Doug Loves Movies - Master Pancake
Episode Date: September 24, 2012Doug does his first ever back room office ep at the Alamo Drafthouse S. Lamar during Fantastic Fest in Austin, TX with guests Master Pancake movie riffers Owen Egerton, Joe Parsons, and Sc...ott Chester.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Doug hates candy wrappers screaming baby sticky seeds with 50 azipop or kernels in his teeth.
There's still not one that he won't see, cause Doug loves movies!
Hey everybody, my name is Doug and I love movies.
This is Doug Loves Movies, coming to you from an office upstairs above the Drafthouse Cinemas in Austin, Texas, the South Lamar location, during the appropriately named Fantastic Fest on Monday, September 24, Two Oceans 12.
Since last I spoke and you listened, I did a movie interruption at CineFamily in Los Angeles.
I spoke and you listened.
I did a movie interruption at CineFamily in Los Angeles.
Zach Galifianakis, Matt Besser, Ben Schwartz, and Hot Saucerman helped me to interrupt the amazing Spider-Man,
the story of a 28-year-old boy who does pretty much all the same things
that Tobey Maguire did 10 years ago, minus most of the fun.
But my guest here today, let's not dwell on the past.
My guests here today are members of a group in Austin called Master Pancake,
who regularly mock movies themselves.
Please welcome, I don't know why I wrote please welcome, there's no audience to welcome you guys.
You can welcome you guys.
You can welcome each other.
Owen Edgerton, Joe Parsons, and Scott Chester.
Hey, everybody.
Welcome, guys.
You guys are all here.
Yeah. And we've got one other creep sitting in the corner for extra audience laughs.
Yeah.
And so tell the listeners about,
Owen, we've done,
Master Pancake is essentially,
is similar to the movie interruption thing I do.
Yeah.
But you guys work harder at it.
You basically,
generally when you pick a movie to mock,
you all sit down and watch
the movie and prepare jokes to say.
We do. And then you,
most movies, you like
run them a few times since you have all the jokes
and a big following.
Yeah, we end up doing it
like a three weeks
or four weeks run, and we'll do
four shows a weekend.
And so yeah, we take some time and watch the movie a few times, write a skit usually.
Yeah, and then when you're doing it four times over a weekend with the same movie,
you can huddle after each showing and say, here's where we need a better joke.
Right.
Sometimes you don't even have to huddle.
Sometimes it's really clear, like, oh, I'm never going to say that again.
That's what it's like when we just riff on the movie interruptions is that, you know,
you just, you say something and nobody laughs.
And it's just either they didn't hear it right or you didn't say it right or, you know, the timing was off.
That's always my excuse.
I'm like, I don't think they heard it because I know it's funny.
Well, because sometimes there's an explosion on screen or something.
It's kind of hard to compete with actions it's true yeah
or like you know if you're trying to make
any kind of long winded joke
sometimes the movie itself
steps on your attempt to make a joke
Joe knows all about it
or they cut away from the thing you're making fun of
because you guys do improvised ones
and we're going to do one tomorrow night
it's already sold out
sorry if you're in the area you can't're going to do one tomorrow night. That's right. It's already sold out. Sorry if you're in the area.
You can't get in.
But it's tomorrow night.
We're doing Fantastic Four, Rise of the Silver Surfer over at the,
what's called the Village.
Yes.
Not to be confused with the M. Night Shyamalan.
Classic.
Village.
Yeah.
And those, when I participate, but sometimes even when I'm not there as well, you guys will improvise. You do. Yeah. And those, when I participate, but sometimes even when I'm not there as well, you guys will improvise.
Yeah.
About once a month.
Once a month.
And the audience brings in movies.
It's called Choose Your Own Cake.
Everybody brings in DVDs.
Yeah.
Judging process, whittle it down.
Yeah, you guys narrow it down.
I guess I should be more clear about whose voice is who.
Owen, say...
That's Owen.
This is Owen.
And Joe...
Yeah, this is Joe.
Hey, Joe.
This is Scott.
Scott.
And you guys, you whittle down the list of people.
You don't let everybody get up and speak.
But then, like, the top ten...
Top ten, top fifteen...
Have to get up and defend their movie.
And that's right. The audience should watch it. And have to get up and defend their movie and that's right
the audience should watch it
and then the audience gets to vote.
Right.
That's right.
The one that won last time
was a little piece of magic
called Bulletproof
starring Gary Busey.
Wow.
Where he
There's also a Bulletproof
with Damon Wayans and Adam Sandler, right?
It's true.
Yeah, but this is not that one.
This was funnier.
This is way funnier.
But for all the wrong reasons.
At one point,
This one's a lot more bulletproof.
Busey, uh...
That's my attempt at a Busey.
That was like Busey sober.
I'd do Busey if he had his shit together.
Oh my god.
Garrett Busey?
Is that higher?
Busey jumps out of the rafters
and he says,
I'm your worst nightmare, Butthorn!
This is that movie.
He actually says Butthorn a few times.
Yeah, a few times. It's because it hurts.
Why not say it?
They're on a mission to recover the stolen
mega weapon of the U.S. military
called the Thunderblast, which is
a tank with three cannons on it.
That's pretty much all it is.
I never think Butthorn comes in because I don't's pretty much all it is. Whenever the butt horn comes in,
because I don't know what the butt horn is.
