Two In The Think Tank - 94 - The Collar Bomb Heist

Episode Date: August 9, 2017

In 2003, Erie Pennsylvania was struck by one of the strangest crimes in history. A pizza delivery driver named Brian Douglas Wells walked into a bank with a bomb strapped to his neck. When he was arrested minutes later he claimed he had been forced to wear the bomb and complete an array of tasks. Sadly the bomb would explode before he could give them any more information. The intriguing story of the pizza bomber has it all... murder, cheese, butter and a poo room. Support the show and get rewards like bonus episodes: www.patreon.com/DoGoOnPodTwitter: @DoGoOnPodInstagram: @DoGoOnPodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/DoGoOnPod/Email us: [e-mail] Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Always drive safely. This podcast is part of the Planet Broadcasting Network. Visit planetbcasting.com for more podcasts from our great mates. Hello and welcome to another episode of DoGo on my name is Dave Warnocky and I'm here with the dashing Matsuot and the lovely Jess Perkin. Oh, hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Hello. Majestic Dave Warnicky. That's great. It should be Majestic Matt and Dashing Dave, shouldn't it? Fank. And just Jess. I was gonna go jolly Jess. Oh that's good. But no, no, just Jess. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's it. You're all good.

Not many fun words. That was Jay. Do they? That's what you were all good. J-m-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j-j- that's sick this week. We're all a bit under the weather. Yeah. Sick app. Yeah, fully sick. Maybe because Jess made us sick, because you always ill. That's that can't possibly be my fault. I won't be held accountable, thank you. Jess, you sent a message to our group chat before saying that it's like you're sick two weeks on and then one week a month.

It's my fault. It's a five. I'm a five five. Flying fly out sickness. Yeah, I'm at least one week on and then two weeks I'll be fine and then I'll get sick again but you're making like six grand a week or something oh yeah big time yeah working on them big rigs I'm fucking loaded

Jail for oil or whatever you do Jail for comedy gold is what I'm doing you know where we are Jail for comedy gold that's at our Melbourne live show 100th episode next month and we've put put on sale just last week and we've already sold nearly all of the tickets. Yeah, it's incredible, so good. Makes me feel like I'm not sick, makes me feel... No, I still feel sick. No, no, right in that moment, I feel good. It's coming back to it now, right? You brought me back to reality. Also, gonna see the night before our live show, which is already sold out,

David and even plug it. I don't know, don't worry about that. No, no, you can't get tickets even if you want them. Yeah, but I mean, you could plug the fact that people should remember to come. Oh yeah, yeah. You guys don't forget me coming up. August 20th, seven.

No, thank you, we've got them money. That's August 27th, so on August 26th, I'm in Sydney. Each of those, I'll be there there and you should too everyone should come Well just now I'll be at the Sydney show because we'll be up there then I before our podcast on Jess's birthday Mm-hmm and the next day it is our podcast and after that is my birthday which ties in a little bit to the topic this week Oh Okay, is the question when is Dave's birthday? Oh, it's a little bit more complicated than that.

But that's... Damn it. Because I could have answered that one. I would have answered it real shortly after. Constantly. Yeah, he just told us. But he's weird. Also, I'm pretty good at remembering friends' birthdays.

You are pretty good. Yeah. Not me. The following event, it happened that I'm going to talk about. It happened on my 13th birthday. Okay, so 1993. 2003, I'm not by the year age, mate. Oh, sorry.

My maths is good. I always take out the one digit from the top of what an answer should be. Sure, okay. So I went, all right, so 13 years for 1990 and obviously I got the Y2K bugs Still that's what my sickness is and a reset Once I hit 2000 went back to 1990 and then the remaining three took us up to 90 no we're going for 2013 What now? Yes, it was like I'm pretty good at remembering my friends

Just got a different kind of sickness. Okay, so 2003 what happened then? All right, so that's the date of this, but my question to get us onto the topic is, if you had to strap a bomb to someone else, where would you strap it onto? Oh, okay. Okay, that's it. What's the scenario? Are you looking for them to explode in the biggest way?

Or are you looking for it to get through some sort of security? Because if you're trying to get through some security, you'd strap it to their butt hole. In their butt. You'd strap it in their butt. You'd strap it in their butt, I think. But if you're trying to, well, actually, I might be the same answer for both.

I think that would also do a lot of destruction. You'd blow them from the inside out, so to speak. I think that would be... I'm going to agree with Matthew. They probably wouldn't implode into their butthole. It forms a black hole. It forms a black hole. And that is how black hole was formed.

I'm reliably informed. Out of a brown hole. It's the corutty. Okay, I'm going to agree with Matthew. Our answer is butthole. You're locking in butthole. brown hole. Brown's a black. It's the karate. Okay, I'm gonna approve Matt our answer is butthole. You're locking in butthole. Well the answer is if you had to strap a bomb to someone on August the 28th 2003 you would strap it to their collar to their neck. This this topic. Ah! The neck

bomber. Oh yeah this is the is like a kidnapping. Well, we're gonna get to the story. It's called the Colobum Heist And it was suggested by Lee Moranti. I'm great name Great name and possibly saying that wrong. Lee Moranti on Facebook, you message this in. You message a little article Facebook you message this in, you message a little article and I often read the Facebook messages and I was Transfixed. Wow, okay. We're gonna try and transfix you now with the story and do justice for lemur aunties suggestion the Colobum Heist. So our story takes place in the city of Eerie in the north west corner of Pennsylvania About 50 kilometers from the Ohio state line. Ohio! Not far from it, it's nearly in Ohio topic.

Love it. Nearly claim it. I'm into it. You're there, it's a 20 minute drive. Yeah. If you imagine being 20 minutes from Ohio, how cool would that be? Pretty cool. Yeah.

Erie, the unassuming city had a relatively low crime rate and was about to be rocked by a crime that few could ever even imagine. Bum bum bum! How's Erie's spelt? Er-i-e. Mm-hmm. Whaaat? That's cool.

I was pictured with two A's at the start. Like, the word Erie. Yeah. That's what you're picturing. Fair enough. One of the residents of Eerie was 46-year-old Brian Douglas Wells, a quiet man who had dropped out of high school at the age of 17 and worked for at least 10 years as a trusted employee of the Mamma Mia Pizza Rea.

He was the... The Afraidments. Pizza Shop. Hmm. It started as a website and they branched out. Yeah. Pizza shop, skin care lines. That shaming articles.

Well, he was the pizza delivery driver delivering that and that shaming articles to people that are about to get fat. He delivered pizzas for 10 years. At least 10 years. I saw some places say that he'd worked there since high school for 30 years. Delivering pizzas for 30 years. Brian. That's a passion. That's a passion for a passion project. Delivering happiness. Yeah, in a pizza pie. On August the 28th, 2003, my 13th birthday, I was discussed. At the end of Wells' shift, at about 130 pm, the pizza area got a call.

Wells boss answered the call, but complained that he couldn't hear the customer, he sounded too muffled, so he handed the phone to his trusty employee. In the 10 years previous to this Wells, it only ever taken one sick day to look after his sick cat. So the owner knew he could count on Brian, who took the call and was able to take the order So he understands muffles He speaks muffles. Well his cat's nose muffles. Oh, so that makes sense the cat calls up and says he's sick Is that muffles? I'll be there. I'll be right there too large Hawaiian all right right away 2 p.m. Wells took the order of two small pepperoni pizza pies.

