DRINNIES - Hallo, hier ist der Oliver

Episode Date: July 8, 2024

Chris ist neuerdings Bewährungshelfer der Insekten, während Giulia ihren persönlichen Glücksrad-Moment im Museum hatte. Außerdem geht es um einen 2000€-Staubsauger und die Frage, ob man die Schlüsselkarte im Hotel sicherheitshalber immer auf dem Zimmer liegen lassen sollte. Gute Reise!Besuche Giulia und Chris auf Instagram: @giuliabeckerdasoriginal und @chris.sommerHier findest du alle Infos und Rabatte unserer Werbepartner: linktr.ee/drinnies Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Drenys, the podcast from the comfort zone. Hey Chris? Yes, what's up? Did you crash today? No. Good. I gave you a crash ban. You're not allowed to crash in the apartment anymore.

I love it when people forbid me things. You have a crash ban in the first place because it would mean that if you crash, I would have to hurry to you, which I no longer do, because I have to run to you. I have a crash ban in the first place because it would mean that if you crash, I would have to hurry to you, which I no longer do, because I have to run to you. I have a crash ban in the first place because it would mean that if you crash, I would have to hurry to you, which I no longer do, because I have to run to you. I love it when people forbid me things. You have a crash ban in the first place because it would mean that if you crash, I would have to hurry to you, which I no longer do, because I have to run to you. I love it when people forbid me things. You have a crash ban in the first place because it would mean that if you crash, I would have to hurry to you, which I no longer do, because I have to run to you.

I love it when people forbid me things. You have of all have a fall ban, because it would mean that if you fall, I would have to hurry up to you, which I no longer do, I never go anywhere. And that's why you have a fall ban from me. I fell once and I stumble back and forth, but I've never been to the hospital, in contrast to you. That's true. I was in the hospital once and that was at my birth

and then I said, bye, you'll see me again when my feet come in first, or out,, see you again when my feet come in first. Or out. Or... What? When your feet come in first? I don't know. There's a saying that goes like this. Yes, I was really very often in the hospital. I know you very well. I know what the ups and downs are. I've spent so much time in the hospital. Even as a child.

Crazy, right? In this sense, we hope you're doing well. And if not, it's okay. Even if you're in the hospital, it's okay. Even if you're not in the hospital, even? In that sense, we hope you're doing well. And if not, it's okay. Even if you're in the hospital, it's okay. Even if you're not in the hospital, even if you're knocked down, it's okay. Sometimes I get messages from people who write, Drini, the podcast has made me, I don't know,

get sick from my mandelope. Get sick. Where I think, isn't there anything better? We got a lot of messages from people who said Beglitten. Beglitten. Wo ich auch denke, gibt's da nicht irgendwas Besseres? Hey, wir haben nicht wenige Nachrichten bekommen von Leuten, die gesagt haben, sie haben unseren Podcast während der Geburt gehört. Ja. Während des Geburtsvorganges im Kreißsaal wurde Drehlings angeschlossen, weil wir haben wohl nachgewiesener Weise einen entspannenden Effekt auf Menschen.

Also wir sind quasi so was wie eine PDA, eine akustische PDA. Schön ins Rückenmark rein, unsere Stimmen gleiten durchs Rückenmark. and we're like a PDA, an acoustic PDA. Nice, into the back of the neck, our voices are sliding through the back of the neck. A short PDA, explain, get me out, get us all on board, Julia. Oh, God. PDA, explain, um, local... What does it do, what's it for? You get it injected into the back of the neck and then you get a little dazed,

it doesn't hurt that much at birth, but you generally feel less and therefore you don't feel the pain. It's about pain. You wanted to say the podcast that's being recorded here and that's being heard on the other side, will free people from pain. I wouldn't go that far. But my goal is, and I think it's a smart goal,

which you're pursuing, not to cause more pain to people. That's really... The bar is low, that's my suggestion, that people don't have it harder with us than without us. Speaking of pain, you can get rid of things if you don't stumble or fall. Yes.

And I like to get animals out of the way, and I'm not a huge animal lover or animal lover, but I can get along well with the animal world. My credo is, I'll get him out of the way and you'll get me out of the way. The Romans do their thing, we do ours. Right. And sometimes there's the case that you can't get out of the way. For example, if a so-called bumblebee is now getting married in the apartment. The so-called bumblebee. Do you want to explain what a brumsel is? Everything that is searching and twitching

is a brumsel for me. But it has to be a real Oschi, right? Or is it just a brumsel? Yes, then it's a brumsel. But I would help everyone. By preparing a way out for them. And it's difficult to open the window sometimes, because they don't fly out,

they still can't find a way out. I have to say, they're really stupid. And, well... No, sorry. They're right next to the window, because they won't fly out. They still can't find a way out. I have to say, they're really stupid. And, well... No, sorry. They're right at the window, and then you open the window, and they have a huge luxury of flying out, and they can't do it. They're always flying back to the window.

