Doug Loves Movies - Bob Odenkirk Guests

Episode Date: November 19, 2006

Director Bob Odenkirk ('Let's Go To Prison,' 'Mr. Show') joins Doug to discuss his upcoming film projects, Martin Scorsese's 'The Departed,' and his all-time favorite movies.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming baby sticky seeds With 50 acid pop or kernels in his teeth There's still not one that he won't see Cause Doug loves movies Hey everybody! Welcome to I'm Doug and I love movies! I love the crap out of them. Oh, good, good.

My guest has arrived. Excellent. I have to talk a little first before I bring him out, but I'll make this quick. There's lots of great, we're coming to you live at the UCB Theater

in front of a live audience. Our biggest yet, I believe, or close to it. And they do lots of great shows here at the Upright Citizens Brigade Theater, so if you like laughing and shit, go to ucbtheater.com for more details of shows here at UCB.

I just wanted to tell a quick story before I bring out the guest today. I go to movies a lot, and here's a fun thing you can do if the opportunity presents itself. I was at the movies with my friend Ken one time, and a fellow sat down in front of us, and the movie had started,

and the theater was dark, and when he sat down, some change fell out of his pockets, and the guy got down on his hands and knees and picked up the change off of the disgusting movie theater floor. Must have had some pirate doubloons or something in there that he didn't want to lose. And got back up into his seat.

And a few minutes later, Ken and I dropped all of our change under his seat. And the guy did it again. And didn't seem to notice that he suddenly had a lot more change. All right. And didn't seem to notice that he suddenly had a lot more change. All right, my guest today on I Love Movies is a very talented writer, performer, director, denture wearer. I'm kidding. He's actually got... He doesn't have dentures.

He's got two movies that he directed coming out, which is two more than I have. Please welcome, from Mr. Show, Larry Sanders, and lots of other funny stuff, Bob Odenkirk, everybody. Hey. Hey. Hello, World Wide Web. Did one of your kids give you

that line? It's a nice table, but it's not Doug Loves Tables, so if you could whip it around, too, it's a real fake table. Wow. And you can hold that if you'd like, because then you'll be more on it. Wow. The microphone, I should say.

Listeners don't know. How was Padgett? Padgett was awesome, and this was all we talked about. I didn't ask you how she looked. I'm about i'm gonna move on to oh she looked great but she was on last week and uh now this is this week feels like it's been a week since then there's a lot of i do a lot of talk up top so have, have you been to the... I'll do a week, then you come out. Have you been to the movies lately? I know you're busy making them.

Have you actually gone out to the cinema? I saw The Departed by Martin Scorsese. Any thoughts on that, or would you rather drop it? No, no. You know, I thought it was... Thank God he used Gimme Shelter again. Might as well just... I can't believe he didn't use it in, you know, that one, the Gangs of New York.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm with you on that. Boy, the music was like... Masturbation of Christ. Music was like somebody fell asleep with the records on, with the jukebox, their finger on, like, play all. Just throughout the whole, you know, these scenes. It was a pretty awful bar when that happened.

Yeah, it was. We got all the music from Scorsese's earlier work. Go ahead, you can use it. You know, it was all his old, I don't know, look. I was reading in Entertainment Weekly, he said he was inspired to use Gimme Shelter again because he heard it in a guy's car stereo when he was walking down the street.

He was trying to think of what song to use, and he heard it and he goes, that's the one! That one I've used twice before! Yeah, I know, The music really was... It was hackneyed Scorsese music. It was not good. Except for the Dropkick Murphy song was awesome, I thought.

It really felt like a mistake. It really felt like I'm watching a rough cut, and they forgot to change out that music. Yeah, and they also accidentally left in that final shot. Which was the final shot? You know, that... You don't want to give it away. ...globed building

and the rat running around. Oh, that was from a Mr. Show sketch. That was sketch level movie making. But overall, were there things about it you liked, though?

You know, the performances were loads of fun and he's still fun with the camera, doing things that make the shots that are dynamic and really entertaining to watch. And then that's the end of it. So, you know, I mean, it's weird. It's like there's certain people who are proficient, very proficient at moviemaking.

I think Wes Anderson's last movie, too, is one that, like, I can watch, like, I think I could watch The Departed, like, I could watch 15-minute increments of that, like... All the time. All the time. On cable or whatever. Yeah, but I don't need to see the whole thing, because it doesn't amount to anything, and it doesn't

really... When it's over, you go, really? That's the story they wanted to tell. Yeah, yeah, so... you go, really? That's the story they wanted to tell. Yeah, yeah. So pretty much everyone... It's great that he's so good that he can make any ten minutes awesome. Like every ten minutes is great, but end to end they don't really get you anything. Yeah, I'm starting to feel that way about all of his movies.