Pizza pie. And he took down directions of where to deliver the pizzas. It was a secluded TV tower on the outskirts of town, accessible only by a small dirt road. Like I said, it was the end of Wells shift, but he delivered those pizzas anyway. He's dedicated. But to a TV tower. Yeah. How do you give an address to a TV tower?

Well, they had to give him directions. No, I don't trust that. If I can't put into Google Maps, I don't trust it. You've been trusting very little before about three years ago. Absolutely. The next time Brian Wells was seen was 28 minutes later. This time he was walking into a bank. Instead of his mummy mea pizzeria uniform,

he was now wearing a white shirt sporting the guess logo and the word guess. That's how they knew it was guess. Cryptic. Despite being fully able, he was carrying a walking stick, like a cane in his right hand, and a, had a strange bulge under the collar and chest area of his baggy white t-shirt. A witness described it like he had a shoebox stuffed down his shirt.

Okay. Or you just have it a seamy. Don't wink at me. I winked at him while looking at you. I don't even mean to do it that way. I don't know how you did that. I'm a big bulge. And all the wrong places. Yeah. Fat shaming. Well, do you work for my mum here? Do you really? Full disclosure. Makes sense.

Well, then calmly past the bank teller a note that we're going to be able to get a new one. And then we're going to be able to get a new one. And then we're going to be able to get a new one. Oh, do you work for Mum and Mia? Do you really? Full disclosure. Makes sense. Well, it was then calmly passed.

The bank teller, a note that read, quote, gather employees with access codes to the vault and work as fast as you can to fill a bag with $250,000. You only have 15 minutes. I have a bomb. To prove the last part of the note, Brian lifted your shirt to show off his sweet bod slash a rectangular bomb hanging from his neck. But most of the sweet bod. I can tell

you that Brian did not have a sweet bod. Did he have a sweet bomb? Yeah, oh, it's so sweet. It was the bomb. I used to that. Self-loathing, low thing, 100%. Mispronaching low So the bank teller told Wells there was no way to gain access to the vault of that time, but they were able to fill a bag with $8,700 in petty cash and handed it to Brian who seemed satisfied. But you asked for $250. Yeah, you get 3%. No, you wouldn't be happy with that.

I'll put this one in. But Brian's happy. So satisfied. Before walking out of the bank, he grabbed a lollipop from the counter of the bank, which if that's an American thing, I really think we should push to employ that here on Australia. I've never heard that. Yeah, that's more like a children's doctors thing.

Yeah, but... He called him children doctors? Pediatricians. Pediatricians, thing. Yeah, but he called him children doctors. Pediatricians. Pediatricians, yeah. Yeah, totally. Hey, but you know, you say this guy, he seemed happy with that money, and you don't think he should be.

He just got over 8 grand for doing nothing. Just for asking for it, I'd be stoked with that as well. Doesn't have a problem. Hey Dave, give me, give me quarter of a million dollars. I don't have access to that much now, but I can give you eight grand. Happy. Happy? Yeah, you're surprised I'm happy with that.

Dave, can I also have eight grand? I'm afraid I've given all my eight grand to Matt. Can I have something? You have a lollipop? Yeah, right? Got for the bank. Yeah, sweet. You got his lollipop, you got his eight grand cash. He jumped back in his car, now a wanted man.

Oh, so made him more sexually attractive. Money does that. Yeah, it does. Big time. Instantly. Big time. He didn't get far from the bank when 15 minutes later he was spotted by police officers. He saw him standing outside his car in a nearby car park.

They then surrounded him and tossed him to the concrete and cuffed his hands behind his back. Whilst cuffed, Brian told the arresting officers that whilst attempting his pizza delivery, he had been jumped by, quote, a group of black men who forcibly cuffed the bomb around his neck at gunpoint and forced him to rob the bank. Wow, he's just got interesting. He was very convincing when he said, I'm not lying, it's going to go off because still in handcuffs, the officers left wells and took cover behind their police cars. Oh shit.

So he's sort of sitting in the middle of a car park, sitting out with his hands handcuffed behind his back and there, got cars at all angles and they just sort of, you know, hide behind the doors. Nice. Because doors are bombproof, aren't they? Yeah. Copped doors? Yeah. Well, they reinforce, certainly.

Reinforce bombproof, collar bomb, at least. Collab bombproof. Yeah. Collab bombproof. Yeah. Collab bombproof. Yeah. Collab bombproof.

Yeah. Collab bombproof. Yeah. Collab bombproof. Yeah. Local TV stations had been tipped off as well, so camera crews rocked up and began filming the pictures going out live. For 25 minutes, Wells sat handcuffed, sat upright with the cameras and police watching on. You can actually see video of him pleading with officers saying, why is nobody coming to try and get this thing off me? I don't have a lot of time. He pulled a key out and started a timer. That's what he yells at the officers.

Wells can be heard asking, did you call my boss? Maybe for an alibi or perhaps because he was worried he would get in trouble for not dropping off the pizza pies. I told you, he's fucking dedicated. God, Brian. Imagine if you were waiting for a pizza pie though. I like saying pizza pie. I don't know if he has a note but... You don't get to say it down here very often, pizza pie. No, two things we need. Lollipops or banks, pizza pie. I don't know if you can tell. I can tell. You don't get to say it down here very often, pizza pie. No, two things we need. Lollipops or banks, pizza pies.

Yeah. What do you say down here? Down here in the podcast issue, you. Right. I don't know what I meant by that at all. Yeah, who would say that down here? Down here. Do you mean southern hemisphere?

Yeah, I don't know, because I reckon all of Australia just calls them pizzas, right? Yeah. You reckon all of the southern hemisphere do yeah yeah out of nowhere the bomb started making a beeping sound well obviously the extremely panic he attempted to push himself backwards as if to escape the bomb but of course he couldn't get away after the beeping came an explosion that ripped ripped a gash into Wells' chest He took a couple more breaths and died on the pavement. 318 in the open. Holy shit. I'm not sure if I took all that in. What just happened?

What gave him a gash? The bomb. It exploded, ripped a hole in his chest, and then a few breaths later he was dead on the pavement. All on live television. Oh my god. The bomb squad arrived just three minutes later. No! Man, and he kept warning him. Yeah. Why is nobody getting this thing off? But he's up there for 25 minutes. 25 minutes. The bomb squad didn't get there.

Didn't get there any time. Are you kidding me? Where were they? Especially if your story is true, that is fucked. It's crazy. That's insane. How did it take them so long? No, it's not a good time.

Maybe there wasn't a bomb squad 20 minutes from Ohio. Maybe they were deeper in Ohio. The crime was shocking to local police, but only became more shocking when they started searching Wells Car and examining evidence. The now detonated bomb was examined and was found to consist of two parts. A triple banded metal collar with four key holes and a three digit combination lock as well as an iron box containing two six inch pipe bombs. So the hinge collar locked around wells as neck like a giant hang cuff. The device looked a little crude but was thought to have

been made using professional tools. The bomb contained two kitchen timers and one electronic countdown timer. It was also surrounded by decoy wires that ran into nothing to try and put anyone who wanted to defuse the weapon off. So yeah, it's, and it, so I had four keys, four key holes, four locks, plus the combination locks. If you wanted to get it off, you had to unlock five things. Now the walking stick that I talked about that Wells was carrying was examined and found to be a fully functioning handgun simply disguised as a cane. What?

