Two In The Think Tank - 67 - The Derpy Hooves Controversy

Episode Date: February 1, 2017

This week we dip into the GOLDEN HAT to present the topic suggested by one of our patreon listeners. We delve into the mysterious world of My Little Ponies and its fans. Dave has a lot of opinions abo...ut this one! Twitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: dogoonpod@gmail.comSupport the show and get rewards like bonus episodes:www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPod  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:02:40 What do we? Triple Evers. Yes that's all we could. Twins bit three. How about the time you asked if identical twins were always identical? can join twins. What do we? Triple诶. Triple诶. That's all good. Twinsmith3. How about the time you asked if identical twins are always identical? We've had several people tweeting saying that there are instances where they are not.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Most of them are medical and normally use. Sure. Anyway. Yes, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are
Starting point is 00:03:03 we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are, we are man, you are my left hand. I don't have a left side With waving with his left, so I'm on the right That's useless. I can't do anything on my right hand. Yeah, that's annoying for you I'm left hand and I'm left hand right hand We should swap we should swap you and I that means I've got no hands in the middle Yeah, but you do have torso and head you're all torso. I've got two nipples Wait, are we just arms to you then? Yeah, we are arms.
Starting point is 00:03:27 My arms are nicknames, Jess and Matt. We are wings. You're my wingman. That's beautiful. Anyway, sorry that I started a weird tangent there. Hello everyone. Hello. Is it me?
Starting point is 00:03:39 You're looking for. Yes. Hey, what's up? Finally answer that, A, Joel question. The answer was Jess. Drinking from a bit of, what's the chord again, that fizzy thing? Liquid. Fuck you.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Soda water. Soda stream. Soda stream. No plugs, please. Is there other brands of soda stream? That's the brand. You don't understand it, do you? It's just no.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Okay. It's just fizzy water with flavoring. Yeah. How is that popular? That's better. Yeah, that's it. See, I brought up the brand only to tear it down. Got them.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I'm going to bring down this show from the inside. K, episode 67. Two off our favorite comedy number. Yeah, we're waiting for it. It's going to be a big one. We're waiting for that. 65. That's right. We got two beyond our favorite number. And it was so good.
Starting point is 00:04:36 We didn't do a shout out. We didn't realize at the time that we'd done 65. We can make up for it now. Hey, I was on a podcast recently. This is a super delayed plug, but it was really fun. And it was in this very bloody pod studio. Are you talking about episode 66? Yes, last week's.
Starting point is 00:04:55 It was, really good, right? Check the river. Check the river. It was a bloody river. A lot of fun, a lot of ripping. People have said it was a river. That was gross. But also on a friend's podcast in here a few weeks ago
Starting point is 00:05:06 Two and the thing tank You should listen to a Dave It's a lot of fun that show Two friends of ours Andy and L Pitch sketch ideas and Matt you're invited do you remember any of the titles of the sketches you were pitching? No, I mean it it Fuck it's a fast show You're sitting there and there they've already come up with something sort of just starts happening without you even realizing it
Starting point is 00:05:32 The sketches in front it's hard to keep up with those guys. Is that what comedy's like fast-priced? Witness comedy. Yeah. Oh, you don't get that here. No, you certainly don't get it That one that make and stuff what? Yeah All we're doing is teaching stuff. No, no, no. That's making stuff. What? Yeah. All we're doing is teaching stuff. Yeah. Learning valuable life lessons on the wall. Those who can't do teach.
Starting point is 00:05:51 And those who can't teach teach Jim. Thank you, school of rock, jack black. Great movie. Who's Jim? I want to be in a good response. I put a broad check back down. You shut that bastard down. GMT just on with you.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Went through a real phase watching that movie a lot, really? Yeah. Like recently, like... No, I don't know, 10 years ago. It's a TV show, is it? Is it? No, it's not. Oh, maybe? Maybe it isn't.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I think it will. Okay, great. We try Matt. Yeah. Maybe it is, I don't know. Now, pipe down. For the rest of the episode, you're banned from talking. Dave's turning his microphone off. All right, maybe it is. I don't know now pipe down for the rest of the episode you banned from talking Dave turnings microphone off All right, it's off great Matt try and talk
Starting point is 00:06:31 God him Matt, we're just kidding Matt. We didn't turn it off right your mic's back on Matt Matt, okay, what okay? Thank you very good very funny stuff You're a piece of shit and you're a piece of shit Yes, oh I was going through a more one by one. God you keep going then cuz this I mean it's more than three. There's definitely more than three And you're a piece of shit. That's all of them. There's four of them. There's four listeners. It's only a third time I've said it but I remember
Starting point is 00:07:06 Lano and Woodley started a their listeners their listeners. They their pieces of shit They started some sort of said I feel like it might have been at Carol's by candlelight or Carol's in the domain or something like that There's many years ago. It's sort of Carol's character. It's not a picture anyone good being on those shit Sort of like well, I don't remember what it was. It was like an outdoor thing. Anyway, but they were just, I remember Laina going, Hello, good day, hi, hello, good day, hello, hello, hello, hi there. And they just kept saying hi. They were like, sorry, I was just going to get through all of you. Hello, hello, good day, hello. It was great. Very funny.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Do you reckon he actually, he committed? 100%. You got it, really. You must, Dave. You must. You must always commit. Murder. If you jack the ripper. But I'm hoping that this week is we've had the last three episodes I've been the only one to not do a murder topic yeah so maybe we could steer away from murder this week I don't know because yes you're
Starting point is 00:07:57 going to be doing the report this week you know I love a murder you love love we're doing another murder we're not doing another murder. Don't worry boy Just gonna bloody murder this yeah, I'm gonna murder this report I'm gonna good way. I'm gonna murder your brains in a good way Like you're gonna be brain dead You're gonna need years of life support in a good way. Yeah, so this week Because we have I don't know how you want to explain it, but we have the the golden hat in a good way Which have the golden hat through if people support us through patreon which keeps the show going we appreciate that a lot
Starting point is 00:08:42 There's a certain tier of if you pledge a certain amount per month You your suggestions for Matt's hat go into the golden hat. I imagine a section of your hat, Matt. Just covered in gold. I thought it was your hat, Dave. I do wear a golden hat. That could be confusing. Is that why Matt?
Starting point is 00:08:58 Is that what you were thinking? Matt. I don't know. Just how I was pictured. It would have worked, though. So these topics, if you pledge a certain amount amount going to the golden hat, which means we must do the topic as long as there's enough information on it, you can't just be like, do a thing on my dog.
Starting point is 00:09:11 That would be fun. If he gave us the enough information, we could do your dog. We could do your dog. And then we could start the report. It's all research, yes, it's all research. But you, Matt and I have done some golden hat topic so far. Jess, you yet to step up to the plate? Well, the golden plate. The gold. Steped up to the silver plate. This is a golden plate at episode.
Starting point is 00:09:36 The plate is. Yeah, because 100% carrot gold. This is my first, my first golden hat topic. And it was also not that we want to set the precedent that you can do this but it was also specifically requested that I do this topic. I'm not entirely sure why but it's for me to do. Yeah, it's not you pesky boys. Yeah, I don't think I don't know if that's in the rules but you can definitely suggest it. Yeah, we can't. And is that a compliment to Jess or an offense to Matt and I that's what I want to know I took it as an offense to Jess going like sure He is He's a topic
Starting point is 00:10:12 And I want to hear you talk about it because I don't like hearing you do reports and I hate myself That's what I that's how I read it. Wow. Okay. That's you read a lot into Sentence it's strange, but okay. That's fine. So yeah, this topic has been suggested by a good friend and original listener from the get-go. Lovely. All the way back from episode 65, that great episode.
Starting point is 00:10:37 We talked about earlier. This is a topic suggested by Cecil Hopps, who's been there from day one. And I believe he is do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that.
Starting point is 00:10:58 I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. being facetious, they've been really bad. We don't know that, Matt. We do know that from like my last six reports, I think. Do you reckon you're getting worse at questions? Just a question, I think my reports are fine. Yeah, reports are mean, how about your hashtags? I'll try to remember if I know what Cecil suggested
Starting point is 00:11:15 because I reckon I might have seen this, but it may be I'll be out of your question or what are you ringing some bells? Trigger some bells. Trigger some bells. Trigger some bells. So I some bells. Trigger some bells. Trigger some bells. So, I'll start with this question then. What is a note that I'm looking at my notes, but I don't have a question written down. What is the most popular?
