Doughboys - SushiStop with Alie Ward

Episode Date: January 12, 2023

Alie Ward (The Henry Ford's Innovation Nation, Ologies) joins the 'boys to discuss working set jobs, Franklin Village spots, and the Fancy Nancy bedtime hack before a review of Sushi Stop. Plus, a special sushi edition of A Single Item Must Be Banished. Sources for this week's intro: https://gamerant.com/facts-trivia-history-gamestop/ https://www.companyhistories.com/GameStop-Corp-Company-History.html https://www.thestreet.com/video/gamestop-a-look-at-its-history https://news.yahoo.com/gamestop-bubble-004118907.html https://www.buzzfeed.com/stevenlim/we-tried-3-sushi-and-250-sushi-to-see-if-its-worth-the-price https://sushistop.com/about-us/  Want more Doughboys? Check out our Patreon!: https://patreon.com/doughboysSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Go ahead and click, or if you're on your phone, use your finger. And click that link. Click that link in the episode description. In the 1980s and 90s, video games and computer software were the domain of physical media. And if you wanted to buy a cartridge for Super Castlevania, or a CD-ROM of Microsoft and Carta, you likely went to your local mall to hit up Babbage's. Founded in 1984 and named for the inventor of the computer, Charles Babbage, in 1999, the company was acquired by pre-Amazon bookseller Titan Barnes & Noble and rebranded as GameStop.

In 2005, GameStop acquired rival EB Games, formerly Electronics Boutique, and the merged entity had a functional monopoly over video game retail. That is, until increased broadband speeds and hard drive sizes joined to decimate the physical games market and all but eliminate the physical PC software market. Struggling to remain profitable, GameStop added toys and clothing to become a sort of nerd culture hot topic, though one could argue hot topic itself already fills that need. By the beginning of the current console generation, as both Sony and Microsoft released versions of their PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series S consoles, sounds, disc drives, all signs indicated

GameStop appeared headed for a blockbuster style slow fade to bankruptcy. But in January of 2021, during a bleak stretch of the COVID pandemic, stir-crazy amateur day traders connected by social media gave rise to meme stocks, with GameStop, buoyed by millennial nostalgia, becoming the chief beneficiary. By the end of that month, GameStop's stock was up 3,000% and mobile trading app Robinhood was besieged by bad press and condemnation from both parties for restricting trading on the security. While the price has come down significantly from that ludicrous high, it's still trading

staggeringly higher than its nadir, and the memification of its stock price has given new life to the game seller. So why did a sushi restaurant founded by chef Suji Kumura in L.A.'s Jusotel, Japantel neighborhood choose to borrow its brand name and logo from GameStop? No clear answer exists, although one could speculate it's because both sushi and video games are major cultural exports of Japan. With a downright cheap price point for an often wallet-emptying delicacy, Kumura's sushi bar quickly added additional stores throughout the city and county.

The chain was even featured on a viral BuzzFeed video, entitled $3 sushi vs. $250 sushi. Though I refuse to watch to learn the verdict. Today, with over 10 locations in the greater L.A. area, it may not be as ubiquitous as its video game inspiration, but it certainly has its share of otaku, eagerly sampling its wares. This week on Doughboys, Sushi Stop. Welcome to Doughboys, the podcast about chain restaurants. I'm Nick Weiger, along with my co-host, Stair Wars, The Rise of a Slow Walker, The Spoonman,

Mike Mitchell. Jesus. Do I know who sent that in? That was good. That one. Yeah. No, this is the person who sent that in. As a fellow 1%er with a flight of stairs, I came up with a roast inspired by Mitch's

favorite Star Wars movie, Stair Wars Rise of a Slow Walker, Love the Show, Bill Belozilch on the Reddit, roastspoonman at gmail.com. Hold on, a fellow 1%er? Don't you have to have like a billion dollars? This dude's fucking loaded. Jesus. Only the most successful people listen to Doughboys. We know that's not true.

You're all a bunch of losers. Like, why isn't I? I think I believe Bill is being ironic there, because people are like, like, Mitch is rich in Mitch because he's got a flight of stairs at his town home. But it's like, you know, I think a lot of people have stairs. I think that's what he's doing. Well, I'm backing in Quincy, but you know who I saw on my flight? Who's that, Mitch?

You're not going to believe it. Scrooge. Scrooge himself. You know, we're here in 2023, a happy two-year, the current year is 2023, but we're recording this in 2022, so you saw Scrooge as a stoppicle. You're saying this is like on a date or something? Well, I'm saying that if you're listening to this in January of 2023, you might be like, why is Mitch bringing up Scrooge?

But then you just have to remember, first off, this actually happened to him. So, you know, and then second off, Scrooge has a life outside of Christmas. In fact, that's his main life as far as he's concerned. Yeah. You only know a little bit of Scrooge's life is what you saw from, saw or read with the Christmas Carol. Read in my case. I prefer to read it.

And the Mother Christmas Carol was better. You admitted it's the best version of the Christmas Carol. It is a better version. Yeah, for sure. You know what? The motherfucker was sitting in first-class wigs, Scrooge was sitting in first-class. I said, Scrooge, my man, I was like, Scrooge, my man, I was like, you aren't, you're not regressing on me.

Are you? Scrooge? And he's like, no, no, you got like, are you going back to your old ways? You know what I mean? Right. Yeah. Natural question. And he said, no, no.

I said, all right, all right. I'm just checking. Enjoy your first, first-class flight. Have fun. And I said, wait a minute. Hey, where's, where's Tiny Tim? You know what I mean? He kind of grimaces.

Natural question. Yeah. I look back and coach Tiny Tim's in a fucking middle seat wigs and coach. Oh my God. Tiny Tim's in a fucking middle seat and coach. Oh no. Yeah. I'm like, Scrooge, my man, come on.

Upgrade the man. What's the fucking deal? Your friend's child. Use some fucking, yeah, use some fucking mileage, fucking Delta miles. Get him in fucking first with you. Did you say that to him? I know. I mean, I let him.

I gave him a piece of my mind, but. Did he, did he hit you with a Baham bug? He did. But he Baham bugged your ass. Oh, you know, he fucking Baham, of course he Baham. Of course he Baham bugged my ass. Jesus. Fucking.

He's on cameo, by the way, right? Scrooge is on cameo. Scrooge is on cameo. Get him to say Baham bug. And you can get him and Brian from the office. It's extra if you want those two to appear together. Hey, congratulations to Janie on your graduation from college. This is Scrooge.

Your mom just wanted me to tell you Baham bug. That cost $35. Yeah, right. It was Scrooge, you know, it's fucking more than that. Oh my God. He's a fucking three-figure cameo for sure. Uh-huh. And if it's for business, forget about it.

Cameo for business? Yeah. It's thousands. You know, I said a lot of people get seasonal depression, including me, around Christmastime, Baham bug. That's why I use better help, homo code Scrooge. Yeah, use promo code Scrooge to see if it works, everybody. Yeah, you know, typical wise, but, and you know what else?

The plane fucking, it drove me home. This happened to me before I told you, but the plane just, it didn't fly, it just drove to my house. Doesn't go airborne. Yeah. Just takes highways. Seems inefficient. Yeah.

Anyway. I'd rather be in a car in that circumstance, honestly. You know, speaking of, speaking of cameo, speaking of fans, you know what I found out the other day? What? What's that bitch? This, this, this is real. I'm not, I mean, Scrooge stories was also very real.

Yeah, I know. The part was fake was that him and Brian from the office don't have a joint cameo. That's all. Everything else was real, but the thing that I, that I found out the other days, you know, like, I stand them like, oh, I'm a stand. Did you know that though, that the origins are Eminem's Stan? Did you know that? Yeah.

The etymologies. Yeah. I didn't know that. I didn't know it was Stan. It used to be. It used to be originally me. I'm wondering why Stan. Our guest is nodding along.

And yeah, I believe because it was originally used as a pejorative. It was originally like, you're a stan for this person. You're a stan for Scrooge. You're, you're, you're fucking, you'll defend Scrooge. And then it became reclaimed as like, yeah, I am a stan for Scrooge. I totally stan Scrooge. I think that's what happens. I stan Scrooge.

Me too. He's a good guy. Come on. We, we, look, Wags, how the hell to Spoon Nation? Who got it out while the guest was looking the other way? Don't have to be too embarrassed to buy it. Um, but Emma, let's hit him with a little drop. I got something to say, Wags, and this may be controversial.

Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick. Um. Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick V schematic. That's you. I was going to say, that's me at the end of that. Very good. That was, that was pretty good.

That was quality drop. We've had a stream yard. We got to introduce our guest, but we have, we've had a stream yard upgrade. And, and Emma's, Emma's excited. That's, that's Emma chiming in. She's excited about this. We've quiet, like I got, I, I got excited about, cause I have a new mic too right now. And I said to Emma, I was like, this mic is like awesome.

And I was like, I know. And then I was like, are we like losers? And she's like, it basically said yes. But like, yeah, sure. Nobody knows, but Emma, speaking of door being excited, there's a new stream yard thing and you played that, that drop through stream yard. It sounded good. Usually it sounds like shit for our listeners.

We have a great guest, I'm sorry, for our guests and we have a great guest today. But hey, everyone, uh, we, you can talk, you can say your thoughts on the stream yard to upgrade Emma in just a second after I read this email. Yeah. Hey, everyone, a highlight of my childhood was when our basic cable subscription was accidentally upgraded, giving us access to Nickelodeon and imprinting this jingle on my 10 year old brain. The cable company eventually fixed this mistake, their mistake two years later.

Thank you. Thanks to Brooke for the drop idea. And that's Finke, Chris Finke. Wow. Thanks, Finke. I thought Nickelodeon was a part of the basic cable package, but maybe not. Depends on the package. My parents did not do any, I think you could get like no, like a cable thing

that was like just like local stations. Uh-huh. But my parents would not pay for Disney or any pay channel. Um, and, but Nickelodeon was, we had Nickelodeon like MTV. I think that those were, those were included. But maybe, I don't know, maybe, maybe a fucking, I don't know. Maybe I had a 1% or pack or some bullshit. We should introduce our guests.

Emma, do you have any thoughts on the new stream yard? Look, I'm a complete tech nerd and I love upgrades. So anything that's upgraded and working better, I'm here for it. I just upgraded all of my mastering software and I'm really excited about it. Nobody cares, but I do. I care. I want to know what you're using. I appreciate it.

Is it Isotope? It is Isotope. I knew it. Isotope Ozone, Nectar, I got it all upgraded. Fucking nerd central in here. Allie knows what's up. I get it. I get it.

Our guest, the Daytime Emmy Award winning science correspondent and host of the podcast, Allie's Allie Ward is here. Hi, Allie. I'm here and I, Mitch, I noticed your mic immediately and I was like, he's got money. My first thought, I was like, I'm sorry. That's a, is that a shirt, a seven SMB or something? Help me out.

Emma, help me out. Mitch has the shirt, MV7. Wagger and I both have SM7Bs. Okay. I'm rocking. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What, what is the difference with my mic? Yours is the travel friendly version.

Yeah. Since you're in Quincy, Massachusetts currently. What is, what is, what is, what's, is why I have some sort of upgrade? I want the Y's, Mike. I want the, I want, I want the nice. I will, you know what, Mitch, when we set up your studio and your apartment or your townhouse and your one percenter on your staircase, we'll, we'll get you an SM7B.

When that's finally set up. So ETA 2025, we'll look for that to happen. Right about when the podcast is ending, I think. Good timing. I'll have it for my next podcast. Uh, Allie, thank you so much for being here. And I look, while Emma's in the conversation, we were talking before the, the podcast began about a main crypto zoology slash big foot museum.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Did you not, none of you knew about this? I'd never heard of this. I know, I'm not, I don't know it. No. Okay. I'm very excited about it.

And I will be going. You should be. There's, okay. First thing you need to know is there's two portlands. Once in Oregon, once in Maine. Don't get it confused if you're buying tickets anywhere. Apparently that happens. People get pierced, but.

Wow. Oh my God. It happened. I learned while we were in Portland this year that, uh, the name for Portland, Oregon was between Portland and Boston and they chose Portland, but it was almost Boston, Oregon. What was Boston doing? I don't know.

They're just stealing names. Well, we were, we were, we were, we were around, right? Boston, Boston. Okay. Yes. Yes. I mean, I knew that we were. I was, that was, but, but.

Portland fucking, I mean, Oregon missed out. They should have been Boston, Oregon. That's cool. They might the re, they made the right choice. Cause we have two NBA teams based in Boston, the Boston Celtics and the Boston Trailblazers are in different states. Oh yeah. Confusing as shit.

I would love the Boston Trailblazers. They, they fucked up. I expect more of Portland, like get your own name. You know? Yeah. Right. Not trend. That's not trendsetting at all.

But yeah, there's, if you're in. Yeah, it's not very, it's not very weird. You know, pretty boring. Someone's already doing it already in Portland. But yes, if you're in Portland, Maine, there's a cryptozoology museum there dedicated to Bigfoot and other creatures. I don't know if there's, I, I actually don't know. I don't know if there's like a chupacabra diorama.

I don't know if there's like Pegasus feathers. I don't know what the fuck's going on, but I need to get there. It looks awesome. I'm excited. I'm, there's a plan your visit tab on the website and I am going to be planning my visit while you guys are talking about sushi. Please, please wait for me. Yeah, we also talked about your old apartment building that

swingers was shot in and also haunted. Why? You're just, you're a smiley because you think that I want to bring up my joke, which I do, which was a ghost saying to one other ghost, you're so spooky and you don't even know it. Yeah. I think I said it wrong when I told you the first time. It's better the third time I've heard it.

It gets better and better. Do it again. Like a fine wife. You're so spooky. You don't even know that's a John. No, it's a very good, the tall ghost, the tall Vince Vaughn ghost is saying it to the John Favreau ghost, which also the, so you, you lived in the, in the UCB area, which I still kind of live in.

I have not been to the new UCB, but then there's a, there's more stops on this. If you want, Hey, if you want the swingers tour, you can go over to Vermont and there's a bar in Vermont. Uh, what's it called? Why can't I remember? The Dresden, right? The Dresden.

Yeah. Sorry. I couldn't remember. I just couldn't remember Dresden, which is a great bar. Oh, I was just going to say, like I'm embarrassed that I know all of these swingers landmarks. So I'll like, I feel like I have to confess to like driving a big van around that's like swinger stores.

I remember it well. So there's that. And then there was also a diner, um, I feel like a coffee shop. No, it wasn't one, it wasn't one-on-one where they are in the one, they probably were one-on-one too. But, uh, but I think that there was another diner in swingers. You can bing it wise. I don't know if there's also a diner called swingers.

Like there's a diner chain called swingers. Oh, I don't think it's associated. Maybe that's what I'm confusing is that I got it. Swingers was in swingers and it's cafe one-on-one. I think it was cafe one-on-one. Yeah. Were those some of your, is that some of your old stopping grounds around the UCB area?

Uh, do you know mess hall used to be the Brown Derby? That's where like people used to swing dance back at the day, apparently. I don't know. I saw swingers before I moved to LA. And so I feel like I need to see it again since I've been living in LA. I'd like to appreciate it more, but those were my stopping grounds, but I lived in this building. It was across from Gelsons.

It used to be called the May Fair Market. I don't know if you remember that era. Oh, I remember that. Yeah. This little strip in LA, it's on, it's called Franklin Village. And it's right across from the Celebrity Center, which. The Scientology Celebrity Center. Yes.