Scott can't explain the butt horn.
What have we done with you in past time?
We did Lifeguard?
Lifeguard was where I just said,
I just want to do Lifeguard,
and we did it.
And after it was over,
I regretted it a little bit.
Really?
Because it wasn't as much fun as I remembered it.
You know, like I went into it thinking.
It was pretty fun.
It had some good stuff in there, for sure.
It had statutory rape.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's always.
That's how those bring your own pancakes are.
Some of them are real fun.
And then you might hit a little low on the next one.
Well, you guys also do a smart thing.
Like when I do it out at CineFamily in L.A., we just play the the whole movie regardless and a lot of times it's two hours two hours plus yeah and and then it gets a little bit
like it's kind of hard to you know keep it going through the whole movie but i also mostly do it
with sort of recent hits or failures like in the case of like you know like a battleship yeah but
it also makes a movie like that that's like a for me is a great environment in Yeah. But it also makes a movie like that. That's like a,
for me is a great environment in which to watch it.
If you had any curiosity about it,
like John Carter was a good one.
Right.
Cause everybody kind of wanted to see it.
Yeah.
And on the big screen,
but then with people saying things during the slow parts of which there are
many,
it really,
uh,
it makes for a great experience.
Yeah.
But I think the best ones to do are the ones where
I'm sure you guys prefer
movies to be pretty shitty.
No, actually, it depends. I think really
we just want something that is
recognizable. Yeah.
It's like old favorites were great
because people know the movie well enough
that they want to see it and
then they want to see it teased like it's
a roast of one of their best friends. Exactly. exactly yeah you make fun of your brother at the table you know yeah and
stuff in the 80s are great because yeah they have no irony like there's no awareness in karate kid
they would like like it's just it's footloose there's no irony involved and that's just sweet
and kind of fun to destroy yeah we did uh when I did it with you guys one time, the audience picked Skyscraper.
Oh, man, that was...
Starring Anna Nicole Smith,
and that is just...
That was brilliant.
The scene where she's in the shower
with those gigantic boobs of hers
was crazy.
Yeah, when she's wearing pumpkins
on a string around her neck.
She really did look like she had a tumor problem, because it wasn't just her neck. She really did look like she had a tumor problem
because it wasn't just her breasts.
It was like other parts were bulging.
Yeah, she was just a large woman in general at that time.
A large, drugged up rhinoceros.
She looked like two kids in a trench coat
trying to sneak into a dirty movie.
Yeah, so there was that one.
But then you did a thing last year over Thanksgiving
that I just attended that I enjoyed a great deal
called Hank's Giving,
where you show clips from Tom Hanks movies
and not, you know, a lot of the beloved ones.
There are clips from Big and Green Mile
and I almost said Shawshank Redemption.
He was great, man. The rich man's Green Mile. I almost said Shawshank Redemption. He was great, man.
Small part of it. The rich man's green mile.
He was great.
Just from the neck down
so you don't notice him.
Apollo 13. Yeah.
That was John Erler's idea. John was like
this would be super fun to do
and I think he
was born out of the pun of Hank's
giving. Yeah.
But it really works because as much as I love Tom Hanks, you know, in retrospect, it's a lot of goofy shit that he's in there.
Yeah.
You know, a lot of weird stuff happens in his movies.
The fact that you guys illuminated the point that Tom Hanks has peed on camera four times.
That's amazing, man.
Like if you ask the average person, how many times do you think you've seen Tom Hanks has peed on camera four times. That's amazing, man. Like, if you ask the average person,
how many times do you think you've seen Tom Hanks pee in a movie?
They'd say maybe once or twice.
A League of Their Own is pretty much a pretty massive peeing scene.
But then, you know, one person argued with me
that he doesn't pee in Apollo 13,
and I'm like, yes, he does.
He puts it in a tube, and we see it shot out into space.
The constellation Uranus.
So anyway.
I'm trying to think about it.
It's been some time.
Forrest Gump?
Green Mile?
Green Mile.
Forrest Gump he peed.
In Green Mile he has a physical ailment.
He has painful peeing.
He passes a golf stone or something like that.
Yeah.
Wow.
Big has a big pee scene,
but it got cut.
It's in the,
you have to watch
the director's cut.
I think he gets peed on
in Money Pit.
That's right.
Oh, that's right.
He passes the fountain pee.
I thought you were
making a joke.
I'm like, yeah, he does.
I was, kind of.
I thought you were
making a joke.
Well, I thought
it was like, yeah, it's some sort of weird porn called the Money Pit. Oh, I thought it was like, yeah, it's some sort of a weird porn called The Money Pit.
Oh, yeah.
It sounds like, yeah.
But I could talk forever about interrupting movies because it's like, it's something only a few of us do.
And it's, you know, just all the different variables of what makes a movie good for interrupting and what doesn't.
Have you guys done Fast Five?
No.
That's a blast.
Because that's kind of a good movie.
It's got some great stunts, but the plot is ridiculous.
It's true.
All right, we're here.
We flew all the way to Rio.
What did you, why are we here?
And then he tells him the plan.
We're going to rob a bunch of banks.
Oh, no, I'm not going to do that.
And he turns and the plan. We're going to rob a bunch of banks. Oh, no, I'm not going to do that. And he turns and starts walking away.
Like a guy flew all the way down there.
I've got something I want to talk to you about.
