Two In The Think Tank - 69 - John Wilkes Booth

Episode Date: February 15, 2017

John Wilkes Booth, you know him as the handsome actor from a family of handsome actors, but did you know he has a dark past? That's right, the heart throb you keep a poster of on your wall is a COLD BLOODED PRESIDENT KILLER. He killed Abraham Lincoln, yes, THAT Abraham Lincoln: the star of Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure, Abraham Lincoln Vampire Hunter and his auto-biographical film Lincoln. Join Jess and Dave in class as Matt talks about some of these things and MORE!Twitter/Instagram/Facebook us: @DoGoOnPodEmail: [e-mail] the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodCome to our Melbourne Comedy Festival shows in April: www.trybooking.com/OJIV  Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Now is the time, mycomputercareer.edu. you. Hello and welcome to Do Go On. You're here with me Dave Warnocky and I'm here with Matt Stewart and he is here with just a poking. Yes. I'm here with you Stewart and he is here with just a Perkins. Yes. I'm here with you and you're with you with me. Yeah. How long with you? You've been along with me.

Something. You're my sweet. Hi. Guys, how are you? All right. This week's topic. No, let's do chit chat. I will have a quick nap.

One number episode is this. Oh my god, I totally forgot. It is episode not 67, not 68. Next week's going to be 70, so that means this week is episode 69. Okay, someone tweeted in that they are hoping that before the episode 69 do, hashtag keen for pain and hashtag keen for vajee. Don't like that. You don't like that?

No, I don't like that. I mean, it's better than other options. Or to Pichet too. You like pain, but not Vajin. Because what are you saying? Yeah. Well, it's good. Let's all go around and state which we prefer.

No, that's a- To have. What? As a topic. As a topic. Who I did not like as this has started. Dave, you're being very silly. I know you're excited about 69. I know I am.

It's okay, everyone. I think every week I'm just amazing. We're doing it. We haven't missed another week. It's amazing. We're doing 69. Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

We're doing it. Big time. Contractually obligated. Oh, it takes the fun out of it a lot, doesn't it? Yeah, totally. Oh my god. No fun with a contract. 69 has dinner for two, but that's three of us. Okay. Oh, yeah, all right Well, I don't know that recently. Yeah, that

The only doubtful calling is comedy festival show dinner for two. Oh, that's good Which means 69 would you not have got that? I didn't get it until it was explained It just sounds like two people going out for dinner for two. So that's why it works on a few different levels. Two. Dinner for two levels. Roo-la. What a topic. Yeah, so what would you, you don't know what the topic is,

obviously, Dave. But pretty sexy topics will put up to the vote. Oh, that's right, because mats topics are always voted on by our Patreon. Every subscriber gets to vote on his Topics Matt. Yes, to be honest, I did not put two seconds of thought into it being a 69 episode. It doesn't excite me as much as it does Dave. You know, it's a very funny number, like you always say, I agree.

69. But I hadn't really thought about that one. There's only one number that's funny other than 69. That is 2469. 269. 2469 is the boring way to say it. If you want to get down to business,

if you want to have dinner for 2469, that's funny. Now I see that. That is funny. Actually, restaurants should put that up like as a special two for 69 But also that's in a slightly little small bracket And then also they're making 69

Oh, yeah, okay, we could we could chat to some of our local Edaries. Yeah, there's a few eateries around we could go and pitch it But I'd like to sell that idea. I want money. Yeah. Oh, well, how much will we sell it for? 69 there we go. Just since just I reckon we'd sell it for dinner for two Well, they've been getting a better. I mean well really if we the three of us went out for dinner It'll be dinner for two and Dave. Yeah, exactly. I'll have a half an on trade please He's a little man. Yeah, I can't eat I haven't eaten.

Ever. Never. I've never seen you eat. I've seen you sit with food in front of you. I've seen you eat like a pelican or a seagull. She's like, oh, I'm gone. Oh, oh, oh and say hello like a normal person who runs into a friend at the beach but I decided to dive bum you and steal your chips. It was kind of funny but do you know that? Do you know that guy by gas Dave?

I was like oh okay that's a pretty funny prank then because you didn't know that guy would have been arrested. That didn't be penadol and I my head exploded. Yeah sorry about it. Very weird. Weird for a man that still chips who can't even eat them. He just doesn't want other people to. Exactly exactly if you can't have them I can't No, the way

If I can't have them you can't now if you can't have them I can't okay, that's the deal I say to someone we go up a dinner you're allergic to nuts. I can't have them. Oh, that's nice. That's sympathy That's nice for them. Yeah, good for you. Simpathy. It's a bit patronizing Matt for example, is there something you don't need? Not only everything how about parsnip mate. Yeah I don't eat pasta, but I don't eat mate, but I part from that great. Well, you can't have it. I can't have it That's nice the deal. So you don't eat meat or pasta, Sam never Thanks, they've saved one in the world.

That's not just when... It's not the time. That's why I'm sort of stuck in this. I'm not like a modern mother to raise it, but I'm starving to death because I've sort of painted myself into a corner. Yeah. Yeah, I may not wonder if there's anything that everyone eats.

Chips. That's why he's doing chips. That's why your chips. Okay, got it. Can I imagine I'd be able to eat chips? Fuck that. Oh my god. Fuck it. I genuinely fuck it up. Fuck it right off. Well, if you can, I got it. Can I imagine I'd be able to eat chips? Fuck that. Oh my god. Fuck it.

I genuinely fuck it up. Fuck it right off. Well if you can, I can't. Hey, last week I was on the weekly planet. I'm doing plugs for podcasts have been on. People should listen to it. Yeah. We did plan it last week.

We talked about lots of like a superhero geek culture stuff and some of our favorite universes. And crossovers. universes and crossovers. I love crossovers. How did you go? Do you think you... Can you talk about, sorry, just because it was a crossover between this podcast universe and their podcast? Yeah, I can mention that as well, yes.

Very cool, sorry, just, please go. Did you think you, you know, kept up with, because they're very intelligent. Ah, they're very intelligent. Look, I was, I was treading water for a lot of it. That's okay, it's easy to get you out. But they were being very gentle on me. I think they were well Look, I was, I was treading water for a lot of it. That's okay. It's easy to get you out. But they were being very gentle on me. I think they were well aware that I was a noob.

That's good. Well, that's very, very cool. And we have some exciting news relating to the weekly planet. And the boys over there, we have joined their podcast network. We're in a network. Yes. It's called Planet Broadcasting. And it also features...

The filthy casuals? filthy casuals. Two in the think tank, which is recorded in this here studio, which I was on, I've been on a couple times, if you want to look that up. Funny stuff. Good stuff. Good stuff.

And also, the weekly funnel. Obviously. Ah, no, it's really cool. Someone, I did Tweet about it a couple of weeks ago, and someone asked the question, or maybe on Instagram I said, so what does that mean? And I didn't reply because I'm not fully sure. I think it means we're part of a gang.

Yeah. Exactly. We're in a gang now. We bash other podcasts. Yeah. We bash them. Watch our green god letters. Which is another podcast.

Another podcast obviously. It's a great podcast. It's almost a medics obviously. It's a great podcast. It's almost a native explanation. But it sound like. It did. Please explanation. Well, it's, no.

Hey, I've got a question for you guys to kick off our topic this week. Interesting. OK. Great. It's just a straight up this, the, you know, normally my question is a bullshit. This one's just a question.

And you have a good chance and I reckon Dave probably definitely knows and I reckon Jess probably definitely knows. But the answer is the topic. Look, I don't know if you definitely know but I didn't want to sound like an asshole just because Dave knows everything. Thanks for explanation man. Okay. Question is, who was the first American presidential assassin? Oh! Is that Mr. John Wilkes Booth. It is. Very good. John Wilkes Booth. John Wilkes Booth. Sorry, Jess. John Wilkes was a

boxer assassin who assassinated him with his large freak breasts. Yes, so you know the story, it's almost not worth telling. No, I only know the bare minimum, which is, yeah, double-expert, fault theater, A round like it, and so that's pretty good. Just what do you know? Top hat. Yeah. Sweet chin strap.

Didn't see them. Oh man, I watched a couple of documentaries about it. And, you know, I think of it, like Lincoln was one out with the chin strap. There's a lot of characters in this who look like Abraham Lincoln. There's other Chinstrap's or little godi bids. Like a lot, bids are in, mustaches are out in the mid-18 hundreds in America apparently.

Right, so it's not actually like a strong look for him. It's just a pretty average look of the time, but he's just the most famous figure of that era. I think so, I think that's a big part of it. But also, yeah, he's also a huge, I didn't realize how tall he was. He'd be tall for today's standards. He's like six four.

Yeah, very tall, yeah. So back then, he would have been freakishly tall. So why did he put the hat on top of that? I know, come on, mate. Well, it's like tall women, we should be. He also wore still it is. So it feels like it was really, I was weird. He made himself a very easy target, to be honest.

