Doughboys - Goop Kitchen with Luke Del Tredici

Episode Date: February 1, 2024

Luke Del Tredici (@ldeltredici, Killing It) joins the 'boys to talk Italy, Boston, and snakes before a review of Goop Kitchen. Plus, another edition of Fake Chews. Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at doughboys.kinshipgoods.comAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro: https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/11/caruso-enters-los-angeles-mayors-race-00008420https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/oct/20/los-angeles-mayor-candidate-rick-caruso-campaign-spending-80-millionSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is a headgum podcast. His names are all trademarked, and if you don't recognize the outlier, it's because it's not Rick Caruso's talent that gave his name value, it's his empire of SoCal malls. Jump started by the financial patronage of his father, the founder of Dollar Renekar, a young Rick Caruso grew from being a mere multi-millionaire into a billionaire via an ever-expanding real estate portfolio. In 2002, he opened his signature property, Outdoor Shopping Center The Grove, a corporate-ish simulacrum of a walkable neighborhood

with varied building architecture and a superfluous trolley, redefining the idea of the American Shopping Mall. The Grove was followed by a series of similar developments like the Americana at Brand and Palisades Village, targeted at moneyed Angelinos willing to pay exorbitant parking fees to choose between multiple yoga stores, and Caruso's money and influence made him something of a kingmaker in local politics. And in his eyes, who better to be a king than Caruso, TM himself?

In February 2022, the lifelong Republican launched his quicksotic mayoral run as a Democrat, using his own war chest to blanket the city with campaign ads advocating for more cops and a small business bill of rights, and heavily leaning on his backing from celebrities. And so, in May of 2022, the Rick Caruso for Mayor of Los Angeles campaign released an endorsement ad from Academy Award-winning actor and New Age scam goddess Gwyneth Paltrow. While Paltrow's endorsement was vague, Caruso's steadfast support within the city's elite seems rooted in what was once called limousine liberalism and perhaps now more accurately, Tesla liberalism, an outward championing of optics-friendly ideals like diversity and

inclusion, but whose actual priorities are increasing their home valuations and decreasing their tax burdens. But while there may be more than enough rich residents to patronize Caruso's shopping centers, there were not enough to stuff the ballot boxes, and he lost in the runoff after spending by some reports over 80 million dollars of his own money. As for Paltrow, her own retail empire of wellness tonics, crystals, and horny candles has survived being a punchline and vastly expanded its bottom line, adding a ghost kitchen around the time the Caruso campaign shit the bed. With a food program led by esteemed fine dining chef Kim Floresca, the offshoot now has five

outlets for takeout and delivery, serving the city's wealthiest and most exclusive zip codes, not coincidentally where Caruso voters clustered Because fortunately for Paltrow, Caruso and the rest of the city's richest the candidate who won the race current mayor Karen Bass Also sucks and the growing income striation that enables this ruinous new age Gilded Age continues unabated This week on Doughboys, Goop Kitchen. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger along with my co-host, David Lunch's Red Velvet, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell.

Instead of blue. David Lunch's critically acclaimed Red Velvet, thanks from Stevieroastedbirdfuck.com. Thanks Stevie, wow you used it from the Rose Piper. Was this, oh no, this is fake. You're lying. I'm saying that's the address to send it in, roastedbirdfuck.com. Yeah, but that wasn't from that one.

It probably came from the old pool of emails because of when we're recording this chronologically. Yeah, yeah. And your hair revealed, it's looking good today. Thanks, buddy. Are you a, I'm kind of hair twins with our guests, which we'll get to. Are you a David Lynch guy?

You like David Lynch? I'm a little, more than our guests, which we'll get to. Are you a David Lynch guy? You like David Lynch? More than our guests, you look a little more zone of interest-y, I guess you can say. Jesus Christ. I'm sorry. That's a good movie. That's a good movie. Yes, I want to be in a good movie. Wait, what did you ask me? Sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. That's good movie. I want to be in a good movie.

What did you ask me? Sorry. This is the kind of thing that would be going on in the zone of interest. Like two guys recording a podcast about Gwyneth Paltrow's chain of ghost kitchen. Atrocities. Yeah, stones throw away. Wait, what was your actual question? Sorry. David Lynch guy, I mean, Mulchall and Drive. Yeah, I like away What was your actual question? Sorry. Are you a David Lynch guy? I mean, I'm on drive movie Yeah, like I like Lynch quite a bit. Yeah

Um, did you were your fan of Twin Peaks? See this is the thing. I've never seen Twin Peaks Everybody's like gotta watch gotta watch Twin Peaks, but like just anytime. It's like a TV show. I got to commit to mm-hmm I'm uh, I don't know. It's just a big. That's a big thing. Yeah. It's like it's much bigger than watching a movie. I'm much more light, it's part of the reason I'm a bigger movie guy than a TV guy. I think you'd like it a lot, I think you should watch it. I've heard good things, I'm sure I would love it, but I've never seen it. Start with the movie. I have seen the movie, that's the only thing I've seen is Twin Peaks Firewalk with me.

You know what's funny, I haven't seen the movie. Good movie. Oh, that's great. I gotta watch the movie. Good movie. Anyway. Yeah. Uh, Happy Monday, Wigs. Happy Monday, Mitch. I gotta watch the movie good movie anyway, yeah

Happy Monday why happy Monday Mitch Shirley Manson is somewhere Smiling ear to ear because it is a rainy day here in LA. I got myself of the China sweatshirt Very cool. Did you not notice that when I came I did see it. Yeah, you've been there. This is they this is a restaurant This is a bar in Quincy, Massachusetts. I've been to the China Yeah, I bought one when I was back there. I did a thing that was like stupid. You know how you get like people a round of drinks? Yeah. I was like, everyone, I'll get you a sweatshirt.

So I bought like four sweatshirts, five sweatshirts. That's fun. No, it was stupid. It was so much money. I didn't realize it. It was a lot to do. If you buy like the shirt or the, any of the apparel you buy at the restaurant,

it's always like vastly inflated. I remember I bought a hat at Ruby Snap, which I still wear. This was a cookie restaurant in Salt Lake City we went to on tour and it was like $30. Like this is absurd. $30 for a hat. Yeah. Yeah. You haven't said that since Kevin. Was that what it was? Was the Kevin James pop-up movie? It was movies, right? It wasn't the Kevin James pop-up, I'd love to have a Kevin James pop-up. Let's just have a Hitchburger, why not? Oh shit, Kevin, what's his name? The other fat, Kevin.

Kevin Smith. Kevin Smith. Yeah, they both look great. Yeah, I think he is skinny now. He did, he lost a lot of weight. That was movies, the movies burger was, or the chicken sandwich. Oh, was the food that was $30?

Yeah, the food was $30 absurd. Wasn't there wasn't there Kevin Smith's crews we were we were gonna do the the the yeah the view of SKU crews. We're not gonna do it but I was just saying like wouldn't it be funny if we did do it? It would be fun and I think we should do it. We're not gonna do it. All right. Not gonna get on a cruise ship. Uh what we are gonna do Mitch is you're gonna play your drop and then we get a little bit of business. Oh, we're okay. your okay. I know you're gonna do the business first.

Let's play the drop and then we'll get to our business. How the hell does Spoo Nation, Emma hit him with a drop? I mean I kind of did my own drops just by singing. I'm gonna be a really bad day. That sounds like you're doing an, like an Adam Sandler impression. That was fun, good job. A couple things. One, we've just been notified about copyright stuff.

We got an email from Anya here at Head Gum. And that was like the most- We gotta be conscious of copyright on- That was basically when the levy breaks. It was one of those, it was. It was like a, it was one of those emails that like, we like, is like, hey, this is for everybody. But it's just like, hey, just so you know,

like the toilets at Head Gum clog easily, you know, just telling all the podcasts that record at Head Gum. They should know that. It was the same sort of email that we had to be conscious of copyright So if you are submitting a drop out there to drops at bird fuck calm royalty free is a way you could get to the top of the stack I think it's also fair use because it's parody and you're reinterpreting Keep the drop short which helps it to be, even to begin with.

He doesn't like the drops. He was hoping that you'd- I love the drops. I'm saying like, keep them short, and that, which helps both sides of the issue. We're not taking up too much time with the drop, but then also we are not gonna run in a foul of copyright lawyers.

I've done myself a disservice because one of the levee breaks, a nice song by Led Zeppelin. Yeah. It's my alarm. So like when I hear it, you know. Got a negative association with it. Except I do do the like, I do the wake up alarm. You know how Apple has like a,

it's like, do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. You know that little song? Copyrighted. Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. That song, someone just, what's in lay a joke over that or something if we can when I was singing it. That, oh, it's gonna be a bad joke, I'm realizing. That's the song that wakes me up now. And it doesn't bother me. They do a good job with it because it's a nice light song that you hear. As far as drop material goes, we

gotta get to some business first. Yes, yeah. But I was looking at- Wait, did you hear who set that in? Okay. Hey Mitch, Nick, DK, Emma, and Amelia. Here's a little drop featuring Mitch's vocals from way back on the Andrew T episode in 2019. Wow. I had to adjust the tempo- So we did the Popeye's Chicken Sandwich. That is when we did the Popeye's Chicken Sandwich, I think. I think.

I have no idea, I don't remember. I had to adjust the tempo a little bit, but otherwise, I think Mitch's rendition is pretty good, wishing you all a great 2024. Steve in Ontario, Canada, Professor Steve on the Doe Score, do I? Thanks, Steve. Do you think he's an actual professor,

is that Stolen Valor? There's no fucking way. He's on the Doe Score, do you think he's an actual professor? Is that Stolen Valor? There's no fucking way. He's on the Doe score? Do you think he's an actual professor? Maybe his wife's a professor. Yeah, his wife is probably a professor. He uses that title. Yeah, it makes me a professor too.

Cause my wife is one. Oh man. You've got a lot of the Doe score. Is it married? Surprising. I think surprisingly, yes. Surprising amount of our Discord server is married. Makes me feel pretty.

Much more successful spouses. I was gonna say Emma also was just holding up. She's gone full mitt, she was just holding up the thing from her phone. She was playing the drop from her phone. There's something happening on my laptop that would have affected the audio if I put it in her computer.

It worked out great. It sounded great, we heard it. I liked it, I liked that you were pulling a match. Maybe I'll keep doing it. I found something, I was looking at dead, you should keep doing it, I was looking at dead cats, my dead cats. I wasn't looking at them dead.

I was looking at my cats from the past. They're dead now. Remembering cats that you've loved and pet. Zip and buster, yes. I was having an emotional thing last night and I found a video of me and I actually lived in LA at this time, but I wanna play it for you after we get to business

because it's insane. It's a video of you with Buster? Yes, but it's about my voice. Do you have it queued up? I mean, I can get it queued up. Do you wanna send it to me? Do you wanna do it now? No, let's do it later, but like send it up

and we can get it on the big screen so we can all watch it. Okay, well, you don't have to, the video isn't as important as much as the sound is. So I'm gonna pull a Mitch. Okay. But once you hear it. Well then just play it now.

But it's about how I sound. And it actually like blew me away a little bit. Your voice was probably a different pitch. Is that what we're, or we should just hear it. Yeah. Okay. Here we go. Here, this is it. Watch that. Watch that.

Come here. Come here. That might be it. I sound like Peter Griffin. I was going to say your Boston accent is so strong. Come here. You sound very Boston and much more higher pitched. I sound like Peter Griffin.

You do sound very Peter Griffin-esque. I used to sound like Peter Griffin. I thought it was crazy. I guess you don't give a shit. No, I'm just like, yeah, you kind of say, I mean, I've heard your accent come out though in different contexts. I said it up, it's too big.

You said it up like it was gonna be a bigger thing than it was. I thought it was pretty big, I sound like a different person. But we, I just, it wasn't, there wasn't much substance to the clip is the thing. I think you kind of oversold a little bit. Basha, come here, that's what I sound like.

Basha. I sound like a fucking different guy. Basha, come here. Basha, come here. Basha, come here. That's what I sound like. Bust it. I sound like a fucking different man. Bust it, come here. Bust it, come here. Bust it, come here. Lois, bust is not coming. I sound like Peter Griffin. You don't care that much.

No, I liked it. Is it possible the cat knew you from back then and you were trying to sort of like Oh yeah. Show that you hadn't changed? I did live in LA at that point, which I think is the crazy thing about it. And I think maybe I was back in Quincy.

That's what it is. Because when I've been with you in Quincy, and when you've been around your friends and family, the accent comes out, you code switch a little bit. I don't sound like that though. Anyways, let's enter. Look, I said to do it after this poor guy who's sitting here waiting for us to introduce him.

Yeah, it's good. This is gonna work out great because our special guest we have before we get to our actual guest for this episode, who's also being very patient with us, is our Doughboys ad Chad Killian. Congratulations Killian, great to talk with you. Thank you, Weiger.

Thank you, Mitch. I really appreciate the recognition. Wow. I just went out and bought my partner a fine pocket watch as a present. So I'm really excited to see what she's gonna do with it. Wow. I love that.

Is that a gift of the Magi reference? No, I don't know what you're talking about. It's coming to me never. We have to ask because we tried to drill it down. I guess Alan Tudyk, who is the headshot in your background on your tableau here? So that is an autographed picture of Pat Sajak. Pat Sajak?

Yeah, I did come into possession of this. I didn't seek it out on my own. This was given to me. Supervisor of mine was leaving their office very quickly. They had gotten a job offer and they're just like, I'm out of here. I'm gone. And they just handed me a manila envelope, asked me to check what was in there. I opened it and it was that. And she let me keep it. So there it remains on my wall. And I think the thing he even signed is kind of mean. It's like

great attention span or something. Is it to you or is it generic? It's a generic one. It's one of a thousand, I'm sure. You don't just because we're making you part of the Doughboys brand, you don't agree with Pat Sajak's politics, right? Only one part of them, but I'm not going to clarify what that is. That's for you. Our guest did guess that it was Bill Ma,

which didn't make us nervous. You thought this was club random? No, no, no. The Maher's in the bathroom. That's for ya. Well, congratulations on being Ad Shad. Also Tisk Tisk, three other people aren't Ad Shad, and that's kind of your fault as well.

Yeah, you feel guilty for should feel guilty for that. Heavy as the head that wears the crown and all that. They do a Highlander thing, they got it. That's all insane. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha for the month of February, you will be doing that all month long. So we're very, very thrilled to have you. Congratulations. Congrats. And great pipes, buddy. Yeah. Thank you, thank you.

And have a great episode, everyone. Thank you, thank you, bud. Thanks, thanks, Killian. It's gonna be bad, but. It's gonna be bad. Not because of our guests, because of us. Thank you, Killian. Started off with a buster bullshit.