We're, Weigur and I had lunch. Uh, or brunch. Yeah, you guys go there a lot for meetings, right? Yeah. Hang out. There's therapists in there. Yeah. My feet and are off the charts these days.

Oh, my God. I see my therapist. I'm holding on to those, those. What are they called? Electrons. Electrodes. Yes. We, we went in there for Scientology brunch for real.

We went in there for Scientology. We did. Really? We turned into content. Um, we had, we had brunch at the Scientology Center. We had, this was several years ago, so we were all comfortable talking about it. And then I joined. It's joined.

And then I joined. Then we made Emma join. She didn't really have a choice if she wanted to keep her job. Um, and. It's a thing now within the Doughboys universe. So they were, we were, uh, yeah, and we went and we told the story of the podcast before, but there's a really, there's a really weird, like sort of like mind fuck thing that happened where they had a huge tray as part of the brunch.

They had a huge tray of hard boiled eggs that we're just out and about, which is a weird item to be in brunch. And they like look kind of gross. And then after you have brunch, you watch a video and the video includes a scene of someone eating a hard boiled eggs and then getting food poisoning. And you're like, what are you doing? What are you trying to do to my brain? What is this psychological prison you're trying to entrap me in?

And, and to what, like, what, what is, what is your, what steps are we taking to get there? It was very strange. It was unsettling. There was also a plate left out of brunch and, uh, there was a little post that said for Xenu. And we were like, is that really for Xenu? Wow.

Um, gosh, I'm, I'm, that's brave of you. And I'm sorry. Have you been able to look at hard boiled eggs the same sense? Be honest. We've eaten them every day since. Yeah. Honestly. Yeah.

Having a lot of them, having more of them. There was a weird thing too, where like a cook, like there's an accident and he like burns his hands. It's kind of gruesome. Oh yeah. Like this wouldn't have, like, if his head wasn't so clotted from this other stuff, like it wouldn't have happened. And it's like, what the fuck?

Didn't they also have robots just accidents? Uh, you might just be thinking of Wagga being there. I thought they had like an omelet robot or something. Never mind. We were talking to an omelet robot in a different context. I'm not sure if it's at the Scientology Center. Maybe it is now. I don't know.

If there was one there, we'd be going back. Um, also, that was my idea a decade ago. I was like, there should be an omelet station manned by a robot. People would love that. That would be the biggest tourist attraction. The working class guy wants everyone to be, every omelet cooked to be replaced with a fucking robot. No, I don't, I didn't say that.

First off, the robot maintenance tax would be, would be given a working wage, obviously, and then also there would be other people working at the buff phase. A robot can't be completely self-sufficient. I'm just talking about specifically the omelet station. If you had an omelet-preparing robot, I think that would be pretty cool. I don't know, Ali, you're a science expert. Your thoughts. I used to be the person that had to man the omelet station for craft service.

That was my job when I first moved to LA. I had to be the person at the omelet station that's like, well, and what would you like on like Jack in the Box and Taco Bell and like Mattel sets? I was craft service for years and I did not know how to make an omelet. And I remember the first couple of jobs, someone took me aside and they were like, like one of the producers was like, I just got to, you should saute the mushrooms first. Do you not know that?

And I was like, I don't know what the fuck I'm doing. I just graduated college. All I know is that I show up here with a cooler full of cheese and you guys cut me a check later, but that was my job is I was. You must be really good at, are you really good at making so stressful? I never make omelets. I never make them hard. I mean, I know, I just, I just don't, I don't practice that kind of self love

in the morning. I think I just go for like a salmonella boiled egg and call it a day, you know, I should, but that was, I was craft service. That was like my first job. And when you work craft service, like everyone shit tucks everyone on set. So you're like, you know, for me, I was like the bottom of the call. She like below the PAs and then it was like craft service. So you just like learn how not to make people gossip about you when you're on

it, just like be nice to everyone all the time, cause they will talk shit about you over yogurt pretzels. Got to be nice. That's wild. Yeah. She, do you know, do you know one of my, one of my first jobs was peeing? I don't know if I talked about this on here, but Jennifer Newsom, I think her name was Jennifer C.

Asybil at the time, Gavin Newsom's now wife. Oh. Oh. Yeah. You worked on one of her movies or something. I worked on one of her movies. Yeah. And the AD, I remember, I remember the specifically wise, you'd actually like this.

The AD was like being like obnoxious and being like, uh, can we get like PA and it was like me and one other PA and he's like, can we get like some PAs here to like, like do this or whatever on set? And we were moving a table for lunch and he was like saying this out loud and like embarrassing us. And then I responded back. I was like, Hey man, we're doing something right now. Why don't you lay off?

Cause he was being a huge ass. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And he was, he was being a huge asshole. And then he was like, what the fuck? Where's Mike Mitchell? And he started yelling that on set and he was like, don't ever fucking. You like came up and started swearing at me.

I was like, I'll fucking walk off this job right now. Fuck you. I was so mad. Also, I was like, almost going to hell. Yeah. But I was like, but I was like, fuck you. Don't treat people. And it was also like this other poor kid that was like, just like a quiet kid who

like, like, shouldn't it be like a mousy, small guy who shouldn't have been yelled at like you. And he was like embarrassing us. And I told him to fuck off. And then later people, Jennifer Newsom was also like, I thought she kind of annoyed me because she was like, I thought you were like such a nice guy. And I was like, I am, this guy was a fucking asshole. But also, but then also later, someone was like, that guy was like going through

a divorce and I'm like, well, don't fucking bring that shit to work. If you're a asshole. Well, what happened? Did you ever be in an asshole? What did he was later? He was like, he was like, I'd hire you. Like the guy was like, I'd hire you again. He like kind of apologized later.

That's what I was going to ask. If you never worked in this town again, did he fight? If you did get 86. Why were podcasting? Yes. Why were podcasts now? But go ahead. Wax, ask your question because I'm sorry for that stupid segue.

No, I loved hearing that. Good for you. And for kind of extra people who aren't as familiar with with Holly, Holly Weird, as I call it, the AD assistant director is usually kind of like effectively the point person on set in terms of like running everything. It kind of feels like that if you haven't been on a set before, you would think the assistant director is the director because they're kind of telling everyone what to do.

But Ali, I'm curious, as a working in craft services, you man the omelet station, well, like what other tasks did you have on that side of the industry? Oh, God. Okay. Here's what happens. You go to the production office, right? They hand you like $1,200 cash, right? And then you have a prep day and you have to go shopping.

You do your Trader Joe's, you do your smart and final, you do sometimes a Costco, whatever. And then maybe you pick up, I used to call it PAVs, pavilions. I'd go pick up cheeses and such. And you'd go and then you'd go home and then you'd make cookies. You'd prep all your stuff for the day before, pre-make your quesadillas. And then the next day you'd get up at like, absolutely, one of those hours that makes you sick because it's so early, like a three o'clock.

And you'd have to get to set first to make that big earn of coffee. And ever, and then you just walk around begging someone to give you electricity to plug this thing in. And then people would start coming in and being like, it's coffee ready. It's coffee ready. It's coffee ready. It's coffee ready. And you're like, I'm making five gallons of it.

And I just plugged it in 30 seconds ago. And you'd try not to cry. And then you'd set out about a snack for people. And then everyone would come and eat and complain about eating and be like, I shouldn't be eating this again. I shouldn't be eating this again. And then you'd take home all the leftovers and you'd eat it with your roommates. That sounds so stressful.

This is so much what my job at The Simpsons was. Obviously not like an on set thing and not as stressful having to make the food. But so much of it was like food delivery and people not being happy about their food. And by the way, Wags, you mentioned 80s, usually huge assholes. A lot of 80s. Often they're assholes, yeah. Like the second sense and like a matzool and a few other people. Kylie, shout out to Twisted Metal 80s.

But a lot of them are. Or are. We work with a guy on Rust. He was a solid dude. Very professional. The. Yeah, that's the thing I always try to remind myself of when I'm like when I like have early travel or like an early job, like, you know, call time at a job.

And I show up and like, like, you know, I'm getting coffee from somewhere. I'm getting something to eat first anymore. I was like, I have to be like, they had to get here before me. Like I'm fucking exhausted. And I'm so fucking tired. And like, I need this to function. And they've already been here for like an hour or more. And then that always makes me feel like I like who the fuck am I to complain about

anything? But it's that sounds like such a that sounds like a tough job. And is it just you? It was just me and I had a whole kit and I'd load up my hatchback with everything. And I remember, though, this one time I went to go pick up money and, you know, it's the first time they're meeting you and you've got to, you know, look professional and stuff. And so I go, I pick up the cash and stuff. And then as I'm leaving the woman's like, oh, I like your shoes.

They're different. And I was like, oh, thank you. And I looked down and I was wearing two different shoes. I had gotten dressed. A punky brooster. Not on purpose. You pulled a punky. That's cool. I sure did.

There were two different black shoes and I did not realize. And so I was it was this moment where right as I'm like leaving with a fanny pack full of thousands of dollars and I'm just rolling out of her office with mismatched shoes and I was like, this is not professional at all. But I went and bought cheese with it because that's what I was there for. There you go. I know Pavilion's really well. I don't think it's bad.

I think it's cool to pull a punky brooster. Sure. Yeah. I didn't notice until then. Yeah, it was an episode where someone gets locked in a fridge. So don't pull one of the. I mean, careful. Don't get yourself locked in a fridge. I don't know why I would bring up a childhood memory

that's very obscure that no one I remember exactly what you're talking about. And it was it was a really good moment of it was one of those times when a sitcom does like a turn and talks about child abuse or like like when Tom Hanks had alcoholism on family ties. It was like one of those. But when a punky's friends got lost and got locked in a fridge. And how many times have you been locked in a fridge since then? None, right?

Quite a bit, actually. I'd say since that episode once a year, probably, but. Could have been twice. It could have been twice. You're right. I think I think that I do think about it more. Ali, wait, hold on. Why exactly? Wait, what are you going to ask?

Yes, because I got some questions. I was going to I was going to change this. I was to change subject. Go ahead and ask something. All right. My questions are, so that's your neck of the woods. Had you ever been to the Dresden? Did you go to the Dresden all and also more importantly, did you go to Mess Hall when it was the Brown Derby?

Because that is like one of the saddest things. I think when I moved to L.A., it was still the Brown Derby at one point. I moved out in 2005 and then. But when I was in Los Feliz, I'm still in the the UCB, not far from the Franklin Strip. I'm not going to give my exact location, but I'm still in that neck of the woods. But I never got to experience the Brown Derby, which I'm like, I feel like they should have made a historical am I mean, at least the original one.

But it makes me really sad that that it's gone. But did you get to experience that as the Brown Derby? I mean, it's a chase bank now, which is pretty reverent and historical. I mean, it's got ATMs in the lobby. What could what could like half of it was a chase chase banks and half of it was a mess hall, right? Like part of it was mess hall restaurant. I think I went once and when it was still like a bar and a restaurant.

So I remember it and and I do remember it from swingers. And I don't think I realized when I moved into that apartment building across from Franklin Village, like, I don't think I realized that it was a swingers building. I just really needed a place to live. And it was seven hundred and sixty dollars for a studio. And I was like, I'm in. Bring it on. But I wonder how much it is now.

Oh, it's some shirts so much. I'm sure it's so much more. But I mean, when I lived there, it wasn't maybe the best, but they've they've made it better. But I worked on the Franklin Strip. Wow. And I met a bunch of friends working there. And I was working on the Franklin Strip when this new theater opened and it was UCB and I remember the way the block changed from this crappy old theater to UCB theater.

And then it was just overrun with guys in plaid shirts. Crackin wise, the whole whole neighborhood changed. But yeah, so I lived across the street from there and I would hold on a second. Yeah, you were working there. We talking birds, La Pubelle. Where were you working on the on the on the Franklin Strip? There's not many options. Maybe I was working at Sushi Stop.

Wow. Wow. It wasn't called Sushi Stop then. It was called Tio. No. Do you remember Tio? Yeah, I remember Tio. Right next door to UCB. I remember I remember Tio was was getting sold in the like UCB had like like toyed with the idea of turning that into a bar or something like into something. And then it became a Sushi Stop.

Yeah. Yes, it became a Sushi Stop. One of one of several Sushi Stops. I'm but I'm curious. But did you work at all at the Sushi Stop during the Sushi Stop era? Was that past your time? No, that it switched over changing of the guard to Sushi Stop. But it was a Tio when I worked there. And it was a very formative time of my life.

And I was also like I also made paintings at the time. And I had my first art show at the Bourgeois Pig, which is this like little coffee shop that has couches that look like they smell like farts and overroasted beans and stuff. But in a charming way, there's people writing procedurals on Dell laptops at the pig. And I had my paintings up there and then worked at the Sushi place and then lived across the street from it and then would.

Yeah. And once actually getting back to that, it was across the street from the Scientology Center. And once I went up on the roof of my building and I looked down and you could see through windows into the Scientology Center. I was like, holy fuck. And I saw these people in like weird uniforms, like black and white uniforms, doing this really slow dance together. And I was there.

I was like, holy fuck, what are they doing? What are they doing? And then I realized after like a couple of minutes that it was a Tai Chi class. It was just and it was not anything ceremonial. And I was like, oh, they're just having a Tai Chi class. But I could see onto the grounds like I could have lobbed a cantaloupe over the fence. I wish it was Tom Cruise dancing with Zinu, slow dancing with Zinu. That's what I thought I was looking at.

I was like, I have to I'm going to have to call a newspaper after this. And then I was like, oh, it's just like a meditation class. But what's the password, sir? Fidelio. Thank you, sir. Wait, Ali, did you ever did you ever hit up the Dresden? I am if people make its closure on the dress. Oh, yes, yes, yes, I want to talk about Dresden a little bit because yes, it has a great cocktail called the blood and sand.

Marty and Elaine, who rest in peace to Marty. Yeah, shouldn't be Smirch's name. But I think Calpacas saw him doing Coke at 80 years old in the bathroom one night. I bet he did. Good for him. For a life. Yeah, good for him. They put a lot of octagonal and antidepressants and stuff.

So that's fine. Yeah, it's fine. You know, they were they were great. I don't know what the show is now, but it's a great it's a great spot. Why it's a great L.A. And I did need closure. Thank you. Yeah. You know what I think about when I think about the Dresden?

I just think white leather. I think of those white leather booths and I think how much gravy they probably spilled on them and they just wipe them right up. I think gravy booth. But yeah, you know, like a watered down cranberry vodka. It's one of those places, you know? Yes. It's like a rum and diet.

OK. Yeah. That's I love that. Hey, it's it and also I think a lot of a lot of a Hollywood royalty through the years kind of pass through their wags. So it's good. Oh, yeah. It was worth getting some closure on. All right. Now, Wags, to your subject change. What do you think of food?

Who me? Boring ass. No, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why I say I eat. I've eaten it before. It's good. Name your favorite breads. What's the bullshit you want to talk about? Mitch is oversimplifying.

I'll talk about my favorite breads. I'll talk about it. There you go. You know, it's good. Make a sandwich on a hamburger bun. Fuck real bread. Oh, hell, yeah. Use hamburger buns. All right, that's fun. Get a potato bun and then your sandwiches round.

