Doug Loves Movies - John Erler, Raanan Hershberg and Samm Levine guest

Episode Date: April 18, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming, maybe sticky seeds with 50 acid pop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see, cause Doug loves movies! Hey, hey, hey everybody! My name is Doug and I love movies. This is Doug Loves Movies coming to you on April 17th, 2022, Easter Sunday. My guests have all curtailed their egg hunting activities to be on the show with us now today. Welcome John Erler, Renan Hirschberg, and Sam the Ma'am Levine. Hey, Doug. Hi, fellas.
Starting point is 00:00:50 Thanks for holding your laughter until the end of that. A lot of solid jokes in there. Let's meet everybody individually and alphabetically starting with John the Con Erler. You're on fire this afternoon, Doug.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Thank you for having me. I was lighting something on fire a few minutes ago, but hopefully I'm not physically on fire. How many days have you taken this thing down, you slithery snake? How many weeks have you been the ongoing champion? Can you hear me still? Yes. Okay, because my mic light went out.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I haven't been keeping track. I'm just here enjoying the ride. Just, you know, life's a game. And, you know, I love being on the show. It's been three times, I believe. I know it's been an unprecedented run in these times. There was a five show run by somebody, I think last
Starting point is 00:02:03 year, maybe. L But lately the turnover is almost instantaneous from episode to episode. So congratulations. Thank you. I feel honored. I brought in some big guns today because as much as I love you, I've got to put an end to this. Look, I don't blame you. I wouldn't want me hanging around this show for longer than this. I'm kidding. I'm kidding, of course, because nothing would make me happier
Starting point is 00:02:32 than to have a permanent guest, someone who just never loses. Oh, let me be your Ken Jennings. This show would be so great with a Ken Jennings. Because then it's like whenever two new people come in, it's like, okay, lambs to the slaughter. Let's see what's going to happen here. You know, my friend, John Smith, who loves your... Okay. First of all, let's have his real name. He's going to be so upset.
Starting point is 00:03:01 His real name is John Smith, but sometimes he spices it up by putting his middle initial in and so sometimes he's john w smith just to give him a little pizzazz he listens religiously to your show i listen you know secularly he listens religiously and he said john if you keep this up they might have to bring out a big gun like Sam Levine. And yes, he said, here we are. That's what happens. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Was Jeff Tate not available? I put the I put the Sam signal into the sky and he calls. He races to the phone and also joining us today, but also I think, you know, a strong contender for the win. It's Renan, the Colin Hirshberg. I'm also out of nicknames. Good. I'm so hurt by John Smith's comment. Not thinking about me. You didn't let me finish. He said, Sam Levine and Renan. It was a real, you know, Dorothy going,
Starting point is 00:04:09 I'll miss you most of all moment. I'm so sorry. You're going to take it all tonight because of that. I know, like, that was my downfall. It was a fire in my belly or whatever. I don't know what the phrase is. But, yeah, it's good to be here thanks for having me
Starting point is 00:04:28 I don't think we're breaking the record for most time zones at once on this show we've probably done one with four but right now we are currently in three time zones because Sam and Renan are on the west coast and John is in central time and I'm and I'm on Eastern Time on Easter.
Starting point is 00:04:49 That's my thing I do every year. I'm like, it's got to be Eastern Time all day long during Easter. Otherwise, I'm too confused. Also joining us, I almost forgot to introduce you because there's always been so much hype talk. The soon-to-be mrs sam levine is lil wolverine what's up sam how's it going oh things are wonderful doug thank you uh yes i'm very soon to be mrs sam levine i'm very excited yeah and uh currently the star of minx on hbo minx i will debate your use of star but but uh yes i'm very very pleased uh that i've i was got to be on two very fun
Starting point is 00:05:36 episodes of a very cool very funny uh show called minx on hbo max all episodes streaming now, check it out. Uh, so much dong. There's so much dong. It really is like amazing how much, how little ding there is and then how much dong, like I've never seen. It's just uneven. Yes. Well, they're trying to even out the score from the last, I don't know, 40, 50 years. And I'm, I'm here for it. Yeah. I mean, it's a, it's a fun show. I, you know, if I didn't like the show, I'd probably be like too much dong. I like it. I'm like, okay, bring it on. Bring on the dong. Yeah. But I don't, you know, it's never really that sexual. It's always just dudes standing there, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:21 because they're posing for a magazine pictures and they're also not they're like firemen and stuff they don't know what to do yeah they don't know what to do with that hose uh but you're on with our buddy uh eric edelstein oh yeah two of you play uh just your your typical old school shock jock morning radio creeps yep that is exactly correct we played i haven't seen this episode it was a guess oh yes no you're absolutely correct eric and i play absolute douchebag uh radio drive time djs uh and uh it was so much fun fun getting to wear those outfits and, you know, be on that super fun retro set. And, yeah, no, the cast on that show is unbelievably talented. So that they allowed me to come along and play with them was a real treat.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And it's sincerely a really well-written, well-produced, creative show. a really well-written well-produced creative show so uh i hope you can get past the too many dongs if that's something that's that's holding you back and check out at least the first few episodes of minx yeah and i guess you could like you know fast forward through it or something yeah skip through the dongs if it bothers you but uh uh i think it's you know it's about time it's it feels like uh that they're a little i don't know i i don't know about the timeline of it but like uh you know it's fun to imagine that there's a feminist magazine with dudes with their dongs out that uh you know actually existed and was popular well i believe this is a fictionalization of Playgirl. Yeah, but Playgirl was like, you know, it was never, it's, you know, it never had its own, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:08:11 It was always from the guy who thought of Playboy. In the TV show, this lady comes out of nowhere, finds the right magazine guy, played excellently by Jake Johnson. And anyway, it is a really good show so i'm looking forward to haven't seen your episodes yet but i'm looking forward to it that's quite all right before we get to the games today each of you has a heavy responsibility oh boy yeah i need each one of you to give a hearty not half half fast, not it's the last thing I thought of before I came on the show. A real genuine recommendation of just one film.
