Doughboys - Black Angus Steakhouse with Tim Heidecker

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

Tim Heidecker joins the 'boys to talk major chains, pizza, and waiting in line before a review of Black Angus Steakhouse. Plus, another edition of The Michelin Men.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at doughboys.kinshipgoods.comSources for this week's intro:https://archive.org/details/heresbeef00stua/page/10/mode/2uphttps://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/10/business/stuart-anderson-founder-of-black-angus-steakhouse-dies-at-93.htmlhttps://news.google.com/newspapers?id=W4hUAAAAIBAJ&sjid=bY8DAAAAIBAJ&pg=6908%2C6214023https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/2016/06/08/stuart-anderson-founder-black-angus-chain-dies-rancho-mirage/85621740/https://www.blackangus.com/aboutSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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biz allowed him to remodel and refurbish his dingy dive first into a more gentile French restaurant, and then ultimately in 1964 into the concept that would make him a one-man brand, a Western-themed chop shop later imitated by chains like Longhorn Steakhouse. Offering a steak dinner for the value price of $1.95 and leaning into his sleazy past with skimpy costumes for the female waitstaff, a detail long forgotten in today's family-friendly version, Anderson's eponymous stacery was a quick hit with Seattleites and he established satellites by a next-ing and rebranding existing stacouses. In 1972, the vast growing franchise of 10 locations was acquired by

SAGA, and by the time of Marriott's acquisition of SAGA in 1984, it had grown to 121 locations. But in the 90s, the new corporate ownership excised Anderson's name, Sean Parker's style, and as the sit-down dining scene became more competitive, this former cash cow was slowly put out to pasture. Today the franchise that Anderson called the number one restaurant chain of the 1980s has filed for bankruptcy twice, shitting the bulk of its locations down to just 32 rustic roadhouse grills. Anderson died in 2016 at the age of 93, his identity and influence long since smoked out of his smokehouse.

So can this past its prime rib restaurant rally for a posthumous cattle drive back to relevance this week on doe, Black Angus. ["The Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell." the podcast about chain restaurants, I'm Nick Weiger, along with Mike Co-host, Michael Tangelot, the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell. Oh. Huh? How do you know, Doe family? The recent episode with the wonderful Jason Metsukus where in Mitch was greedily gobbling down a Tangelot

inspired this roast. I know that I ate the Tangelot. Yeah, but I'm like Michael Angelo, I guess. Michael Tangelot. Yeah. Like Michael Angelo, I guess. Michael Angelo. Yeah. Like Michael Angelo, the Ninja Turtles of Party Dude, you're a citrus dude.

Citrus power. Or if it's like, I guess the Renaissance painter could be the other thing, slash sculptor. Yeah. We talked about him, oh, we did talk about him recently. Yeah, that's maybe, we were discussing whether he had. How we went to the bathroom, all we was going to do. Painting the cysteine chapel.

Yeah. Because like climbing down that scaffolding would be a whole lot of you. Yeah, you probably a history. Can I and is it appropriate? Of course, unfortunately, yeah, you think there are Italian families or non Italian families who have like Suns named Michael and Angelo Like just split the name up between two of them. Yeah, Michael get in here. Angelo Michael Angelo. Get in here. Michael. Angelo. I think it's a good move. It saves time. It saves me.

It saves me time. It saves me a lot of time. Time saving to set. Also, Michael Angelo's various works involving Madonna and the Christ child gave a obvious parallels to Mitch and his mom on the tumble tangelo. Did you know there are only three original citrus fruits?

The pomello, the citron, and the mandarin and the rest of them are just offshoots of the three. That's interesting. That's from Maximilian. Interesting. And Santa Fe Springs, roastspoonman.com. I was like, you know, murder Brian. He posted something called naked Lego today.

I was like, I read it, I was like, people who just have like Lego figures, and then like, they're dicks out, basically. Are they like sculpt figures and then like their dicks out basically. Are they like sculpted or they like painted on? What do you, like their dicks are out in the picture of their Lego? Why don't they, like they have, like the first one was like a lady with boot, like her boobs were out and then like had a baby out of Lego

in her, are you looking up Nick? No, I'm just like, I'm curious, I'll show you. I'm just curious about. I'm always looking for new things to masturbate you. Because, because of what you're describing, is it molded plastic? Whether you're something grafted onto it,

that's like 3D or is it just like, you know how Lego will sometimes have like a painted on underclose? Oh, man, I'll just show you. Yeah. I mean, people posing nude with Legos. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's people nude with Legos. It's basically people nude with Legos. So here's, here nude with Legos. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's people nude with Legos.

It's basically people nude with Legos. So here's, here's naked Legos. This is like the first one that was posted. It's like a lady with like a, but then like every other kid's down, there's a Lego. Then I was put down like every other kid's down. It's like, guys with Dick's hanging out with Legos. I guys got a hanger,

guys looking pretty good. Yeah, I got you for sure. Do you think you took her a photo? Is it a I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm just like,

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They were like before and then after and their dick was just out the whole thing. Like workout thing. Yeah. It was a bunch of weight. Yeah, not even that much weight. Honestly, it's got a rip. They kind of got like a little more rip. This is embarrassing.

How do you know just who nation is embarrassing? Maybe the most embarrassing one to do. Well, we got a good guess today, Wags. That's the, we don't usually have good guests on the show. That's what's going through, yeah. I'd say up till now, honestly. That's very hurtful towards a lot of people I know. I know, I know.

I know, I know. No, we've had great guests, but this is, we have an especially great guest today. I'm up, hit him with the drop. Let's get all this embarrassing stuff over with. Love in love is what I got. I got G Fuel in my shoe. Love in love is what I got. I got chocolate Fuel in my shoe. Love it. Love it. It's what I got.

I got chocolate on my trousers. Love it. It's what I got. I got cream on my mic. Love it. It's what I got. I got wingsauce on my face. Is this good?

Oh yeah. People love sublime. Bring back Wigar's Neato fact of the week. Chris Finke, who's a good. Oh, it's a very good. Finke is very good at making music. Yeah. Thank you, Finke.

Thank you, Finke. No, October is over. Yeah, we're done with the Neato fact of the of the week I think is in the past. Has in their rear view. Well, I meant I was saying October. Yeah, it's been over two weeks at this point. Where did another episode come out? You've forgotten already? Okay, it's fine.

October continues to be over here. The harvest is ended. The harvest is ended. The harvest is ended. The fillies of one the world series. The fillies of one the world series. The harvest is ended. The now the fruits of our labor, we get to,

we benefit off the fruits of our labor. That's right. Hang up your sides, turn your plowshairs back into swords and hunker down for winter. And celebrate those fillies. Celebrate those fillies. Celebrate our guest, Tim Heidecker is here. I Tim, thanks so much for being here. You're welcome.

I feel like you and I are the guests on your show. Oh, yeah. Does it feel that way? Just the configuration of the orientation. The orientation. We like to, but we kind of like to sandwich our guests. That's how we've always done it. Yeah. I'm just telling you how I feel. Okay. Why do I do a good job during the episode? We're a comedy duo and we're on your show. That's a, it would be a, I don't know what we we called but me fall and

The dude Me fall in the It does feel like if I do a good job you'll invite me over to the couch at the end of the episode Wags, it hasn't happened yet might happen sometime I seem a little but you're in a bigger. It's interesting because it you're in a you're in a two-seater um, couch with we with so we've had first off the seats are like look totally different as people are watching No, I think it looks kind of weird. Yeah, yeah We we're the first thing is gonna happen is that these all these chairs are being replaced

This is a thing that's happened recently. They had us try out new chairs recently Luis and Lee I don't like the new chair. You didn't like the new chair and I said it and they were like we have a second option for you Really? Yeah, it's something else to try. Okay. I don't like the new chairs recently. I don't like the new chairs. You didn't like the new chairs. I said it and they were like, we have a second option for you. Really? Yeah, it's something else to try. Okay, I don't like the new chairs. But the other thing is we've talked about like changing the orientation,

but you're also comfortable over there. I'm comfortable. I like being, I like kind of being a little further away from him, I guess. Yeah, but we'll be equally far over here. I'm gonna have to send you my chiropractor bill I'm doing this bean, bean, bean. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna have to send you my chiropractor bill. I'm doing this thing, and then, and then, and then. Then I think it was a little,

they think it was a little judgmental with what Johnny would invite people over to the couch. It doesn't I feel like a lot of it. Oh yes, very, very, it feels kinda, it feels like a waiting for the seal of approval. Yeah, if you didn't get the invite. I love watching those old tonight shows though.

I was fine. They're great. They're on that Pluto. Pluto, yeah. We love Pluto, Pluto's great. It's so boring. I love how boring. I love how much John Levinstein, you know John Levinstein?

Yeah. He had a tweet of, so what date was that? It was, it doesn't matter when he had it, but he had a clip of clip from Columbo from the 70s and it was him dialing a rotary phone. And he was like, TV used to have all the time in the world. That's how the old Carson feels like. No one's in any rush. Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Sometimes have a conversation and not try to be funny at all. Yeah, which I love, which is great. Like Arsha.

Yeah, I mean, that's kind of like, podcasts have now become, have taken over that kind of energy, which I love. Yeah. Well, it's kind of like a quantity not quality thing, right? It's like people love it when we have a long episode, even if it's not like a good episode, they're just happy that it's like two and a half hours and it's got a normal 90 minutes.

That's true. That's depressing. It is depressing We've never invited anyone over to the house. Kuala got close Come over if I can sit on your lap Tim I'm curious. What are some of your favorite like chain restaurants fast food chain sit down chains I'm a traditionalist. I Don't Hold my nose up to a McDonald's. I think a McDonald's I think frankly, you know, McDonald's is As good as fast food can get wow. I don't I take that back take that back immediately

But at that I mean fast food is such a, I mean, obviously you guys cover a wide range of work. You know what? I think we were on board. I think we agreed with you, problem. I think they're good at really dialing in the flavors and the taste and that like the food is generally fairly fresh tasting.

Right. You know, it might not be fresh at all. Like I would, if I was going down the street and I see a Wendy's, a subway, a Burger King, a McDonald's, I would probably choose McDonald's out of there. Which one would be last of all those? A question. Burger King. I actually, I don't mind if I'm going to go to subway, which I occasionally do, I would go, I'd get a simple tuna six inch tuna.

The tuna is there. Yeah. I'd load it up with veggies and pep banana peppers and olives and I don't mind subway. I don't mind. I like it all. I mean, I would say I'm, for, for burgers lately, we would go to Shake Shack. Oh, sure. And Glendale and I think Shake Shack is very good.

We were, we were saying the other day that a kind of people pushed back against Shake Shack a little bit, but it still is, we had Shack's big chicken last week. Yes. And then compare the Shack's big chicken. We, all were wishing that we had Shake Shack. It's much, much better. SH, a Q Shack's. Oh, it's a, much better. SH-A-Q, Shack. Oh, it's Shack.

Shaky love meals, chain. And that's right next door to the Shack. It's right next door to the Shack. Yeah, I'm really happy to be here. And I generally don't love chicken as a fast food item. I don't love Kentucky Fried Chicken or chicken. I'm not a big chicken sandwich guy. Not even a Popeyes?

Popeyes is okay. But last time I had Popeyes, it gave me like a really bad headache. Oh wow. Really felt weird. And I don't, I mean, I've had McDonald's sometimes where I feel like I feel like I have a flu later in the day, like something like the chills

and I have to lie down. Yeah, that's, I think there is definitely like a body bodily reaction to that food sometimes, but. That's kind of our constant state now. Yeah, I just. I'm not a big, I'm turned off of In and Out lately. I think the In and Out is good, but you know, it's, if I'm going to go somewhere

and eat that kind of food, I want every, every level of it to be right on the money. And of course, their fries are so bad. Yeah, that's kind of a trope want every, every level of it to be right on the money. And of course, their fries are so bad. Yeah. And that's, that's kind of a tropey thing to say. No, but I mean, true. I like their fries. I'm not going to argue with it, though, because like I grew up with them. So it's like, you know, I'm just out of that form. That's probably your thing. I understand that. Yeah. Yeah. If I'm going to go to Burger King, I would say, I would, that's an example of a chicken sandwich. I do like, which is their sort of American

chicken sandwich. Yeah, the Lomboy. Oh, yeah. And their onion rings are pretty good. I know it's pretty good. And now they do actually a mix of onion ring and fries. That's their new thing. Oh, I didn't know that. You can do both. They tried the chakink, which was their take on the Popeye slash Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich. And I also just kind of died. I don't need it. I don't need that. I don't need their symbolacrum of that. I just I'm fine with a long boy. Their long boy is good. I had that long boy in. I don't need that. I don't need that. I don't need their similar acronym of that. I'm fine with a long boy. They're long boys good. I had that long boy in, I was traveling, doing a tour over in Europe.

Wow. And there was, I always think that that I have a joke about Burger King like should just kind of wrap it up, you know, and be like, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna wind things down. Right? There's too much going on out there.

Like, we don't need to be a company anymore. We're gonna sell everything liquidate because everyone else is doing such a great job. We're gonna get out. Thank you for all your, like, who cares? Yeah. But if you go overseas, Burger King's killing it. Yeah, how?

They're like in, they're everywhere. In, I think it was in Amsterdam or in Sweden, somewhere where I got the long boy at the airport. It was fantastic. Yeah, we've kind of been on a roller coaster with Burger King and lately, we've been saying BK is back. I feel like mid quarantine to late quarantine, they kind of started to get their shit together

and I had a little bit more consistent. I tell you that Mike has got a bag in his long boy chicken sandwich. A bag? He fit into it and there was a blue bag inside. Inside a little bag? Like a blue little, I think it was like a part of like, I think when they were like shredding, you know, like in the package.

