Two In The Think Tank - 63 - James Bond

Episode Date: January 4, 2017

This week the topic is Bond (James Bond)! Matt talks us through the history of Bond, from the novels to the films... It's a bloody big topic, but Matt did his best (and it turns out that Jess and Dave are big Bond fans!) Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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or on campus, and financial aid is available to qualified students, including the GI Bill. Now is the time! MyComputerputercareer.edu. to do go on for another cracking year we hope. My name is Dave Warnicki and I'm here with the Crackin Legends that are just Birken's and that Matt Crackin Stewart. Yeah, you're the Crackin' other legend. Yeah, I've long been called Matt Crackin' Stewart. I like it. And that is a Crackin' K-R-A-K-E and the Monster of the Deep. Yes, you're a monster.

The Crackin' The Monster of the Deep. Guys, it is a new year. A new us. A new us. I am no longer Dave. I am Jerome. Jerome. Now it's the major Jerome.

Oh, welcome Jerome. Thanks for being here. It is really good to have you on the part. I have legally changed my first name to Bob now. So the deep hole came through. Yeah, it came through on Sympathetic first at midnight. So in many ways January 1st. January, so 2017 is a year of Bop. New year, new year of Bop.

New attitude, I hope. No. No, I don't. Well, it is new, but it's worse. Yeah. Release the cracker. No. That's got a catchphrase now.

It's all happening. Yeah. Oh, it's just. My new year's resolution was to say my catchphrase now. It's all happening. Yeah. Oh, it's just, my new year's resolution was to say my catchphrase more. Oh, yeah, great. So, yeah, look, keep your eyes peeled for that. Can't wait. Is it released the crack?

Yeah. That's what we just said. Oh, my God. He's is to listen less. No, no, I just need to confirm. Do you have any new year's resolutions, Dave? New year's News resolutions resolutions. I thought of that by now, should I?

Maybe in a non-funny way, be a bit more fit? Okay. That is not funny at all. I played a Christmas party that was a cricket game. Yeah, sure. And I actually tried pretty hard and it was fine, but the next two days I felt awful. Like I was so sore. From cricket?

Exactly. And that just made me wake up. You're not young like you used to be. I, yeah, no, it's a similar thing happened to me. I played a pretty ruthless game of Croquet, and I think I'm still hurting, and that was a weakie, go. Well, Paul, Paul, how do you mean? Yeah, well, I pulled a, a like a, what's that muscle?

What's a muscle that does that? I can't, that's not a good gesture that you're doing that a demonstrate. So that's that. You're doing the thing where you put the ball through the little hoop. Yeah. You're croquet.

You're croqueting. It's my croquet muscle. That's what it is. You pulled this croquet. I've also got another news resolution and that is that at any possible opportunity I'm going to release the Crack in. Oh very much. It sort of appears nasty with my catchphrase actually. Yeah it works because you can yell the catchphrase before doing the action. Two birds. Yeah that's

great. Hey good for you, that's smart. Doing two birds with one stone. So to speak. Very good. My news resolution once was to be able to lick my own elbow and I can do that now. So that's a new used resolution. And you know how he did it is by every night he just stretched that muscle and got closer and closer. Stretch before bed. Everyting the night. I've done that for four years now.

This has been a while. Do you still do it? If I don't do it, I feel terrible. I don't know how people aren't stretched more. That's my message stretch This is the guy who was sore after playing I know I'm not here I'm stretching I should have stretched more. Well, I think you're stressing I've never less. Hey anyway, let's cheers to the new years. Cheers to the years. Oh

We got beer all over the control panel. Hold here sparks are flying We got beer all over the control panel. Hold here. Sparks are flying. Yeah. Ah! No, it's great to be here. I think things are going to be really good in 2016. Still looking up.

I'm looking up. Across the world, do you think everyone's going to have a bit of a year? Because 2016 was. People repeated, please talk to me about it a lot. It's so funny, because everyone has been talking about that all week, or all year really. I've had a great year. A-two! Last year was super good.

It was the year of the pod. Oh true, yeah I guess so. We really came into our own, didn't we? We had a great like first 9 or 10, not like 10 months. Until you cracked a rib? Until we have to start praying for you. Yeah, that's true. And then just a lot of things just started to go wrong.

I was like, I'm ready for this year to be done. So now we're in a new year house, rib still it's very sore. So woke up much better thank you. Yes I'm all healed. Ever since you've been called Bob. So yeah officially. Yeah yeah you're right yeah. What? I didn't like a I know just doing formal things was that sorry first name Bob one more time. This was like, sorry, first name. Bob, one more time. Bob. How do I spell that? Exactly as it's how it's.

Yeah. Bob. Bob. Bob. How was that hard? Bob. Bob. Bob.

Bob. Bob. Bob. Oh man. You should change your name by default to that. How? How would you spell that? Bob.

I think you'd need to let it from a different alphabet. Yeah. It's just an exclamation mark maybe. Maybe it's just B-O. Bob. No, I'd have to be Bob. No, that'd be Bob. No, no P.

No, that would be Bob. Bob! Bob! Yeah, and then I'd be like, you pronounce the exclamation mark you dickhead. Like this. Or I couldn't do it. Bob.

Anyway. Hey, another new- It's fun, everyone. If you're at home, try. Have a go. Anyway. It's fun. Have a go. It's really good fun. Another New Year's resolution of mine is to nip out our ever-increasing opening bullshit chat. I'm going to nip it. Unfortunately, because my New Year's resolution I thought about is actually to extend this

and because I am younger than you, I have more time to live, hopefully, for me. So I sort of trump you, so I'd like to keep talking about your feelings on global warming, Jess. Okay, here's my thoughts on global warming. Great, I'm just excited. I'm really disappointed Matt then took a sip of his beer and sat back. I really wanted him to interject because I have nothing to say about that. Yes please I'm gonna stop you right there. Thank you very much. Matt it's always bloody silent in your opinion on the podcast you're a climate change denial and I'm sick of it. I'm turning your mic off just have a go. Thank you. Back to the question please.

Yeah so my thoughts are. Yes no no please. Now honestly let's get on with the fucking show. Okay well uh we'll save that for another day. I guess I'll have to do a topic on global warming. Please, nobody suggests that I have no nothing. Please do that. I think you know one thing. It's a relatively bad. Is it?

Well, it's all right. Is that? I'm pretty sure. Just as mine is open for mold. Pretty sure. Ah, look, I'm not a scientist. How much money would you put on it? I'd put all my money on it so nothing yes it's a pretty safe bet for me you get my debt all yours patreon.com

Matt speaking of patreon I believe that Matt has got a new topic first because your topics are now actually listening to voted through Patreon. Yes, that's right. From a couple of my last topic was the first one, but this one again, every three weeks, or whenever I do a topic, it will go to the vote to the Patreon listeners who think subscribe for two dollars a month. I mean, pretty rich, to be honest. I'd say overvaluing the right, but it's been really good because people have You're not very good at selling the patreon. I'll just stop you right there And I suggest to have a go while simultaneously explaining her thoughts on global warming

She wasn't good at doing one of those at a time. No, I give it to and I broke her other rib somehow one of those at a time. No, I give it two and I broke it at other rib somehow. I don't know, the laughing hurt. No, you're right. I'm selling two dollars over a month, it's probably even I could almost afford that. But, all right. We did have to tell you to stop subscribing to the podcast. Yeah, I was bankrupt. But it was giving us a thousand dollars a month which is weird. It was crazy, but I was happy. I was stealing. I was stealing from my friends. Yeah, to then.

You guys put back into the podcast. Anyway, so you put it to the vote and the people have spoken. So this one actually also comes in from the Golden Hat as well. So that which is a level of the Patreon you get to guarantee that your topic comes up. And it was by a guy called Alex Cossey. And he loved our back to the

future trilogy episode which was one of my episodes. Thank you every now and then someone likes what I do and it's nice to be appreciated. I always like what you do. Why are you in a meeting? I sometimes like what you do. There you go. I'm in your biggest fan. So he, I'm not your biggest fan, but Jesse. But I'm true. You're on my wall and I every morning I say go get a Maddie. I'm just doing it. I'm treating you on my wall and I every morning I say go get a matty. I'm doing, yeah I'm just treating you to that. I'm going to picture of Jess's wall on my wall. It's very confusing. So he really liked that episode and he just asked more broadly that he wanted us to do another movie franchise.

So I put that to the vote with four suggestions. So my question to you guys is without even telling you what the four suggestions are, what do you think our listeners would have voted for as the movie franchise that they wanted to do a typical thing? We can narrow it down, we just have a go. Jomin and Aradam? Oh, and we can have a guess each other. So you've given them four options and they've picked? Yeah, maybe I need to do I need an Aradam. I would just make maybe terminator? Terminator, I don't even know, I didn't give that as an option. Indiana Jones. I gave that as an option But it was not chosen. That's an English one long. It's quite a long history over 50 years now in the cinemas

Oh my god, is it James Bond? It is James Bond. Oh my god. I'm so excited Yes, an opportunity for me to do my bad Sean Connery accent. Oh my god, yes, I fucking love James Bond. Me too. And I really wanted to do this as a topic, like one day. But I was also like, Jesus, Jesus, you've got to do a lot of research. Because James wanted his huge, his massive mat. They chose Bond over Jones. But in a long way, more than half.

Oh, awesome. All the half went for Jones Bond. I think second place was Shrek. Shrek is great. So that was your joke, it's great. No, I liked Shrek's idea of was Shrek. Shrek is great. Surely that was your joke hence. No I liked Shrek. Shrek is great because it came from a book as well. Shrek.

Oh and it had a different actor that Mike Myers replaced. Really? The guy who had done like 90, I wish I knew that it was name. He done like 80% of the dialogue and then died so they got Mike Myers. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. the original guy did a Scottish accent Wow, yeah, I'm pretty sure Mike Myers came up with this Anyway, that was

That's well, we've been doing that topic Hey guys, it's going back in the hat Because obviously these guys love it Yeah, they did And I know something about it, something strange Also, I opened up comments on it this time on the poll Yep And there were eight comments

And four of the comments were about Shrek Like going, you got to do Shrek and you got to talk about specific Shrek thing. Awesome. Which is the one that said the ones who wanted Shrek really wanted it. Yeah, the die heart. Which is cool. Do you want to die in there? That wasn't in there.

I don't know. Do you want to know one of my fondest memories of Shrek? Is it when I was 11 and well I was about to get braces. I got braces quite young and I had to go get teeth pulled out first So I'd been to the dentist and then I got home and I saw lots of painkillers My mum had bought me Shrek on VHS and so I was lying on the couch watching Shrek and she was on the phone I think to my dad and then the painkiller started to wear off, but I was in a lot of pain. I was just like She's all the face like I've got to go. Jess is crying

But that was just what you were terrified of, I swear. Yeah. I've got to turn off the movie. It's too much for her. It's too scary. It's too overwhelming for her poor little brain. But we should maybe, oh, if anyone does want to hear that, let us know, we'll put it in the hat. But one of the other comments, which I think maybe Jess in particular might like.