There's never one lip flopping because you got a round. You know what I mean? I make sandwiches on hamburger buns. Delicious. And then also you're like, oh, what a treat. It's not a sandwich. It's a hamburger sandwich. Do you bisect them or do you just bite into them like a hole? No, I just carried around like a moon pie, you know,

like a wippy pie. It's great. It's a lot of one of his favorite words by you love. You love you love saying bisect. I do like saying bisect. Do I bifurcate? Do I I truncate my mastercation experience by bifurcating it in along the vertical axis? Hey, I'm a I'm a sandwich thinsman now.

I get the if I I like those a lot. Those are those are have you had those bags? I believe or a wheat does them. I mean, or a wheat has a sandwich thins. I've been all I've been all local bakery. Like I've been all like Bubba and Grandma, which is a which is like an artist. And you've been. And that's about Bubba and Grandma.

I've been going to I'm hitting up Bubba and Grandma. Shout out to our shout out to Tyler. We see at the farmers market and hooks me up with some dank loaves. Sounds artisanal. Yeah, very artisanal. I've been on like Hawaii time, which is bad because I'm on the east coast. Like what are you doing? I don't know. It's bad.

So I, you know, I'm waking up pretty, pretty later than I should be. But like I'm saying, like, if I lived in Hawaii, people would be like, you're going to sleep late. That's the issue is right now. What time? What time did you go to bed last night? Be honest. Well, it's kind of tricky because I. Fell asleep downstairs, writing the Doughboy's holiday special.

That's how good it is, is that it put me to sleep immediately. And then I woke up at one. And this is my issue is that, like, if I don't, if I have, like, any sort of sleep that, like, kept me up for, like, almost till five a.m. Like I went upstairs and then I couldn't sleep for, like, and I only slept probably like an hour and a half from like 1130 to one. And then I went upstairs and I, like, couldn't sleep again till.

Yeah, probably close till five in the morning. So it's a bummer. I know. Not good. You want to know a trick for that? I have a good trick for that. Let me hear it. OK. We call it the Fancy Nancy because my mom's name is Nancy and she invented it,

but I'm only telling you because I use it a lot and it helps. For me, I don't know if this is going to work for you. Don't get mad at me or my mom. I'm it's free advice. So you come up with. I will not get mad at you or your mom. OK, I appreciate that. So you come up with a category like fruits or bands or

movies, superhero movies, whatever. And you start with an A like Apple and you go B, banana, C, cherry, whatever. And you just like do the category game. And it may I just talked to a dream expert who told me the reason why it works is because it switches to this default network in your brain that involves imagination. Anyway, wow, it does stop your thoughts from dealing with like task oriented stuff and just switches to the bullshit like the bullshit part of your brain that's like, all right, and it can help you fall asleep.

So try it. File a lawsuit if it doesn't work. I'm going to try the fancy Nancy tonight. I love it right now. Give it a shot. Yeah, fruits, fruits. Hey, do desserts because we just did fruits. There you go.

Desserts. Do desserts. Oh, desserts. I can do that easy. Hey, yeah. Apple crumble. Good job. Banana fosters.

Hmm. See. Cake. That's it. It worked. Wow. Why does it work? You're welcome.

Wow. You're welcome. There you go. It did actually make me yawn for real immediately. See. That's because my brain is when we were trying to think of just fruits that began with A. I pause and couldn't even come up with Apple. Wow.

I'll try the technique too. I have sleep problems on my own. Shout out to Nancy. Here's what we'll do. We'll take a break. Read it for X for fruit. You're fucking out by then. You're snoozing.

You're snoozing. You're out with a lie. You're out with a lie. You're snoozing. All right. You're already on the Z's by then, buddy. Yeah. All right.

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I would describe this as Mitch kind of a working-class sugarfish. It's like an LA-centric chain. It's not as hoity-toity or certainly not as pricey as sugarfish. It's a funny way to describe it because it was just a sushi spot at one point. I think over time it's become the working man's sugarfish, but at first I wouldn't be like the old working- like when I first opened I wouldn't be like, old working-man food, the Sushi Stop. I wouldn't think of it that way.

No, it's kind of a generic- It's kind of expensive. It's kind of expensive. I mean, it's kind of a gen- like honestly if it wasn't a chain it would feel like- individually they feel like kind of generic retail sushi bars. And there's probably one in your town that's an approximation of what Sushi Stop is, but just trying to give some context for people who don't know it. I have a personal relationship with Sushi Stop and me and my lovely wife Natalie actually

talked about this when we said we were going to review this chain. There is a location of Sushi Stop called in the Sautel neighborhood on the north end. Man, I am pitting. We're on video here and I just realized how bad I'm pitting. I got to keep my arms down. Anyway, yeah, it's fucking- yeah. Anyway, the- wait, did you say it's hot? Yeah, I like it.

You like it? Yeah, I think some people will be into it. I don't think you shouldn't be ashamed of it. I don't want those people who are into it. And also it's hot- it's also hot in your place, I'm sure. You turned the AC off. Yeah, I got everything. They get the windows closed up.

I got the hot lights on me because we're on video. Is it cold in LA now though? It's actually cold. It's actually kind of cold. Let's see them. I see pits. We can show them to us because now it's weird if you're hiding them. Let's see it.

You can see I kind of am kind of pitting like that. That looks good. I think some people are into it. That's pit contour. That's contour right there. That's dry as a desert right here, baby. Well, you got a fucking hoodie on. You shouldn't be sweating through your hoodie.

That can happen. Anyway, I'm pitting. We're at the- so there was a restaurant called New Japan. This is similar to what happened with- was Taiyo. That was what it was called, right? Yeah, so used to be called Taiyo. Yeah, it's similar to what happened with Taiyo, which is that it was a- its own restaurant

and then it got acquired by Sushi Stop. And in- in- at New Japan's case, they completely changed the character of it. Because it used to be this kind of dank in a good way, kind of divey, very low-lit, open till 3 a.m., like headshots of like celebrities, local L.A., you know, like not super famous celebrities. This is a sushi place?

This is a sushi place on the wall. And, um, and like- That's good. What I would usually get there is like a bento. Like they had sushi, but I would more go there and get like a combo of like, you know, and it was a great like late night option. And when it turned into Sushi Stop,

it became the sort of more, you know, brightly lit, just less fun version of what it used to be. So for that reason, I kind of resent this chain. That said, I went in with an open mind. Why? Yeah. It's funny because I kind of resent it too, in a way. And it was because it was gonna be like,

could have turned into something more fun for UCB. Like it could have been a UC bar, UCB, UC bar or something. That's what they were talking about. Sure. Like, uh, or like, I think it was gonna be like the Amy Polars, like Hot Girls Room, which is from a sketch or something.

I like they were, like that was gonna be then, there was gonna be some like sort of like UCB thing. And then it wasn't, and then it was a sushi place that looked like GameStop. Like the sign looks like GameStop, which is another thing that we, of course, have to talk about is that it looks like GameStop. Absolutely crucial detail.

It is the same font and coloration of GameStop, but just says sushi stop instead. Yes. I don't, I don't know why. Which is very, a strange choice. Does anyone know why? No, inexplicable. No idea.

No, no idea. No, it's no idea. Okay. No. And also, so that was the other thing. And then there was an incident where like, in its opening weeks, a bunch of people from UCB, or maybe just in general, got food poisoning from sushi stop.

But this is also, by the way, a decade ago or whatever. This is the Franklin strip. Hey, there wasn't always a, what is that shop there on the corner? That it was, it used to be a Franklin and company. It's not Franklin and company. What the, the Oaks? The Oaks Gourmet. Yes.

That was like a, like, like a liquor store. And like they sold pastrami sandwiches in there. It was great. Oh yeah. So the, that whole block changed once you see, once the flannel, once the flannel men flooded the block. Yes. Things changed over there.

They probably should have put it in a GameStop. I feel like GameStop probably would have done really well. But just slump, slump shouldered men on the spectrum with handshakes like wet paper towels. They would fucking love that GameStop. Yeah. An arcade, something gross, something carpeted. I mean, yeah.

A carpeted bar. That's what we needed. But I, I, I wasn't thrilled about it. And then I did have it a couple of times and like had fun, but it was not like a thing that I went to often on the, on the, on the block. But also, hey, Pritzze's Pizza was a deep dish pizza place while I was there. That went away. I like Pritzze's too, but that went away.

Things changed. So it became Sushi Stop and I had it a few times, but I kind of had a weird grudge against it. I also think just, just to, just to continue. I remember being fine. Yeah. Yes. That, that's what I was going to say.

That's where I was going to land. It's like ultimately my experiences with Sushi Stop, maybe including this one, are that it is fine. But just to speak to it outside of that, you know, the, the microcosm of the, that block of Franklin Village, it has, I feel like, become something of a low-key LA institution. Just because they're everywhere. Sure.

They're in Glendale. They're on the west side. They're ghost kitchens. And they're, they're kind of predictably consistent. Oh, yes. Sorry, Mitch. Is that a term, a ghost kitchen? Is that when you order from one place on an app

and it's, it says it's another? Is that what that is? Yes. It's, very often it will be like, you know, the, the, like the, the, the once, you know, when a bunch of chain restaurants like Buka de Beppo's were shut down for dine in, that would be a way they could use their, their empty kitchen space would be like, they just rent it out to other, you know, businesses.

And there's also some like, there's some storefronts that are just basically like, they just have a kitchen inside and a drop-off window for Uber delivery. And those are functionally ghost kitchens. But yeah, that's the term. Which, and as you know, from, you're so spooky and you don't even know it, I'm very afraid of ghosts, not to bring up. That's right. You're so spooky you don't even know it, Joe, again.

It was good. But I am, I am very, I am afraid of, I am afraid of ghosts. They do have that ghost takariya, right? That you're so spicy and you don't even know it is the takariya, right? That's right. Really? No, it's not. But if it were a ghost kitchen, I don't know.

I don't know what I'm saying. I loved it. I appreciate that. I, I, there's a lot of ha, there's a lot of spookiness on that Franklin Strip. I think that that Scientology Center is, the Celebrity Scientology Center is old. There's a lot of old history. That whole strip used to be, because that, a Celebrity Scientology Center used to be Hearst's, a Hearst Housewags.

Did you know this? William Randolph Hearst. The famous Hearst family. And then, and then, which is also a scary last name to begin with. And then the whole Franklin Strip was, that whole Franklin Strip, including UCB, was like the, the, the stables. Like they're, those were stables. So Sushi Stop was formerly part of a Hearst stable.

No. You know what I'm saying? To give you some Hollywood history. This is true. That's some great Hollywood history. And I heard that they used to roll barrels of alcohol in tunnels under the streets from like the Via Carlotta and the apartment building that I used to live in. Like into the Scientology Center when it was still a hotel, like during prohibition.

I mean, you're in the shadow of the Hollywood sign where people have jumped to their deaths. It's just, it's a spook. Danny Masterson was always around. It was a scary part of town. Well, there was that famous incident where, where that barrel, those barrels were being rolled up and the Donkey Kong got his hands on them. Oh God. And he started tossing them everywhere.

Slung Pauline over his shoulder. I said to the top of, top of scaffolding. There was that Hollywood sign, you know, famously people jumped off of it. But then also that one timer was changed to Holly Weirdwags, as we know. That's true. That was, yeah, that was the famous incident. And one time we're lightning struck it and it lit up. That also happened.

We all remember that. And then also right down the street, you have the, the, the, this is true. This is true. Like all the other facts, but the Hollywood Tower of Terror is right down the street, right across from the cafe 101. There's a lot of stuff going on here. Goosebumps, whole place. Was our meals scary?

Was did we, did we eat some scary food as the question likes? Well, well, I want to back it up for one second because Ali, I do want to hear a little bit more about your experience working at Taiyo. So how long did you work there? And I mean, what was it like to work at a sushi restaurant? Oh, okay. So I was, I had a friend who worked there, but she was my boyfriend of the times ex-girlfriend. And she used to work there.

Natalie loved her. And the first time I met her, we went into Taiyo and I accidentally spilled a bowl of soup on her crotch and I was mortified. And I was nervous and like I was high and just like dashed it off the table and I was like, couldn't have gone worse. But we stayed in touch. I broke up with that boyfriend. So now we were both exes of the same guy.

I needed a job. She's like, come work here. And so Taiyo only employed usually girls. There was one guy that worked there. Some of the girls that worked there were Scientologists and actresses. So they were in the neighborhood. And you kind of didn't know when you were, when there'd be like a new girl, you weren't sure, you kind of had to feel it out and be like, have you ever been across the street?

And if they were like, okay, good. Yeah. How are your Theatons doing today? But we'd get customers, sometimes it would ask us about it. And if they were, if they were dicks or whatever, sometimes if they'd ask us about the Scientology Center, we'd be like, if you ever want to tour, just let me know. And then they would leave us alone. But you just pretend like you were Scientologist.

But so yeah, we worked there obviously for tips. The tips were good because back then it was more expensive and it was sushi. So if someone's buying pancakes for $9 versus a sushi meal, your tips are just going to be better on the, on the fish stuff. And there was a full bar and we had to bartend and the drinks were not good. They were like Hershey's syrup and Bailey's and vodka. And it'd be like a chocolate kiss. And you'd be like, why is that I maybe would both like that drink?

I feel like I'm overselling it. I feel like it kind of sounds good. But imagine if you're drinking out of one of those really like those sex in the city martini glasses where it's like, you're going to spill half of it anyway. Right. And it's like two, maybe two boozy to even have chocolate in it or something. Yes. And then the bottom, it's just like some chocolate chips that are still room temperature.

And you're like, well, do I dig these out with a finger that's got soy sauce on it? Or do I put my tongue in there? Like you're, maybe you're on a date. It's not, it's not good. I'm getting those chocolate chips no matter what, but I agree. You've got to get them. Use the other end of the chopsticks and get it and get in there. You paid for them.

That would take me like three hours. But now I got a question for you. You said it was your friend's name Natalie. Yes. Yeah. And you had a big spill. Well, things are getting spooky here because Weigar's wife's name is Natalie. Weigar had a big spill happen at his vis, on his visit.

I'm a notorious spiller. There was a spill that happened at my visit that was not my responsibility, but I was in close proximity to it. This was between two servers and the service there was lovely. Everyone was very nice. And I went to the original location, I believe. I went to the one, one of the, there were like three on Sautel. I went to, I think the original location on Sautel.

Anyway, the guy who was serving me was checking in. And ironically enough, this was, like we're, all, all soup is going on here. I had ordered a miso soup that never came. He came by to be like, Hey, did you ever get your miso soup? I was like, Ah, no, I didn't. And, but I'll, yeah, I'll take it if you, if you got it. And, and also ordered something else. And he's like, okay, got it.

Turned around, just as he turned around, another server was walking behind him with two bowls of miso soup herself. And he made full contact and they both like fucking turned upside down. And just soup was everywhere. None, I didn't get any splash damage, thankfully. But I believe I may be somewhat karmically responsible just because I'm always spilling. And I think that energy was maybe just, you know, radiating off of me. However, I do also think that the other server should have said behind.

And she did not say behind. Behind is, it was a, it was a massive spill. Behind you, behind is just a funny thing, I guess that you got to say. Emma said that you said it in the, and when you were a bartender, right? Emma, you, it's like, it's a safety thing yet. Cause like you got chefs walking around with knives. You turn too fast. You can get stabbed.

Like you got in hot pots and stuff. Like you have to say it. Like I still say it. I haven't, we're haven't bartended in eight years. I still say it. They're going to replace the word behind just sounds dorky yelling. Well, cause you're coming up behind people. Or you say corner when you're turning the corner or door.

