Doug Loves Movies - Jimmy Pardo, Matt Belknap, and Pat Francis Guest

Episode Date: July 21, 2010

On this special "in-studio" edition of Doug Loves Movies, Doug welcomes his friends Jimmy Pardo, Matt Belknap, and Pat Francis from the Never Not Funny podcast.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming babies, sticky seeds with 50 azepop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see, cause Doug loves movies! Hey everybody, my name is Doug and I love movies. This is Doug Loves Movies coming to you from... Not in front of the live audience but at the never not funny studios is that a safe thing to call it the never not funny studios i would in the valley of los angeles with the cast is that the right word the cast of never not funny host jimmy pardo is here hi doug hi jimmy sidekick pat francis hello doug well i think i think you just upgraded them Hi, Doug. Hi, Jimmy. Sidekick Pat Francis. Hello, Doug.

Wow, I think you just upgraded him. I think Pat Francis has got a promotion. What do you prefer normally? Minion? He's the third chair. Third chair. I like that. Because he's not on every episode. Oh, you're not on every episode.

You've done the show. What are you talking about? Well, I thought of late he was on every episode. I'm the rotating. You know what he is? He's the tourie. He's in the touring company. He's on every touring show. I'm the rotating. You know what he is? He's the tourie. He's in the touring company. He's on every touring show.

I'm like Richard Dawson. He's on every show. That's not right at all. And Matt Belknap. You're like Rosario Dawson. Hi. He totally is. I loved you in the Rent movie.

Yeah. How weird is it that the Rent movie had pretty much the entire original cast, and then they thought, but there's one chick. Let's get Rosaria Dawson instead of the lady that won the Tony Award. That lady, I believe if I'm not mistaken, was pregnant at the time they were shooting that film. Makes it even better.

So she passed. It's interesting to watch a pregnant crack addict. She passed. It sure ups the stakes dramatically. Yeah. I'm gonna go out tonight. Oh, really? You're eight months pregnant.

That's weird that you're singing about going out and dancing and getting some drugs. I forget, Jimmy, you are on record as saying you love and hate the show. But do you just hate hate the movie? When the movie started and the young man is riding his bicycle singing about rent, I blurted out laughter. And then at the end of it, I went, God, I love that but then but then when daniel goes really and i go no i hated it yeah then i went and bought the dvd i've got a lot i've my my relationship with rent is very strange it's documented that's how i feel about a lot of musicals honestly musical movies is like they're the ones that i like are really bad like g, Grease is empirically a bad movie, right?

I mean, it's horribly made. It's terrible. But something about it is not terrible. The music is, like, undeniable to me. I don't think I can agree with that. I think for 1978, or whenever they shot in 77, I think that was a well-made movie. I think other than having 30-year-olds play high school students,

that might be the only problem. When I was a kid, I thought that it was... I think other than having a 30-year-old play high school students, that might be the only problem. When I was a kid, I thought that it was... I just loved it, but also was terribly critical of it. I thought it was shoddy, even as a teenager. So you agree with Matt Belknap?

I thought there was a shoddiness to it, especially like the whole movie is fairly spectacular in its musical numbers, and then the big two numbers at the end they're running around on shitty carnival attractions that travel through town and that everybody's seen and jumped around on and it was like so other than uh living in john's leather pants there was nothing spectacular about the ending of the movie you know what but i guess i felt like uh i could relate to that because the carnival had come to my town so i felt like like, hey, this is what I'm going to be doing in high school.

You get out, you graduate, you go down to the carnival, you dance around, you have a hot dog. You jump in your pussy wagon. It's a real pussy wagon. And then your car flies away at the end. Right? That's what happened. We saw that car at the car museum on Sunday. Oh, my God.

Yeah, we went over to the Pettersson. The pussy wagon? That's right. No, Grease Lightning. No, grease lightning no grease lightning all right that's what they call it but it's not grease it's the one that flies away at the end and i don't think that's grease like no that's wrong it does say grease lightning on the side i like watching that movie on tv just because each cable channel chooses to do to do different things with pussy wagon and various elements that because it because that's the other thing that was weird about grease is it's pretty dirty yeah yeah like a lot of the lyrics and things they're saying are pretty filthy but he'll be getting lots of tit yeah but they're

but they're on tv it's like we'll be breaking out in zits oh really yeah i think that's pretty i still haven't identified matt belknap oh sure, sure you have. No, I haven't said his name. I thought you squeezed it in there. No, I didn't say it. Producer of Never Not Funny. Is that a fair title? I think it's fair to say he's the sidekick. Yeah, he's more of the sidekick.

He's the sidekick. And Pat Francis is, what do you call him, like free ride? Is he like that guy? Coat tails. Is he that guy in the band that dances and doesn't play an instrument? Yeah, he's the hype man. Yeah, he's the hype man. That's right.

Again, Pat is the, he's part of the touring company and they're not funny and that's good he's on uh on a regular basis he's our most uh requested guest and he's pat's your sidekick in a lot of other things so it's not it's right to say that pat is is your sidekick in not in this format it's not never not funny but no's ridiculous. I was in your wedding. Were you the sidekick in his wedding? I cut the... There should be a sidekick in the wedding.

No, you didn't. I didn't, no. I declare this bridge open. This episode, or ep, will plop on or around July 23rd, 2010, but we are banking it early. This is actually July 7th because when we normally tape on Tuesday nights,

I'm going to be on the Pot the Vote tour of California, reminding people to vote for Prop 19 and the legalization of marijuana on November 2nd. You're going to vote for that, right, Jimmy? On 11-2? Yeah. Yeah. Yes on 19 and 11-2. 11-2, never forget.