Oh, Scorsese? Yeah, I mean, there's a couple that beginning to end work perfectly, but he is, you're right, it is fun to watch parts of his movies. Well, that's pretty good, though. That's really good. Because I've made three movies, and I wouldn't say you could watch any ten minutes of

all of them, and it would be equally entertaining. Well, I don't want to start a fight. I don't want to have a fight with you. But don't want to start way way down i don't want to have a fight but melvin goes to dinner i i can watch and i can watch any 10 minutes of that because the it's the conversation is really interesting that's true but there's a lot the parts that aren't conversation aren't so great but the conversation is great blyden wrote it really really i agree with you on that it's kind of like one of those things where it's a great little thing to pop into.

You stop anywhere and you start watching and it's entertaining. But anyways, I mean, look, you know, I'm just trying. I'm just learning. I really am. I feel like I'm just really learning and I hope I get a chance to get good. Look, Scorsese, the first few out of the box for him weren't so great. You have Mean Streets, Taxi Driver. He wasn't good right at the beginning.

It took him a few. It took him some time. I've never been gifted at anything I've done. My scenes at Saturday Night Live are like, if you saw the first three years of my scenes, you would ask me to leave and tell me,

I'm sorry, you're no good i mean it really took me a long time to learn i wanted to learn i had a you know energy about it i felt like i could learn it but uh i also could feel while i was doing it like god i have such a long way to go and not in a fake uh false humility way which a lot of people have, who have achieved anything, that whole thing, I don't know why you like me, you know? Right. You know, there's so many stars who are like,

what, you like me? Yes! Your movies make $200 million. They fucking like you. Stop acting like you don't get it. You should be one of the first to know that you're charismatic. That should strike you at some point

during the process. Just in a really simple, honest way, I know that I really have faith that if I can make a couple movies, there will come one that is really solid beginning to end. But I just feel like I need to learn. So, anyhow, It's hard. So, opening November 22nd, which is right around the time that this podcast will be running. Let's go to prison.

Let's go to prison. A lot of fun. A lot of fun to shoot that movie. We shot in a prison near where I grew up. A huge stone edifice that, when I was a kid kid my dad drove us by this prison. Like when I was like seven or eight before my dad left. Boo hoo!

What does that have to do with movies? Get back on point. It's only a good story for a movie. No. Make a comedy about prison. So he drove you by Is it Jol joliet by joliet correctional facility right on the road that i used when we were shooting it drove many times to go to the prison to shoot and uh he i remember when when we were looking for locations and somebody said what about joliet

i was like oh shit that would be. I know that prison from outside. And he drove us by when I was a kid, and he said, boys, that's a prison. And that's it. And I saw it, and you're this close, and I remembered it forever. And then when I went back to shoot the movie, I was like, that road that we drove,

we must have been going somewhere. It must have been inadvertent that we were driving by the prison. But what I realized when I went there to shoot was like he went out of his way. Yeah, it's not, that's not on the way to anywhere. There's no reason to drive down that road

unless you want to show somebody a prison. A boy, an impressionable couple of boys. Did it look that bad from the outside? Yeah. It's a lot of barbed wire. It's scary. Oh, okay. It is like...

They shot Prison Break there as well, right? They did. We actually used some of their sets, which saved us a lot of money. We made this movie very cheap. It was an independent film that Universal bought. They say, they've told me it's the cheapest movie that Universal's ever bought. But I don't believe that because I got to believe in the 30s you could make a movie for less than $5 million. You could make like a huge budget film, you know.

Yeah, maybe they just lost the paperwork. But yeah, I think they meant as far as like, you know, with inflation and stuff. As far as like, you know, with inflation and stuff. It was an independent film, and Universal's releasing it as a Universal film, not as a, like... But I found out today it's not going to be reviewed. What does that tell you? That usually means, P.U. But there are exceptions. Snakes on a Plane turned out to be terrific without being screened for the critics.

You know what I think, though? I think people are going to respect the acting's fantastic. There's some great lines. And it moves along. The story gets a little thick at times and trips over itself a few times. Do you give it a thumbs up or a thumbs down? Oh, I give it a thumbs up.

