Do Go On - 474 - Anastasia Romanov and her Many Imposters

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

On the second most voted for topic of Block 2024, we talk about Anastasia Romanov (daughter of Tsar Nicholas II) and her Many Imposters!This is a comedy/history podcast, the report about the murders b...egins at approximately 07:40 (though as always, we go off on tangents throughout the report).For all our important links: https://linktr.ee/dogoonpod Check out our other podcasts:Book Cheat: https://play.acast.com/s/book-cheatPrime Mates: https://play.acast.com/s/prime-mates/Listen Now: https://play.acast.com/s/listen-now/Who Knew It with Matt Stewart: https://play.acast.com/s/who-knew-it-with-matt-stewart/Our awesome theme song by Evan Munro-Smith and logo by Peader ThomasDo Go On acknowledges the traditional owners of the land we record on, the Wurundjeri people, in the Kulin nation. We pay our respects to elders, past and present. REFERENCES AND FURTHER READING:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Duchess_Anastasia_Nikolaevna_of_Russiahttps://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2016/05/110617/anna-anderson-anastasia-romanov-impostorhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputinhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_the_Romanov_family Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are about to board our plane to Europe. Toot toot! I cannot wait. Jess is taking a train. That's what we're doing. We're at the train session. Toot toot. Toot toot! Aerotrain. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:01:06 unused data roll over to the following month every month. At Fizz you always get more for your money. Terms and conditions for our different programs and policies apply details at fizz.ca Hello and welcome to another episode of Do Go One. My name is Dave Warnocky and as always, I'm here with Jess Perkins and Matt Stewart. Yes! Hell yeah! Dave, so pumped to be here. Cheerful Earful Festival.
Starting point is 00:01:44 That's right. We're live at Cheerful Earful from Stupid Old Studios and it is also Blockbuster Toba. Slash Blovember by the time this one comes out. Yes. Wow. Huge. Yes, of course, if people don't know, the whole idea of Blocktober is the biggest, the best and the brightest topics. Presented by the biggest, the best and the brightest topics. Presented by the biggest, the best and the brightest podcasters. Biggest, best, brightest.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Yeah, I'll take that. Day one was ironic again. But anyway, yeah, that's it, right? That's what we do. And we're into Blovember now. We've annexed Blovember from, let's start off as just October. Now we're doing two months. That's how big block has become.
Starting point is 00:02:32 It's too big. It's almost too big. So what is this, the fourth most popular or third most popular topic? I thought we're at number two. I think we might be at, I don't remember. Holy shit. Oh my gosh, let me just quick do a little check here.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And then we'll edit this later. So it sounds like we all definitely are going to. Yeah. And then we'll all get pumped. While Dave's looking at it, you can ask the question about if people have, who here has heard the podcast? Okay. Yeah. Um, who here has heard this podcast before? What? Wow. I have.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Those are, those are good numbers. Anybody been dragged here by a friend or loved one? Yeah. Welcome. Thanks for coming. Yeah. Yeah. I'm frightened. What's happening?
Starting point is 00:03:12 And you should be. We are the bad boys of podcasting and we're going, we're gonna fuck you up. Mug of tea. You know that straight whiskey in there. That's better for my throat. If this is your first ever episode, I can't believe it. You are here in time for Blockbustertober slash November's second most voted for topic of the year.
Starting point is 00:03:42 This is number two. Number two. Number two. And we number two. Woo. Number two. Number two. And we only have an hour. So we're going to fit a really, really big topic. It's going to be a lot of, you know, just a quick abridged. Anyway, we'll get to it. Yeah, great.
Starting point is 00:03:57 You'll see everything will be fine. It is my turn. I love that we're in swivel chairs too. So I can do a bit of this. Yeah. Hello. David, hello. And I can do a bit of this. Goodbye. Matthew, you're looking well.
Starting point is 00:04:09 And you too. Did you know these are the podcast chairs? What? The studio chairs. Let's say why they feel so comfortable. Yeah, we demanded them because we feel natural in these chairs. We take them everywhere we go. When we're in Europe next month, carry on only.
Starting point is 00:04:26 I won't sit on anything else. Yeah. We didn't even pay for seats on the plane. We said, no, we'll BYO, thank you. Okay. So my question, to get us onto the topic for my friend at the back who has no idea what's going on. We start with a question.
Starting point is 00:04:40 My question is, this can be for the audience as well. Which animated 1997 film has this star-studded cast? Anastasia. Yep. Well, you are like a walking, talking IMDB over there. That is incredible. Where were you when you first saw the film? Well, my younger sister got it on, I think it was on VHS. Maybe DVD, maybe from Bali, I'm not sure. But it was in the house a long time. I don't think I've ever seen it, but I have seen the box and the year it came out.
Starting point is 00:05:21 Wow. Dave told me backstage that he knows who Anastasia is and knows that it's a movie called Anastasia, but never knew they were about the same person. Yeah. And is the triptych complete? Is it also the I'm Outta Love singer as well? Is that the same person? Yes. Or the same person? All the same.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. God, I love Anastasia. The singer, not the movie or the historical figure. Well, yeah, that was the weirdest Anastasia impressive. She's like famously got a deep voice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's play the song. Come on. That was an accurate impression. I know Anastasia. She's back of the throat.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I'm a little bit weird. That's also a good attitude, but sometimes she goes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know. Yeah. That's that right? Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. I love it. I was honestly, that was meant to be a joke answer on a stage of the movie. It's crazy that that was right. Is correct. Um, Do you want to hear the cast or? Yeah, tell me who's in the movie. Hank Azaria. Hank Azaria. Angela Lansbury.
Starting point is 00:06:31 Whoa. Kelsey Grammer. Christopher Lloyd. I put in Kirsten Dunst. That was a little bit of like a red herring kind of, she played like young Anastasia. Oh, good red herring. I would have got it though. John Cusack and Meg Ryan. Holy shit. Star Studded. Great film. Who made it? Was it like a DreamWorks or? It was one of them. Yeah, I'll tell you that much. But it wasn't one of the it wasn't one of the real ones.
Starting point is 00:06:55 I wasn't one of the real ones. Fox. Fox. Thank you so much. I have been growing into my head and. Sorry is that I was getting a little compliment from the front row. I didn't get that at all. Thank you so much. What is he talking about? Fox. Oh, you're a fox. Yeah, that's just so the opposite of the truth. I was like, this can't be. Okay, so then who is a fox?
Starting point is 00:07:31 Fox material right here. Okay. Sorry. All right. I was so confused. So our second most voted for topic. Yes. Is it the movie Anastasia? What's happening?
Starting point is 00:07:42 Unfortunately, not the movie. It's the real person. It's the Grand Duchess Anastasia Romanoff and her many imposters. Well, mostly one, but there were others. Anyway, so this is, yeah. I, did anybody else like watch that movie quite a lot as a child? Right. So, but I knew not a lot about the real person other than Meg Ryan's beautiful portrayal. Right. Just gorgeous. Yeah. Lovely stuff. Beautiful music. Do yourself a favor. Go find that VHS or Barley DVD. Is this normal for cartoons from our childhood to be based on real things? Surely not. Seven doors?
Starting point is 00:08:27 Well, I mean, yeah. Lion King obviously is real. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hell. Yeah, shit. Okay. There's a few, but we also had childhoods at very different times. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:36 So I can't answer that on behalf of us because I'm incredibly young. Yeah. You, you know, the Anastasia story from the cartoon. I know it from my mate, Anastasia. She told, she filmed me in. We used to catch up for coffees. Anyway. Okay. So here we go. This is the story of Grand Duchess Anastasia, who was born in 1901,
Starting point is 00:09:04 the fourth daughter of Tsar Nicholas II and Tsarina Alexandra. Nicholas II was a descendant of the House of Romanovs. They were the reigning imperial house dating back to 1613. They'd been around for quite some time. Fun fact, they achieved prominence after Anastasia Romanova married Ivan the Terrible, the first crowned Tsar of Russia. Right. That was just a name I recognized vaguely. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:31 I thought somebody will make sense of that. Is that, do you know why he's terrible? Is it? Odour. Oh. Yeah. Oh. Dave the Terrible.
Starting point is 00:09:44 I'm sitting in my own pong. But Romanova married Ivan the Terrible. Ivan the Terrible. There's a lot of Anastasia's, a lot of Nicholas's, a lot of Alexander's. It's very confusing. Well, there's only one Ivan the Terrible, isn't there? That's true. So that's something to be said about smelling really badly. That's what I'm going for. Anyway, so baby Anastasia comes along and everyone is very, very disappointed. Another girl, yuck. Oh, I see. She wasn't a particularly disappointing girl.
Starting point is 00:10:13 She was just a girl in general. They were like, for fuck's sake, they had four girls and like, fuck, no, because they wanted a boy who could be obviously the heir to the throne. And so her father went for a long walk to compose himself before going to visit his wife and their newborn child for the first time. He's a long walk muttering to himself, fucking girl, fuck that again. Jesus, come on, sperm, come on. Come on. Come on, you'll be a mask on sperm.
Starting point is 00:10:41 You boy. Come on, boy. Yeah. Yeah, something like that. Oh, that having a chat to his sperm. Come on. A writer by the name of Burton Holmes wrote, Nicholas would part with half his empire in exchange for one imperial boy. An imperial boy. That's a measurement.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Yeah. I'm a metric boy. That's a measurement. I'm a metric boy. Don't feel too bad for them though. I didn't, but anyway, they had a boy, Alexei, three years later. Thank God. None of these stinking girls. Disgusting. Despite their position in Russia and their wealth, the Tsar's children were
Starting point is 00:11:25 raised as simply as possible. They slept on hard camp cots without pillows. They took cold baths in the morning and they were expected to tidy their rooms and do needlework to be sold at various charity events when they were not otherwise occupied. I think it was like a sweatshop. Yeah. What is the point of being a royal if you have to have a cold bath? Fully agree. Yeah. No wonder he smelled so terrible. Yeah. He's like, it's warm or nothing.
Starting point is 00:11:47 Yeah. Oh my God. Anastasia was short, blonde haired and blue eyed and was a vivacious and energetic child. A governess to the four Grand Duchesses said one person commented that the toddler Anastasia had the greatest personal charm of any child she'd ever seen. A toddler? Until 1990. Dave!
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah. Wow. I came along and I was charming that hospital room. Personal charm. You should have seen Dave's mum arrive at the hospital. She walked up, straight in her bed, foomp, straight out. It was the coolest shit those midwives had ever seen. Straight out and I didn't walk, I moonwalked there.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Worm walked, nah. That's pretty good. Nah, that's good. That was pretty good, yeah. So she was this very naughty, very funny, chaotic, witty, very lovable child. See how he was really cool and smooth before? It does feel like a real yin and yang thing going on. The coolest man in the room and...
Starting point is 00:12:50 Point Dexter over here. God, I've never been cool before. This is awesome. I feel powerful. Yeah, I think you're going to ruin it any minute. I thought it would go down lower. Turns out it was pretty low. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:12 Hey. Stop flirting with the audience. Please do go on. A second question for the audience. The 1997 film Anastasia. Christopher Lloyd voices which character? Rasputin. Wow, previous topic.