So the comments were different things. Some of them were like questions say, or can you explain this thing about Bond? Because I feel I'm about Bond. Yeah, sure. But one of the Bond-related ones, and I don't know who wrote it because it doesn't leave the name only. It's somewhat anonymous, I think, but the comment was three words. Perkins. Bob Perkins. That's awesome. The Needs Perkins, Bob Perkins. That's awesome.

The name's Perkins. Bob Perkins. Okay, well Dave, you've ticked off another one of the comments because... Was it a request to do Sean Connery? It was. Also, lots of Sean Connery impressions are required. Great, no problem. That will probably happen. And deliver. Yes. All right. Anyway, I think I

Could have written on this for weeks. It's huge. I only had only out of you know a few weeks But it was also the Christmas and New Year's period. Oh, hey, you've been busy. Just you're obviously fan. Love it I studied James Bond. I don't I It sounds like I'm the least fannie man. That's okay. I've got the box out. I've seen them all. Really? I'm all my set. Well you guys are gonna be out of film some blanks potentially because I have reckoned I've seen a small handful one of my earliest films I can remember seeing was Thunderball on TV. Oh yeah my parents let me start wait late to watch it and I enjoyed it so much that at age six my dad talking to me to see Golden

Eye the first two firsts, which is one of his first, his is his best film. And they didn't make me pay for a ticket because I was so small in the seat, my tush, so small. And then how long ago was this? Not even like a kids ticket 20 years ago. And then half a two the film when he's kissing a Zenia on the top, who's the's the evil Russian lady, but they have a lot of sex even though he knows she's a bad girl. I stood up in the movie and yelled out, don't kiss her, shoot her! In the whole movie, what are you talking about?

Oh, that's so cute! That's cute, did he want some murder or woman? No, but he gets it, he knows what's going on. Oh man, I was highly perceptive, aren't you? I don't think I'm a... I wouldn't say I'm a Bond expert, I may not be able to fill in a lot of gaps, but I am an enthusiast. I haven't seen all of the films I don't think. But I studied James Bond a couple times at uni, two different uni's.

What do you study? Study James Bond. Yeah, but what do you say? What do they... Well... Just like the history of the movies, that kind of thing? Kind of, no, it was more to do with like sociology. So James Bond is actually a really good representation of society at the time. And like you can because each time the gadgets are from that era, it's more about

behaviors. So even if you look at like how Sean Connoir treats women in the in the films, it's like he's really bad. He literally one time tells it a go away because the adults are talking, like it's amazing. Oh my god. And then in the more recent ones, like the women play a more integral role, or the like James Bond is always gonna be a bit of a sleaze, but he's a bit better. Was M always a woman?

Cause the same Judy dance now. No, it wasn't. I mean, many years was the same man. Same guy. So that's probably one example of that, maybe. Yep. Which is the big boss. Yeah, exactly. And he obviously obviously he does respect her quite a lot

This report actually because I have done a fair bit of work on this so it is quite long so she gets stuck into it It's long for me. It's not Dave long So this first line feels a little bit Unnecessary James Bond is a fictional British spy created in the early 1950s by author Ian Fleming. What? During his time serving in the Naval Intelligence Division, Fleming began planning his first Bond novel. He told a friend apparently, I'm going to write the spy story to end all spy stories. Imagine being that friend, you'd be like, no, I'm gonna write the spy story to end all spy stories Imagine being that friend you'd be like no or I'm a right. Oh Ian get a bad Ian Stop talking lights out with 10 minutes ago fuck sake Fleming

Nothing by an Ian has ever been remarkable in any way It's what I would have said go to bed Anything of any good Ian Ian? Ian Fleming. Ian McKellen, sorry. Ian McKellen, oh no. Ian McKellen, sorry. I'm so sorry, Ian. I fucked up there.

Oh yeah, that's it though, that's the end of the list. He's either Gandalf or the other one or neither. He's Magneto, I know that. He's Magneto. He's Magneto. That's lovely. Is he Magneether? That's lovely. Is he the other... is he Gandalf the Grig? Yeah.

Yeah. I said that wrong, I think. And in 1952, he began writing his first bond novel, which was called Casino Royale. It's a sweet name. It's so good. Apparently, he started the book shortly before his wedding to his pregnant girlfriend and Charteris to distract him from the upcoming

you want a distraction? Yeah, I'm distraction from your wedding. Hang on, I've got a lot of planning today. What am I gonna do? I'm gonna write the star story to end all. Ian, lights out was 10 minutes ago. I'm home and you're my wife. Fleming base. Soon to be. Don't get ahead of you, if you love Anne. I could cut you off at any time. Yeah. I'm going to be really rich one day with the spy story to end all spy stories. Well, last week's episode was didn't end too well for a few married Anne's. Yeah, I was, she, as she and Anne with an A. I forgot that I'm having an answer. No, no way. So that's how she got through.

I didn't I never realized it was another way to spell it. I don't blame it. Well, well, a recipe fit as a stir of your tap. If you ask me, like nobody asked. No one did. Can you please ask? Flaming Bay spawned on a bunch of different dudes are written. He encountered a lot, which is fucking stupid. But you get that from a like is this like a quote? This is a quote from a, do you hear? He does some heaps of dudes.

Uh, he, he, guys that he encountered while in the Naval Intelligence Division in World War 2. At one point saying that Bond was a compound of all the secret agents and commando types he met during the war. As well as basing Bond on secret agents he met during the war. As well as basing Bond on secret agents he met during the war, he also based Bond's appearance on the composer singer and all around, Stuttmuffin, Hogi Carmichael. Oh, Hogi. I don't know if that's 100% true or that's what people think that he did, or I don't know if that's necessarily verified,

but you see pictures of that guy and some of the earlier illustrations and they do look quite similar. Okay, cool. Not at all like the cinematic Bond's. Sure. pictures of that guy and some of the earlier illustrations and they do look quite similar. Not at all like the cinematic bombs though. He also gave Bond many of his own traits including his love of golf and also of gambling. Apparently he even gave Bond his golf handicap. And also the thing where... Read Aster egg to leave in a novel. That, like, the way Bond says Bond. James Bond. That's how Fleming introduces himself to. I think he says Fleming. Ian Fleming.

Even to say he says Bond. James Bond. I don't know. That would have been much fun. I'm sorry, so your ID does not match your name. I can't let you check in. But I'm here at the golf tournament. How I gonna play this is all it's all gone. And that doesn't match her name either. It's got an A on the password. Fuck. Well, there's been a problem. You heard me pronounce it an A. I said it with an A, didn't I? No, I don't think you did, sir. Step off. Step off. Fleming was an avid bird watcher. No, no.

It's a character. Is that what it's called? It's a Twitter or an ornithologist. Yes, ornithologist is nice. Twitter is a great word. Which is so fun. But yeah, so he actually took the name of James Bond from a well, another well, an actual well-known ornithologist.

Really? And this is what he said. He said, when I wrote the first one in 1953, I wanted Bond to be an extremely dull, uninteresting man to whom things happened. I wanted him to be a blunt instrument when I was casting around for a name for my protagonist. I thought, by God, James Bond is the dullest name I've ever heard.

That's so picked it, because it's based on the bird watching man. There's no funny that like initially, what he thought was Bond would be a really dull character in this wild world around him. It's such a cool name now. But like if you're writing a spy though, there were some gonna have spy skills,

which are not dull at all. Yeah, it's a weird thing. It just, I guess he just thought he'd be sort of... But if you were to blend in though, you'd want a boring name. Sure. But if your name is like, is there any on a top? Sure. Well, he gave an example.

I wanted the simplest, dullest, plainer sounding name I could find. James Bond was much better than something more interesting, like Peregrine Carothers. That's named after two more birds. Yeah, yeah. The carothers. What a great example. The name's carothers. Peregrine.

Carothers. I'm sorry sir, it says Ian Fleming. Ian Fleming. I'm really going to have to hold you to this. So sorry. Anyway, you're off on the first teen five minutes please. Just get out of here. Just get out of here. Just get out of here.

You're Caddy's waiting. I said exotic things would happen to and around him, but he would be a neutral figure. Not to mention erotic. Oh. Erotic things that happen just around him. He would be just lying in the bed. Oh, this is pretty good. Just a kind of neutral.

Cool. Just trying to blend into the sheet. He's wearing a beige suit. Just, you can see his eyes moving. Oh, yeah. Perigant, her other likes this. He still calls himself that. Yeah, that's a little sexy, neat man.

Perigant, girl. When, when he finished his manuscript for Casino Royale, he took it to his friend William Ploma, who worked in publishing, and Ploma loved it, and he submitted it to a publisher named Jonathan Cape. And Cape wasn't into it at all, really and and it took him a lot of convincing before he eventually did agree to publish it so it was turned around but I like this because he was in the end he was convinced to publish it based on the recommendation of Peter Fleming, he insolved a brother who was a respected travel writer so, he's got no real.

Probably in the bone. Yeah, but it's funny because it's like, do me a favor. You're a travel rider. Yeah. This is a spine novel. What do you know? And it's your brother. It's your brother. There's so much in that. There's like, that can't be convincing. Yeah. It's Ernest Hemingway going, you should do this. I'm a world famous, very, very good rider. I don't know this guy, but I love what he's done.

Yeah. So this is my brother, and one time I went to Barbados and Four stars and I'm super biased and yeah, what are you reckon? Oh, I'm convinced We so you guys obviously Bond fans so you'll possibly know this so I can Dave knows all these sort of weird trivia things and you'll understand that I'm sort of it's it's not the obvious answer and ask the question Do you know who was the first person a portray bond on screen? Oh, as in like wait, is this a trick question? It is a bit of a trick question.

And if it was it wasn't the film? It wasn't an official video in production. It's pre, they hadn't even been put together at this stage. It was in 1954. Did it sell as something like that? Did a comedy version? No, that did happen that was later on. But it was the first version of Cassena Royale.

The one you were talking about the second one I'll talk about in a little bit. But I thought I always just thought it was Sean Connery till I was reading about it. I was wrong, obviously. I've written here, I was wrong. Dead wrong, some reason. Some of these reports are right quite late at night and It's like a little note to yourself. Yeah, man. You were dead wrong when you thought that thought you fucking idiot

But don't get back to your laptop and do the work in early 1954 Fleming was paid $1,000 for the television rights for casino royale Fleming was paid $1,000 for the television rights for Casino Royale and the novel was adapted in a TV special for CBS as an episode of the climax exclamation mark mystery theater. Sorry, it's climax. Oh sorry, thank you. I, she's like, always fuck that up. Come on. It was a low budget black and white episode, obviously it was color TV even was a different time. I was different time

Supertime a good year. Good year. I missed a few. I missed a few sorry And it started American actor Barry Nelson Barry Nelson is like the least sexy name ever Barry Barry Nelson Barry Nelson Barry Nelson. Barry Nelson. Barry Nelson. Barry Nelson. Yeah. Is that a no? Nelson. Barry Nelson. So which one's your first name? Is it Nelson or Barry? Because... both are awful. Get out of here. It says Ian Fleming. I don't know how many times I have to tap this license. But he's also an American which is

interesting. Yeah. So apparently Barry played Bond very casually and despite several laughing, this is something I'm reading this directly for, despite several laughable fighting and torture scenes. The episode. That torture scene was hilarious. The episode was an interesting and enjoyable rendition of Casina Royale. Okay. Speaking is hard. Wow.