If you're going through one of those swinging doors, you'll yell door door. Yeah. That was not part of my training there. Nor am I omelette making. I worked at a restaurant where the bar I worked at was I had to go down the, it was an open kitchen. So I had to go down the, the lying, the cook line and like buy a pizza oven and around the chefs to get to my bar.

So I was like constantly walking through a like active hot kitchen. And like, if I didn't say behind, I was like murdered literally. Yeah. That's good. I mean, they should, they just got to come up. It's like saying fanny or something. I like, they should just need to have a better word than behind. Yeah.

They need to have a better word than behind. Why? I think behind is fine. What about beep beep? Are you thinking behind because it's like you're behind not like I'm behind you? Yeah. Not even, I just, I mean, yes, I guess I am thinking of that. But also it just sounds dorky.

And they got to beep, beep, beep works great. Beep beep. Beep beep. That's great. That's not dorky at all. Beep beep. That's great. Beep beep.

I'll call every restaurant and let them know. Thank you. Wags, I said that, I told you this, but I said that kind of like unbreakable, you're kind of, you kind of have an unspillable situation. And you're Mr. Spilt, like Mr. Glass. They used to call me Mr. Spill. Mr. Spilt is just around people and they spill things because that's, why is the worst spiller I've ever met in my life?

And I didn't even know that I could rank Spillers until I met him. He spills all the time constantly. So I do think that you are, what, you're going to, you're not going to argue with that. I fully agree. I spill, I spill frequently, but you know what? I don't spill my guts. I'm tight lipped. Yeah.

So that's, that's what, that's what I got going for me. That's, that's gruel. I'm fucking, I don't rat on my fucking friends. I do. I love to spill my guts. You actually do, I think you do love to, to, to tattle. I love to dish, baby. Let's dish.

It's that, it's that so, because you work with like, like everyone in your family is an education. So I think that's what it is. I think you just like, you love that, you love telling teacher that someone did something wrong. Shots fired at fucking all the teachers in the world. I don't, I don't know. I'm not a tattle. I think you are a tattle. I'm a guy in the, I'm, I'm, I'm the kid in the back of the classroom talking about what's

going on in the schoolyard, baby. Yeah. That's what I am. Not a fucking tattle. I'm not telling on people. The mark is different. Oh yeah. I'm not a narc.

He's no narc. Okay. Well, I'm not a fucking narc either. I'm, I'm no narc. You're a fucking narc. Loose, you're maybe loose lips, hot goss. There you go. Yeah.

I'm a loose lips, hot goss. That's, I'm fine with that. Wigs. I got, I got, uh, maybe I got my, uh, order. I got my order to go from sushi stop. I didn't want to go to use the Franklin strip. I've eaten in there plenty of times, but I got, I got my order to go. Which I thought was like, I was like, there's no way this is going to be all right.

It weirdly, they weirdly did get, I think they got everything right. But I think they didn't give me any soy sauce or any, um, uh, greenie, spicy greenie. Also known as a wasabi. Yeah. Spicy greenie. That's, look, we gave up beep, beep replaced behind. And I thought spicy greenie could maybe replace wasabi. I forgot the name of wasabi, but they didn't give me any wasabi or soy, soy sauce in the

delivery, which I thought was bizarre. That is bizarre. But, um, luckily some of the stuff I got didn't, didn't, should we, should we start naming? Yeah, let's, let's get into it. Ali, what, while you were working at, at Taiyo, like, what did you overall think of the, like the, uh, like that as a sushi production operation and did it change your thoughts on sushi at all, like for better or worse? These are good questions, good, good, good questions.

So I didn't have my first sushi till I was in college because I was like most, you know, um, suburban white people unsure about eating raw tuna. And then I had a California roll, which is not, it's barely fish. And I was like, I can hang with this. I love these. And so when I started working at Taiyo years later, I was like, I'm down for this. I could, I could eat all the miso soup in California rolls and maybe even raw stuff that I could handle.

And also at the time I was very poor. So, uh, you could use your employee discount if you were feeling honest, you could put in orders and say they were for table seven and then eat them yourself if you were not feeling honest. And we had to work really hard there because we did not have a cashier or a host at the time or bus people. So sometimes you would be in charge of the whole restaurant and you would be everyone's and a bartender at the same time.

So you'd just be like an octopus and you just, it just things flying everywhere. It'd be like ballet, uh, mixed with like a fire drill every day. And I remember at the time I wore like a little pedometer. I was trying to get my step count up and I'd get 17 K man, 17 K a shift. That's wild. That's crazy. I got guns from lifting cases of Sapporo. So it was a good workout.

But you know what's funny is that one of my only memories of being in that place before sushi stop was having a Sapporo in, in that place. And I think of a little bit of a little, a little sushi. I don't know if this is before or after your time there, but I was, I was in there at one point. Everyone was sushi stop. Yeah. Yeah, I definitely went to Taiyo. Those hungry flannel boys.

Hungry flannel boys. And what would happen to is the line for UCB would line up right in front of our, yeah, in front of our patio. And so you'd see everyone waiting and sometimes you'd see guys that were in the line one year and then they'd be headline in the show for on a some Monday night, 6 PM improv. You know, you're like, you love, you do quite frankly love to see it. And I'm proud of you flannel guy. I was, I did feel that way.

But when, when, when UCB first opened, here's the thing, this is back right before Yelp. So you could get away with a lot because no one could nark on you. There was no one, the hot, the loose-lipped hot guys could not reach you. You were, it was, you were, you were free. And so we were bad servers. We weren't good and that was fine. And some nights we'd be so busy, people would come in asking for a takeout and you'd be like, fuck off, go to Mayfair and get a salad.

Like, can you see I'm crying? And I, there's just one guy that would come in and he was always kind of grumpy. And he, I'd always be like, we're not doing to go today. And he'd be like, well, I got it yesterday. And I'd be like, oh, weird, because we don't do to go. And he's like, what are all those to go containers right there? And I'd be like, we don't really do it. He'd grumble away.

And I realized later it was Matt Besser. And I was, he probably fucking hated me. He hated me. Every time I see him, I'm like, God, I hope he doesn't remember that. I doubt he does. I love Besser. I love the best man. That's very funny.

Man, the worst. That's very funny. By the way, Wags, that line being outside in front of the sushi place, if my boy Wags was in the show, that line was around the corner at Oak's Cormay, babe. It was around the block. Tailwaggers. I'm not going to tailwaggers. We got a crowd in front of tailwaggers.

My boy Wag was in the show. Now, more like tailwaggers. Sorry. Wait, what's that? Tailwaggers. More like tailwaggers. That's all I was saying. You were tailwashers over tailwaggers?

No, I said, Wags are performing around everyone's tailwaggers. More like tailwaggers. That's all I was saying. Remember it was tailwaggers and tailwashers? There was two of them. It was both, yeah. It was both. Confusing.

I'm, Allie, like you, I would not, I would not touch. I did not, hey, raw fish, that was not for, I'd rather drink a gallon of water from Camp Lejeune in 86, babe. Bub, I should have done Denise Miller. I created a character named Denise Miller on a previous show. Yeah, which is a lady version of Dennis Miller. But she still sounds like you. Yeah, it's just, by created character, I just changed the name of Dennis Miller to Denise Miller.

And she still has the same standards of water quality that you do, I imagine. As do we all, as should we all. And that's a self-protective measure and that's good. But yeah, I wasn't down with that. Just seeing a lot of Camp Lejeune commercials. Yeah, I was not, I was, I've said this on the podcast before, Sushi was, Sushi was not a thing that I had much growing up. And I remember like, when my dad had it, it was like, oh, raw fishing, I was whatever.

I was 16 or 17 or whatever the first time I tried it. And I liked Wasabi. And then he would buy me like, I remember my dad buying me Wasabi peas. And Wasabi peas would be like a, like a stocking mainstay. The season just passed, but I would get like Wasabi peas in my stocking. And then, but like sushi was tough because to me it was like the texture. And I was like, this is like gummy. And also it probably wasn't great sushi, which I later had, which hey, why?

Do you want to give crap to sugarfish? But sugarfish is a great gateway for, for people who are so, so on sushi. Yeah, it's a great, it's a great chain version of it. It's, it's like, it's like a cheesecake factory of sushi. But yeah, you can find, you know, like LA is a fantastic sushi town. Lots of great Japanese food in LA. That stretch where sushi stop has three locations. Yes.

Japan town in Sautel has like so many like ramen shops and, you know, Udon shops and, and, and sushi, sushi places, yakitori places. It's just like, it's, it's got, there's a lot of great options. Wags, my first gateway to sushi is Allie, probably your old restaurant, and sushi stop. I mean, like, wow, that's, that's, yeah, because like, you know, people were in, in especially with sushi stop. I mean, just your place next door, cause it was convenient and people were like, let's get sushi or whatever.

And then I would get like more like kind of like, like would try a California roll. Get a bento with a, you know, a pretty safe four piece California roll. Maybe next time you'd get a spicy tuna roll. And then before you know it, you're like, bring me the Mackerel. Right. Never. You know what I mean? 100%.

So much so, Jeff Dutton and I wrote a parody video for California, you know, California love. You remember that? We don't want for a California roll. We were going to do a video for that. Look, the content back then wasn't great either. But we, we, we were trying to make stuff. And I was having sushi for the first time and you're old. What is it?

What is it called again? I have to give her credit. Taiyo. Taiyo. Taiyo. Yes. Yeah. Taiyo is, Taiyo is definitely, uh, it's confusing because there's a popular place

called toy, which is Thai food on sunset. I know. Confusing. The Bay of Margera used to like hang out. Like some of the jackass guys. But anyways, sushi stop, I think even more so because it is kind of like stupid sushi in a good way. It's like, you have a lot of fun dumb sushi there that's like cream cheese and like fried chicken. And you're like, all right, that's easier to eat.

And I got some of this. And the crazy thing is, is that like, that stuff is bad. Like having it, eating it now. I'm like, this is like the worst, like one of the worst things I ate in the entire menu. But for people who are afraid of it, it's like, oh, that's like an easy introduction to it. And then like you're saying like, oh, you get like a spicy tuna roll or california roll. And then they do stuff here with like, they put like fried onions on top of the california roll or whatever, stuff like that, which makes it easier to eat.

Yeah. Here's some menu option that I think is a great example of what you're saying, Mitch. They have one of their specialty rolls is the chicken crunchy roll. It's cream cheese, avocado, cucumber, sriracha, crunchy flakes, and teriyaki sauce. So you don't even have fish involved. It's like something that would be at a Guy Fieri restaurant. And guess what? I got it.

The Burbank airport. I got it. It's Guy Fieri approved. For sure it would be in the Burbank airport, 100%. It, it's, and here's the deal. It wasn't good. It was like one of the worst things I had. There was four pieces of it.

I ate one piece of it. I didn't eat the rest. I threw it away. Oh, so it's, it's not, it is not, it's not great. Well, you didn't have any hot chunks. You didn't have any wasabi. That's what we're fixing. My little hot chunks.

Yes. I needed, I needed, I needed some, I needed some little hot chunks. I didn't have it. And I needed some, so I obviously needed some soy sauce too. It was some of the sushi was a little bit of a disaster, but I started, I started with, I got a diet coke. Why? It's just to put it out there. I started with something.

I'll start, I'll start with my apps. I got pan fried gyoza and I got a, I got a tempura bowl because I was like, what is this tempura bowl? This crazy tempura bowl, which just looked like a bunch of like tempura, fried tempura vegetables and I think a piece of shrimp on top of white rice. And that actually is all it was. There was like nothing, there was nothing really special to it. It was, it was a weird combination of like,

I thought there would be something more to it and there really wasn't. But honestly, the tempura was pretty good. There was one piece of, there was a few pieces of like fried vegetable. I think like maybe a yam or something. And a pumpkin. Yeah, it was good. I mean, and then a fried piece of fish. And, but then basically just like white rice and they came separately,

but it was just like, oh, so there's just like, you put this on top of white rice and then you, and also no sauce for that one. They didn't give me any sauce for it. So I use my gyoza, the leftover sauce from the gyoza. But I think that they did a decent job with all, with all the fried stuff. They, they, they, they did a pretty good job. It just was this sort of thing of like, all right, I ate all these,

this fried stuff and now there's just a bowl of white rice and I poured some stuff. And I was trying to eat it as like a, as like a one singular dish, but it was kind of hard to do. The pan-fried fried gyoza was, was good. I mean, they did, they did a good job with that. And it was nice and crunchy and pan-fried and, and it had some, a little maybe soy sauce. I don't know what it was.

It feel like it was like maybe garlic soy sauce or something, but it was, it was decent. And it was pork gyoza, I believe. So far I'm two for two. I got the same things. Wow. Really? Yep. Two for two, baby.

What were your assessments of those? So what made you, so what made you get that? What, what made you get the, the, the whatever bowl there, the? I'll tell you. And one thing we haven't touched on yet, price point. It's a poor bowl. Yes. Yes.

Price point people. What the thing about the working man's sugar fish. So sushi stop, the gateway chain sushi restaurant. For so many, Angelinos, most of the rolls are like 325 or something? They're like a set price that's cheap as fuck and it's not that bad. And so other than half of UCB getting food poisoning, for the most part. Which some of them deserved, honestly. Who knows where that's from?

You know what I mean? Maybe they asked for it to go and someone wasn't in the mood. That's not their fault. But the price point is damn affordable. And if you're like, I need a lunch in a bento box or I need to treat myself and I don't want to spend $200. You can do a little damage and still walk out of there paying less than you might at, you know, a cheesecake factory or, or something like that.

So, so price point. Or even just an independent sushi restaurant, like a one off. Yeah. And in the thing about it is like, and I was talking to my husband about this is like, when it comes to sushi, you want like really, really good. Like you'll regret paying this much later, but right now it's wonderful. Or you want like high volume quality stuff. You don't want that middle range where it's like $14, $15 a roll,

but it's not even as good as sushi stop. And you're like, like this like fake good. It's like, just go for the cheap stuff. Like go for the conveyor belt, go for the sushi stop, where they at least have volume on their side, where they sell so much. The fish hasn't been there since like Thursday, you know, like chances are they got it that morning because they do volume at least. But so sushi stop is definitely on the, it's cheap.

Try a bunch of stuff. But so the price point on the tempura, $5.60. I was like, okay, I don't know why it comes with this rice. It's already fried in bread, but okay, I didn't eat the rice either. Just sat in a bowl on the side. So some fried vegetables, a fried shrimp and some rice for five bucks. You know, that's cheaper than a Carl's Jr. burger in some parts of the United States of America people.

A hundred percent. Sure, a hundred percent. The $5 burger is like 10 bucks. Why, because we know this. Nothing makes sense. Upside down, worlds upside down. So I was like, all right, I will roll the dice. It's on the boys.

It's like, you know what I mean? I'm getting this on the boys. It's their $5.60. And I got the gyoza because gyoza are great. Don't come at me though with like a fried gyoza. I want the pan fried gyoza. Deep fried gyoza are such a waste of oil. Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, if it's lightly fried on both sides, I'm in. But if not, I don't need it in the deep fryer. I don't need it. And then, yes, I did repurpose the gyoza sauce on all kinds of stuff. So I love a gyoza sauce. It's a little bit tangier. And I don't know why. I don't know what they put in that yuzu or something.

