Doug Loves Movies - Leonard Maltin, Samm Levine, and Morgan Murphy Guest

Episode Date: August 18, 2010

Doug and his friends Samm Levine and Morgan Murphy welcome the legendary Leonard Maltin back to the show.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Doug hates candy wrappers, screaming babies, sticky seeds with 50 acid pop or kernels in his teeth. They're still not warm, then he won't see, cause Doug loves movies! Hey everybody! Hey, everybody. My name is Doug, and I love movies. It's August 17, 2010. Doug Loves Movies is coming to you from the UCB Theater in Los Angeles in front of a live audience!

That's them. Some of whom are wearing name tags. I see Greg, and I see Liz, and I see names I can't read from over there. Ryan and Sam are here, and some other ones. There's a shit ton of name tags at my show. My show was last weekend, and I was in Bellevue, Washington,

outside of Seattle, at a lovely club called parlor live and um there was one night where we taped a special bonus episode of the podcast that's going to be available soon for download at a very small charge on itunes and it was a lot of fun there was like the whole audience was wearing name tags. It was kind of crazy. I felt like Drew Carey or Bob Barker, take your pick. Both of them say, spay or neuter your pets. So they're the same dude to me.

But this episode is free like it will continue to be every week while we try to work in product placement as cleverly as possible. Drink Coke, JK, drink whatever you want um this weekend i had a little feud some of you may have noticed on twitter i had a feud with eliza douche coup and it was very exciting because the whole time i was like this is how i can get her to be a guest uh it was a whole misunderstanding. I fake blocked her. Something that she wrote. And she wrote back and called me an a-hole. With a period between the a and the hole. And after me explaining to her that I fake block people to entertain my followers. Because it's just funny when somebody writes something nice.

Like my favorite one was, Disneyland, new Sleeping Beauty pin available. And I wrote blocked but I didn't because I love following Disneyland that's crazy following Disneyland so we reached a truce she wrote back specifically truce once I explained to her that I block people just to

be funny and that I'd never really blocked her and I asked her to be on the podcast and of course I haven't heard back and she's not following me. So all I'm saying is, you guys, you know, don't be dicks about it, but write to her and just go, you should be on Douglas Movies.

Bring it on, I say. All right, let's bring out my guests. They've all been on the show before. Please welcome Morgan Murphy, Sam Levine, and Mr. Leonard Maltin. Well, well, well. Thank you. Please sit down. Back for more abuse.

Did anyone stand up? No, but they clapped hard. It's hot in here. It's August, and it was a hot day today, so I appreciate any enthusiasm we can get whatsoever. And let me just go to the paper here, because I wrote down some awesome questions today at around 4.30. Have you ever printed or published those notes?

That's like, I feel like I'm looking at some Dead Sea Scrolls. No, you know what it is? It's like our Crumbs family would write stuff like this. Just jot down a bunch of weird things on a piece of paper. I didn't know Doug could write. Yeah. No, I totally write it all out And it's

I can mostly read it But it's also It's written this way so you can't peek And figure out what's coming up There's no danger of that Yeah It's very hard to understand So as I was saying to Morgan Murphy

My friend backstage in the green room area We were discussing She's in a movie called It's a Funny Story It's Kind of a Funny Story I saw the trailer and it's one of those trailers where they go it's an unusual story it's a crazy

story it's kind of a funny story and then the trailer ends and I'm like but what's it called and then it says www.its'm like but what's it called? And then it says www.it'skindofafunnystory.com which doesn't necessarily tell you that's definitely the title because sometimes when they can't get a title

for some reason they go with somethingelse.com like I can't come up with an example. Anyway, it looks good. Zach is in it and the kid from United States of Terra is like the lead in it. Kira Gilchrist is his name.

Is he in the scene with you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kira is his name? Yeah, and then the, what's her name? Julia Roberts' niece, Emma Roberts, right? Yeah, she's in it. Is she in your scene? Yeah, they're all sitting there. Everybody's in my scene.

Drawing. You're like the drawing teacher. Everybody's in my scene. Drawing. Drawing. You're like the drawing teacher at the... I'm the art therapy, art teacher at the Nuthouse. Nuthouse, yeah. Yeah. And you come in and you art therapy everybody. Art therapy. And there's a hilarious joke in the trailer about a guy drew a beaver.

And then... You know where this is going, Leonard. Yeah, and I say... I'm afraid so. Yeah, yeah. I say to him, he said, what about, can we draw beavers? I said, we don't draw the kind of beavers you're talking about. And then he shows me and it's an actual beaver.

It's a picture of a beaver. A cute beaver. And you say that's a lovely beaver. I said, that's actually pretty good. Yeah, yeah. To say that. But that cracks me up when that sort of stuff gets in a trailer. Because it's like, does the MPAA people that watch those trailers even get that joke?

Yeah. It's like, does the MPAA people that watch those trailers even get that joke? Yeah. Because wouldn't they stop it if they thought that you were just saying beavers in the context that... Because your character meant beavers, as in vaginas. Yeah, I meant pussy. Right? I don't mean...

I don't want to tell you what your character was thinking. I am not listening to this story close enough. But the best part about that movie is I'm in the trailer, and that's pretty much my whole part. That's your whole part. No, but the best part about that movie is I'm in the trailer and that's pretty much my whole part. That's your whole part. It's in the trailer.