It was because it's classically easy to shoot someone in the head of their head is six feet four of the round. Finally enough, he was there was an assassination attempt I think at one point and they shot through his hat and he survived. No, that's what it was for was like a trick hat Yeah, you never know where his head is. Yeah, they were thought well He's heads probably just that big and he's discovering're gonna like crusty how he actually has normal size feet And he wears big shoes, but when he was framed by such a Bob such a Bob actually had Big feet or whatever very interesting Simpsons point great We're gonna get a Simpsons reference in every episode

So I just wanted to tick that off early to be the other way round He'll do Tismic him with small feet and such a Bob with That's what I said. No, sorry crusty with small feet and Taja Bob with that's what I said. No, sorry, crusty with big feet Because he was pretending to be crusty because such a Bob was and they stepped on his foot and he anyone how But crusty's just a normal anyway, it doesn't matter to really gets got big fate almost positive But you should know better than me. So I'm Also doubting myself John Wilkes Booth's old man wasius Brutus Booth and the English Shakespearean actor are born in England London that's a strong name Junius Brutus Booth. It is a strong name. Junius

Don't know how to spell that Brutus of course that very famous Shakespeare character. That's well. That's so as bad as that It was named after and what was that character? Brutus from That's well. That's so as bad as that. So it was named after and what was that character? Bruce's from Julia Caesar and what did he do? Well, he stabbed Julia Caesar assassinated in the forum. That's right. Sassan added a leader. So that's just coincidental. That's very pretty. Just stab Brutus for main girls Beautiful. Thank you making Shakespeare cool again. Yeah Prada John Wilkes birth.

Instead of John Wilkes Booth. I didn't even intend that, but that's how it's been written there. But I put a capital B on birth, so maybe it meant me. It was later night. Just to emphasize it. Prada John Wilkes birth. He was, Prada John Wilkes Booth's, John Wilkes birth. He was married with a child in London. This is Brutus. All right. I was going to say, I thought he, before he's birth, he was married with a child, which is incredible.

Yeah. Some people just start early. And yet we talk about how we killed a president, which in comparison would be nothing if you were married to the child at birth. Also a shapeshifting, uh, demon. Uh, in 1821, so did that. You just said 18, so 19. Didn't fuck it, I got reprogrammed. You mean 17.

Well, there's a hundred out. He immigrated to America with his mistress, Mary Ann Holmes, abandoning his wife and son in England. Oh, so he left John and walks behind. No, this is prior to his birth. Oh, sorry. That's why I wrote that prior bit. But as I was writing him like, this is is gonna need explanation. This is horribly constructed sentence anyway

Junius quickly became the most prominent actor in America was and went on to have a successful 30-year career there Wow, I'm until he died He did have some issues. He was an alcoholic and that obviously had some negative effects on himself and I was a bit Also some positive when he was drunk He felt good. Yeah, he felt real good sometimes sometimes I assume early on that putting words all like you're in his mouth Be how to now long dead But yeah, I'll try in

1835 a junior's wrote a letter to president Andrew Jackson president at the time and He was asking that he pardoned two pirates. Sure. Which I love. Dean, President, please pardon. I got a couple of these pirates. I think you should. In the same letter, he threatened to kill the president.

This is the dad. So did he ask for the favor first? He asked for the favor. He asked for the favor first. But both. Apparently, you later apologized. And they were friends. So some say now that it was just a bit of a muck about. Oh, okay. Just have a little bit of friendly bit. I will kill you.

Makes me look very good. I look quite small at the time. He goes over there, instantly becomes the most famous actor, writes a letter to the president, then their best friends. Yeah, it does seem very strange. I think they were already friends. How does one look for a president? But the crazy thing to me at the time, so back then, White House you could just wander, anyone could wander in. The population was way smaller, and it was just a much freer place. You could probably would bump into the president down the shops or whatever. It would be like the mayor today, you know? I bumped into the mayor of Melbourne on a pub crawl a couple months ago.

Robert Doyle. Yeah. What was he doing? He was there just at a pub. Was he part of the crawl? No, he wasn't, but I invited him in. And he said. He said, good on you guys.

We had a photo. It was really weird to me. I kept calling him Mr. Mayor. Did you like it? I don't, I think he thought I was a weirdo because I was definitely being, I was trying to be funny. And you were also, but it kind of in a way that he couldn't possibly be in on the joke.

And who, you were also a bit drunk? Oh, but you know, it was only the fourth or fifth pub. So a bit drunk? And you also recourse it in. It was like 17, like relatively doing pretty well. Yeah, but still, when you're first meeting with him is the fourth or fifth pub to him, your drunk. But he's at the pub he's at the

first pub presumably and also we requesting that he pardon some cars yes I was that does make for an awkward conversation he KB three his life yes and then did you shake hands because your friends were friends I don't know about him Doy Doyle. Sometimes he says good stuff. I like how everyone wants to keep Melbourne open and not signify it by closing up the night life and stuff. But then he also is pretty messed up in some of his beliefs about, you know, rights of people and stuff.

Yeah, so I'd probably take the rights of people I'd like. Being able to go to a bar. He likes, how many likes. He likes Malamban out of party. Yeah, but I'd like everybody to be able to party. Yeah, that's true. All right. And how does he feel about those pirates? I think he's pretty hard on the pirates. He's not pro-pirant. I'm very pro-pirant. So am I. Pro-pirant. Yeah, yeah. Look, I'm going to say yes to pirates. Yeah. 17 years after moving to America, I wrote, 17 years after moving

to America, Junius and Holmes had their ninth child. That's too many kids. And his name was... Gary. No, John Wilkes Booth. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Gary Wilkes. They had another kid after that, but yeah, he was the ninth of ten. My mum is one of nine, so I feel like I'm qualified to say

too many kids. Was it, did she say that too? Yeah. My dad's one of 13 or 14. Oh. That's also a lot of kids, but it's meant for, you know, for a lot of family around. So much family, it's great.

I know there's definitely pros and cons. Do they know what was causing it? Ah! John, can you have said that? I've heard you said that recently. Oh, I heard you say it. I think I said it last week. It makes a go about and was shackles it or something like that.

Great. Very funny stuff. Good stuff. What was that talking about? Yeah, anyway. It was born on the 10th of May, 1838 in Maryland. It's the land of Mary. And he was raised on the family farm with his siblings. So his dad's an actor, but they got a little family farm as well. The family farm was tended to by slaves. That's a kind of a key thing I guess. He grew up with slaves, saw that as a bit of a right of the white man to have black slaves. Are you pending this assessment and quite a negative light here?

Yeah. I mean... And probably Julie, so I'm doing this. Bruce attended the Milton boarding school for boys Of which he was one and he described he was described as being Desirmingly handsome from a young age I've seen photos of it Definitely attractiveness has changed in the last 150 years because he's just look

He looks like a kind of weird guy with a bad mustache. But anyway, apparently at the time that was good. But disarmingly is such a good way to describe the fact that you would hold a gun to his head and then see his face and just want to put it down. Yeah, and you do put it down. Wow. And also he's wearing a mustache going against the times. That's interesting. Maybe that was sort of like the freedom-loving north. No moustaches. I don't know. No, he's all right. OK.

Jess is Google, can you show me, Jess? Yeah, he's a bit of a right. It looks like a bit like a, like in a film adaptation of his life, Orlando Bloom may play him. He looks like, um, oh yeah, he's got a bit of, I don't get the Orlando Bloom. You don't get the Orlando Bloom in that? No, I get, I don't, I get it.

But I don't really get why Orlando Bloom is a heart will be though. Looks a little bit like young Albert Einstein. Yeah All right, you're talking about a lot of nice people this guy's a relatively bad guy But I mean we haven't got to yet. Well that is that he enjoys slaves You know which pub will you at the theory of relativity bad That guy. Yeah. Okay. He made his acting debut at 17 in the role of Earl of Richmond in Shakespeare's play, Richard III, or Dick the Turd as my dad, like the call it when he chuckles to himself. Very good. Dick the Turd.

Dick the Turd. Is that a comp? I imagine that is not his joke. No, I've heard that before. But he, I remember as a kid, him, and probably may being very amused by the idea. I think your dad made it his own. He did.

He put a little delivery. It was all a delivery, yeah. So apparently he had talent. And he was soon in Heiderman to tour the country performing the works of Shakespeare. It looks like everything with it. Like a lot of it was Shakespeare back then, which is weird.

We've moved on, obviously. So much so that I've read that he was the first actor in America known to have his clothes torn by fans. Like he was like a real pop star and I, wow. I'd hate that. Don't have your clothes ripped off your back. Yeah, never want us to get that famous. Man, I'd hate that.

