Doug Loves Movies - Master Pancake

Episode Date: September 24, 2012

Doug does his first ever back room office ep at the Alamo Drafthouse S. Lamar during Fantastic Fest in Austin, TX with guests Master Pancake movie riffers Owen Egerton, Joe Parsons, and Sc...ott Chester.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Doug hates candy wrappers screaming baby sticky seeds with 50 azipop or kernels in his teeth. There's still not one that he won't see, cause Doug loves movies! Hey everybody, my name is Doug and I love movies. This is Doug Loves Movies, coming to you from an office upstairs above the Drafthouse Cinemas in Austin, Texas, the South Lamar location, during the appropriately named Fantastic Fest on Monday, September 24, Two Oceans 12. Since last I spoke and you listened, I did a movie interruption at CineFamily in Los Angeles. I spoke and you listened. I did a movie interruption at CineFamily in Los Angeles. Zach Galifianakis, Matt Besser, Ben Schwartz, and Hot Saucerman helped me to interrupt the amazing Spider-Man,
Starting point is 00:00:53 the story of a 28-year-old boy who does pretty much all the same things that Tobey Maguire did 10 years ago, minus most of the fun. But my guest here today, let's not dwell on the past. My guests here today are members of a group in Austin called Master Pancake, who regularly mock movies themselves. Please welcome, I don't know why I wrote please welcome, there's no audience to welcome you guys. You can welcome you guys. You can welcome each other.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Owen Edgerton, Joe Parsons, and Scott Chester. Hey, everybody. Welcome, guys. You guys are all here. Yeah. And we've got one other creep sitting in the corner for extra audience laughs. Yeah. And so tell the listeners about, Owen, we've done,
Starting point is 00:01:48 Master Pancake is essentially, is similar to the movie interruption thing I do. Yeah. But you guys work harder at it. You basically, generally when you pick a movie to mock, you all sit down and watch the movie and prepare jokes to say.
Starting point is 00:02:08 We do. And then you, most movies, you like run them a few times since you have all the jokes and a big following. Yeah, we end up doing it like a three weeks or four weeks run, and we'll do four shows a weekend.
Starting point is 00:02:24 And so yeah, we take some time and watch the movie a few times, write a skit usually. Yeah, and then when you're doing it four times over a weekend with the same movie, you can huddle after each showing and say, here's where we need a better joke. Right. Sometimes you don't even have to huddle. Sometimes it's really clear, like, oh, I'm never going to say that again. That's what it's like when we just riff on the movie interruptions is that, you know, you just, you say something and nobody laughs.
Starting point is 00:02:51 And it's just either they didn't hear it right or you didn't say it right or, you know, the timing was off. That's always my excuse. I'm like, I don't think they heard it because I know it's funny. Well, because sometimes there's an explosion on screen or something. It's kind of hard to compete with actions it's true yeah or like you know if you're trying to make any kind of long winded joke sometimes the movie itself
Starting point is 00:03:12 steps on your attempt to make a joke Joe knows all about it or they cut away from the thing you're making fun of because you guys do improvised ones and we're going to do one tomorrow night it's already sold out sorry if you're in the area you can't're going to do one tomorrow night. That's right. It's already sold out. Sorry if you're in the area. You can't get in.
Starting point is 00:03:27 But it's tomorrow night. We're doing Fantastic Four, Rise of the Silver Surfer over at the, what's called the Village. Yes. Not to be confused with the M. Night Shyamalan. Classic. Village. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:42 And those, when I participate, but sometimes even when I'm not there as well, you guys will improvise. You do. Yeah. And those, when I participate, but sometimes even when I'm not there as well, you guys will improvise. Yeah. About once a month. Once a month. And the audience brings in movies. It's called Choose Your Own Cake. Everybody brings in DVDs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Judging process, whittle it down. Yeah, you guys narrow it down. I guess I should be more clear about whose voice is who. Owen, say... That's Owen. This is Owen. And Joe... Yeah, this is Joe.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Hey, Joe. This is Scott. Scott. And you guys, you whittle down the list of people. You don't let everybody get up and speak. But then, like, the top ten... Top ten, top fifteen... Have to get up and defend their movie.
Starting point is 00:04:24 And that's right. The audience should watch it. And have to get up and defend their movie and that's right the audience should watch it and then the audience gets to vote. Right. That's right. The one that won last time was a little piece of magic called Bulletproof
Starting point is 00:04:34 starring Gary Busey. Wow. Where he There's also a Bulletproof with Damon Wayans and Adam Sandler, right? It's true. Yeah, but this is not that one. This was funnier.