Vinegar. Yeah, I don't know what the gyoza sauce is exactly. I'm not sure if it's a ponzu sauce or if it's its own thing. I spread that out over. I also am now leaning back and I've kind of like meshed into the couch while we're doing video now. I just want to point out that I know I look like shit now that I'm laying back, but it's worth it for me to just relax.

You oddly look like monochrome. Like, you look like there's no color in your reality. Like, are you in Pleasantville? I think possibly. I think I possibly got Zaft for Pleasantville. Oh, boy. What happens in Pleasantville? Like, they like kiss and then.

Yeah, then they turn to color. Your saturation knob. You got to fiddle with your satch knob. I think sadly, this is just the Quincy basement. I think this is the natural tone of the Quincy basement. First of all, I know what you're saying as far as, hey, this is $5 is like one of the cheaper things in the menu. You get a piece of fish.

You get some fried vegetables. That app goes a long way. It's just a funny thing. And then also, the gyoza pan fried way to go in that sauce. I just, I used it as much as I could. I like that, especially with no soy sauce and no spicy lumpies or whatever the fuck I call it. That was a huge hot chunks.

That was like a huge, that was huge for me, that gyoza sauce. But I thought both of those pretty good. I was enjoying myself. I didn't get any tempura. I did, since I was eating in, I wanted to get a miso soup, and which I got at the end of my meal because they forgot it. And I just, I've had this miso soup from different places a thousand times in my life.

It was a perfectly replacement level miso soup. Could have used a little bit more tofu, but it just, it tasted the same as any place. I got a green tea that was fine and I got a green salad. My issue with a green salad is so much tomato. It was like they just dumped a huge heaping handful of pico de gallo on top of my salad. It was way too much, and I ate all the greens,

and I ate all the carrot, and then there was just like a big pile of tomato still left. Because I can't finish this. I don't know why there were some tomato heavy. A Japanese style salad too, you would expect there to be kind of less tomato maybe? You know what I mean? Like at least in my experience,

I feel like it's not like a tomato heavy salad. Yeah, it was strange. Yeah, I mean, it was, but it was fine. It was completely fine. How was the dressing? How was the dressing? I mean, it was like a totally typical like sesame dressing. Nothing particularly to it.

Well-dressed though, decent amount. Sometimes you get at a chain of your sort of place, it's just kind of like doused in dressing. This wasn't the case, it was well-balanced. So yeah, I thought that was solid. Should we get into the sushi side of sushi stop? Let's do it. Yes.

So I got one of their... Yeah, go on. Go for it. There you go. No, you go. You wise you go. All right, I'll go. Beep, beep.

So I got a... I got a yuzu albacore roll. This is one of their fancy rolls that's got a garlic ponzu sauce. It's also got some crispies, which I knew I was probably going to get some roll with tempura, which is why I didn't order tempura. This has some fried onion, also spicy tuna, cucumber, sriracha and cilantro.

This was nice. I mean, the yuzu citrus did a lot. I could have used a little bit more heat. You know, I'm a bit of a heat seeker, and I do really go heavy on the wasabi, but that's a different sort of heat than you'll get from. You know, it's a different sort of spice. But yeah, I dipped that whole thing of wasabi into my...

That whole little ice cream scoop of wasabi into my dish and with some low sodium soy sauce. And yeah, I thought this was a quality roll. I also got an avocado cucumber roll. I like to try the veggie roll from places just to see how it holds up. When I was eating vegetarian, I actually found sushi restaurants were pretty reliable

in terms of, oh, I can get a bunch of stuff that's fun and tastes like what I'm used to eating, but just without any animal proteins. And, you know, could have used a little bit more cucumber here. I thought it was a decently made roll. Honestly, kind of flavorless, but if you just think of it as a soy sauce and wasabi delivery mechanism,

totally got the job done. I do think the nigiri side of the menu was pretty decent here. I got a tuna sampler sushi, which had three different types of sushi, including like a fattier, like sort of more Toro. I thought those were all high quality. Salmon sushi, this might be to Ali's point in terms of just like, you know,

they're going through a lot of product. It tasted very fresh. It was well executed. And I love a freshwater eel. And I got that freshwater eel and it was delectable. Honestly, if anything, I underordered. I think that was my main issue here because I usually overorder at sushi places.

I'm like, I'm gonna back it up. I'm gonna slow things down a little bit. And then by the time I got through everything, I was full, but I was like, you know, I was like 80% full. And I probably could have honestly had more, but I was just kind of like, I feel like I get it. And it was the middle of the day and I didn't feel like being super heavy.

So, but I could have had, I could have ordered more food. Go on, Mitch. Well, I agree with you with the nigiri side of the menu being good. That was one thing. Very solid. Which I did not think was going to be good, but it was, it was pretty great. And almost comparable in some ways to sugar fish.

It was, it was like the nigiri I had was really good. Also, letting you go first kind of had the same effect as the category game that Allie taught me, where I think that maybe I should just have you, maybe just call you up and have you talk to me, Wags. Put me to sleep every night like a baby. Hey, buddy. So...

This category is fish. I mean, hey, albacore. Just snoring out of my mind. Fast. Well, Wags, I got a hand roll. And so, I want to quickly talk about my hand roll because you also got a hand roll. I was afraid...

No, I went with cut, I went with cut rolls. I didn't get any hand rolls. I'm a little bit of a hand roll skeptic. You're going to be honest. Well, I was a hand roll skeptic too. And I also was like, when I ordered this, I was like, this is going to be like gross. I think this is going to be the grossest thing I eat.

Speaking of tomatoes. And Wags, it was maybe my bite of the night. It was maybe a thing I liked the most. But I got the Sashimi Saviche Hand Roll. And I really liked it. It was... Fawzy. I really thought it had a nice flavor to it.

It looks like it's not going to be good. It looks like there's maybe too much tomato in there, but it really worked well. The fish flavor was nice. And the Sashimi Saviche and the tomato and whatever the dressing was, it all kind of worked really nice in the hand roll. It was great.

Very surprised by that. But I think what maybe wins my bite of the night Wags was the Nagiri. And I got myself... There were a lot of two-piece Nagiri's, but I got the Yokozuno Trio Sushi. Which has... By the way, I was just going to say real quick,

I think this is another thing to Ali's point in terms of affordability and price point. They do do the... You can get these trios, and they're like seven bucks, and you get three pieces, and they're three different types. So if you want to sample a few different ways, that's a great way to go, especially as a solo diner. Sorry, continue, Mitch.

So I think that in the Yokozuno Trio... Yokozuna Trio, which is... Is there a city called Yokozuna? There was a wrestler, Yokozuna, I know that. Yeah, Yokozuna, I believe that's a Sumo term. I think it's like the champion Sumo wrestler. Yes, the Yokozuna. Yeah.

I'm a fool. So anyways, there's... It looks like... I think that you could probably tell me what's in the Yokozuna Trio, which is... It looks like... Salmon. Salmon?

This is hard. I think it's a salmon, a halibut, and a tuna. It's possible. That's a toro, but I think that's just a regular tuna. Salmon... Could be a yellowtail as well, in the middle. It feels like it's tuna, right? Yeah, tuna, yellowtail, and salmon.

Anyway... That sounds right. Yeah. Sounds right. The nigiri was great. You got a red, you got a white, and you got an orange. So I think that's what we're talking. Thank you.

That's what I should... That is... I'm shocked I didn't say that, honestly. Thank you, Allie. You put it into Mitch Speak, which was helpful. So again, I didn't have my chunky spicy, and I didn't have my... I keep saying it differently, but I didn't have my soy sauce. Fire paste.

We call it fire paste. I didn't have my fire paste. So I was like, is this just going to suck to eat? And why is it... Didn't eat any of that? I just tossed that in my mouth with the natural... Whatever they put on there, which maybe they've squeezed a little lemon juice on there,

or whatever they put on it, it worked great. It had a great taste to it. It was great tasting. I loved it. It was really decent nigiri. I was shocked. Can I say this as someone who... Like, I like sushi.

I get it less than I used to, but I do... You know, it is a treat for me, and Natalie doesn't love it. So, you know, she's a very daring eater, but like, it's just not her favorite. So I will go oftentimes solo. And as a... So as a solo diner at a sushi restaurant, funnest it at the sushi bar, feels very welcoming there.

And then, talk to the chef. You can just ask him if each individual piece like, hey, should I put sauce on this or not? Because they'll tell you what needs sauce. And a lot of times, I feel like, you know, there's a tendency to just dredge everything in soy sauce and wasabi, but that's not always the case. You don't always need to do that.

But yeah, this is... Yeah, I will say it at a remarkably decent experience here. Allie, I want to hear about your sushi or anything else you got. Well, I've been ordering from the Pasadena location on Grubhub over the pandemic. Usually, my husband and I, if one or both of us have been smoking substances that make us very hungry, we will order from Sushi Stop.

And I realized that... We realized we did it once and we're like, look at this, we're going to eat all this stuff, right? We get two of us. We get four Diet Cokes. Because maybe you want two, maybe you're going to have the next one the next day. Fucking whatever.

Why not? I love this. Allie, it's a great move. I do it myself. Does each Diet Coke... The Diet Cokes cost $2.80, almost as much as three, whatever, like three, four pieces of sushi, which is hilarious, but whatever. And they always send you the number of chopsticks as beverages you get,

so we always... They're always like, oh, there's four people, no, there's not. But we did it the first time and we were like, what luxury? This is the best day of my life. And then the next time we went to order it, we're like, let's do it again. And I realized on Grubhub,

they make it so all you have to do is press two buttons. You get on Grubhub, they're like, do you want the same shit you got from Sushi Stop last time? And you're like, kind of. And they're like, press this button. And that's the prompt too. That's the prompt, exactly what it says. And then it's like, if you're thinking about it, press one button.

If you want to pull the trigger, press the second button. And before you know it, you've got the same order coming to you. And so over the pandemic, we started calling Sushi Stop two buttons because we were like, do you want two buttons? We're like, let's just press two buttons. That's good. All I got to do. And like 35 minutes later, I've got a salmon collar on my doorstep

and if we're working, my husband also edits my podcast. So if we're working, it's like, this one's on the company. Just like it's on you. This last one is on you guys. Sometimes it's on me. And so my two buttons usually involves a couple of dynamite rolls because I like a baked sushi and I'm never going to eat that much mayonnaise if I'm cooking something.

But if you toss five scallops in one cup of mayonnaise and you put it on a California roll, I'm down to clown. But I'm never going to do that to myself. I'm never going to make that decision cooking. So I get some dynamite, get the dynamite scallop roll. I get the baked salmon roll, which is again just salmon doused in mayonnaise, a top of four-piece California roll. I get this scallop.

Do you guys ever get that? Wow. Yeah, I do get that sometimes. I've had that at sugar fish quite a few times and I like it a lot, but I didn't get that sushi stop. But that's good. I think that's always tasty. I like the little guy.

There's a small place in Santa Monica. I don't know if it still exists, but that was a place where they always had the, it's called Sushi King and that was the place where the chef's from Japan, they're really high quality fish always. And so like a thing like a scallop nigiri or a mackerel, I would be more likely to get there just because it'd be really high quality. But sorry, keep going.

Mackerel's always the toss up because number one, people don't like it because it tastes like a porta potty. It doesn't, it tastes as fishy as you can get, you know? Super fishy. Yeah, it tastes like very much the ocean mixed with like, if you accidentally chewed one of those omega three capsules. You know, like a fish burp that you get, like that's what that tastes like.

It's so bad. Everyone, oh my God. I think our listeners, some of their, one of their favorite flavors is probably porta potty. So you're talking to the wrong crowd here, but. Just ripe. And when I worked at Taiyo, which I do want to circle back and say,

the girls that I work with were so fucking great. They were so funny. We're still on a text thread. I remember this one girl trained me, her name is Donia, and we were cutting up lemons and she was like, ah, I got toenails sharper than this knife. And she later told me that she found a smear of brown on her abdomen once and she was afraid,

somehow it was poo. And then she realized she was just soy sauce. And she was like, thank God. And they were so funny. They were hilarious. I loved them. Oh, I loved them. We actually really.

She just thought like it was accidental poo smear. She was just like, what is this? She got home like later that night and she was like, what the fuck? And then she was just licked her finger and then was like, oh, thank God it's soy sauce. But they were so funny. I loved them so much.

And we actually. Are any of the Scientologists on the text chain as well? Or are they? I think the primary friend of ours, I think she bounced. I think she got bounced. Got it. I think she had like maybe. It'd be funny to hear updates of like,

I'm like level 27 now or something like that. I think she had a lawyer that was an uncle that like helped shoehorn her out of there, just popped her out. But we were on a text chain over the pandemic because we were really worried about the owner who owned Taiyo because obviously restaurants were not doing well during the pandemic.

And we pooled a bunch of money to send him a couple thousand dollars in case things were tough. And we found out. That he had sold the chain and owned all these sushi stops and had sold all six of them like two years before. And he was like live in large in San Diego and he did not need our money at all. But he was like, thanks girls.

And we were like, oh, great. Because he was such a hard worker, Shuji-san. That's so funny. He would get up at four in the morning and go to the fish markets. But one thing I learned from working there is I was like, ugh, this can't be very good because a lot of it's frozen sushi, like frozen fish.

And then I learned later that most sushi you're going to get in America is frozen. They do that to kill parasites and they freeze it on the boat. And if they don't, like tuna will oxidize to brown. If you don't freeze it right away, you have to freeze salmon for a certain amount of time or else you risk parasites. So a lot of even pretty good sushi

has already been frozen. But anyway, so I have no fucking idea what I was talking about. What was I talking about? Your firm of boss sent you a picture from his yacht saying thank you. Yeah, he was like, you guys keep that. Try to buy health insurance or something with it for yourself. Well, you were talking about your order.

I remember, I remember. I'm back, I'm back. So the mackerel, when we used to serve like bento boxes, they come like three pieces of sushi, right? And one of them would sometimes be mackerel. And when you'd go to clear the plates, because we were also our own bus boys, you'd always find like a half chewed mackerel and a napkin.

Like people would put it in their mouth and go, fuck no, fuck no, just like a board mission. That's really funny. And so people don't like mackerel because it is such a strong flavor. And it also has kind of like a silvery skin. So it's like a little, you feel like you're eating like a frog or it's, it's a little amphibious.

This is like, that's like the real fish experience. You're like getting scales or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. And so I'm going to say the turnover for mackerel is probably not high at a low cost sushi place. You know what I mean? Yeah, I totally get what you're saying.

So I wouldn't do that. But, but yeah, so I get the dynamite rolls. I got the salmon, salmon nigiri. I like the scallop nigiri because it's the little scallops. And I like that there's kind of like a little crispy crunch, like of that papery seaweed feeling in a salmon nigiri. It's like a fence. It's fencing it in and then crunching it.

Right. By the way, I'm following along with your, I'm looking up what you ordered. Oh, great. Quite a few sushi stop originals is what you, what you, what you've got here. That's what I'm a loyalist, a loyalist. To show you something.

I did, I did one of those. I did, I did the crunchy California roll. Um, like these are the ones that I thought would be more home runs and then they weren't, but also again, didn't have spicy chunky, didn't have my, my, my soy, but California, it's a California roll, crunchy flakes and teriyaki sauce. And it was just, just okay. And I wish that I went more in the direction of like there was like a

popcorn shrimp roll, which was California. And then spicy mayo, eel sauce, green onion, then like a fried shrimp on top of it. And I'm like, I wish I went a little bit more. I mean, like the thing that, that I went, that was the, the, the craziest was that crunchy chicken roll, wherever the hell it was. That was like my, I feel like that was one of the crazier things I got.