All also homemade. What? Oh no. So, allegedly whoever gave this to him, gave him the bomb and then also gave him this gun. Wow. I wonder who was it? It was like James Bond gave it to him or something. A police found a series of notes in Wells' car that laid out an elaborate scavenger hunt, showing him the way to keys and clues that might disarm the bomb. What? A note found on Wells had instructions for him to carry out four tasks,

the first of which was the robber bank for $250,000, in a set period of time before the bomb went off. The notes were written by hand and referred to Wells as bomb hostage and contained drawings, threats and detailed maps of where he was supposed to go to try and find the keys. What's the point of this? Someone, someone, someone's playing a fucking sick game. Is it just a sick game to you? I'll do you'll bet into the skies. Someone to seal that.

Yes. There it is. Thanks, I needed that answer. Fair enough. I've noticed that Wells would gain extra time with the completion of each task. And at certain checkpoints would find different keys to different locks. He would then get the final key and the combination to the lock when he got to the end of the task and handed over the money. It read quote, this powerful booby trapped bomb can be removed only by following our instructions, then in capital letters, act now, think later or you will die. But he got, he did the first thing they asked him to do,

but then he died anyway. Because the cops stopped him eat. Yes, he was in mid-scarvanted hunt, so he's got the cash and he's onto a task two and then the cops obviously So ran out of time because they stopped him in his tracks Fuck if the hours after Wells death after finding the handwritten scavenger hunt instructions Police attempted to complete the tasks in the hope that it would lead them to whoever was behind the plot to get them to You know the final checkpoint and then they're standing there waiting. Wells had completed a couple of tasks before he was apprehended. This is what it read, exit the bank after the after you go to the bank with the money and go to

McDonald's restaurant restaurant misspelled. Get out of the car and go to the small sign reading drive-thru slash open 24 hours in the flower bed. By the sign there was a rock with a note taped to the bottom. This has your next instructions. So Wells had driven straight there after he left the bank with a bag of cash. He retrieved a two-page note from that flower bed as directed. And this note directed him to a wooded area several miles away where a container with orange tape would hold the next set of instructions. Wells was on his way to find that clue when he was arrested, so the cops who were recreating this, they pick up the trail from there a couple hours later. They found the orange

container as described and inside they found a note directing them two miles south to a small road sign, where the next clue would be waiting in a jar in the woods nearby. When they got there, they found the jar, but it was empty. It seemed whoever had mastered the mission had called it off as soon as they'd found out the police were involved. Super creepily, perhaps that person or persons were watching their every move. Because it was broadcast live on TV. They definitely would have found out about it. Big story. Right. Big, big story.

Was you not have just gone straight to the police? Do you reckon? With the Bomber Engine X. Yeah, so help me. One of the threats was, like, if we see you where the police was sent off. Oh, shit. And he did say, he sounded like he was a pretty, like he wasn't earth.

He was a rule following simple man, right? People speculated that the guess shirt that he was wearing was also possibly a message, like a taunt, if you will. Because he wasn't wearing his shirt anymore. He was wearing this big baggy white guess shirt. Perhaps saying, can you guess who this is? Right. Who's behind this crazy crime?

Hmm. The authorities next step was to check out the delivery location that Wells had apparently been called to, the one that was only reachable by dirt road, and they found that it was indeed a TV transmission tower in a wooded area off of busy peach street. So it was pretty secluded and there was not many people around. They discovered Schu Prince consistent with Wells Footwear and tire tracks matching the trezz on his car, but the site offered no other clues

as to who may have lured him there, what happened once he'd arrived? Police were absolutely perplexed. That's never good. Why didn't they listen to him in the first place? Who? The cops. I know.

It does feel like they should have called the bomb squad a lot early, especially once you hear about a bank robbery where someone's threatened the teller with a bomb. Yeah. You took them a long time together. Yeah, they were aware that there was a bomb. Come on, bomb squad. Yeah, and the video is pretty chilling. It's like it's pretty much a man pleading for his life and then my bum goes off. Yeah, the media obviously went crazy for this mysterious case and

The day after Wells died a reporter from the local area newspaper went up to the TV tower to try and get a look At the crime scene and get some photos for the newspaper But by this time police had cordoned off the area so the reporter had to find a different way of getting to the scene. There was a lone house in the area on Peach Street and Peach Street that had a long thin backyard that backed onto the TV tower. The reporter introduced themselves to the owner of the house, one Bill Rothstein. Bill was a 59 year old local handyman and seemed oblivious to the crime committed practically in his own backyard.

And when the reporter asked if they could take a look in the backyard to get some photos, he said, yeah, why not? The art was too overgrown with forest to see anything, so after 15 minutes the reporter left Bill to it. Bill Rostin seemed like a normal guy who just happened to have a house that backed onto a crime scene. Yeah. Seemed like a normal guy, Jess.

Yeah, I picked up on that too. But three weeks later, authorities for your Rothstein would change I'm seeing seem like a normal god. Yeah, yeah, I picked up on that too, but Three weeks later authorities view of Rothstein would change dramatically when he made this phone call to a 911 operator and I quote At 8 645 Pete Street in the garage. There was a frozen body. It's in the freezer That makes sense that makes sense. That's why I'd keep it as well. There's a frozen body. You don't want them to melt down. You don't want them to defrost. There's a frozen body on my bed. It's now a water bed. Rothstein was immediately arrested and told police that he'd been overcome with guilt. He told confused investigators that he'd considered killing himself and he'd even written a suicide note which investigators found inside his desk.

The suicide note reads, To those who cared for or about me and then identified the body in the freezer as that of a man called Jim Roden. But this was not a confession as he noted, I did not kill him nor participate in his death. The weirdest part of the note was that it opened with the line, this has nothing to do with the Wells case. This is the Colobum guy. Okay. That's weird. No. With a winky face emoji. So don't even bother asking any questions. Nothing at all. Nothing to see here boys. When you do a picture of himself at that very moment as a cartoon villain, girl.

I've said too much. I've said too much. Bill had a lot of explaining to do and explain it. He did. He told authorities that in mid-August, he'd received a phone call from his ex-girlfriend, a lady called Marjorie Deal Armstrong. I'd break up with Marjorie to American.

No, no good. No good. Marjorie. No, no good at all. Or jury. Jury. Jury. Jury.

Jury. Sorry, you say Jerry? No, jury. My name's Jury. He talked about how he'd received a call from his ex-girlfriend Marjorie. Oh you're not strong, sorry. A woman that he dated in the 1970s, so a long time earlier. Marjorie told him that she had shot her boyfriend James Rodin in the back with a shotgun in a dispute over money. She asked Bill Rothstein to help remove Rodin's body and help her clean up the crime scene

in her house. And Bill must have really liked his ex-girlfriend because he said yes. No! I- You're not doing that for your ex-boyfriend? I'm not doing that for you guys and you are not my ex-boyfriends. You're two of my favorite people in the world and I would not do that. You know, we cover up a crime surely.