I thought it was going to be Amway.
I have another group waiting in Portugal.
I'll give them that.
Well, he's going to make a vacation out of it.
You know, he brought his wife and kids.
They're going to go see the sights.
And they're the good guys.
Yeah.
But when they're dragging that safe,
that safe smashes into cop cars
in a way that is murdering police officers.
And it's just a fun,
I hope the bad guys get away movie.
And there's like a million examples of,
and also just the way,
the scene where they ride the car off the cliff,
Dom and Paul Walker, and they, you know, they just, the way, the scene where they ride the car off the cliff, Dom and Paul Walker,
and they, you know, the way you survive that is to just jump out of the car as it's plummeting,
and you can just dive into the water.
And they do that, and then when they come up for air, they start arguing immediately.
Like, it's not like, can you believe what we just survived?
No, it's immediately like, I told you we shouldn't have come down here, but you said.
Like, they started floating and arguing.
But anyway, there's lots of movies that are fun to do, and every once in a while there's one that's, you know, maybe turns out to be a mistake.
And hopefully tomorrow night when we do Fantastic Four, Rise of the Silver Surfer that'll fit the bill
but that is a smart thing you guys do
removing
20 minutes, 30 minutes
we watch an hour of it and then we break for a skit
and then we come back and watch the last 30 minutes
yeah we just make sure it's always an hour and a half
yeah and you guys always have a crazy skit
that involves like water balloons
or nudity
or a skyscraper involves
water balloons and nudity. When Owen's
there, usually it's in a huge
mess. I'm clumsy.
I don't know why. No, it's not that. For some reason
and let's put it this way, the mess
we're planning for tomorrow night
is my idea, but somehow
you're inspiring me to make it.
Okay, so let me be clear that I don't want
to be in the sketch tomorrow.
Yes! I'll just be watching You're inspiring me to make a movie. Okay, so let me be clear that I don't want to be in the sketch tomorrow.
It's legal now.
I'll just be watching from the audience.
Is there going to be a splash zone?
Should I sit farther back?
No, you'll be okay.
Yeah, feel free to make comments.
How's the front row at the village?
Is it too close to the screen?
No, it's perfect. They've removed...
So they redesigned it so they took out the front edge seats on the far corners.
And what's left is these five or six seats right in the middle of the front row that are perfect for what we do.
Yeah, the album's been pretty good about, like, let's make every theater really good and not have any crappy seats.
Like, if there's a crappy seat, just get it out of there.
That's smart.
That's smart.
Yeah.
That's in a family.
We have the front two rows are couches.
So we get to kick back and couches with our microphones.
And so it's just,
it's as much fun for me and my friends that are interrupting a movie as it is
for the audience.
And sometimes maybe even more so for us.
Back to my podcast from the corrections department,
or should I say the overlook department,
Adam Scott was on the last episode of the show that we taped at UCB in L.A., and he was there to promote the movie Bachelorette,
and neither one of us mentioned it the entire show.
We were too excited about Leonard Maltin being there, I guess, but, or maybe,
you know, we didn't want to find out what Leonard Maltin thought of it. Cause I, it doesn't seem
like his cup of tea, uh, you know, a bunch of a bachelorette party where they were doing cocaine
and stuff. But anyway, bachelorette is in theaters and video on demand, uh, right now.
And I wanted to talk a little bit about fantastic f because you guys are probably pretty familiar with it living here.
It's the 12th year?
Yeah.
Oh, no, I don't know if it's that far back.
It's like eight, seven or eight years.
Okay.
I got confused just because it is 2012 right now, if I'm not mistaken.
You're right.
And I want to say, and you guys can chime in with any of your thoughts you have,
because this is my first Fantastic Fest,
and I'd like to say the things that I've learned so far at Fantastic Fest, my first one.
I learned that the director of Dread 3D was basically forced to make it in 3D
because of financial money you know, money
recoupment concerns.
Yeah.
And I think that their response should have been, you can't spell dread without three
Ds.
So it has to be in 3D.
I learned that the dogs were well behaved when they allowed Fantastic Fest to do some pretty weird shit.
And this year, for the premiere of Frankenweenie, they had the premiere on several screens.
And one screen was dedicated to every audience member could bring their dog if they wanted to.
So 60 dogs or so watched Frankenweenie.
so 60 dogs or so watched Frankenweenie
and I'm told by Tim Burton
during the Q&A after that
not only did those dogs enjoy
the movie but he says that he hears from people
all the time that dogs enjoy
his films
French people, yeah
and I'm just assuming that's mostly because
dogs are more into visuals than
story
because they can't understand what Johnny Depp was saying anyway dogs are more individuals than story.
Because they can't understand what Johnny Depp was saying anyway.
At the same Q&A, I learned that 84-year-old Martin Landau, I almost called him Leonard Moulton, Martin Landau can still pull off a good pratfall when he accidentally and horrifically
fell while trying to step onto the stage, he fell back.
He reached out for help, and the only person there was the child that was the voice of the kid in Frankenweenie.
And he fell.
A little bit.
A little bit.
It looked like the kid didn't try to pull him at all.
And, yeah, and he fell back, and it was very violent and scary.
And then he popped up pretty quickly and said great entrance or something
like that and uh but people were watching it was simulcast in all the other theaters so the dogs
saw that in other theaters the dogs were worried about martin landau martin crashland knowing yeah
it was sorry i'm so sorry.