Don't you like Jess? But don't be then just to imagine't been just imagine okay close all turn off understandable. Thank you very much But now what am I gonna wear? They are they think they hand you clothes as well. Oh, it's like a trade better clothes Better clothes. It's always an upgrade. Okay. Always upgrade. Oh, I'm so sorry. I had no idea You started a tracksuit and by the end of the day you were tuxedoing all day long our money Our money. Our money. They're wealthy fans. Cool, okay, sorry I didn't know. No, no, I mean that's something to keep in mind.

I mean don't let them tear them off if they don't have a coat hanger filled with some sort of designer duds. Sure. Duds means clothes. In the 9, oh fuck. In the 1850s. Oh fuck. In the 1850s, both became a member of a group called the No Nothings, Jell-O.

Sounds like a group you would be a part of. The name originated from the secret organization of the party. What? That's another poorly worded sentence. But it was like a pretty secretive organization, right? Like a gang. It'd been organized pretty pretty secretive organization, right? Look again. It'd been organized pretty secretly. No good, how I explain that.

So apparently the story goes that a member was asked about near a platter, no nothing about how that all worked out. Oh, none of that. And the name sort of stark, right? And in 1855, when the group ran for parliament, they named themselves the American Party. The American Party, better than the no-nothings. Yeah, although something about, it's funny, because there are definitely parties in Australia at the moment that are getting a popularity that sound like they have similar ideas,

only with different targets. But the movement was started out of fears that Irish Catholic and German immigrants were threatening America's way of life. Sure. I love it. It's like, anytime, America's way of life. Sure. I love it. Like, anytime there's always groups of scared people who think that are afraid of whoever the other is. And it's just funny to think now Irish Catholics and Germans, it's like, it's harder and harder to, just a further you go back to, like they really, the racism was so specific.

Yeah. Now it's just like, it's color of the skin back, then that to look deeper than that. Wow. So in some ways, we've made them better or worse. Better.

Yeah, they had it more people then. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, they ate a lot of people. So, yeah, it's for better racists back. But it's an interesting thing because it like that is not gone away in humanity, you know. People being afraid that others are coming in and ruining our thing that we've got because this, oh they're they're going to ruin what we do, you know, like, and it usually is not. Well, someone said that when

we joined bloody planet broadcasting. Yeah. They're going to run it. We're going to run these guys out of town before they run up on cars. We may do that too. I'm not saying it's not always true. Definitely in some podcast cases. Maybe it is true and fear is justified. Membership of the party was restricted to Protestant men only, which is pretty specific now, but I guess that was sort of, again, it's funny, like now it's like Christians grouped together, but back then, even there was splits in Christians, like we like these kind of Christians

on those slightly different Catholic ones. And one of their main angels to limit immigration into America, so he was sort of, he was a bit of a zernaphobic debag, kind of guy. Right. Through the air. Hey, luckily we've moved on from that zone.

But I don't know. It's funny looking back at these backwards weirdos. I know. So who are anti-immigration? Like I'm so happy to be alive in this day and age when none of this happens anymore. That is right. It's just so nice. You get up on your high horse and you laugh at history.

How we mistreated each other. Never again. We've learned. We've learned. We've learned. How about we just? 150 years. Stuff changes so much.

But have we, I mean, have we, I mean, have in the Irish and the Germans ruined America like he was worried about? We certainly have. Yeah. In a numerous ways. They ruined it. Coming on a country I don't live in. Yeah. In a numerous ways. They ruined it. Coming on a country I don't live in. I'm happy to do it. Anyway we are getting off

topic. Through the 1850s booths acting career went from strength to strength. I don't think I don't think it was super public about how we were like I don't know if it was that publicly political like he'd join that party but that was a relatively secret organization. I don't think, but I may be wrong, because he was able to cross from the north to the south, and he hung out with people everywhere, you know. And he used that to his advantage in the civil war. He sort of went undercover for the south, and hung out with pretty important people in

the north, and almost like a double agent sort of thing. He's interesting. He used this fame and stuff. So people was very well-known guy, very recognizable face and... Is that something in these days? Because his acting career was going so well. Of this time he's been described as being the hand-sumist man in America. And also a natural genius. And...

Is this on John Roxbury's dot org? Yeah, yeah, he wrote, this is all in his diary. Did I, I am a handsome genius. Love Booth. Towards the end of the 50s, he was becoming quite wealthy as well earning around 20 grand a year, which today's over half a million a year. Whoa!

That's like almost as much as I make. Yeah. That's podcast money. That's podcast money. Wow. Davey you, Rich. Hey. I don't like to label it.

I like to call myself accentically affluent. Yeah. What a life. In 1859 he joined a Virginia militia to assist in the execution of John Brown. Have you heard of John Brown. He was a member of the abolitionist movement, keen to get rid of slavery. But he believed that the only way to do it was through violence. through violence. Wait, Brown did. Yeah, Brown did.

How violent towards whom? Armed the slaves get, make an uprising, you know. Holy shit. Yeah, so Brown let her raid on the federal armory at Harper's Ferry with the intention of starting a liberation movement among the slaves there. Wow. Bokin, in that, seven killed and and others were injured but his plan was to arm the slaves with weapons But unfortunately, oh, you know make your own judgments on that the plan unfortunately for him I suppose the

plan look I'm Talking myself around and not here. I Obviously save he's bad. I'm not 100% sure if the right way to go about it was Arming the sides. I don't know. I'm not sure. I don't know enough about it. My gut reaction is that doesn't seem like a nice plan because then it's gonna be more death. Yeah, but there's someone about it that sounds pretty awesome as well. It sounds very, it sounds like a John Cawd Van Dam movie. Maybe more, no, maybe more of a Steven Seagull.

Yeah, under siege too. Yeah. One is on a train or a bus or something. That's a subtle difference between Steven Seagull and John Clawed Van Dam. Yeah, yeah. But it's there. It's subtle, but it's there.

Well, only one of them had a successful blues career and pretty sure. Successful being relative. Yeah, Dave. Dave. Yeah. The plan failed. I'm so sorry.

I take a look back. He was captured and tried for treason against the Commonwealth of viginia as well as the murder of five men and inciting a slave insurrection insurrection he himself a slave can you pronounce that right for me please i'd i'd they

insurrection great that's what i said was john Adams himself a slave no john brown was a john brown sorry john Adams is the Great, that's what I said. Was John Adams himself a slave? No, John Brown wasn't either. John Brown, sorry, John Adams is the second. John Brown was a white man who just, you know, because the big split in America at that point, I guess, or seemingly was people who believed slavery was the right,

and the people who thought, that's not what America about, America was about freedom. That's what it was. That's not what America about. Yeah, about freedom. That's not what America about. Yeah. Hey, that's Logan. I'm putting it in the words of the day. Yeah, that's how people say that.

That's just using old English to describe the situation. That ain't America about. About. I talk good. So yeah, he was found guilty on all counts and sentenced to death by hanging. So that's when John Wilkes Booth went along with that militia and stood there protecting the hanging. They were worried about other abolitionists coming to try and free ground. So he was there at the time so I'm getting hanged. And he was totally for it, but he did, and he, he

was glad he died and that sort of stuff, because it was, this is everything he was against. But he did kind of admire how Brown just copped it. He's like, uh, dead, tough, tough to out sort of thing. And also, I also read that, um, he sort of appreciated how he just, he went after the thing he believed in you know But imagine being glad that someone was dead. That's a weird that's such a weird thing There's lots of people that I disagree with haps. Yeah, I don't think it's ever good But I wouldn't be like half ding dong, which is dead. Yeah, all right It's too hard to be thinking about such every mention that it's still hot in Melbourne.

In the summertime, who would have thought it? It's so hot in the studio. Stop it, February. I feel like I'm emelting my energy levels. I could just fall asleep. In 1860, Abraham Lincoln was elected as the 16th president of the United States. Soon after, Booth wrote a long speech making clear his support for the South and of slavery, but apparently never made this speech publicly.

He's right, man. What did he just look in the mirror and say it? And that's a speech? Yeah, I wonder if he had any thought at any stage, because in the end obviously didn't care, but maybe at some point he's like, this won't be good for my acting career, like choosing a side publicly, but he was so passionate about it. So why would he... I'm not sure, or maybe thought, maybe thought I'm more valuable when people don't know.

You probably just wanted to keep making money. Making money, but also he was, you know, been there when the war started, he was, you know, going to double age and that sort of stuff. Oh, yeah. So you can't really do that if you're very clearly going, Lincoln's fucked. Yeah. Slavery is the best. And the next month you're like, hello Abraham Lincoln, I'm very happy to be your assistant.