You know I don't forget dates. This is 7-7. Yeah. Yeah. Yes on 19 and 11-2. 11-2, never forget. You know I don't forget dates. This is 7-7. 10. Ah. So that said, even though this show is usually fairly topical, let's still talk about, have you guys been to the movies lately? Let's start with Jimmy. Have you seen anything?

I've seen two films in the last couple of weeks. And what were they? And your reactions? I saw a motion picture called Cyrus. Please. Did you see Cyrus? I did see Cyrus. I thought, you didn't see it.

I did not see it. Did you see Cyrus? I did not. Pat Francis did not see it, which is surprising because he's my sidekick. We always go to films together. I thought Cyrus, I thought the acting was terrific, Doug. Yeah. I just thought the story was just independent movie story that was just a slice of life.

But I thought it was a fine movie. I liked it. Yeah. I saw it at South by Southwest where I've already spoken about this on the podcast where everybody loves everything so much that I want to see it again with like just a normal crowd or just watching it at home, whatever. I'll Netflix it maybe because I just want to see it. You got caught up in the hype of South by. It was so much fun

watching it at South by Southwest. I saw Kick-Ass at South by Southwest and I thought that was going to be the biggest hit of all time and then it came out and nobody cared. That didn't do anything. It did really weirdly. Movies like Letters to Julia make more money. That was a good movie Kick- anything. It did really weirdly. Movies like Letters to Julia make more money. That was a good movie, Kick-Ass.

I liked it. It's really good. I love it. And so I want to see Cyrus again, just to make sure. It was a good film. I saw it in a full movie theater afternoon. I was surprised at how many people were in the theater. People seemed to enjoy it. Again, I thought all the acting was terrific.

Our friend Matt Walsh was great. You know, Catherine Keener did her thing. John C. Reilly was terrific. Jonah Hill doing a role opposite of what he usually does I thought was great. He still does that thing, though. I think Jonah Hill doesn't have a movie where he doesn't get in close and sort of whisper.

Yeah, you're right about that. He does that every time, but I buy it every time. I'm in every time. And Tomei was fine. Although I thought it was weird to cast her as that person going for the the oddball person you know almost like she did in the wrestler you know what i mean yeah and unless and she didn't have the nudity that i was enjoying so much in the last few films yeah you want to see a little bit of that yeah that devil oh before the devil knows you're dead yeah that's a great movie too very. She was very naked in that.

Yeah, extremely naked. Who's in that? Philip Seymour Hoffman. And Ethan Hawke? Is that who it is? Yeah. I like Ethan Hawke. I say that about Ethan Hawke all the time.

Ethan Hawke? Question mark? Was he there? Ethan Hawke was in Judgment, not Judgment Day, Training Day, right? Training Day. He got nominated for Best Supporting Actor for that. That's a terrific movie. I think he got in on the coattails of Denzel Washington's performance.

Denzel was fantastic. I think any young guy opposite him would have been fine, yeah. It would be hard to not act like, wow, you're crazy. You think Jason Biggs would have been good in that part? Yeah, Jason Biggs. Bigsy would have knocked it out of the park. No, Bigsy. Don't get me started about Big Z.

Big Z, I think, lost me a potential movie role one time. Wait, you think that's a true statement? I do. You think Jason Biggs has enough power that he cost you a movie role? No, he doesn't have enough power, obviously, because he was auditioning with me. Oh, I see.

You idiot. You think it cost you? You think it came down to between you and Jason Biggs? No, the two of us reading together killed me, I see. You idiot. You think it cost you? You think it came down to between you and Jason Figgs? No, the two of us reading together killed me. I see. Because it was for the movie Get Smart, the Steve Carell Get Smart. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I went in

two or three times by myself, and each time kept getting called back in, called back in. I'm like, oh, wow, I might actually get a part in this movie. And it was those two bumbling nerdy characters that ended up being played by the guy from heroes and the fat guy from the commercials with david spade nate nate torrence and what's the guy from heroes name the asian yeah um he's the japanese nobody knows right yeah i say oh ioki yeah yes i'm sorry that's pga golfer that's not it oh really it might also be i liked how you agreed with that though i feel like that is hideki matsui sean ono yes no sean

ono i'll think of it later it's it's apollo anton ono anyway that's who they went with okay but then they had this crazy casting session where they brought in 12 people and just kept bringing us into the room in different pairings. And not just dudes. Like Rachel Dratch was there. That girl that was also in Heroes and in Glee. Jame or something. And then they also had the Sklar brothers. Ethan Hawke?

No, Ethan Hawke. Ethan Hawke wasn't there. But it was still like the kind of – the fat guy from Broken Lizard, Heffernan or whatever his name is. And so it was all like – it was all people I recognized. And it was like very intimidating to be with all of them. And then when I – they paired me up with Jason Biggs and I went in with Jason Biggs and he didn't know any of his lines and would bring things

to a crashing halt they said they said know your lines so every time it was his turn to speak he didn't know

what to say and it was kind of one of those things where there's a rhythm between the two guys where you just go back and forth and you

you know kind of almost finish each other's sentences so I'm sure I wouldn't have gotten cast even if Jason Biggs wasn't horrible and didn't know his lines and didn't seem to care. But – They went younger. They went younger. They went early 20s with these characters.

Yeah, well, Biggsie was about that age. I mean he was in the wheelhouse. Biggs made it so you actually really did have to finish his sentence. Because he did not know what to say. Yeah, I just, you know, I guess it's not fair to blame him, but. No, I think it sounds pretty fair to me. Well, we know Biggs. Biggs is a good guy.