I love how honest you are about it, though. It's out right now. People listening to this could run out to see it. Well, I don't know if they need to run, but you probably need to get out there within the first two weeks. Do you think any... Unless you want to only, you know,

if you want to pay $3 to see it at the second run place. That's true. That's fun. But I think it's going to be fun, and it's neat that they're programming it on Thanksgiving because it really is a mean little movie. Really? It's funny and mean.

And, you know, it's funny because I tell comedy writers about the movie, and I go, the thing about it is it's just so mean i mean all the characters in it are assholes like all of them and they all just want to hurt each other and you know what none of them grow not one of them grows and all my comedy writer friends are like yeah great i like it i want to see that movie yeah everything i'm saying that is like i don't know know if America's going to go for it. And then they hear, keep talking. It's great. Sounds great.

But I think that's, it really, the script appealed to me because of all those things. It was surprising in, you know. Well, it's surprising just from the title because like every prison movie is about trying to get out and finally you've made a prison movie saying let's go to prison let's get up in there and see what happens yeah and then the people

are probably upset about what happens yeah and I do think there's like really great performances Michael Shannon is in it, Shy McBride they're fantastic Michael Shannon the guy that was in Bug off-Broadway? He was in Bug off-Broadway. And now he's in the movie version of that.

I just read that today. Oh, yeah. And he was also in Oliver Stone's recent film. Yeah, I saw that guy walking down the street one time, and he's creepy. He's a serious dude. He's serious. Well, he's a scary dude in my movie. I basically said to everybody, just play it straight.

Just be serious about this. And they were. Dax Shepard is amazing. He's really funny and really intense. I love that guy. Did you see... He's great. Zathura?

No, I didn't. He's really good. I heard he's great. I heard he's the best thing. Yeah, I don't understand why that movie was... Why people weren't into it. Really? Yeah, I think people must have had a beef with Jon Favreau.

He must have done something to them. You know, I feel like... So they skipped it. It's a really good family movie. It just didn't... The preview I saw on it just sort of didn't sink in. It, like, didn't hit. It's weird.

And our trailer for Let's Go to Prison is really working. I mean, people love it. People are happy. Yeah, really happy. So I honestly... It's a good little movie. It is. I'm proud of it.

And then this new film I just did, The Brother Solomon, is like 180 degrees from that in that it's extremely sweet, extremely lighthearted. Were you tempted to go 360 degrees? Well, no. Just right back to more of the same? That'll be the next one. The Brother Solomon go to prison. I'm just going to flip-flop. And who's in Brother Solomon?

It's also Will Arnett, right? Will Arnett. Now, interesting, the entire cast is people named Will, am I right? No. Will Forte and Will Arnett. Oh, okay. And then Shy McBride again, also. His real name is Will.

Both those guys are in both the films I've done. And Kristen Wiig and Malin Ackerman. Who's Malin Ackerman? Malin Ackerman. She was in The Comeback, which I didn't see much of. Oh, the Cudro show. Oh, yeah, yeah. The girl that you see her naked.

I've seen her naked and everything she's been in, I think. And she's in Entourage. Yeah, naked. And... I like her. She's nearly naked in my movie. Oh, okay. She's got a swimsuit on, but it's wet. And that Brother Solomon comes out in August?

August of 07? Yeah, next August. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. We're not done with it. I'm working really hard. We tested it twice, and we're doing some just recutting,

and then I'm going to shoot this little prelude that's like 40 seconds long, and then there's this memory sequence that we've never shot that we now have to shoot. It's like a hole in the movie that we left that we've got to go shoot now. All right. Yeah, i'm having a great time and i like both these movies and they're both funny and offbeat and i think that there's great performances through throughout both films i think that uh you know on mr show a lot of the stuff um you know especially in the later years, were written by Brian Poussaint and Scott and BJ.

And in that way, it was their sensibility. And then I tried to help make it whatever tighter and try to deliver on it. And that's the case with both these films because I didn't write either of them. You just came in and... Tom Lennon and Ben Grant wrote the first one and Will Forte wrote this most recent one. Awesome. And then what is The Fuck Up?

I looked you up on IMDb. You know, IMDb is kind of crazy and I have some problems with IMDb, but I mean, it's a great service. I check it all the time, but The Fuck Up is a book that I loved and I bought and I adapted and I got a cast and I don't have the money to shoot it. And I've met with producers.