Starting point is 00:13:31 Have we done Rasputin? We've done Rasputin. We don't lie for 100 episodes. Episode 100, and I'm pretty sure Anastasia, yeah, yeah, yeah, came up at that episode too. We are predictable. We are so predictable. We could name two of our songs, we're like, are there any others? And a guy with a beat up the back yelled out, We are predictable. We are so predictable.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Because we could name two of our songs and we're like, are there any others? And a guy with a beat up the back yelled out, left outside alone. Like it was the moment he'd been waiting for his entire life. It was the coolest thing. That's so fun. And Christopher Lloyd, of course, is the doc in Back to the Future, another early episode of ours. That one I remember us doing. Did not know we'd done Rasputin. Remember we talked about his Magic Dick? What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:12 And here's the thing, I've got a little section on him. Do I need to do it? What, does the dick come up? In a way. Did you know, fun fact, Magic Dick is the name of the harmonica player from that band that sang Whamma Jamma. Anybody think that was fun? Jay Giles band.
Starting point is 00:14:36 That's my dad who told me that fact. So any doubt about me. He's very disappointed in you. He might have also been the guy left outside alone. It was a very similar tone. I do think it was another one of your relatives. It was. No, no, no, that was a different show.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Oh, do you reckon it was that one as well? Because remember there was another show where another one of your family members heckled, but it was very good. It was like, it made the whole show better. Yes. Unlike any, you. Anyway. The person who hasn't heard a show of this before, so this is the most convoluted, dull,
Starting point is 00:15:12 self-referential bullshit I've ever seen. And we've been doing this for nearly 10 years. Every episode we get one of Matt's family members to come in, yell something out, and then we work with it. That's what we do. It's improv, baby. yell something out and then we work with it. That's what we do. It's improv, baby. Sorry, Rasputin, you can give us a recap. It's been years. I don't talk about it for long.
Starting point is 00:15:29 It was just that as a kid who loved this film so much, I was like, wow, he was real. I want to know more about, you know what I mean? Like I, anyway, so Grigory, Rasputin. You didn't know he was real even though we did an episode on him. I don't know a lot of things, Dev. Yeah, good. Sorry, please tell us about him.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Did you say his name's Grigory? Yeah. That's sick. Grigory. Grigory. Like it's Gregory with an I. Yeah. That's...
Starting point is 00:15:54 He's Russian. That's the best thing I've heard since that magic dick thing I said just before. He was a Russian mystic and faith healer who in the early 1900s gained a reputation in Siberia as a wise spiritual advisor who could help people resolve their spiritual crises and anxieties. Handy. Yeah. We all need one of those.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Despite rumours that Rasputin was having sex with female followers, he made a favourable impression on several local religious leaders. One of these religious leaders was a guy called Theophan of Poltava, a Russian archbishop who was well connected in St. Petersburg society and later served as confessor to the imperial family. So he was very impressed with Rasputin. He invited him to stay in his home. He went on to become one of Rasputin's most important friends in St. Petersburg, gaining him entry to many of the influential salons
Starting point is 00:16:46 where the local aristocracy gathered for religious discussions. He first, Rasputin first met Nicholas, the Tsar, big deal, on, in November of 1905. Was he on one of his long walks? He ran into Rasputin and turned the shows. Fuck it, kids are these fuckers. No, he had a boy by then, he was happy. He's on one of his long- He's skipping, he's on one of these big skips.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I've got a boy! Life's good when you have a son! So they met in 1905. A year later, Nicholas and Alexandra became convinced that Rasputin possessed the miraculous power to heal their only son, Alexei, who suffered from hemophilia. A British historian, Harold Shookman, wrote that Rasputin became an indispensable member of the royal entourage. They really trusted him. This is from wikipedia.org. It's a Russian website. I haven't heard of it.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Yeah. No, it's got heaps of stuff about Russia and shit. It's cool. It's in English though, which is awesome. You guys are the best. Truly. We say the most dull shit and you're like, and we don't deserve it. So nice. You're doing a good work. So good. She said it's in English. Have you ever had the thought that our parents got together and just paid off people to encourage you know, just go, you go along and you know, say yes, well done. Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:13 I really think this is the reason my parents can't afford to travel. You know, like it's all going here. And they're just like, she's having a good time. She's out of our head. Don't worry about it. She'd just be here talking to us otherwise. Who needs a holiday when you can just live without jazz? Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:18:30 Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.
Starting point is 00:18:37 During the summer of 1912, Alexei developed a hemorrhage in his thigh and groin after a jolting carriage ride near the Imperial hunting grounds of Spalaala which caused a large hematoma. I don't understand most of those words. In severe pain and delirious with fever, Alexei appeared close to death. In desperation, Alexandra asked someone to send Rasputin, who was in Siberia, a telegram asking him to pray for Alexei. Rasputin wrote back quickly telling the Zarina that,
Starting point is 00:19:05 God has seen your tears and heard your prayers. Do not grieve. The little one will not die. Do not allow the doctors to bother him too much. Tell the doctors just back off. Yeah, tell the afternoon off. Chill. Anyway, the next morning Alexei's condition was unchanged, but Alexandra was encouraged by the message and regained some hope that he would survive. His bleeding stopped the next day. Explain that. Explain that.
Starting point is 00:19:36 You can't. Is it because he died? Problem solved. He's not in pain, is he? The doctor comes out and the good news is the bleeding has stopped. Bad news is sort of. Bad news is sort of. Sorry, I've got to go.
Starting point is 00:19:57 One of the physicians who attended Alexei, Dr Fedorov, admitted that the recovery was wholly inexplicable from a medical point of view. Wholly H-O-L-Y? No. Later that same doctor admitted that Alexandra could not be blamed for seeing Rasputin as a miracle man. Rasputin would come in, walk up to the patient, look at him and spit. No other context given. The bleeding would stop in no time. How could the Empress not trust Rasputin after that? Makes sense, doesn't it? Anyway, so they, the family,
Starting point is 00:20:35 the imperial family, they believed in Rasputin's healing powers and that brought him considerable status and power at court. But he soon became a controversial figure. He was accused by his enemies of religious heresy and sexual abuse, was suspected of exerting undue political influence over the czar and was even rumored to be having an affair with the czarina, Alexandra. So what the the queen, this czar queen is called the czarina. Yeah, that's it. Isn't that cool? Is that something that everyone knew already? I've neverarina. Yeah. That's sick. Isn't that cool? Is that something that everyone knew already?
Starting point is 00:21:08 I've never heard. Yep. I feel like I've never heard that before, but almost definitely in the Rasputin episode. We probably had this exact moment. Do you think I should start listening to this podcast? Yeah. I've listened to early episodes and I want to strangle myself. Honestly, we could be replaced by a soundboard with like six buttons.
Starting point is 00:21:33 One of them's me going, I didn't realize that. One's just me going, because that's, let's be real, that's my main contribution. Eventually, a group of nobles decided that Rasputin's influence over Alexandra threatened the Russian Empire and they conducted a plan to execute him. The story goes that Rasputin was offered tea and cakes laced with cyanide and yet he didn't die. Explain that. Explain that.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Then he asked for wine, also had cyanide in it, still didn't die. Explain that. Explain that. Then he asked for wine. Uh, also had cyanide in it. Still didn't die. They're like, the fuck? He's only getting stronger. Yeah. Then he asked for a shot of cyanide. Didn't die. And they were like, great. Yeah. For sure. Yeah, we got heaps of that. Yeah. They're trying to poison him. Won't work. So then they shot him and he still didn't die. And they shot him heaps and dumped him in a river and he died. He definitely died. But that was sort of the story that went modern analysis says most of this is probably not true.
Starting point is 00:22:40 I reckon they just like shot him in the head and he was dead. But there were stories for a very long time that like he was unkillable right up until they killed him. I mean most people are. No, no, no, but he was like extra unkillable. So not like, not super duper important to this story, but I had to include him even though apparently we have a whole fucking episode on it. And someone would have just heard it as well, you know, someone would have just been like, yep. Yep. You've said all that.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Made that joke. Yep. You reference something else from an earlier episode and Jess said, I don't remember that episode. I know it's getting old. I agree. The cycle continues. One day that'll happen with this episode. Yeah. Yeah. Tomorrow. Genuinely, sometimes I get home from work and someone asks, what was today's topic?
Starting point is 00:23:32 And I go, and even if I did it, gone. Jess is the only one that refers to this as work, but genuinely, it's really, I find it funny. funny I'm like this with that friend. But Jess has to work with us and she's like, this is all. It is work. OK, it's very valid work. I think you're putting up for that. That's why, but ANZ doesn't think so, because they would not approve me for a credit card. That's true. They were like, this seems bullshit.
Starting point is 00:24:18 Oh, you're a podcaster. OK, cancel, cancel, cancel. In fact, we're closing your bank accounts. OK, yeah, cancel. In fact, we're closing your bank accounts. Okay, yeah, fair. Okay, so what happens next is the Russian Revolution. Again, a pretty big time. Have we done that? Fucking probably.
Starting point is 00:24:35 A very big, very, very big thing that I will try to summarize. So Tsar Nicholas II, he had been Emperor of Russia since November of 1894. Prior to the start of World War I, he'd suffered humiliation in the Russo-Japan War of 1904 to 1905, which combined with domestic economic problems had led- And Rene Russo. That's how I... Because I was like, how do you say this? And I looked it up on YouTube and the first person said, Russo-Japan. I went, like, Rene Russo.
Starting point is 00:25:04 And I don't care if they were wrong. It's Rousseau now. Rousseau took on Japan. It was crazy. It was like a pretty close battle. Yeah. It was actually sick. Yeah. Renee was on fire. Like full Rambo'd it. Yeah. It was fucking cool actually. Is anyone familiar with Rene Russo? Actor from the past? Well, from 1904.
Starting point is 00:25:30 But can I just double check? Sure. Zara Nicholas, is he the one who's like cousins to King George and Will Helm and stuff? Yes. Yeah, right. That's a crazy... Isn't that crazy? Like Queen Victoria's-
Starting point is 00:25:45 Dave didn't even give me a chance to answer. Yeah. I knew. Cause he's like, she's got no fucking idea. I thought you'd be like, I don't know. So I thought we'll pretend that Jess does. Yes, Jess and I agree, yes. Cause yeah, you did a whole quiz show about Queen Victoria
Starting point is 00:26:02 and they're all her grandkids or something. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, amazing. Really interesting and fun. And that's what you come to these shows for. Anyway, so there'd been the Rousseau, Rene Rousseau Japan War. And then there was like a lot of economic problems. It led to a wave of unrest and then the Russian Revolution.