Um... Rock solid man! Yeah, alright. You would not! You would not. You're the biggest pacifist of all of us. I mean, the murder's already committed me. I've been helping you clean up and hide a body. I'm about to murder. Maddo, you have a better cleaning job. I'm saying I love to help clean. You're a great cleaning. Love cleaning. That's true. He does a lot of root house. I've always, yeah, I've always got the mop at the ready. Anytime we have a do-go on little dinner here,

he always does the dishes. I do, I do. He always cleans as you go. That's what I say with cooking and with murder. I always say that. I clean as you go. You do say that. And that time that I got blood all over the plate,

you cleaned it up really well. I did. That plate is buried deep in the forest. I don't want to have a find it. So you can trust this guy. Jess, I can't trust you any more. No, good no. Don't trust me. Don't call me in that instance. Well, Bill Rossine is a better friend than you. Okay, sorry. Good. Great. Because I wrapped the body in tight plastic as you always should, Matt says this a lot. And he kept the corpse in a chest freezer in his garage. Now the body to be in there for five weeks, whilst he painstakingly melted down the murder weapon

and the shotgun and scattered the pieces around the county. Wow. I mean, that all sounds like a lot of effort to go to and he's, is, why is he coming clean all of a sudden? Guilt. Uh, guilty. Marjorie. Well, the next step was to chop up the body into tiny pieces.

Oh, come on! But Bill Rostin, a great guy, again, he told authorities that he just couldn't do it. He had called the police and turned himself in because of his serious guilt, but also because he was scared to death that Marjorie would kill him as she was a bit of a psychopath. Yeah, no shit. So I think broke up the first time. But also, maybe that's why he was scared into saying yes Because he's a psychic yeah because I'll tell you a bit about Marjorie

She'd been suspected of murder in the past and in fact rodin who she she shot when the back with the shotgun was the fourth Part that who were there suspicious death linked to her. Oh my god. Marjorie Marjorie learn to use your words This is the first one. She shot the first one in the 70s, seven or eight times whilst he slept. And she got off on self-defense as the man had allegedly been abusing her. While he slept. While he slept. One of her partners had hanged themselves in suspicious circumstances, and another apparently slipped and hid his head on the coffee table, and he died. Wow. Slipped and he said. Sliped and hid, he said.

She's had a lot of bad luck. A lot of bad luck. She's unlucky. I'm lucky and love. Marjorie, just like, okay, he didn't pick up his socks or but like just talked to him about it. Jesus. No, she's just been on the feet.

You don't have to fucking murder them. Well, I surely, Jess, you've gotten pissed off at someone and throwing the head into a coffee table on a fit of rage. No, but I have hanged them. Oh, right. Obviously. All right. Every time I get into an argument.

So you're either a Jess or a Marjorie, and Marjorie's both. He's hanged and she's hit someone with her coat. That's how it works. She crazy. Marjorie. Well, she's a bit crazy actually. Ernie's a small city and like a small town. Most people knew each other there, especially a similar age.

And back in school, the madry was known for her extreme intelligence, but also for her extreme mood swings. Later on, she was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and she appeared unable to control her non-stop rapid fire speech. So she, she's pretty loud and opinionated lady. She didn't like you, she'd let you know and let you hang you. I think that's all you can ask for. My polo! Honestly.

Honestly, and, you know, a quick death. My polo does not make you kill people. No. It doesn't. It doesn't at all. It doesn't. I just wanted to make that very clear. I don't think that's what Dave was suggesting. No, I know he wasn't. I'm just saying that all. I just wanted to make that very clear. I don't think that's what Dave was suggesting. No, I know he wasn't. I'm just saying that like I just want everybody to be very clear.

I haven't finished describing Marjorie yet. Oh God. In 1984, investigators found 400 pounds of cheese. Nearly all of it rotting inside of a trash strewn house. So, which one? It's a water of dairy. 11 pounds of rotting dairy. Holy shit, Marjorie.

Marjorine. Oh my god. She fucking hates Marjorie, what was that noise? I don't know but edit it out please Matt's trying out a new laugh and it's not going well Oh my god, Jess gets a lot of praise for her laughs and I'm like no no I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna cash you on this Jess always tells me that I should laugh more so I was just giving it a go

I'd say that it's just always so nice when you actually hear an audible laugh from you. I'm trying to let one out. See if we can trick you. I was a very funny one. I thought I deserved a laugh. I just didn't have one to give. I think it took me by surprise. I tried to manufacture one.

Marjorane. Is that right? That's good. I was less baked the the supposed real love Why did she have butter? You hear with the answers How long before butter starts to rot? I think I'm crying! Butter rot?

You're gonna try. You're gonna try real hard in my rot. Butter has a fairly lengthy shelf lock. It would be pretty easy to sleep over and hit you head on a coffee table if there was butter in the middle of the floor. Maybe it's the weapon she uses. She just buttered that bread real good and he slipped onto it. Yeah and then buttered the block that he was standing on. Just stand up here on this block. And 700 pounds of cheese. Oh first question is, is it all the one cheese? We're talking like a tasty

or is it like a hundred grams of feta three hundred grams of right maybe just a cheese platter I don't know is that a lot of cheese forty seven hundred pounds yeah that sounds like a lot is it yeah I do a pounds to kilos for you okay pounds are less than kilos right yeah but it's still three hundred nearly three hundred and twenty kilos of cheese three hundred and twenty kilos of cheese that's a lot of cheese now you're right this quite a bit of cheese. It's around 20 kilos of cheese. That's a lot of cheese. No, you're right. It's quite a bit of cheese. A butter We're talking 180 kilos of rotting butter. 180 kilos. That's a lot of butter. That's like a whole room of butter. I haven't finished well. She's got the butter room. She's also got a poo room. Excuse me. She's got a poo room. What a poo room

Several hundred pounds. No, investigators had to wear masks and suits to search our house on account of all the fleas and excrement that were in every room. Especially the people. What the fuck? What the fuck? There's fans of Jason Butter and there's fleas and poo. She's batshit crazy. Oh yeah. She's fucking crazy. Oh my god, yeah.

Okay, firstly, how did she have several, how did she get boyfriends to kill? Oh, she's fucking crazy. Oh my god. Yeah. Okay. Firstly, how did she have several? How did she get boyfriends to kill? Oh, she's in heaps. She sounds disgusting. She's killed for and the fifth ones Laksa so much that he's helping her. No, I think he fears her. Rightly so. Holy shit What what okay animal feces or her feces? I couldn't confirm And I hit image and I regret it Poo room he's going straight to the poem That's good too. It's a quote from a movie. Yeah, look it look. She says it looks into the John ball every night goes straight to the Poo room