I will be enjoying the hilarious torture. Yeah, do you guys know about how many Bond books Fleming wrote or anything like that? No. These are things I didn't know as well because the books are still being written in the Bond series and Fleming's been dead for quite a while But all the ones he wrote I've heard of I've heard of them all right, so he wrote 12 or he had 12 Should we try and name them? Oh, yeah, okay, so we had the Fleming wrote 12 Bond novels and two collections of short stories

And they were released yearly every year apparently he went to his property and he wrote, but January Ferry, he wrote one every year sort of thing. So his property gold and I? Yes, it is. That's so cool, isn't it? What is called, but his property is called gold, isn't it? Yeah. And they name the movie that.

That's right, there's such a cool name, but I'd love to have a house big enough that I could name. Yeah. I, there's a house, there's a big big name. I reckon any of you may be called Graham Manor. Graham? Graham? Or Graham?

What are you gonna call it? Graham. Graham Manor. I'm gonna call my house Gary House. Gary. Not even Gary House. Gary House. Gary House.

Gary House. There's another one nearby that's called Jessica and I was like, well, is that... Jessica, I've reckon I've seen a boat named Jessica. Jessica, I think a boat named. I think a boat named. Do you reckon that's enough for me to just go over to somebody, to just go over that house and be like, I live here now? Yeah, this is Jessica.

Everybody's fuck off. Oh, I'm pretty sure that the law would become down well on your side. Yeah, maybe. I'll give you, you can guess until you get on wrong, otherwise it could get super tedious. But so there's 12 and that in does include 12 plus two short story collections. Casino Royale, as you've mentioned. Dr. No. Yes.

Gold finger. Yes. Moonraker. Yes. From Russia with love. He's checking the list. Yes. On her Majesty's Secret checking the list. Yes.

On her majesty's secret service. Fuck. Yes. Thunderball. Yes. The spy who loved me. Yes. What about...

Dima's up for river? Yes. Oh, we got two to go, yes, this is alright. Oh my god, Dave, you've done all this. I'm not sure which one to miss, dammit. I'm worried about the later ones. Like I don't, I'm not sure. I think that's that right later on. I'm not sure about quantum of saltace, I think that's one. Yeah, fuck it right at the end.

What was it to? So I'm not exactly sure, but did you say live and let die? No. And did you say the man with the golden gun? No, no. And you should have known that because you're the man with the golden tonsils. Exactly. And then that was so well-visited.

That was a... I can't believe it. Like I just... And you should have known that because you're the man with the golden tonsils. Oh, exactly. Ah, we did so well, Voday. That was a... I can't believe I just... I guess it was my... I reckon it's a parents thing, your parents get you into it? Must've, yeah. On my granddad's shelf. So my granddad, I've talked about, before, had about 4,000 books of library.

Yeah, he's a big reader. He had the James Bond, like he was like an anthology of all... And I'd started watching them young, but then I was too young to read it. And maybe you've got five of those who were part of this. Right, that's cool. And I've got that book now. I still haven't read it, but it's just like,

it means a lot just having it on the shelf because I used to just every year go, there at Christmas and I'd be like, we're gonna read that one day and I will. One day. That's great. That's really sweet, Dave. The sweet memory. Thank you. You did so, I'm so impressed I was so good. It's funny because I I don't like I just don't I'd my parents or no one got me into it

So I just never really been into it and the ones I saw I'm just like it's so boring And they all seem the same like I just don't get it necessarily But I've heard of all of those yeah somehow somehow I've just know all those names And it's crazy that they're all hit movies or on some level as well. Um and then the two short story volumes I don't know if you'd heard of these for your eyes only. Oh yeah. That's another movie title. And also Octopus-y and the Living Daylights. I didn't know Octopus was the name of it. There's a movie called Octopus-y, yeah. Oh was it was a movie called Octopus-y? Yeah. I thought it was just the character. That's called Octopus-y. It's called Octopus-y. Oh yeah, of course it is too actually. I didn't know Dr. Pussy. I thought that was just the character. That's called Dr. Pussy.

Oh yeah, of course it is too, actually I didn't know that. Damn it. The last. Which is like such a great movie. So good. The last two, the man with the golden gun and Dr. Pussy and the living Dalits were released posthumously. Oh, okay. But he actually wrote those. But he did write them. Yeah. And there's been multiple writers who've gone on to continue that series. I haven't really focused on that at all because it was plenty of stuff without that with just his series and then the movie releases. In the late 1950s film producer Albert are broccoli. Yep. I've never heard of it. I'm still on every title that's like yes broccoli. That's so funny. What's his daughter's

name? Yeah because she does it. Is she just a music or is she a producer? Yes, that's right. They've passed it on. The two guys passed it on to you. Barbra Broccoli. Barbara Broccoli. Is it Barbara? I'm pretty sure. Nice one. I've never heard of that. I thought you guys were going to love it, but you don't. You don't enjoy any of the silly neighbors. I love it every time I watch a bond movie.

It always comes out pretty. And they of, oh what I broccoli still. His nickname, Albert, he was nickname, Cubby. Cubby. Cubby broccoli. Oh I like that. Cubby's a great nickname. He has a sweet nickname. Cubby.

Ah that's cute. He had a meeting set up with Fleming in the late 50s to try and secure the film rights because he loved it and he wanted to get, he wanted to make Bond into a movie series or at least a movie to start with. But unfortunately I have to miss the meeting as his wife had just been diagnosed with cancer. Which obviously is a pretty good excuse. In his absence, his business partner Irvin Irving Allen attended the meeting, but Allen wasn't into this series at all. I mean, it's like, no, shit, shit. And Elvin's like, what have you done? What have you done, people?

This is a quote attributed to him. Apparently, he said to Fleming, in my opinion, these books are not even good enough for television. Why don't go to the meeting then? Sure, yeah, that doesn't make sense to me. I reckon that's, I've got some confusion there. But apparently, that's a comment that he said somewhere. But why would you go to the meeting and say that you'd go to the meeting go. Oh, what do you think? What are your thoughts possible?

Anyway, what a fucking idiot a couple of years later in 1961 broccoli Parted ways with Alan which feels like a Good-honey and he hooked up with another producer named Harry Soltzman Soltzman you heard of him no So this guy apparently is pretty important. I don't think so. With Saltman. So Saltman already had started, he'd basically figured out a deal to make it happen.

And then partnered with Broccoli, and then they finally got their dream going and got the movie rights to the Fleaming series with the exception of Kisina Royale which had been sold for $1,000. So yeah so everything else that from then on all new books would be in that deal. So that stage Sultzman and Broccoli formed Eon Productions and they started working towards making the first film. They struggled to find funding from multiple Hollywood studios that they approached and were given reasons such as it was too British and also too blatantly sexual, which in my mind is the same thing. You write that down? I enjoy that. That's good. I wrote it down.

You wrote it down. You wrote it down. A little bit of flair there, mate. You're riffin'. That's a, like, it's a pre-written riff. They're sexy, those brits. Them sexy brits. I love the English accent.

Oh yeah, big time. After much hustling, the pair eventually signed a deal with United Artists who agreed to fund and distribute seven films, giving it and they gave them a million dollars to make the first one. Seven's a lot. That's a big deal for the first part of the bat. Just to agree to seven.

You're struggling to get anyone to take you seriously and then, hey mate, you have seven. But I think often, often those deals work like that. They go, they want to sign it. They're not signing it like, we'll just give it going to sign you for one. And then if it's a success, you can sign to someone else. They need all those deals to be longer. And often they just won't go past the first movie for the files.

We didn't really have money, sorry. Yeah, we're not guaranteeing we're going to fund the next ones, but you're giving us the, we're going to work and put, I think that's how it works. Yeah, that doesn't make sense. But they did give them a million bucks to make the first one, which was a decent amount of money at the stage. Huge. Yeah.

According to a Vanity Fair article, after an arduous and seemingly fruitless search defined a lead actor, who was mutually agreeable to the two producers and their studio benefactor, United Artists, Broccoli went back to one of the lesser knowns among the candidates, Sean Connery. Who? So he was basically unknown at that stage. He'd done some small roles. And to confirm his hunch that this tall handsome Scotsman could be the guy, Broccoli, while in Hollywood arranges for his new wife Dana to join him at a screening room at the Samuel Goldman

studio. What do you just seduce my wife? Are you successful? You've got the role. No, well Connery wasn't there but they they organized to meet there and his wife watched this movie and the only Connery movie who get was this movie was in called Darby O'Gill and the Little People and apparently pretty, pretty not great movie. It was in like pretty bad or pretty offensive just with little people. Probably both, so the answer was the 50s. It's called my Bitcoin Conde, yeah.

I think everything was offensive back then. And Dana Broccoli's response was instantaneously, that's our bond. She stood up in the movie. Sit down. Sit down. It's a private screening. Who's saying that?

Albert. It's the Asha. Sit down, Daniel. I know. You've paid for the seat not for the air above it. There are people like that, I reckon, who are just like, that rules are rules. I don't care.

This is a private screening. You get no fucking... Until you're done! You've had it for three hours. I'm handcuffed and you do the same. Now the first novel they chose to take the big screen wasn't obviously the first one, because that was not, they didn't have the right sort, but it wasn't even the second or the third or the fourth.

It was the sixth novel. Doctor No. Which is interesting right that they, yeah they didn't go chronologically. But with the novels, I don't know the storyline so much, was there much of it an arc throughout the early novels or was it really self-enclosed stories? Like I say, haven't read those grandad, but it's all about the show. Right, you're more familiar with the movies. But from the movies they sort of, I think they... Chop and change a bit, yeah.

Because he gets older and then suddenly he's a new actor and then it's factored shown kind of... I think there are some reboots and that sort of stuff. But I think normally there, it's almost like it's... At least in the more recent one, it's like... They'll reboot with a new actor and that's a new arc. But not necessarily in the past, I'm not 100% sure about that. Um... The...

Crittal... That's not how you say that word. Though the critical response was mixed, Doctano was a huge hit. It took nearly 60 million at the box office. From that budget of about 1 million boxers. Wow. It's a good return.

It's a pretty angry return. Was that return Dave? 60 times. What? Interesting. He's so good. That is's a pretty angry return. Was that returned Dave? 60 times. What? Interesting. He's so good. That is going to sound like I added out some thinking time there.

I did not. No. He just stood that fast. In fact, it does have calculations. Yep. It's actually 59.9. Whoa. Recauring.

Thank you. Again, nothing time. Do you remember who co-starred in the movie as Honey Rider? Doctor No, who's Honey? Her name's Ursula. Oh, Andress. And she swiss? Sure.

And in 2003, the scene of Andress emerging from the water in a bikini. So good. Apparently, it's an iconic scene and it topped Channel 4 in England's list of the hundred sexiest scenes of film history. Wow. And that bikini was sold in 2001 at an auction for... What do you reckon? $2 million.

No, $100,000. No, 61 and a half. Still a crazy amount for a bikini I would have thought. But see, whenever we ask that question, it still has way higher than that. And that sounds disappointing. I only 60 grand, I'd pay that for a bikini big time. And they parody that scene with Daniel Craig in one of his first videos.