Yeah, he did. He's very friendly. He did the match game. He did one of our first match games. He was on board with it. He was a good guy. And then he was booked to do about another half a dozen. And he would cancel, let's call it six days out each it. He was a good guy and then he was booked to do about another half a dozen and he would cancel let's call it six days out each time.

That's a fair warning. Yeah, it's a fair warning, but maybe just say no. A weak window. You know, luckily he would always cancel right before we would put out the lineup. So alright, so we got Aukerman, me, Danielle, Doug, Paul F. Tompkins, and Jason Biggs.

Alright, go to press! Hang on! Jason Biggs. All right, go to press. Hang on. Jason Biggs is out. It was always right then. Yeah, and then you'd have to settle for like Jon Hamm or somebody awesome. Saw Hambone last night over at the UCB. Yeah, he came by just to watch you and Matt Patton. Let him down.

And a few other people. What do you mean? You didn't have a good set? I had an average set. Death Ray? I had an average set. You had a good set. Thank you.

You're very kind. Your expectations were high because you had done that Dave Holmes show that was like fireworks going off after every joke. Yeah, that's a good point. I don't know how to adjust from show to show. Between your TV appearance and then the Dave Holmes show, you were out of material. Maybe that's what happened. Kidding. You know what?

I love movies. Is there another one that you saw, Jimmy? I saw the Joan Rivers documentary. Oh, okay. What's it called? Piece of Work. Piece of Work. Oh, okay.

You didn't see it? No, I just keep calling it the Joan Rivers documentary also. I like to know the names of things. I think it's, I give it five out of five stars. It's an amazing piece of film. It's a wonderful piece of film. It's a wonderful piece of film. They're talking maybe Academy Award nomination. For what?

Movie? Documentary. Oh, yeah. I can see that. Yeah. But that's. Who's talking about that? That would be unusual.

Well, you know how it is. You read about it somewhere and you think people are talking about it. I love, by speaking of movies. One writer suggests it. I love that Entertainment Weekly spends their entire year talking about the Oscars. It's either post-Oscar wrap-up or early thoughts on Oscar. Oscar watch. It just happened.

They just gave them away. It is exciting to start thinking about what could be nominated from this year. There's not a lot this year. Cyrus. You think Cyrus' Academy possibly? You know what? I don't, but I think because of

the lack of other good movies. Well, it's early. The fall is when all the big Academy Oscar bait comes out. Name one movie you've seen this year that you think could win

Best Picture. You mean his Best Picture? Best Motion Picture. I don't think that's happened yet. I haven't seen Toy Story 3, but I imagine it would be a lock for a nomination From the way people are talking about it I think it was terrific

But that's the one I've seen You could get the up slot With the best animated category You kind of really have to be really great But now that they have 10 It's like spread the love a little So we could get in there, but we wouldn't win. Let's get back to five.

Can we agree with that? Yes. I'd love to get back to five, but I think the 10, I think since the ratings had a slight uptick, they think that made people tune in. Because Blindside wouldn't have been nominated, nor would have District 9. It gives people more things to root for when they do 10, but it also is ridiculous because it's stretching it to come up with 10. And Education was a nice movie, but Best Picture nominee? No, I do not think so. I don't think so.

Then you have five movies that obviously directed themselves because the directors don't get accolades for it. You still have five directors. Well, that's an ongoing argument people have is how can somebody be nominated somebody be nominated for best picture and the director's not nominated or vice versa and it's just like well sometimes i agree with that though sometimes i feel like prince of tides wow i think driving miss daisy might be the one of the only movies that won best picture and the director wasn't even nominated right and it's true because like let's face it is kind of the story and the acting it wasn't like a of the story and the acting. It wasn't like a direct. And the driving.

The driving was exceptional. I think the stunt coordinator should have been nominated, certainly. Yeah, he should have won something. Whoever the guy crouched in the backseat doing the actual job. Is that how they do it? They have a midget driving the car? It's on a truck. Oh, it's on the back of a car.

Oh, it's not a midget? It's not a midget in the backseat. It used to be. Why would you answer that? Why would you answer that like you were serious? Because I had the right, I had the answer. I was excited

that I'd know how that's done. But even, you know, now that you bring up movies like that, it's not actually fair because if a movie

has great performances, then the director deserves credit for, you know, directing them to great performances. Jessica Tandy and Morgan Freeman

wouldn't have any idea what to do with a great player. Left to their own devices, they're probably just going to make a softcore porn or something. You have to really get in there. That's what happened with Bonfire of the Vanities is Morgan Freeman came in and just called all the shots. That's why it's such a crappy movie. What about you, Pat Francis?

What have you seen lately? I've seen The Magnificent Seven and Gremlins. I'm kidding. Oh, you're kidding're kidding now is that your opinion of seven is that it's magnificent i actually saw the magnificent seven i do find that movie magnificent i've seen uh three movies recently i saw the uh joan rivers documentary i'm not sure what it's called um and i'm a piece of work and i saw i saw toy story 3 and then i saw a movie with michael douglas called solitary man which is really good jimmy are you gonna say it or shall i You're a piece of work. And I saw Toy Story 3, and then I saw a movie with Michael Douglas called Solitary Man, which is really good.

Jimmy, are you going to say it or shall I? You went with Michael Douglas? That's one of my favorite jokes. Well, that's one of those things where I think we both kind of started saying that. Like I went to see something with so-and-so, and recently somebody on Twitter said something to that effect, and someone wrote, that's Doug Benson's joke. And I wanted to write back to him and go, well, it's really Jimmy Pardo's Doug Benson joke.

I think we just both started saying it. My first one was Pretty in Pink. I saw Pretty in Pink with John Cryer. You were with John Cryer? He loved it. He loved it. Had the popcorn. But we all know if you're going to see a solitary man, you've got to go by yourself.

