31 My children are not actually goats. They sound like, every time I hear more about people at the dog park, I think she's this, they sound like fun, don't they? Well, you do meet some people where you're like, oh, I hope we don't run into each other. Unfortunately meet some people where you're like, oh, I hope we don't run into you. Unfortunately, other people, you're like, you're the best. Unfortunately, there's no, you don't get a license to get a dog.

Starting point is 01:09:51 Unfortunately, only cool people in my opinion should get them. But then I would not qualify. No, you're right. You wouldn't, you wouldn't correct me on how old your dog is. No, I just tell you. You'd say, how old you pop? And I'd say this age and you go, cool're right. You wouldn't you wouldn't correct me on how old your dog is no, I just tell you It's a how old you pop and I'd say this age and you go cool. Nice cool cool cool cool Whatever this week we rounded out the big three the fact-quadal question again Vincenzo has given us a fact here and

Starting point is 01:10:21 It reads thusly. I'd like to share a podcast with y'all I'm pronouncing that right. I don't like podcasts, not for me. No, thank you. A friend of mine who is a musician started a podcast called The Sing Along Podcast. It's run by Casey from the band Second Echo. I live in Las Vegas. This is still Vincent, I've been Chanzo talking about me. I live in Las Vegas and the podcast has introduced me to good artists in the local scene. And I want to share it with all the people in this network.

Starting point is 01:10:50 If you want to check it out, I give it a big recommendation. Thank you three for being a great reason to be excited each Wednesday morning. Keep up the fantastic work. And thank you for letting me share with you all. That's nice. I'm a fan of in Chanzo. That's nice. I'm a Vincenzo. That's lovely. What a fact. I did not know that fact before.

Starting point is 01:11:09 What was the podcast called? The Singalong Podcast. Good title. Singalong. Yeah, the Singalong Podcast. Yeah, I like it. I like that a lot. All right.

Starting point is 01:11:18 There are the facts, the quotes, and the questions. Now we'd like to thank a few of our other great patron supporters. Normally, just comes up with a game to do with the topic we just had. I was thinking of coming up with their new Olympic sports, like, car hijack. Okay, what their goal, Metalistin. Fantastic. All right, well, may I kick it off?

Starting point is 01:11:42 Yes. Well, I would love to thank, thank firstly from London in Great Britain. Place we really love getting to. Hopefully we can do so again. One day, I'd love to thank Kristen. Kristen Thouly. Cool. Kristen is a gold medalist in something parkour.

Starting point is 01:12:07 Cup of tea. something parkour. Cappatite. Dog parkour. Okay. Did he say dog? Does that mean the dogs do the parkour or you do parkour on the dog? What you do is you do parkour in a dog costume. That's even better. Thus limiting some of your movement.

Starting point is 01:12:28 I love that. It was really cute. I love that very much. And congratulations on the Gold Medal, Kristen. Huge. I'd also love to thank from Lutz in Florida in the United States. Marcus Smith, Lutz made me think of Lionel Hutz.

Starting point is 01:12:44 Dave, can you do anything with that? Okay, I want to about advanced cobbling. So she repair, gold medal and she repair. Advanced cobbling. What is that extreme cobbling? It's in the speed. Okay, advanced speed cobbling. Oh, that's, I mean, that's the kind of thing that is, you know, you get accolades for, but it's also a handy skill to have at home. Oh for sure

Starting point is 01:13:10 Absolutely. You could cobble together anything Shoes couple a pair out of anything Thank you so much Marcus and finally for me. I'd love to thank from address unknown return to sender. It's Sarah And finally for me, I'd love to thank from address unknown return ascender it's Sarah Cabo. Ooh, the fortress of the moles perhaps. Good pity. Oh, can I only assume? Cabo.

Starting point is 01:13:32 And it's... And it's... Cabo. I reckon Sarah Cabo... Oh, Cabo. The other option is World Champion Digger. Whoa. Digger of the moles. Big holes? Big holes or quick holes? Lots of holes. is a world champion digger. Whoa.