He's getting out of the water and little blue trunks. Yeah, that's a fun idea. That's more of the modern time sort of stuff. Well, exactly. And the other thing is, if I may, just talking about him and his little trunks. You go back to, like, because it also, the films are also a representation of like,

what's sexy in a man, or what's like, the idea of a man at the time. So if you look at like Sean Connery, he's like got really hairy chest and he's, like, he's fit but he's kind of stocky and then you go to like, Daniel Craig now, and there's like not a but he's kind of stocky and then you go to like Daniel Craig now and there's like not a hair on his body. And ripped. It's like you're describing me. Which one? The hairless part. That's about it.

And after the release of the film The Sales of all of Fleming's Novels Rose Sharply and in the seven months after Dr. No was released 1.5 million copies of the novel was sold Oh man, it paid for good on Ian. It's funny when like it's just like everything in your business is good Like it's like I've just made some money selling this my rights to the film but it also it helps with my book You probably I don't I wonder if you've even considered that at the time. I don't know Connery started a further four bond films with from Russia with love gold finger thunderball and you only live twice Favorite bond song hold hold that up. I want to ask you about because I found a list ranked ranking all the songs I want to know what your favorites are and I want to see how that compares, because my favorite is

they're saying there is the worst. Great. Great. Oh, interesting to hear. It's a little bit of sizzle for later in the episode. The Duran Duran. Is it a Duran Duran? Is it?

There is a Duran Duran. I don't actually know that many of them. I might when you say them. Anyway. So, yeah, so Connery did five movies altogether And they all have like the problem with this topic is there's so many movies and they've all got interesting stories But I just don't have time to go into most of them. So I'm gonna have to keep sort of moving There enough in the mid-60s American producer Charles K. Feldman bought the film right six-cento Royal

Next is American producer Charles K. Feldman bought the film right succino royal. He tried to have it made as part of the official series of Bond films, but when he failed he decided to turn it into a James Bond spoof instead and released it two months before you only live twice. What a dick move. So there's a spoiler alert if anyone wants to go out and see the spoof. Maybe fast forward the next 24 seconds, or I just briefly go through it. He would say the next 24 minutes. I was like, ugh.

In the film, David Niven, who Dave's mentioned on a pre-shoot. Oh, yes, he was on one of the Monties. And he was also in the Pimp Panther guy. Oh, yeah. So he plays a retired 007, and his old boss, M, dies in an explosion. So Niven's bond reluctantly goes back to the spy agency and he takes over M's role and then decides to rename all of

his agents to James Bond to confuse the enemy so in the movie it ends up being David Niven Terrence Cooper Woody Allen Joina Patlett Patta Dahlie, Peter Sellers, and Ursula Andress are all end up being named James Bond. Oh, that's pretty funny. So it's a spoof, it's kind of like a, it's one of the, I'd almost call it a romp. I'm not sure if that'd be right, but that's what I'd almost call it. You'd almost call it a romp. Almost.

You'd call it a romp. Rom, I'd call it a romp. It's a romp. Film critic Roger Ebert said, this is possibly the most indulgent film ever made. But it was a box office success actually. Really? Turning its $12 million budget into over $40 million

at the box office. So not a huge success, but it made its money back and then some. Wow. 3.3 times. I know that that is a bit dicey because that doesn't take any consideration advertising and other costs, but also probably DVD sales. Yeah.

I was going to I was going to ask you, yeah, but how many DVDs are you saying? So like I was going to we are just one brain. One after Connery's retirement the search was on to find the next bond. Do you I'm imagining you guys know who it was. I was Australian. It was the Australian. So, I read two different things. He was either spotted in a chocolate commercial on TV, or he was spotted by the producers

at the barberskin in his haircut. Eating a chocolate. But he was either way. Chocolate was his own. There was definitely chocolate. I told I remember. So, it was Australian model at George Laisenby who was the highest paid model in the world at the time. I know that he was already successful.

I don't think he's that good looking. But I think it was like he said it's different times. Different times. That's funny how. We are a product of society. He's just like a big guy. Yeah, I reckon he looks kind of like in that bond world. Like when you see him or wind up, you can see the... Yeah, yeah, but you would definitely be sure on over here, right? And this was the worst bond movie. Well, yeah, I mean, with all of this I've found that no one's 100% sure on anything. There are always big fans of the ones that are generally hated, so...

But because I don't, I just don't particularly like any of them, I don't know. Well I mean I haven't seen the majority of them, but I just remember being younger, just being a bit bored by them, what's the point? Although I did enjoy Austin Powers as a child. Okay, so you had terrible taste, do you? I've seen them since as an adult, Austin Powers hasn't aged well. No, it's fun.

It's fun. The last one is no good. Oh actually I haven't seen the last one. It's all a big roast for fun. The first one. The first one I haven't seen in a long time, but I remember really enjoying it. And I have no interest in rewatching. I think that's probably for the best. It often is. I'm gonna spring it on you one day. You'll be like, oh great. David, I'd love to come over and watch the new James Bond movie and then I would hang up you to a chair just like that lady was. Terrible.

And then I'd put on Austin Powers. That sounds terrible. Why would you hang up a friend to a chair you monster? Well, why would you refuse to watch Austin Powers? I think the majority of people would be on my side of this. I think you sound very creepy. Lazymey with our... Don't move on Matt.

I'm not ready until I hear Jess explain global warming. Okay, here's the thing about global warming. It's sometimes it's hot. Sometimes it's hot. It's hot right now. Other times real cold. What that's what I'm saying. I think you're what you're talking about is seasons. Oh, are they not the same? No. Hmm. So, Lazenbee was recently back in Australia. And I really enjoyed how he described how he's sort of a scent into the role of Bond,

how it went. It just sounds so effortless. So, in Australia, he's working various jobs. Couldn't really hold down a job, I guess. And he was working as a mechanic and different things like that. Sush model. And then he said, he fell in love with a beautiful model, and then he said, he fell in love with

a beautiful woman who was way out of my class and she went on to England, so I told my boss, I'm going to England. And then when he went over, he couldn't find her, so he hung out in London and sold cars at Mercedes-Benz and happened to meet a photographer somehow which brought him into the modeling world and then from the modeling world I went into film. Oh, is that all? I think he is amazing. Also, you follow somebody on the other side of the world, you don't know where they live.

Yeah, I'm going to England, all there in England, it's a little country. Yeah, I'll just follow that person back to Australia. Okay. Where are you going to go? You're going to Sydney, they could be in Melbourne. You're going to Melbourne, they could be in Perth. follow that person back to Australia. Okay, where are you gonna go? You're gonna Sydney, they could be in Melbourne. You're gonna Melbourne, they could be in Perth. You're gonna Perth.

Well, it could be anywhere, they could be in Subiaco. Let's list everywhere they could be. Subiaco, very close to Perth. I wish I had control of the Fager guys down sometimes. Okay, Matt, that seems a little unfair, but do you? Well, I could have just faded you down and you would have listed Western Australian places. Is this going to be more fun? I would have got through some bomb stuff and then faded you back up and you're still going

I clam on. We got the Swan River. Is this going to be fun for you then? I just keep going with your report and we just don't pop in at all. Is that going to be fun for you? Is that going to be fun for the listeners? No. Okay, well off you go.

Off you go. So this is from an interview in the Australian paper this morning, Harold. Layson B scored the coveted role of the secret agent 007 despite having no real prior acting experience. He said that when film produces Albert Broccoli and Harry Sultzman demanded Layson B return the next day after a successful casting call, he said he didn't like their attitude. Very demanding. I'll come back to the next day. So he goes, so I told them I couldn't be there that I'd be in Paris for a film, which I wasn't, and they asked how much I was being paid.

When I told them I was being paid 500 pounds a day, which I wasn't, they said, go down to the accountant, he'll give you the money be here tomorrow the actor and he was like alright well i was really just gonna sleep in and probably order a pizza but uh... five hundred pounds of working off fly back the actor said that but he probably wasn't in the

he wasn't even passed it's down the road i guess the actor said that when director peter hunt learned of the rules he belly laughed and offered him the role on the spot. He loved it. He loved him being a bit of a... And offered him double the money on the spot. That's right, if I weren't that, I'd be like, you sound like you're going to be too much work.

Yeah, could you have been a trouble? Lazymey didn't sign a contract and the negotiation straged on during the production and the film. Lazymey recalled, my agent said, it's about love, not war right now. the production and the film. Lesimbi recalled, My agent said, it's about love, not war right now. James Bond is the opposite. He said it was gonna be, he said it was gonna die,

and that's why Connery gave it up. He told me I could make that kind of money doing movies in Italy. Clint Eastwood was getting 500,000 doing Westerns in Italy. He didn't even have to speak. That's one of his logic there. Laisenbe said that he took the advice and refused to sign a seven movie contract that was offered to him, reportedly worth a million dollars.

There's an element of me that thinks I should have done two Bond films to prove they didn't get rid of me, he said. On the other hand, I wouldn't have had the laugh I've had. You're going to really enjoy this day, I think. He goes, I've got two, I've got beautiful kids, which I may not have ever had if I continued with Bond. Instead, I was bonding with my children. Wow, I appreciate that.

He's bonding a different way. I'm going to see how long just will be safe, so I don't think she can do it much longer. I'm calling her BUFF. Don't make me apologize. just will be say someone I don't think she can do it much longer. I'm calling her buff. Don't make me apologize. Has to take bobs, pluff. Bluff, pluff. Yes, you can talk to me. You just can't talk to me. I'll pass on any messages you want. I'll turn down your microphone and his headphones over there. He can't hear you.

On her Majesty's Secret Service was George Lazenby's first and last appearance in the Bond series. Although in lady years he did play Bond-like characters in several TV spoofs. So what do you think about that move? I think Jess said that was one of the worst ones. Yeah, I don't, it's not fun. Isn't it? Cause I've read some people say that it's quite good when others say it's not. Apparently he's a bit more like, maybe he was a bit more like what Fleming originally was talking about. The blunt instrument sort of guy. I think it is hard to put someone play one bond.

Because when I saw one Daniel Craig was cast, I was like, this is the worst. I hate this. Yeah. And I was watching Casena Raeal at the cinema. I got him with my dad every time to see the new movie. And I was like, I guess that was fun. That opening, great, right? By the end of the movie, I was like I guess that was fun that opening great wait wait by the end of the movie I was like he's the best bonnet like when

he first got cast I would have been on I'm not a forum type guy but if I was I'd be on there going this guy sucks how can a blonde dude be James Bond what the fuck oh man I mentioned people like you later on yeah but like that was my feeling but he's he's great so but maybe it would have taken a bit more with George Laisen as I'm saying it's hard to watch one movie Yes, I think that's what we imagine the mistakes one like I think I was like basically his first movie as well Apparently he's acting like can you imagine that he's hardly done any acting before? I believe he was quite impressive for his relative in experience. Yeah He lucked his way into a car as a car salesman.

Jess is really struggling, I think I've got a... Wait, look, how about we... How about I apologise? I can't even remember what I said. Me either. But I'm sorry. Okay, I forgive you. I just wanted to... Because the thing with the Lays and Be film, it goes back to what I was...