Tell you what, that kid's never going to work in a business again.
I just feel bad for Martin Landau because what was it now, 13 years ago that Space 1999 got canceled?
Yeah.
Oh, I forgot.
That was longer ago than that.
That was supposed to be the future back when they did it.
That was supposed to be the future back when they did it.
I learned that the 3D glasses provided by the folks at Real3D are not as uncomfortable as some that I've experienced,
but I still don't think that 3D is worth the effort.
Well, they won't be using that in a commercial anytime soon.
I know, I know.
I learned at Fantastic Fest that the festival is so cool that they let me and audience members smoke something in the theater during the premiere of the greatest movie ever rolled.
So that was exciting and I guess is going to be allowed to happen again when they show that movie again on Thursday afternoon.
Cool.
Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't have movie again on Thursday afternoon. Cool.
Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it on the podcast.
I learned while
watching Taped that if you inadvertently
videotape a police
officer committing murder
in a foreign country
where you don't speak the language
that you are fucked.
They should have called the movie Fucked instead of Taped.
I didn't see that one.
Have you guys seen anything?
I know that, you know,
as a local, you don't necessarily...
I was going to.
I was like, I had planned all this thing,
and then this work stuff came up,
and I actually have seen very little.
I've seen some stuff,
but not nearly enough.
What did you see?
I saw Frankenweenie.
Right.
And I saw Landau Fall Down. Mm-hmm see? I saw Frankenweenie, and I saw
Lando Fall Down, and
I saw some of the events. That's going to be a short
next year.
Lando Fall Down.
Chris Lundberg is directing it, I think.
And writing it, he claims.
That's it.
They're going to have to change it to Stumblecore.
It's the big one.
And Joe, you haven't seen anything. they'd have to change it to StumbleCore. It's the big one. And
Joe, you haven't seen anything.
I haven't.
It's been a surprisingly
busy
week in my life, I guess.
In the last several weeks.
You didn't even get a badge issue, right?
No, I didn't. But I think that's
more just me festivals
I find really
intimidating
well it's just
there's so much
to do
and the crowds
and it's just
Joe's got
it's kind of
I'm actually
like an
over time guy
he's like
can't I just
sit in the front
not wait in line
sit in the front
row and hold
a microphone
during the movie.
Can't I just do that?
I,
but the thing is,
like,
as much as I complain
and avoid it,
every time I go
to any sort of festival
or anything like that,
I have a great time.
Yeah.
So,
I think I just need to
get over it myself
and go do it some year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That would have been,
this is,
it really is the best,
it's the best festival
I've ever gone to. Like, fantastic festival. It's the best-a the best... It's the best festival I've ever gone to.
Like, fantastic festival.
It's the best-a-ble?
It's the best-a-ble.
I got a badge
for performing
at South By this year,
and I went to
a bunch of comedy stuff.
In fact, I saw you
at Esther's Follies
that year.
Oh, nice.
And it was great, man.
I saw all the comedy.
I saw all of it. And it was fantastic. No films I saw all the comedy. I saw all of it.
And it was fantastic.
No films, huh?
Yeah.
Huh.
I go see films during the second weekend of South By when the bands are kicking in.
That's when I go see a lot of movies because the badge is still good for movies.
And they're slightly lighter attendance so you can actually get into some stuff.
But I've been having a blast here at Fantastic Fest.
And just one more thing I want to mention.
I learned that hosting the Fantastic Debates is an extremely difficult job.
But, Owen, you pulled it off.
Oh, thanks.
I think most people there were grateful that you were the host.
Because for the listeners, the Fantastic Debates, Tim Leake, the man, co-founder of Alamo Drafthouse, and he probably also co-founded Fantastic Fests.
But basically the top guy likes to have people go into a boxing ring and debate some sort of topic that has something to do with movies.
Right.
And then beat the shit out of each other in an actual boxing match.
Right.
And in the past, Dominic Monaghan and Elijah Wood fought each other.
That was supposedly pretty awesome.
Pretty cool, yeah.
But this time it sort of went off the rails a little bit.
Because Tim Leake was supposed to fight the auteur behind the movie...
Miami Connection.
Miami Connection, which is an
old, crazy movie
self-made by this
Taekwondo
grandmaster, Y.K. Kim.
And acquired by
Drafthouse Films. Is that true?
They have it now?
So now it's going to pop up
in places, I assume all over the
place. Yeah.
As a fun movie to watch because it is a product of the 80s.
Yeah, it's just like out there.
And there's probably quite a language barrier as well.
Yes.
The dialogue is probably very silly.
Yes.
And the music by Dragon Sound is pretty, it's kind of spectacular in its own way.
Like, Dragon Sound is like, everything from the 80s just slammed into, like, a shot.
Yeah, and the band played the other night.
Yeah, they did.
Over at the Highball.
But you had to host the fights, and in the case of that fight between Tim and that guy,
that guy didn't really want to fight because he's an older gentleman.
Yeah.
And Tim Leake really wanted to punch him.
Yes. Tim Leake actually, and fair enough, Tim Leake wanted to be punched. He want to fight because he's an older gentleman. Yeah. And Tim Leake really wanted to punch him. Yes.
Tim Leake actually, and fair enough, Tim Leake wanted to be punched.
He wants to fight.