Starting point is 00:08:55 John Erler treated us to something called Daredevil recently, which I actually then proceeded to watch by accident because it was on a hotel TV that only had one HBO channel. So I watched it. I'm not going to lie to you. There was a nap at one point. I saw a lot of it. Did you make it to the part where Evanescence shines? Yeah, they sure do. You're right about that. That really made that song happen. And guess what? Every time there's a song
Starting point is 00:09:36 in Daredevil, it's that jarring and annoying that they have such hugely popular songs that barely have anything to do with what's happening in the movie yeah it's a real uh they had a it's it's a very interesting movie you know it's it was uh marvel at a time when they were they were kind of lost and then making movies that were uh too comic booky. Like we're not, the movie itself doesn't seem to be taking comic books seriously. Yeah, I think that's exactly right.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Is that fair to say? Or it's trying to be a certain kind of comic book that later on they abandoned. Like it's, it feels like The Crow or like Sin City or really, very literally comic book movies. It looks like a comic book. Yeah, but those other movies you mentioned had a cooler design to them. I mean, Daredevil definitely has some cool stuff, but it also just feels like they're guessing at what a comic book movie should be. Yeah, I think that's right but i kind of dug it because it's just like
Starting point is 00:10:48 yeah it was marvel but they hadn't figured out what marvel was at that point um it was like i just rarely see movies people recommend especially when it's one that i'm like kind of skeptical on like i thought a long time. It seemed like I remember it being quite silly. And it's fun to watch because of how silly a lot of it is. It takes those kids in the playground forever to notice that a blind man and a woman are having very acrobatic
Starting point is 00:11:15 fighting with each other. But once they notice, they get really into it. They're so excited. That same motif happens in Catwoman which was made around the same time that was a thing in superhero movies like the two romantic leads the superhero and their romantic interest like in Catwoman
Starting point is 00:11:39 it was a basketball match like she and Benjamin Bratt that seems really crazy yeah she was doing all kinds of basketball with benjamin brad as cats do as you know once she got her cat powers she became great at basketball uh and all the kids on the playground were just going nuts watching the two of them do this one-on-one like what was happening in 2003 that this was an important scene to have in a movie well that all that being said what have you got for us this week i i i can't believe you actually watched daredevil i felt i i feel like i failed the question like like daredevil was the wrong answer to whatever the question was just a coincidence that i saw okay i feel better um i'm gonna say i don't know
Starting point is 00:12:27 i like i re-watched uh flash gordon recently and so that's not like a new movie but i do love the 1980 flash gordon um with sam jones who also i guess was in playgirl back in the day. Yeah, that checks out. This all ties together nicely. Yeah, I take my role research very seriously. That checks out. Excellent. Okay, good. But I've seen that so many times. I'm going to say a movie I hadn't watched. Oh, you're changing it already?
Starting point is 00:13:00 You already gave up on it. You didn't even dive deep into the amazing queen music that's in it and the um uh the fact that timothy dalton is like the first time you see that he can be a a fun actor because up to that point he just seemed like he was most boring james bond yeah or well that same time i believe anyway no he. He still wasn't James Bond yet, right? Right, he was not Bond yet, but soon. Very soon. Yeah, but you know what I mean? He played a fun character and then his Bond wasn't that much fun.
Starting point is 00:13:33 And he's since played fun characters like in Hot Fuzz. Okay, so what are you changing it to, John? I'm not changing it now. I'm going to stick with it. Oh, okay. Now I've crossed it out. Now I've got to write it down. You forgot to mention Brian Blessed, who also steals
Starting point is 00:13:48 the movie as the Hawkman. Didn't he just die? Oh, did he? Take it back. He's alive. Don't worry about it. I'm thinking of somebody else. I'm thinking of Jack Blessing. Anyway. Renan, what do you got for us? Your time's up, John.