Yeah, so people are like, oh, I saw you in this movie. I'm like, well, you saw everything that I do. Well, that's already... Zach Galifianakis shot up in popularity, so his entire parts

are in every trailer. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The trailers were up in the air. He was prominently featured and he just has that one scene, but that whole scene is in the trailer. It was great that that was coincidental that Zach was in that. I didn't even know what the movie was when I auditioned for it.

Then it was Zach, so I got to hang with him for a day, which was... Very cool. Leonard. Sir. How many movies have you been in as yourself? One. Just one? Is it because you been in as yourself? One Is the question that came to me

Just one? Yeah Really? Is it because you're hard to get? Well, one documentary and one fictional film What was the fictional film? Wait, I think I know the answer Is it Gremlins 2?

I think it's Gremlins 2 Yeah But there's a story You want to know the story that goes with it? Nobody won anything just now, by the way That's right But I did get to throw my hands up in the air. Yeah, yeah.

And wave them like I just did not. But I should tell you why I'm in Gremlins 2. Because when I moved out here to L.A. 26 years ago, you know, I was a newcomer. I mean, I had some friends here. I had some work colleagues and all that. But I immediately knew I didn't want to hang out with movie people because I'm a critic and I've got to review them and critique them and that's not a comfortable situation. Roger Corman at New World Pictures and then became a director. And his first really big film was Gremlins.

The original Gremlins, which Steven Spielberg produced and hand-picked him to direct, having seen some of his Roger Corman... Off of, probably off of Piranha. Piranha, exactly so. And he... So I had this very odd, very uncomfortable situation.

I was on Entertainment Tonight. This was in the early 80s when the show was red hot. And people really watched that show. Yeah, people were... Mary Hart was causing seizures. That's how hot that show was. That's right. You have to be old enough to remember that

reference, but it's true. But there was nothing like it. There was no e-network. Entertainment Weekly hadn't started publishing. Entertainment Tonight was like a big deal. And I was on it like three or four times a week. And it was a big deal. Yeah, sitting there in an empty theater.

That's right. Why wouldn't anyone watch a movie with you, Leonard? That's right. There are many answers to that. It's called privacy. I understand. But I had to suddenly, for the first time in my whole life, I had to

review a movie directed by a friend of mine, and I didn't like it. You didn't like Gremlins 1? No, I didn't. I thought it was too mean-spirited. It was. It was ugly, and it led to the creation of PG-13, in part.

And the irony is that Joe put all sorts of in-jokes for his friends in Gremlins that he knew only his pals, his movie buff pals, would get. And his movie buff pals didn't like the movie, but the public loved the movie. He later made a film called Explorers that only his friends liked. Yeah, you'd have to be pretty tight with him to enjoy that. But in any case,

I had to go on the air. I mean, I lost sleep. I actually lost sleep wondering what to do. Should I just not review? I couldn't not review the film. It was too big a movie. At a newspaper, traditionally, the lead critic would then say, you better review this one because I have a conflict of interest here.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was no other critic at E.T. I had to review the movie. And I was thinking, how can I soften my review and maybe make it, you know, no, you can't soften it. You've got to tell it like it is. I had to say I didn't like the movie. So it caused kind of a rift between me and Joe for a while, which I understand. Well, I mean, listen, you know, you put your heart and soul into something.

You know, you work really hard on it. Yeah, but you weren't alone. A lot of his friends hated it. But, you know, it was understandable that it was not a comfortable situation. But a couple of years went by. And I get a call one day from Joe's producing partner at the time, Mike Fennell. He says, well, we're doing Gremlins 2. I said, yeah.

He says, and there's a scene in it where the Gremlins invade this TV network and go into all these different studios and destroy the shows. And one of the shows is going to be a movie review show. We thought maybe you could be the critic on the movie review show. So I said, well, I think I owe you that. So that's how I got to be in Gremlins 2. And then when we shot it at Warner Brothers one day, I mean, it was really weird. People say Godfather 2, by the way, greatest sequel of all time. But Gremlins 2 is close.

Once called by its full name, Gremlins 2, the new batch. That's right. No one would have known what was going on in that movie if they didn't say new batch. You ever wonder about those subtitles? We'll talk about that some other time. But Joe directed me in this scene, and in the

scene they had me sitting in a movie theater type set, holding a video cassette of Gremlins and supposedly giving it a bad review and Joe said, just use your own words. Just recreate your original review.

He directed me in a scene and told me to give his movie a bad review again on camera. That's beautiful. In the movie, which I did and then the Gremlins

came and attacked me. Did the one that was voiced by Tony Randall say anything to you? No. As you were being attacked? No. That would be insult to injury. No. That might have been in post-production. So that's how I wound up in Gremlins. Oh, okay.

But other people have asked and you just say no because it's not your bag? Yeah, I don't think it's appropriate. All right. Well, that's nice that you have some integrity, but I'd love to see you in some movies. Now, Sam's been in a few movies, a handful of movies. Just a handful. In Glorious Bastards being the most recent

that we've seen in cinemas. Thank you. Oh, thank you. I take sole responsibility for that film. Speaking of... Your applause means a lot to me. Thank you. Speaking take sole responsibility for that film. Speaking of... It means a lot to me. Thank you. Speaking of the weird world of trailers, there's an amazing shot in the trailer for that movie of you running

shooting two Tommy guns, machine guns at the same time as you're running or one giant one. One massive gun. But you've got a gun that's way too big for you. Clearly. And you're running and shooting it. It's so badass. And screaming. It's in the trailer, but nowhere to be seen in the movie.