Yeah, he wants to fight.
He's been training now.
It's a real fight.
He's been doing it now for like a number of years.
And every year, like I think the first year, he's like kind of a little drunk.
He's like, oh, shit, I got hit a lot.
So he's like, he's been taking a few boxing lessons outside of, you know, buying movies
and running a theater and festival. And so, yeah, you know, buying movies and running a theater and festival.
And so, yeah, you know, he fought Michelle Rodriguez a couple of years ago.
And even with her, she's like, oh, yeah, this is kind of fun.
And then, like, he got in there.
Yeah, it's no girl fight.
Yeah, she got real on him.
No girl fight.
This is the real shit.
So, yeah, that was weird.
I think Tim might be Tyler Durden. He might. He just wants to, like, that was weird. I think Tim might be Tyler Durden.
He might.
He just wants to, like, feel alive.
He accidentally started a cinema club.
And then he's like, oh, how can I get fighting into this?
Oh, there's a boxing ring next door.
Perfect.
Yeah, that is perfect.
But I guess this whole facility is going to be rearranged and changed, and the boxing ring is going to be gone.
Yeah, almost everything around it is going to be gone.
So the whole festival will have a whole new look next year.
Yeah.
They're going to go ahead with it and do it again next year, same time of year, right?
Yes.
Fantastic Fest number eight or nine or something?
It'll be nine.
But you got off some really good lines throughout the whole evening of a bunch of people crammed into a room watching fake boxing.
Hey, there was some real boxing.
There really was.
Joe Swemberg beat the shit out of Devin.
Devin Faraci and then the girls whose names I don't know.
Soska.
Soska sisters.
Sylvia and Jen Soska.
The Soska sisters really went after each other.
They really did.
Like, people were hitting the face down to the mat.
They were not wearing headgear.
They were hitting each other,
and they were wearing thongs while doing it.
It was really anything and everything you could ask.
I think if you go to fantasticfest.com,
there's footage of it.
I think so.
Yeah, so check that out.
And just a sidebar,
last night I was watching
the Emmys and
there was an ad for Frankenweenie
and the critic
quote that they use in the ad for
Frankenweenie is
Tim Burton's freshest
twerking years.
Like, isn't that
a serious burn on Tim Burton?
To be like, oh, now he's made something good that you should come see.
Yeah, I mean, Dark Shadows was, what, six months ago?
It's not like...
Yeah, that seems rude to me, to say that.
I mean, Freshest, I guess, isn't terribly descriptive, but...
Yeah, that was bizarre.
It's like saying, don't worry, it doesn't suck like you think it will.
And it is, it's very cute.
Yeah, yeah.
It's very cute, and again, I, you know, I tolerated the 3D glasses for it.
Yeah.
The 3D's pretty good on that one, actually.
Yeah, but it's like all of them, it's just like, you know, how much depth do you really need in a movie?
Right.
Movies are already pretty cool looking. Yeah, that's true. You know, so, that's just me, you know, how much depth do you really need in a movie? Right. Movies are already pretty cool looking.
Yeah, that's true.
You know, so that's just me, though.
You know, out at the Arclight in Los Angeles, whenever you go to a 3D movie there,
it's these heavy, like, you know, it's like wearing a helmet.
And it just weighs on me and makes me sad.
My kids won't see 3D movies that I got.
Well, I'm not going to see Frankenweenie
Your kids are great
They listen to your podcast
Your kids are true humanitarians
Does anyone hunger for games?
I do
Let's play
Scott's like yes
You just explained how to play
to me a few minutes ago
but I think I hunger for it I think you'll be able to pick it to me a few minutes ago, but I think I hung her for it.
I think you'll be able to pick it up,
and you certainly have some movie knowledge,
considering you would not be a master pancaker.
You'd be surprised.
Is there a reasonable explanation for where the name Master Pancake came from?
Not really, no.
It came out of a random... It's just one of those things that after a
while you can't even
explain it anymore.
Yeah, it was a
name everybody
made it equally.
Yeah, we threw it
out as a joke at
one point and it
was like, why not?
Yeah, let's call it
that thing we all
hate.
Yeah.
I mean, it's got an
alright ring to it,
I guess.
Yeah, it works.
Yeah.
People just call it
pancake, too, after
a while.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
You guys want to go pancakeing tonight?
I got my cake on.
How about you?
Peacake.
I was really down with it.
Oh, no.
Tomcat loves pea cake.
I mean, before the divorce.
Wow, yeah.
Yeah, or after.
So let's just play a game of Leonard Maltin.
See how you guys do.
I've got to fire it up here on my phone.
It's good that John Erler isn't here.
He would love to be playing this.
John Erler is usually like, he's done every show.
He's actually in Italy right now.
Yeah, because he won on Jeopardy.
He's a Jeopardy champion.
Oh, so that was his prize?
They made him go there.
You have to pay the taxes on it when you win shit like that.
They do, but there's enough money.
It's still a great deal.
Yeah, they take out the taxes before they give you the check, apparently.
He was telling me.
But anyway, yeah, he's using his winnings.
He's going on a vacation.
His first one here.
I'll have to try to get him on against
Ken Jennings.
Because Ken Jennings did the show recently.
Really? Turns out no one
could beat him, surprisingly.
You should have a little Jim.
Or
I was going to say, or we can get Jon Hamm
in there because he's great at it.