On the factory, like a part of the packaging went into the actual chicken cutlet part of the sandwich. When you first said this and I know this is impossible, but like instantly I thought like, you met a smaller Burger King bag inside the chicken sandwich. So that would be false scenario. Yeah, but no, it was a little blue bag within the chicken. That's terrifying.

That's disgusting, because that feels like medical waste. Yeah, yeah. When I was a kid, we still think it's back. It's still a kid that felt like Burger King was slightly more, it was a little classier, right? That's what I, slightly a little classier than McDonald's. Yeah, my dad would be like,

I mean, this was wrong, but he'd be like, let's take you to Burger King, it's healthier, or like it's like flame grilled, we had the nice metal ash trays in the smoking show. And it did, like you could get like the apple pie. It did seem like it was like more, Wendy says, when he said,

yeah, I feel like home style. It feels like it's a little bit more. Oh, yeah, it's home air, fresh ingredients. But now it feels like it's truck stop territory. Yeah, but. So you would do that over, you knew that last subway before it basically. Yeah, what if Jared what if Jared was if you drove by you saw Jared in Subway?

Um, I would definitely stop to take a picture. Yeah. I got McDonald's subway burger king Wendy's. Uh, I'm not a big. I don't. Wendy's has gotten real. I, I, I like, I love Wendy's, but Wendy's has gotten really inconsistent. It's, I feel like all my experiences in recent memory are hidden myths. Wendy's has, they changed their fries, which we talked about.

Is this what you do on every episode? Like how could this possibly be, how could you have not gone through this exact, like, have we actually, is this the, I mean, the short, could we match up an episode that lines, like you could sink it up and sort of like sounds you could sink it up and it sort of like sounds You could put it in the left and right speaker Well wait, but I love it so I'm happy to talk about it But I'm worried people are gonna be furious We want to hear your hometown, your old, what you see.

Yeah, that's a no, but I was gonna say something else. I can't remember. Wendy's. Wendy's. No, this, where, yeah, well, I think the thing that's interesting, you want, the ideal McDonald's, the ideal like vision of McDonald's is that you are getting the exact same experience wherever you go, right, but that is not the case.

You're gonna, but it's because you brought up inconsistency. They probably have less inconsistency, but I definitely had better McDonald's experience. For sure. Of course, like better salt levels on the fries. I mean, that's pretty much it. Like, are they salting their fries? Yes. The hot fresh fries, I think is a big part of your McDonald experience. There was one

across from the PCB sunset, which is now closed, which we've done on it. We didn't do on the show, but we went there for, we did it McDonald's month. So we almost did McDonald's for this. We've never reviewed McDonald's official. That's right. But that's going to be the last episode, which you're welcome to come back on. I if, if, uh, if this, I mean, I will have to repeat myself quite a bit. Uh, I don't know how many more takes I have on McDonald's. Probably can stretch something out, but there's good. There's, there's, there's a, in Quincy, we have a good McDonald's and a one that's not as good. And then in LA, it's the same thing. The one across from Jay's bar, I like quite a bit. Yeah, so the one you just mentioned, which is now shuttered.

And I went by and I was like, kind of sad that it's like closed. And I think it's maybe bulldozed at this point. Oh, what they're building there, probably fucking condos. But it's like, it wasn't a great McDonald's, but it was like, it was locationally, it was so clutch to have it there. Cause there were just times you needed, that was like the best option in the area.

We went in there and it was crazy. It was oftentimes crazy. The bathroom was apocalyptic. Yeah. Like I had to use that bathroom a number of times and that was always a nightmare. Me too. Yeah. But the McDonald's itself was, you know, hitting miss, but when I was hitting it was great to have it. If I could talk quickly, but because we brought it, I saw you a few weeks ago, we were talking McDonald, believe it or not, we were talking, we were having very similar conversation just out in the wild. We're gonna be podcasting, we're gonna be at a bar, at a friend's party, and you were telling me

what you order at McDonald's, and you had mentioned this spicy chicken sandwich. So that was in my head like a few days later and I stopped in and got that sandwich, and I have to tell you, I was not, I was very disappointed in it. It's, I get that. It's because it's a mix, it's the spicy mick chicken.

It's not, it's not a, the mick chicken is just a ton of mayo and lettuce. And that is to me, that's like the extra sandwich I get. Cause I get, I get a big Mac meal and then I get the extra, you do two things. Yeah, I'll get that. Just a side sandwich meal and then I get the extra, you do two things. Yeah, I'll get a side sandwich. Yeah, it's, yeah.

You got it. I, my, my preferred order McDonald's would be a big Mac or a fish fillet which I love. I really like a fish fillet. Yeah, the fish delight. The fish delight. Is that what it's called? It's a trumps of it. Oh, this is the way I thought.

I got it. It's your favorite McDonald's item, the fish delight. You see that? Does he eat the fishiquet of light? Apparently. Yeah, yeah. And then the McNuggets are terrific, they're fantastic. So that's it.

That's all I would, I don't do anything else there. Not a quarter pounder, not a double cheeseburger. No, no, no, no, what she's doing. We've talked, we've talked about this plenty of times, which say what you want about Trump, we both support him. But we said this on the podcast is one when people try to, when he bought McDonald's for the college kids and we'll try to be like,

oh, that's it and we were like, that is great. That's like, that's the great move. That was, it was, No, that's, those are just like liberals who do not understand his appeal, which is that he is like a working class person's idea of a rich person. If I was a fucking billionaire, a multi-millionaire, I would just buy McDonald's all the time and

I'd buy McDonald's for everyone. I had my own plate and EKFC on it. I had a, well I went to a birthday party for a friend of mine who was a small gathering, but she was like, what I want for my birthday is McDonald's and Taco Bell. Wow. And like get it catered, you know, whatever, just pick up a whole mess of this stuff. And that's, and everybody, everybody was like so happy to just, you know, and I believe me, I, I don't eat, I eat this stuff maybe like once a month, which some people might

think is a lot, but I don't think it's a good thing to eat this food as much as a lot of people eat it. I don't know. But I know, I know. I'm just saying people listening, and it's true. I don't, but I don't stick my nose up to it either. Because I'm not gonna have to do it. It's bad as people say.

And there's also ethical problems with these companies, but there's ethical problems with every company. A fucking fine dining restaurant always have ethical concerns. It's just like there's always, you know, people are underpaid and overworked. Not a doubleist, but also we, here's a term that you'll hate, because I could almost, I would almost continue, I hate saying it, but like a foodie, you love, I've seen, I won't say, I won't say where I've seen you at like a, maybe we can just believe this, but I saw you at, um, uh, Vient Nudel bar back when it was like first started. Yeah.

And, uh, I'm absolutely not a foodie though. I've only seen you at good, and then we talked about a good restaurant the other day, where, that I message you about the, the Lebanese. Oh, either. I've only seen you a good, and then we talked about a good restaurant the other day. Where? That I message you about the Lebanese. Oh, yes. Yeah, that's scaffs. Yeah, yeah. And of course, I, well, I think my thing is, I like good food.

There's a few plate like, Viet Nudelbar in Atwater Village is somewhere I've been going for, I used to live around there. I've been going there for 15 years. I know that people there, it's consistent. I know what I'm getting. Sure. Same with scaffs. I've been going there for 10 years consistent. I know what I'm getting.

Same with scaffs. I've been going there for 10 years. It's really good Lebanese food. So I like good food, but I don't really, I don't seek it out. I don't like to think about where I'm gonna go eat. Like I told you on my show, my priorities are for food. For going out to dinner is parking.

Yeah. Yes. Seating situation. Like there's no, I don't wanna wait in the line. If I see somebody waiting in a line, I, no, I'll go somewhere else. What was it? It was shit.

This was the episode of Office Hours that Mitch would guess it on, which I watch, which was very, very funny. Yeah. But yeah, you food was like fourth. You know, hierarchy. It was gonna be good or bad. I mean, food's gonna be fine.

I'll know it to order if it doesn't look great. If it's not great, who cares? I don't wanna get sick from the food. Right. But I have a hard time like having my mind blown by food any year. Sure. I mean, I've just, I have in my life

eaten at very great restaurants. You know, my partner in a lot of the comedy I do, Eric, it really knows about food and he cares about and loves it. And I've no disrespect, I don't judge him for that. I don't judge people that are into it. It's just for me, the difference, like I've been to that place,

Alenia in Chicago, in the foam and everything. And I was like trying to, I was being nice about it, but I'm like, that place, Elenia in Chicago, your foam and everything. And I was like trying to, I was being nice about it, but I'm like, this is, yeah, it's very good. Yeah, very good. Right, this tastes good too. You know, like I, and I would be happy to have, like I would have the same experience with peanut M&Ms from my hotel mini bar.

Because those things really good too. Yeah, that was okay. Those tastes great. Is that your favorite M&M variety? Absolutely. I'm going through kind of an addiction problem with them. I'm really. You had them on the show.

Yeah. I have to start not buying them because I could sit it. I feel like they're not having any effect on me. But they're always like, they're not, it's not even air. Right. That was, I didn't like them as a kid. When I was a child, I didn't like peanut M&Ms

and then as I got older, they're now my favorite. What did you like, you like playing M&Ms? I liked playing M&Ms. Wow, that's wild. But it's a kid, it's a little kid. It's a kid, yeah, of course. My dad loved peanut M&Ms, I did not, I was not a fan. I'm wondering, I'm trying to remember if it took me some time to get on board loved peanut M&M's. I did not. I was not a fan.

I'm wondering, I'm trying to remember if it took me some time to get on board with peanut M&M's as well. I mean, like, I, I, they're clearly, I think, the best one, but I do like the pretzel M&M's. I do like the, uh, I like peanut butter M&M's. I like peanut butter M&M's. And then what's the, there's, there's like a, I can't remember the name. I'm talking candy M&M's. I don't like.

I can't remember the ones that have like a rice crunch to them. Oh, right. I think they are crispy kind of. Based on a crust, Nestle crunch kind of. Yeah, those are fun. Yeah, those are pretty good. Also, we talked about how iminems are just bad unless you mix it into ice cream or whatever.

But it also got, iminems are worse than they used to be, right? Don't they take the words? I think the quality's a little bit decline. Really? I think so. Maybe a little bit. I don't know.

I mean, I think, I think, I think, it's hard to think to test. I think Mars chocolate has gotten worse. I think it tastes more like a party. That's what it was with our buddy Mono. We tasted a bunch of Halloween candy for our Halloween episode and we were kind of like, has this gotten a little bit worse?

So I'm just saying something that just happened to us like three weeks ago. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, talking just generally about high floor low sea low foods. Yeah, good way to put it.

And so, and one you landed on was chicken tenders or tenders, which I think are like, that's a great call because like for me, it's like, what is the best tender? Yeah. Like how, how much better is it than like a, you know, a fucking frozen tender you get from Costco? You did get in trouble. I got texts from people that were about the pizza.

About the pizza they were mad about. Right. Which I mean, don't get mad about it. No, no, I mean, I'm not mad about it. I hope those people aren't actually mad. Could they be mad? Are they actually mad? Some of our listeners probably are mad,

but they get mad about it. But you got texts from people we both know? No, no, no, I got texts from friends of that head watch that were like, that's crazy. There's good, like, yeah. Well, we're of that saying, we say this all the time, but like, there's like pizza and sex, even when it's bad,

it's good and both of us are like, that's not true. That's in his head. That's, pizza can be horrible. That's part Liner head from Charna Halpern's book, Truth in Comedy, which is kind of an improv foundational text, which says that pizza is like sex is like the herald, even when it's bad, it's good.

I was like, well, even a good meal. I was like, the power thing. The power part we agree with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm a born. How porn is our favorite commute? By the way, but. I think it's more on the on the high side,

where it's like the best pizza I don't think is never, the mode, like, never, it never blows my mind. Maybe that's more where I'm at, or it's just like, yeah, the best, you're it never blows my mind. And maybe that's more what I'm at. Or it's just like, yeah, the best, you're not gonna believe this pizza. So if somebody said like this pizza is so fucking great. I would have a bite and I'd be like, yeah, it's fucking, it's pizza.

It's as good as pizza is gonna be. And I love pizza. So I'm grateful for good pizza. But it's, it's not like it's not my favorite, I mean but it's not my favorite food. Right. And it works in the middle nicely. Like a pepperoni pizza from Domino's, I think, is not that far away from what you would consider mind-blowing pizza.

I think I agreed with you on the show, but that you're worried about the blowback that's coming. Well, now I'm on my home court, and I'm slightly, I have a little more confidence. Yeah, yeah, because you've folded on that. You're like, you're like, yeah, yeah, I guess so good. What are you saying, boss? I get it. I don't like to be that kind.

I'm like, I don't, I'm not crazy about being confrontational. You have somebody else's. I love, I love Domino's pizza, but I also, when it is the best pizza, I, I, I will agree with you that, as far as food is the number one for me, it's not the fourth,

but parking is number two. And then lines, if there's lines, and that's like a no, I don't even wanna wait. These are both a huge bullet points in favor of this week's chain. I mean, great parking. Yeah.

Great parking, no wait. Tom Sharpling said something to me. He's been on the show, right? Yes. You said something really funny to me privately. I think it's fair to say, but we're joking about the line to get into the in and out drive through.

Have you ever been in the like, I was trying to to get it blocks by one road that I try to get it get like in all times a day. And he was like, can you imagine your dad as a kid like waiting in a drive through line to go get cheeseburgers? No way. Would my parents ever get their car in a position to sit there for more than two minutes on a drive-through? No, we're going to the grocery store and buying frozen patties and putting them in a frying

pan and making cheeseburgers. So that whole world of waiting for, yeah, but sorry. Oh, that's a great, that is a good point. Which they do, I'll give you credit, because you said this before, I always call out the line. Yeah. They do move that line pretty quickly. Which pretty fast. They do. Oh, but it looks, but it looks,

it's done, it is a pain in the ass. I've done it, I've done it, and it's like, it is a good 20 minutes sometimes. Yeah, yeah. So that's too long. Yeah, raising canes is similar, I feel like is the new fangled one that we're all that, you know, they all have these lines that are

snaking out into the road. Yeah, when the cones are in the street, that is annoying. And that one can take a while. I've waited over an hour at this deltaco before. I wonder what the longest time I've waited that hour for deltaco. Really?