Nowhere to be seen in the film. Yeah. How did that feel and what the hell was that scene? That? Which does not mean I might not be in the movie. Is the next shot you sitting up in bed sweating? Like, was it a dream

that you could run with a big gun and shoot it? It feels like in real life it was a dream now. That scene was shot as part of the Stiglitz jailbreak scene where we break Til Schweiger's

character out of prison. Right, right. You have a lot of guns there because isn't that part of it? You kind of shoot them out of the cell? Yeah, we kill all the guards. But alas, the other side of that scene is supposed to be a bunch of guards trying to reach for their guns

and then getting blasted to hell. And they never shot that. So it's just me running and shooting. There's no other side of that. But it was such a cool shot. It was like, let's put it in the trailer. Right, it makes sense in a trailer, but you can't really throw that into the movie.

Yeah, and it's not a great deleted scene. Yeah, it would be a little weird. What was your character's name? Berger? Hirschberger? Hirschberg. Hirschberg running. Last time I was here you called him Hirschberger. What was his name? Jew? Juestein?

Bagberg, man? Every time. At least I tried. I didn't get that racist with it. I tried to say it right. But I thought you were great, and you were also great as the painter in that other scene. That's right. Thank you. You're welcome.

Wait, I have a small bone to pick. With what? With Mr. Malton to my right. And he didn't know I was going to talk about this. Oh, my God. Why are you bringing up your personal... Because what better place to air this dirty laundry. He was kind enough to...

I got a look at his 2011 movie guide. You have reviewed, I think, four or five films that I have been in. In your movie guide. What's the highest rating you got? I think he gave Bastards three star? Two and a half stars. Is that right? That's the highest rating. There was a gasp. A gasp. An audible gasp. Club Dread, you said

it was a bomb. I'm inclined to agree. Sidney White Club Dread was not a bomb. It's like a one or two at least. Well, he called it a bomb. And then Sydney White and Not Another Teen Movie, you gave a star and a half, I think, each. Which is an improvement over bomb.

So what have I got to do? You're working your way up. It's like, yeah. What kind of film do I need to be in? Ten years from now, there's going to be no talking to you. All right. It's so frustrating looking up a word alphabetically that Smith spelled on purpose. Inglourious is I-N-G-L-O-R,

right? Yes. L-O-U-R. He added a U. Here it is. You got it right. Wait, wait, wait. Two and a half stars, right? No, no, no. Oh, I'm looking at the original. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm looking at the first. I'm looking at the first

and Glorious Bastards got two. So that's great that Tarantino went, oh, a two-star movie. I have to remake it. Try to add half a star. And he succeeded. He got half a star more. He made it half a star better

than the original. And he gave it, you gave it two and a half stars. And let's see. He says, someone who might be named Hirschberg steals the show. Oh. I should have read. But he's racist also, though.

Doug Benson edition. They specially printed Doug Benson edition of the new 2011 guide. And then you say that the director of the original Inglourious Bastards has a cameo. Yeah. See, I love when you throw in stuff like that. Because that's what makes watching something again fun. They had a screening at USC last year of the original

Inglourious Bastards, and Enzo Castellari was there. And a very interesting colorful guy. That was a really neat evening. But apparently his part got cut. Quentin had more... Wait a second! You're telling us to look for a cameo that got cut? He's sitting... Why don't you replace it in the next edition with

look for Sam Levine as a painter with a mustache. Thank you, Doug. What a wonderful suggestion. Signora Castellari is sitting in the front row of the movie theater, though, in the climax. Oh, he is sitting there. So he's like an extra, though, in the climax. Oh, he is

sitting there. So he's like an extra. He just doesn't speak. That's right. Here's another thing. Oh, that's not it. That's going to be a prize for one of the guests. But I brought something for you, Leonard. Bless you. Somebody sneeze. I brought a copy of my movie, Super Jaime.

Because I looked in the app, and I looked in the book, and it's not in either of them, so you need to watch it, and now you have to review another movie from a friend. Wait a minute. So I hope you liked it, so you can be honest about it. It has Spanish subtitles. Yeah, just in case.

It says so right here. Only if you want them. Marijuana. Okay. Yeah, I think they're stressing that because there's also a lot of pot leaves all over it, and they're stressing that because there's also a lot of pot leaves all over it. They're doing some racial profiling by appealing to the Spanish-speaking audience. Thank you very much.

Check that out. I hope you enjoy it. Now, I wanted to ask quickly. We've got to move on to the Leonard Maltin game. You've got to play the Leonard Maltin game when Leonard Maltin's here. What was the last movie you saw? I've seen so many in the last two weeks. Did you see something today or yesterday?

Have you seen Animal Kingdom? No, I haven't. I noticed it's playing at the Arclight, but in the listings it just says Animal Kingdom. I was like, what's that? What is it? It's an Australian crime thriller. Boo! I'm'm just kidding i have no reason to say that i've just never you know you don't get to argue with a critic up close usually wrong wrong malton um you've been waiting so it's australian yeah yeah it's really good. It's really, really good. Guy Pearce is the best-known actor in it.