Starting point is 00:26:24 It included worker strikes, peasant unrest and military mutinies. To appease the unrest, the Tsar reluctantly enacted reforms, such as establishing the state Duma, which is like a democratic parliament, and the Russian Constitution of 1906. Despite popular participation in the Duma, the parliament was unable to issue laws of its own and frequently came into conflict with Nicholas who continually undermined its authority and dissolved the Duma three times just to like keep people he liked in it and every time they'd come up with something he'd go no. He's like yeah okay you want democracy cool cool cool here you go have your little thing you guys can make
Starting point is 00:27:01 some decisions that's a really cute decision. No. And I, I like that. But, but some people didn't like that. So apparently. Whoops. They basically set up an SRC council, you know. So they meet with, were you ever on it? I was on it one year in, in year nine. And we'd go to have a meeting with the principal
Starting point is 00:27:23 and we're like, so the students, we want a deep fry in the canteen. And, and, uh, the Alf, the Alf, the principal was like, your principal was just called Elf. I think that's right. It was a long time ago. He loved eating cats. I think that's right. It was a long time ago. I gotta tell you. He loved eating cats.
Starting point is 00:27:49 He would just pretend like, yeah, oh yeah, interesting. Yeah, I'll put it to the board and we'll talk about it. But obviously he never, he's like writing down, yep, yep, yep, blah, blah, blah. It's the same thing every time. He must like, ahead of that meeting have bets going with the other teachers. Like, what do you reckon it'll be? Pizza oven or deep fry? Every time.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Because as a kid, you're like, this is how we really affect change. Yeah. You walk in there, you're like, we want school to start at 11 AM every day and only have two periods and then we all get to go home and a water slide in the canteen. Elf's like, yeah. Yeah, that's a great idea. I'll write that down. Yeah, brother Alf. I'm pretty sure it is. Brother Alf. I'm pretty sure that's what it is. Hey guys, I'm cool. Call me brother Alf. Yeah, come on. Hit me. Wax with me, man. What do you want? Deep fry? Yeah, yeah. Chica rolls, they're cool.
Starting point is 00:28:45 I'm brother of- I'm a cool principle. So he's like that to an entire government. But probably a little less cool. Cause he's quite a conservative leader. He had a very sort of strict authoritarian system. He saw himself as a saintly and infallible father to his people, which I think is a cool way as a saintly and infallible father to his people, which
Starting point is 00:29:06 I think is a cool way to view yourself. Unlike your cool dad. Um, I'm your brother. Nicholas, what the hell are you talking about? Don't call me Nicholas. Call me father in the lead up to world war one, rapid industrialization in the cities led to overcrowding and poor working conditions in the factories. Peasants in the rural areas were also struggling to survive on small plots of land.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Thankfully, the Tsar thought joining World War I would solve a few of his problems. He's like, people are pretty upset and there's a lot of unrest. Let's get in on this war. Distract them. They'll love it. He thought it would restore their prestige after the embarrassing Russo-Japan war that didn't go very well for them. He's like, that'll be cool.
Starting point is 00:29:54 We'll look like we're pretty badass. He also believed it would mitigate the social unrest over the persistent issues of poverty, inequality and inhumane working conditions. Yeah, yeah. I'm not really sure how that would work. Get them in the trenches. Yeah. He's like, Daniel, Ihumane working conditions. Yeah, yeah. I'm not really sure how that would work. Get them in the trenches. Yeah, it's like Daniel,
Starting point is 00:30:07 I like these fucking conditions. Poverty feels awesome now. You do know we've done a two part episode about World War I? I was definitely listening. Instead of restoring Russia's political and military standing, World War I led to the
Starting point is 00:30:26 slaughter of Russian troops and military defeats. It did not go super well. So the Tsar made the situation worse by taking personal control of the Imperial Russian Army in 1915, which he did not have the skills or qualifications to do. He was like, I'll handle this. So he took charge, which is always good. By the end of 1915, there were many signs that the economy was breaking down under the heightened strain of wartime demand. The main problems were strikes, crime, food shortages, rising prices.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Working class women in St. Petersburg reportedly spent about 40 hours a week in food lines. They're doing a full-time job just trying to get food. It's fucked. Wanna be a good restaurant. Sorry, what's the wait? It's about 40 hours. Perfect. Yeah, yeah, no, we'll join the line, thank you. Then gnocchi is to die for.
Starting point is 00:31:22 What was the first thing I thought it was gnocchi? That is fancy. That's funny. And Russian. I was the first thing I thought I was yoking? That is fancy. And Russian. I was trying to think of a fancy food person and the first thing I'm like, I was going to say Matt Preston recommended it. Ooh la la. He wears cravats. There's nothing fancier. That was actually a very good instinct you had.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Thank you so much. He's a fancy guy. He's a fancy guy. He's a fancy man. Anyway, so there were huge protests. There was a big demonstration that coincided with International Women's Day as people were already out sort of like, you know, demonstrating for women. And then there was just got added to, so there's just a lot of people out in the streets.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Can I just, sorry, can I just say, I would have been at that. It's the kind of thing I'd go to. Women's day. Yeah, when is International Women's Day? Oh, for me every day. You clapped that. Have some shame. But even back then, 100 years ago, there's women marching for their riots and other people
Starting point is 00:32:37 go, oh, that's a good idea. I'll march for my riots and overtaking their day. But so to quell the riots, the Tsar got the army involved and there was about 12,000 soldiers ready available, but very few of them wanted to shoot women. Allies. There was just one really weird guy saying, I'll do it. Somebody else just taking his gun. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll do it. No, that's all right, mate. That's okay. So yeah, good thing it was International Women's Day. Otherwise heaps of people would have been killed, but they didn't
Starting point is 00:33:13 want to shoot women. I'm just trying to say they didn't love the Tsar. He was advised by the army chief and deputies to abdicate. And so he did on March 15th on behalf of himself. And then taking the advice, he also abdicated on behalf of his son, Alexei. He nominated his brother, the Grand Duke, Michael Alexandrovich to succeed him. But the Grand Duke realized he would have very little support as a ruler. So he said, I'm good. No, thank you. Stating he would only take it if there was consensus of democratic action. So he's kind of like, cause like he could probably see that people are plotting to kill his brother and he's like, I don't want to be a part of that. So, um, there's a sniper spot on him. I'm actually, I'm actually okay. I'm I'm okay. I'm with whatever you guys think.
Starting point is 00:34:05 You guys, you don't like, yeah, I don't like him either. I think whatever you want is probably the best idea. Shoot women, don't shoot women. I'm with you. Whichever way it is. The aftermath of the February revolution led to the Duma setting up a provisional government. The government had to contend with the Petrograd Soviets, so the workers councils. There was like a system of dual power.
Starting point is 00:34:25 It was a very messy time. While some political freedoms increased, they continued to rule with an iron fist, killing hundreds of protesters throughout the summer. So it wasn't really like a nice resolution. It was kind of kept going. While initially bloodless, the Russian Civil War was soon underway from 1918 between liberal and monarchist forces loosely organized into the white army and the Bolsheviks Red Army. So in early March 1917, I'm glad we chose this one as a live report. Yeah. We thought which ones are going to make good live report? This is a good one. I am loving it. There's so much war and I've just gotten to the subheading death.
Starting point is 00:35:07 It says death on your screen. Yeah, I had to break it up into subheadings easier for my brain to organize the information when I'm writing it and so now we're up to death. So that's good. In March 1917, the provisional government placed Nicholas and his family under house arrest in the Alexander Palace. Oh, so sad. Remember Beck Judd in lockdown? They're like, let us out.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Let us out of our million dollar homes. I've got children in their own wings and it's hard. It's that kind of vibe. They're in house arrest, but in a fucking palace. She sounds like Anastasia. Let me out of my mansion. sounds like Anastasia. So that was March in August. They evacuated the Romanovs to, to the Ural mountains. Ooh, beautiful spot. Yeah, scenic, lovely.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Good for urine retract infections. And that was to protect them from the rising tide of revolution. The stress and uncertainty of captivity. When they're a tide riser, you go to the mountains. That makes sense. It does make sense, yeah. Stop looking out to them. It makes them uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:36:24 Just double checking that everyone got it. That was pretty clever. Don't want to leave anyone behind. We're all getting that one. Pretty clever stuff, that one. Got a couple of thumbs there, Jess. Yeah, because you were begging for it. They were pity thumbs and you know it.
Starting point is 00:36:44 Yeah, their faces didn't really sell the thumb, to be honest. begging for it. They were pity thumbs and you know it. Yeah, their faces didn't really sell the thumb to be honest. Sell the thumb. So it was obviously a stressful and uncertain time. I took a toll on the family. Anastasia apparently wrote to a friend, goodbye, don't forget us. It's a bit grim, isn't it? Thanks for coming to the live show. After the Bolsheviks came into power in October of 1917, the conditions of their imprisonment grew stricter and talk of putting Nicholas on trial increased. Again, they were moved to a different place, a stronghold. They were sort of more isolated to kind of keep them, keep them away from people who
Starting point is 00:37:27 would have been coming to save them, you know, make it harder. So negotiations for the release of the Romanovs between their Bolshevik captors and their extended family, many of whom were prominent members of the royal houses of Europe. Did you know that? Stalled. Those accounts stalled. King George said he would take Nicholas in and then he welched on the deal. Oh.
Starting point is 00:37:50 Yeah, brutal. So, oh yeah, oh no, I can't actually. Nicholas is at the castle door, ringing the doorbell. He's on the ring cam. I know you can see me. I know you're in there. Oh, hey mate, now I'm out. Oh, I'm in, I'm in. Yeah, this is the, I'm just calling, I'm remoting in. Yeah. This is so embarrassing. I've just gone to the Ural Mountains.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Oh, I was coming to you. We swapped over to you. Oh, you're a care package. Oh, it's embarrassing. But yeah, your visa has been revoked, so. On the night of the 17th of July, the family was awoken and told to get dressed. They were told they were being moved to a new location to ensure their safety in anticipation of the violence that might ensue when the White Army reached them. Once dressed, the family and
Starting point is 00:38:38 the small circle of servants who had remained with them were herded into a small room in the house's sub-basement and told to wait. Alexandra and Alexi sat in chairs provided by guards at the Empress's request. That's a fun, important detail to include. That the mum was like, I'm going to need a seat. Go get a chair. Fuck the others. I need a seat and one for the boy. That is exactly what happened at the start of this episode. We were gonna, before you all came in, we were gonna stand. But Jess said, she said to Evan, Monroe Smith,
Starting point is 00:39:10 you said, what did you say? No, get my tone right. Evan, Evan, get over here now. My boys refuse to stand, Evan. My boys won't stand, you get us chairs, Evan. You get us chairs. My boys need to sit, you get us chairs, Evan. You get us chairs. My boys need to sit, Evan. They need to sit.
Starting point is 00:39:28 You know this, don't you, Evan? Don't you, Evan? That is how I talk to Evan. That's how she talks to me. And then any time Evan's leaving a room, what do I say? You say, I love you, Evan. And Evan never responds. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:39:43 He has started to. Oh. Because it shuts me up faster. Yeah, because of much protesting. Yeah, I go, I love you, and he goes, I love you too. And it's the happiest moment of my week every time. He's never said that to anyone else. I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:40:00 It weighs on me. So they're sitting in chairs in a basement. They're sitting in chairs. Well, two of them are. Okay, right. Everybody else, I don't know, floors good. After several minutes, the guards entered the room who quickly informed the Tsar and his family that they were to be executed. They got dressed for nothing.