Yeah, 100%. Over an hour? Yeah, I mean, it was like 2 a.m. That's a big, but that's like, you're in majorly sunk cost fallacy, territory, where you're like, how in major league sunk cost fallacy territory. Where are you like how long were you waiting when you were like, ah, if I should just leave? You can get the same shit at 7 11.

Yeah. More or less. I mean, well, if you're specifically craving Del Taco, I do understand. I get that. And I'm not anti del Taco. Yeah. I like the hard shell ground beef tacos with the, with the fries, the, uh,

particular Del Taco, yeah. Yeah, it's a very satisfying experience, especially at two in the morning. I get that. There's two things, it's like once I waited like 30 minutes, I was like, I'm close, but then also you get to see them which did.

Sure, so it's hard to even leave at that point once you're there, but I've definitely, I think the last time I went there was like an hour and 15, I told you about my last chaotic experience. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah, a lady was just like, oh, I don't need to know. I believe you was insane.

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he sold the chain to this company called SAGA. And then SAGA was acquired by Mary Ott. SAGA. Not SAGA. Not SAGA, not the Sonic Hedgehog company. SAGA, like a SAGA. Like a SAGA, like a Sonic Hedgehog company. Saga, like a saga, like a... Saga with Saga. Saga after.

Yeah. Some of the actors union, they sold it to Maryott, and then Maryott was like, we're gonna fucking Sean Parker, the name Stuart Anderson out of here. Now it's just Black Angus, so that's been their branding since like the 90s. Who the hell was Stuart Anderson then as my... He was an interesting, I talk about him in my intro, which people who've watched this or listening to this have heard at this point, but he's like an eccentric like Seattle guy.

He used to own like a fucking like dive bar that was frequented by low lives. And then he took the money from that and converted it eventually into a Western themed steakhouse. But his autobiography, here's the name of his memoir, which I really like, here's the beef my story of beef It's a great title. Yes, great So they had over a hundred restaurants the parent company went bankrupt twice

Now is just 32 locations in five Western states. It feels like it's it's slowly dying out on the way out Yeah, we're looking at we were looking at locations and there's there is one one, was it was Washington, it was Washington state. Washington state, yeah, it's Arizona, California, Hawaii, New Mexico, and Washington state. That's those, and it started in Washington state, so. It feels on its way, it feels like it's on its way out. Even though this one was, I feel like fairly bustling for a Thursday night.

I thought it was, I thought there was a lot, yeah. It's got that prime spot right off the, the five. Yeah, it's right. And parking, glory. Park the, uh, the five. Yeah, it's right. And parking, Glow, parking, Glow, right there. I like, no, no, uh, you know, a lot of times in, in LA, you go into parking lots that have

several levels. So you end up going up and looking fast. Yeah, yeah. And everything. This is like, you're in the Midwest or you're like in suburbs, you just pull in and there's, there's spots. It's great. I, I, I, the huge gonna do the best thing about it.

Well, I know this from the other black angus I've been to and we've been to the Torrance one a number of times. I went to the Lakewood one a bunch growing up in my hometown and they all have yeah, huge surface lots with ample parking. This is right near my dentist, this black angus. I didn't tell you guys that last one. No, this is kept from us.

That doctor Tunzee is right up the street. Wow. I was wondering what the relative proximity of Juventus was to where we were meeting. And I would have loved to have known. But I'll tell you this, parking at Toonsy's is not great. And parking at Islands right around the way. Oh, yeah.

That's what not. That's a pain in the ass. There's the BJ's that's right next to it, which is a decent lot. But yeah, the Islands is not far, and then islands you have to park in a structure. It is. It's often it's all a little land there. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I just want to say the reason we, I mean, can I say why we chose of 100% yeah. Yeah. Uh, I was given a list. I don't know this public knowledge. Yeah. Uh, to choose. And I And I, there was a lot of good options, but

um, the last tour, the tour before the last tour that Eric and I did, we had a black angus joke in our set that was very, uh, I mean, I'll just tell, I don't remember what the setup was, but it was, it was black anus that we then dropped the G to bring in the back, Angus to it. So if you look at the word, you take the G out that becomes anus. So every time you was drive by on the five, you drive by black, Angus, the first thing you I see is anus. Black anus. So naturally you were like, I want to eat there.

I want to eat that egg. We went to the Burbank location as I mentioned. Yeah, it has this rustic western decor for people who've never been there. That extends to the exterior. It kind of feels like a distressed look. Very much so. Very much so. It's very much so. Yeah, which I wondered if it was intense or a gnarly.

No, it was very intense. Yeah, but dirty, like kind of dirty, like another, like, if did you go to the bathroom? I did not. No, I should have. I did, yeah. It was a little like, a little grungey. Yeah, a little grungey.

It wasn't like disgusting, but it was. A little frozen in time, perhaps, hasn't been updated in a while. This is kind of the, I mean like big tall, I was like, oh, there's big tall boosts, but then our table is a little crowded and then you think you're gonna get nice big menus and they're like paper menus.

They used to be bigger menus. They used to be like a, like a, oh, like a nice restaurant menu that had some hats to it. That looks big. I like that. They used to be like that, but they've upside them a little bit. Yeah. I look kind of holding up like the 10 commandments here. Yeah, they used to be big boys and they've scrunched them up.

This was just to give you a picture. I don't think this was accurate, but on the Google, not the Yelp, but in the Google reviews, the one I saw as I was looking plotting my route, it said, it's a cross between a fine dining experience and a coffee shop, which I didn't really get that. I didn't get that, but it's a funny thing to think about. And it was like seen as a positive. But it did have kind of a, it had a bar with big TV where you people were watching the game and stuff. Yeah.

There was that side and then there was sort of this, the dining room area. It's a little bit more, I mean, it's like a steakhouse. Right, yeah. But it's a little bit more casual mean, it's like a steakhouse. Right, yeah. But it's a little bit more casual, like you could go in with in a t-shirt and shorts, and you wouldn't feel a lot of place. In fact, that's a lot of people

leading there, including me or like that. I think that you, yeah, I think you could dress the worst you could, and find there. I don't, I feel like there's no. I don't know what level this always was. It seemed like maybe it was a... I used to feel, I'm just, I mean, go off of memory here. And most of my visits were as a kid,

but it was like, I remember feeling a little bit nicer. That might have just been a kid brain perceiving like a grown-up restaurant in this way, yeah. But you mentioned the big booths, which was what I told Natalie, we're going to Black Angus. The first thing she said was, enjoy the big booths. And then I got back and she was like, how are the big booths? which was the, I told Natalie we're going to Black Angus, the first thing she said was enjoy the big booths. And then I got back and she was like, how are the big booths?

And here's the thing, Mitch, and I think you're spot on in this. They are big in the way that like, and then be a center is big. They are tall, but they're also like, you know, pretty compact, kind of lean. And like, I felt pretty scrunched up in there. I felt like a jack booths.

Morse, I want like a big jack booths. Yes, right, right, right, right, right. Like a big baby Davis, like a guy who's like, a little bit girth, I want to like a big shack like a big yes, right, right? Right, right big baby Davis like a guy who's like a little bit girth was more like a specific three-seater booth Yeah, I think you'd get more than three in that booth. It'd be tough. Yeah, no, no, and they were very tall I was trying to find you guys for I was not Yeah, I was it's very you can be very private in the booth It was hard to see over some of the it was hard to see over some of the, it was hard to see over some of the booths. I feel.

Yeah, yeah, but I kind of like that. I like that it feels a little bit private, but I wish it had a little bit more space. Yeah. You know, again, this is probably a thing that it was probably built in the 70s when everyone was a lot skinnier. I don't know. I think, I, it's interesting. You're right.

It would be, it would have been nicer to feel the rest of the restaurant, maybe. Yeah. The proximity to the tunes, he's a plus. I missed that. It's my doctor tune and my dentist. Oh, that's his name. Yeah, doctor tunes, yeah. He's a true tune.

He's an actual cartoon. He's not a Roger Abbott scenario. He's not afraid of dip. He's not pulling out like a big drill. He's a a Roger Robert scenario. He's not the afraid of dip. He's not pulling out like a big drill. And you know, he's a very normal. He's an actual wolf. He's a very nice man. And very close to this black angus, the right street.

I had driven by, I've noticed that place forever. Especially just going to the movie theater there. The AMC 16. Had you ever eaten there? I never, I never ate it. And this was your first visit as well. Okay, got it. You knew how back there.

I've been there a bunch of times. When it was Peter, what is his name? Peter, Stuart Anderson, Stuyker. Yeah. Sort of like, I think there was a restaurant chain called Ponderosa, maybe? Okay. Oh yeah.

Is that Sringer Bell? Yeah, I think that's also a steakhouse. Ponderosa steakhouse, yeah. Yeah. I've never been. It's definitely up from like, Sizzler. Yeah, it's up up from Sizzler. They got table service.

Mm-hmm. We were just talking about Omorosa. Oh yeah, one of the, uh, she was in the, worked in the White House. You were in the White House advisor. You were in the White House. Senior official. Senior White House official. Right, Omorosa. Om I said. Senior official. Senior White House official.

Right, Omarosa. Omarosa. We were wondering what happened to her. What is she been up to? She got burned. She got like, she got transformed by Trump. Yeah.

Wait, really? Well, I think she got fired. I don't remember the story. She was one of his many geniuses that he put in. That didn't work out, I guess. Which is funny because she was on the Apprentice and she did get fired on it.

She did get double fired by Trump. That's gonna be wild. Anyways, I hope she's well. I had never been in there before and I had never, I had heard of black angus. I don't even know why, because there wasn't one in Massachusetts. Well, it has been referenced in pop culture a bunch.

The Simpsons had a black angus joke. I remember, like, resonating with me as a kid because he was like, I think the joke is, oh, it's the, they think the rapture's gonna happen. Drop the G. It's drop the G. You can steal it. Season one, Simpsons.

They were a little looser. It was, no, it's, they think the rapture is going to happen. I can't remember what, if there's the, the comment episode or what, but it's like they think the world is going to end. And so they're all dressed up like nice. And Bart says like, why are we dressed up nice? Mama, we're going to black angus.

And and March goes, I guess you could say we're going to the best steak house in the universe. And Bart says so we're not going to black. Yeah. So I think it's kind of like been, you know, in the National Zite guys a little more. That speaks more to the Simpsons writers living in Burbank than you. Yes, yeah. I mean,

there's specifically talking about that black guy who's wanting to. Yeah, honestly. And that's a joke about blacking is being bad, what, 30 years ago, almost basically. Yeah, it would have been the 90s. Yeah. So our server was Jesse who I will say,

great service, heart and hustle. I really enjoyed Jesse's table service. It said it was his first day back. He kept reminding us of that, which was, and this ties into a thing. That's where. That was a great question. That was me too, I didn't know back.

And I also put on administrative leave. Yeah. I assumed't know back. And I asked you, And you put on administrative leave? I assumed it was a lengthy vacation or something or some personal leave, but it seemed like it had been. It seemed to excuse a lot of things. Yeah. Yeah. There was some stuff where I was like, what's the secret menu?

That's the main thing. First day back. Oh, answer for you. I guess you're sure. First day back. The first day back blues. I don't know, I don't know what that means.

But it does say on the menu, it says, ask about our secret menu. And then he seems, my first day back, what else do you mean? I don't know. Not only is that excuse for everything in my life. He not only didn't know, it's honestly, it's put a back on me.

He was like, what is this? And I was like, I don't know, I don't have nothing for you. Well, not only did he not know what was on the secret menu, he didn't seem to be aware of the existence of a secret menu, which was fascinating. He said, he literally said, you tell me. Didn't he?

He was like, well, you tell him. And I was like, I don't know. I have. First day back, he's been 25 years. Ha, ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha, ha. He went, he was very nice. Very attentive.

Very attentive. He checked with us a few times, and I also looked at him, and I was like, this guy must be working like multiple tables, seven tables. Oh, yeah. He was sweating. I was like, he's running, or he seems like this man is running everywhere.

Yeah, I see. He seemed overworked. So let's start with beverages. Raspberry Strawberry Lemonade I got. I mean, this was just a big mug of sugar I did like it overall, but man it was punishingly sweet. I think the children's order. It was for kids Yeah, definitely yeah, there was a big month, but a huge much huge mug was a comically large mug. Yeah It's no child should have

It was gigantic. I thought it had to have been a booze drink because I was like, oh, that's like a big comical booze drink. But no, it's all strawberry lemonade. I do appreciate that they have some non-alcoholic options. They have like a half dozen or so that aren't just like either, like we can make you a cocktail without the booze or we have fountain drinks. They had some curated, like, hey, here's some specialty lemonade's a nice tea.

That was nice. And you got a my tie. How'd that sit with you? It was all right. It wasn't bad. It was like, you know, I'm going to have a drink. I'm going we have fountain drinks. They had some curated, like, hey, here's some specialty lemonade's a nice tea. That was nice. And you got a my tie. How'd that sit with you?

It was all right. It wasn't bad. It was a very chain restaurant my tie, which was orange juice was one of the ingredients. Sure. But it was not, it was the worst version of that I've ever had. I think they're a big whiskey cocktails. I think that's kind of the stuff they push.