Oh, okay. He plays a cop. That guy's amazing. He's so different in every role he plays. Yeah, he's completely different. People giggled at that, but Guy Pearce is amazing. Yeah. He is Australian, right?

This is, yes. Or New Zealand. This is such, it's a very tough movie. Really hard-bitten movie. Oh, really? Yeah. About a, the setup is there's a 17 year old kid the first i'm not giving anything away it's the beginning of the movie the 17 year old boy

uh sitting there with his mother in a kind of a motel uh she's just died of a drug overdose and he calls his grandmother he doesn't know what else to do and you you learn from this that he and his grandmother haven't seen each other in a long time. Turns out that his mom and his grandma were estranged. So his grandmother says, I'll be right over. So she takes him in to her family, which it turns out consists of three sons who are all hard-bitten criminals. And this 17-year-old kid, he's a quiet guy, and he's never been exposed to any of this. And the rest of the film is what happens as he becomes kind of enmeshed in their world

and gets in neck deep. And it's really good. But is it in 3D? It's better than 3D, Sam. It's 2D. Yeah. That's right.

Somebody should take that slogan and put it on any movie that's not 3D. Check it out. It's 2D. As they said in the early 50s when they introduced CinemaScope, no glasses required. Oh, that's good. That's a good catchphrase.

They should have tried that with Scott Pilgrim. Yeah. Because that movie didn't do near the business it deserved. I saw your review on my Leonard Maltin app, and I'm so excited that you loved it because it's the kind of movie that older dudes like ourselves could easily dismiss as being just a silly video game thing,

and yet the visual inventiveness of it is so incredible that you still, and like you said, all the actors areiveness of it is so incredible that you're still... And like you said, all the actors are great in it, too. The actors are wonderful, and I love the inventiveness of it, but I didn't love the movie. What? I read the first paragraph in the last. What did you do?

What you did was skip the middle of the review. In the middle, you're like, this fucking blows. But the last paragraph really glows. In the middle, you're like, this fucking blows. But the last paragraph really glows about all the actors and that's one of the things I liked about it is I thought it was

an attractive, entertaining cast. They keep it, I mean, to me, when it runs out of bells and whistles and you get down

to the storyline, which is really very trite, the last half hour, let's say. Yes. It's like, if it weren't for the fact those actors are so appealing and and colorful then they'd really be screwed yeah I kind of like a lot of action movies it's just sort of like the

final third is like a lot of battling that's good you know could be wrapped up quicker and could lead to more fun dialogue scenes but like just some of the some of the things that Edgar Wright does have never been done in movies before, and he does it effectively. He does it very well. Have you ever seen Spaced? Yeah, yeah, the TV series he did.

I only recently... I recently started watching that on DVD, and I liked it a lot. He did three or four series in England. Most of them with Simon Pegg. But the timing, the timing of the gags and the editing and the kind of the deadpan reactions and all that, that was already there when he was doing TV, doing episodic TV. Yeah, yeah.

He's just brought that into features. It's a similar style that he brought into the films with certainly bigger budgets. Yeah. Sam Levine. Yeah, buddy. What have you seen lately? I'm embarrassed. The last two films I've seen at theaters were Inception and Iron Man 2.

There's no reason to be embarrassed. You went to the two of the biggest crowd-pleasing blockbusters. One may be more so than the other. Not to take it away from Sam, but I think, I don't know now now i'm confused about i read your reviews i don't know what you really thought but inception you aren't as you aren't as bowled over as a lot of people that is correct yes

there's a growing faction of people that are just like yeah but it wasn't involving it was fantastic to look at. Amazing production. Well acted. Well produced. But I didn't care about any of those characters. And as an analogy, I say remember Jaws? Remember how those three guys that went out to get the shark were amazing

characters, practically out of literature, amazingly acted, and you cared about what was going to happen to them? That's what I want. And even the dumbest summer blockbuster, I want that kind of connection. I agree completely. I agree completely. My problem with Inception is, I have the same problem with a lot of Christopher Nolan's movies.

I mean, he's obviously a very bright, he's clearly a very bright guy and a very skilled filmmaker. There's no debating that. But I think he's so busy trying to show off how clever he is that he... And with this movie, he really tried to give it an emotional... Yes, he did. But I think it just felt forced to me. Yeah, it did.

A lot of the movie felt forced to me. Yeah, I'd like him to just make... Like, I hope the next Batman is just dark and relentless and ugly. I heard... There's a stupid rumor that Joseph Gordon Leavitt is going to play the Riddler. But I kind of made a face when I heard Heath Ledger was going to play

the Joker, and that turned out to be amazing. So I'll trust his judgment. Joseph Gordon Leavitt is a wonderful actor. Yeah, he's very good. To me, in Inception, he kind of felt like he was like, kind of what's hampered Leo's career, is they both look so young still. Yeah.

That like, he kind of, when he was floating around the hallway, I was kind of like, yeah, that's like a teenager floating around a hallway. How dangerous could it be? And Morgan, do you have anything to add? We've got to play the Leonard Mullen game. We're running out of time. But did you see a movie when you flew out from New York? Oh, yeah. I watched half of, what did I tell you I watched? The one out from New York oh yeah I watched I watched half of no no no I watched half of Iron Man 2 Iron Man 2

which half the first half oh nice actually that's probably my last least favorite half of that movie just because Scarlett Johansson doesn't really start fighting anybody except for Jon Favreau in a boxing ring. So later in the movie she fights a lot and it gets good. I fell asleep. She does more fighting.