Starting point is 00:40:19 That is not the news they were hoping for. No. That's brutal news. Sorry guys. Sorry about that, guys. Good news and bad news. Good news is you won't need those chairs much longer. And here's the thing too, and like, you know, we've only got an hour. I'm trying to unpacking a lot in, but there's incredibly detailed resources about like, okay, so this person was shot first and then they didn't quite
Starting point is 00:40:46 die so they bayoneted them for a bit. And then it's, and I You'll skip over that though, won't you? You probably won't bring that bit up, will you? I purposely left it out and then told you about it. And I, I am sorry for that. Basically the Tsar had only time to say what and turn to his family before he was killed by several bullets to the chest.
Starting point is 00:41:08 And then the rest of the family killed quite quickly as well. According to Edward Razinsky and Dmitry Volganov, oh my God, those are good names, the orders came directly from Lenin. However, this claim has never been confirmed, not John, no. No.
Starting point is 00:41:24 No. No. No Not John. No. I thought better of it. I did think better of it. I think that really showed growth for me. Like, honestly, yeah, my brain is saying, it's got a dog shit thought like five every 10 seconds. Yeah. And most of them I don't actually say. Yeah. And that's what people don't realize. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:54 People are like, God, he says a lot of dog shit stuff, but he thinks even more. Yeah. Imagine being in there. Oh, God. Yeah. It's not. It's not good. It's not a good place to be.
Starting point is 00:42:04 It's sort of, because I'm a pretty good audience, so I actually do enjoy a lot of it in my head. Yeah, you are your biggest fan. Not bad, but probably not good enough for Jess. Yeah, I'm the real tastemaker of the group. All the thoughts are also, that word means something else. That word means something else. That word means something else. So yeah, an entire family was killed.
Starting point is 00:42:32 Really violently and aggressively and very sad. But within a few years- Was Paul McCartney involved? Yeah. Even when John's in charge, they claim it as a Leonard McCartney. I'm trying to build, hang on, I'm going to build some like a bit of like. Oh, you want me to shut the fuck up? Just for like one sentence.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's okay. And then, you know, let the dogs fly. I'll do my best. Within a few years, rumors would swell that perhaps one of the Grand Duchesses got out of there alive. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:43:09 It would be so funny if it's not Anastasia. Well, it's funny you say that. In February of 1920, a young woman attempted to take her own life in Berlin by jumping off a bridge into the river. She was rescued by a police sergeant and taken to hospital. As she was without papers and refused to identify herself, she was admitted as Freulein Unbekannt, Miss Unknown. Great drag name. She was admitted to a hospital where she remained like a mental ward where she was, she remained for the next two years.
Starting point is 00:43:48 The unknown patient had scars on her head and body and spoke German with an accent described by medical staff as Russian. Oh, huh. Huh. It's interesting, isn't it? People speak in multiple languages. That could only be one person I'm aware of. Your wife is bilingual.
Starting point is 00:44:12 What now? No, no. I've just upped the threshold slightly higher and that one did not pass it. Okay. That's good. This is from Refinery29. Meanwhile, European newspapers reported strange rumors out of Russia. One of the Imperial daughters, it was said, had escaped the basement alive.
Starting point is 00:44:31 It was another Deldorf patient, that's the hospital she was at, Clara Puhart, Puthurt, I'm saying every word wrong and sorry, who first suspected this aloof woman was the missing Romanov. Upon leaving the hospital, Puthurt sought out high ranking Russian expats, urging them to come and see the woman she believed was Grand Duchess Tatiana. Oh my God. I didn't see it coming. That's the second oldest Romanov. She's like, you got it. Well, one of them got out. That's Tatiana right there.
Starting point is 00:45:09 Let me tell you. And people did. Former Romanov friends and servants, all of whom were convinced on site alone that this was one of the daughters of the late Tsar. They looked at her and went, yeah, that's Tatiana. That's so funny. On site alone. I could recognise a lot of people I've worked for on site alone.
Starting point is 00:45:27 Someone you knew for quite a long time. You reckon you could recognise them? I live with them. I reckon I could spot them. What about yesterday when you got here and someone was sitting on the couch there? What happened then? Well, I do have to get up pretty close.
Starting point is 00:45:39 It's dark in my defence, but Esteban, who's one of the great cameramen here, I really had to get up close to his face. Honestly, it was like, oh, hey, mate. So lucky I knew him. Because if it was a stranger, I reckon, and the vibe was right, I might have been made out with. Finally. Someone's just going for it.
Starting point is 00:46:10 I don't know. I guess that's what I do. Captain Nicholas Von Schwab, a former personal guard to the Dowager Empress, which is Anastasia's grandmother, showed her old photos of the family, watching as she went red and increasingly upset, but refused to speak. Only later that night did she tell the nurses, the gentleman has a photo of my grandmother. So they're like, this is fricking Tatiana. That's crazy. But there were those as well who denied her connection to the Romanovs. Baroness Sophie, fuck me, what is that name? That is a wild name.
Starting point is 00:46:49 God, they doesn't have German or Russian to mean it. I'm confident you haven't pronounced that right. Baroness, fuck me, dude. Do you say the bucks? I think Baroness Sophie bucks hovered them. I wasn't far off. I'm just going to call her Baroness Sophie. She comes up a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Baroness Sophie, a former lady in waiting to the Zarina, who upon seeing the mysterious patient, acknowledged the resemblance, but proclaimed her too short for Tatiana. For the first time, the woman spoke and she replied, "'I never said I was Tatiana.'" Oh, that is awesome. That's pretty cool. You've all decided I'm Tatiana. I'm not. And remember, Anastasia was short.
Starting point is 00:47:42 I know. Crazy. By May of 1922 several people believed the woman to be Anastasia even though others pointed out there was very little resemblance and this is only a few years after they you know were allegedly killed so it's not like she it's not like it was 40 years later and they're like I don't know I mean I haven't seen it for 40 years or we only have photos of her as a kid. Like she was 17 when she was killed. Um, and this is a couple of years later. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:12 Seven. And you kind of look like you're going to look by then. Yeah. You're pretty, you're pretty cooked. Yeah. You're pretty, you're fully cooked. Um, so she, but so people who knew her really well are like, this is definitely Tatiana. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:27 And she said, I'm not Tatiana. I didn't say I was Tatiana. I said, I knew it as I've always suspected you're Anastasia. And people are like, no, she doesn't look like Anastasia. And they're like, yeah. Yeah. I think it was just like, there was just too many kids in the family. And you know, when like somebody comes from a big
Starting point is 00:48:45 family and old relatives who only see them a couple times a year like which one of you? Yeah, it's probably that. I don't I think I was By the end I just accepted that my name was Tom at Family Things. I've been calling you Tom for years. She so she began calling herself Anna and using the last name Tchaikovsky. I've been calling you Tom for years. She began calling herself Anna and using the last name Tchaikovsky. Unsure why. She was taken out of the asylum and given a room in the Berlin home of Baron Arthur
Starting point is 00:49:16 von Kleist, who'd been a police chief in Russian Poland before the fall of the Tsar. Others thought that Kleist may have had ulterior motives. They said, if the old condition should ever be restored in Russia, he hoped for great advancement from having looked after the young woman. So like if they get back into power, remember that time I like, I'll let you come and stay with me. That was pretty cool of me. I would like a position of power. Thank you very much. And she'd be the one to get it, right? Absolutely. She's probably, she is next in line, maybe the only in line. It's a real King Ralph scenario. That's the second time recently you've brought up King Ralph. I look at everything through the Ralph lens. By 1925 Chuck. Ralph Lohlan? No. Like
Starting point is 00:50:03 is there a thing called Ralph? No, so the problem isn't facing, it's this one. So that just goes down. Is, but is there a thing called Ralph Lauren? Yes. And that sort of sounded like Ralph Lenz. Ralph Lorenz. Yeah. So that's what I was working with.
Starting point is 00:50:20 It was one that shouldn't have made the threshold. But I did, I thought that through out loud. Normally I'd do that in my mind and go, no, no from me. I've got a panel of three up there. Some people think I talk real slow, but there's a process. By 1925, Anna Tchaikovsky had developed a tuberculosis infection of her arm and she was placed in several hospitals for treatment. Sick and near death, she was visited by the Serena's groom of the chamber, Alexei Volkov.
Starting point is 00:50:57 He's the guy who cleans the toilet, right? Groom of the chamber. Also by Anastasia's tutor, Pierre Gilleard and his wife, Alexandra Tegleva, who had been Anastasia's nursemaid. So three people who would have known Anastasia very, very well and also the Tsar's sister, Grand Duchess Olga, so her aunt. So people who, yeah, I reckon would probably know her quite well and they all expressed sympathy that she was unwell and they didn't make any immediate public declarations, but eventually they all denied that she was Anastasia.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Is that cause she was ahead of them in the line? Shit. I think you got to go down pretty far before you get to the nurse. Yeah, I guess I'm the Zarina now. Yeah, I guess I'm the Zarina now. It's like an Olga, you know, and maybe Olga's got the nursemaid on side. I fully forgot I was a nursemaid. Duke George of Lichtenberg, a distant relative of the Tsar, gave her a home in a monastery and the Zarina's brother, Ernest Louis,
Starting point is 00:52:05 Grand Duke of Hesse, so many long names, he hired a private detective, because he was like, mm, I'm sus. So the private detective named Martin Noff investigated the claims that Tchaikovsky was Anastasia. So during her stay, he reported that she was actually a Polish factory worker called Franziska Sienkowska.
Starting point is 00:52:30 That got a gasp. But didn't this family also work in a factory of sorts? Aren't they needlework and stuff? It could be. In their castle, yeah. They would do needlework as a hobby. That's true. Same thing. Shankowska had worked in a munitions factory during World War I when shortly after her fiance had been killed at the front, a grenade fell out of her hand and exploded. She'd been injured in the head and a foreman was killed in front of her. She became apathetic and depressed, was declared insane in September of 1916 and spent time in two different mental asylums.
Starting point is 00:53:08 In early 1920s, she was reported missing from her Berlin lodgings and since then had not been seen or heard from by her family. Could this be our Anastasia? They tracked down her brother Felix who travelled to meet her. According to one account, initially Felix declared that Tchaikovsky was his sister, Fran, it was his sister, Franziska. I'm, yeah, I'm doing, I'm doing my best. He said there were physical differences.
Starting point is 00:53:40 She didn't recognize him. Nah, that's not my sister. But years later, Felix's family said that he knew Tchaikovsky was his sister, but he had chosen to leave her to her new life, which was far more comfortable than the alternative. She's been looked after. Yeah, she seems alright. I think that'd be my brother. Are you good? Alright. Nah, that's not it. See you later. Beautiful boy. As the death of the Tsar had never been proved, the estate could only be released to relatives 10 years after the supposed date of his death.
