Do Go On - 56 - Van Gogh's Ear
Episode Date: November 16, 2016Dutch artist Vincent Van Gogh lived a fascinating and tragic life. This is the story of that life leading up to and following the time he cut off his own ear. Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram:&n...bsp;@DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello and welcome to do go on my name is Dave Warnakie and I'm here with as always Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins. Hello guys. Hello Dave. What did you say?
What did Matt even say then? I said I'm Jess. See normally you and I actually pretty good
at the same thing at the same time. I think we fucked it up So normally you and I are actually pretty good at saying the same thing at the same time.
Oh, fuck.
I think we fucked it.
Did you say I'm Matt? No, you didn't say that.
I said hi Dave.
Fuck.
So I am Matt. So you start again?
Yes, please.
I'm here with Matt Stewart and Jess Perkins.
I'm Matt.
Oh, love it. So good.
What a good gag.
Sink.
And Sink. And Sink.
And Sink.
I mentioned somebody's like really crap at acting.
And Sink.
Absolutely.
Look, you just think something.
If you just absolutely nailed an audition and they were like definitely going with you
until you said and Sink.
I think that's just what a really dramatic plumber would say.
Anything else I can help you with?
And sink.
Oh sure, no worries, I'll get straight on.
No problem.
All the tips of it issue with they sink.
Spoons in it, gotcha.
Stop putting spoons down the sink.
I dropped a pair of very small tweezers down my kitchen sink.
No.
And they're not kitchen sink.
Is it still the act out or is it?
No, in real life.
This is an insight into one piece.
This is nonfiction storytelling at its finest.
The time I dropped a pair of tweezers down the bathroom sink, they're going to be there forever.
What were your tweezers?
What was I tweezers?
Possibly in between the old brown.
Sure. Maybe I'm not a very hero man, but maybe once a year I'll go for a inibly in between the old brown. Sure.
Maybe, I'm not a very hero man, but maybe once a year I'll go for a in between.
Go for a twais.
And that one time, that one time I dropped it down the process.
Hasn't done it since.
That'd be hard to do.
It's a tough to do.
Is it drop a dancing?
What kind of sync is it?
It's very old, it's like in 19.
Just one big hole.
Yeah.
It's just, it's a living out hole.
That's a well.
Are you talking about a well?
I was tweezering over my kitchen well.
And well.
Oh, guys, we're doing well though.
We're all here.
We are doing well.
Matt, you just come back from New Zealand.
Not that the listeners would know,
because we banged a few laps.
But how was it?
In real life, because we've been in a bit of a rush, I haven't asked you,
so I'd like to know,
how was your trip?
It was really great.
I went around the South Island a little bit,
and it was super fun.
What a pretty place.
Beautiful, isn't it?
Oh, some great Instagrams on Matt's account.
Yeah, I really enjoyed some Instagrams you had going there.
Yeah, I don't, yeah, okay.
You got good face.
Very photogenic.
I'm very photogenic.
If I'd say one thing about me to be yes, highly photogenic.
Oh, absolutely.
When people say-
Disgrop yourself.
Two words.
Do you know Matt Stewart?
Are you friends with Matt Stewart?
Yes, absolutely.
I am.
I'm known for a while now.
And I'm like, what's he like?
I said, very photogenic.
And then I go into many other features.
But I always start with photogenic.
Number one.
I think most people would say that.
It's a big one.
What's our first for Wannake?
Wannake? It's tiny. It's tiny. key one key. Oh, he's got a tiny touch but a heart of gold. Two words to describe one
a key.
Now he's
Oh fuck off. I didn't think he was going to go there as if I blissfully forgotten that I was
associated with such a thing. Silly boy.
Silly boy.
So that'd be the top two word descriptions there to probably be nicely dressed.
Yeah.
Golden tonsils.
Sorry, of course.
Yeah, golden tonsils.
I thought we were talking about serious tonsils only.
Yeah.
I was just trying to get a compliment on going joke.
That's the one that you started for yourself.
It just doesn't work like that, does it?
No, that's okay.
And two words to describe, Jess.
Bob-Bob.
Bob-Bob.
Bob-Bob.
Bob-Bob.
Oh, French.
Yeah, I'm French.
Oh, I would have said Nappy-san, mum.
Oh, yeah, Nappy-san's one word.
I guess
Happy San what a weird name for a product. It is a weird San show for Sanatized maybe nappy Sanit
What about hyena laugh?
Hi, there it is. Thank you
All right guys, we get a challenge to the report this week. Let's do it
Which is me reporting which is our favorite. Yes, you always talk about that. He was a...
It's not just us though.
Like listeners of Twiti to us
and said they love water keys as well.
And Matt and I aren't even insulted by that.
Not at all.
We like it too.
100%. 100%.
I hate doing the report.
No, I don't hate it.
It's great.
I'm wondering, because we're about a month out from Christmas.
I'm wondering if there's going to be a Christmassy topic
based on Dave's very Christmassy sweater. What would do cool. Is that a sweater? It's a jumper. It's a knit.
A knit. Christmas knit? Christmas knit. Yes, I would wear this, have
we wear this in April, this outfit? Sure. Always festive. You are always festive.
Festive boy, two more weeks. Two more words. He's our little festive boy.
I've got a topic from the hat,
but we'll start with a question and then credit our author
of the topic.
My question to get onto my report is,
who is the poster boy of tortured artists?
Oh my God.
The poster boy of tortured artists.
Even I get this one, then we'll have a follow up question.
Sure. Post-the-boy of tortured artists, even I get this one, then we'll have a follow up question. Sure
poster boy of tortured artists. Is it if it's a painter? Joaquin Phoenix. Okay, Joaquin
He was briefly he's briefly tortured, isn't he?
Quite that role. Not River Phoenix the one that did die. No, because he was very
To Joaquin. I remember what I said by my answer Joaquin. Letterman. Yeah, and you became a rapper. Yeah, yeah
But then it was it it was just a joke this movie. We're kind of related to working Phoenix Johnny Cash
Are we talking painter? I mean Johnny Cash's somewhat tortured. Yeah, it's problems with the drugs exactly the drugs and the booze the first person
That came to my mind was Vincent van Gogh. Oh, he's nailed it. Oh, right
It's very good. It's supposed to be of a tortured artist.
Yeah. And sorry, Jess was probably trying to make a bit of fun with that, but I just assumed I was wrong.
And I wasn't. Oh no, I thought Van Gogh as well, and I thought I'm going to have a couple of
finances and then we got to jump in. So you just went straight in there. Well, rule of three.
I went for Joaquin Phoenix and Johnny Cash. And fool. We hit him with the rear one. I would have probably said someone like Brendan Favolla.
Sure.
But artist.
And in terms of tortured artists, you know.
Well, he had some, yeah, at some point he had some gambling issues.
Sure.
Artist, though.
On the football field, it was definitely an artist.
Oh, okay.
Well.
The way he could make a ball talk.
Mm-hmm.
It was just, like, seeing was believing. I mean one of his laughing, but he doesn't get it. I'm not a football
He's not a sportsman. This guy doesn't he's our festive boy. My festive boy. I'm a sportsman. Yeah, this is difference
I mean we cross-live now to our festive boy. You're just the address as a Christmas tree. Hello Chris. I'm here
On Christmas day and it's been a fun one.
See you next year.
Boom and I'm going.
And I'm gone.
Thank you, festive boy.
And I pay you enough to last you the rest of the year.
Oh, it's very good.
He works one day.
How do you?
I'll be a dream.
You'd be a great festive boy.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Well, if anyone's listening, you could
sponsor a festive boy.
Get in touch.
This suggestion is actually from Twitter,
from P. Baster.
P. Baster, it's at P.J. Baster, B-A-S-T-A.
So thanks P.J.
Or in our hat, then I'm just listening to P. Baster.
P. Baster.
I'll add a suggestion.
I'll make you, that tickle of juice somewhat there.
Can you elaborate on why that would be?
P.J. Baster.
Yeah, really, it's fun. It's a good name, yeah, because P best or the sound like a great name,
bloody P bastard. Yeah, okay. I mean, I don't know if that
did you shed any more light on people by just saying it again with bloody at the start?
I just I just find that on this show we have, I was going to say famous we are well known
to each other for reporting on people with with funny or I was going to say famous, we are well known to each other for reporting
on people with with funny or satisfying sounding names to say and I think P-Baster is a
satisfying name. P-Baster is a text in the he said Vincent van Goff's ear. I thought we'd
get into a very specific with our three most famous e-related incidents.
I've written down my top three e-related incidents.
Okay, I know, I reckon I know one of them.
It's on the sporting field in the boxing room.
And it's all vango.
That's right.