Hey, Mitch, from Killian to Killing It. Wow. On Peacock, our guest today, Luke Deltredici. Hi Luke, thanks so much for being here. Hey, thank you guys. Thanks for being here. I really appreciate this. Yeah, thank you for being here.

We were clarifying your last name pronunciation before we started because I've heard it a few different ways. And the way you said for us is that your name rhymes with cheddar cheese. Deltredici, yeah. It's that's- Del with cheddar cheese. Del cheddar cheese, yeah. It's, that's- Del cheddar cheese. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. The, it's the problem is that it, it should, trade-a-chea means 13 in Italian. Wow. Yeah, the name means other 13. We, that there's a clear right way to pronounce it and it's not the way my family chooses to pronounce it.

And it's like a fight I have a lot with my wife as to whether or not I can be mispronouncing my own name or not. And she's like insistent that I am and I feel like that sucks of her. But you know, we choose- That's the Quincy experience for me because we say Quincy and everyone's like Quincy.

But the Quincy family, I mean, like the Quinzies supposedly, and you guys know, we know, we know, we get it. I think you can say your own name however you want. We give people the leeway to say their own name and also to call themselves whatever they want. We just go along with that. Interestingly, like, so my wife has now spent 11 years working on my, I have twin daughters who are 11

and she's, they have the last name and she's committed to getting them to say it in a different way than it's always been said in the family. Oh my God. And so it's really like there's tension, a little bit of like jockeying back and forth. That's very funny. It all feels very disrespectful. Our buddy Ryan Stanger of the Great Action Boys podcast, and we're in their merch today, which is why I'm thinking of it,

but he says his name Stanger and people call him Stanger, but apparently a lot of his family says Stanger, like Danger. Yeah, Stanger, yeah, that was a crazy reveal. He just chose to go in a different direction? I don't know how much of an incident he's going. He never really corrects people, I think he just doesn't correct people. I think it's what the deal is.

Which I feel like you also don't. Like, right, you kind of laugh at us. Yeah, because people can't pronounce it anyway, so there's no point in it, but. I haven't tried. I don't know if you notice, I've never tried. I always wonder if my name shows up on a TV show or whatever, how, I feel like people picture Mario

or something, you know? Like, right. It's so, it's so, I went the other day to it. In Highland Park in Los Angeles, there's this thing called the Garabaldina Society. It's an Italian social club and a friend of mine invited me and I think they saw my name on the roster and were very excited to like for me to show up and essentially be a 75 year old, you know, Italian man hunched over a

suit and I really let a lot of people down and they want to talk to me about Italy and it's just there's I have nothing. Well the name is very, so it means of the 13 or 13? It means of the 13. What? It means of the 13. What is that? What the hell does that mean? Is it like a regal? 13 apostles?

I think there's two things I've heard. One was like my great grandmother was an orphan, was like dropped off at, like was like found on the street or something. And there was some sense that she might've been on like, they didn't bother giving the orphans names. She was just the 13th bed, but that seems crazy. There's no way that's true. That's didn't bother giving the orphans names. She was just the 13th bed, but that seems crazy. There's no way that's true.

That's like, they gave the orphans names. Like, it would be insane to raise a child to 18 and have them be like, still just give them a number. I think that they were towns maybe outside of Rome, didn't always have names and were sort of numbered by the town that they were outside of Rome. But even that seems false, because I think then there'd be more, there'd be more like of the ninth, of the eighth, and there doesn't seem to be a lot of that.

I now, I give Italians a hard time on the podcast. We've heard this. But a beautiful, beautiful country. Have you have you visited? Actually, I believe it. I saw you at LAX. Were you coming from Italy? I was coming from France. France. Okay. Yeah, that's true. We did run into each other at LAX. Yes, I've been to Italy. So you're right. It's a wonderful country. It's a really great point. A good observation.

It's a really nice country. I give it a hard time. And a lot of people, you know, obviously disagree with you. A lot of people hate Italy. Yeah, everyone is just, no, I have no connection to Italy at all. It's like, the name is the only Italian thing about me. And it's, you don't have sauce. You don't have a Sunday sauce or a gravy.

Like no one in your family did that or anything like that. My grandmother was like, my grandfather who was the only Italian, real Italian member died when I was very, very little. So I only knew my grandmother, so she was German. So like all of our like, all of our family dishes are sort of German actually inspired

and then like occasionally a tomato thrown in, but it's really not, there's nothing. Yeah. And I'm from Boston, but it was like all, I feel like I only knew Irish people. Yeah. Which is, you know, that's mostly what's there. Yeah.

There were a lot of Italian somewhere, but not in like my town. The North End. Wow, you've been to the North End. I've been to the North End, yeah, I know the North End. I wanna ask you about Italy and food a little bit because here's the other thing I think people say about Italy, great food country.

Do you have any food memories? It feels like you're kinda making fun of my thing. No, I'm just saying, it's an observation some people have had. Any food memories from going to Italy? From Italy, yeah. The food's fine, I don't know. I, I, I, this is crazy,

are we supposed to be talking about Italy this much? I didn't prep. It was good, the pasta was really good, you know? I mean, what do you think of Italian politics? Because we love Berlusconi here. Yes. Yeah, he's great.

It seems great. I think it's remarkable how little I know about Italian politics. They seem like I should know more, and I honestly couldn't tell you a thing about what's going on in Italy post-Burlusconi. They have like an overtly fascist president now. That's all I know. And then one last thing before we move out of Italy,

Pope ranking. How do you, how, Wags, I think I go first. You wanna rank all of them? I wanna, I mean, like your top three maybe. I think I go new Pope one, young Pope two. Okay. And then, uh, I don't know. The one of the two Popes?

Yeah, the one of the two Popes. I think it's like some recency bias entering there. You're kind of like forgetting like the Pope piouses of the world, but you know, that's fine. I feel like the two Popes maybe would make my mind. I mean, I know I could both be in the top three. They'd be in the top three just because of the movie. I don't think they're not great guys.

But would you give them one slot? Cause you know, sometimes people will be like, like I would put Godfather one and two where the Godfather trilogy is one slot in the sight and sound post poll. And I'm like, get the fuck out of here, pick one movie. I am gonna do that. The two popes get the slot in the first slot.

Exactly, kind of shit you would do. I wanna go back to your name because you got a Dell in it. And we don't encounter that often. We reviewed Dell Taco last week and the other big Dell brand, Dell Monte. Do you have any affection for Dell Taco or Dell Monte? And were you ever like eating Dell Taco or like, just a thing you could say like,

I'm more like Luke Del Taco. No, I've actually never had Del Taco. Wow. I know people like that's very upsetting. I feel no affinity to it. No, I'm not pissed. I'm just, I'm surprised. You guys like Del Taco more than?

He loves Del Taco. Yeah. I do love Del Taco. We had kind of a mid outing last week. Yeah, unfortunately. Just last week. Just last week's episode, yeah. You gave a fiveing last week. Yeah, unfortunately. Just last week. Just last week's episode, yeah. You gave a five forks still.

Yeah, I gave five forks. No, I do wonder if I'd grown up here with Del Taco's because they aren't on the East Coast if people would have made that connection for me and it would be a thing. Hey, but as it is, it's never come up. Wow. No one's ever said Luke Del Taco or Luke Del Monte.

You're the first, why? That's wild. Wow. I don't think I, I've gotta be honest. I can't say I've ever Luke Del Monte. You're the first, why? That's wild. Wow. I don't think I, I gotta be honest, I can't say I've ever had Del Monte, what, fruit cups? They're like, yeah, they're like canned fruits and vegetables. They're not very exciting. It's Del Monte, when I was in Costa Rica, they hate,

maybe they hate Dole, they might hate Dole. The company, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They hate like the, there is, the company's like evil. Right, whatever the fruit cabal was that like, you know, funded the totalitarian government or whatever that the country's tortured politics are. To go back to the Pope rankings,

does Father Guido Sarducci count as one of the Pope, can you put him in the Pope ranking? I think the issues with him are he's not a Pope. Yeah, yeah. He's like a big one. And then also like just fictional, I think is the other thing. Yeah, I guess that's the other one. Those are two strikes against him. Well, but several of the fictional I think is yeah, I guess that's

Well, but several of the other popes were fictional I guess the young pope and the new pope But this is also like your problem with lists there are sometimes where people are like We'll put a movie in a list of best TV shows or yeah, so put it I it, I don't know what father, was he anything? He was just a priest? He was a priest. It's his head turned around backwards in Casper, I believe. He's in Casper? He's in Casper for a second.

When I watch Guido. Wait, but he's playing the Guido Sarducci character in Casper. I have completely memory of this. When I think about Guido Sarducci, this is mean, should I say it? My first thought is like, was comedy much easier like 30 years ago?

I mean, I'm not doing a good job with comedy now anyway. But I'm saying like to be like, I'm an Italian priest guy, you know? I mean, I mean, I'm even more productive of what he is, I guess, but. I don't know the actor at all, but it's kind of amazing how much mileage he got out of that character. that he was just like a fiction

Like I remember seeing that guy on TV for like 20 years. Yeah, and just a guy playing a character of like an Italian priest There's nothing like that now right that like oh, yeah, we're like free-floating characters just pop from franchise to franchise or yeah Yeah, no, no, I can't really give it. I mean Larry the cable guy honestly Oh to franchise or yeah. Yeah, no, no, I can't really think of it. I mean like. Larry the Cable Guy honestly. Oh, cable, he was maybe the last one. And he plays like in every movie he's been in, the character's been named Larry, except for the Cars movies. I always think when I hear anything about

Larry the Cable Guy, my wife, like, she lived in France for a while and she's from Los Angeles, but she had like moved to France for a good long period. And during that time, this sort of blue collar comedy tour thing had happened, and Larry the Cable Guy had become a success, and then she moved back from France, right as the movie,

Larry the Cable Guy Health Inspector was coming out, but she didn't have the frame of reference to know that his name was Larry the Cable Guy, and that title, she was like, couldn't figure out what the movie was possibly gonna have. The title, Larry the Cable Guy, how did Spectre, if you don't know that that's his name, I think about that all the time of like,

just staring at the poster trying to figure out what the premise of the movie could possibly be. A guy who has two jobs, right? There's a great Larry the Cable Guy clip where he's talking about cars. Oh, yeah, he gets emotional. He gets emotional. And now it's like on TikTok with like sentimental music behind it.

But is he like, are we supposed to like, do we like him now? As he had like a, actually, there's something noble about him, like Guy Fieri style. I don't know. I don't know anything about him. I think yes. I think the answer is yes. I think you can, I think he seems very human in that moment because he's talking about like,

wow, this is what you still rarely see someone grapple with like what did it feels like to have success. And it's just, and having like true gratefulness for that. You know? So I think that that clip is very humanizing. I don't know anything about him as a man, you know? I've never enjoyed any of his- And Whitney, I think is the actor.

Content, but I've never seen cars. And I know that you really like Cars. You should get to watch Cars. Are you really like Cars? I don't know if I love Cars, but I think they're like fun movies. If you were to guess Nick's age based off his favorite restaurant is Del Paco when he loves Cars.

And the Minions. And the Minions. Cars 3 star, Cruz Ramirez. Yes, we had on the podcast. We had on the show, Cristella from Cristella. Let's talk a little bit about Boston, because you are from Boston. Oh yeah.

So. Yeah, baby. First off, and- You better not treat us like Italy, you like Boston, right? I mean, I really don't like Boston. No! It's not a great play. I'm not, look, I'm not from Boston proper. I'm from Watertown, which is like a sort of nothing suburb. I think Watertown is like a weird,

it's sandwiched in between Newton, Cambridge, Belmont, these sort of fancier suburbs. And we always felt more working class, but we're not like Boston, the town working class or Quincy, like where we get to sort of like, I don't know, luxuriate in the sort of self-mythologizing about working class Boston tough guys. We were just sort of like a shitty, a shitty sad place without any remarkable features, except for like, there was an armory that made munitions for the military

until I was in high school. And now it's a mall. Interesting. Why is it called Watertown? On the river. Oh. Yeah. It's how you know.

Makes sense, tracks. Yeah. The same thing happened to the, you know, there used to be a naval base in Long Beach and when they did all those base closures, like that got turned into a shopping center. So it's just, it's what happens with everyone. Watertown had-

It's like what the American economy has become. Watertown had two malls that were like two of the big malls in the area and they were across the street. And now they've been turned into insanely, I guess they were indoor malls and like lots of indoor malls they haven't worked and now one of them has been into a big outdoor mall

which is crazy in Massachusetts. And it's like they all think that it's Los Angeles and it's the Grove and that what everyone wants is a- It is the most popular Derby Street is one of them. There's a couple of like of these big outdoor malls. I was just there though and it's fucking freezing cold, and you have to go outside constantly to walk from place to place,

and it's raining all the time, because it's Boston, and it's insane that they've chosen to do that. The nice indoor mall was great. Yeah, and it's only used, it's like November, December, and January, or when it's the most used. Jamie also snored, by the way. She Jemmy also snored by the way.

Cute. She snored on my leg. I wanna make it clear because it sounded like I maybe shit my pants. So I wanna be clear. Jemmy would have left the couch a bit. There's so many people on our Reddit who'll be like, did you hear like a burp or a fart during an episode?

It's like, that doesn't happen. Yeah. We're not like cute. And if it did, I would have cut it out. So I think they're burping and farting and they're just kissing it. That's the other scary thing that's possible. It's only possible.

I don't know. But they're like, I just wanted to, they will put on Reddit, did you hear a burp or a fart? Like they actually want, what do they hope when you get out of posting that? That's a great question. That's a great question.

I don't know what they're getting out of being on the Doughboys subreddit anyways, I guess. Or listening to the podcast for that, man. That's a great question. I don't know what they're getting out of being on the Doughboys subreddit anyways, I guess. Or listening to the podcast for that, man. That's also a true. Yeah, the broader sense. Yeah, I don't know. I've come around on those Reddit nuts. They're fun.

I think they, well, speak for yourself. I think there is an urge to be like, I'm the person who spotted something, or I got them. Like, I fucking got them. Cause I think there's also an element of fandom now, which is kind of like, honestly, to some like, I'm the person who spotted something or I got them. Like I fucking got them. Because I think there's also an element of fandom now, which is kind of like, honestly, to some degree, kind of how I listen to Bill Simmons,

which is kind of like, like, how much do you like this person or how much are you just used to their personality? How much do you agree with their takes and how much are you just sort of like, this is something that I'm just used to having in my ears. And so I think there are some people who maybe don't like us but still are just habituated to listening to Dope Boys so they're looking for reasons to get us. I'm just used to having in my ears. And so I think there's some people who maybe don't like us but still are just habituated to listening to Dope Boys

so they're looking for reasons to get us. There's plenty that don't like us. If you look at it, there's many who don't like us like all the time. And like comment every week, I'm like, why are you doing this? I think I've said that to some of them, like why are you doing this now?