Starting point is 00:11:37 Equestrian-based television series. Oh, an L.A. It's a setup club. Yeah, I'll sing you a setup club. The Melbourne Cup. It's not a club. Televised once a year. It's not really a series, that Yeah, I'll sing you a saddle club. The Melbourne Cup. This is not a club. Telled it's one to a year. It's not really a series, that's it.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It's a year for a hundred years. The Melbourne Cup Carnival. That's not a series. It's a mini series. Horsing around with Jeff. Bojack Horseman. Oh my god, actually that's great. And it's anime, yeah, okay, good one, but no.
Starting point is 00:12:00 It's an anime series aimed for children. Horses and haurs. No, not Dave. Is that a real thing? No. It's an anime series aimed for children horses and hares. No, not Dave is that a real thing? No Neither is horseing around with Jeff just having a guess horses and hares though. Horsings are around is real No, it's not Horsing around is the show that he's on in Bojack Horseman I thought they made it made an episode of it maybe
Starting point is 00:12:25 they're doing. I think they did. I don't know anymore. What about you tell us? Yeah. I know because it's bloody this guy it will be. Come on. I'm keeping my head saying paddle pops but that's not right little little pony club just my little pony is a club part of it there's no club no you think you've settled club club in a Australian series from the late 90's to the other thing about clubbing my little ponies going clubbing with my little ponies do they like to go clubbing? I reckon they would.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Okay, right. Well, more than baby seals. Cecil's actual suggestion is the Derpy Hoves controversy, which is just one part. Oh, that very famous controversy. That famous controversy that we all know about, obviously. But do we even need to talk about it so far? No, so I mean, that's the end of the podcast.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Thank you so much for listening. Make sure you tweet to us. It's one part of a story, but I thought I'd give you some background. If I may, if that's okay with you. I look, to be honest, I probably need a little background. Do you reckon? Because I've met two old to know that I know. No, it's just a perfect time for Matt actually.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Oh, is this like a 90s? No, it's more like a 1740s kind of hang on You're an old man. You're an old man. Your captain cooks dad. You're gross Just just seem to think that all of a sudden the floor was open for truth Yeah, I thought that's not what was happening Just seemed to think that all of a sudden the floor was open for truth. Yeah, I thought that's not what was happening. Dave, can we say we were having that intervention with him today?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, I'll back out. Dave, you do this every time. I know, I can't. When are we having that intervention for Dave backing out all the time? No. Because we said we're going to do that this week. We should do it this week. No, I'll back out like I would.
Starting point is 00:14:21 I'm not gross, I shampooed and conditioned today. You're beard? Both. My beard and my head. You do them at the same time, aren't you? Yeah, one and the other. Oh, you must. You must. Oh, you must. No, it was the same time. He said that recently. It's unconventional, but it's it gets the same. Yeah, I thought I'd probably go one then the other. What do you mean you're all tonight? Oh, you mean like he's literally washing at the same? Yeah, like rinse the hair. Oh, no, yeah, sorry, I do one on the other. All right, hair then be it, please.
Starting point is 00:14:46 Please, who's that animal? Well, that's because gravity. Yeah, that's true. Good thinking. Yeah, bringing science to the podcast. Sometimes you're very clever. Thank you. And other times you're real dumb. That's like the identical twins controversy
Starting point is 00:15:03 of the My Little Pony story. Introversey. So, I will give you a little bit of background. So My Little Pony is an entertainment franchise developed by Hasbro, which is marketed primarily to girls. The first toys are... Sorry, at children girls. Is that correct?
Starting point is 00:15:18 Children girls. Is that, yeah, not ladies. Right. Girls, little girls. Now the first toys were produced in 1981 and the ponies featured colorful bodies, mains and a unique symbol on one or both sides of their flanks.
Starting point is 00:15:33 In the more recent incarnations of the series, these are referred to as cutie marks. Cutie marks. So they've all got like different things on their butts. I don't know, I don't think I like that at all. It's kind of like how care bears had different things on their tummy. So they all have a tramp stamp They've all got They've changed their wording. Yeah, cutie marks when I grew up though tramp stamps
Starting point is 00:15:53 What tramp stamp does your my little pony have? Yeah, you're my little pony my your little pony My's got a butterfly pooing on a dolphin Beautiful That's got a butterfly pooing on a dolphin. Beautiful. Beautiful. That's not a tramp, that's a cutie mark. Oh, sorry. The butterfly's poo. They're my god. Oh, you must. Oh, you must.
Starting point is 00:16:12 So not poo is to not live. As Daycut once said. Anyway, obviously they've all got cutie marks on their butts. So when he's on their butt, so you said flamethrower. That's a nice word for a baddie baddies. It's like they're back But like they like they hit before horse had the horses ass the horses ass, but not right around the butt like next to the Next to the tail just slightly round to one side like a hip like where I'm pointing on my own body now Right, and what kind of right what kind of marks like I got like someone have like a rainbow
Starting point is 00:16:42 Some have bubbles on them some might have stars They're pretty much care bears, right? They're like care bears What were care bears? I don't know care bears. I know what they are bears who had cutie marks on their flanks Tommy's Tommy's they're on their best on their guts. Yeah, they got a gut butt Got but a gut gut stamps gut stamp God, but... Oh, God. God stamps.
Starting point is 00:17:04 God stamps. God stamps. God's is fun. Anyway, so now following the original My Pretty Pony toy, which was introduced in 1981, my little pony was launched in 83. So what was the first one I know you won? My Pretty Pony, which is a toy. Just started as a toy.
Starting point is 00:17:21 But they were full size. They did not so well. It was very difficult to go them into your home. Yeah, it's really good. Once you keep growing out of it. And also, kind of inhumane to dye them different colors and tattoo their form. Oh, they're also real colors. They're real colors.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Yeah, but they were good. Not only real size, but they were real colors. Real colors, just a pony. They're glued to a base. Obviously, you could wheel them. You could wheel them around. And their mouths were glued shut. I'm not enjoying this. But no, give could wheel them. You could wheel them around. Yeah. And their mouths were glued shut. I'm not enjoying this
Starting point is 00:17:47 But no, it's not a part Check out my cutie still a bit of a pity cutie So my little pony was launched in 83 and the line became really really popular that decade because they're smaller That's just like there's just a different range of toys. Well, whereas one person used to buy one for a dollar, now they could in that same amount of space fit 100. And so they sold 100 times better. Right, so they were originally selling a full size horse for $1.
Starting point is 00:18:19 Yeah, it was very cheap. Wow, it is cheap. They almost went out of business to them and that big change to make them little. Suddenly, they're profiting like crazy. How much were they charging the out? Still a dollar. Wow, but for the little ones. Yeah, they were making 100 times profit. Goodness gracious. And they didn't have to like do weird shit to get. They were making toys instead. That's interesting. They initially kind of shrink down the actual ponies, but yeah, wow.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Science wouldn't allow it. No, yeah, they had some real issues. They exploited them, I'm exactly. I killed a lot of ponies. Oh, no. They weren't shrink raised, they were guns. And it took them like hundreds of goes before they gave up on it.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Wow, well, I mean, I can admire their persistence, I suppose, perseverance. They killed a lot of ponies. Yeah. They've got a lot of pony butt on their hooves. The people also had hooves. It's like this. The first experiment was to put hooves on people's hands.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. It was a mess up time in the 80s, but now we got through it. Hey, but suddenly there's little dollar ponies. Everyone's happy. Everyone's OK. We forget about the hundreds of dead ponies. Everyone's happy. Everyone's okay. We forget about the hundreds of dead ponies. And hundreds of men with hoos for hands. And wasted bullets.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Clipety clop. There you go. So the original toy line, the My Little Pony toys, they ran from about 83 to 95, 92 in the US, actually. They kind of got over it a bit earlier. It inspired animated specials, an animated feature length film, and animated TV series. My little pony has actually been revamped at least four times with new and more modern looks to appeal to a new market, so they update what the pony's looked like.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Still like Trams, damn it's in 3D or something. Yeah, they kind of jazzled it up a bit. They're cool, they're more progressive. How do you make a pony progressive? I don't know Dave. I'm pretending to care. Just jokes. I think it's all very interesting. So the most current series is the fourth generation. It's called My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic. Fact, that is a fact. That is fact.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And that's very progressive, because the original ponies went friends at all, and they often murdered each other. Yeah, clopped each other to death. Yeah, pretty clopped, clopped. You know how long it takes to clop a pony to death? How long? Six hours.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Exactly. Every time, it's one of these weird things from nature. They can't take it, they're gonna get it better at it. They don't. It's very frustrating. At $5.59 you think the horse is gonna pull through one more clump, that thing's gone. Wow. That is sick. Yeah. No, it's kind of beautiful. Yeah. Okay. Well, friendship is magic. Friendship is magic. As we say on the podcast. So, friendship is magic is an animated television series produced by Hasbro Studios And the series premiered on October 10, 2010 on the hub which is an American television channel partly owned by Hasbro
Starting point is 00:21:14 So this version was created by Lauren Faust who was a fan in her youth and invented her own adventure stories for the toys in place of the original shows Stereotypical girly stories. So, like, earlier generations were quite like girly, like, yeah, stereotypical girly stories, like that sentence just said. Give us an example, Jeff. What's a stereotypical, even if it's not from the canon. So, stereotypical... What's a stereotypical girly story?