Starting point is 00:54:16 This obviously stirred up a lot of attention from family members and press and people seeking a little piece of the fortune themselves. After a quarrel, possibly over Tchaikovsky's claim to the estate, but not over a claim to be Anastasia. They're like, no, you can't have any of the money. Tchaikovsky was moved to the Garden City Hotel in New York under the name Mrs Anderson and she would subsequently be known as Anna Anderson. So her name changed again. In October of 1928, after the death of the Tsar's mother, the Dowager Empress Marie, the 12 nearest relations to the Tsar met at Marie's funeral and signed a declaration that denounced Anderson as an imposter. They were very threatened by her existence
Starting point is 00:54:56 because so many people did believe that she was Anastasia. So from early 1929, Anderson lived with Annie Burr Jennings, a wealthy Park Avenue spinster, happy to host someone she's supposed to be the daughter of the Tsar. For 18 months Anderson was the toast of New York City society, but then a pattern of self-destructive behavior began that culminated in her throwing tantrums, killing her pet parakeet, and on one occasion running around naked on the roof. That's very royal behavior. Very royal.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Wasn't this child like a charismatic toddler, though? It doesn't make sense. She was she was a naughty, like, you know, a bit chaotic, funny kid. So running around naked on a roof does track. Killing parakeets. Killing parakeets. That's naughty. That is naughty. Knock it off. That's cheeky. That's cheeky.
Starting point is 00:55:43 That is she was once again taken to an asylum cheeky. That's cheeky, that is. She was once again taken to an asylum where she stayed for around a year before being sent back to Germany. Eventually, a friend of a friend, Jack Manahan, paid for her to return to the United States. She entered the country on a six-month visitor's visa and shortly before it was due to expire, Anderson married Manahan, who was 20 years her junior in a civil ceremony right before Christmas of 1968. Jack Manahan enjoyed this marriage of convenience and described himself as Grand Duke-in-waiting or son-in-law to the Tsar. The couple became well known
Starting point is 00:56:17 in the Charlottesville area as eccentrics. Though Jack Manahan was wealthy, they lived in squalor with a large number of dogs and cats and piles of garbage. In 1979 Anderson was taken to Charlottesville's Martha Jefferson Hospital with an intestinal obstruction and a gangrenous tumor and a length of her intestine were removed. Not nice, but that will come back. Do we know what if they're wealthy why are they living like that? They're eccentric. Oh that is eccentric. That is eccentric. Living amongst rubbish. Yeah, and heaps of dogs and cats. But not many parakeets. Not anymore. No parakeets.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Although it was a marriage of convenience, the two seem to actually like each other. Both of them, Manahan and Anderson, were sort of in failing health and in November of 83, Anderson was institutionalized and an attorney, William Preston, was appointed as her guardian by the local court. But a few days later, Manahan kidnapped Anderson from the hospital and for three days they drove around Virginia just going to convenience stores and getting snacks. Honestly, it sounds pretty fucking good. It is so wild to me that this story is still going
Starting point is 00:57:34 when convenience stores are around. Yeah. Isn't that crazy? We're in the 80s, 1980s. That's wild. Yeah, it makes no sense. After they were found, Anderson was taken back to the care facility
Starting point is 00:57:45 and Anna Anderson passed away from pneumonia in 1984 and Manahan died in 1990. But the question remains, who was Anna Anderson? Was she Anastasia? No. Okay, we got an answer. Great. In 91, the bodies of Nicholas II and Alexandra No. Okay, we got an answer. Great.
Starting point is 00:58:05 In 91, the bodies of Nicholas II and Alexandra and three of their daughters were exhumed from a mass grave. Mitochondrial DNA was used to match maternal relations and it matched Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, whose maternal grandmother, Princess Victoria of Hesp and by Ryan, was the sister of Alexandra. I didn't know that. Whoa, that makes it kind of a bit incestuous, some of those relationships, doesn't it? That's weird.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I don't know. I had not thought of that. I really, I hope that they check that out because I think Royals are pretty good with that sort of stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're pretty on top of those things. Yeah. Yeah., yeah, yeah. They're pretty on top of those things, yeah. But yeah, crazy.
Starting point is 00:58:48 The bodies of Alexi and the remaining daughter were discovered in 2007. And again, they tested the DNA and confirmed that none of the czar's four daughters survived. All of their remains were found. A sample of Anderson's tissue, part of her intestine, which was removed in that surgery. Oh, someone kept that?
Starting point is 00:59:07 Yeah, it was kept in, it was stored at the hospital. Her DNA was extracted from the sample and compared to that of the Romanovs and their relatives and it did not match. So she was not related to the Romanovs. However, the sample matched DNA provided by Karl Moultje, a grandson of Franziska's sister, Gertrude, indicating that Karl and Anna Anderson were related and that Anderson was Franziska. Franziska's sister. Franziska Shakauska. Right. But the sister of that guy that was like, yeah, that's not her, go live a good life. She was that woman. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Right. And she does sound like she lived a pretty fun life. She got it.. Yeah, I think so, yeah. Right. And did she tell you she lived a pretty fun life?
Starting point is 00:59:46 She got it. I mean, she saw the world. Yeah. I mean, if you don't focus too much on the details of her home life. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes she lived in castles though. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Sick. So Anastasia's supposed escape and possible survival was one of the most popular historical mysteries of the 20th century, resulting in many, many books and films and plays and references in all sorts of media. At least 10 women claimed to be her, offering various stories as to how they had survived. Most were very quickly dismissed, but as we've heard Anna Anderson was believed by many to be
Starting point is 01:00:18 the Grand Duchess. Since the 1920s, many fictional works have been inspired by Anderson's claim to be Anastasia. In 1953, Marcel Moret wrote a play based on a book called Anastasia, which toured Europe and America. The play was so successful that in 1956, an English adaptation was made into a film starring Ingrid Bergman. It's kind of fun. Then there is is the 1997 animated fantasy, Anastasia, starring Meg Ryan and John Cusack, where spoilers, it turns out she is Anastasia, which is probably why I thought for a while that Anastasia probably was alive, but no, she was brutally murdered with their whole family.
Starting point is 01:01:00 And that's my report on Anastasia. Yeah, you have a judgment. Really gruesome stuff. Do you think this says anything about our listeners that the two top, so for Block, there are nine topics we're doing and we picked the two that we thought were the most audience friendly, and both of them included a family being murdered. Yeah, oh my god, you're so right.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Yeah, is that on us or on the people who voted for these? But the other seven include two families being murdered. Yeah, we wanted to keep it light for you guys. But in comparison, that's very light. That's it, we did it. Wow, would you suggest watching the, I've never seen the animated movie. Yes.
Starting point is 01:01:47 Bit of fun? Yes. Do they gloss over the murder part? Of course. Yeah, okay. Yeah. You know, if it is a Fox film, that means Disney now owned it
Starting point is 01:01:58 and like it could be involved in like future space jams and stuff. Imagine Anna Sage, it could be in the team. Wow. Yeah. Space Jam is Warner Brothers. Space Jamams and stuff. Imagine Anastasia could be in the team. Wow. Yeah. Space Jam is Warner Brothers. Space Jam is Warner Brothers. Space Jam is Warner Brothers.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Yeah, I think quite, yeah, Duffy Duck and yep, yep, yep. So maybe Anastasia could just be on like the Mickey Mouse Club or something. Yeah, yeah. Or the Avengers. Yeah. Imagine that. Wait, there is an Anastasia, right? Black Widow? No. Yeah, yeah. Or the Avengers. Yeah. Imagine that. Wait, there is an Anastasia, right? Black Widow?
Starting point is 01:02:27 No. What's her name? Natasha. Russian, no. What is it? Natasha. Natasha. Pretty much the same.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Anastasia, Natasha, potato, potato. You get it. Anyway, Dave, boot at home because we've run overtime. Oh, we have run overtime. Ever so slightly.. Ever so slightly. Not as bad as yesterday. Now we'll say somebody's time management skills. I was going skip, skip, skip, skip, skip. Don't worry about it. Russian Revolution bad. Well, that's the end of Do Go On Live, the Cheerful Evil podcast festival.
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Starting point is 01:03:34 At Fizz, you always get more for your money. Terms and conditions for our different programs and policies apply. Details at Fizz.ca. Oh, and we're back in the studio. Oh, we are low energy as well. That's right. Oh, we just had a big crazy live show. So now we've got the masseuses in.
Starting point is 01:03:54 I'm having a chai. Do you know what a chai is? I've never had a chai. Okay. He's having a chai. Having a chai. My first chai. I've got Freya, the masseuse working my shoulders. We're all in robes.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I've got Enya. Yes, that Enya. She is expensive. We've got the essential oils going. It smells like an Endotis bar in here. It is the Endotis bar essential oils. Yeah. That's doing a lot of the work of making it smell that way. Any refuses to sing. Can I say this chai is disgusting. To an orange juice. But you tried something. We're very proud of you.
Starting point is 01:04:37 First time in a long time trying something new. Give it a chai as we said to you before we started recording. And then we high fived. Yeah. All three of us. Was it said to before we started recording. And then we high-fived. Yeah. All three of us. It was a high, yeah, high 15. No, it's not really, you know, it's not a high 10. It would be like, it would be 10 for each of us.
Starting point is 01:04:54 So it'd be like a high 30, I guess. High 30. You know, because we're both hands for both people. We're in a triangle. Yes. And we're going, pow! All at once. Should we try that one day?
Starting point is 01:05:03 In a triangle. In a triangle. And we said, pow! Should we try that one day? In a triangle. In a triangle. And we said, let's give it a try. Yeah. And yeah, we're not losing it. This is the first thing we've recorded today. It is lunchtime. Anyway, thank you so much for joining us here in everyone's favorite section of the show. Geez, we had a lot of fun at the Chiefly Full Podcast Festival. Yeah. Great time. So much fun. I lot of fun at the Chiefly Full Podcast Festival. Yeah. Great time. So much fun.
Starting point is 01:05:27 I really enjoyed this story that you told us, Jess, about, uh, really enjoyed that. As far as I remember, that's the story you told us about the singer Anastasia. You know, you joke as far as you remember, I don't remember it. I was unwell and we later found out I had glandular fever, which is very retro of me. Which is why we really regretted doing that three way Mac. But it was, it felt right. And unfortunately you can't see that video anymore.
Starting point is 01:06:05 It's gone off the internet, but it happened. It definitely happened. Yeah. It sounded something like this. Oh, sorry about that. I'm trying to talk through it. Yeah. I want to talk. Oh, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, It sounds like a turkey. Stop talking. I love you. I love you.
Starting point is 01:06:25 I love you. Anyhow. We all have mono now. Yes. So the way this, this section of the show works is it's basically a bit of time for us to spend thanking our great supporters. And if you want to be one of these supporters, go to patreon.com slash to go on pod. Uh, there's a bunch of different levels you can sign up on, uh, and they
Starting point is 01:06:50 all come with different things. I mean, the higher you go, you get, you collect it, everything below plus everything below plus that sort of thing. Does that make any sense? That was so confusing, but I do understand what you mean, but it's everything below plus for anybody who didn't understand it's think about it as this. it's everything below plus. For anybody who didn't understand it's think about it as this. It's everything below plus. Yeah. So on plus, it's everywhere plus.