Starting point is 00:14:08 I always mess up that question. You're already in the hole. You got negative one point. God, I'd never do well. I, uh, I saw X and I really loved it. Okay. That's come up a couple times now There's a lot of people that are into that movie Speaking of that kind of 70s vibe we were talking about with Minx Is certainly true with X
Starting point is 00:14:38 Yeah, it has everything It's like really funny It's like really suspenseful Even mixture of ding and dong so you know fair across the boards for everyone and uh yeah it's just great and also like a lot of good a lot of good stuff about getting older and stuff and in its own goofy way it kind of deals with mortality in a effective way kind of the. A gentleman that was on the show a few weeks ago,
Starting point is 00:15:08 Solomon Giorgio, if I'm naming names, raved about it, but then went on to say part of what he liked about it was that even though it's a horror movie, it didn't have, like, gratuitous violence. And so I went into it with that attitude.
Starting point is 00:15:30 And I was pretty surprised by how gratuitous some of the violence was. I guess if you're not, I guess if you, if you've been under hyped on the violence, I mean, it's not like hostile or anything or like, you know, there's no torture per se, but it's never that gross, but yeah, it's definitely not, not violent. It's pretty gnarly. Yeah. I mean, if we were talking, you know, in a room where we could spoil it, I'll tell you exactly what I'm referring to, but I don't want to ruin anything, especially like that. I don't think people should know anything about it going in.
Starting point is 00:16:00 There's definitely some murder moments where it's weird for someone to be like, that wasn't gratuitous. That was completely. Yeah. I was just surprised by him going out of his way to say that it's not gratuitous when I was watching a couple of the scenes, but I, I agree with him there. There is, you know, there's some filmmakers that know how to like pour it on hard in some scenes and then other scenes are not gratuitous at all. Like they don't feel like you have to see it every
Starting point is 00:16:26 single time. Yeah. And I just had a lot of fun watching it. Like a lot of movies now, especially movies that get reviewed, a lot of them are so dour sometimes and it was just like nice to, especially these days,
Starting point is 00:16:42 I feel like people think if they make something really dour, people think it's ultimately really good. Not to say movies, but I have a couple in mind. But this was just fun. It's nice to just watch. I mean, I don't only love fun movies, but it's nice to just watch something really fun and entertaining
Starting point is 00:16:59 that also does have some depth. It's hard to keep the energy up in some of these things where it's just a few actors go off to a house or a rental or whatever and then bad things happen you know like it's you need more more bodies for a bigger body count and more things to happen the whole way because it's also good characters which i think is like crucial for like a horror movie so it's it's like mid-Somar or Get Out where the characters themselves are engaging to watch, whether it's a horror moment or not.
Starting point is 00:17:32 I think you're probably beating John at this point. It's too early to tell. Oh, Lord. Have you seen X, John? I have not, but I've been on both the podcasts where people have talked about x so i've got to see it now now you're getting fired up for it i am all right let's let's see what sam's got what do you have for us sam uh i too have uh a controversial film uh older from 1988 i believe um and it's a very divis movie. People either love this movie or they hate this movie.
Starting point is 00:18:07 People, I walked out of the theater. They were so upset. And it stars Tom Hanks and is called Big. OK, so that was really fun what you did there. Wasn't it fun? No, here's the here's the real truth. So I recently watched rewatch for the 100th time big with my soon-to-be wife, and neither of us had actually sat and watched it from start to finish in well over 10 years. And it is such an amazing movie. Not that we all didn't know that, but if it's been more than 10 years since you've actually sat and watched it start to finish, I highly encourage you to do so. It is such a sweet, feel-good movie, especially the very famous scene where Tom Hanks and Robert
Starting point is 00:18:52 Loja dance on the big piano at FAO Schwartz. I can't remember the last movie I saw that had such a simple, fun, pure, joyous scene like that in a in a, you know, a PG-13 movie. And with a thug like Robert Loggia involved, a typical criminal actor, Robert Loggia, who right before that was an armed and dangerous. that was an armed and dangerous uh but uh yeah no it's it really it it lifted my spirits in the most delightful way that i was not expecting when the movie just started playing and by the end of it i was i was in such a better mood so check out big and marvel at the people behind it was co-written by gary ross man, man. Let me just play Devil's Advocate for a second. And say Devil's Advocate
Starting point is 00:19:49 is better. Just kidding. Unrelated. No. Here's the thing about Big. I did see it again recently and I echo your sentiment that it is very well done, very entertaining movie.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And even kind of keeps the notion that this child could figure out how to work in an office and succeed and everything it all really plays you know pretty real but the one thing they touch on but that now just sits with me is now it's a movie about a boy who disappears and his mother has no idea where he is what's happened to him if he's dead or alive or if he's being tortured or trafficked or god knows what and her situation is like that through much of the film and so once that watching it now seeing that aspect of it going oh yeah that's right she really gets put through the ringer on this because then he also shows up and as an adult and it's like going i'm your son and she's like what the fuck are you talking about right no the great mercedes rule for sure but i i feel like you are possibly forgetting there are a few several scenes where he calls home.