Number three, June 28, 1997, Mike Tyson, the Evanda Holyfield to the boxing title fight,
build as the sound of the fury.
I didn't know much about this man. Not really, I know that he bit his ear off.
Yeah, right, so.
And then spattered on the boxing floor.
So just the boxing floor?
Remat, the mat.
Boxing mat.
That's your name, you should know that one.
Spattered on the boxing mat.
I never knew much about it,
so I looked into it a little bit,
so I thought of it, but I looked into it a little bit.
So I thought of it, but Holyfield won the first three rounds.
Well, the first couple of rounds, first two rounds.
And then Tyson began the third round
with a bit of a furious attack.
And then with 40 seconds to go,
they got into a clinch where they're locked into each other.
And Mike Tyson just decided to bite Holyfield on his right ear.
And a one inch piece of cartilage from the top of his ear was actually bit
enough and he spat it out. And then Hollyfield shrieked around and pained and runs around, covered in blood, and they call off the
fight, right? And then they decide the doctor says, no, he's okay, and they keep going. I don't know. They keep going. Next round, lock again, Mike Tyson bites him on the left ear.
Oh, for fuck's sake.
This time, I'm only scratching him, doesn't take a bit off, and then they called the fight off.
And then Mike Tyson's like, can't understand why they've called it off.
And he goes for Holyfield, who is surrounded by security, and Mike Tyson starts trying to punch the security guy.
Oh my god.
This is crazy.
I thought it was like bite the ear and everyone's like, well not cool, but they kept going.
Bought me on the ear once. Shame on you.
Tyson was banned from the sport for one year and found $3 million which was not much money for him
other times and then he was back. Yeah and he's still like he's a movie star now.
It's crazy, it's true.
Oh, it's true.
Incident number two, a man that we mentioned a few weeks ago, Mark Chopper read.
Oh, of course, yes.
And I decided to look more into it because we're alluded to it.
If you've ever seen the film, Mark Chopper, which it's an Aussie movie, but it did well overseas.
So I overseas, this is May, know about it.
Eric Banner, sort of. Eric Banner, sort of break through. Break out into Hollywood sort of role.
He was playing Mark Chopper read, everyone called him Chopper. He had a fellow inmate cut off both of his ears
in order to be able to leave each division of Petrich Pysnum.
We were talking about temporarily. In his early biographies he came to did came to get away from people that were trying to ambush him and kill him,
because he pissed off the wrong people.
But then later on, he said that he did it to winner bet.
Oh, boy.
There's only one winner of the bet, and that is not chopper.
No, 100% that's a shocker.
That's a shocker.
That is not a good idea.
But the number one,
a year related incident of all time must be credited to the artist Vincent Van Gogh,
who we're going to talk about here today.
And it is Van Gogh, isn't it?
Well, I'm going to say this at the start of the episode.
He was Dutch, right?
So his real name is Vincent Van Gogh, like a sound at the start of the episode, he was Dutch, right? So his real name is Vincent van Gogh,
like a sound at the end, but then no one says that in English. So more people say Goff
than Goh, so I think Goff is more correct. Right, I reckon I grew up thinking it was Goh.
Yeah, I think so too. I reckon in primary school when we studied his work, we would have said Vincent Van Gogh.
Vincent Van Gogh.
I reckon too.
But Goff is good.
Let's stick with Goff.
I just think it's long as we do the real pronunciation day.
It's Van Gogh.
That lit up, Matt's little face.
Vincent Van Gogh.
He looks so good.
He's going to have to say it 100 times.
Seriously, there's so many times in this report.
He looks so happy when he say it.
All right, let's try it.
And then we'll have our Dutch listeners go.
Actually, that was terribly incorrect.
Yeah.
Probably worse than saying goff.
Sorry, Dutch listeners.
Yeah, sorry about that.
Our former Prime Minister, Gach Whitlam.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Vincent van Gach.
Gach.
He was born on the 30th of March 1853 in Zundert in the southern Netherlands.
He was the son of Pastor Theodoris Van Gogh.
Theodoris.
What?
I told you about Great Nelly.
And his wife?
Pastor.
Anna Cornelia Carbentis.
Oh.
Van Gogh. I like the Anna Cornelia heart. Ohus. Oh. Van Gogh.
I like the Anna Cornelia heart.
Oh, that's great.
These are great names.
Vincent was a common name in the Van Gogh family.
His grandfather was a Vincent, named after his own uncle, also Vincent.
And Van Gogh, the artist, was not even the first Vincent from his parents.
He had an older brother, also called Vincent.
Great.
He died very early on.
Oh.
And then he started to recycle the name.
That's Vincent.
So, yeah.
The other guy wasn't using it.
I don't even imagine if you hadn't seen a family friend for like 10 years and somebody
was like, how's Vincent?
I mean like, he passed away.
Oh, I'm two of your sons.
Oh, no, sorry, you met the second one.
No, he's fine.
The second. He's. Yeah's he's he's yeah he's dad
as well but the third sometimes I forget sometimes I do forget someone with his ears as well yeah
what yeah yeah do you guys have any names in your family that like a pass down
names in your family that like a pass down.
Any recurring names? Got like no.
My mum's middle name is Jane,
which is my sister's name, but it's about it.
There's a lot of Michaels in my family.
My grandfather's Michael, he had a son, Michael, and then.
Do they call him Junior?
I look I wasn't around when he was a junior. No not in my time. Do you call him
senior now? No, but he didn't have a key only had two daughters but one of his his older sister
had a son called Michael. Yeah, there's a Michael on each generation. I don't know if that's
on purpose or what. No, just that can just happen. I think it probably was for your grandfather
to name his son. Yeah, but he did have a lot of kids. He had 14 kids. He was just running, probably running
well in names.
Yeah, we've got lots of them.
I mean, at the time there was famous only 13 names.
Yeah, so it was like, well, we just got a, give him one then.
One of them was so called Gach.
Yeah.
And that was just like, yeah, sneeze, honey.
And the nurse had asked him, what would you like to call it Gach? Oh, hang on, the nurse was like, sorry, yeah, sneeze, funny. And the nurse had asked him.
What would you like to call it?
Oh, hang on.
The nurse was like, sorry, I've written it down.
It's in here.
It's in here.
We haven't invented one yet.
And there's, these forms are very expensive.
Sorry.
I'm sorry.
We've got lots of Phillips.
Phillips.
Philopperkins.
So, that was my grandpa.
Double P, Phillips Perkins.
Yeah, but it's like a foot per you know anyway people call him
foot per my grandpa and then he had one of his sons and then he had one of his
sons and there's lots of Phillips lots of John's too.
The lips are growing now. My dad's John and then we got our parents
names as our middle names so that's that's handy it was only two of us.
Imagine if it was a third and they got some weird made up middle
names. No significance. Come with the two of us. I imagine if it was a third and I got some weird made up in a name. After a combo. No significance.
Conver the two names together.
Jan. John and Anne. Jan.
Or... That is a name.
I will say that Jan.
You loved to be it, but Jan is different.
No, because what if I had a little brother?
What if he's a little man about to be Jan?
Jan. Or Aion.
It's not good is it? That's also a name. I'll have you know.
Aion.
Aion. It was a... What? Aion's your dad's 12th brother, I believe, was Aeon. It's not good is it? That's also a name, I'll have you know. Aeon.
It was what?
Aeon's your dad's 12th brother, I believe, was Aeon's son.
Aeon, yeah.
And then the 13th was a...
And sink.
And sink.
Anyway.
There you go.
Bang off had a brother Theo named after the dad.
He was very, very close to, very closely throughout his whole life.
Then there was another brother,
Kauw, and then three sisters,
Kauw!
Kauw!
Kauw!
His hands like,
yeah,
oh, I don't really feel like going out tonight.
Kauw!
Kauw!
Check out the Tits! Kauw!
Kauw!
Yeah, check it out.
Check it out.
Tits, I'd like to Kauw!
Hang on a minute. Oh, no, no, no, yeah, okay, cool. Check it out. Check it out. It's his unlike to call.
Hang on a minute.
Oh, no, no.
Yeah, okay, great.
Three sisters, Elizabeth.
With an S.
Elizabeth.
Elizabeth.
You're gonna pronounce it differently.
Anna.
And Willa Meena.
Willa Meena.
She got the short straw.
They called it Will.
Who did?
No.
Willa Meena.
Willa Meena.
Willa Meena. So, like, not. Anna, Who did? No. Willamena.
So like, nah.
Anna Elizabeth perfectly great names.
Willamena.
Cool.
Cool.
What's your sister's name?
Willamena.
Cool.
Really?
Cool.
She got a short straw.
They call it like yes.
Shut up.