They're moonshine. Moonsh almost got you were tempted to hit that. I was tempted then there was a hundred proof And I said is this real and then I said yes, yeah, and which I don't know why I thought yeah You'd be fitting the lie on the menu. Yeah, but it was it was actually 90 proof I mean, I know that they serve I guess 100 proof isn't that, 150. 151, they don't do anymore. But the moon shine just didn't sound good to me. And then I just had one cocktail, and then I was done. Yeah, I had a blue moon, a blue moon beer,

which was, I didn't wanna bring this up, but it was warm and a little flat. Oh, what a common figure, why? I mean, it was just a bad tap, it was a bad tap. I don't know, not, yeah I mean it was just that a bad tap was on tap. I don't know Not yeah, but it was okay It wasn't exactly refreshing Just one of those and that was it. It's all I had

Yeah, we all we all just had the one drink. It sucks. Yeah, that's a bummer. We got the okay Let's start with some apps. We had the sweet molasses bread which is complimentary and that was a big thing I remember a lot of fun. It's just a brown bread. It's like the cheesecake factory brown bread. I think cheesecake factory's a little bit better, but it's fun to tear apart. Not keeping your kegs in a fridge, right?

Is what it has to be. Oh, let's move on. Don't you're wallowing on this now. I'm pissed off. Yeah. I'm sure Taffer would diagnose it. He'd figure it out. It would be like the, yeah, it would be like the taps.

Honestly, it's probably the taps have been closed. I think tunes, you could throw it off. I'd be brought tunes, you down. Yeah. You're a medical man. Take a look at that. The brown bread was, I liked the brown bread. Yeah.

It's great. It's a lot of fun. And the butter, you know what I appreciate at restaurants is you don't always get is, and you always have, I always have this problem, usually at diners, is cold butter and this was nice melt like warm butter so you could easily spread. Yeah, very spreadable.

You know where I think I keep it? Next to the cake. Ah! Ah! Ah! And I'll say this, double bubble is passed because Halloween is over. Right.

But double butter was in full effect because they gave us two butter. And it's a butter. Yeah. Double. Sorry. We they consult a doctor to and see on that. How many butter should we get? Uh, yeah, we had double, we had double butter, uh, toil and trouble.

And they were, they were, they were good. I, yeah, I like having, here's the, I'm at least start off pretty good. This is a dip in, this is a dip in sauce slash spread issue. You run into a lot is aside from it being like, hey, this is the wrong temperature. You don't get enough. Yeah.

Here you get too much, like it's like a lit, like we had a little bit of butter left over and that's what I want. I want to be able to be a little bit, you know, no butter scarcity on the table. Exactly 100%. We also got the wagon wheel sampler platter. This is their fried zucchini. They're totally buffalo chicken tenders,

low to potato skins and shrimp. Why wagon wheel? There's nothing wagon wheel about it. But I can remember. I don't know. It means there might have been a, I think there was, there might have been a wagon wheel in there somewhere.

Yeah. I don't know. there might have been a wagon wheel in there somewhere. Yeah. I don't know, there's those shape of a wheel. There's just like frozen fried food plopped on a tray. Now I want to look at the pic to see if it was like, at least a circular bike. I don't think it was. No, I think it was just a regular bike. No, no, it was more a whole.

It was a tray. It was a tray. It was a regular tray. Yeah, they had nothing wheely about that. That wagon's going nowhere. Um that was a look. I didn't. That's a wheel. That's a wheel. It's a rectangle, sir. which is that put it on under the wagon. See what happens. Yeah. Really? Shall we look like a wheel? Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah's, it's pretty solid. I like that. You mentioned that it was nice and chilled. Which, certainly loved it.

Yes, I love it. Yes, for the extra piece of the shrimp. No one else wanted it. It was just sitting there in the cocktail sauce. Were there four shrimp? There were four, no shrimp. And yeah, I was fine with that. Yeah.

I think, I guess what I want to ask you is what possessed you after? We said, yeah, take the extra shrimp to then not ask and take the extra fossil. He's right, there was an extra, it was a first off they'd been cut in half. But it was sitting there for a while. They'd been cut in half, there were three of them, been sitting there for a while, was getting to room temp.

So I kind of did the math of like, everyone's probably had like two halves. Were you possessed by some sort of gluttony archangel? I'm just trying to think of what you're gonna have. If I just wanted you to put a head in. If you'd wanted, you could've had it. It's just a man possessed. I took the shrimp and I'm going to take the last bump little thing without saying a word to the two guests.

Yeah, the two guests. I think the wagon wheels are free for all. I think as much as you can get, not worry about it. That's fair. Yeah, not be too worried about equal distribution. If you'd wanted it, because you mentioned this before, I'd like, like, stab you. If you'd wanted it, I would have given it to you.

I gave you a little shit. I actually did not want it. I was, I, I, I don't know if I was like full and not really hungry last night or if the food's bad. I think it was, I don't know, it was a combination of the two where I, as I was eating, I was like, I don't know, it was a combination of the two where I, as I was eating, I was like, I shouldn't eat any more of this stuff

as it kind of went on. Because we all got the smaller steaks. We did. Well Tim, you mentioned that there was a lot of just like loaded potato going on. And the loaded potato skins, the appetizer, they've a loaded potato soup, which none of us got.

I never understood, I wish it had, we should have ordered that for research purposes because I don't know, when you, the on the appetizers is loaded potato soup, and then there's also steak soup. Steak soup seems kind of crazy to me when they're, I haven't had the steak soup, I have had the loaded baked potato soup in the past,

and it kind of is just like a pureed version, like a, like of the baked potato itself. It's got all the same components with some like like making garnish. The statement I have on how the steak soup, I think would apply to like 99% of America. I don't know who has had the steak soup. But I do think the Shroom cocktail was the highlight here.

Everything else was fine. This is the thing. We've had Mitch, you and I have had, I can't count how many of these versions of the sampler plot are, we've had a different chain restaurant. I kind of liked the little zucchini thing. They were bad, but... I'm breaded, fried vegetables, dip it in ranch or whatever. That's the thing, they're all pretty much the same.

Like, this is definitely like a high ceiling, high floor low ceiling food. And I don't think the floor or ceiling are all that high. Like, it's just, it's kind of like whatever, you know, you get this at TGI Fridays, you get this at Chili's, it's all the same. I had Muso and Frank's this last week, which I love. And the shrimp cocktail at Black Angus was better than. Wow. And I love Muso and Frank's and don't go to Muso and Frank's become LA ever. It's great restaurant. but it did. The shrimp tasted fine. They were a little kind of dinky tramps.

They were. There's one. That's why he needed to. Yeah. Can I just say one thing because I forgot to say it on my podcast, but when it just back to pizza for one second, I do believe in Joe's pizza in New York. When I get that pizza, I feel very happy. I feel like that's the ideal pizza for me.

It's like a simple New York slice. I do like Chicago style pizza, P-quads. It's like, I'm not a skits a hater, for sure. I'm just not putting it, whatever. I just want to get clear, I know what I'm talking about with pizza. Well, tooth, so this is the podcast.

So, personally, we're done with that. Silo that out. Two bits of news for you. One is that Joe's pizza is now come to Hollywood. Yes, they're going around for a while. Yeah, they're out there. Yeah, but then the official New York Joe's, and then two, oh, this isn't, I was more asking you, because you're Pennsylvania, right?

What for you, did you have like, and you also even go over this, you were vegan at one point. Not really. No, that's a lot. I've taken, where did you get that from? I think I got that maybe from the net. I've taken breaks from meeting meat. I mean, I haven't gone full.

I, no, yeah. Someone told me, someone texted me that you were vegan when I said you were coming on Please tell me who this is. I can't wait to find out I look have you had here's here's one because this is the place that Mitch took me to and I did really that feel like I had a Transcendent slice of pizza and it had been hyped to me for years on this podcast Which is pizza Rio Regina in Boston? Have you ever had that? I've never had good pizza in Boston. Wow I mean that's a thing, right? I mean,

that's a thing. That's the baston pizza is known for being. No. Yes. Pizza, or your Regina in the North end is the North end is. Okay. That's like the Italian. The Italian section where the only Italians were where that's where they are. Okay. That's that's very good. Oh, I looked up vegan. All I can find is that you saying we could do that vegan McDonald's on the Maria. Is that what you're thinking of? No. Someone told me you were vegan or had been vegan at one point.

Maybe. I mean, I go through every fad there is at some point. Yeah. But that wasn't long, it wasn't a long period of time. Did you not eat meat? He didn't know. He didn't know. He didn't know.

He didn't know. I watched that documentary that was very popular a few years ago. That's flexible. Oh, yeah. I can't remember what it was called. Uh, I know what you're talking about. I can't remember the title. I read the classic nearly-

Nation years ago and that kind of, they made that into a doc too. And that was one that put me off meat for a while. And then more recently, I kind of did it almost partly as a health thing, but also partly as a challenge to do this podcast without having meet for a whole year. You didn't know fish, too, right? You were just doing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, I think all these places should be serving veggie burgers. Like, I think the veggie burgers at, you know, it's got a great veggie burgers, astro. Astro. Oh sure. But all the, like McDonald's should be totally having a veggie burger on the menu that he would be,

as probably wouldn't know the difference. We had a terrible name, it was the McPlan. They had the McPlan on here. Here's the thing, like all these chains have tried this. They've all tried some pea protein patty. They've all tried like the beyond or the impossible version. The only one that stuck around is the Burger King Impossible whopper all the rest of them like young brands like tried it at Taco Bell they tried to KFC they tried it as a walkers is try to pizza and they like they

they they they discontinued all of them because they just weren't selling I think part of it is because there's a premium and if it's if it's more expensive than meat I think then the someone who eats meat isn't going to go for it., it does, does Del Taco still do the... No, they discontinued beyond tacos. Those were good, yeah. Yeah, it's the mama, if this is hurtful anyway, I apologize. How come you didn't look any better

after that year of vegetarian eating? Jesus Christ. Was it a year? That was a year, well. I did honestly, I did gain some weight. Yeah, you looked more like shit. I did look worse. Well, you know what it is?

Here's the thing is like because you're eating less. You look great. Because, thank you, Mitch. But like, you end up eating more carbs to compensate. Cause it's just like, I don't know. Hey, if I go to a fast food restaurant, I'm gonna get it. Well, I can't get a burger.

Well, I guess I'll get like fucking cheese fries or something. Or I'll eat more pizza or eat more like quesadillas and ice cream. Yeah, exactly. Working with you, I can't not look at your thighs. They're on display all the time, as you see. So I think I noticed with the, during the, well, it was that thing where I was like,

oh, is why you're gonna get really skinny? I guess I just noticed you like, slimming down, which I guess is just, is not the truth when you become a vegetarian or vegan. No, not necessarily. No, yeah. No, because it's like the, what's the cliche, the college vegetarian, right? It's like you're just, you're eating like really unhealthy, so you're in a bunch of pasta and pizza,

you know, but you're not eating meat. I'm looking over the menu right now and I don't think there are really any options that you can get as a straight-up vegetarian here. I mean, they do have a salmon and they do have a, you know, you can't get like a shrimp, but there isn't anything that there isn't even just like a patecinia alfredo or something. Yeah, yeah, there's nothing like that. Your option, I hear I think is a farm fresh salad with no protein, which is a real bummer of a dinner.

So that's just a thing to consider. This is very much meant for meat eaters. So. Tim, I got a question for you. Before we get back into it, did you have any Pennsylvania restaurants that you love that you miss that aren't out here? Is there something?

I mean, I know that like, they talk about paths and genos and then like people say those suck and then there's all the ones that are better. Alan Town, Pennsylvania and the restaurant that we would go to was a restaurant called the Brass Rail. And it was like an elevated diner. It was, you know, it was a diner, I guess, a family restaurant, but they, it was, they had, if it was a familyer, I guess, a family restaurant. But it was a family restaurant.

You could get like Manacotti. You could get a sirloin steak, but they also had the cheese steaks. Their cheese steaks, I thought, were as good as the Philly ones. They were great. Parogies. It had Pennsylvania Dutch quality, a little bit of an influence there, but you'd get rice pudding. It's kind of, there was,

it was a family run place, they just closed, but they closed for good, but they've been around since like the 40s or something. And they had some old Pennsylvania Dutch servers there and a couple of the names, and I'll never forget these women. There's a couple of their names and they had the name tags. One was Bimby.

And one was Dorcas. That's a name. Wow. That's a good group name I think. But that's like something we get called if we read bullied. Yeah. The Indian Dorcas. Who's who?

Sorry. Yeah. And my, this is great. My dad had worked kind of basically next door. He worked at a card dealership with my other grandfather and uncle. And they were almost like four days a week, their lunch, you know, it was great. And but they never, their customer service was never great. This is very Pennsylvania Dutch kind of thing. They they come in and they would just treat them like, you know, there's no, hey, there Rich, how's it going, how's it going? There's like, where, how many are you?

You know, I'm gonna add it to it. And then they would say smoking or non-smoking, or they would say smoking preference. That's what they was to say. For people that they see like four times. Four times doing smoking preference. That's what I'm saying. They don't care.

My dad, first time my dad really made me laugh, well, that's not true, I'm pushing him, but when I was like, oh, my dad's cool, they would say smoking preference and he would go, hash. That's good. It's kind of an edgy dad, yeah. It's an edgy dad, yeah. That's what baby boomer.

When I told you that I got a, I told you that on office hours that I got a colonoscopy, that I got the camera up there. And then my dad's big joke was, I always said he was full of shit. The doctor, the doctor's all liked it. It was a nice moment. Yeah, yeah, it's fun.

But that was my thing. And then the other thing, we would go, might what we considered sort of that burger king next, like up one level from whatever's fast food for us was Arby's. Yeah, I like Arby's was a little bit of a we would go and sit down and of course you'd order at the counter and stuff but we would that would be like a Wednesday night kind of a you know family out we're going out to dinner we're gonna go to Arby's. Oh that would be good and it wasn't considered gross. It wasn't considered low-brow.