Starting point is 00:21:06 He does. And then he writes and he sends. He's like, I'm OK. Like, right. They'd have you say if you're at gunpoint, you're being held. Right. And then he sends. But he sends letters.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Remember, he writes a whole bunch of letters. And then, you know, they try to cover that with that shit. But I think your typical mom, yeah would be like holy crap what a thing to have to go through my my issue if we're gonna go to that is where's the dad in all of this we only see the dad at the carnival in the opening of the movie and then the entire rest of the movie josh's home life is only his poor mother who thinks her son has been kidnapped i swear i just saw it a month or two ago and i would have if asked i would have said it's about a single mom i don't even remember a dad ever being present yeah he's got a dad and a younger baby sister i guess because
Starting point is 00:21:57 he like comes to visit her that one time when she's just home during the day and the dad's at work, I guess. Yeah. But anyway, an excellent choice, though. We've got Big and X and Flesh Gordon. And be sure to check them all out if you haven't. And then don't be across with me if you don't. I mean, three pretty fairly wildly different uh films we have to choose from here so it's a excellent selection you know what i want to apologize i said that uh my movie big was controversial and divisive and i did i didn't mean that i want to be clear about that yeah we argued about a little bit though i know all right we have to go to a break and then we're gonna we're gonna play some games so we'll be right back we're back our first game today is something that i call abcds no
Starting point is 00:22:53 yeah it's a fun game it's a random game and uh i think the three of you will be great at it i will give you one letter at a time. And then whoever's turn it is has to name a movie that begins with that letter. You match me, you win. And we're going to spell something out. So you also know you should know. Sometimes people get confused, as do I. But you should know what letter is going to be yours because we you know go in order and we spell something and since it's easter and people will still be excited about it
Starting point is 00:23:31 uh for a week or so when they're listening to this podcast i can't wait to hear more about easter um you know coming down from that high of the easter egg hunt takes days. Peeps and Cadbury eggs are like 50-80% off starting tomorrow. Right? Or starting now is the thing when the podcast is out because we come out the next day. We're going to spell rabbit hole in honor of Easter. Some people might have thought I'd go the Jesus direction, but no. We're going to spell rabbit hole, and we'll go with the three gentlemen in alphabetical
Starting point is 00:24:12 order as introduced earlier in the show, so we'll start with John Erler. Name any movie that begins with R. Hmm. Ooh. R. Hmm. Hmm. Um, Ooh. Hmm. This is a good one.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Okay. Uh, cause I enjoy this movie. Uh, Royal 10 and bounce. Okay. Uh, I'll give you a pass on that one,
Starting point is 00:24:41 but the film was called the Royal 10 and bounce. We're really strict on the T, the word starts with the letter T, so that makes it a little harder that you can't use those words. But like I said, I let it go because great movie and great answer. Wreck-It Ralph. I change it. Wreck it Ralph.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Okay. Now that starts with the R sound. You're getting more wrong. It has to be the letter R. And so that's why I wrote down a motion picture called rabbit test. Oh yeah. Yeah. Uh,
Starting point is 00:25:24 stars Billy Crystal is the first pregnant man. Mm-hmm. Written and directed by Joan Rivers, the only movie she ever directed. Okay. I could say a lot about each of these titles, but we don't have that kind of time. Renan, the next letter is A. The first title is Rabbit Test. There is a theme to these answers.
Starting point is 00:25:44 What's your A movie alice in wonderland we already have a winner that is the correct answer whoa this is a super fun game hang on everybody, my goodness. I had to go get that sound effect. This, you know, happens pretty rarely, but Renan just killed it with the correct answer. The second one is Alice in Wonderland, followed by Bambi, Bunny Lake is missing. A movie starring Matthew Modine from 1999 called If...Dog...Rabbit.
Starting point is 00:26:32 Never heard of that. T was the House Bunny. W was Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I know there's no W in rabbit hole, but I thought that was funny. H is a motion picture called, say it with me, guys. Harvey. Harvey. Oh, yes. And then L is something called, oh, O is over the moon.
Starting point is 00:26:59 L is legend of Kung Fu Rabbit. And E is Easter Bunny Kill Kill. You could also have done Watership Downs for us. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's rife with W's, but of course, rabbit hole doesn't have a W in it. At least not the traditional
Starting point is 00:27:17 hole. So the theme was Easter movies? Rabbits. No, I know. Oh, know oh yeah but yeah most of them are easter movies but they're all rabbit i thought you might have snuck a ten commandments movie in there just for one of the teeth i could have you know i always get dangerously close because also like i was really struggling with the letter o and then i realized there's a bunch of you know there's rabbit in um in that animated netflix thing called over the moon um that was really that that was fantastic because it gets us you know gives us plenty of time for our next movie
Starting point is 00:27:56 because renan took that one down so quickly yeah and plus also a lot of people are probably sitting listening to this going i wish the next commercial break would come quicker. And now it will because that game ended so quickly. I feel like I lucked out though. That's to everybody involved. I feel like I lucked out because I'd never heard of any of those other movies. You've never, you've heard of Bambi. You said, Oh, I heard of Bambi. What about the house bunny? Surely you know about the house bunny to the house bunny or easter porn or whatever the
Starting point is 00:28:30 other one yeah there's some terrible uh horror movies also oh another h would have been hot um but and then there's a bunch of peter rabbit movies but there's no p there's no peeing Peter Rabbit movies but there's no P there's no P in rabbit hole and there's no crying in baseball did you see Tom Hanks throw out that first pitch? Sure did it was not a great throw but you know what are you going to do? It was a volleyball
Starting point is 00:28:57 it's tough to throw a volleyball was it better or worse? He threw a whole volleyball? Yeah he threw Wilson. I thought he just brought a volleyball as a joke didn't he actually have to throw a baseball don't they really want a first pitch?? Yeah, he threw Wilson. He just brought a volleyball as a joke. Didn't he actually have to throw a baseball? Don't they really want a first pitch? Oh, I thought he threw Wilson. I was drunk when I watched that clip. I think he brought Wilson, but will he really just throw Wilson over the first plate
Starting point is 00:29:15 and then they start the game? Now I don't know anymore. Now I feel like I'm being gaslit. I thought I saw him. It feels like bad luck to throw a bloody volleyball over. But I think the catcher caught it in his glove. You couldn't catch a, you couldn't catch Wilson in your glove. Could you? No, I maybe you, maybe he did throw a real baseball.