Yes. In our case, it was called a music studio. You don't necessarily have to be cognitively, mathematically, in your imagination, the smartest, but you need emotional intelligence. What was it called? Emotional intelligence? I was wondering, that's an artistic term that you shake out of your chest to not say, you study music

because you don't have anything on it, for example. But you see, all the flying and the jingling would have had to go to music school. They would have learned emotional intelligence and managed to fly out of a window. And maybe play saxophone. and flicking, they would have had to go to music school. They would have learned emotional intelligence and would have managed to fly out of the window. And maybe play saxophone with it. Sure. I think you can make a comparison

that works at the end of the day. And my goal is not to get to the flying clasps or to these things where you can still give it a current. The britzler. Yes, exactly. Where you can still give it electricity. The britzler. Yes, exactly. Where you can still give 9 volts to the front of the bullet. It looks like a spring ball hammer. Yes, exactly. The electric spring ball hammer.

Right. I've seen and ordered something and I'm already working on it. Where you can catch the insects and the so-called bristles. There's a plastic hole, you hold it up and then you push it down, like you would normally do with a glass and a cardboard. With a cardboard plate or a piece of cardboard underneath. That's how it's shaped with a nice handle, ergonomically. So that it's comfortable on the bristle side, in the sense of survival, and on my side, that I have something ergonomically in my hand.

Then I push the plastic thing under and promote the crumbs out. And that's my end of the week. Yes. This is not a fly clutch, but actually a fly catcher to prepare the mit insects in this world. Are you the fly catcher from Cologne? No, I would say I'm something like a training assistant. I help them back to freedom when they leave the jail,

to find a connection again, to feel lifted again. And I would sometimes smuggle a knife in the cake for the colleague who is still in it. Or a cell phone. Do you think the brums have a little mini footrest on one of the eight legs or how many they have? The legs have a wing of two. Do you think the And then I come back. I have to say, the product sounds like a classic lion's den.

Like a startup thing, which Ralf Dümel then produces in China for 0.7 cents a piece. And then sold on a net pallet. Exactly, then two developers come, who pitch their product. Yes, we had a problem, we had a garden house and the grandpa liked to grill there. Yes, an emotional story.

Exactly, he had a pretzel on, and then the pretzels came. My grandpa loves to play there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, an emotional story. Exactly, he had a pretzel, and then the pretzels came. My grandpa loves flying over everything. And then little Jan Niklas ran past, my nephew, and he said, grandpa, what are you doing there? I'm killing the insects here. And then Jan Niklas said, not like that, grandpa. And then Jan Niklas started crying. Exactly, he cried and then

cut a prototype in the garden house, which his father now tried to produce for a million dollars. And then Ralph Dümel asks, what are the production costs per piece? Yes, we sell it for 9 euros and the production costs are 8.20 euros because we produce it sustainably in Germany, locally, from real trained carpenters. And then Ralph Dümel says, no, no, no, 8.20 euros in Germany, locally, from real trained carpenters. And then Ralph Duell says, no, no, no, 8,20 euros in production,

we can get that cheaper, that costs 9 cents in China. And then it ends with me, and I can profile myself as a friend of the animals with it. Right, and Ralph Duell managed to write in the contract that the complete rights to the product will be transferred to him after half a year, without the founders noticing it, because they are just normal consumers who did it in their garden house

and didn't notice what they fell into. But that's how it is. In the end, we all have something of it. Especially the rattle. But I have to say, my life is not just colorful, it's not just great, I don't just help the bum out on the way. There are also difficult things, and I want to address that as part of this week's Out. And I can say that it's also an emotional start for you,

because you were also involved in it. Okay. We ordered a cabinet, a furniture, for files where orders can go in and everything else, where you say, now I have to clean up, and instead of laying laying on the floor, just throw everything in the closet and close the door. That's a clean-up.

For example, the insect trap. Right, because you have the feeling, now I've had it for three weeks and two weeks ago I was annoyed and now I'm going to put it away. And of course, it is not thrown away in the next move. Then it is packed back in the box and taken away, although you haven't used it for three years. So we ordered a cabinet,

and you could only order it online. I've already set myself up on it. Then you have to set it up, then it gets tedious. Then you have a afternoon or a day or a day and a night and two days of stress. I had already prepared a cross-section, I had filled up water, I had put cornies for the reinforcement so that we can open this fucking closet.

The Volvo has two doors, so it's really not that big. And what happened? Something I never thought could be exciting. The closet was assembled, packed in a carton. Carton? Delivered. Like, yes, Kolmer Schultegolz, Schultegolz, at Baris Farrar's, we always say, carton. Carton.