Yeah, what do you want to tell me about your tactics? The following year the Civil War began with 11 states seceding from the Union. In Maryland, where Booth was from, they decisively voted against leaving the Union, but they also voted to not allow federal troops to pass south by their railway. Right, so they're like, we're not succeeding, but we're not going to help the north, or we're trying to say neutral, I guess, but their state was a very key route for the North to get down to the south and it made the war almost unwinnable for the North or made it very hard, difficult

for them to get a win there. So by them deciding to not allow them through by rail they basically forced Lincoln's hand in some ways I mean you could argue this or not but he suspended the writ of habeas corpus imposing martial law and parts of the state which allowed the imprisonment of many of the political leaders of Maryland basically without a charge. Yeah, trial by jury, that kind of thing. Yeah, that means, right? So it's sort of taken away their rights of quick and fair trial, which meant that they could go on, they could use the trains, Chuchu. Booth and others saw this move as a little unconstitutional,

which, to be honest, this is really it. And that's the thing. Not that I'm super familiar with the constitution, but it does feel a bit like, I'm happy to, I'm using the law as long as it favors me and then I'm going to. Yeah, is it all right to ever do that? I think to take away the rights. Is it the end stuff?

The end stuff? Yeah. It's the means it feels like it's a tricky one. Yeah. Because it's like, that was for the fight against slavery. I know, but at the same time, when you start doing that, then where does it stop? Exactly. It doesn't protect you in the long run. In 1862, Boothmaid is New York Debu in the lead role in Dick the Turd, being as Dick the Turd. He was the Dick. He was the big dick. He was the dick. He definitely feels like he could play that role

The role of the dick Richard that's also a bit of an evil conniving character being described at the time in the New York held as a veritable sensation He achieved national praise as an up-and-comer and in the days leading up to the Gettysburg address in 1963. President Abraham Lincoln attended a performance of the play The Marble Heart at Ford's Theatre, which I've mentioned earlier, in the play John Wilkes Booth played the villain. So he saw him play a villain?

Yeah. And it was called The Marble. So he saw him play a villain. Yeah. And was it called the marble? It was called the marble heart. Marble heart. And according to author Harold Holzer, during the play, Booth directed many of his villainous lines toward the presidential box where Lincoln was sitting. And I can get tell.

And well, apparently, this led to Lincoln'sins companion which i think i read was a relative but anyway telling him he almost seems to be residing these lines to you and the president replied he does a pretty sharp it doesn't he apparently we did and then everyone else said

shhh shhh fucking watch the show since it's a fortune for fuck apparently linkin was paranoid about his death affair bit. He said a few times that if someone wants to kill me, they will. And especially if they're willing to give their life for mine, there's nothing really I can do to stop him. So he didn't have, like, he keeps the security and that wasn't necessarily common at the time anyway. People could walk in another White House and he'd go to public events a lot. He often went to the theatre, he found that there's a bit of a refuge during the Civil War and

and sort of just a place to I guess to get away from it all. Get away from it all and have actors yell lines at you. Wow. Um, oh I dog! Is he talking to me? Oh Lincoln you dog! Okay that one fell like that. I've seen this Shakespeare before and I've never heard this line before.

Oh is anybody called Lincoln in this? Lincoln you fucking dark! Yeah yeah president Lincoln sitting up there wrote AAB. I'm talking to you! I'm in like this heart. I don't know if that would be like good of a seat. AAB. That's not gonna be that good of a seat. A, A, B. Don't let me. They've gone to the A so much.

It's A, A, A, A, A, A, B. Yeah. When Lincoln, get back in the box, you dog. A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A, B. What? This is the head seat. It's the seat. A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A, A, B. B. I read and heard multiple historians say that despite going on to become a cold-hard killer,

I'm sorry about the spoiler. Booth was not a madman. They reckon he wasn't like he was a psychopath or anything like that from what I read from some say. But it does seem that he was clearly a white supremacist and yeah it really hated the abolishing of slavery. That was one of the big things he didn't like. And also he didn't like the government having more power, the federal government having more power like they were trying to do. It's interesting because there would you do you know what party

Lincoln was a member of one of the current ones Is it shifts the other way that he was a Republican? He's a Republican. I was gonna say Republican. Oh my god Always trust you got damn it. It's gonna say Republican. I was like I'm gonna sound like an idiot I won't say I'll just say I don't know. I don't think yeah I don't know if you necessarily sound like an idiot on that one Fuck another country's ancient Political history. I don't know if you necessarily sound like an idiot on that one. Fuck. So now the country's ancient political history, I don't know. I said, yep, fuck. Good point. field with plenty of growth opportunities and often flexible work environments. Go to MyComputerCoreer.edu and take the free career evaluation.

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the best country in the history of the world was the United States as it existed before the Civil War. Historian and Booth-Bographer Terry Alfred says. And then when Lincoln came along, he was changing that in fundamental ways. So this is what was kind of pitching to him. He's making America great for the first time. Sure. Or whatever. Despite clearly being a bit of a fuckhead, Booth was known to commit a few acts of heroism according to Alfred, saying that one time on stage he saved a young woman who's dressed caught on fire having wandered too close to the gas footlights.

I mean the show, she's in the show. Please keep your hands within the seats at all times who are unsafe. Like this fucking idiot. I don't know if that necessarily makes you a hero that you helped someone who was near you, you have their dress on fire, I guess. Yeah, he wasn't like a, he wasn't a scared guy. So he wasn't a coward. Yeah. Well, he didn't see fire and run away.

He did the bare minimum of what you do and someone is on fire. Yeah, but that, he tried and put them out. Alfred, Alfred calls that a hero, isn't it, anyway. I feel like Alfred's dedicated his life to him and probably tries to get a little bit of good out of it. Yeah, I guess so. You got to look at Alfred.

Fun some darkened shade. Darkened shade. Oh boy. In night, oh fuck me. In 1865, Bruce became involved in a conspiracy to Kiddnapp, President Lincoln. So this is a big plan.

This is his plan. Yeah, he wanted to Kiddnapp him. This during the war and the north were on top in terms of manpower. The south had a lot of southern prisoners. South had a lot of northern prisoners as well, but free men left to fight. The north was ahead and they said no to a deal of swapping prisoners because they had an advantage if they didn't.

You know, they were starting to wear down the South. So his plan was to kidnap Lincoln and use Lincoln as a pawn to trade for the release of the South's prisoners, the Confederate prison. Ah, well, it's a big card. He's like a ransom. Yeah, exactly. Booth in the set a group of six southern sympathizers, one of those being Hardman and Confederate Army veteran Lewis Thornton Powell, who had been a prisoner bit escaped, and he took on the alias of Lewis Payne, who seems to be often often I like it. It's the most under the radar name that I can think of. Lewis, man, man, pain. Lewis, I've got a gun pain. Definitely going to kill the president pain.

So he seemed to be a rough guy. But I'm not going to kill him. I'm going to kidnap him. So I've really thought I'm off the set. But I'm going to flick pain. So I'm going to call him pals, often people call him pain, but I'm going to flip pain. So, pal, I'm going to call him pal, often people call him pain, but anyway, pal was connected to the white power movement directly via his cousin. The white pal movement.

Confederate General John B. Gordon, I was going to call him John B. Goodman. John B. Gordon, who is also the head of George's Ku Klux Klan. Some of the people in the group at this stage included John Sorat, a 21 year old confederate spy, and his mom Mary Sorat, who are in the Maryland, Tavan, and a boarding house that was used as a meeting place by the crew, amongst a few others. Boothgang of confeder Confederate operatives and sympathizers set themselves for the kidnapping in March

1865. In Washington, D.C., they knew that Lincoln was due for a visit at this hospital. And they took up the position on the road on the way to that hospital. What do I mean? Good back in those days. Like, we'll go by the road road the only road that gets to one road But unfortunately their plan failed as Lincoln changes plans late and attended another function instead use the other road There's like, oh well, there's nothing we can do about and I would have waited

Well, the year is like three. I'm like Joe he's coming That's a boring. Booth attended the White House around a month later, where he saw Lincoln give a speech. Lincoln's got a hue boil. I'm going to be quoting a little bit for now on, has said that Booth was enraged as he listened to Lincoln talk about how black men should have the right to vote

as well. So not only get rid of slavery, but also make them citizens basically. Real humans. Real humans. Wow. And that does grand this gears. Really pissed off booths.

What? What do you mean? That's the opposite of what I want. Ugh. You know that stuff. I feel so little sympathy for this guy. Yeah, I know. Well, you were calling him a babe before.

You've finally done. I never wanted to do with his- Have you turned on him? From when you loved him before. Sounds like he turned on you. Thank you, it's not going to be fun. We believe the booth made up in his mind about the assassination on that day. This is still old mate. Oh, that was the day he was like, I'm not going kidnap him. I'm gonna fucking murder him. Apparently he turned a pal at that or pain pal. Turned a pain. I'm gonna call it maybe I'll call him pain. Turned a pal and said, sorry, what's your name again?