Let me scoop you out. Put you with the others. Why does she's poop in the Poo room? She's not an animal Let me scoop you out put you with the others. Why does she's paper in the paper? She's not an animal type. She's not disgusting. Oh god, damn it. You got to get the cheese separate from the butter and the butter. You're at poo. You can't pooly a cheese. Matt. Now, this sentence next sentence is going to absolutely blow your mind. Psychiatrist deemed her mentally incompetent seven times before a judge finally ruled she was fit to be tried in the Thomas case, which is the first man she'd stopped, she'd shot seven or eight times, meaning that she would have had to, this is the man that was

asleep when she shot him, meaning she would have had to have emptied the gun and then reloaded it and then kept shooting. But she was acquitted of that because of her mental state. Now I don't know whether or not she did kill all four of her punters, but she'd killed at least two, so Bill Rothstein knew he shouldn't fuck with her. Sure. Again. Also he wanted access to that sweet cheese. Oh baby. Oh, so gross. The next day, this is after Rothstein's come to the cops and told him about the frozen body in his freezer, Marjorie Dill Armstrong was arrested for the murder of Rodin,

the man in the freezer. 16 months later in January 2005, she pled guilty, but she pleaded guilty but mentally ill and was sentenced to seven to twenty years in a state prison. Wow. Taking to a piano mental state. Bill Rossstein, the man that had confessed, he soon died of lymphoma that he'd been battling. Oh no. So maybe in other recent he was confessing his guilt. And for a couple of years police were under the belief that Brian Wells' death and the body and the freezer meters from where he'd been set apart and had the bomb strapped to his neck was merely an incredible coincidence. Authorities conducted a thousand interviews but had no real clue as to who had strapped

the bomb to Wells on that day. But then in April 2005 the Federal Police got a phone call from a state police officer who had just met with Marjorie D. Lampdrog in prison about an unrelated homicide. Rothstein's suicide note, it seemed, was a lie. D. Lampdrog had said that Rodin's murder had everything to do with the Colobum plot. What? So the man in the freezer, she's alleging, is actually connected to Wells having the colabum strapped around his neck. Right.

When the feds met with Marjorie, she told them that if they could arrange their transfer to a minimum security prison in Cambridge Springs, a facility much closer to Erie. Cambridge Springs sounds like a more like a daisper. It does sound good, doesn't it? Yeah. For a minimum security daisper. Minimum security security and they have like craft craft Noons, oh, and then she can shit in any room she wants

Is heaven made a statue? Okay, my dri it's poo. Yeah Every day I get my hopes up. I think she's found the play-doh She's never found it once She's pooed I. 100 out of 100 days now. poo. Matt your favorite. Matt poo go on hey. Yeah please. Art from poo. Play Do Do. Are you working way too hard for way too little? There's never been a better time to consider a career in IT.

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and that she supplied the kitchen timers that were used in the bomb, and that she was within a mile of the bank at the time of the robbery. But that was a coincidence, quote, a demodery. Sure. She also said, well, the dead pizza delivery driver was not just a victim, but he'd been in on the plan.

And so was Rothstein, the man who had turned her in for Rodin's murder, the man with a freezer, who's gotten back on to the TV tower. In fact, she asserted that Rothstein had masterminded the whole thing. What? So she was pinning it on a man who just died. Pinning it on a dead man. Classic work from Marjorie. Classic Marjorie.

Come on, Marjorie. But authorities finally started putting two and two together, and they started to suspect the eccentric genius sitting in front of them who had formed for at least two motors. Might actually be behind it all. Of course, Marjorie denied this from the get-go, but the case started to build against her when investigators found four separate witnesses that all

testified that she'd talked about the crime in intimate detail. So there's a bit of a slip up. Slight, slight. Slight, Miss Q. Forgotgot I got drunk at the pub. Told everyone. Told the whole small town my plan. Oh, whoops. Should not have tweeted at eerie police, but did. Hey, we've all tweeted at eerie police.

Oh, we've done. And once they drew another. We've all admitted crimes to the eerie police. One of the four witnesses that have come forward had kept notes of the conversation, which in itself is quite suspicious. But they said, which included Deal-E or D'Alem Strong, this is a matter of his, ascitations that she killed Rodin, quote,

D'Alem Strong. Yeah, notice that before? No. One small murder for man. So he alarm from a apparently she told one of them and he'd written this down that she'd killed Rodin the man in the freezer because he was going to tell about the robbery and that she had killed him to stop him from talking about a crime that she'd already told four people about. Sure, that seems reasonable, yeah. Sure. This man also claimed the witness that she'd helped measure Wells' neck for the bomb. He was apparently in on it, according to these people. Sure. A few months later, the

police got another big break when a witness came forward to say that an ex-television repairman turned Crack Dealer, love a slushy, love a slushy actor singer, TV repairman, Crack Dealer. Double threat. Double. Mm-hmm. Wish I had a second threat. Hey. Much your first threat.

Violence. Hahaha. That's my go-to. You're one and only threat. You are very violent. I will get violent. Ironically, you're only, yeah, you're only threat is slashing people. I really want to be a slacking, alright?

Straight for the neck, every time. Got one move and it works. Hey, why improve on perfection? Thank you. Do one thing do it well Yeah, you're a master of one So we've got this slasher X television repairman haven't said his name yet though. Slash crack deal his name's Kenneth Barnes and one of the Crack deal a name Kenneth Barnes. No, what should be skull not a good crack dealer name Kenneth Barnes no what should be skull skull Barnes Kenneth skull Kenny Barnes is a cool name though yeah but not for a crack

dealer sounds like a country singer and I'll do you pub rock yeah it should be okay good name for a crack dealer cracky cracky cracky Joe no that's a bit obvious cocaine Joe put him off put him off the scent heroin People go up to cocaine cocaine Joe and they go you got any crack and he goes how'd you know? Yep, okay, yeah, okay, I Got it more. I don't know the difference Anyway, never mind to go on so Kenneth Kenneth Barnes, apparently he was also involved. This TV repairman, slash crack dealer, our slashy Kenny Barnes involved.

Barnes, he was an old friend of Marjorie's. Oh, old friend, hey? Uh-uh. Probably an old fishing pail. Oh yeah. Did not know of that. Fishing for dick, Marjorie. Oh, okay.

A fish talk, okay, Marjorie? Hey. Checking she has used the butter as a lube. I, Marjorie. Hey, chicken cheese. She is the butter is loob. I've got no doubt about it. It's nasty. Only if she she can't get to the shit room. She is sometimes she's shit for loob. Take your pick. What cheese? Dick cheese. Oh man, I think I picked the cheese. What do you really? Yeah, but I'm surely. Butter, yeah. Natural lubricant. Cheese.

Mother Nature's Loub. Cheese. Butter. Cheese. Mother Nature's Hard and Loub. And I like to... Loub should be hard. You're a rough writer, but...

Yeah, cheese Louise. Cheese Louise. I don't know about that. I'm sorry for starting this. Well, they call me cheese Louise. Cheese Louise this way. Oh, you've heard of me. You're going to be sharing a set up with Co-Cat. I'm sorry for starting this. Well they call me, they call me Cheeslawy's. Cheeslawy's this way.

Oh, you've heard of me. You're gonna be sharing a salad with Kirk Hedjo. The crack deal. We are your talking soft cheeses, right? You're talking like a, like a blue. A Vainy blue. Vainy blue. In all respects.