It happens every time.
Max and Elizabeth was the weird name.
Willamena. That was Willamena on every on every corner. Oh yeah everybody. For some reason, standing out in the corners.
Well this is my corner Willa Mayna. Even in the rooms, just every room, every
straight, there's a Willa Mayna. They're just there with that mayona. Against their own will or.
Yeah, I guess they're in Willa Mayna. Yes.
Wordplay!
Um... We did it, you guys.
Van Gogh, we just...
Stop it there?
Yeah, we're done.
Yeah, I feel like we've peaked.
Thanks everyone.
Peter, I think so much, right?
Van Gogh, some other was a rigid and religious woman who emphasized the importance of family
to the point of claustrophobia to those around her.
Oh, wow, she's very intense.
It had no personal space.
So what's up in your grill? Yeah
She wanted will I mean her in more than just the corners?
The Adoris's salary was modest
But the church supplied the family with a house. I made two cooks a gardener a carriage and a horse. I think they're okay
They were tough times. I mean they have a house they had made two cooks
Yeah, so but two, but one made.
I feel like P Diddy doesn't even have two cooks.
And that's fucking P Diddy.
Am I right?
Or some other contemporary reference.
Did you say one made?
One made.
You'd go two maids and one cook, surely.
I think that's what P Diddy did.
Or like a maid and a nanny.
There's so many children.
Yeah, two cooks.
But maybe the cooks are, you know, all round is too many. So, there's so many children. Yeah, two cooks. But maybe the cooks are all round as two, maybe.
So there's like too many cooks.
Van Gogh was sent to a boarding school and hated it.
That's weird.
But he was encouraged to draw by his mother.
His art teacher at the boarding school's philosophy
was to reject technique in the favor
of capturing the impression of things,
particularly nature or common objects, but it's still life.
That's what it got him going. Later Van Gogh wrote that his youth was Ostea cold and sterile.
Which is... Ostea. He often... I would say that he would describe most of his life like that.
This is why it's the poster word of tortured artists. It will say that it's a, this is why it's the post-war of tortured artists. Yeah.
It will say that this episode, it's a tragic life.
He didn't seem like a happy chap, you know?
No way.
He was no festive boy.
I mean, he may have, he may have, you know, painted the sunflowers, but he was not a human
sunflower, you know?
Oh, no.
He painted things that he was not.
Mm-hmm.
Starry night.
He's not a starry night.
God no.
Bowl of fruit.
He's not a bowl of fruit. He'll eat Bowl of fruit. He's not a bowl of fruit.
You'll eat one.
Sure.
But he ain't one.
No.
Etc.
Prove, prove it wrong everyone.
We know so much about Van Gogh.
He did do self portraits as well.
Which he was not.
Very good.
Oh, hang on.
Oh no.
But they were all mirror images because you you looked at himself in the mirror.
So the opposite of him. What a hack.
Which he was not. Which he was not.
The opposite of him. Yes.
We know so much about the man who was not well known during his lifetime because of
extremely close relationship with his younger brother Theo, who I talked about before.
Their lifelong friendship and most of what is known of Vincent's thoughts about the world and art
are recorded in hundreds of letters
that they exchanged to each other over 18 years.
That's nice.
The letters have been described as having a diary-like intimacy
and in parts read like an autobiography.
So you can, he wrote down nearly everything he thought.
Wow.
Nearly.
The only real, the only real, Gap was when they lived together in Paris
and they had no need to write letters to each other.
Oh, I don't know, I still text my house, mate.
Well, other than letters like we need milk
and take out the trash Ulazy prick,
which has, has survived the generations.
Wow, that's not a museum. My housemate was messaging me the other day
and she didn't realize I was home. I was in my room. She in her room? Yeah. What was she saying?
You in your room? And you wrote, yep. That was it. That was it. End of conversation.
Deb has seen this message. And Sieg. You should write that, too. And Sieg.
You should write that, too. And sing.
Van Gogh's Uncle, Uncle Sent,
which I love because I feel like that's what 50 cents
nieces and nephews would call him.
That's why I mentioned him.
Uncle Sent got him a job at a respectable
and quite famous art dealership,
Grupple and Sy.
I'm definitely saying that wrong to our Dutch friends.
Art dealership, but are you imagining it like a car dealership where they're all a bit dodgy?
Do you want to take it for a bit of a test drive?
And they're all kind of like sleazy oily men.
Yeah, you say the hole in the middle of the canvas? Yeah, that makes it go faster.
You want that? It's pretty good.
You're gonna say something. Well, in a proper way, you could do it with a hole in a canvas.
But I will ask you, instead, David David to please do go on. Fuck it?
Yeah.
Good.
I just could not die not knowing.
Could not die not knowing.
That's confusing.
I wish I was dead now.
He trained up in the art dealership.
He put on the sleazy suits and started selling.
He moved to London to work and this was a happy time for Van Gogh. He was successful in
his work and at 20 he was earning more money than his father. Wow. But how many chefs did
you have? Yeah, that's the question, isn't it? Doesn't mention too many.
Probably had to cook for himself like some sort of idiot. But he had several maids. Yeah, yeah, there you go.
Didn't have to clean up,
but had to make his own cup of soup.
What about, well, if you could pick one,
one made or one chef?
Made.
Made for you?
I like cooking more than I like cleaning.
I'm not saying that.
Is a made a cleaner?
Yeah.
Bit of an all-rounder.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'm gonna make it because I'm never home,
I very, really cook because I'm very,
really home to cook a meal.
So it'd be kind of pointless having a chef there
to cook for me and then I'm not there to eat it.
I'd definitely pick a cook because I cannot.
Yeah, we know, but he can't.
Could I get a toasted sandwich?
Would it be okay for me to just get specifically
a niles from the nanny?
Because he cooks and cleans or? No, he doesn't all around. It makes, uh, little snide comments about people. Which is fun. Which is fun. Yeah, okay, good call. Maybe Daphne from Frazier. Yeah.
Because I think she is, I think she isn't she like the physio, but she seems to do everything. Yeah, she's not like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So that's even better because I get massages as well. All right, uh cook cleaner
Slash made all physio. Oh, okay. No, I'd take physio again. I just take Daphne. I thought yeah. Oh
Yeah
Daphne wins. She always been
Nice fresh references for nanny and Frazier
modern is for Nanny and Frazier. And you know, modern lurch from the Adam's family?
I bet you're going there.
I bet you're going there.
It's further back.
Yeah, I don't know if it isn't.
It's not a real modern TV trope to have a help.
Is it?
I don't think I'd probably don't watch enough of it.
It's probably like an outdated idea now.
They might have a personal assistant.
But they're not going to cook and clean for them.
They just organise their business. What about meet the Kardashians?
Meet the Kardashians.
Yeah, they don't have help.
I don't see him.
They don't like to show him.
Right.
You don't see him.
No, you don't.
I heard that one of the security guys got fired for talking to Kim. Oh.
Something he probably said, hello, where are we going tonight?
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
Oh my god.
I think, yeah, you definitely need more information because if, like, talking to Kim was him saying,
I'm going to fucking kill you.
Yeah.
Then, yeah, fair enough.
He's a stupid bitch.
But if he said, I'm sorry, thanks for having me on my shift is over. I'll catch you tomorrow. She's super big. But if he said, sorry, thanks for having me on my shift is over.
I'll catch you tomorrow.
She feels like an over.
She probably said, I'm going to kill you in your fucking sleep.
Mm-hmm.
That's a good American accent.
Yeah, it's pretty good.
Is it?
Thank you.
Didn't work out on it.
Jess, you've been to America.
I have.
I have.
I have.
I thought that's actually pretty good to care, I thought.
Oh my God. That's That's is that what she said
I didn't know she sounds like like the Valley girl stereotypes sort of yeah, oh my god. Oh my god
Oh my god. Oh my god. Oh my god. This is what she is it's like a combination of that and
That's all you hear I don't know. It's she's with her. She seems to be a bit of an easy target. Oh absolutely
What is she what is she done wrong? I don't know, don't look at me, I don't care.
Yes, what is she done? I know. Yes, you're the one who brought her up so...
So you can bring her down. Yeah, on my favorite show, Me to the Kardashians.
All about, isn't that about the secret lives of their butlers and things like that?
Yeah, that's what I'm about to have us believe. It's about a butcher called Kardashian.
Wait, what is the show called?
Keeping up with the Kardashians.
You'll keep the K sound. They love K.
Keeping up with the Kardashians.
Anyway, we'll spend maybe a little too much time talking about the Kardashians.
And not enough time talking about the Angro.
Angro.
The man of the Yao, he's living in London and he's not dealing out.
In fact, you're with his landlady's daughter.
