Doughboys - Little Caesars 3 with Johnno Wilson
Episode Date: January 9, 2025Johnno Wilson (@johnnowilson, Twisted Metal) joins the 'boys to talk Massachusetts eats, Twisted Metal Season 2, and big names before a return visit to Little Caesars Pizza. Plus, another edi...tion of Slop Quiz.Watch this episode at youtube.com/doughboysmediaGet ad-free episodes at patreon.com/doughboysGet Doughboys merch at kinshipgoods.com/doughboysAdvertise on Doughboys via Gumball.fmSources for this week's intro:https://gameworldobserver.com/2024/10/28/balatro-four-friends-and-parents-expectations-localthunkhttps://www.theverge.com/24082252/balatro-review-poker-roguelike-videogamehttps://www.pcgamer.com/games/card-games/balatro-is-the-first-deckbuilder-i-ever-played-says-developer-who-singlehandedly-made-balatro/https://www.rewindandcapture.com/why-is-little-caesars-called-little-caesars/https://www.mashed.com/94230/untold-truth-little-caesars/See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
This is a HeadGum Podcast.
Want to watch this episode?
Check it out on our YouTube channel at youtube.com slash doughboysmedia.
I was expecting like four of my friends and my parents to buy the game and that would
have been awesome, so no, the entire past year has been a series of crazy events. This was solo developer Local Thunk reflecting on the unexpected success of his indie game,
Bolatro.
On February 20th, 2024, the pseudonymous Local Thunk unceremoniously released Bolatro,
a deck-building roguelite that remixed the rules of poker in a soothed core aesthetic,
on the Steam store.
With vibes aided by a looping chillwave score
by composer Lewis F., the ingeniously addictive design would become one of the breakout hits of
2024, selling over 3 million copies by year's end and winning Independent Game of the Year
at the Game Awards. In Bellatro, a core gameplay mechanic involves collecting and utilizing
jokers, wild cards that alter the rules of a run and in so doing,
guide the player's deck-building strategy. And while many might reasonably assume Bellatro
is one of those made-up video game words like refantasio or revengeance or undiscovery,
it's in fact a brilliantly fitting name with historical origins. Because Bellatro was the
term for a jester, or joker if you will, in ancient Rome.
No doubt Julius Caesar and his grand-nephew Augustus Caesar were amused by the jokes and japs of Bellatro's in their imperial courts, where they also gorged until they puked and then fucked everyone.
In 1959, partners Mike and Marion Illich opened a Detroit-area pizza parlor that's the namesake of both the last Roman dictator and the first Roman Emperor. Its mascot would become a
diminutive simulacrum of toga-clad Roman rulers with signature catchphrase
pizza pizza. No relation to the Canadian chain of the same name. The company's
success led to a footprint as sprawling as the Roman Empire itself and today it
has grown to the third largest pizza chain by sales in America.
In 2024, mere weeks after the release of Bellatro, the chain debuted Crazy Puffs, cheesy saucy bites with a form factor of cupcakes, and the once limited time
offering has since become a regular menu item. Bellatro seems set to be a time-sink fixture on
smartphones and steam decks for the foreseeable future. But will the crazy puffs sold at the Roman pastiche pizza pie purveyor have similar staying
power?
This week on Doughboys,. Double boy Doughboyz.
Double boy.
Welcome to Doughboyz, the podcast about chain restaurants.
I'm Nick Weiger along with my co-host,
OB-10-1 Kenobi, the Spoon Man Mike Mitchell.
Oh, 10-1.
Yeah.
A good day for that roast.
A roast for Mitch's tendency to delay production
with long bathroom trips.
My tendency to delay production.
I mean, perhaps our guest can speak to that.
Let's make theme park month happen
and also come to North Carolina.
Andrew from Charlotte, roastedbirdfuck.com.
Not going to North Carolina anymore.
Why not?
After that shit.
Actually, it's not that bad.
That was not that bad.
Yeah, he wasn't making fun. That was not that bad.
Yeah, he wasn't making fun of me too much.
Yeah.
Like you could've spent like,
like OB one inch dick Kenobi or something like that.
You know, that would have been more insulting.
I'm glad you explored where it could have gone.
Right.
Petey Pablo at the Oakwood while I lived there.
Petey Pablo?
North Carolina, come on and rise up. Okay, that's fun. Take your shirt off and spin it around your head like an helicopter. Okay, I know there. Petey Pablo, North Carolina. Come on and rise up.
OK, that's your shirt off and spin it around your head.
OK, I know that.
I know that I've heard our guest often spin around your head.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't know the artist.
Petey Pablo.
Yes.
Did you ever take your shirt off and spin around your head
like a helicopter?
My guess is no.
I think I've done that as a little boy, probably for fun.
It's like a fun little kid thing, but not as an adult. It is a fun.
Yeah.
That's like a frat guy thing.
I feel like.
Yeah.
That's a lot of frat guys.
I actually like, that's how a lot of frat accents happen.
They like spin their shirt over the head and they fly off.
Go into the sun.
Oh man.
Chibo.
So sad.
We miss you.
Chibo.
Big stands.
Waved around his head,
helicoptered up on his son.
Flock man.
We miss you, Chibo.
Who's a pledge every year to this?
Seagaps numbers are dwindling.
Yeah, Pee-Dee-Paw-Bow is fucking,
he's hurt a lot of people.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why, there's a lot of chaos this morning.
Lot of chaos, Mitch.
Happy Chew Year.
This is the first Doughboy's mainline episode of 2025.
What a guess.
We're very happy.
We're recording this in December of 2024.
On the day of the Headgum holiday party, I have to say, I have never seen this many people
in the office.
It's crazy how many people actually work here
when people show up.
There's so many people here doing the job
of putting up balloons.
And we'll get to it, but the head gum hunks
already threw me, I'm already fucking pissed off.
We ordered Little Caesars, which I like.
You and I like those.
We like Little Caesars.
We like Little Caesars.
The pizza, the working class, we'll talk about it.
Emma and I were saying this in the other room.
We were like, we got a bunch of leftover pizza.
It's gonna be great because the
headgum holiday party is tonight.
That's right.
And we can eat some pizza after we've had a couple drinks.
I come in here, Emma's like, the hunks took all the pizza.
There's a table full of hunks that is in your eyeline.
You can watch them. Yes.
And they're all sitting out there
at what's ostensibly a workstation.
They're all just chowing down on the pizza that we ordered.
Yes, it's so, and my blood is boiling.
It also came about, like all the hunks were like,
oh, none of us have ever had it.
Yes. It's crazy.
Yes, which is insane that none of them ever had it.
They're all-
Damn, I miss Cheebo.
Tonight's party is dedicated to Cheebo.
They never had Little Caesars.
They're all eating it in my direct eye line.
It's bad.
And also, you said this great thing is that
they're gonna maybe have to take a shit for the first time that they never been here.
Never shit at the offices before.
Yeah. Now they can finally discover the horrors of the head gum echo toilet.
You said a couple of things that were funny and I forgot them.
That was one. That's all right.
But also, no, it's not all right.
I should remember.
And then I say more funny things on the podcast.
Here's the other thing, though, too, is that they lunch. They had they just had just got their having more liver. Yeah
Got that hunk metabolism this fucking place. Yeah, everyone. We also said we'd close the curtains and you said no keep them open
Amelia went and asked for a slice and now I
On your behalf.
On my behalf.
I wanted one slice of Detroit,
so this is what this is right here.
And then like came in here and like visibly gave me
the slice that I just put on the,
so all the hunks know.
I, like I said, it's like the fat kid asking
for another piece of cake.
Yeah, she walked in like she was like presenting
like a scepter to a Lord, just like holding it aloft, like here you are sire.
And they all fucking saw it.
They were watching it happen.
They all saw it, all the hunks saw it.
I also liked that our guest was like, those are hunks?
Fuck yeah.
Very hunky.
Yeah, yeah, he's a fucking alpha hunk.
Fuck these other fucking,
he would never be friends with Cheebo.
Mitch, I do wanna get to our guest and I want to get to the drop,
but I have one other thing I wanted to bring up up top.
So I've been dealing with orofacial pain.
I've been dealing with my jaw.
It's all fucked up,
but you maybe have heard it a couple of times
while we were eating that it pops out of socket
on the right side.
So I saw an orof-
Not fun.
To witness for me, I feel bad for you when I see it happen.
I saw in a, thanks buddy,
I saw an orofacial pain specialist yesterday.
I want to shout out Snoopy Blah in the dose chord
who recommended someone with that specialty.
And as part of it, my mouth got measured.
And I actually have this device here
that was invented by Dr. Hers Hershinger who I saw.
This is the gentle jaw.
And he measured my mouth and said it was in the top 1%
of mouth sizes.
Wow.
And so I have the gentle jaw here.
This is like a mouth stretching device.
You're trying to make your jaw bigger?
No, well, here's what I'm gonna say.
This is the largest of the three sizes available.
And I will go to the largest setting here.
I love it.
Hell, I love it.
Wow.
It could go even bigger.
Yeah, isn't that crazy?
He said it was one of the top 10 biggest mouths
he's seen in his career.
She was a guy who went to dental school in the 80s.
She was made in the Guinness Book of World Records
or something.
I wonder.
This is why we're the Doughboys, baby.
I know, born to eat, born to talk.
You do have a fucking big mouth.
I do have a big old mouth, yeah.
Never shut the fuck up.
I think I do backwards, do I go?
Yeah.
All right, all right, all right.
Or is it the other way?
It's the other way.
So this device will stop you from going down on yourself?
Is that what I have?
Like an animal lector mask?
yourself is that what I also likes this a new year we can say come again I just last year our resolution which we held to yeah we held to last year no we did
and it was great our guest is mortified doesn't know what podcast he's on wise I
had I've also gone through as, as some health
stuff this last year, which actually our guest and you both
know about.
Yeah.
And then I'm taking this drug right now and I forgot it on the
day of the record, but I think that possibly all my, uh, you
know, my, my, my dizziness and my, uh, my brain fog was, uh,
secretly migraines
that weren't showing up as headaches.
So I'm taking this drug.
Wow.
Not to push drugs, but I'm taking Q-Lipta
and I forgot it and Amelia had to go back to my house
and get it because we thought I might as well
have a good record.
Very nice of her to do that.
Extremely nice, yeah.
She also sent over some pics of Wally and Irma.
She did, that was very coochie FaceTimed us with Wally and Irma.
Irma came up and said hello, Wally was a little bit scared.
He was on the stairs saying hi.
Wait, so Amelia today went to get you your medicine
and a piece of pizza.
Amelia's really...
Yeah.
Yeah.
...a mum-ya.
Yeah, I was gonna say, she's a good babysitter.
Certainly that Christmas bonus today.
Yeah, she certainly is.
Which sadly, the Christmas bonus do a baby teaser. Certainly that Christmas bonus today. It certainly is.
Which sadly, the Christmas bonus was the leftover pizza.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
Wow.
What a start to the day.
What a start to the day, and Mitch,
what a start to the podcast, because we have the winner.
That dude just threw that last of his slice in the trash.
I saw it.
I saw it.
A single nibble taken out of a corner.
Hmm, this won't do for me.
And carry a salad out the door.
You're taking your medicine right now.
You're taking a little sip of Liquid Death as you do so.
We had the drop off with the drop King of Arbor singer
as one of the judges, along with Emma and Casey and Amelia
and you and I to pick the-
I got a pitch.
Yeah.
Liquid death, they should come up with a line
called solid death.
Popsicles.
Kind of following the-
Water popsicles?
Yeah.
The flavored ones.
Ice cubes.
Yeah, flavored water, yeah, that's fun.
That's fun, I like this, Mitch, I like this bit.
Thank you, wise.
It's also, it's very metal gear.
We have liquid snake and solid snake,
so I think that's fun.
You did hold up plain water.
You did hold up plain water and said solid death,
so it would just be an ice cube.
Did I go after the head gum hunks a little too much for ya?
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Choose your fucking side, Casey.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
God. Ha ha ha ha ha. This gives me a little bit of tummy troubles,
is the only thing, this keel up.
Oh, okay.
I'm sure the little seizures will help.
We had a, so we had the drop off
as our final Patreon episode of 2024,
where we picked a winner of a bunch of user,
there's a baker's dozen of listener submitted drops,
great, great drops all around.
But we picked the best of all as our winner.
That was the winner of the drop off
and that will be played whenever you queue it up.
What the fuck?
Howdy ho to Spoon Nation.
Emma hit him with a drop.
Mitch, at some point, did your mom hold up a spoonful
or didn't have a pecan on it?
And she was like, no pecan, no pecan, no pecan.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I feel like shit Cuz last night, I choked on a cheese it Choking on a cheese it
Choking on a cheese it
I was choking on a cheese it
Choking on a cheese it
I choked on a cheese it
No big care
Choking on a cheese it
I choked on a cheese it
Choking on a cheese it
I was choking on a cheese it
Choking on a cheese it
I choked on a cheese it
No big care
I feel like it's in my, uh, what's it called? My sinuses.
Oh, I thought you were trying to think of the word for throat
I don't remember you making fun of me at the end of it
Wait I don't either
Did we cut it off during the drop off?
Did it get cut off by a streamer or something?
I don't think it would have won
I liked it
Wow a great drop and a fitting winner of the drop off
I'd say a very fitting winner, except again,
I don't like the ending there.
Hey, Doughboys, Kenny here.
I made the Dead Man's Hole drop.
I occasionally save random clips of Doughboys
when I hear rhythms or melodies in a funny phrase you say.
These were two of my favorites, so I mashed them up.
This is definitely not as good as Dead Man's Hole,
but I hope you still enjoy it. By the way, check out my remix on the Dutz remix album and shout out to Alex B in
Massachusetts. That's Kenny Gray. Wow. Kenny, nice work. And you know, we all have our own self
assessment as creatives of our own output, but I think there's something that Dead Man's Hole
did not win the drop off.
That was a previous drop off entry.
A great drop.
A great drop.
This entry to the drop off ends up taking the crown.
So congratulations, Kenny, you outdone yourself.
It was just funny that there was,
what are those things where,
like when you stack them up outside of buildings to work on?
Bricks?
Scaffolding? Scaffolding.
Okay.
I'm not that dumb. Bricks? Scaffolding? Scaffolding. Okay. I'm not that dumb. Bricks?
Bricks?
I just forgot scaffolding for a second.
But it was very funny.
They were, you know, there's like,
like you said, the most people you've ever seen in here,
a lot of guys.
And then I just saw this poor woman by herself
moving the scaffolding
What the fuck is wrong with you head gum?
Damn it anyways this is back. Oh Marty Marty met maybe Marty was in the front of it
Or maybe Marty was just yelling at her and telling her
Alright here we go our guest today an actor and comedian. Wow. From season two of Twisted Metal, coming soon to Peacock,
Jon O. Wilson is here.
Hi Jon O.
Oh hey guys, I'm so happy to be here.
Thanks.
My God.
Thanks so much for making time for us.
I mean, it's my pleasure.
It's my pleasure.
It was 15, it was like 15,
I told you like we'll talk for five minutes,
it was like 15 minutes.
We talked for a while.
That's okay, it was fun to listen to.
You were both being very funny.
Oh, God bless.
I got here by taking my shirt off and helicoptering it
I do remember being on the East Coast and taking my shirt off in bars and whipping it around my head when I was like
Like 20 yeah sure one 22 see I would've got I feel like if I took my shirt off in the bar
Which I never would do because I would be I could see I could see you really winning the bar over by doing that.
I think so.
On the East Coast, not on the West Coast.
Yes.
Right.
Because I did it when I got to the West Coast too.
So I guess I was like 27.
Nobody liked it, nobody liked it.
I think that I would be kicked out of a bar
for doing that more so.
I feel like I would get the boot.
You too, if you took your shirt off.
No, yeah, no.
People would think something was going on.
Yeah, 100%.
The guy up to.
I think those hunks do it.
Yeah, they 100% do it.
They 100% do it.
They 100% do it.
Johnny, you mentioned the East Coast.
You grew up in Massachusetts like the Spoon Man,
that's correct? Yes, yes, I did.
But he's Quincy, which is like real,
it's like close to Boston, it's real Boston.
I grew up in Shrewsbury, which is like real. It's like close to Boston. It's real Boston. I grew up in Shrewsbury, which is like, I was just,
honestly, I was just like a yuppie little shit.
Where is Shrewsbury geographically?
Central Massachusetts.
Central Mass, okay, so not all the way to Western Mass.
I'm not being hard on myself.
Well, this is why I never want to tell people
that I'm from Boston.
Sure.
Because it's not Boston at all.
You know?
It's a little- I always would say I'm from Quincy Mass. I'd be like, I'm from Quincy Mass. And it's not Boston at all. Right. You know, it's a little-
I always would say I'm from Quincy, Mass.
I'd be like, I'm from Quincy, Mass.