Because you were reading the comments. Yeah, I guess that's why they're doing it. I guess that's probably a reason why. I feel like it's Probably like a Batman Joker thing where you, they sort of exist, you guys exist in tandem that you both need each other, I guess. Batman Joker, but like penguin and fatter penguin. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha There was a website from the early days of the internet called The Gaff Squad where people would post gaps from like the continuity gaps from TV shows

and I used to really like that. And I guess that's the same thing of like watching a show and being like, the glove moved hands, which hands, you know? Or like his drink, his level of wine went down two inches and then like writing a whole long paragraph about it to like. Which IMDb is the goof section,

is still a, I'll sometimes, I'll peruse the goof section of IMDb. Oh, it's fun. I'll take a look in there. Just peruse, can you just look, does that mean you have to like physically walk around or no? No, you can peruse. All right, good, I said it right.

Peruse with your eyes. I can cast it myself. You were thinking of, I think a lot of times people think of perusing, they think of like going through LPs at a record store. Just sort of like a little bit, a little bit tactile, but you're still using your eyes. Well, you bring up a good point.

I mean, well, you remind me of something. I was at the South Shore Plaza, which is still an indoor Plaza. It's also where Paul Blart Mall Cop was shot. Yeah. Which is a much easier title to understand. Is that set in Boston? I don't think it is set in Boston. I think it is, was just shot at the South Shore Plaza, but I don't think it is. Yeah to understand is that set in Boston? I don't think it is set in Boston

I think it is was just shot at the South Shore Plaza, but I don't know where is that set feels like it's Jersey And maybe I've seen it. I could see Kevin James saying it has to be Jersey or something. Yeah Doesn't care about the state to film there film there. Yes, there, yes. I feel like we had tax breaks at that. Yeah, yeah, of course. The Massachusetts tax workers, I think now have they don't, because they don't do as many productions anymore. No, because I think what always happens

with those tax breaks is that states offer them to just pay millions of dollars to the movie studios with the thought that we will establish a local community, a local like industry, and we'll give people, we'll set up the whole infrastructure and we'll build up crews. And then the studios will love making things here so much that when we remove the tax breaks,

they'll of course stay because it's such a pleasant experience to film in the city of Boston or New Orleans or Vancouver. And the second they remove the tax breaks, the companies are like, fucking see you later. Yeah, we'll chase the other. Yeah, we'll go to Pittsburgh or North Carolina. And it's a disaster for, I mean, you shot in New Orleans, I know New Orleans had a, New Orleans had tax breaks

and then like remove them, cause they were like, they were the biggest production hub in the US for a while. And they were like, we absolutely don't need to be paying, writing $10 million checks left and right to Warner Brothers and Disney. And they were with the tax breaks and just all production stopped in New Orleans

till they like came back. I mean, I was gonna say like on their knees begging, which makes them sound the city of New Orleans. Really sad, but I think they had. Please, Hollywood wouldn't eat. Yeah, I was trying to buy you accent. But they do either day. the city of Norfolk. Really sad, but I think they have- Please Hollywood wouldn't eat him. Yeah, I was trying to- No.

Buy you accent. What did you- Well, Gator's a star man. You gotta come back. Look at how skinny the Gator is. Gator looks like a snake. He is a snake. They run wild.

That's the kind of trick you play down to here in the buy you. Now show me your titties, you get some beads. Are you the bear? Hey, I wanna see them titties. Wait, I wanna talk about killing it a little bit because a snake centered show, have you eaten snake? Yeah, but only like fried rattlesnake bites. What was the context for this and where was it?

Before the show, I like the idea of you being like, before the show starts, I wanna eat snake. No, it was like, I feel like it was some Boston, like Tex-Mex cantina or something like that. The kid had rattlesnake, you know, and I'm sure it was like, had been frozen for, it's not like a local snake, I'm sure it was, you had been frozen for, it's not like a local snake. I'm sure it was, it was like a novelty.

It was served with barbecue sauce or whatever. No, that's when I've had snake. And I think it's, I think, remember it being in sausage form, rattlesnake is a sausage. Yeah, I think I might have had rattlesnake sausage too. But it doesn't. It's not particularly distinct.

No. That's when I went to the Buckhorn Exchange, that was, that's in Colorado. It's in Denver, it's like a very old restaurant. And that's the first time I had rattlesnake. When I first moved over here. Is that one of those places that has like, what are the thing they call the-

Rocky Mountain oysters? The Rocky Mountain oysters, yeah, yeah. And my dad was like, it's my sister and I was like, you should try the Rocky Mountain oysters. And I was like, all right, what are they? Like some sort of balls or something. Like I knew immediately that it was something bad and we didn't get them.

But we did have the Rouse, like it was pretty good. It was decent. But that- A fine meat. People watching the show, the show is based on a real, it was a real thing basically, right? Yeah, there are these, I mean, the show is, if people haven't seen it, which would be crazy

because it's like a huge success. I'll be very mad if listeners of our show haven't watched. They're not on Peacock. But it is, the state of Florida has this huge problem with like people who bought exotic pets, bought these giant Burmese pythons in South Florida, didn't realize how big they get, cause they can get to be 10, 12, 15, 17 feet long

and weigh hundreds of pounds. And people just were like, well, the natural thing is there's swamps here, we'll drop them off in the swamps and the snakes just are complete apex predators. And there's like, they eat every single thing, nothing eats them. And they just have like, they've devoured some crazy percentage of all life in the Everglades.

There's these amazing recordings you can hear from 30 years ago, people just made audio recordings of like what the Everglades sound like at night. They just put a microphone in the middle of the swamp and then what it sounds like now. And it's so much quieter because every all these, it's like all birds, animals, like insects, it's all gone. It's like a lifeless swamp with hundreds of thousands

of snakes and nothing else. And there are hundreds of thousands of them. And they are, the state has these like, they start holding these sort of like year round, they pay people to kill the snakes. And then every year, for the last 12 or 13 years, they've had the Python Bowl where basically like snake hunters from around the world can come and compete for a weekend

to see who can kill the most snakes. The winner, the first year got an ATV. Now it's like a cash prize. It was, and it is like, it's unbelievable. And killing them is like an incredibly brutal thing where you walk out and you like cut the snake's head off. And these pythons don't, they bite you, but they aren't venomous, they're constrictors.

So they kind of just like bite you and start strangling you as you try to lop its head off. And it's just like, it's all, it's crazy, but it is also like, they're genuinely so scary. And this, the fact that I always like cling to is this, is there's like, there are hundreds of thousands of snakes, but they've started meeting with another kind of, another kind of species of Python, the Burmese ones, which are most prevalent. And this other kind of Python is less resistant to cold.

And so it's slowly allowing them to have to expand there, because the only reason they're really stuck in Florida is they hate the cold, so they have to be in the swamps down there. But now they're like the habitat where they can live is getting bigger and bigger, and they think that they'll be these snakes in New York City by the year 2100. They think these will be the dominant... I think they think it'll be the single dominant piece of wildlife in America is gonna be 20-foot snakes.

It's really... And the funny thing is, they have these... They have the contest every year, and the contest eliminates like 85 snakes over the course of a weekend. And there's, there's a hundred thousand of the snakes and they'll kill like one big female and it has 70 eggs in it or something stupid like that. And it's just like, there's no getting, there's no getting the problem under control. There's nothing to do. And the only solutions are like find something else that will kill the snakes, which is like always, you know, it's like an old and the only solutions are like find something else that will kill the snakes

Which is like always leave you know It's like an old the old cane toads thing or whatever. We're just gonna be an escalating series of disasters Right, there's a whole sinners thing where they throw in like its gorillas, right gorillas go and eat the snakes And they're waiting for the gorillas to freeze to death It's a yeah that I always I let the things like the the snakes being in New York City in 2100, that's the kind of thing like I love hearing about, I mean, I love hearing it, but I'm always fascinated by ways that climate change is going to like completely wreck our earth in ways that people don't expect. Like that's just like one of those externalities of it that's just like, oh, that's crazy. They're gonna be snakes just going around the subway. Yeah, you don't think about like snow as being a thing that keeps snakes out, but it is to some degree, you know, and it's like,

you're just going to get a lot more. I will say, with warming, I think it's a warming climate thing. I was in Boston, at least in Watertown recently, they've had a rabbit explosion. This is, I never saw rabbits in Quincy growing up and there's so many rabbits. Now driving down the streets of my parent, like in my parents' neighborhood, during the day at night,

there's hundreds of rabbits out constantly in a fully urban, I mean, suburban, but it's not like, it's not the woods or anything. It's just houses and lawns and paved streets. And there's just like, you drive at night and your headlights like shine a yard and 12 rabbits look at you and scatter. And there are like, there are many more rabbits than squirrels.

Oh yeah. And it's so, I can't get my head around like what exactly is, why it, they don't seem that weird, I guess, if you think of them as squirrels, but it's something so eerie and it feels like it's, you know, the movie us or something with those like bunnies ever. There's something sinister about it. Oh, it's strange. I never saw them at all growing up.

And let me tell you, they're rascally. The they're they're they're little they're rascally. They're rascally the at Long Beach City College where my dad taught, there were just rabbits like all over campus. There was just like, and I have no idea what it led to. I don't know if someone released a pet like 20 years ago or whatever, but you just see rabbits everywhere.

Your mascot is the Jackrabbit. Long Beach Poly High Jackrabbit, yeah, that's true. Almost college and champions. Yeah, I don't know if I like it. There's coyotes now in Quincy, there never were. I never saw any, I saw squirrels in your occasional raccoon and maybe like two possums in like the 20 years I was living in.

I did hear that in Boston, you can just fully hunt the coyotes, they don't care. In an urban setting, they don't care. In LA, the coyotes are protected. So even though they are, everyone's scared of them and they take people's dogs, they're like, you can't do anything about it. And in Boston, they're like're like short take a crossbow go

The streets of wall fam, you know, I feel bad for coyotes because of their history with the Road Runner I Feel like yeah, I always dealt with and now that that movie got shelved. I right. That's a whole thing. That's bullshit Slaslov what's his name? Zaslov. Zaslov, what the fuck? She did it again. Zaslov, come on.

It's just bullshit, Yikes. Zaslov's being, he's out of control. Do you have a favorite Looney Tune? He loves being, he's out of control. He's- Your favorite loony tune? Hmm. I mean, is it, oh Daffy probably. Daffy's very funny. I was gonna say Bugs, because I was like, Bugs is the best.

Everybody might still just be the best. It might be the best, it's like it's like it's like the best Austin Powers character. Austin Powers is a fine answer. Best Mario character, Mario is a fine answer. Yeah. But it's okay to say Bugs Bunny, even though he's the mascot for the brand.

Well, do you have some sort of, is this a trick question here? No, I wasn't driving anything. I don't know who my answer would be. I mean, I did like Tweety Bird a lot. Tweety Bird's pretty funny. I think he's very funny. I liked Katz, so I was kind of more Sylvester fan

than Tweety. Yeah, I get that, but their dynamic is great. They're kind of do well, you know. I really like Foghorn Leghorn. He's good. It's very funny. Yeah. He's kind of like a little puns maker.

I'm trying to hit things back. What is Porky Pig's defining characteristic? I think just that he has stutter basically. I think it's that he has a stammer, yeah. I think like him and Elmer Fudd are both like characters that are defined by a speech impediment, which is kind of wild that they went to that one. But Elmer Fudd had a what? He had the clear goal of like catching the rabbit at least.

True, that's true. Like this poor kid can get anything like that that drives him? I think I could be wrong with did he wanna be mayor? Was that my big doubt? I don't know about that. Is there a town? I don't know, he. Is there a town?

I don't know. He had a vest. Didn't he wear a vest? Yeah, I thought the whole thing was that kind of like he was not well-qualified for kind of being the MC, being the announcer because of his stammer. But I don't know. I actually don't know what his want is. I don't know how you define him. He doesn't have a vest. He has like a little coat. A coat? A little jacket.

Yeah, bow tie, a hat sometimes. The oldest continuing Looney Tunes character. Is Porky? That's wild, Porky. Wow. So that's his thing, he's the OG. Yeah. And he's not paired with anyone, right?

Cause all the others have a sort of like, a rival of some kind, some yin to their yang that like, and he's just on his own, right? Yeah, I think he's just kind of doing his own thing. I think you can draw like a direct line from Porky Pig getting on the air to me being on TV. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Did you ever go in to buy some wine at the store and you're like, I don't know what to get. There's so many options. What am I supposed to do? I never do. My mom and sister sent me out.

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it was an, it was an, it was a wellness newsletter. That's what it started off. Yeah, it was basically like, you know, like a sub-stack, a pre-sub-stack. It grew into this big company, you know, selling all the stuff online. They moved headquarters from London to Santa Monica in the 2010s and really were like kind of marketing

to the, you know, moneyed American wellness sort, grew to about 100 employees by 2019. The infamous vagina candle, which I think maybe is what people know most, most associate with the Goop, was released in January, 2020. Doesn't that sound more recent than you think? Yeah, that's crazy.

Like just before the pandemic, the vagina candle, and everyone was like, oh, look at this thing. How about that? That was a big news story. I remember I bought like 30 of them for the pandemic, the vagina candle, and everyone was like, oh, look at this thing. How about that? That was a big news story. I remember, I bought like 30 of them for the pandemic. I stopped off. I was really nervous I would run out during the pandemic.

I came by your place when you had them all going and we were both like, yeah, she was making a little sound. She snoring. She snoring. Yeah, you had the vagina candles all lit up when I came by your place and we were both like, what's this strange new smell? Yeah. The chef of Goop is Kim Floresca of Perse,

which is a Thomas Keller New York City restaurant, very fancy white tablecloth joint that I've never eaten at. Anyone been to Perse? No. No, it's a- Do you think I've been to Perse? You're a food guy.

I am a food guy, but where is it? In New York? In New York, yeah. At a famous actor? Yeah. Yeah, it's a, do you think I've been to Perse? You're a food guy. I am a food guy, but where is it? New York? In New York, yeah. I had a famous actor. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You could go to Perse. I could go to Perse.

I could go to Perse. Me and Porky at a table together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How do you, oh, OK. Is this a bow tie? When did this become a real, wait, what?

I was just going to say we're both dressed with just a bow tie and a jacket. The most smooth from the waist down. Gwyneth obviously a lightning rod for various of reasons, a number of reasons. How do we feel about Gwyneth as a celebrity? I like her as an actor. I think I've always enjoyed seeing her in celebrity? I like her as an actor. I think like she's, I have always enjoyed seeing her and stuff.