Oh. But Bansi, our fish, fishermen, old friend of Marjorie, according to a witness had spoken openly about the plan, and his brother-in-law had turned him in when Bans was already in jail on an unrelated drug charge. I mean, he's already in jail. So the brother-in-law wants to get rid of him once and for all. So now facing even more time behind bards behind bars bans

Banzi agreed to a deal then would see him get a reduced sentence if he told them everything you knew about the collar bum Heist so now he's grass and at March Grass and Banz told them exactly what they suspected that Marjory was indeed the mastermind and he gave them a motive as well She needed the money so that she could pay Bands to kill her father. Ah, for fuck's sake, Marjorie. She believed was blowing his fortune money that she expected to do in the bathroom. Oh, you little shit. Fuck you. Or she's gonna be with four murders. Why don't you do it yourself?

Yeah, she's raising money to stop someone losing her money. She's a piece of shit. Just raise the money for you. Don't kill your dad or kill your dad. You don't have to raise the money. Well, I think that what you do is you tell Banzi, hey, kill my dad and then when I get the inheritance, you can have that.

Exactly. She's doing a very inefficient thing. And then she's made this crazy scavenger hunt. Which makes it sound like maybe it's not true. Or maybe she's not fully stable. Well, we know that. We know that. We know that.

We know that. Seven times, she's pretty sure. She's also not stable of bow. You don't fill a room for the stable bow. Although she could have been working on it for a while. You did not fill a room in a day. No. Say hey hey.

What's that say? How does that say? It takes a whole village to fill a room full of shit. No. That's... Hey, hey, hey. That's what I was saying. That's what I was saying. It takes a whole village to fill a room full of shit. That's what I was saying, isn't it? Yeah, I think that's the saying, yeah. I have that in a tapestry above my fireplace. It's beautiful.

But you only have, like, the beautiful thing with tapestry, you just have to say, takes a whole village. Everyone else knows that that finishes. With. To fill a room full of shit. Yeah, well, obviously. Well, I always press his tapestry. Yeah, it takes ages. Press the font size on the first three words.

Yeah. Great. Four, it takes a billage. No, I don't think it takes a, and you're like, you know, a billage, you can fill a whole shit room full of shit. Yeah, if you say it, I don't know where you go. We know, we know. I get it.

So Barnes, he's come forward, our fisherman, and he's grass on up, Marjorie, big time. But be a genius, a little unhidged, and extremely arrogant, I will say. Marjorie still thought that she could outsmart the police. Even when they presented this raft of new evidence against her, including four witnesses that her to talk about it, one's taking notes

and Kenneth Barnes, who's in on the plan, She got very angry in the interrogation and started swearing at the police and at her own attorney. Good. In an attempt to prove her innocence, she agreed to drive around Eerie with the police in order to point out where she was on the day Wells robbed the bank. During the drive, she admitted to being in several of the locations linked to the crime and the scavenger hunt. She told the agent she would provide any more information without receiving an immunity letter. I guess hoping that they'd need her to give them more

information for them to really understand the purpose of the whole crime. So she's like, oh, obviously no a little bit, but if you let me off, I'll tell you all of it. Hmm. But the police had already heard enough. They didn't need mastery to reveal all the details to fully understand this possibly misunderstandable crime. And when I wrote that, I was like, misunderstandingable. I can't believe that's a real word. It's understandable.

Right through my mind a few times. Misunderstandable. I like it. Wrote it out. It did not give me a red line so hopefully that's enough. That's enough. You're you're you're our Miss understandable. Thank you. Thank you. No worries. Like Miss congeniality. Yeah.

I'm Miss understandable. Dave's our master understandable and I'm our sir understandable. Oh. Which is what you call people. Sir. Oh sir. Sir, do you need some help off the ground? You've had a fault. Do you know where you are? Yeah. Grandpa understandable. Yeah that's you. That's my first and last. And last. No vela. You're a crackic-de-less grandpa understandable. See, that's a good Craic-de-lin-a.

Grangio grandpa understandable. Grand-round understandable. I don't know anything I fully and I'm sorry to those words, but you know what I'm saying. Graffa is what came out then. Thanks for having me, you guys. Thanks for having me, you guys. It's been really good to be on the show. Bye, guys. It's been really good to be on the show. Hi, mate.

In July 2007, nearly four years after Wells had died, the US tourney's office in Eerie called a news conference about a major development in the case. It was announced that the investigation was finally over. Marjorie and Barnsey were charged with carrying out the sensational crime, a plot that allegedly dear Armstrong had put into motion. It was also announced that other conspirators were involved in the crime and they were named at the press conference. Bill Rothstein was one the guy who's housed back onto the TV Tower, the man who had also died of cancer so he could not be charged, and also Wells, the purported victim, was

another, also dead so unchargable. It was alleged that Wells had been in on the plan from the start. He had agreed to rob the bank wearing a fake bomb, and the scavenger hunt was just to get out of jail alibi if he got caught. He could say, oh, I was only robbing the bank because I thought I'd die. Genius. Shit. At some point in the scheme, however, unbeknownst to Wells himself, the fake bomb became a real

bomb, and the scavenger hunt became a real race against the clock. The FBI concluded that the entire scavenger hunt was a hoax. The bomb was rigged such that any attempt to remove it would set it off. Wells was destined to die no matter what he did. Oh my god. Wow. Presumably, Marjorie hoped to keep him alive long enough to get the cash from him and then blow him up to cover up her own tracks. Beech!

And then use that money to pay Bansi to kill her dad to get more money. Oh my god. Bansi himself played guilty in September 2008 to the conspiracy and weapons charges involved in the Colobon plot. Because if he's a prior convict, he was sentenced to 45 years behind bars, but he agreed to testify against Marjorie in the hope of getting his sentence reduced. But Marjorie didn't go to trial for some time as she was found to be mentally unfit. Can you believe that? Shit bags. Shit bag? Back full of cheese, back full of butter? You tried to, you, to, uh, bribe the jury.

One bag of shit. Two bags of cheese. Three bags of butter. Wow, that's the order I'd do it in. Yeah, yeah, agreed. Actually, no, I'd do it in no bags of shit. Interesting. Uh, three bags of cheese.

Two bags of butter. Sure, great. Use more cheese and butter. Yeah, you have a cheese. Two bags of butter. Sure. Great. Here's more cheese and butter. Yeah. You have a cheese party. She did eventually regain her mental health, and she was diagnosed with glandular cancer and told she had only three to seven years to live. It's like a ticking time bomb around her neck.

Maybe that's what she was thinking. Carla. The prosecutor decided to go ahead with the trial anyway. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I'd reached out to Wells, our piece of delivery driver who turns out needed cash really quickly. Apparently Wells had been seeing a sex worker twice a month for about five years. With the help of his friend Ken Barnes, the crack dealer, he bought crack, which he then gave to the sex worker in exchange for sex. But in the weeks before the robbery Wells had fallen into debt with his crack dealers and needed cash to pay them off. Jeez, oh my god. I just need just pay her in cash.

Yeah, why is he paying her in crack? I know, it's crazy. That's so weird. I wouldn't be cheaper in cash than crack. Yeah, I don't know, the exchange rate's pretty good over there. Pizzlevania. That's so strange. Pizzlevania.

Pizzlevania pizza pies. Five years who's seeing her as well. Wait. That's so strange. It's an apparent parodipiece of pies. Five years who's seeing her as well. Wait, does this whole thing been in Pennsylvania? Yeah. Neither of them are higher borders. Wow. And they touch each other. To my favorites.