And then they'd be like, where is that?
I was like, outside of Boston.
And then one time someone was like, where are you from?
I was like, Boston.
And there was a guy from Massachusetts.
He's like, we're from in Boston.
I was like, Quincy's like, that's not Boston.
And I was like, where are you from?
And he was from like Western Mass.
I was like, you can't say that to me.
Don't call me out, I'm closer than you.
Yeah, I was also like, I wasn't repping that. I was like, one of the few times I said it and I was like, you can't say that to me. Don't pull me out. I'm closer than you. Yeah.
Also, I was like, I wasn't repping
that I was like one of the few times I said it.
And I was like, ugh.
Yeah, you were just being a little lazy geographically.
Yes.
Which is fine.
We all use that sort of shorthand though.
Which is true.
I was born in Boston, Massachusetts.
Is that not enough for you, you piece of shit?
This guy from 20 years ago that I don't know.
The guy I'm still mad at?
Just like, I'll be mad at this in 20 years?
I'm like, probably my deathbed.
It took all the little Caesar's leftovers.
Hopefully you two are there.
You're in now.
Yeah, if we don't die first.
That's not going to happen.
Wait, you want us at your deathbed?
Is that what you're saying?
Yeah.
OK, I'll be there.
All right, yeah, I'll be there.
I'm going first between the three of us, me first.
I don't know.
Cause you want the attention.
I want the attention a little bit.
Yeah.
Like if you got really sick, I'd be like too bad, bang.
Fucking.
You'd show up to his deathbed with a gun.
Guess what?
You'd be like, guess what, this is my deathbed, bang.
It'd be like Mitch was so distraught
over his sick co-host that he couldn't take living anymore.
And that'd be like, that was the sad part of the story.
I mean, I'm fucking dying over here.
Throw me a bone.
They'd be fucking, they'd put you in a straightjacket
when you're like, he wanted the attention!
Okay, so you grew up in Massachusetts.
You know, we obviously talk about whatever bullshit,
but we are primarily a food podcast.
Do you have any food memories?
And the shrews, did I remember the shrews?
Nobody ever called it that.
The...
The...
You know, my mom really didn't like to cook much,
so we would get a lot of great food
from a Greek pizzeria called Shrewsbury Pizzeria.
Wow, still open?
In the center of town.
I actually don't know.
I hope so.
I hope so too,
because it was great.
Greek pizza.
Yeah, Greek pizza, a lot of fun.
Greek pizza, funny enough, kind of has the texture.
And we got, look, I'm gonna to just say, give a spoiler alert.
We've got a most bestest cheese pizza.
Yeah.
And kind of has the similar vibe to Greek pizza.
Yeah.
Which is like buttery crusts, kind of like a,
almost like a, like the bottom of it is like very,
like a bunch of holes.
You know what I mean?
Like it's like very, like a.
You know, it's funny you mentioned that,
like how often, you remember like they would have
big crusted bubbles on the pizza.
I like never see that.
Yeah, yeah.
And I don't know. Where do those go?
I don't know.
What happened to the bubbles?
What happened to the bubbles?
I like the bubbles, you bite into it, it's empty.
I think it's fun.
I feel like everyone's like got really into
the cuppy pepperoni and the pepperoni cups
had this resurgence,
but I think people forgot about the bubbles.
Yeah.
Bubbles are fun too.
So Dave Portnoy's just ruined pizza in America.
How so?
Should we go after Dave Portnoy?
Yeah.
Seems like a good battle to pick.
I think that like, there's a very, look,
there's all sorts of fun styles of pizza
and like a big airy, like bubbles in the pizza.
I know that's fun.
I think people don't, like if,
I think now there's like some pizza snobs
that if you got bubbles on your pizza, they're like,
ugh, I don't like the bubbles.
They're fun.
Screw them.
They're fun.
You don't want an old bubble pizza.
Don't get me wrong.
No, no, no.
But there's like one or two bubbles
and you get one of your slices.
Yeah, it's fun.
It's fun.
Are you gonna eat that slice now?
Cause now I'm just kinda looking at it like-
It's gotta be freezing cold.
No, you don't get the fucking slice.
I'm not saying I'm gonna eat it.
I'm just saying like, is it gonna just sit there untouched?
You gonna have it at some point?
I'm gonna have it at some point.
You gonna unhinge your jaw and fucking swallow it?
That's actually a question I had.
What is that thing supposed to do for your jaw?
Is it just to help you show off how big your mouth is?
No.
For people in the ordinary-
You're a podcaster, you're gonna wanna take this.
For people in the ordinary ranges of mouth size,
it could like stretch your mouth.
So for instance, like I've got this,
this is the big size, this is the big boy.
But it also has a small, here's a small size.
Can I try the small one?
And then a medium, yeah, you can try the small size.
There you go.
So what, I just put it in my mouth?
Yeah, you just kind of put it in your mouth.
So this, the part without the ridges
goes on your bottom teeth,
so put that in your bottom teeth first,
and then just find the right opening,
and you can sort of situate it there.
And yeah, the idea is that you-
What's the right opening, like, tents,
or like, as far open as you can go?
Pretty far open, because the idea is to, like,
kind of stretch the muscles of-
As I sit with that in my mouth,
it is like, oh, this is like,
I mean, it's not stretched.
This is the smallest one.
Do you want the medium?
Oh God, the smallest one again?
All right, let me try the medium.
Okay, great.
So it stretches it out.
I was gonna say, John, do you wanna try it,
but maybe this is gross.
Well, we did a lot of stuff on set.
We did do a lot of stuff on set.
No spoiler alerts.
It's funny because we can't even really talk about
who you are in the show.
No, I don't even know if you're supposed to say
I'm on the show.
We can say that you're on the show.
Yeah, okay, all right.
I think so.
Are you gonna get in trouble?
Oh, come on.
I don't think so.
Are you gonna get in trouble for saying you're on the show?
I'll text the show runner during this show
and we'll see what happens.
Okay, yeah, okay, okay.
But we had a lot of fun.
I'll say this.
Well, we'll go on with this first.
Yes, so the idea is that you do like a 30 second set
and it just kind of like stretches
and strengthens the muscles of your jaw,
the four muscles that comprise
the opening and closing of your jaw.
And then that over time,
Mitch is demonstrating it right now for audio listeners. For some reason, this looks like the opening and closing of your jaw. And then that over time, Mitch is doing, demonstrating it right now
for audio listeners.
Over time.
For some reason this looks like the laziest usage.
What are we?
His eyes are just dead.
As he does it.
But over time it can resolve some of the like,
similar to the issues that I have
or other issues people have just by having, you know,
it's kind of like physical therapy for your job.
It's like stretching after you work out.
Exactly.
The reason I ask is because my fiance, who when this comes out,
she will be my wife.
Wow!
Congratulations.
How about that?
How about that?
I asked Jono to do a bit in We Wish You a Silly Spoof Miss,
a show at, used to be at, used to be now
is at Elysian Theater.
Yeah, but Neil Campbell and Paul Rust
and Michael Daniel Cassidy host the podcast,
or host the show, always a lot of fun every year.
It will be over at this point anyways,
but I asked Jono to do it,
and I did my bit was,
I saw Santa shooting Ozempic
standing on my bathroom scale last night.
And at the end, I was gonna have Jono come out
in a Santa suit with no shirt on, just like this jacket.
And go, and this is why I'm so sad.
Go ahead, say your line.
Ho ho hunk.
I feel great. How good is that? It's good. It would have been fucking great. I'll be in Santa Barbara for my wedding.
And then you did offer, you said, should I push the wedding? And I said yes. Please push, cancel the wedding, whatever you have to do.
But we love Annalisa, she's great.
She's great.
What a duo you guys are.
But this is what I was gonna say.
So she has problems with her jaw too.
And when she was still auditioning,
we were doing an audition once
and at the end of the audition, she had to go,
like she sees something and she has to act surprised
and she's like, and runs off.
Yeah.
And so we finished it and like at the end of the scene
and she goes, oh, and runs off.
And I was like, all right, that was good.
Let's just try it one more time.
And she's like, I don't know.
And I was like, what?
And she was just like, and her jaw had dislocated.
Yeah.
It was so terrifying.
And honestly, like I'm usually not a man,
very manly to be honest, but I like really,
I stepped it up, I found out where the closest hospital was
and took her there, but like her mouth was just locked.
And they had to go in, they gave her some drugs
and just cracked the thing back in the place.
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
What a nightmare.
Yeah, so I might invest in one of those.
Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, I found it.
Is that a wedding gift? Yeah, so I might invest in one of those. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, I found it.
Is that a wedding gift?
So you don't cause me any more trouble.
I hate being manly. I laughed when you did that because you're like, oh, you did a very good job doing that.
But also, I also laughed at you being like, okay, that was good, but let's do another take. Your thing before, you were very much in audition,
like a helper of audition mode.
Yeah, right.
I've said before that like the most,
like the work, like I feel like the meanest
I've ever been to my mom is during audition.
Like I hate, auditioning is a horrible process
a lot of the time.
That's become more, and we've talked about the podcast
and then Jono, you've certainly experienced this too
as a working actor.
It's a process that became more degrading
because things moved towards having to self-tape.
You used to go into a place to audition in person.
Now it's like, hey, shoot a video on your own,
and we have expectations for it to be at a certain level
of audio and visual quality,
and also you're gonna have to find someone
that some unpaid labor,
some family member or friend to read against you,
to read the other lines.
Yes.
So it's a whole fucking thing.
And then you just send it out to the void.
You don't get to see, like, their reactions
or anything like that.
No one watches it all.
And I told you that when my mom,
I've said this on the podcast before,
but when I'm auditioning and I do a line,
like, I say a line correct, basically. just get the lines right and do it. Maybe decent my mom goes
I go ma you can't you can't do that and she'll just
Every time during the thing I'm like you can't do that. It's like distracting. I'm looking at you do it. It's adorable
It's she's sweet. It's sweet extremely sweet. It's a it's it's like distracting. I'm looking at you do it. It's adorable. It's sweet. She's extremely sweet.
It's in everyone I've talked to before,
I'm like, oh, the people I love the most,
I'll do auditions with them and then be the,
like the angriest I'll get.
It's not, it's a, this is all,
the angriest I've been at you,
I will never get angry at my mom that way, of course.
Wait, really?
The way I got angry at you?
You've never been as angry at your mom
as you have been at me, is that true?
I mean, maybe once or twice.
Like as a teenager, and then she chokeslammed my ass
and that was over with.
My mom spanked me so hard once I went flying up in the air
and landed on the ground and my brother started crying.
Wow!
The pain from my ass went into my brother. I was on the ground and he was, no!
Your wife also has, well your wife to be, well your wife now also has a podcast. She's
a podcaster. Yes she does. Wow's a podcaster. Yes, she does.
Wow, you got everyone.
Yeah, of course.
Yeah.
Wanna plug the pod?
Yeah, I'd love to plug it.
It's called The Big Names Podcast.
The Big Names Podcast.
Wow, wow.
Annalisa Vanderpohl and Christy Carlson Romano.
Wow. Big names.
Those are big names.
Big names.
Who I met also, I met your wife up in Toronto, Canada.
Toronto, Canada, yeah.
Ever do an episode on Boutrous Boutrous Golly?
It's a pretty big name.
I don't think so.
Ha ha ha ha.
Who is Boutrous?
Former UN Secretary General.
Oh yeah, of course.
I like that you gave him the nice follow up, who is that?
Ha ha ha ha.
Oh, some guy no one really knows? Cool.
Um.
Some guys smart people know.
Awesome, great.
Thanks for making me feel dumb.
Wait, you did go to Georgetown.
Yeah, I did, but I don't feel like I really learned much.
But did you have, okay.
The exorcist stairs.
The exorcist stairs.
The exorcist stairs, yeah.
You must have seen them in person.
Oh yeah, Bunch.
Wow.
Bunch.
Ran up a couple times.
Whoa, that's cool.
Wow.
Yeah.
They're not as close to the house as it looks in the movie.
Yeah, that's cinema.
They're about 30 yards away.
They cheated it a little bit.
There's no way the priest fell down those stairs.
Right.
That demon maybe launched him.
That's true.
The demon could have launched him quite a bit.
Yeah, and they didn't want to show that because it could
have been all the tension had built,
and then you're just laughing at him going,
whoa!
What's the demon's name in that?
It's Mr. Howdy, is right, but I think it's...
Oh yeah, right, right, right.
It's a scary movie.
The actual name of the guy, it's Pazuzu.
Pazuzu is the demon, that's his name.
Don't say it out loud.
I know, I know, I know. Don't say it out loud. I know, I know.
Don't say it out loud, your house is gonna get haunted again.
Don't say that!
Which is now the cure, now hopefully this is the cure.
It's crazy that it was headache, and I was dizzy,
there was a lot going on, it was crazy.
Also, if I was possessed, I bet you even my possessed body
wouldn't wanna go up those stairs at Georgetown.
Fuck this.
You're like eating Morphe soup.
But he even just goes to hell. He just gives up. I was up in Toronto. I was dealing with some stuff.
So Jono and I met through Haley Joel Osment. Yes.
He put us together on a text chain.
He said, my buddy Jono here, he's going up to Canada.
I just want to say that I just completely,
the first, I even realized that this was crazy at the time,
but I didn't even know Jono.
And I was like, Toronto fucking sucks.
Like,
It was his first text message to me.
It's like, hey man, nice to meet you. Just so you know, Toronto fucking sucks like this first text message to me
Hey, man, nice to meet you. Just so you know Toronto fucking sucks. I was like great to meet you, too
Can't wait to see you this weekend immediately got the real Mitch
Yeah, that's I think I think you were in a bad like you warmed up to Toronto But at first you were pretty sour on the city because I think you were having a tough time
I was having a tough time. I think we had a good time.
We had a great time.
Yeah, but he followed what I was saying.
Honestly, usually I'm a very positive guy.
Without, with not with you, I'm pretty positive.
I don't know.
Is that, is your experience with Mitch,
are these pretty positive?
I mean, apart from his, you know, his own feelings about his own acting,
the locations we had to shoot at,
some of the food we had to eat.
Yeah, he's a pretty positive guy.
A lot of movies and TV.
A lot of movies and TV, yeah.
I'm critical in a way.
I'm critical of my own acting.
Most people, yeah, sure. You do do a lot of self and TV, yay. I'm critical in a way. I'm critical of my own acting. Most people, yeah, sure.
Yeah.
You do do a lot of self criticism,
but you were up in Toronto, you did have a nice time.
I had some lovely food,
and the brief time I was up there
when we were doing Toronto.
We talked to Jon for about five seconds
the night of the show.
We didn't have a lot of time to connect.
It was a busy night.
Yeah, we didn't have a lot of time to connect.
But you, but, but.
You kind of did just, you know, you kind of wandered away.
I said, wait, though, hold on, hold on a second.
He's trying to say that you big-timed me.
Not big time.
He didn't big time.
It's impossible for him to big time you.
He, he, he, he, he, I was like,
twisted metal crew was here, you're like, hello everyone.
And then you kind of just-
It was Mitch, it was literally like 18 people.
A lot of people.
18 people I was meeting for the first time. Yeah. And so it was like a lot of like, oh,, and then you kind of just went up the stairs to your castle. It was literally like 18 people. A lot of people.
18 people I was meeting for the first time.
Yeah.
And so it was like a lot of like,
oh, hey, how's it going?
Hey, nice to meet you.
And I also was like in the middle of like
eating my post-show meal.
So like there was a little bit of that too.
I want you to impress every one of those people.
Take out your mouth thing, put it in, show them.
Hi, I'm Weigar, check this out.
I'm Weigar.
I'm Weigar.
I'm Weigar.
Cool.
Mitch is my friend. I'm Weigar. I'm Weigar. I'm Weigar. Cool. I'm Weigar.
Mitch is my friend.
I'm Weigar.
I'm Weigar.
My live show was great.
I had a blast.
Thank you so much for watching.
Yeah, it was so fun.
I was very happy to.
We did have a nice conversation.
I remember telling you, Mitch,
I was like, oh, John is such a great guy.
Annalisa was there as well.
Yes, she was.
Oh, wow, that's awesome.
Oh, did you?
You didn't remember, you don't remember her.
I don't remember her.
No, okay.
Did I meet Annalisa?
Yeah.
Oh, okay. I think so. Maybe you didn't. Maybe I didn't remember her. No, okay. Did I meet Anna-Lisa? Yeah. Oh, okay.
I think so.
Maybe you didn't.
Maybe I didn't.
No, we'll say you didn't.
I'll say we didn't.
You'll have her on the podcast.
Yeah, we will for sure.
Exactly, 100%.
I'm trying to think of other big names.
Anyway, you were up in Toronto.
You had a good time.
I had a blast.
You had some great food,
and I had some great food in the limited time
I was in the city.
Any food memories of Toronto?