Ooh, Ula-la.
Eugenie lawyer.
Ugh, not good.
But was rejected after confessing his feelings and she was secretly engaged to another former lodger.
Oh!
Eugenie!
He grew more isolated, this really upset him and remember this is a happy time, his life was on the way out now.
He became very religious religious turned to religion. He transferred to Paris
but got fired when he grew critical of how the art dealership was commoditizing
art which is exactly what an art dealership. They deal in art and that was his
issue. They deal in them too much dealing. Too much money is being asked for these pieces. Like, don't you understand what art is?
Which I find very...
So about money.
To quote Jesse J. It's not about the money.
What about Jasmine?
We're up in the Northern Territory of that rock shop.
Do you remember that?
And I went to buy...
Oh my god.
He sort of took a disliking to... He hated all of us.
Because we're from Melbourne or some of us...
Oh, fucking Melbourne.
No, that was pretty much his time.
Any, pretty guys.
And I went, I, wherever I was being very nice to him, he was like, he was just an old, old funny, funny person.
In the middle of nowhere.
Just with a little rock shot, like just, just to find a rock shot, was it amazing?
Like just bits of rock, yeah. So I went up and that was he's another one
And there's like it's not even a proper shot
But it was like a shed and it just had like honky horn so that he knew to come out to the shed
So you can have a look around these shop honky horn if you want a rock
Beep and every what a rock alarm we drove up in two cars and the front car
Sort of went. Oh, this is what we thought it was gonna be and we'll go behind beep and I'm in the cars and the front car sort of went oh this isn't what we thought it was gonna be
And we'll go behind beep and I'm in the I'm driving the car behind I'm like oh they must have seen the sign saying to beep
Exactly what I started running out hey guys shit. We're stuck in a ditch
You know, well, that's the thing and then he was like you can you can come into the shop
But you can't go out the back. Can I go out the back? There's cameras out there
You can't go out the back and busy and we're like he's got bodies out
He's got cameras out there. He was a very creepy strange man anyway, but then he so I try to buy one of these rocks
It was gonna thing mark two dollars and he said
I'm not you he said I'm not taking your money. I'm like oh, but it says two dollars. He says
No, it's this is that that's what you think like in Melbourne.
You did.
We're not like that up here.
We're not like that up here.
What does that mean?
I don't know.
It's like he doesn't want to make any money for me to do that.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Basically, the Melbourne, selling things for money is very Melbourne.
Yeah.
So you could take it for free.
Yeah, you could do it.
It was like a weird way of doing something else.
Do you think that the rock thing was a front?
No, I think that maybe the $2 one is a test and if you patronize him by buying obviously a shit rock,
he's like, are they just think they have to buy something? $2, all right. I don't know. He's such a strange
human. Bucking Melbourne. He was awful. And then we asked him if he'd been to Melbourne before,
or yeah, and he just sort of started naming places in Melbourne
It was like Flinders Street station and we're like okay, so that's yes
You have been to Melbourne and he goes Melbourne. He's once is enough
Okay champ was probably 50 years ago, but yeah cool. Thank you. You have a lovely day
Bye, and where's that rock now? Better taking pride of place. Did you give it to somebody? I gave it to our friend David
Yeah now better taking pride of place. Did you give it to somebody? I gave it to a friend David. David yeah. David. I'm just very nice. What? What were we talking about?
I was on fire the dealership. He quit because- So was it similar? Yeah. My good example of the rock.
It was similar to the rock. Someone said to him I'd like to buy that painting and he said
that's not how we do it in Paris mate. I don't know about you in fucking Melbourne. That's what I do enjoy that he doesn't like the idea of
commodicizing art, even though that now his paintings are some of the most expensive
paintings in the whole world. But which we'll talk about. Oh, sizzle. Do you think, if
he was listening to this podcast, which I think of as being art?
Do you think he'd be, he'd be pretty anti the whole Patreon thing with we are commodicizing our art, aren't we?
Commodicizing is such a, I've never heard it said before. I like it. And now I've heard it said
Too many enough time good a good amount of times
Commodicizing yeah, I reckon he'd be like you guys are selling out
You used to just pod for the love of pod now. You're all about the money grubbing You can modicise. Yeah, I reckon he'd be like, you guys are selling out.
You used to just pod for the love of pod.
Now you're all about the money-grubbing.
It's not about that.
It's not about that.
We're like, we just want to eat.
Please.
We just want to eat.
Please.
It's a good song.
A little song I just...
That's cute.
Just came up with.
What do you think of his song, Gabe?
So great.
It's a ginger-jang...
Ba bang, ba bang.
Now it sounds like you're singing...
Zombie!
Zombie!
Yeah, which is, yeah, it's a...
Very simple song.
It's made of fourth.
The commodifying of art or they're commod-
commodization.
Commodization.
I feel like it's probably not a word who cares.
April 1876 Van Gogh returned to England taking unpaid work as a supply teacher.
What?
Small boarding school.
I'm not taking money.
They offered him thousands.
He said no.
I'm not going to take money. Commod. He said no. I'm not a client teacher. Can modify. Can modify. Can modify. Can modify. No, I think I saw a
supply teacher. That's like an emergency teacher. Yes. But if anyone, he's got one, has no
training, two, he's doing it for free. If you walked into the school and said, any
teachers a way, I'll do it. For nothing. You'd be like, that's fucking weird. That's great.
You can't be alone with the kids.
You know you can't touch him.
Up, never mind.
Oh, bye bye.
See you later.
Did you see me to panic?
Anybody watching these cows?
I'll do it.
I'll do it.
You know you can't touch him.
So yeah.
So yeah.
How about these rocks?
Two bucks a piece.
I was watching these rocks.
I gotta stop saying watch.
Hey, anyone, anyone, anyone... anyone touching these ass?
All right, yeah. Now that you've been clear, yes.
Please do, no one is.
Position is vacant.
And so is there.
Thank you, thank you.
That's enough.
He then did many.
So is this.
Yes.
He then did many jobs over a short period of time.
Ministers assistant.
He worked in a book shop.
Ministers assistant.
Yeah, you said it really quick.
Ministers assistant.
He worked in a book shop.
And as a minister assistant.
And then we've got to Amsterdam and attempted the university's
theology entrance exam. He failed that. He undertook but also failed a three month course at a
Protestant missionary school near Brussels. He failed that. Not mind if I'm a crack. No, you had a crack.
He then, so he didn't pass the test, but he took up a post as a missionary in Belgium to show
support for his impoverished congregation. He gave up his comfortable lodg took up a post as a missionary in Belgium to show support for his impoverished
congregation. He gave up his comfortable lodgings at a bakery to a homeless person and
moved to a small hut where he slept on straw. So he's quite a giving. Well, you think so?
He thinks that the church would look kindly upon that. No, but his squalid living conditions
did not endear him to church authorities who dismissed him for quote, undermining the dignity of the priesthood.
Well, it feels like they've got that upside down.
Yeah.
Well, you just helped people.
That's not where we're over there.
That's not very Christian.
What would Jesus do?
What would Jesus do?
Take the five star hotel.
Did Jesus ever sleep in some sort of barn?
I don't think so.
I do not think so.
He never saw Hay and his fucking life!
So Van Gogh did not take kindly this.
He cracked it and walked 75 kilometers or 47 miles to Brussels.
He walked home.
He walked to... Wow.
Brussels 75k.
That's a Jason walk, Eric.
That's not a bad walk.
On a bad walk? We really clear a head on a 75k. That's a Jason walk Eric. It's not a bad walk. On a bad walk? We really clear your head on a 75k. That's a half way through you like this is longer than I thought. Half way through you just got a marathon.
You see he's just double the marathon. Two Ks and I'm like this was a mistake.
I should have got a new bow. What am I doing? Is there a tram nearby? I imagine the roads are all beautifully paved back then.
And he would have been wearing very comfortable kn Nike sneakers. Yeah, you're right.
So I think he would have been fine.
He would have been like a nice day to like sunny,
but a cool breeze, so it's not hot.
And he would have had like a Tour de France style
support crew.
Oh yeah.
Like building tents and things for him at night.
I would have had one of those hats
with the couple of drink bottles on the sides.
Yeah.
The foam dome.
I've got a couple of coldies in there.
Yeah, beautiful. Yeah, great time. He had an Apple watch. I found a couple of coldies in there.
Yeah, great time.
You had an Apple Watch.
Check the weather.
That's beautiful.
Listen to his favorite podcasts and the hot tracks.
Podcasts do help a walk.
I do.
I walk you in.
I walk you in from the studio, yeah, so it's about 45 minute walk.
Fluid, flew by.
Why'd you bloody listen to?