Starting point is 00:04:43 This is way funnier. But for all the wrong reasons. At one point, This one's a lot more bulletproof. Busey, uh... That's my attempt at a Busey. That was like Busey sober. I'd do Busey if he had his shit together.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Oh my god. Garrett Busey? Is that higher? Busey jumps out of the rafters and he says, I'm your worst nightmare, Butthorn! This is that movie. He actually says Butthorn a few times.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Yeah, a few times. It's because it hurts. Why not say it? They're on a mission to recover the stolen mega weapon of the U.S. military called the Thunderblast, which is a tank with three cannons on it. That's pretty much all it is. I never think Butthorn comes in because I don't's pretty much all it is. Whenever the butt horn comes in,
Starting point is 00:05:25 because I don't know what the butt horn is. Scott can't explain the butt horn. What have we done with you in past time? We did Lifeguard? Lifeguard was where I just said, I just want to do Lifeguard, and we did it. And after it was over,
Starting point is 00:05:41 I regretted it a little bit. Really? Because it wasn't as much fun as I remembered it. You know, like I went into it thinking. It was pretty fun. It had some good stuff in there, for sure. It had statutory rape. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:52 So that's always. That's how those bring your own pancakes are. Some of them are real fun. And then you might hit a little low on the next one. Well, you guys also do a smart thing. Like when I do it out at CineFamily in L.A., we just play the the whole movie regardless and a lot of times it's two hours two hours plus yeah and and then it gets a little bit like it's kind of hard to you know keep it going through the whole movie but i also mostly do it with sort of recent hits or failures like in the case of like you know like a battleship yeah but
Starting point is 00:06:21 it also makes a movie like that that's like a for me is a great environment in Yeah. But it also makes a movie like that. That's like a, for me is a great environment in which to watch it. If you had any curiosity about it, like John Carter was a good one. Right. Cause everybody kind of wanted to see it. Yeah. And on the big screen,
Starting point is 00:06:35 but then with people saying things during the slow parts of which there are many, it really, uh, it makes for a great experience. Yeah. But I think the best ones to do are the ones where I'm sure you guys prefer
Starting point is 00:06:47 movies to be pretty shitty. No, actually, it depends. I think really we just want something that is recognizable. Yeah. It's like old favorites were great because people know the movie well enough that they want to see it and then they want to see it teased like it's
Starting point is 00:07:03 a roast of one of their best friends. Exactly. exactly yeah you make fun of your brother at the table you know yeah and stuff in the 80s are great because yeah they have no irony like there's no awareness in karate kid they would like like it's just it's footloose there's no irony involved and that's just sweet and kind of fun to destroy yeah we did uh when I did it with you guys one time, the audience picked Skyscraper. Oh, man, that was... Starring Anna Nicole Smith, and that is just... That was brilliant.
Starting point is 00:07:32 The scene where she's in the shower with those gigantic boobs of hers was crazy. Yeah, when she's wearing pumpkins on a string around her neck. She really did look like she had a tumor problem, because it wasn't just her neck. She really did look like she had a tumor problem because it wasn't just her breasts. It was like other parts were bulging.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah, she was just a large woman in general at that time. A large, drugged up rhinoceros. She looked like two kids in a trench coat trying to sneak into a dirty movie. Yeah, so there was that one. But then you did a thing last year over Thanksgiving that I just attended that I enjoyed a great deal called Hank's Giving,
Starting point is 00:08:13 where you show clips from Tom Hanks movies and not, you know, a lot of the beloved ones. There are clips from Big and Green Mile and I almost said Shawshank Redemption. He was great, man. The rich man's Green Mile. I almost said Shawshank Redemption. He was great, man. Small part of it. The rich man's green mile. He was great. Just from the neck down
Starting point is 00:08:32 so you don't notice him. Apollo 13. Yeah. That was John Erler's idea. John was like this would be super fun to do and I think he was born out of the pun of Hank's giving. Yeah. But it really works because as much as I love Tom Hanks, you know, in retrospect, it's a lot of goofy shit that he's in there.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Yeah. You know, a lot of weird stuff happens in his movies. The fact that you guys illuminated the point that Tom Hanks has peed on camera four times. That's amazing, man. Like if you ask the average person, how many times do you think you've seen Tom Hanks has peed on camera four times. That's amazing, man. Like, if you ask the average person, how many times do you think you've seen Tom Hanks pee in a movie? They'd say maybe once or twice. A League of Their Own is pretty much a pretty massive peeing scene.
Starting point is 00:09:14 But then, you know, one person argued with me that he doesn't pee in Apollo 13, and I'm like, yes, he does. He puts it in a tube, and we see it shot out into space. The constellation Uranus. So anyway. I'm trying to think about it. It's been some time.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Forrest Gump? Green Mile? Green Mile. Forrest Gump he peed. In Green Mile he has a physical ailment. He has painful peeing. He passes a golf stone or something like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Wow. Big has a big pee scene, but it got cut. It's in the, you have to watch the director's cut. I think he gets peed on in Money Pit.
Starting point is 00:09:51 That's right. Oh, that's right. He passes the fountain pee. I thought you were making a joke. I'm like, yeah, he does. I was, kind of. I thought you were
Starting point is 00:10:02 making a joke. Well, I thought it was like, yeah, it's some sort of weird porn called the Money Pit. Oh, I thought it was like, yeah, it's some sort of a weird porn called The Money Pit. Oh, yeah. It sounds like, yeah. But I could talk forever about interrupting movies because it's like, it's something only a few of us do. And it's, you know, just all the different variables of what makes a movie good for interrupting and what doesn't. Have you guys done Fast Five?
Starting point is 00:10:26 No. That's a blast. Because that's kind of a good movie. It's got some great stunts, but the plot is ridiculous. It's true. All right, we're here. We flew all the way to Rio. What did you, why are we here?
Starting point is 00:10:39 And then he tells him the plan. We're going to rob a bunch of banks. Oh, no, I'm not going to do that. And he turns and the plan. We're going to rob a bunch of banks. Oh, no, I'm not going to do that. And he turns and starts walking away. Like a guy flew all the way down there. I've got something I want to talk to you about. I thought it was going to be Amway. I have another group waiting in Portugal.