I feel like she's like- I like her as an actor. She makes one delicious candle. Um. Um. Um. Um. Pulling out strings.

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Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. Um. pro-Gwyneth. I mean, obviously, like all the MCU shit I couldn't care less about, but like I feel like she's- Whoa, we were saying that she doesn't really care a lot about MCU, which is funny. I like that about her that she's pretty disconnected.

That's fine. It's also funny that her role in the MCU is like someone's Iron Man's assistant. Yeah. Which I really like the whole, I always think that character is funny because it makes you ask questions about like the other superheroes and whether they have assistance. Right, right, right. I read a lot about like who, you know, like runs facilities at Professor Xavier's school for gifted children.

You're like, someone has to do that work, right? Yeah, there's a janitorial crew. Yeah. Which is cool, that would be cool. The mutant character who does all that stuff. Well, you think it's a mutant. Maybe it's not a mutant. I feel like that's a waste of a mutant, right?

Yeah. A janitor. Unless it's like you have just side work as part of going to the school, is like we also like kind of, you know, like a hostel or whatever. Like we all kind of look for them after ourselves. Yeah, and you, somebody's got like a power

that like allows them to mop the floors with the water they shoot from their hands or whatever. Right, right, right. That sucks. You get there and you're like, I'm gonna be the guy who cleans, I have to be the guy who cleans up, you know, if you're like a mopper or whatever.

Can I get some time in the danger room, but no, you gotta. You're like storm and you have to like make wind a lot to sort of like of course. Yeah Yeah, I mean she maybe would get stuck on that duty I feel like we controlling rain and stuff like that I it would be someone with kind of a shittier power, which is a bummer I feel like yeah, we're just like an amazing power and it's just a waste of it You know like I can phase matter into a different dimension

But I'm using that to like, you that to clean gunk off a stove top. You know what could be saving Manhattan. But overall I say like, yeah, Gwyneth plays, her character ends up being rescued at a certain point, which is one of the Iron Men I guess. And but yeah, Pepper Potts is whatever. Like I think like talented Mr. Ripley, we talked about seven on the blank check podcast,

some great performances, especially on that side of her career. The Royal Tenenbombs, let's not forget that. She's, I like Gwyneth as an actor. I'm pro Gwyneth. I didn't realize, because we were talking about this during lunch, in the lunch, in the head gum lunch room. We were talking about how, there's a head gum lunch room.

Yeah, we should just start calling it that. We were in the lunch room and we were talking about G we got, there's a headgum lunchroom. Yeah, we should start calling it that. We were in the lunchroom and we were talking about a Gwyneth and you were, and we were saying like, oh, people are, are meaner to her. I think because of Goop, basically. 100%. I think that's a huge part of it. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm, I feel like I'm pro even Goop because I think my feeling about Gwyneth, and this is like, I not a strongly held belief and I could back off it at any minute, but I think like, she's real honest at this point about who she is, you know, I feel like she's a rich lunatic, you know? And like, she's so upfront about it

and I find it refreshing as opposed to like, she has this like business that sells, you know, $700 like, she has this like business that sells $700 tote bags and $90 crystal sprays or whatever it is. And she's like 100% upfront and she doesn't apologize and she doesn't pretend that she's like a normal person. And then I think comparing that to like, Ryan Reynolds or something who's out there like

trying to convince us all that he's a man of the people and that he's just like a regular dude or like Ellen DeGeneres or something where they like lives in Montecito and has 75 horses, but is like, I'm actually just like a, I'm like a normal person who understands about the lives and concerns of regular everyday Americans. And it's like, it's bullshit.

And I don't like being lied to and Gwen, it's not lying to me. That is a great point. It's kind of an old school sort of celebrity. Yeah, the person I always think of is just like the rock, which is just like, I saw an Instagram ad the other day that was just like the rock selling his own debit cards. Like, why do you need a debit card?

What about you? Like what you wanted to do with your career, what you wanted to do with your life led you to the point where you're like, like, you know, I was thinking you're on like the tonight show talking about you, like what you wanted to do with your career, what you wanted to do with your life, led you to the point where you're like, like you know what I was thinking, you're on like the Tonight Show talking about your, and a debit card where your account like has the same sort of interest as like a savings account,

it's like what, what are we doing here? Like that's what you want to do. And it feels like Gwyneth, it feels genuine. It feels like she does like actually want to sell this. She likes it and I believe she uses these candles and eats this food. And I don't believe that Ryan Reynolds uses mint mobile.

There's no fucking way. Hey. It makes me like. It's no way that's a good enough sell service for Ryan Reynolds. Does Gwyneth Pondrell use her own candle? That's what just came to my mind. It would be a weird thing to be like,

it smells nice in here. She's like, it's my vagina candle. You're like, what the fuck? Why, of course she does. But that's like, isn't it weird that it's, isn't it based on her? It'd be a weird power move, I think, if you lit that like in a meeting.

Yeah. And you're like, that's me, you're smelling. Like that would be weird. That's me, you're smelling. Yeah. No one asked. All that said. I usually do go into meetings and announce that by the way, that's me you're smelling That that that pro-guinthropology aside, I do think there are two things worth noting

One is that she did support Rick Caruso for mayor She did like make a cut of campaign ad for him and that guy's like a piece of shit And that just comes from like, you know, like rich insulated liberal. If LA was like the Americana, we would be a lot of fun. Well, that's another thing just talking about outdoor shopping centers.

The big reason for their popularity is because Americans don't have the opportunity to live in walkable cities. And so they drive somewhere and pay for parking to experience what it's like to like live in Europe. Like, oh, I can just walk around and go shopping. But that's its own thing. When I was at Social Replies, I forgot to say this.

I went to Newberry Comics, which I'm sure that Casey and Emma are fans of Newberry Comics. Newberry Comics. Newberry Comics, which is like a cool, look, if you wanted a Cartman shirt back in the day, that's where you went. Yeah.

If you want it, or a stuffed Cartman day, that's where you went. Yeah. If you want it, if you want, or a stuffed Cartman doll, you could get it there. Right. Hell, if you want a Cartman robe, this is the place to get it. Let's say you wanted like beach towel, Cartman beach towel. Cartman beach towel,

you know what you could get probably is a Towley beach towel. I'm sure like they had every cell. I'm not interested in that, I want the Cartman one. All right, you can get the Cartman one there as well. All right, good. What were you asking? I was just gonna say Cartman bobble head board, whatever it's all the same. You can get a Cartman bobble head. It's not really high,. I want the Cartman one. All right, you can get the Cartman one there as well. All right, good. What were you asking? I was just gonna say Cartman bobblehead,

but whatever, it's all the same. You can get a Cartman bobblehead. It's not really high, it's on the same tier. I went in, I went there, I returned a gift at the Apple store. Yeah. I bought my mom something she didn't want it. And... What didn't she want?

Cartman iPad. I bought her like a speaker and she didn't want the speaker. And so I brought it. I bought her like a speaker and she didn't want the speaker. And so I brought it. Like a home pod? Yeah, home pod, yeah. So I brought it back there. What did she like the speaker? That really nice gift.

It's a nice gift. It's a thoughtful. Great son. I bought her an iPhone. I don't want to say it on the fucking podcast. That's so nice. What a great son. She didn't want it.

I returned it. She was like, this is way too expensive. And I was like, you're hard to shop for. And this is one easy gift and I'm done. Does she have an iPhone? Which makes me sound like a shitty son. Yeah, that makes you sound worse. I'm done.

Did she already have an iPhone? Was she in the Apple ecosystem? It was like two new. It was only like two and a half years old. And she was like, it's too new. It was like only like two and a half years old and she was like, it's too new. Oh, got it, got it. So I returned it, I walk into Newberry Comics.

You know what the biggest thing, and I think that's like what all malls sell? Funko Pops. Funko Pops are huge. The store had like 3000 Funko Pops. They got Cartman there. Yeah, there was Cartman, Tauley, what else did I see? I think just those two. We sayman there. Yeah, there was Cartman Tauley. What else did I see? I think just those two.

We say Cartman? Yeah, we say Cartman. Yeah, Funko Pops are huge. Funko Pops are the biggest. I think I read somewhere that they had like plans for like a Funko theme park and stuff. Like there's a store in LA. There's a store now, yeah.

Basically like has whole multi-story dioramas with giant Funkos that you can pose with. It's like a big Instagram thing, but I think they want to, it's great. It's crazy. We should do do-boys Funkos, I think. Yeah. I just want great.

I imagine what my, because your head is bigger, right? Don't they enlarge the head? It's got to be a little bit bigger, a little disproportionate. Yeah. I feel like it would not work with me. I feel like. But I feel like it would be, like my head is already kind of- They just make you to scale.

Like, you just look like you. I'm the only funko that says to scale. But the kids love Funko. Kids love Funko. All models are fun, they're just selling Funko. I also kind of think probably the adult male Doughboys fan demographic likes Funko pops I think that's who they're selling more Funkos to than children. Yeah, so the other the other guinea thing

I think is worth saying and this is this is as someone who I you know, I've heard this Yeah, I just want to say one last thing Kind of the middle man just open a Cartman shop People would go to a cart man store that just sold all things Cartman You could at least a minimum do a part-up that was all Cartman merch. It would be fantastic. Yeah. When you get in there, you get what you want, you get out.

Yeah. And then at the exit, there's a sign that says, screw you guys, I'm going home. And you're like, oh, I get to watch, and you get to pose by the sign. That'd be a lot of fun. The Cartman store. The Cartman store's a good idea.

Mitchell was walked out, that idea was so upset. How good an idea it upset. You get, Good an idea it is. You get an Eric Cart when you go in and Eric Cartman and it's got Cartman on it. Oh, I don't understand. I would genuinely shop there. Yeah.

And not just once a year, probably a couple times. You wanna drive the go Cartman around the track? Go for it. The store is getting much bigger than maybe I initially thought. The other good thing that I think is worth, and it's pertinent to our meal, which is that for someone who is, from what I've read,

I don't know how much of this is accurate, but for someone who doesn't like plastic to touch her food, that everything comes in single use plastic. There is so much plastic use. So much plastic waste for a place that should be, and this is again kind of the rich liberal, you know, like socially liberal but supports Rick Caruso sort of demographic where there's some personal wastefulness. It's having this,

you know, like having great or like having visibly, you know, whatever pro-inclusive politics, but then having this like massive lawn and this pool that's wasting all of this water. Like we see this happening from people who are super duper rich. And it's the kind of thing of just like, have this stuff come in cardboard. You know what I mean? Like have some sort of concept

of your ecological footprint if this is going to be your brand. Give me that plastic. Shiny, clear, smooth. I love it. I actually, I got food yesterday. I got food last night. We ate it today.

Yeah, I got, we had a meal today in the headgum lunchroom. And also Natalie and I got it delivered on Friday. So I've had two meals. I'm gonna say two things. One, you texted me, not to get ahead of ourselves here, but he texted me Friday and said, is Goop good?

And he was showing a picture of which I've already was like, what the fuck are you, what do you mean is Goop good? And then I brought it up to a couple of people. I said to Fran, Frank Gillespie, who was a writer on Killing It, very funny. I was like, Luke's coming on the show tomorrow, we're doing Goop, and she goes, oh my God, so good. And I was like, what the hell is Goop good?

And then I mentioned to a couple other people, and they were like, oh, I hear it's good. Like people are, the reviews for Goop are pretty high. This is the thing. And Natalie and I both went in with a bit of skepticism. And it's a place you don't wanna like. You don't wanna like, and also we had so many bad experiences

with celebrity ghost kitchens over the years. They're all so likes to just crave and wash crabs. We don't like ghost kitchens. Is this like a specific, like does this run out of another restaurant or is this a specific like takeout center? From what we can tell, it operates out of places like,

there's a kitchen, there's a ghost kitchen collective called Colony Cooks. Okay. So like that's one of them. That's the one in Santa Monica. I'm a little more open to him if it is a place that is like, this is multiple ghost kitchens in a space. Right, but that's what it is.

It's an industrial kitchen that just exists to service ghost kitchens. And it's just for DoorDash to pick it up. That's its whole function. There's no actual place. I don't think you can go and dine in at a Goop kitchen. Natalie, I'm gonna investigate this place a little bit. And I believe this is this particular ghost kitchen

where we got our food from is also services Bonitos Tacos, which is like at the complete opposite end of the spectrum. That's like, you know, taquitos is their big thing there. So, just like the idea that the same space is preparing both this high end, you know, cuisine foritos is their big thing there. So just like the idea that the same space is preparing both this high end, you know, cuisine for Brentwood yoga moms

and then this working class Mexican food. It's just sort of like, I don't know how these actually work if they have different staffs or if it's one guy is preparing both things at the same time. And even that's the weird world we live in. But yes, now I both went a little bit of skepticism and we both had, and I think I articulated how we felt in the actual thing I texted you,

which is I regret to inform you that Goop Kitchen is fucking good. We kind of wanted to hate it, and then we were like, fuck, it's maybe awesome. It's maybe delicious. Well, I didn't try until last night when I got the pepperoni pots pizza, which is... Great menu item name, honestly.

All of it you made in that day. You and I wanted to try it. I'll say this, maybe the worst thing I had from Goop and I don't even think it was that bad. I would say it was like a three or a three and a half out of five or something. But it was a little bit greasy, like the dough tasted greasy, it was a pepperoni pizza,

pizza, but it was, the dough was a little greasy. But still I was like, this is still like high quality, but I also got a vodka with no vodka, the penne vodka dish, which came in an extra plastic container. Like it was just like, it was sitting in a plastic container, which is like, this is, the, your thing about just wasteful plastic,

it was like, why is there an extra? Why is like, what would be the box that holds it plastic? It didn't make any sense. But that was really good. I was like, I was shocked that it was as good as it was. And then today, I guess we can start talking about it. Let's take a step back because I want to, I want to start with Luke with why you want to talk about this place. I believe this is a place you pitched.

Yeah, only because we had on killing it this last season, we were in person and we would get lunch there and ordering lunch in these writers rooms as a nightmare and everyone is opinionated and everyone's miserable and Goop is the only place I think everyone, the entire staff was happy to get. Everyone felt like there was stuff there, you could be healthy, but also what didn't to get. Everyone felt like there was stuff there. You could be healthy,

but also what didn't feel oppressively healthy. Like there was, it's flavorful and we ordered it so much. And I'm fully willing to say it's my favorite like work, lunch option in Los Angeles. I will also say, cause you're putting in the same categories, places like the other places that would be in this pool of options for a takeout luncheon in Los Angeles if we were going to any sort of office job

or places like Sweetgreen or Mendocino Farms. Yeah, Tender Greens. Which now is kind of Tender Greens is what, more on its way out a little bit I guess. It's maybe declining a little bit. I have some good experiences at Tender Greens in recent years. I like Tender Greens.