Starting point is 00:29:38 All I remember seeing the image of him, what it looked like it was him throwing Wilson, but I guess maybe he just held it up. It's funny that they got us to pay attention to sports at all like it was him throwing Wilson, but I guess maybe he just held it up. It's funny that they got us to pay attention to sports at all because it was Tom Hanks, but we still don't know what happened. I just know that I was just sitting there trying to think of there's no peeing.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I mean, no crying. He pees in every movie. John Erler helped me realize that because he's in like four or five different movies urinating. Green Mile, Castaway. Those are all major P's.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Yeah, but those are things you could call a P. A league of their own. Tom Hanks, famous for urinating scenes. Yeah. Yeah. A league of their own. They call it a league of their own. In Money Pit, does he pee or does the little statue pee? The statue pees on him.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Yeah. But we put it in the montage. He has to pee in the Apollo movies, right? Exactly. Oh, yes, yes. The Constellation Urine, as Bill Paxton says. Yeah. He's so wholesome, but it's weird that in his rider, he's like, I have to pee.
Starting point is 00:30:44 Yeah. In the movie. His biography is going to be called Hanks for all the piss. All right. We got to go to another break. We're going to come back and play our final game of the day. Renan gets to go first in the next game. Is that an advantage? We'll find out after this
Starting point is 00:31:06 we are back everyone is on tenterhooks whatever that means sounds painful sometimes it sounds like they're saying tinterhooks but i believe tenterhooks is the correct it It's Tinder like the app, Tinder. Yeah, there you go. So Renan gets to go first in a game that I decided to resurrect because Amy Miller requested it, but I didn't want to do it on the episode she was on because it would be unfair to play a game that a guest suggested.
Starting point is 00:31:48 It's called Paxton Pullman. Oh. Yes. People often mistake Bill Paxton and Bill Pullman. One is past, the other is still with us, but they still probably to this day get mistaken quite frequently because they're both Bills and begin with the letter P at the end and are both
Starting point is 00:32:09 white males who are terrific actors, but somehow people cannot keep them apart. Yeah. But today we're playing Paxton Pullman with a twist. Today it's called Paxton Pullman Pantoliano.
Starting point is 00:32:29 That's right. Joey Pants. That's right. With every fact that I say, the answer is either going to be Bill Pullman, Bill Paxton, or Johnny Pants. I think it's Joey.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Johnny Pants. Joey. Did I say Johnny? Joey Pants. Even written it's Joey. Johnny Pants. Did I say Johnny? Joey Pants. Even written right here in front of me, Joey Pants. In other words, Pax Bull Pants. So stupid.
Starting point is 00:33:03 So stupid. So yeah, so that's the game i'll say something to radon gets to go first then we'll if he misses it then sam gets a shot and if he misses it then john at least in this first round has a potential gimme on his hands because it will be now down to only one answer because every time every fact is related to either Paxton Pullman or Pantoliano. Renan?
Starting point is 00:33:35 Nervous. This is yours to lose at this point. Yeah. I mentioned their names in a Twitter poll this morning. Oh, boy. Just question mark, and then their names. Who got the highest percentage of votes? I love these questions where there's no way I could ever know the answer.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Well, you know, that's what Sherlock Holmes is thinking when he walks into a crime scene and then he walks out with a solution and an accusation. Allegedly. Sherlock Holmes doesn't say allegedly enough. Allegedly. It's like Holmes doesn't say allegedly enough. So you got so yeah, so you did a Twitter poll with three of them and whoever voted the most.
Starting point is 00:34:31 I don't know what people would be voting based on. I assume your fans would have the decency to vote the most for Bill Paxton just because he's he's passed from us uh that's that's what gets you a boost up in this world well i mean he's dead i don't know but then it's like a respect vote no no no i won't give i won't do that you know because the truth is
Starting point is 00:35:01 i mean joey pants is the best out of all three of them, so I'll go with him. You're going Joey Pants? Yeah. Lock it in? Unless you're – yeah, I'm going to go with – no, no, I'm going with Bill Paxton. I'm keeping it with Bill Paxton. Okay, we're going to go with Bill Paxton. I'm keeping it with Bill Paxton.