Right. Yeah. No, I won't. That's right. But I didn't talk to her. I try to act out the title of every movie I see. I went with Neil Sedaka.

I saw Rent on the first. I went with Neil Diamond. Neil Diamond. Well, Neil Sedaka did Solitaire. I was wrong. I like Rent on the first. Put some shit in my hair when I saw Grease.

You saw Payback on the 15th, didn't you? With Payback? Is that a Mel Gibson movie? Payday would be on the 15th didn't you uh payback is that a mel gibson movie payday would be on the 15th yeah i tried to make it work i tried to make it work do you think anybody would go see a movie called tax day that would be like the most depressing idea for a that that reminds me you guys were talking about the an education that i have that on netflix i have the disc in my house and it just sits there because it just sounds like the least,

like I know it's good. I know it's good, but the title. Have you seen it? No. It makes me think it's educational and I don't want to sit like, you know,

I just have to suck it up. The girl in it's crazy adorable. Yeah. And Alfred Molina is great. I love Alfred Molina all the time. All the time? Really? You like them even as Doc Ock?

I'm the opposite of him. I never like him. Doc Ock was the only good villain in the history of the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy. Wait a minute. Who was in the first one? That shithead Willem Dafoe. With the terrible green goblin costume.

He had that dumb mask on all the time. I like the first Spider-Man. I don't like when the villains, when they hire an awesome actor and then they put on a mask or worse, their CGI. Like the Sandman character that, what's his name, played in Part 3. Tommy Hayden.

Tommy Hayden. Yeah, that character never really gelled. And who was the other? And Topher Grace always turned into Black Spider-Man or whatever he was supposed to be. Venom. Well, they made the classic comic book movie mistake, sequel mistake of putting way

too many villains in there. I don't know why. Why did Iron Man 2 fall for that? Why were they like, yeah, let's have three or four villains running

around? Yeah, it's tedious. I don't know why they do that. Was Jesse Eisenberg in Solitary Man? Yes. Yeah, he's very good.

I like him too a lot. He's terrific. I like Solitary Man. You did? Okay, you did see it. Yeah. Yeah, I like him, too, a lot. He's terrific. I like Solitary Man. You did? Okay, you did see it. Yeah, yeah, I did. I liked it a lot. Yeah, so there's...

Sue Sarandon? There's early talk of Michael Douglas possibly getting an Oscar. Yeah, I don't think the movie would be nominated, but I think he would be good. He could possibly. He was doing what he does. No, he played in a slimy kind of guy. What do you think about this Wall Street, speaking of Torf and Grayson, Mike Douglas? Money Never Sleeps or something like that?

Yeah, Money Never Sleeps. That sounds like a joke. That sounds like the... Let's parody Wall Street movies. The Tracy Jordan movie. Sounds like the Wayans brothers were behind that. Well, that's what it reminds me of, is a terrible rap lyric.

It just sounds like something Nas would say. Why don't you just call it Gecko or something? Money takes a quick nap i mean it's gonna stink right when was the last time it's got the girl from an education in it oh you think you find her adorable and shia labouf who is also adorable who's just i hear charlie she makes a cameo can can anyone justify i like shia labouf but can anyone justify his position in hollywood right now as the guy that, the go-to guy for these humongous franchise things? Well, it's Hollywood and he's a Jew.

What the? What the? You get a lot of points. You know that people can hear you, right? He's French. He's French? He's French. LaBeouf.

He always does a solid job, I think. Really? For someone raised by hippies, definitely. Yeah. He bores me. He was good in Disturbia disturbia no he was boring in disturbia well boring hey he did what he could he was under house arrest how how shy if you're listening i like you and i would love i like him i just don't think he was the guy for say like

to be the next generation indiana i definitely don't think he's the guy for wall street wall street at all that doesn't or transformers like he't think he's the guy for Wall Street. Wall Street. At all. Or Transformers. Too soft. He's too soft. He skews too young. He should be in... He can play someone named Witwicky.

He can do that. John Krasinski should be in Wall Street 2. What? That's horrible casting. Over LeBeau? That's horrible. What about Topher Grace?

How about a woman instead? Why don't we really mix it up and have it be a woman? Women are a girl. Business, Pat. Topher Grace doesn't work. woman instead? Why don't we really mix it up and have it be a girl? Women are in business, Pat. Topher Grace doesn't work that way. It's not a fantasy movie. Yeah.

No, it doesn't. He was in that dumb Valentine's Day thing. He was going to be the next big thing after that movie with... Spider-Man? With Quaid. Was it Dennis Quaid that was in that movie? Yeah, yeah. And Scarlett Jo.

Scar Jo. Oh, not Company of Men, but In the Company? In Good Company. In Good Company? In Good Company. In Good Company? In Good Company, yeah. That's a good movie. Everyone was talking about him being nominated for an Oscar. I liked it.

Yeah, and then what happened to him? I don't know. I don't know what he's doing. Let's call him up. I want him to do more. I want him to do more. I like that guy. He was a very nice...

When I did that 70s show, he was the nicest of all the cast members. He beat out Wilder Valderrama. He beat out a bunch of douchebags in training That's right The two least likable people in the world He beat out the two that didn't say a word to me What about the girls then? She was very nice

Laura, what's her name? Prepon What happened to her? Prepontane Great Prepon Against all Pimmits That's the other one. What about the old guy?

How was the old guy? The adults were all very pleasant. That guy with the huge... Kurtwood Smith, is that his name? Yeah, that guy's great. The kids all... You know, Eliza Dushku was on there as well. And she and I were sitting with the guest cast.