But the, I think they write it at the ship a little bit. The thing is, it's not more expensive than these places, which is, I was expecting this place to have a huge premium in the same way that like whatever you're ordering, some crystal or some oil from Goop online, it's gonna have this gigantic markup. It's not, like the salads are about the same amount. They're going with the plastic.

Exactly. They're not taking your advice and making it, you know. Well, sweet green desk cardboard. It's achievable. It's true. They should. They should. But I mean, the penny, it was a penne no vodka, I believe is what it was called, penne no vodka. And then it came with chili flakes, grated parmesan, and then a pepperoni pot pizza. Look, I did give a decent tip. but guess how much that all came to with the tip? I'm gonna guess $90.

$80. Wow. I gave good tips too. But it was like, it was like, like overall $60. Yeah, no, it's like, I was expecting this, oh, I'm gonna spend $300 at this place. And that, yeah, no, it's the same sort of right. And I don't think looking at the menu

that it has the feeling, sometimes all those other places feel like there's only 15 ingredients and everything, yeah, no, it's the same sort of range. And I don't think looking at the menu that it has the feeling, sometimes all those other places feel like there's only 15 ingredients and everything is just, is just reconfiguring the same 15 ingredients. 100%. Yeah. And this is like a whole wide range of, wide variety of like, tastes and flavor profiles. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm all in on goop. The, the, the, the, the, The ingredients, I mean, my experience today, and we'll get into what we got, of course, but I was like, oh, these are like quality ingredients. It like reminds me of when I first went, the first time I went to Tender Greens and I was like, oh, this is like good chicken. And this is like, the produce is good.

And that's the same thing I get from Goop, which is surprising because it is a ghost kitchen. You think it's gonna be way shittier than it is. And it is very much like nice restaurant quality food. So there's three concepts under the Goop kitchen umbrella. And you can order from all three places in the same order. The thing is that two of them are only open for dinner hours.

Is that Goop superfina? Yes, there's Goop kitchen, which is what we got for lunch today in the Head Gum Lunchroom. There is Goop Rotisserie, and then there's also Goop Superfina. And I don't know what that's a Portmanteau of. I have no idea. Because Cucina, I know.

But what's the F from? Like if it was Supercina, I'd be like, okay, I get about Superfina. Where's the F coming from? So like the Sugarfina, like the candy place? Sugar Fina? Is that affiliated with her? I don't think so.

But it's like a candy, like a custom candy place. Or like you can order candy gift baskets and stuff. That's what it reminds me of every time I hear it. She doing a pun on a different brand, maybe. Yeah. I don't know. But yeah, that's like pizza and pasta. I don't get the divisions at all.

I mean, yeah, I have no idea. But it is funny that lunch, just from my time at the Simpsons, I've never worked in a real professional writers room, which is crazy to me. I got a lot of great ideas. This is not sure you're memory-holding one show that you worked on. I did, I'm sorry, I did Jonah Ray. And you worked on, I know a pilot.

Birthday boys. And then of course birthday boys And you worked on, I know a pilot. Birthday boys, I love that. And of course birthday boys. Yeah, wait, what was the pilot? Didn't you write for the comedy bang bang pilot? Oh yeah, I did write for the comedy bang bang pilot. All right, so that's three things, three jobs. I mean, I never got staffed on that show. Yeah, they wanted somebody else for that cheer

for some reason. But it is funny that, and I'm sure you feel the same way. Yeah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha day for me, which is funny because it's like, you're living a dream in some ways, but it is that sort of thing of like, lunch is so important in rooms or in, I guess just for anyone. It's anything, look, we are very lucky to have this show. It feels like a job sometimes. Anytime you're doing something that it's scheduled and it's your profession, there are gonna be times when you want like a break and yes, it's like,

hey, working in Hollywood, that's the dream factory. It's what everyone, like a lot of people aspire to do. But even when you're in that position, at a certain point it feels like work. So I get it. Yeah, it just, and so getting the right restaurant, I so many times, front of the show, Selman, Matt Selman will, is like, go here. he would tell me places to go all the time.

But if you get it wrong, it's a disaster. So having a place that is consistent and that everyone likes is huge. Well, we used to have, when I worked on Brooklyn Nine-Nine forever, and I think you guys talked about it with Dan Gore when you had him on the show. We had this like incredibly elaborate lunch ordering system

that I'm very proud of. Honestly, much more than anything else I've ever achieved. But the reason you did it is not cause like, partly I just wanted to waste time and I didn't feel like working and we could kill an easily an hour in the morning going through various games to figure out who was gonna pick lunch. But people don't like picking lunch

because it's so much, the reason we did it is because like when you said, all right, we're just gonna go around a circle and everyone gets to decide what's for lunch for that day, the pressure of it because when you select something other people don't want, they get so mad at you and everyone's so grumpy and then you're responsible and it ruins everyone's day and any like rational person is like,

I don't want that pressure. So we had to devise these like crazy games to sort of make it not, you know, to make it not so awful on everybody. Right. But Goop, just say Goop Kitchen, everyone was like, great, we'll do it. You know, occasionally we'd have it too much,

but I really feel like there was like full buy-in from a full staff that in a way that I'm... That's, I never would make everyone happy at The Simpsons. There would always be someone who was mad at me. There's no, but that's also makes people happy to be unhappy, you know. Of course, yeah. You can't fix people.

The plus side is that I think I could beat all of them up. And I'm not strong, really. But the Simpsons staff, I think, particularly is not. Was particularly, there she goes again. It sounds like I'm making noises. We're not hearing it on the mic. I'm not sure the mic is picking it up. I heard anything. Yeah.

Now you're in me thinks the lady does protest too much. She's snoring. And how many times can you shit your pants and run when you're burning them? Let's talk about our meal today. Actually, I'll step back a second because you talked about your meal. I'm just gonna say what we got on for dinner real quick.

We got a greener on the other side, soup which is a cold soup that Natalie had. We got what they call all caps, the best arugula salad. It's pretty good arugula salad. Had watermelon radishes in it, real treat. But not the best? That was good. What I call it the best arugula salad had watermelon radishes in it real treat, but not the best That was good What I call it the best arugula salad ever had

I don't know if I have a ready inventory of all the arugula salads ever eaten But it's certainly a notable one cow packets looks like green soup. He told me to yeah the green soup look I didn't actually have any but it looked good the classic ish cob which I got without bacon and The like you know what's nice about this one has like Fresno chilies in it Which I hadn't experienced in the cob salad and it's got like a really also really well done You know hard boiled egg however they do it just you know those ones that have that like a really yellow yolk I'm always impressed by that technique. Yeah, especially for delivery. Yeah, exactly Yeah, and then also the pizza Bianca which we got this from the super fina side. And that one is a white pizza that has mozzarella,

again, more Fresno chilies. They love those Fresno chilies there. And maybe it's a different kind of chili in the salad. And yeah, this one was like, it's gluten-free as well, which I'm not sure if the pepperoni pots, pizza was gluten-free, but- Fucking piss if it was. For a gluten-free pizza.

You're mad. Crispy and not gummy. A lot of times those gluten-free crusts can have like a weird like sort of like chew to them. And that was not the case with this one. I thought it was really well executed. Did the pizza come in cardboard? Pizza did come in cardboard, yeah.

I'm gonna view store here and make sure that, but I'm- How big is the pizza? I've never had the superfina. Pretty decently big. It's like a- And it's a square. It was like a decent size square pizza with nine slices. Yeah, I'd say it was comparable to what you'd get from a chain.

Are they all gluten-free? I think they are all GF. Oh my God. I'm fucking livid. You didn't even know this. But you liked it. Yeah, you liked it. Yeah, I know, but I'm mad now.

I didn't know. It was gluten-free? Oh, anyways, I can't find. The pepperoni pots one is gluten-free, yes. What the fuck? Yeah. I really feel like this should be great, right? You should be thrilled that you didn't,

this is a triumph for them and for you. I'll be honest with you, I'm gonna get myself some gluten today and eat them. I'm pissed off, I missed them last night. I do wonder if that was the taste I was tasting because I was like, something is off here. But it was decent. I am surprised that that was a gluten-free pizza.

I think usually gluten-free stuff doesn't taste different as much as the textures are hard to... Yeah. The textures feel off. The texture was pretty decent. That's what we were impressed by. The texture was good. It was nice and crispy again,

for something that's delivered, that's impressive in its own right, but also that it didn't have that gummy sort of character to it. Yeah, I really enjoyed that pizza. I thought it was a genuine treat. Also, great sauces. Got a bunch of sauces on the side.

I wonder what a sauce game, a great ranch there. A lot of dill in that ranch. I didn't have the ranch. Great, what a sauce game, a great ranch there. A lot of dill in that ranch. I didn't have the ranch. Great, like a thick, hearty ranch. What did, wait, what did the ranch come with? We just got it on the side. Okay, you just got it on the side. You just were dipping pizza into it?

What were you doing? Yeah, okay. Why not? Yeah. Was that crazy? Yeah, it's not crazy, it's very normal. No, I just wasn't sure if they, I wanted to know if they offered that as an option

or if you, that's a fun little menu hack. Yeah. No, there's just there's just a bunch of difference I mean we just look with well, we'll we'll we'll go a little sauce crazy They have they also have their super secret a pizza seasoning which we also got which was delightful And but yeah, they have a bunch of different sauces and all of them were what's the pizza season would well It's super secret is the thing but it it is like- Like garlic salt kinda? It is kinda garlic salty. It has like a little bit of just a touch of heat to it. It felt like it had some,

maybe some rosemary in there, some Parmesan. It was good. This is you and Ali on Friday night? Yeah. You couldn't have invited me over. Hey, come over to our house and have me break bread with us. I've never been there. I'd break bread at your house. You wouldn't make the tall over there

I would absolutely would not if you invited me to come to your house. I go Hey me and Natalie are gonna order from Goop. Do you want to come to my place and share it with us? That sounds like a fun night the three of us. I don't think you would do it. I don't believe you watch a movie They'll be a blast. I bring a sleeping bag You watch a movie? It'll be a blast. I bring a sleeping bag. The three of us. It'll be fun.

We'll think about it. I've only seen your house from the outside. You know that? Yeah, that's fine. Is that true? That is 100%. I want to see what's going on in there. We're just living there. What's the fuck's going on in there?

I don't know what the fuck's happening in there. Two people who live in their lives. What's going on in there? I don't like it. The black box as far as you're concerned. From the outside, it feels like Mitch has been far more open with you than you're being with him opening up his home. That's true.

You constantly. That's true. You've met Wall-E and Irma, you've hung out with them before. You've met Natalie. I'm not comparing Natalie to Wall-y and Irma. Okay, well. I don't take Wall-y and Irma to media events. I think I should come over sometime.

If you really want, we can maybe end here. We'll make contact, we'll make content out of it. No, we don't need to, what are we gonna go bring? Yeah, that's what I want. If you really want to come over, I'm fine. You fuck you, I don't want to come over. What do you need to come over? What do you need to come over?

What do you need to come over for? I want to see what's going on in there. I want to see what your life is like. You want to see what's going on in there? Yeah. You see me on the Zoom chat, you've seen into my home. You know what my home office looks like. I want to go in your jack-off room.

Again, you've seen into my office from a Zoom chat. No, I don't have a jackshack at our house. That's your X-Men power. Cyclops has to clean up after me. Not happy about it. No, I just, I don't, this is my whole thing. Okay, we heard that one. You heard that one. Jimmy's riled up.

The show's putting more and more to sleep. That usually does mean she's very sleepy. I think it's okay to be like, hey, that's my private space where I live and if we wanna hang out, we can go to restaurants. You know what I'm getting in there? I'm gonna get in there and muck around a little bit. You didn't like people going into your room?

I don't give a shit. I've seen you freak out when people have gone into your bed. Just don't turn on a black light, you're fine. You can go in there all you want. Get in there, you can go in there. Bitch, I haven't been to your house yet. That's true, Emma, you're welcome over anytime you'd like.

Wow. Normal, normal. What? That's normal. Is this true of all your friends, Weiger? Are there other people who have been inside your house? My parents have been inside our apartment and that's it. I don't think we had any other guests

at the time we were here. Natalie never has a play date where you're anything like that. No, she's like me from play date. Okay, all right, sorry. I don't have to come to your house ever, I don't care. I don't know. We're very we're private We like having our own space. I know you are I know I know you are I just want to see what's going on in there There's nothing it's a normal. It's a place where people live and make and prepare food and and bathe

Yeah, okay, you're waiting me over It's a normal place where we prepare food. Okay. Sounds pretty normal watch TV It's a normal place where we prepare food. Oh, okay. Sounds pretty normal. Watch TV. Play video games. I don't know, we do stuff there. It's boring.

I just wanna see what your home life is like. That's all, you're my friend. That's all, I just wanna see. So what, we do what people do. We just hang out. I'm not forcing it. I'm not forcing it. I don't care.

It feels like you're forcing it. It's boring. I guarantee you it's boring. I know it's boring. I know it is. I know. So I'm sorry. I don't have to come over. I don't see why it's a big, I know. So I'm sorry. I don't have to come over.

I don't see why it's a big deal. It's not a big deal, I don't have to come over. You have to fight a boy. Okay, then you don't have to come over. Do you remember like, there was that woman who wrote for like Grey's Anatomy or whatever. Yes. Who was lying about having like various cancers.

Right, right. She had friends who would drop her off like outside the Mayo Clinic or whatever. Yeah. And then they'd like, she'd walk in towards the entrance and then they'd drive off and then she'd turn a corner and not go and get cancer treatment. Feels like it's possible that there's something

like that going on. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right. Yeah, right.

I'd walk into the Mayo Clinic. Yeah, the actual Mayo Clinic. Yeah. Like Mayonnaise Clinic is what I'm saying. Yeah, we're not saying the same thing. Yeah, the actual Mayo Clinic. Yeah. Like Mayonnaise Clinic is what I'm saying. Yeah, we're all saying the same thing. All right, all right. Yeah, no, no, it's, look, it's just, I'm not hiding anything. What do I get to hide there?

All right, fine. You're not hiding anything. All right. It seems crazy that you wouldn't just allow your friend and co-worker to... That is a good point. It's a whole to do. Then you gotta come over and what are we gonna do? We're gonna sit down? What are we gonna do? I've only seen outside your house once too.

Yeah. It picked you up for AEW. Which was a blast. Oh, that's right. We had a lovely time. We had a lovely time. That was very nice of you to get in here. Well, I sure as still my friend, I don't need to see inside your house. I don't wanna find anything in there that I wouldn't wanna see anyways.