Starting point is 00:21:41 Probably just like, there'd be a bully, a mean pony picking on the nerdy pony And maybe the nerdy pony only has a couple of friends but those friends kind of rally around her and help her Overcome the bully and then it turns out the bullies actually just kind of jealous because her parents are getting a divorce So then the like the bully pony no the nerdy pony like takes pity on her and so invited to a slumber party and then she comes over to the slumber party and originally she's like, I'm too cool of a slumber party, but then they actually start to have a little bit of fun and she finally lets her guard down and she's like, guys, I'm sorry that I've been so mean to you. I'm hoping we can all be friends and then they're all friends. That is so girly.
Starting point is 00:22:17 Wow. Yeah. That was so girly, I like zoned out because I was like, if I look at this, I would come with girls. They all sink up and get the hair. So I have the same time. There it is. The girly element.
Starting point is 00:22:27 Yeah. I will wait for that much more into Tony than anything my little pony has ever done. My story that I do. Your story. Way better. Was your story Mean Girls? Mean Pony's?
Starting point is 00:22:37 Mean Pony's. Mean Pony's. So the, well, I guess in a way. Yeah. The fifth genie. You know why we all are, aren't we? Mean Girls. In a way.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Aren't we all responsible for Mean Girls? Hmm. Mainly a way, yeah. The fifth genie. In a way, we all are aren't we? Mean girls. In a way, aren't we all responsible for mean girls? Hmm. Mainly Liz Lemon, but. That's not a real name. Teenify. Teenify, fuck. Mainly Liz Lemon. Anyway, so she had, like in her youth, she'd sort of made up stories that weren't quite
Starting point is 00:22:59 as stereotypical and when she became responsible for this show, she endeavoured to design her own version of the franchise to address those concerns, like about it being too girly or too stereotypical. So her series is actually acclaimed for its sophisticated writing and nuanced characters. Is that true? That's true. Apparently, I've not seen that, but people are mad for it, and it's pretty interesting. You didn't watch the Emmys that year obviously yeah, they sweeped clean sweep every single award It's just the new one's character once new wants characters. Mm-hmm. They want it. They want it's what's that? Best foreign film. Yep Straight in there. They also took the Oscars out as well. Oh, yeah, they presented the Oscars to themselves and also the
Starting point is 00:23:47 Tonies out as well. Oh yeah. They presented the Oscars to themselves. And also the Tonys. They won an E-Got. They got the E-Got? One year. Yeah. Wow. That's how good this is. Poor. That's how critically they've been. Never been done before or since. Yeah, never will. Clipety Club. Clipety Club was hot that year. Clipety Club was on the Clipety Club. That was what they every in the end they were so bored of doing acceptance speeches, they just be like, Clipety Club motherfuggers, Clipety Club microphone drop. That's what they would do. Right, and then they won like a... They pronounced them like a microphone.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Yeah, microphone. They go back out, win another award, pick up the microphone and again. But they're not divas, they're very polite. So they do the mic drop and then they pick it up and put it back in. They actually won a Grammy award for that acceptance speech because that rap was so New on and so new once and sophisticated and sophisticated. Yeah for a show aimed at like six year old girls Yeah, it's pretty impressive. None of them are divas apart from of course sparkly diva
Starting point is 00:24:40 The yeah, yeah, she's that's I bet you there's one one called deeper sparkles. Would you like to hear? Do you like to hear their names? Sure. So oh, there's a limit there. I just assume there would be a million of them They're well, there's quite a few but the show follows a studious unicorn pony named Twilight Sparkle As her mentor princess Celestia guides her to learn about friendship in the town of Ponyville. Twilight becomes close friends with five other ponies. Applejack, Rarity, Fluttershy, Rainbow Dash, and Pinkypie. I'm gonna call you Pinkypie.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Pinkypie, all the other ones I won as I was expecting to read, but Pinkypie is not what I was expecting. I sound so nuanced. Of those, I sort of feel like. I just love was expecting to read, but Pinky Pie is not what I was expecting. They sound so new on. Of those, I sort of feel like. I just love the sophistication in the name Pinky Pie. I feel like a thos. As adults, we can enjoy that. You're definitely a Pinky Pie, Dave. I think Matt, you might be an Applejack.
Starting point is 00:25:36 Yeah, I'm an Applejack. I think I'm probably fluttershide or rainbow dash, what do you think? Fluttershide. Fluttershide. And this woman won a war. This is a rainbow dash for sure. Rainbow dash. She won the ego, mate this woman won a award. This is a Rambadash for sure. Rambadash. She won the EGOP, mate.
Starting point is 00:25:47 She won the EGOP for calling something Flutter Shire. That is hands down the worst name for a little pony shit thing. I could ever think of. You have gone really hard, really, really, and I love it. I'm sorry, I'm so sorry, but I think I thought that River Dance was something I respected the least. I think we found a new one. Wow! And again, it's my topic.
Starting point is 00:26:06 It's a really nice fashion about this. Young girls to enjoy. It's a TV show. I know, but we're talking about it on our podcast, where we usually talk about like cool stuff. Do we? Cool stuff? Last week was Jack the Ripper. That is pretty cool. That is interesting and sophisticated and nuanced.
Starting point is 00:26:21 It's so cool. He is so cool. Alright, so each of these friends represent a different facet of friendship. And Twilight discovers this all to be a key part of the magical artifacts known as the Elements of Harmony. I don't ask me any questions, I don't know. The pony's travel.
Starting point is 00:26:38 I'm picking up his new ones. The pony's travel on adventures. Can I kill myself? Yes. The pony's travel on adventures and help others around Equestria while working out problems that arise in their own friendships. Right? Now friendship is magic.
Starting point is 00:26:54 It has not only proven a major success in its intended demographics, like kids, very popular amongst children. Really? Kids got into it. Kids like something called FlutterShark. Not only kids like it, but it also has an unexpectedly, it's gained significant following in different demographics, such as teens and adult males.
Starting point is 00:27:14 What? The fandom adopted the name Brony or Brony, which is a portmanteau of Bro and Pony. Very sophisticated and nuanced. Oh, his brony. Has brony. Oh my god, Matt. Very good. You know I love a Port Mental. And that is a three-part Port Mental.
Starting point is 00:27:33 You got the Port, you got the Man, you got the Toe. I reckon Hasbro is a Port Mental as well. So it could be a Quad. Oh, it's so good. Quad Mental. It's a Quad Mental. That's a Port Mental. I would have Quad and Mento. This is probably one of my favorite parts. That's a poor mentor. What a quiet mentor.
Starting point is 00:27:45 This is probably one of my favorite parts. So they're initially considered to propagate the humorous and ironic concept of people enjoying a show for young girls. The fandom has shown deep appreciation of the show far beyond this and a considered part of a new sincerity trend. What the bloody hell is new sincerity, I hear you are. What's new sincerity? Oh, you actually have the answer, thank God.
Starting point is 00:28:07 Yes, I do. I'll do it in a hurry. I'll let you tell you. I actually wrote down what the bloody hell, what the bloody hell is new sincerity, I hear you are. This is like a story. Well, I'll tell you. It's yes, it really is.