But we'll have to wait and see about that
because getting Jon Hamm
to appear at all is
a Herculean task and I've
pulled it off a few times. I feel like he's
on every podcast. Yeah.
He's busy. He's either making a major
motion picture or a TV series
or appearing on someone else's podcast.
So it's hard for me to get him.
But he's a great guy and he's very cooperative once you get him in the room.
And he's really good at the games.
Man, you know, my big weakness is years that things came out.
Oh, me too.
That's why I run the game and not play it, because I'll be like,
the year is 1985, and I'll be like, sounds like Titanic.
You know, I really did get Titanic wrong by like a whole decade.
I've done that too.
I'm terrible at that.
But I can tell you 10 or 12 people that are in Titanic.
There you go.
So everybody remembers different things.
But let's go ahead and just
for the heck of it let's let Scott
pick the first category since
he's the most unfamiliar with the game
okay I'll give you three
choices celebrating a
birthday today is the late great Phil
Hartman so the
films that had Phil Hartman in them
or
in tribute of the Fantastic Debates here at Fantastic Fest,
movies that either have a debate or boxing in them.
Wow!
I couldn't think of any that have both.
And then also another thing that they do here every year at Fantastic Fest is called the Fantastic Feud,
and that's a big trivia competition that Scott Weinberg, he's like in charge of that, right?
So in honor of that, the category is Fantastic Feud, and that's movies that featured family feud host Richard Dawson.
it featured family feud host Richard Dawson.
So the films of Richard Dawson,
a movie that has a debate or boxing in it,
or Phil Hartman.
The films of Richard Dawson.
Let's go for that broad middle one there.
Debate or boxing.
Oh, man.
All right, this movie has boxing or debate in it,
and it is from, sometimes I even read the
year wrong. It's from
1983.
And I'll give you a few clues
about this movie.
Scott Leonard, it's from Leonard
Melton's review. He says that this
numerous problems
plagued production
of this predictable
movie.
And he also says that it was shot
in 1981. So we know it was
released in 83. So it
shat on itself.
It shat on itself for two years.
Sounds like me in grad school.
Yeah.
Two stars from Leonard for this movie.
Just two stars.
Yeah, so he was not that into it.
And he lists eight names.
So, Scott, how many names do you think you can get?
From the bottom, okay.
Five names.
Okay.
Wow.
That's a wise opening bid.
And now we'll go to Joe.
Parsons.
Man, I, okay, so.
You can either tell them to name it.
Yeah.
Or go a little bit lower.
Five seems like a bold opening bid for that one.
It seems...
I don't know.
It's a classic debating movie.
It's easy, I guess.
I'm going to call them on it.
Scott made that movie.
Okay, you get five names.
Okay, to pick from?
No, I'll name them.
That's the part I forgot to mention
when I was teaching you how to play the game.
I will name all five names out loud,
and then you have to try to guess.
So five people who were in the movie.
Yeah.
Starting from the bottom.
So you're missing the top three.
Yeah, but one of these names might give it away for you,
and you might be like,
Oh, that's right.
That person was in a debate and or boxing movie.
Oh, and 1993 was so predictable, but it had that 81 look.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was kind of dated.
I wasn't wearing anything like that two years ago.
Is there a newspaper stand in any show?
It's clearly prior to those Winter Olympics.
Okay, your five names.
And again, I'll tell you that it's from
1983 and it had numerous problems
at play production and it's predictable
and was shot two
years prior. The clues are
kind of designed to not help.
And your five names are
Fran Ryan, Wilford Brimley,
yeah, so it might be Oatmeal the movie.
Bruce McGill, Warren Oates, and the great Pam Greer was in this movie that featured boxing or debating.
And there might even have been some arguments about boxing
in it.
So you could argue
about debating and boxing.
Like, you shouldn't fight anymore.
Oh, I gotta fight one more fight.
That's a debate.
That's a debate.
These are movies people
have heard of, right?
Well, it gets,
sometimes it gets a little
on the obscure side.
You know, I count on you guys to be, you know, John Erler would have heard of, right? Well, sometimes it gets a little on the obscure side. I count on you
guys to be...
John Erler would have heard of this
movie.
I think he can play the role.
So just guess a movie that has one
of those things in it and you might luck out.
Cocoon?
Wilford Brimley was in Cocoon.
I cannot make fun of you for that answer
yeah you can
that boxing scene in cocoon
was pretty amazing
you shouldn't be growing old
these cocoons gotta go
I'm Steve Guttenberg
no keep the cocoons
you should still keep coordinating the pool the cocoons. You can still keep chlorinating the pool.
Resolved.
Cocoons should stay in the pool.
Well.
So you give up?
Oh, I get to keep name?
Huh?
Oh, I'm sorry.
You said cocoon.
That's wrong.
That's incorrect.
That's incorrect.
So Joe gets the point.
Woo-hoo!
And now you see how it works.
If you force someone else to name it, that usually puts them in a tough spot.
And, oh, speaking of tough, the movie's called Tough Enough,
and it stars Dennis Quaid, Carleen Watkins, and Stan Shaw.
Wow.
They were at the top.
Yeah.
Man, I never would have gotten that.
But Dennis Quaid is a boxer.
You remember it, though, now?
I've got it on blu-ray.
Well, there you go.
That's what happens.