I've now managed to incorporate that into my vocabulary. I'm proud of you. I used it once this week in the working context and I was looked at in a weird way, but more than that. You grabbed the vocabulary with the insect catcher and caught it. And the cabinet has arrived in the whole, where I thought, hmm, cool,

then we have to, this half day, this whole day, and the thought, cool, then we have to save ourselves this half day, this whole day and night or two days, the corny can be packed and the water... You can take them again! Exactly! For the next time. They still have TÜV! So, and now you know, a cabinet built together that is delivered like this is an incredible problem, because it was of course also delivered on a pallet.

The person who delivered it was really angry that she had to drive the thing here with a roller. And we were also angry, especially on ourselves, because we hardly managed to carry this built-up cupboard from the bottom up to the apartment in all its glory. I have to say now, the cupboard was really heavy.

We're talking about 80 kilos, which is heavy for me. And they delivered it with a delivery. And I remember from back then, if something was delivered with a delivery, then the things would be carried to the apartment. That wasn't possible in this case, because the person who brought the cabinet was on his own. He couldn't have carried it at all and obviously didn't feel like it,

he just had to cut it to the board and left the pallet right there. He didn't even take the pallet with him. That means we had a huge pallet plus an 80 kg cabinet that we would have had to carry up the stairs. We had to carry it up. Now it turned out that after we had removed the four layers of cardboard that were wrapped around it, under sweat and tears, because it was super hard to cut something,

can you tell us what the hatchet of the closet is? It's super heavy, but also super slippery. It's matte lacquered, but really well lacquered, so you don't have any attack area. It also has rounded corners. And I then tilted it like that, and then I almost broke it, for starters. And I don't know how long we took until the cabinet was up,

I'd say about one and a half hours, realistically estimated. I almost, I think I even cried at one point. Yes. Because I just couldn't, I could really only go one step at a time. And I had to stop because it was so heavy and so bad in my hands. And it always slipped off my hands.

Terrible. Then two steps up, then put it back down because it's not possible anymore. In this stairwell, I felt like a lump that couldn't be found anymore. I didn't see any way out. But we finally made it. But I have to say that you have feeling, wow, it's jackpot,

the cabinet is assembled. And then, shit, that's absolute hell, the cabinet is assembled. That was incredible. That's an afterman of feelings. So my week out, when the furniture is already assembled, where I didn't know it existed, and that it could get me out of the way.

Then we had nice, broken arms, red and everything, and we were fixed and ready. The closet is scratched, the wall is broken. The stairs are also scratched. The one person who came up to us said, good luck. Yes, there are people who wish good luck with something like that. Just go by, let me suffer here.

I don't want to... I don't want to do that. I think it's weird to go by without commenting. You couldn't ignore it, unfortunately. I just hope we weren't watched by more people. I hope we weren't photographed. Oh my god, that must have looked so messy. But that's how we went to Berlin with a good mood for the podcast prize, because that was also this week.

I would like to work with you on that now. Yes, let's go back to the retrospective. Yes, we were, thankfully, nominated in a public category. So the Drinnies who are listening now have voted for us and we have already thanked each other nicely and it can be thanked a second time. Thank you very much for voting. Spoiler, unfortunately it didn't work. But you have to say, the competition was not unenlightening. They were far above in numbers. I think it's a miracle that we were, because we're really under their little light.

And I think that's just so crazy, because it just shows that this community is just crazy, even though there aren't as many as the others, they're mega active, and that's really cool. Unfortunately, we couldn't get through to the success comedian Oliver Pocher. That's a shame. I think it's a shame that we live in a world where Oliver Pocher wins a podcast prize. But that's life. Life is what it is. We have to take it. We took it with dignity. We went straight away. But the event was a bit strange. I don't want to say strange. I don't want to spoil it. I actually thought it was okay. I want to start with something positive, you should always do that,

to strengthen your positive. There were potato chips. There were potato chips, they were mouth-watering, they were in small portions, you could take them, you could snack on them. And something positive that remained,

there were fridge with drinks, non-alcoholic and alcoholic drinks, where you could just take things out. There was also a normal bar, but there were also these fridge, you could just go there without taking anything, get something, you didn't have to chat with anyone, you didn't have to order anything, you didn't have to wait. You could just go out.

That was really good. I like that. Like when you have a craft and you have put a cork on it yourself. Yes. And a glass of water. Yes. In principle, that's how I felt. And something strange was added to me,

actually much more you. There was also a livestream where someone walked around, a moderator who was in charge of the livestream. And he then addressed you. And then I have to say, it was a mistake of ours. Caro and Miguel from Too Many Tabs were there too. And we stood around for a relatively long time. And then there were bar hokkas where we said,

now we sit down. Now we sit down. There's actually nothing comfortable. And that was the mistake. We were stationary. We were no longer mobile. You can't here, there's nothing comfortable. And that was the mistake. We were stationary. We weren't mobile anymore. You can't get out. You can't stand on one platform and make the first step and then move away quickly.