I mean, I know that you've already talked
about Lee Restaurant several times.
It was great.
Loved Lee.
I got a long name.
John Jacob Jingleheimer-Smith.
I got one, I got one.
Do you remember this?
Ricky Tiki Tempo, No Sirembo,
Charlie Piperi Pembo.
Yeah, I do.
I'm amazed you could recite the whole thing.
I do remember that, I had that book.
Love that book. Yeah, good book. It's actually a could- Do you remember that? Reset the whole thing. I do remember that.
I had that book.
Love that book.
Yeah, good book.
It's actually a pretty messed up book.
I don't remember what happens in it.
It's basically two brothers go to a well
and one of the kids falls in and the other kid,
the Ricky Tiki Tembo goes in.
And so the kid goes back to his mom and he's like,
"'Mom, Ricky Tiki Tembo, No Sa Rembo, Chari Rairuchi,
Pit, Barry, Pemba just fell down the well."
And she's like, she doesn't care.
Yeah.
That is fucked up.
Also, us saying Pazuzu and you saying that
makes me feel like there's big curse energy
in here right now.
Riki Tiki Tembo, I can't even do it.
I don't know what it is.
Yeah.
How do you, did you audition for the Riki Tiki Tembo movie?
How did you do that?
I think we read the book a lot when I was a little kid.
And I always thought it was a melodic name.
I was a Goosebumps boy.
Loved Goosebumps.
I was in a Goosebumps fan club
in the basement of a bookstore.
That's fun.
Oh, that is fun.
A little creepy.
Creepy, yeah.
You had your own little
are you afraid of the dark situation going on.
It kind of was.
And an adult was there, but you know.
I join it now.
Hey buddy. check my mouth.
Errol Stein is, this is good stuff.
I saw him at a, I saw him at New York Comic-Con
where the birthday boys were there.
Wow.
Okay, so you had Lee Restaurant.
Any other favorites come to mind?
Lee Restaurant, there was an Asian restaurant
we went to, do you remember that place?
Yes.
We had like a 10 course meal or something.
That place was so good.
And we were eating and it was like us
at the end of the table and then a couple other guys,
but mostly girls and we were like,
both of us were kind of holding back
on the first couple dishes.
Because we're like, we don't want to just eat everything
and leave nothing for anybody else.
But then there was like too much food.
There was too much food.
We just gotta go for it.
And why?
Because it was like the perfect,
we were kind of heroes in a way.
Yeah, because we really cleaned up.
We cleaned up.
The closer, as I call it, in a meal.
I used to call my sister the closer, she got mad at me.
But like, if you come in and you close out a meal,
sometimes people are like, yeah, that's good,
it's a good thing.
Emma, do you remember the name
of the Filipino restaurant Mars took us to?
I can't remember the name of it.
It's trying to walk us.
Tanuno.
Tanuno, yes, thank you, Tanuno.
But Tanuno was like a,
that was another communal dining experience,
so there's just like so much food. Yeah.
And I did at a certain point feel challenged.
We didn't finish everything,
but we did have leftovers.
No, we're fine.
We could have a?
We could shout it out.
It was good.
And we-
You reach a certain point where you're just like,
ah, here we go, you know?
And you're just like picking up pieces of food
to just try to clear the table off.
We probably went to Hemingway's the most of any place,
which is just a fine, a fine little-
Just a pub.
A pub.
But that's important to have.
Like you kind of have your home base.
This place will get the job done, you know?
Mimi Chinese, am I-
You found that very quickly.
That was impressive.
Yeah.
Pfft.
It was impressive.
Thank you.
Ho ho hunk.
Oh, so to finish that story,
I had to ask Dutton.
Ugh.
Instead. Pfft. Is it? to ask Dutton. Ugh. It's dead.
Yeah.
Is it, wait, Dutton's doing it?
Dutton's doing it, yeah.
Oh, there you go.
I mean, I love Dutts.
And Dutton is doing it.
I mean, I now feel bad.
He said to me, he said, he said,
I'm not the type of guy who to do this.
You gotta get Stanger or something.
You're gonna play, you're a cunk, come on.
You're, you know, like, he's, he's, it will work, great.
Yeah, Dutton's hunky.
Yeah, he's hunky, it will be great.
He's gonna have a beard on, it's gonna be fine.
It will be great.
Yeah, but I mean, you heard the read.
Yeah, now you've told everyone
that Dutton was your second choice
after he publicly did you a favor.
He didn't even want the role, he's doing it,
it's a nice gesture. He's helping me out, he's a good's doing it. It's a nice gesture.
He's helping me out. He's a good guy.
Yeah, he's a great guy.
I love the guy.
He's cool as hell.
Okay, so I also read that you were a, you're something of a Lynxman.
You've golfed.
Yes, I love to...
Do you continue to golf?
Oh yeah.
Okay, so I'm not a golfer.
Are you sad? But you're a Lynxman.
You love Lynx from Legend of Zelda.
I thought you were going to say Sausage Lynx. Oh, that's also true. We're both Lynxmen. We're both Lynx, you love Link from Legend of Zelda. I thought you were gonna say Sausage Links.
Oh, that's also true.
We're both linksmen.
We're both linksmen.
We're all three of us.
All three of us.
Are you a Zelda person though?
I'm not a Zelda person.
I never got into Zelda.
I was Super Mario Brothers and moved on to Crash Bandicoot.
Oh, hell yeah.
Oh, a PlayStation guy.
PlayStation guy.
Twisted Metal.
Twisted Metal.
Are you a PlayStation guy now?
Do you have a PS5? I have a PS4.
A PS4, okay.
And I got it because I was in NBA 2K.
Oh, right.
18, I think, as the coach.
Oh, wow.
So all the cutaway fees.
I'm like Steve Kerr.
That's awesome.
That's crazy.
You just did all the motion capture for the coach models?
Yeah.
That's amazing.
Yeah, we're just in a huge stage. all the motion capture for the coach models? Yeah, it was fantastic. That's amazing.
Yeah, we're just in a huge stage.
You know, you're just wearing like a skin tight black suit
and you have all the dots on you and everything.
Yeah.
And it was me and Michael B. Jordan.
Wow.
That's wild.
Yeah, that is really wild.
So if you see like Eric Spolstra
like complaining about a bad call,
like that's you acting that out.
That's amazing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
That is crazy. How long did it take to film?
Just like three weeks.
Wow.
Yeah.
That's extensive.
Yeah.
Cause they had a lot of cutaway scenes,
but in that one, it looks like me.
It just looks like a weird version of me, you know?
Yeah.
And they like tried to put some comedy stuff in there too.
I would just improvise some stuff,
but it was very easy to shoot because the, you know, the sound is right there, the audio is right there for you
and it's capturing every movement of your face
and everything and there's nothing on the floor.
So it's very easy.
Wow. That's wild.
Yeah. He's fascinated by this.
No, I love this.
I mean, have you done other video game acting?
No.
Wow. What was it?
That's so cool though.
He has a video game podcast.
I do, but I'm more interested for the basketball side
as an NBA fan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
As an enthusiast.
Wait, are you an NBA fan?
Not really.
Mitch and I are both pretty good basketball players.
You don't like the Celtics?
I like the Celtics, but I watch the playoffs.
That's fair.
That's totally fine.
I watch the fucking-
I'm pretty pissed off.
I have a problem with sports that just have too many games in a season.
The NBA has too many games.
It needs to mean more.
Yes, I agree. The NBA has too many games. They will never go back on the 82-game season.
Now they've added an extra game because they have the championship for the in-season tournament.
They're going to do that because there's too much game ready.
They need guys that have to rest for... Come on.
Yeah, exactly. It's too many games and I watched horrible,
regular season basketball last night
and it just felt like a huge waste of time.
And why was I doing this?
Thumbs down to the in-season tournament.
Thumbs down.
It's kind of fun.
It's stupid.
It's kind of fun because it makes something
out of the otherwise pointless regular season games.
What is it, the United Emirates Cup?
Is it, what is it?
It's just the Emirates Cup.
Emirates Cup.
It's for the airline, not the nation.
Oh, okay. Yeah, Emirates Cup? Is it? What is it? It's just the Emirates Cup. It's for the airline, not the nation.
Oh, okay.
Oh.
Emirates NBA Cup.
Good.
Emirates.
Okay, wait, so you're a linksman,
not in the Zelda sense.
But you like-
Golf sense.
In the golf sense.
Yeah.
My understanding, I'm not a golfer,
but my understanding is that a big part of it
is like the clubhouse.
You're gonna have like drinks or a meal there.
The 19th hole, as they call it.
Yeah, the 19th hole.
The 19th hole. Are you someone who indulges in that?
Sometimes.
Sometimes, sometimes.
What the hell is this?
What do you do at the 19th hole?
You have a beer.
You're a fucking alien that doesn't know anything about,
there's a golf club,
sometimes you have drinks and imbibe in there.
What the fuck are you talking about?
I didn't say imbibe.
Well, I was just trying to think of.
He's doing an impression.
I'm trying to do some fucking impression of you.
Yeah, an exaggerated impression.
Some fucking shit word you'd say.
You've never been in a club?
No, I've never been to a clubhouse.
Have you? Wow.
I have, which makes me feel like people are calling me
the silver spoon man.
My dad got into golf in his, honestly, like in his 50s,
40s, 50s.
Yeah, I think if my dad was a golfer,
I probably would have.
My grandpa golfed, but I was the age
to never lined up where I was out of the course with him.
Well, my dad was a caddy growing up.
Oh, wow.
And then he grew up in Worcester, Massachusetts.
And then he was like, when he was a little kid,
he was like, someday I'm gonna be a member here.
And then he became a member
when he was like 35 or something.
Wow.
I never go to play at that course.
That's cool.
So I'm a silver spoon boy.
I never go to a, what happened?
Jesus.
Who's breaking in?
Yeah.
This is, you know, you know.
I know this, I know this.
He knows this.
Yeah.
Which he had no problem with,
Weiger had it and it was a big deal to Weiger.
It was fine.
It was totally fine.
I was just confused as to why you didn't mute it, but I understand.
Because it's still going.
It's really going crazy.
Explain what's going on here.
Your phone just went off during recording.
A couple leaves going across the house?
No, my house is not being robbed.
There's someone walked by, but it rarely catches those people walking by.
Those people are just walking too close to the fence.
They're walking too close to the fence or something like that.
I was going to say, your dad's from Worcester.
I never go there too much anymore just because
I don't know if you the guy who works at Toebooth is such a fucking pain in the ass. Yeah. What's
he say when you go in there? He says, welcome to Worcester. That will be a dollar. Ninety
four. A dollar. Ninety five. That's right. Yeah. Toebooth Willie Wags. Wait, do it to
remind me what this is. Oh my God. You don't know it. Sandler. Oh, Sandler. Okay. Yeah. Toebooth Willie Wigs. Wait, remind me what this is.
Oh my God, you don't know it?
Sandler.
Oh, Sandler, okay, okay.
Welcome to Worcester.
And then everyone's like,
you really like you small dick piece of shit like that.
They always like make fun of him.
Yeah, yeah.
He didn't, he has no,
I guess that maybe,
did that just stick in Boston people's head more?
It may have been more of a Boston thing.
Probably, but I feel like,
I feel like if I brought up-
Everyone knows it, right?
Okay, so you know Toebooth Willie? I don't think I know Toebooth Willie. If I brought up Worc more probably but I feel like I I feel like if I brought up. Everyone knows it right? Okay so you know
Toe Booth Willie? I don't think I know Toe Booth Willie. If I brought up. Now I
feel insane. No I've had times where people will say welcome to Worcester
every time I say you know my parents are from Worcester. My sister went to
Assumption which is in Worcester. Oh yeah. I took my French class at Assumption my
senior year in high school humble brag. Wow. Humble brag?
Me and one other guy.
Our friend Harris created that word.
Our, our.
That's the truth.
Harris Wibbles, yeah.
That is, look, I get a little humble brag myself saying that.
Wow, yeah.
Wow.
Do you have a humble brag for us?
Let's see, do I have a humble brag?
I have one of the biggest mouths in the world
or wherever they are.
Yeah, I guess that's what I'm talking about.
Humble brag, it's just a brag.
That's what I'm talking about, humble brag.
Yeah, that's the whole thing humble brag, that's just a brag. That's a humble brag.
Yeah, that's the whole thing is that the line got sort of,
the line got hazy between what is a brag
and what is a humble brag.
What is the where I'm falsely,
Yeah, it's like,
Yeah.
Actually, mine was just a straight up brag.
Exactly, it was just a brag.
I wasn't humble about it.
It was like all humility.
A humble brag would be like,
oh, I got into the final two
for the audition for this movie,
but it went so bad.
Like that's like, that's the sort of level of.
Emmy losing writer.
Yeah, yes, yes.
Yeah, whatever the fuck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that sucks.
Ugh, my mouth's so big,
the stretching appliance won't work on me.
Wait, so wait, You're proud of that?
He's humble about it.
This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Mitch, what do you want your 2025 story to be?
I think I want it to be an action story. I want my.
Well, that's not what I want for my 2025 story. I want my 2025 story to be a, a story of self
discovery and self reflection.
And each January brings you 365 blank pages
waiting to be filled, 366 in a leap year.
Wow.
In there and back again, a Nick Weiger story.
Hmm. In 2025, maybe you're ready for a plot twist, or maybe
there's a part of your story you've been waning to revise.
Life isn't about resolutions that fade by February.
It's about picking up the pen and becoming
the author of your own life.
Think of therapy as your editorial partner helping
you write new chapters and create the meaningful story
you deserve to live.
Mitch, you and I have both benefited from therapy, as have many of our loved ones. partner, helping you write new chapters and create the meaningful story you deserve to live.
Mitch, you and I have both benefited from therapy as have many of our loved ones.
Hey, get back in there.
I'm in there.
Me too.
You get back in there.
Maybe I, maybe I will.
I like, I told you it's, it's like going to
the gym wags, I got to get back in there too.
Yeah.
It's, it's getting the gunk out.
It's helpful for learning positive coping skills and how to set boundaries. It empowers you to the gym, Wags. I gotta get back in there too. It's getting the gunk out. It's helpful for learning positive coping skills
now to set boundaries.
It empowers you to be the best version of yourself.
And it isn't just for those
who've experienced major trauma.
BetterHelp is fully online,
making therapy affordable and convenient,
serving over 5 million people worldwide.
Access a diverse network
of more than 30,000 credentialed therapists
with a wide range of specialties.
Easily switch therapists anytime at no extra cost.
Write your story with BetterHelp.
Visit BetterHelp.com slash doughboys today to get 10% off your first month.
That's BetterHelpHELP.com slash doughboys.
Do it.
I'll say this also about Harris Whittles, and I don't know if this is a great time to segue.
The first time I ever saw the Detroit style
or deep dish Little Caesar pizza was,
I don't know if it's different from Detroit style,
because this was years ago.
Yeah.
Was at Harris's house.
And he was like, I was like, you got that?
He's like, yeah, it looked good.
And I was like, I thought it looked good too.
Was it from Little Caesar's?
It was from Little Caesar's.
This was definitely not the Detroit style
because that's new.
This was their old, their old deep, deep dish pizza.
And then they refurbished it slash rebranded it
as Detroit style.
The chain is from Detroit,
but that's a thing that's happened
since our most recent record
of when we did Little Caesars in 2021.
Don't kill me here.
Is Detroit style pizza like a known,
like I've heard Chicago style.
It is a known thing, but it was not, I don't think a nationally known thing until relatively recently.
Until Little Caesars.
It's been a thing that's existed. I mean, the Buddies and Jets, like, you know, there are these Detroit institutions that have served the style of pizza for many, many years.
It's very similar to what this was, except usually there's middle pieces and it's not two separate kind of pizzas or whatever.
And you know, I like this pizza, but it's better than that.
Doesn't seem like you like it.
You left that piece untouched for 40 minutes.
Little Caesars was founded in 1959 in the suburb of Detroit.
It is the third largest pizza chain in the US,
reviewed twice previously, most recently in 2021,
as I mentioned with Dave Neer and Marissa Pinson,
our good buddies, and our guest, Mitch,
kicked it out of the Golden Plate Club.
It was in there.
You and I voted to re-op it, but it got ejected.
Wait, who kicked it out?
Neer and Pinson.
What the hell were you two doing?
What were you thinking?
I'm mad at them now, too.
They kicked it out of there?
Well, now I'm putting too much weight on our guests.
We'll see.
No, I want our guests to be candid and honest,
and I trust that he will be.
Since our last record,
they have debuted the Detroit style pizza.
As currently- As he swigs his Celsius.
Have crazy puffs, which we will talk about.
But Jono, this, like the headgum hunks,
was your maiden voyage with Little Caesars.
Yes, it was.
You'd never had it before.
What's your pizza preferences in general?
Well, you know, I think in college, I was a Domino's boy.