And Wilmer actually goes, says to Eliza, she goes, he goes, what are you doing sitting down there with the adults and the guest cast, and Wilmer actually goes, says to Elijah, he goes, what are you doing sitting down there with the adults in the guest cast? Sit over here. And she was so fucking embarrassed. You don't say that in front of people. To her credit, she goes,

I'm good here. And she stayed. She was nice. It was unbelievable. You're that big of an asshole? Yeah. You say it in front of people? Wilmer.

And then, speaking of bad audition scenes, Wilmer was producing a show, and I went into audition, and I am not alone in saying this. He didn't make eye contact with one of the people that he was watching audition. He would just be there. Like, if you're reading, he was down on his phone looking down. Yeah, he came to see the Benson interruption at Largo last month, and after the show, I was like, oh, Wilmer Valderrama.

That's kind of cool. I'll get close enough to him that he can say good show or something. You know, because people usually do. Leonardo DiCaprio, Tobey Maguire, people like that have said good show to me. Why can't fucking Wilmer Valderrama say good show? He was on his phone. He said nothing. Standing around staring at his phone.

Where did DiCaprio see you? Yeah, that's a big one. At the improv. Is that right? Yeah, it was like the night after he was in some sort of bar scuffle where he got his ear cut. So I knew it was definitely him because he had a bandage on his ear. Or a really committed lookalike.

Yeah. Honey, give me the bandage! And I don't think he said anything to me now that you mention it. I think he just walked right by me. But Tobey Maguire was nice. Put one of those guys in Wall Street, too. Either one of them. Leo DiCaprio would have been dynamite.

Well, Leo DiCaprio, first of all, he doesn't do sequels, I don't think. Has he ever? Shutter Island 2? You ever seen the script for that? It looks terrific. What's still eating Gilbert Grave? I like that. Eventually everyone does a sequel, though.

I bet you Leonardo DiCaprio doesn't. Inception 2. I haven't seen one yet. That's the one. That's the movie this year, I think. You think that's it? Inception's the Inception? Everyone's already raving about it. Steve Agee's going to see it tonight, so I'm going to get the word right away. How's he seeing it tonight?

He's friends with Ellen Page. Oh, okay. raving about it. Steve Agee's going to see it tonight, so I'm going to get the word right away. How's he seeing it tonight? He's friends with Ellen Page. Oh, okay. He even got her to come on Doug Loves Movies a couple episodes back. Is she cute as a button? She is tinier than... When she and Steve Agee, I've seen them now in a couple different spots walking around together.

I think they're just pals, but when I see them walking around together, they look like characters out of a Dr. Seuss thing. Because he is so huge and she is so tiny. They must hire small actors in those Cisco commercials because she's not

insanely shorter than everyone else. Did you see Hard Candy? Yeah, I saw it the day she was on the podcast because I do my research. I watched all your movies today. Yeah, did you see Hard Candy? Yeah, I saw it the day she was on the podcast. I do my research. I watched all your movies today. Did you see Pat's performances? What did you watch? Groundhog Day? That was a Groundhog Day. Extra? You were an extra, right?

Police officer. Police officer 74? I'm right around the perimeter. Were you standing there not doing anything when he punched Ned Ryerson or whatever his name is? No, it's funny. I got to see that whole entire scene. I was there for like six funny. I got to see that whole entire scene. I was there for like six weeks.

I got to see that whole movie being made. It was great. Did that ruin that movie though? It did. That's too bad

because that's a great movie actually. I love it. It took a couple viewings until I was back on board but the extras were there all the time

because it takes place over and over and over so they needed the same people. Oh, wow. I never even noticed that. I will let you know this. There's the scene at the end

when he's playing the piano and everyone's dancing, and after he plays the piano, people are clapping. If you watch, you can see extras, and this isn't a video podcast, but they tell you not to really clap. Yeah.

You just do this. But there's people that are like this. Like missing by six inches. Yeah, missing by like six inches, and you can totally see it on film and it is ridiculous. I clap that way at like actual live events because I was an extra so many times where you stand around fake clapping.

If I ever see Wilmer Valderrama, that's how I will clap for him. Because that guy's a douche. You won't just not clap? He's unpleasant. Anytime characters are having a conversation in a scene at a nightclub where dancing is going on, those people are dancing to nothing yeah just dancing around and then the song gets put in later so it's which is impressive if you think about some dance scenes you've seen

i i it baffles me that like i always think about directing like you know it's like such a crazy job you have to do so many things but one of the things that you have to do that i don't understand how anyone does it well is like here's a hundred people and you have to get them to all do things like if it's if it's at all intricate it's like their background but they also need to be doing different things so they're not all like robots or something right you just throw a throw a handful of jolly ranchers at him every couple of minutes yeah extras love jolly ranchers i'm fascinated by sports movies. How do you direct Hoosiers where the ball has to be here, then it has to be there, then it has to be there.

The cameras have to line up. The players have to hit their mark. Yeah. That's a good point. Although it often stinks. I think that's probably why. It doesn't look like a real game. Not Hoosiers.

Okay. I'll give you Hoosiers. My dad never liked Hoosiers, and he's a big Midwest basketball sports fan. He never liked it? Oh, Gene Hackman's terrific. That's what I thought, but he was just like, ah, it's fake. It's phony. Kind of what Matt's saying.

I just think that some people are so close to things that when you see the movie version, you just don't. I think sports fans don't really like sports movies that much because it's never as exciting as when you have a vested interest in a real game. But that's what I love about sports movies is because you get to know the people in a way that you don't when you just flip on a game on TV. Like, you know, they do profiles sometimes or whatever. You watch Bad News Bears and Breaking Training. You don't get excited.