The guy that knows the most about it wasn't involved in that round.
But Owen does get to start this time.
And since Joe challenged Scott, Joe will be going second.
So we start with Owen and move this way. Okay. The order switches each time just to change it up
so it's not the same thing
happening twice in a row.
Oh, yeah.
We don't want that to happen.
No.
We don't want that to happen
to Scott again.
I could play in a row.
Maybe.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
You got the point.
Well, no.
I mean, this part is the worst.
He plays it alone.
It always ends up like,
somebody always ends up challenging the one person
who like, you know,
clearly doesn't know it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everybody gangs up on that person.
That can still happen.
That's not new to me.
That's still going to happen to you, Scott.
But Owen gets to pick a category between,
in honor of Frank and Weenie,
Tim Burton movies that have a dog in them.
Oh.
Probably all of them.
Off the top of my head, I can't think of one that doesn't.
And then someone named Atchneljit, S-C-H-N-E-L-J-T,
very clever screen name on Twitter,
suggested Malmy Maybe.
And that's movies where there's a bear.
Or more, one or more bears.
Malmy Maybe.
And then at Scary Mask, which is a great Twitter handle
at Scary Mask
suggested
Nicholas Page
which is
Nicholas Cage
movies based on
comic books.
Oh wow.
Immediately
narrows it down
to three or four
I believe.
Yeah pretty good.
Yeah which one
of those would
you like to play
Owen?
I'm going to go
with the
Frankenweenie.
I'm going to go
with Tim Burton
films with dogs. Man. That have a dog in them. Yeah. Owen? I'm going to go with the Frankenweenie. I'm going to go with Tim Burton films with dogs.
Man.
That have a dog in them.
Yeah.
Of course, it's going to be like reading the cast.
It'll be the same cast for every movie.
Oh, that's how it's going.
Possibly.
We'll see.
And then this is also another aspect of the game, Scott.
If everybody lights up like they all know what the movie is,
then that's when the negative name thing comes into serious play
because then everyone knows what it is.
It's obvious, but now you've got to figure out who the cast was
and what order they got billing in.
The year is 1985.
Two and a half stars from Leonard.
He says about the movie that it has some real laughs.
Real laughs. he says about the movie that it has some real laughs real laughs but then he says
not enough to sustain
a feature length film
so again
the clues
aren't very helpful
because he could say that
about most Tim Burton movies
and he lists
ten names
how many names
do you think
you can get it in
Owen
Owen underscore
Edgerton
on Twitter
I'm gonna say
I can name it
zero names
see that's
this is what happens
yeah
and I'm gonna say
negative one
so
I think that's the only can you go further than that Yeah, and I'm going to say negative one. So.
And I think that's the only.
Can you go further than that on that one?
They really are ganging up on you, Scott.
I'm going to just blurt out the name.
No, that's not how it's done.
So now you have to, if you can think of who the top two people were in this movie.
I think I know the movie, but I don't think I know the people.
So you have to put it on.
I have to call one of their bluffs?
It's Joe.
You have to call Joe's bluff and say, name that movie, Joe.
Name that movie, Joe.
Okay.
So you've got to name the movie.
The movie is Pee-wee's Big Adventure.
And who's the top billed person?
And, man, I wonder how they've listed it,
but I'm going to go ahead and say Paul Rubens.
You think there's other possibilities?
It could be Pee-wee Herman.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
That is a very good point.
But, you know, Leonard is very, you know,
he knows who Pee-wee Herman is,
or he knows who played him. Yes.
So both of those are correct.
Yay!
And because you're the first person to two points, you win the game.
Yes!
It's over?
It's over already.
We're so fast.
Oh, it's a close.
Oh, no.
I saved them.
Woo!
That's why you brought me here, Joe.
I said negative one.
We brought you to this weird office that's going to be torn down soon.
So who's the second Bill person in that movie?
I'm curious.
Well, what character is in it the most after Pee-wee?
Maybe Dottie?
Dottie would be, yeah.
Who played her?
The girl from Powerpuff Girls.
Dottie would be, yeah.
Who played her?
The girl from Powerpuff Girls.
And she was also in, God, I don't know her name, though.
She was in that great scene in Fandango where they're shooting the fireworks off in the cemetery.
She's like one of those crazy girls that Kevin Costner and Judd Nelson run into and have that fireworks fight in the cemetery.
She's in Valley Girl.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah, and she's in either Better Off Dead or...
And she had a band.
I mean, she sings.
Yeah, she's a musician.
She's cute.
Mm-hmm.
And her name is Elizabeth Daly.
That's her.
Elizabeth Daly.
Then Mark Holton, which is the fat bully kid.
Okay.
And then Diane Salinger, who was, what was her name?
Mark?
No, no.
Simone.
Simone.
Simone.
Simone.
I always get it confused with, yeah, I always get her name confused with, I want to call her Camille, because on his first HBO special, he kept making fun of a woman and Camille
in the audience.
He used that same voice where he'd go, Camille, Camille.
And then the movie came out
and it was Simone.
Andy!
Yeah.
Yeah,
and then the names get crazy
like Elvira was in it
and James Brolin
and Morgan Fairchild.
Right.
Morgan Fairchild.
But if we'd have gone,
if somebody had said
two names
and only gotten
the bottom two names,
they would have been
Phil Hartman
and Jan Hooks.
Ooh.
