Doughboys - Jeni's Splendid Ice Creams with Lilan Bowden

Episode Date: February 9, 2023

Lilan Bowden (Andi Mack, Murderville, Shrinking, Brewster High) joins the 'boys to talk NorCal, Pine and Crane, and noodles vs rice before a review of Jeni's Splendid Ice Creams. Plus, another edition of Pie In This Guy. Sources for this week's intro: https://youtu.be/DgfumenJbXE https://www.the-sun.com/news/1788334/pelosis-fridge-ice-cream-blamed-election/ https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-progressives-ice-cream-election-house https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/i-can-t-shut-up-about-about-nancy-pelosi-s-hot-dog-diet/ar-AA174s5X https://www.businessinsider.com/nancy-pelosi-diet-ice-cream-breakfast-hot-dog-lunch-2023-1 https://jenis.com/pages/jeni-brittonWant more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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In November of 2020, amidst the COVID lockdowns that seem at once so recent and so distant, and the presidential election campaign that feels similarly, James Corden, the TV host too insufferable for the Brits, welcomed a special guest to his late-late show via spotty Wi-Fi, Nancy Pelosi, the first woman speaker of the House of Representatives. In the sort of wild miscalculation that only millionaire politicians seem capable of, Pelosi attempted to appear relatable by showcasing her stockpile of $12 a pint artisanal ice cream, artfully crammed into two separate $24,000 sub-zero brand freezers. The incident was ridiculed on both right-wing and left-wing media as Pelosi was pilloried as self-parody of the

out-of-touch-rich liberal, the rare James Corden interaction where the person who got canceled was not James Corden. Nevertheless, she persisted. In subsequent interviews, Pelosi revealed that her frozen dairy collection was not for dessert but to kick off her day. Her rigid meal regimen consists of chocolate ice cream for breakfast and a hot dog with mustard and relish for lunch. The association with a cloistered powerful was a second bit of negative press associated with Pelosi's favorite ice cream purveyor, the chain having endured a listeria scare a few years prior. Still, the Creamery, founded in Columbus, Ohio in 2002 by chef Jenny Britton, has a loyal fandom across class and culture lines

and today has nearly 70 parlors across the country. Pelosi retired from House leadership with the beginning of the 118th Congress. But the Columbus-based Creamery she gave an inadvertent viral marketing boost continues to thrive. With its scoop shops, nationwide shipping and retail sales from freezers in grocery stores, not just in politicians' mansions. This week on Doe Boys, Jenny's Splendid Ice Creams. Welcome to Doe Boys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, Deflady for Brady, the Spoon Man, Mike Mitchell. Matt from Michigan sent that in. Sorry Spoon Man couldn't resist with a new movie coming

out slash existing at all, Spoon Nation for Life, roastspoonman at gmail.com. First of all, he's a Michigan guy and Brady is a Michigan. So, I mean, he's just making fun of his own. I mean, I don't know if he likes the Wolverines. Didn't he go to Cal too? He was a Michigan man. Oh, he was a Michigan guy? Is he from NorCal? Is that the connection? Yeah, he's from NorCal. He went to Michigan. Okay, that's what it is. Wags, look, the cat's out of the bag and also the cat's right next to me because I'm sick. That's right. I'm zooming in.

You're coming to us remotely from the Spoon Manor. You are sitting there in front of your many stairs and I hope you feel better. I'm sorry you're going through it. Well, here's the funny thing is that I meant to say up top that I just didn't feel like coming in. That was going to be my joke, but I forgot to say it. Oh, that's funny. You can do it. You can still do that when we can just have Emma edit it in. I didn't feel like coming in. Mitch, piece of shit. Wags the cat's out of the bag. Then we transition into that. Yeah, there we go. Then we go back to that. So Emma's got that note. She'll fix it. Yeah.

And also, I have this little beta ass sick voice and my mic keeps auto-adjusting, making me go hot. I don't like that, but I filmed on Tuesday. You've got it cold and you keep going hot. Isn't that ironic? Because somebody call Alanis. Here's the thing why it's back in the day. It's like being hot when you got a cold. She needs to update it. She doesn't need to update it. Yeah. She doesn't need to update. Is it also, is that not ironic? Because it can't be ironic to be in the song. I think it still works. Yeah. Okay. All right.

All right. It's like when the presidency, when you got fewer votes. Not in the election? Okay. Damn. It would be a huge hit, bigger than the last one. But yes, I'm sick. I just did a thing where I try to clear my, that was gross. I'm on camera. This is bad, but at least I don't have to be on fucking Fat Cam today. Yeah, I'm sitting here on Fat Cam. Yeah, there's a camera fucking, you got Gut Cam, fucking, they even write it, you're gut. The Head Gum Fat Cam. Head Gum Studio Exclusive. We enhance our host's obesity. We are like the fattest people in Head Gum Studio by like a country mile. It's a network of hunks. Everyone looks good. It's fucking,

it's bad news for us. But I filmed on Tuesday. I was so afraid of getting sick. Woke up the other day. I filmed Tuesday. Everything went great. Oh, everything went real great. I woke up yesterday. Sick as a dog. I'm sick. Yeah. Sick as a dog, yet you own cats. I own two. Another line for Alanis. I don't know why it's their name. Weird. Alanis, another line for Alanis. There you go. Alanis? Yeah. Alanis Morissette. Yeah, no, I feel like shit. And you know what? Here's the thing. I was afraid, I think that you and I both have this issue with each other.

But I think it's different levels for both of us. I was afraid to not come in because I thought you would be mad. No, of course not. Like I just thought you'd be mad. Why would I be mad at that? So, because you got to come in and I just thought you would be like, Mitch isn't coming in. Fucking lazy Mitch or some bullshit. That is a better angle, though. Can we just get rid, hey, Emma, can we just get rid of all the sick stuff and just run with that? Yeah, sure. Mitch is fucking lazy ass and want to come 10 minutes across town to the studio. Meanwhile, I'm coming over from the west side. You better not edit that. I'll be some

fucking bullshit from people. I told you, I've never edited a thing in my life. Thank you, Emma. But last night you were saying I was mad and I want to discuss why quickly. We got to introduce our guests, but last night we were going to start a thing where we had our guests come in and sit and then it does feel bad when they're just sitting there. Both ways are bad. I'm just waving to our guests. I feel great. I love sitting. It rocks. All right, great. Yeah, that's good. That is good. Thank you. Thank you, guests. We won't tell you what it is yet. But last night I was saying we got into an argument, a fun argument. I mean,

I was starting it to be a little devil. I did stay. I stayed up like an hour past my bedtime because I was so fucking around. It was fun. The argument was, but you were saying I'm mad. You're saying I'm livid. This is the thing you do a lot, but it's different for you because you don't care. You're just trying to rile me up more and say that I'm mad. But I was saying you were mad. I was not mad. I asked the deli boys. I was having fun. I asked the deli boys and you on a text chain and Joe Saunders. I said, by default, does matzabal soup come with chicken in it? Yes. And the deli boys gave kind of like a wishy washy answer as they're like, it should come with chicken in it. And I'm like, well,

that doesn't mean by default does it come with it in it? And so I took the poll online and everyone is saying no. It's like 70% no. Here's the issue. You still say I'm wrong. No, I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm saying you're mad, which is a different thing. No, I'm not. I'm not mad. I'm just going to weigh in. Go on, Emma. I would have said no. I always thought it was like chicken and veggies and stuff, and it was like extra. And that's just how that place does it. But I thought like matzabal soup is like broth and matzabals. Yeah. That's what I thought. I'm not Jewish. Yeah, we can get our guest perspective in a second. But yeah, what Emma just volunteered, I think was part of the deli boys argument is they were both like, we both think it should cut.

I don't think there was wishy washy as you're suggesting. I think they were just saying, I think they were both said that chicken should come in it. And then you took a poll because you're not actually, and this is my, this is a crux of my argument, this is one of those things where you're not actually looking for input, you're looking for backup, like because you already have your bias coming in. And so you just want people to tell you that you're right. And when they're wrong, like, I don't think so. I actually disagree, then you're like, well, now I have to go to another source to say that they're wrong. Yeah, that's funny. It's funny that the deli boys, the one thing they do is talk about Jewish

food and delis, deli food. And they fucking blew this one. They blew it. I think they blew it. Well, I think maybe I just prefer it without chicken. I don't know if maybe, I'm now I'm thinking about all the times I've gotten multiple soups, it's kind of 50-50 whether there's chicken in it. I was saying by default, Susser had like, Susser tried to be like jigsaw and catch me in trouble. He pulled up for a stage on you actually. I think he got you pretty good because he sent you a link to a deli and had you go through their menu and then like find the description of their only matzah ball soup and it has with chicken. He says, I rest my case. You got me pretty good. That also in the description said with chicken and carrots.

Anyways, look, we'll let listeners decide. Yeah, that's how it comes. That was an argument. But it had to tell you it comes with, but a lot of places, it doesn't come that way. If you just order matzah ball soup, you got to order matzah ball soup with chicken. Look, I don't really even have a dog in this fight. I just want, the only thing I care about is that making it clear that you are mad because kind of ironic. You don't have, oh shit, you know, you don't, it would be ironic if you had a dog in real life, which you don't. That's true. Yeah. No, I don't. Never mind Alanis. Sorry, Alanis. Alanis. I think it's Alanis. We got to play a drop and get our guests in here. And also I want to say that I hit the remote and my TV went on earlier. I just want to

let the world know that Zach Efron was like railing a lady as soon as my TV went on. We discussed it before we started recording. Yeah, it's that awkward moment is what the show was. That awkward moment, the writer-director went on to do that Nicholas Cage movie that just came out, the one where he plays himself. I haven't seen it yet. And Ghosted was his other big credit. Oh, all right. Craig Robinson is on Ghosted, right? Is that one? Maybe I saw one of them this week. Anyways, that's a little hint for what I was shooting. Little tease. Emma, let's hit him with a drop. My neighbors have been complained enough they want me to install blinds.

We're looking through your windows singing. All right, so I just forgot about this one. We're playing the runners up. Yes, this is an all month long of the drop off, which was our contest of people sending in their their their best drops. That was one of the runners up. And that was a good one. Man, I just sound like shit, huh? Jesus Christ. You sound fine. This one's from Jared. Hi, Jared. The email just says high drop. Were you nervous about which Jared this was when he sent it in? High drop, King. No, that's why I wanted it in.

Did Jared from Jewelers go on to to to start Jared? Wait, did Jared from Subway go on to be Jared from the Jared Jewelers guy? Oh my God. You're saying when like when they said he went to Jared, did you go to, did you go to like Jared Fogle's Dorn Room, where he famously rented out pornography to his college classmates? That's what I'm wondering. Yes. Except I kind of butchered it. Kind of. High drop, King. As requested, here are Wave and M4A versions of my drop submission, Little Dongs. I couldn't get an MP3 from my from my iPad. Thanks. That's Jared. Thanks, Jared. It's just sneezed. I'm like a comically sick guy.