Starting point is 00:10:55 I'll give them that. Well, he's going to make a vacation out of it. You know, he brought his wife and kids. They're going to go see the sights. And they're the good guys. Yeah. But when they're dragging that safe, that safe smashes into cop cars
Starting point is 00:11:08 in a way that is murdering police officers. And it's just a fun, I hope the bad guys get away movie. And there's like a million examples of, and also just the way, the scene where they ride the car off the cliff, Dom and Paul Walker, and they, you know, they just, the way, the scene where they ride the car off the cliff, Dom and Paul Walker, and they, you know, the way you survive that is to just jump out of the car as it's plummeting,
Starting point is 00:11:32 and you can just dive into the water. And they do that, and then when they come up for air, they start arguing immediately. Like, it's not like, can you believe what we just survived? No, it's immediately like, I told you we shouldn't have come down here, but you said. Like, they started floating and arguing. But anyway, there's lots of movies that are fun to do, and every once in a while there's one that's, you know, maybe turns out to be a mistake. And hopefully tomorrow night when we do Fantastic Four, Rise of the Silver Surfer that'll fit the bill but that is a smart thing you guys do
Starting point is 00:12:07 removing 20 minutes, 30 minutes we watch an hour of it and then we break for a skit and then we come back and watch the last 30 minutes yeah we just make sure it's always an hour and a half yeah and you guys always have a crazy skit that involves like water balloons or nudity
Starting point is 00:12:24 or a skyscraper involves water balloons and nudity. When Owen's there, usually it's in a huge mess. I'm clumsy. I don't know why. No, it's not that. For some reason and let's put it this way, the mess we're planning for tomorrow night is my idea, but somehow
Starting point is 00:12:39 you're inspiring me to make it. Okay, so let me be clear that I don't want to be in the sketch tomorrow. Yes! I'll just be watching You're inspiring me to make a movie. Okay, so let me be clear that I don't want to be in the sketch tomorrow. It's legal now. I'll just be watching from the audience. Is there going to be a splash zone? Should I sit farther back?
Starting point is 00:12:53 No, you'll be okay. Yeah, feel free to make comments. How's the front row at the village? Is it too close to the screen? No, it's perfect. They've removed... So they redesigned it so they took out the front edge seats on the far corners. And what's left is these five or six seats right in the middle of the front row that are perfect for what we do. Yeah, the album's been pretty good about, like, let's make every theater really good and not have any crappy seats.
Starting point is 00:13:23 Like, if there's a crappy seat, just get it out of there. That's smart. That's smart. Yeah. That's in a family. We have the front two rows are couches. So we get to kick back and couches with our microphones. And so it's just,
Starting point is 00:13:35 it's as much fun for me and my friends that are interrupting a movie as it is for the audience. And sometimes maybe even more so for us. Back to my podcast from the corrections department, or should I say the overlook department, Adam Scott was on the last episode of the show that we taped at UCB in L.A., and he was there to promote the movie Bachelorette, and neither one of us mentioned it the entire show. We were too excited about Leonard Maltin being there, I guess, but, or maybe,
Starting point is 00:14:07 you know, we didn't want to find out what Leonard Maltin thought of it. Cause I, it doesn't seem like his cup of tea, uh, you know, a bunch of a bachelorette party where they were doing cocaine and stuff. But anyway, bachelorette is in theaters and video on demand, uh, right now. And I wanted to talk a little bit about fantastic f because you guys are probably pretty familiar with it living here. It's the 12th year? Yeah. Oh, no, I don't know if it's that far back. It's like eight, seven or eight years.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Okay. I got confused just because it is 2012 right now, if I'm not mistaken. You're right. And I want to say, and you guys can chime in with any of your thoughts you have, because this is my first Fantastic Fest, and I'd like to say the things that I've learned so far at Fantastic Fest, my first one. I learned that the director of Dread 3D was basically forced to make it in 3D because of financial money you know, money
Starting point is 00:15:06 recoupment concerns. Yeah. And I think that their response should have been, you can't spell dread without three Ds. So it has to be in 3D. I learned that the dogs were well behaved when they allowed Fantastic Fest to do some pretty weird shit. And this year, for the premiere of Frankenweenie, they had the premiere on several screens. And one screen was dedicated to every audience member could bring their dog if they wanted to.
Starting point is 00:15:40 So 60 dogs or so watched Frankenweenie. so 60 dogs or so watched Frankenweenie and I'm told by Tim Burton during the Q&A after that not only did those dogs enjoy the movie but he says that he hears from people all the time that dogs enjoy his films
Starting point is 00:15:54 French people, yeah and I'm just assuming that's mostly because dogs are more into visuals than story because they can't understand what Johnny Depp was saying anyway dogs are more individuals than story. Because they can't understand what Johnny Depp was saying anyway. At the same Q&A, I learned that 84-year-old Martin Landau, I almost called him Leonard Moulton, Martin Landau can still pull off a good pratfall when he accidentally and horrifically fell while trying to step onto the stage, he fell back.
Starting point is 00:16:26 He reached out for help, and the only person there was the child that was the voice of the kid in Frankenweenie. And he fell. A little bit. A little bit. It looked like the kid didn't try to pull him at all. And, yeah, and he fell back, and it was very violent and scary. And then he popped up pretty quickly and said great entrance or something like that and uh but people were watching it was simulcast in all the other theaters so the dogs
Starting point is 00:16:52 saw that in other theaters the dogs were worried about martin landau martin crashland knowing yeah it was sorry i'm so sorry. Tell you what, that kid's never going to work in a business again. I just feel bad for Martin Landau because what was it now, 13 years ago that Space 1999 got canceled? Yeah. Oh, I forgot. That was longer ago than that. That was supposed to be the future back when they did it.