Starting point is 00:28:17 So it generally describes creative works that expand upon and break away from concept of postmodernism irony and cynicism Representing a partial return to modernism. So basically it's from my understanding It means moving away from liking something ironically and actually just liking it. That's so good So instead of being like, oh no like Oh, you like fuck I love this Yeah, is it a weird sex thing? No, I thought it was I've seen a bunch of like my little pony like sex things and it makes me very uncomfortable I'm sure it sure may be yeah, Dave like cuz there's bots on Twitter that follow you and stuff you had those follow you no
Starting point is 00:28:54 No, I think those bots are not really great. I think they follow one of them equation things Yeah, you know the ones yeah the algorithms algorithms And they hone in on people who are into that sort of, whether they know. Recently Googled my little pony six toys. That's probably how it is. Are you being a little fluttershire right now, Dad? Yeah, I am. I'm being a little pinky-pie. It's a bit new, sincerity. You're hating it ironically, but you secretly love it. I'm hating it. Am I hating it? I've got to think about that. Am I hating it? This ironically. Yeah, because you know it's like the cool thing to hate it.
Starting point is 00:29:29 So you're hating it, but you love it. Dave, is that the situation? Do you love it? I'm gonna say yes with a butt. Yes, butt. I don't know what that butt is, but we don't find it. And does that butt have a cutie mark? Oh yes it does.
Starting point is 00:29:44 It's a whale shitting on a dolphin. It's always something shitting on a dolphin. You hate dolphins. Oh they must be pooed on. They must be stopped with poo. Right the blow-o. Oh. Now dolphins are all right. No dolphins are nice. This smart. Dolphins are much nicer than little pony toys. Can I ask? Are these, so there's not a weird sex thing element to this. I think there may be, but it's a very, very small group. Are you thinking of fluffies? No, I would say like, no furry. Furries.
Starting point is 00:30:13 But I think there is like, again, a tiny, tiny group that might incorporate part of my little pony bag. Is it a tiny group of people who incorporate everything in the sex thing? Exactly. I thought Brony was a thing, but it's not. It's not, it's not. It's not a six thing.
Starting point is 00:30:27 No, it's just a fandom of my little pony. Okay. Friendship is magic. Their fans are friendship, Dave, don't shoot them down. I'm gonna shoot them down. I bet you are. I'm gonna shoot them down. Right, so.
Starting point is 00:30:40 The sex thing is a my little Bronies there. They're actually, they're not brony's there. Bownies. There we go. That took away. A little bony. Took away too long for you to get to that. Frenchybiz magic with my little bony.
Starting point is 00:30:53 I was like, hello, buddy. We can do it. You did it. Made a bona joj. Yeah. It's been, I reckon I'm, I'm on a dry spell for bona jokes. Your bona's on a dry spell? I'm on Bona dry.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Yeah. You Bona dry. Joke, Bona Joke dry. Ah, that's right then. So the technology savvy fans, all the beroenies, have created numerous works in writing, music, art, and video, and videos based on the show. You call it art. Yes.
Starting point is 00:31:24 And they've established websites and fan conventions for the show. You call it art. Yes. And they've established websites and fan conventions for the show. They've participated in charitable events around the show and those that create it. They're super involved. What is charitable events? It sounds like an editing. That's the only thing of worth I've heard. You know, is Cecil the go, put this in, he's a brony? Might be.
Starting point is 00:31:44 We should ask him. Hey Cecil, are you a brony? Might be. Hmm. We should ask him. Hey Cecilia, you're a brony. There you go. I'll simply errr. Or a bony. Yeah, you're bony or a bony. Or a pony. There's only two options. Or a loony. So the appreciation of the show by an older audience has came as a surprise to Hasbro. They're like who are these weirdos That was a tweet from the Who are you weirdos?
Starting point is 00:32:12 Stop watching this show for seven-year-old girls. We don't want your money. It's weird. We feel weird sending you the costumes And now it doesn't come in extra extra large, okay? Brandon stop tweeting Brendan It's weird. I know it doesn't come in extra-extra-large, okay? Brandon? Stop tweeting, Brendan. Is this maybe kind of like when mobile phones were meant to be for business people, but the biggest audience, the biggest audience, biggest market ended up being like teenagers and everyone basically.
Starting point is 00:32:38 They're like, stop buying them. Stop it. It's for the sophisticated seven-year-old girl. The nuance. The nuance, seven-year-old girl. The nuance. The nuance, seven-year-old child. And it's funny when things have, like, the internet was meant for the army right. They didn't really see it being in. Or even the computer wasn't meant to be.
Starting point is 00:32:56 A lot of technology is designed for a niche market. And it explodes. Maybe we're all going to be my little brony. Brony's one day. Maybe. No, I don't think that's quite, it's not technology. Anyway, it doesn't matter. Maybe it is.
Starting point is 00:33:10 I don't know, you're telling the bloody story. I am telling the story. Can I continue to tell the story? Please do go. Thank you. So yeah, Kevin's quite surprised to the creators of the show, but they've embraced the older fans.
Starting point is 00:33:20 They embraced it. They embraced it. They hugged them because they thought there's something with you. They thought cash. But they stayed focus on the shows intended audience which was obviously kids. So they didn't just start writing like plots with like adults things going on. That would have been weird. I mean, because the old guys got into it because of how it was already. So it'd be weird to change it for them. They didn't change anything for them, but that's part of why, and I'll explain it in a sec as well,
Starting point is 00:33:45 but it's like, that's why adults got into it is because it was kind of written for adults as well. It's like, you know, you watch, I went and sort of shrek with my parents when it came out and my dad loved it because there's jokes in there for adults too. It's just like that. So that's sort of how this shows written
Starting point is 00:34:00 and that's why it has that. Also, these people are taking their kids to watch my little panties, that how they got into it. Well, apparently, and I talk about it soon, but. Sorry, so Jess, there's many concepts we've brought up on this show, but this is the one I'm struggling the most on this day. You look beautiful.
Starting point is 00:34:15 You are blessed. Your brow has been furrowed for a bit last 20 minutes. He's really flustered. Can't bring it down. I'm getting wrinkles. I know. From furrowing. I know. Really flustered. I'm getting wrinkles. No, no, from me. Farrowing. No, no.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Stop farrowing and start farrowing. What's the horseshoe guys then? Farrowing. Farrowing. Horse shoe. Farrower. Oh, they're called a Farrower. Yes, only puts horseshoe on horses.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Did they make them? They put them on. What do they make them to? Oh, I don't know. They must have made them. They're probably making them. Yeah, they're bang them on. What do they make them to? Oh, I don't know. I think they must make them. They probably make them. Yeah, they bang them out. Is there just like a standard size? What do they have to like...
Starting point is 00:34:50 They make them for the shit. Yeah, I've seen a video at some point and they like they bang, they like put them in the hot thing. It's just like a straight pit of metal or whatever. They put nails in there. And they bang and they, yeah, they can, cause you know the horse,
Starting point is 00:35:04 hooves is like one big toe. And all the other toes are sort of inside it, like these weird little toes, but it's just one big toe nail basically. Okay. So they don't feel, the hoove itself, it's not hurting them.
Starting point is 00:35:17 No, it's like, it's whatever this sort of stuff is. Carroton maybe, so that is, or is that it? I think it would hurt, I probably wouldn't hurt if you put a nail through it. But if it was big and thick Yeah, yeah, it's like it's not skin underneath it like it is fast. Yeah, so I think they used to have like Feet and just over they evolved to have like just one big. I think that's what happened
Starting point is 00:35:36 Question without notice anyway not answer without question That was Farrowing I mean harrowing no it wasn't at all. It was neither that was farrowing. I mean, harrowing. No, it wasn't at all. It was neither. That was farrowing with Matt Stewart. What a close- you side podcast. Talk about the art of the whole shoot. But don't know anything about it. I think that'd be the best. Similar to what we're doing with our podcast. Holiday gatherings are happening. Stack on the sparkle this season with unforgettable jewelry from Blue Nile. Right now, save up to 50% sight-wide with Blue Nile's Black Friday and Cyber Monday deals.
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Starting point is 00:37:48 and they recognised the Browning fandom in official promotional material. They incorporated background characters popularised by a fan into in jokes within the show, so that's where Derby Hoves comes in, and I'll talk about that a little bit more later. But it was kind of like a character that was nothing, and then because the fans reacted so strongly to it, now it's a character. Pretty interesting. I wonder. You know how we talk about in Pass-Up, so it's how important marketing and naming things is? Do you reckon if there wasn't a word like Bronies that it would have even happened? It feels like the kind of thing where people thought this is funny.