My nose is red. I'm sniffling. Yeah. I'm sneezing. All right. Introduce our guesswags. You're like a, you're like one of the dwarfs. Which one? Cranky? Yeah. Cranky? I don't know, like a new one. Cranky? The one of the seven dwarfs? Cranky? Yeah. The one that's always jacking off? I didn't mean it like that, but works on that level too. We have a great guest with us today, Long Overdue, from Andy Mack, Murderville, and Shrinking on Apple TV, and the new podcast, Brewster High, which is available now. Leelon Bowden is here. Hi, Leelon. Hi. Thank you so much for making time for us and sitting through all that bullshit. Leelon, we talked about Tom Brady reading from the Bay Area earlier, and my understanding

is you also have roots in the Bay Area. That's true. I didn't know Tom Brady was from the Bay. He is, right? Am I wrong about that? He's from California. I thought he was from NorCal. Yes. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. I'm going to get in trouble. Why are you asking me things like this? I'll get in trouble if I don't know. Should I look it up, or? We can look it up. He's from San Mateo. I'm looking it up. San Mateo is where I'm from. Hey! I'm from San Mateo. I'm from San Mateo. Our engineer in studio. I didn't know that. Wait, is San Mateo, is that near where you grew up, Leelon? Not really. I grew up in the east, so I grew up in the East Bay close to Oakland, close to Berkeley, in a place called San Leandro,

but no one really knows where San Leandro is. Except for Michelle. She's nodding her head. Wow. Yeah. I like the Bay. I still feel very Bay-ish, even though I've lived in LA for a long time. Now, let me ask you this, because there's this NorCal, SoCal divide, which I think is overblown, but it's fun to play into as someone who's from Southern California. You've obviously been in SoCal for a while. Do you have any NorCal Eats, where you're like, when I go up to NorCal, they do this better than they do it down south? Eats, I have no opinions on it. It's weird, because I was in NorCal until I was 16, and then I went to college. At 16? I started and I just turned 17. I was a little smarty.

You were a great head. You're a freaking dude, Bowser. It's leveled out now, so I feel like I'm the average, if not lower, intelligence for somebody my age. But yeah, no, my birthday lands on a time where you could either be younger or older, and then I skipped a grade. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Was that weird when you got to college? Did you feel younger? You know, no, because I had been younger. The only reality I knew was being younger than my peers. It honestly felt weird once I got out of college and started intermingling with people, and then my cool age thing wasn't a thing anymore because I was just age. It didn't mean anything.

You reach a certain threshold of adulthood and it stopped, whatever. Yeah. Why, did you have the opposite thing? Were you always kind of an old dude? No. First off, I'm two years older than you. Second of all. You know what's funny is that I have an August birthday, so I was actually young for my grade. Oh, I was old for my grade. I'm October, and so I was 18 my senior year in October of my senior year. Yeah, I wasn't 18 until I started college. Wow. I'm going to go blow my nose. Okay. I'm just stepping away to blow his nose. Leaving his headphones on so he can hear us as this is going on.

Yeah, so don't talk shit. So no affiliation, no fandom for, ah, there's this back home that I can't really get anywhere else. Something comes to mind. None. I don't even know the streets that well, because I wasn't really driving that much. Interesting. I mean, I could tell you all about the local playgrounds. There you go. All these playgrounds. The swim center, the Hayward Plunge, memories. But yeah, all my big, yeah, the Bay does that right, are mostly playgrounds. And I don't even know the real names of those playgrounds because my dad would take me.

And so there are things in my mind like it's, there's the Scary Bridge Park, you know, and then there's like the Tambark Center, you know, but I don't know the real names. I'm still just a little bit like, so, but it was 16 when you went to college, not like 12. Like you, like you were still going to playgrounds up until like age? Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to wrap my head around this. But I mean, like, but, you know, so, so in high school, I don't know if this is true, but there was a rumor. Why, why are you trying to get the thumbs up

that it's okay to go to playgrounds? Let me get some cross streets here. Like as far as food, like just my, my palate wasn't very refined because like, I went to Cashew Valley High and again, I don't know if this rumor is true, but there was a rumor that we were in the Guinness Book of World Records for most fast food restaurants on one street, Cashew Valley Boulevard. Again, do not know if that's true, but like there were a ton of fast food restaurants on Cashew Valley Boulevard, you know, so we could just at lunch, we'd pile in the car and then we just drive down the Boulevard and just like look and,

and until someone was like KFC, you know, or whatever, you know, like McDonald's, Burger King, Wendy's, you know, everything was all there for us. That's a great, like even if that's not true, that's like a great high school rumor or whatever to have. It's the, it's the, it's the better version of, and I'm sure like every person who went to college knows this thing, but when you go to college like, dude, we're actually like, we're like the drunkest college of them all, dude. Like, like people always do, like are like, kids do that with high schools too. It's like, we have like the most underage drinking, like they try to brag about that. Sure. That wasn't sure about my college nor high school,

like, like definitively so definitively. Well, you went to UC Irvine, right? Oh yeah. Yeah. That's a, I went to UCLA, so also in the UC system, but like I found it was a very studious, like you, like, like it was not like a party school at all. It was fucking nerds. Yeah. Dude, I want to be caught dead there, dude. Did I'm at LA or UCI? I was talking about LA. See, okay, so imagine just more that. Yeah, right. And it's UCI. Right. Yeah. Like it's so, it's so nerd. It's so nerd. In a great way.

That's good. Yeah. Like I was a nerd. I was, I was a, I was a little dookie-houser. I was an old dookie-houser. Do you, okay, so you move down to Southern California, you can treat yourself here, like, do you have any favorite, and you were talking about fast food, living on the, on, on fast food lane earlier, do you have any favorite fast food chains that you still fancy from your childhood or anything you've discovered in adulthood? Oh my gosh, like no, I've, I've like pretty much, no, no, I've gotten all fast food just like, like, I live in Los Angeles. I can eat foods. I can eat Thai and sushi and brunch and brunch and brunch, you know, like,

there's no, like, it is disappointing if I, if, you know, I'm on a road trip and the only thing is around four miles. That being said, I just hung out with my friend's kid. My friend used to babysit another, oh, we know these people. So my friend used to babysit Eugene Cordero's kid. Oh yeah. And just had a great time hanging out with him and my bud. And we went to McDonald's because that's where he wanted to go. And the, the fish, oh, fillet, fish, oh, filet sandwich, that's filet, oh, fish. Yeah. Is it filet, oh, fish. I think so. Yeah. Well, there's an, oh, in there. And that's, that's, that like was the one thing I'll still do. Yeah, that's a good, that's a good sando. Natalie, my lovely wife will do that. And I, I, the Trump's favorite sandwich, fast

food sandwich. He calls it the fish delight. He likes the fish delight from McDonald's. And he calls it the fish delight. He gets it wrong. And you know, he's just surrounded by enablers who are like, like, oh yeah, it's the fish delight, Mr. Trump, you know. I am devastated that my fave, my, the only fast food thing I, I will ever eat is Trump's favorite sandwich. The guy's got good taste. Yeah. That was like, good ideas. No, he doesn't. That's the problem. He doesn't have good taste on anything. We like him. I guess, I mean, I think I'm just thinking of his. He tapes his ties to his body. That's strange. I'll say this when, when the one thing, we've talked about it on the podcast before Wags, but

when Trump, when Trump bought fast food for all the college players and people tried to be like, that's disgraceful. It was like, no, that's like the coolest. That was great. It's like the best thing he did. It's the best thing he did. It is. If you're, if you're like, you don't want, you ever get into like a catered event. It's like, what, like, what the fucking food? Well, I mean, a big bowl of mescaline greens and like some like couscous thing that someone made and like some, some room temperature fish, like they cook like, like, like 40 salmon fillets and they're just sort of sitting there in a sauce. So these may have been room temperature too. It's true, but I'd rather. Cold McDonald's. I'd rather have fucking McNuggets or, you know.

A room temp fish delight. Yeah, exactly. Give me one of those. It should be called, it should be called the fish delight now. Here's, here's, here's what I think, Leelan, and I wonder how you feel about it. I think that. The hell? What happened? Irma just knocked Advil off the table. Good, good. Okay, go take care of that. No, it's fine. It's got a safety cap on. Is the podcast giving her a headache? Maybe she's trying to move it over towards me because she knows I'm sick. Oh, that's sweet. Good girl. It's also freaky. It is. That would be a little bit freaky. That would be weird.

They know too much. Eugene's son, by the way. Oh, Eugene and Trisha, who we love, friends of the pod. Great son. Great name. Won't say it. Won't talk to the family. But I, here's my thought about NorCal, the people, they love the burritos up there. And I wonder if you have, if you have a thought on mission burritos because. Is that San Francisco? It's a San Francisco thing. They just, they just call them mission, sorry, right? They just call them. But that's the origin is the mission district in San Francisco, the mission style burrito. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah. But I think, I don't know, I've had amazing burritos up in San Francisco, but I gotta say, I think it goes to rank first, second, and third. I think it's San Diego's first, LA's second, and

San Francisco's third. Wow, just moving up the coast. I think so. San Francisco maybe, maybe comes close to LA, but there's some really good burritos in LA too. So are you opinionated on this at all, Leon? Oh my goodness, no. Oh wow. Like if you, there's no way I have ever like formulated a memory of like this city does burrito. I would have no idea. I just like being cheese, lettuce, tomato, that's a burrito, you know? Like I can't tell the difference between one made at home, one in a, like if it just, it's tasty, it's tasty food. Wow. And that's it. I'm so, this is why you haven't had me on yet. No, this is great. This is good. No, it's good. I have no opinions about food. Well, you did mention something. That's good. Yeah. We need sometimes,

you know what, sometimes we need people on the podcast who don't like food. But you like food. I like food. You mentioned like sushi, Thai food. You mentioned that the, you know, the brunch options in LA. So what's your favorite, like what's your favorite stuff to go out and eat? You know, like, so I grew up in a, like Taiwanese dominant household. And so my comfort foods are like pretty much rice and noodles. Like, I feel like a couple months ago, like Nick, my fiance, had asked me like, okay, hey, what do you want? You could, you could decide. And I like, like, I got too smiley and he went, oh, please, not noodles. Like, I've been ordering too many noodles. Like, I just, if it's up to me, it's going to be a noodles. Yeah. And then rice

is a second, you know, so like anything of the Asian noodle category, we're talking Pad Thai, we're talking pho, we're talking ramen, we're talking Singapore noodles, you know, like anything that's a, that's a noodle that comes from that hemisphere is awesome. Wow. For me. Yeah. Yeah. Do you have a specific comfort food, like a specific dish that makes you think of home specific noodle dish? You know, there's a, there's a great restaurant and so we're like called Pine and Crane. Oh, great spot. Yeah, I don't know if y'all reviewed it yet, but that should be on the show. Should have come in with that, honestly, now that I'm thinking about it. I really, I, I like, I really, after I like chose my choice, I was like, why didn't I do anything that I have?