Starting point is 00:17:22 That was supposed to be the future back when they did it. I learned that the 3D glasses provided by the folks at Real3D are not as uncomfortable as some that I've experienced, but I still don't think that 3D is worth the effort. Well, they won't be using that in a commercial anytime soon. I know, I know. I learned at Fantastic Fest that the festival is so cool that they let me and audience members smoke something in the theater during the premiere of the greatest movie ever rolled. So that was exciting and I guess is going to be allowed to happen again when they show that movie again on Thursday afternoon. Cool.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Yeah. Maybe I shouldn't have movie again on Thursday afternoon. Cool. Maybe I shouldn't have mentioned it on the podcast. I learned while watching Taped that if you inadvertently videotape a police officer committing murder in a foreign country where you don't speak the language
Starting point is 00:18:22 that you are fucked. They should have called the movie Fucked instead of Taped. I didn't see that one. Have you guys seen anything? I know that, you know, as a local, you don't necessarily... I was going to. I was like, I had planned all this thing,
Starting point is 00:18:36 and then this work stuff came up, and I actually have seen very little. I've seen some stuff, but not nearly enough. What did you see? I saw Frankenweenie. Right. And I saw Landau Fall Down. Mm-hmm see? I saw Frankenweenie, and I saw
Starting point is 00:18:45 Lando Fall Down, and I saw some of the events. That's going to be a short next year. Lando Fall Down. Chris Lundberg is directing it, I think. And writing it, he claims. That's it. They're going to have to change it to Stumblecore.
Starting point is 00:19:02 It's the big one. And Joe, you haven't seen anything. they'd have to change it to StumbleCore. It's the big one. And Joe, you haven't seen anything. I haven't. It's been a surprisingly busy week in my life, I guess. In the last several weeks.
Starting point is 00:19:19 You didn't even get a badge issue, right? No, I didn't. But I think that's more just me festivals I find really intimidating well it's just there's so much to do
Starting point is 00:19:31 and the crowds and it's just Joe's got it's kind of I'm actually like an over time guy he's like
Starting point is 00:19:39 can't I just sit in the front not wait in line sit in the front row and hold a microphone during the movie. Can't I just do that?
Starting point is 00:19:47 I, but the thing is, like, as much as I complain and avoid it, every time I go to any sort of festival or anything like that,
Starting point is 00:19:54 I have a great time. Yeah. So, I think I just need to get over it myself and go do it some year. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:01 That would have been, this is, it really is the best, it's the best festival I've ever gone to. Like, fantastic festival. It's the best-a the best... It's the best festival I've ever gone to. Like, fantastic festival. It's the best-a-ble? It's the best-a-ble.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I got a badge for performing at South By this year, and I went to a bunch of comedy stuff. In fact, I saw you at Esther's Follies that year.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Oh, nice. And it was great, man. I saw all the comedy. I saw all of it. And it was fantastic. No films I saw all the comedy. I saw all of it. And it was fantastic. No films, huh? Yeah. Huh.
Starting point is 00:20:29 I go see films during the second weekend of South By when the bands are kicking in. That's when I go see a lot of movies because the badge is still good for movies. And they're slightly lighter attendance so you can actually get into some stuff. But I've been having a blast here at Fantastic Fest. And just one more thing I want to mention. I learned that hosting the Fantastic Debates is an extremely difficult job. But, Owen, you pulled it off. Oh, thanks.
Starting point is 00:20:56 I think most people there were grateful that you were the host. Because for the listeners, the Fantastic Debates, Tim Leake, the man, co-founder of Alamo Drafthouse, and he probably also co-founded Fantastic Fests. But basically the top guy likes to have people go into a boxing ring and debate some sort of topic that has something to do with movies. Right. And then beat the shit out of each other in an actual boxing match. Right. And in the past, Dominic Monaghan and Elijah Wood fought each other. That was supposedly pretty awesome.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Pretty cool, yeah. But this time it sort of went off the rails a little bit. Because Tim Leake was supposed to fight the auteur behind the movie... Miami Connection. Miami Connection, which is an old, crazy movie self-made by this Taekwondo
Starting point is 00:21:52 grandmaster, Y.K. Kim. And acquired by Drafthouse Films. Is that true? They have it now? So now it's going to pop up in places, I assume all over the place. Yeah. As a fun movie to watch because it is a product of the 80s.
Starting point is 00:22:10 Yeah, it's just like out there. And there's probably quite a language barrier as well. Yes. The dialogue is probably very silly. Yes. And the music by Dragon Sound is pretty, it's kind of spectacular in its own way. Like, Dragon Sound is like, everything from the 80s just slammed into, like, a shot. Yeah, and the band played the other night.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Yeah, they did. Over at the Highball. But you had to host the fights, and in the case of that fight between Tim and that guy, that guy didn't really want to fight because he's an older gentleman. Yeah. And Tim Leake really wanted to punch him. Yes. Tim Leake actually, and fair enough, Tim Leake wanted to be punched. He want to fight because he's an older gentleman. Yeah. And Tim Leake really wanted to punch him. Yes. Tim Leake actually, and fair enough, Tim Leake wanted to be punched.