Because back to what I... What we learnt in uni when we were studying the films. Oh, here we go, a bit of an analysis here. Well, it is because James Bond as a character is like this indestructible person, right? Like he can't die and he like bounces back from everything and nothing phases him and he's like a robot. This episode is brought to you by Progressive. Most of you aren't just listening right now. You're driving, cleaning, and even exercising.

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I can't, he definitely gets married to Sean Connery. Really? Yeah, and the girl gets poisoned. I can't help you. OK, yeah, well, I'm pretty, OK, well, it's a similar sort of thing in that there's a car accident as they're leaving their wedding, and she's killed, and he's a total wreck.

Right. The reason that people didn't like it as much is because he was a human. It's too real. It's too real. It's like, no, James Bond is indestructible. So even in the later ones, with... Like, Roger Moore is the most unhuman.

Right. I'm having a great time. Yeah. And Roger Moore. Daniel Craig, spoiler alert, sorry, but he loses Vespelind, and he's torn up about it, but he goes robot and doesn't deal with his feelings and just gets on with his life, where it's LAYZENBIE was like, WHY?!

Everyone's like, oh, yeah, we don't like this character. That's interesting, which is weird. Very weird. So after Lazy Mbretired from the series, I'll be quiet again now. Please don't. After you retired from the series, American John Gavin was signed to play the role in Diamonds or Forever. Really? Diamonds or Forever?

I should say, Lazy Mbretkens that Diamonds are forever. I should say, uh, ladies and b-reckons that, um, he, he, he, rumors with, he, he feels that rumors were spread about him after quitting the movies that he was hard to work with and that sort of stuff. Other people say it was hard to work with, but he says that, um, rumors were spread and it made it very hard for him to find work afterwards. He sounds like a bit of a diva. Um, yeah, I mean, that's, that's one of the rumors, but I mean I I feel like there's always two sides and I I don't know for sure, but obviously don't know anything for sure. But yeah this American guy John Gavin, I'm like I'd never heard of this guy, but he he signed on to replace Lesimbi.

Amazing as well that Lesimbi was offered such a long contract. How many? I think it was seven. Yeah crazy. And then he did one, I was like, nah. He's like, he never even signed it. He did, yeah, he just did one and went. Did you get paid? Yeah, you got paid for the movie. He still get paid. He didn't sign the contract.

Yeah. So, yeah, so if you heard of this John Gavin guy. No. So, and you know the film diamonds are forever. You'll probably know what I'm about to say. The head of, you know, at artists wanted to bring back Sean Connery at any cost. He's like, not sure about this John Gavin guy. We need a sure thing like Sean Connery.

Connery wasn't keen, but eventually he agreed to do one last film, getting paid a huge $1.25 million. Ooh. Remember, Lasambi was offered a million for seven. And that was a base salary plus an estimated 12.5% of the profits. So just a super sweet deal. So the money plus the profits. Yeah. 12.5% of profits. That's huge. And Connery accepted that and ended up, he donated that to charity. Sean Connery, you didn't get that from Lays and Me?

And he was, I believe, offered the role of Gandalf before Ian McKellen. Really? No, I see, I like Ian McKellen. I think he got the script and was like, I don't understand this. Even though, and I think they offered him like, I don't know. Connery already retouched. Like, the 5% of the entire gross.

What? It turns out that he would have made hundreds of millions of dollars Yeah, but he's pretty much I reckon he's pretty much given away acting. Yeah, yeah Yeah, I've seen these 80s now that has no need for me. Kellen has that gentleness Yeah, but this is you know, 15 years ago. I'm something about him I think he's right for the role, but you know, you say that with everyone don't you but you know I mean probably sure can we probably do a great job good on You say that with everyone, don't you? Probably sure, Connor, you probably want another great job. Good on him.

After Diamonds are forever, Connery retired from the Aeon Bond film franchise for Real Zies. He's out now. He's done. Dunzies. Or is he? No, he is Dave. That's what he said for Real Zies. Come on Dave.

That is his last. He'll never be James Bond again. He'll never be James Bond again. Is that what you're saying? Yep. I'll just come on Dave. I'll show you. That is his last. He'll never be James Bond again. He'll never be James Bond again. Is that what you're saying? Yep. Okay. Okay.

Well, what I actually said was he would never be in an Aeon Bond film again. So again, the hunt for a new Bond was on and there was a... The hunt for Red October. There was a push for the... That was for the... Yeah. I think that was her point, Dave. There was a push for the American John Gavin to get the gig.

I've even heard of the film The Hunter of October because it's great. And I can't really remember, but I think Sean Conry may have had something to do with it. I think that's true. I think you're right. Yeah, I think he was in it. So did I say John Gavin or he was paid out and full for his contract, you know, even though he was bumped off the moon? Really?

Yeah. So they didn't fully fuck him, I really think. Oh, that's kind of nice. But he was put forward again. There were some people I mean they They fucked him. Well, I reckon they did they pulled him off a film that they offered to him and he'd signed up on Yeah, they paid him. Yeah, but they paid him so I guess I guess getting paid for not doing any works kind of Not a bad I would be James one tomorrow if I didn't have to be in a movie

I could be with that but would you say no to that? Yes, though, so you can be James Bond tomorrow if I didn't have to be in a movie I agree with that, but would you say no to that? Yes, though? So you can be James Bond. You don't have to be in a film. I'll just give you a million dollars. I'd be like yeah, right? Yeah, I suppose. Where do I sign? Hey, let me check my sketch. Yeah, I'm free. I don't have time to sign a contract So again, they were some were keen to have John Gavin on the following film after Bond after Conor E said he was it was done John Gavin on the following film after Conor E said he was it was done. So it's kind of like in stand-up when somebody's really bad So then you put on a good act after them to try and pick it back up Is that what they've kind of done like ladies and b wasn't great? So they're like put Conor E back into lift it get it back. I guess that was probably part of it But I think also that but they were at the same time they were super keen to get ladies and be locked in for seven movies

So they're not they're not actually thinking that he was crap. They wanted him long term. But I think they didn't want to start making it chopping around a new guy, another new guy. I don't think that works as well. So they wanted to sort of steady the ship with it with an existing guy. The audience was familiar with I assume that's what the but Harry Salzman was insisted on the role being filled by a British actor so he said no good for John Gavin who was an American and that's how Roger Moore got the gig as the next bond. He's older than Sean Connery. Yeah I hate Roger Moore. Is that weird? It is potentially weird. I don't like the Roger Moore one.

Maybe he's like, you know, in his, maybe 40s when he's first playing through the line. I might as well give you just, I mean, if you let me talk at all, I will say facts like that. Fair enough. Maw's portrayal of Bond was much different to the character in Flaming's novels with it, it was a bit more comical, bit sillier.

But he's also been voted, he was in one to vote by the Academy Awards apparently, he got more than 50% of the voters the best bond ever. Wow! Which was surprising me, I would have thought that that would always go to Connery. Obviously not, again I don't understand this world at all. More is the longest serving James Bond, he made seven of the E on produced Bond films in a row, Living Let Die, The Man with the Golden Gun, The Smily Love Me, Moon Raker, for your eyes.

Yeah, he's like, oh wait. For your eyes only, Octopussy, and... Never heard of such a thing. Look at that, Octopussy. Wait, how do you say? Octopussy. Octopussy. Octopussy. I love it getting made fun of my Bond nerds. No, he said it wrong. Octopussy. Octopussy. Octopussy. Octopussy. I love it getting made fun of my bonnards. He said it wrong. What a loser.

I mean it's a ridiculous word to begin with but Octopussy. It's fine. It's fine. Is it fine? Oh my god. I'm trying to back you up here. And a view to kill. A view to a kill. Was his final one. He's also the oldest actor to have played Bond He's starting the role as a 45 year old 45. Yeah, and played him all the way up to being 58 in a view to kill Jesus, you're like a sex symbol. No, I disagree. He's a good-looking man No, yeah, even when he's young come on You don't think he's hot Yeah, I thought I would have thought that would will obviously

Just is vomiting on the ground well, I'm taking that as some sort of an indication. I'm not cleaning that up Dave Fine, well Roger more really gets my octopussy girl. That's all I'm saying up Dave. Fine. Well Roger more really gets my octopusy girl. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. I was about to explore what that meant. I'm going to backtrack a little bit now. In the early 60s, before Eon was set up, Fleming worked on a script for a Bond film with an independent producer named Kevin McClaury and script writer Jack Wittingham. Also good. named Kevin McClaury and script writer Jack Wittingham. Also good. The project was eventually abandoned, but Fleming used much of the script in his novel Thundable. Thundable.

Only he gave no writing credit to McClaury or winning him. He fucking dogged him. No. I actually wrote he bloody dogged him, but I took it up a notch. Interesting. That's how strong you feel about this. It's the creative release. When you flick the mic on, you just never know what you're going to get for me.

I'm a wild dog. I always say that about you. So Matt Stewart, what's he like? Bloody wild dog with the marks on. Mate, chase Louise. Wild cat with the marks off. What if it was that anything? McClaury went on.

He had small animals in the wilderness. McClaury went under the soup Fleming in a copyright claim. He was successful and in the settlement deal McClaury scored a production credit on the Eon film adaptation of Thunderball. Great, it's already been to the movies so no one saw your name mate so what a loss. No that's not true. The novel, the movie came out quite a long way up for you. Oh right so this is Aida. No no this is... You got so sassy there Dave. You did get a little sassy. I got to see his name, well I'm happy for him, I am.

We got to be a producer and a... ...beer thing. That's great. Was he an ass prod? He... No, no, full prod. Oh. Yeah. Live in Dream Day.

Live in Dream Day, mate. We had to go into the beer to be a full prod. But that wasn't the big one. I mean, that was big, but the bigger, probably, the bigger thing was that he also got the right to produce a different film based on that story, but he had to wait at least a 10-year period. That was the deal.

Uh-huh. He did a deal, which he did. And that film was called Never Again. Thunderpants. They never again. I thought it was Thunderpants. It starts with a repart. Thunderpants.

It's, it's actually a movie. Yep. Good, he, wow, he's had a kid a Pat. It's... Is that actually a movie? Yep. Wow, he's had a... He's had a bit of a fourth one. The other two have done really well. No, we're still during the Harry Potter franchise. What's he done though? He's been in a movie called Thunderpants.

Thunderpants and he would say like, Thunderpants. He gets some Conan on one of those shows every now and then, doesn't he? And does... Oh no, that's Simon Pegg doing him. Hahaha. I love Simon Pegg. I love Simon Pegg. I love Simon Pegg. I love Simon Pegg. I love Simon Pegg.

I'm going to look confused there. Do you think that means he's curious still going well? Someone's parodying a character he used to play? Yes. I think so. So it's essentially, never say never again, is essentially a remake of Thunderball, obviously. But it's seen as an unofficial bon film,

which I find really interesting. It's like, it's not official unless it's an Eon film in the bon nerd's heads, you guys. I guess it's an issue. I would must say every time that there's a trivia question about James Bonnard, always right. We are, no, we are only counting official Eon productions. Right, great.