Like, I mean, I love what we chose, but just like, I didn't work there. I didn't have, I was inspired by like Ally Ward's episode where it's like, yeah, duh, you know, like something, I'm just choosing stuff out here. I don't know. Point is Pine and Crane is a Taiwanese restaurant. And the first time I went there, I was like, oh, my mind was blown because I had never seen Taiwanese food served in an American restaurant. And I thought these were like secret dishes. So there's like a dish that they sell, which is like a sweet sliced pork. And it comes and you eat it with like a slice of raw garlic, and you put it together in your chopsticks and you dip it in soy sauce. And it's delicious. Sounds great. It's so good. And that's not far from the head gum studios,

Weig's. Pine and Crane. But is it a chain? Oh, you never had it before. I haven't had it. It's not a chain. No, it's not a chain. Damn. Wish it was Pine and Chain. Yeah. It would have been eligible. Yeah, I agree. What are you saying? I'm cooking with gas? What are you gonna say? No, I say like you've never been more right. Wish it was Pine and Chain. Not allowed in Biden's America, cooking with gas, by the way. Isn't there something like that? Anyways. Yeah, that's a whole thing. Miles Teller was, I'm sorry. What's his name? Zac Efron was dressed up in a rock out with your cock out outfit for like Halloween. And are you still watching the

movie? Do you just have it on? Okay. Now I'm mad you didn't come into the studio. He's watching a movie while we're doing the podcast. Here's the thing. Here's the tricky thing is that back in my day, there was the cold and the flu. But now it might be goddamn COVID wise. I'd be COVID. Yeah. That's what I was afraid of because I wanted to come in. And then if it was a thing where, where I had COVID the next day, I feel so bad that I gave Leland COVID for this stupid fucking show. Oh, I feel bad too. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited you're at home. Yes. Yeah. So it was, it was, it was a good move. It was just like a weird thing though, where it's just like, back in my day, we got everyone sick. Like it's just like, it's kind of

like nice. Oh, I agree with you. Yeah, stay home if you're sick. I'm with you. Stay home. And that wise, that's why, because I was like, I am so down for people staying home with their sick, but I was just afraid that you'd be upset. I also don't have COVID because I've been sick for like two or three days and I'm testing negative. So, and it doesn't feel like COVID. It feels like, I think I have a good old classic cold wigs. That's a, that's a hard thing too. You know, like we, we think that our coworkers are going to be upset if we're like literally not suffering. You know, like, you know, like, because I feel that way too, Mitch, you know, where I'm just like, Oh my gosh, people think I'm such a loser because I'm sick and I can't do

my thing. I always think that people think I'm lying. And so I always, yeah, that's another, yeah. Like, so I always, I'm like, I'm really, you know, like, and like, I already sound sick. I don't have to do anything to my voice. Yes. You know, but I'm just like, Oh, I better really just make sure that they know. Oh, you know, like, and really turn it on. I think that's a thing from like, from like grade school or something is like when you were, I remember, did you ever, did you ever, did you ever try to fake being sick? You probably didn't, huh? No, not really. Yeah. Just, yeah. I'm talking to the wrong guy. You never, you never tried to pretend to be sick to get out of school. I had perfect attendance for all of

fifth grade. Oh my God. Until I fell on the playground speaking to playgrounds and got a concussion and missed a day of school. And it was, it was like pre-school playground. It was like before school started. And I got a concussion and like I got like docked for that day. I was fucking pissed off because you get the perfect attendance award. But yeah. Perfect attendance? Yeah. I generally, I mean, looking back on it, it was insane because who gives a shit? Why did I ever try in school? But doesn't matter. It doesn't affect your adult life. But, but I like, yeah, I would generally go, my big thing is I had childhood asthma. And so I missed a lot of school as a result of that. I would get like asthma attacks and then I would have like a,

a bronchial infection and then it'd be out of school for like a week. So that happened to be, fuck you, fucking nerd for having asthma. It was part of growing up in smogging SoCal. Everyone, like that was, that was like, I was part of a USC study to see like why so many people had asthma. And you know what, this was the fucking smog that we grew up inhaling. It's really the smog. We should be calling a nerd. Yeah. Was the doctor like the results, was the doctor like the results are in, he's a nerd. They pulled my underwear up over my head. I do, I do. Okay. Let's, let's, let's move the subject back to food.

Wise when you hit your head when you were in nursery school, is that why sometimes like, you jump back to thinking you're a preschooler? Occasionally? It was fifth grade. But yes, that is why sometimes I'm like, well, I'm a little baby. Thank you. I want to go back to food real quick. Because first off, you're talking about Taiwanese food and the big Taiwanese chain we've covered on the show is a din tai feng. Oh my gosh, love din tai feng. Wow. Do you have a favorite dish there? Um, no. Most boring guess of all time. You hate food. It's, we found out you hate, we found,

we have a guest on, I think you hate food. I mean, truly, I haven't been enough to like really like absorb. And I'm also so keyed up every time I get to go, which is weird because I am an adult and I could get to go any time I have the car, I have the means, I have the resources I could do. But like somehow I've been to din tai feng like a total of three times ever. And it's just such like, it's like a Disneyland experience for me that I don't remember specific things like dishes are flying fast and various, you know, like there's, but you know, all the basic stuff that you can order at like dim sum places, you know, like the, um, like the pork buns. Oh my gosh, the pork buns, the steamed dumplings, the, oh,

there's the bok choy, you know, like it's all just one big lump of happiness to me, you know. Oh, there's so many delicious things. Oh my gosh, now I want to go to din tai feng. It's a hoot. Lila, just, just, just like when you're being sick, just lie to us, just, just say, just, you can just lie to us. First of all, I've never, that's the thing. I'm just, I'm scared of people thinking I'm lying when I'm really sick and I would never lie to you guys. We appreciate that. We can tell too.

So I was a potato boy growing up, but man, I really do love rice now. I had a, I had a matzo ball soup, which did not have chicken in it with, um, and I added some rice to it and it was really damn good. By default, didn't come with chicken. But rice and, hey, why is you and I, we're sending nudes to each other all the time. Noodles, we'll send our noodle dishes. That's true. Why the hell not? When I text you at 3am and say, you got any nudes, you'll send me over a plate of pasta.

You did one time send me over, uh, uh, you know, send me over a hog pick by accident. And I was like, oh, it's one very small noodle. And you're like, no, that was a single macaroni with no cheese on it. I forget, I remember that. I apologized. Um, but, uh, noodles and Leland, you can't go wrong with noodles and, and rice honestly. And Pine and Crane is a great, is a great spot. I gotta try it. I don't, I don't know if there's any, why is you could have it tonight? Literally, it's like on your way home.

I guess they could. Um, here's Wally. He was just here. Mitch is lifting up Wally for our audio listeners. Oh my gosh. He's cute. He's very cute. He's a cute cat. He's a handsome cat.

He is. He's a good guy. We're hanging out. Um, I, we gotta, we gotta, we gotta get into the, this week's chain. I do want to talk about that. But before we do that, I have one more question, uh, for you, Leland. Maybe you could weigh in on this. So we're talking about a sweet treats this week. I hope I can't. Yeah.

That's all right. If you don't have a perspective, that's fine. That's another data point. Wait. The whole reason I brought that up before we, before you, Nudes. Yes. Nudes versus rice. What will you say? What do you like better?

You know, that's, that's a fucking hard ass question. It's a hard question. And we'll also, I mean, like, I feel like there's a little betrayal in my answer because like as a child, I was eating rice three times a day. Rice was my main squeeze. Rice was the thing. Like, and, and that's what you'd, like, um, you know, like in, in Mandarin, the word for like breakfast, lunch, dinner is just like morning rice,

like afternoon rice, dinner rice. Like it's the same word. That's awesome. You know, like meal is rice, you know. And so it feels like I'm, like there's some type of like, oh, I could never go back on rice, but I love noodles. I'm a rice guy. Give me that rice, but I do like a noodle.

A rice guy too. Like, I think I, I think I like, I think I like noodles. I'm, it depends. It's funny though, because if I'm, if I'm ordering usually any sort of Asian food, I usually do, I usually want some sort of rice dish more than I care about a noodle dish. You said you're a potato boy and what, what is rice, but like just many small potatoes. Great point. Tiny, tiny, tiny, you know.

I'm such a sucker, I'm such a sucker for mashed potatoes. That's like where my, that's like, and a baked potatoes is good, but like, I love a mashed potatoes. Mashed potatoes, I think is like one of the, it's an all-timer side. They're real fucking good. Love. I love it because you don't have to, you don't have to chew a lot. Yeah.

Yeah. I hate chewing too much. It's so annoying. I just, if all my food could be slurped, that'd be great. Now you're talking dough boys. This is right up our alley. That's my perfect life. Like, you know, like, I don't, I don't do steak, you know, there's just, there's just a bunch

of gnaw, gnaw, gnaw, you know, like, but like an oat, we're talking mashed potatoes, we're talking oatmeal, congee. Oh yeah. You know, just. The slurp foods. And then you have the nutrients. Maybe I do hate food. What's wrong with me?

What the heck? This is like, you're basically saying like you want to be like in a nursing home. It's like what they feed people in a nursing home. Right. I puree everything into a slurry. I think I figured it out though. Why? Because I'm thinking of like, I think with, especially with Asian food, I, I especially

love rice. But then if you switch over to like Italian, I of course want the noodles and then like any sort of like, I don't love, what is, what's the rice dish? Is that polenta? What is that? But like, I don't. Risotto. Risotto.

That's what it is. Thank you. Yeah. Sorry. I don't care as much about that at all. But I also love polenta. Another non-chewable, delicious thing. I have a polenta loaf.

I got a fucking polenta loaf from Bub and Grandma. Wow. Shout out to Tyler and Rachel at the farmers market who hooked me up. I fucking, it's a fucking great loaf. I didn't think I'm having a polenta loaf. And I'm fucking having this thing for toast all the time. It's delightful. I like you saying it's a great loaf over and over again.

All right. Let's move on to the. The quality loaf. Let's move on to the sweet, the sweet treat portion of the podwigs. Yes. Okay. We should go to a break in one second. But before we do, I have one question because we're talking about sweet treats

and we're talking about ice cream specifically. But this episode is coming out in February. But we're still in the, dealing with a long tail of, in anticipation of Christmas, Mitch and I went out on a limb and said, we didn't think of Christmas as much of a cookie holiday. And we got a lot of blowback for that. So I'm curious your perspective. Do you consider Christmas a cookie holiday?

Oh my gosh, if Christmas is not the cookie holiday, what holiday is? I am sorry to turn on you like this. But something. Well, well, well, yeah. Pretty epitomated about food now, huh? The one thing, the one, the one opinion I have is just to say no. Wow. You're wrong.

I mean, but seriously though, it's not, it's not Halloween. That's a candy holiday, obviously. Valentine's Day. I got you some cookies. What? No, you're giving them chocolates or whatever. You know, another candy holiday. It's a pretty good break down.

And then it's a meal. It's like, there's like a, like also I think of like Italian restaurants. So like associated with Valentine's Day, because you're anniversary, whatever. I don't know. Um, romance stuff. Sure. Um, and then first of July, that's a cookie holiday.

Are you kidding me? Come on. I thought of it as something of a candidate just because I've seen, I've seen cookies at Fourth of July. It's the Jell-O-Shot holiday. Interesting. Everyone knows Fourth of July is the Jell-O-Shot holiday. I think Fourth of July is the Burger holiday.

That's the, that's a burger. Yeah. Ah. Sure. The grill, it's more of a grill holiday than anything. It's the grill. We celebrate the grill. See, I'm thinking of just foods.

I'm thinking of foods you can't, you don't have to too. That's where, that's where I'm, I'm at. So Jell-O-Shot is like one of your top five favorite foods. Oh gosh. Again, I'm just all about that slurp. Well, look, we've got a very, that kind of substance adjacent food to discuss with this week's chain. You can slurp it.

You can slurp it. You can slurp it. So we'll take a break and we'll come back and talk more dough boys. But wigs. With Leland Bowden. We'll be right back. The trick is in the lick, my boy. That's a little tease for when we come back.

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That's code DOBOYS50 at factormeals.com slash DOBOYS50 to get 50% off your first box. Do it. Welcome back to Doughboys. We are here with Leelon Bowden discussing Jenny's Splendid Ice Creams, which was founded in 2002 in Columbus, Ohio by Jenny Britton. 66 parlors nationwide, as well as retail distribution of its pints, and had an infamous Listeria outbreak in 2015. But thankfully, that's in the rear view.

Now, I do want to talk about Jenny's, but over the break, what was the outbreak? Listeria. Sounds like, is that where they live in desperate housewives? No, that's Wisteria. Oh. Wisteria Lane. I got a Snapple.