No, no, no. You know, it was just like, you can get a good turkey sandwich there. Yeah. The Jemoka shake is great. The Jemoka shake is awesome. The beef and cheddar, I think, is really good. Hey, it's a love of beef and cheddar. I was about to say we're a big defender of Arby's, but it seems like we defend pretty much ever. Yeah, there's a... Like, what would you go? What would you like say, I'm not like, for me, maybe like long John Silver's,

I would stay away from long dead bad. They're on their way out. We've had, I mean, we've reviewed it a couple of times the podcast, it's been a pretty bad experience both times. Hardies, hardies is probably. Hardies, hardies and Carl's junior, they're same, corporate ownership.

But hardies, different menu, right? It has a lot of overlap, but I've honestly never eaten at a proper hearties. That would be interesting. We ever want to do an episode on that, like everywhere we east to the Mississippi, or every dividing line. Yeah, it was Mississippi.

But I mean, we won't do that. Yeah, of course, we would also, sorry, one more we would go to the pizza hut when the pizza hut was a restaurant. Yes, the buffet. Not even buffet. Well, they would have the salad bar. Yeah.

But we would go to a pizza hut that had a waiter and it was great. It was the best. That's an nostalgic experience that I think is over due to be brought back. And I'm surprised they haven't taken a crack at it. But I will say that like, even if it's not pizza hut themselves, that someone else hasn't tried the Pizza Hut style parlor.

Yeah. But the, speaking of what has fallen off or what we're not a fan of, a pizza hut now, I think is a place that we've had some pretty bad experiences with Mitch. Yeah, it's been awful. Um, bring back the pizza hut restaurants, bring back smoking sections, bring back cigarettes. We want cigarettes back. We don't have a bring back cigarettes. Uh, uh, let's say we, okay, so we also got the three cheese garlic bread, which to me, the highlight of the meal,

this is the best bite I had. It was, it was very good. I would say yes, except for the dessert, which we can talk about later. Dessert was great. Yeah, dessert, dessert was good. But I mean, maybe that kind of speaks to the experience that garlic bread and then a mud pie

were like what are takeaways of like, that was really good at the steakhouse for a place that we spent a good amount of money on, which I'll get to. Oh, I did anything, I don't see any of those either. Do you want to, I mean, I'll just tell you, we spent with tax, with tax and tip, we spent about a hundred bucks ahead. This was like, this is an expensive meal, and we did not go nuts here. Right, no, we had one drink each. We had one drink each. We got two appetizers, we got two desserts, and then we each got an

entree. Like we did not go nuts here, but this place is it's fucking expensive. That's a high price point. Yeah, and is that a thing people say? Okay, let's get into the and unless anyone has any other thoughts on the garlic bread, we can get in the main. That was great. I thought it was very tasty. Yeah, garlic. It kind of looked better than it actually was because it looked really like brown, and you know, it had some nice char.

It was like it felt really, and it was good, but it almost was wanting a little more savory flavor in that. Oh yeah, sure. I don't know if it was garlic, there was a taste of garlic. You get some garlic bread and it's like, Dracula could chow down on us before. Oh yeah sure. I was. There was a taste of garlic. You get some garlic bread and it's like Dracula could chow down on us. Right right. And then if I saw it's Dracula eating this I'd say

I don't know how you're doing it. I guess. I'd say. Can I use that as in my stand-up? A little Dracula. They're going to these so-called garlic bread places. I mean, Dracula can eat it. What did he use? No problem. You're welcome. You're very welcome. You're very welcome. Unless you want to use it. I mean, unless you're thinking about developing,

I'd use it, but then in that scenario, I only have one joke. Okay. That's good. Okay. It was very cheesy. Like, that was the main thing you were getting was just a lot of cheese and ink and the other

garlic was a little bit on the back burner. Okay, so getting the steaks. I got a ribeye and I've been eating less red meat in general, but this is a steakhouse. This is the point of the experience. You did the right thing. Kind of had to get it here. I got the ribeye and I got crispy shrimp on the side. You get two side kicks, which is what they call their sides.

I got the Caesar salad. Which that, by the way. Yeah, heat that. I don't like side kicks, which is what they call their sides. I got the Caesar salad. Which by the way, hate that. I don't like side kicks. Is it fun? No, not to me, but I don't know. Maybe there's dopes out there. We're gone by that. I know.

That's why I'm like. That's why I'm like. Yeah, kick. Tell the code there. I don't know why I'm just doing dumb Southern guy. I'm not going to do a Boston guy, but I don't. They would not be impressed by it. I, and there was no black angus in Boston. But I, I,

One in the South for that matter. Yeah. People in Hawaii love it. The Caesar salad was inexplicably an upcharge. I have no idea why this cost more than a regular size. Does it make sense? Yeah. I got the wedge being an upcharge,

but the wedge, I had both of our add-ons because you got the wedge, correct. And then you also got the loaded bake potato. Yeah, that was disappointing. They were both so disappointing. I thought, I mean, like the wedge was fine. It was fine. Cold fork was neat.

Cold fork, I love that. But I think we both had that same issue. And I'm not like, I'm not a guy who's like eating the goop off of the wedge salad, but we both had the pretty huge head of lettuce left over on the wedge. Yes, not a lot of dressing. Yeah, yeah, I wasn't, or at least it wasn't,

they didn't, they didn't slather it on, correctly. No. But that, I thought the side cakes were also confusing because it was salads. There were salad soups and then sides all in there. There were different categories of,

what is it? There was like bonus side kicks or something or like featured side kicks. Premium side kicks. Premium side kicks. And that's where I got the best series of salad was. And the wedge salad were both premium side kicks. It's, which is an upcharge.

It is confusing. You load a big potato, also premium sidekick. See, and that was that double up charge. That's what you want to standard sidekick. Okay, I'll read down the fullest. It's too many. It's in Gapachka. This is the kind of thing that, you know,

someone with a celebrity chef would come through and tell them to simplify their menu. Garden salad, loaded baked potato soup, steak soup, five grain rice pilaf. Who's ordering the pilaf? No, it's getting the pilaf. Who's getting the pilaf? Roasted green beans, French fries, five grain rice pilaf. Who's ordering the pilaf? No, he's getting the pilaf. He's getting the pilaf. Roasted green beans, French fries which I got,

red skin mashed potatoes, mac and cheese, classic baked potato, all grought and potatoes. You don't need four potato fries. I didn't see that all grought and I might have gone all grought and that would have been my steakhouse choice. I think that maybe that might have been a better call than the baked potato based on your responses. And better than the fries based on my fries,

and then also fresh broccoli with garlic butter. So you got a lot of options here, and then there's five premium side cakes on top of that. I'm going to like a high end, like, you know, you go to like a high end steakhouse, like what would be a good example of that? More, yeah, we're like, Mastros.

Sparks, is that one? Cut. So yeah, cut is the Wolfgang Puck one. Yeah. What's the classic one in New York? Like, oh, yeah, the one that's in the, it's been a spark. Yeah, cut is the Wolfgang Puck one. Yeah. What's the classic one in New York? Like, uh, oh, yeah, the one that's in the, uh, the, it's in, it's in Williamsburg. Yeah.

It's like, it's like a, it's like a name. Yeah. Yeah. It's called, but some fucking brilliant guy on it. It's what the hell's it's called. Somebody back there behind the cameras might know, but, uh, uh, it's coming to me. No, it's not. It's gone.

But you, you want, I want cream spinach. Anybody? Cream spinach? Oh, yeah, I love a cream spinach. Not an option that I'm not out of it all. Yeah, are you talking about the Peter Luger Peter Luger? Thank you Peter Luger with there's others like that. Lower these out here kind of you get you know big hot mess of cream spinach Maybe mushrooms sure some good mushrooms and some Yeah, some potatoes out gratin or or good fries you know good french fries would be great

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Okay. Yeah, yeah. And it just sounds like Kruger too. So I think that's maybe a part of what's clicking in my head right now. We're thinking of Freddie Krueger coming off of Halloween. Yeah. This week you season got it. Yeah. So the stakes themselves, the we're talking about the main event. Yeah, please. I sure you don't want to get into Krueger as a little bit. Yeah.

Or Uger's. Or Uger's Groceries. My son calls it a Freddie Krueger. That's really cute. That's cute. He's 20. I think I said that on my... I have a great dad joke or if you have kids. You don't have kids. No. But your audience might.

You're going to be pretty low-key demographic. Ask me, I say I have two kids. Yeah. And if one of your stock responses that might be to ask Kowal there, yeah, how old are your kids? They're my age. That's fine.

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This is not that. This was kind of microwave-feeling. It was not. I just remember like the sour cream just kind of like solidified in the middle of it. It was, it was, it was, it was hard. It was not ideal. Which is, it seems like a thing that's also hard to make bad, but it was bad.

Krispy Shrip was fine. Maybe the best thing on the plate. So a lot of cocktail sauce and then Mitch and I both got the rib by medium rare with the roasted jalapeno butter. We did. We were very similar. Yeah, Twinsies. I was trying to get, I was trying to get us the poor house for two, but you know,

I don't think it would have been all that. It's not a cost savings. That's the thing, I did the math. It would have honestly probably would have cost us more. You know, yeah. Well, I got the New York strip, just to, because I always, my go-to is the, is the, what you guys ordered,

the ribeye. And I want to say, I'll try something different. It feels like maybe very, but I looked at your play looked at my, they looked like the same cuts. Yeah, they might have been the same cut of meat. It feels like maybe very, but I looked at your play, looked at my, they looked like the same cut. Yeah, they might have been the same cut of meat. It's relabeled. Unremarkable cuts of meat, like not.

Yeah. No. No, not, not. What you were saying during the meal was pretty accurate that it was a decent airport meal. If you were in the airport. Yeah, I felt really, I had this feeling of like, all right, I think they're boarding in about 20.

I guess that's the feeling of. Which was that? That would have been nice. I had a great piece of meat with the lines on it, but like, nothing great about any of the plates. Like, I don't know. Speaking of Kruger, sorry to go back to you. The steaks, the shades of stake that they put on the menu.

Oh, that was weird. It was very strange. It was very red and then on a red background. Yeah, they had the, to give you a sense of medium, medium rare, rare, they had what the insights look like. Those stakes were on a, like a blood red background. Which is just blended, it blended into the back. You couldn't tell what it, what it was.

And then the medium rare was like so red that I was afraid to get it. And then when we got it, like you're saying, it was like, oh, it's just, it's gray. Yeah, and it was not, yours wasn't medium rare, right? No, no, not even close. I have the menu here. Well, there was just a hot font,

which we can maybe put up on the YouTube or. Take a look, that's hot. It's a weird color. That's weird. Any other color. Yeah, it's black or blue. I mean, black angus work for the black and black. Yeah.

I wonder if they were partly trying to deter like people who have steak like twit, like it's like, oh, this is our big indulge. They're gonna go out and steak and like, oh, I'll get a medium rare. And but then they get it and they're like, wait, I want my meat cooked through all the way. I wonder if they're probably trying to deter people

who don't have it often. I don't know. It looks like- Because like really rare. The other thing is this is like a level of, I guess, well, it's chain. It's not fast food, it's chain restaurants. That it's competing with what?

Like Applebee? Yeah, sure. Longhorn steakhouse. Yeah, maybe Red Lobster. Sure. Outback. Outback, you got a cheesecake factory? Yeah, one hundred percent.

Could you get a steak at the cheesecake factory? You can, yeah, and it would probably be better than this steak. And so anybody, and I have like a, my aunt back in Pennsylvania, they're like, you know, they don't go out to eat a lot, they're like, you know, they don't go out to eat a lot, they don't have a lot of money, they're on a fixed income and everything.

And like, when they go out to eat, it's a big deal. Sure. And they're like, for someone's birthday in that family, they would go to red lobster. Because that's like, and I'm not judging at all. It's a fact. If there was this restaurant in town, they wouldn't go back. Interesting.

I don't think they would, because it's too expensive. And it's like, well, we had the same, we had a better experience at Red Lobster. And it was probably cheaper, right? Or at Outback, or like, I don't know how this restaurant, if the quality is gonna be the way it was that we had, and the price is gonna be that high,

like how does that restaurant survive? That's not what it is. I mean, that the answer, the short answer might be, it's not really, it's clearly retracting or contracting. I mean, like, look, I have a lot of fondness for this place, I have a lot of nostalgia for it. I will, it's easy to acknowledge that this was not a great stake. And that, mine was cooked like medium or medium.

It felt like it was pretty decently cooked. I feel like a steakhouse will usually get it at temperature, okay. But the big issues are, it's cooked on that, you know, like that flame grill. So it's got like the grill marks, but it doesn't really have any texture to it. It's just kind of like... No, like, yeah, that, what was that, my lard?

Yeah. What do that kind of like, caramelized, yes, the skin or whatever is, there's a crispness to the outside of it. was that malard? What do that kind of like caramelized skin or whatever is, there's a crispness to the outside of it. Yeah, so it just kind of has a little bit of a, dummy chewy texture to it. And then also it doesn't seem to be season at all.

They might have put a little salt on there, but like I really needed that roasted jalapeno butter, or else it wouldn't have had any, any real flavor outside of the meat itself. And this is another thing that you and I talked about Tim and I thought this was a great point you made is in terms of degree of difficulty and how much you'll be paying for it out of a restaurant,

like steak is a much better option to do at home. Like I always say that. It's like if you learn, you can look up, go to the grocery store and get a ribeye, take it home, get a cast iron pan, get it screaming hot, throwing the steak in there, and flip it around a couple times. Salt, well, if you can really get into it,

you'd salt the shit out of it like an hour ahead of time on both sides. Let it kind of come up to room temperature, throw it in that hot pan, flip it around a couple times, add a little butter, a little sage, or whatever, a little, you know, some herbs if you want. That's the best steak you're gonna have. Yeah. That's the best steak you're gonna get.