Starting point is 01:13:45 Digging a big old. Big holes? So quick holes. Lots of holes. Well, there's a couple of different events within, it's sort of like, you know, being like, oh, she's good at athletics, like what event? So within digging, there's either like,

Starting point is 01:14:00 how fast, how wide. Wow. Wow. But how long is that a matter of perspective? That's actually more ditching, Dave. Yeah, ditching is in a different, it's a different event. Yeah, that you get in a gold medal in ditching. I like it. Do not make plans with that person.

Starting point is 01:14:23 I'll ditch anything. Can I thank some people as well? I'd love to thank from Auckland, we're Cathy I, her first Commonwealth gold medal. Recently named the most livable city in the world. Was it? Damn, we had that title for a bit. We've seen it.

Starting point is 01:14:44 Come with me a bit. Yeah, a see it. Yeah, let's go. We ate a bit, but yeah, a little bit. No, I ate on aunt's ear. Yeah. What? Just because we went into several lots of things. At a late number three, I think. Fuck on. Yeah. It's so boring. Sorry. I get told off bag of that. I was, I was just there. It's beautiful. I think, well, I think that it's the kind of award. You know, the massive cities of the world never win this because they got so much traffic and pollution, all

Starting point is 01:15:10 these sort of things. It's the, it's felt like the slightly smaller big cities is the ones who win it. So I always felt like Sydney hasn't been up there that high in Australia for a while because it's probably because it's so big and that sort of stuff. That's where Melbourne comes up. Melbourne will start slipping down, Adelaide and Brisbane come up. I think that's how it'll go.

Starting point is 01:15:32 And who cares? We're talking about Auckland and from Auckland, I would love to thank Ellen Gibbs. What about a gold medal for feet archery? Oh, fart tree. Fart tree. Fart tree.

Starting point is 01:15:50 No. Those are, no. Not to be confused with fart tree, please. Difference for, we have to fart arrows in a, you have to fart very accurately. Yeah, but you put a little, little shoot, poop shoot in your butt, like a straw sort of device, and you have to give it all you got

Starting point is 01:16:10 Gonna eat a lot of beans. Well, I'll take that off. Yeah, Dave would be a master. I had a half a camper breakfast I'm going for the brown medal I'm going for the brown medal. It's a call back to a phrasing the bar episode from a little while back. Which also actually that riff about the brown medal came about from a discussion on the Barcelona Olympics. I don't remember that. from a discussion on the Barcelona Olympics. I don't remember that. We were, we were, um, Oh, this one I was like 15.

Starting point is 01:16:50 Yeah, we were talking shit while you were on your way. I can't remember what, what movie was that day? Or Jess? I think it was the one where he played his own twin. Yeah. Mrs. Winterborn? Mrs. Winterborn. Oh, fantastic.

Starting point is 01:17:04 Great work. That was it. Yeah. With the, with the Ricky Lake. Oh, Mrs. Winterborne. Mrs. Winterborne. Oh, fantastic. Great work. That was it. Yeah. With the with the Ricky Lake. Anyway, thank you to Ellen Gibbs. I would also love to thank from Bakersfield in California. No, no, no. No, no. Love to thank. Oh, Ashley, say Baker Baker from Baker's. What?

Starting point is 01:17:27 Is that nominant to turn it? Yeah, I was going to say she's a gold medalist in nominant to turn it. Really? You both went there. I wasn't there. So gold medals to you as well. I'm certainly reclining. I'm on my bed and I'm almost in lying position now. This is a real relax segment of the show. You can say, okay, we're getting there. Just an iron desk at home, but you've got your microphone.

Starting point is 01:17:52 You've just gone hand-held this all to me. That's ball. You need it right there as well. You need a Madonna headset mic. That's what you know, that would be fantastic. Yes, can we get those? I'm sick. That's all I need.