Starting point is 00:22:48 He wants to fight. Yeah, he wants to fight. He's been training now. It's a real fight. He's been doing it now for like a number of years. And every year, like I think the first year, he's like kind of a little drunk. He's like, oh, shit, I got hit a lot. So he's like, he's been taking a few boxing lessons outside of, you know, buying movies
Starting point is 00:23:04 and running a theater and festival. And so, yeah, you know, buying movies and running a theater and festival. And so, yeah, you know, he fought Michelle Rodriguez a couple of years ago. And even with her, she's like, oh, yeah, this is kind of fun. And then, like, he got in there. Yeah, it's no girl fight. Yeah, she got real on him. No girl fight. This is the real shit.
Starting point is 00:23:21 So, yeah, that was weird. I think Tim might be Tyler Durden. He might. He just wants to, like, that was weird. I think Tim might be Tyler Durden. He might. He just wants to, like, feel alive. He accidentally started a cinema club. And then he's like, oh, how can I get fighting into this? Oh, there's a boxing ring next door. Perfect.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Yeah, that is perfect. But I guess this whole facility is going to be rearranged and changed, and the boxing ring is going to be gone. Yeah, almost everything around it is going to be gone. So the whole festival will have a whole new look next year. Yeah. They're going to go ahead with it and do it again next year, same time of year, right? Yes. Fantastic Fest number eight or nine or something?
Starting point is 00:24:00 It'll be nine. But you got off some really good lines throughout the whole evening of a bunch of people crammed into a room watching fake boxing. Hey, there was some real boxing. There really was. Joe Swemberg beat the shit out of Devin. Devin Faraci and then the girls whose names I don't know. Soska. Soska sisters.
Starting point is 00:24:22 Sylvia and Jen Soska. The Soska sisters really went after each other. They really did. Like, people were hitting the face down to the mat. They were not wearing headgear. They were hitting each other, and they were wearing thongs while doing it. It was really anything and everything you could ask.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I think if you go to fantasticfest.com, there's footage of it. I think so. Yeah, so check that out. And just a sidebar, last night I was watching the Emmys and there was an ad for Frankenweenie
Starting point is 00:24:50 and the critic quote that they use in the ad for Frankenweenie is Tim Burton's freshest twerking years. Like, isn't that a serious burn on Tim Burton? To be like, oh, now he's made something good that you should come see.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Yeah, I mean, Dark Shadows was, what, six months ago? It's not like... Yeah, that seems rude to me, to say that. I mean, Freshest, I guess, isn't terribly descriptive, but... Yeah, that was bizarre. It's like saying, don't worry, it doesn't suck like you think it will. And it is, it's very cute. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:31 It's very cute, and again, I, you know, I tolerated the 3D glasses for it. Yeah. The 3D's pretty good on that one, actually. Yeah, but it's like all of them, it's just like, you know, how much depth do you really need in a movie? Right. Movies are already pretty cool looking. Yeah, that's true. You know, so, that's just me, you know, how much depth do you really need in a movie? Right. Movies are already pretty cool looking. Yeah, that's true. You know, so that's just me, though.
Starting point is 00:25:49 You know, out at the Arclight in Los Angeles, whenever you go to a 3D movie there, it's these heavy, like, you know, it's like wearing a helmet. And it just weighs on me and makes me sad. My kids won't see 3D movies that I got. Well, I'm not going to see Frankenweenie Your kids are great They listen to your podcast Your kids are true humanitarians
Starting point is 00:26:11 Does anyone hunger for games? I do Let's play Scott's like yes You just explained how to play to me a few minutes ago but I think I hunger for it I think you'll be able to pick it to me a few minutes ago, but I think I hung her for it. I think you'll be able to pick it up,
Starting point is 00:26:30 and you certainly have some movie knowledge, considering you would not be a master pancaker. You'd be surprised. Is there a reasonable explanation for where the name Master Pancake came from? Not really, no. It came out of a random... It's just one of those things that after a while you can't even explain it anymore.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Yeah, it was a name everybody made it equally. Yeah, we threw it out as a joke at one point and it was like, why not? Yeah, let's call it
Starting point is 00:26:55 that thing we all hate. Yeah. I mean, it's got an alright ring to it, I guess. Yeah, it works. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:00 People just call it pancake, too, after a while. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You guys want to go pancakeing tonight? I got my cake on. How about you?
Starting point is 00:27:10 Peacake. I was really down with it. Oh, no. Tomcat loves pea cake. I mean, before the divorce. Wow, yeah. Yeah, or after. So let's just play a game of Leonard Maltin.
Starting point is 00:27:25 See how you guys do. I've got to fire it up here on my phone. It's good that John Erler isn't here. He would love to be playing this. John Erler is usually like, he's done every show. He's actually in Italy right now. Yeah, because he won on Jeopardy. He's a Jeopardy champion.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Oh, so that was his prize? They made him go there. You have to pay the taxes on it when you win shit like that. They do, but there's enough money. It's still a great deal. Yeah, they take out the taxes before they give you the check, apparently. He was telling me. But anyway, yeah, he's using his winnings.