Starting point is 00:38:25 But you're saying that no one's getting into this thinking it's funny and ironic. No, I genuinely like it. I genuinely like it. They may start by like, oh, I mean, I guess I'll, but they love it, like they actually love it. Like when I started saying Rigi did jaronically, now I can't stop saying it.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Yeah, but do you love Rigi did? Rigi did, I do. You love it. You say it all the time. R Yeah, but do you love Rijidj? Rijidj I do. You love it. You say it all the time. Rijidj buddy, did you ditch? Okay. It's similar. Yes, it's similar to that.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Being a brony is similar to me saying you're a Rijidj. I'm starting to understand. Now I understand. I'm starting to understand as well. Do you get it? Do you get it based on Matt saying Rijidj. Rewatch Dawson's Creek. Uh huh. How is that like that?
Starting point is 00:39:07 I don't know, I'm still confused. I just thought I'd have a stab. I thought I'd have a go. Hey, that's Riju Digs to us. We love it when you have a go. I thought I had it. I thought I got it, Matt, but I don't got it. Is it like that time when I saw a repeat of a show?
Starting point is 00:39:23 Are these people aware that other shows are on? Oh, it's something that's happened where the part of their brain is shut down where they know that they're other channels. Yeah, we're in the Golden Age of television. How are we really? That's what people say. The Golden Age. That's what people say.
Starting point is 00:39:42 There won't be another age, but Golden Age. And this is because of mad men. And that one with the guy, the Godfellor. Goodfellor's. Godfather. Surprise. The Godfellor. You say Godfellor?
Starting point is 00:39:55 You did. I don't know. He said, can I just do the report? Do we get it? And the one with the guy on the gun and the bald head and the goady. Breaking bad. Dead. Dead. Yeah, beat it better, dead bed. We got dead bed good fellow Mad man remember that one and I'm a little pony and also game of thrones came of
Starting point is 00:40:15 No Throne no, I did not say that he said thrones, but you know how like Hollywood actors now Are appearing in TV right in you city that it's cool to be in TV again now like it's could have been to bronies Is it cool? I think it's cool in that world. I still think like outside of that world No, I like no I reckon the majority of people are being surprised with every word Jess says say I don't think anyone knows about this place, Bernie Town. Population one.
Starting point is 00:40:49 What sounds like there's more than that? There's heaps, there's thousands, they have conventions. Anyway, so as a result of these... And we only have 100 Patreon subscribers. And these people get thousands. Well maybe they'll listen to this and maybe you should be a little more respectful. I love you all. Do burn on do burn on
Starting point is 00:41:08 do burn on As a result of the effort of the show makers, you know, sort of responding to the The wants and the popular things of the fans My little pony Frenchybiz, has become a major commercial success with the series becoming the highest rated original production in the hub's network broadcast history. Right. How many people watch it? I don't know, don't know. Billions. Billions. Is that true? Billions. Billions, billions
Starting point is 00:41:39 of people watch it. And I uncool for not watching this? 100% UIS. Now you're underground. Yeah. You're like cool guy, doesn't want to do whatever what else you're doing. Yeah, exactly. I don't go against the mainstream. I don't want good fella. I don't want my little pony boy. Do you want to hear how the brony's kind of started?
Starting point is 00:41:57 Yes. Oh, is there a godfather of brony's? No. Is it Tony's a brano? Yeah. Tony's a brano. It's brony's a brano. Yeah, Tony it's a brony I said Tony's a brono
Starting point is 00:42:13 So it's a brony soprano brony soprano brony soprano The god of all I really shouldn't bag him out because like they take that guy pretty seriously. Yeah Yeah, well as I would I wouldn't exist for them him He's how it started shortly after the initial broadcast in October 2010 A review was written on animation website cartoon brew by Amid Amiddi Now Amiddi's essay expressed concern that assigning a talent like Foust Lauren fast to a toy centric show was part of a trend towards a focus on profitable genres of animation such as toy tie-ins To deal with a fragmented viewing audience. It's a very, very, very wanky. And an overall admission of defeat for the entire TV movement. Anyway, basically...
Starting point is 00:42:53 Disguise it, running about a cartoon? Yes, so basically what he's saying... I'm good, six-year-old girl. Yes, what he's saying is that... Thank you, I've heard enough. No more questions. What he's saying is that he was concerned that the fact that more and more shows seem to be driven by company executives who want to sell their products That was his point.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Look at any kids show from the 80s from the 90s. I agree. Stop yelling at me. I'm on the side. Power Rangers, Voltron Ninja Turtles, Captain Planet. Transformers. Was this about selling Transformers? They're robots in in disguise though. It's more than... Bumblebee's.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Yeah. I thought just toys. That was the golden age. Before they started selling out and just wanting to sell toys. Yeah. They didn't sell a single pair of engine in the 90s and that's the way they liked it. Yeah, that's what they wanted.
Starting point is 00:43:40 They wanted to make no money for an organization. You couldn't make money. It was a non-for-profit organization. Non-for-profit organization. Now these buddies has proved, come along and they're like, oh, that's make a lot of money. How about we market this to 36-year-old men? So what happened? Yes, Dave. That is what happened.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Well, I don't need to hear any more then. Okay, well, we're done. Again. You made your... Thank you so much for listening. My decision. What is the verdict? There's no question, please. The decision is that you what does the verdict? We do there's no question Pissed in is that power rangers should come back. Wow. There's a movie coming out, isn't it? Are you gonna play one of the power rangers? I'm gonna play Tommy my favorite green ranger green your favorite green ranger
Starting point is 00:44:15 How many green right there because there was multiple ones one green ranger, okay? I didn't meant to send my favorite favorite ranger. It was green. I love you Tommy. Tommy green ranger Is he's a name green ranger? That's convenience and it does he have a cutie mark on his flank? to my favorite Ranger. It was Green. I love you Tommy. Tommy Green Ranger. Is he's a name green Ranger? That's convenient isn't it? Does he have a cutie mark on his flank? Yeah, it's a green stamp. Cool.
Starting point is 00:44:32 The green whale shitting off the door. The dolphin is not green. He doesn't shit on anything that's green. Yeah, oh, of course not. God no, never says this. It's just very eco friendly. He's very nuanced. He's very nuanced. He's very subtle, even though his name is Green Roadshow.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Anyway, so Amir Dmitty's written his essay, Criticizing, oh, so good. That's the best thing about the guy. Criticizing the show. And though the show had been discussed on 4chan's cartoon forum before the essay's publication the alarmist nature of the essay led to more interest in the show resulting in a positive response for the series for its plot characters and animation style
Starting point is 00:45:15 so he bagged out the series and it made it more popular but the weird thing is he's bagging it out because it's got such a talented writer yeah he's like she well I guess yeah she's too good for this. She should be on the Godfather. You bring on somebody like this, and it's just so you can sell toys. It's like, no, it's like to make a good show. But it's a good show. But yeah, that's the point. Everything is selling something.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Every TV show is made to sell, you know, like the TV shows are on commercial TV, basically all of them are made to be watched. And sell a product. Is it possible that Amid Amid Eid works for Hasbro and knew that he, if you posted about it, would make the show more popular? I mean, that's just a brony conspiracy theory that you've got there Dave. I think you're probably a little more invested than you are caring to admit. I can... Bruner's...
Starting point is 00:46:00 Admit Admitty. Admit... I will not admit he, that I am a bit admitted. He's dead. Anyway, so yeah, made it more popular. Now the adult interest in the show is comparable to that of other shows like Tiny Turned Adventures, Rockers Modern Life, Animaniacs, Dexter's Laboratory Powerpuff Girls, SpongeBob. I watched those shows when I was eight.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Yeah, I know, but there's shows that you can still watch, and you weren't eight. Like, I remember watching SpongeBob when I was like, coming home from high school. It was on TV when I'd get home from school. You know, you're like, no, whatever, it's just a good show because it because older audiences appreciated jokes that were aimed at adult viewers
Starting point is 00:46:40 in a sense of nostalgia for older cartoons and animated films. So it's like, there's this cartoon that has adult jokes that I understand that are funny and you know, it reminds you of being a kid watching cartoons. So people enjoy it. Dave, I recently watched the first season of the new Voltron. Or they redid Voltron. Yeah. And is that, do you hate me? Did you enjoy it?