Yeah, it's, and it's, it's a lot simpler than a lot of other like fine dining, you know, sort of prestige. Well, it's one of the things that we want to, because we want, what steakhouse do we go with Calpacus? We went to Mortons. Mortons was good. At life's, I, but it's like, you know, you go to a nice steakhouse for me, it's like, you're gonna get a martini. Sure.

You're gonna get those sides that I mentioned. It's a, you know, a glass of wine or a bottle of wine. And it's like, the steak is almost not the main event. Yeah. The steak is kind of the reason for the season. That's kind of cool. I, that is great. That's right. Everything else is like actually the fun stuff. Yeah. Yeah. No, I like, I do like a st- that aside, I do love stake house vibes. I love going to a

stake house, like just for atmosphere alone. Like that does a lot for me. The issue with black angus is, you know, the stake itself is just so, you know, spending $40 on this bad boy. I don't know. It's not necessarily the best option there. Right. And especially in a city like L.A., you can find local stake houses that have more charm in that a better quality of food. But that's all that said. The reason I brought up Kruger, by the way, is because his skin looked like the meat. That's what it was. We should talk about desserts as well. That was more of a, well actually I shouldn't say half of it was a mix bag.

It was a mix bag. The sky high mud pie I thought was. I ordered that. That was meant to be my dessert and I realized it was huge. We were going to share. Yeah. But it was like, oh, that's pretty good. Yeah, that one was pretty good.

And then Oreo crust. Yeah, that one was pretty good. And then Oreo crust. Yeah. Then we got the dud. We got the chocolate chip, cowboy cookie, which they're really pushing. Like they have like a full page splash. Which, how, off easily. It was hard to physically get. Yeah. It was like stuck, it came serving like a tin wheel.

Yes. Yeah. It was just like, it didn't come up off that. So you had to like kind of scrape away at the tin. You almost feel like you're gonna get some tin with your cookie. Yes, which I don't want personally. The minerals could be good.

The minerals could be good. The minerals could be good. But overall, I'm not trying to eat 10. No. But it was it was it was hard in one area. And then the next would be goopy. Yeah. Yeah. The texture was really inconsistent. One spot you got goop and then there's his hard. But I mean, the main thing is it's like you're especially right next door to a BJ's. They got the bazooki, which is a show stopper, and it's always consistent. This was fucking a pale imitation of a bazooki. And it was, and I also think like it was just like a low quality

of the chocolate chip, but like whatever, it felt like a grocery store like out of the two. I'm not gonna eat the tin. No, I'm not, not the tin man. Or go back to that. The tin man doesn't eat the tin. The tin man just needs his own flesh. No, how he gets the name is because he's made out of tin.

I'm no good. He's a 19th century robot. Like I said, no, I'm no good. I don't want the, you don't want the, and then you're right. And that cookie is made in the little skillet. To the skillet. Yeah, which is so much better than that.

Yeah, it comes off, it comes out easier. Yeah, no tin. Yeah. I mean, I feel bad. No, I don't know the show. I was like, we got a great guest. We're going to show. Can I give a positive piece of positive perspective on it?

Please. I went home, I felt fine. Okay. Like I laid down to go to bed shortly after getting home, and I slept well, I had a good bowel movement this morning. That's great. You know what? I was expecting the worst. Yeah. And I ate all those

appetizers. I had that big, that dessert is essentially ice cream and Oreo cookies. You know, all that stuff could have led to some intestinal discomfort or bad sleep, you know, like all kinds of consequences, food poisoning, that place kind of had food poisoning, red flags, all over the nation. 100% the shrimp and everything too. And I was nervous about some of that stuff. I mean, I thought the shrimp was good, but I was just like, who knows. The cocktail sauce was on a heated plate, it's chill.

So I felt it was overall like it didn't, there was no downside after the fact. No, I, I've not had a bowel movement and I didn't sleep well, but I, but I didn't sleep well, not because of the thing. Not had a bowel movement since we had dinner. Yeah, I know. Clark's taken, dude. Yeah, I know. Jesus Christ.

I know, I'm kind of nervous. There won't be a Mr. Creosow situation or something. and nervously, there won't be a Mr. Kriusot situation or something. I also, my bathroom light turned on at 3 a.m. Ooh. I drove by a murder house recently and I now want to go to my house as haunted. It is. It is.

I should have, I'd buy the murder house. The ghost like gets in your car. I think a ghost maybe followed me home. I did. I plotted this haunted mansion movie that I had to watch with my kids. Wait, really? The newest one? Yeah, that they go to this haunted mansion,

but then they leave and they, a ghost is now with them. Oh, they get like a hitchhiking ghost. So they've got to go back to the mansion and they're like, they've lived there now. Do you know what's scary about the murder house? I was the Los Viales murder house. Yeah, by the park there. Yeah.

And then the house on haunted hill House is behind it. Wow. Which is so scary. It's like right behind it. And the house is just still empty. It's still just empty. Years ago, I remember driving up there and being like, oh, there it is. I, you could walk right up to now that it's, it is bar wired off, but I drove by it with a friend who wanted to see it. Now, the light went on at 3 a.m. and I am just nervous. Oh man. Did you get back to sleep? Yeah, but I was scared. At my first thought was, is that a ghost? I did sleep.

I also slept very well. I honestly slept like nine hours. I get a great night sleep of 2 B.M.s, quality B.M.s, feeling pretty good. I did have no ghost, but I did have a dream. You and I were in a big booth. We were back in the big booth at Black Angus. Oh he goes. No goes, but I did have a dream. You and I were in the big booth. We were back in the big booth at Black Angus. It wasn't a black Angus though. It was just like a weird big booth someone.

It's been annoying. I've been having dreams lately that I would consider good dreams. Yeah. That are annoying because they're like, oh, that didn't happen. You wake up and like, oh, cool. I'm like, good thing, you know what happened.

It's worse than a nightmare. Yeah, you're right. I'd rather have a nightmare. Because then you're relieved. Wake up and be like, oh, fuf, that didn't happen. I'm having good dreams. And then, I'm. Well, mine was no, this was a, I checked my security camera.

Yeah. And which is facing the bathroom basically. Sure. Uh, well, I wouldn't it be. And uh, that light went on at 3 a.m. And I, and I, and I saw what you told guests, I had this camera is for security. Don't worry about it. Is it on just a simple switch? Yeah. Uh, no, it's not a motion sensor switch. Wow. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. it. It's definitely a ghost. Yeah. Yeah. What's his name? Anderson? Miss Grandson. Do it. Anderson. Do it. I was gonna say it might be Stewart checking in on you. That's. Did you guys ever do P-Soup Anderson? No, we haven't. No, we haven't. Yeah, that was a little out of the way. A little out of the way. But that's a great restaurant. I've been a number of times.

This is a place that I don't know if there's more than one of them. I think there are a few. There might be three at the most. You'll see them on the road up the coast, or California like driving from, you know, so cal to North Cal, routinely run into them. And it's like a big windmill in every. Yeah. It's just like a Dutch Swedish kind of eye, but they got all you can eat pea soup. And it's really good. I do remember enjoying the pea soup. Yeah. It's very good. I like it up there. I said, the exorcist girl, you'd see in there.

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Your guest will begin with you. I had a, let me just say I had a great time spending a couple hours talking to you guys. That was the highlight. It was fun. It was great. We talked comedy. We talked about what we like, what we don't like, we get into it,

we got to know each other more. I'm, Mitch, I'm getting to know you. I've just met you for the first time. That's right. I've spent some time with you, I'm continuing to develop a friendship. Of course. I'm gonna be honest with you.

You won't get to know him much more than me. I mean, I might be aware of, I'm fine. I'm like, yes. I'm sorry, I'm gonna pursue this a little stronger this time. If you don't mind. That's right. Everything else was mediocre at best.

Yeah. Nothing really to write home about. I won't be going back. Although the parking is tempting, if there was a movie at that theater that I was thinking about doing a dinner movie, the parking is tempting, if there was a movie at that theater that I was thinking about doing a dinner movie, the parking there was, but then I'd have to re-park anyway. So I don't think I'll ever go back.

So I'll just go two forks. Two forks. Two forks is a decent score. I don't have the history with us besides the name, which is a funny name in many ways. It's that sort of thing of when you eat a steak, you want it to be good. You want it to be good. If you're spending the calories on a steak, it's right. And nothing here, it was just mediocre. It's that sad thing that there's not even too much to say about it. And I don't have the thing you have, which is,

also, there's the dogs in here, which is fun. Jamie, Emma's dog, Jamie. Jamie's here. And we love Jamie. Jamie's here and we love Jamie. Jamie's on the floor being cute. We had a little bit of an eye. I'm during office hours we had a dog shit in the studio. That's right. Big, big dog.

We've dumped right at the top of the show is unbelievable. Yeah. That's honestly, Jamie, get up there and do it girl. Hahaha. Our listeners would like that moment the most probably. But yeah, the company was great. It just feels like a chain that's on its way out, the light menus, the stake being a low light of the whole meal.

I got to go, I'll go two forks as well. I think two is kind of the perfect number. I think that's a fair score. I'm gonna go a little higher, not that this place necessarily deserves off of this experience, but you know, I have a lot of experiences with this place. Now, you know, I've gone to this place on Thanksgiving, which is kind of like a, like, we were just like,

yeah, let's go to a chain restaurant for Thanksgiving. We've been to this place and like, that has been like a fun experience, just the two of us. And I, yeah, we both went to it a lot growing up or had been to it growing up. I went, you know, a fair amount does like a special indulgence. Mitch, when you and I were pursuing

the possibility of a Doe Boy's book, one thing we talked about was like some taxonomy for different categories of chain restaurants. And one we landed on is Dad's birthday. And I feel like this place is, landed on is Dad's birthday. And I feel like this place is slots right into Dad's birthday. Like I feel like there were there were there were there were there were there were there were divorce dad celebrating their birthdays like last night. Like we people were being sung happy birthday to when there were probably,

you know, a male parents without a partner. And like we were just like that's just the vibe of this place. And so I think it kind of has its had its moment rather. And like, we were just, like, that's just the vibe of this place. And so I think it kind of has its moment rather, but yeah, clearly it's kind of fading into the sunset, much like a very Western appropriate, perhaps. But I did wanna play this because we didn't get to this earlier, but they had this cowboy who I've learned

his name Travis, who was kind of their living mascot throughout the 80s and 90s and had a bunch of these ads, and this is one of them. I think a pretty good example of what his demeanor was. This is the, got to get spruced up TV commercial. Yeah. That gets spruced up. Big deal through by the guys.

This month you can say, 13 bucks, get two half pound prom rib dinners. Share their wagon wheel appetizer sampler then split a big mountain fudge cake. I tried. I'm selling his arms too. I mean, I know what this is. They're trying to confuse you in the thinking you're going to outback stay count. That's talking about Dundee.

Yeah, right? It's a knife in the hat. It is very much like, yeah, this is the American Western crocodile Dundee. Yeah, right? It's a knife in the hat. It is very much like, yeah, this is the American Western crocodile Dundee. But it's not a beard. It also predates outback. But yeah, it does, yeah. Are you sure?

Well, I'm pretty sure. This is not this commercial. No, not this commercial. Sure, that's the change. I'm saying the commercial feels like it's a reaction because 97 seems like. 100%. When did Outback hit?

That's gotta be nice. It was the 90s. I mean, it was the aftermath of the 90s. 90s, 90s, 90s. Yeah. Yeah. But probably right before this, I feel like. Also, again, confusing.

He's an Australian-y kind of guy. Is he? No, this guy's a cowboy. He's a cowboy. But why is he in the snow? He's like, the whole thing is that there's a bunch of these ads, he's like very rugged. So he's like, I'm taking a bath in the ice

and I'm shaving with a knife because I'm a man's man and you will be too if you come to this cowboy's stay-couse. And then he pulls the fresh salmon out and is like, this is the appetizer because I'm just that rugged. They're all like this, there's one where he's like, he like scares off a bear. It's, they're all scared. I might be wrong.

I was just my first impression that I'm thinking out back steakhouse, crocodile dundee. Crocodile dundee might have been totally out of, out of vogue or whatever. No, I think you're right. I think the out back steakhouse was much more relevant at the time of this campaign. And they probably could have been a reaction to it

very much so. I think this hurt my fork score. I don't think that this helped the fork score. It's interesting to see that the wagon wheel appetizer sample, which we got last night, but they were advertising that like fucking 30 years ago that it's been around, the menu's just like not about it. Is it also a wheel?

Is the, did they serve the airs in a wheel? It's a wonderful wheel, but those are the same fucking apps. Look, it was the fried zucchini. Well, you could say the same thing about the big Mac, I suppose. But that is a wheel. That's a wheel. That's a wheel. That's a much more of a wheel.

That's a wheel. He's shaving the rest of his beard and then his arm. I don't want this ghost of Stuart Anderson to come at me, but. I have. I think for what it's doing, is it changing? Are we still waiting on your rating?

Is that what's going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think for what it's doing, I'm still waiting on your rating, is that what's going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think for what it's trying to do, I think I'm gonna go write it three forks. And maybe two, two forks, three times. Maybe that's the better score. You know what, I'm gonna bump up my score just a bit to two and a quarter forks,

forks proximity to tunes, it has very close to Dr. Tune's office. So I think that that is a huge plus. I think this last experience, I have to go two forks, forks, proximity to tunes. It has very close to Dr. Tunes. So I think that that is a huge plus. I think this last experience, I have to go two forks three times. It's just, I can't give it three. But I do have some affection for it. All right, it's time for a segment. This is the Michelin men.