It's on IMDb already. Well, they put it on. Up and running. When I cast it two and a half years ago, they put it up. It's like, well, you know, it's one of those things where it's an indie movie and you get the cast and then you go out to producers and you go, here's who I've got. And it's not in production. I mean, just I'm trying to get the cast and then you go out to producers and you go here's who i've got and it's not in production i mean just i'm trying it's called the fuck up mistakes are going to be made you have to you have to give them that maybe i cursed it by naming it after the book maybe that was well that's also you would obviously i don't have to change the title

here's my problems with IMDb. It's okay to make mistakes, but things are set in stone there. It's like that's in there now, and it's crazy because it's been up there for two years, and I've never had the money to make it. It's never been in production, but it just stays there, and they don't check or fix it or they don't ask. It's just fucked up. Yeah, you just have to be registered to give them any tidbits you want. Yeah.

Like, did you know Paget Brewster is friends with John Cryer? That's on her IMDb page. Oh, wow. That she's friends with a guy. I'm happy for her because I thought she was a total shut-in but she has the one friends friend we uh well i i i almost said we like this show is anything but just me and a guest but uh i remember that you once said um that if you could marry a movie do you remember saying this right you would marry crimes and misdemeanors

the woody allen film yeah i'd marry showgirls just because i'd want to get a little action out of it but uh why'd you say that i mean it's a funny thing to say but oh you also love that movie i do love that movie there's a couple movies that i just love that i watch over and over and over. I kind of think a lot of people like you watch every movie, and I have a lot of friends who are writers, and they kind of go to as many movies as they can. And I've always been... You narrowed it down to three.

I tried to do that for a little while. When I first went to Saturday Night Live, I was like, all my writer friends went to every movie. I was like, of course, you have to see everything. You're in the business. No, you you don't right i mean i really and i just i'm not going to ever be that person so i i kind of i go to movies that are compelling to me uh if i can i have two kids so that makes it a little harder i'll say um you know i get them on netflix but i do tend to watch there's about 10 movies that I watch over and over and over.

And Crimes and Misdemeanors is one of them. It's a great movie. It's got everything. It really does. It's got comedy and drama. And it's a perfect mix. The mix isn't weird. Yeah, it never pushes you on the drama.

And it's got something to say that's pretty bleak. I don't necessarily agree with it. I was telling a Law & Order fan how kick-ass Sam Waterston is in that movie as the blind priest that has to have a conversation with Woody Allen about why would God do that to you? How can Landau win an Oscar for ed wood and not win one for crimes and misdemeanors i mean they should just give him one every time he was awesome in that tucker movie about the car car making oh i didn't see that and he should win an oscar for his work on entourage

even though it was a tv show what about baps and he was great in baps got to bring up the baps back in the 70s there was there was like several movies like mash and like with uh the initials but that sort of went away for a while until baps brought it back oh in a big way big way big huge way floodgates thank you baps well so give me a couple more examples of like that you can watch it over and over again like that uh with nail and i really oh yeah that's a hilarious movie but i've only seen it the one time oh it's great Examples of like that you can watch it over and over again like that? With Neil and I. Really? Oh, yeah. That's a hilarious movie, but I've only seen it the one time.

Oh, it's great. It's like meant to be watched over and over because it's got these monologues that are incredible, that are just sort of juicy. You could just, you know, flip through it and just watch those, you know. Give us one like that maybe people have heard of. I'm just joking. The thing about the dishes in the sink. Oh, that one.

And how they're alive. The fucking grossest sink ever. And how about the drug dealer? Look, man, you don't have to get all angry about everything. Don't challenge me. He challenges the guy to take more drugs than him. Oh man, you're going too far.

He's so awesome, that guy. Give me one more. Give me a third one that you watch constantly. Hoosiers. I was just in Indianapolis and I tried to make fun of Hoosiers on stage, and they weren't having it.

Boo! They were not having it. No. Because I do this whole bit about movies that are bad to watch when you're high, and in front of all these people in Indianapolis, I go, you know the worst movie to watch when you're high? Hoosiers. And then they just all boo.

I say, no, Hoosiers, not Boo-siers. So, but that is... There's more. Bullets Over Broadway. Oh, yeah. When Jennifer Tilly gets killed, it's probably the most satisfying murder of a lady ever. So great. Yeah.