Oh, it's Listeria. I got a Snapple Wags. Yes. I took it from set. I just haven't had a Snapple in a long time. And I'm realizing like, there's probably no vitamin C in this, but a Bikini Strawberry Snapple. Here's the thing, plastic bottle.

How whack is that? I hate that. I fucking hate the plastic bottle. Give us the fucking glass bottle, you fucking dicks. What the fuck? Can we just talk about it real quick? We're fucking pissed off. Me and Wags are pissed off right now.

I'm fucking pissed off. Like here, single use plastic is one of those wasteful things imaginable. And it's just, it's been so fucking standardized everywhere. And hey, President Brandon, instead of taking away our gas stoves, how about you fucking outlaw plastic bottles and make everyone use glass bottles or boxes for distribution? I fucking agree. Eliminate some single use plastic waste.

But you know, again, but that's a thing that hurts the corporations instead of the, you know, consumer. So it's a non-starter. Well, who cares, Brandon? Who fucking cares, Brandon? So, Leelon, over the break, we were talking, we're talking about Costco. And maybe you don't have a lot of opinions about... Wait, is this what you were saying since we brought it up?

Or were you about to say something different? What are you talking about? Because you were saying, and since you brought it up and then you didn't say what you were going to say, were you going to talk about Costco? I don't remember. What was the content? It wasn't about Snapple.

Oh, I would say, since you have the Snapple. Does it have the nutrition information on the back? You should be able to see. Oh. But I think what grinded my gears was the plastic bottle thing, because I used to love the glass bottle snapples. I get that peach snapple or the diet snapple. Yeah, you hit the bottom of it and it does the little,

you know what I mean? A lot of fun. Like in the cap. It makes that little noise so you know it's fresh. You click the cap, total blast. What a hoot. There he is. This is very strange.

There are, oh my God, it's so bad. That's 240 calories for the bottle. It's a lot. But there's also, there's no like, there's nothing about vitamin C. It says contains 5% juice. So my guess is that there has to be some vitamin C if it's 5% juice, right?

Sure. There's gotta be a little. But it just has total fat, sodium, total carbs, total sugars, included added sugars and protein. There's nothing about vitamin C. But look, it's the only thing I had in the fridge, so I'm drinking some of it. 5% juice sounds like the naked gun trilogy.

It's about his screen time over the three movies. You think 5%? I think he's more like probably like 25%. I think he's like 25% because in a quarter of the run time. And he better be in the new ones. That's all I'm gonna say. So Costco, yeah. Yes.

Well, we gotta get to, we gotta talk about Costco. We gotta talk about Jennie's, but. Oh yeah, we gotta talk about Jennie's. But I just want to say that when we came back, I just changed the channel. It was no country for old men is on. Good movie. And you know, Javier Bardem goes into like,

there's like the old guy and he flips the coin with the old guy. Yeah. It's like kind of perfectly the dough boys dynamic is you're the Javier Bardem. And I'm like that old fool, the old, the old man behind the counter. I think, I think it kind of sums us up perfectly. The old man, this is the one where he's like,

he's like, what's your deal, mister? He's like kind of like a hayseed and Javier Bardem's like, what's the most you've ever waged on a flip of a coin? Yes. Okay, got it. And you're like, it kind of is the dough boys dynamic, I think. Summed up. Anyway.

The, been described by psychologists as the most accurate depiction of a psychopath. Really? His character Anton Chagour and that's who you're comparing me to. I thought you meant dough. I thought you meant dough boys. Okay. Leelan Chosko. You and your mom like to go to Costco.

Oh yeah. That's a chain we've discussed at length. I'm a big Costco fan. I'm a Kirkland signature enthusiast. I go all the time. You have some fandom for the Co. Oh yeah. Big childhood memories there.

Yeah. I can tell you all about the Bay Area, Costco's and actually I can only tell you about one. Okay. That we only went to one. That's one. But yeah, no, like that's where all my school jackets came from. That's where, you know, and like, and also like I said, like,

you know, I live in a house with most of my Taiwanese relatives. And so you can get things in bulk. Sure. Just, oh my, but the one thing though is that like, you tire on the taste. Does this happen to you? You get it too much. And then I remember they sold a fruit snack called Frutios. Do you remember this?

I don't remember Frutios, but I have a similar story. It's like a donut shaped like fruit snack and man, I loved Frutios. And my mom was like, great, cool, let's stock up. And so even on trips where I couldn't go as a kid, she would just get like those giant bulk packs of Frutios. And then one day my taste buds were like, no more. I cannot do another Frutios as long as I live. And my mom was so mad.

She was like, I don't even like Frutios. No one in this house likes Frutios except for you. And now we just have Frutios. What are we supposed to do with these? I think they were called Frutios. But like we're just like, and nothing to be done. And so there's also like some trauma there too, you know, where it's just like all my favorite foods eventually I soured on.

Maybe that's why I don't want, we're going to figure this out today. Why don't I like food? Well, I had the, I had a similar thing with Kern's fruit nectar. I don't know if either of you ever messed around with the nectar, but we got like a fucking 30 pack of Kern's fruit nectar. And I was in Hog Heaven as a little fat boy. I was like, oh my God, I'm going to be drinking this nectar every day. And then like by like the 12th nectar, I was like, oh God, this is just so syrupy sweet.

Because it's just like drinking the syrup in a can of peaches. It just sounds insane after the 12th nectar. You were drinking fucking cans of nectar. That's hummingbird shit. That's insane. It nourishes the gods. Yeah, like isn't like nectar, and nectar in my mind, this can't be true, but it's juice and honey combined.

I mean, it's like punishingly sweet. It's super sweet, yeah. It's like juice shouldn't be of a molasses texture. Right, yeah. You don't need to sweeten juice really. I mean, fruit juices are usually so sweet anyways. It sounds like something I would love, honestly. You'd love like one.

I like the sweet stuff. And then if you start having more, it's too much. It's ungepochka. Let's, while we're talking sweets, let's get into genies. So I went to the Venice location. And I will say this, that this location, the service, they were super helpful. I get, sometimes at an ice cream parlor, it feels like they're kind of like trying to rush you through the queue.

And this was one where I wasn't even asking for taste. And the person helping me was just like giving me taste, like try this one. This one's good. This is one of our seasonal flavors. I will say that we should acknowledge, Mitch, that on our Alphabet Draft episode of the Doughboys Double Last, last year, we discussed some of the genie's flavors that we were shipped for some like fucking influencer reason.

And we had a few of those. They fucked up on that one. I was very happy to get it. Oh, please always send it, genies. I was very happy to get it, but. I'll just go through those flavors again. Everything bagel, brown butter, almond brittle, coffee with cream and sugar, gooey butter cake, which I got to get in this visit,

salty caramel and savanna butter mint, which I was the surprise hit for me. That was, those were the half dozen flavors we got. Which was the surprise hit, the savanna butter mint. Which I thought was going to be too minty. And I usually need a chocolate counterpart for my mint, but this one actually was nicely balanced. You know what, I actually had to have chocolate flakes. So I think that's part of it.

I hadn't had too much experience with that gooey butter cake before we got those in. Man, that gooey butter cake is good. And also why is one of the flavors I also get. I'm seeing actually Mitch, because I have the invoice here. The one they shipped you was just butter cake. I think you made it gooey. Piece of shit. The, the, yeah, I like this, I like the flavors they sent us.

This is not. I didn't add my own goo to the butter cake. The goo is you. The. Goo ain't me. The goo is you. I'm really saying that in no country for old men dynamic play out here. The goo is you.

So we got the, all that said, that's just a preamble to reiterate that the dough boys can't be bought. This is not branded content. This is not payola. We can't, we went in here with an open mind. And I'm ready to criticize this place if it needs critique. Although I said I had a pretty good experience, but Leland, I'm curious about you.

We sent you a few options. Jennies was the one you settled on. Do you have past experience eating at Jennies? Oh yeah. I love, I would never, I would never come on a, like a rating show just to like drag something. Wow. I just can't do it.

I just want to be here and spread the love. Great. I love Jennies. I think it's awesome. I love, I love all of their flavor. I like, I like, there's some that are just like, like, and also I'm not a big sweets person. So like Jennies like really does it for me.

I do feel like there are some, I know I'm not an anything person. It's very funny because I thought you would be like, I like sweets, but still no, you don't like sweets. No, no, no, no, no. It's going on with food. I hate having fun. Don't do it. But, but like Jennies is like, I don't know what it is.

There's something just like kind of, I don't know, I never was like a thrifties ice cream girl. You know, like there's something kind of like, like chalky about that brand for me. I know it's cool to like it because like, yeah, thrifties. And then you show that like, I got my ice cream from, from Walgreens, you know, or, or whatever, you know, like, and that's cool. I'm sorry.

I get to enjoy luxury now. And I feel like Jennies is luxury ice cream. A lot of those, no, I think that's a good point. Now, a lot of the ones like, you know, the more budget brands, which is what I grew up eating. And you know, like I, I, I'd love to thrift the ice cream. I don't get it anymore because it's always an inconvenience when you're in there because there's no one working at the ice cream.

No one's ever working there. And it's an inconvenience mostly for them. For them, yes. So like someone has to like walk over. It's like, I don't want to bother with that. But yeah, a lot of those have like added gums, I think as part of, if you look at their ingredient list, and that's part of what, what offers that, that unpleasant texture.

A xanthum or something. Yeah. For binding. I'm going to say this. Nancy, Nancy Pelosi. Here, Irma's here too, by the way. So here's Irma. Hi, Irma.

Irma. Oh, these are good cats. Irma's a little cutie. Oh, great cats. Nancy Pelosi didn't help with like her super nice fridge and all the Jennie's ice cream she had in it. Oh, yeah. Brandon's friend, Nancy.

But I got to say, I'm with you, Leland. I think Jennie's is pretty damn good. And also, not only do I think it's pretty damn good, but there's other fancy ice cream shops that people are like, this is the one. And I've always kind of just defaulted to Jennie's. I think that Jennie's is maybe the better, is maybe the best of all those spots.

I think other places like, here's what I think it is. Tell me what you think of this breakdown, Wigs and Leland. I think that it's like other places try to be too creative with their flavors and you get things that are just kind of weirder. And Jennie's just kind of hits like classic tastes, but not like still creative.

But like, oh, like, this is a, you know, like a gooey, you know, like the gooey butter cake. It's like, oh, this tastes like some sort of ice cream that I've had before, but the flavors are all hitting. And then when I'm like, I don't really need an elderflower ice cream or whatever the fuck I'm going to get from some of these other places. Salt and straw, I like, but I just, the texture of Jennie's

I've always thought is good. It's creamy. There's just a lot that I think it has going for it, but more so than anything, I just think it delivers the classic ice cream taste that some of these places try to go a little too wild. I think the, your point about salt and straw is correct in terms of they're like almost like a little too

experimental with their flavors. Like for Thanksgiving, they had a flavor that had like turkey in it. Like it is like, I don't need turkey in my ice cream. They had a cotea flavor that had just like, you know, cotea cheese and like corn. And I was like, I get what you're trying to do here, but like I asked one of the employees like,

how is that? And they were like, it's fucking disgusting. It's like, it's like frozen vomit. There's a person who works there. And so they, they go a little like, I do think salt, I do think salt and straw has a lot of really good flavors. Like I really love their vegan midget. Look, it's fucking great.

I think salt and straw, I mean, a lot, a lot of these in McDonald's, I like them. All right. Yeah. You know, like, but it's funny because Jenny's got a lot of shit. And look, the wisteria outbreak, did people die from it? I don't think anyone died.