So McClaury got, have you guys guys seen Never say Never again? Yeah. I don't maybe not maybe yeah, you might be an Eon only top. Yeah, I'm a diehard. I mean because Sean Conner is it was to me. It seemed like a real movie. Mac well, okay, great. McClaury got Sean. He's a little spoil there for sure. Oh, sorry. You fucking idiot. You fucking idiot. McClaury got, it's funny, Jessica script actually says, you bloody idiot, but you fucking, you fucking idiot. McClaury got Sean Connery involved as a consultant for the project right up off the top.

And eventually, at 52 years of age, and despite having sworn, he he would never ever play Bond again was he got convinced to play the role of W7 in the movie. Oh, you surprised, but so surprised. There's like one more time, so this is, you know, quite a few years after he lasted and which I this I found really fun. The name of the film is actually a reference to Connery's vow to never play the role again. Oh, that's very good isn't it? Oh, I see, because he said no, no, no.

Is it a quip from his wife? So his wife actually suggested it, and she is acknowledged at the end of the credits, where it says, title never say never again, by Michelleine Connery. Really? That's's so I remember here Michelle in Michelle in Michelle in Michelin Michelin star. She is a star She's got the right hands because he said no I won't do it never Never I like is it bloody And just to me it sounds like a classic bond title. I just I just

Yeah, you only live twice never again. It was, yeah. You only lived twice, and ever say never again, it makes sense. Because I'm as off forever. Oh, wow. Because it was initially going to be called Thunderpants. And I think this was a much better suggestion. Thunderpants. It's terrible. You should check out the trailer.

It's really good. What a fool. Fleming's trustees continued to fight the release of this film in court But would you believe it not successful? But they couldn't because they got the right to make the movies. Yeah, they had the right So yeah, it was interesting. They were obviously working on a different Trying to find some sort of a hole in there Drinking the view offered Sean Connery now at 80 Whenever he is 84 years of age one billion dollars to play the role again.

You do wonder because I mean what what's money when you're 80 and you've got enough money Yeah, but I mean it's so unless you're like I'd love to have some money because I think there's some really good Things I can do all right. I'll donate all that money to then maybe you would think about if you could be like if you Just felt like you could humanly possibly humanly possibly oh boy the movie was directed by Irvin Kirschner familiar with him at all another good name. It's a great name but I don't know it's worth three years earlier he directed a little film called the Empire Strikes Back. Oh don't know it was it the prequel to the Emperor's New Groove?

Don't know it was that the prequel to the emperors new groove the Lama film. Yes, the Empire strikes back was the David Spade as a Lama. Was it that one? Yeah Very good as you were the film had mechic war put in is in that too very funny The film had mixed reviews, but was a financial success it grossed 160 million at the box office from a budget of 36 million which I went very close to the Official Eon bond release of the same year, which was Roger Moore's octo pussy Which gross around 180 million I genuinely don't know what I'm doing wrong there Nothing you're saying octopussy. Octopussy. Octopussy. Octopussy. Octopussy.

Like an octopus. Octopussy. Octopussy. Yeah, right. Octopussy. So say you say somebody was like that octopus, bit too octopus-y for me. Yeah, bit too octopus-y. There we go. Text by an octopus. Yeah, now I see what you're saying. It sucked me in. And Octopussy with an E at the end.

Correct. Octopussy. Yeah, right. There we go. Great. I like how I do it better. I was going to say I'm really disappointed if you have to say it again. Please don't listen to us. After more hung up the TuX Welsh actor Timothy Dalton became James Bond in the Living Day Lights in 1987 and licensed to kill in 1989. Welsh.

Yeah. There you go. He is seen as being more faithful to the original bond of Fleming's novels and despite only appearing in the two movies, he seems to be one of the more highly regarded bonds amongst fans. I don't know, how would you feel about that Dave? It's probably, I think of the... It's harder because he was only in two.

Yeah, less familiar with him than the others, but I've only seen the movies. I think of the Bond movies, because by the time I started watching them it was Pierce Brosman. So I've probably seen most of Pierce Brosman and Daniel Craig and then back to Sean Connery and sort of skipped a bunch of the middle tracks.

I don't think I've seen as much of Timothy Dalton. I suppose there's only two, but I can't remember them as clearly as I can, the more recent ones. So I don't know. I reckon we should do a poll or something of listeners favorite one, and we should watch it. So Betty C, you really, that higher-agata, because didn't sort of James Bond start

as sort of Peter out for a few years? Well, I mean, I'm only going off what I read apparently fans are right into his portrayal. Because the longest time between bonds changing actors is between him and Pierce and I thought it was because people are a bit over it like oh yeah, not the bond. And then it was time for like a recent job. And then Joel and I was like this is awesome. But I mean that's not necessarily that's timing more than his portrayal right. That's just bond fatigue potentially. Yeah, there was also he was meant to be doing a third one and maybe more But there was a long gap and he sort of lost patience or he's actually doing the one next year

Yeah, the thing in back. I'm talking about Dalton. Yeah, yeah There's been a 30-year gap, but he's back. He's back baby There you go. I don't understand what you guys are talking about. After Dalton, it was Pierce Brosnan's turn. He's the first one I can remember. He was born in 1995's Golden Eye. That's the one I saw. I was five when I stood up at the movies. That is so cute. Which is also... Looking back is wildly inappropriate. Like a five-year-old. Yeah, yeah. beyond this unfair to the other people in that cinema. No, well, it's also like I remember it more as a kid because it was a super popular video game. Yeah, same really played all the time. Yeah, I love playing it. Such a good, so good.

So good. So good. It was a 64 wasn't it? Yep. I remember playing it. He was also in 97's tomorrow and ever dies, which is cool name, and 99's the world is not enough and 2002's die another day. Which was Halle Berry in shocker. One of them had an invisible car which apparently was a bit silly It had like a really good section, but a lot of that movie was a bit too silly apart from Pistols First one I wouldn't bother watching the other day. Die another days with Madonna song, isn't it? Yeah, and they're like the South Korean guy with diamonds in his face. Yes! I remember him. Yeah. Cool.

Yeah that's a funny one. I thought that was cool. Who has a face swap? I'll our face off with Nicholas Kay to Donald Trump. Yeah, another great face. He swaps his face too from the South Korean dude to look like an English man. Oh, creepy.

As well as, Rosin's four roles in Bond. He also played the role of ultra house 3000 in the Simpsons Halloween special The Tree House of horror 12. So was it? Yeah. Yeah. Remember that one day when he was playing Hal. Yeah. Yeah. That was a fun episode. I remember that too. I've also watched the Simpsons. Thanks. I found different opinions on how good Brazlens was Bond. To me as a kid he was basically the only Bond I knew. So he was Bond. And I'm going to add that time I didn't even really, I wasn't aware that there were previous bonds, which is he was Bond. So I was kind of curious to hear what he thought about his time as Bond. So I found this interview with an English newspaper that asked him if he ever rewatches the

movies and it says in reply, he mocked shutters. I have no desire to watch myself as James Bond because it's just never good enough. He laughs mercilessly. It's a horrible feeling. Wow. So he's, I don't think he loves this. But he also, in that interview, he also talked about how he really appreciates the opportunity to do it.

I think he's been a bit self-deprecating as well, because he's like, that role gave him the opportunity to set up a production company, make a lot of movies of his own. Yeah. And, you know, a really... Oh, you know, before that, what has he been in? This is doubt fire. Which is great. But he was in... Which was great. He was in it he was great he was good yeah he was good he was in

different he was in a successful British TV show which I remember the name of yeah after Bros. and then we're up to the current man Daniel Craig so you're so you think Daniel Craig is a hot out of attractiveness I've got asked yes because you're not into Roger Moore who I thought was a pretty classically handsome guy Who's the hardest based on what Jess said before right? Modern women like Jess would be in the Daniel Craig right? That works as a general rule. Yeah, I think so yeah Daniel Craig's a babe Babe huge babe, but you yeah, who who would be the next closer?

Sean Connery Dave, what about you Sean Connery would he be your number one? Yeah, but that's good, but I think that mine is My attractive factor is definitely attractor more my attractor is definitely more based on how cool I think they are Very true and as a kid. I always thought I was watching the old ones and my dad and be like man This guy's so yeah, Sean Conor. I think it's cool. I think Daniel Craig is he's quite cold as well, but I love him is quite serious, right? Because you do get like Pierce Brosnan was a bit fun. He was a bit cheeky. I feel like Daniel Craig is a bit more serious. Okay. I'm looking at them all cheeky. I feel like Daniel Craig's a bit more serious. Okay, I'm looking at the more of... Pissed Brosums actually a bit of a babe too. Yeah, I think that I

reckon you could make an argument they're all babe. They're all babe. I kind of like their their stances also feel like they... Matt's showing us a picture. Yeah okay that's a good point. Yeah as you were talking about their stances. He's showing us a picture. So our continuity Dalton's is a punk. Yeah it's pretty strong. Yeah. But I quite like how our man ladies and be is standing. It's like it's kind of like a, isn't it? Very cash. Now I still, I think Daniel Craig in that one, he looks so like. Except because Daniel Craig, because in the photo, they've all got tiny guns except

Daniel Craig, who's standing. It's like an AK 47. AK 47 style machine gun in one hand, but in top open, no bow tie. All the others have got bow ties, like that. Most of them are holding their guns with two hands, like they're little pissy guns with two hands. Yeah, they're small and he's got the biggest gun he's holding in one hand. Yeah, that's hot.

So you love a man with a gun. I love a man. If I show you this picture again. I love a manly man. Jess, if I showed you this picture again, would you be surprised to know that only one of them is holding us two hands? Ha ha ha.

Well, was I wrong? I said most, didn't I? Which one is it? Is it, oh, hang on, I know, I know, I know, I know. It's Connery, is it it? It's Pierce. Fuck, fuck. Connery's holding his elbow.

Fuck. So is George. Anyway. A real man held his elbow and I always held my elbow. I respect that. That was a weird, we really needed a video footage for that little bit to work anyway. We'll upload the photo.

So after after Brosnan, we're up to Craig, right? Yes. His first film was Casino Royale, which obviously, a- A-Yon. It got back. Yeaheon got the right back. And it sounds like it was a kind of complicated deal that happened and there were court cases involved. Sony were trying to start their own bond series, I think,

because they had the rights to Sino Royale. And they wanted to make, because you know, be able to make spin-offs of that, because they sort of had the right to a bit. In the end, MGM, who MGM Goldmire or whatever, went up against them because they have the rights to the rest, via, with and on, and some complicated deal, or maybe not that complicated, but I'm not sure. In the end, the way it went was Sony had to pay MGM a 5 million because because of they lost that case. But in that deal somehow Sony sold the right to casino royale to MGM 4 10 million. So they made

5 million but lost the rights of the movie which it's not like they didn't weren't going to be able to do much with anyway. Yeah, okay. Because Sony's keen to make franchises. They want to make movies with spin-offs. Right. I mean, the scheme of things, $5 million, is nothing if you're making a 5 James Bond movie. Totally. Because they all, these days the budget's like 200 million plus. Insane. Yeah.