Yeah, was it pain? You're changing it. It's very confusing. Can I just call you Louie? Can I? Not. Louie Louie. But apparently turn a pal and said, that's the last speech Lincoln will ever give. Oh, creepy. And and then and pain said button

It's very loud here and he's like well, that's not gonna have the impact of the head of the first time is it fuck? Don't worry about it, Louie. Oh Two of these one of these Louie use them in that I'm pointing at my ears Two miles and one a year is that one that was pointing I'm pointing at my easement. Two miles and one a year? Is that what Matt was pointing at? It was two miles. So the new plan, and this was, this was put together pretty quickly within a few days, was to kill three of the big dogs in the Lincoln leadership team.

One of those being a Lincoln. It sounds a bit like the new plan might be just not letting him do speeches anymore. Yeah, he's gonna. That'll be the last speech he ever does. What are you gonna do? I'm gonna take his mic. I'm gonna turn his mic for him or forever. What you kill him? What? No!

What? Oh my god! It's crazy! I'm not a murderer! Turning his mic for me. I'm an audio technician! I'm an audio technician! Turn the mic off.

Turn the mic off. That'll piss him off. No, it'll hear him. It'll be great. He'll still talk, but no one will know. Back now in the 1800s, there's only one mark in America. And I'm the guy who looks after that mark. There's two roads, one mark, everyone knows that. Oh, two roads, one mark is a great show title.

Two roads, one mark. Yeah. It's just a picture of you on the cover. Here, Chichen. On the microphone. Yeah, yeah, great. Look out for that in 2018. So during the 72 hours after he made the decision to

assassinate on April 11th, Booth, organized Powell, guy named Alsterot. That's not a name. He's terrible coming up with aliases. I'm playing's yours? Astorot? Okay. Just take that it. All right George, George boy and David herald. Dave George. And who's there? They're gonna take it at the top three. So is that like A. R. Ham and his right hand. Ah, so yes, I'm getting in that now. So Booth was put his hand up for Lincoln and his plan was to the Ford Theatre. was put his hand up for Lincoln and his plan was to the Ford theater uh... pal was gonna kill or pain was gonna kill secretary of state williams sued

at his home and i saw that apparently a booth went to the his house and just wrote it there's a note that the sort of photo of it just said uh... you know this is uh... john elksbeth famous actor. Just wondering if you're gonna be home Cheers basically really yeah some of that and

Asteroch was to kill vice president Andrew Johnson Wow, they're all gonna happen at 1015 exact same time synchronized your watches and the idea that was so that you know if they killed one then obviously the other ones would be be I do that was so that you know if they killed one then obviously the other ones would be Be pretty good and but also be notified notified and ready to You know they might have more guards or whatever more than none of the exact same minute Wow Oh shit on five seconds late Well, it looks like he lives. I bought the plan. I've read this in different ways

This happened at different times either before or after or during he was at the theatre. But according to Boyle, Boost stopped in at a salon. Boost stopped in at a saloon. So long. He's had up then. He got his hair done. Quick trim. Then he got a drink. Got his mustache work. So that's sort of stuff. Can you say quick trim again? Quick trim. Quick trim. Quick trim, sorry, all right, great. The words you actually said. Yep, I'm doing very quick trim. I just stopped in for a quick trim. Just a little bit off the top and the sides.

Oh, I'm in, I'm in. I feel like I'm gonna hate that question of the hairdressers. So what can I do? Obviously they've got to ask that question, but I always just say, make it shorter. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. Just take it all back and on.

Oh, and they ask you these questions like your some sort of hair know. Just take it all back and I'll be the same. Oh, they ask you all these questions like you're some sort of hair expert. Do you want it to blend into the fade or you're happy to have this bit here? And you're like, I don't fucking know. They make me look slightly less shit. My three haircuts a year old, I go to a mate and I just go look at Truster mate, just don't make it look fucked. And he goes, but apparently, you know the fashion has been for the last couple of years around Melbourne, especially in a city Melbourne with guys, it's like that

real short cut around these sides. A bit more dramatic than you and not a fade or whatever you just said there. Is that what the fade is? I think, yeah, so it fades in. Blend, no blend, right? Just a hard line. Oh, yeah. And then a bit longer on the top. And he was talking about what he does 90% of the days. He does that haircut and he's like I don't like it but I'll you know he'll do mine differently or whatever as you can

tell pretty good haircut. I don't have that. I don't have a haircut because I haven't had one in about six months but he goes they ask for that they always describe the same thing and they take minutes to describe it and he's like yeah yeah and he points to this photo he's got on a frame on a desk of birth from Bert and Ernie on the Muppets. Yeah, that's what you want, isn't it? And then he's like, they always sort of sheepishly good.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess that is pretty much it. That's great. That's so good. It's so brutal. Bert, every time. Well done. You want the Bert.

He just taps it. I guess. So he had like, there's all sorts of like hair magazines that he could take out And get the proper. Yeah, but he's like you want bird you want you want to look like a muppet me Let's him talk for like three minutes, and then yeah, yep. Do you want this? Oh? Fuck yes Basically that's fucking bird my hairdresser is my sister-in-law, and I just go to her and go fix it My hairdresser is my sister-in-law and I just go to her and go fix it And I wish I could just tell it I reckon you can if you go the right person

You just need to go to a regular person just go you know, I trust you do whatever. Yeah, I just wear a hat All the time anyway, it doesn't really matter. Maybe so wearing hats Your hat looks your hat hair looks great I'm really you've never looked better that video on your YouTube channel with long hair is the worst. And you've progressively gotten better since then. And now I can't even... As you should get better. But I can't even... I cannot even... you are a different that guy and you. I've never seen someone improve that much over 10 years.

Thank you. So this... Well... Imagine how bad it looks before. No, I know what you looked like and it wasn't that bad, but what a lovely thing to say. So just sorry to say. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, how am I looking? I look, I don't see booth, but I do see Warnocky. I see it. I get it. When people say disarmingly, handsom day of Warnocky, I say that. Oh, big time. You'll put the gun down for me. I'll put, yeah, lay down your guns, baby, and surrender. That's what I do.

I would know what I would have a gun. What? Before Was not a cut in the in the saloon salon bar So you got a quick trim but also a drink so one of those ones where they cut you here and give you a beer Apparently normally drink I think you normally drink gin or some of it happened on this now for some reason out of whiskey sure Special occasion unexplained why as to why but he had that apparently according to Boyle, someone recognized him there as the actor, John looks good. Oh.

And said to him, No, which is, I, John looks pain. Apparently, and I never believe these things. It's like, when was this noted down? No one's recording all these conversations. All these things that Lincoln and the booth saying, yeah saying he did look sharply at me didn't he like when was that like recorded anyway whatever I am apparently he said the the guy reckoning said you're not the actor your father was right just a fair

burn and apparently he said in reply when I leave the stage I'll be the most famous man in America Wow, so he's not a just saying I'm about to do something pretty big Like kill the president when I leave the stage. I'll have killed the president Fuck I set it out loud I said a little too much. I was meant to say some mysterious Only I got and I'm chuckling away. Oh no, no, hang on the bit I was meant to send my head, I sit out loud and the bit of...

Oh no, I can't. Can you forget the hands? Start that again. Say the thing about me not being as good as my dad. Say that again. And the official biographer in the corner taking all these notes down is like, this is a pretty juicy story. Thank God I want to tell the president.

I want to tell him. No. It's only going to be a juicy story if it actually comes true. Like that Twitter account that's tweeting, making predictions about Beyonce being pregnant, Trump being, winning the presidency. And then some people are now just saying, yeah, probably just predicted like 10,000 things and deleted everything that didn't come true.

If it did. Yeah. No, it's not. So around 930, a booth arrived at the rear engine. Do you mean 830? I haven't taken it. Do you mean 1830? That 930.

What have 830 would have been funny a day, but no, it wouldn't have been. No, it wouldn't have been a day. No, it wouldn't have been a day. No, it's not a day. No, it's not a day. It's not a day. It's not a day. So around 930 PM booth arrived at the rear of the theatre.

See, some people said he went through the theatre earlier, went to a a bar and that's where that other thing happened. It doesn't matter. Whatever. I'm not 100% on all these details. Is anyone here for the fine details? Sure, everyone. Okay. Getting weirdly defensive when neither of us have said that he's all looked at you in different ways. I'm talking to Adam. I got a question. I got a question. Did the barber just tap the photo of Ernie? He tapped it. That's it. I'm gonna go kill the president.

Then we get an Ernie haircut. Ugh. Yeah. Very similar though. Ernie was big at the time. That's why it's come for 150 years. It's come from the whole way to Ernie. I thought you'd fucked up but you were being clever.

I'm so sorry. He definitely wasn't. It definitely wasn't being clever on any level. So he arrives at the Thea at the rear entrance, right? He's got a horse which he's just picked up apparently horses were hard to find at the time But he got this one-eyed horse who apparently was very quick and they got what? Sorry, you just apparently he's right to the theater went to the back door It's now his own a horse now the horse has got one eye now the horse is hard to find what's going on?