Starting point is 00:47:07 Yes. Well that sounds like nostalgia. So what's his name? For sure that you watched in the 80s. Yeah, maybe, I don't, yeah maybe it was, I don't remember watching it. I just remember the toy. I always wanted to buy it. But I was a child, didn't have any money.
Starting point is 00:47:22 Yeah. I needed my parents. No pocket money for you. Didn't do your chores. That's a bitch. Anyway, so the other thing is that the show reference works. That older viewers would recognize, such as I love Lucy, the Benny Hill show, Big Lebowski, Avengers Star Wars.
Starting point is 00:47:38 Well, a little pony reference, the Big Lebowski. Yeah, it makes references to things. There's something sitting like a bowling alley, so they've made big libousky joke. So they have all these references that adults get, so they're like, yeah, I'm in on it. This is so interesting. So you just watched the big libousky. That's got heaps of big libousky references. It's almost exclusively big libousky references. It's amazing. Dr. Patrick Edwards, who performed several brony studies. Okay, now I thought some the brony people were set. This guy is wasting his life.
Starting point is 00:48:11 He did these studies to survey, to survey, to survey them. He did these studies to lock them in a chamber. He did these studies to survey and analyze the fandom. And he observed that the brony fandom is unlike most other fandoms Which aren't welcoming to people who are different and promote the show's message of love and tolerance So that like they're really welcoming really friendly nice group You're gonna feel like such an ass when I talk about bronis because it actually really lovely. They sound amazing Dave Grow up. They're super nice grow up and become become a brony, like all real men do.
Starting point is 00:48:45 This is super interesting as well. Can girls be brony? Absolutely, they can. There's a different name for them as well, and it's super funny. Okay, so brony is a portmanteau of bro and pony, but it can be used for either, but another,
Starting point is 00:48:58 are there a bro pony or a pony who's a bro? Pony bro. Another term is Pegassista. Oh. It's a bit older female. Pegassista sounds weird. No, that's fine. Like, is it Pegassista's ponies? Sounds like you want someone to peg your sister.
Starting point is 00:49:17 Pegassista over here. Like, up on the washing line. Or peg also means throw something out. Oh, yeah. Doesn't... Peg, peg it at me. No, I don't think that's... Oh, I can.
Starting point is 00:49:33 I can't think that's English language. Anyway, one contributor to the... Dave, can you peg me that pen? That's all I think. Definitely. I'll only do that to my sister. It's weird because you do have a sister. You both have sisters.
Starting point is 00:49:47 One contributor to the Bronie study, Dr. Marsha Redden, said that the adult fans are, this is a quote, a reaction to the US having been engrossed in terrorism for the past 10 years. Yes Dave, Bronies are fixing terrorism. In a manner similar to the Cold War, they're tired of being afraid, tired of angst and animosity and the show and its fandom are outlets for those strife. She compared the Brody fandom to that of the Bohemian and Beatniks after World War II. Yes, the Beatniks after the Fiend of World War II. They're the hippies Dave.
Starting point is 00:50:20 But they wrote literature. They don't just draw a picture of a pony. What's the difference? You show me how that's different. Draw me a picture. Draw me a picture. Tell me what you're saying is terrorism caused bronies. Yes. You have a some a bit larger to think for brony's existence. Well, I think more accurately you could say that brony's fixed terrorism. Well, I think terrorism still exists. No, no.
Starting point is 00:50:54 No, it fixed it. Oh, pardon me. Sorry, my mistake. I haven't checked the reason why. Do you remember that famous photo of a brony putting its hooves down a guy's bazooka don't you remember that? you never remember that you know similar to that? it's on the cover of our time magazine
Starting point is 00:51:10 yeah time time time person of the year was uh pinkily pops one of the writers Amy Keating Rogers um said in a similar similar sort of tone that she believes the fans have come to like friendship as magic due to so much cynicism and negativity out there and so many other shows, well this show has such a positive message. I mean other people just want to be happy. I love happy.
Starting point is 00:51:37 This is also great. You hate it, Dave. You hate happy. You hate anything that causes happiness. That's not true. It is. Would you like bronies? My little bronies? Do you Dave? Dave?
Starting point is 00:51:49 Which the only thing that is able to give happiness in this modern world apparently? David? Don't put me on the spot. Dave, you either love bronies or you hate happiness. Fuck. What is it? What do I love? I just need more time. I need more of Justice Report. I'll come back to you at the end of the show. In my opinion, and with her and I love having it. How have you ever been turned yet? I love. I love happiness.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And the Bernie's invented it. You're part of a cult, Matt. That is you. Jess has already been one of doing this report. You're already sucked in. I am staying strong and I am being... Nutrile. Yeah, you've been a neutral. Join us, Brony. Join us. Join us. Touch the hoof of destiny. This is, this I found very interesting. So two informal surveys of 2,300 and 9,000 participants respectively, revealed that the average age of the adult
Starting point is 00:52:45 fan how old do you think they are? Of the adult fan 18, well adult, so young they'd be the youngest, I reckon 18, 19, yeah six. You say six of the adult fans, you say six of the adults. Oh wait, no that doesn't make sense it was the average age of the adult fans that can't be the lowest possible going, it has to be in them. Are you taking all the children? No, no kids, adult fans. All right, 24. 31.
Starting point is 00:53:08 21. Average fans is 31. Approximately 86% of male, 63% were currently pursuing a college degree or higher qualification. A later study in 2013 of over 21,000 respondents showed similar numbers and highlighted that the majority of fans were in the 15 to 30 age range range So I wasn't listening I had to repeat it back to understand the words
Starting point is 00:53:36 15 to 30 age range 15 to 30 age range between the ages of 15 and 30. That's the range of age. Okay, I think I've got this It's like when I watched Dorsen's Creek again. Oh boy. That's the range of age. Okay, I think I've got this. It's like when I watched Dawson's Creek again. Oh boy. That was my life. Anyway, the average age is 19 and 20? So the average age of the adults, that's 15 to 30. How the whole fucking centred started with the adult age.
Starting point is 00:54:01 The adult fans. Like, as imagine if you made a show of kids and then the average age was 15 to 30, you'd go, what are we doing? What have we done wrong? And then like, bloody good fellows over here is being watched by four year old children. That's really backfire.
Starting point is 00:54:13 The golden age of television is weird. Very topsy-turvy. This is kind of interesting. So further, using the Myers Briggs type indicator, personality test, the survey revealed that the largest fraction of respondents, approximately 27%, fell into the INTJ classification. I know what you're thinking, and yes, I've got the information. So you know of the personality tests. We answer a series of questions and it
Starting point is 00:54:36 sorts you into like one of I think 16 groups. No, I did not know that. Okay, it's a nice pretty old personality test. Yeah, I started to do it and it takes a while because there's a lot of questions and I it was very late at night and I was should all do it. Yeah, I started to do it and it takes a while because there's a lot of questions And I it was very late at night. I was doing this like research and I was like I should probably just do the rest how long I'm gonna take over an hour now like 15 minutes. Oh, we should all do it. Yeah, let's we can do it I wonder if we'd be similar. I've done it before too, and I can't in board. I had a question to are they just a couple? Sort of like Do you play with children's toys? Yes, no, it's more like a grand disagree and then strongly agree.
Starting point is 00:55:08 So it'd be like, you know, um, other people's feelings are more important than this or, yeah. Right. So it's one of the categories bastard. Yes, you're a bastard. They're all like full letter categories, right? So you're either one of two things. So you're an eye or a, what's our? No, I and TJ. So so these ones I and TJ is Intraversion intuition thinking and judgment. It's abbreviation used for this particular
Starting point is 00:55:33 Personality type and this is about it's a psychological test of the Pyrenees. Yes, so The I and TJ represents the mastermind. They're one of the rarest of the 16 psychological types and account for approximately two to four percent of the population, but a huge number of the brunis fall into this category. Right, so if you're making a TV show, you don't want to target them, you want to target a bigger portion, right?
Starting point is 00:55:59 Well, yeah, probably. You want more people watching. But for some reason, a large number of these people have sort of drawn to this show. Now, women of this personality type are especially rare, forming about 0.8% of the population. They're strong individuals who seek new angles or novel ways of looking at things. They enjoy coming to new understandings. They tend to be very insightful and very mentally quick.