And those would have been great clues,
because Jan Hooks is the tour guide at the Alamo.
Right.
Oh, that's right.
That would have been good. And you guys do live in Texas.
Yes, there is.
By the way.
Thanks.
I came all this way to point that out to you guys.
Step into my office.
I want to tell you guys what state you're in.
But, yeah, so that's how the game works. We just, that was, we lost. I want to tell you guys what state you're in. But yeah,
so that's how the game works.
We just,
that was,
we lost.
I know.
Owen didn't really get to play.
It's over before it starts sometimes.
Man,
I've experienced a lot of life.
It's a big moment for you.
It's a big moment for you.
It's a big moment for you.
It's a big moment for Joe.
Yeah,
because you also,
by doing that,
by going negative names
and getting it correctly
and winning the game,
that qualifies you for the next tournament of championships.
Oh, my God.
This is the best name Joe's ever given.
So now the guy that doesn't have time to go see a movie is going to have to go on a plane and go off to L.A. to talk about movies.
I would do that.
I really would do that.
All right.
Well, you're on the
home for that. His only stipulation is that I come.
Or you
could end up playing
sometime when I record an episode here, because
I do them out on the road
sometimes with an audience,
like this Wednesday,
for instance. And I should tell the listeners,
in case this plops in time for them to hear it,
if you live in Austin and you're intimidated by Fantastic Fest people and all their badges and whatnot, the Highball is free to get into Wednesday afternoon.
We'll start 420-ish.
But if you get there early, all the people with badges are going to be watching movies.
They're not going to get there early because they have badges.
They're not going to get there early because they have badges.
So you can get into the highball and, you know, just spend the afternoon getting drunk and getting ready for a live Doug Loves Movies.
And do you guys have anything coming up that you want to plug?
Sure.
Master Pancake has a Twitter.
It's at Master Pancake.
That's right.
We are doing Forrest Gump this month.
We'll be doing Forrest Gump this weekend and next weekend.
After that, we will be doing... So what, into October?
Is that right?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's right.
This is October.
Or as I like to call it, Gumptober.
Yes, yes.
Doesn't really work.
You're starting out in gumptember and moving into
gumptober
uh
yeah
and then next month
we'll be doing
halloween
and
night of the living dead
one of my favorite
movies
night of the living dead
those are great
ones to do
yeah I refuse
to do halloween
because I like it
too much
the movie
but there's so much
so much material so much there's very little dialogue in that movie. But there's so much... So much material.
So much...
There's very little dialogue in that movie.
Yes.
So there's plenty of opportunity to throw in your things.
It'll get a little tricky because it's kind of the same throughout in terms of the location
and it's really dark the whole time.
Yeah, it is really.
It's a really dark movie.
But there's a lot of good stuff to be said during that.
Yeah, and that's...
Consider that Mike Myers doesn't have a lot of good stuff to be said during that. Consider that Michael Myers
doesn't have a voice of his own
all the opportunities.
Oh my god, you guys are going to say what he's saying
when he's stabbing people.
Yeah, it's great. Joe also, for a large part
of the film, voices the
jack-o'-lanterns
in the background. Oh, that's fun.
So there's sort of a jack-o'-lantern who's there witnessing
almost everything that happens. He's like an emcee of the movie. He just that's fun. So there's sort of a jack-o'-lantern who's there witnessing almost everything that happens.
I like that.
He's like an MC of the movie.
He just appears
at the time of time.
Everybody having a good time.
Yes, okay.
Enjoy a bonbon.
So yeah, that's fun.
I love it.
I should say that
my sketch group,
Stag Comedy,
will be performing
in Seattle and Portland
on October
5th
no 4th, 5th and 6th
you guys love Seattle and Portland
it's great, you took the Twilight movie
there, that's true
and this is a different group that I'm in but
we will also be going back, we actually were just here
this is a different group, it's really actually inappropriate
for you to be plugging that right now
I think right?
No, you can plug your individual stuff.
I can't recommend it.
I can't speak to the quality of your steps.
How many people are in it?
There's six of us.
At least one-sixth of this group is funny.
I can tell you that.
It might be... Not me, might be... Was another name you considered
Joe and the Dead Weights?
And Scott, do you have anything personal you want to plug?
We just got Gump going
the next two weekends, and I'll be playing with
Jean-Pierre and the Zydeco Angels at Hardtails
this Thursday.
I can't vouch for that.
You won.
You're the big winner, so you don't
get to do it.
Alright, so thanks to you guys for
doing this. I appreciate it.
I'll be at the Ann Arbor Comedy
Showcase on Saturday, October 6th at 420.
Arlington Drafthouse in Virginia
on October 7th. Arlington, Virginia.
Douglas Movies at the Gramercy in New York City on Monday, October 8th.
I've already lined up some amazing guests for that.
I know the last one was amazing, and I have to talk myself, so I'm trying to do that.
Schedule's permitting.
Minneapolis at Acme on October 20th at 420.
Zany's in Rosemont, Illinois on Sunday
October 21st, and
Phoenix Stand Up Live
on Saturday, October 27th, also at 420.
I do a lot of shows at 420.
I noticed that. Thank you, Master Pancake.
And as always,
Bart Duarte is a shithead
and Judas Iscariot
is a shithead.
Now it's time for Doug to watch another talkie. head and Judas Iscariot.