Starting point is 00:28:00 He's going on a vacation. His first one here. I'll have to try to get him on against Ken Jennings. Because Ken Jennings did the show recently. Really? Turns out no one could beat him, surprisingly. You should have a little Jim.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Or I was going to say, or we can get Jon Hamm in there because he's great at it. But we'll have to wait and see about that because getting Jon Hamm to appear at all is a Herculean task and I've pulled it off a few times. I feel like he's
Starting point is 00:28:34 on every podcast. Yeah. He's busy. He's either making a major motion picture or a TV series or appearing on someone else's podcast. So it's hard for me to get him. But he's a great guy and he's very cooperative once you get him in the room. And he's really good at the games. Man, you know, my big weakness is years that things came out.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Oh, me too. That's why I run the game and not play it, because I'll be like, the year is 1985, and I'll be like, sounds like Titanic. You know, I really did get Titanic wrong by like a whole decade. I've done that too. I'm terrible at that. But I can tell you 10 or 12 people that are in Titanic. There you go.
Starting point is 00:29:20 So everybody remembers different things. But let's go ahead and just for the heck of it let's let Scott pick the first category since he's the most unfamiliar with the game okay I'll give you three choices celebrating a birthday today is the late great Phil
Starting point is 00:29:38 Hartman so the films that had Phil Hartman in them or in tribute of the Fantastic Debates here at Fantastic Fest, movies that either have a debate or boxing in them. Wow! I couldn't think of any that have both. And then also another thing that they do here every year at Fantastic Fest is called the Fantastic Feud,
Starting point is 00:30:07 and that's a big trivia competition that Scott Weinberg, he's like in charge of that, right? So in honor of that, the category is Fantastic Feud, and that's movies that featured family feud host Richard Dawson. it featured family feud host Richard Dawson. So the films of Richard Dawson, a movie that has a debate or boxing in it, or Phil Hartman. The films of Richard Dawson. Let's go for that broad middle one there.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Debate or boxing. Oh, man. All right, this movie has boxing or debate in it, and it is from, sometimes I even read the year wrong. It's from 1983. And I'll give you a few clues about this movie.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Scott Leonard, it's from Leonard Melton's review. He says that this numerous problems plagued production of this predictable movie. And he also says that it was shot in 1981. So we know it was
Starting point is 00:31:12 released in 83. So it shat on itself. It shat on itself for two years. Sounds like me in grad school. Yeah. Two stars from Leonard for this movie. Just two stars. Yeah, so he was not that into it.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And he lists eight names. So, Scott, how many names do you think you can get? From the bottom, okay. Five names. Okay. Wow. That's a wise opening bid. And now we'll go to Joe.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Parsons. Man, I, okay, so. You can either tell them to name it. Yeah. Or go a little bit lower. Five seems like a bold opening bid for that one. It seems... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:32:11 It's a classic debating movie. It's easy, I guess. I'm going to call them on it. Scott made that movie. Okay, you get five names. Okay, to pick from? No, I'll name them. That's the part I forgot to mention
Starting point is 00:32:26 when I was teaching you how to play the game. I will name all five names out loud, and then you have to try to guess. So five people who were in the movie. Yeah. Starting from the bottom. So you're missing the top three. Yeah, but one of these names might give it away for you,
Starting point is 00:32:41 and you might be like, Oh, that's right. That person was in a debate and or boxing movie. Oh, and 1993 was so predictable, but it had that 81 look. Yeah. Yeah. It was kind of dated. I wasn't wearing anything like that two years ago.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Is there a newspaper stand in any show? It's clearly prior to those Winter Olympics. Okay, your five names. And again, I'll tell you that it's from 1983 and it had numerous problems at play production and it's predictable and was shot two years prior. The clues are
Starting point is 00:33:17 kind of designed to not help. And your five names are Fran Ryan, Wilford Brimley, yeah, so it might be Oatmeal the movie. Bruce McGill, Warren Oates, and the great Pam Greer was in this movie that featured boxing or debating. And there might even have been some arguments about boxing in it. So you could argue
Starting point is 00:33:49 about debating and boxing. Like, you shouldn't fight anymore. Oh, I gotta fight one more fight. That's a debate. That's a debate. These are movies people have heard of, right? Well, it gets,
Starting point is 00:34:02 sometimes it gets a little on the obscure side. You know, I count on you guys to be, you know, John Erler would have heard of, right? Well, sometimes it gets a little on the obscure side. I count on you guys to be... John Erler would have heard of this movie. I think he can play the role. So just guess a movie that has one
Starting point is 00:34:15 of those things in it and you might luck out. Cocoon? Wilford Brimley was in Cocoon. I cannot make fun of you for that answer yeah you can that boxing scene in cocoon was pretty amazing you shouldn't be growing old
Starting point is 00:34:34 these cocoons gotta go I'm Steve Guttenberg no keep the cocoons you should still keep coordinating the pool the cocoons. You can still keep chlorinating the pool. Resolved. Cocoons should stay in the pool. Well. So you give up?
Starting point is 00:34:53 Oh, I get to keep name? Huh? Oh, I'm sorry. You said cocoon. That's wrong. That's incorrect. That's incorrect. So Joe gets the point.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Woo-hoo! And now you see how it works. If you force someone else to name it, that usually puts them in a tough spot. And, oh, speaking of tough, the movie's called Tough Enough, and it stars Dennis Quaid, Carleen Watkins, and Stan Shaw. Wow. They were at the top. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:20 Man, I never would have gotten that. But Dennis Quaid is a boxer. You remember it, though, now? I've got it on blu-ray. Well, there you go. That's what happens. The guy that knows the most about it wasn't involved in that round. But Owen does get to start this time.