Starting point is 00:35:26 Okay, we're going to lock in Bill Paxton. No changes now. No changes. It's got to be Bill Paxton or nothing for you. All right. That is correct. Yep. That's exactly what I was thinking.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Yeah. Yeah. That's what happens when you watch Family Feud at home. You're like, I thought of that. Yeah. Our boy Paxton got 50% of the vote and the other two fellows split the other 50%. 30 go into pants and only 20 to Pullman. So a lot of not a sinner viewers, a lot of sinner viewers out there,
Starting point is 00:36:06 or at least maybe there's some sinner viewers that don't like his fetish. What's his fetish in it? His fetish is getting stepped on by high heels. Oh yeah. That was season one. I haven't watched season two. Maybe he's moved on. Um,
Starting point is 00:36:24 yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah. I was gonna i i was swayed by your the the respect vote thing but i was like i should stick with it you know yeah i mean there's nothing more fun than talking people out of the right answer i almost i almost succumbed yeah plus just the pressure of saying you gotta to choose now. It's like, oh, wait, what's the rush? You were like, yeah, you think they're going to do a respect vote? I'm like, oh, I guess not. That's
Starting point is 00:36:51 really stupid. And then I switched, but I got my confidence back. I don't know why I'm explaining my strategy like we're after a basketball game. It's all good. It's all good. Sam's up first on this next round. Oh boy. All right.
Starting point is 00:37:17 Let's see. All you have to do, Sam, is tell me which one Pax, Pull, or Pants, was born in 1953. That's all I have to do? That's all you have to do is think about it and tell me the correct answer. Of those three fellas, which one was born in 53 i will say polman the because the respect out of for him still being alive well no because i didn't think the answer would be paxton twice in a row and i'm pretty sure Joey Pants is like 70 now.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I vaguely remember reading something about Joey Pants turning 70 a year or two ago, so that would mean that he could not have been born in 53. But that is what I'm basing it on. So you're sticking with Pullman? I will stick with Pullman. Final answer. You're actually confident. No, I would say my degree of confidence is 50%. Okay. That is the correct answer.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Okay. You nailed it, Sam. Right on. Excellent work. Thank you. Everybody's playing so well today. These games usually take longer. I'll up with that.
Starting point is 00:38:50 I think I can slow things down for us. John, yes. Really cue on this one. Okay. Really give it the old, who wants to be a millionaire, you've got all the time you need to answer which one of those three actors played
Starting point is 00:39:08 Dr. Giordano in one episode of Cagney and Lacey laughter laughter laughter laughter
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Starting point is 00:39:20 laughter laughter laughter laughter laughter Well, if the doctor's name was Giordano and they were looking to kind of pigeonhole the character as an Italian, the obvious answer would be Joey Pants.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Giordano Pantoliano. But it's too easy it's too easy Cagney and Lacey 1980s I really appreciate that we all really take a moment to sit and think about these very serious questions to give very serious answers there's no reason to blurt something out because there might be something
Starting point is 00:40:10 to what John's saying here to help figure it out. Or it could just be babbling. It's true. I'm going to go with the obvious answer, Joey Pants. Lock it in. Final answer. You're going with it. Okay, I changed my mind. You're staying with the pants.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Your pants positive. Yeah. i found myself the perfect pair of pants all right that doesn't work here comes the sound effect oh which one you think it's gonna be john well i don't ask me that i hope it's going to be the whistle or whatever that is. The zany whistle. We haven't even heard the other one yet. The other two players were perfect. So we haven't heard. There's a lot of pressure.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Give me the zany whistle. Here we go. Oh, no. Yeah. Oh, no, indeed. Renan, between Coleman Yeah, oh, no, indeed. Renan, between Coleman and Paxton, who do you think played Dr. Giordano in one episode of the smash hit cop drama Cagney and Lacey? I don't know. Paxton?
Starting point is 00:41:42 You're going Paxton? Yeah. Locking that in? Sure. Oh, damn. I don't know if you've ever wanted to win like this. Uh-huh. But all you have to do now is tell me the remaining name.
Starting point is 00:42:02 The person who indeed played. Oh, God. I don't know no this is just like on wheel of fortune you just have to say it without right mistakes right so my my i want to say bill macy but i know it's that can't be an answer you're already saying the words are getting thrown out of wheel answer the puzzle i believe my answer pat is bill pullman that is the correct ironically that's who i'm my whistle i dropped my whistle congratulations Sam Levine you did it oh yeah first to two points oh wow how about that
Starting point is 00:42:52 there's only three rounds and a tiebreaker want to play the tiebreaker for funsies sure let's let John go first what an amazing run you've had on the show thank you Doug been great having you and I will hit you up either John, what an amazing run you've had on the show. Thank you, Doug. It's been great having you, and I will hit you up either in person or via this style very soon. But here's the tiebreaker.