Starting point is 01:18:03 I've got a standing desk at home now. If I could have a Madonna mic, I will be unstoppable. You go for Jess. Yeah, I could I could do the podcast. I'll get a little treadmill underneath my standing desk. Oh my God. I'm training. I'm training for the Olympics. So Ashley, see Baker, we're going for she's a gold medalist in non-miniv determinism. Yeah, I like it. Oh, I go. Great. Alex, see, Baylor. Alex, see, Baker. Alex, do, Baker. Ashley, see, Baker. It's in front of you, you fuckhead. Finally for me, I would love to thank from San Diego, Aaron Stosel. What about Gold Medal and fastest time to stock an entire vending machine?

Starting point is 01:18:52 Holy shit, it's completely empty. It's completely empty and you've got drinks, you've got snacks, you've got those weird little nut things that no one wants to buy. All in there. Wow. What do you think would be the hardest thing to stack into a vending machine? Sac throw what great point great point. I

Starting point is 01:19:11 Imagine that made it happen somewhere Chuck Japan probably think of everything Yeah, I remember a friend came back from there. We were in early 20s like there's B in vending machines in Japan Couldn't believe it was like what so, what? So excited to tell me. He came home to tell you. Cut his trip short. Cameramelia, good to tell you. Dave, would you like to thank some people? Oh, fantastic.

Starting point is 01:19:34 I was just trying to count if it was up to me yet. Thank you so much to all the people so far, but let's keep it going from Baselden in Great Britain. Love that, Baselden. Sean Benson. Sean Benson. Sean Benson. Benson and Hedges. He's a gold medalist at Chain Smoking. It was an event in the 70s and then they went, oh, it's bad. So it's not there anymore. It has been replaced by skateboarding, which is now equally as dangerous.

Starting point is 01:20:06 They were big. And Nali. I'm pretty, yeah, I think they're a big cricket sponsor in the 90s, Benson and Hedges. That's all I associate with. Benson and Hedges Cup or something. Yeah. I didn't know that, there you go.

Starting point is 01:20:19 Well, you're not as old as the wind. I create my own. Thank you Sean. Roma Epsom in Victoria, I would like to thank Rebecca Fisher. Rebecca Fisher. Well, there's an obvious one there. She is a back chard merch collector. Yes. She is a back-jard merch collector.

Starting point is 01:20:45 Yes. Gold medal in collecting back-jard merch. That's probably the one we're all thinking. Yes. What sort of just for Tony, I not know what sort of merch back-jard has. What's her latest line? Oh, you would know better than me.

Starting point is 01:21:01 Did she make news when she was like selling t-shirts saying complaining about one lockdown or something? Yeah. Lockdown in her fucking mansion. Oh no. With a pool and a tennis court. And oh no, I'm stuck in my gigantic house. I do want to get locked in in that house.

Starting point is 01:21:21 I'd get locked in in that house tomorrow. And we come out of lockdown tomorrow. But I guess it put me back in. It's all relative right. If you were used to being able to be in there and anywhere else then that would be it would be a pain. But it was it. Matt, don't sympathize. I just it seemed like it wasn't quite reading the room at the time where everyone's locked down in their little places when you're going. Yes. Anyway, good on her. I'm in my one bedroom apartment. Yeah, nah.

Starting point is 01:21:49 Well, still, a gold medal must go to Rebecca Fisher for collecting all that merchandise. And I assume putting it in a bin. Thank you. Rebecca, taking it away from everyone. And finally, I'd like to thank from, I don't know, this place, one yasser in the Australian capital territory, Garth Vandorn. Oh, that's fantastic, mate. And at the R and the end of you, that's Vandorn's name, gave me a Garth Van Horn.