And I thought it kind of stunk. It was like, did you, did you enjoy it? I've had it before, not a fan. Not a fan. There was one that has guacamole on top. I don't, I don't need that. I don't, I don't want it. I don't need it.

Gacamole. No. Yeah. You don't want to get too fusion-y with these. No. Like it's like it in, it stops working. It's in guacamole. Here's, here's, here's, here's what's in the chicken crunchy roll wags.

It's cream cheese, avocado, cucumber, sriracha, crunchy flakes, teriyaki sauce. It just is like, you're barely- Didn't I read that earlier? I don't know, maybe. That's the exact one I read earlier is an example of what they have. Well, I don't give a shit. Yeah, I read it again, all right? And I ate it and you can't taste, you can't taste the chicken in it.

It doesn't, it, and like that's, I was, I was, I was very excited for it. And then it, it, it sucked. And then I was also, this is my final order. I got a yuzu albacore roll, which is special under the cucumber, sriracha, cilantro, fried onion, garlic, ponzu. And that was the best of like the, the crunchy California roll, the chicken crunchy roll, and then this one. That was the best of the three, but it still didn't blow me away.

Why? Because I don't know how you felt about it. I thought, I thought, you know, I, again, I thought it was decent. I do feel like this is, and this is often the case is the specialty rolls are just, they got too much going on. And they're more just sort of like that, like eye candy than a fun mouthful. And I always feel like you're going to have a little bit more success keeping it simple.

But I don't know, it's a solid outing. I was, I was happy with it. Did you, my, my, my expectations were not high. And I would say they were surpassed. I am curious, was there any other food that we didn't get to from anyone? Yeah, Ali, that's, that's everything for me. Yeah. I, I, there's a sleeper hit on the menu.

And that is something that you probably would not typically order. But the salmon collar is surprisingly good. If you're willing to get in there with your tweezy chopsticks and really pick at that stuff, it's a nice piece of fish. Again, super affordable. If you're going to order, I forget how much is the salmon collar, like five bucks or something. This, this one, this price is eight, eight dollars 30 cents.

Okay, not bad, but still eight bucks for a piece of fresh grilled salmon, not too shabby. And you're biting inflation. I mean, not bad. You know, oh, his fault. But you get a, We agree. We all agree.

We all know, you get a fin with it. How often can you order a fin to your doorstep? Not that often. That's cool. Not often. If you need to make a fish stock later. There you go. In these trying economic times.

You need to boil it. Maybe. I made a, I made a force awakens. If you, if you were a force awakens on Amazon, you could get a fin to your door. You get a fin delivered. Yeah. Well done.

Sorry, Allie. I know that you probably want to leave now, but here's the thing I regret. Here's the thing I regret. Here's the thing I regret not getting. And I, and I wish that I was in person dessert because there's a banana tempura, a tempura ice cream, which just looks insane. If you just look at the tempura ice cream on the menu, it looks, it looks insane.

And, and then some green tea ice cream. Did any of you get dessert, dessert wags? No, I didn't, I didn't get any of these desserts. I do. Again, this, this to me feels like that miso soup of just like, I've had these desserts at other restaurants like this. And I feel like I've probably had the same thing before. Banana tempura is legit.

I've had it there a million times. And I completely forgot about it until you mentioned it. And I just had this like visceral like paying of guilt because Shuji-san would have bananas there for the banana tempura orders. And then all of us bitches would be, would come in for our shift, fucking take a banana, crack it open, eat it while we set up. And then, you know, sometimes they'd be like, we'd be 86 on bananas because like three of us would have eaten a banana that day.

And then we, someone would have to go run to Mayfair and get more bananas for, if we were busy. And I was like, oh my God, I'm so sorry. But, but I think the banana tempura is pretty good. It comes to you super hot. It melts with the ice cream, the whipped creams on there. There's some chocolate syrup. And what I like about it is sometimes when you get a communal dessert,

there's a lot of crossing the streams with everyone's forks. Everyone's spitty spoons are going all over the place. But when you've got chopsticks, everyone gets a piece of banana. You know, in these COVID conscious times, it's a safe way to share a dessert. I don't like that. It's a good point. It feels like you can get some of the fun stuff here and have it work. It seems like you got some of the fun stuff.

My fun stuff, my like sushi stop originals didn't work as well for me. But now that I know, in the future, maybe I'll, you know, I'm going to go a different route. But some, some disappointments, some highlights, the things that, the things I thought I wasn't going to like surprised me. And the things that I thought were like fun and dumb were kind of bad and dumb. But overall, I think we should get to final thoughts. It's, it's time. So, Allie, here's how this will work.

We'll each go around, give our closing argument, if you will, on this particular chain, sushi stop, and then end that by giving it a score from zero to five forks. You are our guest. We'll begin with you. I already forgot the instructions. All right. No problem. One to zero to five, zero to five.

Zero to five forks is a score. And then any other thoughts you want to share just based off of this experience and any prior experiences. Why are you starting putting you to sleep? I know. I, what happened was, as soon as you said the zero to five forks, I was like, would I give it four, would I give it a 3.5 and then I was like, shit, what was the first part of that?

Final thoughts, final thoughts. Los Angeles, Mainstay, sushi for the people. You can have a fun time for not as many dollars. And I appreciate that. That expectation management is how you approach sushi stop. And once you know what your expectations are, it's sushi go. It's, let's do it. And I would give it a 3.5 forks out of five.

Can I do a half time? Absolutely. Of course. Okay. So that's, I guess it would be 14 times. If there's four times on each fork, three times four plus another, I'm going to give it 14 times. Does that make sense?

It does make sense. That's three and a half forks. Yeah. And actually Ali unfortunately makes too much sense to us, it makes a lot of sense. No, Tine's exists, shout out the Tine father, Matt Selman, who added that to the Doe Boyz Canon. Well, should we be giving? Father Tine, brother, I'm proud of you.

But should we even be rating this in chopsticks? It's still forks. Okay. Just checking, I'm just checking. I think this is your restaurants could be ranked in chopsticks. I don't know why they're going to be down on it with a fucking... They could be, but it's forks. Why are you brought down as band hammer?

It's forks. It's forks. Fine. It's forks. I understand. Actually, it's forks. You think our listeners, you think Y's and I and our listeners can use fucking chopsticks? We got to use, we eat sushi with forks.

Hey, I'm good. Do they bring you the rubber bands? Like they bring like, they fold up the paper and bring you the rubber bands? I've had that embarrassment too many times in my life. Like probably until I was 30, and I still am not good with chopsticks. And I like to see it. I'm a fucking chopsticks master. I know you are.

It's fucking annoying. It sucks. He's good with chopsticks. It can be chopsticks. We could make it chopsticks. I could definitely see you trying to order in Japanese. Especially if you go by yourself and there's no one to roast you for it. And then getting things a little bit wrong and then having to sit,

like, and then being like, can you just say it in English? I was like, yeah, sorry. And then on the way home, you trying to talk yourself into the fact that, no, you did a pretty good job. Yeah, I did. I did okay, yeah. And the people who work at the restaurant are like, he knows Japanese for like horny reasons, right?

You ordered a hentai roll? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. This is a really, truly a hard one for me to rank, because I'm like, I don't think I should personally go over three forks. But then I'm like, going below three forks seems too cruel, too. Like I said, it was a great segue into sushi. It's a great training wheel sushi spot. I forgot what I even said, what was the term I used for it.

But I think maybe it was a segue sushi spot. But it's funny that it's called sushi stop like GameStop, because in my mind, I relate it to like the GameStops of sushi places. Like it's convenient, it's got what you need there. But there's nothing fancy about it. You just go and if you're a fan of sushi, I think that you'll be, you will be happy and you'll find something that works. It's not the greatest sushi, of course.

I think Sugarfish is a better restaurant. But God help me, I can't go below three forks. I think I got to go three forks exactly. And I think it is like, look, if you need sushi, you're on the Franklin Strip. You just, hey, you just had a great 6pm improv show. You're one of the flannel guys. And you're Matt Besser. You need to get something.

This is the place to get it. What else are you going to do? You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, and I'm sure, look, there's local sushi spots in LA too that are going to be better than this. But you know, sometimes you want McDonald's. And this is, for a lot of people, is kind of like the McDonald's of sushi spots.

Three forks, wags. I shouldn't say it's the McDonald's of sushi spots. I shouldn't say it's the McDonald's of sushi spots because I love, love McDonald's. This is, and this is like, and I think that McDonald's is probably a five forker. We're not, we're not going to review it ever. But yeah. More like a, how about, how about Denny's? Is Denny's a good point of comparison?

Denny's is maybe, I'm with you, Ali. Maybe Denny's is like a little too bad, but like, we're getting closer. We're getting closer. I hop. Del Taco? Del Toc, well, easy. You just stepped on a landmine with wags. Loves Del Taco.

I mean like, on like a restaurant level, I think like maybe it is Del Taco. Yeah. Maybe it's a Jack in the Box. Yeah. I do, I do love Del Taco, but maybe you're right. Maybe it is like a Del Taco of, that's, that's a, because there are definitely better Takareas than, there are better Takareas than Del Taco in the city of LA. Bold statement.

The same is true for sushi restaurants and sushi stop. Yeah, this is, I'm not going to overthink this. This is a classic three fork restaurant. That's exactly what it's trying to do with a level of, with a perfectly solid level of execution. It's a completely fine, just totally, everything it does is pretty solid sushi restaurant. One thing I'll say and one thing I noticed as I was at this particular sushi stop, which is literally like a two minute walk from another sushi stop. There is, there's a sushi stop on Satel and then there's one across the street,

like just south of it. And they are both right next to extremely popular ramen restaurants. One is Daikokuya and the other one is Tsuchida. Tsuchida is so popular, there is a Tsuchida annex across the street. So there's like two Tsuchidas. Daikokuya downtown? There's one in Satel. Oh, there's two Daikokuyas?

Yeah, there's one on Satel. So this is the Satel neighborhood. So on the western side. That original Daikokuya is like the best ramen in the world, I think. So, so the, yeah, these are, you know, it's really well regarded and these are very high trafficked and I realize part of sushi stops, like the reason they're there is because they just get the overflow from people who are like, they show up and they're like, well, fuck it. I don't want to wait two hours.

I'll just get fucking sushi stop, which is savvy on their part. And it makes sense that they've stuck around. It makes sense they've turned into a sort of a mini chain. Why does that get, it's like, it's that sort of thing of like, a kiss from daddy, the birthday boy is sold out. Fuck it, I'm going to go to sushi stop. Oh, a time machine. Bring in me back.

Bring in me back. Our show more likely to give you food poisoning, I feel like. And one more thing I was going to say, I don't remember what it was. I'm sure it wasn't important. Oh, I don't know what it was. All I was going to say is that just like, I still have a little bit of resentment over them neutering New Japan and turning it into a distant simulacrum of what it used to be. But it's, it's New Japan by Sushi Stop is for me like steak and shake by Biglar, Mitch.

It's like, this is not the real thing. That said, three forks. Three forks. Well, hey, we talked about Sushi Stop a whole bunch. We're going to take a break and we'll be back with more dough boys. Hey, you. You craving fresh, delicious, easy meals, try wild grain and get their bake from frozen sourdough breads, fresh pastas and artisanal pastries delivered right to your door.

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That's wildgrain.com slash dough boys or you can use promo code dough boys at checkout. Do it. Welcome back to dough boys. We are here with Allie Ward. Sushi Stop was our chain and it's time for a segment. But before we get to that, Allie, we have a phenomenon here at the dough boys where we often run into people telling us, oh, my spouse loves your podcast. Yes.

And that is the case with you. Your husband, Jared, listens to dough boys. He does. He loves them. But I love your husband. We worked together. We were just talking about this. Great guy.

Small world. Small, small world. But he's a, you're in his heart. Wow. He's in my heart as well. We worked on a, on some old, like an old YouTube. We were both hired as actors on old YouTube videos. And it was like a weird, like this weird thing called my music.

And, and I remember that I was just like a guy who said guess a bunch. And then like, it was like the biggest guy. The guest guy, which Jordan Morris wrote, Wigs, I believe. I didn't know that. So there's a lot, there's a lot of, a lot of small world things going on here. But I did it. I was like, I don't know what the hell that was. And then I, and then like the next week it was like more popular than anything I've

ever done in my entire life, like YouTube people being like, guest guy. And then like, I was like, still to this day, I'll do like whatever. They'll be like a, like a tomorrow war thing or whatever. And they're like, the guest guy. I'm like, what the whole generation raised on, but, but your husband was in that. And we, I met him and I, and I, he's a great guy. He's, he's such a weird person. And I like, well, that, the only downside is that he likes the, which we didn't know.

Well, that's also one thing I love about Franklin is like, I think that's why it gets the extra two times is that street, you know, I had my first art show at the pig and, which led to a little bit of a career in illustrating and then writing and then TV. And, you know, my friend Catherine Burns worked at the shop next to me and I would bring over sushi lunch. And now she's like a double Emmy winning choreographer. And there are so many people.

Susan Hale from UCB works for allergies now. And there's so many people that I met and I saw their careers. It was almost like a college campus kind of where you'd see people working on stuff. And so I always really liked that little community aspect of it and cheering people on, you know. And you know what, you're on that, you're on, you're on that Franklin strip. You hear a beep, beep. You turn around a flannel guys right behind you. No, he's got his own show, you know, got a pilot.

I cannot tell you how many times, like I don't care about football or the Super Bowl, but watching to see who from improv shows got parts in Super Bowl commercials. So I was like, oh, my friend, my friend, fuck that guy. Oh my God, I know him. Oh my God, I'm so cute stuff. Like, so it's like, oh, LA. Yeah, that's a, I feel like Super Bowl. I remember a kneeler dude.

Wigs was, Neil Campbell was in a Super Bowl commercial and I remember going home and like telling my family, like my friend is in a Super Bowl commercial this year and they were like, we don't care. But, but then they do care. Like that is, I feel like a commercial is like the biggest, when I was a fucking yard man or whatever, that's the biggest thing I ever fucking did is just being in a fucking, like all the time they're always like, do you know flow? Like, I feel like that's like the biggest question I get is like, yes,

maybe flow could hook you up with something. I'm like, shut the Jesus Christ. She was an IO person. And flow is great. Don't get me wrong. We love flow. We love flow. But there's a groundlings community.

There's an IO community. There's a UC. You're like, she's groundlings. Like, I don't, She's ground. Yeah. I'm not going to see her at Franklin. She better not be on my turf, man.

You know, it's different. It's different. Surprisingly little cross-pollination between the different venues. I was like, just on that point, my favorite would always be like when I started doing more stuff around the upright citizens brigade theater and just like indie comedy in general. And then talking about like seeing someone in a commercial. And then you'll see, you'll see like your friend in a commercial and he's like, petting a golden retriever and being like, I'm a stay at home dad.

And then you're just like, I just saw you in a sketch where you like put your dick in a hot dog. Hold on. Who are you fucking trying to fool? You specifically named Harris right there. Let me tell you that. He filled out that bun too. He certainly did. And then there were condiments were put on top of it.

If people were wondering. Arm and put condiments on it. No, you're right. They will be, they'll be in a commercial with a dog being, I'm a stay at home dad. And then on stage or be like, I'm sucking a dog's dick. Vomiting milk. I remember those days. Yeah.