Starting point is 00:43:17 You're stepping away from Paxton Pullman and just asking something very random. Who do you think got the most votes in this poll that I'm about to tell you about? Same deal, just a question mark and then three names. Who got the most votes this morning when I asked Walt Disney, Walter Matthau, Walton Goggins? Oh, God. Oh, indeed.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Three of the biggest Walt's in the history of entertainment. What about Walter White? Fictional, but sure. Big one. He's a big one. I think he would, unfortunately, I think he'd walk away with this. These others, I mean,
Starting point is 00:44:04 I, you know, there's things to not like about Walt Disney to be certain. But I do enjoy Disneyland and a lot of their movies. And Walter Matthau is just a great, awesome actor who's no longer with us, but was quite grumpy before he left. And then Walton Goggins. I mean, shit. The Shield, The Righteous Gemstones. Was he in Eastbound and Down also? Probably.
Starting point is 00:44:32 He was certainly unjustified. Right. And then he had that show, The Unicorn. I guess that stopped. I think it's over. Yeah. So. Should have called that one The Last Unicorn.
Starting point is 00:44:41 so should have called that one the last unicorn laughter laughter what do you think John Erler between those three I can only go with my heart and who I would have voted for and that is
Starting point is 00:44:57 Walter Matthau you know what don't ever go on a game show with that damn heart hit the wrong one again oh no too late i got the i got the i got the wind sound you can't take it back i was so confused he said don't ever go on a game show with that heart and then played the correct noise and i was was so. It's the perfect burn. And then I did the wrong noise. Well.
Starting point is 00:45:32 But the whistle is more fun than the blowing sound. But no, I'm sorry. That's incorrect. He only got 34% of the vote. Someone else got more than that. So it leaves Walt Disney and Walt and Goggins. Renan, do you have a guess between those two i mean and the jew i'd be very deeply offended if your fans uh were anti-semitics so i'll go with uh walter goggins walter goggins can you even give it as an answer if you can't say his name
Starting point is 00:46:01 name i'm gonna go with uh how about water goggles wait what's his name? I'm going to go with how about Water Goggles? Wait, what's his name? His name is Walton. Walton? Like the family that owns Walmart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll go with Walter Doggins. Come on!
Starting point is 00:46:20 Yeah, he's this is hilarious. He got 61% of the vote, which left 5% for Walt Disney. Good! May his frozen head rot in that freezer. His frozen anti-Semitic head.
Starting point is 00:46:37 Yeah. Anyway, great job, everybody. What would you like to plug, Sam? You get to go first. What's going on? What do you want people to know about? Well, we talked about it quite a bit at the top of the show, but if you have not seen Minx, check it out. It's on HBO Max. It is super fun. The episodes are only 30 minutes each, so it's not a giant commitment. There's only 10 episodes in season one. So, boom, you are done with this thing in five hours. You have binged all of season one and you'll be a better person for it. And of course, come find me on Cameo. That's right. I'm on Cameo. I can do birthday messages. I can do anniversary messages.
Starting point is 00:47:16 But what I really enjoy doing is delivering bad news and apologizing to people. Yeah, I apologize to all the listeners for saying that same thing for the 50th time well you know it's i find doug that i get several more cameo requests after i'm on one of your shows it does work you do give it you do give it a strong sell and i i'm sorry that to try to uh to try to undercut that no it's quite all. If people just go back and listen for the last time you were on, they can hear all about it. Fair enough. And you're going to be on again soon.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Oh, am I? Yeah. Okay. That's what happens when you win. Oh, I see. All right. You know what? I'll cancel my wedding.
Starting point is 00:48:00 Make sure I'm free. Wait, your wedding's next weekend? Almost. Through the one after oh okay well i'm gonna need you to come back next weekend if you can but we can discuss that off there okay buddy all right uh but thank you as always and congratulations on your upcoming nuptials thank you thank you john earlier one last plug before you go out before you ride off into the sunset uh thank you uh thank you for allowing me to be on the show and uh I'm honored to have lost to the giant killer Sam Levine and honestly like my friend John Smith we'll call him John Smith
Starting point is 00:48:41 said that it was going to take a Sam Levine to bring me down. And it did. And also, I was stunned by the skills of Renan Hirschberg. Thank you. I feel like I'm going to have to start again. Yeah, I know. I don't want to leave you out because I learned a lot today about it. I feel like Will Smith, I mean, Chris Rock, Will Smith doesn't mention him at the last speech. No, it was a pleasure and an honor to lose to both of you um and here's my plug uh you know i do a movie riffing show called master pancake theater and uh you can catch us for free on twitch if you just go to that master pancake theater address and uh we do shows wednesday thursday
Starting point is 00:49:20 friday and saturday i'm really excited about next Saturday, April 23rd. We're going to do a, much like the movie Big, a very polarizing film. Yeah, it's called Grease 2. Oh, Electric Boogaloo. Well, that might have helped if they had had that in there. No, this is the sequel to Grease starring Michelle Pfeiffer and Maxwell Caulfield from Empire Records, Rex Manning of Empire Records. And I have always disliked this movie, but the three people I'm going to rip it with
Starting point is 00:49:52 are fans of this movie, which should be interesting. We're going to have Mary Jo Peel from Mystery Science Theater 3000, Martha Kelly of Baskets and Euphoria, and Owen Edgerton from Bloodfest are going to be the other three rippers. So it's going to be great. I'm excited. Well, that sounds those three, I mean, Mary Jo hasn't been on, but the other two, that sounds like a Douglas movies panel. And, um, uh, but I have questions starting with how many actors from Greece are in Greece too? I think I can only think of two.