You don't get goosebumps. That one stinks. I hate sports, but I love sports movies. Yeah, I love sports movies, too. I hate sports, but I love sports movies. Yeah, I love sports movies, too. I wouldn't watch sports if you paid me. I'm starting to get into actual sports, too, a little bit more, though. Yeah, because I really enjoyed the World Cup.

Yeah, I'm wearing the hat with no logo on it. Well, that's because you're just now getting into it. You're not quite sure which logo. I'll pick a team eventually. He's on board with the umpire. I got to go to UFC fights in Vegas recently and it was so much fun. Is it brutal? It's so brutal. It's ridiculous how brutal it is.

I can't even imagine stepping in there a second. Just watching guys trying to just choke each other out. It's amazing. Who'd you go with? Sam Tripoli. Okay. Comedian. I was hoping you'd say Ellen Page and Steve Agee.

No, we got in because Joe Rogan got us in. Of course, because he's the commentator guy. And he's good at it. He's really good at it. And it's just because he's a fan and he just talks excitedly about what's happening and it works. He doesn't smoke weed before he commentates anymore, though, because he tried that a couple times. He said he just went off on tangents that nobody cared about. I think that's a good call.

Winter's Bone is supposed to be terrific. Have you seen it? I haven't seen that. When? Tomorrow. Great. Set it up. Did you see it? No. That's the one where every day I say, I'm going to go see that today, and the arc light keeps changing its movie times.

It'll be at 12 great okay 12 20 order that one then i go online to buy my ticket and uh it started at 10 15 and then 255 that day yeah they keep shuffling around yeah they're playing games with me it looks like it has a frozen river type vibe it does have that vibe to it which was great frozen river that was you know that was my favorite film of the last year that was fantastic was it two years ago two years it was two years ago what was my favorite film from last year. That was fantastic. Or was it two years ago? Two years ago. It was two years ago. What was my favorite film from last year? Any guesses? Any guesses?

Blindside? Any guesses? No. Avatar. Glorious Bastards? Hurt Locker? Oh, boy. Hurt Locker.

Might have been Hurt Locker, but then... Yeah, you loved that, but then as it kind of became more of a deal, it kind of lost its... It did. It lost a little bit of its luster. Yeah. I agree with that. Because I saw it after it was all hyped up. What the hell was it?

Lovely Bones? That's it. I saw Lovely Bones. It didn't work out so good. I saw it on a screen or at home, so I always have a different take. It's like they looked at the book and went, you know what? Rape is just... Let's take the rape out of it. Let's just make it murder.

Let's just go straight to murder, because that's what a lot of creeps do is they find little kids and just murder them. But make him as creepy. Don't do anything first. Make the character just as creepy as if he's a rapist. I love Stanley Tucci, but that was like a glasses and hair performance. Like, all he had to do was put that shit on and show up and he looked like a creep. Right. He didn't have to do anything.

That scene where he's rolling the safe. Like, okay, I get it. It's hard to move a safe. right you have to do anything that scene where he's rolling the safe like okay i get it it's hard to move a safe he was actually better he was actually better in the joy of child movie i think oh he was amazing yeah oh he was great in that but it's effortlessness that people don't appreciate yeah they don't as opposed to like i'm trying really i'm being strenuous and putting on an outfit so you gotta be an evil piece of shit or something spectacular to grab people. I read a quote from Michael Keaton.

He said when they were filming Batman, him and Jack Nicholson were in the makeup trailer together and Jack Nicholson would just say, piece of cake, just let the makeup do the work. Really, Jack? And then he went home. If I may, Pat. That may be the best Jack Nicholson impression

I've ever heard in my life. Spot on! I mean, if I may, sir. If I may. I didn't want to go to the front. Total nailage. You didn't even pull

your hair back. That's how confident you were. You did conversational Jack and not a lot of guys do that. Guys don't do it. Everybody goes the Shining Jack or Joker Jack.

That's right. That was, I like conversational Jack. What people don't realize is like away from the cameras, that's how he talks. He doesn't do it. Spot on!

He's doing his own Jack Nicholson when he's performing. Hey, go Lakers. Yeah, that's what he talks he doesn't do he doesn't do it he's doing his own jack nicholson when he's performing hey go lakers yeah that's what he sounds like courtside sound like owen wilson that's how he is if you knew jack the way i knew you don't know jack no i knew jack and you are no jack have you been to the cinema pat i am not pat what's your name yeah i just saw the Joan Rivers documentary. You all saw it. Did you all go together?

No. No. We usually do because I'm their sidekick. I see most of my movies with Graham Elwood when we're on the road together. That's good. We saw Night and Day, Opening Day. How was that? What's that like?

I'll tell you. No spoilers, please, but is it entertaining? Oh, boy. We saw it in, where were we? Like Lexington, Kentucky, I think. And guess how much it cost to get in to the matinee on the day it opened in Lexington, Kentucky. $5.50. I'm going to go $4.50 also.

$4. Wow. Whoa. Right? It's insane. I forget it every time. It's $15 to see a movie in Los Angeles now. Yeah.

Ask me how much the Joan River. Joan River is at $3.30. Yeah. It was like $14.50 or something. $13.50. Yeah. You know, much to put Joan River. Joan River is at $3.30. Yeah, it was like $14.50 or something. $13.50. You know, Woodland Hills AMC, the first showing is $6.

That's good. Woodland Hills AMC. But $4, that's really charming. You've got to love anything for $4. Oh, yeah, I was like, okay. I was a little reticent to see this movie,

but for $4, I'm excited. I also love Lexington, Kentucky. When you're on the road, it's not Los Angeles where there's a bunch of actors and entertainment people that have the afternoon off.