Starting point is 01:22:17 And I'm looking at it with quite small font here, Matt. And the R and the End seemed to run together. So I at first thought it was going to be Garth van Doom and I thought that was the call. That's the call. Garth van Doom. Should we get Garth to change his name, Durekin? I reckon. Dave, if you ever do a sequel to your book, one death to murderers, you should get Garth van

Starting point is 01:22:42 Doom in there. Oh, that's going to be the bad guy. Because I think people did request it. I'm sure that they want you to write a new story for a Patreon bonus episode. Well, what have I told you that I was clearing out stuff recently? And I found not a sequel, but another book

Starting point is 01:23:00 that a young David Warnie wrote. This one in grade three called Crusher. Wait, who's David Wanakie? The nephody's theory. It's David Wanakie. Hang on a second. That was my pen name is David Wanakie. They'll never guess.

Starting point is 01:23:18 They'll never guess. Oh, that's exciting. Wow, there's another one. When was the first one written? Oh, that was grade six. So this is three years worse than that. Can you imagine? I was going to be nice and say three years earlier, but three years worse is probably quite a bit easier. I'd love you to write an update though Dave, you got to write Garth Bandum into the story. Garth Bandum, please, someone remind me of that. I need to remember that name.

Starting point is 01:23:45 Garth Fendon. Garth Fendon. All right, he is the gold Olympic gold medalist in. What are we thinking? Oh, okay, yeah. Oh, yeah, we had to be talking about something. I thought you were working towards something there, but you were inviting help.

Starting point is 01:23:57 What about truck conversions? Oh, the get converts. In what? Into moving homes. Oh, love that. Wow, tiny homes. Yeah. At first I was thinking like transformers, but I thought that might have been difficult. So he converts trucks into killer robots. So depending on how much your budget is, he does one or the other. I love that. Like everyone gets the Olympics and everyone's got these beautiful tiny homes, but Garth

Starting point is 01:24:28 and Doran's just come along with Optimus Brom and they're like, give that man the medal. I mean, it's not quite what we were going for, but it is very impressive. That's very creative and honestly you haven't broken any rules, so here you go. Yeah. Nobody wrote into the rulebook that it couldn't be a transformer. So you got us on a discount. But we will write that in for next year. Your robot looks like it could kill us

Starting point is 01:24:51 if we don't give you the gold medal. So we're going to get it. It's looking at us with it's red. You're right about is pointing a gum. Yeah. Yeah. That's awesome. Congratulations, Garth.

Starting point is 01:25:01 Well, that leaves us with nothing else to do, but thank some of our great long-term supporters. We've opened up the Triptage Club a little while back for supporters who are on board from the shout out level. For three straight years, we invite them into the Triptage Club. It's a beautiful little spot. It's both in your mind,

Starting point is 01:25:19 but it's a real place as well in my heart. And in it, there's Boots, there's a bar, there's like a spa area where you can get massages. Oh yeah. There's, what are there's like a volleyball field? What happens in there just? We think the foosball or full volleyball field? Full volleyball field. full volleyball field and Fuzball. Yeah, is a Hello Pad. Yeah, if you want to fly in. And yeah, so anything anything anything we can imagine so far not that much, but anything you can imagine is Transformers. And so we're pretty much. And supporters for that period you're in and you're in for life. I'm sending the door. I've got the the guest list in my hot little hand. I'm ready to tick your names off as you're welcomed

Starting point is 01:26:10 in Dave. No, Jess, no, Dave will hype you up and then Jess will hype Dave up because he needs every hype man needs a hype woman or something like that. Jess, you've also, you normally come up with a special cocktail. Yes, well, to go with the color scheme of the Australian Olympic team, and also Kathy's swift suit, everything is gold and yellow. So drink-wise, it will be meduri-based cocktails. Love it. Food-wise, you're thinking broccoli, mango, peas, lemon, bowl of peas.