Starting point is 01:07:14 So say on the ass prod level, you get a shout out, you get access to the Facebook group, you get early tickets and discounts. If you're on the dreamboat Cooper level, you also get all of those things. Plus bonus episodes. Oh, I'm with you now. Yeah, the ad free feed. Yeah. And then, but if you're on the Sydney Scharnberg level, you get all those
Starting point is 01:07:40 things plus access into the fact quota question, or question section, which is this very section. I think it actually has a jingle. Fact, quote, or question. You always remember the thing. She always remembers the thing. Can we get it one more time in Anastasia? I have to get into it. Yeah. So just get it.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Yeah. And I wanted you to know. Fat quarter question. Oh, the eyes remembers the day I young shows. Remember the so yeah. This happens at like the end of a really long day. This is the start of our day. Oh my God. We've got so much to record today.
Starting point is 01:08:41 So well, I wanted you to know. So we've got three fat quotes or questions today. Yeah. I'll read them out. They get to give us a question. They also get to give themselves a title. First up we got Joslyn Kravitz, AKA associate director for actually including white space this time. Okay. Justin Kravitz has a question.
Starting point is 01:09:06 Writing, apologies to Matt for a question he can't answer. I was wondering how Jess and Dave decided on the names for their dogs and what ridiculous names do you actually call them? Oh. Answering my own question, we adopted our first dog when she was about 10 months old. The shelter named her Ladybug,
Starting point is 01:09:26 but since she's the sweetest little pea, we changed her name to Sweet Pea. Also known as Sweet Potato, Peanut, Peanut Butter, Peanut Butter Cup, Princess Puppy Cup, and Sweetest of Peas. Slight digression, if you haven't heard of the sci-fi show, Fastscape, hashtag number one, you need to go watch it immediately. And hashtag number two, one of the characters played
Starting point is 01:09:50 in inverted commas by a three foot tall puppet is dominar to over 600 billion subjects of the Hynurian Empire. He also farted helium when he was nervous. Back on topic. The craziest digression we've had about that. What do you call your dog? Also, here's a man I'm sure I like from 1999 that farts helium. Anyway, I love it.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Back on topic, we adopted our second dog when he was still a floppy little three month old named puppy named David. Great name for a podcast, but not a puppy. While we were driving him home, he looked very dignified sitting up very straight on my husband's lap while also smelling incredibly bad. I think David's the perfect name for this. Great posture, terrible odor. Yes.
Starting point is 01:10:39 Naturally, we named him Rigel or Rigel after Farscape's Helium Farting Monarch, Dominar Rigel or Rigel the XV1, the 16th. He is also known as Riginald D-Dog, Rigemical, Rigey Potato Head and his bucket of farts and Prince PP feet. Now this is to me, this is real dog people stuff. Oh my gosh. This is the kind of, I would probably say millennial dog people stuff. Because both of us went mm hmm. Oh yeah, he's got thousands. When Sweet Peas Peanut Butter, I'm like, of course. Yep. Absolutely. That makes perfect sense. I don't, and I don't know this for sure, but I'd put money that Jocelyn Kravitz is a millennial and pretty confident a dog owner. OK. Yeah, it's interesting.
Starting point is 01:11:33 The context she's gave me both of those conclusions. Sweet Pea and Rigel or Rigel are now 16 and 12 years old, respectively, and continue to live up to their name. Sweet Pea is very deaf, but still very sweet. And Rygle or Rigel still looks very dignified when he sits up straight, but makes the worst room clearing far. Yeah. Not my dog. Yeah. Don't make this a competition.
Starting point is 01:11:58 Yeah. Jocelyn. I'll get him into a room and see who makes the other one pass. Cause the worst part is like. Rigel's arses writing checks that. Yeah. Your part is like. Riggles asses writing checks that. Yeah. Your mouth can't cash. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Yeah. I don't know. I was almost. Not something. Yeah. What does that say something in it? I think if I had another girl would probably know. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:16 It had all the bits of a joke. So this was a question. How do we come up with the names of our dogs? What do we actually call the dogs? Dave. I think how we come up with the name, we had maybe a very short list, but Humphrey just felt very right when we saw him. And either with Bee Bear or Bee Flo Bear.
Starting point is 01:12:32 We liked the name, but then we thought, he does look like a bear. So, um, his full name is Humphrey Bogart Bear. Ah, the Beast of Bogart. Yeah. But then that's not what we call him Humphrey to when we're out in public. Yeah. When we're at the park. Humphrey, Humphrey. Or when he's in trouble. Yeah, exactly. Humphrey Bogart Bear. Look at me.
Starting point is 01:12:53 But he's, and I think this is how we got to it. It was Humphrey, Humphrey Doo, Humphrey Doo Doo, Doo Doo, Doo Dee, Doo Dee. That's his name. That's good. do do do do do doody doody. But then, but then there's a bunch of other names. Uh, uh, doody, McCruff, uh, You and Justin Kravitz are the same person. Yeah. Uh, the boy, I'm going to guess. Jocelyn is 34 years of age, a little man, um, doable. Yep. Dobly.obly, dubly, dub dub. All of this makes perfect sense.
Starting point is 01:13:29 Like there's so many. Am I right in saying this is a mind your thing or is this like a, older and younger person? It's just a dog person thing. I think it happens with dogs. Maybe cats as well, but yeah. I can't remember my parents have anything with our dogs growing up. That was their name and that's what you call them. Like now. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:45 But your parents had no, not your parents, the Royal, your parents had no sense of whimsy, you know, they weren't having fun at home. We named our dog. We named our dog Pete. That's a great name. I was 10 and wanted to name him Spudgun, but no one listened. Fuck off. Spudgun's so much better.
Starting point is 01:14:03 I thought it was so funny. Even because then you just call it Spud. Yeah, Spud's a great name. Well, I just found the list of- I had a Spud gun when I was a kid. So good. And then I'd be like Tater, Tater Tart. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:13 The Tart. Tarty Goldsmith. Yeah, exactly. Goldie. That's what happens. Yeah, that's a- It just happens. You don't do it on purpose.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Smithy Norm. You can't- Cheers. Everybody knows your name, Naimie. Naim. don't do it on purpose. You can't, um, everybody has your name, namey, uh, name. You can't manufacture it. Well, really it's spud gun, but let me tell you how we got to name. I just found that the, this is a list from November, 2020 of dog names that we, that we were running through. Sunny was right. Great. Sonny was up there. Good name. Chip or Chippy.
Starting point is 01:14:46 I feel like that's a good dumb name too. Which is great because he loves chips. Chippy. Bug, Orby, Goose is on there. Tugger, Eddie, Kip or Kipper. Kip is good. Tug boats you love. Chip is good. Chip's cute.
Starting point is 01:14:57 That's, that's what Danny Froli's nephew's nickname was. Oh, that's good. In 40 kids, Danny Froli was Spud. Ah. And his nickname was Chip. That's great. That's cute. Chip off the old Spud block. That's nice. But we went with Goose because we both, it was a name both of us liked. And then one day Aidan said, I just feel like if we named him anything else, I'd always think he could have been a goose. And then we got him and he's a silly goose. So it works. But anything with like an OO sound we call him. So it's like it's goo, gooey, gooey, boy. We call him boy a lot. Goose to the secret of the ooze. That's right. Bubba.
Starting point is 01:15:39 Oh yeah. He responds to that one, which is very cute. Bad boy Bobby. There's something else as well. Oh, Mr. Pogboo is what Aiden calls him. So lots of different names. It just happens. I think it's similar to football or nicknames. Yeah. So put it into terms you understand. Well, cause I was just thinking chips and other like there were two fishes on the saints
Starting point is 01:16:01 lists for a little while in the mid 2000s ish and one one of them ended up being called one was fish and I was chips. That's good. That's cute. Bit of fun. Bit of fun. Yeah. It just kind of happens, but yet to, to each other. It's just like, have you fed boy?
Starting point is 01:16:17 Oh yeah. Have you fed the boy? Yeah. The boy has been fed, you know, he doesn't respond to boy, but any kind of goo sound gooey is the main one. Yeah. Resp doesn't respond to boy, but any kind of goo sound gooey is the main one. Yeah. Spontaneous. Nuga, Nuga. Oh, Humphrey Nuga. Oh, that's good. Actually, there was a while that's a kid's name is yours. A boy or a boy. Okay. That probably after adopt, which is fine. They're absolutely out for that. We've already talked
Starting point is 01:16:43 to them about it. Yeah, it's great. What would a combo of your two dogs look like? Oh, fucked, to be honest. Which bits do you reckon? Is it known which bits will be the dominant bits? You know what I mean? No. Oh, I don't know. Does it turn out sometimes it looks like a big Frenchie?
Starting point is 01:17:01 Yeah. Because Humphrey's big. Or sometimes like a Frenchie sized furball. Oh my goodness. Google this is a Frenchie doodle which is a Frenchie with a poodle. Does that exist? It's very cute. It just looks like a doodle. It's like it goes back. There's no Frenchie in that. It goes back to a poodle.
Starting point is 01:17:20 Oh yeah. That's like a long haired Frenchie. Oh okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've seen haired Frenchie. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I've seen those before. I would guess cause goose is fairly big for a Frenchie anyway. I would guess it would be, still look like a food have the ears of a Frenchie, but it would probably have more like the, the doodle hair, which is good. You love doodle hair. Yes.
Starting point is 01:17:43 I'm more of a Brazilian. We got him. You got him. Wrap it up. was going to... Matt. I'm more of a Brazilian. Matt. We got him. You got him. Wrap it up. He loves doodle hair. Mate. Come on. I can't get enough.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Come on. It doesn't shed. Bit of fun. Anyway, does that answer that question? I think it does. I believe it does. Thank you so much, Jocelyn. Let us know if you are exactly 34 years old.
Starting point is 01:18:02 The next one comes from David Miloszki, AKA the man from A Place to Hang Your Cape. David's title is blind Billy Club bearing breaker of bones. And he's offering a fact writing, my all time favorite superheroes daredevil and this year marks his 60th anniversary. So I've thought I would give some facts about the man without fear. You can decide whether they are fun, grim or marvelous.
Starting point is 01:18:31 OK, created by Stanley and Bill Everett in 1968, Daredevil's early issues featured a yellow and red costume, also called the mustard and ketchup costume. It wasn't until issue seven, penciled and inked by cartoonist Wally Wood that the iconic red suit made its debut. I'm sorry, Wally Wood? Wally Wood. That's awesome. You are entering Wally Wood. Wood's distinctive visual style, including the characters iconic horns and Billy club,
Starting point is 01:19:01 has become synonymous with Daredevil. Despite his significant contributions, Wood has unfortunately never been formally recognized as a co-creator, nor received credit in subsequent film and television adaptations. Seems to be a recurring theme. Yeah. Yeah. That'd be frightening. Like if you make significant changes to a thing that's already existing, they're
Starting point is 01:19:20 like, oh, you didn't create it though. Yeah. You just turned it into what we all know it as. Yeah. Different. You just made it better. One of my favorite Daredevil moments comes from Charles Sools or Soles 2016 run. In a particularly amusing scene, everyone, including the Avengers has forgotten that blind Matt Murdock is Daredevil. During a team up with Captain America, Daredevil encounters a bomb and asks cap over the comms to how to disarm it Cap casually suggests cutting the red wire daredevil sighs and in the next panel tosses the bomb off the roof into the Hudson River Bit of fun because he can't see red
Starting point is 01:19:59 I hope you hope some of that qualified as fun and can't wait to see you guys in London. Can't wait to see you in London. Which we might have already seen you by this point. What a pleasure to have already seen you in London. But the time recording, we leave in a week. That's right. Oh my God. We're very excited.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Thank you so much, David. Jess, do you want to give that fun or non-fun? Yeah, fun. Yep. There's nofun? Yeah, fun. Yep. There's no grimness there, Dave. Dull or no dull? Yeah, I don't think it's grim that Wally Wood never got the credit he deserved. Oh yeah, that wasn't really up for you to say though. I'm the grim guy, you're the dull guy.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Oh, sorry, sorry. Dull. How dare you step on my toes like that. Dull. Dave, are you apologizing or if that's what you're fumbling about, get it out, mate, because I'm about to have hurt feelings. Let me just say this conversation is officially turned dull. Matt, do you want me to beat him up? Yes, please.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Okay. Pow. Wham. Thwack. Thwack. Bonk. Jizz. Final one this week.