We were stationary. We were approached several times by this live stream. And there it was said, we won't be nominated because we shouldn't be nominated because we already won. And that irritated me. You said, no, we're nominated. That led to embarrassing touch on the other side. And I asked myself, wait a minute,

did something get out internally? Can we put on the control of F. Rezo and Jan Böhmermann? I really have to say, I don't always check everything immediately. And the moment he said, he asked me, how does it feel for you that you're not allowed to be nominated anymore because you've been nominated too often, I didn't really get what he meant.

And at first I thought, he's messing with us, that's a joke. Then I looked for a long time, and then I said, we're nominated. And it was so strange. The question is, are there people behind the scenes who didn't want to choose certain podcasts? We were chosen by the audience, so it's hard to put in a veto.

But I want to say something about Oliver Pocher. Yes? I know from my private life, namely me, there's no private life for me, that he calls himself Oliver. He sent me a voice message. It was just before I had called him in the afternoon.

Oh, Chris, you know what? I overdid it. He called me to call him. He sent me a voice message and said I should call him. It's no joke. I once made videos on Instagram where I was bored. How funny. At Ableton I filmed Boris Pecker stories and some posts where he said funny things. And I put some hip-hop beats under it and adapted the video.

Bumblebeats by the way and it was so funny. Yes, what I've achieved today anyway with KI, you can just let the Witt Dummel do it in a Chinese factory. You don't have to let the hand scream anymore, ergonomically. But it also broke down from that point, this whole thing with Boris Becker and the Beats, as Oliver Porrer, the Oliver, hello, here's Oliver. That's how the Spanish language started, jumped on it and said, should he call him?

No, he wants to call me, because he doesn't give his... I immediately got goose bumps because it's so disgusting. I didn't do it, and that's how I knew this thing is buried. Bye, goodbye. Rip, Bobba the Beats. I wish Boris Becker all the best and Oliver Pocher not necessarily. It was an evening of mixed feelings, you have to say. But the biggest start, I have to briefly include,

was actually for me, I was completely out of my house when of my mind. The vacuum cleaner representative of Hüller. But not the one from the jungle. You suddenly called him the Hüller representative. In my head, I thought, I only know one, and that was the one in the jungle with the glasses. No, I didn't mean that. The well-known Hüller representative of the Navrot brothers. They are two brothers who are in a very famous NDR documentary

called Under the Dustbusters. Oh, that's so funny. You'll find it on YouTube. I'm sure many have seen it. And they're real successful people. I don't know why he was there. Maybe he has a Hühler podcast, a Dustbusters podcast. I think he really has a podcast,

because they're successful coaching people. And this vacuum cleaner thing is multi-level marketing. You could say it has nothing to do with the pyramid building in Cairo or with snowballs being thrown. I have to be very careful here legally. It's a gray zone. Because Hüller is a top company, they make top vacuum cleaners, they cost 2,000 euros.

I would also be interested in how much the production price is. In any case, an interesting documentary with an interesting protagonist who always parks his Porsche SUV in two parking lots. It's shown in the documentary because he's afraid of the doors of other cars. He stands in the middle of two parking lots with a white Porsche SUV.

Do you also sometimes wonder how civilization can continue if people like that keep multiplying and then, through these coaching processes, they keep growing? It's so common that more and more people are infected by something and we have so many coaches. We have a super offer of coaches, but too few people who need to be coached, because everyone is already a coach.

Many people ask themselves what the's the meaning of life? Why are we there? There are people who then go in the religious direction, look up to the sky. Others say, bang, our purpose is to plant ourselves according to the Darwinist role model and to ensure the survival of species. And that's exactly how it is with these coaching people.

But I also like, as Kräuter mentioned, he also buys a pair of shoes when the shoe seller just sells them awesome. Quote. Then the shoes probably don't even have to fit properly. That reminds me of evolutionary philosophy, what you just said. And that's what the question is about. It's a very basic question and evolutionary philosophy is also controversial. It's not entirely proven. But what I philosophy is also controversial, it's not entirely justified.

But what I wanted to say is, it's always the question, why do we humans want to engage in such social structures and lead such complicated relationships in order to reproduce ourselves if we could simply share ourselves like bacteria? Do you know what I mean?