I fell asleep. I think I got bored but I also took an Ambien and I can't tell what happened first. If I got bored first or if the Ambien kicked in or if just, you know,

it happened at the same time because God wanted it to happen that way. I just learned that Morgan is crazy about documentaries. I am. I did actually, in the theater,

the last movie I saw was, I saw the, well, I saw the, I saw the Joan Rivers documentary and then I also saw the Phil Spector documentary, which was pretty good. Which I haven't seen yet.

Oh, it's good. What's that called? Do you like the Joan Rivers one? Joan Rivers one I thought was great. Yeah, Joan Rivers is awesome. That is a fantastic film Which I haven't seen yet. Oh, it's good. Yeah, yeah. What's that called? Do you like the Joan Rivers one? Joan Rivers one I thought was great. Yeah, Joan Rivers is awesome. That is a fantastic film. That is a wonderful movie. That's probably been my favorite movie I've seen in a long time. And the Phil Spector one was good. It wasn't, you know,

to the caliber of the Joan Rivers one. I've never said caliber at the theater before. I've been coming here for like eight years. What about, um... I haven't seen the Hugh Hefner thing. Is that good? It is good. It's quite good.

And it's a film that has a lot of surprises in it for people who weren't alive, weren't around when he started Playboy. When he fought a lot of battles that people don't remember or don't know that he had to fight about freedom of speech, freedom of press. He wasn't allowed to mail the magazine to the U.S. postal system, had to fight that. When he opened his Playboy clubs, they sold franchises, and they sold some in New Orleans and Miami, and they weren't letting black people in. And he said, that's unacceptable. He had to buy back the franchises, because he would not allow his name and his logo to be on something that, you know, at a time of segregation was doing that in the South.

And he did it all in his pajamas. Well, that's right. Exactly. That's amazing. He never set out to be a crusader. Martin Luther King had to put a suit on. I know. He's not a guy who set out to be a crusader or to fight these big battles.

But just as things came, he just dealt with them. Yeah, yeah, for sure. He did a TV show called Playboy After Dark, a syndicated show. And he booked all sorts of entertainers. I mean, a lot of jazz people that couldn't get on television then, a lot of comedians, television then, a lot of comedians, and a lot of black entertainers who were not welcome on shows

mingling with white entertainers. And because he was not on a network, no one could censor him. He just did it. It was a syndicated show. I mean, he's an interesting guy who's had interesting episodes in his life, and that's what this film goes into. He often has

like three wives at a time or whatever well there's that too yes they mentioned that yes they did come up that does come up do they show the monkeys in the in the at the mansion because i i love feeding those monkeys grapes i've been there twice i spend more time feeding the monkeys and looking at uh ladies you see ladies every day. How often do you see a monkey? Come on, you guys. Give me a break.

All right, so... I'm just picturing you in the grotto with two monkeys. They're like in a cage, and they have like a little jar of grapes so you can pull from. No, but I imagine at some point, you just want to let them breathe. They reach out and grab it from you,

and then they eat it. Sometimes they throw it back in your face, and they laugh. All right, let's play... Normally I call it the Len Malton game, but in your presence, let's play the Leonard Malton game, you guys. Archie time.

Classy guy. I pretend we have a much more casual relationship when you're not actually here. And people let me get away with it. A couple changes to the game since all of you played probably, so let me just run it by you really quickly. I was not told about changes in the game. No, no, no.

I was not warned about this. We'll start with Morgan. Now the first person who starts gets to name the category that we're going to play from through some options and the year. So the person who picks first is usually the person in last place gets kind of an advantage because they can

zero in on something they may be knowledgeable about. Wait, so I'm in last place? You're in last place already. Just based on everything I've said. Pick randomly in your case it's like i looked down the line of you and went oh who's wearing a hat morgan okay she's gonna go okay so uh let me give you some categories it's sean penn's birthday today the day we're taping this so uh one of the categories is movies featuring sean penn oh yeah yeah good idea

let's pick some uh people for you to play for. I'm so glad he reminded me. This is my three favorite seats to choose from. So Alex, Leonard Maltin is going to play for you. And yeah, congratulations. And Sam Levine is going to play for Courtney. And Morgan Murphy is going to play for Sean. So remember you guys. Sorry, Sean.

Because I forgot already. Here we go. Sean, I'm playing for Sean. So remember, you guys, who you're playing for. Yeah. Because I forgot already. Here we go. Sean. I'm playing for Sean. Sean. That's perfect. Sean. And the first category

you have to choose from is Sean Penn movies. Also, we can do animal movies. It's movies that have animals in them. Most do. And then movies set in Idaho because I'll be playing

the Knitting Factory in Boise on Saturday night. So I'm thinking of Idaho. So what would you like? Movies of Sean Penn? Animal movies? Or movies set in Idaho? Sean Penn movies.

All right, here we go. Then what do I do? I'll let you choose between some years. Would you like 1985, 1995, or 2005? I'll take 2005. All right, here we go. I'm going to tell you some things about this movie. Then I'm going to tell you how many actors are listed in Leonard Maltin's app

on iPhone for this movie. Then you tell me how many names you think you can get the correct answer in. And I will read them from the bottom up. So it's most obscure to the most famous. And Mr. Maltin gives this movie two and a half stars.