Yeah, sure. Sure.
Right?
Loved Domino's, kind of grew out of the Domino's.
Wow.
Then in LA, I really, when I lived in West Hollywood,
I went to Ghost Pizza a lot.
You ever been there?
No, scary.
I don't know Ghost Pizza.
This is a cursed episode.
This is a cursed episode.
This is a cursed episode.
This is a cursed episode.
It's a cursed show.
And now I'm real high on Prince Street Pizza.
Yeah.
We have to, we have to, we have to,
we have to, we have to do it at Prince Street.
We almost, you suggested it, but look,
it's a complicated thing.
We can't get into it too much.
Yeah.
I'm gonna get into it.
Susser went to the Prince Street location
up in North Hollywood.
Yes.
And the guy that works there is a fan of the pod.
Right.
He wants us to take a picture and put our picture on the wall. Okay. Now the Doughboys can't be bought. here is a fan of the pod. Right. He wants us to take a picture
and put our picture on the wall.
Okay.
Now the Doughboys can't be bought.
This is a tricky thing.
Right, Doughboys can't be bought,
but I do kind of want my picture on the wall
of a pizza place.
A picture on the wall of a pizza place is pretty awesome.
It's amazing.
So.
Our buddy Ryan Perez, by the way,
a good buddy Ryan Perez of the Mama Needs a Movie podcast,
is a, also had the same experience at Prince Street
and was like recognized by virtue
of a connection to Doughboys.
Every time I walk in there,
I hope that someone's gonna say,
can we get your picture on the wall?
But nobody knows who I am.
May happen now.
It might happen now, I mean.
We'll see.
We'll see what happens.
Fingers crossed.
It ends up just being Jono on the wall.
They don't want the Doughboys anymore.
We put the Doughboys picture on the wall,
but a lot of customers left when the game was on.
We have Jono and then the doughboys
and it's before and after.
So you've never had it, you like Prince Street,
but there is a Canadian chain that is relevant to this,
which is Pizza Pizza.
Now Pizza Pizza is unrelated to little
Cesar's little Cesar's has the slogan pizza pizza, which they cannot use in Canada because it's trademark there
Did you have pizza pizza while you're up there? I did not Mitch. Did you have pizza pizza up there?
I did yeah, it was on set one night where you're not there when we were in that and we were in the I
Can't I probably can't even say we were in Hamilton. I'll say maybe
We were in the location in Hamilton.
No, I remember when they brought the fast food there,
but I don't remember the pizza.
I think they brought the pizza
and I had just stuffed my face with crafties,
so I wasn't hungry or something.
It didn't look like it was worth it to me, honestly.
I understand that.
It was like, it reminded me of old school Domino's
before they changed their recipe,
which I kind of liked.
It was maybe not worth it.
A&W was the fast food that they brought that day.
Yes, that was good.
That actually really hit the spot.
Oh man, that's my favorite.
And we had great pizza out there.
Yeah.
We did, and Hamilton specifically.
Cowabunga Pizza in Hamilton.
A lot of fun, great name for a pizza place.
There was a couple other places in Hamilton
that were really good, but then North of Brooklyn,
that was one of our first-
That was like our first-
Friend date. Friend date.
Friend date, yeah.
How fun is that?
Do you remember what you got?
We got the one like bee sting or whatever, right?
Yeah, that had like honey on it.
Yeah.
Which I know has gotten a little played out,
the honey on the pizza, the hot honey, but I like it.
Me too.
I still like it.
Me too.
And it was below this bar and they were doing a drag show
and we went upstairs and we were like,
can we just eat in the back?
And so like there's this drag show going on, like two guys just like eating slices. It
was great. It was great.
Drag show and then they're like, yeah, you can eat here. And I went up and I ordered
us like two sodas and they're like, Jesus Christ, six dollars. There's seven for you.
The guy at the front was like, we're like, can we eat in here? And the guy're like, there's seven for you. The guy at the front was like, can we eat in here?
And the guy was like, yeah, you just got to buy a drink.
And then we got some sodas.
It was great. It was a great day.
I don't think they were upset with us.
It was fine.
There was nobody sitting at those two tables that we took up.
So we had, so Amelia hopped into the studio.
We had a, there was a little bit of an ordeal
picking up our group order.
So I went on my own for lunch earlier this week
cause I just didn't want to overindulge
before we recorded.
I know, but I ended up just eating like,
I think as much Little Caesars as you guys did.
So jokes on me, but Amelia, you picked it up.
There was a little bit of a kerfluffle.
What happened?
I went to the wrong location.
Now, how did this happen?
When I was ordering it online,
I pressed the Vermont location.
Little did I know there were two Vermont locations.
Two Vermont locations.
Now, so you go to the wrong one.
Do you go there and like,
how long does it take you to figure out what happened?
The woman at the register, she was like,
that'll be $7.59, and I was like, I already paid online,
and this order is way more than $7.
It was like 50, 50, 50.
I think, yeah, the order was under someone's name
that sounded similar to Amelia.
And the woman seemed like she dealt with this constantly.
She was like, you probably ordered
to the other Vermont location.
This happens a lot.
So I checked and lo and behold, wrong location.
Was the other one further away from the-
It was further away, but only by five minutes.
And it really wasn't a big deal.
They're pretty close.
Those two Vermont ones.
So we had the same thing happen,
I was telling you previously, with the Doughboyz Podcast.
This was a little,
I think this was actually maybe a tournament episode
when we did Little Caesars.
With Gemberling?
Yeah, with Gemberling for the slices right,
back for Much Madness.
And what happened is, I think you placed the order.
Yeah.
I could be wrong about this,
but I remember that you placed the order
and you said it was on the Vermont location.
I went to the Vermont location,
it was the wrong Vermont location, I went to the Vermont location,
it was the wrong Vermont location,
and eventually figured it out,
went to the other Vermont location and picked it up,
brought it there, was telling this on the episode,
and then you got mad at me
because you thought I was blaming you for this
when I was just trying to be like,
hey, this was like a funny anecdote.
So I think everything ended up working out, but-
It sounds like it was your fault.
Well, again, all the information I had was Vermont location.
And the name.
And the name, and the name, Emma, thank you for reminding,
which the order was under Mario,
because he thought it was funny.
Was I wrong?
It was funny.
It is funny.
It's funny, it's funny, it's very funny.
But I could see how that maybe would confuse things.
I like that you had to go into a multiple place and be like, it's me, Mario.
It worked out.
It worked out.
But yeah, this is a known issue
with the LA loyal Caesars.
There's two of them on the same street.
Yeah, they must have to deal with it constantly.
I'm sure they do.
I feel like it's like California Chicken Cafe or something that says like, make sure you're
picking it up from the right address.
Oh yeah.
Smart.
How are they not doing that?
Yeah, with everyone on the same street.
Yeah, they really should have that warning.
Here's what I'll say.
You know how you say, everyone is here.
You know how you say that?
Everyone is here.
Everyone is late today and we were all late.
Everyone was late. Not me. Not John we were all late. Everyone was late.
Not me.
Not Jono.
Jono was right on time.
Casey was on time.
Casey was on time.
Casey and I were hanging out here talking shit.
And you knew.
Everyone.
I literally texted Casey and I said,
we're in true Doughboy's fashion all running late.
If Jono beats us there, can you let him in?
I said, very chill guy, should be good.
And he found out I wasn't.
What kind of operation is this?
I came in here and I was like, sorry,
because I was the first of the late's, to be clear.
Yeah, it's true.
Of the late's.
First of the late's.
And I walked in, I was like, oh, you're here.
And he went, yeah, because I'm a professional.
That's what he said when I walked in.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
It was Jones in for some Little Caesars.
Ha ha ha ha.
Well, we certainly got some Little Caesars.
Oh, we got some Little Caesars.
Before the hunks took it.
I will say, did you order on the app?
What did you use, Amelia?
I used their online website.
OK, because I use the app.
And I do like the way.
I just like thinking of the hunks right now being like
See a brown thing in the toilet
So I do like the app the apps not crap
I think the app is pretty elegant and and pretty straightforward to use
The app's not crap. I think the app is pretty elegant
and pretty straightforward to use.
The pizza portal, which is the pickup apparatus,
I feel like that is cumbersome and unnecessary.
Did you use the pizza portal or did you just hand it,
they just hand it to you?
I didn't use the pizza portal.
The location I went to is the pizza portal,
which is like an Amazon locker for pizza.
Mitch is stretching his mouth out for audio listeners.
It's like an Amazon locker.
What's that? Oh yeah, what's that like it helps stretch your jaw so it doesn't go out of
place this is the gentle jaw you've never seen one of these
turns out why Gary's job is the biggest mouth in North America this is the biggest
side he is a bigger mouth than 99% of human beings in the on the earth
I'm in the top 1% of mouth sizes. No wonder I can self-suff
Thumbs up Amelia, that's two that's two references
We're gonna get a third. Maybe didn't even know but now you now you always know
legend has
Pizza portal is like an Amazon locker.
Oh, he's really barreling through it.
With pizzas in there.
Just move forward.
You have to scan a QR code from your order
and then it like automatically opens
and I was like talking through it
with the guy who was super duper nice.
Is this in a store though?
This is in the store, so there's a guy there
and he's like, oh. Is it heated?
He's like, yeah, it's like heated.
He's like, I could just hand it to you
but it's like harder for me to get it. Like it was like the way it was set up. So I was like, okay's like, yeah, it's like heated. He's like, I could just hand it to you, but it's like harder for me to get it.
Like it was like the way it was set up.
So I was like, okay, I'll just scan it.
And then it opens up, I take my thing out.
But he's still like, but I have to get your sauces
because your sauces are still separate.
So we still had to fulfill that part of the order
just for normal.
It just felt like an extra step for no real reason.
So everything is ready there.
Everything is just say, they're just like,
we know people are gonna want pepperoni pizzas.
So we have 10 pepperoni pizzas. No, this is not the hot and ready situation, which they do have. They do have hot and you say, they're just like, we know people are gonna want pepperoni pizzas, so we have 10 pepperoni pizzas.
No, this is not the hot and ready situation,
which they do have.
They do have hot and ready pizzas,
which are just prefab pizzas,
which you can just grab and go.
Those used to be $5 or a little bit more expensive now.
This is still something that was made to order,
but then they made it to order,
and then they kind of shoved that son of a bitch
in the Amazon locker for pizza, the pizza portal,
and then it was just idling there
for someone to come in and pick it up.
Presumably contactless, but there actually
was still contactless.
But you've ordered that sun bitch.
I've already ordered it before, yeah.
You ordered that sun bitch before you ordered it.
I ordered that bad boy before I got in there, yeah.
He changed to bad boy?
Yeah, I thought he was gonna roll that sun bitch.
He was trying to make it work with you.
Yeah, we needed the third.
We needed the third sun bitch.
Sun bitch, yeah, he ordered that sun bitch.
I think that it would be hard for me
to not walk through the pizza portal. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It's basically just like a heater, right? It's like 200 degrees or something.
It's just a heater, but it's one of those useless-
They can put the cups in there.
The cups are cold.
It's one of those useless technology things, I feel like.
It's just like, why do we have this extra step here when-
We have this cool thing that nobody uses
or wants to use or doesn't work either.
It's a pain in the ass for the consumers
and for the people who work there, but whatever.
Do you ever, you got like Beetlejuice mouth, by the way. You know how like they open, you know what I mean?
Like, and the Beetlejuice-
What do you mean?
Oh, cause they open super-
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
You really do, I mean, I've always said it,
but you got quite the-
I get a big mouth, yeah.
I think it's a cool thing.
I think it is cool too, it is.
There used to be a Ghostbusters toy
where the guy's mouth opened really big.
I remember that, I had that.
It was a fucking good one.
Yeah, that was a good one.
That was cool.
Like the jaw dropped out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty freaky. And then you got to put a little piece in there. It was a fucking good one. Yeah, that was a good one. That was cool. It like, the jaw dropped out.
Yeah, yeah.
It was pretty freaky.
And then you got to put a little piece in there.
There was a little, yeah.
And then he said, I'm the one percent.
Do you ever microwave, like I'll do this, is like you'll get like a plastic container,
and then I'll just put it in the microwave and microwave it and I'm like,
I probably shouldn't do that.
It's probably not a good idea.
Oh, all the time.
Yeah, I know.
It's bad though, right?
But like-
Every time it happens, I ask and I do this.
Yeah.
And whoever I'm with says yes,
and then I do it and I feel horrible.
Yeah.
It is just like, especially a plastic lid or something,
that happens.
Like if I get Chipotle and I get a size of cheese sauce
and it comes, it has a whatever container,
like a cardboard container with the plastic thing on top
and then you microwave it and the plastic gets big
and you're like, this is-
It's wrong.
It's wrong, I shouldn't be eating this food.
That's it, like I should stop doing that.
I heard that we eat like the equivalent
of a credit card in plastic every week.
I can totally see that.
Plastic in our food. That's horrifying, yeah.
Every week. Yeah.
So just get over it.
I've also, yeah.
It's happening and there's nothing to stop it.
That's the other thing I read was that there's an issue
because a lot of human waste sometimes gets turned
into fertilizer.
And so what's happened is that because we eat
so much plastic, we're shitting out microplastics and then that gets absorbed into fertilizer and so what's happened is that because we eat so much plastic,
we're shitting out microplastics
and then that gets absorbed into fertilizer
which becomes part of the food supply.
So it's like a self-perpetuating thing.
Plastic plants are growing?
Yeah, it's gonna be, look, here's the thing.
Casey, you're Cronenberg guy, crimes of the future,
people evolved to start eating plastic
and have developed new organs.
Why aren't we're fucking headed there?
It's gonna happen.
That's fine.
That's fine.
Speaking of Little Caesars.
Service was great.
The guy noticed my marinara.
Speaking of things that he had to worry about,
the microwave wasn't sealed and he fixed it
and got me a new one because he knew it was gonna spill.
So we got the crazy puffs they have right now.
So how would you describe these?
They're kind of like little...
Cupcakes. Little pizza cupcakes. Little pies. Yeah would you describe these? They're kind of like little- Cupcakes.
Little cup, pizza cupcakes.
Pizza cupcakes, not pies.
Perfect. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're little pizza cupcakes.
And so we got the cheese and herb and the pepperoni.
I thought they were delightful little bites.
Not a thing I would necessarily get,
like because outside of the novelty of it,
but they were, they're just kind of fun.
Just, oh, okay.
I think they're, I think they are fun,
but I don't know if I would get them
outside of the novelty either.
I know that one of our one of the people in the the dais over here
One of them one of them one of them liked it
Well, maybe multiple I heard one of you I heard one of you really say that you liked it
I didn't know if you want to be involved with the show.
It seemed like you were shaming him.
No!
I'm happy for him.
Casey, I liked them too.
I liked them too.
There was the first one that I had,
had a little cherry tomato situation with it
where I bit into it and the tomato sauce came out,
but it wasn't too hot.
Yeah.
And I enjoyed that.
It was a little surprise that I enjoyed.
Yeah, because there is like the filling
of like a Hostess cupcake.
There is a tomato load in there.
Yes, yeah, yeah.
So you liked it, Casey.
I like it because it's like three or four bites
and it's the edge of the pizza.
It's all edge. It's all edge.
And that's great.
Yeah, you've got a little crust.
You've got some crispy crust.
It feels like perfect for a party situation.
It's like my YouTube cover band. Crisp little crust. You've got some crispy crust. It feels like perfect for a party situation. It's like my U2 cover band.
Crispy crust?
All edge.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it doesn't by default come with the crazy sauce,
which is what they call the marinara.
U2 cover band.
I guess I should have said that's like,
that's how I prefer my U2 or something.
That would have made more sense.
No, yours was good.
No, it was good.
All right, all right, all right, that was good.
Yeah, we liked it.
It doesn't by default come with a crazy sauce.
I think it does need the crazy sauce
because it's a little bit of a dry guy,
even though again, it's got the marinara load inside there.
It's, you still need,
I feel like it needs a little bit on the outside.
I enjoy dipping it.
Is the crazy sauce their tomato sauce?
Yes. Yeah.
Okay. Yeah.
The, by the way, not all that crazy.
I didn't find it crazy at all.
I found it pretty normal.
I found it extremely sane.
Yeah.
If by crazy, the fact that it's kind of cold,
I guess that is crazy.
It is crazy that it comes cold out of the fridge.
It should be warm, though.
And then they give you a gallon of it.
They give you so much.
Put it in the hot and ready fucking oven,
or whatever the fuck it is.
The witch in the wardrobe.
Put it in there. Put it in the little Narnia closet, why not?
I did think the crazy puffs were fun.
The slices and sticks.
Crazy poofs.
Is that the pizza pizza guy?
Pizza, pizza.
Hey, that was pretty good.
That wasn't bad, man.
That was pretty good.
Pizza, pizza.
Crazy poofs.