You go to Lexington, people are working. So when you walk up, first of all, you're waking up the guy behind the counter and then you're the only guy

sitting in there for four dollars. That's awesome. There's nothing better. He gives you a ticket then he runs there was a few people there that day but well it's opening day but there's no character in the movie called day pardon is there a night and day there's no character there's a character named

night was mikey day in the movie no he's not even in it no so there aren't even days in the movie it all takes place in the evening oh i was say, does it all take place in one day? Because that would have been clever. But why would there be a K at the beginning of night and day? Well, the night is the guy, but the day is the one day. Night. It's night in the day. Yeah.

How about Morris Day? I really can't figure it out. I really can't figure it out. Morris Day in the time. There should be a better title. You probably already have thought about it more than the people who chose that name. But not that that's a... I'm not trying to defend the idea of a title that's...

I hate those titles. I hated the title because I thought it was two names. And then now I hate it even more because it's not even one of the names isn't... So why does it have to be called that? Why can't it be called The Knight's Tale? It'd be like going to see Tango and Cash. There's no cash. Yeah.

Unless they were stealing money. Wait a minute. There you go. Tango and his cash. Or unless they were stealing money wait a minute there you go tango and his cash or unless they were dancing yeah they're dancing with a buddy named cash i always love that movie dollars where the it's just a dollar sign oh it's the title you know yeah it's called dollars you don't say you don't say dollars when you see a dollar sign what did you say like i bet a lot of people didn't know how to ask for a ticket like i'd like two tickets to

that was another great jack nicholson thank you do you see do you see uh you love movies i think you love movies i'm pretty sure you do i see less movies than you guys do really i think i have to catch up not me i see like three a year ridiculous i watch them on planes well you guys have seen joan rivers and this other thing. You gotta see. I mean, just as a comedian, you gotta see the Joan Rivers movies. I'm a little put off by having to look at her face. You get used to it.

You won't be. I can't know you. You will be for a while. But I think it'll be incredible because she really is, she does not get enough credit for not just what she's done for women in comedy. No, for comedy. But comedy but comedy. People don't talk enough about what an asshole Johnny Carson was to her.

That's in there. I'm sure it is. And you'll actually be put off by Melissa Rivers' face instead of Johnny. That's true. There's no reason for that to look so crazy and old and plastic. Or to even be around. Is she in it much?

Not that much. And she's fine in the movie. I don't like her. She's fine. She's not fine in the movie. Do you not like her because of The Apprentice? I don't like her. You never like her.

I don't like her because... Yeah, you have some weird anger towards her. Because she'll be on a show and she'll go, I'm a producer. I'm like, well, you have no... I look at you on IMDb, you don't have any producing credits. What are you talking about?

Yeah, there is... She only has a career because of her mom.'s what i hate she has children right she has one child yeah she produced he was a cute kid i mean that's true yeah that production is coming along nicely i do not like until he gets some work done i love your hands that was a weird moment in that movie jones i love your hands oh yeah yeah spoiler Who does she say that to? To her grandson. But it's actually very sweet. It's very sweet. That moment is very sweet.

And he said, I loved your old face when you used to be my grandmother. He never saw it. Yeah, he has no memory of that. All right, then. Okay, so I'm going to see that. I'm going to encourage all the listeners to see it. Everybody who cares about comedy. Who saw Grown Ups?

You see Grown Ups? No, no. I talked about it with Chip Pope on two episodes ago, and he said it was like watching people on their vacation. Really? I love that. They made a movie out of their vacation. Brody Stevens joke about that.

Is that a movie about water slides? I would see a movie about water slides. Yeah, Grown Upsups to me it's about peeing and how did you go see grown-ups i did not see grown-ups because it seems like something you'd go see though no i like adam sandler but i don't like adam sandler movies and i like i agree with that i don't always like will ferrell movies either every time i see the preview i kill oh my god that looks so hysterical and then i never go see it and then i see a review i just i just go to the the mckay ones i feel like that's the safe way to do it.

Yeah, yeah. Just go see Land of the Lost. Okay. I mean the McKay directed ones. Who's directing the other guys? McKay. Oh, see, I want to go see that one. Somebody just saw it.

And? What was his? Better than Step Brothers, not as good as Anchorman was his review. All right. I really like Step Brothers. I love ranking reviews. I was going to say, that's a review. I Anchorman, was his review. I really like Step Brothers. I love ranking reviews. I was going to say, that's a review. I don't even understand that review. Yeah, because everybody has a different opinion

on which ones are good. To me, the Will Ferrell one, aside from the clear bombs like Bewitched, the least favorite but still a funny movie, Will Ferrell movie for me, is Talladega Nights. And that's just because to me, racing isn't interesting. It was the least funny? Is that what that what you said the least funny but still has funny parts right you

know it's got stuff in it i like that's the kind of will farrow movie i like because it is one he collaborated with adam mckay but it is not a good movie yeah and most people wouldn't agree with me that i i can watch it beginning to end as many times as possible blades of glory i agree with that i love that movie i know you hate it so we argued about that because because i i saw it and i was like it's really funny and then you went with danielle and you got mad at me for recommending it literally you were i was i think it's i mean i think guys ice skating is funny right off the bat the premise is great because it's hilarious to see two dudes figure skating and everybody everybody in that cast is funny and and and yeah i think amy poehler is great uh that's great that scene where will arnett and and uh will ferrell are running after each other in skates on on regular ground and and the way they're flailing around it's so funny to

me it's just you gotta like maybe this is not your cup of tea i'll grant you that but i feel like you kind of have to have like it's it's not good per se it's a it's a very generic sports comedy but within that uh very limited sort of uh structure it's funny the commentator the way they did every time the commentators were talking and the packages showing what the... It just was a really spot-on parody of that world. What's the guy's name? Not Brian Boitano, but the other...