I can name one person. Sean Penn. Hang on a second. Slow down, young lady. That's a nice beaver you're drawing. Here are some things he said about it. He goes, Star wattage and filmmaking craftsmanship help compensate for many loose ends.

Yeah, that's a long clue I gave there. And another one is the director has a small role in the movie. Two and a half stars from 2006, and there are... You said 2005. What? Yeah, you said 2005. Let's say 2005 10 names there's 10 names so you could say i can name that in 10 names or you can bid lower

but i name the i'm i say the names after you give me the title no no no oh okay i thought you were on the show once before I was I thought we played the game then We did Oh that's right Okay I need five names Wow That's a bold bid for somebody who was completely confused

I'm always Every point in my life I was just completely confused a second before and it seemed to be fine let's move down to Mr. Moulton how many names do you think you can get in it? or you could say name that movie

I probably can't get it at all but I'll try for four Sam Levine? name that movie I'm getting burned every time Leonard Moulton feeling the pressure and the game named after him Sam Levine? Name that movie. I'm getting burned every time. Leonard Maltin, feeling the pressure in the game named after him. Because I can't do it, but go ahead.

Here's the clues again. This is from your app, so you either wrote this or approved this. Two and a half stars. The star wattage in filmmaking craftsmanship helped compensate for the many loose ends, and the director has a small role.

And there's four names that I'm going to read to you now. They are Hugo Spear. No idea. Clyde Kuhatsu. I'm not absolutely sure, but I think he might have been one of the dancing Eidos on Leno. He was definitely Margaret Cho's mom on All-American Girl. George Harris and Michael Wright are the four names.

Oh, I'm screwed. You got nothing? You're not good with years? You can't think, what was Sean Penn in in 2005? No, I'm terrible at this. Yeah, me too. I'd be terrible at it too. My mind doesn't sort stuff that way.

Nor should it. I'm very linear. Yeah, I mean, you'll remember, as soon as I tell you this, you could probably tell me the plot of the movie, and I'll tell you the rest of the names and see who it comes to first. It isn't the assassination of Richard Nixon, is it? No, no, that's not it. That's a good guess, though.

The other names are Earl Cameron, Evine Attal, Jasper Christensen, no, that's not it. That's a good guess, though. The other names are Earl Cameron, Evine, Atal, Jasper, Christensen, Catherine Keener, then Sean Penn, then Nicole Kidman. And it was called The Interpreter. The Interpreter, that horrible movie. Yeah, which is one of the things I hated about that movie. Such a generic title, you know?

See, and of course, it is a movie worth forgetting. Yeah. But then you gave it a very generous two and a half stars. such a generic title, you know? See, and of course, it is a movie worth forgetting. Yeah. So, but then, so then you gave it a very generous two and a half stars. Yeah, because,

because it's well made and by Sidney Pollack who has a small part in the movie. There you go. And, but it's, you know,

not overwhelmingly good. Yeah. All right. That's fair. Okay. Let's, so Sam gets the point. Yeah.

Finally. Yeah. Thank you. And since Morgan didn't get caught in the middle of that mess, we'll have her start again. Sam gets the point finally thank you and since Morgan didn't get caught in the middle of that mess we'll have her start again I know how to do this now now you got it down now your categories are

it's Robert De Niro's birthday today yeah it really is two of the greats same day so I have Robert De Niro movies or movies set in Idaho, the great category that you guys passed on earlier. And also it is currently the 25th anniversary of St. Elmo's Fire. So the category is movies that feature the stars of St. Elmo's Fire.

So it's two of them in another movie. At least two of them? At least two of them, Sam. Could be three. I didn't research it that hard. That's a bulging category, isn't it? Yeah. So what do you think, Morgan? I'll do De Niro movies. Alright, here we go.

Would you like a De Niro movie from 84, 94, or 2004? 94. 94. Nice pull. Good choice. Everyone's impressed. Yeah. Two stars, says Leonard Maltin. Hugely disappointing are the first two words of the review. I haven't seen you say that about one that you call a bomb as your rating, but two stars, hugely disappointing.

Because it could have been a five-star movie or a four-star movie. Taxi driver. All stars, hugely disappointing. Because it could have been a five-star movie or a four-star movie. Taxi driver. Alright, shut up. Hugely disappointing. And then... Wow, everything gives it away. Every other line from it. Let's see. Oh, here we go. But the story goes

askew. Wow, that's an awesome clue. In a hugely disappointing way. In a hugely disappointing way, the story goes askew. Two stars, and there are ten names. How many can you get it in, Morgan Murphy? I'm going to say five again. I'm going to five it.

You really have fun with that bid, Mr. Maltin. I'm not going to try to challenge that this time. You're going to say name that movie in five names? I'm going to say name that movie in five names. Oh. Here we go. I was kidding. Okay.

Someone named Cherie Lungy was in this movie. Robert Hardy. John Cleese. Ooh, I was right. Richard Breyersyers Ian Holm I have no idea I'm stumped I don't know Doug I don't know

I don't know no idea alright so the point goes to Mr. Moulton and the rest of the names are Aidan Quinn, Helena Bonham Carter I don't know. No idea? No. All right, so the point goes to Mr. Moulton. And the rest of the names are Aidan Quinn, Helena Bonham Carter, Tom Hulse, Kenneth Branagh, and our man Robert De Niro as Frankenstein's monster in Mary Shelley's Frankenstein. Yeah, that was, wow, that was a rough one. Two words, hugely disappointing.