You son of a bitch.
The son of a bitch finding out he can do a good impression
of the pizza pizza, a little Caesar man.
I was doing Cartman.
Yeah.
Cheesy poofs now, crazy poofs.
That's what I was, that was my.
That was good, that was good.
That was good.
Wait, have they always called the marinara crazy sauce
or whatever, is it only because the crazy poofs
are a thing now?
No, I think they've done it before the...
I think it's always been crazy sauce.
Who's the marketing guy that was like...
Because they've had crazy bread for a while.
Who's the marketing guy that's like,
we gotta call this tomato sauce crazy sauce?
Yeah, I know.
What is so crazy about it?
They glommed onto crazy as part of their branding
like 20 years ago, and they just continue to run with it.
Crazy bread.
Crazy bread, yeah.
Is that little Caesar is a crazy man?
I guess, I don't know what it is.
Running around pizza pizza.
No one liked my impression.
Screw you guys, I'm going home.
A2 Brutade, pizza pizza.
You know what, this came up, I got made fun of for this,
but I always, there's Greek pizza on the East Coast.
Little Caesar's is kind of Greek style pizza.
I always thought of Little, I know it's supposed to be
like Caesar from Rome, but I always associate it with Greece.
I thought he was like a Grecon guy.
I know that this is dumb
He does have a little crown of leaves on it. Yeah
Which makes you I guess that's Roman. Roman culture was derived from Greek culture, you know
There's a lot of there's a line of continuity there. I never overlap
I never put together like Caesar like like Augustus Caesar or whoever the fuck it's supposed to like I never was like
I don't even know if that is Augustus. You's Augustus, you don't think it's Julius?
Oh, I guess Julius would be the right one.
Maybe it is Augustus, that would be crazy.
That would be crazy.
That would be crazy.
I think it's Julius.
Is it supposed to be Julius Caesar though,
or is it supposed to, like what is it supposed to be?
Is Augustus Caesar long enough to be a long name?
Feels like it's right on the precipice.
A big name. Big name. Big name on the precipice. A big name. A big name.
A big name.
A big name.
It's close.
It's close.
We need to, if we knew his middle name,
that would be a big name.
Yeah.
Now why?
You know what's a good one?
Victor Wemba Nyama.
That is a good one.
That is a good one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's an NBA player for me.
He's on the Spurs.
Yeah.
He's not in the UN?
He's not, he's not some UN fucking guy
that no one else knows.
Long name, Tall Man.
Oh, right.
I know, that's funny too, though.
His name.
The Greek Freak.
The Greek Freak, yeah.
That's the only one who wanna say it.
Yeah.
Yeah, I couldn't mean either.
This last week has been crazy for CEOs.
It has!
It's a very smooth transition.
Also like a month earlier when this episode comes out.
Look, this happened last night.
But we were talking about how great the Little Caesar CEO is.
Yeah, I don't know how far we wanna go,
but as CEOs go, a man who was held with some esteem,
I'm sure he has some flaws,
but is held with some esteem in his community,
the famously paid Rosa Parks' rent for the course of her life.
Who I have beef with.
Mm-hmm.
She took the seat from my great grandfather Aldous Mitchell on the front of the box.
Yeah, this is the whole thing.
Edit point.
Did he put up a fight? Did he argue with her a little bit?
Yeah, he was like, what are you, that's some icey.
Take that guy seat., yeah, yeah.
Take that guy's seat. That's mine.
Big fat guy with a hoagie sitting there, hoagie.
After I'm done with my sock.
Rest in peace Aldous Mitchell. great guy. Yeah, great guy.
Rest in peace.
Okay, so.
That was one bad day.
He was having one bad day.
That was one bad day.
He wanted to eat a sub sitting down on the bus.
He wanted to eat a sub.
So these slices and sticks jalapeno,
which is, it's half of this bad boy's pepperoni pizza.
Four slices of pepperoni pizza.
The other side is eight Italian cheese sticks
topped with jalapeno.
Now look, I'm a bit of a heat seeker.
So I was totally in favor of this.
Jono, you were saying those jalapeno sticks
might've been your favorite thing.
Wow.
I was saying that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Those are real good.
I'm a heat seeker too.
Never, never, never back to the show again.
I'm a heat seeker too.
And it just, I mean, I don't want to go too,
I might disappoint you guys right now,
but I feel like that was the thing that had the most taste to me. Yeah, I don't wanna go too, I might disappoint you guys right now, but I feel like that was the thing
that had the most taste to me.
Yeah, I can see that.
Sure.
Sure.
I mean, I think that the jalapenos added a lot of flavor.
That's the thing. A little flavor.
Give me some flavor.
And also because it's so cheesy,
and I don't think their crazy sauce
or their marinara sauce is necessarily a strength,
so something that just completely removes that
from the equation, yeah, it lets you focus on the good stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
I liked it, I liked the texture of it too.
I did too.
Yeah, I like, I think it's a fun,
I'll tell you where this is fun.
The cheese or the pizza and sticks combo
or whatever the hell it's called.
If you're like a guy, a solo guy, if you're a single man,
and you're just at your house and you're like,
I got half a pizza and I got some cheese sticks.
Like that's a perfect-
That is really fun.
It's pretty perfect.
Also you feel like that's the kind of thing,
cause I've gotten a whole hot and ready for myself before.
That feels like you're being a big fat guy,
cause I'm eating a whole pizza by myself.
Those pizzas are not,
They're not huge.
It's not a Prince Street pizza.
Right.
You can take one of those slices
and throw it down the chute.
Yeah, you can take that, but I'm saying that,
to Mitch's point, if you're a solo,
if you're an individual, if you're one person
just having a meal for yourself,
it feels a little bit less of an indulgence,
like you're being a big fat piece of shit
if you're getting half pizza, half sticks, you know?
It means psychologically, at least it probably does to me.
Yeah, the sticks are thinner
and you're eating it like a dainty person.
And you're eating two different things.
And I also feel better leaving a few sticks as like,
I'll always want another slice.
So if I only have four slices to begin with,
yeah, that's pretty good.
If you're getting a pizza for yourself,
we house some of that North of Brooklyn.
I feel like we ate both of those pies.
Yeah, we did.
Almost.
We did a good job.
There's like one or two slices left,
but North of Brooklyn,
because we ordered larges.
Yep.
Great, great spot.
What's that?
Was North of Brooklyn,
was it like a New York style pizza, I assume?
Yeah, New York style pizza.
Very good.
Yeah, y'all kept talking about
how good the pizza was up in Toronto.
I didn't get it happening.
Shocked.
Okay, so we also had the Detroit style,
which Mitch, you still have that slice of deep dish cheese
just sitting right there.
Sitting right in front of me.
Getting colder and colder.
So we got one with cheese.
There's a microwave.
Do you want me to heat it up?
I'm gonna put it on a plastic plate
and microwave it and it's gonna be fine.
Wait, you're not gonna have it on another episode?
You want me to have it on the app?
Why do you want it just sitting there the whole time?
I like it. You want us to make sure no one app? Why do you want it just sitting there the whole time? I like it.
You want us to make sure no one takes it.
It makes him feel safe.
It's his emotional support pizza.
There are no hunk-hawks walking around.
No shit.
Stealing it.
Okay, so we got the deep dish cheese for today.
And I on my own, when I went on my own,
got the cheese and herb crazy puffs, which I enjoyed.
And I also got a deep dish veggie.
The veggie is green peppers, onions, mushrooms, and black olives.
The things I will say, the thing I will say about the deep dish, and we mentioned this
earlier, there are no middle pieces.
It is four slices.
And if you get the normal size, like the large pizza, you just get two sets of four slices,
two squares, where it's all edges all the way around.
I kind of like it get all corner pieces.
I kinda like it.
I kinda like it.
People like the corners.
I mean, like for what that pizza is,
you do want like the crispy edges,
which honestly, the Detroit style
as opposed to the deep dish,
there was a little less crispy edge
than I wanted on this guy,
but still it was still pretty good.
By the way, you're like a day walker,
because you're a very funny,
but you can walk with the hunks.
You know what I mean?
Like a... Yeah, I get what you're saying. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a day... I but you can walk with the hunks. You know what I mean? Like, uh...
Yeah, I get what you're saying.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're a dead...
I feel like that's the highest compliment somebody could get.
I mean, it kind of is.
Wow.
Like, you can walk with the hunks, but then also you're not...
I'm out of here. That's not...
You're gonna go walk with the hunks?
I'm gonna go walk with the hunks.
You can walk with the hunks, but then you can come and sit
with fucking pieces of shit like Wags and I.
Yeah. Fitting great. Yeah, you guys are always talking about being
pieces of shit.
You're golden boys, that's who you are.
Come on now.
What a thing to say.
You know what?
You're fucking golden boys.
Oh, we're golden boys, Mitch.
Golden boys, like piss, gold?
I think like the golden girls that were old.
Yes.
The dough boys are golden boys.
I'm blanch, I'm horny.
Who's your favorite golden girl?
As I get older, Dorothy is the funniest.
Dorothy, I said Doris.
My favorite was the small angry one.
Was that Dorothy?
Yeah, Estelle.
Estelle Getty is the actor.
I always liked her.
Dorothy's mom, yeah.
Dorothy's mom.
Ma, but what is her, I forget her name.
Estelle Getty's actual name of the show.
Ma, that girl.
Because she's Sicilian on the show.
Right, yes.
Which is very funny.
She talks about the old country and shit like that.
There's nothing better than an old lady
who's still got some chutzpah.
Yeah.
It's the best.
That was my Nana.
My grandma was more, she wasn't,
Rose is dim-witted, which was Betty White.
Yeah.
Great sitcom, a great show.
I watched it with my grandma,
and my grandma reminded me of-
Sophia, she was Sophia.
Sophia, of course Sophia.
Think about that show being on now.
Never in a million years.
Never in a million years.
But this is a thing. People just miss out.
When I was younger, and I feel like I was like,
so much of the TV I watched and so many movies I saw,
cause this was also the era of Hume Cronin
and Jessica Tandy as like A-list movie stars,
is like, they would just have older actors
in like high profile roles.
And to me as a kid, I'm just watching this like,
loving like Leslie Nielsen thinking he's so funny.
You know what I mean?
And now that just doesn't happen
even though it's sort of casting.
It's like, it's kind of a bummer.
It is, yeah.
Because yeah, that was a great show
and then there was another show,
Empty Nest, that was on afterwards,
that was also like a senior sort of the cast.
Life goes on.
Yeah.
And so do we.
And so do we.
That's why we do is no mystery.
Rain or shine, I'll be the one.
Just like how we do it. It's something like that?
It's how we do it?
Yeah.
Rain or shine, I'll be the one.
You guys making this up right now.
Just how we do it.
No, this is...
No, this is Empty Nest, the sitcom.
Those are on after Golden Girls.
Golden Girls are time.
My grandma thought, also an older man who was the star of emptiness. She thought he was a hunk
Yeah, that'll murder. She wrote murder sure out. Oh my god. Give me a break. Yeah, I know I know she's solving murders
I know she's 70 years old
25 year old whippersnappers and what's her name?
What was her name in real life?
Oh God.
Angela Lansbury. Angela Lansbury.
Yeah, of course. RIP.
Well, they have, they do, you know,
cause they had Matlock that was also the show of the era.
Another old smart lawyer?
Right, yeah, they've rebranded Matlock.
I can't believe that.
Yeah, yeah, well,
Kathy Bates. Kathy Bates, yeah.
Indiana Jones meets Matlock, as we know.
Right, Indiana Jones meets Matlock was a we know. Right, Indiana Jones meets Matlock
was a big thing everyone was talking about last year.
It's the thing Mitch did on the show that no one understood.
What was it?
The idea is that it's just like an old guy thing.
It's like, because Indiana Jones is so old.
And I said, I was like, do you see the trailer for Indiana
Jones meets Matlock?
Everyone was confused.
At least.
Yeah.
Rightfully so, as you are now.
Kind of similar to what happened again, basically,
to you right now.
I think the deep dish is fucking good.
I really like the Detroit style.
And honestly, that may just become my go-to.
We seemed so fucking old when we sang the empty nest song.
I just looked at these three right here, just like.
Just staring at us, not getting what the fuck we were doing
It's like it's like reaction of the dais though, right? I mean that is normally how they act
The day is usually doesn't give us any laughs
but like you remember new like if you like went and visit your grandpa or something and then like he like he and his
Friend would sing an old song. You're like, oh good. that's not, but that's what happened with us right now.
She's my Coney Island gal, my Coney Island gal.
People are like, people are like fucking crying.
It's like, oh, that was my first dance at my wedding.
It's like, what the fuck?
Coney Island gal.
Yeah, you're right.
That's the thing.
We're making that transition into old age.
Old fucks.
Not just fat fucks anymore.
Now we're old fucks.
This guy, 40th birthday in Toronto.
Toronto.
HBD.
Thank you.
Thank you.
His first surprise party.
My first surprise party.
Wow.
Thrown by the one and only.
Got him good.
Got his ass.
That's a very Mitch thing to do.
Very. Yeah. It was kind of funny,
the two ways where I surprised people
on their 40th birthday hated me and was very grateful.
Yours was the day after your 40th.
I was also confused.
Was it a surprise party?
Well, here's the thing.
I turned 40 during COVID.
Okay.
So this was 2020.
I feel like that is like a monkey pot,
I mean, not even a monkey pot wish,
that's just a regular wish for you
to have your 40th birthday be,
you have to be inside and no one can see you.
I'm not a birthday guy.
I'm not either.
Yeah, so I don't really do anything for a birthday.
But you love birthday flavor.
I do love birthday flavor.
I do too.
Really?
Oh, me?
I don't like what's going on here.
You and I are friends.
Yeah, no, no, we can all be friends.
No.
Me and John are gonna have a picture together
at Prince Street.
Wait, I think it's a, I'm not a big,
I like don't really celebrate my birthday.
I'll sometimes like go out to dinner
with like my wife or whatever, but I'm not like,
it's like, I don't really care about birthday presents.
Mitch brought, it was a lovely gesture.
It was very nice, but I was just confused
as to what was happening.
You brought a bunch of our friends over to my apartment.
You said, hey, I'm gonna come over
to drop off some tax documents.
I was like, okay.
I went downstairs to meet you and you're like,
oh, look, it's everyone's here.
And I was like, where are the tax documents?
Which I did give you them, didn't I?
You did give them.
I don't know if I forgot them.
And you got 40 copies of This Is 40.
Oh, that's right, I forgot about that, that was funny.
40 copies.
40 DVD copies of This Is 40.
That was funny.
Oh my god.
I think, to give credit, I think Van gave you that.
Yeah, that's a Van.
Which is an annoying Van.
That's a nice laugh, and then after everybody leaves,
you're like, what the fuck am I gonna do with this?
No matter what you do, you look like a freak, which is good.
Also during COVID, you probably stuck with those
bad boys for a while.
You probably just threw them away, is my guess.
I don't know where they are.
They're somewhere.
Yeah.
I hope you watch every one.
They're in the Doughboy storage unit.
They might be in the store.
Honestly, they might be.
It could become a, not every time someone turns 40,
you just give them one of those DVDs.
I should have thought of that.
That could have become your thing.
Yeah, you could start distro-ing them. Yeah. Paying it forward should have thought of that. That could have become your thing.
Yeah, you could start distro-ing them.
Paying it forward.
Yeah, paying it forward.
Haley Joel Osment.
Hey.
Very good.
Wait, is he in Pay It Forward?
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's the kid in Pay It Forward.
I've never seen Pay It Forward.
I haven't either, but I know he's in it,
because I'm a good friend.
Fuck.
It stars your favorite actor.
Who's that?
Kevin Spacey. It's got stars your favorite actor. Who's that?
God damn it
Sixth Sense AI he's great movies. Oh, yeah both those movies
that was my like wait look we had him on the podcast before and
Great podcast guest every if you ever great time would be great be great to have him back. Very, very successful career.
But just talking to him about that,
he had such a healthy perspective on it.
We were just like, I'm proud of those movies.
Those movies were good.
Like, he's great in them.
He's amazing in them.
He's amazing.
I always try to talk to him about them a little bit,
but I can never, I don't know if people wanna talk about
stuff that they did 20, 30 years ago or whatever.
So, but it is fascinating.
AI is great.
If you, I don't know if you watched, AI holds up so well.
I haven't really watched it recently, but I love it.
It's a great movie.
I love it.
Casey, you like AI?
It's been a while since I've seen it, but I remember,
I remember liking a lot until, I don't know,
the end kind of kept going.
The end is, it does have like,
it does just kind of end and end
and it has kind of a weird sort of storybook
sort of quality to it.
But the thing that I never was just kind of,
oh, this is Spielberg, he made it all treacly or whatever.
But then it turned out that that was actually
all Kubrick stuff, which was interesting.
And it also is like kind of just sad in many ways.