I was listening to you know Nick
Kappa's podcast. Oh wait nothing. I fellow so we're hosted by the so-pods
stupid old podcasting. It's kind of a podcasting network at you'd say. Yeah.
Fellow which you know it's a good podcast really do enjoy that. Nick Kappa
high-weight and nothing. I've recorded one that'll come out someday. Me too.
Well we will be plugging the cheater out of that then, guys.
Don't listen to me yet.
Wait for a minute.
Yeah, fuck that.
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You could start your new career in months, not years. He returned to his parents back in Netherlands and he fought with his father who already wanted to commit the young man to an asylum.
Oh, what?
Yeah, so he was already showing signs of mental fatigue, let's say.
He then returned back to Belgium and became interested in the people and scenes around him
and recorded them in drawings after his brother Theo suggested it would be a good thing to
do.
He went to Brussels, studied under a renowned artist who encouraged Van Gogh, so that they've got a Willem roll-offs if anyone's really into
it. He encouraged Van Gogh to study drawing properly at an art school, which is he always
thought that real artists shouldn't study, but he got told otherwise. So he went to university
where he studied anatomy and the standard rules of modeling and perspective.
It's kind of like people who, like, I I'm gonna go to a workshop and learn comedy.
You're like really?
You know, you know, what about?
I think it's a little bit different.
Yeah, sorry.
You're about to say that you can't.
I was gonna say you can definitely learn.
That's like, well, I'm totally.
You're gonna go to doctor school, are you?
Well, that's bullshit.
I'm operating now and I'm self-taught. Yeah, pass me the scalpals
School of fucking life. Yeah, and fucking up this person who just died. Sorry about that
And by the way sir, yes, your wife will not make it. I feel dozens of people and I haven't learned a thing
So, how about that?
I've killed dozens of people and I haven't learned a thing. So, how about that?
I was just here for a haircut.
Oh, shit.
Not a face cut?
Oh, my mistake.
Oh, it's going to take a while to heal.
In the summer of 1881, continuing.
Oh, a good year.
Thank you, I'm so glad you said.
Continuing to draw Van Gogh, moved back home and fell in love with his recently widowed cousin
Okay, key Vos stricker was her name key Vos key middle name Vos
Stricker key Vos stricker key Vos very pretty
He proposed a marriage to key Vos stricker, but was rebuffed with an adamant
Newn nimmer, which means no nay never.
Ouch.
Which is a horrible thing to hear, but undeterred he never
will continue to press his attention.
He has got any hot cousins.
None that I would propose to him all than once.
So they say no, I'm moving on.
You wouldn't press your...
What did you press?
Press his attention.
His attention.
That's not a euphemism, is it?
No, it was just...
He's pressing his balls against the window or something.
And she's like, no, never.
I am pressing my attention on your bedroom window.
She says like, get out of it.
Get out of it! Get out of it! Uh, undeterred, despite the increasing dismay and disapproval of his family, which eventually
led to his leaving the family home again for a while, he decided to continue to express
his feelings. Until in 1881, a led to theo he wrote quote, to express my feelings for Key, I said, Resolutely, She and no other.
And her no-never was not strong enough
to make me give her up.
I still had hope and my love remained,
notwithstanding this refusal,
which I thought was like a piece of ice
that would melt.
He thought he could win her over.
No means no, Gok.
But then he went to Amsterdam to visit her
and her family told her,
quote, told him,
when you are in the house,
key leaves it.
She answers, certainly not him.
To your, she, and no other,
your persistence is disgusting.
Oh!
This is Vincent writes this,
I put my hand in the flame of a lamp and said,
let me see her as long as I can keep my hand in the flame.
But they blew out the lamp.
I love this such a pal.
He's like, I can suffer forever.
Oh, fuck.
I can suffer no more.
Good day.
That's very clever.
And I said, you shall not see her.
And this incident reportedly made Vangroch stop believing in God.
And he never took up faith again.
OK.
So how easy God comes to him and leaves again.
Yeah.
On Christmas day, that year he refused to, which is a,
and the few days later, he refused to attend church,
provoking a violent quarrel with his father,
who's the pastor, which resulted in him leaving home
the very same day.
So he's left home about 700 times.
Hmm.
He's one of those kids.
Oh, those guys.
No, no, never. No name ever.
That's different this time mum.
It's a start up business.
We're gonna be fine.
It's a start up.
You know mine. Like Facebook.
I'm gonna be rich one day mum. You just gotta give me time.
No, I'm not gonna pay any rent.
Fuck off mum. Can we have spaghetti for dinner please?
Thank you.
My favourite. And it's cheap.
Yeah!
Jess just moved out of home for the first time as a 26-year-old woman.
Okay, alright.
And is demanding spaghetti from a housemate every night?
Every night.
She's never home at night, she works nights, but I'm still, I message her and I'm like,
spaghetti for breakfast?
We're Muscatty at, bitch.
We're Muscatty at.
We're Muscatty at. Felly says Mum, and it's him going to ask you. Yeah. I message on my spaghetti for breakfast where my skinny at bitch When my skinny at when my skinny at
Yeah, put in the bowl bitch
Are you saying is it is it is it quite sad to move up the best of 26?
I really that's probably it's probably
I don't think I was like I was I was pretty much 25 I was pretty much 25
Four days after I said 26 what are we talking about when did you how old are you when you first moved out? I was also pretty like 24
About this time to use yeah
Only I was 23 but didn't your parents have the rule of 23?
I did have that rule so did it get to your 23rd birthday? Happy birthday, Matt.
Your bags are packed.
That you go.
Stop putting your balls on the one that I don't.
I'm in your 23 overseas though.
So I came back and.
And you just weren't, have you not been allowed back
in the family home since?
Yeah.
Even the Christmas.
They had packed up this stuff.
I think I, I think I, I sort of took that in a rears sort
of, is that the right?
In your rear.
Oh no, hang on.
Oh, what a mess we've got ourselves in here.
I took the time that I had from when I was overseas
and I tacked that on.
Oh sure.
So it stayed a bit longer.
Were you on sick leave?
Yeah, sick leave.
From your family go.
A cashier missley.
Yeah, well I was away for six weeks, so.
I got an extra.
I got that at half time.
I did it really, that's 12 weeks.
Yeah, just remember I did move back once as well.
I had a break up, I was living with a lady and we broke up
and I was like, oh fuck, we were,
that's made a bit of a mess of the plans.
So I moved back into my old room, which was a storage then
and didn't change anything.
So I did, to get into my into my bed out to climb over boxes.
No, really?
Yeah, and I'm, yeah.
He could have moved on, but you're like, no, no.
Well, it was temporary.
Too proud.
It was temporary.
And how long was temporary?
It was a few months.
Yeah.
Of climbing over boxes, but too proud to move them.
Yeah.
Yeah, and I, anyway.
I know it's hard to keep track,
but Van Gogh is still in the Netherlands.
Sure.
He started to focus on painting and drawing, and in August 1884,
Margot Begumman, a neighbor's daughter and ten years in senior began joining him on his painting for aes,
when he'd go out and find stuff to paint.
She fell in love and he reciprocated a love this, although less enthusiastically.
Yeah, she was more into him.
Yeah.
They decided to marry, but the idea was opposed by both families, following which Margot
took an overdose of Stricnime.
What the fuck?
She was saved when Van Gogh rushed her to a nearby hospital, but they didn't end up ever
getting married.
Why did the families...
Is it because she's older?
Older. I think he wasn't wealthy,
so that's probably what their family would have wanted.
I don't know, but she's over in the hill.
Like if anybody's gonna marry,
they should be grateful.
You know what I mean?
She's old.
And he's...
She's practically dead.
She's...
Even before the strict time.
She's so young.
He's about 30 as well.
They're both neither of them are young in the olden days and
He's like a sad loser like I mean both of them should be just just let him be happy sad losers
Yeah, well, maybe the parents like he clearly doesn't love you as much as you love him. This is fucking sad
Don't do it. Don't do it
The next year he's father died of a attack, so try to be try to think.
During his two years stay in the town of Newman, he completed numerous drawings and water colors
and nearly 200 oil paintings.
Wow.
Starting to really paint every day.
He's palad at the time that consisted mainly of somber earth tones, particularly dark browns
and showed no vivid colors. Anything you imagine Van Gogh now,
it wasn't doing that yet.
His brother, who was actually quite a successful art dealer,
he got into that business, but stayed in, did well.
Theo.
Theo tried to sell some of his paintings,
but had no luck.
There's a record of Van Gogh saying to Theo
that he wasn't trying hard enough to sell them,
but he contended that his paintings were too dark, and not like the impressionist paintings that were taking off at the time.