And that's what I'm also asking about these coaches. For me, this coaching concept, this coaching system, is for me, bacteria that share. Wait a minute, we have to get this straight. Coaching that sets itself on a scale for self-purpose and says, you have to subscribe to the Pyramid System, the first level costs 1000 euros, but if you want to be successful,

you have to book the next seminar, that costs 4000 euros, and then the seminar three, that costs 16000 euros, etc. We're not talking about Julian Nagelsmann. No, no. We're talking about these coaches who then call up fantasy prices, who actually created their own fantasy industry. They're there for self-purpose only. So they train people to be coaches, who then become coaches again. But I don't even know what they're coaching.

To be in the coach. To be in the geil. You say bacteria, and that's the problem. We have to be like amoebas on an event. And not stationary on a bar. You have to move like an amoeba. By the way, that was my idea for a carnival costume with the big spandex on all foursandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex with a big spandex

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with a big spandex with a big spand Or who's the current Richard Gere? Austin Butler maybe? Comes and says... Timothy Chalamet. Push a number over it or something, so you can slowly drive away with the electric motor from your bar-hooker high seat. Backwards. I drive backwards, I fly in front of Timothy Chalamet because he's so snobby. Yes, exactly. Because you didn't understand him.

Because I didn't understand him. I said, will you come to my room, but I understood, please go home. Please go home with your Barhawker. The move chest in Bossa Nova at the hotel lobby was too loud and Timothy Chollamay too quiet, so you drove out backwards. You mean for network events that you can sit on a Barhawker, but... That would have saved our asses on this event, because when this guy came with his livestream Instagram

and held the thing in his face, that would have saved us if we could have pushed away with a quick but strong arm movement from the table and then rolled through the hall like that. Then we would have been at the other end very quickly. He wouldn't have followed us. I have to share something else, and I want to gather all the Trinnis under these USB microphones,

or rather on the Bluetooth speakers or in-ears, to share something that could change many lives. I have to say that very boldly. Okay. It's about an introvert tip, and the topic, not hotel lobby, but hotel room, is now being addressed and treated. And I play the coach for that.

Introvert tip. Introvert tip. We were in Berlin at this podcast prize and I made a mistake. I made the same mistake as in New York. I found out now. Because in New York, my room card didn't work anymore. Then I didn't come like in New York. I found out now, because in New York, my room card didn't work anymore. Then I didn't come to our room anymore.

And then, what should I do? Then I went to the reception and said, that's not works here. That's not works. And then he said something, yeah yeah. And then I didn't understand it. Not because of bossa nova, but just, acoustically, there was too much going on.

It wasn't Timmy Fischler at the reception either, it was just too much going on and me too un-concentrated. And then I just said, yes, yes, yes, thumbs up. Yes, yes, yes, awesome. Amazing, and then- A light jacket will do. Yes, super. And then he gave me a card,

somehow pulled it through, gave it to me, and then I went up and it worked. And now I had the same problem again. The hotel card suddenly didn't work anymore. And I always thought it was about if you're there for a longer time, and then on a weekday all cards are made new. That's not true. The person explained to me,

or asked me in return, if I might have worn the card in the same pocket. Ah! And I said yes. And she said it's because of the magnetic field. And so, could it be that the card, I'll say it in a country-like jargon, will be discharged? So, and that's the problem.

And I think that was explained to me in New York City, where I just said, yes, yes, amazing, awesome, super, hey. Or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, or, I just went, yes, yes, amazing, awesome, super, hey. Or, or, luck, booby, hey. New York City, hey. Manhattan. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha. Stop it, that's the worst.

That's really the worst. What? Are you laughing about my mother's dialect? No, I laugh about your English as well as Swiss. That's really the worst. So I think Swiss German is great, I just about your English in Swiss. That's the worst. I think Swiss German is great. I'm not saying anything against Swiss German. But really hardcore Swiss in English is funny.

I'm putting you in a humorous context. In a context that should make you laugh. You allowed me a little jokus. A jokus that will allowed to laugh. What if we allow a little jokus again? Yes, a jokus that will make you laugh hopefully. And invites you to go on this journey with me. You're talking so much shit. What else is there to do in a podcast? You have to talk shit.

Oh my God, I can't anymore. In any case, the tip is to keep your pants and pockets completely separate. So never keep your cell phone in one one pocket with the hotel's room card. There could be a so-called de-laden. You can be sure that it won't happen by not taking the room card out of the room. You always leave it in the room so it doesn't get de-laden.

Or take the room card out, but put the phone between the door and the door frame so the door doesn't close properly. You could do that too. That's win-win-win. That's how you can get things out of the way. Chris, what would the world be without your introvert tips? I didn't know that.