Starting point is 00:56:22 But it may not always be outwardly apparent to others since they keep a great deal to themselves. They're kind of more introverted. They're very determined people. They're trusted visions of the possibilities, regardless of what others think. They may be considered the most independent of all the 16 personality types. So I just found that kind of interesting that they, like there's a high percentage of these people in the brony fandom. That is fascinating. It's only two to four percent of all the population. But 27 percent of this group. More than a quarter are them. That's pretty cool. Are they just some sort of geniuses?
Starting point is 00:56:53 No, they're not necessarily geniuses. They're smart. This brings me to the character of Dürpie, which was Cecil's initial suggestion. So the production team have acknowledged that some of the fandom and fan created elements of the show, they've acknowledged them and they incorporate them into the animation, sort of like as a bit of a wink wink nod to their fans, which is kind of cool. Hasbro's priority is obviously just to deliver a show to the kids first, but if they can sneak in a little nod to the adults, then they're happy to do it, which I think's kind of cool.
Starting point is 00:57:29 And one of the President and Chief Executive of the Hub Network, said that they have kept their nods to the fandom to subtle hints. She said, we haven't driven this movement, the fans have, and we don't want to get ahead of that. We want to nourish this phenomenon and not manipulate it. So instead of like trying to make things that they think the fandom will like,
Starting point is 00:57:44 they'll just sort of let it happen organically and then they'll make little nods to that. Does that sort of make sense? Yeah, they're not like being like, well let's change the plot because... Exactly. ...now we have, you know, a 25 year old watching or... Exactly. ...for six year olds. ...they just keep it the same and if something catches the eye of the brony fans and then
Starting point is 00:58:02 they'll go with it. So the best example of this is in the first episode a background Pegasus pony is shown in one scene with a cross-eyed stare, which was actually just a little joke by one of the animators. He'd drawn it a little bit cross-eyed. The 4chan... It's a funny joke. It's a funny joke. Animate a humour. So the highest of all humors. Too high for me. Quite quickly, like 4-10 message boards dubbed the character Dirty Hoos based on the internet slang word DURP. You know? You never heard that before. You never heard of DURP? DURP. It's not a lot of memes. It's basically just like- See I don't really do memes. I find that like-
Starting point is 00:58:38 You're a hundred years old. It's like you've done something silly. A bit silly like DURP. DURP, sorry. Oh DURP. So-, sorry. Oh, Dirk. Sorry. You're such a normy Dave. I don't really do animated humour. Which I actually... Similar to.
Starting point is 00:58:52 So there's a so called memes. The fans sort of created a more detailed personality for this character. They'd name two Dirty Hoves. She was like on screen for seconds, but they just all suddenly just loved her. And apparently, like the production team sort of responded to this and they kept the Derpy character with the cross-eyed look. And she sort of became a mascot of the fandom.
Starting point is 00:59:14 According to the supervising director, Jason Thesen, the team sort of considered the character like a little easter egg for people to catch. Like they'd kind of almost hide her in oh there She is background so ever so it's yeah exactly Um hey guys you see Derpy Yeah, yeah it did isn't just isn't that mountain in the background. I don't feel lonely anymore At the end of the first season one of the shows anime is confirmed that that derpy would be A scripted background character in the second season. So she's gonna be. So she's like a recurring extra? Exactly, basically. Does she have lines?
Starting point is 00:59:47 Uh, she gets them. So in the original broadcast about mid-season of the season two, the show was called The Last Roundup. Dirty was called out by name by Rainbow Dash and given lines and Clotsie mannerisms as a direct call out to the Broney fandom. So like, they've named her Dirty, so they've made her a little bit Dirty. Like she's Clotsie and she's to the brony fandom. So like, they've named her DURP, so they've made her a little bit DURPY. Like, she's klutzy and she's whoops, right? But she's whoops. Oh boy. Do they call it whoopsiehoops? That's a much cooler name. But whoopsiehoops is cute. Though most of the fans appreciated the inclusion of this
Starting point is 01:00:16 character. Some viewers had a negative response to the character, believing it insulted the mentally handicapped, because like they were calling it, she was a little bit clutsy and the voice that they'd given her was not great if that's sort of what you were picking up on it. So it wasn't good. And so Hasbro subsequently modified the scenes and while Dirty is still present in the broadcast and in the show, she's not named and a different voice is used like in later episodes. So they don't call her, they don't call her derpy that she has other names like ditsy or ditsy-do and muffins Three different names. Why don't you have three names? I don't know and can he so she can't like buy a toy of her or something No, you can but it wouldn't be called derpy. I don't think so what we called whoopsy
Starting point is 01:01:05 No, they be called didsy-do and whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy whoopsy who didsy do, whoopsie. Whoopsie, Daisy. But, see, they do. I think it's one of those things where they do call a dopy, but like Hasbro's kind of like, no, we didn't name her that. I don't know. It seems like it was a little bit of a mess. So, but there's been other non-speaking background characters that have caught the attention of the fandom and have also had expanded roles because of it.
Starting point is 01:01:23 One of them had a really big bona. It got attention. It did. But not a good attention. But not a good attention. And there's a female unicorn pony character who has neon colors where sunglasses and has a DJ mixer that briefly appeared in one episode. She sounds like me if I was in pony form.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah, totally. And the fan's name to it. Wicked you, wow. The DJ, the fans named her DJ Pony, like Pony, but with her three. And then the fans of the show nicknamed a male character with a brown coat, messy brown mane and hourglass,
Starting point is 01:01:58 cutie mark, he had an hourglass on his butt. They named him Dr. Hoves. Cause he looked like Dr. Ho. How Because he looked like Dr. Hoof. How do you look like Dr. Hoof with an eyeglass? Because he was wearing a brown coat and he had a messy brown hair and he looked like David Tennant. And, but it was a pony. It's a pony.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Does it look like David Tennant? Who's side of you on? I'm not sure. You were being good cop. See how man, we're really spot roles here. Because I am so unborder this. I would really like to. I would look like Dr. Hoofves, I live for him. Dr. Hoves sounds cool. I would really like a tattoo of Dr. Hoves' She-Ting on a dolphin. All of your tattoos have
Starting point is 01:02:34 something she-tting on a dolphin. It's weird. Fucking dolphins. I'd like to finish with some fun fax if I may. Yes please. We haven't had fun. I thought you'd made more excited. We have fun facts and edges. Yes, please. I'm excited. The excited? I'm so excited. Okay, so on December 26, 2011, an article appeared in the New York Times. It was called Navigating Love and Autism. It was by a journalist called Amy Harmon and described how a young woman with Asperger syndrome used my little pony characters to relieve stress. So she visualized the character, the character Twilight Sparkle, whenever she found herself in a bad mood.
Starting point is 01:03:11 So the story was sort of about that, but the fun fact is that the story misidentified Twilight Sparkle as Fluttershy on initial publication, and the paper issued a correction, which some journalists have jokingly considered the best New York Times correction ever. They're like, we sincerely apologize that we... So they may have...
Starting point is 01:03:29 We've just identified... See, that was going to be a beautiful story, and then the behind the scene is that people emailed or tweeted the paper saying they had the wrong character. You said Fluttershow when I think you mean Twilight Sparkle? That's just a real under good story. It's pretty funny though. There's a couple of famous fans, by the way David Tennant. David Tennant. Ricky Gervais. He's definitely into kids stuff.
Starting point is 01:03:54 There's a Broadway actress and singer, Lena Hall. She stated that she watched the show as it makes her feel super happy and appreciates the lessons the show teaches. as it makes her feel super happy and appreciates the lessons the show teaches. She considers herself a pegassista. She won the 2014 Tony Award for Best Actress in the Musical and she ended her acceptance speech mentioning the show's subtitle, Friendship is Magic. And over four months after her shout out at the Tony's, she announced on her Twitter that she would be a guest star on the show's fifth season. Like this show is being made now. Still going. What? shout out the Tony's she announced on her Twitter that she would be a guest star on the show's fifth season. Wait this show is being made now. Still going.
Starting point is 01:04:27 What? Dreams come true you guys. Where would you see it? I don't know the internet. My favorite though, my favorite celebrity fan. Oprah. Bella, some one we've heard of. Yes.
Starting point is 01:04:41 I haven't heard of that love but she did sound great though. Big sets are really big one that you like. Australian. So I've heard of that love. She did sound great though. Yeah, great. Big sets are really big ones that you like, Australian. No, I don't necessarily. It's just funny. Is it Obama? Stop guessing. Can I just tell you?