But I didn't say any of those things you miss heard all of those just slightly, but that's fine Anyway, he's got a horse right. He's ridden there and has one eye back door apparently got it one eye because I think because I All being used in the war. I guess this one was Probably dishonorably discharged for only having one eye probably honorably whatever I did only have one eye So I wasn't in the war the dishonor of having one eye. I think look that's what I understand anyway Shut up. Okay now good on you and anyway, so he gets there and he's friend, right? Cause he's a, he's performed with a serotic nose everyone there. Of course.

None of them are thinking, oh what the fuck is this? It's not a joke. It's not a joke. But he's not on that night. But he's like, he calls out to his mate named Ned Spangler. You're shit. He goes, hey mate, come out here.

He's like a carpenter and You know works at the bloody joint, but he's meant to be you know working on the show So he comes down he goes hey made a need you to hold my horse right needed hold my horse. He's like Can't hold your fucking horse. I got a work on the show, right But he boots in and he so Spangler's called another dude Guy who apparently his nickname was Peanut John, I guess he probably sold peanuts, real name boroughs, in the theater,

Peanut John loved that. Anyway, he came and he held the horse, Spangler went back to work, whatever. So Peanut John has a lot less to do. So Booth's in. Well, the people have got their peanuts. He's done until interval. Everyone got their peanuts? How can I help you?

From there he sort of he's in the theater right and he sort of weaved his way through under the theater through side doors He knows it back to front basically and he finds himself behind the presidential box In his hand he's got a gun with one bullet with one eye Yes, and he's also he's got one eye. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, the whole at the top. Great. Just one of the...

They all had one eye at gun. It wasn't true I've guns had changed that much. Okay. They hadn't. But I mean, now you'd probably have one with multiple bullets. And multiple eyes. They put in a lot of... It's very dramatic to just have the one.

Yeah. Like, you're really backing yourself. So why? He knew this play back to front, right? And he knew that this very funny line was coming up. And you went and happened and it was the big laugh in the show. So on that, he went in knowing that they wouldn't hear him open the door and go in. Under the cover of the big laugh, which was some bad pun joke or something that I didn't

get. I did the act of fucked the line that night. No one laughed. He walks in. And everyone turns to work said he had. He just got a gun. I'll come back. So I can see you're busy. Yes, sorry. I'll come back. What's this? Nothing. Tell the sun is right behind the president. He nuts. That's not your job. He's being up John. Walks right up to him. One bullet

back of the head bang really and he's down Pandemonium in the theater when they the people are realizing so here the bullet Lincoln's wife he had his her hand in his apparently but I mean these are things that who knows how accurate they all are but apparently so she knew straight away something was wrong like her husband was dead and he starts squeezing her oh my god he starts squeezing her. Oh my god, he's squeezing it so hard. I think he's just been shot in the back of the head. He hits the deck. And the all hell broke loose. People are squealing. His wife's screaming.

Someone saying, the president's been shot. President's been shot. There's a doctor, young surgeon, 23 year old guy in the audience. He rushes up. He checks. He's not breathing. He's dead, right? If that's a resuscitate him then he puts his hand on his head, sort of feel him through his hair until his fingers go into a gaping hole in the back of the head where he finds the wounds and blood gushes out and the present comes back to life. What? So I guess some blockage or something happens, I don't know about science and shit or medical stuff. He's back alive.

What? He's like, sit up. He's sort of like his heart starts beating again and that sort of stuff, you know? Oh my God, I didn't know that. Everyone, like the doctor and others in that stage. So maybe like today, potentially, could say medical science could have saved him.

But at that stage, they're like It's two full on it's a big Bullet the bullets lodge behind his eye He's in a lot of strife right but they're like this is not the place room to die so they pick him up and Take lift him up take him out onto the street and they're like we've got to find a bed from there's a hotel across the road And the hotel is these what's going on? He goes I've got a bed come over here. They take him up stairs. He's got a heaps of it. He's got one presidential suite luckily.

Oh thank goodness. And they put him in the bed and he lives for a while has a lot of visitors come through. No. Never comes to. Right. But he's still you know he's still technically alive. People get to say goodbye, that sort of stuff. For the next day, he dies. Wow. Oh, I had no idea. I just thought it was good night. Yeah. And did the people at the theater get a refund?

Yes. Yes. That would be pretty good. Did they really? I would doubt it. But apparently, they were pretty upset about it. Yeah, and so that was because the show is on Yeah, exactly. And so that was... Yeah, because the show was on the...

They don't know how it ends. They don't know what back to front of the books. I mean, that did. They got the big laugh. Yeah, that is good. A couple of thousand people just stoked at the same time. Just cackling. Oh.

Wow, I didn't know that. At the same time. Yeah, where's John Wooks gone? Uh, okay, yeah, great. All right, you want to know that? Sorry, you want to know that? No, no, no, good point Lincoln was he couldn't get he asked like apparently like a bunch of people to come with him that night His wife was feeling a bit ill. She got my grounds a lot

I wasn't kind of keen to pull out of the plans but Lincoln the war ended just recently Lincoln was feeling really good He'd had a date a date afternoon with his wife. They went out in a car ride She was like he he seemed like such a big weighted lifted, she was really, they were loving each other's company and they felt like, you know, they got through her. Obviously a tough time, the war was coming to an end, it was, some say it was over, there was some fighting still going on,

but it was basically over by this stage. And so he was keen to go, basically celebrate his head down a bit. She was kind of keen not to he couldn't take that off. He wanted to bring he wanted to go with some others, but he couldn't know him was no one was up for it. Imagine that. Yes, we have the president wants to hang out with the president. Imagine the president not being able to find someone to hang out with.

But at the last minute he found a couple. One of them was an army type. So this guy was sitting there as well He grabbed books books Wow John works booth by the boots. I hate so shot link in the back ahead. Salmi man grabbed him by the jacket Booth pulls a knife out of jacket and shoves it through Army man, so I don't know his name, sorry sir, through his arm above the... above his elbow, so I think, below shoulder, above his elbow. And pushing him against the wall, blood streaming out. Booth goes to jump from the balcony, which is sort of over the stage, under the stage.

Oh wow! Army Mance grabs him by the jacket, so he jumps a bit off, but it's like a 12 foot leap to the stage. Holy shit! It's a big jump. So, so, Booth lands on the stage, sort of hurts himself, but I guess there's a adrenaline that would be fucking going through the roof of that stage. He just shot the present. He'd be flying for now.

He hates and he just totally disagrees with so much so he killed him. And he goes sick Semper Taranus. Just as a Latin expert to be. Oh yeah. Translate for him. So what was it? Sick Semper Taranus. Un-unwell spider Taranus. Taranjana. Oh my god that doesn't seem to make any sense in the situation but I- He said thus always to tyrant. Yeah, I thought I meant I guess he's calling Lincoln a tyrant and this is how spider

He runs runs out the back horses way in from jumps on with a broken leg scopes town. He's out. He made it away. Peace Pooose Right, so that's that's booth he got away out of a crowded theater like that that all happened and then obviously It's peanut man just being like what the fuck yeah, I guess he would have been all right See yeah, I'm Johnny nuts. So at the same time take that as a no. Oh, I see next week Tell you what was nuts. The happenings in the theater just now. He's got no idea what happened He goes back in anyone anyone wants some nuts It's a bit of a conmerction in here.

Third act did not go well. Two for one. Everyone's screaming. So Payne and Harold got to the home of Secretary Suid. Oh, you're the other guys. So they wanted to, at the same time, 10, 15, they were trying to as well. Harold waited outside with the horses. That was a slightly better plan.

So finally that he, Booth was just by himself even though he was kind of in this minigang um And pal went to the front or pain went to the front door with a gun and a knife He just pushed his way into the house went up to the stairs and Just started stabbing away apparently what and kept missing. No. He got disturbed by sewer the sun, Frederick. Paul tried a shoot of pain, tried to shoot him in the head, but the truck didn't fire. He tried to shoot the sun or the... So he beat him across the head, no the sewer. All right. He also fought with a nurse and a daughter. It's all gone wrong.

He did slash the Secretary of State with the Nath though got him in the face and he was bleeding and he got him pretty good, but he didn't kill him, right? Whoa, and this is the guy that's at the front of the horse going. It doesn't sound like he's going well in there. But I'll still wait here. wait apparently Harold ran away he was like fucky shut himself and he he won't let go away with the horses do you legit do himself I think you legit religion religion really did pain and who recorded that the official paragraph is wife when she did bloody laundry check your pants oh this is going in the diary they've got them and they're still at the on display at a museum So pain, apparently was just like

what the fuck? And he was wandering around town and he slept under a tree, sort of slept rough. And he, oh, because the guy ran out on them. Yeah, the other guy. So that one was not a success. He's a any, he's ended up surviving recovered. It could have gone either way, I think, but he came good. The other one, George Atsterot, I had a gun. He went to the vice presidents where he was staying. And, but he, or he bailed.