That's nice. This praise goes down like butter. Oil? Is it oil? I think it's oil. But butter can also be oil if you let it melt, right? By the way, Kuhl-Mäckle hasn't contacted me yet. I said, you last time pulled over herbs butter from the supermarket and I said, you have to convince someone with a pallet of herb butter from the supermarket,

the pallet is not there yet. That's sad, but also nice, because I don't want to carry this pallet up the stairs, to be honest. I think herb butter has even less grip than this cabinet and. And we would have problems to carry a whole pallet. Berlin has a lot to offer. I have to say, I'm happy when I'm gone again. And we were not only in a hotel, not only at the Podcast Prize, but also in the museum, in the Humboldt Forum.

And you said there are a lot of great things to see. That's right. It's an interesting thing. Honestly, let's stay with the truth, Chris. and you said there are a lot of great things to see. That's true. It's an interesting thing. Honestly, let's stay with the truth, Chris. I didn't say there are a lot of great things to see. I said, that's from the hotel. I'm walking for only two minutes. Let's just go there.

I don't feel like going there. That's right. That's how it was. That's how the real story was. And we were lucky that there was actually an exhibition that was very interesting, called Berlin Global. And that was such an interactive, I always think that's cool, interactive. To be part of the exhibition itself, to be part of the exhibition. You got a bracelet and then you had to decide for questions, you had to decide for the answers.

And depending on which answer you chose, you had to go through another door. And then there was a signal that was heard when you walked through it with your arm. And in the end you should compare what the other people decided for themselves. And then there were questions like, I'm for an open society, I'm for a safe society. Something like that.

And then you have to decide. And so, yes, okay. Then you get nailed down. Like in Hard, but Fair or like in Maybrit, Elna or Markus Anstarr. You get kicked in the ass with the stilettos. In the wheelchairs. Of course, only rhetorically. I was a little scared, because these armwrestlers had an electronic signal

that maybe that would end up in your hotel card again. Of course. I've already seen the panic in your eyes when you saw it in your pocket. Anyway, it was about Berlin in relation to how Berlin is related to the rest of the world and how the rest of the world has influence on Berlin. This relationship with each other, the society within Berlin and so on. And every station had a part to take part in.

I think that's great, I don't fall asleep there, I can still take part in it, I become part of the story. And there was a turntable in one room. It was a big, heavy, almost marble-like table that you could turn. And graphics were projected on it. You could turn a wheel on the table and then the wheel would be fixed The

the the over this decade or this year, about important events. Yes, I saw that. I can tell you, I hid myself in that situation. And you can re-examine it here, from your perspective. Because I saw you standing in this huge room between these huge LED screens. And I read propaganda election posters back there,

where it's about a revolution. And I was shielded, and you were standinged, and I saw a person approaching you. And I thought, I'm going to get a little more interested in this poster. Yes, but I have to say, I'm a little lucky mouse. I've always been. I used to watch a lot with my grandpa. We ate air chocolate together. That was always a cool tradition. And a wooden insect catcher. Oh no, it was something else. And I cried. No, but I always wanted to...

I just like to turn on wheels. And you rarely get the opportunity to turn on a wheel. I have to say that now. When was the last time you turned on a wheel? When Oli Pocher sent me a voice message. Oh god. Well, anyway, I wanted to turn on this wheel, on this table. It also had a nice hub, it was so smooth, so nice and cold.

I then touched it with both arms, with both hands, and then I wanted to turn it. And then I realized that nothing was happening at all. And then I was like, oh, I was really a little sad. I wanted to turn on the wheel of time, that was the wheel of time. I wanted to turn it, I like to turn on wheels. And then this person who works there got annoyed. And then I'm always like, oh, but it was too late to flee now. She saw that I was interested in shooting the time wheel.

And obviously it was something that wasn't possible alone. You have to do that at least in pairs. That's a symbol, too. It's a message. Unfortunately, my boyfriend was gone at this point. He was in another room. He was hiding in some propaganda posters. Are you talking about me? That's why I was alone at this time.

And the person wanted to help me. And then he explained himself to me nicely and to stand opposite me at the table. And then he turned with me at the table. Or he first showed me how it works. And that was because it didn't work out. to stand opposite me at the table and then turned with me at the table or rather first showed me how it works. And that was not possible on its own. On both sides, one person had to put their hands under the table

and then it was activated. And then the graphics started and then the wheel started to spin. That's awesome! Yes, it was awesome. It was a bit like Super Toy Club, I have to say. I really liked the technical aspect. But that's the way it is in music, in my opinion. Is it? Either there are things behind glass windows that you can't touch, or it's a bit like Super Toy Club.

But then, if I have the choice, then please, where I can shoot something. Yes, definitely. And where I can put a Lego set and a bicycle in a shopping cart and run out. In any case, I then worked with the person who worked there. She was very nice to me. By the way, I have to say, all the people who worked there were so nice. They always say about Berliners, they are always so unfriendly and so.