Pennsylvania, no, no. Wow, I'm going to stand. I'm going to strut all that border one day. I'll ride it. Oh, that'll be so good They've so so they have a tristate area. Don't tell me the third stage another banger If it's another one of the greats. Oh, well Cheez my pants

I couldn't think of anything that was relevant You might you might have to go do that one yourself. I think That's another good laugh. I don't know if you can this is a good say but it looks like you can straddle or hire Pennsylvania and West Virginia. Wow West Virginia. But to do that. I can't be the one here. Matt and Mama. Yeah I think that's probably it.

Can't you rude. It has to do that you have to, I think that's probably it. Kerch root. What's it do that you have to swim across the river it looks like? Yeah, some up for it. Have you ever do that? Yeah. Have you swim across the river? So you're higher river?

What? So the inside that river is where the three states meet. Oh, it's nice. Yeah, imagine it's as odd as in that river. Get out, get out. I'm not just imagine. Too much. Can't handle it. No. Stop it. Big shout out to West Virginia. We did not shout out to her now. Well the mountain momma's out there.

Mountain momma. That can't be right. Can't it? What does that mean? No. Okay. I'm so confused. Okay. So it turns out that Wells was probably in on the whole time. That's fucked. I cared for him. I still do. He got his chest ripped out. Yeah, but it was a bomb. I wonder at what point he tried. He was trying to raise money for crack to pay for sex with him. I'm aware of that. The question I was asking was I wonder at what point he realized the bomb was real. Well, at some point in the scheme, unbeknownst to Wells, the fake bomb became a real one

because the scavenger had become real. But at the same time, he knew he's going, it's gonna go off. Why is anyone trying to take it off me? So he knew, right? Yeah. Maybe one they put it on, Marju, it's real. Oh, by the way, it's real, yeah.

Well, what happened was on the witness stand, according to Ken Barnes, the crack dealer, he alleged that Wells only discovered the bomb was, in fact, real when he delivered the pieces to the pizza tower as planned. He was tackled as he tried to sprint away and locked into the device at gunpoint. Right, okay. When he discovered, hang on, that's a real fucking bomb. He probably, yeah, I think at that point he probably knew it was real. I think that was it. Thank you for answering my question. Marjorie took the witness stand to defend herself and of course denied all of this.

Over five hours she ridiculed her own lawyer, cried, she kept saying, is that your argument? That's stupid. She cried, she shouted, she screamed for fanaties across the courtroom. More than 50 times in five hours the the judge sought to cut her off, being like, all right, obstruction, whatever. Objection quiet, quiet, stop, stop, stop, 50 times. Didn't always work. She denied having even ever met Wells. She was like, I only heard him in the day. He was on the news. I don't even know this guy. The jury deliberated for 11 hours and found her guilty on all charges. She was convicted of armed bank robbery,

conspiracy to commit armed bank robbery, and of using a destructive device in the crime. Oh, Matt's just Googled her and show me a picture of it. Like, she looks fucking crazy. She looks. And she looks like the type of woman who's gonna be swearing in a courtroom. And this video is a very like when she's been being she's in an orange jumpsuit in the photo mats

I don't see videos of her um yelling at the press and stuff calling in live. She looks like a rock star to me She looks like someone who would have been She if you told me she was a rock legend. I would have believed her What if I told you that she was a rock legend? I believe you. Right. All in all, she was sentenced to life plus 30 years. So you got a big sentence? Yeah, I mean, not the most realistic, is it?

You got to serve your entire life and then some. Yeah, what does that mean? And we're going to keep your body in that cell for another 30 years. Some of the serial killers get sentenced to like 996 years jail. Because life doesn't mean you can't get out if you're sentenced to life, honey. Yeah, you can. But if you get life for 30 years, it's pretty hard.

Makes it tricky. Especially if you're dying of cancer. Good point. Bryan Wells family continue to deny that he had any involvement with a case to this very day. May it tell you that he was an innocent victim of a sick crime? To be honest, that's hard to argue that he had nothing to do with it, because he was there. I mean, there's footage of him blowing up. So he was definitely involved even if it was just

this the victim. I mean, he's not wrong, but... Thank you. A Kenneth Barnes was sentenced to 45 years initially, but because of his testimony against Marjorie, that was brought down to 20 years. 25 years initially but because of his testimony against Marjorie that was brought down to 20 years and Marjorie herself fun on that here. Marjorie D. alarm strong died in prison of natural causes on April 4th 2017 so not very long ago. Oh come on. Wow geez I really didn't know much about this story at all leaving Barnes the only one still alive presumably still in prison because Wells got blown up Rothstein had cancer Martry died in prison of cancer

Kenneth Barnes are the only one left. Has Kenny Barnes released any albums since being in prison? He has Prison's really stopped his workflow His output is It'll do that Little to none He's just getting a little raiding and cardio in

Oh wow okay Maybe yeah maybe he's right and some tunes He's just getting a little raiding and cardio in. Oh, well, okay. Maybe, yeah, maybe he's writing some tunes. But it doesn't have a lot of time record. But that is the story of the Colourbomb Highson. I've also called the Pizza Bomber. Pizza Bomber. I kind of like that better, to be honest. Have you been getting hungry during this episode?

Always. I'm always thinking about it. There are people out there who have definitely ordered a pizza during this episode. Oh, that'd be. I kind of want the pizza delivery. I just rock up with a neck a bomb with a neck He's a rugby player. Yeah, we want only rugby players delivery our pizza from now on We want necklace freaks necklace freaks wanted So pizza delivery very specific pizza delivery company Wow, what is it?

What is it? That is an absolutely crazy story. I was absolutely hooked when I first read that. So thank you Lee Morant for suggesting that. If you know any other crazy stories that we may have heard of over here in Oz, or maybe we've just missed, you can always suggest them. It's that, that was only suggested one time. One time we've suggested.

Wow, amazing. Because when you you said it I was thinking that It was lighter than that, but wasn't it like a it was here in Melbourne and there was a School girl. Yeah, that's what I was thinking Yeah, I was like oh, yeah, I didn't know that was I didn't know as in Melbourne But I do remember there was a school girl Color Color mom and she sort of had a bit of the didn't she ever bit of the Stockholm syndrome maybe?

I don't know. I'm really very vague on the memory. I can't, I'm very vague on the memory. I just remember they've been a Colour bomb and it been in the news. Well, perhaps it wasn't a real bomb. Was that, was that voted on by the petrons? That, well, I should have said that at the start. So I put three topics into the the Patreon vote. What happens is I put three topics in for my upcoming episodes and then anyone who's a patron of ours gets to vote on them. I put three in there as I always do it. The topic was murder and crime. Oh good luck. That one. There's some other great topics in there which I won't spoil because I like to do them another time. That got over 50% of the votes. Wow.

People were keen to... And what was it called in the vote? The Colobum Heist. Colobum Heist, yeah, that is catchy. It sounds intriguing. Mm-hmm. I'd click on that. Me too.

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good word about their show here is a little excerpt of one of the episodes and hopefully will become your new favorite podcast. Second favorite. Your new second favorite podcast. Is there anything else that we could be putting in sausages other than meat? Just a sausage. What would people use it for sex?