Starting point is 01:04:51 Matt have one guess, I'll be fair. Give me a country. America. Give me a gender. Male. Give me an age group. Oh, good question. 50s.
Starting point is 01:05:03 All right, I've got one. Give me first name. Billy. All right, I've got my first name. Billy. Give me the second name initial. B B T. Not. Who is it? Billy Bob Thornton. Billy Bob. Billy Bob Thornton admitted to watching the show during the
Starting point is 01:05:22 set. It was a celebrity with GQ. He and his daughter, Belly used to watch my little pony, which she eventually grew out of. And when she was searching for a series to watch again, they came across friendship as magic, and they started watching it together. He also liked the show's positive message about how the world works.
Starting point is 01:05:38 And he also claimed that while his daughter's favorite character is Twilight's Barcle, his favorites were Fluttershy Who he said was his favorite because she talks like Marilyn Monroe and Rainbow Dash. He's a rainbow Dash fan, but he's daughter really likes Twilight I like that, but it feels like he's not a brony. He's the dad of a fan of the show, but he's also a fan of the show Don't shit all over it. Can I ask you again? No, I'm not saying that against you. I'm saying that's a different thing to a 22-year-old who's got no...
Starting point is 01:06:09 I did say famous bronies. I said famous fans of the show. Right. Okay, so you wouldn't say he's a bronie. I wouldn't say he's a bronie. You wouldn't say he's a Billy Bob Bronie. He's not a Billy Bob Bronie. A bronie Bob Pillon.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Having looked at the characters, do you know who your favorite is? I have not looked at them properly. I don't know. Let's say Rainbow Dash. A rock and a twilight sparkle might be like the big one. She might be like the big famous one. Yeah, Twilight Sparkle is the main character.
Starting point is 01:06:31 I reckon I've heard of Twilight Sparkle. You? Probably Fluttershyle, Pinky Pie, right? Pinky Pie, I couldn't remember the name. Obviously. I'm Applejack. Applejack? Well, Jess, thank you very much for that topic.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Thank you Cecil for suggesting it. Thank you, Cecil, for suggesting it. Thank you. Hey, thanks, Jess, for doing it. I've always, because I've heard of Bernie's, someone told me about him last year. Yeah. We were in a show that talked about him. Were you in that scene?
Starting point is 01:06:57 What show? Oh, no, I wasn't in that scene, but I know that I'm assuming you're talking about the show that we were both in. Yeah, so Dave was also in. That Dave was day was also in. Under the Milky Way. Under the Milky Way. Did they have a brony reference? There was a Sam Peterson. Oh yeah. He was a brony in the show. I might have been in that episode. A brony. Yeah. God love Sam, one of my people on the planet. We were all in that show. Never never shared a
Starting point is 01:07:24 scene though. Never shared a scene. Oh, that show. Never, never shared a scene though. Never shared a scene though. Oh, I'm not not, I did. I never shared a scene though. Oh, we shared a couple actually. Have you seen it? Yeah. There we go.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Yeah, great. I asked to not share a scene with you. Oh, that's interesting. Because you're both of you are. You're probably one of my favorite characters of mine actually. Thank you. But both of you are famously seen Steelers and I would not have done it in my watch.
Starting point is 01:07:43 No, I did share a scene with that and he destroyed them as in like in a good way. He stole it. That's what I mean. He stole it, murdered it. Well, I don't think Dave was joking. We definitely are seeing sort of fucking your characters very funny. You're saying you, Stolett. Stop, let's just stop.
Starting point is 01:07:58 Let's just. Yes. I think we should. I just think so. Yeah, my arms are getting tied. So it's called under the Milky Way. Well, maybe we'll share some scenes from it. That'd be cool.
Starting point is 01:08:07 Sure, yeah, they'd be nice. We'll tweet out some, some actions. It's one bit, or I yell, buggy smugglers. Adam, out of context. Look for it to that. That is sizzle. But I will be honest and say that I thought the brownies. I thought the brownies was a sex thing.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Yeah, and I'm sure. I really thought it was as well. So maybe that's why I was a little bit negative. I'm sure in some cases it probably is, but I don't think it's not always. It does, it sounds like it's a really positive. Yeah, I feel like you. I feel like you.
Starting point is 01:08:33 You just, that feels like you gave that the puff-peaf. Puss-peaf. Oh. Puss. Puff-peaf treatment. I do. What? Were you a bit gentle on Cecil's? Because it's a big, I think it's a big Cecil thing.
Starting point is 01:08:47 I think he's a quiet idiot. I think he might be a brownie man himself. Just fine. I'm not saying it's not fine, Jess. Just saying, did you go soft on brownies? No, not at all. I genuinely was researching and I was like, these people sound kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I'm not gonna shit all over people who are doing things that aren't hurting anybody and are making them happy. Fuck, what a monster. That's my job. Yeah. All right, I'll accept your apology. Well, before we wrap up the show, we have to say a big thank you to all our Patreon supporters.
Starting point is 01:09:16 We brought the show this week, as I often always do, keep it running. And if you wanna get involved, it's patreon.com. So let's do go on pod. You can get extra rewards, including go on pod. You can get extra rewards, including an extra episode. You can vote for Matt's topic. You can go into the golden hat like Cecil did and we can report on your topic. And of course we give you a shout out at the end of the show as to say thank you. And we're going to say thank you
Starting point is 01:09:39 to one person each now. I would like to say a big thank you to a person who's a long-time supporter. He does it every time, it's so good. He's been a long time listener. I couldn't lay for him to do it. He loves the long episodes. Oh boy. And he loves me, the long man, warmly cute.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yuck. I'd like to say thank you to Stephen Long. That was a real stretch. Yeah. He's doing it, he's doing it. I'm just looking at his name, because it's like a small L long. Maybe it's Stephen Yonge, a capital I. I think it's probably long.
Starting point is 01:10:17 Could be Stephen Yonge. Well, if it's Stephen Yonge, go and make a silly joke again with... I think you've got to do it again with... You've done fuck. He's been an E-Yonge this time. An E-Yonge supporter. And eong supporter. And loves the eong man, one key. Yeah, eong man, interesting.
Starting point is 01:10:30 It's Steven. And they're still here somewhere. Eong. Oh, very good. Thank you, Steven. Thank you, Steven Eong. I'd also like to thank a friend of ours who kind of, he auditioned for a role as a Batman villain.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Really? That's true. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, he did, but they went for somebody with a slightly different name because you actually have to, like when you, when you're a Batman villain, it's your real name, right? So you have to have a Batman villain type name. Right. So I would really like to think, even though he failed at that one job he went for, I'd really like to thank, even though he failed at that one job he went for. I'd really like to thank Robert Riddell, like the Riddler.
Starting point is 01:11:10 Oh, the Riddell man. It's so good when you have to explain it to Robert. Robert Riddell. I'm just cool like Dave, but I can't do it. I should just say thanks to people. Robert Riddell sounds like he could win an Academy Award. Big time. The Academy Award goes to Robert Riddell for the My Little Pony movie.
Starting point is 01:11:26 They've swept the awards ceremonies again. Oh, finally I was actually I was the way on holidays recently. I know over New Year's when I had the bug in me. Yes. The place I stayed at it was like an airbnb. So someone's place with the DVD collection. In that DVD collection My Little, no it wasn't a DVD it was a board game. It was like it was the double you know trouble that pop a mad at game Yeah, it was the my little pony version. Wow. That's what was a fun story
Starting point is 01:11:57 I enjoy that I also used to play the game trouble In primary school so suck it Fuck head. That's right, just two out of three of us enjoy that story. I'm assuming Matt enjoys. No, oh, bloody hell, that was tedious. One third of the show enjoyed that, Matt. Hey, thank you.
Starting point is 01:12:15 But it was the good third. The third that Matt is the most. No one cares. Hey, you know who I'd like to think? Really great person and also human being. But on top of that, good friend. And human. But also a person. Oh my God. His name, it's hard to tell because of obviously that capital L, small L capital I think. Oh no. But I'm going to have a stab and say thank you so much Lan Astelosh Now Ian Astelosh is he's been he's been
Starting point is 01:12:56 What a bloody legend thanks so much Ian he's he's always on was on the Internet and I think we might have done one of his topics. Yeah, rings a bell. Because he's a fucking legend. As always, so you can get in contact with us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, at dogoonpod and all of those at dogoonpod.gmail.com. How else? That's probably it. That's about it. Double line, send us a message.
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