Starting point is 01:26:51 Bowl peas, if you want it. Yeah, so just anything green and yellow I've got. Yeah, just for the confused listen, as what Jess said, yellow and gold, there's also, there's green in there as well. Did I say yellow and gold? I really need to pay and it's affecting everything in yellow. Does he say yellow on the moon? Yeah. I quickly dove. Who's the band? Let's get just to that toilet. We've got Tina Arena covering the music of cheap trick. Oh fantastic. Oh, great. Look for that. I can't remember the name of the dream. Will you do, James? Are they dream police? No, I always get confused with

Starting point is 01:27:30 those old bands. Oh, but I thought it would be right in your wheelhouse. No, this is not in my wheelhouse. Cheap trick. People also ask what's cheap tricks biggest hit? I want you to want me. Oh, yep. Remember that one? And the flight. I think it was covered by a scar band for pop scar band for, um, let us declare. Oh, right. What was the movie? Uh, 10 things ahead about you. Mm-hmm.

Starting point is 01:27:57 Love that. I think it was let us declare. Please don't let me if I'm wrong. Just don't. I can't hate on it. I'll say I personally need to know. No, don't. There's quite a few inductees this week. So I think we're going to get, we're going to handle it. She needs to know. No, don't quite a few inductees

Starting point is 01:28:06 this week. So I think we're going to get we're going to hit it with a real great pace. Are you ready Dave to? Dave, there's like 16. So I'll let's do one H. We'll kick we'll. Okay, thanks. I appreciate that a lot. I think of that. First up from Rollins in Wyoming in the United States is Jacob Vallo. Ooh, keep rolling, rolling, rolling. Yeah! Yes! I was gonna say Vallo! That's good! Vallo and keep rolling, rolling, rolling. From Fluegaville in Texas, the United States is John Paul Mbachu.

Starting point is 01:28:44 Well, I'm all Mbachu. And I'm gonna get to know you a little bit. Come on in. Incredible. From London in Great Britain, it's Alexander Jen Muhammad. Uh, Jahanmed at Hello. Like you had me at Hello. You had Kahn as well?

Starting point is 01:29:02 That's something, yes. We've got so many. From Rhodes in New South Wales, Australia, it's Kayla Atkins. Well, I'm on the Atkin diet of you. Yeah, you're a part of the Atkins diet. From episode 9, return to sender, it's Elis De Magrega. Elis De U. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:29:25 Some sort of dare. Yeah, it's good. Alistair wins. Who dares wins? Who Alistair wins? Yes, there it is. Let me try. Who Alistair wins?

Starting point is 01:29:36 From Gero in Cornwall, great Britain, it's Nick Lane. Lane on me. Nick Lane? Yes, God, you're good tonight. Come on in. Ever in Washington, I think, in the United States, it's Richard Compo. Oh, you've got all the Compo tickets you want tonight, my friend. Yeah, bring your friends if you want.

Starting point is 01:29:58 Bro, look. Perth in Western Australia, it's Jessica Bannerzack. Well, Bannerzack. And I am Banner-Zack. Well, Banner-Zack. And I am Banner-Zack about you. Okay, you're not gonna explain that one. Like Banner-Z, I'm gonna answer me. Love it, I didn't get it, but I was just there for you.

Starting point is 01:30:16 Thank you, that's all you have to do, that's all. Hept an ace in Victoria, Australia, it's Adam Tregir. Thank God you're Tiggier. Yes. Woo, get your ass in Triggier. Yes. All right. That one may most of it. From Charlotte. Thank God you're here. Thank God you're here. You got that right? I got a Triggier. I don't know if you're amazing. Listen, as we'll get the reference to a 15 year old Australian comedy, but from Shadon in Ohio, United States, it's Glenn Mitchell. Well, Shadon me and come on in, Glenn Mitchell.

Starting point is 01:30:56 I don't know, I do Shadon. Fuck. Shadon, that's honestly. It was that meant to be part of me because it sounds like. Yes. Like, shit. Shadon me because it sounds like, yes. Like shit shut up on me. Shut up on me. Okay, Dave was better.