Or... I don't know, I listed. But also, like, you don't have sex with it in the way that you're picturing you would have sex with the sausage. Okay, so... You would have sex with it in the way you would have sex with the person. Well, I have sex with people in the way

that I have sex with a sausage. Imagine coming to the soup market and buying a single sausage. Yeah. You wouldn't be able to do that. She wouldn't be able to do it without smirking. But what about other things that could come in sausages? Like, I don't want to say inspirational quotes. By the way, this is our 80th episode.

I feel like that's momentous in some way. That's very impressive. What's interesting about the number 80 is that if you hold it on the side, it kind of looks like two eyes and an open mouth, sort of ready to eat a sausage All right, thank you guys so much. I think we have we've got to come up with an idea maybe with a sausage in it Thank you so much We'd like we hear that is too in the think tank you can check them out on wherever you download this podcast. They'll be there

Okay, we'd like to thank, as well as Planet Broadcasting, our network. We'd also like to thank people that support the show via Patreon.patrion.com, so let's do go on pod, is where your little pledges every month keep the show rocking and rolling. And in exchange for those pledges, you get our undying love and also some gifts in exchange, including bonus episodes Access to tickets before to live shows before other people get a vote on topics You vote on topics Matt does some newsletters sometimes So we can we pretty much do whatever you like people don't people don't push it there too much I'm always like let me know what more you want us want from us on the patreon What do you want? What do you want from me? And they're just like hey? We just want to support you

Yeah, we love you guys you What do you want from me? And they're just like, hey, we just want to support you. Yeah, we love you guys. You guys do you. And it's like, ah, thank you. Very lovely, but I just feel like I want to give them more. Yeah. I want you to give more. Yeah, look, I'd love to right now give a little love to a couple of friends, including Gorge Gita from South Yorkshire. Wow. All of that's great, right? An amazing name and amazing location. The Gurg is one of my favorite bands of the... Still is one of my favorites,

the 90s and the 90s. Regurgitate us. Regurgitate us. In South Yorkshire, I don't know if Gurgs were the part of the Gurg. I wonder. I'll put, maybe I'll post a Gurg song. Yeah, Regurgitate us.

A very cool 90s Aussie band. Yeah, they had great classic songs, like I sucked a lot of cock together I am, and blah, blah, boy. And what was that polyester girl? That was the big one. That was the big one as well. Yeah, and I like your old stuff better than you knew stuff.

That was a good one. I'd also love to thank Chris Brockett from Randwick in New South Wales, which is where one of the big race courses is in Sydney, Randwick. Good on you, Brockett. I hope you will be seeing you at the Sydney show. Yeah, we hope to see you there. We hope to see you there as well, to be honest, but I just don't know who's going to be able to make it.

They're Brisbane band, Dave. Let's get real. Pudded? No, I don't know. Chris Brockett from Randwick he sounds cool, right? I bet he's a I bet he's a guitarist Brockett rock rock it No, no, he's an astronaut. Yeah, that makes no sense the Brockett rocket We should try and guess these people's hobbies because a couple weeks ago we guessed heights and apparently we were pretty damn accurate We've also guessed net worth before as well. No one told us if we were all right with my net worth. Because they're humble.

Yeah, no one wants to admit that they're worth 900 million euros. So I think Gerge is a rock star and Chris Brockett is an astronaut. Okay, great. Okay, Jess, who have you got? Can you beat a rock star in an astronaut? I'm not sure, so I would like to thank a name that I'm definitely going to miss pronounced and I'm very sorry But I'm going to give it my bloody best. I'd like to thank from London Zachary didn't I got that bit right

Fortes gone When you're gonna miss pronounced a bit say again Don't make me say it again. Please say it again. Zachary Fortes gone could be forte What do you think is Forte is? I think Zachary's Forte is model trains. Wow. Yeah. As a job or hobby?

Or a jobie? Hobby. Hobby, okay. Yeah. When I said Gerd was a rock star, was it. They's making a living out of that Yeah, that's not a hobby and Chris Brock it he's a hobby astronaut Okay, obviously, well, I would also like to think Benjamin McRobbie from not in Humsha Benjamin McRobbie no Robin Hoods from

Nottingham, that's notting yeah, yeah, so I think Benjamin McRobbie. No, Robin Hood's from? Not in him? No, not in...yeah. Yeah, so I think Benjamin McRobbie runs as a hobby, a small souvenir shop. Oh, what kind of souvenir is? Like a gift shop? Robin Hood merchandise and Margot Robbie merchandise. Wow. Wow.

Through the double there. The double, but you got it. Yeah, that's what I think, isn't it open? Robbie merchandise. Wow. Wow. Both. Through the double there. The double, but you got it. Yeah, that's what I think. Well, guys, I would like to thank some hobbyists, some professionals, some amazing people that support the show, all the way from Hollywood, no, L would. Oh. The Hollywood of Melbourne.

The Hollywood, it's so is, it's so is. And I assume that Jesse is a professional surfer because of their life on the coast. I would like to thank Jesse Britain. Jesse Britain. Thank you Jesse Britain. What's Jesse's hobby? Well surfing. Yeah.

Okay. Collecting shells. From the beach. No. Oh. Of turtles. Oh no Jesse. Oh no Jesse

I think maybe Jesse. Oh sex is when a man and a woman or a man and a man or a woman and a woman or other combinations as well Love each other not necessarily either But could at least you generally're in the same place. Not always, obviously, you can have internet sex or phone sex. Um, look, it's hard to really narrow it down, I understand why you don't know what the sex is. Okay, great. But I'm, what I'm trying to say is that Jesse maybe kills turtles and collects their shells.

Oh my god, okay, wow. Maybe. I'm gonna gonna I'm guessing that Jesse does not. That's also my guess. I'll see there are yes or no, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. We're voting. Well I think we've actually made it 66.6 recurring 33 points really recurring there. So you know what I mean? I would also like to thank finally from Brunswick not far from where we are right now. Wow That is what I would like to thank Amy

Devaro Amy Devaro I think is a shoe collector. Oh, that's interesting because I know Amy and as do I don't know she has a big shoe collection Oh, well, I didn't know she has a big shoe collection. Oh well I didn't know that a better. Pairs. Really? Amy Defer has 9,000 pictures. What's very modest about it? What shoe size is she? Because I'd like to borrow them.

Nine. Yes! Is that good? Yeah. Well, that's my shoe size. Thousand. Sorry. Nine, that's a big fate.

I did not notice. She's got a warehouse. She hides it so well. Much like us. But thank you Amy. Thank you so much Amy. We do appreciate that. You are a friend in life and a friend on the Patreon. She's got a warehouse. She hides it so well. Much like us. But thank you. I mean thank you so much Amy We do appreciate that you are a friend in life and a friend on the patreon and Jesse Britain in Elwood

Thank you so much for killing all those turtles. No if you're supporting the show But not turtles you did not support turtles Jesse Britain You did not support Turtles, Jesse Britton. How dare you. I thought I liked Jesse Britton. Yeah, I was like, cool, Jesse Britton, that's awesome. Now, it's really flipped to you, because I'm defending it. You're great, Jesse. You're great.

No, good on you, Jesse. Thanks so much. You can get in contact on email. Do go on pot at gmail.com and at do go on pot for Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. But until next time, I will say thank you and good luck. Later. Bye. Bye.

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