This is from our associate producer Amelia. I don't know. Nick. You know Amelia? Amelia, you're the audience knows Amelia. Yeah, yeah. Yes, Amelia, interned for us at absolutely productions. Apparently, she reminded me that she worked on one of my shows, Decker.

That's right. And it was very nice to see her because when she was working for us, I just had my, I didn't have my, I had my, my wife had my daughter, whose name was Amelia, and it was like, oh, my daughter's Amelia, you know, and so I got to show her a picture of Amelia, who's now her husband. It's very sweet. And there she is producing this very popular podcast, so everything's, everything in the world is going great.

She's great. A huge weirdo Amelia is, and you'll see by whatever this game is, they're about to play. Oh, a game. This is the Michelin Men. Nick Mitch and Tim review, four menu items from a Michelin star restaurant, and have to determine if they'd rather eat at that Michelin

restaurant for free, or get a new set of Michelin brand tires for free. It's a restaurant or tires. So I'll read the restaurant name and then I will, and where it is and it's star rating and then I will give the menu and then we will each get our verdict. First up, wintering him fields.

This is in Skunthorpe in the UK and this is a one-star Michelin restaurant. Pearl Barley, risotto, raw button mushroom black truffle, Boba Ghanouche, which is burnt, Abergine, puree, lemon preserve, and crispy chickpea, beetroot tartar with whole grain mustard sorbet, and butternets squash, agnolotti, anulotti, with tender stem broccoli, roast butternets squash, and almond. This seems like a veggie menu. This seems like this is all the whole menu. This is the tasting menu that you would get from this particular place.

I mean, honestly, yeah. Yeah. I think I will go, Michelin tires. I think I got to go tires here. I'm going that restaurant because I'm such an Anglo-File. I love the UK. I can picture myself in this cottage in the country. And it's all very fresh. And the people people are super nice and it feels like a lovely, lovely time. Have you spent a lot of time in the UK? I have spent a fair amount of time. You're a big spanker. Big Beatles fan.

Yeah, I was just touring over there in March and I love it over there. Where do you like to go? What are your favorite towns? I don't know. London. Brighton. I mean, they're all great. I mean, I get to go to Liverpool on this trip.

Oh, that's fun. It's been a day there. Did you see it? Have you seen like Apple records or not Abbey Road? Yeah. I've been inside Abbey Road, which not a lot of people have. Wow, that's cool. And that was neat.

So, yeah, I just, I don't know, I love the people, I love just their, I don't know, nothing to really town, nothing like city specific necessarily, just got it. I wonder if there, head gum someday will be revered like Abbey Road, this building here. There's with that Do-Boys murder suicide happened. All right. Next up, Uresawa. This is right here in Beverly Hills, California. This is a two-star sushi restaurant. Kosode sushi.

This is a Japanese barracuda served and seared and served with Kenome leaf to flavor the rice instead of vinegar. Ikura-Gun-Kan sushi. This is salmon eggs wrapped in nori, marinated with soy, sweet sake, and bonito. Amaebi, this is live sweet prawns, sashimi and nigiri, and then an egg custard flavored with shrimp, mountain potato, sake, and sweet sake. Look, the live sweet prawns may give me paws,

but I think overall, I really like Japanese food and I really like sushi, and I wanted to try this place. I think it is like a sushi, a Michelin sushi chef is like the most trusted chef I could pick. Yeah, right, right. I'm blind or something, but the live prawn is. It's probably not served live,

but it might be like butcher in a way that's kind of like. All food was live at some point. That's also the case. Yeah. Right. I just, I couldn't need if it was live. That I think that is that's what this engine is on for me. Because if it was alive in my mouth,

I wouldn't be able to do that. Yeah. I'm going tires. I'm not a big sushi fan. Like I don't, I enjoy it from time to time. Sure. But again, going to the low floor, high ceiling thing, like high end sushi doesn't do much for me. Can I get like three tires in a piece of sushi? Can I do that? I don't know. I don't think that's an option. We can ask Amelia, but she's not here. I think you can actually do whatever you want. You know, hypothetically, getting like this.

But if you want a real answer, I think it was a free meal, the restaurant, or tires, so I think you get a free meal and three tires. I just want a piece of sushi. I'll call the restaurant now. Three times. I'll take three times. What's actually just got?

Is there any gold tires? Any gold sprinkled over any of that food? I like when they sprinkle gold. That is fun. I don't see any of that food? I like when they sprinkle gold. That is fun. I don't see any of that in the descriptions, but maybe we'll get there. Jimmy was right next to me. I thought it might have an opportunity to pet her,

but then she goes away. Yeah, you haven't been able to pet her yet today. He's a little skittish around. She's like a cat. It's gonna take awhile, but she'll get there. Okay. Our next up is Galete in Chicago. There's a one-star restaurant.

Bubby's brisket. This is smoky cinnamon tomatoes and braised carrots, fwagra, toasty chalaw, rhubarb, vanilla, nastersham, nasturdium, and tahini. N nastersham, okay, and tahina. Lobster, this is butter poached and grilled, lovage, salsa-fi, chickarees, and a lepo,

and then labne parfait, stone fruit, pistachio, olive oil, I'm sure, but you're a bunch of ingredients there. This sounds pretty good. I'm into that. I'm into that. I think I'll take the meal. I already have the tires. Yeah, we have, that's true.

At this point, we have the tires. Yeah, we have the, yeah, how many were gonna stockpile really? I'm not reselling the tires. I'm gonna do that. I got three tires over the day, 500 bucks. Wow. Wow.

Why did you only get three? I got two front ones. Okay. I got more front ones. Okay. I got three more than Black Angus. Hahaha. Hahaha. Did you actually, did you accidentally buy tires? I'm going to say,

what happened to the issue? Uh, I, uh, I got two new tires. And they're like, yeah, they got the back ones done soon, but we don't have any of the tires to come back. Then I was driving on the the freeway, you know, the you know, the you go up towards the zoo there the Park zoo the exit on the five to go towards you go you basically go towards Glendale. I got a free. It doesn't matter where it happened Well, actually it plays into it, not really. But I went to this place with Derek Waters and Eric Edelstein, Fish King.

Or did we talk about that in Glendale? And yeah, love Fish King. Oh, it's great. I've never been there before and it seems like such. I like things. Yeah, I think that you have great taste in food. I meant that sincerely. But I went on that little offer out there

and I pulled up the fish can. I had one of the new tires is flat. The tow truck driver comes and he tells me they changed 20 and he says that whole section there always has little, has stuff on. So careful when you're driving over on that little towards the, the Griffith Park zoo towards the, you know, towards Glendale

and the Great Potion. But that tire was wasted. So I need, I need three new tires. It's just fucking dead. Oh, but I have great meal at fish gang. Anyways, what is the question? We're eating at the place you want the, yeah, I want that. Yeah, okay. All right. Next up is a restaurant, Gordon Ramsey, speaking of celebrity chefs. This is in London next up is a restaurant Gordon Ramsey. Speaking of celebrity chefs, this is in London. This is a three-star restaurant. That's the most you can get in the Michelin scale.

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I'm sure he's a lovely boss. If people actually outside of the act, it's all an act. If people actually really like working for him like his crew and then all of his restaurant workers. That makes sense. It's always the people that you're like, you're outward person, you're outward persona

if it's gonna be like I'm a mean dick, I'm an asshole, I'm gonna take do it here Like those are the people that you fun you usually turn out to be probably like in person super nice I was heard Don Rickles was like a lovely man. He was like he always wrote the nice people Yeah, the James cordon Sure, Ellen's these people there the secret monsters in the back Like kind of see one thing about the Michelin thing or the secret monsters in the back of them. Like, can I just say one thing about the Michelin thing?

No, I'm a favorite, it's personal. I'm happy. Michelin thing a couple of years ago, the good fortune to do this movie in Tuscany. And they say that what you, one of the things to get in Tuscany is the, they do a stake there. I can't remember what it's called.

Oh, yes. The famous kind of a, okay. What's it? Because, well, there's, there's in Florence, they have a stake too. I can't remember what it's called. Oh, yes. The famous kind of a, yeah, okay. What's it? Because, because, well, there's, there's in Florence, they have a steak. I'm quarantined. This is a quarantine. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we, we were one night, we, and we would go out to dinner almost every night. This great group of people, Molly Shannon, Arbita Plaza, Fred, it was the best group of people,

like Alison, Brie, and we, and we all were just like every, we were just hanging, like stayed the same hotel, would go out to dinner. It was, best group of people like Alison, Bri, and we all were just like, we were just hanging, like stayed the same hotel, would go out to dinner. It was like camp for adults, it was crazy. And really lovely people and camp leave I did it. I got Zach Woods. Wow, just great, funny people. We're kind of hanging out with.

And we would just go and have these great meals. And there I could really say I had great meals. Like I appreciated, I appreciated the company, I appreciated the quality of the food. But one night we went to a Michelin restaurant, not because we planned to, it just happened to like, that we were in this area and there was like, oh, this actually is a Michelin star.

And I got the steak, Florentine, I hadn't gotten it yet. And it was like, it was like black angus. Oh man. It wasn't that bad. It was a little like, yeah. It was disappointing, because you feel like you're supposed to get this. Yeah, like an other word.

Yeah, that sucks. Sorry, just, I don't know when I'm gonna tell my Michelin stories ever again. So this felt like a good place to drop that in. No, absolutely fitting. I don't know if I've ever had him. I don't know if I've ever I want to eat an Michelin star. His French laundry is one, right? It is. Yeah. I mean, they're, they're, they're a bunch that are just like in LA. Like,

I have definitely eaten an Michelin star restaurant in LA. I'm sure them are what they were there. And there's like, you go to like Chicago. It's a lot of times like the big restaurant that people talk about. If you look it up, that has like two Michelin stars. So like, I'm just gonna probably eat in it some. Maybe you didn't know it. Next up is Lazy Bear in San Francisco. There's a two star restaurant.

Dry aged beef tartar, broccoli, Brussels Crout, and an allium pancake. I'm already in. Wait, start again, I'm sorry to do that to you. No worries, dry aged beef tartar, broccoli, Brussels Crout, not Brussels Crout. I'll leave Pancake. I guess if anyone wants to say when they're in,

feel free to do so, we can add that in. Seafood Tower, this is Foxley Oyster Base Gallup, Dutch and Australian. Pork Chop with Quince Apple and Pink Pepper Corn. I'm out, I pink peppercorn. I'm out. I don't need pork. And finally, honey cake, used to cream, camel meal, creme, anglaise.

I'll take the tires. It sounds like you guys are good with them. But couldn't you eat other stuff besides the pork? I think the exercise is you gotta take all four items or all four tires. That's the way I interpret it. I don't know that. I mean, I don't fucking know.

I don't know. You don't need pork at all, ever? I've stopped eating pork. Yeah, yeah. I used to. No bacon. No, I honestly don't miss bacon. What I miss is an Italian sub.

That's the one thing where it's like, I can't really get a recreation of that. Yeah. That sucks. That sucks. All right, final. You do it with like turkey or something, you know what I mean? That's the sense of the thing.

You can't get, because it's all those fucking, I was trying to brainstorm. No, I appreciate it. It's not, it's just tough to approximate. I finally the clove club. This is also in London, two stars. A smoke wheelchair trout, almond milk and watercress,

the prototion, a scretzia, a setzia, caviar, a vial sweetbread baked in hay. Wow, Bay leaf brown butter, sorrel and apple sauce. I'm in at this point, because that's intriguing. Hazelwood grilled Pollock. Superior sauce. And why does Sparigus, that sounds good too.

This is a good, you're wearing a robe like a knee belt. This is a bum sorbet and sheep's milk yogurt. Yeah, I'm, I don't want to be a goat, now you don't be a goat, because they got sheep's milk yogurt. That's a good, yeah. Yeah, am I eating here? Am I, or am I delivering the food?

I mean, I'm in all four meals. I'm in. Yeah, this sounds fun. Yeah, I'm into that. And that's it. That was the Michelin man. Just like a restaurant via feedback, let's open up the feedback.

And we actually, Mitch, have a piece of physical male that came into the head gum studio. I thought we could open it. I'm gonna say one thing. I am a just tires guy. I have a deal with them. So Michelin they do provide they do offer Michelin tires, right? Yeah, yeah Lot of great brands out there. I think he's I got a pinkies on on Melrose a great spot This got shipped to us from Alma. I won't dox the last name in Madison, Wisconsin. So we're gonna open this in a second,

but I'm going to read the question that we got into the email first and then we'll unbox this. Do you feel bad when we have a good guest and we do like one of those games? Don't you feel bad about the show? I do games on office hours all the time. Yeah. That's what the show is.

I know, I just feel bad. I did this game with Mark Proch on the show, on office hours all the time. Yeah, that's what the show is. I know, I just feel bad. I did this game with Mark Proch on the show on office hours that we recorded today. And I love fucking with Mark Proch more than anything. I mean, that's our love language. You know what I mean? Like, he loves the abuse. That's how we joke around.

Yeah. It was me kind of giving him shit. We're out of no for no reason. So the game I came up with was Mark Mark's Mark Proach truer false and it's the dumbest simplest like comedy game where I just wrote a bunch of lies like Mark masturbated this morning. True. Mark. Mark my favorite dumb one was my favorite Mark's favorite actor is Howard Stern. True. And he's sitting there, but like, no, it's not. I don't know what you're talking about.

It is. There's so much fun so silly. Good bit. All right, this is a, this is a email from Tibo. Tibo writes, huge fan of the podcast listening all the way from Paris, France. Wow. I'm planning a trip to London in a few days

and must admit one of the big reasons for going there is to go to Taco Bell and have a crunch wrap to play a huge favor to mine when I studied in California. We imagine two. A big deal for somebody in Paris to go to London, either by the way. It's like from us going to San Francisco or something.