The people from the cash register to the top, all the people who worked there were so nice to us. Yes, I was a bit overwhelmed, also with the competence. I was used to my, also with the competence. I was used to my old shop museum, that people are standing there, they are not interested in you, they actually knock off when you enter the room. They listen to podcasts in some chambers upstairs.

Quite the opposite, they came to you, helped you, where it was almost too much for me. Yes, I was already very engaged, but I really found it very surprisingly nice. And the person was also very nice and then asked directly, which era would you like? And I was totally overwhelmed, I had to somehow pretend that I somehow have an idea of what era is particularly interesting here. Then I said, here, 1918, very interesting, matrosian uprising, here certainly Freikorps,

that was certainly Karl Liebknecht, got out of parliament, I don't know. Out of the I said it in 1918 and then it started. We turned on the wheel together, it was a nice moment of unity, how we both together in partnerly work, this wheel turned, it felt like a real job. We are now working on the story to work on a partnership, this wheel-shooting felt like a real job. We're working on the story, to work on it again, to shoot on the wheel of time.

It was a beautiful, amazing moment. And you couldn't shoot it alone? Yes, I couldn't shoot it alone. A bitter, bad message. Anyway, this film started. How long did it last? Two, three minutes, that's how it started. But then also super loudly on two huge screens.

The whole hall heard for which year I decided. It was almost impossible to pass. And when the film was over, I wanted to pull myself out of the affair and say, yes, that was interesting, cool, thank you very much. But the person was so fast and she was so engaged, I said, which year is next? So she was really clenched and she was also firmly convinced that I wanted to see them all. All the films about all epochs, times, all revolutions, all the things that happened in the past, Which year is next? She was really convinced and she was also firmly convinced that I want to see them all.

All the movies about all epochs, times, all revolutions. And you didn't see it. I only heard how it was massive. When you turned the wheel, clack clack clack clack. And then cannon shots through on these screens. You also have a little bit of power feelings, question marks. I would say it would be a lie if I said, I'm having a lot of fun shooting a bike.

But watching the movies, well, there were some interesting things, but some of them weren't. I was very interested. Yeah, you were two rooms away from some pap lakas. Honestly. I went to a basement, because you said there were interesting things.

I thought so! Explanation, because you said there were interesting things. I thought so! Explanation, the basement was only two minutes away. And then I saw from the outside, oh, it's so dark, it's a basement. It looked like a wine cellar. Exactly. There are sometimes in museum situations where I have to perform very strongly. So everything is taken away from, and that was that moment.

There was a very competent person, like in the whole museum, who was standing right at the door and greeted me. The room wasn't that huge in the basement, but there were just old walls to see, and old lines. And what was nice was that it was cool, but it didn't catch me that much. If you want to flee from the heat of Berlin,

just go to the basement in the Humboldt Forum, it's nice and cold. Yes, but I immediately noticed that it wasn't something that interested me so much. But I noticed that after 20 seconds, it doesn't make any sense. Doesn't make any sense? No, it doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense. I was like, wait a second, that's not a kind of thing. Not a kind of thing? The fine hair! That's not a kind of thing. That's quite an original kind of thing. So what I asked myself was, how long do I have to stay in here

before I can get out again? And it doesn't seem impolite. So I spent 10 minutes, 15 minutes. What did you do? I looked at the walls. Cleaning techniques. Did you take a sample or what? No, don't touch it.

You don't do that. I looked, I didn't touch it. You don't do that. I looked at it, I then shrank my hands behind my back and slightly leaned my upper body forward to look very interested. And then I made a clean exit. I said, thank you, have a nice day. While I was still on the wheel of time,

for hours, all the eras, all the decades, I know everything about Berlin's history, you crammed yourself in a cool basement and you chilled your life. And what I liked was the café they had there. A self-service bistro. I don't want to say a canteen, although it was a canteen.

Canteens always have a bad image, when you say, we're being pulled off. But I've had a lot of good experiences with canteens, I have to say. I like that you take a tablet, you line up, it's organized, often, when it's not organized. For example, when it's arranged in a circle. I experience that sometimes in the micro, in Switzerland, where there's the micro restaurant.

And when it's arranged in a circle, then people don't know where to stand, where to stand, can you if you can overtake. Sometimes it takes me minutes, almost hours until I get to my food, because I always get in the line, even though I don't have to. Would you like to tell us about your drinking experience in the canteen at the Humboldt Forum?

No. I want to mention that I warned you when we were standing in front of the bar. We were really, it was hot, we needed a refreshment. And I really wanted a cold iced tea. You know, a really fruity ice cream, something really sweet that you just need in between when you have such an exhausting hot day. And you stood in front of it and you played with the idea of buying a very special kind of coke.