Starting point is 01:21:03 I bonked him and he jizzed. Dave Loring and Dave has the title of gentle giant and provider of exceptional hugs. And he's offering, maybe this is the first time we've had a clarification. Okay. Reading. Hey pals, my last fact, this is the second one that's been referenced something from a previous quote, a question. And I don't know if you're like me, but my memory is bad. No, I'm notorious for my very good memory. We're lucky to have Dave here. I've never forgotten.
Starting point is 01:21:34 It sounds like David's about to sort of remind us anyway. Hopefully. Oh my God. Yes. Okay. My last fact, what a question submission covered a fun incident involving the police arresting Margaret Pomerantz. That was so good. Even though I said it. Yes. Pomerantz. And that's since coming to our lives. Yeah. Lexi. Maybe this is related to that. Lexi and Zachary Rowan are doing a show all about that. And I also covered the classifications in Australia, G
Starting point is 01:22:00 through 18 plus. Oh, I see. Matt mentioned the X rating and I realized I omitted it from the detail. There is an X18 plus category in Australia. It's reserved for pornographic material, but even then there are a lot of restrictions which apply to what's allowed, allowed. Allowed. Within that category. And anything outside of it gets refused classifications.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Movies rated X18 plus are only allowed to be sold in the Northern Territory or ACT for reasons I still don't fully understand. Though anyone in the other states can rest assured that there are no restrictions on buying your government-approved pornography in the territories and then carrying it across state lines. It's all a bit silly really and even recent reviews of the guidelines around film classification acknowledged that the internet has basically rendered the rating redundant.
Starting point is 01:22:49 There are there's a lot of other quirky details and anecdotes I could go into but on the off chance that the history of movie classifications in Australia gets to be a topic someday, one of my earlier hat suggestions, I wouldn't dare ruin the surprises. The biggest surprise of course, being that it's actually an interesting topic, despite the name on a final clarification. I finished the last submission with big strong hugs and Matt suggested I needed to be careful as I didn't know my own strength. If I may sneak in a brag, I give exceptional hugs that are both
Starting point is 01:23:21 comforting and reassuring. I think if anybody knows her own strength, it's also David Loring. But also if any, like he knows exactly what he can pick up and put down. I think that's true. But can he know how comforting and reassuring his own hugs are? That's more on a person's vibe. And I think, yeah, yeah, you're right. Do any of us know that? I don't think we could, even if you're being told that.
Starting point is 01:23:42 You give surprisingly good hugs for somebody who's very cold. Cold and bony. Yeah. Cold emotionally, bony physically. Yes. But great hugs. It's confusing. I'm also bony emotionally. Me, I'm emotionally bony. Uh, he does say, but it's hard to boast about that without also seeming a bit creepy. So I may have just shot myself in the foot there. You have. I will now forever associate you with creepiness, Dave. Dave Loring, more like Dave creepy-ing.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Got him. Absolutely nailed it. Anyway, this has gone on long enough. Hope you're all well. Thank you so much, Dave. What a pleasure. Appreciate that, Dave, David and Jocelyn. Fantastic facts, fantastic quotes, fantastic questions. The next thing we like to do is a shout out to a few other of our other fantastic Patreon
Starting point is 01:24:36 supporters. People in the car just didn't hear Matt for a bit there. And Jess, and how is this better for the car? I think so. Okay. And Jess, uh, you normally come up with a bit of a game based on the topic at hand. What are you thinking this week? So I'm thinking, cause obviously this one, um, it was largely pretty grim as a family got murdered. Um,
Starting point is 01:24:57 but also there was a whole chunk there about a person impersonating Anastasia. So I was thinking, I've got two options. We can either give them the celebrity that they are impersonating Anastasia. So I was thinking, I've got two options. We can either give them the celebrity that they are impersonating or I can give them an Anastasia song. Oh, I mean, Dave, both fantastic options. How many Anastasia songs do you think you've got? I've gone for a list of songs by Anastasia. Okay. Has she got nine songs?
Starting point is 01:25:23 I had to do it that way because when I looked up Anastasia songs, it was just the soundtrack of the film Anastasia. Okay. Has she got nine songs? I had to do it that way because when I looked up Anastasia songs, it was just the soundtrack of the film Anastasia. Oh, I mean, that's also an option. Yeah. Third option. All right, Dave, you want to give the addresses? I'll give the addresses. You give the names. How about that? Love that. All right. First up, I'd love to thank, from the bottom of my heart, from, oh my God, God's country, Ohio in Columbus, more specifically. It's Ren, R-E-N, Ren. And are we giving them a song? Let's do both.
Starting point is 01:25:52 Okay, yeah, you could do that. So they're impersonating Celeb. And the Celeb is, um, Gary Busey. Gary Busey. Love it. And their song is classic 2004, Sick and Tired. Yes. Sick and tired. Yes. Sick and tired.
Starting point is 01:26:06 I've always been sick and tired. I guess that's kind of my anthem. So I'll tell you what, I am bloody sick of it. Yeah. And you are often sick. Yeah. And tired. Thank you so much, Ren.
Starting point is 01:26:17 Also, I would love to thank from Lacrosse in Wee. I don't know if that's the West Indies. No, it's in the United States. It's Wisconsin, maybe. It's Tyler Sokolik. Tyler Sokolik is impersonating. Jeremy Renner. Jeremy Renner.
Starting point is 01:26:37 Really? Yeah. While they sing the 2001 song, You'll Never Be Alone, Jeremy Renner. Because I'm following you and I'm watching it. I'm learning all your mannerisms. Watch out, Jeremy. Next up from Bedford in Texas. I would like to thank Jared, AKA Axel is Alive 95.
Starting point is 01:27:00 Whoa. They're impersonating. It's gotta be Axel Rose. Yeah. Axel Rose. Axel Whitehead. It's gotta be Axl Rose. Yeah, Axl Rose. Or Axl Whitehead, is that someone? Yeah, from Big Brother. Also a singer and maybe flashed himself at the Arias one year.
Starting point is 01:27:15 Flashed himself? I don't think anybody can imagine that. Get a load of this. Just in a mirror looking at your own bits. See, it's okay. You're allowed to, it's weird, but you're allowed to do that. That's okay. I'm just double checking it is him, but you're allowed to do that. That's okay. I'm just a double checking. Yes. He did expose himself once at the areas.
Starting point is 01:27:30 Cool. It's a great night. Why? He concedes he'd had a few drinks than other 2006 areas. 2006 was a peak time for flashing. Yeah. I don't flash now. No, I don't think. We're beyond flashing.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Mamma Mia accounts 1.3 million people were tuning in from their loungers at home. Then without comment or warning, Whitehead exposed his penis and simulated masturbating onto the trophy. Oh my God. Cool. So should we say Axl Rose then? Yeah. Axl Rose. I have a funny feeling he's done some quick stuff. But he's also some crook stuff. He's also known for that controversy for sure.
Starting point is 01:28:08 And Axl Rose is being a person and singing what song. One day in your life. You will expose yourself. You will expose yourself. Next up, I'd love to thank from London town in England. I would like to thank Victoria Jones, personally. Vinnie Jones. Vinnie Jones.
Starting point is 01:28:27 And we have to change a few letters, I guess. And singing the song, Chord in the Middle. I'd love to hear Vinnie Jones singing the Anastasia classic. Yeah. That's just something I'd like. From Rye, oh beautiful spot. I had some great times down in Rye here in Victoria. Gorgeous.
Starting point is 01:28:50 It's Jasmine aka Gillian Anderson. One of my outside favorites. Oh my god. What a great actor. Covering the song Now or Never. Oh really? It was kind of out last year that one. Is that a cover of the Weed Hornet song now or never. Oh, really? Yeah. It was kind of last year that one. Is that a cover of the Weed Hornet song now or never?
Starting point is 01:29:07 Yeah. Weed Hornet were definitely the first to think of that title. Well, how, what year did her song come out? To 2023. Yeah, it's definitely a cover then. It's from 2003. So 20th anniversary. Appreciate the tribute.
Starting point is 01:29:18 That's nice. We got a lot of international artists to, to, uh, commemorate 20 years of the Weed Hornet EP. So it does seem like a big coincidence, but as Jasmine always says, there's gotta be another explanation, Mulder. Next up from, oh, I just, I know I can only assume from deep within the fortress of the moles. Oh, well, located down there, it's Sean Francis Briffer.
Starting point is 01:29:40 Who impressed, who's an imposter for Celine Dion. Oh, yeah. But not singing that song. Yeah. She, which is a weird choice. Cause that's, you'd think you would sing Celine songs. I think if you just, if you just brought her Celine down a few octaves or something, would she become Anastasia?
Starting point is 01:30:00 I think so. They do have a similar, like the voice is coming from within her, within the, the voice is coming from within, within the, you know. The voice is coming from within the mouth. Yeah. Yeah. It's back, back of the throat stuff. It's not quite coming out. Where's your voice come from? Mine's coming from within my diaphragm. I'm a deep, deep singer. That's how I'd sound if I sang from the back of my throat. That's how I'd say never sang from the back of my throat.
Starting point is 01:30:27 That's great. That's nice. Um, and they're singing this song, paid my Jews. And Celine has. Yes. D U E S. D U E S. I just thought that.
Starting point is 01:30:38 Do's. Do's. Pay my dues. Uh, hey, can I thank from Worthing in Wessex in Great Britain? It's Charlotte Colwell. Who is impersonating John Howard. Whoa. Actor or XPM.
Starting point is 01:30:59 XPM. Pretty easy to do. Bald cap and put caterpillars on your eyes. There you go, bro. A bit of a- Mr. Spoiger. My fellow Australians. Put on an Australian tracksuit, go for a,
Starting point is 01:31:13 like a fast paced walk in the morning. Yeah. Good on ya. Good on ya. Of course, while you listen to the song written about us, stupid little things. Oh, thanks so much Anastasia for that beautiful tribute. Thank you. To us. I'm little. I little things. Oh, thanks so much Anastasia for that beautiful tribute. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:31:25 To us. I'm little. I'm stupid. I guess I'm thing. From Walcott in Co, maybe Colorado in the United States. It's Greg Hartman. Greg Hartman, of course, an imposter for Andre Agassi. Wow.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Yeah. Wow. Big time. Yeah. And the song, Bad Girls. Well, he was a bad boy on the court when he started. Oh yeah. It all makes sense. Beautiful flowing mullet.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Yes. And finally from Crew in Virginia, I reckon. It's Nathan Graber. Nathan Graber. Nathan Grabber. Impersonating Hans Gruber. Hans. Booby. Thank you so much.