Yeah, sad and weird.
Also Minority Report, a great,
I like that era of Spielberg.
Oh, love my favorite Spielberg.
Spielberg Renaissance.
Yeah, those were fun.
My mom had never seen The Sixth Sense,
and we watched it, this was like two years ago.
Wow.
So we watched it, and I was texting with a buddy,
and he was like, you have to record your mom
at the end of The Sixth Sense,
because she legitimately had no idea what happened.
And I was recording her, and she was sitting there,
and she was just, it was like getting late,
and she was getting tired.
And then it was like, you know,
you see everything happening,
and the wife asleep on the couch, and him being like, realizing that he's dead, if you haven't seen And then it was like, you know, you see everything happening and the wife asleep on the couch and him being like,
realizing that he's dead.
If you haven't seen it, please.
Yeah.
Uh.
You can tell our listeners are annoying, eh?
She was sitting there on the couch.
She was watching.
And I could just see her like getting sleepy.
And then as it was happening, she was waking up a little more
and a little more.
And then she literally would just walk like this.
She was sitting there on the couch she was watching and I could just see her like getting sleepy and then as it was happening She was waking up a little more a little more and then she literally would just want like this
Like a mini seizure
Could not believe it I was like how this is that's great. Yeah, that's great
I knew going into the six minutes when I that sucks. Yeah, that's a bummer. And then I left and I was like, that was stupid.
I like knew it was going to happen.
It's like, yeah, you hurt.
Like, you know, I was 13 or something.
Oh, yeah.
I was completely surprised.
When was it?
1998.
1999 maybe.
Oh shit, so I was 16, 15 or 16.
I was completely surprised by it.
Saw it in the theater.
I loved it.
I loved the twist experience.
Loved it.
And I'm not having that spoiled for me.
Same thing with usual suspects,
whether they're Kevin Spacey. But that one, I did not have the twist spoiled for me. Same thing with usual suspects, whether they're Kevin Spacey.
But that one, I did not have the twist spoiled for me.
And so experiencing it for the first time,
I was like, holy shit, this is awesome.
Yeah.
The twist that Kevin Spacey's a bad guy.
Yeah.
This is an ad-up and all.
Life imitating art, huh?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, but my dad, who's like, he's just like,
he always tries to solve movies
He like figured it out and he knew he knew he figured out six cents
Like one of the first times that was done right of like he was dead the whole time right? Yeah, like you ever see the others
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's another one
That is well now our listeners are gonna be
double mad at you.
The other, they're pissed.
We've ruined three 30 year old movies.
Yeah, it's fine.
Sorry.
I mean, hey, our listeners are bad.
It's not your fault.
Wags.
Our listeners are.
Our listeners suck.
Deep dish was great.
The cheese was better than the veggie.
Did your dad figure out usual suspects?
That's what I had to know.
I don't know.
I'll have to ask him.
I like the deep dish quite a bit.
I also like, which was, Amelia will tell you,
we were making the order in our Doughboyz text chain.
That's right.
And then I texted her privately,
Amelia, you can speak to this if you'd like,
but I said, let's order an extra pizza, don't tell Wiggs.
Actually, you want me to just read you the text exchange?
Yeah, please.
This is at 1228 AM.
I feel like we should add an extra most bestest pepperoni
or cheese onto that and not tell Wiggs, LOL.
I guess if it's cheese, he can eat it.
And then Emilio said, LOL, why can't Wiggs know?
And I said, he'll get mad that it's too much,
but it'll be a hit.
And was I wrong?
It was a hit with the hunks.
You're right on, yeah, it was a hit with the fucking hunks.
You're right on both counts.
I was mad and it was good.
No, I like that.
I like that a lot.
I think the extra most bestest,
which is basically just what they call it,
the extra cheese pizza,
but it's got like the right amount,
right proportion of cheese.
It's kind of like the cheese stick honestly,
in pizza form.
I loved it.
You also said when you came in,
you were like, I did a fun trick.
I made Amelia order an extra pizza.
Yeah.
Like it was a magic trick.
You clever son of a bitch.
You clever son bitch.
All right, I'll keep going.
So I said, add extra most bestest cheese.
We can discuss this betrayal tomorrow on the pod.
Hmm, though getting one he can't eat is funniest.
And then I'm like, oh, and I said,
may as well let him eat a slice, little bitch, LOL.
I'm pretty sure I was half asleep during this conversation.
I was up till four almost.
I've been getting good sleep, and then last night,
I had to change three litter boxes last night.
Oh, man.
Wally's, Irma's, and your own. and then last night I had to change three litter boxes last night. It was-
Oh man, Wally's, Irma's and your own.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The litter robot, when I go in the litter robot,
that thing struggles to fucking.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The big three, I had to change the big three last night.
It was a late night.
Extra rosé, bestest cheese. I mean, I think big three last night. It was a late night. Extra rosbestos cheese.
I mean, I think I like the deep dish more
just because I like the-
I would say yes, but man, today, I don't know.
Today, maybe it was, maybe extra rosbestos maybe won.
Yeah.
We got, okay, let me just go, we got the wings.
Jono requests the wings.
Can we talk about the stuffed crazy bread
before we move on to the wings?
Sure.
Just stay in Pizza Town.
Jono said he wanted to get, actually,
this is another Mitch trick.
Johnno said he wanted to get these bad boys here,
which we haven't tried them yet.
These are the cookie dough brownie made
with Eminem's mini chocolate candy.
They look completely different than they do online.
They really do.
And we were upset that they weren't warm.
I think we maybe have eaten them before, why?
Because I think it's a possibility.
I can't remember.
Maybe I have.
But we were sad the way they came,
but Jono had taken a screen grab of those
and then I sent them to you guys
and the stuffed crazy bread was under that.
I said, Jono wants these.
And I said, you know what?
I'm just gonna let the fucking stuffed cheesy bread slide.
Because why not?
But.
Wait, so you didn't request the stuffed crazy bread?
No, I was like, let's switch it up from all the breaded cheese...
...and do wings and then some kind of weird dessert.
Yeah.
Cause you're in John O' Wants These, everyone assumed you meant both things.
Yeah, I know.
Hahaha!
It's not lying to you if I just didn't tell you everything.
Hahaha!
I didn't realize everybody was coming in here being like,
John O' Requested So Much Shit, What A Piece Of Shit, What what an asshole. And he's there on time, what a piece of shit.
I'll say this, the feast, it was a great feast, the hunks are happy. Wonderful feast., absolutely. It's one of the, again, it's the reason it's the pizza
of the working class.
It's still pretty affordable.
That CEO, I mean, he's passed away now,
but he helped Rosa Parks.
He kept prices low.
He seems like the best you can be in that role.
He seems like a good man.
And hopefully there's no thing about him being a bad man,
but he seems like a great guy.
I mean, I'm sure there is, but it's fine.
The only one spreading bad things about him
is your great-grandfather. Ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha ha!
Good old Aldous Mitchell, who I think did kill
the Little Caesar CEO.
I think he assassinated the Little Caesar CEO.
Ha ha ha ha!
We gotta open these bad boys up.
Hopped in with a 3D-printed gun
and then hopped on a city bike.
Ha ha ha ha!
We, uh... What is the, wait, hold on. I wanna talk about the stuff crazy bread, though, before we get into that. Oh, it sucks. We're gonna open these bad boys up and we- Hopped into the 3D printed gun and then hopped on a city bike. We-
What is the, wait, hold on.
I wanna talk about the stuffed crazy bread though,
before we get into that.
Oh, it sucks.
Yeah, I mean, it's not that good.
It's like a hot pocket filled with cheese, basically.
It didn't even seem like it was filled with cheese.
Well, not that much cheese, yeah.
No, I like took a bite into it and I was expecting
some like mozzarella stick type cheese or something.
Not a lot.
Here's the thing is that Domino's does a much better version
of that. They do this, they do their stuffed stuffed, it's not crazy, but cheesy bread,
their cheesy bread and their cheesy bread is pretty good. It is good. They also already have
the cre the regular crazy bread or the jalapeno crazy bread, which I just rather have. That was
better. That was a much better version. Okay. We got the wings to talk about and then we got that.
I don't think their wings are very good. I got the, so on my own, I got the barbecue wings.
First off, the name, and I understand
that they maybe just don't wanna call everything crazy,
but they're called Caesar wings.
To me, that's a little bit confusing,
even though it's little Caesars,
because Caesar is also a flavor.
So I'm like, are these like Caesar salad seasoning wings?
They're not, but I got barbecue on my own own for lunch and I thought they were bad quality wings,
but the sauce was fine.
And I think that was probably the case with the buffalo.
I didn't have any of the buffalo today.
John, I requested the buffalo wings and I said,
you foolish son of a bitch.
You have no idea what the hell these, these are not good.
I mean, you're not a dough boy, so I get it.
I mean, I'd never had little Caesar's before.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
I'm a fucking idiot. I mean, you're not a doughboy, so I get it. I mean, I'd never had Little Caesar's before. Yeah, yeah, I know.
Fucking idiot.
Oh.
But you wanted the wings.
We got the wings.
You wanted the cheesy bread.
We got the cheesy bread.
I didn't want the cheesy bread.
You wanted an extra pizza.
We got you an extra pizza.
The wings there are not great.
I don't think that they're the worst wings
I've gotten at a pizza place, but they're not very good.
I just wouldn't, I would never get.
I wouldn't have no reason.
I don't think you would go to a Little Caesars for wings.
Yeah.
Hey, if you get a side of eight wings
and someone at the party wants wings, they're fine.
They're fine, they're fine, they're fine.
They're a little soft.
Yeah, a little soft.
The one thing I will say, because Allie had some of those,
and she was like, at least it's like real food.
You know what I mean?
That's one thing about like a wing,
is like you're just like, hey, you know what?
This is like a thing that is like not,
like it's like an animal part in sauce.
Yes, there's some protein in there.
There's something of nutritional value.
Yeah. Yeah.
All right.
You don't have to shame us.
We know that we don't have any nutrition about-
As he holds his cookie dough thing in his hand.
I don't want to try one too.
So what are, they're cookie dough brownies, right?
Cookie dough brownies.
Cookie dough brownie made with M&M's mini chocolate candies
is the official menu item name.
They come in a little-
A brownie topped with chocolate cookie dough frosting
and M&M mini's, I don't know,
the description is the exact same thing.
So this is frosting on top.
They come in a little Wags condom here.
Look at this.
Okay, all right.
Is there a knife or anything back there?
Oh shit, I lost the M&M into the couch forever.
Oh, do you need one?
I don't know if y'all wanna try this at all.
I'm just gonna rip a piece off.
Mm.
Amelia, you don't need to grab a knife.
I'm just gonna rip a piece off.
Lot of, there's a lot going on.
You wanna walk those over, thank you.
What am I tasting?
I think this sucks.
This is not good.
It's not good.
It tastes like kind of like cardboard.
It's very Play-Doh-y.
Yes, Play-Doh, that's what it's like.
The texture is not good.
The texture is very chalky.
Yes, the chalky, the frosting,
like it's not quite frosting.
It's kind of like a midpoint between frosting
and like graham cracker crust.
It's supposed to be cookie dough, right?
It is.
These suck.
I'm just eating it to get rid of it.
I want it out of my life.
It's bad.
Yeah, I want it out.
Did any of you have them?
Yeah, I don't like that.
I regret eating that.
It sucks, right? Thumbs down, Casey's skipping it.
I skipped it based on everyone's glowing reviews.
The texture on the top of that, that like brown stuff on top,
when Amelia grabbed it and broke it,
looked like, you know that foam stuff kids play with
that you can like shape and turn into different colors?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, kinetic sand.
Yeah, kinetic sand. That's like kind of what that looks like. Oh, you know Kinetic Sand, but not Empty Nest theme song?
That was dog shit.
Can I just say just kind of a general theory of mine?
Can I say something about this?
Yeah, please.
Did I request the shittiest stuff?
Umgapachka.
It is umgapachka.
Too much going on.
What's your theory?
Go ahead.
I don't ever need a pizza place dessert.
I think like the chain pizza dessert
just does not need to exist.
You disagree.
No, I think you're right.
Yeah.
Well, do you remember that hot fudge brownie
they had at Domino's?
Which I think does still exist.
That was pretty good.
Maybe that should be the only one that can exist.
Yeah, I mean, it could be the exception that breaks,
that, you know, I said the wrong way,
the exception that proves the rule,
but also it could, I'm also, do I even need that?
Like from Domino's, I don't really need that.
No, you're right.
Like when you finish from a chain pizza place,
you're not jonesing for a chocolate piece of shit.
Yeah, especially that, that's fucking nasty yeah. The real exception to the Bruiser rule
is the BJ's Pizzucchi,
which is an incredible dessert,
one of the best chain restaurant desserts,
but that's also a sit down place.
Yes.
It's like you might have something other than pizza.
Well, it's also the thing that we talk about
of like all these corporations
that then try to do everything.
It's like, you know, like,
what was the place that used to
have yogurt in the name and now it just is a yogurt land.
Yeah, just land.
Just land now. It's really weird.
Really weird move for them.
Well, how Duncan donuts has become Duncan.
Yes.
I hate that.
I hate that too.
And also Duncan donuts started in Quincy, Massachusetts.
Yes.
Crumble cookies now crumble.
Crumble.
They, they, it was always crumble, but they But all of these Sean Parker, yeah, and yeah,
the yogurt one dropped it.
Jamba juice.
Jamba juice is now Jamba, yeah.
That is actually what I was thinking about,
most of the yogurts, it was just Jamba.
It's that sort of thing of like, you don't need to,
I don't need to like buy Band-Aids at Jamba Juice,
I don't need to have fucking dessert,
it doesn't make any sense, I don't need this shit.
Why is Jamba Juice selling Band-Aids?
Why is Jamba Juice selling Band-Aids?
Did you get Band-Aids at Jamba Juice recently?
Because I'm worried.
I got a fucking acai bowl and a-
The fucking Band-Aid.
Cold compress. What the fuck is going on here?
I'm just saying, there's no-
Like, it's- it's chains trying to do more than they have to do.
Yeah, I agree.
Which Little Caesars actually is one that's like-
They kind of do do the more of the basics,
but there's the wings and this,
you just don't need to do that.
You can do any cheese bread you want, you know what I mean?
I think there's also an element of like,
this is such a family meal,
and sometimes the kids want a dessert.
And so they have this and brownies as well.
I just think they should be warmed up in the oven.
Yeah, you can just tell that this is these this is a secondary thought for them, too
And that's why it looks like this and tastes like and that's why it's made in a factory kitchen and comes in plastic
Yeah, what the fuck?
Make it in store. I don't know warm it up for me. Can I say something about that? Please? I disagree
I think it should be colder. I think it's
Colder yeah, I think she actually took it out of the fridge
or a freezer.
She took it from a cold area.
Interesting.
I think warming it up would make it fall apart more.
I think the key is for it to be cold
because that's what cookie dough is.
It's a cold thing. It might be like, you know,
like a cookie, ice cream cookie sandwich.
So is this a skill issue on our part?
Were we supposed to have eaten that right away,
like, you know, while it was colder?
If it is supposed to be frozen,
it's almost disturbing that it hasn't melted
or anything that now that it's warm.
I'll also say that when I went to the location
where I picked mine up,
I saw these just sitting on the shelf.
They were just at room temp.
They weren't refrigerated, but.
Well, we can give it to the honks.
We'll see what they think.
In between their salads.
Oh, another brown thing?
I saw one in the toilet earlier.
And now I made one.
Oh, no.
I can't go to the Christmas party tonight.
And then ought to stuff between their salads, pizza,
and injecting themselves with the substance.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. That's why the hunks come in here every other week,
is they're on the substance.
It's a big gnarled version of them back at their apartment.
The other version of them is making workout videos.
All right, we should get to our fork score. So Jono, here's how this will work.
We will each go around, we will give a closing argument, if you will, some final thoughts
on Little Caesars, and then we'll end by giving it a fork score.
Now here's what I'd like to propose to you, Mitch.
I think Jono should go last.
Cause I think I know where you and I are gonna land.
And I'll just kick this thing off first.
I've said for the third time
that this is the pizza of the working class.
I think there's, I still have the strongest argument.
You can maybe say Costco,
cause Costco's pizza is so cheap, but also-
Costco working class?
This is the thing you have to have the membership. That's the thing. So it's more of a little bit more of a middle class thing. Costco's pizza is so cheap, but also. Costco working class? It's a membership to get into.
You have to have the membership, that's the thing.
So it's more of a little bit more of a middle class thing.
I like how affordable Little Caesars is.
I love how you can get like,
still you get a hot and ready,
I know it's not $5 anymore, but still just cheap
and that can fill you, be a working man's lunch
or that can fill up a small family.
It brings the boom.
It brings the boom.
Boom. Oh no the boom. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Five booms.
Did you not do it for me?