So there's probably a few Woody Allen ones in there. Oh, The Last Detail? A lot of the old ones. Oh, yeah, with... The Last Detail A lot of the old ones Oh yeah, with The Last Detail Randy Quaid in his first role Chinatown Chinatown's another great one

Watch those over and over Wow, you like really great movies You know, yeah, I do Thank you You're a connoisseur of movies that everyone already said are great Kind of them And you just pile on Kind of them

Did they come first or did I? Well, you were in Monkey Bone. I was. I kind of liked Monkey Bone. You did? I have to say. I've never seen it. I didn't hate Monkey Bone.

I've never seen it. Well, you should check it out sometime. Let me tell you about Monkey Bone. Certainly the best screen work Chris Kattan has ever done. His sequence is really good and you're in the same sequence, I believe.

Yes. I've never seen it. I felt bad for Henry Selick who directed it. He worked on that movie for years. And I was at this REM concert that I got into from a friend and he was there

in this VIP section section thank you very much that means uh very very very important people okay whatever and uh he said would you be in my movie I keep calling your uh managers they don't call me back and I go oh shit man I'm sorry I'll do that whatever you know what this conversation goes like you've done this before right I go just tell me when I'll just do it feeling guilty automatically doing it just out of guilt

like I don't know and it was true nobody ever told gave me the script or asked me anything you know I'm sure whatever you sort of played

the character that way too well anyhow he the character is right I don't know yeah so anyways and I want you to tell me what you like about it,

because I did look at the script and I thought, wow, this is intense. This script is really wild. And I knew what Henry had done, Nightmare Before Christmas, and that was interesting, and he was a great guy. And he told me he's been working on this thing for years. Anyways, I said, yeah, okay, whatever, I'll do it. You know, I mean, if I asked you to do something for a day, you know, a movie, you'd probably go,

sure, if I'm free that day, I'll go do your movie. Yeah, I'm kind of waiting for that call, but yeah, I'd say yes. But, you know, you do things for other people, and people help you. Melvin Goes to Dinner we made for nothing. Jack Black, David Cross, everyone just did it for free to help me out, you know. And you just do those things out you know and and you

just do those things you know and uh i didn't really know henry but he seemed like a great guy and he really wanted me to do it which is nice because that's rare too but you could never have anticipated monkey bone fever listen i showed up and i and i'd read my part of the script thank you i'm a pro and it's you know i'm a doctor and i'm taking these organs out and and and i figure you know it's gonna be dark this movie's dark the guy goes to hell and all and and there's no blood i guess show up and i'm putting i'm doing the thing i'm like okay right before the shoot i go so okay but where's the blood when are we going to get the blood and he goes because that's the joke right i'm like slipping around in blood right and he goes oh they won't let us do blood yeah so i had like ky

like this guy had ky in his body like he didn't have blood he had he lived off ky because it was clear and i was like and and in inside me i just went, then you're not making this movie, are you? You know what I mean? You're not making the script that I read. And I feel like Henry also, some part of him also went, yeah, I know. You're right. But I finally got the money after four years. And one of the things I had to do to get the money was I had to promise there wouldn't be bloody sequences.

And I had to agree to Brendan Fraser. And it's basically a very weird thing where, like I had a movie that somebody said, I will make this movie if you cast Avril Lavigne in it. It's made. It's done. You got the money. And I was like, I can't do that. I can't do that. Oh, well, yeah.

So someone else made Over the Hedge. She's a voice of a positive. I don't know if she's a good actress or a bad actress, but it would be different

if they'd said you have to audition her. Then I would have said, fine, I'll audition her. And then she'll spit on you when she's done. I don't really know what she's like. She's a spitter. But you see you get in a spot like that.

You take a guy, Henry, he's worked for years on this script. He really believes in this project. And, you know, the last two things they say are, we will give you the $15 million, no blood. And it's hard to say no. And we do want to see Dave Foley's ass. They asked for that? Yeah, well, I think so, because it's in there. Anyways, tell me why you like it.

Tell me about it. I saw it the one time. I haven't revisited it. Right. But that sequence in particular is really funny because chris katan then starts running around with after you've taken out all of his organs right and it's incredibly physical performance and very entertaining and aspects of it are entertaining because it does have the uh you know the way the movie's designed is really cool like i did go into it thinking oh

this is the guy who did nightmare before christmas yeah so it's going to look neat at least you know and i kind of worried it'd be like a Tim Burton thing, where it looks neat, but then that's the whole show. And it kind of is. But I think the movie was such a tremendous flop, and I think it's remembered as not being good. Oh, yeah. And I wanted to set the record straight.

It's got some integrity. Yeah. And, of course, Henry Selick has made hundreds of great movies since then. I don't think he's done anything yet. No, he's got something coming up. Something's going to... Some animated thing, I think. Yeah.