He chickened out sort of, he couldn't, or he the chickened out or decided he didn't want to do it or whatever. But he bailed. He chickened out sort of, he couldn't, or he the chickened out or decided he didn't want to do it or whatever. Wow, but he bailed. He bailed on it. So that one didn't even get close to happening. Wow. So.

Now John Wilkes gonna feel like a real idiot. I really think it was hard to tell that it was like a real idiot. It's the one that stuffed it. Yeah, true. Pain. More so than John Wilkes, both. Booth got away. He was, I mean. I feel like I'm gonna wrap this up

quickish, but anyway he got away. He was out of town. He was in hiding for a couple weeks. Wow. He started writing his diary. He asked for some newspapers because he thought he's like my bloody hero. Yeah. At least to the south. I want to be seen as a hero here got the papers Was disappointed to find out that he was almost universally Negatively received Got a bad review. Yeah, I'm gonna handle a bad review, huh John. I know what that's like At the other time he killed the president got a bad review. Yeah, I was like a fuck off two stars

That was at least three. He was a good murder. Fuckin' hell. Other people involved in the getaway, including there was a doctor, a doctor Samuel Mudd, I've read, like his relit, his ancestors are still sort of say, he didn't know what he was doing, sort of, but others say that he ate it

and abetted him on his getaway. So whether or not he knowingly did that, is that for some debate? Right, right, but it was a pretty famous story, Amazon. He's just killed it. A famous actor has just shot the president. It's likely that he's shooting Donald Trump now.

It'd be huge for him. Yeah. Yeah. I was thinking about that, you know, like what happened with this, like, you know, people hate Trump. People love him. Like Lincoln. I don't, do you think people, I reckon there would be people who'd be celebrating Trump's

assassination. But I don't think, I think like we're talking about before, that's not good for democracy. No, it is. They can't be the answer. And people can't celebrate that. Even if you fully disagree with someone. And I guess that's how people would see it. Again, it would be similar to this and the killer. I thought we all hated Trump. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like, yeah, we hate him, but we just wanted to not be in power now. We want to be in power now. Next time for someone else to get more votes. Yeah. What can be said, there'd be a lot of think pieces about the topic. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Why you should feel bad about Donald Trump's murder. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, oh yeah. Why you should feel bad about Donald Trump's murder. Yeah, yeah.

So funny how many, these things going waves, where it would be like people going, yeah, fuck you, and other people going, hey, that is not right. We overdone it, and then think pieces about the think pieces going. Look, I think we, I'm just going off how Star Wars was received anyway last year. People loved it. And then they're like, I think you jumped to pass Star Wars was received anyway last year. People loved it. And then they were like, I think you jumped to the conclusion that it was a great Star Wars movie too early. On reflection, here's what's wrong with it. Now the people are going, I think you've been a bit harsh on it.

You're trying to be the... Then there'd be a think piece comparing why Donald Trump's murder is similar to Star Wars, the Force Awakens. That would be a bad feeling I think. He was the five reasons. Yeah. He was eventually found. There was a shootout.

And even though the instruction was to get him alive, he got killed. The guy killed him said he was a really, really just guy. I said God told me to. He's like, don't, you won a really really just guy said God told me to He's like, don't you want me to kill him? God told me to kill him and God overrides the chief of police I'm pretty sure he does so that's why my but is it if you want to speak to Put him on I should probably say the name of the guy killed him. It was God union sergeant She's this H-Crest. Okay, Boston Corbett. He shot him through the neck. Oh.

Bruce survived. God told me to shoot him through the neck. Bruce survived for quite a few hours, but he died. Much like a kind of painful death, I guess, you know. Madison wasn't great then. As God would have wanted. Medicine to not be great back then. Yeah, I think yeah Otherwise, he would have made it great. Yeah guys Check south So there was a massive Investigation went into it took Harold in the custody the guy you know the guy ran off rested the guy that put himself

How pain yep as to rod the guys Pretty much they got everyone who was involved from the start. They'd saw it all as being one thing, the initial attempt to kidnap, all the way to the murder. That was all one plot, as I was saying. Mary Sarat, who owned the... Oh, yeah, the hotel where they had a meeting. Did she get in trouble?

Yeah, Dr. Samuel Mud, Samuel Arnold, Michael O'Locklin and Edmund Spangler and Edmund Spangler, the guy who goes, I'm working on the play, I need someone else to grab the course. Oh, shit! He got in trouble. Yeah. For giving him a one-eyed horse. Yeah, well, because he knew... He didn't give him the one-eyed horse.

He knew he'd... He knew he'd... He knew he'd... He knew he'd supposed to hold the horse. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry. He also saw Booth early that night. He was seen, like, at first they thought it was all an inside job the actors in the play that night were under suspicion and held Holy shit, but Spangler said the guy who said I can't hold you. I've got to do a job. Yes He was he can trouble. He was arrested and found guilty. Oh my god. He was later pardoned By the next president, but but he already spent time in jail. Oh wow

What about peanut but like a bit old peanut? Yeah, nothing peanut Well, he did clean all the fucking hall. Yeah, but oh, that's so weird How are we just gonna give out peanuts at the fourth theater? But it's like it's like if we were here Where a lot of comedians so our colleagues Around and if someone was like hey, can you just hold the door open? Yeah, you just carry something We were here where a lot of comedians, so our colleagues are around. And if someone was like, hey, can you just hold the door open for me? Yeah, you just fully trust me.

I've got to carry something. Yeah, man, or is? But you know how that would look at the same time? It would be like, with this plan, you were organized to do that. And you'd be like, no, I had fucking no idea. That's happened to be here. To be fair, Evannie Matthews said, can you hold my horse? I'd have some questions.

Yeah, but I wouldn't assume you're supposed to do something. It'd be basically, it'd be very today. That would be, I got a run in, Hey, can you, Jemma, I'm parking the car? Yeah. And keeping the motor running. And yeah, no, yeah, that is a bit of a bad thing. I'm being ready to take off very quickly.

And then he's holding a gun. Yeah, that's who that would cause suspicion. So all eight of those were arrested and found guilty. Whoa. To varying degrees, people who are involved on the day of the assassination were sentenced to death. Even the guy that put himself. Yep, even the guy that didn't follow the story.

Including Mary Surat, who just had a pub. And she also passed on a message as well. All right, I thought she'd just give them a function room. No, she didn't have it. On the day she did pass on a message, but some say it was coded and she might not have known exactly what was going on. Whoa.

There would protest the whole way through. I don't think a woman had ever been capital punished before. Wow. In America. And people like, this isn't how it should go. The ones who were hung, hang, sorry, on the day, people were still protesting.

Other guys, like, pain was going, don't, she had nothing to do with it, leave her out, don't kill her. And, and, and, so, it was kind of even like going, this isn't, this is a bit much. Wow. And, right up to the day, people were thinking that she was gonna get a state of execution,

but she didn't. On the, the, it was a the weird thing, apparently back at the time, you know, there was lots of sun umbrellas, that was a classic thing. They were holding up a sun umbrella for us, she had the hood on her head, so she wouldn't get sunstroke, you know, because that was just so weird. That's so odd. So weird. She can't get sunburned. And not...

You should actually make it a bit hot before we snap her neck. There was a ninth conspirator who Was never arrested or wasn't arrested at the time her son actually John's throughout the younger guy was definitely more involved He got a wafer to Canada then he got a ship to England and ended up working in the Vatican, or in Rome. He became the Pope! Yeah, John Paul II.

Now he, um, but he did, he worked in the, like the, I think in the Pope's guard or whatever. Wow. I think I read that. What the Swiss guard. Something like that. Fuck. Wow. Yeah, the military unit that protected the Pope, whatever those guards called.

Yeah, the Swiss guard. And a men. Military unit that protected the Pope, whatever those guys called. Yeah, the Swiss card, and their colorful suits. And apparently, funnily enough, the Surat family were big in the Catholic world, which is like, obviously, they're early, there was something that Booth wasn't into them, Catholics, but a man that he got away for quite a while. Oh, no.

Can you get the pardon from the person. In the meantime, all eight went on trial, some were put to death. Including Mary. Including Mary. All the ones who were involved on the day, they were all put to death. That's men.

But the others who were involved in smaller ways in the eating and a bedding or the stuff forward, sent a jail for different amounts of time. Including, and also the horse guy. So he was involved on the day, but not part of the plan. Yeah, he was sentenced to jail. And peanut John.