It's, yeah. It's, it's a jump change to them. I don't know if it's an, if it's a popular opinion, but I love Cassino Royale. I love it. That's a rip-off. I'm gonna, I'm gonna talk briefly about it now. So Cassino Royale, the Daniel Craig version was the third on screen portrayal of the novel Cassena Royale after the ones we talked about earlier the

955 black and white TV movie and also the 67 parody with Woody Allen It was also the first film to be based on a Fleming story since 1987's the Living Day Lights So now like most of the modern movies are just made for the film and some of them are novelised afterwards. But all these books that are being written by the new novels, they're not being turned into movies because they're interesting to me. So they probably just hire a screenwriter to think of a new story that they just exist in movie world now and they'll go back to being novelized by writer afterwards.

Yeah, sure. Which is sort of interesting. I'd kind of like why don't they base them on the novels that are still being written? Yeah, I don't know. There's so many to choose from. But obviously, they just doesn't have the same pool as a flaming story. And this film also marks a reboot of the series where Craig portrays a less experienced Bond. It's almost like going back to.

Yes, so it starts again. He gets his double-o at the start of the movie. Yeah, he earns his double-o. Yeah, and the opening is awesome. So good. But then, so cool. You're going to talk about the follow-up movie. I'm only in name. Because Quantum of Cellless is an absolutely disappointing story sucks. It's really short, it's not good. And I gave up and then...

Skyfall! Oh my god, Skyfall is so good. Possibly the best James Bond movie. Right, it's so good! Ralph Fines. Oh, he's great. Fuck me, he's so good. Have you seen Skyfall, Matt He's seen Skyfall? I don't know. Maddie, we have got a lot of fun. Which is the one where

someone's in it there in like a farm house. People really like that one and I fell asleep during a couple of weeks. No, I think you're thinking of Skyfall. Yeah, there's a scene in there and it was almost like a hostage. Not a hostage sort of. They're fighting out there. Yeah, that's Skyfall. They go to Skyfall. That's the one you reckon is good. Yes, I fell asleep Great. Yeah, but I was tired. That was great I'm here by the end of the best bag. And he bought some of his face. Oh my god. He is incredible Yeah, he's so spooky. There's that that first thing where he's introduced and it's just that really long shot of him

Just walking is one continuous shot. He gets closer and closer to this. Oh my God, so good. He talks about his mother's farm and rats on an island. Yeah, I think that's the movie. And you've seen Starfall. But I just, I don't think I saw it all because of Phil Sleep. But it's interesting, because I didn't, I'm like, oh, it's pretty good. But I think you've got, it feels like Star Wars.

You've got to have been into it as a kid. Maybe, yeah. And really, and there's some nostalgia with every time you say it I reckon I saw skyfall of the movies three times and I've never do that with film I never go to the movies We may be go twice a year yeah, so I saw it twice with my girlfriend because she is not a bon fan map But she loved that one yeah, so we saw it again, and then my dad said I do want to go and I'm like, oh, yeah That's what I see every time with my dad so I didn't tell him and we went and the credit supply and my dad's a lifelong bond family tends me and goes I reckon that was one of the best bond films I've ever seen and I went I know I've seen it three times

What that's so good That's the last moment. Yeah, it was really cool He was like what and then we saw the latest on spectra which was pretty good and at the minute and he was like Have you seen that twice before? No, no. Oh fuck I forgot Spectre existed. You say that one? Yeah I have seen Spectre and I've already forgotten it. I need to rewatch some of this. Oh yes actually I really like the new cute young cute. Oh yes. I really like cute. And cute is the character that gives the gadgets? Yes and it was John Cleese. 1.2, which is really fun. This actor Robert Lowelin for a bit.

He was it forever! Like 15 movies. It was so good. But do you know what? I think you're absolutely right in a sense there, Matt. I know that you've probably got a lot more to talk about. Not a lot more. But I think you're absolutely right in that, whether it's something that you have to watch

as a kid and then a new formal offer, but it's definitely sentimental, like it has to be. Eric and I watched the PS Bros and the ones probably with my family and anything that I watched with my family, especially my older brother, as a kid, I just hold on to now, like Wayne's world, not a great movie, but I fucking love it. That's a really good movie, that's a really, really great movie. It's my top five ever. My brother and I watched that together, like all the time, like it's- Yeah, I think that's an awesome movie. Yeah Yeah it's great so with with the Daniel Craig Bond movies my ex boyfriend and I used to love Cassino Royale and like every couple of months we would watch

it like it would be like what do you want to do tonight? Let's watch Cassino Royale we just watch it all the time we loved it. It's funny. It's awesome. So like that was Daniel Craig's first movie and so I've just loved all of the ones he's done seeing. I did see I saw one of them at the cinemas one of the Daniel Craig ones and all I only moment remember from it is like the cameras following him right all of the ones he's done seeing. I did see, I saw one of them at the cinemas, one of the Dan O'Creg ones, and all the only moment I remember from it is like the camera's following him right, and then they fall through like a glass ceiling, but the camera just is locked onto their angle.

So when they fall over, the camera follows them, and I just like the whole screen is like it flips down, what movie's that one? Oh, I don't know, I don't remember. I just remember that moment going, wow wow I think it might have even been the disappointing one quite a bit of a solace maybe that or the first one anyway this is just probably pretty dull the best is when in casino royal he gets poisoned and he has to go out to the car to defibrillate himself and he can't plug it in properly

And they're trying to look they're talking to him through the car and like you got to plug it in Ah, and then he like he dies and then Vespa Resuscitates him because she came out and he's like, oh are you okay? And she's like what you just died and then he gets back into play poker again and the bad guy tried to kill him His surprise that he's there and James is like, sorry, that last hand almost killed me. Oh, so good. Classic bond with the quip. That was that Madden Nicholson, that guy is a sheep.

The sheep. The Christy. Christy. He was a really Christy. I just said he Christy is. We all do, right? I mean, yeah. He cries blood.

Can you, it's probably too much for a, like a not-a-life long fan to imagine someone to cry as tears, but this guy does it. You were bullying me. I'm sorry, but it's not my head, man. So you can't have touched on this earlier, Dave, which I was laughing at the Bond people, but you out of yourself as one. When Craig was announced as the new 007, the fan backlash was extreme. Apparently, they protested that he should have been disqualified by his blonde hair alone. But also, I mean, you couldn't possibly

dole his hair or anything, but also because he was too bland of an actor to play the swarve Bond. I agree, he is kind of bland. But you said it's work really well, that's funny, you know, nerds. It's like, I mean, everyone's sort of a good. I actually, I learned from that to just, as a, you just, the next one I would, I would give them a go. That's funny, yeah.

If they cast someone who was, who I thought would be terrible, I'd still be like, I'll watch it. No, give it a go. I thought that he would be awful at least, great. It's funny because it's hard. Even I reckon he had, it must have been so good to overcome that

because I reckon when people shut their mind off to something they'll often dislike it if it's wine ball. But it has to be so good to turn people over from going, I know this is gonna be shit because you have to say I was wrong and that's hard for your brain to do. That's true, yeah. Especially if it's something that is subjective like that.

If it's objective, it's sort of like all right yeah that definitely says number two on the screen I can't. Yeah yeah yeah. I said it couldn't be done but I'm looking at it too. That's true yeah. That's two. So despite the nerds and their backlash the film proceeded and when it was released it was met with universal acclaim and he's gone on to successfully I mean this is all redundant now because I talked about it But he's gone on to successfully play the role in three more films Conor Mufsala which was disappointing Skyfall which was meant to be one of the best

But Inspector which was meant to be quite good There's plenty of watch Spectre there's plenty of lists that rank the movies online and they're all sort of, you know, they're all a bit different but Skipal is towards the top I love the sky full goal fingers Choncon respiss Finger Shirley bassy In an interview shortly after I'm almost Rappin up here in an interview shortly after Spectre wrapped. He famously said that he would rather slash his wrists than do another Bond movie.

But more recently he backtracked from that comment saying, they say that shit sticks. Well that definitely stuck. It was the day after filming stopped on Spectre. I'd been away from home for a year. Boohoo, it's a good gig, I enjoy it. Everyone's a bit tired. As far as I'm concerned, I've got the best job in the world. I'll keep doing it as long as I still get a kick out of it. If I were going to stop doing it, I'd miss it terribly. Oh, is that good? Because I like him. But it's still not clear whether or not he will be back next

year. He hasn't locked it in. They're keen, but they're sort of apparently the producers are panicking a bit, and it's putting the next movie In a bit of turmoil, but he's still he's still odds on favorite to be back for at least one more And you know what like I think what we can learn from the James Bond Entire series is that it's always hard when there's gonna be a new one like yeah I remember Daniel Craig and I was like come on Because it's such big news that it's on the news that Daniel Craig and I was like, come on, this could be shit. And he's for the right. Because it's such big news that it's on the news

that night announced. And you're like, what? And you learn to love that bond. But when there's a new one, I will be open to it. But it is funny, yeah, that's such a way more fun way to live is to go, oh, this is exciting. It's a new chapter. I can't wait to see what this is like.

Rather than like, oh, this is gonna be shit a better few minutes. Yeah, it's a new chapter I can't wait to see what this is like rather than like oh this is gonna be shit of better few minutes yeah it's pretty negative because like the movies of ourselves they're just those fun action movies where there's heaps of explosions and fight scenes and it's so over the top you're like this is all bullshit you should have died eight times and the movie's been going for six minutes I mean that's always been the weirdest thing for a movie like Austin Powers is the parody of James Bond. But James Bond is kind of a parody in itself.

Yeah. He has like, often they have like in jokes, they look at the camera, the names of silly, and exploding pens, like it's all kinds of crazy, silly stuff. Oh man, I read about a bunch of different sort of bond movies made by other makers. It would just, they weren't bond movies, but they were you know They were bond movies you can tell they were rip off some one of them was done by in Italy and they got Sean Connery's brother to play the character

With a different name, no and a problem Brad. It was it was awful Well, no, he's you know his name was whatever Conner I think it was and he Um, well no, his name was whatever Connery, I think it was, and he, um, he, at the end of the movie, the bad guy or the boss probably goes, said something like, um, Not bad, not bad because he saved the day, not bad. Almost as good as your brother Sean Connery, or something like that. And then they turn to the camera and wink or something. That's so funny. In case you didn't get it. I was trying to look up on Netflix what Bond movies are like, I want to go home and watch Jeff Bond. Yeah, this is definitely made me more interested.

And I'm sure, it's the kind of thing you've just got to get in the right mindset. I was talking about being, the nerd's been negative about a new one. I'm sure I do that just about the whole series. Yeah, the writer Hoss is silly, but it's just fun. It's just fun.

You just have to go on with the right frame of mind. But I also think why people are so negative about new ones is probably because they're just really protective of a thing they love. Absolutely. Yeah, they don't want someone to come and fuck it up and they assume that someone will because they love it so hard that they don't trust. Absolutely. Like, it's hard to give away that trust to some.

And they're usually new directors and stuff of that as well So that was me with the Hunger Games here like you're gonna fuck this up and they kind of did No, it was fine Anyway, that's an irrelevant point. So that's basically the end of my report I've got some what I've called fun facts question mark. Great. They're not I don't know if they are super fun You did mention talking about the songs Yes, I was gonna do that right at the end. Great. Great. Sorry to jump in there. I'm just really excited to talk about it and sing.