It's fine. It's like going through my dad's underwear draw. I wouldn't want to do that here. You know what's funny earlier, you said the mayor's titties. This just makes me sound dumb. And I was like, I wanted to say something about titties and I can't remember what it was. But is that a dumb guy?

Am I a dumb man for thinking that? I think maybe like an hour later circling back to it, maybe not the best judgment, I don't know if that makes you a dumb guy. I had something important to say, but not. Important? You had something important to say? I had something to say about titties,

I forgot what they are. Was it gonna be in the New Orleans accent? I may be posting it in the New Orleans accent. All right, anyway. Okay. the New Orleans accent. I may be crossing the New Orleans accent. I'm maybe crossing the New Orleans accent. I'm maybe crossing the New Orleans accent. All right, anyway. Okay. Moving on. So we had a lovely time, we had a nice meal.

Today we ate in the headgum lunchroom and I ordered a Nosh box with hummus to share, which is basically just vegetables and hummus, but it was a nice selection. I got the Goop Teriyaki Bowl with chicken thigh, that is a chicken and umami rice blend, and sesame marinated kale, avocado, which was actually nice,

got like a half avocado in there, some furikake, some garlic broccoli, some pickled ginger, which I appreciated, and a little bit of teriyaki sauce, just a very thin sort of kiddie pools worth of teriyaki sauce for dip. But not overly sweet. I don't know, if I got this,

I was thinking of the way you framed it, because we talked before the record of like, if this is just my work lunch, which functionally it is, this is like a work day, so to speak for me. And this was my lunch I had before we went in here. And I was like, this is a great work lunch. I'm very satisfied by this.

This has a bunch of different components that are all working together. It feels nutritious and it's filling and it's flavorful. I didn't love you saying a kitty-sized pool thing of sauce, maybe uncomfortable. It was just like a shallow little, you know, like you know what I'm talking about. Sure, no, I get it.

You're like ankle deep in there. Yeah, I didn't like it in general. But it was a very, my meal, which I forgot even what mine was called. I think that we got a similar. I have the menu up here if you want to describe it, I can maybe figure it out. You got the Goop Teriyaki Bowl, why is that what you got?

Yes, yeah. And I got some sort of, well, I'll figure out what it was. There's the Hollywood Bowl. The Hollywood Bowl with chicken. Oh, that is what I got. Yeah, there's a half salad, half rice bowl. It was healthy, I'll say that. Chickpeas, kale, feta, chicken or salmon,

quinoa and brown rice blend, broccoli, green beans, and a seven minute egg, that's that egg I was talking about. And the egg was, my egg was very well done. Here's the deal, this is $20.39, which is- That one's pricey. Which is, and I got the Erby, the Erby, whatever it is, the Erby AOLI, which was recommended.

It's interesting because this could be location dependent because the one I'm looking at says it's $14.95. But is that more when you add a protein? Yeah, it might have been a thing, but there might have been an upgrade there. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's- Oh, does it not come with chicken? It says it comes with salmon or chicken by default,

but I don't know how it's, if it's priced at the vegetarian level. I like those pickled onions that are on there, those like a- Yeah, I love a pickled onion. Yeah, I had some sort of salmon miso bowl that had pickled jalpeños. Winter salmon bowl, I think. Yeah, I had some sort of salmon miso bowl that had pickled jalapenos. Winter salmon bowl, I think. No, I had those, it was miso-

Oh, okay, there's a different one. It's a like miso salmon plate. Miso salmon salad. Yes, that was it. Yeah, red miso glaze, and then it has some Japanese purple sweet potatoes. Great. And then, yeah, another seven minute egg, avocado,

and Furukake snow Peas, watermelon radish. But they had like some, a little like pickled jalapeno in there. The Snow Peas are great. Some, they're split. There's some individual peas. There's some casings, like really, I loved it. I think this place is hidden.

Yeah. It is, it's, it's, it was like a healthy, I don't know if I was like thrilled. It was good that I was eating a healthy lunch. I'll tell you what, the star of the show for me, I don't know if I was like, it was good that I was eating a healthy lunch. I'll tell you what, the star of the show for me, I don't know what to say for this, because the bite of the night, or the, you know, this is a slurp, it was a slurp, it was a soup.

That, and you got the same soup. Yeah, the Japanese sweet potato soup. I thought that was pretty great. It's really good. It was really, really, it was really well done, the sweet potato soup. I mean, you're the spoon man. It could be like the spoon man's loving spoonful

or something like that. That's a longer tell than I ever expected. I love it. I love it. It's the spoon man's loving spoonful. It goes to that sweet potato soup. It was great. Yeah, that's super good.

There's brussel sprouts floating in it. I never thought that I, and then they were, there were like dried brussel sprout, right? Yeah, for like a little textural crunch on top, but it came in its own separate container again. Yeah, another plastic. Waste, which again, makes me feel great to be able,

it's a power trip to be able to waste so much. Fuck you to the earth. But that's the other thing is like from a consumer perspective, it's unavoidable. Like shop at a grocery store and totally avoid plastic waste. It's just impossible. But they obviously do. Every salad dressing comes in its own.

Its own little cup separately. There's often like, every dish seems like it has some sort of separate, to keep a crunchy component, you know, fresh and crunchy. It's like comes in its own separate like serving container. There is an abnormal amount of waste at Goop Kitchen. But again, all in service of making the meal better. Yeah, and I will say along those lines, I got the matcha chia pudding,

which is it's not on their dessert menu, although I think it is technically a dessert. It's up there with the apps, but it is meant more of a sweet treat. We took a little spoonful of Spoon Man's Loving Spoonful of it. Look, I think I like matcha more than you, Mitch. More Two Spoon Man's Loving Spoonfuls? Two Spoon Man's Loving Spoonfuls.

One day. It's confidant. I thought it was more of an award. It will never be used again. It's confidant, probably will never. I thought it was more of an award. It's, well, you know, it will never be used again. So it doesn't matter. This is coconut yogurt chia seeds, matcha and coconut milk. And then it came with dates and crunchy rice

and pumpkin seeds, which you could mix in there. That was kind of a nice green paste. That was pretty flavorful, you know, not overly sweet, which I appreciate. But also if you're talking like, if this is my dessert, it's maybe a little bit disappointing. Speaking of, which I'm sure Emma's thrilled that I'm holding a chocolate brownie above her dog.

I'll be very... She will not care one bit. This is another piece of dessert. Yes. Is it a sea salt brownie? Chocolate brownie, but... I believe that's what it is, I'll get the answer. I'm gonna share it with the both of you.

I don't know if the poor Mitch loses his shit. Is it gluten-free though? It's a dark chocolate sea salt brownie. Thank you, Emma. Do you see a GF tag? I don't, because I'm reading this from Mitch's text in the group chat. It is gluten-free, it is made with almond flour.

My little fucker. I'm gonna take a little bite of this. You're all up. Hey, C.M.O., you want bite of this. Yo, up. Casey, Emma, you want any of this? Yeah, it's pretty good. I'll take a bite here. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. Why, Casey? It's not bad, I tell you.

Yeah, it's got some salt. That salt got a little bit of... There's chocolate chunks in it. What do you guys think? It's a snack. It's a good one. It's a good one. It's got some salt. That salt got a little bit of a... There's chocolate chunks in it. What do you guys think? Very good.

Snack. I would think there's gluten in there. Yeah. I would think there's gluten in there too. I do find that gluten-free desserts, like chocolate desserts, like gluten-free cupcakes or like gluten-free brownies, tend to be so like ooey-gooey chocolatey. Yes. But I kind of love that.

Yeah. No, it was good. I want to make it clear that my joke was that I wanted the more of the brownie, whatever, who gives a shit. We all got it. We all got it. Yeah, yeah, all right, it's fine. I actually thought the joke was that you just didn't want

them to have anything. I mean, that also too was a part of it, and people online or whatever. I don't care about online anymore. Who cares? It doesn't matter. Come up a lot. He can't. I just been watching Ricky Dervais and I watch the spells, Chappelle's newest special. You just should be able to say what you want to say. You know what I mean?

Anyways, the brownie was that that was a decent for a gluten-free brownie that was delicious. I think with chocolate you can, you know, it's usually a little bit better. If you're ordering from this healthy-ish place and is for a work lunch, but you're like, I want to get myself a treat, that one fits the treat slot,

I think better than the matcha pudding. Yeah. Yeah. Do you guys think that Goop could survive? How much of an LA thing is it? Like, do you think that this is, obviously you could be in other big cities, but like, do you think that you could have a Goop kitchen in, you know, a Midwestern city?

Well, they're, okay, so there are five of them in the greater LA area, although one of them is down in Orange County, so that's a little bit, you know, removed. There's still a very- Oh, the busiest one is right. In Costa Mesa, it's still a very, it would still be a very moneyed location. Not that all of LA is rich,

but like, you know, that's those are the neighborhoods that's servicing. I think it could do okay in- It was seven miles away from me. It was in Beverly Hills. That was the closest one I found. Yeah, I think it could do okay in like, I think it would do okay in New York.

And I think that you could find, there are some pockets where there are like people with like a lot of money, like, you know, like Phoenix or something, you know, they just like, like a lot of, I think there are a lot of people with like disposable income where I think this place could do okay. Sweet Greens are everywhere now, right?

Sweet Greens are everywhere. When right? Sweet Greens are everywhere. When I ordered Sweet Green in Boston, my mom and sister had never had it. And then we got it from like, it was from like Ink Spot. It was like, you know what I mean? Like the equivalent of Derby Street, you know? One of those fancy little mall towns or whatever. But we've never seen a place like really scale up

nationally and persist on a ghost kitchen only basis. Yeah, yeah. But we've never seen a place like really scale up nationally and persist on a ghost kitchen only basis. I think they would have to have some physical locations in order to stick around or in order to have like a national footprint. Here's where I think they had a big mess. Goop soup, why don't I have Goop Soup? Yeah, they have soups, but they don't call it Goop Soup.

They should have one that says Goop Soup. That's a great point. I am not disagreeing with you. I feel like it's beneath them. I mean, again, but then they also had like pepper pot. Pot, pepperoni with it. Right, if you have pepperoni pots. Pepperoni pots.

If you have a pepperoni pot, you're not above Goop Soup. Yeah. Goop Soup should be, I think Goop Soup should be one of the, it should be available. Just call the section of the menu Goop Soup. be, I think Goop soup should be one of the, it should be available. Just call the section of menu Goop soup. There we go. Like here are Goop soup, not everyone needs to be called a Goop soup.

Which brings me to another thing, I don't know if I like the name Goop. I don't love the name Goop, but it is fitting for food. Sure. Because you're eating, like what, a lot of food is Goop. But why is it called Goop? Why is the company called Goop? Is it an acronym? No, I think it's like facial,

beauty products are like Goops more. I think it doesn't seem as negative in a beauty context as it does in a food context. Okay, all right, that makes sense. Or it seems kind of clotted. Yeah. According to, I'm just reading this from Wikipedia. According to Paul Tro, the company's name came

from Peter Arnell telling her that successful internet companies have double O's in their name. So she was like, Google, how about Goop? Where's there, can we think of another example? Can we think of another example besides Google? Yahoo? Yahoo? Yahoo and Google.

That's also, it started in 2020 and Yahoo and Google? 2008. Yeah, 2008, okay okay Yahoo Stowe is So it's it's a doubt so she took a double O and inserted it between G and P for Gwyneth Baltrow So with it, you know, that's like the more calculated side of this, you know alternative medicine Wow institution. Yeah, it's it's I't, I don't love the name, but I don't hate it in the context of a kitchen. This has changed a lot for me.

I don't even know how I feel about going to the Paltrow. I don't know if this is, I feel like this is bad. It makes me feel like the whole thing is dumber than I even thought it was. I mean, I didn't ever like the name. Yeah. Interesting. It's just another of the things that women in tech have to face is skepticism from people out here.

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We'll each go around, give our closing arguments, if you will, on Goop Kitchen, and then end that by giving it a score from zero to five forks. You are our guest. To my left, we'll begin with you. I mean, I hate to give it, I really think it's great.

And I think it's not really great, but it's good enough to overcome all the skepticism going in, which I think everyone naturally has. And so I'm tempted to say five forks, but that seems crazy, because it's also like, it's Goop Kitchen and it doesn't have physical location. I think I'll give it four and a half forks.

Four and a half forks, very good score. That's a great score. We loved the idea of doing this place because it was- Great pitch. A great restaurant choice. I went into it, I was very suspicious of Goop. I didn't think I was gonna like it. It's undeniable that the food quality is good.

I mean, it's crazy that the food is as good as it is. And I can't believe the pasta is probably gluten-free too, huh? Yeah, probably. Fuck. That's crazy. I think that, yeah, if you're doing a work launch, it would be great if you're in a writer's room where you couldn't complain too much.

It is a little bit expensive. I do think that it is, I mean, you're right, that it's like whatever, sweet green, you're getting a $20 salad too, so it's not like it's that. I'm not saying it's cheap. I'm not even saying it's affordable. What I'm saying is that it's basically at price parity with other places sure in the same category I

I don't want to say I was blown away But I feel like I was nearly blown away by what it was I guess and I don't like it I don't want to like it. I guess is more of my issue is I don't want to like good women in tech I Love women in tech. I love women in tech. Lara Croft. Princess Peach. I don't like ghost kitchens either. And then like it's, you know, it is at least like at a dedicated ghost kitchen is not working out of a restaurant.

I don't like ghost kitchens either. I don't like ghost kitchens either. I don't like ghost kitchens either. I don't like ghost kitchens either. I don't like ghost kitchens either. I don't like ghost kitchens either. I don't like ghost kitchens either. I don't like ghost kitchens either.

I don't like ghost kitchens either. I don't like ghost kitchens either. I don't like ghost kitchens either. I don't like ghost kitchens either. And then like it's, you know, it is at least like at a dedicated ghost kitchen. It's not working out of a restaurant. I don't, but I don't like ghost kitchens taking, like, you know, taking over delivery and stuff like that. It's, it's, you know, Pasquale's kitchen is like, it is just Chuck E. Cheese. Right. Weird shit like that.

But I don't know. It seems, it seems craven, right? Like, it must be bad in some way, Goop Kitchen. The optics of it are, you know, it leads someone to approach this with some healthy skepticism. I think that was at least you and I going in. And I'm not sure, Luke, of your initial visits,

if you were similarly like, what was this place supposed to be? Yeah, well, how did Goop come up as a place to order from? I think somebody on staff had had it and was like, we should do it. And we were all like rolling our eyes and then this exact thing. And then you're like, oh, shit, this is good.