Peanut John was fine. Peanut John was fine, yeah. That's mental. So the ones that were, sorry, the ones that were sentenced to prison were Mard, the doctor, Oloclan, Arnold and Edmund Spangler, the horse holder. But he didn't even hold the fucking horse. He didn't. Peanut John killed it. He had to build the stage. The one that got away, John Serrat, avoided capture for a while in Rome, but someone recognized him eventually. He was

arrested, but apparently he escaped for a while, got to Egypt, who was found again and eventually sent back extra order back to the US and tried for the same stuff as his mum, the stuff that his mum was found guilty of. This was a few years later, so it wasn't exact same trial, a little bit of time to pass. And the civil trial resulted in a hung jury, so he went free. The hung the jury! He lived till 1916. Wow.

That's in Matt's time. Yeah, well, that's the century we were all alive. So he lived. Yeah, and that's somewhat... So that was pretty scattered at the end. I got a bit excited and I went off script a lot. No, it's really interesting. Yeah, it's like I didn't realize all that stuff in it.

It's a...it is an interesting story. And I kind of wish that I was sitting here listening to Dave tell it But I wish that he would have gotten so excited he would have he would have done it by the book Hold it cool. He would have held his cool, but I just got flustered there If I had a single bullet gun, I would have shot it in the air gun. I'm coming for you Oh, fuck let me reload it. Give me five minutes. Sorry, everybody got that big stick out. It was one of those really old night-looking guns as well. Something you'd expect to pirate that is that was a lover of.

So a character. Yeah, I mean, it does sound like a pretty bad guy. Definitely a pretty guy. And also, yes, a very bad guy. That's so weird. I had no idea. I knew it was just a city, I thought it was a political... Just back in that time, people were like seemingly...

They hated Lincoln, but in a lot of ways, Lincoln was a hero after that. He was, you know, more universally loved. So it's part of the legend. I think it definitely did help. And I mean, now, I think most people would argue that Lincoln was on the right track with slavery totally yeah, so So I just hung on the jury, but so this is funny like it's time goes on you're like oh that girl And it's just amazing. Oh, I'm like there was a whole side of America who were like

Oh, slavery is great and the other half's like, what the fuck it, what, America's all about freedom. What the fuck, what the fuck, what the fuck, what the fuck, what's the opposite of the things we say is freedom and everyone, no, no, no, no, no, no, freedom for us, where equal? They're not. Some of us are more equal than others as animal farm said. So strange. Yes, anyway, so that was, that was, I did I say that at the start? Obviously that was the topic as voted by our Patreon. Oh, that was the topic. Supporters, yes.

So, I did, anyway, I should get it in the script. You got some, I should get it in the script. I should get it in the script. You suggested it, do we know? Yes, we do know. He's actually a patron himself. And I, and he had another topic of Helen Keller, John Titus. Titus? John Titus,, John Titus. Titus!

John Titus, well done John. Titus, we're never sure. I thought it was John Titus, that disease we love to have. The disease we love to John. John Titus, what have you got? It's John Titus. You lucky about me. It's okay, I've got any biotics.

But then give me a kiss, I'll give you some John Titus. I won't tell you what the other topics were But it beat them by quite a lot it got over half the vote cool Oh good suggestion John Titus as as we are now very well aware of listeners love de killers They love them. We should do a topic on Las Vegas band the killers sometime That they would love that please don't wink at me ever again. How's it Dave? You cross-eyed?

Please don't wink at me ever again. Please don't wink at me ever again. If you're gonna wink, you wink at both of us with different eyes at the same time. Please blink at us. Matt, do it. Blink at us. Thank you. He had to think about that too.

You're gonna blink. He's a good blink at us. Yeah, no, that's just kind of thing you shouldn't have to think about. But you did. You thought about it and you twitched a bit. Hey're a good player. Yeah, no, that's just kind of thing you shouldn't have to think about. But you did. You thought about it and you twitched a bit. Hey, speaking of patrons, the end of each episode, we'd love to thank some of our faith.

We've got to thank some faith or it's. Including John Titus. So yeah, Dave, do you have a patron? A patron. Well, I've got some on the thing. But just off topic, if I ever had a son, I've got two names ready to go. It's 50-50th of the stage where I'll call my son Daniel, or the real-time son Ryan. A man that has already combined the two best names on his planet.

Who is it? None other. Then Daniel Ryan, thanks, Dan Ryan. I really like Dan Ryan. Daniel Ryan. He gets on to us a bit. What a bloody good guy. Thanks, Dan Ryan. I'm going to name my child after you. Both my children. Twin boys, once Daniel wants Ryan. It is actually as funny as you said that because there are four names that I would give my son if I ever had a son Brad Lee Ma and honey and Coincidentally fun enough

The guy I would like to think a real bloody champ a guy that only knows winning Never even I'll I'm gonna actually say the word for the first time he's ever heard it, losing. This guy doesn't know the meaning of it, it means to not win mate. He's very good at winning, not great at vocab, but... Super good guy, Anna winner in the world and in my heart, Mr Bradley Mahoney. Are you sure it's Mahoney and not like Marnie? I'm not sure of that, but I...

It's the same. But Bradley. Knowing my history. It or not like Marnie? I'm not sure of that, but I. It's the same. I have. But Bradley. Knowing my history. It's probably mine. It's almost definitely Marnie. You love to change two of your son's names. I'm Mahoney. Mah, can stay, but Honey, it's got to mean, Ne.

Ne, just Ne. No, that was, I mean that's just a coincidence, Dave. I'm not. Yeah, he's just talking, because you guys are talking about naming your kids. Well, I'm gonna definitely name mine after Daniel Ryan, so I respect him even more. Well, it's funny that you mention that because I was thinking just the other day when I have children, which I've frequently said on this podcast I don't want to do. But when I do, I would definitely,

I think, top 10, somewhere in my top 10 favorite names, would obviously be Connor. I just think because- Somewhere in the top 10. Somewhere in the top 10. Because of Terminator. Yeah. So-

It's enough for me. And coincidentally, actually, somebody that I would like to thank, just a little side note there with naming kids, but coincidentally, it's funny that I mentioned that because the person that I want to thank for supporting our show is none other than Connor Saunders who we've actually met Matt. I had a really pleasant time with Connor. Connor is the best.

We met Connor and his brother Josh in in Ballarat and they're going to be coming to one of our live shows when we do them for comedy festival and they're just delightful humans and And thank you very much Connor. Thanks so much Connor. Thank you all of you. Hmm every last one all of years It is it is nice to thank these legends and Sorry for everyone who finds that tedious no one. I'm not sorry because no one finds that tedious But speaking of we're apologizing because no one finds that tedious. Well, we're apologizing to no one.

Speaking of tedious, we're apologizing to no one. We should also probably just mention how they can get in contact with us. Yeah, sure. Well, if you want us to contact you via reading out your name, of course, Patreon is the way to go. Patreon.com says,

to go on pod, get the bonus stuff, get the bonus episodes, that kind of stuff. Of course, you can email us to go on pod at gmail.com. We're on Twitter, we're on Facebook, we're on Instagram, at do go on pod. It is always great to hear from you. You can suggest topics, the hat is growing every single week, but hey, you gotta be in it to win it.

Gotta be. Gotta be in it. And yeah, I'll get, if I haven't done it already, I probably will get a new vote up soon, and that's pretty much everyone. I think it's $2 and above on Patreon. you get to vote in the topic my topic thingy majig. Yeah, that's right get involved. Be part of the change you want to see. And one last thing if you don't mind me bringing up if you don't mind do you mind?

Oh mind. Devon Bruns tweeted at us last week, week four, letting us know he created a do-go-on subreddit. Now, I don't fully understand Reddit, but I love the idea of this. I know that Reddit is like the real internet, where real internet people go. Sure, yep.

It's the kind of place I want to understand. I'm gonna try and figure it out. But I think it's a place where basically, he's put it together. It's reddit.com slash r slash do go on pod. Great. And I think it's just going to be a place to just chat about topics, probably mention things we've fucked up.

Also things we've got very right. Yeah, but I'll probably be more things we've fucked up which is fun. It was a list of things they got right. It's a short list. But yeah, if you're in a reddit, that'll be really cool to go there. Hang out. I don't know what else to, I don't know how that all works exactly.

But we can contribute it ourselves. We can go in there and answer questions. Is that kind of stuff if you want us to? Yeah, sweet. Oh, I guess. Cool. Just make more work for us, Dave. Fuck.

We said way meaning him and. Yeah, great. Him and him and a lot. for us Dave. Fuck. We said way meaning him and... Yeah great. Him and him and life. Yeah it's way done. I've got to find a computer fist. I was a bloody hell out there. But until then I'm gonna go jump and pull! I'm so fucking hot.

So hot. Hey Dave can I come to you my best friend. Alright, thanks so everyone having us. Later! We won then. It's a pass. Bye! I'll go again. Sweet. Sweet.

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