Mark Hamill? No, that's the guy from Star Wars. Who's the guy? Scott Hamilton? Scott Hamilton. Scott Hamilton. Yeah, him and the other guy do a good job in that. You admitted that they made you laugh.

I did? Yes, you did. What about dodgeball? Where do you stand on dodgeball? Eh. No one does? I enjoy dodgeball, too. Eh.

I kind of feel like that's their system. Not as much as Blades of Glory, but I like that. Will Ferrell's not in dodgeball. It's no Blades of Glory. No, now I'm just talking sports comedies. Okay. Because there's something about a team coming back from behind, even if it's a dumb movie. Yeah.

It adds an extra level of excitement to me, rooting for them to win that's how i feel about rodney dangerfield's ladybugs that to me is uh one of the best i don't know if anyone's ever called it that with the like it's his movie like he's an auteur well yeah a lot of people don't know that that was his project that's probably the worst will will ferrell sports movie is kicking and screaming yeah it's probably i didn't see it, but I agree with you. And that one bothered me because I don't think a movie should be allowed to have a title of a previous movie. Especially one that's good and underappreciated. So it's like maybe every once in a while somebody will accidentally rent it.

They think they're getting the soccer movie. But how mad would you be if you thought you were going to see a Will Ferrell soccer movie? I was mad. I knew I was seeing a Will Ferrell skating movie. I just mean anyone who's going to go out of their way to rent the kicking and screaming with Will Ferrell probably won't like the other kicking and screaming. Because it's like an indie college set comedy. It's not. Yeah, but it's good.

And what's her name from Entourage? Jeremy Piven's wife on entourage uh there's she has one quick scene where she's topless and it's okay very very impressive all right mr skin yeah did he tell you about it happens at one hour and two minutes i probably brought it up to mr skin when he was a guest yeah on the show that's one of those movies from the era when eric stoltz was literally in every independent film. And he's in that. And it's just crazy to see how omnipresent he was in 95.

And I have never had a problem with Eric Stoltz. Yeah, me neither. I always think that guy does a solid job. The young man from Mask? Mm-hmm. And Some Kind of Wonderful? Yeah. Who's mad at Eric Stoltz?

I like both of those movies. Well, I'll tell you who's mad at him. You know he was fired from Back to the Future. Right. And he seems like he would have been perfect for that. Did that footage leak out at some point? But Michael J. Fox was super perfect for it. Right.

Like, if you're going to fire someone and replace them, that was it. Right. You can't fire him and replace him with someone lesser. That was a good way to go. I wonder what... I mean, because it's such a good movie i don't think like even you know another person playing that character it still would have been probably a hit movie because it's just a great premise but yeah it was such a michael j fox was so on fire yeah exactly that was his time you know when he started making he kept trying

to make dramatic movies and he's just like what, what are you doing? Have we learned nothing from Vince Vaughn in the future? You think he would have known because he went back. Because that's a guy, Vince Vaughn. I'd see anything with Vince Vaughn in it except for most of his movies. To me, he is so funny, but I couldn't see that one because I heard such bad things about him. I love him and Jason Bateman. Everything about that movie was like, I can't wait to see it.

Oh my God. It should have been. And I have no interest in seeing it. Did you see Get Him to the Greek? Yeah. I liked that. I liked it too. You saw it too, right?

Yeah. I was going to give it a shot. Is he in that? Is Vince Vaughn in that? No, no, no. But I was just thinking of another comedy that was out. Yeah, I know. I should see that.

But it feels, for someone like me who has a young child and I don't get to go to movies much, it seems like a rental kind of. Like it doesn't seem theater worthy. I have to make those judgment calls sometimes. Yeah. I mean, I don't. I go to the movies much. It seems like a rental, kind of. Like, it doesn't seem theater-worthy. I have to make those judgment calls sometimes. Yeah, I mean, I don't... I wish it was sexier. I wish there was more... Like, they keep acting like they're going to make a, you know,

kind of a dirty, sexy... And instead, it's just sort of dirty in weird ways. Like, you know... Kind of juvenile dirty. Like, yeah, like two dudes alone in a room dirty. Right. Where it's like, well, hey, let's get some... And Rose Byrne was so hot and sexy in that.

Oh, man. They could have done something with her. She really impressed me in that. Keep me out a little bit. What? We're both doing it. What do you mean? Because I thought she was good on Damages.

I like her on that show. I like her on Damages, too. I like her on that show, but you wouldn't imagine she could play a funny character. No. Who was she in this? Singing about her ass. She was the sexy girlfriend character or whatever. When she said, my Rosebud is my ass. Something like that. That's how one of the songs ends. Yeah. Loved it. Sexy girlfriend character or whatever. What'd she say? My rosebud is my ass.

Something like that. That's how one of the songs ends. Yeah. Loved it. I know. It's funny. Perfect way to end a song. Yep.

All songs should end that way. Hey, everybody. This is normally the part of the show where I play games with the guests, but we're having so much fun, and this show's going to go so long, and I don't have a new episode ready to go next week, so let's make this a two-parter. Join us next week when Pat Francis, Jimmy Pardo, and Matt Belknap

will be playing Build a Title and the Leonard Maltin game. And I can tell you right now, it's a real barn burner. Whatever that means. Hey, one more thing. If you're in Los Angeles and you want to see Doug introduce the documentary

Winnebago Man, go to the Sunset Five Theater on Wednesday, July 28th at 7.40 p.m. It's going to be a good time. This is one of Doug's favorite documentaries, and I'm sure he'd love

to see you there. Enjoy. Now it's time for Doug to watch another talkie. Eyes of gold, his viewing prowess makes him cocky. There's no room in his heart for you,

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