Yeah. De Niro's makeup as the monster was really gross. Like, it was really like, if you really had stitches on your face, it wasn't like human monster with a bolt in his neck. It was really gross. All right, so that was exciting. So now we have Sam has one point, Leonard has one point, and we start with Morgan again. All right. All right. Sam has one point, Leonard has one point And we start with Morgan again Alright Animal movies, Idaho movies

St. Elmo's Fire, alumni movie Alright, animal movies Animal movies Would you like 1989, 2001, or 2008? 2008 There we go Three stars from Leonard Maltin He calls it a sweet film.

And he also says that it is autobiographical. Yeah, it's an animal movie that is autobiographical. And there are... It could happen. Yeah, it could. There's seven names. Wait. Eight names.

Eight names. How many can you get in, Morgan? Six names. Come on, LM. I'll try for five. Yeah. Sam, this is a game winner right here. I don't like my position in the bidding panel.

Yeah, I don't know what happened with that. Yeah. It's like I purposely screwed you. Now, wait. So what are we at? We're at five names? So you could do less names. Go for it.

Or you can challenge Leonard. Don't be a pussy. If you challenge Leonard, you could win the point. Or if you name it, you could win the point. And first person to two wins the whole thing. Oh for it. Or you can challenge Leonard. If you challenge Leonard, you can win the point. Or if you name it, you can win the point. First person to two wins the whole thing. Oh, man. What's your name, Courtney? Courtney's going to be very excited if you pull this off.

I'll give it a shot. Give me four names. Alright, so now, Morgan, you can say name that movie or try to bid lower. Name that movie. We're going to have a three-way tie if you can't name this, Sam Levine. I'm aware. We're excited. Wait, do I have a point? You might. Name that movie. We're going to have a three-way tie if you can't name this, Sam Levine. I'm aware. We're excited.

Wait, do I have a point? You might. Settle down. 2008. Autobiographical. Is it Hoot? Will you not pre-guess? So weirdly.

Hoot. Was hoot about owls I thought it was just about trying to preserve I guess they were in there that kangaroo one with Anthony Anderson that's not what it is kangaroo jack

kangaroo jack no wild guessing three stars three stars Morgan he gave it three stars he gave kangaroo jack three stars alright so it's three stars

2008 sweet film I'm getting four of them sweet film Morgan. He gave it three stars. He gave Kangaroo Jack three stars. Alright, so it's three stars. 2008. Sweet film. I'm getting four of them. Sweet film. Autobiographical. Alright. It's a huge clue. The four names are Joyce Van Patten. Great. That's three of the names. No.

Now we got Joyce Van Patten, Haley Bennett. Nathan Gamble. Great. This one might help you. Alan Arkin. Oh, son of a bitch. Okay, it's not going to help you enough. Leonard, do you know?

I'm terrible at this game. Okay. Alan Arkin, 2008, animal movie, autobiographical. Ooh. I think I can guess the animal. Do people think they know it? I think people know it. Can I try to guess the animal if he can't get it for an extra point for Sean?

No points, but you can guess the animal right now. I don't think that's going to give it away. Is it a horse? No. So that narrows it down. It's not a horse. It's not a horse. It's not a horse. It's some other animal. Alright. So that only leaves you with four

to choose from. That's true. Because who makes a movie about a chicken? Let's see. Oh, okay. I know what movie it is. You do? Yeah, I do. Oh, okay. He's got it. So you don't know? Do you have a guess? No, I don't have a guess. What do you think it is? Marley and Me. It's Marley and Me.

Kathleen Turner, Eric Dane, Jennifer Aniston, Owen Wilson. That movie, I defy anyone to watch the last 15 minutes of that movie and not cry. I did not see Marley and Me. I think that movie would have been so much better if it was a horse instead. Yeah, this dog, we couldn't save it. Well, it's a horse. Oh, that's why we couldn't save it. Well, it's a horse. Oh, that's why we couldn't save it. We thought this movie was an autobiography about a dog.

We have a three-way tie, don't we? We have a three-way tie, ladies and gentlemen. See that? I knew it, but I didn't say it because I wanted to keep Morgan in the game. Now it gets emotional. Yeah. Since it's a three-way tie, I get to choose who we start with,

and of course we're starting with the great Leonard Maldon. Would you like a Sean Penn movie, a movie set in Idaho, or a 25th anniversary of St. Elmo's Fire? Well, other than I can't think of a movie set in Idaho, except maybe Sun Valley Serenade with Sonia Henney. We have a winner, you guys. I think I better stick with Sean Penn movies.

Okay, Sean Penn. There's only two to choose from. Okay. 85 or 95. Let's do 85. I like it. Two and a half stars. I think this was somewhat critically acclaimed.

Just like Inception, you were voicing your true opinion. It's a true story involving Sean Penn. And you call his performance his character amoral. Yeah.

All right. And it's a true story, and there are 12 names. How many names do you think you can get it in? Six. Leonard Maltin. Sam Levine. There are 12 names Yes sir

That's an uncomfortable sound I don't like that sound I don't want to win by Leonard not getting it I feel like it's only just if I win Like I get it Winning is winning when you've got Courtney sitting over there Counting on you I can name it in five names.