I don't want to call it a brand name. It's a little bit organic and it has no sugar. Sugar-free. Yeah, sure. And I knew how it tasted, because I bought it on purpose a few years ago. I think it was time for bread or something. I didn't order this coke knowingly.

And I drank it and it was disgusting. I have it and it was the most disgusting thing I ever drank. I'm sorry, it was so disgusting. I was standing next to you in the Humboldt Forum, in the canteen, and I said, Chris, if you buy this drink, I want to warn you, I want to tell you, I've already drunk it, and it was the most disgusting thing I ever drank. And what did you do?

You were completely self-confident that you took the drink out of this fucking fridge. You still had it in all its glory. You still had the cronkorken. And you still looked at me so provocatively. No, I didn't. You looked into my eyes like, we'll see if it really tastes that disgusting.

You invented that. No, I didn't invent that. Look, you said earlier, I'm talking about stupid shit here. Now I'm telling you, it's not true that I looked at you provocatively. What's the point of that? You looked at me provocatively. I looked at you normally, like you look at when you open a can of corn.

Yes, and now you'd like to tell us how it tasted, Chris. I'll put it this way. It tasted okay. And I told myself, now a change, something else. I like to drink when I'm a little tired, a little exhausted, because I stood around in the museum for a quarter of an hour, even though I didn't want to be there. Sometimes I need a little bit of a lightening in the form of a coffee drink.

And then I like to grab a coke without sugar. And I grabbed it because I thought, now something else. And coke is from evolution, evolution, comes from the pharmacy. And I'll put it this way. Sometimes it's good to feel both feet on the floor again to come back to life. It's good when you feel that the coke is actually a cough syrup drink, similar drink, that it tastes like that.

That medicine doesn't taste. Right. In the... No, wrong. At that moment it tasted good, because I said, yes, that's how it used to taste before. Today we're on a different point. So the outlook on other cola brands and varieties tasted good to me. Yes, I would like to add that on the side table there was a woman

who juggled two drinks in her hands to the table with the whole food tablet, two drinks in the hands, ran to the table and then her bottle, her glass bottle with iced tea burst on the floor on the headstone and it was loud and noisy and you looked at it with envy because I saw in your eyes

that you wished that it would have been your drink so you could have bought a new drink without having to admit that this coke tastes like shit. No, no, Chris, you can't... You can't deny that. That was exactly the way it was. You envied her that her drink was shattered on the floor

and you wished that her coke, in quotation marks, was shattered on the floor. Unbelievable prejudices that hit me here, with which I am confronted with here, Julia. That's unbelievable. What you see in my eyes, is also a big compliment that you see so much in my normal behavior

and that you take so much into account. I just thought, luckily that didn't happen to me. But honestly, I had to hold the tablet better. No, that can happen. I've already been completely in the breakfast room at breakfast you just have to hold the tablet better. Oh! No, that can happen. I've had breakfast buffet, everything is completely messed up in the breakfast room.

Oh, that's the worst. And then I wanted to clean it up myself. I said, oh, I'm sorry and so on. And then someone came right away and then I asked, can I do that? And then she said, no, you're not allowed to. Yes, yes. I always had to, when something fell down on the people,

the worst thing was that they just came up to me sometimes and said, I broke something back there. And then I went there and there were like ten glasses of sour cucumbers just crushed and everything was lying around and they didn't even do anything to the side with a foot or something. They just left it there and were so unfriendly and then said, here, you have to do that now. And I always had to do that too.. You can't let the customer do that.

I did something really stupid once. When I was often out in the supermarket with my saxophone, I had a hard shell, a flight case, a very hard saxophone case, and it was relatively heavy. And if I wanted to put it on my back, I had to throw it really high. And it was a bit of a stupid habit.

I once caught a vodka stand full of cans. There were like, I'd say five or six bottles on the floor. That was stuck and cracked. Was that Absolut or Gorbatschow? What was it? I don't know how many turns he had. Kaliskaya. Yes, that's also bitter, back a backpack, when you sometimes underestimate the radius with which you sometimes

get into people when you turn around. Even earlier in the bus, I don't know exactly, I think I threw my kid a full can on the head, my Saxon. But I didn't notice it because I had noise cancelling on. And then I turned around and the kid looked at me with big eyes. You know what I would like now?

That I could now turn on the wheel of time in the year when that happened and that I could see on a big screen how that happened back then. In the Humboldt Forum. Well, I'll definitely go on the search now. Maybe I'll find a wheel where I can turn. It was definitely fun in Berlin

and I would say we'll be back next week. Next week is Dreni D Tuesday, just like every Tuesday. And we're looking forward to it. Thank you for listening. See you soon and bye! Bye!