You weren't gonna do it with me?
Oh, you wanted me to go, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Thank you.
Can I do one?
Yeah.
Boom, boom, boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom boom I'm like, it was. Yeah, it's a fucking blast.
I like that it's affordable. I think the quality of pizza in terms of what they do,
I think the quality of pizza is quite high
for the price point.
And I think you compare it to the sort of the big four,
the Mount Rushmore of US pizza chains,
Domino's, Pizza Hut, Little Caesar's and Papa John's.
It's my second favorite after Domino's.
And I like Domino's quite a bit. Yeah. I think Little Caesar's deserves four John's. It's my second favorite after Domino's. And I like Domino's quite a bit.
Yeah.
I think Little Caesar's deserves four and a half forks.
And that's where I'm going to land.
Mitch, let's go to you.
Wise, you steered me wrong on a power hour Eve,
on Thanksgiving Eve.
How so?
You told me to get the Brooklyn style pizza from Domino's.
Yeah, I like the Brooklyn style. Pan pizza from Domino's. Yeah, I like the Brooklyn style.
Pan pizza from Domino's is the way to go.
Wow.
The handmade, hand tossed pan.
I should've, everyone on that text chain was wrong.
Everyone was wrong.
Well, all right, you're asking for our input.
We're saying what we like.
Everyone on that text chain was ordering Taco Bell.
Everyone did order Taco Bell.
So actually everyone on that text chain was right.
I was the one who was wrong.
I shouldn't have ordered Domino's.
Domino's is probably, we've said this before,
people were like, Domino's is lousy pizza.
It's like, well, sometimes you're
in the mood for Domino's.
It's true.
It's different from being in the mood for good pizza.
Sometimes I want North of Brooklyn type pizza.
Sometimes I want to go to Quarter Sheets Wags.
That's one of my favorite restaurants in LA.
You got to go.
You can come with me if you'd like. Love to. Wags is supposed to go. He's never been. I'd love to go to a tight pizza. Sometimes I wanna go to Quarter Sheets Wags. That's one of my favorite restaurants in LA. You gotta go.
You can come with me if you'd like.
Love to.
Wags is supposed to go.
He's never been.
I'd love to go.
You're not invited in our crew.
What are you talking about?
With us two?
I mean, first of all, you're not gonna come.
I would come.
Oh, God.
One night out.
Let him come.
Make a pizza with friends.
I'd come.
All right, fine.
You're invited.
Wow, when are you going?
I don't know.
All right, we'll figure it out.
We'll figure it out.
Figure it out.
Wanna go tonight and skip the head gun party?
We can have more fun.
Hold on, hold on, okay,
I found this in the Power Hour text thread.
Is Handmade Pan or Brooklyn style better at Domino's?
This is Mitch.
I said I like Brooklyn.
It gets a heart from Emma,
and a thumbs up from Gabris.
This is after everybody is drunk.
Everyone in this thread is actively drunk.
This is, I am up so late, it's 10.57 p.m.
Um, Mitch says, wow, Gilly, our buddy Yellin' Assim,
also a writer for Twisted Metal.
That's right.
Who we went to the-
Mimis.
Mimis with, yep.
Season two coming soon to Peacock, Says Brooklyn, Emma says Brooklyn for sure.
Mitch, you order the Brooklyn.
I did?
You did.
Well, well, well, well.
I never met it.
That's not even, I always get the pan piece.
You get a dough boys to merit.
11, 12 p.m. Mitch says, I usually go pan,
but went with a consensus.
I pray you are all right.
I pray. Mitch, right. I pray.
Mitch, I'm so sorry, drunk, I'm a lot to you.
1149 PM, Betsy says, Betsy Sodaro,
we just ate, all caps, so much Taco Bell.
And then Mitch replies, Domino's was so bad, I fucked up.
Which in reality, you guys fucked up.
No, I mean, it's still on you.
I can hear Mitch saying, fuck up. Fuck fucked up. No, I mean, it's still on you. I can hear Mitch saying, fucked up.
Fucked up.
I was just laying on my couch.
Not that, I wasn't that-
I fucked up.
I drank about six to seven beers and had a couple shots of Jägermeister.
Oh, that'll do it.
This was in an hour.
It was the power hour.
But I felt pretty good.
I felt okay too.
Oscar Montoya, by the way, also then just replied
with a screenshot of Godzilla minus one.
Yeah.
That was a fun texture.
He was sober on Oscar, and he was being hilarious.
Everyone was being hilarious, it was a fun night.
Domino's is my number one place for like non-good,
like chain pizza.
Chain pizza, for like, yeah. And I mean, like even people call it shitty, I'm like, yeah, like chain pizza.
Like, yeah.
And I mean, like even people call it shitty.
I'm like, yeah, I still, but I still think,
but it's good.
I think highly of Domino's in many ways.
I love Little Caesars and I've like,
Domino's is like a five forker for me.
This place, if you get the hits,
if you get the extra most bestest pizza,
it's in the golden play club for me.
And I'm honestly deciding whether it should be Five Forks.
And I think I'm gonna, the CEO is a good man.
It's working class, it's affordable, it's hot and ready.
I wish there was more of a delivery component.
I mean, that's where Dom, but you know what?
This is the whole thing.
First of all, you can get it delivered.
I think it's through third party service,
but part of how they're able to keep costs down
is that they are not delivery focused,
they're pickup focused. Which is good, it's a good thing too.
Which I like that, yeah.
I'm going five forks.
Wow, five forks from the spoon man.
Yeah.
All right, John, I mean,
this is one of the changes you probably should root for,
I mean, they're all evil in a way.
I agree.
But the guy was, the CEO, what's his name again?
I don't have it in front of me.
He's, like, he was a, he's a,
it sounds like he was a good man.
I'm sure he had some problems, but yes,'s like, he was a, he's a good, it sounds like he was a good man. I'm sure he had some, some problems,
but yes, in general, among this class,
among the class of, of Titans of industry who, you know,
versus someone like the, who was the piece of shit
who ran Andy Puzder, the guy who ran Carl's Jr. parties.
There's, there's some real pieces of shit, Papa John,
obviously, in that sector.
And so, yeah, it's, it's, it's, uh,
compared to everyone else.
What I was going to say is, I forgot, um, in that sector and so yeah, it's compared to everyone else.
What I was gonna say is, I forgot.
What were you just telling,
you were saying something else, what was it?
Domino's delivery.
Oh, pickup delivery.
Oh, I was gonna say about the marketing.
That's another reason I feel like you're to root
for Little Caesars, pizza pizza.
Pizza pizza.
It's a fun little guy.
Their advertising is pretty quirky.
I think their marketing is a lot of fun.
All right, Jono, it falls to you.
No pressure, because I honestly just want you to say-
More fun than the Noid?
The Noid is gone forever.
Well, he lives on with us with Coloic.
Is the Noid more fun than Little Caesar?
It feels like an episode.
It does. It does a future episode.
You can come back for that if you'd like.
All right.
I wonder if the Noid made an appearance at our live show.
That's a big question.
I wonder.
I wonder.
People will know now.
They'll know now.
We don't have any ideas yet, so probably is my answer.
We asked John O, he says no.
We get to be the Little Caesar guy?
I'd be the Little Caesar guy anytime.
It's so fun to say, pizza, pizza.
It's pretty damn good.
Look, Jono's in a motion capture suit
doing the Little Caesar movie next week.
Pizza, pizza. a motion capture suit doing the Little Caesar movie next week.
All right. Look, Domino's out of those four heavyweights, Domino's has got to be number one.
And I think it's far and away number one.
I think if you're kind of hungover or you're just having a lazy Sunday
and you're watching football, Little Caesars will do.
I also want to call it Will Caesars for some reason.
I know and it's not, it's not Little Caesars.
It is Little, Little, Teensy Baby Caesar.
Pizza, pizza.
Ha ha ha.
Here's my biggest problem with it
is that there's like no sauce on anything.
I know they give you those big jugs, but it just a lot of it to me just tasted like bread.
You know, there wasn't enough.
We like bread.
There wasn't enough flavor for me.
Like when you get the cheesy bread from Domino's, there's like some garlic sprinkles and some there's some pop to it a little bit.
And I didn't get that with Little Caesars.
Yeah, this is all cheesening.
It's not like seasoning.
It's all cheesening and I didn't get enough flavor.
Now, I was originally gonna say three and a half forks,
but I think you're right.
The marketing is really fun, pizza, pizza.
God bless Rosa Parks.
So I'm gonna give it four and a half forks.
Four and a half forks, my God.
Welcome back to the Golden Plate Club, Little Caesars.
You have rejoined the elite and chain restaurant.
Emma with a little, a smaller golf clap there.
That was very nice.
I will take a half a fork away if we find out that CEO is as bad as Mitch's great-grandfather thought he was.
I'm sure our listeners will tell us.
Yeah.
And then we'll get in trouble.
I've had the chronic what, colds of Narnia in my head ever since you said lazy something.
Oh yeah, that's so fun. What a good bit.
Yeah.
A good fun song, Wags. Fun song. Fun song. Hey, that's so fun. What a good bit. Yeah. A fun song, Wags.
Fun song.
Hey, that was a review of Little Caesars.
It's time for a segment.
I've got a food related exam
and Mitch and Jono must compete for superiority.
It's Slop Quiz.
And this is Slop Quiz, chew or false,
movie tie-in menu or movie lion men no.
Oh.
I'll read the description.
What the hell does that mean?
Wait, did you do this, Amelia?
She did.
You look very satisfied for a second.
Why not?
She sat back, put her hands behind her head,
put a cigar in.
I'm satisfied with the title that Wiggs came up with
at the end, the tie-in men know.
Yeah, the title I altered a little bit,
but the game is all Amelia.
I already have the description of a movie tie-in menu,
and you tell me if it really existed or was made up
by our exclusive producer, Amelia Marina.
You guys know the Chronicle of Narnia, right?
The Lino Lazy Sunday?
Yes.
We've seen like old men singing Lazy Sunday at this point.
That made me feel fucking, how old is that?
That'll be us nerds.
15 years old.
Yeah, I was like 15. 20 years old almost. Yeah, that was in 2009 be 15 years. Yeah, it was like 15.
20 years old almost.
Yeah, it is.
2009 maybe?
Yeah.
I think even before that maybe.
I think 2006, 2007, yikes.
Yeesh.
That is, that's getting up there.
Yeah, that'll be us in a retirement home someday.
Singing the Karakwakos of Narnia.
That was a good bit when I was young.
And Chris Barnett was older than most people. Yeah. Ha ha ha ha ha. That was a good bit when I was young. Ha ha ha ha ha.
Chris Barnett was older than most people.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Oh, okay, sure.
Ha ha ha ha.
All right, so I'll read the description.
Tell me if it's true, true, or false.
False, so if it was real or made up.
Okay.
Okay, great.
First up.
True, true, or false is just false still?
Yeah, I think so.
How about food? Okay, true or food?, chew, or false is just false still? Yeah, I think so.
How about food?
Okay, chew or food?
All right, chew or food.
Okay, number one, and you can interject at any time,
but I advise you to let me read the entire prompt.
Okay.
Number one, IHOP's Grinch menu in 2018,
featuring the following items.
Grinch's Green Pancakes,
Whoville Holiday Cheesecake French Toast,
Minty Who Hot Chocolate and Who roast beast omelet.
It's chew.
It's chew.
You both get it.
Yes, this is chew.
All right, next up.
Easy one to start with.
Yeah, well it's number one.
Sounds like things are gonna get a little trickier.
No, I'm just saying like that's the way,
yeah, that means immediately did a good job.
It's like who wants a millionaire?
The first question is- Who wants a million? Who wants a millionaire like who wants a millionaire the right first question is wants a man who wants a millionaire
Alright next up Baskin Robbins Mitchell versus the machines menu in 2021 Rocky Roadtrip
Rainbow robot orange sherbert and and Pal Pistachio.
I'm gonna say chew.
I'm gonna say food.
Jono gets it, it is food or false.
There was no Mitchell versus the Machines menu
from Baskin Robbins.
Who would give a shit about that movie?
Hey, hey, hey!
It had my name in the fucking title.
I actually never- You weren't in it.
I never got around to seeing Mitchell versus the Machines.
I heard it was good.
I heard it was a fun anime. I'm sure it was,
but it was one of those that isn't like Disney,
so nobody, or Pixar,
so nobody wanted to see it. Right, it did not, yeah.
It didn't have the lasting cultural footprint.
All right, next up.
Jono's up.
Fuck.
From Jono to Johnny,
Johnny Rockets' Kong Skull Island menu in 2017,
the Hickory Smoked Peppered Bacon Cheeseburger,
the Root 66 Mushroom Swissburger, and Street Tots.
Chew.
Mitch says chew.
I'm gonna say food.
Mitch takes it.
This one. I knew this one.
You know this one, Mitch,
because we had it on the podcast.
We had it all.
Eugene Cordero, who was in that movie.
It seems like there's a handicap going on.
There was a, well, this is the thing,
Mitch and I don't remember a lot of the episodes we've done.
I actually didn't remember that we did it on the podcast,
but I was like, I feel like this is real.
I believe you, I believe you.
Those are really the items,
they called it the Route 66 Mushroom Swissburger.
Yeah, I guess. Because I remember they had like a Kong shake.
They had like a banana shake and they had like,
but the actual, it feels like they didn't put any effort
into the savory side.
I like that, the Kong shake, the banana shake.
A banana shake, we did do that.
That's nice, that's nice.
Yeah, that was fun.
Speaking of handicap, you know,
the last Christmas gift my dad ever gave me
were a set of golf clubs.
I really need to, you're a Lynx man, like we said,
we didn't get into it too much. I sidetracked it by yelling at you about being in a clubhouse. I feel like,
you know what, as a boy, like, not a boy, but like when I was younger, like I did have
like a Shirley Temple in a golf clubhouse.
Oh, that's the best. That's what you do the 19th hole when you were a boy.
Yeah. I want to golf again. I know you're a big golfer.
We'll do it anytime you want.
You're too good though.
I mean, I would-
Well, we could go to like a short course.
Sure.
Just mess around.
It's all about the 19th hole anyway, right?
There you go.
You know what I'm talking about.
I do now.
Oh yeah.
Hey, Katie DeVito's teeing off in front of us.
This is a short course.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah. Mitch is teeing off of him,
cause it was hog.
I get allowed in, I have to show my hog.
You must be six three, this is a short course.
One second.
Oh my God.
Get on the first tee.
Throw the line.
I think I would have to go to the driving range
and then take a couple lessons, but I would like to golf.
It would be fun.
That would be fun.
Or we could just go to the driving range.
Oh, there you go.
Oh, that would be a mess.
I would have to take a lesson and then go to the driving range.
And then we would go to the far right side
so you don't shank it and hit anybody.
Yeah, that's very smart.
Good tip.
You know, once, speaking about the Celtics,
when I was at that country club as a kid,
I shanked a ball between Bob Cousy's legs.
Whoa! Oh my God!
Celtics legend.
Yes. How about that?
He turned around and he really stared me down
in a pretty angry way.
Wow, that's intense.
Yeah.
And I just stood there frozen.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, that's terrifying.
That's amazing.
I worked at a golf club after it,
after I was a garbage man one summer. The trade? And the next two summers, I worked at a golf club after I was a garbage man one summer
and then the next two summers I worked at a golf club.
Much better.
And I saw Walter McCarty there.
I love Walter.
Wait, I just wanna recap.
I think you've got two.
All even.
It's all even, yes.
We both did the Grinch menu
and we're split on the Mitchell Machines
and the Congo Skull Island.
Okay, next up.
Number four.
Howard Johnson's 2001, A Space Odyssey Kids menu in 1968.
This included the Happy Clown, which is a spaghetti
with Italian style tomato sauce dish,
a Jack Horner, which was a PBJ sandwich,
ice cream sherbet, or jello,
and Tommy Tucker, sliced roast turkey, potato,
vegetable oil and butter, and a little boy blue,
grilled hamburger patty and potato.
Was this chew or food?
This is so much stuff that I'm like,
did you guys really make this up?
And my answer is, yes, you did, food.
I agree, I say food.
This was real.
There was a Howard Johnson's 2001
Space Odyssey Kids menu. How did you find that?
Too much specifics. I shouldn't...
I Googled, like, old tie-in menus,
and that was one that showed up.
That's crazy.
This again, unless I'm missing something,
and I've seen 2001 a number of times,
I don't know what the connection of the menu names is to...
the movie.
Jack Horner, like, a character in the movie?
It doesn't seem like they are that related.
So Howard Johnson's is, that doesn't exist anymore, right?
No, I think there might be one left.
Aren't they like hotels?
It's a hotel chain that has, yeah, it's a hotel chain and then had the restaurant.
You have free breakfast.
Guess you know where it started?
Wendy, Massachusetts.
That's right.
Really?