All right. Well, good for him and good for you. Check the time. We're almost out. All right. Now, we play this game, Leonard Maltin, at the end of the show. Awesome. Every episode.

Do you know how to play it? No, I played a thing with that at a party once. Is it? I think it's basically you pick a movie that you think the other person's heard of. You say the title. No, you don't say the title. You read the description. No, you don't read the description. You

say the year first and then you list the cast from the bottom up and the person stops you when they think they know it. I'm going to be terrible at this. Well, you can do one to me. That's not hard to do. Okay, I'll do that. So pick one out and tell me the year.

And it's one I think you would know, yeah? Yeah. And while you're looking, let me ask you. IMDB, the cursed IMDB, says that you are sometimes credited as Vance Hammersley. Now, that's not true, right? No, no. That's not even the right name. Isn't it a different? No, yes, it's wrong. His name's Van Hammersley. Yes that's not true, right? That's not even the right name. His name's Van Hammersley.

Yes, it's wrong. On the Ben Stiller show, I used the name Van Hammersley in the Manson Lassie sketch. I used it for Andy Dick

was Van Hammersley. And Van Hammersley. Right. And I just liked it a lot. It's really stupid. So you use it whenever you're in porn? I have used it once or twice since then,

but I have no idea when, and I do not think it was... Weren't those instructional videos sketched that you did? Wasn't that Van Hammersley? Yes, it was. Doing the pool, tricky pool shots.

I was credited as him. That was a sketch at a TV show. I'm not credited as every dumb character I ever played. Sometimes credited. They're idiots. Sometimes credited as guy in cape. It's a big toilet. Just a toilet of shit, of information.

All right, do you have one for me? No, I'm trying to find something that might be a challenge for you, because that's not easy. Oh, yeah. This is a movie I was almost in, but I didn't do it. Oh, good clue. Chris, oh, the year? Year didn't do it. Oh, good clue. Oh, the year? Year, yeah. 1998.

Oh, okay. Christina Ricci. That's the last name on the list? Wow, she had a small part in something in 98. Okay, keep going. Sarah Michelle Gellar. Gellar. Okay, keep going. This, uh, Sarah Michelle Gellar. Gellar. Okay, keep going.

Harry Shearer. What the shit? Wow. Keep going. Michael McKeon. Oh. Those guys have been in some movies together. Christopher Guest.

All three of them. And Sarah Michelle Gellar and Christopher... Clint Walker. Who the fuck... Clint Walker. Who the fuck is Clint Walker? George Kennedy. Oh, man. Bruce Dern. Jim Brown.

Ernest Borgnine. Frank Langella. Tommy Lee Jones. Robert Picardo. Dick Miller. Wait, wait, wait. Stop, stop, stop. It's a Joe Dante movie.

Right? Oh, shit. Wendy Shaw. Yes, she's in every one. David Cross. Oh, Small Soldiers. Yep. Ding, ding, ding, ding.

Small Soldiers. You're awesome. Well, Dick Miller's in every Joe Dante movie I didn't know that You crazy trivia head David and I were invited in to make that movie By Joe We went and had a meeting

I don't think they had a movie They were working on the script But they were going to shoot it in like two months And the thing, it came from The way they told it to us is this guy designed these toys and he showed them to us. He was going to sell them. He was going to sell them on the market.

He's a toy designer, famous toy designer. And we said, wait, wait, wait. Don't sell them yet. Let's make a movie about them first. And make sure that you can never sell them. Fuck you. Just make the fucking toys. And what did David Cross say where's the money

yeah thanks for the money yeah I don't know if you did the wrong thing I didn't that's another one I didn't hate it's not good

but I didn't hate it it's uh well I know it's pretty violent for a kids movie so I like that you know yeah

I mean look you know I'm learning and it's just so hard to get a movie made, and people compromise. You look at Scorsese. He said from now on he's going to make low-budget films. I mean, you know he's not.

That's a statement about The Departed. That's a statement he's making. He's saying, you know what, I'm sick of it. Too much pressure when there's that much money. And you know that for the studio, people always think, you know, well, Scorsese,

he can make any movie he wants. They're still going like, I don't know, Marty, you got something that's got everybody and it's got your music going. Yeah. Just do that, you know. Yeah.

But he's going, he's going, I want to do a movie about gangs and the leader of one gang wears a top hat. And they say Wait a second How much is this going to cost us

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