Starting point is 01:32:13 Oh, what song though? What song? Uh, of course, uh, best days. Best days. Yeah. I hadn't heard of any of those. Yeah, you had. Yes, I had.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Sick and tired. Sick and tired. Yeah. I know. Now I any of those. Yeah, you had. Yes, I had. Sick and tired. Sick and tired, yeah. Great job. I know sick and tired by friends are wrong. That's the one, yeah, yeah. She's covered a lot of us. They've actually covered her. There you go.
Starting point is 01:32:37 Thank you so much to Nathan, Greg, Charlotte, Sean, Jasmine, Victoria, Jared, Tyler, and Ren. And the last thing we do is welcome some into our Triptych Club. We've got two inductees this week. Dave will explain what it's all about. This is our Hall of Fame slash clubhouse where we initiate the people that have been supporting the show on the shout out level for three consecutive years. They've never jumped off and never jumped off.
Starting point is 01:33:00 They've never jumped off. They've continued to support us. That does make it sound like they're standing on a cliff. Yeah, yeah, but they've got jumped off. Never jumped off. They've continued to support us. That does make it sound like they're standing on a cliff. Yeah. Yeah. But they've got a great balance. But they, they love it. They're too. There is a cliff, of course, in the triptych club.
Starting point is 01:33:12 There's everything. Yeah. I mean, there's ice hockey, there's a cliff, there's cliff diving. We've got a fountain. We've got that Las Vegas dome. Oh yeah. The sphere. And that helps us like things that we haven't thought of.
Starting point is 01:33:24 We just make that look like those things. Yeah. You want it quick. We just like radio upstairs like, uh, Christie, can you please, uh, put the, uh, please put the, the cliff on the dome. We need to make it look like we've got a cliff in here. Cheers, Christie. And then she, she puts up Cliffy, the old guy ran in boots.
Starting point is 01:33:42 I went no, no, we meant like a mountain cliff edge. Thanks, Christy. And then she puts Cliffy on a mountain. Take Cliffy off. It's not about Cliffy. Legend. But we don't need to put him up there because we've got real Cliffy. And then she puts Cliff at the big dog. We have to fire Christy. Oh my God Yeah. Cause then it's Cliff Richard. It's awful. Yeah. Cliff Burton. Are you taking the piss, Christie? Come on.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Have you seen a cliff before? Cause I'm about to push you off one. Cliff notes. Is that anything? Is it? Yeah. Yeah, it's a thing that exists. Treble cliff.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Is that anything? Yeah. So we've got two inductees this week, but before we get to them, Jess, you're behind the bar. Yeah. Uh, I've got vodka. That's Russian, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. So we've got two inductees this week, but before we get to them, Jess, you're behind the bar. Yeah. I've got vodka. That's Russian, isn't it?
Starting point is 01:34:28 Yeah. Yeah. Beautiful. Lovely. And like, is it a good one or are we talking like a, you know, a very cheap, cheap and nasty. And you're mixing into a cocktail. You just said, I think what you were saying was, is it a good vodka or is it cheap enough?
Starting point is 01:34:42 But you sort of said, you're cheap. Is what you said. Am I cheap? Sorry, did I say you're cheap? Did he stutter? It's a middle of the line vodka. Right. Okay. It's pretty good. Great goose.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Something like that. Yeah. It's a great goose. Is that middle of the line or top of the line? I don't know. I'm sure that like, it depends where you're looking, I reckon. Great goose is pretty good. Yeah. I think it's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:35:04 Like for me, that'd be like the, probably the best vodka I've ever had, but then, you know looking. I reckon grace. Yeah, good. Yeah, I think it's pretty good life for me That'd be like the probably the best vodka I've ever had but then you know people on top of the cliff with Cliffie Yeah, they're like what Greg is Greg is disgusting middle of the line. Yeah, but for people like Jess is very cheap Very very good stuff. Yeah, especially occasions. I got the Dan Aykroyd one as well. Oh, yeah skull. Yeah. Yeah, so I got that too So you happy? Yeah Yeah, that. So I got that too. Are you happy? Crystal? Yeah. Okay, now. Yeah, that's pretty good. And Dave, have you booked a band? You're never going to believe it. I mean, there's one, imagine if it's, I mean, Jess and I are probably thinking of one in
Starting point is 01:35:34 particular and we'd be so excited. But anyway. Yeah, let's see. Don't want to spoil it. You are absolutely thinking of this artist. It is the band that I've been playing in. Long Legs are here tonight. Whoa! Have we got them playing in, Long Legs, a year tonight. Have we got them? We got Long Legs? It's a warm up gig actually, because so I've been, for people who don't know,
Starting point is 01:35:52 earlier in the year we had Tom Mitchell, who was the singer of Weed Hornet, come on, do a Patreon episode where we listened to our EP from 20 years ago, the Weed Hornet EP. And then from then, Tom was like, he still makes music, he plays, he's got a solo act called Long Legs, but he needed a live band. So he invited me to, hey, should we get the band back together? Basically. So I've been playing bass with him for the last few months and we've got our first ever gig this weekend.
Starting point is 01:36:15 Whoa. At the time of recording or at the time of release? I have time this well. That's exciting. Yeah, that's right. Are you inviting me and Jess? Cause I'm pretty sure that's the first we've heard of it. Yeah. Well, it's only just been, just been and Jess? Cause I'm pretty sure this is the first we've heard of it.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Yeah. Well, it's only just been, just been locked in cause it's a while away at the time of recording, but it's on this Saturday night, November the 23rd. We are playing at Revolver, baby. So within a few days of you getting back from a UK tour, you're then playing a gig. Straight to the stage. Jesus. That's right.
Starting point is 01:36:43 I will be under under reversed. So go easy on the bass player. Are you bringing the bass on tour? Yeah, to practice. Absolutely. Yes. I'm and I'm doing a show in Edinburgh that day. Oh, you'll still be away. You don't.
Starting point is 01:36:56 Will we be able to leave? I want to be there. Yeah. Like we'll be live at your gig. Then you'll be live at our gig. Yeah, we'll just play each show in the background. Christie, can we get mad on the sphere? So anyway, that's it's a, yeah, our first ever live show.
Starting point is 01:37:15 So if you're in Melbourne, why not come along? So fun. Be a bit of fun. All right. Here are the inductees. We've got two, as I said, Dave's on stage. He's harping up the crowd. Everyone who's ever been admitted to this point, which I believe is like maybe a thousand people, they're all there.
Starting point is 01:37:32 He's getting a bit packed in here. But that's why we're always expanding. That's why we've got the sphere. The mining is extraction fan because everyone is farting. I think the capacity of the sphere alone is quite a lot larger than that. I think everyone's got space. Okay. But unfortunately, I've been to the sphere.
Starting point is 01:37:51 Have you farted in the sphere? I have farted in the sphere and you're telling me about the capacity. Well, you were just saying that it's over capacity. I'm saying we've got the sphere. I haven't asked you about the fart. Did people notice? Like people around you, did you have to do that thing where you were like, Oh, first, you find me like, Oh, it wasn't me.
Starting point is 01:38:09 And then you put your shirt up, you know, once I started to see people looking around, I'd do the same. Just look around like four. Is this part of the show? This lady in front of me here, she did it. Oh, I knew it was a side show. I didn't know it was a smell show. Lady, you've got a problem.
Starting point is 01:38:26 That's disgusting. You need to see a doctor. That's what I said. Medic, we need a medic! This woman farted. This woman's dying on the inside! Quick! We need a vet, someone's crawled up and died on this woman's ass.
Starting point is 01:38:38 I can't believe you farted in the sphere. That's awesome. It's so cool, man. It's honestly so cool. And at the time, the sphere was looking like a big egg. So it made sense. It actually made a lot of sense. A lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:38:53 Well done. Think you got away with that. Oh, OK. So we got two names. Dave's up on the stage. He's helping everyone up. Just hops up, Dave. Yes. His confidence is low based on how he's pretty mediocre at this. So first up two names. Here we go. If you hear your name, run on in and join the party and hang around for the after party with long legs.
Starting point is 01:39:17 First up from address unknown. Can I show you from deep within the fortress of the Mo welcome in jukes juke triceratops juke triceratops of the pot more like triceratops and from yeah i'll allow that i'll allow that normally i'd i'd murder you for that but that was pretty fun and a nice little call back to earlier when we were in the spa yeah that was nice was nice. That was on this, though, wasn't it? Finally, from a beautiful neck of the woods, head up the Ernst Wank Road to Nariwaran, North Victoria. We'll laugh at that every time. Welcome in, Catherine. Catherine, more like Cath, Chin Chin Chin to you. That rhymes with Rin. Catherine. Catherine, more like Cath, uh, uh, chin, chin, chin to you.
Starting point is 01:40:06 That rhymes with Rin. Catherine. Woo! Cheers and chin chin. Welcome in Catherine. Chin chin. And the Duke. Catherine, stand up so we don't need to tell anyone Bob before we go.
Starting point is 01:40:22 We love you and you can suggest a topic. There's a link in the show notes, which is also on our website, which is do go on pod.com. And you can find us on social media at do go on pod or do go on podcast on Tiki Taki. Tiki Taki. And that's where we belong as cool millennials. Like that's totally our area and we, we dominate the space and, uh, and we make it ours. And it makes sense that we're there. You know, millennials are now being, you know, how Gen X people would correct, uh, and we make it ours and it makes sense that we're there. You know, millennials are now being, you know, how Gen X people would correct,
Starting point is 01:40:47 uh, people online be like, uh, I'm not a boomer. I'm actually, I've started saying millennials have to do it. I like, it's so funny how we're, it's just everyone's boomer now older than, um, Jen Jen's ed, which I think is fantastic. Yeah, it's good stuff. It feels good. It feels right. It feels good to shop for jeans the other day and be like, I, I, I know why.
Starting point is 01:41:09 Really wide leg jeans are in, but I look stupid in them. I need something slim. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, young person working here. I know it offends your taste, but I look stupid in those jeans. Anyway, so, yeah, thanks for listening. And Dave, put this baby home. Hey, we'll be back next week with the number one most requested, most voted for topic of Block 2024.
Starting point is 01:41:34 I'm so excited. I can't believe it. I can't believe it either. I'm not ready for it. Tweet. I hope you can believe it, Matt, because you are writing the reports. Yeah, I hope you've got it. I've, it's a big one.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Yeah, it's a whopper. So we'll be back then, because you are writing the reports. Yeah, I hope you've done it. I've it's a big one. It's a whopper. So we'll be back then. Thank you so much for listening. And until then, we'll say thank you and goodbye later. Bye. Don't forget to sign up to our tour mailing list so we know where in the world you are and we can come and tell you when we're coming there. Wherever we go, we always hear six months later, oh you should come to Manchester. We were just in Manchester.
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