As well as Duncan.
Yeah.
They had this comic book and then it had a menu on it.
And it was called like the 2001 Space Odyssey Kids menu.
And then at the bottom of the comic book,
it had these items with how much it cost.
Wow.
So I don't know how it relates to 2001, but it was there.
Your great grandpa Hal from the movie.
All right, next up, it's still 2-2.
Cracker.
By the way, I just wanna give a shout.
The North Quincy won the Thanksgiving Day game
against Quincy High.
Your old high school.
My old high school. My old high school.
There you go.
They were the number one play in Sports Center's
top 10 on Thanksgiving night.
What was the play?
This quarterback, well I guess the quarterback's really good.
I wish I could remember his name
because I would give him a shout out.
I think Jamba or something.
Jamba Juice?
Yeah, I think he just goes by Jamba now.
Jamba now.
You don't need to lower his social status at school
by mentioning him on the Doughboys podcast.
Let him be the quarterback hunk.
Yeah, never a good thing to, yeah.
It was never a good thing when you were so sure yourself
with me at North Quincy.
But he like scrambled in the last like minute of the game and like threw a hail Mary
and the kid caught it in the end zone and like tied up and then they went on to win.
Wow.
Wow.
Next up, all right, Cracker Barrel's Hillbilly Elegy Menu in 2020.
Ma-Ma's Chicken Casserole, JD's homemade ham and cranberry sauce and country pumpkin soup.
Is this true or false, true or food?
Food, food, food.
You say food, Mitch?
Can you say it again?
I'm looking at the play, it's pretty fucking good.
You were a good football player.
You're just watching the play,
you're not looking for the name to shout him out.
The play is fucking good.
I did, I got the, a senior quarterback,
the balloons are up, what is everyone pointing at?
The TV had an ad up for Matlock.
Wow.
Meet Indiana Jones?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I didn't join him.
His name is senior quarterback Mike Galligan.
So congrats.
Wow, Mike Galligan.
You're right there with Giamba.
What the fuck did that come from?
You knew a G was in there.
I wish I could find the name of the wide receiver,
who caught it too, because that was pretty impressive.
Anyways, big waste of time there.
Do you think this hillbilly elegy thing is true or false?
Cracker Barrel's hillbilly elegy menu in 2020.
All food.
I don't even have to hear any of it.
Yes, you both get a point.
This one was made up by Amelia.
Thank you, Jono.
No problem.
Yeah, thank you, Jono.
All right, two left.
Number six, Wendy's Harry Potter menu back in 2005,
the Triwizard Triple Stack,
Hogwarts Lemon Pepper Onion Rings,
and Dumbledore's Army of Fries.
I was finishing the play again,
but can you just repeat it one last time?
Wendy's Harry Potter menu back in 2005,
Triwizard Triple Stack, Hogwarts lemon pepper onion rings,
Dumbledore's army of fries.
Food.
I'm gonna say, chew.
Mitch takes it.
Damn it!
Here's what, I would have sniffed this one out because-
It's Wendy's, baby.
Wendy's is not gonna do it. Wendy's never does that shit. Yeah, and they're not gonna do it. Well, they Here's what, I would have sniffed this one out because- It's Wendy's, baby. Wendy's is not gonna do well.
Yeah, and they're not gonna do well.
Well, they did just do the SpongeBob thing,
but that was a little out of character.
Wendy's is changing.
But they also- It's not good.
Lemon pepper onion rings is too early in 2000.
Yeah, that's a good point.
I wouldn't have gotten there.
Finally.
Steve-O texted me the other day, Wags,
and it was like,
I just had a spicy chicken sandwich from Wendy's.
It's bad.
So it was bad.
Wendy's used to be my favorite.
Wendy's is gone, Wendy's is low.
This is-
This is another episode.
We'll figure out what's up with Wendy's.
They gotta change, I say this in a pleasant way,
the CEOs need to be tossed out.
Right.
I'm saying that in the-
I'm so very clearly, I do not condone violence in any way.
You know this about me.
I don't like any kind of...
The CEO should leave peacefully.
The CEO should leave peacefully.
Peaceful transfer of power handed over to new leaders.
Yes, yes, yes.
Not tossed out a window.
Finally, this is, and let's see,
it's Mitch has four,
Johnno has three, this is the final one,
this will be determinative.
This is worth two points, so your kids still get it.
Oh, it's worth two points, okay, here we go.
Why not?
Is there a tie breaker?
No.
This one's worth two points.
Okay, this one's worth two points.
Five Guys Fantastic Four menu back in 2015,
the Human Torch Burger, Fantastic Five Guys Cheese Fries,
and Invisible Woman Cookies and Cream Milkshake.
Okay, this is food.
Food.
Absolutely food.
So you both get two points and Mitch wins.
Let's call it a tie.
We'll call it a tie.
Tie goes to the guest.
You got the guest.
One.
All right, fine, I'm North Quincy, you're Quincy.
You're wearing Quincy colors.
Blue and white is the Quincy colors. How about that? Wait, what are the North Quincy, you're Quincy. You're wearing Quincy colors. Blue and white is the Quincy colors.
Huh, how about that?
Wait, what are the North Quincy colors?
Black and red.
Wow, classic rivalry.
Black and red versus blue and white.
That's right.
I will say, that one was a little tricky
because there was a Fantastic Four menu, Mitch,
that we had on the podcast, but it was at Denny's.
That's right, I do kind of remember that.
I feel like I've never heard of Five Guys doing any-
Five Guys does not do that shit. No, they absolutely do not do that thing burger
I remember the thing burger thing burger was good and the invisible woman one had invisible a woman's syrup
It was it was the clear syrup just kind of Peter North onto the top of the stack of pancakes vaguely sexual
Peter North thought of that
Which is by the way from Canada, porn star.
My neurologist is calling.
You didn't answer it?
I mean, yeah, but it's fine.
Okay, well, we're almost at the finish line here.
Just like a restaurant by your feedback,
let's open the feedback.
Today's emails from Jerry from Kingston, Pennsylvania.
Jerry writes, hi Doe family, a long, long time listener.
I've been listening and watching videos
of rug cleaning
and lawnmowers, weed-whackers to help me fall asleep.
It got me thinking what would be some good food sounds,
food prep sounds that would be good listening.
First thought may be the patented chili's fajita sounds.
Good pitch.
I thought of sounds of a fast food or diner kitchen.
Have a few more ideas,
but would be interested in hearing your thoughts.
Shout out to Emma and Jemmy taking the time out a year ago
to respond to a message during a difficult time.
I appreciate you all.
Oh, you're welcome.
That was nice of you.
All right, let's, Jemmy's not here by the way
because of the holiday party.
Yeah, Jemmy's not a party animal.
She's more of an introvert, so.
Yeah, so if you're like, there's no Jemmy here today.
What's going on with my episode?
Where's Jemmy?
Blame the hunks.
They want to have a big party
and so we couldn't bring Jemmy in here
because she couldn't handle all the commotion.
That's bullshit.
Wait, so what does he want the sounds for?
He wants to know what's a good sound to fall asleep to.
A food sound.
I think also any sound.
The fajitas, I mean, he answers his own question.
How about when you get a good pour from a soda fountain?
Oh, that's pretty good.
That's good.
That powerful stream.
Honestly, even just like a...
Psh.
Bup, bup, bup, bup. Oh yeah, that's really good.'s powerful stream honestly even just like a oh
Yeah, that's really good
What about just like boys
Like salt shakers
It's gonna be so annoying
Which is tapping into the microphone. Leave this on.
No, you have to do it like this.
The fuck, he's pretty good at it.
This is really nice.
He's really fucking good at it.
I'm really being very good at this right now.
He's really doing a good job.
Shh, shh, shh, shh. That's salt and vinegar.
What?
Vinegar?
Salt and vinegar is, I like salt and, you know, maybe- I like salt and vinegar.
Maybe, maybe, uh, I love salt and vinegar chips.
Me too.
Lay's, great salt and vinegar shape.
Great salt and vinegar.
Yeah, maybe, well, you're, I think you were saying like a salt shaker or like an oregano
shaker with a little bit more.
Yeah.
Some of that would be good.
How about a, like, like when you get whipped cream out of a can, you get like-
That's pretty good.
That's good. that's good.
How about this one?
A big fat Italian guy.
Pizza's up.
That's fun.
Let me fill out my voting ballot.
Trump, there we go.
I just don't know what she stands for.
I just don't know what she stands for.
Anyway, time to stir the marinara.
I don't know, I can talk there for a second. What else?
What's up with your people, Amelia?
I will say Michael Imperiali from the Sopranos is very vocally anti-Trump.
That's true.
We love Imperiali.
Breaking stereotypes.
We love Imperiali.
He's great.
He's not really Italian.
Noni Mori, he's kicked out of the family.
Any food sounds over there at the dais?
Any food sounds y'all like?
I can't think of food sounds,
but I always like the sound of like,
like when I was a kid and you were like homesick
and I could hear my dad making dinner in the kitchen
and I was just like kind of asleep on the couch,
just like background noise kind of.
Sizzling and simmering.
But like kind of far away, not necessarily right here.
No, that's great.
That's when you think of like boiling water.
Yeah, boiling water.
Boiling water is good, that's good. It's like a simmering ca boiling water. Yeah, boiling water is nice. Oh, boiling water is good, that's good.
Like a simmering cauldron.
How about potatoes getting boiled?
This is our territory, potatoes getting boiled.
Stirring a pot of mac and cheese.
I don't know if that's something you wanna possibly do.
With a wooden spoon.
Yes.
Yeah, important.
That's huge.
I used to hate when, ugh.
Don't even talk about it.
Don't even talk about it.
You know what I'm gonna say?
I know what you're gonna say.
People biting their forks.
Oh yeah, that's bad, that's rough.
I don't like that. I don't like that. Me, I don't like it either. It makes my teeth hurt. I know that's why say people biting their forks. Oh, yeah, that's bad. That's rough. I don't like that
I don't like it either. It's my teeth hurt. I know that's why we're boys. Yep
My sister and I kind of like it
My my dad would do it my sister and I used to hate it
So you see I just see Casey wincing.
It's really, it's a very distal sound.
It's funny, everyone here hates it
because there's so many people that just used to do it.
I was like, why are you doing that?
Why are you doing that?
Who taught you that?
Yeah.
Some people like inflicting pain on others.
My dad would do it like accidentally sometimes,
but still, whoosh. Yeah, sure.
How about this for Arsana?
So that's the person who just took the mic screen off
and was tip-tapting the metal?
Yeah, those people are annoying.
Anyways.
How about breakfast being made?
Like crack of an egg, throw it into a hot pan, you know?
Here's one I want too.
Oh yeah, onions hitting a hot pan.
Yeah, that's one.
Ooh, that's good.
I think Mitch has another one.
Yeah, how about this one?
Mm, tasty.
That would be great if you want nightmares.
Who is that?
Who's that guy?
It's the guy who just had something really tasty.
Tasty.
Time to fill up my palate.
Is that the Little Caesars guy or what?
Pizza, pizza.
Damn good.
He's an RFK guy.
Oh, God.
The Little Caesar guy?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why is the Little Caesar an RFK guy?
I don't know.
I just decided.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. He's damn good. He's an RFK guy. The little Caesar guy?
Why is the little Caesar an RFK guy?
I don't know, I just decided.
Not after making those cookie crumble things.
That's true, that's actually very anti-RFK.
He actually, I mean he Casey to do it.
I don't agree with that.
That was pretty good.
That was pretty good.
The way that...
I don't like how small he is. And. That was good. The way that that.
He thought that, he, I don't like how small he is.
And how he says, it's a pizza.
Oh my God.
Pretty good.
Jono, Jono's an Impressionist.
I don't know if you know this.
I can pick it up on it.
It's pretty obvious.
I've got two Impressions.
You do a great Trump and you do Tom Hanks too, don't you?
You do Tom Hanks too, yeah.
We won't pimp you, as they say,
the word that's been not used any longer,
and I still continue to say it.
Yeah, all right, I'll do Tom Hanks real quick.
I'll be honest with you, I love Little Caesars.
It's so good!
Wow, that was good.
I give it five out of five four
I told he's the man and yeah, you don't get to hang with him as much as I do
We're gonna go to probably quarter sheets alone. You're not I might take a long
If you have a question or comment about the world of chain restaurants
You can email us at feedback at birdfuck.com
or leave us a voicemail at 830-GO-DOE.
That's 830-463-6844.
And hey, to get the Doughboys double our weekly bonus episode
plus our entire pre-2018 back catalog,
subscribe at patreon.com slash doughboys.
Our producers, Emma Erdbrink,
our associate producers, Emilio Moreno,
our engineers, Casey Donahue,
and our video editor is Mike Dorfman.
Our guest today, Jono Wilson.
What a treat, please come back.
Man, how about what if we did Topgolf?
That would be fun.
Ooh!
Now that, I love.
All right, well, we'll make that happen.
He ain't coming, Cousy.
Sorry, Cousy, he ain't invited.
Sorry, Cousy, it's not for you.
It's not for you, yeah, you're gonna give my boy
the stink eye, you're not invited.
You're not coming.
You're not coming. I hope're gonna give my boy the stink eye, you know? Nah, you're not coming. You're not coming.
I hope he doesn't die after like, after this record before the episode comes out. Sure, yeah. Yeah, that would be unfortunate.
Bad timing.
Next episode, it's another bad week for CEOs and Bob Cousy.
Jenna Wilson, Twisted Metal Season 2 is coming soon.
Wendy CEO has been thrown out a window by Mike Mitchell.
Twisted Metal Season 2 is coming soon to Peacock.
Do we know?
Is it 2025?
Do we know a date yet?
They haven't told us a date.
And I can't even guess the date, because I'm just getting
trouble.
That will all be figured out.
Look for it real soon.
2025, yeah.
If you're not subscribed to Peacock, sign up for it.
Support Mitch, support Jono.
Jono, anything else you want to plug?
I'll say this. Hmm. Oh, god. I don't even know what's. We Mitch, support Jono. Jono, anything else you wanna plug? I'll say this.
Hmm, oh God, I don't even know what to say.
We have a lot of fun together this season.
You have students that I know that you're both involved.
Which people are going to really have a strong take on.
I'm not trying to say this super vaguely, but yeah.
Let's just say that-
People are gonna react to it.
They're gonna burn out their their
DVR I don't even know what to say now What I'm like they're gonna rock who they're gonna burn out their their their fire stick their fire stick
There's some stuff. Look, there's some stuff. Yeah
Fuck I shouldn't said anything. Do you want to just say join us to take it again? Look, there's some stuff that will get people horny
There's some stuff that will get people horny. Yeah, I would agree with that.
People are definitely going to react to it.
Jono, anything else you want to plug beyond twist metal?
Nah, nothing.
There you go.
Hey, that'll do it for this episode of Doughboys.
The first episode of 2025.
Until next time, for this Moon Man, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weiger.
Happy eating.
See ya.
Hey, buddy.
Just something, some breaking shoes here we want to add on to the end of this.
I saw a text from Casey that was sent earlier that we didn't get to in the meat of the episode,
but it is very relevant, pertinent to long names.
Big names.
Big names.
Casey says, big name colon, Dikembe Mutombo, Mopilando Mukamba, Jean-Jacques Womutombo.
The full name of Dikembe Mutombo.
Wow. The NBA center RIP.
Wow.
That's a long one.
Georgetown guy.
Georgetown guy, that's right.
Rest in peace Takembe too.
Rest in peace, great career.
Great career.
And I think one last thing I can say is,
who wants to sex the spoon man?
So people may not understand that's a reference to-
I don't, I don't understand that reference.
A thing that Mutombo famously said one night when he went into a bar.
When he went into a bar in Georgetown.
He said, who wants to sex Mutombo?
So that's what Mitch was referencing.
That's amazing.
We're going to get a bunch of DMs that are, I want to sex Mutombo.
I said the Spoon man, damn it.
Hey buddy, want Doughboy's merch?
We're talking hats, shirts, sweatshirts, patches, glasses, all sorts of stuff, aprons.
It's all available at kinshipgoods.com slash doughboys.
That's kinshipgoods.com slash doughboys. That's kinshipgoods.com slash doughboys.
Sources for the intro are in the episode description.
Hi, I'm Caleb Herron, host of the So True podcast now on HeadGum. Every week, me and my guests get into it and we get down to what's really going on. I asked them what's so true to them, how they got
to where they are in life, a bunch of other questions,
and we also may or may not test
their general trivia knowledge.
Whether it's one of my sworn enemies
like Brittany Broski or Drew Fualo,
or my actual biological mother, Kelly,
my guests and I are just after the truth.
And if we find it great, and if not, no worries.
So subscribe to So True on Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
Pocket Casts, or wherever you get your podcasts,
and watch video episodes on the So true with Caleb Heron YouTube channel.
New episodes drop every Thursday.
Love ya.