Which is funny because Van Gogh is known to history as one of the most important post-impressionists.
Helped to kill impressionists, and there you go.
He moved to Antwerp in 1885, where he rented a small room above a paint dealer's shop
He lived in poverty and ate poorly preferring to spend money on
Painting materials and models people get hired a paint bread coffee and tobacco where he's staple diet
Coffee in tobacco that sounds coffee and toast. I'm happy with that. Yeah, it's not that bloody great
I don't know what you would would even have toast. No toast.
Because in February 1886, you wrote the theory, you go, then remember eating six hot meals,
meals in the past eight months. Okay, because I was going to say, toast, you get a bit of
avo, you pop a tomato in the oven, a bit of roasted butter, bell sumic glaze.
We're supposed to be a bit of a stomach glaze. Oh, we just pours for half an hour or so.
We just get our two chefs in here.
Yeah, definitely.
Definitely.
Delicious.
Oh, imagine having heaven.
Because of his bad diet and not looking out for himself,
his tooth became loose and teeth became loose and painful.
He also began to drink heavily, especially absinthe, that was his drink, which absinthe at the time is much stronger than it is now,
so it would like could affect your mind. Yeah, it was a hallucinogenic.
Yeah, so if you're prone to mental illness, probably not a good thing.
Houlousinogen.
Commodization.
You moved to Paris in 1886 where he shared the apartment with his brother Theo, where they wrote the passive-aggressive notes to each other.
Theo, stop drinking the last beer, you dumb shit.
Uh, Vinno began to experiment with colour and made friends with a lot of other artists.
Sure, it'd be Vinny, but yeah, okay, good going.
Vinno had a bit of conflict with his brother Theo.
Oh no.
And at the end of 1886 Theo found living with Vincent,
he wrote another letter to be almost unbearable.
I don't think I could live with my brother.
Did anything so?
Did you do that for a few years I imagine?
Uh, yeah, about 18.
And he moved out and it was much better.
Really? Yes! But then you get on better with him after, alright? Yeah. That's what out and it was much better. Really?
Yes.
But then you get on better with him after, right?
Yeah.
That's what happened with me and my siblings.
Yeah.
It was, you know, it's always tense living in close quarters.
Especially because you're, well, it's generally while your teenagees are in your early
20s.
So you don't, you don't.
You need your bloody space.
You need your space and you don't particularly like each other and you haven't figured out
who you are.
And now, now we get along.
I've always known who I am. Yeah, I bet you have.
What about my festive boy? I mean festive boy since I was five years old. Fests of boys since 95.
Rocking on.
But Fianart, unlike Jess and her brother, the brothers patched it up. They learned to keep living together and
They also made friends with friends with the French artist Paul
Gogan. You mean the Gogan? Yes. I think some of his stuff was just in Melbourne or something.
It was in there a little. I don't know what I'm talking about.
Oh, I believe I saw Gogan as a Googan herb in 1975.
Also underappreciated in his lifetime, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
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I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's quite amazing. That's a go-gan. Go-gan, I know, not like one that you probably not the, a very famous artist, I will say,
but maybe probably not the top five most famous artists.
And what's the go-when will you marry?
Not an injured turtle.
I want to look it up.
You can look it up.
You'll tell me that it's not worth $300 million, because I would argue that nothing
you said.
Yeah, I can't think of, I mean, I am an art enthusiast.
I wouldn't say enthusiast, but appreciate her.
But I can't, I would not be able to justify spending that much money on art.
I don't know a lot about art.
I don't know a lot about art.
But you know what you like.
I don't.
I don't.
I don't.
I have no idea.
Do you know what I do?
Do you know what I do?
Do you know what I do? Do you know what I do? I don't know. I don't. I don't know. No idea. Dave, 300 million? 300 million, show it to me. Matt, you're gonna pay 300 million for that?
Yeah, I mean, it's quite nice.
I like it, you join it.
It just depends, is that, is it printed on a like a doona?
Is it all, or a friar?
Or a friar, or a friar?
Or a friar, or a friar.
Or 300 friaries.
That's actually 300 friaries driven very closely together.
Yeah.
Then we're starting to get close to it, I think.
Yeah, okay, no friar.
The thing is, if you look behind the painting,
there's enough food for the bottom half of Africa.
Just the bottom half.
Yeah, interesting.
300 million.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, okay.
Okay.
So it's more like a sheet.
It's a big sheet.
It's hiding.
It's wrapping paper.
No, it's more of a...
It's a wrapping paper from the festive boys.
It's got. It's a wrapping paper. No, it's more of a it's a wrapping paper from the festive boy. It's got a it's a it's a secret vault
How do you know so much about it? He loves that. I get it. Love it. Love wrapping paper
because you're
festive boy
festive boy towards the end of the year Vincent arranged an exhibition alongside some of his contemporaries
But did not sell any of his paintings
Vincent arranged an exhibition alongside some of his contemporaries but did not sell any of his paintings. Oh dear.
Oh, boy.
Ilfrum drink and suffering from Smokers' cough in February 1888, Van Gogh sought refuge in Arles,
Arles in the south of France.
This time in Arles, he became one of Van Gogh's more prolific periods. He completed 200 paintings
and a hundred drawings of watercolors. He was enchanted by the local landscape and light.
His paintings included harvest, sweet fields and general rural landmarks from the area.
So there's some real famous ones from this time.
He moved into the yellow house, a famous yellow house in which he lived and formed a studio
where he painted some of his most well-known paintings, including a painting of the house
itself, the yellow house. I wanted to recall a painting of the house itself, the yellow house.
I wanted to recall that one.
It was that called the yellow house.
Oh!
It was pretty literal.
The paintings that he did inside the yellow house were all to decorate the yellow house itself,
including the painting of the yellow house.
Wow.
There's a lot of yellow house here.
This is the yellow house section of the podcast. I think I'm gonna go home and take a photo of my building. Is it yellow? No
But I'm gonna then like print that frame it and then put that inside the apartment. That's cool
Yeah, it's like inception. It's artception
Houseception. How seption what you're building like pretty average looking. Right. It's quite inception. It's artception. Houseception. Houseception. What's your building like?
Pretty average looking.
Right.
It's quite nice on the inside.
Are you high up?
I'm a top floor baby, but of two floors.
Oh, top of two.
Top of two.
One is better than two.
Your office is yellow here.
You got a yellow.
I've got a yellow office here.
Oh, I'm going to, we'll get you a print of the yellow house
to hang in the yellow office. Oh,'s good it's good we'll do that.
Do you have a smith 330 mil? I don't. Do you? Yes. I was hoping you would though because I was
gonna use my up something else. Oh you do as your swirf. Preating the northern half of Africa?
Oh that seems more noble than a painting for my office.
Well, you know, it's not a competition just, but there you go.
You lost.
Ha ha ha ha ha!
Cut that!
Van Gogh was desperate to set up an artist colony in Collective.
So when Gogan agreed to visit the Yellow House in 1888, Vincent was stoked!
He hadn't been playing at Cool and had been begging Gogan to come for months.
Please come to the yellow house.
Please!
And after much pleading from Van Gogh, Gogan arrived in our lease on the 23rd of October
and in November the two started to paint together.
Oh, so they had like a week off, like a week of just bonding and like, wine and cheese.
Yeah.
They're painting like arms and like around like clay straw and ghost movie.
Yeah.
And they're just like skipping through fields.
On the roof of an open double deck of bus.
Yeah.
Looking at things, pointing, laughing.
Oh my god, they're laughing so much.
Tom Jones is singing to them.
Yeah.
It's not a new world.
Really low, baby. They're having like latteses and then but then one of them says something funny
And they're like spits out some of their coffee like
And then they have spaghetti, skiddy, together. Oh, the lady in the tramp. Oh, here we go. Here we go
Yeah, they're kissed
That's nice
At first things were great as you can tell from our montage great montage
But then their relationship began to deteriorate At first things were great as you can tell from our montage. Great montage.
But then their relationship began to deteriorate.
Somebody wasn't making enough skitties.
So now there's a bit of a montage of like, you know, like getting angry, throwing clothes on the floor.
One person walking into the bathroom and there's towels over the bathroom and they're like,
Blah, blah, blah, blah, again.
That's awful.
Well, like there's just like, there's all this rubbish,
as the bins weren't taken out.
And I was like, no!
That was the original odd couple.
Yeah.
Van Gogh admired Gogan and wanted to be treated as his equal.
But Gogan was arrogant and domineering,
which frustrated Van Gogh.
Not surprising.
Hmm.
They often quarreled.
Van Gogh increasingly feared that Gogan was going to desert him and the situation which
Van Groch described as one of excessive tension rapidly headed towards crisis point.