Starting point is 00:35:40 And since Joe challenged Scott, Joe will be going second. So we start with Owen and move this way. Okay. The order switches each time just to change it up so it's not the same thing happening twice in a row. Oh, yeah. We don't want that to happen. No. We don't want that to happen
Starting point is 00:35:53 to Scott again. I could play in a row. Maybe. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. You got the point. Well, no. I mean, this part is the worst.
Starting point is 00:36:03 He plays it alone. It always ends up like, somebody always ends up challenging the one person who like, you know, clearly doesn't know it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everybody gangs up on that person. That can still happen.
Starting point is 00:36:16 That's not new to me. That's still going to happen to you, Scott. But Owen gets to pick a category between, in honor of Frank and Weenie, Tim Burton movies that have a dog in them. Oh. Probably all of them. Off the top of my head, I can't think of one that doesn't.
Starting point is 00:36:37 And then someone named Atchneljit, S-C-H-N-E-L-J-T, very clever screen name on Twitter, suggested Malmy Maybe. And that's movies where there's a bear. Or more, one or more bears. Malmy Maybe. And then at Scary Mask, which is a great Twitter handle at Scary Mask
Starting point is 00:37:06 suggested Nicholas Page which is Nicholas Cage movies based on comic books. Oh wow. Immediately
Starting point is 00:37:16 narrows it down to three or four I believe. Yeah pretty good. Yeah which one of those would you like to play Owen?
Starting point is 00:37:21 I'm going to go with the Frankenweenie. I'm going to go with Tim Burton films with dogs. Man. That have a dog in them. Yeah. Owen? I'm going to go with the Frankenweenie. I'm going to go with Tim Burton films with dogs. Man. That have a dog in them.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Yeah. Of course, it's going to be like reading the cast. It'll be the same cast for every movie. Oh, that's how it's going. Possibly. We'll see. And then this is also another aspect of the game, Scott. If everybody lights up like they all know what the movie is,
Starting point is 00:37:42 then that's when the negative name thing comes into serious play because then everyone knows what it is. It's obvious, but now you've got to figure out who the cast was and what order they got billing in. The year is 1985. Two and a half stars from Leonard. He says about the movie that it has some real laughs. Real laughs. he says about the movie that it has some real laughs real laughs but then he says
Starting point is 00:38:09 not enough to sustain a feature length film so again the clues aren't very helpful because he could say that about most Tim Burton movies and he lists
Starting point is 00:38:24 ten names how many names do you think you can get it in Owen Owen underscore Edgerton on Twitter
Starting point is 00:38:34 I'm gonna say I can name it zero names see that's this is what happens yeah and I'm gonna say negative one
Starting point is 00:38:42 so I think that's the only can you go further than that Yeah, and I'm going to say negative one. So. And I think that's the only. Can you go further than that on that one? They really are ganging up on you, Scott. I'm going to just blurt out the name. No, that's not how it's done. So now you have to, if you can think of who the top two people were in this movie.
Starting point is 00:39:06 I think I know the movie, but I don't think I know the people. So you have to put it on. I have to call one of their bluffs? It's Joe. You have to call Joe's bluff and say, name that movie, Joe. Name that movie, Joe. Okay. So you've got to name the movie.
Starting point is 00:39:21 The movie is Pee-wee's Big Adventure. And who's the top billed person? And, man, I wonder how they've listed it, but I'm going to go ahead and say Paul Rubens. You think there's other possibilities? It could be Pee-wee Herman. Oh, I see what you're saying. That is a very good point.
Starting point is 00:39:42 But, you know, Leonard is very, you know, he knows who Pee-wee Herman is, or he knows who played him. Yes. So both of those are correct. Yay! And because you're the first person to two points, you win the game. Yes! It's over?
Starting point is 00:39:55 It's over already. We're so fast. Oh, it's a close. Oh, no. I saved them. Woo! That's why you brought me here, Joe. I said negative one.
Starting point is 00:40:06 We brought you to this weird office that's going to be torn down soon. So who's the second Bill person in that movie? I'm curious. Well, what character is in it the most after Pee-wee? Maybe Dottie? Dottie would be, yeah. Who played her? The girl from Powerpuff Girls.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Dottie would be, yeah. Who played her? The girl from Powerpuff Girls. And she was also in, God, I don't know her name, though. She was in that great scene in Fandango where they're shooting the fireworks off in the cemetery. She's like one of those crazy girls that Kevin Costner and Judd Nelson run into and have that fireworks fight in the cemetery. She's in Valley Girl. Oh, that's right.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah, and she's in either Better Off Dead or... And she had a band. I mean, she sings. Yeah, she's a musician. She's cute. Mm-hmm. And her name is Elizabeth Daly. That's her.
Starting point is 00:41:00 Elizabeth Daly. Then Mark Holton, which is the fat bully kid. Okay. And then Diane Salinger, who was, what was her name? Mark? No, no. Simone. Simone.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Simone. Simone. I always get it confused with, yeah, I always get her name confused with, I want to call her Camille, because on his first HBO special, he kept making fun of a woman and Camille in the audience. He used that same voice where he'd go, Camille, Camille. And then the movie came out and it was Simone. Andy!
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah. Yeah, and then the names get crazy like Elvira was in it and James Brolin and Morgan Fairchild. Right. Morgan Fairchild.
Starting point is 00:41:37 But if we'd have gone, if somebody had said two names and only gotten the bottom two names, they would have been Phil Hartman and Jan Hooks.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Ooh. And those would have been great clues, because Jan Hooks is the tour guide at the Alamo. Right. Oh, that's right. That would have been good. And you guys do live in Texas. Yes, there is. By the way.