Starting point is 01:31:08 No, just you have been at a 99% hit rate this week. I've gotta say, you are on fire. Thank you so much. That's keep it. From Red Lion in Pennsylvania, the United States, it's Luke Harbour. Harbour. Ooh, I'd be red lion if I didn't say I was excited

Starting point is 01:31:23 to see you. Yes. Yes. Yes. From Yokain in Western Australia, it's Andrew Martin. Oh, we do. Something about your kind. What about your two kind? Yes, your two kind Andrew Martin.

Starting point is 01:31:40 Yeah, there it is. I don't think that is where it is, but look at it. I love this next place, Clarence Town. You know, Uncle uses that as a shorthand for the sea bomb, Clarence, huh? These Clarence Towns. Clarence Towns. From Clarence Town in New South Wales, Australia, Joe Anna Wade. You Anna, no Clarence.

Starting point is 01:32:02 It's something like you ain't no Clarence. Or, we've been waiting through some people tonight, but I am stoked to have you hear more than anyone so far, something like that. You Joana made my day. Yes, yes, that's, there it is. Delete the rest, love that. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:32:17 From Kingsford and New South Wales Australia, it's Eric S. Lee. And I am. Something on King. Yeah, okay, okay, yep. The King, you are driving the King's Ford. He's car. Wow.

Starting point is 01:32:36 You're chauffeur to the King. Yeah, of course he is. Of course he got a chauffeur. From Perth in... Wait, let me just double check that for Australia No, it's from Perth in Great Britain in Scotland. It's Christopher skilling Wow You have got the skills my friend you've got the skills

Starting point is 01:32:58 Christopher skill and always up skilling. Yeah, always up skilling We've lost momentum. Let's hit this last one hard. We're from Pierre in South Dakota in the United States. It's Alan Haasdad. Come on, you should do this so quick. Like, okay, you have a go then. Uh, it's not so hard, Dad. Alan's the easiest dad is the best. Good on you. Welcome, Bill and my man.

Starting point is 01:33:26 Yes, Alan. The beauty of it is to be daved and think and it's say something awful. You guys are now trying to be too good at it. Oh, I think that was like 16 of them. That was hard. You do lose a bit of the mentor. Oh, and I'll give you notes off Pod like normal.

Starting point is 01:33:41 So we don't have to do it here. We get berated. What were you thinking? You embarrassed me out there tonight. Well, that brings us to the end of the episode. What a fun time we've had. Hopefully. Hopefully we've had some fun here.

Starting point is 01:33:56 I mean, at least I'm that fun. I've had a mildly good time. Well, I enjoyed your report. I enjoyed you reading out those names, Matt. And I think it's safe to say that Jess and I get the gold medal for those shout outs at the end. Oh, big time. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:34:12 That was an endurance. Thanks so much. To all the names we read out in the second half of the show. Honestly, keep the show running. You're the best. Love you all individually and uniquely. And if people want to join that list of fantastic names, you can go to patreon.com slash do go on pod or just do go on pod.com. We can also find links to our Facebook, Instagram, Twitter,

Starting point is 01:34:36 our email do go on pod at gmr.com, our YouTube channel. And we should also say that the episodes we filmed live in Melbourne back in April and May are of March and April. I should say are available at sospresents.com and there was a link in the description of this episode and you get to see and hear stuff that people didn't hear on the normal episodes as well as a little bit of bonus content at the end of each of those. A lot of fun. Big shout out to great listener and friend of the show Vincent Chan for editing that package together. Yeah, really good stuff.

Starting point is 01:35:14 You made us look good, Vinnie. We appreciate it. For as good as you could love you, Vinnie. Yeah, you did good stuff with what you were comparatively good. Yeah, we are dog shit people, so well done. But yeah, we'll be back next week with another episode, but until then we'll say thanks for listening and I'll say goodbye. Later. Bye.

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