No, it was just people, people got sick and it was gross. All right, then who gives a fucking shit? I'll get sick over Jenny's. I got sick anyway. Yeah, I got, I got a stomach ache just from eating ice cream always, but I'm like, look, give us the, give us the wisteria. Who gives a shit? Well, don't give us, don't give us the wisteria.

I can't go saying that. That became too much of a thing. And then also I think the Pelosi thing didn't help that it was. I don't know about this. Pelosi had a fridge that was filled with Jenny's and people were like boo, like what? She had two Sub-Zero freezers that were like filled with Jenny's ice cream and it was like,

this is how I'm getting through quarantine. It was one of those things that was just really tone deaf. Oh yeah. Like this tone deaf rich person at the height of everyone's, you know, struggling economically. Upreasing all that ice cream. Yeah, but I was going to say the, the, I think I, I generally agree with you, bitch.

I want to get Leland's perspective. The one that I would say that's kind of in that tier, like that this kind of this higher end, you know, fucking $10 and up per pint, you know, $5 a scoop ice cream parlors that is kind of the, you know, this, this boutique artisan ice cream parlor. The one I have a fandom for is a sweet rose creamery, which is local only to LA.

So I don't think it's really in the conversation in the same way as the other, these other chains. And why? I think that one does a really good job of having a great texture and not overly sweet ice creams. And here's the deal. I've never been there. It's good.

I think you like it. I've never been there either. Yeah. But you, you have some fandom for Jenny's, is your fandom for Jenny specifically among creameries? Um, yeah. I mean, I'm not like, I'm not a brand loyal person. I think, you know, like I'm, but I'm a neighborhood loyal person.

And it's in Los Feliz. Got it. The one is, and it's like, it makes me feel, and it's like, it's just so aptly located where it's like, I can be like, it's trilling along the street, and then I drop off my mail at the mail play, and then I get my ice cream, you know, like, and that feels, makes me feel like I'm like living in a fun

version of Sesame Street. Yeah. I've always wanted to live in, you know, like that. Main Street USA. Yeah. It's just, yeah. What did you say? What USA?

Main Street USA. Main Street, it's got a Main Street USA feeling, you know? I could be walking my little dog, can't bring the dog in, of course, you know? Sure. But like, um, but if I'm walking... But they offer, don't they offer like little dog treats there too though? They do, don't they?

I think, but you're not supposed to bring it in, you know? Oh yeah, I know, I know. It's a food place, but I think they do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But my dog's very, um, snooty, and she doesn't really accept anybody's dog treats. Your dog doesn't like food either? Dang, dang, this is true.

This is upsetting. We had to try like so many different kinds just to get her to eat this stupid dog. Wow. I know, her name's Penny. She's a long-haired Dotson. She's great. Oh, that's cute.

Um, but also, yeah, like me in many ways, very, very long. She's a long-bodied food-hating. You know, Wally and Irma, they like food, but they like are very specific about... So like, I leave out butter hoping they'll like lick the butter and they don't do it. But, uh... Who, what?

What? Why? Because I want them to be little sneaky cats that eat butter and stuff. I think it's cute. They won't do it. What? They won't do it.

I like, they don't like human food, and I want them to eat human food. You want to like leave out a stick of butter, and then like hoping that they'll have some, so you could be like, Wally and Irma, did you get into the butter? Wally and Irma, you shouldn't have done that. You're trying to make an adorable TikTok,

and it's just not happening. They are turning the noses up with this butter. Wow. That's, I mean, it would be nice. I would kind of... I want them to be sneaky cats. Also, like, I want them to be like, I want them to have like little treats that they like,

and if a little lick of butter is... I'm sure Cat loves that, but they don't like it for whatever reason. Anyways, Leelan, I actually... Well, this... This, um... This, uh... This Jenny's is right near,

sorry I got distracted because in old country for old men, Harvey or Baradam shoots a crow? I forgot that part of the movie. Anyways. I forgot about that too. Anyway. Are you watching the TV edit,

or are you watching on like pay cable? Oh, dude, I'm watching the red band, Baby. Wow. Speaking of Main Street, USA, I was walking with our buddy Ben Axelrad, the Axeman. The Axeman. And we run into Leelan.

I see Leelan. So fun. Yeah, there's neighborhood buddies. What? Was this recent? Yeah, not so long ago. Yeah. It wasn't that long ago.

Was this before you were booked on the show? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. We might have even talked about Doe Boys, and then... We may have. Yeah. Yeah.

A Main Street bump-in turns into a podcast gold. So cool. And then, and we were right near, we weren't that far from Jenny's. Pretty close to both Leelan and I where it's in... Where we live. In the vicinity of where we live. Well, don't talk to your home location.

Well, we didn't. We said it's in the vicinity. It's fine. It's... We're not saying how close we are to it. I want everyone to know, come on over. I'm lovely. People will like find the Jenny's though,

and then they'll just trace the size 13 footprints back to your home. Size 14, thank you. Sorry. It doesn't make sense that I'm size 14. But anyway, I like that Jenny's too. Sometimes in the summertime, very crowded. It's a nice local Jenny's.

I like it. I hope it remains open. I think that it does pretty decent business. I went in there and everyone was masked, but I did try flavors now. I feel like I'm going to get in trouble because I tried flavors while sick. I don't have COVID, but I tried flavors while sick.

Should I just cut this out of the podcast? Yeah, probably. I mean, ideally you should have not done it. I tried a couple of flavors. They dispose of the spoons. You know, not enough people are coming clean with how many flavors they're trying while sick. This is setting an example of honesty.

It's true. Integrity. Thank you. Just humanness. You know, we're all human out here. Yeah, we're imperfect. Eating ice cream. Everyone was masked up, including myself,

just trying some flavors. I think that's okay because what are you supposed to do? You pull the mask down and have a fucking taste. It's fine. I think it's fine. I think it's fine. Yeah. I also don't have COVID.

I mean, I just have an old-fashioned cold. That's the issue is that now. You have a regular contagious illness, not COVID. Anyways, I ate ice cream for the show and also not a great thing to have when you're sick. I forgot. It's just kind of like... Yeah, I'm sorry about that.

...milky... Look, I still was having a good time. I wanted to try Bramble Berry Crisp. That's basically why I had to try it. That's why I had it because I had to try it. Oh, I got some Bramble Berry Crisp. We'll talk about it. Oh, yeah, same.

And let me tell you, it was... Bramble Berry Crisp is really good. And the guy talked me out of getting it. What? What? What? I was like, this is good. And then, like, I got three scoops.

I'll just... I'll get into what I... Should I get into what I had? Yeah, please. Well, I had a waffle bowl. I also got the waffle bowl. Man, we are close. And maybe even closer than...

We might... We maybe almost would have been exact. But I got the waffle bowl and my first ice cream lids. Not the first one that was put in the bowl, but the one that I knew was going in. Yeah. Gooey butter cake. I also got the gooey butter cake.

Cream cheese ice cream layered with crumbles of vanilla cake in a swirl of caramel butterscotch sauce. Oh, it's... What is it? Say it again? Cream cheese ice cream layered with crumbles of vanilla cake in a swirl of caramel butterscotch sauce. Cream cheese ice cream...

I didn't realize that it was cream cheese ice cream. Yeah, now I'm... I'd like... I've always snubbed gooey butter cake. Yeah. But now that I know it's cream cheese ice cream. Good as hell. I'll go there.

I'll go there. Oh, man. Look, I didn't know how good gooey butter cake was and it's... Well, I gotta say, I think it's an S tier ice cream. I think it's... It's a winner. Yeah, it's a big... It's a big time wear.

It's so good. It's so, so, so good. So, I got myself the gooey butter cake, but the first one, and this is the other one, besides the brambleberry, this is another one that I tried because I had to try this one. And I went with this one. I got myself the blackout chocolate cake.

Mitch, I also got the blackout chocolate cake. A chocolate ice cream quadruple cake. This is insane. With cake, extra bitter fudge, and chocolate pieces. This was one that I was encouraged to try and I was like, you know what, give me that blackout chocolate cake. Because I'm not as much of a chocolate guy.

I'm more of a fruit dessert guy, but I went with the blackout chocolate cake and I don't regret it. And you know what, Wags? I fucking blacked out. Dude, like the hangover? I came to, I was on the roof of Jenny's. I tried, I blacked out.

I was like, did I black out because it was so good? They're like, no, you clearly have COVID. Why are you in here tasting? Why are you in here licking little spoons? The blackout butter cake, I mean, sorry, the blackout chocolate cake is so fucking good. Is that new? Damn, it's so good.

It's a new seasonal flavor, yes. It was my understanding. Don't get rid of it. Jenny's, don't get rid of it, it's so good. This is the thing, they graduate seasonal flavors, including their brambleberry crisp. That was at one point a seasonal flavor that's now a year round.

Man, because there was the cranberry crumble too. The brambleberry crisp is the winner though. Like a, it beats the cranberry crumble, it beats the goat cheese with the red cherries, like all these like fruity flavor ones that I've tried. But usually when I go to Jenny's, this is what I usually do. I do a cone, I do the milkiest chocolate and the darkest chocolate.

I just do, I do each of those in a cone. Double chocolate? I'm a chocolate man, I'm a chocoholic. Yeah, you're a chocolate guy. That's wild to me. You gotta vary it up. I concur, I'm a vanilla guy. But look, that's, my thought this day was I'll vary it up

so I get the gooey butter cake, which fuck, so good. I get that blackout chocolate cake. Last one, I'm like, fuck, this brambleberry crisp is so good. I should make it my third one. I said to, and then I was like, yeah, the salted peanut butter with chocolate flex is good too. I said to the guy, I was like, what do you think? Should I get this one or that one?

And he was like, dude, you gotta go peanut butter with chocolate flex. He's like, he was saying that like it just made more sense as a Sunday with like the three of them together. And he kind of talked me out of the brambleberry crisp, and now I'm wise, we would have had the same exact fucking order. No, here's the thing, Mitch, we did have the same exact order because I did the same thing.

I ended up getting salted peanut butter with chocolate flex as my third flavor, salted and rusted ground peanuts with grazed, grass grazed milk and crunchy dark chocolate flex. Are you kidding? I'm not kidding you. That was my, that was my try for some flavors. Oh, anything is possible. Richelle in the studio looks genuinely astonished.

I can't believe it. This is insane. No, not plan, no. I mean, the like the odds of that. Yeah, because there's like 18 flavors you can choose from. And you had, and you pick three all in a waffle cone bowl. Some fucking nerd out there work out the math of that happening. Man.

Yeah. We could choose three among 18 options and we happen to choose the same three. But the bowl, the container is also an additional option. That's true. That's another one. This is just absolutely astounding. Wow.

This is incredible. Wow. Wags and I are going to have a similar, another similar taste tonight, the barrel of a gun in our mouth. Michelle is really astonished. I'm ready. We did the three same. This is like two fucked up wags.

It's crazy. That's insane. I think they, I think I'd rank them one, two, three in that order, though, gooey butter cake one, salted peanut butter two, and blackout chocolate cake three. They were all good. I think the chocolate one is, it's just my personal taste. It was a little too chocolatey for me.

As a chocolate lover wags, I fucking, I really loved that. I fucking, I really loved that blackout chocolate cake. Oh man. It was great. I mean, but the three of them together worked really well. It was a great combo. Really well balanced. Sad not to have the Brambleberry Crisp, but you know, whatever.