Paul Russ butthole is like a jewel in the crown of UCB days. I just remember the dirtiest week sketch. It was just like, all I could think about was Paul Russ just butthole to the audience. And I'm like, that was the time. That was the time. The different time. Yeah. And it's worth two extra, it's worth a half a fork to me for that place that has it in my heart.

You know? I'm with you. Yeah. I drank a lot of milk on stage at one point. Anyway, look, we could talk about this all. We could talk about this all night. Yes, sorry, sorry, sorry. And I also, that scene about sucking a dog's dick was me.

But why? Let's get to the segment. By the way, Katherine Burns, who you mentioned, I'll just shout her out. She was in, Mitch was talking about the guest guy, his internet video. She was in, acted in and choreographed a internet video of mine that went, I think probably people know me most from, if they know me from anything viral, which was a Gungan style back in the day. So she was a, oh yeah, Katherine's great.

Anyway, it's time for our own. She's been very, very, very deservedly successful. But it's time for our own version. The one got to go meme. It's our segment. A single item must be banished, sushi edition. This was compiled by our associate producer, Amelia Marino. So I'll just give a category.

I'll give four options and you tell me which item must be banished. We're, I don't know if we're trying to come to a consensus here. I think we're just saying our own picks. All right. First up, type, sashimi, nigiri, cut roll, or hand roll. So sashimi is just, it's just like the fish in like a sauce, right? Just the fish. Yeah.

Sometimes, yeah. It's, it's, and I will say that, that I'm keeping that one because I do. Yeah. I actually like that. You have a really good quality one. So sashimi, nigiri, hand roll, and cut roll? Yes. You know what?

Even though I just said I liked the hand roll, it wasn't, it wasn't a seaweed hand roll. I think I'm going, I think I'm, I think I get to get rid of the hand roll. Yeah. I think there are just too many cut rolls that I like. And you know, again, I mentioned them. Something of a hand roll, skeptic, whatever. I'm sure people will tell me that side. That's actually the more authentic roll is the hand roll.

Shut up. But I think I will, I will take the cut roll over the hand roll. I don't know. What do you think, Allie? I'm, was also going to say hand roll. I forgot to mention at sushi stop, they did have a blue crab hand roll that was my favorite, a pound of mayonnaise and that, and they recently took it off the menu. And so now hand rolls are dead to me.

So I want to say bye-bye hand roll. I also think that if you get rid of nigiri, you can kind of fabricate your own nigiri with some sashimi and kind of like live your best life. But that's cheating. Hand roll, I'm not a huge seaweed guy, which I know that a lot of people like. So like with hand rolls, I feel like I'm getting the most seaweed. Is a hand roll just an uncut roll? Is that basically what it is?

Yeah. It's in a cone. Kind of. It's a cone situation. Yeah. All right. Well, I like different form factor. Have you ever gotten the sugar fish takeout?

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It gives me anxiety. The hand rolls that you would get in the restaurant, they do as cut rolls in the takeout. That's right. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's right, Emma. And I think I enjoy them more that way. I like my rolls on cut wigs. Oh, I'm sorry. I like my rolls cut. And sorry, I'll get out of this area.

And so hand rolls for me, they get a go. The hand rolls get a go. Hand rolls get a go. Hand rolls are gone. Okay. Next category, this is just types of seafood. These are Amelia's pick. Salmon, tuna, yellowtail, and shrimp.

By the way, learned from a meme recently, Mitch, a meme that you shared that salmon sushi only dates to like the 70s. It didn't used to be a thing. I don't know if it just because salmon isn't. This is the one we questioned. We were like, is this real? I think it's possible that just like there isn't salmon off the coast of Japan. And so once it became like more of a popular thing in North America and Europe,

then it started to be more. I always forget if salmon is fucking an Atlantic or a Pacific fish. We also talked about this and it's like, it's listed. It's like, oh, like a focaccia bread is like in 1982 or something. And there's like stuff like that where you're like, oh, weird. Oh, sorry, it was ciabatta. You're right. Sorry.

Yeah. Thank you. And which makes more sense. Ciabatta bread is like 1982. And then there was one thing on it that we talked about on the, we did a double. We talked about there's one thing in the corner, fartons. And we didn't know what they are. Fartons.

And I'm like, I've never heard of this ever in my life. And it's a funny sounding, it's a funny sounding food. But like, it's like, I wouldn't be surprised that this was made in the 40s or whatever. I don't fucking, I've never heard of fartons in my fucking entire life. But there was some stuff on that list that was kind of, I was shocked by and also wondered if it was true. Like chicken tiki masala was like the 70s, right? Like are the 80s or something?

Or something crazy like that. I don't know if you have that list up now, Wikes, but we can't get into it. I don't have it open. We can't, we can't get into it. We also talked about that on an episode that came out like six weeks ago by the time you listened to this. So go back and listen to it. Subscribe to the Patreon, listen to that.

Or don't. The show sucks. Who cares? Anyway, it's a bad show. It's a bad show. The segment is continuing with the fish options. Salmon tuna, yellowtail and shrimp. Yes, I'm stalling because this is hard. One gotta go. One gotta go, I'll take the bullet and I'll say this is a tough one for me

because I actually do like this and I really like a sweet shrimp because it's available. You better not be saying shrimp. I think I might get shrimp out of here. I knew you were. I might get rid of that one. I love shrimp. It's the one that's the most different. It's the most different of the bunch.

It's really good and I like it. And again, if you get a sweet shrimp, it's fucking delightful, but it's, you've got to make a tough cut here. And that's my tough cut. No, this is not a tough cut. This is the easiest question. Fuck off, tuna. Get out of here, tuna.

Wow. Ali, that's where my head was going was the tuna of all. I got a lot of room for me too. You don't want to hear all my reasons, but I'll tell you a couple of them. Number one, yes, on the shrimp and a sweet shrimp when they fry the whole head and you get to just eat all kinds of bristles. It's like a deep fried pine needles that tastes like the ocean. I love that.

Oh my God. Fucking love that shit. I'll eat that whole thing. So I'm down with that. But my beef with tuna is sometimes you get a bad one and also tuna are giant. They've got so much mercury and it's like they are predators. So it's like eating a tiger, which just feels weird. You know what I mean?

And I think it's so sad that tuna just gets like boiled and put in a can and I was like, tuna for sandwich. But imagine if you're like, oh, I'm eating a lion sandwich. That's so, is that weird? So when I think of tuna, I think, oh, tuna, you got to be out there eating little or guys. And also I don't like the flavor as much. The dough boys aren't above eating a lion sandwich. So this is hard for us to, I would never eat a cat.

You can never eat cats. But I think that's well argued. I'll just say that the reason I wouldn't pick tuna is because of toro. And when you get like a really good fatty piece of toro, it's just so fucking, that's one of the most delectable bites I think you could have at a sushi restaurant. But I understand your argument. And if we're talking about just like regular old tuna, I think you're spot on. Go on, Mitch.

I just think that it's like the one that you're just the most used to. Like anytime I'm having the other ones, I'm more excited. And for that reason, I'm going to cut it. It's, look, it's a fucking hard one. Amelia, this was dastardly. This is fucked up. Next category. I can't even fucking think about it too long.

Amelia, you devil. It's food for thought is what it is. It is food for thought. That should be a segment. All right, Amelia. Hey, come up with a segment, food for thought. Thanks. When you listen to this later.

All right. Next up, sushi rolls. Also, you are a devil. Here are your options. California roll, Philadelphia roll, spicy tuna roll, salmon avocado roll. Look, the Philadelphia roll, almost I could get rid of right off the bat, but then I heard the salmon, what is it, salmon avocado roll? Salmon avocado roll.

It's between those two for me. I think again, I think the Philadelphia roll is the, I do like it. It's fun. It's a fun novelty. What's in the Philadelphia roll? Cream cheese, obviously. Like locks, smoked salmon. Yeah, like locks, cream cheese and salmon.

So you've got salt on salt. To me, the Philadelphia roll presents too much of a, not a, it doesn't, it lacks like a certain tang to me. Although I guess the cream cheese is a little tangy, but I feel like it's like a salted fish on a salted rice. Yeah. With soy sauce. And you know what?

Yeah. I sang a song, Philadelphia cream cheese, but fuck Philly. Fuck that city. Wow. Just have to watch the eagles be good. They're such fucking assholes. But all the time they're always like, fuck boss. I'm like, we don't even have like a real rivalry with you guys.

Why do you hate us so much? Fuck Philly. They need to be fucking taken down a peg. You know what? And what is Philly known for? Food-wise, it's Philly roll. That's its most valued food export. They have nothing else going for them.

No. At all. They don't. Nothing else that they're known for. I've never eaten a cheese steak in that city. No. I don't think that's, that's not, I don't even know if they make them there.

No, they really are known for their salmon locks rolls. So get them where it hurts. They got taken down a peg when the Philly's lost the World Series and then soon when the eagles lose in the playoffs, it will also happen. But they're fucking, they've been, they've been a lot to deal with lately. Anyways, yikes.

A lot to deal with lately. They've been a lot to deal with lately. You're both like the same, like Philadelphia and Boston are both the same like fucking drunken angry cities with inferiority complexes for not being New York. You're the same fucking place. That's why you hate each other. That's such bullshit.

Fuck New York. I don't want to be New York. Fuck that shit. Next up. You know what? Vegetarian rolls. SNL should have been in Boston. Anyways.

All right. Sticking with rolls. Vegetarian rolls. Kevin Colligan, sound guy, I'm sure some metal great guy from Philly. Fuck Philly though. Okay, here we go. Go birds.

Vegetarian rolls. Your options are vegetable roll, whatever that means to you. Avocado roll, cucumber roll, and veggie tempura roll. Say this again. Vegetable roll, avocado roll, cucumber roll, veggie tempura roll. Let me see if there's an agreed upon definition

of a vegetable roll. I would either get rid of the vegetable roll or the cucumber roll already. Just to let you know that I'm ready. I like the cucumber roll. In fact, you know what? Here's a new thing. Get rid of both.

Ooh. Wow. Two items must be banished. Yeah, I'm getting rid of two in this one. Fuck. Wow. I don't give a shit. Wow.

Cucumber roll. What about like a sweet potato roll? Do you ever get like a sweet potato roll? That's fun. That's kind of sounds cute. If it's fried, yeah. All right, give us a definition of the vegetable roll and the cucumber roll, and then I'll.

I'm having trouble finding something that's a commonly agreed upon. I think the cucumber roll is literally just cucumber in a wrapped in rice. Yeah, cucumber roll is usually just cucumber. Does cucumber have cream cheese in it though? Or no? No.

I think it's just cucumber. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to say something controversial. Avocado roll. Get it out of there. Interesting. I have this thing that is great for other people

in that I don't like avocados at all. So if there's an avocado around, I just don't give a fuck. It means nothing to me. And it's like, it tastes like water pudding to me. It doesn't taste like anything. I like guac, but that's because you've thrown in some onions and some other cool stuff.

But avocados just don't do it. Water pudding. You know what? So other people can eat my avocados. I don't care. Take it off my omelet. I don't need it. I want it.

I think that's fair. You're about to stick up for water pudding. I like a water pudding. I like a good water pudding. A flavorless pudding. Just a clear goo. I like avocado a lot, but I think your point is well-arcued. And I think honestly, it's like a little slimy and gooey

and maybe not quite the right texture for a sushi roll, especially just on its own. Like salmon avocado roll, sure. Avocado roll? I think that one must be banished. Yeah. Mitch, what do you think? Get out of here.

Cucumber roll for me. Wow. Cuc makes you puke? I'm fine with cuke. Cuc is just, I like cuke in certain areas, but cuke is overrated. Get it out of here. Next one.

Does Jared like avocado? He'll eat it. Yeah, he's down with it. He'll eat it. But I foist my tomatoes on other people. Yeah, I foist my, it's, I think it's like tomatoes are, no one's ever like, oh, can I have your tomatoes? But if you're the person at the table that's like,

does anyone want my avocado? Everyone's like, are you sure? Are you sure? You're like, I'm just a good person that hates avocado. I'll give it away. All right, sauces. Eelsauce, spicy mayo, ponzu, and soy sauce. This is going to be really controversial.

This is really challenging. Go on, go on, Mitch. This is going to be controversial. I think it's good, but eel sauce is going to go. Wow. I mean, look, spicy, maybe I could go spicy mayo over eel sauce, but I think eel sauce, I can get what I want from the other two. Like I can get close enough to eel sauce.

I don't, I don't, I don't know. All of these are good. I think if you, if I was a boy and you told me like, hey, you know what? I'm a young boy, you're saying? If I was a little boy, I was, I was just like, like, let's say, let's say I've got some sort of like, I can send a message to my younger self via a Tesseract,

like an interstellar. And I'm pushing books off of shelves and I'm telling little me that someday you will like a thing called eel sauce. Like you will think that I would have been like, what the fuck are you talking about? There's no way, but I love eel sauce. I think it's so good. And I think this is a tough cut.

Let's not get a little, little wager. Shouldn't see too much of adult wager or if he's going to have to be fucking institutionalized. Wait, I have to go to school to turn into that? I have to do my homework so that can be my life? Um, boy, I think Ponzu is my cut here. It's there's, there's no easy answer. Out of your mind.

I think I get rid of Ponzu sauce is so good. Ponzu sauce is so good. Ponzu is good. It's good. They're all good. Okay. I agree with you about eel sauce. I think eel sauce is a treat.

And it's something that like I wouldn't mind if someone drizzled it over like a frappuccino. You know what I mean? It's like, I'll take, I think it's good. And I think a spicy mayo to me in the sauce kingdom of sushi is like a duct tape. I feel like it fixes everything. You put a little spicy mayo, anything you're eating,

even just a smear, even just a thin, thin layer elevated fixes things. Soy sauce, you're going to not invite your mom to your, to Christmas. You've got to have soy sauce there. You got to have soy sauce. So, you know what Ponzu is for me? So you're going Ponzu as well?

Here's why. Here's why. Okay. Ponzu is like, you're going to hang out with, with your girlfriends. And then one of them is like, last minute, can my boyfriend come? And you're like, okay.

And he's fine, but it's not, it's like. We don't need him. This goes out to everyone. Don't bring, don't last minute, bring your significant other to the, to the gathering. You don't want them there. It doesn't. We don't need them.

If no one else is doing it, you don't, you don't got to do it. It's, the thing is, is like, if he's there, fine, but honestly, would have been just as good with Adam and maybe a little better. I just think Ponzu sauce is superfluous, is what I'm saying. Do you know what I mean?

It's like a, it's something that it's like, oh, you're here. Okay. But I don't find a need for it in the way that I do the others. Are you with me? I love it. I'm with you.

Okay. I appreciate that. I've also, also definitely been, my wife invited me. Hi. Sometimes that's great. Sometimes that's great. And it, you wind up talking about like, whatever,

like the latest season of Outlander instead of someone's miscarriage. You know, sometimes it's what you need. Yeah. You know, but sometimes it's like, yeah. And that's an era why she's talking to a divorce attorney. She said I could, she'd come by myself. Don't get me wrong.

I love talking about miscarriages. And I'll do it any day of the week. But it's just a different flavor of hate. One hundred percent. Right. Maybe you get that odd significant other who loves, who loves getting to miscarriage talk too. That's always probably creepy.

Yeah. But, but you know, stay away. Significant others, you can stay away. Let your, let your, your, your significant other have fun on their own. Let them have fun. Let them have a night. Yeah.