And there were other things on the menu that we would have liked to have gotten. And then you just get it three days out of five, you know? Yeah. How did Susser feel about it? Susser even fine with it, you know? Wow. Wow.

Because you're thinking this guy wants a meatball sub every day if he could. I will say. It's true. In that context, Susser very agreeable. I can't think of one time I felt like he complained about the food. Really? Yeah. What the fuck?

He is like, like, what a delightful man. Okay. Okay. We know very different stuff. But was this a situation, because there have been rooms with both, was this a situation where lunch was paid for by production? Yes.

So that's why. Okay, he's getting free food. Yeah. And that was the issue. But that doesn't stop. A lot of people still complain. 100% No. Yeah. It's like, it's the most entitled crazy. Oh, for sure. We should have lost the strike. Yeah. It was awful group of people. I look, I this place has some strikes against it.

Ghost kitchen, celebrities name attached, all the sort of, you know, bullshit wellness that I thought was going to be a bigger presence of this menu. We didn't talk about it. It's not like, does not everything has like, it's like, like with Omega B proteins and, you know, antioxidants, it's not like a bunch of these ingredients.

These are just sort of like, you know, normal things that would be in a dish without a bunch of accoutrements ladle onto them. I think, so approaching this place, as I've said multiple times, thinking it's gonna suck and being pleasantly surprised by how good it is. If this place was called just like, hey, fresh kitchen, like, hey, have you guys had fresh kitchen? Let's order from fresh kitchen today, you know? And I got this. I kind of be over the moon.

I'm pretty happy with it. That said, it has a ceiling which is kind of like work lunch. Like we got it for dinner and it was good. We enjoyed it, but it's like, is this going to be a fun dinner that we're going to get just like on it when we're at home on a Friday night with no guests? I don't know if that this going to be a fun dinner that we're going to get just like on it But when we're at home on a Friday night with no guests I I don't know if that's going to be a thing that we're going to that will be a regular go-to But it would be a thing we would maybe get like you know once in a while

So I think I think in terms of like hey, this is a place that that fits the the healthy ish work lunch niche I Think we got to call the Golden Plate Club. Jesus. The Goulden Plate Club for today, because I give it four forks for Good Kitchen. Two O's. You're saying Goulden, like. Goulden Plate Club. I thought you were saying, I thought you were gonna say, like the Goopden Plate Club.

Could also say the Goopden Plate Club. The Goopden Plate Club, yeah, yeah. The Goopden Plate Club, four forks. Congratulations to Gwyneth Paltrow and the whole team over there. Wow, I was surprised. I'm shocked. I'm shocked. Goopton Play Club. Goopton, but yeah. Yeah. The Goopton Play Club, four forks, congratulations to Gwyneth Paltrow and the whole team over there. Wow, I was surprised, I'm shocked.

It does make me think that the Spoon Man has two O's next to each other, very good brain. That is a great point. And we like Googling Yahoo, the Spoon Man is kind of a big business, you know, a big deal. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Wow. The Spoon Man is kind of a big business, you know, a big deal. Are you accusing me of using the same business plan as Gwyneth Paul? I'm literally just impressed with the branding.

I had to get to know a surprise, as you said, that it's taken off so much. Fucking burger, boy. Nice fucking name. Didn't you come up with that? Whatever. I was going to one fork this motherfucker coming in. I was like, oh, I got Gwyneth Paltrow's pop up in the boot kitchen.

I don't know, fucking one fork this piece of shit. I can't believe it. I had a great meal, two great meals. I know, the food is good. It's good, it's fucking good. The food is good, I mean it is specifically healthy. It's a feeling of god damn it, it's awesome, fuck. I think if that if it was three days a week,

like if I was getting it, I'd be like, ugh, fucking goop again, maybe would get a little bit. But that's every restaurant, right? That's like, yeah. And also I would be happy that I'm getting like a healthy lunch that actually tastes decent. So, and like that's what you do, like secretly you're like, oh, I want, that's why I like,

like I came around on sweet green, I figure out what to order and I'm like, this is healthy enough and I can eat it every day if I need to and I don't care. I think there's a lot of variety on the menu. I think the portions are a good size. It doesn't feel well being expensive. It doesn't feel like really small.

Like I think you get a good amount of food and the salads are pretty filling. I really, yeah, and I don't, I wonder if they could open a like, take their pizza concept and make a, like a brick and mortar restaurant out of it. They could definitely have a brick and mortar in Beverly Hills. Yeah.

Cause that would have both like, you know, the rich yoga moms there and then like the, and the rich old people and then also tourists would go. Like they could absolutely sustain it in that neighborhood. You know what they should do? Yeah, the seven head of lettuce or something. Just more than just the pepperoni pots. That is fun. Like her head's in the box.

Yeah, or just like what's in the box? Like calling. There we go. That's much better than the seven head of lettuce. No, that's also good. It should also be in there. The spoiler. Yeah, it's a bit of a spoiler.

Bit of a spoiler. It's nice. What's in the box, that's great. And then it's the head of lettuce. Yeah, that so good. It should also be in there. The spoiler. Yeah, it's a bit of a spoiler. It's a bit of a spoiler. A box is nice. What's in the box, that's great. And then it's the head of lettuce. Yeah, that's good. That's good. That's good.

That's good. Inspired by seven, I could say, that's fun. Yeah. If they're gonna do pepperoni pots, they should dive into some other stuff. Totally agree. I wonder how Claudia, one of the stars of your show, she's very much a foodie, Claudia O'Dartie.

I wonder if she's tried Goop Kitchen. I'm gonna quiz her about it today. Send her a text. I'll tell her, well, I'm gonna send her one now. It's in Australia. It's like nighttime there. Fuck. Is it?

What's the time? I mean, it probably would be, but I feel like- What is the time gap exactly? I think she uses it as an excuse to like respond on her own time- Sure, of course, yeah. She feels like it and like knowing that no one will ever

actually look up what the time difference in Australia is. Apparently right now it's the morning. Is it? It's the morning tomorrow. Oh my God, that's right. It's the future. So yeah, yeah. Yeah, find out what's gonna happen on the news.

Claudia, what is tomorrow like? What's the first question? There's a war going on. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Are you trying to goop kitchen? All right, we'll see what she says. I do think it, I do wonder, I like, I think that it's like good, but is it like,

if you're like a foodie is not gonna want it either Right like it's not like good in that way. I'm always ranking these chains I think we're both doing this in terms of what they're aspiring to do Yeah, and this place is like it's not trying to be like a fancy sit-down rest high-kind No, but it's priced like again like a tender greens are like a sweet green. It's it's priced as that sort of like, you know Upper mid-tier You know, you're a lawyer for lawyers to get lunch at exactly 100% and I think it's doing great at that Inspiring to do that. All right, we should do a segment

I'm Nick Weigar. I'm Nick Weigar. I'm Nick Weigar and I'm Nick Weiger. All that and Andy Rooney tonight on Fake Choose. Get a Sigma is Fake Choose. So Mitch and Luke must determine which off-brand serial names are real and which ones were made up by Amelia Marino, our associate producer. You regret coming on the podcast at all. I apologize. This is like so exciting, again. We want to have you on forever.

This is the truth. This has been fun. And then the strike happened. We were gonna do like a killing it. We were gonna have high decor which we did have in Claudia to promote it in you. Killing it and twisted metal, both kind of casualties of timing in terms of the strike

and when you could promote it, unfortunately. But a very funny show, people should check out on Peacock. It's great, starring, not starring, but. Yeah, not. Like, really. I mean, that's not a starting. I would say some could say starring. It depends on what you, you know. I will say the image is character Dean Trovia is my,

my favorite name that I've ever like. It's so hot. I have 20 years of writing. So somebody else in the room pitched that and I don't remember who, It's so hard, of 20 years of writing. Somebody else in the room pitched that and I don't remember who, but it's the happiest I've ever been. It's so hard to come up with a name that is not,

that feels real and specific, but doesn't feel like a comedy name, but also doesn't feel boring. And then a name that can clear, because if all the time, you can't give anyone a name that a real person actually has or legal, your legal team kicks it back to you.

And so Dean Tirovi is like a true stealing fire from the gods kind of moment where I was like, oh, it's great, it's the best. And enough so that we like talked about spinning the character off based entirely on the name, not like, not the performance. The performance, no way. No, you're very, you're so funny in the performance. The performance is no way. No, you're so funny in the show. It was my first time being in New Orleans.

This was when I went down there to shoot the show. I remember. People can... It was the first season there. You just bought your house, you seemed a little crazed. I was out of my mind. It was a bad... It was a crazy...

My mom... I left to go do the show. I left, my mom in LA, it was wild. It was great. I was very happy to do it. It was like right during COVID still and yes, everything was crazy and yeah, did you get bed bugs? I didn't get bed bugs, no. I think I brought bed bugs.

A lot of people got bed bugs in the production. We were flying people down in the whatever hotel they were putting people up had bed bugs for sure. It's a bomber. It's kind of gross that I probably just didn't notice. People can check out both Killin' It and Twisted Metal on Peacock if they're not on Peacock. Check it out, get a trial check that's still up.

Bjorn Lurpus was my Parks and Rec name. And then Kyle, I got a normal, on Brooklyn I got a normal, I got Kyle Murphy, which is very normal. Yeah, that was like a, which is very normal. Yeah, that was like a had to be normal. Cause, well, so, cause the, the, the, the Parks and Rec thing that Mike does is that's like a very Mike shore thing, which is when you give, when you write scripts for actors and you just like somebody's like TV news reporter, you know, like man on street, you write often in the script, it just says like man, you know, and then when you just have one line and then the actor, you know, like Man on Street, you write, often in the script, it just says like, man, you know, and when you just have one line, and then the actors start,

and then always what happens is you cast someone in a bit part, and then their agent calls, and is like, they're requesting that you give the character a name. Right, looks better in the credits. Yeah, because it looks better for them to be like, he played, you know, Steven on Parks and Rec. And everyone's like, well, Steven, that's obviously.

Right, as opposed to man in bar. Yeah, exactly. And if you, because otherwise you look at your IMDB and it's just like, you know, nurse, nurse, doctor, bartender, whatever. It's huge. That guy, he's a shit. Don't guy.

That is, I literally have a role where I'm called sweaty neckbeard. It is a shit. Don't die. I mean, I literally have a role where I'm called sweaty neckbeard. That is a real, and I audition for like gross guy. Like all the time. Yeah. You do audition for that. And so Mike, Mike sure started giving every character, cause all these names are never set out loud.

So the characters have, if you ever look at the credits for Parks and Rec, every minor character has a crazy name to the point where I think they would have room sort of pitch on these things that are essentially like Easter eggs or sub-Easter egg. And sometimes it's sort of like, fuck you to the, I feel like to the actors,

because the actors don't actually want to have a silly name. They just want to be like, you want a name that makes it sound like you might be the lead, which is like you want the name of your character to be like Aaron Steele or something, you want the name of your character to be like Aaron Steele or something, you know? Not, what was your?

Oh, I loved Bjorn Lurpus. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's so much better than like, like, you know, Stranger or whatever. Yeah, much better than. A public diet meeting, you know. Diet meeting, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good, a good thing for all you writers. Yeah, 100%. No, right, names in there. good thing for all you writers. No, 100% no right names in there All right, so this is this is fake choose serial thriller edition Mitch and Luke must determine which off-brand serial names are real and which are fake first up Crispy colors I Guess buzz in with your name because there's only one one answer crispy colors

Mitch fake. No, I'm sorry, Mitch. It's real. Crispy colors is an off brand fruity pebbles. That makes sense. I forgot that this game colors. Crispy colors. I've also, I forgot that this game sucks.

It's going to be this where you're like, oh yeah, I guess that is fake. 10 times. I mean, you could like react more. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Crispy colors. Oh, crispy colors. It makes me think like fruity pebbles. I'm gonna say true, Nick. Well, you already, but no, you're...

You got it wrong before you gotta have to see more reaction. Okay, all right, all right. I'm gonna change the colors. Makes me think Fruity Pebbles, but I don't think it's real. I'm gonna say false, Nick. Mitch, it's real. Oh my God, what?

Oh, I should have thought since it's like Fruity Pebbles. That is true. See, there we go. Yeah, just some of them. All right, all right, all right. Give us a second one. Next up, Freaky Fruits. Freaky Fruits, huh?

I don't know if it's me with fruity pebbles. Oh, sorry. I heard Luke. I heard Luke. I'm gonna say false. Freaky fruits is an off-brand tricks that's also real. Oh my God. You put two real ones in a row.

Two real in a row. That's like, well, now you know what the next one's gonna be is false. Well, we'll see. Is it real or is it false? Is it fake chews? Mystery squares. Mitch. Yeah.

Mystery squares, okay. So mystery squares makes me think of maybe a cinnamon toast crunch. You know, you don't know where to get. Oh, I guess they kind of do define what cinnamon toast crunch is. It's cinnamon toast and, you know, a crunchy cereal. Mystery squares, that doesn't make sense.

I'm gonna go false. But you are correct. This one is fake. Wow. So there's 10? There are 10. Okay. Okay.

Mitch is on the board. It's one to zero. All right, next up. Cream of crust. Luke. I heard Luke. It feels crazy not to buzz in. Oh no, yeah.

You can just do it always and guess forever. Cause if you just buzzed in every time, you'd beat me because you're not penalized for getting it wrong, right? No. I mean, if it helps the gameplay balance, we can add a penalty for it. I think we should probably add that.

Yeah, I think you need to. Okay, so then you would be minus, no, you'd be at zero now and you'd be at minus one. Okay. Cause otherwise it's like the Jeopardy thing where it's it's all just about buzzing in right yeah I'm sorry. What was it? I was thinking about it was it was cream of crust Cream of crust that's false. No way you are correct. No, you're both back up to zero. Okay. Come on. All right next one Skippers swallow Mitch that's that's fake

Mitch you are correct. You get that one as well. Skippers swallow? I think I captain crunched, but it's like... It is an off-brand captain crunch that Amelia made up. That sounds sexual. It's fake. It's fake. All right, next up.

The game is fake chews or fake news, I can't remember. Sweet nibiblets. Luke, false. Same logic as the last one. You are correct. Sweet Niblets, which is dubbed an off-brand Applejack, is fake. Next up. Wait, so she dubbed it an off-brand Applejack? Yeah, she put a parenthetical that was saying what it was. I don't know if I'm supposed to read that as well. It's not clear.

I like it. It shows you the thought that was put in it. Yeah. Do you want me to read that as part of the clue or do you want me to say the name the brand? Do you have them for the real ones as well? I have them for all of them. Okay. Oh, that's fun. Yeah, do it Do it. Yeah, okay Should we retake the ones we've already done? No, okay Next up Will you say the score before each? Yeah, Mitch has won, Luke has won. We are on number seven, which is

coated crunch and off-brand frosted mini-wheats. Coated crunch. Mitch, yeah, true. I'm sorry, Mitch, you're back down to zero because that one is fake. Amelia made that one up. Okay, that was good. Next up.