It was during the upcoming crisis that one of the most famous incidents in the history
of art would occur.
That's all we have time for this week.
No, we will continue.
Goagam claimed 15 years later, the nights followed
several instances of physically threatening behavior. The behavior was quite complex.
And Theo, the brother may have owed money to Go again, who was suspicious that the brothers
were exploiting him financially because Go again selling. He's not a successful artist,
but he's selling more than Van Gogh is. Can he's lifetime. So they thought they were using him to help pay for the house a bit too much. It seems likely
that Van Gogh had realized that Go-Gan was planning to leave. Paranoia creeping in.
On the 23rd of December after days of rain with the two men shut in the yellow house together,
which is not good if you're having a big fight and then you can't go outside and get away from it.
You're stuck in a small studio. Yeah. Like us. If we get locked in this
studio, I think we'd survive about five minutes. Before we have a fight. Go and if lucky.
He's being very generous with five minutes, a champ on Rupiah Face.
I just said my dominance straight away. I'm imagining Matt trying to leave first
in the doors a bit jammed, so I just immediately ripped a few days later.
I'm like, oh no, here we go.
Look at like, sorry about your face, Dave.
There was just a chair on the other side, there we go.
Whoops, the daisy.
Oh no, I already ripped a face off.
Matt, tell him it was much longer than two minutes.
Please.
Hey, Dave, I think it looks good.
Really big of that, your pompadol.
What a faceless pompadol.
All the blood.
It really brings all the attention to your pompadour.
Yeah, because that's all that's left to look at.
Oh no, I would never.
So after the two days of being in stuckings I would the rain,
go again, later reported that Van Gogh followed
when Gogan left the house for a walk and rushed towards him
with an open razor in his hand.
What?
So he had a bit of a fight and after an
an altercation, an altercation, after an a heart altercation. After the altercation would go again,
then go, return to his room where he was assaulted by voices, so inside his own head, and he severed his left ear with
a razor, and accounts differ how much he caught off either the bottom half or some people
say cut off the whole ear.
With this cause severe bleeding.
Oh, did it now?
Yes, yes it is.
Cutting off part of your head.
That is unlucky.
He must have hit some sort of a blood tube.
A blood tube.
It's unlucky.
That is unlucky because there's only three major blood tubes in the air.
So.
Is that the technical term for them to do a blood tube?
Yeah.
I reckon probably seven out of 10 times you could cut a near off without hitting a
whole tube.
Without any blood at all.
Yeah. Clean cut. How unlucky. at all. Yeah, clean cut.
How unlucky dry cut. Yeah, it's you know, I mean still 30% of times.
Sure, absolutely. I mean, that's not a small part of it.
He was actually so unlucky that he accidentally.
It is unheard of because I cut bloody
Heer it because I cut there heer off.
He's earless.
I'll be the comedy festival 2017.
Yeah, he did accidentally nip his heart.
What?
Nip his heart.
Through the year.
Did he now?
That is not true, that is.
I'm so sorry, I nip his heart.
I did not believe it.
It was a medical...
Chocay, joke.
Chocay?
Is that what he said?
It was a yuck.
He bandaged the wound and wrapped the ear in paper paper So he's got the ear or the piece of ear
Yeah, he delivered the package to a woman at a brothel that went both Van Gogh and
Gogan both frequented what I was thinking like gave her the year
Like if you accidentally cut off your fingers and he pop it on ice and you take it with you to the hospital
That's what I was thinking. Yeah, like he wrapped it up. No, he took it to a brothel
Yeah, it took it to a brothel and gave it to a woman.
It's a very weird thing to do.
He's not well at this point, I'll be honest.
That's a very good point.
First sign of him not doing well.
He was found unconscious the next morning by a policeman
and taken to hospital where Felix Ray, a young doctor,
still in training treated him.
If I've cut off my ear, I want the top doctor.
No, I want the doctor in training.
They want it more
Yeah, I got something to prove I'll give you more attention. Yeah, I think so they're gonna be more thorough
Mm-hmm. They're gonna be more thorough. I reckon they have they've seen it less
Mm-hmm, but they're impressed by it. Yeah, actually I'm coming around I'm coming around
Oh in fact, I want someone who's never done had it. I want the doctor who just is just doing it
Yeah, I'm gonna talk about what's that one. Yeah, absolutely. I'll figure it out. The other one's doing it for money.
Yeah.
It's fucked up.
Jesse.
Jesse.
I'm dirty.
I want to go ahead.
He couldn't touch any kids or cows,
but they would let him touch sick people.
Oh, then go.
He's touched a couple of years, and he's time.
Who has an after touch a couple of years?
Touching one right now.
Wait, what are you saying?
All right. That's a near.
Yeah, I thought you were saying use.
Yeah, I've cupped a couple of years in time.
Capped a couple of years.
Ha ha ha ha.
What sweet about this,
I've cupped a couple of years.
I've cupped a couple of years.
What's up?
It's like a job interview.
All right, what can you bring to this role?
Cup to cup of a yous in my time?
Life is good.
Sorry.
I have cuped a cup of yous in my time.
Sorry.
Did you not speak English in this fucking job?
Hmm.
I really enjoyed that act out.
Thank you.
You're gonna be a star, kiddo star.
See?
I'm a festive boy.
The ear was also delivered to the hospital to Felix Ray,
but he did not attempt to reattach it.
There's too much time at past.
Yeah.
You gotta check that shit on ice.
Does it the brothel dress?
Or, I don't know, this is true.
In milk.
You heard that?
Excuse me?
Cut off a finger.
Chuck in him is honestly.
If you are at home in a crisis and this has just happened,
Google it before you do that because I don't know if it's true.
Yeah, I'm picturing it like, you know, your fingers go all funny and above.
Imagine it's sitting in milk.
I feel like it yet, and it just swallows out of like, oh hang on, hang on, I'm just confused,
medical advice with my fetish again.
Yeah, I'll do it.
I'll do it. Oh no, no fetish again. Yeah, I'll do
Mildering milk I don't know how to explain myself to you. Yes, that's what I use
I use milk cut you Yeah milk from a you
That's how you get the milk you cut them
That's a mime engraing-grabbing teats.
Shape teats.
Nothing weird about that, mate.
Just a natural shape teat.
I've kept a couple of used shape teats a month time.
Oh, sorry, I didn't realize that was a context.
You're hired.
That was the second half of the job interview.
After you just said, don't you speak English with this fucking job?
It's delighted.
Yeah, that's how qualified I am as a doctor of podcasting.
When you work in hospital of Angroch,
himself had no recollection of the event.
Go again, who was sort of part of the incident.
Immediately notified Vincent's brother Theo,
who arrived the next day on Christmas Day.
During the first days of his treatment,
Van Groch repeatedly and unsuccessfully asked for go again.
Come, he's obsessed with him.
Yes.
Who had left for Paris?
Yes.
Hmm.
He'd left for Paris and he never saw Van Groch again.
Yeah, no, good call.
Sam.
He's a...
It's psycho.
It just seems like he gets pretty obsessed with people.
Yeah.
Yes, very obsessed.
And the one time somebody got obsessed with him.
She took a lot of pictures.
Not anywhere.
Maybe that's it.
He just, yeah, okay.
Loves the chase.
Yeah, he loves the chase.
Don't wheel all the time.
Don't wheel all the time.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah. He made a home. I can still picture Dave chasing them, using love the chase. Don't we all die
You made it home. I can still picture Dave chasing them use round the
Edel loves it. Edel loves it. Let me cap you let me cap you little use
Well, no, I've dropped my tweezers down the well. Oh
Now the story comes out. Yeah, oh, yeah. Alright, I wasn't tweezering the bright out all.
I don't have enough hair in my face for that, Jesus.
I was twaising some yeeees.
Tweezing some yeews.
That's highly illegal.
Highly illegal.
Van Gogh made a home early in January, a couple of weeks later.
But he spent the following months between hospital and home because he was having hallucinations.
In March, the police closed his house after a petition from 30 townspeople who described
him as,
Lear for Roo, the red-headed mad man.
Oh boy.
He went back to hospital and voluntarily entered an asylum.
He gifted Dr Felix, a doctor that had been looking after him a
painting that he'd done called Portrait of Dr Felix Ray. The physician was not
fond of the painting and used it to repair a chicken coop. Oh my god. Then later
gave it away. In 2016 the Portrait was housed at the Pushkin Museum of Fine Arts
and was estimated to be worth over 50 million dollars.
Holy shit!
It was once part of a chicken.
Was it, so they'd taken it off the chicken coop?
Yeah, and then sold it to someone else who down the line at Solder now was 50 million dollars.
I was enjoying picturing it in the museum still part of a chicken coop.