I did get the Brambleberry Crisp as a pint. And so I'll talk about that, my pint's in a second. But, by the way, Brambleberry Crisp sounds like a Panjo-Kazooie level. Doesn't it? I noticed that all the ladies on the stream have gone silent. Ah, yes. You have to collect all the Jinjos and Brambleberry Crisp.

And of course, all the musical notes. You guys don't remember Jinjos from Banjo-Kazooie? My eyes just like glazed. And just like, my whole face went soft. Banjo-Kazooie, it's called what? Banjo-Kazooie. Why is that familiar? What is it?

Well, they're Nintendo characters. They were developed by Rare, but they're ones a bear. And one is a some sort of bird. Part of the running joke is we don't know what kind of bird it is, right? All right, that'll be enough for me. The bear has a backpack and the bird lives inside, and they can use their abilities to benefit each other.

Okay. Yeah. The rare bear. All right, all right, all right. The rare bear. It's almost ironic. Not really, it just rhymes. It does seem like a Banjo-Kazooie level,

which is, you know what, current to Banjo-Kazooie, because Brambleberry Crisp is a great name, and there would be a great Banjo-Kazooie level. It'd be a fucking sick David Weiss soundtrack. It's fucking Brambleberry Crisp. Just have that in my YouTube playlist. There'd be like giant pieces of fruit, maybe, but also like a forest.

You know, it would be like a nice combo of things. Anyways, what are these pints you got? I fucked up. Well, I'll get to those. We gotta get Lelon's perspective on what you had. So Jenny, I called you Jenny. Jenny. I pointed at Lelon and called her Jenny,

because we're talking Jenny's. Yeah, yeah, I'll, let's try it out. Jenny, what did you get at Lelon's? I love that. Well, I do love that at Lelon's. What would, what would I sell? Berry's pastes. No, very unflavored pastes.

Delicious pastes. Delicious, noodley pastes. A hook, a hook restaurant. Just nothing on the plate. I feel devastated. I didn't get to say, I just, I feel dev, wouldn't that be so awesome? That'd be amazing.

It'd be insane. A waffle cone ball. But like, I don't see it ever happen. Also, if you said you got the same thing, I would just know that you would be, that's just wouldn't be real. Oh yeah. And, and you know how I hate people thinking I'm lying.

Yes. I couldn't handle. But no, it would, it just would have never happened, because black, like I'm glad I have this intel now, on like the gooey butter cake, because I've, like I didn't know it was a cream cheese ice cream. That's interesting to me. Gooey butter cake, just like, oh, oh, like it sounded too sweet

to me, so I never got it. And then blackout chocolate, too chocolatey. Yeah. Like it just, it scared me. It's chocolatey. These names scared me. You're right. I mean, it is, one is sweet and one,

the gooey butter cake is sweet. I think you'd be able to handle it, but it is sweet and the blackout chocolate cake is very, very chocolatey. Yeah. I mean, it's worth a try now that we've got the same thing. But I did what I always do. I'm a creature of habit.

We're talking. Almond brittle, but brown butter. Yes. Almond brittle. Brown butter, almond brittle. And brambleberry crisp. Hell yeah. Love it.

And just on your regular cone, just a cone. You know, I, you know, I wasn't feeling up for a try scoop. I'm with you. At this point, you know, but I do, I do love a trio. I love that you can just, they'll put, give you an extra paper plate and you can take it home. And that's what you can do in this neighborhood. You can just take your ice cream and you can walk on home

and be like, I got ice cream and it's not melted by the time you did it, you know, that's cool. Yeah, that's true. It's walkable. I drove. It's walkable, but I drove. Here's the thing, Leelon, is that here's what you miss, miss out with the, with the, with this waffle bowl that Wags and I got zero licks.

The trick is the lick, I said. Yeah. We need Wags and I sitting there lickless. It's true. We're not getting a single lick. Oh, so I'm not missing out. You guys are missing. We're missing out.

Well, I think the thing is I was like, it's going to be too cumbersome to have three scoops on a cone, which I'd normally go. I prefer the cone. Yeah. It's like, I got to do a bowl. That's cartoonish. One of those scoops has ended up on the floor. If that, like, that's what happens if I get three scoops.

Especially with you. Yeah. Especially with me. By the way, like, we, our recent episode, Marcus Ray, our guest, who's your fellow castmate on Brewster High. Yes. Marcus, but I, Mitch, we were saying goodbye at the end of the day after we recorded.

Oh, man. And Marcus was holding a drink and I like, like, handshaked and then hugged Marcus and bumped into his drink and spilled his drink on him. Like all over him. All over him. Two hour ride home. You really are like the man of spills. I spill a lot.

That's, I mean, that's. That's crazy. Yeah. It is really crazy how much he spills. Well, I got the fucking. It's nerve-wracking. I can't spill this one because I got a bottle cap on it. So you don't have to worry about that today.

If you were like in the room where they like turned the key to launch the nuclear strikes, I'd be genuinely worried that you, that you'd manage to fucking spill something. White or spilled his fucking espresso on the launch codes. Fuck. There's fucking nectar in the fucking. The control panel. You are your humanity. Yeah.

You're quite this. You're quite the spiller. I don't know. I don't know how you do it, but you do it. Lila, what did you think of that? What did you think of that? Brambleberry did wigs and I fuck up by not getting it as one of our three scoops, though, wigs to get a pint of it.

Oven toasted oat streusel and a sweet tart brambleberry jam layered throughout vanilla ice cream. I'm a big vanilla fan. Vanilla is a flavor. Yeah. I mean, Nick did not fuck up. He got a pint of it. It's true.

But Mitch, gosh, you know, you went when you were sick. You didn't get the flavor. What happened, guy? Just swiping the dough boys card, buying fucking pints all day. I had no idea this was an option for us. You could have done that. Why? I told you I got, I said,

I'm going to do it, dude. I said, I got, you asked me because they have a, they do a sampler where you can get like 10 and I was like, that's too much. I can't have 10, 10 scoops of ice cream in the parlor by myself. So I got the, I got the trio, but then I got some pints to have some more flavors in a store for later. And Natalie had some that she requested. So that was, that was part of what, but yeah, you could have gotten pints.

I told you I was getting pints. Fuck you. Well, now you're sitting so far back from the microphone, the, the microphone. You're like leaning back. So we can't really hear you. I'm sick. I have to sit back occasionally. I'm going to get some pints.

I got, I got one pint. I got the darkest chocolate pint. That's what I got, which I do, which I do like quite a bit. It's a great, if you're a dark chocolate lover, it's great. And you know what I do? I obnoxiously take one spoon, spoonful per night, basically. That's what I just, I eat it over the course of like 50 days of just doing like a spoon, a spoon, one spoonful or two a night.

That's incredible discipline to just, I mean, one spoon, you put it back. I show discipline nowhere else. It is true. I mean like, it's just one of those things of like ice cream is so purely not good for you. And I love it. I'm like you YG's. I would down a carton if not. So I just try to do a little, a little bite or two at the end of the night.

I'm, yeah. I'm either like, cause that's actually what I did a little bit last night is I had like, you know, basically two spoonfuls from all the pints that I had. And then it was just like, I got to stop there. I'll either do that. I'll either nibble or I'll do the whole pint. I'll take an entire pint to the dome. And there's like no middle ground for me.

So I have to really, really mitigate my consumption. But let's go back to the brown butter almond brittle. That's one of your go-to flavors. Oh yeah. I just love that combination. Yeah. Like you Nick, I'm more of a vanilla person. Hell yeah.

I think I've proven that with all of my lack of taste so far. Well vanilla isn't plain. Vanilla isn't exactly. Oh yeah. But yeah, like also vanilla gets such a bad rep. Yes. Vanilla is like a cool thing. Vanilla rules.

Vanilla is a flavor. Yes. It's a very specific flavor. And like I saw a TikTok that said like the bean only grows one day of the year. Wow. And you have to harvest the, that's the day? Like, isn't that, and it comes from like, I don't know, like Madagascar or something? Like.

Is that true? That's wild. If that is. I mean, let's go on TikTok. Yeah. Find this video. You know, but. There is a Madagascar vanilla bean.

I don't know if that's the only source of vanilla in the world. But yes, that is. But like, and yeah, that's why like apparently vanilla prices fluctuate or whatever. Because there's, it's not like there's just, you know, it's just all out everywhere. You know, but vanilla is cool. Hell yeah. It's so cool. And so yeah.

So I try to, so those are kind of like my, and also I just feel like I don't dislike chocolate, but I just, a little goes a long way for me. You know, so I just need like a tiny. I'm with you. Yeah. Yeah. And so that, but, but I love like a little fruit, you know, so like a Bramble or Berry, Chris like does it for me.

And then I love like that little like salty, that, that almond brittle. You're like, oh my gosh, like that combination is just so great. I like some textures going on if I'm going to get luxury ice cream. Yeah. You know, the luxe experience, you know, like why not if you can have like a little crunch and a little like smooth, you know, that's where it's at for me. I think the big, to your texture point, I think the big thing that works for the Bramble Berry, Chris flavor, aside from the jam, which is just so flavorful and not overly sweet,

but just very, very, you know, specifically berry is the, is that oats, streusel is like not necessarily crunchy. It's just more crumbly. And the crumbliness is a really nice texture when you're going through bites of ice cream. It's quite nice. Delightful. Again, like it because crunchy, you got a chew. Yeah.

Crumble, melt in mouth. The other pints I got, I'll just speed through them real quick. Wild Berry lavender, which is akin to the Bramble Berry, Chris, but more just like kind of pureed throughout. And it's also got some, some orange to it and some lavender. So it's a little citrusy. Honestly, it was dominantly citrus. This one was, this one was good, but I just preferred the Bramble Berry's take.

Banana cream pudding, which is dairy-free, gluten-free, and vegan, which is real bananas, ultra-rich coconut cream, and scratch-made vanilla wafers. And this one was delightful. I was like, if you're looking for a dairy-free version, I mean, this is the one thing, I mentioned salt and straw, I think they're dairy-free ice creams are really nice, but this was a really, really flavorful. One that I would not know was dairy-free if I hadn't seen it on the label. And then also wedding cake, which is again vanilla cake with lemon, blackberries,

and buttercream icing. And yeah, this was nice. I think maybe just like kind of like a midpoint between the gooey butter cake and the Bramble Berry, Chris, which both of those flavors, I just prefer their version. But they're all good. Jenny's is good. I like Jenny's. It's good.

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We're here with Leelan Bowden discussing Jenny Splendid, fuck you. Jenny Splendid ice creams and over the break, yeah. Over the break, what? We had an engineer swap over the break. Rachelle, who was with us for the first two-thirds of the episode, exited and like a relief pitcher, Jake is with us now. Hi, Jake. Hello.

What's up, Jake? How's it going? That's the thing with. Jake's the closer. We can't, like, engineers have been like, we can't, like, we can't stay in an episode of doughboys for too long. And there's like a minimum. There's like a wellness, like a mental health threshold.

It's like someone whose job is to, like, one of those third-party providers who has to, like, moderate social media and then just watch a bunch of, like, you know, jihadist execution and animal torture videos all day long at a certain point. Yeah. They just mentally break and have to step away. That's what's going on, what it's like to engineer doughboys. Oh, that stuff is back with Elon's Twitter, though. Yeah, another job is to put that stuff on.

Add more. Were you waiting to go back from break? Because I was just, like, petting. I was petting and talking about Wally. Yeah, or you were petting your cat. You seemed very. And then you saw, were you waiting for me? That's very, very funny.