Okay. Morgan? Name that movie. It's 85 Sean Penn. Bad Boys. Why do you not let me read the names first? What if I was strict and said no and you're out?

Because I'm good at years. Michael Ironside. Chris Makepeace. Richard Dysart. Maddie Kaplan. And Dorian Harewood. Bad boys.

Dorian Harewood is black. That's something I know about him Bad Boys So you're sticking with Bad Boys? Let's see if you stick with Bad Boys As I tell you Pat Hengel Laurie Singel

David Suchet Sean Penn And Timothy Hutton The Falcon and the Snowman Falcon and the Snowman That's right You pick the worst movies So Leonard Walton is our winner

Or Morgan's our winner? You said name that movie. So Morgan, once again, the spoiler takes the game. That happened when Graham Elwood was on with Sam. Sam and Leonard are good friends,

but the third one always takes it. Well played, Morgan. Very exciting. So winning, Morgan won some prizes for Sean. You know what I find impressive? She seemed confused, but she was actually very strategic. Oh, yeah. No, that's the thing.

I tell people all the time, you don't have to know anything to win at this game. Just say, name that movie. So you win a hypocritical oath poster, my CD that's coming out, CD DVD coming out August 31st. You win a movie featuring Sam Levine called Sydney White with Amanda, Amanda, I retire, I take it back, binds. She was out of the business for a couple weeks, but now she's back in the game, and I'm excited about it because she does good stuff.

And what else is in here? There's got to be something else in here. Oh, you also get a copy of my CD, Professional Humoridian, available at astrecords. Oh, you also get a copy of my CD Professional Humoridian, available at astrecords.com and a copy of Leonard Maltin's 2011 movie guide. A 20 dollar value.

A glorious bastards is in here and gets the two and a half stars it deserves. There you go. You win all that stuff, Sean. Do you guys have anything to plug? What's coming up for you, Morgan, while I go over here and ask these folks who I should call a shithead? I'm just going to go back to

work on Jimmy Fallon in a couple weeks. I just write there, and then that movie, it's kind of a funny story. I'll see how much I'm in that. I've got to write these down. These were hard to remember this week I'll be at Bumbershoot In Seattle in September

I don't know I can make some stuff up I'll also be in I'm playing Carnegie Hall next Sunday Wait a minute I was playing Carnegie Hall next Sunday Are you telling me they're double booked? Yeah, I'm doing a late show.

That's fine then. Do you have another movie coming out, Sam? TV show? I actually do have another movie. It's not coming out in theaters. It's coming out on DVD. It's called Made for Each Other. It comes out on DVD August 31st.

Like all the best movies do. So check that out, everybody. Yeah, check that one out. It's actually really funny, I swear. And then if you haven't checked it out by now internet people listening kevinpollockschatshow.com

I can be seen on it with Kevin and wonderful guests every Sunday live yeah that's a lot of fun that show I did that show once and it was a good

two hour interview yeah and we're gonna have he talks to people for a long time yeah get some stories read in a letter

there you go okay so and you have the current version of the movie guide and anything else? You're on the Reels channel? The new 2011. TV about movies? That's right.

Reels channel. My show has just been reinvented. It's now called Malton on Movies. New episode airs every Friday. That's what it's called? Oh, now it's called Malton on Movies. What did it used to be called? Secrets Out.

Don't watch that anymore. Secrets Out. It's better to have your name in the title. It's nice. It's realchannel.com if you want to find out more about that. Or go to leonardmalton.com, where I'm always logging new journal entries and reviews of books and DVDs and films. Nice. Let's hear it for all these guys, but especially Leonard Malton.

Wow. Thanks, Doug. Really nice. Sam Levine always brings us Leonard Malden so we love him for that and Morgan Murphy writes when Jimmy Fallon says something funny I bet you Morgan Murphy wrote that

right? that's what I just said I wasn't paying attention I was getting the strangest shithead names that I've ever had to say at the end of the show but I just want to mention that Sunday we're going to have the Torque screening at CineFamily here in Los Angeles

with the co-star Adam Scott and my buddy Paul Scheer. We're going to sit and do a live commentary through... You gave TORC two and a half stars, I believe. It's kind of a... Is that the one Dane Cook is in? No, he's not in it. Oh, okay.

Is he? Oh, maybe? He's got a part in it, Dane Cook? How do you like that? Dane Cook was in that movie with what's his name, the basketball player. And then I'll be at Alright.

I'll be at it was Jean-Claude Van Damme and Dennis Rodman and Dane Cook was in it as like a guy that gets punched in the face. Double trouble? Double team. Because it's guy that gets punched in the face. Double trouble? Double team. Double team, because it's about what they do in the hotel room every night after they wrap.

They find some poor intern and double team. And then I'll be at Dr. Grin's in Grand Rapids, Michigan, August 26th through 28th, 2010. Thanks for coming, everybody. And Sam Fickman is a shithead. And Sam Fickman is a shithead. And Courtney Maddox is a shithead. Yeah, first time people have ever really made it personal. And I thank you for that. And as always, those people are shitheads.

Now it's time for the next adventure. Motherfuck me. He hides above his viewing prowess. Makes him cocky. There's no room in his heart. Yes.