I meant to mention this is, this is just a, just a return to my sushi stop experience. There was one thing I admitted from my review, which is that I ordered a, at the end of, I, I, I like to get like a, an egg sushi a time ago and they were out of it. Oh yeah. I tried to get it on the, on my order

and they didn't offer it. And that's one of my faves. But I think it's very funny that you're like, and for dessert, for a little, for a little treat, little sugar egg, just a little tiny one bite of sugar egg. And that's your dessert. You know what I ordered it too. You saved it.

If I was good, if I was good, if I just palette on that morning, I'd get a little tiny little bite of sugar egg. Give me my sugar egg, please. I've been ever so good. I've seen my plate. I do love tamago though. Yeah, it's good.

It's good as hell. Cobb blesses the Japanese for their use of egg. I always, they just, you know, when you, when you're, when you're digging into some ramen, you got a piece of, you get that egg in their wags. You're just, I'm having a blast. Hey, under that umbrella too, mayo, fucking some great mayo implementations

in Japanese cuisine. Yeah. All right. Next up. Sides. This category is like a catchall category called sides. And this one kind of goes in different directions here. But here are Amelia's options.

Pickled ginger, wasabi, miso soup, and edamame. Oh, we already know. So you got, yeah, you got to have the ginger. You got to have the wasabi. You've lived life without it. I mean, honestly, I love the ginger. But like, if you're like, you have to lose one of these. I'm like, but I'm saying like all, all those things.

Like, I'm like, I'm like, look, I love the ginger. Don't get me wrong, wise. I love the ginger. But I'm saying like, if you're like, you can have miso juice, you can have a miso soup or a side of ginger. I'm going to be like, well, I want that miso soup too. You know what I mean? Like that's, this is the tricky tradeoff here.

Is that for what this is? Like I'd rather have edamame, miso soup, and, and what was, oh, and spicy chunky. Wasabi. So the wasabi, honestly, if I'm not going ginger, I'd maybe go miso soup. I think that's the first one down. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's miso soup,

just because I feel like I've, I've had so many, just completely mediocre versions of it. Edamame is a fun treat at a sushi restaurant as an app, but you know, I don't always get it. I honestly, either of those is fine. I just got to have my ginger and I got to have my wasabi. I think ginger is so delightful. It's a great, it's a great palette cleanser.

Yeah, edamame's out. Settles the stomach too. Yeah. Edamame's a good cut. Yeah, I, edamame's, I think the others are vital. Edamame's out of here. Yeah, I love edamame though. I just said it like how my mom says it.

Should we have some emamade? Emamade? Do you like the text? Tykel, we need some emamade. It's ridiculous. She does it all the time. Do you like it from a texture standpoint? Like, do you like it because it's like a,

like having a fidget spinner before your food gets there? Like, you know, the, it's like bubble wrap. That is a fun part of it. That is also a huge fun part of it, but you know, look, we can cut it. If we're, if we have to, if this is one where we have to agree, I'm like, all right, fine. I get to see.

Like if we were, if we were all having dinner together and this is like what happened, I wonder where Emma weighs. And Emma? I, I'm, I gotta have the ginger and the wasabi. So yeah, I could go miso soup or edamame, but I might, I love a miso soup. So probably add the edamame. Yeah.

Edamame's jam. What if you get the warm salted edamame? I'm also kind of cold right now. So hot soup just sounds really nice. That's true. All right. It would be nice. All right.

This is a hot summer day. You've got, what have you got? Like slightly warm salted edamame. All right, whatever. I will say sushi stop has a garlic edamame. Don't sleep on it. It's pretty, it will make your car smell like garlic farts for a while. If you've driving home with it, not, I mean, not after you eat it.

That's your own business, but just if you're driving with it. But I think they recently switched from fresh garlic to garlic powder. So, you know, just again, monitor your expectations. Yeah, less exciting. Yeah. All right. Finally, utensils. Wow.

Chopsticks. Mm-hmm. Hands. Spoon. And napkin. A single item must be banished. Oh, this is easy for me. Really?

It's easy for you? Bye-bye napkin. I don't give a shit. What? Bye-bye napkin? That's what sleep is for. Bye-bye napkin. Yeah, exactly.

I need that napkin. Wow. I need the napkin. How messy are you going to get eating sushi? You shouldn't get that messy. You're messy as shit. I'm fucking getting shit all over the place. Especially if hands are still in the game.

Yeah. You're going to employ hands but not a napkin? So, you guys are going to get rid of hands? Well, how are you going to... Oh, all right. You know what? I'm the spoon man. I can't get rid of spoons.

Watch, you know this. I can't get rid of spoons. I'm ditching the spoon. That's an easy cut for me. This is insane. Because even if I get that soup, I'm just slurping it. I can slurp it when I'm from society. This is you in a year.

I'm ditching the spoon. I'm fucking going to get played. Napkins. See you later, napkins. Emma's with me. He can fucking... You've got to figure it out. I need that napkin.

Tablecloth. Drapes. Yeah, anything. Garfit. Yeah. Oh, you got to pick any of those. See, grass broke. Hands are out.

I don't need to smell my lunch. I don't want to smell my lunch. You don't want... Yeah. So, hands are out. I need a napkin. Chopsticks always. I eat Cheetos with chopsticks.

I popcorn with chopsticks. Hell yeah. Wow. Wags are out. Me too. Me too. That's fun. I have a bunch.

Just meaty. So yeah, hands are out. I don't like to be reminded of the food I ate hours later by smelling my own fingers. It's not my favorite. See, Wags and I are into that, but... I get it. I like to smell my fingies.

I get it. Memories of meals. Oh, souvenir. It smells like deeds I've done. Unfortunately, I think in this scenario, Allie, you lose your hands completely, but that's okay. Oh, fuck, okay. No, you just can't use your hands while eating it.

I don't think you have to live your life without hands. I think your hands have to be chopped off. Okay, well then, yeah, she's okay with it. Yeah, she's okay with it. I did get my hands stuck in an escalator when I was a kid. What? Yes. And I'm one of the reasons why they have emergency stop buttons,

because back then they didn't have those. And like me and like a couple of kids got stuck in, you know, early 80s, and then they had to... Sounds like a Funky Bruiser episode. I'm, doesn't it? I've only. If only. But yeah, I have third degree burns on my hands.

So... Oh my God. Oh my God. I've played, I've lived life without at least one of my hands for a while. So I'm fine, but I need a napkin. You're wild. Yeah, I wanted to figure out how the escalator worked. And so I thought I'd hang on to it as the belt went under.

I was like, what, what happens once it disappears? You know what happens? They call it paramedics. And then they're like, oh no, why is your kid so dumb? But we did a lot, we did a lawsuit on the department store. Four year old gets stuck in an escalator, third degree burns, almost has to repeat kindergarten, lawsuit, we won. Guess how much?

How much? A bill, one, one million dollars. I'll say $180,000. $1,200. What? Okay. Not the windfall. I didn't cover the paramedics.

I would have expected. It covered the emergency bill. My parents were, were very litigious. They were like, okay, thanks. You know what? I still have scars. Yeah. The emergency room and little sushi stop afterwards.

Pretty good. Just a little bit. Three dollars a plate, baby. Let's get that tempura. I got a settlement. Her present table. Biled. You got to buy your own cokes.

Yeah, but I need, I need napkins more than hands. Me too. Absolutely need those napkins. Yeah. That's fair. By the way, this is, this is just, this was a lie, my brother told me. My brother is like four and a half years older than me.

But when I was a kid, because we were talking about the garbage disposal and like my parents were like, go put your hand in the garbage disposal. My brother was like, I got my hand stuck in the garbage disposal and it got cut off. And then they replaced it with a robot hand like Luke has in Empire Strikes Back. And I believe that for like five years.

I was like, my brother's got a fucking robot hand. I think he just told it to me once too. And I just internalized it. I was like, that's cool. You probably heard you telling it later. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? My brother's fucking stupid. Nate is an alpha.

Anyways, that was, what was the name of the thing? It was a single item must be banished. It's just like a restore your feedback. Let's open up the feedback. We have a voicemail today. Emma, do we want to play that one? Hey, Devoys. Kevin here.

I was wondering if you had any items of food, like toppings or spices or anything like that that you think need to be in very precise ratios to be good. For example, I am someone who does not like it if salad dressing crosses a threshold of too much. There's like a limit of how much salad dressing I can enjoy on something. I don't know if you have something similar.

Maybe you don't want too much cracked pepper or whatever. Let me know. Thanks. Well, that same issue got brought up earlier. Like I don't want my salad swimming in dressing. It can only take so much. But you know what? Underdressed also sucks.

And in L.A. And just also sucks. A little cup. You're screwed. That guy's voice sounded like, it sounded like Dave Ferguson's voice like 0.5 speed. You think that was fast Ferg? No, I thought it was like it sounded like a deeper Ferg.

I was like a slow Ferg. Yeah, slow Ferg. Maybe that's a character he's doing. I don't know. It sounded like Ferg. Deep Ferg. Deep Ferg is Kevin. Deep Ferg.

It might be Kevin. This is a great question. Great question. And for me, when I get an under salad salad, I'm so sad. I'm sorry. It's under salad salad. Under salad salad? When I get an underdressed salad, I am very sad.

I need it to be completely dressed. So I would almost risk, like I know what you're saying is like lettuce sitting in balsamic like water or whatever. That's gross. Fucking nasty. I would rather it almost be overdressed than underdressed. That's that's that's one thing.

That's that's a tough call. That's a tough call for me. I don't know. So like so like we're saying like specific, we never get the questions because we're precisely like the question is something that you need to think needs to be in a very precise ratio to be good. If you had, yeah, if you had overdressed salad though and a napkin, you could fix the problem.

Wow. There we go. Great point. No napkin. You're fucked. You're fucked. All right. I made a bad choice.

Yeah. Just think about it. I think you can go too heavy to I think you can go too heavy on the parmesan. I think it's harder to go too heavy on the pepper. I love pepper, but I think like it like you don't want too too much parmesan. Although like that's less of a precise ratio. That's less of a of like an absolute sweet spot, which is I feel like there's like a bell curve of where you want to try to get your salad dressing.

Right. You want to get it right in that sweet spot. Yeah. Another one is sour cream. Because I'll be mad at sour cream. Yeah, sure. If I got it, if I got a Chipotle burrito and the sour cream is like under, I'll be like, what the fuck?

There's no sour cream in this. And then if it's over, I'm like, ugh, it's just sour, like I'm biting into sour cream, like a sour cream wrap. And I like that's, yeah, it's, it's, it's, so I guess, but that's kind of what they're asking for is that kind of perfect equation, right? Like the like cream cheese on bagels. You don't want way too much of it. I think ketchup and mustard though.

Ketchup and mustard on a hot dog is pretty crucial. I feel like it's like, I don't know why, but ketchup is cold and mustard is hot. And they balance each other out, even though they're both room temperature, but you know what I mean? Like it's a cool, like ketchup is cooling, mustard is a heating thing. And I feel like if you have one or the other, your hot dog's going to be too hot or too cold flavor wise. And so I feel like that's a good,

you need a good balance unless you're in Chicago, in which case don't ask for ketchup. I'll run you out. Yeah. You got to have that weird fucking relish on. Yeah. And a sport pepper for some reason. You know what, fuck Chicago too.

But, but I think Emma's currently there. But for me, the ketchup and mustard thing, like on a burger, and why, because I'm thinking of this, I'm thinking the spicy chicken sandwich at Wendy's. And I'm thinking like, I need some of that tomato and lettuce and mayo on there. Like if that equation does off, I'm really sad about it. And that happens quite a bit, sadly, is that, you know, if you get a bad one, there's they forget a tomato or whatever. But I don't know, this is a great question.

I feel like I'm not nailing it as much as I want to. But I know that this is a thing I think about all the time of like saving like last bites and dipping it a certain way. Like it's always in my head. So I mean, I think everyone has their equation here, but butter at a movie theater. And, and I think obviously this is why is your popcorn skeptic, which is an issue. But if you liked popcorn, I know it's insane that he doesn't like popcorn, but

I got, I got a big bowl of popcorn when I saw knives out, a glass onion mystery or whatever the fuck. But no, a glass onion and knives out mystery. And what'd you think? Did not care for the film. Did not like the movie. But this is, you know, this will be a little dated by this time. Oh hell yeah.

Anyway, I got popcorn then. I buddy generally get nachos. You're right. But you got to, you got to, you got to, for me, you got to hit that butter equation to you and get it below. And if you go too buttery, you fuck it up and you get a tummy ache on top of it. So can I stay real quick on, you're drinking oil at that point. You feel like shit.

What you're making me think of though, Mitch, because you brought up movie snacks and I miss that I usually get nachos. I do love, I do love the movie nachos. I do love that cheddar sauce. Anytime you're doing any sort of chip and dip, you want the right amount of dip per chip and you don't want to like over-dip an individual chip. And you also don't want to be left with dry guys by the end because you don't have any salsa or queso or guacamole left.

Here's the thing, when you're conserving dip so much, you're at the end. You got too much dip left with a few chips. That's the fucking worst. It's the worst. I could have had more dip on each of these chips. Oh yeah. It's stressful, honestly. That regret.

Yeah. It hurts. Man, we are losers. Anyways, I think that's it. I think that covers it all. No, we're cool. We're good. Let us know what's your choice of something that has to be in the very

precise ratio to be good. Hashtag goldowratio. And if you have a question or comment about the world of cheddar sauce, send me an email. It's at doboyspodcast.com. Thank you, Mitch. Or leave us a voicemail at 830godo, like Kevin did. That's 830-463-6844.

To get the Doughboys double or weekly bonus episode, you can join the Golden or Platinum Play Club at patreon.com slash Doughboys. Allie Ward. Thank you. Thank you so much for giving us so much of your time. Joining us on the podcast here in the year of our lord 2023, sharing your passion for sushi stop and your experience working at the affiliated restaurant.

A delight to have you. Please come back on the show anytime. Anytime. Thank you for paying for my buttons. I appreciate it so much. I think you're going to, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right?

Yeah. Right? Our screens all go off. I got four coaks. I got four coaks. We can deduct a couple. But it was an absolute honor, a pleasure. I eat all the time.

So whenever you need me, just holler. Love it. Allie, do you have anything you would like to plug? I'll say allergies. If you like podcasts, science podcasts that involve a lot of information about lizard dicks and stuff, go straight to allergies. We talk about it all with experts and such. So yeah, holler on over there.

That's great. That's what I'd say. Wow. Check it out. Check it out. Yeah. And that'll do it for this episode of Doughboys. Until next time, for The Spoonman, Mike Mitchell, I'm Nick Weiger.

Happy eating. See ya. Beep, beep. Next week on Doughboys Double, let's get into the cookie draft. So here's how this will work, Nangle. We each go around and we are going to just pick a cookie. And that'll be part of our cookie roster. Our sleeve of cookies, our arsenal of various pastries on this hypothetical tray.

Mitch, do you have an idea of how many roster spots we should have for cookies? I guess maybe five with one on the bench. All right, great. So here, so we will, we'll go around snake style. So, you know, they're in back again. And the people on the end will have. That sounds like hobbit style. It is hobbit style.

Oh, Mike's love's going snake style. We don't have to do snake style. Who is the Moomer from God of War? That's a real Moomer move. Should I say it right? No, you said it funnier. It was good. Moomer.

Moomer, sorry. Hear the entire episode over at patreon.com slash Doughboys. Sources for the intro are in the episode description. That was a hate gun podcast.