That's insane. Anyway, Wags, we're back. We're talking Jenny's and it's time for our fork scores. So, Elon. Or our spoon scores? That's no fork scores. So, Elon, here's how this works. We're each going to go around and give a summation of our thoughts on this particular

chain, a closing argument, if you will, and then end that by giving it a score from zero to five forks. Okay. And we start with our guests, which is you. All right. So, your thoughts, your fork score. Here's the thing. The one I went to, the location can't be beat.

Wow. The flavors are tasty. The staff is friendly and they have dog treats that my dog snubs her nose at. They have everything, even if people and dogs don't want it. It is a five forks for me. Wow. Coming in hot. I love it.

Five forks. All right, Spoon Man. Wags, when I think of how to, when I think of how to sum up Jenny's, my thought is splendid, just like it's in the title of the damn restaurant. It is splendid. It's a splendid experience. The ice cream is splendid.

I think it is creamy. It's delicious. I think that the restaurant, the restaurant, I think that the parlor, the ice cream parlor, parlor now a weird word, because of the app, I guess. But the ice cream parlor itself is like clean and nice. And look, Wags, I'm going to say it. Eat your heart out, Forrest Gump. I love Jenny more than you do.

I love Jenny. Wow. I like Jenny as much as Forrest. What do you think of that, Wags? What is your, what is your fork score land then? You know where it lands. Five spoons, and I'm giving it the lick award. The lick award.

It gets the lick award. Wow. Now we've talked about this before. I'm a little licky boy. We should put that back in the day. Yeah. And, and you know what? But Jenny's really makes me a little licky boy.

I, I, as far as, as, as West Coast, you know, there's, there's, there's no replacement for Brigham's, especially because it's not. Brigham's my East Coast favorite ice cream spot. I'm just, I'm basically just telling along this, the listener, the people who've listened to the podcast, I say it way too much. But Brigham's is gone now. And I guess that is my one criticism of it is that like, you can't do shakes and malts or whatever here.

And, but like what they're trying to do is they're trying to have good ice cream. And they really succeed at it. And you get a waffle bone, waffle bone. Well, you can for a dog. You get a waffle bowl, a waffle cone. You get your ice cream in there. It's, you know, there's no, there's not a lot of other stuff that they're just really going off the taste of the ice cream.

That's what they're trying to do. And it really works. It's a creamy, delicious ice cream, interesting flavors that are different, but still do the trick. The trick. They're not too crazy. Five spoons, Wags. It's, I know that people are, again, people are, are tough on this place

because of that outbreak that happened. No one died. We all got over it. Yeah. It's fine. I didn't even know about it. I've been living in this neighborhood, you know, and then a friend, I told a friend, oh, I'm, I'm doing the Doughboys podcast and I'm doing Jenny's and

she was like, oh, did you know about that outbreak? See, it didn't even, it didn't even make my news. It doesn't make my news. It's not news. Maybe they meant the Doughboys outbreak. Oh, now that I think about it, yeah, yeah, that's what she meant. It might have been it. Then I started at Jenny's.

But, but look, it's, and Lila, you just, you, you proved the point of a lot of people remember it for that. A lot of people remember for Nancy Pelosi in her fucking fridge of fucking ice cream. But yeah, I think it's fucking great. I think it's a five, it's not Jenny's fault. Not Jenny's fault that Pelosi likes it. Yeah. It's not Jenny's fault.

Not Jenny's fault. The fact that Jenny is real or freezers. I hope that Jenny is nice because the fact that she's real. I'm like, oh, Jenny is a real person. But why? I kind of want to go get that pint out of the fridge and taste some of it right now. I think, you know what, I think I might. Hey, go ahead.

Go for it. Go nuts. Five spoons, a.k.a. five forks. So it falls to me. Heavy is the head that wears the crown. This is the situation where I am the gatekeeper. I am the one who's going to decide if this makes the golden plate club or even the hallowed halls of the platinum plate club if it gets five forks all around.

And what Mitch was saying about how, you know, you can't get shakes. You can't really even get a proper Sunday here. I actually think it's to its credit because the narrowness of focus is what helps them exceed it what they're trying to do, succeed at what they're trying to do. And I really think that Jenny's is, I don't know. I mean, like of this category of creamery, they're doing it as well as anyone. And I think they've got some flavors that are just like fucking straight up just home runs. Just absolutely will connect with you.

And depending on your palate, you know, it seems like they have a lot of different varietals that will fit whatever your tastes are for sweet treats. Service was great. I do like the aesthetic of their parlors. Very pleasing. I do like that they haven't overexpanded. And I think the quality of their pints is still, you know, on par with what they have in store. So I was also going to say a forest gump thing, but I had to audible because Mitch used it,

which I did expect. So I'll go with my backup. Jenny, I like your flavor. Eight scoops heaven. Ice cream tastes fine. This is your backup? Well, I mean, I'm coming up with it on the fly. Five forks.

For Jenny's splendid ice creams. Welcome to the Platinum Play Club. Platinum Play Club. Yeah. And Wags. I mean, there's got to be some sort of new term for you and I ordering the exact same dish. There's got to be some sort of reward for that. Well, wait, you give it a lick award, right?

Yeah. I'm also giving you a lick award. Leland, do you want to give a lick award? Oh, sure. Okay. So lick awards all around. Platinum Play Club. It gets three lick awards.

Wait, what was going to be your forest gump thing? I don't. I was going to kind of riff it out. Probably just sort of be like something in a forest gump voice talking about Jenny. That's fun. I like your ice cream, whatever. I didn't do the voice either. Well, that also is the voice problematic now.

That's a good question. Because you are doing an impression of a fictional character, but it's kind of a weird trope. Anyway, I think it worked out. I think everything worked out great. I'm happy with what happened here. I'm happy that it's in the Platinum Play Club. I'm happy that it got three lick awards. And I'm also going to say this, Mitch,

yeah, when we get the same order, we got to come up with, because we have ballpark buds, we have handholding club, but this is a different sort of category. Also, forest is Magga now. He was at January 6th. Yeah. It was going to be in the sequel. Yeah.

I agree, Wags. What is it when we get the exact same thing? Taste buds. Oh, taste buds. We're taste buds. Taste buds. We're taste buds. That's really good.

We're taste buds. Hey, that was our review of Jenny's. Leland, I'm glad you liked it. As somebody who doesn't love food, I'm glad you had a place that you enjoyed. Loved it. You know what? What a who.

No stupid joke here on the label. Just we make ice cream that tells stories of the people, places, and cultures that inspire us. Wow. Well, hey. All right. While we're in Sweet Town, it's time for a segment. I've got a mystery pie, and Mitch and Leland must divine

a series of clues to ID this pastry. It's another edition of Pie in This Guy. Wow. Hit it, Emma. I started singing pie, pie, which one is in this guy? Baked a pastry that was tasty, but a mystery which guy? And Leland and Mitch, given it their best try, guessing this will be the type of this pie.

This will be the type of this pie. Okay. Should have gone up. Why? I'm active. Yeah. It's back, an in-person pie in this guy. Yeah, this is the thing.

You're not here, so we can't do the smell test, but we can do, we still have the Ask Emma lifeline. You know what? Here's what we can do for the smell test. We can have Jake smell the pie, and then Jake can say what he smells, and then you can use that for your clue. That's really good. Sorry, Jake, that we're pulling you into this immediately.

That's great. Okay, great. Where's the pie? He's fucking pissed. I've got in my backpack. Why is I got to say this? I opened up this Jenny's ice cream. Wally comes over interested and he wants to try it.

Well, give him some. Let him be a bad boy. Oh, they could be sneaky little cats. Be sneaky about the ice cream. It's chocolate, and now I'm realizing. Oh. Oh. I know cats can't have chocolate.

Is that a cat's thing too? I think cats can't have it either. I think it's for both. And cats have chocolate. Yeah. I never told you this before, Wags, but it is a fancy ice cream, and Wally and Irma, they are nepo babies. I don't know if I ever told you that.

Oh, really? They're mom and dad. Their dad is grumpy cat. Oh, yeah. And their mom is Sally Field. So they just had it easy in show business. They were just like, oh, we're starting on third. But act like we hit a triple.

Yeah. Little nepo babies. That makes me like them less. But you know what? Hey, they're talented. That's the thing. Maybe they got an advantage going in, but you have to have talent to sustain success.

So. And they've proved themselves. They've proven themselves again and again. Do you like grumpy cat and Sally Field as their parents? I mean, if I didn't think about like conception, yeah. But if I just thought about it, I wouldn't be abstract. Yeah, no, that's disgusting. I mean, but how can you not?

It's true. Therefore, I don't like it. Eating chocolate is less common in cats, but when it does happen, the toxicity is just as severe. This is according to petmd.com. So keep your cats away from Choco. Okay. I got to clean their bowl off from the Choco kibble

I gave them earlier today. Oh, boy. Here's how this works, Leland. The clues will go from more obscure to more obvious. So the first clue will be the most obscure. The fourth clue, the final clue, will hopefully just tell you exactly what it is. Question.

Yes. Is it a pastry or a pie? It's a pie specifically. Pie specifically. Thank you. We're specifically guessing a pie. You have two lifetimes. You have two lifelines.

You have the smell test. Okay. And you have ask Emma. Okay. And also, you get to choose as our guest if you go first or second. Ooh. Let's go wild.

I'll go first. You'll go first. Okay. Here's the first clue. I think that is the bad. Usually, it's the bad one to do, but then they've also been easier lately. But usually, usually going first is the worst choice.

Well, Mitch, I already said it. Sorry. I'm just letting you know. Maybe you'll be able to get it. Maybe you'll be able to get it, though. Let's just see. That's the advantage. You get first crack at it,

although it is the toughest of the clues. Here's the clue. Oh, okay. This fruit pie dates to the 16th century when it was served by Queen Elizabeth I, the ancestor of disgraced pervert Prince Andrew. The 16th century pie. Let's do...

Okay, what's like a perverty British pie? I mean, I guess the disgraced pervert happened a long time ago, so I don't have to think about that. Yeah. More just an additional bit of trivia. Yeah, just fun. That's for fun. That's for fun.

But what, maybe... But you know. All right, so a 16th century... 16th century served by Queen Elizabeth I, the fruit pie. The fruit pie. All right, let us say what is a blueberry? It's not blueberry pie.

Mitch, you get the next clue. And remember, you have two lifelines. You have the smell test and you have Ask Emma. And you can just, like, draw on the lifeline any way. Yeah, I can evoke that at any point. Oh, well, I should have... It's like millionaire. Oh, all right.

I should come up with something better than lifeline. I'll think of it. Anyway, the... Okay, Mitch, here's your clue. This sweet pie is so delectable, you might need a warrant, such as was served to Epstein associate Prince Andrew. Say it again. This sweet pie is so delectable, you might need a warrant,

such as was served to Epstein associate Prince Andrew. Oh, my gosh, I have a guess. I know it. I got it. Oh, you know it? Yeah. Should have gone second. Oh, what is that?

You know it? You know it? She's... Do you know it or no? I don't know it. I just had a guess. I think Mitch might know it. She's my cherry pie.

It's cherry? That's right. The song sung by warrants. And as though, although cherry pie is associated with America, it originated in the UK. Cherry pie, Mitch, you have won pie in this guy. Wow. Yeah.

Wow. Which normally you would get the pie. But I don't want to drop it off at your place, so. Why not? Dang, can I get your pie? I look like five minutes away. Yeah, drop it off and have the pie. What the hell?

It's not very exciting though. It's just like a hostess pie. That's fine by me. Okay, great. I'll have that over. Hold on. This is so fucked. This is what happens when you're sick, Mitch.