That one's good. Tasty-os and off-brand Cheerios. Luke, it's true. It's been too long without a true one. You are correct. You have two now. It's two to zero. So this is ours becoming like the breakdown of like what a quiz is, I guess. I mean, I guess you can metagame it in terms of like what is, you know, what would the order be? Though I think she kind of threw us off with five fake ones in a row.

Like that's pretty unconventional. This does remind me of middle school where I was like taking a quiz and I was like, well there's like three in a row that are true. So this one has to be, you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm also able to see what's real and fake here from my vantage point. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Magic treasures. I feel like now that I've revealed that I can see the answers, I should let you. Yeah, and I should, I mean, this does settle the game.

I'm gonna say true for magic treasures. You are correct, which means you tie. Wow, yeah. And tie goes to the guest, which means Luke wins. Congratulations. Oh, what? Well, attached are photos of the real cereals if we maybe wanna throw them up on the screen

after the reveal. Okay, I probably should have read that first. I didn't, that was at the end. I guess that probably would have been a better game. We could put it in the edit, I guess, yeah. Wait, did she, oh, it was only the real ones. Yeah. Okay.

You didn't Photoshop fake ones. I guess they weren't Photoshopped. That's fun. That would be a fun game. That would be a fun game, yeah. We would do that. So maybe next time we do this, we'll Photoshop some fake ones.

Right. That's not too much work, which it probably is. I didn't like saying our names. We could use AI images. We won't use AI. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

What was that you didn't like saying your names? As a way of buzzing in. Do you have another pitch? Should we buy buzzers? Should we get some sort of a noise? Should we get buzzers? Yeah. I would love to get buzzers.

Should we get buzzers that you can buzz? Let's get buzzers. I think we should get buzzers. I think we should you can buzz. I think we should get buzzers. I think we should get buzzers and Mitch should have to buzz in to speak. The fuck? Throughout the episode? Yeah, just generally. It cuts your mic every time.

Bullshit. That was fake news. Fake news, sorry. I said one question about the copyright stuff. Yeah. The AI, you said earlier it was obviously satire, but like, this is sort of a journalism enterprise, right? I guess so. Like, it doesn't feel to me that you could say

that this is obviously, I mean, it is obvious, of course it's comedy, but it's like, not parody, right? Cause you are talking about real places and giving like, doing real reviews. Oh. I didn't know. Yeah, I don't know how you classify it exactly. talking about real places and giving like real reviews. I don't know how you classify it exactly. I mean like it's a, if we're talking about it. I got discovered at a point Emma.

Just like a restaurant about your feedback, let's open the feedback. Today we have an email. Wait, hold on a second. I want to address the AI thing for a second. Okay. We made a website, we did a bonus, a Christmas special,

which we reviewed Rudolph's Roadside, Grill or something. It was a fake restaurant which we reviewed with Gabriel and Fran as characters, not as themselves. Yes. And so, I was like, it'll be fun to make a website. So Amelia did a ton of work.

She made this website. And I was like, it would be cool if there was like images on there and I made a mistake. I said, throw up some images of some, I was like, sure we can use AI images. Cause I, and look, the thing I forgot about is that that's always stealing. It's just stealing other people's artwork

and creating something. Someone spent a long time on this. We asked an artist friend what to do when they were like, use a high. We paid people for the work to do it. And we paid people, like it was a mistake and I didn't think of it in the same way. Like, oh, because then artists, you know,

there were some artists who were upset about it. And I was like, oh, that doesn't make sense. I get being absolutely upset about it. It made sense to be upset about it. But it was a thing that I, we weren't even gonna try to, it was gonna be a thing that people would find. It was supposed to be bonus content, but it was a good point that AI should never be used,

maybe in any context. And like, I mean, that's maybe overboard. There's probably some areas that should be used. No, bitch, no, no, you're getting in trouble again. I'm sorry, I don't know if it's a tool. I don't know if it's some science or I don't know some shit in the medical field or whatever, I have no idea.

I don't know AI, I don't get it, but it doesn't make me feel, I felt bad because we had talked about it all strike and I do think that like taking over someone's likeness is fucked up and writing Scripts with AI is fucked up and then it should be you know like you should pay art and we do pay artists all the time But I just I felt bad it was a fuck up and Nick Nick had nothing to do with it It was my that's nice you to say but you also don't have to say that I would take it's the truth

I also don't think you have anything to apologize for because I don't think it was that big of a deal I think the reaction was a little overblown, but maybe I'm get myself in hot water I think as far as use cases go It would be nice get some fucking heat off my back as far as use cases go for like something like this It's just like this is a dumb bit that we probably wouldn't have done anyway that we're that no one's making any money off of yes It feels like the kind of situation like the very specific kind of situation where this sort of technology, this sort of generative technology kind of makes sense to you. And we weren't going to promote the show with it either. It was a thing that literally we wanted people to stumble onto, but whatever. But I understand that it comes across as like,

hey, you're using whatever this technology. And AI does steal art in a way. The shitty technology to promote your show. Yeah, I get it. I get it. It's like, whatever. It's fine. Everything's fine. It was do it with AI or don't do it at all. Those were the options. Yes. And maybe we just don't do it at all was the answer. Yeah, that's probably what will happen next time. That's what it won't happen.

But anyways, we have great artist friends who... Guys, this was really intense and not like the fun experience that I was hoping for. Just to have. I really didn't enjoy that in that segment. Look, you're not gonna get a Gene Trovia performance on AI, that's all I'll say. It's true. It's the truth.

We fucked up and then now that we acknowledge it, I had to say something. We can edit you out probably using AI. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

We'll throw in an AI Rob load. Just like. All right guys, fine with AI. I'm sure. Just like a restaurant value feedback, let's open up the feedback. And today we have an email from at terrymcgee on the DoseGourd.

Terry writes, hey Doughboys, happy 2024. And congratulations congratulations being mentioned on my favorite TV show, Jeopardy. Wow. I'm a former contestant myself. Wow. And a trivia fanatic. I even host two weekly pub trivia nights, which makes me wonder, what is your favorite food related trivia fact? Mine is that Doritos were first invented in Disneyland and a Mexican restaurant sponsored by Frito Lake. I did not know that. that's a good one Thanks again for all the laughs my I'll look this one is Something we said on the podcast, but I do really like that Hydrox predates Oreos like that that that

Oreos are the Pepsi the Hydrox is coke But but Pepsi won in this case and became the far more iconic brand and now people like Hydrox Oh, you mean like generic Oreos? No, they fucking invented the vanilla sandwich cookie. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know if I can think of any food facts off the top of my head. I know I know some.

I've always been like really interested. It's, I don't think it's a single fact, but in the history of like the Dr. Pepper bottling company and its relationship to Coke and Pepsi. And they're like a real success story in that they have managed to stay alive by playing the two giant brands off each other. Cause in different regions, in different parts of same regions,

they are, it'll either be bottled, Dr. Pepper will either be bottled by Coke or by Pepsi. Like sometimes you go and it's in a Coke soda machine at a movie theater and then you go somewhere else in the country and it's sold with the Pepsi's and it's because they sign like these individual deals and they refuse to just say we're they had more leverage than just saying we're going to make Dr. Pepper just a Coke, you know, it not a subsidiary but where it's always bottled by Coke and so both Coke and Pepsi have

forever has spent all this time trying to come up with a Dr. Pepper competitor so they could just wash their hands of having to be in business with the Dr. Pepper bottling, which is where Mr. Pibb comes in and Pepsi had like Dr. Slice for a while. Oh yeah. Which was like their, and they've failed terribly. They've neither has ever been able to successfully knock,

come up with a knockoff Dr. Pepper. either has ever been able to successfully knock, come up with a knockoff Dr Pepper. It's very similar to what happened with 7up, which is also like Pepsi doesn't own, but then they're always, the reason they're always trotting out Sierra Mist or Starry is cause they'd like to not have to, they'd like to not have to pay 7up. I get they lose money by having to sell seven up as their lemon-lined beverage,

as opposed to one that they fully own. But they've also failed at that. That is fascinating. I actually didn't know all of this really at all. Amazing soda facts. Yeah. Soda Pop quiz, could that be a segment? Quincy is the hometown of Dunkin' Donuts.

That's my favorite. That's the one you want to write and Google Docs Soda Pop Quiz for later. He's, I guess, taking notes to someone. I think to Emma. Yeah, he's always talking to you. Emma's here if you want to do that, but it's more like, you know,

division of labor is more like an Amelia task. But Emma, if you want to do it, just send it over to Amelia. Soda Pop Quiz could probably be a same. Jimmy's looking at my hand. It's pretty cute. I guess we already have Slop Quiz, but it could be Slop Quiz colon, soda, pop quiz.

The, that's a great little bit of soda lore. It's making me think of a couple of other things. One is that I said this on the podcast before, but I'll recap that I worked on a couple of Skittles ads years ago, and the thing that Skittles was very adamant about internally is that the language, they never say Skittle, because Skittle is not the brand, the brand that Skittles was very adamant about internally is that the language they never say skittle Because Skittle is not the brand the brand is Skittles

So an individual piece of Skittles candy is a Skittles lentil and so I always think of that when I look at Skittles I was like these are all called Skittles lentils Which sounds gross. Yeah, it sounds disgusting. You talk about all the time and it is gross. Thought you knew food You were eating so did we all right right, so there's Sears 21. Oh, another one is that Arby's. People are like, Arby's, it stands for roast beef, it does not. It's raffle brothers.

That's right. The guys who founded it were the raffle brothers. That's where Arby comes from. Avocados are fruit. Caesar salad, I did actually just see this the other day because I watched like food now. Invented in Mexico? It's invented in Mexico.

If you want it right now. People know that, right? Because the place is still open. Caesars, I believe, is what it's called. But now that there's like TikToks about food, and there was one about the Large Monts sandwich shop, which we were just talking about in there. It was like, I'm at the Large Monts sandwich.

I know it's like, we've known about this for 20 years. How about, here's one, and I've seen this in the Dose Gourd, but I knew this one, which is that Hawaiian pizza was invented in Canada. An Ontario resident who I don't think had any connection to Hawaii. Makes sense. Fucking nasty. How dare you? Hawaiian pizza is not good. It's good.

Ham is too slimy to put on pizza. Put bacon instead. That's your issue? The ham? Ham is my issue. Ham is not good. It's good. Ham is too slimy to put on pizza. Put bacon on it, Seth. That's your issue, the ham? Ham is my issue. Ham is my issue. The pineapple doesn't bother me as much. I think I like the sweet and salty combination.

Updated quality. You like one of these? I will say, I don't always love it when it's like a big long slice of ham kind of on there. I prefer it when it's like chopped up, whether it's like a big long slice of ham kind of on there. I prefer it when it's like chopped up, whether it's like a little bit of bacon or it feels like it's been, you know, more, the ham's more bite-sized.

Little more texture to it. You know what else I like is the, I like that spicy Hawaiian, that fiery Hawaiian. You throw a little, cause I'm a bit of a heat seeker. You throw those jalapenos on there. It's a lot of fun. Update from Claudia. Yes.

The future is fantastic for her. And also, yes, it's not bad. The problem is it's gonna air. This'll air. It'll be the past. Yeah, it'll be the past. That's okay, people figured out. Yes, it's not bad as delivery food for Goop.

Yeah, I think it's a fair assessment. Everyone's had Goop. Do it in her accent. She gets so mad. I did like an impression once. She's like, impressions are bad. She's like, in front of me. Because I did like, who did I do?

I did like Bobcat Gold or like Gilbert Godfrey. And she's like, ew, she aided it. I also had a rowdy mermaid strawberry tonic from Goop, which I didn't mention. How was that? It was pretty good. It was good. I'd never seen that brand ever before. So it was a...

Rowdy mermaid? Mm-hmm. It was a strawberry tonic. It's... Sounds like a bar in Bolter's Gate. Strawberry? I guess so. I got to play a game, I should love it.

Strawberry and bright hibiscus merge with detoxifying power of dandelion root and raw chicory. Wow. It was pretty good. Tastes like a soda. Anyway. Hit us up with your favorite food facts, hashtag funfoodfacts,

and we will repost some of our favorites. And if you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants, you can email us at feedbackatbirdfuck.com or leave us a voicemail at 830 Godot. That's 830-463-6844. Luke Delta-Ditchy, thanks so much for being here. What a change. Thanks for being here. Thanks for making time for us. Is there anything you'd like to say about our AI issue that we talked about earlier?

A big good thing for you to comment on also like if it's weird if I don't have Mitch over at my home, if that's weird. And then also, if you have any sort of pitch on the titties joke that Mitch was gonna make, this would be a good thing to throw out there. I just feel like the problem with the AI bit is your commitment to workers would feel, and your apology would feel more genuine if we hadn't had the joke earlier

where you've refused the minuscule bite of brownie. You didn't want it going. Right. And it's shared with not, you know. Two hours to the people who work for it. Yeah, exactly. To me, it sort of makes the whole thing feel more fraught. Yeah, no, you're right.

No, that's fair. And it also does suck when, like, I mean, like, like when you're, like, you know, when your boss is like, do this thing, but we don't think of it. I mean, like, when you're, like, you know, when your boss is like, do this thing. But we don't think of it, I mean, like, I, we've said this before, I think we mean it genuinely. We think of Emma as our boss. We're scared of, we're scared of getting in trouble. Honestly, how all employee-employer like, the relationship should work. We should be scared of their workforce.

I agree. Yeah. They could destroy us if they wanted to. It's true. But you know, when an episode ends, you and I just talk politics for like 30 minutes. Remember records at all. It's really up to me to keep you from getting canceled.

So. It was an honor to have you. I wish that we had you. I'm sure to have you sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm And until I'm sorry about everything else. Yes. And thanks. Thanks for introducing us to Goop. Yeah, I'll treat this one. And until next time for the Spoonman,

Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weigher. Happy eating. Yeah. And we throw it now to our ad chat, Killian. Wow. Killian the ad chat here reminding you always that Doe Boys is produced by Emma Urbrink, associate produced by Amelia Marino, engineered by Casey Donahue, and video edited by Mike Dorfman. Want to watch the episode? Subscribe to our YouTube channel, Doe Boys Podcast. Doe Boys t-shirts, hats, and more are available exclusively from kinshipgoodsviabirdfuck.com. Coming up next on the Doe Boys Double, Mort Burke, aka ForkBurp, joins in the run-up to the big game for our own bowl, the Doughboys Bread Bowl.

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