There was the other comments. I'm just going through the other comments that came through on the people who voted on this topic. One of them said, why did George watch his face do only one movie? There we go. You've been further. That's good. Oh another guy's gone. Because you wanted to bond with these kids. Especially if you talk about the different parts of bond and how they belong to other people, which I think we sort of did, but also about Jimmy Bond. Jimmy Bond. Oh and he also asked a more shorn kind of impression. There we go. They're not do very many of those. There you go, Dave. But Jimmy Bond, I've looked up Jimmy Bond.

Have you guys heard of Jimmy Bond? Is that a kid series? No, apparently it's a character from the X-Files. Oh, I thought there was also like a kid series. First appearing in a the episode called Bond. Jimmy Bond. Oh, lol. Can you describe him?

He's a fictional character. He's an X-Files fan. Oh, I love it. See them all. Cool. From the lone gunman and the ex-files, so two different Saffo shows. I'm sort of cross-sino. Oh, yes, I do know Jimmy Bond.

He made one appearance in the ex-files. OK, and he's like the doofus in the lone gunman, which is an ex-files spin off. Yeah, that's him, yeah. Can you, because I didn't look into him. I didn't miss that comment until now. Can you tell us anything about him? Oh, he's just sort of like a silly character. It's just a silly boy. I think that's enough. I think he'll be happy with it.

I think you'll take that one on. I love the lone gunman. I love the expels. That's interesting. You have a lot in common with some of our listels, obviously. Because they're all a pack of nerds. Here's a fact on anything with this super fun, but the immortal catchphrase bond, James Bond, was first used in the novel Cassano Roel. So it was there from right from the beginning. That's cool.

We'll have a go. The name spawned. James Bonded. Oh, we do have sense. The guy wanted it. Okay, but do I have to do a connery? I can I just do it. You can do a Roger Moravie like. Can you do a Daniel break? No, I can't. I'm well I'll try it. Connery, what's the connery word? I mean, something like this will get me going. I know this. No, this one, I think it'll get me into the mood and then I'll do the one Bond James Bond all right now. I'll do the line. Okay bond James Bond James Bond James I love that shake and not stoke

Not strobe your kind of like your voice is so deep. It's like an octave lower than Sean Converning and octopussy lower One octopussy lower James Bond John F. Kennedy asked Ian Fleming how to defeat Fidel Castro apparently that's a fun fact Yes, that's a fun fact. So apparently the the Bond novels weren't super popular in the USA until John F. Kennedy listed from Russia with love as one of his 10 favorite books in an interview with Laf Magazine in 1961. And that brought it to the attention of mainstream America.

That's so funny. How cool. Imagine having that much influence. Kennedy met. I assume we do. Yeah. Hey everyone, to Kill and Mockingbirds, what are my favorite books?

Oh, what's that? It's something with the best selling books of all time. That obscure book. There you go, nailed it. You're welcome. Kennedy met Fleming at a dinner in 1960 and asked him about overthrowing Fidel Castro. Apparently Fleming gave Kennedy a bizarre plot

that included convincing Castro his beard attracted radiation, causing Castro to shave off his beard and thus totally destroying his mojo. But that would work though. I mean, we laughed, but that would work. And he lived until, like, you know, last month because he didn't implement that plan in 1965. That's true. Wow, what a missed opportunity.

Don't know you were that. This one's less fun than that probably, but M, you know the name M's the boss. Yes. That was the, well that was Ian Fleming's nickname for his own mom. M. M. I like that.

I might call my mom M, that's funny. I actually know because my sister-in-law's name is Emma and I call her M. It'll get very confusing at Christmas dinner. What did I say? Hey M, that's funny. I actually know because my sister-in-law's name is Emma and I call her M. It'll get very confusing at Christmas dinner. What do I say? Hey, M and they both turn around. All right, I'm Christmas dinner. I'll call your mom M.

I think that's... I think that's... She'll know. Because she knows that I refuse to speak to Emma. We have... After what happened. Yeah, we've got our differences. Yeah, I know.

And that's putting it in life. She's a human right of sunshine. Oh, human something. But that's putting it in life. She's a human ray of sunshine. Oh, human something. But can't be said. James H. my sister-in-law for some reason. I quite like her. I think she's very nice. What's her name? Joanne. She's a good lady. Oh, Lily. And your brother's a good guy too. Well, done everybody. Hey, just before we go though, I said earlier, let's... I want to hear your favorite songs and I found this article and there's a few of these but I found this one on digitalspy.com and it's listed the 23 main tracks.

There would be a few that were either nominated or won Oscars. Over E2 and it's the last two. Because my favorite is Skyfall. That's the first one to be lost for. Was that the first? And the... Fuck you Adele. Specter this year or last year by...

Oh shit, that was um... Sam Smith. Sam Smith, yeah. That was the two. Okay, so... So what was your favorite again? I like Skyfall best. It's a great theme.

It's so good. Skyfall ranks... That's the Adel one. In this one, it ranks. What is this like my popular line? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no ranks What is this like no but no line. Oh, it's just some some idiot's opinion. I'll say I really do like golf finger Yeah, golfing good Golfing her is great and that is number four. Okay, my favorite which is probably shows that I oh, I've got a few But what I like the Jack White one, don't you? Yes, at least.

The Lysha Keys. Jack White and Lysha Keys are a great song. Yeah. It's a really good song. They rank that as the worst. Do they? Yeah. That's a good one.

What, they rank as the number one? I'll go through the top few. My other one that I really like, which I've only heard recently because of our friend, Oliver Clark, is a great singer and comedian. He sings this sometimes. It's the Tom Jones one. You know that one. Fun double. Oh yes yes yes. So I really like that as well. But I've only really heard Oliver Clark's rendition. Here are the top five. Number five, gold and I by Tina Turner.

That's not in 95 Number four gold finger Shirley Bassy Number three is a Kraken tune live and let die Number two we have all the time in the world Louis Armstrong That's from the George Laisen B. Oh, yeah, don't know that one. And this is interesting because George Laisenby only played James Bond once, but boy, what a movie. On her majesty's secret service was a cracker across the board. Great Bond girl and Diana Rigg, great villain in Telli Savals' Blowfield and the only 007 film that a legit make you cry, which is probably

interesting. And other people went the other way and they were like, yeah, so I think overwhelmingly people seem to dislike it, but there are people like, does it make you cry tears or blood? Blood. Blood like normal people or tears? Like this weird Bond villain. This crazy mad mickkelson. And number one, which is what you joked about earlier, Joran Joran's a view to a kill.

No. Joran Joran number one. So it makes me feel like listening to what you guys have said, this might be a poorly constructed list. But. Okay, but it's subjective and that person is allowed to have that opinion. I agree.

And I think it'd be really nice to hear listeners' feedback on it. If you do have a favourite tune. A favourite tune, favourite act, I'd love to hear all three. That would be amazing. And you can get into contact with us, get into contact. Get into contact. Get into bed with us. But also get in contact with us. I didn't agree to that.

I definitely did. When I said ass I was talking about me and Dave. Cool. I was going to say me, but Dave, while I was bringing my thumbs to my chest, he agreed, so I was talking about me and Dave I was gonna say me but Dave while I was bringing my thumbs to my chest He agreed so I brought it to me in here Duke at do go on pod on Instagram and Twitter Do go on pod on Facebook Do go on pod at gmail.com on

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Yeah. Be really cool, but yeah, I'd love to hear feedback about the Bond thing. Maybe if there are only other super Bond fans and they would love to know where I should start if I'm gonna try and get into it. What's a movie that you could convert a guy is a bit skeptical about it?

I reckon Casino Royale, because it's like starting the franchise again. Daniel Craig is great. Yeah. Shot well. Shot well, the opening is awesome, so suck you in. And then it's just a great film. Yeah, I agree. I might try and watch it and see how it goes. I agree. Can I watch it with you, but just watch you the whole time? Yeah, of course. Great. I'd expect nothing less.

Can we just hear Jessica? But I'm also like, because I've seen it. That's pressure. I've seen it so many times. I would be saying all the lines of it as well I'm bleeding chips. I mean Felix lives. He's the best Felix lighter. He's a recurring character as well. I'm bleeding chips Oh, this has become a long episode. Hey, I will know I think that's part of all of our problem Manly me maybe because I did the report but before we go we like to thank some of our Patreon. Patreon? Patreon's. At the end of each episode it's part of the deal. People with these subscribe to a certain level or something on their day. Don't figure that shit out.

Get to hear three people, maybe save their name. It's very exciting. It is cool but I really appreciate getting to thank people by name. Yeah, cool to thank you properly. Yeah. And I'll kick it off. We've got three names here. Rowan Epstein. Rowan! We've definitely sent you a Christmas card. I remember it well.

Yeah, I remember writing that one. Great guy. He's in the Seanberg group. Rowan Epstein. Thank you Rowan. Big Rowan fan. You an absolute star. I reckon he is, he is genuinely a star in Seanning,

but in North Sky. Frequent contributor and supporter. star. I reckon he is he is genuinely a star in shining brightly in the night sky. Frequent, a frequent contributor and supporter. Just an all-round good guy and kind of person that I would love to have in bed with me and Dave. I was thinking a good comment we can watch one of the Bond movies but. Okay well you've all made it weird now. Somebody that I would really like to thank is a very good friend of ours as well. And a big supporter. Big supporter, just, but not just of the podcast of us as humans.

Oh, mom. Which is lovely. Close. It's Emily. Yes, are you very close. Patronial. Very close, Patronial. So we want to say thank you. Thank you Emily. What a bloody super supporter I think she actually gave us one of our early topics about tattoos. Yes, I do remember her giving us that topic

So thank you Emma. You're you're an absolute bloody gem. No this Now, where do I start? Where do I start a frequent tweeter? Freakin supporter out. Where do I start? A frequent tweeter, a frequent supporter, a man that lives in Scotland though on Twitter is electric keywee. Very confusing. Very confusing. He's only got his first aim here, but I know him well enough from social media that I think I can just have a go at the full name here. It is Ross, and I believe it is Ross Barbus Smith. Correct. And Ross, I would like to thank you for everything you do. Russ. That was a big three this week.

Yeah, huge, very exciting. Frequent collaborators, thank you so much. Electric Kiwi. We appreciate that. You're the best. You're the best, Russ. Thanks so much, you guys. What a bloody pleasure.

And, uh, jeez. I don't know how you would say it in Scottish. Have we not started the year with a real bang? Oh, boy. Yeah, actually, that's a good one to start with. I'm sorry, I got quite passionate at times. I'm glad you did. I'm really excited.

Because when I got it I was overwhelmed because I'm like, oh people care so much about this. It's huge, yeah. I don't and I hopefully, but it's funny how close I get to the topics when I do a report about it. I now feel involved in Bond and I reckon when I see another film I'm going to be right into it. Yeah. Just because I'm sort of like sucked up so much of the backstory.

Yeah well so thank you so much Alex Cossie for the suggestion and the voters who voted it up. You go home watch Casino Royale. I'm definitely in the mood for Bond. I might start with Casino Royale. Might just go straight to Skyfall because I just fuck them in the mood for Skyfall but I also don't really remember Spectre for some reason. I'm gonna watch that again. I'm gonna watch that again. I'm gonna watch that again. I'm gonna watch Goldfinger. Oh, interesting choice, yeah okay. Love it. Please text me. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. Yes, it will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will. It will.

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