This is fucked. You win, but you don't win. This rocks. It's somewhere in here. All right, hey, that was pie in this guy. You can have Weigar's backpack pie. That's no thanks. Just like a restaurant without your feedback.

Let's open up the feedback. Oh, Sour Grape said the fox. Should I say Sour Cherries? This is fucked. You don't even like food, for God's sakes. Here it is. I do now. All right.

Congratulations. Look at her pretending to like food. I'm excited. All right. Today's feedback email is from Emily M. Emily writes, greetings from London. I'm an LA native. Boy.

Another SoCal surfer girl who doesn't surf, but I've lived abroad for years. Love the podcast because one, you're both awesome. Wrong. Two, and it gives me a little bit of a hint of LA, no matter where in the world I am. Living abroad is great, but I definitely miss some of the food from home.

My question for you is if you lived abroad and could pick up one restaurant from home and drop it where you live, what would it be? Mine is Don Antonio's, but especially from 10 years ago when they still had a one-dog taco night. Now, I wonder if Emily M. means the Don Antonio's on the west side of LA,

which is like a sit-down restaurant that has a really like cool interior. It has like kind of like a cave room that's kind of crystalline and has like mermaids and shit and has, you know, good margaritas and just classic sort of Mexican favorites. Yeah, it's a great spot.

I wonder if that's what Emily means. But Lila, not a food fan as we've established, don't necessarily have a favorite restaurant from home, but if there is, if you were in that situation, let's say like, hey, I got cast in this thing that shoots, you know, in Paris for a year, but I can move one restaurant that's a favorite that still offers some comfort food.

Like what might that be? Oh my goodness. Okay, I'm trying to think in the chain category. Could be chain or otherwise though. Don Antonio's not a chain. Oh, well, well, hey, I'll move pine and crane. There you go.

Yeah, that's good. That's that's that's sausage with the garlic and the dandan noodles. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. All right, I'll do that. Great choice. You really should try pine and crane. I'll try it.

You've convinced me. Get it tonight. Maybe I will. Get it tonight. I might. They're closed on Tuesdays just so you know, it's not Tuesday, but. Right.

I think it's not Tuesday as of this record. Yeah, as of this record. As of this record. Or release. Yeah. What day is it? No one knows. The listener has no idea.

It's Friday. We're recording on Friday. This is coming out on Thursday. We're recording on Friday. Yeah. I'm sick. I'm going to stay in all weekends. This fucking sucks.

Anyway. What else were you going to do? I was going to stay in all weekend. That you're going to run a 10K or something. How do you know? I mean, maybe I would have. Maybe it would have been my first fucking 10K. Okay.

We could do that for the podcast. No. This is going to be 10 cakes. How about that? We could do that too. Mitch, we're here in, you're here in LA. You live in, well, you live in LA part of the time now. You're home in Quincy, Massachusetts a lot.

But you, but like, let's say you could have some. You're one step ahead of me. Quincy favorite spot. Some Boston favorite spot in LA year round. What would it be? And maybe vice versa. You're one step ahead of me. I'm going to go by coastal area.

I'm going to give you a breakdown of what I do. Wow. If I'm anywhere else in the world, including in Los Angeles, because look, sadly, like the things that I would love to, like I'm like, well, I'll always have like McDonald's and Wendy's. That will be like available. You know, like that's what I'm thinking of. But honestly, of course, I think for the West coast, I want Regina.

I don't want the original, that original Regina. Pizzeria Regina, and that would be anywhere else in the world. If I could just always have that available, just as an option, I would always want that. And then if you go the other way, if I'm leaving LA, and is it a restaurant or like just one? It's a restaurant. I mean, whatever you want is up for grabs.

A food place? Yeah. If it's a one off, if it's a stand, a truck. This is tricky because it's, it's, it's, you're going to laugh at my, one of my answers. But I think Cactus Taqueria is maybe one of my choices. Good taqueria. And the other one that I'm balancing it with is like,

the chain version of it is Paquito Mas, because I'm just like, oh, that's fucking great. You could do a lot worse than Paquito Mas. Mm-hmm. Oh man, In-N-Out burger is great too. I'm just trying to think of like, shit. You know what?

I'm going to go, I'm going to go Cactus Taqueria. That's my answer. Because I just don't think that you can get, besides San Diego or whatever, you can't get a burrito like that anywhere else. Cactus. In a lot of the country you can, but I, imagining like where you might be relocating towards,

so that like, if you were like in the East Coast. Hold on a second, yes. Then you have a lot of the other options there. But a lot of, in a lot of the country, you can't get a burrito like Cactus. If Cactus is like knocking out of the park, it's like, like I said, San Diego, LA, San Fran, and San Fran is the mission style burrito, so.

You can get a lot of good Mexican food in a lot of the Southwest. I don't know. As good as Cactus? I think you're overselling Cactus a little bit. Cactus is good. I don't think you've had Cactus at its greatest. Cactus is great.

I've had Cactus plenty. Cactus is good. I like Cactus. I question if you've had a Cactus at all now. I've had Cactus. I don't know. Well, what's your fucking answer, hot shot? What the fuck are you going to do?

I've lived in LA County my entire life, so. I guess I wish the Jersey Mike's that is like 15 minutes away was like five minutes away. Jesus Christ. She could walk to the Jersey Mike's. If you had to move somewhere else, what restaurant do you move? I mean, in my head, I was like, Jit Lada I think is one of the best restaurants in the world.

Yeah, I mean, Jit Lada fucking rules. I think that the thing that I would probably be missing in much of the world would be good Mexican food. I do think you can get a good burger a lot of different places. Then what the hell's wrong with Cactus? Great answer. It's a fine answer. Yeah.

Insane. So what, in and out burger? I thought you'd just be in and out burger. I among chains would be in and out burger and perhaps like a Del Taco. Just because I have a specific fandom for Del Taco, although Taco Bell is in a similar category. But in terms of one-off restaurants, I'd have to think a little bit.

But yeah, I'd probably bring a Mexican restaurant. But you know, a place like Gilbert's El Indio, which is just like, you can just sort of sit down, classic vibe, cash only, you know, like a strong margaritas and just a bunch of different classics. And it's just got like a really cool like energy in there. I mean, that's the kind of place that I think of like, oh, I could just go there and hang out for a second and get something that reminds me of home.

Although there are, you know, whatever, there are plenty of good Mexican restaurants and taquerias that you could find in the city, obviously. But that's what I think of. I don't know. Well, that's a great answer. It's a fine answer. Javier Bardem just nerfed the guy from Office Space.

Which guy? You know who he is. And I know his name too. So I feel... I forgot about this. I forgot the guy from Office Space was in... I'm finding it right now. Your country for old men.

Man, he just fucking, he fucked him up bad. Emma, do you have a, is there a, is there a taste of home that you miss when you're, when you're not in Maine, when you're not in the, the, when you're not in New England? Yeah. I mean, I love the seafood here, like homemade seafood, just like the local stuff. That's hard.

It's not really a restaurant to transplant. There is a sandwich place here in Kennebunk. There's a couple of them around now, but the originals in Kennebunk called Bennett's Subs. And it's just like a classic sub shop and they make the best sandwiches. And the one in Kennebunk is actually closed right now because they closed for the winter. So I wish it, if I could just open it for the winter, I'd do that.

Wow. Yeah. I think so much of the, this is, the answer here is contingent on where you're living. Because obviously, like if you're living in London, I think Emily's answer is partly because she, this doesn't have great Mexican food there. For sure.

But, you know. Right. Yeah. I didn't think about it. I'm like in abroad and Taiwan, then that's dumb to bring a Taiwanese restaurant. Yeah. You're sitting pretty. Yeah.

You got to think about what's local. Yeah. I was thinking of that too. Yeah. Or like your hometown pizza spot, like that would be a good thing to just take anywhere with you. Cause like you can get pizza anywhere, but like, yeah, your hometown pizza spot that's just like what you grew up with

or whatever, something like that. I want to change my answer to Mitch's and I want to say cactus. All right, cactus. Love it. Yeah. Do you like cactus, Leelan? I mean, really, I just want to assuage your rage toward Mitch. You're just so upset at him.

But like, and he's already like approved it. It's just not to the level that you find acceptable. Yeah. So I just want to, I want to help you out. I've never been. Oh, man, you're going to go. You would love it. I'm willing to try.

Um, I mean, you don't have to go. Stephen Root. But if you go, you'll have a good time. Stephen Root. Oh, oh, right. Of course it's Stephen. I don't know how I forgot his fucking name. He's great.

I've only seen No Country for Old Men once. Is there more that happens than Javier Bardem kills people? Like what I remember is just like one thing, one set piece where he's just killing people. And then at the end of the movie, he's done with killing people. Like that's, I don't remember. It's a little bit of, it's a little bit of a mystery. The whole thing is kind of like a, yeah.

It's a little bit of like a, what's the name? Find some money. I can't remember anyone's name is the other issue. What's his name? Who's in the Goonies? Find some money. Josh Brolin. Brolin, thank you.

Yeah, Josh Brolin. And yeah, and, and, you know, there's also just thematically, I feel like a lot of it is just Tommy Lee Jones's character, just the, the idea of an aging person feeling powerless and realizing that there's just, you know, forces that exist that they have. Is this a common thing that like, that has already been established? But like, I remember it came out the same time as no country for old men. And I did not distinguish between the two for a very long time.

Wait, you said no country for old men? There will be, there will be blood. Oh yes, yeah. There will be blood. Different move. They're completely different. They're very different. But like, but I shared this with somebody and they were like, me too.

And I was like, is that just the thing? Like there was, there's a group of us out here that did not distinguish those as different movies. We saw them and they were still one movie to us. They're both titles that are kind of complete thoughts. I think, yeah, maybe that's what happened. And they're also kind of grim. Yeah.

No country for old men. There will be blood. Yeah. And kind of sun dried. They're like, they're very like, like, yeah. I think, you know why I think that people got this confused a lot is because in no country for old men, there is blood. And there will be blood is about a country for an old man.

Alanis. Land. Alanis. Alanis? Alanis. Here's also, here's something ironic too. This country is run by old men. Thank you, Mitch.

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Leland Bowden, thank you so much for being here. What an absolute treat. Please come back in the pod. So much fun. Anything you would like to plug at this time? You kind of got all those things. Shrinking in Apple TV show is coming out January 27th. Is that will that be released?

Yeah, this will be out by then. I think it's really cool. It's got Jason Siegel and Harrison Ford. I played Jason Siegel's dead wife. Very cool. Yes, happy to be dead in this context. And yeah, Brewster High, very funny podcast. And I would love to plug self-care for everyone.

There you go, yeah. That's a great thing to plug. We don't do it enough. And doing nothing. I'd love to also plug doing nothing. I've discovered it a little bit this year. Great. Yeah, you're in good company.

I discovered a long time ago. I love it. And also self-care is the year for self-care. Wags, Javier Bardem just drove by Wendy's too in this. So he's even more like you than I thought. Wow, wow. Do you have that weird, what is that, the weird pressurized gun

in your fucking backpack? It's next to the pie. That is now my pie. All right, that'll do it for this episode of Doe Boys. Until next time, for The Spoonman, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weigher. Happy eating. See ya. On the next Doe Boys Double, it's Valentine's Day,

which means it's time for Doe Boys Love Week. Lovebirds Patrick Babbit and Jackie Deruthi become our new loves as we discuss a director we love, The Finchman, and review his classic romantic comedy, Gone Girl. Love Week, Gone Girl. Tuesday only at patreon.com slash Doe Boys. Sources for the intro are in the episode description. That was a hate gun podcast.