Yeah, you can take the train pretty easy, right? You can take the tunnel, right? I'm in Treesham, I loved to ride that. You never, oh, you never been over. No, I've never crossed a notion. I've never crossed a notion. I've never crossed a notion. What would be a fast food item that you would travel a long way for if it wasn't available near you and have you ever shamefully done it?

Thanks for everything. I'd love to see you do a show in London, but I know why I should never make it. Tibo, I know it's hard but we're not. It's like Tibo, how about that? Okay, so I think, Mitch, I think this qualifies that something we've done for the podcast, which is.

I'm a shook. Which is waffle house. Waffle we've done for the podcast, which is... Sammy Schuch. Which is Waffle House. Waffle House. Yeah, Waffle House, which there aren't any around here, and we did travel, we traveled for a show, but I would like go out of my way for a Waffle House if I was in another territory, because I had a great time at Waffle House.

It's a funny thing with like, I mean, anytime I go down to San Diego, I go to Juanitas, in Ansonitas, and that's a little out of the way. But like, is this like, like, hey, I want to go to Waffle House on like a Saturday or Sunday Wags, is that what you're saying? No, no, no, why did you get that from? I was saying like, in LA, like, you're like, oh, I'm gonna go to this rest, like, I guess

I'm trying to figure out how far of a ride you're taking. Oh, you're saying a day trip. Yeah, I mean, as far as day trips go for the podcast. I go to Pine Burger and, yeah, that's a little bit of a haul. That's a pass it, you know? That's down the street for me. Yeah. Not to dox myself, but that's not too far.

I mean, I'm close to Pasadena. You're pretty close to Pasadena too. I'm not too far to, I'm not so far. I would say the go to the Apple Pan is more of a big deal for me. Yeah, that's a stone's throw for me. That's a haul. Yeah. Like that's a commitment to go to,

what is that Culver city or something? It's a West LA, like, yeah. That's what I was asking is like, how far are we talking here? Because in LA, it's like, in our drive, I feel like it's looking at me. Yeah, she really is. I would say in one that I like to go,

that would be a bit of a trip is like Neptune's net. Okay, yeah. But that involves like going to the beach. Like if I'm gonna, oh, let's go to the beach. All right, let's make it, let's go to Neptune's net and have like some fun fried fish, which I can get at fish king down the street.

That's, that's in my mind, right? That's in my mind, right? An hour drive is like, this is what we're saying is like, what fast food place it's like. And hour or nine. That's a flight. That's a flight.

We can't go to, if we're saying it's a day trip, which the question is not specified, but if we're changing it to a day trip, then yes, I could not make it to, Jimmy's fucking looking at me. Jimmy's like, you're a ghost, don't I, you're in a box in Path of Couch, you might get up there and say with you.

I don't think she's gonna kill it. She lied down. She lied down, she's not interested. If you're saying it's a day trip, then like, I don't know. I mean, we went to steak and shake. We went to steak and shake and Victorville. That was a big, that was a big trip. That's a big trip. Yeah. I think some friends were like, hey, what's the biggest for Chili's too? We did go to Vegas for Chili's too. We did go to Vegas for Chili's too.

What's Chili's too? It's the airport Chili's is, it's Chili's comma too. Right. Yeah. With Eva Anderson, it was, we didn't leave the airport. We were going to Vegas. We just, it was hard. We were going to Vegas for Chili's too. We did go to Vegas for Chili's too. It's the airport Chili's is Chili's comma to right. Yeah with Eva Anderson. It was it we didn't leave the airport

We were going to Vegas. We just was horrible. I think Ev Anderson's can I related to Stuart Anderson make that connection You should ask her. I think that that it's a Fucking in terms of then then what I can think of in terms of place. I've gone on my own is like the Gulf Stream and Newport Beach. That's a fucking ways away. But we've gone down there just to eat there. And that's in the Hillsstone family of restaurants. There's seafood concept. There used to be one in Century City, but now the Newport Beach one is the closest.

But Waffle House, Waffle House like an hour or a half away, I think I couldn't would maybe if I was down to go some friends. I think that's like Waffle is like an hour, an hour and a half away. I think I could, maybe if I was down to go some friends. I think that's like waffle house. You're just changing the question. Now the question has been. Cracker barrel. Cracker barrel. Cracker crack, we did, we drove for crack.

We did do about a two-hour drive for cracker barrel. Yeah, and that was a lot of fun. But the question isn't, what's the furthest you would go for a food like hypothetically, it's what's the item you would travel for. Oh, right. You know what I wanted to do? I wanted to do like Mr. Anderson, like with the black ink.

I don't know what it would be. Oh, that's fun. But like, yeah, I like your steak. There's a steak connection too, yeah. Mitch, that's a great like starting point for something. It's a hard question to answer though, because the Mr. Anderson one or... Everything that you want is available. It's something I'm trying to think of something

that's not that available. Right, it used to be, well, even a chain like Duncan Donuts that has gone national now used to be a regional. So if a cheesy-gore-eater crunch was only an hour away, I would drive for it. That to me is cheesy-gore-eater crunch, spicy chicken sandwich from Wendy's.

I would drive, if they didn't exist in my neck of the woods, there would be times where I'm like, I need to go get a cheesy-guarded eat-a-crunch and I'd drive an hour. I probably feel that way about in an outburst. I guess the answer is everything. The answer is probably everything. Sure, everything. Everything is answered.

Well, food is sometimes a great reason to travel. Yeah. A good point. Here's what we got in the mail. Hi, doughboys. I was born in Yugoslavia, and now I visit Sarajevo annually where the local food, like Chivapi,

would knock your socks off. I found these minion-themed chocolate croissants at that gas station. Copyright is meaningless in the Balkans, but these seem legitimate. They also contain pugs, I think. Wow, that's one. I i'll be enjoy them and sorry if they're a little smashed respectfully all my in the midwest currently

uh... and uh... freedom is a private message in the back that's very nice all my sure if we want i mean no pressure these are the uh... i thought they're hot dogs they're chippy cow they do look like hot dogs with their croissants with cocoa filling yummy and uh... there's a little minion on there. And from his, oh, we got different minions on each one. We got steward on that one. And then we hear from the different colored eyes. What do you call that? Heterokroma? Um, it would, I don't know the names of the minions at

all. I think one is my house almost constantly. I think one is named Heterokroma. This is Bob. But he's got the two different colored his name, Herocroma. This is Bob. But he's got the two different colored eyes. Herocromia, you're right. Herocromia, I mispronounced it. So here you go, I'll just pass these over. There's just two of them, but you all can feel free to dig in. Oh, thank you.

I wanna find out who thought I was a vegan. I, I will find that out. Thank you, I'm sorry. Really, look, look at that. That looks like a hot dog. It really looks like a hot dog. It, looks a lot like a hot dog. are they two different for idols or they just have different minions

i think they're the same thing right i can say this you know there's the same thing this came all the way from where's cerevo cerevo chibi cow how do you like that i mean you don't have to try to get out of that i'll take a bite of why girl looks like he's not gonna try it no i'm one hundred percent gonna try i'm just thinking you and i could share if agent Smith took uh neo to black angus I mean wait

fuck what dragon if agent Smith took Joey pants yes to black angus the matrix would never happen because he that's that steak he would have worked it oh thanks buddy that does not look good. Does that look like a good good. It's a little smushed. It definitely seems like it. I'm still trying to work on my matrix thing over here. I think that. Oh, I know this is a hotdog bun with chocolate in it. Oh, there's a there's a there's a there's a there's a

pagan here. Yeah, there are pogs in here. This one's gotten oh my god. Could not be more of my alley. We got minions playing basketball. They're doing a popper shot. How fun is that? That's bonus When you just get the bun Let me tell you fun is iffy Agent Smith gave me this and try to have me turn my back on neo It's not gonna happen. Yeah, I don't think I need to finish this I'm gonna finish mine, but I don't know if I love it.

I think the chocolate's pretty good. So I just put it in my mouth. You can put it out of the container. So I throw it away in my mouth. You can toss it in the bag. I'll say this, the chocolate's gooier than I thought. Yeah, it's not a weird aftertaste. Everything about it is not sitting well.

Well, it's it. I'm sure I feel about this. Well, here's a Tim died for a moment. The thing is, is that it tastes like bread that could last forever, which is that to me is, that's not fun. But it weirdly tastes like better than like a hostess snack. I don't think so.

Interesting. A higher quality. Maybe better than a bimbi snack. Sure. Bimbo? Bimbo. Bimbo, right? Bimbi is the waitress.

Bimbi is the waitress. Bimbo is the not hostess knockoff. Here's the issues that this is a croissant and it's like not flaky at all. It is just a hot dog bun texture. Like you said. So it is, it's, why is I think it's fun? and it's like not flaky at all, it is just a hot dog bun texture. Like you said. So it is, it's,

why is I think it's hot? I don't like the taste of the chocolate. I think that's the taste, the chocolate's off. It's like kind of fruity or something. I know, Emma's staring us down too because it's a bun that's filled with chocolate. Yeah, the first time with a dog in the studio, we're tasting chocolate.

Yeah, really. Some of. I think I gotta go whack on this one. I do appreciate it, Alma. That's very, very nice of you to ship this off studio and we're tasting chocolate. Yeah, really. I love. I think I got to go whack on this one. I do appreciate it, Alma. It's very, very nice of you to ship this all the way over. Alma, that's, I mean, what a sweet gesture. Yeah. Doesn't seem, I don't, I have a feeling

Alma is not precious about it. Right. Probably just bought this at the store because that amignia not. She was, she was like genuinely upset and sad that you didn't like it. She's crying. She traveled there to get these for us. Yeah, I think that's a whack for me too. Yeah, I think it's unfortunately a while.

But, you know what I'll say this? I'll say that the chocolate, oh shit, sorry, I almost got on you. The chocolate, you just got on me. You got what? That's like, spin drift, which is not gonna make it different. Okay. The actual chocolate was like, it was too gushy for me, but the actual taste of the chocolate,

you could tell that it was like a better chocolate than we get here. I don't feel that way, but that's okay. But that's okay. It's Trump, you know what I'm saying? That's okay. It is a whack. If I have to say snack or rock.

What's the other option? Sn it's a it is a whack. That's why I have to say it's not what the other out what's the options? Max or whack. Yes, why? If you have a question to come around the world of chain rest of the Cheeine Melisid, don't waste podcast to Gmail.com or leave us a voice mail. 8300 go do that's 8300 4636844. You think my mr. Anderson?

Do I think I got that across at some point? I didn't get the reference. It'd be nice if you'd figured out how to land it before. Oh, okay, I haven't seen the Matrix and maybe since it came out. And it's fucking great. I bet really holds up. It's cool.

You see the new one? Do you see part four? No. Oh man, I loved it. It's fun. Yeah. I don't know if you'll like it, but it's fun. You might not like it.

I love it. I would. Was that how would you know I would like it? I don't know. I don't know. What if he's like, I know you're gonna like it. I want to say this, it was the 10 year anniversary of the birthday boys yesterday, the 10 years since it produced. And our guest was one of the producers of the show.

He made that a possibility for my sketch group. Great sketch. And it was also one of the funniest people in the world and we're so it was an honor having you on the podcast. So much. Sorry I was nervous. No, you did great. This was a way to spend a couple hours so easy and fun and thanks for making time for

us. It's really that we hate it so much. To get the Doboy's Double or Weekly bonus episode you can join the Golden or Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash doughboys Tim Heidecker. Thanks so much for being here. I'm real treat. Do you have anything you'd like to plug? Uh, just, uh, where your office hours is going strong?

Oh, man. Mitch just did it and we had Larry Charles and all sorts of fun people on. That's on Patreon. I love, I mean, Patreon is the new adult swim. Oh, I wonder, yeah. It's where the independent people are doing good stuff and when he goes right to making stuff.

So we're at patreon.com slash office hours live. And you can watch the show on YouTube too. It's on YouTube. First, the free half is on YouTube. We do similar things. I believe in paywalls. Yeah, 100%. It's like, that's, you that's pay for the good stuff.

This is a little tangent. Can I give a little tangent? Of course. I think this is kind of an option. I post dumb stuff on Instagram, whatever. Mostly it's promotional. It's like here, I'm doing this thing, come see it. I'm not an Instagram content creator.

But sometimes I'll do something dumb. I post it something kind of political, but this guy Tim Poole is this right wing. Oh, I know that guy. He said something stupid. I kind of clipped it out, put it up, whatever. It's garbage. It's not something I take somebody wrote.

Is this what your Insta has turned into? Something to the effect of like, I'm letting him down with the content on Instagram. I'm like, this is, I'm literally sitting on a toilet taking a shit. And this is what I do the past the time. I don't care about any of this. But I care about the stuff,

if I'm charging you money or I'm asking for money, it's the stuff we generally care about. On cinema is also behind the paywall at highnetwork.tv, HEI network. And, you know, it's amazing. People pay for it and we make stuff and you can see it. It's very simple. There's no garbage on it.

Oh man, it's the funniest stuff. I also, Larry Charles and following me and then Larry Charles is like, I know. Shack and then before it is like, Erkel, Erkel, the Shack. Old Charles is a sweetheart and he was lovely and he's so interesting to talk to and so smart. I did the podcast James Bonding Live

and there was me and another guest and I didn't know who the other guest was and it was Larry Miller. Oh wow. But that was the same sort of feeling of like Larry Miller and Nick Wiker. Yeah. Hi.

And he's a nice guy too. He's lovely. He's really funny and nice. Very funny. Happy, you know, humble guy. We're having Tim Poole on Do-Boys. Yeah, Tim Monk. Contember.

Tim Timber. Hey, that'll do it for this episode of Do-Boys. No next time for the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Wiker. Happy. See ya. Hey, buddy, it's Wigger. Breaking Chuse.

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