Starting point is 00:41:56 Thanks. I came all this way to point that out to you guys. Step into my office. I want to tell you guys what state you're in. But, yeah, so that's how the game works. We just, that was, we lost. I want to tell you guys what state you're in. But yeah, so that's how the game works. We just, that was,
Starting point is 00:42:07 we lost. I know. Owen didn't really get to play. It's over before it starts sometimes. Man, I've experienced a lot of life. It's a big moment for you. It's a big moment for you.
Starting point is 00:42:17 It's a big moment for you. It's a big moment for Joe. Yeah, because you also, by doing that, by going negative names and getting it correctly and winning the game,
Starting point is 00:42:28 that qualifies you for the next tournament of championships. Oh, my God. This is the best name Joe's ever given. So now the guy that doesn't have time to go see a movie is going to have to go on a plane and go off to L.A. to talk about movies. I would do that. I really would do that. All right. Well, you're on the
Starting point is 00:42:45 home for that. His only stipulation is that I come. Or you could end up playing sometime when I record an episode here, because I do them out on the road sometimes with an audience, like this Wednesday, for instance. And I should tell the listeners,
Starting point is 00:43:01 in case this plops in time for them to hear it, if you live in Austin and you're intimidated by Fantastic Fest people and all their badges and whatnot, the Highball is free to get into Wednesday afternoon. We'll start 420-ish. But if you get there early, all the people with badges are going to be watching movies. They're not going to get there early because they have badges. They're not going to get there early because they have badges. So you can get into the highball and, you know, just spend the afternoon getting drunk and getting ready for a live Doug Loves Movies. And do you guys have anything coming up that you want to plug?
Starting point is 00:43:35 Sure. Master Pancake has a Twitter. It's at Master Pancake. That's right. We are doing Forrest Gump this month. We'll be doing Forrest Gump this weekend and next weekend. After that, we will be doing... So what, into October? Is that right?
Starting point is 00:43:54 Yeah. Yeah, that's right. This is October. Or as I like to call it, Gumptober. Yes, yes. Doesn't really work. You're starting out in gumptember and moving into gumptober
Starting point is 00:44:06 uh yeah and then next month we'll be doing halloween and night of the living dead one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:44:15 movies night of the living dead those are great ones to do yeah I refuse to do halloween because I like it too much
Starting point is 00:44:21 the movie but there's so much so much material so much there's very little dialogue in that movie. But there's so much... So much material. So much... There's very little dialogue in that movie. Yes. So there's plenty of opportunity to throw in your things. It'll get a little tricky because it's kind of the same throughout in terms of the location
Starting point is 00:44:35 and it's really dark the whole time. Yeah, it is really. It's a really dark movie. But there's a lot of good stuff to be said during that. Yeah, and that's... Consider that Mike Myers doesn't have a lot of good stuff to be said during that. Consider that Michael Myers doesn't have a voice of his own all the opportunities.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Oh my god, you guys are going to say what he's saying when he's stabbing people. Yeah, it's great. Joe also, for a large part of the film, voices the jack-o'-lanterns in the background. Oh, that's fun. So there's sort of a jack-o'-lantern who's there witnessing almost everything that happens. He's like an emcee of the movie. He just that's fun. So there's sort of a jack-o'-lantern who's there witnessing almost everything that happens.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I like that. He's like an MC of the movie. He just appears at the time of time. Everybody having a good time. Yes, okay. Enjoy a bonbon. So yeah, that's fun.
Starting point is 00:45:15 I love it. I should say that my sketch group, Stag Comedy, will be performing in Seattle and Portland on October 5th
Starting point is 00:45:28 no 4th, 5th and 6th you guys love Seattle and Portland it's great, you took the Twilight movie there, that's true and this is a different group that I'm in but we will also be going back, we actually were just here this is a different group, it's really actually inappropriate for you to be plugging that right now
Starting point is 00:45:43 I think right? No, you can plug your individual stuff. I can't recommend it. I can't speak to the quality of your steps. How many people are in it? There's six of us. At least one-sixth of this group is funny. I can tell you that.
Starting point is 00:46:03 It might be... Not me, might be... Was another name you considered Joe and the Dead Weights? And Scott, do you have anything personal you want to plug? We just got Gump going the next two weekends, and I'll be playing with Jean-Pierre and the Zydeco Angels at Hardtails this Thursday. I can't vouch for that.
Starting point is 00:46:27 You won. You're the big winner, so you don't get to do it. Alright, so thanks to you guys for doing this. I appreciate it. I'll be at the Ann Arbor Comedy Showcase on Saturday, October 6th at 420. Arlington Drafthouse in Virginia
Starting point is 00:46:44 on October 7th. Arlington, Virginia. Douglas Movies at the Gramercy in New York City on Monday, October 8th. I've already lined up some amazing guests for that. I know the last one was amazing, and I have to talk myself, so I'm trying to do that. Schedule's permitting. Minneapolis at Acme on October 20th at 420. Zany's in Rosemont, Illinois on Sunday October 21st, and
Starting point is 00:47:08 Phoenix Stand Up Live on Saturday, October 27th, also at 420. I do a lot of shows at 420. I noticed that. Thank you, Master Pancake. And as always, Bart Duarte is a shithead and Judas Iscariot is a shithead.
Starting point is 00:00:00 Now it's time for Doug to watch another talkie. head and Judas Iscariot.

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