Yeah, it'd be good.
Like that would be, that would be really...
It was really old chicken.
That's art.
You know the chickens are still there. I'm considering just bones of chicken. What really old chicken That's a Chicken's are still way
I'm considering just bones of chicken
What's that? That's chicken
No, they're still worldwide
Sorry, there was oldest chickens
Oh, it's all of us chickens
Well, that's worth $50 million
Yeah, there's a bit more
They've got some stories, those chickens
No, chucks
At a chaplain suggestion, he Vanangoff chose to be at an asylum in nearby St. Remy.
His mental condition remained stable for a while and he was able to create some of his
most famous work now including Stari Knight. Beautiful in Nitska. He had a few relapses but
eventually seemed to be coming good and was discharged and went to live in an artist's
commune in northern Paris.
Vincent's health was then up and down as documented in letters to his brother.
Sometimes he would talk of being happy and then other times he'd just the opposite.
After living in the commune, thank you, man.
Subtext, subtext.
Just for our American listeners.
A bit of translation news.
Opposite of happy, sad.
Oh, is it?
Americans are notoriously happy all the time.
So I wouldn't know about sadness.
I wouldn't ask them how they were for sad.
That is intro.
Inuit, steak.
Inuit, it's actually fish.
Or what?
Ice.
What are they?
We're going to million words for.
Ice.
It's not a million.
A million, Jess.
I mean, you get out of here.
I just find it all day.
All day.
Coming up with new words.
Yeah.
They're very cold.
After living in the commune, this is the art economy for three months.
It's brought to the theory.
So I started to suspect he was having problems again.
Suggested Vincent, consulted a doctor. But he was two into his art and I said he was devoting too much time to his
canvases.
Then on July 27th, 1890, Bangoruch left the inn where he was staying.
He left after breakfast, but did not return as usual.
When he had not returned by dusk, the family he was staying with became worried.
He finally arrived home after nightfall, somewhere around 9pm clutching his stomach, clearly in pain.
The mother of the family asked whether there was a problem. Van Gogh started to answer with difficulty.
He said, no, but I have. And then just went up the stairs. Didn't finish the sentence.
Oh, that's ominous.
The father thought he could hear groans and found Van Gogh killed up in bed.
When he asked whether he was ill
Van Gogh showed him a wound near his heart explaining. I tried to kill myself
During the night Van Gogh admitted he had set out for the wheat field where it had been painting as he did every day
But during the afternoon he'd shot himself with a revolver in the chest and passed out
The cold air of the night had broken him up and then he decided to walk home.
What?
He shot himself in the chest.
He went home to bed.
Yeah, he went home to bed.
Oh no.
They call the doctor Dr. Gashay.
Oh okay, great doctor name.
There's a great, one of the most expensive paintings ever sold is called Porter of Dr. Gashay.
It was as good because Van Gogh had a pretty bad gashay.
LAUGHTER
He dressed the gashay, but left immediately because he considered it to be a hopeless case.
Oh, what?
The doctor doesn't stick around.
No, the father of the end of the artist Anton Hirsching spent the night at Van Gogh's bedside.
The artist sometimes smoked, sometimes
grown, but remained silent all night long, dozing off from time to time.
As soon as the post office opened on Monday, they sent a telegram to his brother Theo, who
arrived by train during the afternoon.
He watched over Van Gogh, who fell into a coma and died at 1 o'clock in the morning, 37
years old.
Oh wow.
One of the final things he said to his brother who told him they try and make him better is
one of the saddest things I've ever said.
He said, this sadness will last forever.
Oh, one of the last things he ever said.
That's really sad.
I had to.
Extremely poetic.
It's very poetic.
I had no idea he had such a life.
Such a life.
Yeah.
Our Theo's health deteriorated in the months after the death of his brother. He himself was
admitted to a psychiatric hospital. A few months later he died January 1891 just six months after his
brother. 1914 Theos body was exhumed and re-barried with his brother in the northwestern suburbs of
Paris. In two very, you'd expect one of the most famous artists of all time to have a great grapes just a very normal pretty normal looking grapes turn. Oh wow! Vincent was
known to sell only one painting in his lifetime. It was called the Red Vignade, a
Belgian artist and a Bach and art collector. She bought the painting in early
1890 so the year he died is the only time he ever sold something. Wow! For 400
francs, about two thousand dollars today. It's thought that maybe she liked the painting
or maybe she just wanted to support Van Gogh who was being criticized for his work at the time.
He did, so he, that was the only one he ever definitely sold. He did, however, trade paintings for
food and supplies. So in a way, he gave away lots of his work. And his lifetime, he's known to have
created about a little over 2,000 artworks, including
nearly 900 oil paintings.
So if he died with no one knowing who he was, when did respect for the artist take off?
So I'm going to finish here.
Theo wanted to make his brother famous after his death and tried to raise his profile,
but before sadly dying himself, as I said.
So Theo's widow, Jo Van Gogh.
Oh yes, yes.
Because at first I was like, Jo, it's just Jo Van Gogh.
Jo Van Gogh sounds good, but Jo Van Gogh, Bonga.
Bonga, there we go.
She said about completing the task of raising her brother-in-law's fame.
She sold some of Vincent's works, loaned others out for exhibitions,
and also very importantly published the letters between Van Gogh and Theo,
and people became fascinated with his tragic life.
Oh, wow.
And that's sort of a built his profile.
How do you build his profile?
And then other people were like,
oh, hang on, these are actually amazing.
Wow.
But it sounds like so,
it was within her lifetime,
so not too long after.
No, well, the next year,
after he died,
there were retrospectives of his art in Brussels and in Paris.
And during the 1890s, there was several stages
across the Netherlands and Belgium where we've done a lot of work.
So he's profiles raised within a couple of years of his death
in that part.
And then art gallery started buying his work
across the world, including the Museum of Modern Art in New York
and the Taint in London.
Yeah, wow. Who owns the, who's got the big ones? Who's got Star and Art and the self-portrait?
Well, any gallery that's something has a van Gogh.
No, well, because there's so many.
Well, there's a van Gogh Museum.
Yeah, there's a van Gogh Museum.
Amsterdam.
Yeah.
Have you been there?
I walked past there.
One of two million people that visit every year now.
Two million.
So two million?
A guy that thought he died of failure.
Yeah, incredible.
Isn't that absolutely bizarre?
So you didn't go to Alcatraz and you didn't go to the van Gogh, and he's...
Someone's been giving me a bit of shit on Twitter about watching the Gritine games that
are going to see the prison.
I still like, let's go see something that happened in the olden days.
He's taken some culture right now.
This is an American culture happening before my eyes.
Great, great day.
How many great times?
No regrets.
No regrets.
You can't have them.
I'm just going to finally finish with the value of Agos work.
So you're probably only sold one penny lifetime for about $2,000 US dollars.
But on the all-time most expensive paintings ever sold list, Vincent has eight paintings.
What?
All sold for all up $723 million.
Oh my God.
Five of them when they were sold to the most expensive paintings ever sold at the time
and the last one was in 1997 so they're just going up. Because they're so rare that it's
people don't sell them. And that's just the ones that have been sold most of the across the world
are the galleries that have them. They would be worth multi-multi billions of dollars.
That is crazy. He died. He died thinking I'd
keep done nothing. Yeah isn't that absolutely tragic. But there you go. Wow. The
story of Van Gogh's ear. That is. And the tragic laugh around his ear. That is a great
story. That is a really great story. I didn't know a lot of that. Right. Did you at the
museum do they talk about them? Yeah. Three years ago. I don't know a lot of that. Right. At the museum, do they talk about them?
Yeah, it was three years ago.
Three years ago, I don't know.
And they're looking at the painting.
I would like to, I've never been to the Netherlands,
and I would love to go to see some of those.
She goes. It's very beautiful.
And yeah, the museum's very good.
And the artwork is quite good.
Yeah, really.
I walked past it on my way to a brewery in Windmill,
which was awesome. So good.
That's culture.
Culture.
That's culture.
That's culture.
With a capital C.
Capital K.
Culture.
Capital K for Kim Kardashian.
Yeah, okay, your favorite.
Kim Kardashian culture.
That was a great report, Dave.
Well done.
Thank you kindly.
Yeah, great story, and I'm fascinated by his life,
but also a bit of a tragic one at the end
sorry about so to bring the sombiness down but I mean maybe it just gives us all hope you feel
like you're not doing well just wait till you die I'm just remembering we did a sketch about
van Gogh Christmas some after posted yeah I that links links your jumper and it links the festive boy with the
Was I think yeah, I remember that's good. It's a good one put that up. So thank you to PJ Baster
Al main man all woman PJ the Baster very good
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