Starting point is 00:50:28 I think gosh, I'm blanking on her name, but Pinky, the hairstylist. Yeah, yeah, Didi Khan. Thank you, Didi Khan. And I think one of the... Is she Frenchy? Thank you, Frenchy. It's Frenchy.
Starting point is 00:50:43 One of the pink ladies, yeah. I wanted to say pinky Tuscadero. The pinky ladies are a totally different group. Doing specific things with one finger. I don't know, but I think one of the principals who does the school announcements,
Starting point is 00:51:00 maybe one or both of those ladies are in Grease 2 as well. Other than that they completely rehauled it there's no olivia newton john there's no john travolta uh there's no kenicky isn't pamela adlon in greece too i think she does have a small role in it yeah it seems probably true um all right i yeah that's one of those movies where, like, I think the best number in it, the thing that's closest to being as good as the first movie, you know, if you're a fan of the first movie,
Starting point is 00:51:35 is the bowling alley thing in the beginning of part two. And then it just kind of keeps going. I just lose more and more interest until by the time it's over. I just wish I didn't get involved. I feel the same as you about it. Yeah. Like, you know, at least with like a living Newton, John and John Travolta, you got two megawatt star powers to kind of keep your interest, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:59 throughout the film, even if the film is lacking, but I don't know. Michelle Pfeiffer is fine in it. She's good. You can't say a bad thing. Michelle Pfeiffer is fine in it. She's good. You can't say a bad thing about Michelle Pfeiffer. I don't know. The characters aren't interesting. I've never been a fan, but there are fans of this
Starting point is 00:52:15 movie and we're going to have three of them on to talk about. I'm pissing some of them off right now. That's all very cool. Thanks again uh renan hershberg what would you like to plug well uh you know i got my movie podcast joe and ron on talk movies with joe list but also um follow me on uh subscribe to my youtube channel because i just uh filmed a special and i'll be uh airing there a couple of months. So that's just my name, Ron on Hirshberg on YouTube, R-A-N-A-N.
Starting point is 00:52:49 Last name Hirshberg, H-E-R-S-H-B-E-R-G. And also Sam, by the way, I wanted to say I'm a big fan, but you're also the first person ever in a movie to have my name that I've seen. Oh, oh, from, from Bastards. Yeah. Oh, right on. Do people ever say damn it, Hirshberg, to you? I don't get that as much because people are so fixated on how weird my first name is.
Starting point is 00:53:11 They don't even get to the last name. Well, let's start a trend going. But it was very exciting to see. I've never heard of Hirshberg, ever. So you gave a representation to me. My pleasure. Only me and my family, pretty much. But, you know, it meant a lot.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Oh, believe me, it was a great honor. It was named after... I felt... A female friend of Quentin's, her name is actually Hirschberger. Oh, really? Yeah, but he shortened it to just Hirschberg for the movie.
Starting point is 00:53:46 Oh, yeah. I recently met him in Tel Aviv and I forgot. I was going to ask him where he got that name. Oh, there you go. Oh, yeah, yeah. Awesome. Yeah, well, thank you for the, you know, it was very moving. My pleasure. Representation matters.
Starting point is 00:54:02 Representation's very important. Just to shoot the guy before they want to kill him and get that damn in Hirshberg it just felt I'm touched I'm doing stand up on 420 in Portland Oregon
Starting point is 00:54:19 that's with our buddy Sean Jordan is going to be there it's at the Helium Comedy Club in Portland, and that's on 420. And then Douglas Movies is coming to the Netflix's Joke Festival in Hollywood on Sunday, May 1st at the Avalon Nightclub, but at 420 in the afternoon. So come on out for that if you're in LA and DouglasMovies.com is where you can get all of my
Starting point is 00:54:52 upcoming dates and deets. I always say the name, I always say a line from a motion picture at the end and you know, the last line from a movie to be more specific and
Starting point is 00:55:07 today I was just sort of like yeah fuck it but thank you once again to all three of my guests Sam Levine who'll be back soon John Erler also will be back soon just not as soon and same deal with Ronan
Starting point is 00:55:24 Hirschberg I'll never be back I'll be back but you know mixed in with some ladies maybe I don't like these old dude shows you know we were just throwing out so hard the whole time talking about big Disney talked so much about dungs. Classic locker talk. How Grease 2 didn't live up to Grease 2.
Starting point is 00:55:54 That's your classic problematic voice talk. Thanks, guys. As always, last line for a movie here. Now it's time for Doug to watch another talkie. Eyes of gold, his viewing prowess makes him cocky. There's no room in his heart for you. Cause Doug loves movies.

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